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« Reply #880 on: March 01, 2009, 01:45:25 AM »

TM .... So Those are recent pics... Freddie is in Aruba?

Yes, Freddy hasn't left Aruba to my knowledge
Thanks Klaas......I thought He was MIA! 
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« Reply #881 on: March 01, 2009, 01:49:45 AM »


http://kaplanindustry.com/index.htm

Kaplan Industry is a leading independent international development consultancy, based in Panama with a registered office in Panama City and mayor project offices located in developing and transitional countries worldwide.

Has a long history of working with Government and National Oil & Gas Company, PDVSA, in Venezuela. Our key objective is to assist our clients all over the world in achieving the millennium development targets. Our operations in South America will continue to be in areas directly related to the infrastructure, oil exploration to development and production offshore.

Our core expertise lies in the fields of government and enterprise/utility reform and in a range of closely related critical support areas,notably policy communications and offshore industry reform. We are developing our expertise in the infrastructure and oil exploration to build upon our existing track record in these sectors.



I believe Superior leased the 2 Gulmar ships from this company LifeSong.Gulmar Energy SA.If you go to the website both these boats are registered in Panama.So with the leasing of these boats,as well as Kaplan industry we have two connections to Panama..What was Mermis going to Venezuela for???


http://www.gulmaroffshore.com/
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« Reply #882 on: March 01, 2009, 01:51:28 AM »

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« Reply #883 on: March 01, 2009, 01:53:49 AM »

Freddy knows

Didn't someone say that or something similar long ago?

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« Reply #884 on: March 01, 2009, 02:07:12 AM »

Freddy knows

Didn't someone say that or something similar long ago?

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Nite OS! Yep Freddie Supposedly knows! 
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« Reply #885 on: March 01, 2009, 02:08:23 AM »

Good Night All!

Justice for Natalee!
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« Reply #886 on: March 01, 2009, 02:09:38 AM »

Good Night All!

Justice for Natalee!

Goodnight Hotping!
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« Reply #887 on: March 01, 2009, 02:17:00 AM »

Good Night All!

Justice for Natalee!

Goodnight Hotping!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #888 on: March 01, 2009, 02:18:10 AM »

Freddy knows

Didn't someone say that or something similar long ago?

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Nite OS! Yep Freddie Supposedly knows! 

Goodnight OS & Hotping.

Freddy needs to tell the truth.
So does Joran, Paulus, Deepak, Satish, Jan vdS., Karin J., Dompig, Ed/Papito, Dolph Richardson, Hans Mos, Clyde Burke, Louis Schaefer, John D. Silvetti, and Kyle Kingman.


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« Reply #889 on: March 01, 2009, 02:19:58 AM »

Freddy knows

Didn't someone say that or something similar long ago?

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Hi, Os. Yes, I used to post that on the front page all the time.     We know he knows.

It's good seeing you here.  Monkeys, I am up late.  My house is flooded.  All my hardwood floors squeak with water when I walk.  That is why I was gone so long.  I  felt water underfoot and I was looking for Derry to see if she had had an accident.  I walked a few feet farther and another big puddle.  I knew that was too curious, so I got DH to come check and we have flooding coming from within the walls and under the slab. 
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« Reply #890 on: March 01, 2009, 02:23:25 AM »

Freddy knows

Didn't someone say that or something similar long ago?

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Hi, Os. Yes, I used to post that on the front page all the time.     We know he knows.

It's good seeing you here.  Monkeys, I am up late.  My house is flooded.  All my hardwood floors squeak with water when I walk.  That is why I was gone so long.  I  felt water underfoot and I was looking for Derry to see if she had had an accident.  I walked a few feet farther and another big puddle.  I knew that was too curious, so I got DH to come check and we have flooding coming from within the walls and under the slab. 


Oh my, Tylergal!!  Has the rain stopped?
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« Reply #891 on: March 01, 2009, 02:24:02 AM »



Is that Raymbert Bikker on the right?  Here is an old picture of Raymbert:





I still can't tell for sure.  He's another picture where the name tag is visible, but even blowing it up I can't tell what it says.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #892 on: March 01, 2009, 02:26:20 AM »

Freddy knows

Didn't someone say that or something similar long ago?

Nite all

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Hi, Os. Yes, I used to post that on the front page all the time.     We know he knows.

It's good seeing you here.  Monkeys, I am up late.  My house is flooded.  All my hardwood floors squeak with water when I walk.  That is why I was gone so long.  I  felt water underfoot and I was looking for Derry to see if she had had an accident.  I walked a few feet farther and another big puddle.  I knew that was too curious, so I got DH to come check and we have flooding coming from within the walls and under the slab. 


 

That's terrible Tylergal!  I'm so sorry...what a mess!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #893 on: March 01, 2009, 03:00:42 AM »



Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #895 on: March 01, 2009, 07:22:17 AM »

RE: The name tag on the guy on the right ... the last name on it doesn't look long enough to be 'Bikker'. It looks to be about 3 letters. Whoever he is, he really should grow his hair longer 
Can anyone tell what the LOGO on the shirts are?
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« Reply #897 on: March 01, 2009, 09:16:35 AM »

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The lastest from Natalee's Freebirds:


What Does Freddie Know?

Several references have been made by suspects in the disappearance of
Natalee Holloway about the knowledge of another suspect - Freddie Alexander Arambatzis.

There have been references made regarding Freddie about Joran's shoes,
Natalee remaining "passed out", a camera, and Freddie knowing "the truth".


Diario 12/6/2006
http://www.diario-aruba.com/2006/12/6/

...the fact that Joran had already on the 30th of May
told Freddy the story about the Holliday Inn and that Joran told Freddy
also that “they” went into panic when Natalee remained “passed out”!



Statement
Freddy Zedan
June 12th 2005

The girl had fallen several times on the way to the beach. Joran told me that at some point she "no longer came around/no longer regained consciousness" and that they had left her on the beach.

He also told me that he had left his gym/sporting shoes on the beach. After Joran had told me this, I asked him why he had left her there. He answered me that at that moment he had not known what to do.


Freddie was brought to the van der Sloot home after he spoke with
Aruban authorities in the early days of this investigation.
He was grilled by Joran's parents as to what he told police regarding their son, and Natalee Holloway.

Freddie states that Joran told him they had left Natalee at the beach, while at the same time Joran was still telling authorities he and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe had left Natalee at the Holiday Inn


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 18, 2005

“I believed the story that Joran, Deepak and Satish told, until Joran changed his statement. After that Freddy came to us and told us a different story. Joran had gone with the girl to the beach. (With Freddy is meant the witness Freddy ZEDAN; comment TROMP).

Freddy had told this story shortly after he was interviewed by the police.
He had called my wife and had said that he found it important to tell the truth. After that he came over to us and he first talked to my wife. After that he came back one time and and he spoke with Joran's lawyer, his parents, me and my wife were also present. My wife and myself were very crushed/saddened/injured and angry at Joran for apparently not telling us the truth. My wife and the lawyer then confronted Joran about this. According to my wife Joran reacted calmly and said that he had always told Freddy the truth.


Paulus van der Sloot
Suspect Statement
June 23, 2005

To your question whether Freddy ZEDAN came to our house out of his own accord or whether I had invited him, I can state the following. According to me Freddy phoned my wife after he had been questioned by the police. According to me he and his girlfriend came over to see my wife and he told what he had stated to the police. I was busy in the kitchen and did not hear everything Freddy was saying. Only at
the end of the conversation I joined them. My wife and I were angry at Joran, because he did not tell the truth from the beginning. My wife planned to confront Joran with Freddy's statements. That night we were going to have a meeting with Mr. A. CARLO, this was a previously planned meeting. My wife called Freddy again and asked him if he could tell his story again to Joran's lawyer. At first he didn't want to come because he had an exam the very next day but in the end he and his parents came over. He then told the story he knew to Joran's lawyer. I am convinced that Mr. CARLO did this with the best intentions possible


JORAN'S BOOK
Page 154, Freddy after his June 12 statement:

(Joran) That night Freddy, per request of my mother, visited, to tell
everything.

Freddy's parents are coming along, because they do not find it a good idea that Freddy goes alone. Besides my father Paul and my mother Anita.
My lawyer Anthony Carlo is also present at our home per request of my mother.

My mother asks Freddy to tell everything again.

Freddy: I could see on Anita's face that she did not know Joran had left the girl on the beach and that he has lost his shoes.

I also told that Joran, Deepak, Satish and me had talked about it that I would buy new shoes for Joran.

Anita could not believe everything I was telling. (as in amazed).

Carlo asks several times why Freddy thinks that Joran left his shoes behind.

Freddy answers: Joran did not want to walk with his shoes on the beach and probably left them behind because of that.

Freddy tells the beach story again that I would have told him on Monday May 30.

Carlo in between asks questions all the time.

Freddy: I felt he asked me those things because he thought that me as a good friend of Joran could understand why he had done these things. I do not believe he asked those questions because he thought Joran would have told me, because he repeated every time: Why do you think that?

My father does not ask Freddy anything, but he does react on Freddy's answers to my mother. He says: why does Joran lie, and why did he not tell us that? My mother had promised the conversation would last 10 minutes max, but after half an hour Freddy's father gets up.

My parents did not agree with Joran's parents having invited me, Freddy says.

After Carlo had called the head officer for permission to visit me, he confronts me with what Freddy had said. I immediately admitted I had lied and that Freddy was telling the truth.


Deepak Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 11, 2005

I also have to tell you that Joran was wearing white sneakers/sport shoes that night. If you search/investigate his home then you will see that the shoes aren't there. He had told me that he had theft them on the beach.
To your question whether I of if Joran told the story to someone else,
than I can say the following. I know Joran told his story to his friend named Freddy ZEDAN. Freddy lives behind Joran. His mobile phone number is inside my mobile phone.

To your question whether Joran told me what he had told Freddy,
I can say the following. Joran told me that he had told Freddy the
truth and the story that was made up. I know that he trusts Freddy more because they have known each other for a long time. If you go and talk to Freddy, he will tell you the made up story and maybe also the truth.


Satish Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 30, 2005

On your question who can tell the truth to you, with the exception of Joran, Deepak and I, I can tell you the following:
Freddy is the person Joran confides in and he can tell you the truth.

Satish Kalpoe
Suspect Statement
June 24, 2005

On your question who Joran's best friend is:
Freddy Zedan is Joran’s best friend. Freddy knew about the invented Holiday Inn and the tale which my brother and I and Joran told and that the missing girl was dropped off at the beach at the Marriott. My brother Deepak had told me that he and Joran invented the tale but to Freddy the beach tale was told. I thought that stunk, because I was not aware Freddy was told the beach tale. (note: tale does not necessarily mean lie, could mean story).

I have met Freddy two times after it was confessed that the girl became missing.

...the second time was when Joran, my brother and I took the camera to Freddy’s house.
We delivered the camera to Freddy, and afterwards all four of us ate Chinese in the area of Freddy’s house. Freddy also lives in Montanja. I do not remember his house number. We had bought food and we then we went to Joran’s apartment afterwards. According to me Freddy
was informed then already about the missing girl. We may have spoken some about the missing girl, it is possible but I don’t remember.

You ask me if I was scared when we were talking with Freddy about the missing girl. It is possible that I don’t remember. I say that we, Deepak and I, did not know that Freddy knew the real story. The real story, which was on the beach. It do not understand why Freddy was told that, according to me he knew both stories already.


Wednesday June 22, 2005
While being transferred from police station to KIA, Deepak and Satish are secretly recorded in a 40min conversation:

D: And I also trusted Freddy like a brother.
S: Yes.
D: But he also talked shit, that's why we've been arrested.
S: What did he say?
D: He keeps information behind. You know that Van der Sloot trusts Freddy with his life. Freddy knows what has happened. Freddy knows the truth.
S: I know he knows truth
D: Freddy knows, Freddy knows.
S: I've just said, Freddy also knows about the story of what happened, ask him.
D: Freddy knows


Deepak and Satish are being questioned in Orangestad at the same time and are transported back to KIA along with Joran in a minivan. The following conversation is recorded:


Joran: You know no good that my father has nothing to do [with this}. I have read your statements, friend. You two are lying shit. (then very calmly) You know what happened with that girl. If you don't know it, then nothing happened. (then angrily) So, f*** you. What do you say, that Freddy has to be arrested?
Deepak: That Freddy has to tell the truth.
Joran: You know very well that Freddy has told the truth.
Satish: You will see, you will see.
Deepak: You could have prevented it from the beginning, this, of your
father. You know it. That he wasn't arrested.


Freddie himself was detained by authorities in this case - and then subsequently released. .

Diana Emerencia - Freddy's attorney
Decatur Daily News
August 31, 2005

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050831/aruba.shtml

Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, a friend of van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, was arrested on suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia.

Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, she said.

*Did Freddie have involvement in Natalee's disappearance?

* What "truth" does Freddie know that could shed light on the circumstances surrounding this tragic crime?

* Why did the Kalpoe brothers need to give a camera to Freddy?

* What sort of history regarding similar crimes do Freddie and Joran share?

* Why did Paulus and Anita need to find out what Freddy told police?

* Has Freddie told Aruban authorities all he knows about what happened to Natalee Holloway?
 
Natalee and her family deserve justice, and we will not let up until they have it!
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« Reply #898 on: March 01, 2009, 09:27:57 AM »

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« Reply #899 on: March 01, 2009, 09:35:25 AM »

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