Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #81

[no rose colored glasses]

If ZG is going after Casey for the money, I don't care. I had read somewhere that there might have to be some financial disclosure on the KC and the Cindy & George side.
Put yourself in ZG's place. She is sitting at home with her kids. Suddenly she is a suspect in a missing child case and her name is splashed out there multiple times by Casey, Cindy and George. Plus, she did look at a suite at Sawgrass. Her car is similar. She is questioned by OCSD and cleared by them. But not by the ANTS. Oh, they meant a different one ? Which one ?
Hope she gets enough money out of them to last a lifetime. I would sue and if Morgan didn't think he had a chance, he wouldn't have taken it. He is probably going to get one third of any settlement.     

I agree I hope she wins, I hope it all comes out at trial with the Sawgrass Apts and Zenaida, I really would like to know how exactly this all came about in Casey's story. It is probably very simple, but am curious just the same.

I hope she wins big.  Casey ruined her life.  She can't get a job and she is harrassed by people who think she killed Casey.  I was in a deposition session once and the woman opposing me didn't want to answer a question but my lawyer said to her lawyer, "Will you instruct your client that she must answer every question I ask, whether she sees the relevance or not?"  Her lawyer did.  Later she had her lawyer file a request with the judge that would prevent our calling a witness who was, actually a large part of the case,.  She was practically laughed out of court.  When my lawyer talked to me before I was deposed he told me to answer every question truthfully, even if I am asked if I eat puppies for breakfast on Christmas.  I wasn't asked that, but I answered every question.  Finally my lawyer had a talk with her lawyer privately and gave her an idea of the evidence and documents we had and they immediately settled the case in my favor.  So I know that lawyers can ask anything they want in depositions, relevant or not, the the person being deposed has to answer.  So Morgan can ask Casey about anything at all, and the same with every other witness he deposes.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!!!!!!

Thanks for that info, and Merry Christmas to you.

[Babybear]

from Caylee#80 « Reply #1869 on: December 23, 2008, 08:48:42 PM »

Lots of trash bags and garbage.. everywhere.  And this guy wouldn't go back there to whatever bag or whatever object he thought shouldn't be there, because it was a swamp area full of diamond back rattle snakes.   Get where I'm going with this? So how did he think this - whatever it was - was odd enough to call 911 for? Again, yes he found Caylee. I'm glad for that. But still...

I may be wrong, but I don't think it was Kronk who would not go back into the woods because of a snake. I believe it was the Police Officer that was dispatched to the scene. I can't find where I read this, but I am pretty sure it was the cop.

That's what I read too, it was the Police Officer.  Cuz I was thinking why wouldn't he just take out his gun and shoot the damn thing, or at the very least call in animal control to confine the snake.  The story still doesn't sound right to me.  Just like LE telling the teens that there was no problem, it was 'just a bomb' in that hole found in that area.  WTF?  A snake that scares the jeebies out of an officer, a bomb? GMAFB. 

They should have called my oldest son in, ever since he was 7 years old, he would have marched right up to that snake and grabbed it behind the jaws and come out swinging it for all to see.  (he's done this many mannnnny times, even with rattlers, I have the gray hair to prove it). 

I don't buy the bomb story, and I don't buy the snake story.  The question is... Why does LE think the public is so STUPID as to believe this????   

I don't know about the snake issue, but I am not buying the bomb story, in any way, shape or form. Since there appears to be so many snakes in that area, there must be a way of dealing with this, just like with alligators.

exactly!  LE could have called animal control or whoever deals with wild critters, am sure they've been called many a time before in FL.  It makes no sense whatsoever that one or more snakes prevented the search for a missing child.  Call out the snakebusters and get this show on the road.  That they supposedly backed off and didn't do this makes me think it didn't really happen this way. 

It makes me think that the cops had been called out on so many spurious tips that they no longer took any of them seriously.  Only when they heard "Human skull" did they perk up.

[Tamikosmom]

ROY KRONK

Recordings were just released of the calls made by the Orange County meter reader who tried to alert authorities in August about bag that officials later determined contained the remains of Caylee Marie Anthony.

The remains of the little girl were not found until Dec. 11. Orange County Sheriff's officials have said they were reviewing their response to the calls Roy Marvin Kronk made on Aug. 11, 12 and 13. The girl's body was found a short walk from the house where she lived with her mother, Casey, and her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

Kronk returned to the property on Dec. 11 and called again.

+++++++

LISTEN: Call from meter reader Roy Kronk to Orange Co. Sheriff's Office on Aug. 11

Play audio:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-meter-reader-caylee-remains-call-1-mp3,0,1544441.mp3file


LISTEN: Call from meter reader Roy Kronk to Orange Co. Sheriff's Office on Aug. 12

Play audio:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-meter-reader-caylee-remains-call-2-mp3,0,1872122.mp3file


LISTEN: Call from meter reader Roy Kronk to Orange Co. Sheriff's Office on Aug. 13

Play audio:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-meter-reader-caylee-remains-call-3-mp3,0,2199803.mp3file

[no rose colored glasses]

ROY KRONK

Recordings were just released of the calls made by the Orange County meter reader who tried to alert authorities in August about bag that officials later determined contained the remains of Caylee Marie Anthony.

The remains of the little girl were not found until Dec. 11. Orange County Sheriff's officials have said they were reviewing their response to the calls Roy Marvin Kronk made on Aug. 11, 12 and 13. The girl's body was found a short walk from the house where she lived with her mother, Casey, and her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

Kronk returned to the property on Dec. 11 and called again.

+++++++

LISTEN: Call from meter reader Roy Kronk to Orange Co. Sheriff's Office on Aug. 11

Play audio:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-meter-reader-caylee-remains-call-1-mp3,0,1544441.mp3file


LISTEN: Call from meter reader Roy Kronk to Orange Co. Sheriff's Office on Aug. 12

Play audio:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-meter-reader-caylee-remains-call-2-mp3,0,1872122.mp3file


LISTEN: Call from meter reader Roy Kronk to Orange Co. Sheriff's Office on Aug. 13

Play audio:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-meter-reader-caylee-remains-call-3-mp3,0,2199803.mp3file

Thanks Janet, and a Merry Christmas Eve to you.

[Wyks]

from Caylee#80 « Reply #1869 on: December 23, 2008, 08:48:42 PM »

Lots of trash bags and garbage.. everywhere.  And this guy wouldn't go back there to whatever bag or whatever object he thought shouldn't be there, because it was a swamp area full of diamond back rattle snakes.   Get where I'm going with this? So how did he think this - whatever it was - was odd enough to call 911 for? Again, yes he found Caylee. I'm glad for that. But still...

I may be wrong, but I don't think it was Kronk who would not go back into the woods because of a snake. I believe it was the Police Officer that was dispatched to the scene. I can't find where I read this, but I am pretty sure it was the cop.

That's what I read too, it was the Police Officer.  Cuz I was thinking why wouldn't he just take out his gun and shoot the damn thing, or at the very least call in animal control to confine the snake.  The story still doesn't sound right to me.  Just like LE telling the teens that there was no problem, it was 'just a bomb' in that hole found in that area.  WTF?   A snake that scares the jeebies out of an officer, a bomb? GMAFB. 

They should have called my oldest son in, ever since he was 7 years old, he would have marched right up to that snake and grabbed it behind the jaws and come out swinging it for all to see.  (he's done this many mannnnny times, even with rattlers, I have the gray hair to prove it). 

I don't buy the bomb story, and I don't buy the snake story.  The question is... Why does LE think the public is so STUPID as to believe this????   

I think the whole bomb story is the fishiest part of the entire thing.  That makes absolutely NO sense.  If there was a bomb, what was done with it?  Was the bomb squad called out?   

I think the fact that there was a string or something similar tied to whatever was buried at that time is very suspect.  I seriously think they wanted to be able to come back and retrieve the body at a later date and move it again.

I think so too...

In fact, when Caylee's body was first found, the teens went to the media (we read the report here) and said something to the effect, 'omg that's where we saw it! .. referring to whatever it was with the string coming up out of the ground. 

All of it together, the teens story, the weirdness from LE about the supposed bomb, the meter readers story, the weirdness from LE about the supposed snake, all of it together.. makes me think that yes indeed it's just possible that LE actually found Caylee's body earlier on, from those early reports that led them there. 

Now.. why would they have found the body and waited all this time to make that public?  I dunno.  Why didn't they include the earlier 911 calls from the meter reader, with those that they released to the public?  I dunno.  Maybe LE actually had the body since back then and left the rest at the site for a later "discovery".  Yet that makes no sense either.  Sigh.  I can't make head nor tails out of this thing.  But something is VERY odd about it all.  It just doesn't make any sense yet. 

[Wyks]

Sitting here in sweats, two pair of socks, and typing in a pair of gloves, cuz it's warmed up to 6 degrees.   

A monkey typing in gloves!  That's quite a feat Wyks! 

That's true dedication to the cage, Newfie.. 

Or is it addiction?    

[theboyzmom]

If ZG is going after Casey for the money, I don't care. I had read somewhere that there might have to be some financial disclosure on the KC and the Cindy & George side.
Put yourself in ZG's place. She is sitting at home with her kids. Suddenly she is a suspect in a missing child case and her name is splashed out there multiple times by Casey, Cindy and George. Plus, she did look at a suite at Sawgrass. Her car is similar. She is questioned by OCSD and cleared by them. But not by the ANTS. Oh, they meant a different one ? Which one ?
Hope she gets enough money out of them to last a lifetime. I would sue and if Morgan didn't think he had a chance, he wouldn't have taken it. He is probably going to get one third of any settlement.     

I agree I hope she wins, I hope it all comes out at trial with the Sawgrass Apts and Zenaida, I really would like to know how exactly this all came about in Casey's story. It is probably very simple, but am curious just the same.

I hope she wins big.  Casey ruined her life.  She can't get a job and she is harrassed by people who think she killed Casey.  I was in a deposition session once and the woman opposing me didn't want to answer a question but my lawyer said to her lawyer, "Will you instruct your client that she must answer every question I ask, whether she sees the relevance or not?"  Her lawyer did.  Later she had her lawyer file a request with the judge that would prevent our calling a witness who was, actually a large part of the case,.  She was practically laughed out of court.  When my lawyer talked to me before I was deposed he told me to answer every question truthfully, even if I am asked if I eat puppies for breakfast on Christmas.  I wasn't asked that, but I answered every question.  Finally my lawyer had a talk with her lawyer privately and gave her an idea of the evidence and documents we had and they immediately settled the case in my favor.  So I know that lawyers can ask anything they want in depositions, relevant or not, the the person being deposed has to answer.  So Morgan can ask Casey about anything at all, and the same with every other witness he deposes.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!!!!!!

Thanks for that info, and Merry Christmas to you.

I agree with BabyBear - discovery is VERY liberal in civil cases.  But it does depend on the jurisdiction that you are in. Michigan is pretty free with what you have to answer and I believe that Florida is. The better question is where is the money going to come from if she wins?

[trimmonthelake]

I would think that once KC states that the ZG in the court room isn't the woman who "kidnapped Caylee"...that would be as much as Mr Morgan could say..his client is vindicated which is what is needed for this ZG to move on with her life..Mr Morgan doesn't represent all of the Zenaida Gonzalez's of the world so why would he be allowed to continue questioning?

I'm not sure what this ZG hopes to gain by this lawsuit...KC didn't directly point her finger at her and say "it's her"  It was the media who tagged her as "The Zenaida" wouldn't the lawsuit be more appropriately directed at the media ?

I don't have any experience with legal matters (thank god) I'm just shooting from the hip

self edit ... got my tongue stuck in the keyboard 

Thank you.I just spit DrPepper out my nose.   

[JodyO]

Just checking in to read for a few minutes - not nearly enough time to catch up. Anyway, I want to tell Red, Mrs. Red, and ALL the monkeys Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!

[Wyks]

Can someone explain the bomb story to me? I remember when it first hit the internet, something about a rope in water and when they tugged whatever was tyed to it was released. But somehow I don't recall anything else. Was it where Caylee was found?

It was I believe five boys, it sure sounds rather close to where Caylee was found, and they found something in a hole, went back the next day, the LE was called. Their statements were in one of the doc dumps. I really have no idea why LE said it was a bomb. A bomb so close to a school, when there is a bomb, don't they usually call out bomb experts?

Yep, one would think so!  In the docs it doesn't mention what they did about the supposed bomb, the comment made by LE was that it was 'just a bomb'. 

JUST a bomb?    

[trimmonthelake]

I think KC would have to explain the connection of ZG to the Sawgrass.  That would be interesting.

Remember that ZG did go look at that very apt. at Sawgrass.

That whole situation was strange.I would love to hear what she has to say too.

[Wyks]

scoobysnack 
Dec 24, 2008 | 10:36 AM I was told by my LE source that the book we have seen Caylee with was in the bag with her body, I wonder why the "BIOTCH" didn't put her baby (doll) in there also.. instead she rides around with it in the car seat, that is very strange ..
http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/11/27/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony_Part_II?page_no=1697

Maybe in Casey's weird reality, the baby doll replaced Caylee.  A baby, yet one who doesn't get hungry, need to go potty, need naps, talk, scream for Cindy, etc.   

I have no idea why Casey put that doll in Caylee's car seat, but there has to be a reason for it, and I like your reason about the doll replacing Caylee. I wish we knew if that was Caylee's doll, or if originally the doll was Casey's and she gave it to Caylee to play with. If it was Casey's doll to begin with there was no way she was going to get rid of her doll.

Could be, no rose!  If that was Casey's doll first, it might have been that Casey 'got rid' of her competition for center of attention, have her own baby doll back and go back to being the baby of the family herself. 

[no rose colored glasses]

from Caylee#80 « Reply #1869 on: December 23, 2008, 08:48:42 PM »

Lots of trash bags and garbage.. everywhere.  And this guy wouldn't go back there to whatever bag or whatever object he thought shouldn't be there, because it was a swamp area full of diamond back rattle snakes.   Get where I'm going with this? So how did he think this - whatever it was - was odd enough to call 911 for? Again, yes he found Caylee. I'm glad for that. But still...

I may be wrong, but I don't think it was Kronk who would not go back into the woods because of a snake. I believe it was the Police Officer that was dispatched to the scene. I can't find where I read this, but I am pretty sure it was the cop.

That's what I read too, it was the Police Officer.  Cuz I was thinking why wouldn't he just take out his gun and shoot the damn thing, or at the very least call in animal control to confine the snake.  The story still doesn't sound right to me.  Just like LE telling the teens that there was no problem, it was 'just a bomb' in that hole found in that area.  WTF?   A snake that scares the jeebies out of an officer, a bomb? GMAFB. 

They should have called my oldest son in, ever since he was 7 years old, he would have marched right up to that snake and grabbed it behind the jaws and come out swinging it for all to see.  (he's done this many mannnnny times, even with rattlers, I have the gray hair to prove it). 

I don't buy the bomb story, and I don't buy the snake story.  The question is... Why does LE think the public is so STUPID as to believe this????   

I think the whole bomb story is the fishiest part of the entire thing.  That makes absolutely NO sense.  If there was a bomb, what was done with it?  Was the bomb squad called out?   

I think the fact that there was a string or something similar tied to whatever was buried at that time is very suspect.  I seriously think they wanted to be able to come back and retrieve the body at a later date and move it again.

I think so too...

In fact, when Caylee's body was first found, the teens went to the media (we read the report here) and said something to the effect, 'omg that's where we saw it! .. referring to whatever it was with the string coming up out of the ground. 

All of it together, the teens story, the weirdness from LE about the supposed bomb, the meter readers story, the weirdness from LE about the supposed snake, all of it together.. makes me think that yes indeed it's just possible that LE actually found Caylee's body earlier on, from those early reports that led them there. 

Now.. why would they have found the body and waited all this time to make that public?  I dunno.  Why didn't they include the earlier 911 calls from the meter reader, with those that they released to the public?  I dunno.  Maybe LE actually had the body since back then and left the rest at the site for a later "discovery".  Yet that makes no sense either.  Sigh.  I can't make head nor tails out of this thing.  But something is VERY odd about it all.  It just doesn't make any sense yet. 

And then add to the mix of L Padillo saying on NG something to the effect of , LE might already have Caylee's remains.

[trimmonthelake]

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE, ALL!! 

LOVE YOU ALL!!!! 

Merry Christmas to you too Monken. 

[trimmonthelake]

Just checking in to read for a few minutes - not nearly enough time to catch up. Anyway, I want to tell Red, Mrs. Red, and ALL the monkeys Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!

Merry christmas to you too,JodyO. 

[Wyks]

Merry Christmas to all


I wish LE would release the name of the cop that told the boys it was a bomb and the cop that came to see the meter reader oh and the cop that waved the lady cop off and told her it was cleared.
I don't think the meter reader has done anything wrong I think he had a feeling and it just nagging at him and he just had to keep looking.

I think what is werid are the cops and if they had anything to do with Casey

Monkey hugs

I agree Stacey!  It would be very interesting indeed if it's the same responding officer each time, or at least if those officers knew Casey, had been involved with her to some degree. 

I've even wondered if there is some kind of thing going on in Orlando, that LE is involved in, and doesn't want the public to know.  Something that Casey is also involved in.  Such as prostitution or the GFE or escorts, etc. where the officers know and look the other way, or are actually involved. 

It's happened in other cities, other states, other countries, can't ignore the possibility it's happening in Orlando.  Could very well be this is going on, Casey could have been a fav, could be why LE is moddle-coddling her and the A's.  Could be this case might just break things wide open.  Could be that LE has been busy covering their asses.  And could be I'm totally way off base.   

Seems there has to be a reason LE is looking the other way on SO much that Casey and the A's have done, plus the weirdness about the finding of the crime scene, etc. 

Something is not right.  Something is going on.  And I'm gonna keep digging.   

[trimmonthelake]

scoobysnack 
Dec 24, 2008 | 10:36 AM I was told by my LE source that the book we have seen Caylee with was in the bag with her body, I wonder why the "BIOTCH" didn't put her baby (doll) in there also.. instead she rides around with it in the car seat, that is very strange ..
http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/11/27/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony_Part_II?page_no=1697

Maybe in Casey's weird reality, the baby doll replaced Caylee.  A baby, yet one who doesn't get hungry, need to go potty, need naps, talk, scream for Cindy, etc.   

I have no idea why Casey put that doll in Caylee's car seat, but there has to be a reason for it, and I like your reason about the doll replacing Caylee. I wish we knew if that was Caylee's doll, or if originally the doll was Casey's and she gave it to Caylee to play with. If it was Casey's doll to begin with there was no way she was going to get rid of her doll.

Could be, no rose!  If that was Casey's doll first, it might have been that Casey 'got rid' of her competition for center of attention, have her own baby doll back and go back to being the baby of the family herself. 

Sad as it is...it does make sense.

[trimmonthelake]

from Caylee#80 « Reply #1869 on: December 23, 2008, 08:48:42 PM »

Lots of trash bags and garbage.. everywhere.  And this guy wouldn't go back there to whatever bag or whatever object he thought shouldn't be there, because it was a swamp area full of diamond back rattle snakes.   Get where I'm going with this? So how did he think this - whatever it was - was odd enough to call 911 for? Again, yes he found Caylee. I'm glad for that. But still...

I may be wrong, but I don't think it was Kronk who would not go back into the woods because of a snake. I believe it was the Police Officer that was dispatched to the scene. I can't find where I read this, but I am pretty sure it was the cop.

That's what I read too, it was the Police Officer.  Cuz I was thinking why wouldn't he just take out his gun and shoot the damn thing, or at the very least call in animal control to confine the snake.  The story still doesn't sound right to me.  Just like LE telling the teens that there was no problem, it was 'just a bomb' in that hole found in that area.  WTF?   A snake that scares the jeebies out of an officer, a bomb? GMAFB. 

They should have called my oldest son in, ever since he was 7 years old, he would have marched right up to that snake and grabbed it behind the jaws and come out swinging it for all to see.  (he's done this many mannnnny times, even with rattlers, I have the gray hair to prove it). 

I don't buy the bomb story, and I don't buy the snake story.  The question is... Why does LE think the public is so STUPID as to believe this????   

I think the whole bomb story is the fishiest part of the entire thing.  That makes absolutely NO sense.  If there was a bomb, what was done with it?  Was the bomb squad called out?   

I think the fact that there was a string or something similar tied to whatever was buried at that time is very suspect.  I seriously think they wanted to be able to come back and retrieve the body at a later date and move it again.

I think so too...

In fact, when Caylee's body was first found, the teens went to the media (we read the report here) and said something to the effect, 'omg that's where we saw it! .. referring to whatever it was with the string coming up out of the ground. 

All of it together, the teens story, the weirdness from LE about the supposed bomb, the meter readers story, the weirdness from LE about the supposed snake, all of it together.. makes me think that yes indeed it's just possible that LE actually found Caylee's body earlier on, from those early reports that led them there. 

Now.. why would they have found the body and waited all this time to make that public?  I dunno.  Why didn't they include the earlier 911 calls from the meter reader, with those that they released to the public?  I dunno.  Maybe LE actually had the body since back then and left the rest at the site for a later "discovery".  Yet that makes no sense either.  Sigh.  I can't make head nor tails out of this thing.  But something is VERY odd about it all.  It just doesn't make any sense yet. 

And then add to the mix of L Padillo saying on NG something to the effect of , LE might already have Caylee's remains.

Exactly.The whole bomb story...snake story also bothers me. 

[Wyks]

I would think that once KC states that the ZG in the court room isn't the woman who "kidnapped Caylee"...that would be as much as Mr Morgan could say..his client is vindicated which is what is needed for this ZG to move on with her life..Mr Morgan doesn't represent all of the Zenaida Gonzalez's of the world so why would he be allowed to continue questioning?

I'm not sure what this ZG hopes to gain by this lawsuit...KC didn't directly point her finger at her and say "it's her"  It was the media who tagged her as "The Zenaida" wouldn't the lawsuit be more appropriately directed at the media ?

I don't have any experience with legal matters (thank god) I'm just shooting from the hip

self edit ... got my tongue stuck in the keyboard 

Thank you.I just spit DrPepper out my nose.   

    

[Wyks]

I think the whole bomb story is the fishiest part of the entire thing.  That makes absolutely NO sense.  If there was a bomb, what was done with it?  Was the bomb squad called out?   

I think the fact that there was a string or something similar tied to whatever was buried at that time is very suspect.  I seriously think they wanted to be able to come back and retrieve the body at a later date and move it again.

I think so too...

In fact, when Caylee's body was first found, the teens went to the media (we read the report here) and said something to the effect, 'omg that's where we saw it! .. referring to whatever it was with the string coming up out of the ground. 

All of it together, the teens story, the weirdness from LE about the supposed bomb, the meter readers story, the weirdness from LE about the supposed snake, all of it together.. makes me think that yes indeed it's just possible that LE actually found Caylee's body earlier on, from those early reports that led them there. 

Now.. why would they have found the body and waited all this time to make that public?  I dunno.  Why didn't they include the earlier 911 calls from the meter reader, with those that they released to the public?  I dunno.  Maybe LE actually had the body since back then and left the rest at the site for a later "discovery".  Yet that makes no sense either.  Sigh.  I can't make head nor tails out of this thing.  But something is VERY odd about it all.  It just doesn't make any sense yet. 

And then add to the mix of L Padillo saying on NG something to the effect of , LE might already have Caylee's remains.

Exactly!  Sure wish LP would have said more about that.  The way he lets some things slip out, not sure if those were his theories, or if they were his take on things actually going on behind the scenes.