Caylee Marie Anthony #151 11/4/09 - 11/20/09

[mizjay]

Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

[darla]

Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

Will someone report that pic for me...can't report my own lol. Geesh didn't mean to go so big.

[trimmonthelake]

Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

 

[Fanny Mae]

Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

Can a smart Monkey bump up the picture of the syringe? My computer is so slow it would take me a week to find it. TIA

I'm not a smart monkey, but this might be it.   Oops, sorry, that's a turkey baster, I think the one malibu is using to try and "trap" ugLee.

Thank you CC, but I don't know why anyone with any brain cells would want to trap ugLee. lol

I think we have pretty much decided Malibu doesn't have any brain cells. 

No active brain cells is the prerequisite for being in or around the Anthony family. She has been elevated to top brainless member by wanting to be there as opposed to being born into the distorted gene pool. ( IMO of course)
                                                                         

And she absolutely lacks any self esteem. I don't think I have ever seen a pic of her and Lee where he is looking at her or paying her the least bit of attention. I have never seen him reach  for her hand, or touch her hair, or touched her elbow as they walk together. He never even acknowledges her in the slightest. JERK! And she is a worse jerk for putting up with it. JMO

[Fanny Mae]

Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

If I see somebody coming at me with that thing, I'm running!!!!! 

[no rose colored glasses]

Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?

[darla]

Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

[darla]

Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?

I would think so No rose, if she was handling it to put it back into the bag and then into the botle...she would not want to stick herself. JMO.

[Babybear]

Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

Yes, Darla, you are correct.  My dog, Charlie, takes Humilin N Insulin.  I buy the insulin at Walgreens and the syringes at WalMart.  I am never asked what kind of Insulin he takes.  I ask for Insulin syringes and no matter where I buy them, they have orange caps. 

[darla]

Geez DARLA, that's a lots insulin!!!!!!!!!!! Big needle too!!! ouchie    j/k

If I see somebody coming at me with that thing, I'm running!!!!! 

The needles are not that big lol. I use the ultra fine and they are hard to even see.

[no rose colored glasses]

Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?

I would think so No rose, if she was handling it to put it back into the bag and then into the botle...she would not want to stick herself. JMO.

True, just grasping at things 

[Babybear]

Just a thought, but would an individual that is not in the health care profession know to put the cap back on the needle? Guess what I'm getting at is if Casey either injected Caylee, or planted this, would she put the cap back on?

I would think so No rose, if she was handling it to put it back into the bag and then into the botle...she would not want to stick herself. JMO.

I thought that, with no particular reason and I might be wrong, that it is possible that a lab tech put that clear plastic cap on the syringe after testing so that no one would be stuck.

[Gizzie]

Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

See that? I thought insulin was insulin, but thank you for explaining that. I guess the thickness of the insulin would determine the needle gauge? I still think the syringe found is for muscle shots, like a tetanus shot, or a steroid shot...

[darla]

I am going through the BD catalog to see if I can find a match for the one in the bottle.

[SunnyinTX]

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/


Latent print on crime scene item?
November 10th, 2009

It appears OCSO may have lifted a latent print (or more) from one or more of the items found at the crime scene. On page 450 of the uber-document we have an Activity and Communication Log concerning evidence to be received and processed in by the FBI on March 5th that states:

    OCSO did lift latent prints & then finished proc’ing them so items will not be submitted for LPU as previously discussed.

When we look at the list of evidence processed in at the FBI lab on March 5th (page 451) we find the following items:

Q297-Q298 – swabs from bottom of gas container #1
Q299-Q300 – swabs from interior of oil pan
Q301-Q302 – swabs from bottom of gas container #2
Q303 – swab from clean wipes pack in backpack
Q304 – swab from comb handle in backpack
Q305-Q306 – swabs from pump of inflatable bed
Q307-Q308 – swabs from male portion of cord from flat iron (hair straightener)
Q309 – stone piece from crime scene
Q310 – piece of fabric from crime scene
Q311-Q313 – pieces of fabric from crime scene
Q314 – piece of fabric from crime scene
Q315-Q315.2 – pieces of fabric from crime scene
Q316-Q317 – pieces of tape from crime scene (non-Henkel duct tape)
Q318 – piece of tape from crime scene (non-Henkel duct tape)

Of course the latent prints wouldn’t come from any of the swabs, so we are left with the fairly good assumption that a print or prints were lifted from one or more of the items Q309 to Q318 retrieved from the crime scene.

It will be interesting to see who this print(s) belongs to.

Valhall.

[Gizzie]

Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

Yes, Darla, you are correct.  My dog, Charlie, takes Humilin N Insulin.  I buy the insulin at Walgreens and the syringes at WalMart.  I am never asked what kind of Insulin he takes.  I ask for Insulin syringes and no matter where I buy them, they have orange caps. 

And now I am wrong again. Maybe the different colors for the different manufacturers? Now I'm wondering why I saw a blue colored cap. Nothing to do with this case, but now that I'm thinking about it, it has me confuzzled. 

[Babybear]

Ok Gizzie I found what i was looking for...orange caps are for u-100 insulins only.

Yes, Darla, you are correct.  My dog, Charlie, takes Humilin N Insulin.  I buy the insulin at Walgreens and the syringes at WalMart.  I am never asked what kind of Insulin he takes.  I ask for Insulin syringes and no matter where I buy them, they have orange caps. 

I just gave Charlie his shot.  His syringes will hold 50 units.  I give him 18 units twice a day.

[SunnyinTX]

Sorry, if this has already been posted

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
The Trunk Liner – where some REAL Chloroform was found
November 9th, 2009

So, we’ve discussed the Gatorade bottle and syringe. I think the claim it’s a “smoking gun” is a fair measure of hyperbole. As stated in my write up on the Entomology results, I think the bugs are far more problematic for Casey than the syringe. That and the duct tape, of course. But another sticky area for Casey lies in the chemical analysis results for the trunk liner. That’s where REAL chloroform returns have to be explained. Let’s start on page 645 of the mega-document, where we have a summary of chemical analysis for the various trunk liner pieces tested:  Q22-Q25 and Q44-Q45.  All showed signs of chloroform in varying amounts and, unlike the syringe, all were reportable.  Q25 is the only piece that is logged as “trace” and it’s taken from the right side of the trunk – interestingly, the opposite side of the trunk from where the Q12.1 “death hair” was collected. All of the rest are truly worth discussing.

There’s probably some things we ought to discuss about chloroform before we go any further.  Chloroform is a VOC (volatile organic compound).  The main thing you need to understand about a VOC is that it has a high vapor pressure.  When a liquid has a high vapor pressure it simply means it wants to evaporate easier than a liquid with a low vapor pressure.  Think about the “vapor pressure” being inside the liquid and trying to break free, and it being greater than the air pressure on the top of the liquid trying to keep it in, and you’ll have it straight.  So a VOC, because of it’s high vapor pressure, will begin to evaporate at a much lower temperature than a liquid with a lower vapor pressure.  In fact, liquid chloroform starts evaporating as soon as you take the top off the container.  BUT, and this is important, once chloroform evaporates from a liquid to a gas (vapor) it has a density 4 times greater than air.  So it sinks.  That’s important in looking at the trunk liner.  If chloroform was spilled in the trunk, or if it was even evaporated into the trunk, it would sink to the bottom and reside at, in, near the liner.

The next thing you need to know is that the number one “killer” of chloroform is UV light…sunlight.  That is why chloroform is typically stored in dark bottles, to prevent UV degradation.  So if you have vaporized chloroform out in the sunlight, it won’t live long.  When chloroform breaks down in sunlight it creates phosgene, another not so pleasant gas.  It was used as a chemical agent in World War I.  The important point here is that chloroform, in a protected area (away from sunlight), can hang around as a vapor due to the fact that the vapor is heavier than air and will sink and kind of “hang out” at the lowest level.  Inside Casey’s trunk it was protected from UV light, and could continue to reside there, near the liner, in vapor form.

It’s probably worth noting here before we go on with the chloroform issue that every single liner sample (6 in total) was noted to have a “putrefactive odor” when it was pulled from it’s sample container. They all smelled like death – or rotting pizza, depending on what your last name is.

Q22 is the mother-lode for chloroform.  It is a piece of the spare tire cover where we have read accounts of the “basketball sized” stain from George, and possibly (though we can’t confirm) a child-shaped outline by at least one law enforcement agent.  I’m not even going to venture a guess at what the order of magnitude of concentration is on this test because I’ll tell you right now that’s above my pay grade. You have a couple of snippets of carpet in a 20 mL vial (there’s actually two sets of tests ran, one with 20 mL vial and one with 10 mL vial), and I’m not about to take that one on.  Suffice it to say, there’s a lot of chloroform here.  While I won’t guess, I would be willing to bet around a thousand times more than in the Gatorade bottle (in the ppm range, but possibly even higher for at the liner itself)…at trial we’ll see if I have to pay up. The below graph is from the 20 mL test.

This last one shows the stacked results from all the liner samples.

Valhall.

NOTE: graphs on website

[Gizzie]

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/


Latent print on crime scene item?
November 10th, 2009

It appears OCSO may have lifted a latent print (or more) from one or more of the items found at the crime scene. On page 450 of the uber-document we have an Activity and Communication Log concerning evidence to be received and processed in by the FBI on March 5th that states:

    OCSO did lift latent prints & then finished proc’ing them so items will not be submitted for LPU as previously discussed.

When we look at the list of evidence processed in at the FBI lab on March 5th (page 451) we find the following items:

Q297-Q298 – swabs from bottom of gas container #1
Q299-Q300 – swabs from interior of oil pan
Q301-Q302 – swabs from bottom of gas container #2
Q303 – swab from clean wipes pack in backpack
Q304 – swab from comb handle in backpack
Q305-Q306 – swabs from pump of inflatable bed
Q307-Q308 – swabs from male portion of cord from flat iron (hair straightener)
Q309 – stone piece from crime scene
Q310 – piece of fabric from crime scene
Q311-Q313 – pieces of fabric from crime scene
Q314 – piece of fabric from crime scene
Q315-Q315.2 – pieces of fabric from crime scene
Q316-Q317 – pieces of tape from crime scene (non-Henkel duct tape)
Q318 – piece of tape from crime scene (non-Henkel duct tape)

Of course the latent prints wouldn’t come from any of the swabs, so we are left with the fairly good assumption that a print or prints were lifted from one or more of the items Q309 to Q318 retrieved from the crime scene.

It will be interesting to see who this print(s) belongs to.

Valhall.

  Ooo, this could be good, very good!

[no rose colored glasses]

 Thanks Sunny