Natalee Case Discussion #794 1/18/09 - 1/23/09

[Tamikosmom]

I agree.

Janet

[crazybabyborg]

Hey ... Ducky and I are outta here.  I have a feeling Hotshot is going to log in and ... Ducky is going to get his feathers ruffled in all the commotion and ... take off over the magnificent American landscape heading straight for the Canadian border without me riding on his back.  It is too much to comprehend.

 

GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!!

Janet
9:15 PM PT

Your Ducky is a chicken, Janet!     

[Keepthefaith]

Hey ... Ducky and I are outta here.  I have a feeling Hotshot is going to log in and ... Ducky is going to get his feathers ruffled in all the commotion and ... take off over the magnificent American landscape heading straight for the Canadian border without me riding on his back.  It is too much to comprehend.

 

GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!!

Janet
9:15 PM PT

Goodnight Janet.God Bless and Justice for Natalee!

[texasmom]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

In my opinion this is a very good summary of things Artcolley! 

[texasmom]

Hey ... Ducky and I are outta here.  I have a feeling Hotshot is going to log in and ... Ducky is going to get his feathers ruffled in all the commotion and ... take off over the magnificent American landscape heading straight for the Canadian border without me riding on his back.  It is too much to comprehend.

 

GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!!

Janet
9:15 PM PT

Goodnight Janet!   

[bc73]

Go figure huh? 

Playing both sides of the coin
Pot/Kettle

The sad thing is after reading some of her site, it seems there is only one side of the coin. If everyone is on the same page, this should be easy. Unless those people are out for personal gains or glory(which she has also accused Kermit of). I haven't seen anyone refute Kermit directly, nor anyone accuse her of booking a trip to Aruba while on a boycott mission. Interesting...

[crazybabyborg]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

Good synopsis, Artcolley. Well said.

[Artcolley]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

In my opinion this is a very good summary of things Artcolley! 

THanks, TM
Scared Monkey is always  a nice place to be. Monkeys Rock. The Mods are super, The Admins are the Best.
Yep, its all here!
(Bet that kills the a**holes)

[Lifesong]

Go figure huh? 

Playing both sides of the coin
Pot/Kettle

Heh heh.  Both sides of the coin....

Don't forget about the ridges      

Playing the ridges on the diameter         

[wreck]

No need to be so long winded, Wreck! This one says it all:   

[texasmom]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

In my opinion this is a very good summary of things Artcolley! 

THanks, TM
Scared Monkey is always  a nice place to be. Monkeys Rock. The Mods are super, The Admins are the Best.
Yep, its all here!
(Bet that kills the a**holes)

All true, that's why they CAN'T STAY AWAY!!!!   

[texasmom]

Go figure huh? 

Playing both sides of the coin
Pot/Kettle

Heh heh.  Both sides of the coin....

Don't forget about the ridges      

Playing the ridges on the diameter         

 

[Keepthefaith]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

In my opinion this is a very good summary of things Artcolley! 

THanks, TM
Scared Monkey is always  a nice place to be. Monkeys Rock. The Mods are super, The Admins are the Best.
Yep, its all here!
(Bet that kills the a**holes)

That's why they keep coming back!I appreciate your thoughts ArtColley.The thing is.We're all Human,wrong at times,and make mistakes.You know someone's true character when one is able to admit fault!I for one,wish that i'm wrong about the happenings of the Persistence.No one can dispute Kyle's own word's,and or Kermit's finding's with anyhthing factual with any basis.JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.That's it!

KEEPTHEFAITH

[Tamikosmom]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

Art ... you are very perceptive and ... you articulated that perception perfectly.

Thank you.

Janet

[San]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

I agree with you Art.

[Artcolley]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

In my opinion this is a very good summary of things Artcolley! 

THanks, TM
Scared Monkey is always  a nice place to be. Monkeys Rock. The Mods are super, The Admins are the Best.
Yep, its all here!
(Bet that kills the a**holes)

All true, that's why they CAN'T STAY AWAY!!!!   

OH, cause see, I think part of "initiation" is fly-by relay races, Yep, gotta see how often and how fast one can post and run to disrupt things (or try) . That way they get their points tallied to see who gains admittance to the hidey hole (dungeon) next!
Makes perfect sense to me, 
See, that Hidey hole is very very important. All the Important research is kept there. Comic book research, mumbo jumbo translations, visions, all sorts of good stuff, doncha know. VERY important Stuff.

[Artcolley]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

Art ... you are very perceptive and ... you articulated that perception perfectly.

Thank you.

Janet

YOu are welcome , Janet

[klaasend]

Nite Janet

Thanks Artcolley

[Artcolley]

My opinion only, BUt having watched some posters from the very beginning , I think they started off doing some very good things in regard to trying to find the truth for Natalee and her family.

However, at some point, I believe this concern became an obsession and they lost touch with reality and began making rash decisions. When they reached that point, all common sense appeared to go out the window.
When people would question them or their theories, they would lash out at them rather than discuss intelligently as they had previously done.


I have noticed a marked change over these few years and I don't think its a very good change. It has caused some to form "splinter" groups for "those in the know" (read those that support some pretty wild theories) mumbo jumbo theories, etc and its grown into a mess. Recently its become,  "if you don't support what I say, YOU hate me , or YOU are ATTACKING me, etc."
All this is just a symptom of total obsession, imo.
And of course, there are just those that are your random, basic Trolls also.

Again, this is my opinion only.
I just wish everyone could get back on track and begin to think rationally again and leave the BS behind.

From what I've also observed, here at Scared Monkeys things are consistent. Discussions take place WITHOUT power plays or back stabbing. Its quite refreshing for me.

I guess some just can't stand that. They need upheaval to survive.

Okay, I am off my soapbox.

I agree with you Art.

THanks, San

[crazybabyborg]

Many of us have had a wrong opinion or theory that we've changed over time in this case. I've said it before, but I was just sure that the blonde hair on the duct tape would prove to be Natalee's. I allowed myself to initially trust Hans Mos, too!

Most of us manage to tease out our opinions and objectively weigh them against new information and other opinions. This with Kyle and the persistence, has a whole other flavor to it because of a few posters and the venom of the opposition. JMO.