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« Reply #540 on: April 19, 2009, 12:36:18 PM »

starcat, looks like its you and me now... I did not mean to empty the cage !!
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« Reply #541 on: April 19, 2009, 01:02:24 PM »

good  Sunday morning monkeys,





Good morning, my friend.. how are you this fine Sunday Morning..  Have you had your coffee yet.. Good to see you back..

hello mlee.... yes maam, I have finisihed a pot of coffee and am now onto Sweet tea!


I love sweet tea! the only place that I know of where it is served where I live is at McDonalds...
love it!  you can readily get it in the South...
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« Reply #542 on: April 19, 2009, 01:05:29 PM »

Good afternoon Monkeys all and Happy Sunday to ya!


Child abductions by strangers actually rare

By Tom McNiff
Special to the Sun

Published: Sunday, April 19, 2009 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 11:22 p.m.

Crime wasn't an issue in tiny Benton, the southern Illinois town where Regina Freeman grew up.

"Two murders in 20 years," Freeman says wistfully, and one of them was the result of a drunken brawl.

The other, she says, was committed by the unlikeliest of suspects: a friendly young man who lived near the local middle school and handed out candy to boys and girls passing by on their way home.

The man, Rodney Barnhill, sexually assaulted and strangled a 12-year-old girl from Freeman's school and left her body in an abandoned home. Barnhill was convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

As awful as it was, the incident didn't deter Freeman and her friends from exploring their small town. They continued to venture far from home to visit friends or the corner store, out of sight of parents.

Now 39 and a mother of two preschoolers in Gainesville, Freeman ponders the dangers her children face and doubts they'll have the same freedom to roam that she did as they get older.

There is no doubt in her mind that the world in 2009 is a more dangerous place to be a child.

For her, incidents like the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings from her home near Palatka and the abductions of Jessica Lunsford in Citrus County and Carlie Brucia in Sarasota are sobering reminders that predators lurk everywhere.

"It was nothing for me to walk five or six blocks to the store," she says. "Nowadays, I say there's no way my child is walking five or six blocks anywhere."

But Freeman's fear belies two important facts that experts have known for years.

First, violent crimes against children have declined steadily over the past generation. The U.S. Department of Justice reports that 81 out of every 1,000 children between the ages of 12 and 15 were victims of violent crime in 1973, compared with 44 out of 1,000 in 2005.

And, second, the worst of those crimes - kidnappings, rapes and murders - are being committed not by strangers hunting innocents but by family members, neighbors or trusted adults the family knows.

In fact, the kidnappings of Carlie and Jessica by complete strangers, while terrifyingly sinister, are fairly rare events, representing only about one in every 2,900 abduction cases.

The most recent survey of kidnapping data conducted in 2002 for the U.S. Justice Department revealed that of the roughly 261,000 children who are abducted each year, the vast majority (203,900) are taken by a family member - often in a custody dispute - and just 90 to 115 are victims of "stereotypical kidnappings" like Carlie and Jessica.

A stereotypical kidnapping, according to the survey, known as the National Incidence Studies of Missing, Abducted, Runaway and Thrownaway Children (NISMART), is committed by a stranger or slight acquaintance. In these cases, the child is kept overnight, transported at least 50 miles, held for ransom, abducted with the intention of keeping the child permanently, or killed.

The remaining 58,000 or so abductions that occur annually are known as "nonfamily abductions," which occur when someone other than the child's family detains the child for a short period of time.

To many law enforcement agencies, these don't even qualify as abductions because the act of detaining the child is incidental to the primary crime, usually sexual abuse.

Often, the perpetrators of nonfamily abductions are people in a position of trust: neighbors, Scout leaders, friends of the family or even clergy.

That was the case with 13-year-old Sarah Lunde of Tampa, who was abducted and murdered in April 2005 by David Lee Onstott.

Onstott had been in a relationship with the girl's mother.

Yet the idea of a child being dragged off to be tortured, raped and murdered by a stranger is so terrifying and so well reported in the news media that parents, educators, even law enforcement officers and politicians, have accepted as fact that stranger abductions are more commonplace than they actually are.

"Those are the ones that capture the public's imagination, and they should because they're awful" says Jim Beasley, supervisory special agent for the FBI and a specialist in crimes against children. "But because they hear the story told over and over, people tend to forget that this is the same incident."

But who are these kidnappers? The FBI and researchers have spent a great deal of time looking for answers.

Unlike run-of-the-mill child molesters who don't fit a single profile, true child abductors share many traits, Beasley says.

They are, in overwhelming numbers, male. They tend to abduct children of their own race. They are loners who have trouble forging and maintaining stable relationships because they have below-average social skills. When they abduct children, it's almost always for sexual gratification.

And their crimes are generally committed on impulse, Beasley says. While the child molester works at gaining his victim's trust and has a plan for releasing them, the kidnapper often finds himself in a situation that is spinning out of control, panics and kills the child within hours of the abduction.

This creates a quandary for law enforcement, Beasley says. They must treat kidnappings as stranger abductions and launch an intense search in hopes of recovering the child quickly, but also focus intently on the more likely culprits: family, friends and acquaintances.

David Finkelhor, co-author of the NISMART report on missing children, says the danger in drawing so much public attention to relatively uncommon stranger abductions is that parents, law enforcement and politicians may fail to see the greater threat living next door or sitting in the family tree.

"It's hard for us to simultaneously trust those people in our social networks and be on guard against them," Finkelhor said. "It doesn't come as easily as girding yourself against the unknown predator."

Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, agrees. The center has worked in recent years to retool the stranger-danger method of identifying predators taught in schools and in homes and broaden the public's definition of kidnapper and child molester.

Allen said various studies show that children associate the word "stranger" with someone who is menacing in appearance, leaving them vulnerable to predators who are familiar or appear kindly.

"The message to not take candy from strangers is not a bad message, but it's incomplete," Allen said, "because the people who really represent the greatest threat to our children are not going to be identified by our children as a stranger."

The more effective strategy, he said, is to teach children what behaviors by adults are inappropriate.

Freeman, the Gainesville mother of two, is already working on that. Beyond the usual prohibitions against getting in cars with strangers and letting adults touch their bodies, she is trying to nurture her children's instinct to "trust your belly."

And while Freeman's overreactions amuse her husband - she was ready to dial 911 recently when her son hid from her at bedtime even though all the windows and doors were locked - she makes no apologies for her protective nature.

"I think it's better to be safe than sorry," she said, "I'd rather know that I've done everything I could possibly do to protect them."

Tom McNiff is managing editor of the Star-Banner in Ocala.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090419/ARTICLES/904191014/-1/ENTERTAINMENT05?Title=Child-abductions-by-strangers-actually-rare
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« Reply #543 on: April 19, 2009, 01:17:21 PM »

good  Sunday morning monkeys,





Good morning, my friend.. how are you this fine Sunday Morning..  Have you had your coffee yet.. Good to see you back..

hello mlee.... yes maam, I have finisihed a pot of coffee and am now onto Sweet tea!


I love sweet tea! the only place that I know of where it is served where I live is at McDonalds...
love it!  you can readily get it in the South...

oh, I make a new pot of sweet tea every morning with coffee. By the time I am finished with coffee, the tea is cooled enough to get me going for the rest of the day. My Memaws recipe is just as good as it was when she made it for me when I was a child.

The name of resturant in satsuma, gives me a little happy smile of my own Memaw, every time I take a sip of the sweet tea.  And, I never buy tea out in a restuarant. If the tea pot is not kept clean, there is a bacteria that grows, which freaks me out. SO, I never go anywhere without a cooler , of my own.. smiles
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« Reply #544 on: April 19, 2009, 01:20:44 PM »

good  Sunday morning monkeys,





Good morning, my friend.. how are you this fine Sunday Morning..  Have you had your coffee yet.. Good to see you back..

hello mlee.... yes maam, I have finisihed a pot of coffee and am now onto Sweet tea!


I love sweet tea! the only place that I know of where it is served where I live is at McDonalds...
love it!  you can readily get it in the South...

oh, I make a new pot of sweet tea every morning with coffee. By the time I am finished with coffee, the tea is cooled enough to get me going for the rest of the day. My Memaws recipe is just as good as it was when she made it for me when I was a child.

The name of resturant in satsuma, gives me a little happy smile of my own Memaw, every time I take a sip of the sweet tea.  And, I never buy tea out in a restuarant. If the tea pot is not kept clean, there is a bacteria that grows, which freaks me out. SO, I never go anywhere without a cooler , of my own.. smiles

can I get your recipe for sweet tea in Musings or else in the recipe thread that is on here...? I would love that!
I very seldom order tea in a restaurant either...can have a funky taste...
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« Reply #545 on: April 19, 2009, 01:26:00 PM »

good  Sunday morning monkeys,





Since my Memaw was a very loving and sharing woman, I think that she would be proud to know her Sweet tea recipe is still shared with others. It is the words and knowledge of our elders that keep us grounded after all.   I will post it in recipe 's here, later on for ya.
smiles , mio

Good morning, my friend.. how are you this fine Sunday Morning..  Have you had your coffee yet.. Good to see you back..

hello mlee.... yes maam, I have finisihed a pot of coffee and am now onto Sweet tea!


I love sweet tea! the only place that I know of where it is served where I live is at McDonalds...
love it!  you can readily get it in the South...

oh, I make a new pot of sweet tea every morning with coffee. By the time I am finished with coffee, the tea is cooled enough to get me going for the rest of the day. My Memaws recipe is just as good as it was when she made it for me when I was a child.

The name of resturant in satsuma, gives me a little happy smile of my own Memaw, every time I take a sip of the sweet tea.  And, I never buy tea out in a restuarant. If the tea pot is not kept clean, there is a bacteria that grows, which freaks me out. SO, I never go anywhere without a cooler , of my own.. smiles

can I get your recipe for sweet tea in Musings or else in the recipe thread that is on here...? I would love that!
I very seldom order tea in a restaurant either...can have a funky taste...

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« Reply #546 on: April 19, 2009, 01:29:44 PM »

yikes, dont know how my answer got in the middle of the post. ( i was at work)
..must have been a sugar rush...
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« Reply #547 on: April 19, 2009, 01:34:57 PM »

yikes, dont know how my answer got in the middle of the post. ( i was at work)
..must have been a sugar rush...

ok..I didn't see your reply anywhere in the above post, not in the top, not in the middle and not in the end..tee hee!
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« Reply #548 on: April 19, 2009, 01:37:34 PM »

yikes, dont know how my answer got in the middle of the post. ( i was at work)
..must have been a sugar rush...

ok..I didn't see your reply anywhere in the above post, not in the top, not in the middle and not in the end..tee hee!

keep sluthing young grasshopper monkey, and you will find the answer you seek.   
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« Reply #549 on: April 19, 2009, 02:31:59 PM »

Never Judge a Book by it’s Cover … Brit Susan Boyle Wows them All with I Dream the Dream from Les Miserables

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/04/19/never-judge-a-book-by-its-cover-brit-susan-boyle-wows-them-all-with-i-dream-the-dream-from-les-miserables/

Let this be an inspirational metaphor for many things in life. One never knows exactly where a gift will come from, in what shape, size or appearance.

In the world of missing persons and true crime ... inspirational metaphors are most welcome. One never knows what will solve and change a case.
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« Reply #550 on: April 19, 2009, 02:47:47 PM »

Never Judge a Book by it’s Cover … Brit Susan Boyle Wows them All with I Dream the Dream from Les Miserables

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/04/19/never-judge-a-book-by-its-cover-brit-susan-boyle-wows-them-all-with-i-dream-the-dream-from-les-miserables/

Let this be an inspirational metaphor for many things in life. One never knows exactly where a gift will come from, in what shape, size or appearance.

In the world of missing persons and true crime ... inspirational metaphors are most welcome. One never knows what will solve and change a case.
Thank-you for posting that, I have watched several times, and was amazed everytime. And yes one never knows what will solve and change a case, or really solve and change a great many things.
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« Reply #551 on: April 19, 2009, 07:08:21 PM »

Never Judge a Book by it’s Cover … Brit Susan Boyle Wows them All with I Dream the Dream from Les Miserables

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/04/19/never-judge-a-book-by-its-cover-brit-susan-boyle-wows-them-all-with-i-dream-the-dream-from-les-miserables/

Let this be an inspirational metaphor for many things in life. One never knows exactly where a gift will come from, in what shape, size or appearance.

In the world of missing persons and true crime ... inspirational metaphors are most welcome. One never knows what will solve and change a case.
Thank-you for posting that, I have watched several times, and was amazed everytime. And yes one never knows what will solve and change a case, or really solve and change a great many things.

Thank you Red...for that excellent posting.  I am flabergasted, amazed, and stunned...It was beautiful.
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« Reply #552 on: April 19, 2009, 09:26:26 PM »

Never Judge a Book by it’s Cover … Brit Susan Boyle Wows them All with I Dream the Dream from Les Miserables

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/04/19/never-judge-a-book-by-its-cover-brit-susan-boyle-wows-them-all-with-i-dream-the-dream-from-les-miserables/

Let this be an inspirational metaphor for many things in life. One never knows exactly where a gift will come from, in what shape, size or appearance.

In the world of missing persons and true crime ... inspirational metaphors are most welcome. One never knows what will solve and change a case.
Thank-you for posting that, I have watched several times, and was amazed everytime. And yes one never knows what will solve and change a case, or really solve and change a great many things.

Thank you Red...for that excellent posting.  I am flabergasted, amazed, and stunned...It was beautiful.

Thank you to Red.. That song was amazing sung by a amazing women who has talent. I watch it 10 times or more so far.. Susan sang the song better than Elaine Page which was on u-tube.. A beautiful song sung by a beautiful women ...
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« Reply #553 on: April 19, 2009, 09:42:13 PM »

Anybody know if Cobra is back in Satsuma? I read rumors earlier that there was a Cobra sighting there. I read somewhere last week that he was supposed to be returning.
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« Reply #554 on: April 19, 2009, 09:56:48 PM »

Good Evening Monkeys......

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« Reply #555 on: April 19, 2009, 10:11:24 PM »

Good Evening Monkeys......

Golly, Jerseygirl345 - I didn't think there was anyone around to snap that pic of ...

You, mlee & me!!!   I love it.  We must have been discussing the Haleigh case, NO??

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« Reply #556 on: April 19, 2009, 10:18:24 PM »

Good Evening Monkeys......

Golly, Jerseygirl345 - I didn't think there was anyone around to snap that pic of ...

You, mlee & me!!!   I love it.  We must have been discussing the Haleigh case, NO??



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« Reply #557 on: April 19, 2009, 10:22:20 PM »

Haleigh WENT missing from the trailer.

Caylee WAS/WASN'T actually MISSING in the beginning ( 31 days)

Thinking about the evidence that has been discussed about the dryer, etc..

They did not do a full search of the Anthony's home, cause Caylee was not reported missing or abducted from the home.

In Haleigh's case, she WAS reported as being abducted from the TRAILER.

So, when they went to the Cummings trailer, and sealed it off as a crime scene, I am SURE that they covered every inch of that trailer with a fine toothed comb.  If there was any ..lint..in that dryer vent or pipes indicating foul play then they have it. 

They very well may have some nailing evidence, but what is the rest of the story??  Do we really know that RON was NOT at the trailer from say 10 - 3:30 until he said he got home.  Do we really KNOW that Misty was AT THE TRAILER, she said she was....which would put her first in line here for suspicion.  The 'rumors' are saying that MISTY was not at the trailer, was out, so how could she be the guilty one??

Ron was at work, Misty was at the trailer.  Those are their stories and they are sticking to them.  If Misty was guilty and something did happen to Haleigh, WHY would Misty say she was home all evening??

If Misty was out partying, and someone did take Haleigh, then that would put both children home alone, and WHY would they not have taken Ron Jr. as well??

In my mind, I have walked up that ramp entered the door, took a tour of the trailer, trying to come up with an answer.  I then left thru the main door, and stood outside....with the same questions that I had before I entered.

 

Just as I went to preview my post and began reading.  I re-read my first line.

How do we KNOW....that Misty, Haleigh & Ron Jr....along with all of the other's that had shown up that evening to visit....were even there AT ALL???

Could Misty have taken the kids somewhere else, and this is the possibility that something happend to Haleigh...and NOT AT THE TRAILER.Ron Jr. may have been given something to make his sleep....

                

That had crossed my mind....
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« Reply #558 on: April 19, 2009, 10:24:25 PM »

Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony – BNN On The Radio - Wrap Up Apr/19

Posted on April 19th, 2009
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It was another lively hour of talk in radio, our panel consisted of Simon and Jan Barrett, Ms. Pickles, Denny Griffin, and ace reporter on the ground TJ Hart from Sky 97.3 out of Gainsville Florida.

Many think that the Haleigh Cummings story is already a ‘cold case’, that is wrong, it is far from cold. People are working overtime on it. TJ brought us up to speed, and in discussions before we went on air, there is more to come. TJ will keep us in the loop.

On the straight facts, a couple of things came out, the company that Ronald Cummings worked for appears to have reneged on a deal to keep his job open during this trying time. This almost certainly will result in a nasty law suit.

Biological mother Crystal Smith seems to have some health issues. TJ met with Crystal yesterday and apparently she does not look good, the pressure of a missing child is obviously taking its toll.

The one thing that I admire about TJ, is his honesty. It is a rare find in the press world. I do hope that everyone will check out The Sky 97.3

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« Reply #559 on: April 19, 2009, 10:47:54 PM »

Just thinking outloud...

Mother Teresa arrived pretty fast @ the Cummings home that night... I just wonder if she was their earlier then left and came back like to make it look she just arrived....
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