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Thank you Klaas and Muffy!

We're there now!   ::MonkeyDance::

Grama did you make it??   ::MonkeyDance::

Love this pic....Brandi you do great work!

hello everyone and goodnite!
hope that tomorrow is the day that Haleigh is found...xx

Great Picture......Thanks for posting it Muffy!!!!!!!!!

calling it a night.....hope for good news tommorrow!

Yes, mlee I am here as well.

Thank you MuffyBee and Klaas and the posters that got this moving....in a descent hour tonight.

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks again for the link.. I finally made it to the right place, found pretty much what I was looking for, tripped over to the other one, and it too matched.....  good coverage I guess......

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q315/kimandchris2/Myspace%20Graphics/Comments/Good%20Morning/GoodMorning104.jpg)


Here is an update to the searches that were done yesterday on the Griffis/Sheffield properties.  We all want Haleigh found and returned home, but thank goodness they didn't find anything yesterday. (I am referring to the excavating, etc...)


Haleigh search resumes

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:39 AM EDT
The search for Haleigh Cummings resumed Friday on a farm owned by her mother's family.

Forty officers from five different agencies scoured property in Baker County looking for the blond-haired Satsuma child missing since February.

Authorities dug up an animal grave and checked ponds for the child's remains.

The property is owned by the family of Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, and was requested by the family, said Kim Picazio, who is Sheffield's lawyer.

continue reading....
www.palatkadailynews.com

Just bringing this over from the last thread so I can give my own answer.....
My sister has horses buried all over her 43 acres. A backhoe was used to dig the holes.
Here is some info I found via google...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080809045153AA6qBC7

www.palatkadailynews.com
Haleigh search resumes

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:39 AM EDT
The search for Haleigh Cummings resumed Friday on a farm owned by her mother's family.

Forty officers from five different agencies scoured property in Baker County looking for the blond-haired Satsuma child missing since February.

Authorities dug up an animal grave and checked ponds for the child's remains.

The property is owned by the family of Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, and was requested by the family, said Kim Picazio, who is Sheffield's lawyer.

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"We requested that they came out and search thoroughly," Picazio said. "It's very important to this family to clear their name and to make sure their name and to make sure their property was free of suspicion."

The family told authorities of dead animals buried on the property before the search began.

"We did an interview with some family members and they disclosed they buried some animals out here during the time of the Haleigh investigation, so we thought we should come out here and search the property over just to verify that these were just dead animals and nothing else," said Capt. Dominic Piscitello, chief of Putnam County's Major Crimes Unit.

Approximately 45-50 acres of property were searched, Piscitello said.

The body of a horse buried on the property was excavated and a forensic anthropologist confirmed no human remains were there.

"We found nothing that would indicate that Haleigh was here or has been here," Piscitello said.

Picazio said the area of Sheffield's grandfather's home had been searched, but not the area surrounding the Sheffield property.

In addition to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, agencies involved in Friday's search include the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Jacksonville Sheriff's Office, Baker County Sheriff's Office and dogs trained to locate cadavers.

The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office dive team additionally searched ponds on the property, with nothing found.

No other searches are planned, Piscitello said.

The kindergartner was reported missing at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10 by Misty Croslin, who is now married to Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings. She said she had put Haleigh and Ronald Junior, Haleigh's little brother, to bed at 10 p.m., and awoke at 3 a.m. to find Haleigh gone.

A national Amber Alert was issued for Haleigh at 8 a.m. the same day, and remains in effect.

Divers, ground searchers, bloodhounds and helicopters scoured the area around Satsuma throughout the week for the little girl, and horseback riders searched deep wooded areas, but nothing was found.

Authorities said they believed she was abducted, since the child is afraid of the dark and does not wander off alone.

More than 4,000 tips have been received by law enforcement, said Lt. Johnny Greenfield, a spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

Authorities are hoping to receive information that will enable them to locate the little girl.

"The sheriff's office will follow up on any piece of information given," Piscitello said. "No piece of information is too small."

To report tips, please call Crime Stoppers at (888) 277-8477.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

Does this mean....no other searches planned, period?  Are they finished searching for Haleigh?
I know that family wanted their names cleared, but this had to have cost the counties a LOT of money, I do not understand this LE, nor their methods in this case.  I don't know how much money a press conference would cost...but twice a month would be helpful, even if it were to say Nothing New....

Little Lulu - sounds to me in re-reading it they are referring to no more searches on THAT property are planned.

good morning, and I agree with you Klass.  Just seems odd, after all this time, that now they look on that property.  After all, a cleared land, does not clear them. It just means Haleigh is not there.  But, at least they are searching.  mio

Mio!!! good to see you!!! am just going to make a pitcher of my sweet tea...I am all out...xxxxx

Good Morning, and thanks for that info.

hey Cookie .... smiles at the tea... I am waiting for mine to cool off. but,have a glass sitting on my desk here..

One of Satsuma residents...picked up in St. Augustine...

Who: Vega, Luiz Alcangel, 30, Satsuma. Charge: Three counts -- burglary, burglary of occupied structure, grand theft, cocaine possession, two counts -- racketeering

www.staugustine.com


LUIZ ALCANGEL VEGA
Satsuma ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 2/11/2008 2:39:50 AM  - Booking#: 08-00685
Release Date & Time: 2/11/2008 10:11:35 AM
DOB: 5/18/1979 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
316.1931-1 DUI - 2 PRIOR CONVICTIONS M 1  $504.00  2/11/2008 10:20:00 AM
 

Good Morning Monkeys,  I'm on the second cup of coffee, and it certainly feels like a Sunday morning here..  Having to keep shaking my head to remember I'm a day behind.

morning mlee,,,ha, I am always a day behind it seems..what do you make on them searching yesterday after all this time?

morning! was really good to see you last night...

morning Gramma and all the monkeys this morning....

Good Morning Cookie and all you early monkeys.

Ummmm...mlee....your not a day behind...your a day ahead of us.  So, tell us what the NEWS is gonna be for SUNDAY.

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: I didn't even catch that! tee hee! smart monkey gramma!

I was sorry to see that LE was looking for a body. Do they no longer believe she is alive?



Picture updates:
http://www.writeintoaction.com/index.htm

Explanation:
http://www.writeintoaction.com/STORY%20A%20Second%20Opinion.htm

http://www.bloggernews.net/121388

Monkey's have any questions???  Tune in!!!!  Ask your questions!!!!

Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio Sunday June/28Posted on June 27th, 2009 by Simon Barrett in All News, Society and CultureRead 33 times.We will be running our regular call in Talk Radio show on Blog Talk Radio on Sunday June/28 at 3pm Central.

As always I cannot accurately predict who will be on the panel but I am hoping for the regular group, the Barrett’s, Ms. Pickles, TJ Hart, Art Harris, Cobra Staubs, and Denny Griffin.

article continued.........

They have to cover all the bases, but I would think they don't believe she is alive.

Thats okay,  Grama knows I was up late last night.. flipping back and forth on the web..  She knows I still haven't had enought coffee yet. 

While I was flipping around last night.. I stopped in and said hello.. guess you were already gone..  went a bit further, and ran into searching.. got to visit with her abit. all went well I think.

They have to cover all the bases, but I would think they don't believe she is alive.
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I believe you are right

Opps! sorry no rose...  ::MonkeyWaa::

Good Morning! I had some thoughts on this search. I wonder if LE didn't organize this search, not only to clear up any suspicions that Haleigh was buried there... but also for the purpose of observing other family members to gauge their reactions while the search was going on. Perhaps some LE were watching the Cummings family? I have it on good authority that some LE will do this purposely in some cases, if they suspect someone in the family.
My son worked a homicide case in my hometown several years ago that the SD handled. He and a partner were sent to South Texas to observe the husband of the murdered woman during the funeral... took pictures and everything. The man was later charged with the murder, and he shot himself in a suicide attempt before the trial started, and then did a plea bargain so the trial never took place.. he went straight to prison.

Yes, I enjoyed the visit, I have missed you lots. It was really great reading your posts and visiting. You are a wise monkey.
Good morning to you and other monkeys.

They went after the guilty one, not the parents, sisters or other relatives of the victim.
Why would the go to the Griffis/Sheffields to scare the Cummings?

I received a link yesterday of a video that Cobra put out on Youtube,  in this video he is demonstrating and talking about all of his SPYWARE.  He has this listening devise that looks like a small hand held Satellite dish, and he talks about having the ability to hear a mouse go to the bathroom at least a quarter or half a mile away..  When I saw the news that the search was on.. That video kept flashing in my mind.. And I wondered. If this was a two way street going on.
 One the actual search to get it out of the way, and two the oppotunity to watch, listen and quite possible learn things they didn't know before.. Not that I think Cobra was involved, two two things just combined.

That could very well be, I'm sure they do that quite often.

yes, could very well be...but it would be an expensive observation wouldn't it? especially to a police force who has no money allegedly....
but does anyone really think that if the Cummings did anything to Haleigh, God forbid, that they would bury her somewhere on Marie's property? surely there are other places in Florida to bury a child between their home and Marie's property.....there is lots of swamp land and land fills, lots of places...besides...I don't think that ANY of the family members harmed Haleigh...Misty knows more than she is saying, but I still don't think that any of them did anything to her...jmo....

I think this was probably paid for by Task force funding. The Probably have a federal Grant for enforecemnt as a task force, so I don't think it cost the county anything.  This task force is going to be surprising to lot of people, they have a combined Law enforcement group which includes FBI, Profilers, DEA, Law Enforcement Officers from every County, top investigators.. This I would call the Elite group in the state.  They will leave no stone unturned.  And in my opinion, if kim makes comments about this search.. Don't put alot of confidence in what she says..  I think its a smoke screen.

I don't know was it a tip, was it not a tip, it seems odd, but everything is odd. Can't tell what is truth or rumor. It seems like an expensive search LE did yesterday, but since I really don't know the workings of LE, I don't know if this is normal or not. But it sure seems strange almost five months after the fact.  ::MonkeyConfused::

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I think when the task force met, they set down and went over everything that had been done so far, and this was one thing that hadn't been completed.  So, they probably have a list of things to do.. and this was one of them.. So, they can cross it off the list. I don't believe it was a tip, I think they looked at it as an oversite, that had not been finished.  And as TxLady stated, it accomplished three things,  the search came up empty, plus they could observe family reactions. and watch for feedback on the search.. Think it was a good thing to have been accomplished.  Now, we can wait for the next thing on their list.

Marie said on her twitter page that KP did not know what was going on...read it this morning...

I hope that they put some fresh eyes and LE on this case..maybe something will happen then..jmo

very good point..

Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyDance::

I'm catching up, but wanted to say hello, and share with you guys my frustrations at the lack of progress in this case.

Where is Halegh???   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyWaa::

I don't know about Marie's twitter page. I tried that twittering but found it useless. So Marie is twittering, is any other family member twittering?

very nice Grammy....

It was, thanks  ::MonkeyCool::  Hi CBB  ::MonkeyAngel::

Hi CBB...we don't have the pleasure of you dropping by often here!
we are all frustrated and beyond! imagine how Haleigh's family must be feeling...
very sad ....

I don't tweet or twitter either...lol....there is a link to her twitter page elsewhere so I read it...
don't know about any other family members twittering....

I know I can always count on you to lift our spirits.....

Thanks, I just don't get the popularity of twittering, but so many do so I will be quiet  ::MonkeyConfused:: We haven't gotten a new photo of Haleigh from Brandi in awhile, is she on vacation?

no

Oh, the video is lovely! That's the way to start a week-end, and every day!

I'm glad I didn't miss it! ( and I may borrow it! )  ::MonkeyAngel::

Brandi Last Active:   June 23, 2009, 10:12:22 PM

Thank-you

One thing I will agree with is I wouldnt believe a word that came out of Kim Piczio's mouth.  That opinion has nothing to do with whom she represents or who is guilty of what regarding the disappearance of Haleigh but more that KP is just not trustworthy & isnt worth an ounce of respect or consideration as an attorney or otherwise.  Crystal would be wise to get rid of her.

I agree, Capp!!!  She should stick to her child custody case, and only that.  Inserting herself into the rest of this case, is none of her business, ie, comments about Le, what they did, what they haven't done, etcccccc

Maybe this is her intention, to further her qualifications and become involved with LE.  If she is commeting on the investigation, it is time to turn the faucet off....there have been enough ....speculated leaks!!!!

I hear that Gramm but Im including her involvement in the custody case as well.  KP is NOT doing Crystal any favors, she is reckless & has far too much self-interest motivation.   Crystal would be much better served to find a new attorney that specializes in child custody issues & does not wish to get all entangled in the criminal investigation other than what it may in the future correlate to child custody issues.

amen to that one Sista! and I agree with Grammy as well! my feeling all along about KP and her self interest....Crystal would be better off with some new attorney! jmo

Animals unearthed at grandmother's house in search for Haleigh

Putnam County sheriff's Lt. Johnny Greenwood said authorities had earlier conducted a ground search of the home. They were told by a family member that a horse and other farm animals were buried on the land.

"We are going back over our notes and conducting secondary searches. There has not been any new information leading us that way. We are pretty much going to dig up the horse," Greenwood said. "There is no information that she is buried there at all. We just want to cover our bases to make sure we don't leave any stone unturned."

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090627/ARTICLES/906271008/1002?Title=Animals-unearthed-at-grandmother-s-house-in-search-for-Haleigh

FDLE Hosts Roundtable on Haleigh Cummings Case

2009-6-5 by: Captain Dick Schauland

The assembly was attended by members of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and the State Attorney's Office.

During the discussion, a review was conducted of the initial call, searches that had been performed, evidence that had been gathered, results of laboratory analysis of the evidence and the results of various interviews by the different agencies.

The participants determined there are still some of the more than 4,000 leads received to be followed up on, and different ways of prioritizing those leads were discussed.  Also, quite a lot of evidence was initially collected by the FDLE Crime Scene Technicians.  Some has not yet been analyzed, and priorities were set for that analysis.  Each agency accepted responsibility for various continuing assignments as the investigation moves forward.

No suspects were identified as a result of this meeting, and no persons were eliminated.   The participants emphasized that the Haleigh Cummings case IS NOT a cold case.  There are still investigative leads to be followed, evidence to be analyzed, and previous interviews to be re-conducted.  The group intends to meet again in 30 days if the case has not yet been solved.

http://www.pcso.us/article.aspx?ArticleID=43

From Cobra's comment last Sunday, I thought she had..  Crystal was suppose to have made the statement to Cobra, that she ws hiring another attorney to handle the child custody case. So, what is Kim still doing in the case, the media hasn't been a problem of late for Crystal or Family.. Is it the Trust Fund on the Haleighbug Center account that the donations were being  put in??

Here is a video of the most recent search, Crystal speaks briefly.

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19879394/index.html

 mlee's recent comment.....

From Cobra's comment last Sunday, I thought she had..  Crystal was suppose to have made the statement to Cobra, that she ws hiring another attorney to handle the child custody case. So, what is Kim still doing in the case, the media hasn't been a problem of late for Crystal or Family.. Is it the Trust Fund on the Haleighbug Center account that the donations were being  put in??

Well, it is easy to say she wants to hire another attorney to handle the child custody case.  Whether KP was being paid is not something that we have had confirmed.  However, she obviouly was cash strapped that Barbara bailed her out with the child support payments, so how would she expect to pay for attorney fees.

FREE can only go so far.

I don't know, does make one wonder.   Has anyone heard from Jersey today???

Jerseygirl345 Last Active:   Today at 05:26:10 PM
She's signed in and looks like she's in the rafters on this thread.  MB

Thanks, she owns some nice land.

Good Evening Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

I was just strolling thru the Baker County tax records... Prevatt... i wonder if they are related to Kristina Prevatt....

2 21-3S-21-0000-0000-0230 (HX) PREVATT JAMES M & VICKI A 10577 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 000253 ACRES PART OF SW 1/4SEC 21-3S...  7/1/2007-$100 GIS
MAP
http://www.bakerpa.com/GIS/Search_F.asp

27 19-3S-21-0136-0000-0040 (HX) PREVATT JAMES L JR & WANDA J 11833 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 000250 ACRES LOT 4 HUMMINGBIRDTRAIL ...  6/1/2006-$100 GIS
MAP


3 21-3S-21-0000-0000-0220 GRIFFIS NANCY MARIE 10609 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 000253 ACRES PART OF SW 1/4SEC 21-3S...  8/1/2007-$100 GIS
MAP

24 19-3S-21-0136-0000-0130 (HX) GRIFFIS ANTHONY D & SABRINA A 11647 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 000250 ACRES LOT 13 HUMMINGBIRDTRAIL...  3/1/1997-$15,000 GIS
MAP

http://www.bakerpa.com/GIS/Search_F.asp


31 30-3S-21-0000-0000-0095 (HX) GRIFFIS JEREMY & BRUCE A 12202 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 000100 ACRES PART OF NW 1/4 OFNE 1/4...  12/1/2004-$100 GIS
MAP
32 30-3S-21-0000-0000-0096 (HX) GRIFFIS BRUCE A & NANCY M 12222 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 000100 ACRES PART OF NW 1/4 OFNE 1/4...  7/1/2005-$100 GIS
MAP
33 30-3S-21-0000-0000-0090 GRIFFIS BRUCE A 12222 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 001041 ACRES PART OF NW 1/4 OFNE 1/4...  6/1/2005-$2,000 GIS
MAP
86 22-3S-21-0000-0000-0150 (HX) GRIFFIS JOSEPH C 8619 MUDLAKE RD, MACCLENNY
LEG 001600 ACRES PART OF SE 1/4 OFNE 1/4...  7/1/1995-$100 GIS
MAP
87 22-3S-21-0000-0000-0090 (HX) GRIFFIS HAROLD 8805 MUDLAKE RD, MACCLENNY
LEG 000850 ACRES PART OF S 1/2 OFNE 1/4 ...  7/1/1995-$100 GIS
MAP
24 19-3S-21-0136-0000-0130 (HX) GRIFFIS ANTHONY D & SABRINA A 11647 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 000250 ACRES LOT 13 HUMMINGBIRDTRAIL...  3/1/1997-$15,000 GIS
MAP


65 23-3S-21-0000-0000-0030 (HX) JOHNS CLETHAN F & NORMA JEAN 7528 MUDLAKE RD, MACCLENNY
LEG 000200 ACRES PART OF NE 1/4 OFSE 1/4...  7/1/1991-$10,000 GIS
MAP

40 19-3S-21-0000-0000-0070 JOHNS CYNTHIA 12697 MUDLAKE RD, GLEN ST MARY
LEG 000320 ACRES PART OF W 1/2 OFSW 1/4 ...  2/1/2005-$68,600 GIS
MAP

Appears that someone related to the Mayor of Glen St. Mary (Juanice Padgett) is married to someone related to Marie, a (JoAnn (Dennis) Johns as well as the Boatrights.

Click on link and scroll down to PADGETT Winifred

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/obituar...

JG, I posted a few weeks ago that they are related to the Prevatts.

snipped.. by heart..

Well, i just posted it again.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Never know they could well be related.  You doing okay?

snipped from melee.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Never know they could well be related.  You doing okay?


I am doing great... thanks for asking...
 

Hey, Jersey...nice to see you...did you ejoy your time off??

Remember right, I think you had posted something about the Griffis Tax notice...has anything surfaced since then about that...have you heard???

So who would the maternal great-grandfather be??  The one that they searched his property!!

looks pretty nice huh?

It does, nice open land for kids, a lot nicer than I had pictured.

6  Prevatt, Johnnie Henry  b: 30 May 1914 in Lawtey, Fl  d: 09 Jan 1949 in Winter Garden, FL  Burial Location: Dyal Cemetery, Lawtey, Florida
...................  +Brown, Beulah "Boots" 
...................  7  Boots, 2 sons of 
................  *2nd Wife of Prevatt, Johnnie Henry: 
......................  +Griffis, Evelyn 

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/k/e/m/Doyle-Wayne-Kemp-Florida/ODT6-0031.html

Generation No. 4

17. Evelyn5 Griffis (Ollie4, John Henry3, John Henry2, James1) was born Abt. 1916 in Bradford County, Florida. She married Johnnie Henry Prevatt2, son of Jefferson Prevatt and Della Kirkland. He was born May 30, 1914 in Lawey, Florida, and died January 09, 1949 in Winter Garden, Florida.

More About Evelyn Griffis:
Date born 2: Abt. 1916

More About Johnnie Henry Prevatt:
Burial: Dyal Cemetery, Lawtey, Florida

Children of Evelyn Griffis and Johnnie Prevatt are:
37 i. Living6 Prevatt.
38 ii. Living Prevatt.

http://abrokenlimb.blogstream.com/v1/pid/94899.html

Hello monkeys! 

Hi Spydee..how are ya?

Hello Cookie!  I'm doing great.  Thanks for asking.  I've just been perusing the comments.....hoping to hear good news.   

me too Spydee! holding out hope that she will be found alive still...hope that it is soon...xxx

You missed the point, maybe I wasn't clear. LE used this search for a dual purpose... one, to clear any suspicions that Haleigh was on the Griffis property, and two, perhaps to watch the reaction of the Cummings family about the news of the search.
The man I mentioned was not convicted yet, he had not even been charged... so it was important to see how he acted, whether he showed remorse, or was grieving, or any other emotion. IOW, they were gathering information to help their case.
I'm not saying they did this to scare anybody... just saying they may have wanted to observe how the Cummings family acted while the search was going on.
Don't know if you followed the Laci Peterson case, but they surely did observe Scott during the searches... many times when he was not even aware.   

No, no.... I'm not saying they thought any of the Cummings buried her on the Griffis property. But let's just say, maybe Ron and Misty had a little laugh over them searching in Baker Co... that might indicate they KNEW she wasn't buried there. Or maybe they were nervous and scared... that might indicate that they were afraid her body would turn up and they hoped she was alive. Or maybe they just shrugged it off, went on about their business and it didn't affect them. That might indicate that they know she is not dead, they know where she is. See what I mean?
LE does this kind of thing a lot of times... observe how a person acts or talks... it gives them a little more insight into things and people.
I really don't understand why they did the search at all... I understand that it was something they needed to do... because if Haleigh is never found, but there are indications that she is dead and suspicion falls on any of the Cummings, a good defense attorney will say, "Well, no search was done on the property the mother and grandmother live, how do you know she isn't buried there?" They're getting all their ducks in a row. Not only do they have to keep investigating the case, they also have to worry about how it's prosecuted if it ever gets to the point someone is charged with a crime.

EXACTLY!! On everything you said.

Thank You, thats right, Marie requested it and because it was gonna be mandatory at some point in the future, they did it...........also Marie may have wanted it done to at least get Haleigh's story and picture bacj in the media...if only for the day!!!

Christina Prevatt related to them?

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/88/l_29001d67e82e4f29831ed7e60cd64d40.png)

Beautiful picture, JNGA - Thanks for sharing

Good Morning Monkey Friends

www.writeintoaction.com

Florida tax payers fund search for HaLeigh Cummings at request of Sheffield family to clear their name
Un-told thousands  in HaLeigh Bug funds raised for searches un-accounted for
 
June 27, 2009
 
by Timothy Charles Holmseth

Land belonging to relatives of missing five year-old HaLeigh Cummings was searched Friday, June 26, through a joint effort of law enforcement officials from Putnam, Baker, Duval, and Osceola counties in Florida. According to Florida Attorney Kim Picazio the search was a public relations venture conducted at the behest of the Sheffield family. continued.....

There are photos that we have discussed about being photoshopped....read more..

Read Fake Photo Article UPDATED 6/25/2009

www.writeintoaction.com

Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

blstarke's question....

Christina Prevatt related to them?

From what I am reading, sure sounds like.

Reading Tim's Write Into Action article....

Hmmm...HaLeigh Bug Center.  Well now, Crystal, Marie, Kim and not excluding ...JEREMIAH REGAN.

Where did the funds go???  Good...they should all be investigated for the monies collected.

Good Morning Spydee, cookie, JNGA

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/MorninMonkey-1.jpg)

Hello Grama.  I am with you.  I went back and looked through my notes and found a note I made by JR's name when I saw him making a statement for the first time.  I wrote in extra large font and in caps, "WHO IS HE? BACKGROUND? NOTE: VERY CONTROLLING. SUSPECT. NO ONE QUESTIONING HIS APPEARANCE. WHY?"

He may not have anything to do with this but from what I know of statement analysis and having only limited video clips and remarks from him I thought him to be of the con-artist variety.  I would love to have more video.  He seems to have serious ego issues and has several sides to him.   

TxLady2 I agree with you, LE does that often, checking reactions and such of people, watching people and what they are all doing.

Agreed!!!!

I would like to know just how he is related to this family. Must be pretty close, to insert himself into the Haleigh Bug Center.

Hmmm...has to be someone that would know this.

Someone must know this  ::MonkeyEek::

no chance that they could have done this search to also get the Griffis/Sheffields reactions as well?
no one has been cleared in this case...everyone is still suspect from what I hear....

I have posted this prior, but thought should insert it again here.

Watching Sheriff Hardy on the video when both Crystal and Ron got up to speak.  Hardy's face was straight ahead, but his eyes were continually moving ....watching.

Yes, I remember that.

I am sure that LE had somene undercover watching Ron & Misty while the search was being done.

morning all!

yes..where did the funds go?
inquiring minds want to know...

and to really do a fair investigation, someone to also monitor the Griffis/Sheffield reactions? Chad's as well...I hope that it revealed something...no matter who it turns out to be....I just want this case solved, Haleigh to be found and the guilty party punished...no matter who it turns out to be..

one thing that keeps coming to my mind...where was Chad at the morning that Crystal got the call that Haleigh was missing...? it was 3 A.M. something when she got the call, she did not leave her home until some time after that because she could not find Chad, which was reported and I read it...so, where was he all night long? has he an alibi? we really need to look at all angles in this case...imo....no one has been cleared yet....

Good Morning Monkeys.   

Cookie, I can give you a timeline of what occurred that morning or at least what can be confirmed.
Crystal received the call at 3:45 am  < have heard nothing about Chat>
Crystal called her Mother at 5:00 am
Crystal and Marie called Johnny Sheffield at 5:00 am to check out if this were a prank.
Marie called her supervisor at 5:00 am  took 5 minutes to find her replacement.
Johnny Sheffield returned call to Crystal and Marie and advised no Prank, active investigation.  No time, can only estimate.
Crystal and Marie arrived in Satsuma at 11:00am

<RUMOR>A bit of rumor has been put out, that they stopped at a bank and opened up a new bank account.<RUMOR>

Now, if this rumor were true..  Then that would put them at the Bank between 9:00am and 9:30 am.  Because the bank doesn't open until 9:00am, and it is an hour and a half trip to Satsuma, therefore they had to be enroute by 9:30 headed for Satsuma..   thats all that I have found......

why didn't Chad, as Crystal's fiancee accompany Crystal to Satsuma since it was her child, his soon to be step child who is missing? that has never made sense to me...this is a family emergency...If my fiancee didn't go with me at a time like that, no forgiveness there for me! jmo

also, why did Crystal wait so long to call her mom???? or just run across the yard to her home since they are so close together?? that doesn't make any sense...

This I don't have answers for, and have beat the heck out of interviews and posting, trying to make sense of it.  I know, that Marie was already up and getting ready for work by 5:00,  There was also something that I had seen or heard in the past that it was actually Marie that was called, but that has been beat down soundly.  They were living on the same property then as they are now.  Look at the photos of the kids playing in the yard, the swing.  So, Marie and Crystal in February were living no more than a run across the yard from each other.  Chad's whereabouts has never been discussed. If Crystal brought the baby with her that morning, has never been clarified.  Chad must have appeared sometime during those early days, since Ron approached  both Chad and Marcus about his being 75 per cent sure of where Haleigh was.  I have my belief's of what actually happened, but learned soundly to be careful what to put out on postings.  So, the hour and 15 minutes between the call's is a mystery, and  is in my opinion.. worth 2 cents on the open market for a deposit on a cup of coffee,   I think it is very questionable..  Did she go back to sleep?  That thought makes my hair stand on ends.
Then a thought came through, what if's all over the place.  What occurred between lets say 5:30 am when they spoke to Johnny Sheffield, and 9:30 when they left for Satsuma.  Thats 4 hours..  Where is the panic and fear, and overwhelming feeling to get there now, right now, a child is missing>>

sorry I messed that up  ^^^^...Crystal actually retracted that statement about ron saying that to Chad...either during the same interview after a commercial or the next day or soon after that...she said that she had misspoke...I noticed on the tv interview when she was saying that ron had told Chad that info, Chad looked very uncomfortable..looking down and shifting his weight back and forth if I remember right...soon after that, Crystal said on tv that she had misunderstood...it can be found on the tv interview...I remember it distinctly...just not the exact date of it being said...
and I agree, where was the panic and fear and the urge to get to Satsuma as soon as possible? questions, questions questions...

Somewhere in all of the articles I have read, there was a comment that Chad was seen getting gas in the early morning.

Don't remember where this was, but maybe it will jog another monkey's thoughts and someone will be able to find this.

Just wanted to say hello and hope haleigh is found soon...
IRRC I saw where it said somewhere that Ron was seen around 2 am getting gas at the local convient store.  Could this be what you are thinking of GramaMonkey?

i thought he was watching the baby but i'm not sure,

chad sets off my hinkey and i don't know why. ::MonkeyShocked::

Thanks for the reply. But I do remember about Chad as well.   

the first time i saw him on ng i paused my dvr and rewound him about 4 times.  why?  i don't know.  he just doesn't sit right with me. ::MonkeyNoNo::

LOL ~ mamacrazy30...your avi gave me a chuckle.  That is about what most of us monkeys do, when we are working on this case.

I'm having trouble with everyone  ::MonkeyEek::

thanks GramaMonkey.  i hope some monkey maybe has the utube of him.  i'm gonna' look ans see if there is one.  this guy weirds me out (more then most of the players in this).

well, i can't find him on youtube, i'm gonna' look and see if he's still in my dvr.....there was something either he said that caught me, or just his demeanor...i'll be right back.

i agree...i might have even thought they were all in this together, but imo they aren't the most organized bunch.

I think this whole picture thing is ridiculous.... who cares so what if she photo shopped anything... i sometimes photo shop my pics to make my upper arms look thinner... don't they have anything better to do ... it's becoming clear why no one wants cobra on the payroll if this is how he spends his time investigating

because he kept looking at the ground and he was messing with the dirt with his feet...nervous, anxious? dunno....
doesn't sit right with me for some reason either...
and from what we read, he did not go with Crystal that morning to Satsuma..and I thought that she took Chloe with her that morning cause some posters said that she took so long to get to satsuma cause she had to get the baby and her things together... ::MonkeyConfused:: if ya had a kid missing, wouldn't you just throw some stuff into a bag? everyone is different I guess...

just watched the vid and had a thought/question... is jr already at his moms for the summer... must have been awful for him to watch this going on if he was

I do to  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't think the the photo being altered and displayed is as important,  as the intent  behind doing it.  That's where the problem lies.  The photo is the end result, of an attempt to deceive people.  Thats the big problem.  The wanted the public to see a loving sweet family photo of Mother and Children, for the american pubic to see, and the biggest element at hand are the faces of the children, and how happy they are to be held by their Mother.  I guess you can say, they didn't have one so they had to make one...   My question, who was the original person holding the children that made them so happy.
 
And, the company who wrote the web pages and created the web site, suddenly pulled its logo off of the site.  Now, you have to ask yourself who had the creative ability to alter a photo..   It is the intent to collect donation monies, in a mannor that was not completely bases on Honesty.  Thats the point.

Hum 4 hours to get things together.  Long time. I rather think that about 3 and a half hours too long.

maybe 3 minuets...

Thanks for the reminder Grama.

I called in and asked the  following questions:

1) Where is Lisa and Amber Brooks?

2) Is Ronald currently working?

3) Is Kim Picazio remaining Crystal Sheffield's attorney?

4) Who is Timothy Charles Holmseth and is he a reliable source?

good questions Heart! is the program on now? you go girl!

never mind....listening to it now...xxx

Yes, it is still on currently cookie.

are you listening? I have it pulled up on 1 window to listen to it...and another window open so I can still be here..tee hee! modern technology! Cobra is really down on KP!

they are down on bloggers for sure!

Heart...did they ask any of your questions? I tuned in late so I didn't hear much else except them talking about Art's site and about bloggers...

Thanks cookie for asking that question. I had tuned in at the beginning, then my daughter phoned long distance, so was gone for the first 45 min.

thanks for the link to it gramma...first I had thought that it was Heart who supplied it, then a read it again and realized that you had posted it farther up...which I had seen this morning when I was here...ran out to do some shopping and just looked at the latest post so then I clicked into the program...
did you hear TJ talking about bloggers? he was pretty nasty about it...

Apparently there is supposed to be an interview on TJ's website with Ruby Kanger, mom in law of Johnny Sheffield.  She is somewhat..or I think furious of the fact that they went and searched the Griffis/Sheffield property.

Sky News website, he said in about 3 hrs. he will have the interview up for all to listen to.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/233855.php

Thanks Heart for asking those questions, hopefully when your back online we can hear the response for those of us that missed it.

Check this out.  www.artharris.com  This is the website that Art does his articles on.  The article is:  Mystery Donor Revealed...scroll down to Art's reply post #118...

here is part of it...

So why don’t they just stop asking “the obvious”, such as the repeated emails I get that ask to confirm whether LE searched UNDER Haleigh’s trailer. HELLO?! Ya don’t think? These people are ridiculous, and jump to accusations of wrongdoing at the site of ANYTHING or any information in this case. I have just had it. I just don’t care anymore. I don’t care to even monitor the blogs anymore, and my staff members have been instructed to stop monitoring them. They are ridiculous at this point. And I just don’t give a damn what their ludicrous theories are. Tell them that this is probably one of the last explanations I will give their nosy, insidious allegations. They have burned this candle out. No wax left.”

remember....it's the bloggers that caused all of this..Right?

I heard you

I guess I can see your point but the first thing cops tell you while pleaing for a childs return is to personalize as much as you can... like repeat their name a lot... not just "my daughter" and to break out the touching photos... I think people are putting too much weight on this and making it seem far more nefarious than it is... I share custody of my oldest with my ex and i do not have as many pics of her as i do my other kids... doesn't mean anything.... and as far as web designers/programmers  go they work under contracts for periods of time and during that period have the right to post their logo if they want... maybe the contract expired (not saying that is what happened but it is possible)

requoting again:
i am not convinced that this pic was even altered in the manner tat has been suggested i went to that site and saw their reasoning and i do not agree with their points at all and i also think that words were twisted.... when he makes the comment of not knowing how many times it was regenerated that cold be as simple as... crystal or whoevere had the pic on a digi cam... uploaded it to a computer that wasn't hers and emailed it to herself then downloaded it from the email and saved it on desktop then uploaded it to photo bucket then re downloaded it to post somewhere else like myspace or facebook then re downloaded it to be put on this website then uploaded it to this website... also when doing webs GIF files work better and converting a jpeg to GIF causes some distortion too... as far as the hands not matching the arms maybe she went and got a spray tan in which case you put cream on your hands so that it doesn't stick tere and turm your hands orange since they are a diff skin type then arms.... i work with pics all the time and to get rid of a person who they assume is taller then crystal and to put back the window behind it you would have seen a lot of distortion in te window area no matter how good the tweaker was ... and i don't see that

Answer: Per Cobra yes Tim is a reliable source. However Cobra is not into the photoshop issue and knows nothing about it. But he does appreciate Tim Holmseth.

Thanks Penny for your explanation of the movement the original pic does.  Sure does help to better understand the process.

LOL, right mamacrazy30,  and Art, Bloggernews and God bless his heart TJ.
Poor TJ needs to take Twitting 101.  If it was'nt for the bloggers and their members, they would be out of business.

Instead of being so rude about the bloggers, there is a very simple procedure to follow.  I am sure many of the monkeys have read other sites, and can agree that some of them are pretty darn nasty comments being made. 

So, if it is getting to Art, shut it down, simple as that.

Thanks Heart for the responses to your questions.

agreed Grammy...and Art's site is really one of the rudest around in my opinion...I deleted my account over there cause you couldn't even have a discussion without someone in your face ..not mine ...but other posters who were trying to get their point across...a bid waste of time I thought...maybe it is better now that there is a mod there...haven't bothered checking...

Now that I have read all the allegations that go along with the numbers on thhe pic that was supposedly photoshopped it upsets me greatly... the writer of this article is the only thing nefarious... here are his reasonings and my disputes (I work in web design and have been doing these things for years now... yet i do not claim to be a photo shop expert for 18 years like this elvin person, photo shop was released 18 years ago but was not even wide spread at the time and since this guy is not the creator of i don't see how he can deem himself an expert at it since it hit the shelves)

1. Located here is either a head or a shoulder. It is not part of the couch. It is likely a man.
to me this is definitely part of the couch

2. Located here is what appears to be a large elbow - likely of a man.
this is not an elbow whatsoever it is a strand of haleigh's hair

3. The color of HaLeigh's shirt was deliberately painted to match Crystal Sheffield's shirt, which was also painted.
this is not a painted shirt it is the actual shirt there is another pis of haleigh wearing it on the haleighbug website and my daughter has the exact same on it is a dora shirt and it was most likely bought at walmart since that is where i got mine

4, This is man's arm. Note the dark tan on the arm stops at the knuckles where the fingers suddenly turn white.
this is not that noticeable as it is stated and as i said a pigment distortion occurs naturally in digi photos as they are light and shadow sensitive or maybe she has a tan

5. This shows a "dip" between the arm and the wrist that is inconsistent with  human anatomy.  It looks like this  because a woman's hand was photoshopped/ connected to the large arm.
not true at all look at the other pic on the haleigh website where she is with jr and chloe same exact impossible indent... it happens when you are apply pressure on your inner arm

6. This is a very incriminating area of deception. If you zoom in tight you will see that the hand that was connected to the arm did not match, and is so un-even that there is a 90 degree angle line exposing the photo shopping.
i have zoomed in and this is just made up again it is the angle of the arm along with the pressure factor as she is squeezing haleigh

7. If you zoom in on the little boy's shirt you will see blurry pixilation in many areas. This is because the little boy was likely put into the picture.
more like it was a plaid shirt that was washed a lot and has become fuzzy... the pixelation thing tat they are claiming would only occur around the edges of his shirt if this were true

8.  There is a un-natural hole in the head here that could not be rectified during the photo shopping process.
there is no hole in the head there is slight distortion beside the head which is most likely hair frays if this were a hole as they claim this would be the most preventable thing from ocurring and if like they claim that this was photo shopped then all you would have to do to fix it would be to copy the color of the couch and paste it over such said hole

9. This ear does not match the other ear.
crystal has strange ears that do not match and i have always noticed this more specificly in the professional photo of her and haleigh where she is wearing a maroon tank top and haleigh's webbed neck issue is really noticable

10. If you zoom in and look at the tip of the adult's finger, you will see "white" from the little boy's shirt in un-naturally blending into her finger-tip. This is the result from photo shopping.
this is the best one of them all it is called french manicure sillies and you do not even have to zoom in to notice that... all of her fingertips have white on them not just the ones near the shirt

I'm sorry if this is redundant but previously I had only read the comments on the picture and had not looked up the reasonings to go with the numbers.... this guy is bull... as is Elvin who is a supposed expert and whoever this woman with the same last name as elvin who is a supposed child advocate is also full of it

your welcome and a further note to the fact that they suggested that jr was not even really in the pic is ridiculous... the fact that they suggest that they forgot to add haleigh's thumb is even worse... they are not even suggesting a typical photoshop they are suggesting some sort of frankenstein creation... so if they took the pics and bleneded every single  element together then why didn't haleigh have a thumb in the supposed original... theses people are ridiculous and definitely not experts as they appointed themselves

The article I snipped was from his website with the answers below.  But....not posting on the others, I found SM to be the only one without all of the arguing, harrassing, nit picking, etc.  Oh yeah, we have some, but definitely the bare minimum.

GO MONKEYS GO

I think that the reason that we don't have it here is because the mods/admin run a tight ship which I am grateful for...they do an excellent job...

Wow...appears someone is off the beaten path with their analysis of the pics. 

My only thought about the picture is that I don't know that much about it to comment too much..other than to say that I think that Crystal would have plenty of pictures of her and her children that she or whomever would not have to photoshop a picture..jmo  but one never knows...stranger things have happened I suppose...

Ummmmm there are the Monkeys and there are the OTHER ONE'S.

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 LOL....Grammy....I enjoy the other ones too....some really nice people on other forums, which I am sure that posters know without me telling anyone that...

okay so i found thi sin regards to the rebecca thomas who initiated the file which prompted kp to go nonprofit
http://www.nonprofitfinancefund.org/details.php?autoID=7#thomas
she seems to have some credentials as far as financing and organizations...
whoever this elvin thomas is he is the one making the allegations about the pic and she seems to be buying it... I still disagree

For sure, plus I am sure the relatives also had many. 

I too shared your opinion and without seeing the pic thought hhhm strange if she did but wouldn't surprise me since like you said stranger things have happened.... it is only after reading their reasons that i have become  "obsessed LOL" with calling them out on their BS... I even had my husband look at it and he is no computer whiz but even he could tell that she had a french manicure for pete's sake

That was a big help, I know nothing on this topic, thanks.

I would like to hear brandi's opinion in depth on this pic as I assume she is familiar with layering, and hopefully chroma key which is basicly the type of things you would need to do to alter a picture in this way

Thanks Penny  ::MonkeyCool::

since I seem to have changed the topic to pic altering there is a free download available called paint.net it is pretty much the same as photo shop but is free where as PS is about $800 bucks... it comes with tutorials on how to use it, it is very user friendly and there is a forum for questions and updated features... you should all get it is virus free and you would all have a lot of fun with it...
it is kind of a large file so if you have an old computer or are low on space I suggest downloading it to a disk rather than your desktop.
here is the link if you want it
http://www.getpaint.net/

not sure if Brandi is on here, but I thought that she had said that she didn't think that the photo had been "monkeyed" with...hope I am right about that...

Whatever is over at Art's is one scary mess.... I mean they are flipping around in circles, and half of it doesn't make any sense.  I don't think this is a group of normal people..  I would put money on most are paid bloggers, and ruthless at times.

lol...who would pay them mlee? they are so bad, some of them...ruthless is for sure!

Write into Action just maybe interested in your honest opinions and reasoning.

good thought there gramma...smart monkey that you are!

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4691482.php


Posted: Sunday, 28 June 2009 7:03PM

Haleigh's Great Grandmother Speaks Out

tjhart@entercom.com

 
Raw Audio Podcast: TJ Hart and Ruby Kanger (9:28)

In the wake of the fruitless search Friday for a missing Putnam County girl on a farm owned by her mother's family in Baker County, Florida at the family's request, another relative of Haleigh Cummings has decided to speak out.



 

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I don't know.. I am not anywhere near an expert on any of the art programs. I did blow the photo up and looked at each point that was described. The things that I noticed, there was apparently weight against the sofa. Also, I noticed the area behind her right ear that seemed odd and distorted, and the area above and behind her left should does not look like part of the normal sofa, and it does have the apprearance of smooth curve similar to what another shoulder would look like.
I thought about a pillow behind her, and observed the pillows on the far left, have sharp corners, so that would not be the same type of cushion.   But, I do know one thing.  If it was altered or if it wasn't.. its not really part of this case.  Haleigh gone missing and the issues of acquiring donations are two different subjects.  To make them part of one another, creates a overwhelming problem.  So.. in all honesty,  I would keep the two issues separate and just not make this an issue of importance on this photo..

seems she is saying some of the same things that the monkeys have been saying...
Misty does hold the key to this mystery imo...and she is only protecting herself, no one else...and certainly not Haleigh jmo...

There are sites that hire paid bloggers..  all of this people are suppose to do is create Mayham, to keep the board busy at all times, to attack and hurt feelings if need be. But, no one is going to have the opportunity to share information.  And no one is going to do any research..  And the answer to who would hire them, someone who wants the site in shambles.

ahhhhh....I see...makes sense...

That was interesting, thanks.

Ruby is the Mother of Connie Sheffield, Johnny's Mother in Law, who currently holds the contract with Cobra.  I don't know Cookie and Grama..   You have two separate families, both point fingers at each other, and then you have kp who I wouldn't hire for anything in this world, and wouldn't trust a word that comes from her mouth.. And it all still seems part of pattern.. If no one in either family knows what happened to Haleigh, and ron has not obtained the truth out of misty by now, if she did do something, and then if she didn't and doesn't know.  Then I guess it was the little green men, that came in and took her off in a spaceship.  Or the whole bunch of them are snowing us....  One big snow job.

I don't think that Misty harmed Haleigh herself...I think that she was gone that night and that is what she is not telling...she left the back door open so that she could slip back in before Ron got home from work imo  and someone who had noticed that she often went out after ron went to work, came in and took Haleigh for what ever reason...this I think is what she is hiding and does not want to admit to anyone...her guilt has to be immense...she needs to tell the truth ...for Haleigh's sake! all my opinion..

there are also sites that pay bloggers to post so that they can have higher traffic volume when they want to sell advertising spots on their website...
in a case like this one where there is no new info and you need to keep the traffic flow to what it once was then it would make business sense to have bloggers start topics/fights with others that would require a response keeping the traffic flow the same and most likely prolonging the ammount of time thety stay on the stay on the site... both are selling features to advertisers... existing advertisers will not renew their time period if your flow declines...
we know from the past when he was upset about not linking his quotes that art is very interested in advertisers as he said so himself...
if i understand it correctly he is no longer moderating his bloggers... bad move as he too can be held culpable for defamation if they overstep the bashing line

he needs more moderation over there, not less...otherwise he needs to close the forum..jmo

I agree (today at least LOL) what if whoever brought her out ,cousin joe, some one else, whoever really, was supposed to go somewhere and get high with her... they get to the place and the person who was supppose dto supply said no i won't sell you any but i'll do some with you but not your friend that i don't know... misty tells the other person that the supplier doesn't have any that she wants to hang out for a while so go on without her... the other person knows what is going on and that they were used for a ride only... they also know that haleigh is now home alone.... aye aye aye so many possible variations but i agree i do not think misty intentionally hurt her... I think

Your absolutely right.. Hey, that sight is like stepping into the flow of traffic at 5:00pm  in the middle of wall street.

entirely possible!

I don't think misty hurt Haleigh either..  I do believe misty may well have been out that night with cousin joe in the blue van, and had left the kids at home alone.  I have also come to the conclusion, that when misty arrived home, she was dropped off by cousin joe and he returned back to the residence he was staying in.  And that as misty walked in the front door of the house, she just missed them going out the back door.  Who???? we can only guess...

Let's keep our fingers crossed that the poster that stated her foster daugher knows of a person that had seen Misty out that night......can get this settled and hopefully LE will have the proof they have been waiting for..and can get this ball rolling in the right direction.

Now someone with LE knowledge =  do you know, if it was proven that Misty had left the children and had gone out, would that be enough evidence to charge her with child endangerment??

I thought it was stated before that misty did not have a key to the trailer and that Ron was the only one with the key... this always lead me to believe that if misty was to sneak out she would have used the back door, left the interior one unlocked and closed and may have propped the exterior backdoor herself to avoid waking the kids on reentry and getting caught red handed by haleigh or JR...
ITA except for the part of her coming in the front as they go out the back... I think if she was to sneak out she would not have been bold enough to use the front door...

absolutely it is called abandonment and it applies to anyone under 12

back door in my opinion too....the back door would be harder to detect if someone was driving up the driveway, like ron coming home from work...
I am convinced that she snuck out of the house at night after the kids were in bed while ron was working...she is a 17 yr old kid who still liked to party...she would not be sitting home every night twiddling her thumbs imo....

Another question - Guess where this monkey is going???



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We need to go back and remember who that was, the girl is moving out of state right?  If she does know something, then maybe she will open up.

lol! me too Grammy! pretty soon..
sleep tight...we will sleuth again tomorrow... ::MonkeyWink::

I believe that it was Haleysnana? if I remember right...her daughter/foster child (?) was perhaps going to the police once she moved because she is frightened while living where she lives...? think I got that right...if I am wrong Haleysnana, forgive please.....

I agree  that makes two of us....... Been a long hot day again...  rain, rain, rain.. I dream of rain.....  Good night ladies, please have a safe and restfull night........  And Cookie.. stay home in the cage where it is safe..  ::MonkeyWink::

I remember.....will never forget that poster's name.

Good Cookie, at least it shows we don't have alzheimer's....yet!!!!!

Yep, and she is moving somewhere on the east coastline..... I remember the name of the town..  email grama..

I think this was Ron's way of keeping her butt at home ( so he thought).  Only one key, he has it....back door is locked, if she went out, she could not get back in.

But, don't think Ron thought of the cinder block, at least he didn't even know they were on the property.

Gotta keep an eye on that poster over at Art's.... ::MonkeyCool::

mlee - thinking about taking a road trip??? ::MonkeyHaHa::

Remember there were 5 keys to the house, and for some reason, they sent the deputy to Marie to get her key???  I don't remember anyone ever talking about misty having or not having a key on the interviews.

She won't be too far from here..  will find a way to visit..  with help from poster.

Misty had to have a key to get into the house, if ron wasn't there.  Especially if she didn't come home that sunday night and he was working both landscaping or cutting trees and then he had to be at work by 3:00 if he was pulling a 12 hour shift, which means misty had to be able to get in.

There was suppose to be a key to that house on the van keys.. remember.......

mind you I am not sure that it is Haleysnana that knows the girl in question...I just asked her a minute ago if it was her...I could very well be mistaken...that just rang a bell for me..sorry Haleysnana if I was wrong!!!

Haleysnana is coming over in a few minutes... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: stay up grammy..

See, I turn my back and you run out of the cage..  Never leave home with out it..

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Haleysnana, we were talking and wanted to know if you have a young person who is moving out of florida soon?  Like maybe up into North Carolina?

Hi everyone, you are all right it was me and it was a girl I took in at the age of 13 so I call her my foster daughter. I just tried her phone and it is cut off so I went to her my space and she has posted there that she is back in Wilmington. I will have to track her down tomorrow, I'm sure she will call me soon, my hubby said she called Thursday and I wasn't here but the 386 # I just tried has been cut off!

ha ha! thanks friend!   ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyConfused:: Am I the only one here? Cookie where did you go?

I am here..ha ha...just answering mlee's post..she is still here too I think..
gramma was going to bed...I am not far behind...

Yep, we need to visit..  Here is a link..   http://s3.invisionfree.com/HaLeighbug/index.php

we are here...

Yes, it does look like the room is filling up..  not alone anymore......

Hey Cookie I see Gator is not happy about f.daughter not going to LE, I'm not happy either but I can't force her to give me the girl's name who told her this, I have turned over her place of employment and asked that someone question everyone there! I am going to try and locate her tomorrow and talk her into giving me a name. Now that she is safely home there is NO reason for her not to. But in any event maybe the girl who told her is making it up, I don't know why anyone would but you never know about people. I will track her down and let you all know what happens. I hope it is true, maybe then they would be able to charge Misty with something and make her talk.

It's not cookie, it's the ole one... I know this is rough for you..  I need to visit with you.... follow the link, and register.
http://s3.invisionfree.com/HaLeighbug/index.php

mlee...I didn't know this forum existed! is it on the Haleighbug website that you created??? geez! I am going to visit there more often...have bookmarked the link....do I have to register?

Haleysnana, you are not responsible for what this girl does or does not do...all that you can do is guide her to do the right thing and report it, even if it is by crimestoppers or some other tip line...don't worry about what others say...all that you are doing is forwarding some info that someone close to you told you...it is on your foster girl, not you...xxx

Yes, and please use your current username..  we all have kept ours. easier to know who is who..

which poster? i'm lost

Thanks Cookie, now that I know she's in town I will push her for a name but when I first told you all about this I felt bad for not calling LE myself but all I know is that it was a girl who worked with her who was related to the manager and was supposedly into drugs and knew both Misty and Ron! I did like I said turn over her place of employment but did not have a name to give, even gave them f.daughters first name so she could be questioned and as yet I don't believe the info has even been checked into. I will find out from her ASAP.

Not quite sure, think grama ran across something, she wanted to check on.

all the more reason why she wouldn't have a key if she ever did at all... if he kicked her out before the bender he would have taken it back... for some one who changes the locks as soon as he moved in even tough the landlord already had them changed he would not have left te key to all his belongings in the hands of a scorned teenage ex/girlfriend

I see Blstarke in the house.. come visit.... 

no where is that coming from i don't think i've ever heard that before at all

well, from what we have read, the LE have a lot of tips that they have yet to follow up on!  this could be one of them! maybe f daughter has already reported it but no one has followed up on it! ::MonkeyNoNo::

only one that I ever use..will register..thanks...

is your other site invite only?

just registered...waiting for my "ok" to start posting...

It looks like to me they would follow up on any tip especially if all they had to do was go to Palatka and question a few employees. I don't think they have because I'm sure she would have called and ask me if I told, because I did give out HER first name so they could ask her who the girl was. Sorry, wish I had some good news. I will most definitely get up with her ASAP and see if she will make that call I don't know why she wouldn't now that she no longer lives there or works at that place. Hope everyone has a good night. Hi mlee I've been seeing you at Art's I haven't posted a lot there though as there is so much bickering!

don't think so Penny...just hope it doesn't take as long to get into that one as it did to get into here! lol!

No.. open for all

you have done your part then...it is up to daughter to do the right thing..xxx
speak with you in the morning? goodnite...

okay i'm waiting too

Hey, you all

hello to you and I bid you all a good nite...
will visit in the morning...xx

Just thinking outloud.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I wonder that evening if after Jr fell asleep and Haleigh was still up  Misty took Haleigh somewhere with her... Maybe she had to make a drug run and in the process was caught up for alittle bit with the drug crowd and something happened during or on the way back... There was no sign of a break in... In one of the pics of the back door by the dryer looks like a piece of wall taken out right where a dryer vent would go...I wonder if something was stored in the dryer vent??

i think if that was thhe case then haleigh would have told ron... unless ron knew they did this often and was okay with it since she was making a run for him....
i never thought about the dryer vent but was always suspicous if they kept something in the wall... maybe le took the dryer vent as evidence... i would if misty was doing laundry... they even take drain piping from sinks if they think someone washed bloody hands... whatever happened to the missing bedding that was supposedly in the van

I was more thinking on the line that Ron either knew this or he didn't... ::MonkeyTongue::

If Ron did know this it would explain his defense of Misty and the praising of Misty from GGRanny and mother Teresa...JMO

The back door... ::MonkeyTongue::

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i've never seen that pic... is that the hole he punched? nice way to not disturb evidence

agreed

I don't know fit was the the wall he punched or the piece of wall LE took but it seems to me its where a dryer vent would go.... ::MonkeyTongue::

do you by any chance have any pics of where a possible broken mirror would have been... i've always been suspicous of misty's claim to nay nay of being all cut up on her arms from ron pushing her into a mirror in the big figt b4 the bender

i agree but on art site it said he punched a hole in a door is that white spot on te door the hole?

snipped by penny...

do you by any chance have any pics of where a possible broken mirror would have been... i've always been suspicous of misty's claim to nay nay of being all cut up on her arms from ron pushing her into a mirror in the big figt b4 the bender..

Hmm maybe we can check the bathroom ....

I dont know...

I think the white hole was a peep hole... I am going to check for pics of the masterbath and more back door pics.....I wonder if there are any front door pics???

the only good pics i saw of the bathroom was when it was first posted for rent and it was intact... but it would have been fixed by then i would assume... also way back i had posted on here i think about the first real estate pics that showed all trash in the front porch still and the kids toys left behind and posters questioned as to whether or not they were actually theirs and i was hit with all sorts of you can't prove thats... well i recently saw a pic of haleigh o the very same tricycle so i was right... not addressed to you at all and real ot but i forgot to mention that before LOL

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here is the 2nd round of realtor pics (the first round was taken down soon after i blogged the h out of how messed up it was that he left her toys along with unwanted trash)
http://satsuma.fl.house.info/234688-house-rent

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Thanks for the link of pics .. Was there another bathroom?

yeah supposedly... it blows my mind how these trailers can be so "spacious" double wide or not...
here is #204 for rent right now
2bed 3 bath 1514 sq ft... blows my mind
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/204-Green-Ln_Satsuma_FL_32189_1110477554

Some person from my town told me, at the beginning of the investigation,that
he had gotten in a fight with Ron at one time and he couldn't stand
the man. He told me that he knew where Ron kept his drugs in
the house. Strange, I used to see this man frequently and I haven't
seen hin since that day. I don't know his name.

here  is the ad that ran before ron rented it.... the deatails say quiet and secure ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://www.rentboard.com/rentals/rent.aspx?pstuid=6de682d4-0dda-4e5b-a750-185e465d868c&s9=1&s19=50&s6=1&s1=4183&locid=4183&s13=1&psttyid=11&s7=10&s10=1

Yep.. The flyer stated 2 baths... I guess there have been no pics of the 2nd bath to check it out...

and the realtor is now using the exact same ad posted 4/27/09 still quiet and secure
http://www.rentboard.com/rentals/rent.aspx?pstuid=6de682d4-0dda-4e5b-a750-185e465d868c&psttyid=11&ref=googlebase

Thats what I was thinking... That maybe the drug were store in a dryer vent... My 1st impression...

edit drugs

I think that drugs were stored in a wall... remember supposedly le took part of a wall that covered some sort of water heater area... i would like to hope that le took the dryer vent as well... right next to a dryer vent may not be a good place to store any type of drug due to heat and humidity ruining the quality... bad for coke and grows mold on weed and turns it black

Good point....

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okay so technically the back door is not a "back" door but rather a side door....
basing on the spacial layout of these 3 pics it does not seem that the vent lines up with the hole in the wall... I don't think this is a dryer vent hole anymore

There's the dryer vent on back of the house

Hello Monkeys,.. I am Rose Red ,.. I use to post at Arts forum before I was banned Saturday ..

My current take, meaning in my opinion, on the Haleigh Cummings case is that Ron Cummings is in no way responsible for the "disappearence" of his daughter Haleigh & that PCSO is totally clueless as to who may be involved & furthermore that they seem to have no evidence stating any different else we would see the suspect list narrowed & a person of interest named or an arrest ..

I based my opinion on what I see as evidence or lack of evidence & am eagerly awaiting any further evidence or opinion that this forum has to offer or that of the PCSO .

Glad that your administrators accepted me as a member & for that I say Thank You Monkeys for having me .

I am quite opinionated & hope that nobody takes offense to that & I will do my best to remain respectful & courteous to all opinions that differ from my own ..

However I hope this forum allows "HEALTHY" debate of the issues without threat of being banned.

right but according to the inside pic of the door it shoul be right beside the door not on the back of the house

welcome your disclaimers made me giggle

my spider senses are going off

snipped by BL..
okay so technically the back door is not a "back" door but rather a side door....
basing on the spacial layout of these 3 pics it does not seem that the vent lines up with the hole in the wall... I don't think this is a dryer vent hole anymore

Could then vent in the back of the home be for a bathroom vent???

it could but going by the space inside it does not seem that it would be... if it were it does not look to be a large enough are for any type of shower/tub which is really the only reason vents are put in bathrooms is to avoid moisture mold.... and if it is a bathroom vent then where does the dryer vent hole of the inside near the door lead out to?

good question... My take the dryer is by the side door but dryer is on back wall.. Do you have a pic of the entire back wall...

I believe the horizontal vent that is being discussed by the short window is the stove vent..

Forgot to add entire back wall of exterior...excuse  me for my typing.. had work over 50 hours this week...

Thanks..

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i got ya am i assuming that we were talking about 2 totally diff things?... i thought you were saying that the black area above the dryer is the hole... which i think you are ... and you are now asking me about the entire back wall because of the couple feet missing of the outside pic of the back wall?
am i following so far?
are you asking me that because you think that the vent is behind the dryer but not showing in the pic?
if the internal hole is on one wall then the external hole would most likely be on the same wall.... dryer vent is usually big and breakable and for the sake of simplicity does not usually run L shape around a corner unless it has to but it is possible...
(hope that made sense and didn't sound crabby... i'm getting a lil tired )

LOL... I find the piece of wall by the dryer interesting...Now if that was the place ron punched sorta out of the way to punch but maybe LE did that that piece by the dryer for a reason....

Wonder what happen to the occupant (Tresha  Wright) at 204 Green Ln?

i agree so lets just call it a drug hole for tonight and pick it back up tomorrow... where did you get the floor plan from... i still don't see the other bathroom... and i think i can feel my brain rotting out of my head

isn't that jerry santo's g/f

the reason i ask is i have a good 3d drawing program and if that is a reliable source then i can create a virtual interior ... like the forensic people do... then we can all drive our selves nuts walking around in it LOL

isnt the masterbath in the masterbedroom

well it was posted on mls on 6/26... so wherever she went it must have been recent... realtors don't hesitate to post for rents like they do for sales... ( yes i am a realtor too... you guys must think i am a nut with all my different random jobs LOL)

i would think so but the other one seems larger and in the first set of realtor pics you could see a very large corner unit tub which was raised off the floor and had a wood casing around it... almost jacuzzi like... and that pic was labeled master bath and this floor plan doesn't make the "master bath" big enough to hold that ....
maybe that hole is the entrance to the 2nd bath LOL
I am absolutely losing it

I also found this on Tresha Wright... Don't know if is the same one... other names look familiar..

Tresha Wright
3201 Crill Ave
Palatka, FL 32177

http://www.voterfocus.com/ws/wscandnew/candidate_pr.php?op=rp&e=8&c=putnam&ca=96&sdc=53&cname=Brad%20Purcell&coffice=Bd%20of%20County%20Comm%20Dist%205&rptdate=F3%3Cbr%3E(8/2/2008%20-%208/21/2008)%20&rellevel=4&dhc=755&committee=N

i hope this link works.. contributions for brad purcell

http://www.voterfocus.com/ws/wscandnew/candidate_pr.php?op=rp&e=8&c=putnam&ca=96&sdc=53&cname=Brad%20Purcell&coffice=Bd%20of%20County%20Comm%20Dist%205&rptdate=F3%3Cbr%3E(8/2/2008%20-%208/21/2008)%20&rellevel=4&dhc=755&committee=N

i found this matching the crill ave address
http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Crill.and.Palm.Veterinary.Hospital.386-328-9616
and the link you posted was something i don't understand... wrong link?

it does but it is blank no tresha on there

Google tresha wright name and then click on the link for candidiate report...

this is the one you want
http://www.voterfocus.com/ws/WScand/pdf_putnam/e8c96_F3_dhc755sdc53.pdf

Thanks.. See her name under contributions.. maybe she used her work address..

tresha had/has a po box address
http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=tresha&name=wright&street=&city_zip=&state_id=FL&localtime=survey

Welcome Rose Red!

also after thought if tresha works at this vet that she listed for an address on the contribution page...
a) why would she not put her own add
b) why does she have a po box
c) was she hiding from someone and leary about people getting her home address
d) if she worked for a vet did she have access to ketamine alkso known as special k ... a cat tranquilizer that can be smoked and its effects are similar to angel dust... that actually has a high street value

TRESHA WRIGHT     Get the Dirt   Check for Email Address
204 GREEN LN   Neighborhood & Property Report  Record Created: Unknown       
SATSUMA, FL  32189   XXXXXX   Confirm Current Phone & Address   
Background Check on TRESHA WRIGHT   


this was on zaba search.. klaas does not want us to post phone numbers...
 

i gotta go to bed guys if not i will not be able to function in 5 hours for work.... yuck

Goodnight Monkeys and Guests!

Hmmm I dont know.. But I read that she was jerry santos g/f.. Might be worth looking into...

Good Night All.... ::MonkeyCool::

I will do some research on Tresha wright...

LOL I notice your a realtor...So am i...

Now somewhere I read that the a/c guy live next door.. ::MonkeyTongue::
I found a Billy Don Wright that owns a a/c company... I wonder if he is the a/c guy...

http://pubtitlet.co.pinellas.fl.us/clbsearch/ClbSearchResults.jsp?last_name=wright&last_name_search=Search&active_only=Y&jc=B

Also a Dan Wright..

   
Contact Details 
 
 
 
Tresha C Wright, 204 Green Ln, Satsuma, FL. XXXXXXXX.. 
 Search Person    Search Phone    Map Address  www.whitepages.com 
 
 
Tresha Wright. 818 S 13th St, Palatka, FL. XXXXXXXX
 Search Person    Search Phone    Map Address  whitepages.addresses.com 
 
 
Tresha Wright, PO Box 992, San Mateo, FL... 
 Search Person    Map Address   whitepages.com
 
 

Here is a floorplan that was posted by Klaas, created by another Monkey after watching the videos.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4634.1320

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Hello Rose Red and welcome to the cage. Good to see you here.was not aware you had gotten banned. We are friendly here and yes,we have healthy debates, if we get out of line or anything, the mods are good about letting us know. We do not attack each other here over opinions and theories,for the most part,most all monkeys are respectful of others rights to their opinions. Monkeys are a group of very kind people.

WELCOME  RED ROSE

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Nice to see you join in!!!

Jersey ~ I wonder if she is related to the Pastor Terry Wright.

www.artharris.com     WOW

Haleigh Search Yields No Clues, Just Crack!

Crystal Sheffield With Baby Chloe
By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, © www.artharris.com, all rights reserved

Two months before Friday’s police search, a grieving mother hunting answers requested a parent update from frustrated Putnam County detectives working the Haleigh Cummings mystery, only to learn investigators had no break in the case, but were working hard to follow up some 4,000 tips they’d run down, and remained committed to finding her daughter, and analyzing more forensic evidence.   MORE.....

OOps , did they think LE would not search the old truck?

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/29/haleigh-search-yields-no-clues-just-crack/#more-2254

The only wrinkle: sources tell me police searching an empty truck on the property Friday found an undisclosed amount of crack and crack pipes—evidence seized by the Baker County Sheriff’s Department. One source told me the truck is believed to belong to Chad Griffis.

While the incident remains under investigation, sources close to the case tell me no charges have been filed against anyone yet. Calls to Chad, Crystal and Marie Griffis were not returned.

LOL Gramma, we are both doing the wow on that one huh?

and...a bit of this.... ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Do I recall reading about a truck that was left at a shop and it blonged to a Griffis and there were drugs found in it???

Somone jog my memory, please...and thank you!!!    ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, something about fighting to get the truck back. will see if I can find it.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5149.msg844743#msg844743

Possession – Cocaine and Marijuana with Intent to Sell

On June 12, Bradley Hall was assisted by the Baker County Sheriff’s Office in retrieving his 2001 Ford F250 truck that he said was being held without his permission.

Hall told police he had tried for two months to contact Jeremy Bruce Griffis, 28, about returning the vehicle.

According to reports, Hall found the truck at Griffis’ workplace on Kinghorn Road. Hall told police, when he finally got into his truck, he found a bag of marijuana seeds, a bag of cocaine, a set of scales and several plastic bags.

According to reports, a witness present confirmed the contraband was found in the truck.

Police took the drugs into evidence. The investigation is ongoing.

http://www.bcstandard.com/articles/2009/06/17/news/community/doc4a3935680b7c7711787645.txt

Possibly that she did not want any mail setting in the mailbox, and it may have been more convenient for her to pick it up at the post office.

Very possible that did not want her address known.

Thanks Searching   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyAngel::

You are very welcome.
Why is it so hard for Crystal supporters to even allow themselves to think it is possible she still has a drug problem and has surrounded herself once again with the drug community?
all of this coming out and I am seeing people post that they bet it was a setup? come on, so this other one was as well? I do not see someone sneaking over to the Griffis property and finding an old truck on the property to stash their crack and pipes in,just to set Crystal up. I am not buying it and think it is ridiculous. JMO

You are correct Grama!

Possession – Cocaine and Marijuana with Intent to Sell



On June 12, Bradley Hall was assisted by the Baker County Sheriff’s Office in retrieving his 2001 Ford F250 truck that he said was being held without his permission.

Hall told police he had tried for two months to contact Jeremy Bruce Griffis, 28, about returning the vehicle.

According to reports, Hall found the truck at Griffis’ workplace on Kinghorn Road. Hall told police, when he finally got into his truck, he found a bag of marijuana seeds, a bag of cocaine, a set of scales and several plastic bags.

According to reports, a witness present confirmed the contraband was found in the truck.

Police took the drugs into evidence. The investigation is ongoing.

http://www.bcstandard.com/articles/2009/06/17/news/community/doc4a3935680b7c7711787645.txt

Searching~O/T but I have been looking thru the prayer thread and your thread to get an update about your son.....how is he doing and is he getting any relief whatsoever? You and your family are in my prayers.

Hi Rose Red...we meet again...
welcome to the monkeys...
I have the same opinion as you do concerning ron...he is a butt at times perhaps, but he loves his baby girl and in my opinion did nothing directly to harm her and never would..Misty knows more and needs to speak up..
how come you got banned? bet I know!

Drugs are a way of life for many folks, I am not surprised that drugs and drug related items were found. Probably would be found in many residents across the country. Good Morning  ::MonkeyCool::

Thank you IM, He ended up in the ER and they  cathed him and did tests, sent him to a different specialist but ahh, the bi err my daughter in law got her dang boat instead  :smt093

agreed...my bet is that Crystal is still using...unless she went to a rehab, it is very hard to kick some of these drug habits...and as we all know from the news, even movie stars who go to the best rehabs have a relapse...it is a constant struggle from what I have heard...
maybe the Griffis/sheffields are going to get more than they bargained for in this search....

Ruby Kanger interview on the Sky 97.3 pm...
 ::MonkeyTongue::

http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/23699119/haleigh-cummings-case-ruby-kanger.htm

WTF?????? I swear you are a better person than me, it would be all I could do not to confront her and send her on a one way trip to Aruba (all expenses paid of course)

Love and respect for my son is why I have not told her in her language what I think of her. He begged me not to.I did confront her and it ended up had to leave their house before I blew a gasket. she has a mouth on her.

I am going to wait until the investigation is over on this.. I can't understand why Bradley didn't go to the police sooner and waited 2 months to go to the police..... ::MonkeyTongue::

Mornin' Beautiful Monkeys!  I have to come out of my corner for this one...crack and seizures go hand in hand.  Also, it only takes 3 days for cocaine to exit your system.  This is how one beats a drug screen if one knows ahead of time when it is scheduled!  Now we know the mysterious seizure answers.  Now your probably asking how do I know this stuff?  I was Med. Assist. at an OB/Gyn for 3 yrs. and it was my job among other things to do the drug screens on preg. women.  I had to stay updated on drugs/usage/effect on fetus, here it was done by classes through our local health dept.  Okay, they knew ahead of time about the search and LE said (probably)"don't worry, it'll be quick, just a once through",(IMO) and they just stuck their crack and pipes in an old truck not thinking it would be looked at.  True addicts aren't going to put the drug down long enough to stash it far away.   I'm bet they are glad they can 'afford' what they need and want.   

Searching, my thoughts and prayers are with your son and your family  ::MonkeyAngel::

My oldest son that lives in Pa has had issues with meth. It is a hard one to kick and he has put the family through he11. as a matter of fact,in one of his outbursts during the real bad times of his meth addiction, it was him that assaulted my other son and damaged his only kidney. Even the mention of attempted murder charges did not scare him straight. as soon as he was released, he had a meth charge on him. It is hard to watch a loved one go through that type of addiction and it can destroy a family. I feel for the children in these families,they are victims and will soak all that in and the cycle will not be broken. I wish someone would break the cycle there in that family.

Well the way that I look at it, if drugs is an issue on Ronald and Misty's side of this investigation, it should also be an issue on Crystal, Marie and the Griffis side as well.

This drug issue appears to go way back for some years on the maternal mother's side of the family.

No one has clean hands.

Possession – Cocaine and Marijuana with Intent to Sell
http://www.bcstandard.com/articles/2009/06/17/news/community/doc4a3935680b7c7711787645.txt

I'm very sorry searching for all your pains.  I've lost many friends to meth and I have seen the destruction it does to All around the addict.  It's a painful thing to say that ouside of rehab and recovery the best thing one could hope for is a long jail sentence.  At least you know where the loved one is and doing the best they can sober.  Good luck and my prayers to all affected.  And I do include Crystal, Chad, Ron and Misty.  I just want Haleigh home soon and returned to 'good' parents who care about her more than themselves.  Drug users are very self centered and the children see and know too much.

true Heart...no one has clean hands in either family..
this drug find will not go well for Crystal in the custody battle I would think...

yep...good and fair post there!

Couldn't agree more, and some people just can't overcome, no matter how hard they try.

Sorry everyone!  My latest post got stuck in Hearts reply.  I had already warned ya'll I was computer stupid!   ::MonkeyWink::

Like I said I am going to wait to see the out come the investigation..Waiting 2 months to report to the police about his truck brings red flags to me... Misty was the last to see Haleigh and all her inconsistancies have not been clear up yet let alone a timelime..

Time will tell!

true enough about Misty..however, Misty didn't have anything to do with drugs being found on the griffis/sheffields property or in the truck...jmo...that falls in the griffis/sheffields laps no matter how you look at it...imo...
maybe the guy had been trying nicely to get his truck back from this guy with no luck and was forced to go to the police on the matter? who knows with this bunch...

The griffis / sheffields knew for sometime a search was going to be done.... I will wait for the outcome from the investigation done by LE... ::MonkeyTongue::

O/T somewhat

Publishing of mug shots on newspaper websites stirs debate

But a number of journalism watchdogs, civil libertarians and ethicists aren't laughing.

It has been called everything from ''journalistic malpractice'' to ``ethically bankrupt.''

Newspapers, particularly those in Florida, have discovered that the public has a huge appetite for jail mug shots. In May, the booking blotter generated about 52 percent of the 45.2 million page views to The Palm Beach Post's websites. For some sites, those hits can translate into ad sales.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/southflorida/story/1117521.html

Me too Jersey  ::MonkeyTongue::  It looks like half the town if not more is into drugs, I don't understand the surprise of finding drugs anywhere around there.

true enough...

The guy who lived next door worked for the AC company which
services the house. I don't know if he was the one who was there
that night but he supposedly moved because of Ron.

Why did he move because of Ron?

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thanks JG...that is beautiful of Haleigh!! xxx

Because he saw Ron beat the crap out of Ron Jr. and Ron had called the police on him for a barking dog.

when did this happen??? do you have a link to any of this? just curious....did this happen before or after he fixed the A/c and after Haleigh disappeared? can we track when and where he moved to? if he is still in Satsuma, ron could still track him down if he wanted to...it is a small enough town...

BL~You're local aren't you??? I had no idea Ron beat Jr., I hope he called th police or DCF........Ron sure would hate living next to me as my St. Bernard barks like Cujo if you come in my yard, and wouldn't hesitate to take a bite out of anyone beating a child (Saints are very protective of children) mine bit a toy one time because when my son hit it, it bounced back and hit him in the face-Boxer Bob lasted all of 2 minutes.

Thanks, OMG

Good Morning. Read the latest update on the drugs found in the search on Art's site... go to bottom of article. The truck did not belong to any of the Griffis family, it belonged to a J. Watkins and was beside a trailer on the property. They were unable to locate Mr. Watkins. I assume since this is a hay farm, they had a hired hand who lived in that trailer. Art names his source as being a LEO, so I will believe this to be accurate.
Everybody can calm down now... the drugs didn't belong to Crystal, Chad, Marie or any of the Griffis family.

Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks TxLady..........thanks for your clearing things up as I am at work and hadn't had time to even look at the article, but what you stated about hired hands on the farm makes perfect sense.

Good morning everyone~~~

Is it just me or does anyone else have the extreme desire to choke-the-living-chicken out of Misty right about now????

So frustrated I think they're going to hear me screaming down in Florida pretty soon.

<big sigh>

something needs to be done that is for sure!!

We had previously discussed Jerry Santos witnessing Ron beat up Jr. on Christmas Day.  Is this the same one we are onto now...or is there another guy that also witnessed Ron beat Jr. up. 

Another one GramaMonkey

This is another guy

What was Arts intention with the inciting title of the article?
Why did Art make it a part of the title, when it has nothing to do with HaLeigh's case.

Haleigh Search Yields No Clues, Just Crack!

And then they have the nerve to complain, whine, and get hysterical about bloggers.

If they were not keeping HaLeigh's name out there, I would suggest to them to put a sock in it.

So there is two people that saw Ron hit Ron Jr, and was he slapping him the way he was trained to slap, or was it his version of slapping?

I don'y need a link, someone reliable told me and it happened before
Haleigh becoming missing.

yup i don't have a link but i wanna say it was a jeremy griffis and he had "borrowed" someones truck and would not return it so they called the cops and they repoed it for the guy and found it at the work place which was a chicken farm

Yes, he called the police
Ron tried to befriend him on the morning that Haleigh became
missing; asking him for his forgiveness.

Now that is interesting, very interesting.

if she was ducking some one it may have been something like she didn't want anyone to know where she actually lived (like official type people) seems strange to put your work address on the donation thing... maybe not tho could be nothing... also my cousin used to steal my aunts checks out of the mailbox so she needed a po box... that could be a possibility too

agreed Heart...they should not be printing misleading articles imo....