Natalee Case Discussion #697 11/29 - 11/30/2007

[klaasend]

Also- posted by Sunmoonstars at RU:

sunmoonstars wrote:
Fox gave a little blurb a little while ago. Not much to it, except that the Kalpoes will know tomorrow if they are released. OH, and Joran got a bible, but not the other things he asked for. He will know tomorrow on those items.

[Tylergal]

Nut

Thanks for link to ship

Magnolia

Ariean deBie was around early on.  I don't remember him in Carlos law firm.  What I found was that he was licensed in the Netherlands Antilles, had gone to school in the Netherlands and was the special guest, invited to sing at the law school reunion. 

STom

Have not found anything on Jose Figueroa  but found three Figueroas, two from Colombia and one from Venezuela.  Many of the Aruban law firms lists 13-20 members but not all their names.

Interesting bit on Augusto Figueroa Sierra is that he's licensed in Colombia (where Kock has an office) but got a MA and possible PHD at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (by Chicago, where Deepak has a lawyer).  probably is nothing.

All I can say is...that if Paulus did a brief lawyer search, Monday night, he must have known exactly what and who he was looking for....or by gum...he'd still be searching...

San

I think they have access to a second property, also....they disappear too fast, from home.

Google Netherlands, war on terror, etc

[blah]

when did Greta go back to DC?

[Tylergal]

Those of you who think this is just a show, whom do you think is behind the show and  for what purpose?

the same corrupt officials who bailed the sloots out in the beginning.  The purpose is to save their own ass, just as before.

Yes, that's the only thing that worries me, the Curaco judges.  I trust Mos, just not sure he knows how to get rid of judges appointed by the powers that be so that he gets a fair shake from the judges. 

[Tylergal]

Those of you who think this is just a show, whom do you think is behind the show and  for what purpose?

The man who started the ball rolling by requesting help from the Dutch Rudy Croes.

San wins the door prize.

[blah]

I think Joran getting just a bible is a good sign.
I thought when I saw that list the other day that if the judge
was not corrupt he would give him a bible and nothing more.

where did you hear he is just getting a bible?
I could swear i just heard differently on FOX, anyone watching FOX???

I was watching FOX.  The only thing they verified that he did get was his bible.  It was said the judge would make his final decision on the rest of Joran's requests tomorrow.

thanks for clearing that up.  Not sure why the judge would wait until tomorrow but at least there is still hope the judge will do the right thing and DENY this nonesense.  ESPECIALLY the visitation from mommy and daddy!!!

[Anna]

Those of you who think this is just a show, whom do you think is behind the show and  for what purpose?

The man who started the ball rolling by requesting help from the Dutch Rudy Croes.

San wins the door prize.

But for what purpose?  Why not just leave it twisting in the wind?  At least for now, the suspects are not of free feet.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Those of you who think this is just a show, whom do you think is behind the show and  for what purpose?

The man who started the ball rolling by requesting help from the Dutch Rudy Croes.

San wins the door prize.

So right, Tyler....it's easy to forget these details when getting wrapped up in the current events.   

[klaasend]

when did Greta go back to DC?

Greta flew from Aruba to Bolingbrook IL yesterday morning(11/28).  On her blog she talked about flying back today to DC. 

[SunnyinTX]

i kept this little bit...I don't remember which interview it was from.....


Reporter: Well, I think if you can explain to people what really happened, and you were really forthcoming, the more forthcoming you are, the more chance there will be for you to get on with your life.

Joran van der Sloot: One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.

[Lala'sMom]

Local news abc3340 led with Natalee Holloway story tonight...pretty much the same stuff we already know except the interview with Dave Holloway.  Mentioned the boat that left from Louisiana today and the new search that was planned.  Dave said the prosecutor told him a "couple weeks" ago that Natalee was no longer alive. 

Next question that Hammer has been asking for 2 years now...HOW DOES MOS KNOW SHE IS DEAD?

Someone told them...showed them...or they heard it from the wire taps. 

[blah]

when did Greta go back to DC?

Greta flew from Aruba to Bolingbrook IL yesterday morning(11/28).  On her blog she talked about flying back today to DC. 

good.  Having her sniffing around the island trying to get people to talk was making me nervous.  Who knows what would happen if she were actually able to get someone to spill the beans on her show 

[Nut44x4]

let him have his bible

he will be needing it

LOL Robots!
I have been hoping some of these reporters/news people will ask the big question to some of the people they interview..."Do you think there will be any further arrests??"  WHY has no one asked that question to anyone.

[Anna]

For every appearance by Joe T, I would like to see one by John Q Kelley or someone else knowledgeable about the case who is NOT in Aruba presenting an Aruban slant on things.

It's not fair to have nonstop Joe T like this, forming a very pro-Joran image in the American media with very little to counter it.  I wonder why Greta and others are doing this and why they are defending Joran's position all day long.

Free junkets for all Fox News personnel plus CNN and MSNBC?  Millions in advertising dollars?  What's the deal why we have to see his putrid face constantly?  You can't get away from this guy, Joe T.

.

[2NJSons_Mom]

i kept this little bit...I don't remember which interview it was from.....


Reporter: Well, I think if you can explain to people what really happened, and you were really forthcoming, the more forthcoming you are, the more chance there will be for you to get on with your life.

Joran van der Sloot: One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.

Reading this just pisses me off....think it was the Cuomo interview on ABC, but not sure.

[blah]

i kept this little bit...I don't remember which interview it was from.....


Reporter: Well, I think if you can explain to people what really happened, and you were really forthcoming, the more forthcoming you are, the more chance there will be for you to get on with your life.

Joran van der Sloot: One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.

wasnt that from when her first fled to the Netherlands?

[crazybabyborg]

Didn't Dave give Paulus a bible for Joran when he was in jail the last time?  I don't remember exactly if it was books, or the good book.

NYC_Lover posted a link to Joran's myspace (I think it was myspace) and showed last logged on 11/27/07....I think that was yesterday she posted it.

I missed that...do we have a link?

Please forgive if already answered, I'm catching up. Dave gave Paulus a copy of ,"The Purpose Filled Life", a Christian Best Seller. It was in Dave's Book.

(I've read it, and it is WONDERFUL!)

[klaasend]

Local news abc3340 led with Natalee Holloway story tonight...pretty much the same stuff we already know except the interview with Dave Holloway.  Mentioned the boat that left from Louisiana today and the new search that was planned.  Dave said the prosecutor told him a "couple weeks" ago that Natalee was no longer alive. 

Next question that Hammer has been asking for 2 years now...HOW DOES MOS KNOW SHE IS DEAD?

Someone told them...showed them...or they heard it from the wire taps. 

Dave/TES/KLPD/FBI/Prosecutor all working together.  They know Natalee is not alive.  Maybe they do have a pretty good idea where in the ocean she was put?

[blah]

Local news abc3340 led with Natalee Holloway story tonight...pretty much the same stuff we already know except the interview with Dave Holloway.  Mentioned the boat that left from Louisiana today and the new search that was planned.  Dave said the prosecutor told him a "couple weeks" ago that Natalee was no longer alive. 

Next question that Hammer has been asking for 2 years now...HOW DOES MOS KNOW SHE IS DEAD?

Someone told them...showed them...or they heard it from the wire taps. 

probably the same way Van Der Stratten knew - "because I have seen the evidence and you havent"

[2NJSons_Mom]

Thanks, CBB...just didn't remember.