Natalee Case Discussion #755 5/31 - 6/5/08

[Bearlyhere]

Klaas, Red, someone,

Clean up in aisle one "aruba police."

Calling our Klaas, Calling our Klaas!!!

[Bearlyhere]

Has anyone figured out why CAPS was looking for Gay Royal from Kentucky?   

Not sure but I think we found the info he was looking for.

I do know that when you type in "gay royal" in a google search you come up with some interresting hits, lol 

You don't want to do that search in the dark.  I thought I was going to get raided any second.

   

[Bearlyhere]

Klaas, Red, someone,

Clean up in aisle one "aruba police."

Calling our Klaas, Calling our Klaas!!!

She must be hitting the bubbly.
(Bath I mean)

[Observer]

Klaas, Red, someone,

Clean up in aisle one "aruba police."

Calling our Klaas, Calling our Klaas!!!

She's a nighty night already..Whats up?

[Bearlyhere]

Klaas, Red, someone,

Clean up in aisle one "aruba police."

Calling our Klaas, Calling our Klaas!!!

She's a nighty night already..Whats up?

I put the wrong post in the aruba police on the front page.
     

[Observer]

Klaas, Red, someone,

Clean up in aisle one "aruba police."

Calling our Klaas, Calling our Klaas!!!

She's a nighty night already..Whats up?

I put the wrong post in the aruba police on the front page.
     

Ahh can't help ya there..Only Klaas or Red..But if you type her on a note on the FP, she will see it when she gets up.. 

Night All 

[Observer]

Caesu..Anything interesting in this post? TIA

http://www.pim-fortuyn.nl/pfforum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=38975

[Bearlyhere]

Klaas, Red, someone,

Clean up in aisle one "aruba police."

Calling our Klaas, Calling our Klaas!!!

She's a nighty night already..Whats up?

I put the wrong post in the aruba police on the front page.
     

Ahh can't help ya there..Only Klaas or Red..But if you type her on a note on the FP, she will see it when she gets up.. 

Night All 

Thanks Big O

Nite!

    

[caesu]

Caesu..Anything interesting in this post? TIA

http://www.pim-fortuyn.nl/pfforum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=38975

it alleges that the son of a high justice official (PvdS) is about to be blamed for the disappearance.

then an article about drugs trade from columbia via curaçao.

and an article about a simular affair like the IRT-affair but then on a smaller scale.

> but it doesn't connect anything with eachother.


and here it only says that bigger forces might be playing a role.
drugstrade Colombia,Venzuela to the Corpus Christi Houston - Texas.

and that PvdS isn't very pro-USA (doesn't help fighting the drugs trade).

so the USA wants PvdS removed (by blaming the missing Natalee on Joran).

http://www.pim-fortuyn.nl/pfforum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=37548&whichpage=5

that theory is kind of new to me (the USA wanting PvdS removed).
but they don't back it up.

[finngirl]

Reply #746 on: May 31, 2008, 03:23:31 AM/previous thread

Thanks Finngirl...so it is possible that Geraldo is the one that first brought up the ATM withdrawals by Paulus....hmmmm.

YW 

wish I knew what was behind that "hmmmm" ...

[Peaches]

There was a very wealthy man in our little town.  He had a lovely wife
and four teenage children.  He had an affair with a girl in her 20's.
The affair continued and everybody knew about it.  The girlfriend even
had a baby.  It seemed as though there were no consequences for him.
The wife finally filed for divorce.  He faught and didn't want her to get
anything like what she deserved.  The divorce papers were on his desk
and he decided to go to his yatch for the weekend and go over the
divorce papers when he returned.  He went jogging on the beach in just
his swim trunks, had a massive anuerism and died right there on the beach.
He had no identification on him and he stayed in the morgue in Destin for
four days as a "John Doe".  He had not signed the divorce papers and the wife
got everything.
Everything in the Lord's time.

Good things come to those that wait.

Great story

[johan555]

Wy was Joran sleeping at school so often and not at home ?

[Bearlyhere]

Wy was Joran sleeping at school so often and not at home ?

The test he aced was "Which mattress in school is the firmest?"

[KarmaRoundUp]

Notice the 2nd paragraph under the red arrow says EX DEA agent Eric Williams.....so Eric wasn't on some kinda undercover operation while on aruba?

That's enough top give one the heebie jeebies. Everone who hangs around the Aruba government long enough gets corrupted. Eric Williams sure disappeared fast after he supposedly "helped' the family that night.

That's for sure.I wonder if Beth and Jug actually saw his DEA or whatever ID bage or if they were just told he was DEA.

[MumInOhio]

Reply #746 on: May 31, 2008, 03:23:31 AM/previous thread

Thanks Finngirl...so it is possible that Geraldo is the one that first brought up the ATM withdrawals by Paulus....hmmmm.

YW 

wish I knew what was behind that "hmmmm" ...

IIRC it was Geraldo that first mentioned a porn video and I believe that was on June 14th. No mention of it again until Freddy was arrested!

[jackb]

about the pond search -- If you're talking about the one in '05, that's one of the things Aruba was so upset with Nancy Grace for.  She asked if they were pumping it out with a bicycle pump or something and Arlene started foaming at the mouth, I think.  This was before Dr. Phil when she went completely over the edge and later, while heavily sedated, announced that Natalee just sort of vanished. 

That's all I have to add...........going back to my tree nest.   

I think that they used the same bicycle pump for the pond at Monserat.   

It was either that or a tea cup.   j/b

[Helen Back]

about PvdS:

there is a site that checks al Dutchies who work for the justice department or OM.
they follow what kind of other jobs they have. and note all controversies. or miscarriages of justice and censorship.
pretty interesting site. i checked many more names of publice prosecutors, procureurs generals and other and i found often interesting, but not directly suspicious connections.

found here under S:

SLOOT
P.A.P.J.
Den Bosch rechterplaatsvervanger (replacement judge - when there is no judge available)
C100506 Hop bijbanenregister Den Bosch (also called 's-Hertogenbosch, a provincial capital not far from Arnhem)

http://www.burojeugdzorg.nl/39.htm

it links to an article about corruption in child/youth care (children/youth with problems - abuse/violence/mental problems)
http://www.burojeugdzorg.nl/bjz17151696.htm
not sure what the actual connection with PvdS is here.
but the link is very up-to-date.
or was PvdS before he went to Aruba replacement judge there??
he didn't even pass his judge exam on Aruba? but on Aruba he was sometimes replacement judge if i remember correctly.

the main site is mainly about corruption in children/youth care and ruling by judges to put youth in such care.
http://www.burojeugdzorg.nl/

and part of the site researches connections between those judges and what kind of side-jobs they have.
(conflicts of interest possible)

maybe interesting to run other dutch/aruba judges, public prosecutors through that site, to see what comes up.
this is names starting with S http://www.burojeugdzorg.nl/39.htm
on top of the pages you can click on other letters.

here i read PvdS wrote an article in 2000 in a Aruban justice paper about "Protection against the government - state orders through administrative law, a further look"

http://catalogue.ppl.nl/DB=1/SET=4/TTL=21/SHW?FRST=23

this was in 2000. so i guess he was not in Den Bosch then.
and Joran spend most of his life on Aruba, didn't he.

all this together, might it be possible that PvdS is right now replacement judge in Den Bosch??

Caesu,

Thank you for bringing this information regarding Paulus van der Sloot.  We have had much difficulty in finding information about him, especially before he came to Aruba.  Other than a family land dispute in Boxtel, we have not much information.

I would also like to know more about Judge Rick Smid and Judge Jacob "Bob" Wit.  The site you directed us to I believe has judge Smid listed as "Smit".  Hard to tell when you can't read the language.

Since Paulus is a "failed" judge, it has been difficult for us to understand why the other "judges" and officials (Bob Wit, VocKing, Smid) have aligned themselves with him and come to his aid so often.  I believe it would be important to get the story of why Paulus failed in becoming a judge, and exactly when this happened.  He seems to be reasonable smart, and had apparently prepared for years.  Is it possible he failed in this endeavor for other reasons?

[Bearlyhere]

This is a confidential letter (part)to K Janssen
the lawyer taked about the at 11 oclock

lol, translate, please.
dennisintn

I think it says, "Ruh Roh Renee"

Thanks, Johan.

 

Notice the 2nd paragraph under the red arrow says EX DEA agent Eric Williams.....so Eric wasn't on some kinda undercover operation while on aruba?

doesn't it say "Ex DEA agent and also friend of the family"?

How can he be a friend of the family if they just met him?  They can write anything they want--it doesn't make it true.

[Observer]

Who was the AG in Aruba in 2002?
----------------------------
Mr. mr P.A.P.J. van der Sloot (50) is nominated for appointment as alternate member of the Common Court of Justice of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba. Mr. van der Sloot now works as Private Secretary to the Attorney-General of Aruba. The appointment is effective from January 1, 2003 for a period of three years.


RVD, 20.12.2002

[Bearlyhere]

I didn't know this:

Mansur, Jossy M. (1991) Dictionary English-Papiamento Papiamento-English. Oranjestad: Edicionnan Clasico Diario