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« Reply #1180 on: June 03, 2010, 11:11:21 PM »

Did Greta say it was Beth, or did this come directly from a family member?   I'm not convinced it was Beth. I am leaning toward JQK or sting. 

Either way, Joran is responsible and no one in Natalee's family should feel any sense of guilt.  I m only glad that he will finally be stopped, and sorry that another life was lost.   
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« Reply #1181 on: June 03, 2010, 11:12:40 PM »

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Do you think the U. S. extradition attempt will take precedence over the
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I really don't know.  I wondered if the reason for getting that charge out there today
was to get that charge in before the Peruvian charge was filed.

not sure, i would think it would go by offense, bigger gets it

Extradition
Sections of Title 18 of the United States Code, Chapter 209, concerning extradition to or from the United States
http://www.oas.org/juridico/MLA/en/usa/index.html
Thanks CW618.  I tend to agree.  However if the U. S. gets him first he still has Peru in his future. 
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« Reply #1182 on: June 03, 2010, 11:14:53 PM »

Janet - the crime (extortion and wire fraud) was committed against a US Citizen, while said Citizen was on US soil.  That brings it squarely into US jurisdiction this time.  Smile

That makes sense.

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« Reply #1183 on: June 03, 2010, 11:15:38 PM »

Hello Monkeys... I have not been on here in quite sometime, but have always been keeping up... I just had to write today.. A bitter sweet morning, a young girl dead, and Joran FINALLY arrested. 
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« Reply #1184 on: June 03, 2010, 11:16:18 PM »

If Joran didn`t go to the store...

If Joran didn`t go....

If Joran wasn`t alive....

Greta - there was another option.

You could just shut your effing mouth.

It`s always on the table.
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« Reply #1185 on: June 03, 2010, 11:17:06 PM »

Thanks to all the monkeys for the updates, links, and screen captures.

Hammer - good to see you!
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« Reply #1186 on: June 03, 2010, 11:17:09 PM »

Did Greta say it was Beth, or did this come directly from a family member?   I'm not convinced it was Beth. I am leaning toward JQK or sting. 

Either way, Joran is responsible and no one in Natalee's family should feel any sense of guilt.  I m only glad that he will finally be stopped, and sorry that another life was lost.   


I have not heard directly that it was Beth who Joran tried to extort, however....I believe that
she is the only family member living in Birmingham and they said it was a family member.

I don't think Jug would be considered a family member now that he and Beth are divorced.
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« Reply #1187 on: June 03, 2010, 11:17:52 PM »

For what its worth ...

Joran van der Sloot led a high-stakes life in South America
Posted on Thursday, 06.03.10


When reached at her home -- a one-story cinder block house painted mustard yellow -- Anita van der Sloot sounded composed and attempted to politely dismiss any inquiries about her son.

She has two other sons, Valentijn and Sebastian. She is now a widow. Her husband died suddenly last February while playing tennis.

``I don't know anything,'' Anita told The Herald. ``I haven't been in contact with Joran for a long time ...

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/03/1662456_p2/joran-van-der-sloot-led-a-high.html

There was a recent picture of Joran in Aruba taken and posted over at RU, it was in April.
I went there and I do go there every once in a while. Always do check ups of what is going on. So she is FOS.
I don't know if they have a bail system in Peru. Their laws are not based in common law like the English system that the US and Canada are based on, but rather civil law. That also might mean no jury trial. Too bad they didn't have executions. In public. So, the warrant today from Alabama might fill in a gap if they do have bail or a release until trial. 

This was before we heard he was being taken to the border tomorrow.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1188 on: June 03, 2010, 11:18:14 PM »

What poetic justice. Urine got off the first time because of his prominent father and the crime was against a foreigner on his soil. This time Urine kills a girl with a prominent father on their soil. Just when I think it could not get any worse for Urine, there is this

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In the Internet reactions to the death of Stephany refers to the political past of her father. People suggest that Ricardo Flores, through his association with the political mafia, bad example has given to his daughter. But most reactions have been shocked.

His recent victims father has associations with the Mafia!!!!! Oh please tell me that it is true! I certainly hope that they keep him in Peru. He can URINATE in a hole in the floor. If he gets extradited to the U.S. please put him in the same prison with other Peruvians.
 
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« Reply #1189 on: June 03, 2010, 11:19:09 PM »

Hello Monkeys... I have not been on here in quite sometime, but have always been keeping up... I just had to write today.. A bitter sweet morning, a young girl dead, and Joran FINALLY arrested. 


Hi lnichols- yes bitter sweet but at least the monster was caught.  I don't think he can get out of it this time.
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« Reply #1190 on: June 03, 2010, 11:19:09 PM »

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I always had Faith that BillB made a difference..Just sayin...Keepthefaith cause Justice is right around tha corner or bend!TICK_TOCK the clock is tickin & tocking!

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« Reply #1191 on: June 03, 2010, 11:19:09 PM »

Did Greta say it was Beth, or did this come directly from a family member?   I'm not convinced it was Beth. I am leaning toward JQK or sting. 

Either way, Joran is responsible and no one in Natalee's family should feel any sense of guilt.  I m only glad that he will finally be stopped, and sorry that another life was lost.   


I have not heard directly that it was Beth who Joran tried to extort, however....I believe that
she is the only family member living in Birmingham and they said it was a family member.

I don't think Jug would be considered a family member now that he and Beth are divorced.


I thought Nancy said it was a possible sting?
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« Reply #1192 on: June 03, 2010, 11:20:13 PM »

Did Greta say it was Beth, or did this come directly from a family member?   I'm not convinced it was Beth. I am leaning toward JQK or sting. 

Either way, Joran is responsible and no one in Natalee's family should feel any sense of guilt.  I m only glad that he will finally be stopped, and sorry that another life was lost.   


I have not heard directly that it was Beth who Joran tried to extort, however....I believe that
she is the only family member living in Birmingham and they said it was a family member.

I don't think Jug would be considered a family member now that he and Beth are divorced.

Thank you.  I still consider Jug as Natalee's family, but that might just be me.
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« Reply #1193 on: June 03, 2010, 11:21:06 PM »

Hello Monkeys... I have not been on here in quite sometime, but have always been keeping up... I just had to write today.. A bitter sweet morning, a young girl dead, and Joran FINALLY arrested. 


Hi lnichols- yes bitter sweet but at least the monster was caught.  I don't think he can get out of it this time.

I agree, about time.  It is good to see you... been way to long. 
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« Reply #1194 on: June 03, 2010, 11:25:34 PM »

Hello Monkeys... I have not been on here in quite sometime, but have always been keeping up... I just had to write today.. A bitter sweet morning, a young girl dead, and Joran FINALLY arrested. 


Great to see you in the cage!

Yes it is sad...this is from Stephany's funeral today.  I can help but think that beam of light is from heaven...and Natalee is holding her hand.  :monkeytears:

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1195 on: June 03, 2010, 11:31:31 PM »

Did Greta say it was Beth, or did this come directly from a family member?   I'm not convinced it was Beth. I am leaning toward JQK or sting. 

Either way, Joran is responsible and no one in Natalee's family should feel any sense of guilt.  I m only glad that he will finally be stopped, and sorry that another life was lost.   


I have not heard directly that it was Beth who Joran tried to extort, however....I believe that
she is the only family member living in Birmingham and they said it was a family member.

I don't think Jug would be considered a family member now that he and Beth are divorced.

I thought Nancy said it was a possible sting?

She did, iirc her reasoning and that of the person that agreed with her was that whoever was on the Alabama side of the transaction was not named in the document.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1196 on: June 03, 2010, 11:33:32 PM »

Hello Monkeys... I have not been on here in quite sometime, but have always been keeping up... I just had to write today.. A bitter sweet morning, a young girl dead, and Joran FINALLY arrested. 


Great to see you in the cage!

Yes it is sad...this is from Stephany's funeral today.  I can help but think that beam of light is from heaven...and Natalee is holding her hand.  :monkeytears:

I love that picture, that is what it looks like.  Great to see again!


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« Reply #1197 on: June 03, 2010, 11:33:43 PM »

once a week minimum and i just walk around with an aruba sucks t shirt

they tried to ban me             THEY COULDNT


hahahahahahhh

<----------------- smoking a big old cigar    (  been waiting over 5 years )

i quite smoking cigs almost 2 years ago  but i have been saving a nice ol cigar for this DAY



the fat ugly pig son of satan is toast  and all of the FAT PIGS in aruba and the netherlands that
did nothing can go straight to hell


tomorrow i will wear a new T SHIRT to the airport that says ( The pig is in the cage
dont go to aruba it sucks  )



puff puff puff puff 


lol.  Do you still go to the airport after all this time?  Good to see you again.
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« Reply #1198 on: June 03, 2010, 11:35:29 PM »

Did Greta say it was Beth, or did this come directly from a family member?   I'm not convinced it was Beth. I am leaning toward JQK or sting. 

Either way, Joran is responsible and no one in Natalee's family should feel any sense of guilt.  I m only glad that he will finally be stopped, and sorry that another life was lost.   


I have not heard directly that it was Beth who Joran tried to extort, however....I believe that
she is the only family member living in Birmingham and they said it was a family member.

I don't think Jug would be considered a family member now that he and Beth are divorced.

I thought Nancy said it was a possible sting?

She did, iirc her reasoning and that of the person that agreed with her was that whoever was on the Alabama side of the transaction was not named in the document.
Yeah, with no one named they were thinking it could have been a set up for Joran. 
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« Reply #1199 on: June 03, 2010, 11:36:42 PM »

Hi, Robots!

Good to see you here.
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