Lively Case Discussion #596 4/4- 4/7/2007

[crazymom]

Klaasend,

I am on a different computer and need to send you an email but I don't have your address.

HELP!!

[Elaine]

I found some more info through Google. Seems that this has made headlines all over Australia.

I find it disturbing that 2 of the creeps were working at a butcher shop. Could that fact mean that they were desensitized to the plight of the girl? I think she is VERY fortunate they did not do anything to her along those lines.

That also resonates with our case as well.

Hi monkeys! SB, I would presume that this does resonate with our case, as far as perps and witnesses who videotaped. In this case, however, I think it went a step further because adults may have been involved. And Ntalee, the victim is missing.  And as bad as this case in Australia is (and it is very bad), thank God the girl is still alive. Perps like this who are cruel enough to even preform these acts, have no regard for human life. JMO

[Buckeye]

Klaas

Have you downloaded or used Google Earth?? I think you'd like it.  I will try to find your posting later.  Maybe it takes awhile to load.

[sb]

I was wondering about similarities to our case in the MO of the suspects.

And how the victim was treated.

Can this kind of rape/attack be a WORLDWIDE "marker" of sorts for deranged young men sort of a fad they participate in?

[klaasend]

Klaasend,

I am on a different computer and need to send you an email but I don't have your address.

HELP!!

smklaasend@hotmail.com

[Elaine]

I was wondering about similarities to our case in the MO of the suspects.

And how the victim was treated.

Can this kind of rape/attack be a WORLDWIDE "marker" of sorts for deranged young men sort of a fad they participate in?

unfortunately, it may very well be possible. It is a subject I am interested in delving into some more. If I find some common link to what you speak of, I will post it.

[Tibrogargan]

I found some more info through Google. Seems that this has made headlines all over Australia.

I find it disturbing that 2 of the creeps were working at a butcher shop. Could that fact mean that they were desensitized to the plight of the girl? I think she is VERY fortunate they did not do anything to her along those lines.

That also resonates with our case as well.

Hi monkeys! SB, I would presume that this does resonate with our case, as far as perps and witnesses who videotaped. In this case, however, I think it went a step further because adults may have been involved. And Ntalee, the victim is missing.  And as bad as this case in Australia is (and it is very bad), thank God the girl is still alive. Perps like this who are cruel enough to even preform these acts, have no regard for human life. JMO

Hi Elaine!  Yes it was the MO that was my point in bringing this article to the monkeys.  Seems like it is a worldwide epidemic.  I also wonder that as the victim has no recall of the events how traumatised is she compared to being conscious during the ordeal as are some victims?  The humiliation of having the video broadcast everywhere including her own school mates would be bad enough, without the violation and degradation of the attack.
These perverted scumbags need a butchers knife wielded on them.

[klaasend]

Looks like Steve Cohen has a new job  

http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/hometeam-adds-stephen-j-cohen-as/n20070404092509990032

Updated:2007-04-04 09:25:33

HomeTeam Adds Stephen J. Cohen as President

BUSINESS WIRE
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In addition to his media and consulting experience, during his career Cohen has developed several successful Web 2.0 businesses. Cohen is the recipient of four Emmy awards for excellence in news. He holds three degrees, including a bachelor of science in Secondary Education and a master of arts in Modern European History from Penn State University, and a master of arts in Journalism from Michigan State University. He currently serves as a board member of the Broadcast Education Association.

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[klaasend]

I was wondering about similarities to our case in the MO of the suspects.

And how the victim was treated.

Can this kind of rape/attack be a WORLDWIDE "marker" of sorts for deranged young men sort of a fad they participate in?

unfortunately, it may very well be possible. It is a subject I am interested in delving into some more. If I find some common link to what you speak of, I will post it.

Elaine - did you get my email?

[Elaine]

Hi Elaine!  Yes it was the MO that was my point in bringing this article to the monkeys.  Seems like it is a worldwide epidemic.  I also wonder that as the victim has no recall of the events how traumatised is she compared to being conscious during the ordeal as are some victims?  The humiliation of having the video broadcast everywhere including her own school mates would be bad enough, without the violation and degradation of the attack.
These perverted scumbags need a butchers knife wielded on them.

Thank you for bringing it over. I appreciate it, as do the other monkeys. The public in general needs to be aware of these crimes, or they cannot do anything to try and prevent them in the future.

[Tibrogargan]

I was wondering about similarities to our case in the MO of the suspects.

And how the victim was treated.

Can this kind of rape/attack be a WORLDWIDE "marker" of sorts for deranged young men sort of a fad they participate in?

unfortunately, it may very well be possible. It is a subject I am interested in delving into some more. If I find some common link to what you speak of, I will post it.

I opened a thread in the Crimes against Children forum where I posted the main article on Klaas" advice.  It would be interesting if there is a common thread to this type of crime.  Are you considering background and upbringing in this subject.  I would think that their racial background may well be significant in this.

[Elaine]

I was wondering about similarities to our case in the MO of the suspects.

And how the victim was treated.

Can this kind of rape/attack be a WORLDWIDE "marker" of sorts for deranged young men sort of a fad they participate in?

unfortunately, it may very well be possible. It is a subject I am interested in delving into some more. If I find some common link to what you speak of, I will post it.

Elaine - did you get my email?

ooops, no I will go look, brb

[BTgirl]

I was wondering about similarities to our case in the MO of the suspects.

And how the victim was treated.

Can this kind of rape/attack be a WORLDWIDE "marker" of sorts for deranged young men sort of a fad they participate in?

unfortunately, it may very well be possible. It is a subject I am interested in delving into some more. If I find some common link to what you speak of, I will post it.

I opened a thread in the Crimes against Children forum where I posted the main article on Klaas" advice.  It would be interesting if there is a common thread to this type of crime.  Are you considering background and upbringing in this subject.  I would think that their racial background may well be significant in this.

Tibro - I know there are people who will disagree vehemently with me on what I'm about to say, but I truly believe violent video games and easy access to pornography are partly the cause of this behavior. If young men "practice" violence repeatedly as they are growing up, and if they see women used as objects in pornography, I think it has to have a serious effect on them.

[Lala'sMom]

Hey guys! This just in:  Local area Wally World reported the strangest thing today.  Some woman raced into the store and grabbed a shopping cart.  Taking out three elderly ladies in aisle 5, the person then demanded entrance to the self-checkout lane.  She said she was just trying it out.  After a quick exit the person in question ran a red light at the intersection and zoomed off into the sunset.  Witnesses claim the person driving the car resembled a monkey.  One of the elderly ladies said she was mumbling about a our southern accents and our slow paced driving.  Police believe this person had an accomplice in the car that was armed and dangerous.  Should anyone see these two monkeys...uh, I mean...women please call the authorities.  Do not attempt to apprehend!


Klaas I have proof you were in my neighborhood...wonder if there is a reward?  Was that San riding shotgun with you?

Evening monkeys.

[Cat]

I think that these pervs haven't escalated yet.It is a process of violence that increases/Have they been bed wetters,animal abuse set fires.They are now dangerous,and will become more dangerous.I feel this jvds's pattern,and possible others.Lurking cat

[Cat]

Yes,I heard that on crimestoppers,Lala'.They have a reward.CAT

[klaasend]

Hey guys! This just in:  Local area Wally World reported the strangest thing today.  Some woman raced into the store and grabbed a shopping cart.  Taking out three elderly ladies in aisle 5, the person then demanded entrance to the self-checkout lane.  She said she was just trying it out.  After a quick exit the person in question ran a red light at the intersection and zoomed off into the sunset.  Witnesses claim the person driving the car resembled a monkey.  One of the elderly ladies said she was mumbling about a our southern accents and our slow paced driving.  Police believe this person had an accomplice in the car that was armed and dangerous.  Should anyone see these two monkeys...uh, I mean...women please call the authorities.  Do not attempt to apprehend!


Klaas I have proof you were in my neighborhood...wonder if there is a reward?  Was that San riding shotgun with you?

Evening monkeys.

ROFLMAO    

[Elaine]

I was wondering about similarities to our case in the MO of the suspects.

And how the victim was treated.

Can this kind of rape/attack be a WORLDWIDE "marker" of sorts for deranged young men sort of a fad they participate in?

unfortunately, it may very well be possible. It is a subject I am interested in delving into some more. If I find some common link to what you speak of, I will post it.

Elaine - did you get my email?

Klaas, youve got mail (at the gmail address)

[Cat]

Yes,BT.I think the games and porn help break walls down,to dehumanize these creatures.CAT

[klaasend]

Elaine - very cool!!