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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Quote from: always 1 on September 03, 2008, 10:38:49 PM
Ok, really have to go to sleep now. RM now says he want to leave about 4:30 in the am. Carpe, I might as well sleep in the car!!! I'll miss you guys. If you hear a AUGGGGGGGGGGGGhhhhhhhhhh coming from the west - that is me cause I miss my computer so much.......BYE!
Have a great trip Always1 - check in when you can!
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Quote from: always 1 on September 03, 2008, 10:38:49 PM
Ok, really have to go to sleep now. RM now says he want to leave about 4:30 in the am. Carpe, I might as well sleep in the car!!! I'll miss you guys. If you hear a AUGGGGGGGGGGGGhhhhhhhhhh coming from the west - that is me cause I miss my computer so much.......BYE!
nite always...have a fun trip!!!
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Daryl, are you still here?
I am just curious if you are involved with forensics including criminal forensics?
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Thanks guys!!!!!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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In response to the dogs with the body hunters are trained ??
Yes they are, Gale was on Nancy Grace few weeks ago and said their dogs are trained and certified.
I remember Nacy grilling her on it!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Quote from: mrskub on September 03, 2008, 10:42:56 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: Sam on September 03, 2008, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:18:16 PM
That's not correct at all. We use chloroform all the time. Along with being an old fashioned anesthetic chloroform is a standard ingredient in a forensic Phenol/Chloroform DNA extraction method. Just a guess, check the LE boyfriend. Seriously, we have pints of the stuff in the fume hoods.
If it is used for DNA extraction does that mean it is possible for it to have came from the CSI while they were doing the forensics on the car?
I so want it to be something to help convict Casey but I also would want to know for sure. JMHO
Could very well be from LE activities. Chloroform is extremely volatile and I don't see how it by itself could have survived many hot days in a Florida car trunk. Unless, and this starts to get a little complicated, so unless you are really interested in this you can depart, chloroform complexes with benzene and other benzoate derivatives. These are anti-fungal compounds commonly found in household detergents. How could this happen? There would have had to be detergents left in the trunk, incomplete rinsing, followed by chloroform from LE to allow the complexed chloroform to remain and be detected. Just my considered opinion. (I did a thesis on this.)
And you could be onto something. There were detergent bottles in the trunk.
Yes but that still doesn't explain the computer stuff for me anyways.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: Sam on September 03, 2008, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:18:16 PM
That's not correct at all. We use chloroform all the time. Along with being an old fashioned anesthetic chloroform is a standard ingredient in a forensic Phenol/Chloroform DNA extraction method. Just a guess, check the LE boyfriend. Seriously, we have pints of the stuff in the fume hoods.
If it is used for DNA extraction does that mean it is possible for it to have came from the CSI while they were doing the forensics on the car?
I so want it to be something to help convict Casey but I also would want to know for sure. JMHO
Could very well be from LE activities. Chloroform is extremely volatile and I don't see how it by itself could have survived many hot days in a Florida car trunk. Unless, and this starts to get a little complicated, so unless you are really interested in this you can depart, chloroform complexes with benzene and other benzoate derivatives. These are anti-fungal compounds commonly found in household detergents. How could this happen? There would have had to be detergents left in the trunk, incomplete rinsing, followed by chloroform from LE to allow the complexed chloroform to remain and be detected. Just my considered opinion. (I did a thesis on this.)
Thanks Daryl for your response. If I recall correctly George said there was some sort of detergent or cleaner in the trunk. No i do not have a link.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Quote from: ldstlou on September 03, 2008, 10:42:26 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 03, 2008, 10:39:50 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: Sam on September 03, 2008, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:18:16 PM
That's not correct at all. We use chloroform all the time. Along with being an old fashioned anesthetic chloroform is a standard ingredient in a forensic Phenol/Chloroform DNA extraction method. Just a guess, check the LE boyfriend. Seriously, we have pints of the stuff in the fume hoods.
If it is used for DNA extraction does that mean it is possible for it to have came from the CSI while they were doing the forensics on the car?
I so want it to be something to help convict Casey but I also would want to know for sure. JMHO
Could very well be from LE activities. Chloroform is extremely volatile and I don't see how it by itself could have survived many hot days in a Florida car trunk. Unless, and this starts to get a little complicated, so unless you are really interested in this you can depart, chloroform complexes with benzene and other benzoate derivatives. These are anti-fungal compounds commonly found in household detergents. How could this happen? There would have had to be detergents left in the trunk, incomplete rinsing, followed by chloroform from LE to allow the complexed chloroform to remain and be detected. Just my considered opinion. (I did a thesis on this.)
Daryl
- how would you explain the computer activity?
one more question. Why would they be using chloroform in trunk for DNA testing...wouldn't that be done in the lab? Is that routine to test on location like that?
Ok sorry I HAVE to chime in here. No offense to opposing Monkeys...BUT...looking back at the photo's taken of the CSI's collecting evidence, they were in full on suites just to insure against cross contamination.. I highly HIGHLY doubt that one of them would have been so brain lost that day to accidentally over pour on the chloroform, IF in fact it was used in the particular collection of evidence. I do not see the point in using the solvent to collect DNA evidence as it would defeat the whole purpose by washing the evidence away. IMO Sorry if I have offended..was not my intention.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Quote from: always 1 on September 03, 2008, 10:44:51 PM
Thanks guys!!!!!
God bless you and keep you safe as we will be missing you!
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Quote from: mrskub on September 03, 2008, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 03, 2008, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Blonde on September 03, 2008, 09:45:19 PM
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Quote from: Rowanvamp0 on September 03, 2008, 09:23:43 PM
She(Casey) doesn't have to buy nor make chloroform...Mom(Cindy)+Nurse+Hospital=chloroform. Did anyone else make this connection?
Yes, some have and I agree
Would chloroform be used in the nursing home ?
The general concensus of our members in the medical field is that Chloroform isn't used anywhere. It would not be available to Cindy Anthony. So if Casey got it she probably got it over the internet or elsewhere.
That's not correct at all. We use chloroform all the time. Along with being an old fashioned anesthetic chloroform is a standard ingredient in a forensic Phenol/Chloroform DNA extraction method. Just a guess, check the LE boyfriend. Seriously, we have pints of the stuff in the fume hoods.
Daryl, what I had said was, chloroform is not available to nurses. It's not a standard item that is stocked in a nursing home or hospital floor., although you may see it in pathology.
First off looks like my few times posting I set off a great debate here and seems we are all learning from it. I had to go back and read all the post to my comments and seen that it can be used in photography which Casey was intrested in and also seen that it's not common access for nurses just labs. I also noticed that someone posted a recipe of sorts so it also could have been temped as trying to make on her own. I also noticed that someone suggested the LE boyfriend..that seems a little unlikely didn't they have only communcation on the computer and no "physical" contact? The more I think the more likely it was something to do with a cleanup or for Casey's photography, Anyone knows if there was a dark room in the house? I believe Greta had the tour didn't notice anything like that so maybe a basement..just thinking and coming up with legitimate reason for this chemical to be found in her trunk...unless the dreaded the lab made a human error!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Quote from: Dolce on September 03, 2008, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: always 1 on September 03, 2008, 10:44:51 PM
Thanks guys!!!!!
God bless you and keep you safe as we will be missing you!
Have a safe and wonderful trip - I'm hoping this is a trip of pleasure and if not then have a safe trip!
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Quote from: klaasend on September 03, 2008, 10:03:09 PM
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When Johathan posted I was off posting a link to Dana Pretzer at Gretawire and Topix so I missed his original post when it happened. Sorry I took so long to ban him/her.
I always miss the good stuff!!
Did you use the big red banned button??
Yes
Was my first time to see the Big Red Banned Button, I was sitting here in shock LOL
Bama - I have seen two big red Banned buttons in two days and I am double scared!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Quote from: Minaa on September 03, 2008, 10:44:51 PM
In response to the dogs with the body hunters are trained ??
Yes they are, Gale was on Nancy Grace few weeks ago and said their dogs are trained and certified.
I remember Nacy grilling her on it!
Thanks Minaa
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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September 03, 2008, 10:49:08 PM »
Quote from: Rowanvamp0 on September 03, 2008, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: mrskub on September 03, 2008, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 03, 2008, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Blonde on September 03, 2008, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 03, 2008, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Rowanvamp0 on September 03, 2008, 09:23:43 PM
She(Casey) doesn't have to buy nor make chloroform...Mom(Cindy)+Nurse+Hospital=chloroform. Did anyone else make this connection?
Yes, some have and I agree
Would chloroform be used in the nursing home ?
The general concensus of our members in the medical field is that Chloroform isn't used anywhere. It would not be available to Cindy Anthony. So if Casey got it she probably got it over the internet or elsewhere.
That's not correct at all. We use chloroform all the time. Along with being an old fashioned anesthetic chloroform is a standard ingredient in a forensic Phenol/Chloroform DNA extraction method. Just a guess, check the LE boyfriend. Seriously, we have pints of the stuff in the fume hoods.
Daryl, what I had said was, chloroform is not available to nurses. It's not a standard item that is stocked in a nursing home or hospital floor., although you may see it in pathology.
First off looks like my few times posting I set off a great debate here and seems we are all learning from it. I had to go back and read all the post to my comments and seen that it can be used in photography which Casey was intrested in and also seen that it's not common access for nurses just labs. I also noticed that someone posted a recipe of sorts so it also could have been temped as trying to make on her own. I also noticed that someone suggested the LE boyfriend..that seems a little unlikely didn't they have only communcation on the computer and no "physical" contact? The more I think the more likely it was something to do with a cleanup or for Casey's photography, Anyone knows if there was a dark room in the house? I believe Greta had the tour didn't notice anything like that so maybe a basement..just thinking and coming up with legitimate reason for this chemical to be found in her trunk...unless the dreaded the lab made a human error!
We do not have basements in Florida.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Quote from: Dolce on September 03, 2008, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: ldstlou on September 03, 2008, 10:42:26 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 03, 2008, 10:39:50 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: Sam on September 03, 2008, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 03, 2008, 10:18:16 PM
That's not correct at all. We use chloroform all the time. Along with being an old fashioned anesthetic chloroform is a standard ingredient in a forensic Phenol/Chloroform DNA extraction method. Just a guess, check the LE boyfriend. Seriously, we have pints of the stuff in the fume hoods.
If it is used for DNA extraction does that mean it is possible for it to have came from the CSI while they were doing the forensics on the car?
I so want it to be something to help convict Casey but I also would want to know for sure. JMHO
Could very well be from LE activities. Chloroform is extremely volatile and I don't see how it by itself could have survived many hot days in a Florida car trunk. Unless, and this starts to get a little complicated, so unless you are really interested in this you can depart, chloroform complexes with benzene and other benzoate derivatives. These are anti-fungal compounds commonly found in household detergents. How could this happen? There would have had to be detergents left in the trunk, incomplete rinsing, followed by chloroform from LE to allow the complexed chloroform to remain and be detected. Just my considered opinion. (I did a thesis on this.)
Daryl
- how would you explain the computer activity?
one more question. Why would they be using chloroform in trunk for DNA testing...wouldn't that be done in the lab? Is that routine to test on location like that?
Ok sorry I HAVE to chime in here. No offense to opposing Monkeys...BUT...looking back at the photo's taken of the CSI's collecting evidence, they were in full on suites just to insure against cross contamination.. I highly HIGHLY doubt that one of them would have been so brain lost that day to accidentally over pour on the chloroform, IF in fact it was used in the particular collection of evidence. I do not see the point in using the solvent to collect DNA evidence as it would defeat the whole purpose by washing the evidence away. IMO Sorry if I have offended..was not my intention.
I was thinking the same thing...I only know what I watch on the forensic shows..lol..but just seems to me it would be used in lab for testing and not in collection..but I could be wrong!!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #14
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Okay for all of you Gale St. Johns fans out there - look what was posted on their site. Brianspredictions.
Brian;
Is the team aware of all the bad things Tim Miller of Texas Equisearch has said about psychics and expecially your team?
*please keep my email private
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Hi, yes we're well aware of what's he said in the past...and are above it...and like I said in the past, if still he needs any help...just ask.
I'm also not going to throw stones back at TES, even though I have some pretty bigs ones I could throw.
Brian
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You can probably come up with some logical reason for chloroform to be in the trunk of her car but I can't explain why she would need to be going to websites about chloroform too. Add to that the decomposing body.
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Quote from: klaasend on September 03, 2008, 10:51:30 PM
You can probably come up with some logical reason for chloroform to be in the trunk of her car but I can't explain why she would need to be going to websites about chloroform too. Add to that the decomposing body.
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Quote from: KnayKnay on September 03, 2008, 10:50:26 PM
Okay for all of you Gale St. Johns fans out there - look what was posted on their site. Brianspredictions.
Brian;
Is the team aware of all the bad things Tim Miller of Texas Equisearch has said about psychics and expecially your team?
*please keep my email private
reply
Hi, yes we're well aware of what's he said in the past...and are above it...and like I said in the past, if still he needs any help...just ask.
I'm also not going to throw stones back at TES, even though I have some pretty bigs ones I could throw.
Brian
Tim Miller does not believe in psychics and that is his right.
I happen to know of at least one fraudulent event on Brians site so to each their own.
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I changed my avitar for a little while to show off my grandbaby T.J.
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===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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