Lively Case Discussion #659 7/17 - 7/19/2007

[nonesuche]

Buckeye I'm busting      

off to bed, laughing all the way.....

[Observer]

Fom Pita

Page 121 of Dave's Book
Former Police Commissioner Stanley Zaandam's statement to Dave:

Two days after Natalee's disappearance, her "body may have already been found and the police commissioner looked the other way to do a favor for Paulus van der Sloot..."  He continued that "to exculpate the son of Paulus, the police commissioner and the fiscal chief prosecutor made the false arrest of two security guards, calling this a tactical maneuver..."

[Lala'sMom]

Well whomever this Selena is, was...whatever...she had a bead on that place called Aruba.


Selena



Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Location: Southeast USA
   
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject:    Reply with quote
"Detailed crime statistics are hard to come by: In 2003, the most recent year with available data, there were 4,236 crimes, though no specifics on those against tourists. According to Aruba's attorney general, five homicides were reported last year. But police have not provided a breakdown of offenses since 1995, says Martijn Balkestein of the Central Bureau of Statistics.

The U.S. State Department's travel advice for Aruba states that "street crime is low, but there have been incidents of theft from hotel rooms. Armed robbery has been known to occur. Valuables left unattended on beaches, in cars and in hotel lobbies are easy targets for theft. Car theft, including that of rental vehicles for joy riding and stripping, can occur."

But the notesState Department's 2005 International Narcotics Control Strategy Report  that "while Aruba enjoys a low crime rate, prominent drug traffickers are establishing themselves sporadically on the island ... drugs are easily found within walking distance of Oranjestad's cruise pier and are frequently peddled to cruise ship tourists. The expanding use of (Ecstasy) in clubs by young people attracts increasing attention."
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-06-14-aruba-image_x.html
Back to top    
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger    

[Lala'sMom]

oh Lala's just an afterthought but search to see if you can find any posts by 'terry' not our Terry but just plain terry

check your email, I'll fess up why  

I think I already know. LOL

[robots]

joran is stupid

he is a liar and he is a terrible liar at that

the picture thing was a plan that an 11 year old would try to pull over on their parents..kind of like this


PARENTS
"Johnny, were you paying with matches"

Johnny
"umm....err...ahhhhh NOPE"

PARENTS
"how did you burn your fingertips"
 
Johnny
"umm...ahhh,....errrrr....i was changing the radiator fluid in the FORD"



see,,, its a ridiculous answer

JORAN IS A RIDICULOUS LIAR AND A KILLER


WHERE SUPPOSEDLY were JORAN AN NATALEE when the picture was taken ??

see, how STUPID HE IS

[Lala'sMom]

Hi Robots...was thinking of heading to bed, glad I saw you.

[robots]

Hi Robots...was thinking of heading to bed, glad I saw you.

im glad you saw me too  

[Spock]

This is very interesting and opens up some possibilities:

This is from Joran's book (pp189-190) .. very rough translation. He's speaking of police questioning that took place on June 29 and June 30

"The police question me that day for, as it happens, concerning how I was got to school  the Monday morning after the night I went out with Natalee.   I explain I can no longer remember well,  and think that I missed the school bus and that my father drove me closer where the bus could pick me up, namely, the drive-in cinema".

[robots]

This is very interesting and opens up some possibilities:

This is from Joran's book (pp189-190) .. very rough translation. He's speaking of police questioning that took place on June 29 and June 30

"The police question me that day for, as it happens, concerning how I was got to school  the Monday morning after the night I went out with Natalee.   I explain I can no longer remember well,  and think that I missed the school bus and that my father drove me closer where the bus could pick me up, namely, the drive-in cinema".

this a LOCK

he DID NOT take the BUS that day

he is hedging....

one cant remember the NEXT day????????????????????


BS

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Klaas or anybody that remembers....who was Catriana?   Is she one of the mods that eventually turned to the darkside?  Just curious?

 i am reading slowly lalas.. imo cat was a royal bitch ..bigtime.
dont care if she is around to lurk or not.. she was evil.. she sent me some nasty pms way back when and others too.   BITCH is all I can say.

[Lala'sMom]

Told you guys Wonder Woman is nutty...I think I hated her the most...well until I met the Bondia gang. LOL

WonderWoman
Monkey Junkey


Joined: 13 Jun 2005

   
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject:    Reply with quote
Selena wrote:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2086.html

transnational issues,...illicit drugs, including Exstacy



We're the idiots BUYING it!!!


UNITED STATES
consumer of cocaine shipped from Colombia through Mexico and the Caribbean; consumer of heroin, marijuana, and increasingly methamphetamine from Mexico; consumer of high-quality Southeast Asian heroin; illicit producer of cannabis, marijuana, depressants, stimulants, hallucinogens, and methamphetamine; money-laundering center

[robots]

Klaas or anybody that remembers....who was Catriana?   Is she one of the mods that eventually turned to the darkside?  Just curious?

 i am reading slowly lalas.. imo cat was a royal bitch ..bigtime.
dont care if she is around to lurk or not.. she was evil.. she sent me some nasty pms way back when and others too.   BITCH is all I can say.

hello bunny


glad to see you are telling it EXACTLY the way it is

hope you are feeling better

[Rob]

Spock, just my opinion, but the book is the least reliable source.

[Lala'sMom]

This is very interesting and opens up some possibilities:

This is from Joran's book (pp189-190) .. very rough translation. He's speaking of police questioning that took place on June 29 and June 30

"The police question me that day for, as it happens, concerning how I was got to school  the Monday morning after the night I went out with Natalee.   I explain I can no longer remember well,  and think that I missed the school bus and that my father drove me closer where the bus could pick me up, namely, the drive-in cinema".

this a LOCK

he DID NOT take the BUS that day

he is hedging....

one cant remember the NEXT day????????????????????


BS

He didn't have a next day...he had not even been to bed since he was too busy trying to hide Natalee's body and cover up evidence.  He was at Lorenzo's where Natalee was at the time.

[Lala'sMom]

Hi Angie!

I hope your arm is better.  You don't have to answer me, I understand.  Just take care of yourself and let us know how you are when you can.  

{{{HUGS}}}

[wreck]

This is very interesting and opens up some possibilities:

This is from Joran's book (pp189-190) .. very rough translation. He's speaking of police questioning that took place on June 29 and June 30

"The police question me that day for, as it happens, concerning how I was got to school  the Monday morning after the night I went out with Natalee.   I explain I can no longer remember well,  and think that I missed the school bus and that my father drove me closer where the bus could pick me up, namely, the drive-in cinema".

this a LOCK

he DID NOT take the BUS that day

he is hedging....

one cant remember the NEXT day????????????????????


BS

EXACTLY!

Like Rob pointed out this afternoon......there are about 5 different conflicting stories/alibis/accountings of what actually happened the  first 10 days. They say there is no evidence???????? the lies and inconsisitencies ARE the evidence!!!!!!!

[Lala'sMom]

I think I need to hug Nemo...I am very tired and promised myself I was going to bed early...I lied to myself again...Gosh!  I really need to get new pencils....night all.

[Rob]

There was a man sitting at the table and he looked like Paulus Van Der Sloot - wasn't this the line? right here? and who talks about their father in the fifth dimension like this?

He addresses the person sitting at the table (BECAUSE IT'S PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT) and he wants to brush it off as a nobody! Nice Try Kid Ubber Vanderlick!!!

And still no mention of Lorenzo - a pivotal player. Hot Shot Gear Head or Racing Boat Depose of Dead?

[Spock]

Spock, just my opinion, but the book is the least reliable source.

I agree, but Joran is referring to statements he gave to the police while detained. that he was picked up by the schoolbus in the southern end of the island close to Lorenzo's home. Also, Max Arends, said that he was at Lorenzo's that night for an all night party. Now if Joran was picked up in that area for school, a few hours after NH dissapeared, that opens possibilities.

[robots]

Spock wrote:

This is very interesting and opens up some possibilities:

This is from Joran's book (pp189-190) .. very rough translation. He's speaking of police questioning that took place on June 29 and June 30

"The police question me that day for, as it happens, concerning how I was got to school the Monday morning after the night I went out with Natalee. I explain I can no longer remember well, and think that I missed the school bus and that my father drove me closer where the bus could pick me up, namely, the drive-in cinema".


so, why didnt Paulus just drive him to school instead of taking him sonewhere else to THEN be picked up by the bus


ANSWER................i have it

what do you all think