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Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony #140 6/24/09 - 7/05/09 (Read 290873 times)
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mamacrazy30
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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June 28, 2009, 04:32:47 PM »
Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 28, 2009, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on June 28, 2009, 04:25:53 PM
Fanny, who is that picture of?
I dunno....
holy comoley..howd ya get my baby picture????
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June 28, 2009, 04:34:56 PM »
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
ok..i don't know how many monkeys have kids (or grown kids for that matter) but i need a census... if you were in this situation and you only daughter (NOT your only child, mind you) were accused of killing
her
daughter (your only grandchild) would you do this (what the a' have done) i can honestly say NO! i love my child but she is not without faults as the rest of us. imho there has to be more to this 'cause i just don't understand??!
No, but there would be no way I would act like Cindy, I'm the type that likes to blend in, I don't like attention drawn to me, so in that respect no way. I would get a good lawyer, but I would do everything in my power to have her confess, in other words there would be nothing like this going on. There is more to this, and I want to know what it is
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Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 28, 2009, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on June 28, 2009, 04:25:53 PM
Fanny, who is that picture of?
I dunno....
holy comoley..howd ya get my baby picture????
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
ok..i don't know how many monkeys have kids (or grown kids for that matter) but i need a census... if you were in this situation and you only daughter (NOT your only child, mind you) were accused of killing
her
daughter (your only grandchild) would you do this (what the a' have done) i can honestly say NO! i love my child but she is not without faults as the rest of us. imho there has to be more to this 'cause i just don't understand??!
I can with absolute certainty state, O hell to the NO! I raised my children to be honest, respectable & accountable for their actions, by the grace of God I never had an ounce of "trouble" from either of them (well aside from them being messy & on a few occasions being a minor few minutes late coming home, seriously I kid you not). Had either of them done something this heinous to their own blood, my grandchild, Id be the first in line to make sure they faced their consequence to its fullest. Additionally, if either of mine displayed Casey's long-term behavioral issues I would have addressed them constructively & with the aid of professional help as soon as they surfaced, ignorant, selfish & shallow I am not.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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Quote from: Blink34 on June 28, 2009, 04:23:12 PM
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Quote from: Gypsy DD on June 28, 2009, 03:24:16 PM
Doesn't anyone else think it is strange that the little shorts were found in much better physical condition then Caylee's shirt..which was almost gone?
I think that Dom Casey was not just back there looking for Caylee..I think he was back there to place the shorts there..as in Cindy repeatedly saying someone could have placed Caylee there after Casey was in jail..and telling the LE that she had sent someone to check out that area. Also Hoover's video tape was not the only tape..remember he recorded over the other tape...and what did make Hoover come out of the woodwork once the body was found? I swear something else had to be going on out there that day..or prior to that day.
Excellent Observation DD, I believe that is why the warrant was served on 12/19 and all pink tees and white shorts of Caylee's were taken, I believe it was obvious if you carefully review Dr.G description of them. We know she could not have been wearing them based on the anthropology evidence. Who tossed them in?
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Blink..Dom Casey....or Lee? Who do you lean towards doing the tampering with a crime scene prior to LE finding the crime scene?
In my mind, the tshirt, left only the "collar", and stitching, the letters were found in layers of muck, IIRC, light colored fabric on the few bones of the clavicle and collarbone, led me to believe she was wearing it. The shorts, found away from the bag, were CLEARLY not in the same level of decomp as the almost cometely "vaporized" tshirt. My feeling is that someone put it there as a red herring to stage that it was not possible her remains were there the whole time. I also think its a possibility that Baez wanted those remains found before Casey was bonded out, and someone put them there then (ya know, YOO HOO, O passer By- I am really here even though I have been missed several times already, look a little girls pair of shorts right over there..)
Not trying to be glib, but its my opinion that's why they served the warrant again on 12/19 and took Caylees pink Tees and white shorts. I would expect there to be some testing and live labs at the Univ Tenn. for comparisons going on. Could it be just a fluke? I suppose it could, but in contrast to other descriptions, I found the wording very specific on Dr. G's part. Don't forget Casey's words about LE "Not finding her clothing." She said that to Tracy directly, I believe her.
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Oh right ..I agree with all that. I think that Dom Casey very well could have done that..he worked for Baez/Casey ..then he worked for the A family. But if he or someone else put them there before she was bonded out the first time..we are talking August......so they should be almost a destroyed as the shirt. I still think they were put ther in Nov around the last search of Tim's. And I think the pavers and the other house come into play there.....not sure of the signifance of the other house other then it is in a direct line to the body disposal site.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 28, 2009, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on June 28, 2009, 04:25:53 PM
Fanny, who is that picture of?
I dunno....
holy comoley..howd ya get my baby picture????
Fanny has left the Photobucket building. Just sayin'.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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June 28, 2009, 04:37:34 PM »
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on June 28, 2009, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
ok..i don't know how many monkeys have kids (or grown kids for that matter) but i need a census... if you were in this situation and you only daughter (NOT your only child, mind you) were accused of killing
her
daughter (your only grandchild) would you do this (what the a' have done) i can honestly say NO! i love my child but she is not without faults as the rest of us. imho there has to be more to this 'cause i just don't understand??!
No, but there would be no way I would act like Cindy, I'm the type that likes to blend in, I don't like attention drawn to me, so in that respect no way. I would get a good lawyer, but I would do everything in my power to have her confess, in other words there would be nothing like this going on. There is more to this, and I want to know what it is
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 28, 2009, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
ok..i don't know how many monkeys have kids (or grown kids for that matter) but i need a census... if you were in this situation and you only daughter (NOT your only child, mind you) were accused of killing
her
daughter (your only grandchild) would you do this (what the a' have done) i can honestly say NO! i love my child but she is not without faults as the rest of us. imho there has to be more to this 'cause i just don't understand??!
I would have just kept choking her the night of June 15th. I would have been in jail, and Caylee would still be alive......
i would've posted your bond miss Mae...
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Cyas in a bit, its fun in the sun time. Taking a dip in the pool & we're smoking a chicken & ribs for din tonight YUM!
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Quote from: Cappuccino on June 28, 2009, 04:42:15 PM
Cyas in a bit, its fun in the sun time. Taking a dip in the pool & we're smoking a chicken & ribs for din tonight YUM!
Holler when it's ready.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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June 28, 2009, 04:47:32 PM »
Quote from: Cappuccino on June 28, 2009, 04:36:37 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
ok..i don't know how many monkeys have kids (or grown kids for that matter) but i need a census... if you were in this situation and you only daughter (NOT your only child, mind you) were accused of killing
her
daughter (your only grandchild) would you do this (what the a' have done) i can honestly say NO! i love my child but she is not without faults as the rest of us. imho there has to be more to this 'cause i just don't understand??!
I can with absolute certainty state, O hell to the NO! I raised my children to be honest, respectable & accountable for their actions, by the grace of God I never had an ounce of "trouble" from either of them (well aside from them being messy & on a few occasions being a minor few minutes late coming home, seriously I kid you not). Had either of them done something this heinous to their own blood, my grandchild, Id be the first in line to make sure they faced their consequence to its fullest. Additionally, if either of mine displayed Casey's long-term behavioral issues I would have addressed them constructively & with the aid of professional help as soon as they surfaced, ignorant, selfish & shallow I am not.
im right wid' ja'...there has to be more imho. you raise your kids to to get ahead..not to get away with murder. there has to be some kind of cover-up somewhere for them (the a's) to stand so strong behind her.
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As far as Caylee's shorts being placed in the woods after the fact....who all was in the Ant house that could have been given/taken the shorts....
George, Cindy, Lee
, Mallory,
Dennis and Sherri Milstead,
D. Casey
,
Baez
,
Annie
, LKB, Conway... any of the bold names I would guess to be possible planters. I left out Hoover as I don't feel he would have videoed D. Casey if he was the one to do it. JMO
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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Quote from: Cappuccino on June 28, 2009, 04:42:15 PM
Cyas in a bit, its fun in the sun time. Taking a dip in the pool & we're smoking a chicken & ribs for din tonight YUM!
how do you smoke a chicken?? LOL
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June 28, 2009, 04:58:03 PM »
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:48:36 PM
As far as Caylee's shorts being placed in the woods after the fact....who all was in the Ant house that could have been given/taken the shorts....
George, Cindy, Lee
, Mallory,
Dennis and Sherri Milstead,
D. Casey
,
Baez
,
Annie
, LKB, Conway... any of the bold names I would guess to be possible planters. I left out Hoover as I don't feel he would have videoed D. Casey if he was the one to do it. JMO
J
oy Wray
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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June 28, 2009, 05:02:59 PM »
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:48:36 PM
As far as Caylee's shorts being placed in the woods after the fact....who all was in the Ant house that could have been given/taken the shorts....
George, Cindy, Lee
, Mallory,
Dennis and Sherri Milstead,
D. Casey
,
Baez
,
Annie
, LKB, Conway... any of the bold names I would guess to be possible planters. I left out Hoover as I don't feel he would have videoed D. Casey if he was the one to do it. JMO
J
oy Wray
, the Cowboy
HIGH FIVE!!!!
TUPELOHONEY!!!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony #140
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June 28, 2009, 05:04:59 PM »
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:48:36 PM
As far as Caylee's shorts being placed in the woods after the fact....who all was in the Ant house that could have been given/taken the shorts....
George, Cindy, Lee
, Mallory,
Dennis and Sherri Milstead,
D. Casey
,
Baez
,
Annie
, LKB, Conway... any of the bold names I would guess to be possible planters. I left out Hoover as I don't feel he would have videoed D. Casey if he was the one to do it. JMO
J
oy Wray
, the Cowboy
man if i had a bus throwin' under person it would be HER! if the a' s had only known what a wacky-pac she was they could have used her in the first place.
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Quote from: Cappuccino on June 28, 2009, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 28, 2009, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 03:49:22 PM
in a photo of casey's room they have a pic of a memorial for Trenton Duckett...i wonder if casey attended? i wonder how well she knows Trenton's father?
They are just using Trenton as a backdrop because the Ducketts are or were affiliated with KFN. JMO
Yes, Joshua, Trenton's dad still drinks their koolaid, very sad. ^^^clearly Cindy used that picture & others staged but once again she didnt think things thru how it would be perceived for what it was...it is very annoying how she actually thinks the general public are stupid - ya know what they say about people that point fingers
During the jailhouse visit that George had with Casey, I believe around August 3rd, he talks quite a bit about the Ducketts and an event that the Anthony's attended in Daytona. George carried on during that jailhouse visit about how the entire family, Casey included, was going to become involved in finding missing children, not just Caylee but all missing children. This was an interesting visit because during the same visist he apologized to Casey for being so hard on her. George did most of the talking during this visit. Casey said very little and made no indication while George was speaking of the Ducketts that she had any first hand knowledge of them.
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Quote from: AnnetteInMn on June 28, 2009, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: Cappuccino on June 28, 2009, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 28, 2009, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 03:49:22 PM
in a photo of casey's room they have a pic of a memorial for Trenton Duckett...i wonder if casey attended? i wonder how well she knows Trenton's father?
They are just using Trenton as a backdrop because the Ducketts are or were affiliated with KFN. JMO
Yes, Joshua, Trenton's dad still drinks their koolaid, very sad. ^^^clearly Cindy used that picture & others staged but once again she didnt think things thru how it would be perceived for what it was...it is very annoying how she actually thinks the general public are stupid - ya know what they say about people that point fingers
During the jailhouse visit that George had with Casey, I believe around August 3rd, he talks quite a bit about the Ducketts and an event that the Anthony's attended in Daytona. George carried on during that jailhouse visit about how the entire family, Casey included, was going to become involved in finding missing children, not just Caylee but all missing children. This was an interesting visit because during the same visist he apologized to Casey for being so hard on her. George did most of the talking during this visit. Casey said very little and made no indication while George was speaking of the Ducketts that she had any first hand knowledge of them.
Do you have a link for that?? I don't remember a transcript or video of that visit.
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June 28, 2009, 05:10:01 PM »
Quote from: mamacrazy30 on June 28, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:48:36 PM
As far as Caylee's shorts being placed in the woods after the fact....who all was in the Ant house that could have been given/taken the shorts....
George, Cindy, Lee
, Mallory,
Dennis and Sherri Milstead,
D. Casey
,
Baez
,
Annie
, LKB, Conway... any of the bold names I would guess to be possible planters. I left out Hoover as I don't feel he would have videoed D. Casey if he was the one to do it. JMO
J
oy Wray
, the Cowboy
man if i had a bus throwin' under person it would be HER! if the a' s had only known what a wacky-pac she was they could have used her in the first place.
Did she not take pictures of the woods???
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Quote from: Fanny Mae on June 28, 2009, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:58:03 PM
Quote from: tupelohoney on June 28, 2009, 04:48:36 PM
As far as Caylee's shorts being placed in the woods after the fact....who all was in the Ant house that could have been given/taken the shorts....
George, Cindy, Lee
, Mallory,
Dennis and Sherri Milstead,
D. Casey
,
Baez
,
Annie
, LKB, Conway... any of the bold names I would guess to be possible planters. I left out Hoover as I don't feel he would have videoed D. Casey if he was the one to do it. JMO
J
oy Wray
, the Cowboy
HIGH FIVE!!!!
TUPELOHONEY!!!
Now that's interesting.
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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