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Title: Susan Powell, 28 yo, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, UT 12/10/09 - 8/17/10#1
Post by: klaasend on December 10, 2009, 06:13:23 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579961,00.html?test=latestnews

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Stockbroker Mom Disappears in Utah, Husband Questioned

Thursday , December 10, 2009

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Family members and police have stepped up their search for a Utah mother of two who vanished over the weekend.

Stockbroker Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since Sunday. Her husband Josh says he last saw her getting ready for bed about 12:30 a.m. and left her sleeping while he went camping with the couple's two young sons.

Powell's purse, cell phone and car were found at their home in the Salt Lake City suburb of West Valley City.

Initially, the entire family was unaccounted for — until the missing woman's husband turned up with the boys and without Powell, her father Chuck Cox said in an interview with Fox News.

Her parents say Powell, who works as a stockbroker for Wells Fargo Financial, wouldn't have left her family of her own accord.

West Valley police are asking for the public's help in the case. They won't reveal what Powell's husband has told investigators in interviews.

Cox said his daughter was looking forward to the holidays when he spoke to her last Thursday and "everything was fine."

When his son-in-law called him about her disappearance on Sunday, Cox said he sounded "a little upset."

"He informed me that she was missing and he didn’t have any idea where she was," he told Fox. "His voice cracked, like he was choking back tears or something."

Cox says he doesn't believe the couple had any martial problems.

But he said some of his son-in-law's story "didn't sound normal" to him — like his explanation of taking the camping trip with the boys while Powell stayed home in bed.

"I have no evidence that he was involved in anything," Cox said. "Police have looked in the house. Currently, they have no official persons of interest or suspects at this time. We don't know what happened."

Powell is 5 feet 4 inches, 130 pounds, with long, brown hair and blue eyes. Anyone with information is asked to call West Valley police in Utah.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 10, 2009, 06:14:58 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8986844

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Police may have 'areas' to check in missing woman case
December 10, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Police said Thursday they may have some "areas" to check as they follow-up on the case of a missing West Valley woman.

West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan said those areas are based on statements made by Susan Powell's husband, Josh Powell. Still, McLachlan declined to elaborate on what or where the areas are.

Susan Powell,28, disappeared Sunday. Her father, Charles Cox, told KSL News Josh said he took the couple's children camping Sunday night and came home Monday to find his wife missing. Cox says his daughter's cell phone and purse were left behind.

"The thing that doesn't add up is Susan is still missing," McLachlan said. "We don't know where she's at, and there's been no contact with her family or friends."

Now Josh Powell's story may be coming under scrutiny. McLachlan said the idea of Josh taking his toddler and 4-year-old camping in very cold whether during the disappearance raises questions, but he said Josh has been cooperative with police.

Forensics teams, meanwhile, are going over what was taken from the home during a warrant search.

"We have seized several items," McLachlan said. "I'm not going to get real specific about what items, but to process forensically to see if that can shed any light on the situation."

Josh and Susan Powell and their boys

McLachlan said Susan and Josh's children have now been interviewed, although he admitted it was a difficult process.

"You have to be very cognizant that they may be tying two different situations together in one," he said.

Police are also continuing to interview Susan's family and friends, looking for any clues as to where she might be.

Meanwhile, friends of Susan distributed fliers Thursday with Susan's picture and description.

Tami Allen used to live in Susan's neighborhood and brought fliers to her work. She was spreading the word about Susan's disappearance to all her tenants at the storage facility where she works.

Allen said doing this makes her feel like she's helping in some way.

"Obviously, it breaks my hart. I think about it all day, everyday," Allen said. "I just keep wondering what happened to her, and I just want her home safe."

Susan Powell is 5 feet 4 inches tall and weighs about 130 pounds, with brown hair and blue eyes. If anyone has any information about her whereabouts, you're asked to call the West Valley Police Department at 801-840-4000.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 10, 2009, 06:15:20 PM
IMO, he killed her.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: fatcatlurker on December 10, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
yup -


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: fatcatlurker on December 10, 2009, 06:56:53 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705350544/Few-details-on-missing-WV-mom-2-just-anxiety.html

West Valley police are being very tight-lipped about the case. They have asked for the public's help to find her, yet won't say where or when or how the husband and children were found or where they had been. Investigators have also declined to answer questions about whether foul play is suspected or what Josh Powell has told police during interviews, though they did say that all of the Powell family's vehicles were accounted for.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on December 10, 2009, 07:14:05 PM
I have done a lot of Back packing and camping over the years.
I cannot imagine taking a toddler out in cold weather camping. Although me and my boys have done it, it can be a miserable nose running experience where everyone spends most of there time trying to stay warm and dry and almost survival mode.. where for some boys and dads that can be fun if you know for sure you can get out of here if it gets to bad.

This fellow is cooperative but her dad had no idea in advance that his son in law was taking his grandkids camping.. that is really strange that this new mom never called her dad and mom to brag about the camping trip that she would have been excited about for her kids to go on.
She also never seems to have told anyone from what I have read in these reports..

Yet we have many many people who have gone missing like Jennifer kessee and all her things like wallet and cell phone were left alone also..


But Strange indeed unless they have a big motor home to keep the toddler warm and dry.
I do not see where it says anything about a motorhome..

We always used tents for shelter ourselves.. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 10, 2009, 07:49:55 PM
IMO, he killed her.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yep.....we've seen it time and time again.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 10, 2009, 08:57:35 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8986844


Neighbor: Husband acted oddly during conversation Wednesday night
December 10th, 2009 @ 5:58pm

WEST VALLEY CITY -- While police continue their investigation into the case of a missing West Valley woman, her neighbor is opening up about a conversation he had with her husband Wednesday night.

Susan Powell, 28, disappeared Sunday. Her father, Charles Cox, told KSL News her husband, Josh Powell, said he took the couple's children camping Sunday night and came home Monday to find his wife missing.

Neighbor talks about conversation with Josh Powell

The couples' neighbor Tim Peterson told KSL News that Josh asked him for a ride Wednesday night to pick up his van, which police had searched. He said Josh's behavior was odd and he didn't know what to make of it.

She's a friend of ours, and this is tearing us up," Peterson said.

Like many others, Peterson has a lot of questions about Susan's disappearance, and he didn't get any answers from Josh.

"He'd only had like six hours of sleep in two days, and so he was just kind of in a haze. He just really wasn't himself," Peterson said. "Anytime we mentioned Susan, he didn't, he wouldn't respond. He wouldn't talk about her."

But Peterson said Josh did talk about having to buy new clothes and a new quilt. He said Josh also told him he last saw Susan just after midnight Monday, when he left with his two young boys to go camping.

Peterson said Josh told him they went camping to test a new generator and make s'mores.

"I said, ‘That's kind of odd, isn't it?' And he says, ‘We do things like that all the time.' He says, ‘I just get them up, they use the bathroom, and load them in the vehicle, and we go,'" Peterson said.

In August, Peterson said Susan confided in him that she and her husband were going to start marriage counseling. He said she told him Josh was very controlling.

"He's kind of in charge. He's in charge of everything: in charge of the computer, in charge of the house, in charge of the kids, in charge of her," Peterson said.

He said Susan also told him if things didn't get better by spring, she'd leave her husband. He hopes that had nothing to do with her disappearance.

"We love the Powells. We are praying for Susan," Peterson said.

Peterson would not tell KSL News where Josh went camping.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 10, 2009, 09:19:02 PM
Click on the picture below to see an interview with the lying POS husband.  He makes me sick:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_1FBC44BE_Video_HusbandofMissingWoma.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=1FBC44BE_Video_HusbandofMissingWoma.flv)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 10, 2009, 09:47:38 PM
OMG..... WTF was that??? This guy will be in jail before the weekend ;)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 10, 2009, 10:03:37 PM
OMG..... WTF was that??? This guy will be in jail before the weekend ;)

And my bet is he's going to start crying and confess

San disagrees, she doesn't think he's man enough to confess.  I think he's such a GIRL he will.  He is a waste of air. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2009, 12:43:07 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8986844


Friends and neighbors hold vigil for missing West Valley woman
December 10th, 2009 @ 10:15pm

WEST VALLEY CITY -- While police continued their investigation into the case of a missing West Valley woman, her friends and neighbors held a candlelight vigil Thursday night to bring awareness to her story and hopefully help bring her home.

Candlelight vigil held for Susan Powell

About 50 people gathered at West View Park in West Valley in honor of their friend, 28-year-old Susan Powell.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 11, 2009, 07:16:42 AM
(http://www.ksl.com/emedia/slc/1636/163687/16368725.jpg?filter=ksl/img200)
Susan Powell's husband, Josh, attended Thursday night's vigil but would not talk to KSL News


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 11, 2009, 08:26:44 AM
snipped.....

"Her home was the last place she was seen, so we served the [search] warrant to see if there was anything there that would shed any light," he said. "[Detectives] will be going over the items [seized in the search] today and should know soon what, if anything, they may have."
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:1090230320&start=5


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2009, 10:08:18 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705350711/West-Valley-police-neighbors-call-Susan-Powells-disappearance-suspicious.html

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West Valley police, neighbors call Susan Powell's disappearance 'suspicious'

Police search missing mom's home for clues

By Emiley Morgan

Deseret News
Published: Thursday, Dec. 10, 2009 11:40 p.m. MST

WEST VALLEY CITY — There are many theories about what could have happened to Susan Powell.

There are also assumptions about what already has happened.

But almost everyone who knows her agrees that Powell would never have left her two young boys, one reason why police are now calling the 28-year-old's disappearance "suspicious."

Josh Powell told the Deseret News he last saw his wife about midnight Sunday at their home. He said that was when he decided to leave the house and take his two sons, ages 2 and 4, camping "down south."

He said he didn't realize his wife was missing until a friend called him Monday and told him that police officers were looking for him and his family.

Since then, no one has seen Susan Powell. She failed to go to work Monday, and no one has an explanation about where she could be — not police, friends or family.

"It's a still a missing-person case, but the circumstances surrounding it are very suspicious," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan said Thursday. "Nobody can tell us where she is at, and she has not contacted family or friends that we know of."

Police obtained a search warrant for the Powell home, 6254 Sarah Circle, late Wednesday and have collected various pieces of furniture to submit for forensic tests. While he wouldn't go into specifics, McLachlan said Susan Powell "left items at the house that you would normally associate if you were going on a trip or going somewhere."

Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, said his daughter's purse and cell phone were still at the home. McLachlan said police focused their efforts on the home because it was the last place she was seen. An endangered-person alert was issued Monday, but police have heard nothing as a result of the alert.

"There's a lot of different scenarios you can put with the situation," McLachlan said. "Because we don't have enough information on any one of those possibilities, you have to work all of them. It keeps us busy."

About 100 of Susan Powell's friends, neighbors, co-workers and family members — including, for a short time, her husband and two sons — gathered in the cold at a candlelight vigil Thursday night at West View Park. In addition to holding lighted candles, they prayed for Susan Powell's safe return, shared stories about her, passed out missing-person fliers and sang "Silent Night."

"She's really special to us," said Crystal Peterson, who attends the same LDS Church ward as the Powells. "We just want to see her home. We want her home. That's all we want."

Investigators have interviewed Josh Powell and were working Thursday to verify what he had told them.

Josh Powell told the News that when he returned home Monday night, he discovered a front window had been broken out. The window had been broken by police, who worried the family might have been poisoned by carbon monoxide. Josh Powell said he didn't see "any sign of anything" out of the ordinary inside.

When asked what was going through his mind on the fourth day since his wife's disappearance, he said it was "hard to concentrate," before going into detail about how he had placed cardboard in the broken window.

Close friend and neighbor Kiirsi Hellewell, who has become the self-appointed advocate for Susan Powell because the woman's family lives in Washington, has pieced together a detailed timeline of events. She said she walked home from church with Susan Powell and her sons around noon Sunday. Another friend from her LDS ward ate dinner with the Powells Sunday evening. That friend told Hellewell she left the home shortly after Susan Powell said she wasn't feeling well and Josh Powell announced that he was going to take the boys sledding and then go eat.

Josh Powell said he last saw his wife around 12:30 a.m. Monday as she headed to bed.

Josh Powell described his wife as a "really good mother" who enjoys singing in her church choir and doing art projects with her boys.

"She really takes care of us," he said. "She's really committed to the family, and I guess she puts up with me, too, and does a good job of it."

Neighbor Stephanie Olson said as soon as she heard her neighbor was missing, she had a bad feeling.

"I know she would never leave her kids," Olson said. "If anything, she would have left with the children while Josh was at work. She'd take her kids. I believe that 100 percent. She was really good with her children."

Olson and other neighbors said about a year ago, Susan Powell began talking openly in church about obtaining a divorce. Olson said Susan Powell was very open about her home life and the issues in her marriage.

"She wasn't shy," Olson said. "She talked about divorcing and trying to save money to leave him."

Hellewell started a Facebook group with updates about her friend. At this point, she said she has to keep busy, because if she stops to think about what may have happened to her friend, she "can't handle it."

She described Susan Powell as "very outgoing, very friendly, an instant friend to everyone." In addition to being funny, pretty, talented, healthy and athletic, Susan Powell is "fearless," Hellewell said.

"If she had any way to contact somebody, she would," Hellewell added. "She's not the kind to go and hide. She's not scared of anything."

In the meantime, as he tries to "get things normal," Josh Powell said he wants his wife to know that he and the two boys "love her and miss her."

"I want to try and do the best I can to get the word out, even if it's hard," he said. "If anyone knows where she's at, have them call police."

A candlelight vigil is scheduled for 9 p.m. tonight at West View Park, 6050 W. 4100 South.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: islandmonkey on December 11, 2009, 10:19:34 AM
IMO, he killed her.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree, his behavoir is way off and even more coincidental is that Lori Hacking worked for Wells Fargo in St Lake City when she disappeared, she was a sales assistant which is a back up to a stockbroker........I wonder if it's the same one as usually the financial trading offices are consolidated versus the banking locations etc due to trading desk etc.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2009, 06:12:14 PM
IMO, he killed her.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree, his behavoir is way off and even more coincidental is that Lori Hacking worked for Wells Fargo in St Lake City when she disappeared, she was a sales assistant which is a back up to a stockbroker........I wonder if it's the same one as usually the financial trading offices are consolidated versus the banking locations etc due to trading desk etc.

IM, I had forgotten that Lori Hacking also worked for Wells Fargo. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2009, 06:13:44 PM

BLOCKED WEBSITE

  


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2009, 08:19:26 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Police-say-husband-Person-of-Interest/Betj-Tpn5kOnRDFMiGeogQ.cspx

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Police say husband "Person of Interest"
   Reported by: Marcos Ortiz
Last Update: 3:08 pm

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) – Police say they found no evidence at a campsite as they continue to search for a missing mom.

Susan Powell disappeared from her home Sunday night and hasn’t been seen.

Police now say that her husband Josh Powell is a person of interest and plan to interview him for a third time Friday.

Investigators focused their search Thursday at the Pony Express Trail near Simpson Springs in Tooele County.

“We were looking for evidence that someone went in there and went camping, that’s what we were looking for," said WVC police Captain Tom McLachlan.

Josh Powell told police that he took his two boys, ages 4 and 2, camping late Sunday night. He told police that his wife was sleeping at the home when they left.

According to friends, Powell claims to have left around 12:30 a.m. Monday morning.

Captain McLachlan said they didn’t find any evidence of anyone being at the campsite.

“With the snowstorm everything was pretty well covered over,” he said. “You can’t tell any tire tracks or anything else.”

Captain McLachlan said investigators took cadaver dogs but they could not pick up any scent.

He said that Powell is not considered a suspect at this stage of the investigation.

“We do hope and intent to re-interview him again,” Cpt. McLachlan said.

The police captain did confirm that a Powell’s purse, credit cards and cell phone were among the items taken when they searched the home earlier this week.

And when asked if those are common items left behind by someone who decided to leave he answered this way: “My answer to that is one would usually think those items would be taken but in and of itself does not show a crime,” he said. “This is still a missing person case and our first concern is Susan and locating her, making sure she’s all right.

When asked if she was murdered he said “Like I said, there are many possible solutions to this situation and that’s as far as I’m going to go.”

Meanwhile Powell’s father who lives in a suburb of Seattle spoke with the local ABC affiliate KOMO 4. Chuck Cox offered more details about what police found inside the home.

“They found a wet spot on the floor being dried by two fans,” Cox said. He spoke with Josh Powell Tuesday and said that he offered little insight as to where Susan was.

“I don’t think she’s okay,” he said. “No one has heard from her. Josh and the kids are back and she would not leave her children and she would not leave her purse.

Cox told friends of Susan that he and his wife are headed to Salt Lake City Friday.

A facebook www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=198478842187&topic=15637#/group.php?v=wall&gid=198478842187 comprised of friends of Susan Powell indicated that a massive search by volunteers is gaining momentum.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: fatcatlurker on December 11, 2009, 09:01:51 PM
I wonder what the wet spot on the floor of the house is?  Two fans?  The floor must of been soaked.  I think it's just a matter of time. 

No way this woman just walked out without her children.  She seems like she was letting those around her know that she had concerns and fear about her situation and she wanted them to be on the look out for her.

I can never understand why some people just can't let it go and get a divorce but I guess the problem (psychopathic illness) was there all along.  Idk but it's a damn waste. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2009, 10:10:20 PM
I wonder what the wet spot on the floor of the house is?  Two fans?  The floor must of been soaked.  I think it's just a matter of time. 

No way this woman just walked out without her children.  She seems like she was letting those around her know that she had concerns and fear about her situation and she wanted them to be on the look out for her.

I can never understand why some people just can't let it go and get a divorce but I guess the problem (psychopathic illness) was there all along.  Idk but it's a damn waste. 

Maybe he cleaned up blood?  I agree, a matter of time. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2009, 12:41:35 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8997206

Father hopes for safe return of daughter, knows time is running out
December 11, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Five days after a West Valley City woman disappeared, her father has now come to Utah. He's pleading for the safe return of his daughter: 28-year-old Susan Powell.

Charles Cox is frustrated and heartbroken over Susan's disappearance. He flew in to Salt Lake City Friday night from his home in Washington to meet with police and all of Susan's friends who are praying for her safe return.

"It's tough. You don't know," Cox says. "They're grown, married; they're on their own, but it's still your daughter."

He says he's on an emotional rollercoaster. At first he was told police were searching for his daughter and her entire family. But on Tuesday, her husband, Josh Powell, reappeared with the couple's two children. Susan, however, is still missing.

"It's almost five days now, and it's cold. So if she's outside, her time is either running out or has," Cox says.

Josh told police Susan went to bed Sunday night, and he took their two young boys -- ages 1 and 4 -- camping in Utah's West Desert along the Pony Express trail, in an area called Simpson Springs.

West Valley officers say they scoured the area and found no trace of Josh's campsite, but doesn't mean he wasn't.

"What we were doing yesterday was attempting to verify where he told us he went camping, to make sure what he is saying to us is accurate," says Capt. Tom McLachlan, with the West Valley City Police Department. "Unfortunately there has been a snow storm out there between then and now, and so any physical trace has been covered by snow, and we have not been able to locate anything."

McLachlan says the area where Josh claims he camped the night Susan disappeared is a very remote, very desolate location. He says police did use dogs to search the area, but said there was no sign of Susan.

At a candlelight vigil friends organized for Susan Thursday night, Josh refused to answer questions about his wife. Police say he has given them little information about Susan's disappearance.

The couple has only one vehicle, which Josh says he took. Susan left her cell phone and purse at home.

"Is he a suspect? No. He's not a suspect," McLachlan says. "Is he a person of interest? We have many people we are interested in. We do hope to and intend to re-interview him again."

In addition to another police interview, police told KSL News they also have an interest in looking at interviews Josh did with several media outlets on Thursday.

In addition, police are still in the process of interviewing Susan's family, friends and neighbors. Detectives say those interviews with neighbors have yielded talk of arguments between Josh and Susan. Still, they said police have never responded to the home on domestic violence calls.

Meanwhile, Susan's father is trying not to believe his son-in-law harmed his daughter. But with every day that passes, his suspicions and fears grow.

"I can't give up hope," he says.

Cox says Josh and Susan have been married for eight years, and while they've had their ups and downs, he says he thought things were going well between them. He says he hasn't been able to speak in detail with Josh about Susan or his camping trip.

Cox also wants to thank everyone who has helped search for Susan.

If you have any information about Susan Powell, you're asked to contact the West Valley City Police Department at 801-840-4000.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2009, 12:54:15 AM
http://www.joshpowellrealtor.com/about/AboutJoshPowell.aspx



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on December 12, 2009, 02:54:07 AM
link to the miles
http://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-is-it-between.htm
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map of grounds
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ut/salt_lake_fo/recreation/camping.Par.17284.File.dat/Simpson%20Springs%20RMA%20Map.pdf
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Open: Year-round.

Cost:  $5.00 per campsite, per night.  Limit 2 vehicles per site.

Permits: Required for camping and day use. No reservations; sites available on first come/first serve basis.
A Special Recreation Permit (SRP) is required for camping outside of the developed campground.

no one knew he was there? who did he pay?

http://www.blm.gov/ut/st/en/fo/salt_lake/recreation/camping/simspson_springs.html
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McLachlan says the area where Josh claims he camped the night Susan disappeared is a very remote,
very desolate location. He says police did use dogs to search the area, but said there was no sign of Susan.

look at the camp he went to, in the middle of no where, on a sunday night, and the route there








Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 12, 2009, 09:54:50 AM
the husband did it imo...his story of going out to make smores in the middle of the night with 2 young children makes no sense...what a dumb alibi if you ask me...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2009, 01:03:55 PM
the husband did it imo...his story of going out to make smores in the middle of the night with 2 young children makes no sense...what a dumb alibi if you ask me...
I had not heard of this case until this morning on the news. I started reading the thread and right away it looked like the husband did something to her. Who in the world gets two little kids up in the middle of the night to go camping to test a generator and make smores  ::MonkeyEek:: That is the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2009, 01:10:26 PM
And if that smores story isn't dumb enough, how many one year olds eat smores, I know that I never fed my kids smores at one  ::MonkeyEek:: This guy is really something else


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2009, 01:15:51 PM
Josh Powell told the Deseret News he returned home Monday night after the trip to Tooele County to find a front window had been broken out. He said his wife wasn't home, but he didn't notice anything odd.
McLachlan confirmed that police broke the window to enter the home, worried the Powells might have been poisoned by carbon monoxide. Officers had responded to the home after family members reported that they could not reach the Powells, and that Josh Powell and Susan Powell had both missed work Monday without calling their employers.  ::MonkeyEek::  A window broken but he didn't find anything odd, and oh yeah, my wife wasn't home, but nothing odd.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 01:17:03 PM
Police in Salt Lake City suburb calls case of missing Utah mother of 2 suspicious

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Utah police are putting more investigators into the search for a 28-year-old mother whose disappearance has been termed "highly suspicious."

Since Susan Powell was reported missing Monday, authorities have questioned her husband and searched a desert area where he said he took the couple's two young children, ages 2 and 4, camping last weekend in freezing conditions.

Josh Powell returned Monday night, after police had already received a call from relatives who had not heard from the Powell family.

"We are putting practically every detective we have on this case," West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan said Friday afternoon. "It's highly suspicious."

He said about 30 detectives hunted down leads Friday as investigators tried to verify Josh Powell's story, but couldn't because snow had covered the spot along The Pony Express Trail where he said he took the children.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hitISYixOv_DC0ABZeYzc6dg2BDAD9CHNOU80


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 12, 2009, 01:59:02 PM
also that husband might find suspect was that wife was missing but her phone and purse were still in the house... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2009, 02:30:51 PM
also that husband might find suspect was that wife was missing but her phone and purse were still in the house... ::MonkeyEek::
I'm just taken aback by this and his story  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on December 12, 2009, 04:15:12 PM
Saved pictures and vids:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on December 12, 2009, 05:09:56 PM
Welcome AmandaReckonwith  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 05:16:15 PM
 ::cartwheel::   Welcome AmandaReckonwith  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 05:18:05 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 05:20:01 PM
Search for missing mom impeded by weather

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah, Dec. 12 (UPI) -- The search for clues in the disappearance of a 28-year-old mother from West Valley City, Utah, has been hindered by snowy weather, police said.

West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan said snow hampered investigators' search of a Tooele County site where Susan Powell's husband Josh told authorities he went camping with their two sons, ages 1 and 4, the weekend of her disappearance, the Salt Lake City Deseret News reported Friday.

"We went out that way to see if we could find any physical evidence that would indicate that he had been there, to verify his statement to us," McLachlan said. "Unfortunately, the weather didn't really cooperate, and there's been a snowstorm between when he went out there and when we went out there."

Powell was last seen at her home Sunday and concerned relatives contacted police after both Powell and her husband missed work Monday.

McLachlan told the Deseret News police were treating the case as suspicious.

"The amount of information we have does not allow us to rule out any of the possible outcomes in this case," he said. "We have to work every one of those as if that's a potential outcome."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/12/12/Search-for-missing-mom-impeded-by-weather/UPI-31261260650800/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 05:21:40 PM
Missing Utah mom's family prays for her return

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah — Friends and family of a 28-year-old Utah mother who disappeared nearly a week ago are fasting and praying for her safe return as volunteers post thousands of fliers with her image on it.

Susan Powell was reported missing Monday under what police are calling suspicious circumstances. A prayer service attended by about 100 people was held for her on Saturday in West Valley City.

Authorities searched a desert area where husband Josh Powell says he took the couple's two young children, ages 2 and 4, camping last weekend in freezing conditions.

Josh Powell returned Monday night, after police had already received a call from relatives who had not heard from the Powell family.

He declined to answer questions from reporters Saturday.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CI14280


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 05:36:42 PM
Family of missing West Valley mom says speculation about husband does no good

Josh Powell stood silent in the snowy park, his eyes welling at times with tears.

It's been a week now since his wife, Susan Powell, went missing and while detectives have found no trace of the mother of two, speculation and theories have mounted among neighbors and strangers on online message boards.

Too much of that talk has been directed at Josh Powell, a family member says.

"There's a lot of speculation," Kirk Graves, Josh Powell's brother-in-law, told reporters during a brief press conference Saturday. "Unfortunately, that doesn't do Susan any good. It's destructive and damaging to what's going on."

Earlier this week, Josh Powell told the Deseret News he had not seen his wife since about midnight Sunday when he decided to take his two sons, ages 2 and 4, camping in the Simpson Springs area of Tooele County.

Powell said he returned home Monday night to find a front window broken out, but nothing else suspicious inside his West Valley City home.

Investigators said Friday they "could not determine whether he had or had not been there" because snow had covered tire tracks and a fire pit in the area.

There were no new breaks in the case Saturday. "Everything is pretty much identical to the day before," said West Valley City Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

At West View Park, where about 100 people gathered for a candlelight vigil earlier this week, Josh Powell did not answer reporters' questions Saturday.

Graves said Josh Powell has cooperated with the police investigation. "Everything they've asked of him, he has done," Graves said.

Susan Powell's disappearance has been a "major shock" to her husband and family. "The pain he feels is real," Graves said of his brother-in-law. "I could feel it" at a prayer service for Susan Powell Saturday morning.

The Powells' two young children have noticed the anxiety within the family, but family members are "doing our best to shelter them from this situation," he said.

Graves said friends and family plan to distribute some 4,500 fliers around Utah, though "there's every possibility Susan is no longer in the state," he said.

"Susan, we love you, we miss you and we just want you back," Graves said.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351139/Family-Speculation-doesnt-help.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 12, 2009, 05:38:35 PM
Most 4 year olds are able to answer simple questions. I wonder if they have asked any to the 4 year old? My great nephew will be 4 Dec. 26th. He has been able to carry on a conversation for over a year now. Ask the child some questions.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
Most 4 year olds are able to answer simple questions. I wonder if they have asked any to the 4 year old? My great nephew will be 4 Dec. 26th. He has been able to carry on a conversation for over a year now. Ask the child some questions.

I think I read where they did question him right in the beginning. 

A 4yr old should be able to explain alot unless they were actually asleep and not camping. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 12, 2009, 06:09:21 PM
Most 4 year olds are able to answer simple questions. I wonder if they have asked any to the 4 year old? My great nephew will be 4 Dec. 26th. He has been able to carry on a conversation for over a year now. Ask the child some questions.

yes..the 4 yr old would be able to possibly give some clues or info as to what really happened...jmo


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 06:13:52 PM
Most 4 year olds are able to answer simple questions. I wonder if they have asked any to the 4 year old? My great nephew will be 4 Dec. 26th. He has been able to carry on a conversation for over a year now. Ask the child some questions.

I think I read where they did question him right in the beginning. 

A 4yr old should be able to explain alot unless they were actually asleep and not camping. 

If he took them camping at midnight the kids more than likely would have fallen asleep during the drive.  I can not see them staying awake unless they were still up to begin with.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 12, 2009, 06:15:19 PM
Most 4 year olds are able to answer simple questions. I wonder if they have asked any to the 4 year old? My great nephew will be 4 Dec. 26th. He has been able to carry on a conversation for over a year now. Ask the child some questions.

I think I read where they did question him right in the beginning. 

A 4yr old should be able to explain alot unless they were actually asleep and not camping. 

If he took them camping at midnight the kids more than likely would have fallen asleep during the drive.  I can not see them staying awake unless they were still up to begin with.

agreed


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 12, 2009, 06:23:00 PM
This is good.....pay attention ;)

http://mothersarevanishing.blogspot.com/2009/12/susan-powell-familiar-scenario.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2009, 06:42:54 PM
Saved pictures and vids:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/
Thanks, and WELCOME  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2009, 06:49:06 PM
This is good.....pay attention ;)

http://mothersarevanishing.blogspot.com/2009/12/susan-powell-familiar-scenario.html
Very interesting, you would think the sledding with the boys was enough activity for the day, but I guess not, he needed to take them camping during the middle of the night to make smores  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: joesamas mama on December 12, 2009, 06:54:52 PM
This is good.....pay attention ;)

http://mothersarevanishing.blogspot.com/2009/12/susan-powell-familiar-scenario.html
Very interesting, you would think the sledding with the boys was enough activity for the day, but I guess not, he needed to take them camping during the middle of the night to make smores  ::MonkeyRoll::
Did they not have a fireplace they could use to make smores at the house? Gas stoves work well enough too. Why go all that way to make a treat for the kids in the middle of the night?

 Maybe his family will nut up and take him to a room and tell him to fess up and tell the police everything. (like that other guy that killed his wife and they found her in the dump).

JMO JSM


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 12, 2009, 06:55:54 PM
This is good.....pay attention ;)

http://mothersarevanishing.blogspot.com/2009/12/susan-powell-familiar-scenario.html
Very interesting, you would think the sledding with the boys was enough activity for the day, but I guess not, he needed to take them camping during the middle of the night to make smores  ::MonkeyRoll::
Did they not have a fireplace they could use to make smores at the house? Gas stoves work well enough too. Why go all that way to make a treat for the kids in the middle of the night?

 Maybe his family will nut up and take him to a room and tell him to fess up and tell the police everything. (like that other guy that killed his wife and they found her in the dump).

JMO JSM

right!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2009, 06:58:24 PM
This is good.....pay attention ;)

http://mothersarevanishing.blogspot.com/2009/12/susan-powell-familiar-scenario.html
Very interesting, you would think the sledding with the boys was enough activity for the day, but I guess not, he needed to take them camping during the middle of the night to make smores  ::MonkeyRoll::
Did they not have a fireplace they could use to make smores at the house? Gas stoves work well enough too. Why go all that way to make a treat for the kids in the middle of the night?

 Maybe his family will nut up and take him to a room and tell him to fess up and tell the police everything. (like that other guy that killed his wife and they found her in the dump).

JMO JSM
Especially when it was freezing out and the kids are 4 and 1, though some reports say he is 2. Mark Hacking  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: joesamas mama on December 12, 2009, 07:02:32 PM
This is good.....pay attention ;)

http://mothersarevanishing.blogspot.com/2009/12/susan-powell-familiar-scenario.html
Very interesting, you would think the sledding with the boys was enough activity for the day, but I guess not, he needed to take them camping during the middle of the night to make smores  ::MonkeyRoll::
Did they not have a fireplace they could use to make smores at the house? Gas stoves work well enough too. Why go all that way to make a treat for the kids in the middle of the night?

 Maybe his family will nut up and take him to a room and tell him to fess up and tell the police everything. (like that other guy that killed his wife and they found her in the dump).

JMO JSM
Especially when it was freezing out and the kids are 4 and 1, though some reports say he is 2. Mark Hacking  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That is him, Mark Hacking. I was really impressed that his family did the right thing and made him tell wherre she was. Maybe this Josh's family will do the same, as they are of the same faith as the Hackings. I know I would if my SIL was missing, I would get my brother in a room and grill him if he was out in the middle of the night with my nephews that were that age. I would probably kick his butt for being out at that time of night with the kids even if my SIL wasn't missing.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: My Daddy always said, nothing good happens after midnight. I truly believe that now.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2009, 08:00:53 PM
Smores can even be made in the micro wave.   And they could have even camped in the backyard, that way they could come back in the house if it was cold/rainy/miserable/whatever.  Something is mighty fishy here....JMHO


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: joesamas mama on December 12, 2009, 08:19:34 PM
Smores can even be made in the micro wave.   And they could have even camped in the backyard, that way they could come back in the house if it was cold/rainy/miserable/whatever.  Something is mighty fishy here....JMHO
Exactly Muffy and with the wet spot and the fans, something is not adding up with that dude's story. Seeing all the snow on the ground, who would go camping with little ones during the day, much less in the middle of the night.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I pray she is okay, but when I first saw this story the other day, my first thought was he killed her.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 12, 2009, 08:23:48 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9011381

(http://www.ksl.com/emedia/slc/1641/164136/16413676.jpg)

Family of missing woman's husband speaks; friends hand out posters
December 12, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Friends and family of a missing West Valley City woman held a church prayer service Saturday afternoon.

It's now been five days since 28-year-old Susan Powell was reported missing.

Powell's husband, Josh, and their 2- and 4-year-old sons were at the service. Afterwards, Josh Powell didn't want to say a word or answer a question about his missing wife, but his brother-in-law did.

"We continue to hope she will be returned to us safely," said Kirk Graves.

With Josh standing next to him, Graves thanked the West Valley City Police Department, family, friends and complete strangers for helping them. He also said all the speculation about Josh somehow being involved in his wife's disappearance is upsetting.


"I think it's pointless. I think maybe worse than pointless. I think it's destructive and damaging to what's going on," said Graves. "There has been so much speculation that we just need to put it to rest."

Some of that speculation comes from Josh's story he told to investigators. He claims he took his young sons camping in the freezing cold of the West Desert on the night Susan disappeared from their West Valley home.

Graves said he understands how some could look at that story, but says his brother-in-law is just as hurt as anyone about his wife's disappearance. "I can tell you the pain he feels is real. I could feel it," said Graves.


Meanwhile, Powell's family and friends have been going to malls and parking lots throughout the Salt Lake Valley to post and hand out missing person flyers.

"We want to get everyone to see her face and hopefully someone recognizes her. We don't know where to search, so flyers are the best way," said Tami Allen, a friend of Susan Powell's who goes to the same church ward.

"It amazes me what people are willing to do and take so much time out of their daily schedules to go and help out," said Allen. "She's an awesome lady and it's so sad and we don't know who would've done it."

As for the Powell children, the family said they're doing their best to keep them occupied and to shelter them from the situation. "Kids are very intuitive. You can see the stress," said Graves.

Investigators searched the Simpson Springs area of the West Desert Friday. Simpson Springs is a location off the Pony Express Trail where Josh Powell told police he went camping. Investigators didn't find anything, and a spokesperson with the West Valley Police Department said there are no updates.

When asked if Josh Powell had been to the scene to help police, Graves said he didn't know. Even with Powell standing next to him, Graves said there are some things his brother-in-law doesn't want to talk about.

"Josh is just here mostly to let everybody know that he's here and that he cares," said Graves. "What little detail facts I have, the police have asked us to not be open with them, to kind of keep quiet on what little we know that isn't well published. Our next step is to make sure everybody stays focused on Susan."

West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan said police don't have a description of the clothing Susan was wearing when her husband last saw her early Monday.

Susan Powell's friend, Kiirsi Hellewell, said she saw her Sunday afternoon walking home from church, which Josh Powell did not attend. JoVonna Owings said she had dinner with the couple and their children around 4 p.m. and that Susan Powell was wearing a long-sleeve black shirt and black pants.

About 30 detectives have been assigned to the case.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2009, 08:32:01 PM
I was just thinking here.  How many people would  risk  going camping in the winter time in a cold, remote area with one adult and two very young children?  What if something went wrong?  How would a lone adult deal with that?   Too risky.  Would Susan Powell have let him take her two young ones camping by himself under those circumstances ?  I know as a mom I would be like "no way, Jose"   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 12, 2009, 08:40:22 PM
comments here are good....

http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/705351139/Family-of-missing-West-Valley-mom-says-speculation-about-husband-does-no-good.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 08:45:42 PM



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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 08:49:54 PM
Police find no sign of missing West Valley City woman in camping area

Dec. 12--Five days ago, Joshua Powell says he packed up his two boys, said goodbye to his wife and left his West Valley City home for a late night camping trip.

That was the last time he or anyone else saw his wife Susan Powell.

The 28-year-old woman's disappearance has left her friends, family and even police baffled as to her whereabouts.


A search of the area Thursday where Susan Powell's husband says he went camping shortly before her disappearance turned up nothing.

Tooele County sheriff's Chief Deputy Duke North said investigators from West Valley City on Thursday searched a section of the Pony Express Trail where Joshua Powell said he camped with his 2- and 4-year-old sons.

"They came out and searched an area but didn't find anything," North said.

North was not aware whether detectives have confirmed the family had been at that campsite. No other searches in Tooele County are planned, North said.

"The information thus far doesn't justify us using our resources," North said.

West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan said fresh snow hid any evidence of whether someone had been there.

"We can't confirm he was there. We can't disprove he was there," McLachlan said.

McLachlan said Joshua Powell is cooperative and not a suspect, nor a person of interest. The couple's one vehicle was searched and returned to Josh Powell, the captain said.

"He is a person we are interested in talking to again, interviewing again, as we have interviewed many people and talked to many people," he said. "We have no plans to talk to him again today [Friday]."

Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox was expected to fly into Salt Lake City from Washington state Friday night and meet with investigators in person, said Susan Powell's best friend Kiirsi Hellewell, who spoke with Cox.

Cox and Hellewell both said that it wasn't uncommon for the Powells to leave on the spur of the moment to go somewhere. Joshua taking the kids camping late at night, though odd, didn't altogether surprise his father-in-law.

"It's not beyond the pale," Cox said. "He would do that."

But, Cox said during a phone interview Thursday night, "Parts of [Joshua's] story are hard to believe. There's parts of it that just begs: What really happened?"

Cox said he learned his daughter was missing from Joshua Powell's sister, Jennifer Graves, on Monday.

Susan Powell was last seen just after midnight Sunday before her husband and their two young children apparently went on the camping trip, Cox was told by Graves.

West Valley City police have been looking for Powell since Monday morning when Graves reported the whole family missing. Neither of the Powells showed up for work that day and the children were not dropped off at day care, McLachlan said. Police went to the home to search for the family, but found nobody there. They did find Susan Powell's phone and purse, Cox said.

Joshua Powell and the children returned home sometime around 5 p.m. Monday, Cox said. Police interviewed Josh Powell twice this week, but he hasn't been able to help police find his wife.

McLachlan said the case is still a missing person case, but it has become suspicious. He said no one can or is willing to tell them where Susan Powell is, and she has not contacted anyone.

Because the Powell home was the last place Susan Powell was seen, police executed a search warrant on the home and collected items that may hold clues to her disappearance.

Hellewell said she and her husband spoke with Joshua Powell for two hours Thursday night.

"He's not very well," she said. "He seems really lost, like he doesn't have a friend in the world."

The children are doing a bit better.

"They seem like they are ready to smile and enjoy company, but they seem very confused," Hellewell said.

She said the oldest child has been telling people how his mother makes him toast and other things like that.

Cox said he last spoke with his daughter a week ago Thursday. They spoke about Christmas and gifts he recently sent by mail. He said she didn't mention anything was wrong and it was "a very regular conversation."

Cox and Hellewell said that the Powells had financial troubles in the past, but had mostly solved their problems. Cox said that the couple were occasionally unemployed, but both were working when Susan Powell disappeared. Cox had helped his daughter and son-in-law financially in the past, he said.

According to court documents, Josh Powell filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in April 2007, listing more than $200,000 in credit card, furniture, student loan and other debts, not including the family's mortgage and car. At the time, Josh Powell listed his occupation as a Realtor for Homenet Real Estate and Susan Powell was listed as a homemaker.


Hellewell and others have started a Facebook page called "Friends and Family of Susan Powell." As of Friday evening 1,200 people were listed as friends.

One of those people, Kayla Reed, wrote on the site Friday that she had 300 fliers with Susan Powell's likeness that she planned to pass out at a Jazz game. She was hoping for donations so more could be passed out at the event, malls and in Susan Powell's neighborhood.

Cox said Thursday evening he can't imagine where his daughter could be.

"I'm sure somebody out there knows something," he said.

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/138816993


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 12, 2009, 08:51:51 PM
Susan is up till 12:30 on a Sunday night.  She needs to go to work the next day.  Joshua decides to take the kids camping at 12:30 on a sunday night so they can make smores and he needs to go to work the next day.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 12, 2009, 09:42:05 PM
I was just thinking here.  How many people would  risk  going camping in the winter time in a cold, remote area with one adult and two very young children?  What if something went wrong?  How would a lone adult deal with that?   Too risky.  Would Susan Powell have let him take her two young ones camping by himself under those circumstances ?  I know as a mom I would be like "no way, Jose"   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
I can't imagine that in a million years, now if it was summer, maybe, but still with two tiny boys. Just the smores comment did me in, what one year old eats smores? At least I wouldn't feed my child that at one. And before the camping trip they went sledding. And if I read right wasn't the place they went camping a couple hours away? This makes zero sense, and when I saw Josh on the video, I was shocked, he didn't even pretend to care  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2009, 12:07:43 AM
West Valley City family wants focus on missing mother

WEST VALLEY CITY — Josh Powell stood silent in the snowy park, his eyes welling at times with tears.

It's been a week now since his wife, Susan Powell, went missing, and while detectives have found no trace of the mother of two, speculation and theories have mounted among neighbors and strangers on online message boards.

Too much of that talk has been directed at Josh Powell, a family member says.

"There's a lot of speculation," Kirk Graves, Josh Powell's brother-in-law, told reporters during a brief press conference Saturday. "Unfortunately, that doesn't do Susan any good. It's destructive and damaging to what's going on."

Earlier last week, Josh Powell told the Deseret News he had not seen his wife since about midnight Sunday when he decided to take his two sons, ages 2 and 4, camping in the Simpson Springs area of Tooele County.


Investigators said Friday they could not determine whether he had or had not been at the campsite because snow had covered tire tracks and a fire pit in the area.

Powell said he returned home Monday night to find a front window broken out but nothing else suspicious inside his West Valley City home.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351139/Family-Speculation-doesnt-help.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: fatcatlurker on December 13, 2009, 01:08:38 AM
So if the police had to break into the house to get in we can say she either left of her own free will leaving behind everything or she was taken out of the house and the person who took her was kind enough to lock up when he left.

Now I'd like to know are the fans and wet floor a result of the police breaking the window or was this what the police found when they first entered the property?



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 13, 2009, 09:50:03 AM

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2009, 10:02:29 AM
So if the police had to break into the house to get in we can say she either left of her own free will leaving behind everything or she was taken out of the house and the person who took her was kind enough to lock up when he left.

Now I'd like to know are the fans and wet floor a result of the police breaking the window or was this what the police found when they first entered the property?


I believe the wet spot on the floor and the fans were there, not something the police did when they broke the window.    Joshua Powell handed out fliers outside Energy Solutions Arena to people headed into the Utah Jazz game Saturday evening, but wouldn't offer any comment as to what he hoped passing out the copies with two photos of his beaming wife would achieve.

"I don't know," Powell said as to why he came to distribute the flyers. "I'm not here to answer questions."   ::MonkeyEek::  This guy is a real major piece of work, can't even figure out why he is passing out flyers. He can't even pretend to care  ::MonkeyShocked::  I have two thoughts about the comments Susan's father is saying. One, the police told him to say that, or two, like you said Klaas they are in denial.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on December 13, 2009, 10:19:26 AM
Five Stages Of Grief
Denial and Isolation.
At first, we tend to deny the loss has taken place, and may withdraw from our usual social contacts. This stage may last a few moments, or longer.
Anger.
The grieving person may then be furious at the person who inflicted the hurt (even if she's dead), or at the world, for letting it happen. He may be angry with himself for letting the event take place, even if, realistically, nothing could have stopped it.
Bargaining.
Now the grieving person may make bargains with God, asking, "If I do this, will you take away the loss?"
Depression.
The person feels numb, although anger and sadness may remain underneath.
Acceptance.
This is when the anger, sadness and mourning have tapered off. The person simply accepts the reality of the loss.

http://www.memorialhospital.org/library/general/stress-THE-3.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: craftycathie on December 13, 2009, 01:06:20 PM
Here is an interesting blog post from a wife of a man named Tim.  I believe from previous posts that Tim worked with Susan at Wells Fargo. 

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: craftycathie on December 13, 2009, 01:10:03 PM
Here is an interesting blog post from a wife of a man named Tim.  I believe from previous posts that Tim worked with Susan at Wells Fargo. 

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html)

Sorry to quote myself - Found a new blog post that states that her Husband (Time) sat next to Susan at work.

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2009, 01:48:13 PM
Here is an interesting blog post from a wife of a man named Tim.  I believe from previous posts that Tim worked with Susan at Wells Fargo. 

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html)
Thank-you  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Missing Utah mom's family prays Missing Utah mom's family prays fofor her return
Post by: Fanny Mae on December 13, 2009, 04:42:05 PM

Missing Utah mom's family prays for her return


y BROCK VERGAKIS (AP) – 8 hours ago
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah — The father of a missing Utah woman is doing what he can to keep attention focused on the search for her, saying investigators' focus on her husband appeared to be misplaced.
Susan Powell, the 28-year-old mother of two small children, was reported missing Monday under what police are calling suspicious circumstances.
Since than, police have increased the number of investigators assigned to the case to about 30. They have questioned her husband, Josh Powell, and searched a desert area where he said he took the couple's children, ages 2 and 4, camping early Monday morning in freezing conditions.
West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan says police haven't been able to verify Josh Powell's story because snow had covered the spot where he said he went.
Her father, Charles Cox, flew in from Puyallup, Wash., south of Seattle, to assist in the search. He spent Saturday morning granting dozens of interviews to media outlets around the country in an effort to keep his daughter's name and picture in the news.
While Cox and Josh Powell shared a brief hug before a prayer service began, Cox said the only conversation he's had with him since his daughter was reported missing was on Tuesday.
"I'm kind of concerned that all the focus is on him at the present. I mean he's told his story — believable or not — and I don't see him as capable of harming her," Cox said. "And the more time spent on him, the less time there is looking at other possibilities."
Meanwhile, a prayer service attended by about 100 people was held for her y BROCK VERGAKIS (AP) – 8 hours ago
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah — The father of a missing Utah woman is doing what he can to keep attention focused on the search for her, saying investigators' focus on her husband appeared to be misplaced.
Susan Powell, the 28-year-old mother of two small children, was reported missing Monday under what police are calling suspicious circumstances.
Since than, police have increased the number of investigators assigned to the case to about 30. They have questioned her husband, Josh Powell, and searched a desert area where he said he took the couple's children, ages 2 and 4, camping early Monday morning in freezing conditions.
West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan says police haven't been able to verify Josh Powell's story because snow had covered the spot where he said he went.
Her father, Charles Cox, flew in from Puyallup, Wash., south of Seattle, to assist in the search. He spent Saturday morning granting dozens of interviews to media outlets around the country in an effort to keep his daughter's name and picture in the news.
While Cox and Josh Powell shared a brief hug before a prayer service began, Cox said the only conversation he's had with him since his daughter was reported missing was on Tuesday.
"I'm kind of concerned that all the focus is on him at the present. I mean he's told his story — believable or not — and I don't see him as capable of harming her," Cox said. "And the more time spent on him, the less time there is looking at other possibilities."
Meanwhile, a prayer service attended by about 100 people was held for her ay in West Valley City, and volunteers posted thousands of fliers with her image on it.
Josh Powell declined to answer questions from The Associated Press on Saturday.
"I can't say anything," he said following the prayer service.
Complicating the search for Susan Powell, McLachlan said police don't have a description of the clothing she was wearing when Josh Powell last saw her about 12:30 a.m. Monday.
Susan Powell's friend, Kiirsi Hellewell, described her as a "girly girl" who liked to get dressed up when she went out with friends and make blankets for friends at church.
She said that winter camping trip seemed out-of-character.
"They might go camping, but they would not do it in the winter, they would not do it in the middle of night and they wouldn't do it when they were expected at work the next day," she said.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2009, 05:08:05 PM
Utah mom missing for full week; clues are few


SALT LAKE CITY — Police had little to go on Sunday in the search for a Utah woman who hasn't been seen for a full week.

Twenty-eight-year-old Susan Powell was reported missing from a Salt Lake City suburb in a case that police call suspicious.

She left behind two children and a husband who says he doesn't know what happened to her.

West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan says at least eight detectives worked the case Sunday, fielding any tips or leads they can get from the family or friends.

Detectives are appealing for the public's help.

They plan to conduct another interview early this week with husband Josh Powell, who told police he left his wife and took his boys, ages 2 and 4, on a camping trip around midnight Dec. 6 in subfreezing temperatures.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CIKFA81


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
Here is an interesting blog post from a wife of a man named Tim.  I believe from previous posts that Tim worked with Susan at Wells Fargo. 

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html)

Sorry to quote myself - Found a new blog post that states that her Husband (Time) sat next to Susan at work.

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html)

I got the feeling of craziness all around them when I read the article that friends and church members were fasting until Susan was found.   Fasting is not going to help find her. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2009, 05:11:14 PM
Utah mom missing for full week; clues are few

SALT LAKE CITY Police had little to go on Sunday in the search for a Utah woman who hasn't been seen for a full week.

Twenty-eight-year-old Susan Powell was reported missing from a Salt Lake City suburb in a case that police call suspicious.

She left behind two children and a husband who says he doesn't know what happened to her.

West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan says at least eight detectives worked the case Sunday, fielding any tips or leads they can get from the family or friends.

Detectives are appealing for the public's help.

They plan to conduct another interview early this week with husband Josh Powell, who told police he left his wife and took his boys, ages 2 and 4, on a camping trip around midnight Dec. 6 in subfreezing temperatures.

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/916/story/828484.html?storylink=omni_popular


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2009, 05:12:11 PM
Where is missing Utah mom Susan Powell? (video)

http://www.examiner.com/x-28599-Crime--Media-Examiner~y2009m12d13-Where-is-missing-Utah-mom-Susan-Powell-video


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 13, 2009, 05:54:07 PM
Here is an interesting blog post from a wife of a man named Tim.  I believe from previous posts that Tim worked with Susan at Wells Fargo. 

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html)

Sorry to quote myself - Found a new blog post that states that her Husband (Time) sat next to Susan at work.

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html)

I got the feeling of craziness all around them when I read the article that friends and church members were fasting until Susan was found.   Fasting is not going to help find her. 
Fasting? You are right how in the world does that help anything?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2009, 06:07:26 PM
Utah: Friends and family of Susan Powell, 28, who disappeared Monday under what police call suspicious circumstances, fasted and prayed Saturday for her safe return as volunteers posted thousands of fliers with her image on it.

http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/creator-of-first-50-star-american-flag-dies-at-67/1058492


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: my2cents on December 13, 2009, 06:53:55 PM
I think he is guilty...maybe he will confess ....by the sound of his story he isn't too bright so he should be easy to catch...JMO


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2009, 07:54:12 PM
Dad to Utah cops: Find my daughter

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - The father of a missing Utah woman says he doesn’t think his son-in-law had it in him to harm his daughter, and wants cops to focus on finding her.

Susan Powell, 28, was reported missing last week under what police say are suspicious circumstances. Police have questioned her husband, Josh Powell, and searched a desert area where he said he took their children, ages 2 and 4, camping early last Monday morning in freezing conditions but couldn’t verify his story because snow had covered the area.

Susan Powell’s father, Charles Cox, flew in from Puyallup, Wash., to assist in the search. He and Josh Powell shared a brief hug before a prayer service began.

“I’m kind of concerned that all the focus is on him at the present. I mean he’s told his story - believable or not - and I don’t see him as capable of harming her,” Cox said. “And the more time spent on him, the less time there is looking at other possibilities.”

Josh Powell told police he last saw her about 12:30 a.m. Dec. 7.

Susan Powell’s friend, Kiirsi Hellewell, said the story seemed odd. “They might go camping, but they would not do it in the winter, they would not do it in the middle of night” she said.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/west/view/20091213dad_to_utah_cops_find_my_daughter/srvc=home&position=recent


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 13, 2009, 07:57:21 PM
Here is an interesting blog post from a wife of a man named Tim.  I believe from previous posts that Tim worked with Susan at Wells Fargo. 

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html)

Sorry to quote myself - Found a new blog post that states that her Husband (Time) sat next to Susan at work.

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html)

I got the feeling of craziness all around them when I read the article that friends and church members were fasting until Susan was found.   Fasting is not going to help find her. 
Fasting? You are right how in the world does that help anything?

I know a lady that is a prayer warrior...by that I mean she spends the whole day praying,and at times she will fast up to three days which I feel is very unsafe because she has MS...so maybe the church folks feel they should fast and pray..My guess only.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 13, 2009, 08:02:04 PM
Here is an interesting blog post from a wife of a man named Tim.  I believe from previous posts that Tim worked with Susan at Wells Fargo. 

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-on-susan-powell.html)

Sorry to quote myself - Found a new blog post that states that her Husband (Time) sat next to Susan at work.

http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html (http://owneroftheband.blogspot.com/2009/12/updates.html)

I got the feeling of craziness all around them when I read the article that friends and church members were fasting until Susan was found.   Fasting is not going to help find her. 

New post from above link:

Yeah, it is totally crazy. There are people at work who knew that she felt like she was in danger, and she took precautions in case something else happen to here. I'll post details later if it doesn't all come out in the end.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2009, 09:49:53 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9024861

Wet spot was found in missing woman's home, father says
December 14th, 2009 @ 7:15am

WEST VALLEY CITY -- The father of a missing West Valley City woman says police found a wet spot at her home last week.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since Dec. 7. According to the Deseret News, her father, Chuck Cox, says police found the wet spot on the living room floor when they first broke into Powell's house to see if the family was OK. Two fans were blowing on the spot.

Cox says he heard about it from a family member that was with police when they broke in.

West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News he could not comment on details of the investigation. Police have not said whether they think the wet spot has anything to do with Powell's disappearance. Investigators have called her disappearance suspicious.

Susan's friends and family held a church prayer service Saturday afternoon. Her husband, Josh Powell, attended with their two children. His brother-in-law, Kirk Graves, spoke to reporters and blasted speculation about Josh, who stood next to him and said nothing.

(snipped)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2009, 09:53:42 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351425/Wet-spot-found-in-Powells-home.html


Police found wet spot in Susan Powell's home

2 fans were pointed at area on floor, missing woman's father says


By Paul Koepp

Deseret News
Published: Sunday, Dec. 13, 2009 10:38 p.m. MST

WEST VALLEY CITY — Why were there two fans blowing on a wet spot on the living room floor of Susan Powell's home last Monday?

It's just one question her family would like answered in connection with the suspicious disappearance of the 28-year-old West Valley City mother of two.

Police noticed the spot when they broke into the house to see if the family had been poisoned by carbon monoxide, according to Powell's father, Chuck Cox. He said a family member who was with police at the time conveyed the information to him.

Cox said the presence of the wet spot initially gave him hope the family may have simply rushed to the hospital after an accident.

Powell's husband, Josh, showed up at the home later on Monday with his two sons and said he had taken them camping in the Simpson Springs area of Tooele County.

But there has been no word from Susan Powell, despite pleas from friends and family that have spread the news of her disappearance nationwide.

Josh Powell called Cox on Tuesday to say Susan was still missing.

"I wanted to ask him a bunch of questions, but he was on the way to the police," Cox said. "When he said she's missing, his voice kind of cracked."

Cox said he's had a "decent relationship" with his son-in-law.

"He confides in me at times, and we've worked through problems that they've had with his employment and stuff," Cox said. "There are so many questions I would ask, but I'm not really planning on talking to him."

Josh Powell's brother-in-law, Kirk Graves, who has been speaking on his behalf, said he was aware police were investigating the wet spot, but he had no comment.

Cox said he will continue spreading the word about his daughter for a few more days before returning home to Puyallup, Wash. He also has plans to meet with Elizabeth Smart's father, Ed, who has offered his support.

"I would love to do something, but what can you do?" Cox said. "All I can do is wait."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2009, 09:56:06 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Husband-of-missing-West-Valley-woman-holds-press/-JQHqU3FbkSsljloDTE3RQ.cspx


Husband of missing West Valley woman holds press conference
Reported by: Brian Carlson
Last Update: 7:45 am

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) – The search continues Monday for a missing West Valley woman. There's been a lot of speculation lately involving her husband, and over the weekend he held a press conference to set the record straight.

Josh Powell is trying to get the word out that he loves and misses his wife. Although Powell held a press conference Saturday, his brother in law, Kirk Graves, did all the talking.

Josh's wife, Susan Powell disappeared a week ago Sunday night. Her purse and cell phone left behind in the west valley home. Her husband said he left her to camping with their two sons in a Tooele campsite and hasn't seen her in over a week. Powell's brother in law said Josh is not comfortable talking to the media right now. They're still trying to figure out how to handle this situation.

"It's been difficult to know what to say, who to talk to, how soon to talk, and we want to be as open as possible and at the same time keep some sense of normalcy in the daily lives of our family and children,” said Kirk Graves.

Friends and neighbors of Susan Powell are trying to get the word out too. Over the weekend they handed out thousands of flyers, hoping someone who knows something will come forward to help them find her.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2009, 12:26:35 PM
http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=67061

Police Seek Second Interview With Missing Woman's Husband
Reported by:
Monday, Dec 14, 2009 @10:52am

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - Police in Utah want another interview with the husband of a woman whose disappearance authorities are calling suspicious.
     
Police say Susan Powell was last seen a week ago. Powell's husband told authorities he left his wife around midnight Dec. 6 and took their young sons on a camping trip in subfreezing temperatures.
     
Police say they haven't been able to verify the trip because snow had covered the site.
     
Authorities say Josh Powell told them he and the boys slept in a van and returned home Tuesday evening.
     
Susan Powell disappeared, leaving her purse and cell phone behind.
     
Damon Talbot, who helps maintain a Facebook page for Susan Powell, says some family members are fasting and praying for her safe return.

On The Web: Friends and Family of Susan Powell on Facebook


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 14, 2009, 02:26:26 PM
He doesn't feel comfy discussing it because HE knows exactly what happened to her. He does not feel comfy discussing it because he knows he'll screw up.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on December 14, 2009, 02:46:13 PM
He did NOT leave at midnight. In his first interview that we watched he clearly states he got a late start on his camping adventure.. 9-930 ..THAT would be A.M.
HE last had seen his wife around midnight when SHE went to bed.
It makes no mention of HIM going to bed.

So it would appear that something bad happened after midnight and His wife may have gone on the trip with them buried under some camp supplies in his vehicle and nicely wrapped in plastic and dead as a doornail.

Sometimes, I hate the news media.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 14, 2009, 02:49:39 PM
Husband of missing Utah woman retains attorney


By BROCK VERGAKIS and JENNIFER DOBNER (AP) – 13 minutes ago

SALT LAKE CITY — The husband of a 28-year-old woman who went missing a week ago without taking her purse or cell phone has retained an attorney.

Well-known Salt Lake City defense attorney Scott Williams says he has been retained by Josh Powell. Williams declined further comment.

Susan Powell was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up to work and her children weren't dropped off at day care.

Josh Powell told police he left his wife about 12:30 a.m. Dec. 7 to take his two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping in subfreezing conditions. He returned about 5 p.m. the same day

Police planned to interview Josh Powell a second time this week, possibly Monday.

Josh Powell has declined to answer questions from reporters.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CJ96M80


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 14, 2009, 02:55:38 PM
BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 14, 2009, 02:59:47 PM
 :2ukli:  the heat is on


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 14, 2009, 03:06:10 PM
:2ukli:  the heat is on
Yes, and now the fool has a lawyer. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 14, 2009, 03:06:20 PM
Nut - Yes it is   ::MonkeyDance:: 



Husband of missing Utah woman retains attorney
By BROCK VERGAKIS and JENNIFER DOBNER (AP) – 15 minutes ago

SALT LAKE CITY — The husband of a 28-year-old woman who went missing a week ago without taking her purse or cell phone has retained an attorney.

Well-known Salt Lake City defense attorney Scott Williams said Monday he has been retained by Josh Powell, whose wife Susan Powell was reported missing Dec. 7.

Williams often represents high-profile defendants in criminal cases. Among his recent clients are Wanda Eileen Barzee, who has pleaded guilty to federal charges in the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping, and Christopher Jeppson, one of two men charged in the 1995 murder of Utah County teenager Kiplyn Davis.

Williams declined to say when he was retained and when Powell was going to be questioned again.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CJ9D080



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 14, 2009, 03:25:38 PM
Wow, wonder how he is paying for that lawyer?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 14, 2009, 03:47:41 PM
Missing West Valley woman's husband hires attorney

WEST VALLEY CITY — The Deseret News has learned that Josh Powell, the husband of missing West Valley City woman Susan Powell, has retained a high-profile Salt Lake attorney.

Several sources have told the News that Powell has retained the services of Scott Williams. Williams most recently has served as the attorney for Wanda Barzee in both state and federal court.

Last month, Barzee pleaded guilty to federal charges of kidnapping and unlawful transportation of a minor. She and Brian David Mitchell both were accused of kidnapping Elizabeth Smart from her Federal Heights home in 2002.


West Valley police said Monday they had no new information in the Powell case, but they expected to interview Josh Powell again and ask some follow-up questions.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing for a week.

West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan said Sunday that he could not comment on details of the investigation. He said at least eight detectives worked on the case Sunday, fielding any tips or leads they could get from family or friends.

Police had said they planned to conduct another interview early this week with Josh Powell, who told police he left his wife at home and took his boys, ages 2 and 4, on a camping trip around midnight Dec. 6 in subfreezing temperatures.

Josh Powell told police he slept in a van with the boys in Utah's western desert. Police say he returned home Monday evening. They haven't been able to verify the camping trip because snow had covered the spot where he said he went.

Anyone with information about Susan Powell can call West Valley police at 801-840-4000.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351526/Sources-Josh-Powell-hires-attorney.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 14, 2009, 03:48:55 PM
He slept in the van with the boys?  He would have had to let the van run all night, or turn it off and on every hour to keep the kids warm.  This smells worse than stinky cheese.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 14, 2009, 03:59:16 PM
He slept in the van with the boys?  He would have had to let the van run all night, or turn it off and on every hour to keep the kids warm.  This smells worse than stinky cheese.

The whole camping story makes no sense.  And he forgot it was Monday and that's why he didn't call into his work?!  I highly doubt that.  I wonder what the 4 year old has told authorities.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 14, 2009, 03:59:58 PM
He slept in the van with the boys?  He would have had to let the van run all night, or turn it off and on every hour to keep the kids warm.  This smells worse than stinky cheese.
This man's story must have to rank up with one of the worst, craziest story one can come up with  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 14, 2009, 05:36:35 PM
He slept in the van with the boys?  He would have had to let the van run all night, or turn it off and on every hour to keep the kids warm.  This smells worse than stinky cheese.
This man's story must have to rank up with one of the worst, craziest story one can come up with  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I rank as #1 worse story I have ever heard....how and how much rope is LE going to give this nut before he cracks...maybe LE is waiting on him to say where her body is so they want have to search...idk .....CRAZY ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 14, 2009, 05:36:47 PM
Husband of missing Utah woman retains attorney
By BROCK VERGAKIS and JENNIFER DOBNER (AP) – 3 hours ago


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CJ96M80


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: fatcatlurker on December 14, 2009, 05:48:33 PM
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9024861&comments=true

Good blog site on the wet spot found on the floor of the home.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 14, 2009, 05:52:17 PM
In my opinion ... Josh had not anticipated arriving home with his boys after disposing of his wife's body and ... finding that authorities were already involved.  Could he have blurted out the unbelieveable  explanation for his absense without first considering his words ... words he could not take back.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: fatcatlurker on December 14, 2009, 07:38:19 PM
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9029772

last person to see susan other than husband - dinner guest.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2009, 07:39:14 PM
In my opinion ... Josh had not anticipated arriving home with his boys after disposing of his wife's body and ... finding that authorities were already involved.  Could he have blurted out the unbelieveable  explanation for his absense without first considering his words ... words he could not take back.

Janet


Excellent point Janet, he probably was surprised authorities were looking for them.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 14, 2009, 07:58:11 PM
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9029772

Friend describes seeing woman shortly before she disappeared
December 14, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Police say they will interview the husband of a missing West Valley woman again today.

A friend who had dinner with the couple last Sunday and lives in the couple's neighborhood spoke with KSL Monday. Other than Josh, she was the last person to see Susan Powell before she disappeared.

Friend talks about Sunday dinner with Powell family

JoVanna Owings spent a couple of hours with the Powells on the afternoon of Sunday, Dec. 6, which is the last day anyone saw Susan.

Owings says Susan invited her to have dinner at her home because she wanted some help with a crocheting project. She says Susan's yarn for that project was tangled and she wanted help with it.

Owings says the mood was calm and relaxed. She and Susan sat in the living room, ate dinner and talked while Josh ate in the kitchen with the couple's two boys.

She says Josh often came out to the living room to talk to both of them.

Around 5 p.m., the last thing Susan said to Owings before Owings went home was, "She said, did I mind if she went and lied down? I said I didn't have a problem with it. I'd keep working on the yarn."

She says Josh told her he was going to take the boys sledding. She didn't think it was unusual because Josh is a responsible father and would not have kept the boys out very long. She says Josh never mentioned taking the boys camping later that night.
(snipped)


Just thinking out loud but could Josh have drugged her?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 14, 2009, 07:58:12 PM
<snipped>

On Dec. 7, Josh Powell's mother went to her son's house after the couple's employers called asking why they had not shown up for work, and their day care called asking why their children were not dropped off. The doors were locked, and there were no signs of forced entry, said West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan.

Officers were called and broke a window to get into the house, fearing possible carbon monoxide poisoning. Inside, they found two fans directed at a spot on a floor that was wet, according to Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox. Cox flew to Salt Lake City from Washington state Sunday to assist in the search for his missing daughter.

Josh Powell returned to his house the afternoon of Dec. 7, less than 24 hours after he said he went camping.

Police say items belonging to Susan Powell that "one would normally take" when leaving the house were still in the residence.

Police interviewed Josh Powell the night of Dec. 7. Investigators had asked Powell to come in again this week for follow-up questions, and there was speculation he would be interviewed Monday. But by Monday afternoon, he had not shown up at the West Valley Police Department.

JoVanna Owings told KSL-TV she had dinner with the Powells the afternoon of Dec. 6 and may have been the last person to see Susan Powell, other than Josh Powell.

"There was no indication that there were any problems, nothing that would indicate that anything was any different than any other day," Owings said.

There was no mention of camping that afternoon.

Owings told KSL she spoke with Josh Powell on his cell phone the following day before he came home, but she declined to talk about what was discussed.

Court records show Josh Powell filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2007 with nearly $188,000 in unsecured debt, including a nearly $60,000 debt for student loans and $90,000 owed to a collection agency.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351526/Sources-Josh-Powell-hires-attorney.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 14, 2009, 08:03:25 PM
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9029772

Friend describes seeing woman shortly before she disappeared
December 14, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Police say they will interview the husband of a missing West Valley woman again today.

A friend who had dinner with the couple last Sunday and lives in the couple's neighborhood spoke with KSL Monday. Other than Josh, she was the last person to see Susan Powell before she disappeared.

Friend talks about Sunday dinner with Powell family

JoVanna Owings spent a couple of hours with the Powells on the afternoon of Sunday, Dec. 6, which is the last day anyone saw Susan.

Owings says Susan invited her to have dinner at her home because she wanted some help with a crocheting project. She says Susan's yarn for that project was tangled and she wanted help with it.

Owings says the mood was calm and relaxed. She and Susan sat in the living room, ate dinner and talked while Josh ate in the kitchen with the couple's two boys.

She says Josh often came out to the living room to talk to both of them.

Around 5 p.m., the last thing Susan said to Owings before Owings went home was, "She said, did I mind if she went and lied down? I said I didn't have a problem with it. I'd keep working on the yarn."

She says Josh told her he was going to take the boys sledding. She didn't think it was unusual because Josh is a responsible father and would not have kept the boys out very long. She says Josh never mentioned taking the boys camping later that night.
(snipped)


Just thinking out loud but could Josh have drugged her?

Drugging her would explain why he kept coming to the living room to talk to his wife and friend.  He wanted to see if the drugs were taking effect.  Can not see leaving a 1 and 4 year old alone in a   kitchen just to go chit chat.

Would also be a good way to tell the kids "Mommy is Sleeping" and the kids would know no different. 

Lastly if she were drugged she could have vomited.  That could be the wet spot with the fans after she vomited and he cleaned it.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 14, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9029772

Friend describes seeing woman shortly before she disappeared
December 14, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Police say they will interview the husband of a missing West Valley woman again today.

A friend who had dinner with the couple last Sunday and lives in the couple's neighborhood spoke with KSL Monday. Other than Josh, she was the last person to see Susan Powell before she disappeared.

Friend talks about Sunday dinner with Powell family

JoVanna Owings spent a couple of hours with the Powells on the afternoon of Sunday, Dec. 6, which is the last day anyone saw Susan.

Owings says Susan invited her to have dinner at her home because she wanted some help with a crocheting project. She says Susan's yarn for that project was tangled and she wanted help with it.

Owings says the mood was calm and relaxed. She and Susan sat in the living room, ate dinner and talked while Josh ate in the kitchen with the couple's two boys.

She says Josh often came out to the living room to talk to both of them.

Around 5 p.m., the last thing Susan said to Owings before Owings went home was, "She said, did I mind if she went and lied down? I said I didn't have a problem with it. I'd keep working on the yarn."

She says Josh told her he was going to take the boys sledding. She didn't think it was unusual because Josh is a responsible father and would not have kept the boys out very long. She says Josh never mentioned taking the boys camping later that night.
(snipped)


Just thinking out loud but could Josh have drugged her?

That would explain the wet spot on the carpet if he did drug her and she vomitted. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 14, 2009, 08:05:05 PM
Northern - get outta my head  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 14, 2009, 08:13:58 PM
Northern - get outta my head  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

 ::MonkeyCool::  First thing that came to mind is he picked the wrong drug and watched too much TV. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 14, 2009, 08:15:54 PM
Timeline: Missing West Valley City Woman
(video also)

SALT LAKE CITY - Police are still searching for a West Valley City woman who went missing from her home a week ago without taking her purse or cell phone. Susan Powell, 28, the mother of two young children, ages 2 and 4, was reported missing on Dec. 6. Police starting searching the Powell home on Dec. 7. Here is a timeline of the search for Susan Powell so far:

Monday, December 7: Police went to Powell home to investigate missing WVC woman and found no one.

Tuesday, December 8: Josh Powell told investigators he and his kids went camping in Utah's West Desert at the time his wife went missing. West Valley City Police, Capt. Tom Mclachalan said, "The husband returned home with the children in the family car but Susan was still missing."

Wednesday, December 9: Police spent two hours removing items from the Powell home. Police say Josh Powell is not a suspect at this time.

Thursday, December 10: Police searched the Simpson Spring Recreation Area and found no sign of Josh Powell's campsite. Josh Powell speaks briefly with reporters.

Friday, December 11: Police stil have no arrests and said Josh Powell was not a suspect but a person of interest.

Saturday, December 12: Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, traveled to Utah to help search for his daughter and spoke with FOX 13. Josh Powell's family held a press conference and Josh Powell stands silenty with them. Community members pass out fliers with pictures of Susan Powell.

Monday, December 14: Josh Powell retains attorney.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-timeline-missing-west-valley-city-woman,0,1473366.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 14, 2009, 10:34:20 PM
Susan Powell missing Utah mother may be dead

December 15: Susan Powell missing Utah mother may be dead. Utah mom has gone missing and even after a week the cops are clueless about her whereabouts.

What is worrisome is that despite days of searching sleuths have failed to make any lead in the case. Thousands of missing-person flyers have and been searched and many persons have been interviewed in an effort to trace Susan Powell. But will little success.

Kiirsi Helliwell, Powell’s friend told a network: “She’s been gone for an entire week I don't believe there can be any, very much hope left. I'm trying to stay busy and not think about it. But I don't see how there's any way she can still be alive."

She was reported missing by her relatives after she failed to return home in West Valley City last Sunday. It was on this day that the 28-year-old Powell was last seen.

Shockingly, Powell's husband, Joshua Powell, and the couple's two children, who were also believed to be missing, returned home a day after. Joshua Powell told reporters that incident took place when he had taken the children on a late-night camping trip. The weather was atrocious on that day between 10 and 25 degrees. Rain and snow lashed the region.

"Lots of times I just go camping with my boys," Powell said, adding: "Just overnight. We do s' mores and stuff."

http://www.khabrein.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30354&Itemid=57


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 15, 2009, 01:55:49 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9029772


Missing woman's husband is a no-show at 2nd police interview
December 14th, 2009 @ 9:43pm

WEST VALLEY CITY -- It's been over a week since anyone last saw a West Valley City mother of two, and police still aren't naming any suspects.

Investigators had planned to re-interview 28-year-old Susan Powell's husband, Josh Powell, Monday night. However, Josh was a no-show for that interview.
(snipped)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: linds1980 on December 15, 2009, 04:56:25 AM
Quite a few comments on this page.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351526/Missing-West-Valley-womans-husband-hires-attorney.html?linkTrack=rss-32

Missing West Valley woman's husband hires attorney
By Pat Reavy

Deseret News

Published: Monday, Dec. 14, 2009 5:35 p.m. MST

WEST VALLEY CITY — No new leads were reported Monday in the disappearance of a West Valley woman missing for more than a week. Meanwhile, her husband, who police have not labeled as a suspect, has hired a high profile Salt Lake attorney.

Josh Powell has retained the services of Scott Williams, sources told the Deseret News. Williams did not return a call Monday placed by the News to his office.

Williams has been involved in a couple of recent high profile cases, including the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping in which he represented co-defendant Wanda Barzee in both her state and federal court proceedings. Williams also represented Christopher Jeppson, one of two men charged in the 1995 murder of Kiplyn Davis.

Police continued looking Monday for Josh Powell's wife, 28-year-old Susan Powell, who has not been seen since Dec. 7.

He told police he left his house about midnight on Dec. 6 to go camping with their two sons, ages 2 and 4. He said they went to the Simpson Springs recreation area in Tooele County. Temperatures that night were well below 32 degrees.

Powell later told police he slept with his boys inside their van. Investigators searching that area over the weekend said they could neither prove nor disprove Powell was there, due to a layer of fresh snow.

On Dec. 7, Josh Powell's mother went to her son's house after the couple's employers called asking why they had not shown up for work, and their day care called asking why their children were not dropped off. The doors were locked, and there were no signs of forced entry, said West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan.

Officers were called and broke a window to get into the house, fearing possible carbon monoxide poisoning. Inside, they found two fans directed at a spot on a floor that was wet, according to Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox. Cox flew to Salt Lake City from Washington state Sunday to assist in the search for his missing daughter.

Josh Powell returned to his house the afternoon of Dec. 7, less than 24 hours after he said he went camping.

Police say items belonging to Susan Powell that "one would normally take" when leaving the house were still in the residence.

Police interviewed Josh Powell the night of Dec. 7. Investigators had asked Powell to come in again this week for follow-up questions, and there was speculation he would be interviewed Monday. But by Monday afternoon, he had not shown up at the West Valley Police Department.

JoVanna Owings told KSL-TV she had dinner with the Powells the afternoon of Dec. 6 and may have been the last person to see Susan Powell, other than Josh Powell.

"There was no indication that there were any problems, nothing that would indicate that anything was any different than any other day," Owings said.

There was no mention of camping that afternoon.

Owings told KSL she spoke with Josh Powell on his cell phone the following day before he came home, but she declined to talk about what was discussed.

Court records show Josh Powell filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2007 with nearly $188,000 in unsecured debt, including a nearly $60,000 debt for student loans and $90,000 owed to a collection agency.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 15, 2009, 11:04:50 AM
Husband of missing Utah mom isn’t talking
But father of Susan Powell still hopes husband will cooperate with police

Although he has not been named as a suspect, the husband of a missing Utah mother of two has stopped talking to police and hired a prominent criminal defense lawyer as the mystery deepens over what happened to Susan Powell.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34428565/ns/today-today_people/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 15, 2009, 11:06:45 AM
Susan Powell's Father on Son-in-Law: 'I Don't Know What to Think'
Joshua Powell, Husband of Missing Mom Susan Powell, Skipped Police Interview, Hired Lawyer (With video)

The father of a missing Utah mother who initially defended his son-in-law against suspicions that he might be involved in her disappearance said he's now not sure what to believe.

"I don't know what to think," Charles Cox told "Good Morning America" today. "This case is suspicious and, well, it's just unexplainable."

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing for more than a week. Her husband, Joshua Powell, told police he left his wife at home to take their young sons on a late-night camping trip in the woods and she was gone when they returned.

"I did ask him if he had any idea where his wife, my daughter Susan, could be. He said he didn't," Cox said of Joshua Powell. "He was sincere sounding."

MORE...


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/missing-mom-susan-powell-suspicion-grows-husband-lawyers/story?id=9336078


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 15, 2009, 11:09:51 AM

<snipped>

Neighbors also said Powell had spoken openly about seeking a divorce from her husband. One neighbor has been quoted as saying Powell was trying to save money to leave her husband.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351578/Bleak-holiday-for-Powells-boys.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 15, 2009, 11:15:18 AM
Images grabbed from the Today Show.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 15, 2009, 12:17:54 PM
BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 15, 2009, 12:20:52 PM
BLOCKED WEBSITE


Real concerned husband  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 15, 2009, 12:54:28 PM
BLOCKED WEBSITE
Real concerned husband  ::MonkeyNoNo::

You would think he would want to help find her if he had nothing to do with it regardless of how uncomfortable it makes him.  This speaks volumes to me.  I feel so bad for the two boys.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 15, 2009, 01:02:40 PM
Utah Police Say Missing Mom's Husband Hinders Investigation
Tuesday, December 15, 2009


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580262,00.html?test=latestnews


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: goodnmad on December 15, 2009, 02:30:04 PM
This is bull ... if the husband is innocent why not cooperate fully and eliminate himself as a suspect? What a POS.

It's called divorce, people. It's not pretty. But it's a hell of a lot prettier than murdering the mother of your children. Just sayin.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 15, 2009, 02:36:04 PM
This is bull ... if the husband is innocent why not cooperate fully and eliminate himself as a suspect? What a POS.

It's called divorce, people. It's not pretty. But it's a hell of a lot prettier than murdering the mother of your children. Just sayin.
Unbelievable, this guy is a good for nothing bum, imo. Thank-you for the images from the Today Show Northern. What a pity for the little boys and the family.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 15, 2009, 03:04:47 PM
This is bull ... if the husband is innocent why not cooperate fully and eliminate himself as a suspect? What a POS.

It's called divorce, people. It's not pretty. But it's a hell of a lot prettier than murdering the mother of your children. Just sayin.

So very true!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 15, 2009, 03:26:04 PM
When I considered the Sunday night timing and ... all the aspects of Josh's crazy explanation ... I was giving Josh the benefit of the doubt that whatever happened was not premeditated.  However ... when I read Susan's friends account of how she was so tired following dinner that she had to lie down ... I am not so sure.

Has anything been reported in regards to Monday daycare for the children?  Was there concern when the children were not dropped off?  What is the protocol?

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 15, 2009, 03:36:12 PM
When I considered the Sunday night timing and ... all the aspects of Josh's crazy explanation ... I was giving Josh the benefit of the doubt that whatever happened was not premeditated.  However ... when I read Susan's friends account of how she was so tired following dinner that she had to lie down ... I am not so sure.

Has anything been reported in regards to Monday daycare for the children?  Was there concern when the children were not dropped off?  What is the protocol?

Janet

There was concern about the kids not being dropped off at day care, I'm hoping someone has the article, I can't remember where I read it. There was also concern about the two adults not showing up at work also.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 15, 2009, 03:48:39 PM
When I considered the Sunday night timing and ... all the aspects of Josh's crazy explanation ... I was giving Josh the benefit of the doubt that whatever happened was not premeditated.  However ... when I read Susan's friends account of how she was so tired following dinner that she had to lie down ... I am not so sure.

Has anything been reported in regards to Monday daycare for the children?  Was there concern when the children were not dropped off?  What is the protocol?

Janet

There was concern about the kids not being dropped off at day care, I'm hoping someone has the article, I can't remember where I read it. There was also concern about the two adults not showing up at work also.

Thanks no rose colored glasses.

I was aware that Susan and Josh had jobs they should have been at on Monday but ... I had not read anything regarding daycare for the children.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 15, 2009, 03:59:48 PM
Janet - here is the article regarding the daycare....

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351526/Missing-West-Valley-womans-husband-hires-attorney.html?linkTrack=rss-32

--snipped--

On Dec. 7, Josh Powell's mother went to her son's house after the couple's employers called asking why they had not shown up for work, and their day care called asking why their children were not dropped off. The doors were locked, and there were no signs of forced entry, said West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 15, 2009, 04:03:40 PM
Police: Missing Utah mom's husband hinders search
By BROCK VERGAKIS (AP) – 24 minutes ago

SALT LAKE CITY — The husband of a missing Utah woman is hindering the investigation because he failed to show up for an interview on the advice of his lawyer, police said Tuesday. Josh Powell is not a suspect in the disappearance of Susan Powell, but his decision not to meet with detectives on Monday prevents them from moving ahead with the search for his wife, said West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan.

Despite the first public suggestion Josh Powell wasn't cooperating, photos taken of the family two days before Susan Powell's disappearance show a happy family.

Susan Powell, 28, was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up to work and her children weren't dropped off at day care.

Josh Powell told police he took his two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping around 12:30 a.m. that day, in freezing conditions, and returned in the evening.

McLachlan said police initially interviewed Josh Powell when he returned home and then again the next day. Police have also interviewed the Powells' older son.

Investigators said they haven't been able to verify the camping trip because snow had covered the site — Simpson Springs on the historic Pony Express Trail in Utah's west desert.

The Powell home was locked when police arrived and they broke in, fearing the family had suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning. They found no signs of forced entry.

Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, has said police found a wet spot in the house being dried by two fans when they entered.

McLachlan declined to comment on that but said Josh Powell's refusal to speak with police again is costing authorities valuable time in the effort to find his wife.

"We are very disappointed in that because he is not a suspect and this delays the investigation — it slows things down," McLachlan said. "His stated purpose is he wants to find Susan and that is also our stated purpose on this missing persons case, and this complicates the issue."

Josh Powell hired Scott Williams, a Salt Lake City defense attorney who often represents high-profile defendants in criminal cases. Williams did not immediately return a message left at his office Tuesday.

Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend, said she has been in contact with Josh Powell on a daily basis but hasn't asked him specific questions about Susan in an effort not to interfere with the investigation or to lose his trust as a friend.

"He doesn't do a lot of talking. He mostly looks upset and confused and is crying most of the time," Hellewell said.

She said she sat next to Josh Powell at church on Sunday and that he cried through most of the service.

It was at that same church on Dec. 5 that the last known pictures of Susan Powell were taken. The couple and their children attended a Christmas breakfast, where one picture shows a smiling Josh Powell with a camera hanging around his neck, talking with his children while his wife stands a few feet away reaching for food.

"Susan and her family were very normal and seemed all happy to be there. We actually talked to them quite a bit. Josh seemed really happy to be there and he asked me to take a picture of he and the family, and yes he has the picture," Mindy Kay Perry Guzman, who took the picture, wrote in a message to The Associated Press.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351526/Missing-West-Valley-womans-husband-hires-attorney.html?linkTrack=rss-32


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 15, 2009, 04:06:03 PM
RECAP

BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Susan Powell, 28, still missing - husband hires attorney
December 14, 1:49 PMSeattle Family ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder


It was initially thought the family - Joshua, Susan, and their two sons, ages 4 and 2 - were all missing. Police had received a call from a friend that Susan never dropped the children off at day care on Monday morning and that she didn't call work to let them know she wasn't coming in. Joshua didn't call in to his work Monday morning, either.

When police went to the house and no one answered the door, they broke in, fearing carbon monoxide poisoning. No one was home. There was no forced entry. Instead, they found two fans blowing on a wet spot in the house. They initially believed the family may have gone to the emergency room.

http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2009m12d14-BREAKING-NEWS-UPDATE-Susan-Powell-28-still-missing--husband-hires-attorney


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 15, 2009, 04:08:36 PM
Janet - here is the article regarding the daycare....

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351526/Missing-West-Valley-womans-husband-hires-attorney.html?linkTrack=rss-32

--snipped--

On Dec. 7, Josh Powell's mother went to her son's house after the couple's employers called asking why they had not shown up for work, and their day care called asking why their children were not dropped off. The doors were locked, and there were no signs of forced entry, said West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan.

Thanks Leroy.

I have been preoccupied and ... do not have a comprehension of all the details encompassing this case.

Merry Christmas

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 15, 2009, 04:27:33 PM
Janet - yes, it can be difficult keeping up with the details of these cases.  I've been following so many of these horrible stories lately that it is nearly impossible to remember all of them.

Merry Christmas to you & yours  ::ElfMonkey:: 



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 15, 2009, 05:11:09 PM
Janet - here is the article regarding the daycare....

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351526/Missing-West-Valley-womans-husband-hires-attorney.html?linkTrack=rss-32

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On Dec. 7, Josh Powell's mother went to her son's house after the couple's employers called asking why they had not shown up for work, and their day care called asking why their children were not dropped off. The doors were locked, and there were no signs of forced entry, said West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan.
Thank-you Leroy


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 15, 2009, 05:26:24 PM
It would be interesting to know what prescription drugs were in the home and if any were missing...or I hate to think antifreeze.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 15, 2009, 05:37:32 PM
It would be interesting to know what prescription drugs were in the home and if any were missing...or I hate to think antifreeze.
Oh my, I didn't even think about antifreeze, certainly would not be the first time that was done.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 15, 2009, 08:26:19 PM
BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Police say Joshua Powell is hindering search for missing wife, Susan Powell
December 15, 3:51 PM

ABC NewsSusan Powell, 28, has been missing for over a week. It’s a well-known fact that the longer she’s gone, the less chance she’ll be found alive.

Today – according to the Deseret News – her husband, Joshua Powell, declined to show up for an interview with police, based on the advice from his attorney.  "We had him scheduled. Up until the night before, everything was good to go," said West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan. "We were a bit surprised he did not (show up). We're not very happy with it. It frustrates us. It slows down the investigation."

The police are still not calling Joshua a suspect. They wanted to interview him for a third time because they wanted clarification on some previous interviews.

There is no new information about his wife’s disappearance. Police say, "We have searched the house, the area around the house, the neighborhood. The fact is, we just don't have a specific area (to search). There are no new leads. She has not been sighted anywhere to mount a search in that area.”


http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2009m12d15-BREAKING-NEWS-UPDATE-Police-say-Joshua-Powell-is-hindering-search-for-missing-wife-Susan-Powell


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 15, 2009, 09:51:16 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 15, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
thanks Klaas for that article, that about sums up that marriage pretty well  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 15, 2009, 10:57:17 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580337,00.html?test=latestnews

Attorney: Missing Utah Mom's Husband Cooperating With Authorities

Tuesday , December 15, 2009

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SALT LAKE CITY  —
The husband of a missing Utah woman has been answering questions from police on a daily basis and is not hindering an investigation into her disappearance, as police have alleged, his attorney said Tuesday.

Scott Williams told The Associated Press that he and Josh Powell met with West Valley City police on Tuesday. He said Powell is answering police questions in an effort to help find his 28-year-old wife, Susan.

Susan Powell was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up to work and her children weren't dropped off at day care.

Josh Powell told police he took his two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping around 12:30 a.m. that day and returned in the evening.

Investigators said they haven't been able to verify the camping trip because snow had covered the site — Simpson Springs on the historic Pony Express Trail in Utah's west desert.

The Powell home was locked when police arrived and they broke in, fearing the family had suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning. They found no signs of forced entry.

Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, has said police found a wet spot in the house being dried by two fans when they entered.

West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan declined to comment on that, but said earlier Tuesday that Josh Powell was costing the police valuable time because he failed to show up for an interview on Monday.

"We are very disappointed in that because he is not a suspect and this delays the investigation — it slows things down," McLachlan said early Tuesday. "His stated purpose is he wants to find Susan and that is also our stated purpose on this missing persons case, and this complicates the issue."

McLachlan said police initially interviewed Josh Powell when he returned home and then again the next day. Police have also interviewed the Powells' older son.

Williams said the Monday interview was canceled at his request.

"We have been in contact with West Valley City police multiple times daily," he said. "The Monday afternoon possible interview was canceled by me that morning because I was new and because I needed more information to provide effective consultation and advice."

Williams is a Salt Lake City defense attorney who often represents high-profile defendants in criminal cases. He declined to specify exactly when he was retained by Josh Powell.

McLachlan said late Tuesday that he wasn't aware if police had met with Josh Powell on Tuesday.

"I'm going to have to wait to the morning to get briefed until I can make any statement," he said.

Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend, said she has been in contact with Josh Powell on a daily basis but hasn't asked him specific questions about Susan in an effort not to interfere with the investigation or to lose his trust as a friend.

"He doesn't do a lot of talking. He mostly looks upset and confused and is crying most of the time," Hellewell said.

She said she sat next to Josh Powell at church on Sunday and that he cried through most of the service.

It was at that same church on Dec. 5 that the last known pictures of Susan Powell were taken. The couple and their children attended a Christmas breakfast, where one picture shows a smiling Josh Powell with a camera hanging around his neck, talking with his children while his wife stands a few feet away reaching for food.

"Susan and her family were very normal and seemed all happy to be there. We actually talked to them quite a bit. Josh seemed really happy to be there and he asked me to take a picture of he and the family, and yes he has the picture," Mindy Kay Perry Guzman, who took the picture, wrote in a message to The Associated Press.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 15, 2009, 10:58:53 PM
Yeah right, I'm going to believe the defense attorney over the investigators  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 16, 2009, 12:49:09 AM



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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 16, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Police-and-person-of-interest-staying-silent-in/xCQ--ck7KUKYW6cCgK8x5Q.cspx

Police and person of interest staying silent in case of Susan Powell


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: can on December 16, 2009, 08:18:08 AM
Yeah right, I'm going to believe the defense attorney over the investigators  ::MonkeyNoNo::

My thoughts exactly Klaas!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 16, 2009, 09:45:36 AM
I was just wondering, Susan's father had said he sent toys for the boys for Christmas. I don't know a lot about the Mormon faith, but we had neighbors that were Mormon, and they didn't celebrate Christmas with presents. Josh by all accounts is controlling, I wonder if they got into a fight about the Christmas toys? Silly maybe, but a person like that can go off pretty easily, and maybe that upset him?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 16, 2009, 10:02:01 AM


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 16, 2009, 10:26:07 AM
I was just wondering, Susan's father had said he sent toys for the boys for Christmas. I don't know a lot about the Mormon faith, but we had neighbors that were Mormon, and they didn't celebrate Christmas with presents. Josh by all accounts is controlling, I wonder if they got into a fight about the Christmas toys? Silly maybe, but a person like that can go off pretty easily, and maybe that upset him?

I read somewhere (and who knows where) that the mother was buying a few presents for the boys for Christmas. Josh looks like he could easily fly off the handle at anything.jmo


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 16, 2009, 10:33:28 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580337,00.html

Missing Utah Mom's Husband A 'Person of Interest', Police Say

Wednesday, December 16, 2009


SALT LAKE CITY  —
Joshua Powell, whose wife disappeared from their West Valley City, Utah, home more than a week ago, is considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell, said Assistant Police Chief Craig Black.

"We've been interested in what Josh has had to say all along," said Black.

Black said that detectives have met twice with Josh Powell. "He submitted to a search warrant and provided a DNA sample."

"I wouldn't characterize him (Joshua) as being cooperative."


Susan Powell was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up to work and her children weren't dropped off at day care.

Josh Powell told police he took his two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping around 12:30 a.m. that day and returned in the evening.

Investigators said they haven't been able to verify the camping trip because snow had covered the site — Simpson Springs on the historic Pony Express Trail in Utah's west desert.

The Powell home was locked when police arrived and they broke in, fearing the family had suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning. They found no signs of forced entry.

Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, has said police found a wet spot in the house being dried by two fans when they entered.

West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan declined to comment on that, but said earlier Tuesday that Josh Powell was costing the police valuable time because he failed to show up for an interview on Monday.

"We are very disappointed in that because he is not a suspect and this delays the investigation — it slows things down," McLachlan said early Tuesday. "His stated purpose is he wants to find Susan and that is also our stated purpose on this missing persons case, and this complicates the issue."

McLachlan said police initially interviewed Josh Powell when he returned home and then again the next day. Police have also interviewed the Powells' older son.

Williams said the Monday interview was canceled at his request.

"We have been in contact with West Valley City police multiple times daily," he said. "The Monday afternoon possible interview was canceled by me that morning because I was new and because I needed more information to provide effective consultation and advice."

Williams is a Salt Lake City defense attorney who often represents high-profile defendants in criminal cases. He declined to specify exactly when he was retained by Josh Powell.

McLachlan said late Tuesday that he wasn't aware if police had met with Josh Powell on Tuesday.

"I'm going to have to wait to the morning to get briefed until I can make any statement," he said.

Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend, said she has been in contact with Josh Powell on a daily basis but hasn't asked him specific questions about Susan in an effort not to interfere with the investigation or to lose his trust as a friend.

"He doesn't do a lot of talking. He mostly looks upset and confused and is crying most of the time," Hellewell said.

She said she sat next to Josh Powell at church on Sunday and that he cried through most of the service.

It was at that same church on Dec. 5 that the last known pictures of Susan Powell were taken. The couple and their children attended a Christmas breakfast, where one picture shows a smiling Josh Powell with a camera hanging around his neck, talking with his children while his wife stands a few feet away reaching for food.

"Susan and her family were very normal and seemed all happy to be there. We actually talked to them quite a bit. Josh seemed really happy to be there and he asked me to take a picture of he and the family, and yes he has the picture," Mindy Kay Perry Guzman, who took the picture, wrote in a message to The Associated Press.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 11:49:13 AM
Missing Utah Mom's Husband A 'Person of Interest', Police Say
Wednesday, December 16, 2009


SALT LAKE CITY  —  Joshua Powell, whose wife disappeared from their West Valley City, Utah, home more than a week ago, is considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell, said Assistant Police Chief Craig Black ....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580337,00.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 11:53:16 AM
Conflicting reports coming out on husband of missing West Valley woman

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – ABC 4 is hearing two different stories about what's happening in the investigation of a missing West Valley woman. Conflicting reports are coming out about whether or not Susan Powell's husband is cooperating with police.

On the one hand, police tell ABC 4 News, Josh Powell is not agreeing to any more interviews, but several reports now cite Powell's attorney which claims his client is cooperating with interview requests from police. In fact, a report from the Associated Press said Powell met with police Tuesday and has been answering their questions on a daily basis.

Tuesday ABC 4 made several calls to Powell’s attorney to confirm the reports, but our calls were not immediately returned.

This story of cooperation is not what ABC 4 is hearing from police.

Since his wife, Susan Powell, disappeared over a week ago, police said he spoke with officers several times, but later got advice from his attorney to cut off police interviews.

A prominent defense attorney, not related to the case, said it's actually smart idea.

"An attorney is smart when he or she tells his client you're not talking anymore to the police until we figure out if you're a suspect or where you are in the process," said Greg Skordas, Attorney.

So far police are suspicious of Susan Powell's disappearance, but her husband is not being named a suspect in this case. Right now ABC 4 is told he's simply one of several persons of interest.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Conflicting-reports-coming-out-on-husband-of/v421aDA_LUiQ4lyAHbHTcw.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 11:53:47 AM
OOOPS!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 11:56:12 AM
I was just wondering, Susan's father had said he sent toys for the boys for Christmas. I don't know a lot about the Mormon faith, but we had neighbors that were Mormon, and they didn't celebrate Christmas with presents. Josh by all accounts is controlling, I wonder if they got into a fight about the Christmas toys? Silly maybe, but a person like that can go off pretty easily, and maybe that upset him?

I am not sure he was as religious as Susan was.  There was one article that stated Susan took the boys to church every week and it made it sound like it was without Josh and he was not happy about it. I am wondering if he had this planned and did not want her to get close to anyone so as not to send off warning bells.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 11:56:58 AM
OOOPS!

???   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 12:00:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/Xo1uUa_eCbU&hl=en_US&fs=1&


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 12:03:54 PM


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 12:08:08 PM
Paper: DNA Sample Taken From Missing Utah Mom's Husband

SALT LAKE CITY - Police have obtained a DNA sample from the husband of a Utah woman now missing for 10 days, according to a newspaper report.

The Salt Lake Tribune reports police have obtained DNA samples from several people, including Josh Powell, and that it does not indicate he is a suspect.

Powell's attorney says his client has been answering questions on a daily basis and is not hindering the investigation into Susan's disappearance.

Attorney Scott Williams told The Associated Press that he and Josh Powell met with West Valley City police on Tuesday. He said Powell is answering police questions in an effort to help find his 28-year-old wife, Susan.

Susan Powell was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up to work and her children weren't dropped off at day care.
     
Josh Powell told police he took his two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping around 12:30 a.m. that day and returned in the evening.
     
Investigators said they haven't been able to verify the camping trip because snow had covered the site - Simpson Springs on the historic Pony Express Trail in Utah's west desert.
     
The Powell home was locked when police arrived and they broke in, fearing the family had suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning. They found no signs of forced entry.
     
Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, has said police found a wet spot in the house being dried by two fans when they entered.
     
West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan declined to comment on that, but said earlier Tuesday that Josh Powell was costing the police valuable time because he failed to show up for an interview on Monday.
     
"We are very disappointed in that because he is not a suspect and this delays the investigation - it slows things down," McLachlan said early Tuesday. "His stated purpose is he wants to find Susan and that is also our stated purpose on this missing persons case, and this complicates the issue."
     
McLachlan said police initially interviewed Josh Powell when he returned home and then again the next day. Police have also interviewed the Powells' older son.
     
Williams said the Monday interview was canceled at his request.
     
"We have been in contact with West Valley City police multiple times daily," he said. "The Monday afternoon possible interview was canceled by me that morning because I was new and because I
needed more information to provide effective consultation and advice."
     
Williams is a Salt Lake City defense attorney who often represents high-profile defendants in criminal cases. He declined to specify exactly when he was retained by Josh Powell.
     
McLachlan said late Tuesday that he wasn't aware if police had met with Josh Powell on Tuesday.
     
"I'm going to have to wait to the morning to get briefed until I can make any statement," he said.
     
Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend, said she has been in contact with Josh Powell on a daily basis but hasn't asked him specific questions about Susan in an effort not to interfere with
the investigation or to lose his trust as a friend.
     
"He doesn't do a lot of talking. He mostly looks upset and confused and is crying most of the time," Hellewell said.
     
She said she sat next to Josh Powell at church on Sunday and that he cried through most of the service.
     
It was at that same church on Dec. 5 that the last known pictures of Susan Powell were taken. The couple and their children attended a Christmas breakfast, where one picture shows a smiling
Josh Powell with a camera hanging around his neck, talking with his children while his wife stands a few feet away reaching for food.
     
"Susan and her family were very normal and seemed all happy to be there. We actually talked to them quite a bit. Josh seemed really happy to be there and he asked me to take a picture of he
and the family, and yes he has the picture," Mindy Kay Perry Guzman, who took the picture, wrote in a message to The Associated Press.


http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=67432


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 12:11:05 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::


Friends and neighbors hold vigil for missing West Valley woman
December 10th, 2009 @ 10:15pm


<snipped>

Neighbor talks about conversation with Josh Powell

Earlier in the day Thursday, the Powells' neighbor talked to KSL News about a conversation he had with Josh Powell Wednesday night.

Tim Peterson said Josh asked him for a ride to pick up his van, which police had searched. He said Josh's behavior was odd and he didn't know what to make of it.

"She's a friend of ours, and this is tearing us up," Peterson said.

Like many others, Peterson has a lot of questions about Susan's disappearance, and he didn't get any answers from Josh.

"He'd only had like six hours of sleep in two days, and so he was just kind of in a haze. He just really wasn't himself," Peterson said. "Anytime we mentioned Susan, he didn't, he wouldn't respond. He wouldn't talk about her."

But Peterson said Josh did talk about having to buy new clothes and a new quilt. He said Josh also told him he last saw Susan just after midnight Monday, when he left with his two young boys to go camping  ...

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8986844


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 12:15:26 PM

Klaas and I posted the same article at almost the exact same time.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 12:19:31 PM

Klaas and I posted the same article at almost the exact same time.

Janet

LOL ok.  I was worried about you as it took you a while to post again.  Thought you got snowed in with that west coast weather or something like that.   ::snowmanlaugh::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 12:28:53 PM

Klaas and I posted the same article at almost the exact same time.

Janet

LOL ok.  I was worried about you as it took you a while to post again.  Thought you got snowed in with that west coast weather or something like that.   ::snowmanlaugh::

 ::snowmanlaugh::

No snow since Monday evening.  Yesterday and today ... rain ... rain and ... more rain.  From a selfish point of view ... I hope the white stuff stays away until after Christmas.  Christmas activities and Christmas shopping implies I have to be behind that wheel and ... driving in the snow is not my thing.  Hubby is more confident.

Merry Christmas Northern Rose

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 12:30:06 PM
Interesting Comments

Friend of the family | 1:39 p.m. Dec. 15, 2009
The friend Susan had dinner with, came to the house...they were working on a project together, so Susan and the woman ate in the other room (Right next to the kitchen).
I really hope Josh didn't do it...I know him personally, and he IS a jerk...but I don't see him capable of Murder. But I also don't see Susan leaving her boys...That being said, Josh sure isn't trying to clear his name...I don't understand why he's not cooperating.

This is just a tale... | 5:06 p.m. Dec. 15, 2009
Man gets enraged when his wife breaks the news...late at night after the young children are in bed...that she is filing for divorce. In his rage he kills her. Needing to dispose of the body, he places places her body in the car...maybe the back of a van. Then he goes back into the home to do a little cleanup. After getting the cleanup/fans going, he quietly takes the children out to the car. The children do not even awaken as he carries them from their beds to their car seats. They drive to their destination and the body is disposed of.

When the young children wake up the next morning, their dad explains he wanted to take them camping, although the weather outside is far below freezing. What he didn't explain is that this is just a ruse so that he could dispose of their mother's body.

Upon arriving back to the residence, the husband thinks everyone will buy this tale...

Fiction? Could be...but I don't think so.

http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/705351731/Susan-Powells-husband-Josh-meets-with-West-Valley-City-police.html?pg=2


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 12:32:48 PM

Klaas and I posted the same article at almost the exact same time.

Janet

LOL ok.  I was worried about you as it took you a while to post again.  Thought you got snowed in with that west coast weather or something like that.   ::snowmanlaugh::

 ::snowmanlaugh::

No snow since Monday evening.  Yesterday and today ... rain ... rain and ... more rain.  From a selfish point of view ... I hope the white stuff stays away until after Christmas.  Christmas activities and Christmas shopping implies I have to be behind that wheel and ... driving in the snow is not my thing.  Hubby is more confident.

Merry Christmas Northern Rose

Janet


Merry Christmas and God Bless.  I have relatives in the Fraser Valley and their attitutude when it snows is "god bring it and god will take it away"  .  They don't shovel!

Sorry for the O/T


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 16, 2009, 12:36:50 PM
I was just wondering, Susan's father had said he sent toys for the boys for Christmas. I don't know a lot about the Mormon faith, but we had neighbors that were Mormon, and they didn't celebrate Christmas with presents. Josh by all accounts is controlling, I wonder if they got into a fight about the Christmas toys? Silly maybe, but a person like that can go off pretty easily, and maybe that upset him?

I am not sure he was as religious as Susan was.  There was one article that stated Susan took the boys to church every week and it made it sound like it was without Josh and he was not happy about it. I am wondering if he had this planned and did not want her to get close to anyone so as not to send off warning bells.
That could be. And thanks everyone for all the articles. That timeline was very good. That sledding story gets to me also, not that kids that age can't go sledding, but it was so dark and cold, just seems inappropriate to me to take tiny kids sledding.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 16, 2009, 12:38:00 PM



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There we go, thanks. He was letting her buy some presents for the boys.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 12:39:03 PM

Merry Christmas and God Bless.  I have relatives in the Fraser Valley and their attitutude when it snows is "god bring it and god will take it away"  .  They don't shovel!

Sorry for the O/T

My hubby does shovel and ... that worries me.  Son-in-law and/or son tell him to leave it and ... they will be over after work but ... he beats them to it every time.

Hey ... this guy was up on the ladder and walking on the roof putting up Christmas lights.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 12:47:16 PM
I was just wondering, Susan's father had said he sent toys for the boys for Christmas. I don't know a lot about the Mormon faith, but we had neighbors that were Mormon, and they didn't celebrate Christmas with presents. Josh by all accounts is controlling, I wonder if they got into a fight about the Christmas toys? Silly maybe, but a person like that can go off pretty easily, and maybe that upset him?

I am not sure he was as religious as Susan was.  There was one article that stated Susan took the boys to church every week and it made it sound like it was without Josh and he was not happy about it. I am wondering if he had this planned and did not want her to get close to anyone so as not to send off warning bells.
That could be. And thanks everyone for all the articles. That timeline was very good. That sledding story gets to me also, not that kids that age can't go sledding, but it was so dark and cold, just seems inappropriate to me to take tiny kids sledding.

The youngest in some articles says he is 1 and other he is 2.  Regardless I am betting he is still in diapers.  Sledding with a child in diapers does not last long if that diaper has been used.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 16, 2009, 01:17:36 PM
I was just wondering, Susan's father had said he sent toys for the boys for Christmas. I don't know a lot about the Mormon faith, but we had neighbors that were Mormon, and they didn't celebrate Christmas with presents. Josh by all accounts is controlling, I wonder if they got into a fight about the Christmas toys? Silly maybe, but a person like that can go off pretty easily, and maybe that upset him?

I am not sure he was as religious as Susan was.  There was one article that stated Susan took the boys to church every week and it made it sound like it was without Josh and he was not happy about it. I am wondering if he had this planned and did not want her to get close to anyone so as not to send off warning bells.
That could be. And thanks everyone for all the articles. That timeline was very good. That sledding story gets to me also, not that kids that age can't go sledding, but it was so dark and cold, just seems inappropriate to me to take tiny kids sledding.

The youngest in some articles says he is 1 and other he is 2.  Regardless I am betting he is still in diapers.  Sledding with a child in diapers does not last long if that diaper has been used.

I read the older is 4...anyway how do you manage two children on a sled?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 16, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
I would have no idea, but the four year old will certainly be able to do some major talking, kids that age don't miss a trick.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 16, 2009, 01:56:43 PM
Josh Powell Called a 'Person of Interest' in Wife's Disappearance
David Wells Senior Web Producer
10:55 AM MST, December 16, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - West Valley City police say Josh Powell is a "person of interest" in the disappearance of his 28-year-old wife, Susan Powell, and police are now treating the case as a criminal investigation. Police say they have not discovered evidence of foul play in Susan Powell's disappearance, and Josh Powell is not being called a suspect. Susan was reported missing on Dec. 7, 2009 when she failed to appear at work and her children were not dropped off at day care. Josh Powell told police he took his two sons camping that day at about 12:30 a.m. and returned in the evening.

"Do we have evidence of an actual crime has been committed? We don't," said Assistant Chief Craig Black of the West Valley City police department. " I guess that's why we're not saying we have suspects in this case. Susan is a missing person at this time. And, we're concerned for her welfare. And, like Josh has stated, we have the same interest here. We would like to find Susan and see that she's brought back to her family."

After his initial interview with police, Powell retained a high-profile attorney, Scott Williams. Powell was scheduled to meet with police on Monday, but did not attend the meeting on the advice of his attorney. Powell met with detectives on Tuesday, and answered questions described as "very basic." Detectives say they are not ruling out the possibility of foul play, but they also say Susan Powell may have left at her own will. Family members say leaving her sons behind, however, would be out of character for Susan. A court order required DNA samples to be collected from Josh Powell and other family members.

"Strong interest is probably all I probably should say," said Chief Thayle Nielsen of the West Valley City police department when asked if Josh Powell is considered a suspect in Susan's disappearance.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-josh-powell-called-a-person-of-interest-in,0,2671348.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 16, 2009, 02:07:35 PM
I agree norose...I said that several days ago.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: goodnmad on December 16, 2009, 02:15:13 PM
Interesting Comments

Friend of the family | 1:39 p.m. Dec. 15, 2009
The friend Susan had dinner with, came to the house...they were working on a project together, so Susan and the woman ate in the other room (Right next to the kitchen).
I really hope Josh didn't do it...I know him personally, and he IS a jerk...but I don't see him capable of Murder. But I also don't see Susan leaving her boys...That being said, Josh sure isn't trying to clear his name...I don't understand why he's not cooperating.

This is just a tale... | 5:06 p.m. Dec. 15, 2009
Man gets enraged when his wife breaks the news...late at night after the young children are in bed...that she is filing for divorce. In his rage he kills her. Needing to dispose of the body, he places places her body in the car...maybe the back of a van. Then he goes back into the home to do a little cleanup. After getting the cleanup/fans going, he quietly takes the children out to the car. The children do not even awaken as he carries them from their beds to their car seats. They drive to their destination and the body is disposed of.

When the young children wake up the next morning, their dad explains he wanted to take them camping, although the weather outside is far below freezing. What he didn't explain is that this is just a ruse so that he could dispose of their mother's body.

Upon arriving back to the residence, the husband thinks everyone will buy this tale...

Fiction? Could be...but I don't think so.

http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/705351731/Susan-Powells-husband-Josh-meets-with-West-Valley-City-police.html?pg=2

That scenario is what I was thinking ... she told him it was over and he snapped.

so, he is now a POI. I'd say he left enough evidence to hang himself.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 02:22:27 PM
morbeer666: has anyone else heard that Susan Powell has been found?
4 minutes ago from mobile web

http://twitter.com/morbeer666


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 02:27:03 PM


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 16, 2009, 02:38:52 PM
morbeer666: has anyone else heard that Susan Powell has been found?
4 minutes ago from mobile web

http://twitter.com/morbeer666
Oh, I wonder if that is true?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 02:58:27 PM
morbeer666: has anyone else heard that Susan Powell has been found?
4 minutes ago from mobile web

http://twitter.com/morbeer666

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MunkeyMunk on December 16, 2009, 03:02:02 PM
This is just sooo sad!!!  Those poor kids!! ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 03:03:11 PM
Police suspect foul play in missing Utah mom case
By BROCK VERGAKIS and JENNIFER DOBNER (AP) – 31 minutes ago


SALT LAKE CITY — Utah authorities say they suspect foul play may be involved in the disappearance of a 28-year-old mother.

West Valley City Asst. Police Chief Craig Black says Susan Powell's disappearance is so out of character that it's now a criminal investigation. ....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CKJAE00



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 16, 2009, 03:21:29 PM
TRANSCRIPT

On the Record w/ Greta - December 15, 2009

What Happened to Susan Powell?
Tuesday, December 15, 2009


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580241,00.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 16, 2009, 03:29:21 PM
morbeer666: has anyone else heard that Susan Powell has been found?
4 minutes ago from mobile web

http://twitter.com/morbeer666
Oh, I wonder if that is true?  ::MonkeyShocked::

First thing that caught my eye was the tweet name"morbeer666" sounds like a NOT so reliable source...jjmo ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 03:30:45 PM
INSIDE STORY: Wife's Disappearance Has Shades of Laci Peterson

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20331267,00.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 03:33:25 PM
Police Suspect Foul Play In Missing Woman's Disappearan...

SALT LAKE CITY - SALT LAKE CITY  - Police say they suspect foul play in disappearance of Utah mother reported missing Dec. 7.

Authorities also say the woman's husband Josh Powell is hindering the investigation and are now calling him a person of interest.

"I wouldn't classify him as being cooperative. Cooperative would be to work in partnership with us to find Susan. And we don't feel that that level of cooperation has been reached," said West Valley Police Asst. Chief Craig Black.

Black said Wednesday Susan Powell's disappearance is so out of character for her that police are treating the case like a criminal investigation.

MORE...

http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=67432


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: da sparkenator on December 16, 2009, 04:01:45 PM
Hi Everyone!  Long time no post!

Well, this case brought me back to the forums.  I am so certain the husband did it.  Why oh why don't people just get divorced?  Those poor children!

Thanks for assembling all of this great information on the case.  I'll keep following what you guys are finding!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU!!!!

Karen

 ::santawink::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 16, 2009, 04:06:02 PM
Hi Everyone!  Long time no post!

Well, this case brought me back to the forums.  I am so certain the husband did it.  Why oh why don't people just get divorced?  Those poor children!

Thanks for assembling all of this great information on the case.  I'll keep following what you guys are finding!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU!!!!

Karen

 ::santawink::
Good to see you, oh yes, the husband in my eyes certainly did something to Susan. Merry Christmas


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2009, 04:08:07 PM
Hi Everyone!  Long time no post!

Well, this case brought me back to the forums.  I am so certain the husband did it.  Why oh why don't people just get divorced?  Those poor children!

Thanks for assembling all of this great information on the case.  I'll keep following what you guys are finding!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU!!!!

Karen

 ::santawink::

Hi and Happy Holidays to you too, Sparks  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::  It's so good to see you!

I think the husband is up to his eyeballs in this one...JMHO.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: da sparkenator on December 16, 2009, 04:23:48 PM
 ::MonkeyDevil::  love you guys!!!!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 16, 2009, 04:52:08 PM
MEDIA RELEASE 12/16/09 11:30 AM PST from Shelby Gifford, Cox family spokesperson

The Cox family was informed this morning that Joshua Powell has been named a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. We appreciate the thorough work of the WVCPD and have not changed our position on granting interviews today as a result of this announcement.

Additionally, Susan's friends in the Salt Lake City area and in Washington are also refraining from granting media interviews today, aside from interviews that were already scheduled as of yesterday.

Please respect the privacy of the family. We will be holding a press conference tomorrow, Thursday, December 17th, in the Seattle area at a time TBA to make a statement and address your questions.

On behalf of the Cox family, we thank you for yoru patience and understanding.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 16, 2009, 05:38:11 PM
Thanks NRCG...this guy scares me, he does not look like he would make in the jailhouse hotel...hope he does not do something stupid...wish the children were not in his custody. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 16, 2009, 06:01:02 PM
Thanks NRCG...this guy scares me, he does not look like he would make in the jailhouse hotel...hope he does not do something stupid...wish the children were not in his custody. ::MonkeyNoNo::
He scares me also, and I also don't think he is as dumb as he appears  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: sunshine12 on December 16, 2009, 06:28:36 PM
wow, this guy definitely killed his wife and disposed of the body. and his story of camping and smores is just RIDICULOUS. i guess he didn't count on the daycare provider calling around and then contacting the police.  i do not feel comfortable with those kids being with him now, especially since hes a POI you would think there would be enough for CPS to step in and let the kids go with relatives...

i hope they are running heavy surveillance on him in case he tries to go back to where he put the body..im sure his lawyer has warned him about all this stuff tho.

wow. this is terrible  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 06:39:39 PM
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - It was "out of character" for a Utah mom to disappear and her husband refuses to tell investigators exactlywhere he went, so investigators on Wednesday said they are treating it as a criminal investigation. Susan Powell, 28, was reported missing Dec. 7. Her husband, Josh Powell, has not been named a suspect but authorities are highly interested in him, said West Valley City Asst. Police Chief Craig Black.

http://www.kmph.com/Global/story.asp?S=11686480


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 06:40:58 PM
Police treating missing Utah mom as criminal case
December 16, 2009 16:21 EST


SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Police in Utah say Josh Powell is showing an "unusual lack of cooperation for a husband looking for his wife."

They also say they're treating the search for Susan Powell as a criminal investigation.

The assistant police chief in West Valley says it was "out of character" for her to simply disappear -- and that's why investigators think "foul play is involved."

The woman was reported missing Dec. 7. Her husband hasn't been named as a suspect, but police say they're highly interested in him.

MORE...

http://www.weartv.com/template/inews_wire/wires.national/33d5dc6d-www.weartv.com.shtml


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 06:44:09 PM
In April 2007 Joshua Powell filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy and listed more than $200,000 in credit card, furniture, student loan, and other debts, putting a strain on the couple’s relationship.
 
Before the bankruptcy friends had suggested Susan Powell leave her husband. Friend Rachel Marini said it was because he was very, very controlling.
 
Friends said it was best to end the marriage because it was not worth going through that kind of heartache.
 
Susan did not want to give up on her marriage.
 
The Marini’s, Tim and Rachel, were close friends with the couple until Rachel had a falling out with Joshua. They kept in contact with Susan via Facebook.
 
Over the past year Susan confided in Rachel, telling her the relationship between her and Joshua was still pretty bad, but that for the first time, she had started standing up for herself.
 
Despite the fact that Joshua only went to church sporadically Susan insisted on taking the children to church weekly. Susan also bought her children a few Christmas presents though they were experiencing financial hardship. Josh didn’t like it, according to Rachel, but he let her do it.
 
Susan openly discussed her marital issues with women in her church.
 
Charles Cox, Susan’s father, said they were working on their marital problems and were doing better.
 
Joshua and Susan moved to Utah for a fresh start about five years ago, and to be closer to Joshua’s mother and two sisters.
 
Best friend Kiirsi Hallewell said there was no physical violence of any kind in Joshua and Susan’s marriage and that Susan would never walk away from her kids.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20331267,00.html

http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2009m12d16-NEWS-UPDATE-Susan--Joshua-Powell-had-financial-issues-other-marital-problems


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on December 16, 2009, 07:00:59 PM
the bold type is interesting, hubby or someone else

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705351936,00.html?pg=1

Susan Powell notebook seized by West Valley police, sources say
By Pat Reavy

Deseret News

Published: Wednesday, Dec. 16, 2009 3:39 p.m. MST
WEST VALLEY CITY — A notebook that Susan Powell kept in her desk at work, possibly containing information
about her relationship with her husband, was among the items seized by investigators last week, several
sources have told the Deseret News.

The notebook, according to one source, detailed threats allegedly made against the missing West Valley
City woman about a year ago.

Powell has been missing since Dec. 6. Police have not ruled out the possibility of foul play but also do
 not have any evidence pointing them in any one direction. Her husband, Josh Powell, meanwhile, has
remained the focus of media and public scrutiny.

Police confirmed Wednesday that they now consider Powell a "person of interest" in the case.

"We don't have any solid evidence at this time that a crime has been committed, but there is circumstantial
 evidence that foul play cannot be ruled out," West Valley Assistant Police Chief Craig Black said.

Black said Josh Powell was not the only person of interest. Black declined to discuss who the others were
 in the case.

"We're not focused in on one person at this point," he said.

Black is quick to point out, however, that a person of interest is not the same as a suspect. As an example,
he said that a neighbor who might offer important information about the case would be considered a
"person of interest." Everyone else who has been labeled as person of interest, besides Powell, however,
has been forthcoming with information, he said.

Powell was interviewed by police late Tuesday and submitted to a search warrant to collect DNA.

Despite voluntarily showing up for an interview, police say he is still not being completely forthcoming,
 refusing to answer specific detailed questions such as exactly where he was camping the night of Dec. 6
and whether his wife had any close friends with whom she might have confided.

"He's not being cooperative," said Black. "He's answering very general descriptive-type questions.
 He would not submit to questioning about specific questions we think would be helpful to finding his wife."

Josh Powell said he went camping about midnight on Dec. 6 with the couple's two children, ages 2 and 4.
They drove to an area in Tooele, where they slept in their mini-van, Powell told police. The temperature
that night was well below freezing.

The next day, Josh Powell returned to his home in the afternoon. Susan Powell was nowhere to be found.

Josh Powell talked to police that night and the following day. He was scheduled for a follow-up interview
Monday but did not show up for that meeting, based on the advice of his newly hired attorney, Scott Williams.

When Powell did meet with police Tuesday, Black said, investigators did not get many of the answers they
were hoping for and have requested to speak to him again.

"We're interested in what he has to say," Black said. "We expressed to him we would like to have a chance
to ask him more specific and detailed questions. He said he'd like to think about it. Right now, he's giving
us general ID questions, such as he was camping along the Pony Express Trail. That's 2,000 miles long. We
haven't been able to find anything."

"We'd appreciate some more detailed cooperation from him," Black said. "There's a lot of questions concerning
his camping trip, what Susan's state of mind was on Sunday (Dec. 6), has she ever talked to him privately
about leaving. Those are areas Josh could help with. We're not marriage counselors. If she wants to be away,
that's her business. We just would like to have information that helps us find her."

A friend of Susan Powell, Rachel Marini, told KSL Radio Wednesday that after the Powells moved to Utah from
Washington state, Josh Powell became very controlling.

"She had a lot of friends and family members telling her, 'Why just you don't end it?' But she was committed
to her marriage," she said. "I don't think that Josh is capable of hurting her, but I don't think she would
leave her kids. She never would have left her kids."

Black acknowledged investigators have heard accusations being made on Internet blog sites, in the media and
other second- and third-hand reports from friends and neighbors about possible marital problems between Josh
and Susan Powell. But Black said he was not aware of any specific threats that might have been made.

As of Wednesday, Black said, police would simply like to work more in a partnership with Josh Powell to find
 his wife and clear up some of the unanswered questions.

"If we all have the same interest, to find Susan, if that's the case, we'd like to work in conjunction.
 He has his own reasons for acting the way he has. As a community, we can hypothesize all we want. But if
his interest is to find Susan, we hope he would come in and help us out and answer questions that can give
 us further leads and direction," Black said.

Detectives returned to the Susan Powell's neighborhood, near 6200 West and 3900 South, Wednesday to once
again go over the area, knock on doors, and look for any possible leads in the case.

e-mail: preavy@desnews.com


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 16, 2009, 07:03:22 PM
In April 2007 Joshua Powell filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy and listed more than $200,000 in credit card, furniture, student loan, and other debts, putting a strain on the couple’s relationship.
 
Before the bankruptcy friends had suggested Susan Powell leave her husband. Friend Rachel Marini said it was because he was very, very controlling.
 
Friends said it was best to end the marriage because it was not worth going through that kind of heartache.
 
Susan did not want to give up on her marriage.
 
The Marini’s, Tim and Rachel, were close friends with the couple until Rachel had a falling out with Joshua. They kept in contact with Susan via Facebook.
 
Over the past year Susan confided in Rachel, telling her the relationship between her and Joshua was still pretty bad, but that for the first time, she had started standing up for herself.
 
Despite the fact that Joshua only went to church sporadically Susan insisted on taking the children to church weekly. Susan also bought her children a few Christmas presents though they were experiencing financial hardship. Josh didn’t like it, according to Rachel, but he let her do it.
 
Susan openly discussed her marital issues with women in her church.
 
Charles Cox, Susan’s father, said they were working on their marital problems and were doing better.
 
Joshua and Susan moved to Utah for a fresh start about five years ago, and to be closer to Joshua’s mother and two sisters.
 
Best friend Kiirsi Hallewell said there was no physical violence of any kind in Joshua and Susan’s marriage and that Susan would never walk away from her kids.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20331267,00.html

http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2009m12d16-NEWS-UPDATE-Susan--Joshua-Powell-had-financial-issues-other-marital-problems

I do not know how to "bold" but the statement of no physical violence.....verbal abuse can be as bad as physical abuse...believe me  I have lived thru both and one was as bad as the other.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 16, 2009, 11:42:02 PM
Friend says missing woman had marriage trouble

WEST VALLEY CITY -- West Valley City police are now calling Josh Powell a person of interest in his wife's disappearance. A woman who is close friends with the couple says Josh's personality seemed to change over the last few years, and she encouraged Susan to divorce him.

For more than eight years, Rachel Marini and her husband were the best of friends with Josh and Susan Powell. Rachel Marini became friends with the Powells soon after the two were married in Washington State.

However, Marini said not long after the couple moved from Washington to Utah, Josh started becoming controlling of everything Susan did. She said the control problem reached a point that others started telling Susan to get out of the relationship.

"She had a lot of friends and family members telling her, ‘Why just you don't end it?' But she was committed to her marriage," said Marini. "I didn't like the way he treated her. I didn't think that she should stand for it."

Marini said after a road trip with the Powells she became so disgusted with the way Josh treated Susan that she didn't want to have anything to do with him anymore, but she kept in contact with Susan through Facebook and e-mail.

"We would just ask her, ‘How are things going?' She would tell us things were getting better, mostly because she was demanding that he let her do stuff," said Marini.

Marini said Josh's actions toward Susan were manipulative and out of line.

"She would tell him, ‘Even though you are not going to church I'm going to take the kids to church,' or ‘Even though you say we don't have the money I'm going to buy the kids presents for Christmas.' So she just started putting her foot down and demanding stuff from him," Marini said.

Marini said she last had contact with Susan a couple of weeks ago, and there wasn't any sign of distress or additional problems. She doesn't know what to think now that Susan is missing.

"I don't think that Josh is capable of hurting her, but I don't think she would leave her kids. She never would have left her kids," Marini said.

She also said that even though Josh was controlling, in his own way, he did love her.

Marini says she and her husband have tried to reach out to Josh Powell and offer their support, but he will not return their phone calls.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9054100&autostart=y


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tina Bee on December 17, 2009, 04:10:35 AM
Police Suspect Foul Play in Disappearance of Utah Mom

SALT LAKE CITY  —  Police say they suspect foul play may be involved in the disappearance of a 28-year-old mother of two from Utah.

West Valley City Asst. Police Chief Craig Black said Wednesday Susan Powell's disappearance is so out of character for her that police are treating the case like a criminal investigation.

Joshua Powell, whose wife disappeared from their West Valley City, Utah, home more than a week ago, is considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell, said Assistant Police Chief Craig Black.

"We've been interested in what Josh has had to say all along," said Black.

Black said that detectives have met twice with Josh Powell. "He submitted to a search warrant and provided a DNA sample."

"I wouldn't characterize him (Joshua) as being cooperative."

Susan Powell was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up to work and her children weren't dropped off at day care.

Josh Powell told police he took his two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping around 12:30 a.m. that day and returned in the evening.


Investigators said they haven't been able to verify the camping trip because snow had covered the site — Simpson Springs on the historic Pony Express Trail in Utah's west desert.

The Powell home was locked when police arrived and they broke in, fearing the family had suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning. They found no signs of forced entry.

Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, has said police found a wet spot in the house being dried by two fans when they entered.

West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan declined to comment on that, but said earlier Tuesday that Josh Powell was costing the police valuable time because he failed to show up for an interview on Monday.

"We are very disappointed in that because he is not a suspect and this delays the investigation — it slows things down," McLachlan said early Tuesday. "His stated purpose is he wants to find Susan and that is also our stated purpose on this missing persons case, and this complicates the issue."


McLachlan said police initially interviewed Josh Powell when he returned home and then again the next day. Police have also interviewed the Powells' older son.

Williams said the Monday interview was canceled at his request.

"We have been in contact with West Valley City police multiple times daily," he said. "The Monday afternoon possible interview was canceled by me that morning because I was new and because I needed more information to provide effective consultation and advice."

Williams is a Salt Lake City defense attorney who often represents high-profile defendants in criminal cases. He declined to specify exactly when he was retained by Josh Powell.

McLachlan said late Tuesday that he wasn't aware if police had met with Josh Powell on Tuesday.

"I'm going to have to wait to the morning to get briefed until I can make any statement," he said.

Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend, said she has been in contact with Josh Powell on a daily basis but hasn't asked him specific questions about Susan in an effort not to interfere with the investigation or to lose his trust as a friend.

"He doesn't do a lot of talking. He mostly looks upset and confused and is crying most of the time," Hellewell said.

She said she sat next to Josh Powell at church on Sunday and that he cried through most of the service.

It was at that same church on Dec. 5 that the last known pictures of Susan Powell were taken. The couple and their children attended a Christmas breakfast, where one picture shows a smiling Josh Powell with a camera hanging around his neck, talking with his children while his wife stands a few feet away reaching for food.

"Susan and her family were very normal and seemed all happy to be there. We actually talked to them quite a bit. Josh seemed really happy to be there and he asked me to take a picture of he and the family, and yes he has the picture," Mindy Kay Perry Guzman, who took the picture, wrote in a message to The Associated Press.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580337,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r2:c0.291357:b29390584:z10


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tina Bee on December 17, 2009, 04:12:35 AM
Sad to say it, but I believe  (this is just my opinion) Susan was murdered and by her husband no less. I feel horrible for their kids. I hope her family gets answers.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tina Bee on December 17, 2009, 04:20:04 AM
I would have no idea, but the four year old will certainly be able to do some major talking, kids that age don't miss a trick.

That's so true! I have a four year old niece and she's a chatterbox. There's no turning that girl off.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

If the police interview the children the 4 year old will definitely be able to give info.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 17, 2009, 09:44:25 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Powell-family-friend-shares-inside-perspective/1B1tw3Lc2kqZi6DaWSpBVg.cspx


Powell family friend shares inside perspective

Last Update: 12/16 10:25 pm

New information tonight in the disappearance of Susan Powell.  The Deseret Morning News reports items confiscated by police last week include a notebook that might contain details about Susan's relationship with her husband, Joshua Powell.  According to the Salt Lake paper's sources, the notebook details threats allegedly made against the missing mother of two almost a year ago.

The investigation has moved from a missing persons to a criminal investigation.  We are for the first time today, hearing police say '’foul play’' is suspected.  Police say there's just no other way to explain what happened on the night of December 6th.  ABC4 asked a close friend of the Powells, the one who talked with Josh just days after Susan went missing, what he thought about Josh's alibi, recent silence and something now in the spotlight:  Josh and Susan's marriage.

Tim Peterson is a family friend of the Powells, who drove Josh to pick up his van from the police department three days after Susan went missing.  He says Powell seemed relatively calm.  Peterson then asked why he didn’t seem more distraught to which he says Powell replied, “The cops are taking care of that.”  Peterson says this response caught him off guard.  He says Josh also told him he frequently takes his boys out camping late at night.

Peterson told us that perhaps what's most startling to him now--the fact that Josh is staying so what he calls “uncharacteristically quiet.”  He says, “This much I do know about Josh.  Josh is extremely opinionated.”  Police, however, are saying they're having a hard time getting Josh to say much at all.  They say yesterday's interview with Powell was a bust with only brief general ID answers.

Peterson told us tonight that Susan would often confide in him about her marital woes.  He says, “She really did try in that relationship, she tried so hard…She had a very strict plan that come this Spring, if things weren't right between the two of them, that she was going to get a divorce.”

Police say they subpoenaed Powell to get a sample of DNA.  They say they wanted a clean sample from Josh on file in case they need it.

Police won’t talk about what kind of evidence they took out of Powell's house, but they do say they're waiting on the analysis from the state crime lab.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 11:28:23 AM
Notebook collected as evidence in missing woman case

WEST VALLEY CITY -- A notebook belonging to a missing West Valley City woman has been collected for evidence.

The Deseret News reports investigators last week seized the notebook 28-year-old Susan Powell kept at her desk at work. A source tells the Deseret News the notebook details threats made against Powell about a year ago.

The mother of two has been missing for a week and a half, and now police are going door to door in her neighborhood looking for new information that may help in the case. Police now are saying foul play "isn't a solid conclusion" but a "likely possibility."

Susan Powell was last seen by a friend on Dec. 6 and was reported missing the next day. Police on Wednesday said her husband Josh Powell is one of several persons of interest in the case.

Much public speculation has focused on Josh Powell and his story that he took his children camping in a remote and isolated area the same day Susan disappeared.


Susan Powell's disappearance has frustrated police and been a terrible ordeal for her family.

Kirk Graves, the husband of Josh Powell's sister, told NBC's "Today" show Thursday that his brother-in-law could be controlling, and was an "interesting person" with a "different" personality.

Asked whether he thought his brother-in-law had something to do with Susan Powell's disappearance, Graves said he's avoided analyzing the question.

"Too many emotions, too many family members. I just pray no," he said.

Jennifer Graves, Josh Powell's sister, says her sister-in-law's disappearance has turned her family's world upside down. She says she believes something terrible has happened to Susan because she never would have left her two boys behind.

Graves says she hopes her brother is not involved in Susan's disappearance. She says she has nightmares about what may have happened.

"I see her face in my mind, in my dreams. I'm sure that he does, too," Graves said.


Susan Powell's family has expressed thanks to the West Valley City Police Department for all its hard work in trying to find Susan. They've also thanked the public for its support.

The family has planned a news conference in the Seattle area on Thursday, according to a posting on the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9062334


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 11:29:29 AM
Family Of Missing Utah Woman Expects The Husband To Be ...

(West Valley City, UT) -- The focus of a missing person investigation in Utah is turning to the victim's husband, Joshua Powell.

Kirk Graves, an extended family member, told ABC News he wouldn't be surprised if Powell gets arrested in the next week.

Police have said the husband has been uncooperative in answering questions about his wife, Susan Powell, who vanished on December 7th.

West Valley City police said the case is about to turn from a missing person case into a criminal investigation.

Joshua maintains he went camping with his two kids, only to find his wife missing when he returned home.

http://mystateline.com/content/fulltext/?cid=123281


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 11:30:50 AM
Susan Powell Disappearance: Relatives Preparing for Husband's Arrest

Family members say they wouldn't be surprised if Joshua Powell gets arrested in the disappearance of his wife, missing Utah mom Susan Powell.

Relatives of Joshua Powell spoke out as police in West Valley City said they now believe foul play is a "likely possibility" in her disappearance. Police say they now consider Powell a person of interest in the case.

"I wouldn't be surprised if he gets arrested in the next seven days," Joshua Powell's brother-in-law Kirk Graves told ABC News. "Even if he's innocent, there's more than he's telling us."

West Valley City Assistant Chief Craig Black told "Good Morning America" today that it was a "likely possibility" that Susan Powell's disappearance involved foul play.

"Josh's reasons for not wanting to approach the police department or come and work with us in a little more forthcoming manner have kind of generated some controversy among the officers," Black said. '"And it's something that's been questioned by the community members who have been following the case."

CLICK HERE for more information on how you can help the search for Susan Powell and others that have gone missing.

Powell has refused to answer direct questions and, police said, he would not take investigators to the remote camp site where he told police he tooks his two young sons in the middle of the night of Dec. 7, the last day Susan Powell was seen alive.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/susan-powell-disappearance-relatives-expect-husband-arrested/story?id=9359781


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 12:26:35 PM
Videos from Friends and Family of Susan Powell: MISSING: Susan Powell Slide Show [HQ]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=198478842187#/video/video.php?v=1279605026930&oid=198478842187


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 17, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
Thank-you for all the updates, I guess it would be to much to ask if some family members could get Josh to speak, and tell the police what he has done to Susan  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 12:34:15 PM
Police: Missing mom’s husband acts ‘abnormal’
His wife disappeared Dec. 6; he has been named person of interest in case

Police have said the behavior of a Utah man who has refused to cooperate in the search for his missing wife is not normal and have named the man a person of interest in the mysterious disappearance of 28-year-old Susan Powell.

“[I would] describe him as abnormal under the circumstances,” West Valley City, Utah, Assistant Police Chief Craig Black said of Susan’s husband, Josh Powell, Thursday during an interview with TODAY’s Matt Lauer. “This is not normally what we see happen.”

Usually the families of missing persons are eager to help police, Black has told reporters. But after talking to police on Dec. 7, the day relatives reported Susan missing, Powell has hired a defense attorney and declined to talk to authorities further.

‘Uncomfortable’ questions
“We feel that Josh, probably more than anyone else, could provide us information and insight into what has happened to Susan, whether it be foul play or not at this point,” Black told Lauer. “We would truly like to visit with him, interview him and, frankly, ask him some questions about things he may even be uncomfortable talking to us about that would help lead us to find her.”

So far, Black said, Powell has given only information that would help police identify Susan if they do find her. He also did not give specific information as to his own whereabouts when his wife disappeared.

Powell said that he decided to take his two sons — Charlie, age 4, and Raden, age 2 — camping on the night of Sunday, Dec. 6. They left sometime near midnight and he said they camped in the west desert on the old Pony Express trail, sleeping in their minivan in subfreezing temperatures.

Even Susan’s family members acknowledge that such a trip at such an hour was not out of the ordinary for Josh. Josh told police that Susan didn’t feel well and stayed home.

When the boys didn’t show up at day care the next day and Susan didn’t show up for work, police were notified. They broke into the house, where they found Susan’s cell phone and purse and two fans trained on a wet spot on the living room carpet.

When Josh Powell returned later that afternoon with the boys, he said he did not know what happened to Susan. Because of an overnight snowstorm and Powell’s vague description of where he was, police said they have not even been able to locate the campsite.
“Where he described he went camping is just a vast area. It covers desert terrain and mountain terrain,” Black said.

Clues in a notepad?
Utah newspapers have reported that police in West Valley City, a Salt Lake City suburb, have taken a notebook from Susan’s desk at work as evidence. The papers have reported that the notebook may contain clues about marital problems the couple is said to have been experiencing. But Black declined to talk about any evidence that his department may have collected, instead continuing his public request that Josh Powell submit to questioning.

Meanwhile, Susan’s family continues to refrain from publicly suspecting Josh of being involved in Susan’s disappearance.

Susan’s brother, Kirk Graves, also talked with Lauer Thursday. Speaking from his home in Las Vegas, Graves said the family hopes that Josh will speak to police to help their investigation. At the same time, though, Graves said, “We understand his desire to get an attorney.”

Lauer said it’s hard to imagine a husband who would not want to give police every bit of information he could to find a wife at a moment when time is of the essence.

“I would agree with that,” Graves said without elaboration.

Graves said he has seen Josh and spoken to him, but has not had a chance to ask him specific questions. “He’s quiet. We haven’t had a chance to have any conversations on specific questions, such as where is Susan?” he told Lauer. “He’s just very stressed, he’s concerned, but nothing more than that.”

‘I just pray no’
Local newspapers have reported that Josh had become more controlling after he and his wife moved to Utah from Washington state. The couple had filed for bankruptcy in 2007, and money may have been a problem.

Graves said that his wife, Jennifer, and Susan were close and talked about the state of the marriage.

“Josh is an interesting person,” Graves said. “He’s a little different personality. I think ‘controlling’ is a safe word to use, but I also don’t think it should be overused.”

Lauer ended the interview by asking Graves, “In your heart of hearts, do you think Josh had anything to do with Susan’s disappearance?”

“Wow,” Graves said before continuing. “I’ve very carefully avoided analyzing that question. On my part, there’s too many emotions, too many family members. I just pray no.”

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/34460904/ns/today-today_people/




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 17, 2009, 02:04:25 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/

I was watching the local news at this link above and they said the family presser will be in about 2 hours from now.  I'm hoping it will be live at this link but not sure.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 17, 2009, 02:13:13 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/

I was watching the local news at this link above and they said the family presser will be in about 2 hours from now.  I'm hoping it will be live at this link but not sure.
Thanks. 
So far, Black said, Powell has given only information that would help police identify Susan if they do find her.  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Now that sent chills down me, maybe it was phrased wrong, or I took it wrong, but OMG.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 02:15:51 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/

I was watching the local news at this link above and they said the family presser will be in about 2 hours from now.  I'm hoping it will be live at this link but not sure.
Thanks. 
So far, Black said, Powell has given only information that would help police identify Susan if they do find her.  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Now that sent chills down me, maybe it was phrased wrong, or I took it wrong, but OMG.

I don't think it was phrased wrong. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MunkeyMunk on December 17, 2009, 02:16:35 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/

I was watching the local news at this link above and they said the family presser will be in about 2 hours from now.  I'm hoping it will be live at this link but not sure.
Thanks. 
So far, Black said, Powell has given only information that would help police identify Susan if they do find her.  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Now that sent chills down me, maybe it was phrased wrong, or I took it wrong, but OMG.


I felt the same way... ::MonkeyEek::
I don't think it was phrased wrong. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 17, 2009, 02:16:53 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/

I was watching the local news at this link above and they said the family presser will be in about 2 hours from now.  I'm hoping it will be live at this link but not sure.
Thanks. 
So far, Black said, Powell has given only information that would help police identify Susan if they do find her.  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Now that sent chills down me, maybe it was phrased wrong, or I took it wrong, but OMG.

My first thought was info like what she was wearing when he last saw her but you are right, the wording of that is disturbing  ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 02:17:15 PM
Susan Powell's brother says Josh Powell could be arrested soon

WEST VALLEY CITY — Susan Powell's brother, who originally seemed to be sticking up for her husband, now says he believes Josh Powell could be arrested within a week.

"I wouldn't be surprised if he gets arrested in the next seven days," Kirk Graves told ABC News. "Even if he's innocent, there's more than he's telling us."

That statement comes on the heels of a different message Dec. 12 when Graves stood next to Josh Powell during a press conference. Josh Powell did not speak to reporters that day. Instead, Graves read a statement asking the public to keep the focus on finding Susan Powell and less on his brother-in-law.

"There's a lot of speculation," Graves said at the time. "Unfortunately, that doesn't do Susan any good. It's destructive and damaging to what's going on."

Susan Powell's family, meanwhile, has scheduled a press conference Thursday afternoon in their hometown of Puyallup, Wash. Seven members of Susan Powell's family are expected to meet with the media. The reason for the press conference is unclear, but family members are expected to field questions after a brief statement is read.

MORE...

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705352238/Susan-Powells-family-to-speak-out.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 17, 2009, 02:18:03 PM
That was a disturbing sentence  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 02:23:29 PM
Family Member Says Arrest May be Possible for Husband of Susan Powell

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - A family member of a 28-year-old missing Utah mother, Susan Powell, said he would not be surprised if her husband, Josh, is named as a suspect in the case. "I wouldn't be surprised if he gets arrested in the next seven days," said Josh Powell's brother-in-law Kirk Graves in an interview with ABC News.

Authorities are now highly suspicious and are calling the case a criminal probe due to Josh Powell's "lack of cooperation." Police have named him a person of high interest, but are not calling him a suspect. Susan's family is expected to give a press conference from Seattle at about 2:00 p.m. MDT, where more details may come forward.

MORE...

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-family-member-arrest-josh-powell,0,1379045.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 17, 2009, 02:27:07 PM
Does anybody know what time the press conference is?

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 17, 2009, 02:28:56 PM
Does anybody know what time the press conference is?

Thanks

Janet

Hi Janet!  2pm MDT


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 17, 2009, 02:32:23 PM
Thanks Northern Rose.

You answers my question prior to it being asked.  You are absolutely amazing.

  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Is 1:00 PM PT?

Janet
11:31 AM PT



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 17, 2009, 02:33:37 PM
Does anybody know what time the press conference is?

Thanks

Janet

Hi Janet!  2pm MDT

Thanks Leroy.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 02:35:36 PM
Thanks Northern Rose.

You answers my question prior to it being asked.  You are absolutely amazing.

  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Is 1:00 PM PT?

Janet
11:31 AM PT

Yes, 1:00 PM  PT.  I am looking at the wa news sites to see if Komo or one of them will be streaming it.




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 02:37:14 PM
Thanks Northern Rose.

You answers my question prior to it being asked.  You are absolutely amazing.

  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Is 1:00 PM PT?

Janet
11:31 AM PT

Yes, 1:00 PM  PT.  I am looking at the wa news sites to see if Komo or one of them will be streaming it.



Sorry I got in your box.  While I was there I left you some Nanaimo bars and cleaned your chimney.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 17, 2009, 02:56:19 PM
Thanks Northern Rose.

You answers my question prior to it being asked.  You are absolutely amazing.

  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Is 1:00 PM PT?

Janet
11:31 AM PT

Yes, 1:00 PM  PT.  I am looking at the wa news sites to see if Komo or one of them will be streaming it.



Sorry I got in your box.  While I was there I left you some Nanaimo bars and cleaned your chimney.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Thank you Northern Rose

Papa and I are TOC (Teachers on Call) today for home schooled grandsons (10/11).  Lunch break will be shortly and those yummy brownies will be much appreciated.

Thanks for cleaning that chimney.  A rip roaring fire is planned for this evening while a mini Scrabble tournament (4 couples) is happening.  Left over Northern Rose brownies and Tim Horton's coffee will conclude the evening.

 ::snowmanlaugh::

Janet
11:55 AM PT

 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Lovinlife on December 17, 2009, 03:24:19 PM
Help me Leroy  ::ElfMonkey:: 1:00 MT= ? EST


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Lovinlife on December 17, 2009, 03:28:22 PM
Help me Leroy  ::ElfMonkey:: 1:00 MT= ? EST
nevermind ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 03:29:38 PM
Updated video from the noon news and article.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/thesearchforsusanpowell/kstu-family-member-arrest-josh-powell,0,3143871.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 03:31:12 PM
Press conference is 2:00 MDT, 1:00 PT   ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 17, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
Help me Leroy  ::ElfMonkey:: 1:00 MT= ? EST
nevermind ::MonkeySkate::

Hi Lovin!   :smt111 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 03:35:28 PM
The family of Puyallup native Susan Powell, missing in Utah, has set up a Facebook page in her honor.
This afternoon, her family is having a press conference in Puyallup.
We will be covering it.


http://puyallup.komonews.com/content/susan-powells-family-establishes-facebook-page


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Lovinlife on December 17, 2009, 03:35:55 PM
Help me Leroy  ::ElfMonkey:: 1:00 MT= ? EST
nevermind ::MonkeySkate::

Hi Lovin!   :smt111 
Hey Leroy!  ::HelloKitty:: For any monkeys in EST (like me who apparently is a ditzbrain) the press conf will be at 4:00 EST.  Someone take notes please?  I have no speakers.  TIA. Lovin ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 03:37:08 PM
<snipped>

Also Thursday, police admitted they had interviewed the Powells' 4-year-old son and he told investigators that he did go camping with his dad. But McLachlan declined to answer any other questions regarding that interview, such as whether the boy clarified whether they went camping on the day Josh Powell said they did or if he meant a different time, or where they went.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705352238/Family-Josh-Powell-could-be-arrested.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 03:40:01 PM
Q13 will be streaming the press conference

www.q13fox.com


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MunkeyMunk on December 17, 2009, 03:47:03 PM
http://www.komonews.com/live

Also live here


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 17, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
http://www.komonews.com/live

Also live here

Thank you (and also Northern!).


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 17, 2009, 03:52:13 PM
Did I miss the press conference?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 03:52:54 PM
Did I miss the press conference?

Not started yet.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 17, 2009, 03:53:53 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
Here we go.  I have video and sound on

http://www.komonews.com/live


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 17, 2009, 04:06:16 PM
I'm picking it up here

http://www.kirotv.com/video/21995218/index.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 04:10:08 PM
Susan's sister.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 04:17:24 PM
Susan's parents Judy and Chuck Cox


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 17, 2009, 04:18:19 PM
Thank-you, the grief on Susan's parents faces  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 04:19:03 PM
Susan's family is not surprised that Josh is a person of interest based on his actions

Susan would not have tolerated her children to go out camping after midnight and in those weather condidtions

Primary family focus is to remind everyone that Susan has not yet been found

Fund has been set up to help Cox family with cost of searchs, travel etc.

Cuck returned to WA as Judy his wife's health is not good



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 17, 2009, 04:21:29 PM
Susan's family is not surprised that Josh is a person of interest based on his actions

Susan would not have tolerated her children to go out camping after midnight and in those weather condidtions

Primary family focus is to remind everyone that Susan has not yet been found

Fund has been set up to help Cox family with cost of searchs, travel etc.

Cuck returned to WA as Judy his wife's health is not good


Thank-you, and if Judy's health is not good, this could kill her. I'm just furious.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 17, 2009, 04:26:29 PM
This woman, the friend/spokesperson for Susan's family is wonderful.  She's excellent at directing these press conferences. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 04:31:02 PM
There is no one from Susan's side of the family that think she left on her own especially without her boys. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 04:32:38 PM
This woman, the friend/spokesperson for Susan's family is wonderful.  She's excellent at directing these press conferences. 

Yes she is.  She is also familiar with some of them as she has called them by their first names.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 04:34:23 PM
more images of Susan's parents Chuck and Judy Cox


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 04:43:01 PM
Cox Family photo


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 04:55:26 PM
Family of missing Utah mom speaks out on husband
By MANUEL VALDES (AP) – 6 minutes ago

PUYALLUP, Wash. — The family of a Utah mother who has been missing for 10 days said Thursday they are saddened but not surprised that her husband has been named a person of interest in the investigation.

Susan Powell, a 28-year-old mother of two young children, was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up for work. She was last seen a day earlier.

Her husband, Josh Powell, said he went camping with the couple's boys, ages 2 and 4, in subfreezing temperatures about 12:30 a.m. on Dec. 7 and returned in the evening.

At a press conference Thursday in Puyallup, Wash., Shelby Gifford, a spokeswoman for Susan Powell's family, said they weren't surprised authorities named the husband a person of interest "given the events and his reactions to them in the past week.

"We know that Susan is an excellent mother and would not have tolerated her children being taken out of the home after midnight to go camping in dangerously cold conditions," Gifford said.

Authorities said Josh Powell's actions have made them increasingly suspicious of him, although he has not been named a suspect.

"Josh's unusual lack of cooperation for a husband looking for his wife with the police department, you know, it certainly causes us to ask questions as to why would he do things to exclude the resources that we can bring to the table to find Susan," West Valley City Asst. Police Chief Craig Black said Wednesday.

But Josh Powell's attorney, Scott Williams, disputed allegations made by police that his client had been uncooperative.

"Despite our continued invitation to be contacted with questions we received no contact from the police today (Wednesday) and as to the nature of prior information, we have answered all questions posed to us since Monday morning," he said. "Josh continues to favor attention on finding Susan and has been cooperating and providing information to that end."

Josh Powell did provide a DNA sample Tuesday to police, as did several other family members. Williams, a defense attorney who often defends high-profile clients, described the DNA testing as routine in such cases.

The Powell home was locked when officers initially arrived and they broke in, fearing the family had suffered from carbon monoxide poisoning.

Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox of Puyallup, Wash., said police found a wet spot in the home being dried by two fans, but police have declined to comment on that.

Investigators said there were no signs of forced entry at the home and they found Susan Powell's purse and cell phone there.

Susan Powell was last seen by someone other than her husband on Dec. 6 — a family friend who ate dinner with her at the couple's home following church.

Kirk Graves, the husband of Josh Powell's sister, told NBC's "Today" show Thursday that his brother-in-law could be controlling, and was an "interesting person" with a "different" personality.

Asked whether he thought his brother-in-law had something to do with Susan Powell's disappearance, Graves said he's avoided analyzing the question.

"Too many emotions, too many family members. I just pray no," he said.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CLADUO0


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MunkeyMunk on December 17, 2009, 05:38:59 PM
 ::MonkeyCool:: Those two tables of Susan's family need to go corner Joshua and make him talk!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on December 17, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
Susan's album updated:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/



Northern Rose, may I add your family shot?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 06:40:35 PM
Susan's album updated:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/



Northern Rose, may I add your family shot?

You can add any screen shot I grab on any of the threads.

Thank you for keeping these out there in the public.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 17, 2009, 06:42:05 PM
Susan Powell's family is between a rock and a hard place.  Family members are walking a fine line.  Josh is the father of those children and ... a continued connection with those two boys if Josh should not be held accountable for the death of their mother ... dictates an intact relationship.

The Susan and Josh Powell story has given me flashbacks.

Our daughter was in a controlling relationship for one year when she was 21.  This guy was very good looking and very charming.  They both shared a mutual faith.  He was a graduate from the local Christian University and ... had been accepted into a prominent accounting firm in Vancouver, BC.  He came from a very loving close family.

However ... this young man was so insecure with the relationship and ... he didn't have to be.  Our daughter was in love.  It seemed our daughter had to account for her every minute ... what she was doing ... who she was talking to.  He was jealous of her friendships.  He was jealous of her family relationships.

Right from the getgo ... this wannabe detective ... sensed that something was not right.  When I voiced my concern ... my daughter would staunchly defend him and ... continued to appease him to keep the peace.  It was so sad.  Our daughter had been such an independent young lady.  I learned to keep quiet and ... cry at night.  I reasoned if the relationship ended in marriage ... I would be the loser.  I did not want to be alienated from my daughter and future grandchildren.

Thankfully our daughter came to her senses ... ended the relationship when she realized there was nothing she could do to change the situation.  Although this guy had never been physically abusive ... I was concerned in regards to a possible backlash.  Thankfully ... it never happened and a short time later our daughter went to Thailand on the mission field on a two year commitment.  My hubby and I missed her terribly but ... everything is relative  We rathered she was half way across the world than in a controlling relationship.

Janet   


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 06:43:56 PM






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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on December 17, 2009, 06:44:01 PM
Susan's album updated:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/



Northern Rose, may I add your family shot?

You can add any screen shot I grab on any of the threads.

Thank you for keeping these out there in the public.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks a bunch. (I do it with love, most times)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 06:44:48 PM


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 06:47:01 PM
Susan's album updated:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/



Northern Rose, may I add your family shot?

You can add any screen shot I grab on any of the threads.

Thank you for keeping these out there in the public.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks a bunch. (I do it with love, most times)

I understand that. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 17, 2009, 06:52:15 PM
Susan has such a beautiful smile..you can just feel the warmth of her personality in every picture of her.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 17, 2009, 06:56:32 PM
Susan has such a beautiful smile..you can just feel the warmth of her personality in every picture of her.

It was obvious that she was loved by her family and that they are very close from the press conference today.  They will need to lean on each other through this. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 17, 2009, 07:34:14 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Forensic-crews-ramp-up-crime-investigation-at/pVZEv2JFnUmBSQZpGuBVpg.cspx


Forensic crews ramp up crime investigation at Powell home
Written by: Dan Metcalf Jr.

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Crime scene investigators re-entered the home of Josh and Susan Powell on Thursday, as the street surrounding a West Valley neighborhood was sealed off.

Forensic teams were seen entering the home and leaving with evidence to be taken in for analysis.

Crime scene tape and several vehicles blocked access to the cul-de-sac where the Powell family lives.

Susan Powell has been missing since December 6, and her husband Josh has been named as the only person of interest in the case, which police now consider a crime.

West Valley Police Captian Tom McLachlan later confirmed to ABC 4 News that investigators di serve a new warrant at the Powell home on Thursday, but would not elaborate on what prompted the new search.

Several investigators were seen leaving the home carrying bags of evidence.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on December 17, 2009, 09:27:53 PM
http://tinyurl.com/yh4upv6

Cops: Missing Utah mom's son confirms camping trip

  By MANUEL VALDES and JENNIFER DOBNER, Associated Press Writers Manuel Valdes And Jennifer Dobner, Associated Press Writers   – 7 mins ago

PUYALLUP, Wash. – Police searched the home of a missing Utah mother on Thursday as family members held a tearful news conference in which they expressed their sadness that the husband has been named a person of interest in the investigation.

Susan Powell, a 28-year-old mother of two young children, was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up for her stockbroker job at a bank. She was last seen a day earlier.

Her husband, Josh Powell, said he went camping with the couple's boys, ages 2 and 4, in subfreezing temperatures in the middle of the night Dec. 7 and returned in the evening.

West Valley City Police Capt. Tom McLachlan on Thursday said the 4-year-old boy was interviewed within "a day or two" after his mother was reported missing. The son told police his family went camping — an event his father has said coincided with her disappearance.

"I think the verification of the camping trip is important to the timeline on this," McLachlan said, cautioning against placing too much importance on the child's statement.

Meanwhile Thursday, Susan Powell's family members held a news conference in Washington state, where her parents live.

Eight members of Susan Powell's family were present, including her mother, two sisters, grandparents and a brother-in-law. As family friend and spokeswoman Shelby Gifford spoke about Powell's life, several members broke down in tears and embraced each other.

"Helpless, it just comes to mind. Totally dependent upon others. Impatient. I want my daughter to be back. I'm heartbroken she is gone," Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, said in an interview with The Associated Press in Puyallup.

The husband is not a suspect, but authorities said he has demonstrated a frustrating lack of cooperation that has only increased their suspicion of him. Police suspect foul play.

Investigators searched the Powell home for a second time in nine days Thursday, but would not disclose what was taken. Police have also searched Josh Powell's van.

Court records show that the family filed for bankruptcy in 2007, but Gifford declined to talk about the couple's financial history. She characterized their marriage as normal, with ups and downs.

McLachlan declined to comment on whether police had obtained a notebook or journal from Susan Powell's office, which reportedly detailed an alleged threat made by her husband about a year ago. Cox said police found a wet spot in the home being dried by two fans, but police have declined to comment on that.

Investigators said there were no signs of forced entry at the home and they found Susan Powell's purse and cell phone there.

Gifford said friends and family members weren't surprised authorities named the husband a person of interest "given the events and his reactions to them in the past week."

"We know that Susan is an excellent mother and would not have tolerated her children being taken out of the home after midnight to go camping in dangerously cold conditions," Gifford said.

Meanwhile, police said investigators have discussed conducting a polygraph test of Josh Powell, but no such interview has occurred.

"He is not allowing us the opportunity to interview him at length in order to verify his statements and also to get more specifics," McLachlan said. "His statements are absolutely vague."

Josh Powell's attorney, Scott Williams, disputed allegations made that his client had been uncooperative. Josh Powell has spoken to police and provided a DNA sample this week, as did several other family members. Williams, a defense attorney who often defends high-profile clients, described the DNA testing as routine in such cases.

Police have not sought to restrict Powell's movements by asking him to surrender a passport, because they don't have sufficient information to make that request, McLachlan said.

When asked what his reaction was to his son-in-law being named a person of interest, Cox replied: "I hope it's not true. I hope it's not true."

He added he believes his daughter is alive.

"As a father I can't give up the hope that she is still alive," Cox said.

Gifford said the couple's two boys — Charlie and Braden — are staying with Joshua Powell and at his sister's home at the moment. She said the family has access to the children, and Cox said he feels his grandchildren are safe with Josh Powell.

Josh Powell's brother-in-law, Kirk Graves, said the family is "not doing well," and struggling to deal with Susan's Powell's disappearance. He said Susan Powell's young boys — ages 4 and 2_ have asked about their mother's whereabouts.

"It's coming up on Christmas and this is about the worst time of year to have the very worst thing happen to you," Graves said.

___

Jennifer Dobner reported from Salt Lake City.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 09:52:15 AM
Susan Powell's family speaks as police serve a search warrant at her house

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - The family of Susan Powell talked with reporters Thursday from their hometown of Puyallup, Washington. At the same time, police in West Valley City, Utah were back at the Powell home with another search warrant.

Detectives and forensic investigators arrived around 1:30 p.m. and didn't leave until just before 4:00 p.m. They took swabs of something on the front steps and a window sill. They removed brown paper sacks of items from the home.

What were they looking for? And did they find it? A police spokesman isn't saying. But this was at least the 3rd visit by a crime scene investigation unit to the home since Susan Powell disappeared a week ago Sunday and it comes as Joshua Powell, Susan's husband, has been named as a person of interest in her disappearance.

Reacting to that, Cox family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford said, "It breaks our hearts, but we're not surprised."

Gifford said that since Susan has been gone, her two young children have been spending time with their paternal grandparents, an aunt and uncle and their father. Reporters asked if they were concerned for the children's safety when they're with Joshua.  She said no. She said Josh has been a good father.

And yet, they dispute his account of the night Susan disappeared.

He claims around midnight on Sunday, December 6th, he took the kids on a camping trip. That Sunday night a major winter storm was blowing into Utah. Speaking for the Cox family, Shelby Gifford said Susan would never have let her kids go camping on such a night. "That's a huge red flag to the family. Susan is an exceptional mother and those boys are her whole life. She is as nurturing and protective of a mother as I've ever met."

Despite the time elapsed, members of the Cox family say they remain hopeful that Susan will be found alive.

http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Susan-Powells-family-speaks-as-police-serve-a/NfKznDTU8kWl1-KA6JRyiw.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 18, 2009, 10:23:19 AM
the dad could have taken the kids "somewhere" and perhaps started a fire and said, isn't it fun camping? and that could be why the 4 yr old said what ever he said about being camping..know what I mean?
he could have disposed of Susan along the way to "camping"..imo..He did something to her...
perhaps he had put something in her food to make her so tired that she had to go take a nap while her friend was there visiting...very odd since it wasn't late in the evening when Susan wanted to take a nap..that drugging may have made her unable to defend herself or made her unconscious or maybe even killed her..then he took her somewhere to hide her body?  ok..I know that I am being a monkey sleuth here but my hinky meter is really up with this guy...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ScareyCarrie on December 18, 2009, 10:35:23 AM
Susan Powell's family speaks as police serve a search warrant at her house

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - The family of Susan Powell talked with reporters Thursday from their hometown of Puyallup, Washington. At the same time, police in West Valley City, Utah were back at the Powell home with another search warrant.

Detectives and forensic investigators arrived around 1:30 p.m. and didn't leave until just before 4:00 p.m. They took swabs of something on the front steps and a window sill. They removed brown paper sacks of items from the home.

What were they looking for? And did they find it? A police spokesman isn't saying. But this was at least the 3rd visit by a crime scene investigation unit to the home since Susan Powell disappeared a week ago Sunday and it comes as Joshua Powell, Susan's husband, has been named as a person of interest in her disappearance.

Reacting to that, Cox family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford said, "It breaks our hearts, but we're not surprised."

Gifford said that since Susan has been gone, her two young children have been spending time with their paternal grandparents, an aunt and uncle and their father. Reporters asked if they were concerned for the children's safety when they're with Joshua.  She said no. She said Josh has been a good father.

And yet, they dispute his account of the night Susan disappeared.

He claims around midnight on Sunday, December 6th, he took the kids on a camping trip. That Sunday night a major winter storm was blowing into Utah. Speaking for the Cox family, Shelby Gifford said Susan would never have let her kids go camping on such a night. "That's a huge red flag to the family. Susan is an exceptional mother and those boys are her whole life. She is as nurturing and protective of a mother as I've ever met."

Despite the time elapsed, members of the Cox family say they remain hopeful that Susan will be found alive.

http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Susan-Powells-family-speaks-as-police-serve-a/NfKznDTU8kWl1-KA6JRyiw.cspx

I wonder if the evidence brought out included a peice of carpet?????


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Lovinlife on December 18, 2009, 10:36:03 AM
Skirting in on Cookies coat tails...He gets in the back of the minivan while the kids are in their carseats.  Kids are strapped in so tight in car seats now days they can't turn around to see what's happening.

I'm sure they've processed the van?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ScareyCarrie on December 18, 2009, 10:38:11 AM
Susan Powell's family is between a rock and a hard place.  Family members are walking a fine line.  Josh is the father of those children and ... a continued connection with those two boys if Josh should not be held accountable for the death of their mother ... dictates an intact relationship.

The Susan and Josh Powell story has given me flashbacks.

Our daughter was in a controlling relationship for one year when she was 21.  This guy was very good looking and very charming.  They both shared a mutual faith.  He was a graduate from the local Christian University and ... had been accepted into a prominent accounting firm in Vancouver, BC.  He came from a very loving close family.

However ... this young man was so insecure with the relationship and ... he didn't have to be.  Our daughter was in love.  It seemed our daughter had to account for her every minute ... what she was doing ... who she was talking to.  He was jealous of her friendships.  He was jealous of her family relationships.

Right from the getgo ... this wannabe detective ... sensed that something was not right.  When I voiced my concern ... my daughter would staunchly defend him and ... continued to appease him to keep the peace.  It was so sad.  Our daughter had been such an independent young lady.  I learned to keep quiet and ... cry at night.  I reasoned if the relationship ended in marriage ... I would be the loser.  I did not want to be alienated from my daughter and future grandchildren.

Thankfully our daughter came to her senses ... ended the relationship when she realized there was nothing she could do to change the situation.  Although this guy had never been physically abusive ... I was concerned in regards to a possible backlash.  Thankfully ... it never happened and a short time later our daughter went to Thailand on the mission field on a two year commitment.  My hubby and I missed her terribly but ... everything is relative  We rathered she was half way across the world than in a controlling relationship.

Janet   

BBM, this would be a very very difficult situation to be in especially without solid physical evidence....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ScareyCarrie on December 18, 2009, 10:39:45 AM
Skirting in on Cookies coat tails...He gets in the back of the minivan while the kids are in their carseats.  Kids are strapped in so tight in car seats now days they can't turn around to see what's happening.

I'm sure they've processed the van?

IIRC the took his van for 1 day or for a night and his BIL took him to go pick it up... let me see if i can find the link... brb


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 10:40:08 AM
the dad could have taken the kids "somewhere" and perhaps started a fire and said, isn't it fun camping? and that could be why the 4 yr old said what ever he said about being camping..know what I mean?
he could have disposed of Susan along the way to "camping"..imo..He did something to her...
perhaps he had put something in her food to make her so tired that she had to go take a nap while her friend was there visiting...very odd since it wasn't late in the evening when Susan wanted to take a nap..that drugging may have made her unable to defend herself or made her unconscious or maybe even killed her..then he took her somewhere to hide her body?  ok..I know that I am being a monkey sleuth here but my hinky meter is really up with this guy...
That is exactly what I'm thinking, and the four year old would just think they were camping  ::MonkeyNoNo:: this guy just gives me the creeps.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ScareyCarrie on December 18, 2009, 10:50:31 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Powell-family-friend-shares-inside-perspective/1B1tw3Lc2kqZi6DaWSpBVg.cspx


Powell family friend shares inside perspective

Last Update: 12/16 10:25 pm

......Tim Peterson is a family friend of the Powells, who drove Josh to pick up his van from the police department three days after Susan went missing.  He says Powell seemed relatively calm.  Peterson then asked why he didn’t seem more distraught to which he says Powell replied, “The cops are taking care of that.”  Peterson says this response caught him off guard.  He says Josh also told him he frequently takes his boys out camping late at night.

snipped from klaas post on page 10 near top...

So a family friend not BIL


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 18, 2009, 11:05:14 AM
My Hinky Meter exploded and fell off the shelf the first time he opened his mouth/day 1. She may not be found until spring...with all the storms/snow around  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 18, 2009, 11:14:47 AM
My Hinky Meter exploded and fell off the shelf the first time he opened his mouth/day 1. She may not be found until spring...with all the storms/snow around  ::MonkeyNoNo::

me too Nut...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ScareyCarrie on December 18, 2009, 11:17:53 AM
My Hinky Meter exploded and fell off the shelf the first time he opened his mouth/day 1. She may not be found until spring...with all the storms/snow around  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyShovel:: (minus the monkey and the smile) He is digging him self quit the hole....

how would this statement jive with his belief she may have been abducted....

and what makes him think she is somewhere that the snow will burry her or hinder finding her....

unless..... HE DID IT DUHHHH he is not a smart murderer thats for sure


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 11:37:40 AM
the dad could have taken the kids "somewhere" and perhaps started a fire and said, isn't it fun camping? and that could be why the 4 yr old said what ever he said about being camping..know what I mean?
he could have disposed of Susan along the way to "camping"..imo..He did something to her...
perhaps he had put something in her food to make her so tired that she had to go take a nap while her friend was there visiting...very odd since it wasn't late in the evening when Susan wanted to take a nap..that drugging may have made her unable to defend herself or made her unconscious or maybe even killed her..then he took her somewhere to hide her body?  ok..I know that I am being a monkey sleuth here but my hinky meter is really up with this guy...
That is exactly what I'm thinking, and the four year old would just think they were camping  ::MonkeyNoNo:: this guy just gives me the creeps.

There was an article that said the 4 year old told police they went camping but when the reporter asked police if it was on the night Susan disappeared the police would not say, all they would say is that 4 year said Dad took them camping.  IMO the camping trip the 4 year old was recalling could have been from a different time.  I don;t think he took them camping, built a fire, had smores and slept with them in the van all night as he claims.  IMO he did take the kids and Susan somewhere and either drugged the kids so they would sleep until the next day or because it was really late they slept through the whole thing and when they woke Josh told them they had been camping.  He did not get back till 5:30 the next day yet he said nothing about what he made for them camping in the morning on the fire or for lunch all he talks about is smores.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 11:42:15 AM
Husband of missing Utah woman gives fishy story, suspicions mount

Susan Powell is the wife and mother of two who has been missing from her West Valley City, Utah residence since December 7th.

Her husband, Josh Powell, has been named a person of interest in the investigation. He has not been very cooperative with authorities, refusing to provide necessary details to fill in the story of what may have happened that night.

Now, Susan's family has said Josh's claim that he took their children camping the night Susan disappeared raises a "huge red flag". Josh claimed he took the two children, ages 2 and 4 to the Pony Express Trail to camp in the family van at 12:30 in the morning on a frigid winter night. Yesterday, family friend Shelby Gifford said "Susan ... would not have tolerated her children being taken out of the home after midnight to go camping in dangerously cold conditions."

The fact that Josh Powell has been named a person of interest saddens Susan's family and friends, but apparently it is "not a surprise, given the events and his reaction to them in the past week," Gifford said.

Authorities have found Susan's phone, purse and keys inside the Powell residence. This is also suspicious. Shelby Gifford's husband, Michael, said "She would never leave her home without her ... cell phone, especially if her children were gone camping in the kind of conditions that they had gone camping."

Family and friends have said the marriage of Susan and Joshua Powell has been strained lately, citing financial and emotional stresses.

We hope she is safely found soon.

http://www.theskichannel.com/news/skinews/20091218/Husband-of-missing-Utah-woman-gives-fishy-story-suspicions-mount


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 18, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
also, I thought that I had read somewhere that dad could not recall where they had gone camping at? and that the police could not confirm the camping trip because of the weather?? did I read that? pretty sure I did...

wouldn't there be supplies in the van from the "camping trip"?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 11:44:49 AM
Joshua Powell "Very Intelligent" Former Associates Say

His responses in a 2News interview last week were slow, but Joshua Powell is being cast as an intelligent man by several former business associates.

"I definitely think he's intelligent, a very bright guy," said Charles Sipes, a real estate broker at a firm where Powell once worked. "I would say he was masterful in creating a marketing presence."

According to Sipes, Powell launched a multi-faceted approach to drum up real estate business, with a website, grocery store ads, even magnets with his name and number that went out in Yellow Books across the Salt Lake Valley.

Powell's expertise was echoed by a person for whom he did web work, through a company know as "Polished Marketing."

The individual called him "very smart" and said, "He completely changed our website...which resulted in more positive feedback."

Their descriptions may belie Joshua Powell's televised persona since his wife Susan disappeared.

But Sipes told 2News Powell often spoke in a halting fashion at the real estate office, calling the speech pattern "typical Josh."

Powell apparently still maintains a real estate site, and lists the same address as his former employer, though he has not worked there in a year.

What's more, the site may have been updated a couple of days after Susan vanished. A link on the site directs users to a link for a real estate article, dated December 9, 2009.

Further, while Joshua Powell declared bankruptcy in 2007, listing more than $187,000 in unsecured debt, his real estate site offers "credit repair tips."

http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=67802


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 11:47:11 AM
also, I thought that I had read somewhere that dad could not recall where they had gone camping at? and that the police could not confirm the camping trip because of the weather?? did I read that? pretty sure I did...

wouldn't there be supplies in the van from the "camping trip"?

You are correct Cookie.  Josh could not (or would not)  tell them exactly where he went camping and because of the winter storm between the supposed trip and discovery of Susan being missing , everything was covered in fresh snow so no possibility of finding tire tracks or campsite. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 11:50:40 AM
'Breaks our hearts' — Susan Powell's family concerned about the actions of her husband

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705352238/Susan-Powells-family-saddened.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 11:55:33 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 12:02:44 PM
My Hinky Meter exploded and fell off the shelf the first time he opened his mouth/day 1. She may not be found until spring...with all the storms/snow around  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I totally agree, he would have been better off keeping his mouth shut to the public.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on December 18, 2009, 01:14:29 PM
This question about the wet floor may have been answered.....

I keep thinking about it because I use two box fans to dry my wood floor (in the kitchen) after I mop.  The floor is completely dry after an hour.

For the police to find a wet spot with two fans blowing on the spot makes me think that they were positioned sometime within the hour....unless the fans were very small.

Does this bother anyone else? 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 02:13:52 PM
This question about the wet floor may have been answered.....

I keep thinking about it because I use two box fans to dry my wood floor (in the kitchen) after I mop.  The floor is completely dry after an hour.

For the police to find a wet spot with two fans blowing on the spot makes me think that they were positioned sometime within the hour....unless the fans were very small.

Does this bother anyone else? 
Horribly, and I believe the wet spot was on the living room carpet  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 03:58:49 PM
Investigators Seize More Evidence in Search for Missing Utah Mom (with video)

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - Investigators have retrieved more evidence during a second search of the home of a Utah woman missing for nearly two weeks. Susan Powell, a 28-year-old mother of two young children, was reported missing on Dec. 7, 2009 when she failed to appear at work and her children were not dropped off at day care. Her husband, Josh Powell, told police he took his two sons, ages 2 and 4, camping that day at about 12:30 a.m. in subfreezing temperatures and returned in the evening.

Police have now issued five search warrants in the case, including three searches of the Powell home, a search of the family van and one of Josh himself, looking for a DNA sample. Police are not releasing any details on the evidence seized in the case.
Authorities call Josh Powell a "person of interest" in the case and his "lack of cooperation" and actions have made them increasingly suspicious, but he has not been named a suspect in the case.

At a press conference Thursday in Puyallup, Wash., spokeswoman for the family of Susan Powell, Shelby Gifford, said they were not surprised authorities named the husband as a "person of interest."

"We know that Susan is an excellent mother and would not have tolerated her children being taken out of the home after midnight to go camping in dangerously cold conditions," Gifford said.

A local newspaper reported on Thursday that officers retrieved a notebook from Susan's workplace, Wells Fargo, that allegedly chronicles threats made to her by her husband. Reports also say that police found a wet spot in the home being dried by two fans. Police have not yet confirmed the notebook or the wet spot as evidence in the case.

After his initial interview with police, Powell retained a high-profile attorney, Scott Williams, who is famous for representing clients in high-profile cases.

Susan's father, Charles Cox, said at the family press conference that he is not concerned about the children being with their father.

"From the time I've known Joshua and his interaction with the children, he has always been a super father to them and there is no doubt in my mind that they are safe with him," said Susan's father, Charles Cox.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-evidence-seized-missing-utah-mom,0,54500.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 03:59:54 PM
Police request media keep footage of missing woman's husband

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Friday morning police asked all news agencies not to destroy video of Joshua Powell. They would not say why they've made that request.

Thursday, police searched the home of Susan Powell for a second time, looking for evidence that may explain her disappearance 11 days ago.

Police have said Powell's husband Josh is their only person of interest in the case, but they are not calling him a suspect. Officers also questioned neighbors of the Powell family.

Members of Susan Powell's family say they had no indication she would have felt threatened in the marriage.

Family spokesperson Shelby Gifford said, "If we felt like Susan was in danger, as a family we would have taken steps to get her out of that situation. So some of the things you are learning this week, we are learning with you."

What role the evidence seized will play in the case is unknown as the investigation continues.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9077062


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:04:42 PM
Josh does not look happy about the latest search warrant


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:10:05 PM
Campsite search


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 04:20:24 PM
Thanks, that pic of him, he looks just nasty.  Friday morning police asked all news agencies not to destroy video of Joshua Powell. They would not say why they've made that request.   ::MonkeyEek:: Interesting


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:23:14 PM
Thanks, that pic of him, he looks just nasty.  Friday morning police asked all news agencies not to destroy video of Joshua Powell. They would not say why they've made that request.   ::MonkeyEek:: Interesting

Yup, I am going to start looking at old video to see if there are scratches, bruises, etc.  That would almost be too obvious but not sure what else to look for.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:28:16 PM
Josh Dec 12 video if anyone else wants to see if they can find anything.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9011381


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 04:33:34 PM
Josh Dec 12 video if anyone else wants to see if they can find anything.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9011381
Thanks, I see nothing on his face, and the little I saw of his hands I didn't see anything unusual. I want to find that video where he spoke and made no sense.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:34:53 PM
Josh at Candle Vigil Dec 11

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8986844


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:35:38 PM
Josh Dec 12 video if anyone else wants to see if they can find anything.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9011381
Thanks, I see nothing on his face, and the little I saw of his hands I didn't see anything unusual. I want to find that video where he spoke and made no sense.

The one were he ended it by saying he had to do something with his boys?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 04:39:27 PM
Josh Dec 12 video if anyone else wants to see if they can find anything.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9011381
Thanks, I see nothing on his face, and the little I saw of his hands I didn't see anything unusual. I want to find that video where he spoke and made no sense.

The one were he ended it by saying he had to do something with his boys?
I just watched the one from page one, I think his first interview, I'm not sure if I saw the one that he had to do something with his boys.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
Dec 10 Josh speaks in front of his house.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-wvc-woman-missing,0,1741948.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 18, 2009, 04:43:35 PM
Josh Dec 12 video if anyone else wants to see if they can find anything.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9011381
Thanks, I see nothing on his face, and the little I saw of his hands I didn't see anything unusual. I want to find that video where he spoke and made no sense.

The one were he ended it by saying he had to do something with his boys?
I just watched the one from page one, I think his first interview, I'm not sure if I saw the one that he had to do something with his boys.

Thats the first time I have ever heard LE make a request like that...I wonder if Josh was tested for drugs he acted like he was spaced out on something to me in the beginning.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:46:38 PM
Dec 10 Josh speaks in front of his house.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-wvc-woman-missing,0,1741948.story

This is the video where he ends the interview saying he has to go see his boys.  As he walks away he has one hand in his pant pocket and the other in his coat pocket.  I find that odd.  Usually you have both in your coat or both in your pant but not one in each and continue to walk that way.  Am I searching too hard?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:54:03 PM
Ok here is the full weird interview.  He says he has to go, heads to the house but instead of going up the stairs goes past them to where his house number is , glances over his shoulder at the cameras, kicks or covers something up with snow right under the house number, glances over at cameras again, then goes into the house.

Thoughts?

http://www.fox13now.com/videobeta/?watchId=9e25538d-d839-400a-8b3a-6797d6ef0121


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 04:57:39 PM
Dec 10 Josh speaks in front of his house.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-wvc-woman-missing,0,1741948.story
Thanks, he looks so fake and guilty as sin.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 04:59:54 PM
Here are stills of him walking past his stairs and kicking something in the snow first.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 04:59:59 PM
Ok here is the full weird interview.  He says he has to go, heads to the house but instead of going up the stairs goes past them to where his house number is , glances over his shoulder at the cameras, kicks or covers something up with snow right under the house number, glances over at cameras again, then goes into the house.

Thoughts?

http://www.fox13now.com/videobeta/?watchId=9e25538d-d839-400a-8b3a-6797d6ef0121
What an azz, I'm not sure what he was doing, maybe pretending to be all disoriented from grief.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 05:01:04 PM
I am off to go sledding with the kids.  BBL


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 18, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
Northern - without reading back, is the campsite search from today or the last couple days?  TIA


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 05:03:17 PM
Northern - without reading back, is the campsite search from today or the last couple days?  TIA

Old footage from before. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 05:04:29 PM
I am off to go sledding with the kids.  BBL
Have fun ::hohohosanta::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 18, 2009, 05:05:07 PM
Would Susan not have questioned Josh as to why he was taking the boys camping when he had to be reporting to a new job in a matter of hours.

Getting his days mixed up??  I don't think so.

Janet

+++++++
 
Susan Powell's husband Josh meets with West Valley City police
Authorities are still not calling him a suspect in the case
By Pat Reavy

Deseret News
Published: Tuesday, Dec. 15, 2009 10:16 p.m. MST

 
... . Josh Powell has told police he left with his boys, ages 2 and 4, about midnight on Dec. 6 to go camping in Tooele. The temperature that night was about 10 degrees. He said all three slept in their minivan.

On Monday, Dec. 7, a concerned family member went to the Powell home after being notified that neither Susan nor Josh Powell had shown up for work and their children had not been dropped off at day care. Josh Powell later told reporters he didn't show up for work because he got his days mixed up and thought it was Sunday. ....

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705351731/Josh-Powell-skips-police-interview.html?pg=1



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
No way do I believe he had his days mixed up, and no way would I think Susan would allow two tinys boys to camp in those conditions, what an absolute ridiculous story.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 18, 2009, 05:08:41 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

Friends and neighbors hold vigil for missing West Valley woman
December 10th, 2009 @ 10:15pm


<snipped>

Neighbor talks about conversation with Josh Powell

Earlier in the day Thursday, the Powells' neighbor talked to KSL News about a conversation he had with Josh Powell Wednesday night.

Tim Peterson said Josh asked him for a ride to pick up his van, which police had searched. He said Josh's behavior was odd and he didn't know what to make of it.

"She's a friend of ours, and this is tearing us up," Peterson said.

Like many others, Peterson has a lot of questions about Susan's disappearance, and he didn't get any answers from Josh.

"He'd only had like six hours of sleep in two days, and so he was just kind of in a haze. He just really wasn't himself," Peterson said. "Anytime we mentioned Susan, he didn't, he wouldn't respond. He wouldn't talk about her."

But Peterson said Josh did talk about having to buy new clothes and a new quilt. He said Josh also told him he last saw Susan just after midnight Monday, when he left with his two young boys to go camping  ...

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8986844


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 18, 2009, 05:10:24 PM
Ok here is the full weird interview.  He says he has to go, heads to the house but instead of going up the stairs goes past them to where his house number is , glances over his shoulder at the cameras, kicks or covers something up with snow right under the house number, glances over at cameras again, then goes into the house.

Thoughts?

http://www.fox13now.com/videobeta/?watchId=9e25538d-d839-400a-8b3a-6797d6ef0121
What an azz, I'm not sure what he was doing, maybe pretending to be all disoriented from grief.

I don't see anything in particular on the ground.  This guy is a freak IMO. 

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/JoshatHouse2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/JoshatHouse3.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/JoshatHouse.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 05:17:26 PM
He is a freak, I agree, and I would love to know why he felt it necessary to tell the neighbor he needed to buy new clothes and a quilt, was he dropping a hint about a quilt and where his wife is somewhere in a quilt?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 18, 2009, 05:29:22 PM
He is a freak, I agree, and I would love to know why he felt it necessary to tell the neighbor he needed to buy new clothes and a quilt, was he dropping a hint about a quilt and where his wife is somewhere in a quilt?

Josh enjoys antagonizing people I think he said that to him for a reaction..jmo ..I have a feeling he may have placed Susans body where it will never be found....he reminds to much of Drew Peterson in his own way.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 05:32:25 PM
He is a freak, I agree, and I would love to know why he felt it necessary to tell the neighbor he needed to buy new clothes and a quilt, was he dropping a hint about a quilt and where his wife is somewhere in a quilt?

Josh enjoys antagonizing people I think he said that to him for a reaction..jmo ..I have a feeling he may have placed Susans body where it will never be found....he reminds to much of Drew Peterson in his own way.
You could be right, waiting to see a reaction. I see a combination of a couple of husbands that killed their wives in Josh  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I sure hope that isn't the case, that Susan won't be found.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 18, 2009, 05:59:15 PM
I think Susan's body will be found.  Josh is smart but I don't think that smart.  They will find her out in the woods near where they were "camping". 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on December 18, 2009, 07:10:04 PM
By now his vehicle has a GPS unit attached, his phones are tapped, his freedom is short.
His friends are also Susans friends and they will pass on what they know.

Who is caring for the children?



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 07:13:28 PM
By now his vehicle has a GPS unit attached, his phones are tapped, his freedom is short.
His friends are also Susans friends and they will pass on what they know.

Who is caring for the children?



During Susan's family presser yesterday that was asked.  They stated the kids are going between Josh and Josh's sister house to be cared for right now.  His sister has kids in the same age range as the boys.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on December 18, 2009, 07:29:04 PM
By now his vehicle has a GPS unit attached, his phones are tapped, his freedom is short.
His friends are also Susans friends and they will pass on what they know.

Who is caring for the children?



During Susan's family presser yesterday that was asked.  They stated the kids are going between Josh and Josh's sister house to be cared for right now.  His sister has kids in the same age range as the boys.

Oh thanks NR....sounds like a great idea that his sister and BIL are over-seeing the kids and that the kids are with family. 

 ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 18, 2009, 07:37:43 PM
He is a freak, I agree, and I would love to know why he felt it necessary to tell the neighbor he needed to buy new clothes and a quilt, was he dropping a hint about a quilt and where his wife is somewhere in a quilt?

In my opinion ... damage control was where it was at.

Maybe Josh realized that he might have been caught on security cameras purchasing a quilt to wrap Susan in.  Maybe the new clothes replace those he was wearing when something bad happened and/or ... when he was disposing of her body.

On the other hand ... maybe the quilt was puchased to replace one taken from the home.

It would be interesting to know if a quilt was in his vehicle when he returned home.  It would be interesting if his original clothes were in the vehicle.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 07:41:57 PM
He is a freak, I agree, and I would love to know why he felt it necessary to tell the neighbor he needed to buy new clothes and a quilt, was he dropping a hint about a quilt and where his wife is somewhere in a quilt?

In my opinion ... damage control was where it was at.

Maybe Josh realized that he might have been caught on security cameras purchasing a quilt to wrap Susan in.  Maybe the new clothes replace those he was wearing when something bad happened and/or ... when he was disposing of her body.

On the other hand ... maybe the quilt was puchased to replace one taken from the home.

It would be interesting to know if a quilt was in his vehicle when he returned home.  It would be interesting if his original clothes were in the vehicle.

Janet

That makes sense. Also I'm sure that LE has checked all of Susan's coats, because she wouldn't have left the home without a coat. Since the purse and cell phone were still there, I'm sure Josh didn't think to take a coat along.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 07:53:14 PM
Police still puzzled over Utah mom's disappearance
By BROCK VERGAKIS (AP) – 1 hour ago

SALT LAKE CITY — Josh Powell says he packed up the family van in the middle of a freezing night on Dec. 7 and took his two young boys on an impromptu camping trip in the snow-covered wilderness. He said his wife stayed home and went to bed.

She has not been heard from since. Susan Powell never showed up at her stockbroker job the next morning — her keys, purse and cell phone all left at home. The husband was a no-show at work as well, saying he lost track of what day it was during the camping excursion.

Police are mystified by Josh Powell's story and have named him as the sole person of interest in his wife's disappearance. Authorities suspect foul play, and they say the husband's reluctance to provide basic information about his whereabouts that night has only fueled their suspicion.

"Usually something will surface within a few hours or a day, and everybody goes home happy and singing Kumbaya," said Tom McLachlan, a police captain in West Valley City, a suburb of Salt Lake City. "On this one, that's not happening, and we're very concerned about that."

Police have twice searched the Powell home and the family van, but have not said what they found. They also took DNA samples from Josh Powell and other unidentified family members. Susan Powell's father said police found a wet spot in the home being dried by two fans, but investigators have declined to comment on that.

Susan Powell's family has spent days giving interviews to media outlets around the country to keep her face in front of the public. Josh Powell, 33, has barely spoken publicly and has hired a criminal defense attorney who often defends high-profile clients. And when he has appeared in public, he often looks haggard and downcast.

"I didn't do anything. I mean I, I don't know where she's at. I, I don't even know where to start looking," Josh Powell told KUTV in Salt Lake City on Dec. 10.

Powell's story for the timeline of events the evening of Dec. 7 has baffled authorities.

He said he took the boys, ages 2 and 4, on the camping trip after midnight, even though he had to be at work a few hours later at his trucking company job. He said he forgot what day it was when he went camping because he did not go to church the day before.

Powell said the campsite was in a vast, mountainous area on the Pony Express Trail, making it difficult for authorities to search the area. Police say Powell has not said exactly where on the trail he spent the night in his van, although his attorney said Friday he's never been asked to take police to the site.

His kids never made it to day care that day, prompting workers at the center to call family members asking where the children were.

When he returned home on the evening of Dec. 7, he found his window broken in by police and his 28-year-old wife missing.

Authorities feared the Powells might have been poisoned by carbon monoxide after they all vanished on the same day.

Police have said the couple's 4-year-old told investigators the three did go camping, but police have been unable to verify the trip because the campsite area has been covered in snow.

Family and friends say it would be completely out of character for Susan Powell to wander off without contacting anyone, particularly without her purse, cell phone and keys. Each of those items was found in the Powells' locked home when police entered.

Charles Cox, Susan Powell's father, says it's not uncommon for his daughter and her husband to go to bed late. He also says Josh is known to lose track of time and show up hours late to events.

"He gets lost in what he's doing," he said. "And he would think nothing of, 'Oh, let's go get something.' If he could do something in the middle of the night and thought he'd wanted to do it, he'd do it. Does it sound totally out there? No, not based on his personality."

However, family and friends have said Susan Powell never would have let her children go camping at that hour.

"We know that Susan is an excellent mother and would not have tolerated her children being taken out of the home after midnight to go camping in dangerously cold conditions," said Shelby Gifford, a family friend who is acting as spokeswoman for Susan Powell's parents.

Gifford's comments about the late-night camping trip hint at what other friends have said — that Susan and Josh's marriage was strained.

Court records show that the family filed for bankruptcy in 2007. Police have reportedly obtained a notebook or journal from Susan Powell's office that describes an alleged threat made by her husband about a year ago.

"I just know that every family and every couple has stress. I do know that there have been points where she has felt controlled, but I know in the last year, she has kind of freed herself from some of that," said Mindy Guzman, a friend who took some of the last known photos of Susan and Josh at a church breakfast on Dec 5.

Susan Powell went to Mormon services the next day without her husband. That night, she had dinner with family friend JoVonna Owings at the house. Powell disappeared the next day.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CM0OP00


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 07:55:19 PM
Full uncut interview mentioned in teh article above

http://connect2utah.com/content/video/?cid=67882


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 08:07:30 PM

Slideshow
Susan Powell WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) – Police are building a case to help solve the disappearance of Susan Powell.

But authorities won’t say who they’re targeting.

Yesterday, police searched the home of her husband Josh Powell for the second time. In addition, police also used a search warrant to look at Powell’s van last week.

But credit card transactions and cell phone records may offer clues for police.

Police won't say if those records they’re seeking belong to Josh. But historically those kinds of record searches help police.

"What that does especially a financial account or a cell phone record it allows us to get a better picture of what went on at what time and what amount was spent at what locations,” said police Captain Tom McLachlan.

He did acknowledge that surveillance videos at convenience stores in West Valley are also being gathered by investigators.

"I'm sure that that has been done what results are I'm not aware of,” he said.

Mitzi Dodge said the Powell's came to the store she manages often and she's anxious to help out.


"The surveillance tape is available, the cops can come and pick that up if they need to look at the surveillance tape,” she said.

Police won't say what or who they're looking for on those tapes.

But police subpoenaed ABC4 news for an interview with Josh Powell.

"We need that to review and not have the edited information,” he said.

Josh Powell claimed he went camping with the boys late Sunday night while Susan was sleeping at the home.

It wasn't until three o'clock Monday afternoon that Susan's friend Kiiri Hellewell called him to say she's missing.

And she told ABC4 News Josh showed up at the house two hours later.


Those bank and cell phone records could tell police where a person who disappeared for nearly a day actually went.

And when asked if police were building a case against Josh Powell McLachlan answered this way: “We are building a case.”

http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Police-building-case-to-solve-missing-mom-mystery/SQsurPy820CQZwWdoCrDlw.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 08:12:34 PM
ABC4 interview from Dec 11

http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Police-say-husband-Person-of-Interest/Betj-Tpn5kOnRDFMiGeogQ.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 08:23:58 PM
article from Dec 9

WEST VALLEY CITY Utah (ABC4 News) – It’s been three days and there is still no sign of Susan Powell.

The married mother of two disappeared Sunday night and police remain puzzled over her disappearance.

“We don’t even know if a crime has been committed,” said Captain T. McLachlan of the West Valley police department.

But her close friends fear the worse.

"We just know something bad has happened because she would never leave her children,” said Kiirsi Hellewell.

Hellewell said she last saw Powell Sunday walking home from church.

The next day she was gone.

“We can't get any sleep,” she said. “We're all sick to our stomachs."

Hellewell said Powell was last seen Sunday night during a family dinner with other friends.

But the next day she said Powell failed to drop her kids off with daycare.

And then she didn't show up for work as well.

"She would never go anywhere without notifying her work,” Hellewell said. “She would told them, called in sick would have called her daycare provider who is very close they're good friends."

Police came to the Powell home Monday morning and when no one answered they feared carbon monoxide poisoning.

They busted out a window to look inside but there was no sign of anyone.

"We're very, very worried, trying to get the word out as much as we can,” Hellewell said.

Monday afternoon at three, she spoke with Josh by phone.

She said he was driving around with the kids.

Hellewell told him about Susan and that he needed to come home.

According to Hellewell it took him two hours to get home.


"There's no words to describe what’s happening,” she said. “You hear about this stuff happening and it’s awful but at least it’s not us until it’s your best friend.”

Hellewell said the Powell family moved into the neighborhood five years ago.

Police said there have never been any calls of domestic violence.

But Hellewell said Susan Powell confided in her last year that she was thinking about a divorce.

“But she said things have been working out lately,” Hellewell said.

http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/West-Valley-woman-missing/a7vyloVCmkmkg_qSEhv08w.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 08:35:24 PM
Josh said he was on his way home when he got a call that Susan was missing.

The friend said she got ahold of Josh at 3:00 on Monday and it took him 2 hours to get home (5:00)

Josh said in the interview he got home at went to bed at 5:30. 

Your wife is missing and you go to bed?

When I googled from their home to Pony Express Tooele there are two routes.  The Northern route is 61.3 miles estimated driving time is 1 hour 50 minutes

The East route is 74.5 miles estimated drive time 2 hours 7 mins.

Either way getting home in two hours would fit regardless of the route he took if in fact he was telling the truth about where he went.  What does not make sense is that he said he was already on his way home when he got the call.  How much further away was he truly then?  Anyone know that area and the campsites down in that area?

Here are the two possible routes, not saying these are the only ones.

The east route gets pretty close to Utah Lake.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: texasmom on December 18, 2009, 08:50:35 PM


Thanks for all of the information Northern Rose!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 08:56:50 PM


Thanks for all of the information Northern Rose!   ::MonkeyCool::

How the heck do you not know where you went camping?

I found the following and will map them and see what happens

Settlement Canyon

South on Tooele’s Main St. and turn left onto Settlement Canyon after 500 So. RV pads reserved by calling 435-882-9041 Tents first come first serve

 

Middle Canyon

From Tooele City’s Main St. turn east onto Vine. Proceed one mile passing Oquirrh Hills 18 hole Golf Course. Continue East. No hook ups or bathrooms available. There are tables and barbecue pits.

 

Grantsville Reservoir

Located approx three miles south of Grantsville on a sloping plain east of the Stansbury Mt. foothills. There is no fee at the reservoir.

 

South Willow Canyon

West on Grantsville’s Main St. and turn left onto Mormon Trail Road. Drive four miles west. Upper Narrow can be reserved in advanced at $30.00 for 30 people or $55.00 for up to 50 people. Small groups pay $8.00 per night.

 

Clover Springs

From Tooele tale SR-36 south for 15 miles Turn right on Hwy SR-199 and proceed west toward Dugway Proving Grounds. Drive eight more miles and campsite is on your left. Camping is free.

Little Valley

This is a favorite of four-wheelers. From Tooele take SR-36 (Main St.) South for 35 miles. Turn right on Lookout Pass Road (also called Pony Express Road) Go seven miles to campsite.

 

Simpson Springs

From Little Valley continue west on Lookout pass Road for approx 20 miles.

 

Silver Mountain/Floating Island

Camp among the many caves of Silver Island Mountain. Ancient Fremont people reportedly lived in these caves. Take Exit 2 off 1-80 near Wendover and head toward Danger Cave State Park. Take a right after a couple of miles look for the Silver Mt. Loop 30 miles.

 

Vernon Reservoir

This reservoir has a reputation for good fishing. This site is on the southern end of the Wasatch-Cache National Forest. Take SR-36 (Main St.) south of Vernon. As you leave Vernon the road curves to the east. Turn right after and the curve, go south on a road called Benmore. Continue seven miles. Take a left to head east for about one mile.

 http://www.tooelechamber.com/tooele-utah-chamber_tooele-utah-camping.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 09:08:52 PM
Settlement Canyon

South on Tooele’s Main St. and turn left onto Settlement Canyon after 500 So. RV pads reserved by calling 435-882-9041 Tents first come first serve

Distance 29.2 miles 49 minutes travel time. Very close to a resouvior.






Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 18, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
Thanks Northern Rose  ::MonkeyCool:: Who goes to bed when their spouse is missing?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 09:20:58 PM
Thanks Northern Rose  ::MonkeyCool:: Who goes to bed when their spouse is missing?

Apparently Josh does.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 09:26:04 PM
Middle Canyon

From Tooele City’s Main St. turn east onto Vine. Proceed one mile passing Oquirrh Hills 18 hole Golf Course. Continue East. No hook ups or bathrooms available. There are tables and barbecue pits.

30.1 miles est travel time 55 mins.  Drives alone a river and close to a lard and small pond.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 09:36:33 PM
Grantsville Reservoir

Located approx three miles south of Grantsville on a sloping plain east of the Stansbury Mt. foothills. There is no fee at the reservoir.

31.9 miles est travel time 59 minutes.  Yup more water.  In doing this one I noticed that there are old mines around there.  Specifically the Brigham Canyon Mine.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 09:46:57 PM
South Willow Canyon

West on Grantsville’s Main St. and turn left onto Mormon Trail Road. Drive four miles west. Upper Narrow can be reserved in advanced at $30.00 for 30 people or $55.00 for up to 50 people. Small groups pay $8.00 per night.

33.9 miles 59 minutes.  Water there as well.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2009, 11:37:44 PM
Police serve subpoena at ABC 4 studios

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Early Friday evening a detective with the West Valley Police Department served a subpoena to ABC 4 News Director Matt Malyn. The subpoena's language broadly asked for video related to the Susan Powell missing person case. But detectives only seemed interested in one tape containing the original interview with Josh Powell conducted last week on the steps of the Powell family home in West Valley. In fact, police also delivered similar subpoenas at the other TV news organizations in Salt Lake City seeking raw tape of their interviews with Powell.

Police would not say why they want to hear everything Powell said to the media. Powell has been called a "person of interest" in the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell.

Josh Powell claims he last saw her late Sunday night, December 6. He said she went to bed and he took camping their two young sons -- ages 4 and 2. Susan's family has questioned that story saying Susan was too good a mother to allow the boys to go camping in freezing temperatures as a major winter storm was hitting Northern Utah.

A family friend said she called Josh Powell that next day to ask where he was and to say his wife was missing. He returned home with the children around 5:00 p.m.

Detectives and forensic teams have twice searched the Powell home. The latest search warrant was executed Thursday afternoon. An ABC 4 camera recorded detectives removing something in brown paper sacks, but they would not say what was in those sacks.

On Friday a police spokesman reiterated their desire to question Josh Powell again. But, he said the manner of questioning proposed by Powell's criminal defense attorney is unacceptable. ABC 4 has also learned that Powell was asked to take a polygraph test.

Meanwhile friends of Susan continue to talk to the media. JoVonna Owings and Kiirsi Hellewell both appeared on ABC 4 Friday in an interview with Marti Skold. Though Facebook, Hellewell has assembled a small army of people willing to volunteer to do whatever it takes to find Susan. But for now, there is little for them to do other than pass out flyers and say prayers. With no clues to Susan's whereabouts, at this point a search is impractical.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Police-serve-subpoena-at-ABC-4-studios/49hPU70Ynk2DyPCbEJpQsg.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on December 19, 2009, 12:00:12 AM
http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/#5872/style=auto&lat=40.815685&lon=-111.654311&z=9&pid=5874/5003/0.6002=
q:west+valley+city+utah:lat:35.9372419489596:long:-75.7101110000013&1.6002=
q:north+carolina:lat:41.3481432647339:long:-82.103720639386&o=&a=0:1&p=c

what if he said i went west, but really went north or east
dont know how many of you, have been to that area around, salt lake
its very unforgiving, even in good weather it would take some heavy
duty searching to find a body. all heavy wilderness, around, salt lake
and the salt lake burbs, within 25 mile, you could get into trouble,in good
weather, im thinking josh knows the area well enough, to.....



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 19, 2009, 09:30:32 AM
http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=67911

Subpoenas, Lack Of Timeline, In Powell Case

Reported by:
Friday, Dec 18, 2009 @07:57pm

WEST VALLEY CITY - Subpoenas have been issued for video of Joshua Powell, since his wife Susan vanished. West Valley Police Captain T. Mc Lachlan said investigators want to hear all the statements Powell has made to the press.

Channel 2 was served late Friday, and in advance of the subpoena, posted an entire interview with Joshua on its website, connect2utah.com.

Joshua has been named a "person of interest" by police in his wife's disappearance. He agreed to provide a DNA sample to investigators, the Powell's home has been searched, as has the family's van.

But as days have dragged on, there has been no sign of Susan.

Friday, 2News asked about a more complete timeline of Joshua's movements when Susan went missing, the period when he said he left the family home around midnight, December 7th, and did not return until roughly 5 pm the same day.

Joshua told reporters and police he went camping in frigid weather with the Powell's two young sons, in a remote area of Tooele County.

But his exact movements during the 17 hour span remain unknown.

"His timeline is still unverified," Capt. Mc Lachlan told 2News Friday, while hinting Powell's lawyer Scott Williams has objected to that line of questioning.

"His attorney has proposed a method of questioning that is totally unacceptable to us," he said.

A message left with Williams' office was not returned.

Meantime, 2News video of a campground, in the area where Joshua said he took his boys, captured the desolate nature of the area. To get there, photographer Jerry Merrick said you must travel more than 20 miles on a dirt road.

A campground visitor register did not have Joshua Powell's signature.

Investigators took police dogs to the area, but it's unknown what, if anything, they found.

2News also asked about whether Joshua Powell made cell phone calls or had financial transactions, during the time he was away from the family home.

Mc Lachlan would not comment, saying those matters were important to the investigation.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 19, 2009, 09:35:49 AM
He is a freak, I agree, and I would love to know why he felt it necessary to tell the neighbor he needed to buy new clothes and a quilt, was he dropping a hint about a quilt and where his wife is somewhere in a quilt?

Josh enjoys antagonizing people I think he said that to him for a reaction..jmo ..I have a feeling he may have placed Susans body where it will never be found....he reminds to much of Drew Peterson in his own way.

I disagree. IMO, Josh isn't that 'bright'.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 19, 2009, 09:36:37 AM
I think Susan's body will be found.  Josh is smart but I don't think that smart.  They will find her out in the woods near where they were "camping". 

bump lol ;)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 05:40:30 PM
Friend defends husband of missing Utah woman

SALT LAKE CITY — A friend is speaking out in support of Josh Powell, the man police consider the sole person of interest in the disappearance of his wife.

Wayne Hamberg of Salt Lake City says Josh and Susan Powell had problems like any other couple, but he never saw any signs of domestic violence or serious issues.

He says Josh Powell hired a defense attorney because he "felt so overwhelmed." Hamberg says he does not believe that's an admission of guilt.

Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 7. Josh Powell says he last saw her early that day when he took their two young sons on a camping trip and left the home.

Meanwhile, two Salt Lake City television stations confirmed that West Valley City police have asked for copies of the stations' interviews with Josh Powell.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CMISRO0


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 05:42:02 PM
TV stations subpoenaed in Susan Powell case

WEST VALLEY CITY — Authorities have requested all video footage of the husband of missing Utahn Susan Powell from local television stations.

West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan declined to elaborate what they're looking for in the footage. Most Salt Lake City-area TV stations received the subpoenas Friday.

Susan Powell was last seen Dec. 6 at her house, 6254 W. Sarah Circle. Her husband, Josh Powell, told police he went camping about midnight that night with his two sons, ages 2 and 4, in a remote part of Tooele County along the Pony Express Trail. He failed to show up to work the next day.

Police have named Josh Powell a person of interest in her disappearance.

McLachlan declined Saturday to discuss the investigation. He confirmed that prosecutors twice filed warrants to search the Powell house, one warrant to search the family's car and one search warrant to obtain DNA from Josh Powell.

Meantime, family members have scheduled a candlelight vigil for Susan Powell in her Tacoma, Wash. area hometown.

The vigil will begin at 7 p.m. Sunday at the Ridgecrest building of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 12407 Military Road East, Puyallup, Wash.


"We invite everyone to join us and request that those in attendance bring a candle or two to light in Susan's behalf," said Shelby Gifford, spokeswoman for Susan Powell's father. "We will be meeting outdoors so we encourage you to dress warmly."

Gifford confirmed Saturday that Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, has only spoken to his son-in-law twice since the 28-year-old broker for Wells Fargo Financial went missing — once on the telephone and once in person when Cox flew to Utah to assist in the investigation.

Susan Powell was a devoted mother to her two young sons, and would not intentionally leave the family, Gifford said.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705352732/TV-stations-subpoenaed-in-Susan-Powell-case.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 05:44:34 PM
Friend: Joshua Powell 'Emotionally Drained' over Missing Wife

Ten days after his wife, Susan, went missing, Joshua Powell knocked on a friend's door in tears. For the next hour, he sat on Wayne Hamberg's living room sofa, sobbing, but saying nothing about Susan's mysterious disappearance on Dec. 6.

"He was so distressed, so despondent, so overwhelmed," says Powell's friend Wayne Hamberg, who met the 29-year-old Web site programmer about a year ago at a Salt Lake City computer club gathering.

"The reason he's not talking to police is he's just shut down," Hamberg, 49, a software engineer says about Joshua. "He's so emotionally drained and everybody's attacking him, making him out to be a Mark Hacking or a Scott Peterson. The Josh I know is not some kind of evil guy. I don't believe that's he's suicidal or anything like that, but right now, I don't think he's capable of doing much more than tying his own shoelaces."

Powell, whom police consider a person of interest (there have been no suspects named) in the case, has been under intense scrutiny since he told police he went on a midnight LINK "/people/article/0,,20331686,00.html" "desert camping trip"] in freezing conditions with his two sons, ages 2 and 4, on the night Susan Powell was last seen. Thus far, he has refused to retrace his whereabouts or give investigators an in-depth interview about the night's events.


Family Against Him
"I told him Tuesday night, when he came to see me, not to say anything to me about the circumstances, only to talk to his attorney," says Hamberg. "I want to be his friend, not somebody snooping around for a scoop. I'm there to support him and I'd like to think that he's innocent. I'd like to think that of all of my friends."

Hamberg noticed that Powell was thin and pale, as though he hadn't eaten in days. "I offered to make him dinner, but he refused, saying he just had no appetite for food – that it was tasteless," Hamberg says. "I gave him a hug, then he just sat on the couch and cried. He said the only thing keeping him going right now was his two boys. He's latched on to them as his sole mental support because even some of his own family members have turned on him now."

Although Hamberg has never met Susan Powell, he says Joshua talked about her occasionally during their twice-monthly club gatherings. "Usually, when he had something to say, it was nice," he says. "I do know, though, that he thought Susan was overspending. So there were some financial problems. But that happens to a lot of families."


Needs Support
During their visit at Hamberg's house, Joshua Powell told his friend that he'd been fired from his job because of all the bad publicity, and that the only reason he'd hired an attorney was because "he was so overwhelmed and needed some help."

"He didn't feel that anybody was sticking up for him," says Hamberg. "I've never seen a guy look so beaten down and withdrawn. I think the reason he's not commenting is because right now, he's just incapable of it – not because he has something to hide."

Whether Powell had something to do with his wife's disappearance or not, "he needs some emotional support right now and I'm there for him," says Hamberg. "I don't want to think about whether he could have done the unspeakable. I don't even go there. But I'm worried about Josh as a person. He could really use some friends right now."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20332053,00.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 19, 2009, 06:03:05 PM
Friend defends husband of missing Utah woman

SALT LAKE CITY — A friend is speaking out in support of Josh Powell, the man police consider the sole person of interest in the disappearance of his wife.

Wayne Hamberg of Salt Lake City says Josh and Susan Powell had problems like any other couple, but he never saw any signs of domestic violence or serious issues.

He says Josh Powell hired a defense attorney because he "felt so overwhelmed." Hamberg says he does not believe that's an admission of guilt.

Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 7. Josh Powell says he last saw her early that day when he took their two young sons on a camping trip and left the home.

Meanwhile, two Salt Lake City television stations confirmed that West Valley City police have asked for copies of the stations' interviews with Josh Powell.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CMISRO0
Thanks, that Wayne guy is making comments defending him on one of the comment sections I have noticed. I thought it was Josh, pretending to be a friend, guess not.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 19, 2009, 10:12:22 PM
This case is so frustrating.  So many aspects of Josh Powell's story is unbelieveable.  There is no way he lost track of what day it was.  If Susan Powell was alive when he made the decision to leave the home after midnight with his sons for the "camping" trip in below freezing condition ... she would have reminded him that they both had to be at work in a few hours.  In other words ... the "camping" trip would not have happened.

Do those in charge of the investigation belong to the Mormom church?  In the Mormom faith ... what is a woman's role in a marriage?  What consequences are justified if she fails to conform to that role.

If this investigation was being held anywhere but Utah ... I would not have this hinky feeling.

Why was Josh's vehicle returned to him within three days.  Confiscated vehicles in other missing person cases on the SM forum required so much more time for forensic testing?

Also ... I realize that Susan Powell's father is between a rock and a hard place in regards to Josh Powell ... the father of his grandsons.  However ... it is beyond me how Cox can uphold Josh to the extent that he does.  In my opinion ... when all is considered ... it is a  betrayal to his daughter.

Maybe my perspective is all wrong.

Janet



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 10:35:13 PM
Geraldo is covering this tonight and has the Cox's on.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 19, 2009, 10:42:19 PM
Nothern Rose

I do not receive the Fox Channel.  Could you please provide an overview.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:13:54 PM
Nothern Rose

I do not receive the Fox Channel.  Could you please provide an overview.

Thanks

Janet

I caught it over half way in as hubby was going through channels.  What I caught was

Josh is sole person of interest
Police required a judges order for Josh to submit DNA as he refused to do it willingly
Josh declined going out to camping area as well as search for Susan
Chuck Cox is holding out hope that Susan will be found.

Geraldo summed it up as Josh made up the story on the fly as a sane person would not come up with the bull story he did.

I will watch the later broadcast of Geraldo to see what else I may have missed


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:16:50 PM
I want to add one more thing from Geraldo, they dug into the bankruptcy filing and they found that Josh made very little money in previous years, one year he barely made $3,000.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:20:50 PM
Police Still Puzzled Over Utah Mom's Disappearance

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - Josh Powell says he packed up the family van in the middle of a freezing night on Dec. 7 and took his two young boys on an impromptu camping trip in the snow-covered wilderness. He said his wife stayed home and went to bed. She has not been heard from since. Susan Powell never showed up at her stockbroker job the next morning -- her keys, purse and cell phone all left at home. The husband was a no-show at work as well, saying he lost track of what day it was during the camping excursion.

Police are mystified by Josh Powell's story and have named him as the sole person of interest in his wife's disappearance. Authorities suspect foul play, and they say the husband's reluctance to provide basic information about his whereabouts that night has only fueled their suspicion.

"Usually something will surface within a few hours or a day, and everybody goes home happy and singing Kumbaya," said Tom McLachlan, a police captain in West Valley City, a suburb of Salt Lake City. "On this one, that's not happening, and we're very concerned about that."

Police have twice searched the Powell home and the family van, but have not said what they found. They also took DNA samples from Josh Powell and other unidentified family members. Susan Powell's father said police found a wet spot in the home being dried by two fans, but investigators have declined to comment on that.

Susan Powell's family has spent days giving interviews to media outlets around the country to keep her face in front of the public. Josh Powell, 33, has barely spoken publicly and has hired a criminal defense attorney who often defends high-profile clients. And when he has appeared in public, he often looks haggard and downcast.

Powell's story for the timeline of events the evening of Dec. 7 has baffled authorities.

He said he took the boys, ages 2 and 4, on the camping trip after midnight, even though he had to be at work a few hours later at his trucking company job. He said he forgot what day it was when he went camping because he did not go to church the day before.

Powell said the campsite was in a vast, mountainous area on the Pony Express Trail, making it difficult for authorities to search the area. Police say Powell has not said exactly where on the trail he spent the night in his van, although his attorney said Friday he's never been asked to take police to the site.

His kids never made it to day care that day, prompting workers at the center to call family members asking where the children were.

When he returned home on the evening of Dec. 7, he found his window broken in by police and his 28-year-old wife missing.

Authorities feared the Powells might have been poisoned by carbon monoxide after they all vanished on the same day.

Police have said the couple's 4-year-old told investigators the three did go camping, but police have been unable to verify the trip because the campsite area has been covered in snow.

Family and friends say it would be completely out of character for Susan Powell to wander off without contacting anyone, particularly without her purse, cell phone and keys. Each of those items was found in the Powells' locked home when police entered.

Charles Cox, Susan Powell's father, says it's not uncommon for his daughter and her husband to go to bed late. He also says Josh is known to lose track of time and show up hours late to events.

"He gets lost in what he's doing," he said. "And he would think nothing of, 'Oh, let's go get something.' If he could do something in the middle of the night and thought he'd wanted to do it, he'd do it. Does it doesn't sound totally out there? No, not based on his personality."

However, family and friends have said Susan Powell never would have let her children go camping at that hour.

"We know that Susan is an excellent mother and would not have tolerated her children being taken out of the home after midnight to go camping in dangerously cold conditions," said Shelby Gifford, a family friend who is acting as spokeswoman for Susan Powell's parents.

Gifford's comments about the late-night camping trip hint at what other friends have said -- that Susan and Josh's marriage was strained.

Court records show that the family filed for bankruptcy in 2007. Police have reportedly obtained a notebook or journal from Susan Powell's office that describes an alleged threat made by her husband about a year ago.

"I just know that every family and every couple has stress. I do know that there have been points where she has felt controlled, but I know in the last year, she has kind of freed herself from some of that," said Mindy Guzman, a friend who took some of the last known photos of Susan and Josh at a church breakfast on Dec 5.

Susan Powell went to Mormon services the next day without her husband. That night, she had dinner with family friend JoVonna Owings at the house. Powell disappeared the next day.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-police-puzzled-utah-moms-disappearance,0,3590060.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 19, 2009, 11:21:20 PM
Thanks Northern Rose 

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:23:25 PM
The video with the article states that police found a carpet cleaner in the home and early on in the investigation Josh rented a car and disappeared for 24 hours., police have no idea where he went.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-police-puzzled-utah-moms-disappearance,0,3590060.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:25:53 PM
News Nightline Video coverage of Susan Powell's disappearance

December 19, 2009 - If you've been following the Susan Powell "missing persons" case, you'll want to see ABC News Nightline's "Mom Vanished Without a Trace" video.

Excerpts:

"It's a story line that's become tragically familiar. A young mother vanishes leaving behind her belongings and her loving children."

"And as the investigation develops it’s her husband who soon becomes a person of interest."

"Now friends and family of Susan Powell, the mother of two young boys, are being forced to confront the possibility that she might never come back and the reason may be very close to home."

"Susan Powell vanished without a trace. As the facts come out the family is overcome with emotion, saying, 'Our reaction is it breaks our hearts but we want support'."

"The young mother known as loving and loyal left behind clues that have done little more than baffle friends and family and even police."  More (Video) » http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1O8GQSagC8

Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 7. Native of Puyallup, Washington, Susan most recently lived in West Valley City, Utah. Her many friends and family members have tirelessly passed out fliers and are doing everything they can possibly think of to help find her.

While their hopes may dwindle as time passes, they are not giving up hope of finding Susan alive. Susan's family will hold a candlelight vigil tomorrow night in Puyallup, Washington. Friends and neighbors in West Valley, Utah, hope they can organize a vigil there to coincide with the vigil in Washington.

Frustration mounts as Susan's husband, Joshua Powell, the last person to see her, is not cooperating with police and is not forthcoming with information about his missing wife. Actions police say have hindered their search in finding Susan.

His actions over the past two weeks have made even his supporters question whether he knows more than he's saying.

Police are now considering this case a crime. Susan's brother-in-law, Kirk Graves, believes Joshua could be arrested as early as next week in the case of Susan's disappearance.

http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2009m12d19-Susan-Powell--Nightline-video-coverage-of-her-disappearnce-Mom-vanished-without-a-trace


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:28:13 PM
Susan Powell Update: Carpet cleaning machine found, husband rents car then disappears, more

New information has surfaced in the case of missing Utah mom, Susan Powell, 28 (detailed below). Susan's husband, Joshua Powell, was the last person to see her before she disappeared after midnight Dec. 7. She's been missing for nearly two weeks and hopes of finding her alive are dwindling.

West Valley City Police Captain, Tom McLachlan, said, “Usually something will surface within a few hours or a day, and everybody goes home happy and singing Kumbaya … on this one, that's not happening, and we're very concerned about that.”

Josh Powell is the only person of interest in this case and police suspect foul play. Josh’s actions seem to speak louder than words these days – though his words have been few, according to police.

Carpet cleaning machine found: Police found a carpet cleaning machine inside the house last week when Susan first went missing and during the early stages of the investigation. While police could not comment about the reported wet spot they did confirm a carpet cleaning machine was found in the home, according to Fox 13 News.

Josh rented a car, then went missing for 24 hours: Josh rented a car and briefly disappeared himself, according to Fox 13 News. Detectives said Josh wasn’t seen or heard from for nearly 24 hours. They will not go into detail about the car rental but did say that Josh rented the car when they seized the van to search it. They would not comment when asked how many miles were put on the rental car, which, Fox News reported, could be significant.

Police have not asked Josh to take them to the campsite: The campsite where Josh reportedly took his two sons on an overnight camping trip has yet to be found. Fox News reported that Powell told police the campsite was in a vast, mountainous area on the Pony Express Trail, making it difficult for authorities to search the area.

Police say Powell has not said exactly where on the trail he spent the night in his van, although his attorney said Friday he's never been asked to take police to the site.

Joshua’s behavior peculiar? Some say yes, some say no: Susan Powell’s father, Charles Cox, said it wouldn’t be uncommon for Josh to lose track of time or to do something at the spur of the moment. He said, “If he could do something in the middle of the night and thought he'd wanted to do it, he'd do it. Does it doesn't [sic] sound totally out there? No, not based on his personality."

However, family and friends continue to say that Susan Powell never would have let her children go camping at that hour.

Shelby Gifford, a family friend and spokeswoman for Susan’s parents, said, "We know that Susan is an excellent mother and would not have tolerated her children being taken out of the home after midnight to go camping in dangerously cold conditions," hinting, according to Fox News, that Susan and Josh's marriage was strained.

Joshua’s friend, Wayne Hamberg, doesn’t think Josh appeared to be evading police in video coverage of the case, as others had alleged.

Testing for blood in Powell home: Police were asked if lights or chemical were used in the house to detect blood. McLachlan responded, “I would assume that would occur. I cannot say whether that did or did not occur”.

Five search warrants served in the case: Five search warrants have reportedly been served in this case - three on the Powell home, one for Josh’s DNA, and one for the family van. Police cannot be specific about the search warrants or what they have found.

Susan’s notebook or journal found: According to Fox News, a notebook or journal was reportedly found at Susan’s work with entries describing an alleged threat made by her husband about a year ago.

Friends hope to spread word outside Utah and Washington: Susan’s best friend, Kiirsi, said they are going to see if they can get fliers into the hands of truckers that are traveling across state lines so they can post them in rest areas.

Support for friends and family: Tomorrow night, Sunday Dec. 20, Susan’s family is planning a candlelight vigil in Puyallup, Washington, Susan’s home town. Friends and neighbors are trying to schedule one in West Valley, Utah to coincide with the family candlelight vigil in Washington.

Support for Joshua Powell: Wayne Hamberg, has spoken out in support of his friend, Josh Powell. Hamberg told Fox News he feels no one is supporting Josh and that everyone has “beaten him up so badly lately.”

Hamberg doesn’t believe seeking legal counsel is an admission of guilt and doesn’t find it peculiar that Josh forgot what day it was.

Holding out hope Joshua is not guilty: Kiirsi said of Josh, “We just have to keep being his friend and being there for him. We believe he’s innocent until proven guilty so he’s still our friend, he’s still the same guy we’ve always known and we still love and care about him”.

http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2009m12d19-Susan-Powell-Update-Carpet-cleaning-machine-found--husband-rents-car-then-disappears-more-gtgt


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:33:59 PM



 


BLOCKED WEBSITE










Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 19, 2009, 11:39:04 PM
The video with the article states that police found a carpet cleaner in the home and early on in the investigation Josh rented a car and disappeared for 24 hours., police have no idea where he went.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-police-puzzled-utah-moms-disappearance,0,3590060.story

 ::MonkeyShocked::

24 hours!!!

Thanks Northern Rose

Why was this guy not under surveillance?

Something is not right.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:41:54 PM
The video with the article states that police found a carpet cleaner in the home and early on in the investigation Josh rented a car and disappeared for 24 hours., police have no idea where he went.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-police-puzzled-utah-moms-disappearance,0,3590060.story

 ::MonkeyShocked::

24 hours!!!

Thanks Northern Rose

Why was this guy not under surveillance?

Something is not right.

Janet


I know.  I hope they seized the rental car. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 19, 2009, 11:48:50 PM
A gratefulness candle has been started to pray for Susan's safe return

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Susan


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 20, 2009, 01:04:03 AM
Geraldo 12/19/09 - Susan Powell Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/v/Q0USU_Fj1kE&hl=en_US&fs=1&


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 20, 2009, 01:05:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/BjV7k_uSEJY&hl=en_US&fs=1&


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 20, 2009, 02:31:47 AM
In the Geraldo interview they state Josh said he went to this area to camp

Simpson Springs

From Little Valley continue west on Lookout pass Road for approx 20 miles.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 20, 2009, 02:33:42 AM
Simpson Springs Campground, Utah

Description: Elevation 5100 feet. Campground at the foot of the low (8200 feet) and remote Simpson Mountains. Horse corral with water .25 mile west of the camprgound-- horses not allowed in the campground proper. There is running water in the campground but it is not potable unless treated.

Location: From Vernon, go 5 miles north to the Pony Express Trail (still a dirt road), then about 25 miles west southwest.

http://www.publiclands.org/explore/site.php?id=1413&SID=1239357866.1464


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 20, 2009, 02:35:07 AM
http://www.publiclands.org/explore/quadrant_map.php?id=1413&site_name=Simpson%20Springs%20Campground&quad=UT_Q11


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 20, 2009, 02:49:34 AM
Map showing house to Simpson springs

Travel time 2 ours 45 mins, 91 miles


http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=6254+Sarah+Cir,+Salt+Lake+City,+UT+84128&daddr=Simpson+Springs,+Dugway-Wendover,+Tooele,+Utah,+United+States&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.046146,-112.788219&sspn=0.87255,1.573792&ie=UTF8&ll=40.390489,-112.478027&spn=0.868132,1.573792&t=h&z=9


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 20, 2009, 02:53:22 AM
Campground


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: theboyzmom on December 20, 2009, 08:18:20 AM
I also hope they seized the rental car. Although I am pretty sure that she was dead and disposed of before then. I wonder if he thought about doing away with himself and was too self centered to do it?  It would fit what I have heard of his personality. I feel bad for her parents. Her dad sounds like he really did not like Josh but wanted to keep the lines of communication open in case she came to her senses. I wish they would at least require someone to stay with him and the kids - I am afraid that his selfish nature may make him act like a cornered animal -If I can not have the kids because I am caught, I will just take all of us out.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on December 20, 2009, 09:31:29 AM
I found it odd in a good way that the daycare phoned the family when the children didn't show up...Is this usual? unless it was a smaller daycare, but still, to have the insight to phone Susan's family...otherwise, how many days would have passed before the news of her disappearance was made public???


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 20, 2009, 09:36:29 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/705352732/TV-stations-subpoenaed-for-video-footage-in-Powell-case.html

Wayne Hamberg | 6:11 p.m. Dec. 19, 2009
To Mary:

I'm a good friend of Josh as well and this is what I have I told the media and the police.

1) I don't want to mess up anything that the WVCPD my be working on. The WVCPD will solve this case and I am withholding judgement. I want to believe Josh is innocent and Susan is alive and well.
2) I am worried about the safety of my family because I have come out and stated I'm friends of Josh and that my experience with Josh is different than is presently being reported.
3) KSL and Channel 4 has both been to my house today and CBS-National has called. Imagine the pressure I would get if I knew more details than just being Josh's friend.

If I new anything, I would contact the WVCPD immediately and I would be speaking only to them. I have told everybody that I told Josh only to speak to his attorney and the WVCPD and nobody else.

Everybody let the WVCPD do their jobs as they will solve this case.

Then this response to Wayne:


Anonymous | 7:15 p.m. Dec. 19, 2009
Wayne - you have been speaking to everyone, and advertising yourself all over the place. Sounds like you want the media to contact you by putting your name out in every media source there is. Are you sure you are there to support your man, Josh, or are you just wanting your 15 minute of fame.


Wayne Hamberg | 8:29 p.m. Dec. 19, 2009
I talked to Deseret News and they posted the story on the AP. People Magizine lied and said they were from the Deseret News following up on the story. KSL & Channel 4 both came by asking for a video story which I declined. CBS-National wanted me to do a live broadcast at 4am Monday morning which I have also declined. If I wanted my 15 minutes of fame, I wouldn't be turning down interview requests 3 times in one day would I.

Let the WVCPD do their job and continue to investigate because I have all the confidence the WVCPD will resolve this situation.

My hopes and prayers along with most people is that Susan is still alive.

Mary | 9:03 p.m. Dec. 19, 2009
Wayne

With all due respect. If you are so worried about your family's safety you should not be using your real name on the internet discussing what you say you don't want to discuss.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 20, 2009, 10:32:33 AM
Thank-you for all the updates.              Chuck Cox said he bought his daughter a cell phone when she moved to Utah so she could use it for emergencies. Joshua Powell knew about the phone, he said, but he and Judy paid the bill each month to ensure his daughter had a way to call them.   ::MonkeyEek:: The parents knew Josh was trouble, and they also knew that in order to keep the relationship with their daughter and grandchildren, they had to tolerate this fool their daughter married. My prayers to the Cox family  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 20, 2009, 11:17:59 AM
IMO they need to look closer to home for her.

I don't believe she is anywhere near that route. The info is posted by NR to show how far from home in a storm the trip is. I say......look closer to home for her. I don't know much about Utah, but I'd check around the ponds close to home. Do the Kennecott Tailings Pond's (# 1 and # 2) freeze over/solid this time of year? Salt would inhibit freezing....no?

Kennecott Tailings Pond Number One -
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&num=50&newwindow=1&q=kennecott%20tailings%20pond&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Kennecott Tailings Pond Number Two -
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&num=50&q=Kennecott+Tailings+Pond+Number+Two,+Magna,+Salt+Lake,+Utah&ie=UTF8&oi=georefine&ct=clnk&cd=2&geocode=FXu7bQIdpIlQ-Q&split=0

IMO his words or lack thereof are leading them in the wrong direction. If she is found close to home he can say she was taken from the house.




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 20, 2009, 12:54:27 PM
December 20, 2009 Sunday 
 
396 words
 
 
TV stations subpoenaed for video footage in Powell case
 

WEST VALLEY CITY
Authorities have requested all video footage of the husband of missing Utahn Susan Powell from local television stations. West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan declined to elaborate what they're looking for in the footage.

Most Salt Lake-area TV stations received the subpoenas Friday. KSL received an electronic subpoena after business hours Friday and has yet to review it, said Con Psarras, vice president of KSL News. Because almost everything recorded in the case has already been published online, the station is likely to comply with the request, he said. "We don't have much," he said. "With a person of interest, it's logical for the police to want to know." The news and radio station will follow established policy for dealing with recordings, Psarras said. 
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:1095543664&start=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 20, 2009, 02:20:29 PM
http://newsblaze.com/story/20091220075129kays.nb/topstory.html      Another good article  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: LynneinMd. on December 20, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
Nothing has been said about Susan's FIL Steven. Hopefully the police have interviewed him.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 20, 2009, 03:04:45 PM
Neighbor Talks About Noise At Powell Home

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_0811CAC5_NeighborTalksAboutNoiseAtP.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=0811CAC5_NeighborTalksAboutNoiseAtP.flv)

http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=67992


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on December 20, 2009, 03:22:09 PM
is this new the vid mentions a search warrant

West Valley Woman Missing, Police Search House for Clues

http://www.fox13now.com/videobeta/?watchId=b9cb10db-3053-43d2-af94-34cc290b738a (http://www.fox13now.com/videobeta/?watchId=b9cb10db-3053-43d2-af94-34cc290b738a)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 20, 2009, 04:11:56 PM
This is one of the Josh creepy videos:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_DB52E1B1_JoshPowellInterviewedbyFOX.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=DB52E1B1_JoshPowellInterviewedbyFOX.flv)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 20, 2009, 05:07:33 PM


http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=68001

Police Think Husband Of Missing Mom Has Left Utah

Reported by:
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 @03:33pm

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - Police say they believe the Utah man considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife is now in Washington state.
     
West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan said Sunday that neighbors of Josh Powell say he left Utah either Friday or Saturday, presumably to be with family in Washington.
     
His wife Susan has been missing since Dec. 7. Josh Powell told police he last saw her at 12:30 a.m. that day when he took his two young sons on a camping trip and left her at home.
     
Police have called Josh Powell a person of interest and said he was not forthcoming in interviews with detectives.
     
McLachlan said there are no restrictions on Josh Powell's movements.
     
Meanwhile, Susan Powell's family and friends are planning a candlelight vigil Sunday night in Puyallup, Wash.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 20, 2009, 05:30:00 PM
IMO they need to look closer to home for her.

I don't believe she is anywhere near that route. The info is posted by NR to show how far from home in a storm the trip is. I say......look closer to home for her. I don't know much about Utah, but I'd check around the ponds close to home. Do the Kennecott Tailings Pond's (# 1 and # 2) freeze over/solid this time of year? Salt would inhibit freezing....no?

Kennecott Tailings Pond Number One -
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&num=50&newwindow=1&q=kennecott%20tailings%20pond&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Kennecott Tailings Pond Number Two -
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&num=50&q=Kennecott+Tailings+Pond+Number+Two,+Magna,+Salt+Lake,+Utah&ie=UTF8&oi=georefine&ct=clnk&cd=2&geocode=FXu7bQIdpIlQ-Q&split=0

IMO his words or lack thereof are leading them in the wrong direction. If she is found close to home he can say she was taken from the house.




hmmm, I just dont think he is that smart to think ahead and be able to say someone else took her since she is close to home.  I think he took her very far from the house.  And not at all where he says he went camping.  Who knows I guess - I just dont think he that bright.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 20, 2009, 06:04:51 PM


http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=68001

Police Think Husband Of Missing Mom Has Left Utah

Reported by:
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 @03:33pm

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - Police say they believe the Utah man considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife is now in Washington state.
     
West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan said Sunday that neighbors of Josh Powell say he left Utah either Friday or Saturday, presumably to be with family in Washington.
     
His wife Susan has been missing since Dec. 7. Josh Powell told police he last saw her at 12:30 a.m. that day when he took his two young sons on a camping trip and left her at home.
     
Police have called Josh Powell a person of interest and said he was not forthcoming in interviews with detectives.
     
McLachlan said there are no restrictions on Josh Powell's movements.
     
Meanwhile, Susan Powell's family and friends are planning a candlelight vigil Sunday night in Puyallup, Wash.

BOTTOM LINE!  Utah authorities do not know the whereabouts of the person of interest in the disappearance of Susan Powell and ... this is not the first time.  Surveillance is not an option?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Could it be that somewhere behind the scenes there are church connections between relatives of Josh Powell and ... someone in Law Enforcement  ... pulling strings ... deterring the justice process?

Janet

+++++++++

The video with the article states that police found a carpet cleaner in the home and early on in the investigation Josh rented a car and disappeared for 24 hours., police have no idea where he went.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-police-puzzled-utah-moms-disappearance,0,3590060.story

 ::MonkeyShocked::

24 hours!!!

Thanks Northern Rose

Why was this guy not under surveillance?

Something is not right.

Janet



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 20, 2009, 06:09:47 PM
IMO they need to look closer to home for her.

I don't believe she is anywhere near that route. The info is posted by NR to show how far from home in a storm the trip is. I say......look closer to home for her. I don't know much about Utah, but I'd check around the ponds close to home. Do the Kennecott Tailings Pond's (# 1 and # 2) freeze over/solid this time of year? Salt would inhibit freezing....no?

Kennecott Tailings Pond Number One -
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&num=50&newwindow=1&q=kennecott%20tailings%20pond&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Kennecott Tailings Pond Number Two -
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&num=50&q=Kennecott+Tailings+Pond+Number+Two,+Magna,+Salt+Lake,+Utah&ie=UTF8&oi=georefine&ct=clnk&cd=2&geocode=FXu7bQIdpIlQ-Q&split=0

IMO his words or lack thereof are leading them in the wrong direction. If she is found close to home he can say she was taken from the house.




hmmm, I just dont think he is that smart to think ahead and be able to say someone else took her since she is close to home.  I think he took her very far from the house.  And not at all where he says he went camping.  Who knows I guess - I just dont think he that bright.

He wouldn't have to 'think ahead'. If she is found close to home, he could simply say it. One thing we can agree on is that she is not in the direction he speaks of.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 20, 2009, 06:17:52 PM
And I'm assuming the children left the state with this creep?  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 20, 2009, 06:23:09 PM
I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone.  It is something akin to the tail wagging the dog.

 ::MonkeyMad::

Janet

+++++++

Lawyer: Husband of missing mom has left Utah
(AP) – 18 minutes ago


SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah man considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife has left the state with the couple's two young children, his attorney said Sunday.

Josh Powell's attorney, Scott Williams, said in a text message to The Associated Press that his client went to his father's house in Washington state for the holidays with his sons

<snipped>

West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan on Sunday said there are no restrictions on Josh Powell's movements.

"He can come and go as he pleases," McLachlan said, adding that police would still like to speak with him again.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CNAP402


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 20, 2009, 06:33:57 PM
Oh geeeeeeezeeeeee  ::MonkeyEek::  what if he takes her to WA? Naaaaa....nevermind...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 20, 2009, 06:36:59 PM


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 20, 2009, 06:41:52 PM
Thanks Northern Rose, so he took the kids with him, and how easy is it to cross over into Canada? 
Susan's parents can have a judge draw up emergency, temporary custody papers, and hope they do so immediately. Only problem is what if they don't know where he is with the kids? My biggest fear, is this sick SOB could kill his children and himself.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 20, 2009, 06:52:57 PM
His parents live only about 2 miles from Susan's parents in Washington state.  He's probably going to visit with them for Christmas.  I imagine it was a planned trip although I could be wrong.  Just seems that it would be pretty expensive purchasing tickets at the last minute.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 20, 2009, 06:55:18 PM
I agree NR and it would not surprise me. I wish they could arrest him NOW. I know they don't have enough, but geeeeeeeezeeeeeeeeee.....it is so obvious.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 20, 2009, 06:56:57 PM
I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone.  It is something akin to the tail wagging the dog.

 ::MonkeyMad::

Janet

+++++++

Lawyer: Husband of missing mom has left Utah
(AP) – 18 minutes ago


SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah man considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife has left the state with the couple's two young children, his attorney said Sunday.

Josh Powell's attorney, Scott Williams, said in a text message to The Associated Press that his client went to his father's house in Washington state for the holidays with his sons

<snipped>

West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan on Sunday said there are no restrictions on Josh Powell's movements.

"He can come and go as he pleases," McLachlan said, adding that police would still like to speak with him again.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9CNAP402


no rose colored glasses

You are right!!

If there are no restrictions on Josh's comings and goings ... there are several entries into Canada ... into the Fraser Valley of British Columbia ... by driving the Interstate 5 directly from the Seattle area.

It could be that Josh Powell is attempting to avoid the death penalty.  Extradiction from Canada is only a possibility if Utah takes it off the table.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 20, 2009, 06:57:15 PM
His parents live only about 2 miles from Susan's parents in Washington state.  He's probably going to visit with them for Christmas.  I imagine it was a planned trip although I could be wrong.  Just seems that it would be pretty expensive purchasing tickets at the last minute.
Yes, and maybe it was a planned trip, he is obviously unstable, I don't trust him, and I just hope that is all he is doing is visiting for Christmas.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 20, 2009, 06:57:17 PM
His parents live only about 2 miles from Susan's parents in Washington state.  He's probably going to visit with them for Christmas.  I imagine it was a planned trip although I could be wrong.  Just seems that it would be pretty expensive purchasing tickets at the last minute.

It's only about a 3hr drive from Puyallup Washington to Vancouver Canada.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 20, 2009, 06:59:34 PM
Thank-you Janet, I wasn't sure how easy it was to go into Canada, I knew about the extradition and the death penalty having to be taken off the table, just like with Mexico.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 20, 2009, 07:09:01 PM
It appears that Josh Powell's parents are divorced.  His mother lives in Utah and his father lives in Washington.

Janet

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 20, 2009, 07:16:21 PM
Thank-you Janet, I wasn't sure how easy it was to go into Canada, I knew about the extradition and the death penalty having to be taken off the table, just like with Mexico.

You are welcome.

Approximately three times a year you will find this Canadian in the Seattle area.  Depending on washroom and coffee/tea breaks ... it is approximately a 3 1/2 hour drive from the Fraser Valley.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 20, 2009, 07:20:42 PM
Thanks Northern Rose, so he took the kids with him, and how easy is it to cross over into Canada? 
Susan's parents can have a judge draw up emergency, temporary custody papers, and hope they do so immediately. Only problem is what if they don't know where he is with the kids? My biggest fear, is this sick SOB could kill his children and himself.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

That thought has crossed my mind too.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 20, 2009, 07:30:58 PM


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 20, 2009, 08:09:36 PM
Thank-you Janet, I wasn't sure how easy it was to go into Canada, I knew about the extradition and the death penalty having to be taken off the table, just like with Mexico.

You are welcome.

Approximately three times a year you will find this Canadian in the Seattle area.  Depending on washroom and coffee/tea breaks ... it is approximately a 3 1/2 hour drive from the Fraser Valley.

Janet

Isn't the new law now where you have to have a passport to go into Canada and back to the US? Maybe I have misunderstood that, I thought that is what is needed now.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 20, 2009, 08:11:48 PM


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Wouldn't be the first time I have heard a family say something like that, Josh is just Josh. Well that is fine if it is little issues which make him unique, but this guy does not seem to have little issues  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 20, 2009, 08:25:09 PM
Thank-you Janet, I wasn't sure how easy it was to go into Canada, I knew about the extradition and the death penalty having to be taken off the table, just like with Mexico.

You are welcome.

Approximately three times a year you will find this Canadian in the Seattle area.  Depending on washroom and coffee/tea breaks ... it is approximately a 3 1/2 hour drive from the Fraser Valley.

Janet


I just remembered.  My eldest son who lives in Vancouver Island often takes a passenger ferring from Victoria, BC (Capital) to Seattle.  There is another passenger/car (?) ferry that departs from Victoria to Port Angeles, Washington.  If Josh does not have a vehicle this would probably be his choice of entry into Canada.  A vehicle could be rented in Victoria.

Up until this year ... proof of residency (driver's licence) was all that was required by Americans and Canadians who wished to drive cross the border.  Now passports and birth certificates is where it is at ... unless you are Tamikosmom.  I was on a mission to pick up a newly released book in Bellingham ... a 20 minute drive from the border and ... forgot my documents.  The guard waved me through with only a driver's licence for identification.  I think he though I was going to cry and didn't want to deal with me.

 ::snowmanlaugh::

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:51:34 AM

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 09:42:00 AM
Thank-you Janet for your answer about passports  ::MonkeyCool:: Northern Rose, from the latest article you posted.  Susan's mother and father walked by Joshua and did not stop to talk to him.   ::MonkeyEek:: Josh is lucky that is all they did, not talk to him. They show real class, because I'm afraid my husband and I would not have been so decent.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 10:05:56 AM
"One of the biggest problems Susan had was that (Josh) talked to his dad for hours, more than he talked to her," said Tim Peterson, a friend and member of the Powells' ward who has been vocal in the past about Josh Powell and once called police on him.
.....

Joe Trujillo, who talked to Josh Powell often when he would come visit two doors down the street, said Josh told him only a month ago that some family problems stemmed from how busy and active Susan was with her ward, which Josh Powell started attending again a few months ago because of marriage counseling.

"(Josh) mentioned the church was putting a burden on their marriage," Trujillo said.

Other ward members described a similar scenario.

Peterson said he went with the Elders Quorum presidency last September to offer Susan a blessing when she was feeling sick, and said that Josh Powell talked to them for 45 minutes while his wife sat there sick.

"Not in any part of the time did he show any concern for his wife," Peterson said.

"(Susan) told me that a couple times he would say to the kids, 'You can go to church or have this cake,' " Peterson said. "She had to do everything."

Hellewell said he knew Josh struggled with pressure from his family, especially his dad, Stephen Powell, about church.

"His dad is very against the church," Hellewell said. "His dad is always sending him anti-Mormon literature and I've heard stories from Josh and Susan that (Josh's) dad was always trying to break up their marriage."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 10:07:23 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...Utah.html?pg=1    Here is the link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 10:09:04 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705352897/Husband-of-missing-West-Valley-woman-has-left-Utah.html?pg=1    I hope this link works.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 21, 2009, 11:33:58 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9097273

Husband of missing Utah mother attends Wash. vigil
December 20, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- A Utah man considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife was among more than 60 people who attended a vigil for her Sunday night in her parents' hometown in Washington state.

Meanwhile, Susan Powell's friends and neighbors held another vigil for her in West Valley City.

"We have not given up, and we will not give up until Susan comes home," said Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan's best friend.

Susan Powell's friends and neighbors gather at the Utah vigil Sunday night

Susan's husband Josh suddenly left Utah over the weekend. Although he's been called a person of interest by police, Josh Powell is legally free to leave the state.

He told friends he just wanted to get away from the media attention, but he missed an outpouring of support here for his missing wife.

They came with candles and messages of support promising prayers and hymns around the world.

"We join Susan's family and friends at this moment in Puyallup, Washington to light a candle of hope for Susan," Hellewell said.

In many places they promised to sing Susan's favorite hymn, "Silent Night". Mixed in with all the songs and prayers was an undercurrent of worry about whether the case will ever be resolved.

"We ask Father that hearts may be softened, that whoever may know what has happened to her may have the courage to step forward and speak up," said James Hofheins, coordinator of the Susan Powell Friends and Family Facebook page.

Josh Powell evidently left Utah either Friday or Saturday and traveled to Washington to stay with his father. Friday and Sunday, a KSL news camera captured scenes of large items being removed from his home by friends or relatives.

One neighbor spoke with him by phone just before the vigil.

"He just told me he needed to get away from all the press and publicity. He wants to keep his kids away from it," said John Hellewell.

Powell also said he'd been fired from his software job.

Hellewell said, "He just made a comment to me that he wasn't going to be able to pay any more of his bills because he doesn't have any money now."

Neighbors were surprised he had left Utah so suddenly.

"I don't know what his motives are. Maybe he just wanted to be with his family for a while but that was surprising to me," Kiirsi Hellewell said. "His story is already strange. It's already something that's hard to believe, so the whole circumstances around that are strange."

At the Utah vigil, suspicions were set aside as dozens of people hoped to make a difference with prayer and song.

"I just hope wherever she is that she's safe and that she knows how much everyone loves her," said friend Rachel Marini.

The Washington vigil was held at a church near the homes of Josh's father and Susan's parents. Besides Josh Powell, the event was attended by Susan's grandparents, parents and siblings.

Police said his distance from Utah will make it more difficult to speak with him, but they do not have him under surveillance.

Police also said there were no new developments in the investigation


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 21, 2009, 11:43:56 AM
Thank-you Janet for your answer about passports  ::MonkeyCool:: Northern Rose, from the latest article you posted.  Susan's mother and father walked by Joshua and did not stop to talk to him.   ::MonkeyEek:: Josh is lucky that is all they did, not talk to him. They show real class, because I'm afraid my husband and I would not have been so decent.

An ongoing relationship with those little boys ... if Josh is not held accountable for the death of Susan ... must be the reason that her family does not go up one side of Josh and down the other.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: chi-monkey on December 21, 2009, 11:54:59 AM
Thank-you Janet for your answer about passports  ::MonkeyCool:: Northern Rose, from the latest article you posted.  Susan's mother and father walked by Joshua and did not stop to talk to him.   ::MonkeyEek:: Josh is lucky that is all they did, not talk to him. They show real class, because I'm afraid my husband and I would not have been so decent.

An ongoing relationship with those little boys ... if Josh is not held accountable for the death of Susan ... must be the reason that her family does not go up one side of Josh and down the other.

Janet

Agreed.  This is a time to think long term.  If Josh did it (I think he did), it could be a long time before he is charged.  Meantime the little boys welfare is first consideration.   

I am so very afraid for them!

Chi-M


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 11:57:09 AM
Chuck Cox We estimate 200 people attended the vigil in the pouring rain, I counted at least 5 News trucks, I know there were more. Talk about determination and support. Shortly after the vigil as people began to disperse, I heard that Joshua (the husband) had arrived. I saw this brother doing an interview, I couldn't really understand why Josh was there. I saw that Josh had brought Charlie,(4 yrs old) but I felt it would have been inappropriate for me to barge in on the Powell family umbrella fort they created to guard against Media. It was well known that the Media would be there.....I just hope being here will encourage Josh to help with the search. Thank everyone, including the Media for showing up in the Pouring rain. We are taking it one day at a time.

http://www.facebook.com/#/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=198478842187


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:02:40 PM
Friend: Missing Utah mom was mulling divorce (with video)
‘She talked of escaping, but there’s no way she would have left her boys’

A woman who has known a missing Utah woman and her husband since the couple were married eight years ago is not surprised that Josh Powell has been named a person of interest in his wife Susan’s disappearance, saying that his increasingly controlling behavior had put the couple’s marriage on the rocks.

“His story just doesn’t add up,” Rachel Marini told TODAY’s Ann Curry Monday from her home in American Fork, Utah. “I think it was only a matter of time before it came to this.”

It has been two weeks since Josh Powell told police he took the couple’s two boys on a late-night camping trip, leaving Susan behind in their suburban Salt Lake City home. When he came home, she wasn’t there, he told police.

Since then, Josh has hired a prominent local defense attorney and has not responded to police efforts to interview him further. Last week, he took sons Charlie, 4, and Raden, 2, back to his parents’ home in Puyallup, Wash., for the holidays. On Sunday evening, he attended a prayer vigil for Susan with his older son but did not acknowledge his wife’s parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, who stood just a dozen or so feet away from him.

Marini said that behavior seemed strange. “Her parents are hurting just as much as he is. I would have hoped that he would have been comforting to them, as I know they would have been to him,” she said.


Debts and deterioration
Marini said that what had been a happy marriage began to deteriorate several years ago when the Powells moved from Washington to Utah. The couple had financial difficulties and filed for bankruptcy in 2007, citing nearly $200,000 in debts.

“Josh became more and more controlling, and it was harder for her to remain herself, or remain the happy person that she was,” Marini said.

“Josh was very controlling. He controlled everything in their marriage, from the money that Susan spent to what groceries she could buy to what she could eat. There was a lot of fighting and belittling on his part. It just reduced her to a very unhappy and different person than she was when he first met her,” Marini told Curry.

Marini said that Susan had spoken about her unhappiness and had even discussed leaving her husband. But, she said, it’s unthinkable that her friend would have gone without her children.

“Susan talked many times about escaping her unhappy marriage, but there’s no way she would have left her boys,” Marini said.

Credible story?
Police have focused on Josh’s account that he decided to go camping near midnight on Sunday, Dec. 6. He said he went to a park in the desert west of Salt Lake City, despite sub-freezing temperatures and a snowstorm moving in. He and the boys slept in the family van, he said.

Police have said that Josh was vague about the exact location of his campsite. An overnight snowstorm also eradicated tracks and made it impossible for police to check Josh’s story.
 
When the children didn’t show up at day care and Susan didn’t go to work, concerned friends called police, who broke into the house. They reportedly found Susan’s purse and cell phone. In the living room, fans were trained on a wet spot on the carpet

Curry asked Marini whether Josh’s story about an impromptu camping trip is credible.

“I don’t know, but I do know that if he had told Susan, ‘Hey, I’m going to take the boys out camping, and it’s 10 degrees out, it’s a blizzard, and we have school the next day,’ she would

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/34508240/ns/today-today_people/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 12:03:25 PM
I understand it would be best not to speak to Josh looking at the long term consequences, it would just be very hard not too. And LE isn't really watching his movements  ::MonkeyEek:: either they really are, which I hope, and aren't saying that, or this would not be a good move by LE considering Canada is right there to go and disappear. But it sounds like he has very little money, but family members could help him with money.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 21, 2009, 12:04:53 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9097273

Husband of missing Utah mother attends Wash. vigil
December 20, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- A Utah man considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife was among more than 60 people who attended a vigil for her Sunday night in her parents' hometown in Washington state.

<snipped>

Police said his distance from Utah will make it more difficult to speak with him, but they do not have him under surveillance.

Police also said there were no new developments in the investigation



It would have been a good thing if Josh had been under surveillance in that 24 hour period he went missing.  Could he have been insuring Susan's remains would never be found.

Considering there is no restriction in regards to Josh's comings and goings ... could police surveillance observe him crossing the Canadian/American border and ... not have any authority to intervene?

Janet

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Susan Powell Update: Carpet cleaning machine found, husband rents car then disappears
December 19, 2:28 PM


Josh rented a car and briefly disappeared himself, according to Fox 13 News. Detectives said Josh wasn’t seen or heard from for nearly 24 hours. They will not go into detail about the car rental but did say that Josh rented the car when they seized the van to search it. They would not comment when asked how many miles were put on the rental car, which, Fox News reported, could be significant.

http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2009m12d19-Susan-Powell-Update-Carpet-cleaning-machine-found--husband-rents-car-then-disappears-more-gtgt


Husband of missing mom attends Wash. vigil
Wife's side of the family also is at service; he’s a ‘person of interest’


West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan said Sunday there are no restrictions on Josh Powell's movements.

"He can come and go as he pleases," McLachlan said, adding that police would still like to speak with him again.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34503052/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:05:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZuvLyygRK70&hl=en_US&fs=1&


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 12:07:18 PM
“Josh was very controlling. He controlled everything in their marriage, from the money that Susan spent to what groceries she could buy to what she could eat. There was a lot of fighting and belittling on his part. It just reduced her to a very unhappy and different person than she was when he first met her,” Marini told Curry.  ::MonkeyEek:: In this creeps sick and controlling mind, Susan must have done something that pushed him over. I'm sure he has justified whatever happened in his mind.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:08:47 PM
4 year old Charlie at vigil.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 12:09:09 PM
4 year old Charlie at vigil.


  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:16:55 PM
Janet - I agree with you on how easy it is to get across the border to Canada .  When I lived in the Fraser Valley it was normal to go across shopping in Bellingham for the weekend.  When the passport restrictions came in effect I was discussing with my Aunt that it must take her more time now then when we used to scoot across the border and she said at first it did, now no.  There have been times when she was asked if she had a passport, went to get it from her purse, and just got waived through before she even got them out. 

As well, as the Ferries you can take from Victoria, there are ferries from Sidney, right by the airport on the island that go to Anacortes, Lopez, Orcas and Friday Harbour Washington.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:21:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/gPKeOYB4FU0&hl=en_US&fs=1&


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:24:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/OBXltNRvOos&hl=en_US&fs=1&


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 12:26:05 PM
Josh ran home to be with his daddy, and I'm sure it isn't a stretch to think that daddy will help Josh with what ever it takes, to help him out  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:29:00 PM
Josh ran home to be with his daddy, and I'm sure it isn't a stretch to think that daddy will help Josh with what ever it takes, to help him out  ::MonkeyNoNo::

The last video I posted states that even Josh's own family in Utah did not know that Josh had left the state until they heard it on the news.  They had no idea he had gone to WA  ::MonkeyEek::  This brother-in-law is the family that was sharing time looking after the boys.  I am wonder if the boys were talking too much and Josh needed to get them away?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 21, 2009, 12:43:34 PM
This video when they zoom in on Josh he mutters "wow" and shakes his head back and forth - no.  He is mad the media is there?  How in the world would he not expect the media there and be happy that they are to keep Susan in the news?  Right after that he is kneeling down by Charlie and pulling the little boys hood until he gets a really good grip on it.  It disturbs me to see that.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Husband-of-missing-Utah-woman-attends-vigil-in-Puyallup-79816897.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 21, 2009, 12:43:46 PM
“Josh was very controlling. He controlled everything in their marriage, from the money that Susan spent to what groceries she could buy to what she could eat. There was a lot of fighting and belittling on his part. It just reduced her to a very unhappy and different person than she was when he first met her,” Marini told Curry.  ::MonkeyEek:: In this creeps sick and controlling mind, Susan must have done something that pushed him over. I'm sure he has justified whatever happened in his mind.

Thanks no rose colored glasses

You are right.  I can hear it now.  "Susan made me do it.  If only she ... "

Could it be that an insecure/possessive/controlling Josh anticipated Susan would be more reliant on him if he moved her to Utah ... away from Seattle ... away from her family ... away from her friends ... away from negative influences in regards to her choice of a husband ... ?

Janet

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Friend: Missing Utah mom was mulling divorce
‘She talked of escaping, but there’s no way she would have left her boys’
By Mike Celizic
TODAYshow.com contributor
updated 5:46 a.m. PT, Mon., Dec . 21, 2009


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34508240/ns/today-today_people/



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 12:48:11 PM
Josh ran home to be with his daddy, and I'm sure it isn't a stretch to think that daddy will help Josh with what ever it takes, to help him out  ::MonkeyNoNo::

The last video I posted states that even Josh's own family in Utah did not know that Josh had left the state until they heard it on the news.  They had no idea he had gone to WA  ::MonkeyEek::  This brother-in-law is the family that was sharing time looking after the boys.  I am wonder if the boys were talking too much and Josh needed to get them away?
I'll bet, and since it sounds like Josh's father is controlling or at least like he likes to cause problems with the marriage, that is a safe haven for him to go with the boys.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 12:50:05 PM
This video when they zoom in on Josh he mutters "wow" and shakes his head back and forth - no.  He is mad the media is there?  How in the world would he not expect the media there and be happy that they are to keep Susan in the news?  Right after that he is kneeling down by Charlie and pulling the little boys hood until he gets a really good grip on it.  It disturbs me to see that.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Husband-of-missing-Utah-woman-attends-vigil-in-Puyallup-79816897.html
Very disturbing  ::MonkeyNoNo:: And yes, Janet I'll bet they moved to Utah to keep Susan away from her family. She certainly seems to have a lovely and caring family, and he probably wanted no part of it.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 21, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
Janet - I agree with you on how easy it is to get across the border to Canada .  When I lived in the Fraser Valley it was normal to go across shopping in Bellingham for the weekend.  When the passport restrictions came in effect I was discussing with my Aunt that it must take her more time now then when we used to scoot across the border and she said at first it did, now no.  There have been times when she was asked if she had a passport, went to get it from her purse, and just got waived through before she even got them out. 

As well, as the Ferries you can take from Victoria, there are ferries from Sidney, right by the airport on the island that go to Anacortes, Lopez, Orcas and Friday Harbour Washington.

Northern Rose

Thanks for the info on the ferries between Washington to Vancouver Island and ... thanks for your quick response in regard to the all the updated articles.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 01:21:42 PM
Susan's parents can have a judge draw up an emergency, temporary custody papers. It was done in the Nancy Cooper case. LE picked the kids up and that was it until a formal hearing could be held. An ex parte hearing. Since Josh is a person of interest, I sure hope this is given some thought. Don't know if this will work in this case, but worth the try to make sure the boys will be safe.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 01:25:50 PM
I'm getting matter by the minute about little Charlie being at his mother's vigil, every time I see his cute little face, on that screen shot  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 21, 2009, 01:45:51 PM
I'm getting matter by the minute about little Charlie being at his mother's vigil, every time I see his cute little face, on that screen shot  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me too.

I believe that four year old Charlie should be protected as much as possible from the details encompassing the disappearance of his mother.  In my opinion ... this little boy being at the vigil was cruel ... was exploitative.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 01:49:52 PM
I'm getting matter by the minute about little Charlie being at his mother's vigil, every time I see his cute little face, on that screen shot  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me too.

I believe that four year old Charlie should be protected as much as possible from the details encompassing the disappearance of his mother.  In my opinion ... this little boy being at the vigil was cruel ... was exploitative.

Janet

Josh probably wants to keep the oldest child as close as possible in case a relative asks him any questions  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 21, 2009, 01:50:43 PM
I am off for most of the day.  My hope is that when I return ... one of our Monkeys will have posted an article with a headline ... ARREST IN THE DISAPPEARANCE OF SUSAN POWELL.

 ::HelloKitty::

Later, Janet
10:50 AM PT



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 02:34:50 PM
I am off for most of the day.  My hope is that when I return ... one of our Monkeys will have posted an article with a headline ... ARREST IN THE DISAPPEARANCE OF SUSAN POWELL.

 ::HelloKitty::

Later, Janet
10:50 AM PT


Have a good day. I sure would like to see that also.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 21, 2009, 02:40:41 PM
Reward offered for information leading to Susan Powell's whereabouts
December 21st, 2009 @ 12:10pm

WEST VALLEY CITY -- West Valley City police say an anonymous donor is offering up to $10,000 for information leading to the whereabouts of Susan Powell.

She was reported missing Dec. 7 when she didn't show up to work and her children weren't dropped off at day care. Josh Powell told police he took his two boys camping around 12:30 a.m. that day and returned in the evening.

If you have information that could lead to the whereabouts of Susan Powell, you are asked to call 801-840-4000.

Josh Powell is considered a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife. He was among more than 60 people who attended a vigil for her Sunday night in her parents' hometown in Washington state.

Susan's husband Josh suddenly left Utah over the weekend. Although he's been called a person of interest by police, Josh Powell is legally free to leave the state.

West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan said, "So far he's given us no indication that he really is a flight risk. He was very free in his communication with his neighbors, who called us, that he was going Washington, the state of Washington, where his family is located."

His arrival in Washington was a surprise to friends of Susan Powell there. They say he was surrounded by friends and family, shielding him from the media at the vigil held there.

Over the weekend, friends and family moved large items out of the Powell home. Police say it is not a crime scene at this point so Josh has the right to say who can come and go from the house and what items can be taken.

Police have said they have already seized everything from the house that is pertinent to their investigation.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9105519


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 21, 2009, 02:56:57 PM
IMO, Josh no longer has a job or reason to stay in Utah.  It sounds like Josh's father didn't agree with the LDS faith and maybe Josh is now leaning in that way.  We know from reports that Josh felt that Susan was spending too much time with church activities. 

I believe Josh has moved back to Washington and has no plans on returning to Utah.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MunkeyMunk on December 21, 2009, 03:07:51 PM
IMO, Josh no longer has a job or reason to stay in Utah.  It sounds like Josh's father didn't agree with the LDS faith and maybe Josh is now leaning in that way.  We know from reports that Josh felt that Susan was spending too much time with church activities. 

I believe Josh has moved back to Washington and has no plans on returning to Utah.

BBM that thought crossed my mind too, Klaas ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 21, 2009, 09:26:00 PM
I don't suppose anyone thought to check dumpsters when she first went missing, eh?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 21, 2009, 09:28:03 PM
I don't suppose anyone thought to check dumpsters when she first went missing, eh?
I'll bet not   ::MonkeyEek:: But sure hope so.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 22, 2009, 01:19:14 AM
I was really hoping there would be some process in regards to the justice process today.

The more I think about the case ... the more frustrated I get.  There are so many red flags that implicate Josh Powell in the disappearance of his wife yet ... it is him that seems to be running the show ... not the investigators.

The biggest red flag for me is Josh Powell's claim that he had the days mixed up.  Logic dictates that Josh is lying.  Aside from attempting to prevent this guy from taking her babies out in below freezing weather to camp in a vehicle ... if Susan had been alive ... she would have been reminding Josh that they both had to be at work in a matter of hours.

I could be wrong but ... I have a hinky feeling that there may be connections between Josh's relatives in Utah ... the Mormon church and ... those within the investigation.  It has happened before in cases involving polygamists.

It appears that Josh Powell has a support base despite the impression that he has nobody on his side in Utah.

Good Night Monkeys.

Janet
10:20 PM PT


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Reward offered for information leading to Susan Powell's whereabouts
December 21st, 2009 @ 12:10pm


Over the weekend, friends and family moved large items out of the Powell home. Police say it is not a crime scene at this point so Josh has the right to say who can come and go from the house and what items can be taken.

Police have said they have already seized everything from the house that is pertinent to their investigation.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9105519


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 22, 2009, 01:55:04 AM
Police ask why Powell drove so far in rental car

WEST VALLEY CITY — A car rented by Josh Powell two days after his wife was reported missing was returned just 24 hours later with a lot of miles on it, according to police.

"It looks like there were several hundred miles driven," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News.

Investigators do not know where the car was taken or where Josh Powell was during that 24-hour period. There was no GPS data stored in that rental car, said McLachlan, who declined Monday to say from where the vehicle was rented.

Powell reportedly rented the car after police seized his minivan — his only vehicle — to be processed for evidence in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. The van has since been returned to Josh Powell.

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.

Powell has been named a person of interest in the missing person case by police, but not a suspect.


Susan Powell has been missing for more than two weeks. She was last seen Dec. 6. Josh Powell said he took his two young sons camping in remote Tooele County about midnight that night. Temperatures that night were well below freezing.

When Powell returned the following afternoon, his wife was gone.

West Valley police attempted to search the Simpson Springs recreation area in Tooele County along the Pony Express Trail, but their efforts were hampered by fresh snow and the vastness of the area. McLachlan said Monday there were currently no active searches happening.

"There is just no specific area or location you can go to," he said.

But investigators continue to receive tips and are following potential leads. "We're moving forward with it," McLachlan said of the case.

Also Monday, an anonymous donor offered a $10,000 reward for original information that results in Susan Powell being found. No other information about the donor was available.

Two vigils were held Sunday night — in West Valley City and Puyallup, Wash., Susan Powell's hometown — for the mother of two.

Josh Powell left Utah this weekend with his two young boys to spend the holidays in Washington. Neighbors have reported seeing many of the family's items being moved out of their house. Police say Powell is free to come and go as he pleases because he is not a suspect. Investigators do not know how long he intends to stay in Washington.

Friends say Powell was recently fired from his job. They told the Deseret News that he said he was fired because of the attention surrounding his wife's disappearance.

He attended Sunday night's rainy vigil in Puyallup, as did Susan's grandparents, parents and siblings. Josh Powell did not speak to reporters gathered at the event.

Josh came after the vigil had ended and family members were hugging each other before leaving, said Shelby Gifford, a family spokeswoman and a friend of Susan Powell. He arrived with his 4-year-old son, Charlie, and a group of friends who shielded him from others already at the vigil, including Susan's family, with umbrellas, she said.

Chuck Cox, Susan's father, later posted on a Facebook page dedicated to Susan that he wasn't sure why Josh showed up at the vigil. The post has since been removed.

Gifford tried to clarify that statement Monday, saying, "It's not as big a production as it's made out to be."

Josh had every right to be at the vigil, she said. What puzzled the family was why Josh seemed to isolate himself from everyone else except his friends who came with him.

"Josh surrounded himself with friends. No one could speak with him," Gifford said. "There's not two different camps. It would have been nice to talk to Charlie and Josh."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353130/Police-ask-why-Powell-drove-so-far-in-rental-car.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 22, 2009, 01:58:47 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 22, 2009, 09:42:45 AM
Thanks for those articles, all the warning signs were there, how I wish she would have grabbed her kids and left, but it sure appears that Susan was trying to do the right things for her boys by staying with their father  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: bananas on December 22, 2009, 09:55:45 AM
Over the weekend, friends and family moved large items out of the Powell home. Police say it is not a crime scene at this point so Josh has the right to say who can come and go from the house and what items can be taken.


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Does anyone find this to be an odd thing to do?  I am trying to imagine if it were me and my loved one was missing.  Move out and have my family and friends taking our things from the house?  I don't think this would be my reaction..... I'm just sayin.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 22, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Over the weekend, friends and family moved large items out of the Powell home. Police say it is not a crime scene at this point so Josh has the right to say who can come and go from the house and what items can be taken.


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Does anyone find this to be an odd thing to do?  I am trying to imagine if it were me and my loved one was missing.  Move out and have my family and friends taking our things from the house?  I don't think this would be my reaction..... I'm just sayin.... ::MonkeyNoNo::

It sounds to me like family & friends were helping Josh move out of the house.  I find that very odd!  However, everything Josh has done up until now has been very odd.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: BooMonkey on December 22, 2009, 11:01:23 AM
I believe the police will be able to nail him. With the GPS, the cell phone pings, etc. they will be able to track him. If they can find her body, hopefully the cold will help her contain enough evidence to find out how he killed her.

He probably put her body in the back of the van, then woke the kids up, put them in the van and drove away. Being that it was in the middle of the night, the children would have slept through any starts and stops. If he stopped at a gas station for gas or coffee, they will have him on camera. On a full tank of gas, the police still have a determinable radius in which to look. He could have dumped her anywhere, but digging a grave in the middle of a snow storm would not be an easy feat.

He is a self serving control freak. Her independence was the last straw. No one was going to leave HIM. It really does sound like he poisoned her, waited for her to die, then took off to dispose of her. No innocent person acts the way he has been. No break in of the home, the wet spot, the stupid story. It's only a matter of time. But I hope it's soon.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 22, 2009, 11:08:23 AM
I believe the police will be able to nail him. With the GPS, the cell phone pings, etc. they will be able to track him. If they can find her body, hopefully the cold will help her contain enough evidence to find out how he killed her.

He probably put her body in the back of the van, then woke the kids up, put them in the van and drove away. Being that it was in the middle of the night, the children would have slept through any starts and stops. If he stopped at a gas station for gas or coffee, they will have him on camera. On a full tank of gas, the police still have a determinable radius in which to look. He could have dumped her anywhere, but digging a grave in the middle of a snow storm would not be an easy feat.

He is a self serving control freak. Her independence was the last straw. No one was going to leave HIM. It really does sound like he poisoned her, waited for her to die, then took off to dispose of her. No innocent person acts the way he has been. No break in of the home, the wet spot, the stupid story. It's only a matter of time. But I hope it's soon.

I agree Boo - it is only a matter of time.

I wonder if he moved her body with the rental car to a lake or river since it would have been difficult to dig a hole in that climate.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: bananas on December 22, 2009, 11:18:02 AM
I believe the police will be able to nail him. With the GPS, the cell phone pings, etc. they will be able to track him. If they can find her body, hopefully the cold will help her contain enough evidence to find out how he killed her.

He probably put her body in the back of the van, then woke the kids up, put them in the van and drove away. Being that it was in the middle of the night, the children would have slept through any starts and stops. If he stopped at a gas station for gas or coffee, they will have him on camera. On a full tank of gas, the police still have a determinable radius in which to look. He could have dumped her anywhere, but digging a grave in the middle of a snow storm would not be an easy feat.

He is a self serving control freak. Her independence was the last straw. No one was going to leave HIM. It really does sound like he poisoned her, waited for her to die, then took off to dispose of her. No innocent person acts the way he has been. No break in of the home, the wet spot, the stupid story. It's only a matter of time. But I hope it's soon.

I agree Boo - it is only a matter of time.

I wonder if he moved her body with the rental car to a lake or river since it would have been difficult to dig a hole in that climate.

Yes agreed.  I think the police are still collecting evidence and making sure when they arrest him, it is going to stick.  The guy is acting crazier than a loon!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 22, 2009, 11:36:14 AM
I agree the police are waiting for the right time to pounce on this creep, I just hope he is still in the country when it is time  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 22, 2009, 11:49:37 AM
Who is financially backing Josh Powell while justice for Susan Powell remains ellusive?

Janet

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The husband of Utah mom Susan Powell who has been missing for a week has hired a prominent criminal defense attorney.
Susan Powell, 28, Feared Dead After Disappearing Dec. 7
By LISA FLETCHER, LEE FERRAN and SARAH NETTER
Dec. 14, 2009


The office of attorney Scott Williams confirmed for ABC News today that he is now representing Joshua Powell, Susan Powell's husband. Williams is a leading criminal attorney in the area and his recent clients include Wanda Barzee, who has pleaded guilty in the 2002 kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/susan-powell-missing-utah-mom-missing-week/story?id=9326774



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 22, 2009, 11:52:30 AM
Who is financially backing Josh Powell while justice for Susan Powell remains ellusive?

Janet

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The husband of Utah mom Susan Powell who has been missing for a week has hired a prominent criminal defense attorney.
Susan Powell, 28, Feared Dead After Disappearing Dec. 7
By LISA FLETCHER, LEE FERRAN and SARAH NETTER
Dec. 14, 2009


The office of attorney Scott Williams confirmed for ABC News today that he is now representing Joshua Powell, Susan Powell's husband. Williams is a leading criminal attorney in the area and his recent clients include Wanda Barzee, who has pleaded guilty in the 2002 kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/susan-powell-missing-utah-mom-missing-week/story?id=9326774


I'm going to guess his dad is, but don't really know.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 22, 2009, 12:12:12 PM
The tail is wagging the dog.  Josh Powell is calling the shots.

 ::MonkeyMad::
 
If Josh Powell was determined a POI from the getgo ... why was this guy not under surveillence?  The red flags were all there.  Something is not right.

Janet

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Police ask why Powell drove so far in rental car
By Pat Reavy
Deseret News
Published: Monday, Dec. 21, 2009 9:03 p.m. MST


WEST VALLEY CITY — A car rented by Josh Powell two days after his wife was reported missing was returned just 24 hours later with a lot of miles on it, according to police.

"It looks like there were several hundred miles driven," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News.

Investigators do not know where the car was taken or where Josh Powell was during that 24-hour period. There was no GPS data stored in that rental car, said McLachlan, who declined Monday to say from where the vehicle was rented.

Powell reportedly rented the car after police seized his minivan — his only vehicle — to be processed for evidence in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. The van has since been returned to Josh Powell.

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.

Powell has been named a person of interest in the missing person case by police, but not a suspect.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353130/Police-ask-why-Powell-drove-so-far-in-rental-car.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 22, 2009, 12:25:02 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9114913

Police defend pace of Susan Powell case

December 22, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- West Valley City police say they're feeling pressure in the case of 28-year-old Susan Powell, who has been missing since Dec. 7.

Also, friends say Powell told them a year ago that she was worried about what would happen if she sought a divorce from her husband, Josh Powell, who police call a person of interest in the case.

According to the Salt Lake Tribune, Susan Powell was afraid Josh Powell would try to break her financially and kidnap their children if she left him. She made those statements a year ago. The Tribune reports she even took steps to leave him if necessary, like making a will and setting up a separate bank account. She ultimately decided to stay and work on the relationship.

Meanwhile, West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan says he is feeling heat from the community to make an arrest.

"The pressure is to conduct the investigation of this missing person in a legal fashion where we can get a resolution that will stand up in any court," he says.

In the investigation, police want to know more about a rental car. They tell the Deseret News Josh Powell rented a car two days after his wife was reported missing, then returned it a day later with several hundred miles put on it. Police say they do not know where the car was taken and there was no GPS data stored. Josh Powell has not talked to police about it.

Powell rented the car after police seized his minivan to process it for evidence.

Susan Powell was last seen on Dec. 7, when Josh Powell says he left their suburban home in West Valley City about 12:30 a.m. to take their two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping in freezing conditions. She was reported missing the same day when she failed to show up for her stockbroker job and her children were not dropped off at day care.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 22, 2009, 12:27:23 PM
http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=68191

Susan Powells Father Wants Answers From Her Husband

Reported by:
Tuesday, Dec 22, 2009 @11:01am

The father of Susan Powell is asking that his son-in law start talking.

Chuck Cox says he's expecting answers from his son in law Josh Powell about what happened to his daughter.

“I would like to hear a credible story. I would like to hear the facts of what happened. What does he know, what does he not know, and if it clears him, that's great because now we can get on to the main focus, which is where is my daughter at,” Cox said.

Josh Powell, is the only person of interest in the disappearance of his wife Susan, who vanished from the couple's home in West Valley City, two weeks ago.

Powell is now in seclusion in Washington State with his father, who lives in Puyallup.

Two weeks ago, Josh Powell says he left the couple's home, with his two sons, ages 4 and 2.

He told police he decided to take his kids camping in a very remote mountain area, in 20 degree weather.

When neither Josh, nor Susan reported to work the next day.

Josh told police at first, he lost track of what day it was--and he didn't know what happened to Susan. Josh said she vanished from their home--without a trace.

Josh Powell gave detectives a DNA sample, but would not answer any more questions. Even though police consider him a person of interest in this case--he is free to travel, but Susan's family tells us they're surprised he showed up at a candlelight vigil for Susan, in Washington Sunday night.

Susan's father says the mystery needs to be solved for his two grandchildren.

“She's got two little boys that miss their mommy right now. And I understand the oldest one has been told that mommy is lost somewhere. That's great, I can deal with that, but mommy needs to come home,” Cox said.

An anonymous donor in Utah has now put up a $10,000 reward. CrimeStoppers is offering another $1,000 for information.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 22, 2009, 12:32:29 PM

I think the police are still collecting evidence and making sure when they arrest him, it is going to stick.  The guy is acting crazier than a loon!


bananas

I sincerely hope you are right but ... I am so skeptical.

I am off.  Busy.  Busy. Busy.  EVERYBODY ... young and old ... in my family tells me they still  believes in Santa so ...

 ::santawink::

Have a good day all.

Later, Janet
9:30 AM PT


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MsVada on December 22, 2009, 05:12:11 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34524426#34524426

New details released in the story....looks like Daddy has some splanin' to do about all those miles on the rental car.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 22, 2009, 05:16:33 PM
In my reading on the topic ... often when a wife comes to a place where ahe makes a decision to take an independent stand ... makes a decision to no longer submit ... to no longer appease neverending expectations ... a selfish/controlling/possessive husband cannot deal with it.

Could it be that Josh Powell's selfish/controlling/possessive mindset was ... if he could not have Susan ... nobody could?  This is the reason ... I do fear for the safety of his little boys if Josh is ever under the impression that his arrest for the disappearance of his wife is imminent.

Chuck Cox seems to feel confident that his grandsons are in good hands while in the care of his son-in-law.  He believes that Josh is a good father.  However ... a good father does not harm the mother of his children.  It is said that the best legacy a father can leave his children is to be good to their mother.

Janet

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Susan Powell Reportedly Made Plans to Leave Husband 1 Year Ago, Feared Kidnapping
Tuesday, December 22, 2009


A year before her disappearance, Susan Powell thought about divorcing her husband and even put together a plan in case he tried to kidnap her sons or strip her of her finances, friends told The Salt Lake Tribune.

Susan Powell reportedly told her friends that she went so far as to set up her own bank account, prepare for a place to stay if she left her husband, Joshua Powell, and wrote up an informal will, the paper reported.

Her friends said Susan wanted to make sure they all knew about her plans, the paper reported.

After fasting and praying, Susan made the decision to stay in her marriage, which many friends and family say had improved over the last year, according to the paper.

Susan, 28, was last seen on Dec. 7, when her husband says he left their suburban home in West Valley City at about 12:30 a.m. to take their two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping in freezing conditions.

She was reported missing on the same day when she failed to show up for her stockbroker job and her children were not dropped off at day care.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580882,00.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 22, 2009, 05:40:38 PM
A reporter on HLN said something about they have other suspects ??....but not naming them yet in hopes of ruling them out.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 22, 2009, 06:42:51 PM
A reporter on HLN said something about they have other suspects ??....but not naming them yet in hopes of ruling them out.
I heard that. Also I'm wondering about Josh not taking a lie detector test, that really looks bad, if this is true  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: darla on December 22, 2009, 07:26:04 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

When in the world did it start that you do not have to talk to the police if you don't want to? Geesh, just haul their butts in and don't turn them loose til you get what info you need. I have a feeling that he rented that car and went to where he left her and made sure she was well hidden. If that was my daughter I would be in his face 24/7. Someone in Susan's family needs to go before a judge and get temporary custody of her boys. Josh is crazy and no telling what he could do to those boys. Please Lord protect them.
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 22, 2009, 07:57:01 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

When in the world did it start that you do not have to talk to the police if you don't want to? Geesh, just haul their butts in and don't turn them loose til you get what info you need. I have a feeling that he rented that car and went to where he left her and made sure she was well hidden. If that was my daughter I would be in his face 24/7. Someone in Susan's family needs to go before a judge and get temporary custody of her boys. Josh is crazy and no telling what he could do to those boys. Please Lord protect them.
 

I keep saying that, just like in the Nancy Cooper case, her parents did just that. I'm really afraid what this creep is going to do next. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 22, 2009, 08:09:35 PM

Several of Susan's friends, who wished to remain anonymous, confirmed to the Deseret News that they had turned over e-mails to police that Susan sent them in June and July of 2008, the point at which all friends agreed the Powells' marriage was at its worst.
One of the friends confirmed that in one of the e-mails, Susan was afraid Josh Powell may kidnap her two boys, divorce her or worse.
That friend said Susan talked to her one day about something she had written and left in her desk at work.
"She had mentioned about writing something so that no one would ever think she committed suicide. She said it would be so her boys would know that she would never kill herself because she would never leave her boys alone," the friend said.
"I didn't really know the context in which she was talking. I didn't even know what to say to that."
The friend said that was the only time Susan brought up that topic.
West Valley police declined Tuesday to talk about any potential evidence in the case. Other friends had reported earlier that a notebook Susan kept in her desk at work at Wells Fargo was among the items seized by police.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 22, 2009, 08:35:03 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9114913

FBI profiler says things just aren't adding up in Powell case
December 22, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Police say the husband of missing woman Susan Powell put several hundred miles on a rental car in a 24-hour time period.

Josh Powell rented that car the night his wife was reported missing. Police say he had the rental car for about 24 hours while investigators were processing his van.

Josh Powell attends a vigil for his missing wife in Washington state on Sunday.

During that time, investigators say Josh Powell put several hundred miles on it, but they don't know where he went or what he was doing during that time.

"There is no GPS tracking on the vehicle to indicate where that vehicle may have gone," says West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan.

On the Today Show Tuesday morning, former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt said this case reminds him of two other missing women cases -- one of which is that of the wife of former police officer Drew Peterson.

Van Zandt said Josh's behavior is the opposite of what he would expect from a husband whose wife is missing, and the issue of the rental car also begs more questions.


"We know, of course, he's now the primary caretaker of two young children, but one would think most of his activities would be centered around the house or trying to help law enforcement," Van Zant said. "If that vehicle's been driven hundreds of miles, where might he have gone? And could that have anything to do with his wife's disappearance?"

The Salt Lake Tribune is reporting that Susan told some of her friends she was preparing to leave her husband. The friends, who were not named, said she set up a separate bank account and wrote a will. West Valley police could not confirm those reports.

Investigators have talked to Josh three times since his wife disappeared; he has since stopped talking to them on the advice of his attorney. Police said that keeps them from verifying his initial story that he took his two boys camping.

Meanwhile, McLachlan says he is feeling heat from the community to make an arrest.

"The pressure is to conduct the investigation of this missing person in a legal fashion where we can get a resolution that will stand up in any court," he said.

McLachaln said investigators are awaiting results from the crime lab and say some tests take precise methods that can't be rushed.

Susan Powell was last seen on Dec. 7, when Josh Powell said he left their suburban home in West Valley City about 12:30 a.m. to take their two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping in freezing conditions. She was reported missing the same day when she failed to show up for her stockbroker job and her children were not dropped off at day care.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 22, 2009, 08:38:06 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Friends-say-Susan-Powell-was-preparing-for/6ycFDFkrykGPjeoBZ7M3RQ.cspx


Friends say Susan Powell was preparing for possible divorce

   Reported by: Christiana Brady
Last Update: 5:56 pm

As eyebrows continue to raise at Josh Powell's recent actions, several people are now wondering what went on behind closed doors of the Powell residence.

Powell family friend, Tim Petersen, told us that if goals set by Susan and Josh's marital counselor weren't met, then Susan was planning a divorce by the year's end.

Petersen says he himself, and several of Susan’s other friends encouraged her to leave Josh.  He says Susan was the one who brought Josh to marital counseling where they set goals.  Petersen says, “By the end of the year, he needed to be going to church full time, and by their anniversary, he needed to have his temple recommend.”  Peteresen says Susan took those goals very seriously.  He says, “If he wasn't there, that she was going to divorce him and take the house and the kids.”

Petersen says it was Susan's biggest wish because she was such a devout church goer, that they could get their marriage back to where it was in their early years.

According to public record, Josh had filed for bankruptcy because they were $200,000,000 in debt from credit cards, student loans, furniture, and other debts.

Petersen told us today he wasn't surprised to learn about the family's debt because he knew Josh had been out of work for quite some time.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 22, 2009, 09:00:06 PM
Is it possible to have anymore red flags to why Josh did something to his wife?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: He obviously was not going to have Susan divorce him and take the kids and house.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on December 22, 2009, 09:10:24 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

When in the world did it start that you do not have to talk to the police if you don't want to? Geesh, just haul their butts in and don't turn them loose til you get what info you need. I have a feeling that he rented that car and went to where he left her and made sure she was well hidden. If that was my daughter I would be in his face 24/7. Someone in Susan's family needs to go before a judge and get temporary custody of her boys. Josh is crazy and no telling what he could do to those boys. Please Lord protect them.
 


me to i thought you could be held and questioned for at least 72hrs in most states
under the auspice of suspicion


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 22, 2009, 09:18:31 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

If Josh referred to the excursion that began at 12:30 AM and ended 18 hours later as a "camping trip" ... Charlie will refer to it as a camping trip.  Logic dictates.

Despite all the red flags ... it appears that law enforcement is given Josh Powell the benefit of the doubt.

Janet

++++++

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Police look into rental car in missing mom case

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McLachlan has said Josh Powell has provided police with only vague information about his camping trip, but acknowledged that the 4-year-old boy confirmed the outing in an interview with police.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010570953_aputmissingmomutah2ndldwritethru.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 22, 2009, 09:21:51 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

When in the world did it start that you do not have to talk to the police if you don't want to? Geesh, just haul their butts in and don't turn them loose til you get what info you need. I have a feeling that he rented that car and went to where he left her and made sure she was well hidden. If that was my daughter I would be in his face 24/7. Someone in Susan's family needs to go before a judge and get temporary custody of her boys. Josh is crazy and no telling what he could do to those boys. Please Lord protect them.
 


Again the tail is wagging the dog.

 ::MonkeyMad::

Janet

++++++

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Police look into rental car in missing mom case


"We have an open, standing request to talk to him, whenever he wants to come in for an interview," McLachlan said. "At this point he's refusing to do so through his attorney."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010570953_aputmissingmomutah2ndldwritethru.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 22, 2009, 09:33:32 PM
Why did the red flags not dictate that there should have been surveillence on Josh Powell in the days following his wife's disappearance.  He was given a 24 hour opportunity of furthering an obstruction of the investigation.

In my opinion ... West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan is either incompentent or corrupt.  I sincerely hope I am wrong on both counts and ... stuff is going on behind the scenes.

Janet

+++++

Police ask why Powell drove so far in rental car
By Pat Reavy
Deseret News
Published: Monday, Dec. 21, 2009 9:03 p.m. MST


WEST VALLEY CITY — A car rented by Josh Powell two days after his wife was reported missing was returned just 24 hours later with a lot of miles on it, according to police.

"It looks like there were several hundred miles driven," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News.

Investigators do not know where the car was taken or where Josh Powell was during that 24-hour period. There was no GPS data stored in that rental car, said McLachlan, who declined Monday to say from where the vehicle was rented.

Powell reportedly rented the car after police seized his minivan — his only vehicle — to be processed for evidence in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. The van has since been returned to Josh Powell.

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353130/Police-ask-why-Powell-drove-so-far-in-rental-car.html


Husband of missing mom attends Wash. vigil
Wife's side of the family also is at service; he’s a ‘person of interest’


West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan said Sunday there are no restrictions on Josh Powell's movements.

"He can come and go as he pleases," McLachlan said, adding that police would still like to speak with him again.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34503052/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 23, 2009, 08:44:29 AM

Several of Susan's friends, who wished to remain anonymous, confirmed to the Deseret News that they had turned over e-mails to police that Susan sent them in June and July of 2008, the point at which all friends agreed the Powells' marriage was at its worst.
One of the friends confirmed that in one of the e-mails, Susan was afraid Josh Powell may kidnap her two boys, divorce her or worse.
That friend said Susan talked to her one day about something she had written and left in her desk at work.
"She had mentioned about writing something so that no one would ever think she committed suicide. She said it would be so her boys would know that she would never kill herself because she would never leave her boys alone," the friend said.
"I didn't really know the context in which she was talking. I didn't even know what to say to that."
The friend said that was the only time Susan brought up that topic.
West Valley police declined Tuesday to talk about any potential evidence in the case. Other friends had reported earlier that a notebook Susan kept in her desk at work at Wells Fargo was among the items seized by police.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 23, 2009, 08:49:36 AM
'Real' Reality TV-Josh Powell, You Can`t Ever Get Away!

http://thesop.org/opinion/2009/12/23/real-reality-tvjosh-powell-you-cant-ever-get-away


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 23, 2009, 11:53:54 AM
Cell phone, notes could provide answers into Susan Powell disappearance

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC4 News) - A prepaid cell phone Josh Powell purchased at Walmart could provide details as to where Powell went while racking up hundreds of miles in a rental car. A note has also surfaced that was written about a year and a half ago. Susan said if she ended up dead it "wouldn't be suicide".

Tim Petersen, Powell's neighbor tells ABC 4 news that Powell came over to their house on Wednesday evening, just days after Susan disappeared and told them about a new phone he bought and asked for a ride to pick up his minivan. Petersen said, "We asked about Susan but he didn't want to talk about her. He only wanted to talk about his new clothes and phone."

West Valley City Police confirmed they are looking into phone and financial records. However, they didn't confirm exactly who's records they are reviewing. But the cell phone provider could potentially pinpoint Powell's whereabouts during that 24 hour period.

Petersen also says when Powell came to his house he had the worst case of wind burned he'd ever seen. Petersen said they were bright red and he had a bottle of lotion with him and kept applying it on his hands.

Police took Powell's van Monday night, between that night and Wednesday Powell put hundreds of miles on his rental car. Petersen thinks he may have gone back to the campground. "I just kind of speculate he went out there again and I wonder why would someone do that?"

But, if Powell did go back out there that could explain his red hands. That Monday was bitter cold, in the middle of the first wave of a major storm and the wind chills in the area were in the low teens.

Friends and family members are passing along emails and notes from Susan to police. Investigators are working hard to crack this case and are still asking anyone who may know anything in regards to Susan's disappearance to come forward.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Cell-phone-notes-could-provide-answers-into-Susan/n8xTFRQLOkKihW2iYi34wA.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 23, 2009, 11:57:18 AM
PRESS RELEASE
12/23/2009
0800 PST
Contact: Shelby Gifford
253.255.1624
Shelby@theshelbynetwork.com (email preferred)

Puyallup WA: The Cox family has issued a request that everybody who hears this message performs an act of kindness for another in Susan Cox Powel's name between now and New Year's Day. Susan is a shining example of service to others and the Cox family hopes that by doing a good deed, those receiving the acts of kindness will benefit, as well as those who are performing them.

The Cox family continues to be gratified by the acts of service being performed on their behalf, and hopes, in this small way, they will be able to bring peace and comfort to those whose lives are affected by Susan's disappearance.

If you have any information about Susan, please contact investigators at the West Valley City Police Department at 801-840-4000.

###END###

http://www.facebook.com/#/topic.php?uid=198478842187&topic=15787


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 23, 2009, 12:29:04 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353538/Mystery-haunts-Susans-friend.html


Mystery haunts Susan Powell's friend

By Lee Benson

Deseret News
Published: Tuesday, Dec. 22, 2009 10:21 p.m. MST

WEST VALLEY CITY — Kiirsi Hellewell sure never saw this one coming.

Two and a half weeks ago, on a cold but dry December Sunday, the 34-year-old mother of three walked home from church with her best friend, Susan Powell.

As Kiirsi turned toward her front door, Susan said "bye" and continued walking up the street and around the corner to her house.

She hasn't heard from Susan since.

And since later that night, neither has anyone else.

"It's like we're watching this horrible nightmare and all the time thinking, 'How can it be us? How can it be happening here?' " says Kiirsi, who has found herself thrust into the eye of the "Where is Susan Powell?" storm that is attracting national and even worldwide attention.

She and her husband, John, were — are — especially close friends of Susan Powell and her husband, Josh. They met five and a half years ago when the Powells bought a house in the same working-class neighborhood on the west side of the Salt Lake Valley just eight months after the Hellewells moved in.

"Something just clicked," says Kiirsi. "We got very close."

Both the media and the police have sought out the Hellewells in an attempt to learn more about the Powells — Susan because she's missing and can't respond and Josh because he isn't missing but won't respond.

Kiirsi is doing all she can think of to find her best friend. She organized a Facebook page (Friends and Family of Susan Powell) as a clearinghouse for information, comments and encouragement that has expanded to 9,000 members. She is dispersing "Missing" fliers from her front room to anyone and everyone who will take a handful or a boxful.

And out in the driveway, the family van is all gassed up, ready to search — if only some clue would arrive that would tell them where to start.

"It is so frustrating," she sighs. "We want to look, but we don't know where."

Equally frustrating is the enigma that is Josh Powell. In the days after Susan disappeared, right up until he took his two sons to Washington to elude the media and police and be with family over the holidays, Susan's husband took regular refuge in Kiirsi's front room, alternating between sobbing and setting up a Web site to help in the investigation.

He never finished either one.

"I just so wanted to ask him so many questions," says Kiirsi. "But I didn't know how."

She knows Susan and Josh had their problems. She knows they had to take out bankruptcy two years ago. She knows they were going through counseling. She knows Josh stopped going to church and Susan kept going. She knows intimate details about such things because she and Susan "talked and talked and talked."

She also knows Josh Powell's story about leaving on a camping trip after midnight with their two young sons the weekend Susan went missing makes about as much sense as O.J. chipping golf balls in the dark in his front yard the night Nicole was killed.

"She (Susan) would not have signed off on that (midnight camping trip)," says Kiirsi. "She would never have allowed her kids to go. I know that."

But it's what she doesn't know that haunts her day and night.

She doesn't know where Susan is.

"My poor kids," says Susan Powell's best friend, looking around her front room that is devoid of Christmas decorations, "they don't even know it's Christmas. I know, Susan's dad has asked us to not forget that it's Christmas. But all I want for Christmas is to have her back."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 23, 2009, 12:39:30 PM
Petersen also says when Powell came to his house he had the worst case of wind burned he'd ever seen. Petersen said they were bright red and he had a bottle of lotion with him and kept applying it on his hands.    ::MonkeyEek::  Okay, I know it is very hard to dig in frozen ground, but not impossible, for his hands to be so wind burned, he was obviously taking a great deal of time outside. You would think he would have had gloves on, but this use less fool didn't even think to do that. And all he wanted to talk about with his neighbor was clothes and a phone, this guy doesn't even pretend to at least care.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: chi-monkey on December 23, 2009, 02:05:46 PM
Thanks for those articles, all the warning signs were there, how I wish she would have grabbed her kids and left, but it sure appears that Susan was trying to do the right things for her boys by staying with their father  ::MonkeyNoNo::

No Rose, I wonder what the number is of women killed while trying to do the right thing for the children by staying in an abusive relationship.   It seems that he was probably not physically abusive to her, but dangerous anyway.   

I suspect he drugged her with that dinner for purposes we can guess.  Accidentally overdosed her, or she wakened and figured it out with violent results.    IMO of course. 

Makes me so angry too that Josh's father was apparently stoking the fire in frequent phone talks.   Probably telling him to take charge and make her "do right" if he's a real man.     

Think I'm about to overheat!  Sorry.   ::MonkeyMad::

JMOO

Chi-M


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 23, 2009, 02:11:47 PM
Thanks for those articles, all the warning signs were there, how I wish she would have grabbed her kids and left, but it sure appears that Susan was trying to do the right things for her boys by staying with their father  ::MonkeyNoNo::

No Rose, I wonder what the number is of women killed while trying to do the right thing for the children by staying in an abusive relationship.   It seems that he was probably not physically abusive to her, but dangerous anyway.   

I suspect he drugged her with that dinner for purposes we can guess.  Accidentally overdosed her, or she wakened and figured it out with violent results.    IMO of course. 

Makes me so angry too that Josh's father was apparently stoking the fire in frequent phone talks.   Probably telling him to take charge and make her "do right" if he's a real man.     

Think I'm about to overheat!  Sorry.   ::MonkeyMad::

JMOO

Chi-M

I think you are right, I'm also wondering if he was poisoning her a little bit at a time for awhile? Josh's father sounds like a real winner just like his son  ::MonkeyNoNo:: makes me ill.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 23, 2009, 04:01:38 PM
Missing Utah Mom Investigation Focusing On Car Her Husband Rented, E-Mails

ABC News
Published: December 23, 2009
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Salt Lake City, Utah—E-mails from missing mother Susan Powell to her friends have now been turned over to investigators and reported in Salt Lake Newspapers.

The e-mails say she lives in fear that her husband might kidnap her two boys, divorce her, or worse. The e-mails were written last year, when her friends say her marriage was at its lowest point. Susan writes that her Husband Joshua is very controlling.

Susan was reported missing December 7th. Two days later, police confiscated the family’s van to search for evidence. It was the couple’s only vehicle, but when husband Joshua went to the Salt Lake Airport, to rent a car, it somehow took investigators by surprise.

Capt. Tom McLachlan, West Valley City Police Department: “We were unaware that he had gotten a rental car and was on the move. He had that rental car for 24 hours, or less.“

In that short time Joshua drove more than 200 miles.


Mike von Fremd, reporting: “Just what he did with the rental car, and where he drove it, is one of many questions investigators want answered. Police have not filed any charges, but investigators are learning painful personal details about a missing mother who in her own words, feared her husband.“

http://www2.wjbf.com/jbf/news/national/article/missing_utah_mom_investigation_focusing_on_car_her_husband_rented_e-mails/46896/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 23, 2009, 04:08:06 PM
I just cannot understand how Josh was not under surveillance by LE.  Come on - it only took his initial camping story for me to have bad vibes about him.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 23, 2009, 04:15:30 PM
Neighbors Say Husband Possibly Involved in Disappearance of Susan Powell (With Video)

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - Neighbors of Susan Powell are now saying they believe her husband, Josh, was somehow involved in her disappearance. The 28-year-old woman was reported missing on Dec. 7, 2009 when she failed to appear at work and her children were not dropped off at day care. Josh, the only person of interest in the case, told police he took his two sons, ages 2 and 4, camping that day at about 12:30 a.m. in subfreezing temperatures and returned in the evening.

One family friend of the Powell's, Jim Peterson, said Josh came over just days after his wife was reported missing, acting very odd, avoiding any conversation about Susan and talked about some new clothes that he purchased. Peterson also said police took Josh's cell phone and he purchased a new one at Wal-Mart. Authorities are not confirming the phone, but they said Josh rented a car and drove it several hundred miles in a matter of days while his van was being searched.

Peterson said he developed a close relationship with Susan and feared for her life. He said that Susan would confide in him about their marriage and would e-mail him from her workplace because Josh was "possessive and controlling." Peterson said Josh would not allow Susan to have any access to the computers at her home.

"I believe that he was involved in her disapperance," Peterson said.

Peterson said Susan tried to work hard on her marriage, but Josh continually grew more withdrawn.

Josh is currently in Washington State with his two sons spending the holidays with his family. He attended a candlelight vigil there, while another similar vigil was held in West Valley City.

"It's really strengthening and uplifting to know that everybody, all these millions of strangers that we don't know are praying for Susan and for her family and hoping for the best it's really something that's help keeping hope alive," said Susan's friend, Kiirsi Hellewell.

Police still want to question Josh since he was the last person to see Susan.

"We would still dearly love to have an interview with him and have an open request, invitation, whatever you want to call it...for him to do that," said McLachlan.

Police searched the area near Simpson Springs, where Josh said he took his two sons camping, but they found nothing. Police are calling the case "highly suspicious" and ask anyone with information on Susan's whereabouts to call 801-840-4000.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-neighbors-josh-possibly-involved-susan-powell,0,1188310.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 23, 2009, 04:18:30 PM
Missing mom's father-in-law: My son is the scapegoat

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/79861232.html?tab=video


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 23, 2009, 05:44:46 PM
I just cannot understand how Josh was not under surveillance by LE.  Come on - it only took his initial camping story for me to have bad vibes about him.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
I'm completely stumped by this, it makes no sense. That stupid smores/camping trip will two little boys in freezing temps should have set off tons of red flags  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 23, 2009, 06:06:22 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353673/Friend-Powell-took-time-getting-home.html


Powell took his time getting home, neighbor says

By Pat Reavy

Deseret News
Published: Wednesday, Dec. 23, 2009 2:23 p.m. MST

WEST VALLEY CITY — When Josh Powell was first told his wife was missing, it took him two hours to get home, even though he said he had been driving around West Valley City, according to a neighbor and friend of Susan Powell.

The same neighbor said Josh Powell didn't wanted to talk about his wife's disappearance in the early days of the investigation, despite repeated questions from friends.

These and other details of Josh Powell's unusual behavior in the days following his wife's disappearance were revealed Wednesday. She has not been seen since Dec. 6. Police say her husband is a person of interest in the case but not a suspect.

His strange behavior since his wife went missing has resulted in numerous questions being asked by friends and family members.

Tim Petersen is a neighbor of the Powells and a member of their LDS Church ward. He and his wife are good friends with Susan Powell, and Petersen has helped her with her marriage counseling.

On Dec. 7, police were called to the Powell house after the couple failed to show up for work and their children were not dropped off at day care. The day-care providers contacted Josh Powell's mother, who went to the house and found it locked. Fearing a carbon monoxide incident, she called police.

Josh Powell later told police he had decided to go camping about midnight on Dec. 6 in rural Tooele County and took his two sons, ages 2 and 4, with him.

Petersen said friends and family members tried several times to call Josh Powell on his cell phone Dec. 7. When Powell finally answered, Petersen said, he didn't seem very panicked when they told him his wife was missing and no one had any idea where she was.

"They told him, 'The police are here at your house. You might want to come home.' It took him two hours. When we asked him where he had been, he just said, 'I've been driving around West Valley City.' It took him two hours to get home. He wasn't in a big hurry to get home and find his wife, he just … I don't know. It's a really crappy situation," Petersen said.

The odd behavior continued over the next two days as police started combing the Powell house for evidence. Investigators seized the Powells' lone vehicle, a minivan, to look for possible clues. They also took Josh Powell's cell phone and many items from inside his house, including his bedding and a carpet cleaner, Petersen said.

"They started completely tearing his house apart," he said.

Soon after police took Powell's cell phone, he went to Walmart and got a pre-paid cell phone, Petersen said.

More information was also revealed Wednesday about the alleged wet spot police found in the Powell home.

Another church member helped police get into the house shortly after Susan Powell's disappearance, Petersen said. The church member later told Petersen he had seen two fans aimed at a wet spot on the carpet in the front room. There were toys also scattered around the floor, he said.

Josh Powell stopped by the Petersens' house on Wednesday Dec. 9, but didn't want to talk about his wife at all despite their continuous questioning about what might have happened to her.

"He wanted to talk about everything else. He sat there in a daze. He was ticked off police took his van," Petersen said. "He was just being extremely careful about everything he said."

Petersen said it was very uncharacteristic of Josh Powell, who he described as normally very chatty.

"All he wants to do is talk. He dominates conversations," Petersen said. "It was extremely odd" that he didn't want to talk about his wife.

Josh Powell was not asking the questions that Petersen believes most husbands in that situation would ask, such as: What happened? When did it happen? Where did it happen?

Petersen said that he noticed, while Powell was sitting on the Petersens' couch, that the man's hands "were just absolutely wind burned."

"They were just toast from the wind. His hands were absolutely toast. He kept taking a bottle of lotion out and putting it on his hands," Petersen said.

When Josh and Susan Powell were first married, both were very active in the LDS Church, Petersen said. They were sealed in the temple. But once they moved to Utah, Josh Powell stopped attending church.

Petersen said the Powells' marriage counselor instructed Susan Powell to set specific goals. Susan Powell told her husband that her goal was for him to become active in the church again by the end of 2009 and to have his temple recommend again by their anniversary in the spring. Otherwise, she was going to divorce him and take the children, Petersen said.

Anyone with information on Susan Powell can call West Valley police at 801-840-4000.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 23, 2009, 06:14:37 PM

Petersen said the Powells' marriage counselor instructed Susan Powell to set specific goals. Susan Powell told her husband that her goal was for him to become active in the church again by the end of 2009 and to have his temple recommend again by their anniversary in the spring. Otherwise, she was going to divorce him and take the children, Petersen said.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: The goal of Josh becoming active in the church again by the end of 2009, I guess he didn't want to accomplish that goal. And a creep like that, no way was Susan going to take the children and divorce. I don't ever think I've seen anyone quite like Josh before, he can't or won't even pretend that he cares about where his wife is at. Usually you get some kind of performance, most unbelievable, but this guy doesn't even do that.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 23, 2009, 07:20:49 PM
Susan Powell's best friend says recent reports could be damaging to investigation

Susan Powell's best friend talks exclusively with ABC4 tonight, saying the information from "anonymous leaks" to local publications may be hurting the police investigation.
Kiirsi Hellewell says she's questioning why these so called sources are going to local news outlets instead of the police.  Kiirsi says she's skeptical about some of the recent revelations printed in local publications.  She says Susan told her "pretty much everything".  She's worried the recent leaks might be hindering the work of the police.

Hellewell says, “I'm just surprised by some of the things that came out this week because it's not anything she's ever told me before, and she pretty much told me everything.”  She adds that she doesn't know who these “anonymous sources” are, but she encourages anyone with fact-based valuable information to go straight to the police.  Hellewell says, “A lot of us, even though we really want to help, it's really not helping.  It's hurting more by talking about all these details that really should be kept between the police.”

Hellewell says there are a couple items she found especially shocking.  Local reports stated Susan was “afraid Josh Powell might kidnap her two boys… divorce her or worse."  Hellewell says Susan never told her that.

She also said she had never heard of any sort of will with "writing something so that no one would ever think she committed suicide,"  or stating "it would be so her boys would know that she would never kill herself, because she would never leave her boys alone."

          Susan's best friend told us she has complete faith in the police and wants to respect their work.  Hellewell says, “They know so many things that they're not sharing with us, and they can't, because they're investigating it.”

She told us she hopes the focus stays on bringing Susan back home to her two children because she says Susan's oldest son is starting to miss his mommy.  Hellewell says, “I know that he doesn't understand why she's gone, somebody whose always been there for him, for every step of his life.”

Susan's family put out a press release today asking those who want to help to go out and do an act of service over the holidays, in the name of Susan.  They say Susan was a person of service and they hope this will help to honor her.


http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Susan-Powells-best-friend-says-recent-reports/MBlD-1qZiU6rVNfZLj874A.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 23, 2009, 07:25:54 PM



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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 23, 2009, 07:59:57 PM

Powell once yelled at the Petersons for taking off their shoes and socks in his home, saying he'd have to spend all night cleaning the floors from the germs on their bare feet.  ::MonkeyEek:: This guy is a major piece of work, what about the germs from shoes? And it would have been Susan cleaning the floors from germs, not him, I'm sure.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 23, 2009, 08:08:22 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9126729

Professor: Husband is innocent until proven guilty
December 23, 2009

WEST VALLEY CITY -- With each day that passes, the likelihood that Susan Powell will be found alive dwindles. With very few leads in the case, police, family, friends and the public are frustrated. But a criminal law professor warns Josh Powell is still innocent until proven guilty.

Police have stayed tight lipped about the case, and Josh Powell is not speaking out on the advice of his attorney. But University of Utah criminal law professor Daniel Medwed hopes the public will resist the tendency to jump to conclusions.

It's been more than two weeks since 28-year-old Susan Powell vanished -- seemingly without a trace.

Medwed said, "I know the public is eager for an arrest to occur."

Her husband, Josh Powell, is the only person of interest, and now he has taken the couple's two children to Washington state indefinitely. Few details about the case have come from police, but Medwed believes it's a strategy.

He said, "It seems like the police department here is really being careful in terms of dotting its I's and crossing its T's to make sure that it actually has probable cause to make the arrest."

Medwed said police have not named Josh a suspect; when there is really no technical difference between a person of interest and a suspect.

But if they name him a "suspect," Medwed said it implied an arrest was coming soon, and police may be waiting for more direct evidence to link him to Susan's disappearance.

He said police could arrest Josh based on circumstantial evidence, some of which includes:>

    * A wet spot found on the carpet with fans
    * A rental car with hundreds of miles logged
    * The couple's history of financial problems
    * News of a pre-paid cell phone Josh purchased
    * And his improbable alibi of a camping trip the night Susan disappeared.

"The behavior is odd -- whether she was abducted by somebody else or whether he played a role in her death -- taking your toddlers out in the middle of the night to go camping in December in Utah is aberrant behavior," Medwed said.

But he said Josh Powell was innocent until proven guilty, and he encouraged the public to reserve judgment. He said, "I think it's a natural assumption, Jennifer, but I think it's one we should try to resist."

There is now over $10,000 worth of rewards being offered for new information about the case.

For Christmas, Susan's family is requesting good deeds be done in her honor.

Police look at e-mails in Powell case

Friends say they've turned e-mails from missing West Valley City woman Susan Powell over to police.

The friends, who wished to remain anonymous, tell the Deseret News the e-mails were sent last summer, when the Powell's marriage was at its worst.

They say the e-mails outline Susan's fears of what her husband might do to her or their children. According to one friend, Susan Powell said she was afraid her husband might kidnap her two boys, divorce her or worse.

One friend also says Susan talked about leaving a note at work to say she would never commit suicide.

A separate report says she told some of her friends that she had set up a separate bank account and wrote a will.

Police are not confirming those reports.

Susan Powell was last seen on Dec. 7, when Josh Powell said he left their suburban home in West Valley City about 12:30 a.m. to take their two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping in freezing conditions. She was reported missing the same day when she failed to show up for her stockbroker job and her children were not dropped off at day care.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 23, 2009, 08:50:00 PM
THE REASON FOR THE SEASON – JESUS

Luke 2:8-11

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.  And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.  And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS MONKEYS![/b]


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 23, 2009, 09:10:20 PM
I hope you and your family have a very Merry Christmas Janet  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 23, 2009, 09:11:13 PM
THE REASON FOR THE SEASON – JESUS

Luke 2:8-11

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.  And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.  And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS MONKEYS![/b]


How sweet Janet - thank you!  Merry Christmas  ::MonkeyAngel:: 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 23, 2009, 09:46:54 PM
THE REASON FOR THE SEASON – JESUS

Luke 2:8-11

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.  And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.  And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS MONKEYS![/b]


Merry Christmas Tamikosmom ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 23, 2009, 10:34:41 PM
Chuck Cox:  There has been an account set up for donations to help our family search for Susan the account is with the "FAA First Federal Credit Union" Account 101422 the name of the account is "Family of Susan Powell". I am told that donations can be made through the shared branching network of credit unions see www.cuservicecenter.com

http://www.facebook.com/#/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=198478842187


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 24, 2009, 09:15:21 AM
Report describes Joshua Powell’s reaction to news Susan Powell was missing (video)
Posted by Amanda Collins On December - 24 - 2009


A report by the Deseret News details Joshua Powell’s response to the news that his wife, Susan Powell was missing. The article chronicles an interview with Tim Peterson, a neighbor of the Powells as well as a close friend of Susan Powell’s.

The Powells were members of the LDS Church, yet Joshua Powell had reportedly stopped attending. Susan wanted Joshua to get back into church with her, or else she would divorce him. Tim Peterson was providing counseling to Susan as she struggled in her marriage.

According to the Deseret News, Susan Powell has not been seen since December 6, 2009 and on December 7, 2009 friends and family were notified that Susan and Joshua did not show up for work that day. Also, the couple’s two children did not go to preschool. The first to be notified regarding the disappearance of the family was Joshua’s mother. She feared that the family was in dire straits and contacted authorities.

Tim Peterson told the Deseret that he tried several times to contact Josh Powell on the 7th, and when he finally made contact, Joshua did not seem concerned about his wife’s whereabouts. It took him approximately 2 hours to return home and when asked where he was he stated that he was ‘driving around West Valley City.’ Tim Peterson also said that in the days following, Joshua had no interest or concern in speaking about his wife. He describes Joshua’s behavior as odd and out of character.

The Deseret also confirmed information regarding the wet spot that police described seeing on the carpet. A fellow church member had assisted authorities to enter the home and the church member said that they saw the wet spot with fans blowing in its direction.

One of the most disturbing things that Tim Peterson noticed regarding Josh Powell’s behavior was his hands. He said that his hands were extremely wind burned and that he continually put lotion on his hands. The report comes after police have secured five search warrants and are seeking a sixth warrant to examine a rental car that Josh Powell used after his van was confiscated by police.

Authorities state that Josh Powell put several hundred miles on the rental car but hasn’t admitted to where he traveled.
 
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=1916


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 24, 2009, 12:37:45 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9135550

Relative: Missing woman's husband has said little
December 24, 2009

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- The sister-in-law of a missing Utah woman says the woman's husband has said little to his family since his wife disappeared.

Jennifer Graves told NBC's "Today" on Thursday that her brother Josh Powell has told his family no more than what he's told police about the disappearance of his wife, Susan. She was last seen Dec. 7. Powell has told police he left her at home about 12:30 a.m. that day to go camping with their 2- and 4-year-old sons in freezing temperatures.

Graves is Josh Powell's sister. She says she is close to Susan and they frequently spent time together. She says she is saddened that her brother won't "speak up more on behalf of his wife."

Police say the case is still a missing persons investigation but have labeled Josh Powell as a "person of interest."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on December 24, 2009, 12:40:56 PM
I was thinking maybe LE is waiting for the holidays to end before arresting Josh...so that the children will not be traumatized by losing both parents. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on December 24, 2009, 12:48:00 PM
Sister is Saddened ?  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Dad should just kick his ass until they find the truth...  ::hohohosanta::
So there kids wont be traumatised by not knowing for the rest of there lives..



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on December 25, 2009, 01:45:25 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-susan-powell-family-ed-smart,0,538443.story

Elizabeth Smart's Family Reaching Out To Susan Powell's Kin


Ben Winslow Fox 13 News

7:56 PM MST, December 24, 2009
(video at link)

SALT LAKE CITY - As the search for Susan Powell drags on with no new clues about where the missing West Valley City mother may be, her family is getting support from the family of a high-profile disappearance.

Ed Smart said he has been speaking to Susan Powell's family in Washington state almost daily.

"It's just very tough," Smart told Fox 13 News of their situation. "The main thing we've been talking about is how to move forward. How to deal with it on a personal level. How you survive the ups and downs and all that."

Smart said he has been speaking to Charles Cox, Susan Powell's father, and trying to help them keep Powell's picture out there. West Valley City police said Thursday they continued to chase leads in the case, but had no new developments.

There are some similarities to Susan Powell's disappearance on Dec. 7 and Elizabeth Smart's abduction back in 2002. At one point, Ed Smart and other family members were considered suspects in his daughter's disappearance. Elizabeth was found nine months later in the company of homeless street preacher Brian David Mitchell and his wife, Wanda Barzee.

"Person of interest or whatever you want to call it," he said. "Yes, and really the family is the first avenue that law enforcement have to look at and clear. In our case we just said, 'whatever you want, we'll do it' and move forward."

Smart told Fox 13 News he did find it strange that Joshua Powell doesn't appear to be out pushing the search efforts to find his wife. Powell has been considered a "person of interest" in his wife's disappearance, but police have also expressed frustration about their efforts to question him.

"If my wife were the one missing, I certainly wouldn't be leaving home. Maybe he has some reason for that, I don't know," Smart said.

Susan Powell's family put out a request on a Facebook page dedicated to the search effort asking for acts of kindness between now and New Year's as a way of keeping her memory alive.

"Susan is a shining example of service to others and the Cox family hopes that by doing a good deed, those receiving the acts of kindness will benefit, as well as those who are performing them," family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford wrote. "The Cox family continues to be gratified by the acts of service being performed on their behalf, and hopes, in this small way, they will be able to bring peace and comfort to those whose lives are affected by Susan's disappearance."

Gifford said in an e-mail to FOX 13 News that Ed Smart is "a most gracious man" who has been an invaluable service to them throughout the ordeal. Smart said Powell's father, Charles Cox, continues to hold out hope that Susan will return home safe.

"I think that Chuck, as I've talked to him, that he hopes that somehow she's still alive. He certainly has concerns," he said. "Great concerns."

A $10,000 reward is also being offered that helps lead to Susan Powell's recovery. Anyone with information is urged to call West Valley City police at 801-840-4000.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on December 25, 2009, 01:51:13 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: BooMonkey on December 25, 2009, 09:15:04 PM

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I really hope they have enough to nail his azz down after Christmas! I'm sure he had a grand ol time today with his children and no wife to weigh him down. Susan will be found and he will go to jail.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 25, 2009, 11:07:07 PM
Social Media Blitz Planned to Help Find Susan Powell

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - The search for Susan Powell is going viral. A social media blitz is being planned for the first week in January to bring awareness to the missing West Valley City mother.

A Facebook group set up by supporters of Susan Powell's family has doubled in the number of followers in just a week. A Twitter account has also been set up to help publicize the search efforts, as well as a new YouTube channel with video slideshows of Susan Powell.

"They're things that can really take off," said James Hofheins, who created the @FindSusan twitter account and helps to manage the Facebook group. "They're things that can get the message out to so many people so fast."

Hofheins has never met Powell, but he felt compelled to help. This week, Susan Powell's family asked people to go out and perform a good deed between now and New Year's in the missing woman's name.

Powell vanished December 7 from her West Valley City home. Since then, her husband, Josh, has been labeled a "person of interest" in the suspicious disappearance. That has led to considerable speculation on the Internet. Hofheins told Fox 13 News that they try to keep the focus on finding Susan.

"We find ourselves sometimes getting a little overshadowed by the suspicions, by the speculation," he said. "But we're strong in our message, 'Find Susan' and that's what it's about."

A $10,000 reward is being offered for information that helps to find Susan Powell. Anyone with information is urged to call West Valley City police at 801-840-4000.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-search-for-susan-goes-viral,0,7945122.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 26, 2009, 02:37:58 PM
Susan Powell's father sees his grandsons

WEST VALLEY CITY — Chuck Cox finally got to see his grandsons on Christmas Eve. But there was still a feeling of emptiness as he was still without his daughter and the boys without their mother.

Susan Powell was last seen nearly three weeks ago. West Valley police Saturday said they did not have any updates on the search for her.

Chuck Cox posted a message on the "Friends and Family of Susan Powell" Facebook page, updating friends and supporters of their Christmas.

"It has been a very difficult few days. We were able to see Charlie and Braden on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day for several hours," he wrote. "Both are in good health and spirits and seemed to be unaffected by the current situation. We have pictures of Susan and her family up, so I was a little concerned; but the boys just went on playing, so I feel they are doing well. Susan's mother and I, however, have been having issues in those quiet moments as we observe the boys and family. We went through the motions of Christmas, but it didn't fill the emptiness. We are comforted by all of your prayers and support."

Chuck Cox still lives in Puyallup, Wash., where Susan grew up. Until Christmas Eve, he had not had a chance to talk with Susan's two sons since his daughter disappeared.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705354250/Susan-Powells-father-sees-grandsons.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: BooMonkey on December 28, 2009, 08:18:30 AM
True Crime: Cold Blog

So, a 28-year-old Mormon mother of two young boys runs off two weeks before Christmas, leaving her keys, purse and cell phone behind, while her husband is off making s’mores with their sons on a midnight camping trip to the desert in frigid weather with snow on the ground?

I find that highly unlikely for so many reasons I hardly even know where to start.

Susan Powell’s family, friends and neighbors say she would never do such a thing, nor would she allow her husband to take their sons out in such conditions. It wasn't even 24 hours before her family reported her missing to police, alarmed that she failed to show up for work and didn’t call her sons’ day care center to warn them that the boys wouldn’t be coming in. This immediate concern shows how close she was to her family, and the fact that she hasn’t checked in with them since the evening of December 6, when she was last seen by a visiting neighbor, makes it seem doubtful that she is hiding out somewhere, planning for the split she had discussed with friends from church over the past year.

It was no secret that she and her husband, Joshua, had been having marital problems over the past couple of years, that he was obsessive, possessive, and controlling, and that she feared he would kidnap the kids if she left him. Financial problems, including $200,000 in debts and a bankruptcy filing in 2007, clearly must have added stress to the relationship as well. Abusive men with these types of character traits also don't like it when their female partners take steps to become more independent, such as Susan's move to open her own bank account and to work towards becoming a stockbroker.

By the time Joshua returned from his camping trip on December 7, allegedly to the Pony Express Trail, the police were already on the case. But he wasn't very forthcoming with detectives, who were unable to verify his alibi because the area where he claimed to have taken the boys, some 200 miles from home, was already covered with fresh snow. Because of his less than cooperative spirit, including his failure to show up to a scheduled police interview, detectives have since named Joshua as a "person of interest," but not a suspect as yet. Joshua has since lawyered up, hiring the same attorney as the wife of accused child abductor Phillip Garrido.

Some people have questioned why police have not arrested Joshua. Well, detectives must first gather enough evidence for a prosecutor to be able to win a case in court, because a legal clock immediately starts ticking after an arrest as the preliminary hearing and trial approach. Besides, sometimes suspects do stupid things when they’re left free to roam around and incriminate themselves.

In the meantime, several other things have raised suspicions. I’d like to know more about Joshua's badly chapped hands, which have been described in news reports as “wind burned.” Although he did submit to a DNA sample, I'm guessing that Joshua hasn’t allowed any CSI investigator to examine whether his hands may have been burned by chemicals, either a cleaning solution or possibly something more acidic. I’m also wondering why he was driving hundreds of miles in a rental car while police were processing the family van for evidence. Where did he go and what was he doing? Others have questioned his recent trip with the boys to visit his father in Washington rather than staying in town and helping with the search for his wife.

I've spent the past five years researching and writing a book about a case that started out as a missing persons’ case and turned into a homicide, so I am very familiar with what good detectives do to build a winning case should this one go that way. Like Susan Powell, Tom and Jackie Hawks also had a very close and loving family who doubted the story told by the last two people to see them alive, Skylar and Jennifer Deleon, so Tom Hawks’ brother reported them missing after they didn’t show up for Thanksgiving. The Deleons have since been convicted of first-degree murder, and Skylar, a wanna-be hermaphrodite as well as a charming, manipulative conman, also got a death sentence. My book, Undeserved, which tells the authoritative behind-the-scenes story of this case and the Deleons, dubbed as the Bonnie and Clyde of Orange County, California, will be out late next year.

Based on news reports I've read, detectives in Salt Lake City, Utah, are collecting some of the same types of evidence in the Powell case that helped convict the Deleons, most importantly cell phone records. Some people may not know just how incriminating a handy little cell phone can be to a criminal. Cell phone records not only show police who a suspect has talked to, but they also can be used to generate a travel route and a chronology of that person's whereabouts.

Used in combination with financial records from an ATM card or credit card, a person's alibi can be disproven – or supported – in black and white numbers on a page. Billing records that come to a cell phone user’s house show the time a call was made or received, but police can access more specific records with a subpoena, which show which specific cell phone towers the signals from a user's phone actually pinged off and when. In the Deleons’ case, cell phone and GPS records were key in proving that Skylar was on a yacht, midway between Catalina and San Clemente Islands, when he tied Tom and Jackie Hawks to an anchor and threw them overboard alive, then immediately called his wife, presumably to report that the deed was done. In the Powell case, although detectives have no GPS data to help them place Joshua's whereabouts on December 7 and the day that he was driving the rental car, hopefully his cell phone will help them figure all that out.

So, yes, it's always easier for a prosecutor to persuade a jury that someone been murdered if the body has been found, but it's not always necessary with the technological forensic evidence in today's court cases. In the case of Kristin Rossum, a San Diego County toxicologist who was convicted of poisoning her husband – and the subject of my first book, Poisoned Love – she made the stupid mistake of using her Vons card to buy a single rose the day her husband was found nonresponsive in their apartment, his body covered with fresh red rose petals in a staged suicide scene. The rose purchase was recorded on the Vons computer, with the date and time. All that was missing was the color of the rose.

So where is Susan Powell? Police are not discussing the evidence they've collected, but we know they're waiting on the DNA test results, which don't come back overnight. I imagine they’ve also subpoenaed cell phone and financial records and are analyzing the Powells’ home computer for more clues.

In the meantime, we can only hope that Susan shows up and the mystery is solved.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on December 28, 2009, 09:42:31 AM
His personality..
It is... Scott Peterson, all over again.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 28, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Friends of missing women keep hoping for miracle

WEST VALLEY CITY -- The search for a missing Utah mother is entering its fourth week, with still no clues as to where she is. Meanwhile, Susan Powell's family and friends continue to do everything they can to keep attention on the search for her.

West Valley City police detectives said Sunday leads to her whereabouts were few. "The more time that passes, it may not be in her favor," said West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan during a press conference last week.

Another week has passed since that statement, but it hasn't stopped Kiirsi Hellewell from still trying to find Powell. She says Powell is her best friend.

"Christmas was very hard," says Hellewell at her West Valley home Sunday. "I've been trying to keep my hopes up every single day, but every morning when I wake up, it gets a lot harder to get that hope and keep that hope that she's still alive."

Hellewell says she hasn't seen Powell since the day before she disappeared on Dec. 6. Ever since, she and other friends have been passing out fliers in parking lots throughout the Salt Lake Valley, holding candlelight vigils and working social media Web pages as much as possible.

Already, more than 10,000 people have signed onto the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page.

Still, with nothing new for weeks, even Hellewell admits she's not sure what else she can do.

"It's really frustrating, and what's even more frustrating is that people are constantly saying 'Why aren't you searching? Why aren't you searching? Why are you sitting at home on your computer? Why aren't you out and searching?'" she says. "I understand the frustration and how hard it is to sit home and wait and not be out doing something, but at the same time, she could be anywhere. It's like a needle in a haystack."

So far, West Valley police detectives have only named Josh Powell, Susan's husband, as a person of interest in the case. He is currently in Washington with his two sons visiting family.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9155653


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 28, 2009, 05:46:12 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 28, 2009, 07:07:13 PM
Thank you all for the updates.

SEALED SEARCH WARRANTS!!!

I still am highly suspicion that there are forces within the Mormon Church working on behalf of Josh Powell and ... influencing the outcome of the investigation.

Does anybody know what position Josh's BIL and/or family holds within the organization's hierarchy?

Josh has been given too many passes despite soooo many red flags.  IMO.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on December 28, 2009, 07:18:41 PM
 ::HelloKitty::

I hope Monkeys had all had a wonderful Christmas.

Despite feeling I may be coming down with something ... I had a great Christmas Day.  However ... the next day (boxing day) ... I was down with a rotton cold and cough.  Weekend family activities related to Christmas did not happen for me but ... I insisted daughter and SIL pick up hubby on their way into Vancouver.  Misery (me) did not want company.

 ::MonkeyTongue::

Today ... I am on the mend and ... looking forward to New Year's activities this weekend.

Happy New Year All.

Janet



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 28, 2009, 07:22:19 PM
I just cannot understand how Josh was not under surveillance by LE.  Come on - it only took his initial camping story for me to have bad vibes about him.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

It is quite obvious that LE haven't a clue how to conduct an investigation. Call in the FBI !! This is outrageous.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 28, 2009, 07:47:50 PM
Constant new leads coming in over Susan Powell case

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Police are getting new leads in the case of missing West Valley woman Susan Powell. And that’s bringing comfort to her family and one of Susan's closest friends.

Police are staying tight lipped about any new findings coming in; in fact ABC 4 has learned the search warrants for the Powell home have now been sealed off. But police are saying they're constantly getting new tips.

It's now been three weeks, and no sign of Susan Powell. Hope of finding her since she disappeared from her West Valley home may seem bleak, but police said fresh leads are coming in all the time.

“It's been a continuous stream,” said Capt. Tom McLachlan, West Valley Police.

In fact, police said they're getting tips about Susan's disappearance from all sorts of sources.

“People have called in leads, we get leads over the internet, some of them have information that we deem as high priority and some of them have lower priority, but we follow up on everyone of them,” said McLachlan.

Susan's family and one of her closest friends Kiirsi Hellewell said they're encouraged from the constant energy police are getting in the case.

“Because I know they're working hard, but it's nice to hear confirmation of that, that the case is still going on, and they're still looking,” said Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell’s best friend.

Hellewell said she's also finding comfort through the internet.

“People all over the country and all over the world are constantly sending messages saying we're praying for you guys, we're posting her flyer even here in Europe, don't give up, keep going, we believe that she'll be found, and it's really encouraging,” she said.

But right now police said everything that's coming in about Susan hasn't changed the nature of the case.

“This is a suspicious missing person’s case, but like I say it's still a missing person’s case,” said McLachlan.

One thing Susan's friends and family are doing to help police keep up the constant stream of new leads is they're planning a media blitz in the next few days to get Susan's picture in every house in America.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Constant-new-leads-coming-in-over-Susan-Powell/Z7bSW8RIuEyo0IDQQ4AL0g.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on December 28, 2009, 07:49:37 PM
He / They are members of the LDS church.

I am almost ready to call this guy Scott Peterson..

How he acts and the lame excuses and  reasoning are so similar it is Erie !!

Also the circumstances surrounding the disappearance and although this wife was not pregnant Both this wife and Scott Petersons wife wanted OUT!
Both had financial problems and Both have family members backing them up !
Scott Peterson also had his family backing him up and helping him any way they could..

Anyways I find it strange..
They live in a Court where various homes look right at there front door !!
There is no escape out the back yard..
Anybody see him loading up for a camping trip ??? Where is the witness that Had seen him load the vehicle ?
Did he load the vehicle from within the garage ??

Do they have a septic tank ?


OMG


At one point Scott Peterson and his wife owned a Restaurant and Bar not far from Neverland ranch and Scott and her lost it to financial problems and there was a bankruptcy if I remember correct..
This couple also got themselves in over there head by 200,000.00 and filed a bankruptcy..
That kills your credit for 7 years !!

Money worries are what I think motivate murder from husband to wife.. The person who murders is the one that will have to pay...
Often times while in fighting or arguments MONEY is held as a weapon...
He who has to paychild support or give up property rights gets a twisted mind.
Sometimes people kil over such things. I have seen it hppen in the parking lot of the courthouse..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 29, 2009, 12:57:05 AM
He / They are members of the LDS church.

I am almost ready to call this guy Scott Peterson..

How he acts and the lame excuses and  reasoning are so similar it is Erie !!

Also the circumstances surrounding the disappearance and although this wife was not pregnant Both this wife and Scott Petersons wife wanted OUT!
Both had financial problems and Both have family members backing them up !
Scott Peterson also had his family backing him up and helping him any way they could..

Anyways I find it strange..
They live in a Court where various homes look right at there front door !!
There is no escape out the back yard..
Anybody see him loading up for a camping trip ??? Where is the witness that Had seen him load the vehicle ?
Did he load the vehicle from within the garage ??

Do they have a septic tank ?


OMG


At one point Scott Peterson and his wife owned a Restaurant and Bar not far from Neverland ranch and Scott and her lost it to financial problems and there was a bankruptcy if I remember correct..
This couple also got themselves in over there head by 200,000.00 and filed a bankruptcy..
That kills your credit for 7 years !!

Money worries are what I think motivate murder from husband to wife.. The person who murders is the one that will have to pay...
Often times while in fighting or arguments MONEY is held as a weapon...
He who has to paychild support or give up property rights gets a twisted mind.
Sometimes people kil over such things. I have seen it hppen in the parking lot of the courthouse..

Edward excellent post as always!  I recall one of the videos was a neighbour who heard the car alarm going off in their garage around the time that Josh said he left to go camping.  The Neighbour said it went off for quite some time, long enough that his wife asked him to go over and see what was going on.  His response to his wife was if they could hear it as neighbours and the car was in a closed garage surely the people living in the house could hear it. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 29, 2009, 12:59:06 AM
IMO he put Susan in a mine shaft.  There are so many mines in that area it is scary and it looks like many are not blocked off.  The wind burn on his hands could be chemical burn (lye or something similar) or heat burn as well. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 29, 2009, 01:00:02 AM
Volunteers searching for Susan Powell
As thousands around the world learn about the story of Susan Powell, more and more perfect strangers are moved to help. ABC4 spent the afternoon with two of those strangers who have dedicated hours to searching for susan.

Together and apart, Susan and Travis have covered hundreds of miles. They've scoured as close as Susan's neighborhood, and even out as far as the marshes of the Great Salt Lake, Utah Lake and Saratoga Springs and today, the search begins at Stansbury Lake. But what makes two people who've never met Susan, one of them a 19-year old boy, moved to help? Laurell Lowe says, "I have a 2-year old and 4-year old as well, and I just can't imagine my kids being without their mom." She's not the only one. Today, there were several different facebook posts responding to an online inquiry about searching.

Just as Laurel and Travis have been doing, the Cox family spokeswoman advises anyone who wants to help to first coordinate with police before searching any undisturbed areas. Susan's friends advise searchers to not tamper with evidence....but saying, they appreciate the gesture.

Travis Hill says, "Just go out and help, you may not know susan, but...it's a human. Lowe adds, "She's a mom, and there needs to be closure for that family, and those little boys."

Speaking of those who've never met Susan and are touched by her story, ABC4 will be covering what's called a "social media blitz" that's planned for the first week in January. This is an effort planned by a perfect stranger to make a "youtube" slideshow of Susan viral. Their hope is that the video will be watched by "every person in the world."

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Volunteers-searching-for-Susan-Powell/jLPjgvcYz0GovDt1V-rmRw.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 29, 2009, 07:49:21 AM
I just cannot understand how Josh was not under surveillance by LE.  Come on - it only took his initial camping story for me to have bad vibes about him.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

It is quite obvious that LE haven't a clue how to conduct an investigation. Call in the FBI !! This is outrageous.

I do not remember reading if they processed that rental car......do we know?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 29, 2009, 09:22:05 AM
I just cannot understand how Josh was not under surveillance by LE.  Come on - it only took his initial camping story for me to have bad vibes about him.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

It is quite obvious that LE haven't a clue how to conduct an investigation. Call in the FBI !! This is outrageous.

I do not remember reading if they processed that rental car......do we know?



This is the only info I found on the rental car.....

Report describes Joshua Powell’s reaction to news Susan Powell was missing (video)
Posted by Amanda Collins On December - 24 - 2009



--snipped--

One of the most disturbing things that Tim Peterson noticed regarding Josh Powell’s behavior was his hands. He said that his hands were extremely wind burned and that he continually put lotion on his hands. The report comes after police have secured five search warrants and are seeking a sixth warrant to examine a rental car that Josh Powell used after his van was confiscated by police.

Authorities state that Josh Powell put several hundred miles on the rental car but hasn’t admitted to where he traveled.
 
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=1916


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on December 29, 2009, 09:28:58 AM
http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=68821

Warrants In Missing Utah Mom Case Sealed
Reported by:
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 @04:06pm

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - Search warrants in the case of a 28-year-old Utah woman missing for three weeks have been sealed.

Susan Powell was last seen on Dec. 7, when husband Josh Powell says he left their suburban home in West Valley City about 12:30 a.m. to take their two boys camping in freezing conditions.

She was reported missing the same day when she failed to show up for her stockbroker job and her kids weren't dropped off at day care.

Josh Powell returned later that evening to find his wife missing. He has been named a person of interest in the case, but not a suspect.

Police have searched the Powell home and van. The 3rd District Court clerk's office said Monday that the search warrants have been sealed by a judge.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 29, 2009, 10:29:24 AM
Help Find Susan Powell Youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEZY4Qdqt5s



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on December 29, 2009, 01:09:46 PM
Well here is my best guess based on info we have so far.

Sounds like it happened in the Garage to me.
Nice and quiet spot.

The reason that the alarm went off was because somebody bumped up against the car and the reason that the alarm went off for awhile is because people do not die instantly when you kill them with your bare hands.. He was able to clean up and package her nice and neat with plastic tarp that was stored in the garage so she would fit into the vehicle. Then loading all the camping gear on top of her.
 The boys never noticed when he pulled her out as the boys were asleep and did not wake up, when they did wake up was at the destination for camping out, where dad went into a mode of everything is wonderful.
So the boys know nothing at all.

A mine shaft ??
This happens all the time. Just ask Gloria, April Beth Pitzers mom.
Bodies are in fact found in mine shafts and there are specialized groups that search mines.


The motivator was loss..He has already damaged credit.. So, Loss of money.. Loss of church ..Loss of Integrity.. Next would be the Loss of his boys..
 He had justified all of this in his pea brain little mind at that moment of considering his loss, He Murdered His Wife. After all SHE wanted to break up the family. Let her have the Loss  instead of HIM..
She was probably headed for the garage to get the hell away from him when it all went crazy.

Sociopath... It always comes down to " ME " and a sociopath person always justifies in there own mind what ever action was taken.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on December 29, 2009, 02:25:07 PM
You summed it up nicely Edward. And there he sits in Washington with his boys at his father's house. Hopefully LE will get back something they are testing and throw this creeps butt in jail real soon. His facial expressions and words disgust me more then Scott Petersons, I didn't think that was possible.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 29, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
good post Edward  ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 29, 2009, 04:04:37 PM
Ribbon campaign planned for Susan Powell

WEST VALLEY CITY — Friends of Susan Powell hope to organize a ribbon campaign to go along with a social media blitz scheduled to begin Monday.

Starting Monday and running for 72 hours, Susan's loved ones will launch an intense campaign on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube in an effort to keep her face in the public eye.

Her best friend, Kiirsi Hellewell, hopes a ribbon campaign can be organized at the same time as a visual reminder for people who are driving around Utah, Washington or any other area, that Susan is still missing and needs to be found.

Details of the ribbon campaign were still being worked out Tuesday. Hellewell wasn't sure what color ribbon would be used to symbolize the search for Susan, but said Susan's favorite colors were lavender and sage green.

Powell has been missing since Dec. 7. Her husband, Josh Powell, has had a cloud of suspicion surround him because of his seemingly odd behavior and failure to cooperate with police. Josh has been called a person of interest by West Valley police who have not officially declared the Susan Powell matter as anything but a missing person's case with suspicious circumstances.

Monday, it was revealed that search warrants served on Josh Powell, his home and his minivan were sealed because of the ongoing investigation.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705354834/Ribbon-campaign-for-Powell.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 29, 2009, 11:00:23 PM

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on December 30, 2009, 12:50:19 AM
A mine shaft ??
This happens all the time. Just ask Gloria, April Beth Pitzers mom.
Bodies are in fact found in mine shafts and there are specialized groups that search mines
-------------------------------------------------
saying he did put her in a mine shaft,and for josh to put hundreds of miles on the car,
he would only have to take highway 80 west to nevada, for the most concentrated area
of mines, and be in the 24hr window, a needle in a haystack
some of those claims are closed, and the open ones, the owners dont get back to for yrs
sometimes.
the rental may have been cleaned by now, hopefully the person, that did the cleaning was
not to thorough

what i used to find the mines, the little squares are mines in the jpg
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 30, 2009, 03:35:28 AM
Going through old news in Utah in early Dec a man died in a cave in Utah and though they know where he is they can not recover his body.  It seems to have been a huge story.  Wondering if Josh got ideas from it. 

http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=65381

<snipped>
The sheer number of abandoned mines in Utah makes closing each and every one of them a daunting task. Mark Mesch, director of the state's abandoned mine reclamation program, said there are approximately 17,000 to 20,000 abandoned mines scattered throughout Utah, and each mine has multiple entrances and ventilation shafts. Mesch said one in the Oquirrhs has 72 entrances that need to be sealed up.

Utah spelunkers estimate that there are 500 natural caves in Utah, with possibly many more just waiting to be discovered. Some caves are on public lands while others are on private property, making the question of who bears responsibility for closing them more difficult.

http://www.nuttyputtycave.com/NSealUp82006.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on December 30, 2009, 10:14:27 AM
Josh's father is helping him now.

Did he help him Dec 6-7?

"Josh spoke to his father on the phone for hours"
"Josh talked to his father more than he talked to Susan"
"Josh's father would send him anti-LDS literature"
And what was the sticky point for the marriage to remain or divorce to happen? THE LDS CHURCH!

Let's look at this from Josh's POV...
Susan was about to destroy him, take everything, take the sons he loves so much.
She had a career, his all careers all faltered, failed.
Susan was loved, he was disliked, thought to be a creep (per Tim Peterson their "friend")

Let's look at this from Steven Powell's POV...
Susan was ruining Josh's life.
She was trying to force that awful (his idea not mine) religion on Josh against his will.

Steven was cruel to his ex-wife Terri Powell, caused her all sorts of grief throughout the divorce process (I wish I knew more about that dynamic)

OK, so? Did Steven Powell help after he got a panicked call from Josh about what happened that night after JoVonna left?

I am thinking this partly because of the cryptic "out of state" reference on Kiirsi's blog, plus-- add in all the why's of how fathers help their sons and sons turn out like their fathers.


I am 99.99999% sure Josh did this, but the answer to where he put her might involve his father.

Can we sleuth?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 30, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Josh's father is helping him now.

Did he help him Dec 6-7?

"Josh spoke to his father on the phone for hours"
"Josh talked to his father more than he talked to Susan"
"Josh's father would send him anti-LDS literature"
And what was the sticky point for the marriage to remain or divorce to happen? THE LDS CHURCH!

Let's look at this from Josh's POV...
Susan was about to destroy him, take everything, take the sons he loves so much.
She had a career, his all careers all faltered, failed.
Susan was loved, he was disliked, thought to be a creep (per Tim Peterson their "friend")

Let's look at this from Steven Powell's POV...
Susan was ruining Josh's life.
She was trying to force that awful (his idea not mine) religion on Josh against his will.

Steven was cruel to his ex-wife Terri Powell, caused her all sorts of grief throughout the divorce process (I wish I knew more about that dynamic)

OK, so? Did Steven Powell help after he got a panicked call from Josh about what happened that night after JoVonna left?

I am thinking this partly because of the cryptic "out of state" reference on Kiirsi's blog, plus-- add in all the why's of how fathers help their sons and sons turn out like their fathers.


I am 99.99999% sure Josh did this, but the answer to where he put her might involve his father.

Can we sleuth?

I wonder where Sr. was when Jr. rented the car....


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on December 30, 2009, 03:07:47 PM
Me too.
It is a 13-14 hour drive from Josh's home to his father's home.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on December 30, 2009, 04:02:58 PM
Me too.
It is a 13-14 hour drive from Josh's home to his father's home.

Do we know if Sr. came in town after Susans family discovered she was missing? 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on December 31, 2009, 03:18:05 PM
Me too.
It is a 13-14 hour drive from Josh's home to his father's home.

Do we know if Sr. came in town after Susans family discovered she was missing?  

BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 02, 2010, 01:25:03 PM
Unless it is official policy to allow persons of interest in the disappearance of their wives a free pass over the holiday ... it does appear that the story of Susan Powell has become yesterday's headlines in the media.

Who is/are influencing the investigation on Josh Powell's behalf.  Something is not right.  The huge red flags that point to this guy can all be considered circumstancial evidence.

Janet




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 02, 2010, 01:42:53 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth! This is an outrage!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2010, 01:59:16 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d1-Susan-Powell-Family-and-friends-grateful-for-ground-search-efforts

Susan Powell: Family and friends grateful for ground search efforts
January 1, 10:51 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder
January 1, 2010 - Police have conducted several ground searches in the search for Susan Powell, 28, who was reported missing on Dec. 7. The last person to see her was her husband, Josh Powell. He is the only person of interest in the case and the case is being called a missing person's case with "suspicious criminal overtones."

Susan's family and friends are desperate to have her back and wish to extend their gratitude to everyone who has shown support and who have offered to help in the search to find her.

Ground search

The family has received offers from people willing to help with a ground search. Police are not performing a ground search at this time. Friends and Family of Susan Powell are, however, cataloging information provided by people who wish to help if and when the need arises.

Susan's best friend, Kiirsi Hellewell, said "Police have been contacted by Susan's family for an update on ground search efforts. Information will be posted on the Facebook page when it is available."

In the meantime people who wish to help are urged to register their information on the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page.
Once there, click on the “Discussions” tab. You will see a list of discussion topics.

While there are three possible options where people have discussed helping in a ground search, it would be helpful if you would list your information on the “ground search” tab.

In a phone interview with Shelby Gifford, Spokeswoman for Susan Powell’s family, she said, “I would like people to know their offers to help in a ground search are not being ignored. Susan Powell’s family is thankful for the resources and equipment that have been offered in the search for Susan. Family have been assured that police are aware of the resources available and have tapped in to some of those resources already. They will continue to do so as the needs of the investigation dictates.”

Gifford said, “Friends and Family of Susan Powell have set up a tab on their Facebook page where people can post what equipment they have, what expertise they have, and what they are willing to do to help in a ground search if and when the time comes.”

Gifford added, “The family is very aware of the offers to help and are cataloging those offers of service and so are the police. When and if the time comes we will use as many of those services as needed. The family expresses a great deal of gratitude for what people are doing.”
Others ways to help

A 72-hour "Susan Powell Social Media Blitz" is being coordinated to begin on Mon., Jan. 4 at 8 a.m. MST. Click here for information on ways you can help in the "Social Media Blitz."

A "Susan Powell Purple Ribbon Campaign" is also being coordinated to coincide with the "Social Media Blitz." Click here for information on ways you can help in the "Purple Ribbon Campaign."

In an exclusive interview with Ed Smart, whose daughter went missing in 2002 and was found alive, he said, "Keep her face out there, it's what brought Elizabeth home."

Tips for police

Also, if you have a tip that you want to share with police, you can do so by visiting their “Tip a Cop” link.

You will be taken to a page where you can enter your information and pass along whatever info you have. You can also call the "Tip a Cop" line at 801-963-3459 or Police dispatch at 801-840-4000.

In the event that Susan is located or any emergency situation, call 911 immediately.
Articles about this case dated before Dec. 30 can be found here.

Susan Powell Video Updated

http://www.youtube.com/v/GK3neexgNI0&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 02, 2010, 02:21:25 PM
Thanks for the edit Nut.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2010, 02:25:41 PM
Unless it is official policy to allow persons of interest in the disappearance of their wives a free pass over the holiday ... it does appear that the story of Susan Powell has become yesterday's headlines in the media.

Who is/are influencing the investigation on Josh Powell's behalf.  Something is not right.  The huge red flags that point to this guy can all be considered circumstancial evidence.

Janet



I'm not sure how to phrase this question, I know nothing about the Mormon faith, and I guess my question is could people in that church that Susan went to have influence over the LE, in one way or another? I guess what I'm getting at is they maybe don't want bad things coming out? Not suggesting that there is bad things in the church, the last thing I want is to start a debate on religion, so I hope people know what I'm meaning. Otherwise I'm at a loss over all this, unless they are waiting on forensic testing to come back?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 02, 2010, 02:39:55 PM
I think someone here mentioned something similar to that early on...I can't remember who mentioned it. I have no idea...but IMO this has nothing to do with the Church, other than rumors that Josh was tired of her going there.....right??


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2010, 02:52:29 PM
I think someone here mentioned something similar to that early on...I can't remember who mentioned it. I have no idea...but IMO this has nothing to do with the Church, other than rumors that Josh was tired of her going there.....right??
That's what I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't think so, it shouldn't interfere with a police investigation, and LE is probably waiting on tests results before they make their move.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 02, 2010, 03:04:53 PM
Unless it is official policy to allow persons of interest in the disappearance of their wives a free pass over the holiday ... it does appear that the story of Susan Powell has become yesterday's headlines in the media.

Who is/are influencing the investigation on Josh Powell's behalf.  Something is not right.  The huge red flags that point to this guy can all be considered circumstancial evidence.

Janet


I'm not sure how to phrase this question, I know nothing about the Mormon faith, and I guess my question is could people in that church that Susan went to have influence over the LE, in one way or another? I guess what I'm getting at is they maybe don't want bad things coming out? Not suggesting that there is bad things in the church, the last thing I want is to start a debate on religion, so I hope people know what I'm meaning. Otherwise I'm at a loss over all this, unless they are waiting on forensic testing to come back?

1.  Considering that there is a high probability that those within this Utah investigation are of the Mormon faith ... my response is "YES".  Check out the high profile pologamy cases that have become yesterday's headlines without any charges/convictions.

2.  Maybe.  I am thinking about that one.

Could it be that members Josh's family may hold positions of authority within the heirachy of the Mormon organization and ... that is where pressure is being put on the investigation to distance him from implication in his wife's death?

Is the prosecutor in the investigation of the Mormon faith?  Could this be is why he appears to be an advocate of Josh rather than the victim?

It appears that some friends who were originally outspoken in their belief that Josh was responsible for Susan's disappearance are backing down and ... a kidnapped theory is being furthered.

no rose colored glasses ... it is only a basic understanding of the Mormon organization that can shed should light on the theory that Church influences within the Susan Powell case may be a factor.  I suggest you try some googling.  Googling?  Sound obscene ... LOL.

Happy New Year All!

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 02, 2010, 03:07:51 PM
Happy New Year Janet, and I will do some googling on that  ::MonkeyCool:: Your thoughts are my thoughts, and who knows this could all be factors.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 02, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
Why did the red flags not dictate that there should have been surveillence on Josh Powell in the days following his wife's disappearance.  He was given a 24 hour opportunity of furthering an obstruction of the investigation.

In my opinion ... at this point in time ... West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan is either incompentent or corrupt.  I sincerely hope I am wrong on both counts and ... stuff is going on behind the scenes.

Janet

+++++

Police ask why Powell drove so far in rental car
By Pat Reavy
Deseret News
Published: Monday, Dec. 21, 2009 9:03 p.m. MST


WEST VALLEY CITY — A car rented by Josh Powell two days after his wife was reported missing was returned just 24 hours later with a lot of miles on it, according to police.

"It looks like there were several hundred miles driven," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News.

Investigators do not know where the car was taken or where Josh Powell was during that 24-hour period. There was no GPS data stored in that rental car, said McLachlan, who declined Monday to say from where the vehicle was rented.

Powell reportedly rented the car after police seized his minivan — his only vehicle — to be processed for evidence in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. The van has since been returned to Josh Powell.

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353130/Police-ask-why-Powell-drove-so-far-in-rental-car.html


Husband of missing mom attends Wash. vigil
Wife's side of the family also is at service; he’s a ‘person of interest’


West Valley City police Capt. Tom McLachlan said Sunday there are no restrictions on Josh Powell's movements.

"He can come and go as he pleases," McLachlan said, adding that police would still like to speak with him again.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34503052/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2010, 04:27:48 PM
Today Show:Where is Susan Powell?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/18424824#34664740


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 02, 2010, 05:32:04 PM
Susan Powell: Susan's friend and father talk to The Today Show about ways to help find Susan (Video at link)

January 2, 2010 - (VIDEO below) The Today Show interviewed Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend, and Chuck Cox, Susan's father, in the Susan Powell missing person's case this morning.

Susan Powell, 28, and the mother of two young boys, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, has been missing for nearly four weeks. According to The Today Show, police say leads are "pretty slim" as the investigation into Susan’s disappearance continues.
NBC News Consultant, Clint Van Zandt, said investigators say Josh Powell, who claims he went camping with his two boys the night Susan disappeared, appears to be the most logical person to look at. He’s the one that law enforcement believes would have the critical answers that might help solve the case in the disappearance of Josh's wife.
Josh's sister had this to say on Christmas Eve, "It makes me sad that he won’t speak up more."
Susan's friend, Kiirsi Hellewell, said it gets harder every morning she wakes up and that it's a lot harder to keep hope that Susan's alive.
The Today Show reported that Kiirsi Hellewell and other friend's of Susan's are planning a "Networking blitz" starting on Monday. They will be putting out messages on Twitter and Facebook, using YouTube videos and others pictures of Powell to urge people everywhere to be on the lookout for the missing woman.
Van Zandt said, "This helps to get the word out much greater than putting missing posters around a city or on the back of milk cartons or something like that."
Susan’s father, Chuck Cox, was asked about the search warrants that have been sealed in the case. What does it tell him? Cox said, “I understand the police’s need to seal the contents of the warrant and it gives me hope. I see no need for them to unseal them at this time. It would just provide more information for speculations and make their job more difficult, delaying finding my daughter.”
Cox was asked if he has personally reached out to Josh Powell saying "we need your help here." Cox replied, “I’ve asked for his help, I’ve asked and so far that opportunity has not come to pass.”
Van Zandt asked Cox what reaction he's gotten. Cox said, “Just that he doesn’t know where she is and that’s about it.”
Hellewell was asked if anything has changed since last week when she said Josh is still their friend and they still love him. She responded, “It hasn’t but I will say that his actions aren’t doing him any favors right now.”
When asked why she hinted Susan may no longer be in Utah, Hellewell said, “For one thing Utah is a very big state, it’s the 13th biggest state and we also have three other states within a three-hour drive or less. So really she could be anywhere. It’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”
She was asked if there is something in her mind that leads her to believe Susan is outside of Utah, and that attention should be focused outside of Utah. Hellewell said, "I don’t know if the attention should be outside of Utah but from being her friend for 5 ½ years I have had many conversations with her. And without going into detail I will just say I do have reason to believe that she may be out of the state.”
Cox was asked how his grandsons were holding up and he said they seemed "OK". He was asked what the children have been told about their mother and Cox responded, “I’m not sure, we’ve avoided the subject. We want to protect the privacy of the children and shield them if at all possible from everything that’s going on."
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d2-Susan-Powell-Susans-friend-and-father-talk-to-Today-show-about-ways-to-help-find-Susan-Video


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 02, 2010, 07:52:38 PM
The above article gives me a hinky feeling.

Both family and friends of Susan Powell who  ... in the past ... openly focused on the red flags which impled Josh Powell was behind the disappearance of his wife ... are now backing away.  Josh now appears to now be a non-issue.

What is the foundation of the current search encompassing a "live" Susan ... a foundation that the media has not been privy to? 

I suspect that the search may be nothing but a distraction to take the focus off the person of interest in the investigation ... Josh Powell.

Could  it be that the charging of Susan's husband in her disappearance/death may have far reaching implications that the Mormon organization would rather was not exposed?

Could it be that influences are controlling more than just the direction of the investigation?  Are members being  instructed ... "All that happens within the family ... stays in the family"?


IMO ... something is not right.



Janet


 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 02, 2010, 09:46:58 PM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/80516392.html

Family plans online blitz for missing mom
By Joel Moreno
Story Published: Jan 2, 2010 at 6:36 PM PST
Story Updated: Jan 2, 2010 at 6:36 PM PST
(http://media.komonews.com/images/091216_Susan_Powell_2.jpg)
PUYALLUP, Wash. - Twitter and Facebook are about to play key roles in the search for a missing mother from Puyallup.

Her family plans to saturate the sites - and others - in a media blitz to find Susan Powell, who disappeared nearly a month ago.

It's an experiment, and no one knows if it will work. People often find friends with Facebook - although this could be the first time the site has been used to find a missing person.

But Susan's desperate family is ready to try anything. On Saturday, one of her kids turned 3 years old. And her family says she wouldn't miss his birthday for the world unless she was in trouble.

Susan Powell disappeared from her Utah home nearly a month ago under suspicious circumstances.

Shelby Gifford is the family spokesperson. She says that by the time she is done, she hopes everyone in the world will know about the desperate search for Susan Powell.

"Using different social networking sites, using Facebook, Twitter, YouTube - lots of different sites like that," she says.

"It's just an opportunity to remind people that we're still looking for her. And if they pass that around, our hope is that it will go viral."

For example, YouTube has a channel dedicated to Powell.

And the Facebook page includes an extensive photo gallery of the 28-year-old mother of two.

Susan's husband Joshua attended a candlelight vigil for her in Puyallup two weeks ago.

He told police he last saw Susan just before he took their children on a midnight camping trip in the snow. When they got back, he says she was gone.

Police now consider Joshua a person of interest.

"She would never disappear and leave her babies here with somebody else," says Gifford. "It's just a huge red flag for the family."
KOMO News went looking for Joshua at his father's house, where he's visiting for the holidays. We were told through the door to go away, and Joshua would not answer questions.

Susan's supporters hope their online media blitz brings out the truth.

"We're hoping that somebody might remember something. They'll see this. They'll remember. Something will hit them that before they hadn't though about. Some bit of information will get passed on to the police," Gifford says.

The tweets and postings start Monday morning and will continue non-stop for 72 hours.

People who want to help can send an e-mail to findsusanpowell@gmail.com.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 03, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 03, 2010, 02:19:26 PM

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 03, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
snip:
Mike Stavros and his ex-wife, her boyfriend and daughter Meghan Laudie had a dinner together on Jan. 2.
He said that "at some point things got weird" and Stavros and her boyfriend left about 10 p.m. to return to her Millcreek home.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 03, 2010, 03:24:18 PM
I don't understand why the search warrants are sealed.  Disclosure is the foundation of the judcial system within a democracy.  Without disclosure ... citizens may as well be living under a dictatorship where "we ... the little people" must trust the powers that be do not have an agenda ... an agenda to prevent justice from prevailing for the victim.

Janet

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Susan Powell: Newspaper wants search warrants disclosed, Susan’s father wants them sealed
January 2, 4:48 PM


January 2, 2010 - Susan Powell’s father, Chuck Cox, said today on The TODAY Show that he wants the three search warrants that were sealed on Mon., Dec. 28, to remain sealed. The Salt Lake Tribune wants them disclosed.

On Dec. 29, the day after the three search warrants were sealed in the Susan Powell missing person’s case, The Salt Lake Tribune announced their attorney would file a motion to have the warrants disclosed and made available to the public.It wasn’t clear when the judge would review or rule on the motion.

Susan’s father wants them sealed

But today Susan’s father, Chuck Cox, says he’d rather the warrants remain sealed.

During an interview with The TODAY Show this morning, Cox said, “I understand the police’s need to seal the contents of the warrant and it gives me hope. I see no need for them to unseal them at this time. It would just provide more information for speculations and make their job more difficult, delaying finding my daughter.”

Search warrants at-issue

The search warrants at issue are the two that were issued to search the Powell home and van, and one issued for biological samples from Susan’s husband, Joshua Powell.

Search warrants are made available to the public 20 days after they are issued. Police and prosecutors, according to The Salt Lake Tribune, don’t want the public to know what they took from Susan Powell’s house and husband.  

According to The Salt Lake Tribune, search warrants in Utah most often include statements written by police officers explaining why they have cause to search along with a list of what they seized.

Susan Powell, 28, went missing from her West Valley City home in Utah. The last person to see her was her husband, Josh Powell, when she went to bed around 12:30 a.m. on Dec. 6.

Josh is, at this time, the only person of interest in the case. Police are calling the case a missing person’s case with “suspicious criminal overtones.”

Josh Powell answered a few questions at the beginning of the case but, according to The Salt Lake Tribune, has since refused to grant investigators further interviews.

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d2-Susan-Powell-Newspaper-wants-search-warrants-disclosed-Susans-father-wants-them-sealed


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 03, 2010, 03:30:56 PM
Josh would know what is in the search warrants, right, if not, then they are probably sealed because LE doesn't want him to know what exactly they are looking at. I think that this 72 hour blitz could be a great idea, but in this case, they just need to drag Josh to the police station, he can tell them where Susan is  ::MonkeyNoNo:: If he is still in WA, which I haven't seen anything to show he is back in Utah, I really hope someone is watching him, but something tells me nobody is.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 03, 2010, 03:54:01 PM
Josh would know what is in the search warrants, right, if not, then they are probably sealed because LE doesn't want him to know what exactly they are looking at. I think that this 72 hour blitz could be a great idea, but in this case, they just need to drag Josh to the police station, he can tell them where Susan is  ::MonkeyNoNo:: If he is still in WA, which I haven't seen anything to show he is back in Utah, I really hope someone is watching him, but something tells me nobody is.

no rose colored glasses

Utah Law Enforcement (Prosecutor) cannot have it both ways.  Sealing the warrants and ... stating to the media that there are no further development in the case ... allow Josh Powell to remain free without restrictions ... does not make sense unless something is being covered up.  IMO.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 03, 2010, 04:08:40 PM
There were conflicts of interest when members of the Mormon Church had control over the Utah justice system in the late 1800's and ... the same problems exist 135 years later.  The code of silence that is expected from church membership when instructed only goes to further the corruption within the justice system in this state.

Janet

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THE POLAND ACT - 1874

Congressman Luke P. Poland of Vermont, author of the Poland Act


Prosecution for the murders at Mountain Meadows became possible only when, in 1874, Congress passed the Poland Act.  The Act sought to eliminate the nearly total control the Mormon Church had over Utah's justice system.  The Poland Act redefined the jurisdiction of Utah courts, restricting the formerly powerful probate courts, which had taken no action concerning the 1857 massacre, to their traditional jurisdiction.  The Act also eliminated the territorial marshal and attorney, giving their duties to a U. S. marshal and U. S. attorney.  Finally, the Act opened up Utah juries to non-Mormons. 

The first grand jury called under the new law, in September 1874, indicted Lee, Dame, Haight, Higbee, Klingensmith, Stewart, and three other men for the deaths of members of the Fancher Party at Mountain Meadows in 1857.


http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/FTrials/mountainmeadows/polandact.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 03, 2010, 04:45:04 PM
NoRose, if the search warrants are for him or his properties, he has to be given (a reasonable attempt to provide him or his legal representative) a copy of the search warrant as a matter of law.  We may not agree with certain laws in certain states, however, law enforcement must abide by them or cases can be tossed.
The Utah law clearly defines how long a search warrant may be sealed as it also clearly defines under what circumstances it can be extended:

(m) Sealing and Unsealing of Search Warrant Documents

(m)(1) Application for sealing of documents related to search warrants. A prosecutor or peace officer may make a written or otherwise recorded application to the court to have documents or records related to search warrants sealed for a time in addition to the sealing required by Subsection (i)(1). Upon a showing of good cause, the court may order the following documents to be sealed:

(m)(1)(A) applications for search warrants;

(m)(1)(B) search warrants;

(m)(1)(C) affidavits or other recorded testimony upon which the search warrant is based;

(m)(1)(D) the application, affidavits or other recorded testimony and order for sealing the documents.

(m)(2) Sealing of search warrant documents. Search warrant documents are public record that may be sealed in entirety or in part and not placed in the public file if all or part of the information in them would:

(m)(2)(A) cause a substantial risk of harm to a person’s safety;

(m)(2)(B) pose a clearly unwarranted invasion of or harm to a person’s reputation or privacy; or

(m)(2)(C) pose a serious impediment to the investigation.

Sealed documents shall be maintained in a file not available to the public. If a document is not sealed in its entirety, the court may order a copy of the document with the sealed portions redacted to be placed in the public file and an un-redacted copy to be placed in the sealed file. Except as required by Section (i), no document may be designated as “Filed under Seal” or “Confidential” unless it is accompanied by a court order sealing the document.

(m)(3) Unsealing of documents. Any person having standing may file a motion to unseal search warrant documents with notice to the prosecutor and law enforcement agency. If the prosecutor or law enforcement agency files an appropriate and timely objection to the unsealing, the court may hold a hearing on the motion and objection. Where no objection to unsealing the documents is filed, the defendant may prepare an order for entry by the court. The court may order the unsealing of the documents or order copies of the documents to be delivered to a designated person without unsealing the documents and require the person receiving the documents not to disclose the contents to any other person without the authorization of the court.

(m)(4) Length of time documents may remain sealed. The documents may remain sealed until the court finds, for good cause, that the records should be unsealed.


Please don't misunderstand me, I am not advocating for Josh.
Nor do I think the Mormon Church is doing some cover-up work on this case.  Being a Mormon does not, in and of itself, mean there is a cover-up anymore than being a Catholic (or any other religion) would mean there is a cover-up.  Maybe I'm just sensitive to "lumping" and labeling.  Anyway, JMHO


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 03, 2010, 05:42:34 PM
Powell Supporters Plan Social Media Blitz

SALT LAKE CITY - Friends and family of a missing West Valley woman will launch a social media blitz Monday. They hope to make Susan Powell's face familiar to people across the globe. "We want people to put it on youtube, we want podcasts," said Susan's friend Kiirsi Hellewell. Loved ones believe technology could help them find answers. "We feel like instead of rounding up 2,000 people to knock on doors in the city, we'd rather contact 2,000,000. And if there's 2,000,000 eyes looking for her, that's a so much better chance for us." Supporters of Powell are planning a three-day social media blitz using Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, e-mails and blogs.

Friends and family hope that Susan's story will go viral and reach people unfamiliar with the missing woman. "It seems like to us because we're so in the middle of it that everybody's got to know, but there's been at least two people that joined our Facebook group yesterday that said, I just barely saw this on the news for the first time. I want to do everything I can to help."

Powell disappeared on December 7th. Police have labeled her husband, Josh, a person of interest. Friends pray that she still alive and that someone just needs to step forward with information. "We also have a brand new slide show we're making with pictures from Susan's childhood all the way through when she was married and as a mother," said Hellewell.

A purple ribbon campaign will run in conjunction with the social media blitz. Loved ones hope the ribbons will be a visual reminder for people in Utah, Washington and elsewhere that Powell is still missing. Hellewell added, "It's just one of Susan's favorite colors, purple, and we're just hoping to get awareness to everybody that sees the ribbons everywhere."

To participate in the social media blitz, send an e-mail to findsusanpowell@gmail.com. Organizers say you will be provided with information on how to help.

FOX 13's Katy Carlyle will have more with News at Nine.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-powell-media-blitz-and-ribbon-campaign,0,4000442.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 03, 2010, 06:44:36 PM
Powell Supporters Plan Social Media Blitz

SALT LAKE CITY - Friends and family of a missing West Valley woman will launch a social media blitz Monday. They hope to make Susan Powell's face familiar to people across the globe. "We want people to put it on youtube, we want podcasts," said Susan's friend Kiirsi Hellewell. Loved ones believe technology could help them find answers. "We feel like instead of rounding up 2,000 people to knock on doors in the city, we'd rather contact 2,000,000. And if there's 2,000,000 eyes looking for her, that's a so much better chance for us." Supporters of Powell are planning a three-day social media blitz using Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, e-mails and blogs.

Friends and family hope that Susan's story will go viral and reach people unfamiliar with the missing woman. "It seems like to us because we're so in the middle of it that everybody's got to know, but there's been at least two people that joined our Facebook group yesterday that said, I just barely saw this on the news for the first time. I want to do everything I can to help."

Powell disappeared on December 7th. Police have labeled her husband, Josh, a person of interest. Friends pray that she still alive and that someone just needs to step forward with information. "We also have a brand new slide show we're making with pictures from Susan's childhood all the way through when she was married and as a mother," said Hellewell.

A purple ribbon campaign will run in conjunction with the social media blitz. Loved ones hope the ribbons will be a visual reminder for people in Utah, Washington and elsewhere that Powell is still missing. Hellewell added, "It's just one of Susan's favorite colors, purple, and we're just hoping to get awareness to everybody that sees the ribbons everywhere."

To participate in the social media blitz, send an e-mail to findsusanpowell@gmail.com. Organizers say you will be provided with information on how to help.

FOX 13's Katy Carlyle will have more with News at Nine.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-powell-media-blitz-and-ribbon-campaign,0,4000442.story

NorthernRose, I am so glad to see they are proactive.  I pray it will help find Susan or provide some leads/evidence.  At a minimum it will assuredly help raise awareness that this can happen in anyone's community.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 03, 2010, 06:51:02 PM
yipes, didn't mean to post that twice, wasn't that profound at all
 :smt100


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 03, 2010, 07:15:30 PM
Thanks for the info about the search warrants in Utah. I don't want to see anything that might mess up this case.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 03, 2010, 07:42:32 PM
yipes, didn't mean to post that twice, wasn't that profound at all
 :smt100

I removed the double/ lol  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 03, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
check out comments........
http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/705355778/Susan-Powell-friends-to-launch-social-media-blitz.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 03, 2010, 07:58:08 PM
check out comments........
http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/705355778/Susan-Powell-friends-to-launch-social-media-blitz.html

Nutt, although I agree in principle what the folks are saying, I know too it helps family and friends to feel like they are doing something to help.  Hope springs eternal.  I know that in so many cases LE messes up, but I also try to hope they won't.  I don't think Josh is far from their sights, no matter what.  But like with Sarah Foxwell, LE is assuredly dotting their "i"s and crossing their "t"s and for that I can wait.
Haven't said this before, but thank you for keeping us so up-to-date on these cases.  I don't even read them all, I have a point of saturation.  I respect very much your ability to do what you do and I just wanted to say thank you very much.
 ::lookie::
little lookie has nothing at all to do with this, such have been wanting to use him.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Magnolia on January 03, 2010, 09:21:21 PM
I though Josh's father didn't want Josh involved in the Morman faith.

Aren't the Cox family Morman?

A Morman conspiracy just doesn't make sense to me.





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 03, 2010, 09:31:42 PM
I though Josh's father didn't want Josh involved in the Morman faith.

Aren't the Cox family Morman?

A Morman conspiracy just doesn't make sense to me.




Yes, supposedly Josh's father was sending him anti Mormon articles of some kind.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tibrogargan on January 03, 2010, 10:45:11 PM
I though Josh's father didn't want Josh involved in the Morman faith.

Aren't the Cox family Morman?

A Morman conspiracy just doesn't make sense to me.




Yes, supposedly Josh's father was sending him anti Mormon articles of some kind.



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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 04, 2010, 01:28:22 AM
Magnolia and Tibrogargan, you are correct.  Josh's family are not Mormons and therefore a Mormon theory does not make sense.  To state things have not change in the last 135 years is not correct on many ways and is an afront to many of the good people in Utah.
The Poland Act, which was referenced, though interesting, has little, if any, relevance to this case.  That case, in part, had to do with having a jury of one's peers include those of a different faith.  It was a dreadful time in the history of Utah (and most states have their dreadful times in history) with much ado about pologamy, Young, Smith.  At issue was the Mormons staying within their local levels to settle their differences and try or not try their own cases.  They were intentionally by-passing the federal marshal/courts.  At specific issue was the murder of a group of non-Mormons who had settled into the territory.  The massacre of these people was deplorable.  Again, it is very interesting reading, I had studied it some years ago in one of my constitutional law classes. A Mr. Lee, who was a Mormon, was one of the men found guilty of this crime.  His statement as he sat on his coffin before he was shot before the firing squad, reflects his belief he was misguided and then abandoned by the Mormon Church and by Brigham Young in particular.
Your link was an informative read.  Thank you for posting it.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 04, 2010, 10:05:47 AM
I'm just going to assume that LE is waiting for the test results to come back on the evidence before they do anything. Even though everything seems to be pointing to Josh, they can't just arrest him because it looks like he did something to his wife. I'm hoping they are just being very careful and professional.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 04, 2010, 10:43:05 AM

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 04, 2010, 10:45:37 AM
Thanks Northern, I suppose this blitz could work, I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out why they may think Susan was taken against her will from the home, I never read that things in the house looked like they were disturbed from a struggle.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
Thanks Northern, I suppose this blitz could work, I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out why they may think Susan was taken against her will from the home, I never read that things in the house looked like they were disturbed from a struggle.

no rose colored glasses

Law enforcement has never indicated when quoted in the media that there is any foundation to indicate that Susan Powell was taken against her will.

Something is hinky in regards to this media blitz.  Kiirsi Hellewell has done a flip flop in less than three weeks.

Janet

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KIIRSI HELLEWELL - IN HER OWN WORDS

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Is Missing Woman`s Husband Stonewalling?
Aired December 15, 2009 - 19:00:00   ET


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Kiirsi, thank you so much for joining us. I know this has to be very, very difficult. We are talking with you in the hopes that somehow, something we say might trigger some kind of break and solve this terrible, terrible mystery.

My understanding is that you actually talked to Susan, your best friend, the very day she vanished, Sunday, December 6. Tell us what you spoke about and what she was like?

KIIRSI HELLEWELL, SUSAN POWELL`S BEST FRIEND: Well, we had gone to church together. I didn`t see her at church. And I just saw her walking out of the doors, and so we walked homes together as far as my house. And then she just talked about her boys, because she had her little boys with her. She was glad they behaved really well so she was able to enjoy church. And that`s -- that`s basically all we said. I had no idea it was going to be the last time I was going to see her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: There are some conflicting reports as to what the husband`s explanation is for why she didn`t accompany her on the camping trip. Some say that he said that she wasn`t feeling well. He`s quoted as saying, well, she just wanted to go to sleep.

Did she mention anything about a camping trip to you?  

HELLEWELL: Not at all. She didn`t mention anything about that. And I don`t think she knew about it at the time, because they were both scheduled to be at work the next day. …

VELEZ-MITCHELL: … As Susan`s best friend, you undoubtedly know her husband. What do you make of his story that he went camping around midnight Sunday, taking his 2- and 4-year-old sons with him, even though it was sub-freezing temperatures, it was late at night, even though he was supposed to be at work the next morning, Monday, where he fails to show up and then doesn`t call, saying he`s gotten confused about the days?

HELLEWELL: It`s absolutely unexplainable. I cannot understand it, and I know everybody is having a hard time believing it. I am myself having a hard time believing it, even though I`m Josh`s friend and I want to stand by him.

He has been known to I know go camping. And they always do sleep in their van. I don`t think they have a tent. They have gone camping three or four times this summer, and it has been a spur of the moment thing, but always on a Saturday morning, never at night, and never in the winter. So I cannot understand that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now what about the state of their marriage? Because reports are that even Susan`s father has said that they had marital problems, but they seemed to be working through them. Friends say that they had had problems involving finances, et cetera, and that at one point divorce was an issue that had been discussed, but that they had appeared to be putting all that behind them. What can you tell us about that?

HELLEWELL: They were very happy when they moved here five years ago. They`ve been married about eight years. And probably about two years ago, things started kind of falling apart. And I`m not going to go into detail about why or what or anything. It just was bad enough that she was going to leave. It was about a year and a half ago in the summer.

Then she decided that she would try to work it out. And they had been working on it, and they both said that things were a lot better the last couple of months.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0912/15/ijvm.01.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 12:44:13 PM
KIIRSI HELLEWELL - IN HER OWN WORDS

Husband of Missing Mom Susan Powell Lawyers Up
Susan Powell, 28, Feared Dead After Disappearing Dec. 7


"She's been gone for an entire week. I don't believe there can be any, very much hope left," a tearful Kiirsi Hellewell, Powell's best friend, told ABC News. "I'm trying to stay busy and not think about it. But I don't see how there's any way she can still be alive." ...

Joshua Powell told police that he last saw his wife around 12:30 a.m. before he and the boys left for their trip and that she didn't go along because she was feeling sick.
 
Yet Hellewell said she talked to Susan Powell on Sunday and she wasn't sick.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/susan-powell-missing-utah-mom-missing-week/story?id=9326774


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 04, 2010, 12:46:36 PM
I'm even wondering if Kiirsi was told by LE what to say, some kind of strategy of some kind. She has flip flopped.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 12:58:59 PM
EVIDENCE TURNED OVER TO AUTHORITIES

E-mails from Susan Powell told of marriage struggles
Published: Tuesday, Dec. 22, 2009


WEST VALLEY CITY — E-mails sent last year by Susan Powell to friends told of marriage struggles between her and her husband to the point that she seemed to be in fear of him.

Several of her friends, who wished to remain anonymous, confirmed to the Deseret News that they had turned over to police e-mails that she sent them in June and July of 2008, the point when all friends agreed the Powells' marriage was at its worst.

One friend confirmed that in one of the e-mails, Susan Powell said she was afraid Josh Powell might kidnap her two boys, divorce her or worse.

The friend said Susan Powell had talked to her one day about something she had written and left in her desk at work.

"She had mentioned about writing something so that no one would ever think she committed suicide. She said it would be so her boys would know that she would never kill herself, because she would never leave her boys alone," the friend said.

MORE:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353467/Friends-turn-over-e-mails-sent-by-Susan-Powell.html?linkTrack=rss-30


KIIRSI HELLEWELL'S RESPONSE

Susan Powell's best friend says recent reports could be damaging to investigation
Last Update: 12/24/2009 8:11 am


Susan Powell's best friend talks exclusively with ABC4 tonight, saying the information from "anonymous leaks" to local publications may be hurting the police investigation.  Kiirsi Hellewell says she's questioning why these so called sources are going to local news outlets instead of the police.  Kiirsi says she's skeptical about some of the recent revelations printed in local publications.  She says Susan told her "pretty much everything".  She's worried the recent leaks might be hindering the work of the police. ...

She told us she hopes the focus stays on bringing Susan back home to her two children ...

MORE:
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Susan-Powells-best-friend-says-recent-reports/MBlD-1qZiU6rVNfZLj874A.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 04, 2010, 01:04:49 PM
Reality has Hit and Now Depression sets in.
She is very truthful with herself in preparation for some very bad news.

1 week in this case is a lifetime for Kiirsi Hellewell.

These people are extremely nice...so very kind ..so very considerate..

If that were one of my own that was missing
I would have gotten my answer with a baseball bat by now.. Concern for damages? None..
But that is just me. ::MonkeyDevil::


jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 01:12:23 PM
I'm even wondering if Kiirsi was told by LE what to say, some kind of strategy of some kind. She has flip flopped.

Could the strategy of the investigation be to use Susan Powell's best friend to direct attention away from Josh Powell?  Could the strategy be to keep all evidence sealed ... evidence that could implicate Josh Powell?

Janet

+++++

Susan Powell's best friend says recent reports could be damaging to investigation
Last Update: 12/24/2009 8:11 am


Hellewell says, “I'm just surprised by some of the things that came out this week because it's not anything she's ever told me before, and she pretty much told me everything.”  She adds that she doesn't know who these “anonymous sources” are, but she encourages anyone with fact-based valuable information to go straight to the police.  Hellewell says, “A lot of us, even though we really want to help, it's really not helping.  It's hurting more by talking about all these details that really should be kept between the police.”

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Susan-Powells-best-friend-says-recent-reports/MBlD-1qZiU6rVNfZLj874A.cspx




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 01:18:37 PM
I messed up.  Would a mod please delete post "Reply 552".

Thank you.

Janet

Done.  YW Janet.  MB


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 01:48:38 PM
I could be wrong but somehow I believe that the Mormon faith may be the root of the distancing of Josh Powell from implication in his wife's disappearance despite all the huge red flags to the contrary.

1.  Could it be that Josh's Utah family are in are pulling strings within the organization's hiearchy on his behalf.

2.  Could it be that Josh and/or his anti-Mormon father has the ability to expose be what the closed organization does not want exposed as it relates to Josh and Susan Powell's relationship.

3.  Could it be that Tamikosmom is suspecting a conspiracy where there is not one and ... stuff is going on behind the scenes that dictate there will ultimately be justice for Susan Powell?

Janet

++++++

Powell took his time getting home, neighbor says
Why was husband so slow to come home on first day?
Published: Wednesday, Dec. 23, 2009 10:05 p.m. MST


When Josh and Susan Powell were first married, both were very active in the LDS Church, Petersen said. They were sealed in the temple. But once they moved to Utah, Josh Powell stopped attending church.

Petersen said the Powells' marriage counselor instructed Susan Powell to set specific goals. Susan Powell told her husband that her goal was for him to become active in the church again by the end of 2009 and to have his temple recommend again by their anniversary in the spring. Otherwise, she was going to divorce him and take the children, Petersen said.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353673/Friend-Powell-took-time-getting-home.html?pg=2



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 04, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Thanks Northern, I suppose this blitz could work, I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out why they may think Susan was taken against her will from the home, I never read that things in the house looked like they were disturbed from a struggle.

IMO the media blitz should be about Josh and the Van.  If they can get that plastered all over the place maybe someone will recall seeing it by the side of the road, or by a cave entrance, or an abandoned mine, etc.  Find where he went and you find Susan.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 02:25:49 PM
Reality has Hit and Now Depression sets in.
She is very truthful with herself in preparation for some very bad news.

1 week in this case is a lifetime for Kiirsi Hellewell.

These people are extremely nice...so very kind ..so very considerate..

If that were one of my own that was missing

I would have gotten my answer with a baseball bat by now.. Concern for damages? None..

But that is just me. ::MonkeyDevil::


jmho


Edward ... my hubby is very kind ... very conservative but ... he also would have gotten answers from Josh Powell by now if Susan Powell was our daughter.

The friends and family of Susan Powell have done a flip flop when their past hardline position on the talk show circuit are considered ... past hardline position regarding the huge red flags that appear to implicate Josh Powell.  WHY?

Whatever the dynamics are behind the scenes that appears to be influencing the investigation ... my heart goes out to Susan Powell's parents.  Yesterday on the Today Show  ... Charles Cox looked like a broken man.

Janet

+++++


Susan Powell Case: A Missing Mother from Utah Remains a Mystery
January 03, 2010


Susan's father and one of her best friends were on the Today show to discuss the case. Her father expressed that he doesn't like the way that Josh has been treated.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2550925/susan_powell_case_a_missing_mother.html?cat=8



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 04, 2010, 02:34:37 PM
Thanks Northern, I suppose this blitz could work, I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out why they may think Susan was taken against her will from the home, I never read that things in the house looked like they were disturbed from a struggle.

IMO the media blitz should be about Josh and the Van.  If they can get that plastered all over the place maybe someone will recall seeing it by the side of the road, or by a cave entrance, or an abandoned mine, etc.  Find where he went and you find Susan.
I totally agree.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 02:36:46 PM
Thanks Northern, I suppose this blitz could work, I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out why they may think Susan was taken against her will from the home, I never read that things in the house looked like they were disturbed from a struggle.

IMO the media blitz should be about Josh and the Van.  If they can get that plastered all over the place maybe someone will recall seeing it by the side of the road, or by a cave entrance, or an abandoned mine, etc.  Find where he went and you find Susan.

I agree Northern Rose!

The emphasis should be on the Van as well as the rental vehicle.  All details regarding these two vehicles should be the focus of this media blitz.  IMO

Janet

++++++


Police ask why Powell drove so far in rental car
By Pat Reavy
Deseret News
Published: Monday, Dec. 21, 2009 9:03 p.m. MST


WEST VALLEY CITY — A car rented by Josh Powell two days after his wife was reported missing was returned just 24 hours later with a lot of miles on it, according to police.

"It looks like there were several hundred miles driven," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News.

Investigators do not know where the car was taken or where Josh Powell was during that 24-hour period. There was no GPS data stored in that rental car, said McLachlan, who declined Monday to say from where the vehicle was rented.

Powell reportedly rented the car after police seized his minivan — his only vehicle — to be processed for evidence in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. The van has since been returned to Josh Powell.

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353130/Police-ask-why-Powell-drove-so-far-in-rental-car.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 02:38:30 PM
SELF-EDIT - ABOVE POST

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 04, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
Traffic light cameras.
gas station and convenience store surveillance cameras.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 03:59:08 PM
Thanks Northern, I suppose this blitz could work, I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out why they may think Susan was taken against her will from the home, I never read that things in the house looked like they were disturbed from a struggle.

IMO the media blitz should be about Josh and the Van.  If they can get that plastered all over the place maybe someone will recall seeing it by the side of the road, or by a cave entrance, or an abandoned mine, etc.  Find where he went and you find Susan.

I agree Northern Rose!

The emphasis should be on the Van as well as the rental vehicle.  All details regarding these two vehicles should be the focus of this media blitz.  IMO

Janet

++++++


Police ask why Powell drove so far in rental car
By Pat Reavy
Deseret News
Published: Monday, Dec. 21, 2009 9:03 p.m. MST


WEST VALLEY CITY — A car rented by Josh Powell two days after his wife was reported missing was returned just 24 hours later with a lot of miles on it, according to police.

"It looks like there were several hundred miles driven," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News.

Investigators do not know where the car was taken or where Josh Powell was during that 24-hour period. There was no GPS data stored in that rental car, said McLachlan, who declined Monday to say from where the vehicle was rented.

Powell reportedly rented the car after police seized his minivan — his only vehicle — to be processed for evidence in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. The van has since been returned to Josh Powell.

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353130/Police-ask-why-Powell-drove-so-far-in-rental-car.html



Maybe the discription of the vehicles is sealed by the prosecutor along with the search warrants.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 04, 2010, 04:19:58 PM
Think about it.

There was no official alert by investigators in regards to the description of either the van or the rental vehicle.  In the course of the investigation ... investigators did not request the public's assistance in regards to sightings in determining the whereabouts of Josh Powell on the night his wife went missing or ... the 24 hour period he went missing with a rental vehicle.

It was as if Utah authorities did not want that information to come forward.

What is wrong with this picture?

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on January 04, 2010, 04:41:27 PM
Traffic light cameras.
gas station and convenience store surveillance cameras.


dont forget gas and credit cards

some info links for those, wondering about mormons

#V
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Course_Pages/legal_systems_very_different_06/papers_05/LDS.htm

The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons

http://www.exmormon.org/fourteen.htm
------------------------------------------------------------
MORMON BELIEFS:This site is maintained by Samuel E. West, elder

http://www.mormonbeliefs.com/   

marriage
http://www.mormonbeliefs.com/marriage,_sex,_adultery,_homosexuality.htm



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on January 04, 2010, 04:50:25 PM
Traffic light cameras.
gas station and convenience store surveillance cameras.


dont forget the gas and credit cards

some links to mormon info

#V
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Course_Pages/legal_systems_very_different_06/papers_05/LDS.htm
-----------------------------------------
The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons

http://www.exmormon.org/fourteen.htm
------------------------------------------------------------
MORMON BELIEFS:This site is maintained by Samuel E. West, elder

http://www.mormonbeliefs.com/   

marriage
http://www.mormonbeliefs.com/marriage,_sex,_adultery,_homosexuality.htm


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 04, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
88 comments
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9225441&comments=true


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 04, 2010, 09:59:14 PM


BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 04, 2010, 11:17:09 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/01/04/missing-utah-woman-susan-powell-what-does-husband-josh-know/

Missing Utah Woman Susan Powell: What Does Husband Josh Know?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 04, 2010, 11:22:42 PM
FYI - feel free to start new thread topics now that Susan Powell has her own high profile forum area.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 12:16:08 AM
I messed up.  Would a mod please delete post "Reply 552".

Thank you.

Janet

Done.  YW Janet.  MB

Thank you.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 12:23:02 AM
Traffic light cameras.
gas station and convenience store surveillance cameras.


dont forget the gas and credit cards

some links to mormon info

#V
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Course_Pages/legal_systems_very_different_06/papers_05/LDS.htm
-----------------------------------------
The fourteen fundamental articles or beliefs of Mormons

http://www.exmormon.org/fourteen.htm
------------------------------------------------------------
MORMON BELIEFS:This site is maintained by Samuel E. West, elder

http://www.mormonbeliefs.com/   

marriage
http://www.mormonbeliefs.com/marriage,_sex,_adultery,_homosexuality.htm


Thank you CW618

I have read several books that were authored by ex-Mormons ... books exposing the control that the Church has over its membership.  I have a basic understanding from the writers' perspectives but felt I wanted knowledge from someone I knew who was a Mormon.

I contacted a very nice Mormon lady that I volunteered along side at a Problem Pregnacy Center for seven years ... a multi-denomination (Evangelical/Catholic/Mormons/Dutch Reform) ministry that offered assistance financially, practically and emotionally to girls/women who find themselves in difficult situations resulting from unplanned pregnacies.  I was involved in this miniatry up to to two years ago.

I requested information from this lady regarding her Church's stand on marriage between a believer and an unbeliever ... whether or not ... after failed counselling ... the believer is instructed/encouraged to divorce the unbeliever ... remarry a believer to ... ensure that the union will last for eternity.  According to ex-Mormons' writings that I have read ... this is my understanding.

This evening this Mormon lady is going through and compiling literature for me and ... will drop it off at my home on her way to work tomorrow morning.

I am not justifying any wrongdoing but ... I am wondering if the in-church counselling that Susan and Josh Powell received was instrumental in causing a controlling/possessive husband to break.

Janet

+++++++

Powell took his time getting home, neighbor says
Why was husband so slow to come home on first day?
Published: Wednesday, Dec. 23, 2009 10:05 p.m. MST


When Josh and Susan Powell were first married, both were very active in the LDS Church, Petersen said. They were sealed in the temple. But once they moved to Utah, Josh Powell stopped attending church.

Petersen said the Powells' marriage counselor instructed Susan Powell to set specific goals. Susan Powell told her husband that her goal was for him to become active in the church again by the end of 2009 and to have his temple recommend again by their anniversary in the spring. Otherwise, she was going to divorce him and take the children, Petersen said.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353673/Friend-Powell-took-time-getting-home.html?pg=2




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on January 05, 2010, 08:36:18 AM
Missing Utah Woman Susan Powell: husband of missing woman, Josh Powell, plans to move out of state (video)
Posted by Melissa Finlay On January - 5 - 2010

Breaking news in the case of missing Utah woman Susan Powell, her husband, Josh Powell, plans to move out of state and take the couple’s two young children to Washington. The announcement of the move has been met with skepticism by many in the public. Though Josh Powell has not been named a suspect in his wife’s disappearance, he is a person of interest.

--snipped

http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=2144


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 05, 2010, 09:19:57 AM
Thanks Leroy.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 05, 2010, 09:27:09 AM
POS  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 05, 2010, 09:32:54 AM
POS  ::MonkeyMad::
I'll second that, he is disgusting  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Blink34 on January 05, 2010, 09:59:52 AM
You guys have been hard at work on this already. I was asked by a family friend to do a piece on it and like you, I do think some investigative errors have occurred in this case.

Nothing I think that will ultimately interfere with a successful prosecution, but for me it has aways been about the speed in which a body can be located to preserve evidence AND his kids are in his care...

In the piece, I went into specifics about the fact I think his profile lends itself to putting her in water, and there are limited options in that record, which, if I am correct, would be lucky for LE.

In fact, two of them have 360 degree cameras. I wonder if he knew that.

Edward is correct, all traffic cams and gas station surveillance should be pulled. We know he had his phone, what do the pings tell us? I hope the West Valley City PD asks for help from the FBI, I believe there is enough evidence to substantiate such a request.

One thing is very important. This guy was interrupted. He had not counted on the fact that Police would be at his house before him. I want to know the make/color/model of both vehicles he used since December 6th.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 05, 2010, 10:29:37 AM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 05, 2010, 10:29:59 AM
I have been locked out of the cage again.....    ::MonkeyEek::

I think he is a POS too.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 05, 2010, 10:30:47 AM
Thanks Blink. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Blink34 on January 05, 2010, 10:59:37 AM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

I think many have. So did I until I did the research. There are 2 hotsprings that feed into Utah lake, and even still, in the regular "launches or inlets" it does not freeze solid. Although enough to keep a body hidden for a while based on where she potentially is, perhaps. Comes back to the generator for me. What type and size?

I do believe this is a viable location for Susan, but I look at it this way, absent evidence of her being somewhere else, for now, running aerials in these areas should be standard. This water could be low enough for certain equipment to pick up anomaly.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 05, 2010, 11:10:05 AM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

I think many have. So did I until I did the research. There are 2 hotsprings that feed into Utah lake, and even still, in the regular "launches or inlets" it does not freeze solid. Although enough to keep a body hidden for a while based on where she potentially is, perhaps. Comes back to the generator for me. What type and size?

I do believe this is a viable location for Susan, but I look at it this way, absent evidence of her being somewhere else, for now, running aerials in these areas should be standard. This water could be low enough for certain equipment to pick up anomaly.
Very interesting, didn't know about the hotsprings. I'm confused with the generator, since I am not an outdoor type of person, and have camped once in my life, I don't know anything about generators, let alone type and size. Help  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 05, 2010, 11:54:54 AM
Missing Utah Woman Susan Powell: husband of missing woman, Josh Powell, plans to move out of state (video)
Posted by Melissa Finlay On January - 5 - 2010

Breaking news in the case of missing Utah woman Susan Powell, her husband, Josh Powell, plans to move out of state and take the couple’s two young children to Washington. The announcement of the move has been met with skepticism by many in the public. Though Josh Powell has not been named a suspect in his wife’s disappearance, he is a person of interest.

--snipped

http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=2144

Big POS.  Saw it coming though with having friends moving large items out of house when he high tailed to be with daddy.  He can not afford the payments on the house either as Susan was the bread winner.  He is now going to let all she worked for get taken away.  IMO he has clearly cut ties with the church as there is no doubt they would have helped him keep the house etc. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 05, 2010, 12:12:47 PM
You guys have been hard at work on this already. I was asked by a family friend to do a piece on it and like you, I do think some investigative errors have occurred in this case.

Nothing I think that will ultimately interfere with a successful prosecution, but for me it has aways been about the speed in which a body can be located to preserve evidence AND his kids are in his care...

In the piece, I went into specifics about the fact I think his profile lends itself to putting her in water, and there are limited options in that record, which, if I am correct, would be lucky for LE.

In fact, two of them have 360 degree cameras. I wonder if he knew that.

Edward is correct, all traffic cams and gas station surveillance should be pulled. We know he had his phone, what do the pings tell us? I hope the West Valley City PD asks for help from the FBI, I believe there is enough evidence to substantiate such a request.

One thing is very important. This guy was interrupted. He had not counted on the fact that Police would be at his house before him. I want to know the make/color/model of both vehicles he used since December 6th.

There was an interview of the land management guy/warden at the campsite that LE was looking at early on.  HE stated that there was no cell phone coverage in that area and that in fact his two way radio did not work out there.  The pings may show where his final destination with Susan was.  End of Nov there was a high profile death int he Nutty Putty Cave.  The body of the man who died is being left in the cave as recovery is too dangerous.  Utah is riddled with caves and old mines.  What are your thoughts of him getting an idea of where to put Susan so she can not be found from the Nov Nutty Putty death?

Here is a video of the rental car as he gets out of it.
http://www.youtube.com/v/aCXDpQEfZm8&hl=en_US&fs=1&

This video shows him getting into his van to get away from reporters
http://www.youtube.com/v/UhDjpHslsE4&hl=en_US&fs=1&

This video also shows Josh getting into the van as well as the van in the garage
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y40HewCTUaM&hl=en_US&fs=1&


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 05, 2010, 12:59:11 PM
Water ?

He really is acting like Scott Peterson.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 05, 2010, 01:01:25 PM
Separate him from his kids and let him bake for awhile..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 05, 2010, 03:19:59 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-11513-Seattle-StayatHome-Moms-Examiner~y2010m1d5-Social-media-blitz-for-Susan-Powell-produces-tips-for-police
Social media blitz for Susan Powell produces tips for police
January 5, 11:10 AMSeattle Stay-at-Home Moms ExaminerEmylou Lewis
January 5, 2010 --  Yesterday, the social blitz designed to spread awareness of missing mom Susan Powell was launched.  The Salt Lake Tribune reported that the social meida blitz has produced about a dozen tips for the police.  Capt. Tom McLachlan of the West Valley City Police said the internet social media blitz is something new and they think it's going to be positive. 

Shelby GIfford, the Cox family's media spokesperson spoke about the tips:  "They're remembering things and they're bringing some information to the table that's worthy of follow-up."

Susan Powell, the missing mom who grew up in Washington has been missing since the 7th of December 2009.  Susan's friend, Kiirsi Hellewell said, "I think that with two million eyes looking instead of 2,000 eyes, we have a whole lot better chance of finding something."

If you have seen Susan Powell, please call 911 right away.  There is a $10,000 reward for any information which can lead to her whereabouts.

Source:

Salt Lake Tribune


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 03:57:46 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Blink34 on January 05, 2010, 04:04:09 PM

From Northern Rose:

This video also shows Josh getting into the van as well as the van in the garage
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y40HewCTUaM&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Can you or anyone else tell the make/model of this van?  Chevy Venture?

On the Putty Cave death, I don't think at that time of night this guy is humping through snow and subzero temps with 2 kids in a running or nearby car hooked to a generator to an area where he could get stranded and die himself.

He's a lazy dumbass in fear of getting caught red handed. What is missing from the house will probably tell us..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 04:29:44 PM

From Northern Rose:

This video also shows Josh getting into the van as well as the van in the garage
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y40HewCTUaM&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Can you or anyone else tell the make/model of this van?  Chevy Venture?

On the Putty Cave death, I don't think at that time of night this guy is humping through snow and subzero temps with 2 kids in a running or nearby car hooked to a generator to an area where he could get stranded and die himself.

He's a lazy dumbass in fear of getting caught red handed. What is missing from the house will probably tell us..

Blink

In the course of the investigation ... the releasing of the images and discription of the vehicles is the responsibity of law enforcement.

Why do you think there was not an immediate public alert requesting assistance from anybody who may have spotted Josh Powel ... spotted either vehicle ... in that crucial time period.  A 28 year old young mother was missing ... a public alert that included images of Josh Powell ... a public alert that included images and discription of the vehicles ... could have gone a long way in generating tips?

My youngest son's friend who is in law enforcement stopped in this morning for a quick cuppa coffee which lasted one hour.  I shared my frustrations.  This young man cannot comprehend the lack of action encompassing the vehicles when the Utah investigators realized that Josh Powell ... after one interview ... was no longer cooperating ... realized that Josh had obtained a high profile attorney.  The locating of the Susan Powell was not a concern.

In my opinion ... this law enforcement needs to be investigated.  The FBI need to be called in.

Janet
1:30 PM PT

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 05, 2010, 04:51:14 PM

From Northern Rose:

This video also shows Josh getting into the van as well as the van in the garage
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y40HewCTUaM&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Can you or anyone else tell the make/model of this van?  Chevy Venture?

On the Putty Cave death, I don't think at that time of night this guy is humping through snow and subzero temps with 2 kids in a running or nearby car hooked to a generator to an area where he could get stranded and die himself.

He's a lazy dumbass in fear of getting caught red handed. What is missing from the house will probably tell us..

Here is a capture of the back of the van if it helps.  I think there are enough caves and old mines in Utah that he could drive up to a shaft and dump her in a hidy hole and then go on with his camping someplace else.  The snow that fell would erase any tracks and he either knew it or got lucky.  Whatever happened, he knows more than he is saying.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 05:40:12 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 05, 2010, 05:45:38 PM

From Northern Rose:

This video also shows Josh getting into the van as well as the van in the garage
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y40HewCTUaM&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Can you or anyone else tell the make/model of this van?  Chevy Venture?

On the Putty Cave death, I don't think at that time of night this guy is humping through snow and subzero temps with 2 kids in a running or nearby car hooked to a generator to an area where he could get stranded and die himself.

He's a lazy dumbass in fear of getting caught red handed. What is missing from the house will probably tell us..

Here is a capture of the back of the van if it helps.  I think there are enough caves and old mines in Utah that he could drive up to a shaft and dump her in a hidy hole and then go on with his camping someplace else.  The snow that fell would erase any tracks and he either knew it or got lucky.  Whatever happened, he knows more than he is saying.



I believe the van is a Chrysler.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 05, 2010, 05:49:03 PM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

I think many have. So did I until I did the research. There are 2 hotsprings that feed into Utah lake, and even still, in the regular "launches or inlets" it does not freeze solid. Although enough to keep a body hidden for a while based on where she potentially is, perhaps. Comes back to the generator for me. What type and size?

I do believe this is a viable location for Susan, but I look at it this way, absent evidence of her being somewhere else, for now, running aerials in these areas should be standard. This water could be low enough for certain equipment to pick up anomaly.

The levels of Utah Lake are always low - comparatively.  It is not at all a deep lake, by any means.

Blink, have you thought at all of the possibility that his red, chapped hands were the result of a chemical used in the carpet cleaner found in the home?  Or possibly a mild case of frostbite?



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 05, 2010, 05:51:01 PM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

The Great Salt Lake (west of the Salt Lake valley, via I80 westbound toward Nevada) never freezes due to its composition.  It is also a massive body of water.  Conversely, it is not very deep at all, and bouyancy levels are extremely high.  Unless weighted, a body would float from the onset.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 05, 2010, 05:52:55 PM
FYI - as far as caves are concerned, I believe most would have been inaccessible to most vehicles (that aren't 4 wheel drive) by the date Susan went missing.

Except possibly for some in the West desert.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 05, 2010, 05:53:58 PM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

The Great Salt Lake (west of the Salt Lake valley, via I80 westbound toward Nevada) never freezes due to its composition.  It is also a massive body of water.  Conversely, it is not very deep at all, and bouyancy levels are extremely high.  Unless weighted, a body would float from the onset.
Thank-you, I did not know that.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 05, 2010, 05:56:41 PM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

The Great Salt Lake (west of the Salt Lake valley, via I80 westbound toward Nevada) never freezes due to its composition.  It is also a massive body of water.  Conversely, it is not very deep at all, and bouyancy levels are extremely high.  Unless weighted, a body would float from the onset.

One more thought on bodies of water in Utah.

Utah Lake and the Great Salt Lake pretty well cover the possibilities along the Wasatch Front (with the addition of Willard Bay, North of the Salt Lake Valley).

Any lakes to the East and further North would have been mostly frozen at that point, if not completely frozen.

Some (to the East, up in the Wasatch Mountains) where people have either capzised on boats or been lost swimming - bodies of which have never been found:

Strawberry Reservoir
Deer Creek Reservoir
Starvation Reservoir


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 05, 2010, 05:57:22 PM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

The Great Salt Lake (west of the Salt Lake valley, via I80 westbound toward Nevada) never freezes due to its composition.  It is also a massive body of water.  Conversely, it is not very deep at all, and bouyancy levels are extremely high.  Unless weighted, a body would float from the onset.
Thank-you, I did not know that.

You're welcome.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on January 05, 2010, 07:31:45 PM
Thanks Northern, I suppose this blitz could work, I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out why they may think Susan was taken against her will from the home, I never read that things in the house looked like they were disturbed from a struggle.

IMO the media blitz should be about Josh and the Van.  If they can get that plastered all over the place maybe someone will recall seeing it by the side of the road, or by a cave entrance, or an abandoned mine, etc.  Find where he went and you find Susan.

Exactly.
Refresh the public about the van description. Even at night someone may have seen something, but without the "look at this" trigger it will be forgotten.

So far, NOTHING has been said about the van driven by Josh to who-knows-where with 2 little kids. Gas stations or rest areas, fast food places... all those surveillance videos should have been checked. Too big a job? Well yeah, but it could show where he went. And therefore give a clur to where he put her.

I can't believe they let him go again in the rental car.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 05, 2010, 08:00:34 PM
I'm not a superstitious person but saw this and thought.....is it a sign?   ::MonkeyShocked::

http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=69651

2.9 Earthquake Rattles Saratoga Springs
Reported by:
Tuesday, Jan 5, 2010 @03:15pm

A 2.9 magnitude earthquake shook parts of the Utah Valley overnight.

The University of Utah Seismograph Station reports that the small earthquake occurred beneath the northwestern part of Utah Valley just after 1am Tuesday. The epicenter was located four miles southwest of Lehi.

The shock was felt by hundreds of residents in the area.

A 3.3 aftershock rocked Cedar City again Monday night just before 10.

Since 1962, 23 earthquakes with a magnitude of 3.0 or larger have occurred within 16 miles of that epicenter.

The largest quake was a 4.2 magnitude in June 1992.

Saratoga Springs......


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Saratoga2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Saratoga1.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Saratoga3.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on January 05, 2010, 08:21:47 PM
From the bankruptcy documents, the van is a 2005 Chrysler Town & Country, if it is the same van as they had then.

I have a few captures of Josh and his Mom getting into the van with the boys (in the pb album) and I also am saving the capture from the vid linked here, TY Northern Rose.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
I am trying to comprehend why Kiirsi Hellewell, family and friends have flip flop from their original positon of doubting Josh Powell. Could it be that instructions from somewhere dictate that a runaway/ kidnapped Susan Powell should be the focus and ... bowing to those instructions is where it is at.

++++++
   
KIIRSI HELLEWELL - DECEMBER 14, 2009
   
Husband of Missing Mom Susan Powell Lawyers Up
Susan Powell, 28, Feared Dead After Disappearing Dec. 7
December 14, 2009

   
"She's been gone for an entire week. I don't believe there can be any, very much hope left," a tearful Kiirsi Hellewell, Powell's best friend, told ABC News. "I'm trying to stay busy and not think about it. But I don't see how there's any way she can still be alive." ...
   
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/susan-powell-missing-utah-mom-missing-week/story?id=9326774
   
   
KIIRSI HELLEWELL - DECEMBER 24, 2009
   
Susan Powell's best friend says recent reports could be damaging to investigation
Last Update: 12/24/2009 8:11 am

   
She told us she hopes the focus stays on bringing Susan back home to her two children because she says Susan's oldest son is starting to miss his mommy. Hellewell says, “I know that he doesn't understand why she's gone, somebody whose always been there for him, for every step of his life.”
   
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Susan-Powells-best-friend-says-recent-reports/MBlD-1qZiU6rVNfZLj874A.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 08:58:59 PM
I afford Susan's father a pass for flip flopping. He is between a rock and a hard place. If Josh is not held accountable for what happened to his precious daughter ... if the investigation is being influenced by outside entities on Josh's behalf ... this man's future relationship with his grandkids is in the balance.
   
However ... I do not give a pass to Josh's groupies who are behind this media blitz ... this media blitz that is focused on locating a "live" Susan. It is nothing but a distraction from the red flags which implicate Josh in wrongdoing encompassing his the disappearance of his wife.

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Susan Powell's husband Josh meets with West Valley City police
Published: Tuesday, Dec. 15, 2009 10:16 p.m. MST

   
Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan Powell's best friend, said she has been in contact with Josh Powell on a daily basis but hasn't asked him specific questions about Susan in an effort not to interfere with the investigation or to lose his trust as a friend.
   
"He doesn't do a lot of talking. He mostly looks upset and confused and is crying most of the time," Hellewell said.
   
She said she sat next to Josh Powell at church on Sunday and that he cried through most of the service.
   
http://archive.deseretnews.com/article/705351731/Josh-Powell-attends-WVC-police-interview-Tuesday-about-missing-wife-Susan-Powell.html?pg=2


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 09:33:46 PM
It appears that Charles Cox and Kiirsti Hellewell are now on the same page in regards to Josh Powell.  For now I will give Charles Cox a pass.

Janet

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CHARLES COX

DECEMBER 22, 2009


Josh Powell's Washington trip raises eyebrows
Last Update: 12/22/2009 1:52 am


Sunday evening Josh Powell showed up unannounced at a candlelight vigil for his wife. During that appearance, he was shielded from the cameras and just about everyone else by a circle of friends. Not even his father-in-law, Chuck Cox, could get through to talk to him.

Cox said, "We've had no contact with Josh. We don't know what his plans are. I didn't even know he was coming up here." Cox once defended Powell, but now is obviously upset that he has stopped cooperating with police. "Until we get some solid information about what really happened that night ... that morning ... that day ... there are still a lot of unanswered questions."

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Josh-Powells-Washington-trip-raises-eyebrows/YMht8xWvVkideITAGsTQ3g.cspx


JANUARY 3, 2010

Susan Powell Case: A Missing Mother from Utah Remains a Mystery
January 03, 2010


Susan's father and one of her best friends were on the Today show to discuss the case. Her father expressed that he doesn't like the way that Josh has been treated.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2550925/susan_powell_case_a_missing_mother.html?cat=8


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 10:00:28 PM
Apparently ... according to Facebook ... Charles Cox is administrator of a search fund for his daughter.  Consider I have a hinky feeling in regards to the media blitz ... I have made the decision not to register.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=198478842187

What are the details encompassing this search?  Did I miss something?  Story of my life.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

+++++++

Susan Powell became missing from her utah home in december all proceeds will go towards a fund that has been setup to help with her search.Please help thank you.
   
http://www.cafepress.com/susanpowell


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 10:34:58 PM
Joshua Powell 'Blue cap' interview (Video)
December 27, 10:20 PM


... During the interview, Josh said, "I've been trying to figure out what I can do so I don't sit idle."

When asked if he had anything to say to address his wife's disappearance, Josh said, "I didn’t do anything, I mean, I don’t know where she’s at ... I don’t even know where to start looking."

Powell told interviewers his wife went to bed and he took his two young boys camping. He said, "You know, I got a pretty late start." When the interviewer asked, "9ish, something like that?"

Josh responded, "No it was later. A lot of times I go camping with my boys, you know, nothing big. I just go overnight and we do s'mores and stuff like that."

When asked "Where do you guys camp?" Josh responded, "We went down south to some trails down there."

"You mean like (inaudible)?" Josh said, "No, no, we actually just went down to the, uh, Pony Express."

The interviewer asked, "Pony Express trail?" Josh said, "Yeah".

Monday neither Josh nor Susan showed up for work. Josh was asked, "Why didn't you call to work?" Josh said, "You know, I was somehow thinking it was Sunday. I didn't go to church and I, I just missed a day."

"So you got confused what day it was?" Josh responded, "Yeah".

http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2009m12d27-Joshua-Powell-Blue-cap-interview-Video




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 05, 2010, 10:49:50 PM
When someone you love goes missing . . . the last thing you want to do is give up hope.  Reality comes soon enough, but for today, let there be a ray of hope to hang on to.  Are they in denial, probably.  But to call them "groupies" or allude to raising awareness as "hinky" is unkind, to say the least.
I helped search for "a live" Sarah Foxwell, even though in my heart I knew she would not be found alive.  A groupie, hinky . . . until you've mudded your own boots, kindly give Susan's family and friends some respect.  Their darkness will come soon enough and that's a living hell I wouldn't wish on anyone.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on January 05, 2010, 11:05:35 PM
When someone you love goes missing . . . the last thing you want to do is give up hope.  Reality comes soon enough, but for today, let there be a ray of hope to hang on to.  Are they in denial, probably.  But to call them "groupies" or allude to raising awareness as "hinky" is unkind, to say the least.
I helped search for "a live" Sarah Foxwell, even though in my heart I knew she would not be found alive.  A groupie, hinky . . . until you've mudded your own boots, kindly give Susan's family and friends some respect.  Their darkness will come soon enough and that's a living hell I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Sister....you have a wonderful and thoughtful way with the words you choose.  I am so
happy that you are here and that you provide us with this wisdom.  When families are
hoping and praying to see their loved one again, who are we to label any part of their
process.  I would rather we support them than tear them down.  Again, thank you.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 11:25:14 PM
Thanks Klaas.

I would join the media blitz effort in a bat of an eye IF Josh Powell's image along with the images/full description of his van and the rental vehicle were the focus rather than Susan Powell's image.

I would uphold the effort as doing what the investigators should have been doing in the first week following Susan's disappearance.  Maybe at least one person's memory would have been jogged regarding one of these vehicles in a location that seemed suspicious.

Janet

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Police ask why Powell drove so far in rental car
By Pat Reavy
Deseret News
Published: Monday, Dec. 21, 2009 9:03 p.m. MST


WEST VALLEY CITY — A car rented by Josh Powell two days after his wife was reported missing was returned just 24 hours later with a lot of miles on it, according to police.

"It looks like there were several hundred miles driven," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News.

Investigators do not know where the car was taken or where Josh Powell was during that 24-hour period. There was no GPS data stored in that rental car, said McLachlan, who declined Monday to say from where the vehicle was rented.  

Powell reportedly rented the car after police seized his minivan — his only vehicle — to be processed for evidence in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. The van has since been returned to Josh Powell.

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353130/Police-ask-why-Powell-drove-so-far-in-rental-car.html



Janet - I agree.  The focus needs to be on Josh and what he did to Susan, IMO. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 05, 2010, 11:30:28 PM
When someone you love goes missing . . . the last thing you want to do is give up hope.  Reality comes soon enough, but for today, let there be a ray of hope to hang on to.  Are they in denial, probably.  But to call them "groupies" or allude to raising awareness as "hinky" is unkind, to say the least.
I helped search for "a live" Sarah Foxwell, even though in my heart I knew she would not be found alive.  A groupie, hinky . . . until you've mudded your own boots, kindly give Susan's family and friends some respect.  Their darkness will come soon enough and that's a living hell I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Sister....you have a wonderful and thoughtful way with the words you choose.  I am so
happy that you are here and that you provide us with this wisdom.  When families are
hoping and praying to see their loved one again, who are we to label any part of their
process.  I would rather we support them than tear them down.  Again, thank you.

Mere, you are welcome. Susan's children, family, and friends need our prayers.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tibrogargan on January 05, 2010, 11:36:13 PM
I see nothing wrong with a media blitz of any case regardless of what images are portrayed.  If it adds even a snippet of information that brings answers then it is well worth the effort.  Possible the images of the vehicles could still be subject to LE ratification.

I commend all those who have spread the word about Susan being missing in whatever way they are able as it seems to me another way of being able to lend assistance to Susan and her family as a physical search is out of the question at present.  Much better than just sitting faceless behind a computer screen promulgating erroneous information, which to my way of thinking, is akin to spreading false gossip.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 05, 2010, 11:47:10 PM
Thanks Northern, I suppose this blitz could work, I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out why they may think Susan was taken against her will from the home, I never read that things in the house looked like they were disturbed from a struggle.

IMO the media blitz should be about Josh and the Van.  If they can get that plastered all over the place maybe someone will recall seeing it by the side of the road, or by a cave entrance, or an abandoned mine, etc.  Find where he went and you find Susan.

Exactly.
Refresh the public about the van description. Even at night someone may have seen something, but without the "look at this" trigger it will be forgotten.

So far, NOTHING has been said about the van driven by Josh to who-knows-where with 2 little kids. Gas stations or rest areas, fast food places... all those surveillance videos should have been checked. Too big a job? Well yeah, but it could show where he went. And therefore give a clur to where he put her.

I can't believe they let him go again in the rental car.

AmandaReckonwith, Northern Rose and no rose colored glasses

I agree.  Consider all the huge red flags that appear to implicate Josh in the disappearance of his wife ... the focus should be on this guy and ... where he drove with those vehicles.  Why authorities did not release the information regarding the vehicles Josh was driving is beyond my comprehension?

Northern Rose ... that you for the van images.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 05, 2010, 11:52:03 PM
I see nothing wrong with a media blitz of any case regardless of what images are portrayed.  If it adds even a snippet of information that brings answers then it is well worth the effort.  Possible the images of the vehicles could still be subject to LE ratification.

I commend all those who have spread the word about Susan being missing in whatever way they are able as it seems to me another way of being able to lend assistance to Susan and her family as a physical search is out of the question at present.  Much better than just sitting faceless behind a computer screen promulgating erroneous information, which to my way of thinking, is akin to spreading false gossip.
I wholeheartedly agree and appreciate your thoughts.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 05, 2010, 11:53:42 PM
From the bankruptcy documents, the van is a 2005 Chrysler Town & Country, if it is the same van as they had then.

I have a few captures of Josh and his Mom getting into the van with the boys (in the pb album) and I also am saving the capture from the vid linked here, TY Northern Rose.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/


Here is a generic 2005 Chrysler Town & Country:

(http://svr24.sitecube.com/builder/users/abbyjd/1241334/myimages/Inventory/05%20chyrsler%20town%20and%20country%20white%202.JPG)

From the link above:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/b.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 05, 2010, 11:59:27 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 06, 2010, 12:10:58 AM
From the bankruptcy documents, the van is a 2005 Chrysler Town & Country, if it is the same van as they had then.

I have a few captures of Josh and his Mom getting into the van with the boys (in the pb album) and I also am saving the capture from the vid linked here, TY Northern Rose.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/


Here is a generic 2005 Chrysler Town & Country:

(http://svr24.sitecube.com/builder/users/abbyjd/1241334/myimages/Inventory/05%20chyrsler%20town%20and%20country%20white%202.JPG)

From the link above:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/b.jpg)

Thanks Klaas

I cannot comprehend why Capt. Tom McLachlan of the West Valley City Police did not do a media blitz on the the week of December 7, 2009 in regards to the van and rental vehicle that Josh Powell was driving.  Images and descriptions of the vehicles as well as an image of Josh may have gone a long way toward generating tips from the public.  Maybe justice for Susan Powell would now be taking its course.

Janet 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 06, 2010, 12:28:57 AM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

The Great Salt Lake (west of the Salt Lake valley, via I80 westbound toward Nevada) never freezes due to its composition.  It is also a massive body of water.  Conversely, it is not very deep at all, and bouyancy levels are extremely high.  Unless weighted, a body would float from the onset.

One more thought on bodies of water in Utah.

Utah Lake and the Great Salt Lake pretty well cover the possibilities along the Wasatch Front (with the addition of Willard Bay, North of the Salt Lake Valley).

Any lakes to the East and further North would have been mostly frozen at that point, if not completely frozen.

Some (to the East, up in the Wasatch Mountains) where people have either capzised on boats or been lost swimming - bodies of which have never been found:

Strawberry Reservoir
Deer Creek Reservoir
Starvation Reservoir
Thanks to all the above, very informative and gives us a lot to ponder.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on January 06, 2010, 12:32:48 AM
Quote
I cannot comprehend why Capt. Tom McLachlan of the West Valley City Police did not do a media blitz on the the week of December 7, 2009 in regards to the van and rental vehicle that Josh Powell was driving.  Images and descriptions of the vehicles as well as an image of Josh may have gone a long way toward generating tips from the public.  Maybe justice for Susan Powell would now be taking its course.

i think as far as LE and the law if you dont have evidence of a crime involving said vehicle ect.
they cant look for it publicly/ as in we know they are looking, and would jeopardize the case maybe, not sure just a guess


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 06, 2010, 12:36:57 AM
Quote
I cannot comprehend why Capt. Tom McLachlan of the West Valley City Police did not do a media blitz on the the week of December 7, 2009 in regards to the van and rental vehicle that Josh Powell was driving.  Images and descriptions of the vehicles as well as an image of Josh may have gone a long way toward generating tips from the public.  Maybe justice for Susan Powell would now be taking its course.

i think as far as LE and the law if you dont have evidence of a crime involving said vehicle ect.
they cant look for it publicly/ as in we know they are looking, and would jeopardize the case maybe, not sure just a guess
cw, I think you're right.  I have a feeling this will be resolved sooner rather than later.  In the meantime, LE is doing more than we know and will not break the law to break this POS (sorry, that' what I think he is).


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: texasmom on January 06, 2010, 02:19:06 AM
When someone you love goes missing . . . the last thing you want to do is give up hope.  Reality comes soon enough, but for today, let there be a ray of hope to hang on to.  Are they in denial, probably.  But to call them "groupies" or allude to raising awareness as "hinky" is unkind, to say the least.
I helped search for "a live" Sarah Foxwell, even though in my heart I knew she would not be found alive.  A groupie, hinky . . . until you've mudded your own boots, kindly give Susan's family and friends some respect.  Their darkness will come soon enough and that's a living hell I wouldn't wish on anyone.

So true, thank you Sister.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 06, 2010, 07:58:55 AM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

I think many have. So did I until I did the research. There are 2 hotsprings that feed into Utah lake, and even still, in the regular "launches or inlets" it does not freeze solid. Although enough to keep a body hidden for a while based on where she potentially is, perhaps. Comes back to the generator for me. What type and size?

I do believe this is a viable location for Susan, but I look at it this way, absent evidence of her being somewhere else, for now, running aerials in these areas should be standard. This water could be low enough for certain equipment to pick up anomaly.

I mentioned 'bodies of water' back on 12/20. I wondered if they were frozen over at the time or if the salt would inhibit freezing
 Reply #357 on: December 20, 2009
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6666.msg1040561#msg1040561


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 06, 2010, 08:15:05 AM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

I think many have. So did I until I did the research. There are 2 hotsprings that feed into Utah lake, and even still, in the regular "launches or inlets" it does not freeze solid. Although enough to keep a body hidden for a while based on where she potentially is, perhaps. Comes back to the generator for me. What type and size?

I do believe this is a viable location for Susan, but I look at it this way, absent evidence of her being somewhere else, for now, running aerials in these areas should be standard. This water could be low enough for certain equipment to pick up anomaly.

I mentioned 'bodies of water' back on 12/20. I wondered if they were frozen over at the time or if the salt would inhibit freezing
 Reply #357 on: December 20, 2009
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6666.msg1040561#msg1040561

Nut, Kennecott has very high security and is tightly controlled.  It would greatly surprise me if Josh could have gained access to their tailing ponds.  Especially at that time of year.  Everything to do with visitors is shut down on Oct 1, including all the back (canyon) roads to view the mine itself.  The snow levels being the main reason for such closures.

Even without the security, Josh's van (I don't think) is not 4 wheel drive - and he would have had a difficult time going up any canyon back roads that first week in December.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 06, 2010, 08:24:14 AM
Quote
I cannot comprehend why Capt. Tom McLachlan of the West Valley City Police did not do a media blitz on the the week of December 7, 2009 in regards to the van and rental vehicle that Josh Powell was driving.  Images and descriptions of the vehicles as well as an image of Josh may have gone a long way toward generating tips from the public.  Maybe justice for Susan Powell would now be taking its course.

i think as far as LE and the law if you dont have evidence of a crime involving said vehicle ect.
they cant look for it publicly/ as in we know they are looking, and would jeopardize the case maybe, not sure just a guess
cw, I think you're right.  I have a feeling this will be resolved sooner rather than later.  In the meantime, LE is doing more than we know and will not break the law to break this POS (sorry, that' what I think he is).

I personally don't think she will be found until Spring - when the snow thaws.

Josh doesn't strike me as an intelligent or motivated person, and I think he drove somewhere and buried her in the snow.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mary on January 06, 2010, 08:42:46 AM
Maybe I'm a little hinkey, but I'm worried about the welfare of the 2 boys. Who has got
custody of the kids, his parents? I feel that if LE starts closing in on Josh, that he will
do something to himself and the kids. He does does not look very stable to me. I think
child welfare should step in until this is cleared up. JMO


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 06, 2010, 08:47:36 AM
Maybe I'm a little hinkey, but I'm worried about the welfare of the 2 boys. Who has got
custody of the kids, his parents? I feel that if LE starts closing in on Josh, that he will
do something to himself and the kids. He does does not look very stable to me. I think
child welfare should step in until this is cleared up. JMO

I agree Mary.  I think Josh himself has custody of the boys.  I think Susan's family needs to petition child services to have them removed from Josh's care, at least temporarily.  He is, after all, a person of interest.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 06, 2010, 09:07:39 AM


Exactly.
Refresh the public about the van description. Even at night someone may have seen something, but without the "look at this" trigger it will be forgotten.

So far, NOTHING has been said about the van driven by Josh to who-knows-where with 2 little kids. Gas stations or rest areas, fast food places... all those surveillance videos should have been checked. Too big a job? Well yeah, but it could show where he went. And therefore give a clur to where he put her.

I can't believe they let him go again in the rental car.

Well, if he really went West like he stated to LE, then it does reduce the area of surveillance cams to look at.  I don't know that I've seen what their address is?  Depending on how far west in West Valley they live, and if he really headed West, then cams out in Magna may have caught him.

Thinking along the lines of IF he went West - my money is on the Knolls sand dunes.  That would have been easy digging (even by hand - which might also explain the redness and chapped hands of his), and probably not a lot of snow to contend with.

Do we know - does the family have 4 wheelers and/or dirt bikes?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 06, 2010, 09:30:58 AM
This is my gut feeling on the route they need to look at surveillance cams



 
Driving directions to Knolls, UT
74.9 mi – about 1 hour 25 mins
Suggested routes

 
 

 6254 W 3945 S West Valley City, UT 84128 

1. Head northwest on W 3940 S/Bridle Farms Rd toward S 6775 W  0.1 mi
2. Continue onto W 3870 S/S 3910 W/Copperhill Dr  0.5 mi
3. Turn right at S 7200 W  0.6 mi
4. Turn left at W 3500 S  1.0 mi
5. Turn right at S 8000 W  1.5 mi
6. Turn left at W 2400 S/UT-201 W  4.4 mi
7. Turn right at UT-202 N  1.8 mi
8. Turn left to merge onto I-80 W toward Elko  62.7 mi
9. Take exit 41 toward Knolls  0.2 mi
10. Turn left  1.9 mi

 Knolls, UT


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 06, 2010, 10:37:21 AM
Maybe I'm a little hinkey, but I'm worried about the welfare of the 2 boys. Who has got
custody of the kids, his parents? I feel that if LE starts closing in on Josh, that he will
do something to himself and the kids. He does does not look very stable to me. I think
child welfare should step in until this is cleared up. JMO

I agree Mary.  I think Josh himself has custody of the boys.  I think Susan's family needs to petition child services to have them removed from Josh's care, at least temporarily.  He is, after all, a person of interest.

I think most of us will agree with that!!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 06, 2010, 11:18:01 AM
Take the boys away from him !! He will destabilize.. He will break down..
The boys were his reason and justification..
Take them away and he will BLOW..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on January 06, 2010, 11:27:29 AM
Take the boys away from him !! He will destabilize.. He will break down..
The boys were his reason and justification..
Take them away and he will BLOW..


I agree.  He now has what he wanted so why would he talk now.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 06, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
Take the boys away from him !! He will destabilize.. He will break down..
The boys were his reason and justification..
Take them away and he will BLOW..


I agree Edward.

Janet

++++++++

I afford Susan's father a pass for flip flopping. He is between a rock and a hard place. If Josh is not held accountable for what happened to his precious daughter ... if the investigation is being influenced by outside entities on Josh's behalf ... this man's future relationship with his grandkids is in the balance.
   
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The friends and family of Susan Powell have done a flip flop when their past hardline position on the talk show circuit are considered ... past hardline position regarding the huge red flags that appear to implicate Josh Powell.  WHY?

Whatever the dynamics are behind the scenes that appears to be influencing the investigation ... my heart goes out to Susan Powell's parents.  Yesterday on the Today Show  ... Charles Cox looked like a broken man.

Janet

+++++


Susan Powell Case: A Missing Mother from Utah Remains a Mystery
January 03, 2010


Susan's father and one of her best friends were on the Today show to discuss the case. Her father expressed that he doesn't like the way that Josh has been treated.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2550925/susan_powell_case_a_missing_mother.html?cat=8




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 06, 2010, 01:05:07 PM
Quote
I cannot comprehend why Capt. Tom McLachlan of the West Valley City Police did not do a media blitz on the the week of December 7, 2009 in regards to the van and rental vehicle that Josh Powell was driving.  Images and descriptions of the vehicles as well as an image of Josh may have gone a long way toward generating tips from the public.  Maybe justice for Susan Powell would now be taking its course.

i think as far as LE and the law if you dont have evidence of a crime involving said vehicle ect.
they cant look for it publicly/ as in we know they are looking, and would jeopardize the case maybe, not sure just a guess

cw618

I do not know the legal implications although a friend in our local LE indicated to me yesterday morning that he could not comprehend why Utah LE did not put out an immediate public alert on these two vehicles in regards to sightings.

However ... I do know that a 28 year old mother was missing and ... there were huge red flags implying the last person who drove those vehicles may have been involved in the disappearance.  Josh Powell's story did not make sense and ... he lawyered up following one interview.  I would have assumed that locating a missing Susan Powell would be the priority concern of LE.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 06, 2010, 03:07:32 PM
I'm even wondering if Kiirsi was told by LE  what to say, some kind of strategy of some kind. She has flip flopped.

You and I are are on the same page on this one no rose colored glasses.  I believe the strategy could possibly involves another entity besides the Utah LE.

Janet

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KIIRSI HELLEWELL - DECEMBER 14, 2009
   
Husband of Missing Mom Susan Powell Lawyers Up
Susan Powell, 28, Feared Dead After Disappearing Dec. 7
December 14, 2009

   
"She's been gone for an entire week. I don't believe there can be any, very much hope left,"  a tearful Kiirsi Hellewell, Powell's best friend, told ABC News. "I'm trying to stay busy and not think about it. But I don't see how there's any way she can still be alive." ...
   
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/susan-powell-missing-utah-mom-missing-week/story?id=9326774


KIIRSI HELLEWELL - DECEMBER 14, 2009

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Is Missing Woman`s Husband Stonewalling?
Aired December 15, 2009 - 19:00:00   ET


HELLEWELL: It`s absolutely unexplainable. I cannot understand it, and I know everybody is having a hard time believing it. I am myself having a hard time believing it, even though I`m Josh`s friend and I want to stand by him.

He has been known to I know go camping. And they always do sleep in their van. I don`t think they have a tent. They have gone camping three or four times this summer, and it has been a spur of the moment thing, but always on a Saturday morning, never at night, and never in the winter. So I cannot understand that.

Joshua Powell told police that he last saw his wife around 12:30 a.m. before he and the boys left for their trip and that she didn't go along because she was feeling sick.

Yet Hellewell said she talked to Susan Powell on Sunday and she wasn't sick.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0912/15/ijvm.01.html
 

KIIRSI HELLEWELL - DECEMBER 24, 2009
   
Susan Powell's best friend says recent reports could be damaging to investigation
Last Update: 12/24/2009 8:11 am

   
She told us she hopes the focus stays on bringing Susan back home to her two children because she says Susan's oldest son is starting to miss his mommy. Hellewell says, “I know that he doesn't understand why she's gone, somebody whose always been there for him, for every step of his life.”
   
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Susan-Powells-best-friend-says-recent-reports/MBlD-1qZiU6rVNfZLj874A.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Blink34 on January 06, 2010, 07:54:08 PM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

I think many have. So did I until I did the research. There are 2 hotsprings that feed into Utah lake, and even still, in the regular "launches or inlets" it does not freeze solid. Although enough to keep a body hidden for a while based on where she potentially is, perhaps. Comes back to the generator for me. What type and size?

I do believe this is a viable location for Susan, but I look at it this way, absent evidence of her being somewhere else, for now, running aerials in these areas should be standard. This water could be low enough for certain equipment to pick up anomaly.

The levels of Utah Lake are always low - comparatively.  It is not at all a deep lake, by any means.

Blink, have you thought at all of the possibility that his red, chapped hands were the result of a chemical used in the carpet cleaner found in the home?  Or possibly a mild case of frostbite?



I have. I addressed it on the blinksite. It is possible, but there was no bleach smell in the home and a steamer was found in recent use. I think it is likely it came from exposure- possible pre-frostbite from water submersion in those temps.

The levels of Utah lake are between 8 and 14 feet, with an average of 9, with 2-3 hotsprings feeding into it.
I agree a body would need to be in a container or weighted.
B


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Blink34 on January 06, 2010, 08:00:01 PM
Thanks Blink for the article, I had not thought about water, didn't enter my mind, I just assumed the bodies of water would have been frozen due to the temperatures.

I think many have. So did I until I did the research. There are 2 hotsprings that feed into Utah lake, and even still, in the regular "launches or inlets" it does not freeze solid. Although enough to keep a body hidden for a while based on where she potentially is, perhaps. Comes back to the generator for me. What type and size?

I do believe this is a viable location for Susan, but I look at it this way, absent evidence of her being somewhere else, for now, running aerials in these areas should be standard. This water could be low enough for certain equipment to pick up anomaly.

I mentioned 'bodies of water' back on 12/20. I wondered if they were frozen over at the time or if the salt would inhibit freezing
 Reply #357 on: December 20, 2009
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6666.msg1040561#msg1040561

Good intuition Nutt, as always.

I picked Utah Lake for a variety of reasons, but not the least of which, access, warm springs feeding into it, and a parking area where he could maintain visual contact. I truly believe he freaked, and did his business, and hoped for the best.

Nothing more.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Blink34 on January 06, 2010, 08:08:35 PM
I afford Susan's father a pass for flip flopping. He is between a rock and a hard place. If Josh is not held accountable for what happened to his precious daughter ... if the investigation is being influenced by outside entities on Josh's behalf ... this man's future relationship with his grandkids is in the balance.
   
However ... I do not give a pass to Josh's groupies who are behind this media blitz ... this media blitz that is focused on locating a "live" Susan. It is nothing but a distraction from the red flags which implicate Josh in wrongdoing encompassing his the disappearance of his wife.



Tamikosmom-

Respectfully, I think that assignment was harsh. I do not think these people are doing anything but trying to generate leads and hope for the best. They sound like they were specifically advised to not implicate Josh and that doing so might impede finding Susan. I obviously wrote a piece with a virtual map of where I believe initial efforts should be spent to recover her remains, so I do not support the bulk of what is being said, but I do not fault them for it. 

Not everyone is versed in the reality of this nightmare. There is no manual. Sometimes people just do the best they can and I suppose, leave the heavy lifting to the monkeys.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 06, 2010, 09:06:53 PM
Blink

I am a huge fan of your indepth research but we will have to agree to respectfully disagree on this issue.

The media blitz encourages others to be on the lookout for a "live" Susan Powell and ... in my opinion ... this is a distraction from all the red flags which direct suspicion on Josh Powell.

From my perspective ... the cause of justice for this young Mom is being deterred if the focus is not on her husband as well as all aspects encompassing his van and the rental vehicle.

In my opinion ... tips generated from sightings of either of these vehicle that Josh was driving in that crucial time is where it is at.  Why are authorities withholding discriptions from the public?

Susan has been missing for one month and ... nothing.  Something is not right.

IMO 

Janet 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 06, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
Thank you Janet...good post :)



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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 06, 2010, 09:58:20 PM
You are welcome Nut and ... thank you for the updated article.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 07, 2010, 12:26:15 AM
The way in which Susan's family and friends have chosen to search for her has not impeded or distracted the investigation of the authorities no matter how many red flags any of us see, particularly when LE has said it has helped.  Susan is their daughter and their friend and those loving people are doing what they perceive will be helpful.  If LE asks them to stop and they don't, that's one thing.  Should LE have BOLO the van etc, probably.
What is wrong in this case is a POI cannot be forced to say anything.  There is not a single person here that doesn't want justice for Susan, but to insinuate her family and friends are preventing or impeding justice for their beloved is cruel.  Now, this is just my opinion and I will not nor do I have to snip or bump or cut and paste others who may happen to agree with me in order for my opinion to be a valid opinion.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 07, 2010, 01:02:34 AM
I'm even wondering if Kiirsi was told by LE what to say, some kind of strategy of some kind. She has flip flopped.

You and I are are on the same page on this one no rose colored glasses.  I find Kiirsi's  change in position within a ten day period very troubling.

Janet

++++++

  
KIIRSI HELLEWELL - DECEMBER 14, 2009
  
Husband of Missing Mom Susan Powell Lawyers Up
Susan Powell, 28, Feared Dead After Disappearing Dec. 7
December 14, 2009

  
"She's been gone for an entire week. I don't believe there can be any, very much hope left,"  a tearful Kiirsi Hellewell, Powell's best friend, told ABC News. "I'm trying to stay busy and not think about it. But I don't see how there's any way she can still be alive." ...

Joshua Powell told police that he last saw his wife around 12:30 a.m. before he and the boys left for their trip and that she didn't go along because she was feeling sick.

Yet Hellewell said she talked to Susan Powell on Sunday and she wasn't sick.
  
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/susan-powell-missing-utah-mom-missing-week/story?id=9326774


KIIRSI HELLEWELL - DECEMBER 15, 2009

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Is Missing Woman`s Husband Stonewalling?
Aired December 15, 2009 - 19:00:00   ET


HELLEWELL: It`s absolutely unexplainable. I cannot understand it, and I know everybody is having a hard time believing it. I am myself having a hard time believing it, even though I`m Josh`s friend and I want to stand by him.

He has been known to I know go camping. And they always do sleep in their van. I don`t think they have a tent. They have gone camping three or four times this summer, and it has been a spur of the moment thing, but always on a Saturday morning, never at night, and never in the winter. So I cannot understand that.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0912/15/ijvm.01.html
 

KIIRSI HELLEWELL - DECEMBER 24, 2009
  
Susan Powell's best friend says recent reports could be damaging to investigation
Last Update: 12/24/2009 8:11 am

  
She told us she hopes the focus stays on bringing Susan back home to her two children because she says Susan's oldest son is starting to miss his mommy. Hellewell says, “I know that he doesn't understand why she's gone, somebody whose always been there for him, for every step of his life.”
  
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Susan-Powells-best-friend-says-recent-reports/MBlD-1qZiU6rVNfZLj874A.cspx


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on January 07, 2010, 01:10:48 AM
This space is for a post that was written and deleted.



Good night to all who support Susan and her family and friends.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 07, 2010, 01:14:29 AM
Mere, I too have such a space, but deleted as well.


Good night, sweet dreams.  May tomorrow be a day filled with justice.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 07, 2010, 06:59:05 AM
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 1/06 11:30 pm

Neighbor confronts Josh Powell's brother
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Josh Powell returned to Utah Wednesday.  He is the husband of Susan Powell who has been missing for a month.  His plans are unknown, but some in the neighborhood believe that he will move out of the family home.
 
One of those neighbors, Tim Petersen,  paid a visit to the Powell house Wednesday afternoon to take a playset out of the backyard.  He says the playset was a gift to Susan and the two young boys.  Since they would no longer be using it, he said he wanted to give it to someone else in the neighborhood that could use it.
 
Peterson said Josh Powell had given permission to remove the playset, but when his truck started having trouble in the deep snow in the back and side yards, Powell's younger brother told him to get out. 

A short argument followed and finally, Peterson said he told the brother, "This whole thing was for Susan and the kids to enjoy.  Now Susan's gone.  I said, 'Did you happen to notice that Susan's gone?  -- Because I don't see you guys doing anything about it.  Susan's gone.'  And he just gave me a blank look kind of like his brother would."
 
Josh Powell was apparently the last person to see Susan.  He has said that he left her at home around midnight, December 6th, to take their two and four year old boys camping.  That camping trip coincided with the arrival of a major winter storm in Utah.
 
 http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Neighbor-confronts-Josh-Powells-brother/Hzplnw_MQUq55Sb0q7MBOQ.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 08:19:02 AM
I think Josh's plans to move out of state tell it all - He KNOWS Susan is NOT COMING BACK.

Why else would the husband of a missing wife leave the only home in the State she could come back to?  Within a month of her going missing, no less.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Isn't there a term for that?

Consciousness of Guilt.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 07, 2010, 08:43:49 AM
BINGO !!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 09:03:12 AM
I hope LE hauls his ass in today.  I hope they charge him with Obstruction at the very least - and hold him until the forensics come back - and then most likely they can charge him with murder.  Cuz he just ain't that smart, and I'm quite confident forensics will tell the story.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 07, 2010, 09:52:51 AM
I hope LE hauls his ass in today.  I hope they charge him with Obstruction at the very least - and hold him until the forensics come back - and then most likely they can charge him with murder.  Cuz he just ain't that smart, and I'm quite confident forensics will tell the story.
I've been figuring as soon as forensics come back, he will be hauled in. Okay, so he lost his job and has no income in Utah, what income does he have in Washington, just living with his daddy?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 07, 2010, 10:15:35 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582388,00.html?test=latestnews

Husband of Missing Utah Mom Reportedly Selling House, Moving

Thursday , January 07, 2010

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The husband of missing Utah mom Susan Powell is reportedly planning to sell his house and relocate his children to Washington, Fox13Now.com reported.

Joshua Powell is the only person police are calling of interest in his wife's disappearance. Susan Powell’s family said he is planning to sell the house after spending the holidays with his family in Washington state, Fox13 reported.

Powell was reportedly spotted pulling out of his Utah driveway at 3 p.m. local time Wednesday.

Tim Peterson, Susan Powell’s friend, knocked on the front door of the Powell house and shouted out for Joshua Powell. He was at the house to take back a playground set he had given to the Powell family, Fox13 reported.

"He doesn't want to talk about his wife, and you know, the whole world wants to know where his wife is," Peterson said, Fox13 reported. "And, uh, ask him, because you know, in my opinion, only he and God knows."

Utah police have said that Joshua Powell has not been cooperating with them throughout the investigation, Fox13 reported.

Powell, 28, was last seen on Dec. 7, when her husband says he left their suburban home in West Valley City at about 12:30 a.m. to take their two boys, ages 2 and 4, camping in freezing conditions. Police have named her husband as a "person of interest" in their investigation.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on January 07, 2010, 11:54:31 AM
I wonder how Josh can sell the house without Susan...unless he is sole owner of
the home.

Perhaps his thought is to just turn the house over to the bank/mortgage company
and walk away.

I wish we knew if there was an attorney representing Susan.

Good Morning Monkeys.... 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 02:30:31 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9261687

(video at link)


Josh Powell prepares to leave Utah for good
January 7th, 2010 @ 12:00pm
By Shara Park

WEST VALLEY CITY -- After spending weeks in Washington with his family, the husband of Susan Powell returned to Utah to pack up and move out of the state for good.

West Valley City police say Powell has the right to move out of the state because he is not a suspect in his wife's disappearance.

"Legally he has that freedom of movement," said Capt. Tom McLachlan with the West Valley City Police Department.

Friends and neighbors who have been searching for Susan Powell say her husband's decision to leave the home where she was last seen is frustrating. Neighbors say Josh's decision to move to Washington is a little unexpected.
Susan Powell has been missing for a month

Police say the move doesn't really affect their investigation, because he's been uncooperative the whole time.

"Whether or not he's up there talking to us or down here not talking to us, it really doesn't make that much difference," McLachlan says.

It's been exactly one month since the disappearance of 28-year-old Susan Powell and police say they still have yet to formally talk to the one person who saw her last.

"We would love to talk to Joshua and we would love to verify what he has initially told us, but he has removed himself from our ability to do that," says McLachlan.

(http://www.ksl.com/emedia/slc/1692/169246/16924655.jpg?filter=ksl/img200)
Josh Powell's brother helped Powell move things out of the West Valley City home he shared with Susan

Josh Powell has been called the only person of interest in his wife's disappearance, but police say that doesn't mean he is required to stay in Utah. Close to three weeks ago he took his two boys to Washington state to stay with his dad for the holidays, but has now decided to make that permanent.

"I was really surprised because that's his wife," says neighbor Betty Trujillo.

Trujillo doesn't agree with Josh's decision to move. As one who has been searching for Susan, she feels he should be doing the same.

"You would think he would be out there searching for her and waiting for her to come home," Trujillo says. "If anything you're going to be there for her and with him leaving that's surprising to me."

Trujillo watched as Josh returned to his West Valley City home Wednesday. She says he and his brother pulled into his garage and shut the door. She says his brother finally emerged from the house later that afternoon, when Tim Peterson showed up to remove a swing set from the backyard.

"He's not looking for his wife. That much I know," Peterson told KSL Wednesday. "I just want to make sure I get my playground, OK, so I can give it to someone else in the ward."

Peterson did not get the swing set back. Powell's brother called police and reported he was trespassing.

Josh's presence back in the neighborhood is another reminder to neighbors that Susan is still out there. Trujillo says even though it's been a month, her disappearance is still fresh in her mind.

"To me it does, I think it's going to be until we find her," she says.

Police say that the recent media blitz to help find Susan has resulted in dozens of call. They wouldn't say whether or not any of them were credible leads into her disappearance, but they did say they still have several tips to follow up on.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Blink34 on January 07, 2010, 02:32:47 PM
Blink

I am a huge fan of your indepth research but we will have to agree to respectfully disagree on this issue.

The media blitz encourages others to be on the lookout for a "live" Susan Powell and ... in my opinion ... this is a distraction from all the red flags which direct suspicion on Josh Powell.

From my perspective ... the cause of justice for this young Mom is being deterred if the focus is not on her husband as well as all aspects encompassing his van and the rental vehicle.

In my opinion ... tips generated from sightings of either of these vehicle that Josh was driving in that crucial time is where it is at.  Why are authorities withholding discriptions from the public?

Susan has been missing for one month and ... nothing.  Something is not right.

IMO 

Janet 

I was not disagreeing with you that Josh needs to be the focus, and the cars and his activities. We concur 100%, in fact I also agree with some of the issues you remarked about LE.

What I was trying to say was that although on the surface it looks like maybe people are putting out a blitz for a "live Susan", any leads developed will be potentially helpful.  If I am being honest, do I think that is the best angle? No.

I specifically did not post my article on that site because it asked for nothing speculatory, and I do respect that from the friends and family of a missing loved one. I apologize if my oversensitivity to the friends/family got to me. I just know that what they are saying and feeling is something very natural for the situation.

The investigation, is a separate matter. I sincerely hope this PD has asked for help in this case.

I also sincerely hope a guardian ad litem is requested by Susan's parents, pronto.

B


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 02:35:52 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 07, 2010, 02:49:22 PM

Peterson said his wife asked Joshua Powell about Susan's whereabouts and Powell replied "Well, it's not like I stabbed her."  ::MonkeyEek:: This guy is got to be one of the biggest pieces of work that I have seen in awhile. He can't even muster up a tiny bit of interest in his missing wife, not even bothering to put on some performance.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 02:50:09 PM
Thanks cece

"Peterson said his wife asked Joshua Powell about Susan's whereabouts and Powell replied "Well, it's not like I stabbed her."

 ::MonkeyEek::

What an odd thing to offer up at that time...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 07, 2010, 03:04:52 PM
Mark Klaas on Nancy Grace last night....  ::CowboySmiley::

KLAAS: Well, I think that he`s an irresponsible, immature little man that needs a mother more than he needed a wife. She is the one that was carrying the weight in this relationship. I have to commend her friends and family for the incredible work they`ve done on the Internet campaign to bring to the attention millions and millions of people via Facebook, twitter and YouTube.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/06/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 03:10:58 PM
I agree NoRose & Jen.  Very strange comment to make when your wife is missing.  It sounds like something Drew Peterson would say.

I'm so frustrated that he has not been classified as a "suspect".  I certainly look forward to the results of the evidence coming back.  And I really worry about the two little boys.  The father seems so unstable.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 03:20:01 PM
Sorry if this is a repeat:

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown Commets on Missing Utah Woman, Susan Powell, Husband Questioned

http://www.youtube.com/v/9qhSqt1QA4o&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&border=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 07, 2010, 03:20:11 PM
Yep....he'll be filing for divorce next :roll:


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 03:26:28 PM
Josh Powell Moving From Utah Utah News, KUTV, 2News, Utah Community.flv

http://www.youtube.com/v/K25lj-kYmEA&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&border=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 03:38:43 PM
I agree NoRose & Jen.  Very strange comment to make when your wife is missing.  It sounds like something Drew Peterson would say.

I'm so frustrated that he has not been classified as a "suspect".  I certainly look forward to the results of the evidence coming back.  And I really worry about the two little boys.  The father seems so unstable.

What did they say on a forensics return?  4 - 8 weeks?  It's been 4....

I do hope they scoured what those kids were wearing from their "camping" trip - and also any blankets/sleeping bags they had.

If they went out into the sand dunes like I'm thinking is more and more likely - there is no way Josh could have gotten all the sand out of the kids clothing and bedding.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 07, 2010, 03:56:50 PM
Blink

I am a huge fan of your indepth research but we will have to agree to respectfully disagree on this issue.

The media blitz encourages others to be on the lookout for a "live" Susan Powell and ... in my opinion ... this is a distraction from all the red flags which direct suspicion on Josh Powell.

From my perspective ... the cause of justice for this young Mom is being deterred if the focus is not on her husband as well as all aspects encompassing his van and the rental vehicle.

In my opinion ... tips generated from sightings of either of these vehicle that Josh was driving in that crucial time is where it is at.  Why are authorities withholding discriptions from the public?

Susan has been missing for one month and ... nothing.  Something is not right.

IMO  

Janet  

I was not disagreeing with you that Josh needs to be the focus, and the cars and his activities. We concur 100%, in fact I also agree with some of the issues you remarked about LE.

What I was trying to say was that although on the surface it looks like maybe people are putting out a blitz for a "live Susan", any leads developed will be potentially helpful.  If I am being honest, do I think that is the best angle? No.

I specifically did not post my article on that site because it asked for nothing speculatory, and I do respect that from the friends and family of a missing loved one. I apologize if my oversensitivity to the friends/family got to me. I just know that what they are saying and feeling is something very natural for the situation.

The investigation, is a separate matter. I sincerely hope this PD has asked for help in this case.

I also sincerely hope a guardian ad litem is requested by Susan's parents, pronto.

B

Thanks for the response Blink.

Regarding guardianship.  I agree but ... there is so much to consider.

I do believe that Charles Cox's words to the media upholding his SIL as a "super" father may come back to haunt him.

Also ... the relationship of Susan's parents with their grandsons would be in the balance if the request for guardianship was denied.  Currently ... Josh is affording visitation to the grandparents.

Is CPS currently involved?  If not ... I would assume that the "powers that be" do not have a concern over Josh's ability to parent.

Janet

+++++++

Susan Powell Reportedly Made Plans to Leave Husband 1 Year Ago, Feared Kidnapping
Sunday, December 27, 2009


Cox and Joshua Powell have barely spoken since Susan Powell was reported missing, although Cox has defended Joshua Powell as a good father.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580882,00.html


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 04:13:59 PM
FYI in case anyone is interested.

On Dec 6/7 this (Knolls OHV Park) is likely one of only 2 places remotely nearby where the ground wouldn't have been frozen.

The other is Little Sahara, but while both Parks are State operated, Little Sahara has a guard shack for entry, and Knolls does not (honor system).

http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/utah_09597/ride_976b.htm

Watch the video at that link, to understand what I mean about the ground being easy to dig in - year round.

Here is the weather report for Knolls - note the amount of precipitation for the entire month of December 2009 (there would have been no snow)

http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/outdoors/pastweather/US1006:13?when=-7


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 05:54:17 PM
I wonder how Josh can sell the house without Susan...unless he is sole owner of
the home.

Perhaps his thought is to just turn the house over to the bank/mortgage company
and walk away.

I wish we knew if there was an attorney representing Susan.

Good Morning Monkeys.... 

They own the house jointly - so he'd either have to declare Susan deceased - or just walk away from it like you stated.

If he's just walking away from it, then why not stay until the Bank boots him out?  Considering the reason he gave for leaving is that he lost his job and cannot afford the mortgage - well, stay anyway!  At least give the appearance you have hope your wife will come back to her home!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

    14-35-307-027-0000Parcel

POWELL, JOSH & SUSAN; JT Owner
xxxx x xxxxx  CIR  Address
0.26Total Acreage
  - Tax Class Id
103 - SNGL FAM RESProperty Type
29Tax District
 % Exempt
 Exempt Type
  Value History 
  Record Land Value  Building Value  Market Value  Tax Rate 
2009   $ 74,100  $ 89,100  $ 163,200  .0140050
2008 1 $ 87,800 $ 103,500 $ 191,300 .0122170
2007 1 $ 56,700 $ 142,400 $ 199,100 .0124730
  90 $ 56,700 $ 127,200 $ 183,900 
2006 1 $ 50,500 $ 129,900 $ 180,400 .0139840
  90 $ 50,500 $ 124,500 $ 175,000 
2005 1 $ 41,500 $ 102,400 $ 143,900 .0141250
2004 1 $ 37,100 $ 112,200 $ 149,300 .0145950
  90 $ 37,100 $ 98,900 $ 136,000 


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 06:35:53 PM
KSL News right now reporting:

Body Found-

West of Wendover near/in Pilor Valley
Found right next to the road (I-80)

The only description they have right now is that the body is 5'5" - 5'6" tall

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 06:38:14 PM
Thanks for the info Jen.  Very interesting & helpful.


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705356889/Josh-Powell-keeps-low-profile.html


Josh Powell keeps low profile

Friends say Web blitz was big success

WEST VALLEY CITY — Josh Powell did his best to stay out of the public eye again Thursday as he reportedly prepared for his move back to Washington.

Friends and neighbors say the husband of Susan Powell, missing for over a month, is selling his house and moving back to his hometown of Puyallup, Wash. Josh and his two sons, ages 2 and 4, have reportedly been staying with relatives in Washington since Christmas.

Kiirsi Hellewell, a close friend of Susan's, said Josh has asked his LDS ward to help him move on Saturday. Hellewell said before Susan disappeared, Josh had started attending their ward again and has reportedly been attending church in Washington.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since Dec. 7. Josh told police he went camping in a remote area of Tooele County about 12:30 a.m. that day with his two boys. When he returned, his wife was gone.

Since then, police say Josh Powell has been uncooperative in answering their questions. That, combined with a pair of odd media interviews and reports of unusual behavior, have raised public speculation and criticism of Josh. Police have called him a person of interest in the case. Powell lost his job soon after his wife disappeared and questions about his behavior started being raised.


Josh Powell keeps low profile

Friends say Web blitz was big success

By Pat Reavy

Deseret News
Published: Thursday, Jan. 7, 2010 4:03 p.m. MST
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WEST VALLEY CITY — Josh Powell did his best to stay out of the public eye again Thursday as he reportedly prepared for his move back to Washington.

Friends and neighbors say the husband of Susan Powell, missing for over a month, is selling his house and moving back to his hometown of Puyallup, Wash. Josh and his two sons, ages 2 and 4, have reportedly been staying with relatives in Washington since Christmas.

Kiirsi Hellewell, a close friend of Susan's, said Josh has asked his LDS ward to help him move on Saturday. Hellewell said before Susan disappeared, Josh had started attending their ward again and has reportedly been attending church in Washington.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since Dec. 7. Josh told police he went camping in a remote area of Tooele County about 12:30 a.m. that day with his two boys. When he returned, his wife was gone.

Since then, police say Josh Powell has been uncooperative in answering their questions. That, combined with a pair of odd media interviews and reports of unusual behavior, have raised public speculation and criticism of Josh. Police have called him a person of interest in the case. Powell lost his job soon after his wife disappeared and questions about his behavior started being raised.
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Also Thursday, some neighbors were still talking about a dispute over a swing set in the Powell's backyard that ended with police being called to the Powell house Wednesday afternoon.

The Powells have a playground set in their backyard, 6254 W. Sarah Circle. The man who built that swing set and placed it in the yard so his kids and Josh's kids could use it claimed the swing set was his, said West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan.

But after a pickup truck was backed up to the Powell's yard Wednesday and became stuck in the snow, a dispute over ownership of the playground equipment started between the neighbor and Michael Powell, Josh's brother who drove to Utah with him from Washington to help him move. McLachlan said Michael Powell reportedly changed his mind and thought moving the swing set would become too much of a problem.

Although he wouldn't classify it as an argument, McLachlan said Michael Powell "was nervous about all the media" sitting out front watching and called police.

An officer showed up to keep the peace, but did not arrest anyone. Because of the dispute over who owned the property, the group was ordered to keep the playground where it was, McLachlan said.

Josh Powell was not seen by the responding officer, he said. McLachlan said because he is not a suspect, Powell is free to leave the state whenever he wants.

Meanwhile, friends and families who helped launch a 72-hour social media blitz over such networks as Facebook and Twitter were extremely pleased Thursday with the results,

Approximately 22,000 people friended the "Friends and Family of Susan Powell" Facebook page during that three-day period.

"That 22,000 means 44,000 new eyes and ears," said Shelby Gifford, a friend of Susan Powell and spokeswoman for her family in Washington, "Who knows what that might end up being."

Gifford believed they had received Facebook responses from every continent. Messages were received over the past three days from Japan, Australia, Africa and Mexico, she said.

"(The social media blitz) went extremely well. Way beyond our expectations," Hellewell said. "The main point beside keeping her name and face in the news was hoping someone would remember something."

Both Hellewell and Gifford said the social media campaign resulted in some good new tips about the case that police were now following up.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Elaine on January 07, 2010, 06:42:59 PM
KSL News right now reporting:

Body Found-

West of Wendover near/in Pilor Valley
Found right next to the road (I-80)

The only description they have right now is that the body is 5'5" - 5'6" tall

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Wow. Dear God, I wonder if it is her?.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 06:43:39 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-01-07-utah-missing-woman-husband_N.htm

Missing Utah woman's husband appears to be moving

Joshua Powell's attorney, Scott Williams, will only say that the Salt Lake City area doesn't provide his client with the financial and social support his family needs.

snipped.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 06:44:16 PM
KSL News right now reporting:

Body Found-

West of Wendover near/in Pilor Valley
Found right next to the road (I-80)

The only description they have right now is that the body is 5'5" - 5'6" tall

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

ETA:  Wrapped in black plastic


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 06:46:27 PM
KSL News right now reporting:

Body Found-

West of Wendover near/in Pilor Valley
Found right next to the road (I-80)

The only description they have right now is that the body is 5'5" - 5'6" tall

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Wow. Dear God, I wonder if it is her?.

Well - it's definitely the direction he claimed to have gone "camping" - albeit several miles further west.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 06:46:45 PM
http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Body-found-west-of-Wendover/xS_Vf9ff4EWgoI-KJrmEog.cspx

WEST WENDOVER, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Police confirm that a body has been found in the desert west of Wendover wrapped in duct tape and plastic.

There was no other description of the body or what gender it may be.

There was no indication that the body could be Susan Powell, either.

The body was found in Pilot Valley, about 15 miles from the Utah border near Interstate 80.

Stay tuned to ABC 4 News and ABC4.com for more on this story.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Elaine on January 07, 2010, 06:49:49 PM
KSL News right now reporting:

Body Found-

West of Wendover near/in Pilor Valley
Found right next to the road (I-80)

The only description they have right now is that the body is 5'5" - 5'6" tall

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Wow. Dear God, I wonder if it is her?.

Well - it's definitely the direction he claimed to have gone "camping" - albeit several miles further west.


Thank you Jen.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 07, 2010, 06:52:22 PM
http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Body-found-west-of-Wendover/xS_Vf9ff4EWgoI-KJrmEog.cspx

WEST WENDOVER, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Police confirm that a body has been found in the desert west of Wendover wrapped in duct tape and plastic.

There was no other description of the body or what gender it may be.

There was no indication that the body could be Susan Powell, either.

The body was found in Pilot Valley, about 15 miles from the Utah border near Interstate 80.

Stay tuned to ABC 4 News and ABC4.com for more on this story.
Dear Lord, my heart sunk, when I saw duct tape. My thoughts and prayers to this person's loved ones.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 06:52:30 PM
http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Body-found-west-of-Wendover/xS_Vf9ff4EWgoI-KJrmEog.cspx

WEST WENDOVER, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Police confirm that a body has been found in the desert west of Wendover wrapped in duct tape and plastic.

There was no other description of the body or what gender it may be.

There was no indication that the body could be Susan Powell, either.

The body was found in Pilot Valley, about 15 miles from the Utah border near Interstate 80.

Stay tuned to ABC 4 News and ABC4.com for more on this story.

Thanks cece

KSL said nothing about the duct tape



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on January 07, 2010, 06:54:39 PM
If the body was found right next to the road, then there wasn't much effort to conceal it, whether this is Susan Powell or not. She's been gone a month and a day now.  I wonder if the intention was to return and hide the body in a more concealed space. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on January 07, 2010, 06:54:42 PM
Thank you Jen.....

Hope there are prints on that tape.

Prayers for the family of the person found.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 06:55:13 PM
KSL News right now reporting:

Body Found-

West of Wendover near/in Pilor Valley
Found right next to the road (I-80)

The only description they have right now is that the body is 5'5" - 5'6" tall

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Wow. Dear God, I wonder if it is her?.

Well - it's definitely the direction he claimed to have gone "camping" - albeit several miles further west.


Thank you Jen.

YW Elaine.

Someone's family is going to be devastated - if not Susan's, then some other poor family.

I hope like he!! they've detained Josh now that he's back in the State.  You know LE knows more about this body than we do at this point.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on January 07, 2010, 06:56:21 PM
KSL News right now reporting:

Body Found-

West of Wendover near/in Pilor Valley
Found right next to the road (I-80)

The only description they have right now is that the body is 5'5" - 5'6" tall

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Wow. Dear God, I wonder if it is her?.

Well - it's definitely the direction he claimed to have gone "camping" - albeit several miles further west.


Thank you Jen.

YW Elaine.

Someone's family is going to be devastated - if not Susan's, then some other poor family.

I hope like he!! they've detained Josh now that he's back in the State.  You know LE knows more about this body than we do at this point.

BBM

Those were my first thoughts, Jen.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 06:58:21 PM
If the body was found right next to the road, then there wasn't much effort to conceal it, whether this is Susan Powell or not. She's been gone a month and a day now.  I wonder if the intention was to return and hide the body in a more concealed space. 

No info yet on if the body was buried, or partially buried.  But you're right Muffy - definite lack of effort in concealement.

Perhaps that is what Josh was doing in that rental car?  Trying to get back to the disposal site to move it/conceal it better?

But mabey had no luck due to traffic/witnesses?

Wendover is *I think* just over 100 miles from the Salt Lake valley - so it surely could account for at least 200 of the "several hundred" miles he put on that rental.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 06:59:50 PM
Thank you Jen.....

Hope there are prints on that tape.

Prayers for the family of the person found.

me too Mere!

Considering the reported condition of his hands - Josh was not wearing gloves for this.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 07, 2010, 07:00:24 PM
If the body was found right next to the road, then there wasn't much effort to conceal it, whether this is Susan Powell or not. She's been gone a month and a day now.  I wonder if the intention was to return and hide the body in a more concealed space. 

No info yet on if the body was buried, or partially buried.  But you're right Muffy - definite lack of effort in concealement.

Perhaps that is what Josh was doing in that rental car?  Trying to get back to the disposal site to move it/conceal it better?

But mabey had no luck due to traffic/witnesses?

Wendover is *I think* just over 100 miles from the Salt Lake valley - so it surely could account for at least 200 of the "several hundred" miles he put on that rental.
Thanks for that info, he could have also gone back but couldn't find the exact spot either.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 07:01:26 PM


Thanks cece

KSL said nothing about the duct tape



You're welcome Jen.  Even if it isn't Susan, someone else is missing a loved one and will face the devastating news.  Prayers to their family.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 07:05:04 PM

The body was found in Pilot Valley, about 15 miles from the Utah border near Interstate 80.

snipped.

http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Body-found-west-of-Wendover/xS_Vf9ff4EWgoI-KJrmEog.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 07:10:29 PM
If the body was found right next to the road, then there wasn't much effort to conceal it, whether this is Susan Powell or not. She's been gone a month and a day now.  I wonder if the intention was to return and hide the body in a more concealed space. 

No info yet on if the body was buried, or partially buried.  But you're right Muffy - definite lack of effort in concealement.

Perhaps that is what Josh was doing in that rental car?  Trying to get back to the disposal site to move it/conceal it better?

But mabey had no luck due to traffic/witnesses?

Wendover is *I think* just over 100 miles from the Salt Lake valley - so it surely could account for at least 200 of the "several hundred" miles he put on that rental.
Thanks for that info, he could have also gone back but couldn't find the exact spot either.

that's certainly a possibility nrcg!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 07:11:49 PM

The body was found in Pilot Valley, about 15 miles from the Utah border near Interstate 80.

snipped.

http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Body-found-west-of-Wendover/xS_Vf9ff4EWgoI-KJrmEog.cspx

that's just barely outside of (West) the town of Wendover, NV.

Wendover splits the state line between UT/NV


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 07, 2010, 07:14:58 PM
Body location.  Almost a straight drive down US 93, approximately 2 hours.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/body2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Body1.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: joesamas mama on January 07, 2010, 07:16:23 PM
I don't know anything about Utah/Nevada, could someone tell me where this body was found, was it cold and snowy? I have only been to SLC in Utah and Reno and Las Vegas in Nevada. I pray that it was cold and whomever they found they will be able to find a cause of death due to it being so cold. TIA JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 07, 2010, 07:16:58 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-body-found-wrapped-plastic,0,4937373.story

BREAKING NEWS: Suspected Body Found Near West Wendover

FOX 13 News

5:02 PM MST, January 7, 2010
BREAKING NEWS: Suspected Body Found Near West Wendover
PILOT VALLEY, Nevada - Police tell FOX 13 that a suspected body was found by detectives from the Elko County Sheriff's Office in Pilot Valley, Nevada, just west of West Wendover. The suspected body was found wrapped in plastic and has not yet been opened by police.

Watch FOX 13 News and stay with fox13now.com for the latest developments on this story.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 07:18:11 PM
Thank you Jen & Klaas.  It's so helpful to have a visual.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 07, 2010, 07:18:11 PM
According to the missing poster Susan is 5' 4" and 130 lbs


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: joesamas mama on January 07, 2010, 07:18:25 PM
Body location.  Almost a straight drive down US 93, approximately 2 hours.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/body2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Body1.jpg)
Thank you for the map Klaas. Please disregard my dumb question I posted earlier about the weather in that part of the state. TIA JSM


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 07:20:11 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705356909/Body-found-near-Utah-Nevada-border.html

WEST VALLEY CITY — Detectives from the Elko County, Nev. Sheriff's Office are investigating the discovery of a body found wrapped in plastic in a remote area about two hours outside of Elko, near West Wendover, Utah.

The body was discovered about noon Thursday in the Pilot Valley area, said Elko Undersheriff Doug Gailey. The body is a person between 5 feet 4 inches to 5 feet 6 inches, he said. Gailey had no information Thursday afternoon as to the possible age or sex of the victim or how long the body had been there.

The body was found in an area with poor cell phone reception and Gailey, as of 4:30 p.m., was waiting for updates from his investigators, he said.

West Valley police say they were aware of the discovery and monitoring the situation.

"We know about it, but all we know is what's on the news," said West Valley Assistant Police Chief Craig Black. "We're waiting to hear if we need to get further involved."

Susan Powell, a West Valley mother of two, has been missing for over a month. Her husband, Josh Powell, has been labeled a person of interest in Powell's disappearance. He told police he went camping in rural Tooele County early on the morning of Susan's disappearance. He later rented a car after police confiscated his for a day to process it for possible evidence, and reportedly put several hundred miles on it.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 07, 2010, 07:25:51 PM
Thank-you for the updates and maps, are there any other people around that area that might fit the height of the body found?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Green Eyes on January 07, 2010, 07:31:58 PM
Did I read the report right that the body was found by detectives? That says they knew what and who they were looking for. IMO  Prayers to family whom ever this is.  It's just sad.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 07:33:49 PM
I don't know anything about Utah/Nevada, could someone tell me where this body was found, was it cold and snowy? I have only been to SLC in Utah and Reno and Las Vegas in Nevada. I pray that it was cold and whomever they found they will be able to find a cause of death due to it being so cold. TIA JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

If there was ANY snow there at all, I would be surprised.  The area i was focused on is approx 30 miles back to the East toward Salt Lake, and had gotten a total of .16" of precipitation for the entire month of December.

So out where this body is, there should be no snow, and the ground should not be frozen (or at least, not frozen very hard).


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 07:33:59 PM
Body is of a Hispanic male per live report:

http://www.fox13now.com/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 07:36:18 PM
Thank-you for the updates and maps, are there any other people around that area that might fit the height of the body found?

None that I've heard of.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 07, 2010, 07:36:38 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 07:41:03 PM
Body is of a Hispanic male per live report:

http://www.fox13now.com/

thanks cece - were they positive on that?

I only ask because of your next post from the tribune?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 07:44:26 PM
Body is of a Hispanic male per live report:

http://www.fox13now.com/

thanks cece - were they positive on that?

I only ask because of your next post from the tribune?

I caught the tail end of Fox News, an officer of Elko, NV stated the body is "believed to be that of an hispanic male".

Apparently there are communication issues between the recovery site and the police HQ.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 07:45:26 PM
New news reports begin in 15 minutes.  I'll watch and report back.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 07, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
The Fox 13 site keeps locking me up, but from what I could see they hadn't opened the bag yet ...as of 9 minutes ago.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tibrogargan on January 07, 2010, 07:46:02 PM
Jen, thank you for your descriptions and information on the area surrounding Susan's home and the likely "camping" areas visited by that loser.

Although I often joke about the next stop south of where I live being Antarctica, we really have no concept here of being ice or snowbound.  We do get snow on our highland mountains and some ice in sheltered areas but nothing as extreme as the northern hemisphere.  I appreciate your contributions.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 07, 2010, 07:46:24 PM
thanks


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on January 07, 2010, 07:46:29 PM
New news reports begin in 15 minutes.  I'll watch and report back.

Thanks Jen.  And thank you to all of you that have brought updates and provided maps. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 07, 2010, 07:47:02 PM
I don't know anything about Utah/Nevada, could someone tell me where this body was found, was it cold and snowy? I have only been to SLC in Utah and Reno and Las Vegas in Nevada. I pray that it was cold and whomever they found they will be able to find a cause of death due to it being so cold. TIA JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

Good point.  Yes it's been very cold in that area.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 07, 2010, 07:48:17 PM
Body is Hispanic male


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 07, 2010, 07:48:38 PM
Body found west of Wendover is Hispanic male
January 7th, 2010 @ 5:43pm
ELKO COUNTY, Nev. -- The Elko County Sheriff's Office is investigating the site where a body was found Thursday in the Nevada desert. The the body is that of a Hispanic male.

The body was found around noon in the Pilot Valley area on the Utah-Nevada border. That's about 12 miles west of West Wendover.

"We received a report that someone had a body wrapped in plastic in the Pilot Valley area," said Elko County Undersheriff Doug Gailey.

On Friday evening, Gailey confirmed that the body inside the plastic bag is a male.

Gailey also said the area is remote and there are no missing persons in Elko County.

We have Chopper Five on the way and we'll bring you more as this story develops.

Stay with KSL.com, KSL-TV and KSL Newsradio 102.7 FM/1160 AM for the latest updates.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9265156&autostart=y


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 07, 2010, 07:48:58 PM
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9265156


Body found west of Wendover is Hispanic male
January 7th, 2010 @ 5:43pm

ELKO COUNTY, Nev. -- The Elko County Sheriff's Office is investigating the site where a body was found Thursday in the Nevada desert. The the body is that of a Hispanic male.

The body was found around noon in the Pilot Valley area on the Utah-Nevada border. That's about 12 miles west of West Wendover.

"We received a report that someone had a body wrapped in plastic in the Pilot Valley area," said Elko County Undersheriff Doug Gailey.

On Friday evening, Gailey confirmed that the body inside the plastic bag is a male.

Gailey also said the area is remote and there are no missing persons in Elko County.

We have Chopper Five on the way and we'll bring you more as this story develops.

Stay with KSL.com, KSL-TV and KSL Newsradio 102.7 FM/1160 AM for the latest updates.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on January 07, 2010, 07:50:41 PM
Body is Hispanic male

Very sad.  Left dead on the side of the road.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  Prayers for him and for his family.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 07:57:51 PM
Jen, thank you for your descriptions and information on the area surrounding Susan's home and the likely "camping" areas visited by that loser.

Although I often joke about the next stop south of where I live being Antarctica, we really have no concept here of being ice or snowbound.  We do get snow on our highland mountains and some ice in sheltered areas but nothing as extreme as the northern hemisphere.  I appreciate your contributions.

YW Tib.  And good to see you!

I know it can be difficult to fathom that such a vast area can have completely frozen ground - thus limiting the possibilities of a buried disposal site this time of year.

that's why I was focusing on the West desert areas....

I found a site earlier today that states Utah Lake was completely frozen over as of Dec 18th (and temps were warming by that time after the very cold spell in the timeframe Susan went missing) - I'll get that again in the morning and post here (sorry Blink).  Thus removing a water disposal as well.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 08:02:18 PM
Channel 2 News at 6 pm

Under Sheriff Doug Gailey :  "The body appears to be that of an hispanic male, and therefore not that of Susan Powell."

My heart and thoughts go out to this poor man's family.

Apologies to all for the false alarm regarding Susan....


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 07, 2010, 08:06:47 PM
The Fox 13 site keeps locking me up, but from what I could see they hadn't opened the bag yet ...as of 9 minutes ago.



Thanks Nut!

The conflicting reports have me baffled.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: joesamas mama on January 07, 2010, 08:07:18 PM
I don't know anything about Utah/Nevada, could someone tell me where this body was found, was it cold and snowy? I have only been to SLC in Utah and Reno and Las Vegas in Nevada. I pray that it was cold and whomever they found they will be able to find a cause of death due to it being so cold. TIA JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

If there was ANY snow there at all, I would be surprised.  The area i was focused on is approx 30 miles back to the East toward Salt Lake, and had gotten a total of .16" of precipitation for the entire month of December.

So out where this body is, there should be no snow, and the ground should not be frozen (or at least, not frozen very hard).
Thanks Jen, I don't know that part of the US, so I didn't know if the body could have been covered by snow or not. Thanks again for answering my question.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 07, 2010, 08:09:32 PM
Body is of a Hispanic male per live report:

http://www.fox13now.com/
Thank-you


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: joesamas mama on January 07, 2010, 08:12:20 PM
I pray for the man they found tonight, his family and I pray for Susan and her family.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: theboyzmom on January 07, 2010, 09:09:20 PM
How sad for this person's family, and what a sad roller coaster for Susan's family. I could waterboard the SOB that she is "married" to.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 08, 2010, 01:24:45 AM
His selling stuff and home reminds me of ..again..one more time.. ::MonkeyGavel::
Scotty Perterson..

Laci Peterson disappeared from her home on December 24, 2002.

"The Modesto police did not immediately identify Peterson as a prime suspect, largely because Laci's family and friends maintained their faith in his innocence during the initial month after Laci's disappearance."

In 2005, Peterson was sentenced to death by lethal injection. He remains on death row in San Quentin State Prison while his case is on appeal to the Supreme Court of California. He maintains his innocence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson


statistics show that homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant women. And these deaths generally occur not at the hand of a stranger; they are usually the work of the person the woman loves and trusts most — the father of her child.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7068694/ns/dateline_nbc-books/

I remember his lame exuse.My pregnant wife went for a walk in the park and I took my little boat fishing.. I went to the Berkley Marina..

Then some of the old boys at the marina told us the story of how horrible the weather was that day for anyhing .. The weather was terrible and he would have no buisness catching fish on that day..

Then Scotty had a girlfriend he forgot to tell us about..

Even after all of that .. his family STILL thought he was innocent.. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Peterson was arrested by Detective Taylor Burlingame on April 18, 2003 in La Jolla, California, in the parking lot of the Torrey Pines Golf Course, where he said he was meeting his father, brother, and Zak O'Regan for a game of golf. At the time of his arrest, Peterson was in possession of the following non-golf specific items: approximately $15,000 in cash; four cell phones; multiple credit cards belonging to various members of his family; an array of camping equipment, including knives, implements for warming food, tents and tarpaulins and also a water purifier; a dozen pairs of shoes; several changes of clothing; a t-handled double-edged dagger; a MapQuest map to Frey's workplace (printed the previous day); a shovel; rope; 24 blister packs of sleeping pills; Viagra; and his brother's driver's license.[15] His hair and goatee had been dyed blond, although he claimed the lighter hair color was the result of chlorine from swimming in a friend's pool. (The pool's owner later testified that, to his knowledge, Peterson had never swum in his pool, or made use of his hot tub.) [16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson

The good news is this.. ::MonkeyBike::
On March 16, 2005, Judge Alfred A. Delucchi formally sentenced Peterson to death, calling the murder of his wife "cruel, uncaring, heartless, and callous."[37] The prescribed method of execution was lethal injection.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 08, 2010, 01:32:47 AM
So when they find this wife Susan.. She may very well be pregnant ?

And... Does this man have a girlfriend hiding in the woodwork.. ? If So.. Is SHE still alive ?

Boy all those miles on a rental car with no explanation of where he went... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Oh I just drove around.. I am not sure where I went...
GMAFB ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 08, 2010, 08:16:38 AM
Here is that info I found yesterday regarding Utah Lake having been frozen over.

Current Conditions
Information Updated:   12-18-09
Highs   40's
Lows   teen's
Day Use   OPEN
Camping   ALL CLOSED
Surface   CLOSED
Boating   OPEN
Water Temp   The marina and most of the lake is frozen over. Use Caution on Ice.
Fishing   Good
Snow Depth   none
Road Conditions   Clear

http://www.utahfishinginfo.com/utahlakes/utahlake.php

And that was 11 days after Susan disappeared, with much higher temps.  The week of her disappearance, the lows were between 4 - 10 degrees, and the highs were in the teens.

So by the time of this report, the temps had warmed, and the lake was still frozen from the week before (and prior to that).


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 08, 2010, 08:24:59 AM
Many prayers to the family of the man found.  Prayers continue too for the families and friends of Susan Powell.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 10:28:35 AM
Good morning Monkeys.  Hope everyone is well & keeping warm today.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Josh-Powell-packing-Cox-family-relieved-body/dfebS__yf0qzZqEncEh9Iw.cspx


Josh Powell packing; Cox family relieved body found in desert wasn't Susan


(video at link)

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 NEWS) - Josh Powell was busy packing up his home Thursday while Susan's family and friends got word a body was discovered about 40 miles west of Wendover wrapped in plastic and duct taped. They waited anxiously for an identity. To their relief it wasn't Susan.

The body discovered in a remote area west of Wendover is a hispanic male. The body is a person between 5 feet 4 inches and 5 feet 6 inches tall . Police can't confirm how he died or how long he's been there.

When news broke Susan's family and say they experienced a wide range of emotions. Friend Kiirsi Hellewell immediately broke into tears fearing the worst. Others said they were upset but we hoping for some closure and answers in Susan's disappearance.

Cox family spokesperson Shelby Gifford says Susan's parents are very relieved it wasn't He. Gifford says, "after everything that's gone on their hearts are pretty tender".

Chuck Cox posted on the Friends and Family of Susan Powell's Facebook page that, "The WVPD is doing a great job. The Press is as anxious as we are to have Susan found, unfortunately due to time lines, competition, and the needs of those investigating to build a legal case, the press is forced to speculate. We want to keep this page focused on finding Susan. We appreciate all of your prayers and... support. I will be sure that any verified news is posted here as soon as possible for all of you wonderful friends".

When it comes to friends Kiirsi Hellewell says Josh Powell doesn't feel like he has many at this point, he doesn't have a job and he said that's why he wants to sell the home and move to Washington. Hellewell said, "My husband will be helping him and we'll do anything we can to help him because he's still our friend, nothings been proven. He's still our friend".

Others are saying they aren't willing to help based off of Josh's behavior and refusal to cooperate with police. Still some are trying to stay neutral. Betty Trujillo lives next door and says she wishes Josh would stay and help. Trujillo said, "I don't know how I feel, I'm praying for the both of them. I'm praying she'll be found and come back and I'm praying for him come up with the truth.

Police are also hoping to get the truth from Josh. They say the 72-hour media blitz generated some positive leads. They are still asking Josh to come in and cooperate and answer additional questions. West Valley Police are saying that there will be some resolution to the case soon.

ABC 4 saw people packing things up at the Powell home last night. The moving truck is expected to arrive tomorrow. The invitation has gone out the Church member to help but friends say it will be interesting to see who actually show's up.

Keep it right on ABC 4 News for all the latest news in the search for Susan.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 10:32:08 AM
http://www.theolympian.com/southsound/story/1094676.html

Missing woman's family to move
MYSTERY: Husband plans move to state; police say he's uncooperative

BY MELINDA ROGERS AND SHEENA MCFARLAND | The Salt Lake Tribune • Published January 08, 2010


 A month after a former Puyallup woman was reported missing in Utah, her husband began packing for a permanent move to Washington.

Joshua Powell, the husband of Susan Powell, returned to Utah from Puyallup to retrieve his belongings, say friends and a spokeswoman for Susan Powell’s parents. He and the couple’s two young sons, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, had been staying with Joshua Powell’s father in Puyallup since Christmas.

Friends of the Powells have said Joshua Powell was fired from his job as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company and now plans to sell the family’s home.

Joshua Powell remains the only person of interest investigators have identified in his wife’s case. He gave police a DNA sample but has not spoken with investigators in detail about his wife’s disappearance since hiring an attorney to represent him.

Police in West Valley City, Utah, still are awaiting state crime lab reports on the DNA tests and fiber evidence taken from the Powell home.

“We are not at a standstill by any means,” police Capt. Tom McLachlan said, noting the DNA results generally take four to eight weeks to process. “At this point, with the information we’ve got and the resources we’ve got, we’re feeling the situation will be resolved.”

Last month, police took fingerprint evidence off the front door of the Powell home and collected several items, including a bedspread and a carpet cleaner, according to neighbors.

Police have confirmed they found a large wet spot in the home with fans aimed at it to dry on the day Susan Powell was reported missing.

McLachlan said police are not concerned about the possible sale of the Powell home as evidence has already been gathered. But Joshua Powell’s limited responses during police interviews have hampered the investigation, he said. “What we’ve tried to do is verify what he’s told us in the limited interviews that he’s given,” McLachlan said. “Without his cooperation, it does seem a little bit at odds. It doesn’t help move the investigation forward.”

Friends and family members of Susan Powell, including parents Chuck and Judy Cox, have detailed the couple’s financial and marital problems.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 10:37:06 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/susan-powell-husband-prepares-leave-town-amid-search/story?id=9510125


Susan Powell's Husband Prepares to Leave State Amid Search for Missing Wife
Friends, Family Incredulous That Joshua Powell Is Moving One Month After Disappearance
By LISA FLETCHER and SARAH NETTER
Jan. 8, 2010


(video at link)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 10:40:17 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705356889/Josh-Powell-keeping-a-low-profile.html


Josh Powell keeping a low profile

By Pat Reavy

Deseret News
Published: Friday, Jan. 8, 2010 12:32 a.m. MST


WEST VALLEY CITY — Josh Powell did his best to stay out of the public eye again Thursday as he reportedly prepared for his move back to Washington.

Friends and neighbors say the husband of Susan Powell, missing for over a month, is selling his house and moving back to his hometown of Puyallup, Wash. Josh and his two sons, ages 2 and 4, have reportedly been staying with relatives in Washington since Christmas.

Kiirsi Hellewell, a close friend of Susan's, said Josh has asked members of his LDS ward to help him move on Saturday. Hellewell said before Susan disappeared, Josh had started attending their ward again and has reportedly been attending church in Washington.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since Dec. 7. Josh told police he went camping in a remote area of Tooele County about 12:30 a.m. that day with his two boys. When he returned, his wife was gone. Thursday, a body wrapped in duct-taped plastic was discovered about 40 miles outside West Wendover, Nev., creating high speculation that Powell's body may have been found. Investigators determined quickly, however, the body was not Powell.

"The position they're taking is they're relieved that it's not Susan," said family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford. "And after the pain of the last month, their hearts are pretty tender."


Josh Powell keeping a low profile

By Pat Reavy

Deseret News
Published: Friday, Jan. 8, 2010 12:32 a.m. MST
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WEST VALLEY CITY — Josh Powell did his best to stay out of the public eye again Thursday as he reportedly prepared for his move back to Washington.

Friends and neighbors say the husband of Susan Powell, missing for over a month, is selling his house and moving back to his hometown of Puyallup, Wash. Josh and his two sons, ages 2 and 4, have reportedly been staying with relatives in Washington since Christmas.

Kiirsi Hellewell, a close friend of Susan's, said Josh has asked members of his LDS ward to help him move on Saturday. Hellewell said before Susan disappeared, Josh had started attending their ward again and has reportedly been attending church in Washington.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since Dec. 7. Josh told police he went camping in a remote area of Tooele County about 12:30 a.m. that day with his two boys. When he returned, his wife was gone. Thursday, a body wrapped in duct-taped plastic was discovered about 40 miles outside West Wendover, Nev., creating high speculation that Powell's body may have been found. Investigators determined quickly, however, the body was not Powell.

"The position they're taking is they're relieved that it's not Susan," said family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford. "And after the pain of the last month, their hearts are pretty tender."
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The family sent an update on the twitter page for Susan, expressing their condolences for the family of the victim, who detectives from the Elko County Sheriff's Office in Nevada said is that of a Hispanic male about 5 feet 5 inches tall. The body was discovered about noon Thursday in the Pilot Valley area, said Elko Undersheriff Doug Gailey.

Initial reports of the body led to speculation that it might be the remains of Susan Powell.

Hellewell said she was crying and shaking out of fear the body would be identified as Susan, which would have dashed any hope that she would be found alive.

"I'm pretty shaky — at the time, it was really horrendous," Hellewell said. "We are extremely relieved it's not her, but at the same time, it was like, let this be over. The waiting is the worst part."

With their hope of possibly finding Susan restored after a nerve-wracking couple of hours, Hellewell said friends and family devoted to finding her plan to work "harder than ever" by passing out more fliers and ribbons to spur efforts.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: goodnmad on January 08, 2010, 11:15:24 AM
What are you running from Josh? If you are innocent, why not stay in your home and wait for Susan to return? I tihnk we know why.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Bring Susan home. She at least deserves a proper burial.

To Josh: The MOTHER of your children deserves a proper burial.

Prayers for Susan and her family.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on January 08, 2010, 11:30:11 AM
Some screen captures for the Today Show this morning.  Jennifer Graves -Josh's sister said she is disappoint and Josh would be better off staying in Utah to support the search. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 08, 2010, 12:40:14 PM
Thanks cece and Northern Rose.

I hope that the silence from investigators implies that behind the scenes i's are being dotted and t's are being crossed just prior to the arrest of the person of interest in the disappearance of Susan Powell.

Janet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on January 08, 2010, 02:18:43 PM
Thanks cece and Northern Rose.

I hope that the silence from investigators implies that behind the scenes i's are being dotted and t's are being crossed just prior to the arrest of the person of interest in the disappearance of Susan Powell.

Janet


I'm with ya on that one!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 08, 2010, 02:33:05 PM
I cannot let this go!

 ::MonkeyMad::

Without generated tips from a public awarenes regarding the description/mages of the vehicles which Josh Powell drove in that crucial time frame ... I cannot comprehend where a search for Susan's remains would be focused.

All the red flags direct at Josh Powell dictates that the locating of Susan Powell should have been LE's primary focus in the week following her disappearance.  However ... the vehicles were not used as tools immediately following the disappearance of this 28 year old mother ... the vehicles have yet to be used as tools in a search for her remains ...

Janet



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 08, 2010, 02:35:14 PM
Thanks cece and Northern Rose.

I hope that the silence from investigators implies that behind the scenes i's are being dotted and t's are being crossed just prior to the arrest of the person of interest in the disappearance of Susan Powell.

Janet


I'm with ya on that one!

Hi Leroy.

I am off for the afternoon.

 ::MonkeyBike::

Janet
11:35 AM PT


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 02:41:52 PM
(posted yesterday on youtube):

 SusanPowellCase
January 07, 2010

Maybe someone who doesn't have a TV saw Josh Powell! There are enough Susan videos out there. Let's get this Josh Powell photo slide show spread all over the Internet!

NEW Susan Powell flier with 5 photos of Josh Powell asking "Information Wanted - Did you see this man on December 7, 2009?"

Also included:

Screen shots and photos of Josh Powell, photos of Susan and Josh Powell together (Amber Hardman), photos of Facebook group "susan powell" members searching for Susan Powell and Susan Powell artwork from the Facebook group "susan powell".

http://www.youtube.com/v/m-3ZH5SqqZs&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&border=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 08, 2010, 03:18:21 PM
(posted yesterday on youtube):

 SusanPowellCase
January 07, 2010

Maybe someone who doesn't have a TV saw Josh Powell! There are enough Susan videos out there. Let's get this Josh Powell photo slide show spread all over the Internet!

NEW Susan Powell flier with 5 photos of Josh Powell asking "Information Wanted - Did you see this man on December 7, 2009?"

Also included:

Screen shots and photos of Josh Powell, photos of Susan and Josh Powell together (Amber Hardman), photos of Facebook group "susan powell" members searching for Susan Powell and Susan Powell artwork from the Facebook group "susan powell".

http://www.youtube.com/v/m-3ZH5SqqZs&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&border=1

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 08, 2010, 04:25:57 PM
cece

There is Josh's van which was driven throughout the night and day of December 7th but ... there was also the rental vehical driven by this guy two days later ... accumulating hundreds of miles.  Was he dotting the i's and crossing the t's in regards to covering up his wrongdoing.

The YouTube of Josh's images that you are suggesting should also contain as much information as possible regarding the vehicles.

If investigators had done all this at the getgo ... when time had not deminished recollections ... maybe ... just maybe ... justice would be taking its course right now for Susan Powell.

In my opinion ... this young mom was betrayed by the Utah justice system.  The red flags directed at Josh Powell were all there to justify such action when time had not deminished recollections.  Maybe ... just maybe ... justice would currently  be taking it course.

Janet

++++++

Police ask why Powell drove so far in rental car
By Pat Reavy
Deseret News
Published: Monday, Dec. 21, 2009 9:03 p.m. MST


WEST VALLEY CITY — A car rented by Josh Powell two days after his wife was reported missing was returned just 24 hours later with a lot of miles on it, according to police.

"It looks like there were several hundred miles driven," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan told the Deseret News.  

Investigators do not know where the car was taken or where Josh Powell was during that 24-hour period. There was no GPS data stored in that rental car, said McLachlan, who declined Monday to say from where the vehicle was rented.

Powell reportedly rented the car after police seized his minivan — his only vehicle — to be processed for evidence in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell. The van has since been returned to Josh Powell.

Questions surrounding the rental car are just a few of many to which West Valley police would like Josh Powell to provide detailed answers. But as of Monday, they say, he continues to be non-forthcoming and has not accepted their open invitation to return to police headquarters for another interview.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353130/Police-ask-why-Powell-drove-so-far-in-rental-car.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 05:34:02 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705357087/Recovered-body-identified.html


Recovered body identified; American Fork man arrested in slaying

AMERICAN FORK — An American Fork man has been arrested in the shooting death of a Lehi man, and police believe he wrapped the body in plastic garbage bags and duct tape and dumped it in Elko County, Nev.

The body of Jesus Landin, 46, was discovered Thursday in the remote Pilot Springs area of Nevada near West Wendover, said American Fork Police Lt. Sam Liddiard. Ramon Alfredo Somoza, 29, was arrested for investigation of murder and obstruction of justice in connection with Landin's death.


Before the body was identified, speculation ran rampant Thursday afternoon that the victim was missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell.


American Fork detectives were already investigating Somoza before Landin's body was found. In fact, Liddiard said, Somoza was being interviewed by police Thursday afternoon when news broke about the body in Nevada. Police were able to use that discovery to add pressure to their interview, he said.

On Dec. 28, Landin told a friend he was leaving his home in Lehi to confront a previous employer about money owed to him, Liddiard said.

He went to the Apollo Dance Hall in American Fork where Somoza works, and Landin was not heard from again.


Landin calls his wife and other family members in Mexico several times every day, Liddiard said. When he failed to call for a couple of days, friends became concerned and contacted police Dec. 31 to make a missing-person report.

Going through his cell phone records, investigators determined Landin had last made a call Dec. 28 near the dance hall. Detectives later went through a Dumpster on the property of the dance hall. In it, they found pieces of carpet, padding, a sheet that appeared to have blood spatters on it and had a hole that appeared to be from a gunshot, as well as gunshot residue, Liddiard said.

The police work, combined with the timing of the body being found at the same time Somoza was being interviewed, resulted in a confession that the shooting had happened in a basement apartment of the dance hall, Liddiard said.

A photo was sent to investigators on the scene in Elko to confirm the identity of the body.

Late Thursday, American Fork police, with help from Tooele police, served a search warrant on the apartment to collect additional forensic evidence, including more blood, Liddiard said.

The vehicle used to transport the body to Nevada was found, as well as a gun inside. Landin's vehicle was discovered to have been taken away from the dance hall by a towing company.

Somoza was being held Friday in the Utah County Jail on $500,000 bail.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on January 08, 2010, 11:45:34 PM
sorry if this is a repeat

Susan Powell Neighbor Recording
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXNz2J_bLM&NR=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 09, 2010, 07:47:19 AM
http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=70171

Josh Powell's Family Don't Think He Should Leave State
Reported by: Chris Jones
Friday, Jan 8, 2010 @11:46pm

KUTV News conducted a revealing interview with the sister and brother-in-law of Josh Powell.  Jennifer and Kirk Graves spoke candidly to our Chris Jones about Powell's plans to move, his lack of communication with the media, police and even other family members.

ON POWELL'S PLANS TO MOVE.

Jennifer Graves, Powell's sister:  I'm disappointed, I don't want him to move I don't think he should move at this time.   We are supposed to be focused on trying to find Susan and I think his place is here with us in Salt Lake, looking for Susan

Kirk Graves, Powell's brother-in-law:  From a public relations stand point it just makes him look worse.  I don't' know how he feels about that but I got to think that's not a good thing. (Josh) has family here and we can help him out, leaving here just means he's not available to the police or anyone else helping the Susan situation.

ON POWELL'S LACK ON DIALOG WITH THE MEDIA, POLICE AND FAMILY.

Kirk Graves:  I've tried to express to him that the media are not all the bad guys.  I think if (Josh) were to get out and talk a little bit (to the media)  it would give people a chance to listen to what he has to say, I think that would be a great thing.

Jennifer Graves:  Normally he's very talkative, you really just can't get him to be quiet most of the time.  He dominates the conversation most of the time, he talks and talks and talks, so it's very odd that he's been very quiet during all of this.

ON WHAT POWELL HAS SAID ABOUT HIS WIFE'S DISAPPEARANCE.

Jennifer Graves:  he's said very little, you know, I asked a lot of questions and he would give the same answers that were being reported and so, where do you go with that? that's all you get.

ON WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED TO SUSAN.

Chris Jones:  Do you think Josh could have had anything to do with Susan's disappearance? 

Jennifer Graves:  I hope not.

Kirk Graves:   I know that Susan didn't leave on her own and that's what I know, which leaves us with that something happened.  I find it very difficult to believe it's Josh,  which leaves a short list, a really short list of who it might have been.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: theboyzmom on January 09, 2010, 08:56:16 AM
sorry if this is a repeat

Susan Powell Neighbor Recording
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXNz2J_bLM&NR=1

Wow - this guy is pissed. The fact that Josh can not shut up normally and now will not speak is huge for me. And the comment about stabbing his wife is strange in my book.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 09, 2010, 02:54:56 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 09, 2010, 03:00:18 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705357318/Friends-neighbors-help-Josh-Powell-pack-for-move-from-Utah.html


Friends, neighbors help Josh Powell pack for move from Utah

WEST VALLEY CITY — Just before 10 a.m. Saturday a quiet, somber-looking Josh Powell directed a 24-foot U-Haul truck into his driveway.

He went inside his home at 6254 W. Sarah Circle accompanied by a friend, and little by little, friends and neighbors came trickling in to help him pack his belongings for the move to his home state of Washington.

By late morning, at least 10 volunteers had come to help and their message was the same. Until they know what happened to Susan Powell, Josh Powell is a friend and neighbor like any other.

"The biggest thing is, nobody knows," said John Dabel, a member of Powell's LDS Church ward. "We're like everybody else. You just hope somebody you know wouldn't do something like that. But we don't even know if anything did happen."

Friend and neighbor Ron Stagg said the decision Josh Powell has made to move in the midst of an ongoing search for Susan Powell is his to make.

"Without a normal income and Susan's income, there's no way he can hang onto the house," Stagg said. "No matter who's responsible for Susan's disappearance, Josh is still suffering."

(http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/2302758.jpg)
Josh Powell receives a hug from a friend as friends and neighbors of Josh Powell assist him in moving allegedly back to Washington on Saturday.

(http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/2302755.jpg)
Josh Powell gives some instructions during the move as friends and neighbors of Josh Powell assist him in moving allegedly back to Washington on Saturday. (Scott G. Winterton, Deseret News)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: BooMonkey on January 09, 2010, 03:52:52 PM
sorry if this is a repeat

Susan Powell Neighbor Recording
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXNz2J_bLM&NR=1

Wow - this guy is pissed. The fact that Josh can not shut up normally and now will not speak is huge for me. And the comment about stabbing his wife is strange in my book.

Very interesting indeed. Would someone with nothing to hide and very concerned about his loving wife's disappearance make such a comment?? Can you imagine Natale Holloway's Dad making such a comment? How about Nancy Grace, would she say such a thing if her dear husband was missing? He's hiding a whole lot and hoping that LE and the media keep the hell out of his business till he has it all straight in his head.  He left that day with the rental car to make sure all his tracks were covered and that the body would not be discovered. He even improved on the site, hence the wind chapped hands. How can he look his little ones in the eyes and say I don't know what happened to Mommy? He has no soul.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 09, 2010, 06:35:21 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582686,00.html

Missing Utah Woman's Husband Moves Out of State

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah —
The husband of a missing Utah woman was moving out of the couple's home in a Salt Lake City suburb to Washington state Saturday, and police said they couldn't prevent the move.

West Valley City Police have named Josh Powell the only person of interest in the Dec. 7 disappearance of Susan Powell, but he has not been named a suspect.

"We cannot and are not limiting his ability to move freely," police Capt. Tom McLachlan told The Associated Press on Saturday.

Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 7. She was last seen by her husband, who said he left on a winter camping trip with the couple's children at about 12:30 a.m. that day.

"He has not been cooperating with us very much up to this point," McLachlan said. He said they're watching the move, "and we're interested in it, but we can't prevent it."

McLachlan declined to comment on whether his department has been in contact with Washington state authorities.

Asked by reporters if he wanted to say anything before he briefly left his home around noon Saturday, Josh Powell replied "no." Powell has not said specifically where he is moving. His father and Susan Powell's parents live in Puyallup, a city south of Seattle where the couple met.

Powell's sister, Jennifer Graves, told KUTV on Friday that she was disappointed about her brother's decision to move.

"We are supposed to be focused on trying to find Susan and I think his place is here with us in Salt Lake, looking for Susan," she said.

Friends said Powell has been fired as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company and may be financially unable to keep the home.

"Without a normal income and Susan's income, there's no way he can hang onto the house," neighbor Ron Stagg, who helped with the move, told the Deseret News.

Following Susan Powell's disappearance, friends and family said the couple were having marital difficulties and undergoing counseling. Court records show the couple had declared bankruptcy.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 09, 2010, 07:40:08 PM
Comments on: 'The Move'
http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=14156510&sec=Utah%20Local%20News%20-%20Salt%20Lake%20City%20News,%20Sports,%20Entertainment,%20Business%20-%20The%20Salt%20Lake%20Tribune


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 10, 2010, 12:20:12 AM
User comment,

jgh 1971:  1/9/2010 11:56:00 AM  +23     

Blueprint for killing someone:   1. make sure a body can't be found.
   2. Keep your mouth shut so you don't incriminate yourself.  
   3. Get out of town.  
   
   Check, check and check. To be fair, he is innocent until proven guilty.
 One thing is clear though. This man did not like his wife  and could care less whether she is dead or missing or whatever. he is either a very good criminal or a very lucky guy to have this burden taken off his hands.




LDSMendacity:  1/9/2010 12:02:00 PM  +26     

You couldn't get me to leave the town, not to mention the state, if my wife was missing. I'd search ALONE if I couldn't get Stagg and Dabel to help.
   
   I'd search until I dropped and I'd go anywhere and do anything to help the police eliminate me as a suspect so that we could concentrate on getting her back.
   
   But his demeanor seriously casts his innocence into doubt. He's moved on with his life...like he's confident her body won't be found.
   
   These are not the actions of an innocent man who cares about his wife and children.


http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=14156510&PageIndex=3

I could read these comments all night..  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Sister on January 11, 2010, 01:29:09 AM
video

http://www.comcast.net/video/husband-of-missing-utah-mom-leaves-state/1382022801/Comcast/1380509550/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 11, 2010, 11:19:13 AM
http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=70351

Josh Powell Move To Washington The Talk Of The Town
Reported by:
Monday, Jan 11, 2010 @08:40am

Josh Powell is moving out of his Utah home and into a gated community in Puyallup, Washington. But he may not get a warm welcome from his new neighbors there.

Powell was still at his Utah home this weekend, spotted packing a moving truck. He has said that he last saw his wife, Susan, on December 7th, when he took their young sons camping just after midnight.

Police in Utah have named him a person of interest in her disappearance and would like to speak with him again.

But Josh has decided to leave the state and move near his family in Washington State.

At the home of Steve Powell, Josh's father, a woman who answered the door at the said the family had no comment.

But neighbors have plenty to say.

"It's a little concerning. I wasn't aware he was moving in to this subdivision," said a concerned neighbor who didn’t want to be identified. She says the speculation about Susan Powell's disappearance has been un-nerving.

"I was a little concerned. I mean the whole thing sounds really suspicious," she said.

Just before Christmas, Josh Powell made an appearance at a vigil in Puyallup for his wife. He was shielded by some of his friends and declined to speak with reporters.  Utah police say he is free to come and go as he pleases,

But neighbors are curious about his move.

"If it was my wife that disappeared, I think I would have stayed and would have certainly have talked to police and told them everything I know," said neighbor Niels Bogh.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 11, 2010, 04:43:13 PM
http://www.latimes.com/kstu-home-of-missing-utah-mom-now-vacant-husband,0,4439668.story


Home of Missing Utah Mom Now Vacant; Husband, Sons Leave for Wash.

(video report at link)

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - The home of Susan Powell, the Utah mother of two who has been missing since Dec. 7, has been emptied out as her husband Josh and their two sons are moving to Washington state. Friends and family helped pack a U-Haul truck for the Powell family, and the truck left their West Valley City neighborhood at about 10:00 a.m. Monday. Josh's brother, Michael, was seen driving the Powell family's minivan away from the home. Neither of the Powell brothers would speak to FOX 13 News. Betty Trujillo, a former neighbor of the Powell family, said she finds it difficult to understand why Josh is moving.

"I'm, like everybody else, think[ing] that he probably should've stayed and waited to see what happens," Trujillo told FOX 13 News.

Trujillo was one of several people involved with helping the Powell family pack their belongings for the move to Washington. Whether or not the family's West Valley City home will be placed on the market for sale was unclear. In the meantime, detectives are still waiting for the results of forensic testing on items retrieved from the home following Susan's disappearance. Police say they have no new information to release in the investigation of Susan Powell's disappearance. Josh Powell remains a person of interest in the case, and his move to Washington will not affect the investigation because, police say, he has been uncooperative anyway.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 11, 2010, 04:49:52 PM
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Josh-Powell-leaves-Utah-home/VuR4bt5AAk2EnHkNehtI4g.cspx

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Josh Powell, the "person of interest" in his wife Susan's disappearance officially left his West Valley City home bound for Washington around 9:30 a.m. Monday morning.

Josh asked a members from his church to help him move over the weekend, a request met with mixed emotions. Among them was Wendy Trujillo who said, “Josh has his ups and downs. There are difficult times and I try to talk to him and get his mind off things."

Others said since nothing has been proven they are still his friend and were willing to help him in his time of need.

Josh Powell and his brother Michael started the uhaul moving van and Josh's minivan around 7:30 this morning. They loaded a few more items throughout the morning. Josh drove the uhaul and Micheal the minivan.

ABC 4 asked Josh if he had anything he would like to say before leaving and he didn't acknowledge reporters as he quickly jumped in the moving van and sped off.

(http://www.abc4.com/media/lib/5/7/3/d/73d96277-cec9-465d-b422-4b1aa55f33ce/Original.jpg)

video at link.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 11, 2010, 04:59:21 PM
OMG this POS makes me sick. I can't stand the sight of him. He is second in line after Drew Peterson. He reeks of arrogance.  ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: (http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/5.gif)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on January 11, 2010, 05:09:53 PM
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Josh-Powell-leaves-Utah-home/VuR4bt5AAk2EnHkNehtI4g.cspx

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Josh Powell, the "person of interest" in his wife Susan's disappearance officially left his West Valley City home bound for Washington around 9:30 a.m. Monday morning.

Josh asked a members from his church to help him move over the weekend, a request met with mixed emotions. Among them was Wendy Trujillo who said, “Josh has his ups and downs. There are difficult times and I try to talk to him and get his mind off things."

Others said since nothing has been proven they are still his friend and were willing to help him in his time of need.

Josh Powell and his brother Michael started the uhaul moving van and Josh's minivan around 7:30 this morning. They loaded a few more items throughout the morning. Josh drove the uhaul and Micheal the minivan.

ABC 4 asked Josh if he had anything he would like to say before leaving and he didn't acknowledge reporters as he quickly jumped in the moving van and sped off.

(http://www.abc4.com/media/lib/5/7/3/d/73d96277-cec9-465d-b422-4b1aa55f33ce/Original.jpg)

video at link.

You know what struck me most about this?  The statement U-Haul has printed on the door, right under Josh's face.  That sums it up for me.  If I were to put into print the unwritten but clear end to that statement for that picture?

 "Without Your Wife".  :smt093


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 11, 2010, 05:28:49 PM
OMG this POS makes me sick. I can't stand the sight of him. He is second in line after Drew Peterson. He reeks of arrogance.  ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: (http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/5.gif)
I can't believe the look on his face in that moving van  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 12, 2010, 08:44:34 AM
http://www.latimes.com/kstu-home-of-missing-utah-mom-now-vacant-husband,0,4439668.story
Home of Missing Utah Mom Now Vacant; Husband, Sons Leave for Wash.

David Wells Senior Web Producer

January 11, 2010 | 9:33 p.m.

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WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - The home of Susan Powell, the Utah mother of two who has been missing since Dec. 7, has been emptied out as her husband Josh and their two sons are moving to Washington state. Friends and family helped pack a U-Haul truck for the Powell family, and the truck left their West Valley City neighborhood at about 10:00 a.m. Monday. Josh's brother, Michael, was seen driving the Powell family's minivan away from the home. Neither of the Powell brothers would speak to FOX 13 News. Betty Trujillo, a former neighbor of the Powell family, said she finds it difficult to understand why Josh is moving.

"I'm, like everybody else, think[ing] that he probably should've stayed and waited to see what happens," Trujillo told FOX 13 News.
Trujillo was one of several people involved with helping the Powell family pack their belongings for the move to Washington. Whether or not the family's West Valley City home will be placed on the market for sale was unclear. In the meantime, detectives are still waiting for the results of forensic testing on items retrieved from the home following Susan's disappearance. Police say they have no new information to release in the investigation of Susan Powell's disappearance. Josh Powell remains a person of interest in the case, and his move to Washington will not affect the investigation because, police say, he has been uncooperative anyway.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  POS


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: SloSthrnStyle on January 12, 2010, 04:08:33 PM
"If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

In this case, get the hell out of the state.....OMG...what a pos.  That picture speaks volumes to me.  The look on his face says...I cant get out of here fast enough!!.

I hope that media plants their behinds right where he lives and stays!!
Put pictures up of his wife all around....With banners saying "WHERE IS SHE".

No rest for the wicked.

You may run, but you can never hide.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on January 12, 2010, 04:35:46 PM
Have any of the friends that helped him pack said anything about the carpet (the wet
area with the two fans)....like did LE cut out that section?  And how large was the
area?  Any other observations of the inside of the home?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 12, 2010, 05:08:26 PM
1. Probably not
2. Probably not
3. No clue
4. Probably not


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 12, 2010, 06:11:24 PM
1. Probably not
2. Probably not
3. No clue
4. Probably not


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 12, 2010, 06:41:24 PM
Edward, how perfect, and the look on Josh's face I swear looks like the devil  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Bud's Girl on January 13, 2010, 03:02:26 PM
Edward, how perfect, and the look on Josh's face I swear looks like the devil  ::MonkeyEek::

He looks & sounds half a bubble off.      ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on January 13, 2010, 07:22:49 PM
what does this woman, mean when she says, so what do ya think josh is
 going to do with susans stuff

what woman said
he has her things out close their not gonna go in storage

it starts at 1 min, in the vid
http://www.comcast.net/video/husband-of-missing-utah-mom-leaves-state/1382022801/Comcast/1380509550/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on January 13, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
Have you seen this? Josh's Dad is a "musician" known as Steve Chantrey.
SteveChantrey.com... Josh made the site.

Sub-album in the Susan album:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/Interesting%20People/

Susan's main album:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/
(there are a few sub-albums listed in the left area, including the "lady" who disrespected Susan's home so much that she mooned the camera crew upon entering)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 14, 2010, 09:43:52 AM
Have you seen this? Josh's Dad is a "musician" known as Steve Chantrey.
SteveChantrey.com... Josh made the site.

Sub-album in the Susan album:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/Interesting%20People/

Susan's main album:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/
(there are a few sub-albums listed in the left area, including the "lady" who disrespected Susan's home so much that she mooned the camera crew upon entering)


1.  Josh Powell looks just like his father
2.  Steve Powell aka Steve Chantrey has some serious issues.  Have you gone to his website and read the "About Me"?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 14, 2010, 10:01:55 AM
http://www.stevechantrey.com/Pages/About/MeetSteve.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: tupelohoney on January 14, 2010, 10:09:21 AM
Have you seen this? Josh's Dad is a "musician" known as Steve Chantrey.
SteveChantrey.com... Josh made the site.

Sub-album in the Susan album:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/Interesting%20People/

Susan's main album:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Susan%20Powell/
(there are a few sub-albums listed in the left area, including the "lady" who disrespected Susan's home so much that she mooned the camera crew upon entering)


1.  Josh Powell looks just like his father
2.  Steve Powell aka Steve Chantrey has some serious issues.  Have you gone to his website and read the "About Me"?
Serious issues may be an understatement. Why is this even on his site?  I would like to know what happened to Steve's mother....is she alive? 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on January 14, 2010, 02:34:18 PM
I think the man is possibly mentally ill. I don't think I've seen anything like this.
It is disturbed and disturbing.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: leslee on January 14, 2010, 04:34:52 PM
That is creepy ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: I wonder what happened to his mother, and I wonder if Josh thought he would repeat history or was given a nudge cuz his dad apparently grew up "fine".


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Mere on January 14, 2010, 04:51:03 PM
http://www.stevechantrey.com/Pages/About/MeetSteve.aspx


I think this man stopped developing at age 7.....and there wasn't much healthy development before that.....and that is my own opinion.....lol.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 16, 2010, 01:46:44 PM
By vacating that home and having others move into that home destroys any evidence at a very possible crime scene.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 16, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Yup


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: suzyinpgh on January 17, 2010, 06:24:42 PM
It is really sad that we haven't heard anything yet.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on January 17, 2010, 07:00:19 PM
It is really sad that we haven't heard anything yet.

The thought that we might have to wait until the spring thaw to be able to effectively search keeps going through my mind on this one.  Josh may not have done anything to Susan that left evidence of a crime at the house, especially if he may have given her drugs or a sedative and got her out of the house and then did the deed.  I wonder if LE is just really willing to wait and try to recover a body?  Even though Josh is being uncooperative and etc., that may not be enough to put a murder charge on him.  JMHO


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 18, 2010, 10:24:32 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Susan-Powells-father-asks-for-prayers-for-those/GLvB15b5aki8F9EZSpJ0IQ.cspx

Susan Powell's father asks for prayers for those in Haiti and his daughter

SALT LAKE CITY, UT (ABC 4 News)– Chuck Cox, father of Susan Powell, is asking people to keep praying for the victims of Haiti, but to also pray for the continued search and safe return of his daughter.

Powell was last seen on December seventh when her husband says he left her at home to take thier sons camping. Police have since been trying to find any information that could lead to her or to the reasons of her disappearance.

Some of the forensics results have been completed but any access to the results has been denied for now, said Cox.

ABC 4 contacted West Valley Police to confirm that results are in, and what type of information is known based on the forensic results, but were told Police will not comment because it could impact the ongoing investigation.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 18, 2010, 10:28:01 AM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-father-of-missing-utah-mom-holds-out-hope,0,846685.story

Father of Missing Utah Mom Still Holds out Hope

(video at link)

SALT LAKE CITY - The father of missing Utah mother, Susan Powell, says police have recently received results of some forensic evidence in the case. In a Facebook page posting, Chuck Cox wrote that police wouldn't share any specifics because of the ongoing investigation.

West Valley City police declined to comment but the Cox family spokesperson, Shelby Griffard commented that the family is confident Susan is still alive and the West Valley Police Deparment is doing everything they can to find her. Griffard also tells FOX 13 the family have not seen their grandchildren since Josh returned to Seattle after moving out of the Powell's Salt Lake City Home.

Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 7. She was last seen by husband Josh Powell, who said he left on a winter camping trip with the couple's children around midnight that day.

Josh still remains the only person of interest and police have not named a suspect in the case.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 18, 2010, 10:29:07 AM
I thinks an arrest warrant is being issued..   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 18, 2010, 10:31:00 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705359021/Police-gathering-Powell-evidence.html


Police gathering evidence in Powell case


WEST VALLEY CITY — Test results from forensic evidence gathered in the case of missing West Valley mother Susan Powell are reportedly starting to come back to police investigators.

On the "Friends and Family of Susan Powell" Facebook page, Powell's father, Chuck Cox, wrote that the investigation was proceeding.

"Some of the forensics have been completed some have not, police cannot comment on specifics as it could impact the ongoing investigation," Cox wrote.

Susan's friend and Cox family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford said West Valley police have been providing Cox with regular updates.

"The investigation is complex. We're happy they report back to us and are making progress. We're confident they're dotting all the i's and crossing the t's," she said.

As for Cox's comment regarding the forensic test results, Gifford said it was only meant to be an update that the case was moving along.

"There's a whole series of tests to be run. There are a lot of components to it," she said. "It isn't a specific item."

Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 7. Her husband, Josh Powell, remained a person of interest because of his lack of cooperation with police. In his Facebook update Friday, Cox said there was "still no cooperation or help from Josh."

A week ago, Josh packed up his West Valley home and moved back to his and Susan's hometown of Puyallup, Wash., where Josh and Susan's families still live. Powell, who lost his job shortly after his wife disappeared, had been staying with his parents in Washington since Christmas.

Gifford said Cox had not seen Josh since the last week of December and also had not seen his grandsons, Josh and Susan's two boys, ages 2 and 4.

"The move to Washington has not reduced the determination of the WVPD," Cox wrote. "If anything, it provides more determination and more law enforcement officers ... because we have law enforcement in Washington state also."

West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan said he could not discuss any potential evidence investigators may or may not have.

Also on Facebook, Cox said the "Friends and Family of Susan Powell" page had recently been the victim of cyber attacks with vulgar and sexually explicit material being posted "designed to discredit my daughter and destroy the site."

"As our numbers grow we have attracted the attention of some who do not share our goal of bringing Susan home. We know that some people do not understand why we do not speculate. Please know that we have consulted experts and are following a course that will support those searching for Susan and support our family."

Cox said the family was "still confident that Susan will be found and very hopeful that she will be found alive." He also praised the work being done by Kiirsi Hellewell, one of Susan's close friends in Utah.

Gifford said the family was planning on a new campaign this week to keep Susan's face and story alive in the public eye.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cece on January 18, 2010, 10:35:52 AM
I thinks an arrest warrant is being issued..   ::MonkeyDevil::

That would be great news & I look forward to that day!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 18, 2010, 06:06:54 PM
I am not going to hold my breath on that one  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 18, 2010, 10:32:35 PM
Has this been posted??.... I didn't see it, if it was.



BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 18, 2010, 10:34:48 PM
Comments      lol  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=14218073&sec=News


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on January 18, 2010, 10:51:31 PM
Comments      lol  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=14218073&sec=News

Interesting comments.  I've seen the Youtube with Frostie the Cockatoo.  He's pretty talented, imo.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 19, 2010, 12:25:25 AM
Quote
"We're learning every day, and I'm really hoping that we see success and these young women are found alive," Artwick said.
End.

On the subject of Social Networking.. Like Facebook, My Space or any of the other web sites like them.

Social Networking does not include Tough Subjects like missing people.. and you will always have the drive by poster !!
He/She who has contempt and a desire to make rude and obnoxious comments..

That is why it is better accomplished in sites like Scared Monkeys and Web Sleuths, Refugees or Blogs for Natalee  These are the social networking sites for people interested in investigation through Internet related research and provable theory through relative professional web sites of information as to why any idea relative to the disappearance of Susan Powell or any other missing person can be considered viable.
 I believe people become more astute with opinions and then.. the reality of cases solved....
Experience sets the pace. You have to earn it ! After time you are able to pull Arrest records and Maps and professional opinion as well as other cases relative.
 We become more refined armed with links to viable information that detectives can use to investigate and possibly lead to solving cases and leading detectives to possible suspects, or in the case of a few, to a live missing person.

People involved in these sites are consistent and learning all the time.
I have had the Honor of watching them work. I have tried to learn as well.

Scared Monkeys and other sites like it have been a study in social networking.
We are the first in history to do this !
Every one of you since the beginning have been a part in history.
How we make this work or not expresses win or failure's to future generations.
In other words we either help investigators or this idea goes down in flames and ends up nothing more then a glorified ego/opinion related forum/chat room.

Over the last 5-7 years we have seen a lot of people come and go..
We have witness cases solved and not.. We have been witness, through witness, educated. 
In all the investigative forums exists an elite group of Internet researchers, those that have been here for years collecting data or know how to get the data.
It has been an amazing event in sociology.
No other nation has been successful in this type of forum developed out of concern for others.
You have...
 You Gotta Love That


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: callie4u on January 19, 2010, 01:27:42 AM
Edward, You are so on point!! 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 19, 2010, 03:02:40 PM
BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 19, 2010, 03:04:05 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9391743
1 of 2 Powell Facebook pages deleted
January 19th, 2010 @ 8:26am

SALT LAKE CITY -- A Facebook page related to the disappearance of Susan Powell has been deleted.

Two rival Facebook pages with information about the West Valley City mother's disappearance were available on the social networking site.

The group page titled "Susan Powell" had about 6,000 members. The Salt Lake Tribune reports it has been deleted.

The other page, set up by Susan's family, is 42,000 members strong and still available on the site.

The page that was deleted frequently featured posts accusing Susan's husband, Josh Powell, of having a role in his wife's disappearance. The family page tends to filter those kinds of comments.

Usually, a page must be reported for it to be deleted. But a spokesperson for Susan's parents in Washington state says the family did not complain about the page.

A Facebook spokesperson tells the Tribune the reason the page was deleted
is unclear for now because of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday Monday.

Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 7. She was last seen by her husband, who said he left on a winter camping trip with the couple's children at about 12:30 a.m. that day.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 19, 2010, 03:06:05 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/01/19/Susan-Powell-Facebook-page-removed/UPI-60851263922707/

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Susan Powell Facebook page removed
Published: Jan. 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM
SALT LAKE CITY, Jan. 19 (UPI) -- A page on the Facebook Web site about missing Utah mother Susan Powell has been deleted, its creator says.

The Web page's creator, Leslie Bleak, wrote on her own Facebook page that Web site officials took the page down last week, reportedly after it had drawn complaints, The Salt Lake Tribune reported Tuesday.

A Facebook spokeswoman told the Tribune she hadn't had a chance to find out why the Susan Powell page was removed. The newspaper said Facebook's posted terms of use cautions that it reserves the right to remove content if it violates copyrights, other laws or the "spirit" of its terms.

Susan Powell disappeared in early December. Her husband, Joshua Powell, has been called a "person of interest" by police after he told them she was gone when he returned from a short camping trip with their two young sons.

The Tribune said Bleak's page, titled "Susan Powell," contained many postings accusing Joshua Powell of having a role in the disappearance.
Bleak earlier told the newspaper she started the Facebook page because she objected to restrictions on a page started by Susan Powell's family, and had received angry complaints from people asking her to remove her page.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 19, 2010, 05:08:08 PM
From: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705359021/Police-gathering-Powell-evidence.html

""Cox said the family was "still confident that Susan will be found and very hopeful that she will be found alive." He also praised the work being done by Kiirsi Hellewell, one of Susan's close friends in Utah.""

and from:
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-father-of-missing-utah-mom-holds-out-hope,0,846685.story

""Shelby Griffard commented that the family is confident Susan is still alive and the West Valley Police Deparment is doing everything they can to find her.""

Question:

Where do they think she might be??  I will never understand this.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Leroy on January 19, 2010, 07:00:45 PM
From: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705359021/Police-gathering-Powell-evidence.html

""Cox said the family was "still confident that Susan will be found and very hopeful that she will be found alive." He also praised the work being done by Kiirsi Hellewell, one of Susan's close friends in Utah.""

and from:
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-father-of-missing-utah-mom-holds-out-hope,0,846685.story

""Shelby Griffard commented that the family is confident Susan is still alive and the West Valley Police Deparment is doing everything they can to find her.""

Question:

Where do they think she might be??  I will never understand this.

I'm right there with ya...makes no sense at all! 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 19, 2010, 08:13:47 PM
Kiirsi Hellewell ?

Well who knows..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 20, 2010, 04:05:44 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/20/crimesider/entry6119449.shtml
January 20, 2010 11:35 AM
Missing Utah Mom Susan Powell is Missing from Facebook Too


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 23, 2010, 08:23:51 PM
(http://deephousepage.com/smilies/pullhair.gif) (http://deephousepage.com/smilies/rant.gif) (http://deephousepage.com/smilies/banghead.gif) (http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm051hmph.gif)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 24, 2010, 11:35:04 PM
The Facebook appears to be ok now

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=198478842187

Blog

http://findsusanpowell.blogspot.com/

Twitter

http://twitter.com/FindSusan

Youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/susanpowellsearch


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on January 25, 2010, 08:25:14 AM
Good Morning monkeys  ::HelloKitty:: This just baffles me. The family is holding on to hope and that she may be found alive. Where do they think she is? She left her purse, and I am assuming her wallet with her id was in it and her cell phone. There are no bank records as far as we know showing a money trail of her leaving to start a new identity. Nothing as far as we know showing an on line affair, or phone records indicating a third party. No just a strange stain on the floor that no one talks about, a husband who takes the kids camping in sub zero temps. late at night, and the fact that he has not searched for his wife, and just packed up and moved away. Why because logically we all know he knows she is dead and probably knows where she is. What is up with the Utah LE?  Sorry to complain about them but they should have done a more thorough investigation on this before letting this man clear that house out!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 25, 2010, 03:20:26 PM
Ido not know But I stopped doing research as soon as the family agreed she was alive.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 26, 2010, 08:36:06 PM
No need to be sorry Newfie.....we all feel the same way.  ::HelloKitty::

Edward....I don't blame you one bit  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 27, 2010, 04:51:55 PM
Supporters of missing Utah mother decorate home

Wednesday, January 27, 2010; 3:41 PM

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah -- Friends and family of a Utah woman missing since December have decorated her empty home with purple bows and hearts in hopes of renewing public interest in the case.

Susan Powell, 28, was last seen at home on Dec. 7. Her husband, Josh Powell, told police he saw his wife about 12:30 a.m. as he left with the couple's young sons for a winter camping trip on the Pony Express trail west of Salt Lake City.

Josh Powell, 34, has been called the sole person of interest in the case, but has not been arrested. He moved away from Utah weeks ago to stay with family in Washington state. His sister, Jennifer Graves, says the West Valley City house will eventually be sold.

Messages taped to the house Wednesday expressed love for Susan and promised a continued effort to find her and bring her home.

"If she comes back here, at least she'll have a warm welcome," said Graves, one of about two dozen who helped with the decorating project. "We'll keep hoping. We'll keep praying. We'll keep her name out there."

Police contend that Josh Powell has not been forthcoming with information in interviews with detectives.

"We have an open invitation to Joshua to come down, or invite us up there, to clear up some questions from his initial statements and help us verify what he has told us," West Valley City Capt. Tom McLachlan said.

New information and tips from the public have recently slowed, so investigators appreciate efforts by family and friends to keep Susan Powell's story in front of the public, McLachlan said.

A telephone message left for Josh Powell's attorney, Scott Williams, was not immediately returned Wednesday. Williams has said Josh Powell has cooperated with police and has never been asked to take investigators to the place he camped.

Graves and her husband said they were in Washington last Friday and had dinner with Josh Powell and his children - Charlie, 5, and Brayden, 3 - at her father's home. The couple declined to provide any details of their conversation with Josh Powell about his missing wife or his cooperation with police.

"I've been disappointed with his efforts," Jennifer Graves said. "He's chosen to walk away. His job right now is to talk to the police."

Graves said her nephews - both of whom celebrated birthdays in January - are doing well under the circumstances.

"They are aware that (Susan) is 'lost,' that's what they have been told," she said.

Graves said the family remains hopeful that Susan Powell is alive and will be found.

"Just keep looking, keep looking for her," she implored.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/27/AR2010012703220.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 28, 2010, 11:08:54 AM
Most guilty people DO stand in silence.
Why Not ?
They want you to prove it... IF you can't they are FREE.
It is the game guilty play..
Name almost any convicted criminal to see it is true.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on January 28, 2010, 08:21:24 PM
Hi all, I can understand hanging on to hope but at this point they have no basis in thinking she just walked away. I wonder what their logic is in this? Do they think that their daughter would just walk away from a home, family and a job? Especially since there is nothing leading anyone to believe this, no warning signs.  Again I say what the heck is wrong with the Utah LE ? They let this guy who should be a suspect walk away and taint a possible crime scene. Who is in their pockets? There are plenty of strangers and volunteers that are searching and trying to keep this alive, and yet Le is sitting on their butts doing Nada. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this out. They say the husband is not cooperating or talking to them. wth... haul him in and make him talk. Has anyone talked to the children separate from their father? What was the stain? okay enough... I am making myself upset with this and I am trying to cut calories which means less wine! argh.... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 29, 2010, 08:56:38 PM
Husband of Missing Woman Returns to Utah

January 29, 2010
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - Josh Powell, the husband of a West Valley City woman who has been missing since Dec. 7, has returned to Utah after moving to Washington state with his two sons on Jan. 11. John Hellewell, a friend of Powell, told FOX 13 News he is back in Utah to find tenants to live in his West Valley City house. Hellewell said Powell has spoken very little about his wife and his new life in Washington, and that Powell is still holding out hope that Susan will be found.

"He called me last week some time [and] said he was going to be coming back and asked if I would pick him up," Hellewell said. "Originally, he was planning on coming back on Tuesday, but he said he hadn't gotten around to gettting a flight booked."

Friends say there are still several pieces of furniture inside the house, and that Josh plans to finish the basement and deck. Powell remains the only person of interest in the disappearance of Susan Powell, and police say he has not been cooperative. Investigators are aware Powell is back in West Valley City and they would like to talk to him.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-husband-of-missing-woman-returns-to-utah,0,6569061.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 29, 2010, 09:27:52 PM
Newfie... you can call and ask em' .....  ::MonkeyHaHa::
 West Valley City Police Dept.
http://www.wvc-ut.gov/index.aspx?NID=130


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: CarolynV on January 29, 2010, 11:09:08 PM
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9507165


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on January 29, 2010, 11:12:51 PM
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9507165

Good!


Police impound car of missing Utah woman's husband for second search

January 29th, 2010 @ 6:10pm
By Sandra Yi

WEST VALLEY CITY -- Family and friends of Josh Powell -- the husband of missing woman Susan Powell -- told KSL News that Josh's car was impounded by police early Friday evening. They say investigators took the car for a second search on an existing warrant. Police have not yet confirmed this information.

Meanwhile, Josh is back in Utah. He returned to his West Valley City home Thursday night after moving to Washington earlier this month.

A close friend said Josh Powell is planning to rent out the house where he and Susan lived.

Friend and neighbor John Hellewell has kept in touch with Josh and talked to him on the phone several times last week. He gave Josh a ride from the airport around 9:30 Thursday night.

((snipped))


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: darla on January 30, 2010, 03:06:46 AM
Good Evening Monkeys!


I have this problem with the cops in Utah....".We have invited him to come in and talk with us or for him to invite us up to Washington to speak with him"

Since when do you need an invitation to talk to a suspect in a possible murder? What ever happened to haul his azz in and get some answers. This is just plain rediculous. I think someone needs to call the FBI or somebody in


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 30, 2010, 09:07:13 AM
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/22383839/detail.html
Police Search Van Of Missing Utah Woman's Husband
Josh Powell Staying With Family In Wash. State

POSTED: 9:12 pm EST January 29, 2010
UPDATED: 8:22 am EST January 30, 2010
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah -- Police in suburban Salt Lake City have searched a minivan belonging to the husband of a Utah woman who has been missing since early December.

West Valley City police Capt. Anita Schwemmer said investigators impounded Josh Powell's minivan on Thursday after obtaining a search warrant.

Susan Powell was last seen at home on Dec. 7. Josh Powell told police he saw his wife about 12:30 a.m. as he left with the couple's young sons for a winter camping trip on the Pony Express trail west of Salt Lake City.

Josh Powell, 34, has been called the sole person of interest in the case, but has not been arrested. He moved away from Utah weeks ago to stay with family in Washington state.

He was back in Utah on Friday to prepare his West Valley City home to sell or rent.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on January 30, 2010, 01:46:50 PM
Newfie... you can call and ask em' .....  ::MonkeyHaHa::
 West Valley City Police Dept.
http://www.wvc-ut.gov/index.aspx?NID=130

I don't think they want me to call them. My daughter is taking an ethics class and they were doing random statistics where it was stated most women are killed by there husbands. I asked her if they could discuss this case in class. I am interested to find out the results if they do. This is just frustrating. These cops cannot be that stupid. Something is up with this. Is it a religious thing? I am not trying to offend anyone's religion but it seems they are going way to easy on this guy.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 30, 2010, 05:19:15 PM
LOOKS like it happened again.....

Susan Powell Update: Susan Powell Facebook page vanishes, not the first time

January 29, 11:51 PM

Today without warning and with no word from Facebook as to what happened one of the Susan Powell Facebook pages, like Susan Powell, mysteriously vanished, leaving family and friends devastated - and this is not the first time.

When asked what she thought happened, Kiirsi said in an email this evening, “I don’t know.”

The West Valley City Police Department was notified today. Kiirsi said, “The police are just as upset about it as we are.”

Kiirsi doesn't know for sure what they will do but says this will not be tolerated. Susan's family will consider issuing a press release involving media in putting pressure on Facebook.

Facebook has been less than cooperative when issues arose in the past.

Not the first time

This isn’t the only Susan Powell Facebook page to disappear.

On Jan. 14 the creator of the “Susan Powell” Facebook page, Leslie Bleak, was notified by Facebook that her page was taken down.

Bleak’s page had about 6,000 members and provided a place where people could share information without it being censored.

The Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page administrators deleted posts that were speculative or abusive.

While there was speculation that Bleak’s page was removed at the urging of friends and family of Susan Powell, Shelby Gifford, a friend and spokeswoman for Susan Powell's parents, said the family did not complain to Facebook about Bleak's page.

Friends and family of Susan Powell were surprised when the page was removed and said they had no problems with the page being up. It was another way to spread the story of Susan’s disappearance.

Bleak has since created the SusanPowell 2 Facebook page that, as of this evening, has 131 members.

Prior to the removal of Bleak’s page by Facebook, both of the Susan Powell Facebook pages had received sexually explicit comments about Susan and posted pornographic pictures.

JoVonna Owings said in a phone conversation this evening, “A person signed onto the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page as Susan and said awful things. The ‘troll’ says he has a friend in high places at Facebook and he would take the site down.”

It is believed the same ‘troll’ recently warned Kiirsi that he/she had purchased the URLs to www.susanpowell.com, .net, and .org.

A search revealed the URLs had in fact been purchased years ago.

The susanpowell.com URL has been owned by Banyan Productions in Philadelphia since Feb. 3, 1999.

Threats he/she purchased susanpowell.net were also false. That URL is owned by Susan Powell in Tustin, Calif., is administered by Emerald Publications, and was created on Dec. 2, 2004.

The susanpowell.org URL was created July 16, 2006, and is registered privately.

However, that URL, and the others, were all created long before the threats were made by this ‘troll’.


MORE>>>>
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d29-Susan-Powell-Update-Susan-Powell-Facebook-page-vanishes-not-the-first-time


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 30, 2010, 05:20:43 PM
JoVonna Owings clears up a misconception about the day Susan Powell disappeared

January 30, 2:22 AM

JoVonna Owings and Susan Powell were friends. Owings is the last person, other than Susan’s husband, Joshua Powell, to see Susan before she went missing nearly two months ago.

Police are frustrated at the lack of cooperation from Josh and are calling him the only person of interest in this case. Police are calling this a missing person’s case with “suspicious overtones."

JoVonna said, “Susan and I knew each other from church for about a year and became close friends about a month before she went missing. I was with her on the day she disappeared and I’ve often wondered what I could have done differently, is there something I should have seen or heard that would have raised a red flag?"

“The only thing that I thought was a little unusual was that Josh took so long to prepare brunch," she said, "Susan took the kids to church in the morning and walked home around noon. I came to their house for the afternoon to spend time with the family and to help Susan untangle some yarn."

“Josh had already started cooking before we got there and didn’t have the meal ready until about 4 p.m. I just figured he didn’t have much experience in the kitchen. When we did eat it was a pleasant meal. He made us scrambled eggs with onions and bell peppers and pancakes with cream cheese.”

JoVonna remembers things went well during their late brunch and that Josh and Susan showed no signs of trouble.

“Not long after we ate Susan was tired and wanted to take a nap,” Owings said.

“One misconception I’d like to clear up is that Susan did not say she was sick and she did not appear sick. She was just tired and wanted to rest for a little while."

She went on, “Josh said he’d take the kids out sledding while she rested, and I left at the same time he and the boys left, between 5 and 5:30 p.m. on Dec. 6.”

“I never went back into Susan’s room to tell her goodbye, something I have regretted not doing. Of course I never thought that might be the last time I’d ever see her."

JoVonna said she offered to bring the yarn back that evening but Josh said no, not to worry about it because Susan wouldn't get a chance to work on it until her next days off.

It was JoVonna's understanding Susan was taking a short nap, maybe 30 minutes to one hour, and she would be up to make dinner and get ready for the next day, which was Monday.

“Nothing seemed unusual that day. The family seemed happy, Josh seemed attentive to Susan. He played with the kids while Susan and I finished up with the yarn. He noticed she was chilled before brunch and brought her a blanket. He did the dishes so we could visit and finish with the yarn.”

JoVonna said one of the most important things to Susan as a mom was stability in her children’s lives. She felt they needed a routine they could count on, being only 2 and 4 years old.

JoVonna told Josh after Susan went missing that she knew how important this was to Susan. She said the week after Susan went missing Josh did put the children back in preschool/daycare for a week.

“I don’t see him looking for a job. Honestly, I think he feels more secure with his father there to shield him,” Owings said.

“I didn’t know them all that well as a couple so I can’t say if it was normal or not for him to take the kids camping. But I can say if it were me and my husband had wanted to take my kids camping in the middle of a snowstorm and in the middle of the night, I would have said ‘No way!’ From what I remember, when Josh did things with the kids he wasn’t gone very long.”

“A neighbor reported he heard the Powell’s car alarm go off at around 11 p.m. for about two minutes - that’s a very long time late at night. I’m surprised no one called the police. Women are taught to push the panic button to raise attention in an emergency situation and I have always wondered if that’s what Susan did the night she went missing.”

“I feel like Susan stepped into a black hole. I just can’t see Josh doing anything physically to hurt her. But then again people do things you wouldn’t expect them to, so who’s to say.”

“Whatever it is that’s happened to Susan, I don’t believe it something she’s doing. It’s something being done to her. She wouldn’t leave her kids - it’s not in her to walk away from her children.”
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d30-JoVonna-Owings-clears-up-a-misconception-about-the-day-Susan-Powell-disappea


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on January 30, 2010, 07:30:49 PM
spring is coming soon, i have emailed some people that mine an treasure hunt in utah,
about this case, some not all said they would be on the watch, for a body, and they
told me some of the terrain is rough, you could go not far off a major road, drop a
body over the side of a canyon, and nature would take care of the rest, and since it was winter and when the snow melts and moves downward so does the debris.
some of the drops are steep, and then the veg. grows back and covers everything
i just dont think josh was smart enough for these types of details, unless he planned ahead
which it sounds like he didnt......or maybe he wants it to look that way


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 30, 2010, 07:43:40 PM
Comments on: Police seize Joshua Powell's van, family member says

http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=14297167&PageIndex=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 31, 2010, 10:33:52 AM
LE returned the van last evening.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 31, 2010, 02:03:33 PM
Idiots  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on January 31, 2010, 02:12:15 PM
The LDS is involved here.. I deal with them all the time in the Boy Scouts of America.
Lots of Giggly stupid fools in that group.. There rules become a limitation and lack common sense in many cases.
 
 LE in this case are stepping gently so as not to destroy this case against her husband.

IF Susan is alive ..produce her.
IF NOT then they are seeing to it that the culprit gets away with murder in my humble opinion.
Time destroys evidence and witness accounts.
jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 01, 2010, 09:39:38 AM
JoVonna Owings clears up a misconception about the day Susan Powell disappeared

January 30, 2:22 AM

JoVonna Owings and Susan Powell were friends. Owings is the last person, other than Susan’s husband, Joshua Powell, to see Susan before she went missing nearly two months ago.

Police are frustrated at the lack of cooperation from Josh and are calling him the only person of interest in this case. Police are calling this a missing person’s case with “suspicious overtones."

JoVonna said, “Susan and I knew each other from church for about a year and became close friends about a month before she went missing. I was with her on the day she disappeared and I’ve often wondered what I could have done differently, is there something I should have seen or heard that would have raised a red flag?"

“The only thing that I thought was a little unusual was that Josh took so long to prepare brunch," she said, "Susan took the kids to church in the morning and walked home around noon. I came to their house for the afternoon to spend time with the family and to help Susan untangle some yarn."

“Josh had already started cooking before we got there and didn’t have the meal ready until about 4 p.m. I just figured he didn’t have much experience in the kitchen. When we did eat it was a pleasant meal. He made us scrambled eggs with onions and bell peppers and pancakes with cream cheese.”

JoVonna remembers things went well during their late brunch and that Josh and Susan showed no signs of trouble.

“Not long after we ate Susan was tired and wanted to take a nap,” Owings said.

“One misconception I’d like to clear up is that Susan did not say she was sick and she did not appear sick. She was just tired and wanted to rest for a little while."

She went on, “Josh said he’d take the kids out sledding while she rested, and I left at the same time he and the boys left, between 5 and 5:30 p.m. on Dec. 6.”

“I never went back into Susan’s room to tell her goodbye, something I have regretted not doing. Of course I never thought that might be the last time I’d ever see her."

JoVonna said she offered to bring the yarn back that evening but Josh said no, not to worry about it because Susan wouldn't get a chance to work on it until her next days off.

It was JoVonna's understanding Susan was taking a short nap, maybe 30 minutes to one hour, and she would be up to make dinner and get ready for the next day, which was Monday.

“Nothing seemed unusual that day. The family seemed happy, Josh seemed attentive to Susan. He played with the kids while Susan and I finished up with the yarn. He noticed she was chilled before brunch and brought her a blanket. He did the dishes so we could visit and finish with the yarn.”

JoVonna said one of the most important things to Susan as a mom was stability in her children’s lives. She felt they needed a routine they could count on, being only 2 and 4 years old.

JoVonna told Josh after Susan went missing that she knew how important this was to Susan. She said the week after Susan went missing Josh did put the children back in preschool/daycare for a week.

“I don’t see him looking for a job. Honestly, I think he feels more secure with his father there to shield him,” Owings said.

“I didn’t know them all that well as a couple so I can’t say if it was normal or not for him to take the kids camping. But I can say if it were me and my husband had wanted to take my kids camping in the middle of a snowstorm and in the middle of the night, I would have said ‘No way!’ From what I remember, when Josh did things with the kids he wasn’t gone very long.”

“A neighbor reported he heard the Powell’s car alarm go off at around 11 p.m. for about two minutes - that’s a very long time late at night. I’m surprised no one called the police. Women are taught to push the panic button to raise attention in an emergency situation and I have always wondered if that’s what Susan did the night she went missing.”

“I feel like Susan stepped into a black hole. I just can’t see Josh doing anything physically to hurt her. But then again people do things you wouldn’t expect them to, so who’s to say.”

“Whatever it is that’s happened to Susan, I don’t believe it something she’s doing. It’s something being done to her. She wouldn’t leave her kids - it’s not in her to walk away from her children.”
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d30-JoVonna-Owings-clears-up-a-misconception-about-the-day-Susan-Powell-disappea


He made brunch did he serve them all individually? Susan became tired after brunch, did he put something in her food to make her sleepy? Did he poison her? Did he give something as well to his boys to knock them out for the trip to dispose of the body? No one is talking about that stain, not even to clear it. Have the LE checked to see what Josh's recent purchases were? Did he purchase over the counter sleeping aids, or some extra anti-freeze, or arsenic? Why isn't the FBI involved? Maybe LE all are part of the Latter Day Saints and they are protecting Josh. If Susan was alive why didn't she take her purse or cell phone? I am not knocking her family but if this was my daughter I would be all over Josh, I would hire a P.I., and I would be down at the police station everyday!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 01, 2010, 12:12:36 PM
another thought about the brunch her friend was at, did LE ask the friend what Susan was wearing that day? Was that outfit found in her closet or drawers?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 01, 2010, 01:43:32 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Powell-facebook-page-back-online/y6GmeIwxLkuK2PyQu7CWaA.cspx
Powell facebook page back online

Last Update: 7:06 am
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - It disappeared over the weekend, but as of Monday morning, Susan Powell's facebook page, which now boasts 45,000 members is back up and running.

Facebook removed the group page for technical reasons, but according to the Salt Lake Tribune, facebook also looked into claims that people were using the site to pose as Susan Powell.
 
Page administrators say about six people posed as Susan, and that some people even made threats against the women who helped create the group.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 01, 2010, 02:15:23 PM
It is all so unnecessary. Just drag that useless waste of oxygen husband of hers in and make him crack! POS lying poor excuse for a man ... hiding behind Daddy's coattails SOB!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 01, 2010, 03:47:32 PM
I love that kinda talk.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 01, 2010, 03:56:55 PM
Wouldn't some of the tests be done by now? At least you would think so  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on February 01, 2010, 05:36:55 PM
There has been noticeable slowness in the forum this afternoon.  The tech guy suggested I move some of the MP High Profile if they weren't so high profile any longer as refreshing while in that area might be slowing things down (since that's where most everyone is).  So I've done that and moved some down to the regular MP area.  Let's see if it helps  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 01, 2010, 06:27:51 PM
I love that kinda talk.   ::MonkeyDevil::

Me too.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on February 01, 2010, 07:03:47 PM
I love that kinda talk.   ::MonkeyDevil::

Me too.   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Me Three


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 02, 2010, 12:10:09 AM
I joined the facebook forum, but you can only say things  the person running the site allows or your post will be deleted. You are not allowed to say anything against the husband Josh, or his family, you cannot speculate, you can only say things related to bringing home a live Susan. I understand hope, but these people have their heads in the sand. They do not want to hear facts. They do not want to hear truth. They have no objectivity. I feel as if they are creating a sense of falsehood, which is unhealthy. You cannot even hint that you would hire a PI, press LE etc. We all want a live Susan but facts and truth are leaning towards something else. I guess ignorance is bliss.

I am hoping LE is holding evidence close to their vest. We should know very soon what that stain was in the carpet.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 02, 2010, 09:03:47 AM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700006396/Susan-Powells-parents-keep-hope-alive.html?linkTrack=rss-32
snipped from article:

"He's not helping," Chuck Cox said. "I mean, OK, if it's my wife and they want to know what I'm doing, I'll walk them through my day, tell them exactly where I was, whatever. If I do some crazy camping trip in the middle of the night, (I'd tell police), 'This is the road I took,' and I'll take them to where I am, I'll do whatever to get this over with and go on to the rest. He's not helping, and that's scary."


"I think (the police) investigation combined with his unwillingness to say anything, and what he is saying makes no sense at all … I think when you add those things up, if someone is pointing the finger at Josh, I think it's because he's pointing it at himself by his actions," Gifford said.

When asked if he believes Josh Powell had anything to do with Susan's disappearance, Chuck Cox simply points out that Josh was the last person to see her.

"I ask him if he knows where she is, he says, 'No,' " Chuck Cox said. "He needs to help. If he knows something, he needs to come out with it. I don't know if he does or doesn't."


I really feel for her parents, they are older and have health problems. This has been very taxing on them. I am so sorry for them. I think Chuck is starting to see Josh in a different light now.  The article mentions The Cox family had planned to hold a press conference Monday in Washington but postponed it at the last minute.

"For an investigative reason, we've been told to hold off."  I wonder what that is about?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: goodnmad on February 02, 2010, 09:53:07 AM
Pointing my finger directly at ... JOSH.  ::MonkeyMad::

Come on. What a "big man" he is to murder the mother of his children.

She gave birth to your children, Josh! At least give her the dignity of a proper burial.

Lousy, waste of space, coward. That's what he is.

This pisses me off if you couldn't tell.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 02, 2010, 11:25:22 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9541537
Missing woman's family concerned over lack of contact with kids
February 1st, 2010 @ 4:43pm
By Andrew Adams
SALT LAKE CITY -- The family of Susan Powell says it has not seen the missing woman's children for nearly a month.

Family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford told KSL Newsradio Monday the last contact came Jan. 3, and Susan's parents have little information about the boys' well-being.

"There's tremendous concern," Gifford says. "They really want to take advantage of the fact that they're just down the street. Unfortunately, that just doesn't seem to be happening."

Gifford says the Cox family has reached out to Josh Powell a few times to try to see the children.

She says, "He has declined for reasons that we don't necessarily understand."

The family is hopeful something will change soon. Gifford says Josh's sister, Jennifer Graves, last saw the boys on Jan. 22.

The Cox family is also revealing more about why a family and friends Facebook page disappeared over late last week, then reappeared over the weekend.

Gifford says the family had received several messages from Susan Powell impostors before the page was taken down.

They had also received numerous threats. While most threats pertained to the page itself, Gifford says some alluded to knowledge of what the page's administrators were doing "at all times," and made them fear for their safety. Several of the threats were passed on to local law enforcement.

Josh Powell, has shunned the spotlight, telling police he doesn't know where she is. But his bizarre behavior, and hole-filled story of a camping trip at midnight Sunday, Dec. 6, with his two young sons in the west desert during a snowstorm has positioned him as law enforcement's sole person of interest.

Officers have searched the Powell home and interviewed dozens of neighbors, friends and family members, but have made no arrest.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 02, 2010, 12:37:25 PM
Gifford says the Cox family has reached out to Josh Powell a few times to try to see the children.

She says, "He has declined for reasons that we don't necessarily understand."


Obviously, they are completely inept.
IF This family does not produce Susan then they are guilty of interference in a murder investigation and on purposely throwing LE off track.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 02, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
Kiirsi Hellewell ?

Well who knows..


Either This person needs to produce Susan or Evidence of Susan alive or this person should be arrested by LE.

IF LE believed Susan was alive they would have never taken the van last weekend with a search warrant.
jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: CarolynV on February 02, 2010, 02:23:24 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700006396/Susan-Powells-parents-keep-hope-alive.html

Crossing fingers...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 03, 2010, 01:43:12 PM
Were still waiting...

Susan's family deserves and answer.. Within hours.. Not Days, Weeks or Years.

This is a travesty.. What is worse it appears LDS Church members "lawyers" are behind hiding her husband from proper investigation. LE is having to tiptoe around. ::MonkeyMad::
He is now holding the children as shields and if he goes off the deep end he may even harm himself and them.

Who will pay the price for that ?

I am a Christian and I can't believe what I am watching.
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 03, 2010, 02:29:36 PM
The LAW should be above the Church...period!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: chi-monkey on February 03, 2010, 02:39:48 PM
Were still waiting...

Susan's family deserves and answer.. Within hours.. Not Days, Weeks or Years.

This is a travesty.. What is worse it appears LDS Church members "lawyers" are behind hiding her husband from proper investigation. LE is having to tiptoe around. ::MonkeyMad::
He is now holding the children as shields and if he goes off the deep end he may even harm himself and them.

Who will pay the price for that ?

I am a Christian and I can't believe what I am watching.
 

I agree with you Edward.  LDS protection of Josh seems to be strong, but why?  Susan was much more involved with the Church and trying to bring Josh along.  Could it be that the patriarchal system overrides all else?   

I too can't believe what we are seeing.  That we should to crafts and paint our nails for Susan's return just about sent me over the cliff.   

Please family and friends  - open your eyes and see the truth! 

Chi-M



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 03, 2010, 04:01:15 PM
I should say this..

I do not know if the church is blocking LE or Not .. It appears to me like this is happening.
We do know Josh has an attorney.
We do know Susan is missing.
We do know some family friend appears to believe and has convinced family and friends Susan is alive and wants to be left alone ? I am not sure..
We do know Josh does not want Susan's family to see there grand children.
We do know The first story stinks..

That is all I suppose I know .. If any of that is true.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 05, 2010, 05:20:05 PM
As the World Waits..

I pray her family finds answers.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: chi-monkey on February 05, 2010, 06:03:33 PM

After reading the comments section on an article in the Salt Lake City newspaper, I felt better about Susan's friends.  They said that groups are going searching every weekend and that a coordinator is charting where they have been and where to go next.    You can never be sure about "comments" but it sounded sincere.   ::MonkeyWink::

On the other hand, I do not know how to crochet finger puppets.  So disappointing. ::MonkeyNoNo::



http://www.newsrunner.com/display-article/?eUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc4.com%2Fcontent%2Fnews%2Fstate%2Fstory%2FWeek-of-service-for-Susan-Powell%2FR5h3NfSFikqjz122tFZ_kA.cspx%3Frss%3D1451&eSrc=ABC+-+KTVX+4&eTitle=Week+of+service+for+Susan+Powell

   Susan's friends are asking people to bring an item to work on to donate.  They
suggest knitting a baby hat, crocheting finger puppets, quilting or sewing.
It kicks off with a party on Monday, February 8, at 7pm in the Hunter Library
meeting room, 4740 West 4100 South in West Valley City.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: justiceforall on February 05, 2010, 08:50:43 PM
Hi monkeys,   ::MonkeyHeart::
   
Do not speak often, but I have such admiration for the incredible strength, and grace shown by the Cox family.
Yes, keep her face out there no matter what it takes. My feeling is that LE is building a very strong case. Maybe not in the time we would like---but, getting it right is far better than a quick arrest. With the wet spots, evidence from van(s), home, etc. I think we will all be happy with the outcome of this. Have never seen anyone guiltier than JP....ever!

Hello and welcome to Scared Monkeys  ::MonkeyDance::  I agree with "getting it right is far better than a quick arrest".  I'm not sure I will be happy with the outcome though.  We'll just have to wait and see. 

Since you're new, I guess you didn't realize posters have been asked not to post in colors.  It's hard on some  monkey's eyes and causes confusion as mods and admin use colors to call attention to important notes.  I've edited this post to remove the purple color.  (Even though it's my fav color...)  Again, welcome and I look forward to seeing you around the forum.  MuffyBee


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: justiceforall on February 06, 2010, 12:03:39 AM
um, OK then...I think.  then why give option of colors?  hope I as asking this correctly?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: justiceforall on February 06, 2010, 12:07:20 AM
Hope I am asking this correctly......   is bold OK?  gosh, this is hard here.  Thank you for the welcome....?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on February 06, 2010, 12:40:30 AM
um, OK then...I think.  then why give option of colors?  hope I as asking this correctly?

Hi Justice!  The option for colors remains because there are times where especially red is necessary to really get a point across.  In general though we don't want regular members using colored font as it's harder to read and sometimes people get confused and think the colored font is from a moderator. 

By the way Justice, you changed your email in your profile which automatically deactivated your account.  I reactivated it for you. 

Oh..and WELCOME!  ::MonkeyCool::

Edited to add:  Yes, bold is OK but not bolding your entire post


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: justiceforall on February 06, 2010, 01:01:45 AM
TU, Klassend,  Hate to use the cliche of lurking, but have for a long time now/almost 3 yrs (Caylee Anthony). Just wouldn't come back cause of all the pop-ups/"you ARE the "100,000" th's users!"  Now, that I am a member, not happening so much.  Have read much within these pages, and you maintain the utmost of Klass. That's a good thing Ms. Klass to my way of thinking.
Had no clue about the other colors.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on February 06, 2010, 01:11:17 AM
TU, Klassend,  Hate to use the cliche of lurking, but have for a long time now/almost 3 yrs (Caylee Anthony). Just wouldn't come back cause of all the pop-ups/"you ARE the "100,000" th's users!"  Now, that I am a member, not happening so much.  Have read much within these pages, and you maintain the utmost of Klass. That's a good thing Ms. Klass to my way of thinking.
Had no clue about the other colors.

So what do you think about this case? 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 06, 2010, 09:45:30 AM
Good morning all, and welcome justice. This case is frustrating because it is not like the Florida Sunshine Law where we are privy to everything. I am sure LE has the testing back from the stain as well as other items and perhaps they are trying to build a tight case. I get impatient but I do realize this is not like CSI. These things take alot longer to piece together. They are talking on a few other sites about Josh buying shrink wrap before Susan disappeared. I wonder if LE is aware of this and they saw or took that shrinkwrap when they were searching the home.  I also heard from a close source that Josh wanted to sell the house initially but could not without Susan's signature. Josh does not act like a man that cares for his wife. He who is a web designer hasn't made a site dedicated to Susan. He has not pleaded for her, nor searched for her. He packed and moved all of the belongings of his wife and his stuff to another state. He won't let Susan's parents see there grandchildren. These are not the signs of a man that cares about his wife. He is acting guilty and Karma has a date with him , I hope very soon.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 06, 2010, 01:28:59 PM
From BFN


Newspaper's lawyer will look at sealed documents in Susan Powell disappearance investigation


Arguments pending » Police have served at least four warrants.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_84ijlM83vuQ/Sx86Tz5E_GI/AAAAAAAAAs4/nXIO7lXo_nM/s400/powell-susan.jpg)

A judge on Friday permitted a Salt Lake Tribune attorney to view sealed documents concerning the Susan Powell police investigation.

Those documents may include search warrants, which have been shielded from public view. The Tribune has filed a lawsuit to have them disclosed.

Third District Court Judge Judith Atherton told the newspaper's attorney, Mike O'Brien, he may view the materials but cannot share or discuss them with The Tribune .

Atherton's decision came at the end of a short hearing Friday to schedule written and oral arguments for the lawsuit. The Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office has until March 5 to file a written argument for keeping the search warrants sealed and O'Brien must respond 10 days later.

Deputy District Attorney Sandi Johnson said she also will argue The Tribune does not have standing to file a lawsuit over the warrants. Atherton said Johnson may make that argument, but the judge sounded suspicious.

"The press has a pretty strong interest in access," Atherton said.

O'Brien said he needed to view sealed documents in order to argue the merits of the case.

"I'm good, but I'm much better when I know what I'm arguing against," a smiling O'Brien told Atherton.

After the hearing, O'Brien said he will view the petition, which sealed the search warrants and perhaps the search warrants themselves.

West Valley City police have served at least four search warrants in their investigation of what happened to Powell: two on the family home and car, one on the car alone and one to take biological samples from Powell's husband, Joshua Powell.

O'Brien said the Deseret News and the Society of Professional Journalists also will join the lawsuit as plaintiffs.




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 06, 2010, 01:29:46 PM
From BFN

Friends plan ‘Week of Service' in honor of Susan Powell
February 5th, 2010 @ 4:02pm
By Sandra Yi

(http://www.ksl.com/emedia/slc/1761/176148/17614898.jpg?filter=ksl/img200)

WEST JORDAN -- Friends of a missing West Valley City mother are planning a week of service in her honor. They still have hope Susan Powell is alive.
 

Kiirsi Hellewell, a friend of Susan's, says Feb. 8 through Feb. 15 will be a "Week of Service" in Susan's honor.

Hellewell went to four yarn stores Friday to drop off thousands of fliers, which were donated by some printing shops. The fliers have information about the week of service, and stores will hand them out to customers.

Hellewell says it's is a good way to remember Susan and remind the public that she is still missing.

"We just have to keep hoping," Hellewell says. "I know that her father, Chuck Cox, posted on our Facebook group a couple of days ago: We still believe Susan's alive. We still believe she's out there, and we believe that police are going to find her."

Hellewell says Susan would often make blankets and other crafts for people and would be grateful people are doing this for her.

Susan was last seen on Dec. 6 at her home in West Valley City. Police have named Susan's husband, Josh Powell, the only person of interest in this case. But there have been no arrests.

Josh moved to Washington state but came back to Utah last week. Friends and family say he is finishing his basement so he can rent out his house.

Police did a second search of Powell's car and Hellewell says he was shaken up by that.

West Valley police say there is nothing new in the investigation, but they are following up on different leads.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 06, 2010, 02:14:08 PM
I wonder where they think she is?

I wonder who they think 'took her'?

I wonder if they think she just took off and is living on an island somewhere enjoying the sunshine?? And if they think this, then when do they think she will come home?

I wonder what makes them think she is still alive?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 06, 2010, 03:01:49 PM
I wonder where they think she is?

I wonder who they think 'took her'?

I wonder if they think she just took off and is living on an island somewhere enjoying the sunshine?? And if they think this, then when do they think she will come home?

I wonder what makes them think she is still alive?
It doesn't make much sense, but maybe they need to think that way to get through a day? Her family must know she wouldn't have just taken off and let her children be cared for by that loser Josh  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 06, 2010, 08:36:35 PM
did i read someplace that josh is a convert to LDS

i was thinking on the church and his faith, could it be that the
ultimatum, by susan is what broke him. LDS is considered a cult
type of faith, by mainstream christianity. IE: king james version
of the bible doctrine. i think if i was ,of one faith, then converted/or was
trying to convert to mormonism, no matter how much you love them, and
your faith is so ingrained as a part of your being, so maybe he perceived
susans ultimatum,  as a threat and that , with a conflict of faith
might have sent him over the edge. people do some
strange things for/because of their faith. just thinking out loud, for a reason
why, and assuming josh killed her, this assumption might explain why josh
does not want the Gparents to see the boys, and why the LE are having
a hard time with josh, and determining his involvement, im sure that some of LE
in utah are mormons. the link i posted, that paper is owned by the church of LDS
over the years i/and im sure others have read some strange things about the LDS
just trying to understand the madness
snip
Petersen said the Powells' marriage counselor instructed Susan Powell to set specific goals. Susan Powell told her husband that her goal was for him to become active in the church again by the end of 2009 and to have his temple recommend again by their anniversary in the spring. Otherwise, she was going to divorce him and take the children, Petersen said.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353673/Friend-Powell-took-time-getting-home.html?pg=2
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 07, 2010, 12:12:45 AM

The Role of Women in Mormonism

Many religions have recently begun changing in an attempt to equalize the roles and responsibilities of men and women. Mormonism is one of the exceptions. The Mormon position on women has changed little since the early 1800's, when the official view was that "woman's primary place is in the home, where she is to rear children and abide by the righteous counsel of her husband" (McConkie 844). This attitude, coupled with the doctrine of polygamy and the absolute power claimed by the men of the church, created a legacy of profound sexism which modern Mormonism has been unable to escape.

Mormonism has created an ingenious system of oppression, in which opposition towards men is tantamount to arguing with God. The Mormon religion makes no distinction between clergy and laity, at least with regard to men (Laake 9). All Mormon men are ordained as members of the "priesthood," with the absolute authority to preach the gospel, bestow blessings, prophecy, perform healings and baptisms, and generally speak for God. "Their priesthood gives them the right to advise and instruct the Saints (i.e., Mormons), and their jurisdiction extends over all things spiritual and temporal" (Snowden 134).

At age twelve, boys become members of the Aaronic, or lesser priesthood, and at nineteen become eligible for the Melchezedek, or higher priesthood. Members of either priesthood are higher authorities on everything than are non-members. Women are, of course, excluded from the priesthood. This practice in effect says that a woman's prepubescent son is more qualified to advise her than she is to advise him. The official explanation is that women are kept from having the priesthood because women are more spiritual than men, therefore, men need to have the priesthood to teach them how to be better people (Johnson 86). Women are also told that, because they have the all- important ability to bear children, men need the power of the priesthood merely to remain equal with them.

http://www.exmormon.org/mormwomn.htm


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 07, 2010, 09:30:53 AM
Good Morning all.       ::MonkeyBike::
 Thanks Edward fro the information on the role of women as Mormons. All religions fascinate me.  Although more people throughout history have died in the name of religious differences because they cannot agree to disagree. Very sad. I consider myself spiritual and try not to follow any conformed religion, but I believe in God. I do not knock anyone's religious views or choices I accept them as an individual choice and would hope they would accept mine.  The role of the Mormon women helps explain their FB page Edward.  They are sticking within the boundaries of their religion.  As far as the family keeping hope that Susan is alive is probably a coping mechanism. Logically we all know she didn't just walk away from 2 beautiful boys that she loved and cared for. She also would not put her parents through this. They are older and not in the best of health, what loving daughter would put her family and friends through this? I hope LE is continuing to gather information. There is no way anyone of them can possibly believe she is alive. The car alarm going off with the car in the garage at 11:45 the last night she was seen was probably her calling for help. I wonder if her children heard anything that night like a fight between her parents. Why were all of the lights off, and then Josh says he left around midnight for a camping trip?  I know all of this has been discussed before so I am sorry if I sound redundant. I just wish LE would push harder. Talk to the children again. Find out what Josh was doing the weeks following up to Susan's disappearance.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ISpy on February 09, 2010, 01:55:08 AM
**Prefacing this**  I am in no way supportive of Josh Powell.

Edward- Excellent and informative post above!

Just adding an aside here...Things LDS missionaries don't tell you at the door.  Only LDS members in good standing with a Temple recommend are eligible to be married in a Mormon Temple.  During the Mormon Temple Marriage Ceremony, the husband stands behind a veil, symbolizing passing from the physical world into eternity.  One of the most important aspects of that ceremony is that brides are given "secret names", by which their husbands will call them into eternity.  This ritual is evidenced during the ceremony, with the husband symbolically pulling his wife through a "veil" curtain.  LDS teaches that husbands will call their wives into eternity.  The implication being that if a husband is displeased with his wife/she is "disobedient" (by his standards), he simply will not call her into her into eternity.  "The Blessings of Eternal Marriage President Lorenzo Snow taught: “When two Latter-day Saints are united together in marriage, promises are made to them concerning their offspring that reach from eternity to eternity. They are promised that they shall have the power and the right to govern and control and administer salvation and exaltation and glory to their offspring, worlds without end. And what offspring they do not have here, undoubtedly there will be opportunities to have them hereafter. What else could man wish? A man and a woman, in the other life, having celestial bodies, free from sickness and disease, glorified and beautified beyond description, standing in the midst of their posterity, governing and controlling them, administering life, exaltation and glory worlds without end” (Deseret News, 13 Mar. 1897; quoted by Spencer W. Kimball in The Miracle of Forgiveness [1969], 246). "  http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=fb427befabc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD (http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=fb427befabc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD)

Husbands and wives in good standing with Temple recommends usually arrange a "Sealing" ceremony, also done in the Temple.  In short, LDS believes that the family will be sealed together for "Time and all Eternity".  However, should a family member stray from LDS doctrine/church attendance (see list of meetings here , 243–44.) One of the decisions we make is to be married in the temple for eternity. Those who make and keep the covenant of eternal marriage will be united with their families for eternity."  [url]http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/132/15-17#15]http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=87807befabc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD[/url) /written ordinances (such as prohibition of the use of caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, etc.)/neglect paying their tithes/neglecting to observe Family Home Night each week or send child(ren) before school to LDS lessons or volunteer often enough to serve in a church capacity (Relief Society, Priesthood or calling, teach Nursery/Primary/etc.) /dating a non-LDS person/failing to observe monthly fasting and paying the fasting tithe/etc., that family member may not "make it" to the same level of heaven as the rest of the family and be separated from them for "Time and all Eternity".  LDS teaches there are 3 levels of heaven: "After we have been resurrected we will go to one of three kingdoms of glory. We must make righteous decisions, continually repent, and follow Heavenly Father’s commandments throughout our lives to enter into the highest kingdom. (See Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness [1969], 243–44.) One of the decisions we make is to be married in the temple for eternity. Those who make and keep the covenant of eternal marriage will be united with their families for eternity."  [url]http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/132/15-17#15 (http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=87807befabc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD[/url) /written ordinances (such as prohibition of the use of caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, etc.)/neglect paying their tithes/neglecting to observe Family Home Night each week or send child(ren) before school to LDS lessons or volunteer often enough to serve in a church capacity (Relief Society, Priesthood or calling, teach Nursery/Primary/etc.) /dating a non-LDS person/failing to observe monthly fasting and paying the fasting tithe/etc., that family member may not "make it" to the same level of heaven as the rest of the family and be separated from them for "Time and all Eternity".  LDS teaches there are 3 levels of heaven: "After we have been resurrected we will go to one of three kingdoms of glory. We must make righteous decisions, continually repent, and follow Heavenly Father’s commandments throughout our lives to enter into the highest kingdom. (See Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness [1969).  Unless you have been LDS or really know someone LDS, you have no idea what kind of fear that threat inspires.  I had a close LDS friend (child of a Stake President) who made the mistake of becoming involved with a non-LDS person.  My friend had been questioning the validity of the LDS for a year or so.  Long story short, my friend came home from work one evening to find they had been cut out of the family picture left lying on their bed by their parents.  Not long after that, my friend disappeared for awhile and returned home a very obedient LDS member.

Was it the perceived threat of losing his children that may have caused Josh to allegedly kill Susan?  Utah is still primarily a Mormon/LDS state, as evidenced by the slant of many local newspapers' articles.  Utah only publicly denounced polygamy in order to gain statehood.  The state was built upon the principles of mormonism (later renamed Latter Day Saints).  The state, as a whole, has neither renounced mormonism nor cut it's political and social ties to mormonism.  It's institutions are LDS-friendly/sensitive.  Where does that leave people like Josh, when it comes to determining custody of LDS children in divorce proceedings?  People who do not live in Utah and are not LDS have a hard time grasping how ingrained LDS teachings are in the culture of Utah in 2010.

"We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.

"We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society."  http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=9e96be335dc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD (http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=9e96be335dc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=198bf4b13819d110VgnVCM1000003a94610aRCRD)

**In the event that the verifying documentation would be removed from my post, you can find supporting links to most of the LDS doctrine at www.lds.org, with the exception of the "secret" Temple Marriage ceremony (see www.exmormon.org)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ISpy on February 09, 2010, 01:59:07 AM
I apologize to fellow monkeys who are bothered by the color, for the colored text in my above post.  The colored sections were copied directly from the LDS website and I didn't know how to "uncolor" them.  My apologies.

MODS:  If anyone can fix this for me, I would be very grateful.  I'm sorry if this creates additional work for you.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 09, 2010, 08:18:18 AM
good morning ::HelloKitty::  Thanks for the info. Ispy.  Wow is all I can say.The religion dictates their life as do many other religions. I wish Susan's parents would hire a PI to investigate what went on the weeks leading up to this. Are Susan's parents morman? I don't know if it is said anywhere. Thanks in advance.  Wish I knew a pro bono PI like the one in Baby Gabriels case. But maybe a PI would not want to go up against LDS church in this matter. From what it looks like and this is merely speculation, the church can make things quietly go away without a trace.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 09, 2010, 10:00:29 AM
I apologize to fellow monkeys who are bothered by the color, for the colored text in my above post.  The colored sections were copied directly from the LDS website and I didn't know how to "uncolor" them.  My apologies.

MODS:  If anyone can fix this for me, I would be very grateful.  I'm sorry if this creates additional work for you.  Thank you.

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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 09, 2010, 06:14:04 PM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Susan-Powells-parents-have-a-message-for-Josh/V9UjCSrVaUSnVub2mVQ9gQ.cspx
February 9, 2010 - 5:11 PM
Susan Powell's parents have a message for Josh
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 2:38 am
PUYALLUP, Washington (ABC 4 News) - Parents to son-in-law: It's time to stop hiding and start cooperating with police as they search for Susan.  That's the essence of the message the Cox family has for Josh Powell, the husband of Susan Powell who disappeared from her West Valley home on Monday, December 7, 2009.

The last two months for the Cox family have been, to say the least, difficult. Her mother, Judy Cox said, "I wake up depressed when I realize that it is real. It's not a dream." She fights through the depression by keeping busy -- mostly helping others -- a trait she said was picked up by her daughter.

Both believe that Susan is still alive. "She's out there, somewhere," said Judy. Her husband Chuck Cox added, "I just have not felt that she's gone. And I think I'd know that."

But mixed with their hope is a growing concern for Susan's two young boys and frustration with her husband.

When news of Susan Powell's disappearance spread, the Cox family was careful not to put pressure on Josh or criticize him publicly. Despite the seemingly incredible tale he told of taking his little boys camping in the middle of the night and during a winter storm, they refused to point fingers.
But in the interview conducted by ABC 4 for the two month anniversary of her disappearance, their tone had changed. They are alarmed by Josh Powell's lack of cooperation with West Valley Police. Chuck Cox said, "He asked me if I understood. Basically he said, 'You understand?' And I said, 'No, no I don't.' Because I don't understand. He's got an attorney now. He's the last person who saw my daughter -- his wife -- alive ... He's got to know something. He's got to help out. He's thrown a roadblock without his cooperation."

Chuck Cox pointed to a story he was told by Ed Smart. Early in the investigation of the kidnapping of his daughter, Elizabeth, police started to target him. "And he didn't like it," Chuck said remembering the story. "But he went into the police and did whatever they asked (him) to do until he got himself cleared. And then he went on to find his daughter. He went on looking for his daughter."

The Cox family expects Josh to do the same. But when ABC 4 asked if they believed Josh had thus far done anything to find his wife, Chuck answered, "Not that I'm aware of." And Judy said simply, "No."

Chuck Cox said the lines of communication remain open with Josh. He said, "I can talk to him. Right now I could probably talk to him about his car or the weather or whatever and it would be fine. But as soon as I go toward anything ... 'Well, can you tell me anything at all?' I get shut out immediately. As far as I know, everyone has."

What's more, Susan's parents have not been allowed to see their grandchildren since January 3, 2010. "I've asked, and I was told no," Chuck said. Now Josh will only allow visitations at his father's house, something that Chuck said was unacceptable, "We would like to see them more. We prefer to see them over here just 'cause it's awkward. Josh hasn't helped. And I don't know what's going on there."

For now, Judy and Chuck Cox know there is little they can do about any of it. "I can't force him to talk to police. I can't force him to let us see the children," said Chuck. "It's just beyond my control right now. All we can do is be patient and pray."
In the last two months both their faith and patience have been tried, but Chuck said they're still fighting because they believe Susan is still fighting. "She's a fighter. She hasn't given up. We know that."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 10, 2010, 02:06:48 PM
I hope there is too much snow and if not I hope it is too cold to pour concrete during his 'home improvements' ...they better be watching, although I doubt they are.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 10, 2010, 05:36:53 PM
I hope there is too much snow and if not I hope it is too cold to pour concrete during his 'home improvements' ...they better be watching, although I doubt they are.

it can be done, $$$ are usually the factor for cold weather pouring
like youll going to sell the house ,and want it on the market, ASAP
or your trying to meet an over due contract

Instructions, middle of pg
http://www.ehow.com/how_4815188_pour-concrete-cold-weather.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 10, 2010, 05:42:46 PM
edwards post
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6666.msg1068490#msg1068490

from edwards post
A judge on Friday permitted a Salt Lake Tribune attorney to view sealed documents concerning the Susan Powell police investigation.

not sure i understand why he got to see the documents
what pupose does this serve, as they are trying to get the
documents unsealed, im not getting the concept i guess





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: FlGRLFVR29 on February 11, 2010, 11:46:30 AM
wow... it must be nice to just  dispose of someone and continue to live your life freely, the simple fact that he went camping in the middle of the night during a winter month with a toddler sends up a  major red flag....

and then moved far away and the fact that he is showing no remorse??

and if he is considered a person of interest WHY IN THE HECK DOES HE STILLLLLL HAVE CUSTODY OF HIS KIDS???? that to me is just ludacris.... those poor babies they will be next


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on February 12, 2010, 12:31:39 AM
The Susan Powell you don't know

PUYALLUP, Washington (ABC 4 News) - Talking about a sister and daughter who has been missing now for more than two months is difficult.  But Susan Powell's family sat down with ABC 4 because there are things about her that they want you to know.

Describing Susan's personality, her mother, Judy Cox said,  "Bubbly, outgoing, smiles. She likes to smile. She likes to laugh or giggle... Have fun."  Chuck Cox, her father, added, "She’s just happy all the time." Marie Moniz, Susan’s younger sister agreed, "She was very welcoming to people. She didn't like people to be left out."

From the 3rd grade on, Susan was raised in Puyallup, Washington. The family of four daughters moved into a house in a small subdivision with nearly an acre lot filled with and surrounded by trees.

Older sister Denise Gordon remembers they didn’t need to go far to have an adventure. To the kids, their backyard seemed a deep, dark forest. "We had a camper trailer in the back yard. We'd sleep out there all summer," said Denise.

Marie remembers going to Rogers High School with Susan. "When we got into High School and Jr High she was my buddy." Susan’s parents said she was a good student who sang in the concert choir and learned sign language.

Years later while in Poland on a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Marie remembers receiving a videotape with Susan signing a Christmas greeting. She said, "I was just kind of lonely and down. And I remember I just saw that and it made me laugh. I watched it again and again and again."

Video from other Christmas celebrations in the Cox home showed the same, jubilant older sister. Marie said, "She's a very upbeat person. She's always been that way."

Marie’s wedding in June of 2008 was the last time all four sisters were together.

Denise speaks of wishing they'd had more time together that wedding day.  Susan came to her house, but the visit was short.  "It was hard. She (Susan) only stayed for a half hour or hour that day. There was a lot of regret. We should have made the time."

Josh Powell entered Susan’s life after High School. They both attended an LDS singles ward in Tacoma. Judy Cox remembers, "Courtship from meeting to marriage was five months. It was ... Short." Chuck Cox added, "I asked the standard questions. He had a job. He was going to college. He had his own apartment. And he had his own car."

Susan and Josh Powell were married in April of 2001 in the LDS temple in Portland, Oregon.

The family recalls that the young couple bounced around from place to place early in their marriage. At one point, they were resident managers of an assisted living facility in Yakima, Washington. Chuck said every move seemed to start and end with Josh’s discontent. "Josh was having trouble finding a job that was suiting him," he said. "Josh had some issues."

The couple moved to West Valley City in 2004. Susan disappeared the night of December 6, 2009.

Her disappearance has widened the divide that seems to have already existed between Josh and many of Susan’s family and friends. His lack of cooperation with the ongoing police investigation has frustrated them.

Darleen Allen lives near the Cox family in Puyallup and is a close friend of the sisters – especially Susan. Darleen said, "It does hurt. It frustrates me because we all want Susan back. We all want to know what happened. We want to know."

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/The-Susan-Powell-you-dont-know/Bn4gzlxWDU2uDHd_Azu0qA.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ISpy on February 15, 2010, 01:00:45 AM
Just thinking out loud here...I'm wondering if the reason Susan's parents/family/church friends have been careful not to really confront Josh is because of the LDS belief system, that Josh has the "authority" to choose whether or not to call Susan into a particular level of heaven (see my previous post « Reply #849 on: February 09, 2010, 12:55:08 AM »).  From articles I've read, there seems to almost be a reluctance (or is it fear) in confronting Josh.  Her family and their church friends/neighbors for the most part seem almost complacent.  Their reactions seem somewhat abnormal (stilted, maybe), compared to Josh's obviously illogical story of the events the night their daughter disappeared. Most of the men/fathers I know would be highly confrontational and have very pointed remarks for and about Joshua Powell.  Am I missing something? I can understand trying to keep things on a fairly even keel since Josh does have custody of their grandchildren (and may have killed their mom), but you'd think they'd be a tad more strident in their tone.  Wouldn't waking your children in the middle of the night, driving them out to a freezing desert to go camping in the middle of a snow storm, and failing to report for work the next day constitute negligence at the very least?

Oops!  Hello, everyone!  Sorry to post and run, trying to play catch up tonight.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 15, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
http://www.mormontimes.com/people_news/newsmakers/?id=13070

Holding onto hope: the search for Susan Powell

By Pat Reavy
Deseret News
Friday, Jan. 29, 2010


WEST VALLEY CITY -- It's been almost two months since Susan Powell disappeared.

Reminders that the mother of two is still missing can still be found around her home.

A "missing" poster is taped to the front doorway. Shards of broken glass and a window screen remain underneath the now-fixed front window where police originally had to break in on the day she was reported missing.

But friends and family members continue to hold out hope she is alive.

"We want Susan to come home, and the best thing is to keep her face and her name out there ... just like Elizabeth Smart," said Jennifer Graves, sister of Susan Powell's husband, Josh Powell.

On Wednesday, Susan's friends returned to her vacant house to hang purple ribbons and streamers.

Two large signs saying, "We Will Find You" and "We Will Bring You Home" were posted on the front lawn while smaller signs were hung on the garage.

Messages like, "We love you Susan," "Millions of people are praying for you" and "Lost but not forgotten" were posted around the house where Powell was last seen on Dec. 7.

Friends say campaigns like decorating Powell's house help them feel like they are contributing and doing something to help find her, because, as one neighbor said, "There is very little in our control right now."

"The stress of, 'I can't do anything,' is enough to destroy you. Little things like this are enough to do a lot for those who are still holding on," Kirk Graves, Josh Powell's brother-in-law, said.

Police call Susan Powell's disappearance suspicious and her husband, Josh Powell, a person of interest.

Josh has also been the focus of ever-increasing speculation and scrutiny about what he knows and, according to police, why he won't fully cooperate with them.

Josh Powell told police he went camping with their two sons, who turned 3 and 5 this month, in a remote area of Tooele County at midnight on Dec. 7. When he returned the next day, his wife was gone.

Since then, he has lost his job and moved all of his belongings to Washington to live with his parents. Family members say Josh Powell has told them he planned to return to Utah to fix up his house before putting it on the market to sell, though there was no indication when that might be.

On Wednesday, Jennifer Graves and her husband, Kirk, were among those hanging signs and ribbons at Susan's house.

Kirk Graves said his family went to Washington last Friday and had dinner with Josh Powell and his sons.

"We had a great time spending time with the boys," he said.

During dinner that night, Graves said the topic of Susan and her disappearance was not discussed. Asked whether he talked about Susan with Josh after dinner, Graves declined to answer.

But when speaking about Josh Powell, both Jennifer and Kirk's tones sound increasingly disappointed.

Jennifer Graves said Powell's attitude and demeanor toward her and her husband has completely changed since Susan disappeared. While Powell used to very talkative every time he was around, he now rarely talks to them at all.

Furthermore, they don't believe he has done all he can to help find his missing wife.

"I've been disappointed with his efforts. He hasn't put enough effort in, in my opinion," Jennifer Graves said. "He's chosen to work away from the media, which is our biggest tool right now."

"He has not told police anything except the basics," Kirk Graves said. "Every little thing that comes to our minds, we pass along. He hasn't passed anything along. ... I know where I'd be if it was my wife."

When asked if Powell may simply be in shock over his wife's disappearance, Graves said, "Anything is possible, I can't pretend I understand Josh's mind, but anything is possible."

As for the Powells' two young boys, Jennifer Graves said they are, for the most part, fine.

"They are aware she is lost, that is what they've been told. Other than that, they seem to be OK," she said.

Wednesday, about a dozen adults and a dozen children spent the morning decorating the front of the Powell house.

"I don't think she's been forgotten. We haven't forgotten, Graves said.

"If she comes back alive, we're going to have the state's biggest party," said friend Kiirsi Hellewell.

Friends and family say they are doing their best to have their lives return somewhat to a normal routine. But it isn't easy as long as Susan is still missing.

"It's going to be a while before it gets back to normal," Jennifer Graves said. "Just keep looking. Keep looking for her."



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E-mail: preavy@desnews.com





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 15, 2010, 04:03:19 PM
They need to stop smelling roses in their sleep and WAKE UP !

Of course that is just my opinion..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 15, 2010, 06:18:49 PM
Hi All  ::HelloKitty::  The family will be on Dr. Phil tomorrow. Should be an interesting program. I hope some good questions are asked. I agree Ed, hope is important but being realistic is also.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on February 15, 2010, 06:25:46 PM
Here is the link

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m2d13-Press-Release-Dr-Phil-talks-to-Susan-Powells-family-together-on-stage-for-the-first-time

TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME ON ONE STAGE, SUSAN POWELL’S PARENTS AND SISTER-IN-LAW TALK TO DR. PHIL.

Dr. Phil issued a press release today stating Chuck and Judy Cox, parents of missing Utah mother Susan Powell, along with her sister-in-law, appear together for the first time on one stage when they sit down to talk with Dr. Phil next Tuesday, February 16 (check local listings).

Chuck Cox, Susan's father, said, “We are absolutely convinced that our daughter would not let the kids out at that time of the morning without her with them. If there was breath in her body she would not have let them out. I don’t think any mother would.”

Powell was last seen just after midnight on Monday, December 7, 2009, by her husband, Josh, who claims to have taken their two young sons on a midnight camping trip high in the mountains, two hours outside of Salt Lake City.

By the time they returned home later that same evening, Susan Powell had already been reported missing by her concerned sister-in-law.

A police search of the house discovered Susan’s keys, purse and cell phone all left behind.

Josh is now a person of interest in the case, but after very limited conversations with police, he is not talking to anyone.

His behavior has shocked and frustrated those close to the family, including his own sister, Jennifer.

“I’m kind of caught in the middle. My brother is a person of interest, but my sister-in-law, my good friend is missing,” said Jennifer. “What has bothered me the most [is that] he has been reluctant to participate in the media arena, that’s our biggest tool in helping to find Susan. You are the husband! There is more that you can do! So get up and do it!” She added, “I asked him if he was involved and he wouldn’t respond...he literally doesn’t say anything…[he said] ‘my lawyer said not to talk to anyone.’”

Chuck Cox added, “In the beginning I wanted to be supportive, I believed that there would be a reasonable explanation…but as my son-in-law shut down [it became] really hard to keep positive. It’s frustrating, he won’t cooperate with the police and that’s impeding the investigation and it’s stopping us from finding my daughter.”

Also appearing on the program is Ed Smart, whose daughter Elizabeth’s tragic abduction and miraculous recovery made national headlines in 2002.

As is typical with almost all missing person cases, family members are often the first to be investigated and questioned and such was the case with Smart.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 15, 2010, 07:16:15 PM
They need to stop smelling roses in their sleep and WAKE UP !

Of course that is just my opinion..

and mine ;)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 15, 2010, 09:05:47 PM
They need to stop smelling roses in their sleep and WAKE UP !

Of course that is just my opinion..

and mine ;)
And mine also  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on February 15, 2010, 10:52:21 PM
Triple ditto.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Lifesong on February 16, 2010, 01:35:08 AM

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Susan-Powells-family-Josh-abused-her/Sx5zeHgtuEOB0EzmY-gchw.cspx


Susan Powell's family: Josh abused her


Written by: Dan Metcalf Jr.
Email: dan.metcalf@abc4.com
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 2/15 10:59 pm 

PUYALLUP, Wa. (ABC 4 News) - Friends and family of Susan Powell said in a news conference Monday that Josh Powell is an abusive husband.

Through family friend and spokesperson Shelby Gifford, Susan's family members revealed that Josh Powell had been abusing her for years.

Gifford said the abuse was mostly emotional in nature, but family members say Susan told one of them about at least one instance of physical abuse.  They did not offer further details about the physical abuse, only to say that the police were not called and did not Susan seek medical help.

The Cox family says Josh was very controlling of Susan, and limited her access to the couple's bank account, even though Susan was the primary breadwinner in the family in the past year. Gifford said Josh often changed the PIN number for the ATM on their account.

Gifford also said Josh would not allocate enough money for Susan to buy groceries, which caused her to become a gardener to provide enough food for the children and herself.

Gifford said the couple had been getting counseling, and that Susan made an April 6, 2010 deadline of leaving Josh if he did not mend his abusive ways. April 6th is Josh and Susan's wedding anniversary.

Susan's parents Charles and Judy Cox said they want Josh to come clean and cooperate with investigators, because they believe he knows something about her disappearance.

The family also announced the formation of the Susan Cox Powell Foundation, dedicated to assisting in those suffering from domestic abuse.

Josh Powell is now living in his father's house in Washington state not far from where the Cox family press conference was held.  ABC 4 went by the house in an attempt to talk to Josh and get his response to the allegations, but we were turned away at the door.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Lifesong on February 16, 2010, 01:43:48 AM



BLOCKED WEBSITE



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Jennifer34 on February 16, 2010, 12:40:31 PM
Remember Jessie Davis's son had a lot to say!  Mommy is in the rug .... or something to that effect.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Jennifer34 on February 16, 2010, 12:45:49 PM
I dont know how to delete my above comment.  I posted it in the wrong place.  My point was regarding questioning the 4 year old.  Mods, you can delete both of these.  I cant find where I even thought I was posting too, sorry.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 16, 2010, 03:24:07 PM
Updated Feb 16, 2010 - 8:39 am
Missing woman's family demands answers from son-in-law

Relatives of a former Puyallup woman are losing patience with the missing woman's husband and they're demanding their son-in-law explain his wife's disappearance.

"I do believe he knows something he's not telling us," said Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox.

It's been more than two months since Powell disappeared from her home near Salt Lake City. Until now, her father has been careful not to accuse his son-in-law, who claims his wife disappeared while he and their two young sons were camping.

"I'm not buying this story that he gave the police and I'm waiting for the rest of the story and for him to cooperate and help us find our daughter," said Cox.

"I find it very disturbing that he won't speak up or say anything...and that he doesn't seem to show concern, love, or care," said Susan's mother, Judy Cox.

Friends and relatives say Susan Powell was a victim of emotional and, in one case, physical abuse. They say she was planning to leave her husband in April. Judy Cox says until her daughter's body is found, she'll believe that Susan is still alive.

Today (Tuesday, February 16), the family appears on the Dr. Phil Show.

While police investigate Susan Powell's disappearance in Utah, her family is organizing a non-profit group to help others in a similar crisis.

"We believe that there are things we can do to help women and families who endure this same kind of struggle. We didn't feel that we should wait for Susan to be found before we got started," said family spokesperson Shelby Gifford.

Gifford said the Susan Cox Powell Foundation will provide a clearinghouse of resources about missing people and support the prevention of domestic violence.

http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=284896


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 16, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
Oh so Now they are gonna get mad..  ::MonkeyMad::

Talk about shutting the barn door after the cattle have already gotten out.. ::MonkeyNoNo::

This man could possibly kill himself and his children.
They should have grabbed the kids while they had the chance.
Who knows what is going on in that brilliant mind at this moment.
When reality hits depression sets in.
What then ? These people better get some back bone.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: texasmom on February 16, 2010, 04:59:50 PM
Dr. Phil covered Susan's case today.  I missed about the first 25 minutes.  But what I have seen has been very good.

It has been repeatedly stated that Josh is not behaving like an innocent person.

Another man was on the show who believes his son in law murdered his daughter 14 years ago.  He told Susan's parents to not let anyone interfere with their being involved in Susan's children's lives.  He'd listened to the police and others and because of it he hasn't seen his grandchildren in over three years now.  He reminded them that THEY are the only link those children will have to their mother and to keep them from forgetting what a wonderful person she is/was by talking to them about her, showing them pictures...etc.

Ed Smart (father of Elizabeth Smart) came on by satellite and said a few words.  He stated that Josh's behavior was strange too.  He has been in contact with Susan's parents on other occasions since she disappeared.

I wish I'd seen the whole show!



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 16, 2010, 07:04:16 PM
Can you watch the whole thing here??
http://drphil.com/shows/show/1396



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 17, 2010, 01:22:01 PM
I no longer think she was attacked by her husband..


She was drugged up by her husband when he served food earlier to her and her friend..
She went to take a nap... Never woke up.. Was put into the vehicle without a fight, as she was asleep in the vehicle and the kids were also sound asleep and by the time they woke up she was placed elsewhere..

He is in control of the family..She wanted to destroy the family.. He made sure she did not destroy the family.. He is now the family and she is under something.
He is again in control..

Take away his control !! 

Social Services needs to Take the kids !! 
I never thought I would write that..  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 17, 2010, 05:14:10 PM
I no longer think she was attacked by her husband..


She was drugged up by her husband when he served food earlier to her and her friend..
She went to take a nap... Never woke up..
Was put into the vehicle without a fight, as she was asleep in the vehicle and the kids were also sound asleep and by the time they woke up she was placed elsewhere..

He is in control of the family..She wanted to destroy the family.. He made sure she did not destroy the family.. He is now the family and she is under something.
He is again in control..

Take away his control !! 

Social Services needs to Take the kids !! 
I never thought I would write that..  ::MonkeyGavel::

i think your right edward, and she prob never knew what was or did happen to her
snipped

“Not long after we ate Susan was tired and wanted to take a nap,” Owings said.

“One misconception I’d like to clear up is that Susan did not say she was sick and she did not appear sick. She was just tired and wanted to rest for a little while."
from
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6666.msg1064369#msg1064369


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 17, 2010, 06:00:53 PM
JOSH POWELL REALTOR
http://www.nexport.com/company.cfm?company=1289871_JOSH_POWELL_REALTOR_REAL_ESTATE_SALT_LAKE_CITY_UT

his url got parked
http://www.joshpowell.com/?b4c749c0

will sell his own home im guessing


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on February 17, 2010, 06:07:50 PM
 ::HelloKitty::  Fanny Mae


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 17, 2010, 07:00:21 PM
I do not believe that he is a real estate agent  ::MonkeyNoNo:: That site has to belong to another Josh Powell.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 17, 2010, 07:02:05 PM
If he has/had a realtor's license, then imo she would not have been 'the breadwinner' of the family...he would have been... and we know he wasn't.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 17, 2010, 07:39:41 PM
i think its him, remember the market was falling from 2008-09, and im sure that had an impact on Business


Susan M Powell
6254 Sarah Cir

Salt Lake City, UT 84128-7069

(801)xxx-xxxx

Age: 25-29
Household:  Josh S Powell


http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?site_id=10583&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=susan&name=powell&where=84128

-----------------------------

in the upper left corner, their addy

6254 SARAH CIR
SALT LAKE CITY, UT
84128-7069
Phone: 801-xxx-xxxx
URL: www.joshpowellrealtor.com

https://secure.utah.gov/rer/relv
----------------------------------
License Status Active
Original Issue Date 11/12/2008 
Expiration Date 09/30/2010 
at this link, and im sure you see something else of interest too

https://secure.utah.gov/rer/relv?page=page.search.details&id=3464809


Edit:  Ph. #'s MB


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 17, 2010, 07:56:19 PM
im sorry i have a mean azz backache, it should be this link


in the upper left corner, their addy

6254 SARAH CIR
SALT LAKE CITY, UT
84128-7069
Phone: 801-xxx-xxxx
URL: www.joshpowellrealtor.com

https://secure.utah.gov/rer/relv


http://www.nexport.com/company.cfm?company=1289871_JOSH_POWELL_REALTOR_REAL_ESTATE_SALT_LAKE_CITY_UT

Edit: Ph. #'s MB


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 17, 2010, 08:50:19 PM
He is pretty smart...
1. He has witness to her being healthy but tired after dinner.
      He prepared dinner and could control the intake.
2. She is not dead but drugged Asleep and so the car alarm is simply because he was in carry of her and bumped the vehicle, but he could not shut the alarm off until he placed her in the seat. 
      There is no odd DNA evidence in the vehicle.
3. He controls the situation..
    The kids could have even been given a mild sedative like cold medicine.
    He can drive a long long way if wanted to.. He would just have to pay cash for fuel.
    He controls time and direction. His answers are vague and not provable, true or false.
    He leaves people that know him in question. They want to trust him.

          His own behavior will be his undoing..mo.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 17, 2010, 09:09:25 PM
sounds plausible, and right on, detective edward


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on February 19, 2010, 12:35:10 AM
Yes, that is 100% Josh Powel's realty site.  We determined that at the very beginning of the case.  Here is the realtor photo that was on that website before it went down:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Josh_Powell_Realtor_Photo.jpg)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 19, 2010, 08:41:02 AM
oh....well that shows you just how much I pay attention  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on February 19, 2010, 03:06:21 PM
oh....well that shows you just how much I pay attention  ::MonkeyHaHa::

So many cases, so little time.  I miss so much!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: CarolynV on February 20, 2010, 03:19:58 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m2d19-Officials-say-remains-found-by-8-yearr-old-near-Olympia-not-believed-to-be-those-of-Susan-Cox-Powell


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 20, 2010, 07:25:14 AM
from the above link

An 8-year old boy playing in a wooded area in Lewis County, Wash., near the Cowlitz River on Thursday afternoon came upon remains that Lewis County sheriffs do not believe belong to Susan Cox Powell.

Detectives are searching the area and, at this time, have no information as to how long the remains had been there or how the person died.

One thing they are quite sure of, the remains are not those of missing Utah mom, Susan Cox Powell, whose hometown is Puyallup, Wash., about one hour southeast of where the body was found.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 20, 2010, 10:36:30 AM
Quote
License Status Active
Original Issue Date 11/12/2008 
Expiration Date 09/30/2010 
at this link, and im sure you see something else of interest too

https://secure.utah.gov/rer/relv?page=page.search.details&id=3464809


Edit:  Ph. #'s MB
 
 
« Last Edit: February 17, 2010, 09:04:36 PM by MuffyBee » 
 

sorry MB i thought i had left the phone #s out
ill be more careful in the future


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on February 20, 2010, 11:05:49 AM
Quote
License Status Active
Original Issue Date 11/12/2008 
Expiration Date 09/30/2010 
at this link, and im sure you see something else of interest too

https://secure.utah.gov/rer/relv?page=page.search.details&id=3464809


Edit:  Ph. #'s MB
 
 
« Last Edit: February 17, 2010, 09:04:36 PM by MuffyBee » 
 

sorry MB i thought i had left the phone #s out
ill be more careful in the future


No worries.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: seemeatthebeach on February 21, 2010, 08:53:42 PM
MichelleSigona

getting word that a body was found in a camping area in Utah, just spoke with the Susan Powell cops, they dont have the info yet stay tuned

http://twitter.com/MichelleSigona


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 21, 2010, 09:14:54 PM
MichelleSigona

getting word that a body was found in a camping area in Utah, just spoke with the Susan Powell cops, they dont have the info yet stay tuned

http://twitter.com/MichelleSigona
OMG, thank-you seeme.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Elaine on February 21, 2010, 09:19:41 PM
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Body-found-in-Hobblecreek-Canyon/yWBRkykOsEaHOMH406ex3g.cspx (http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Body-found-in-Hobblecreek-Canyon/yWBRkykOsEaHOMH406ex3g.cspx)
SPRINGVILLE, Utah (ABC 4 News) - A body has been found in Hobblecreek Canyon Sunday afternoon.

The body is located about five minute hike from the main road in the Right Hand Fork area of the canyon.

Hikers called in the find Sunday afternoon.

Not much is known yet as to how the body got there or even the gender.

Utah County Sheriff has crews on the way to the scene to get more information.

Stay tuned to ABC 4 News and abc4.com for updates on this story.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 09:23:50 PM
(http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo17/jute2008/HFTM/UtahDirections.jpg)
map from HFTM


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 09:34:43 PM
http://www.wildernessutah.com/adventure/hobblecreek.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 09:36:06 PM
keep in mind......
http://www.des.utah.gov/bci/UTAHmissingpersons.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 09:53:47 PM
Deputies call circumstances involving body found in Hobble Creek Canyon "suspicious"

SPRINGVILLE — Sheriff's deputies have confirmed that a dead body was found by hikers in Hobble Creek Canyon on Sunday.

The call came in to Utah County Sheriff's dispatchers about 4:10 p.m. that a body was found on the side of the road about 3 to 4 miles from the mouth of the canyon. Investigators are calling the circumstances "suspicious" but wouldn't disclose details.

Investigators have been trying to reach the body by snowmobile or hiking for removal. Utah County Sheriff's Sgt. Spencer Cannon said the age and gender of the body is not being released yet.

When asked whether the body could be that of Susan Powell the missing West Valley City mother of two. Cannon would only say that if that is determined, they would contact authorities in West Valley.

More information will be posted on deseretnews.com as it becomes available.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700011086/Body-found-in-Hobble-Creek-Canyon.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 10:10:25 PM
Hi everybody - Just a note: The body found near Hobblecreek Canyon this afternoon is NOT Susan per WVCPD. Thanks for your care and concern. Please pray for the family of the person found...
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 10:11:38 PM
Now how would the WVCPD know this already?  :2thinky:


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 10:19:39 PM
BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 10:21:41 PM
Last Update: 8:02 pm

SPRINGVILLE, Utah (ABC 4 News) - A body has been found in Hobblecreek Canyon Sunday afternoon.

The body was found about five minutes from the main road in the Right Hand Fork area of the canyon.

Officials are calling it suspicious at this time.

Hikers called in the find Sunday afternoon.

Not much is known yet about how the body got there or even the gender.

The Utah County Sheriff's Office said Sunday evening that they could not release the identity until family members have been notified.  But updates on gender and info later in the evening.

A base camp has been set up at the Jolley's Ranch Campground just north of the Hobblecreek Golf Course

Stay tuned to ABC 4 News and abc4.com for updates on this story.
http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/UPDATE-Body-found-in-Hobblecreek-Canyon/yWBRkykOsEaHOMH406ex3g.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 21, 2010, 10:32:57 PM
thanks for the updates
and since they made a base camp,that makes it
seem they have not removed the body yet, prob
still checking site for evidence maybe


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: darla on February 21, 2010, 10:55:34 PM
Good Evening Monkeys!

I haven't been in this thread since last week. Does anyone know if this is in the area that Josh  supposedly said they went camping?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 11:02:05 PM
I don't think he ever did say exactly where.

Deputies say female body found in Hobble Creek Canyon unlikely that of Susan Powell

SPRINGVILLE — Sheriff's deputies have confirmed that the body of a 25- to 35-year-old woman was found by hikers in Hobble Creek Canyon on Sunday.

The call came in to Utah County Sheriff's dispatchers about 4:10 p.m. that a body was found on the side of the road about 3 to 4 miles from the mouth of the canyon. Investigators are calling the circumstances "suspicious" but wouldn't disclose details.

Investigators have been trying to reach the body by snowmobile or hiking for removal.

When asked whether the body could be that of Susan Powell the missing West Valley City mother of two, Utah County Sheriff's Sgt. Spencer Cannon said they're pretty certain the body is not that of Powell, who has been gone for more than two months.

"It's not connected to any missing person cases that we know about at this time," he said.

More information will be posted on deseretnews.com as it becomes available.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700011086/Deputies-say-female-body-found-in-Hobble-Creek-Canyon-unlikely-that-of-Susan-Powell.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on February 21, 2010, 11:12:51 PM
Thanks for the update Nut.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 22, 2010, 08:33:19 AM
This says the woman wore 2 hearing aids...  no copy/paste allowed
http://heraldextra.com/news/local/article_aadc4ad9-fbc6-5d22-be92-49750be0d83f.html

and the search for Susan continues.... come on Josh, where's your wife?? Sooner or later she will be found...then what will you do? Tick tock tick tock....spring is a comin' and the snow is a meltin'


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 22, 2010, 08:40:08 AM
Thanks for the updates Nut.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 22, 2010, 08:55:25 AM
This says the woman wore 2 hearing aids...  no copy/paste allowed
http://heraldextra.com/news/local/article_aadc4ad9-fbc6-5d22-be92-49750be0d83f.html

and the search for Susan continues.... come on Josh, where's your wife?? Sooner or later she will be found...then what will you do? Tick tock tick tock....spring is a comin' and the snow is a meltin'


A woman's body was found near Jolley's Ranch in Hobble Creek Canyon Sunday on county land, according to the Utah County Sheriff's Office.

The woman is between the ages of 25 and 35, and her death was not accidental, Utah County Sheriff's Office spokesman Sgt. Spencer Cannon said.

Officers don't know who the woman is, and they're asking for help identifying her. The woman wore two hearing aids. Anyone who may know the woman is asked to call the Utah County Sheriff's Office at (801) 375-3601.

The woman's body was discovered just after 4 p.m., Cannon said, when recreators in the area discovered it.

Cannon said the body's location was on unincorporated county land, though he was not sure whether it was on public or private property. The area was off-road, not accessible by vehicle, and would take "several minutes to access it by hiking or snowshoeing," he said.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 22, 2010, 09:28:25 AM
Thank-you for all the updates.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: SunnyinTX on February 22, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
thanks for all the updates.

So where is Susan?


 I can't imagine there be no missing persons info on a young woman who wore 2 hearing aids???


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 22, 2010, 10:16:52 AM
How many 25 year old girls are missing in Utah ?

A 25 year old with 2 hearing aids should be easy to identify as she would be considered handicapped under the law.
any school should have record of such a student.

Very disturbing indeed..

Also I did search for info on another missing girl Madaline Baker listed as missing at 17 years old.. LITTLE OR NO INFO
No Web Site other then the national data base and No family looking for her in news reports.. Very Strange indeed since she went missing in late of 2009.

Lots of people missing in a little state of mostly wilderness.




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Missiontoconvict on February 22, 2010, 02:52:28 PM
Police identify body found in Hobble Creek Canyon

Daily Herald | Posted: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:45 am | No Comments Posted


SPRINGVILLE -- Police have identified the body found Sunday in Hobble Creek Canyon as Amy Candland, and have arrested her nephew in her death.

Damien Allister Candland, 22, of Provo was arrested on a charge of aggravated murder and booked into the Utah County Jail. Amy Candland was 41 and lived in Provo.

The woman's body was discovered just after 4 p.m. on Sunday near Jolley's Ranch in Hobble Creek Canyon by a female snowshoer, according to Utah County Sheriff's Office spokesman Sgt. Spencer Cannon.

Jurisdiction in the case has been turned over to the Provo Police Department.

According to court records, Damien Candland has an assault charge pending in 4th District Court. He is scheduled for a preliminary hearing in that case on March 1. He also is on probation for theft and possession or use of a controlled substance, charges to which he pleaded guilty in May 2009.

http://heraldextra.com/news/local/article_aadc4ad9-fbc6-5d22-be92-49750be0d83f.html
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on February 22, 2010, 03:03:49 PM
when did Amy go missing? how did they know that it was the nephew this soon after finding the body?

RIP Amy....


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Missiontoconvict on February 22, 2010, 03:05:27 PM
when did Amy go missing? how did they know that it was the nephew this soon after finding the body?

RIP Amy....
I wondered the same thing Cook - esp when they said they did not feel it was related to a missing person....someone had to know she was missing....didn't they?  And to make an arrest this quick?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 22, 2010, 03:17:40 PM
when did Amy go missing? how did they know that it was the nephew this soon after finding the body?

RIP Amy....
I wondered the same thing Cook - esp when they said they did not feel it was related to a missing person....someone had to know she was missing....didn't they?  And to make an arrest this quick?
I wondered also, what a shame  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on February 22, 2010, 03:25:36 PM
when did Amy go missing? how did they know that it was the nephew this soon after finding the body?

RIP Amy....
I wondered the same thing Cook - esp when they said they did not feel it was related to a missing person....someone had to know she was missing....didn't they?  And to make an arrest this quick?
I wondered also, what a shame  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This is all very strange. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 22, 2010, 04:08:17 PM
Thanks for the update!

NOW..... Josh....where is Susan??


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ISpy on February 22, 2010, 11:51:55 PM
This says the woman wore 2 hearing aids...  no copy/paste allowed
http://heraldextra.com/news/local/article_aadc4ad9-fbc6-5d22-be92-49750be0d83f.html

and the search for Susan continues.... come on Josh, where's your wife?? Sooner or later she will be found...then what will you do? Tick tock tick tock....spring is a comin' and the snow is a meltin'

Nut- Your post reminded me of some Forensic Science material I went over today. 

Snow and it's subsequent cold temps can actually preserve evidence.  Did you also know that everywhere you go, you leave evidence particles?  All kinds of particles (fibers, soil, hair, dead skin cells,etc.) are left behind with every contact.  Even the acts of attempting to erase evidence and cleaning up leave their own distinct particles...particles to small to be seen, much less cleaned up or picked up...and the Forensic Science team has been training for years to find them...it's their passion, their gift.  We spent time today practicing collecting particles, labeling them, and learning about the chain of custody.   :D


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 26, 2010, 09:22:21 AM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/85455257.html

Neighbors to Josh Powell: Your wife is still missing
By Lindsay Cohen
Story Published: Feb 25, 2010 at 11:10 PM PST

PUYALLUP, Wash. -- Josh Powell has had few words to say since his wife disappeared from their Utah home.

He has since moved to his and his wife's home town of Puyallup with his two sons.

The mysterious disappearance of Susan Powell has yet to be solved, and Josh Powell's new neighbors don't want him to forget that. So they're posting flyers all over the place their gated community.

The woman who began the campaign didn't even know Susan Powell, but was too moved by her story not to act.

Josh Powell's decision to move to Puyallup has been puzzling, at best, for his new neighbors.

"I do not understand how he can pick up and move almost act as if nothing happened," said neighbor Colleen Russell.

Josh Powell is the only person of interest in his wife's disappearance.
Susan Powell has been missing since Dec. 6 when Josh Powell took his sons camping in below-freezing temperatures to a site near their home in Salt Lake City.

He has since moved his life, but his new neighbors have posted flyers and purple ribbons on his lamp posts as a reminder of his missing wife.

"Just to make him aware that we're going to be visible and that it's not right to move away and forget," Russell said. "I don't feel as a neighbor so much that there's a danger to me, but I do feel that he needs to still have it in the forefront."

Josh Powell's family did not want to comment on the neighbors' campaign.

Anyone with information on the case is urged to contact police immediately.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 26, 2010, 09:25:19 AM
BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 26, 2010, 11:45:48 AM
OK ..So Joshua's father has raised a sociopath child who has most likely murdered his wife.
He has justified his son's behavior and shows us how he developed his son over time.
Where does Joshua's father suppose his daughter in law is located these days ?
What a group..

Purple ribbons..

Absolutely absurd and ridicules.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 26, 2010, 05:16:50 PM
Has the snow melted enough to send out search parties or are they still looking for her on facebook?  Have they posted photos of Josh's vehicle and the rental car and HIS photo on those facebook pages?? Doubtful.

It is ridiculous Edward.....truly outrageous.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 26, 2010, 07:19:12 PM
Quote
Has the snow melted enough to send out search parties


soon guys, soon i think people will be out and about

next 10 days
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USUT0225

feb
http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/USUT0225



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 28, 2010, 11:20:09 AM
http://www.komonews.com/news/85744947.html

Tensions rise as 'missing mom' fliers torn down
By Shomari Stone
Story Published: Feb 27, 2010 at 6:40 PM PST
PUYALLUP, Wash. - Tensions are rising in the search for missing Puyallup native Susan Powell, who disappeared after dark Dec. 6 under mysterious circumstances.

Volunteers are frustrated after the fliers they posted about Susan in her husband's neighborhood were torn down.

Now the president of the Country Hollow Homeowners' Association has made them take down the rest of the fliers, which are designed to raise awareness about Susan's disappearance.

"The regulations of the community do not allow any posting of signs on community property," he told the volunteers. "As the president of the association, I have to tell you."
Colleen Russell and her friends taped the signs to light poles and put up purple ribbons on trees in the gated community where they live.

"I don't think the homeowners' association understands that that was Susan's favorite color," Russell says. "We're not accusing anything - we just want to find Susan and bring her home."
Susan Powell's husband Josh moved to Country Hollow with their two sons from Salt Lake City, where she vanished. He is considered a person of interest in the case.

Investigators say Josh told them he took his kids camping in subfreezing temperatures around midnight on Dec. 6, and that his wife was missing when he returned the next day.

Susan and Josh are both from the Puyallup area and Susan's in-laws live there.
The volunteers feel defeated, and they wonder why Josh Powell isn't asking the homeowners' association to make an exception to the rule, since it is his wife and she's missing.
KOMO News tried to interview Josh Powell about it, but no one would answer the door at the house where he is staying. A man's voice inside said Josh was not available.

Susan Powell's father, Chuck Cox, is disappointed the fliers have to come down.

"I still have hope, and I can't deny it's been almost three months. And the likelihood now is if she is not being captive somewhere then she is no longer with us," he said.




Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 28, 2010, 01:51:27 PM
Volunteers are frustrated after the fliers they posted about Susan in her husband's neighborhood were torn down.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: Not trying to be rude, but what good are these fliers in her husband's neighborhood going to do? I'm sure she is nowhere near there. And what on earth is taking so long with the evidence the police have collected?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on February 28, 2010, 03:53:27 PM
There does appear to be a problem with common sense thinking in everyone associated to this case.

I would have taken the kids away first thing and threw his butt in the clink and CALLED his suspect until the cows came home.

Being a Spineless jellyfish will get you anywhere..
and that is where they are NOW.

Like Dr.Phil says, How is that working for ya ?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 28, 2010, 04:11:24 PM
Sickening.......to say the least  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Pathetic.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 28, 2010, 05:06:56 PM
Deseret Morning News (Salt Lake City) 
February 28, 2010 Sunday 
 
Josh Powell apparently starts Web site for finding Susan Powell

WEST VALLEY CITY ? Almost three months after a West Valley City woman went missing, a new Web site has been launched, apparently by her husband, in an attempt to find her. The site is susanpowell.org, not to be confused with www.susancoxpowellfoundation.org, which is the site for a foundation established earlier this month by missing Susan Cox Powell's parents to fight domestic violence and provide strategic media consulting to families of missing persons.

Days after Susan Powell went missing, the Cox family and Susan Powell's friends started a Facebook page called "Friends and Family of Susan Powell," which had nearly 46,000 members as of Saturday, as a clearinghouse of information. As for susanpowell.org, Susan Powell's husband, Josh Powell, purchased the domain name in 2006, said Shelby Gifford, spokeswoman for the Cox family. "As far as who put up the Web site, I have no information on that," Gifford said. "It is not the Cox family." The susanpowell.org home page prominently features a picture of Susan, Josh and their two children before a campfire in the snow. They are apparently winter camping ? the same activity Josh Powell says he was doing with his two young children on the night she went missing, a story that the police cannot collaborate. The site also includes a section about Josh Powell, with a picture of him with the kids and description of all the activities he enjoys doing by himself or with his wife and kids, such as photography, music and woodwork. The section asks viewers to pray for him, Susan, the children and the Cox family. Josh Powell, who police have labeled a "person of interest" in his wife's disappearance, was apparently the last person to see her, sometime after midnight on Dec. 7. The Web site says it is "the official site for information" about the missing woman, and "the only source of new photos, videos and even Susan's own words." The site also promises more photos, videos and information about her. The photos currently posted on the site contain watermarks, which makes printing them for use in newspapers, television, on the Web or on fliers difficult. "Some of the information (is) humorous," the site says. "Some is educational. Most of all, we would like this site to be uplifting." The rest of the site praises Susan as a "beautiful woman," "loving mother and wife" and "an inspiration." Police call Susan's disappearance suspicious, since she left her purse and cell phone at home. Friends and family of the broker for Wells Fargo Financial say she never would have left her children. Susan Powell's family and her friends say their marriage was troubled. Friends said she talked openly at church about marital problems and divorce. Some even gave police e-mails Susan had written with details of a troubled marriage. Police have complained that Josh Powell hasn't been cooperative in the investigation. In early January, he packed up the belongings in the West Valley house, 6254 W. Sarah Circle, and returned with his children to Puyallup, Wash., to live in his parents' home. The Tacoma-area city is where the couple met and first lived. The new Web site says that the children need to be protected from the media and public, but said they "are happy and well adjusted in their new home. They are now living with their father and extended family. They receive love and hugs frequently throughout each day. They regularly play with their friends. And they get lots of personal attention to their education and other needs." The site, which does not list any contacts except West Valley police, asks those who have information about Susan's whereabouts to contact detectives. It also asks for prayers on behalf of Susan, Josh and their children.
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:1135281196&start=1


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 28, 2010, 05:15:17 PM
not sure kinda weird

New memorial website for Susan Cox Powell said to be 'creepy', thought to be set up by her husband

February 27, 2010 - A new website, www.susanpowell.org, has many people confused and asking questions.

There is chatter on the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page about the new website. The general consensus seems to be that the fire in the photo may have been added to the picture.

Some believe the picture is distasteful given the circumstances surrounding Susan's disappearance and Josh Powell, Susan's husband's, largely disbelieved story that he took his kids camping in the middle of the night during a Utah snowstorm the night she disappeared.

Readers shared their opinions:

Fonda Sue Truelove wrote, "Someone photo shot the campfire into the pic."

Linda Blair said, "Scary picture...is he trying to prove they go camping in the snow???? It looks photo shopped … added to the picture … I think I've seen this picture without the fire before …"

"That picture is just creepy considering what we know," said Anne White. "How distasteful that he would choose that shot - but typical

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m2d27-New-memorial-website-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-said-to-be-creepy-thought-to-be-set-up-by-her-husband

web site
http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Default.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 28, 2010, 05:18:32 PM
WTH with that picture  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 28, 2010, 05:32:39 PM
a new campaign, now no photos on the flyers

Susan Cox Powell: 'Where have all the ribbons gone, again?' Josh says fliers upset the kids

February 27, 2010 - This isn't the first time ribbons and fliers put up as a reminder that Susan Cox Powell remains missing have been taken down. Earlier this month Susan's house was decorated in her honor, then one night, the decorations disappeared. (Read more).

And now supporters of Susan Powell canvassed her husband's new Puyallup neighborhood putting up ribbons and fliers only to watch them be taken down Friday.

Josh Powell, Susan's husband, moved his two young sons from their family home in Utah just weeks after his went missing to live with his father, Steven Powell aka Steven Chantrey, in Puyallup, Wash.

Some of Josh's new Puyallup neighbors recently learned of Susan's disappearance and wanted to help. They canvassed the neighborhood, going door-to-door getting permission to put fliers and posters on neighbor's trees or front porches.

Fliers and ribbons were also placed on mailboxes, light posts, and posts at the entrances.

Almost as fast as they went up many of the fliers and ribbons were taken down.

Colleen Russell, one of the neighbors involved in putting up the fliers and ribbons received a text message from a concerned neighbor in the community Friday afternoon stating that the ribbons and fliers were being removed from Country Hollow.

When she arrived home she saw they had been removed from the east side of the street on Country Hollow, the street where Josh lives with his two boys, father, two brothers, and younger sister.

Fliers and ribbons were also missing from mailboxes, light posts, and posts at the neighborhood entrances.

The fliers and ribbons were allegedly removed because Steven Powell, Josh's father, complained to the Homeowner's Association, saying they were disturbing Josh's two young children.

The question is why were the ribbons removed when it was the pictures that were reportedly disturbing the children?

In a phone interview with Colleen Russell Friday she said, "We'll be back out canvassing the neighborhood Saturday morning, asking for neighbor's support in hanging a purple ribbon on their tree or porch in support of Susan Powell. This should not be an upsetting site to the children since it will not contain photos of Susan."
On the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook wall, Danielle Dorr Hill said, "We will be distributing more purple ribbons around the neighborhood of Silver Creek. If anyone would like one, please send me your address so we can make sure you have one for your tree since we can't put them anywhere else."

There has been an ongoing debate about the use of purple ribbons in the Susan Powell missing person's case, implying they were originally used to portray Susan as a domestic violence victim.

While purple ribbons have been used to raise awareness about victims of domestic violence, they have also been used to raise awareness about over a dozen medical conditions, animal abuse, foster care, religious tolerance, homelessness, and more.

The color purple was originally chosen in Susan's case because it is one of Susan's favorite colors.

Now, not only are the purple ribbons appropriate because they are Susan's favorite color, but because they symbolize what many did not first realize - Susan was a victim of domestic abuse:

"We can say without reservation," Shelby Gifford, spokesperson for Susan's family said, "that Susan was a victim of domestic abuse in her own home."

The Salt Lake Tribune published an article that included a new website created by Josh Powell. The article generated much public comment, including these few:

"The comments by Steve P. make me furious. The fliers upset the kids?!?! Why not use this as an opportunity to LET those poor kids TALK about their MOTHER! Why not put your arm around Charlie and say "Charlie, your mommy's pictures are on these papers because all these nice people are trying to find her. Isn't that wonderful?" But no--the kids most likely aren't being allowed to talk about her at all, so rip the fliers down and get rid of them, just like they're removing all presence of Susan in those poor boys' lives."

"Thank you thank you thank you to everyone that had a hand in putting those flyers up all over in Puyallup (SP). It brings rightful attention to the Powells and reminds Josh that he can't run away."

"Colleen Russell is a hero … You can take the signs down, but you can't erase the care for Susan or the distaste for your incredibly inhumane reactions."

"Josh and this father could have handled the flyer situation like this: Explain to them that everyone wants to find mommy, and people who don't even know her care about her. If Josh were not guilty of 'something' he would not be bothered by missing person posters, he would be embracing them."

"Why not put your arm around Charlie and say, Charlie, your mommy's pictures are on these papers because all these nice people are trying to find her. Isn't that wonderful? Exactly KBH. The kids know their mom is missing and should be comforted to learn they are not alone in wanting to find her. Why is that so hard?"

Click here to read more comments.

Susan Cox Powell, 28, was reported missing Dec. 7, 2009. The last person to see her was her husband, Joshua "Josh" Powell. Josh is the only person of interest in the case of his wife's disappearance. Shelby Gifford, spokeswoman for Susan's family, said police call this a missing person's case with suspicious criminal overtones.

Friends, family, the public at large, and police are frustrated at Josh's lack of cooperation with police. Josh is now living about 900 miles from the home where he and his wife raised their two young sons.
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m2d27-Susan-Cox-Powell-Where-have-all-the-ribbons-gone-again-Josh-says-fliers-upset-the-kids



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on February 28, 2010, 05:50:15 PM
i think the coxs are getting upset finally

Susan Cox Powell Press Conference: Josh's control over Susan, there were clues (Full video)
February 15, 2:32 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder

February 15, 2010 - (Click here for full video of press conference, see notes below for viewing the video.) The family of Susan Cox Powell, who was reported missing Dec. 7, 2009, held a press conference Monday afternoon in Puyallup, Wash. The family discussed several issues, including that Josh Powell, Susan's husband and only person of interest in the case, showed controlling behaviors toward Susan.

Of primary concern was Josh's control of Susan's day-to-day activities. For example, Gifford said, not giving Susan the keys to her car. She had to check them in and out with Josh.

Josh changed Susan's PIN number so she could not access her checking account. Her father helped remedy this by helping her open a new account. The family is not aware if Josh took control of that account.

Susan, Gifford said, was an exceptional mother and her boys were everything to her. She was great at parenting the kids. She was consistent, considerate, and loving.

Josh undermined her efforts as a mom. Gifford cited a first-hand account when Susan was trying to put the boys to bed one night. Josh would take them out of bed and tell the boys how mean their mommy was. She was frustrated and it was not something she took lightly.

When asked if the family had some of the pieces, did they encourage Susan to leave? Gifford said Susan's concern was not with her own physical safety but rather that Josh would take the children away from her. He repeatedly threatened her with that and she believed, due to his family history, that he could do it and would do it.

The family understands that domestic violence progresses through physical violence, sexual violence, and even death. Gifford said domestic violence typically starts gradually and escalates. Susan and Josh had some of those dynamics in their relationship.

Aside from his controlling behaviors mentioned above, there was an incident where abuse from Josh toward Susan became physical, according to a family member Susan confided in.

Susan also confided in family members that she had plans to leave Josh in April of this year, after their wedding anniversary. They do not believe Josh was aware of this.

From Susan's perspective it was if I have to divorce him what should I do? None of the family members or friends had enough of the pieces to believe she was at risk. Susan was protective of her parents and didn't share everything with them.

video
http://www.kirotv.com/video/22580702/index.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 28, 2010, 06:12:35 PM
WTH with that picture  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Default.aspx
That photo was obviously posted by Josh to SHOW the public that he and his family did go camping at night , in winter. I can't wait to see this waste of oxygen get hauled in/arrested for her murder....well....IF he ever does.
He makes me puke.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 28, 2010, 06:19:29 PM
Disgusting.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on February 28, 2010, 06:45:53 PM
WTH with that picture  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Default.aspx
That photo was obviously posted by Josh to SHOW the public that he and his family did go camping at night , in winter. I can't wait to see this waste of oxygen get hauled in/arrested for her murder....well....IF he ever does.
He makes me puke.
Me too, he is just vile  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ISpy on February 28, 2010, 11:18:19 PM
Logging in late to say it seems odd that Josh's cheeks and the boys' cheeks appear to be red in the pick, but Susan's clearly are not.  Why?  If it was that cold, they'd all be rosy-cheeked.  I also find it odd that Susan is looking at the camera straight on and the oldest son is looking to something to the right of the camera.  Why is he not looking at the seemingly roaring, crackling, fire right in front of him?  I'm wondering if Susan and the toddler are photoshopped in, as well as the fire.  JMO


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: suzyinpgh on March 01, 2010, 06:45:43 AM
I would like to know who took the picture. 



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 01, 2010, 09:10:25 AM
Logging in late to say it seems odd that Josh's cheeks and the boys' cheeks appear to be red in the pick, but Susan's clearly are not.  Why?  If it was that cold, they'd all be rosy-cheeked.  I also find it odd that Susan is looking at the camera straight on and the oldest son is looking to something to the right of the camera.  Why is he not looking at the seemingly roaring, crackling, fire right in front of him?  I'm wondering if Susan and the toddler are photoshopped in, as well as the fire.  JMO

a couple of things i see


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on March 01, 2010, 11:46:50 AM
WTH with that picture  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Default.aspx
That photo was obviously posted by Josh to SHOW the public that he and his family did go camping at night , in winter. I can't wait to see this waste of oxygen get hauled in/arrested for her murder....well....IF he ever does.
He makes me puke.
Me too, he is just vile  ::MonkeyNoNo::


The picture of Susan further down the page is not a good picture of her...she is looking away to the side ::MonkeyEek::  Susan is a beautiful lady and I have seen some great pictures of her...but this picture is not good...wonder why Josh picked this picture?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 02, 2010, 12:22:57 AM

someone added a new pg, its sickening

http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Susan_Powell/SusanCosmetologist.aspx
Susan Loves Hairstyling and Makeup
 
One of Susan's favorite hobbies is hairstyling and makeup. She is one of the best around when it comes to making people look good. She can produce any look or style desired. She can even do her own hair and frequently does.

Susan attended Gene Juarez Academy in Washington state. With scholarships and support from her parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, her full tuition was paid. Susan truly achieved excellence. She is capable of recreating just about any hair style imaginable for both men and women.

Like many cosmotologists, Susan loves to change her hair frequently. It is wonderful to see her passion and creativity manifest through her own hair and makeup. Most of her creative energy has been shared through her hobby and unofficial home based business.

Although licensed in Washington state, Utah did not recognize Susan's cosmotology license. She is currently about 200 education hours short of achieving her license in Utah. Utah requires 2,000 hours total. Therefore, her home based business was never advertised and she never officially accepted payment for services. Many people would offer tips and they would usually reimburse her for products they used.

Susan never held back when it came to purchases at the beauty supply. Of course, Josh has always been happy to support Susan's efforts in any way he could. Josh suggested that she turn it into a real business and he offered to teach her accounting basics. Josh is a Quickbooks Certified Pro Advisor and has a degree in Business Administration.

 
Josh and Susan had been making plans to open a home based salon for Susan. They were going to cut an exterior door for an entrance into the basement. They started the project several years ago, when they obtained a building permit.

During most of 2009, Josh was working on construction projects around the home and with the children. Josh planned to continue working until Susan's salon and the basement were finished. Susan already had her stylist's chair. And as an expert woodworker, Josh was also working with Susan on plans to build a classy styling station for Susan - a station complete with lights, plumbing, and all the features a cosmotologist would want.

Most of these plans have been put on hold for the time being.

seems to put josh in a good lite, sounds like a rebuttal, to the coxs
news conf
http://www.kirotv.com/video/22580702/index.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 02, 2010, 12:45:31 AM
License Information:
Name: POWELL, SUSAN M 
License Type: Operator
License Number: 13881
License Status: Active
First Issued Date: Jun 25 2001 
License Issued: Jun 6 2009 
Expiration Date: Jun 25 2011 

 
Address:
WEST VALLEY UT 84128-7069
 
 
 


Endorsements on this license:   Endorsement Status     
Cosmetologist   Active     





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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 02, 2010, 08:23:08 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d1-Susan-Cox-Powell-Victim-of-domestic-abuse-experts-say-controlling-behavior-a-red-flag
 Susan Cox Powell: Victim of domestic abuse, experts say controlling behavior a red flag (Video)
March 1, 7:04 PM
March 1, 2010 - After Susan Cox Powell went missing friends and family began sharing information with police and among themselves. Over time the pieces of the puzzle began coming together and they have concluded that Susan was a victim of domestic abuse.

Shelby Gifford, spokeswoman for Susan Cox Powell's family, said, "The family now knows without reservation that Susan was a victim of domestic abuse in her own home." They also say her husband, Josh Powell, was controlling.

Susan has been missing since Dec. 6, her husband was the last person to see her.

Friends and family have converged and learned that Josh and Susan's relationship was deeply troubled.
While in relationships it 'takes two to tango' there are times when a person is a victim of abuse, be it physical or emotional. It is apparent, given what those closest to Susan are now saying, that Susan was the victim of abuse by a controlling and abusive husband.

Shelby Gifford, spokeswoman for Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, said during the family's Feb. 15 press conference that Josh was verbally, emotionally, and even physically abusive to Susan.

Gifford said, "We can say without a reservation that Susan was a victim of domestic abuse in her own home."

It has been discovered that Josh controlled the finances even though it was Susan who brought in the bulk of the money. Susan's friends and family say that Josh did not even allow her to buy the groceries she needed for her boys, and complained when she bought them shoes.

They say he sold Susan's car against her wishes, leaving her dependent upon him. He undermined her as a parent.
Josh tells Susan to "Shut up!"

Debbie Caldwell provided child care for Josh and Susan Powell's two boys, Charlie, then 4, and Braden, then 2, three days per week for about a year and a half before Susan went missing in early December. She and Susan were also close friends.

Caldwell remembers a time when Josh and Susan came to pick their children up from daycare. Caldwell and her husband engaged in a conversation with the Powell's. When Susan tried to join in the conversation Josh abruptly told her, "Susan, shut up!"

"That incident," Caldwell said, "has stood out profoundly in my mind as well as my husband's mind."

"I didn't see Susan do anything to provoke Josh to tell her to 'shut up'," Caldwell said. "I do not believe Susan deserved this type of treatment."

Josh's control of the money

Josh was extremely controlling when it came to money. He restricted the amount of groceries Susan bought for her boys and, while friends and family once believed Susan labored in her garden because she loved gardening, they have since learned she was forced to garden to provide healthy and nutritious foods for her growing children.
Jennifer Graves, Susan's sister-in-law, said, "She had to really fight to buy groceries for her kids."

"I remember one time," Jennifer said, "when Josh made her feel guilty for buying a pair of shoes for one of the boys when he outgrew them."

"There was another time," she said, "When Josh borrowed money from Chuck [Chuck Cox is Susan's father] and he refused to repay it, and he refused to let Susan repay her own parents money they borrowed years ago."

Jennifer said when Susan bought anything for herself, "He would get angry whenever Susan tried to purchase non-essential items for herself like clothes and makeup."

During the Feb. 15 press conference,Gifford said that Josh changed PIN numbers so Susan could not access her own bank accounts.

"There was at least one time," Jennifer said, "when things got physical in their relationship."

Examiner.com spoke with two legal experts, Attorney and Legal Analyst, Anne Bremner, and Family Law Attorney, Juliana Wong, of Stafford Frey Cooper for their expert opinion.

"Many of the clients that we represent may not suffer from physical violence, but more often than not," Bremner and Wong conferred, "will be victims of mental violence. A successful perpetuation of the abuse is through financial restraints and limitations."

"For obvious reasons," they said, "by taking away the funds from the victim, the victim is left without the necessary funds to support themselves or the children and is completely reliant on the perpetrator. This is the most effective way of controlling a person."
Josh undermines Susan's parenting

"Josh undermined Susan often when it came to parenting the boys," Caldwell said. "She would work hard to get them to sleep and he'd get them back up saying mommy was mean. When Susan tried taking her sons to church, he would try to bribe them to stay home with him, offering them things like cake."

Caldwell remembers a time when she went to Susan's house, just days before she went missing, to have her hair dyed and cut.

Caldwell brought pizza for the family dinner.

Josh refused to help Susan with the boys. The kids began to act up because they were tired. Susan finally put them to bed and went into the bedroom to talk with Josh.

Susan was very frustrated, Caldwell said. Josh disrespected Susan's wishes for the boys to go to bed and got them back up, saying they needed a story.

Caldwell remembered an incident when Susan left to go to work on her bike. Josh decided the boys were too sick to go to daycare that day. So instead of putting them in the van to go find their mother, he left them at home alone. He chased Susan down, Caldwell said.

By the time they arrived back at the house the two boys were screaming and "freaked out", she said. Braden was only about 1 1/2 years old at the time and Charlie was about 3 1/2. To her knowledge he never did that again.
"There were times when Josh tried to micro-manage my daycare business," Caldwell said, "He tried to find loopholes in rules set up by the government food program. And he was not considerate when it came time to pick the boys up from daycare "

Selling Susan's car against her wishes

Examiner.com learned from those closest to Susan that selling Susan's car was Josh's idea. Susan was not happy about it but finally relented. Josh claimed they didn't need a second car and it was too expensive to keep up two cars. Was it another form of control?

Gifford said during the Feb. 15 press conference that Josh held the only set of keys to the family mini-van.

Susan ended up having to bike it to work. According to friends and family, she had a regular bike, nothing special.

Caldwell said, "Susan rode seven miles to and from work on a very busy road twice each work day for about two months. The ride took her about 45 minutes each way."

Caldwell, Kiirsi Hellewell, Susan's best friend, and others tried to convince Susan it was too dangerous but she told them it would be okay, she could use the exercise.

They told Examiner.com that they discussed their concerns with Josh and he finally agreed he'd ride his bike and Susan could take the van.

That lasted a week, they said, after Josh went out and spent $1,500 on a motor for his regular bicycle. All while he claimed there wasn't enough money for food and incidentals. His ride to work was five miles.
When riding his bike didn't work out for Josh he turned to his friend, John Hellewell, and asked if they could carpool together.

Kiirsi Hellewell , Susan's best friend, said , "John was the one who drove. The carpool lasted only about a week because Josh expected John to pick him up, drop the kids off at daycare, drop Josh off to work, pick him up from work, and pick the kids up from daycare. On most days John had to leave home earlier and get home later, so John decided to stop the carpool arrangement."

For the remainder of the time before Susan went missing Josh drove Susan to work and picked her up. Caldwell remembers six or seven times when he failed to pick Susan up and failed to call. Caldwell would have to pack the kids up into the car to pick Susan up.

If Susan wanted the van on the days she had off, she had to drive Josh to and from work.

On one occasion Caldwell let Susan borrow her car so she could go to the local LDS temple. She said Josh became angry.
The couple seeks marriage counseling

Susan confided in Caldwell, telling her that Josh continually told her she was crazy. Susan was so distraught by what Josh said that she told Debbie she went to a therapist to be analyzed and was told she was not crazy.

Caldwell suggested they try marriage counseling. She told Susan to ask their Bishop, who ultimately signed the couple up for counseling.

Caldwell said Susan confided in her, telling her that Josh became angry during counseling sessions and that the counselor called him on it once.

Susan told Caldwell Josh accused her of discussing their marital problems with her mom.

The last time Susan talked about these things with Caldwell was when Caldwell visited the Powell home three days before Susan disappeared.

Susan said the therapist was having the couple set goals. Josh's goal for Susan, Caldwell said, was that she stop confiding in friends and family about their marital problems. Susan's goal for Josh was that he work on his behavior.

Susan told Caldwell Josh's behavior would change when he talked with his father and brother on the phone. Susan said he would get angry and mean.

Susan's father, Chuck Cox, told Dr. Phil Tuesday, "I know Josh and Susan had their arguments. It seemed like it was reasonably fair between the two of them. We never saw any hint of violence."

Shelby Gifford, spokesperson for the Cox family, said Susan kept many hurtful things from her parents in an effort to protect them. 
Susan Powell, 28, was reported missing Dec. 7 from her West Valley City, Utah home, her husband, Josh Powell, was the last person to see her and is the only person of interest in what police are calling a missing person's case with suspicious criminal overtones.

Official Susan Cox Powell websites:
Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook
Susan Cox Powell Foundation *

* This is the only official site accepting donations for the Susan Cox Powell Foundation. Beware of sites that claim to be "official" Susan Powell websites.

Video at link.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on March 02, 2010, 02:18:28 PM
I'd like to know what the Cox family is doing to gain custody of those two boys?

If Josh's behavior and control resulted in the possibility of those boys going without food and clothing, daycare, etc - couldn't Child Services be called in to investigate?

I do not feel it is in the best interest of those kids to have them remain in Josh's "care".


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 02, 2010, 04:13:49 PM
Most likely nothing. I doubt Child Services have been called and even if they were, I doubt anything would result from it. Are her parents/family even allowed by Josh to see the boys?? If not, then why haven't they filed a petition to the court for visitation?

He doesn't seem too worried she will be found. He probably burned her in a 'firepit' out in some remote camping area. I am beginning to think she will never be found and he knows it. Shades of Drew Peterson....  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mizjay on March 02, 2010, 10:47:25 PM
Nothing ever came from the wet carpet in the house?  Also, too bad all of the well meaning friends and neighbors helped him move out, knowing the uber helpful types that they were, bet that house was spic n span in short order. If there was evidence left, it's long gone, thanks to folks that just can't seem to have a critical thinking moment. Color me cynical as he77, but under those circumstances I don't think I could be so gracious to give him benefit of the doubt. Sure, only God can judge, but He did give us all common sense.  Typical controlling abuser, can't wait until something exposes him as the cowardly murderer he is .


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ISpy on March 03, 2010, 02:38:04 AM

someone added a new pg, its sickening

http://www.susanpowell.org/Pages/Susan_Powell/SusanCosmetologist.aspx
Susan Loves Hairstyling and Makeup
 
One of Susan's favorite hobbies is hairstyling and makeup. She is one of the best around when it comes to making people look good. She can produce any look or style desired. She can even do her own hair and frequently does. IMO, this is a slam disguised as a compliment. Deep anger seeping through here.

Susan attended Gene Juarez Academy in Washington state. With scholarships and support from her parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, her full tuition was paid. Susan truly achieved excellence. She is capable of recreating just about any hair style imaginable for both men and women.

Like many cosmotologists, Susan loves to change her hair frequentlyThere's that frequency issue again and headlining the paragraph too. . It is wonderful to see her passion and creativity manifest through her own hair and makeup. Most of her creative energy has been shared through her hobby and unofficial home based business.Interesting, the writer feels the need to not-so-subtly demean the business as unofficial, IMO. Dripping sarcasm, if I ever saw it.  Reading between the lines, the implication here is:  Susan "recklessly" wasted the family's money on her hairstyles/herself; she regularly neglected her family by using her creative energy,time,and talents to further her appearance; and was chasing a hair-styling dream.(MAJOR jealousy and deep-seated anger issues)
Although licensed in Washington state, Utah did not recognize Susan's cosmotology license. She is currently about 200 education hours short of achieving her license in Utah. Utah requires 2,000 hours total. Therefore, her home based business was never advertised and she never officially accepted payment for services. Many people would offer tips and they would usually reimburse her for products they used. IMO,the writer goes to great lengths to explain why Susan's hairstyling business didn't succeed.  IMO, he is surreptitiously suggesting Susan was too lazy to complete the 200 hours and advertise the business. I'm also reading a lot of anger that Susan didn't charge people (as Josh possibly told her to/demanded) for the service or the products she bought to do their hair. JMO

Susan never held back when it came to purchases at the beauty supply.Hear the anger and sarcasm?  Interesting choice of words implying Susan lacked self-control and was self-centered. Of course, Josh has always been happy to support Susan's efforts in any way he could.Contrasting to patient, indulgent, long-suffering Josh, as the writer begins to painstakingly detail all the ways Josh "happily supported" her far-fetched dream. Josh suggested that she turn it into a real business and he offered to teach her accounting basics. Josh is a Quickbooks Certified Pro Advisor and has a degree in Business Administration. Remember Susan...you know, the missing person this page/blog is supposed to be about?

 
Josh and Susan had been making plansStrong emphasis on perpetrating the ideal of Josh and Susan working together as a team, to fulfill her dream to open a home based salon for Susan. They were going to cut an exterior door for an entrance into the basement. They started the project several years ago Interesting, the writer feels the need to specify the exact number of years. IMO, an effort to shore up the togetherness image., when they obtained a building permit.

During most of 2009, Josh was working on construction projects around the home and with the children. Highly suspicious of this one, as the children appear to be quite young to help Daddy with construction projects..particularly if Daddy is a control freak (as rumored).  Would like to see some corroboration from family, friends, and neighbors on this.Josh planned to continue working until Susan's salon and the basement were finished.  Another interesting statement, given that going from an investment banker's salary to a hairstyling salary is a huge reduction in income.  Also, given the state of the economy,the housing market, and Josh reportedly being a realtor, I'm not buying this.  It's illogical that he would quit his job and Susan quit hers, expecting the family to be supported by a relatively unknown beauty salon with a very limited clientele (particularly given their reported financial problems, resulting in selling their second car/Josh's short-lived carpooling arrangement/Josh driving Susan to work). Susan already had her stylist's chair. I'd like to see an invoice, please.And as an expert woodworkerAgain, some corroboration from extended family,friends, and neighbors please.  Doubly interesting that so much effort is going into lauding Josh, on Susan's page., Josh was also working with Susan There's that togethernesss, support, shared common goals implication again. on plans to build a classy styling station for Susan - a station complete with lights, plumbing, and all the features a cosmotologist would want. Interesting choice of words again for someone trying to make this article sound so professionally done.  "State of the art" or "High tech" would have been more appropriate terms used by an expert craftsman in describing his work, wouldn't you think?

Most of these plans have been put on hold for the time being. Interesting word choice there. Wouldn't all of your construction and financial plans be put on hold if your beloved spouse, whom you so happily supported went missing?  Wonder what kind of insurance policy the Powells have and who the beneficiary is?

seems to put josh in a good lite, sounds like a rebuttal, to the coxs
news conf
http://www.kirotv.com/video/22580702/index.html


As you can see, I bolded a lot, underlined a lot, and commented a lot.  This article really angered me. Interesting how the writer seems unable to allow this blog to be solely about Susan.  Hmmmmm.  The writer references Josh's (sarcasm alert) overwhelming generosity toward Susan, his *ahem* overwhelming support of Susan, and his *cough-cough* over-indulgence of Susan..as if Josh is the ideal husband.  Blech!  Not buying this!   


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ISpy on March 03, 2010, 02:39:56 AM
Experienced technical difficulty for a long time trying to post this (Hope I didn't break anything here-LOL!).  Got to run. Hope you al have a good evening/a.m. wherever you are.  God bless you!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on March 03, 2010, 12:23:01 PM
Great analysis ISpy!

You know what stuck out for me the most?  The not so subtle undertones of what I perceive as the real message here:

Susan has the ability to completely recreate her appearance via hairstyle and makeup

Meaning - Susan ran away and she could have changed her appearance so much no one would recognize her, and that's why she hasn't been found yet.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 03, 2010, 07:04:24 PM
JVM on HLN will be reaming out Josh Powell tonight  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 03, 2010, 07:50:03 PM
I'll get the transcript up in the morning.

Susan's friend was on...when asked about the website she says there doesn't seem to be much information on it about Susan or how people can help find her and she wishes there were more photos of Susan on it...but she likes the lavender background of the pages  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on March 03, 2010, 07:59:24 PM
I'll get the transcript up in the morning.

Susan's friend was on...when asked about the website she says there doesn't seem to be much information on it about Susan or how people can help find her and she wishes there were more photos of Susan on it...but she likes the lavender background of the pages  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
I saw that, just about screamed and then turned the tv off  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 04, 2010, 07:42:38 AM
skipping over to discussion of Susan Powell....

Aired March 3, 2010

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, bizarre new developments in the suspicious disappearance of a Utah mom. Susan Powell has been missing for three months. And the sole focus has been on her husband, Josh.

He is now facing a fresh wave of criticism, thanks to a new Web site he is believed to have launched, SusanPowell.org. We haven`t confirmed this is Josh`s site. We haven`t heard back from his attorney, but a lot of people, including Susan`s family, think Josh is behind it.

The site reads, quote, "The children are all happy and well- adjusted in their new home." The author is either lying or in very close contact with the two Powell boys. The site also singing Josh, the husband, the person of interest, praises. Quote, "Josh is a loving father and husband. He likes to take his wife out to dinner or watch movies with her. Josh is totally committed to his wife and children."

Well, he can`t take her out to the movies, because she is missing and he`s a person of interest in that disappearance.

Ok, anyway, that`s not what Susan`s family says. They say Susan was planning to leave Josh after years of abuse and control. Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SHELBY GIFFORD, COX FAMILY SPOKESWOMAN: I`ve spent the most time with Susan on a day-to-day basis, witnessing egregious acts of control on Josh`s part, including controlling her use of the car, denying her access to the family finances, even though she brought in most of the money, repeatedly, sabotaging her parenting efforts. And even governing which groceries she could buy or not buy.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Susan disappeared December 6th. Josh moved out of state less than a month later. He told police the night Susan vanished he took their two young sons camping around midnight in freezy, icy conditions. He says they then returned the next day and Susan was gone. Her parents simply do not believe him.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHUCK COX, SUSAN POWELL`S FATHER: And he`s not saying anything and I am not buying this story that he gave the police.

GIFFORD: I find it very disturbing that he won`t speak up or say anything. And that he doesn`t seem to show concern or love or care. It`s just not a way a husband should react with his wife missing.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, back with our fantastic panel. Also joining us, Michelle Sigona of MichelleSigona.com and we are very delighted to have Susan Powell`s friend, Jovanna Owings.

But first Michelle, what is the very latest?

MICHELLE SIGONA, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Well, I`ve spoke with Captain McLaughlin (ph) earlier today Jane and he says at this point they`re still moving forward with some leads and some information that they have. They`re not ready to go forward with that information as of yet. Josh Powell is still living in Washington State. He says he cannot stop him.

And if Josh is the author of this Web site, which Keersey (ph), one of Susan`s friends -- I spoke with her earlier today -- she told me that Josh is the creator of this Web site. That in fact, that after Susan went missing about three weeks after that, he started creating this Web site inside of her house.

So she witnessed a lot of this happen. It sort of went dead. But then the Web site was then brought up after a recent "Dr. Phil Show" and a neighbor in Josh Powell`s current community went out in Washington State and started plastering the neighborhood with posters and purple ribbons of Susan Powell. And then that`s when this particular --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok.

SIGONA: -- Web site popped up.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jovanna Owings, you are Susan Powell`s friend. What do you make of this Web site and the fact that some of Susan`s other friends and family say it`s inappropriate if Josh is in fact doing this to kind of make himself look good?

JOVANNA OWINGS, SUSAN POWELL`S FRIEND: Actually, I`ve seen the Web site. And it`s confusing to me, because first of all, if it`s an official Web site, it`s really not very informative at all. And it`s frustrating, because it`s not giving much information at all for us to help or do anything.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So are you upset about it, or are you ok with it?

OWINGS: I got to see a couple more pictures of Susan that I haven`t seen. And I like the lavender-filled background. But --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok.

OWINGS: You know, it`s more -- it`s more of a frustration for me than anything.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. Jovanna, hang on. We`re going to get to you in just 60 seconds and hear more from you and your analysis. Hold on.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: SusanPowell.com or actually it`s SusanPowell.org, which implies an organization, claims to be the official site for information about this tragic case. It also touts, quote, "Exclusive access and copyright to more photos, videos and even continuing information about this beautiful woman" end quote.

And Mike Brooks, those words sound eerily impersonal to me if Josh is behind this site. First of all, why would he copyright those pictures? Wouldn`t he want Susan`s image spread far and wide since we`re looking for her, since she`s missing?

BROOKS: You know, Jane, you sure would think so. But the odd thing, as a resident former investigator, he`s trying to bolster his alibi, "Oh, look at these pictures, we go out in the snow all the time, camping." But no one, no one goes out at midnight, camping with your kids in blizzard conditions. And then the whole story about, Jane, "Well, I just lost track of time." That is all BS to me.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And he lost track of time. He`s supposed to be at work the next morning.

BROOKS: New job, a new job.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And never showed up.

All right. Susan`s family and friends say Josh controlled every aspect of her life, especially when it came to money. Oddly enough, SusanPowell.org makes a reference to Susan`s spending. Quote, "Susan never held back when it came to purchases at the beauty supply," end quote. Of course, "Josh has always been happy to support Susan`s efforts in any way he could," end quote.

Now, Jovanna Owings, again, is it weird to include that and what do you make of the criticisms that this is designed to bolster his image?

OWINGS: I think it is exactly that. It is a way of showing that he was trying to support her, in that effort to become a beautician and have that home business. But at the same time, I don`t think that that`s really the case. I don`t think that that`s where it was -- it was headed.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Did you see controlling behavior on Josh`s part? You`re a friend of Susan`s, you were there, you`re observing. Did you observe any kind of -- would you say a toxic relationship, which is what the parents and the family are saying?

OWINGS: I did not see that between the two of them, because I wasn`t around them very much. I had just started to form that relationship between Susan and I --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Did she ever complain about him?

OWINGS: She did a little bit. She was a little bit frustrated the day after Thanksgiving, because she needed to go to work and he was out buying gifts for Christmas and wasn`t back home in time for her to go to work.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now --

OWINGS: And so she asked me to go and help her get to work.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s kind of ironic, because he was controlling the money supply, but she was bringing in most of the money. And that`s what happens sometimes. That -- you know, one of the reasons we`re covering this story, we want to find Susan Powell. That`s reason number one.

But also, to point out the hall marks of what could be an abusive relationship, because if people are in them, Michelle Sigona, there are certain hallmarks.

SIGONA: There are.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And Susan`s parents say, you know, in the three months she has been missing, they`ve only been allowed to see their grandsons a couple of times, three times. What do you make of that, Michelle?

SIGONA: You know it`s just very interesting. It just feels like to me that hem you know, wanted to escape a lot of the attention that he was getting in Utah, wanted to go up to his gated community in Washington. Wanted to bring the kids up there to almost start over and kind of ignore what`s going on.

I kind of feel personally on a personal level that if it were my wife and if she were missing I would stay in that neighborhood and do everything that I could possibly do to try to help find her.

And a lot of times in domestic violence situations -- and again, we have not heard from Josh Powell on this end. So we`re just speaking as to what family and friends have come forward and said. There are tall tale red flags that women out there, you have to pay attention to -- you`ve got to pay attention to.

If you have friends out there that are in these kinds of situations, pick up the phone, call the national domestic violence hotline. There is help out there for you.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Absolutely. Jovanna Owings, thank you for having the courage to talk to us. Thanks panel.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/03/ijvm.01.html



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 04, 2010, 07:52:58 AM
Last Update: 3/03 2:11 am

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - Questions are swirling around the website SusanPowell.org that claims to be the "official site for information" about Susan Powell.

The 28 year old mother of two disappeared from her West Valley home in early December of last year.

The big question: Who is behind the website? There's nothing on the site itself that indicates who is responsible or where it comes from.

ABC 4 News researched the domain name and found it is registered through a Scottsdale, Arizona company, "Domains by Proxy" that keeps the names and personal information of website owners private.

A new page added to the site this week describes Susan's dream of opening a hairstyling salon in the basement of their home. The page also said, "Josh has always been happy to support Susan's efforts in any way ... Josh suggested that she turn it into a real business and he offered to teach her accounting basics. Josh is a Quickbooks Certified Pro Advisor and has a degree in Business Administration."

The anonymous writer implies the project was ongoing. According to the page, "Josh planned to continue working until Susan's salon and the basement were finished." But Josh's brother-in-law, Kirk Graves, said, "This project has been dead for two years at least."

What's more, a picture of a salon chair posted to the page seemingly proves that Josh was working to fulfill Susan's dream. But Josh's sister said it didn't come from him. "We actually picked up the chair that's in the picture. We gave it to them," said Jennifer Graves.

Kirk Graves believes the new page was written by a 2nd person. He said Josh is probably getting help from his father, Steve Powell. Josh and his two young sons are currently living in Steve Powell's house in Puyallup, Washington.

ABC 4 News asked Lou Bertram, a retired FBI agent who was on the Unibomber Task Force, to look at the page and give his assessment. While he cannot be sure, Bertram said he would be surprised if it was not produced by Josh Powell.

He believes the motive for creating SusanPowell.org has little to do with finding her. "He's got to go on the offensive," said Bertram. "He has to put himself #1. Unfortunately, other than the headline with Susan's name, she gets put in 2nd place. Josh is #1. It's me. It's me. It's me."

The real motive for the website, Bertram believes, is to counter the allegations from friends and family of Susan Powell that he is a controlling, manipulative, abusive husband. He said, "If I had not known the past 90 days and the situation, I would look at this and I would say Josh is the victim."

Bertram does not believe the website will have any impact on the investigation now being conducted by West Valley police. He does not see anything in it that would warrant removing Josh as a "person of interest" in the case.

For information on Susan Powell from her parent's perspective, click here.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/New-page-added-to-mysterious-SusanPowell-org/ksdN4VKYwEiEGR9kSPzPkg.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: theboyzmom on March 04, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
Ok - I got curious about the SusanPowell.org site - I found it strange there was no contact information listed - almost always there is a "contact webmaster" button. Anyway, I ran a whois check on it and it has the name DomainsByProxy.com as the registrant. When I googled them I got a note that this site is used by scammers to hide their identities so no one can find them by an whois search. I also saw a notation that this is used by law enforcement. DomainsByProxy.com apparently will get the domain for you so you can hide your identity. Very strange to me. I would not hesitate to set up a throwaway email and list it for a contact if I was setting up a site like this.  :smt102:


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 05, 2010, 01:24:48 PM
http://whois.domaintools.com/susanpowell.org

am i reading this correctly underlined

Domain ID:D126104342-LROR
Domain Name:SUSANPOWELL.ORG
Created On:19-Jul-2006 21:39:57 UTC
Last Updated On:20-Jan-2010 00:41:36 UTC
Expiration Date:19-Jul-2019 21:39:57 UTC


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 05, 2010, 01:54:44 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-family-susan-powell-candlelight-vigils,0,3009442.story

Family of Susan Powell to hold vigils to mark 3 month disappearance
Jared Preusz, Web Content Producer FOX 13 News
4:40 PM MST, March 4, 2010

WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah - The family of Susan Cox Powell is planning two candlelight vigils this weekend to mark three months since her disappearance. The 28-year-old West Valley City mother of two young boys was last seen Dec. 7 at her home. Her husband, Josh Powell, said Susan stayed home while he took his boys camping at midnight in subfreezing temperatures.

Police say Josh Powell is the only person of interest in the case. He moved to Washington State with his two sons in January after losing his job as a computer programmer. Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, live minutes away, but Josh is now refusing visits. Susan's family has expressed concern for the children on a national TV talk show and at a press conference.

"I have concerns about their safety emotionally, at least," said Chuck Cox.

The Cox family also said they believe Susan was a victim of domestic abuse.

"We can say, however, without reservation that Susan was a victim of domestic abuse in her own home," said Shelby Gifford, the family spokeswoman, at a press conference.

The vigils will be held Saturday at 7:00 p.m. in Puyallup, Wash. and at Centennial Park at 3100 S. 5600 West in West Valley City.

The Cox family said they hope the public turns out to support the Search for Susan.

-------------------------------------------------------
in the vid they show pics from the .org site
http://susanpowell.org/Pages/SusanPowell.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 07, 2010, 10:47:14 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on March 07, 2010, 02:47:37 PM
So on Saturday evening, Daniel and her husband gathered with others in West Valley City's Centennial Park to commemorate three months since the day Powell vanished.


Chuck Cox, Powell's father, said he is still "keeping hope alive" that his daughter will be found.

Kiirsi Hellewell, Powell's best friend in West Valley City, said she never expected the search for her friend would have stretched so long.

Joshua Powell did not attend either vigil.


He must have been busy with a Scott Petereson book he has been reading..
He did send in his sister who has been so supporting to his wifes family..
Still loves her brother.

jmho



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 09, 2010, 02:49:38 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d9-Was-Josh-at-a-bar-drinking-the-day-his-wife-was-reported-missing
Was Josh at a bar drinking the day his wife was reported missing? (Video)
March 9, 9:17 AMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnde
March 9, 2010 - Some say Josh Powell, whose wife Susan Cox Powell vanished three months ago, was seen at a bar in Salt Lake City the afternoon Susan was reported missing.

The question is - could Josh have been in the bar at the time of Susan's disappearance?

Debbie Caldwell said, "I suppose anything's possible. I'm thinking ... if that were the case where were the boys? He claims he left around midnight with the boys and arrived home with the boys. But, no one knows where he actually was during that time. I just don't know what to think."

"There were times he was late picking Susan up," she continued. "He claimed he needed the time to do other things, though he never told me where he was or what he was doing, and Susan never mentioned he'd told her. He got off work at 4:30 p.m. and it would be after 6 p.m. before he would show up. I never thought it was my business to ask where he'd been."

"It's never made sense to me," Caldwell added, "that he would take the children away from Utah and away from the only support system they knew."
On Dec. 7, at the "Duces Wild" strip bar in South Lake, a bartender, bouncer, and at least one regular patron told West Valley City police about a week after Susan disappeared that yes, Josh was in the bar.

They said he became belligerent, and that he was one of those patrons you don't easily forget.

One of the bar owners believes that was Josh's first, and only appearance at the bar. He told ABC 4 News, “As far as I know, we’ve only seen him one time. He acted a little bit off the wall."

His co-owner, Kimberly, said, “At one point, I guess, he took somebody else’s beer off the table.” She adds that Powell was talking loudly about what a bad day he was having. “He was belligerent to the other patrons and the girls at the bar,” said Sherman, a regular who explained that he sat next to Powell.

“He just kept saying over and over, ‘I’ve had a really bad day’ and ‘I’ve got a story to tell,” Sherman said. And yet, when he finally asked him, ”What is it?” Powell refused to elaborate.

He caused such a ruckus, that when he left the bar around 4:30 p.m. Sherman said, “Everybody applauded.”

According to ABC 4 News, West Valley detectives did investigate. A department spokesman explained that since there was no surveillance video, they could not verify the story.

A week after Susan disappeared, and after seeing Josh's picture shown on the news, people at the bar said they figured out their guest was Josh Powell.
Sherman said, “He drew my attention because nobody forgets a jerk. And it’s just one of those things that bothered me … When I saw his face on TV I recognized that yeah, that is definitely the guy.”

At least one friend of Susan Powell doubts the bar story because it was “so unlike Josh.”

If it was Josh the question is, where were his two young sons, then ages 2 and 4? Josh's story was that he and his sons left on a camping trip in the middle of the night, the night his wife mysteriously disappeared.

He told police Susan went to bed around midnight, and about a half-hour later, Josh took their sons on an impromptu camping trip in the West Utah Dessert.

Josh's family reported Josh had returned home around 5 p.m. the following day. Initially friends, family, and even police believed the entire family could have died of carbon monoxide poisoning. Unlike Susan, she did not show up to daycare or to work, and did not call anyone.

Her daycare provider called family and when no one answered the door they called police. Police broke into the home and discovered Susan's purse and keys in the house but the family mini-van was missing. Two large box-style fans were aimed at a wet spot on the carpet.

When it was discovered the family was not at home family surmised they could have gone for a ride the evening before and been involved in an auto accident. Police put out an alert on the family.
Finally, later the afternoon of Dec. 7, Josh's sister, Jennifer Graves, was able to reach Josh on his cell phone. She claimed he was in town but that it took him another 30 minutes or more to get home. He then was met by police and told them he had not seen his wife since around midnight the night before.
Sources:
ABC 4 New

video at link


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 09, 2010, 03:12:48 PM
Ridiculous  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Even if Josh was in the bar the day she was reported missing, it has nothing to do with the timeline in question.

No alibi for you Joshy  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on March 09, 2010, 03:34:56 PM

At least one friend of Susan Powell doubts the bar story because it was “so unlike Josh.”  ::MonkeyEek:: Are most of these people just blind or what? Seems to me nobody really knew this character anyway.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on March 09, 2010, 05:02:18 PM
If he did it, he really was reading a book on Scott Peterson, because that is the kind of thing Scott Peterson did after they lost the nightclub and they moved to where his wife eventually disappeared from from what I read.
jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 11, 2010, 08:53:26 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 11, 2010, 09:35:40 AM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 11, 2010, 09:36:28 AM
http://duceswildslc.com/default.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 11, 2010, 09:40:54 AM
Interesting comments
http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=14643707&sec=Utah#1459316


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on March 11, 2010, 12:04:01 PM
Interesting comments
http://www.tribtowns.com/comments/read_comments.asp?ref=14643707&sec=Utah#1459316
Yes very. And Josh that delusional SOB sitting all cozy at daddy's house is thinking I got away with it  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on March 11, 2010, 03:33:04 PM
Mike Catts
Mojave Underground Search and Rescue

mikecatts@mojaveunderground.com

801-830-0596


They specialize in deep mine searches..  ::MonkeyShovel::


http://mojaveunderground.com/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on March 15, 2010, 11:40:46 AM
He gets away with it....

What does that say about our justice system ?
What does that say about people in general ?

Her family and friends are all God believing to a fault? or just plain gutlass ?
Or is it a matter of just complete ignorance ?

I have no idea ..

The lack of just drives me crazy..


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 17, 2010, 07:06:22 AM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9EGAGGG2
Friends to search Utah campsite for missing mom

(AP) – 1 hour ago

SALT LAKE CITY — Friends of a Utah mother missing since December plan a search of the remote desert area where the woman's husband says he was winter camping when she disappeared.

In a Facebook post, Kiirsi Hellewell says a search for Susan Powell will be held April 10 at the Simpson Springs campground area. Hellewell says volunteers are needed to conduct the daylong search.

Simpson Springs is about 110 miles southwest of Salt Lake City near the Pony Express Trail.

Susan Powell was last seen at her West Valley City home on Dec. 7. Her husband Josh Powell told police he saw his wife as he left with the couple's young sons for an overnight desert camping trip.

Police have called Josh Powell a person of interest in the case, but he has not been arrested or charged.
On the Net:

    * _ Friends and Family of Susan Powell: http://tiny.cc/pYRVb


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on March 17, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE-50f71E8ypwigW42nKuDx27hxAD9EGAGGG2
Friends to search Utah campsite for missing mom

(AP) – 1 hour ago

SALT LAKE CITY — Friends of a Utah mother missing since December plan a search of the remote desert area where the woman's husband says he was winter camping when she disappeared.

In a Facebook post, Kiirsi Hellewell says a search for Susan Powell will be held April 10 at the Simpson Springs campground area. Hellewell says volunteers are needed to conduct the daylong search.

Simpson Springs is about 110 miles southwest of Salt Lake City near the Pony Express Trail.

Susan Powell was last seen at her West Valley City home on Dec. 7. Her husband Josh Powell told police he saw his wife as he left with the couple's young sons for an overnight desert camping trip.

Police have called Josh Powell a person of interest in the case, but he has not been arrested or charged.
On the Net:

    * _ Friends and Family of Susan Powell: http://tiny.cc/pYRVb

A comment on the Facebook page:

 Jeff Staheli I am the Assistant Chief of Bridgerland Fire Company based out of Logan. We have a Search and Rescue Team ready to go at a moment's notice. I saw the report on KSL and we would like to extend our services. Most of us are prior or current military, law enforcement and/or firefighter qualified. All of us are qualifie...d Community Emergency Response Team (C.E.R.T.) members through FEMA and are medically trained to provide emergency care. We are very well trained in search and rescue efforts, have all necessary gear and are wanting to help on April 10th. You can count on 6-12 people. You will find further contact information for me through the discussion related to this search. The sooner the response the better as it will allow us more time to coordinate with you. Thank you and we will continue to pray for you.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=198478842187


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 17, 2010, 03:45:22 PM
Deseret Morning News (Salt Lake City) 
March 17, 2010 Wednesday 
 
Volunteers planning search for clues in Susan Powell case

WEST VALLEY CITY - Friends and supporters of Susan Cox Powell are organizing a search effort to look for clues in the case of the missing West Valley mother of two. A group is asking for volunteers to help search the area around the Simpson Springs campground in Tooele County on April 10. West Valley police, however, disclosed Tuesday that they have already conducted several searches in that area over the past three months. "We weren't telling everyone we were doing it, but we were doing it," said West Valley Police Capt.

Tom McLachlan. Simpson Springs is where Josh Powell, Susan Powell's husband, said he took their two young boys camping in their minivan on Dec. 7, about midnight. It was later that day that she was reported missing. Josh Powell's camping story has been the subject of intense public scrutiny. Even members of Susan Powell's family have said they don't believe she would have allowed her husband to take her boys to a remote area at midnight in below freezing weather. Now that the snow has started to melt, the goal of search organizers is to clear the Simpson Springs area once and for all. "We just want to bring closure to the only possible area the general public knows about," said search co-organizer Shawn Sorensen.

"Basically, what we're looking for is any clues that Susan or Josh were in this area. If there are no clues, that is a significant finding in and of itself," said co-organizer JoAnn Bentley. Sorensen has never met Susan Powell or her family. But he said he was captivated by her story and felt the urge to help after seeing news reports about how passionate her friends and family are about finding her.

West Valley police initially conducted a search of the area in December, but their efforts were thwarted by fresh snow. Since then, McLachlan said, investigators have quietly returned to the area. "We have conducted numerous searches, many not publicized," he said, while declining to be specific on how much area was searched and when the last search was conducted.

McLachlan said a volunteer search won't hinder West Valley's investigation, but police do want to coordinate with the group to make sure that if any potential evidence is found, it is handled properly. "Don't put it in a bag and run it in here to show us what you found. Leave it where it is to preserve potential evidence," he said.

A West Valley officer will more than likely be on hand for the search, McLachlan said. Police say Josh Powell has refused to give them a specific location of where he was that night or show them in person where he allegedly went camping. He has been named a person of interest in his wife's disappearance. While the police search involved about 20 people looking for a person, Bentley and Sorensen hope their search will include about 2,000 people looking for any clues in the case.

The group said it received permission from Susan Powell's family to conduct the search. Organizers are asking for people, especially those who own and know how to use a GPS device, to join them in the search. Search parties should be in groups of four, or individuals will be matched with others there to make groups of four. Volunteers are also being asked to carpool to the remote area and bring water. Volunteers will also need to sign a waiver before searching. No one under age 16 will be allowed to search. Teens between the ages of 16 and 18 will need to be accompanied by an adult. The search is scheduled from 9 a.m. until 4 p.m. on April 10.

"We have talked about it over the last month, saying, 'When are we going to do this, when are we going to do this?' Once we got permission to put it on the (Susan Powell) Facebook page, it came about quite quickly," Sorensen said.
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:1145830646&start=2


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: chi-monkey on March 17, 2010, 04:31:33 PM
Wonderful!  It is critical that Susan be found, otherwise Josh may slip free of any charges.  Perhaps her friends aren't as strange as I thought.  Hope not. 

 ::MonkeySlide::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on March 19, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
Missing 30-year old Steven Koecher; police consider Josh Powell's use of rental car possible link


(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Susan/Steven_Koecher_Salt_Lake_Tribune.jpg)


March 1, 2010 - Steven Koecher, an upstanding citizen who served others, who had no criminal or drug-related history, and who seemed happy with his life in St. George, suddenly vanished Dec. 13, 2009 - just six days after Susan Powell disappeared.

Is there a connection between the two cases? It's far-fetched, Steven's family says, but it's worth investigating.

Steven's mother, Deanne Koecher, said the reason they were interested is Susan Powell's case and investigating the possibility the two cases were connected was because of a road trip through Tooele that Josh Powell, Susan's husband, took at around the time Steven disappeared.

Police in Henderson and St. George are not ruling anything out and consider a possible link between the two cases. They are, in particular, interested in the trip Josh Powell took in a rental car.

She said, "It seems far but we welcome any information sharing."

According to police, Steven was last seen at an upscale retirement community in Las Vegas December 13.

Rolf Koecher, Steven's father, said St. George police detectives indicated to him that Susan's family had asked the department to look for any link between the two cases. He told the Deseret News that while he has personally dismissed the notion his family is open to any investigation.

Shelby Gifford, spokeswoman for Susan Powell's family, told The Deseret News Friday she doesn't know whether the family had made such a request but said it was "possible" as Susan's family has asked West Valley to investigate any cases that may reasonably be related.

Susan Powell, 28, disappeared from her West Valley City home Dec. 6. Her husband was the last person to see her. His story that he took his two young sons on an impromptu camping trip in the middle of the night during sub-freezing temperatures the night his wife disappeared has been largely criticized and disbelieved.

Less than a month after she vanished, Josh packed up their family belongings and moved their two young children, then ages 2 and 4, to his father's home in Puyallup, Wash. Nearly three months after her disappearance Josh remains the only person of interest police call a "missing person's case with suspicious criminal overtones."

Rolf Koecher said, "I personally don't think there's a connection, but Dec. 7 she disappeared and he traveled through that area around that date. There's some speculation that he and Susan Powell took off together."

He elaborated in a written statement to Utah television station KCSG:

"While it appears that Steven is close in age to Susan Powell and was driving through the Salt Lake City area within a day or two of her disappearance, any connection between the two seems entirely coincidental to us. Because we want to remain open to all possibilities, no matter how improbable, we have no issue with an exchange of information between the St. George and West Valley City police departments."

"We would be surprised to think there could be a connection," said Deanne. "We just do not want to rule out anything of interest."

Deanne said that before his disappearance, her son had been in Ruby, Nev., and was in northern Utah Dec. 9 -11 before returning to St. George.

During a news conference Friday in Henderson, Nev., officials announced they have found no evidence the 30-year-old traveled out of the area by bus or plane.

About 40 members of Koecher's family attended the news conference in Henderson City Hall.

Koecher's car was found parked in a Sun City Anthem cul-de-sac, an upscale residential community in Henderson, around noon on Dec. 13, the day he disappeared.

A short time later surveillance video of the area from a nearby home's security camera shows a man believed to be Koecher walking away from the car.

Christmas gifts were found in the vehicle and there was no sign of foul play.

No one has come forward saying they have heard from him since that day.

The day Steven went missing is also the last day he used his cell phone, email, and a debit card. It is not believed he left the country because his passport was found during a search of his St. George home.

"It's been two months," said Koecher's father during a Friday news conference in front of Henderson City Hall.

"There's no smoking gun, and we've got hundreds of clues that tell us what it isn't, but not one that tells us what it is," Rolf Koecher told the Review-Journal.

Rolf and Deanne Koecher, Steven's mother, said that so far, all leads have turned up dry.

FOX 13 News interviewed Deanne and said that Steven was happy in his new life in St. George. He moved there from Bountiful a year ago in hopes of landing a new job.

Steven was a recent University of Utah graduate. Before he disappeared he was working for a window washing company in St. George and seemed happy with his job. He faithfully served his church and mentored kids with the Big Brother Program.

Steven's parents Friday offered a $10,000 reward to anyone who can provide information leading to Steven's whereabouts, or the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for his abduction or death.

"We can't believe we can't find him, can't hold him, that we can't tell him how much we love him," Deanna said.

Anyone with information about the disappearance of Susan Powell should contact the West Valley City Police at 801-840-4000.

Anyone with information about the disappearance of Steven Koecher should contact Henderson, NV Police at 702-267-5000 or St George, UT Police at 435-627-4300.

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d1-Missing-30year-old-Steven-Koecher-police-consider-link-consider-Josh-Powells-use-of-rental-car#comments (http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d1-Missing-30year-old-Steven-Koecher-police-consider-link-consider-Josh-Powells-use-of-rental-car#comments)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on March 19, 2010, 03:11:29 PM
Am thinking that there likely is no connection between the missing Steven Koecher and Josh's use of the rental car.   Altho I did post the above info so folks here at SM would know what has been talked about elsewhere. 

Didn't Josh return the rental car on Dec. 10th?  And Steven Koecher was last seen about 400 miles away in Henderson, three days later, on Dec. 13th.     

 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 19, 2010, 03:39:00 PM
All coinkydink...no connection


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 19, 2010, 07:11:34 PM
Susan Cox Powell Update: Tooele Sheriff Deputy on his way to West Desert
March 19, 3:19 PM

March 19, 2010 - Thursday Examiner.com reported that a cement strip the size and shape of a human body was found in the West Desert in Utah by a person searching for clues into the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell.
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID34328/images/100319161637resized_Cement___Abandoned_Gas_Station_from_Linda_Osborne2.jpg)
On February 16 Linda Osborne, who has been searching for clues into Susan's disappearance since December, was out searching in Utah's West Desert. She stumbled upon a concrete strip about 7' long and about 2.5' to 3' wide. One area of the strip was wider than the other, appearing it could be covering a body, the wider area possibly the size of a person's shoulders.

The area where Osborne located the cement strip is off of Hwy 80 near the Skull Valley Road off ramp, There is an old abandoned gas station at Rowley Junction. The cement strip is down a dirt road off of Skull Valley Road at Rowley Junction about 500 to 750 feet from the abandoned gas station.

"This piece of cement is not something that was left behind from the abandoned station. It was clearly poured in its current location," Osborne said.

She reported her findings to West Valley City Police and to the Tooele Sheriff's Department in February. She was dismayed to see no one had followed up and investigated her finding.

Friday Examiner.com spoke with Sheriff Frank Parks who said, "We've got a deputy on his way out there right now to see if he can locate it."

Sheriff Parks said he personally had not seen the email that Osborne sent in February with photos, a map, and description of what she found. Once he learned about the cement strip from Examiner.com he immediately sent a deputy to investigate.

A ground search effort is scheduled April 10 in the Simpson Springs area. Parks said that while the department cannot be involved in coordinating the volunteer ground search effort they do plan to work with those coordinating the search.

Parks said they will provide ground search coordinators with phone numbers and that they have a medical helicopter to assist if it should become necessary.

While their department, like most, are experiencing budget cuts and lack of manpower, Parks plans to have deputies close at hand ready to help if the need arises.

He said, "It should be a very interesting day."

"I would love nothing more than for this family to have closure," Parks said.

Susan Cox Powell was reported missing Dec. 7 from her West Valley City home. Her husband, Josh Powell, is the last known person to see her. He moved with their two young sons to live with his father in his hometown of Puyallup, Wash., less than a month after Susan disappeared.

Josh is the only person of interest in what police call a missing person's case with suspicious criminal overtones.

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d19-Susan-Cox-Powell-Update-Tooele-Sheriff-Deputy-on-his-way-to-West-Desert


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on March 19, 2010, 08:11:42 PM
Am glad this is finally being checked out by LE.   It's sad that the info was reported a month ago, to two different LE agencies, but wasn't acted on until someone from the Examiner asked LE about it.  It's not like LE has been unindated with 1000s of tips and leads in this case, too busy to have followed up on this. 

IMO, more like they didn't want to be bothered, and when the Examiner came knocking, they had to get off their azzes.  Sorry if that's not nice or accurate.  Just seems that way to me.     



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on March 19, 2010, 09:04:48 PM
Am glad this is finally being checked out by LE.   It's sad that the info was reported a month ago, to two different LE agencies, but wasn't acted on until someone from the Examiner asked LE about it.  It's not like LE has been unindated with 1000s of tips and leads in this case, too busy to have followed up on this. 

IMO, more like they didn't want to be bothered, and when the Examiner came knocking, they had to get off their azzes.  Sorry if that's not nice or accurate.  Just seems that way to me.     


Hi Wyks sure looks that way to me also.  Thanks Nut for the article.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on March 20, 2010, 10:13:27 AM
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/88714232.html

(http://media.komonews.com/images/100319_tooele_county.jpg)

Missing woman's father: Visit to campsite 'confirms it'

by KOMO Staff

Originally printed at http://www.komonews.com/news/local/88714232.html

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah -- Susan Powell's father no longer believes his son-in-law's story has any credibility.

This week, Chuck Cox went to Simpson Springs in remote Tooele County in Utah. For the first time, he saw for himself the campground where Josh Powell claims he went the night his wife disappeared.

It has been more than three months since Susan Powell was last seen.

Josh Powell claims he left her at home on the night of Dec. 6 and drove his two boys the two hours to Simpson Springs, where they camped out and cooked s'mores.

Cox always had his doubts about his son-in-law's claims, but he had to see for himself.

He hit the road toward Simpson Springs, turning off the pavement and down the hard-packed dirt road in his car. And for the next hour, he wound his way through hills and down increasingly narrow roads.

"My daughter never would have let him out of the house with the kids that night to go camping," he said.

Josh Powell claims he made the journey down an unlit road with his kids in the dark of night as a major winter storm approached.

Cox believes on that December morning, the pass to the campsite would have been impassible, especially considering Josh Powell was driving a minivan with front-wheel drive and little clearance.

"You get pulled into there, get stuck real easily in a car like this," he said, seeing potentially problematic areas.

At the campground, Cox ran into a scout troop from Riverton. It just so happened the troop was also camping at Simpson Springs on the weekend of Dec. 6, and left just as the flurries were starting.

"i have never been in a camp that cold," one scout said.

To walk among the campsites of Simpson Springs was a revelation for the grieving father. His speculation hardened into belief. He now firmly believes that whatever happened that night did not happen at Simpson Springs.

"It confirms it. The only hard thing is thinking she could be out somewhere... a place like this," said Cox.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 20, 2010, 10:57:28 AM
Does anyone remember if LE reported using Luminol in the home or the vehicle? I don't remember reading of that. If not, then why? I remember they 'tested the wet spot' at the house, but I would guess they have not used Luminol, which they should...asap.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on March 20, 2010, 11:34:55 AM
Does anyone remember if LE reported using Luminol in the home or the vehicle? I don't remember reading of that. If not, then why? I remember they 'tested the wet spot' at the house, but I would guess they have not used Luminol, which they should...asap.
I don't recall that either, I can only hope they did  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on March 20, 2010, 03:44:05 PM
Quote"
Susan Powell's father no longer believes his son-in-law's story has any credibility.
end..


Well... That took awhile.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


As soon as he opened his mouth with the first story I would have beat him senseless.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 20, 2010, 10:39:44 PM
does anyone have a email contact for the cox's, the 4x4 and hiking camp season is
coming to utah, i'd like to suggest they start putting posters at trail-heads, supply stores
gas stations grocery near the parks and wilderness areas, within a hundred mile radius
of salt lake, keep susans name and face out there


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 21, 2010, 07:43:39 AM
This is all I could find

http://www.susancoxpowellfoundation.org/About/Contact.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: akmom on March 21, 2010, 11:50:22 AM
Quote"
Susan Powell's father no longer believes his son-in-law's story has any credibility.
end..


Well... That took awhile.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


As soon as he opened his mouth with the first story I would have beat him senseless.  ::MonkeyDevil::

Seriously, I have not been able to understand her family at all in this.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on March 21, 2010, 05:28:15 PM
Quote"
Susan Powell's father no longer believes his son-in-law's story has any credibility.
end..


Well... That took awhile.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


As soon as he opened his mouth with the first story I would have beat him senseless.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Seriously, I have not been able to understand her family at all in this.

I have to agree her family just seemed so passive...maybe their faith has kept them calm. I would be a blooming idiot if it were my child...I just pray Susan is found soon.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cartfly on March 22, 2010, 12:38:23 AM
Friends of Susan Powell suspect that her body made be hidden in concrete slab

March 21, 8:39 PMSalt Lake City Headlines ExaminerMarci Stone

Friends of Susan Powell suspect that her body made be hidden in concrete slab (see photo)


 Susan Powell’s friends and family members refused to give up the search and have been searching the area of the West Desert in Utah for her body. This is the area that Susan’s husband, Josh said he took the children camping at 12:30 am on December 7, the day that Susan Powell disappeared. Searchers have found what they believe could contain Susan Powell’s body in a cement dump located in the West Desert.

Linda Osbourne is one the searchers. According to ABC 4, Osbourne found the concrete slab that is approximately seven feet long and three feet wide. Osbourne suspects the cement could be covering a body.

Friday, the Tooele County Sheriff's department went out to take a look at the slab. Investigators said that they didn’t believe the slab was suspicious, but intend to go back out Monday and turn the concrete slab over to see if anything can be seen. Investigators have asked that searchers for Susan Powell’s body stay away from the concrete slab until they get a chance to look at it closer.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since December 7, 2010. Josh Powell is the only person who has been named a person of interest in the case. The police have stated that the case is highly suspicious. Josh Powell moved from their Salt Lake City, Utah home to Washington State about a month after his wife disappeared with their children. Josh has not actively participated in the search for Susan.

http://www.examiner.com/x-19632-Salt-Lake-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d21-Friends-of-Susan-Powell-suspect-that-her-body-made-be-hidden-in-concrete-slab-see-photo  (http://www.examiner.com/x-19632-Salt-Lake-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d21-Friends-of-Susan-Powell-suspect-that-her-body-made-be-hidden-in-concrete-slab-see-photo)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: akmom on March 22, 2010, 12:01:05 PM
Friends of Susan Powell suspect that her body made be hidden in concrete slab

March 21, 8:39 PMSalt Lake City Headlines ExaminerMarci Stone

Friends of Susan Powell suspect that her body made be hidden in concrete slab (see photo)


 Susan Powell’s friends and family members refused to give up the search and have been searching the area of the West Desert in Utah for her body. This is the area that Susan’s husband, Josh said he took the children camping at 12:30 am on December 7, the day that Susan Powell disappeared. Searchers have found what they believe could contain Susan Powell’s body in a cement dump located in the West Desert.

Linda Osbourne is one the searchers. According to ABC 4, Osbourne found the concrete slab that is approximately seven feet long and three feet wide. Osbourne suspects the cement could be covering a body.

Friday, the Tooele County Sheriff's department went out to take a look at the slab. Investigators said that they didn’t believe the slab was suspicious, but intend to go back out Monday and turn the concrete slab over to see if anything can be seen. Investigators have asked that searchers for Susan Powell’s body stay away from the concrete slab until they get a chance to look at it closer.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since December 7, 2010. Josh Powell is the only person who has been named a person of interest in the case. The police have stated that the case is highly suspicious. Josh Powell moved from their Salt Lake City, Utah home to Washington State about a month after his wife disappeared with their children. Josh has not actively participated in the search for Susan.

http://www.examiner.com/x-19632-Salt-Lake-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d21-Friends-of-Susan-Powell-suspect-that-her-body-made-be-hidden-in-concrete-slab-see-photo  (http://www.examiner.com/x-19632-Salt-Lake-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d21-Friends-of-Susan-Powell-suspect-that-her-body-made-be-hidden-in-concrete-slab-see-photo)

Thanks cartfly.  They didn't think it was suspicious?????????????????????   Um, so piles of concrete frequently end up out in the desert???????  Do they know how you make concrete?  You don't just pull it out of your back pocket......I hope they get on this quick


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cartfly on March 23, 2010, 12:18:03 AM




Thanks cartfly.  They didn't think it was suspicious?????????????????????   Um, so piles of concrete frequently end up out in the desert???????  Do they know how you make concrete?  You don't just pull it out of your back pocket......I hope they get on this quick
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I know...WTH??? They sound like they couldn't be bothered on the weekend to look into it completely. Honestly, sounds like a bunch of morons running that LE agency. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cartfly on March 23, 2010, 12:45:08 AM
New concerns about planned search for Susan Powell
   
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 9:52 pm
3/22/10

Tooele County campground (ABC 4 News)

TOOELE COUNTY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - In just under three weeks, as many as two thousand volunteers could descend on Simpson Springs in rural Tooele County to search for clues to the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell. Susan's husband, Josh Powell says he was camping at Simpson Springs with his two small boys the night she vanished.

But there is growing concern over that search from the Tooele County Sheriff, the Cox family and the Bureau of Land Management.

The BLM's concerns: Where are all those searchers going to park? Even if they come four to a car, two thousand searchers would mean 500 cars in a place that can't handle a fraction of that number. What's more, taking any vehicle off the roads is strictly forbidden.

On Friday, Chuck Cox journeyed with ABC 4 to Simpson Springs. He made it clear the family does not endorse the search. "We're not part of that search," he said.

Primarily, the family is worried for the safety of the volunteers. "Depending on how many people you had up here, it could be dangerous," Cox explained. "I don't know that it would be worth the risk."

Tooele County Sheriff Frank Park said he's already said "no" to taking over the search. "No chance at all. We'll be there -- we'll be present -- but I can't handle that kind of liability to have two-thousand volunteers marching through the desert. No way," he said.

In fact, Sheriff Park said individual searchers are already putting a strain on his resources. He said hardly a weekend goes by with a handful of tips coming in about suspicious mounds. "They've found a lot of interesting things, but nothing to do with Susan Powell." In many cases, he said people have found the remote grave of a family pet.

Still, his deputies investigate every tip. Sheriff Park emphasized, "Volunteers are great. People out on their own are great. It's just becoming a continual drain on our resources."
Chuck Cox added, "We need to let the police do the police work."

The Cox family remains very grateful for all the people who are willing to help them in their time of desperate need. But the family believes the help is needed elsewhere, not in Utah's west desert.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/New-concerns-about-planned-search-for-Susan-Powell/4bqHjEihG0K1aYZpBxo0iQ.cspx (http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/New-concerns-about-planned-search-for-Susan-Powell/4bqHjEihG0K1aYZpBxo0iQ.cspx)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 23, 2010, 12:15:48 PM
Brent Hunsaker - My ride to the west desert with Susan Powell’s father.

Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 10:07 am
SIMPSON SPRINGS, Tooele County (ABC 4 News) - In the last three months, Chuck Cox has had to learn a new skill. Besides being a husband and father, a career FAA man and devout Mormon, he’s now also a tightrope walker.

Chuck has learned the balancing act.

He walks a thin line between keeping up the pressure on Josh Powell to cooperate with police while not becoming his prosecutor and judge.

He’s also keeping up the pressure on police investigators while not becoming a drain on their resources.

And for the thousands of people in Utah, Washington and around the world who have rallied in this time of great need, he’s had to balance expressions of gratitude and encouragement with caution that they not do anything that puts them in peril.

With that as backdrop, Friday afternoon photographer Matt Lee and I met Chuck Cox and his friend, Mike Gifford, in the parking lot of the McDonald’s in Tooele where we began our journey into the west desert. The afternoon was mostly Sunny, with the temperature in the mid-40’s. There was also a cold, gusting wind that bit through jackets and made eyes water.

The cold and the isolation of the place were something of a revelation.

Chuck had almost made it out to Simpson Springs the previous day with a police detective. But after a few miles down the dirt road of the old Pony Express Trail, he said he “got the point” and asked to turn around. He did not wish to waste the detective’s time.

As we drove that next day I had no idea how after we would go. This was only my 2nd trip down the trail and my first to Simpson Springs. I too wanted to see for myself this place where Josh Powell says he took his boys on the night his wife disappeared, but I deferred to Chuck the final decision. It is his daughter who is missing and his son-in-law’s story. We would go only as far as he wanted to go.

We stopped once after we'd left the pavement – about as far as he’d gone the day before. We talked for a few minutes, swapped passengers – Matt got into Chuck’s minivan so he could take a few pictures – and went a little farther.

We stopped again at the top of Lookout Pass. Gazing out over the expanse to the west of us, I tried to gage the direction and distance to the Springs. (Turns out I was off by a few degrees and more than a few miles. I am no Sacagawea.) Still, we resolved to keep going.

16 miles and 40 minutes later, we arrived at our destination: The campgrounds at Simpson Springs.

There wasn’t much to the place; a stone monument, a stone building and a few scattered stone remnants of other pioneer era structures. The campgrounds were little more than small clearings with fire pits scattered among the trees and brush of the hillside.

Chuck wandered alone for a long time.

We shot more pictures, but maintained a respectful distance. Even later when we did our final interview of that day, I felt it best not to pry too deeply into what was going through his mind as he walked down the several paths and through the brush.

I surmised he was searching more for a feeling than a thing. He wanted to know if his daughter’s fate was somehow tied to this place. And he seemed to come away more determined than ever that the answer would not be found there.

I believe that is why the Cox family has now come out with even stronger statements of caution about the planned search of the Simpson Springs area on April 10th.

Yes, they worry about the dangers involved in searching such a remote area with a large group of volunteers of varying skills and abilities. The family did not ask for the search nor are they involved its organization. Yet if someone were to get hurt, it would only add to the burden that already weighs on them.

But it is more than that. They fear it would be a waste of the time and energies of a lot of good and kind people.

I believe that’s what he came away with after finally seeing the west desert and tracing its dusty roads.

On the high wire, Chuck Cox is also trying to balance the welfare of “the ninety and nine” while still going after she who is lost.
http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4/blogs/story/Brent-Hunsaker-My-ride-to-the-west-desert-with/fkTWAxuCK0eg60RkyrnE6g.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mizjay on March 23, 2010, 06:27:48 PM
Friends of Susan Powell suspect that her body made be hidden in concrete slab

March 21, 8:39 PMSalt Lake City Headlines ExaminerMarci Stone

Friends of Susan Powell suspect that her body made be hidden in concrete slab (see photo)


 Susan Powell’s friends and family members refused to give up the search and have been searching the area of the West Desert in Utah for her body. This is the area that Susan’s husband, Josh said he took the children camping at 12:30 am on December 7, the day that Susan Powell disappeared. Searchers have found what they believe could contain Susan Powell’s body in a cement dump located in the West Desert.

Linda Osbourne is one the searchers. According to ABC 4, Osbourne found the concrete slab that is approximately seven feet long and three feet wide. Osbourne suspects the cement could be covering a body.

Friday, the Tooele County Sheriff's department went out to take a look at the slab. Investigators said that they didn’t believe the slab was suspicious, but intend to go back out Monday and turn the concrete slab over to see if anything can be seen. Investigators have asked that searchers for Susan Powell’s body stay away from the concrete slab until they get a chance to look at it closer.

Susan Powell, 28, has been missing since December 7, 2010. Josh Powell is the only person who has been named a person of interest in the case. The police have stated that the case is highly suspicious. Josh Powell moved from their Salt Lake City, Utah home to Washington State about a month after his wife disappeared with their children. Josh has not actively participated in the search for Susan.

http://www.examiner.com/x-19632-Salt-Lake-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d21-Friends-of-Susan-Powell-suspect-that-her-body-made-be-hidden-in-concrete-slab-see-photo  (http://www.examiner.com/x-19632-Salt-Lake-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d21-Friends-of-Susan-Powell-suspect-that-her-body-made-be-hidden-in-concrete-slab-see-photo)

Thanks cartfly.  They didn't think it was suspicious?????????????????????   Um, so piles of concrete frequently end up out in the desert???????  Do they know how you make concrete?  You don't just pull it out of your back pocket......I hope they get on this quick

Any word on this yet?  I'm assuming they meant they'd return yesterday  unless of course it's a Monday 2 weeks from now......in complete astonishment on how this case is being (man)handled


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 23, 2010, 07:40:08 PM
ita...no word yet.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on March 23, 2010, 07:53:30 PM
If Josh said he went right on the night in question .. Then, He most certainly went left..

Just watch him talk with that reporter in the first interview..and when asked where he went camping, Josh stutters .. Just like a child that lies. he made up a lie and spit it out.

He lied and he never went to the area he mentioned..


jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 24, 2010, 07:40:36 AM
Bingo, Edward.....Bingo


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: akmom on March 24, 2010, 10:02:00 AM
Has Tim Miller or anyone from TES been looking for Susan???


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 24, 2010, 04:54:18 PM
No...they have to be asked by a family member, I believe.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: akmom on March 25, 2010, 01:09:28 AM
No...they have to be asked by a family member, I believe.

UGH, that does not look good to happen then, huh?????


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: suzyinpgh on March 25, 2010, 09:05:52 AM
This is the most frustrating case that I ever followed.  It seems like nothing is being done.  LE  doesn't want to do their job.  Why?  Are we ever going to find out about the wet spot that was being dried out by fans. 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 25, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
good questions


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 25, 2010, 10:13:45 AM

BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on March 25, 2010, 12:51:11 PM
The warrants also discuss witnesses who "could face a substantial risk of possible harm" if identified, the order states.   ::MonkeyEek:: Risk from who?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 25, 2010, 10:28:50 PM
The warrants also discuss witnesses who "could face a substantial risk of possible harm" if identified, the order states.   ::MonkeyEek:: Risk from who?

i hope their not talking about the children, but how would they get to that idea,
from the developing evidence


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on March 26, 2010, 02:01:28 AM
An innocent comment from one/both of the kids may have tipped the scales for LE.   If so, they will not want to let that info out, not even to the 'family'.  Those boys have been whisked away into another state by their father, who still very well *could be* the one responsible for whatever happened to Susan.  The boys have to live with him 24/7.  I'd think their safety would be priority at this point.  Just in case... ya know?   

I don't even know if that's who LE is talking about, but it sure is the first thing I thought of. 





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 27, 2010, 07:21:58 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=10159431

Tooele County sheriff has concerns about search for Susan Powell
March 26th, 2010 @ 6:14pm
By Alex Cabrero

TOOELE COUNTY -- It's been nearly four months since West Valley mother Susan Powell was reported missing. Her friends are launching a massive search for her.

That search will be in the West Desert, starting at Simpson Springs, and the Tooele County sheriff has some concerns. Sheriff Frank Park is worried a lot of people going out there don't really know what desert conditions are like, and he doesn't want anyone with good intentions to get hurt.

The volunteer search for Susan, scheduled for April 10, will include a massive operation in Tooele County's West Desert by Powell's friends.
The heart of a volunteer should never be questioned. They do a great job, and they're there to help," Park says.

The sheriff says he's heard from search organizers there could be 2,000 volunteers, which makes him a little nervous.

"My major concerns are the accountability for the people coming and going. If we've got 2,000 people showing up, we want to make sure we got 2,000 people coming back," Park says.

Simpson Springs is where the search will be based. It's where Josh Powell said he was camping the night his wife was last seen at their West Valley home, but it's not the easiest place to search.

"In our desert, there are mine shafts; there's unexploded ordinances," Park says. "This time of year, with the animals giving birth or coming out of the stressful winter. There's a lot of dangers."

Tooele County detectives have been busy. In the past few months, they've had several reports of piles of bones that turned out to be dogs.

"We get calls," Park says.

One caller told Park that he noticed some dirt that was disturbed at a grave site in the old mining town of Mercur. Detectives went out there and dug all the way to the coffin. They didn't find anything, but these kinds of tips are something the sheriff says they always have to follow.

"We are continually, on the weekends and the first of the week, following up on information and reports of something suspicious out in the middle of the desert," Park says.

There are a lot of people hoping one of those tips, or next
month's search, turns into something real.

"Hopefully, it'll be a safe, great day; and the concern of everybody throughout the country is to get closure for this family. If that happens, that's great," Park says.

One of the organizers of the search says the snow is starting to melt. She's hoping that will help someone find something.

E-mail: acabrero@ksl.com
Video at link.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 27, 2010, 08:18:01 AM
So, did they turn over that concrete slab yet??


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on March 27, 2010, 10:01:58 AM
So, did they turn over that concrete slab yet??
I would sure hope so  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 27, 2010, 01:30:15 PM
So, did they turn over that concrete slab yet??

I found this Nut.
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m3d23-Susan-Cox-Powell-Update-on-cement-strip-found-in-West-Desert
Susan Cox Powell: Update on cement strip found in West Desert
March 23, 10:04 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder
March 23, 2010 - Linda Osborne, who has been searching the West Desert since early December for missing Utah mom, Susan Cox Powell, stumbled upon a piece of cement the size and shape of a human body that, thankfully, turned out to be nothing more than a piece of cement.

The odd-shaped cement had many concerned that it might have been covering a body.

On Friday, Deputy N. Collins attempted to locate the cement strip. Sheriff Frank Park requested Osborne return to the site Saturday to meet Deputy Collins to determine if what he found was indeed the cement strip in question.

Once the deputy confirmed the cement strip he requested Osborne stay away from the strip. Osborne said, "The deputy requested I not get any closer in order to protect possible evidence. We were about 25' away from the cement strip."

Osborne mentioned to Deputy Collins that the cement strip looked like it could possibly be a body because of the shape.
Deputy Collins said to her, "It very well could be."

Sheriff Park then told Examiner.com he would have his detective unit go flip the cement to see if anything was underneath.

Tuesday Examiner.com received an email from Sheriff Park that said, "It was just discarded cement from a few years back and undisturbed soil."

Osborne is pleased the Tooele Sheriff's department investigated the cement.

Sheriff Park said he did not receive Osborne's email she sent in February with a map, photo, and description of the cement. Once he learned about the cement strip, he acted on it.


Initially Osborne thought the cement strip could be covering Susan's body, but after further inspection of the cement strip, she determined it was most likely not wide enough in the hip area. The concern was that it could have been covering a child's body.

Susan Cox Powell, 28, went missing from her West Valley City home Dec. 6. Her husband, Josh Powell, is the last known person to see her when she went to bed at midnight. He told police and media that just after Susan went to bed he took their two young sons, then ages 2 and 4, on an overnight camping trip.

It was snowing that night and temperatures were subfreezing. He claims he forgot what day it was and that he went camping because he and his boys liked to do S'Mores. He said when he returned the following day his wife had disappeared and he didn't know where she was.

His story has been largely criticized and disbelieved.
Josh Powell is the only person of interest in what police call a missing person's case with suspicious criminal overtones.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 27, 2010, 01:50:30 PM
Thanks  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I think he burned her in a firepit somewhere...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 27, 2010, 02:50:12 PM
since it was bad weather that nite in at least a 50 mile radius.
and josh was driving a van with the boys in it, i dont think he would
use any roads that are real hazardous for driving. but in utah, there
are cliffs and canyons, on the main roads, just pull over and drop the
body over, i think its time for an aerial search, b4 the over growth starts
i bet their is someone who would donate a day or two, and fuel to the
search, ill give 20$ towards it
if youve never been to utah, its a vast wilderness,that the cities are
perched on, leave the city limits, and your back to the wilderness


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mizjay on March 31, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
Thanks  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I think he burned her in a firepit somewhere...  ::MonkeyNoNo::
me too.   


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on March 31, 2010, 12:56:04 PM
It would be a God Awful order if he did that and they boys would remember that smell forever.

I wont throw it out but a open fire is risky ...... anyone could walk up on to it and aircraft see it from overhead..

Ever try to start a fire in the snow ?


In a ditch with a Log On Top.
In a ditch with Rock on top.
Between two boulders.
In a deep mine shaft.
Buried under sand.

LE does not even have a true direction of travel.

He made dinner and his wife ate that food.. He controlled the situation complete with witness as to her well being and his relationship with his wife as upbeat.
He controlled the news release as to direction of travel.
His kids were asleep in the vehicle. he controlled that too.

she wanted to end the family.. He made sure that came true..

Anything is possible here. Including her showing up alive.. Time will pass and people will forget.
He is betting on it.
jmho



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on March 31, 2010, 11:57:40 PM
Quote
Anything is possible here. Including her showing up alive.. Time will pass and people will forget.
He is betting on it.
jmho

well hes SOL, her parents wont nor will we

LE does not even have a true direction of travel
right only his word, another controller he set up

the wilds of utah are vast, but people still wander through
its just a matter of time josh powell


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: jen3560 on April 01, 2010, 10:45:58 AM
Thanks  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I think he burned her in a firepit somewhere...  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I don't think he's that ambitious Nut.  I have thought from the beginning that he did indeed go into the west desert, but not to Simpson Springs.  The easiest thing he could have done, considering the ground was frozen everywhere along the Wasatch Front, was take her out to the sand dunes at Knolls, dig thru a little bit of sand, and drive away.  Ground wasn't frozen there, and there was no snow on the ground.

The winds out there can be monstrous, so if he did put here there, and is as lazy as he appears to be - the winds could have shifted the sand enough that she could be visible.

There are usually a ton of people out there over Easter weekend (for recreational purposes), so that could stir things up a bit as well.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on April 01, 2010, 11:44:39 AM
That could also explain the wind burns on his face and hands noted by a neighbor.
I did not know how close the sand dunes were to this situation but that could make sense.
Wonder if LE found any sand in his vehicle or in the cloth he was wearing.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 01, 2010, 12:35:10 PM
interesting jen  :2thinky:


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 01, 2010, 12:57:33 PM
Volunteer ground search organizers optimistic about April 10 search for Susan Cox Powell (Slideshow)
Photos of West Desert courtesy of Linda Osborne, photos of Susan Cox Powell courtesy of Susan's friends and family

April 1, 2010 - Search organizers are optimistic and are moving forward with the April 10 ground search effort for clues into the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell. Because of the search they have faith that something will be found before or during the search.

Safety, logistical, and liability concerns have been raised by law enforcement and Susan's family. Search organizers will issue a press release Friday addressing those concerns.

Examiner.com will publish the press release Friday and will keep its readers updated as information becomes available.

In the meantime, David Schirado, the Battalion Chief for Bridgerland Fire Company, posted on the Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook page that his company has been put in charge of the medical portion of the search on April 10.

"Being an all volunteer group," he said, "we have been seeking sponsors to buy the necessary supplies our team needs to assure a safe search for everyone and to deal with emergencies."

Schirado says hopefully no one will be injured during the search but they will be ready should the need arise.

"If anyone would like to be a sponsor they can email us at bridgerlandfire@gmail.com," Schirado said. "Any donations will need to be received by April 5 so we can get our order in and receive it by the search date. I look forward to working with everyone on April 10."

Comments have been made that searching the Simpson Springs area makes no sense since police say they've intensely searched the area. However, combing an area after police have searched is not uncommon.

In the case of Morgan D. Harrington, 20, who disappeared in Virginia, Ed Smart went to assist in organizing a ground search effort where police had already searched. Smart said, "Searchers can go over an area three times before they find something."

When one Texas man went missing about 200 volunteers searched far and wide. It was the largest search people had seen in their county. The Fire Chief said, "Basically we're combing back over the area, we have more resources now to go back over the area to really get after it with canines and horseback and really go over the area with a fine tooth comb and try to find this missing person."

In early January, when Susan had been missing less than a month, Shelby Gifford, spokesperson for Susan's family, said, "The family is very aware of the offers to help [in a volunteer ground search effort] and are cataloging those offers of service and so are the police. When and if the time comes we will use as many of those services as needed. The family expresses a great deal of gratitude for what people are doing.”

Susan has been missing for nearly four months. Her friends and family have done an excellent job in keeping Susan's name and photo in the media.

However, Susan is still missing and the public has received no new information from police indicating they are any closer to finding her.

People have anxiously awaited springtime so people can go out and physically search for clues into Susan's disappearance.

Organizers of the search have said they are optimistic good will come from this search. They are looking for like-minded professionals to gather to search the West Desert for clues into Susan's disappearance. More information will be provided of the role of the general public in Friday's press release.

Organizers told Examiner.com they have received an overwhelming response, including offers from trained professionals. Some are experienced search and rescue teams, some have firefighting experience, others have medical experience, and even those with prior or current military experience have volunteered to join in the search.

There has been an outpouring of support from people who are passionate about this search and the good it will bring. Many of Susan's friends and family are excited about the huge media exposure the search will undoubtedly bring, as they believe it is vital to keep Susan's story in the news.

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m4d1-Volunteer-ground-search-organizers-optimistic-about-April-10-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-Slideshow


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2010, 11:36:59 AM
In the latest Enquirer:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/NE041210SusanPowell.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on April 03, 2010, 12:29:49 PM
Mike Catts
Mojave Underground Search and Rescue

mikecatts@mojaveunderground.com

801-830-0596


They specialize in deep mine searches..  ::MonkeyShovel::


http://mojaveunderground.com/

I agree..
Most likely in a mine shaft... Do not call the ghosts busters, call these people instead.
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 03, 2010, 02:04:57 PM
EDWARD!! You're Psychic!!   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on April 03, 2010, 02:08:53 PM
lol.. Nope.. I am just One Monkey amongst many.

 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on April 03, 2010, 08:45:26 PM


BLOCKED WEBSITE


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 04, 2010, 07:24:17 PM

Friends and family of Susan Cox Powell offer the public an alternative to ground searching

(friends and family need response Wed., April 7)

www.Examiner.com

April 10 Ground search effort for Susan Cox Powell

Cache County, Utah (April 2, 2010) - The outpouring of support from the public and from professionals for the April 10 ground search for clues into Susan Cox Powell's disappearance has been greatly appreciated. While appreciative of the search efforts, the Susan Cox Powell Foundation, her family and her friends, are not affiliated with the search.

Organizers of the search have also received an overwhelming response from trained professionals with offers to help. Some are experienced search and rescue teams while others have firefighting, medical, law enforcement, and military experience.

All of those professionals who have come forward to volunteer their time, equipment, and expertise would not pass up the opportunity to help a fellow citizen. Tooele County Sheriff's Department and West Valley City Police Department, among others, have expressed concerns in regard to a large-scale volunteer ground search in the West Desert. Among concerns raised are safety, logistical, liability issues, the possible destruction of evidence, searchers becoming lost or injured, searchers encountering wildlife, parking issues, spotty cell phone reception, and no medical facility within 50 miles, among other concerns.

The liability issue raised concerns for everyone involved and prompted search organizers to re-evaluate and eventually cede command of the search to qualified professionals. In response to those concerns the April 10 search for Susan Powell will now be conducted by a group of certified and trained professionals capable of carrying out a sophisticated search.

It has been determined that a smaller, more manageable search would be safer and more effective. For this reason we are no longer asking for the support of the general public in the ground search. We regret that the search is now closed to the public. We are very appreciative of everyone who has shown their willingness to help and hope they continue to show their support in what is best for finding Susan.

Only professionally certified organizations with proper identification and pre-approval from the search organizers will be allowed to participate in the search. It is our hope that a skilled approach to searching will bring quicker results and will encourage other professionals to consider assisting in the search.

If your certified organization would like to help with the search, please e-mail the Incident Commander, Jon Watkins at bridgerlandfire@hotmail.com. Those who would like to donate resources or money to the qualified professionals now conducting the search, may e-mail us at searchdonations@hotmail.com.

We are very appreciative of everyone who has shown their willingness to help. We ask that you keep Susan, her family, and the many trained professionals who will be combing the on April 10 in your thoughts and prayers.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 04, 2010, 07:28:42 PM

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Susan/josh-susan.jpg)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 07:07:11 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 05, 2010, 07:08:13 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/04/05/Volunteers-excluded-from-search-for-woman/UPI-91911270508102/
Volunteers excluded from search for woman
Published: April 5, 2010 at 6:55 PM
SALT LAKE CITY, April 5 (UPI) -- A group of Utah volunteers who planned to assist in the search for a missing mother of two will not be allowed to join the effort, authorities said.

Cache County residents had planned to help look for Susan Cox Powell, who disappeared from her West Valley City, Utah, home Dec. 7, 2009 under suspicious circumstances, The Salt Lake Tribune reported Monday.

The search area is in the region where Powell's husband, Joshua Powell, told police he went camping with the couple's two young boys the night his wife disappeared, the Tribune said. Local police and sheriffs say the search area in Utah's western desert is dangerous and volunteers could be at risk.

The search would be limited to trained professionals, Bridgerland Fire Co. Chief Jon Watkins said.

"Among concerns raised are safety, logistical, liability issues, the possible destruction of evidence, searchers becoming lost or injured, searchers encountering wildlife, parking issues, spotty cell phone reception, and no medical facility within 50 miles," Watkins said. "We are very appreciative of everyone who has shown their willingness to help. We ask that you keep Susan, her family, and the many trained professionals who will be combing the (area) on April 10 in your thoughts and prayers."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 05, 2010, 07:40:52 PM
It doesn't really matter anyway.....because he was not there that night. Like he would actually tell the police where he was?? Of course not...it's a ruse to steer them in the wrong direction.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: ISpy on April 07, 2010, 04:31:48 AM
The key thing for LE is pinpointing about what time Josh Powell left on his little excursion.  In an ideal world, they could then determine how far he conceivably could have gone (max. distance out and back) by the time he left and the time he returned.  Using that info, LE could establish a perimeter for the distance traveled.  Again, in an ideal world, the idea would be to have LE/trained searchers start at the edge of that circle and work their way in towards the Powell home.  Looks great on paper, but hard to transfer to the real world of budget cuts, understaffing, rough terrain, and no witnesses to Josh's departure.  However, we can hope there are forensic clues on that rental car, the boy's car seats/buckles, the boys' bedtime stuffed animals/blankets, etc.  Wonder if there is any children's cold meds/allergy meds in Josh's medicine cabinet that may have some pre-excursion DNA?  Just thinking out loud here.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 07, 2010, 09:21:11 AM
New Organizers move forward with plans to search for Susan Powell
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 4/06 4:09 am
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - There is less than a week to go before the Simpson Springs search for clues in the disappearance of Susan Powell and there are big changes. The original search organizers have stepped aside and the new organizers have closed the search to the general public. It is now for "professionals" only.

This does not mean the search is closed. Volunteers are still welcome, they just have to have certain skills. Chris Willden of Strategic Tactical Group explained, "Individuals are going to have to show some sort of documentation that they've got a background in search and rescue, law enforcement or military or even public safety as far as EMS, medical or fire."

Monday night in a restaurant in Ogden, the first face-to-face meeting was held with the new organizers. Some of those present represent teams with search dogs, others have military and law enforcement training.

There's even a flight instructor who represents a group of pilots with powered parachutes. Their craft is well suited for searches. It can fly low and slow and has unrestricted visibility.

Still, there are hundreds of volunteers who were counting on participating in the search at Simpson Springs who are no longer welcome. Obviously there is disappointment and even some hurt feelings. Even though the family of Susan Cox Powell did not endorse the search, Kiirsi Hellewell understands those feelings, "The idea of doing a search is something that a lot of people have wanted to do since Susan disappeared and were very excited about."
Kiirsi Hellewell is offering an alternative activity. It won't be the west desert, just West Valley. And it won't be searching, just passing out fliers and perhaps a pot luck lunch. Hellewell said, "It's just to let people know that we're still here. We still need information and we need to help the police in any way possible."

For more information on the alternative activity, click here.

If you are a certified organization and would like to help with the search, please e-mail the Incident Commander, Jon Watkins at bridgerlandfire@hotmail.com.

Those who would like to donate resources or money to the search, please e-mail searchdonations@hotmail.com.
Copyright 2010 Newport Television LLC All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4/links_numbers/story/New-Organizers-move-forward-with-plans-to-search/kdSwdZQBbE-rEUEpuub9GQ.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on April 07, 2010, 11:10:08 AM
The key thing for LE is pinpointing about what time Josh Powell left on his little excursion.  In an ideal world, they could then determine how far he conceivably could have gone (max. distance out and back) by the time he left and the time he returned.  Using that info, LE could establish a perimeter for the distance traveled.  Again, in an ideal world, the idea would be to have LE/trained searchers start at the edge of that circle and work their way in towards the Powell home.  Looks great on paper, but hard to transfer to the real world of budget cuts, understaffing, rough terrain, and no witnesses to Josh's departure.  However, we can hope there are forensic clues on that rental car, the boy's car seats/buckles, the boys' bedtime stuffed animals/blankets, etc.  Wonder if there is any children's cold meds/allergy meds in Josh's medicine cabinet that may have some pre-excursion DNA?  Just thinking out loud here.

That would be anywhere from the time after dinner where the friend leaves and Susan takes a nap.. once the children were put to sleep the game was on.
 When you look at the first video of josh talking to the reporter he is fabricating lies..It is obvious in his expression..
But he says he got a late start.. after 9 ..
But, The neighbor that hears the alarm on the car go off is out best idea of beginning time of travel.
Meds stay in the blood for a long time so the children should have been blood checked on return of Josh to see if they were drugged.
He should have been named suspect and children put with grandparents right off the bat to destabilize Josh.
The children are the trick to release of Josh's screwed up mind.

Poor Susan.
jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on April 07, 2010, 12:51:21 PM
http://www.strategictacticalgroup.com/album.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 09:56:35 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m4d7-Susan-Cox-Powell-has-been-missing-four-months-she-is-far-from-forgotten-Slideshow
Susan Cox Powell has been missing four months; she is far from forgotten (Slideshow)
April 7, 9:12 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder
April 7, 2010 - It's been four months ago today since Susan Cox Powell, 28, was reported missing and she is far from forgotten.

Her friends, family, and the 46,000+ people who have gotten to know and love Susan, will not rest until she is found and until justice is served. They will do this for Susan, and they will do this for Susan's children, Charlie, 5, and Braden, 3.

Below are comments her friends, family, and Facebook group members have shared on the Friends of Susan Powell Facebook group, the Where is Susan Powell Facebook group, and on the Service for Susan website. Some have known Susan for years, while some have never even met her:

From the Service for Susan Website:

This was written by Kirsii Hellewell, Susan's best friend:

Four months ago today, Susan Cox Powell disappeared from her home.

Her family and friend’s lives were shattered. We never believed this could happen to someone we know—especially Susan, a person who lights up people’s lives and makes everyone smile when she walks into a room. Everyone loves her.

We never believed it would drag on this long and that four months later, we still wouldn’t have answers or that Susan would still be missing.

But there’s still hope—hope that we will find her. We believe we will. We know the police are working day and night to bring her home, and that many thousands of kind and wonderful people the world over are praying and putting time, effort and money into finding her. As I write this, plans are in place to mount a large-scale ground search in Utah’s west desert this Saturday.
Today—both four months since Susan went missing and what would have been Susan’s 9-year wedding anniversary—I’d like to share a little bit about Susan and what kind of person she is. This comes from a church newsletter in Susan’s ward, written in November 2009, just one month before she disappeared. The ladies did an interview “Spotlight” on her as they often do with one or the other of the women in our ward to help everyone get to know each other better. Here it is:

Spotlight: Susan Powell

Susan is the third of four girls and was raised in western Washington state. She and Josh got married in 2001 and moved to Utah in 2004. She has two sons, Charlie and Braden.

Her favorite foods are Greek and Italian. Popcorn and spaghetti are like chocolate to her. Her food philosophy is “Cheese, peanut butter, ranch dressing or A-1 sauce makes anything taste good.”

Her favorites are: color = forest green, lavender/lilac purple; songs = “I Don’t Understand,” “Which Part is Mine” and “Celebrating the Light” by Michael McLean; books = anything murder/mystery, especially Mary Higgins Clark; movies = Enchanted, Get Smart, and most Disney movies.

Her hobbies are: crocheting, doing yard work, cleaning, doing hair, American Sign Language, yoga and pilates.

Her favorite places to go are Washington State to see her family and to be outside hiking and camping. She would love to go to Hawaii with her husband.
She is a licensed series 7 and 63 stockbroker, real estate agent and cosmetologist. She highly believes in saving money by growing a garden and becoming more self-sufficient with your food storage.

Thoughts shared on the Family and Friends of Susan Powell Facebook group:

Holly Stafford Wesley wrote Susan a poem:

We think of you today, but that is nothing new, we thought about you yesterday, and days before that, too. We think of you in silence, we often speak your name. All we have are memories and a picture in a frame. Your memory is a keepsake, from which we'll never part. God has an Angel to watch over you. We have you in our hearts!

Tina Anderson wrote:

"The thoughts of the season brought me back to thoughts of Susan. My prayers are with you all. I wish the searchers luck this coming weekend, and my heart aches for the loss that is being felt by all. God Bless, and with luck, bring Susan home."

Sonja Stewart wrote:

"Oh Susan. My heart still aches for you. Easter got me thinking of you and your boys. They didn't have Mommy to share in the joy and wonder of Easter and egg hunts. The purple bow still hangs where I can see it every day. Until you are brought home to the family and friends who love you so much it hurts, the ribbon will hang for you. Much love to Susan's family and friends. Again and again I will shed a tear for all of you."
Kristin Rothwell Payne wrote:

"Praying for new information to come to light this weekend. For those searching, please be careful. For those praying, don't give up. For those hoping, keep the faith."

Glenda Ryser wrote:

"Somehow it just doesn't seem like 4 months have passed. Although I don't personally know Susan, I feel sadness in my heart that she's still not been found. God bless her precious baby boys who I KNOW are missing their mommy and asking daddy where she is! … My heart breaks for those tiny boys! I'm confused, as I know we all are. God bless Susan... Father God, show us.... show us...."

Thoughts shared on the Where is Susan Powell Facebook group:

Lorren Kelly wrote:

"Whoever is responsible for Susan going missing should know that she has never left her friends, her boys, her family and other loved ones. Each and every one of us has Susan in our hearts and she will remain there."

"Susan hasn't been seen since Dec 7th, but since then her beautiful smile has shone for so many people," Kelly said. "Susan is missing but not forgotten. She will always be around, everyday in her boys. She cannot just be erased.

Kate Bower wrote:

"Susan has touched the lives of thousands all around the world...we won't let her be forgotten. We will find her and bring her home, we will ensure her precious boys know the truth as they grow and we won't let who ever harmed her get away with it!!!"

Linda Blair wrote:

"How is it that we can miss her so much and we didn't know her? I feel that is is part of my very extended family. I see her smile and feel her laughter and warmth....Susan come back to us...."

Debbie Caldwell wrote:

I know one day we will all look back and some how understand this better. It's the time between now and then that is driving me crazy. It's going to be a warm weekend here so My hubby and I are going to go look some more up by where Susan worked to see if we can get any clues to where she might be. We are trying to rule out all our theories and some of yours. The problem is the needle in the haystack. I'm counting on everyone getting out this year and enjoying the great out doors. ;)"

Linda Osborne wrote of the search on Saturday:

"It's great to hear about the powered parachutes! There are some ravines that are very difficult to access on foot. If any are equiped with video it would be that much better as things could be later viewed on high resolution monitors. Although this search effort has had is ups and downs, I'm very optimistic and hope there will be many more searches after this one."
Caryn Macquet Fortune wrote:

"Susan gave Josh the deadline of April 6th to turn his behavior around and start making their marriage something worth fighting for. This is their wedding anniversary, if I remember correctly. How I wish we could find her in time for her to keep this deadline. Even if we don't find her by tomorrow, I believe we'll find ...her very soon. And Susan WILL have the last word. She deserves at least that. And, finally, her precious sons will get the love and care that they, too, so deserve."

Linda Blair wrote:

"I wonder if he [Josh] will talk to the kids and explain that it's their wedding (his & Susan's) anniversary....or will it just be another day without their mother...sooo sad....does anyone know what's going on with the boys. Have they had any contact with Susan's parents....I thought of those boys when I was donating the beanie babies in Susan's name and what a comfort that something as small as that can make a child smile when something bad is happening...."

April Steelman wrote:

Saw on Friends and Family of Susan Powell Facebook group where someone saw Josh, his Dad and the boys on an Easter egg hunt yesterday. Funny they can go searching for colored eggs.... ..just wondering how they've justified to those kids the importance of looking for those eggs and not their Mom...."
Few details of the case:

Susan Cox Powell, 28, went missing from her West Valley City home Dec. 6. Her husband, Josh Powell, is the last known person to see her when she went to bed at midnight. He told police and media that just after Susan went to bed he took their two young sons, then ages 2 and 4, on an overnight camping trip.

It was snowing that night and temperatures were subfreezing. He claims he forgot what day it was and that he went camping because he and his boys liked to do S'Mores. He said when he returned the following day his wife had disappeared and he didn't know where she was.

His story has been largely criticized and disbelieved.

Josh Powell is the only person of interest in what police call a missing person's case with suspicious criminal overtones.

If you have something you'd like to share, please feel free to share your comments in the "Comments" section below.
View Slide Show  http://www.examiner.com/examinerslideshow.html?entryid=1155133


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 09:58:47 AM
From above........
Caryn Macquet Fortune wrote:

"Susan gave Josh the deadline of April 6th to turn his behavior around and start making their marriage something worth fighting for. This is their wedding anniversary, if I remember correctly. How I wish we could find her in time for her to keep this deadline. Even if we don't find her by tomorrow, I believe we'll find ...her very soon. And Susan WILL have the last word. She deserves at least that. And, finally, her precious sons will get the love and care that they, too, so deserve."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 08, 2010, 10:02:41 AM
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID34328/slideshows/100407101059susan_and_two_boys_hardman_photography.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 08, 2010, 12:09:30 PM
Thanks Trimm!   ::MonkeyKiss::



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: suzyinpgh on April 09, 2010, 06:39:39 AM
It upsets me to think what those precious boys are being told about their Mother.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on April 09, 2010, 10:26:39 AM
It upsets me to think what those precious boys are being told about their Mother.
I know, this case get's me so angry that I will read here but seldom post  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 10, 2010, 01:05:10 PM

Interesting blog entry:

<snipped>

I have a friend who was on the board of directors of a land fill here in the Salt Lake Valley for a while. And he would go to conferences around the country to learn more about the business. He said that in most of the country, where they don't pay attention, all you need to get rid of a body is a roll of carpet, and a pickup truck.

Sounds like something out of, "The Soprano's" but it's a true story.

Susan Powell's husband needs to come clean. No amount of desert searches are going to find his wife. And if you don't believe me? Guy's, has YOUR wife ever left the house without her purse and cell phone? I rest my case.


<much more at link>

http://truthstick.blogspot.com/2010/04/susan-powell.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 10, 2010, 01:14:04 PM

Here's a great site for Susan:

http://heartsknitforsusan.wordpress.com/ (http://heartsknitforsusan.wordpress.com/)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 10, 2010, 01:14:36 PM

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Susan/Susan.jpg)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 10, 2010, 01:15:12 PM

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Susan/Susan2.jpg)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on April 10, 2010, 04:55:41 PM

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Susan/Susan2.jpg)


What a beautiful lady ::MonkeyAngel::I pray for her to be found soon. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 10, 2010, 07:47:04 PM
Massive search for Susan Powell turns up empty-handed

5:18 PM MDT, April 10, 2010
SALT LAKE CITY - A massive search effort in Utah's West Desert as volunteers tried to solve the mystery of missing West Valley Woman, Susan Powell. About 50 searchers gathered in Rush Valley in Tooele County where Powell's husband told investigators he took their children camping in a snowstorm the night she went missing. Susan Powell has not been seen since December 2009.

A family friend of Susan's family said the kindness is overwhelming. "I think the biggest thing that this will do is make us not feel alone," Shelby Gifford said.

The search group came up empty handed at the end of the day with no sign or clues of Susan's remains. "While on the one hand I really want her to be found so we can have some closure. At the same time, it's going to be a very sad day when they find her," Susan's best friend Kiirsi Hellewell said.

There are no more large scale searches planned at this time. Volunteers say they hope that investigators can at least cross the area off their list.
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-massive-search-for-susan-empty-handed,0,3627934.story



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 10, 2010, 08:25:33 PM
Thanks for the updates.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 11, 2010, 03:45:00 AM

Susan Powell Update:
Young couple releases song ‘How I wish I could find you’

(Dedicated to missing Utah mom, Susan Powell)
by Sugar and Spice

January 18, 2:26 PM  - Seattle Family Examiner  - Isabelle Zehnder


A song released today is a touching rendition of the story of missing Utah mom, Susan Powell.

The hearts of a young couple, Brook and Alicia Nuttall, were touched by Susan’s story. Their caring and concern can be felt when hearing their just-released song “How I wish I could find you”.

“How I wish I could find you” was written by both Brook and Alicia and was sung by Alicia, who said, “I was captivated from day one, when I first read the news on KSL that Susan Powell was missing. The circumstance in which she disappeared is so intriguing and nothing about the situation seemed explainable or normal.”

“I felt that there was something so familiar about her and that somehow I knew her even though I can't recall ever meeting her. When I read more about the details of her life, her marriage, and emails she sent, I couldn't help but imagine what I would have felt like if this mother had been me, and all the possible things she must have gone through that could have led up to her disappearance.”

“I imagined very well how much she loved her little boys and wanted them to know that she would never deliberately leave them, since I too have three young children ages 5, 3, and 2.”

“I also imagined the pain that her family and close ones must be going through since I too recently had a personal loss in my family. It was hard to move on and appreciate what I hadn't lost. So, because of Susan Powell's story, I now have a greater appreciation for my life and cherish my husband and children even more.”

“At first my husband was surprised with my constant talking to him about the story, since there seems to be so many tragic stories in the news every day. But I was surprised that he was actually patient with me and let me continue to talk about it, and he himself started to follow the story.”

“When something moves me emotionally, I feel the desire to write a song, so I started to write the song about Susan Powell in a way that I felt that family or friends or anyone could relate too and hopefully be comforted in some way.”

“I also felt that she would hear the song herself, either on this earth or in heaven and that this song could somehow help in finding her and to help heal the pain. If this song has helped no one else, it has at least comforted me.”

Alicia ended with, “My husband was so excited about the song when I showed it to him, that he helped me write a lot of the second verse and he helped me put the song together for sharing with others.”

Brook said, “I felt drawn to this story because Susan’s smile and sweet personality that shines through, in the many pictures that have been posted of her, reminds me of one of my daughters that has a similar smile and sweetness, that I feel that Susan must be the same kind of person. My heart goes out to the family and anyone affected by her being missing."


To hear song, click on link then just under the title to the left, click on play.  Lyrics are included on same page:
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_3164750 (http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_3164750)



http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2010m1d18-Susan-Powell-Update-Young-couple-releases-song-for-Susan-How-I-wish-I-could-find-you (http://www.examiner.com/x-22460-Seattle-Family-Examiner~y2010m1d18-Susan-Powell-Update-Young-couple-releases-song-for-Susan-How-I-wish-I-could-find-you)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 12, 2010, 11:58:57 AM
Someone at WS heard on the news that the dogs found something during a search and another dog confirmed.  Haven't heard or read anything reported to the media about this yet.  Am holding out hope this is true. 



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on April 12, 2010, 12:04:15 PM
That is GREAT News.. Lets hope they have her.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 12, 2010, 12:04:16 PM

Josh finally 'allowed' the Cox's time to spend with the boys.  But he timed that visit for the same day the big search was going on for Susan.  He *could have* allowed this visit at anytime, so doing it on that day seems very spiteful somehow.  IMO.  Means the Cox's couldn't attend the search even by showing support to other family members involved.   

Josh is despicable, IMO.   ::MonkeyMad::





 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 12, 2010, 12:09:26 PM

Ground and air search for Susan Cox Powell: Two confirmed search dog findings

<MUCH more at link below>

Two findings

There were some findings throughout the day. The Tooele County Deputy was alerted to women's underwear that were found in an area above the Simpson Springs camp sites.

Kiirsi said, "The parachute guys were coming back in and reported two areas of interest. Just as we were about to leave, radio information came in that ground searchers with a search dog had found a pair of women's underwear. More dogs were brought in."

The cadaver dog that located the underwear alerted its handler of a specific area about 50' from the underwear. A second dog was brought in that confirmed the two hits.

At that point the sheriff's deputy at the command post was notified and responded. He called in a detective and another officer, and the three collected the evidence. They seemed very interested in the finding. It is unknown at this time if the items belonged to Susan or to someone else.


http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m4d10-Ground-and-air-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-Two-confirmed-search-dog-findings (http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m4d10-Ground-and-air-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-Two-confirmed-search-dog-findings)



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 12, 2010, 12:11:32 PM

<from the above link>

While the search for Susan was in full swing in the West Desert in Utah her father and mother, Chuck and Judy Cox, were finally able to spend some time with Susan's two young sons, Charlie, 5, and Braden, 3, in Puyallup, Washington.

Josh Powell, Susan's husband, agreed Chuck and Judy could meet at a local park at 1 p.m. Saturday to spend some time with the children.

Something they haven't had the luxury of doing for months and something they simply couldn't miss. Otherwise, there is no doubt Chuck Cox would have been at Simpson Springs today thanking everyone for their dedication and efforts in searching for clues into Susan's disappearance.





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 12, 2010, 03:03:15 PM
That's a far cry from 'Massive search for Susan Powell turns up empty-handed
', as reported earlier.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on April 12, 2010, 05:04:34 PM
Hi ALL ::HelloKitty:: ::HelloKitty::

HERE is the latest it appears  they are not Susan's belongings... ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://connect2utah.com/content/fulltext/?cid=83362


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on April 12, 2010, 05:21:49 PM
NUTS...

Back to the research


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on April 18, 2010, 04:39:39 PM
Seems like several cases have come to a screeching halt.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on April 20, 2010, 04:08:10 PM
Never the less Susan must be found..

The family of Susan and there friends were the limitation in this case from the beginning..
They should have been hot on this idiot and had CPS take those children from the him.
They have enabled a liar and worse by NOT performing in the best intrests of Susan faster.
The family friend and spoksperson was / has not helped at all by suggesting to her family that Susan was alive. Pure Bullshift. Very irresponsible. Her family should have been hot on accusations with LE, EARLY on. They trusted him and crucified Susan in doing so.
jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: DayOldDonuts on April 20, 2010, 09:06:27 PM
Never the less Susan must be found..

The family of Susan and there friends were the limitation in this case from the beginning..
They should have been hot on this idiot and had CPS take those children from the him.
They have enabled a liar and worse by NOT performing in the best intrests of Susan faster.
The family friend and spoksperson was / has not helped at all by suggesting to her family that Susan was alive. Pure Bullshift. Very irresponsible. Her family should have been hot on accusations with LE, EARLY on. They trusted him and crucified Susan in doing so.
jmho


I don't blame the family.  I blame LE for not keeping tabs on Josh while he was out in parts unknown putting hundreds of miles on a rental car.  And maybe that friend or neighbor guy who didn't want to hear what happened from Josh, just wanted to let him know that he supported him.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 25, 2010, 10:46:58 AM
Anyone remember off the top of your head how many miles were in question on the rental car?? I am searching now, but can only find 'several hundred miles'.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 25, 2010, 07:56:46 PM
Nut,this article says over 200 miles.I'll see if I find anything different.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2010/01/susan-powell-update.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 26, 2010, 07:13:46 AM
OK.....here is why I asked about the miles. I have remains in Idaho and before the article below came out I wondered if it may be Susan. I see others thought the same....

Could human remains found in Idaho, believed to be a woman, be those of Susan Cox Powell?
April 25, 3:48 PM

April 25, 2010 - Human remains believed to be those of a woman were found in Idaho Friday and have been taken in for testing. It could take two weeks to two months for the remains to be identified.

The question posed to Examiner.com is could the remains be those of Susan Cox Powell?

At this time it appears unlikely. Susan has been missing for nearly five months. The remains found appear to have been there for quite some time.

Police say they cannot detect the person’s age or how the person died. They believe the remains are those of a woman but say they can’t even be certain of that.

Examiner.com contacted the Idaho Falls Police Department Sunday via email to provide them with information about Susan, and contacted the West Valley Police Department, also via email, to inform them about the remains found.

West Valley City Police responded via email stating they would contact the Idaho Falls Police Department.

Sgt. Phil Grimes said about a dozen detectives and crime-scene specialists were called to the area and that the remains were “almost totally decomposed.”

“We’re fairly sure the remains are those of a female,” Grimes said, “but we can’t even be certain of that at this time. What we found there was very skeletal.”

News reports indicate the remains were badly decomposed and police have no way of knowing how long they have been there. Grimes said,” We feel they’ve been there for some time.”

The remains were found on Friday in the Ammon foothills and were located about 12 miles east of Idaho Falls near a rutted dirt road entered from Sunnyside Road, and one mile southwest of the Annon Transfer Station. The muddy track provides access to some wind turbines

Police are combing the area to find anything connected to former missing person’s cases.

Police say they are opening up cold missing person’s cases to see if they can identify the body. Two women went missing in Idaho: Stephanie Eldredge, an Idaho Falls mother of three, went missing August 2007 and Amber Hoopes, 20, went missing in September 2001.

Police say it could be one of them, or it could be someone else. “Someone brought here from somewhere else,” police said.

They are not ruling out foul play or suicide. Police say they are surprised the remains were not found sooner, given they were in plain view when discovered.

A wind turbine employee stumbled upon the body around 3 p.m. Friday when he was looking for better cell reception to get help after his truck got stuck in mud.

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m4d25-Could-human-remains-found-in-Idaho-believed-to-be-a-woman-be-those-of-Susan-Cox-Powell


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 26, 2010, 07:15:28 AM
I mapped it yesterday. 225 miles one way...


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 26, 2010, 08:43:11 AM
This report says 'almost totally decomposed'
http://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/loca...1cc4c03286.html

Stephanie Eldridge missing since August 21, 2007

Darwin Vest missing since June 2, 1999

Amber Hoopes missing since September 14, 2001

The above three are among the persons they believe it could be. IMO all 3 would be totally skeletonized.....not ''almost totally decomposed'


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 26, 2010, 12:42:27 PM
Thanks for the update Nut.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 26, 2010, 03:16:22 PM
Detectives to see if remains near Idaho Falls are that of Susan Powell
April 26th, 2010 @ 12:20pm
IDAHO FALLS, IDAHO - The West Valley City Police Department is interested in a body discovered in a remote area near Idaho Falls, Idaho.

KPVI News, the NBC affiliate in Idaho Falls, is reporting the badly decomposed body was found Friday just a few yards from a busy recreational access road by a man who walked up a hill to get a better cell phone reception after his truck got stuck.

The Idaho Falls Police Department says the skeletal remains are likely that of a woman and West Valley detectives say they will check if the remains are that of Susan Powell, who has been missing since early December.

Susan's husband, Josh Powell told police he took his children camping on the night of Dec. 7 -- the day his wife went missing. He remains the only named person of interest in her disappearance and has since moved to Washington with his two sons.

Idaho Falls Police Sgt. Phil Grimes told KPVI, "There is certainly some suspicious circumstances at the scene and that's about as far as I want to go at this point."

It'll take the Idaho State Police Crime Lab at least two weeks to identify the remains, possibly several months.

Bonneville County has three open missing person cases, two involving women. Stephanie Eldredge, a mother of three, went missing in August 2007. And 20-year-old Amber Hoopes has been missing since September 2001. Biologist Darwin Vest went missing in June 1999.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=10536695

MAP AT LINK


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 26, 2010, 04:25:19 PM
West Valley police doubtful body found in Idaho is that of Susan Powell
By Pat Reavy

Deseret News

Published: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:03 p.m. MDT
2 comments     
WEST VALLEY CITY — West Valley police are keeping an eye on the discovery of a body in Idaho Falls, but detectives say it's unlikely that it's that of missing West Valley mother Susan Powell.

"(Idaho authorities) are pretty sure it's one of their missing-person cases from three years ago," West Valley Police Capt. Tom McLachlan said. "They're pretty positive it's going in that direction."

KPVI News, the NBC affiliate in Idaho Falls, reported the badly decomposed body was found Friday off a road by a man whose truck got stuck.

As of Monday, McLachlan said his department was not going to send any officers to Idaho but rather would let detectives there handle the investigation.

Powell was last seen Dec. 7. Early that morning, her husband, Josh Powell, took their two children on a camping trip in a remote area of Tooele County at 12:30 a.m., he told police. Temperatures that night were below freezing. Josh Powell said his wife was gone when he returned home.

He has since moved back to his hometown of Puyallup, Wash. He remains the only person of interest by police and has refused to cooperate with investigators.

Test results on the body found in Idaho Falls could take anywhere from several weeks to a few months. McLachlan noted that the police department there had two missing-women cases of their own that were still unsolved.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700027600/West-Valley-police-doubtful-body-found-in-Idaho-is-that-of-Susan-Powell.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on April 26, 2010, 06:32:47 PM
These unsolved cases are sad. I hope they get some resolution. I wish we knew what Josh's reaction was when they discovered that body. Did he know it was not her, or did he get weireded out by the find? His reaction would be very telling. I like many others feel he had to much freedom the forst few days. LE should have had him under a microscope for that time period. He should have been brought right in for questioning, they may have been able to break him. I don't get it!!! :gaah:


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on April 26, 2010, 07:34:03 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/Decomposed-human-remains-found-in-E-Idaho-92056654.html

(http://media.ktvb.com/images/396*264/kifi+body+4.jpg)

Found human remains are female

IDAHO FALLS, Idaho -- Police in eastern Idaho say they have started an investigation following the finding of badly decomposed human remains in a remote area 12 miles east of Idaho Falls.

Sgt. Phil Grimes of the Idaho Falls Police Department says the remains were found Friday afternoon by a motorist who had walked uphill in search of a better cellphone signal after his truck became stuck in mud.

Grimes says the Idaho State Police Crime Lab will try to make an identification of the remains in a process that will take at least two weeks and possibly two months.

Grimes tells the Post Register that police are fairly sure the remains are of a female, but not certain. He says suspicious evidence at the scene prompted the investigation, but suicide can't be ruled out.

Bonneville County has two notable cases involving missing women.

Stephanie Eldredge, a mother of three, hasn't been seen since August 2007. And 20-year-old Amber Hoopes has been missing since September 2001.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: akmom on April 26, 2010, 08:09:55 PM
I am concerned that they call the body decomposing rather than skeletonized.  Although it seems a little too far away to be Susan.  Whoever it is may they rest in peace and the perp be caught and punished.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: darla on April 26, 2010, 09:55:05 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!

I heard a body had been found, was praying they had found Susan. This body was described as badly decomposing, that does not fit with the females that are missing. There would be no decomp left, just bones. Not sure how the weather has been in Idaho, but I feel sure it is just starting to warm up there. Snow and cold would have preserved her body for a long time.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: klaasend on April 26, 2010, 10:03:29 PM
What struck me as interesting is that the location is where the wind turbines are, so it's a windy location for them to work.

Josh's face and hands were horribly wind burned.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: BooMonkey on April 26, 2010, 10:35:03 PM
What struck me as interesting is that the location is where the wind turbines are, so it's a windy location for them to work.

Josh's face and hands were horribly wind burned.

That's right! He kept putting lotion on them in front of his friends. I really pray this is her and they have some evidence left behind. Also I would think that the snow helped preserve her for a little while... till the warmer weather came.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 27, 2010, 11:29:37 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/The-family-of-Susan-Cox-Powell-reacts-to-body/wqrxO9vnLUeDcCJ8kvxWVA.cspx
The family of Susan Cox Powell reacts to body found near Idaho Falls
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 5:46 am
WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - Police detectives in Idaho Falls do not believe the body found there Friday is that of Susan Cox Powell. A positive identification will take a few weeks, but they've got two other local cases of missing women from 2007 and 2001 and believe it may be one of them.

Exclusive to abc4.com, a spokesman for the family of Susan Cox Powell issued this statement Monday evening from their home in Puyallup, Washington:

"While it seems unlikely that the body found near Idaho Falls is Susan, her friends and family are acutely aware of the anguish the discovery presents for the families of other missing persons. In one aspect, the recovery of the body of a missing loved one offers a sense of closure and ends the relentless worrying and wondering. It also comes, however, with a finality that is inarguable. No more hoping the missing person will inexplicably come home."

The badly decomposed body -- little more than bones really -- was found about 12 miles east of Idaho Falls in a stand of Aspen on a hillside just a few yards from a busy recreational access road.

The discovery was made by a man who got his truck stuck in the mud. Idaho Falls Police Sergeant Phil Grimes said, "When he was stuck - he was trying to get some cell phone reception and walked up a hill. As he was walking back down the hill to his vehicle he came across skeletal remains."
t drew the attention of West Valley police detectives who are investigating the Susan Powell disappearance. She vanished from her home nearly five months ago. But the Idaho Falls detectives say the remains appear to have been exposed to the elements a lot longer than just five months. "We've just been in contact with them by phone," said West Valley Police Captain Tom McLachlan. "As they got further into this the less it looked like the possibility that it would be Susan."

The Idaho find was a long shot. But Captain McLachlan says detectives have followed countless long shots. "Investigation is a process of elimination."


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on April 28, 2010, 08:02:38 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m4d27-Breaking-News-Chuck-Cox-Susan-Powells-father-on-Nancy-Grace-discusses-remains-found-Slideshow
Breaking News: Chuck Cox, Susan Powell’s father, on Nancy Grace; discusses remains found (Slideshow)
April 27, 9:14 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder
April 27, 2010 - Chuck Cox of Puyallup, Washington, whose daughter, Susan Cox Powell, has been missing since early December, appeared on the Nancy Grace Show Tuesday evening discussing the female human remains found Friday in the Ammon Foothills located about 12 miles east of Idaho Falls, Idaho.

Nancy Grace has been covering the story of the remains found in Idaho since Monday. Tuesday evening Chuck Cox appeared on her show via video recording and said, “I don’t believe this is Susan. I hope it’s not her.”

“I wish there could be closure in this case,” he said. “Please don’t forget those who are missing.”

Cox has said it before and I’m sure he will say it again, that he feels for everyone who has a missing loved one.

He thanked Nancy Grace for running the segment on Susan.

Human remains found

On Friday afternoon female human remains were found in Idaho, about three hours from Susan’s home where she was last seen before she disappeared.

The news of the remains raised a red flag for Linda Osborne, who has been searching for Susan since early December. Osborne contacted me Sunday morning.

Together we worked to notify Idaho Falls Police.

I sent emails to Captain K. Brown and Sergeant Phil Grimes Sunday afternoon letting them know about Susan’s case. Included in the emails were a description of Susan, the clothing she was reportedly wearing when last seen, a missing person’s flier, and her photo.

Osborne also sent emails to the investigative unit of the Idaho Falls Police Department Sunday afternoon.

I also sent emails to Lieutenant William Merritt, Sergeant Robert Bobrowski, Captain Tom McLachlan, and Detective Ellis Maxwell of the West Valley City Police Department, letting them know about the remains found in Idaho and provided them with contact information for Idaho Falls Police.

Within moments I received a response via email from Sergeant Bobrowski letting me know he would contact the Idaho Falls Police Department Monday.
On Monday afternoon I spoke with both Captain McLachlan of West Valley Police Department and Sergeant Phil Grimes of Idaho Falls Police Department by phone. Both confirmed their departments had been in contact with one another.

During my conversation with Captain McLachlan, he said that Idaho Falls Police are pretty confident the remains are not those of Susan and while they don’t yet have positive identification of the remains, they believe they could be those of a woman who has been missing for three years.

Sgt. Grimes said that prior to receiving the email he had not considered the possibility this could be Susan.

He said their department can’t be sure it’s not Susan but nothing makes them believe it is. They won’t know for sure until results of the DNA testing comes back in a couple weeks, he said.

He said that though he’s no expert in body decomposition, he thinks the remains have been around longer than since December. Again, he said, he can’t say for sure until the DNA results come back.

Few details of Susan's case:

Susan Cox Powell, 28, went missing from her West Valley City home Dec. 6. Her husband, Josh Powell, is the last known person to see her when she went to bed at midnight. He told police and media that just after Susan went to bed he took their two young sons, then ages 2 and 4, on an overnight camping trip.

It was snowing that night and temperatures were subfreezing. He claims he forgot what day it was and that he went camping because he and his boys liked to do S'Mores. He said when he returned the following day his wife had disappeared and he didn't know where she was.

His story has been largely criticized and disbelieved.
Josh Powell is the only person of interest in what police call a missing person's case with suspicious criminal overtones.
Slide Show  http://www.examiner.com/ExaminerSlideshow.html?entryid=1213651&slide=5
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID34328/slideshows/100427105506susan_powell_1_Hardman_photography.jpg)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 28, 2010, 01:43:48 PM
Published: April 28, 2010
Op-Ed Contributor
Opportunities Lost for All Time in the Susan Powell Case!

Submit By John Kays
 
A stranded motorist stumbles upon a decomposed body in a remote area near Idaho Falls, last Friday afternoon. Friends and family of a missing mother of two, Susan Powell, begin to wonder if this is Susan. It has been confirmed now that these remains are not Susan Powell.

The skeletal remains are likely either Stephanie Eldridge or Amber Hoopes, both missing for several years from that area in Idaho

For me, the possibility that it could be Susan filled me with a presence of mind that reawakened salient images in this case. Telling recollection flooded my thoughts; snap shots of an ebullient Susan, a candlelight vigil, a wood-carved sign of the Pony Express Trail, or the ever-present navy blue cap visage of Josh Powell.

Dead end trail. West Valley Police Captain Tom McLachlan is still calling it just a missing person's case. I conclude that with all the evidence they gathered, no firm clues that could point some blame was ever found. That means that whoever did this covered their tracks. The perpetrator concealed what they had done so that the cops couldn't detect their diabolical deed.

I believe that the West Valley City police actually came very close to solving this mystery, but were just short of something solid enough to make an arrest or declare it a homicide. As I went back over this last night, I felt as if reporters from that Utah area were honing in on what exactly happened.

Read the reports of Brent Hunsaker of ABC 4 News for many details that came out about Josh Powell. Josh rents a car just two days after his wife disappears and puts several hundred miles on it. The cops couldn't get any GPS data however. In my mind, they missed the most important opportunity (in the whole case) to trail Josh when he rents this car. This could be the clincher, for I believe that Josh RE-HID the body on the 9th of December, then gives that mock-interview about playing S'mores with his kids in the freezing cold.

A neighbor of the Powell's, Tim Petersen, believes that Josh returned to the camping area (the Pony Express Trail) with the rented car on the 9th. Josh had to return the rented car and get the van back that the police had confiscated, so he got a ride from Petersen. Petersen observed that Powell's hands were badly wind burned and he even believed that his hands were frost bitten. Josh had a bottle of lotion and rubbed his ruddy hands frequently on the car ride with Tim.

Why was Josh out in the element? What did he do and where did he go with this rented car, two days after his wife Susan went missing? I have my own opinion what he was doing. He was putting the finishing touches on covering up his horrible deed, killing his wife who was rebelling against him, asserting her own independence and formulating a basis for divorce from her controlling husband.

And what was ever made of the wet carpet with two fans blowing on it? A carpet cleaner was near by also. Why? Did they analyze fibers from the carpet? What about fibers in the family minivan? I guess they never found anything. I've heard also that Josh was seen at the Duces Wild Strip joint in Salt Lake City on the 7th? And that he made a fool of himself here. Can the WVC police confirm or deny this rumor by questioning witnesses who saw Josh at this strip bar? They claim that Josh said he was having a hard day. Yea, when you kill your wife that can turn out to be a hard day for you!

Exactly what transpired on the eve of December 6th, 2009 is still unclear. I believe that Josh kills Susan in a fit of rage, then hides the body in a temporary location. He cleans up the house thoroughly, and I mean spotlessly, then takes the kids out to a remote location. He's gathering his wits and constructing his fibs, and doesn't return until 5 PM the next day. He knows that reporters will be all over him.

Two days later he completes the job when he rents the car. He realizes the cops are not too suspicious of him yet. He hides the body again, (it's highly likely Josh buried it some place) and completes the cycle of disguising his crime so that he will never be exposed. Now the opportunity is lost! Josh is free, he gets away with murder, but his conscience will be a giant on his shoulders for the rest of life.

http://newsblaze.com/story/20100428094721kays.nb/topstory.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 28, 2010, 01:47:52 PM
I doubt the part about 'his conscience' ...  ::MonkeyNoNo::  He has no conscience  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 01, 2010, 02:12:48 PM
Skeletal remains believed to be Stephanie Eldridge

The remains found in the foothills east of Ammon appears to be that of Stephanie Eldridge, the Idaho Falls woman who went missing in August of 2007.

Story Updated: Apr 30, 2010 at 5:48 PM MDT
BONNEVILLE COUNTY - It was a week ago when a repairman working on windmills stumbled across the remains and reported it to authorities.

That prompted a massive joint task force to comb the area looking for more evidence.

Based on what officers found at the scene, evidence in the autopsy, information obtained through the initial disappearance, and what they've received throughout the investigation, leads Idaho Falls Police to believe the remains are that of Stephanie Eldridge and that she was murdered.

Police would not specify on the condition of the body or whether it was buried when it was found. But they do believe several people have been near the remains.

"I think that people have definitely been in that area. Probably quite a few people during a two and a half-three year period. I think it was just out of the way enough where people just didn't notice it and didn't notice the remains," says Sgt. Phil Grimes with the Idaho Falls Police Department.

Eldridge was last seen at her home August 20, 2007. On that date, her stepmother came to visit, but only found her four-year old daughter home alone.

Earlier today, I spoke with Stephanie's Mother-in-Law, Linnette Theisen, by phone to get the family's reaction to the latest development.

She told me, "It's a bad situation all around and it's devastated a lot of people. I'm not sure what to say, I'm all numb and in shock. We're waiting for confirmation although we're fairly certain it's her. It's hard, but it will be nice to have some closure. It's hard to believe she was so close but no one found her until now".

Police are waiting for the dental and DNA comparisons to arrive from the Boise laboratories. But when and if it turns out to be Stephanie, police will continue this homicide investigation.

http://www.kidk.com/news/92554344.html (http://www.kidk.com/news/92554344.html)


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 03, 2010, 09:18:50 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/05/03/grace.coldcase.powell/?hpt=Sbin
Stockbroker vanished; husband left town with kids
By Rupa Mikkilineni, Nancy Grace Producer
May 3, 2010 8:52 a.m. EDT
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/CRIME/05/03/grace.coldcase.powell/t1larg.powell.jpg)
New York (CNN) -- Tom McLachlan, a police captain in West Valley, Utah, felt a surge of adrenalin when he received a phone call two weeks ago from authorities some 200 miles away in Idaho.

A motorist looking for a better cell phone signal had found female skeletal remains on a hilltop near Idaho Falls. McLachlan had a case on his desk involving a 28-year-old stockbroker and mother of two who vanished in December under suspicious circumstances.

Could the body be Susan Powell's?

McLachlan says he now has doubts. The skeletal remains seemed to have been there much longer than Susan Powell has been missing.

"Susan has been missing for five months, so the body is likely not her," he told CNN. "We need to wait until DNA tests come back, which could take up to a few weeks."

Susan Powell's disappearance is the kind of case that gets under an investigator's skin. Right now, police have plenty of suspicion but scant evidence.
Powell simply vanished, leaving her purse, wallet and cell phone behind in her home.

Her husband, Josh Powell, told police she was asleep when he left after midnight, taking their children, ages 2 and 4, on a camping trip in below-freezing weather.
He told police he spent the early morning hours of December 7 with his children in the family van in Simpson Springs Campground, a 90-minute drive from the Powells' home.

Police entered the case that Monday afternoon. The children had not been dropped off at day care and neither Josh nor Susan Powell had shown up at work. No one had heard from them.

"We were concerned that the family was in the house and some accident, maybe a gas leak, had injured them," said McLachlan. "So we broke into the home when no one answered the door."

Police sources told CNN that officers found a large wet spot on the carpet in the home. It was being dried by two fans, they said, but would give no further details.

West Valley police say Josh Powell is they only person they's looking at, but they are not calling him a suspect in his wife's disappearance. They say they have no physical evidence of foul play.

CNN called several times seeking comment from Josh Powell and his attorney, Scott Williams. The phone calls were not returned.

Police say they have been unable to confirm Powell's story about the camping trip. They searched the campground, but any potential evidence had been covered by heavy snow.
Police characterize Josh Powell as being uncooperative, saying he would not lead them to the exact location of the camp site. In January, he packed up his belongings and moved with the children to his parents' home in Puyallup, Washington.

Susan Powell's father, Charles Cox, told CNN she is not the kind of person who would go off on her own without contacting her family.

"She would never leave those two children behind," Cox said.

Susan Powell's father says there was trouble in the marriage, with financial pressures being the primary issue between the couple. Josh had been unemployed until just before his wife disappeared.

In the months leading up to her disappearance, Susan Powell had talked about getting a divorce, family and friends told CNN. They asked that their names not be published because the investigation is ongoing.

Police are asking for the public's help in solving this case. Susan Powell stands 5-foot-3, is 130 pounds and has brown hair and blue eyes.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Susan Powell is asked to call the West Valley Police Department tip line at (801) 840-4000. An $11,000 reward is offered.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on May 03, 2010, 01:10:02 PM
Stockbroker vanished; husband left town with kids..

Pay attention LE and Media..
His only stability is the kids.

Seperate him from them.
jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mymonkey on May 03, 2010, 08:57:47 PM



I agree Edward....I feel like he is mentally ill...and a threat to his children.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 05, 2010, 06:49:18 AM
Thinking back to the wet spot on the rug (with a fan blowing on it) ........ surely they know by now what it was. If it wasn't blood, then why won't they say what it was?


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cookie on May 05, 2010, 08:26:36 AM
I am concerned about his children being left with him..a murder/suicide involving him and the children.especially if the police get too close to finding Susan or if there is a hint of an arrest coming his way.  I agree, separate him from the children!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on May 05, 2010, 09:42:11 AM
Hi ALL... I too share your concern of Josh being an unstable parent. Why does the dept. of children services feel that it is normal to take your two very young children out of bed in the middle of the night in sub-zero temperatures to drive miles away to camp? Josh also shows no concern regarding their mother who is presumably missing. ( more likely deceased at this point)  I too wonder why no one has said what the stain was with the two fans blowing on them.  I feel this is becoming a trend lately. Are these husbands watching and reading about crimes and learning how to get away with murder? The other latest case re: Venus Stewart seems to be heading down this same path.
It took LE a week to locate cars, husband has an alibi etc. LE is clueless and the woman remain missing, most likely dead. sorry to go off topic.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 05, 2010, 03:34:55 PM
Interesting comment (recent) here...what so many of us fear (mine shaft)

http://my.hsj.org/Schools/Newspaper/tabid/100/view/frontpage/articleid/358414/newspaperid/3164/Mother_missing_father_disappeared_with_children.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 05, 2010, 04:11:42 PM
Interesting comment (recent) here...what so many of us fear (mine shaft)

http://my.hsj.org/Schools/Newspaper/tabid/100/view/frontpage/articleid/358414/newspaperid/3164/Mother_missing_father_disappeared_with_children.aspx
And who the heck brings up a subject of disposing a body in a mine shaft at a Christmas party?  WTH


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 06, 2010, 07:43:39 AM
Just an FYI ....

The body found almost two weeks ago outside of Ammon has been positively identified Wednesday as Stephanie Eldridge.
http://www.kpvi.com/Global/story.asp?S=12435571


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on May 06, 2010, 10:39:17 AM
Some info on Stepanie Eldridge.. I do not know if we have athread on her ..
Missing since 2007
Idaho falls
http://www.kpvi.com/Global/story.asp?S=7101189


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on May 06, 2010, 02:59:00 PM
How sad.... Thanks for the articles. It took 3 years to find her, and still no real closure.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 09, 2010, 03:12:06 PM
5 months.....no answer, when the answer is right in front of everyones face...  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Totally unacceptable  ::MonkeyNoNo:: This isn't like a stranger abduction...this should have been solved in the first week...PERIOD! Disgraceful  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: suzyinpgh on May 10, 2010, 08:31:57 AM
5 months.....no answer, when the answer is right in front of everyones face...  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Totally unacceptable  ::MonkeyNoNo:: This isn't like a stranger abduction...this should have been solved in the first week...PERIOD! Disgraceful  ::MonkeyNoNo::
 

I agree.  I check in here almost everyday to see if there is any news.  Nothing.  It is a disgrace.  The husband should have been watched a little bit closer in the beginning.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 10, 2010, 10:12:09 AM
Susan Cox Powell: Exclusive interview with Debbie Caldwell re her visit with Susan’s parents

May 10, 2010 - Chuck and Judy Cox, parents of Susan Cox Powell, the 28-year-old mother who disappeared from her West Valley City home in early December, travelled from their Puyallup, Washington home to West Valley City Utah last week. The purpose of their trip was to visit friends and family.

Judy had not been to West Valley City since Susan’s disappearance.

During their trip they stopped and visited Debbie Caldwell, who cared for the Coxes’ grandchildren before their daughter disappeared.

Caldwell said today's been especially hard on her. "It's Mother's Day," she said, "I cried through the entire church service this morning, wondering if anyone is talking with Charlie and Braden about their mommy on Mother's Day."

Examiner.com's Exclusive Interview with Debbie Caldwell - her visit with Chuck and Judy Cox:

This week Chuck and Judy Cox stopped by Caldwell's home to visit and get an inside view of a day in the life of their grandsons. Something neither of them had ever had the opportunity to do.

It was an emotional evening for Caldwell, who held back tears as she recounted her visit with the Coxes.

“The Coxes were able to meet one of the moms in my daycare who told Chuck and Judy that her son was Charlie and Braden’s best friend. The child’s mother broke down and cried, feeling bad about it the next day,” Caldwell said.

“It’s been really difficult on our group. I’ve been in tears all day thinking about Charlie and Braden and if they even know it’s Mother’s Day today. And if they even talked about their mommy today,” she said.

“Or, was it just another day? From what I’ve heard, it doesn’t seem that Josh wants to talk to the kids about their mom,” Caldwell said.

“Chuck and Judy asked for places to search for Susan, and I was at a loss. I just don’t know. I wish I did,” she said.

“Judy thanked me for looking for Susan, and for calling the emergency contacts and letting people know Susan hadn’t shown up to daycare the day she went missing,” Caldwell said. “I was the one who alerted everyone that Susan hadn’t shown up with the kids, which was very unusual for her.”

Caldwell said she believes that sometimes people can be as close to some of their friends as they are with their own family. Especially in cases when their family is living far away, as in Susan’s case. Caldwell said she and Susan had formed a bond and that they were very close.

“I shared some of the stories Susan told about me about her mom and dad. I told them how she felt bad because she realized, after becoming a mom, that there were times she could have been more obedient. She never did anything bad, but she felt she could have made things easier on her mom,” Caldwell said.

“I told Chuck and Judy how Susan really felt about them, because she shared that information with me. She said her mom was a great example and she really looked up to her,” she said.

“I told them Susan was extremely fond of her dad and how Susan thought the sun rose with her dad. She thought he was the most amazing man and as she grew older, she recognized it more,” Caldwell said.

“As far as the case,” Caldwell said. “I don’t know what to think anymore. I’m as frustrated as the other 40,000+ people on Facebook.”

“On the flipside,” Caldwell said, “I know Ellis Maxwell and he’s an excellent detective at West Valley City Police. That gives me more faith in the investigation. I believe if there’s an answer to be found he’ll be the one to figure it out. He has an excellent reputation in this town.”

“And as far as Josh, his behavior tells me he’s lying and he’s hiding. Why else would he have packed up the kids and left like that?” she asked.

“Why would he do that to his kids?” Caldwell asked. “Why would he uproot them like that? They lost their mom, they lost their family, they lost their friends, and they lost their home.”

“What kind of caring father would do that to his children? I keep asking that question and there’s no good answer,” she said.

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m5d10-Susan-Cox-Powell-Exclusive-interview-with-Debbie-Caldwell-re-her-visit-with-Susans-parents


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mizjay on May 11, 2010, 02:20:24 AM
Checking in and see there's no news. Out of all the cases, this seems like it could and should have been 'solved' within days. And I'm with NUT~ what were those stains?   The mine shaft statement is probably exactly where she is. Wonder if that comment was made because they had taken a camping trip in the months prior to that where he might have seen an abandoned shaft and he was already formulating a long/short range murder plan? 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 11, 2010, 02:06:27 PM
Susan Cox Powell search continues
Reported by: Noah Bond
Last Update: 5/10 7:37 am 

WEST VALLEY, Utah - (ABC 4 News) - Another search was planned for any sign of the West Valley mother of two who vanished about five months ago.  Volunteers are looking for Susan Cox Powell.

The Bridgerland Fire Department organized the search in Utah's West Desert around Davis Mountain.  The search started May 8 at 6:00 a.m.  The effort was organized without the family's request, but her parents are grateful for the help.

Susan's parents drove down from Washington State to help with the search.  Charles and Judith Cox tell say they feels empty inside. They say there is a hole in their family. They desperately hope their daughter is still alive, but if she's not they want answers.  "Perhaps she's still alive out there. We're balancing that hope that she's still alive out there," said Charles.

Three paragliders, seven dog teams and several people set out on foot looking for clues about Susan's disappearance. Her mother Judith Cox said she was with the search team to say thanks.  "We appreciate that yeah that they're not giving up and they still want to look," said Judith.

Bridgerland Fire had nothing new to report to the public at the end of the search.  Five months and counting since Susan vanished from her West Valley home.  Her family and friends say they won't give up until they get answers.

"We are still looking for Susan.  This continues for us all day everyday.  It's not something that really ever leaves the forefront of our minds," said Cox Family Spokesperson Shelby Gifford.

Susan's parents still believe someone knows something about their daughters disappearance.  Call West Valley Police with tips about Susan Cox Powell at 801-963-3459.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Susan-Cox-Powell-search-continues/8TW-W4erkk25iBQnKJ6iiA.cspx?rss=20


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2010, 04:30:43 PM

"josh powell is one sick f***."

The public reacts to Josh Powell’s Mother’s Day sentiments on the susanpowell.org website

Armenian Lady Dentist blogspot
Thursday, May 13, 2010

http://bit.ly/bZ8uws


May 12, 2010 - The public is reacting with anger and disgust over the Mother’s Day sentiments Josh Powell added to the controversial www.susanpowell.org website that is believed to have been created by him about his missing wife, Susan Cox Powell.

Many people are convinced Josh had something to do with Susan’s disappearance. He remains the only person of interest in what police call a missing person’s case with suspicious criminal overtones.

A link to the new “Mother’s Day” page was added to the Where is Susan Powell Facebook page. It is not being well-received by the public, with the first response being, “Where’s the barf bucket?”

Josh allegedly added a couple of photos of his boys planting flowers and playing outdoors. Some say it’s his attempt of trying to play the role of the good father, and of trying to make people feel sorry for him. Some call him a "master manipulator."

The new page reads, “Happy Mother’s Day Susan. You are the beloved mother of two beautiful boys, who remember you and miss you. We all hope you will come home soon.”

Critics wonder why he would use that choice of words when it’s quite obvious to everyone close to this case that Susan can’t come home.

Linda said, “Josh is such a low-life scum to insinuate that Susan simply left her family with his statement ‘We all hope you will come home soon.’ Note the choice of the word ‘will’ rather than ‘can’.”

“She CAN not come home Josh,” Linda continued, “Because YOU have made that impossible. How dare you insult our intelligence with such trashy additions to a pathetic web page! If you want to participate in honoring Susan, turn yourself in.”

On Websleuths.com, one poster said, "Something I've noticed when he [Josh] was talking to the reporters and also on that web page. he always mentions the kids loving her [Susan] but never once have I heard him say that HE loves her."

People on Websleuths.com surmise Josh is telling his children their mother walked away from them.

Another poster said, "In my opinion, Josh Powell is a vindictive, spiteful person who made this web site to mock those who love Susan Powell. It would not surprise me to learn he and his father were laughing their butts off as they discussed how they imagined people reacting to the web site. I think Josh and his father think this new page is funny and are deriving great pleasure from the attention. I honestly believe they are reading all the comments about this new page and laughing."

One would hope not.

This has gone on for over five months now and Susan’s family and friends continue to say that no way would Susan have left on her own, she would never have left her two young sons.

If there were plans on Susan leaving anyone it was Josh. From what we have learned her plans were to leave him on their wedding anniversary in early April this year, she never got the chance.

KSL reported, "Susan's family has claimed Josh was physically and emotionally abusive toward Susan. They say Susan planned to leave Josh by April 6, the couple's wedding anniversary, if the abuse didn't stop."

<much more at link above/below.. including links to various articles with these questions and more>

*Why would Josh say Susan loved gardening, when the public has learned from those closest to Susan that she gardened out of necessity, not out of love?

*Why has he locked himself in his father’s house with his two kids, running from the press anytime they show up?

*Sure, he goes out now and then, taking photos of his kids playing in parks, but what kind of a life are they really living? Whenever the press arrives they run and hide and call police.

*Why has he canceled appointments to meet with police and evaded their questions?

*Why has he remained silent for over five months?

*Why hasn't he wanted to share his side of the story with media?

*Why does he not continually get in front of cameras on local and National TV pleading for the safe return of his wife?

*Why is he not out actively searching for his wife?

*Why did he not do everything he could to clear his name, like Ed Smart did when his daughter disappeared, or Marc Klaas, so that he could have taken an active role in searching for Susan? Smart and Klaas volunteered to help police clear their names so they could move forward in trying to find their daughters, they didn’t shut down and hide.

Only Josh knows the answers to these questions. But these questions, and others, have led many people to believe he had something to do with his wife’s disappearance.

please let LE get their hands on enough evidence to nail him.

http://bit.ly/bZ8uws



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on May 14, 2010, 11:55:30 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m5d13-Susan-Cox-Powell-Press-Release-re-June-26-volunteer-ground-search--looking-for-volunteers
Susan Cox Powell: Press Release re June 26 volunteer ground search - looking for volunteers
May 13, 2010

May 13, 2010 - Strategic Tactical Group (STG) is planning another search for clues into Susan Cox Powell's disappearance on June 26, 2010. He is in need of more volunteers for the search to go forward.

People were begging for a way to physically go out and search for Susan. Chris Willden has provided a way to make that possible.

PRESS RELEASE:

Chris Willden, Investigator and Director of Training for Strategic Tactical Group (STG), is organizing another search for missing Utah mom, Susan Cox Powell, missing since December 7, 2009.

The search will be on June 26, 2010 from 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM, at a location to be announced, in the Utah west desert.

We need to have at least 30 people to conduct the search, and will accept up to 80 volunteers.

Unlike the last organized search in April, the June search will accept volunteers, but those without police, military or search and rescue certification will need to take a weekend class to qualify to be on a search team.

The cost is only $10 to cover supplies.

The class will be held in the Salt Lake City area the weekend before the search. To sign up for the class email: training@strategictacticalgroup.com

To sign up for the search, email: chris@strategictacticalgroup.com before the deadline of June 11, 2010.

Donations are requested to provide gas, water, food, and other needed supplies.

You may donate through Paypal to: sales@strategictacticalgroup.com.

Or by mail:
Strategic Tactical Group LLC
689 South Main
Bountiful, UT 84010

(Please mark any donations for the Susan Cox Powell search).

Few details of Susan's case:

Susan Cox Powell, 28, went missing from her West Valley City home Dec. 6. Her husband, Josh Powell, is the last known person to see her when she went to bed at midnight. He told police and media that just after Susan went to bed he took their two young sons, then ages 2 and 4, on an overnight camping trip.

It was snowing that night and temperatures were subfreezing. He claims he forgot what day it was and that he went camping because he and his boys liked to do S'Mores. He said when he returned the following day his wife had disappeared and he didn't know where she was.

His story has been largely criticized and disbelieved.

Less than a month after Susan went missing Josh moved their two young sons away from the only support system they knew and into Josh's father's home in Puyallup, Washington.

Josh Powell is the only person of interest in what police call a missing person's case with suspicious criminal overtones.



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on May 18, 2010, 10:13:26 AM
If Josh buried Susan, the snow is now melting , the rains are coming and the ground is softening. In the cold winter snow with a hard ground I am sure you could only shovel so far down. I think the clock is ticking!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: newfie on May 18, 2010, 10:15:49 AM
oops I forgot the p.s. 
p.s. The cops need to watch Josh if he comes to Utah. Josh is also somewhat paranoid and may visit the area where Susan was disposed. Keep your eyes peeled Utah LE.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on May 19, 2010, 12:27:07 PM
LE appears to have rubber legs and no backbone in Utah.
If you want to catch Josh the public needs to confront him on every street corner until he cracks.
jmho


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2010, 01:16:19 PM
LE appears to have rubber legs and no backbone in Utah.
If you want to catch Josh the public needs to confront him on every street corner until he cracks.
jmho
I totally agree, I read here, seldom post, this is one of the most frustrating cases, and all it does is make me angry.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 23, 2010, 09:58:56 AM
 :2waver: 'Guest'


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on May 31, 2010, 01:49:49 PM
Where is Susan Powell? Her father-in-law thinks she’s having a fling, hopes she’ll land on her feet

http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m5d30-Where-is-Susan-Powell-Her-fatherinlaw-thinks-shes-having-a-fling-hopes-shell-land-on-her-feet


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on May 31, 2010, 02:22:09 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m5d30-Where-is-Susan-Powell-Her-fatherinlaw-thinks-shes-having-a-fling-hopes-shell-land-on-her-feet

Where is Susan Powell? Her father-in-law thinks she’s having a fling, hopes she’ll land on her feet
May 30, 3:15 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder

May 28, 2010 - Susan Cox Powell went missing nearly six months ago and her father-in-law says he thinks she may have left for “a fling or respite,” and hopes she, his son, and their two kids will land on their feet.

Reports have streamed in for nearly six months indicating Susan would never leave her two kids, that "someone" is responsible for her disappearance, and that the only person they believe can help police, her husband, Josh Powell, has moved away. Police have repeatedly stated Josh will not cooperate with them.

Examiner.com has offered Susan's husband, Josh Powell, and her father-in-law, Steven Powell, via email and in person, the opportunity to share their side of the story. They declined.

In the Jun 7 issue of PEOPLE magazine, Steven Powell, aka Steven Chantrey, Susan’s father-in-law, suggested Susan Cox Powell, the 28-year-old missing West Valley City mom, may have left for a fling and inferred she may have needed a break and that’s possibly why she left. He wonders why police haven’t looked at other suspects.

Debbie Caldwell, who provided childcare for the Powell's before Susan disappeared, said Susan made it clear to her husband she did not feel comfortable around his father, Steven, and that she never wanted the children left alone in his care. She also said she never wanted her boys left alone with Josh's brother.

Even Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, are not comfortable in Steven's home.





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on May 31, 2010, 02:28:13 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m5d30-Where-is-Susan-Powell-Her-fatherinlaw-thinks-shes-having-a-fling-hopes-shell-land-on-her-feet

Where is Susan Powell? Her father-in-law thinks she’s having a fling, hopes she’ll land on her feet
May 30, 3:15 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder

May 28, 2010 - Susan Cox Powell went missing nearly six months ago and her father-in-law says he thinks she may have left for “a fling or respite,” and hopes she, his son, and their two kids will land on their feet.

Reports have streamed in for nearly six months indicating Susan would never leave her two kids, that "someone" is responsible for her disappearance, and that the only person they believe can help police, her husband, Josh Powell, has moved away. Police have repeatedly stated Josh will not cooperate with them.

Examiner.com has offered Susan's husband, Josh Powell, and her father-in-law, Steven Powell, via email and in person, the opportunity to share their side of the story. They declined.

In the Jun 7 issue of PEOPLE magazine, Steven Powell, aka Steven Chantrey, Susan’s father-in-law, suggested Susan Cox Powell, the 28-year-old missing West Valley City mom, may have left for a fling and inferred she may have needed a break and that’s possibly why she left. He wonders why police haven’t looked at other suspects.

Debbie Caldwell, who provided childcare for the Powell's before Susan disappeared, said Susan made it clear to her husband she did not feel comfortable around his father, Steven, and that she never wanted the children left alone in his care. She also said she never wanted her boys left alone with Josh's brother.

Even Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox, are not comfortable in Steven's home.





Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 31, 2010, 06:29:44 PM
Susan's father-in-law knows exactly what happened to her and he knows exactly where her body is. No way Josh got rid of her without daddy's help/guidance...in one way or another. What a load of crap  ::MonkeyNoNo::

The police have no reason to look elsewhere for a suspect. He WAS sitting under their noses until he packed up and moved away. :roll:

This case makes me sick.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2010, 08:22:54 PM
Susan's father-in-law knows exactly what happened to her and he knows exactly where her body is. No way Josh got rid of her without daddy's help/guidance...in one way or another. What a load of crap  ::MonkeyNoNo::

The police have no reason to look elsewhere for a suspect. He WAS sitting under their noses until he packed up and moved away. :roll:

This case makes me sick.
Me too, and I get more frustrated every time I check on here, and now I'm really angry with such bs.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 02, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=10998494

Susan Powell back in spotlight 6 months after disappearance
June 1st, 2010 @ 5:55pm
By Sandra Yi

WEST VALLEY CITY -- It's been months since Susan Powell disappeared from her West Valley City home, and the case is still getting national attention.

Susan's disappearance is featured this week in a popular magazine. A website, which has some of Susan's friends shaking their heads, also highlights the six-month mark of the case.
While police say they are working hard to resolve this case. Susan's friends and family say it's getting more and more difficult to maintain hope when the reality that she may never be found is starting to sink in.

"It's really discouraging, and it's hard to keep up hope every day," says Susan's friend, Kiirsi Hellewell.

But that's all friends and family of Susan Cox Powell can do.

"There's just this sense of weariness; this just heavy to carry around. We're so worried and heartbroken," says Cox family spokeswoman Shelby Gifford.

Police say Susan's is still a missing person's case and the only person of interest remains her husband, Josh, who lives in Washington state.
The biggest frustration of all is that her husband, who was the last person to see her, doesn't speak up, doesn't talk to police," Gifford says.

The family suspects the website SusanPowell.org was created by Josh, or someone close to him. A new page, titled "Six Months," says Susan's family is still trying to cope with her absence. It says everyone hopes she will walk back through the door soon -- something friends say won't happen, because Susan didn't leave on her own.

"It's like a slap in the face to everybody who knows and loves Susan," Hellewell says.

West Valley police won't say much about the investigation. They've received test results on some of the evidence but are tight-lipped about it.

"We still have eight detectives assigned. They're still working very hard on it. We're following up on leads," says Capt. Tom McLachlan, spokesman for the West Valley Police Department.

Last month, Susan's parents, Charles and Judy Cox, came to Utah to meet with investigators. They visited the Simpson Springs area, where Josh told investigators he went camping with his two kids the night Susan disappeared.

Hellewell says Josh was also recently back in Utah, just for a day, but it's unclear what he was doing here.

Susan's disappearance is featured in this week's issue of People magazine. Friends hope that will renew interest in a case they so desperately want solved.

"Obviously, I hope for them to either find Susan or arrest the person who took her," Hellewell says.

A private company is planning a new search for Susan in the West Desert at the end of June. Friends also plan to post fliers at sporting goods stores so people who spend time outdoors this summer will keep an eye out for any sign of Susan.
KSL News tried to contact Josh Powell's attorney Tuesday for comment, but our call was not returned.

E-mail: syi@ksl.com


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on June 02, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from above:

"The biggest frustration of all is that her husband, who was the last person to see her, doesn't speak up, doesn't talk to police," Gifford says."


Not many bad guys walk into the police station sit down and admit they murdered a person..
As a matter of fact most of them stay silent.
::MonkeyWink::

What is necessary is for police and ALL of the concerned family members to insist that Josh is a danger to his children and have CPS grab them.
Then police need to find Josh and arrest him and interrogate him and the news media needs to hound him and all the united states needs to spit on him when he walks by.
He is self centered and that is supported by his immediate family, and we see just how that works in other cases such as the Casey Anthony. Her parents support keeps her from standing up to what she has done.
 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Northern Rose on June 03, 2010, 11:49:18 PM
Josh Powell leaving Mormonism

Josh Powell is apparently shopping around for a new church. On the website Susanpowell.org, which is widely believed to be written by Josh and his father, Steven Powell, there was this paragraph:

“Finding trustworthy spiritual support is more critical now than ever, since according to the media, members of the Mormon community had been pressuring Susan to divorce Josh on the basis of his beliefs. Josh and his family have recently enjoyed the fellowship of religious communities that share his and Susan's pro-family values. They have been investigating Christianity as an alternative to Mormonism. Vibrant faith communities in the local area have been very supportive and have been helping Josh and his family through the turmoil.” (Emphasis added)

But Kiirsi Hellewell, a close friend of Susan Cox Powell and a member of the same LDS Ward in West Valley, disputes the claim of a conspiracy to split up Josh and Susan. She said, “Everyone was extremely supportive. Everyone was very friendly to Josh. After Susan disappeared, everyone gave him the benefit of the doubt, helped him move, and invited him over for dinner. We did everything we could to help him.”

Friends of Susan cannot believe that Josh could abandon his faith over something the “media” might have said. It is equally unbelievable to the family of Susan Cox Powell.

Tuesday evening, the family issued this statement through a spokeswoman:

“Susan would be heartbroken. He is making decisions that are contrary to her wishes. She was the one who took the lead in matters of faith. We see this as another attempt by Josh to close the door on Susan and forget all about her.”

Hellewell was even more blunt, “Every decision he’s made since she disappeared has been against what she would want.”

This weekend marks 6 months since Susan Cox Powell disappeared from her home in West Valley City, Utah. Josh Powell remains the only person of interest in the ongoing police investigation.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Josh-Powell-leaving-Mormonism/erv_Gs8yBE6Uir_DAE_2lg.cspx



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 06, 2010, 10:22:02 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m6d5-Friends-family-and-supporters-of-Susan-Cox-Powell-outraged-over-Six-Months-web-page
Friends, family, and supporters of Susan Cox Powell outraged over “Six Months” web page
June 5, 3:29 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on June 12, 2010, 02:22:24 PM
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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on June 13, 2010, 02:12:00 PM
Susan Powell Missing Over 6 Months-Timeline From 12-7-09
josh sister, and brother-n-law speak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMJl2O1MAvg&feature=player_embedded

found at
http://tynerose.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2010, 02:16:37 PM
This will not do one bit of good UNLESS they add Josh'd van and the rental car to it!!! GRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/06/14/SusanCoxPowellBillboard2_370x278.jpg)

Search for Susan Powell billboard goes up in Utah
Puyallup, WASHINGTON (ABC4 News) - A new effort is underway in the search for Susan Powell. 

A billboard showing a photo of Susan has been installed in Puyallup, Washington where Susan grew up. 

Chuck Cox, Susan's Father, says he wants to make sure the public doesn't give up the search for Susan. 
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Search-for-Susan-Powell-billboard-goes-up-in-Utah/FiNkytJIxEqPcb8p0tMcLw.cspx?rss=20


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2010, 02:23:14 PM

From Jane's show last night >>>>>>>>>>>


We`re going to move on right now to another really gut-wrenching story; a heartbroken family desperate for answers. What happened to Susan Powell?

This beautiful mother vanished in Salt Lake City, Utah, on December 7th. She has not been seen since. Tonight family members fear the worst but they refuse to give up hope.

Susan`s father has now put up a giant billboard -- take a look at it -- near his home in Washington State. Trying everything he can do to bring his daughter back home.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHUCK COX, FATHER OF SUSAN POWELL: As her father and here in Seattle and this happened down in Salt Lake City or they disappeared from that area, I feel just totally helpless.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, is Susan still alive? She vanished in the dead of night. Her husband, Josh, has been at the center of the investigation from day one.

He claims he took his two young sons, both under the age of 5, on a late night camping trip. This was after midnight in freezing, freezing temperatures. He says when he came home, his wife was gone.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOSH POWELL, HUSBAND OF SUSAN POWELL: A lot of times I`d just go camping with my boys. Not anything big. Just go overnight and we do s`mores and stuff like that and so I just went with the boys.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Camping with toddlers in freezing temperatures in the middle of the night. It`s an odd time for s`mores.

Joining me now with more on this desperate search, Susan`s heartbroken devastated father Chuck Cox; also joining me, former D.C. homicide detective Rod Wheeler.

Chuck Cox, first of all, our hearts go out to you. We want to help you find your daughter. We want to keep this case alive. These last six months obviously living hell for you.

What are cops telling you about what they have learned from their extensive investigation into your daughter`s disappearance?

COX: Well, they`re not sharing any details of their investigation with me other than that they are currently -- continue to chase down leads and look into all possibilities.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, they`re not talking to you? They`re not saying, hey, we tested that wet stain that was found on the carpet of the Powell home shortly after police went in there and we found xyz? They`re not telling you what they found from the vehicle that they tested that belonged to the Powells?

COX: No. I -- they`ve told me that they have some of the results back. They have looked at things. But they won`t -- they don`t share the details with me. It`s part of their investigation, ongoing investigation.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: How frustrating is that for you?

COX: It`s very frustrating. While I have confidence that they`re doing everything they can, it`s just difficult to be on the outside not knowing -- having to trust that they`re getting closer. And I do believe they`re following up on things. But it`s just very frustrating not to know exactly where things are.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, here`s my big issue tonight. It`s an old saying but does it apply in this case, no body, no crime? Susan`s husband has not been charged with anything but he`s been repeatedly questioned by cops and he is considered a person of interest because he was the last person to see his wife alive and his midnight camping trip certainly raises suspicions of Susan`s family.

Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

POWELL: Any help to try to find her would be appreciated. So we`d really -- that`s all. We just -- she`s somewhere.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know there quite a huge effort out in the west desert looking for any sign of her. Is that where you were camping?

POWELL: I just have to go get my boys.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Susan`s family says she would never let her kids go camping in the middle of the night on a Sunday night, much less walk out on them for good.

Chuck, what about Susan`s husband, Josh, failing to show up for work the next day after this camping trip on Monday, claiming he missed work because he got confused about what day it was when he went camping in the freezing temperature late Sunday night with his two young sons? What do you make of that?

COX: I don`t believe he miscounted the day. I don`t know what the real reason is why he came up with that story. We don`t believe that story. We are waiting for him to come forward and talk with the police. He actually hasn`t talked with the police since -- I believe it was like Wednesday after she went missing.

By the second interview they had and the third, he got an attorney and has been silent ever since. That`s very frustrating for us.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And apparently he`s left the state.

COX: Yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: He`s left the state and gone to live with his dad in Washington State.

I`ve got to ask Rod Wheeler. What should cops do? They have searched and searched and searched for a body, haven`t found one. Obviously they consider the husband a person of interest. By the way, we invite Josh on the show if he wants to tell his side of the story. We want to be fair. We did try to reach him and couldn`t. What should cops do now?

ROD WHEELER, FORMER D.C. HOMICIDE DETECTIVE: Well, you know, Jane, I can tell you exactly what the cops are doing now. And first of all, you know, my condolences go out to the gentlemen that -- on the panel with me here but I can tell you that the police are tight-lipped for a reason. And the reason that the cops are tight-lipped Jane is because they have not gotten much cooperation at all from Josh, who is the husband. That`s not unusual when a husband is involved in his wife`s missing. Ok.

So the fact that the cops have not said anything indicates to me that they are still focused on this guy, Josh. But not only that, Jane, they`re also focused on other people in the family. They`re trying to find out exactly what happened.

Now, there is some direct evidence, some physical evidence as you know -- I think you indicated earlier that they did find at the residence that they cannot account for. And that is bloodstains in the home in which Josh had fans trying to dry this bloodstain up in the house. You know that`s very interesting and that`s --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, it was a wet -- it was a wet mark. It was a wet mark. And that`s precisely what I`d like to know is when they tested that wet mark did they find blood.

I don`t think we`ve gotten the answer to that, have we, Chuck?

WHEELER: No. But, you know Jane, they probably won`t say that yet because they`re waiting until they can get the opportunity to interrogate this guy Josh again to see how much more he knows about the actual crime scene.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow. Well, Chuck, I just want to say, you know, we are going to stay on top of this case. We`re not going to let it go. We want you to come back real soon. And any time you have a tidbit, you call us because we`re going to put it on the air right here on ISSUES.

Thank you sir.

COX: Thank you. We did want -- the reason we put up the bulletin boards and got them out there or the billboards is so that people will remember her face. If there`s a chance that she is released some point or gets free, we want her to be recognized. So we want people to be on the lookout for her.   (????????????????????) < by me

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Thank you, sir. We`re going to make sure that happens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/15/ijvm.01.html


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Wyks on June 17, 2010, 07:08:24 PM
I agree, Nut!!!!! 

And good golly, WTH??  LE won't get off their @sses long enough to go after the seeming only incredible lead they HAD in their grasp at one point.. Josh.. and yet.......... the public is encouraged/invited/expected? to continue to search the entire west coast (how? where?) for Susan.   

IMO, all that is needed is for LE to march in and raid Josh's daddies home, slap cuffs on that little worm, haul his @ss back to Utah, and apply electric probes under his fingernails until he starts yelping the truth.  THEN maybe we'll get somewhere.  (well I guess the probes is going a bit far, but I think lack of sleep is still legal). 

Billboards... nice touch.  Six months later?  Not realistic IMO.  Do they really think we'll see Susan down at the Walmart?  fgs. 

I better get out of these cases for the moment, and off the computer.  Have become WAYYYYYYYYY too cynical for posting atm.   

Sadly.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: BooMonkey on June 18, 2010, 08:43:28 PM
IDK, I really thought this case would be solved as soon as the snow melted. I thought for sure they would be able to track where he went and bring her back home. Now those poor children are living with a murderer and are being made to believe their Mom left them without a second thought. I hope and pray Susan is found soon and all evidence will point to her husband.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2010, 11:32:38 PM
IDK, I really thought this case would be solved as soon as the snow melted. I thought for sure they would be able to track where he went and bring her back home. Now those poor children are living with a murderer and are being made to believe their Mom left them without a second thought. I hope and pray Susan is found soon and all evidence will point to her husband.


(Bolded by me)
ITA to what you've posted Boo, and particularly the last sentence.  I hope Susan is found soon and there will be justice for her.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 20, 2010, 06:22:27 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Oil spill clean-up crews discover body
updated: 3 pm today

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – Work crews, cleaning up the oil spill along the creek at the mouth of Red Butte Canyon made a gruesome discovery Sunday – a body.

Salt Lake police responded to the call shortly before noon. Officers confirmed it was the body of a person.

Sources tell ABC 4 News workers were scrubbing the thick, black oil from the banks of Red Butte Creek when they spotted the remains. Witnesses say the body was so badly decomposed they couldn’t determine whether it was that of a male or a female.

That evidence may suggest the person died before June 11
, the night of the oil spill and was not related to the event.

Salt Lake police cordoned off the scene where the body was found, on the north bank of the creek, as detectives investigated to try to determine the cause of the death and the identity of the person.
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/BREAKING-NEWS-Oil-spill-clean-up-crews-discover/RYGRRgfq00ubF4E96WIIqg.cspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 20, 2010, 06:24:05 PM
APX. distance to WVC  17 miles

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Red%20Butte%20Canyon%2C%20Salt%20Lake%20City%2C%20Salt%20Lake%2C%20Utah%2084108%20to%20West%20Valley%20City%20UT&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 21, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
It is now being reported as only a 'foot' and that it is male. ....then they mention dental records...ugh.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/local/kstu-decomposed-foot-found-near-red-butte-gardens,0,5142109.story


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 21, 2010, 07:00:00 PM
Body ID'd as Douglas Todd Nelson
http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/news/body-identified-at-red-butte-garden-creek-1.2276100


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: akmom on June 22, 2010, 12:26:42 AM
I am glad someone's family will have closure.
 

I remember you, Susan.....


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 23, 2010, 10:49:04 AM
http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4/blogs/story/Brent-Hunsaker-Is-this-Find-Susan-billboard-too/XMlEMop9y0yIfzF9F8NoSA.cspx
Brent Hunsaker - Is this "Find Susan" billboard too late?
(http://www.abc4.com/media/lib/5/8/c/9/8c92dc0f-c1ca-419a-852b-9f0a3aa92dca/Story.jpg)
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Last Update: 6/22 4:54 pm
The billboard asking for help in the search for Susan Cox Powell is finally up in the Salt Lake Valley.

The billboard can be found along the 201 Highway in Magna. If it’s not near you, don’t despair. Reagan Outdoor Advertising, which donated the billboard, will move the message every couple months to a new location (mostly on the west side of the Salt Lake Valley). Odds are you’ll see it at some point in its “tour” during the year.

In fact, a lot of people should see it. That’s the point.

Some have said the billboard is too little, too late. Their theory is that it might have done some good in the first days or even weeks of Susan’s disappearance, but now we’re just too far removed from the event (six months and counting) and memories have faded.

Two counterpoints:
 When it comes to a disappearance, certainly sooner is better in everything. But both the West Valley Police Department and the Susan Cox Powell Foundation are to be commended for their working hard in to get this billboard deal done. It is never too late unless the case has already been solved.


- The billboard is needed now more than ever so people will not forget. There are so many positive things that can happen when the public remains engaged in an issue. This helps.

As much as I hate to admit it, not everyone has seen my stories on Susan over the past few months. Nor have they read all that’s been printed in newspapers or all that’s been spoken on radio. The billboard will extend the reach of the message: “This young mother is still missing. Please help.”

You never know what will be the “one thing” that breaks this case wide open, so you try everything.

Six months later is not “too late.”


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on June 29, 2010, 11:17:03 AM
i almost forgot about the search, some info i found on it

Where is Susan Powell
6262010 Search for Susan Powell

Chris Willden I just wanted to express my personal THANK and GRATITUDE to everyone who attended the search on Saturday. A LOT of ground was covered and a couple items of interest were emailed to Tooele County S.O. (GPS Cords) Three flat tires total (thanks to donations we had plug kits and were able to repair them and inflate them... so they coulr either continue searching or get to a service station and get them repaired, LOTS of water drank and taken home, NO INJURIES, Munchies all eaten, more friends made, LOTS of effort put out by everyone, K-9's worked longer than anticipated (American Search and Rescue), Medics were bored (thats good), and estimate about 25-30 miles covered in the West Desert. Thank you again!See More
Yesterday at 11:08am
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=198478842187&v=wall

search pics from LindaOz53
http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt73/LindaOz53/6262010%20Search/

slide show
http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt73/LindaOz53/6262010%20Search/?albumview=slideshow


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on July 13, 2010, 02:07:36 PM
from,Friends and Family of Susan Powell
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=198478842187&v=wall

Chuck Cox Still here, still waiting, still praying, still thankful for everyone's support. Someone, somewhere, has to know something that will help find Susan. Share Susan's story and pictures with people you meet, the more eyes looking for Susan, the better.10 hours ago ·

Jazzlyn Oakes does anyone talk to the people who moved into the house or made friends with them....is there any way that the police rented the house to monitor things?? thx14 hours ago ·

Kiirsi Branham Hellewell I know them. They're nice people, friends with Josh and Susan. They're not police. 4 hours ago

Quail Feathers Who remembers this ABC News video with George S.? The legal opinions are interesting and "educational." IMO, the prognosis is uncertain at this time.Why Joshua Powell Is Not a Suspect
abcnews.go.com
Why Joshua Powell Is Not a Suspect
18 hours ago ·
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=9398638



Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on July 13, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
i think tere are 2 new pgs at susanpowell.org

http://susanpowell.org/Pages/JoshPowell.aspx
http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/MormonsMobilize.aspx

snip
In spite of Josh's initial willingness to give these people the benefit of the doubt, they have chosen to be completely adversarial toward his family. From the beginning, their numerous statements and blogs have not only attempted to suppress the voice of all "outsiders," but have also ridiculed the grieving of the Powell family. There seems to be one core issue that motivates this group of detractors, and that is their religious cohesion.

The proficiency of the Mormon Church to organize and motivate people to action can be used for positive purposes, such as when church members help people with moving or with home repairs. However, this solidarity also motivates individuals to cover for fellow Mormons and attack perceived critics of Mormonism.

All of the known administrators and all of the leaders of the "Susan Cox Powell" movement to date (May 2010) are Mormons. It is undeniable that the tone and rhetoric is led by Mormons. We do offer thanks to the many people who have supported Susan and her family in a positive way. However, too many supporters are openly parroting the Mormons' hostility toward Josh and his father Steve, because Steve is an ex-Mormon.

From the beginning, Susan's father, Chuck Cox, started using the Mormon Church phone directory and Facebook as networks to privately contact Josh's friends and loved ones. Multiple reports and evidence of this came back to Josh. Among other things, Chuck was asking people to "pressure" Josh, asking them to withhold affection and friendship, and asking them to spy on Josh. In addition, Chuck's organization used the media to spread rumors and innuendo.

another snip
Leaving Mormonism
Josh and his family have recently been objects of contempt for "investigating Christianity as an alternative to Mormonism." It is unbelievable that anyone would feel threatened by hearing about the family's spiritual progress, considering the importance of God in this family's life. According to an ABC news story, Josh has his free agency to make choices, but "he is taking his two young boys [out of the Mormon church]. That infuriates friends of Susan." Obviously, this decision was difficult and painful, but a necessary decision for Josh and his children.
more
http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/MormonsMobilize.aspx


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on July 14, 2010, 12:11:58 PM
The Mormon Church Members have let down a grieving family and our nation.
They have hidden the truth by supporting a murderer.
I have seen this many times in my life where members of an organization misinterpret policy into there own views and commit wrong doings.

This is wrong. Period.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mizjay on July 17, 2010, 10:44:51 AM
i think tere are 2 new pgs at susanpowell.org

http://susanpowell.org/Pages/JoshPowell.aspx
http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/MormonsMobilize.aspx

snip
In spite of Josh's initial willingness to give these people the benefit of the doubt, they have chosen to be completely adversarial toward his family. From the beginning, their numerous statements and blogs have not only attempted to suppress the voice of all "outsiders," but have also ridiculed the grieving of the Powell family. There seems to be one core issue that motivates this group of detractors, and that is their religious cohesion.

The proficiency of the Mormon Church to organize and motivate people to action can be used for positive purposes, such as when church members help people with moving or with home repairs. However, this solidarity also motivates individuals to cover for fellow Mormons and attack perceived critics of Mormonism.

All of the known administrators and all of the leaders of the "Susan Cox Powell" movement to date (May 2010) are Mormons. It is undeniable that the tone and rhetoric is led by Mormons. We do offer thanks to the many people who have supported Susan and her family in a positive way. However, too many supporters are openly parroting the Mormons' hostility toward Josh and his father Steve, because Steve is an ex-Mormon.

From the beginning, Susan's father, Chuck Cox, started using the Mormon Church phone directory and Facebook as networks to privately contact Josh's friends and loved ones. Multiple reports and evidence of this came back to Josh. Among other things, Chuck was asking people to "pressure" Josh, asking them to withhold affection and friendship, and asking them to spy on Josh. In addition, Chuck's organization used the media to spread rumors and innuendo.

another snip
Leaving Mormonism
Josh and his family have recently been objects of contempt for "investigating Christianity as an alternative to Mormonism." It is unbelievable that anyone would feel threatened by hearing about the family's spiritual progress, considering the importance of God in this family's life. According to an ABC news story, Josh has his free agency to make choices, but "he is taking his two young boys [out of the Mormon church]. That infuriates friends of Susan." Obviously, this decision was difficult and painful, but a necessary decision for Josh and his children.
more
http://susanpowell.org/Pages/Response/MormonsMobilize.aspx

It's interesting how the Powells are using the religion card to further distance Josh from the past. I always thought that the overwhelming support and ridiculous NON judgemental attitude the Mormans gave him in the beginning is how he managed to get away with this.  So many brotherly comments , a hoard of busy helper bees to clean the crime scene (house) and pack up his crap to move.... now the powell's can really cut the ties from any former friends who may inquire about him or the kids. Snip off all those pesky nosy people who fondly remember Susan.  I've got no opinion on the religious part but it's a strategic move.....erase the past.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 22, 2010, 01:38:43 PM
Nearly 8 months since she went 'missing'..... I guess Josh gets to move on with her children under his Daddy's roof and nothing will be done ....  ::MonkeyNoNo:: This case is a disgrace to society.....to humanity... and especially to Susan's family!  PATHETIC!


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mizjay on July 27, 2010, 11:48:40 PM
Nearly 8 months since she went 'missing'..... I guess Josh gets to move on with her children under his Daddy's roof and nothing will be done ....  ::MonkeyNoNo:: This case is a disgrace to society.....to humanity... and especially to Susan's family!  PATHETIC!

**My Opinion Only**    one of these days, maybe years from now, I predict that another significant other of Josh Powell will disappear, he's a paranoid controlling ticking time bomb.    Where's Susan? 


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2010, 02:31:34 PM
mizjay..... I would not be at all surprised at that....  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: Edward on July 30, 2010, 01:15:27 PM
All that support Josh are just a guilty as he is.

MURDER !


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: mizjay on July 31, 2010, 06:55:47 PM
All that support Josh are just a guilty as he is.

MURDER !
I agree with ya on that.  And aside from gang bang, street thugs killers, ( who are so desensitized to human value)  I really think that most murderers are nurtured throughout their lives. Bad behavior, odd behavior, acting out, paranoia, manipulation, threats, mental issues, etc, etc..........so that when the person does kill, the family or close friends deep down can believe it, they choose to not deal with it just like they have always done.   Wonder why that is?  Like maybe he was just driven to do it , it's a one time thing...I don't see how they rationalize it.
I don't get it.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 07, 2010, 09:25:51 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m8d6-Government-employee-sabotages-mine-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-Part-2-Photos
Government employee sabotages mine search for Susan Cox Powell, Part 2 (Photos)
August 6, 9:59 PMSeattle Headlines ExaminerIsabelle Zehnder

August 6, 2010 - A government employee working for the Division of Gas, Oil, and Mining (DOGM) allegedly sabotaged efforts to search a breached mine for clues into Susan Cox Powell’s disappearance after the West Valley City Police Department (WVCPD) alerted him of the search.

Corey Shuman, President of Gold Mine Expeditions, contacted the DOGM to complain about the slanderous statements made by the DOGM employee to the landowner. A conference call between the parties was organized.

Conference call

The conference call was placed Wed., August 4 at 1 p.m. by Dana Dean, the Assistant Director of DOGM.

Also on the call for DOGM were John Baza, Director of DOGM, and Luci Malin, Director of Utah’s Abandoned Mine Reclamation Program (UAMRP).

Representatives of the Susan Cox Powell search effort included Jeremiah Chesley for MU, Corey Shuman, President of GRE, Linda Osborne for the Susan Cox Powell search effort, and attorney Russ Hartill who provided office space for the call in Sandy, Utah.

Hartill represents both Gold Rush Expeditions and Mojave Underground in their individual capacities as mine exploration groups.

“The conference call was in response to actions taken by an employee within DOGM that appeared to have the effect of discouraging private landowners from cooperating with GRE, MU, and the Susan Cox Powell search effort,” Hartill said.

According to Linda Osborne, DOGM’s Dana Dean apologized for the DOGM employee’s actions that created an atmosphere that resulted in one landowner revoking permission to search his mine.

The intent of the search group was to lower a camera into the mine. When asked if this was legal, Hartill said Luci admitted this would NOT be in violation of Utah law.

Hartill said, “I am at a bit of a loss as to why a DOGM employee would so characterize our coalition of volunteers (who are merely trying to help give the Powell family and friends some closure) as partygoers.”

Shuman said, “It is unfortunate the DOGM employee acted recklessly of his own accord without the backing of the DOGM.”

Mr. Baza, DOGM Director, indicated he wished to continue better communication between the parties and Dana assured GRE, MU, and Linda that what transpired in this case would not happen again.

DOGM agreed if they are contacted by law enforcement in future mine searches for Susan, they will refer them back to the involved parties.

“We came out of the phone call encouraged and with the felling we are back on track in assisting the Susan Cox Powell search effort,” Hartill said.

Linda stated she would attempt to contact the landowner of the original, breached mine, to see if they can work together to have the mine searched.

Hartill stressed that both GRE and MU have members with unique sets of technical experience in examining old mines.

Hundreds of mines in Utah are scheduled to be backfilled beginning August 15, 2010. Attorney Hartill said the backfilling process creates a “permanent airtight closure.” Click here for Part 3, “Backfilling to begin August 15”.
Susan Cox Powell, reported missing Dec. 7, 2009

Susan is the 28-year-old mother of two who disappeared from her West Valley City home in Utah. Her husband, Josh Powell, remains the only person of interest in what police call a missing person’s case with suspicious criminal overtones.

Within a month of Susan’s disappearance, Josh moved to their hometown of Puyallup, Washington, where he currently resides with his father, siblings, and two young sons.

Josh told police and media that just after Susan went to bed on Sun., Dec. 6, he took their two young sons, then ages 2 and 4, on an overnight camping trip.

It was snowing that night and temperatures were subfreezing. He claims he forgot what day it was and that he went camping because he and his boys liked to do S'Mores. He said when he returned the following day his wife had disappeared and he didn't know where she was.

His story has been largely criticized and disbelieved.

Part 1 – Search efforts thwarted  http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m8d6-Government-employee-sabotages-mine-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-Part-1-Photos
Part 2 - Conference call  http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m8d6-Government-employee-sabotages-mine-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-Part-2-Photos
Part 3 – Backfilling mines: How it can hinder search for Susan  http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m8d6-Government-employee-sabotages-mine-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-Part-3-Photos
Part 4 – Details of what transpired between search group and government agencies  http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-34328-Seattle-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m8d6-Government-employee-sabotages-mine-search-for-Susan-Cox-Powell-Part-4-Photos


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on August 10, 2010, 08:13:13 PM
trimm i think i had mentioned b4 that the owners of the mines, in utah an elsewhere
would not be receptive to outsiders, i know a few, and they are protective of their
claims, has to do with GOLD, not people missing, sometimes it takes yrs for the owner
to get back to their claim. it is said that the blm has workers that sorta oversee theses
 claims for a fee, a fee off the blm payroll of course, and once a mine has been
back filled, it is a difficult task,$$$ and labor to undo safely
the seachers would be better off checking this and talk to the claim owner

http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/index.shtm
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp?MAP=MC
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/reference/NILS_GC_How_to_use_guide_LSIS_2007.pdf


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on August 11, 2010, 01:59:36 PM
trimm i think i had mentioned b4 that the owners of the mines, in utah an elsewhere
would not be receptive to outsiders, i know a few, and they are protective of their
claims, has to do with GOLD, not people missing, sometimes it takes yrs for the owner
to get back to their claim. it is said that the blm has workers that sorta oversee theses
 claims for a fee, a fee off the blm payroll of course, and once a mine has been
back filled, it is a difficult task,$$$ and labor to undo safely
the seachers would be better off checking this and talk to the claim owner

http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/index.shtm
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp?MAP=MC
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/reference/NILS_GC_How_to_use_guide_LSIS_2007.pdf

not sure if any monkeys are helping in the searches or talk to the searchers
sorry i forgot a link for the above map system

A. choose state/utah
B.choose county/Tooele
C. choose all forests
click search, you get a list of claims, click the heading { more info } will give the name of the owner, if you click the blue i, it will located on the map

claim search
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/mining_claim_search.faces

how to use
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/reference/NILS_GC_How_to_use_guide_LSIS_2007.pdf


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: cw618 on August 11, 2010, 02:07:15 PM
Quote
not sure if any monkeys are helping in the searches or talk to the searchers
sorry i forgot a link for the above map system

A. choose state/utah
B.choose county/Tooele
C. choose all forests
click search, you get a list of claims, click the heading { more info } will give the name of the owner, if you click the blue i, it will located on the map

claim search
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/mining_claim_search.faces

how to use
http://www.geocommunicator.gov/GeoComm/reference/NILS_GC_How_to_use_guide_LSIS_2007.pdf

sorry bad case of crs today
you can click heading [ reports] for owner info name, addy, ect.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2010, 03:16:37 PM
cw618,thanks for posting that info,I remember you mentioning the mines before.
Hopefully if we have any monkeys here that are invloved in the searches they will see and use your information.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on August 17, 2010, 12:46:59 PM
Since this thread has gone beyond the recommended 50, I am going to lock it and open a new one.


Title: Re: Susan Powell, 28yrs old, missing since 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on August 17, 2010, 12:47:55 PM
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