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Reply #220 on:
July 06, 2007, 10:55:50 PM »
Quote from: "mrs. red"
As for Al Quida... it's why Gitmo and the "humilation" of the prisoners... oh pictures don't bother me... they are the inhumane ones. I could rant for about days on that one...
what if julia was dirty hand? just a guess from something someone just posted and I am not sure why that popped into my head...
Hummm I never thought of that.
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Music thread.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhR36gV6vW4
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Quote from: BTgirl
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Port Valerie"
There was a truly awful post about al qaeda here late this afternoon. I can't find it now. Did it get deleted?
Where? In this forum?
((edit - the link is bad enough))
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Klaas, I copied it from the previous thread, so you might want to look at deleting it there too for people who are reading back to catch up.l
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July 06, 2007, 10:58:41 PM »
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
A little too flowery considering Paulus lied about where he was at 4:00 am. This sounds like an apologist. Thanks, but no thanks. Paulus' time line has been too obscured by himself and exposed by the courts, and stack on the ALE/PROS theory that he WAS involved with both her disappearance and the movement of her body, ain't buying.
You could be right. But, Paulus could have come home and joined Joran's little party later. Joran could have been the 'baby-sitter'. Apparently no one was aware that little bro, Val, was up at 2:30 in the morning on the internet. So much went on at 2:30ish that morning, didn't it.
For sure TS, the charges he was brought in on suggest he is not only suspected in the disappearance of Natalee, but the death of Natalee. This implies he could have been in on a rape and murder. That post seemed to gloss over his involvement because of some supposed mistress when in fact there are deeper suspicions that do not even concern her. Much has been said by the apologists that the Dutch bring bigger acusations that they really intend, but are they that stupid?
I see where you are coming from. I agree Paulus is in this up to his azz. I don't think the Dutch are that stupid. I think it has all been very calculated. They did not know how to handle someone like Beth who would not go away and that made things tough in Aruba.
If Paulus left the casino and hooked up with a mistress thinking Joran went home to be there with the younger boys it would make sense that the pickup time by Paulus was not 11:00 pm. Joran had many friends that could have dropped him off at home before he had Deepak pick him up for the hunt at CnC's.
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Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Music thread.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhR36gV6vW4
I wub that song.
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Hugging Nemo. Night all.
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Nite
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Hugging Nemo. Night all.
Night, Lalas and other monkeys who are left. It toothbrush time here, so I'm heading out as well.
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Quote from: "Dayhiker"
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Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Easy ... a friend emailed a quote from the Vanity Fair article which reveals when and how Beth connected with Julia and Angela.
Janet
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Vanity Fair Article
Nightmare in Paradise
January 2, 2006
When Beth walked into the paper's office the day after she arrived,
Renfro, a statuesque blonde, stopped the presses to run a front-page photograph of Natalee. Renfro and Munzenhofer both have children, and they identified with Beth's desperation; the three women became inseparable. The first flyers posted around the island carried two numbers people could call with tips: Renfro's and Munzenhofer's cell phones. "At the beginning, I was the one Beth trusted," says Munzenhofer. "She called me her angel. We were with them day and night. We weren't reporters. We were family. Beth told us that."
Poor Beth. All she wanted was to get the word out about her daughter and she unknowingly was dealing with the devil's spawn.
Beth was not attuned to the evil that exists on Aruba when she first arrived. The learning curve had to be overcome, but when they didn't bring in the main suspects after 10 days she figured it out. She went in looking for justice but discovered, as we all have, there was none to be found on Aruba.
Dayhiker ... you have it pegged perfectly.
Good Night Dayhiker ... Good Night Monkeys (8:00 PM)
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December 5, 2005
TWITTY: ... within 72 hours, we knew that their first story was totally fabricated, that within the first 72 hours, I faced a room of 12 -- at least 12 detectives, Aruban and Dutch detectives, and a lead detective, Dennis Jacobs (ph), and they knew after we reviewed video footage from the Holiday Inn casino lobby that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. They knew that those suspects were fabricating a story from day one.
<snipped>
TWITTY: ... something that the family knew—and we have to keep reminding everyone—after 72 hours -- 72 hours—we knew definitively that these suspects were not telling the truth. We knew that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. Of course we were becoming frustrated. Who wouldn‘t, at this point? You know, we—and what was so unbelievable about this, is they knew this information and still chose to pursue the two security guards on.
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July 06, 2007, 11:05:13 PM »
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hugging Nemo. Night all.
You are leaving and I just made a tango stab....
OK... where did y'all put my monkeys? I don't like this bizarro monkey world...
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J/K... nite lala's
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July 06, 2007, 11:08:44 PM »
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Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Port Valerie"
There was a truly awful post about al qaeda here late this afternoon. I can't find it now. Did it get deleted?
Where? In this forum?
((edit - the link is bad enough))
deleted by request - OLDFART by quoting it you caused more work - people always have the option not to open a link
Not to push but the above addy needs be deleted too Sorry but Just Not here JMO
Right! I know I only log in to see who has email and whose is working quickly enough, etc. We wouldn't want anything to be off that important topic for sure!
Going to go watch HOUSE.
Goodnight, all.
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That sounds great Oldfart!! I'll have to get in touch with Sunny, and we'll have to let Indydan know too. The next few weeks are crazy for me, but maybe before scho ol starts back.
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July 06, 2007, 11:11:32 PM »
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Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Here's an interesting post from major wager I had not seen before:
07-09-2005, 05:06 AM
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RE:Anyone else following this Natalee Holloway case?
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foghorn,
Not much. What I forgot to mention and was told long time ago already is that Paulus van der Sloot, the father of Joran, probably has a mistress and was seeing his mistress the night that Natalee disappeared. The reason why Joran has been giving conflicting statements about what happened the night may very well have to do with the fact that Joran was helping his father covering up his father's night out by saying that his father had to pick him up, which then later turned out not to be so good for the father, as it was then thought that the father had something to do with the disappearance of Natalee.
So he was seeing his mistress and left the other two boys home with Joran. Well I never believed the boys were home with Paulus so this could very well have happened. This even makes more sense that Joran had a party at the Van der Sloot home.
Paulus is protecting Joran and Joran is protecting Paulus.
and some people would be hurt if the full truth came out!
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Thanks for cleaning the cage. I'll say goodnight. May all have pleasant dreams.
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Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:13 am
The Arawaks make the cowboys dance so the smoke signals are lost in the wind
How can one hunt for lions without a local guide?
How can one hunt for lions with fishing gear?
DirtyHand still commands Arawak war parties, confusing outlanders…
Time is the enemy of the cowboys
and friend to the Arawaks, the Babylonians, and the hunted Jungle beasts
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Hence the thought that Julia is dirtyhand.
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July 06, 2007, 11:17:18 PM »
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Shango Says:
June 30th, 2005 at 2:13 am
The Arawaks make the cowboys dance so the smoke signals are lost in the wind
How can one hunt for lions without a local guide?
How can one hunt for lions with fishing gear?
DirtyHand still commands Arawak war parties, confusing outlanders…
Time is the enemy of the cowboys
and friend to the Arawaks, the Babylonians, and the hunted Jungle beasts
The friend is Julia Renfro
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That sounds great Oldfart!! I'll have to get in touch with Sunny, and we'll have to let Indydan know too. The next few weeks are crazy for me, but maybe before scho ol starts back.
Snoopy
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If you do not have mine I will post MY JUNK account for you to use l
But have a thought on Monkey Meet
I thought I had yours too, but I don't. Post your junk one, and I'll send ya an email before I go nighty night.
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Hence the thought that Julia is dirtyhand.
Very good mrs. red. Why do we assume the dirty hand is a male.
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Quote from: "mrs. red"
Hence the thought that Julia is dirtyhand.
Very good mrs. red. Why do we assume the dirty hand is a male.
Good eve Monkeys. Interesting point there.
Why do we assume the dirty hand is a male.
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