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Author Topic: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13  (Read 280563 times)
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« Reply #480 on: July 10, 2013, 11:46:39 AM »

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Unusual to yell for help if fighting, see other person has gun? Anbody "looking down the barrell of a firearm" would yell. #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #481 on: July 10, 2013, 11:47:45 AM »

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Guy: #GeorgeZimmerman didn't try other options before shooting? Root: "He did scream for help... I don't know what else he could have done."
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« Reply #482 on: July 10, 2013, 11:49:01 AM »

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JohnGuy: If u were #Trayvon & saw gun, wud u have started screaming?
#Root: No. I'd grab for the gun.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman.
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Verbal component to use of force? Root: Yes. Guy: Includes identifying yourself? "Yes... always a good idea." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #483 on: July 10, 2013, 11:51:33 AM »

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The defense expert says #Zimmermanon9 would naturally have tried to struggle to get away and there was evidence of that.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The state is trying to say Martin might have screamed for help for 40 seconds because #Zimmermanon9 had a gun

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m He says the angle could have been created by any number of positions of the body
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« Reply #484 on: July 10, 2013, 11:55:12 AM »

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@frontroyalgirl Yes, I tweeted that: http://bit.ly/16qWbDY

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Bench conference, as Guy was asking Root about what information he used to determine #TrayvonMartin was "physically active." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #485 on: July 10, 2013, 11:55:53 AM »

OMG she isn't letting the phone in, REVERSIBLE error.  im sorry but this judge is so off the mark its ridiculous. 

  ITA- I see reversible error all over this case........very low threshold to bring in text messages and I wish I could say I was shocked, but with with Biatch totally not.....

This just isn't true.  It's been common knowledge in the legal community that these texts and images would likely not be permissible:

Article from May 2013
http://www.news4jax.com/news/george-zimmerman-attorneys-release-pictures-from-trayvon-martins-cellphone/-/475880/20273016/-/item/1/-/xglunr/-/index.html
 
Many other lawyers say most of this material will never be shown inside the Seminole County Courtroom during the trial this summer.

The new president of the local chapter of Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers agrees with the prosecutor on this issue.

"There is no reason why this information has been released, other than to affect jurors," said attorney Gene Nichols. "The allegation, or what the Zimmerman defense team wants everyone to believe, is that Trayvon was a violent young man. They want you to believe that Trayvon was involved with drugs because maybe he made statements over his texts. These are texts that would most likely never see the light of day in court."
 

It's also very unlikely that Trayvon Martin's parents believe losing their son was a favor to them.  You're a parent Island Monkey so I'm surprised you would believe that.
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« Reply #486 on: July 10, 2013, 11:58:20 AM »

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Guy: Is "suspect" a law enforcement term? Root: "Oh sure. It's also a crime prevention term also." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

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You heard #GeorgeZimmerman asked by dispatcher if following #TrayvonMartin, answer yes? Root: "Yes sir, absolutely." #ZimmermanTrial
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« Reply #487 on: July 10, 2013, 12:00:49 PM »

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The state asked about Martin's athletic ability. The defense wanted to use a photo of his physique but the judge said no.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m The defense expert says if #Zimmermanon9  were surprised by Martin he might not have thought to communicate and introduce
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« Reply #488 on: July 10, 2013, 12:04:02 PM »

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Screengrab: O'Mara mounts dummy, bangs its head against floor to demonstrate bashing. #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/8XSgYXIlgp

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« Reply #489 on: July 10, 2013, 12:05:38 PM »

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O'Mara: State suggestion #TrayvonMartin backing off possible? Root: Yes, but I have no evidence of that. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #490 on: July 10, 2013, 12:07:44 PM »

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Screengrab: O'Mara demonstrates state's #TrayvonMartin-backing-off concept. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman pic.twitter.com/CGgfkA3PIV

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354994762123706368/photo/1
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« Reply #491 on: July 10, 2013, 12:08:06 PM »

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The state asked about Martin's athletic ability. The defense wanted to use a photo of his physique but the judge said no.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m The defense expert says if #Zimmermanon9  were surprised by Martin he might not have thought to communicate and introduce

 
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« Reply #492 on: July 10, 2013, 12:11:34 PM »

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The expert asked how #Zimmermanon9  be the aggressor and not hurt Martin who had no injuries aside from gunshot and knuckle scrapes.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The defense is demonstrating all the possible scenarios and said there's no absolute proof of any of them

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The defense used the state's black mannequin to show how Martin could have driven #Zimmermanon9 's head into concrete
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« Reply #493 on: July 10, 2013, 12:12:00 PM »

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O'Mara: Possible #TrayvonMartin was on #GeorgeZimmerman's thighs, gun accessible? Root: Yes. pic.twitter.com/Ebr0qOD7xz


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« Reply #494 on: July 10, 2013, 12:13:31 PM »

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JohnGuy: If u were #Trayvon & saw gun, wud u have started screaming?
#Root: No. I'd grab for the gun.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman.
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Verbal component to use of force? Root: Yes. Guy: Includes identifying yourself? "Yes... always a good idea." #ZimmermanTrial

OUCH!!! That little tid bit is not what the prosecution wanted to hear.
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« Reply #495 on: July 10, 2013, 12:14:32 PM »

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#ZimmermanTrial: Judge issues key rulings, defense expert testifies | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18N0YWK  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Lunch time. Court resumes at 1:45, Nelson says. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nelson: Jury is going out for special, long lunch break. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
When #GeorgeZimmerman was following, "it's because there's no threat," #TrayvonMartin "took off running." GZ's tone changed. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara: Explain to jury how #GeorgeZimmerman didn't strike single blow. Root: #TrayvonMartin "raining down" blows, GZ "incapable" to resist.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
O'Mara: "Most anything" can be weapon? Root agrees, says no evidence #TrayvonMartin hit by anything. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #496 on: July 10, 2013, 12:21:42 PM »

Paraphrasing Mark Furman just now; The state is just trying to poke holes in a solid defense.
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« Reply #497 on: July 10, 2013, 12:35:23 PM »

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Guy: #GeorgeZimmerman didn't try other options before shooting? Root: "He did scream for help... I don't know what else he could have done."

Stun Gun?  Pepper Spray?  Bear Spray (reaches up to 35 feet)!
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« Reply #498 on: July 10, 2013, 12:38:21 PM »

Paraphrasing Mark Furman just now; The state is just trying to poke holes in a solid defense.

Who here thinks that we have role reversal in this case?

I have to say this is one of the most bizarre and weakest cases I have ever seen or heard of tried. Normally what happens is the Prosecution lays out a solid case against a defendant with solid evidence and witnesses. The Defense then tries to poke holes or (reasonable doubt) in the State's case.

This case is just the opposite. The State (prosecution) does realize they have the burden of proof, correct? Many of the prosecution witnesses were actually better for the defense. Had it not been for a couple of rulings on the part of Judge Norton, especially the TM tweets on his cell phone, this case would be a KO.

Sorry, just have never seen anything like this, ever.
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« Reply #499 on: July 10, 2013, 12:38:54 PM »

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Here's your lunch break state-vs-defense dummy mounting collage: Prosecutor John Guy & defense attorney Mark O'Mara pic.twitter.com/VaGOE4nTDd

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