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Kermit
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: kcrn on March 29, 2013, 12:01:29 AM
Quote from: Brandi on March 28, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
Quote from: Kermit on March 28, 2013, 04:52:19 PM
Juan Martinez with Katie Wick (from the Dr. Drew Show
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=446178988791582&set=pb.160510210691796.-2207520000.1364497417&type=3&theater
Kermit, I think I found the dre cleaning picture you referred to back a page or two.
Found it in the pictures in the above facebook account.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/541401_438908302851984_1082855947_n.jpg
This is a girl that is on the dr. Drew show. He calls her one of dr. Drews jurors. Not sure thst shes media in any way though.
Yes I think she is one of 2 women that is on Dr. Drew because they get into the court and then go on the show
and update Dr. Drew about the court proceedings. I don't think they work for the show, but are just following the case
and managed to get themselves on Dr. Drew.
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kcrn
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Quote from: Kermit on March 29, 2013, 01:05:22 AM
Quote from: kcrn on March 29, 2013, 12:03:34 AM
Just one more reason for the state of arizona to despise this skank. They funded her defense, i hope they dont set her free too.
kcrn,
You totally crack me up sometimes. I can't stop laughing at your use of the word skank and ho.
I cant come up with better words for her. I can come up with some worse ones
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flamom
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March 29, 2013, 12:50:03 PM »
The questions these jurors have been asking are astute . The defense has come so close to insulting thier intelligence and I hope they DO!!!
I so hope that little tiger Juan Martinez shows us more prosecutorial skill ala Jeff Ashton by being repectful to this witness and turning her into a great witness for the state! Travis deserves justice...
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March 29, 2013, 02:45:42 PM »
Featured on the tv series lockup
Prison:Estrella.Women’s Jail-Maricopa County,Phoenix,Az
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR7kE-sOyVw
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March 29, 2013, 02:50:05 PM »
I have the pic of katie and juan in color, it was posted at another forum. I think Donovan has been informing the defence of all infractions lol. For the last week jodi has been starring someone down in the. Gallery, turns out to be katie.
This isn't the first time katie has mentioned being starred down by jodi. It's speculated that this latest defence complaint is in retention of jodis video making the news of her pill popping note passing and stealing.
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Retaliation oops
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http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/03/jodi-arias-travis-alexander-sociopath-crossed-line-emails/
Concerning ja TA
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Mental break for the day, a restaurant experience correlating how Jodi acts in court.…Arias and Prosecutor Juan Martinez. Arias as the waitress, Prosecutor Juan Martinez as the customer.
So can you picture Jodi at her waitressing job waiting on Martinez?
M: I’d like a hamburger medium rare please.
J: Describe Medium for me.
M; Not over done
J: What do you mean by rare?
M: Just a wee bit pink in the middle.
J: I’m sorry, can you repeat that.
M: A hamburger medium rare please. How long will that take?
J: It shouldn’t take too long.
M: Well, How long? How many minutes?
J: How many Minutes for what?
M: How many minutes before my medium rare hamburger will be ready. Ready meaning in front of me ready to eat.
J: Uhmmmm It should be ready before my shift ends, but not before the people seated behind you leave.
M: Well how long will that be?
J: If I had to guess, I would say 15 minutes.
M: Okay. So in 15 minutes I will have a hamburger right?
J: Yes.
M: Can I get fries too please.
J: We have many fries, can you be more specific.
M: Okay, I would like steak fries.
J: Uhhhmmmmm But you didn’t order steak.
M: I know, I ordered a hamburger, I would like the steak fries, the style of fries with my order.
J: Uhhmmmm what order? The hamburger?
M: Yes
J: Okay, I guess.
M: I don’t want you to guess. Can I get steak fries with my hamburger?
J: Yes
M: Can I get a drink too? What kind of drinks do you have?
J: Here at the restaurant? Or the drinks I have at home.
M: Here. At the restaurant. To go with my hamburger and Fries.
J: I don’t recall if I have any drinks at home. I live with my grandmother.
M: No. I need to know what drinks the restaurant serves.
J: Uhmmmm… This restaurant?
M: Yes, the restaurant where I am going to receive my medium rare hamburger and steak fries.
J: Uhmmmm I’m sorry can you repeat the question
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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March 29, 2013, 08:51:33 PM »
What was this "expert" allowed to testify regarding the contents of the emails without the defence entering the emails as evidence?
Janet
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Jodi Arias Trial - Day 38 - Part 1
Published on Mar 28, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ZunfzhpAY
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 38 - Part 2
Published on Mar 28, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q42sv8nCCYA
Jodi Arias' Domestic Violence Expert Says Email Proves Travis Alexander Was Abusive
Posted: 03/28/2013 7:34 pm EDT | Updated: 03/29/2013 7:17 pm EDT
<snipped>
LaViolette was referencing email exchanges between Arias, Alexander and his longtime friends Chris and Sky Hughes.
LaViolette was not allowed to quote from the emails and they were not shown to the jury, but she was allowed to paraphrase the content and offer her opinion on it.
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Prosecutor Juan Martinez objected to much of the defense expert's testimony, calling it was hearsay. However, the judge overruled the majority of the objections
.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/28/jodi-arias-domestic-violence-testifies-about-abuse_n_2974256.html
Did Travis Alexander abuse other women?
By Graham Winch
updated 8:09 AM EDT, Fri March 29, 2013
Domestic violence expert Alyce LaViolette's testimony rocked the courtroom Thursday when she claimed that two of Travis Alexander's longtime friends told Jodi Arias not to date Alexander, because he had a past of being abusive to women.
“They have basically advised Ms. Arias to move on from the relationship… that Mr. Alexander has been abusive to women…” said LaViolette.
Prosecutor Juan Martinez tried every way he could to object to the testimony, but Judge Sherry Stephens allowed the jury to hear it.
“And so, in this e-mail, is there information about whether or not Mr. Alexander’s closest friends thought he had issues with women?” asked defense attorney Jennifer Willmott.
“Yes, there is,” said LaViolette
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http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/03/28/live-blog-will-arias-health-derail-trial
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Quote from: loca on March 29, 2013, 08:49:18 PM
Mental break for the day, a restaurant experience correlating how Jodi acts in court.…Arias and Prosecutor Juan Martinez. Arias as the waitress, Prosecutor Juan Martinez as the customer.
So can you picture Jodi at her waitressing job waiting on Martinez?
M: I’d like a hamburger medium rare please.
J: Describe Medium for me.
M; Not over done
J: What do you mean by rare?
M: Just a wee bit pink in the middle.
J: I’m sorry, can you repeat that.
M: A hamburger medium rare please. How long will that take?
J: It shouldn’t take too long.
M: Well, How long? How many minutes?
J: How many Minutes for what?
M: How many minutes before my medium rare hamburger will be ready. Ready meaning in front of me ready to eat.
J: Uhmmmm It should be ready before my shift ends, but not before the people seated behind you leave.
M: Well how long will that be?
J: If I had to guess, I would say 15 minutes.
M: Okay. So in 15 minutes I will have a hamburger right?
J: Yes.
M: Can I get fries too please.
J: We have many fries, can you be more specific.
M: Okay, I would like steak fries.
J: Uhhhmmmmm But you didn’t order steak.
M: I know, I ordered a hamburger, I would like the steak fries, the style of fries with my order.
J: Uhhmmmm what order? The hamburger?
M: Yes
J: Okay, I guess.
M: I don’t want you to guess. Can I get steak fries with my hamburger?
J: Yes
M: Can I get a drink too? What kind of drinks do you have?
J: Here at the restaurant? Or the drinks I have at home.
M: Here. At the restaurant. To go with my hamburger and Fries.
J: I don’t recall if I have any drinks at home. I live with my grandmother.
M: No. I need to know what drinks the restaurant serves.
J: Uhmmmm… This restaurant?
M: Yes, the restaurant where I am going to receive my medium rare hamburger and steak fries.
J: Uhmmmm I’m sorry can you repeat the question
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kcrn
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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March 29, 2013, 09:21:04 PM »
Quote from: loca on March 29, 2013, 08:49:18 PM
Mental break for the day, a restaurant experience correlating how Jodi acts in court.…Arias and Prosecutor Juan Martinez. Arias as the waitress, Prosecutor Juan Martinez as the customer.
So can you picture Jodi at her waitressing job waiting on Martinez?
M: I’d like a hamburger medium rare please.
J: Describe Medium for me.
M; Not over done
J: What do you mean by rare?
M: Just a wee bit pink in the middle.
J: I’m sorry, can you repeat that.
M: A hamburger medium rare please. How long will that take?
J: It shouldn’t take too long.
M: Well, How long? How many minutes?
J: How many Minutes for what?
M: How many minutes before my medium rare hamburger will be ready. Ready meaning in front of me ready to eat.
J: Uhmmmm It should be ready before my shift ends, but not before the people seated behind you leave.
M: Well how long will that be?
J: If I had to guess, I would say 15 minutes.
M: Okay. So in 15 minutes I will have a hamburger right?
J: Yes.
M: Can I get fries too please.
J: We have many fries, can you be more specific.
M: Okay, I would like steak fries.
J: Uhhhmmmmm But you didn’t order steak.
M: I know, I ordered a hamburger, I would like the steak fries, the style of fries with my order.
J: Uhhmmmm what order? The hamburger?
M: Yes
J: Okay, I guess.
M: I don’t want you to guess. Can I get steak fries with my hamburger?
J: Yes
M: Can I get a drink too? What kind of drinks do you have?
J: Here at the restaurant? Or the drinks I have at home.
M: Here. At the restaurant. To go with my hamburger and Fries.
J: I don’t recall if I have any drinks at home. I live with my grandmother.
M: No. I need to know what drinks the restaurant serves.
J: Uhmmmm… This restaurant?
M: Yes, the restaurant where I am going to receive my medium rare hamburger and steak fries.
J: Uhmmmm I’m sorry can you repeat the question
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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March 29, 2013, 09:24:41 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
Why was this "expert" allowed to testify regarding the contents of the emails without the defence entering the emails as evidence?
Janet
<snipped by Tamikosmom>
Could it be that the communication in the emails referenced in yesterday's trial proceedings were selectively chosen by the defence ... chosen and paraphrased by the "expert" witness ... to further an agenda ... an agenda to make Travis appear to be abusive?
Why were the emails not submitted to the court as evidence? Why were Travis' ex-girlfriends not called upon as witnesses for the defence ... Travis' ex-girlfriends who could support what these alleged emails allegedly imply?
Think about the following communication between Travis and Jodi. The defence used Travis' words out of context. Jodi's response that implied consent were omitted.
Janet
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DR. DREW
Aired February 27, 2013 - 21:00 ET
<snipped>
BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
ARIAS: Do you remember that time I came to visit you when I was still working in California and I fell asleep on your chair next to your bed and you just woke me up by pulling my pants off and (EXPLETIVE DELETED) my (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I remember that was hot.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
MARTINEZ: You said you woke me up by pulling my pants off and licking my (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: You actually called him "Hottie Biscotti", correct?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: This is you sending him this text message, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: "If you`re a lucky boy and you promise to give me a good well-deserved spanking maybe you could give my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) a too much-needed pounding too. Kidding." Correct?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: And then you said, "Oh, yes. I want to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you like a dirty horny little schoolgirl," right?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: You did enjoy dressing up for him, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
<snipped>
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/27/ddhln.01.html
Jodi Arias Said She Liked 'Debasing' Phone Sex Talk With Ex-Boyfriend
Feb. 12, 2013
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But the tape also shows Arias' willingness to please Alexander, agreeing with all of his suggestions for their sex life.
The pair discussed a pornographic-type movie that Alexander would like to shoot with Arias, coming up with storylines and costumes they each could wear. He tells her he wants to take pictures of her as ejaculates on her, and Arias tells Alexander he is "so creative" for coming up with ideas for what he wanted to be a "legitimate porn."
Arias describes on the recording how she liked wearing pig-tails while the pair had sex in a bathtub, to which Alexander responded that the pigtails were "so hot."
Eventually, Arias orgasms, and Alexander tells her, "You sound like a 12 year old having an orgasm, that's so hot, like little girl."
"You're bad, you make me feel so dirty," Arias responded.
<snipped>
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-phone-sex-tape-shows-raunchy-relationship/story?id=18477130
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kcrn
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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March 29, 2013, 10:06:16 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
Why was this "expert" allowed to testify regarding the contents of the emails without the defence entering the emails as evidence?
Janet
<snipped by Tamikosmom>
Could it be that the communication in the emails referenced in yesterday's trial proceedings were selectively chosen by the defence ... chosen and paraphrased by the "expert" witness ... to further an agenda ... an agenda to make Travis appear to be abusive?
Why were the emails not submitted to the court as evidence? Why were Travis' ex-girlfriends not called upon as witnesses for the defence ... Travis' ex-girlfriends who could support what these alleged emails allegedly imply?
Think about the following communication between Travis and Jodi. The defence used Travis' words out of context. Jodi's response that implied consent were omitted.
Janet
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DR. DREW
Aired February 27, 2013 - 21:00 ET
<snipped>
BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
ARIAS: Do you remember that time I came to visit you when I was still working in California and I fell asleep on your chair next to your bed and you just woke me up by pulling my pants off and (EXPLETIVE DELETED) my (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I remember that was hot.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
MARTINEZ: You said you woke me up by pulling my pants off and licking my (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: You actually called him "Hottie Biscotti", correct?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: This is you sending him this text message, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: "If you`re a lucky boy and you promise to give me a good well-deserved spanking maybe you could give my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) a too much-needed pounding too. Kidding." Correct?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: And then you said, "Oh, yes. I want to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you like a dirty horny little schoolgirl," right?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: You did enjoy dressing up for him, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
<snipped>
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/27/ddhln.01.html
Jodi Arias Said She Liked 'Debasing' Phone Sex Talk With Ex-Boyfriend
Feb. 12, 2013
<snipped>
But the tape also shows Arias' willingness to please Alexander, agreeing with all of his suggestions for their sex life.
The pair discussed a pornographic-type movie that Alexander would like to shoot with Arias, coming up with storylines and costumes they each could wear. He tells her he wants to take pictures of her as ejaculates on her, and Arias tells Alexander he is "so creative" for coming up with ideas for what he wanted to be a "legitimate porn."
Arias describes on the recording how she liked wearing pig-tails while the pair had sex in a bathtub, to which Alexander responded that the pigtails were "so hot."
Eventually, Arias orgasms, and Alexander tells her, "You sound like a 12 year old having an orgasm, that's so hot, like little girl."
"You're bad, you make me feel so dirty," Arias responded.
<snipped>
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-phone-sex-tape-shows-raunchy-relationship/story?id=18477130
Yeah im not putting too much stock into these emails true or not. I really believe that if travis had been the abusive type, we would hear some testimony to that by some ex gf by now. The guy was a good looking single 30 something. Im sure he dated alot of girls. Not one can corroborate this abusive side of him? I find it hard to believe he was like that if noone has come forward to agree. This defense witness may be smart & a great asset to her field, but if shes that easy to fool then how smart can she be? I still dont understand how testimony about her stalking behaviors are not allowed in but jodi can say whatever she wants to about travis without proof & thats allowed in. The rules of trial dont make any sense to me.
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March 29, 2013, 10:21:21 PM »
Could it be that Jodi was the sexual agressor in the relationship? Could it be that Jodi used sex as bait in a futile attempt to hold on to Travis? Could it be that Travis fell for it hook, line and sinker?
Think about the type of agressive sex that Jodi Arias and Darryl Brewer engaged in. Think about the photo taking that happened during that sex.
Also ... it appears that Travis was confident in those recordings/texts that Jodi would be responsive to his words that appear to be degrading her when only one end of the communication is being revealed by the defence.
Janet
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
A Naive Victim?[/
b]
Jodi Arias Trial's Focus Is Graphic Sex, Not Killing
March 5, 2013
<snipped>
As Arias answered his questions about feeling pressure to accede to Alexander's sexual demands, Nurmi attempted to portray Arias as a naive victim to a man with a nearly-predatory sex drive.
Martinez, during cross-examination, pointed out that Arias had previous sexual relationships that also included various types of sex and that she was encouraging and gave consent in all of her sexual interactions with Alexander.
<snipped>
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-trial-graphic-sex-details-precedence-murder/story?id=18658243&page=2
A Previous Enthusiastic and Aggressive Sex Life
b]Jodi Arias Borrowed Gas Cans Day Before Killing Travis Alexander, Ex-Beau Says
Jan. 29, 2013[/b]
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In cross examination, prosecutors also forced Arias' former live-in boyfriend Darryl Brewer to describe his sex life with Arias as "pretty aggressive."
Brewer, 52, dated Arias for four years and shared a home with her in California for two years. ...
The pair had previously had an "enthusiastic" and "aggressive" sex life, Brewer admitted to prosecutors. They had engaged in anal sex, Arias had taken nude photos of Brewer, and Arias had purchased breast implants in 2006, he testified.
<snipped>
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-borrowed-gas-cans-day-killing-travis/story?id=18345450
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
_____
“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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March 29, 2013, 10:28:28 PM »
kcrn
The court allowing the trashing of Travis Alexander day after day after day without any credible concrete or circumstantial evidence as backup ... only the words of a liar ... does not set right with me.
Those defence "expert" witnesses are going to be left with egg on their faces
IF
the prosecutor has a "Perry Mason" witness who will refute Jodi's claims of abuse by Travis and ... who may turn out to have participated in the murder of Travis which would prove beyond a doubt that the charge of premeditation was right on.
Janet
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
What was this "expert" allowed to testify regarding the contents of the emails without the defence entering the emails as evidence?
Janet
::snipping2::
I've been thinking it is ridiculous to have the emails discussed without entering them into evidence nor having the actual author testify to what they meant and supposedly witnessed.
I think it is completely misleading how they are able to do this. I also thinks it comes into play if the author is very religions and/or conservative (not in the political way) what they mean by abuse could not be considered abuse by normal standards. (Just bringing up religion since the Mormon faith has been a large part of the trial and they seem to have conservative ideals)
Look at how Nurmi misquoted and warped what Casarez said into that she witnessed a juror seeing Martinez autographing... Obviously they have comprehension problems.
If I was a juror.. I'd wonder why the Hughes aren't testifying if they believed they witnessed abuse.... Why have the expert vaguely discuss what she thought about what she read when you can have the actual person say what they saw.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: Samantha on March 29, 2013, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
What was this "expert" allowed to testify regarding the contents of the emails without the defence entering the emails as evidence?
Janet
::snipping2::
I've been thinking it is ridiculous to have the emails discussed without entering them into evidence nor having the actual author testify to what they meant and supposedly witnessed.
I think it is completely misleading how they are able to do this. I also thinks it comes into play if the author is very religions and/or conservative (not in the political way) what they mean by abuse could not be considered abuse by normal standards. (Just bringing up religion since the Mormon faith has been a large part of the trial and they seem to have conservative ideals)
Look at how Nurmi misquoted and warped what Casarez said into that she witnessed a juror seeing Martinez autographing... Obviously they have comprehension problems.
If I was a juror.. I'd wonder why the Hughes aren't testifying if they believed they witnessed abuse.... Why have the expert vaguely discuss what she thought about what she read when you can have the actual person say what they saw.
I'm sorry if normal standards was bad wording.. I didn't mean anything badly by it.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Think about the following revealed communications between Travis and Jodi. Sexual fantasies in regards to role playing involving children were mutual. Considering there was no child pornography located in Travis residence or on his hard drive ... it would appear that his fantasies were confined to his relationship with Jodi.
Something is not right. Why does the judge allow the defence to take Travis' words out of context while omitting Jodi's words ... Jodi's words implying the fantasies were consensual.
I hope the jury gets it.
Janet
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DR. DREW
Aired February 27, 2013 - 21:00 ET
<snipped>
BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
ARIAS: Do you remember that time I came to visit you when I was still working in California and I fell asleep on your chair next to your bed and you just woke me up by pulling my pants off and (EXPLETIVE DELETED) my (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I remember that was hot.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
MARTINEZ: You said you woke me up by pulling my pants off and licking my (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: You actually called him "Hottie Biscotti", correct?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: This is you sending him this text message, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: "If you`re a lucky boy and you promise to give me a good well-deserved spanking maybe you could give my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) a too much-needed pounding too. Kidding." Correct?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ:
And then you said, "Oh, yes. I want to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you like a dirty horny little schoolgirl," right?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ:
You did enjoy dressing up for him, right?
ARIAS:
Yes.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
<snipped>
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/27/ddhln.01.html
Jodi Arias Said She Liked 'Debasing' Phone Sex Talk With Ex-Boyfriend
Feb. 12, 2013
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But the tape also shows Arias' willingness to please Alexander, agreeing with all of his suggestions for their sex life.
The pair discussed a pornographic-type movie that Alexander would like to shoot with Arias, coming up with storylines and costumes they each could wear. He tells her he wants to take pictures of her as ejaculates on her, and Arias tells Alexander he is "so creative" for coming up with ideas for what he wanted to be a "legitimate porn."
Arias describes on the recording how she liked wearing pig-tails while the pair had sex in a bathtub, to which Alexander responded that the pigtails were "so hot."
Eventually, Arias orgasms, and Alexander tells her, "You sound like a 12 year old having an orgasm, that's so hot, like little girl."
"You're bad, you make me feel so dirty," Arias responded.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-phone-sex-tape-shows-raunchy-relationship/story?id=18477130
Jodi Arias Grilled Over Pedophilia Charge, Tootsie Pop Fantasy
Feb. 21, 2013
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Martinez dwelled at one point about a journal entry where Arias wrote that she missed the Mormon baptism of her friend Lonnie because she was having kinky sex with Alexander. He drew attention to prior testimony that she and Alexander used Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks candy as sexual props.
"You're trying to get across (in the diary entry) that this involved a sexual liaison with Mr. Alexander right?" he asked.
"And you're talking about Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks?"
"That happened also that night," Arias said.
"You were there, enjoying it, the Tootsie Pops and Pop Rocks?" he asked again, prompting a smirk from Arias.
"I enjoyed his attention," Arias said.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-prosecutor-grills-alleged-lies-jealosy/story?id=18558449
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I don't know if this has been posted yet
Finding Premeditation Part 1
Check out this video on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/LoQoF-UE6I8
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Finding Premeditation Part 2
Check out this video on YouTube:
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