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sharon
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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February 25, 2008, 05:58:40 PM »
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 04:59:48 PM
vms
I can't keep up with you
http://i7.tinypic.com/21b6wbq.jpg
I think Grande posted this - a pic of Ernesto and his domestic violence charge.
Lol, Sharon.
We worked together on Ernesto many moons ago.
At BFN?? (but you weren't vms??)
HI
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Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 05:58:40 PM
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 04:59:48 PM
vms
I can't keep up with you
http://i7.tinypic.com/21b6wbq.jpg
I think Grande posted this - a pic of Ernesto and his domestic violence charge.
Lol, Sharon.
We worked together on Ernesto many moons ago.
At BFN?? (but you weren't vms??)
HI
You got it.
I think we may have been the only two interested in him at the time.
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February 25, 2008, 06:22:51 PM »
GREAT to see you (now that I know
)
And I see that you still have that 'data center' for all your info storage
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February 25, 2008, 06:27:38 PM »
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 06:22:51 PM
GREAT to see you (now that I know
)
And I see that you still have that 'data center' for all your info storage
Great to see you too!
Now, why are we searching Ernesto again?
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February 25, 2008, 06:39:50 PM »
Page 114 Jorans book
Joran visits neighbor Freddy
7A Catiri Freddy Zedan Arambatziz
ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT LILIAN REGINA MONTANJA 39-F
http://www.arubachamber.com/DISKKLEINBEDRIJF31JULI2004.htm
#39-F Montana (Montanja), Noord
Freddy’s house:
7A Catiri (apartment)
Mom's address is: 62 Montana is ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ address in NOORD
WELCO
Catiri 1
NOORD
Tel: (297) 5871916
Fax:
PARADISE RESTAURANT
Catiri 5 A
NOORD
Tel: (297) 5879126
Fax:
5-TH GEAR ART PRODUCTIONS
Catiri 6
ORANJESTAD
Tel: (297) 5871241
Fax: (297) 5871241
Email:
lemminga@setarnet.aw
Freddy is Venezuelan
Ernesto on the left
Here are the
exact charges against Freddy Arambatziz, according to Vinda de Sousa:
Intentionally distributing sexual images of a minor.
Intercourse with an unconscious person.
Sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years.
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Lala'sMom
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February 25, 2008, 07:01:00 PM »
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 06:22:51 PM
GREAT to see you (now that I know
)
And I see that you still have that 'data center' for all your info storage
Great to see you too!
Now, why are we searching Ernesto again?
I have forgotten. LOL
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Lala'sMom
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Quote from: Kermit on February 25, 2008, 06:39:50 PM
Page 114 Jorans book
Joran visits neighbor Freddy
7A Catiri Freddy Zedan Arambatziz
ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT LILIAN REGINA MONTANJA 39-F
http://www.arubachamber.com/DISKKLEINBEDRIJF31JULI2004.htm
#39-F Montana (Montanja), Noord
Freddy’s house:
7A Catiri (apartment)
Mom's address is: 62 Montana is ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ address in NOORD
WELCO
Catiri 1
NOORD
Tel: (297) 5871916
Fax:
PARADISE RESTAURANT
Catiri 5 A
NOORD
Tel: (297) 5879126
Fax:
5-TH GEAR ART PRODUCTIONS
Catiri 6
ORANJESTAD
Tel: (297) 5871241
Fax: (297) 5871241
Email:
lemminga@setarnet.aw
Freddy is Venezuelan
Ernesto on the left
Here are the
exact charges against Freddy Arambatziz, according to Vinda de Sousa:
Intentionally distributing sexual images of a minor.
Intercourse with an unconscious person.
Sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years.
That is what confuses me about all this. Freddy was obviously being questioned concerning Natalee very early in all this. From what we can tell he was the person arrested right after Steve Croes and yet, we never heard anything about him until we got a glimpse at those van conversations between Joran and K2. Since then, he's been the mystery man, mostly because we didn't know he was on the radar early. The only thing left is to establish that Natalee met Freddy earlier in her vacation...if that is done...then we most likely have found our 5th suspect.
I wonder why Freddy would have Joran shaking in his boots? What is the connection that Freddy has that could be that powerful? The only thing I can think of would be drugs and money laundering and maybe even weapons smuggling of some type.
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February 25, 2008, 07:51:11 PM »
FIN ... Here is a good link for Aruba Maps
http://www.fallingrain.com/world/AA/0/Noord.html
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February 25, 2008, 07:52:28 PM »
Caps
….Which is the father’s name please?
FREDDY ZEDAN ARAMBATZIS…is it ZEDAN…..TIA
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February 25, 2008, 08:29:31 PM »
June 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm
Checkme…check this…and please recheck:
Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy
guy
in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Can’t deny it. It’s on tape. Everybody in the C@$ino knows the group of teens, they have been drinking in there for free the whole week.
After a couple of days girl meets another
boy
in the same C@$ino. Goes out with him. This makes first
guy
really mad. So mad he confronts second
boy
.
First
guy
never denies the
affair
. He knows they know he was with her. However, he has an airtight alibi. Some friends say they were at home with him. Until the morning.
How can this ever be solved?
Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The 5th suspect. Does anyone remember what I said?
Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Who said the alibi played for the Van Der Sloot’s? The 5th suspect is waltzing away.
Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Was I the one who was speculative?
My story was not about the boys.
Don’t dismiss if you can’t remember. Are you asking for a refresher?
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sharon
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February 25, 2008, 08:30:31 PM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 25, 2008, 07:01:00 PM
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 06:27:38 PM
Great to see you too!
Now, why are we searching Ernesto again?
I have forgotten. LOL
I was going to say -- I don't know why we're searching him again -- but all it takes for me to spring into action is the mere mention of his name
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MumInOhio
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February 25, 2008, 08:32:19 PM »
For Lala’s
…Melody and scuba who is starting to sound like Simian!!!! Not sure how the posts got out of order...I don't think I did it...
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/09/natalee_hollowa_4.html
good morning all
if it's true that freddy will be leaving aruba then good for him!!!
his dad has been dieing in venezuela and because of all this he couldn't go and visit him, put yourself in his shoes ... so, heartfully : good for him
Posted by: Melody | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:23 AM
BTW-Freddy had an ironclad alibi for the night in question-May 30-there was a big family event and he was with his family all night. Many Witnesses.
Posted by: scubajap | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:47 AM
Melody-check your mail
Posted by: scubajap | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:54 AM
Hmmmm. Then why on earth was he called into question? That makes no sense when many saw him partying with his family. He could not have any connection. Why would they do that?
Posted by: FloridaPatty | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:54 AM
Sorry-May 29 to 30. He was not with the others the night Natalee disappeared.
Posted by: scubajap | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:55 AM
BTW-Freddy had an ironclad alibi for the night in question-May 30-there was a big family event and he was with his family all night. Many Witnesses.
Posted by: scubajap | Sep 3, 2005 11:47:20 AM
I thought he was supposed to have spent the night at Joran's apartment.
Posted by: DennisAOK | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 12:32 PM
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Lala'sMom
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Reply #2672 on:
February 25, 2008, 08:37:42 PM »
Quote from: COLOMBO on February 25, 2008, 08:29:31 PM
June 22nd, 2005 at 5:38 pm
Checkme…check this…and please recheck:
Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy
guy
in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Can’t deny it. It’s on tape. Everybody in the C@$ino knows the group of teens, they have been drinking in there for free the whole week.
After a couple of days girl meets another
boy
in the same C@$ino. Goes out with him. This makes first
guy
really mad. So mad he confronts second
boy
.
First
guy
never denies the
affair
. He knows they know he was with her. However, he has an airtight alibi. Some friends say they were at home with him. Until the morning.
How can this ever be solved?
Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The 5th suspect. Does anyone remember what I said?
Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Who said the alibi played for the Van Der Sloot’s? The 5th suspect is waltzing away.
Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
Was I the one who was speculative?
My story was not about the boys.
Don’t dismiss if you can’t remember. Are you asking for a refresher?
So who is this cool and crazy guy? Give us a name!
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MumInOhio
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February 25, 2008, 08:38:46 PM »
Quote from: sharon on February 25, 2008, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 25, 2008, 07:01:00 PM
Quote from: vms on February 25, 2008, 06:27:38 PM
Great to see you too!
Now, why are we searching Ernesto again?
I have forgotten. LOL
I was going to say -- I don't know why we're searching him again -- but all it takes for me to spring into action is the mere mention of his name
LOL...It's because of Freddy!!!! Who I think is #5....
Now if COLUMBO can give me proof otherwise I will rethink it!
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Lala'sMom
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February 25, 2008, 08:41:57 PM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 25, 2008, 08:32:19 PM
For Lala’s
…Melody and scuba who is starting to sound like Simian!!!! Not sure how the posts got out of order...I don't think I did it...
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/09/natalee_hollowa_4.html
good morning all
if it's true that freddy will be leaving aruba then good for him!!!
his dad has been dieing in venezuela and because of all this he couldn't go and visit him, put yourself in his shoes ... so, heartfully : good for him
Posted by: Melody | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:23 AM
BTW-Freddy had an ironclad alibi for the night in question-May 30-there was a big family event and he was with his family all night. Many Witnesses.
Posted by: scubajap | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:47 AM
Melody-check your mail
Posted by: scubajap | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:54 AM
Hmmmm. Then why on earth was he called into question? That makes no sense when many saw him partying with his family. He could not have any connection. Why would they do that?
Posted by: FloridaPatty | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:54 AM
Sorry-May 29 to 30. He was not with the others the night Natalee disappeared.
Posted by: scubajap | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 11:55 AM
BTW-Freddy had an ironclad alibi for the night in question-May 30-there was a big family event and he was with his family all night. Many Witnesses.
Posted by: scubajap | Sep 3, 2005 11:47:20 AM
I thought he was supposed to have spent the night at Joran's apartment.
Posted by: DennisAOK | Saturday, September 03, 2005 at 12:32 PM
One most step for Freddy to be the 5th suspect. I was just reading in the pages 29 to 40. Somewhere in there is a post about Freddy and Joran spending time with the girls from MB for the first few days. I can't remember where, but I swear I just read it. LOL So I am thinking you were right on Mum. Until someone proves to me otherwise...I am going with you. Freddy was that other person Simian talked about...now someone prove me wrong. Mum has done an excellent job of proving her point. If anyone thinks it's someone else prove it like Mum did.
Mum we need bullet points on Freddy's qualifications as the 5th. LOL
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LOL Lala's...where would I find those little bullet things?
Do you think Freddy's gone?
Party with relatives....Ernesto...was the false alibi saying he was at the Sloots for Joran-sleeping over, but then his family bailed him out?
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February 25, 2008, 08:57:45 PM »
Freddy's alibi...
ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT LILIAN REGINA..Mom
Stepdad
Stepsister...Sasha
The other Rodriguez...from Dr Phil...posted this morning
And I believe there is another one on the Log...may be HI security Guard
Got to look at that log again...
Still want to know why he is so protected...need his Dad's name!
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February 25, 2008, 08:59:40 PM »
I did see some party pictures from the bars with Freddy last year. I don't know if he's still in Aruba or maybe was there on school break? Who knows? If he's not in Aruba then my next guess would be with Ernesto in the Miami area.
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February 25, 2008, 09:05:06 PM »
You mean I have to go find those posts again!
I think the Soul Beach Festival beach concerts at Moomba's would be a good bet, they started early afternoon.
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Blonde,
No, those are not they.
It was a long time ago... where I saw that map.
I think that the three names mentioned form a triangle(like all three points will) but I thought that the VS home was near the center of those three points.
I think the waters around his home were being searched.
Fetid pools of deception...maybe this is a clue that false clues were being planted to throw the dogs off. Maybe riddle was speaking in broader terms.
I still wonder what JVDS meant that he was lucky that no one found her... like maybe one of the searches was close.
That smirk on his face when he said, "it's a big ocean" maybe like she is not there. One thing for sure, that smirk also meant he knows where she is.
I do not think they had enough time to dump her that night. The next day/night they would have had time. That is why he had to be on the casino video.
Odd too that he made certain that he was on video. So, he knew about the casino video-taping before when he and Papa Perv were sitting at the same table as NH.
Odd also, that body turns up draining pond, body found in the LH dunes, "old indian graves" at Fisherman's Huts. Just how many bodies does Aruba lose?
Oh, and Nat of course. But are they really looking for her?
How many more?
Fin
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=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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