Natalee Case Discussion #750 5/2 - 5/8/08

[Dihannah1]

Hi Monkeys!

Janet, can you please email me at dihannah1@yahoo.com, please?

[Peaches]

Destiny, if you want to email whatever start you have going, I'd be happy to see what I can do and then send it back to you.  (As opposed to editing it out here in front of God and everybody.)

[Destiny]

Someone needs to contact Beth/Dave...ask them what they want as far as a tip line in the US....I'll go with her wants....Don't think the locals of Aruba would feel *safe* with a tip line there....

Destiny

Destiny, I just spoke to Jug, Beth is fine with the ad going in. Great job!!!
I will see if I can get a US hotline number.

Idstlou....Thank You so very much!

Are they aware of the gist of the ad...and what we hope to accomplish with it?   And that Diario might be willing to give us the space for free...if it is directed to the little people of Aruba?...and that it will run in the same issue that they deal with the perps/facts on this unsloved case?

TIA....and for your hard work too

I sent that post you had too about talking to Diario today. Can you e-mail me for more details?

Yep...can do....please, someone send my email addy to Idstlou...or vice versa....TIA...Destiny

[ldstlou]

i don't think it is too uncommon that people do drugs in airplane toilets.
but lighting a joint or cigarette is stupid because the smoke alarm goes off straight away.

i wonder if they handed him over the authorities.
maybe there is some truth in the earlier story that he was busted for drugs.

Hi caesu, seems he was transporting drugs for his own consumption... minor charge usually, but what happened there? any charges? or is he still getting away with crimes?... does anyone want to ever charge him with any of the offenses he has allegedly committed?

sure seems like someone is protecting him... but why?

he should have been charged. especially if travelling to/from thailand or hongkong. stricter laws on drugs.
maybe these details will become public later.

if he is not charged he is getting away with more offenses.

but he is really making a mess. loosing his passport. stealing money from this dutch guy. smoking weed in an airplane.
but this is probably his usual behaviour. only now everybody watches him.

why in the hey wasn't he arrested if he was smoking pot on a plane...isn't that illegal???!!!

i watched the RTL Boulevard segment now.

Peter R. de Vries said that the airline staff and Joran agreed to cover up to prevent him from being charged/detained because Thailand has heavy penalties on drugs offenses. it was on a flight to Bangkok.
someone in the airline tipped Peter R. de Vries of in an e-mail.
 

That so sucks!! I am so tired of this creep getting a free pass on his crimes!!!

[ldstlou]

Someone needs to contact Beth/Dave...ask them what they want as far as a tip line in the US....I'll go with her wants....Don't think the locals of Aruba would feel *safe* with a tip line there....

Destiny

Destiny, I just spoke to Jug, Beth is fine with the ad going in. Great job!!!
I will see if I can get a US hotline number.

Idstlou....Thank You so very much!

Are they aware of the gist of the ad...and what we hope to accomplish with it?   And that Diario might be willing to give us the space for free...if it is directed to the little people of Aruba?...and that it will run in the same issue that they deal with the perps/facts on this unsloved case?

TIA....and for your hard work too

I sent that post you had too about talking to Diario today. Can you e-mail me for more details?

Yep...can do....please, someone send my email addy to Idstlou...or vice versa....TIA...Destiny

ok..it's ldstlou@sbcglobal.net

the "l" is a small L not an I  lol

[Destiny]

Destiny, if you want to email whatever start you have going, I'd be happy to see what I can do and then send it back to you.  (As opposed to editing it out here in front of God and everybody.)

Peaches....I'm a great *talker*...writer I don't know....maybe when Klaas gets back we can establish a *closed* thread...only for those that Monkeys here with approval to access...where we can work on/write the ad....what Ya think?....I agree...I only trust God/Goddess on this one....LOL

[Peaches]

Destiny, if you want to email whatever start you have going, I'd be happy to see what I can do and then send it back to you.  (As opposed to editing it out here in front of God and everybody.)

Peaches....I'm a great *talker*...writer I don't know....maybe when Klaas gets back we can establish a *closed* thread...only for those that Monkeys here with approval to access...where we can work on/write the ad....what Ya think?....I agree...I only trust God/Goddess on this one....LOL

You've got mail.  You've got mail.  YAAAAAAAAAA

[always 1]

willl someone help me out?  Okay Marion is Simeon because they share the same Im?  and CapsLockWizard, have we always know he was in Aruba....and when he says this new person G somebody is the killler.....the killer of Nat???

[Pita]

i don't think it is too uncommon that people do drugs in airplane toilets.
but lighting a joint or cigarette is stupid because the smoke alarm goes off straight away.

i wonder if they handed him over the authorities.
maybe there is some truth in the earlier story that he was busted for drugs.

Hi caesu, seems he was transporting drugs for his own consumption... minor charge usually, but what happened there? any charges? or is he still getting away with crimes?... does anyone want to ever charge him with any of the offenses he has allegedly committed?

sure seems like someone is protecting him... but why?

he should have been charged. especially if travelling to/from thailand or hongkong. stricter laws on drugs.
maybe these details will become public later.

if he is not charged he is getting away with more offenses.

but he is really making a mess. loosing his passport. stealing money from this dutch guy. smoking weed in an airplane.
but this is probably his usual behaviour. only now everybody watches him.

why in the hey wasn't he arrested if he was smoking pot on a plane...isn't that illegal???!!!

i watched the RTL Boulevard segment now.

Peter R. de Vries said that the airline staff and Joran agreed to cover up to prevent him from being charged/detained because Thailand has heavy penalties on drugs offenses. it was on a flight to Bangkok.
someone in the airline tipped Peter R. de Vries of in an e-mail.
 

That so sucks!! I am so tired of this creep getting a free pass on his crimes!!!

I don't know he was able to board a plane with a working lighter or matches.   

[bleachedblack]

Smoking anything on an airline is illegal. Why the Joran was once again allowed to slide is beyond me. Maybe a few years in a Thailand jail would have done him good.

[Destiny]

Smoking anything on an airline is illegal. Why the Joran was once again allowed to slide is beyond me. Maybe a few years in a Thailand jail would have done him good.

Won't happen....

[Tamikosmom]

i don't think it is too uncommon that people do drugs in airplane toilets.
but lighting a joint or cigarette is stupid because the smoke alarm goes off straight away.

i wonder if they handed him over the authorities.
maybe there is some truth in the earlier story that he was busted for drugs.

Hi caesu, seems he was transporting drugs for his own consumption... minor charge usually, but what happened there? any charges? or is he still getting away with crimes?... does anyone want to ever charge him with any of the offenses he has allegedly committed?

sure seems like someone is protecting him... but why?

he should have been charged. especially if travelling to/from thailand or hongkong. stricter laws on drugs.
maybe these details will become public later.

if he is not charged he is getting away with more offenses.

but he is really making a mess. loosing his passport. stealing money from this dutch guy. smoking weed in an airplane.
but this is probably his usual behaviour. only now everybody watches him.

why in the hey wasn't he arrested if he was smoking pot on a plane...isn't that illegal???!!!

i watched the RTL Boulevard segment now.

Peter R. de Vries said that the airline staff and Joran agreed to cover up to prevent him from being charged/detained because Thailand has heavy penalties on drugs offenses. it was on a flight to Bangkok.
someone in the airline tipped Peter R. de Vries of in an e-mail.
 

SO!!!

Since when did Peter Devries become Joran van der Sloot's protector?  Does he not claim to be an advocate for Natalee Holloway.  Devries is the witness for the prosecution if the Natalee Holloway case ever goes to court. Logic implies Joran is suppose to hate Peter because of the hidden camera incident.  What is wrong with this picture?
 
Devries is doing exact what Joran's parents ... the Aruban authorities ... the management of all the casino/night clubs have been doing all along ... teaching Joran van der sloot the boundaries established by a civilized society do not apply to him.  Why is Joran so special that he gets a free pass for breaking airline rules but ... other are expected conform or face the consequences.

I am so angry!!!  I would get kicked out of the Monkey cage in a second if I articulated my opinion of Peter Devries.  All I will say ... the smokescreen is clearing and ... the real Peter Devries is being reveal.

caesu ... would you please provide a link to Peter Devries explanation of what took place in regards to the plane incident.

Thank you.

Janet

[GBMW]

i don't think it is too uncommon that people do drugs in airplane toilets.
but lighting a joint or cigarette is stupid because the smoke alarm goes off straight away.

i wonder if they handed him over the authorities.
maybe there is some truth in the earlier story that he was busted for drugs.

Hi caesu, seems he was transporting drugs for his own consumption... minor charge usually, but what happened there? any charges? or is he still getting away with crimes?... does anyone want to ever charge him with any of the offenses he has allegedly committed?

sure seems like someone is protecting him... but why?

he should have been charged. especially if travelling to/from thailand or hongkong. stricter laws on drugs.
maybe these details will become public later.

if he is not charged he is getting away with more offenses.

but he is really making a mess. loosing his passport. stealing money from this dutch guy. smoking weed in an airplane.
but this is probably his usual behaviour. only now everybody watches him.

why in the hey wasn't he arrested if he was smoking pot on a plane...isn't that illegal???!!!

i watched the RTL Boulevard segment now.

Peter R. de Vries said that the airline staff and Joran agreed to cover up to prevent him from being charged/detained because Thailand has heavy penalties on drugs offenses. it was on a flight to Bangkok.
someone in the airline tipped Peter R. de Vries of in an e-mail.
 

SO!!!

Since when did Peter Devries become Joran van der Sloot's protector?  Does he not claim to be an advocate for Natalee Holloway.  Devries is the witness for the prosecution if the Natalee Holloway case ever goes to court. Logic implies Joran is suppose to hate Peter because of the hidden camera incident.  What is wrong with this picture?
 
Devries is doing exact what Joran's parents ... the Aruban authorities ... the management of all the casino/night clubs have been doing all along ... teaching Joran van der sloot the boundaries established by a civilized society do not apply to him.  Why is Joran so special that he gets a free pass for breaking airline rules but ... other are expected conform or face the consequences.

I am so angry!!!  I would get kicked out of the Monkey cage in a second if I articulated my opinion of Peter Devries.  All I will say ... the smokescreen is clearing and ... the real Peter Devries is being reveal.

caesu ... would you please provide a link to Peter Devries explanation of what took place in regards to the plane incident.

Thank you.

Janet

Janet, I've posted a link a few posts back. Peter did make a remark about Joran getting a pass AGAIN. They also mentioned Mart again in the show...Paulus & Anita responded to the letter he send...they stated "You understand we've got nothing to do with this"....Peter had a nasty remarkt about that attitude of his parents as well.

So please don't jump to conclusions....

[Tamikosmom]

Maybe I jumped to conclusion but ... why would the airline employee have contacted Derives.  I suspect it was at Joran's request.

Something is not right.  Devries is suppose to be Natalee Holloway's advocate.

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

i don't think it is too uncommon that people do drugs in airplane toilets.
but lighting a joint or cigarette is stupid because the smoke alarm goes off straight away.

i wonder if they handed him over the authorities.
maybe there is some truth in the earlier story that he was busted for drugs.

Hi caesu, seems he was transporting drugs for his own consumption... minor charge usually, but what happened there? any charges? or is he still getting away with crimes?... does anyone want to ever charge him with any of the offenses he has allegedly committed?

sure seems like someone is protecting him... but why?

he should have been charged. especially if travelling to/from thailand or hongkong. stricter laws on drugs.
maybe these details will become public later.

if he is not charged he is getting away with more offenses.

but he is really making a mess. loosing his passport. stealing money from this dutch guy. smoking weed in an airplane.
but this is probably his usual behaviour. only now everybody watches him.

why in the hey wasn't he arrested if he was smoking pot on a plane...isn't that illegal???!!!

i watched the RTL Boulevard segment now.

Peter R. de Vries said that the airline staff and Joran agreed to cover up to prevent him from being charged/detained because Thailand has heavy penalties on drugs offenses. it was on a flight to Bangkok.
someone in the airline tipped Peter R. de Vries of in an e-mail.
 

SO!!!

Since when did Peter Devries become Joran van der Sloot's protector?  Does he not claim to be an advocate for Natalee Holloway.  Devries is the witness for the prosecution if the Natalee Holloway case ever goes to court. Logic implies Joran is suppose to hate Peter because of the hidden camera incident.  What is wrong with this picture?
 
Devries is doing exact what Joran's parents ... the Aruban authorities ... the management of all the casino/night clubs have been doing all along ... teaching Joran van der sloot the boundaries established by a civilized society do not apply to him.  Why is Joran so special that he gets a free pass for breaking airline rules but ... other are expected conform or face the consequences.

I am so angry!!!  I would get kicked out of the Monkey cage in a second if I articulated my opinion of Peter Devries.  All I will say ... the smokescreen is clearing and ... the real Peter Devries is being reveal.

caesu ... would you please provide a link to Peter Devries explanation of what took place in regards to the plane incident.

Thank you.

Janet

Janet, I've posted a link a few posts back. Peter did make a remark about Joran getting a pass AGAIN. They also mentioned Mart again in the show...Paulus & Anita responded to the letter he send...they stated "You understand we've got nothing to do with this"....Peter had a nasty remarkt about that attitude of his parents as well.

So please don't jump to conclusions....

For once I agree with Paulus and Anita.  What was Peter Devries solution ... bailing Joran out.

Thank you GBMW.

Hubby and I are going for walk with dog (couple plus dog) (two plus dog) LOL.

Maybe fresh air is where it is at.

Later, Janet.

Janet

[hotping]

Maybe I jumped to conclusion but ... why would the airline employee have contacted Derives.  I suspect it was at Joran's request.

Something is not right.  Devries is suppose to be Natalee Holloway's advocate.

Janet

Janet...Why would Joran request this be made public? Maybe the Airline Employee(Who is Honest) reported it to Peter to get Him to investigate and get the employees who covered it up and Joran in trouble for it.....

[Peaches]

Think about it.  An airline employee is witness to or whatever this alleged incident on the airplane.  Said employee wants to tell someone but do so anonymously.  WHO YA GONNA CALL? 

Apparently to some, the answer is Peter De Vries.

[Kiwi]

Hi all- Do we know the airline here, so that I or anyone else will never fly it ever again. Personally, any airline that allows people to smoke in the bathrooms openly and without penalty is too unsafe to fly with. Note here - terrorist groups now know that the screening is flawed on this airline and the flight crews can be compromised. Also if you have stock in this airline you should sell. Sorry but todays world doesn't allow for these kind of choices on airplanes.

[GBMW]

Maybe I jumped to conclusion but ... why would the airline employee have contacted Derives.  I suspect it was at Joran's request.

Something is not right.  Devries is suppose to be Natalee Holloway's advocate.

Janet

Maybe that employee didn't agree with what happened. If the airline decided to keep it quiet and Peter R. de Vries 'outed' that employee tonight...someone working on that flight will be in trouble. So I doubt the staffmember would have done this because Joran has asked him to do this & is probably a bit angry with Peter R. de Vries right now...if that person isn't & thought this would be without consequences...well then it's not a very smart person...jmo.
I've got a friend working for KLM...I'll ask her if she's heard anything...but I don't know if Joran flew with KLM & a lot of people work there.

Maybe it's also got to do with the security checks...that they didn't want their obvious leak to be outed....drugs / weed shouldn't have been on that plane in the first place & the airline might have been afraid of the trouble that it would have caused somehow.

[hotping]

Hi all- Do we know the airline here, so that I or anyone else will never fly it ever again. Personally, any airline that allows people to smoke in the bathrooms openly and without penalty is too unsafe to fly with. Note here - terrorist groups now know that the screening is flawed on this airline and the flight crews can be compromised. Also if you have stock in this airline you should sell. Sorry but todays world doesn't allow for these kind of choices on airplanes.

I Agree KIWI...this is total BS....if The Employess did let Joran go on this then They need to be in Jail along with Him...JMO