Sandra Cantu #2 4/09/09 - 4/15/09

[Rob]

If Tracygirl were the arrested party then how is she posting?     Must be another stupid Topix or WS rumor....I love being a Monkey!!!

WS rumor.  Someone over yonder needs to be slapped down and timed out for a week.  IMO

Yes, I agree 

Or maybe read a book on how to investigate a crime??? I think I made a comment yesterday about WS, someone had posted something about this woman may have been helping Sandra, I said before we make her out to be a hero, lets find out of she is a murder. Maybe that upset someone. wouldn't be the first time I upset someone and won't be the last. This is over though. I appreciate you all know I had nothing to do with it but I hope to be responsible to help bring down the child porn ring  in this town.
People are applauding and saying thank you to this detective, yes they solved the crime, so did we. Thankfully it was an easy one,kwim?  I will say thank you once the pedophiles in my town are locked  up and my children are truly safe. Lets drop this though, I am sitting here at my home ready to boil eggs so my children can color them. I am not in a jail cell nor do I know anyone involved although I have seen them certain places in town. So lets move on and again thank you. 

you probably don't know this but WS supports pedophiles and had one as an admin. So don't worry what any of those freaks say.

anyone with a shred of decency left that dump in the dust.

[no rose colored glasses]

whoaaaa...they dont expect any other arrests in this case!

and that's that! cases concluded according to the news conference.

shocking. Acted alone apparently with no outside help or accomplices.

this ratchets up the motive here. And the police better be right.

what could the motive now be?

female sexual predator? - doesn't seem likely from what I've read - but who knows?

jealousy? - who knows?

just killed to see what it was like? who knows?

she's crazy? who knows?

I'm perplexed why this all happened and she has a child of her own. Seems to me her own child would be her target not a neighborhood child. Children are often killed by their own parent and we all know that the mother is sometimes responsible.

I just think this is an odd explanation -female kills neighborhood girl for no apparent reason. WTH? 


 

Is it possible that the police might put out a misleading statement in order to lull other suspects into believing that they are no longer under suspicion??

I was wondering that as well, since I have no knowledge of how LE works, I'm hoping someone on here who does will explain this. I am having a very hard time understanding this, since several months prior Melissa was questioned in the drugging of a little girl in the mobile park. I am also wondering in the beginning of this case when LE was saying a runaway, I felt maybe they were saying that for a purpose, and they by no means thought that. 

[Maven]

The applause at the end of the news conference for the Sgt. was sweet.
He looks wiped out.


The farm workers who found Sandra refused any reward.
Also, a bright moment today.

yes it was

yes it really was 

I am still just shocked it was a woman who apparently acted alone, I just can't understand this, her daughter played with Sandra how terrible 

I am very glad that they have the person responsible in custody.

[Dolce]

you probably don't know this but WS supports pedophiles and had one as an admin. So don't worry what any of those freaks say.

anyone with a shred of decency left that dump in the dust.

There is another pedophile as an admin there?  I read they banned Windchime, was not aware there were more!  WS and Topix both are icky IMO - nothing but a rumor mill full of nuts.

[no rose colored glasses]

This is beyond strange, there has to be some reason for this, at least I would think so 

very end of conference he said something like I have significant (evidence?? / statements??) that I can't (share?? / comment??) on.

wonder what that was???
[/quote]I didn't hear that, I was having a problem hearing the questions, and I missed that. I just feel there is more here, but of course I could be wrong.

[Tamikosmom]

whoaaaa...they dont expect any other arrests in this case!

and that's that! cases concluded according to the news conference.

shocking. Acted alone apparently with no outside help or accomplices.

this ratchets up the motive here. And the police better be right.

what could the motive now be?

female sexual predator? - doesn't seem likely from what I've read - but who knows?

jealousy? - who knows?

just killed to see what it was like? who knows?

she's crazy? who knows?

I'm perplexed why this all happened and she has a child of her own. Seems to me her own child would be her target not a neighborhood child. Children are often killed by their own parent and we all know that the mother is sometimes responsible.

I just think this is an odd explanation -female kills neighborhood girl for no apparent reason. WTH? 


 

Is it possible that the police might put out a misleading statement in order to lull other suspects into believing that they are no longer under suspicion??

Something is hinky.

Melissa's actions may have caused Sandra's death but ... as the acticle states the implications are far reaching.

Janet

+++++


Apr 11, 2009 5:30 am US/Pacific

Arrest Made In Calif. Girl's Kidnapping, Murder

However, Thiessen would not elaborate on the cause of Sandra's death nor the motive in the case.

"This is a terrible terbible tragedy," Thiessen added. "An act against a child that has wide-reaching implications."

http://cbs2.com/national/murder.kidnapping.arrest.2.982540.html

[A_News_Junkie_Monkey]

whoaaaa...they dont expect any other arrests in this case!

and that's that! cases concluded according to the news conference.

shocking. Acted alone apparently with no outside help or accomplices.

this ratchets up the motive here. And the police better be right.

what could the motive now be?

female sexual predator? - doesn't seem likely from what I've read - but who knows?

jealousy? - who knows?

just killed to see what it was like? who knows?

she's crazy? who knows?

I'm perplexed why this all happened and she has a child of her own. Seems to me her own child would be her target not a neighborhood child. Children are often killed by their own parent and we all know that the mother is sometimes responsible.

I just think this is an odd explanation -female kills neighborhood girl for no apparent reason. WTH? 


 

it would be highly unusual for this to be due to sexual assault. now in terms of using poisons and drugs, those are generally 'thought' to be females instruments of choice, particularly for repeat killers.

it looks like this was a crime of 'convenience' thus far as opposed to being planned ahead of time and her actions and apparent thought processes indicate a high level of disorganization. with the report of her having drugged another child first who survived it seems whatever was driving her was escalating, and her hospitalization seems to indicate some sort of self harming, but im puzzled as to why shed be released if that were the case.

I am not as well versed on this case as you guys, but I am leaning toward premeditated.  I guess one big reason is to me it seems someone called her toward them, mid skip.  I could be making an assumption from that video, but this just seems dark and planned and I also think they are being hush, hush to make the others involved feel safe. 
I will say, as frustrating as it is that they are not like Fl - they did an excellent job in investigating it, IMHO.  Time will tell - and I hate waiting, but alas - wait we shall.

[A_News_Junkie_Monkey]

Tamikoson (sp?) posted:
"This is a terrible terbible tragedy," Thiessen added. "An act against a child that has wide-reaching implications."

http://cbs2.com/national/murder.kidnapping.arrest.2.982540.html

Telling words, IMHO.

[Rob]

you probably don't know this but WS supports pedophiles and had one as an admin. So don't worry what any of those freaks say.

anyone with a shred of decency left that dump in the dust.

There is another pedophile as an admin there?  I read they banned Windchime, was not aware there were more!  WS and Topix both are icky IMO - nothing but a rumor mill full of nuts.

Dolce thats who I'm referencing here. It was what happened after Princess exposed her that is indicative of WS's over-all attitude. This topic doesn't really belong here and can be read at BeaconHell. Sorry for the O/T everyone.

btw - Littleone said you looked lovely the other day. 

[peanut]

whoaaaa...they dont expect any other arrests in this case!

and that's that! cases concluded according to the news conference.

shocking. Acted alone apparently with no outside help or accomplices.

this ratchets up the motive here. And the police better be right.

what could the motive now be?

female sexual predator? - doesn't seem likely from what I've read - but who knows?

jealousy? - who knows?

just killed to see what it was like? who knows?

she's crazy? who knows?

I'm perplexed why this all happened and she has a child of her own. Seems to me her own child would be her target not a neighborhood child. Children are often killed by their own parent and we all know that the mother is sometimes responsible.

I just think this is an odd explanation -female kills neighborhood girl for no apparent reason. WTH? 


 

it would be highly unusual for this to be due to sexual assault. now in terms of using poisons and drugs, those are generally 'thought' to be females instruments of choice, particularly for repeat killers.

it looks like this was a crime of 'convenience' thus far as opposed to being planned ahead of time and her actions and apparent thought processes indicate a high level of disorganization. with the report of her having drugged another child first who survived it seems whatever was driving her was escalating, and her hospitalization seems to indicate some sort of self harming, but im puzzled as to why shed be released if that were the case.

I am not as well versed on this case as you guys, but I am leaning toward premeditated.  I guess one big reason is to me it seems someone called her toward them, mid skip.  I could be making an assumption from that video, but this just seems dark and planned and I also think they are being hush, hush to make the others involved feel safe. 
I will say, as frustrating as it is that they are not like Fl - they did an excellent job in investigating it, IMHO.  Time will tell - and I hate waiting, but alas - wait we shall.

i should have been a bit clearer i guess. yes i do believe it was premeditated, intent can be formed in minutes or even seconds. what i was trying to say was that it was not an elaborate plan she came up with some time ago and carefully implemented. she saw an opportunity and immediately acted upon it...its still 'premeditated' but not 'pre planned'.

[Rob]

This is beyond strange, there has to be some reason for this, at least I would think so 

very end of conference he said something like I have significant (evidence?? / statements??) that I can't (share?? / comment??) on.

wonder what that was???

I didn't hear that, I was having a problem hearing the questions, and I missed that. I just feel there is more here, but of course I could be wrong.
[/quote]

didn't hear the question either - just the response and I paraphrased what he said... just odd... very odd.

[Tracygirl]

Klaas - do you think we can delete the posts regarding Tracygirl?  I would be highly offended if I logged on here to see I was being accused of being someone just arrested for such a horrible crime.  Just a thought.

I was wondering about that also. Also what does procurement mean?

Are you kidding me??? I didn't see this post. Does someone believe I had something to do with this? WTH? and yes I am offended.

NO and I tried to delete all references. Please do not be offended.

Tracygirl .... I AM SO sorry.... I read speculation on another site and just jumped right over here to see if any Monkeys had heard that. I am terribly sorry for that posting and you have every right to be offended FWIW... no one thought here that info was accurate. If you would like to discuss this further my throw away addy is is leslee89@gmail ( It's a throwaway mods).

Leslie thank you, it is over, we're good, lets move on.

Moving on.....Someone said they don't understand why an awared is needed. Neither do I? I can't imagine taking money for uncovering crime. I would give it to charity or to the family.

There is more to this, I am not convinced she acted alone or for her own reasons. I believe this has to do with the child porn.

One point I want to make, why was the community not warned that a 7 year old girl was reportedly drugged  while with this person? Why no charges against her? I am sure they could have pinned down she did it. This is what I mean, things are which are not acted on properly. 

[Izzy58]

I am so mad! I missed the whole press conference due to my 33 yr old stepdaughter calling me with an argument with her and her sister! geeze!  Anyway, I still think there is at least another person involved if not more.  And I also think Melissa will break down and confess since she already seems to be missing a few brain cells.

[oldiebutgoodie]

Anyone who knows people in the Tracy area can look them up to see if they are on California's sex offender registry here:  http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/.

I'd like to know who this suspect's most recent boyfriends are and if any of their names are on the list.

[Fanny Mae]

If Tracygirl were the arrested party then how is she posting?     Must be another stupid Topix or WS rumor....I love being a Monkey!!!

WS rumor.  Someone over yonder needs to be slapped down and timed out for a week.  IMO

Yes, I agree 

Or maybe read a book on how to investigate a crime??? I think I made a comment yesterday about WS, someone had posted something about this woman may have been helping Sandra, I said before we make her out to be a hero, lets find out of she is a murder. Maybe that upset someone. wouldn't be the first time I upset someone and won't be the last. This is over though. I appreciate you all know I had nothing to do with it but I hope to be responsible to help bring down the child porn ring  in this town.
People are applauding and saying thank you to this detective, yes they solved the crime, so did we. Thankfully it was an easy one,kwim?  I will say thank you once the pedophiles in my town are locked  up and my children are truly safe. Lets drop this though, I am sitting here at my home ready to boil eggs so my children can color them. I am not in a jail cell nor do I know anyone involved although I have seen them certain places in town. So lets move on and again thank you. 

Tracygirl, I have mostly just read along here, but I just wanted to say how gracious you have been about this, probably much more that I could have been. You have brought much information and insight to this thread, and I was glad that someone local stepped forward, and brave enough to post.

I can understand how you feel about your children and the child porn situation in your town. My children are much older but I understand how worried you are. I hope your police department does a total cleanup of these creeps.

Mostly I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate you.

(((Hugs)))

[Dolce]

Dolce thats who I'm referencing here. It was what happened after Princess exposed her that is indicative of WS's over-all attitude. This topic doesn't really belong here and can be read at BeaconHell. Sorry for the O/T everyone.

btw - Littleone said you looked lovely the other day. 

Thank you for the clarification Rob.  Please tell Littleone that I said thank you and hope you both are doing well. 

[k9ohana]

Interviewing the family now live on news 10 online

[Rob]

Ok.. here's the way I see what happened.

Melissa Huckaby drives herself to the police station last night around 11. Is questioned and at some point there is enough of a statement (including suitcase in police custody) to arrest her for the murder of Sandra Cantu.

At what point did the police go from far -reaching implications to no other arrests anticipated? How did that occur?

What did she say that changed everything? I'm totally confused here.

[Wyks]

whoaaaa...they dont expect any other arrests in this case!

and that's that! cases concluded according to the news conference.

shocking. Acted alone apparently with no outside help or accomplices.

this ratchets up the motive here. And the police better be right.

what could the motive now be?

female sexual predator? - doesn't seem likely from what I've read - but who knows?

jealousy? - who knows?

just killed to see what it was like? who knows?

she's crazy? who knows?

I'm perplexed why this all happened and she has a child of her own. Seems to me her own child would be her target not a neighborhood child. Children are often killed by their own parent and we all know that the mother is sometimes responsible.

I just think this is an odd explanation -female kills neighborhood girl for no apparent reason. WTH? 

I agree Rob. 

Could LE saying they dont expect any other arrests in this case, be an attempt at soothing the locals into a false sense of 'ok, everythings taken care of now, we can all relax'..... while at the same time LE may have NO CLUE yet where else to turn, just not sure yet who all else may be involved, just not ready yet to make those further arrests, or not sure yet how to tie what they may know together with this case. 

So let's just put a bandaid on this case, and call it closed.  Locals can relax and put their fears and vigilante justice feelings on a back burner.  LE has it all under control.  (and I was born at night, but it wasn't last night, or even the night before).

In essence... *if* this is what LE is doing in this case, it's an insult to the family, the locals, and crime victims everywhere. 

And for what?  cover your a$$.  soothe the ruffled feelings.  lets get things back to 'normal'. IMO.

 

[A_News_Junkie_Monkey]

Ok.. here's the way I see what happened.

Melissa Huckaby drives herself to the police station last night around 11. Is questioned and at some point there is enough of a statement (including suitcase in police custody) to arrest her for the murder of Sandra Cantu.

At what point did the police go from far -reaching implications to no other arrests anticipated? How did that occur?

What did she say that changed everything? I'm totally confused here.

Rob,
To me it seems to be their MO - they have held everything so close to the vest and I think they want the media attention to die down so they can continue their job.  That many search warrents - just seems if they are not related, they are on to something and for the people of Tracy I hope it is they have a number on the porn ring.