Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006

[SunFreak2]

So is de Vries why Joran is JORAN.ANGRY! and locked his MySpace?  Does he know is exposure is at hand?

Seems Peter de Vries is a national icon in this field.  I hope I am not getting my hopes up for nothing.  AGAIN.  

J2K will have a hearing on Nov 1 to be released as suspects.  DeVries show is around our TG. If J2K are dismissed what good will the show do?

[Grande]

Sound of waves?  Maybe near Lorenzo's?

Question:
I'm wondering exactly where did this MF "read" that there was the "sound of waves in the background", anyway ??  ( I'm rather leery, as IMO when they're making things up they go all out and dress them up in melodrama )

MF got this from Scubajap who posted it on FOB last week. Where she got it i do not know...

Okay, I will say no more about the sounds... I get the message.  

Lala's - I think the problem is this:

#1 - we don't know for sure if there really was a call

#2 - if MF and Scubajap are saying sounds of waves, then we can probably rule out "sounds of waves".

We were originally told it was the sound of a car running.  Anyone remember my post one got out to open the gate, one got out to hold the dogs and one was driving while one got the cell phone and made the call.

But i think scubajap is the source of as much disinformation as the Renfrog.

Scubajap I believe to be that Angela friend of Julia.  But since my source for that is SandraK, take it for what it is worth.

All of which are associated with Charles Croes the local Santerian.

Oh and coincidentally SandraK was the first to take credit for the Shango posts.   I understand she stated it was just a joke.  Hmmm... SandraK -associate of Charles Croes, Charles Croes - Continues to support Joran, and practices Santeria, the foundation for the Shango posts.  

Disclaimer to the Charles Croes snitch here on SM: I am not implicating anyone, simply speculating.

[Grande]

maybe the TOILET police checked already but what a simple thing to do

1. contact the school and say we would like to see the ATTENDANCE records for monday for the entire school, in particular JORAN VANDER SLOOT


2. was joran in school   YES _____  NO______

3. was he on time YES ____  NO_____

4. was he LATE ?  YES ______  NO____

i think the toilet police know that he was not there and PAULUS knows it
also

The contradictions in itself regarding this are enough to justify a warrant for arrest in this country.

[Anna]

35 degrees tonight in Atlanta.  Brrrrrrrr.

32 degrees where Gottenbos moved to.  I hope they brought warm clothes with them.

5 degrees cooler at higher elevations where I am.

I sure hope they brought their Aruban mittens and boggins!  

[robots]

maybe he will cuddle with momma

[oldfart]

But it is so much easier to trash and create fiction then to do research.
I am sure Wang Chung doesn't do any stinking research!

Yeh..I really think they must be getting paid...there just can't be that many mean/hateful people feeding on each other without some type of renumeration...They are so illogical...it makes my head hurt...at times, one has a spark of critical thinking and then BAM, the thought gets twisted and placed in the stupid bucket.

I think the main players are paid, Glenda, MF, Scubajap and a few others.  The rest are lost soles that need to feel special and part of a group.

you just NAILED it

i think the word is SHILL  

I quit donning the  wet suit (just to read there several months ago )

NOT because of the &*(*&*&_##! posted  about any & everyone  ( that BS I can wade through )
BUT...
Given "Supposed contacts and Inside Information and passion for Aruba"
that have NOT come forward with a  single hard item to dispel  even the simplest of questions(When & who went to Holland and when did they return? Where is AG's friends statement to the police about the 2:am sighting of the 2K's car on the road?)

That group is a "different mind set... (being nice)"
They do NOT care about the TRUTH!..  or ARUBA..!!(no matter what they say)
If they did they would realize that things for Aruba are not AND will not be GOOD until the TRUTH comes forward whether they like it or NOT.

Can I prove (based upon what I know) that J, 2K's, and others did anything to cause harm to Natale  ....~~~....  NO.

Could  I (by U.S.) law have " certain suspects" in court or behind bars on "Lessor" charges?  I think so.
Has Aruba or any support group asked the same questions ?  If NOT why NOT?
But that is JMO & I do  NOT understand" their System"

Until the people of ARUBA  and  the sites that blindly say
"We have done everything to find "What Happened to Natalee" and we are seeking the "Full Truth"  "do more
they can also keep this in mind when they DO NOT DO ANYTHING


Do not get me wrong
~  there are people of Aurba that care..and want the TRUTH to come forward.  We need to find a way to help that happen.

Sorry:  for the rant...

   It has been one of those days and has/ is of those  Cruel Summers / Falls for Me  
http://sg1.allmusic.com/cg/smp.dll?link=fnnvo3hcq3kx5epj52sbycn&z=MP3&r=20.asx
or for just a MIDI
http://www.hamienet.com/midi-3370.mp3
 See ya later this week.. maybe
SeeYaByee  

Justice For Natalee!

Oldfart

[Grande]

35 degrees tonight in Atlanta.  Brrrrrrrr.

32 degrees where Gottenbos moved to.  I hope they brought warm clothes with them.

5 degrees cooler at higher elevations where I am.

I sure hope they brought their Aruban mittens and boggins!  

LOL.  It's likely toasty in the Gotmanboobs master bedroom with Koen's phat azz all snuggled up with renita and alex, sweating bullets and alcohol.

[robots]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...remember when they took JORAN to the BEECH in CUFFS...

was that near the HUTS ?

[Grande]

maybe he will cuddle with momma

LMAO beat to the punch again robots!

[robots]

maybe he will cuddle with momma

LMAO beat to the punch again robots!

i will give you half credit, we will split it 50 50

 

[Lala'sMom]

Grande
Thanks for reminding me about the Croes control aspect and the Santeria connection.  I had completely forgotten about that.

[Lala'sMom]

And for what it's worth, even people in certain parts of Florida practice Santeria.

[Carnut]

Y'all do know that the Nov 1 suspect release is needed for PVDS and family to be awarded their damages don't ya?

PVDS sued on behalf of family VDS including JVDS and so JVDS needs to be release so they get their damages.

Do wonder if the K2's will get their release just to help keep them quiet.

[klaasend]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...remember when they took JORAN to the BEECH in CUFFS...

was that near the HUTS ?

Not far..it was actually right next to the Marriott.

[Carnut]

Pretty sure Nov 1 one was when KJ was preparing to leave on vacation prior to DA's office change over of personnel and her return to Holland.

[Lala'sMom]

Y'all do know that the Nov 1 suspect release is needed for PVDS and family to be awarded their damages don't ya?

PVDS sued on behalf of family VDS including JVDS and so JVDS needs to be release so they get their damages.

Do wonder if the K2's will get their release just to help keep them quiet.

Absolutely.  All parties involved will be released and then they hope to go back to being One Happy Island.

[Carnut]

Y'all do know that the Nov 1 suspect release is needed for PVDS and family to be awarded their damages don't ya?

PVDS sued on behalf of family VDS including JVDS and so JVDS needs to be release so they get their damages.

Do wonder if the K2's will get their release just to help keep them quiet.

Absolutely.  All parties involved will be released and then they hope to go back to being One Happy Island.

And again it will be a great chuckle to see family VDS ripping off the poor aruban economy even further.

Probably why the loan from Holland is being applied for.

[oldfart]

I'm gone

but saw ROBOT   Upside Down     ??? ( I think)
Just want to leave this for them



SeeYaBYeeee

[robots]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...remember when they took JORAN to the BEECH in CUFFS...

was that near the HUTS ?

Not far..it was actually right next to the Marriott.

oh,, thats right

thanks klass

[Anna]

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Grande,
OMG!  I don't remember ever reading that part about took her to the beach and "had some fun"!  I do recall very early AMDigital had in their written section that all three claimed to have had sex with Natalee.  

Now we are down to not even Joran because there were no condoms left on the island after the MB kids arrived and required all of them to hear the Dark Side's version.  LOL!!  

But the part about the beach is upsetting as I have sort of never really let my mind go there and preferred to think she lost consciousness early on and never knew what happened.  I pray to God that is what happened and I do not believe any of those involved are above having sex with a fully unconscious girl.

And I guess we do what we have to do to deal with the painful parts of this and that is my way of dealing with it.

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