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Question: After the 400+ document release - what is your current opinion?
Casey killed Caylee by accident or intentionally - 75 (89.3%)
Casey gave Caylee away to friends & knows where she is - 2 (2.4%)
Casey gave Caylee away to strangers & doesn't know where she is - 4 (4.8%)
Some unknown person stole Caylee from Casey - 0 (0%)
Someone else killed Caylee & Casey is covering for them - 3 (3.6%)
Total Voters: 83

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« Reply #1420 on: August 26, 2008, 05:18:44 AM »

Was that Lee's voice or George's in the background.
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« Reply #1421 on: August 26, 2008, 05:24:51 AM »

Nevermind.
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« Reply #1422 on: August 26, 2008, 05:30:14 AM »

So,

If you read his police statement...

and then listen to what happens in  911 phone call #2

The two items do not match up.




What is even more disturbing... is after you read his police statement...

where it appears that he is distraught at the fact Caylee is missing

for 1 whole month...

HE SAYS IN THE REPORT:

Casey is always giving them vague and different answers...


& then you watch George's recorded interview with


Craig Rivera FOX Geraldo July 27th, 2008.


We were in touch... THERE WAS NEVER AN ALARM FOR CONCERN...

CASEY ALWAYS HAD "GOOD ANSWERS" as to where Caylee was.

2:30 secs time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgsfWYjCn9I
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« Reply #1423 on: August 26, 2008, 05:38:03 AM »

The cops probably want to do a commando style ATF raid on the Anthony house

by this point... just to watch old George spring a wiz-cicle!!!   


this is completely PSYCHOTIC...

it is almost like each family member acts like

a different person each day they wake up.


New day, new story.
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« Reply #1424 on: August 26, 2008, 05:49:17 AM »

More from Padilla on WS

Q: Does the current information coming out have any effect on your, or your Uncles optimism in bring Caylee home, safe?
A: It did have some impact on Leonard. I don't know if he is tired or just losing faith.

Q: Why would they release this information ? This seems very strange.
I've only gotten through the interviews with Casey and so far I haven't seen anything I wasn't expecting. For some reason it stood out that the detective told Casey that Ricardo Morales was at the station and telling them a completely different story and when she was asked if Caylee was taken without permission, it appears that she hesitates and say's that the last time she saw Caylee was with that person.
If Casey was truly a sociopath, would she really care and be so distressed that her mother would never forgive her for losing Caylee ?
A: I have no idea why they released the info. It is strange. The MOrales character is interesting. At this point I don't know what Casey cares ar doesn't care about.

Q: Do you know anything about Casey's early mystery visitor in jail... Patrick Bourgeios (sp?) and the other guy he mentioned.. Mike Walker?
A: No we don't!

Q: It is clear from reading the released papers that everyone and anyone that has had contact with Casey knows her to be a liar. Why would your uncle believe that this is the one time she would be truthful when stating that she gave her child to someone? Has he given up on the Zenaida theory?
A: Remember something here that is very important. Leonard is searching for information good or bad to get to the bottom of this massive web. Think clearly and listen to what he says and you will gain clues into his thoughts and his thinking process. Some on here have figured him out but you have to really pay attention.

Q: Right - but the evidence doesn't point to anyone else but Casey Anthony as having the means, motive and opportunity. Shouldn't your uncle be focusing on that angle and let LE investigate the other "cast of characters" given their vast resources? Just seems like he could be wasting more time and money chasing the wrong boogie man.
A: I think he has a pretty good idea of what "boogie man" to focus on. I love how you put this though. I am pasting this and sending it to Rob to show Leonard right now.

Q: I have a question that I haven't seen or maybe I missed it so bear with me. Was it ever considered for Mr. Baez to "hire" Leonard in order to give him the information he needed to locate Caylee? I ask this because privilege applies to work product and anyone working for Mr. Baez confidentiality applies.
A: Yes but Jose wants no part of it.

Q: These people have been searching for weeks..........they are the ones who found the articles of clothing and the makeup. Contact him. He needs the help.
cayleesearch@josephsjordan.com
A: Okay! It's really hard for us and the Anthony's to help search for anything. Look how much heat they took tonight because they looked around in their backyard. If they find something nobody will take it serious. They will jsut say you are protecting your daughter and consider it prejudice. They need help here on the searches. We were told to stay out of those.

Q: Another question...................according to document 1 page 28 (copy of Casey's my space page) it said her favorite book was American Psycho.........I have never read that book, but do you think there could be any hints in that book as to what happened to Caylee?
A: This needs investigating.




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« Reply #1425 on: August 26, 2008, 05:49:46 AM »


It is so bizaar that not only did Casey lie, but when given chances to correct her story, she continues the lies as if she believes what she is saying.

I think George wants to believe his g daughter is alive, but I get the feeling at this point he is not so sure.
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« Reply #1426 on: August 26, 2008, 05:55:21 AM »


Any ideas as to why the judge is allowing so much released? I don't think I have ever seen jailhouse calls released and so many statements released.
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« Reply #1427 on: August 26, 2008, 05:59:46 AM »

American Psycho

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BRET EASTON ELLIS seems, was puzzled by the universally unfavorable reception of his third novel, American Psycho. Small wonder. Ellis's all-too-obvious purpose was to write a scathing satire of Eighties materialism that was politically correct in every possible way. Patrick Bateman, the narrator of American Psycho, is a Wall Street yuppie who watches pornographic videocassettes, calls blacks "niggers" and homosexuals "faggots," and gets his after-hours jollies by killing and dismembering people. Though most of his victims are women, Bateman is an equal-opportunity psychopath, for he also butchers an aging homosexual, a homeless man, and a dog. (The dog is a particularly nice touch.) Much to his surprise, Ellis ran afoul of the feminist wing of sensitivity fascism, and subsequently received the same treatment in the popular press that Bateman's girlfriends receive in American Psycho.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n11_v43/ai_10874375
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« Reply #1428 on: August 26, 2008, 06:05:37 AM »


Any ideas as to why the judge is allowing so much released? I don't think I have ever seen jailhouse calls released and so many statements released.

Shell, from what I read, these are considered public documents in Florida and the Orlando Sentinel obtained them through a public records request. Not everything has been released but I'm not sure why or how what is released is determined.
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« Reply #1429 on: August 26, 2008, 06:10:13 AM »


It is so bizaar that not only did Casey lie, but when given chances to correct her story, she continues the lies as if she believes what she is saying.

I think George wants to believe his g daughter is alive, but I get the feeling at this point he is not so sure.

She did admit her lies when there was no way out, like at Universal. Not having an office was something the detectives could prove, right then and there. How can anyone prove what she did with Caylee? She's a sick pathological liar, Shell. Lying was a way of life for her. All her life. she lied to all her friends, her parents, everyone. Even about the simplest, stupidest things. It's Casey's way of life.
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« Reply #1430 on: August 26, 2008, 06:24:06 AM »

I have to admit that before I saw these documents, I had real concerns about what LE was doing on this investigation. I am now convinced that they are working their tails off. What has been released to the public is by no means the complete case file. I applaud the detectives and investigators for their hard work and I am confident that this case is being investigated to the fullest.
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« Reply #1431 on: August 26, 2008, 06:29:40 AM »

I have to admit that before I saw these documents, I had real concerns about what LE was doing on this investigation. I am now convinced that they are working their tails off. What has been released to the public is by no means the complete case file. I applaud the detectives and investigators for their hard work and I am confident that this case is being investigated to the fullest.

I get the same feeling. A lot is going on behind the scenes. And I do think they are looking at leads and trying to find Caylee.
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« Reply #1432 on: August 26, 2008, 06:31:52 AM »

3:30 here and all this reading is giving me eye strain. Thanks for explaining some things to me MrsK. G night ~
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« Reply #1433 on: August 26, 2008, 06:36:11 AM »

American Psycho

>>>>SNIP

BRET EASTON ELLIS seems, was puzzled by the universally unfavorable reception of his third novel, American Psycho. Small wonder. Ellis's all-too-obvious purpose was to write a scathing satire of Eighties materialism that was politically correct in every possible way. Patrick Bateman, the narrator of American Psycho, is a Wall Street yuppie who watches pornographic videocassettes, calls blacks "niggers" and homosexuals "faggots," and gets his after-hours jollies by killing and dismembering people. Though most of his victims are women, Bateman is an equal-opportunity psychopath, for he also butchers an aging homosexual, a homeless man, and a dog. (The dog is a particularly nice touch.) Much to his surprise, Ellis ran afoul of the feminist wing of sensitivity fascism, and subsequently received the same treatment in the popular press that Bateman's girlfriends receive in American Psycho.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n11_v43/ai_10874375



American Psycho

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Set in Manhattan and beginning on April Fools' Day 1987, American Psycho spans roughly two years in the life of wealthy young investment banker Patrick Bateman. Bateman, 26 years old when the story begins, narrates his everyday activities, from his daily life among the upper-class elite of New York to his forays into murder by nightfall.

Bateman comes from a privileged background, having graduated from Philips Exeter Academy, Harvard (class of 1984), and then Harvard Business School (class of 1986). He works as a vice president at a Wall Street investment bank and lives in an expensive Manhattan apartment on the Upper West Side. He embodies the 1980s yuppie culture. Through present tense stream-of-consciousness narrative he describes his conversations with colleagues in bars and cafes, his office, and nightclubs, satirizing the vanity of Manhattan yuppies.

The first third of the book contains no violence, and is simply an account of what seems to be a series of Friday nights, as Bateman documents traveling with his colleagues to a variety of nightclubs, where they snort cocaine, drink a variety of alcoholic beverages, critique fellow clubgoers' clothing, trade fashion advice, and question one another on proper etiquette.

Beginning with the second third of the book, Bateman begins to describe his day-to-day activities, which range from committing brutal violence (such as the torture of a young woman by trapping a rat in her cheese-smeared vagina) to such mundanities as renting videotapes and making dinner reservations. Bateman's stream of consciousness is occasionally broken up by chapters in which Bateman directly addresses the reader in order to critique the work of 1980s musicians, specifically Genesis, Huey Lewis and the News and Whitney Houston.

In addition to describing his daily life, Bateman also speaks at length about his love life. He is engaged to a fellow yuppie named Evelyn, though he possesses no deep feelings for anyone; additionally, he frequently solicits sex with attractive women ("hardbodies"), manipulates his secretary's feelings for him, and tries to avoid the attention of Luis, a closeted homosexual colleague who confesses his love for Patrick. Bateman also documents his relationship with his estranged family, including his senile mother, whom he visits to present with a pair of Ray-Ban Wayfarers while she lies semi-comatose in a nursing home, and his younger brother, a hedonistic college dropout (Sean Bateman, one of the protagonists from Ellis's earlier novel The Rules Of Attraction).   

As the book progresses, Bateman's grip on reality seems to begin deteriorating and his murders become increasingly violent and complex, going from simple acts of violence to drawn out sequences of torture, rape, mutilation, cannibalism, and necrophilia. He starts to randomly slip in stories about serial killers into his casual conversations, and at some points confesses these murders to his co-workers, who either react as if Bateman is simply joking with them and displaying his interest in a strange hobby, or completely misunderstand him ("murders and executions" is mistaken for "mergers and acquisitions"). As the book nears its conclusion, Bateman begins to describe such incidents as seeing a Cheerio interviewed on a talk show, being stalked by an anthropomorphic park bench, and being ordered to kill cats by a demonic ATM. These incidents both serve to demonstrate Patrick's mental state and to draw into question whether Bateman has actually committed any of the murders he has described, or whether or not he was insane from the start. At the end of the novel, Paul Owen's apartment, where he's been stockpiling the bodies he's mutilated throughout the novel reveals itself for what it was. Patrick Bateman is not a murderer. Throughout the novel he describes telling people that he's a psychopath, at one point he even vomits on someone and they pretend it never happened. Everything involving psychosis was manifested.

The incipit of the book has Bateman staring at a graffiti on a Chemical Bank building, reading Abandon all hope ye who enter here. The book ends with a scene similar to its beginning, as Bateman sits in a bar, staring at a sign that reads "THIS IS NOT AN EXIT".
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« Reply #1434 on: August 26, 2008, 06:50:42 AM »


Good morning Monkeys.
I am dumbfounded by this family and their antics and all I have been reading and although I have been very quiet lately would like to begin my day by thanking those many Monkeys that contribute to this forum.
Special thanks to Klaas - she continues to impress me in so many ways.
Special thanks to Carpe - his techie smarts and the videos he provides for all of us.
Mrskub and her efforts, digging for and providing information.  Her common sense and expression in ways my lay self can understand.  Her care and concern for a little girl, Caylee.
The Mods and their willingness to provide information and answer questions quickly whenever they can.
Destiny for her skills and for putting her money where her mouth is, and for using that same mouth to bring information back to us.
Joseph for searching.
Hall monitor - sharp wisdom, sharp pencils, sharp wit.
The list goes on . . .
I apologize for not offering more, but I appreciate being a little drop in a huge ocean.
Caylee Marie Anthony -  Your sweetness shines through. God bless.   
                             
                       T H A N K   Y O U ! 


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« Reply #1435 on: August 26, 2008, 06:55:11 AM »

G'morning Can!

...and thanks for all you do, and your great posts that come straight from the heart.
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« Reply #1436 on: August 26, 2008, 06:58:00 AM »

I have to admit that before I saw these documents, I had real concerns about what LE was doing on this investigation. I am now convinced that they are working their tails off. What has been released to the public is by no means the complete case file. I applaud the detectives and investigators for their hard work and I am confident that this case is being investigated to the fullest.
I agree, and it is reassuring.  Unfortunately it is long and painstaking work.

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« Reply #1437 on: August 26, 2008, 07:01:58 AM »

G'morning Can!

...and thanks for all you do, and your great posts that come straight from the heart.
G'morning back! 
To steal your words, I heart u!
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« Reply #1438 on: August 26, 2008, 07:02:29 AM »

What is wrong with this picture Monkeys?


Cindy Anthony: I thought Jesse was the father.


Cindy Anthony: He lives out of state and died in a car accident.


Cindy Anthony: Caylee doesn't have a father, never met him.


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YET...


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This is the transcript of the third 911 call from Cindy Anthony on July 15.

Dispatch: 911. What’s your emergency?

Cindy: I called a little bit ago. The deputy sheriff ‘s (inaudible). My granddaughter has been taken. She has been missing for a month. Her mother finally admitted that she’s been missing. I want someone here now.

Dispatch: OK, what is the address that you’re calling from?

Cindy: We’re talking about a 3-year-old little girl. My daughter finally admitted that the babysitter stole her. I need to find her.

Dispatch: Your daughter admitted that the baby is where?

Cindy: That the babysitter took her a month ago. That my daughter’s been looking for. I told you my daughter was missing for a month. I just found her today, but I can’t find my granddaughter. She just admitted to me that she’s been trying to find her herself. There’s something wrong. I found my daughter’s car today, and it smells like there’s been a dead body in the damn car.

Dispatch: Ok what is the 3-year-old’s name?

Cindy: Caylee. C-A-Y-L-E-E Anthony.

Dispatch: Caylee Anthony?

Cindy: Yes.


Dispatch: OK, is she white, black or Hispanic?

Cindy: She’s white.



........

She sure knew that information, without a moment's hesitation.


The father is damn well known. Just not known by us yet.
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« Reply #1439 on: August 26, 2008, 07:06:01 AM »

G'morning Can!

...and thanks for all you do, and your great posts that come straight from the heart.
G'morning back! 
To steal your words, I heart u!


 

I hearts ya back!!!
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