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Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee

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Me First!?

I can't wait to see Elaine in her 4th of July glasses  :lol:

Here...that was a nice jump.  Did everyone make it?

Well,I hope all Monkeys are safe after the storms.Take care and nite

Night Tiger.

Goodnight Tiger.

Nite Tiger

Oh hell Joran just tell them you stopped by the house to grab your video cam and then the next night you sold the video you took to backseatbangers.com. But then they wouldn't believe such a nice boy would do such a thing would they?



BINGO

 8)

I brought over CBB's post to me:Oh, Elaine! Hon, I just found some "Star" sunglasses! You're in business for the Fourth Of July!
Thanks. can not wait to see LOL  :wink:

Heh Elaine - saw your howdy on the last thread.... am heading out but wanted to make sure to reply.  Loved the sunglass photo.... it was so "you".   :wink:

Night other monkeys.  Sleep well.

Nite Frijole

Thanks! :wink: Take care Beans! :)

Well,Crazy Baby Borg,I believe she might,if her hormones and Blood chemistry were just right.Then,she would hang herself in disgust.Dennis is Dutch.

Goodnight Tiger!

Howdy and Night dearest Klaas.... thanks for all you do.  Have loved your graphic artwork! Very entertaining.  Thanks.

Me either! Sorry everyone, I am reading backwards here LOL! :lol:

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I haven't "vamped" you yet, but I'm a girl scout: always prepared!  :wink:

Is that like listening to a song backwards.

I personally think these might look just fine .....

(http://www.dressingupboxonline.co.uk/images/products/1ba673_sm.jpg) :roll:

I'm telling Elton John that you guys are stealing his glasses.

Decisions, decisions.... red or blue?! :lol:  :D  :lol:

I couldn't resist seeing if the BackStreet Bangers was a joke.OMG,it is impossible and well some concepts are practiced by them.Who saw and watched,and is a monkey?Yes,I could believe that bunch of arubans would film it.

I LOVE IT!!!!!
Hey! Those would work to make Elaine a Turkey for Thanksgiving!!!! I'm stealing them BB!

HEHEHE He has plenty to share


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Yes, it is LOL  :lol:

It takes a village to dress Elaine, San. I think Elton's a "village people" kind of guy.  :lol:

I hate to use the "T" word. but Elton John even has a tiara.

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http://www.hautecouture.info/image/elton_john_tiara.jpg

Can you say, "Flame-ing-go"?

Beautiful :lol:

I love his music. He's extremely talented. The "crown" is well earned. He's the King/Queen of something.

LMAO! :lol:  :D

I like that Flamingo. :lol:

Did I hear Village People(I couldn't resist).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLU_mPE8k0Y

These might be good to work with too  :wink:

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ya'll are an absolute riot tonight  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I hope not! They would have found that by now? Although it may have very well been an idea....before something bad happened?

Hello Nones!

Hiya, Nonesy! I've been so busy lately, that I've missed you!
I ate all None's cookies and they were GREAT!!!!!

Now, I'm trying to exercise them off!

I found a link that you all just have to see:
http://www.shadesoffun.com/Nov/NovPgs-12.html

Klaas! I Love the glasses!

I think maybe Aruba has a few "Village People" itself....(Mambo Jambo April 7th)

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OH MY! This is just too much to behold! :shock:  :shock:

He has borrowed Elaines glasses and Rod Stewart's hair  :lol:  :lol:

Dang i blew the margins ( I hope Lala's not around).

 :smt043  :smt044

Hi Tibro, was wondering where you were!  :)

We wont tell, shhhhhhh. :wink:

I Don't Know Nuthin' Bout Blowin' No Margins!!!!!!  :shock:  :roll:

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

uhhhhh ohhhhh :?

Hi monkeys - was in the cage earlier but had things to do.  Have to go out again soon too.

cbb - are you up to mischief again?  Where is your off-sider, Hummingbird?

she's writing really fast, BB. I'd suggest turning the page real fast. 'Course I don't have any experience with this sort of thing............

Hello All,

Glad our Monkeys are safe from the recent tornadoes. Keep up the Good Work.

Klaas, my org. avatar had no hair. You and CBB have done a great makeovers for "me" for all the holidays.

Was, wondering when you have time could the popping egg be taken out and I'd just keep my avatar with the pretty hat on it?

I love the hat and it covers up the lack of hair.

Good luck on your new contract job!

Is it true that after the 2 yr. anniv. of the Natalee case and if they announce the case closed, that all papers (evidence and lack of) can be release to Beth?

Too bad someone in Aruba can't step up to the plate and admit a mistake like was done in North Carolina today!

Does this guy with the severe burns over left arm look familiar to anyone? Can't place the face ( Hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting him here Klaas , but his pic did come from an on-line website...)

(http://www.coolaruba.com/album/albums/APRIL%202007/EXIDE%20WET%20AND%20WILD%208APRIL/Wet_and_Wild_%2886%29.jpg)

(http://www.coolaruba.com/album/albums/APRIL%202007/EXIDE%20WET%20AND%20WILD%208APRIL/Wet_and_Wild_%2891%29.jpg)

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Uh.......I don't believe I've had the pleasure of meeting hummingbird? was it?  :roll:

Oh really!!!!  :roll:

Sorry, should have read "great makeovers' not "a great makeovers"

Would have been OK if I'd said "a great deal of makeovers" My brain needs more RAM!

IBE that would be nice to keep that hat - it suits you.

I hope Snoopy keeps her hat too.  So cute

Off-sider?

Huh uh, Ms Scahlett.
I dunno what made me say such a thing!

Lala's, aren't Elaine's sunglasses going to be just wonderful for the Fourth?

(is she looking at me?)

Hey, All... a bunch of silly monkeys we are tonight!

I see Elaine is the same on the boards as she is in real life....
a pair of glasses for every occasion.... all the way through
Thanksgiving.  And a tiara to match!... fit for a queen.  Sorry
Elton.

Is that another Australianism?

Means assistant or helper (in this case an accomplice)  :lol:  :lol:

 I should be in bed cause I am sicky.. couldnt sleep.
 BB  LMAO  I always thought the construction worker was sexy growing up.  Maybe thats why I married.. ummm.. well... all my hubbys were construction workers.  LMAO  Nothing like seeing a hot dude in a hard hat.. tanned.. tight jeans.. sunglasses.. sweaty and dirty   :wink:

Hi IBE!
 I remember when I had to chastise Snoopy and Sunny for being the rowdy ones in the cage.  Now, it's CBB...I just can't believe how much she has changed lately.  I bet she got one of those makeover thingys and now she's all that.  :roll:

IBE: Klaas did a great job with your Easter avatar. My bet is that she has you intact without the egg.  :wink:

bb you have a talent for finding such hunks of men :shock:  :shock:

 ROFL Tibro   :lol:

More like a "layer over"! Between Christmas and the wreck, I've GROWN!!! Layers and layers and layers!

Oh, now look what you've done! I'm craving cake!  :cry:

Hi Elaine !

CBB thank you for saying the cookies were tasty, would you say otherwise?  :lol: big smooches !!

why does my son call this late at night always?  :?

Oh yes, I even have a pair I got in Atlantic city! They are about a foot long though, so a bit big! LMAO!

Cake is good too  :lol:

How perfect jerry strawberry at C+C's on Good Friday.

(http://www.coolaruba.com/album/albums/APRIL%202007/CARLOS%20AND%20MAMBO%206APRIL/More_Carlos_More_%2822%29.jpg)

construction workers! Oh yeah! I mean ....yes, they are always working. :lol:

Angie, you need some doctoring?  I have all kinds of remedies.  :lol:

Hey, Angie! Check out the lounge: avatars.  :wink:

Sweaty hot stuff, huh? <sigh>

Well, seems I'm stuck in baby powder, myself.  :cry:  :oops:

I think I know what you mean... my daughter got a pair like that.  She
loved them and I was amazed how good they looked on her.

where did jerry find his jammin new glasses?  :lol:

Here you go IBE :wink:

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Yes the story of my life.  :?  :(  :evil:

well I think I have a bug lala's, anything in that bag of yours for me?

Elaine?

  Sistah,
  he misses mom!  :)  You have mail :)

Klaas? I KNEW you'd come through for IBE! You really do ROCK!  :wink:

They look skeeery!!!!

Who are they?  Just another run of the mill Aruban predators?
 8)

I know I know, and beleive me I am checking them out! LOL

By the way I am ONLY checking out the glasses!  :lol:

Hi My Monkeys,
Oh sure CBB, you know me as hummingchickenbird.  Led me down the road of  no good. :lol:

  LOL   :)  Well I dont mean sweaty stinky.. but.. well..  nevermind  ROFL

Uuuh huuuh!

 :roll:

I didn't say nuthin' 'bout cake.  :roll:

Hi Hummingbird.... someone was just asking about you.

Oh oh....

Hi Hummingbird! That was cute last night... :lol:

He borrowed them from Elaine.  Now he doesn't look so much like the beach stalker.

Thanks Tibro!

That made my day! It'b been a down day..actually a whole week.

The best thing going is to check in here and see all the Good Works!

OT Monday was a very happy day. I have been mentoring two girls who are now in HS.. each needed $75 to go to Auxiliary Leadership camp next week which they have been doing for the last 4 years. It has affected their lives in a positive way in the past. They are also neighbors of my in the trailer court.

Our Unit did a political thing (best words I can use for it and decided not to sponsor them). Monday was the deadline for the $$. A great person donated the $150 at 4pm! We had been praying and it worked.

I went to the store and bought 4 bags of cookie stuff and gave them a big hint... they mixed and baked them then left me a bag of cookies in my mailbox. They looked horrible and were burnt on the bottom, but they taasted good.

Next week I will get them throwaway cameras. The older one went from depression/Gothic 4 yrs ago to earning a scholarship to a college in Utah in nursing starting in July. I am so proud of her. The younger one, that I am closer to, is going through her challenging year now... ring in lip that got infected (yippee) so she had to take it out and then she shaved 1/2 of her hair... Luckily it has grown out so will be OK next week. These two things wouldn't go over well with such a Patriotic org. as the American Legion Auxiliary.

I am not sure it's still there, but there was a slide show at http://www.calegionaux.org that showed my friends at camp last year. I don't have children/// sometimes in life it's the little things that work that make us all warm and fuzzy.

Thanks for listening!

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

btw I'm going to try to have lasik soon I'm so tired of my reading glasses but I have no nose to hold up glasses  :lol:

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
I can personally attest to the fact that putting in an image search for "Construction Men Hunks" is something you don't EVEN want to do!

Hi Hummingbird.  Did we get your name wrong?  
You just watch out for mischievous monkeys - they can lead you astray sometimes.  :wink:  :wink:   Dolphins are not like that

 lalas.. I have all kinds of meds here too sweety.  They just arnt' working yet. I even took a tylenol PM about an hour ago.. I couldnt sleep and got back up out of bed.  :(   But TY!   :)

 :smt006

Teacher... Teacher!

I have a question.....

What does ROFL mean?

:smt059

Hi Elaine,
CBB was so funny I was laughing so hard at her.....

  ROFL

 I saw the Lounge sweety  and I LOVE it.. posted back to yah there  :)

ROFL = rolling on floor laughing

 :smt082

You know, I knew a lady that loved pale dusty pink. Wore it all the time. It made her look so sweet!  :lol:
You're getting a chicken beak and devil horns for the Fourth!  :lol:  :wink:

Nice to meet you, hummingbird!  :roll:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

  I laughed my butt off at you and CBB.. that was totally hilarious!  :)

Howdy IBE and anyone else I missed  :oops:

Angie ... I do believe that you had better go to bed.  You are not only feeling "sicky" ... you are down right delirious.   :oops:

I hope you are feeling better in the morning hon.

Janet

Jerry Strawberry is a DJ and friend of Steve Croes. There was a tourist in aruba who was assaulted near the fishermans huts and the composite drawing of her assailant looked like this.....highly suggestive of JS. Also one of the MBer's (Whatley? 302 mentions meeting Joran and a frien of his described as " not knowing. the ?friend's? name but remembers him to be fat and of chinese or ??Hawaiian??

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You do not always have to birth the kids, to "make them your own" so to speak. Great story here IBE!

Wow, Klaas that was fast!

Did we ever establish if Jacobs was Dutch or not?? I'd like to know so I can fit him into "Shango's words"

Hi Lala and all.

All of you get well please?

  LOL Janet.  I tryed and cant sleep  :(  Must be the fever.  and TY for the well wishes!

IBE that quite an achievement.  You must be so proud of the two girls and they will remember your help and love all their lives.  Congratulations

  BB that  sketch so looks like Jerry IMO.  Look at is and back at the other one of him at C&C;s on Good Friday.  its him or he has a twin. IMO

Fat, Chinese, or Hawaiian, but beaten hard with the ugly stick, for sure!

Nice to meet you too, have we met before?
I did meet a nice lady awhile back that help pick an Easter outfit. Now that thats over I wished I'd kept her card.

Since it's confirmed that Andre dos Santos hangs with Joran at the casinos I figured it was him in the casino.  I do believe that Jerry looks like that sketch though:

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It was funny!!!!!!

CBB was like... please just let me finish off this page!

and Hummingbird was saying, "but, I'm usually shy, I don't normally
do this sort of thing."

I don't know if that's true, but it sure had me laughing....


I'm shy, but I'll do it for you,.... this once, but that's all...
But, please ~ don't call me a chicken!

LOL

 :smt044

I cannot wait any longer - I have to go out.  Leaving the party and will BBL.
Get well soon all monkeys who do not feel 100%.  Hugs to all.

Somebody said Dutch...that is why I asked the question.  To fit into Shango.  WOW!

Awwwwww, bird. You know I love you!

Sharing traumatic experiences does that to you!  :lol:

CBB  :lol:  :lol: Tib posted fugly the other night and I nearly fell off my chair with laughter, imagine dear Tib posting that?

IBE those girls are blessed to have you in their lives !!

  IBE  O agree with Elaine!  WHat a great thing you are doing for these girls!!  :)

Stop that you wild chicks!  I know that sneaky attitude...you don't fool me. :roll:

IBE - our new monkey Tiger said earlier that Jacobs is Dutch.  
Now I must go.....

 :lol: I'm getting the screaming giggles again, None! Fugly???  :lol:

You are cracking me up tonight CBB, you are sure on a roll

  LOL Patti.. nobody should feel shy here.. :)  lol

Thanks Elaine.. no family left.. but I have a great dog and a great cat and a great cage of Monkey Friends!

Elaine remember the Peach ice cream and drink?? I was eating some and fell asleep with the carton in my hand. Later when I woke up the carton was at the end of the bed... all cleaned out (hint.. dog likes peach ice cream now)

Anyway, about an inch on the top of my laptop was sticky.. I didn't think much about it at the time.

A few weeks ago I took my computer in as it was the end of Apple Care and I wanted get its last check up. They called my back and said it would take several hundreds of dollars to clean out the ice cream it it!

I guess the dog dropped the carton on top of the computer and licked it all off the top and sides so I didn't know but it went into the computer openings in the back!

You know how Apple does the colors??? blueberry etc a long time ago..well I have a peach one!

Funny, it never smells like peach when I run it.

See ya later, Tibs!

 :wink:

  LMAO   I missed it.. !!!

Oh noooooooo I hope it holds up for you!! Yes, I know dogs love peach too, mine do, anyways! I feel bad for you though. I know I have lost a few drinks on my own keyboard here, but mainly from laughing with it in my mouth!!

IBE-

I suspect you could have your lappy's motherboard replaced by a PC repair that might not charge you as much as Apple direct? worth checking into, son spilled  coke (the drink) into his new toshiba and after being told it was a total loss of hundreds and hundreds by their service centers, I found someone to clean it out and replace the motherboard for far less?

I wish we had saved all the funnies from the forum.  There have been such good times in here.  It's like family to me.

In 8 minutes, it's going to be my birthday!

Then I won't just be fat, but older too!

CBB does have a way of pulling a chicken out of her shell.  Can't wait to see my avitar, I may not be a cute, sweet, little monkey girl any more.  Lalas hope your getten all this down.
I've got a go to bed - no matter what you pull this time CBB I'm outta here!!!! :lol:  :wink:

Oh that is great!  You know what happens now don't you?

You are right I am sure about Andre Santos , I guess he could look hawiian, and is likely to have been with Joran. Just that JS creeps me out, and i know his butt is up to no good on One Horney Island

Here she goes again, says its her birthday. I can't leave til I tell her HAPPY BIRTHDAY.  night Monkeys and CBB :roll:  :roll:

I agree, too.... that's a very loving thing to do.  Many of these girls just need someone to take the time and lend them a helping hand to keep them on the right track.  And it pays off in dividends, both for them and for the one helping.   They say you have to give love in order to receive it and I think that's true.

Every parent wishes they had a caring neighbor like you... especially, parents of teenagers.  My hat's off to you.

Wouldn't that make a great read?

I was here for the first time for a whole 5 minutes before I would have made the book. I'm not that funny, but I am that stupid!

That was when we had the "PM" button for private massage. Someone told me to check my PM. I went back and re-read my posts over and over, trying to figure out what I had said that was grouchy.

Nones, I hope that is an option for her too.

CBB !!!!!!!!!!!

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Night, Sweety, and please don't be shy around us.... you don't need to be.

Sleep tight...

Catch ya in the wee hours, bird!  :wink:  :lol:

This....




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Hope your day is the best!  Happy Birthday to CBB!

CBB is it time yet???

Happy Birthday! all day and all year!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CBB, wish I didn't type so slow.  night.

CBB what a riot about the PM !!!!!!!!  :lol:  :lol:

Angie and I joined a 'girls forum' that only does light and fun girl stuff and they say  "price check" when you have a PM and it took us weeks to figure out what in the heck a price check was?  :lol:  :lol: we had all kinds of PM's piled up  :lol:

Time for me to hug Nemo....see you guys later....Spooky can get the lights.  :wink:

Thanks for all the birthday wishes! I love you all! I feel like I have a family when I'm here!

  ROFLMAO!!   Price check on cookies sistah   :wink:
 That was too damned funny!!  :)

We are family here! A bit hairy, but family none the less!!  Goodnight monkeys...Love you all!!

Just for the record, The button was for private MESSAGE! (I'm stuck on the sweaty construction workers, and traumatized by the image search!)

Nite Elaine

Night Lalas

CBB

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You know, it funny how much we take for granted at different times in our life.

Each girl needs $15 for the expenses on the chartered bus up there and back. I am not sure why but it's in the instructions.  

Each has to take a dress for a ceremony there also.. That isn't the problem for the older girl now, as she is very active in her bew church so has lots of them now. (When I first met her she was dressed in Gothic black for months1)

The younger girl may not have one. The mom is worried about it the $15 each; but because of what I have learned from you all

Prayers work

Things will work out. Your Prayer days sure have changed me in so many different ways.

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Happy Birthday, Crazy Baby Borg!!!!!

Gee! Thanks again for the birthday wishes!  :oops:

I'm still at the office. I like this computer SO much better than the lappy I've been using. I've taken quite a break, but if I can get a few more things done, I'm taking the day off tomorrow. Soooooooo..........back to work and lurk mode!

Thanks, guys!

Happy Birthday CBB

Here is my present to you. I felt sorry for this guy. I think he needs a new set of clothes as he doesn't seem to have any, and you are so good at dressing everyone up.

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You might try cleaning the laptop keyboard yourself, it isn't hard, just tedious.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3029098&page=1

Nite LaLa's....

Nite Elaine...

See you all tomorrow!

Pleasant Dreams....

Opps, wrong URL.

http://mij.oltrelinux.com/ibook/cleaning_keyboard/

Why bother.....

 :?

Ohhhhhh, my gosh...

 :shock:  :shock:
Uh-hum. It would be such a shame to cover this guy up! Me. I need clothes. For the sake of lasik recipients everywhere, I need clothes.

Now, stop that!  :lol: I need to concentrate!  :wink:

wrong link for sure carnut  :lol: I looked at that first one and thought why is carnut comparing us to chubby apes?

 :lol:  :lol:

:shock:   WHOA  BB.. nice find..

  :shock:  :shock:
I'm working on it, I'm working on it!

  ROFLMAO!

I was wondering what happened to you.... I had visions of you passed out
on the floor of your office.

Would ya look at the size of his..... muscle!

CBB has been so gracious to us with her AVIS..

 I made her a BDAY thread in the lounge   :lol:

Thats what I mean about a hot sexy sweaty worker.. throw a hard hat on him., and you know what im talkin bout   :wink:

 <I had to be very careful not to typo on this post ..lol>

CBB

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Enjoy your day.

With the slightest of downward tugs on those pants, we all could!

 :wink: Is it hot in here???

 I couldn't tell yah... I already have a fever.. LOL

I thought of you too Angie when I picked him up....I mean out. :oops:

  LMAO BB..  :wink:
 TY    :)

Thanks, San! Thanks, everybody!

Ladies, I'd bet we've managed to run every male monkey off the board tonight! I'm also betting that photo gets "quoted" more than any other post in a month!  :lol:

Dunno, I kinda like the Betty Boop workin out.

Just wanted to stick my head in before I go nighty night and wish CBB a happy birthday!! I hope all is well with you guys and that you sleep well...Angie, you're not in bed yet!?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CBB!! Thanks for all you do for us. Have a great day!!

Angie those are the biggest boots !  :lol:

time for me to get some rest (http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/word/snoozeboat.gif)

Hiya, Carnut! Glad I could offer some contribution to the integrity of all monkeydom with blind fairness to gender.

HUBBA HUBBA BIG BOY!

Just posting this & heading back to bed...

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The (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/devil.gif) is coming out in a few here tonight  :wink:


Happy Brithday CBB


SeeYabyeee   all

 Rofl Sistah  nice boots huh?
Good night and I hope you feel better.  !

LOL LOL

I thought you said boobs!!!!

I think maybe I need to go to bed.... in a little bit.

Night, Nonesche!

Does anyone object to OF's avatar being on the same page with that photo? You could get whiplash............

( I wuv you, OF)

  Mishy I tryed.. and cant sleep.  Too friggin miserable. tylenol PMS arnt knockin me out either.  :(

  Hi OF   :)

I know it looks bad... but the way I figure, with all the wolf wistles we have had to put up with over the years....

it's okay... at least for one night.

Good to see you, OF.

Angie? I'm so sorry you're sick. I missed what's wrong! What hurts?

I sowwy....smoochies to you sweetie!!

  Head to toe.. that covers it all.. lol
 Getting the damn flu.. I hardly ever get sick.  This really sucks too.
 :evil:

Mishy, OF, and everybody.........THX for the B'day wishes!

Night Monkeys, see you all tomorrow.

Have a great one CBB...you deserve it, luv!

Sleep well, all...I'm calling it a night!!

I hope you don't have what I had.... body aches for over a week.  I
couldn't sleep, either.  I'd lie in one position until every bone in my
body ached and then try the other side.  My shoulders hurt like he__
but the headache was the worst.

I don't think there's anything you can do for it... just wait for it to subside.
Bummmmmmer.
 :(

  Night BB and Mishy..
Mish.. hope la pooh feels better too.  Poor kid.  :(

Angie, if you can get some tamiflu, really quick, it can help tremendously with the symptoms and actually make it far less severe than it would be otherwise. It's not so effective if you wait until it's full blown.

Nite BB

Night, Sweetie!

Patti sorry you were icky and CBB I have meds here.. but not working yet.
 Cant get comfortable to sleep....  :(
 Got the bed to myself too  :)   Hubby sleeping in a spare room  :D
  Dont bother me in the least..lol

Howdy Klaas..  need any rain there in CA?  Its awful here.. :(

Patti,
 I am not good at giving directions. It took me over a year to learn photobucket..LOL
 Then had to re learn again when I got my new pc.. cause I coulod not find my images I saved.  Now if I can learn how to use my scanner I wil be in good shaot. IIRC in the lounge.. Klass may have posted how to paste photos here in detail?

I really have to get to some things, but, Angie? If you have a doctor, a call to the office will often suffice for them to call in a perscription of tamiflu. Be sure and tell them you've just started experiencing symptoms. If you don't have a regular doctor, a walk in clinic is a choice to consider. Getting some SOON is really important.

  Good shape..  :roll:  :roll:

  Yep I have a regular Dr.
Is that like that other flu stuff?  Thera~Flu? I know you can get that over the counter.  I took dayquil all day and at work too.  I have nyquil here but in pill form.   Not that stuff you drink.  Guess maybe it al needs to get into my system. Sleep aides have neevr done anything for me,. even when I had my back surgery, I swear it has the opposite affect.  :?

Hello monkeys...Just jumping in head first as I have not read back yet, but saw Angie online...

Angie - wait just a sec and I'll grab that basin bag screen capture that you requested a couple of days ago..

  HI Sleuth!  and TY..  I didnt know if others may have missed those.

Thank you... and I can, certainly, sympathize.  There are alot of things that I don't know how to do on my computer.  I just checked... I have
Picture Finder.  I'll ask my daughter about it tomorrow... I can probably
install photobucket.. and be up and running in no time, with her help.

I'm concerned about you, though... Tylenol didn't help with my body aches either.  I hope you start feeling better soon.

No, no, Angie. Tamiflu is a perscription and actually lessons the severity of flu if caught early. Some doctors will give a patient an annual perscription to keep onhand in case of the flu, so they can take it as soon as they realize they're getting flu. That's mostly with patients who are comprimised already, but it's worth an effort to get some.

  Photobucket is free  just go to photobucket.com   and create an acct.
 I made it alot harder then what it was, its not hard at all. Patti Sleuth is going to post photos from a while bag of the bag in the basin.  Interesting to see what she had done to them back then.

I'm STARVING!  I think I'll get something to eat... a little midnight snack.

BBL

 :wink:

If I don't see you later.... good night!

 Ty CBB.. I highly doubt I will go to work tomorrow.. they already know I may not. So I just might call the dr then.  Hope he can call it in and not make me go out there.. Pfft.

CBB    TY  .. it was like a little infomerical.. lol

:smt044

Are you always this funny... or is it the medication????

I just popped somthing in the oven...

I'm still with ya...

Here you go.

I did a screen capture from the AruBay video, rotated the photo so the 'head' portion was towards the top, and then took that and applied several filters in order to see if the contents of the bag could be distinguished.  

The one that Angie and Widget are most interested in is the midlle of the three, which has a 'negative' filter applied.  The one on the right has a 'sephia' filter applied.

Other than rotating the image and applying the filter, these are unretouched.  I tried all kinds of filters that night at the request of a group of monkeys online that night.  
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/my_photos_/LineUpBags.jpg)

Here is a larger image of the one with the 'negative' filter.  Other posters, both on SM and other sites, subsequently grabbed this image and utilized in their postings...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/my_photos_/pondbagnegative.jpg)

 ME?  I am a simpleton Patti  lol   Sick or not.. lol  :)
 Stick around to see Sleuths photos shes going to post. I dont know if you ever saw them before.

I'm so sorry about blowing the margins on that..... :oops:

Judging by the other stuff around this, this discussion fall of 2005.  I have some boat show photos at the same time and that was October of 2005.  I beleive we started to see this stuff crop up on other sites sometime in 2006.

Sleuth,
  THANK YOU for re posting those.  I saved them this time. I didn't know how back then.  I hope Widget sees them again as well.
   Pretty creepy.   :shock:

There is that injury again.... the one that is present on the body that I saw
at the rocks...  

If you look at the body, at the rocks... it looks like there is a hole in her back on the left side.  Here it looks like this is a frontal shot of the same injury and again that hole only to the front of the body... and I assume that is blood, as well.

I hate this....

  WOW.. cant get over its been that long already  :(
My margins didn't blow.  Ty again for posting those .  
  I can see a face.. saw it then and still do  :(

Looks like Sleuth has already posted her pics for you, Angie.

Just wanted you to know that I always had the reverse reaction to meds that made others drowsy.  It's some sort of syndrom.  I can't take anything with codeine because it gives me palpitations.  Be careful with the things you take over the counter.  

I hope you feel better soon, but the flu I had in January and again just before my Dad passed is still with me.   I did see my doctor but waited too long, I think.  Take care of yourself.

  TY Sweety  
 I take after my mother.. she is the same way. :(  Take a pill to make you sleep and it makes yah hyper instead. Grrrrrrrrrrrr  :evil:  
 And I am so sorry again about your daddy.  :(

I know.  I had applied something like 10-12 different trial filters that night and posted a few different ones that seemed to show something of the contents (or outline of the contents), and then out of the blue the negative filter came up with that....up until the time that I applied that filter I saw absolutely nothing in the bag but kept on because there were monkeys that could 'see' something with other filters.  I was basically the only one around that could get get a decent still frame from the video at that time.

SLEUTH:

Could you do the same thing to the picture of the body that I found in the
California Lighthouse video collection?

 Yep I remember that.. and yes then you were the only one that got that still way back when. I was curious after seeing what Carpe had posted.. and wanted again to see what you had too.  TY!

Sleuth! Thank you so much. I see it now. That has helped me so much. Thank you!

This is the torso of a man, right?

That photo of Sleuths and the one (which is identical to Sleuths) that was in the National Enquirer is the only picture that I really believe I see Natalee.  

Sorry I've been so quiet tonight.  Working on "work"  :wink:

I didn't see anything in the video, nor with any of the screen captures or the dozen or so filters that I applied - only with that one filter.  It is very creepy, but I do see a face in that 'negative' filter capture.  

Frankly, I am never a believer in images and never see anything like the faces/sharks in the rocks, etc.    But this is the one exception, and if I had not captured it from the video myself I would have thought it was altered.  So if anyone doesn't believe that capture, just try it for yourself.  You do need to have some decent video capture software that can get a good grade photo but other than that just choose the negative filter and rotate the image (or don't rotate and just stand on your head to look at it  :wink: )

Hey, Klaas.... I've been trying to leave you to your work, but since you
stopped in I want to say hello.

Klaas..I ususally keep quiet when these pics are posted, because I often don't follow it and know from experience that if I just wait and read, it will become clear. I'm lost on this one. Do you think Sleuth's picture is Natalee?

The same image showed up at BFN, but the posted later let me know they had grabbed it from SM.  I think it spread elsewhere from there.

 I was gonna ask if it was Sleuth photo that was in the NE. They do look identical.  Id like to see Carpe post his one pic.. next to Sleuths to see how they compare?  CARPE can yah do that?  :)

 Klaas.. we are behaving..  honest..lol

By the way - I did not send it to the National Enquirer.  The only place I sent it was to the family, and posted it only at SM.

I'm sorry to be a pest, but someone please help me put this in context?
This bag was in the Chicago videos, right? The one seen in that concrete container thing, right?
Do you all think it's Natalee? It's definately a torso.

  TY sweety.. so I know I am not crazy, cause I see the same as well. And did the day you posted it. I know others had changed their minds after sometime about it too. I dont know how to capture images.. hell I stil /cant quote correctly after al this time..
 I really do appreciate you posting these again!!  Hugs!

Yep, I'm sure it did Sleuth.

I see alot of things in that picture.  I definately see a face, and I see breasts.  There is no way that this is a man.  But I also see what looks
like a gunshot wound to the left chest area.  I think I can even see the
bullet hole.

I get confused, because it seems like I see things that others don't.

What do you see, Klaas?

I think the majority of us knows who sent it to the NE..  I don't think thats a secret anymore.
  I am glad YOU sent them to the family then.   I hope Widget sees these.
I may have to send him an email and the thread to look.

Hi Patti,

Sorry, I can't right now as I do not have my laptop that has all the video capture software...but if I ever get it up and going I will do so...

About the gunshot, I do not see a gunshot would to the head area, but below that...

  CBB yes it was in the basin, from the videos.  :(
 There is DEF a person in that bag.  :(

About the gunshot, I do not see a gunshot wound to the head area, but below that...

Sorry - doing too many things at once here and did not finish my sentence.  I do not see a gunshot wound to the head, but there appears to be a hole (or else just something blocking the image) below that in the upper chest area.

Thank GOD you see the same thing I do.

I am telling you the truth, I have no reason to lie.  The body at the
rocks has the same wound.

Thank you... so much.

I see that.. but see in some of Carpes photos he had. what looked like a gunshot as well in the skull cap?    Maybe he will post some comparisons  of what he has and what you have Sleuth. Be quite intesting to see after all of this time  :(   I am not talking about the photo he has at the rock area,  I think if he reads this thread. he will know which one I mean.

Sleuth? Anybody? Would hair be visable in the photo, if it were there? Maybe it doesn't show, but this person seems to have a man's short hair, to me, and good sized biceps. I suppose it could be the effect of the filter, but it's almost like you can see a "5 oclock shadow" beard around the mouth area.

CBB - I really don't see much of anything below that hole in what would be the upper chest area.  It is the face portion that stands out to me.

CBB
 IMO there is more then ONE bag there.. look again..
 to the left of the bigger bag.. it looks liek a smaller bag .. look at the top of it.. looks like its tied up.. thus making the one on the right look like a big one?  Hope that made some sense.  but its just IMO.

It did me too long ago. Eyes. nose.. etc,

I see long, very, very long blond hair.  Curly... I wonder if Natalee has naturally curly hair?

Also, does someone remember hearing about a birthmark, or a mole that she has on her shoulder, or arm?  I wish that there were some identifying mark that we could find that could be used to make a possitive identification.

She's so beautiful, even in these pictures.

 :cry:

Here is a capture of just the facial portion, extending down to the hole/wound area..

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/my_photos_/Negativefiltercloseup.jpg)

  Night Klaas.. Sweet dreams.
catch some zzzz's for me..

Goodnight Klaasend.  Have a good day tomorrow.

It looks like I'm going to have to get out of this Easter grass soon   :lol:

Patti, I do remember something about a birthmark or mole, but I don't remember where.  And there has been so much misinformation fed to us that I would need to see where that originated....

Nite Klaas!

Good luck tomorrow.... WE MISS YOU!

LOL Sleuth

 Gimme a sec. I am gonna try something I may blow margins to hell and back.  Wanna see if I can post yours and Carpes one photo side by side.. gotta up load them.. brb..

Angie - that is a good way to describe it.  The area on the left appears to be a smaller bag that is tied.

Richard has been in touch with the family and Steve Holloway has been
e-mailing me.  I'll see if we can find out for sure.... okay?

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/ghtytryddd.png) (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/Negativefiltercloseup.jpg)

 If MARGINS BLOW .. I am SORRY in ADVANCE

You all were answering my questions as I was getting this to ask you if I had it right! Thanks guys! Is this labeled right?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/torsolbl.gif)

Forgot to paste.  :oops:

  Glad you understood..lol  Does appear to be more then one bag there IMO.

I agree. More than one bag, on the left.

That's exactly what the Enquirer printed in their newspaper.

It's amazing that so much detail came through with that filtering.

Good Job, Sleuth!

CBB - yes, this was in the AruBay video that Chicago_510 had the foresight to save (thank you Chicago_510).

The huge pond has this concrete area as an inflow/outflow area.  I know there is a technical name for it.  

What is amazing to me is that it is right along side of the road so would be a very unlikely spot to intentionally dump a body unless they were in a very big hurry and just chose the closest location.  This is just up the road a bit from the Marriott, accross from the Fishermen's Huts.

Angie - I see nothing in Carpe's image except red blotches... :cry:

CBB - the facial shape that I see in the image I posted is entirely different than what you just posted.  Wait a sec and I'll draw some arrows..

Ohhhhhhh, Sleuth. I just saw it. When I found the eyes, it fell into place. Or at least the face did.  :cry:

I'm so glad you said that, because I've only seen red splotches in Carpe's pictures, too! I want to see what's there but I'm terrible at this!  :cry:

  I can see eyes.. I cant find the others.. more details he points out on them.  Perhaps he will see what we have been posting.. and compare?
 I dis send Widget an email ..and the thread where you posted your photos.  again TY !!
   I can see some of Carpes photos better .. smaller. I dont know if it depends on the resolution of the screen or not?

In this image, it looks like it is a side shot facing to the right, with the face tilted downward.....

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/my_photos_/Negativefiltercloseupwitharrows.jpg)

Resolution definitely impacts.  On the last shot posted with the words I enlarged to get the words in - I know that it will look fuzzy to most..

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/torso2.gif)

Well, while you're doing that, I'll complete my sloppy labeling. I see the head turned to the left.

Yeah, I was going to say that... this picture does look fuzzier than the other.

Have you seen the body at the rocks before?

Or has anyone seen it before?

I was on line one time when Carpe was showing us his pictures of the rocks area and I started describing what I was seeing (the body) and even described her as looking to the right and downward.  I think he thought I was crazy.

Thing is:  Do you think that this picture, along with the picture of the body at the rocks, assuming ofcourse that through the use of some filtering, we come up with a good photo, we could get the investigation, or something going in a possitive direction for Natalee's family?

  Not fuzzy for me .

I'm bringing this forward so that we can make out the photo after looking at the labels.  :wink:

I was trying to look through Carpes photobucket.. there are so many photos its unreal
 I sent an email with the link to this thread.. starting with the page that Sleuth posted her photos on.
 So Widget and Carpe both have mail...

I don't see what you see with the body at the rocks.  It looks like bushes to me..  I wish there would be a way to jump-start the investigation again, but I am assuming that Natalee's family has already had the videos scrutinized over and over.

Oh sleuth........I don't know.

I'm horrified to see so clearly that if you follow what I see as the position of the face, that the dark areas conform to lividity (livitity?)

That 5:00 shadow that I thought I saw, would be a logical occurance of the darkening of the skin at the lowest point. It's where blood drains.

And I'm afraid I really do see hair coming over the left shoulder.

Sleuth, I'm going to take another look at your labels (thank you so much for doing that). Can you see the position that I do?

I'm taking my larger, clearer shot and adding labels...BRB.

Image facing to the right, head tilted downward...

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/my_photos_/Negativefilterwitharrows.jpg)

Sleuth? Everyone? Please take a look at what I labeled and then the unlabled photo with the same perspective in mind.. Find the eyes as a reference.  Am I just nuts?

Sorry, perhaps I'm so focused on the face toward the right that I am not seeing what you are seeing.  Don't worry though, as I never see anything.....

I see it, Sleuth. I'm not discounting it! Thank you for all the trouble, hon!

CBB - other than this face pointing to the right, I have never seen anything, except what I believed to be Natalee's top in the shots you captured long ago.

I know alot of people don't see the body.... but some did yesterday.

And, like I said earlier... it has the same wounds on it, but on the back
side.  A hole to the left side of her body, in what would be the chest area.

I also see blood on her ankle, especially the left ankle where there is a ring that I think may have been caused by a rope.  I think she was bound and wouldn't be surprised to find that she has the same sort of wounds to her wrists.

As far as the amputation of the arm.... I am not totally sure of that.  It may be that the arm is just not visible beyond about eight inches from the shoulder.  The right leg is not that visible either.  

I really would appreciate you taking a look at it and running it through a filtering process because I would swear on a stack of bibles, I see it.

Yesterday, someone asked why the painter would paint the rocks with a
body being right there in the open.  THe only thing that I can figure is that there was blood on the rocks and they were afraid that a plane passing overhead would spot it.

Still here and looking ..

No, no, hon! I have difficulty with most all things others see. I'm just shaken right now, because I really do see a recognizable Natalee with her face turned toward the right. I really do. Sleuth you've done a magnificent job with this photo!

  Patti,
  I saw what you are talking about.   I get behind at times due to work and we dont have internet there. just the big boss in his office.
  I didn;t know what to make of those pics.. it did look like a decayed body with a tounge sticking out.    I couldnt see the bush thing..  :(
  We all see differently..  thats a given.. we always have!!!  lol
back when Sleuth posted her photos. someone said they saw a big fish in that bag.. and how long after changed their mind?  
 I do beleive there was something at that rock area for sure that was being covered up.  ESO when REN~HO posted here then. and said she was gonna go take pics.. and comes back to say she forgot batteries or a camera card? There was some lams ass excuse then.  She knows exactly where those rocks were back then ,  The FLUFFA HO!

Patti - I won't have time to work with filters for the next couple of days, but should have some time this weekend.  I will take that area of the rocks stuff and apply filters and see what I come up with.  Heck, that is exactly how this right facing image started out - I didn't see anything but kept trying at the request of others and finally came up with a filter that showed that right-facing shot.

It is very late so I must say good night for now.

Tib, I hope there is not too much sweeping to do.  I'll help with the windows over the weekend.

And who hugged Nemo - we don't want to get in trouble, so here is a ((HUG)) for Nemo..

I'm going to go retrieve it and have you look again, okay?

Maybe you'll see it this time.

One more thing.  I do have to admit that I saw Julia's image in that sandwich that Klaasend once posted    :wink:

Okay... if you need to contact me, ask Klaas and she'll give you my e-mail.  I'll try to help you in anyway I can.

Thank you sooooo much.  

Good Night...

  Sleuth  Ty again so much.. :)
And You wont be written up in lalas bok now.. LOL  Hugs to CP too.. Nemos mommy!!  :)

Angie:

You still here?

I;m gonna go get it and I'll be right back...

 I got booted ?  :(

  ROFLMAO  !  Who didnt.. ha ha

brb Patti.. puter is doing a spyware sweep and its slow as heck..
 takes a few minutes..

I just thought of something:

That thread is locked and I don't know enough about the system to be able to move it.

 Patti,
 I am sure the pic will get posted again,... Carpe seems to be here early in the AM from what I have seen.

But, I want to thank you for keeping me here to meet Sleuth and look at his photographs.  I can't tell you how happy I am right now.  I am as sure about there being a body in that photograph as I am that I am sitting here, right now.  I had never seen the photos that he showed us tonight.  I saw the one that was in the National Enquirer, but never had seen the one that showed that injury.  I almost came out of my seat!

If this turns out to be what I think it is... we have proof that the officials were lying about what they found at the rocks.  There was no boys body there that had been buried a year ago... only Natalee.  And, if it can be of any help to the family, we know how she was murdered.  She was shot.

Thank you.... Angie.  I can't tell you how much it means to me that, in spite of not being able to see the body with your own two eyes, that you were loving enough to ask me to stay and meet Sleuth.

You are sooo kind...

Thank you.

So... are you tired yet?

  Pattu Sleuth is an awesome poster. And  Sleuth is a she..lol  :)
 I am glad you were able to veiw her photos. Seems like forever ago when she had first posted them on the site here.  :(
      I am gonna try and go to bed again.. I hate being sick and hate that I can take a speelping pill and it keeps me awake.   :evil:
  Sweet dreams to you Patti.. and ttyl sweety.  Night!

CBB  what the hell are you doing back up  ?  LOL

My arse was gonna go to bed..  I have to try at least..

Good Night...  I hope you sleep well and have pleasant dreams.

I feel justice in the air!

Night...

  Night Patti

 And I hope you are right.. Justice for Natalee !

If I didn't see this so clearly, I wouldn't be so insistent, but I've tried to keep the labels small. Look just to the right of where the numbers are. Start at the forehead (6), and keep in mind the head is as if "looking" to the right/front. Both eyes are visable........you can even make out the eyebrows above them.

1. eye ( Look to the right of the number and continue looking to the downward left, across the bridge of the nose in perfect lineup for the other eye)

2. nostril (rt of the number, once you pin that down, the nose will be visable)

3. ear ( rt of the number)

4. mouth ( rt of number and look slightly up and to the right for a darker line )

5. chin ( rt of number )

6. forehead

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/torso5copy.gif)

Now that you have the perspective, look without labels:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/torso.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/ertete-1-4.png)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/hrttytytghg.png)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/dfdff.png)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/eeeeeterrere-1.png)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/fgfgfgfgfgfffffffff-2-2-1-1.png)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/898uied-1.png)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/ggfggfgf-1.png)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/fddddddddd.png)




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http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/

I sadly suspect JORAN OR PAULUS shot her in the head
for one of two reasons.

RAGE


or


To put her out of her misery, maybe to put them out of their misery
wondering if she was totally dead or not.

WHICH AS WE KNOW, NOTHING WILL PUT JORAN AND PAULUS
OUT OF THEIR MISERY.

They are miserable awful people.





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Carpe, I have developed a tremendous respect for your hard fought efforts to help others see what you do!

I see something, and it's perfectly ok with me if I'm wrong: but I desperately want others to see it!!

Hats off to you, Carpe!

Not exactly the right angle, but maybe this will help?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/torsocopy.gif)

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

Oh, I have always seen what you, Blonde, & Faith, see  in that shot.

In fact I played with it and tweaked it and have several dozen
versions of it tucked away in my book.

It certainly resembles Natalee. It is definitely human.


Let's get one thing straight today:

There are human body parts in the MARRIOTT BASIN BAG.

We may never be able to prove beyond a shadow of doubt Natalee.


BUT ARUBA WAS PLAYING HIDE AND GO SEEK WITH A

BAG FULL OF BODY PARTS ON OR ABOUT JUNE 10, 2005.

Why?

Now there's a big question. What are the odds they would
have been doing this... as Natalee is missing only for a week or two?

The body is not that of a 7 year old boy as claimed by the ALE.

They are liars, and our own eyes and brains tell us this. When we
ask answers of the ALE ... they have no logical answers.

They are Aruba Fraudulent Hacks, and connot be trusted. They
have lied to us 1,000 times . You can't take ANYTHING they say
with other than a big ass GRAIN OF SALT.



THE ODDS DON'T LOOK GOOD, that they are jugling a bag
full of body parts when Natalee is missing. Especially, when
many of the parts look like they may be
 from a blonde caucasian female.




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Keep rockin, CBB

We all supply a sliver of the overall pie of what happened to Natalee.

I respect your work too, you put a bunch into it & it is apparent! :wink:

HERE ARE SOME SUPER-DUPER ZOOMS

I HAVE COLLECTED USING THE PHOTO

THAT CBB DIAGRAMS ABOVE

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Z1
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l266/californialighthousepics1/sskskjXTREMEBUP.png


Z2
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l266/californialighthousepics1/sskskjXTREMEBUP1.png

Oh Carpe!!!!!

If no one's told you yet today that they love you................I'd be honored to be the first!!!!!!!

OK, I'm going to go take a look at your wonderful photos!

It was the eyes, Carpe. Even the eyebrows are there. Once I saw the eyes the whole face was just there, and it broke my heart. I think the hair is tucked just like in the photo. I'm so, so, glad you see it.

CBB!

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/th1130423226iLoveYou.gif)

 :wink:

Good morning friends.... :D

Bumping this page along....and wishing CBB a very happy birthday....!

May I ask what the round disc is in the area labeled as forehead.... :?

She had wavy hair

Hi Tiger.....you look a lot like an LSU Tiger..... :)

Welcome to the forum....!

So you think the round disc is hair...?

but natalee doesn't have wavy hair.    :?

I am afraid to bring the picture to this page and blow the margins....
the one that I am looking at is the one CBB has with Natalee next to
the negative picture.....it is on the previous page at 9:49 am

that would be 8:49 a.m.

http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/

"Connecting the Dots"

Good Morning Monkey Friends!  Good to see you all.

Hi Tiger - Nice to see you too.  What a beautiful avatar - really cool.

I also wanted to wish CBB:


HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hugs to you girl - have a great day!

I just don't know what to think about this picture again.  We've been over it many times.
I used to post with Faith and Blonde,  and some IDIOT at T4N
convinced them that I was somebody I am not,  Anyways, I'm not one who enjoys the political bs at a site where you aren't free to voice your feelings if they are different then the moderators.

Back to the picture....The face is too perfect, for someone who is decomposing and had been beaten.  The proportion isn't right given that the distance in that drain box area is approx 2 feet. IIRC  I believe our very own Bleached Black had measured it as well as another poster at another natalee forum.

The confusing part for me is I did exactly what Blonde did to get the picture seen.  And I don't deny seeing it.   But after watching ;that movie dozens of times,  I see a fish moving in the bag where her head is pictured,  And I could never capture the exact screenshot to get this picture.  I'm an amateur at that stuff.

As hard as I have tried,  I cannot convice myself that it is Natalee in that bag.  I'm sorry guys, I just can't :cry:

Oh yeah,

Good Morning Monkeys.

I'm working from home today,  we have another stupid snowstorm heading our way,  It makes me totally disgusted because its Mid April and we still have snow and the buds are coming out on my trees :shock:

Morning Monkeys!!!

Mrs. DarthVada
Wonder how bad this storm will be? The weather people are all over the "map" on this one. Guess they really don't know any more than we do!!! I've heard everything from 5 inches to a foot here in my neck of the woods. Jeesh. April.

Regarding that bag..I've not posted regarding that because I recall when we went through this the last time and I have to agree...I see NO body parts.
I've tried and tried and just don't see it.
Oh well, who knows. I doubt we will ever know anyway.
Discouraging to say the least. :cry:

mmmmmmm........I have had less than  2" on cape cod all winter.....
and
YES I AM TALKING ABOUT SNOW!!!!!!!  
:lol:

morning monkeys

J4N....Hi....I first read this article at Easy's Blog....with the article entitled Jossy Mansur Responds.....Good background article....!

Today seems like a good day to just nap......like a kitten
i love your kitty MDVADA

Hi guys! Didn't mean to ignore you ( I'm at work but getting ready to gead outta here).

I don't know what the disc is, but I can make out a smaller trash bag in that picture, so I'm assuming that there are foreign objects in the bag. I wondered about one of those cup lids that goes on fast food cokes.

I had no idea others had seen what I was seeing, but it was important to me that others saw it. I'm not making any claims, but it is really eerie to me.

hiya  CBB...Mere...et all...
i just smoked a nannnnna ....where is this pic.....???  TY :lol:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/torso6.jpg)

I'm hoping this won't blow the margins!

oopps...and hi Kimmy Art and Tiger :lol:

 :arrow: and all the other lurkers stalkers hackers posers perps and pervs

thanks CBB...my first thought is you all have been looking at shit in a bag too long...lol

but thats just me :roll:

Aw........Come on FOM!  :lol: Have another naaner and take a second look.

sorry---i just don't see it......anything

gotta go fold laundry...bbl monkeys

Hi Art
I know what you mean, those forecasters don't know for sure.  If you get wcsh6 and watch kevin mannix,  my hubby calls him kevin pannix because he really blows things out of proportion,  (lol)

I understand how you feel on the bag issue.  Its a tough one for me.  I really really tried to get it, and just can't.

Well, hope you don't lose power this time,  Last week's storm, I lost power thursday morning and didn't get it back till Saturday, I'm ready now, so I'm sure we'll get just rain!

I gotta run too, but will bbl. BYE!

Catch you later  FOM



Bye CBB & Happy B-Day

k......if u insist...lol...it is my day off...happy B-day....we are both aries...

I wish I could see the bag thing too.  I try looking at different angles, all different ways, and I think I "might" see something, but gosh, I can't be sure.  

Maybe if FOM would pass me one of those nanners, I might see it! :lol:

I am sorry for those of you in that snow mess.  And to think, I was griping because it has only been in the 50's the last few days.  I feel bad now.

Morning.  I see shenanigans were happening in the cage after I left.  I think those wicked ladies planned it that way.  They didn't want me screaming for my muffs.  


Now, about the bag in the basin.  I can't see anything much in that photo.  I have tried and I want to see something.  Isn't this the pic that was analyzed by experts ( or whatever they are called) and found nothing?  Just wondering if I heard Klaas correctly the other day.

From EASY's blog - this is true, 10 Dutch experts arrive in Aruba today.

Ten Dutch experts will arrive in Aruba today (April 12,2007) to put the finishing touches on the Natalee Holloway case, before the Ministry of Justice of Aruba considers the case closed, or cold!

It is assumed that this will be the last effort to try to find out what happened to Natalee Holloway before declaring the case cold.

“In Aruba, when a case is considered "cold", it doesn't mean that it is permanently closed, but that it can be reopened if and when new evidence appears or is found. The Dutch team of 10 experts that is arriving today has conditioned their work so that they will only work with the police team in charge of combating drugs on the island, because they consider them the more reserved section of the police force.

The Ministry of Justice definitely wants to put an end to the investigation of the case. I think it's wrong, because there are so many declarations by the three main suspects that have to be investigated further, that you cannot close the case until that is properly ant thoroughly done. I fear that this is the last attempt by the Dutch and Aruban authorities to show that they are interested in the case to the degree they will make one last effort, and then close it.

Will keep you posted on their presence and work in Aruba.”

Thanks Klaas.  Very interesting indeed.

This is about what I expected to happen.

Hiya Monkeys

from Easy's blog:
<snip>

The Dutch team of 10 experts that is arriving today has conditioned their work so that they will only work with the police team in charge of combating drugs on the island

I guess that mean Dennis Jacobs. Wasn't his history with ALE in drug enforcement???

I watch wcsh6 since they seem to be MOST accurate for me...and that is NOT saying a lot, lol!
I am ready for this one too. Got the woodstove just a'cookin along and stocked up on food yesterday. I always have the lanterns and extra water ready, but living on a farm, one just tends to do this anyway, "just in case"!  Kind of a force of habit!

Hope you don't lose power this time either. ITs  miserable not having power in a storm. :cry:

I see a face in this pic, but not the same one CBB sees.  :oops:  :lol:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/torso5copy.gif)

Where CBB has most of her numbers looks like the back of the head to me. Just to the right of the number 3, I see a closed right eye, with the nose and mouth just below.

So do I BT and it's a striking similarity to NAH, IMHO...Jossy's assesments that a thorough final investigation cannot be done without further exploring and interviewing the 3 suspects... :roll:  :roll:

Well, THAT sucks. But, then, I think we all expected this.
They can say what they want, but in my opinion, the Arubans/Dutch closed this case the first week.
They simply do NOT want to deal with it at all. Period.

Therefore, perhaps interpol or our own FBI will pick up the case. Perhaps not. I suppose time will tell at this point.

Hi Mishy  :D  (I hope Pooh is better today)

In the photo of the bag, do you see something that looks like a wound or a bruise on the right shoulder?

Good Morning!

Nice that the Dutch team already knows the outcome of their efforts--to close the case!   :evil:

A photo very like Sleuth's was given to the FBI I believe by Art Wood and they found nothing of interest in the contents of the basin.

Since that is the most clear one for me, I assume the rest are of such poor resolution they couldn't be used for much anyway.  I am pretty sure if the one basin photo has been given to the FBI which we know has happened, then the rest of them likely have been as well.

I do understand seeing things in the formation but think t is the same as seeing them in the clouds.  Yes, they are there and you can see them but they are not Natalee nor likely any human remains.  I doubt they would have bothered with recovery to toss the bags away but would have put on ice or made for permanent disposal.  How likely to place in one of the busiest spots on the island?

I would also urge you to check out Ed Smith's YouTube videos to see why he takes them and that he is a promoter of music and bands.  Either he or someone he promotes is a guitarist of some renown.  He is not likely Ed Roos.  At least one of his videos is quite good, the one about the Lone Sailor, the windsurfer one I actually like.   :shock:

JMO but we have been over this fifty times now.  Sure, never hurts to do it again but that very clear photo did go to the FBI for analysis and the family would have been informed had it been anything relative to Natalee's disappearance.

This is only what I think but I just hate to see anyone get their hopes up so when the FBI already has the photo.  Read the article that accompanied it and listen to Art Woods on Ipod, etc.  

~IMHO~Anna

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OMG, yes. I believe that is his background.
arghghg

I'm not sure about that BT, but I do see what looks like her hands resting on top of a skull there toward the bottom right...Natalee looks like a beautiful, sweet sleeping angel in this pic  :cry:

I know the picture has been investigated, and I know we were told it was really nothing. However, sometimes when an investigation is taking place, it's a good idea for the investigators not to tell everything they know.

Ed Smith also posted on the same blog as these two photos appeared.  Doesn't seem like somebody who had knowledge of Natalee's remians.  Just posting about music, etc.  But these two photos were prominently displayed on the blog:

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Holloway/20050706-Foto2010.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Holloway/20050706-helena.jpg)


Enlarge if you can't read the writing.  He referenced the arubay vids and did NOT see them as anything sinister.

Just trying to add a bit more info, another piece of the puzzle.


Off to work but please do keep in mind the FBI has analyzed that photo just as Klaas has stated several times now.

Have a good day!  The weather is finally gorgeous here!  Maybe it is really spring this time!.

.

Was it ever determined how large the basin area was that these bags were in? It always seemed to me that this area was rather small as were the bags. Thats always been a problem for me.

By looking at him, I thought his background was donuts.

What a great idea!  Have the Dutch work with the narco squad!  Yeah, that's the ticket!  Heaven forbid they actually do some independent work and figure out what most already know:  this is a home-cooked deal.  Start to finish.

BT the face you are seeing is the one that I have always seen.  I think the other photo numbered is the back of the head.  Yes, I see the bruise, and perhaps shadows, but I see bruises around the neck too.  (asphyxiation?)  these pictures were reviewed by ???the FBI I think, and they saw nothing.  ???

I thought this was odd as well.  I mean, wouldn't they want to talk to crime scene cops, forensic people....??  detectives???
they want to talk to the ALE drug guys??? who are all probably on crack or selling crack thru "Bootie".....

 :roll:

Maybe the dutch investigators are going to aruba to pick up a large quanity of cocaine.   For a favor and   look the other way.

Nothing surprises me anymore.

I see what u r saying BT and it just remionds me of the virgin mary in the toast thing, ya know???  Maybe i need to re-up the meds....? :wink:

Hi Art,

I think someone said the basin area was 4' x 4', but I'm not swearing to that. As far as the bag being too small for a person, it wouldn't be too small for someone of Natalee's size if it were a standard-size trash bag. I know this because I curled up in the same position and had my hubby measure me and compare the measurements with a trash bag.  :oops:  :lol:

Or at least they said they saw nothing.  :wink:

Dayhiker------ditto

BT you have mail...

Well, I am sure he has more than his share in the Donut dept! :lol:

Sorry I hadn't seen Anna's comments when I posted this.

Your hubby is such a sport, BT...you are very fortunate  :wink:

Hi BT
Well, 4' by 4' would be large enough.
I just never could see anything there, though, and believe me, I looked and looked and looked.
BUT...perhaps my eyes are just not as sharp as some others either. Who knows?
As I said previously, I doublt we'll ever know.
There seemed to me to be a LOT Of evidence against these creeps and yet nothing ever came of any of it.
Plain and simple, the powers that be in Aruba do NOT want this case solved and have said as much through their words and actions.

They are truly a disgusting lot.

To add to that, I also think that even if they had a body with the creeps DNA all over the place,they would have said there was no crime.
None of this matters to them. They are now just not doing a thing out of sheer childish stubborness IMO.

They HAVE to be perfect, doncha know. They have NO CRIME, doncha know.

Again, a disgusting lot, all of them.

I have a question...big surprise.    

If these photos are taken by the other Ed Smith (band guy) why is he driving around following the ALE?

Why does he video the basin with a piece of plastic bundled in it?

For what purpose is he stationed at the lighthouse to capture all the action including the silver car?  Why does he close up on that particular car?

Watch the entire set of videos and tell me what is his purpose?

Hear, hear, ArtColley!

BTW, your wood burning stove sounds incredibly cozy!! How's Seamonkey doing?

Klaas, is Easy's info from Jossy?  

Cat:  for some reason, my 'puter didn't want to pull up your b-day thread.   :? So I'm saying it here:  Happy Birthday you fine feline!  

good point Lalas...what is up with that? Has someone gotten to him to cause him to recant?

HI Mishy
Seamonkey is doing great and also preparing for our upcoming storm!
She's been very busy lately with the kids, her art and also some medical tests.  
I'd be plumb wore out~!  :lol:

Amen to that!

I found that "interesting" that the Dutch investigators would chose the very people that stood in the way of a proper investigation the LAST time.
Yep. The fix is in.

I would say YES

It's too bad....I think they are just gonna close it.
And i bet they are having a few deals on this one.

Is there a difference between considering a case closed or cold.  What I am trying to say is that if they consider the case cold do the Holloway/Twitty family still get the files.

I have a feeling it will be considered cold just not to let them get these files.

Amen to that![/quote]


Morning Artcolley! Puzzling. Why would they send ten investigators to the island when all the files are in Holland and the case has been investigated there for months? Why would they need to send ten people if they were going to close the case? If this is a PR move, as Jossy fears, then it's just another of a long line of dumbass decisions in the history of the dreaded island. Nobody will ever believe they give a crap until they arrest their perps.

I don't think a case is every considered "closed" unless it's solved.  Well, this one is solved, but it's not going to trial apparently.  So it would stay a "cold case".  Unless their system is different.   :roll:

Morning Artcolley! Puzzling. Why would they send ten investigators to the island when all the files are in Holland and the case has been investigated there for months? Why would they need to send ten people if they were going to close the case? If this is a PR move, as Jossy fears, then it's just another of a long line of dumbass decisions in the history of the dreaded island. Nobody will ever believe they give a crap until they arrest their perps.[/quote]

Morning, Dayhiker!
I think Jossy is right. HE knows these people and I trust his instincts on this one. However, I think that deep down we all agree with him as well.

Good question about the files being in Holland. Good Lord.

I also wouldn't be a bit surprised, that even if the DID do another investigation, they take all the info back to Holland and perhaps...just perhaps...decide on it all in two years.
These people just make me sick and have further cemented my feeling that no decent person should ever visit that rock they call Aruba.
There is no judical system there at all. No wonder we "never understood it", lol!  It doesn't exist!!!! :twisted:

Wasn't it said that once a case goes "cold" that at that point interpol can step in?
I recall reading that somewhere waaaay back.
Wonder if its true?  I hope so.

There is no mystery here folks!  This had been planned for some time.  The Dutch are afraid to let the truth come out.  I am not talking about what happened to Natalee.  I am talking about the corruption.  We all know it's true.  We have Jossy validating our suspicions.  If this were about 3 jerks that invited a young girl into their car for the purposes of sex or even rape, this would all be over.  One or all of them would be in jail and we would be on to something else.  

The family will get NOTHING!  Mark that down, if they don't have it already they will never see anything related to this case.  We are dealing with another type of society here.  They do not have to do anything for the Americans.  They are Dutch and have felt superior for centuries compared to us unenlightened Americans.  

The FBI could tell everyone what they do know, but that won't happen either. Carpe pointed out the reason two days ago.  It's a strategic location and were it not for that things would be different.  The U.S. will not risk their international interests to solve this case.  I suspect they have known for some time what really happened and the REAL secret behind everything that has happened.  

The only thing that will provide the break in this case is exactly what Robots has advocated for some time.   Put the perps in a room with the right person and let's see how long it takes for them all to become "singing cards".  JMO

Morning, Dayhiker!
I think Jossy is right. HE knows these people and I trust his instincts on this one. However, I think that deep down we all agree with him as well.

Good question about the files being in Holland. Good Lord.

I also wouldn't be a bit surprised, that even if the DID do another investigation, they take all the info back to Holland and perhaps...just perhaps...decide on it all in two years.
These people just make me sick and have further cemented my feeling that no decent person should ever visit that rock they call Aruba.
There is no judical system there at all. No wonder we "never understood it", lol!  It doesn't exist!!!! :twisted:[/quote]


I doubt seriously they want the family to get those files. Would expect them to try to weasel out of this some way. But then, being weasels is what they do best.

I can't believe ya'll are going to have a big storm!! YUCK! Prayers that her medical tests come out OK!! I hope all is well with you too...do you still have headaches? Are you sleeping better at night?

Dang, Lala's! You preach as well as you write and this monkey's in your choir! Ditto, and well said!!!

You didn't know I could preach too?   :lol:

Heck, what do you think the hall monitor does anyway?  BTW I see Angie was trying to get you into trouble again last night.  I just don't know what I will do with you wicked women.  :roll:

more snow coming  :x

goodness gracious, holy moses smell the roses  :shock:  8)

this global warming is out of control
 :twisted:


GLOBAL WARMING....................bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

main stream media is out of their minds


Natalee case will be solved.......

shhhhhhh whispering...be very quiet

there will be someone that will SPILL  the stuff we have not seen

there are people making copies of it everywhere

BET THE FARM ON IT

Duke case....JUSTICE came !!!!  it took a long time but it came out


hang tough......... people get ready the TRAIN is coming



Hang in there Beth and Dave.......i have not been wrong yet

 :twisted:  8)

I agree 100% Lala's.

"Of course, they know what happened. It doesn't take a Dutch investigator to know what happened to Natalee; a third grader could figure that out..."

Agree.

All this pretense of Natalee's case being so hard to figure out is just ridiculous.

 
"My client JVDS played a major role in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway" (Antonio Carlo)

"No body/no case" (PVDS the day after Natalee went missing)

"They all panicked when the girl (Natalee) remained passed out."


ARUBA, YOUR COVERUP IS SHOWING

PUT THE GUILTY BEHIND BARS

you know who is gonna get the ARUBA KILLERS


another ARUBAN
one of their own

thats what is gonna make my day  8)

I agree.

Awww Robots

I know taking the plow off is a royal pain in the butt.  They are letting school out an hour early here.  I just wish it was rain.


I agree with your last statement too.  Its gonna be one of their own that get justice done

someone will PUKE up some new documents

that will show even more  (like more is actually even needed ) :roll:

how guilty a handful are in the MURDER and DISPOSAL of not only Natalee's Body but in the ACTUAL EVIDENCE of the crime


it will happen

yes, i can live with the rain. and actually if it snows that is ok also :D

about a zillion things worse in the world then getting more snow

a little aggravating but i have been told i can be aggravating also

i find that shocking but......thats what people say  :twisted:

Ed Smith said his purpose in making those videos was to insure that no black person was ever again framed for a crime they did not commit as the security guards were.  

I thought we had established through posters who were in contact with him that he did receive tips where to be while a big commotion was being made on the other side of the island.  Was this when Julia told Jug at that store to get to the courthouse at once, body recovery, etc.?

While the FBI can say things like no comment, results inconclusive, results pending, results sent for further evaluation, they cannot tell an outright lie about an investigation.

JMO as always.   :wink:

nice boots Anna  8)

You are likely correct, Robots.  The Dutch wanted out of Aruba long ago but through the UN we asked them to stay to lend stability to the region.  I doubt they are exactly thrilled to still be there and also doubt Aruba is much of an asset to them.

Aruba screams autonomy when convenient and they don't want to answer questions or do the right thing.  The only time they are still under the Dutch is when they want more money.  Then they refuse to even give an accounting of the money they get.

If the Dutch can't make them account for money they give them, I doubt they can make them do much of anything.

JMO.

Catching up here but I think it's time folks started paying attention to those Dutch investigators!!!  This was one of the documents that was posted by klaas by Natalees Frrebirds.


MORE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN RESPONSE TO AN INJUSTICE?

What happened to the Dutch investigation into this crime?

Could this conflict of interest have played a part in the lack of action by the Dutch officials?

Interior Minister Johan Remkes was called upon by Rudy Croes to take over the Natalee Holloway investigation in August of last year.

Official Remkes is the individual who recommended Paulus van der Sloot be appointed to the bench of the Joint Court.


Aruba's Justice Minister Rudy Croes sent a letter last week to Netherlands' Internal Affairs Minister Johan Remkes and to another Dutch official asking the Dutch police to handle the case, saying little progress had been made, the Solo di Pueblo newspaper reported.

If Dutch police take over the investigation, they will have access to all case files and their own office, according to the newspaper, which didn't cite its source. Remkes will visit the Dutch Caribbean islands, including Aruba, next week, authorities said in the Netherlands.
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/060826/aruba.shtml
8-26-06


APPOINTMENTS COMMON COURT OF JUSTICE OF the NETHERLANDS ANTILLES AND ARUBA

The realm council of ministers has agreed on proposal of minister (Johan) Remkes of internal matter and kingdom relations with a pair of appointments. The lord Mr. G.E.M. Polkamp (52) are proposed for appointment to member of the common Court of Justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. At present Mr Polkamp deputy member of the court is. The appointment discusses 1 January 2003. the lord Mr. P.A.P.J. of of the ditch (Paulus Van Der Sloot) (50) is proposed for appointment to deputy member of the common Court of Justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. The lord of of the ditch is now operative as a principal private secretary at the Procurator-General of Aruba. The appointment discusses 1 January 2003 for a period of three years.

http://www.regering.nl/actueel/nieu...20/42_12498.jsp
Full text in the .pdf file on that page. Translated by Babelfish, this is what you get:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/printthread.php?t=24596&page=21&pp=25


Remkes being called upon to act in this position of authoritative leadership over the Dutch investigation into this case where a personal judicial appointee of his was a suspect, whose son is still considered the prime suspect, leads us to question if that is the reason the Dutch have not moved forward with this investigation?

We've all seen how the Aruban investigation was handled, does it appear the Hague failed to learn Aruba's lesson?

Will they now share the same shameful results Aruba is currently experiencing?

Natalee and her family deserve justice, and we will not let up until they have it!

Natalee’s Freebirds
_________________


link is http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=599&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Thank you, Robots, who happens to be sweeter than Tupelo Honey!

They are Uggs and made in Australia.  I am wearing them in honor of Tibro being from there.

They are also super comfortable.

 :wink:

thats the same way i think

aruba wants it both ways.......i would like to see them get it both ways

a left hook followed by a right cross  8)

Once more with feeling:


The Dutch are all about the $$$$$$$$.  Don't give them yours until they do the right thing.


Shell Oil
Shell Gasoline and other petroleum products (note: Shell is owned by Queen Beatrix herself). If you are in a car and it pulls into a Shell gas station, tell them to go to another gas station and tell them why!

Heineken
Beer

Unilever
Dove (soaps, creams, deoderants)
Lux (soap)
Lipton (tea and other beverages)
Ice Creams: Magnum or Breyers
Vaseline
Ragu (spaghetti sauce)
I Can't Believe It's Not Butter
OMO (detergent)
Snuggle (fabric softener)
Shampoos: Organics, SunSilk, and ThermaSilk
Pond's (skincare products)
Close-Up (toothpaste) and Signal (toothpaste)
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ohh yea UGGS

i had my buddy send my daughter an UGGS purse

she loves it  8)

Robots,
I think I would like your daughter!  She changes clothes lots and likes Uggs!

 :D

I still get the headaches (cluster headaches) but they are getting a tad better and some nights I don't have them.
My problem is that I expect I will be good as new within days of a surgery! lol!  Not used to being this immobile so I tend to "overdo" things!
THanks for asking! :D

Good Mor.... Afternoon, Everybody!

I was up a little late last night...

sorryyyyyyyyy?!?!?!?!?!

You are funny! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

  LOL  Patti,
 I managed to sleep for about 3 hours.  :wink:

on average 3 times a day, she changes clothes

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


 8)  8)

OH...I LOVE my ughs!!!!
Nothing like them!  :lol:

Good Morning, you evil woman  :wink:

I woke up with cobwebs.  I had to drink a cup of coffee, then I had to go back and take a look at CBB's birthday present and now I feel great!

Wow!  I want one just like him......

J/K

 :lol:

Some of the Arubans love their island very passionately.  The Dutch don't love Aruba like the Arubans do.  I totally agree with Robots that it is much more likely an Aruban will tire of this mess and try to bring it to a conclusion one way or another.

ALE will jerk the Dutch around just the way they did the family and what exactly they could do about it, I don't know.  Perhaps invite Interpol to try their hand at the investigation?

A professional cover up is very hard to do anything about, especially one that makes evidence disappear.

Maybe statements are the only or best evidence that remains.  We don't have very many of those.  They collected no forensic evidence then say that is the only kind that counts--go figure on that one.   :roll:

Back to work. . . . . . .the sun is shining and is so bright it hurts my eyes!!

 :D

10 Dutch Experts

...arriving today.

THAT is the news. THAT is not just for show, IMO.

:)  Well when its your birthday.. you can have one too   :wink:

Igs,
I tend to agree that ten is a lot for a show.  Three would be a show.  But I dare not get up one shred of hope having been there and done that too many times!   :(

.

I hope you're right.  I always believe the best, like Robot; I have an
optomistic attitude.  I think there are good things coming down the pike.

Thanks Angie.

The following quote from the document you submitted by Natalee's Freebirds tells me that that there is a personal/professional conflict of interest that involves Paulus Van der Sloot and Johan Remkes that may imply that justice for Natalee Holloway will remain elusive.

Janet

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=599&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Interior Minister Johan Remkes was called upon by Rudy Croes to take over the Natalee Holloway investigation in August of last year.  Official Remkes is the individual who recommended Paulus van der Sloot be appointed to the bench of the Joint Court.

You're welcome. !!

OH, I do hope you are right, Patti.

Hey, Angie!!!

How ya doin' today?  :lol:

I pray and pray and pray that I'm right.  We'll just have to do everything that we can and hope for the best... that hope is what keeps us going.

 
Hey Art!!  feel like a peice of crap. Layed around all day.
How are YOU feeling chicky?  I hope you are coming along well!
 I read you are getting a snowstorm?  ICKY!  Hope it missses you!

Here is something funny greatowl posted in the lounge a little bit ago!

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1054


Its hilarious!  :lol:

I agree with Jossy that the MOJ wants the case shut down. Croes deciding to hand the case over to the KLPD 14 months after the family requested it cannot be trusted. Also, at the presser announcing the handover Remkes said KLPD would take *no more than a few weeks*.

But that was 6 months ago. KLPD is still on the case. OM recieved a 5 month extension to investigate. Now 10 police are going to Aruba. They must believe they can do something.

How ya feeling hon?  Did you end up getting some sleep light night.  Sometimes when I am feeling "sicky" and ... having trouble sleeping ... a half of gravol does that trick.

Take care Angie.

Janet

Igsigs - sure hope you are right!

oooo HOpe you get to feeling better, ANgie.

I'm doing great! Better than expected, so that is a good thing!

Ah..the snowstorm. Yes. I just spoke to my rep from BlueCross and he is down near Portland and he said the storm is hitting them now Hot and Heavy! He was leaving early to be sure he could get home!!!!
SO...that means it will be moving up towards me in a bit.

I just hope we don't lose power. Its supposed to be wet and heavy snow.

OMG, THAT is TOO funny!!!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Artcolley,

I am near Portland,  the snowflakes are as big as snowballs!  Well no, not that big, but they are huge.  

I'm ready if the power goes out.  I don't want it to, but am ready if it does.

 3 hours Janet. thats about it. Layed around all day today and got tired of laying in bed.  I will lay down again soon. Feel like crap.  :(
Umm.whats gravol? lol

Is it collecting yet?
Hubby is in Augusta today and will be traveling home in it later. Cripes. I hate for him to be out in this stuff.

Art and MrsD..  be safe. Hope you dont loose power either.
ART glad you have that woodburner!!!!!
  We are suppose to get flurried in PA over the weekend.
it stomred here a bit ago.. we have storm warnings. its really windy too.
I hear things blowing all around outside. Bet my garbage cans blew off.

A motion sickness pill.

I get seasick on our boat when my husband insists on travelling through those squalls.  It is a wonder our 41 year marriage has survived 40 summers on that ocean.  Anyways, a half of gravol makes me sleepy and ... when I wake up the ikky feeling has passed.

Angie, you could probably purchase the same medication under another brand name.

Janet