Kyron Horman, 7 years old, PORTLAND, OR #21 8/17/10 - 8/19/10

[doubledecker]

KAREN KERR

Office:PRUDENTIAL R.E. PROFESSIONALS
http://karenkerr.homesandland.com/

[doubledecker]

He answered, he's 41.

So, not the person in the legal papers before. Maybe it was his father, uncle?

He must've been 8 at the 1977 MBA thing.

Could be.

What legal papers?

[Deenie]

Is this all we are going to get out of Jason? It is like the last presser. We thought we were going to get info., but then we got 'no comment'. I understand that he has a limit on what he can say, but...

Yup, a lot of words and nothing is said...

Well.. Jason seems to be telling us what he wants us to know, at first anyway.  And answering some questions along the way.  Perhaps he intends to go back and answer any missed questions as he has time.   

Well he ignored all my questions, and after I brought the wine even! Every time I hop to that thread and he's in the rafters, he leaves. I showered, so I don't know what the problem is. 

He says he is not married and has no kids. He enjoyed the 1977 MBA playoffs, so he must be (as per wyks) late 30s/early 40s.

Someone who stays single that old... umm... it's not you, hon.

I found a guy that was posting under the name of Slaphappypappy- a body building site. 
which led me to this article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2133230/posts
( I do not understand the comments ) It shows replies to posts -yet not the original post. Unless you need to be on Internet Explorer?
Go to the link and see that the article was written by Maxine Bernstein
Canby(Oregon) cop bought steroids on the job, FBI says
The Oregonian ^ | Saturday November 15, 2008, 9:20 PM | by Maxine Bernstein

Scroll down to the comments- right above/under the comment with the Blue Waving flag is a comments written to Slaphappypappy. I have no clue where his posts are/that ppl responded to him.
Snip from the article: The article is about illegal activity and Steroid use Oregon -written 2008
Canby police had received numerous complaints about Deason and his alleged steroid use as early as 2001. Deason's two former wives also filed multiple domestic violence complaints against Deason with Canby police or the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office between 2001 and 2005. He was not charged with domestic abuse, but police directed Deason to get anger management counseling.

Deason's second wife, now Andrea Lyons, told the FBI she suspected Deason was using steroids when they were dating. She increasingly feared his mood swings, violent temper and his size. In 2001, she found syringes and small plastic vials of liquid in his gym bag, along with a handwritten list of steroids and their costs. She said when she asked Deason about it, he "blew it off" and told her to throw out the paper. She kept it and later turned it over to the FBI.

[Deenie]

How old does one has to be to enjoy the 1977 MBA playoff championship?

Older than dirt  

Seriously though, I suppose someone 40ish could as a child remember it.

Edited to add:  Actually someone 40 would have been Kyron's age and could have remembered it if it was a big deal in their family.

I agree - I remember sporting events myself, me even at Kyron's Age, that were HUGE within our Family 

[melisb]

Is this all we are going to get out of Jason? It is like the last presser. We thought we were going to get info., but then we got 'no comment'. I understand that he has a limit on what he can say, but...

Yup, a lot of words and nothing is said...

Well.. Jason seems to be telling us what he wants us to know, at first anyway.  And answering some questions along the way.  Perhaps he intends to go back and answer any missed questions as he has time.   

Well he ignored all my questions, and after I brought the wine even! Every time I hop to that thread and he's in the rafters, he leaves. I showered, so I don't know what the problem is. 

He says he is not married and has no kids. He enjoyed the 1977 MBA playoffs, so he must be (as per wyks) late 30s/early 40s.

Someone who stays single that old... umm... it's not you, hon.

I'm 43 and I remember Match Game '77.  The old game show with 6 celebs and 2 contestants who try to match funny logical answer.  Was on in the afternoon following soaps I believe.  Possible he's just the same age as me or a couple years older and would remember the playoffs.  Harlem Globe Trotters were super popular then and I recall that.  You find it hinky he's still single too?  Wait don't get offended anyone!  Let me say he seems on the outside to be a catch so it's unusual he's single.  That sound better?  I must admit, now you can boo hiss me, I tend to get a little nervous when I find out a single, approaching middle age man is somewhat consumed with childrens interests.  It's just me and I am sure he's done nothing but wonderful, charitable things for kids.  Like I said, it's just the overprotective Mom in me.  Radar always on!  This is all MOO and definately not to slander anyone and I do believe he's hinted to the very thing I honed in on.  JW would understand my concerns.  If I needed help and he was to offer I would not turn it down.

[shy-monkey]

I remember why the bloggers started in on her, it was because of her chit chat on facebook the evening of the 4th, I recently read her page and was disgusted beyond words, in the middle of all the prayers came her post about don't watch the news, then she was back to fb business as usual.

My opinion is, someone that sits on their a** surfing the internet, when they have a little 7 year old missing and yet can't see what the big deal is emailing, texting, talking on the phone, or new phone they found a way to get etc has very serious mental issues at minimum!

Were the posters on Oregonliveand news outlets etc, facebook,  already accusing her on the  evening of June 4 or the morning of June 5th? 

If not..I think she she has issues of paranoia due to guilt.

 

oh yeah either way I totally agree she has issues, not sure if their guilt caused or paranoia do to everyone looking in the right direction and her knowing she's at risk of getting caught. Even had the posts been as early as the 4th, had she been the concerned parent she claimed to be she wouldn't have found out then, because she wouldn't have had time to surf the web.

 Even in the remote chance someone told her something about people online who were blaming her, it speaks volumes about her self centered character for her to drop everything and put defending her greatness to a bunch of unknown people, as she put it "who don't know the facts" against a little 7 year old boy, she had lived with, cared for and claimed she loved like a son. 

That type behavior alone makes her look like nothing less than an idiot, watching her over and over say and do idiotic things AND  not have a clue what the big deal was leaves me speechless.

Her math -missing 7 year old child I loved like my own son + failed MFH plot, so husband's still alive= make ME my own support page

husband's extremely upset over missing son + cops are beginning to look at me = use trackable phone to sext husband's friend helping with the search

[O4Bull]

By all appearances LE assumed this was a kidnapping, LE staked out in home, FBI called immed., all fam members staying together or so it seems to me.  Wasn't it mentioned somewhere by TH or KH that LE wanted them to go on about their day as normal?  Maybe that is the reason for posting on FB and going to the gym and for not speaking out sooner.  I agree all of that looked bad but if that's what LE wanted you to do wouldn't you do it?  Just can't wrap my head around TH and DDS ending Kyron's life.  I'm gonna hold on to the belief that he is stashed for safety against whatever TH believed to be done or could be done to Kyron.  Maybe it was only in TH's head but I just hoping for the best outcome that could be.

Isn't it funny he even mentions DDS may just have turned to another woman after him?  I read that to my hubby and he said what JW said could be taken two different ways...A.  I ruined her so good she'll never be able to love another man like she does me or,  B.  She's so turned off to men now she'll only date women.  lol!  lol!

LOL, your husband is right, it's an "either - or " 

[can]

Well, maybe I'm missing something but I expected more direct answers to questions asked.  In a nutshell, I'm disappointed.

Some are asking why Jason is single @ 41.  Wonder if he has ever been married, perhaps when he was much younger?

What could be more sinister than secreting away an innocent child or having any part or knowledge thereof and not coming forward with it.
If any of this is true, - if DeDe is involved - if, if, if?

[melisb]

Deenie, if I understand the article right it is about a cop using steroids who was sorta investigated and not much done with.  It does appear that SlapHappyPappy did comment on the article.  Since JW is/was involved in LE somewhat I would say it does appear to be him.  Only a guess but I looky likey he did.  Says he's been a member since 2007.

[Tamikosmom]

I have yet to receive a response from Jason to my following inquiry.  If true ... it may not have anything to do with the Kyron Horman case but ... it is disturbing nevertheless.

Janet

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Hi Jason ... me again.

Is William Kent Name Redacted2 a relative?  Does/Did he have any connection to "Friends of Pimpollo" or any of the children's ministries that you have affliliation?

Thanks

Janet

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UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

District of Oregon

PRESS ROOM
 
09/21/2009
 
Portland Businessman Sentenced to Four Years in Federal Prison in Child Pornography Case

Portland, Ore. – A Portland businessman was sentenced to prison this morning in federal court following his plea of guilty to possessing child pornography.  William Kent Name Redacted2, 67, was sentenced by Senior U.S. District Judge Garr M. King to four years in prison followed by a ten-year term of supervised release, and was fined $12,500.  The fine was ordered remitted to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in Alexandria, Virginia.  Name Redacted2, who has been out of custody pending sentencing, must report to begin serving his sentence on January 21, 2010.

The charge against Name Redacted2 arose from a nationwide undercover investigation conducted by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which focused on commercial Internet web sites that offered images of child pornography to paid subscribers.  The investigation revealed that Name Redacted2 paid for subscription access to at least one commercial child pornography web site.  Name Redacted2 eventually admitted to paying for subscription access to commercial child pornography web sites, and to downloading images and videos of child pornography.  Child pornography was found on Name Redacted2’s home computer, an external hard drive at his residence, and a laptop computer he used at work.

Name Redacted2 is the founder and president of Graphic Sciences, Inc. (“GSI”), which, according to sentencing materials he filed, produces environmentally friendly inks and coatings for the flexographic printing industry.  GSI employs approximately 70 full- and part-time employees in offices in a number of states and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

In imposing the sentence, Judge King balanced Name Redacted2’s background and lack of criminal history against what he described as the “evils” of child pornography.  At the sentencing hearing, Name Redacted2 acknowledged that child pornography is “terrible stuff,” and expressed remorse for his conduct

This case was brought as part of Project Safe Childhood, a nationwide initiative to combat the growing epidemic of child sexual exploitation and abuse launched in May 2006 by the Department of Justice.  Led by United States Attorneys’ Offices and the Criminal Division's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section (CEOS), Project Safe Childhood marshals federal, state and local resources to better locate, apprehend and prosecute individuals who exploit children via the Internet, as well as to identify and rescue victims.  For more information about Project Safe Childhood, please visit www.projectsafechildhood.gov.

This case was investigated by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and was prosecuted by Assistant U. S. Attorney Gary Sussman, Project Safe Childhood Coordinator for the District of Oregon U.S. Attorney’s Office.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/or/PressReleases/2009/20090921_Wishart.html


Jason Name Redacted

Embassy Enterprises

Giving Back
 
Embassy Enterprises was founded in June 1993 by Jason Name Redacted. Mr. Name Redacted is a child advocate who has been a volunteer with the Citizen Review Board of Multnomah County for 10 years in November 2008. Currently he is a 6 time Oregon Supreme Court Appointee (Citizen Review Board) and became the youngest male in Oregon history to be elected to serve as a Judicial Advisor with his July 2006 election to the State Advisory Council. In his capacity as a Citizen Review Board Member, Mr. Name Redacted provides judicial oversight to the cases of children placed in state custody. Through this process, he ensures that each child is safe, healthy and has a permanent place to call home.

n 1994, Mr. Name Redacted started sponsoring children through the Christian Children’s Fund out of Richmond, Virginia. In 2002, he was inducted into the “Friends of Children" Society from the accumulated total of gifts to CCF over the years. This is a Fortune 500 charitable organization with a 92% contribution to child efficiency rate.

In 2003, Mr. Name Redacted began sponsoring orphans in Mexico through the “Friends of Pimpollo” child outreach organization based in Salem, Oregon and headed by Mr. John Kerr. This is not only a financial assistance program but a hands-on program as well. Twice a year, “Friends of Pimpollo” sends teams of volunteers down into the poorest parts of Mexico and completes a construction project to benefit the children of Pimpollo.

http://www.embassyenterprises.biz/giving.html

[pfaubush]

I followed the Jonesr posts all the way to the bitter end (and argued along the way). I got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach with the whole thing, but it was like a train wreck that I couldn't look away from. I'm starting to get the same feeling with Jason Name Redacted. I think there is something 'offish'.

OTH, I guess we are all over TH for keeping her mouth shut, but then when someone pokes their head out and does talk, they get the same treatment. I just find it odd that someone that has had nothing to do with her in a year felt the need to involve himself in such a manner...going to the press, instead of just sticking to le.

 

[Claycat]

Video #4 is up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQFR5KhqXxE&playnext=1&videos=vqZs4N4W0bY&feature=sub

[can]

Is this all we are going to get out of Jason? It is like the last presser. We thought we were going to get info., but then we got 'no comment'. I understand that he has a limit on what he can say, but...

Yup, a lot of words and nothing is said...

Well.. Jason seems to be telling us what he wants us to know, at first anyway.  And answering some questions along the way.  Perhaps he intends to go back and answer any missed questions as he has time.   

Well he ignored all my questions, and after I brought the wine even! Every time I hop to that thread and he's in the rafters, he leaves. I showered, so I don't know what the problem is. 

He says he is not married and has no kids. He enjoyed the 1977 MBA playoffs, so he must be (as per wyks) late 30s/early 40s.

Someone who stays single that old... umm... it's not you, hon.

I'm 43 and I remember Match Game '77.  The old game show with 6 celebs and 2 contestants who try to match funny logical answer.  Was on in the afternoon following soaps I believe.  Possible he's just the same age as me or a couple years older and would remember the playoffs.  Harlem Globe Trotters were super popular then and I recall that.  You find it hinky he's still single too?  Wait don't get offended anyone!  Let me say he seems on the outside to be a catch so it's unusual he's single.  That sound better?  I must admit, now you can boo hiss me, I tend to get a little nervous when I find out a single, approaching middle age man is somewhat consumed with childrens interests.  It's just me and I am sure he's done nothing but wonderful, charitable things for kids.  Like I said, it's just the overprotective Mom in me.  Radar always on!  This is all MOO and definately not to slander anyone and I do believe he's hinted to the very thing I honed in on.  JW would understand my concerns.  If I needed help and he was to offer I would not turn it down.

I would never boo hiss you melisb.  Keep your radar on! 
I was like you when raising my kids...and if anyone ever suggested over protectiveness I would always tell them to think what they like, no one would cry more for them than their father and I.  Period!

[O4Bull]

Is this all we are going to get out of Jason? It is like the last presser. We thought we were going to get info., but then we got 'no comment'. I understand that he has a limit on what he can say, but...

Yup, a lot of words and nothing is said...

Well.. Jason seems to be telling us what he wants us to know, at first anyway.  And answering some questions along the way.  Perhaps he intends to go back and answer any missed questions as he has time.   

Well he ignored all my questions, and after I brought the wine even! Every time I hop to that thread and he's in the rafters, he leaves. I showered, so I don't know what the problem is. 

He says he is not married and has no kids. He enjoyed the 1977 MBA playoffs, so he must be (as per wyks) late 30s/early 40s.

Someone who stays single that old... umm... it's not you, hon.

I'm 43 and I remember Match Game '77.  The old game show with 6 celebs and 2 contestants who try to match funny logical answer.  Was on in the afternoon following soaps I believe.  Possible he's just the same age as me or a couple years older and would remember the playoffs.  Harlem Globe Trotters were super popular then and I recall that.  You find it hinky he's still single too?  Wait don't get offended anyone!  Let me say he seems on the outside to be a catch so it's unusual he's single.  That sound better?  I must admit, now you can boo hiss me, I tend to get a little nervous when I find out a single, approaching middle age man is somewhat consumed with childrens interests.  It's just me and I am sure he's done nothing but wonderful, charitable things for kids.  Like I said, it's just the overprotective Mom in me.  Radar always on!  This is all MOO and definately not to slander anyone and I do believe he's hinted to the very thing I honed in on.  JW would understand my concerns.  If I needed help and he was to offer I would not turn it down.

we're on the same branch.  I am not one to beat around the bush, and told him flat out I find it suspicious.  I'm trying hard to be kind, because if he's the "real deal" he is a RARE one. 

[melisb]

I have yet to receive a response from Jason to my following inquiry.  If true ... it may not have anything to do with the Kyron Horman case but ... it is disturbing nevertheless.

Janet

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Hi Jason ... me again.

Is William Kent Name Redacted2 a relative?  Does/Did he have any connection to "Friends of Pimpollo" or any of the children's ministries that you have affliliation?

Thanks

Janet

++++++

UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

District of Oregon

PRESS ROOM
 
09/21/2009
 
Portland Businessman Sentenced to Four Years in Federal Prison in Child Pornography Case

Portland, Ore. – A Portland businessman was sentenced to prison this morning in federal court following his plea of guilty to possessing child pornography.  William Kent Name Redacted2, 67, was sentenced by Senior U.S. District Judge Garr M. King to four years in prison followed by a ten-year term of supervised release, and was fined $12,500.  The fine was ordered remitted to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in Alexandria, Virginia.  Name Redacted2, who has been out of custody pending sentencing, must report to begin serving his sentence on January 21, 2010.

The charge against Name Redacted2 arose from a nationwide undercover investigation conducted by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which focused on commercial Internet web sites that offered images of child pornography to paid subscribers.  The investigation revealed that Name Redacted2 paid for subscription access to at least one commercial child pornography web site.  Name Redacted2 eventually admitted to paying for subscription access to commercial child pornography web sites, and to downloading images and videos of child pornography.  Child pornography was found on Name Redacted2’s home computer, an external hard drive at his residence, and a laptop computer he used at work.

Name Redacted2 is the founder and president of Graphic Sciences, Inc. (“GSI”), which, according to sentencing materials he filed, produces environmentally friendly inks and coatings for the flexographic printing industry.  GSI employs approximately 70 full- and part-time employees in offices in a number of states and Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

In imposing the sentence, Judge King balanced Name Redacted2’s background and lack of criminal history against what he described as the “evils” of child pornography.  At the sentencing hearing, Name Redacted2 acknowledged that child pornography is “terrible stuff,” and expressed remorse for his conduct

This case was brought as part of Project Safe Childhood, a nationwide initiative to combat the growing epidemic of child sexual exploitation and abuse launched in May 2006 by the Department of Justice.  Led by United States Attorneys’ Offices and the Criminal Division's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section (CEOS), Project Safe Childhood marshals federal, state and local resources to better locate, apprehend and prosecute individuals who exploit children via the Internet, as well as to identify and rescue victims.  For more information about Project Safe Childhood, please visit www.projectsafechildhood.gov.

This case was investigated by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and was prosecuted by Assistant U. S. Attorney Gary Sussman, Project Safe Childhood Coordinator for the District of Oregon U.S. Attorney’s Office.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/or/PressReleases/2009/20090921_Wishart.html


Jason Name Redacted

Embassy Enterprises

Giving Back
 
Embassy Enterprises was founded in June 1993 by Jason Name Redacted. Mr. Name Redacted is a child advocate who has been a volunteer with the Citizen Review Board of Multnomah County for 10 years in November 2008. Currently he is a 6 time Oregon Supreme Court Appointee (Citizen Review Board) and became the youngest male in Oregon history to be elected to serve as a Judicial Advisor with his July 2006 election to the State Advisory Council. In his capacity as a Citizen Review Board Member, Mr. Name Redacted provides judicial oversight to the cases of children placed in state custody. Through this process, he ensures that each child is safe, healthy and has a permanent place to call home.

n 1994, Mr. Name Redacted started sponsoring children through the Christian Children’s Fund out of Richmond, Virginia. In 2002, he was inducted into the “Friends of Children" Society from the accumulated total of gifts to CCF over the years. This is a Fortune 500 charitable organization with a 92% contribution to child efficiency rate.

In 2003, Mr. Name Redacted began sponsoring orphans in Mexico through the “Friends of Pimpollo” child outreach organization based in Salem, Oregon and headed by Mr. John Kerr. This is not only a financial assistance program but a hands-on program as well. Twice a year, “Friends of Pimpollo” sends teams of volunteers down into the poorest parts of Mexico and completes a construction project to benefit the children of Pimpollo.

http://www.embassyenterprises.biz/giving.html

We are SOL on getting any new answers from JW I fear.  I think you have been answered by the non answer of him stating something to the effect of I was told not to comment on the investigation, the article or family.  Sorry, I know you were hoping...like everything else in this case it's shut tighter than my  ___!!!!  Good night everyone.  Sleep well!  See ya's in the am.

[Tamikosmom]

Hi can ... I responded to your post in the Jason thread.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
10:10 PM PT

[Itaryl Moosee]

Well, maybe I'm missing something but I expected more direct answers to questions asked.  In a nutshell, I'm disappointed.

Some are asking why Jason is single @ 41.  Wonder if he has ever been married, perhaps when he was much younger?

What could be more sinister than secreting away an innocent child or having any part or knowledge thereof and not coming forward with it.
If any of this is true, - if DeDe is involved - if, if, if?

It was very nice, though self-serving, of him to come and express his thoughts. I would guess he's very nervous and, like Heather, he's afraid of all the harm that "fame" can cast upon him and his business.

So, it's understandable the redundancy of his answers and why he carefully selected the questions to answer.

Now the question is, what are those two bits of information he passed on to the police last week.

Are they more substantial than what he offered us tonight?

Gotta go. Niters!

[Puzzler]

Desiree says Kyron's "stashed".

Jason says Kyron's in a "safe house".

Jason says "...I am not giving anyone false hope by saying this, Kyron is alive and we will remember the day he is united with his family..."

Sounds like these folks think Kyron's alive.

Strange that one is a parent and the other (as far as we know) doesn't know that parent.  Very strong feelings from two such different people.

[can]

I followed the Jonesr posts all the way to the bitter end (and argued along the way). I got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach with the whole thing, but it was like a train wreck that I couldn't look away from. I'm starting to get the same feeling with Jason Name Redacted. I think there is something 'offish'.

OTH, I guess we are all over TH for keeping her mouth shut, but then when someone pokes their head out and does talk, they get the same treatment. I just find it odd that someone that has had nothing to do with her in a year felt the need to involve himself in such a manner...going to the press, instead of just sticking to le.

 

And if DeDe is such a wonderful soul as he suggests and if he thinks so highly of her and can't fathom she would ever harm a child etc. etc. why didn't he pick up the phone and offer her support. 

Why does he think his "two tips" are valuable?

Guess I just don't get it.

[can]

Hi can ... I responded to your post in the Jason thread.

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
10:10 PM PT

Oh?..you did?  Will take a look.

Rest well Janet.