Natalee Case Discussion #837 6/10/10 - 6/12/10

[klaasend]

*  Hi guy... care for a biscuit?






* Oh, there is a camera. I can always find one if I am in the room.

Looks to me like his knuckle is already starting to swell up

[Tylergal]

Perhaps that is why he is holding his right hand like Nathan Lane in `Bird Cage` in the coffee cup video? He hurt it.

Carpe, I was not the only one who saw that then.  I was wondering about it.  It almost looked as if it had a broken bone the way he was holding it.

I only see his swolen left hand.

Look at the right hand.  It is almost dangling, like there are broken phalangeal bones

His left hand looks swollen and I agree he is holding his pants with his right hand, but in the picture at the door, the hand that is not holding the coffee looks limp.  I think that was the right hand.  You can function after a day or 2 with broken fingers, unless they are really broken bad, but the first day it is pretty painful, but the body adjusts to some minor traumas.  But it looks like to me in that picture by the door that he might have a broken finger on his right hand.

[NewfieMonkey]

Aw bizman just quit over there.  I'll miss the entertainment.

quit???????

Retracted his membership.  Who will collect money for the defense fun now!? 

[Ono]

I just can't get over Anita out partying in Aruba.  She has the nerve of a government mule.

There are two girls dead for heaven's sake and her son is responsible and she is partying
with Richard Gere.  Beats all.

She's cold. 

I imagine she is about as welcome as a skunk at high tea!  If my son were in the same situation, I would be too ashamed to show myself in public; much less hobnob with the "elite" of the island.

You know-I doubt Aruba even knows what "high tea" is. lol

[cecilita]

*  Hi guy... care for a biscuit?






* Oh, there is a camera. I can always find one if I am in the room.

for some reason LE peru didnt release this video so he could continue with his lie and get caught. he just was 4 minutes outside the room.

He was waiting outside the room for 4 minutes??????

I also think he has already killed her......look at the shirt he has on, it is the one he left the hotel in.....I would figure that he took a shower after he killed her and changed his clothes....so he went to get coffee AFTER he murdered her!

in the veio the reporter says that he time between he get out of the room and the time he brought the hotel employee were around four or five minutes. I believe that he never went to the gas station to buy coffee, i lnew it because in peru nothing is open too early

[carpe noctem]

The cups he was carrying appear to be empty.

He went to AIRBUCKS. It happened like a lot of things, only in his head.

[SunnyinTX]

Aw bizman just quit over there.  I'll miss the entertainment.

quit???????

Retracted his membership.  Who will collect money for the defense fun now!? 

hahahahahaha....someone must have told him the truth..he is flicking nuts!  LOL

[carpe noctem]

If Joran ever makes it out of Peru's infamous prison alive, they will have to shim his rectum with a 25# boneless ham. 

ROFL! Now that is a lot of ham to be carrying in your prison wallet.

[cecilita]

Perhaps that is why he is holding his right hand like Nathan Lane in `Bird Cage` in the coffee cup video? He hurt it.

Carpe, I was not the only one who saw that then.  I was wondering about it.  It almost looked as if it had a broken bone the way he was holding it.

I only see his swolen left hand.

Look at the right hand.  It is almost dangling, like there are broken phalangeal bones

His left hand looks swollen and I agree he is holding his pants with his right hand, but in the picture at the door, the hand that is not holding the coffee looks limp.  I think that was the right hand.  You can function after a day or 2 with broken fingers, unless they are really broken bad, but the first day it is pretty painful, but the body adjusts to some minor traumas.  But it looks like to me in that picture by the door that he might have a broken finger on his right hand.

look the video when he is leaving, seems that his left hand is hurt.

[Gypsy DD]

In the people article Anita says she hasn't seen Joran since his Dad died in Feb. Yea right. And Melody and Aline are blaming all his friends for turning there back on him. I haven't read the whole article yet, but wonder what they think now?

April 25, 2010

He must've learned to lie from his mother.

Consider the sourse but ...

Janet

+++++++

Disposed - Patrick Vander Eem

Chapter 19:

JORAN: But there is nobody, I have never known anybody more honest than my father in my life.

PATRICK: Oh.

JORAN:  My mother, my mother can lie, y’know.

Somebody should send that to People magazine..better yet, leave it in the comments section about the article at People.com

[Tylergal]

I just can't get over Anita out partying in Aruba.  She has the nerve of a government mule.

There are two girls dead for heaven's sake and her son is responsible and she is partying
with Richard Gere.  Beats all.

She's cold. 

I imagine she is about as welcome as a skunk at high tea!  If my son were in the same situation, I would be too ashamed to show myself in public; much less hobnob with the "elite" of the island.

You know-I doubt Aruba even knows what "high tea" is. lol

LOL, Ono.  I agree with you and even if they had some impromptu thereof, she would be mighty welcome.  They think because she is from across the pond, she's royal.  They just don't know what a royal crapper she is.

[SunnyinTX]

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[Tylergal]

Perhaps that is why he is holding his right hand like Nathan Lane in `Bird Cage` in the coffee cup video? He hurt it.

Carpe, I was not the only one who saw that then.  I was wondering about it.  It almost looked as if it had a broken bone the way he was holding it.

I only see his swolen left hand.

Look at the right hand.  It is almost dangling, like there are broken phalangeal bones

His left hand looks swollen and I agree he is holding his pants with his right hand, but in the picture at the door, the hand that is not holding the coffee looks limp.  I think that was the right hand.  You can function after a day or 2 with broken fingers, unless they are really broken bad, but the first day it is pretty painful, but the body adjusts to some minor traumas.  But it looks like to me in that picture by the door that he might have a broken finger on his right hand.

look the video when he is leaving, seems that his left hand is hurt.

According to records released today, there was no blood on the tennis racquet, so he obviously did not hit her with that in any of the places that were bleeding, or around the head obviously as the head bleeds very easily, so he must have beaten her with his fist, and if so, that would account for the swollen or injured hands. 

[carpe noctem]

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[cw618]

*  Hi guy... care for a biscuit?






* Oh, there is a camera. I can always find one if I am in the room.

for some reason LE peru didnt release this video so he could continue with his lie and get caught. he just was 4 minutes outside the room.

He was waiting outside the room for 4 minutes??????

I also think he has already killed her......look at the shirt he has on, it is the one he left the hotel in.....I would figure that he took a shower after he killed her and changed his clothes....so he went to get coffee AFTER he murdered her!

in the veio the reporter says that he time between he get out of the room and the time he brought the hotel employee were around four or five minutes. I believe that he never went to the gas station to buy coffee, i lnew it because in peru nothing is open too early

cant find vid link at the moment but....
that explains why it seemed he barely knocked on the door, with right hand
his hands are fresh with swelling from the beating he did to her
he is a dam pig

[Tamikosmom]

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[Brandi]

The cups he was carrying appear to be empty.

He went to AIRBUCKS. It happened like a lot of things, only in his head.

They do appear to be empty!

And the paper cups would be too hot to carry against his chest like that, IMO.

[Gypsy DD]

I get comfort from the fact right now he is in his cell, in the cold and dark, listening to all the night noise in the prison.

[Red]

Perhaps that is why he is holding his right hand like Nathan Lane in `Bird Cage` in the coffee cup video? He hurt it.

Carpe, I was not the only one who saw that then.  I was wondering about it.  It almost looked as if it had a broken bone the way he was holding it.

I only see his swolen left hand.

Look at the right hand.  It is almost dangling, like there are broken phalangeal bones

His left hand looks swollen and I agree he is holding his pants with his right hand, but in the picture at the door, the hand that is not holding the coffee looks limp.  I think that was the right hand.  You can function after a day or 2 with broken fingers, unless they are really broken bad, but the first day it is pretty painful, but the body adjusts to some minor traumas.  But it looks like to me in that picture by the door that he might have a broken finger on his right hand.

look the video when he is leaving, seems that his left hand is hurt.

According to records released today, there was no blood on the tennis racquet, so he obviously did not hit her with that in any of the places that were bleeding, or around the head obviously as the head bleeds very easily, so he must have beaten her with his fist, and if so, that would account for the swollen or injured hands. 

There would have been no reason to beat her with an object, JVDS gets off by beating his victims with his hands or choking them ... that is his power over them. His MO is to be dominant over unsuspecting and helpless victims, thus the use of date rape drugs.

Stephany's neck was broke, he did that with his hands so he had to be close to her and smothering her as there was no noise or screams heard by anyone. How does that much violence take place and no screams? The answer is she was most likely sleeping, groggy when he attacked her. There was no laptop involved.

[Ono]

Interview with Stephany Flores' father with English subtitles:

http://www.youtube.com/user/migmontest#p/u/3/6HgeSzCRbHM

There are four right now, click on the others on the right side of the page.

Thank you so much for posting these-so helpful.  My heart aches for this lovely man and family.

The son saw her and the police did not want the father to see her.  How sweet it was of the son to identify her to save his parents that burden.  They sound so totally different from Anita and Paulus.

God-I love them.  Noble & kindness itself.