Natalee Case Discussion #719 2/02 - 2/03/08

[Nut44x4]

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[BlueKYGirl]

So do we know what time the show airs in the Netherlands? Exciting!

The show starts in 2 hours 20 minutes!

Thanks--so who on here translates Dutch?

[Tylergal]

PENHAUL: We don`t have that answer yet. We are looking into that to see what the boat`s movements were. We do know from the owner, Marcus Williams (sic), that Steve Croes did have a key to the boat. But the owner also tells us that the boat has a special electronic security system on it and he doesn`t believe that Steve Croes would have been able to take the boat without his permission. And he has described Steve Croes as a model employee, Nancy

http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Marcus+Williams++steve+croes&fr=ybr_sbc&u=edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/17/ng.01.html&w=marcus+williams+steve+croes&d=KcwNyXDuQL0q&icp=1&.intl=us

Very good question.

I would think Wiggins would be hesitant to say Croes was off the boat, but the log will not most likely be falsified as the Captain would never be able to command a ship again.  That is a very serious breach.  If Croes was signed in, that would mean he, legally would be acting as an agent of the Tattoo, and if their equipment was used that would make the Tattoo party to what happened and open them up for lawsuits and maybe criminal liability.    Jack b


What do we know about Wiggins?...TIA

Another reason to fire the "model employee..."

[Faith and Persistence]

It seems like the theory has come down to something much simpler than what was thought two years ago: date-rape drug, accidental death (OR violent death) at beach, boat disposal into the ocean.

What about: mob ties to casino, lions den, politician parties with young women, lorenzo, the rock scene, the aru-bay videos, pimps, concrete around VDS pool, furniture moving truck, etc.. ???

Players may include simply: Joran, Paulus, Deepak, Croes/Koen.

The non-players may include: Satish, Freddy, Sandre, Andre, Anita, Val, Guido, Lorenzo.

Any thoughts on this...


Keep looking up...

[SunnyinTX]

Klaas, can you enlarge  the photo of the goon in the wheelchair being moved to the "secret location" please.

I want to see who else was along for the ride.

Please don't make me go 20 pages back and start asking questions!  What is this?  Move the goon in a wheelchair??  HELP ME SOMEONE!!!

[Helen Back]

It's been a pleasure, but this is not the end, it's the beginning.

Aruba will now be on trial. Forget about legal ramifications, we can't do anything about this.

This video will open more questions on the activity of the government of Aruba, and Aruba will now have to defend it's actions.

This is a great day, and the beginning of holding those involved in the coverup accountable.

It also gives credibility to everything Beth and Dave have been saying.

Oduber and Croes have followed their lawyer, Tacopina's advice, they have been silent. Very glaring...

Exactly.

[Lala'sMom]

To help pass the time...pass it by if you hate Shango...

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring


Paulus:  Sure, I will give up my right to not testify against my son and when I am asked I will tell a few other things too.  I will tell about the rave parties where all the high rollers pick out their victims for the night.  I will tell about the people that have the places that hold these raves and how they are paid to look the other way.  I will tell.....

[Observer]

It seems like the theory has come down to something much simpler than what was thought two years ago: date-rape drug, accidental death (OR violent death) at beach, boat disposal into the ocean.

What about: mob ties to casino, lions den, politician parties with young women, lorenzo, the rock scene, the aru-bay videos, pimps, concrete around VDS pool, furniture moving truck, etc.. ???

Players may include simply: Joran, Paulus, Deepak, Croes/Koen.

The non-players may include: Satish, Freddy, Sandre, Andre, Anita, Val, Guido, Lorenzo.

Any thoughts on this...

We haven't heard the whole truth yet and I doubt we will right after this video airs. All I know for sure is Joran is not 100% responsible for everything all by himself.

I was thinking about the Rock Videos last night and what Jossy told us. He told us it was a young boy who was dismembered and was not in one piece. Think about that..WHy would he be told that and then tell us?

[Faith and Persistence]

To help pass the time...pass it by if you hate Shango...

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring


Paulus:  Sure, I will give up my right to not testify against my son and when I am asked I will tell a few other things too.  I will tell about the rave parties where all the high rollers pick out their victims for the night.  I will tell about the people that have the places that hold these raves and how they are paid to look the other way.  I will tell.....

Lala, you have always been so good with Shango. In time I think it will read like a road map.

[SunnyinTX]

It's been a pleasure, but this is not the end, it's the beginning.

Aruba will now be on trial. Forget about legal ramifications, we can't do anything about this.

This video will open more questions on the activity of the government of Aruba, and Aruba will now have to defend it's actions.

This is a great day, and the beginning of holding those involved in the coverup accountable.

It also gives credibility to everything Beth and Dave have been saying.

Oduber and Croes have followed their lawyer, Tacopina's advice, they have been silent. Very glaring...

Exactly.

when did tacopenis become the lawyer for Oduber and Croes???

[AZSunny]

Is that a wheelchair? It looks like a bike to me.  Where is the other wheel?

[Observer]

Goon in the Wheelchair:

This is far more pathetic then I thought it would be.

[Bearlyhere]

To help pass the time...pass it by if you hate Shango...

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring


Paulus:  Sure, I will give up my right to not testify against my son and when I am asked I will tell a few other things too.  I will tell about the rave parties where all the high rollers pick out their victims for the night.  I will tell about the people that have the places that hold these raves and how they are paid to look the other way.  I will tell.....

Lala, you have always been so good with Shango. In time I think it will read like a road map.

[robots]

Is that a wheelchair? It looks like a bike to me.  Where is the other wheel?

sporters bike???

[Destiny]

who is chugging more alcohol right now

1. joran
2. anita
3. paulus
4. joe t.


I would have to say the DELICIOUS SPORTER is drinking it by the YARD

anita is second

joe t is third

and paulus is out looking for more young women to rape and kill


PAULUS IS the ONE......the mastermind behind the whole nightmare

where is he ??

Robots.... we have been on the same page for years

mmmmmm good !!!!
yep - he is the one
and i always knew it

PURE EVIL

Daddy picks em, Joran reels em in.

I want to see is a different angle of the casino video

There is way more to this than Sportster claims in his "confession"

sacrificial lamb... keep the higher ups out of it

Can't wait for tonight

yep, because the odds are a zillion to one that paulus and joran and Natalee at casino table the same night and then all this BS happens

coincidence ???

nawwwwwwwww...paulus is the one

and i go back to what i have said several times,

the punks video tape it, the old men watch it and this is why it was covered up


burn in hell, all of them

 

Please know I am not trying to be disrespectful and I am a conspiracy theorist, so here it goes...

If the girls can't remember much due to the drugs slipped to them then I believe it may not just be the pimps that had their way with the 20 or so other women. (J to A : if you were here more this would not happen)

Where was the info about the 2 girls that saw the video where the men had on masks while performing things they should not be doing?  Anita... art masks

Running and hitting her head and work done on the pool concrete, videos, missing phones, casino, porno, uploads, trip to Florida...Shango... there are so many more, my mind keeps racing with so many questions

This is the tip of the iceberg, we will keep the faith

Can't wait for tonight

OK Faith!

This has been *my* way of thinging too for about 2 years...I think there is something much...much more sinister...at least that has been my take.  The Shango postings lead me to some pretty out-there research on anciant religions and rituals of the original islanders vs the invaders.   I'm with you in this line of thinking.

The Shango mssgs re: the groto...underground rock rooms, and churches also fueled the fires

What better reason to carry this fiasco so far, of protecting the players, than to cover up a secrect society?  There are well documented secret societies throughout all of human history.  All linked to power, gain, and ritualistic endevors to gain more.

Oops...letting my slip show....

C-YA

Destiny

[Tylergal]

Is that a wheelchair? It looks like a bike to me.  Where is the other wheel?

sporters bike???

The little bike that looked like it was too small for Poppin' Fresh?

Klaas, I did see the front page.  You did great.  Another thing, "she was a virgin," "I walked home."

[Lala'sMom]

To help pass the time...pass it by if you hate Shango...

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring


Paulus:  Sure, I will give up my right to not testify against my son and when I am asked I will tell a few other things too.  I will tell about the rave parties where all the high rollers pick out their victims for the night.  I will tell about the people that have the places that hold these raves and how they are paid to look the other way.  I will tell.....

Lala, you have always been so good with Shango. In time I think it will read like a road map.

 Thanks! T'was nothing.  I think it's my twisted mind that helps. 

[Bearlyhere]

FWIW

My son with autism just saw a picture of Joran and said he looks good on the outside but is evil on the inside.

Also, FWIW, he has never been wrong in his assessment of a person's face.  It is easier for him to read faces than to understand what someone is saying.

From the mouths of babes!

I know I said I was going to give it a rest, but I lied.  Am suffering from SMD (Sloot Memory Disease).  God help me.  I think it happened the 100th time I saw Anita in her see-through blouse.  I am still thanking God she had a bra on.

[Lala'sMom]

Goon in the Wheelchair:

This is far more pathetic then I thought it would be.

And these people are still protecting him?   

[Bearlyhere]

Is that a wheelchair? It looks like a bike to me.  Where is the other wheel?

Maybe it's with his other shoe.