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joesamas mama
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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MAMACRAZY this video is for you, please watch. TIA JSM
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&hl=en&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/xdARfegZDns&hl=en&fs=1
[flash=200,200]www.youtube.com/v/fRdLpem-AAs&hl=en&fs=1[/flash
Mama, please look at all the videos, especially the first and last. TIA JSM
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Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: trimmonthelake on July 21, 2009, 08:06:23 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 07:58:44 PM
Quote from: trimmonthelake on July 21, 2009, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on July 21, 2009, 07:34:17 PM
Trimm
Know what it is like with one having a mean streak.
You know there is always one in the bunch.
All 4 of these kids are good kids,but the one that is 8 thinks he knows everything.
He told hubby he didn't have to mind him.
I'm just gonna sit back and watch this
.
You know his daughter doesn't always keep them in check.He even thought he was gonna take a nap...wrong.You picked them up and you're gonna stay up with them.
About this Billings case.Is it gonna be hard to get up to speed on the info?
What little I read so far makes me think there could be a family member involved.
I wanna see this. Video please.
He took them out to the shop for a little while.
The little chit looked at me and said"You knowmy mom is prettier than you."
I said that o.k.,she's not done raising you yet.
I love my step daughter,but she has the attention span of a gnat.
I can remember working and going to scholl and still having to keep up with my son.It's a full time job.I'm talking these two are curtain climbers.
I'm gonna have to stick a rag in my mouth to keep from laughing at hubby.
You have fun now you hear!
I just came back in.Took Digger for some faux rabbit hunting.
Let the kids run around crazy,and now I put up the dog gates and told the kids they have to stay on hubby's side.
Gonna try and read a little bit.
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on July 21, 2009, 08:48:56 PM
I just came back in.Took Digger for some faux rabbit hunting.
Let the kids run around crazy,and now I put up the dog gates and told the kids they have to stay on hubby's side.
Gonna try and read a little bit.
I don't know what I really think about the Billings murder. But no matter what any of them did, I don't think it warranted coming into the home and killing both of them. Something's hinky in P'cola. JMO
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Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on July 21, 2009, 08:01:44 PM
Hiya Monkeys and a extra Hiya to miss Mae...i've been all over the place today....Trimm the chicken an dumplins were awesome!
so someone explain what is wrong with the health-care bill...i tried to read it and went cross-eyed...
i need the truth 'cause if you come from my end of things, the idea that we can all go to the doctor when we're sick (and not have to shell out a couple $100 to do so) sounds good to me.....,but i know there are much wiser monkey's than i so please explain, because i am truly lost with all this.
Mamacrazy, I can post some videos that will help you see why we don't need this crazy arse bill. I can give you stories of family that live in England with this kind of care or I can just tell the JSM version of it. None of them are pretty.
First things first, the idea of "free" healthcare will never be "free". Someone, (you, me or Joe Blow) down the street will pay for it. There is "free healthcare now, it is called Medicare/Medicaid. If you fall below a very low level of income you can get it. BUT someone has to pay for it, i.e. taxpayers (which you are one of them).
Secondly, if you don't qualify for Medicare/Medicaid, you will NEVER be turned away by an ER facility for care.
If say you were really bad and couldn't afford the bill at a "not for profit" hospital, they would more than likely look at your income, bills, etc and write off the cost of your care.
Now I am going to try and explain the president/congress's plan to you, hope it makes sense..
Say you just need to go to the doctor for a cold and have the NHS, you would take a number and maybe be seen in say about 12 hours or longer.
If you have a knot in your stomach, it may take six months to get a CT scan to tell you that you have cancer, by that time there is nothing they can do for you. You won't get treatments because you are going to die.
Since you are going to "die" they will not treat you, just leave you with some pain meds and say see ya later sister, you are gone because there is nothing we can do, because the treatment will cost too much money.
It is called healthcare rationing and it hasn't worked in the UK and it hasn't worked in Canada.
I hope this makes sense. I will post a video in a bit for you to watch.
JSM
i just assumed everyone would pay X$ a month and then we could all go to the doctor when we needed to....the problem lies with people like me who need to go to the dr., don't have the money at the time (i do but i know many who have no savings) but aren't willing to go to the er....and to be truthful and i am posting FACT the last time i went to the er i had slipped at work and broke my tail-bone...my manager drives me to the hospital, i walk in a tell them i need an x-ray, i slipped at work and think my tail-bone is broken...so they take my temp and blood pressure in a little side room and then ask me to have a seat (i choose to stand lol) until they call for me...so they call, i strip, get x-rayed, and then wait in a room for a dr to tell me yes, it is a broken tail-bone, heres a scrip for 30 hydro-codone and make sure you go to the window before you leave...so i go to the window and the lady says they expect payment for my visit
i then explain that i have no money and she tells me there is an atm down the hall (i chit you not) i again try to explain that this had happened at work, my purse was Still At work, and all i had was $12 in my waitress apron..she gets this look and says, oh, well than take this to your job and have them fill it out and fax it back in...
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OMG thats soooo Anthony. (credits to miss Mae)
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on July 21, 2009, 07:14:37 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on July 21, 2009, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on July 21, 2009, 05:57:04 PM
TRIMM,
Does this ring a bell with you?
Working on the Billings killing in Fl.
http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=304132011
Fanny,I haven't been in the thread much to follow thi,but I did come acorss another forum.
Might see something here.
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?p=306662
It will be slow going from here.Hubby had to pick up the two youngest grandsons to watch for a couple of days.One of them is something else.He's gotta little mean streak.I have to be vigilant over the pups.Thank the Lord the other one is good.
If the 2 older ones call to come,I will be moving in with one of you for a few days.
I'll keep looking around though.
Thanks TRIMM. I found the PDF and posted it. Very interesting.
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joesamas mama
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:46:17 PM
MAMACRAZY this video is for you, please watch. TIA JSM
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&hl=en&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/xdARfegZDns&hl=en&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/fRdLpem-AAs&hl=en&fs=1[/flash[/s]
[flash=200,200]www.youtube.com/v/fRdLpem-AAs&hl=en&fs=1
Mama, please look at all the videos, especially the first and last. TIA JSM
EDIT THIRD video didn't show up when I posted before
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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Reply #346 on:
July 21, 2009, 09:06:31 PM »
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:56:42 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:46:17 PM
MAMACRAZY this video is for you, please watch. TIA JSM
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&hl=en&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/xdARfegZDns&hl=en&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/fRdLpem-AAs&hl=en&fs=1[/flash[/s]
[flash=200,200]www.youtube.com/v/fRdLpem-AAs&hl=en&fs=1
Mama, please look at all the videos, especially the first and last. TIA JSM
EDIT THIRD video didn't show up when I posted before
i'm still in the middle of the first
you JSM
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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July 21, 2009, 09:18:00 PM »
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on July 21, 2009, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on July 21, 2009, 08:01:44 PM
Hiya Monkeys and a extra Hiya to miss Mae...i've been all over the place today....Trimm the chicken an dumplins were awesome!
so someone explain what is wrong with the health-care bill...i tried to read it and went cross-eyed...
i need the truth 'cause if you come from my end of things, the idea that we can all go to the doctor when we're sick (and not have to shell out a couple $100 to do so) sounds good to me.....,but i know there are much wiser monkey's than i so please explain, because i am truly lost with all this.
Mamacrazy, I can post some videos that will help you see why we don't need this crazy arse bill. I can give you stories of family that live in England with this kind of care or I can just tell the JSM version of it. None of them are pretty.
First things first, the idea of "free" healthcare will never be "free". Someone, (you, me or Joe Blow) down the street will pay for it. There is "free healthcare now, it is called Medicare/Medicaid. If you fall below a very low level of income you can get it. BUT someone has to pay for it, i.e. taxpayers (which you are one of them).
Secondly, if you don't qualify for Medicare/Medicaid, you will NEVER be turned away by an ER facility for care.
If say you were really bad and couldn't afford the bill at a "not for profit" hospital, they would more than likely look at your income, bills, etc and write off the cost of your care.
Now I am going to try and explain the president/congress's plan to you, hope it makes sense..
Say you just need to go to the doctor for a cold and have the NHS, you would take a number and maybe be seen in say about 12 hours or longer.
If you have a knot in your stomach, it may take six months to get a CT scan to tell you that you have cancer, by that time there is nothing they can do for you. You won't get treatments because you are going to die.
Since you are going to "die" they will not treat you, just leave you with some pain meds and say see ya later sister, you are gone because there is nothing we can do, because the treatment will cost too much money.
It is called healthcare rationing and it hasn't worked in the UK and it hasn't worked in Canada.
I hope this makes sense. I will post a video in a bit for you to watch.
JSM
i just assumed everyone would pay X$ a month and then we could all go to the doctor when we needed to....the problem lies with people like me who need to go to the dr., don't have the money at the time (i do but i know many who have no savings) but aren't willing to go to the er....and to be truthful and i am posting FACT the last time i went to the er i had slipped at work and broke my tail-bone...my manager drives me to the hospital, i walk in a tell them i need an x-ray, i slipped at work and think my tail-bone is broken...so they take my temp and blood pressure in a little side room and then ask me to have a seat (i choose to stand lol) until they call for me...so they call, i strip, get x-rayed, and then wait in a room for a dr to tell me yes, it is a broken tail-bone, heres a scrip for 30 hydro-codone and make sure you go to the window before you leave...so i go to the window and the lady says they expect payment for my visit
i then explain that i have no money and she tells me there is an atm down the hall (i chit you not) i again try to explain that this had happened at work, my purse was Still At work, and all i had was $12 in my waitress apron..she gets this look and says, oh, well than take this to your job and have them fill it out and fax it back in...
Mama, with your tail bone accident, that would be covered under worker's compensation, you employer either has w/c insurance or not. If not, your employer will have to pay out of his pocket, but being a place of employment where accident's happen, they should have W/C insurance.
Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should have some sort of treatment if they are injured or sick. But if we "socialize" medicine it lets the goverment say who can or cannot be treated. THAT is my biggest problem with it.
They are
not
telling you there is help out there. They are making people scared, so that we become dependent on the goverment for healthcare, then we become dependent for jobs, for food, for everything.
Sorry for being a downer, but when you let someone run your life, they have total CONTROL, be it the goverment or your dog or your husband.
My motto is never loose control, unless it is for sad puppy dog eyes.
I hope this makes sense, I am and never have been articulate and it takes me a long time to post what I am trying to say. Maybe the videos helped. Steven Crowder and Ronald Reagan are much more articulate than JSM.
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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I am really ragged out tonight again. I am going to bed. I have stretched my brain too far today.
Good Night, Y'all. And God Bless.
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
Mama, with your tail bone accident, that would be covered under worker's compensation, you employer either has w/c insurance or not. If not, your employer will have to pay out of his pocket, but being a place of employment where accident's happen, they should have W/C insurance.
Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should have some sort of treatment if they are injured or sick. But if we "socialize" medicine it lets the goverment say who can or cannot be treated. THAT is my biggest problem with it.
They are
not
telling you there is help out there. They are making people scared, so that we become dependent on the goverment for healthcare, then we become dependent for jobs, for food, for everything.
Sorry for being a downer, but when you let someone run your life, they have total CONTROL, be it the goverment or your dog or your husband.
My motto is never loose control, unless it is for sad puppy dog eyes.
I hope this makes sense, I am and never have been articulate and it takes me a long time to post what I am trying to say. Maybe the videos helped. Steven Crowder and Ronald Reagan are much more articulate than JSM.
Your post was spot on. Couldn't have been more articulate if Ronald Reagan said it!!!
Nite!
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Jesus loves the little children, all the children in the world.
Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world.
Words: C. Herbert Woolston (1856-1927) Music: George F. Root (1820-1895)
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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Reply #350 on:
July 21, 2009, 09:26:39 PM »
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on July 21, 2009, 09:06:31 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:56:42 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:46:17 PM
MAMACRAZY this video is for you, please watch. TIA JSM
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&hl=en&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/xdARfegZDns&hl=en&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/fRdLpem-AAs&hl=en&fs=1[/flash[/s]
[flash=200,200]www.youtube.com/v/fRdLpem-AAs&hl=en&fs=1
Mama, please look at all the videos, especially the first and last. TIA JSM
EDIT THIRD video didn't show up when I posted before
i'm still in the middle of the first
you JSM
Thanks Mama for watching.
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Re: JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #2
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Reply #351 on:
July 21, 2009, 09:26:43 PM »
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on July 21, 2009, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on July 21, 2009, 08:01:44 PM
Hiya Monkeys and a extra Hiya to miss Mae...i've been all over the place today....Trimm the chicken an dumplins were awesome!
so someone explain what is wrong with the health-care bill...i tried to read it and went cross-eyed...
i need the truth 'cause if you come from my end of things, the idea that we can all go to the doctor when we're sick (and not have to shell out a couple $100 to do so) sounds good to me.....,but i know there are much wiser monkey's than i so please explain, because i am truly lost with all this.
Mamacrazy, I can post some videos that will help you see why we don't need this crazy arse bill. I can give you stories of family that live in England with this kind of care or I can just tell the JSM version of it. None of them are pretty.
First things first, the idea of "free" healthcare will never be "free". Someone, (you, me or Joe Blow) down the street will pay for it. There is "free healthcare now, it is called Medicare/Medicaid. If you fall below a very low level of income you can get it. BUT someone has to pay for it, i.e. taxpayers (which you are one of them).
Secondly, if you don't qualify for Medicare/Medicaid, you will NEVER be turned away by an ER facility for care.
If say you were really bad and couldn't afford the bill at a "not for profit" hospital, they would more than likely look at your income, bills, etc and write off the cost of your care.
Now I am going to try and explain the president/congress's plan to you, hope it makes sense..
Say you just need to go to the doctor for a cold and have the NHS, you would take a number and maybe be seen in say about 12 hours or longer.
If you have a knot in your stomach, it may take six months to get a CT scan to tell you that you have cancer, by that time there is nothing they can do for you. You won't get treatments because you are going to die.
Since you are going to "die" they will not treat you, just leave you with some pain meds and say see ya later sister, you are gone because there is nothing we can do, because the treatment will cost too much money.
It is called healthcare rationing and it hasn't worked in the UK and it hasn't worked in Canada.
I hope this makes sense. I will post a video in a bit for you to watch.
JSM
i just assumed everyone would pay X$ a month and then we could all go to the doctor when we needed to....the problem lies with people like me who need to go to the dr., don't have the money at the time (i do but i know many who have no savings) but aren't willing to go to the er....and to be truthful and i am posting FACT the last time i went to the er i had slipped at work and broke my tail-bone...my manager drives me to the hospital, i walk in a tell them i need an x-ray, i slipped at work and think my tail-bone is broken...so they take my temp and blood pressure in a little side room and then ask me to have a seat (i choose to stand lol) until they call for me...so they call, i strip, get x-rayed, and then wait in a room for a dr to tell me yes, it is a broken tail-bone, heres a scrip for 30 hydro-codone and make sure you go to the window before you leave...so i go to the window and the lady says they expect payment for my visit
i then explain that i have no money and she tells me there is an atm down the hall (i chit you not) i again try to explain that this had happened at work, my purse was Still At work, and all i had was $12 in my waitress apron..she gets this look and says, oh, well than take this to your job and have them fill it out and fax it back in...
Mama, with your tail bone accident, that would be covered under worker's compensation, you employer either has w/c insurance or not. If not, your employer will have to pay out of his pocket, but being a place of employment where accident's happen, they should have W/C insurance.
Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should have some sort of treatment if they are injured or sick. But if we "socialize" medicine it lets the goverment say who can or cannot be treated. THAT is my biggest problem with it.
They are
not
telling you there is help out there. They are making people scared, so that we become dependent on the goverment for healthcare, then we become dependent for jobs, for food, for everything.
Sorry for being a downer, but when you let someone run your life, they have total CONTROL, be it the goverment or your dog or your husband.
My motto is never loose control, unless it is for sad puppy dog eyes.
I hope this makes sense, I am and never have been articulate and it takes me a long time to post what I am trying to say. Maybe the videos helped. Steven Crowder and Ronald Reagan are much more articulate than JSM.
oh no, i agree about to gov thing and worker-comp did pay. the videos shed a lot of light for me...all this time i assumed it was like a big group health plan where we (well anyone with a job) would pay $200 a month and it would be business as usual....
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on July 21, 2009, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
Mama, with your tail bone accident, that would be covered under worker's compensation, you employer either has w/c insurance or not. If not, your employer will have to pay out of his pocket, but being a place of employment where accident's happen, they should have W/C insurance.
Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should have some sort of treatment if they are injured or sick. But if we "socialize" medicine it lets the goverment say who can or cannot be treated. THAT is my biggest problem with it.
They are
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telling you there is help out there. They are making people scared, so that we become dependent on the goverment for healthcare, then we become dependent for jobs, for food, for everything.
Sorry for being a downer, but when you let someone run your life, they have total CONTROL, be it the goverment or your dog or your husband.
My motto is never loose control, unless it is for sad puppy dog eyes.
I hope this makes sense, I am and never have been articulate and it takes me a long time to post what I am trying to say. Maybe the videos helped. Steven Crowder and Ronald Reagan are much more articulate than JSM.
Your post was spot on. Couldn't have been more articulate if Ronald Reagan said it!!!
Nite!
sweet dreams miss Mae of sleepy cats and cheese-cake flavored jellybeans
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on July 21, 2009, 09:21:51 PM
I am really ragged out tonight again. I am going to bed. I have stretched my brain too far today.
Good Night, Y'all. And God Bless.
thats what happens when you strain your brain.
sweet dreams Miss mae
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Quote from: mamacrazy30 on July 21, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on July 21, 2009, 08:53:21 PM
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Hiya Monkeys and a extra Hiya to miss Mae...i've been all over the place today....Trimm the chicken an dumplins were awesome!
so someone explain what is wrong with the health-care bill...i tried to read it and went cross-eyed...
i need the truth 'cause if you come from my end of things, the idea that we can all go to the doctor when we're sick (and not have to shell out a couple $100 to do so) sounds good to me.....,but i know there are much wiser monkey's than i so please explain, because i am truly lost with all this.
Mamacrazy, I can post some videos that will help you see why we don't need this crazy arse bill. I can give you stories of family that live in England with this kind of care or I can just tell the JSM version of it. None of them are pretty.
First things first, the idea of "free" healthcare will never be "free". Someone, (you, me or Joe Blow) down the street will pay for it. There is "free healthcare now, it is called Medicare/Medicaid. If you fall below a very low level of income you can get it. BUT someone has to pay for it, i.e. taxpayers (which you are one of them).
Secondly, if you don't qualify for Medicare/Medicaid, you will NEVER be turned away by an ER facility for care.
If say you were really bad and couldn't afford the bill at a "not for profit" hospital, they would more than likely look at your income, bills, etc and write off the cost of your care.
Now I am going to try and explain the president/congress's plan to you, hope it makes sense..
Say you just need to go to the doctor for a cold and have the NHS, you would take a number and maybe be seen in say about 12 hours or longer.
If you have a knot in your stomach, it may take six months to get a CT scan to tell you that you have cancer, by that time there is nothing they can do for you. You won't get treatments because you are going to die.
Since you are going to "die" they will not treat you, just leave you with some pain meds and say see ya later sister, you are gone because there is nothing we can do, because the treatment will cost too much money.
It is called healthcare rationing and it hasn't worked in the UK and it hasn't worked in Canada.
I hope this makes sense. I will post a video in a bit for you to watch.
JSM
i just assumed everyone would pay X$ a month and then we could all go to the doctor when we needed to....the problem lies with people like me who need to go to the dr., don't have the money at the time (i do but i know many who have no savings) but aren't willing to go to the er....and to be truthful and i am posting FACT the last time i went to the er i had slipped at work and broke my tail-bone...my manager drives me to the hospital, i walk in a tell them i need an x-ray, i slipped at work and think my tail-bone is broken...so they take my temp and blood pressure in a little side room and then ask me to have a seat (i choose to stand lol) until they call for me...so they call, i strip, get x-rayed, and then wait in a room for a dr to tell me yes, it is a broken tail-bone, heres a scrip for 30 hydro-codone and make sure you go to the window before you leave...so i go to the window and the lady says they expect payment for my visit
i then explain that i have no money and she tells me there is an atm down the hall (i chit you not) i again try to explain that this had happened at work, my purse was Still At work, and all i had was $12 in my waitress apron..she gets this look and says, oh, well than take this to your job and have them fill it out and fax it back in...
Mama, with your tail bone accident, that would be covered under worker's compensation, you employer either has w/c insurance or not. If not, your employer will have to pay out of his pocket, but being a place of employment where accident's happen, they should have W/C insurance.
Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should have some sort of treatment if they are injured or sick. But if we "socialize" medicine it lets the goverment say who can or cannot be treated. THAT is my biggest problem with it.
They are
not
telling you there is help out there. They are making people scared, so that we become dependent on the goverment for healthcare, then we become dependent for jobs, for food, for everything.
Sorry for being a downer, but when you let someone run your life, they have total CONTROL, be it the goverment or your dog or your husband.
My motto is never loose control, unless it is for sad puppy dog eyes.
I hope this makes sense, I am and never have been articulate and it takes me a long time to post what I am trying to say. Maybe the videos helped. Steven Crowder and Ronald Reagan are much more articulate than JSM.
oh no, i agree about to gov thing and worker-comp did pay. the videos shed a lot of light for me...all this time i assumed it was like a big group health plan where we (well anyone with a job) would pay $200 a month and it would be business as usual....
I'm glad the videos helped you understand Mama. But one thing I did hear today is if you choose not to buy health insurance you could be fined $2500. Not sure if that is true, because I am very tired and just like our president, I haven't read the bill. I do know they will tax me on the premiums my employer pays for my health insurance. So not only will I have Medicare/SS tax taken out of my check, but I will also have my insurance taxed too AS will my employer, so it is kind of a double tax in a way.
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on July 21, 2009, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
Mama, with your tail bone accident, that would be covered under worker's compensation, you employer either has w/c insurance or not. If not, your employer will have to pay out of his pocket, but being a place of employment where accident's happen, they should have W/C insurance.
Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should have some sort of treatment if they are injured or sick. But if we "socialize" medicine it lets the goverment say who can or cannot be treated. THAT is my biggest problem with it.
They are
not
telling you there is help out there. They are making people scared, so that we become dependent on the goverment for healthcare, then we become dependent for jobs, for food, for everything.
Sorry for being a downer, but when you let someone run your life, they have total CONTROL, be it the goverment or your dog or your husband.
My motto is never loose control, unless it is for sad puppy dog eyes.
I hope this makes sense, I am and never have been articulate and it takes me a long time to post what I am trying to say. Maybe the videos helped. Steven Crowder and Ronald Reagan are much more articulate than JSM.
Your post was spot on. Couldn't have been more articulate if Ronald Reagan said it!!!
Nite!
Thanks Fanny!!! That makes me really happy being compared to my true American Idol!!!
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Okay Monkeys and guests, JSM is calling it a night.
I know I have probably pizzed off a lot of people with my posts on the healthcare issue, there are things that could be changed, but not the overhaul and rationing of healthcare in this country.
One more thing JSM has to say about this issue, think about your Gran or Grandad or yourself for that matter. If you don't fit the limits and/or requirements for treatment that will help you/them, you/them will die.
Sorry to be morbid, but that is what the NHS does in England.
Sleep well anyone listening to my rant. I am going to bed now. Sweet dreams.
JSM
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Quote from: joesamas mama on July 21, 2009, 09:57:56 PM
Okay Monkeys and guests, JSM is calling it a night.
I know I have probably pizzed off a lot of people with my posts on the healthcare issue, there are things that could be changed, but not the overhaul and rationing of healthcare in this country.
One more thing JSM has to say about this issue, think about your Gran or Grandad or yourself for that matter. If you don't fit the limits and/or requirements for treatment that will help you/them, you/them will die.
Sorry to be morbid, but that is what the NHS does in England.
Sleep well anyone listening to my rant. I am going to bed now. Sweet dreams.
JSM
sweet dreams sweet lady..
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