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Natalee's Candles  ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Nat's

Thanks for the new thread Muffy  ::boxingjoran::

YW Klaas. ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::
                              ::bee::

MuffyBee ... I agree.

However ... there are those who are not like minded.

Janet

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Wonderful, Wonderful Woman

JOY BEHAR SHOW
Van Der Sloot Admits Extortion
Aired September 7, 2010 - 21:00:00   ET

JOE TACOPINA, FORMER ATTORNEY FOR VAN DER SLOOT:  And remember, Jean, you know this that Joran`s mother Anita, who really is a wonderful, wonderful woman tried in the last year and a half to get him committed.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/04/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T2


Good Mother

Dutch Crime Reporter Peter De Vries Goes Inside Joran van der Sloot's Explosive Tape
Friday, February 08, 2008

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Both his parents -- were they both present for that?

PETER DE VRIES, DUTCH CRIME REPORTER: : Yes, they were present. Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did Joran's parents say anything to you at that point or even after the show?

DE VRIES: After the show, they apologized for what their son did.  And I think his mother is a good mother. She loves her son, but she doesn't know what he is doing, I think.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329847,00.html

It looks like they may try to locate the missing fishing boat with a Remus.

http://www.diario.aw/

October 15, 2011 Diario Front Page

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Papiamentu translation:

buzonan of navy regal owing to busca shanty cu aparatonan sofistica

oranjestad (aan) for of the barco hr. ms. pelikaan, buzonan of navy regal owing to descend in lama big for busca in profundidad for see if will can localiza the boat sahnty cu is perdi cu 2 piscador for of end of week happen. here can see the boat remus is wordo descend cu owing to aparatonan, for her buskeda can take lugar. can read more of this in the edicion here.

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

October 15, 2011 Page 3

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In 1999, one of the missing fishermen (Pierre Croes) helped rescue three tourists (I think it says when their catamaran turned over).

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lost-At-Sea-Pierre-Croes-Emiliano-de-Cuba-Help-Us/211465062252107

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/dutch-british-forensic-team-launched

Dutch-British forensic team launched
Published on : 16 October 2011 - 7:50am | By Philip Smet    (RNW)

Could this be murder? Was this person wrongly imprisoned? The Independent Forensic Team will look into politically sensitive cases in countries where there’s hardly any scientific investigation into crimes. The Dutch-British team is independent and non-commercial.

The Independent Forensic Team was officially launched a week ago as a nonprofit-making organisation, explains Pim Volkers one of its founders.

“Corruption or human rights abuses - it can be about death in suspicious circumstances or where someone is unjustly imprisoned. We will have done really good work if, after our investigations, it is shown that the person in question hasn’t committed murder or rape.”

Mr Volkers is director of the Verilabs forensic company, which mostly works for the Dutch police and justice departments. One and a half years ago, the firm went to Congo where the well-known activist, Floribert Chebeya, had been found dead under suspicious circumstances.

Experience
A Dutch organisation had requested the help of Verilabs and the Dutch embassy had mediated. “The country has just one clinical pathologist who has little experience in forensic post-mortems. The call went out for an independent team.”

The Congo case led to The Independent Forensic Team being set up.

“If we open the paper, we sometimes read about a situation which has to be investigated. This most often occurs in countries with a less well-developed system of justice – and where there’s absolutely no system of forensic investigation. We feel something should be done about this.”

Disputes
Mr Volkers set the team up together with his colleague, forensic pathologist Frank van de Goot, and British forensic scientist Angela Gallop. Dutch lawyer Geert-Jan Knoops, former London police commissioner John Stevens and Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries are on the board.

Mr De Vries has known Volkers and his team for some time:

“If the cause of death is questionable, one side will often accuse the other of influencing the forensic institute. You can then call upon an independent investigation team that is not involved and has no interest in taking sides, people with a good reputation. Then the chance is that the two sides will give up the dispute. That’s how it should work.”

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http://www.independentforensicteam.com/advisory_board/

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IFT is supported by a special Advisory Board which ensures that the organization stays close to its founding principles of independence, impartiality, and technical excellence. Members of the Advisory Board include Prof Geert-Jan Knoops, Peter R. de Vries and Lord Stevens:

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Peter R. de Vries

For more than a quarter of a century, Peter R. de Vries had been the best-known crime journalist in the Netherlands. Born in 1956, De Vries has established an international reputation investigating (cold case) murders, disappearances, extortion, abductions and violent crimes. In 2013, De Vries’ career as a crime reporter will have spanned 35 years. He has solved innumerable murders, exposed miscarriages of justice, explained disappearances, unraveled major fraud cases and tracked-down fugitive criminals. He has researched the activities of organized crime, but also exposed corruption and abuse of power by judicial authorities. De Vries is author of ten true crime books, including the most definitive account of the kidnapping of beer baron Alfred Heineken.

During the course of his career, Peter R. de Vries has investigated more than 500 murders, both in the Netherlands and internationally, and is widely respected as an expert in the field. In many of these cases, De Vries has cooperated closely with police and detectives, while never compromising his independence. His tactical and analytical insight is especially renowned. De Vries has received several awards for his television work, including the prestigious International Emmy Award (2008) for his coverage of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruba.

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 ::justice2NJ:: 
 ::justice2NJ::
 
Thank you for posting the lovely picture, TexasMom. 

YW, MuffyBee   ::bee:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Just wish we could bring her home where she belongs....   :smt090

Maybe they're hoping Mary Hamer will feel sorry for them too?

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/everything-has-its-price-dutch-prisoners-peru

Everything has a price for Dutch prisoners in Peru

Published on : 17 October 2011 - 3:28pm | By Carlos Cornejo (Photo: Carlos Cornejo)


Nothing comes free in a Peruvian prison. Everything has its price, from toothpaste to female visitors. Three Dutchmen are being held in a jail in Lima's seaport El Callao. They told RNW correspondent Carlos Cornejo about their daily lives, "You don't know when you will be released."

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All drug trafficking suspects arrested at El Callao's international airport end up in this prison. Among them are Dutch citizens Behs Willie, Nico Schaper and Anthonius Arnie Delfstra. They are in the foreigners' pavillion on suspicion of trying to export cocaine from Peru. Willie, the best Spanish speaker, does not want to discuss his crime: "I've been in Colombia, I already know all about this and I'm not afraid."

Money
The oldest of the three, 45-year-old Willie, was sentenced to 6 years and 8 months and will be released in two months. He does not want to return to the Netherlands, preferring to stay in Latin America to be close to his daughter. The girl was born while he was in detention.

Delfstra, aged 32 and the youngest of the trio, spends his days laundering clothes. He said, "Everything here costs money, which I haven't got. So instead I clean other people's clothes." Schaper, also in his forties, has a little more leeway. "At least I can go to the gym, do some training or work for a couple of hours."

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The three Dutchmen are amazed at the way things are done in this prison, and the Peruvian legal system is a similar mystery. "What do you mean, legal system? There is no such thing here," says Willie. A question nagging Schaper is why there are such diverse penalties for one and the same crime. He still has to serve another six years, and says "The only thing you know for sure is when you enter this place, you never know when you will be leaving it." Arnie Delfstra adds, "If the social worker doesn't like you, you're in for it. If the psychologist finds you unsympathetic, you won't be released. It's totally arbitrary."

Joran van der Sloot
What they miss most is their families. Every day they imagine how it would be to be reunited with them after all those years. But Peruvian law does not allow that to become reality, because relesed prisoners have to stay in the country and report to the police. Their only hope is for their families to join them in Peru.

Until then, they have to pay for everything: toilet paper, cell hire, women, a TV inside the cell, toothpaste, justice. Even if a prisoner wants to receive a female visitor, they have to pay their fellow prisoners for some privacy. The rate is two dollars, a fortune in prison terms. Curtains are hung around the bunk beds to ward off inquisitive gazes.

Does the presence of the most notorious Dutch prisoner in Peru, Joran van der Sloot, affect them at all? Not really, according to Willie. "He is dangerous enough. He is kept isolated, and we have no contact with him."

Tacopino defending Lisa Irwin's parents  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Criminal defense attorney Joe Tacopina will represent Irwin family
Posted: 9:46 AM
Last Updated: 1 minute ago

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A Monday-afternoon news conference was held by the family of Lisa Irwin to announce the hiring of a New York-based criminal defense attorney in the investigation into the disappearance of the now-11-month-old girl.

Lisa, who will turn 1 year old on Nov. 11, has not been seen since Monday, Oct. 3. Her parents initially said her mother, Deborah Bradley, put her to bed around 10:30 p.m., but NBC News reported Monday they are now saying she put Lisa to bed closer to 6:30 p.m.

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http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/lisa-irwin-family-to-hold-230-pm-news-conference

http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/2643990/aanklacht-van-sloot-weer-teruggestuurd.html

Van der Sloot indictment sent back
Last update: October 17, 2011 9:08 p.m.

AMSTERDAM - The Peruvian court that the case against Joran van der Sloot deal, the charges against him for the second time sent back to justice.

The court was not satisfied with the way it was reformulated. The charge is sent to a higher prosecutor, attorney Edward Alvarez said Monday.

Counsel for the family of the murdered Stephany Flores expects the revised indictment within one week is back in court.

If the court accepts the complaint, the actual process against Van der Sloot planned. "That will be in November," said Alvarez.

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http://www.leidschdagblad.nl/nieuws/buitenland/article11906721.ece/Exclusief-interview-met-vertaler-die-Joran-van-der-Sloot-bijstond

Exclusive interview with translator Joran stood by
Published on October 17, 11, 14:24 Last updated on October 17, 11, 14:27

LIMA - Joran van der Sloot is suspected of involvement in the death of Stephany Flores in Peru on May 30, 2010 and the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba on May 30, 2005. He was arrested June 3, 2010 in Chile and is attached in the Peruvian capital Lima pending the hearing of his trial.

Van der Sloot was in his case before the tribunal of Lima in Peru, partly assisted by the resident Dutchman Maurice Stein acting as translator. Stein witnessed the confession of Joran. Van der Sloot has sued him for false publication of his role as an interpreter.

Stein does tomorrow, Tuesday, October 18, exclusive story in this newspaper.

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Thanks Grace

I hope this time the prosecution gets it right.  The deadline looms.

There was a point in time prior to the filing of the orginal charge when the Flores were not going to challenge the prosecutor's case against Joran van der Sloot ... the charge which would have implied a 30 year sentence.

What were the troubling aspects of the prosecutor's orginal case ... so troubling that the Flores had no choice but to risk a delay ... a delay which would compromise the 18 month deadline and ... allow Joran ... a flight risk ... to be set free?

Now the court ... for a second time ... is sending back the case to the prosecution.

I am thankful that another prosecutor is attempting a revision that will satisfy the court.  However ... I am getting a hinky feeling that the prosecution may not be on the side of justice for for Stephany?

Janet

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Prior to the Filing of Charges

Van der Sloot victim's family caught in time dilemma
Published: 9/09 7:28 am
Updated: 9/09 7:46 am

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The family of murder victim Stephany Flores has another tough decision to make. 

The Flores family wants prosecutors to seek a longer sentence against confessed killer Joran van der Sloot.  He's currently looking at a thirty year sentence if convicted of killing the 21 year old student.

They also want an end to the legal process that began when their daughter was found dead in van der Sloot's Lima, Peru hotel room in May 2010. 

The family's lawyer tells The Associated Press that Stephany Flores' family won't object to the proposed sentence because it doesn't want the trial delayed.  Lawyer Edward Alvarez says that if the Flores family were to raise objections Monday the trial could be delayed until next year.

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http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Natalee-Holloway-movie-debuts-in-Holland-this-week/ZeIfARIObk-8t4_pR2tINg.cspx


Following the Filing of Charges

Peruvian judges to decide on trial date for Van der Sloot
Published on September 12, 2011

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Alvarez said there were also some discrepancies with the evidence presented in the case and the official charges of voluntary manslaughter.

"We have said there are inconsistencies in the prosecution's account and its accusations, between the evidence it uses and what it is asking for. These inconsistencies could bring about negative consequences at trial because it could result in a mistrial," Alvarez said.

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http://www.ntn24.com/news/news/peruvian-judges-decide-trial-date-van-der-sloot


Peru to beef up Joran van der Sloot charges
Published on 17 September 2011 - 4:38pm

Peru’s Public Prosecutor has been ordered to reconsider the charges is has brought against Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is accused of killing Peruvian student Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010.

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By December, Mr Van der Sloot will have been held on remand for the maximum 18 months allowed under Peruvian law. This could mean he will be released and await the remainder of his trial as a free person. The Public Prosecutor, however, can request an extension of his pre-trial detention.

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/peru-beef-joran-van-der-sloot-charges

s.t.

Thanks grace-land!   ::MonkeyCool::

YW, Janet.  In my opinion, the "higher prosecutor" in Peru will get it right. Stephany's family will demand justice!

YW, texasmom.  I was just about to post the information about Peter de Vries last night when I checked and saw your post. lol  Good job!

Considering the deadline ... the family of Stephany Flores was not pleased with how long the prosecutor was taking to present the initial case against Joran to the judge and ... then when that case was presented the Flores' attorney stated that it was flawed which implied a delay in a process with a deadline looming.

I believe if Stephany did not have staunch advocates ... Joran would not be facing a trial ... a trial that the Prosecutor Miriam Riveros Castellares appeared to be attempting to prevent from taking place.

Grace ... I am also thankful that the judge is presenting the case to another more experienced prosecutor but ... it makes sense that a new prosecutor has lots of homework to do if all aspects of the case are fully comprehended prior to returning it to the judge before the 18 month deadline lapses.

Janet

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Woman's family wants speedy trial for van der Sloot
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 17, 2011 -- Updated 2200 GMT (0600 HKT

(CNN) -- The family of a slain Peruvian woman is urging prosecutors to file their case against murder suspect Joran van der Sloot, warning that he may be released by December unless the case goes ahead.

"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free," Ricardo Flores, the dead woman's father, told CNN.

Van der Sloot faces charges in the May 2010 killing of Stephany Flores, who was found dead in his Lima hotel room. Police say van der Sloot took money and bank cards from her wallet and fled to Chile, where he was arrested a few days later.

Investigators delivered their case file to prosecutors in June for a decision on charges. Ricardo Flores said the prosecutor in the case, Miriam Riveros Castellares, is "not moving with the speed that a case of this magnitude merits."

"We're asking that either the prosecutor file charges or that authorities remove her from this case and name somebody else," he said.

There was no immediate response to the family's concerns from the prosecutor's office.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/17/peru.van.der.sloot/


Peruvian judges to decide on trial date for Van der Sloot
Published on September 12, 2011

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Alvarez said there were also some discrepancies with the evidence presented in the case and the official charges of voluntary manslaughter.

"We have said there are inconsistencies in the prosecution's account and its accusations, between the evidence it uses and what it is asking for. These inconsistencies could bring about negative consequences at trial because it could result in a mistrial," Alvarez said.

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http://www.ntn24.com/news/news/peruvian-judges-decide-trial-date-van-der-sloot

Ricardo Flores - November, 2010

'Joran lives like a king in jail.  It is shameful what happens in prisons. I think the INPE has to give the same treatment to all criminals.'

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/83737/familia-flores-aseguran-que-joran-van-der-sloot-vive-como-rey

Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:23:40 -0700 (PDT)
From:   "tito lacle" <edited>
Subject: Re: New Witness
To:"Kermit" <edited>

thanks for your kind words.

The Kalpoes are still suspects.. just not taking DNA
testing from them..

The witness police are tracking down is a jogger
(male) who came forward already as a witness.. jogs in
the wee hours of the morning.. being very carefull
wheeling him in.. not to make the same mistake as with
the gardener..

Regards

TL

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.switched.com/media/2009/02/worm-20090116-425.jpg)

the worms crawl in the worms crawl out...............thinking about Kalpoes today......
carry on

Case Summary


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Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW

Filing Date: 12/13/2006
Case Type: Defamation (Slander/Libel) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

10/31/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Compel

11/16/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 11-21-2011)

11/21/2011 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 35 DAY EST.)

01/03/2012 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Dismiss (THIRD MOTION TO DISMISS ANDREQUEST FOR TERMINATING SANCTIONS)

Why would they schedule a hearing to dismiss AFTER the trial.  They must not be able to go to trial because of the lack of cooperation from the Kalpoes.  ::MonkeyCool:: ::justice2NJ::

CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Aired August 18, 2005

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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  TWITTY: Well, I mean, we've known from day one that Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are way deeply involved in this crime with Natalee.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/18/lkl.01.html

 ::justice2NJ::

This case should have been dismissed in February, 2008 when a motion was presented by Phil McGraw's attorneys alleging that the Kalpoes' attorneys failed to comply to court requests for documents.  A five day deadline to comply came came and went a long time ago.

Janet

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Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil

A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns. ....

In their dismissal motion, lawyers for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

"The documents are relevant to the most fundamental issues in this case," Ferns stated in his ruling.

"There is no other (information) which can substitute for the documents sought by the defendants due to the nature of this case."

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http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html

Thanks Klaas.

Janet

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::

I'm not sure I understand the "Terminating Sanctions" part...   ::MonkeyConfused::

That's the only reason I can see for scheduling the hearing after the trial date.

It's crazy, I'll be glad when it's over.  It should be DISMISSED!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ::

Looking at the full list of filings - posting everything with the word sactions  ::MonkeyCool:: :

10/04/2007 Notice of Motion (TO DISMISS PLT'S CLAIMS FOR WILLFUL FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH COURT ORDER; REQ FOR TERMINATING AND OTHER SANCTIONS FOR MISUSE OF DISCOVERY PROCESS; MEMO P&A'S )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

02/14/2008 Motion to Dismiss (AND REQUEST FOR TERMINATING SANCTIONS, ETC. SET: 4-3-08)
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

04/22/2008 Reply/Response (to Plaintiffs' Opposition to Defendants' Second Motion to Dismiss and Request for Terminating Sanctions for Plaintiffs' Willful Failure to Comply with Court Orders)
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

10/15/2008 at 08:30 am in Department 69, Edward A. Ferns, Presiding
Motion to Strike (Complaint Pursuant to CCP 425.162) Second Motion to Dismiss andRequest for Terminating Sanctions3) Case Management Conference) - Not Held-Continued

12/04/2008 at 08:30 am in Department 69, Edward A. Ferns, Presiding
Motion to Compel (Further Interrogatory Responsesand Production of Documents (4);2) Second Motion to Dismiss andRequest for Terminating Sanctions3) Case Management Conference4) Re Counsel Pro Hac Vice) - Matter continued

03/26/2009 at 08:30 am in Department 69, Edward A. Ferns, Presiding
Motion to Compel (Further Interrogatory Responsesand Production of Documents (4);2) Second Motion to Dismiss andRequest for Terminating Sanctions;3) Case Management Conference) - Court's ruling and order entered

and now

01/03/2012 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Dismiss (THIRD MOTION TO DISMISS ANDREQUEST FOR TERMINATING SANCTIONS)

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::

6 degrees of Joran van der Sloot
   
Birmingham, Alabama (WIAT)  You've heard of six degrees of Kevin Bacon?  That parlor game can't hold a candle to six degrees of Joran van der Sloot.  Pick a high profile tabloid crime case of the last ten years and it usually comes back to some connection to the prime suspect in the Natalee Holloway case.

Although van der Sloot is currently in prison waiting trial on charges he robbed and murdered a Peruvian student, the tentacles reach worldwide.

The latest example is the hiring of New York lawyer Joe Tacopina to represent the parents of a missing Kansas City infant.  Tacopina, of course, once represented van der Sloot when he was being investigated in Natalee Holloway's disappearance on a graduation trip to Aruba.

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http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/6-degrees-of-Joran-van-der-Sloot/Q7A3yfwErUiWRvxsNJQI-A.cspx

Thanks Klaas.

When is the trial scheduled?  The date of Phil McGraw's latest motion to dismiss implies IF there is a trial it will not be until after January 3, 2012.

Janet

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/2973364/2011/10/18/Joran-braakte-na-ruiken-bebloed-shirt.dhtml

Google translation

Tuesday, October 18, 2011
"Joran vomited after smelling bloody shirt Flores'

Joran was during his questioning about the murder of Stephany Flores in the shirt printed that he used his nose to make her choke. It smelled very pungent and garment was stained with blood, let interpreter Maurice Stein know. "He spontaneously began to vomit."

The 34-year-old Stein has an interview with the Voice more details about Van der Sloot's confession brought out.

Sick
Stein himself was sick of the smell of the shirt. "I've never seen anything like it, or smelled. I could barely suppress the nausea. That was the shirt that Flores had made it impossible to breathe. "

Moist eyes
Joran said he Stephany an elbow on her nose gave, because they would have looked on his computer. "By all the blood that blow had caused, he says he got into a panic. He did not know what to do, because she began to lose consciousness. He therefore decided to strangle her. "

Then he says that it does not succeed immediately, which he stuffed a shirt in her mouth, hoping she would suffocate. "The same shirt came to the table. Joran was sick and had to vomit. That was the only time I saw his eyes moist and perceived remorse. "

Cigarettes
Joran Stein describes as a peaceful and cooperative suspect, who constantly asked for cigarettes. "He introduced himself politely and was credible," Stein stressed that it was very striking that the hearing officer on his cell phone was filming. " Those images of the confession were recently released.

Confession remains
Stein gave the interview last week after it became known that the court refuse to Van der Sloot's lawyer and the interpreter who were present at the first hearings to disqualify rejected. Joran claimed his rights were violated.

Thus his confession under duress and have made, Van der Sloot that no official interpreter at the hearings in June last year. Earlier, a judge rejected the request of the hand and now it was also rejected on appeal.

"I told him clearly that I often do translations for the Peruvian dish," says the interpreter. "Then he agreed with me as interpreter." Stein occur almost weekly as an interpreter for Dutch people who appear before the Peruvian courts.

"That's actually a sideline, because I run my own travel agency in Lima. All I've done five hundred seats, were on drugs, but the murder of Flores. "

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He only defends the guilty.  Looks bad to me.

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/87909-speciale-commissie-prostitutie-san-nicolas

Google translation:

Special Committee on Prostitution San Nicolas

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18 2011 10:14

ORANGE CITY - The European Day against trafficking has also been repeated in Aruba today. With extra attention in the media, leaflets and putting up posters asking the Task Force Human Trafficking and Smuggling renewed attention to the hotline launched in April and the awareness campaign "Open your Eyes". Tomorrow starts a three-day conference and show in a press conference this morning that there is a committee formed within the task force that focuses on prostitution in San Nicolas.

According to National Coordinator for Human Trafficking and smuggling Jeanette Richardson-Perch is the committee due to the recent audit by the government in the red light district of San Nicolas. Consequently, according to her anyway of issues that may be related to trafficking or may cause. Perch says that the question whether the government is also working on prevention in the sex industry. This is because global research shows that this sector very vulnerable to trafficking. The coordinator said that the establishment of a separate committee within the task force will now be looking at the situation is particularly so in San Nicolas. Furthermore, in the countries where most prostitutes come from Colombia and Venezuela, information material. Women from these countries can therefore advance about the hotline in Aruba and what to do when they are exploited for example. Yet it remains difficult Baars says, because women often only for a short time here and in rotation on the other islands to work. Abuse also means that they will not be accepted and thus susceptible to falling income, which is significant compared to the situation in their homeland, to go wrong.


Lucrative

Because trafficking is lucrative, says the coordinator. It provides the most profitable in crime, more than drug trafficking. "If a person is operating, is about $ 250,000 a year profit," quantifies perch. Trafficking is also often associated with money laundering. This is one of the issues which the conference is to start tomorrow. Friday is also the conference entirely dedicated to the victims of child labor or courted as a victim in the sex industry. Baars: "We are in Aruba yet to do before, but that does not mean that you must be blind. If it occurs worldwide, it would be foolish to say that this is not happening. "The conference attracts by her people from abroad. All the more because it co-organized by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with a lot of expertise in that area. For although the phenomenon of trafficking and smuggling in many global knowledge, is in many professionals in police, justice and treatment still unknown what is in means and how to assist victims.

The citizens' awareness, since the government is already in April this year actively embarked on a campaign and hotline. Since then, according to perch, but also two reports to the hotline received, which also yielded no new cases. There are, however, the task force in the meantime announced two new cases, both are about possible exploitation and are now being investigated. One is a domestic help and the other one personeellid in a supermarket. The task force also gave in April to investigate high risk such as construction, supermarkets and so the sex industry. Baars: "We are still looking for someone who can perform. We try to collaborate with the University of Aruba, perhaps a student could do this. "

Two document response by the Kalpoe attorneys to the Dr. Phil attorneys request for additional information from Arlene Schipper:


Doc 1 (main info)

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Doc 2 (main info)
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Looks like Aruba's conspiracy continues with getting rid of documents!

I can't wait until trial when they put Arlene Ellis-Schipper on the stand and she starts that double-talk of hers.

Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight!  Tune in now!

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http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u

The line was drawn in the sand at the getgo.  The Kalpoes' attorney made it clear to the court that no case documents would be released.  Why has this case been allowed to drag on and on and on and on?

Has the Kalpoes' attorney convinced the judge that case documents are not the issue.  The issue is the portion of the defamation lawsuit which alleges that the Dr. Phil recording of the interview with Jamie Skeeter was deceptively manipulated to imply Deepak incriminated himself?

Will the defamation lawsuit finally be thrown out as per another motion filed by Phil McGraw's attorneys or ... will the judge allow the trial proceed?

Janet

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Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007

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KELLY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over, which was sort of, for lack of a better word, arrogant on his part. The court did not necessarily like that.

But I can't see them both using the courts as a sword and then a shield. They can't bring this action, they can't seek damages and not obey the orders of the court and expect their case to go forward.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html

Klaas

Thanks for posting the documents.

I am anticipating a positive outcome in regards to both the defamation lawsuit and the Stephany Flores case ... a positive outcome that implies that Joran, Deepak and Satish all lose big time.

Janet

Natalee's Birthday - October 21st
 
Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 198:  The holidays will be here soon, and we’ll have to face the first season without Natalee.   People ask what I will do, how we’ll get through it.  But it’s not the holidays and birthdays that get to me.  It’s the milestones.  Natalee would be looking forward to her winter break after her first semester at college.  But she isn’t coming home from college for Christmas.  She isn’t coming home.

Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It’s not easy. I ask God to help me.
 

Thanks Klaas!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Thanks anonymous monkey that purchases the documents!  ::MonkeyKiss::

IMO, the judge should see right through this. 

IF documents were destroyed, it wasn't to save space.

Arlene is FOS, and I hope she gets caught.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

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I have NO DOUBT in my mind that Arlene has (probably on many occasions) shared information with "others" that she is now trying to hide behind "attorney client privilege".  Nothing will convince me that is not so. 

I hope Dr. Phil's attorneys can find something that proves it, and hang it in her azz.

JMO

http://www.facebook.com/ArubaFans

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Christine Baer Hoskinson
Loved the island, the beaches, and locals... but be careful here, we were robbed (passports, jewlry, cash, credit cards, camera and video equipment) and got to spend the second day of our trip with police... luckily we happened by Buster's Garage the first night we were here to watch the Cards game. We did not get to do everything we wanted during our vacation but we did return to Buster's and the locals who hang-out there went out of there way to make sure we enjoyed our stay.
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Anyone else wondering what I'm wondering after reading that?   hmmm   ::MonkeyQuestion::

Isn't Buster's Garage where the Walrus' son works?

I think (from pictures) he has worked there, but I know he works some at Moomba's too. 

It seems to me that some of the bartender's work at more than one place.

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1319840/noticia-reos-extranjeros-retornarian-sus-paises-reducir-hacinamiento-carceles

Google translation

Foreign prisoners would return to their countries to reduce overcrowding in prisons
Tuesday October 18, 2011

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The justice minister, Francisco Eguiguren, said Tuesday that about 2 000 foreign prisoners who have been detained for minor offenses, could be benefited by the commutation of their sentences or carrying out their sentences in their home country, according to a evaluates the executive proposal to alleviate overcrowding in prisons.

After sustaining the sector's budget for 2012 before the Budget Committee of Congress, Eguiguren explained that this measure would benefit known internally as 'burriers'.

"Implementing this measure would be to vacate a criminal, whose average holding capacity amounts to 2.000 inmates," he added.

According to Andina news agency, the Justice Minister said that to put this into practice will form a commission to study each case and will coordinate with embassies and consulates of the countries of origin for foreign inmates.

Meetings with diplomats
In that sense, Eguiguren announced that will hold a meeting in November with diplomatic representatives, to personally convey this proposal and gather suggestions for better implementation.

He recalled that while there are agreements in criminal matters signed with some countries, it requires addressing the complex problems in prisons, in this case related to foreign inmates.

DOES NOT APPLY TO DUTCH
The minister said there was no way this measure will benefit those offenders who committed murder as the Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot - or other serious crime such as kidnapping or terrorism.

Thanks grace-land!   ::MonkeyCool::

Wow, looks like someone bombed Colegio Arubano  ::MonkeyEek::

19 di october 2011 | ultimo incidente: 8 hora pasa | incidentenan registra for di 19 februari 2009: 8144
Bomberonan a sali pa bay paga candela na un trailer banda di Colegio Arubano San Nicolas

http://www.awe24.com/20111018/8734/Bomberonan_a_sali_pa_bay_paga_candela_na_un_trailer_banda_di_Colegio_Arubano (http://www.awe24.com/20111018/8734/Bomberonan_a_sali_pa_bay_paga_candela_na_un_trailer_banda_di_Colegio_Arubano)

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Peru to improve legal and humanitarian assistance for foreign prisoners
September 20, 2011

José Luis Pérez Guadalupe, President of the Peru’s National Penitentiary Institute (INPE) said he would be meeting with representatives from various countries, in order to examine how they can improve mechanisms for humanitarian assistance to the 1,400 foreign nationals held in prisons throughout Peru.

Pérez said that these prisoners come from 80 countries and more than 800 of them are still awaiting trial. There are an additional 300 foreigners on parole.

"This is an issue that in some respects is outside the powers of INPE and comprises also the Foreign Ministry. Within a week I will meet with two or three consuls, but if we consider that it is 80 countries, it's difficult to see of each of the 1,400 inmates’ cases, who are in prisons of the country," he said.

Speaking to Andina news agency, Pérez said the meeting, scheduled to take place on October 26, would attempt to establish better coordination in order to deal with cases with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

He explained that these would allow for foreign inmates to meet all or part of their sentence in their country of origin.

The head of INPE noted that these agreements are a good mechanism that would allow for foreign prisoners to be near family, but also helps to reduce overcrowding in prisons in Peru.

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http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-619-Peru-to-improve-legal-and-humanitarian-assistance-for-foreign-prisoners/

Some 2000 foreign inmates to face deportation

Lima, Oct. 19 (ANDINA). About 2000 foreign prisoners serving sentences in different Peruvian prisons for committing minor crimes would be granted the commutation of sentence or enforcement of the penalty in their native country, in order to ease prison overcrowding, Justice Minister Francisco Eguiguren said.

This measure would benefit drug couriers, who attempted to smuggle drugs through airports of the country using various methods.

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The plan is to create a commission that studies case by case and coordinates with embassies and consulates of the foreign inmates’ native countries.

In that sense, Eguiguren pointed out that in November he is expected to hold a meeting with the diplomatic representatives to discuss said proposal.

Eguiguren said that by no means will this measure benefit those offenders who committed murder or other serious crimes such as kidnapping or terrorism.

http://www.andina.com.pe/ingles/Noticia.aspx?Id=khUjjVFalDw=

I am thankful that the case against Joran van der Sloot has been turned over to another prosecutor but ... that December deadline that is looming ... that December deadline that at dictates a trial must begin or Joran is released is cause for concern.  IMO

My DIL was directed to the following article in a text/email today ... an article that  indicates that stuff may be going on behind the scenes within the Peruvian Justice System attempting to prevent justice from prevailing for Stephany Flores.

Janet

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JORAN VAN DER SLOOT FREE BY XMAS
August 18, 2011

The prime suspect in the NATALEE HOLLOWAY disappearance, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT may be freed from Peruvian prison by Christmas.
 
The Dutch thug who remains incarcerated in notorious hellhole Castro Castro prison for the murder of Stephany Flores may be free within months if prosecutors don’t move ahead with their case. And NOW Stephaney’s family fears that is indeed what will happen!
 
"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free," Ricardo Flores, Stephany's father, told CNN.
 
It also appears that there is some political payback for sloth-like due process directed at Ricardo Flores, a prominent Peruvian businessman and former elected official.

Flores' lawyer told El Comercio newspaper that prosecutors have all the evidence they need to convict, but have done nothing.  The attorney, Edward Alavrez, specifically targeted senior prosecutor Miriam Riveros Castellares.
 
"It's just irresponsible," Alvarez charged. "She's amassed all the files and is not taking into account the time. ... This case seems to matter very little to her."
 
Ricardo Flores told CNN that if she doesn't do something SOON, someone else should take charge over the heinous murder case.
 
"We're asking that either the prosecutor file charges or that authorities remove her from this case and name somebody else," he said.

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http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/joran-van-der-sloot-free-by-xmas

http://www.amigoe.com/english/87764-five-ministers-did-not-pass-the-screening

‘Five ministers did not pass the screening’     

MONDAY, 17 OCTOBER 2011 13:32

WILLEMSTAD — The members of the current government of Curaçao, Gerrit Schotte, Abdul Nasser El Hakim and Jacinta Constancia (all from MFK), Charles Cooper (MAN) and René Rosalia (PS) are apparently not eligible to be a minister. An ******* came to this conclusion in a confidential memorandum of October 27th last year to the then ad interim director of the Intelligence Service Curaçao (VDC), former Lieutenant Governor Lisa Dindial and others.

At the time, the particular ******* was instructed to screen the ministers Schotte, El Hakim, Constancia, Cooper and Rosalia. The memorandum is undoubtedly one of several drawn up by observers within the framework of the screening process of the first ministers of the country Curaçao. This memo for example does not mention Minister George Jamaloodin, Hensley Koeiman, Elmer ‘Kadè’ Wilsoe and Norman Girigorie. The information from the memorandum was eventually included in a final screening report from the members of the Schotte-cabinet. The Premier declared in the States that points, which were described in the report, could be contradicted and rectified.

The ministers in question were screened in conformity with three criteria. With this, it regards amongst others whether the candidates had committed a penal act in the past or participated with anti-democratic groupings or organizations that form a danger for the national security, while one also inquired into the financial and ‘secret personal’ behavior of the ministers in question. The inquiry yielded ‘facts and circumstances’ that possibly involve ‘security risks’. Therefore, the ministers had not passed the screening.

With regard to Schotte, the memorandum mentions he’s involved with numerous activities that ‘could lead to security risks’. For instance, the report mentions ‘extramarital relations’, that he ‘has secret agreements with various local and internal financers, who have close ties with persons such as Francesco Corallo on St. Maarten’, and that he has close ties with fellow party member El Hakim, who is a member of the Amel-movement in Lebanon that has bonds with the terrorist group Hezbollah.

The memorandum also includes the period in which Schotte on behalf of the MPK from Rignald Lak was entrusted with the portfolio of Tourism and Economic Development. According to this memorandum, during this period he helped third parties so a request could handled urgently. It regards a request from Institute Private Funds (SPF) Cori, of which his current colleague minister Charles Cooper is a member. According to the memorandum, Schotte had also performed illegal activities while he was a deputy by accepting 2 million guilders from executive Robby Dos Santos, who got himself talked about, in exchange for a large plot at Playa Abou. The memorandum also mentions a ‘case of forgery regarding an insurance claim with Fatum’ in connection with a burglary case.

Regarding Minister El Hakim, the memorandum mentions he has huge debts at local banks, that he has close ties with ‘questionable figures’ on St. Maarten, that he is an active member of the Amel-movement in Lebanon, which forms a coalition with the Future Movement Lebanon and the terrorist group Hezbollah. According to the memorandum, of which the Amigoe has a copy, Charles Cooper had lend the local investor Boy Luckert a helping hand, who is also his business partner but whose name cannot be found in the official documents. When Schotte was deputy, Cooper had also received an amount from Robby Dos Santos. Apparently, it regards an amount of 400,000 to acquire a large plot at Playa Abou.

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YW, texasmom!  And thank you for all of the infomative articles, comments, beautiful pictures of Natalee and Staphany that you post each day!   ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.diario.aw/2011/10/joran-sin-ninguna-posibilidad-di-worde-extradita/

Papiamentu translation:

joran without ninguna posibilidad of worde extradita

publication: wednesday, 19 october 2011.

categoria: general

oranjestad (aan): informacion cu we is hayando for of peru is indica cu 2000 preso foreigner will worde repatria, but in the list here the name of joran van der sloot do not aparece.

at peru joran is one murderer y this is piece gravemente on the posibilidad for one extradición. the medida here of repatriación is one medida of the gobierno peruvian cu have the aim of reduci the cantidad of presonan cu have in prisión y cu is trece cune cu the reducción of espacio in the celnan y además of esey the condicionnan of the jail more difficult.

the medida here will beneficia more tanto the so calling “burriers” cu is esnan cu owing to worde grab cu drugs at the aeropuertonan. the gobierno peruvian is in tramitenan cu the embahadanan of the paisnan concerni for so regulation con the proceso will sosode. the presonan acusa of asesinato, secuestro or terrorismo do not cay in the are here cu will can return at they country. this is the caso of joran van der sloot.

YW, grace-land!   ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.diario.aw/2011/10/aruba-tambe-lo-duna-atencion-e-siman-aki-na-e-tema-%E2%80%9Ctrafico-ilegal-di-sernan-humano%E2%80%9D/

Papiamentu translation:

aruba also will give atencion the week here at the exercise “trafico ilegal of sernan humano”

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publication: wednesday, 19 october 2011.

categoria: general

minister arthur dowers: lema: “habri do you wowo… (Open your eyes)”

oranjestad (aan) – minister of husticia mr. arthur dowers, owing to as one conferencia of prensa tuesday morning, in sitting-room of prensa of gobierno, relaciona cu owing to atencion cu will wordo give the week here, at the exercise “traficacion ilicito of personanan”, provided that conexion cu 18 of october cu is the day cu kingdom dutch is reconoce the mature here. was present also hof inspector of kpa sra. janet richardson-baars, coordinador for aruba of the departamento contra traficacion of person in we country, y sra. mr. caroline meaux, consehero on the exercise of traficacion ilegal of person, for ministerio of husticia. minister dowers owing to cuminza for splica cu day 20 of june of the year here at sint marten all minister of husticia, of kingdom dutch, esta of the netherlands, curacao, aruba y sint maarten owing to company one protocol or carta of entendimento, where owing to word cu they will take day 18 of october for give atencion at the exercise of “traficacion ilicito of hende”. the dignatario owing to tell cu prensa is much important in the proceso of concientizacion of we comunidad for thing is deal the fenomeno of traficacion of personanan in we country.

the mandatario owing to tell cu is conoci cu at europa, on the date here, they're dedica atencion at the exercise here, y dentro of mou owing to stay word cu not only will place this on paper, y trece in prensa, but also cu will take cierto pasonan cu will have to arrive at one best constitucion y one sistema of prevencion on the fenomeno here, cu is extremely important y cu is tumando lugar mundialmente.

the dignatario owing to indica cu the pace cu aruba owing to give is extremely important for give contenido at the mou, y because; minister the wanted owing to show on the compromiso cu people of aruba have for cu the exercise here in we country y in we region.

past owing to subraya cu at instant cu past owing to company the mou past owing to compromete at haci all posible for pasonan wordo take at aruba for combati the fenomeno here, y esey owing to haci cu we country owing to achieve reconocimento of departamento of estado of merca, for her trabao cu we country is haciendo where cu the is comunica cu the other partnernan of kingdom dutch more close of aruba, cu is sint maarten y curacao, for conhuntamente march the trayectoria for percura for they also can arrive at one dado instant at the same level cu aruba owing to arrive, on combatimento of trafico of being human in we country.

according the dignatario this is one exercise cu is stay live internacionalmente, comokiera cu the is one of the violacionnan of more flagrante of the derecho fundamental of the being human y one of the formanan more denigrante for a, at instant cu they're kite his freedom for use because; esclavo y haci cosnan more denigrante for one being human.

minister dowers owing to señala cu in we country much person is tell cu this do not one mature, but according the dignatario we have to is conciente cu if can is one mature at aruba, y as we eye y oreanan open, as is wordo show in the poster of promocion, cu will wordo present the dianan here cu will enfoca on the exercise menciona, because if know happen close we also, only we do not mire all hour y much trip we do not conciente of thing we have to look at.

the mandatario owing to indica cu at the momentonan here have conferencianan at europa is tumando lugar for give more atencion at the aspecto here, already cu at instant cu departamentonan of husticia, ministerionan of husticia y cuerpo policial owing to cuminza compronde the matter they owing to cuminza achieve also various caso.

exercise central the year here is stay, naturally, combatimento of the problematica here at europa y various organizacion cu is atende cu victimanan y posible victimanan of the traficacion ilegal of person.

minister dowers owing to indica cu thing is tumando lugar at europa, where the problem is mucho more big y more big cu in we region y we country, but equal we have to give more atencion at combatimento of this, y assure con for atende cu the victimanan cu have to is central.

aruba, provided that todo caso, owing to instrui his departamento encarga cu control of ilegalidad in we country, cu have to have one protocol specifico for atende cu one person cu posiblemente owing to become victima, or cu autoridadnan is conciente cu owing to become victima of trafico of person, if have the pruebanan, the regimen for deal they're completamente various, cu the person cu simplemente owing to scoge for arrive aruba, stay ilegal, y haci cosnan in we country cu is provided that pugna cu we leynan.

 ::MonkeyCool::

 :smt049

http://www.awe24.com/8744

Turista a descubri un curpa ta drief den lama banda di e boeinan dilanti Playa Linda y a bati alarma

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Thru translator:

tourist owing to descubri one curpa is drief in lama near of the boeinan fast beach linda y owing to beat alarma


15 hora happen come across, 20 of october 2011 06:37

diahuebs morning early owing to enter informe of cu one tourist owing to descubri one curpa is drief in lama near of the boeinan y owing to beat alarma, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; bombero at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come constata cu already end voluntarionan owing to saca the curpa for of lama. is deal here of one tourist masculino but at the momentonan ey not can owing to succeed saca afo is that the is. dr. dassen owing to present at the sitio y owing to constata dead, owing to avisa all autoridad competente of the caso here. here one rato more detaye.

http://www.awe24.com/20111019/8739/Cliente_ta_haya_un_paki_di_UPS_despues_di_2_ana_y_5_luna_cu_nan_a_mande_pe

Papiamentu translation:

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cliente is achieve one package of u.p.s. after of 2 year y 5 month cu they owing to mande pe for of u.s.a.

1 day happen come across, 19 of october 2011 12:21

increible the package here was 2 year y casi 5 month because; abandoned at u.p.s. aruba y never the cliente owing to being informa of esey barely week happen they owing to yame for informe tocante this. abuse or bad servicio? the cliente owing to stay of bay reclama at u.p.s. internacionalmente. the cliente owing to stay very disgusta for her tardansa exagera here.

http://www.awe24.com/20111019/8739/Cliente_ta_haya_un_paki_di_UPS_despues_di_2_ana_y_5_luna_cu_nan_a_mande_pe

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Must have put that package in the evidence drawer  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8399826

Movie about local murder mystery premieres
Friday, October 21, 2011

HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Twenty-eight years after her death, the founder of Texas Equusearch watched a movie on Thursday inspired on his daughter's and others unsolved murders.

"Texas Killing Fields" is a crime film inspired by the unsolved murders in Galveston County in 1983. The bodies of several young girls were found along Interstate 45 near Calder Road in League City.

One of women found was Tim Miller's daughter, Laura. On Thursday, Miller joined others at the film's premiere at the Edwards Greenway Grand Palace Stadium Theater. He says while he's not happy the film was made without any of the families' input, he is hoping the movie can bring some attention to the unsolved murders.
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 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.mylifetime.com/movies/natalee-holloway

movies
Natalee Holloway

Upcoming Airdates:
Wed Oct 26 at 8 PM
Thu Oct 27 at 12 AM

Starring: Amy Gumenick, Grant Show, Tracy Pollan Genre: True Crime

Teenager Natalee Holloway vanished in 2005 while visiting Aruba on a senior class trip. In a passionate and relentless effort to discover the truth behind her daughter’s disappearance, Beth Holloway captured the nation’s attention by working tirelessly to solve the mystery that shattered her family’s life. Today, Holloway continues to speak publicly about the potential dangers of international travel. Her resolve and unwavering strength are at the center of this emotional story that takes viewers behind the headlines and into the heart of an extraordinary woman. The movie, about a mother's search for truth and justice, is based on the book "Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith" by Beth Holloway.

See the sequel to the movie, "Justice for Natalee Holloway," which continues the search for truth in Natalee's disappearance.

View the Holloway family photo album to see pictures of Natalee before she disappeared.

Read an interview with Beth Holloway, Natalee's mother.

See photos of the case in the Natalee Holloway true story gallery.

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 ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks grace-land!   ::MonkeyKiss::

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Happy Birthday Natalee

comment added...

http://www.awe24.com/20111020/8744/Turista_a_descubri_un_curpa_ta_drief_den_lama_banda_di_e_boeinan_dilanti_Playa

Papiamentu translation:

Djuliscka Peña
wait for cu this not become one another caso misterioso for aruba.

http://www.ksn.com/content/news/also/story/Controversial-Texas-Killing-Fields-movie-opens/y-c_hRrv0E66dJeKAAyoxA.cspx

Controversial 'Texas Killing Fields' movie opens

HOUSTON, Texas (NBC News) – “Texas Killing Fields," a movie about the dozens of bodies that have been found outside Texas City in the past 40 years, opens in the Houston area Friday.

For Texas Equusearch founder Tim Miller, this movie is personal. His daughter, Laura Miller, was abducted and murdered in 1984. Her body was found in the area. He had his concerns about the movie.

"I'm hoping that they haven't exploited some of these cases for their own financial gain in something that's really not going to be of any real value to these cases," Miller said.

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 ::MonkeyQuestion::

http://www.eenvandaag.nl/weblogs/post/32425

Google translation:

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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/02/15/watts-up-with-this

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Just sayin'

Dear Tim‏
 
10:45 PM 
Reply  ▼
Carpe
To tim.miller@texasequusearch.org

Trashing Beth Holloway was so unwise of you.
I hope you fall off the Earth!!!!!!!!
You pathetic silly little man.

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Clean up on Aruba beach get that Renfro outta bed for a photo op stat

http://texasequusearch.org/2011/10/cbs-48-hours-interview-of-tim-miller-captain-brian-goetschius-mike-land-and-two-victims-family-members-air-date-102211-900-p-m-cdt1000-p-m-est/

CBS’ 48 Hours Interview of Tim Miller, Captain Brian Goetschius, Mike Land, and Two Victim’s Family Members

— Air Date: 10/22/11, 9:00 p.m. CDT/10:00 p.m. EST

Posted on 17. Oct, 2011 by smckinney.

10/17/11 — In anticipation of the upcoming movie about the Texas Killing Fields, CBS’ 48 Hours wanted the real story from the people who lived it.  Tim Miller was interviewed by CBS’ Erin Moriarty at length. Tim Miller’s daughter, Laura, was one of the four girls found in the location known as The Killing Fields.  Heidi Fye, Jane Doe and Janet Doe are the other three girls found there.  All four cases are unsolved, along with the murders of @ least 30 other girls along the I-45 Corridor.  Additionally, 48 Hours interviewed Captain Brian T. Goetschius and Mike Land (Retired) of the Texas City Police Department, along with some of the victims’ family members.  The show will air on October 22, 2011 at 9:00 p.m. CDT/10:00 p.m. EST on CBS.  Please see the slideshow below of photographs taken during the interviews.

Sheesh... I was ticked when I wrote that. I don't like people hammering on Beth. She's been through enough.

Good to see you Carpe!

You too KTF!

Great too see you Klaas. Hope all is well in SoCal. Natalee Holloway and the Monkey's are never far from my mind. What's the deal with the two leprechauns? They still scared to come to America for trial.. ::MonkeyHaHa::

First post in awhile and I got booted into the matrix....ahhhhhhhhhhhh... ::MonkeyEek::

I still get mad every time I think about it.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

If I thought Tim Miller was man enough to read his email without having one of his office ladies screen it, I probably would have emailed him too.

I don't know if you remember your comment about what you might do if you received a donation envelope...and what I said...but I still feel the same way about that now as I did then.   ::MonkeyWink::

I don't know why I put myself through it, but I listened to the entire SW show from Feb 2010 that I'd posted a link to today. I couldn't remember what else the show was about that Tim Miller made the statements about the DNA in the fish trap (that it took him TWO YEARS to say)...so I listened again while I did some housework.  The whole time when certain things were said, I remembered what was said in the Beth bash show a few months later.  HOW DARE THEY!

 :smt096

By the time it was over my blood was boiling...but I made major headway with the housework.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Just so I'm not misunderstood...

I do realize that TES is not Tim Miller alone. 

There are many TES volunteers that unselfishly sacrifice to search for the missing, and I do admire and respect their efforts. 

I'm sure the donations I could make wouldn't make a difference anyway.

http://www.diario.aw/2011/10/homber-haya-hoga-den-lama-dilanti-playa-linda/

Papiamentu translation:

man achieve hoga in lama fast beach linda

publication: saturday, 22 october 2011.

categoria: general

oranjestad(aan)– diahuebs morning casi 6 or y mey, police of north owing to bay at the sea fast of beach linda for one caso of hogamento. at the sitio owing to resulta cu one tourist muhe owing to achieve one curpa of one man in water. past owing to wordo saca after for two tourist. hour cu polisnan owing to arrive they can owing to notice cu he not was give sign of life. the had his sportbroek dress y his slofnan was at his leg. the had one banchi of holiday inn hotel. police owing to place the manager of holiday at height. dr. dassen owing to constata dead for 7’or of he maximiliano soto reyes. the doctor not can owing to tell directamente if is deal of one dead natural. the curpa owing to wordo confisca for autopsia y recherche of north is follow cu the investigacion.

I am not sure what this says, but I'm not sure how the police decided that he had no sign of life (on arrival), without turning him over and cleaning the sand out of his mouth.  No one must have even tried to resuscitate him.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good morning!   :sunny: I'm sorry I missed seeing you last night Carpe and KTF.  Please drop in again soon.  Better yet, pull up a key board and stay a while.  I miss ya'll.  We need justice  for Natalee and Stephany and you two are part of the strong support for that.  I know you'll never forget.   ::justice2NJ:: 

http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/october_20__2011

October 20, 2011 The Morning News

Front Page and Page 2

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New emoticon  ::witch:: .  Looks like someone used Renho's likeness.  JMHO   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyWitch1::

http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/october_13__2011

October 13, 2011 The Morning News

Page 4


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bout time you kicked some dust off and come round here again......miss ya good buddy

KFT!!!!!!!

 ::Baseball::


trying to find some highchairs so the jury can see those leprechauns when they take the stand!!!!

Hi ya' snoopy!   ::dogwag::  I see you up there!  Hope all is well. ::bee::

AN APPEAL?

Considering Beth Holloway and John Q. Kelly only had less than three weeks notice of the hearing regarding Natalee's father to have her declared legally dead ... could it be that an appeal be forthcoming ... an appeal of the judge's denial of Beth's request for delay in proceedings?

Janet

+++++

Dave Files Petition in June

Judge to decide soon whether to proceed with declaring Mountain Brook's Natalee Holloway dead
Published: Friday, September 23, 2011, 10:56 AM
Updated: Friday, September 23, 2011, 11:37 AM

<snipped>

The petition to have Natalee officially declared dead was filed in June by her father, Dave Holloway. The father has continued to pay his daughter's insurance and other expenses and wants to transfer to Natalee's brother, Matt, some $2,000 Dave Holloway had set aside for his daughter's college education.

A lawyer for Beth Holloway, Natalee's mother, asked Probate Judge Alan King for a continuance on the initial hearing set for today on the father's petition. King denied the request for a 30-day delay.

<snipped>

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/09/post_675.html


Beth Served Notice in September

Judge weighs bid to declare missing Ala. teen dead
PHILLIP RAWLS, Associated Press
Published 12:40 p.m., Friday, September 23, 2011

<snipped>

DeBardeleben complained that Dave Holloway never told his ex-wife that he was seeking a declaration of death, and she learned about it when a process server "posing as a fan" delivered legal papers to her in Georgia while she was at a speaking engagement.

Dave Holloway said he learned about his wife's objections from a statement she released to the media Thursday.

<snipped>

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Judge-weighs-bid-to-declare-missing-Ala-teen-dead-2185553.php


Beth Opposes Petition

Beth Holloway opposes petition to declare Natalee dead
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 12:42 PM PDT
Updated: Sep 22, 2011 12:47 PM PDT
 
BIRMINGHAM, AL (WBRC) - Beth Holloway will oppose the petition filed by Dave Holloway to declare their daughter Natalee legally dead, said Beth Holloway's spokesperson Sunny Tillman on Thursday.

Dave Holloway filed a petition in a Jefferson County probate court in June 2011 to have his daughter declared legally dead. The petition will be heard in probate court in Birmingham tomorrow.

"Beth intends to oppose Dave's inexplicable effort to have Natalee declared dead," her attorney John Q. Kelly said today, according to a release sent by Tillman.

"Beth gave birth to and raised Natalee, and will always hope and pray for Natalee's safe return. If Dave seeks closure on such a personal and sensitive matter, it should be respected, but not imposed upon Beth in such an adversarial and public manner," Kelly said

<snipped>

http://www.wsfa.com/story/15526985/beth-holloway-opposes-petition-to-declare-natalee-dead


Beth Requests Adjournment of Hearing

Natalee Holloway's Mom Still Hoping She Is Alive
Sept. 23, 2011

<snipped>

Kelly and the girl's mother, Beth Holloway, did not attend a court hearing today on a petition brought by Natalee's father Dave Holloway to have her declared dead. Beth Holloway and Kelly had previously scheduled travel plans.

"We had made an application for an adjournment so we could have Beth there to testify and to prepare proper opposition for evidence for the court hearing," Kelly said.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/natalee-holloways-mom-clings-hope-daughter-alive/story?id=14591709


Judge Rejects Application for Adjournment of Hearing

September 23, 2011 11:51 AM
Judge rejects delay in Natalee Holloway case

(AP)  BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — A judge has refused to delay a court hearing on a request by Natalee Holloway's father to have her declared dead six years after she disappeared in Aruba.

An attorney for Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway, sought the delay Friday because she could not attend the hearing. She was giving a speech in California.  But probate Judge Alan King said she had more than two weeks' notice about the hearing.

<snipped>

King said he would rule later on whether to proceed with the process for a declaration of death.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/23/ap/business/main20110733.shtml


Judge to Decide on Petition

Judge to decide soon whether to proceed with declaring Mountain Brook's Natalee Holloway dead
Published: Friday, September 23, 2011, 10:56 AM
Updated: Friday, September 23, 2011, 11:37 AM

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- A Jefferson County judge said he would decide later today or early next week if a petition to officially declare Natalee Holloway dead should proceed, after the father tearfully described efforts to find his missing daughter.

<snipped>

If King allows the case to proceed, notices will be published seeking proof that Natalee is still alive, and a hearing to review that information will be held, probably in early 2012.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/09/post_675.html


Judge Rules in Favor of Petition

Jefferson County judge rules request to officially declare Natalee Holloway dead may proceed (video)
Published: Friday, September 23, 2011, 3:17 PM
Updated: Friday, September 23, 2011, 4:12 PM

<snipped>

King ordered two notices to be published in a local newspaper seeking proof that Holloway is still alive. A hearing will be held at least 12 weeks after that for King to make the final official determination if she is alive.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/09/jefferson_county_judge_rules_r.html

s.t.

Just in Case

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 231-232: I can't say for sure if we'll ever know that answer to whether my daughter is alive or not.  I know it doesn't look good.  But just as that old metal spiral staircase rose from the ashes when our lake house burned down, so too faith stands strong in the remains of this devastating loss.  And just as my Dad built another house around that staircase, I will build another life around hope and faith.  It won't ever be the same.  But I pray that it will, at the very least, be useful.

The hope that filled Natalee's heart fills mine, and I will press on.  Faith got me up this morning, and faith will see me through tomorrow.  And the next day.  And the next.  I love Natalee and miss her very much.  And still fantasize about the possibility that one day a call will come telling me that I need to go to the island.  To get her.  I want to always be prepared for that imaginary call.  So I keep my passport with me at all times.  And right next to mine is Natalee's.

Just in case.

Sliver of Hope

Natalee Holloway's Mom Still Hoping She Is Alive
Sept. 23, 2011

"Even if it's a one in a million chance, she wants to always have that sliver of hope," said Beth Holloway's attorney, John Q. Kelly, after a court hearing today over the contentious petition.

"She doesn't want to be in the position where Natalee could show up one day and ask, 'Why did you give up on me?'" he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/natalee-holloways-mom-clings-hope-daughter-alive/story?id=

        
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 ::MonkeyDevil::

Breaks my heart that Dave has now made Natalee's probable death an emotional and now legal battlefield. One has to wonder if Robin is pulling his puppet strings again?

La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club = lacabanabrc.com

COOPERATIEVE VERENIGING LA CABANA BEACH & RACQUET CLUB
 
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BOARD MEMBERS/AUTHORIZED PERSONS
HODGES, BRENDA;
   
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Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   21 FEBRUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
DOCTROW, MARTIN BRUCE;
   
Born in   U.S.A., HARRISBURG on 19 JULY 1946
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   20 OCTOBER 2009
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
WEVER, RANDOLPH ANTHONY;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 12 JULY 1956
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SECRETARY
Effective   21 FEBRUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
COOPER, GILBERT ARTHUR;
   
Born in   U.S.A., NEW YORK on 10 DECEMBER 1942
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   VICE-PRESIDENT
Effective   20 OCTOBER 2009
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
MOSCONI, WILLIAM PETER;
   
Born in   U.S.A., NEW YORK on 31 JANUARY 1936
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   PRESIDENT
Effective   20 OCTOBER 2009
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
POZNIAK, RANDY THEODORE;
   
Born in   U.S.A., MINNESOTA on 23 JANUARY 1951
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   TREASURER
Effective   21 FEBRUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
HULTMAN, CARL ARTHUR;
   
Born in   U.S.A., MASSACHUSETTS on 09 MARCH 1953
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   10 DECEMBER 2008
Authority   RESTRICTED
 

 ::rhino::

However ... Dave is not a puppet.  He has the ability to make his own choices ... to make a stand when it comes to the mother of his daughter..

Hi none!  How are you doing.  I miss ya.

Janet

++++++

Beth Holloway opposes petition to declare Natalee dead
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 12:42 PM PDT
Updated: Sep 22, 2011 12:47 PM PDT

<snippped>
 
"Beth intends to oppose Dave's inexplicable effort to have Natalee declared dead," her attorney John Q. Kelly said today, according to a release sent by Tillman.

"Beth gave birth to and raised Natalee, and will always hope and pray for Natalee's safe return. If Dave seeks closure on such a personal and sensitive matter, it should be respected, but not imposed upon Beth in such an adversarial and public manner," Kelly said

<snipped>

http://www.wsfa.com/story/15526985/beth-holloway-opposes-petition-to-declare-natalee-dead

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-not-eligible-for-get-out-of-jail/ROYXod835UyvlfHAv7VMbw.cspx

Van der Sloot not eligible for get out of jail free card

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  Peru's prisons are clogged with foreigners...many doing time on drug possession.  Not surprisingly, Peruvian officials would like to ship those people back to their home countries.

Peruvian Justice Minister Francisco Eguiguren says about 2 000 foreign prisoners who have been detained for minor offenses, could have their sentences commuted or be extradited to their home countries to serve their sentence.

But they're making clear the proposal wouldn't include people charged with murder, terrorism or other serious crimes.  In other words, people like Joran van der Sloot.

The Dutch national is waiting trial on murder/robbery charges and there has been consistent speculation he's trying to do a deal to serve any sentence back in The Netherlands. 

The body of 21 year old student Stephany Flores was found in van der Sloot's Lima hotel room. Van der Sloot had fled to neighboring Chile where he was arrested and returned to Lima.  The subsequent investigation and interrogation prompted a variety of procedural appeals...all of which have been denied by local courts.  He claims he killed Flores in a fit of rage after she found material relating to Natalee Holloway on his laptop.  Police say it was robbery and murder...that the Holloway material was accessed a day before Flores died.
 ::snipping2::

THEY WERE VERY BUSY AT SM & Freebirds blog - we watched them for a long time.

La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club
Helen Werleman & Manager of the Year,
http://bb.visitaruba.com/f61/maureen-martinez-helen-werleman-walter-kelly-recognized-la-cabana-10976/


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DESTINY'S CONTACT IN ARUBA:
it's Aureen werleman at Diario
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4633.msg711483#msg711483



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General Manager
Joe Najjar
Ext 6101
Fax (297) 587-0848
http://www.lacabanabrc.com/members/directory.shtml

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AHATA Elects A New Board
Business December 13th, 2007

Palm Beach – A new Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association board was elected during the recent AHATA General Assembly, held at the Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino.
The new officers of the board were elected from a slate of candidates presented by a nominating committee headed by General Manager Paul Gielen, Renaissance Aruba Resort, and independent consultant Jaap Beaujon
The election process was overseen by Dr. Ryan Peterson of the Universidad di Aruba.
The new board of the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association consists of the following eight members: Rick Zeolla, General Manager, Marriott Aruba Resort; Eduardo De Veer, Developer, Meta Corp; Scott Allen, General Manager, Hyatt Regency; Guillermo Valencia, General Manager Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort; Gary Jutz, General Manager, Radisson Aruba Resort & Casino; Matt Balcik, General Manager, Westin Aruba Resort; Peter Steinmetz, Director, Aruba Airport Authority; David Smith, VP Public Relations, Valero Aruba Refinery.
Two board candidates, Joe Najjar, General Manager, La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club and Andres Pichardo, Senior VP Sales and Marketing, Occidental Grand Aruba, remained available in case of seat vacancy on the board and were invited to attend all meetings effective immediately.
Rob Smith, President and CEO of the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association reports the new board will conduct its first meeting this week, with hotelier Ewald Biemans, Bucuti Beach Resort & Tara Suites, as Chairman of the Board.
http://www.aruba.com/news/business/ahata-elects-a-new-board/

for you Holland:

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Orietta Mansur, Dilma Arends Geerman, Anita van der Sloot

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10724.msg1465501#msg1465501

 :rendeer: ::MonkeyWink::

http://elistas.egrupos.net/lista/dovinet/archivo/indice/1/msg/46/
 ::snipping2::
186. Michelle Lejuez-Kelly
187. Nethaniel Lejuez

http://www.yasni.de/lejuez/person+information/profil
 ::snipping2::
Bebo: Michelle Lejuez-Kelly
female, Age: 29

http://www.harvestministries.nl/gemeenten/christengemeente-harvest-regio-zoetermeer/

Info: Nethaniël en Michelle Lejuez

Now we see a pattern emerge - cuz Chris Lejuez (brother of Helen if I remember correctly) is representing Gary Giordano.



Rudolf H Vrolijk
Worked at Citicorp N.Y (Vice President)Studied Banking and Finance at NYU
Lives in Oranjestad, Netherlands Antilles
Knows English, Spanish, Dutch and 3 others
From Port Jefferson, New York
http://www.facebook.com/vrolijkr


Education and Work
Employers   

Citicorp N.Y
Vice President · New York, New York

Bankers Trust
Vice President · New York, New York
Fairhaven Trade Ltd
CEO · Zürich, Switzerland
Commodity Trade Petroleum refined product (Gasoline, Jet Fuel, ULSD, Bitumen)

Family
Michelle Lejuez
Sister
   http://facebook.com/michelle.lejuez


I wonder if they are related?????


 Helen Lejuez (Attorney for Beth Twitty)

CAPS witness went to Helen LeJuez & she set up a meeting for him with Clyde Burke from ALE

ART WOOD: In August, the Diario tip line recorded an after hours call from a woman. She advised that there was a crooked cop, his name was Halley and he took a body from the sand prior to the search. The woman said that Halley knows Paulus Vandersloot. Art copied that tape and gave it to Helen Lejuez who in turn gave it to the prosecutor to be entered into evidence. In September, Dave Holloway questioned Dompig regarding this tape and the police vehicle that he had seen. Dompig and the investigative team acted like they never heard of either account.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2269.msg295057#msg295057

Judge J.S. Kuiperdal
J S. Kuiperdal
Firm: C. Helen Werleman-Lejuez
Address: PO Box 1354
Italiestraat 12

Judge J.S. Kuiperdal
J S. Kuiperdal
Firm: C. Helen Werleman-Lejuez
Address: PO Box 1354
Italiestraat 12
http://pview.findlaw.com/view/2495666_1
AND
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2989.510;wap2

La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club
Helen Werleman & Manager of the Year,
http://bb.visitaruba.com/f61/maureen-martinez-helen-werleman-walter-kelly-recognized-la-cabana-10976/

http://www.dushi-curacao.info/news-aruba/giordano-opnieuw-voor-rechter.html

Google translation:

GIORDANO AGAIN RIGHT

POSTED IN NEWS ARUBA

ORANGE CITY - The American Gary Giordano (50) Monday to appear before the magistrate. It is because his detention by 60 days off. The Public Prosecutor (OM) is expected to re-apply for an extension of his detention.

Extending this time with more than 30 days. The new lawyer of the accused, Chris Lejuez, had previously hinted that he was a request for extension of detention will challenge. A request of his other lawyer, Michael Lopez, earlier this month at Giordano at liberty to get rejected by the court. The suspect sits down since August 5 when authorities arrested him as he tried to leave the country. He is suspected of involvement in the disappearance and presumed death of his companion Robyn Gardner also American (35). The case gets a lot of media attention, especially in the United States, where a comparison is drawn with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005. After a night out during her vacation in Aruba Natalee disappeared without a trace. She was last seen with Joran van der Sloot, who remains the prime suspect in this case. Joran is currently in the Peruvian prison on suspicion of killing Stephany Flores, a student who last year on May 30 in the room of Joran was found dead.


Economic impacts

By the media coverage of the disappearance case Gardner are some American journalists traveled to Aruba to this report on the matter. Similarly, radio station WTOP, which include the U.S. capital Washington to hear. Reporter Del Waters doing cursory research on the economic impact that this second disappearance on our island. He interviews including tourists, who indicate wanting to know what happened. In one of the interviews he leaves a restaurant owner to speak, and they were not to want to be named. Waters asks for the reaction when the owner learned that another American tourist went missing. "I was like, no again. We can not. "According to Waters, the island finally recovered from the effects of the Holloway disappearance. The Aruban economy by the new disappearance may be hit again. "And 70 to 80 percent for American tourists," stresses Waters.


Traceless

Gardner disappeared on Aug. 2 near Baby Beach. According to Giordano are on that day after four o'clock in the afternoon to snorkel along the sea behind the former Nanki Country Club. The pair touched by the accused in trouble by the "rough seas" and he managed with difficulty to reach land. When he learned that Gardner was not with him and he could not find her. Or so says Giordano different explanations. He hit the alarm at Rum Reef restaurant where previously they had been together at the bar, so you can see the published security images of the restaurant. Despite intensive searches, both at sea and on land, but no trace was found of Gardner. Authorities relied not the story of Giordano and kept him several days later when he tried to leave the country. Approximately two weeks later, extensive searches on land held by the police, fire and police recruits. Again, this yielded no evidence. Earlier this month, a special search dog team from the Netherlands and was flown over one week found in the coastal area where Gardner was last seen. This did not directly discoveries, but the findings shall be reported to the Public after which it will decide on further action.

Article Source:  AMIGOE

I know it's only $150 but I like seeing them having to pay something  ::MonkeyCool::

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Thanks Klaas and anonymous monkey!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Probably just added to their mile long tab with the attorneys, but I'm glad to see them pay something too!

 ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.24ora.com/entretenimento-mainmenu-12/38629-switch-ta-presenta-su-ultimo-programa-di-tv-pa-e-temporada-di-ana-satanismo-na-aruba.html

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Papiamentu translation:

switch is present his ultimo declaration of policy of tv for her season of aña: satanismo at aruba?

sunday, 23 october 2011 23:59

have one fenomeno new or one trend new in we comunidad aruban? for some year end is hear of the possible existencia of some culto y secta at aruba. but what one secta is be y con the is funciona? have one problematica andando of hobenan cu is inicia they self in ocultismo y sectanan without know the consecuencianan drastico cu this have cun'e.

in the show we will splica kico is ocultismo y kico one secta is, because; also will have testimonio regal of one ex-miembro of one secta satanico cu owing to inicia his self at aruba y owing to experiencia ritualnan cu beast y human y also of type sexual. the show here is uno much important for alerta we young y parents of the peligernan cu have ey fo y cu much young for one or another motibo is buscando famianan alternative.

switch will cuminsa his season new at month of march 2012 cu more topico regal y fill cu informacion. the team completo of switch is gradici all person y organizacion cu of one as or another owing to coopera cu we.

*lo can look at the show online na: facebook/switcharuba *e contenido of the declaration of policy is basa on investigacion for informa y educa we comunidad. switch is gradici the next personanan for colabora cu the investigacion: rene ridderstaat fejite zijlstra stephanie m. croes nicolas ordoñez john van der biezen gardenia kock

*wak we promo/trailer: http://vimeo.com/30935552

or bay at www.vimeo.com, search: switcharuba (promo show 6).

http://www.facebook.com/switcharuba

Maybe the show will be on VIMEO eventually?  Not sure I want to see it (skeeeerrry), but it could be interesting.  jmo

 ::MonkeyEek::

It looks like this is the page where the Switch shows are uploaded.  There's a full show there now about sugar momma's/daddy's.

http://vimeo.com/user6644822

http://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2011/10/shame_and_scandal_in_the_famil.php

Shame and scandal in the family: Curaçao - 21-10-2011

Things have not been going well between the Dutch government and its former colony Curaçao. The problems started when home affairs minister Piet Hein Donner who is also responsible for kingdom relations asked former GroenLinks leader Paul Rosenmöller and former ING board member Cees Maas to investigate allegations of corruption on the island.

In 2010 the Caribbean island, the largest of the Antilles island group, was given autonomous status within the Dutch kingdom but under certain circumstances the Dutch government can still intervene in island’s governmental affairs.

Corruption

The main protagonists of the very public row on the island are prime minister Gerrit Schotte and the director of the island’s central bank Emsley Tromp, who are accusing each other of corruption.

Rosenmöller and Maas interviewed around forty officials for their report which came out at the beginning of October. It found that there are serious doubts about the integrity of the prime minster and that ‘several of the ministers would not have been nominated to their posts had they been properly screened beforehand’.

The report recommended government intervention if Curaçao does not install an independent commission to investigate the integrity of the ministers. A delegation of six parliamentary party chairmen this week visited the island this week to drive home the message.

Secret deals

Prime minister Schotte has rejected the report as ‘gossip mongering’ but since then other facts have come to light, notably through a leaked secret service memo published by Amigoe, one of the island’s papers this week.

It revealed that Schotte had been having ‘several affairs’ and ‘secret deals with money lenders on the island and abroad who are said to have ties with alleged mafia member and casino boss Francesco Corello in the island of St Maarten.’

Minister Abdul Nasser El Hakim is heavily in debt with local banks, according to the memo, and is alleged to be an active member of the Lebanon based Amal movement which has close ties with Hezbollah, Amigoe writes.

The question is: should the Netherlands intervene if Curaçao persists in its refusal to tackle the integrity of its government?

White finger

The Volkskrant asked Sheldry Osepa the minister plenipotentiary of Curaçao who warned Dutch MPs to be reticent. ‘We have to avoid pointing the white finger’, she said. ‘The parliament has debated the report for sixteen hours and has decided to support the government. (..) The Netherlands should let Curaçao mind its own business. There are plenty of capable people here to govern this country’.

Professor of Caribbean history Gert Oostindie sees things differently. ‘The Netherlands is right to have asked for an investigation. It would have been better if the politicians of Curaçao had initiated it themselves at an earlier stage. I don’t hold an opinion on the integrity of the ministers; I have not done an investigations and haven’t seen any proof. But an investigation is necessary, if only to clear their names’.

The paper also comments that the government should act. The relationship with the island has always been one of blowing hot and blowing cold, it writes. ‘It is now time for a cold blast’, it concludes.

Independence

Elsevier columnist Paul Lieben would like to see total independence for Curaçao. But, he writes, ‘It is probably that total chaos will ensue. The economic position of the islands is not good and the will to cooperate is almost non existent. The United States does not like to see trouble in its backyard and wants the Netherlands to keep a hand in.

The French model would be one to emulate, he writes. ‘Their overseas territories are little pieces of France with the same legal, political and governmental structures. It might be more expensive but it would stop the rot that characterises the relationship between the Netherlands and the former Dutch Antilles’.

IMO you know when you hire Joe, you are guilty, lmffao --whoops/IMO

 :smt045

OMG lots of documents filed.  What to do, what to do, which to buy, LOLOL      ::MonkeyWitch1::

10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO.7: TO PRECLUDE ARGUMENT, TESTIMONY OR OTHER EVIDENCE REGARDING ALL ISSUES OF DEFAMATION, FALSE LIGHT, AND INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, FRAUD, NEGLIGENT MISREPRESEN   39   $9.53

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO.6: TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF THE REPUBLICATION CLAIMS BECAUSE SUCH CLAIMS ARE BARRED BY LIMITATIONS; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT THEREOF; PROPOSED ORDE   85   $12.75

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 22 TO EXCLUDE ALL OPINIONS AND TESTIMONY FROM DEFENDANT?S RETAINED EXPERT JAMES CLEMENTE; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA 0. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   31   $8.97

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 21 TO EXCLUDE THE TRANSCRIPT AND ANY RELATED EVIDENCE AND/OR TESTIMONY OF THE WIRETAP IN THE ARUBAN POLICE VAN THAT PLAINTIFFS AND JORAN VAN DER SLOOT WERE IN; DECLARA   37   $9.39

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 20 TO EXCLUDE IMPROPER, NON-RELEVANT AND PREJUDICIAL PHOTOGRAPHS; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBIT   24   $8.48

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 19 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE AND/OR TESTIMONY OF JAMIE SKEETERS? INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WAS SAID IN THE SECRETLY RECORDED INTERVIEW BETWEEN JAMIE SKEETERS AND PLAINTIFF DEEPA   34   $9.18

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 18 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE RELATING TO ANGELINA REPPAS-PONSON'S STAFFING AGENCY IN ARUBA: DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   37   $9.39

   10/24/2011   CIVIL DEPOSIT   1   $7.50

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. I: 3ENRAL AND PUNITIVE DAMAGES FOR )EFAMATION, FALSE LIGHT AND NFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS DUE TO PLAINTIFFS? FAILURE TO DEMAND RETRACTION PURSUANT TO ALIFORNIA CI   14   $7.78

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFF& MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 7 TO EXCLUDE THE LIFETIME MOVIE, TTNATALEE HOLLOWAY: BASED ON A TRUE STORY AND ANY RELATED TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   20   $8.20

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 6 TO EXCLUDE ALL EVIDENCE, TESTIMONY AND/OR REFERENCE REGARDING DEEPAKS INTERNET CHAT STATEMENT THAT NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S HANDS WERE INSIDE HIS JEANS; DECLARATION OF JOS   20   $8.20

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 5 TO EXCLUDE ALL EVIDENCE, TESTIMONY AND/OR REFERENCES REGARDING THE UNRELATED LAWSUIT PREVIOUSLY FILED BY THE PLAINTIFFS IN ARUBA; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EX   20   $8.20

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 4 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE RELATING TO PLAINTIFFS' USE OF PROSTITUTION SERVICES IN ARUBA; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   31   $8.97

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 3 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF AN ALLEGED TEXT V1ESSAGE FROM SATISH KALPOE TO JORAN VAN DER SLOOT ON MAY 31, 2005, AT 06:49:03; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBIT   26   $8.62

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFF & MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 2 TO EXCLUDE PHONE RECORDINGS ALLEGEDLY TAKEN BY JAMIE SKEETERS AND ANY RELATED TESTIMONY OR EVIDENCE; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   22   $8.34

   10/24/2011   MOTION IN LIMLNE NO.3: TO PRECLUDE EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED MISAPPROPRIATION OF LIKENESS, INCLUDING SKEETERS? ALLEGED RECORDING OF DEEPAK KALPOF WITHOUT HIS CONSENT, AND DAMAGES RELATED THERETO; MEMORANDUM   39   $9.53

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS PHILLIP C. MCGRAW, CBS PARAMOUNT DOMESTIC TELEVISION, AND PETESKI PRODUCTIONS, INC.'S REPLY TO PLAINTIFFS? RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS? MOTION TO COMPEL DEPOSITION PRODUCTION AND RESUME THE DEPO   11   $7.57

   10/24/2011   DECLARATION OF NANCY W. HAMILTON IN SUPPORT OF MOTIONS IN LIMINE ON BEHALF OF DEFENDANTS   3   $7.50

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO: REGARDING USE OF PLAINTIFF?S EXHIBITS 74, 183 AND 183-A AT TRIAL; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES TN SUPPORT THEREOF; [PROPOSED] ORDER   8   $7.50
   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 16 TO PRECLUDE EXPERT TESTIMONY FROM NON-DESIGNATED WITNESSES; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT THEREOF; [PROPOSED] ORDER   8   $7.50

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANT'S MOTION TN LIMINE NO. 15 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE NOT PRODUCED N DISCOVERY; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT THEREOF; [PROPOSED] ORDER   7   $7.50

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 14 TO PRECLUDE OPINION TESTIMONY BY PLAINTIFFS? EXPERT WITNESSES TN AREAS NOT TESTIFIED TO AT THEIR DEPOSITIONS OR IN THEIR REPORTS; MEMORANDUM OF POTNTS AND AUTHORITI   9   $7.50

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 13 TO PRECLUDE REFERENCE TO ENSURANCE COVERAGE OR FINANCIAL CONDITION; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT THEREOF; [PROPOSED] ORDER   7   $7.50

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 12 TO PRECLUDE ANY REFERENCE TO PRIOR OR FUTURE CLAIMS AGAINST DEFENDANTS; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT THEREOF; [PROPOSED] ORDER   7   $7.50

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO.8: TO PRECLUDE ARGUMENT. TESTIMONY, OR OTHER EVIDENCE REGARDING THE ALLEGED DUTCH FORENSIC INSTITUTE REPORT OR FINDINGS; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT   53   $10.51

   10/24/2011   MOTION IN LIMNE NO.9: TO PRECLUDE ARGUMENT, TESTIMONY, OR OTHER EVIDENCE REGARDING THE ALLEGED "SEIZURE" OF SKEETERS' COMPUTER HARD DRIVE BY THE FBI; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT TH   5   $7.50

   10/24/2011   MOTION IN LIMINE NO.2: TO PRECLUDE EVIDFNCE OF SPECIAL DAMAGES AS TO ANY CLAIM; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT THEREOF; PROPOSED ORDER   198   $20.66

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 10 TO EXCLUDE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION WITNESS STATEMENTS, REPORTS AND OTHER DOCUMENTATION; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   21   $8.27

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 9 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE RELATING TO INSTANCES OF DOMESTIC ABUSE IN PLAINTIFFS? FAMILY HISTORY; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; `EXHIBITS   54   $10.58

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 8 TO EXCLUDE ARUBAN POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORTS, TRANSCRIPTS AND RELATED WITNESS STATEMENTS; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBIT   36   $9.32

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS' MOTION IN LJMINE NO. 10: REGARDING ATTORNEY'S FEES; PROPOSED ORDER   6   $7.50

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 11: TO PRECLUDE ARGUMENT, TESTIMONY OR OTHER EVIDENCE REGARDING SO- CALLED JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS, STANDARDS OF CONDUCT OR ETHICS OR THAT DEFENDANTS ARE GUILTY OF NEGL   9   $7.50

   10/24/2011   MOTION IN LIMINE NO.4: TO PRECLUDE ARGUMENT, TESTIMONY OR EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED FRAUD OR NEGLIGENT MISREPRESENTATION BY JAMIE SKEETERS OR BY DEFENDANTS THROUGH THEIR AGENT SKEETERS; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS   36   $9.32

   10/24/2011   DEFENDANTS MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 5: TO PRECLUDE ARGUMENT OF COUNSEL, TESTIMONY, OR EVIDENCE FOR AN AWARD OF EXEMPLARY DAMAGES   6   $7.50

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 26 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE AND/OR TESTIMONY RELATED TO PLAINTIFFS' ALLEGED INVOLVEMENT IN TRANSACTIONS INVOLVING THE SALE OF DRUGS; DECLARATION OF JOSHUAD D. YEAGER; EXHIB   32   $9.04

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 25 TO EXCLUDE NON-PARTY WITNESSES FROM THE COURTROOM WHEN NOT TESTIFYING; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER   7   $7.50

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 24 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF DISCUSSIONS, CONVERSATIONS, REPRESENTATIONS, OFFERS AND ANY OTHER DOCUMENT AND/OR STATEMENT RELATING TO AND/OR REFERCNCING ENY SETTLCMENT OR    12   $7.64

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 17 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE AND/OR TESTIMONY RELATED TO PLAINTIFF & NEGOTIATIONS ANDLOR PURSUIT OF AN ALLEGED BOOK PROPOSAL WITH LARRY GARRISON AND OTHERS; DECLARATION OF J   127   $15.69

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 16 TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE OR TESTIMONY RELATED TO ALLEGED PAYMENT AGREEMENT AND MONEY TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN PLAINTIFFS AND JORAN VAN DER SLOOT; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D   42   $9.74

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 15 TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE OR TESTIMONY REGARDING THE MUSIC VIDEO PLAYED IN THE BACK SEAT OF DEEPAK KALPOES CAR; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   43   $9.81

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 13 TO EXCLUDE ALL TESTIMONY, EVIDENCE ANDJOR ANY REFERENCE TO WITNESS NADIRA RAMIREZ?S TERMINATION FROM HER EMPLOYMENT AT THE MANCHEBO BEACH RESORT; DECLARATION OF JOS   28   $8.76

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 12 TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE OR TESTIMONY RELATED TO JORAN VAN DER SLOOT CALLING PLAINTIFFS "SWEET THING," "SWEETMAN," AND "PIMP"; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIB   52   $10.44

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 11 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE RELATING TO PLAINTIFFS" POSSESSION AND/OR USE OF PORNOGRAPHIC MATERIAL AND MEDIA; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   71   $11.77

   10/24/2011   NOTICE OF POSTING JURY FEES   4   $7.50

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 14 TO EXCLUDE THE TRANSCRIPT REGARDING THE RECORDED PHONE CONVERSATION BETWEEN JORAN VAN DER S LOOT AND PAUL VAN DER SLOOT AND ANY RELATED EVIDENCE OR TESTIMONY; DECLA   19   $8.13

   10/24/2011   NOTICE OF LODGING RELEVANT PORTIONS OF CERTIFIED DEPOSITION TRANSCRIPT OF MIRIAM ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER RE DEFENDANTS' MOTION TO COMPEL DEPOSITION PRODUCTION AND RESUME THE DEPOSITION OF MIRIAM ARLENE    4   $7.50

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 23 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE RELATING TO INCIDENTS O TAKING WOMEN TO HOTELS; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER   100   $13.80

   10/24/2011   PROOF OF SERVICE OF MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS   3   $7.50

   10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 1 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE RELATING TO THE PLAINTIFFS' RENTAL OF A HOTEL ROOM AT THE 1I1LRESORTS & SUITES AND OF EVENTS EJATING TO THEIR STAY 2MEREIN ON MARCH 4 THROUGH MAR   77   $12.19
   

OMG!   ::MonkeyShocked::

10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS? MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 22 TO EXCLUDE ALL OPINIONS AND TESTIMONY FROM DEFENDANT?S RETAINED EXPERT JAMES CLEMENTE; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA 0. YEAGER; EXHIBITS   31   $8.97


http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-11-21-criminal-minds-side_x.htm

FBI profiler inspires actor
Updated 11/22/2006 7:53 AM ET

2006
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By Robert Hanashiro, USA TODAY
Consultation: The FBI's Jim Clemente, right, reviews the script for an episode of Criminal Minds with friend and star Mandy Patinkin.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.tv.com/people/jim-clemente/trivia/

 ::snipping2::

SSA Jim Clemente was a prosecutor before beginning his career with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. He is now a recognized expert in the fields of Child Sex Offender Behavior, Child Sexual Victimology, and Child Pornography.

SSA Jim Clemente has been an FBI agent for more than 19 years, eight of them as a member of the elite Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU), headquartered in Quantico, Virginia. Jim is one of only 30 agents chosen for the BAU, out of more than 12,000 agents. SSA Clemente is a recognized expert in the fields of Child Sex Offender Behavior, Child Sexual Victimology, and Child Pornography.
 ::snipping2::

Jim Clemente: (on interrogating a suspect) If you treat the subject with dignity and respect, that's the best way to promote interaction, to make it more likely that he will talk to you.

I'll trust your judgement Klaas!    ::MonkeyCool::

I keep thinking...If the plaintiffs want it excluded, we're more than likely interested in it; but would there be anything there that we don't already know?

I want as many people as possible to look at that list of documents and give me a wish list.  No way will we get them all but if there is one or two you think look the best, I'll see how many I can get.  I just need help determining which ones.

Keep in mind there are often duplicates.  For instance, the Plaintiff's file something and when the Defendants give their response, the Plaintiff's original argument will likely be included in the Defendants response.  So it might be best to get Defendant docs that could include both.

Agree!  And let me help speed up the process a little bit--motions by plaintiffs  ::monkeydenied::   jmo

I just highlighted a few red.  If there is a corresponding Defendant response to any of those, I would get the Defendant response.

 ::monkeywine2::

 ::rhino:: ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino::   ::justice2NJ::

Seriously, I would not buy too many!! The titles alone tell us a lot!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Holy Guacamole!!

Prostitution services?? 

Satish's early morning text to Joran?


Maybe the judge will issue one ruling addressing all the requests.  We can get that then....or we could ask TMZ to get on it... ::MonkeyDevil::

10/24/2011   PLAINTIFFS' MOTION IN LIMINE NO. 23 TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE RELATING TO INCIDENTS O TAKING WOMEN TO HOTELS; DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER
 100 pages
 cost $13.80

This is the first document I got.  Wanted to see if there was any value to it.  Inside the PDF tons of chat logs.  I did find the following two pages rather informative:

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FYI - DIABLO = DJ DIABLO AKA STEVE CROES

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So Deepak states that Natalee only had her identity card and $50.00 on her.  Now how would he know that for sure at that time.  Did they bother to ask him if he went through her pockets or did someone tell him.

They way Deepak states it makes it look like only the perpetrator would know that exact information.

 ::rhino::

from the latest documents filed by Kalpoe attorneys


p. 4 "The Broadcast also conveyed to its audience of millions that Plantiffs were somehow involved in the Natalee Holloway's death.

 ::monkeydenied::

It's clear that the Aruba Judge knew something long before Dr. Phil Show and that something is THE PLANTIFFS DEEPAK AND SATISH WERE INVOLVED IN DISPOSAL OF A CORPSE!

ARUBA JUDGE SMID SAID: " The judge  reasoned Friday that “the new evidence, together with the existing evidence in this case, produce serious grounds for the suspicion of some kind of aiding and abetting, of covering up the traces of a crime committed or of the disposing of a corpse,” prosecutors said.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/11/30/aruba.holloway/index.html
AND
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/11/30/natalee-hoolloway-investigation-aruban-judge-orders-kalpoe-brothers-to-be-released/

from the latest documents filed by Kalpoe attorneys


p. 13: Text msg from Deepak to John Charles Croes

[they are discussing which hotel to take girls to - fornicate]
p. 26 "Deepak text: My father works at Marriott and we can get a discount.

p. 27 Joran to Deepak: "i'll pay one night, Sander one, and you one, and I'll pay for the alcohol."
      Joran to Deepak: "No, only you, me your brother, Sander, Koen, Freddy. No more. If not they to pay
      Joran to Deepak: "Good, and we are going to get a lot of chicks! That's why I want to stay at the Holiday Inn"

p. 30 "Deepak to Joran "Let's see if there's anything at Havana today. Don't think so, only Aruban people, no tourists!"

p. 45 - Dennis Jacobs report: August 23, 2005 Deepak Kalpoe rented a room 222A from March 24, 2005 to March 27, 2005 with 3 other persons in the hotel and paid cash at The Mill Resort & Suites.

p. 56 - Deepak states: Joran's father said: "If there is no body there is no reason to arrest us>"

p. 59 - JUNE 1, 2005 DEEPAK WENT TO SEE JORAN AT RACQUET CLUB WITH HIS BROTHER AT 9:30 PM
P. 60 - Kalpoes went to Freddy's house to bring the camera

p. 74 - Wendy Terry from Texas had email contact with Deepak - Deepak told her that there was a
        third witness who saw them at the Racquet Club at 2:30/2:40 am along with the Gardner and Jogger.

On Aug. 23, 2005 Stefany Cortes said that Joran, Freddy, Satish and Deepak took her and 2 other American girls to the Mill Resort she fell into a deep sleep & sex was had there. Photos were taken by Deepak & Joran had photos on a CD and showed them to kids at the International School.

p. 85 deepak deposition


NOTE to Monkeys who put together the porn tape in Deepaks car and the photos of naked girl at the Mill resort.
You did awesome work!

 PLAINTIFFS' [KALPOES] USE OF PROSTITUTION SERVICES IN ARUBA         
 FAILURE TO DEMAND RETRACTION [from Dr. Phil show]
THE ALLEGED DUTCH FORENSIC INSTITUTE REPORT OR FINDINGS [you know the one that stoopid nutball Arlene said they had]
TO EXCLUDE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION WITNESS STATEMENTS

 INVOLVEMENT IN TRANSACTIONS INVOLVING THE SALE OF DRUGS
SETTLCMENT -  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Dr. Phil said he would not settle!!!! Count on it leprechauns.

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT CALLING PLAINTIFFS "SWEET THING," "SWEETMAN," AND "PIMP" ::MonkeyShocked::


WISH LIST ???????
 MONEY TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN PLAINTIFFS AND JORAN VAN DER SLOOT;
 VIDEO PLAYED IN THE BACK SEAT OF DEEPAK KALPOES CAR
POSSESSION AND/OR USE OF PORNOGRAPHIC MATERIAL
PHONE CONVERSATION BETWEEN JORAN VAN DER S LOOT AND PAUL VAN DER SLOOT
 INCIDENTS OF TAKING WOMEN TO HOTELS;

Keep it coming all monkeys. Bit by bit this all pieces together what was always known.

  ITA ::rhino::

Hi antunym (http://bestsmileys.com/waving/5.gif)

Hey you I hope all is well.  I'm still here every waking day of my life in the rafters hoping waiting and praying for our sweetheart. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::   ::justice2NJ:: 

(http://bestsmileys.com/waving/5.gif) Lady Devon ::bee::

   I just want to say hello to Nut, San, Muffy, Billb, Wreck, Hotping, robots, Rob, Kermit, Klaas, TM, Magnolia, None, Jen3560, Freebirds, auntunym, Tamikosmom, Anna, and any other Mod or Monkey I may have left out. As I walked from the bus stop today, I gently raised my head to the sky, and as the sun began to break through the clouds, I thought of 2NJ and the impact that not only she, but the entire Monkey community has had on my life.

   Natalee Holloway, not just a girl, was raped, murdered, and disposed of by some miscreants in Aruba. The world will never forget Natalee Holloway , what Aruba did to Natalee and her family, as well as how the entire justice sysytem of Aruba was, is, and always will be complicit in the murder of Stephany Flores. What Aruba doesn't understand is that they have created many more people willing to fight for justice and human rights. I can verify that fact because I am one of them. Trust me Aruba, it may take time, but you haven't seen the last of KTF..Human rights are where it's at. It may take time for KTF to reach the beaches of Aruba, but KTF will, in time, figure out the right levers to pull to get just a little more justice for those who continue to suffer at the hands of the chosen few in Aruba. MARK MY WORDS. I may 50, 60, or 70, but I will get just a little more justice for those who've been touched by the EVIL THAT IS ARUBA!!

Good to see you KTF.  I agree with what you said.  It may take time but Aruba will get theirs.  They helped the murdering family called Van der Sloot and now they will live with their actions. 

The Range Rover Confession and The Defamation Lawsuit Connection

Was Joran tipped off that he was being recorded in the Range Rover "confession" ... the Range Rover "confession" where the Kalpoes are distanced from implication in the happenings encompassing the morning of May 30th ... the morning when Natalee Holloway met her demise?  Was there a deal in the works for the distancing of the Kalpoes ... a deal that would net Joran $1,000,000.

Janet

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The Range Rover Confession

Transcript:

<snipped>

JORAN:  Ok they (Deepak and Satish) have just dropped me off. They don't know anything further.

PATRICK:  So you never told these two (Deepak and Satish) anything?
 
JORAN:  Never, never, never.

<snipped>

Disposed - Chapter 17 - Patrick Vander Eem


The Defamation Lawsuit
 
Feb 6, 2008 5:00 am US/Pacific
Former Holloway Suspects Can Sue Dr. Phil

A judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, the lead attorney for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward A. Ferns.

"I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom.

The ruling came a day after ABC's "20/20" aired a secretly recorded conversation involving Joran Van der Sloot ....

Cremer said the taped remarks by Van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

<snipped>

http://cbs2.com/entertainment/doctor.phil.mcgraw.2.647163.html


Klaasend
Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #857 3/20/11 -
« Reply #569 on: April 06, 2011, 09:14:40 PM »

Lawsuit Document

Transcript and Exibit 528A (Video)

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9456.msg1325293#msg1325293


The Deal

Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story
Tuesday, November 25, 2008

<snipped>

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you have any contact with Deepak and Satish?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: What kind of contact?

VAN DER SLOOT: I have e-mailed back and forth with them a couple of times, called once.

VAN SUSTEREN: When did you call?

VAN DER SLOOT: Something -- three months ago.

VAN SUSTEREN: What was the conversation?

VAN DER SLOOT: It was about they had a lawsuit going, and that's really the only thing we talk about.

VAN SUSTEREN: And is there -- why is the lawsuit of interest to you?

VAN DER SLOOT: They said that if they won the lawsuit, that they'd give me a million dollars.

VAN SUSTEREN: And is that Deepak saying that, or Satish?

VAN DER SLOOT: It's Deepak. I have it on paper too.

VAN SUSTEREN: Deepak wrote it, or in an e-mail?

VAN DER SLOOT: No, I got it - just my computer. Like it's typed up.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know if his lawyer knows?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, for sure.

VAN SUSTEREN: What does it say on the paper? What's the deal?

VAN DER SLOOT: It's that if as long as I don't share anything that I know about the both of them with any money, and if they win the lawsuit, I will get a million dollars.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did that come from the lawyer or from Deepak?

VAN DER SLOOT: Both of them.

VAN SUSTEREN: Both the lawyer and Deepak?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes. It's an official paper.

VAN SUSTEREN: Will you show us a copy of it?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html#ixzz1MHix8coc

s.t.

 ::HelloKitty::

Hi KTF (http://bestsmileys.com/waving/5.gif)  I'm sorry I missed you, and I agree with what you've posted.  

Tick Tock!  Tick Tock! (http://bestsmileys.com/clocks/3.gif)  And I still believe there can and will be justice for Natalee!  ::justice2NJ::  I miss our 2NJ.   ::bee::

RIGHT ON KTF!!!!

It takes time, but KTF is storing things in the ol' noggin so there is one more person speaking on behalf of those who can't. That's what you do Aruba:oppress, murder, kidnap, and disappear people because you think an Island is untouchable. It is very touchable with the right levers being pulled. Kermit has brought too light the "secret" banking system that exists, not only in Aruba, but around the world. Now that the gates to Colombia , South Korea, and most of all Panama have been opened up, I think working on getting as many people to switch their tax haven from Aruba to Panama would be a splended thing. Again, time is on our side Aruba.... ::MonkeyCool::

Absolutely, I'm keeping the faith!   ::MonkeyGavel::  ::justice2NJ::

::MonkeyCool::

EXCLUSIVE! JORAN JAIL HOUSE SEX ROMP

In an outrageous slap-in-the-face to the justice system, vicious killer Joran van der Sloot was caught with a woman in his cell – preparing for a wild sex-and-drugs party.
 ::snipping2::


“Joran was given permis­sion to leave his cell to buy a soda from an inmate shop in an adjoining wing, where convicted foreign prisoners are housed,” a source told The ENQUIRER.

“There he met a woman who regularly visits another inmate to have sex and bring him drugs after guards have been bribed to look the other way. Joran began chatting with her, but unluckily for him he was spotted by one of the few incor­ruptible staffers.

“The guard became suspicious when he saw Joran whisper in the woman’s ear, then slip her money before strolling back to his own cellblock.

“A few minutes later, the guard saw the woman walk in the same direction. He followed her at a discreet distance – and watched her step inside Joran’s cell.

“Before they could begin having sex, the guard burst in and broke up the party.

 ::snipping2::
“When guards subdued Joran, they looked under the bed and found packets of marijuana and a powerful, hallucinogenic cocaine base that users smoke.

“The woman confessed she’d just sold them to him.”

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-joran-jail-house-sex-romp
Edit to snip article.  We can only post partial articles.  MB

Thank you for posting the article Patriot.  Somehow this just doesn't surprise me at all.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Sorry about posting the entire article.. It's been a while since I've posted and I forgot.

No worries Patriot, I've fixed it as you can see.   ::MonkeyWink::  Yes, it has been a while since you've posted, and you are missed.  I really appreciate your bringing the article.  I really didn't like having to snip it, because the whole thing is interesting.  Hope all is well with you. 

Thanks MB, I'm here a lot just following along. Just haven't signed in much. Hope all is well with you too!

If the Enquirer article is true, then it's just more of the same old same old imo.  Joran may be able to get access to some things many may not in prison, but then he's also not exactly living the high life. 

 ::rhino::


Ricardo Flores - November, 2010

'Joran lives like a king in jail.  It is shameful what happens in prisons. I think the INPE has to give the same treatment to all criminals.'

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/83737/familia-flores-aseguran-que-joran-van-der-sloot-vive-como-rey

 ::HelloKitty::

The smell alone in that overcrowded, primitive prison must be unbearable.  I don't think those cell accommodations are exactly royal either but that's just me.  Sleeping with rats would also annoy me but maybe not everybody.

Compared to those being starved and beaten I suppose it does seem much better but I don't think any in that prison so globally notorious have it very good.

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/89036-behandeling-foxy-lady-opnieuw-uitgesteld

Google translation:

Treatment Foxy Lady again postponed

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27 2011 10:17

ORANGE CITY - The merits of lawsuit against Alex Mathew, wife Liliana and Michael  Levenstone has been postponed again. Tomorrow morning is a pro forma hearing in this matter. The trio is suspected of trafficking include Foxy Lady strip club.

Lawyer John Zara thinks the case is not treated as substantive "not all witnesses are heard." "The judicial investigation is still ongoing." Furthermore, know Zara to tell, tomorrow is another judge who handled the case. Finally the lawyer said that in addition to hearing new witnesses also testify again and need to be heard. When the merits of the case or will be, Zara could not say this morning. "That depends on the court." In his view, his colleague Bram Moszkowicz tomorrow to attend the meeting.

During the previous pro forma session, Alex Mathew absent. He suffered from health problems, says Zara then against this newspaper. When asked the lawyer says that now it is better to Mathew and he at least out of the wheelchair. He was claimed by Zara use a wheelchair on March 28 after he was assaulted by prison staff, following an uprising in KIA. "He can run, but not for long," he said. The doctor has the suspect been advised to just walk.

Mathew sit down since early August 2010 after Justice raids performed in his club Foxy Lady, his house and other buildings. The prosecution was looking for evidence in an investigation into human trafficking. The strippers would be forced to make long hours and according to justice against their detention. In addition to the raids were three other persons were arrested Mathew owners, who include a policeman who in his spare time as a security guard working at the strip tent.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/28/70-magnitude-earthquake-hits-peru/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/28/70-magnitude-earthquake-hits-peru/?test=latestnews)

6.9 Magnitude Earthquake Hits Peru

Published October 28, 2011


LIMA - A magnitude 6.9 earthquake struck southern Peru on Friday, the USGS said.

The quake hit the southwest coastal city of Ica, shaking buildings in Peru's capital Lima, Reuters reports.

There was no immediate warning of a tsunami.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/28/70-magnitude-earthquake-hits-peru/?test=latestnews#ixzz1c6fAHLDa

Aruban judge again extends Giordano detention
Friday, October 28, 2011

An Aruban judge on Friday ordered a Gaithersburg man suspected in the disappearance of a travel companion detained for an additional 30 days, according to prosecutors.

Gary Giordano, 50, has been held since Aug. 5 on suspicion that he was involved in the disappearance and presumed death of Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Md.

Mr. Giordano has not been charged with a crime.

“The investigation is still ongoing and results are still awaited of various research activities that are carried out abroad,” prosecutors said in a statement. “The results of these activities will be studied by the investigative team and incorporated in the investigation.”

<snipped>

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/28/aruban-judge-again-extends-giordano-detention/

I hope Joran was skeeerrrrrd.   ::MonkeyWitch1:: ::MonkeyDevil::

The Release of Joran Van der Sloot - 90 Days LaterLoving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 182:  September 1 Helen calls to say the court is asking for DNA from the Kalpoes and Joran van der Sloot and that their attorneys are fighting this.  She also says the suspects are pointing the finger at one another. ....

Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.   And we are the last ones to find out.

Pages 184: The opportunity to hide behind Hurricane Katrina is too inviting.  The three suspects will be released while all eyes are turned to the devastation in New Orlean.

Page 185: The last announcement I make on television is never seen.  Hurrican Katrina gives the island the cloak of cover it needs to let the suspects walk free and relieve itself of its media burden. ....

The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.

Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a resturant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust? ...

When Helen calls, I stand in a corner of the hotel room, phone to my ear, tapping my head against the wall over and over.  Tears fall hard.  "I'm done, Helen.  I'm done.  No justice for Natalee in Aruba.  I'm done."

THE RELEASE OF JORAN VAN DER SLOOT

Original Ruling Reversed

Aruba suspect’s father says son to be released
dated 9/1/2005 8:08:36 PM

<snipped>

The judge in the case issued two rulings: In the first, he agreed with prosecutors' request to extend the period of van der Sloot's pretrial detention by 30 more days.

But later Thursday, the judge issued another ruling that sided with the defense — an order to immediately suspend the execution of his earlier pretrial detention order.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9163292/


Released with Restrictions

Suspects in teen’s disappearance released
updated 9/3/2005 7:30:04 PM ET

SAINT NICOLAAS, Aruba - All three suspects in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager were released from jail Saturday in a setback for the prosecution and the biggest blow yet to Natalee Holloway’s family.

Joran van der Sloot, an 18-year-old Dutchman, and two Surinamese brothers, Satish Kalpoe, 18 and Deepak Kalpoe, 21, were released on condition they remain in Dutch territory and be available to police for questioning.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9188932/


Restrictions Lifted

Aruba court lifts curbs on three suspects in missing teen case
September 27, 2005

“An Aruban court has ruled that three suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway can remain free without conditions.”

“Wednesday's ruling overturned an earlier decision that restricted the suspects' travel and required them to remain available to investigators. The appeals court said there was a "lack of sufficient grounds and serious suspicions" to keep the restrictions on the three men. Joran van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers -- Deepak and Satish Kalpoe -- are suspects in the May 30 disappearance of the Alabama teen. They were released from jail on September 3rd on the condition they remain available for questioning.

<snipped>

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=3857796&nav=0RdEeaxB

One week came and went 4 days ago.  The December dealine is looming.

Janet

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JORAN VAN DER SLOOT FREE BY XMAS
August 18, 2011

The prime suspect in the NATALEE HOLLOWAY disappearance, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT may be freed from Peruvian prison by Christmas.
 
The Dutch thug who remains incarcerated in notorious hellhole Castro Castro prison for the murder of Stephany Flores may be free within months if prosecutors don’t move ahead with their case. And NOW Stephaney’s family fears that is indeed what will happen!
 
"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free," Ricardo Flores, Stephany's father, told CNN.

It also appears that there is some political payback for sloth-like due process directed at Ricardo Flores, a prominent Peruvian businessman and former elected official.

Flores' lawyer told El Comercio newspaper that prosecutors have all the evidence they need to convict, but have done nothing.  The attorney, Edward Alavrez, specifically targeted senior prosecutor Miriam Riveros Castellares.
 
"It's just irresponsible," Alvarez charged. "She's amassed all the files and is not taking into account the time. ... This case seems to matter very little to her."
 
Ricardo Flores told CNN that if she doesn't do something SOON, someone else should take charge over the heinous murder case.
 
"We're asking that either the prosecutor file charges or that authorities remove her from this case and name somebody else," he said.

<snipped>

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/joran-van-der-sloot-free-by-xmas

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-release-unlikely/Tr35DhdbC02G4KBWnSL3iA.cspx

 ::snipping2::

The family is pushing hard for faster action by the Peruvian legal system.  The Flores family’s lawyer, Edward Alvarez, has raised the alarm that van der Sloot could be released if not indicted within 18 months. Legal expert Amoretti says that 18 month limit is flexible.

The Peruvian justice authorities have confirmed that Van der Sloot’s remand can indeed be extended as Mr Amoretti says, but stress that there’s as yet no question of that being necessary. The Public Prosecutor is said to have received the file in July and to be dealing with the case.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyDance::

A week has come and gone five days ago.  The deadline is looming.

Janet

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b]Joran van der Sloot unlikely to be freed
Published on 18 August 2011 - 9:57pm[/b]

It is highly unlikely that Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot will be released from remand before he stands trial, says Peruvian legal expert Mario Amoretti.

Van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of Stephany Flores, a 21-year-old student who was found dead in his hotel room in Lima over a year ago. He was arrested in June 2010 and has been in custody since. Under Peruvian law, remand is limited to 18 months.

Delay

The Flores family’s lawyer Edward Alvarez had complained that no indictment against Van der Sloot had yet been formulated. He warned that the delay could lead to the suspect being released to await the start of the trial in freedom in Peru.

The Peruvian justice authorities have confirmed that Van der Sloot’s remand can indeed be extended as Mr Amoretti says, but stress that there’s as yet no question of that being necessary. The Public Prosecutor is said to have received the file in July and to be dealing with the case.

<snipped>

http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/joran-van-der-sloot-unlikely-be-freed

If Earthquakes had names, that one would be NatSteph

 ::justice2NJ::

Considering Beth Holloway had less than three weeks notice prior to the hearing when Dave Holloway's application to have their daughter declared dead was to be decided on ... why did the judge not grant a delay in proceedings to allow Beth and her attorney a timely opportunity to prepare an opposition?

Considering Beth was the main caregiver of Natalee and Matt following her divorce from Dave ... it makes sense that the judge should have afforded ... at the very least ... an even playing field to both parties in regards to the application to have Natalee declared legally dead.

IMO

Janet

+++++

A Glimmer of Hope

Natalee Holloway could soon be declared dead
Father had asked judge to begin process; mom opposes move
updated 9/23/2011 7:04:36

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama — A judge ruled Friday that Natalee Holloway's father has met the legal presumption of her death and now it's up to someone to prove she did not die six years ago on a high school graduation trip to Aruba.

Jefferson County's probate judge rejected a request by Dave Holloway's ex-wife, Beth Holloway, not to proceed with steps to declare their oldest child dead. The judge's ruling Friday afternoon is the first of two rulings necessary for a declaration of death. The second could come in early 2012.

In a hearing, Dave Holloway became teary eyed and his voice cracked as he asked Probate Judge Alan King to bring legal closure to the case.

Beth Holloway did not attend because she was in California for a speech. Her attorney, Charlie DeBardeleben, said, she was "horrified" by her ex-husband's efforts and she doesn't want her oldest child declared dead.

"There is always a glimmer of hope, especially when there is no hard evidence she is dead," the lawyer said.

The next step is to run legal notices in a newspaper to allow anyone to come forward with evidence that Natalee Holloway is alive at age 24. If no one does, the judge would hold another hearing in about three months, where he could issue a final order of death.

The Holloways divorced in 1993. Natalee Holloway was raised by her mother in Mountain Brook, a wealthy Birmingham suburb, and spent every other weekend with her father, an insurance agent in Meridian, Miss.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44641135/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/natalee-holloway-could-soon-be-declared-dead/
 
s.t.

Over six years later ... three current major happenings that have a Natalee Holloway connection imply if Aruba thought that in time the established coverup to prevent justice from prevailing would become a faded memory ... they were wrong big time.

1.  The Stephany Flores Case.
2.  The Defamation Lawsuit
3.  Dave Holloway's Petition.

http://treasureworks.com/user/userprofile/Oceanexploration

http://treasureworks.com/forums/6-new-member-intro/4351-hello-all

 ::snipping2::

Oceanexploration

Treasure Hobbyist

Posts: 4

Re: Hello all 4 Days, 15 Hours ago   Karma: 0

Hello all,

I too am new here. Looks like a good group. My name's Kyle Kingman. I am a sr. geophysicist and ocean explorer. After 6+ yrs as a private contractor, I joined Aqua Survey Inc. to help develop their geophysical survey methods and equipment. We now have some of the most sensitive all-metal detection equipment in the world (land or sea), as well as traditional cesium mags (G882s), high end side scan sonars, subbottom profilers, and multibeam. Most of our projects lately have been governmental UXO related, but the gear works just as well for finding shiny things. In addition to our underwater high power EM61 (time domain pulse induction electromagnetic detection) systems, we have underwater positioning systems which puts the diver in control. The diver has an underwater monitor which is supplied with military grade USBL (ultra short base line) acoustic positioning information as well as target location, so the diver sees where they are and where the target is in real time, regardless of depth. With this, we achieve sub-meter target reacquisition accuracy. When our EM data is combined with Mag data, we have full control over ferrous/non-ferrous discrimination making clutter rejection fairly straightforward. For target reacquisition we also have an EM-tipped water dredge which turns your traditional water dredge or air lift into a powerful metal detector / digging tool. This data is both diver displayed and sent topside. This is one of my favorite tools because it allows us to quickly and carefully dig the target while telling you precisely where it is at all times. For bombs this is great for obvious reasons. For bullion...this is pure fun.
I look forward to getting to you know all and I trust some of us have already crossed paths!

All the best,

Kyle Kingman

http://treasureworks.com/forums/49-marine-archaeology/4363-treasure-hunters-discover-two-of-sir-francis-drakes-ships#4372

 ::snipping2::

Re: Treasure hunters discover two of Sir Francis Drake’s ships 4 Days, 16 Hours ago   Karma: 0

Brilliant find and way to go Pat and team! This one is especially close to my heart, as I am decended from Sir Francis Drake's niece, Joanna Drake. Thanks for sharing Tom.

 ::snipping2::

Re: Treasure hunters discover two of Sir Francis Drake’s ships 4 Days, 15 Hours ago   Karma: 0

Yes, that would be Thomas Drake, son of Sir Edmund Drake. Thomas was Sir Francis's brother, who married Marry Parker giving birth to Joanna Drake (1596), who married Henry Kingman in 1616, a puritan pilgrim settling in mass bay colony with Joanna in 1634.
I think it would be incredible if they found his casket! I would go to Panama immediately for that one. Think I'll stay tuned!
 ::snipping2::

Re: Treasure hunters discover two of Sir Francis Drake’s ships 4 Days, 14 Hours ago   Karma: 0

I think that's a bit of a stretch, but I like how you think. That would be my 12th great uncle? I have a good friend / treasure hunter down in Panama now. I'll ask him to keep me posted.

Hmmm... OE = Treasure Hobbyist... life must be good.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  What about Natalee?  ::MonkeyMad::

http://vimeo.com/28340916

http://beerbloggle.blogspot.com/2011/10/sierra-nevada-summerfest.html

Exactly.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Peter de Vries has a new program.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/dutch-press-review-thursday-27-october-2011
Dutch Press Review Thursday 27 October 2011
Published on : 27 October 2011 - 10:05am | By Nicola Chadwick (Photo: RNW)

 ::snipping2::

Inside job foiled by TV crime reporter

 A Rabobank manager, who was arrested earlier this month for dealing in weapons, was planning to rob the bank from within. AD reports that TV crime reporter Peter R. de Vries will reveal the dastardly plan in his programme on Saturday.

Police arrested 25-year-old Koen B. following a tip from the crime reporter. Ten firearms were found in his car at the time of his arrest. Later a stash of weapons was found in a store room under a station in Rotterdam. The weapons were bought from former arms factory workers in Belgium. The suspect sold weapons to an undercover buyer ‘John’. He also told him he was planning to steal 10 million euros worth of valuables from private safes at the bank.

The bank manager appears to have lived a double life and does not seem to be very pleased with the unwelcome publicity. His lawyer tried to take out an injunction against the broadcast of Saturday’s programme. I dare say he was worried about his reputation.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyCool::   :smt049   ::MonkeyCool::

http://thehypemagazine.blogspot.com/2010/04/lifestyles-i-faux-with-karma.html

 ::snipping2::

Karma is about your actions, non-action, responsibility, accountability and consequence.
Karma literally means ‘action'. It is an action that has no charge. It is neither a good, nor bad -- it just simply IS. Think about this ‘No action is AN action' ...everything has a consequence, and consequences are at the heart of Karma.

What karma is truly about is accountability, responsibility, and consequences.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyCool::

Texasmom

Do you remember when Peter de Vries is retiring?  The progam that a posted above must be his old program?  He plans to do a talk show, right?  I think that I'm  ::MonkeyEek:: and tired; it's late!  Good night.

iirc he's retiring at the end of this season, I think he still had a few shows to go.

But I'm tired too...we'll check it out in the morning. 

Good night grace-land   ::MonkeyCool::

 

 ::MonkeyAngel::      ::MonkeyAngel::


Still Standing

pb

 ::rhino::
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Good morning pinkbanana.   :smt006  ::bee::

Peter R. de Vries, crime reporter is back! Next Sunday the exciting launch of the new television season. With this unique hidden camera operation with deployment of undercover officers. And a showdown on the highway where the police had to pluck up great ...

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/nieuwe-seizoen-begint-aanstaande-zondag/


Peter stops crime program in 2012 ...

Peter stops in June 2012 with his successful, frequently viewed crime program. This put him at the boards of Endemol Netherlands and SBS 6 at the dawn of the new TV season, let us know. Endemol and SBS regret the decision of the crime reporter, but they also say that the decision of Peter 'fully understand'.

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/peter-stopt-in-2012-met-misdaadprogramma-na-zeventien-jaar-onthullen-en-ontmaskeren/

Hello Monkeys!
I hope everyone is well.   ::MonkeyWitch1::

I wanted to put up a "Blast from the Past" funny...but I found this one instead:



I felt the same way at the time, and today its made me realize how innocent we all really still were before Joran brutally killed Stephany with his bare hands and her shirt. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'll keep looking for a funny... in the meantime, my love and peace  to all of you.  And my thanks to Klaas & The AmazingMods and the Benevolent Monkey supplying the court docs for our perusal.

On we go...

Thank you, Buckeye!

Lifesong  ::HelloKitty::

We haven't met, but I wanted to thank you for your hard work and dedication at SM! 

Thanks from me too, Buckeye!   ::MonkeyCool::

Great to see you Lifesong, I hope all is well with you and yours too.   ::MonkeyKiss::

Seems like Peter has been busy.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.tienfan.nl/Blog/?p=20218

Google translation

Peter R. de Vries unmasked tonight arms dealer manager for Rabobank to SBS 6 at 21:30
[October 30, 2011 | By: Tienfan.nl

Tonight starting at SBS 6 the last season of Peter R. de Vries, crime reporter. In the first episode of this last season, Peter immediately with a bang. Peter during one month long, extensive hidden camera action exposed a large illegal arms dealer. With the help of undercover agents, Peter R. de Vries and his team at Rabobank employee Koen B. Gouda bought a large quantity of prohibited weapons. This included other machine guns, automatic guns, riot guns with silencers and sawed-off walk. In addition, a large quantity of ammunition including dum-dum bullets a batch delivered. The result of these hidden camera action next Sunday to see the first episode of the new season.

Arms Deals
The broadcast will be tonight shows that at first glance B. Koen neat job as a sales / service staff at private Rabobank is a notorious arms dealer. In B. 's house, various arms deals signed. In the same house are sniper rifles and a rocket launcher, riot guns are modified and turned into bullets illegal dum-dum ammunition.

During operation, the hidden camera bankman is clearly demonstrated that he knows the deadly weapons he sells to our undercover agents for criminal purposes. Peter's research shows that a stricter monitoring of gun licenses has no effect. After all, why would you need a firearms license if your weapons and ammunition so easily and in such amounts illegally can just buy? B. Koen was a member of a shooting.

Large-scale bank robbery
The 25-year-old Koen B. unfolds against infiltrators also from our own plan for a major robbery in the locker room in his own bank in the Town of Rotterdam to commit. According to the calculation of B. would find a booty of about ten million euros. Then find a large number of end B. Koen punishable preparatory acts. So he made with his mobile phone secret recordings of the various rooms in the bank, he explains how the alarm can be disabled and the security cameras in the Rabobank should be taped.

B. Koen was last Tuesday at a service station on the A12 and immediately confronted by Peter arrested by the police before holding the end of the Middle Dutch Corps. At the time of the arrest was about to B. what he himself described as a Rambo-weapon, including a large .50 machine gun ammunition and seven revolvers and a riotgun deliver our infiltrator. The police has arrested after raids carried out in Belgium with a large arsenal was uncovered.

 ::snipping2::

Hi Lifesong

Patience is definitely not one of my virtures but ... I do believe that in time the Persistence betrayal will be exposed one way or another.  Could it be that just one who was on board ... one who has knowledge ... will grow a conscience and ... the truth regarding the contents of the trap will be revealed.  On that day a measure of closure will be afforded to the family of Natalee?

Janet

++++

NANCY GRACE
Judge Dismisses Holloway Suit
Aired August 11, 2006 - 20:00:00   ET

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: Well, the facts still remain that those are the last suspects known to be seen with Natalee alive. And everybody knows of their repeated lies that they told the authorities, even their father, Paulus Van Der Sloot. That`s why he was arrested. There was a reason that he was arrested in Natalee`s disappearance. It was not unwarranted whatsoever.

And you know -- and being dismissed in New York, it was on a procedure ruling.  Here again, jurisdiction.  We have faced that issue since May 30 of 2005.  Jurisdiction and extradition hve hit us in the face every time.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/11/ng.01.html

I guess they still haven't found any sign of the fishermen, sad for the families.

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

October 29, 2011 Awe Mainta Page 23

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 ::MonkeyWink::

It took a minute, but it finally came to me...

Wasn't it our all-time favorite [cough, cough] diver Tim "scared of a skate" Trahan, operative of Underwater Expeditions, that first introduced Kyle to the concept of treasure hunting?

[Where's Anna? She used to make fun of Trahan with me, lol.]    ::MonkeyDevil::

Thanks for yours as well, grace-land.   ::MonkeyWitch1::  I'm glad you're here.

 :smt056   ::justice2NJ::   ::monkeywine2::

 ::CowboySmiley::

Homeland Security?
 
Does Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez have his Eye on Aruba? Talk about bad for their Economy
Posted February 23, 2007 by Scared Monkeys
 
If anyone wants to wonder why the US government never got more involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and why they did not take Aruba to task, they need only to look to the unstable leader of Venezuela for their answer. Hugo’s actions directly affect American's homeland security decisions.

Red - Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/02/23/does-venezuelan-president-hugo-chavez-have-his-eye-on-aruba-talk-about-bad-for-their-economy/

This is from a police interrogation of Satish where Satish invoked his right to remain silent.  The questions are very telling IMO:

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I believe the trio had previous complaints.  I think they learned a lesson and decided that if a girl woke up or fussed, it was best not to leave a witness.  I think they had been warned and got rid of the "evidence" including Natalee. Joran did the same thing with Stephany.
Edit-fixed name.  MB

I don't think van der Straaten would have offered Joran a psych ward without a "history".

The Freddy - Satish - Deepak - Joran Connection

FOX News - September 01, 2005
Aruba Suspects Accused of Taking Sex Photos of Another Girl

<snipped>

The Kalpoe brothers were released July 4 and rearrested last week with a friend of the three young men, Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis (search), 21.

Zedan-Arambatzis, who is not suspected of involvement in the Holloway case, is accused of taking photos of a minor female in "tempting poses" and of showing the photos to other people, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia. He is also suspected of having unspecified "physical contact" with the girl, she said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incident, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, Emerencia said.

<snipped>
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168233,00.html

A Long History

Summons and Complaint
Elizabeth Ann Twitty and Dave Edward Holloway
vs. Joran van der Sloot and Paulus van der Sloot

12. On at least three occasions prior to May 2005, young Aruban women alleged that they were victims of “date rape” perpetrated by Joran and his accomplices.
 
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/hway/hwayvds21606cmp5.html


Summons and Complaint
Elizabeth Ann Twitty and Dave Edward Holloway
vs. Joran van der Sloot and Paulus van der Sloot

81. Defendant Paulus van der Sloot knew his minor child, Joran van der Sloot, had a long history of sexual assaults on young women.

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/hway/hwayvds21606cmp15.html

A Group Called "The Pimps"

'Scarborough Country' for August 26
updated 8/29/2005 3:49:28 PM ET

<snipped>

DANIELS:  It definitely smells that way.  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
MANSUR:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/t/scarborough-country-august/

Assaulted Under the Influence of Drugs

'The Abrams Report' for February 24
updated 2/27/2006 10:45:52 AM ET

<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: There were two—I know of two young girls. One was 16 and one was 14 years of age, and it was difficult for these girls to do, but they did come forward. They had to hire an attorney. They gave statements to the police. You know, these were real girls that were coming forward.  We don't know what happened or what transpired, why that never went any further than it did. We don't know if it had something to do with—I was told that Dennis Jacobs (ph) had strongly—had talked to the girls and was really putting the pressure on them to retract this, so you know, we just don't know how far that some individuals in that police department were going to go to put a stop to those girls coming forward. But they were real girls and they had been assaulted by Joran under the influence of drugs.

<snipped>
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11590518/

Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statment - June 10, 2005

<snipped>

To your question as to what role Joran plays in our circle of friends, I can state the following. He has no real role. We are all the same.

To your question as to where we take the girls we pick up, I can state the following. Sometimes the girls stay at "Carlos & Charlies" or sometimes we take them to their hotel.

To your question was to what exactly happens when we have picked up the girls, I can state the following. Just kissing and dancing.

To your question whether sexual intercourse has happened, I can state the following. Yes, it has happened.

To your question whether it ever happened that all of us, so in one room, had sexual intercourse, I can state the following. It has happened.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=215.0

http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/september_16__2011

September 16, 2011 The Morning News

Pages 3 and 5

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Read that last article closely monkeys...imo it's ALL right there in black and white.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

email from Jossy (to Easywriter
"We also recently obtained the original video recording that Jamie Skeeters made (not the one shown on Dr. Phil!), and in it Deepak compromises himself seriously. We will continue to publish the documents that we have tomorrow and everyday thereafter, until one of them breaks down or starts to counterattack.
fight4truth.forumup.us/viewtopic.php?t=85&mforum=fight4truth

Thanks, TM.  Just sickening........Sweet Natalee never had a chance.

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

With pictures

http://www.news10.net/news/local/article/161023/428/Other-unresolved-missing-person-cases

Other unresolved missing person cases
1:26 PM, Oct 31, 2011
Written by
C. Johnson

Everyday people disappear. From teen runaways to those who don't want to be found to crime victims, according to one estimate, 2,300 people go missing each day in the U.S.

Just a few of the situations gather attention due to the tenacity of concerned family and friends, police appeals and the particular characteristics of the case.

Following are just a very few of the missing and/or abducted person investigations of girls or young women like Kristin Smart that remain unsolved.

Natalee Holloway

Natalee Holloway disappeared in May 2005 while vacationing in Aruba to celebrate her high school graduation. She didn't show up for her flight home, and the multiple searches have never turned up a body.

Hoolway was last seen with local residents Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. Each man would eventually be arrested several times in connection with the disappearance, but they've always been released because of a lack of evidence.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyWitch1::

 ::HelloKitty::  Lifesong

A little something for the Kalpoe's:  (http://bestsmileys.com/clocks/3.gif)  Tick Tock!  Tick Tock!

08/23/2002
Five major energy companies will have a chance to develop four blocks of Venezuela's Deltana Platform [Natural Gas]  (http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/company/cnl23803.htm)


04/2007 – 01/2008
Confidential Witnesses in the Class Action Lawsuit state that around the time of the IPO, Mermis was trying to attain a project out of Venezuela and billed the Company for trips to Venezuela. [pages  25 & 26] (http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:YzXYM0VYK8cJ:securities.stanford.edu/1039/DEEP_01/2008721_r01c_08-00687.pdf+Legacy+offshore+R+joshua+koch&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)

05/2007
Schaeffer contacts Dave Holloway

06/08/2008
“The premier of Aruba made these comments during a press conference yesterday. He is just back from a working visit in Colombia. (http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/good-new-about-aruba-electricity-water-31591/)



11/14/2008
Gas drilling close to Aruba 14 November 2008


Bzzz Bzzz....Boo!  ::ghost::  Miss MuffyBee!

Happy Halloween.. ::MonkeyWitch1:: ::witch2::


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Ditto

TM - thank you for all of the fresh articles that you provide as well as the pictorial reminders....

Remember back in 2006 there was an Amigo article regarding this.  I might try to find the original article, but for attribution sake here is a link to what my search came up with (ouch)..  http://tinyurl.com/5th5yrb

ARUBA - The Parliament had authorized the government to found the Aruban oil company, Compania Arubiano di Petroleo (CAP). The idea is that this public enterprise negotiates with companies that want a concession for the search for oil and gas in the Aruban territorial waters. "Seven companies have already shown interest in the search for oil and gas in the past four years", told Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) the Parliament.

"Oduber didn't want to reveal the names of the companies. What a nonsense; we are talking about the Parliament here. I wonder why we didn't get any information on the plans", said Mike de Meza, AVP parliament-member and owner of an engineering company that works for Valero. He asked questions about the involvement of the Netherlands in the founding of CAP. "The Netherlands has a lot of experience in the field of oil and gas. Not only that; our seas concern the Kingdom. What happens if we find oil and gas? We will immediately be in conflict with Venezuela. A few years ago Colombia found a gas deposit on the Venezuelan border, which immediately caused a conflict, and the gas deposit was never exploited. There are rumours about us having a treaty with Venezuela, but I doubt that this would fix an anticipated conflict. And what if we get entangled in a war problem? We will have to depend on the Netherlands then. I think that we have to plan ahead."

Geologist Armando Curet of the DOW will be appointed acting manager of CAP. The government had promised to recruit personnel from existing public servants for CAP. The government will need to ask the Parliament permission for decisions on concessions and for the expenditure of money. There were searches for oil and gas around Aruba in the past, but the conclusion was then that the composition of the sea-bed is very good, but too young. Nowadays there is better equipment to take more accurate measurements.
.......

It's good to see you Sleuth!!   ::koaladancing::  I love the "Glenda" cartoon.   ::witch2::

Oduber  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sleuth - good to see you!

I haven't even read this but just purchased the doc that referenced the phone conversation between Joran and Paulus.  Here is the conversation, we can read it together ::MonkeyCool::
ENGLISH
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DUTCH
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Woooohoooo!  Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyKiss::

 

Thanks Klaas.  This is huge!

June 6th?  This conversation took place prior to the revelation of the hotel security video ... a revelation that Paulus van der Sloot did not anticipate.

Janet

++++++

Monkeys Media Reminder … Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio
February 13th, 2008

Beth Holloway:

51:40 - I do believe his (Joran) father played a major role in Natalee's disappearance.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/


NANCY GRACE
Latest in Search for Natalee Holloway
Aired October 4, 2005 - 20:00:00   ET

<snipped>

GRACE: Beth, that the judge refused to allow anyone to search his house and that Joran Van Der Sloot ultimately quit talking. The day after all of this happened, while you were out combing the island, they called a meeting, a meeting at the pool behind the judge`s house of lawyers, the Kalpoe family, Joran Van Der Sloot, his father, for what?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: What he was doing was helping the boys get their stories straight, Nancy. He was instructing the boys how to get your story straight. If all stories match, in 10 days you will be free.

GRACE: And what about the hard drive?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well he also told the guys once they got their stories straight to begin e-mailing this and then use your hard drive to nail an alibi.

GRACE: And not to use your cell phone.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Cell phones would be bugged.

GRACE: Incredible while you were out walking the beaches looking for Natalee they are devising their defense strategy. Of course they claim they know nothing about the case.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html

s.t.

Paulus' counselling of Joran in their communication on on June 6th was all for naught.  The Holiday Inn drop off story was about to be busted big time.  The determination of a mother's love to uncover the truth regarding her missing daughter was not anticipated.

Janet

+++++

A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 120:  One week ago this day Natalee was making plans with her friends to spend her last night in Aruba at Carlos ‘n Charlies.  She left there with Joran van der Sloot and hasn’t been seen since.

Early this morning two dark-skinned native Aruban security guards from the Allegro Hotel are arrested in connection with Natalee’s disappearance.  Surely a result of yesterday’s room-by-room search of that hotel.  Their clothes were taken.  Their cars are impounded.  Potential evidence is removed from their homes.  They are handcuffed and perp-walked to police cars and taken away. These security guards are labelled on the news as suspects in Natalee’s disappearance.

Apparently it’s not difficult to get a search warrant for these two.  But one certainly could not be obtained last week as we stood in the front yard of Joran van der Sloot’s house as he told of his sexual encounter with Natalee.  His father, Paulus, refused to let anyone inside their house, including the police.

Natalee never returned to the Holiday Inn. We had seen the tapes with a room full of police officials.  These two security guards also do not appear on the Holiday Inn security videos that we were shown.  So why these arrests?


Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx

They were searching for someone they thought was missing in the water, but he was at home all the time.  His leg(s) were hurting when he finished snorkeling, so he'd gotten a ride home with someone else.

http://www.awe24.com/20111030/8856/Polis_Kustwacht_Helikopter_y_voluntarionan_buscando_un_Colombiano_na_lama

Papiamentu translation:

police, kustwacht, helikopter y voluntarionan buscando one colombiano at lama, while the self is at home!

1 day happen come across, 30 of october 2011 18:37

diadomingo nightfall owing to enter informe of cu one person cu will owing to bay snorkel at malmok near of 3or y not owing to return canto more, while his car if was eynan. at once unidad of strand politie, guarda costa y helicopter owing to leave y cuminsa cu one buskeda rigoroso at the costa near of malmok. the agentenan owing to come across cu some colombiano cu was at canto of lama nightfall y owing to declara cu they owing to come across one conosi of they y cu will have to owing to bay snorkel y owing to tarda y they see cu is birando dark owing to dicidi of calling autoridad, because the car of he was keto bay bandi lama but not can owing to see sir none caminda. after of one buskeda acute, police owing to bay at the person perdi his cas y owing to encontre at home. according ela splica cu the coriente will owing to hibe supuestamente bandi arashi y ela achieve dolor at his leg y owing to ask lift bay his cas. police owing to dune one good scual, pace owing to place they lose time y is gasto they innesecario cu helicopter y personal. come across

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The Involvment of Paulus van der Sloot

Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
by Beth Holloway

Page 151:  A few days later Paulus is arrested and questioned by Aruban police after they say he changed his story about what time he picked up Joran on the night Natalee disappeared.  First Paulus states that he picked “them” up at McDonald’s at four in the morning on May 30.  We do not know who he means by “them.”  Later he changes his story completely, saying he picked Joran up at eleven at night on May 29 at McDonald’s.  By making this change, his story now coincides with the one Joran gave police on June 9.  But according to Aruban police officials it also makes Paulus another lying witness.

Page 157:   Aruban authorities never took statements from the Alabama men, the eyewitnesses who were present at the van der Sloot' that first morning.  And no statement was taken from the DEA agent.  Aruba simply wouldn't do it.

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REMINDER - of how these guys operate out on the town, not a care in the world

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DEEPAK and MICHAEL DOMPIG at Senor Frogs 2008


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SATISH AT FORMER CN'Cs now Senior Frogs 2008








 

taken from deposition of Satish being questioned about porn on his computer that he is trying to deny he watched or had.

OH MY GOSH BABCOCK HAS ME IN STITCHES!!!!!

'Chip' BABCOCK SAYS he would remember if he had seen Gay Santa Claus Porn, but stupid Satish doesn't!!!!

Deepak is trying to deny that this porn is on his computer
then he blurts out that one link is a download.   ::MonkeyDevil::

AND then
CHIP BABCOCK IS FUNNY - He's asking Deepak about the Naked granny and grandson German sex
and Babcock says "I'd remember that, but maybe you don't.

PAGE 31
BABCOCK asks Deepak if he downloaded porn with animals involved
BABCOCK: "Counld't help but ask that"
THEN Cremeer (deepaks attorney) shoots back: "I'd like to get a copy of your computer.
to which
BABCOCK says: "I'm never going to file a lawsuit.

KERMIT LOVES 'CHIP' BABCOCK!!!!

MUSIC
p.37 - Satisfaction video of naked women into the DVD player
p.41 - monitor is also in back seat

SCARE MONKEYS WAS FIRST TO POST THE PHOTOS/PORN VIDEO IN DEEPAKS CAR!

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PORN USE
Deepak is caught lying and his own attorney has to tell him to not be a smart ass.

Remember, we were trying to decide if the person in the video in Deepak's car was wearing a mask This is a screen capture/enhancement from the above photo in Bailey Ann's trip photos to Aruba in 2005.

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DON'T MISS THE DANA PRETZER SHOW AT 9PM ET TONIGHT!

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Click on the link below to listen now!
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u

Ribbit!

++++++

Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 11, 2005

<snipped>

On the way to the "Lighthouse" me and my brother sat in front and talked and Joran and the girl were in the back and talked. I could not hear what they were talking about. At approximately where the “La Cabana Hotel” was, Satish popped in a DVD that had nude scenes in it. The girl said in English “Oh my God, whats that” (loosely translated by reporting officer: Oh my God, What is that). I then said to Joran in English: “Now she is going to think that we're perverts (loosely translated by reporting officer: Now the girls is going to think we are perverts). After a while Joran said to Satish in Dutch. “Switch off the DVD, she has had enough of it. Satish complied with the request. I had been driving on, in the direction of Arashi.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=170.0

"Oh...you mean you're his father and you're here on vacation staying at the hotel?"

F'ng AHole.    ::MonkeyMad::

Sorry, Klaas!!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Mighta lost my head there for a minute, sotaspeak.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Sept. 19th
updated 6:33 a.m. PT, Tues., Sept. 20, 2005

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY‘S MOTHER: ... I don‘t think there was ever a question that Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot had been in that Excelsior Casino, and, particularly, on the night of the 29th where he and his father met Natalee.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9407728/


The Dana Pretzer Show – December 14th, 2006 Jossy Mansur and Wendy Murphy

DANA PRETZER: When you look at this case, a question keeps coming up. I am looking at the picture on my PC. It is the alleged picture of a person in the casino with Natalee that looks a lot like Paul. Has there been any update on this issue?

JOSSEY MANSUR: There have not been any change of opinion. People, including people in the casino say that is Paul.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2006/12/14/the-dana-pretzer-show-december-14th-2006-jossy-mansur/

No problem Lifesong - I feel the same way  ::MonkeyCool::  By the way, good to see you!

You too!   :salut: :2waver: :cyclopsani:


 ::MonkeyHaHa::     ::cartwheel::    ::MonkeyDance::

I like it when you lose your head for a minute.   ::ElfMonkey::

 ::MonkeyKiss::

One week has come and gone nine days ago.  The deadline is looming ... the deadline which Pervian law states that without a legal extention forthcoming ... Joran van der Sloot cannot no longer be detained.

Janet

Google translation:

NATALEE HOLLOWAY IS 40 METERS MORE THAN Joran was pointing. Joran and Natalee hid HIS FATHER THE FIRST NIGHT. CONCRETE IS PAID ON Natalee. ONLY 1 PERSON EVEN KNOW WHERE SHE IS, AND THAT IS NOT Joran.
You scared me to death.

OUR FILM HAS been right?

Someone commented a few days ago my blog by email.

This is no joke, this is what really happened:

I just do not do not reveal the name of the emailer.

More about that below.

The emailer said: You're not far wrong.

This means not only that: Our film is not far wrong.

That means ... that Natalee under concrete was poured.

Indeed, this confirmed that one.

Natalee is below the concrete.

Is the movie where they think she is?

He had not seen the movie yet.

I told our theory from the movie:

Joran's lies about where Natalee was pointing.

Indeed, he confirmed: approx.

But, he said, Joran knows the place yourself.

Because that only know his father, and one who has buried her.

And another one: The person himself.

What?

What about it?

I asked questions by email.

The person answered, sometimes vague, sometimes strongly.

After several emails back and I understood this:

Natalee was that fateful night in panic quickly clogged,

By Joran and his father.

Not really hidden: Natalee had so can be found,

The whole next day.

Why Joran also said: "I was lucky."

Joran's father now arranged one.

Someone who could trace Natalee soon disappear forever.

Joran's father must have pondering.

Who was he to do? Natalee and what time you go down the drain?

He thought of the construction sites of new homes?

Joran's father was someone that day,

While Natalee could be found any time.

Someone who made sure that Natalee was moved that night.

Later Natalee in the concrete poured.

Joran's father was also present?

Joran's father has to help bury and concreting,

because the other person could not do it?

Joran Joran's father has never told exactly where.

Joran also do not know where Natalee is under concrete.

The emailer know: 40 meters next to the place that Joran was pointing.

How many people know the exact spot where Natalee is?

Answer: Joran's father, begraver and emailer.

Joran's father is dead.

So two people know the exact spot.

The begraver be a friend of Joran's father.

While at least have had access to concrete.

Perhaps to the site, later pointed out that Joran.

Now there are houses.

Joran pointed the wrong house to Natalee's mother.

How else could he? He knows not the right place.

Joran knows who the begraver it is?

It was not clear to me whether my emailer knows Joran.

It was also unclear to me whether he is a joker.

He says not.

He is very well informed.

Maybe it's a joker.

That is of course very well.

But maybe not.

In that case, he knows where Natalee is.

And he knows who the begraver is.

Begraver who will never speak, that makes sense.

But maybe the emailer really like his heart skies.

I asked him if I could release his email address-

To John van den Heuvel, crime reporter.

No, that did not.

I respected that.

But I can now have a few nights of not sleeping.

Natural: Chances are that the emailer is a joker.

But suppose it is not so ...

Then my film at the very end ...

But of course what a thousand times more important:

Then Natalee could be found ...

So here it is I decide to opt for Natalee ...

As in the film, which also looks for a solution where they can be

And so I give the email address of the unknown free-

First to John van den Heuvel,

Simply because he will do anything to see ...

Natalee found or can be ...

Posted on 10/16/2011 by Paul Ruven

http://meandmrjonesonnataleeisland.blogspot.com/

 :smt102 :smt102

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/833/davetaped.jpg)
By LYING they made themselves public figures - go figger
The Kalpoe brothers were previously jailed in the case, but were rearrested last week and charged with being involved in the "voluntary manslaughter" of Holloway.


The Kalpoe brothers were arrested 3 times.  

June 2005 

August 2005 

November 2007

 

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/425/deepakgamecomputer.jpg)
DEEPAKS COMPUTER


(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9306/deepakkalpoesnewtickels.jpg)
Deepak Kalpoe tickel site photo




(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/859/deepakonkoensmyspace.jpg)
Deepak on koens myspace


(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8841/deepakshomesearched.jpg)
Aruba Polis search Kalpoes home and remove A COMPUTER - is it the same gaming computer
as seen in other photo?

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4391/wealllie.jpg)
Khemwattie:"WE ALL LIE!"


KALPOES ARE STILL SUSPECTS IN HOLLWAY CASE!

(http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/1294/kalpoesconsideredsuspec.jpg)
The judge reasoned Friday that “the new evidence, together with the existing evidence in this case, produce serious grounds for the suspicion of some kind of aiding and abetting, of covering up the traces of a crime committed or of the disposing of a corpse,” prosecutors said.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/11/30/aruba.holloway/index.html
AND
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/11/30/natalee-hoolloway-investigation-aruban-judge-orders-kalpoe-brothers-to-be-released/


(http://www.postimage.org/aVOjNqr.jpg)
KALPOES OUT ON THE TOWN IN ARUBA ENJOYING THEMSELVES WITH MICHARL DOMPIG THEIR COUSIN
Deepak told Frank Osman (Automotive Enterprises) that Natalee had her driver's license
and $50 on her......
 how'd he know that?



Judge Smid said the Kalpoe brothers were involved in body disposal.

WHAT IS HER INVESTMENT?

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7895/xarleneellisschipper.jpg)
Arlene Ellis-Schipper spokesperson for Aruba
Arlene Ellies-Schipper........worked with Paulus.....
Guido is her cousin
She is on the board of directors at CMB bank. 
CMB bank is where Paulus went the next day knowing his son was called to be interrogated by the polis
He went to the bank TWICE that day.

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4598/xarleneellisschipper2.jpg)
Arlene Ellis-Schipper spokesperson for Aruba

NO DAMAGES

Deepak's Words BEFORE The Dr. Phil Show


taken from the Transcript of Jamie Skeeters Tape w/Deepak Kalpoe (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=648.msg91866#msg91866)

"If you want me to take a polygraph for the show, you know.  I’ll talk it over with my attorney.  I’ll get back to you and (unintelligible)  But it’s not gonna help."  -  Deepak Kalpoe

"I don't have any close friends anymore;  they're all gone."  -  Deepak Kalpoe


"Everything is empty. The bottle is empty.  The party is...all gone."  -  Deepak Kalpoe


"But as far as me going on camera, it still just doesn't matter.  Because at the end of the night, everyone, still, when they go to bed, they think, "these boys know something."  It's gonna come down to that, so we gave up on that a long time ago."  -  Deepak Kalpoe


"Miami Dade college. All gone, it's over."  -  Deepak Kalpoe


"It’s over for us.  You know?  As far as our careers, our schools…"  -  Deepak Kalpoe


"No matter what we say…I mean, everything we say today, they just don’t believe us. At the end of the night, we still are suspects and stay... we’ll stay suspects."  -  Deepak Kalpoe


"Deepak, like Deepak Chopra"  -  Deepak Kalpoe    [Bwahahahahahahaha!!]


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=648.msg91866#msg91866

Lifesong,

Brilliant!

 ::MonkeyDance::

One week has come and gone ten days ago.  The deadline is looming ... the deadline which Pervian law states that without a legal extention forthcoming ... Joran van der Sloot cannot no longer be detained.

It is my prayer on behalf of the members of Stephany's family that the futility felt by Natalee's family is not repeated.

Also ... justice for Stephany Flores will provide of a measure of closure for Natalee's family.  The realization that Joran van der Sloot is in a place that implies other Natalees and Stephanys are not at risk at the hands of this young man who lacks a conscience.

Janet

+++++

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 189:   It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil.  It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are.  And evil is always two steps ahead. From the outset we never had a chance.  But we didn't know it.


Medical mystery tour brings (Beth) Holloway to Okoboji
Saturday, June 11, 2011

<snipped>

"For me, I have a perpetrator in prison, so I can't ask for anything more right now," Beth Holloway said. "That's where he belongs and now I'm able to focus and move onward in the help that I can do for others who have missing loved ones -- maybe they don't have recovery of their loved one's remains or they don't have a perpetrator in prison, so my hope is to shed enough light and to help them."

<snipped>

http://www.spencerdailyreporter.com/story/1735599.html


Natalee Holloway's Mom: Aruba Investigators 'Not Following Up on Any Leads'
Wednesday, November 19, 2008

<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.  I'm taking leave of the island, but not from the work yet to be done.

<snipped

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

A Life Changed Forever

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 23:  Rested and refreshed, we leave Memphis late Monday morning with Linda driving and Marilyn up front with her.  I take the backseat.  We sail along, chatting like we alway do, talking about our plans for another road trip one day soon.  Marilyn and I are happily speculating about what our daughters' reactions will be when they open their presents to find a set of extraordinary Wizard of Oz figures.  Natalee will gasp with excitement when she sees these.  Before we know it, we've crossed over into Mississippi.  Somewhere amid our conversation, between the chuckles and the small talk, my cell phone rings. I don't recognize the number, but answer it anyway, which I usually don't do.

It's a young girl.  "Mrs. Twitty?  My mom ... umm ... my mom, she umm ... wants to talk to you."  It's the daughter of Judi, the travel agent.  She developed appendicitis right before the trip, so she and Jodi didn't get to go to Aruba.  They are in Birmingham.  It seems like an eternity before Jodi takes the phone.

"Tell me what's going on," I say in a voice much firmer than the one I usually hear coming from my mouth.

She simply says, "Natalee didn't show up this morning to get on the plane."

And instantly I know.  It's more than a mother's intuition.  It's certainty.  Something terrible has happened.  I have just answered the proverbial dreaded phone call that no mother or father every wants to receive.  The one we fear from the moment our children are born.  The one that changes a parent's life forever.

No way the Peruvian deadline will be missed. I can't wrap my mind around that possibility. It just cannot happen. No, No, No, No, NO!

CBB

Hopefully ... the judge will grant an an extention if prosecutors fail to present a case that can go foward prior to the trial deadline.

Janet

++++

Joran van der Sloot unlikely to be freed
Published on 18 August 2011 - 9:57pm

It is highly unlikely that Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot will be released from remand before he stands trial, says Peruvian legal expert Mario Amoretti.

Van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of Stephany Flores, a 21-year-old student who was found dead in his hotel room in Lima over a year ago. He was arrested in June 2010 and has been in custody since. Under Peruvian law, remand is limited to 18 months.

Delay

The Flores family’s lawyer Edward Alvarez had complained that no indictment against Van der Sloot had yet been formulated. He warned that the delay could lead to the suspect being released to await the start of the trial in freedom in Peru.

The Peruvian justice authorities have confirmed that Van der Sloot’s remand can indeed be extended as Mr Amoretti says, but stress that there’s as yet no question of that being necessary. The Public Prosecutor is said to have received the file in July and to be dealing with the case.

<snipped>

http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/joran-van-der-sloot-unlikely-be-freed

I've posted pictures of Gianni Ferrara with Valentijn before, can't find one quickly...his kidnapping in 1998 is mentioned in this article of another attack at their home in Aruba.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/39100-atraco-arma-na-cas-di-comerciante-.html

Papiamentu translation:

atraco arm at home of doñonan of gianni's restaurant y confessions

friday, 04 november 2011 00:57

diabierna algo after of mey night one atraco owing to fracasa at l.g. smith boulevard. at home of one comerciante one security owing to wordo agredi by of one man cu owing to leave for of one mini van color blanco glass getint. the malechor owing to place arm of candela at cabes of the personal of seguridad y owing to exihi coin. the atracador owing to stay hand bashi already cu the security not was have none coin cun'e. is sospecha of one mitsubishi lancer color black cu glasnan getint of also is envolvi in the atraco. in pasado, already end criminalnan venezolano owing to enter the same cas here y secuestra yiu(nan) of the comerciante, exigiendo one suma astronomico for they recuperacion. after of some year, behold the same family y cas is become one blanco of criminalnan. family ferrara is propietario of gianni's restaurant, situa fast radisson resort.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.nov.nov04.atraco.DSC_2492.jpg)

Old article about the kidnapping...

http://notitarde.com/historico/1998/02/15/sucesos/sucesos12.html

Google translation:

Valencia, February 15, 1998

Editorial
Notitarde
CA

He was taken to Aruba

In Venezuela, the police are looking for an Italian boy

Caracas, February 14 .- The Gianni Ferrara Italian boy, aged 8, who was kidnapped on the island of Aruba on February 6, is wanted in Venezuela to the presumption that his captors are from the South American country said yesterday EFE Italian ambassador in Caracas, Vittorio Pennarola.

The diplomat said that the suspicion that the kidnappers are from Venezuela is based on the testimony of Gianni's sister who told police that three men took the boy spoke in Spanish with the same accent that several employees of the Venezuelan family.

Pennarola said that if the child had been held in Aruba at this time may already have discovered his whereabouts due to the small size -193 square miles - of the island, which is an autonomous territory belonging to the Netherlands.

Ferrara's family received a call two days ago, that seemed International, where they could hear the voice of his son, the hijackers allowed only pronounce a few words. (AP)

A big bulk of the recent documents filed were filed by the Plaintiff's and were "motions in LIMINE"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_in_limine
Motion in limine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Motion in limine (Latin: "at the threshold") is a legal written "request" or motion to a judge which can be used for civil or criminal proceedings and at the State or Federal level. A frequent use is at a pre-trial hearing or during an actual trial requesting that the judge rule that certain testimony regarding evidence or information may be included or excluded from the trial. The Motion is always discussed outside the presence of the jury and always decided by a judge. The reasons for the Motions are wide and varied, but probably the most frequent use of the Motion in Limine in a criminal trial is to shield the jury from information concerning the defendant which could possibly be unfairly prejudicial to him if heard at trial. [[File:FRE 403). Some others arise under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure for failure to comply with discovery.[1] [2] [3]
[edit]Example

Examples of the type of Motions in limine would be that the attorney for the defendant may ask the judge to refuse to admit into evidence any personal information, also any medical, criminal or financial records using the legal grounds that these records are irrelevant, immaterial, unreliable or unduly prejudical and/or that their probative value is outweighed by the prejudicial result to the defendant, or that the admittance of such information or evidence would otherwise violate one of the court's rules of evidence. A party proffering certain evidence can also ask for the admission of certain information or evidence via a motion in limine. This tactic can be especially useful if the admissibility of certain evidence critical to that party's case is in doubt.
If the motion 'in limine' to exclude evidence is granted, then the excluded records would be prohibited from being presented without specific approval from the judge at the time the party wants to offer the evidence.


(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Motion110211Kalpoe.jpg)

Thanks Klaas.

Janet

Ribbit!

Kermit ... this is what bothers me.  The Kalpoes and their attorneys must believe that the defamation lawsuit is derived from a solid foundation or ... they would have dropped the lawsuit long ago when the realization set in that Phil McGraw's attorneys were not about to settle.

Anyways ... what will be will be.

Janet

I'm not Kermit, but I hope you don't mind if I weigh in on this Janet.  Frankly, I don't believe the Kalpoes and their attorneys believe that the defamation lawsuit is "derived from a solid foundation".  I think  initially they all smelled money.  They expected Dr. Phil to pay out like a slot machine.  From what I gather, there are plenty of politicians, celebrities, athletes and such that have legal teams that will make an offer to pay even if the charges are somewhat flimsy just to settle.  However, Dr. Phil and his legal team have more interest in this than money.  I believe they are after getting information from the Kalpoes about the Natalee Holloway case.  And this is also why Team Kalpoe are delaying, delaying, delaying.  I believe if they withdraw their suit, they will be paying a lot of Dr. Phil's legal fees too.  The Kalpoes and their attorneys let their greed blind them and now the are ensnared.

If the Kalpoe and their legal team feel so strongly about the defamation lawsuit and if it is "derived from a solid foundation", why don't they step up and cooperate?  Why all the delay tactics?  Is it because their suit is so flimsy and/or they know there will be a lot revealed about the Natalee Holloway case if they get to court.  I think it's both, but mostly the latter.  JMHO

MuffyBee

You could be right.  However ... the longer the this defamation lawsuit drags out ... the more it is going to cost the Kalpoes (or their financial backers) in the end.  Don't they get it.

Janet

http://media7kcy.onlineview.it/GalleryFilmstrip.aspx?gallery=1309871&mid=28927418&mt=Photo&ci=008

rembrandt 21oct2011

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.msg878415#msg878415


 ::justice2NJ::

 :smt060  Justice for Natalee in 2011!   ::justice2NJ::

Considering the deadline ... the family of Stephany Flores was not pleased with how long the prosecutor was taking to present the initial case against Joran van der Sloot to the judge and ... then when that case was presented the Flores' attorney stated that the case was flawed to a point that when it went to trial the judge could rule a mistrial.

I believe if Stephany did not have influential/qualified advocates ... Joran would not be facing a trial ... a trial that the Prosecutor Miriam Riveros Castellares appeared to be attempting to prevent from taking place.

+++++

Woman's family wants speedy trial for van der Sloot
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 17, 2011 -- Updated 2200 GMT (0600 HKT

(CNN) -- The family of a slain Peruvian woman is urging prosecutors to file their case against murder suspect Joran van der Sloot, warning that he may be released by December unless the case goes ahead.

"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free," Ricardo Flores, the dead woman's father, told CNN.

Van der Sloot faces charges in the May 2010 killing of Stephany Flores, who was found dead in his Lima hotel room. Police say van der Sloot took money and bank cards from her wallet and fled to Chile, where he was arrested a few days later.

Investigators delivered their case file to prosecutors in June for a decision on charges. Ricardo Flores said the prosecutor in the case, Miriam Riveros Castellares, is "not moving with the speed that a case of this magnitude merits."

"We're asking that either the prosecutor file charges or that authorities remove her from this case and name somebody else," he said.

There was no immediate response to the family's concerns from the prosecutor's office.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/17/peru.van.der.sloot/


Peruvian judges to decide on trial date for Van der Sloot
Published on September 12, 2011

<snipped>

Alvarez said there were also some discrepancies with the evidence presented in the case and the official charges of voluntary manslaughter.

"We have said there are inconsistencies in the prosecution's account and its accusations, between the evidence it uses and what it is asking for. These inconsistencies could bring about negative consequences at trial because it could result in a mistrial," Alvarez said.

<snipped>

http://www.ntn24.com/news/news/peruvian-judges-decide-trial-date-van-der-sloot

s.t.

The flawed case was given back to the prosecutor but ... the judge was not satisfied with the revision and the case was then give to a "higher" prosecutor who has yet to present the his case against Joran van der Sloot.  In the meantime ... the deadline that could "potentially" allow Joran his freedom is looming.

Janet

+++++

Van der Sloot facing beefed up charges
Published: 9/18 8:52 am
Updated: 5:39 am

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The judge in Joran van der Sloot's murder case in Peru has told the prosecutor to beef up the charges against the Dutchman.

Basically, that means the judge agrees with arguments by the family of victim Stephany Flores that the crime should carry a life sentence.

<snipped>

At a preliminary hearing Monday the prosecution asked for a charge of murder followed by robbery. That would mean a maximum sentence of 30 years.

The Flores family has argued for a charge of robbery followed by murder which would carry a maximum life sentence.

<snipped>

Any delay in the case poses a potential risk that van der Sloot could get out of jail.

By December, he will have been held on remand for the maximum 18 months allowed under Peruvian law. This could mean he will be released and await the remainder of his trial as a free person. Given van der Sloot's history of international flight, that's a risk.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/mostpopular/story/Van-der-Sloot-facing-beefed-up-charges/zUNCesfA_kiQtUdxhWH74Q.cspx

No. The Kalpoe attorneys are trying to hide behind a wall and not hand over documents to Dr. Phil attorney's because they know if those documents are handed over - their goose is cooked.

I trust in "Chip" Babcock! The man is an amazing attorney as I have read through a lot of these documents and he knows exactly what he is doing and how to do it. Amazing study he is. I might put on the kermit suit and show up in court. Heh Heh

Janet,

do a comparison chart on how much money Aruba spends on promoting Tourism to paying attorney fees. Then you'll see the big picture. Apples vs oranges. tourism is why the backers of the Kalpoe lawsuit took place - they are more scared of their economy falling apart then they are about Kalpoes reputation. They [meaning Aruba] has people that are on these boards every day looking up information to send back to their cronies. That is what Caps and his buddies were doing too.....trying to protect their tourism industry.
MuffyBee is correct in her post that if the Kalpoe's had a case, they would already have turned over the documents ordered by the court. Look at that Arlene Ellis-Schipper and how she is claiming attorney client privileged in order to not turn over any correspondence between her and any of the Holloway case stuff. In fact, she stated they have gotten rid of some of it. Remember she is on the board of directors for CMB bank, she is also friends with Paulus at the time of Natalee's kidnapping/murder and she was placed on TV as a spokesperson who continually stated we didn't understand their system. Yet she was paid by the tourism cronies.

Just look how the Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba compares to Natalee and the way Aruba cover ups and can't find American tourists bodies. Just because they are holding Gary in a cell - believe me just like Joran he'll be let out.
And Aruba will say the case is still pending so they don't have to do anything.

Plus, there are plenty of American traitors helping them.

Kermit

I wish I could be as confident as you that the outcome of the defamation case will be positive.  I hope with all my heart that the Kalpoes lose big time but ... I have so many unanswered questions.

Could it be that the Kalpoes will be granted a trial by judge?  Think about it.  The Kalpoes' attorneys have failed time and time again to comply with the court's request to produce case documents and ... time and and time again the judge has failed to rule in favor of motions to dismiss for not complying filed by Phil McGraw's attorneys.

The judge has known from the getgo that no case documents would be forthcoming.  It is my worst fear that the Kalpoes' attorneys have convinced the judge that a manipulated Dr. Phil recording can stand alone.

I also question why McGraw's attorneys required case documents to prove defamation did not occur.  If the Dr. Phil recording was not manipulated ... it should speak for itself.  Deepak was not defamed!  He defamed himself!

I realize that the Dr. Phil recording was tested privately and submitted into evidence but ... I was hoping that FBI confirmation of no manipulation would have been where it was it.

Janet

++++++

Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007

<snipped>

KELLY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over, which was sort of, for lack of a better word, arrogant on his part. The court did not necessarily like that.

But I can't see them both using the courts as a sword and then a shield. They can't bring this action, they can't seek damages and not obey the orders of the court and expect their case to go forward.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html