Caylee Marie Anthony-Justice Denied/Casey Free #8 8/17/11 - 8/30-11

[trimmonthelake]

Good Morning All!
Shannon, the book; "Without Conscience" is a must read for anyone who wants to learn about psychopaths! There is also: "The Sociopath next door" by Martha Stout, a fantastic book that i have read 3 times! Also, "Venus the dark side" by Roy Sheppard & Mary Cleary. i have an ex-sil who is a psychopath, i have read everything i could get my hands on! The lovefraud site i have saved in my favorites, it's the first site i go to when i have a question.
Have a great day all! 

Hey Monken! 
Thanks for listing those books,I will check them out.   

[cookie]

I guess to the jury I would say riddle me this..If Casey was such a fine mother, fine daughter and upstanding citizens as her parents and the defense claimed..why have her parents have said she can not live their with them..why is it Mason said she could come to stay with him..but just for a short time..not too long....After all these years in jail..Cindy's many pilgramages to and fro to see the silent one who would not see them..why would they not welcome this verdict and embrace her and welcome her home?

Because they know that she is a murdering sociopath and they were next. They probably have changed the locks and have installed security so if the woman comes within 50 feet of the house alarms sound and all hell breaks out. 

I do believe that Cindy and George have gotten on the gravy train again and we will soon hear of more then just Dr Phil..there will be others to follow and movie and book deals..probably the slant as told by the long suffering grandparents.

right Gypsy. They've got no other slant except "long suffering grandparents" because any other view of them would involve truth and they don't do truth.
I'm still undecided if this continued break from their spawn is part of the charade or if they will also cast her aside by telling the world how stunned and hurt they were....could be a combo of the two. Get as much mileage as they can on the "felon hurt us" train and then play out the "therapeutic we forgive you" crap.  This saga clued me in that there really are evil people in our world. Not the night stalking, blood dripping types but the black souled kind that can callously forget a grandchild and then reduce her to being their meal ticket.
Is there such a thing as a sociopathic  gene or family?  It sure appears that the A's are all terribly flawed, damaged.

Bold above by me In his book, Without Conscience, Dr. Robert Hare writes, "Indifference to the welfare of children—their own as well as those of the man or woman they happen to be living with at the time—is a common theme in our files of psychopaths. (He prefers the term 'psychopaths.') Psychopaths see children as an inconvenience."*

This indifference to children's welfare may take many forms. Sociopaths may leave children—even infants—alone or in the care of unreliable babysitters. They may fail to provide children with food and proper clothing.

Sociopaths who appear to be taking care of their children may still be manipulating the kids for their own purposes. They may:

    Demand certain behavior or accomplishments—for their own image, not for the benefit of the child.
    Inflict emotional abuse, so that children have no concept of normalcy.
    Deliberately try to corrupt a child through inappropriate or dangerous activities, such as pornography.

When sociopaths are involved with children, always be on guard.
The sad truth about sociopaths is that the temperamental traits that lead to this character disorder are mostly genetic.

http://www.lovefraud.com/12_leavingAsociopath/sociopaths_and_children.html

wow! if this doesn't describe Casey and her parents to a T, I don't know what does!

[serenity/4thekids]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1042767810001/the-verdict-according-to-casey-juror-no-3

In this interview, Jennifer says they needed something to say Caylee's death was no accident. Uh, excuse me but how about 31 days of partying, how about never reporting Caylee missing, how about putting Caylee in trash bags in the swamp?

[Western Observr]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1042767810001/the-verdict-according-to-casey-juror-no-3

In this interview, Jennifer says they needed something to say Caylee's death was no accident. Uh, excuse me but how about 31 days of partying, how about never reporting Caylee missing, how about putting Caylee in trash bags in the swamp?

How about Casey never saying there was an accident?
What in the course of that trial could have ever given them the impression there was an accident?
They defy common sense at every turn. I wish that stupid woman would just shut up.

[Kat_Gram]

Cindy and George saying that she can't live with them. That statement implies that they won't ALLOW her to live there. That is just a thing for the media to put out there to try to change our perception of the Anthony's. For the Dr. Phil debut of the new and improved family. The one that starts a foundation to " help" others. The caring family. The long suffering grandparents, who care about others so much they are going to devote their time, energy and YOUR money to a cause. Such selfless persons.
Casey can't live anywhere where people know where she is. The house would be surrounded.

.............
I do not watch Dr. Phil. I for sure have lost respect for him.
I wish they would just all go away.
I've noticed that here has been less and less of their nonsense on CNN and I hope it stays that way.

[Terri]

Good afternoon monkeys.

I do not watch Dr. Phil.   However, since the announcement the A will be on his show, I have seen bits of a few of his shows.   How will he interview the A's?   He is confrontataional and INSIST he does not coddle or sugar coat things.   Since I first saw Sin sin on the Nancy Grace show, she has insisted upon being coddled and directing the conversation.   Will the good doctor allow her to run the show without confrontation just to get the interview?  Or will he do a modified, pre planned confrontation?

Terri

[serenity/4thekids]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1042767810001/the-verdict-according-to-casey-juror-no-3

In this interview, Jennifer says they needed something to say Caylee's death was no accident. Uh, excuse me but how about 31 days of partying, how about never reporting Caylee missing, how about putting Caylee in trash bags in the swamp?

How about Casey never saying there was an accident?
What in the course of that trial could have ever given them the impression there was an accident?
They defy common sense at every turn. I wish that stupid woman would just shut up.

Yep as well as no evidence to support it, in fact what I was searching for was the interview with one of the jurors saying they discounted the opening statement from Baez saying Caylee drowned, so then how do they think this healthy 3 yr old died? Well jury foreman says they thought that possibly not only did they think George had something to do with her being left in the swamp but that they thought George could have murdered her! If they saw no evidence that Casey did this with all that was presented to them, then how in the heck do they come to this conclusion about George? He said that George was there on the 15th when Casey and Caylee left, ok hold up because that was the 16th! Could it had been a mistake on his part, I don't think so, I think it shows how little they paid attention. JMO

[serenity/4thekids]

Good afternoon monkeys.

I do not watch Dr. Phil.   However, since the announcement the A will be on his show, I have seen bits of a few of his shows.   How will he interview the A's?   He is confrontataional and INSIST he does not coddle or sugar coat things.   Since I first saw Sin sin on the Nancy Grace show, she has insisted upon being coddled and directing the conversation.   Will the good doctor allow her to run the show without confrontation just to get the interview?  Or will he do a modified, pre planned confrontation?

Terri

I've always thought Dr Phil gave pretty good advice and that he's never held back when it came to guests on his show, but I just sense that there were "conditions" in order for him to have this sit down with the A's because they wouldn't agree to anything else knowing them, I think he's going to coddle them per his own words in advertising this that "they've been through so much" tells me he sympathizes with them. I'm also upset with him helping them to pimp their Caylee's Fund when it's obvious he's never checked this out to see that only 20% will go to help children. And lastly, I can't imagine why he would think he's getting any honest answers when that didn't happen in a court of law under oath. JMO

[trimmonthelake]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/08/casey-anthony-she-is-getting-therapy-jose-baez-says.html/comment-page-1
Casey Anthony: She is getting therapy, Jose Baez says
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, Jose Baez, Univision, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on August, 21 2011 3:10 PM
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[trimmonthelake]

I can't understand a word of this.     08/20/2011
Casey's lawyer, Jose Baez interviewed in Sabado Gigante about Casey trail - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z83QEv22oQ0

Casey's lawyer, Jose Baez interviewed in Sabado Gigante about Casey trail - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX-pE75ABEE

[trimmonthelake]

http://www2.tbo.com/news/opinion/2011/aug/21/vwopino1-officials-shouldnt-overreact-to-casey-ant-ar-251657/
Editorial
Officials shouldn't overreact to Casey Anthony case
By TBO.COM
Published: August 21, 2011

[pharlap]

http://www2.tbo.com/news/opinion/2011/aug/21/vwopino1-officials-shouldnt-overreact-to-casey-ant-ar-251657/
Editorial
Officials shouldn't overreact to Casey Anthony case
By TBO.COM
Published: August 21, 2011

What are they/whoever wrote this, smokin.... Get out of dodge....

[ospainter]

JB just confirmed on Geraldo's show that CA is back in FL.

OS

[ospainter]

JS also said CA is had limited contact with her parents and HAS spoken to them..

OS

[ospainter]

JS says CA is NOT spoken with Lee.

OS

[ospainter]

Sorry

JB not JS..

OS

[mizjay]

I guess to the jury I would say riddle me this..If Casey was such a fine mother, fine daughter and upstanding citizens as her parents and the defense claimed..why have her parents have said she can not live their with them..why is it Mason said she could come to stay with him..but just for a short time..not too long....After all these years in jail..Cindy's many pilgramages to and fro to see the silent one who would not see them..why would they not welcome this verdict and embrace her and welcome her home?

Because they know that she is a murdering sociopath and they were next. They probably have changed the locks and have installed security so if the woman comes within 50 feet of the house alarms sound and all hell breaks out. 

I do believe that Cindy and George have gotten on the gravy train again and we will soon hear of more then just Dr Phil..there will be others to follow and movie and book deals..probably the slant as told by the long suffering grandparents.

right Gypsy. They've got no other slant except "long suffering grandparents" because any other view of them would involve truth and they don't do truth.
I'm still undecided if this continued break from their spawn is part of the charade or if they will also cast her aside by telling the world how stunned and hurt they were....could be a combo of the two. Get as much mileage as they can on the "felon hurt us" train and then play out the "therapeutic we forgive you" crap.  This saga clued me in that there really are evil people in our world. Not the night stalking, blood dripping types but the black souled kind that can callously forget a grandchild and then reduce her to being their meal ticket.
Is there such a thing as a sociopathic  gene or family?  It sure appears that the A's are all terribly flawed, damaged.

Bold above by me In his book, Without Conscience, Dr. Robert Hare writes, "Indifference to the welfare of children—their own as well as those of the man or woman they happen to be living with at the time—is a common theme in our files of psychopaths. (He prefers the term 'psychopaths.') Psychopaths see children as an inconvenience."*

This indifference to children's welfare may take many forms. Sociopaths may leave children—even infants—alone or in the care of unreliable babysitters. They may fail to provide children with food and proper clothing.

Sociopaths who appear to be taking care of their children may still be manipulating the kids for their own purposes. They may:

    Demand certain behavior or accomplishments—for their own image, not for the benefit of the child.
    Inflict emotional abuse, so that children have no concept of normalcy.
    Deliberately try to corrupt a child through inappropriate or dangerous activities, such as pornography.

When sociopaths are involved with children, always be on guard.
The sad truth about sociopaths is that the temperamental traits that lead to this character disorder are mostly genetic.

http://www.lovefraud.com/12_leavingAsociopath/sociopaths_and_children.html

wow! if this doesn't describe Casey and her parents to a T, I don't know what does!

It sure does. The whole family seems to be without normal healthy emotions or reactions. (guess murder is proof of that) 
PS~ thanks Monken, I'm going to check out the books you mentioned and Dr. Hare.

[bikerbev]

According to Baezwho was on Whoraldo tonight, Casey is back in Florida and has been in contact with her parents.  She has not been in contact with Lee.  I have a hinkering, she's gonna move back in with her folks.  Don't you see it coming?

[Curly]

http://www.wftv.com/news/28933170/detail.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_break&ts=T&tmi=orlc_break_1_10050208212011

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's lead attorney Jose Baez said on national TV that his client is back in the state of Florida.
Baez confirmed to Geraldo Rivera that pictures of Casey taken in Ohio that appeared on TMZ were indeed real and that she was in Columbus.

[Puzzler]

According to Baezwho was on Whoraldo tonight, Casey is back in Florida and has been in contact with her parents.  She has not been in contact with Lee.  I have a hinkering, she's gonna move back in with her folks.  Don't you see it coming?

It's disgusting to say, but YES, I can see that.  I'm hoping that the A's won't let her come back to their home.  It would really tear up the neighborhood again and I think their neighbors need peace.

Also, I can see KC working her way into attending Lee's October wedding (you know...still his thunder so he won't take the spotlight away from her).