Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #79

[NO1ZMONKEY]

What is bothering me most is the fact they may not come up with a cause of death.  With Dr G saying what she did about no trauma to the bones, she has to believe the little girl may have been poisoned.  If she was suffocated, you cannot prove this with the remains, can you???

No, asphyxiation can only be found in the lungs *broken blood vessels* and in the eyes.

This is one of the things that bother me the most, in thinking about the length of time before 911 was called.  Plenty of time to ensure that vital organs would no longer be there to help fix the cause of death.  This smacks of *someone* smarter than Casey seems to be, helping dispose of Caylee's body.  In a weird sense, wouldn't matter where or how the body was disposed, cuz the cause of death would be hard to be determined.  But then, going with that thought, it's hard to explain why identifying things were included with Caylee body's.  Mind boggling at best.  It's as if part of it was thought out, part of it wasn't.  And that kind of thinking leads me back to Casey acting alone. 

   

I think she is stunned that the body had not been found. I figure she thought it would be found in due course, but as time went on she got stronger with the realization that she might never be found.  She was probably perplexed and amused that the body was right down the street, how in the world was she not found.  Maybe she even thought a garbage pickup crew threw the bag in the back of a truck and whisked her to the dump.  This is why I think Cindy went on a mission to drive Tim out because they all knew the body was somewhere close.

RUSS ur on it!! thats why i think they drove out tim miller and leonard padilla. I think Tim Miller is going to be a wonderful credible character witness on behalf of the prosecution. THANK GOD FOR HIM. He has seen so many families *900* with missing children, and he felt akward at there home..thats interesting

She turned red in jail and needed a sedative when it was said a body was found near the home on the 11th.  I think everything crumbled at that point.  She turned red because of embarrassment, since I think she may run around in a woman' body but she is merely a child and childlike in her brain.  She is more worried about how her family will react.  This is why after notification she turned down the visit from her family clergy and ran right to the man in her life now, Baez.

RUSS ur on it!! thats why i think they drove out tim miller and leonard padilla. I think Tim Miller is going to be a wonderful credible character witness on behalf of the prosecution. THANK GOD FOR HIM. He has seen so many families *900* with missing children, and he felt akward at there home..thats interesting. And yes she is more interested in what her family is going to say, " i know my mom will never forgive me, and ill never forgive myself, because there is that possibility that i may never see my daughter again:"

[cherjers]

Okay everyone! Now that we know for a fact where Casey dumped Caylee's body; what in the hell was she doing in all those remote locations we tracked on all the cellphone pings maps!!! Does anyone have any ideas of what she was doing out there in the middle of the night? Looking for alternate dump spots? Meeting clients? Drug transactions? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT??????!!!!!! 

  ALL OF THE ABOVE

[stayhomemommy]

Is everyone getting the vibes I am getting from the Conway statement?  It seems to me that the Anthonys are now waiting for the truth and they do not care which direction it goes.  If it is their daughter who did this, so be it.  I hope this is their reaction.  They need the truth, not lies.  I am sure that the recognition that their little granddaughter was tossed in a trash bag and then into the woods for bugs and animals to tear at is haunting to them.  They should want the person who did this punished, even if it is their own daughter, and I hope they do. 

Mornig Hudd. I didn't get that vibe, but I hope you're right. What do you think makes you get the vibe?

[no rose colored glasses]

Mioyshi...I also would like to say how sorry I am. I would imagine in situations like this a family would want to do anything possible to find their loved one. I can just imagine how many people saying they are wanting to help, but are frauds taking advantage of families in these situations.

[NO1ZMONKEY]

Mommy~

I have wondered numerous times if Casey wasn't close to taking and Baez has kept her from it.  Most recently being after the last arrest when detectives gave her the option of turning right or left.  She called Baez, they took her to jail.  And not to forget about Casey asking to see George alone.  I'm wondering if she wasnt' going to spill to him?  I don't know, but I think you're right on about her loving her own life and not wanting to get the DP.   Everyone keeps talking about Baez being such a lousy lawyer but so far he's managed to keep her from talking

You know, that is an excellent point. Even the A's attorneys haven't been able to keep them from talking, but Casey isn't even talking to her family since intimately. So, hummmm....interesting. I definitely agree he has her thinking she will get off. I think he is so egotistical that he is telling her "he's got it covered" or such.

The defense will NOT be mythical nannies and sinister dark plots to frame Casey.  It can't be and it won't be.  He can say anything he wants at this point to foster doubt in the public but he will have a problem with reasonable doubt in a trial.

Baez said "We will all understand in his opening statement".  His defense, IF it goes to trial, will be more puritanical and will be to lessen the sentencing phase.   No way in hell he uses the defense involving fabled make believe characters that the only person that can attest to is his client.  No way he lets her take the stand.

He is going to attempt to plea out, but not until he has milked this for every ounce of publicity he can.  I just hope the prosecution doesn't accept any plea.  I want this to go to trial.

Do you really think he will attempt to plea out? I don't see it; but perhaps. They all keep saying, "Oh, it will make sense when [such and such happens]." We all know that is just a plot to put-off coming up with a working theory that will match with the evidence--which they don't know all of yet, so Baez has to wait to come-up with something to spin.

He won't have a chance in court with all the evidence, remembering that they had enough for murder 1 prior to the body being even found.  No way he takes this to court with mythical nannies and fantastical stories of mayhem and intrigue from sinister characters within Casey's imagination.  I think he milks this and then attempts to plea out.

Russ is on a roll. you are absolutely 1000% right, they are going to be laughed out of court. I can see them buckling under cross defense right now!!

[cherjers]

He is enjoying all the media sensationalism!!!!!!

I agree. I also tend to think he actually has himself fooled into thinking he is going to win this case and become the newest host on truTV or such...blech!

Even if he doesn't win, he will be famous.  I don't think he will ever let Casey talk if he is smart and I think he is a smart defense attorney.

I think if he fails big-time, he will be famous in a bad light--Just my opinion.

  He will be famouse allright-evryone will say  DONT GO TO JOSE-becuse he is going to lose big time-he should have cute a deal

[stayhomemommy]

He is enjoying all the media sensationalism!!!!!!

I agree. I also tend to think he actually has himself fooled into thinking he is going to win this case and become the newest host on truTV or such...blech!

Even if he doesn't win, he will be famous.  I don't think he will ever let Casey talk if he is smart and I think he is a smart defense attorney.

I think if he fails big-time, he will be famous in a bad light--Just my opinion.

  He will be famouse allright-evryone will say  DONT GO TO JOSE-becuse he is going to lose big time-he should have cute a deal

And then he'll just be another person whose life was ruined by Casey.

[Wyks]

Okay everyone! Now that we know for a fact where Casey dumped Caylee's body; what in the hell was she doing in all those remote locations we tracked on all the cellphone pings maps!!! Does anyone have any ideas of what she was doing out there in the middle of the night? Looking for alternate dump spots? Meeting clients? Drug transactions? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT??????!!!!!! 

Sorry but I am still of the opinion that ONLY a former policeman could help KC blur this whole situation by sending them all over the place to place pings that they know will be checked out.  I still believe that George helped her by placing Caylee's body in those woods and then sending KC all over the place with her cell phone planting pings. Only a former policeman could advise someone in a horrible situation about what to do to plant reasonable doubt.

Also last night Greta played a jail house visit from the parents to KC. It was really telling to me.  KC was crying and saying when Caylee came home she was going to devote all her time to her.  She also said that Caylee was her baby but she was also Cindys, George and Lee's baby also and all of them would divide their time with Caylee and take care of her so she would never be without someone to be with.  I find this very telling that she is telling them it was their fault she had no help from them taking care of Caylee.  She is saying if they had helped care for Caylee she wouldn't be in this mess right now.  So in a way she is telling them THEY caused what happened to Caylee.

I can well believe that Casey is blaming everyone in this world and the next for Caylee's death.  She appears to have never really taken responsibility for her actions.

However, I think that if George had any hand in hiding Caylee's body, she would never have been found.  Look at Drew Peterson....  Cops know where to hide a body, and she would not have been just alongside the road in a bag.  That smacks or the lazy so-and-so princess girl who didn't want to get messy and dirty and bug-bitten.  She hauled that bag just to the fringes of the woods and left it there.

Unless.....maybe someone like George or Lee just got fed up with Cindy's blindness when it came to Casey and helped justice along by putting Caylee's body where she was sure to be found.

With all the activity in the area by media and tourists and all the awareness of their vehicles and their persons, I doubt they would have chanced doing anything.

Exactly.  This house has been watched from the beginning if not by LE, by many, many monkeys and monkeylikes.  How on earth did they do anything without someone noticing??

I don't think the A's were watched all that carefully in the beginning tho.  Remember even with the mobile cam on the house, George stormed out and 'went for a walk' to clear his head or some such, and Lee went after him.  Not so sure that George was followed by LE then, or any other time he left the house.  And then another time, Cindy supposedly went out of town to hand out flyers.  Not so sure that she actually went out of town or was even followed when she left the house either.  Lee was 'missing in action' so to speak for quite some time.  Wonder if anyone was watching him during that whole time?  Then there's Mallory, doubt that LE has been watching her at all.  Plus the fact that it seems the A's have surrounded themselves with unsavory-type folks, who may 'do a favor' in a heartbeat.   

It just seems very very odd that Caylee's body would surface so very close to home, and the defense is jumping all over that.  In a sense, this almost seems planned out to confuse, mislead, throw a wrench into everything.  *If you cannot convince them, confuse them* 

Could Casey or the A's have folks willing to move Caylee's body around for them?  Dunno.  I suppose it's a possibility. 

[ShariVari]

Remember that Cindy said Caylee's father is Eric N..

Found this collage on another forum, it's of Eric and Caylee.  Interesting to say the least. 

Wow wykes. he is a dead ringer to me in my book of possible sperm donors....the nose is dead on

who's that girl in the upper right corner?  Not Casey or Caylee...

[stayhomemommy]

Let's talk about the A's lives from this point forward. They're too young to retire. What will they do for money? Is George working that security job? What about Cindy? They've claimed to have "had inconsistencies". Who would want to hire an untruthful person. I just wonder if they have considered the rest of their lives?

[Hudsunn]

My latest thinking (and it could change) is that the searches about home weapons and neck breaking were more about Casey's plans to do away with her parents than about Caylee.  Even the chloroform may have been a means of rendering them unconscious so she could kill them.  I know it is a dark, dark thought, but it is not that hard for an adult to kill a child.  It would have been harder to kill the parents.

I think Casey lashed out at Caylee after the big fight with Cindy and the dramatic exit from the home.  Part of the punishment of Cindy was to deprive her of visits with Caylee, and since Caylee probably begged to go home to grandma, Casey killed her in a fit of rage.  She did not beat her or break bones.  She may have suffocated her with a pillow or duct tape. 

As for the driving around, I think Casey was looking for places to dump the body and perhaps just driving and talking on her cellphone sometimes because she had nowhere else to go or was trying to clear her head and figure out what to do next.  Casey seems to go in and out of reality, if you know what I mean.  I think she was almost as attached to driving as she was to yapping on the phone.  I am sure that after you have a big blowup with your family and possibly get kicked out and then kill your child, you are a bit restless.  Casey was always kind of fidgety and on the move.

I don't think that she really planned much after dumping the body.  She just went on with her life and pretended it had not happened, though now and then reality would break through, as in those night sweats that Tony talked about.  Otherwise, she was going to party hearty until the cops came to get her.

If Cindy had not pushed the issue and insisted on phoning 911 and knowing what happened to Caylee or where she was, Casey would still be partying, shopping and saying that Caylee was with the sitter.  Remember, Casey never called 911.  Cindy did that and forced Casey to talk to them. 

[NO1ZMONKEY]

Is everyone getting the vibes I am getting from the Conway statement?  It seems to me that the Anthonys are now waiting for the truth and they do not care which direction it goes.  If it is their daughter who did this, so be it.  I hope this is their reaction.  They need the truth, not lies.  I am sure that the recognition that their little granddaughter was tossed in a trash bag and then into the woods for bugs and animals to tear at is haunting to them.  They should want the person who did this punished, even if it is their own daughter, and I hope they do. 

I saw that in his face too HUddsun, it maybe that they are playing memory

[Wyks]

If Eric is the dad, why haven't we heard from any of his relatives?

Good question! 

[JodyO]

Eric James Baker

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Sorry to bother, but who is Eric James Baker? Eric N in the collage? Can't place the name in all the young men who have been interviewed, associated with Casey, etc. Is Eric the same childhood friend of Casey's that was going to college in Jacksonville or someplace out of town who came home to Orlando infrequently? HELP PLEASE!

[cherjers]

Jose keeps saying at trial everyone will know the truth-  If they stay with the Nanny story --for it to get into the trila KC will have to take the stand.  JOSE is stupid but he cant be that stupid to put her on the stand.  If he doesnt put her on the stand -every jurior is gong to wonder why-a mother who clams her daughter was kidnapped wont tell the dtails of the kidnapping.  She is going down

[mariloo]

Let's talk about the A's lives from this point forward. They're too young to retire. What will they do for money? Is George working that security job? What about Cindy? They've claimed to have "had inconsistencies". Who would want to hire an untruthful person. I just wonder if they have considered the rest of their lives?

I see a move coming soon! 

[Wyks]

Remember that Cindy said Caylee's father is Eric N..

Found this collage on another forum, it's of Eric and Caylee.  Interesting to say the least. 

Wow wykes. he is a dead ringer to me in my book of possible sperm donors....the nose is dead on

GOOD MORNING MONKEYS!

I had always thought it was JO, KC had a crush on him in high school. BUT.....WOW is right. But why in the world would CA tell the truth???

We've found more and more that Casey is similiar to Cindy in a number of ways.  And we know that with Casey, there's a bit of truth in her lies.  Maybe the same is true for Cindy, to some extent?  Dunno...
 

[Russ]

Is everyone getting the vibes I am getting from the Conway statement?  It seems to me that the Anthonys are now waiting for the truth and they do not care which direction it goes.  If it is their daughter who did this, so be it.  I hope this is their reaction.  They need the truth, not lies.  I am sure that the recognition that their little granddaughter was tossed in a trash bag and then into the woods for bugs and animals to tear at is haunting to them.  They should want the person who did this punished, even if it is their own daughter, and I hope they do. 

Well he followed that up at night with some nonsense about the body being so close so it couldn't have been Casey that put her there or some such nonsense.  I thought the statement was good and it might be that they have distanced themselves from her.  Still no visits.  Maybe they are coming around while asking for immunity. 

I doubt it though.  Absence makes the heart grow fonder.  I think Caylee has always been an afterthought and the true bond is with the evil woman-child they raised for 22 years.

[Ono]

Greta's Backyard Tour

Thanks for the refresher - there must be significance in the timing of when Cindy puts her hand on George.  Is she controlling his story ?  Not only is it embarrassing - it must be her way of directing his script?  She does this a lot whenever they appear on TV.  I do not see how he stands her.

[Hudsunn]

Stayhomemommy, I hope Cindy and George have come to their senses.  I used to wonder what they planned to do if they managed to get Casey out of jail and she got off on these charges.  Did they really expect to live happily ever after with their obviously twisted daughter knowing that she probably killed Caylee?

I think that now they must be facing some very tough realities.  Hopefully they will cooperate fully and not try to protect Casey any further.  Casey has a team of people to represent her.  They should want the truth about what happened and justice for Caylee.