Natalee Case Discussion #739 3/3 - 3/5/08

[klaasend]

I wish I were organized like Janet....but I am not.
I think it was on his my space or the one with the bloody
bathtub pictures.  I'll bet Klaas remembers.

It was on Val's myspace.  The bloody bathtub pic was on one of Joran's friends sites I think (not Vals).

[Destiny]

I don't believe they have found Natalee's remains. I see and visit with Beth's Mom at least once a week, usually more, and she could not keep that secret. There are plenty or real mysteries with which to deal. It would be great though. I have a feeling that Beth would be with her Mom if that had happened as well.

Is it possible that the testing is not complete, and Beth doesn't know anything to share yet??

I listened to Dr.Baden very closely when he spoke and If Natalee was found wrapped in something in very deep waters,DNA testing would be very easy to do as the body would be well preserved. However a body found in only 90 feet of water totally exposed after several years,my guess would be that it would be quite difficult and take a great deal of time. Like some were talking earlier they can reconstruct the skull to determine what the face looked like,they have a couple of experts that do a amazing job at that.

P.S. I am not saying she was found or wasnt. My thought is something is obviously fishy with that cage and there is more to it.

Astute Observation....

KLASS...OE obviously doesn't have a problem with us *speculating* amongst ourselves...how do you feel about posting the 6 original photos sent to the front page...just to help us keep our skills honed...and to keep us out of trouble

[Magnolia]

I wish I were organized like Janet....but I am not.
I think it was on his my space or the one with the bloody
bathtub pictures.  I'll bet Klaas remembers.

It was on Val's myspace.  The bloody bathtub pic was on one of Joran's friends sites I think (not Vals).

Thank you, Klaas.....I thought it was one of the two.
That is what always made me think of the baseball bat.

[Tamikosmom]

Good Night Monkeys.

A game serious game of Scrabble with hubby tonight.  The stakes are high ... I hope I win.

Janet
7:45 PM

[klaasend]

Destiny - I'm not going to repost them again, they've been brought forward several times by others. 

[Observer]

Ok here is the guy that was busted in Miami...Who is he connected to CAPS?

Awemainta March 4th 2008
Maiky Farro (53 yrs old)

[Dayhiker]

You know Peter much better than we do being in Holland, but we have heard that he not only investigates murders with vigor but like to bust the occasional corrupt politician as well. Is this true?

he did so many cases.
http://www.peterrdevries.nl/tekst/dossierindextot.htm

about corrupt officials, right out of my head:

1. exposed a public prosecutor (Tonino) with child porn on his computer. Tonino put his computer with the garbage, that's how peter r. got hold of the computer. the public prosecutor got suspended.

2. exposed the upcoming reserve queen (mabel wisse smit) as having a relationship with dutch biggest gangster Klaas Bruinsma in the 80s. mabel wisse smit lied about this to the prime minister Balkenende. prince johan-friso (son of queen beatrix) lost his right to the dutch throne because of this.

3. exposed dutch secret service (AIVD) trying to frame the later assassinated pim fortuyn as if he had sex with underage drugs addicted moroccan boys.
(pim fortuyn got assassinated a week before the elections as he was leading the polls)

4. exposed dutch board of procureurs generaal violating parking rules right outside the dutch OM headoffice.

5. exposed officials of the dutch police national headquarters violating parking rules outside the hq's.
head of police promised change. year later the violating was still going on.

6. exposed a police officer (possible drugging and) changing the will (testament) of multiple old, dying people so he inherited their money / real estate.

i am sure i forgot something.

most of these involved hidden camera.

Thanks caesu! It looks like Peter does have a knack for bring down corrupt public officials. Aruba would be heaven for such an investigation.

[klaasend]

Good Night Monkeys.

A game serious game of Scrabble with hubby tonight.  The stakes are high ... I hope I win.

Janet
7:45 PM

Nite Janet - you'll win..I'm sure of it 

[jackb]

I wish I were organized like Janet....but I am not.
I think it was on his my space or the one with the bloody
bathtub pictures.  I'll bet Klaas remembers.

It was on Val's myspace.  The bloody bathtub pic was on one of Joran's friends sites I think (not Vals).

Thank you, Klaas.....I thought it was one of the two.
That is what always made me think of the baseball bat.

  That would be interesting to have.  Anyone got it?  The Val's my space thing and saying.      j/b

[private eye]

I don't believe they have found Natalee's remains. I see and visit with Beth's Mom at least once a week, usually more, and she could not keep that secret. There are plenty or real mysteries with which to deal. It would be great though. I have a feeling that Beth would be with her Mom if that had happened as well.

Is it possible that the testing is not complete, and Beth doesn't know anything to share yet??

I listened to Dr.Baden very closely when he spoke and If Natalee was found wrapped in something in very deep waters,DNA testing would be very easy to do as the body would be well preserved. However a body found in only 90 feet of water totally exposed after several years,my guess would be that it would be quite difficult and take a great deal of time. Like some were talking earlier they can reconstruct the skull to determine what the face looked like,they have a couple of experts that do a amazing job at that.

P.S. I am not saying she was found or wasnt. My thought is something is obviously fishy with that cage and there is more to it.

I guess nothing is impossible, and I would be thrilled to be wrong, but I don't think so.

[Destiny]

Destiny - I'm not going to repost them again, they've been brought forward several times by others. 

Sorry Klaas...was not aware...Thank You.

[klaasend]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=28677295

Description:  We went to chill in a local bar in Noord, Aruba. This old man came to talk to us about a maiky farro that had stole something somewhere.

 

[klaasend]

Destiny - I'm not going to repost them again, they've been brought forward several times by others. 

Sorry Klaas...was not aware...Thank You.

I'm pretty sure they were posted in this thread earlier today.

[klaasend]

I wish I were organized like Janet....but I am not.
I think it was on his my space or the one with the bloody
bathtub pictures.  I'll bet Klaas remembers.

It was on Val's myspace.  The bloody bathtub pic was on one of Joran's friends sites I think (not Vals).

Thank you, Klaas.....I thought it was one of the two.
That is what always made me think of the baseball bat.

  That would be interesting to have.  Anyone got it?  The Val's my space thing and saying.      j/b

Jackb - it was so early in the case most of us (me in particular) didn't even think to save it.  Since then of course that Myspace is long gone and he's started a new one.

[martini]

thumbs-down: an act, instance, or sign of disapproval, a hand signal, interpreted to be negative, which consists of a fist, sideways, with the thumb pointing to the ground, below satisfactory or unacceptable.

When Roman gladiators received the thumbs down signal, it meant that a he was to live. It signified that the guards were to put their swords into the ground.

PERSISTENCE: This is the companion word to "patience." Both are firm requirements in dealing with people from other societies around the world. http://www.csupomona.edu/~tassi/gestures.htm

By their fruits (and hand gestures) ye shall know them...

Note to K~ you are one cool dude...if only I was 20 years younger.
Please take my post with a grain of salt. Thanks for all you do, Martini

[Observer]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=28677295

Description:  We went to chill in a local bar in Noord, Aruba. This old man came to talk to us about a maiky farro that had stole something somewhere.

 

I posted that after you..Sounds like a local guy from the Noord/Orajanstead area.

[texasmom]

Heh Heh
ribbit Miss Texasmom

ribbit  ribbit, Kermit
I was skeeerd when I posted that last quote stack that you were gonna call me on it and then look what you did....ribbit
    

sorry...I didn't know ALL the rules, my fault for the stacks

Not a problem at all for me Castaglance, I was just "ribbing" Kermit regarding a comment he made the other day.

By the way, I'm not sure I've said; WELCOME TO SCARED MONKEYS!!!

[Bladerunner]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=28677295

Description:  We went to chill in a local bar in Noord, Aruba. This old man came to talk to us about a maiky farro that had stole something somewhere.

 

I posted that after you..Sounds like a local guy from the Noord/Orajanstead area.

Surname Farro in Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
Posted by: Errol Farro (ID *****8571) Date: January 20, 2007 at 08:54:38
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My name is Errol Farro born in Aruba in 1961. I'm married and am the father of 3 sons. Farro family in Aruba is very large. I'm not sure when the first Farro came to Aruba but I suspect in the 19th century and from Italy. I'm still looking for this information. Any help with this or additional information is appreciated.

[Sea Searcher]

I don't believe they have found Natalee's remains. I see and visit with Beth's Mom at least once a week, usually more, and she could not keep that secret. There are plenty or real mysteries with which to deal. It would be great though. I have a feeling that Beth would be with her Mom if that had happened as well.

Is it possible that the testing is not complete, and Beth doesn't know anything to share yet??

I listened to Dr.Baden very closely when he spoke and If Natalee was found wrapped in something in very deep waters,DNA testing would be very easy to do as the body would be well preserved. However a body found in only 90 feet of water totally exposed after several years,my guess would be that it would be quite difficult and take a great deal of time. Like some were talking earlier they can reconstruct the skull to determine what the face looked like,they have a couple of experts that do a amazing job at that.

P.S. I am not saying she was found or wasnt. My thought is something is obviously fishy with that cage and there is more to it.

There were three ROV dive videos of the trap.  Video 1 : 29th Dec - ROV visual inspection of the trap.  (very small clip of this video on Dateline).  Remember, the Dateline footage was taken over our shoulders by filming the ROV monitor.  The footage is not the recorded ROV footage.
Video 2: Dec 30th - ROV and Diver visual-only inspection of trap.  This is the dive Dateline and Tim Miller witnessed, also the dive footage the screen captures I made came from that were posted by Robin at BNH.  I sent these 6 screen shots to the FBI and the FBI only. I was shocked to see them posted.  I thought we had a security breach on the boat from my workstation or a leak from the FBI.  Turns out the FBI gave them to Dave H. after he couldn't get them from me.   After Tim Miller told Dave that we found her in a trap with 99.9% certainty (this is pre-diver inspection), Dave very reasonably requested them from me.  I badly wanted to send them to him, but couldn't.  Apparently, shortly therafter the FBI send the screen shots to Dave anyway, and therefore Robin had them.
(quote from OE above)

Gosh...I hope I did this right..

I agree with your statement *******...when OE posted this, my first thoughts were..
Why send pictures of a cage that wasn't important, to the FBI ????? and one step further,
Why would the FBI send them to Dave H ????? certainly not for identification purposes..

perhaps OE has to send ALL pics to FBI no matter what's in them..I don't know and he's
not here to explain (not that he has to) but I'm really confused by this..and I also
believe that cage is important.

Forgive me if I screwed this post up...I'm new to this and a lousy typist to boot..

but I love the monkey emoticons and want to send this to my boss  all in fun...

[texasmom]

Good Night Monkeys.

A game serious game of Scrabble with hubby tonight.  The stakes are high ... I hope I win.

Janet
7:45 PM

Goodnight Janet, and Good Luck!