Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[Ono]

**His**

[cece]

I agree Klaas, but I think the markers are being called in for him. He is asking everyone for money and I think he is not able to keep up whatever arrangement he may have made to BE GOOD or PAY OFF...maybe that's what killed PVDS. after Paulus was gone Anita cut Joran off financially? Or just lately...this tourny was supposed to be held in March but was bounced to May because of the earthquake at that time. PVDS died in February. Was JVDS still in Thailand and returned home only for the funeral? did he ever go back to thailand- read he trashed a room, hotel or where he stayed, and his uncle had to bail him out....and who is running the store for him now...the Coffee shop/prostitutioncatessan?

Too many loose ends. He appears to have walked away from the business altogether.
S

I thought I read a few pages back (from a link provided) that he had sold the coffee shop?  Can't remember how much they paid him for it.

Cece, I think the couple paid him 12,000K

Thanks so much AZSunny!    You guys are so fast!

[jjayinthemorning]

6. Do you know the person Elton Garcia and the person who lives Stephany Flores Tatiana Ramirez (21) was called? If yes, please indicate where and when you came to know and tell them about your relationship to them.

Elton-Garcia is a friend of mine. I met him two weeks ago to know the Atlantic City casinos in Lima. Stephany Flores, I have met in Atlantic City casinos, about May 27 She was a knowledge I have not been granted.

 

What???
Elton Garcia was just a guy who knew the casinos in Lima.
And Stephany was a girl who frequented the casinos playing poker he just met randomly?
Why are their names in the same question?

[Tamikosmom]

Unlike Grace ... love her or ... hate her ... Nancy Grace gets it and says it how it is!

Janet

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Nut44x4
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 -
« Reply #456 on: June 03, 2010, 03:29:17 PM »

GRACE:  If an angel descended from heaven and told them sitting on a stack of bibles that they were an eyewitness to the murder of Natalee Holloway, Aruban prosecutors are not going to do anything. It doesn`t matter.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/02/ng.01.html

[Ono]

Sorry if this is a repeat:

Statement Joran van der Sloot

Below is the complete translation of the ten pages of explanation of Joran van der Sloot.

Statement by Peter Andreaus Joran van der Sloot (22)



Original link:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6944033/__Verklaring_Joran_van_der_Sloot__.html?cid=short

(I can't get the google translation link to work)

Thanks Cece!

Dutch to English translation (so it was Spanish to Dutch then google Dutch to English):

Statement Joran van der Sloot
NO - The following is the complete translation of the ten pages of the declaration of Joran van der Sloot.



26. Is it true that you then have attracted her clothes and if so, why?

- I really do not know, but I think so. It was after her to have slain. It was her pants and her shoes, but nothing else. I do not know why I did it.

Here is something weird that got lost in translation

26. Is it true that you put on her clothes? and if so why?

A: I dont know but i think so. It happened after killing her. It was her pants and her shoes but nothing else i dont know why i did it.

Thanks-I wondered what that meant.

[Maggie]

Could someone tell me again where to find the complete confession in English? TIA

[Ono]

Unlike Grace ... love her or ... hate her ... Nancy Grace gets it and says it how it is!

Janet

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Nut44x4
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 -
« Reply #456 on: June 03, 2010, 03:29:17 PM »

GRACE:  If an angel descended from heaven and told them sitting on a stack of bibles that they were an eyewitness to the murder of Natalee Holloway, Aruban prosecutors are not going to do anything. It doesn`t matter.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/02/ng.01.html

I know-I think she's been under a lot of stress since that lawsuit thingy.

[klaasend]

I thought she was found with her pants and shoes off?

[JE]

Sorry if this is a repeat:

Statement Joran van der Sloot

Below is the complete translation of the ten pages of explanation of Joran van der Sloot.

Statement by Peter Andreaus Joran van der Sloot (22)



Original link:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6944033/__Verklaring_Joran_van_der_Sloot__.html?cid=short

(I can't get the google translation link to work)

Thanks Cece!

Dutch to English translation (so it was Spanish to Dutch then google Dutch to English):

Statement Joran van der Sloot
NO - The following is the complete translation of the ten pages of the declaration of Joran van der Sloot.



26. Is it true that you then have attracted her clothes and if so, why?

- I really do not know, but I think so. It was after her to have slain. It was her pants and her shoes, but nothing else. I do not know why I did it.

Here is something weird that got lost in translation

26. Is it true that you put on her clothes? and if so why?

A: I dont know but i think so. It happened after killing her. It was her pants and her shoes but nothing else i dont know why i did it.

Thanks-I wondered what that meant.

In the translation they make it sound he put on her pants and shoes? I doubt his feet would fit inside her shoes so maybe the "Put on her clothes" should read took off her clothes?

[Bearlyhere]

Per Steph Watts:

"Dave Holloway will be in Aruba later today."

http://stephww.wordpress.com/

God bless Dave!  He has dragged himself into the bowels of hell more times for his daughter.  Everyone should have a Dad that loves them that much.

[klaasend]

Could someone tell me again where to find the complete confession in English? TIA

Right here but it's translated from Spanish to Dutch then from Dutch to English so some things will be messed up in the translation I'm sure:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8103.msg1158830#msg1158830

[klaasend]

JE that's an example of the translations messing things up.  I believe what he is saying is that he took her pants and shoes off AFTER he killed her and he really didn't know why.

[Tamikosmom]

Could someone tell me again where to find the complete confession in English? TIA

JORAN'S STATEMENT/CONFESSION

Klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -
« Reply #1113 on: June 13, 2010, 09:57:19 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8103.1100

[SunnyinTX]

http://translate.google.nl/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraaf.nl%2Fbinnenland%2F6944033%2F__Verklaring_Joran_van_der_Sloot__.html&sl=nl&tl=en&lr=lang_nl

I think this link works for the English translation of his confession.

thanks cece.....too tired to read it tonight.....bookmarked it for tomorrow

[Kermit]

Overnight America: Interview w/ Jan Brennan
JOURNALIST JAN BRENNAN TALKS ABOUT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VAN DER SLOOT FAMILY AND JORAN'S MURDER CONFESSION

http://www.overnightamerica.com/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=4718025

Wher is that nice picture we have of her?

POOP-SUIT ALERT

[Kermit]

Overnight America: Interview w/ Jan Brennan
JOURNALIST JAN BRENNAN TALKS ABOUT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VAN DER SLOOT FAMILY AND JORAN'S MURDER CONFESSION

http://www.overnightamerica.com/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=4718025

Wher is that nice picture we have of her?

REMINDER

POOP-SUIT ALERT


POOP-SUIT ALERT

[carpe noctem]

Sorry if this is a repeat:

Statement Joran van der Sloot

Below is the complete translation of the ten pages of explanation of Joran van der Sloot.

Statement by Peter Andreaus Joran van der Sloot (22)



Original link:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6944033/__Verklaring_Joran_van_der_Sloot__.html?cid=short

(I can't get the google translation link to work)

Thanks Cece!

Dutch to English translation (so it was Spanish to Dutch then google Dutch to English):

Statement Joran van der Sloot
NO - The following is the complete translation of the ten pages of the declaration of Joran van der Sloot.



26. Is it true that you then have attracted her clothes and if so, why?

- I really do not know, but I think so. It was after her to have slain. It was her pants and her shoes, but nothing else. I do not know why I did it.

Here is something weird that got lost in translation

26. Is it true that you put on her clothes? and if so why?

A: I dont know but i think so. It happened after killing her. It was her pants and her shoes but nothing else i dont know why i did it.

Thanks-I wondered what that meant.

In the translation they make it sound he put on her pants and shoes? I doubt his feet would fit inside her shoes so maybe the "Put on her clothes" should read took off her clothes?

He`d look like Jethro Bodine from the Hillbillies in her pants.

Is it scientifically possible for him to get dem big feets stuffed down in her shoes?

Man, he`s weird.

[San]

Overnight America: Interview w/ Jan Brennan
JOURNALIST JAN BRENNAN TALKS ABOUT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VAN DER SLOOT FAMILY AND JORAN'S MURDER CONFESSION

http://www.overnightamerica.com/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=4718025

Wher is that nice picture we have of her?

POOP-SUIT ALERT

lolol

[JE]

JE that's an example of the translations messing things up.  I believe what he is saying is that he took her pants and shoes off AFTER he killed her and he really didn't know why.

He mostly knows why but chooses to say he cant remember why. When asked question nr. 32 he has no problem remembering the name of one of the cabbies: Carlos Alberto Euribe Pretil

[carpe noctem]

Are we sure they didn`t just mean some of her clothes were found in his bag?

Even with Joran - I can`t see him wearing her clothes. lol