Lively Case Discussion #579 1/28 - 2/2/2007

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
AweMainta
http://www.awemainta.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[msmarple]

Hi Monkeys (and good morning Leslie, thank you for the papers).

I am behind; this is a flyby but I just spotted this in this a.m.'s Atlanta Journal Constitution, an AP story. Someone probably has posted it, but in case ...

'Dr. Phil' Lawyer Denies Suit Charges
LOS ANGELES — Two brothers who sued the "Dr. Phil" show for airing a segment about their roles as former suspects in the disappearance of an Alabama teen in Aruba should not be entitled to punitive damages, an attorney for the show said.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe of Aruba filed the defamation suit in December seeking unspecified damages against talk show host Phillip McGraw, CBS Television Distribution Group and private investigator Jamie Skeeters.

The lawsuit alleges the show altered portions of a secretly recorded conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and Skeeters to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

William Haggerty, an attorney for McGraw and CBS, said in court papers filed Friday in Los Angeles that widespread news reports of the brothers' arrest "mitigate any damages allegedly suffered by them and bars or reduces their right to recover any damages."

Haggerty also denied his clients intentionally misrepresented any fact to the brothers or acted with malicious intent.

An after-hours telephone message left Monday for the attorney representing the brothers was not immediately returned.

Holloway was 18 when she disappeared May 30, 2005, while on a trip to Aruba with classmates from her Alabama high school. She was last seen getting into a car with the brothers and their friend, Joran van der Sloot.

Police spent months searching for the missing teen, but the case did not lead to a criminal trial in Aruba. The brothers have not been charged.

A similar lawsuit filed by Holloway's family against van der Sloot was thrown out this summer.

[msmarple]

http://www.amigoe.com/english/ 01/30/2007:

Port of Oranjestad very busy, but fewer passengers that visit Aruba.
Central Bank:  ‘More cruise ships; fewer cruise tourists’  

ORANJESTAD – Despite the fact that in November of 2006, almost 30 percent more cruise ships call in at the port of Aruba, the cruise passengers dropped with 1.8 percent, stated the Central Bank of Aruba (CBA) in her monthly report on November.  

The number of sojourns and their number of nights spent dropped with respectively 7.7 and 5.7 percent in the first 10 months of 2006, while the numbers for September of that same year increased with respectively 0.9 and 0.1 percent, and dropped in October with respectively 3.1 and 4.4 percent.  

The figures for November 2006 were not available yet when CBA’s monthly report was drawn up, neither were the average room occupancy of the hotels.  

The price index for the family consumption was 1.9 percent higher in November than same month in 2005.  The average inflation tempo was 3.7 percent on a yearly basis.  

The money quantity increased with 17 million florins (0.7 percent) in November 2006. This is attributed to an increase in foreign exchange of 100.5 million florins and a decrease of the net domestic active of 83.5 million florins.

The returns on the issuing of bond on the international capital market, 91.4 million florins, and the Dutch development aid of 29.3 million florins.  The net foreign active was 718 million florins, 13.5 percent higher that in November of 2005.

The decrease of the net domestic active was caused by a 91.6 million florins drop in the progresses of the banking sector on the public sector.  Banking transactions not related to credit loans decreased with 9.8 million florins.  The company loans increased with 1.3 percent, consumer credits with 0.5 percent, and mortgages with 0.3 percent.

[Cat]

Is because of the case or the ships being full of sick noro virus people?I have quite a few political statements,but you will hear them here.Cat

[the big hammer]

Lots of Questions

Lala'sMom writes: "...Remember Hammer's question..."How do you know she is dead?"

Thanks for remembering.  How are all you monkeys?

This entire case is a travesty, and the viewing public are left with "evidence" that criminals walk the streets of Aruba and the Netherlands unpunished, unprosecuted.  It's perfectly acceptable behavior to rape and murder an American teenaged girl.  Perfectly fine.

Since the question above, the evidence of criminality, unprosecuted, is clear and undeniable.

The Kalpoe brothers, each and individually, committed the crime of PERJURY, by submitting and signing, under the advice of competent counsel INTENTIONALLY FALSE WITNESS TESTIMONY and the physical evidence are the pv's which they signed.  This refers to the pv's submitetd and signed detailing the false Holiday Inn drop off story.

On the strength of these INTENTIONALLY FALSE statements and with related statements of the criminal Joran van der Sloot, 2 innocent men were falsely arrested and charged with murder.

Accordingly, the Kalpoe's should be arrested and convicted of the crime of Perjury.  And further, based on their criminal conduct, could easily be prosecuted for the separate and related crimes of interferring with a homicide investigation, obstruction of justice and contempt of court.

These are not alleged crimes:  these are crimes for which there is EVIDENCE.
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[nonesuche]

Well said as always Hammer, we have missed you !!!

I can't name the source but it does appear that Dr Phil's camp doesn't feel the loss of Jamie will impact this case which is good news. I agree with Klaas and with Hammer, the detailing of the K brother's own statements within this case will likely do them in and rightfully so.

Justins I agree the politics shouldn't be on this thread but please understand that lately and due to the various allegiances regarding the war, some of the posts and slams have gotten a bit extreme. We need to remember that despite our personal feelings that the highest office in our country still deserves a measure of respect. It's a job I would not wish to have either, a very tough one.

Plus I want to be able to see Klaas' cartoons too, this last one was a hoot once again Klaas !  

[nonesuche]

Has Peaches checked in today? Call-out to Peaches, we miss you !! Hope all is well !

[klaasend]

GOODMORNING ALL!

HAMMER - Always great to see you!

PLEASE, I'm begging....let's keep our political differences in the Political Forum where they belong.  

[klaasend]

I'm going to move all political comments made last night and this morning to a thread in the Political Forum where they belong.

[2NJSons_Mom]

I'm going to move all political comments made last night and this morning to a thread in the Political Forum where they belong.

Great idea...thank you.

[crazybabyborg]

GOODMORNING ALL!

HAMMER - Always great to see you!

PLEASE, I'm begging....let's keep our political differences in the Political Forum where they belong.  

Morning Klaas!

Guilty. But you don't have to beg, you can ask me anything, and it's yours!  

I'm so glad that you straightened me out on the news yesterday. Until you posted, I didn't realize that H/T had already filed before they requested that their case be related to the Phil & Co. one.

[Peaches]

Has Peaches checked in today? Call-out to Peaches, we miss you !! Hope all is well !

I'm out here.  Just working away..........

[klaasend]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

Aruban Tourism … Different Month … Same Results … Tourism Down Again for 2006 … When will it End?

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/01/30/aruban-tourism-different-month-same-results-tourism-down-again/

[justinsmama]

I'm going to move all political comments made last night and this morning to a thread in the Political Forum where they belong.

THANK YOU!

Hey ya, Peaches! How are ya?

[msmarple]

I'm going to move all political comments made last night and this morning to a thread in the Political Forum where they belong.

Thank you klaas.

[Nut44x4]

OFF TOPIC......I am sure I will catch hell for this......I think, my personal opinion, of course, that Barbaro deserves a front page post!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz5xzK4q6Xw
Get your tissues..........

[Nut44x4]

OFF TOPIC......I am sure I will catch hell for this......I think, my personal opinion, of course, that Barbaro deserves a front page post!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz5xzK4q6Xw
Get your tissues..........

GIVE THIS BEAUTIFUL ANIMAL A FRONT PAGE POST!!!!

[Cat]

My political staTEMENT,JORAN DID IT.He had help.Natalee could have been a great doctor who could have done great things.The sex wasn't worth a young woman's life.I would have turned in my son,if he had done this.But I would and do not allow this behavior from my sons.Cat

[klaasend]

OFF TOPIC......I am sure I will catch hell for this......I think, my personal opinion, of course, that Barbaro deserves a front page post!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz5xzK4q6Xw
Get your tissues..........

Hi Nut - I'll pass along the suggestion to Red..good idea!

[friend of monkeys]

I am OFF TOPIC and out of a MOTHERBOARD!

Will keep Natalee in my prayers
as well as all the monkeys who ahve put in so much time to try to find her and those responsible for her disappearance.

KLASS______

Keep up the great work!