Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11

[KittyMom]

Here I go with wild imaginations    I wonder if DB was having a "ringy ding ding" in the camper with that Bozo

That may've been the noise the boys heard. 

I believe JI has his suspicions too.
What was that he said? 
"It might be someone who cheats on her husband?"

He sure did.  I think he's another George.  He knows the truth but he still listens to her lies. 

[yuknomenot]

Was it ever 100% confirmed that DB went wine shopping with her brother or is it possible it was this "Dane" guy in the store with her?

[Kermit]

Don't low of you all have this but I searched Starbuck's Kansas City, MO & found that not a single one is open past midnight, most are closed by 10:00 pm. Jeremy works his 2nd job at Starbuck's, right? Or no? I thought I read he didn't get home til 4:00 am...something like that?

http://www.mystore411.com/store/list_city/15/Missouri/Kansas+City/Starbucks-store-locations

Their hours are in their Details link, which is available if you click on the above link...I'm not aware of which location Jeremy works:

All Stores » Starbucks » Starbucks in Kansas City

Starbucks - Kansas City -- 135th & State Line   13121 State Line Road   816-941-2873   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- 41st & Main   4101 Main Street   816-960-4592   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Balls Foods - Kansas City #11   4820 N Oak TFWY   816-454-0710   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- City Center Square   1100 Main St   (816) 472-9900   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Country Club Plaza   302 Nichols Rd.   (816) 753-4246   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Crowne Plaza Kansas City   1301 Wyandotte St      Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Hen House Market #29 Kansas City   6238 N Chatham Ave   816-746-1400   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Hy Vee Kansas City #2   207 NE Englewood Road      Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- I-29 & Barry   6234 W Barry Rd   816-746-0901   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- MCI - KC Term A Food Court   241 Paris St   816-243-5700   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- MCI - KC Term B Food Crt   241 Paris St   816-243-5700   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- MCI - KC Term C Column 38-40   241 Paris St   816-243-5700   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- MCI Kansas City Intl Term B Upper   Rome Circle      Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Super Target Kansas City ST-1840   1201 W 136th St   816-412-0108   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Super Target-Kansas City T-1455   9220 NE Barry Rd   816-781-4238   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Target Kansas City NW T-2423   9040 NW Skyview Ave   (816) 410-2940   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- W. 39th Street   1701 W. 39th Street   816-561-2850   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Ward Parkway   8600 Ward Parkway   816-363-1500   Detail

4101 Main st kansas city is where Jeremy was working

THIS IS A GREAT MAP, CLICK ON IT AND YOU CAN SEE THE IRWIN HOME FRONT YARD AND THEN WHERE JEREMY TRAVELED TO STARBUCKS FOR HIS OVER-NIGHT SHIFT


http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3620+N+Lister+Ave,+Kansas+City,+MO+64117&daddr=4101+Main+st+kansas+city&hl=en&ll=39.105554,-94.553833&spn=0.134805,0.22419&sll=39.103157,-94.516068&sspn=0.13481,0.22419&geocode=FdyIVQIdG6Zd-ikZCMRTg_nAhzE-9Hve-T8YMQ;FXrgUwIdXrtc-iktyfGpw-_AhzFRrIuXUFpYhw&vpsrc=0&mra=ls&t=h&z=12
http://g.co/maps/upk7c
credit to: Sins Angel
http://www.psychiccrimefighter.com/forum/general-2/lisa-irwin-missing-10-4-11-kansas-city-missouri/page_27/#post88968


Starbucks Coffee
4101 Main St, Kansas City, MO 64111
http://cbk2.google.com/cbk?output=thumbnail&cb_client=maps_sv&thumb=2&thumbfov=60&ll=39.051386,-94.586018&cbll=39.051385,-94.586422&thumbpegman=1&w=300&h=118
http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Starbucks.Coffee.816-960-4592

[MuffyBee]

Was it ever 100% confirmed that DB went wine shopping with her brother or is it possible it was this "Dane" guy in the store with her?

There is a store video and some of it, plus still shots have been posted here at Scared Monkeys.   Have you looked at those?  I'm sure LE has the whole video and could enhance it to make it clearer. 

[trimmonthelake]

Was it ever 100% confirmed that DB went wine shopping with her brother or is it possible it was this "Dane" guy in the store with her?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056649/Missing-Baby-Lisa-Irwin-Deborah-Bradley-went-bed-drunk-night-girl-vanished.html
 ::snipping2::
At 4.30pm, Ms Bradley and her brother Phillip Netz, visited a store to buy a box of wine and baby supplies, while Mr Irwin stayed with the children.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056649/Missing-Baby-Lisa-Irwin-Deborah-Bradley-went-bed-drunk-night-girl-vanished.html#ixzz1d7VMSN8a

[MuffyBee]

Was it ever 100% confirmed that DB went wine shopping with her brother or is it possible it was this "Dane" guy in the store with her?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056649/Missing-Baby-Lisa-Irwin-Deborah-Bradley-went-bed-drunk-night-girl-vanished.html
 ::snipping2::
At 4.30pm, Ms Bradley and her brother Phillip Netz, visited a store to buy a box of wine and baby supplies, while Mr Irwin stayed with the children.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056649/Missing-Baby-Lisa-Irwin-Deborah-Bradley-went-bed-drunk-night-girl-vanished.html#ixzz1d7VMSN8a

Thank you for providing the links Trimmy.  After I posted my reply, I went to go find the links.  I need more coffee.  DST is killing me... 

[trimmonthelake]

Was it ever 100% confirmed that DB went wine shopping with her brother or is it possible it was this "Dane" guy in the store with her?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056649/Missing-Baby-Lisa-Irwin-Deborah-Bradley-went-bed-drunk-night-girl-vanished.html
 ::snipping2::
At 4.30pm, Ms Bradley and her brother Phillip Netz, visited a store to buy a box of wine and baby supplies, while Mr Irwin stayed with the children.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056649/Missing-Baby-Lisa-Irwin-Deborah-Bradley-went-bed-drunk-night-girl-vanished.html#ixzz1d7VMSN8a

Thank you for providing the links Trimmy.  After I posted my reply, I went to go find the links.  I need more coffee.  DST is killing me... 

YW,and me too. 

[Titch]

Don't low of you all have this but I searched Starbuck's Kansas City, MO & found that not a single one is open past midnight, most are closed by 10:00 pm. Jeremy works his 2nd job at Starbuck's, right? Or no? I thought I read he didn't get home til 4:00 am...something like that?

http://www.mystore411.com/store/list_city/15/Missouri/Kansas+City/Starbucks-store-locations

Their hours are in their Details link, which is available if you click on the above link...I'm not aware of which location Jeremy works:

All Stores » Starbucks » Starbucks in Kansas City

Starbucks - Kansas City -- 135th & State Line   13121 State Line Road   816-941-2873   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- 41st & Main   4101 Main Street   816-960-4592   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Balls Foods - Kansas City #11   4820 N Oak TFWY   816-454-0710   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- City Center Square   1100 Main St   (816) 472-9900   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Country Club Plaza   302 Nichols Rd.   (816) 753-4246   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Crowne Plaza Kansas City   1301 Wyandotte St      Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Hen House Market #29 Kansas City   6238 N Chatham Ave   816-746-1400   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Hy Vee Kansas City #2   207 NE Englewood Road      Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- I-29 & Barry   6234 W Barry Rd   816-746-0901   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- MCI - KC Term A Food Court   241 Paris St   816-243-5700   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- MCI - KC Term B Food Crt   241 Paris St   816-243-5700   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- MCI - KC Term C Column 38-40   241 Paris St   816-243-5700   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- MCI Kansas City Intl Term B Upper   Rome Circle      Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Super Target Kansas City ST-1840   1201 W 136th St   816-412-0108   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Super Target-Kansas City T-1455   9220 NE Barry Rd   816-781-4238   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Target Kansas City NW T-2423   9040 NW Skyview Ave   (816) 410-2940   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- W. 39th Street   1701 W. 39th Street   816-561-2850   Detail
Starbucks - Kansas City -- Ward Parkway   8600 Ward Parkway   816-363-1500   Detail

4101 Main st kansas city is where Jeremy was working

THIS IS A GREAT MAP, CLICK ON IT AND YOU CAN SEE THE IRWIN HOME FRONT YARD AND THEN WHERE JEREMY TRAVELED TO STARBUCKS FOR HIS OVER-NIGHT SHIFT


http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3620+N+Lister+Ave,+Kansas+City,+MO+64117&daddr=4101+Main+st+kansas+city&hl=en&ll=39.105554,-94.553833&spn=0.134805,0.22419&sll=39.103157,-94.516068&sspn=0.13481,0.22419&geocode=FdyIVQIdG6Zd-ikZCMRTg_nAhzE-9Hve-T8YMQ;FXrgUwIdXrtc-iktyfGpw-_AhzFRrIuXUFpYhw&vpsrc=0&mra=ls&t=h&z=12
http://g.co/maps/upk7c
credit to: Sins Angel
http://www.psychiccrimefighter.com/forum/general-2/lisa-irwin-missing-10-4-11-kansas-city-missouri/page_27/#post88968


Starbucks Coffee
4101 Main St, Kansas City, MO 64111
http://cbk2.google.com/cbk?output=thumbnail&cb_client=maps_sv&thumb=2&thumbfov=60&ll=39.051386,-94.586018&cbll=39.051385,-94.586422&thumbpegman=1&w=300&h=118
http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Starbucks.Coffee.816-960-4592

Thanks! So since this was his 2nd job, is it safe to say he wasn't working as an electrician for Starbuck's? I'm just wondering what a person would do at a Starbuck's that early in the morning knowing it's not a holiday where some stores are open 24 hours or a warehouse club that does their stocking of shelves in the wee hours of the morning. What was Jeremy doing? Cleaning? Inventory? Starbuck's are not huge coffee houses, which is why I'm
So fascinated by this.

So, according to the address you provided, here's the info on their hours...but it's true that le verified he worked til 3:00 or 3:30? I'm clueless, like I said I haven't followed this case...only trying to help you guys. 

http://www.mystore411.com/store/view/29782/Starbucks-Kansas-City

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[Girlzrock]

Good Morning. Not really up on the case, just dropping by to see what everyone is talking about.... but my two cents about late night at Starbucks.  My husband works in the trades and often busy stores will have trade work done while  they are closed at night.....

[MuffyBee]

Titch -  It's been established Jeremy was doing work as an electrician  at Starbucks the night Lisa disappeared.  He wasn't serving coffee.  You might want to look through the threads or do searches here.  It might save you a lot of work, and there was already a lot of discussion on the subject.  

[Titch]

Good Morning. Not really up on the case, just dropping by to see what everyone is talking about.... but my two cents about late night at Starbucks.  My husband works in the trades and often busy stores will have trade work done while  they are closed at night.....

Right, my husband does, too. I'm only wondering what he dies for Starbuck's, though, bc it was said ge works his 2nd job for extra money...Starbuck's being that 2nd job. He probably works as much as he can bc he said money was tight. But how could he work a 2nd job doing electrical work? Wouldn't he be fired from his full-time job as an electrician if that were the case? I'm only using my husband as a comparison, as he wouldn't be allowed to moonlight doing the same type of work that he does for his full day job. I literally have no idea. When I worked for CitiBank, if I took a part time job as a teller for another bank, I'd be fired in the spot, even though I worked in investments. It's probably something insignificant anyway, just trying to gather info as fast as I can hahaha!

[MuffyBee]

Good Morning. Not really up on the case, just dropping by to see what everyone is talking about.... but my two cents about late night at Starbucks.  My husband works in the trades and often busy stores will have trade work done while  they are closed at night.....

Right, my husband does, too. I'm only wondering what he dies for Starbuck's, though, bc it was said ge works his 2nd job for extra money...Starbuck's being that 2nd job. He probably works as much as he can bc he said money was tight. But how could he work a 2nd job doing electrical work? Wouldn't he be fired from his full-time job as an electrician if that were the case? I'm only using my husband as a comparison, as he wouldn't be allowed to moonlight doing the same type of work that he does for his full day job. I literally have no idea. When I worked for CitiBank, if I took a part time job as a teller for another bank, I'd be fired in the spot, even though I worked in investments. It's probably something insignificant anyway, just trying to gather info as fast as I can hahaha!

Titch - it was established Jeremy was working as an electrician at the Starbucks the night Lisa disappeared.  If you go back to some of the earlier threads, you'll see the discussion.  As far as the how that would affect his first job and such, I don't know.  I can go find some links if you need me to.

[Titch]

Titch -  It's been established Jeremy was doing work as an electrician  at Starbucks the night Lisa disappeared.  He wasn't serving coffee.  You might want to look through the threads or do searches here.  It might save you a lot of work, and there was already a lot of discussion on the subject.  

Omg I didn't even realize it was knowledge. I still wonder how he could do that, though, considering his trade. I should have looked through the threads. Going to the first one now. Before I go, is there anything that stands out that should be looked into? Something being questioned?

[trimmonthelake]

http://fox4kc.com/2011/11/08/kc-forum-p-i-gives-insight-into-baby-lisa-case/
KC Forum: P.I. Gives Insight Into Baby Lisa Case
8:39 am, November 8, 2011, by Kathy Quinn
This week on KC Forum, FOX 4′s Kathy Quinn talks about the new exhibit at Union Station, “America I Am.”  She also talks to Private Investigator Ron Rugen, gives some insight into the ongoing search for Baby Lisa Irwin, missing for more than a month.
 ::snipping2::


http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn
jimspellmancnn jim spellman
Good morning #babylisa watchers. Getting our reports prepared for @HLNTV today. I'll tweet out an exact time a bit later.
7 minutes ago

[Titch]

Muffy, sorry I was responding to your comment as you were responding to mine. 

I'm going to the first thread right now. Also, I did a neighbor search of everyone around their house. I only noted their addresses & names. If you want me to post it just let me know, but several people haven't been mentioned so I'm Leary of posting as they're all probably just innocent bystanders to all this crap unfolding.

[flutter1]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Lisa-Irwin/290185081005988

Seems jim spellman posted on this Facebook.says he will have some news tomorrow.
So maybe this is true? Admin of this site said Debbie was this persons danes lover ...
 Guess we may here about it tomorrow?!

Lovers, well that opens up possibilities...maybe db did call "dane" at 8:30 and they had a fight, and he knew she was blotto drunk and came late / later and took lisa out of revenge to get back at db?  just putting ideas out...

If this guy is as bad as his sometimes self-proclaimed reputation, I am surprised that there isn't anything on Missouri CaseNet under his name.  I guess it could be an alias, he has about 5 siblings all with different last names.  Just strange that he doesn't seem to have any kind of police record.   

[MuffyBee]

Titch -  It's been established Jeremy was doing work as an electrician  at Starbucks the night Lisa disappeared.  He wasn't serving coffee.  You might want to look through the threads or do searches here.  It might save you a lot of work, and there was already a lot of discussion on the subject.  

Omg I didn't even realize it was knowledge. I still wonder how he could do that, though, considering his trade. I should have looked through the threads. Going to the first one now. Before I go, is there anything that stands out that should be looked into? Something being questioned?

I know you're trying to get back up to speed Titch. I don't want to discourage you from asking questions or researching.  I just didn't want you to spend a lot of time trying to research something that has already been established, unless of course you have questions about it, and sometimes we do. I thought maybe you should look at what's been posted first.  If you're starting back at the first thread, it's going to take you awhile.  We went through a lot with this case already.  You may be able to catch up on some stuff in some of the other threads such as the ones that have videos and tweets and news links.  I tried to get those started, but it takes a lot of time to keep them up, especially since this isn't the only case I've been following.  It's great when some of our monkeys help put info over there.  Searching takes a lot of time, doesn't it? 

[Titch]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Lisa-Irwin/290185081005988

Seems jim spellman posted on this Facebook.says he will have some news tomorrow.
So maybe this is true? Admin of this site said Debbie was this persons danes lover ...
 Guess we may here about it tomorrow?!

Lovers, well that opens up possibilities...maybe db did call "dane" at 8:30 and they had a fight, and he knew she was blotto drunk and came late / later and took lisa out of revenge to get back at db?  just putting ideas out...

If this guy is as bad as his sometimes self-proclaimed reputation, I am surprised that there isn't anything on Missouri CaseNet under his name.  I guess it could be an alias, he has about 5 siblings all with different last names.  Just strange that he doesn't seem to have any kind of police record.   

From what I gather, it's an alias. I think he has multiple aliases, as least 2 that were posted on that Justice fb page. Is the other one THK? I forget. I also read that his gf uses aliases as well. This story is heating up so erroneous info could be coming in from all over, so who knows what's true or false...ya know? One thing's for sure & that's the fact that this dude says he likes drugs & he could care less what anyone else thinks.

[StarMonkey]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Lisa-Irwin/290185081005988

Seems jim spellman posted on this Facebook.says he will have some news tomorrow.
So maybe this is true? Admin of this site said Debbie was this persons danes lover ...
 Guess we may here about it tomorrow?!

Lovers, well that opens up possibilities...maybe db did call "dane" at 8:30 and they had a fight, and he knew she was blotto drunk and came late / later and took lisa out of revenge to get back at db?  just putting ideas out...

If this guy is as bad as his sometimes self-proclaimed reputation, I am surprised that there isn't anything on Missouri CaseNet under his name.  I guess it could be an alias, he has about 5 siblings all with different last names.  Just strange that he doesn't seem to have any kind of police record.   

I heard its not his given name. There's a protective ordr against him in June I hear but I havnt seen it.
I'm wondering now if maybe Samantha called frm debbies phone maybe she was the one cheating w this guy? I.hope we here something today like jim s said we would .

[Titch]

Titch -  It's been established Jeremy was doing work as an electrician  at Starbucks the night Lisa disappeared.  He wasn't serving coffee.  You might want to look through the threads or do searches here.  It might save you a lot of work, and there was already a lot of discussion on the subject.  

Omg I didn't even realize it was knowledge. I still wonder how he could do that, though, considering his trade. I should have looked through the threads. Going to the first one now. Before I go, is there anything that stands out that should be looked into? Something being questioned?

I know you're trying to get back up to speed Titch. I don't want to discourage you from asking questions or researching.  I just didn't want you to spend a lot of time trying to research something that has already been established, unless of course you have questions about it, and sometimes we do. I thought maybe you should look at what's been posted first.  If you're starting back at the first thread, it's going to take you awhile.  We went through a lot with this case already.  You may be able to catch up on some stuff in some of the other threads such as the ones that have videos and tweets and news links.  I tried to get those started, but it takes a lot of time to keep them up, especially since this isn't the only case I've been following.  It's great when some of our monkeys help put info over there.  Searching takes a lot of time, doesn't it? 

Darn right it takes slot of time...but it's worth it to do it the right way. I'm gonna start in the first one anyway bc I seriously know nothing about thus case except that baby Lisa's mom & cohorts are questionable. I habve all day today & most of tonight, so I'd rather do it from the beginning. Life outside of here has been uber busy & I'm feeling like I let you guys down. Muffy, everybody here makes us all feel like a team, like we do make a difference, even though the majority of us know real names behind monikkers or what us monkeys look like. That's special. So yeah, going back to the beginning before I give everyone a headache. Gotta log off my cell then login the computer.