Caylee Marie Anthony #91 1/14/09 - 1/15/09

[OEJ]

I have to respectfully disagree with those that have suscpisions about Mr.Kronk. I think conspiracy theories have run amuk. I do believe Mr. Kronk, mainly because I could see the same type of behaviour from myself. Curious, going back more than once, etc...If someone analysis absolutely every move and every word someone says, they certainly can find fault! I think we will find at the end of the trial that Mr.Kronk's three phone calls end up being much ado about nothing. A distraction and that's about it. He felt blown off by LE and gave it up for awhile. Reassigned to the area, he decided to check again. To our relief and his great misfortune, he found little Caylee's body! There is no gain to the defense to have found the body. What they are doing now is spinning the discovery the best they can, but I do not believe it was part of a strategy...I think we should cut the meter man a break unless we have something concrete to pin on him. Other than that, he is just another victim getting thrown under the bus. JMHO

I completely agree with you. The media needs "Breaking news!" and "New Bombshell in the Casey Anthony Case!" every flippin' day, and this is what we end up with.

[heykim]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

In the transcripts, this psychic lady said that she is a former PI herself.. perhaps she and Dominic go way back?

It seems to be very easy to get a PI license. I have a friend in Vegas who is a mystery shopper  and she had to get a PI license to become a mystery shopper

LMAO are you kidding me??  That's hilarious. I was going to be a mystery shopper.. before I had kids.   

i was a secret shopper here in the idaho panhandle (and washington) ... and i didnt have to get a PI license to be one.(thank god)

also... i took grandson with... and was told it was good, because it made you blend in well with shoppers..

[OriginalKat]

To me honest, reliable men pay child support  

I don't think that has anything to do with him being an honest person or anyone else.
I think Kronk from the beginning has ruined his own credability because whether he was in the area working or not if he was really thinking it was Caylee or something of interest he would not have stopped for months before making that final call.

If you weren't getting anywhere with LE...call a reporter to go with you and get it done. I just think he possibly overheard something that lead him there in Aug.
Maybe the A's were in their backyard area when their meter was read and something was heard.  He backed off because he owed the child support and just was torn between being the one who found her. Let's see...maybe a reward and interviews to help payoff back child support if you go forward. Heaven forbid if anyone would think of CAYLEE before themselves or $$$.

I respectfully have to stand up for my statement...I think it goes to the character of anyone...male or female....he is trying to pertray himself as this fine unstanding citizen and I am not buying it. I beleive there is more to Kronks calls and finding Caylee's remains...and not  him just being a good citizen....granted I might be wrong and have to eat those words...but what the heck
[/quote]No need to be defending your statement Sunny. I was just saying IMO a person's debts have nothing to do with whether they are honest to me.
I bring his honesty into question also but not because he owes money to anyone.

[anothermonkey]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

In the transcripts, this psychic lady said that she is a former PI herself.. perhaps she and Dominic go way back?

It seems to be very easy to get a PI license. I have a friend in Vegas who is a mystery shopper  and she had to get a PI license to become a mystery shopper

LMAO are you kidding me??  That's hilarious. I was going to be a mystery shopper.. before I had kids.   

i was a secret shopper here in the idaho panhandle (and washington) ... and i didnt have to get a PI license to be one.(thank god)

also... i took grandson with... and was told it was good, because it made you blend in well with shoppers..

That's cool. I may have to look into it..  I could use some moolah 

[Today]

a.n.n.i.e has a reason for the smile on her face <3333333 RIP CAYLEE MARIE [ballin' (from annies myspace...



WHAT in gods green EARTH does THAT mean?

I wish I knew, I have no clue.

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

<3333333 I think it is supposed to be hearts within hearts (sideways).  Maybe you can see it better here 

[pinkbanana]

 I made it  

I could NOT get in yesterday afternoon - evening. 
I was BUSY all day today    this is the first time today since I woke up that I have time to gather my thoughts. 

So what have I missed?

Thanks

pb

[Shan1628]

a.n.n.i.e has a reason for the smile on her face <3333333 RIP CAYLEE MARIE [ballin' (from annies myspace...



WHAT in gods green EARTH does THAT mean?

I wish I knew, I have no clue.

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

A less than and a three sign together is supposed to be a heart.  Meaning LOVE  <3  You guys are funny!!!!   

[SunnyinTX]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

In the transcripts, this psychic lady said that she is a former PI herself.. perhaps she and Dominic go way back?

It seems to be very easy to get a PI license. I have a friend in Vegas who is a mystery shopper  and she had to get a PI license to become a mystery shopper

LMAO are you kidding me??  That's hilarious. I was going to be a mystery shopper.. before I had kids.   

I  swear and believe me no way could she actually function as a PI...first of call she is about 6'2" and think 'Helga'.....she is not someone who would go unnoticed!  LOL

[Hudsunn]

WHY I DOUBT THAT KRONK HAD ANY CONNECTION TO THE ANTHONYS AND NO TIPS FROM THEM ABOUT WHERE TO FIND CAYLEE.

  1.  I don't think there was any advantage to the Anthonys to have the body found.  They were busy claiming that Caylee was in another state or Puerto Rico, that she was alive out there somewhere. 
  2.  Casey had no reason to tell anyone where the body was.  It helped her case to have the possibility that Casey was still alive.  Nothing is worse for her case than finding the body and knowing for certain Caylee is dead.
  3.  The defense team would not want the body found, either.  That complicated things for them.
  4.  If Kronk and the Anthonys knew each other on any level, it probably would have come out by now.

SO HOW COULD KRONK HAVE ZEROED IN ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHEN NOBODY ELSE WHO IS UNCONNECTED TO THE ANTHONYS DID?

  1.  He does have experience as a bounty hunter, bail bondsman, etc. and those kinds of people learn a lot and hear a lot and they also think a lot about where people would hide and what desperate people do.
  2.  Some people are able to put two and two together and come up with some very reliable hunches.  He claims he had a hunch the body might be there.
  3.  He had reason to be in that area at least a couple of times and he may have reasoned that the swampy area would be the closest and the most dense place to dump a body.
  4.  The case has been so publicized, and I am sure that many people in the Orlando area have been intensely curious about it.  Some people are more curious than others and more able to see certain possibilities.
  5.  As has been posted, he could haved overheard something while reading a meter that made him wonder about the area as a dumping place.  Or he could have overheard something spoken by a neighbor of the Anthonys.
  6.  Money is a great motivator.  He may have needed money and hoped to find the body and get a reward.  As a result, he may have thought a bit more than others about where the body might be.
  7.  It is fairly well known among law enforcement and detective types, including bounty hunters, I am sure, that people who kill their children often dump the bodies close to home.  In fact, I think this case teaches a big lesson.  If a child is missing and presumed killed by the mother, look close to the home first, fan out from there.  I think LE in this case got very caught up in cell pings around the airport and other places and did not look at the areas close to the Anthony house as thoroughly as needed.
  8.  Kronk is proud of the fact that he figured this out for himself.  He may well have said to himself, "The body has not been found at the park or in the river or by the airport.  It may well be where I thought it was, in the woods close to her home.

Now, Kronk is not without his problems.  He has a somewhat checkered past.  It would be better for the prosecution if he were of lily white reputation.  But he is is not.  Still, he found the body, and that was a great help to them and to the overall case and will go a long way toward putting Casey away for life.

If he had not found the body, Casey may very well have been tried, the defense may have argued that Caylee was not dead, and a jury may have acquitted her.
 

[Iron Cowgirl]

I think also that we should remember that Kronk is involved with the Robinson's church and that Robinson was his super.  They were the ones that Cindy mentioned to Casey as being supportive.  I have no doubt that somewhere along the way he may not have gotten a "tip", but that it would have been very easy to plant a seed in his mind about looking in the area

Dang I didn't know K was involved with the Robinson's church or that he was his supervisor

I am so sorry for the misinformation, I had it mixed up, here is the link
need the monkeys opinion. tia. hope i get this all correct, it's confusing. (just like the rest of the A's)

LA & KC's jail visit july 28th

LA: i can tell you specifically, umm, Fred Robinson, has been an amazing support for our family.
KC: yeah
LA:his wife, Holly, has been a tremendous support for us, she, all of them just reference the lord alot & they want you to know that they are behind you. they refernce the lord alot and you need to utilize that as your crutch.
KC: i have been.
LA:those two in particular have used that as a platform, not only publicly (sp), but personally to voice their support, to reach out to give you strength.

(this is coming from my note, i posted it last nite a little better)

Fred Robinson address
4906 Hopespring dr

i googled Fred Robinson, i am trying to figure out how to say this 'cause i don't want to give out incorrect info, but it's soooo confusing.

Fred Robinson is owner?/president of Messiah Christian Center
PO Box 721481
Orlando, Fl 32872-1481
501(c)(3)- A religious, educational, charitable, scientific or literary organization.
organization which receives a substantial part of its support from a governmental unit or the general public.
Housing Rehabilitaion

TRANSITIONAL HOUSING

HOPESPRING HOUSE-provides participants (ages (18-23) the love, support, and guidance needed to successfully transition out of the foster care system into productive independent living. education and a safe affordable living enviroment are two of the most important needs expressed by this delicate group of young adults. With this in mind, our objective is to provide physical, emotional, financial and academic support to former foster care participants resulting in 100% of those completing the two year program making significant progress towards earning an associates degree or post-secondary education certificate.

Scott Sampson (Roy Kronk's supervisor)
4859 hopespring Dr.
listed as SECRETARY 1

Fred Robinson also has a business called Franklincomputer Consulting
titile-pres
address-4106 Eagle Feather

Lee Anthony's previous address
4148 Eagle Feather

just thought this was interesting. any monkey opinions?
hope i have this all straight 'cause i had to print everything out since i don't know how to cut 7 paste. tia.

wendi

Does anyone know if this is the pastor that visited Casey in jail?

[OriginalKat]

Even after listening to Mr. Kronk, I am not sure if he was certain there was a body there or if he suspected there was a body there or if the kinda thought a body might be there during those first calls.  Obviously on the last call, he said he saw a human skull.  But on the first ones, he is not too committed to a body being there.  It is just a possibility.

I get irritated when Nancy Grace, for two nights running, says that Dominick Casey is just feet from where Caylee was found when he is poking around the abandoned house.  The house is clearly farther away from the place the body was found than a few feet.  She gets all mixed up and nobody corrects her.

The area was very, very dense in the video taken fo Dominick Casey looking for the body.  But this psychic must be pretty good if she got him that close.  I am sure her stock will rise if it turns out she really did tell him where to look and that Caylee was definitely dead and put there.

I think that is what she is "banking" on. JMO.

Has she proven the phone call yet? Surely she and DC knew they would have to provide call records to prove their stories.

[Hudsunn]

What is a secret shopper?  someone who watches for shoplifters?

[pixiecat]

Who here would ever let Annie babysit your child? Not me!!!

I'd be afraid that after I dropped my (imaginary) children off at Annie's house, Zanny the Nanny (Xanax) might be used.

[Sassycat]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

In the transcripts, this psychic lady said that she is a former PI herself.. perhaps she and Dominic go way back?

Maybe they went to school together at the University of Full of Shit!!

     You're on a roll today, Flossy!    Funny!     

[SunnyinTX]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

In the transcripts, this psychic lady said that she is a former PI herself.. perhaps she and Dominic go way back?

It seems to be very easy to get a PI license. I have a friend in Vegas who is a mystery shopper  and she had to get a PI license to become a mystery shopper

LMAO are you kidding me??  That's hilarious. I was going to be a mystery shopper.. before I had kids.   

i was a secret shopper here in the idaho panhandle (and washington) ... and i didnt have to get a PI license to be one.(thank god)

also... i took grandson with... and was told it was good, because it made you blend in well with shoppers..

It might be a Nevada thing.....but there is no way she could blend in to anything. ..she does a lot of  hotels, restaurants and casinos and banks in Nevada....from Vegas to Reno....she stays very busy

[heykim]

a.n.n.i.e has a reason for the smile on her face <3333333 RIP CAYLEE MARIE [ballin' (from annies myspace...



WHAT in gods green EARTH does THAT mean?

I wish I knew, I have no clue.

The other night, I came across another myspace that said "RIP Caylee Marie him <3." What is it with the "<3"? That means "less than 3." Are these people just saying that Caylee was less than 3 when she died? And why did that other myspace person say "him" before the "<3"? I have to find that myspace. The person was actually a Casey lookalike.

A less than and a three sign together is supposed to be a heart.  Meaning LOVE  <3  You guys are funny!!!!   

oh yeah yeah yeah...its ALLLLLLLLLLLL coming back to me now... i got a text from one of my granddaughters once... and couldnt figure it out when SHE wrote that heart thingy ....

of course, i am the SAME person who got all FREAKED out when my new employer (years and years ago) who told me.. "REST UP! we have LOTS to do tomorrow.."

LOTS?  i asked... LOTS?? what the HECK are LOTS..

uh.. we have ALOT to do tomorrow kimberly...ya dork..


heh..

never said i was the sharpest knife in the drawer...

[Lovinlife]

OH HUDSUNN! I've gotta run but you can bet I'm bookmarking your post!

If anyone sees Islandmonkey, can you tell her I left a note in Musings?  I'm afraid I might have ticked her off .  TIA,

  monkeys!
Lovin

[NewfieMonkey]

Thanks for the Welcome Back Sassy & Trimm .... 

Did I miss any Boo's Clues the past two days?

[pixiecat]

Hello, monkeys! I have lurked here for several weeks, but now I have been "accepted" as part of the group. I just want to say that I have really enjoyed the discussions and insight of the group. I look forward everyday to reading the "latest and greatest." Thanks!

Welcome TampaMom!!!!!!!!

[SunnyinTX]

What is a secret shopper?  someone who watches for shoplifters?

no they go in and critique establishments on the sly based on what the company's want