Lively Case Discussion #603 4/21 - 4/25/2007

[friend of monkeys]

Keep talkin' Goon Child... keep talkin'...

The more he talks the worse he sounds.. and Beth wants him to NEVER shut up!

Hey Joran,  don't accidentally blurt out what your father did after he sent you and the two Kalpukes over to the pond!

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OMG!!!!!!!!!
HEY stranger!

[Rob]

OMG!!!!!!!!!
HEY stranger!

Hey to You Stranger than me... say cheese! LOL

I heard you got a library card...LOL

[robots]

Hi monkeys! This is a drive by till later this evening. Joe Taco on court tv today ! YUCK. They said he tried to make the victim sound bad in this McGuire case. Sound familiar? I cannot stand this man, he gags me. His hair today was either greasy as hell from sweating and being dirty, or he uses an entire tube of brillcream to grease it down. He is FUGLY..in my humble opinion, of course  See you primates later this evening.

JOE T is a LOAD of DONKEY DUNG


i think he was trying to OUTDUE paulus is the SWEAT MACHINE business

take a shower JOE...please  

[robots]

JOE=LOAD  

[Anna]

JOE=LOAD  

He's not even that well off, Robots.   I may take a shower just from looking at his photo!

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[friend of monkeys]

OMG!!!!!!!!!
HEY stranger!

Hey to You Stranger than me... say cheese! LOL

I heard you got a library card...LOL

u r funny...lol...today motherboard seems not to be PMS'ing....lol
Good to seee u

  I think they are still playin hide the salami

[Rob]

How's this for ya..

The Dutch Investigators have been on Aruba for what like 10 days now? Just what are they doing? Joran's gearing up for a book tour and the Kalpoes are playing phone tag down at the ole internet cafe.. what's wrong with this picture? Paulus is hanging around the ISa with his lovely wife.. these people dont look too concerned to me. As Beth said ~ 'I saw a different man this time, one that looked much more confidant.' I think I got that some what right.

Rudy Croes thinks it's a good idea to get the Dutch involved...how bout the FBI Rudy? nahhh.. don't do that... that would uncover your lil scheme to defraud the American public and Natalee's Family.

I dont see any indications so far that anyone is doing anything to solve Natalee's case...God I hope I'm totally wrong about these guys..

They seem to be all hopped up over the Namdar thing. The way I see this guy is he is some type of Charles Croes Clairvoyant...
ahhh, I mean intermediary...he is a middle man of some sort that was trying to make a commission off of the deal, or he could be a foreign national working in some other capacity.. either way.. it got their attention..Someone was going to make some money and they cut the Dutch out.

Maybe the Dutch should apply that same sense of urgency to Natalee's case...

Oh, I can dream... it's still a free country.

[JusticeforNatalee]

"Melanie cried in Joe Tacopina's arms...."

Awwww, so *touching*

[bleachedblack]

"Melanie cried in Joe Tacopina's arms...."

Awwww, so *touching*

Joe is probably upset 'cause this is another case he won't get paid for. I would imagine it's pretty hard to collect your fee when your client gets life in prison.    

[JusticeforNatalee]

Good post, Rob.

Well, hello! Does Aruba  realize that the boycott will  naturally get stronger if the case just gets closed?!

ARUBA: YOU CANNOT JUST MOVE PAST NATALEE
IT WILL NOT WORK

[crazybabyborg]

Good post, Rob.

Well, hello! Does Aruba  realize that the boycott will  naturally get stronger if the case just gets closed?!

ARUBA: YOU CANNOT JUST MOVE PAST NATALEE
IT WILL NOT WORK

Hey Justice! Have you checked the Lounge?avatar thread? Well, here it is if you want it.  


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[adoronron]

Tamikosmom

Sorry it's taken me a bit to respond - Gotta work before I can lurk

I already knew PVDS said 4 AM the night the Holloways arrived, and he changed it to 11 AM a few weeks later, and then back to 4 AM, and then at some point made a declaration that he had taken Joran and Natalee to the HI at 4 AM.
But because that statement is his most recent statement doesn't mean it's the truth.
I know there are two witnesses claiming to have seen them around 4 AM.
I know there are assumptions that the "taped information" and the declaration about taking Joran and Natalee to the HI at 4 AM  indicate there is a taped phone conversation from that night with either Joran or PVDS talking about something related to Natalee.

I've also read the opinions on the black jack table footage and the statements by the MB students. I can agree that is likley Paulus sitting there, but I don't have proof. I do tend to go along with everyone that he was at the casino that night playing poker.

Ado

[robots]

JOE=LOAD  

He's not even that well off, Robots.   I may take a shower just from looking at his photo!

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i agree

[San]

I just checked the site meter and someone is viewing SM from Utrecht, Netherlands.  I looked to see what he was viewing and I noticed how he got to SM.  He googled Aruba Sucks .

Nice going Guido.

[Tamikosmom]

<snipped>

I've also read the opinions on the black jack table footage and the statements by the MB students. I can agree that is likley Paulus sitting there, but I don't have proof. I do tend to go along with everyone that he was at the casino that night playing poker.

Ado

If it is Paulus Van der Sloot in the casino video who is seated at the black jack table conversing with Natalee Holloway. the implications are huge .... considering both Joran and him claim that he left the casino part way through the poker game - prior to Joran going to the black jack table.

Ado, lies are created to cover the truth ... what truth would Joran and Paulus be attempting to cover?  Why is Paulus distancing himself from Natalee and ... why is Joran distancing his father from Natalee.

Janet


Joran Van der Sloot
On the Record w/ Greta
March 1, 2006

VAN DER SLOOT: .... And yes, so my dad had come with me. And halfway through, he — because my mom at the time was in Holland, halfway through, he had to go back home to my little brother because he was home alone. And I took his place at the poker tournament because I had lost earlier. So I went in and I took his place and I played for him.

VAN DER SLOOT: I remember — I remember when I first saw her. I went there, I went to the casino, the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn, to play a free poker tournament. I remember walking in there and sitting at a — playing a — first playing a poker tournament, then afterwards, when I was done, going to a blackjack table and sitting down. And I remember her and her friends coming up to the table. They sat down. They wanted to play blackjack.


Paulus Van der Sloot
Witness Statement
June 18, 2005

On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home. My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier. We had agreed that he would call me after the tournament, in order for me to come and pick him up. He did indeed call me and at approximately 23.00 hour I picked him up near the Mc Donalds in Palm Beach with my red Suzuki. We drove home and I went to bed. I presumed he also had gone to bed. Afterwards we found out that he had gone out to Carlos & Charlies without my permission

[igsigs]

From Paulus's PV (referencing the morning of May 31st.....a 3 hr. visit at the police station....)

We made a few changes in the concept with regard to factualities.

What a LOAD! (hat tip Robots )

Factualities do not change, Paulus. There is only one version of the truth.

[oldfart]

Hi Monkey  

Just checking to see if any news is being reported.

Does anyone remember the date when the beach by the Marriot was searched the 1st time?  And was this the fishermen's hut area?
Seems like some radio station broke the story & everyone was there digging up the beach before the police could show up.

As for the Black Jack table and it being Paulis.... I would have thought one of the MB kids at the table would have pointed that out once they saw Paulis on MSM.

[klaasend]

"Melanie cried in Joe Tacopina's arms...."

Awwww, so *touching*

Joe is probably upset 'cause this is another case he won't get paid for. I would imagine it's pretty hard to collect your fee when your client gets life in prison.    

From her website:

http://www.melaniemcguire.com/ldf.htm

The people closest to Melanie and her family echo the same sentiment…”We just wish there was something we could do.” There IS something you can do. As you can imagine, the cost of defending yourself against charges this staggering is devastating, emotionally as well as financially. Melanie and her family have exhausted a lifetime of resources in legal fees and bail already, with nothing but more expenses to come. Not only is the fight raging in Criminal Court, but the battle continues in Family Court as well.

Melanie needs your help NOW. Donations made be made discreetly or even anonymously. For more information please contact the Legal Defense Fund Administrator, Ms. Tara Portesy, at Tacopina Law at 212.227.8877. tportesy@tacopinalaw.com.

[Tamikosmom]

I just checked the site meter and someone is viewing SM from Utrecht, Netherlands.  I looked to see what he was viewing and I noticed how he got to SM.  He googled Aruba Sucks .

Nice going Guido.

Hey San ... how can I access this site meter?

Off in about an hour to a Canuck potluck ... Vancouver Canucks against Dallas.

GO CANUCKS GO!!!

Have a good evening Monkeys.

Janet

http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/hockey/story.html?id=fa30a41b-dd74-4106-a8c8-9b6a58bd44a5&k=90199

[crazybabyborg]

Old Fart! You have something in the lounge!  

Robots: You won't usually wear one, but here's one if you want it:  

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I wouldn't want you to feel left out!

Anybody who wants one can leave a post in the avatar thread and Klaas or I will be happy to fix you up!