Lively Case Discussion #535 10/22 - 10/23/2006

[Florida]

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject:    

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YEP.....A very creepy family!

Kawish was there that Monday after tennis at the casinos

Hey Florida,
how do u know that Kawish was at the casinos that Monday after tennis??

byebye

Welcome kbm don't run away so fast.

KBM: Why are you so easily to quote me from 10/12 ? Stick around....

[SunFreak2]

I thought of that idea the other day... before I went in the grocery store to get some odds n ends.... so I sat in the car and wrote boycott on every single paper currency I had.... and I will do it any time I get cash.

speaking of grocery stores - most have a bulletin board type area where you can post things you are selling or looking to buy.  Everyone can hang a sign with a picture Natalee and a brief desription of the case and "BOYCOTT ARUBA" on these bulletin boards.   Grocery stores are not the only place and they are free.  

theres just one idea

I made up some posters and fliers the other day in jest.  Please excuse the bottom part about asking specific people. They are 8.5" by 8" and can be printed out on card stock or heaview weight paper that just reg paper.  I updated the phones for the USA.  If you have any requests for the bottom I can put it on and send you the flyer to print for yourself.

Maybe I should write the reward amounts at the bottom.

Please, this is not harrassment of anyone, just a mock-up for a poster to be distributed across the USA.

[kbm]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

[Florida]

Could be.................

[Carnut]

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject:    

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YEP.....A very creepy family!

Kawish was there that Monday after tennis at the casinos

Hey Florida,
how do u know that Kawish was at the casinos that Monday after tennis??

byebye

Welcome kbm don't run away so fast.

KBM: Why are you so easily to quote me from 10/12 ? Stick around....

Florida have you noticed the intials KBM?

[mrs. red]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....

[San]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

You are entitled to your view.  Anything in particular that made you think this besides the statements.

[SunFreak2]

I made up some posters and fliers the other day in jest.  Please excuse the bottom part about asking specific people. They are 8.5" by 11" and can be printed out on card stock or heavier weight paper that just regular 20# paper.  I updated the phones for the USA.  If you have any requests for the bottom I can put it on and send you the flyer to print for yourself. Email me thru Klaasend.

Maybe I should write the reward amounts at the bottom.

Please, this is not harrassment of anyone, it's just a rough mock-up for a poster that can be distributed. Things do need to be shifted around someand other minor changes made.

[blah]

I thought of that idea the other day... before I went in the grocery store to get some odds n ends.... so I sat in the car and wrote boycott on every single paper currency I had.... and I will do it any time I get cash.

speaking of grocery stores - most have a bulletin board type area where you can post things you are selling or looking to buy.  Everyone can hang a sign with a picture Natalee and a brief desription of the case and "BOYCOTT ARUBA" on these bulletin boards.   Grocery stores are not the only place and they are free.  

theres just one idea

I made up some posters and fliers the other day in jest.  Please excuse the bottom part about asking specific people. They are 8.5" by 8" and can be printed out on card stock or heaview weight paper that just reg paper.  I updated the phones for the USA.  If you have any requests for the bottom I can put it on and send you the flyer to print for yourself.

Maybe I should write the reward amounts at the bottom.

Please, this is not harrassment of anyone, just a mock-up for a poster to be distributed across the USA.

this is great, do you mind if I modify it a little bit and use it at our grocery, hardware, auto parts stores, etc ????

[kbm]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....

well they could be guilty. but when it was "published" that natalee dissapeared her mother was in aruba 4hours later...normally people are not so fast in another counrty

[Carnut]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....

well they could be guilty. but when it was "published" that natalee dissapeared her mother was in aruba 4hours later...normally people are not so fast in another counrty

How long should parents wait to look for a missing daughter in another country?

[Buckeye]

Kinda O/T:  
I'm working on something...Need to know who Julia Renfro was referring to when she was on Dana's Show and "ROGER" called....to back her up and also who Patrick Bosset is.....

Why is her background so secret?  She moved to Aruba in 1990.

TIA!

Found this from Leslie.  She may remember more.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject:    

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Kermit hints that the man Julia Renfro is involved with is Patrick Boset.
I found this:
Patrick Boset has been involved with La Cage Folie restaurant since December. The famous main street retailer, he owns Mango, became a restaurateur by default. When "The 3 Little Birds" folded, Chef Marc Vullinghs has naturally become unemployed. Patrick couldn't see his favorite cook out of the kitchen and reopened the restaurant, with the chef as his partner. The third leg of this interesting combo is Michael v/d Berg, perhaps Aruba's top wine expert. Michael is responsible for an amazing wine list, we counted six pages, with exquisite varieties from around the globe. Marc and very cute wife Angela now rule the rooftop veranda restaurant at the heart of town.
 
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[kbm]

but uhm florida still didnt awsered me on my first question.
maybe he/she is busy. but when you read can u plz awnser

[kbm]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....

well they could be guilty. but when it was "published" that natalee dissapeared her mother was in aruba 4hours later...normally people are not so fast in another counrty

How long should parents wait to look for a missing daughter in another country?

well fast...but to be in another counrty so fast and already have printed thousands of "proffesional" flyers???

[mrs. red]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....

well they could be guilty. but when it was "published" that natalee dissapeared her mother was in aruba 4hours later...normally people are not so fast in another counrty

you don't know my mom then... I think it's what any mom does especially when their child is in another country...

[AZLady]

I just wonder if the Dutch investigators and de Vries have all the newspaper articles that we have read.  Just reading the local Aruban news reports would give them many leads to follow and "suspicious unnamed substances" to uncover and identify.  Now, this is all public record, so I would have to think these people are bright enough to access the local media regarding the investigation, wouldn't you?

What evidence or items were found where?

Lighthouse/California sand dunes/Arashi Beach -
belt (8-12-05)
bits of plastic (8-12-05)
aru-bay rocks (6-10-05)
bone with flesh - said to be a donkey bone

Marriott/Fisherman's Huts
panties (6-14-05)
condoms (6-14-05)
bikini strap (6-14-05)
bone with flesh on it (7-6-05)

Colony
sunglasses (6-6-06)
VCB shirt (6-6-06)
spray bottle with suspicious substance (6-6-06)
foam with bite marks (6-6-06)
mattress with dog blood (6-5-06)

Boca Tortuga area of Arikok Park
duct tape with blonde hairs (7-17-05
fabric matching Natalee's top(7-17-05)
Shallow Grave (7-12-05)

CarlosNCharlie's
International Diamonds security tape (5-30-05)

Add to that list the videotape of Paulus, Joran, and the MB girls at the Blackjack table on Sunday night in the casino.  There's more videotape than we saw, and I'll betcha the rest shows Paulus, plain as day.

[Florida]

Of all those creepy guys....I always thoght Kawish was the cutest.
He seems to have more class than the others....I think Joran is ICK!  

[San]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....

well they could be guilty. but when it was "published" that natalee dissapeared her mother was in aruba 4hours later...normally people are not so fast in another counrty

kbm, Beth was lucky to get there so fast.  I believe it was a friends fathers private jet that allowed her to get there so fast.  She was lucky.  Natalee's dad wasn't as lucky.

[Buckeye]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

you will have to explain why you don't think so... I am curious...because I totally believe those three are guilty....

well they could be guilty. but when it was "published" that natalee dissapeared her mother was in aruba 4hours later...normally people are not so fast in another counrty

It was actually about 12 hrs. after they were notified.  And wasn't the whole arrival a BIG surprise....hardly any time to get all those ducks covered.  Not everyone operates on island time..

[blah]

haha okee

Welcome back.  Tell us your thoughts on the case.

uhm i dont have allot of time now
but i think that maybe the suspects are not guilty.
and maybe in the beginning they made false statements because they didnt knew what was happining. but thats my view

I find it impossible to find anything that could possibly justify all of the lies and actions of not only the suspects, but many people close to them.

You are entitled to your opinion but I sure hope that you take a closer look at the statements.  Put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself what would you do if you were in that situation.

Just one quick example - would you hire lawyers right off the bat for the purpose of fighting the FBI's involvement in the case?  Think about it, the FBI is probably the BEST chance you have of proving your innocense but you are fightin to keep them out of it?  I can surley understand a guilty person doing that.

Anyhow - theres only thousands of other situations in this case, like this, that do not point to innocent people.