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« Reply #1860 on: December 27, 2008, 09:57:17 PM »

islandmonkey... You have a very cute son, and he sure looks happy.

Thank you.....he is very happy! The other day he asked me if he could skateboard to school (he does this everyday, so I thought it was odd he asked)-then he added "without you following me in the car!!", so I let him, then drove 1 block to the school just to make sure he didn't get hurt. So, he's doing as well as any child could do with love and support, and a new home in a different state.
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« Reply #1861 on: December 27, 2008, 09:57:44 PM »

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Too very humane in my eyes. My Josef is wanting to go outside right now, but it is way too cold. I will go though because it is something a good person will do, let their baby go potty. Casey was so lazy Caylee wasn't even potty trained. Thats what I don't get, she was with the baby every day, but never potty trained her.

I know I will get loads of hate from this post, but girls are supposedly easier to potty train than boys. My point is, if you cannot afford diapers that is a double incentive to get your kids going potty in the big chair, not in their nappys. Sorry if I offended. JSM

I thought she was almost potty trained??
Almost in the Anthony's eyes as being potty trained. I don't believe a word they say. George said she was "this close", but LE kept asking about nappys (diapers) being left with the baby sitter or in the car. I'm not sure Sunny, but I do know there were questions with George about potty training. I STILL haven't listened to Cindy with LE, but this has always been a nagging thorn in my side. Maybe Luckycharms can answer it.

Isn't not being toilet trained a sign of sexual abuse? Just asking, don't know where I read/heard that. TIA JSM

I'm no pyshologist, but my son was sexually abused when he was a little over 3yrs old, he started regressing (back into pullups) and drinking a bottle at night on top of nightmares that I would be eaten by alligators, monsters or be in a black hole
Oh I am so sorry I brought up this up. I truly am sorry. It was something I had read back when I was in school. I hope I didn't hurt or offend you. I hope your son is doing well now.

By no means an I offended~I have mentioned it many times since I joined SM. I believe if more people knew the symptoms of sexual abuse, well maybe it wouldn't be so prevalent. I wished someone had warned me and if my posting about the experience can save ONLY one person from that hell on earth it's damn well worth it.

My son is almost 9 now, and we moved far away from where we used to live....the first day here he was a different child, spends the night away, he went on a week long vacation with a friend from where we moved from and he has regained some of his childhood...........he feels safe now, look and see!
THANK YOU Island. I am so glad I didn't bring up anything bad. He is ADORABLE AND HAPPY. Unfortunately I believe he has a Texas A&M shirt in the little picture. Or do I need reading glasses. You have done a great job. God bless you and your baby.
[/quote] I always mess up posts when I am trying to be funny  Thanks Island for your insight and I am glad you and your baby are well. Even if it is an A&M shirt he has on.
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« Reply #1862 on: December 27, 2008, 09:58:34 PM »

luckycharmsprincess..... Thank-you for that, very interesting, when you look at some of Casey's friends, they seem like they would be able to manipulate easily. I would imagine she would not befriend anyone who was not. I keep going back to the Sawgrass Apts, I had never thought or probably did not want to think that Caylee was being used for child pornography, but after listening to Wendy Murphy, I just stood back and went, please don't let it be that. My husband after telling him of the compromising pics of Casey months ago, looked at me and pretty much said, I wonder if Caylee was being abused. I am one who is not sold on the choloraform angle of keeping Caylee quiet, for me that doesn't make a lot of sense since it doesn't knock you out for long. I certainly hope this is not the case, that Caylee had to go through this, but I will not be surprised if it turns out to be. I've mentioned before that I worried about Caylee being abused, because who knows some of the people Casey left her with, but pics or movies of Caylee didn't enter my mind until I heard Wendy Murphy discuss this.

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Does anyone remember the post, several months ago on another site, by a female author making these same claims? She stated she was doing research for a book about the case. At that time it was rumored that LE could tell by the stains in the trunk how the body was positioned. Part of her claim was that one of the stains contained sperm.
I remember reading about how the body was positioned, but I don't recall anything about sperm.
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« Reply #1863 on: December 27, 2008, 09:59:22 PM »

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Too very humane in my eyes. My Josef is wanting to go outside right now, but it is way too cold. I will go though because it is something a good person will do, let their baby go potty. Casey was so lazy Caylee wasn't even potty trained. Thats what I don't get, she was with the baby every day, but never potty trained her.

I know I will get loads of hate from this post, but girls are supposedly easier to potty train than boys. My point is, if you cannot afford diapers that is a double incentive to get your kids going potty in the big chair, not in their nappys. Sorry if I offended. JSM

I thought she was almost potty trained??
Almost in the Anthony's eyes as being potty trained. I don't believe a word they say. George said she was "this close", but LE kept asking about nappys (diapers) being left with the baby sitter or in the car. I'm not sure Sunny, but I do know there were questions with George about potty training. I STILL haven't listened to Cindy with LE, but this has always been a nagging thorn in my side. Maybe Luckycharms can answer it.

Isn't not being toilet trained a sign of sexual abuse? Just asking, don't know where I read/heard that. TIA JSM

I'm no pyshologist, but my son was sexually abused when he was a little over 3yrs old, he started regressing (back into pullups) and drinking a bottle at night on top of nightmares that I would be eaten by alligators, monsters or be in a black hole
Oh I am so sorry I brought up this up. I truly am sorry. It was something I had read back when I was in school. I hope I didn't hurt or offend you. I hope your son is doing well now.

By no means an I offended~I have mentioned it many times since I joined SM. I believe if more people knew the symptoms of sexual abuse, well maybe it wouldn't be so prevalent. I wished someone had warned me and if my posting about the experience can save ONLY one person from that hell on earth it's damn well worth it.

My son is almost 9 now, and we moved far away from where we used to live....the first day here he was a different child, spends the night away, he went on a week long vacation with a friend from where we moved from and he has regained some of his childhood...........he feels safe now, look and see!
THANK YOU Island. I am so glad I didn't bring up anything bad. He is ADORABLE AND HAPPY. Unfortunately I believe he has a Texas A&M shirt in the little picture. Or do I need reading glasses. You have done a great job. God bless you and your baby.
I always mess up posts when I am trying to be funny  Thanks Island for your insight and I am glad you and your baby are well. Even if it is an A&M shirt he has on.
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« Reply #1864 on: December 27, 2008, 09:59:54 PM »

There are lots of children that aren't potty trained until they are 3 - 3 1/2 years old.  After that age, I would say there may be a problem.
I'm sorry Mammy, I don't have children, but my sisters/brothers have children that were toilet trained before they were 3 1/2. I knew I would offend someone with that post.
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« Reply #1865 on: December 27, 2008, 10:00:11 PM »

Islandmom, your son is beautiful!  Such a free spirit, running on that beach!

There is s special corner of Hell reserved for the beast who could hurt such a one.
You bet, the lowest of the low, that does anything so horrible to a child.
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« Reply #1867 on: December 27, 2008, 10:00:51 PM »

There are lots of children that aren't potty trained until they are 3 - 3 1/2 years old.  After that age, I would say there may be a problem.

True.  The child who has been potty-trained and suddenly regresses is who I'd be concerned about.  Could indicate sev. things, not only being abused.  I'd be concerned about an older child who hasn't become completely potty-trained yet, say 4-5 yrs old, by 6 MOST definitely concerned.  The key thing here is to watch for regression of any kind.   
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« Reply #1868 on: December 27, 2008, 10:00:53 PM »

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« Reply #1869 on: December 27, 2008, 10:02:48 PM »


Did you hear about the rumor about Tamikosmom and George Clooney?  It was false.  I would have none of his shenanigans.

 

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« Reply #1870 on: December 27, 2008, 10:02:58 PM »

luckycharmsprincess..... Thank-you for that, very interesting, when you look at some of Casey's friends, they seem like they would be able to manipulate easily. I would imagine she would not befriend anyone who was not. I keep going back to the Sawgrass Apts, I had never thought or probably did not want to think that Caylee was being used for child pornography, but after listening to Wendy Murphy, I just stood back and went, please don't let it be that. My husband after telling him of the compromising pics of Casey months ago, looked at me and pretty much said, I wonder if Caylee was being abused. I am one who is not sold on the choloraform angle of keeping Caylee quiet, for me that doesn't make a lot of sense since it doesn't knock you out for long. I certainly hope this is not the case, that Caylee had to go through this, but I will not be surprised if it turns out to be. I've mentioned before that I worried about Caylee being abused, because who knows some of the people Casey left her with, but pics or movies of Caylee didn't enter my mind until I heard Wendy Murphy discuss this.

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Does anyone remember the post, several months ago on another site, by a female author making these same claims? She stated she was doing research for a book about the case. At that time it was rumored that LE could tell by the stains in the trunk how the body was positioned. Part of her claim was that one of the stains contained sperm.
Stain on the carpet in the car?
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« Reply #1871 on: December 27, 2008, 10:03:35 PM »

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« Reply #1872 on: December 27, 2008, 10:03:54 PM »

There are lots of children that aren't potty trained until they are 3 - 3 1/2 years old.  After that age, I would say there may be a problem.
I'm sorry Mammy, I don't have children, but my sisters/brothers have children that were toilet trained before they were 3 1/2. I knew I would offend someone with that post.

You didn't offend me.

My boys were potty trained around 2 years old.  I have known others that their children had minds of their own.   
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« Reply #1873 on: December 27, 2008, 10:04:57 PM »

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Too very humane in my eyes. My Josef is wanting to go outside right now, but it is way too cold. I will go though because it is something a good person will do, let their baby go potty. Casey was so lazy Caylee wasn't even potty trained. Thats what I don't get, she was with the baby every day, but never potty trained her.

I know I will get loads of hate from this post, but girls are supposedly easier to potty train than boys. My point is, if you cannot afford diapers that is a double incentive to get your kids going potty in the big chair, not in their nappys. Sorry if I offended. JSM

I thought she was almost potty trained??
Almost in the Anthony's eyes as being potty trained. I don't believe a word they say. George said she was "this close", but LE kept asking about nappys (diapers) being left with the baby sitter or in the car. I'm not sure Sunny, but I do know there were questions with George about potty training. I STILL haven't listened to Cindy with LE, but this has always been a nagging thorn in my side. Maybe Luckycharms can answer it.

Isn't not being toilet trained a sign of sexual abuse? Just asking, don't know where I read/heard that. TIA JSM

Hi TIA,

It can be. However, in this case if there was excessive bedwetting, I would attribute it to this child's erratic home life. While everything looks fairly normal on the outside, I have strong reservations about how normal it was on the inside. A child needs consistency more than anything. This is how they form security and trust. If Casey was taking her to parties, leaving her with strangers, Caylee would have developed fears because she didn't know what to expect from day to day. That structure and ability to have a routine is what allows us to feel comfortable. The video of Caylee with her great grandfather has bothered me. She looks as if she is holding on for dear life. Usually a child who is comfortable and secure will run around in a strange environment because they have developed a sense of trust usually due to a consistent parental figure. When a child clings, this tells me there is a huge need not being fulfilled. By Casey's own admissions, she says Caylee didn't get excited to talk to her or see her after Casey had been gone all day to 'work.' This isn't normal.

We won't be able to connect this piece of the puzzle until we know what Casey really did during the day for two years.
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« Reply #1874 on: December 27, 2008, 10:05:49 PM »

Alright! Whose bad? I'm bad!
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« Reply #1875 on: December 27, 2008, 10:05:58 PM »

Sorry about the typos in my reply. Its late!!!!
It's okay Becca, I just read your post didn't see any typos.

I am now sad I even brought my question up 
Oh don't be, I had heard this also.
Thanks No Rose, how is Zoe?
She is fine, wants to go out in the yard, but it is rather cold for So California.
  Cold in So Calif? It's cold here in Texas too.
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« Reply #1876 on: December 27, 2008, 10:06:53 PM »

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Too very humane in my eyes. My Josef is wanting to go outside right now, but it is way too cold. I will go though because it is something a good person will do, let their baby go potty. Casey was so lazy Caylee wasn't even potty trained. Thats what I don't get, she was with the baby every day, but never potty trained her.

I know I will get loads of hate from this post, but girls are supposedly easier to potty train than boys. My point is, if you cannot afford diapers that is a double incentive to get your kids going potty in the big chair, not in their nappys. Sorry if I offended. JSM

I thought she was almost potty trained??
Almost in the Anthony's eyes as being potty trained. I don't believe a word they say. George said she was "this close", but LE kept asking about nappys (diapers) being left with the baby sitter or in the car. I'm not sure Sunny, but I do know there were questions with George about potty training. I STILL haven't listened to Cindy with LE, but this has always been a nagging thorn in my side. Maybe Luckycharms can answer it.

Isn't not being toilet trained a sign of sexual abuse? Just asking, don't know where I read/heard that. TIA JSM

I'm no psychologist, but my son was sexually abused when he was a little over 3yrs old, he started regressing (back into pullups) and drinking a bottle at night on top of nightmares that I would be eaten by alligators, monsters or be in a black hole

Wow.  That's sad.    Poor little guy.       

I bet that was horrible to live through.

It was, but I learned alot about how prevalent it was and now I am trying to become an advocate so people aren't so afraid to talk about it, I also learned to trust in God once I crawled out of my black hole, and he has blessed us beyond belief. It can never be forgotten, but we have learned to move on, educate others and live each day to it's fullest and to appreciate the small stuff.

Thanks for posting the signs and educating us.    I'm afraid that if I went through that with my child, I'd be locked up for murdering the a$$ who did it. 
Your son is very cute.   I'm glad he's doing well. 
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Thanks Sassy, now don't get me wrong, I'd have love to send him to the depths of hell at the end of a 9mm glock, but that wouldn't have helped my son.......but it did cross my mind from time to time. We moved far away, so now I don't ever worry about seeing this monster again, so it's easier to move on.
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« Reply #1877 on: December 27, 2008, 10:07:35 PM »

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« Reply #1878 on: December 27, 2008, 10:07:43 PM »

There are lots of children that aren't potty trained until they are 3 - 3 1/2 years old.  After that age, I would say there may be a problem.

My five year old grandson was day trained at two but ... still wears pullups.  It is never an issue.  If they are wet in the morning ... he chucks them in the garbage.  Case Closed!

Hey ... bedwetting is probably hereditary.  His Mama (me) wet the bed until she was five years old.

I can remember ... in the middle of the night my Mom gave me a sponge bath ... clean PJ's and ... changing the sheets.  There was a rubber sheet over the matress.

Janet

Does anyone remember the movie with Michael (I can't remember his last name but he was an actor from 'Little House on the Prairie' and he has since died from cancer). It was about bedwetting being hereditary with men, and from Janets post, apparently with women too. I really do not like more pressure being put on children for the potty training or some mother worrying their child has been abused since they are late in being potty trained. That is just one of a group of signs. I am an advocate of educating people, walked in those shoes too, and wish I had known more 30 years ago.
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