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Title: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 29, 2013, 05:54:17 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/

www.drudgereport.com


Will someone help me understand, what is going on, peas?  Thank-you


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 29, 2013, 07:02:52 AM
http://www.france24.com/en/20130829-france-russia-warships-mediterranean-syria


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 29, 2013, 09:50:32 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/29/world/middleeast/us-facing-test-on-data-to-back-action-on-syria.html?_r=2&


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 29, 2013, 10:02:33 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/syria-chemical-weapons-un_n_3835088.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D365373

Give him more time, peas!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2013, 10:54:22 AM

1188 Comments

NBC poll: Nearly 80 percent want congressional approval on Syria

This story was originally published on Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:40 AM EDT



By Mark Murray, Senior Political Editor, NBC News

Nearly 80 percent of Americans believe President Barack Obama should receive congressional approval before using force in Syria, but the nation is divided over the scope of any potential strike, a new NBC News poll shows.

 ::monkeyscissors::


The NBC poll was conducted Aug. 28-29 of 700 adults (including 210 cell phone-only respondents), and it has a margin of plus-minus 3.7 percentage points

 ::snipping3::

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/30/20256971-nbc-poll-nearly-80-percent-want-congressional-approval-on-syria?lite


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2013, 11:00:48 AM
COOPER:




And Congress isn't scheduled to come back for another two weeks. Is there any chance they'll come back and early vote on Syria like their British counterparts did? Didn't seem like it.


BASH:

Very unlikely. I mean, first of all, look what happened in Great Britain, Anderson. I was told even before that happened that one of the reasons why even Republicans who run the House don't want to call the House back is because they don't want to have that kind of result.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2013, 11:04:20 AM


   

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ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES

U.S. May take Unilateral Action Against Syria; U.S. Officials: Syrian Regime Disclosed Making Preps For Chemical Attack; Nearly 9 Million Americans Using Prescription Sleeping Pills; Baffling Unknowns In Hannah Anderson Kidnapping


Aired August 29, 2013 - 20:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.





COOPER:




And Congress isn't scheduled to come back for another two weeks. Is there any chance they'll come back and early vote on Syria like their British counterparts did? Didn't seem like it.


BASH:

Very unlikely. I mean, first of all, look what happened in Great Britain, Anderson. I was told even before that happened that one of the reasons why even Republicans who run the House don't want to call the House back is because they don't want to have that kind of result.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1308/29/acd.02.html

 ::monkeyflag3::  Where is Congress?  ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2013, 02:17:22 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/30/us-syria-crisis-britain-idUSBRE97R1BD20130830

Iraq war ghosts end UK plans to take part in Syria action
(http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20130830&t=2&i=779751576&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=700&pl=300&r=CBRE97R1RE700)
By Andrew Osborn and Guy Faulconbridge

LONDON | Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:49am EDT

In a humiliating defeat for the British leader likely to damage Cameron's hopes of being re-elected in 2015 and set back traditionally strong U.S.-UK relations, parliament defied Cameron by 285 to 272 votes.

Commentators said it was the first time a British prime minister had lost a vote on war since 1782, when parliament effectively conceded American independence by voting against further fighting to crush the colony's rebellion.


 ::monkeyscissors::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2013, 02:18:44 PM
http://drudgereport.com/

 ::monkeyflag3:: Where is Congress  ::monkeyflag3::



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2013, 02:23:48 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/jimmy-carter-syria-peace-summit-96087.html


 Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit
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Former President Jimmy Carter condemned possible chemical weapons attacks in Syria, but called for a “peace conference” and working with the United Nations, rather than using a military solution.

In a statement Friday from the Carter Center, the former president said that the U.N. investigation into possible chemical weapons attacks in Syria is under way and urged against action in the country without U.N. support.

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 Advertisement“It is imperative to determine the facts of the attack and present them to the public. Those responsible for the use of chemical weapons must bear personal responsibility,” Carter said in the statement. “The chemical attack should be a catalyst for redoubling efforts to convene a peace conference, to end hostilities, and urgently to find a political solution.”

(PHOTOS: Scenes from Syria)

The Carter Center urged against a military response to possible chemical weapons use without a U.N. mandate, saying the action would be “illegal under international law and unlikely to alter the course of the war.”

“Instead, all should seek to leverage the consensus among the entire international community, including Russia and Iran, condemning the use of chemical weapons in Syria and bringing under U.N. oversight the country’s stockpile of such weapons,” the center said in the statement.


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Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2013, 04:58:07 PM

America's Chickens Come Home to Roost: Assad's Kid Taunts Obama on Facebook

August 30, 2013


Rush Limbaugh :)


TRANSCRIPT

RUSH:  Yeah, John Kerry must not want to be heard.  Whatever he's gonna say on Syria, he must not want anybody to hear it, because he's gonna speak at 12:30, about 25 minutes from now.  That means that nobody's gonna hear what he says.  That doesn't matter, my friends, because I am gonna tell you everything you need to know about Syria -- and really the only thing you need to know is that Bashar Assad's kid, the 11-year-old Hafez Assad Jr. ...


 ::monkeyscissors::
(http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/obamamontages/obamasyria11yearold/1179368-1-eng-GB/ObamaSyria11YearOld.jpg)

(http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/obamamontages/obamaheaddown/1179444-1-eng-GB/ObamaHeadDown.jpg)


 ::snipping3:: Syria, in and of itself, I don't know what our national interest there is, but Syria as part of the region is important. I mean, if Syria goes, so does Jordan.  If Al-Qaeda takes over Syria, there are some concerns here.  Still, despite that, I can't stop laughing. Here we have this Nobel Peace Prize winner, all of this smoke and mirrors. It was all a mirage.


 ::monkeyscissors::
RUSH:  By the way, CNN's reporting that Syrian rebels say that there has been another chemical gas attack.  It was last Monday, five days ago. So it's not now, five days ago, there was another gas attack.  NBC has a poll: "80% of the American People Want Congressional Approval on Syria."  Obama is not going to go to Congress, 'cause they're Republicans in Congress, and nobody likes Republicans, and Republicans don't agree with Obama. So we just gonna bypass 'em. The hell with the Constitution!

We go back to March 6, 2002, in White House Q&A. NBC correspondent Mike Viqueira is asking Obama about foreign policy intervention.

OBAMA:  For us to take military action, unilaterally, as some have suggested -- uh, or, uh, to, uh think that somehow there is some simple solution -- uh, I think is a mistake.

RUSH:  That was just a year ago.  Was a mistake to do what he's going to do today.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/08/30/america_s_chickens_come_home_to_roost_assad_s_kid_taunts_obama_on_facebook


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2013, 05:44:06 PM
http://www.humanevents.com/2013/08/30/will-boehner-stop-our-rogue-president/


 Editor's Choice Will Boehner stop our rogue president?


(http://www.humanevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/wpid-Boehner_2417210b.jpeg)

 By: Patrick J. Buchanan
 8/30/2013 06:00 AM
   ::monkeyflag3::

The next 72 hours will be decisive in the career of the speaker of the House. The alternatives he faces are these:

John Boehner can, after “consultation,” give his blessing to Barack Obama’s decision to launch a war on Syria, a nation that has neither attacked nor threatened us.

Or Boehner can instruct Obama that, under our Constitution, in the absence of an attack on the United States, Congress alone has the authority to decide whether the United States goes to war.


More...

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/08/30/will-boehner-stop-our-rogue-president/


http://www.humanevents.com/author/Patrick-J-Buchanan/[/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 05:10:39 AM

  Kerry: Sending a Message to Whom?
by Bernard Avishai Aug 30, 2013 5:30 PM EDT
 

  Secretary Kerry's trenchant, rallying speech laid out the case, but he and President Obama surely know that attacking Assad in ways constrained by their corresponding principles of action—"no boots on the ground," "limited in scope," or, as former ambassador Ivo Daalder put it on the PBS Newshour, "a punitive strike ... to send a message to the regime that this kind of behavior is unacceptable"—is something like trying to stabilize the picture on an old TV set by smacking it. What good it does bears no relationship to how good it feels.
(http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2013/08/30/kerry-sending-a-message-to-whom/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.503.jpg/1377898898901.cached.jpg)

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/30/kerry-sending-a-message-to-whom.html
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry delivers a statement about the use of chemical weapons in Syria at the State Department on August 26. (Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images)

Anticipating Kerry's speech, I checked in again last night with my friend Charles Glass in London, a reporter who knows Syria and Lebanon as intimately as any American. A graduate of American University of Beirut, he's covered the region for 40 years; he was once held hostage by Hezbollah, accompanied the invasion of Iraq, and reported from Aleppo last year. He was preparing to fly to Damascus as we spoke.

And I came away from our conversation believing what Kerry surely understands, that there are essentially two strategic choices for the U.S., the first diplomatic, the second, significant armed intervention. Neither presumes that a limited military action is a "message," unless, that is, the intended recipient is not Assad, but Lindsay Graham.

Let's get things straight. Syria is now fractured into zones controlled by 1) Assad, armed by Russia and backed by Iran, 2) Hezbollah, backing Assad's Alawite Shi'a sect, 3) the Kurds, always looking for ways of unifying the Kurdish homeland on the Iraqi border, 4) an insurgent Sunni-Islamist group, Jadhat al-Nusra—admiring (if not loyal to) Iraqi al Qaeda—and, 5) a (more or less) secular and (more or less) puny Free Syrian Army, the heart of an opposition ("maybe 1,200 free-floating groups") backed by Qatar, and led ("this month, anyway") by Ahmad Jarba, with ties to Saudi Arabia.




Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 05:42:11 AM
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/poll/what-would-you-do-about-syria-what-do-you-think-other-gretawire-bloggers-would-do-click-read-vote/

 08/30/2013 at 6:49 pm

What would YOU do about Syria? What do you think other GretaWire bloggers would do? Click, read, vote  ::MonkeyEek::


http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/08/30/email-from-fnc-james-rosen-with-list-of-calls-today-by-secretary-of-state-john-kerry/#disqus_thread   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 05:49:09 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/index.html

August 30, 2013

Has the White House bungled the Syria crisis?
Congressman who was just at Syrian border describes scene on ground, explains why he believes Pres. Obama has mishandled the crisis

 ::MonkeyTongue::
 
GretaWire Poll
Do you think President Obama will decide NOT to strike Syria within the next week?
Vote  View Results  (interesting view results)  :)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 05:54:42 AM
I apologize if I am over posting. 

Perhaps,  Monkeys (or guests) may like to understand or grasp this situation, IMO.

Greta seemed as puzzled on her show, about this self-made, crisis, so I am not alone. IMO

I keep thinking about my revolutionary grandfather, who enlisted four times, to serve in the
war, he must be rolling over in his grave. :(



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
 
The Washington Post
 
Russia sharply steps up criticism of U.S. over Syria
By Will Englund, Saturday, August 31, 8:49 AM


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-sharply-steps-up-criticism-of-us-over-syria/2013/08/31/532c48ea-1238-11e3-a2b3-5e107edf9897_print.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
Sixth U.S. ship now in eastern Mediterranean 'as precaution'

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Andrea Shalal-Esa 13 hours ago




The amphibious transport dock ship USS San Antonio (LPD 17) departs Naval Station Norfolk in Norfolk, …By Andrea Shalal-Esa

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A sixth U.S. warship is now operating in the eastern Mediterranean, near five U.S. destroyers armed with cruise missiles that could soon be directed against Syria as part of a "limited, precise" strike, defense officials said late on Friday.

They stressed that the USS San Antonio, an amphibious ship with several hundred U.S. Marines on board, was in the region for a different reason and there were no plans to put Marines on the ground as part of any military action against Syria.


http://news.yahoo.com/sixth-u-ship-now-eastern-mediterranean-precaution-025721221.html

 








Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 12:31:31 PM
http://drudgereport.com/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 12:41:19 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2013/08/31/sen-graham-pres-obama-has-mishandled-syria-badly-he-could-chickens-have-come-home-roost-l

Strikes on Syria- A question of the Obama's ego?



Sen. Graham: Pres. Obama has mishandled Syria as badly as he could, 'chickens have come home to roost' on 'leading from behind' foreign policy

Published August 30, 2013 | On the Record | On the Record

With: Sen. Lindsey Graham and Lt. Col. Oliver North



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2013/08/31/sen-graham-pres-obama-has-mishandled-syria-badly-he-could-chickens-have-come-home-roost-l#ixzz2dZ90fKrt



 ::MonkeyTongue:: Is this the "peace" president that I voted for?   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 12:48:51 PM



Sen. Graham: Pres. Obama has mishandled Syria as badly as he could, 'chickens have come home to roost' on 'leading from behind' foreign policy

Published August 30, 2013 | On the Record | On the Record

With: Sen. Lindsey Graham and Lt. Col. Oliver North



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2013/08/31/sen-graham-pres-obama-has-mishandled-syria-badly-he-could-chickens-have-come-home-roost-l#ixzz2dZAUOp8x



This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," August 30, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2013/08/31/sen-graham-pres-obama-has-mishandled-syria-badly-he-could-chickens-have-come-home-roost-l#ixzz2dZAgQngD


NORTH:

It would take guts for this guy to look into the camera and say I should not have said anything about a red line. What I am going to do is immediately beef up the security at every one of my embassies all over the Middle East and Sub-Saharan Africa, because as you and I both know, in nine days, you have the eve of another 9/11 attack. And those anniversaries really are important to the bad guys. So do that immediately.

Second
of all, go to the Israelis right now and say I'm going to pull back my horns. You've got the southern part of that country targeted. You take care of the things you need to take care of to make sure you're not going to hit as a reprisal, because Syria can't come after us, but the Iranians can go after the Israelis, not in Israel, but all around the rest, at every Israeli embassy on the planet.

Lastly,
what this president needs to do, should do right away, go to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, The Senate Select Committee with a covert action finding, say I want my risk-averse intelligence agencies to immediately hire 1,000 contractors, civilians who are military people who have gotten out, who speak the language, and there are thousands of them, who are now looking for something to do in an economy that has never turned around, and put them to work recruiting, training, and fielding a real Syrian freedom fighter movement. It can be done. Those people are out there. They've just not been given any weapons by Erdogan, our erstwhile NATO ally in Turkey.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2013/08/31/sen-graham-pres-obama-has-mishandled-syria-badly-he-could-chickens-have-come-home-roost-l#ixzz2dZADg2Ky


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 12:56:59 PM
Iran and Russia are working together to prevent a Western military attack on Syria.

 Russia even sent warships to the Mediterranean where U.S. destroyers are in position to strike if ordered.


Iran threatens payback on Syria; Russia sends warships

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Scroll to read


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/29/syria-iran-retaliation-threats-not-empty/2726493/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/29/syria-iran-retaliation-threats-not-empty/2726493/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 01:09:11 PM
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2013/1308/485_pol_obamasyria_0831.jpg



(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2013/1308/485_pol_obamasyria_0831.jpg)

Obama to Address Syria

President Barack Obama will not announce an imminent or ongoing military operation when he addresses the nation on the Syria crisis Saturday afternoon, a White House official said

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2013, 01:12:27 PM
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2013/1308/485_pol_obamasyria_0831.jpg



(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2013/1308/485_pol_obamasyria_0831.jpg)

Obama to Address Syria

President Barack Obama will not announce an imminent or ongoing military operation when he addresses the nation on the Syria crisis Saturday afternoon, a White House official said

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::

BARACK OBAMA - LIVE

CNN - 1:15 PM PT


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 01:13:04 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-deliver-remarks-syria-rose-garden_751512.html

President Obama will deliver remarks from the Rose Garden on Syria. Via the White House:

In the afternoon, the President will deliver a statement on Syria in the Rose Garden. The President’s remarks are pooled press.

1:15PM           THE PRESIDENT delivers a statement on Syria

                        The Rose Garden

                        Pooled Press (Final Gather 12:45PM – North Doors of the Palm Room)


12:26 PM, Aug 31, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2013, 01:13:25 PM
Self-Edit

PT s/b ET


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 01:22:01 PM
Is the President Nuts? » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names …

www.counterpunch.org/2002/10/02/is-the-president-nuts

Many people, inside and especially outside this country, believe that the American president is nuts, and is taking the world on a suicidal path. As a board-certified ...


 ::MonkeyCool::

I do not want to try this link. 

If someone reads this, will you please let me what it states?
T.Y.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
Is the President Nuts? » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names …

www.counterpunch.org/2002/10/02/is-the-president-nuts

Many people, inside and especially outside this country, believe that the American president is nuts, and is taking the world on a suicidal path. As a board-certified ...


 ::MonkeyCool::

I do not want to try this link. 

If someone reads this, will you please let me what it states?
T.Y.


Obama will not announce imminent military strike in Syria in address:

13:00 ish
 1 hour ago

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-not-announce-imminent-military-strike-syria-address-163735842.html

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://www.time.com/time/  (updates) nothing jaw dropping

www.drudgereport.com He is the BEST!  Since the dress :)


 ::MonkeyTongue::  Can Mrs O. give her husband something to do?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 02:20:47 PM
Is the President Nuts? » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names …

www.counterpunch.org/2002/10/02/is-the-president-nuts

Many people, inside and especially outside this country, believe that the American president is nuts, and is taking the world on a suicidal path. As a board-certified ...


 ::MonkeyCool::

I do not want to try this link. 

If someone reads this, will you please let me what it states?
T.Y.


 ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3::

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/open-thread/open-thread-blog-27/#disqus_thread


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on August 31, 2013, 02:38:02 PM
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/08/31/in-case-you-thought-congress-was-going-to-rush-back-to-consider-issue-of-military-action-the-gassing-of-innocents-click-to-read/


08/31/2013 at 2:30 pm


 ::monkeyflag3::

From Speaker Boehner –GOP Leadership Statement on Syria

 ::MonkeyDance::

WASHINGTON, DC – House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) and Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) today issued the following joint statement.

 ::monkeyflag3::

“Under the Constitution, the responsibility to declare war lies with Congress. We are glad the president is seeking authorization for any military action in Syria in response to serious, substantive questions being raised. In consultation with the president, we expect the House to consider a measure the week of September 9th. This provides the president time to make his case to Congress and the American people.”

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/08/31/in-case-you-thought-congress-was-going-to-rush-back-to-consider-issue-of-military-action-the-gassing-of-innocents-click-to-read/


  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 01, 2013, 03:34:29 PM
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/48LA6x1yIJU.KYSfX06AKw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNDI7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/photo_1378001325911-14-HD.jpg)

Me: A picture is worth a thousand words.

www.drudgereport.com (source)  No name, time or date.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 03, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/09/03/bodansky_what_if_bashar_didn_t_do_it


Bodansky: What If Bashar Didn't Do It?
September 03, 2013
 

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

(http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/images/obamasyria2/1179837-1-eng-GB/ObamaSyria2.jpg)





http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/images/obamasyria2/1179837-1-eng-GB/ObamaSyria2.jpg
A long article. ::monkeyflag3::




Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 03, 2013, 04:01:57 PM

On The Record
by Greta Van Susteren

Week nights 10:00 pm -11:00 pm

Tuesday on 'On the Record'


• We'll have the latest on the crisis in Syria with Amb. John Bolton, Allen West. Col. Oliver North and more

(http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/sites/foxnews.com.on-air.on-the-record/files/121_090313_greta_Obama_Assad.jpg)

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/index.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 03, 2013, 04:04:30 PM


               ::monkeyflag3::         

         www.drudgereport.com                   
       He keeps updating his site.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Blonde on September 03, 2013, 04:35:41 PM
Kerry, Hagel claim inaction on Syria 'dangerous' for US[/b
Secretary of State John Kerry testified on Tuesday that failing to strike Syria in response to a chemical weapons attack would open a "Pandora's box" of "dangerous consequences," leaving U.S. allies questioning the worth of America's word and U.S. enemies itching to test America's resolve.
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The argument was part of the forceful case Kerry made for military action in Syria, during the first Capitol Hill hearing on President Obama's request for authorization for a strike. The hearing came as the administration began to earn the support of congressional leaders, though some rank-and-file members continued to show reluctance.

Kerry, along with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, tried to sway lawmakers by claiming that the consequences of inaction would be more harmful than the consequences of a military strike. Kerry claimed the evidence is clear the Assad regime used chemical weapons and said America cannot "be spectators to slaughter."

"This is not the time for armchair isolationism," Kerry said, in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also testified.


 ::snipping3::


http://www.foxnews.com/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 03, 2013, 04:56:29 PM

 09/03/2013 at 10:45 am

Top Republican on Senate Armed Services Senator Inhofe disagrees with President Obama, Senators McCain and Graham


(http://cdn.gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/640_042612_greta_inhofe-562x316.jpg)


 10:45 am

Top Republican on Senate Armed Services Senator Inhofe disagrees with President Obama, Senators McCain and Graham —Note below from FNC Chad Pergram:

Urgent: Inhofe says he disagrees with McCain and Graham

 

Per Pergram-Capitol Hill

 

From Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK), the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee…
“Today my colleague Senator John McCain said after a visit to the White House that to reject military force in Syria would be ‘catastrophic’.

 ::snipping3::

 ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3::

“I continue to oppose military action in Syria because I am deeply concerned about the state of our military. The President has known about these grave national security threats for several years, yet our military — under his leadership — has experienced an unprecedented deterioration of readiness and capabilities. Let us not forget the words Gen. Dempsey spoke when he testified before Congress earlier this year about the President’s sequestration. He said that our military is being put on a path where the ‘force is so degraded and so unready’ that it would be ‘immoral to use the force.’ The catastrophe is already before us. The President can’t guarantee that military intervention in Syria will be brief or even reduce the violence, but he has to make that promise because our forces under President Obama could not sustain another war. If Assad attacks his neighbors, our military — already stretched thin due to underfunding — could reach the breaking point. When Congress returns, I encourage the President to swiftly put forward a long-term strategy for the region and the budget to back it for the sake of our men and women in uniform who will be the ones to make the greatest sacrifices in this effort.”

 ::monkeyflag3::
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/09/03/senator-inhofe-disagrees-with-senators-mccain-and-graham-click-to-read/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 03, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/no-syrian-war-to-save-obamas-face/


TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND

No Syrian war to save Obama's face!

Pat Buchanan: Why don't Turkey and Israel man up and strike Assad



 ::monkeyflag3:: Go Pat Go!  ::monkeyflag3::


16“Catastrophic!” said Sen. John McCain.

If Congress votes no on a resolution calling for U.S. intervention in Syria’s civil war, says McCain, it would be “catastrophic” for U.S. credibility in the world.

Consider what the senator is saying here.

Because Barack Obama, two years ago, said “Assad must go,” and, one year ago, said any use of chemical weapons crosses his “red line,” Congress has no choice but to plunge America into yet another Mideast war.

Can this be? Are we really, as a nation, required to go to war to make good the simple-minded statements of an untutored president who had no constitutional authority to issue his impulsive ultimata?

Are we really required to go to war to get the egg off Obama’s face?
 ::monkeyscissors::


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/no-syrian-war-to-save-obamas-face/#r8kcpdsdekbaiJ6s.99


http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/no-syrian-war-to-save-obamas-face/
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/no-syrian-war-to-save-obamas-face/#r8kcpdsdekbaiJ6s.99



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 03, 2013, 07:47:08 PM



THE RIGHT STUFF
Sarah Palin jumps into Syria dispute

'We're bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And I'm the idiot?'

Published: 1 day ago

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/sarah-palin-jumps-into-syria-dispute/#4ESoQMuTHVLtHAFl.99


(http://www.wnd.com/files/2013/07/120830_sarah_palin_ap_328.jpg)
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is condemning President Obama’s decision to wage war in Syria, despite White House claims of documented proof President Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons against his own people.

AAGReverse.com/ReverseMortgageGuidePalin, the Republican vice presidential candidate in 2008, unloads on Obama in a Facebook post titled: “Let Allah sort it out.”


“Bottom line is that this is about President Obama saving political face because of his ‘red line’ promise regarding chemical weapons,” Palin wrote.

 ::monkeyscissors::
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/sarah-palin-jumps-into-syria-dispute/#4ESoQMuTHVLtHAFl.99


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 03, 2013, 09:00:36 PM
(http://superstore.wnd.com/core/media/media.nl?id=5479&c=811217&h=b9fa10a323886691712e)

www.WND.com


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 04:19:56 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/04/putin-warns-military-action-syria#start-of-comments

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/9/4/1378280124600/Vladimir-Putin-008.jpg)
Photograph: Ria Novosti/Reuters



Interesting comments   ::rhino::  I am puzzled, again!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 05:04:07 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/02/bernard-henri-levy-on-obama-syria-putin-the-g-20-and-a-week-s-wait.html
(http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2013/09/02/bernard-henri-levy-on-obama-syria-putin-the-g-20-and-a-week-s-wait/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.503.jpg/1378211942955.cached.jpg)

 O.B.,Prime Minister Cameron, French President François Hollande, and Russian President Vladimir Putin meet at the G8 summit in June. (Jewel Samad/AFP/Getty)




Comment section below article


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 05:40:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyQg1xe540M


General Anthony Zinn (retired) speaks at about 6:32 / 8:15
I believe, the original date is: September 2, 2013 - 360 CNN Anderson Cooper

 ::MonkeyHeart::  General Zinn mades more sense than anyone on the planet, IMO

Published Sept.3, 2013


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 06:12:34 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/


September 3rd, 2013
08:09 PM ET

Comments (Add comment) 10 hours ago
 
Rand Paul compares John Kerry to a 'clairvoyant'

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Posted by CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) - Following his tense exchange with John Kerry at Tuesday's Senate hearing on Syria, Sen. Rand Paul said the secretary of state is overstating his certitude that a military strike against the regime of Bashar al-Assad will make the Middle East safer.

"Well, he sounds like he must be a clairvoyant because he can predict the future now and so we should ask him for stock picks, you name it, who's going to win the Kentucky Derby next year if he can guarantee the future," the Kentucky Republican said on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront."

FULL POST
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/03/rand-paul-compares-john-kerry-to-a-clairvoyant/

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 06:39:13 AM






 ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca0y0338W54

HotViralBreakingNews·254 videos


Published on Sep 3, 2013

Rand Paul compares John Kerry to a 'clairvoyant'  
(beginning of video clip)

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul Interview with CNN's Erin Burnett:
I Won't Vote to Send My Sons, or Your Sons & Daughters to Fight for a Stalemate.


 ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3::



(CNN) - Following his tense exchange with John Kerry at Tuesday's Senate hearing on Syria, Sen. Rand Paul said the secretary of state is overstating his certitude that a military strike against the regime of Bashar al-Assad will make the Middle East safer.

"Well, he sounds like he must be a clairvoyant because he can predict the future now and so we should ask him for stock picks, you name it, who's going to win the Kentucky Derby next year if he can guarantee the future," the Kentucky Republican said on CNN's "Erin Burnett Out Front."

 ::monkeyscissors::
 ::monkeyflag3::
http://youtu.be/ca0y0338W54
 ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 07:16:14 AM
My thoughts on John Kerry:

1.  He is a bully (IMO)

2.  He is a bad actor (IMO)

3.  Theresa is pretty (IMO)

 ::monkeyflag3::

I do have a few more comments...but, I will politely, refrain, from posting them . :)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 08:12:20 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-faces-syria-test-house-holds-1st-hearing-070929321--politics.html

Obama faces Syria test as House holds 1st hearing
By BRADLEY KLAPPER | Associated Press – 15 mins ago (est: 08:00-ish)


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View Photo.Associated Press/J. Scott Applewhite - Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel listens at right as Secretary of State John Kerry testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Sept. 3, 2013, before the Senate Foreign …more
The Comment section has plenty of good comments and great questions!    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/zFS86WW63ZU_JjO2tn7.YA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0xMDI0O3E9Nzk7dz03MjM-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/26d5a351d221691d3c0f6a7067006d0d.jpg)

U.S. President Barack Obama, left, walks the red carpet with Sweden's Foreign Minister Carl Bildt, right, at Arlanda Airport in Stockholm, Sweden, Wednesday Sept. 4, 2013. (AP photo / TT News Agency /... more


 http://news.yahoo.com/photos/u-president-barack-obama-left-walks-red-carpet-photo-100736554--politics.html?format=embed#mediaphotosbobaspotlightgallery=%2Flightbox%2Fu-president-barack-obama-left-walks-red-carpet-photo-100736554--politics.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 08:40:17 AM
The debate we should be having on Syria
 
David Rohde 39 minutes ago  (08:00) -est
U.S. President Barack Obama pauses while speaking about Syria to reporters during a meeting with Baltic ….By David Rohde

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On Tuesday evening, President Barack Obama boarded Air Force One, departed for Sweden and left behind a looming political disaster. Despite the endorsement of Republican and Democratic House leaders, many members of Congress remain deeply skeptical about the president's proposal to carry out cruise missile strikes in Syria. And they should be.

 ::monkeyscissors::
http://news.yahoo.com/debate-having-syria-115549149.html;_ylt=AwrB32jTKCdSAHUA3gYJVux_;_ylu=X3oDMTI5MHJiMGMzBG1pdANBVFQgMyBTdG9yeSBKdW1ib3Ryb24gSG9tZSBDYWNoZWQEcG9zAzUEc2VjA01lZGlhQXR0V2lkZ2V0cm9uQXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTFkcW51ZGliBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3BtaA--;_ylv=3


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 09:08:49 AM
(http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20130904&t=2&i=784732928&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=700&pl=300&r=CBRE9830I1V00)


MOSCOW | By Thomas Grove, Wed Sep 4, 2013 4:48am EDT

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia did not rule out approving a military operation in Syria if clear evidence showed Damascus had carried out chemical weapons attacks, but said any attack would be illegal without U.N. support.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/04/us-syria-crisis-russia-idUSBRE98307M20130904


Very interesting.  Will Putty get the US out of this chaos, by going to the UN? 


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: cookie on September 04, 2013, 09:15:25 AM
I am not an Obama fan at all. But I do think that this is a huge decision for the President?
I do not think that we can ever win in the Middle East. They do not want our influence in my opinion.
I agree with Rand Paul. Lots of civilians have been murdered in their own countries. Whether by gas or machete, should we go in each and every time? Would these other countries come to our defense?


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: cookie on September 04, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
Should not have a question mark after my first sentence above.....sorry


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 10:42:33 AM
Kerry and O, have turned America into The Gong Show. :(  Amusing comments.:)


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/04/obama-plans-to-engage-putin-despite-syria-strike-opposition/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 10:45:31 AM
I am not an Obama fan at all. But I do think that this is a huge decision for the President?
I do not think that we can ever win in the Middle East. They do not want our influence in my opinion.
I agree with Rand Paul. Lots of civilians have been murdered in their own countries. Whether by gas or machete, should we go in each and every time? Would these other countries come to our defense?

Cookie  "teddybear2::

The Syrians do not want American intervention.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Blonde on September 04, 2013, 01:55:37 PM
My thoughts on John Kerry:

1.  He is a bully (IMO)

2.  He is a bad actor (IMO)

3.  Theresa is pretty (IMO)

 ::monkeyflag3::

I do have a few more comments...but, I will politely, refrain, from posting them . :)



I think he either gained some weight or had a face lift


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 03:32:30 PM
My thoughts on John Kerry:

1.  He is a bully (IMO)

2.  He is a bad actor (IMO)

3.  Theresa is pretty (IMO)

 ::monkeyflag3::


 ::rhino::
I do have a few more comments...but, I will politely, refrain, from posting them . :)



I think he either gained some weight or had a face lift


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/04/senate-breaks-own-rules-in-rush-to-vote-on-syria-war.html


Senate Breaks Own Rules in Rush to Vote on Syria War
by Josh Rogin Sep 4, 2013 2:53 PM EDT

Senate Democratic leadership tossed aside the rules for moving legislation with regard to the resolution authorizing the use of military force against Syria, angering some Republicans and creating confusion on Capitol Hill in the run up to the war vote.


The Senate Foreign Relations Committee narrowly approved a modified war resolution Wednesday afternoon by vote of 10-7 with one member, Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA), voting present. The committee's action allows Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) to bring the measure to the floor as early as Friday, following a break for the Jewish holidays. That would allow a vote by the full Senate as soon as Monday, giving the Senate a chance to pass a war resolution before the House has a chance to craft and pass a resolution of its own.

 ::monkeyscissors::


http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/sep/4/liberals-reject-obamas-case-syria-strikes-believe-/

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  This is interesting - takes a little time to absorb  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 04:47:26 PM
(http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/multimedia2/kerry090413_2/1180626-1-eng-GB/Kerry090413_2.jpg)


 ::monkeyscissors::
September 04, 2013

RUSH: He had no point he was trying to make.  He was hoping that every word would make sense when it followed another word, and he was praying that it would end in a way that made sense to somebody.  And it didn't.

"Read Transcript" icon, if you wish to read more, some don't. :)

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 04:53:05 PM
(http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/images/kerryblood1/1180620-1-eng-GB/KerryBlood1.jpg)
 ::monkeyscissors::

(Rush Limbaugh is speaking)

These Code Pink people are sitting behind the witnesses at these hearings.  They are holding up, their hands are all red made to look bloody and everybody is just ignoring them.  It's the funniest thing.  I wish I could accurately describe it.

 ::monkeyscissors::
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/09/04/john_f_kerry_blithering_idiot


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 04:57:40 PM
BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH:  John Kerry said today at a Washington hearing on Syria that Arab countries have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating Bashar Assad if we will take the lead militarily.  We're the help, folks!  We're the temporary agency.  Unbelievable.

END TRANSCRIPT
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/09/04/john_f_kerry_blithering_idiot


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 05:04:12 PM


http://drudgereport.com/

Updates.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 05:27:21 PM
My thoughts on John Kerry:

1.  He is a bully (IMO)

2.  He is a bad actor (IMO)

3.  Theresa is pretty (IMO)

 ::monkeyflag3::


 ::rhino::
I do have a few more comments...but, I will politely, refrain, from posting them . :)



I think he either gained some weight or had a face lift


Cookie, he is a 'clairvoyant', that is why his appearance has changed. :smt054

He looked bazaar during his Presidential campaign, remember?   ::MonkeyEek::

Too many suntans, is what I think. Mr. Sun will catchup to your complexion. ::rhino::

Rand Paul, knows his stuff, what a guy! ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 05:33:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca0y0338W54

Published on Sep 3, 2013

Sen. Rand Paul to John Kerry after Syria Hearing: No One Can Guarantee the Future -

Rand Paul compares John Kerry to a 'clairvoyant'

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul Interview with CNN's Erin Burnett: I Won't Vote to Send My Sons, or Your Sons & Daughters to Fight for a Stalemate.

(CNN) - Following his tense exchange with John Kerry at Tuesday's Senate hearing on Syria, Sen. Rand Paul said the secretary of state is overstating his certitude that a military strike against the regime of Bashar al-Assad will make the Middle East safer.
"Well, he sounds like he must be a clairvoyant because he can predict the future now and so we should ask him for stock picks, you name it, who's going to win the Kentucky Derby next year if he can guarantee the future," the Kentucky Republican said on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront."
Kerry argued at the hearing that allowing al-Assad to go unpunished for what the administration alleges was his regime's use of chemical weapons could escalate tensions in the Middle East, given that Iran and Hezbollah are two of Syria's biggest allies.
And when Paul argued it's not known whether Assad would use chemical weapons, Kerry interjected, saying: "Senator, it is not unknown."

"If the United States of America doesn't hold him accountable on this, with our allies and friends, it's a guarantee Assad will do it again, a guarantee. And I urge you to go to the classified briefing and learn that," Kerry said before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the first public hearing after the president said he would seek congressional approval before attacking Syria.

Paul continued to say Tuesday night the situation is too unpredictable.

"No one can guarantee the future. We don't know how Assad will react and I think there's an equal argument to be made if the U.S. bombs him, that it will be more likely that he launches another gas attack, more likely that he might attack Israel. More likely that there will be more instability in the region," Paul said, adding that it's also more likely that Russia and Iran may get more involved.

"So, I think there are arguments to be made on both sides of this, but it's not some kind of slam dunk guarantee that Secretary Kerry makes it out to be," Paul said.

The secretary of state said Israel is prepared to defend itself should Hezbollah decide to attack, and the consequences of inaction by the U.S. far outweigh action when it comes to regional stability and chemical weapons.

"If Iran and Hezbollah are advantaged by the United States not curbing Assad's use of chemical weapons, there is a much greater likelihood that at some point down the road, Hezbollah...will have access to these weapons of mass destruction," Kerry said at the hearing.


Sen. Rand Paul to John Kerry after Syria Hearing: No One Can Guarantee the Future - 9/3/2013 . HotViralBreakingNews·265 videos


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 05:45:07 PM
I don't know if Kerry, McCain, and Hagel, want to refight the Viet Nam, over, or what.
This is puzzling how these three guys, are in a war frenzy.  I keep thinking about all the injured Vets, and the deceased veterans, who trusted the goverment through deception.

I keep in mind the people who lost ones. What is the mission, in Syria? 

I love Nancy Grace how she always remembers a veteran, at the end of her problem.  :smt054

What is the Syrian Mission?   ::MonkeyEek::

 ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/x8jYJQ51_dBRGzZ_qIw2Nw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNjE7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2013-09-04T170117Z_1631236442_GM1E99502R701_RTRMADP_3_SYRIA-CRISIS-USA-VOTE.JPG)

http://drudgereport.com/





Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 05:57:13 PM
COMMUNITY ORGANIZER GOES TO WAR  ::MonkeyHaHa::
September 4, 2013


 ::monkeyscissors::

With the vast majority of Americans opposing a strike against Syria, President Obama has requested that Congress vote on his powers as commander in chief under the Constitution. The president doesn't need congressional approval to shoot a few missiles into Syria, nor -- amazingly -- has he said he'll abide by such a vote, anyway.

Why is Congress even having a vote? This is nothing but a fig leaf to cover Obama's own idiotic "red line" ultimatum to President Bashar al-Assad of Syria on chemical weapons. The Nobel Peace Prize winner needs to get Congress on the record so that whatever happens, the media can blame Republicans.
 ::monkeyscissors::


http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2013-09-04.html

  :(  I am sorry to say that the "Community Organizer" fooled me, at least the first time. :(



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 08:54:06 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: Former Community Organizer Vs.  Former KGB Man  ::MonkeyEek::


Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin set for collision over Syria at G20 summitRussian president signals he will take action if America strikes at Assad as US counterpart admits relations have hit a wall

Patrick Wintour and Dan Roberts in Washington The Guardian, Wednesday 4 September 2013 16.45 EDT

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/9/4/1378327456585/Vladimir-Putin-010.jpg)
Photograph: Barcroft Media

Vladimir Putin said that Russia might restart ­Syria’s suspended S-300 air defence ­missile contract.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/04/obama-putin-syria-g20-summit


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 09:04:34 PM
Revealed:
 ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyTongue::
Pentagon knew in 2012 that it would take 75,000 GROUND TROOPS to secure Syria's chemical weapons facilities

By David Martosko
PUBLISHED: 19:20 EST, 4 September 2013 | UPDATED: 19:24 EST, 4 September 2013


Securing Syria's chemical weapons stockpiles and the facilities that produced them would likely require the U.S. to send more than 75,000 ground troops into the Middle Eastern country, MailOnline learned Wednesday.

That estimate comes from a secret memorandum the U.S. Department of Defense prepared for President Obama in early 2012.

U.S. Central Command arrived at the figure of 75,000 ground troops as part of a written series of military options for dealing with Bashar al-Assad more than 18 months ago, long before the U.S. confirmed internally that the Syrian dictator was using the weapons against rebel factions within his borders.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/05/article-2411885-1B6FCF15000005DC-304_638x417.jpg)


U.S. Central Command arrived at the figure of 75,000 ground troops as part of a written series of military options for dealing with Bashar al-Assad more than 18 months ago, long before the U.S. confirmed internally that the Syrian dictator was using the weapons against rebel factions within his borders.

 ::monkeyscissors::

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2411885/Revealed-Pentagon-knew-2012-75-000-GROUND-TROOPS-secure-Syrias-chemical-weapons-facilities.html






Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 04, 2013, 09:21:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtjQjGTEylo

U.S. Armed Forces Oath of Enlistment - Hear the Text

 ::monkeyflag3::




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgRocyLsGCE

Preamble of the US Constitution EXPLAINED
 ::monkeyflag3::



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwZXqHofk9I

Key Concepts of the US Constitution


 ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 06:46:15 AM

Hi Monkeys and Guest,


I am Trying to stay informed.  ::rhino::

 

    ::MonkeyEek::      https://twitter.com/DRUDGE_REPORT

                             http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/


 ::monkeyflag3::  http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

                  http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm





 


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 06:57:46 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/putin-obama-g20-syria-russia-96291.html

Updates on this and that.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 07:11:27 AM
Wasn't Obama Going to Use Diplomacy?
September 04, 2013

 BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Here's Darrell in Prospect, Pennsylvania.  Great to have you on the EIB Network.  Hello.

CALLER:  Hey, hi, Rush.  It's a real pleasure to talk with you, and I've been trying to talk to you for a long time.

RUSH:  Well, I'm glad you made it through here, Darrell.

CALLER:  Hey, great.  I wanted to talk to you about Syria. It just amazes me that we have all this talk about a military strike and no one seems to remember that we have the greatest president, the brightest guy ever, who was elected in 2008 on the promise that he would bring our troops home.  In addition to that, he also said that he would sit down with anybody to work things out.  Now, Syria is a civil war of Muslims.  Obama has a Muslim background, certainly qualified.  He should be over there talking with the parties.

(http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/obamamontages/obamanobelprize/1180638-1-eng-GB/ObamaNobelPrize.jpg)

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/09/04/wasn_t_obama_going_to_use_diplomacy
 ::dogwag::

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/stations



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 07:16:05 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10288193/Syria-crisis-G20-summit-live.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 07:26:47 AM

 ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCSAJlOUlc

Obama-Peace Train

Uploaded on Jun 18, 2008




Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 08:57:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4c4YuAUByw

Obama & Kerry Caught Misleading on Syria & Weapons Inspectors?

Published on Sep 3, 2013


  ::MonkeyEek::  I am trying to make sense of all of this ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 09:54:19 AM
WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) – A Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman warned any military intervention in Syria would create a nuclear disaster.

“If a warhead, by design or by chance, were to hit the Miniature Neutron Source Reactor (MSNR) near Damascus, the consequences could be catastrophic,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich stated, according to Russia Today.

Lukashevich said if a military strike were launched without seeking approval from the United Nations Security Council  that new suffering for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa would occur. He added that the region could be at risk of “contamination by highly enriched uranium and it would no longer be possible to account for nuclear material, its safety and control.”
 ::monkeyscissors::

   ::MonkeyTongue::            Did anyone THINK of that?


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 09:55:09 AM
WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) – A Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman warned any military intervention in Syria would create a nuclear disaster.

“If a warhead, by design or by chance, were to hit the Miniature Neutron Source Reactor (MSNR) near Damascus, the consequences could be catastrophic,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich stated, according to Russia Today.

Lukashevich said if a military strike were launched without seeking approval from the United Nations Security Council  that new suffering for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa would occur. He added that the region could be at risk of “contamination by highly enriched uranium and it would no longer be possible to account for nuclear material, its safety and control.”
 ::monkeyscissors::

   ::MonkeyTongue::            Did anyone THINK of that?

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/09/05/russia-warns-of-nuclear-disaster-if-syria-is-hit/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 10:20:49 AM
http://www.politico.com/politico44/?hp=ar


Vladimir Putin allows Syria discussion at G-20
By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 9/5/13 9:54 AM EDT



Russian President Vladimir Putin said he will allow discussion of Syria during Thursday night's working dinner at the G-20 economic summit.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/?hp=ar


http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_RU-MOW.aspx


  ::MonkeyEek::   What time is dinner?   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: cookie on September 05, 2013, 12:19:26 PM
I am not an Obama fan at all. But I do think that this is a huge decision for the President?
I do not think that we can ever win in the Middle East. They do not want our influence in my opinion.
I agree with Rand Paul. Lots of civilians have been murdered in their own countries. Whether by gas or machete, should we go in each and every time? Would these other countries come to our defense?

Cookie  "teddybear2::

The Syrians do not want American intervention.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



I know.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 04:04:17 PM
I question if John Kerry has sold America's soul to the Saudi's? IMO


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 04:07:06 PM
Putin calls Kerry a liar on Syria

David Jackson, USA TODAY 3:31 p.m. EDT September 5, 2013


http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/09/05/obama-kerry-putin-syria-russia-g-20/2769683/



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 05:25:35 PM
Russian warships cross Bosphorus, en route to Syria

1 Hour and 10 minutes ago -16:15 rough time


Three Russian warships crossed Turkey's Bosphorus Strait Thursday en route to the eastern Mediterranean, near the Syrian coast, amid concern in the region over potential US-led strikes in response to the Damascus regime's alleged use of chemical weapons.

 ::monkeyscissors::

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-warships-cross-bosphorus-en-route-syria-141156573.html

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Note: The Russian's have a naval base in Syria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_naval_facility_in_Tartus


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 05:49:09 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/comments/idUSBRE97S10U20130829

Russia sends warships to Mediterranean as Syria tension rises.

Aug 29, 2013 3:47pm EDT  -- 

comments follow 

::MonkeyTongue::

Maybe that ding-a-ling president should bring his ships back, IMO

This is not the peace I voted for when I elected that ding-a-ling in office.



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 06:06:33 PM



 ::MonkeyEek::

Russia sends spy ship as US prepares for possible Syria strike

Priazovye sails from Black Sea naval base as Vladmir Putin says deployment necessary to protect Russian security interest.

Reuters in Moscow
theguardian.com, Monday 2 September 2013 04.49 EDT

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/9/2/1378111047464/Vladimir-Putin-1913-006.jpg)

Vladimir Putin said the ship was needed to protect national security interests. Russia has a naval facility in the Syrian port of Tartous. Photograph: Itar-Tass/Barcroft Media

Russia is sending a reconnaissance ship to the eastern Mediterranean as the US prepares for a possible military strike in Syria, it was reported on Monday.

The Priazovye left Russia's naval base in the Ukrainian Black Sea port of Sevastopol late on Sunday on a mission "to gather current information in the area of the escalating conflict", said an unidentified military source quoted by the Interfax news agency. The defence ministry declined to comment.




 ::monkeyscissors::

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/02/syria-russia-spy-ship-us-military



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-us-evidence-syria-20165634

Russian Ships Near Syria to Evacuate Civinslia
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia September 5, 2013 (AP)


The Kremlin's chief of staff says Russia has been sending warships to the Mediterranean Sea for possible evacuation of Russian citizens from Syria.

Russian news agencies on Thursday quoted Sergei Ivanov as saying that Russia has been boosting its naval presence in the Mediterranean "primarily" in order to organize a possible evacuation of Russians from Syria.


 ::snipping3::

  ::MonkeyTongue::  Who believe this? 


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 08:22:30 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Republican congressman withdraws support for Syria strike

By Aaron Blake, Updated: September 5, 2013

Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.), who on Saturday said he supported President Obama’s decision to launch military action in Syria, has changed his mind.


Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.), who on Saturday said he supported President Obama’s decision to launch military action in Syria, has changed his mind.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/09/05/republican-congressman-withdraws-support-for-syria-strike/?print=1


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 08:29:49 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/just-whose-war-is-this/
 ::MonkeyHeart::

SYRIA STRIKE
Just whose war is this?

Pat Buchanan decries notion of Americans 'hired out to do the big-time killing for royals'

Published: 3 hours ago (about 17:00)

 ::MonkeyHeart::

Wednesday, John Kerry told the Senate not to worry about the cost of an American war on Syria.

The Saudis and Gulf Arabs, cash-fat on the $110-a-barrel oil they sell U.S. consumers, will pick up the tab for the Tomahawk missiles.


Has it come to this – U.S. soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen as the mercenaries of sheikhs, sultans and emirs, Hessians of the New World Order, hired out to do the big-time killing for Saudi and Sunni royals?


MORE...

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/just-whose-war-is-this/#cfphrmxB3rQ8VVJl.99

 ::monkeyflag3:: Go Pat Go!  ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 08:43:37 PM
Obama could lose big on Syria in House
By JOHN BRESNAHAN and JAKE SHERMAN | 9/5/13 8:14 PM EDT

(http://images.politico.com/global/2013/09/05/130905_boehner_obama_pelosi_syria_ap_605.jpg)

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/obama-syria-house-vote-96347.html?hp=t1



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 08:55:10 PM
 
Rep. Alan Grayson: Syria Intelligence Manipulated  ::MonkeyShocked::

By Steven Nelson

September 5, 2013

Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., who is aggressively lobbying against a military strike on Syria, says the Obama administration has manipulated intelligence to push its case for U.S. involvement in the country's two-year civil war.


http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan-grayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: cookie on September 05, 2013, 09:41:52 PM
I did not vote for Obama. I had high hopes for him but that faded last term.
His leadership is scary imo


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 10:37:18 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/senate-bill-syria-weapons-ban-96353.html?hp=l2

These two have a genius idea!   ::monkeyflag3::


 ::MonkeyEek::
The Whitehouse has put our country (and the whole world), through all these crap, and now
there is a simple solution, MAYBE! Maybe, Maybe!




Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 10:41:02 PM
I did not vote for Obama. I had high hopes for him but that faded last term.
His leadership is scary imo


 ::MonkeyTongue::
Cookie, I will have a very difficult time forgiving myself for being such a  fool.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 10:44:24 PM
I did not vote for Obama. I had high hopes for him but that faded last term.
His leadership is scary imo


 ::MonkeyTongue::
Cookie, I will have a very difficult time forgiving myself for being such a  fool.

He runs the Country like a child would.  I have actually known smarter, braver and more mature children.  "O" is a spoiled brat, IMO.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 10:56:25 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/senate-bill-syria-weapons-ban-96353.html?hp=l2

These two have a genius idea!   ::monkeyflag3::


 ::MonkeyEek::
The Whiteh(http://)ouse has put our country (and the whole world), through all these crap, and now
there is a simple solution, MAYBE! Maybe, Maybe!




This Bill idea is being floated by two genius Senator's  :) 

 Senate bill would give Syria 45 days to sign chemical weapons ban
     
Manchin and Heitkamp's alternative could forestall an immediate American strike.

 By JONATHAN ALLEN | 9/5/13 9:31 PM EDT
 
The United States would give Syria 45 days to sign an international chemical weapons ban or face the wrath of American military might, under a draft resolution being circulated by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.).

The alternative to a use-of-force resolution could forestall an immediate American strike and create an incentive for Assad not to use chemical weapons against his own people again. It may also provide a rallying point for lawmakers who are reluctant to either approve strikes or reject the use of force outright.



http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/senate-bill-syria-weapons-ban-96353.html?hp=l2


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 11:51:17 PM
This link is for the curious :

Think Progress Syria Whip Count [Updated 9/5, 4:00PM] : House

A  list of House Reps. if you are interested in learning how your Rep is leaning to vote.

A cool email icon if you wish to email your Rep.




http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/09/02/2561371/congress-support-military-action-syria-thinkprogress-whip-count/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 05, 2013, 11:59:34 PM
(http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Syria-Whip-Count-graphic.jpg.png)

You need to scroll for the list of reps and email icon. ::rhino::


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/09/02/2561371/congress-support-military-action-syria-thinkprogress-whip-count/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 12:44:18 AM
Syria crisis: Barack Obama faces growing opposition to airstrikes as he arrives for G20

President Barack Obama is facing growing international opposition to military intervention in Syria as China, the European Union and the Pope all warned against attacks on the Assad regime.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02662/obama_2662948b.jpg)
US president Barack Obama at the G20. Photo: AFP

 By James Kirkup, Political Editor in St Petersburg

6:50PM BST 05 Sep 2013
 Syria crisis: G20 summit - latest

Mr Obama arrived St Petersburg for a tense G20 summit amid signs that Russia's opposition to US airstrikes was gaining significant international support.


 ::snipping3::
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10289837/Syria-crisis-Barack-Obama-faces-growing-opposition-to-airstrikes-as-he-arrives-for-G20.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 12:52:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4c4YuAUByw

Obama & Kerry Caught Misleading on Syria & Weapons Inspectors?

Published on Sep 3, 2013


  ::MonkeyEek::  I am trying to make sense of all of this ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/05/alan-grayson-syria-intelligence-manipulated

 ::monkeyflag3:: I put both related links together: 2+2 = 4 


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 12:59:28 AM
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/Foden20130906-kerry20130905075218.jpg)
By Glenn Foden - September 05, 2013
http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2013/09/05/111993


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 01:11:06 AM
Military solution in Syria would be futile, Pope tells G20
By Philip Pullella | Reuters – 15 hrs ago


(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/W1EsKe7XQuNt3OofB8kNUw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTI4MDtweW9mZj0yNTtxPTg1O3c9NDMw/http://l.yimg.com/nn/fp/rsz/090513/images/smush/pope_ipad_1378393194.jpg)

http://news.yahoo.com/military-solution-syria-futile-pope-tells-g20-133932802.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 02:06:32 PM


Syria crisis: Obama says US not looking for 'excuse' to take military action – live•
President makes case for strikes in G20 summit remarks


• Putin says support for military action is weak
• Obama says global community 'paralyzed, frozen'
• Read the latest summary
Friday 6 September 2013 13.51 EDT

Tom McCarthy and Matthew Weaver
theguardian.com
ocomments 1003



(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/9/6/1378466254012/b20876f8-1a57-4178-bd1f-c2497381180e-620x372.jpeg)

Russian President Vladimir Putin walks past Barack Obama during a group photo at the G20 Summit in St. Petersburg. Photograph: Kevin Lamarque/Reuters

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/06/syria-crisis-splits-g20-live


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 02:11:16 PM
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/holb_c11199420130906120100.jpg)
By Jerry Holbert - September 06, 2013
http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2013/09/06/111994



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 02:30:22 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57601648/russia-cancels-syria-lobbying-mission-to-d.c.-more-russian-war-ships-reportedly-head-for-mediterranean/

CBS News/ September 6, 2013, 6:30 AM
Russia cancels Syria lobbying mission to D.C.; More Russian war ships reportedly head for Mediterranean

(http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim2/2013/09/05/Obama_Putin_AP749035609417_620x350.jpg)
President Obama speaks with Russia's President Vladimir Putin during arrivals for the G-20 summit at the Konstantin Palace in St. Petersburg, Russia, Sept. 5, 2013. / AP


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 02:42:55 PM


http://news.yahoo.com/russia-sends-warship-special-cargo-syria-102835383.html
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/E71494I1LqzzTtbajZdVfw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9NTEyO2NyPTE7Y3c9NzY4O2R4PTA7ZHk9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0xMjc7cT04NTt3PTE5MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/photo_1378463180036-1-HD.jpg)
Russia sends "special cargo" to Syria ::MonkeyShocked::

8 hrs ago.

A Russian warship carrying "special cargo" will be dispatched toward Syria, a navy source said on Friday, as the Kremlin beefs up its presence in the region ahead of possible US strikes against the Damascus regime.

The large landing ship Nikolai Filchenkov will on Friday leave the Ukrainian port city of Sevastopol for the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiisk, from where it will head to Syria's coast, the Interfax news agency quoted a source from the Saint Petersburg-based central naval command as saying.

"The ship will make call in Novorossiisk, where it will take on board special cargo and set off for the designated area of its combat duty in the eastern Mediterranean," the source said.

The source did not specify the nature of the cargo.

Russia has kept a constant presence in the eastern Mediterranean during the Syrian crisis.

In recent days Russia has made steps to beef up its naval grouping in the region.

The Russian destroyer Smetlivy will soon join the group in the region as well as the destroyer Nastoichivy, Interfax has said.

The anti-submarine ship Admiral Panteleyev has already entered its zone of operation as the flagship of the current rotation of the Mediterranean grouping, a military source has told the news agency.

Already in place in the eastern Mediterranean are the frigate Neustrashimy, as well as the landing ships Alexander Shabalin, the Admiral Nevelsky and the Peresvet.

They are expected to be joined by the large landing ships Novocherkassk and Minsk and the missile cruiser Moskva. The reconnaissance ship Priazovye is also on its way to join the group.

The US already has a strong naval presence in the region and any US military action against Syria is widely expected to be launched from the sea.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-sends-warship-special-cargo-syria-102835383.html
comments follow article


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 02:58:28 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/06/us-syria-crisis-russia-ship-idUSBRE9850OH20130906

Published on Sep 6, 2013

Russia Sending Warship Nikolai Filchenkov To Syria with A SPECIAL CARGO.

ALERT: Russia Sending Warship Nikolai Filchenkov To Syria with



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gh2L9VD4l8





 ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 03:07:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7bpT8aXU7w


ALERT NEWS FLASH BREAKING NEWS Russia Sends 12 Warships To Syria  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Published on Aug 29, 2013




Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 03:34:47 PM



Hi Monkeys & Guest,

If anyone that does not know about The McLaughlin Hour or Group. I like the show.

The McLaughlin Group is broadcast during the weekend.
I believe the high-spirited show, may be taped on Fridays. 

TV schedule: http://www.mclaughlin.com/schedules.htm
http://www.mclaughlin.com/

I am looking forward to the Groups discussion this week on current events, they may be shouting :)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 04:50:27 PM
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/
http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/867527.html

17:59 06/09/2013

(http://www.itar-tass.com/data/Newses/MainPhoto/867527.JPEG)


17:59 06/09/2013 Top News
Russia will help Syria in case of external aggression 

 
Photo EPA/ITAR-TASS ALL NEWS


TASS-TV STRELNA,

St Petersburg, September 6 (Itar-Tass) - The United States, Turkey, Canada, France, Saudi Arabia and Britain back the strike on Syria at the G20 summit, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

Speaking at a final press conference, Putin said Russia, China, India, Indonesia, Brazil, South Africa and Italy came against military actions in Syria.

The U.N. secretary-general and Pope Francis also came against the use of force against Syria, the president said, adding that the population in these Western countries were against the military operation in Syria.

Putin had spoken to President Barack Obama for about thirty minutes but neither of them had changed his positions as a result of the meeting.

“This was a meaty and fruitful conversation and it took place in a friendly atmosphere but each of us remained clinging to old positions as a the result,” he said.

Putin noted that despite disagreements, he and President Obama understood each other’s arguments. “We listen to them and try to analyze,” Putin said.
 ::monkeyscissors::

http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/867527.html





Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 04:59:37 PM

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/9/6/1378465564499/95b40537-56cb-40c9-b1c6-4ad896bd767e-380x228.jpeg)



http://www.theguardian.com/world

Top stories and Updates.





Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 05:57:48 PM

 ::monkeyflag3::


9/6/13 at 5:47 pm


Rep Ted Poe to introduce resolution saying no funds can go toward military operations in Syria if Congress does not ok use of force (source: FNC Chad Pergam)


http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/09/06/rep-ted-poe-to-introduce-resolution-saying-no-funds-can-go-toward-military-operations-in-syria-if-congress-does-not-ok-use-of-force-source-fnc-chad-pergam/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 06:10:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7bpT8aXU7w


ALERT NEWS FLASH BREAKING NEWS Russia Sends 12 Warships To Syria  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Published on Aug 29, 2013




http://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-sends-at-least-12-warships-to-syria/

(The sauce)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 06:13:46 PM
Thank-You - Red, Klaas, and Whiskeygirl, for allowing me to post.


 ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 06:44:22 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/320797-house-could-delay-syria-vote-by-a-we



House could delay vote on Syria intervention by one week
By Russell Berman - 09/06/13 04:38 PM ET

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/320797-house-could-delay-syria-vote-by-a-week#ixzz2e9hpHDJ9
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The House could push back a vote on a resolution authorizing military strikes on Syria by as long as a week, according to a memo Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) sent to Republican lawmakers Friday.

ekhttp://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/320797-house-could-delay-syria-vote-by-a-we

 ::MonkeyEek::

What does this mean?  Is this a sneaky way to allow him to bomb, without approval?


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 07:51:31 PM


Pope Tweets Against Syria Strike, Writes Putin, Plans Saturday Vigil
By Elizabeth Dias @elizabethjdiasSept. 05, 2013

Syria
Pope Tweets Against Syria Strike, Writes Putin, Plans Saturday Vigil
By Elizabeth Dias @elizabethjdiasSept. 05, 20130

http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/05/pope-tweets-against-syria-strike-writes-putin-plans-saturday-vigil/

https://twitter.com/Pontifex

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Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 07:55:09 PM
Foreign Affairs

Striking Syria Is Completely Illegal

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

The fundamental rule of international law is that states cannot attack other states, even for humanitarian reasons

http://ideas.time.com/2013/09/05/obamas-plan-for-intervention-in-syria-is-illegal/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 07:59:15 PM
Breaking Kerry courts world support for Syria strike

BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL THAT IS WHY!!!!!!!!
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
He is trying to cover his sorry posterior. IMO
http://www.time.com/time/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
http://horse.he.net/~swiftpow/index.php?topic=SwiftVetQuotes


Welcome to Swift Vets and POWs for Truth

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (now Swift Vets and POWs for Truth) was launched on May 4, 2004 at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington. Eighteen Navy combat veterans and commanders went on the record opposing John Kerry's bid for the Presidency, including the entire chain of command above Lt. Kerry in Vietnam, and men who had fought at his side.

The Swift Veterans Quotes are interesting on John Kerry

http://horse.he.net/~swiftpow/index.php?topic=SwiftVetQuothttp://www.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=WarCrimeses


 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 09:53:42 PM


Judge Napolitano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be

Published on Sep 5, 2013

 ::MonkeyHeart::

Judge Napolitano and Shep Smith Slam Syria Intervention
'No One Seems to Care About the Law'

On Thursday afternoon, two of Fox News's more outspoken anti-war voices in Judge Andrew Napolitano and Shepard Smith spoke out against what they believe would be a "war crime" if the United States were to militarily intervene in the Syrian civil war, even after a potential congressional rejection vote."It is illegal under international law and illegal under the Constitution," Napolitano told his colleague. "You can use military force to attack somebody that attacked you or you can use military force to attack one that is about to attack you. Neither of those apply with respect to Syria
....more

Click more
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 10:01:56 PM


Judge Napolitano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be

Published on Sep 5, 2013

 ::MonkeyHeart::

Judge Napolitano and Shep Smith Slam Syria Intervention
'No One Seems to Care About the Law'

On Thursday afternoon, two of Fox News's more outspoken anti-war voices in Judge Andrew Napolitano and Shepard Smith spoke out against what they believe would be a "war crime" if the United States were to militarily intervene in the Syrian civil war, even after a potential congressional rejection vote."It is illegal under international law and illegal under the Constitution," Napolitano told his colleague. "You can use military force to attack somebody that attacked you or you can use military force to attack one that is about to attack you. Neither of those apply with respect to Syria
....more

Click more
 ::snipping3::


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be


This is the most interesting video that I have seen pertaining to Syria - Judge Napolitano.

It would be legal if Russia defended Syria -because Syria, is an ally to Russia, but it would be a war crime if America attacked Syria.


 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 10:15:44 PM


Judge Napolitano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be

Published on Sep 5, 2013

 ::MonkeyHeart::

Judge Napolitano and Shep Smith Slam Syria Intervention
'No One Seems to Care About the Law'

On Thursday afternoon, two of Fox News's more outspoken anti-war voices in Judge Andrew Napolitano and Shepard Smith spoke out against what they believe would be a "war crime" if the United States were to militarily intervene in the Syrian civil war, even after a potential congressional rejection vote."It is illegal under international law and illegal under the Constitution," Napolitano told his colleague. "You can use military force to attack somebody that attacked you or you can use military force to attack one that is about to attack you. Neither of those apply with respect to Syria
....more

Click more
 ::snipping3::


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be


This is the most interesting video that I have seen pertaining to Syria - Judge Napolitano.

It would be legal if Russia defended Syria -because Syria, is an ally to Russia, but it would be a war crime if America attacked Syria.


 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
If it is a war crime for America to attack Syria - would that make John Kerry a war criminal?


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 10:26:57 PM
Published on Sep 5, 2013


Judge Napolitano and Shep Smith Slam Syria Intervention 'No One Seems to Care About the Law'

 ::monkeyflag3:: I care!


On Thursday afternoon, two of Fox News's more outspoken anti-war voices in Judge Andrew Napolitano and Shepard Smith spoke out against what they believe would be a "war crime" if the United States were to militarily intervene in the Syrian civil war, even after a potential congressional rejection vote.

"It is illegal under international law and illegal under the Constitution," Napolitano told his colleague. "You can use military force to attack somebody that attacked you or you can use military force to attack one that is about to attack you. Neither of those apply with respect to Syria." He added that, however, a country may legally use military force to enforce international norms when authorized to do so by the United Nations — a situation which has not happened here.

Napolitano also noted for Smith that, technically speaking, "the president can start any war he wants, against anybody he wants for 90 days and nothing congress can do about it" under the War Powers Act. However, he added, that law is unconstitutional.

"If the president is unleashed to do whatever he wants in Syria," Napolitano lamented, "Congress cannot stop him from putting the 75,000 boots on the ground that General Dempsey said would be necessary."

So if they do this, we have committed a war crime," Smith asserted.

Napolitano agreed, adding that, in the event we strike Syria, there will be no way of stopping the United States. "No judge is going to stop this; no one is going to prosecute the president," the judge said. "The American people don't want this to happen; our allies in the region don't want this to happen.

Who wants this to happen besides John Kerry and the president?

The judge concluded by suggesting that any president can become "lawless" when they have a powerful military at their disposal. "No one seems to care about the law here," he said. "They just seem to care about politics. Congress lets the president start a war; the president doesn't care what international law says. He wants to be vindicated politically."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 10:38:11 PM
Published on Sep 5, 2013


Judge Napolitano and Shep Smith Slam Syria Intervention 'No One Seems to Care About the Law' On Thursday afternoon, two of Fox News's more outspoken anti-war voices in Judge Andrew Napolitano and Shepard Smith spoke out against what they believe would be a "war crime" if the United States were to militarily intervene in the Syrian civil war, even after a potential congressional rejection vote.

"It is illegal under international law and illegal under the Constitution," Napolitano told his colleague. "You can use military force to attack somebody that attacked you or you can use military force to attack one that is about to attack you. Neither of those apply with respect to Syria." He added that, however, a country may legally use military force to enforce international norms when authorized to do so by the United Nations — a situation which has not happened here.

Napolitano also noted for Smith that, technically speaking, "the president can start any war he wants, against anybody he wants for 90 days and nothing congress can do about it" under the War Powers Act. However, he added, that law is unconstitutional.

"If the president is unleashed to do whatever he wants in Syria," Napolitano lamented, "Congress cannot stop him from putting the 75,000 boots on the ground that General Dempsey said would be necessary."

So if they do this, we have committed a war crime," Smith asserted.

Napolitano agreed, adding that, in the event we strike Syria, there will be no way of stopping the United States. "No judge is going to stop this; no one is going to prosecute the president," the judge said. "The American people don't want this to happen; our allies in the region don't want this to happen.

Who wants this to happen besides John Kerry and the president?

The judge concluded by suggesting that any president can become "lawless" when they have a powerful military at their disposal. "No one seems to care about the law here," he said. "They just seem to care about politics. Congress lets the president start a war; the president doesn't care what international law says. He wants to be vindicated politically."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be

Would this,technically, make President Hocus Pocus and John Kerry, War criminals?


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 11:08:04 PM
http://patdollard.com/2013/09/judge-napolitano-slams-syria-intervention-no-one-seems-to-care-about-the-law/

 Judge Napolitano Slams Syria Intervention: ‘No One Seems To Care About The Law’

  Video is underneath President Obama's Photo

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Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 06, 2013, 11:16:45 PM
 ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3:: ::monkeyflag3::
 
Judge Napolitano and Shep Smith

Slam Syria Intervention

'No One Seems to Care About the Law'

   Published on Sep 5, 2013

On Thursday afternoon, two of Fox News's more outspoken anti-war voices in Judge Andrew Napolitano and Shepard Smith spoke out against what they believe would be a "war crime" if the United States were to militarily intervene in the Syrian civil war, even after a potential congressional rejection vote.

"It is illegal under international law and illegal under the Constitution," Napolitano told his colleague. "You can use military force to attack somebody that attacked you or you can use military force to attack one that is about to attack you. Neither of those apply with respect to Syria." He added that, however, a country may legally use military force to enforce international norms when authorized to do so by the United Nations — a situation which has not happened here.

Napolitano also noted for Smith that, technically speaking, "the president can start any war he wants, against anybody he wants for 90 days and nothing congress can do about it" under the War Powers Act. However, he added, that law is unconstitutional.

"If the president is unleashed to do whatever he wants in Syria," Napolitano lamented, "Congress cannot stop him from putting the 75,000 boots on the ground that General Dempsey said would be necessary."

So if they do this, we have committed a war crime," Smith asserted.

Napolitano agreed, adding that, in the event we strike Syria, there will be no way of stopping the United States. "No judge is going to stop this; no one is going to prosecute the president," the judge said.

"The American people don't want this to happen; our allies in the region don't want this to happen. Who wants this to happen besides John Kerry and the president?The judge concluded by suggesting that any president can become "lawless" when they have a powerful military at their disposal. "No one seems to care about the law here," he said. "They just seem to care about politics. Congress lets the president start a war; the president doesn't care what international law says. He wants to be vindicated politically."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Yt7recmxU&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 12:05:02 AM
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/bg090613dAPR20130906014512.jpg)
By Bob Gorrell - September 06, 2013
http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2013/09/06/112028


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 08:52:34 AM
http://dontattacksyria.com/

A video of Congressman Grayson, he makes good sense.

I do not put my name on the internet. I am not suggesting that anyone does, I already sent emails to my Representatives. :)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 09:18:30 AM
Hi Monkeys and Guest,

Did China Send Warships to support Russian Warships in the Mediterranean?  I have not heard anything on the news about Chinese ships in the Mediterranean.  I am questioning if this video is true or not - there is no conclusive evidence that these ships are in the Mediterranean.


 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
China Sends Warships to Support Russian Warships in Mediterranean - The SCO in Syria . PowerRossiya·183 videos

Published on Sep 7, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/user/PowerRossiya

China sent warships to the coast of Syria to support Russian warships as tensions build in preparation for a potential U.S military strike on Syria which could come as soon as next week. The People's Liberation Army dispatched the Jinggangshan and 3 more PLA warships to support Russia in case Russia decide engage U.S warships in that region, as the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation or SCO rules of engagement provide.

At the same time the Russian warships in the Mediterranean began to warm for a possible confrontation with the United States.

Category News & Politics
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdpnQKpcLMY


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 09:29:24 AM
http://www.examiner.com/article/chinese-russian-warships-and-marines-heading-to-syrian-waters

How reliable is the examiner.com? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: cookie on September 07, 2013, 12:45:33 PM
No more war! Where r all the liberals who so condemned Bush for going to war from info he had? Now Obama wants to go to war...
Wish he had been so outraged over the Benghazi fiasco! He couldn't be outraged and calling for justice for 4 murdered American because he s trying to keep that hushed up because he and Hilary screwed up royally on that one! Outrage!


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 03:26:00 PM
19:28 07/09/2013 Top News
G8 parliament speakers warn against automatic support for invasion of Syria


TASS-TV LONDON, September 7 (Itar-Tass) -

The parliament speakers of the Group of Eight (G8) most industrialised nations have warned against “automatic support for an invasion of Syria”, State Duma Deputy Chairman Sergei Zheleznyak said.

He is leading the Russian delegation to a traditional meeting of the G8 parliament speakers being held in London.

“The parliament of Great Britain, which is obliged to rely on the opinion of the people, did not support the government on the military operation in Syria. This indicates [the importance of] active interaction between parliaments and society and respect for people’s opinion when discussing and making critical decisions,” Zheleznyak told ITAR-TASS on Saturday, September 7.

He noted that “American representatives are not present at the meeting.” “Having learnt that the Syria issue would be discussed, which was not initially on the agenda and the agreement to hold this discussion was reached only yesterday [September 6], they decided against attending the meeting,” the MP said.

“The absence of the American representatives from the Syria discussion among the G8 parliament speakers is yet another confirmation that the United States has no confidence in its position and lacks reliable evidence that could justify its intention to unleash an armed conflict in Syria,” Zheleznyak said.

He said the discussion was being moderated by John Bercow, Speaker of the House of Commons. “Apart from him, there is also a large British delegation here, which includes both senior members of parliament and officials from the British government,” he added.

http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/868397.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 03:28:12 PM
19:13 07/09/2013

No “further action” on Syria until UN chemical weapons experts publish report.


http://www.itar-tass.com/en/c32/868392.html



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 04:48:37 PM
No more war! Where r all the liberals who so condemned Bush for going to war from info he had? Now Obama wants to go to war...
Wish he had been so outraged over the Benghazi fiasco! He couldn't be outraged and calling for justice for 4 murdered American because he s trying to keep that hushed up because he and Hilary screwed up royally on that one! Outrage!

Hi Cookie,

Where is Ophra Winfrey?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I find the Benghazi scandal a puzzle. The many different stories and distractions, made it hard for me to connect the dots.

Kerry and BO are easier to understand.  Kerry looks like a used car saleman and BO looks like the guy who bought the car. :)   ::jeep3::

No more war is right, Cookie!  Kerry/ BO, wanted a distraction from the Snowdon mess, (Benghazi, NSA,etc.) when he kept threatening, Russia, LOL, and Russia, did not give Snowden back.

Do remember why Bill whacked the Aspirin factory?  Hint: Blue dress! He wanted to changed the news.
 ::MonkeyHeart::



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 04:54:52 PM
No more war! Where r all the liberals who so condemned Bush for going to war from info he had? Now Obama wants to go to war...
Wish he had been so outraged over the Benghazi fiasco! He couldn't be outraged and calling for justice for 4 murdered American because he s trying to keep that hushed up because he and Hilary screwed up royally on that one! Outrage!

Hi Cookie,

Where is Ophra Winfrey?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I find the Benghazi scandal a puzzle. The many different stories and distractions, made it hard for me to connect the dots.

Kerry and BO are easier to understand.  Kerry looks like a used car saleman and BO looks like the guy who bought the car. :)   ::jeep3::

No more war is right, Cookie!  Kerry/ BO, wanted a distraction from the Snowdon mess, (Benghazi, NSA,etc.) when he kept threatening, Russia, LOL, and Russia, did not give Snowden back.

Do remember why Bill whacked the Aspirin factory?  Hint: Blue dress! He wanted to changed the news.
 ::MonkeyHeart::



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/syria-why-hollywoods-anti-war-623326


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 05:06:40 PM

Petraeus calls on Congress to back White House on Syria


(http://images.politico.com/global/2013/03/27/130327_david_petraeus_ap_328.jpg)

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/petraeus-calls-on-congress-to-back-white-house-on-syria-96413.html#ixzz2eF93ZzeC

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: The guy looks desperate and so does the W.H.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
     Has he been promised the next job for Secretary of State? 


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 07, 2013, 07:03:47 PM

Petraeus calls on Congress to back White House on Syria


(http://images.politico.com/global/2013/03/27/130327_david_petraeus_ap_328.jpg)

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/petraeus-calls-on-congress-to-back-white-house-on-syria-96413.html#ixzz2eF93ZzeC

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: The guy looks desperate and so does the W.H.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
     Has he been promised the next job for Secretary of State? 


Monkeys,


Why are B.O, Kerry, McCain, Patraeus, acting, so desperate and blood-thirsty for a war?

They act as though there is prize waiting them, what is the prize?

Syria is a Civil-War and have been fighting for years.

B.O. and Kerry, are trying to bully the American public and have tried to bully the Allies, why?

Has Kerry promised more than he can deliver to the Saudi's? Why is he so and desperate
to send soldiers to die? What is getting for his drama?

This is the Billion dollar question.  My opinions.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 03:17:05 AM

Steve Siebold

The United States Needs to Stay Out of Syria

Posted: 09/06/2013 5:24 pm

 ::snipping3::

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said, "Our military objectives in Syria would be to hold the Assad regime accountable, degrade its ability to carry out these kinds of attacks and deter it from further use of chemical weapons." Even if we were to move forward with an air strike, our limited bombing would not be enough to stop the civil war, and would probably just kill more innocent civilians in the process.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-siebold/the-united-states-needs-t_1_b_3867507.html
 ::monkeyscissors::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 03:26:24 AM


Sep. 7, 2013 8:04am

Krauthammer: U.S. Should Stay Out of Syria Because Obama ‘Doesn’t Know What He’s Doing’
 ::monkeyflag3::

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/07/krauthammer-u-s-should-stay-out-of-syria-because-obama-doesnt-know-what-hes-doing/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 03:42:36 AM
« Syria Resolution Invites Escalation – Dick Morris TV: Lunch Alert!GOP Missing Opportunity To Win Young Over Syria – Dick Morris TV: Lunch Alert! »Sign The Petition To Stay Out Of Syria!
By Dick Morris on September 5, 2013
Dear Friend,

Click Here To Sign The Petition To Stay Out Of Syria![/color]

I am against our intervention in Syria. Both sides of this conflict are brutal, terrorist regimes and neither is worth a single American dollar or drop of blood. On the one side, we have Assad, a dedicated ally of Iran who stands poised to fight with Israel at the drop of a hat. On the other side, we have an al Qaeda-dominated coalition representing our worst enemies.

If you agree, please sign this petition to urge your Senators and Congressman to vote no on going to war, yet again, this time in Syria.Click Here To Sign The Petition To Stay


www.dickmorris.com

 ::monkeyflag3::
I do not sign petitions.  I just wanted to put DM opinion. Thank-you :)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 04:12:59 AM


http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2013/09/madonna-on-syria-us-should-stay-out-171991.html

(http://images.politico.com/global/2012/11/121106_madonna_reuters_605.jpg)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 04:26:33 AM
By Bill Neely, Damascus
5:25PM BST 07 Sep 2013



Syria's rebels and soldiers agree: military strikes will change nothing



Syria's rebels and President Bashar al-Assad's soldiers agree on next to nothing. They've killed each other by the tens of thousands in a war mired in stalemate. But they're now agreed on one thing. The military strike America is preparing will not change anything.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10293591/Syrias-rebels-and-soldiers-agree-military-strikes-will-change-nothing.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 04:30:39 AM

Kerry Fails to Sway EU Skeptics on Urgency of Syria Strike
Saturday, 07 Sep 2013 10:23 AM


VILNIUS, Lithuania  — Secretary of State John Kerry failed to sway his European counterparts on the urgency of a U.S.-led military strike to halt the use of chemical weapons in Syria’s 2 1/2-year civil war.

France, the principal U.S. ally in a possible assault, slowed its march to a confrontation by backing a European Union appeal to put off an armed response until the United Nations delivers a report on last month’s use of

 ::monkeyflag3::

http://www.newsmaxworld.com/newswidget/kerry-syria-eu-obama/2013/09/07/id/524357?promo_code=125BD-1&utm_source=125BDTelegraph_Media_Group&utm_medium=nmwidget&utm_campaign=widgetphase1





Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 04:51:30 AM
Barack Obama’s delusions of grandeur: compares Syria intervention to fighting World War Two

By Nile Gardiner World Last updated: September 8th, 2013

69 Comments Comment on this article


(http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/09/Barack-Obama-Jimmy-Carter.jpg)

A key part of President Obama’s press conference in St. Petersburg last Friday went largely under the radar in the US media – his bizarre analogy between the crisis in Syria, and the London Blitz. Obama attempted to draw a comparison between America’s hesitancy to enter World War Two in 1940 and 1941, to widespread scepticism over a military intervention in Syria over 70 years later. MORE...


 ::monkeyscissors:: ::



http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100234713/barack-obamas-delusions-of-grandeur-compares-syria-intervention-to-fighting-world-war-two/



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 05:12:26 AM
Rep. Alan Grayson on Syria:

Congress Should Reject "Warmongering" and Focus on Problems at Home

Thursday, September 5, 2013

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/9/5/rep_alan_grayson_on_syria_congress


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 05:26:29 AM




U.S. House: How they'll vote on Syria strike

updated 5:00 PM EDT, Sat Sept 7, 2013

Below is our latest tally. 1 of 5 pages

CNN will be updating the count three times a day as opinions change or solidify.

 ::monkeyflag3::


U.S. Senate: How they'll vote on Syria strike updated 5:00 PM EDT, Sat Sept 7, 2013

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/09/politics/syria-congress-vote-count/house.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 06:27:19 PM

I do not know if any of this is true or not.


 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyAngel:: Pray :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Do26737g7Y

Published on Sep 8, 2013

Russia has announced plans for deploying an anti-submarine ship and a missile cruiser to the Mediterranean, amid the escalating Western war rhetoric against Syria.


"The well-known situation shaping up in the eastern Mediterranean called for certain corrections to the make-up of the naval forces," an unnamed source in the Russian General Staff was quoted by Russian news agency Interfax as saying on Thursday. "A large anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet will join them (the existing Russian naval forces) over the next few days. Later it will be joined by the Moskva, a rocket cruiser of the Black Sea Fleet," the source added.


Moscow is strongly opposed to any military strike on Syria, with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov believing that the move will critically destabilize the region.

Earlier in the day, the Russian Foreign Ministry quoted Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov as saying that "Declared plans by some states to inflict a military strike on Syria are an undisguised challenge to the key provisions of the UN Charter and other norms of international law."

The war rhetoric against Syria gained momentum after the militants operating inside the country and the foreign-backed Syrian opposition claimed on August 21 that hundreds had been killed in a government chemical attack on militant strongholds in the Damascus suburbs of Ain Tarma, Zamalka and Jobar.

Damascus has categorically rejected the allegations.

Since August 27, speculations became stronger about the possibility of a military attack on Syria. Media outlets reported US plans for likely surgical attacks, which would be in the form of "cruise-missile strikes," and "could rely on four US destroyers in the Mediterranean [Sea]." The plan was said to be awaiting US President Barack Obama's go-ahead.

Iran, Russia and China, among other countries, have warned against foreign military intervention in Syria.



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Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 07:01:03 PM

ME: This may be a good time to contact your Congressman.


 ::monkeyflag3::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqmPSFhqLUU

China Sends Warships close to US ships on Coast of Syria BREAKING

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

This may just be some kind of movie...or it may not.

Please keep in mind, there is no date. 




Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 08, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnKsjO-LjXU

ALERT WWIII Russia And US Send More Warships To Mediterranean

Published on Sep 6, 2013

Russia and the US have sent further warships to boost their military capacity in the Mediterannean as expectations grow of an imminent strike on Syria.

  ::monkeyflag3::     Please contact your Congressman.   ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 09, 2013, 06:47:18 AM
http://www.timesofisrael.com/assad-could-avert-attack-by-giving-up-chemical-arms-kerry-says/


Assad could avert attack by giving up chemical arms,
Kerry says Secretary of state surmises it is unlikely Syrian leader will turn over all of weapons stock, asserts evidence regime behind gassing

By AP and Times of Israel staff
September 9, 2013, 12:50 pm


 ::MonkeyEek::  Is anyone confused?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 09, 2013, 10:20:21 AM



SYRIA -- September 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM EDT


Assad Tells PBS' Charlie Rose Syria Prepared to Retaliate if Hit
By: Hari Sreenivasan

PBS talk show host Charlie Rose, right, interviewed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad Sunday in Damascus. His interview will air on PBS at 9 p.m. EDT Monday.

PBS NewsHour Weekend's Hari Sreenivasan spoke to Rose Sunday. Listen to their conversation below. (link to listen below)

(http://newshour.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/2013/09/08/CharlieRoseAssad3_blog_main_horizontal.jpg)


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/09/assad-tells-pbs-charlie-rose-syria-prepared-to-retaliate-if-hit.html


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 09, 2013, 10:23:24 AM

By Dick Morris on September 5, 2013
 ::monkeyflag3::

"I am against our intervention in Syria. Both sides of this conflict are brutal, terrorist regimes and neither is worth a single American dollar or drop of blood"

www.dickmorris.com


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 09, 2013, 11:08:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnKsjO-LjXU

ALERT WWIII  Russia And US Send More Warships To Mediterranean

Published on Sep 6, 2013

Russia and the US have sent further warships to boost their military capacity in the Mediterannean as expectations grow of an imminent strike on Syria.

  ::monkeyflag3::     Please contact your Congressman.   ::monkeyflag3::




Kerry:
 US strike on Syria would be "unbelievably small'
By Jonathan Easley - 09/09/13 10:02 AM ET


 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/320959-kerry-says-assad-could-stop-strikes-by-turning-over-weapons#ixzz2ePNPW8sx
Follow us: @thehill on Twitter

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/320959-kerry-says-assad-could-stop-strikes-by-turning-over-weapons


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 09, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/320959-kerry-says-assad-could-stop-strikes-by-turning-over-weapons



John Kerry: US strike on Syria would be 'unbelievably small'
By Jonathan Easley - 09/09/13 10:02 AM ET


Kerry made the comment at a London press conference as the administration sought to win support from a skeptical public and Congress to back its plans to attack Syria over its alleged use of chemical weapons.




 ::monkeyscissors::


 ::monkeyflag3::
Why doesn't John Kerry take some of his Ketchup money out of the bank and conduct his own air strikes since he is the only one that wants them?  ::MonkeyHaHa::






Title: Re: Syria
Post by: cookie on September 09, 2013, 12:32:51 PM
Seahorse...where are all the Hollywood folks who are soooooo against war? Nowhere to be found since they are Obama fans. Hypocrites.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 11, 2013, 01:45:42 AM


 ::MonkeyHeart::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTBgNlojYyc
Published on Sep 10, 2013

 Sen. Rand Paul Respond to President Obama's Speech on Syria . PBS NewsHour  ·7,963 videos
 ::monkeyflag3::

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul delivered remarks responding to President Obama's speech on Syria, Tuesday night. For more, visit http://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 11, 2013, 02:09:23 AM
http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=959

Sen. Rand Paul Delivers Response to President's Speech on Military Action in Syria
Sep 10, 2013 WASHINGTON, D.C. -

Tonight, Sen. Rand Paul delivered a response to President Obama's speech regarding U.S. intervention in the Syrian civil war.
 ::monkeyflag3::

TRANSCRIPT:
Twelve years after we were attacked by al-Qaida, 12 years after 3,000 Americans were killed by al-Qaida, President Obama now asks us to be allies with al-Qaida.

Americans by a large majority want nothing to do with the Syrian civil war. We fail to see a national security interest in a war between a leader who gasses his own citizens and Islamic rebels who are killing Christians.

Some argue that American credibility is on the line, that because President Obama drew a red line with chemical weapons, America must act or lose credibility. I would argue that America's credibility does not reside in one man.


If our enemies wish to know if America will defend herself, let them look no farther than our response to 9/11. When attacked, we responded with overwhelming force and with the military objective of complete victory over our attackers.



The Reagan Doctrine grew out of his experience in the Middle East. Reagan's defense secretary spelled out a systematic approach to our involvement in Middle Eastern conflicts. First, the American people must be supportive - overwhelmingly supportive - but most importantly our mission must be to win.

 

There is no clearly defined mission in Syria, no clearly defined American interest. In fact, the Obama Administration has specifically stated that "no military solution" exists. They have said the war will be "unbelievably small and limited."

 

To me that sounds like they are pre-announcing that the military strikes will not punish Assad personally or effect regime change.

 

It is said that America must act to prevent Assad from using chemical weapons again. But it is unknown whether attacking Assad encourages him or discourages him. It is equally likely that Assad could feel cornered and resort to chemical weapons in an expanded fashion.

 

It is equally likely that the bombing could de-stabilize Assad and he could lose control of the chemical weapons. The Obama Administration has indicated that it would take 75,000 ground troops to secure the weapons and that they are prepared to do just that despite the resolution's admonition against ground troops.

 

The question must be asked, "Would a U.S. bombing campaign make it more or less likely that Assad loses control of the chemical weapons?"

 

The same question can be asked of a series of bad outcomes. "Would a US bombing campaign make it more or less likely that Assad attacks Israel with chemical weapons?"

 

Would a bombing campaign make it more or less likely that refugees stream into Jordan? Just the threat of bombing has increased the flow of refugees.

 

Would a bombing campaign in Syria make the region more or less stable? Would it make it more or less likely that Iran or Russia becomes more involved?

 

Just about any bad outcome you can imagine is made more likely by U.S. involvement in the Syrian civil war.

 

In the past 24 hours, Russia has offered to broker a deal with Syria to have their chemical weapons put under international control. Diplomacy, if sincere, would be a welcome resolution. The Syrian foreign minister has indicated an interest in the proposal.

 

Can we trust the participants in this plan?

 

Diplomacy is always a mixture of trust, distrust, and watchfulness. We should not be naïve, and we should have a solid plan and safeguards in place as part of any solution.

 

As Reagan put it we must "trust, but verify."

 

Some will say that only the threat of force brought Russia and Syria to the negotiating table. In fact, Russian has been negotiating with the US for over a year to find a peaceful resolution to the Syrian civil war.

 

The possibility of a diplomatic solution is a good thing, though we must proceed with caution on the details.

 

But one thing is for certain, the chance for diplomacy would not have occurred without strong voices against an immediate bombing campaign. If we had simply gone to war last week or the week before, as many advocated, we wouldn't be looking at a possible solution today.

 

The voices of those in Congress and the overwhelming number of Americans who stood up and said "slow down" allowed this possible solution to take shape.

 

Will diplomacy win the day? No one can tell for certain. But on a broader issue, it is an important day, though, in the sense that a President recognized his Constitutional duty and came to seek Congressional authority for war.

 

If the vote occurs, I will vote no and encourage my colleagues to vote no as well. The President has not made a compelling case that American interests are at risk in Syria. The threshold for war should be a significant one.

 

The President maintains that he still has the power to initiate war. This is untrue. The Constitution gave the power to declare war to Congress. James Madison wrote that the "Constitution supposes, what history demonstrates, that the executive is the branch most prone to war. Therefore the Constitution, with studied care, vested the power to declare war in the legislature."

 

This is no small question. I see the vote on whether to go to war in very personal terms. I will not vote to send my son, your son, or anyone's daughter to war unless a compelling American interest is present. I am not convinced that we have a compelling interest in the Syrian civil war.

 

May God help us make the wise decision here and avoid an unnecessary war.


http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=959


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 11, 2013, 03:42:28 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/barack-obama-vladimir-putin-russia-syria-96603.html?hp=l4

To Russia With Love   ::MonkeyEek::
Jonathon Allen     Updated 9/11/13 12:29 PM


http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/barack-obama-vladimir-putin-russia-syria-96603.html?hp=l4


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 11, 2013, 03:48:58 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/10-things-to-know-about-edward-snowden-92491.html

Eward Snowdon:  Ten Things to Know
Tal Kopan  Sept. 11, 2013 update Sept 11, 2013



 http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/10-things-to-know-about-edward-snowden-92491.html

Leno: The IRS can keep track of 100 Million People, except for one" :(


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 11, 2013, 04:01:49 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/wall-street-journal-elizabeth-obagy-fired-96637.html

WSJ op-ed writer Elizabeth O’Bagy fired for resume lie

By MACKENZIE WEINGER and KATE BRANNEN | 9/11/13 12:49 PM EDT
 
The Syria researcher whose Wall Street Journal op-ed piece was cited by Secretary of State John Kerry and Sen. John McCain during congressional hearings about the use of force has been fired from the Institute for the Study of War for lying about having a Ph.D., the group announced on Wednesday.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 11, 2013, 05:26:20 PM


Saturday, Nov 26, 2011 07:45 AM EST

Wes Clark and the neocon dream
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

In October, 2007, Gen. Wesley Clark gave a speech to the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco (seven-minute excerpt in the video below) in which he denounced what he called “a policy coup” engineered by neocons in the wake of 9/11. After recounting how a Pentagon source had told him weeks after 9/11 of the Pentagon’s plan to attack Iraq notwithstanding its non-involvement in 9/11, this is how Clark described the aspirations of the “coup” being plotted by Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and what he called “a half dozen other collaborators from the Project for the New American Century”:

Six weeks later, I saw the same officer, and asked: “Why haven’t we attacked Iraq? Are we still going to attack Iraq?”

He said: “Sir, it’s worse than that. He said – he pulled up a piece of paper off his desk – he said: “I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defense’s office.

 It says we’re going to attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years – we’re going to start with Iraq, and then we’re going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.”
More...


http://www.salon.com/2011/11/26/wes_clark_and_the_neocon_dream/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 11, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years  
 ::monkeyflag3::

http://www.youtube.com/user/FacelesswithEyesOpen?feature=watch

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wes+clark+%28Us+4+star+general%29+US+will+attack+7+countries&oq=wes+clark+%28Us+4+star+general%29+US+will+attack+7+countries&gs_l=youtube.12...109.24906.0.26578.47.46.0.0.0.0.1454.7268.14j12j3j2j1j7-2.34.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.ONA7sAx1pSU (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wes+clark+%28Us+4+star+general%29+US+will+attack+7+countries&oq=wes+clark+%28Us+4+star+general%29+US+will+attack+7+countries&gs_l=youtube.12...109.24906.0.26578.47.46.0.0.0.0.1454.7268.14j12j3j2j1j7-2.34.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.ONA7sAx1pSU)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 11, 2013, 07:42:08 PM
Kerry’s claim that he opposed Bush’s invasion of Iraq

The Secretary of State earns Four Pinocchios for saying he opposed the invasion of Iraq in 2003.  
By Glenn Kessler September 10

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp-content/themes/wapo-blogs/inc/imrs.php?src=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/02/107983379.jpg&w=145)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 05:04:59 AM

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ&feature=youtu.be

 ::monkeyflag3:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
1.8 Trillion dollar


Help KickStart World War 111

President Obama needs your help in starting WW3
 ::justice2nj2::

Is this why the Emir is here?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 05:20:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years  
 ::monkeyflag3::

http://www.youtube.com/user/FacelesswithEyesOpen?feature=watch

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ&feature=youtu.be

Help Kickstart World War III!


Published on Sep 9, 2013

President Obama needs your help starting World War III! Find out how you can help!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 05:36:01 AM

Pat Buchanan: Putin’s Op-Ed ‘Outstanding,’ Looks ‘Like a Statesman’
by Evan McMurry | 9:37 am, September 12th, 2013



(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/buchanan.jpg)

Fox News analyst Pat Buchanan spoke to Off the Record host Greta van Susteren Wednesday night and praised Vladimir Putin’s op-ed in the New York Times as outstanding, pointing out that it was the Russian president, and not President Barack Obama, who was best speaking to American opinion on Syria.


“I read it twice,” Buchanan said, “and, candidly, it was an outstanding piece. Vladimir Putin made a better case against U.S. strikes in Syria than the President of the United States did last night…He is reaching out to the anti-war community in the United States, the anti-interventionist community on Syria, which, as we know, recently, is probably around 60, 70, 80% of the American people. And he’s doing it in an op-ed, and I think it’s very effective.”


 ::monkeyscissors::
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/pat-buchanan-putins-op-ed-outstanding-looks-like-a-statesman/

 ::monkeyflag3:: Go Pat Go ::monkeyflag3::







Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 05:41:42 AM

Pat Buchanan: Putin’s Op-Ed ‘Outstanding,’ Looks ‘Like a Statesman’
by Evan McMurry | 9:37 am, September 12th, 2013



(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/buchanan.jpg)

Fox News analyst Pat Buchanan spoke to Off the Record host Greta van Susteren Wednesday night and praised Vladimir Putin’s op-ed in the New York Times as outstanding, pointing out that it was the Russian president, and not President Barack Obama, who was best speaking to American opinion on Syria.


“I read it twice,” Buchanan said, “and, candidly, it was an outstanding piece. Vladimir Putin made a better case against U.S. strikes in Syria than the President of the United States did last night…He is reaching out to the anti-war community in the United States, the anti-interventionist community on Syria, which, as we know, recently, is probably around 60, 70, 80% of the American people. And he’s doing it in an op-ed, and I think it’s very effective.”


 ::monkeyscissors::
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/pat-buchanan-putins-op-ed-outstanding-looks-like-a-statesman/

 ::monkeyflag3:: Go Pat Go ::monkeyflag3::


Video of Greta Van Susteran and Pat Buchanan follows the article on the link.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/pat-buchanan-putins-op-ed-outstanding-looks-like-a-statesman/


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 06:34:37 AM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZK5gRLJ9h0


World War 3 Has Already Begun


INTERESTING!

This is the opinion of the Stormcloudsgathering
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8ZK5gRLJ9h0/mqdefault.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZK5gRLJ9h0
http://www.youtube.com/user/StormCloudsGathering
 ::monkeyflag3::

The war bunk is not about the "children"?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 07:15:30 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/09/12/vladimir-putins-new-york-times-op-ed-annotated-and-fact-checked/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost


Vladimir Putin’s New York Times op-ed, annotated and fact-checked
By Max Fisher, Published: September 12 at 12:04 pm


(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2012/11/155086592.jpg)

Alexei Nikolsky/AFP/Getty Imagesg



Vladimir Putin’s New York Times op-ed, annotated and fact-checked
By Max Fisher, Published: September 12, 2013
2830Comments More
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/09/12/vladimir-putins-new-york-times-op-ed-annotated-and-fact-checked/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost





Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 07:20:36 AM
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/poll/who-do-you-think-is-the-more-powerful-leader-president-obama-or-president-putin/


Who do you think is the more powerful leader:

President Obama or President Putin?

President Obama  ::MonkeyEek::

President Putin    ::MonkeyEek::

Vote View Results
Polldaddy.comPosted in: News, President Obama, President Vladimir Putin See more  Polls


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 07:27:04 AM


Why is the Emir in Washington?

What (if any) is the Emir's MISSION in Washington?

Thank-you

 ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 07:44:11 AM
My American Revolutionary, Grandfathers, would have been proud of being a (SM) Monkey!

 ::monkeyflag3::

I know for one thing, my American Revolutionary, gf's, (one who enlisted four times), for America, and not for any screw-ball wars that are based are money.

 ::monkeyflag3::

If those Shieks was to get rid of someone let them fight their own war over in the Mideast.
My grandfathers did not fight in the Revolution, so American could be the bought and sold by the Saudi's, IMO.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 08:00:41 AM
http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=constitution

The Constitution of the United States

 ::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 08:02:30 AM

CNETNewsPolitics and LawNSA disguised itself as Google to spy, say ...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57602701-38/nsa-disguised-itself-as-google-to-spy-say-reports/

 ::MonkeyEek::
NSA disguised itself as Google to spy, say reports

If a recently leaked document is any indication, the US National Security Agency -- or its UK counterpart -- appears to have put on a Google suit to gather intelligence.

 
by Edward Moyer |September 12, 2013 2:19 PM PDT

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Who knows what is true? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 08:56:03 AM
President Obama proclaimed to keep America safe. However, President Putin is keeping America safe. ::MonkeyEek:: 

 How did USA become upside-down and backwards?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


:(   Americans has more confidence in the Russian President than our own President. :(

 ::monkeyflag3::  What has happened to the United States?   ::monkeyflag3::

America has more confidence in a Mr. Putin than our own American president?

My Opinions.



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 09:16:52 AM


The Boy Who Cried Wolf



The Boy Who Cried Wolf is one of Aesop's Fables, numbered 210 in the Perry Index. From it is derived the English idiom "to cry wolf", meaning to give a false alarm.


 ::germanshep::

The tale concerns a shepherd boy who repeatedly tricks nearby villagers into thinking a wolf is attacking his flock. When a wolf actually does appear, the villagers do not trust the boy's cries for help, and the flock is destroyed. The moral at the end of the Greek version of the story states that it "shows that this is how liars are rewarded: even if they tell the truth, no one believes them".

 ::monkeyscissors::

The boy's who cried wolf:  J.K. and B.O.  ::rhino::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 10:56:26 AM
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/poll/who-do-you-think-is-the-more-powerful-leader-president-obama-or-president-putin/

9/12/13 at 10:15 pm


Who do you think is the more powerful leader: President Obama or President Putin?


President Putin  97.64%  (5,786 votes)
 
 
President Obama  2.36%  (140 votes)
 
 
 
Total Votes: 5,926


http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/poll/who-do-you-think-is-the-more-powerful-leader-president-obama-or-president-putin/





Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2013, 09:38:33 PM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZK5gRLJ9h0


World War 3 Has Already Begun


INTERESTING!

This is the opinion of the Stormcloudsgathering
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8ZK5gRLJ9h0/mqdefault.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZK5gRLJ9h0
http://www.youtube.com/user/StormCloudsGathering
 ::monkeyflag3::

The war bunk is not about the "children"?   ::MonkeyEek::



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Title: Re: Syria
Post by: WhiskeyGirl on September 14, 2013, 08:54:56 PM
I have to wonder if this was Obama's goal all along? 


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 09:51:23 AM
I have to wonder if this was Obama's goal all along? 

In my opinion, YES!


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 09:55:21 AM
http://washingtonexaminer.com/sen.-lindsey-graham-to-seek-authorization-for-u.s.-attack-on-iran/article/2536040.

Remember believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear :)


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 10:38:32 AM
http://www.humanevents.com/2013/09/17/lindseys-plan-for-war-on-iran/

Defense & National Security Lindsey’s plan for war on Iran

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By: Patrick J. Buchanan
9/17/2013 06:00 AM

This summer produced a triumph of American patriotism.

A grassroots coalition arose to demand Congress veto any war on Syria. Congress got the message and was ready to vote no to war, when President Obama seized upon Vladimir Putin’s offer to work together to disarm Syria of chemical weapons.
 ::monkeyscissors::

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/09/17/lindseys-plan-for-war-on-iran/


 ::monkeyflag3::
 My opinion - A senility test should be given to Graham and McCain.


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 10:52:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exrqMPJ1Bts

Syria in Five Minutes


Published on Sep 13, 2013

In which Hank discusses the situation in Syria as deeply and completely as he can in five minutes.

 ::rhino:: Hank expains clearly the situation in Syria  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 11:22:12 AM


Comments on:

Sen. Lindsey Graham to seek authorization for U.S. attack on Iran
By BYRON YORK | SEPTEMBER 18, 2013 AT 6:18 PM

Sen. Lindsey Graham is one of the strongest advocates of an American military strike against the Assad regime in Syria. He was unhappy when President Obama decided to seek congressional authorization for an attack, and then unhappy when his fellow lawmakers voiced disapproval of the president's plan. Graham believes the diplomatic path chosen by the administration will lead to a debacle....



 ::monkeyscissors::

711 Comments:

Les

• 5 minutes ago• 

⚑I am sick of the United States waging wars for Israel. It is time that US foreign policy be about the United States.

I am against the United States spending one more dime or one more life so that Israel can continue their expansion and apartheid.

We have oil in the States. Let's leave the Middle East to all the crazies that live there. Let them fight it out, we'll buy oil from the last man standing.

 ::monkeyflag3:: Les is correct!  ::monkeyflag3::





http://washingtonexaminer.com/sen.-lindsey-graham-to-seek-authorization-for-u.s.-attack-on-iran/article/2536040/comments#disqus_thread






Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 11:30:48 AM
http://www.humanevents.com/2013/09/17/lindseys-plan-for-war-on-iran/

Defense & National Security Lindsey’s plan for war on Iran

(http://www.humanevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/66354307503195028050-read.jpeg)

By: Patrick J. Buchanan
9/17/2013 06:00 AM

This summer produced a triumph of American patriotism.

A grassroots coalition arose to demand Congress veto any war on Syria. Congress got the message and was ready to vote no to war, when President Obama seized upon Vladimir Putin’s offer to work together to disarm Syria of chemical weapons.
 ::monkeyscissors::

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/09/17/lindseys-plan-for-war-on-iran/


 ::monkeyflag3::
 My opinion - A senility test should be given to Graham and McCain.


http://www.humanevents.com/2013/09/17/lindseys-plan-for-war-on-iran/
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

  The goal of Graham, the neocons, Israel and Saudi Arabia is not a negotiated solution permitting a peaceful nuclear program in Iran. The goal is a U.S. war to smash Iran. :(

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/09/17/lindseys-plan-for-war-on-iran/

 ::monkeyscissors::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: cookie on September 22, 2013, 08:44:33 AM
Sigh... I do not feel safe with any of our leaders. Especially Obama... He has no foreign policy idea. Scary ...


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: seahorse on September 23, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
Sigh... I do not feel safe with any of our leaders. Especially Obama... He has no foreign policy idea. Scary ...

It is pretty bad when the President of Russia looks like the Angel of the Lord  ::MonkeyHaHa::

O looks like the world's devil.

Scary, yes! O has three years left to scare us even more. 

The Good Lord is going to send me to _ell for voting for him.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Syria
Post by: klaasend on September 26, 2013, 10:08:07 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/27/world/middleeast/security-council-agrees-on-resolution-to-rid-syria-of-chemical-arms.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/27/world/middleeast/security-council-agrees-on-resolution-to-rid-syria-of-chemical-arms.html?_r=0)


September 26, 2013
Key Nations at U.N. Reach Agreement on Syria Weapons
By MICHAEL R. GORDON

UNITED NATIONS — The five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council have agreed on a resolution that will require Syria to give up its chemical weapons, but there will be no automatic penalties if the Syrians fail to comply, officials said Thursday.

The agreement, hammered out after days of back room negotiations, represents a compromise among the United States, its allies, and Russia, which had refused to go along with any measure that imposed automatic penalties on Syria if it failed to obey.

But the deal, when approved by the 15 members of the Security Council, would amount to the most significant international diplomatic initiative of the Syrian civil war. It would also be a remarkable turn for President Obama, who had been pushing for a military strike on Syria only to accept a Russian proposal to have Syria relinquish its chemical arsenal.

Western diplomats said the resolution would be legally binding and would stipulate that if Syria failed to abide by the terms, the Security Council would take measures under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, the strongest form of a Council resolution. Such measures could include economic sanctions or even military action. But before any action could be taken, the issue would have to go back for debate by the Security Council, on which Russia, like the other permanent members, holds a veto.

Samantha Power, the United States ambassador to the United Nations, said in a message on Twitter that the resolution established a “new norm” against the use of chemical weapons. Mark Lyall Grant, Britain’s ambassador to the United Nations, said in another post that the resolution agreed to by the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France would be “binding and enforceable.”

The diplomatic breakthrough on Syria came as Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, said progress had been made toward a resolution of the nuclear dispute between his country and the West.

The entire 15-member Security Council began to discuss the Syria resolution that was agreed to by the United States, Russia, Britain, France and China — the permanent members of the Security Council — on Thursday evening.

A vote on the resolution could come as early as Friday, the French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, told reporters here Thursday night, so long as the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, based in The Hague, votes on its own Syria measure early Friday. A formal vote on the measure will not take place until the international organization that monitors compliance with the international treaty banning chemical weapons drafts procedures for inspecting and eliminating Syria’s vast arsenal of poison gas.

The Syria resolution was a major milestone for the United Nations after years of largely unproductive discussions in the Security Council over the civil war in Syria, which has killed more than 100,000.

 ::snipping3::