Natalee Case Discussion #785 12/13/08 - 12/17/08

[klaasend]

Klaas, I am not trying to be a P.I.T.A. & say I know things others don't or shouldn't know. I just prefer to not stir up the mud again. If Janet wants my email address, you can give it to her.

And why should Janet believe what you say in email?  Sorry but after 3 1/2 years that just doesn't cut it.  Not only that, the topic has really gone away from those photos and in another direction at the moment. I just don't get all the problem.  Either come post a rebuttle to Kermit with backup or don't. 

RIGHT NOW, the embarrassment of the Sloots appears to be making more headway than anything else including what may or may not have been in that trap.

[Keepthefaith]

Was that a drive by?  Just come and make posts to shake the cage and leave?   

I was waiting for someone to say something.That is funny.Was that what we consider the first Drive-by post!Drive-by post.Coined by MuffyBee..

I liked Wreck's "put up or shut up".   I was also wondering since some know things we (you and I, the common monkeys) cannot be told, what are we, chopped liver?!

So why do it?You only lose credibility with other Monkey's.As far as i've seen since being on here evrything has been pretty transparent..Thank you Scared Monkey's..

[klaasend]

Tamikosmom posted:
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Yap ... do you have information to the contrary.

Janet

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Janet, actually I do. I would rather not go in to it here. You are welcome to get my email address from Klaas.

So you are volunteering that I make a special effort to email someone, like I haven't anything better to do?

[2NJSons_Mom]

Was that a drive by?  Just come and make posts to shake the cage and leave?   

Not the first time....but it is annoying.....G'nite all.  I am tempted to say more, but I'd 'rather not'.   

[wreck]

Klaas, I am not trying to be a P.I.T.A. & say I know things others don't or shouldn't know. I just prefer to not stir up the mud again. If Janet wants my email address, you can give it to her.

And why should Janet believe what you say in email?  Sorry but after 3 1/2 years that just doesn't cut it.  Not only that, the topic has really gone away from those photos and in another direction at the moment. I just don't get all the problem.  Either come post a rebuttle to Kermit with backup or don't. 

RIGHT NOW, the embarrassment of the Sloots appears to be making more headway than anything else including what may or may not have been in that trap.

All that little nonsense did was make me believe Kermit's info is correct even more. Someone's VERY nervous!

[Keepthefaith]

Tamikosmom posted:
<snip>
Yap ... do you have information to the contrary.

Janet

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Janet, actually I do. I would rather not go in to it here. You are welcome to get my email address from Klaas.

So you are volunteering that I make a special effort to email someone, like I haven't anything better to do?

I think we've all learned your ability to multi-task Klass. id You read the e-mail.Pretty generic??

[San]

This is so cool.  Look at the post cards that can be bought.....
Clinton:      http://www.nixonlibraryfoundation.org/index.php?src=directory&view=products&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&xsearch_id=store_search&xsearch%5B0%5D=at+Nixon%5C%27s+Funeral&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&refno=826&srctype=products_detail
Billy Graham:        http://www.nixonlibraryfoundation.org/index.php?src=directory&view=products&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&xsearch_id=store_search&xsearch%5B0%5D=at+Nixon%5C%27s+Funeral&query=%28name.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral.or.description.like.at%20Nixon%27s%20Funeral%29&refno=823&srctype=products_detail

It would be kind of hard to take the picture and be in it from a distance at the same time.

I still believe Kermit.

[Keepthefaith]

Recieved  a e-mail back from a Roeland bol regarding the Natalee Holloway investigation but oddly enough it was not addressed to me.Am i able to copy and post it here?I would think not?Need an answer from a Mod??

I'm interested.  Not sure why you would need permission to post it....unless somehow he linked RU...lol....

Post the email as long as no personal information (email address,etc.) is posted.

YES, as long as no identifying email addresses or phone numbers, etc are in the email go ahead and post if you feel it will help discussion of the case.

If after seeing the email it appears to be out of line we can edit it.

Your message about an official investigation Natalee Holloway

Thank you for your contribution by e-mail sent on 9 december 2008.

 

Your message is being handled by the Directorate for Kingdom Relations. We aim to respond to your message by e-mail before 25 December.

 

 

THE STATE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR AND KINGDOM RELATIONS,

on her behalf,

The director for Kingdom relations,

 

G.E.A. van Craaikamp

 

Ministry of Interior and Kingdom Relations

The Hague, The Netherlands

BUMP

[Tamikosmom]

Tamikosmom posted:
<snip>
Yap ... do you have information to the contrary.

Janet

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Janet, actually I do. I would rather not go in to it here. You are welcome to get my email address from Klaas.

Why is it you rather not go into it here?  You brought it up.....Why offer your email through Klaas to Janet?  Is it because she asked?  I just don't get it...and I did read Klaas's post before starting mine.

 

I never requested Yap's email from Klaas.  Please check with Klaas prior to insinuating.

Janet

[truthseeker2]

Very interesting stuff..

first one: Marlex,
Marlex is a trademarked name for "crystalline polypropylene" and "high-density polyethylene" (HDPE). These plastics were invented by J. Paul Hogan and Robert Banks, two research chemists at the Phillips Petroleum company.

Marlex was used by Wham-O for their Hula Hoops in the 1950s, which helped create a market for this plastic. It is now used surgically as a reinforcing mesh in inguinal hernia repair.


Which is
Same company as Phillip Morris tobacco.

Right Up their ally



The most interesting thing was Josy saying he was Born in Aruba..
Which makes him an Aruban national citizen.
His holding Dutch citizenship is something I wonder about.
Also the amount of books he has written makes him a sort of genius. How Many people write Dictionaries ?
All very interesting

Edward - Many months ago, I spent days researching this in Shango.  It was prompted by something that I had read in the same article that was posted a few pages back saying that many of the Mansurs have maintained their Venezuelan citizenship.  From what I could determine, Jossy most likely has citizenship in three countries.  This enables him to own businesses in all three countries plus the US, where the Mansurs have several businesses in Miami.  Jossy is Aruban by birth and Venezuelan through the citizenship of his parents.  If an individual is born in Aruba and lives there for a specific number of years, that person is also eligible for citizenship in the Netherlands without giving up any other citizenship for which they are eligible.  While I was doing this research, I also learned another tidbit that angers the Arubans.  Dutch citizens living on Aruba are exempt from some of the taxes that Arubans are required to pay.

   Now that's just plain mean right there!  It really does pay to be Dutch in Aruba.

[klaasend]

Was that a drive by?  Just come and make posts to shake the cage and leave?   

I was waiting for someone to say something.That is funny.Was that what we consider the first Drive-by post!Drive-by post.Coined by MuffyBee..

I liked Wreck's "put up or shut up".   I was also wondering since some know things we (you and I, the common monkeys) cannot be told, what are we, chopped liver?!

Exactly Muffy.  The rest of us are worthy of discussions that go on in private forums such as Goldmonkey's private area and Chatngrumble    Seems like alot of big egos in these private forums, I'd hate to be around when they start eating their own.

[klaasend]

Tamikosmom posted:
<snip>
Yap ... do you have information to the contrary.

Janet

______


Janet, actually I do. I would rather not go in to it here. You are welcome to get my email address from Klaas.

Why is it you rather not go into it here?  You brought it up.....Why offer your email through Klaas to Janet?  Is it because she asked?  I just don't get it...and I did read Klaas's post before starting mine.

 

I never requested Yap's email from Klaas.  Please check with Klaas prior to insinuating.

Janet

I think she was responding to Yapperz not you Janet.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Tamikosmom posted:
<snip>
Yap ... do you have information to the contrary.

Janet

______


Janet, actually I do. I would rather not go in to it here. You are welcome to get my email address from Klaas.

Why is it you rather not go into it here?  You brought it up.....Why offer your email through Klaas to Janet?  Is it because she asked?  I just don't get it...and I did read Klaas's post before starting mine.

 

I never requested Yap's email from Klaas.  Please check with Klaas prior to insinuating.

Janet

Janet, I was speaking to Yapperz....she offered her email to you through Klaas.  Please read the post and do not accuse me of insinuating.  We do speak the same language. 

 

[Artcolley]

Was that a drive by?  Just come and make posts to shake the cage and leave?   

I was waiting for someone to say something.That is funny.Was that what we consider the first Drive-by post!Drive-by post.Coined by MuffyBee..

I liked Wreck's "put up or shut up".   I was also wondering since some know things we (you and I, the common monkeys) cannot be told, what are we, chopped liver?!

Exactly Muffy.  The rest of us are worthy of discussions that go on in private forums such as Goldmonkey's private area and Chatngrumble    Seems like alot of big egos in these private forums, I'd hate to be around when they start eating their own.

Some are already chewing, 

[Tamikosmom]

Tamikosmom posted:
<snip>
Yap ... do you have information to the contrary.

Janet

______


Janet, actually I do. I would rather not go in to it here. You are welcome to get my email address from Klaas.

Why is it you rather not go into it here?  You brought it up.....Why offer your email through Klaas to Janet?  Is it because she asked?  I just don't get it...and I did read Klaas's post before starting mine.

 

I never requested Yap's email from Klaas.  Please check with Klaas prior to insinuating.

Janet

Janet, I was speaking to Yapperz....she offered her email to you through Klaas.  Please read the post and do not accuse me of insinuating.  We do speak the same language. 

 

 

Why is it you rather not go into it here?  You brought it up.....Why offer your email through Klaas to Janet?  Is it because she asked?  I just don't get it...and I did read Klaas's post before starting mine.

[Edward]

Very interesting stuff..

first one: Marlex,
Marlex is a trademarked name for "crystalline polypropylene" and "high-density polyethylene" (HDPE). These plastics were invented by J. Paul Hogan and Robert Banks, two research chemists at the Phillips Petroleum company.

Marlex was used by Wham-O for their Hula Hoops in the 1950s, which helped create a market for this plastic. It is now used surgically as a reinforcing mesh in inguinal hernia repair.


Which is
Same company as Phillip Morris tobacco.

Right Up their ally



The most interesting thing was Josy saying he was Born in Aruba..
Which makes him an Aruban national citizen.
His holding Dutch citizenship is something I wonder about.
Also the amount of books he has written makes him a sort of genius. How Many people write Dictionaries ?
All very interesting

Edward - Many months ago, I spent days researching this in Shango.  It was prompted by something that I had read in the same article that was posted a few pages back saying that many of the Mansurs have maintained their Venezuelan citizenship.  From what I could determine, Jossy most likely has citizenship in three countries.  This enables him to own businesses in all three countries plus the US, where the Mansurs have several businesses in Miami.  Jossy is Aruban by birth and Venezuelan through the citizenship of his parents.  If an individual is born in Aruba and lives there for a specific number of years, that person is also eligible for citizenship in the Netherlands without giving up any other citizenship for which they are eligible.  While I was doing this research, I also learned another tidbit that angers the Arubans.  Dutch citizens living on Aruba are exempt from some of the taxes that Arubans are required to pay.

   Now that's just plain mean right there!  It really does pay to be Dutch in Aruba.

Thank You for that additional info truthseeker.

[Kermit]

Klaas, I am not trying to be a P.I.T.A. & say I know things others don't or shouldn't know. I just prefer to not stir up the mud again. If Janet wants my email address, you can give it to her.

And why should Janet believe what you say in email?  Sorry but after 3 1/2 years that just doesn't cut it.  Not only that, the topic has really gone away from those photos and in another direction at the moment. I just don't get all the problem.  Either come post a rebuttle to Kermit with backup or don't. 

RIGHT NOW, the embarrassment of the Sloots appears to be making more headway than anything else including what may or may not have been in that trap.

Yeahhhh baby. I'll in for nothing but saying the truth right here in the open.

Then everyone can decide and make up their own minds.

[Tamikosmom]

Tamikosmom posted:
<snip>
Yap ... do you have information to the contrary.

Janet

______


Janet, actually I do. I would rather not go in to it here. You are welcome to get my email address from Klaas.

Why is it you rather not go into it here?  You brought it up.....Why offer your email through Klaas to Janet?  Is it because she asked?  I just don't get it...and I did read Klaas's post before starting mine.

 

I never requested Yap's email from Klaas.  Please check with Klaas prior to insinuating.

Janet

Janet, I was speaking to Yapperz....she offered her email to you through Klaas.  Please read the post and do not accuse me of insinuating.  We do speak the same language. 

 

 

Why is it you rather not go into it here?  You brought it up..... Why offer your email through Klaas to Janet?  Is it because she asked?  I just don't get it...and I did read Klaas's post before starting mine.

Bumped

[San]

I rather be posting with the same people I have been posting with for the past three and a half years than a bunch of traitors.  People are making themselves look foolish and are no longer trustworthy to me and that means a lot in my book. 

[klaasend]

 Artcolley...yep