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Missing, Exploited and True Crime => Missing Found Safe => Topic started by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 12:56:28 PM



Title: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 12:56:28 PM
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2009/07/31/story_teenager.html?sid=102

After Nearly 2 Weeks, New Albany Teen Still Missing
Friday,  July 31, 2009 5:56 PM
Updated: Saturday,  August 1, 2009 2:59 PM
 
Print StoryE-mail StoryCOLUMBUS, Ohio — Police on Friday were still looking for information about a central Ohio teenager who vanished nearly two weeks ago.

Investigators said there is no evidence that Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16, is a victim of foul play, but they could not rule out that she is not in danger, 10TV's Maureen Kocot reported.

Bary, of New Albany, was last seen on July 19.

The teenager's cell phone has been turned off and her Facebook account deactivated, Kocot reported.

According to police, the girl's friends told detectives that it was possible she ran away because of conflicting religious beliefs in her home.

"If anybody is harboring her they are definitely in violation of at least one misdemeanor charge that I know of, and that's interference of custody," said Columbus police Sgt. Jerry Cupp.

Investigators said Bary is affiliated with two central Ohio churches: one on Cleveland Avenue and the other near the Ohio State University campus.

They also said Bary may have been seen near campus the night she disappeared.

Anyone with information about the case was asked to call Columbus police at 614-645-4545.

Watch 10TV News and refresh 10TV.com for additional information

Edit to change city


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 12:57:36 PM
Thanks lovin, I didn't know how to start a thread. I hope they find her SAFE, but I have a feeling she isn't. JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 01:00:51 PM
http://www.mcc.ag.state.oh.us/P2.aspx?PQID=FATHIM

MISSING CHILD
Endangered Runaway
FATHIMA RIFQA BARY
NICKNAME/ALIAS:
DOB:8/10/1992
SEX:Female
RACE:Asian
HEIGHT:5'2''
WEIGHT:90 lbs.
HAIR:Black, Long, Straight
EYES:Brown, Blind in right eye crystal blue in color
Last seen on 07-19-09 in Westerville, Ohio.

(http://www.mcc.ag.state.oh.us/EntityInfo/Photos/0199/99837/1_104290_1.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 01:06:06 PM
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198288.php

August 01, 2009
Girl Who Converts to Christianity Goes Missing in Ohio

I'm not sure I have all the fact in the Fathima Rifqa Bary case. Here's some of the info I've read and have been told about.

The 16 year old girl lives in a Muslim household, but recently made some professions that she was converting to Christianity.

She was last seen on July 19th. Her facebook account has been closed and her cell phone deactivated. Her friends are worried and claim this isn't like her.

There is a missing persons report out on her, so I'm assuming that it was the family that filed the report.

There may be nothing in this related to her recent alleged conversion to Christianity. She could be just a kid that ran away from home for the normal reasons that kids run away from home. Or worse, the victim of an abduction.

But as evidenced by the reports that saw fit to mention her recent trips to churches in her community, some of her friends are worried that her going missing has something to do with her recent conversion.

If nothing else, keep an eye out for her. Here's the missing persons report at the Ohio Attorney General's webpage.

Thanks to Cristi Li.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 01:21:44 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/fathima-rifqa-bary-i-hope-she-got-away.html

I pray that Fathima ran away and escaped this fate -- unlike Amina and Sarah who ran away and returned at the insistence of their mother, Tissie Said, only to be brutally murdered by their father Yaser Said. I hope Fathima got away, unlike Aqsa Parvez, who stayed with friends only to return home and get murdered by her father.

I pray she escaped Islam. The 16-year-old girl was converting to Christianity from Islam. She lived in a Muslim home.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 01:24:35 PM
There is a mosque in Columbus on Cleveland Ave.

http://www.assahaaba.com/

I am thinking that it was the Christian church she was attending near the OU campus.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 01:29:12 PM
Bary, of New Albany, was last seen on July 19.

Fathima is from New Albany, not Westerville.  That is where she was last seen.  Mod's please edit.  Sorry.  TIA, Lovinlife


Done. MB


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 01:46:28 PM
LOVIN', in the story printed above, it was say she may have been seen near the OU campus the night she came up missing. July 19 would have been a Sunday night.

 She may have been coming or going to a church service near the campus. Westerfield, Columbus, New Albany, all pretty much one big place. jmo


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 03, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
This isn't good...not good at all.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 01:56:08 PM
Why no pleas from the family? Wonder if she has a brother? Why aren't the police looking into the family and instead saying if someone is harboring her it is a misdomeanor?

WHY, because the press is so scared of offending Muslims. I pray to God and Jesus this girl is found safe.

She is 16 years old, has not used credit cards, facebook is deleted and cell phone is turned off.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 01:56:19 PM
LOVIN', in the story printed above, it was say she may have been seen near the OU campus the night she came up missing. July 19 would have been a Sunday night.

 She may have been coming or going to a church service near the campus. Westerfield, Columbus, New Albany, all pretty much one big place. jmo
Thanks Fanny, I don't know the area too well.  Haven't been there in years and when I was our excursions were limited to High Street.  :smt030 :drunken:


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 04, 2009, 08:55:31 AM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: Prayers for you Fathima.

Now JSM has a question... Why has her family not spoken up on tv or begged her to come home?


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 09:13:58 AM
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198288.php

August 01, 2009
Girl Who Converts to Christianity Goes Missing in Ohio

I'm not sure I have all the fact in the Fathima Rifqa Bary case. Here's some of the info I've read and have been told about.

The 16 year old girl lives in a Muslim household, but recently made some professions that she was converting to Christianity.

She was last seen on July 19th. Her facebook account has been closed and her cell phone deactivated. Her friends are worried and claim this isn't like her.

There is a missing persons report out on her, so I'm assuming that it was the family that filed the report.

There may be nothing in this related to her recent alleged conversion to Christianity. She could be just a kid that ran away from home for the normal reasons that kids run away from home. Or worse, the victim of an abduction.

But as evidenced by the reports that saw fit to mention her recent trips to churches in her community, some of her friends are worried that her going missing has something to do with her recent conversion.

If nothing else, keep an eye out for her. Here's the missing persons report at the Ohio Attorney General's webpage.

Thanks to Cristi Li.



There is a comment on this article that says her parents didn't file the missing person report until July 29th....she was last seen July 19th.  I tried to find the date to which the report was filed but couldn't.

To me, that would say alot if it took a 16 year old missing girls parents 10 days to file a report   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 04, 2009, 10:29:08 AM
Hardly anything at all in the news on this. She is listed here:
http://www.mcc.ag.state.oh.us/P1.aspx?NS=B&PN=1

Why isn't she listed here??
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=usMapSearch&missState=OH&searchLang=en_US

Where is the outrage??? GRILL THE PARENTS!


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 04, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
Hardly anything at all in the news on this. She is listed here:
http://www.mcc.ag.state.oh.us/P1.aspx?NS=B&PN=1

Why isn't she listed here??
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=usMapSearch&missState=OH&searchLang=en_US

Where is the outrage??? GRILL THE PARENTS!
Grill the parents, the uncles, the brothers if she has any. This is NOT good. This girl is NOT missing, she is dead.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from Westerville, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 04, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198288.php

August 01, 2009
Girl Who Converts to Christianity Goes Missing in Ohio

I'm not sure I have all the fact in the Fathima Rifqa Bary case. Here's some of the info I've read and have been told about.

The 16 year old girl lives in a Muslim household, but recently made some professions that she was converting to Christianity.

She was last seen on July 19th. Her facebook account has been closed and her cell phone deactivated. Her friends are worried and claim this isn't like her.

There is a missing persons report out on her, so I'm assuming that it was the family that filed the report.

There may be nothing in this related to her recent alleged conversion to Christianity. She could be just a kid that ran away from home for the normal reasons that kids run away from home. Or worse, the victim of an abduction.

But as evidenced by the reports that saw fit to mention her recent trips to churches in her community, some of her friends are worried that her going missing has something to do with her recent conversion.

If nothing else, keep an eye out for her. Here's the missing persons report at the Ohio Attorney General's webpage.

Thanks to Cristi Li.



There is a comment on this article that says her parents didn't file the missing person report until July 29th....she was last seen July 19th.  I tried to find the date to which the report was filed but couldn't.

To me, that would say alot if it took a 16 year old missing girls parents 10 days to file a report   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


If they didn't report her missing for 10 days, they killed her. Good Lord in Heaven, if the police in Ohio are like the police here, they are not even going to look into the family because they don't want to "offend" the family because of their religious beliefs.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 04, 2009, 11:33:10 AM
That's what I'm thinking JSM, they don't want to offend. They want to be PC.   The parents probably told the police that she ran away and that is that.  In the mean time there is a 16 year old young lady missing in Columbus, OH area.  A place where people go missing and are never found.

Brian Shaffer & Tony Luzio come to mind, but there are probably many, many more.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 04, 2009, 11:38:59 AM
That's what I'm thinking JSM, they don't want to offend. They want to be PC.   The parents probably told the police that she ran away and that is that.  In the mean time there is a 16 year old young lady missing in Columbus, OH area.  A place where people go missing and are never found.

Brian Shaffer & Tony Luzio come to mind, but there are probably many, many more.
I know they don't want to offend, but she is just a kid. She is not a runaway. Where would she go.

I hope to God she has run off and away from that evil religion that breeds intolerance, bigotry, hatred, murder. JMO JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 04, 2009, 10:03:42 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: JSM is sending up prayers to you Fathima Bary. JSM prays you are safe and with a family that will keep you from harm.  ::MonkeyAngel:: Good Night Fathima. JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 06, 2009, 09:42:03 AM
http://columbus.craigslist.org/vnn/1306524469.html

Fathima Rifqa Bary-Missing Child (Ohio State Campus)

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Date: 2009-08-04, 11:51PM EDT
Reply to: comm-paxz3-1306524469@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

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Please, anyone in the Greater Columbus Area, especially on Ohio State's campus keep a look out for 16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary. She has been missing since July 19th, and her parents did not report her as missing to the police until the 29th. She is a devout Christian as she recently converted, which is probably the cause for her running away, since her family is Muslim.

Here are some recent news briefs about her going missing:
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2009/07/31/story_teenager.html?sid=102
http://www2.nbc4i.com/cmh/news/local/article/cpd_searches_for_missing_girl/20163/

She has many friends on Ohio State's campus, and there is evidence that she could have gone there. Please keep an eye out and contact the Columbus Division of Police if you see her. Her identifying feature is her blind right eye, which behaves like a lazy eye, and is often covered by her hair.

Thank you, may she come home safely.



Location: Ohio State Campus
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
 
 

PostingID: 1306524469


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH(FOUND SAFE)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 05:46:21 PM
I called NCFMEC and asked why Fathima isn't listed on the website. She said she is in NCFMEC system, just hasn't been put on the website yet.

The lady said she would try and get her up there.







Edit:  "Found Safe" to subject line.  MB


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 06, 2009, 09:22:53 PM
I called NCFMEC and asked why Fathima isn't listed on the website. She said she is in NCFMEC system, just hasn't been put on the website yet.

The lady said she would try and get her up there.
Thank you LOVIN and PINK for the updates JSM's hinky meter is so up right now on this poor child.

Just one question, why is a 16 year old hanging around a University. TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 09:36:07 PM
JSM,

I am guessing since she goes to church near the campus, she has made friend's with some University students that attend the same church.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 07, 2009, 11:22:13 AM
The Ohio State University is a HUGE campus.  Currently the largest single-campus university in the US and the second largest employer in Columbus, 2nd to the State of Ohio itself. The campus itself is urban located just 2.5 miles from downtown Columbus (our state's capital). 

There is a huge Studen Christian Fellowship outreach program and I imagine this is how Fathima has contact with the University, JMO of course.  It is also very culturally diverse.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: pink angel on August 08, 2009, 06:03:56 AM
Missing Teen Found Safe In Fla.
Friday,  August 7, 2009 3:59 PM

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Nearly three weeks after she was reported missing, a 16-year-old girl was found safe in Florida, police said on Friday.

Fathima Rifqa Bary, of New Albany, was last seen on July 19, 10TV News reported.

According to police, Bary's friends told detectives that it was possible she ran away because of conflicting religious beliefs in her home.

Investigators said Bary is affiliated with two central Ohio churches: one on Cleveland Avenue and the other near the Ohio State University campus.

They also said Bary may have been seen near campus the night she disappeared.

Bary was found safe in Orlando, Fla. Arrangements were being made for her return to central Ohio.

Stay with 10TV News and 10TV.com for more information.

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2009/08/07/story_missing_teen.html?sid=102

YAY! Thank you god! What wonderful news.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Leroy on August 08, 2009, 12:10:07 PM
Yes it is wonderful news!!


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 08, 2009, 02:12:54 PM
I too, am happy she was found!   ::MonkeySlide::

I hope she doesn't face any retribution when she gets home, and her family welcomes her with open arms.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 08, 2009, 05:43:27 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer2::  ::MonkeyAngel:: Thank God she was found. Prayers were answered as I said a prayer for her today.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 08, 2009, 06:45:50 PM
I too, am happy she was found!   ::MonkeySlide::

I hope she doesn't face any retribution when she gets home, and her family welcomes her with open arms.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I wouldn't count on it  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 10, 2009, 05:17:52 PM
Teen who converted to Christianity, fearing for her life, ordered to DCF custody

An Ohio teen runaway, fearing for her life after her Muslim family learned about her conversion to Christianity, was ordered to state custody this afternoon in Orlando.

The girl, who turned 17 today, had been staying with Blake and Beverly Lorenz, pastors of Global Revolution Church in Orlando.

The girl met the Orlando family through a prayer group on Facebook. The Orlando Sentinel has not named the girl because of her age.

Earlier today, Beverly Lorenz told the Sentinel the teen hitchhiked to a Greyhound station in Ohio, where she took a bus to Orlando.

The girl borrowed someone's phone and called Lorenz, whom she had only spoken with one other time on the telephone.

The girl asked Lorenz if she could come to her house. Even though the girl was essentially a stranger, Lorenz said it was OK.

The teen, who is not a U.S. citizen, told Lorenz she was fearful of her family -- scared they would hurt or kill her, or send her to native Sri Lanka.

After the girl arrived in Orlando, Lorenz said they called an abuse hotline and started calling lawyers, asking what they should do.

"We have spent hours trying to figure out what do we do and how do we protect this girl within the law?" Lorenz said.

On Friday, an Orlando police officer arrived at the Lorenz family home and picked the teen up to be placed in custody with the Department of Children and Families, Lorenz said.

Today, the girl, her father, the Lorenz family, lawyers and a handful of spectators were back in court. It's a complicated case, and the jurisdictional issues are complex.

The petite teen, who looks more like a middle school student than a 17-year-old, appeared in a girl's size 10 white dress with her hair neatly pulled off her face with a headband. When she walked into the courtroom, the teen immediately bolted for Beverly Lorenz, who held her.

The teen then joined Blake Lorenz at a table with lawyers. Lorenz comforted her throughout the entire hearing with his arm around her shoulder.

The 17-year-old, who sat quietly with her head down during the proceeding, looked more like a frightened child than a teen independent enough to travel across the country on a bus.

A lawyer representing the teen's dad said the girl could be placed into child-protection services in Ohio. The father objects to the teen staying with the Lorenz family.

The girl's father, who lives in Franklin County, Ohio, sat a table with a lawyer, but said little. The girl's mother phoned-in and had a court-appointed lawyer in the courtroom.

Rosa Gonzalez, an attorney with the Alliance Defense Fund, told Orange Circuit Judge Gail A. Adams the teen is in fear for her life.

The sight of her father makes the teen "frantic and hysterical," Gonzalez said.

The judge said the teen is to remain in DCF custody and set another hearing Aug. 21.

After the hearing, Gonzalez said her organization, which sends pro bono lawyers to work on cases involving Christian issues, is concerned the teen could be returned to her Muslim parents.

"We don't take those threats lightly," she said.

In a statement earlier today, a DCF spokeswoman said the agency is working with Ohio officials to ensure the teen's "safety and well being."

"We are working with law enforcement and Franklin County Children Services, as the child and family reside in Ohio," she said. "We will continue to work with the Court and Franklin County Children Services to ensure the child's safety and well being."

After the hearing Blake Lorenz said the teen believes her dad will kill her.

"We are doing everything we can to protect her," he said.

Lorenz said he is relieved she is not returning back to her family in Ohio immediately, but he's still cautious. He's "very concerned that the system will let her down."

Attempts to talk to the teen after this afternoon's hearing were unsuccessful -- her guardians ushered her out of the building without letting her speak to a Sentinel reporter.

On a baby sitter Web site, the girl describes herself this way:

"One of my favorite things to do in my spare time is cheerleading for my high school and of course tumbling as well. I have a little brother who is about to turn 5 years old. With this, I have had a lot of experience with toddlers and many years of sitting for him."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-ohio-teen-convert-custody-dispute-081009,0,4993216.story


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Lovinlife on August 10, 2009, 10:17:58 PM
I am so glad they found Fathima safe: scared I bet, but safe.  And bless the Lorenz family for STANDING UP and fighting to keep Fathima safe & taking her in without question.  Now, if family services can just do the right thing...


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 11, 2009, 11:03:03 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20355466/detail.html
Religious Runaway Granted Foster Family
Fathima Bary, 17, Boards Bus To Central Florida

POSTED: 8:11 am EDT August 11, 2009
UPDATED: 9:18 am EDT August 11, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teenager who came to Orlando in search of religious freedom said she could die if she is sent home.

Fathima Bary, 17, ran away from home in July after her Muslim parents found out she converted to Christianity.

Bary, a native of Sri Lanka, said she feared for her life, so she boarded a bus to Central Florida to find an Orlando family she met through a prayer group on Facebook.

A pastor took in the teenager and reached out to the state for help. A judge granted the Department of Children and Families custody to keep Bary in temporary foster care.

"Just keep her in your prayers. Keep her protected, and really believe they'll make a decision to keep her here and not send her back to Ohio, that they'll understand her life will be taken if she goes back," Global Revolution Church Rev. Blake Lorenz said.

Another custody hearing is slated for Aug. 21.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: sleddogs on August 11, 2009, 11:41:01 PM
This is a must see video of Fathima Rifqa Bary


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0P5IaIE_LI



Sounds like she is in mortal danger.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: sleddogs on August 11, 2009, 11:50:40 PM
Hopefully this girl can be protected



Help was too late for sisters Amina and Sarah Said

Muslim Father Kills Two Daughters in the USA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=favzluXtznM&NR=1


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: sleddogs on August 11, 2009, 11:54:15 PM

More Honor Killings In The West, Yet No Outrage?
by  Pamela Geller
07/27/2009


“The struggle for women’s equality continues in many aspects of American life,” said Barack Obama in Cairo in June, “and in countries around the world.” Too bad Obama wasn’t speaking about Islam.

There have been three separate incidents of honor killing in the past week: seven women are dead in Canada, and one in Germany. All were Muslims. The world in the West is changing for women. This war being waged in our society by Islam is about women -- it’s about power, it’s about control.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32869


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 12, 2009, 03:42:52 PM
http://www.wesh.com/index.html
Police Question Story About Runaway Who Converted
Girl Said Her Muslim Father Said He Would Kill Her

POSTED: 2:36 pm EDT August 12, 2009
UPDATED: 2:47 pm EDT August 12, 2009
(http://www.wesh.com/2009/0811/20355566_240X180.jpg)
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A police detective is questioning the claim of an Ohio teenager who says she ran away to Orlando fearing for her life because she converted from Islam to Christianity.

Sgt. Jerry Cupp, head of the Columbus Police Department's missing persons' bureau, said the girl's father seems genuinely concerned and worried about his 17-year-old daughter, Fathima Bary.
Pastor Blake Lorenz from Global Revolution Church of Orlando opened his home to Fathima after he told her that her Muslim parents found out she had converted to Christianity four years ago. She says her father threatened to kill her when he uncovered her secret.

"He literally took a computer and said he was going to beat her with it and said, 'If you will follow Jesus, you're not my daughter. I will have you killed; I will kill you,' " Lorenz told WESH 2 News.

Cupp said Wednesday that police tracked the teen from Columbus to Orlando after interviewing a minister from Kansas City who had been in touch with the girl.
An Orlando judge on Monday ordered the girl into the custody of the Florida Department of Children and Families until a hearing next week.

The teenager, who is not a U.S. citizen, says she fears her family would hurt her, kill her or send her back to her native Sri Lanka.

Fathima boarded a bus for Florida to meet the prayer group she found on Facebook.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
I wonder what happened that LE is now questioning her story?


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 12, 2009, 08:27:19 PM
I wonder what happened that LE is now questioning her story?
No Rose, I don't know why LE is questioning her story. If she did convert, the Koran/Quran says that apostates must be given the chance to go back to Islam and if not they should be killed. I can get you the verses if you want me to.

It could be that she was being abused at home, as is often the case. Unfortunately I believe she will be sent back home to either be abused or be murdered. JMO JSM  ::MonkeyAngel:: I pray she is safe forever.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 08:44:53 PM
I wonder what happened that LE is now questioning her story?
No Rose, I don't know why LE is questioning her story. If she did convert, the Koran/Quran says that apostates must be given the chance to go back to Islam and if not they should be killed. I can get you the verses if you want me to.

It could be that she was being abused at home, as is often the case. Unfortunately I believe she will be sent back home to either be abused or be murdered. JMO JSM  ::MonkeyAngel:: I pray she is safe forever.
  ::MonkeyEek:: Well lets hope she isn't sent home.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: pink angel on August 12, 2009, 08:57:29 PM
Father Denies Threatening Daughter Over Religious Conversion
Wednesday,  August 12, 2009 6:08 PM
Updated: Wednesday,  August 12, 2009 6:54 PM

NEW ALBANY, Ohio — A father denied accusations Wednesday that he threatened to kill his teenage daughter because she converted to Christianity.

Rifqa Bary, 17, is in protective custody in Florida and has refused to return home after making the allegations that her father, a Muslim, would kill her, 10TV's Cara Connelly reported.

Her father, Mohamed Bary, said those claims were not true.

"Not at all," he said. "It is completely false. Honestly, it is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel that she has been coached to say these things."

He said his daughter is being coached by Pastor Blake Lorenz, who leads Global Revolution Church in Orlando.

Rifqa said she met Lorenz over Facebook and ran to him and his wife for help. She has since expressed her desire to stay with the family, telling reporters in Florida that she believes her father would kill her.

"If they love God more than me then they have to kill me," Rifqa said.

Family members said they would never harm Rifqa. Her older brother, Rilyan, said the accusations of violence came up only after his sister met Lorenz.

"You also saw in the video someone is patting her on the back and saying good job," Rilyan said. "She's definitely been told what to doIt's not even her. She's not even making eye contact in the video. What does that tell you?"

A judge in Florida has ruled that Rifqa be placed with Children Services.

She is allowed supervised visits with Lorenz and her father.

Lorenz did not return 10TV's phone calls seeking comment on Wednesday, Connelly reported.
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2009/08/12/story_bary.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=102
video
http://columbusdispatch.a.mms.mavenapps.net/mms/rt/1/site/columbusdispatch-x10tv-pub01-live/current/launch.html?playerId=10tvmain&referralPlaylistId=e07aeec746ba418844f894bd897902c46281ff98&referralParentPlaylistId=20a712fba28b4c9da4e8b8c091297a019f5a7f06&referralObject=8130515&referrer=copylink



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 12, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
I wonder what happened that LE is now questioning her story?
No Rose, I don't know why LE is questioning her story. If she did convert, the Koran/Quran says that apostates must be given the chance to go back to Islam and if not they should be killed. I can get you the verses if you want me to.

It could be that she was being abused at home, as is often the case. Unfortunately I believe she will be sent back home to either be abused or be murdered. JMO JSM  ::MonkeyAngel:: I pray she is safe forever.
  ::MonkeyEek:: Well lets hope she isn't sent home.
I hope she isn't sent home, but she will be.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 12, 2009, 09:37:47 PM
Father Denies Threatening Daughter Over Religious Conversion
Wednesday,  August 12, 2009 6:08 PM
Updated: Wednesday,  August 12, 2009 6:54 PM

NEW ALBANY, Ohio — A father denied accusations Wednesday that he threatened to kill his teenage daughter because she converted to Christianity.

Rifqa Bary, 17, is in protective custody in Florida and has refused to return home after making the allegations that her father, a Muslim, would kill her, 10TV's Cara Connelly reported.

Her father, Mohamed Bary, said those claims were not true.

"Not at all," he said. "It is completely false. Honestly, it is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel that she has been coached to say these things."

He said his daughter is being coached by Pastor Blake Lorenz, who leads Global Revolution Church in Orlando.

Rifqa said she met Lorenz over Facebook and ran to him and his wife for help. She has since expressed her desire to stay with the family, telling reporters in Florida that she believes her father would kill her.

"If they love God more than me then they have to kill me," Rifqa said.

Family members said they would never harm Rifqa. Her older brother, Rilyan, said the accusations of violence came up only after his sister met Lorenz.

"You also saw in the video someone is patting her on the back and saying good job," Rilyan said. "She's definitely been told what to doIt's not even her. She's not even making eye contact in the video. What does that tell you?"

A judge in Florida has ruled that Rifqa be placed with Children Services.

She is allowed supervised visits with Lorenz and her father.

Lorenz did not return 10TV's phone calls seeking comment on Wednesday, Connelly reported.
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2009/08/12/story_bary.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=102
video
http://columbusdispatch.a.mms.mavenapps.net/mms/rt/1/site/columbusdispatch-x10tv-pub01-live/current/launch.html?playerId=10tvmain&referralPlaylistId=e07aeec746ba418844f894bd897902c46281ff98&referralParentPlaylistId=20a712fba28b4c9da4e8b8c091297a019f5a7f06&referralObject=8130515&referrer=copylink


Oh how I wish I could snip things on here. What I bolded in red is what I am gonna comment on...

Islam Said said Sarah and Amina were not killed by their father. WTH ever. I don't trust the brother, the father, the mother, the aunts, the uncles or the neighbors to look after this little girl.

So Fathima was being patted on the back, good for the guy that was patting her on the back.

I drive by every day a place where two beautiful girls were killed because their dad decided to end their lives and he was helped by someone to get away quickly. Neighbor, Son, Mother, IDK. All I can say is good for the judge to look into this further. Too bad Sarah and Amina didn't have that chance. JMO JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2009, 01:57:48 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20384622/detail.html
Father Of Runaway Says Daughter Kidnapped By Cult
Fathima Bary Says Father Threatened Her After Christian Conversion

POSTED: 11:45 am EDT August 13, 2009
UPDATED: 12:45 pm EDT August 13, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The father of a teenager who ran away to Florida to escape what she said was religious persecution said his daughter is the victim of a cult.

Fathima Bary, 17, left her home in Ohio and went to Central Florida to join a Christian group she met on Facebook. Bary, who is not a U.S. citizen, said she fears her family would hurt her, kill her or send her back to her native Sri Lanka because she converted to Christianity several years ago. A pastor took in the teenager and a judge granted the Department of Children and Families custody to keep her in temporary foster care.
Fathima's father, however, said her story is not true.

"My opinion is this, this is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away, and I expect that this should not happen to any other child," he said. "That's all I can tell you."

An Ohio police detective is also questioning the girl's story. Sgt. Jerry Cupp, head of the Columbus Police Department's missing persons' bureau, said the girl's father seems genuinely concerned and worried about his daughter.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2009, 03:23:09 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-runaway-convert-parents-081309,0,1973121.story
Runaway convert: Runaway teen convert's parents say they made no threats
The Muslim parents of an Ohio teen runaway who converted to Christianity did not threaten her, their lawyer said today.

Amy L. Edwards and Rene Stutzman Sentinel Staff Writers

2:57 p.m. EDT, August 13, 2009

The parents of an Ohio teen runaway who feared her Muslim family would harm her because of her religious conversion said they never threatened the girl, the family's court-appointed lawyer said today.

"They love their daughter," said Orlando attorney Craig McCarthy.

"They didn't do or say anything that would give her a reasonable fear that her dad was going to kill her."

The girl, who turned 17 on Monday, is at the center of a custody dispute in Orlando, where she sought help from a pastor and his wife several weeks ago.

The Orlando Sentinel is not identifying the teen because of her age.

Earlier this week, an Orange County Circuit Court Judge ordered the teen into the custody of the Department of Children and Families. The court has to resolve jurisdictional issues in her case, and another hearing is scheduled for next week.

The girl had been staying in Orlando with Blake and Beverly Lorenz, pastors of Global Revolution Church.
The Lorenz family appeared in court earlier this week with the girl, as did the teen's father. The girl, who seemed frail and frightened, clutched Blake Lorenz throughout the proceeding.

Earlier this week, the family said they met the girl through a prayer group on Facebook. They said the teen was essentially a stranger until she showed up in Orlando asking if she could come to their house.

The Lorenzes said the girl fears her family will harm or kill her because they learned she became a Christian.

McCarthy was appointed to represent the girl's mother, and spoke Thursday on behalf of both parents.

He said the family has yet to speak to their daughter -- who didn't want to talk to them during Monday's public hearing.

"They're really just sort of feeling like they don't know what's going on," he said. "They're just reeling."

McCarthy said the parents reported the teen missing immediately and didn't know where she was for weeks. The next time they saw the teen, she was in Orange County court clutching Blake Lorenz.

McCarthy also said the girl didn't tell anyone she was frightened while living with her parents.

Meanwhile, in Ohio, Eric Fenner, executive director of Franklin County Child Services, said Thursday that family members, in Columbus seem to be reasonable people, worried about a daughter who ran away three weeks ago and wound up with a family none of them knew.

His employees have talked to them, and his agency is ready to help re-unify the family, should the Florida judge send the child back to Ohio.

"The family has been very cooperative, appropriately concerned, as you can imagine. Their daughter has run away from home. She had changed from their religion to Christianity, but the family has expressed an interest in trying to work these things through," he said.

One of the biggest problems right now, he said, is that Florida authorities appear to be listening to the teenager but not her parents. That needs to change, he said.
If the girl were returned to Ohio and a judge determined it was safe to send her home, he said he would work to mend the rift in the family.

"I think what's best for this family is we provide assistance with a family therapist who can work to remediate those concerns and see if this family can be salvaged," Fenner said.

He added, "I've been in child welfare for 30 years. This is the very first case like this."


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 03:42:02 PM
Is it at all possible that both sides are at fault here and Fathima is caught in the middle? Some threats from the family and this Global Revolution Church brainwashing?


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 13, 2009, 06:53:06 PM
Is it at all possible that both sides are at fault here and Fathima is caught in the middle? Some threats from the family and this Global Revolution Church brainwashing?
It could be possible this church is brainwashing her, but I don't trust this girls immediate or extended family.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: pink angel on August 13, 2009, 07:08:01 PM
Is it at all possible that both sides are at fault here and Fathima is caught in the middle? Some threats from the family and this Global Revolution Church brainwashing?

I think it's quite possible. If this church had concerns for her, they should not have took her in, they would have called LE when she showed up on their doorstep. That they didn't, causes me concern. She was a minor and a "runaway". Running away is illegal and they were harboring her.

It would be interesting to see any messages/emails they exchanged. Did they encourage her to flee?


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2009, 08:21:20 AM
http://www.wesh.com/index.html
Dad Says Runaway Daughter Is Brainwashed By Cult
Fathima Bary Says She Ran Away To Orlando To Escape Father

POSTED: 11:51 pm EDT August 13, 2009
UPDATED: 7:40 am EDT August 14, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teenager said she ran to Orlando to save her life, but her father said she's being brainwashed by a cult.

The 17-year-old girl said it's a case of life or death, but the decision may not be hers to make.

Fathima Bary converted to Christianity and said her Muslim father threatened to kill her for dishonoring the family. Her father is on the defense, while the Islamic Society of Central Florida said its faith doesn't condone murder and wonders if the religious runaway is nothing more than a troubled teen.

"It's completely false," said father Mohamed Bary. "Honestly, it's not my daughter who is speaking."

Mohamed Bary said he denies he ever threatened to kill his 17-year-old daughter for turning her back on the family's Muslim faith by becoming a Christian. He said he believes the Ohio girl fled to Florida last month after being brainwashed by the pastor of Global Revolution Church of Orlando, who she met on Facebook.

"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary said.
The Rev. Blake Lorenz spoke with WESH 2 News earlier this week.

"She's just afraid for life," he said.

He's now out of the country on vacation, but by phone he said he didn't coerce Fathima Bary to change faiths.

"She has been a Christian for four years, long before we ever met her," he said.

Fathima Bary is in protective custody in Central Florida, but Lorenz said he believes she won't be safe if the court returns the religious runaway to her family. He said former Muslim followers call it an "honor killing."

"It says if you leave the Muslim faith and don't come back within a couple days you are to be killed," Lorenz said. "They showed me that in the Koran."

"There's no such thing as honor killing in the Koran," said Islamic Society of Central Florida President Imam Muhammad Musri.

Musri said, like Christians, Muslims believe killing someone is murder. He said, while there are extremists in every religion, he hopes Fathima Bary isn't hiding behind faith to find freedom.

"Is she a rebel teenager running away from home, or is she really in danger?" Musri said.
That's the question that the Department of Children and Families is asking. There's another custody hearing for Fathima Bary next Friday.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2009, 08:22:09 AM
JSM,I posted in Fathima's thread.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 14, 2009, 01:43:30 PM
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198429.php-This is part of the article....

Don't take my word for it. Here's what Islam Q&A has to say on the matter:

Why should a person who disbelieves after becoming Muslim be executed? The punishment for the apostate is execution. Why such harshness?.
Praise be to Allaah.

The punishment for apostasy from the religion of Islam is execution. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever”

[al-Baqarah 2:217]

And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever changes his religion, execute him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh. What this hadeeth means is that whoever leaves Islam and changes to another religion and persists in that and does not repent, is to be executed. It was also proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a person who bears witness that there is no god but Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah except in three cases: a life for a life, a previously-married person who commits adultery, and one who leaves Islam and forsakes the jamaa’ah.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim.


It would certainly be interesting if her attorneys would raise the issue of Islamic law in her trial. Put the imam on the stand and question him about this well-established area of Islamic law. And watch him squirm.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2009, 01:50:03 PM
JSM,I worry for this girl.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 01:50:41 PM
Well, that is really scary, I wasn't aware of this or at least to this extent  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 14, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
Well, that is really scary, I wasn't aware of this or at least to this extent  ::MonkeyEek::
Very Scary for this girl and thousands like them. I was trying not to get into the aspects of the religion, but that quote came straight out of an Islamic Q&A website. Read up on it No Rose. JMO JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: pink angel on August 17, 2009, 02:57:41 PM
Dad Claims Brainwashing As Muslim Girl Fears He’ll Kill Her

Monday, August 17, 2009 12:24 PM

By: Pamela Geller

Rifqa Bary says she ran to Florida to save her life: “I was threatened by my dad.” She says that her father told her, “If you have this Jesus in your heart, you’re dead to me. You’re not my daughter. I will kill you.” But now her father is trying to regain custody of Rifqa, and he and the Islamic Society of Central Florida say she has been “kidnapped” and “brainwashed” by a “cult,” and that she’s a “rebel,” a “troubled teen.”

Well, which is it?

“This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away,” claims Mohamed Bary, Rifqa’s father.

She hitchhiked to the bus station and took a Greyhound from Ohio to Florida. How is that a kidnapping?

Brainwashed by a cult? Which is the cult? Is it the group that silently approves of the murder of a daughter who shames her family by not wearing the proper head dress (like Aqsa Parvez), or by wanting live a free life (like Hatin Sürücü), or by dating the wrong boy (like Amina and Sarah Said), or by choosing another religion (like Rifqa Bary)? Or is it the group that offers sanctuary to a poor threatened girl?

Rifqa Bary’s father is also claiming that she was “brainwashed” by the pastor of the Global Revolution church in Orlando. Pastor Blake Lorenz denies that, saying, “she has been a Christian for four years, long before we ever met her.”

Let’s look at the facts.

Rifqa’s MySpace page, to which she last logged in two years ago, shows that she had already converted by then. Rifqa told Lorenz she converted four years ago; her MySpace page is evidence that she was a Christian at least by 2007.

There is more evidence on that same MySpace page. Rifqa chose a “Christian layout” and says that her favorite movie was “A Walk to Remember” — a good Christian flick. The movie is about a pastor’s daughter, a good Christian girl who changes the life of a popular but rebellious teenage boy through her indomitable spirit, purity, and goodness. Reviewer Jeffrey Overstreet said in Christianity Today: “The main character is portrayed as a Christian without being psychopathic or holier-than-thou.”

Further, under Rifqa’s favorite book, there is a small icon of a page from the Bible. The passage highlighted? Love is patient. Notice how it’s all done cryptically, as if she is hiding. “My Savior is JC,” she writes — JC, of course, is Jesus Christ. The movie is a Christian movie. The book is the Bible. And Rifqa wrote all this in 2007.

In contrast, Islamic Society of Central Florida President Imam Muhammad Musri charges that Rifqa is “nothing more than a troubled teen” and a “rebel teenager running away from home.”

The Pakistan Daily carries even worse charges: “The family maintains that the girl was into drugs, promiscuous behaviour and raunchy messages on Facebook. She was discussing sex with multiple older married men. When the parents tried to control her behaviour she refused to do so. On her return to the home she conjured up a story of conversion to Christianity.”

Again, let’s look at the hard facts. When I first ran the story of a missing teen in Ohio at my Atlas Shrugs Web site on Aug. 3, Rifqa was feared dead. One news report said that “according to police, the girl’s friends told detectives that it was possible she ran away because of conflicting religious beliefs in her home.” The gibes with a message that was left on the Counter Jihad blog by someone saying she was a friend of Rifqa: “I know that her dad is a threat to her, because I am friends with her and have heard her talk about it. In addition, when she took off and ran, I was one of the last people to talk to her via cell phone and as a result her dad started obsessively calling me and being very harsh and threatening towards me, while demanding that I tell him where she went to.”

No one who knows Rifqa has come forth with any stories of drug abuse or promiscuity.

That makes it likely that all of this “troubled teen” propaganda is a yarn spun (taqiya) to con the authorities into sending this girl back to a dangerous and deadly situation. Rifqa is not only in jeopardy from her father and other family members but from all devout Muslims, for she committed the worst of all sins, apostasy. And she broke the code of silence.

Musri said, according to WESH, that “he hopes Fathima Bary isn’t hiding behind faith to find freedom.”

“Hiding behind faith to find freedom”? A very telling quote, is it not?

There is another custody hearing for Fathima Bary next Friday. The family that is accusing her of lying and saying “she is free to practice her Christianity” is a devout Muslim family, and Islam calls for death for those who leave Islam. It was the members of the family’s mosque who alerted Rifqa’s father of her conversion to Christianity — the devout family’s mosque ratted Rifqa out. How can this girl be safe if she is forced to return to her family now?

http://www.newsmax.com/pamela_geller/muslin_christianity_bary/2009/08/17/248719.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 17, 2009, 06:32:07 PM
PINK Thanks for posting Pamela's post. I was going to do it today when I got home. Have you seen the video on her website? I was going to post it here, but wasn't sure if anyone would be interested. TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 17, 2009, 06:36:04 PM
Some more info here.
Dad Claims Brainwashing As Muslim Girl Fears He’ll Kill Her Newsmax, plus video

Rifqa Bary is not only in jeopardy from her father and other family members but from all devout Muslims, for in converting to Christianity, she committed the worst of all sins, apostasy. And she broke the code of silence (whole article here).

I will be on the Young Gun Conservative Radio show tonight at 7pm. They will be  interviewing Rifka Bary's parents' lawyer. I will provide the counterpoint. Listen live at 7pm (click on YGC Radio at the top of the page on the right).


http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/pamela-geller-newsmax-rifqa-bary-.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 17, 2009, 06:38:15 PM
Pamela Geller on Fathima. Watch this Monkeys. Pam ROCKS!

http://www.youtube.com/v/qFLakCMM8Wo&hl=en&fs=1


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 20, 2009, 09:11:06 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-convert-runaway-dcf-081920,0,391042.story
DCF report: Pastor's family may have helped teen convert run away to Orlando
 Amy L. Edwards  Sentinel Staff Writer

4:45 p.m. EDT, August 19, 2009
Did the Orlando pastors who sheltered an Ohio teen convert who feared her Muslim family help the girl run away to Florida?

A Department of Children and Families document just obtained by the Orlando Sentinel indicates there's a possibility.

A hand-written note on a caregiver home study conducted on Blake and Beverly Lorenz, pastors of Global Revolution Church, said an initial DCF study was approved "prior to being informed that the pastor's family was involved with possibly helping the child run away from Ohio."

"As of 8/10/2009 -- This home study is NOT approved as the Lorenz' are not appropriate placement," the document said.

On Aug. 10, an Orange County judge ordered 17-year-old Fathima Rifqa Bary into DCF custody until social workers can figure out where she belongs and if her Columbus, Ohio, home will be safe.

Bary had been living with the Lorenz family, whom she met through a prayer group on Facebook.

The Lorenz family has not returned phone messages left on their cell phones and at their church this week. Someone associated with the case told the Sentinel the couple is out of the country.

Last week, the Lorenzes said Bary was essentially a stranger when she showed up in Orlando and asked if she could come to their house.

She feared her father would kill her, Blake Lorenz said.

Beverly Lorenz said they didn't initially realize Bary was reported missing from her home state. They eventually called an abuse hotline, which prompted law-enforcement and DCF involvement.

But Rifqa's father said he never threatened to kill the teen.
Mohamed Bary said Rifqa had a falling out with her mother the night before she disappeared – she reportedly took a Greyhound bus from Ohio to Orlando.

Rifqa had gone out without permission, and when she came home, her mother scolded her and told her that because of her behavior, the whole family might have to return to their native Sri Lanka, Mohamed Bary said.

Bary said his wife was upset and there were no plans to leave the U.S., he said.

On Friday, an Orange County judge will hear jurisdictional issues in the case.

On the DCF home study report obtained by the Sentinel, a case worker originally recommended Rifqa's placement at the Lorenz home. The Lorenzes do not have a criminal history or sex abuse issues that would present a risk of harm, the report said.

"Child observed to be happy and comfortable with caregivers. Child requested placement with caregivers," the report said.

"Child has been residing with church family for 2 weeks," the case worker wrote. "Child requested assistance based on prayer circle. Child has known ministry through face book [sic]. Child desires to be place with pastor as she will feel safer with them."

Amy L. Edwards can be reached at aledwards@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5735.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 20, 2009, 09:29:09 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-convert-runaway-dcf-081920,0,391042.story
DCF report: Pastor's family may have helped teen convert run away to Orlando
 Amy L. Edwards  Sentinel Staff Writer

4:45 p.m. EDT, August 19, 2009
Did the Orlando pastors who sheltered an Ohio teen convert who feared her Muslim family help the girl run away to Florida?

A Department of Children and Families document just obtained by the Orlando Sentinel indicates there's a possibility.

A hand-written note on a caregiver home study conducted on Blake and Beverly Lorenz, pastors of Global Revolution Church, said an initial DCF study was approved "prior to being informed that the pastor's family was involved with possibly helping the child run away from Ohio."

"As of 8/10/2009 -- This home study is NOT approved as the Lorenz' are not appropriate placement," the document said.

On Aug. 10, an Orange County judge ordered 17-year-old Fathima Rifqa Bary into DCF custody until social workers can figure out where she belongs and if her Columbus, Ohio, home will be safe.

Bary had been living with the Lorenz family, whom she met through a prayer group on Facebook.

The Lorenz family has not returned phone messages left on their cell phones and at their church this week. Someone associated with the case told the Sentinel the couple is out of the country.

Last week, the Lorenzes said Bary was essentially a stranger when she showed up in Orlando and asked if she could come to their house.

She feared her father would kill her, Blake Lorenz said.

Beverly Lorenz said they didn't initially realize Bary was reported missing from her home state. They eventually called an abuse hotline, which prompted law-enforcement and DCF involvement.

But Rifqa's father said he never threatened to kill the teen.
Mohamed Bary said Rifqa had a falling out with her mother the night before she disappeared – she reportedly took a Greyhound bus from Ohio to Orlando.

Rifqa had gone out without permission, and when she came home, her mother scolded her and told her that because of her behavior, the whole family might have to return to their native Sri Lanka, Mohamed Bary said.

Bary said his wife was upset and there were no plans to leave the U.S., he said.

On Friday, an Orange County judge will hear jurisdictional issues in the case.

On the DCF home study report obtained by the Sentinel, a case worker originally recommended Rifqa's placement at the Lorenz home. The Lorenzes do not have a criminal history or sex abuse issues that would present a risk of harm, the report said.

"Child observed to be happy and comfortable with caregivers. Child requested placement with caregivers," the report said.

"Child has been residing with church family for 2 weeks," the case worker wrote. "Child requested assistance based on prayer circle. Child has known ministry through face book [sic]. Child desires to be place with pastor as she will feel safer with them."

Amy L. Edwards can be reached at aledwards@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5735.
You know Trimm, she just doesn't need to go back to her family. Let her go into a foster home if they don't want her with the Lorenz, she needs to be a ward of the state of Florida until she reaches legal age or becomes an emancipated minor. If she is a ward of the state in a foster home she will get goverment assistance, if she is an emancipated minor she won't get any benefits. I still don't think she has been brainwashed by these people though. I think they were just trying to help her. JMO JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 20, 2009, 09:40:01 AM
Trimm, this is what I am worried about happening if she goes home to her parents.

Teenager 'honour killing' girl made dramatic plea for help before she died


Shafilea Ahmed claimed that she was regularly beaten by her parents
A Muslim teenager made a dramatic plea to be saved from her abusive parents a few months before she died in what police believe was an "honour killing".


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-507020/Teenager-honour-killing-girl-dramatic-plea-help-died.html#ixzz0OjJSbJnV



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: sleddogs on August 20, 2009, 06:18:11 PM
FAITH UNDER FIRE
Christian girl begs Florida: Don't let them kill me!
Judge decides fate of honor student, cheerleader who fled Muslim parents' wrath
Posted: August 20, 2009
1:36 pm Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=107483

A young Christian runaway in custody of child protective services awaits her hearing tomorrow when Florida authorities will decide whether she will be forced to return to her Muslim parents – whom she says will kill her for converting to Christianity.

Fathima Rifqa Bary, 17, an honor student and cheerleader, was raised in a Muslim family in Columbus, Ohio. She became a Christian four years ago as a result of her interactions with children at school.

Atlas Shrugs' Pamela Geller has followed Bary's case closely, reporting that the girl's friends accompanied her to the school counselor after they noticed bruises covering her arms and legs that allegedly resulted from beatings by her father and brother.

"The middle school, in a serious dereliction of duty, did not report these beatings to child welfare services," Geller reported. "Beatings were random, violent, unprovoked. Take, for example, when Rifqa and her father Mohamed were driving in the car. He would force her to wear the hijab (head covering), which she hated. In her discomfort she would slouch down, embarrassed, and her father would haul off and sock her in the face so that she never forgot to sit up straight in her costume. The beatings were regular and so much a part of the landscape of Rifqa's life, she became inured to them …"

Bary, a native of Sri Lanka, hitchhiked to a bus station and ran away from home on July 19 because she says her family will murder her in what is known as an honor killing. In Islamic tradition, an honor killing is the customary slaughter of a person who is believed to have brought dishonor upon his or her family.

The Christian teen turned to pastors Blake and Beverly Lorenz of Global Revolution Church in Orlando, Fla., whom she met through Facebook. She is now in state custody in Florida where a judge will decide Friday whether her case will be heard in Florida or in Ohio. Her jurisdiction hearing is now scheduled for 3:15 p.m. EST in Orlando's juvenile court.

Fox News reported that legal experts have said she will almost certainly be forced to return to her parents' home in Ohio where she will be forced to live with her parents since Ohio does not have an emancipation statute. According to the report, Florida has such a statute, but it requires parental consent.

Blake Lorenz embraced the emotional teen as she told her story in the following video posted on YouTube:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0P5IaIE_LI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wnd.com%2Findex.php%2Findex.php%3FpageId%3D107483&feature=player_embedded






Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: sleddogs on August 20, 2009, 06:21:34 PM
I wanted to highlight a few things before I hit the post button

Atlas Shrugs' Pamela Geller has followed Bary's case closely, reporting that the girl's friends accompanied her to the school counselor after they noticed bruises covering her arms and legs that allegedly resulted from beatings by her father and brother.

"The middle school, in a serious dereliction of duty, did not report these beatings to child welfare services," Geller reported. "Beatings were random, violent, unprovoked. Take, for example, when Rifqa and her father Mohamed were driving in the car. He would force her to wear the hijab (head covering), which she hated. In her discomfort she would slouch down, embarrassed, and her father would haul off and sock her in the face so that she never forgot to sit up straight in her costume. The beatings were regular and so much a part of the landscape of Rifqa's life, she became inured to them …"


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: sleddogs on August 20, 2009, 11:46:47 PM
Court Expected to Send Runaway Teen Home Despite Muslim Honor Killing Fears

A 17-year-old girl who fled to Florida after converting from Islam to Christianity will almost certainly be forced to return home to Ohio, experts say -- despite her fears that she will become the victim of an honor killing for abandoning her parents' faith.

more here

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,541205,00.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 21, 2009, 04:42:27 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-ohio-teen-runaway-082109,0,2812365.story
Rifqa Bary: 17-year-old convert, Rifqa Bary, must stay in Florida
Orlando judge orders teen convert to stay in Florida as her

Amy L. Edwards and Rene Stutzman Sentinel Staff Writers

4:23 p.m. EDT, August 21, 2009

A 17-year-old runaway who doesn't want to return to her Muslim family in Ohio must stay in Florida, a judge decided this afternoon.

Fathima Rifqa Bary was ordered to stay in Florida as the Florida Department of Law Enforcement launches an investigation into her family and the Muslim community in Ohio where she lives.

The girl has said her father would harm her because she converted to Christianity -- a charge the father denies.

The ruling comes after a hearing in juvenile court and a meeting between the teen and the head of the Florida Department of Children and Families, George Sheldon.

It also comes after a prominent state lawmaker from South Florida demanded the judge not order the runaway back to her Muslim family in Columbus, Ohio.

House Majority Leader Adam Hasner, R-Boca Raton, issued a statement that echoed much of what protesters said this morning outside of the Orange County juvenile courthouse.

However, Hasner said he has been in "direct communication" with the Attorney General's office, Sheldon because the teen's life must be "safeguarded,'' the statement said.

The girl says she fled because her father had threatened to kill her because she'd converted to Christianity. Her father says she has nothing to fear.
Her family has already agreed to allow her to live with a foster family there.

"No one should have to fear for their lives because of their religious choices,'' Hasner said, according to the statement. "I urge the court to reject the motion to relinquish custody to Ohio where she may face imminent harm from her family and community if forced to return. I fully support all legal efforts being taken to guarantee the permanent safety of this child's life."

Anti-Muslim activists organized a demonstration this morning at the juvenile courthouse on Michigan Avenue, but not many people -- fewer than a dozen -- showed up.

On the curb out front were husband and wife Ed and Sandra Warmoth of Orlando. They said they feared for the girl's safety and want her to stay here.

Rifqa disappeared from her home July 19 and popped up at the home of Blake and Beverly Lorenz of Global Revolution Church in Orlando. The couple says it met the teen through an online prayer group. Beverly Lorenz said she spoke to her just one time on the phone before she appeared.

The incident has left her family in suburban Columbus befuddled.

"Honestly," said her father, Mohamed Bary, "we didn't know why she left."

There is no evidence, according to Columbus-area authorities, that her father poses any threat.

The girl's father, a jeweler, insisted he never threatened to kill his daughter.

"She doesn't know what she's talking about," he said in a phone interview last week. "I want her to come back home. I love my daughter whether she's Christian or anything else. I want my daughter back."
There appears to be no evidence, except from the teen, that her father threatened her.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 21, 2009, 04:50:21 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20495627/detail.html
Demonstrators At Hearing In Runaway Convert Case
Hearing Set Sept. 3 Arraignment

POSTED: 2:53 pm EDT August 21, 2009
UPDATED: 4:37 pm EDT August 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A judge said Friday that Florida has jurisdiction in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her Ohio home because she says she feared punishment for converting from Islam to Christianity.

An Orlando judge said Fathima Rifqa Bary will stay in state custody in Florida until a Sept. 3 arraignment. Rifqa disappeared last month and police used phone and computer records to track her to the Rev. Blake Lorenz, pastor of Orlando, Fla.-based Global Revolution Church, who she had met through an online Facebook prayer group.

The judge also said the Florida Department of Law Enforcement will look into the teenager's claims on the request of the Department of Children and Families and ordered all parties into mediation.

Rifqa made a statement in court where she said she loves her family, but repeated her fears that she would be killed if returned home. She said she converted to Christianity four years ago.

Demonstrators gathered before the hearing in support of Rifqa staying in Florida with a foster family.
"Honor killing is not a joke," said Usama Dadok, who says he's a Muslim evangelist specialist speaker. "It's real, it's practiced, it's fact in the Koran."

He said he would rather see the teenager in a foster home than with her family.


Other demonstrators said they are calling on Gov. Charlie Crist to intervene in the case and keep Rifqa away from her family.

"We've already got statements from other elected officials who are taking a stand," Jerold Powers said. "We're calling on you to act not only for Rifqa Bary, but act for America."

Bary's father Mohamed Bary, however, said he never threatened her. He said he loves her and wants her to come home.

"It's completely false," he said. "Honestly, this is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel she has been coached to say these things."

Columbus police also question the girl's claim of being in danger.

Mohamed Bary "comes across to me as a loving, caring, worried father about the whereabouts and the health of his daughter," said Sgt. Jerry Cupp, chief of the Columbus police missing persons bureau.

The family is originally from Sri Lanka and emigrated in 2000 to seek medical help for Rifqa, who had lost sight in her right eye when she fell and struck a toy airplane on a couch at home.

Rifqa, a high school junior in well-off suburban New Albany, had been questioning her faith for several months, her father said. She attended church with friends from school and later attended services at another church, Xenos Christian Fellowship, a megachurch that emphasizes small groups meeting at home.

After Rifqa proselytized with a Bible at school, Bary said, the family asked her to stop because it wasn't an appropriate activity in school. They also told her she had an obligation to study her original faith first, before choosing another.

But he said they never threatened to kill or harm the girl. "She is still my daughter," said Bary, 47, a jeweler.

The family said Rifqa was baptized a Christian without their knowledge this year in Columbus. Around the same time, the girl met Lorenz through an online Facebook prayer group.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 21, 2009, 07:46:39 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20495627/detail.html
Demonstrators At Hearing In Runaway Convert Case
Hearing Set Sept. 3 Arraignment

POSTED: 2:53 pm EDT August 21, 2009
UPDATED: 4:37 pm EDT August 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A judge said Friday that Florida has jurisdiction in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her Ohio home because she says she feared punishment for converting from Islam to Christianity.

An Orlando judge said Fathima Rifqa Bary will stay in state custody in Florida until a Sept. 3 arraignment. Rifqa disappeared last month and police used phone and computer records to track her to the Rev. Blake Lorenz, pastor of Orlando, Fla.-based Global Revolution Church, who she had met through an online Facebook prayer group.

The judge also said the Florida Department of Law Enforcement will look into the teenager's claims on the request of the Department of Children and Families and ordered all parties into mediation.

Rifqa made a statement in court where she said she loves her family, but repeated her fears that she would be killed if returned home. She said she converted to Christianity four years ago.

Demonstrators gathered before the hearing in support of Rifqa staying in Florida with a foster family.
"Honor killing is not a joke," said Usama Dadok, who says he's a Muslim evangelist specialist speaker. "It's real, it's practiced, it's fact in the Koran."

He said he would rather see the teenager in a foster home than with her family.


Other demonstrators said they are calling on Gov. Charlie Crist to intervene in the case and keep Rifqa away from her family.

"We've already got statements from other elected officials who are taking a stand," Jerold Powers said. "We're calling on you to act not only for Rifqa Bary, but act for America."

Bary's father Mohamed Bary, however, said he never threatened her. He said he loves her and wants her to come home.

"It's completely false," he said. "Honestly, this is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel she has been coached to say these things."

Columbus police also question the girl's claim of being in danger.

Mohamed Bary "comes across to me as a loving, caring, worried father about the whereabouts and the health of his daughter," said Sgt. Jerry Cupp, chief of the Columbus police missing persons bureau.

The family is originally from Sri Lanka and emigrated in 2000 to seek medical help for Rifqa, who had lost sight in her right eye when she fell and struck a toy airplane on a couch at home.

Rifqa, a high school junior in well-off suburban New Albany, had been questioning her faith for several months, her father said. She attended church with friends from school and later attended services at another church, Xenos Christian Fellowship, a megachurch that emphasizes small groups meeting at home.

After Rifqa proselytized with a Bible at school, Bary said, the family asked her to stop because it wasn't an appropriate activity in school. They also told her she had an obligation to study her original faith first, before choosing another.

But he said they never threatened to kill or harm the girl. "She is still my daughter," said Bary, 47, a jeweler.

The family said Rifqa was baptized a Christian without their knowledge this year in Columbus. Around the same time, the girl met Lorenz through an online Facebook prayer group.
Honor killing isn't a joke Mr USAMA DADOK. HONOR KILLING happens every day. Every day I drive by the site of an honor killing. One that will haunt me til the day I die. I was in the area two hours before Amina and Sarah Said bodies were found. So Mr USAMA or OSAMA, tell those two beautiful girls that honor killings are a joke.  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: pink angel on August 21, 2009, 08:22:48 PM
JSM, you must have read wrong. He said honor killings are NOT a joke. He agrees with you. :)

p.s. I agree with you too!


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 21, 2009, 10:45:51 PM
JSM, you must have read wrong. He said honor killings are NOT a joke. He agrees with you. :)

p.s. I agree with you too!
  ::MonkeyKiss:: Ooopss. Thanks Pink, I was reading too fast and running out the door. Thanks for the correction. I am glad there is someone out there speaking for this poor child.

So, Mr Usama Barok, I stand corrected and apologize for my post. Please forgive me. TIA JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 24, 2009, 08:15:11 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-ohio-teen-mother-082309,0,3622780.story
Attorney says Crist 'taking sides' in Fathima Rifqa Bary case
FDLE investigating the Bary family in Ohio
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-08/48791547.jpg)

Alan Schmadtke Sentinel Staff Writer

1:49 p.m. EDT, August 23, 2009
An attorney representing the mother of the 17-year-old girl who ran away from her Muslim family in Ohio and showed up in Orlando as a convert to Christianity said Florida Gov. Charlie Crist issued an "unfortunate" statement that politicized a family issue.

In a statement released in the wake of a judge's order to keep 17-year-old Fathima Rifqa Bary in custody of a foster family in Florida while her family is investigated by state law enforcement officers, Craig McCarthy accused the governor of taking sides before evidence has been submitted.

"The governor's unfortunate decision to make a public statement taking sides in the Rifqa Bary case before any evidence other than allegations has been presented underscores the need to return this case to the child's home state of Ohio," McCarthy said in the statement. "Governor Crist stated that he was 'grateful' that the judge ruled a specific way and in support of his 'administration's position.'

"The entire Bary family has already been exploited by those who recklessly wish to force this case into a clash of religions, and now by the Governor's statement the Bary family's case has become a political matter as well."

Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson ruled that for at least the next two weeks, Rifqa Bary will stay in Florida. She is living with a Christian foster family that has other children, and she is being home schooled.
Meanwhile, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating threats to the girl's safety. That includes a probe into her family, which lives outside Columbus, Ohio.

FDLE's investigation is already underway, said George Sheldon, secretary of Florida's Department of Children & Families. DCF is charged with safeguarding Rifqa Bary since it was called in to look at the girl's situation after she arrived in Florida.

The investigation should last about two weeks, Sheldon said.

The judge ordered the girl back to court Sept. 3 for another hearing.

Rifqa Bary disappeared from her home in late July. Later it was learned that she hitch-hiked to a local Greyhound station and boarded a bus to Orlando to meet a husband-and-wife pastor team with whom she became familiar on Facebook.

When Bary got to Orlando, she borrowed a cell phone to call Beverly Lorenz, who with husband Blake Lorenz is a pastor of Global Revolution Church in Orlando.

The Lorenzes have said Bary was a stranger when she showed up -- and that she arrived saying she was afraid for her life. She told them her family would harm her, kill her or send her back to her native Sri Lanka, Beverly Lorenz said.

Rifqa Bary's mother and father, Mohamed Bary, a jeweler, have attended both Florida court hearings involving their daughter.

Since the family's story has hit the news, it has become a national story with both political undertones fanned by religious interest.
Christian and Muslim faithful have expressed views to Crist and to the media about what they believe should happen to the girl.

With Crist's statement, "Now the Barys can only conclude that chances for impartiality and straight-forward dealings with DCF are slipping away," McCarthy said in his statement.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 24, 2009, 09:08:43 AM
Too much to copy and paste, but this article about her parents is a must read!!!!! Pamela Geller says the parents are lying about being indigent. READ IT PLEASE   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-barys-parents-are-lying.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 24, 2009, 10:22:13 AM
Too much to copy and paste, but this article about her parents is a must read!!!!! Pamela Geller says the parents are lying about being indigent. READ IT PLEASE   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-barys-parents-are-lying.html

Reading it now.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 24, 2009, 10:30:24 AM
Too much to copy and paste, but this article about her parents is a must read!!!!! Pamela Geller says the parents are lying about being indigent. READ IT PLEASE   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-barys-parents-are-lying.html

Reading it now.

I am so frightened for this girl.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 24, 2009, 11:07:11 AM
Too much to copy and paste, but this article about her parents is a must read!!!!! Pamela Geller says the parents are lying about being indigent. READ IT PLEASE   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-barys-parents-are-lying.html

Reading it now.


I am so frightened for this girl.
I am too Trimm.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 24, 2009, 12:00:40 PM
Too much to copy and paste, but this article about her parents is a must read!!!!! Pamela Geller says the parents are lying about being indigent. READ IT PLEASE   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-barys-parents-are-lying.html
Yes I will, and this morning some lady that knows about these honor killings, who has wrote two books was on Fox and Friends. This is very scary stuff, I was not aware of all this. And why when they live in the US do they think this is alright to do?


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 24, 2009, 12:41:26 PM
Too much to copy and paste, but this article about her parents is a must read!!!!! Pamela Geller says the parents are lying about being indigent. READ IT PLEASE   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-barys-parents-are-lying.html
Yes I will, and this morning some lady that knows about these honor killings, who has wrote two books was on Fox and Friends. This is very scary stuff, I was not aware of all this. And why when they live in the US do they think this is alright to do?
Because No Rose, it is in the Koran/Quran, which in their minds is should be followed no matter where they live.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 24, 2009, 12:46:35 PM
Too much to copy and paste, but this article about her parents is a must read!!!!! Pamela Geller says the parents are lying about being indigent. READ IT PLEASE   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-barys-parents-are-lying.html
Yes I will, and this morning some lady that knows about these honor killings, who has wrote two books was on Fox and Friends. This is very scary stuff, I was not aware of all this. And why when they live in the US do they think this is alright to do?
Because No Rose, it is in the Koran/Quran, which in their minds is should be followed no matter where they live.  ::MonkeyMad::
Wow, I read that article and comments, I can't imagine that this girl will be sent home, at least I hope not.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 25, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
The Orlando Sentinel wants you!
Those intrepid geniuses over at The Orlando Sentinel are working overtime! They haven't gotten off their fat asses and done any work, mind you. But they are running more ads, asking you to do their work for them again on the Rifqa Bary case -- especially the anti-Muslim angle, as opposed to the "save the girl's life" take.

May I recommend that my expert readers and pundits contact the vegetables and leftools at the O.S. and see if you can edumacate 'em some :)

read the rest here......

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/the-orlando-sentinel-wants-you.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 25, 2009, 07:18:48 PM
This is a little old but just pizzed me off to no end when I read this

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198547.php

A Florida judge will determine whether Islam-to-Christianity convert Rifqa Bary will be returned to Ohio this afternoon at 3:15pm EDT. As I reported yesterday, the extremism of the Central Ohio mosque her parents attend, the Noor Islamic Cultural Center, has become a central issue in the dispute.

But a source who was inside a secret strategy meeting conducted by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) earlier this week has conveyed the strategy that the media's favorite Islamist group has devised to respond to the ongoing public relations crisis. According to my source who attended the strategy session, CAIR officials handed out copies of this Orlando Sentinel article and want supporters to push the meme that Christians have brainwashed and abducted this gullible teenage girl. They have also instructed supporters to circulate rumors that Rifqa had been carousing with infidel boys and engaged in acts of immorality. This CAIR strategy takes the focus off the near-universal Islamic legal precepts and Quranic injunctions that demand death for apostates and impugns the character of the innocent girl at the center of this controversy who appears to be in genuine fear for her life if she is returned to her parents.

As soon as we hear the Florida court's decision, we'll let you know. Officials at Ohio DFS have already said publicly that they intend to reunify the family if she is returned to the state.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 25, 2009, 07:54:31 PM
This is a little old but just pizzed me off to no end when I read this

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198547.php

A Florida judge will determine whether Islam-to-Christianity convert Rifqa Bary will be returned to Ohio this afternoon at 3:15pm EDT. As I reported yesterday, the extremism of the Central Ohio mosque her parents attend, the Noor Islamic Cultural Center, has become a central issue in the dispute.

But a source who was inside a secret strategy meeting conducted by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) earlier this week has conveyed the strategy that the media's favorite Islamist group has devised to respond to the ongoing public relations crisis. According to my source who attended the strategy session, CAIR officials handed out copies of this Orlando Sentinel article and want supporters to push the meme that Christians have brainwashed and abducted this gullible teenage girl. They have also instructed supporters to circulate rumors that Rifqa had been carousing with infidel boys and engaged in acts of immorality. This CAIR strategy takes the focus off the near-universal Islamic legal precepts and Quranic injunctions that demand death for apostates and impugns the character of the innocent girl at the center of this controversy who appears to be in genuine fear for her life if she is returned to her parents.

As soon as we hear the Florida court's decision, we'll let you know. Officials at Ohio DFS have already said publicly that they intend to reunify the family if she is returned to the state.


This is really upsetting, I sure hope she isn't forced to go back to her family, but I won't be surprised if she is. And then what, will somebody be watching what will be going on in the home, of course not. I don't get this, lets keep a family together crap, when there is a good chance that harm or death could happen to the child.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 25, 2009, 07:55:43 PM
Oh JSM,they will kill her.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Gizzie on August 25, 2009, 09:00:38 PM
JSM, did you read this other story written by Pamela Gellar as well? I like her!  ::MonkeyDance::


http://www.newsmax.com/pamela_geller/rifqa_barry_orlando_ohio/2009/08/24/251576.html


 The Aug. 21 ruling that allowed Rifqa Bary, the teenager who converted from Islam to Christianity and fled from her Muslim family in fear for her life, to stay in Florida rather than return to her parents, was unexpected. The media shills and Islamic machinery in the United States never expected that Rifqa and the people would prevail upon the powers that be in Florida. So now they are in overdrive.

One egregious example is an almost incomprehensible, misogynist column in the Orlando Sentinel. It is so inaccurate, so misinformed, and so dangerous, that if Rifqa Bary is harmed, “columnist” Mike Thomas could rightly be charged with incitement to violent honor killing. Thomas got nothing right. Not one detail. Further, at no point did he consider Rifqa’s testimony. At no point did he consider the consequences of Rifqa’s testimony. At no point did he consider the risk to Rifqa’s life.

....continued at link


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 25, 2009, 09:09:52 PM
This is a little old but just pizzed me off to no end when I read this

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198547.php

A Florida judge will determine whether Islam-to-Christianity convert Rifqa Bary will be returned to Ohio this afternoon at 3:15pm EDT. As I reported yesterday, the extremism of the Central Ohio mosque her parents attend, the Noor Islamic Cultural Center, has become a central issue in the dispute.

But a source who was inside a secret strategy meeting conducted by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) earlier this week has conveyed the strategy that the media's favorite Islamist group has devised to respond to the ongoing public relations crisis. According to my source who attended the strategy session, CAIR officials handed out copies of this Orlando Sentinel article and want supporters to push the meme that Christians have brainwashed and abducted this gullible teenage girl. They have also instructed supporters to circulate rumors that Rifqa had been carousing with infidel boys and engaged in acts of immorality. This CAIR strategy takes the focus off the near-universal Islamic legal precepts and Quranic injunctions that demand death for apostates and impugns the character of the innocent girl at the center of this controversy who appears to be in genuine fear for her life if she is returned to her parents.

As soon as we hear the Florida court's decision, we'll let you know. Officials at Ohio DFS have already said publicly that they intend to reunify the family if she is returned to the state.


This is really upsetting, I sure hope she isn't forced to go back to her family, but I won't be surprised if she is. And then what, will somebody be watching what will be going on in the home, of course not. I don't get this, lets keep a family together crap, when there is a good chance that harm or death could happen to the child.
No Rose, I don't know if they will give her back to the family. It sounds like it may happen in the near future. I just hope and pray that the judges, DFS make the right decision. There is a life at stake here and it isn't PC to speak up for this girl.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 25, 2009, 09:15:29 PM
JSM, did you read this other story written by Pamela Gellar as well? I like her!  ::MonkeyDance::


http://www.newsmax.com/pamela_geller/rifqa_barry_orlando_ohio/2009/08/24/251576.html


 The Aug. 21 ruling that allowed Rifqa Bary, the teenager who converted from Islam to Christianity and fled from her Muslim family in fear for her life, to stay in Florida rather than return to her parents, was unexpected. The media shills and Islamic machinery in the United States never expected that Rifqa and the people would prevail upon the powers that be in Florida. So now they are in overdrive.

One egregious example is an almost incomprehensible, misogynist column in the Orlando Sentinel. It is so inaccurate, so misinformed, and so dangerous, that if Rifqa Bary is harmed, “columnist” Mike Thomas could rightly be charged with incitement to violent honor killing. Thomas got nothing right. Not one detail. Further, at no point did he consider Rifqa’s testimony. At no point did he consider the consequences of Rifqa’s testimony. At no point did he consider the risk to Rifqa’s life.

....continued at link
No Gizzie I hadn't read it, been busy with other things. Thanks for the link and the story.

I have been a Pamela fan since Sarah and Amina were murdered by their father. She and Robert Spencer and others are the only ones that have EVER said it was an HONOR KILLING.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Gizzie on August 25, 2009, 09:33:09 PM
JSM, did you read this other story written by Pamela Gellar as well? I like her!  ::MonkeyDance::


http://www.newsmax.com/pamela_geller/rifqa_barry_orlando_ohio/2009/08/24/251576.html


 The Aug. 21 ruling that allowed Rifqa Bary, the teenager who converted from Islam to Christianity and fled from her Muslim family in fear for her life, to stay in Florida rather than return to her parents, was unexpected. The media shills and Islamic machinery in the United States never expected that Rifqa and the people would prevail upon the powers that be in Florida. So now they are in overdrive.

One egregious example is an almost incomprehensible, misogynist column in the Orlando Sentinel. It is so inaccurate, so misinformed, and so dangerous, that if Rifqa Bary is harmed, “columnist” Mike Thomas could rightly be charged with incitement to violent honor killing. Thomas got nothing right. Not one detail. Further, at no point did he consider Rifqa’s testimony. At no point did he consider the consequences of Rifqa’s testimony. At no point did he consider the risk to Rifqa’s life.

....continued at link
No Gizzie I hadn't read it, been busy with other things. Thanks for the link and the story.

I have been a Pamela fan since Sarah and Amina were murdered by their father. She and Robert Spencer and others are the only ones that have EVER said it was an HONOR KILLING.



You are very welcome! I actually found this link from a link you had posted! So, Thank You !!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 26, 2009, 10:33:37 AM
Rifqa vs. Goliath

Rifqa vs. Goliath
The leftist Islamic alliance is pulling out all the stops to crush the power of authenticity, the gospel truth, the word of a just turned 17 year old girl, Rifqa Bary. The Islamic spin machine was slow on the media spin uptake, as they thought for sure that they had the cat (or in this case Rifqa) in the bag when they went into the jurisdiction hearing on Friday. They assumed Rifqa would be sent back to Ohio and dealt with accordingly.

But the candor and integrity in this girl's desperate plea set freedom loving people alight. Furious flurries of emails, faxes, and phone calls from blog readers, talk radio listeners, etc., were frantically made in a lifesaving plea for this brave girl's life. And G-d bless, she was saved (in more ways than one). And if you haven't dashed off a note of thanks to Governor Crist, by all means do it.

Read the rest here....

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-vs-goliath.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 26, 2009, 11:41:44 AM
Thanks for the updates.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 11:48:47 AM
Thanks for the updates.   ::MonkeyCool::
Thanks, very interesting.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 26, 2009, 04:17:20 PM
'Apostate' Girl's Father: The Unreported Story

Rifqa Bary, the Ohio girl who converted from Islam to Christianity and fled from her family in fear for her life, prevailed. She will not be sent back to her father who threatened her life. But she got no help from the mainstream media. Either they didn't report her story or when they did, they printed half-truths and deceptions to whitewash Islam. The media demonized Christianity ("brainwashed by a cult") while inaccurately reporting the facts in order to avoid reporting about the violent ideology of Islam. They have become almost as depraved as the murderers they cover for. And in doing so, the mainstream media has missed quite a lot that is crucial to Rifqa's story.


Rifqa's parents, Mohamad and Aysha Bary, signed affidavits declaring themselvesindigent.

read the rest here...


http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/apostate_girls_father_the_unre.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 26, 2009, 10:03:14 PM
Her father knows where she is.....she is not safe, period. IMO



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Sister on August 27, 2009, 12:08:08 AM
You are right . . . she is not safe!!


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 30, 2009, 08:45:30 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-bary-family-in-columbus-083009,0,4902721.story
Muslim family: Problems with Rifqa Bary began with laptop gift
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-08/48951944.jpg)
 By Rene Stutzman  Sentinel Staff Writer

August 30, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Mohamed Bary is a doting Muslim father, intent on giving his daughter the best education he can. But he says he made a terrible mistake last October: He bought her a laptop computer.

Because of that laptop and access to the Internet, he says he lost his daughter to Christian extremists.

Fathima Rifqa Bary, 17, is 800 miles away, living with a Christian foster family in the Orlando area. She is a runaway who has become a cause célèbre among evangelical Christians. She fled Ohio last month, saying her father had threatened to kill her because she had converted to Christianity.

Not true, Mohamed Bary said.

"I still cannot believe she would think that," he said.

But somebody planted that idea in her head, and he is convinced it was someone she met on the Internet.

Facebook, an online social network in which users select "friends" from anywhere and everywhere, is where Rifqa met Blake and Beverly Lorenz, the Orlando husband-and-wife minister team who took her in after she ran away.

In the weeks before she fled, her parents noticed she would sleep all day and stay up all night exploring the Internet.

Until this spring, Rifqa was a model student, an obedient daughter. She earned good grades, worked part-time at a Chinese restaurant and called home even if she were running just 10 minutes late.
But about the time school ended in May, she began all-night Facebook sessions. She started withdrawing from family members and longtime friends, her parents said.

Many of her chats were with evangelical Christians, her father said. They turned her against him, he said.

Friends back family
People who know the Barys say Rifqa's allegations are crazy.

"There is no way this man would hurt his daughter," said Neil Javery, 52, a Hindu and family friend in Westerville, the Columbus suburb where the Barys live.

Mohamed Bary, 47, is a kind, gentle man who loves his daughter, takes great pride in Rifqa's school accomplishments.

He sells jewelry and Amway products, friends say.

Aysha Bary is a stay-at-home mom who speaks little English but breaks into tears over what has happened.

"My heart goes out to them," said Holly Easton of Plain City, Ohio, who owns a wedding gown business and pays Rifqa's mother to stitch beads onto gowns. "It's horrible. ... I hope they're able to reconcile, and she comes home and they can be a family again."

The Barys are not radical Muslims, friends and associates say. Their household is as normal as any other.

"It's just typical," Easton said. "Kid comes in, looks at parents, rolls her eyes and goes upstairs."
<snipped>


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 30, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-bary-family-in-columbus-083009,0,4902721.story
Muslim family: Problems with Rifqa Bary began with laptop gift
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-08/48951944.jpg)
 By Rene Stutzman  Sentinel Staff Writer

August 30, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Mohamed Bary is a doting Muslim father, intent on giving his daughter the best education he can. But he says he made a terrible mistake last October: He bought her a laptop computer.

Because of that laptop and access to the Internet, he says he lost his daughter to Christian extremists.

Fathima Rifqa Bary, 17, is 800 miles away, living with a Christian foster family in the Orlando area. She is a runaway who has become a cause célèbre among evangelical Christians. She fled Ohio last month, saying her father had threatened to kill her because she had converted to Christianity.

Not true, Mohamed Bary said.

"I still cannot believe she would think that," he said.

But somebody planted that idea in her head, and he is convinced it was someone she met on the Internet.

Facebook, an online social network in which users select "friends" from anywhere and everywhere, is where Rifqa met Blake and Beverly Lorenz, the Orlando husband-and-wife minister team who took her in after she ran away.

In the weeks before she fled, her parents noticed she would sleep all day and stay up all night exploring the Internet.

Until this spring, Rifqa was a model student, an obedient daughter. She earned good grades, worked part-time at a Chinese restaurant and called home even if she were running just 10 minutes late.
But about the time school ended in May, she began all-night Facebook sessions. She started withdrawing from family members and longtime friends, her parents said.

Many of her chats were with evangelical Christians, her father said. They turned her against him, he said.

Friends back family
People who know the Barys say Rifqa's allegations are crazy.

"There is no way this man would hurt his daughter," said Neil Javery, 52, a Hindu and family friend in Westerville, the Columbus suburb where the Barys live.

Mohamed Bary, 47, is a kind, gentle man who loves his daughter, takes great pride in Rifqa's school accomplishments.

He sells jewelry and Amway products, friends say.

Aysha Bary is a stay-at-home mom who speaks little English but breaks into tears over what has happened.

"My heart goes out to them," said Holly Easton of Plain City, Ohio, who owns a wedding gown business and pays Rifqa's mother to stitch beads onto gowns. "It's horrible. ... I hope they're able to reconcile, and she comes home and they can be a family again."

The Barys are not radical Muslims, friends and associates say. Their household is as normal as any other.

"It's just typical," Easton said. "Kid comes in, looks at parents, rolls her eyes and goes upstairs."
<snipped>
I wonder how much CAIR is paying this Rene Stutzman to write this drivel. The Barys are not radical Muslims? He Stutzman check into their Mosque they attend in Ohio. It is QUITE RADICAL   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 10:44:29 AM
So the dad is blaming the internet access? Well a girl that age would have to have access anyway for school work, and maybe she had thoughts of conversion way before the computer?


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Ariana on August 30, 2009, 02:00:32 PM
So the dad is blaming the internet access? Well a girl that age would have to have access anyway for school work, and maybe she had thoughts of conversion way before the computer?

I don't remember where the article is but there was one that said she converted years ago and hid it, her family just found out recently.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 30, 2009, 02:24:39 PM
So the dad is blaming the internet access? Well a girl that age would have to have access anyway for school work, and maybe she had thoughts of conversion way before the computer?

I don't remember where the article is but there was one that said she converted years ago and hid it, her family just found out recently.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20393087/detail.html
<snipped>
The Rev. Blake Lorenz spoke with WESH 2 News earlier this week.

"She's just afraid for life," he said.

He's now out of the country on vacation, but by phone he said he didn't coerce Fathima Bary to change faiths.

"She has been a Christian for four years, long before we ever met her," he said.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 31, 2009, 08:16:01 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-fathima-rifqa-bary-religion-bias-083109,0,5181991.story
Muslims fear runaway girl's case will fuel religious hatred
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-08/48791547.jpg)
eff Kunerth  Sentinel Staff Writer

August 31, 2009

From the sidelines, the Muslim community watches the saga of Fathima Rifqa Bary with sadness and weariness.

What looks to many Muslims like a family squabble between Muslim parents in Columbus, Ohio, and their runaway daughter in Orlando has become something of a new crusade by evangelical Christians.

The frustration for many Muslims in Central Florida is that the accusations of one teenage girl who says she fears her father would kill her for becoming a Christian has become a wholesale distortion of their religion.

"We feel frustrated because this is a family problem of a certain family, and the way it has been portrayed is defaming Islam and giving a way, way negative picture of our religion," said Imam Tariq Rasheed, director of the Islamic Center of Orlando.
In their advocacy of the 17-year-old girl, her defenders contend that Bary's fears of being beaten or killed because she converted to Christianity are real. The fundamentalists lobbying the state to allow Bary to remain in Florida cite instances of "honor killings" where women and girls who have shamed their families have been killed.

"There is a significant population, a growing population, of extremist Muslims who take the Quran quite literally and apply it as they have on this case," said Bary's attorney John Stemberger. "My concern is she is literally a dead girl if she is sent back to Ohio. It's only a matter of time until she disappears into the night."

Quran vs. law
Such a contention is a blatant misrepresentation of Islam, Rasheed said.

"There is not a single verse in the holy Quran that stops a person from exercising the freedom of choosing his or her religion. There is nothing about a punishment if you change your religion," Rasheed said.

Though there are Muslim nations where "honor killings" are condoned, it is not for leaving Islam, said Gwendolyn Zoharah Simmons, assistant professor of religion at the University of Florida. Non-Muslims often confuse "honor killings" with a provision in ancient Islamic law that calls for capital punishment for Muslims who leave the religion. But that law is applied by a court, not by individuals or family members, as is the custom with "honor killings," which usually involve adultery or fornication by unmarried women.

"They assume the law and the Quran are synonymous, and they are not," Simmons said. "The Quran is not a law book."

Fathima Rifqa Bary herself may be confused about the difference between capital punishment under Islamic law and honor killings, Simmons said.

Not all Muslim countries operate under Islamic law and not all Muslim countries permit honor killings — just as not all states in America have the death penalty. Sri Lanka, where Bary's parents are from, does not use Islamic law in its judicial system, Simmons said.
'Islamophobia'
The custody battle between Christian evangelicals in Florida and her Muslim parents in Ohio comes at the same time an evangelical church in Gainesville posted a sign that said "Islam is of the Devil" on its property. Several children were sent home the first week of school for wearing T-shirts with that message.

Both cases — equating Islam with evil and contending that Muslims who convert to Christianity will be killed — feed into what Simmons calls "Islamophobia."

"This plays into an irrational sense of fear among people who aren't familiar with the tenets of the faith," she said.

The portrayal of violent Muslims who want to kill their daughter and devoted evangelical Christians who want only to save the soul of a innocent child only perpetuates stereotypes of both Muslims and Christians, said Claudia Schippert, associate professor of humanities at the University of Central Florida.

"What is shameful in this entire ordeal is the way in which those who should know better, and who profess quite different values otherwise, are willing to repeat stereotypes and fuel fires of ignorance and violence," she said of the Christians at the center of this controversy.

On Aug. 21, Muslims began their monthlong observance of Ramadan. During Ramadan, Muslims turn inward away from the distractions of the everyday world that, these days, include the tug-of-war over a teenage girl who has placed their religion on trial.

"With other communities, when an individual does something, it's that individual," Rasheed said. "When it's a Muslim, it's Islam that is the motivating factor."

Jeff Kunerth can be reached at jkunerth@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5392.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 31, 2009, 09:00:34 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-fathima-rifqa-bary-religion-bias-083109,0,5181991.story
Muslims fear runaway girl's case will fuel religious hatred
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-08/48791547.jpg)
eff Kunerth  Sentinel Staff Writer

August 31, 2009

From the sidelines, the Muslim community watches the saga of Fathima Rifqa Bary with sadness and weariness.

What looks to many Muslims like a family squabble between Muslim parents in Columbus, Ohio, and their runaway daughter in Orlando has become something of a new crusade by evangelical Christians.

The frustration for many Muslims in Central Florida is that the accusations of one teenage girl who says she fears her father would kill her for becoming a Christian has become a wholesale distortion of their religion.

"We feel frustrated because this is a family problem of a certain family, and the way it has been portrayed is defaming Islam and giving a way, way negative picture of our religion," said Imam Tariq Rasheed, director of the Islamic Center of Orlando.
In their advocacy of the 17-year-old girl, her defenders contend that Bary's fears of being beaten or killed because she converted to Christianity are real. The fundamentalists lobbying the state to allow Bary to remain in Florida cite instances of "honor killings" where women and girls who have shamed their families have been killed.

"There is a significant population, a growing population, of extremist Muslims who take the Quran quite literally and apply it as they have on this case," said Bary's attorney John Stemberger. "My concern is she is literally a dead girl if she is sent back to Ohio. It's only a matter of time until she disappears into the night."

Quran vs. law
Such a contention is a blatant misrepresentation of Islam, Rasheed said.

"There is not a single verse in the holy Quran that stops a person from exercising the freedom of choosing his or her religion. There is nothing about a punishment if you change your religion," Rasheed said.

Though there are Muslim nations where "honor killings" are condoned, it is not for leaving Islam, said Gwendolyn Zoharah Simmons, assistant professor of religion at the University of Florida. Non-Muslims often confuse "honor killings" with a provision in ancient Islamic law that calls for capital punishment for Muslims who leave the religion. But that law is applied by a court, not by individuals or family members, as is the custom with "honor killings," which usually involve adultery or fornication by unmarried women.

"They assume the law and the Quran are synonymous, and they are not," Simmons said. "The Quran is not a law book."

Fathima Rifqa Bary herself may be confused about the difference between capital punishment under Islamic law and honor killings, Simmons said.

Not all Muslim countries operate under Islamic law and not all Muslim countries permit honor killings — just as not all states in America have the death penalty. Sri Lanka, where Bary's parents are from, does not use Islamic law in its judicial system, Simmons said.
'Islamophobia'
The custody battle between Christian evangelicals in Florida and her Muslim parents in Ohio comes at the same time an evangelical church in Gainesville posted a sign that said "Islam is of the Devil" on its property. Several children were sent home the first week of school for wearing T-shirts with that message.

Both cases — equating Islam with evil and contending that Muslims who convert to Christianity will be killed — feed into what Simmons calls "Islamophobia."

"This plays into an irrational sense of fear among people who aren't familiar with the tenets of the faith," she said.

The portrayal of violent Muslims who want to kill their daughter and devoted evangelical Christians who want only to save the soul of a innocent child only perpetuates stereotypes of both Muslims and Christians, said Claudia Schippert, associate professor of humanities at the University of Central Florida.

"What is shameful in this entire ordeal is the way in which those who should know better, and who profess quite different values otherwise, are willing to repeat stereotypes and fuel fires of ignorance and violence," she said of the Christians at the center of this controversy.

On Aug. 21, Muslims began their monthlong observance of Ramadan. During Ramadan, Muslims turn inward away from the distractions of the everyday world that, these days, include the tug-of-war over a teenage girl who has placed their religion on trial.

"With other communities, when an individual does something, it's that individual," Rasheed said. "When it's a Muslim, it's Islam that is the motivating factor."

Jeff Kunerth can be reached at jkunerth@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5392.
  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::

Leave the girl where she is or she will end up like Sarah and Amina Said.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 31, 2009, 03:53:24 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20651101/detail.html
Attorney: Runaway's Parents' Radical Views Pose Danger
Teen Ran Away From Ohio Home After She Says Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 2:50 pm EDT August 31, 2009
UPDATED: 3:09 pm EDT August 31, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teleconference was held Monday in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her parents in Ohio after she said her father threatened to kill her based on her religious views.

The main message that Orlando attorney, John Stemberger, who is advocating for Fathima Bary, tried to get across was that the the teen's parents' "radical and dangerous" involvement with a Muslim mosque in their hometown of Columbus, Ohio is creating "clear and present danger" for the girl if she were to return home.

Fathima Bary converted to Christianity and said her Muslim father threatened to kill her for dishonoring the family. Her father is on the defense, while the Islamic Society of Central Florida said its faith doesn't condone murder and wonders if the religious runaway is nothing more than a troubled teen. Fathima has been in foster care since earlier this month.

Mohamed Bary, the teen's father, said he denies he ever threatened to kill his daughter for turning her back on the family's Muslim faith by becoming a Christian. He said he believes she fled to Florida last month after being brainwashed by the pastor of Global Revolution Church of Orlando, who she met on Facebook.

"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary said.
Two documents were also filed Monday: one was a special investigative memo and the other an affidavit on behalf of Fathima.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 31, 2009, 04:17:11 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20651101/detail.html
Attorney: Runaway's Parents' Radical Views Pose Danger
Teen Ran Away From Ohio Home After She Says Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 2:50 pm EDT August 31, 2009
UPDATED: 3:09 pm EDT August 31, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teleconference was held Monday in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her parents in Ohio after she said her father threatened to kill her based on her religious views.

The main message that Orlando attorney, John Stemberger, who is advocating for Fathima Bary, tried to get across was that the the teen's parents' "radical and dangerous" involvement with a Muslim mosque in their hometown of Columbus, Ohio is creating "clear and present danger" for the girl if she were to return home.
Fathima Bary converted to Christianity and said her Muslim father threatened to kill her for dishonoring the family. Her father is on the defense, while the Islamic Society of Central Florida said its faith doesn't condone murder and wonders if the religious runaway is nothing more than a troubled teen. Fathima has been in foster care since earlier this month.

Mohamed Bary, the teen's father, said he denies he ever threatened to kill his daughter for turning her back on the family's Muslim faith by becoming a Christian. He said he believes she fled to Florida last month after being brainwashed by the pastor of Global Revolution Church of Orlando, who she met on Facebook.

"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary said.
Two documents were also filed Monday: one was a special investigative memo and the other an affidavit on behalf of Fathima.
Funny, seems like JSM just posted yesterday I think about the mosque these people went to, I'm glad her attorney is saying the same thing.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 31, 2009, 04:53:38 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20651101/detail.html
Attorney: Runaway's Parents' Radical Views Pose Danger
Teen Ran Away From Ohio Home After She Says Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 2:50 pm EDT August 31, 2009
UPDATED: 4:35 pm EDT August 31, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teleconference was held Monday in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her parents in Ohio after she said her father threatened to kill her based on her religious views.

The main message that Orlando attorney, John Stemberger, who is advocating for Fathima Bary, who is known as Riqua, tried to get across was that the the teen's parents' "radical and dangerous" involvement with a Muslim mosque in their hometown of Columbus, Ohio is creating "clear and present danger" for the girl if she were to return home. He claims the mosque has terrorist ties.

Stemberger said the leaders of the mosque of orchestrating and controlling the girl's father's actions.

"In fact, the reason that he confronted Riqua was because members of the mosque found out she was a Christian on Facebook; they informed the elders of the mosque, and those leaders confronted several times in phone calls and in e-mails, the father, and that's when the father said, 'We have to deal with this immediately,'" Stemberger said.

Fathima Bary converted to Christianity and said her Muslim father threatened to kill her for dishonoring the family. Her father is on the defense, while the Islamic Society of Central Florida said its faith doesn't condone murder and wonders if the religious runaway is nothing more than a troubled teen. Fathima has been in foster care since earlier this month.
Mohamed Bary, the teen's father, said he denies he ever threatened to kill his daughter for turning her back on the family's Muslim faith by becoming a Christian. He said he believes she fled to Florida last month after being brainwashed by the pastor of Global Revolution Church of Orlando, who she met on Facebook.

"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary said.

Two documents were also filed Monday: one was a special investigative memo and the other an affidavit on behalf of Fathima.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 31, 2009, 05:03:51 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20651101/detail.html
Attorney: Runaway's Parents' Radical Views Pose Danger
Teen Ran Away From Ohio Home After She Says Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 2:50 pm EDT August 31, 2009
UPDATED: 4:35 pm EDT August 31, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teleconference was held Monday in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her parents in Ohio after she said her father threatened to kill her based on her religious views.

The main message that Orlando attorney, John Stemberger, who is advocating for Fathima Bary, who is known as Riqua, tried to get across was that the the teen's parents' "radical and dangerous" involvement with a Muslim mosque in their hometown of Columbus, Ohio is creating "clear and present danger" for the girl if she were to return home. He claims the mosque has terrorist ties.

Stemberger said the leaders of the mosque of orchestrating and controlling the girl's father's actions.

"In fact, the reason that he confronted Riqua was because members of the mosque found out she was a Christian on Facebook; they informed the elders of the mosque, and those leaders confronted several times in phone calls and in e-mails, the father, and that's when the father said, 'We have to deal with this immediately,'" Stemberger said.

Fathima Bary converted to Christianity and said her Muslim father threatened to kill her for dishonoring the family. Her father is on the defense, while the Islamic Society of Central Florida said its faith doesn't condone murder and wonders if the religious runaway is nothing more than a troubled teen. Fathima has been in foster care since earlier this month.
Mohamed Bary, the teen's father, said he denies he ever threatened to kill his daughter for turning her back on the family's Muslim faith by becoming a Christian. He said he believes she fled to Florida last month after being brainwashed by the pastor of Global Revolution Church of Orlando, who she met on Facebook.

"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary said.

Two documents were also filed Monday: one was a special investigative memo and the other an affidavit on behalf of Fathima.
Sounds to me that Mohamed Bary is in a religious cult and Fathima got away from said cult.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 31, 2009, 05:16:00 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,545020,00.html
 A 17-year-old girl who fled to Florida after converting from Islam to Christianity will be in "clear and present danger" if returned to Ohio due to her parent's affiliation with an Islamic cultural center, her attorney claims.

In a 35-page memorandum filed Monday in Orange County family court, attorney John Stemberger claims Fathima Rifqa Bary, who will remain in foster care in Florida at least until a hearing on Thursday, should not be returned to the custody of her parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, because of their connection to the Noor Islamic Cultural Center near Columbus, Ohio.
"The leader of the mosque, Dr. Hany Saqr, was previously an imam for another area mosque at the same time the largest known Al Qaeda cell in the U.S. since 9/11 was operating out of the mosque," the document read. "Additionally, Dr. Saqr was identified in exhibits submitted by the Department of Justice in a recent terrorism finance trial in Texas as being one of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America — an international organization responsible for birthing virtually every Islamic terrorist organization in the world, including Al Qaeda."

The center also is affiliated with Dr. Salah Sultan, a "cleric alleged photographed with terrorist leaders designated as such by the U.S. government," according to the document, and frequently hosts "extremist speakers" who have allegedly made statements supporting violence and terrorism.

Stemberger also claims the Noor Center has been "directly tied" to an ongoing probe into Somali-American youths who fled the U.S. to train in terror camps operated by the Al Qaeda-linked Al-Shabaab terror organization.

Stemberger, who is seeking to obtain residence for Bary in Florida, says the claims made in his memorandum is not "a case" against Islam.

"The vast majority of Muslims in this country are peaceful and law-abiding citizens," Stemberger said Monday. "Her family are members of this mosque … That's the problem."

Stemberger claims the girl's parents are undoubtedly influenced by teachings at the cultural center. If returned to Ohio, as her parents are seeking, it's just a matter of time "until she slips away in the night," he said.

Attempts by FOXNews.com to reach Hany and attorneys for the Noor Islamic Cultural Center before publication were not successful. Hany has denied all the allegations in the court filings, the Associated Press reports.
Shayan Elahi, an attorney for Rifqa's father, declined to comment when reached by FOXNews.com because he had yet to read the documents.

In a separate brief, Fathima Rifqa Bary — who moved with her family from Sri Lanka to Queens, N.Y., in 2000, and later to Gahanna, Ohio, in 2004 — claims her father selected the cultural center despite eight other mosques that were closer to their home.

"My father was very intent on making sure that his children, and especially me, were raised deeply in the faith of 'Original Islam' which was taught at the Noor Center," an affidavit filed Monday read. "Our family attended the Noor Center gatherings as much [sic] our schedules would allow."

The 17-year-old girl said she became a Christian in November 2005 while at the Korean United Methodist Church in Columbus, Ohio.

"I hid my Christian faith from my parents as best as I could and had to sneak around to attend Christian campus meetings," the affidavit continued. "I also hid my Bible at home in various locations."

In 2007, after finding the Christian book "Purpose Driven Life," Rifqa claimed her father had a "serious discussion" about the importance of retaining her Muslim faith and Islamic blood line. Later, in 2009, Rifqa claims her father confronted her about whether she had become a Christian.

"Then my father told me that he received numerous e-mails and phone calls from the leaders of the Noor Center community who informed him that he need to deal with this matter immediately," the affidavit continues.

Bary also claims her father threatened to kill and disavow her and that her mother threatened to have her "sent back to Sri Lanka to be dealt with" when she discovered another Christian book in her bedroom on July 17.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 31, 2009, 06:44:36 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20651101/detail.html
Attorney: Runaway's Parents' Radical Views Pose Danger
Teen Ran Away From Ohio Home After She Says Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 2:50 pm EDT August 31, 2009
UPDATED: 6:35 pm EDT August 31, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teleconference was held Monday in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her parents in Ohio after she said her father threatened to kill her based on her religious views.

The main message that Orlando attorney, John Stemberger, who is advocating for Fathima Bary, who is known as Riqua, tried to get across was that the the teen's parents' "radical and dangerous" involvement with a Muslim mosque in their hometown of Columbus, Ohio is creating "clear and present danger" for the girl if she were to return home. He claims the mosque has terrorist ties.
Affidavit......ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teleconference was held Monday in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her parents in Ohio after she said her father threatened to kill her based on her religious views.

Affidavit........  http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0831/20654961.pdf
Stemberger said the leaders of the mosque of orchestrating and controlling the girl's father's actions.

"In fact, the reason that he confronted Riqua was because members of the mosque found out she was a Christian on Facebook; they informed the elders of the mosque, and those leaders confronted several times in phone calls and in e-mails, the father, and that's when the father said, 'We have to deal with this immediately,'" Stemberger said.

Fathima Bary converted to Christianity and said her Muslim father threatened to kill her for dishonoring the family. Her father is on the defense, while the Islamic Society of Central Florida said its faith doesn't condone murder and wonders if the religious runaway is nothing more than a troubled teen. Fathima has been in foster care since earlier this month.

Mohamed Bary, the teen's father, said he denies he ever threatened to kill his daughter for turning her back on the family's Muslim faith by becoming a Christian. He said he believes she fled to Florida last month after being brainwashed by the pastor of Global Revolution Church of Orlando, who she met on Facebook.
"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary said.

Two documents were also filed Monday: one was a special investigative memo and the other an affidavit on behalf of Fathima.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 31, 2009, 07:02:21 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20651101/detail.html
Attorney: Runaway's Parents' Radical Views Pose Danger
Teen Ran Away From Ohio Home After She Says Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 2:50 pm EDT August 31, 2009
UPDATED: 6:35 pm EDT August 31, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teleconference was held Monday in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her parents in Ohio after she said her father threatened to kill her based on her religious views.

The main message that Orlando attorney, John Stemberger, who is advocating for Fathima Bary, who is known as Riqua, tried to get across was that the the teen's parents' "radical and dangerous" involvement with a Muslim mosque in their hometown of Columbus, Ohio is creating "clear and present danger" for the girl if she were to return home. He claims the mosque has terrorist ties.
Affidavit......ORLANDO, Fla. -- A teleconference was held Monday in the case of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her parents in Ohio after she said her father threatened to kill her based on her religious views.

Affidavit........  http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0831/20654961.pdf
Stemberger said the leaders of the mosque of orchestrating and controlling the girl's father's actions.

"In fact, the reason that he confronted Riqua was because members of the mosque found out she was a Christian on Facebook; they informed the elders of the mosque, and those leaders confronted several times in phone calls and in e-mails, the father, and that's when the father said, 'We have to deal with this immediately,'" Stemberger said.

Fathima Bary converted to Christianity and said her Muslim father threatened to kill her for dishonoring the family. Her father is on the defense, while the Islamic Society of Central Florida said its faith doesn't condone murder and wonders if the religious runaway is nothing more than a troubled teen. Fathima has been in foster care since earlier this month.

Mohamed Bary, the teen's father, said he denies he ever threatened to kill his daughter for turning her back on the family's Muslim faith by becoming a Christian. He said he believes she fled to Florida last month after being brainwashed by the pastor of Global Revolution Church of Orlando, who she met on Facebook.
"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary said.

Two documents were also filed Monday: one was a special investigative memo and the other an affidavit on behalf of Fathima.
Thanks Trimm for the links and the affidavit.

Well according to the avidavit, she wasn't brainwashed by the Global Revolution Church, she had to seek Jesus through a Korean church. That in itself means she wasn't brainwashed unless the GRC of Orlando SPEAK Korean.

I have since the day I asked if any Ohio monkeys knew that Rifqa was missing have believed her story. I will not change my mind on that.

This girl is in fear of her life, just like Sarah and Amina were when they left with their monster mother to go to Oklahoma. Sad thing is, these two girls trusted their mom to take care of them, but instead brought them back to be slaughtered. I guarantee you, Rifqa left because she knew her mother would turn a blind eye to what was going to happen to her daughter.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on August 31, 2009, 07:09:16 PM
UPDATE: AUDIO OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE HERE: Download 070115 RIFQA BARY PRESS CONFERENCE 000.mp3 (22769.5K). (The audio buzz is intermittent.)

Read it all here.....


http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/rifqa-speaks-.html



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 01, 2009, 07:14:58 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20651101/detail.html
Danger
Teen Ran Away From Ohio Home After She Says Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 2:50 pm EDT August 31, 2009
UPDATED: 5:58 am EDT September 1, 2009
The main message that Orlando attorney, John Stemberger, who is advocating for Fathima Bary, who is known as Riqua, tried to get across was that the the teen's parents' "radical and dangerous" involvement with a Muslim mosque in their hometown of Columbus, Ohio is creating "clear and present danger" for the girl if she were to return home. He claims the mosque has terrorist ties.
Stemberger said the leaders of the mosque of orchestrating and controlling the girl's father's actions.

"In fact, the reason that he confronted Riqua was because members of the mosque found out she was a Christian on Facebook; they informed the elders of the mosque, and those leaders confronted several times in phone calls and in e-mails, the father, and that's when the father said, 'We have to deal with this immediately,'" Stemberger said.

Fathima Bary converted to Christianity and said her Muslim father threatened to kill her for dishonoring the family. Her father is on the defense, while the Islamic Society of Central Florida said its faith doesn't condone murder and wonders if the religious runaway is nothing more than a troubled teen. Fathima has been in foster care since earlier this month.
Mohamed Bary, the teen's father, said he denies he ever threatened to kill his daughter for turning her back on the family's Muslim faith by becoming a Christian. He said he believes she fled to Florida last month after being brainwashed by the pastor of Global Revolution Church of Orlando, who she met on Facebook.

"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary said.

Two documents were also filed Monday: one was a special investigative memo and the other an affidavit on behalf of Fathima.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 01, 2009, 08:05:18 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-rifqa-lorenz-090109,0,2926158.story
Couple: No regrets in taking in runaway teen Rifqa Bary
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-09/48991118.jpg)

Amy L. Edwards Sentinel Staff Writer

September 1, 2009
It started with a middle-of-the-night phone call.

Beverly Lorenz wanted to go to bed. But when a fearful teenager she barely knew — a girl she met through the Internet social-networking site Facebook, living 1,000 miles away — asked if they could talk, Lorenz agreed.

That mid-July phone call led to a 30-hour Greyhound bus trip and cultural and spiritual debates over the fate of one girl: Fathima Rifqa Bary.

And it thrust Beverly and husband Blake Lorenz, pastors who have served in Central Florida for more than 25 years, into unfamiliar roles.

They've been accused of kidnapping Rifqa from her Muslim parents. They've been accused of brain-washing Rifqa. Now they're concerned for their own lives.

"We weren't trying to be secret or hidden," Beverly Lorenz said. "We were trying to help her to the best of our ability."

The accusations against them, Blake Lorenz said, aren't true. And they're not anti-Muslim.

"I'm pro-Jesus," he said. "And Jesus tells us to love everybody. I do my best to try to do that. And we're praying for her parents and for healing and reconciliation."

On July 19, Rifqa ran away from her home in Westerville, Ohio, boarding a bus bound for Orlando — and the Lorenzes' home — with a ticket paid for by somebody else. The teen, who had converted from Islam to Christianity four years earlier, told Beverly she feared for her life.

The Lorenzes took her in. The pastors said they quizzed her about her life and family.

Beverly Lorenz, a former teacher, said it was clear to them that Rifqa was telling the truth. She wasn't a drama queen — or a teen feuding with her parents. If that were the case, Blake Lorenz said, they would have sent her back to Ohio.

"She really believed that her dad would kill her and the Muslim community would kill her. She believed that with all of her heart. She was terrified of going back to Ohio," he said.
Rifqa's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, have denied any intention to harm their daughter.

Asked why they were willing to take Rifqa in, Lorenz said, "We really believed it was the Holy Spirit leading us. We prayed about it. We sought legal counsel. We didn't do anything without legal counsel because we didn't want to break any laws."

After Rifqa arrived, the Lorenzes said they called 11 lawyers, a judge and Catholic Charities. Each had different advice. No one knew what to do with Rifqa.

Local lawyer Mat Staver, a longtime friend of the Lorenzes who has offered the couple advice, said they have been put into an odd situation.

"They're in a Catch-22," said Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, a local conservative legal advocacy group. "They were put in a situation that they've never been in before. Do I not open my door; do I open my door?"

Rifqa lived with them for more than two weeks before a judge determined she needed to be in a foster home until the courts could decide which authorities — in Florida or Ohio — have jurisdiction.
Phone call in the night
Blake Lorenz, 53, was a pastor at Pine Castle United Methodist Church for 16 years before retiring last year. In October, he and Beverly started Global Revolution Church.

Beverly Lorenz, 51, is a third-generation pastor, following in the footsteps of her father and grandfather. The couple have three adult children, one of whom leaves this week to serve in a ministry in Kansas City.
Continued here........  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-rifqa-lorenz-090109,0,2926158.story?page=2


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 01, 2009, 01:03:10 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-rifqa-lorenz-090109,0,2926158.story
Couple: No regrets in taking in runaway teen Rifqa Bary
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-09/48991118.jpg)

Amy L. Edwards Sentinel Staff Writer

September 1, 2009
It started with a middle-of-the-night phone call.

Beverly Lorenz wanted to go to bed. But when a fearful teenager she barely knew — a girl she met through the Internet social-networking site Facebook, living 1,000 miles away — asked if they could talk, Lorenz agreed.

That mid-July phone call led to a 30-hour Greyhound bus trip and cultural and spiritual debates over the fate of one girl: Fathima Rifqa Bary.

And it thrust Beverly and husband Blake Lorenz, pastors who have served in Central Florida for more than 25 years, into unfamiliar roles.

They've been accused of kidnapping Rifqa from her Muslim parents. They've been accused of brain-washing Rifqa. Now they're concerned for their own lives.

"We weren't trying to be secret or hidden," Beverly Lorenz said. "We were trying to help her to the best of our ability."

The accusations against them, Blake Lorenz said, aren't true. And they're not anti-Muslim.

"I'm pro-Jesus," he said. "And Jesus tells us to love everybody. I do my best to try to do that. And we're praying for her parents and for healing and reconciliation."

On July 19, Rifqa ran away from her home in Westerville, Ohio, boarding a bus bound for Orlando — and the Lorenzes' home — with a ticket paid for by somebody else. The teen, who had converted from Islam to Christianity four years earlier, told Beverly she feared for her life.

The Lorenzes took her in. The pastors said they quizzed her about her life and family.

Beverly Lorenz, a former teacher, said it was clear to them that Rifqa was telling the truth. She wasn't a drama queen — or a teen feuding with her parents. If that were the case, Blake Lorenz said, they would have sent her back to Ohio.

"She really believed that her dad would kill her and the Muslim community would kill her. She believed that with all of her heart. She was terrified of going back to Ohio," he said.
Rifqa's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, have denied any intention to harm their daughter.

Asked why they were willing to take Rifqa in, Lorenz said, "We really believed it was the Holy Spirit leading us. We prayed about it. We sought legal counsel. We didn't do anything without legal counsel because we didn't want to break any laws."

After Rifqa arrived, the Lorenzes said they called 11 lawyers, a judge and Catholic Charities. Each had different advice. No one knew what to do with Rifqa.

Local lawyer Mat Staver, a longtime friend of the Lorenzes who has offered the couple advice, said they have been put into an odd situation.

"They're in a Catch-22," said Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, a local conservative legal advocacy group. "They were put in a situation that they've never been in before. Do I not open my door; do I open my door?"

Rifqa lived with them for more than two weeks before a judge determined she needed to be in a foster home until the courts could decide which authorities — in Florida or Ohio — have jurisdiction.
Phone call in the night
Blake Lorenz, 53, was a pastor at Pine Castle United Methodist Church for 16 years before retiring last year. In October, he and Beverly started Global Revolution Church.

Beverly Lorenz, 51, is a third-generation pastor, following in the footsteps of her father and grandfather. The couple have three adult children, one of whom leaves this week to serve in a ministry in Kansas City.
Continued here........  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-rifqa-lorenz-090109,0,2926158.story?page=2
Thanks Trimm. I sure hope she stays in foster care.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 01, 2009, 06:03:48 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20672163/detail.html
Orlando Muslims Say Far-Right Using Runaway
Teenager Says Her Parents Will Kill Her Over Conversion

POSTED: 4:31 pm EDT September 1, 2009
UPDATED: 5:50 pm EDT September 1, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Muslim community if speaking out about a so-called religious runaway who came from Ohio to Florida saying she feared her parents would kill her because she converted to Christianity.

On YouTube, Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, says her parents must kill her because she has converted.

"It's an honor. If they love God more than they love me they have to do this," she said. "I'm fighting for my life."

The teenager's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Risana Bary, have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.

"It's completely false," Mohamed Bary said. "Honestly, this is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel she has been coached to say these things."

Many Muslims in Central Florida said the story has a familiar ring – that of a conservative group trying to paint Muslims as barbarians.

"Her assertion that her father is required to kill her to cleanse his honor or something is absolutely ridiculous," Imam Muhammad Musri of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.
Musri said what started as a fight between a teenage girl and her parents after the girl came home late one night has escalated into something debated on national TV with one goal.

"She is being used as a guinea pig to try and demonstrate a religious point of view by some far-right groups that Islam is murderous and it's not true," he said.

Rifqa's attorney has said that the mosque attended by her parents has terrorist ties. Musri said if that were true, the FBI would be all over the group.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 01, 2009, 06:52:43 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20672163/detail.html
Orlando Muslims Say Far-Right Using Runaway
Teenager Says Her Parents Will Kill Her Over Conversion

POSTED: 4:31 pm EDT September 1, 2009
UPDATED: 5:50 pm EDT September 1, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Muslim community if speaking out about a so-called religious runaway who came from Ohio to Florida saying she feared her parents would kill her because she converted to Christianity.

On YouTube, Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, says her parents must kill her because she has converted.

"It's an honor. If they love God more than they love me they have to do this," she said. "I'm fighting for my life."

The teenager's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Risana Bary, have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.

"It's completely false," Mohamed Bary said. "Honestly, this is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel she has been coached to say these things."

Many Muslims in Central Florida said the story has a familiar ring – that of a conservative group trying to paint Muslims as barbarians. No need to paint them as barbarians, ummm which I believe they are the ones that kill for honor, blow up women and children in suicide explosions.

"Her assertion that her father is required to kill her to cleanse his honor or something is absolutely ridiculous," Imam Muhammad Musri of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.
Musri said what started as a fight between a teenage girl and her parents after the girl came home late one night has escalated into something debated on national TV with one goal.

"She is being used as a guinea pig to try and demonstrate a religious point of view by some far-right groups that Islam is murderous and it's not true- Islam is murderous, read your Koran, the Hadiths and Sura Mr Imam. 
," he said.

Rifqa's attorney has said that the mosque attended by her parents has terrorist ties. Musri said if that were true, the FBI would be all over the group.
Thanks Trimm, my comments are in blue. JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 02, 2009, 11:44:30 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20685607/detail.html
Mosque Denies Runaway Convert's Allegations

Posted: 10:33 am EDT September 2, 2009Updated: 11:12 am EDT September 2, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A suburban Columbus mosque accused in a runaway teen's court case of alleged terrorist connections says hate groups are using the girl to attack Muslims.

The Noor Islamic Cultural Center in Dublin says in a statement that it hopes outside groups will avoid injecting hurtful agendas into the case of 17-year-old Rifqa Bary.

Rifqa's father, Mohad Bary, spoke about his daughter Tuesday.

"We love her dearly and we want her back. She is my child and I need her and we want to be together as a family," he said.
Bary ran away from Ohio to Florida in July, saying she feared being killed for converting from Islam to Christianity.

The Center said Wednesday it is not in contact with the girl or her family and that Rifqa attended Sunday School just three times in 2007.

The mosque says hate groups are using a family matter to attack the Muslim community and Islamic organizations in an effort to further their own religious and political goals.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on September 02, 2009, 12:02:20 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20672163/detail.html
Orlando Muslims Say Far-Right Using Runaway
Teenager Says Her Parents Will Kill Her Over Conversion

POSTED: 4:31 pm EDT September 1, 2009
UPDATED: 5:50 pm EDT September 1, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Muslim community if speaking out about a so-called religious runaway who came from Ohio to Florida saying she feared her parents would kill her because she converted to Christianity.

On YouTube, Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, says her parents must kill her because she has converted.

"It's an honor. If they love God more than they love me they have to do this," she said. "I'm fighting for my life."

The teenager's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Risana Bary, have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.

"It's completely false," Mohamed Bary said. "Honestly, this is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel she has been coached to say these things."

Many Muslims in Central Florida said the story has a familiar ring – that of a conservative group trying to paint Muslims as barbarians. No need to paint them as barbarians, ummm which I believe they are the ones that kill for honor, blow up women and children in suicide explosions.

"Her assertion that her father is required to kill her to cleanse his honor or something is absolutely ridiculous," Imam Muhammad Musri of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.
Musri said what started as a fight between a teenage girl and her parents after the girl came home late one night has escalated into something debated on national TV with one goal.

"She is being used as a guinea pig to try and demonstrate a religious point of view by some far-right groups that Islam is murderous and it's not true- Islam is murderous, read your Koran, the Hadiths and Sura Mr Imam. 
," he said.

Rifqa's attorney has said that the mosque attended by her parents has terrorist ties. Musri said if that were true, the FBI would be all over the group.
Thanks Trimm, my comments are in blue. JSM

You're right JSM.  Rifqa is an apostate.  According to the Koran, anyone who converts from Islam to another religion, i.e. Christianity, must be killed.  It is the responsibility of a male relative of an apostate to behead them.  If a court returns her to her family, that's what will happen.  What I don't understand about the court though, is if Rifqa is 17, isn't she considered an adult under the law of most US states? 


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on September 02, 2009, 12:03:24 PM
Sorry, I thought she was 17.  I wonder when she will turn 17.  If she can be kept away from her family until then, maybe she has a chance at life.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 02, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20672163/detail.html
Orlando Muslims Say Far-Right Using Runaway
Teenager Says Her Parents Will Kill Her Over Conversion

POSTED: 4:31 pm EDT September 1, 2009
UPDATED: 5:50 pm EDT September 1, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Muslim community if speaking out about a so-called religious runaway who came from Ohio to Florida saying she feared her parents would kill her because she converted to Christianity.

On YouTube, Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, says her parents must kill her because she has converted.

"It's an honor. If they love God more than they love me they have to do this," she said. "I'm fighting for my life."

The teenager's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Risana Bary, have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.

"It's completely false," Mohamed Bary said. "Honestly, this is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel she has been coached to say these things."

Many Muslims in Central Florida said the story has a familiar ring – that of a conservative group trying to paint Muslims as barbarians. No need to paint them as barbarians, ummm which I believe they are the ones that kill for honor, blow up women and children in suicide explosions.

"Her assertion that her father is required to kill her to cleanse his honor or something is absolutely ridiculous," Imam Muhammad Musri of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.
Musri said what started as a fight between a teenage girl and her parents after the girl came home late one night has escalated into something debated on national TV with one goal.

"She is being used as a guinea pig to try and demonstrate a religious point of view by some far-right groups that Islam is murderous and it's not true- Islam is murderous, read your Koran, the Hadiths and Sura Mr Imam. 
," he said.

Rifqa's attorney has said that the mosque attended by her parents has terrorist ties. Musri said if that were true, the FBI would be all over the group.
Thanks Trimm, my comments are in blue. JSM

You're right JSM.  Rifqa is an apostate.  According to the Koran, anyone who converts from Islam to another religion, i.e. Christianity, must be killed.  It is the responsibility of a male relative of an apostate to behead them.  If a court returns her to her family, that's what will happen.  What I don't understand about the court though, is if Rifqa is 17, isn't she considered an adult under the law of most US states? 
She is an apostate, her father, or uncles or brother are allowed to kill her if she doesn't come back to Islam. I think the rule is they ask the disbeliever to come back, if not the penalty is death.

I'm not sure of the laws in Florida or Ohio about being a minor at 17, but if she is in foster care, she will be able to receive benefits, such as healthcare, etc. I truly believe she is in foster care for her safety. JMO JSM




Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on September 02, 2009, 04:19:40 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20672163/detail.html
Orlando Muslims Say Far-Right Using Runaway
Teenager Says Her Parents Will Kill Her Over Conversion

POSTED: 4:31 pm EDT September 1, 2009
UPDATED: 5:50 pm EDT September 1, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Muslim community if speaking out about a so-called religious runaway who came from Ohio to Florida saying she feared her parents would kill her because she converted to Christianity.

On YouTube, Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, says her parents must kill her because she has converted.

"It's an honor. If they love God more than they love me they have to do this," she said. "I'm fighting for my life."

The teenager's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Risana Bary, have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.

"It's completely false," Mohamed Bary said. "Honestly, this is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel she has been coached to say these things."

Many Muslims in Central Florida said the story has a familiar ring – that of a conservative group trying to paint Muslims as barbarians. No need to paint them as barbarians, ummm which I believe they are the ones that kill for honor, blow up women and children in suicide explosions.

"Her assertion that her father is required to kill her to cleanse his honor or something is absolutely ridiculous," Imam Muhammad Musri of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.
Musri said what started as a fight between a teenage girl and her parents after the girl came home late one night has escalated into something debated on national TV with one goal.

"She is being used as a guinea pig to try and demonstrate a religious point of view by some far-right groups that Islam is murderous and it's not true- Islam is murderous, read your Koran, the Hadiths and Sura Mr Imam. 
," he said.

Rifqa's attorney has said that the mosque attended by her parents has terrorist ties. Musri said if that were true, the FBI would be all over the group.
Thanks Trimm, my comments are in blue. JSM

You're right JSM.  Rifqa is an apostate.  According to the Koran, anyone who converts from Islam to another religion, i.e. Christianity, must be killed.  It is the responsibility of a male relative of an apostate to behead them.  If a court returns her to her family, that's what will happen.  What I don't understand about the court though, is if Rifqa is 17, isn't she considered an adult under the law of most US states? 
She is an apostate, her father, or uncles or brother are allowed to kill her if she doesn't come back to Islam. I think the rule is they ask the disbeliever to come back, if not the penalty is death.

I'm not sure of the laws in Florida or Ohio about being a minor at 17, but if she is in foster care, she will be able to receive benefits, such as healthcare, etc. I truly believe she is in foster care for her safety. JMO JSM




I just read a story in one of the tabs about a wealthy Moslem, living in Canada, whose first wife couldn't have children, so he married a second who could.  They had three girls and one boy.  The first wife was kept as sort of a slave in the house with the second wife sort of a queen.  The three daughters reached teenage years and were westernized.  The man and his teenage son, and probably the second wife, put them in a car and killed them along with the first wife and tried to make it look like an accident, but there is proof that each of them were involved.   It was a matter of honor........

I think you're right about an opportunity to recant.  I hope that no judge is ignorant of the danger and returns Rifka to her so-called family.  It is difficult for westerners to understand and believe such barbarity, but it is true.  It is not a religion of peace.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 02, 2009, 04:58:43 PM
Tomorrow is the hearing for Rifqa Bary. Let's review the case for Rifqa. (Her words and video of her statement are here.)

Rifqa converted to Christianity in secret four years ago while living in a devout Muslim household. Knowing what we know about honor killings and apostasy, there is real danger for the welfare of this child. Are we going to throw the dice with a child's life?



http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/dont-send-rifqa-bary-back.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 02, 2009, 05:04:55 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20672163/detail.html
Orlando Muslims Say Far-Right Using Runaway
Teenager Says Her Parents Will Kill Her Over Conversion

POSTED: 4:31 pm EDT September 1, 2009
UPDATED: 5:50 pm EDT September 1, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Muslim community if speaking out about a so-called religious runaway who came from Ohio to Florida saying she feared her parents would kill her because she converted to Christianity.

On YouTube, Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, says her parents must kill her because she has converted.

"It's an honor. If they love God more than they love me they have to do this," she said. "I'm fighting for my life."

The teenager's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Risana Bary, have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.

"It's completely false," Mohamed Bary said. "Honestly, this is not my daughter who is speaking. I feel she has been coached to say these things."

Many Muslims in Central Florida said the story has a familiar ring – that of a conservative group trying to paint Muslims as barbarians. No need to paint them as barbarians, ummm which I believe they are the ones that kill for honor, blow up women and children in suicide explosions.

"Her assertion that her father is required to kill her to cleanse his honor or something is absolutely ridiculous," Imam Muhammad Musri of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.
Musri said what started as a fight between a teenage girl and her parents after the girl came home late one night has escalated into something debated on national TV with one goal.

"She is being used as a guinea pig to try and demonstrate a religious point of view by some far-right groups that Islam is murderous and it's not true- Islam is murderous, read your Koran, the Hadiths and Sura Mr Imam. 
," he said.

Rifqa's attorney has said that the mosque attended by her parents has terrorist ties. Musri said if that were true, the FBI would be all over the group.
Thanks Trimm, my comments are in blue. JSM

You're right JSM.  Rifqa is an apostate.  According to the Koran, anyone who converts from Islam to another religion, i.e. Christianity, must be killed.  It is the responsibility of a male relative of an apostate to behead them.  If a court returns her to her family, that's what will happen.  What I don't understand about the court though, is if Rifqa is 17, isn't she considered an adult under the law of most US states? 
She is an apostate, her father, or uncles or brother are allowed to kill her if she doesn't come back to Islam. I think the rule is they ask the disbeliever to come back, if not the penalty is death.

I'm not sure of the laws in Florida or Ohio about being a minor at 17, but if she is in foster care, she will be able to receive benefits, such as healthcare, etc. I truly believe she is in foster care for her safety. JMO JSM




I just read a story in one of the tabs about a wealthy Moslem, living in Canada, whose first wife couldn't have children, so he married a second who could.  They had three girls and one boy.  The first wife was kept as sort of a slave in the house with the second wife sort of a queen.  The three daughters reached teenage years and were westernized.  The man and his teenage son, and probably the second wife, put them in a car and killed them along with the first wife and tried to make it look like an accident, but there is proof that each of them were involved.   It was a matter of honor........

I think you're right about an opportunity to recant.  I hope that no judge is ignorant of the danger and returns Rifka to her so-called family.  It is difficult for westerners to understand and believe such barbarity, but it is true.  It is not a religion of peace.
Yes, I know that story very well Baby. Drove them into the canal. The dad and the son took it upon themselves to kill these innocent women. Also Aqsa Parvez in Canada.

I hope the judge doesn't send her back to her parents, and no it is not a religion of peace, more like a murderous cult.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 03, 2009, 08:08:50 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20701909/detail.html
Religious Runaway Hearing Slated Today
Friend Discusses New Allegations In Case

POSTED: 6:45 am EDT September 3, 2009
UPDATED: 7:43 am EDT September 3, 2009
 Religious Runaway Hearing Slated Today.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- New allegations in the case of a religious runaway could surface at a hearing on Thursday.

Rifqa Bary, 17, said she fled from Ohio to escape her Muslim parents.

A friend talked about the new allegations in the case. He said Bary confided in him that her father was physically abusive. The Christian convert said she hopes a judge will protect her from her Muslim family and their Ohio mosque.

At a hearing on Thursday, Bary's parents and findings from investigators could play a big part in deciding her fate.

"He's threatened her with laptop computers and been violent in the past," Rev. Jamal Jivanjee said.

Jivanjee is Bary's former pastor in Ohio. He said the teenager is afraid of her Muslim father's abusive hand and worried that he will follow through on threats to kill her because she converted to Christianity.
"This is not something that she's using to run away from home or anything like that. That's absolutely not the case. There was no doubt in her mind she would lose her life," Jivanjee said.

Bary's attorney, John Stemberger, said the family's Columbus mosque is also a threat to her safety.

"There's a growing number of very extreme members of Islam, which the Noor Center Mosque has ties to terrorism," Stemberger said.

Mosque leaders are speaking out, saying hate groups are using Bary to attack Muslims.

"I have never heard anyone espouse any kind of teaching that would promote terrorism, violence or anything that would hurt one's neighbor," Noor Islamic Cultural Center spokeswoman Dr. Asma Mobin-Uddin said.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement special agents have worked with Ohio law enforcement over the past two weeks to check the legitimacy of Bary's abuse allegations to determine whether sending her back to Ohio would risk her life.

"It's fine. I know people that are from the Muslim community that have converted out. They're still a part of the community and part of the family," Mobin-Uddin said.
Bary's parents will tell a judge whether they admit to the findings, allowing Bary to remain with a Central Florida foster family, or if they'll fight for custody of their daughter and send the case to trial.

"She's scared about the possibility of returning to Ohio, but she knows that, right now, she's protected," Jivanjee said.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 03, 2009, 09:37:15 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20701909/detail.html
Religious Runaway Hearing Slated Today
Friend Discusses New Allegations In Case

POSTED: 6:45 am EDT September 3, 2009
UPDATED: 9:02 am EDT September 3, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- New allegations in the case of a religious runaway could surface at a hearing on Thursday.

Rifqa Bary, 17, said she fled from Ohio to escape her Muslim parents.

A friend talked about the new allegations in the case. He said Bary confided in him that her father was physically abusive. The Christian convert said she hopes a judge will protect her from her Muslim family and their Ohio mosque.

At a hearing on Thursday, Bary's parents and findings from investigators could play a big part in deciding her fate.

"He's threatened her with laptop computers and been violent in the past," Rev. Jamal Jivanjee said.

Jivanjee is Bary's former pastor in Ohio. He said the teenager is afraid of her Muslim father's abusive hand and worried that he will follow through on threats to kill her because she converted to Christianity.
"This is not something that she's using to run away from home or anything like that. That's absolutely not the case. There was no doubt in her mind she would lose her life," Jivanjee said.
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Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 03, 2009, 10:10:01 AM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: Please God and Jesus keep this girl from that crazy family. The judge just can't send her back.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on September 03, 2009, 10:57:31 AM
::MonkeyAngel:: Please God and Jesus keep this girl from that crazy family. The judge just can't send her back.

This young girl will soon, if not already, reach her majority.  It is better to err on the side of caution than to risk her life at the hands of radical Moslems.  I hope the judge has educated himself about the risks and about the beliefs of these barbarians and saves her from them. The US has been infected with these people and it is a fact that their goal is to institute one Caliphate over the entire world.  They have made great headway in Europe and especially in the UK.  It is their goal to do the same here.  I hope that courage and right prevail in that court in Florida today.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 03, 2009, 02:24:32 PM
Pamela Gellar interviews Rifqa's friend

http://www.youtube.com/v/lJbLSw9oA6I&hl=en&fs=1


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 03, 2009, 02:34:51 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20704154/detail.htmlRunaway Christian Convert Goes Before Judge

Posted: 9:29 am EDT September 3, 2009Updated: 1:37 pm EDT September 3, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Florida judge has sealed a police report about a teenage girl who ran away from her Ohio home to Orlando after converting from Islam to Christianity.

The judge signed the order sealing the report Thursday. The judge is holding a hearing later in the day on whether 17-year-old Rifqa Bary should return to Ohio or stay in Florida.
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Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 03, 2009, 03:30:45 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-fathima-rifqa-bary-update-090309,0,4434694.story
Fathima Rifqa Bary: Judge seals state investigative report
Judge seals findings of a state investigation into Fathima Rifqa Bary and the alleged threats made against the runaway teen by her Muslim father.

Amy L. Edwards and Rene Stutzman Sentinel Staff Writers

3:23 p.m. EDT, September 3, 2009

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The findings of a state investigation into Fathima Rifqa Bary and the alleged threats made against the runaway teen by her Muslim father have been sealed by an Orange County Circuit judge.

The Orlando Sentinel tried to obtain a copy of the report by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement today, which is slated to be presented in court this afternoon, and was told the agency cannot release the documents because of the seal.

Rifqa's lawyer, John Stemberger, asked a judge to seal the report, and the judge agreed Wednesday. Stemberger has not returned a call requesting information on the matter.

Ohio child-welfare officials issued a report yesterday, saying they've investigated the family and believe it is safe for Rifqa to return. After at least a month in foster care there, they want to reunite her with her family and place the teen in therapy.

Also in Columbus, Franklin County Prosecuting Attorney Ron O'Brien wrote a letter yesterday, saying law enforcement officials there are capable of protecting children and will take action to protect Rifqa, if necessary.

Rifqa and a slew of lawyers are in a hearing at an Orlando courtroom right now before Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson.

Rifqa is represented by three attorneys, including her Guardian Ad Litem. Her parents are not here but are connected to the hearing by telephone
Dawson is supposed to decide if her father or anyone else in Ohio poses a threat to her.

Already the scene outside the courthouse has turned combative. A representative of the Florida Security Council has at least one person outside meeting with reporters.

At least one man with an opposing opinion interrupted him, causing a brief argument between the two.

Meanwhile, several other men said Rifqa's life is at stake in today's hearing.

There are more than half a dozen news crews already set up, but the courtroom has yet to open. Dozens of people are waiting to get in, including several from FDLE and the Department of Children and Families.

Rifqa went missing from her family's home near Columbus, Ohio, on July 19. She took a Greyhound bus to Orlando, where she sought shelter from pastors Blake and Beverly Lorenz. Rifqa met Beverly Lorenz through a Facebook prayer group.

The Lorenzes have said Rifqa came to them in great fear that her Muslim father would kill her and is frightened to return to Ohio.

Rifqa's father, Mohamed Bary, has said he never threatened Rifqa, loves her, and will let her practice whatever religion she wants.Rifqa in a foster home, where she's remained since.

On Aug. 21, an Orange County judge ordered the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to investigate the alleged threats against Rifqa.

Rifqa's parents, each represented by a local attorney, will phone-in to today's hearing.

The pastors, who have served in the ministry in Central Florida for more than 25 years, allowed Rifqa to live with them for more than two weeks.

On Aug. 7, an Orlando police officer, responding to a request from Ohio authorities, was dispatched to the Lorenz's home. He picked Rifqa up, and she was eventually placed in DCF custody. The state agency placed


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 03, 2009, 04:11:28 PM
I was thinking if, which I don't believe is going to happen, she had to go back to her family, now the father would be 10 times angrier then before, because of all the attention this is getting. And if she is too stay in foster care, would it be in Florida or in Ohio? I sure hope Florida.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 03, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-fathima-rifqa-bary-update-090309,0,4434694.story
Fathima Rifqa Bary: Judge keeps girl in Florida, orders mediation
After sealing findings of a state investigation into Fathima Rifqa Bary, Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson on Thursday decided to keep the 17-year-old girl in Florida while putting the case into mediation

Amy L. Edwards and Rene Stutzman Sentinel Staff Writers

5:08 p.m. EDT, September 3, 2009
For now, Fathima Rifqa Bary is staying in Florida.

That was the biggest decision Thursday afternoon of Circuit Court Judge Daniel Dawson, who also put a gag order on attorneys involved in the case of the 17-year-old runaway from Ohio and then sent the case to mediation.

Dawson made it clear he does not want the case -- which pits Bary, a self-proclaimed Muslim who has converted to Christianity, against her Muslim parents -- to be hashed out in a courtroom.

Bary ran away from home last month, hopping a Greyhound bus from Columbus, Ohio, bound for Orlando and the home of the Lorenzes, local pastors. Although her parents reported her missing to Ohio law enforcement authorities, Florida's Department of Children and Families took control of her two weeks ago.

She has been with a foster family since, fighting for the right to stay here and away from Ohio.

The judge ordered the case into mediation; issued a gag order to attorneys; decided to keep a recently-issued seal on an investigative report for 10 days; and said Bary will remain in foster care in Florida for the immediate future.

John K. Cooper, director of the Central Region for DCF, said that mediation will allow the parties to look at several different issues. There are "very complicated issues at hand," he said.

"Its going to take a lot of work to get this family back together," he said.

Dawson set a pretrial hearing for Sept. 28.
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Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 03, 2009, 06:07:32 PM
This is from the GREAT Robert Spencer at Jihadwatch.org he was at the hearing and here is his live blogging. I don't know how to put up the link.

I'm in Orlando, Florida, at the Rifqa Bary hearing. Tom Trento of the Florida Security Council, Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs and I held a press conference outside the courtroom a little while ago, for a skeptical and sometimes hostile press. The press conference was disrupted several times by Muhammad Lutfi, an Ohio Muslim with connections to the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations; he has clearly taken a great interest in this case.

We explained about the jihadist connections of the Noor mosque, about Islamic apostasy law, and about Islamic honor killing. The mainstream media flocked to Lutfi, because he was telling them what they want to hear, but he was lying openly about Islamic apostasy law, denying that Muhammad had said, "If anyone changes his religion, kill him," and when I pointed out that this was in a hadith in Bukhari, the collection of traditions of Muhammad that Muslims consider most reliable, he denied that also.
I'm in an overflow courtroom now, with the proceedings from the main courtroom on closed-circuit video. Rifqa is in the courtroom now, and it will all be beginning soon. I'll keep up with what I can here, but my laptop is running out of juice, so I may not be able to liveblog even though laptops are allowed in here. In any case, I'll keep you posted. Pamela is in the main courtroom and I'm sure she will have extensive coverage.

I've met many heroic people here -- converts from Islam and others who have come out to show their support for this courageous and threatened girl, whom every lover of freedom should be supporting.

-- We are now embarked. Rifqa's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary, are both present via phone. Their lawyers are in the courtroom. They are discussing a date for a mediation hearing. The judge is explaining that there are "issues beyond what the facts are" -- jurisdictional issues and others. And they are sorting out the status of the mother's attorneys; the family clearly has lawyered up since the first hearing. They are apparently no longer "indigent," as they had previously claimed.

The Orlando Sentinel has put in a notice of appearance, which would give them notice of certain documents in the case; Rifqa's lawyer wonders who provided confidential information to the Sentinel so that they knew to do so. Good question. The Sentinel rep is arguing that historically when proceedings have been closed, the media has been given access to documents that are otherwise sealed to the public. Mohamed and Aysha Bary's lawyer is arguing that since this case has been "blown out of proportion" on the Internet (heh), the Sentinel should have access to confidential documents, presumably to set the record straight.

My battery is running out!

The court has denied the Sentinel's request, but the judge is assuring the media that in any issues related to closing future hearings he would allow them to be heard.

A representative of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is present and has a report. He is, perhaps significantly, sitting with the lawyers for the parents. At the adversarial press conference reporters were shouting that law enforcement had investigated and found that Rifqa was not bat any risk in returning to her family in Ohio; this perhaps was what they were referring to.

One of Rifqa's lawyers is saying that they were given no opportunity to be present when Rifqa was interviewed by law enforcement. Neither her attorney nor her guardian ad litem were present, which seems highly irregular. The other side responds that because Rifqa is not a suspect but a victim, she had no right to have counsel present.

Alas, my battery is running out; must shut down. Will take notes on paper and update you asap.

UPDATING from Blackberry now, as long as it holds out. Now, over a question regarding mediation, the lawyers have approached the bench, and the mics are off.

Now they're back. The judge is saying that there are enough attorneys in the court room (and there are many), so he is not inclined to appoint an atty ad litem for Rifqa, as she has private counsel.

Now they're discussing a gag order for the case. The judge is allowing the Sentinel rep to argue against the gag order. The Sentinel guy is saying that gag orders are for jury trials, but in this case there is no jury, so no one influenced by coverage will be making the decisions. He says that gag orders are to keep people from being prejudiced as to the case, and so no gag order is needed here.

The guardian ad litem is saying that Rifqa understands why a gag order is needed, and says that many times she and others connected to the case have been distraught by the coverage. And looking at the Sentinel's coverage, that is understandable.

Rifqa, says her lawyer, says that "This case is not about me, but about thousands like me," but understands why the gag order is needed.

Now the parents' attorney is attacking John Stemberger, Rifqa's attorney, for his hypocrisy. He says that Stemberger has been lying and attacking the Ohio mosque and Muslims, and now he wants a gag order. He is saying that a gag order would be saying that people can use the media for their benefit and that they would have no right to respond. He is saying that Stemberger's report on the Ohio mosque was based on lies from right wing sources and had no value.

The FDLE guy then contrasted Stemberger's supposedly baseless report with the FDLE report that says she is in no danger. Then Rifqa's guardian ad litem asked that he be removed from the court, as he released material from the FDLE report after they just sealed it. They went to the bench to talk that over.

The parents' lawyer is attacking Stemberger and the Lorenzes for publicizing the case. He also earlier mentioned an attack on Islam and Muslims.

The judge is saying that both sides have gotten plenty of media coverage. He agrees that the more media attention Rifqa gets, the less safe she is. He grants the gag order, but only the attorneys. They are to discuss only procedural issues with the media. The parents' lawyer says English is their 2nd language, and he is gagging people who can speak for them. Judge replies that it is not his job to provide interpreters for people who want to talk to the media -- and that they can get other people to speak for them. After the case is resolved, he said, you can write your novel or produce your miniseries or do whatever you want to do.

Now they're discussing Rifqa's citizenship status. And now on to the question of jurisdiction. The mother's new attorney has just filed a new motion saying this court has no jurisdiction. The guardian ad litem says that has already been decided, and you don't get 2 bites of the apple. Now the parents' lawyer says that Ohio Child Protective Services won't file a case because they don't think she is in danger, but FL only has jurisdiction because Ohio has not filed a case, setting up a catch 22. He says that if they have to, they will file a case in Ohio charging that Rifqa is an unruly delinquent. The judge says essentially that if another case is filed, jurisdiction will be reconsidered.

Now they're discussing procedures regarding visitation rights. She has had supervised contact with her brother. The department (not sure of what) is seeking to limit visitation with Pastor Lorenz and his wife. Now the parents' lawyer is saying that the Lorenzes and their children and the Global Revolution Church should be restricted from seeing the child. He says that because of the gag on attorneys, Stemberger, who has a habit of grandstanding, will use the church to do his "dirty work."

Stemberger says Elahi -- the parents' lawyer -- is the one who is grandstanding, and that he has provided accurate information. He says that the Lorenzes' children are Rifqa's friends and provide her comfort. The judge says he will allow them to continue to visit Rifqa. Parents' lawyer says Mohamed Bary has not lost his parental rights, and he has a say in who sees his child. He says the Lorenzes hid Rifqa for two and a half weeks while Ohio was looking for her. The judge says that no allegations have actually been made against the Lorenzes' children. And he adds that even her own siblings should not be discussing this case.

The parents' lawyer says that mediation will be useless. "I'm trying to help the court" by saying this, he says. The judge says that he doesn't see how he is helping the court by complaining that mediation won't work. They agree to set a date for mediation. Also the guardian ad litem asks that the child start counseling, and that should later expand to family counseling. Some say she has already started it. The judge suggests medication, and the guardian says Rifqa objects to that. One of Rifqa's attorneys wants to know the persepective of the counselor.

The parents' attorney wants the judge to appoint an attorney ad litem for Rifqa. He says Stemberger is agenda-driven. The judge says he should file a motion to that effect, but that Rifqa wants Stemberger and he will respect that. He says that it seems that Elahi wants a new attorney who will have a different view from Stemberger's of what is in the child's best interests. But he will not appoint one now.

September 29 -- next hearing.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 03, 2009, 06:25:32 PM
Wow,thanks JSM.That was interesting.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 03, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
FAITH UNDER FIRE
Muslims hire 'shark' attorney in Christian runaway case
'Battle has just begun, they are just getting started'

Posted: September 03, 2009
4:05 pm Eastern

A young Christian girl who ran away from her Muslim parents in Ohio when her father allegedly threatened her life will be allowed to stay with her foster family in Florida and keep her lawyer for now, a judge ruled today.

As WND reported, Fathima Rifqa Bary, 17, an honor student and cheerleader, was raised in a Muslim family in Columbus, Ohio. She became a Christian four years ago as a result of her interactions with children at school.

But Bary, a native of Sri Lanka, hitchhiked to a bus station and ran away from home July 19 because she says her family will murder her in what is known as an "honor killing" for converting to Christianity. In Islamic tradition, an honor killing is the killing of a person believed to have brought dishonor upon his or her family. The United Nations tabulates about 5,000 such "honor killings" annually around the world, and they have been documented even in the United States.

Bary sought refuge with a church group in Florida but has been in state foster care by court order. Orlando, Fla., trial lawyer John Stemberger is Bary's attorney. Atlas Shrugs' Pamela Geller was in the courtroom for a hearing today.

Bary's parents were present by phone. Geller said Bary's father, Mohamed, has a "shark" of a lawyer named Shayan Elahi. Elahi, she said, "tried like hell" to get Stemberger replaced.

"He tried to stop Rifqa's visitation with her friends (that's when she began to cry)," Geller wrote. "I can tell you that the battle has just begun. They are just getting started."

The courtroom was overflowing, with proceedings from the main courtroom on closed-circuit video. Lawyers for Bary's parents accused Stemberger of publicizing the teen's case, mentioned an attack on Islam and Muslims and argued that mediation would be "useless."

Orange County Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson imposed a strict gag order on attorneys involved in the case. He also denied media access to police reports. The judge said the more media attention the teen gets, the less safe she will be. A pretrial hearing to determine where Bary should live – with her foster family or with her parents in Ohio – has been scheduled for Sept. 29.

As WND reported, Stemberger confirmed in an Aug. 31 press teleconference that the teen had been a victim of beatings at the hands of her father.

"Her father has slapped her with such force that it has knocked her over," Stemberger said. "Her father asked her to wear the official headdress of Islam. Because she lowered her body down in the car so she couldn't be seen, he punched her on the side of her face with great force because she was ashamed of that."

The Christian teen turned to pastors Blake and Beverly Lorenz of Global Revolution Church in Orlando, Fla., whom she met through Facebook. She has been placed in foster care by the Florida Department of Children and Families, or DCF.

As WND reported, a Florida judge determined Aug 21 that she would not be returned immediately to her family in Ohio as her parents wished. She's now awaiting a decision on whether she will become a dependant of the state until Aug 10, 2010 – her 18th birthday.

Blake Lorenz embraced the emotional teen as she told her story in the following video posted on YouTube:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108854

"I'm a Christian, and my parents are Muslim. They are extremely devout," she said. "They threatened to kill me. … You guys wouldn't understand. Islam is very different than you guys think. They have to kill me. My blood is now halal, which means that because I am now a Christian, I'm from a Muslim background, it's an honor. If they love God more than me, they have to do this. I'm fighting for my life. ..."

Asked what her father, Mohamed Bary, told her, she replied, "He said he would kill me. Or he'd have me sent back to Sri Lanka where they'd put me in the asylum."

She said she left a note for her parents before she ran away: "I said, 'I refuse to deny Jesus. He is my Lord and Savior. I pray you find his forgiveness and mercy, and I love you both dearly.' I wrote that, but they never showed it to the police officers."

Bary warned that if she is forced to return to her family in Ohio, she will die "within a week."

Asked why she ran away, she said, "I was threatened by my dad. When my dad found out – I had a Facebook, that's how he found out – and phone calls from the Muslim community started coming in with e-mails that confronted me. And I had a laptop and he took that laptop and waved it in the air, and he was about to beat me with it, and he said, 'If you have this Jesus in your heart, you're dead to me. You're not my daughter.' And I refused to speak but he said, 'I will kill you. Tell me the truth.' In these words, bad words, cuss words. So I knew that I had to get away."

Bary said her father received numerous e-mails and phone calls from leaders of the Muslim community from the family mosque known as the Noor Center, warning that his daughter was an apostate. So the teenager sought to escape with her life.

Bary said she would sneak out to Christian prayer meetings and hide her Bible from her parents. After her father confronted her, he forced her to attend several classes, hoping she would return to Islam. However, several weeks later, her mother discovered a Christian book that belonged to her.

"I knew right then that it was over for me," she said. "I had to leave."

Fox News reported that the father discovered she had been baptized earlier this year.

The teenager said that in the 150 generations of her family, no one has ever known Jesus.

"I am the first one," she said. "Imagine the honor in killing me."

Bary said she wants to remain in Florida so she can be free to worship Jesus, go to church and read her Bible.

"You talk about religious freedom?" she asked. "No! I don't have that. I want to be here. I want to worship Jesus freely. I don't want to die."

Bary's father, a jeweler, called the church a "cult" and claimed it has brainwashed Fatima.

"This is a cult group who kidnapped my daughter and took her away," Mohamed Bary told WESH 2 News.

Stemberger said he hopes the court will consider extensive evidence concerning the extremist ideology promoted by the Bary family mosque when it determines whether to protect her from her family and declare her a dependent of the state of Florida.

"Based upon everything that we have researched and all the experts I have listened to," Stemberger said, "I think that there is no question in my mind that if she is sent back to Ohio, it is only a matter of time before she slips away in the night."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108854


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 03, 2009, 09:34:48 PM
Thanks Nutt.I am so worried for Fathima.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on September 03, 2009, 09:51:25 PM
This story is so disturbing.  I believe every word she says and I am sure that if she is forced back into the Moslem cult, she will either be sent to Sri Lanka to be killed by a male relative or her father will do the "honor." It's like the Christians in ancient Rome.  Is this child to be thrown to the lions for the satisfaction of the members of the Noor Mosque?

One would think that these radical Islamists would remain in their own culture if they want to enforce these archaic laws.  No, they come here where they are free to practice whatever that is, I can't really call it a religion because that signifies it has some connection with a God. Then, once they are firmly established, they start to eat away at religious freedom.  That's their goal. A universal Caliphate. And this child is a pawn in their game, a pawn which our courts are allowing. The duty of the judge should have been clear.  Grant what our Constitution grants.  Religious freedom.  That should never be mediated.

I fear for the future of the United States.  I believe that if we in the West don't wake up to the danger, we will be lost to the Grand Caliphate.  It is around us every day, from the Noor Mosque to a Ramadan dinner in the White House. And the press facilitates this takeover, too stupid to understand that once the Islamists win, the press will not have an option to object.

I pray for this young woman.  I pray that Jesus, who is in her heart, will rescue her from this terrible situation she is in.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Ariana on September 04, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
I pray that the courts, if unable to come up with a suitable situation soon, drag this out for a whole nother year so she will be an adult and her parents won't be able to do anything.  If they can do it when providing justice for a family or person wronged they surely can do it to save someone's life.  But then again maybe that is why the court date is set almost a month away?  They know that they will not reach a decision in a month anyways.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 06:16:56 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-was-sexually-abused-by-her-uncle.html

Rifqa Bary was Allegedly Sexually Abused by her Uncle

Click on the link and watch the video, the reporter asks the dad's attorney about her being sexually abused by an uncle.

 ::MonkeyMad::
Will they depose the uncle who  allegedly sexually abused her? Her mother knew about it and did nothing. I am sure the father didn't know, as Rifqa would have been punished unmercifully. The female victim is always at fault. How many lashes do rape victims get in Islamic countries? 99.

 Add this to all the many stories I broke in the Rifqa Bary case on the physical abuse of Rifqa and the parents' financial situation. No media picked them up. The media only ran the CAIR narrative (they are working with the family according to anti-Rifqa, pro Islam websites).

Not only is the media criminally negligent in not telling Rifqa's story, but they use this terrible case to seize the opportunity to smear and rank on Christianity. Christianity is the evil in all this, according to the media. The vilification of the good Christian folks who took this girl in turns my stomach. It is evil.

On several occasions friends of Rifqa would bring her down to the school counselor because of bruises on her legs and her arms, beatings suffered at the hands of her father and brother (sounds like Islam Said). The middle school, in a serious dereliction of duty, did not report these beatings to child welfare services. Beatings were random, violent, unprovoked. Take, for example, when Rifqa and her father Mohammad were driving in the car. He would force her to wear the hijab, which she hated. In her discomfort she would slouch down, embarrassed, and her father would haul off and sock her in the face so that she never forgot to sit up straight in her costume. The beatings were regular and so much a part of the landscape of Rifqa's life that she became inured to them, just like Amina and Sarah and Aqsa and every "honor" victim. (more here)

Rifqa: "He took that laptop and waved it in the air and he was about to beat me with it, and he said, “If you have this Jesus in your heart, you’re dead to me. You’re not my daughter.” And I refused to speak but he said, “I will kill you. Tell me the truth.” In these words, bad words, cuss words. So I knew that I had to get away"



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 06, 2009, 08:25:41 PM
JSM,OMG,they  can't let Fathima leave.She will be killed,I just know it.  ::MonkeyWaa::
I can't even post what I am thinking right now.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 07, 2009, 04:48:13 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: Just found this on Pamela's site Atlas Shrugs

From a pro Islamic website

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/katslater1/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0120a5a8955d970c-.jpg)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-facebook-fatwa-we-need-to-kill-her-.html

I have said from the very first that Rifqa Bary is the highest value target in America. Apostasy is the most egregious crime against Islam. Her crime is not just against the family. it is against Islam.  

I know Ohio law enforcement and Florida law enforcement found no threat to Rifqa, but perhaps they can put down the kool aid for five minutes and do their job.

There is a pro-Islamic site on Facebook that threatens Rifqa Bary with death. Will everyone stop the PC, religion of peace nonsense, pull their heads out of their asses and get serious? Is law enforcement going to stop playing games and protect this young girl or what? Salman Rushdie did far less.

REST HERE......

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-facebook-fatwa-we-need-to-kill-her-.html



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 07, 2009, 05:17:40 PM
::MonkeyEek:: Just found this on Pamela's site Atlas Shrugs

From a pro Islamic website

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/katslater1/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0120a5a8955d970c-.jpg)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-facebook-fatwa-we-need-to-kill-her-.html

I have said from the very first that Rifqa Bary is the highest value target in America. Apostasy is the most egregious crime against Islam. Her crime is not just against the family. it is against Islam.  

I know Ohio law enforcement and Florida law enforcement found no threat to Rifqa, but perhaps they can put down the kool aid for five minutes and do their job.

There is a pro-Islamic site on Facebook that threatens Rifqa Bary with death. Will everyone stop the PC, religion of peace nonsense, pull their heads out of their asses and get serious? Is law enforcement going to stop playing games and protect this young girl or what? Salman Rushdie did far less.

REST HERE......

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-facebook-fatwa-we-need-to-kill-her-.html


WTF, is she being guarded, I mean guarded by police to protect her? And what is bothering me is even if she does not have to go back to her family, I'm afraid she will be hunted down and eventually something very bad is going to happen  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 07, 2009, 05:21:10 PM
::MonkeyEek:: Just found this on Pamela's site Atlas Shrugs

From a pro Islamic website

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s208/katslater1/6a00d8341c60bf53ef0120a5a8955d970c-.jpg)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-facebook-fatwa-we-need-to-kill-her-.html

I have said from the very first that Rifqa Bary is the highest value target in America. Apostasy is the most egregious crime against Islam. Her crime is not just against the family. it is against Islam.  

I know Ohio law enforcement and Florida law enforcement found no threat to Rifqa, but perhaps they can put down the kool aid for five minutes and do their job.

There is a pro-Islamic site on Facebook that threatens Rifqa Bary with death. Will everyone stop the PC, religion of peace nonsense, pull their heads out of their asses and get serious? Is law enforcement going to stop playing games and protect this young girl or what? Salman Rushdie did far less.

REST HERE......

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-facebook-fatwa-we-need-to-kill-her-.html


WTF, is she being guarded, I mean guarded by police to protect her? And what is bothering me is even if she does not have to go back to her family, I'm afraid she will be hunted down and eventually something very bad is going to happen  ::MonkeyNoNo::
All I know is she is in foster care. H*ll NO she isn't being guarded. The FDLE questioned her for hours without her attorney or guardian ad litem and still didn't find cause that her life is in danger.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Ariana on September 07, 2009, 05:25:13 PM
maybe someone should forward this article to Florida's LE and Ohio's too.  I hope the FBI is watching over the groups after her very close.  After all they don't always make it known what they are doing.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 07, 2009, 05:32:41 PM
maybe someone should forward this article to Florida's LE and Ohio's too.  I hope the FBI is watching over the groups after her very close.  After all they don't always make it known what they are doing.
I'm sure Ms Geller has forwarded it to the FBI. She is an amazing tough strong woman with lots of strength. She will let this be known. Believe me.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 07, 2009, 05:41:48 PM
maybe someone should forward this article to Florida's LE and Ohio's too.  I hope the FBI is watching over the groups after her very close.  After all they don't always make it known what they are doing.
Ariana, yes I read in the comments that it was forwarded to the FBI along with all the FB names associated with that FB page.



Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2009, 05:54:58 PM
maybe someone should forward this article to Florida's LE and Ohio's too.  I hope the FBI is watching over the groups after her very close.  After all they don't always make it known what they are doing.
I'm sure Ms Geller has forwarded it to the FBI. She is an amazing tough strong woman with lots of strength. She will let this be known. Believe me.

I hope you are right JSM.This is so disturbing.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 07, 2009, 05:57:09 PM
maybe someone should forward this article to Florida's LE and Ohio's too.  I hope the FBI is watching over the groups after her very close.  After all they don't always make it known what they are doing.
I'm sure Ms Geller has forwarded it to the FBI. She is an amazing tough strong woman with lots of strength. She will let this be known. Believe me.
I read back and the FB site along with all friends on the FB site were sent to the FBI. I just hope they do something about it. I doubt they will though.  ::MonkeyMad::

I hope you are right JSM.This is so disturbing.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 07, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
How can you tell if a mosque is radical? Is there a website?


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on September 10, 2009, 11:37:50 AM
How can you tell if a mosque is radical? Is there a website?

Fanny Mae, it comes from a lot of research into the tenets of Islam.  I suggest that the first thing you need to do is get a copy of the Koran in English and read it.  Then go on from there.

You can also subscribe to Jihadwatch.com.  Daily reports of what is happening in the US and around the world.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on September 10, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
How can you tell if a mosque is radical? Is there a website?

Fanny Mae, it comes from a lot of research into the tenets of Islam.  I suggest that the first thing you need to do is get a copy of the Koran in English and read it.  Then go on from there.

You can also subscribe to Jihadwatch.com.  Daily reports of what is happening in the US and around the world.

FM, It's Jihadwatch.Org


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 10, 2009, 12:33:09 PM
How can you tell if a mosque is radical? Is there a website?
By what they preach, who they are connected to, lots of ways. Look up I think his name is Patrick Poole in Ohio, he has done a lot of reasearch on that mosque up there.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 10, 2009, 12:37:02 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/pamela-geller-interviews-rifqa-barys-best-friend-in-ohio-brian-williams.html

Impromptu and on the fly, I had the good fortune to do an interview with Rifqa Bary's dear friend, Brian Williams. We were exchanging emails on facebook and he was happy to talk to me, as the media was manufacturing a dishonest, anti-Christian, anti-Rifqa narrative. Brian is a missionary and is the Pastor in Ohio who baptized Rifqa this year. He was very much a big brother to her. Williams was very aware of what Rifqa was dealing with.  She lived a double life. A life of constant fear: fear of her father, her family and mosque members.

Click on the above link and listen to the interview or read the transcript at the end of the page. TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 10, 2009, 01:06:30 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/pamela-geller-interviews-rifqa-barys-best-friend-in-ohio-brian-williams.html

Impromptu and on the fly, I had the good fortune to do an interview with Rifqa Bary's dear friend, Brian Williams. We were exchanging emails on facebook and he was happy to talk to me, as the media was manufacturing a dishonest, anti-Christian, anti-Rifqa narrative. Brian is a missionary and is the Pastor in Ohio who baptized Rifqa this year. He was very much a big brother to her. Williams was very aware of what Rifqa was dealing with.  She lived a double life. A life of constant fear: fear of her father, her family and mosque members.

Click on the above link and listen to the interview or read the transcript at the end of the page. TIA JSM
Thanks JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 06:54:04 PM
How can you tell if a mosque is radical? Is there a website?

Fanny Mae, it comes from a lot of research into the tenets of Islam.  I suggest that the first thing you need to do is get a copy of the Koran in English and read it.  Then go on from there.

You can also subscribe to Jihadwatch.com.  Daily reports of what is happening in the US and around the world.

FM, It's Jihadwatch.Org
Thank you BabyBear.


 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 06:54:59 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/pamela-geller-interviews-rifqa-barys-best-friend-in-ohio-brian-williams.html

Impromptu and on the fly, I had the good fortune to do an interview with Rifqa Bary's dear friend, Brian Williams. We were exchanging emails on facebook and he was happy to talk to me, as the media was manufacturing a dishonest, anti-Christian, anti-Rifqa narrative. Brian is a missionary and is the Pastor in Ohio who baptized Rifqa this year. He was very much a big brother to her. Williams was very aware of what Rifqa was dealing with.  She lived a double life. A life of constant fear: fear of her father, her family and mosque members.

Click on the above link and listen to the interview or read the transcript at the end of the page. TIA JSM

Thank You JSM. I read along here but rarely post, but I do follow along and go to the links.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 10, 2009, 08:28:29 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/pamela-geller-interviews-rifqa-barys-best-friend-in-ohio-brian-williams.html

Impromptu and on the fly, I had the good fortune to do an interview with Rifqa Bary's dear friend, Brian Williams. We were exchanging emails on facebook and he was happy to talk to me, as the media was manufacturing a dishonest, anti-Christian, anti-Rifqa narrative. Brian is a missionary and is the Pastor in Ohio who baptized Rifqa this year. He was very much a big brother to her. Williams was very aware of what Rifqa was dealing with.  She lived a double life. A life of constant fear: fear of her father, her family and mosque members.

Click on the above link and listen to the interview or read the transcript at the end of the page. TIA JSM

Thank You JSM. I read along here but rarely post, but I do follow along and go to the links.  ::MonkeyAngel::
Thanks Fanny. No need to post, just read the threads and more importantly PRAY for this little tiny angel. I pray that she is not sent back to her family. She really needs around the clock police protection.

Also, I know you read a lot, get the book Infidel by Aayan Hirsi Ali. I read that book in a day. I am not much of a reader. But read her story. It brings chills up my arms just remembering pieces of that book.

TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 08:39:21 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/pamela-geller-interviews-rifqa-barys-best-friend-in-ohio-brian-williams.html

Impromptu and on the fly, I had the good fortune to do an interview with Rifqa Bary's dear friend, Brian Williams. We were exchanging emails on facebook and he was happy to talk to me, as the media was manufacturing a dishonest, anti-Christian, anti-Rifqa narrative. Brian is a missionary and is the Pastor in Ohio who baptized Rifqa this year. He was very much a big brother to her. Williams was very aware of what Rifqa was dealing with.  She lived a double life. A life of constant fear: fear of her father, her family and mosque members.

Click on the above link and listen to the interview or read the transcript at the end of the page. TIA JSM

Thank You JSM. I read along here but rarely post, but I do follow along and go to the links.  ::MonkeyAngel::
Thanks Fanny. No need to post, just read the threads and more importantly PRAY for this little tiny angel. I pray that she is not sent back to her family. She really needs around the clock police protection.

Also, I know you read a lot, get the book Infidel by Aayan Hirsi Ali. I read that book in a day. I am not much of a reader. But read her story. It brings chills up my arms just remembering pieces of that book.

TIA JSM

Ok. Thanks! I will go online and see if our library has this, and have them put a hold on it for me.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 10, 2009, 08:45:07 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/atlas-radio-tonight-10-est-rifqa-barys-fellow-apostate-and-pastor-jamal-jivanjee-its-an-anne-frank-s.html

I won't be up for this, will have to listen in the morning, but Pamela is interviewing Rifqa's friend Jamal Jivanje who is also an apostate from Islam

Just thought if you monkeys wanted to listen I would give a shout out to Pamela. She has always been a voice for victims honor killings and is a very smart lady to boot. If there was a person JSM would like to be, it would be Pamela Geller. JMO JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 08:46:07 PM
JSM, I looked and my library has it. It will be checked by in by 9/21. They will let me know and have a hold on it for me.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 10, 2009, 08:48:14 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/pamela-geller-interviews-rifqa-barys-best-friend-in-ohio-brian-williams.html

Impromptu and on the fly, I had the good fortune to do an interview with Rifqa Bary's dear friend, Brian Williams. We were exchanging emails on facebook and he was happy to talk to me, as the media was manufacturing a dishonest, anti-Christian, anti-Rifqa narrative. Brian is a missionary and is the Pastor in Ohio who baptized Rifqa this year. He was very much a big brother to her. Williams was very aware of what Rifqa was dealing with.  She lived a double life. A life of constant fear: fear of her father, her family and mosque members.

Click on the above link and listen to the interview or read the transcript at the end of the page. TIA JSM

Thank You JSM. I read along here but rarely post, but I do follow along and go to the links.  ::MonkeyAngel::
Thanks Fanny. No need to post, just read the threads and more importantly PRAY for this little tiny angel. I pray that she is not sent back to her family. She really needs around the clock police protection.

Also, I know you read a lot, get the book Infidel by Aayan Hirsi Ali. I read that book in a day. I am not much of a reader. But read her story. It brings chills up my arms just remembering pieces of that book.

TIA JSM

Ok. Thanks! I will go online and see if our library has this, and have them put a hold on it for me.   ::MonkeyAngel::
I hope they have it so you can read it. Sad thing, I couldn't put it down. It is very disturbing but she is a very strong and beautiful woman.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 10, 2009, 08:50:35 PM
JSM, I looked and my library has it. It will be checked by in by 9/21. They will let me know and have a hold on it for me.   ::MonkeyAngel::
Good. Now I will need a book report once you have finished it. Just kidding. It is a good read and FYI, I am not racist, anti Islamic, etc.

She just tells her story and it is something that needs to be heard.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 02:26:03 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20856500/detail.html
Governor: Handle Runaway Case In Ohio
Teen Says She Fears For Her Life After Converting To Christianity
Daniel Dahm, Staff Writer

POSTED: Friday, September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 2:18 pm EDT September 11, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland said the case of a Muslim girl who ran away to Orlando after converting to Christianity should by handled by Ohio authorities.

Strickland's office said in a statement Friday that the state has no reason to believe that Rifqa Bary, 17, would be unsafe in Ohio.

Strickland said the case belongs in Ohio because it is a family matter that can be handled by the state's child welfare and foster care system.

A Florida judge is deciding whether the 17-year-old girl, currently in foster care in Orlando, should be returned to Ohio.

The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions.

An investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement found no evidence to support the girl's claim.

In court earlier this month, a judge sealed the FDLE's investigation into the case. The judge also issued a gag order for the attorneys involved in the case.

The report is sealed for 10 days to allow the attorneys in the case time to decide whether parts of it require a permanent seal, otherwise it will be made public.

Rifqa's parents' attorneys want the report unsealed. Attorney Roger Weeden said the parents would fin the investigation to be a "very favorable report."

The judge said he felt the gag order will help protect Rifqa and her interests.
The judge maintained his ruling that the jurisdiction in the case will remain in Florida unless a proceeding is opened in Ohio.

Another pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Sept. 29 at 2:30 p.m.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 02:31:45 PM
Rifqa speaks to WFTV
http://www.wftv.com/video/20359480/index.html


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 11, 2009, 02:47:16 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20856500/detail.html
Governor: Handle Runaway Case In Ohio
Teen Says She Fears For Her Life After Converting To Christianity
Daniel Dahm, Staff Writer

POSTED: Friday, September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 2:18 pm EDT September 11, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland said the case of a Muslim girl who ran away to Orlando after converting to Christianity should by handled by Ohio authorities.

Strickland's office said in a statement Friday that the state has no reason to believe that Rifqa Bary, 17, would be unsafe in Ohio.

Strickland said the case belongs in Ohio because it is a family matter that can be handled by the state's child welfare and foster care system.

A Florida judge is deciding whether the 17-year-old girl, currently in foster care in Orlando, should be returned to Ohio.

The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions.

An investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement found no evidence to support the girl's claim.

In court earlier this month, a judge sealed the FDLE's investigation into the case. The judge also issued a gag order for the attorneys involved in the case.

The report is sealed for 10 days to allow the attorneys in the case time to decide whether parts of it require a permanent seal, otherwise it will be made public.

Rifqa's parents' attorneys want the report unsealed. Attorney Roger Weeden said the parents would fin the investigation to be a "very favorable report."

The judge said he felt the gag order will help protect Rifqa and her interests.
The judge maintained his ruling that the jurisdiction in the case will remain in Florida unless a proceeding is opened in Ohio.

Another pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Sept. 29 at 2:30 p.m.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
This girl is going to be dead if she goes back to Ohio.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 03:46:15 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20856500/detail.html
Governor: Handle Runaway Case In Ohio
Teen Says She Fears For Her Life After Converting To Christianity
Daniel Dahm, Staff Writer

POSTED: Friday, September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 2:18 pm EDT September 11, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland said the case of a Muslim girl who ran away to Orlando after converting to Christianity should by handled by Ohio authorities.

Strickland's office said in a statement Friday that the state has no reason to believe that Rifqa Bary, 17, would be unsafe in Ohio.

Strickland said the case belongs in Ohio because it is a family matter that can be handled by the state's child welfare and foster care system.

A Florida judge is deciding whether the 17-year-old girl, currently in foster care in Orlando, should be returned to Ohio.

The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions.

An investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement found no evidence to support the girl's claim.

In court earlier this month, a judge sealed the FDLE's investigation into the case. The judge also issued a gag order for the attorneys involved in the case.

The report is sealed for 10 days to allow the attorneys in the case time to decide whether parts of it require a permanent seal, otherwise it will be made public.

Rifqa's parents' attorneys want the report unsealed. Attorney Roger Weeden said the parents would fin the investigation to be a "very favorable report."

The judge said he felt the gag order will help protect Rifqa and her interests.
The judge maintained his ruling that the jurisdiction in the case will remain in Florida unless a proceeding is opened in Ohio.

Another pretrial hearing has been scheduled for Sept. 29 at 2:30 p.m.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

I can say as an Ohio resident that Strickland is an idiot. Don't blame me. I didn't vote for his crooked azz.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
Rifqa speaks to WFTV
http://www.wftv.com/video/20359480/index.html
Thank you.
I have no doubt her life is in danger.

::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: 7/19/2009-16 year old Fathima Rifqa Bary from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 12, 2009, 07:57:11 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/mohamed-and-aysha-basry-file-complaint-accuses-rifqa-bary-of-being-incorrigble.html

Rifqa's parents whose reputation is questionable have filed a complaint against Rigfqa. The abusive father who used Rifqa's eye loss as a pretext to come into this country and then never did anything about it is filing a claim against Rifqa. The parents that forced her to lie about how she lost her eye. The father that terrorized and threatened to kill her, has filed a complaint against Rifqa.
Read the rest above at the link.....


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 13, 2009, 08:47:53 AM


I changed the topic name so it would be easier to find.



Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 14, 2009, 09:50:56 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-14881-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m9d12-The-Stalking-of-Rifqa-Bary

Please read the whole story at the above link. Very well written piece.

The Rifqa Bary case has had my attention since it began. Rifqa Bary is a seventeen year-old Christian who converted from Islam. Her conversion was displeasing to her family and it became a possible life and death issue when radicals at her father's mosque, Noor Islamic Cultural Center, began to involve themselves.

In a scene worthy of the medieval times, members of the mosque said her father needed to "get her under control." This began the saga we are witnessing today. Rifqa fled to Florida because she feared for her life but her parents claim there was no issue at all. They claim she was brainwashed. I will leave the that for others to fight over. In my opinion, any man in 2009 who demands his wife be covered properly, is probably familiar with brainwashing. For you guys at home, try this on your wife next time you go out.



Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 14, 2009, 11:57:43 AM
 ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198795.php

Terror front CAIR supervised police interview of Rifqa Bary's parents on abuse allegations
A report by the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (FDLE) that has been sealed by the court investigating the Rifqa Bary abuse and honor killing allegations is set to be released today. While the report is still sealed, we can report based on law enforcement sources who have read the report that the FDLE interview of Rifqa's parents was supervised by Hamas front organization, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). According to my sources, this is what the report says:



Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2009, 03:28:59 PM
::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198795.php

Terror front CAIR supervised police interview of Rifqa Bary's parents on abuse allegations
A report by the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (FDLE) that has been sealed by the court investigating the Rifqa Bary abuse and honor killing allegations is set to be released today. While the report is still sealed, we can report based on law enforcement sources who have read the report that the FDLE interview of Rifqa's parents was supervised by Hamas front organization, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). According to my sources, this is what the report says:




 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 14, 2009, 03:32:31 PM
::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198795.php

Terror front CAIR supervised police interview of Rifqa Bary's parents on abuse allegations
A report by the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (FDLE) that has been sealed by the court investigating the Rifqa Bary abuse and honor killing allegations is set to be released today. While the report is still sealed, we can report based on law enforcement sources who have read the report that the FDLE interview of Rifqa's parents was supervised by Hamas front organization, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). According to my sources, this is what the report says:




 ::MonkeyMad::

Oh good grief! This keeps getting worse by the day.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Sister on September 14, 2009, 03:33:05 PM
::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198795.php

Terror front CAIR supervised police interview of Rifqa Bary's parents on abuse allegations
A report by the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (FDLE) that has been sealed by the court investigating the Rifqa Bary abuse and honor killing allegations is set to be released today. While the report is still sealed, we can report based on law enforcement sources who have read the report that the FDLE interview of Rifqa's parents was supervised by Hamas front organization, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). According to my sources, this is what the report says:


 ::MonkeyMad::

Trimm, I am so concerned for this young lady's life. 
 :smt012
Many, many prayers!


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2009, 05:51:33 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20909772/detail.html
FDLE: No Evidence Of Religious Runaway's Claims
Rifqa Bary Says Her Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 5:10 pm EDT September 14, 2009
UPDATED: 5:28 pm EDT September 14, 2009
A report from the Florida Department of Law does not support claims made by a teenage runaway that her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.

A Florida judge is deciding whether 17-year-old Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, should be returned to Ohio. She is currently in foster care in Florida. The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions. She has said her father had threatened to kill her with a lap top and that Islamic law requires he kill her.

Gov. Charlie Crist asked the FDL to investigate that claim and the FDLE said it found no assault charges filed against Mohamed Bary and no derogatory information against him.

The Barys have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2009, 05:52:47 PM
::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198795.php

Terror front CAIR supervised police interview of Rifqa Bary's parents on abuse allegations
A report by the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (FDLE) that has been sealed by the court investigating the Rifqa Bary abuse and honor killing allegations is set to be released today. While the report is still sealed, we can report based on law enforcement sources who have read the report that the FDLE interview of Rifqa's parents was supervised by Hamas front organization, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). According to my sources, this is what the report says:


 ::MonkeyMad::

Trimm, I am so concerned for this young lady's life. 
 :smt012
Many, many prayers!


Everyday,Sister.     ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 14, 2009, 06:00:43 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20909772/detail.html
FDLE: No Evidence Of Religious Runaway's Claims
Rifqa Bary Says Her Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 5:10 pm EDT September 14, 2009
UPDATED: 5:28 pm EDT September 14, 2009
A report from the Florida Department of Law does not support claims made by a teenage runaway that her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.

A Florida judge is deciding whether 17-year-old Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, should be returned to Ohio. She is currently in foster care in Florida. The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions. She has said her father had threatened to kill her with a lap top and that Islamic law requires he kill her.

Gov. Charlie Crist asked the FDL to investigate that claim and the FDLE said it found no assault charges filed against Mohamed Bary and no derogatory information against him.

The Barys have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.
OH SH*T that could be why Pamela posted this http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/postponing-rifqa.html

Rifqa Bary's pre-trial hearing scheduled for the September 29th was postponed ............. I will keep you posted.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2009, 06:06:53 PM
Thanks,JSM.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2009, 06:18:41 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20909772/detail.html
FDLE: No Evidence Of Religious Runaway's Claims
Rifqa Bary Says Her Father Threatened To Kill Her

A report from the Florida Department of Law does not support claims made by a teenage runaway that her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.

A Florida judge is deciding whether 17-year-old Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, should be returned to Ohio. She is currently in foster care in Florida. The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions. She has said her father -- Mohamed Bary -- had assaulted her and threatened to kill her and that Islamic law requires he kill her for converting to Christianity in an "honor killing." She also said she was a victim of long term abuse.
Gov. Charlie Crist asked the FDLE to investigate those claims. In a report, the FDLE said it found no evidence backing up any of them up. Specifically, the FDLE said no assault charges were ever filed against Bary, it found no evidence of any planned "honor killing" and that Rifqa's older brother said he never saw either of their parents physically abuse her.

The FDLE also found that Rifqa's bus ticket from Ohio to Orlando was bought in Orlando, but they did not say who bought that ticket.

The Barys have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 14, 2009, 06:30:26 PM
This is all going to end up badly.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2009, 06:30:34 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20909730/detail.html
Report Shows Teen Convert May Have Been Lured

Posted: 5:09 pm EDT September 14, 2009Updated: 5:38 pm EDT September 14, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A 17-year-old girl said she ran for her life from her own family after she converted from Islam to Christianity, but a new report released from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement suggests, Rifqa Bary may have been lured to Florida.

A judge had sealed the FDLE report on Rifqa Bary's case for 10 days.

Initially, Bary said she hitch-hiked to a Greyhound station from her home in Ohio and just "ended up" at an Orlando pastor's house.
Bary's parents have maintained all along their daughter was brainwashed and manipulated. But the new FDLE report shows someone in Orlando bought her the bus ticket.

A report released by FDLE says the Ohio teenager, who ran away to Florida, may have not been forthcoming with investigators. The report was unable to find any evidence to back up many of Rifqa Bary's claims, including allegations of abuse.

Bary told agents that a former teacher knew her life was in danger because she converted to Christianity so she offered her a place to stay.

But according to the FDLE report, the teacher had no idea about the threats. The teacher said she offered Bary a place to stay because Bary's brother was having parties with alcohol at the house while the parents were out of town.

FDLE also revealed someone with a fake name in Orlando purchased a bus ticket for Bary to get to Florida. Bary initially said she hitch-hiked and then got on the Greyhound bus. But investigators say a young pastor drove her to the bus station and then Orlando Pastor Blake Lorenz picked her up from the bus stop.

The report does not say Lorenz or the church the ministers were instrumental in getting the teen to Orlando.

One of the parents' attorney commented about the report during a September 3 hearing.

"We have a favorable report. There are indications there is no evidence of these allegations," an attorney stated.

The parents' attorneys have filed a motion to dismiss the case and hope to schedule the hearing next week.

Transcripts of Rifqa Bary's interview are sealed until next Tuesday.

WFTV.com will post the FDLE report as soon as it becomes available.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 14, 2009, 06:36:42 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20909730/detail.html
Report Shows Teen Convert May Have Been Lured

Posted: 5:09 pm EDT September 14, 2009Updated: 5:38 pm EDT September 14, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A 17-year-old girl said she ran for her life from her own family after she converted from Islam to Christianity, but a new report released from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement suggests, Rifqa Bary may have been lured to Florida.

A judge had sealed the FDLE report on Rifqa Bary's case for 10 days.

Initially, Bary said she hitch-hiked to a Greyhound station from her home in Ohio and just "ended up" at an Orlando pastor's house.
Bary's parents have maintained all along their daughter was brainwashed and manipulated. But the new FDLE report shows someone in Orlando bought her the bus ticket.

A report released by FDLE says the Ohio teenager, who ran away to Florida, may have not been forthcoming with investigators. The report was unable to find any evidence to back up many of Rifqa Bary's claims, including allegations of abuse.

Bary told agents that a former teacher knew her life was in danger because she converted to Christianity so she offered her a place to stay.

But according to the FDLE report, the teacher had no idea about the threats. The teacher said she offered Bary a place to stay because Bary's brother was having parties with alcohol at the house while the parents were out of town.

FDLE also revealed someone with a fake name in Orlando purchased a bus ticket for Bary to get to Florida. Bary initially said she hitch-hiked and then got on the Greyhound bus. But investigators say a young pastor drove her to the bus station and then Orlando Pastor Blake Lorenz picked her up from the bus stop.

The report does not say Lorenz or the church the ministers were instrumental in getting the teen to Orlando.

One of the parents' attorney commented about the report during a September 3 hearing.

"We have a favorable report. There are indications there is no evidence of these allegations," an attorney stated.

The parents' attorneys have filed a motion to dismiss the case and hope to schedule the hearing next week.

Transcripts of Rifqa Bary's interview are sealed until next Tuesday.

WFTV.com will post the FDLE report as soon as it becomes available.
Sorry, I'm not buying anything that is reported anymore on this case. I believe that the media is afraid of CAIR in both Ohio and Florida.

It is okay to rag on Christians in the media, but they always take the side of Islam because that is the PC/liberal bias in the media.

I hope to God, something is done for this girl and she left in foster care until she is 18. Anyone know at what age in Florida a child can become an empancipated minor?


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 14, 2009, 06:48:02 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/hijabed-journalism-christianophobe-heagney-in-the-columbus-dispatch-ignores-the-crux-of-rifqa-bary-c.html

Another propaganda piece by the hijab-wearing Meredith Heagney in the Columbus Dispatch *sigh*. 
She kicks off her Christian hit piece inside Pastor Blake Lorenz's church. It smacks of mockery and contempt for Christianity. Here is the opening paragraph:

Amid a holy war


The pastor lay facedown on the living room floor, placed his hands over his eyes and pleaded with God to help Fathima Rifqa Bary. About 20 people joined the Rev. Blake Lorenz in the Orlando, Fla., home. They prayed for Rifqa's peace of mind and safety.

Please read the link above. The MEDIA S*CKS in this case. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2009, 07:46:24 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-fdle-report-091409,0,2266241.story
Fathima Rifqa Bary: No credible reports of threats toward Rifqa, FDLE says
In an investigative report unsealed today, FDLE did not discover any threats toward Rifqa Bary or her family in Ohio
(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-09/49054276.jpg)
With tears running down her cheeks, Fathima Rifqa Bary, 17, is comforted by DCF caseworker Maxine Kisimbi during a tense legal exchange at a hearing before Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson at the Thomas S. Kirk Juvenile Justice Center in Orlando. (RICARDO RAMIREZ BUXEDA, ORLANDO SENTINEL / September 3, 2009)


Amy L. Edwards Sentinel Staff Writer

6:19 p.m. EDT, September 14,2009
Agents with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement found there have been no credible reports of threats toward teenage runaway Fathima Rifqa Bary, according to an agency report released late this afternoon.

The much-anticipated FDLE report was released after an Orange County judge rescinded a previously-ordered seal on the document. It had been sealed for nearly two weeks.

Rifqa's case made international headlines after she ran away from her home near Columbus, Ohio, and sought shelter with an Orlando family.

Rifqa, 17, has said she ran away out of fear that she would be harmed or killed by her Muslim family because she converted to Christianity.

The seven-page investigative summary released today includes interviews with several people, including Rifqa's father, who has denied threatening his daughter.

". . . FDLE's inquiry to date has failed to reveal any evidence of a conspiracy to commit, solicitation to commit, attempt or other efforts to commit any such action or other violence against her," the report said.

FDLE agents interviewed Rifqa on Aug. 21. Rifqa said she would become the victim of an "honor killing" by her family or someone else because of her conversion.

Other than her father, Rifqa didn't identify any specific people who have verbally or physically threatened her with death, the report said.

Among the highlights in the report:
-- The Islamic community was not investigated. "An investigation into any person, religious or social organization without a specific identifiable criminal predicate is inappropriate," the report said.

Investigators checked with local, state and federal authorities in Columbus and Orlando and "have not been made aware of any identifiable threat."

-- Rifqa told investigators she had been abused by her father throughout her childhood, but her parents and older brother denied such allegations or using any harsh punishment.

A school official said the district had no records of alleged abuse either.

-- Rifqa told investigators a high school teacher had offered to house her in the event that she "needed to escape repercussions from her family due to her Christian religious beliefs.

Investigators questioned that teacher, who told them she wasn't aware of any danger toward Rifqa. The teacher said she made the offer to Rifqa because her brother was having parties at the house when the Barys were out of town and the teacher was concerned for Rifqa's safety in that environment.

-- Rifqa told investigators she hitchhiked from a neighbor's house to the Columbus Greyhound bus station July 20. She arranged for a ticket through Christian associates she met through Facebook.

But Brian Williams, who baptized Rifqa, told investigators he picked Rifqa up from a residence and drove her to the station. He said Rifqa has preplanned spots around the country -- including in Georgia -- where she could flee. "Mr. Williams referred to the preplanning locations as . . .'fire drills.'"

-- Rifqa's bus ticket was purchased in Orlando under a fictitious name. The report does not say who purchased it.

"FDLE's investigation has not developed any information which supports an allegation of criminal activity in the state of Florida," the report said. "Furthermore, our investigation has provided no clear evidence of criminal activity in other states which may be supportive of the above allegations."
Rifqa remains in state foster care in Florida.

Check back for updates.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 14, 2009, 08:05:17 PM
Thanks Trimm for that last post. I am so sick of the press saying Evangelical's have turned this girl against her family.

I don't care if she became Hindu, Catholic, Evangelical, Athiest or decided to worship Satan.

She is in fear, she is an apostate and in Islam, the penalty for apostasy is DEATH. So no matter her choice of religion unless she returns to Islam. She has every reason to fear death. Either at the hands of her father, brother or even her mother.

Her parents are evidently very religious and I don't trust them with Rifqa's life. I don't trust the media, I don't trust LE, and I don't trust the people in charge of the investigation.

I just pray and hope that she is safe and kept from harm. I remember Sarah and Amina every day. I drive by every day the place their bodies were found and I DON'T won't that to happen to this little girl.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 14, 2009, 11:25:04 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/14/documents_in_runaway_teen_case_to_be_released.html
 FDLE Report: Runaway Teen Lied To Investigators
Monday, September 14, 2009 10:20:59 PM
Reported By Adam Longo

ORLANDO -- The Ohio teen who ran away from her Muslim home after converting to Christianity apparently lied to state investigators.

However, one of the groups that has infused itself into her cause is accusing state agents of not thoroughly doing their jobs.

Tom Trento with the Florida Security Council calls a  seven page report of investigative findings from Florida Department of Law Enforcement "complete nonsense."

Even though, agents interviewed Rifqa Bary and then sought out to confirm or deny the allegations she made.

In the report, investigators discuss Rifqa's claims that she was assaulted by her father, threatened with death and was the victim of long-term child abuse.

Investigators found absolutely no credible reports of threats and no "derogatory" information based on the allegations after interviewing her siblings, people at her school and others involved in her life.

But those fighting for Rifqa to stay in Florida said the report is "incomplete,” deficient and they accuse FDLE agents of not grasping the seriousness of her situation.
“The investigators here are going to be very embarrassed when this comes to trial because expert witnesses will be brought in to completely overwhelm these investigators and their methods employed by these FDLE folks,” Trento said.

Rifqa was interviewed by investigators on Aug. 21. She told them she hitchhiked from a neighbor’s house to the Greyhound bus station in Columbus for her trip to Orlando.

It turns out a man who baptized her in Ohio is the one who drove her to the bus station.

Then, investigators learned her bus ticket was actually bought in Orlando under a fictitious name.

So what's next in this case?

Lawyers for Rifqa’s parents have filed a motion to dismiss the dependency hearing. It could be heard as early as next week.

If it’s dismissed, this could clear the way for Rifqa to return to Ohio with her family.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 15, 2009, 08:56:20 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20910018/detail.html
FDLE: No Threat To Runaway Convert
Report Says Teen Lied About Travel To Central Fla.

POSTED: Monday, September 14, 2009
UPDATED: 8:14 am EDT September 15, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Florida Department of Law Enforcement's report on runaway convert Rifqa Bary was released Monday afternoon, and it said there is no evidence to support a threat to the girl's life.
Video.No threat To Girl.   http://www.clickorlando.com/video/20920147/index.html
PDF.  FDLE.  http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0914/20911417.pdf
The report was sealed by a judge for 10 days, but was released when the seal expired.

According to the FDLE's investigation, the 17-year-old was not honest with investigators about how she got to Orlando from her Columbus home.

Rifqa's story became national news after she claimed she left her home because her Muslim father threatened to kill her for converting to Christianity.

Rifqa said her father had punched her for not wearing a traditional head scarf, and on another occasion threatened to hit and kill her with a laptop computer for lying. FDLE said none of those claims could be substantiated. Rifqa's family has repeatedly denied the claims.

The teen told authorities she hitchhiked to a Greyhound Bus station, and used money she had saved up to buy a ticket to Orlando, but the FDLE said that is not the case.

According to the report, officials from the locally operated Global Revolution Church likely helped Rifqa get to Central Florida by funding her travel arrangements and housing her in Central Florida for two weeks.

Rifqa is with a foster family in Central Florida while awaiting mediation.
The Department of Children and Families said they do not support a rapid reunification for the family. DCF is waiting for further direction from the court.

It is not clear if members of the church who helped transport and house the teen will face any charges.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 10:32:08 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20910018/detail.html
FDLE: No Threat To Runaway Convert
Report Says Teen Lied About Travel To Central Fla.

POSTED: Monday, September 14, 2009
UPDATED: 8:14 am EDT September 15, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Florida Department of Law Enforcement's report on runaway convert Rifqa Bary was released Monday afternoon, and it said there is no evidence to support a threat to the girl's life.
Video.No threat To Girl.   http://www.clickorlando.com/video/20920147/index.html
PDF.  FDLE.  http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0914/20911417.pdf
The report was sealed by a judge for 10 days, but was released when the seal expired.

According to the FDLE's investigation, the 17-year-old was not honest with investigators about how she got to Orlando from her Columbus home.

Rifqa's story became national news after she claimed she left her home because her Muslim father threatened to kill her for converting to Christianity.

Rifqa said her father had punched her for not wearing a traditional head scarf, and on another occasion threatened to hit and kill her with a laptop computer for lying. FDLE said none of those claims could be substantiated. Rifqa's family has repeatedly denied the claims.

The teen told authorities she hitchhiked to a Greyhound Bus station, and used money she had saved up to buy a ticket to Orlando, but the FDLE said that is not the case.

According to the report, officials from the locally operated Global Revolution Church likely helped Rifqa get to Central Florida by funding her travel arrangements and housing her in Central Florida for two weeks.

Rifqa is with a foster family in Central Florida while awaiting mediation.
The Department of Children and Families said they do not support a rapid reunification for the family. DCF is waiting for further direction from the court.

It is not clear if members of the church who helped transport and house the teen will face any charges.
This poor girl has no chance. I see her as another victim like Sarah and Amina and Aqza and the rest of the honor killings. Pray Monkeys Pray!!! 


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 15, 2009, 10:38:22 AM
I agree JSM, and I also think she will be sent home to her family  ::MonkeyNoNo::  What else is this poor girl going to do? If the judge decides she is going to have to go home, she can hardly run, she has no means of support. Awful situation, and I do hope the right thing is done.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 15, 2009, 01:59:56 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20909772/detail.html
FDLE: No Evidence Of Religious Runaway's Claims
Rifqa Bary Says Her Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 5:10 pm EDT September 14, 2009
UPDATED: 11:27 am EDT September 15, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement does not support claims made by a teenage runaway that her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.

A Florida judge is deciding whether 17-year-old Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, should be returned to Ohio. She is currently in foster care in Florida.
The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus, Ohio, home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions. She has said her father, Mohamed Bary, had assaulted her and threatened to kill her and that Islamic law requires he kill her for converting to Christianity in an "honor killing." She also said she was a victim of long-term abuse.

Gov. Charlie Crist asked the FDLE to investigate those claims. In a report, the FDLE said it found no evidence backing up any of them up. Specifically, the FDLE said no assault charges were ever filed against Bary, it found no evidence of any planned "honor killing" and that Rifqa's older brother said he never saw either of their parents physically abuse her.

The FDLE also found that Rifqa's bus ticket from Ohio to Orlando was bought in Orlando, but it did not say who bought that ticket.

The Barys have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.

Muslim leaders in Central Florida said they are not surprised.

"We are looking at the story of a typical teenager who has minor issues with her parents and the teenager exaggerates the story to justify her running away," Imam Musri Muhammad of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.
The Florida Security Council, however, called FDLE's report a "travesty" of justice and "an investigative farce."

The case is set to be back in court on September 29.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 02:15:09 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20909772/detail.html
FDLE: No Evidence Of Religious Runaway's Claims
Rifqa Bary Says Her Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 5:10 pm EDT September 14, 2009
UPDATED: 11:27 am EDT September 15, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement does not support claims made by a teenage runaway that her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.

A Florida judge is deciding whether 17-year-old Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, should be returned to Ohio. She is currently in foster care in Florida.
The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus, Ohio, home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions. She has said her father, Mohamed Bary, had assaulted her and threatened to kill her and that Islamic law requires he kill her for converting to Christianity in an "honor killing." She also said she was a victim of long-term abuse.

Gov. Charlie Crist asked the FDLE to investigate those claims. In a report, the FDLE said it found no evidence backing up any of them up. Specifically, the FDLE said no assault charges were ever filed against Bary, it found no evidence of any planned "honor killing" and that Rifqa's older brother said he never saw either of their parents physically abuse her.

The FDLE also found that Rifqa's bus ticket from Ohio to Orlando was bought in Orlando, but it did not say who bought that ticket.

The Barys have repeatedly denied threatening their daughter, saying that they love her and want her to come home.

Muslim leaders in Central Florida said they are not surprised.

"We are looking at the story of a typical teenager who has minor issues with her parents and the teenager exaggerates the story to justify her running away," Imam Musri Muhammad of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.
The Florida Security Council, however, called FDLE's report a "travesty" of justice and "an investigative farce."

The case is set to be back in court on September 29.  


  ::MonkeyMad:: TAQQIYA coming from the Muslim leaders.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 15, 2009, 05:25:31 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20909772/detail.html
FDLE: No Evidence Of Religious Runaway's Claims
Rifqa Bary Says Her Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 5:10 pm EDT September 14, 2009
UPDATED: 4:25 pm EDT September 15, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement does not support claims made by a teenage runaway that her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.

A Florida judge is deciding whether 17-year-old Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, should be returned to Ohio. She is currently in foster care in Florida.

The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus, Ohio, home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions. She has said her father, Mohamed Bary, had assaulted her and threatened to kill her and that Islamic law requires he kill her for converting to Christianity in an "honor killing." She also said she was a victim of long-term abuse.

Gov. Charlie Crist asked the FDLE to investigate those claims. In a report, the FDLE said it found no evidence backing up any of them up. Specifically, the FDLE said no assault charges were ever filed against Bary, it found no evidence of any planned "honor killing" and that Rifqa's older brother said he never saw either of their parents physically abuse her.

The FDLE also found that Rifqa's bus ticket from Ohio to Orlando was bought in Orlando under a fictitious name.
Blake and Beverly Lorenz, founders of the Global Revolution Church in Orlando, were originally credited with bringing Rifqa to Orlando. They have said that they did not buy her bus ticket, however.

The couple could not be reached for further comment. Their church no longer meets at a local movie theater.

Muslim leaders in Central Florida said they are not surprised by the report.

"We are looking at the story of a typical teenager who has minor issues with her parents and the teenager exaggerates the story to justify her running away," Imam Musri Muhammad of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.

The Florida Security Council, however, called FDLE's report a "travesty" of justice and "an investigative farce."

Crist's office said the governor was concerned for the safety of the teenager, and now it is up to the courts to decide what is in her best interest.

The case is set to be back in court on September 29.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 06:05:48 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20909772/detail.html
FDLE: No Evidence Of Religious Runaway's Claims
Rifqa Bary Says Her Father Threatened To Kill Her

POSTED: 5:10 pm EDT September 14, 2009
UPDATED: 4:25 pm EDT September 15, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement does not support claims made by a teenage runaway that her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.

A Florida judge is deciding whether 17-year-old Fathima Bary, who is known as Rifqa, should be returned to Ohio. She is currently in foster care in Florida.

The girl ran away from her parents' suburban Columbus, Ohio, home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions. She has said her father, Mohamed Bary, had assaulted her and threatened to kill her and that Islamic law requires he kill her for converting to Christianity in an "honor killing." She also said she was a victim of long-term abuse.

Gov. Charlie Crist asked the FDLE to investigate those claims. In a report, the FDLE said it found no evidence backing up any of them up. Specifically, the FDLE said no assault charges were ever filed against Bary, it found no evidence of any planned "honor killing" and that Rifqa's older brother said he never saw either of their parents physically abuse her.

The FDLE also found that Rifqa's bus ticket from Ohio to Orlando was bought in Orlando under a fictitious name.
Blake and Beverly Lorenz, founders of the Global Revolution Church in Orlando, were originally credited with bringing Rifqa to Orlando. They have said that they did not buy her bus ticket, however.

The couple could not be reached for further comment. Their church no longer meets at a local movie theater.

Muslim leaders in Central Florida said they are not surprised by the report.

"We are looking at the story of a typical teenager who has minor issues with her parents and the teenager exaggerates the story to justify her running away," Imam Musri Muhammad of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said.

The Florida Security Council, however, called FDLE's report a "travesty" of justice and "an investigative farce."

Crist's office said the governor was concerned for the safety of the teenager, and now it is up to the courts to decide what is in her best interest.

The case is set to be back in court on September 29.

I agree with Fla Security Council the FDLE report is a travesty of justice, because her attorney and attorney ad litem were not with her during this interview. FDLE and the justice system is throwing this poor child to the wolves.  ::MonkeyMad:: I think I will have a ML now, it is after Five.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 15, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
TWO STORIES posted in ONE day

This is what Rifqa is going to live/die through if they send her back to Ohio. I am not a smart monkey, but Pamela says very articulately what JSM cannot  

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/another-islamic-sharia-honor-killing-in-italy-father-stabs-18-year-old-daughter-to-death.html

Sep 15. - An 18 year old Muslim girl died this evening after being repeatedly stabbed with a knife in a grove of Montereale Valcellina, in the province of Pordenone. From information collected from witnesses who were there the girl, who lived to Azzano Decimo (Pordenone), was found dead with numerous stab wounds.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/uk-toughens-stand-on-islamic-honor-killings-doubles-numer-of-prosecutors-forced-marriage-unit-handle.html

Honor killings are at record levels and increasing in the UK as the continued islamisation of the once great Britain continues apace. Late last year legislation was enacted to counter the rise in honor killings


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 16, 2009, 05:02:14 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/new-video-of-rifqa-bary-my-parents-are-radical-radical-muslims.html

Watch this BRAND NEW VIDEO of Rifqa Bary (transcribing right now with Ken's help). This was before she had to run, before the summer 2009 when her dad had promised to kill her if she "had Jesus in her heart". Watch it, it's very ..........revealing. All Exclusive Atlas Rifqa coverage here. (vid hat tip Dutch)

Rifqa: I am sixteen and I love Jesus, um...  crazy how I found the Lord but, people were blown away but, my parents are Muslims, radical, radical Muslims. You guys don't know the history of Islam, it's really hostile towards Christianity and the mere word of Christian can bring such a hatred in them right. I'm a secret Christian, I've been hiding for a long time, three of four years. They can't know of my faith, because if they do know, the consequences are really hard. Just the culture and background they come from like, is so hostile towards Christianity ....the consequences are great.

This video was filmed by Minister Joe of P4CM in May of 2009 while Rifqa was in Ohio.

See the video by following the link above.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 16, 2009, 07:13:47 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-runaway-computer-091609,0,4480569.story
Fathima Rifqa Bary: Rifqa's personal writings indicate she wants to be a prophet
Ohio runaway Rifqa Bary wants to spread the gospel to 'pagans,' according to her writings that her father shared with Sentinel
Rene Stutzman and Amy L. Edwards  Sentinel Staff Writers

6:52 p.m. EDT, September 16, 2009
A Muslim girl who gave her heart to Jesus and then ran away to Christian evangelists in Orlando is not just any Christian. She is driven to save souls and prays that God will make her a prophet.

That's according to writings she left behind when she fled.

"Lord is preparing me and He has me hidden . . . until the time is right," Fathima Rifqa Bary wrote in a computer entry obtained by the Orlando Sentinel. "I am called to the nations. Send me to the deepest darkest places into the pagan land."

Rifqa, 17, lives with a foster family in the Orlando area. She fled here, she insists, because her father threatened to kill her for abandoning Islam.

There's no evidence of that, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and child welfare officials in Columbus, but her claim -- and her wrenching, tearful YouTube video -- have prompted a firestorm of response. Thousands of people have weighed in, most insisting that if Florida officials send her back to Ohio she'll face certain death.

After Rifqa disappeared on July 19, her family searched for clues about why she left. They found a computer flash drive and were stunned by what they read.

Contents of the flash drive were given by Mohamed Bary to the Council on American-Islamic Relations of Columbus, who shared parts of it with the Sentinel. Bary authorized publication.

The writings reveal a young woman who has embraced fundamentalist Christianity, who has stood outside an abortion clinic, duct tape across her mouth, alongside other protesters, and who has dreamed about Armageddon.
She must convert her family to Christianity, she wrote, including her older brother, Rilvan, 18, who worships "demonic music."

She must approach strangers and talk about Jesus. She saved a list of tips on how to do that: "Do NOT be sneaky," she wrote. "Sit down . . . get to know them . . . (Ask) would you mind for 5 min if I share the gospel with you."

She compared herself to the Old Testament heroine Esther and wrote out or saved religious pep talks.

"What does it take to be a prophet?" she wrote. "If I am a friend of God I can be prophetic. . . . You have to want it. Everyday pray for prophesy."

Also on the flash drive is 250 pages of Facebook preaching and blogging by a young Columbus evangelist, Brian Michael Williams, 23, a former Ohio State University sociology student and Rifqa's religious mentor, according to Mohamed Bary, her father.

Those are the writings that most trouble Rifqa's father, he said.

Williams prays with people by "laying my hands on the [computer] monitor and prophesying," Williams wrote. He calls the founder of Planned Parenthood a racist Nazi, does not believe in evolution, speaks in tongues, and criticizes mainstream Christians as following a "demonic doctrine" for being spiritually lethargic and failing to evangelize.

Williams baptized Rifqa in a creek near her home in June, he said, and helped her run away -- unwittingly, he insists -- by driving her to the Greyhound bus station in downtown Columbus.

To Rifqa's father, Williams is a Christian extremist who turned Rifqa against her family and put lies in her head.

Williams said that's not true. Rifqa, he said, is the one who convinced him that because her father was a Muslim, Mohamed Bary must kill her to preserve the family's honor.

"I really appreciate Rifqa's courage, and she's been an inspiration to me," Williams said in a phone interview this week from Kansas City.
Rifqa's attorney, John Stemberger, and her guardian ad litem, Krista Bartholomew, were prohibited from commenting on the writings because of a gag order issued by Orange Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson.

In the past week, Rifqa's parents have launched a new strategy to get their daughter returned to Ohio and placed in its foster care system. There are now two juvenile court cases pending in Columbus. Last week, her father filed one, asking a judge to declare his daughter incorrigible for repeatedly being disobedient.

Someone else on Monday filed a separate petition naming Rifqa, something that could give a Franklin County judge the authority to determine where and with whom she lives. The Franklin County, Ohio, clerk of courts office would not identify the petitioner.

Amy L. Edwards of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Rene Stutzman can be reached at rstutzman@orlandosentinel.com or 407-650-6394.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 16, 2009, 07:32:16 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-runaway-computer-091609,0,4480569.story
Fathima Rifqa Bary: Rifqa's personal writings indicate she wants to be a prophet
Ohio runaway Rifqa Bary wants to spread the gospel to 'pagans,' according to her writings that her father shared with Sentinel
Rene Stutzman and Amy L. Edwards  Sentinel Staff Writers

6:52 p.m. EDT, September 16, 2009
A Muslim girl who gave her heart to Jesus and then ran away to Christian evangelists in Orlando is not just any Christian. She is driven to save souls and prays that God will make her a prophet.

That's according to writings she left behind when she fled.

"Lord is preparing me and He has me hidden . . . until the time is right," Fathima Rifqa Bary wrote in a computer entry obtained by the Orlando Sentinel. "I am called to the nations. Send me to the deepest darkest places into the pagan land."

Rifqa, 17, lives with a foster family in the Orlando area. She fled here, she insists, because her father threatened to kill her for abandoning Islam.

There's no evidence of that, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and child welfare officials in Columbus, but her claim -- and her wrenching, tearful YouTube video -- have prompted a firestorm of response. Thousands of people have weighed in, most insisting that if Florida officials send her back to Ohio she'll face certain death.

After Rifqa disappeared on July 19, her family searched for clues about why she left. They found a computer flash drive and were stunned by what they read.

Contents of the flash drive were given by Mohamed Bary to the Council on American-Islamic Relations of Columbus, who shared parts of it with the Sentinel. Bary authorized publication.

The writings reveal a young woman who has embraced fundamentalist Christianity, who has stood outside an abortion clinic, duct tape across her mouth, alongside other protesters, and who has dreamed about Armageddon.
She must convert her family to Christianity, she wrote, including her older brother, Rilvan, 18, who worships "demonic music."

She must approach strangers and talk about Jesus. She saved a list of tips on how to do that: "Do NOT be sneaky," she wrote. "Sit down . . . get to know them . . . (Ask) would you mind for 5 min if I share the gospel with you."

She compared herself to the Old Testament heroine Esther and wrote out or saved religious pep talks.

"What does it take to be a prophet?" she wrote. "If I am a friend of God I can be prophetic. . . . You have to want it. Everyday pray for prophesy."

Also on the flash drive is 250 pages of Facebook preaching and blogging by a young Columbus evangelist, Brian Michael Williams, 23, a former Ohio State University sociology student and Rifqa's religious mentor, according to Mohamed Bary, her father.

Those are the writings that most trouble Rifqa's father, he said.

Williams prays with people by "laying my hands on the [computer] monitor and prophesying," Williams wrote. He calls the founder of Planned Parenthood a racist Nazi, does not believe in evolution, speaks in tongues, and criticizes mainstream Christians as following a "demonic doctrine" for being spiritually lethargic and failing to evangelize.

Williams baptized Rifqa in a creek near her home in June, he said, and helped her run away -- unwittingly, he insists -- by driving her to the Greyhound bus station in downtown Columbus.

To Rifqa's father, Williams is a Christian extremist who turned Rifqa against her family and put lies in her head.

Williams said that's not true. Rifqa, he said, is the one who convinced him that because her father was a Muslim, Mohamed Bary must kill her to preserve the family's honor.

"I really appreciate Rifqa's courage, and she's been an inspiration to me," Williams said in a phone interview this week from Kansas City.
Rifqa's attorney, John Stemberger, and her guardian ad litem, Krista Bartholomew, were prohibited from commenting on the writings because of a gag order issued by Orange Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson.

In the past week, Rifqa's parents have launched a new strategy to get their daughter returned to Ohio and placed in its foster care system. There are now two juvenile court cases pending in Columbus. Last week, her father filed one, asking a judge to declare his daughter incorrigible for repeatedly being disobedient.

Someone else on Monday filed a separate petition naming Rifqa, something that could give a Franklin County judge the authority to determine where and with whom she lives. The Franklin County, Ohio, clerk of courts office would not identify the petitioner.

Amy L. Edwards of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Rene Stutzman can be reached at rstutzman@orlandosentinel.com or 407-650-6394.
WTF is the Sentinel playing at? HOW do we know this was written by Rifqa? WHY would Mohammed give it to CAIR instead of to the police? Hmmmm. Sounds to me like someone wrote some chit to make it look like Rifqa wrote it. Is there a date stamp on her "writings"? Or is this more Taqqiya and Kitman CAIR is using?    ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 17, 2009, 11:41:43 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20964594/detail.html
Bary's Writings Found On Flash Drive
Sentinel Obtains Religious Runaway's Writings From Father

POSTED: 10:44 am EDT September 17, 2009
UPDATED: 11:21 am EDT September 17, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- In newly-released documents, Fathima Bary compared herself to a heroine in the Old Testament of the Bible.
The writings were obtained by the Orlando Sentinel from the father of the teenager, who said he found them on a flash drive.

Bary said she fled to Central Florida from her home in Ohio and fears her family will kill her because she converted to Christianity. Her parents are Muslims. A report sent to a Central Florida judge from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement indicated the claims could not be substantiated.

One of the documents written by Bary said she is "called to the nations. Send me to the deepest, darkest places into the Pagan land." Another document said the "Lord is preparing me, and he has me hidden until the time is right."

Bary Talks In YouTube Video
A video of Bary's testimony surfaced on YouTube on Wednesday.

The person who posted the video said it was recorded in May, which is before Bary fled to Florida from Ohio.

In the video, Bary appears to be excited to share the story of her conversion
to Christianity, and caller her parents "radical" Muslims.

"They can't know about my faith, because if they do know, the consequences are really harsh," Bary said in the video. "They'll pretty much disown me. I don't know what else will happen."
Bary also said she was abused.

"I was done living my life for worthless things -- going down a path of just depravity, a path that I knew led to death," Bary said.

Click To Comment

The runaway also talked about her first visit to church, and the moment she accepted God into her life.

"The Lord completely wraps me in his arms, with love, and I break down on the floor, and I weeped," Bary said in the video as another person clapped in the background.

Florida Gov. Charlie Crist has expressed concern for the safety of Bary, and the court will decide what is in her best interest.

The case is scheduled to resume on Sept. 29.
Video at link.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 17, 2009, 01:18:57 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/17/convert_bary_spreading_her_story_via_youtube.html
 Rifqa Tells YouTube Her Story
Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:07:30 PM
Reported by Emery Jeffreys

ORLANDO -- Rifqa Bary, the 17-year-old Christian convert who fled from her Muslim parents, is telling her story on YouTube.

During the 7-minute video, she briefly describes her life before she converted from the Muslim faith to Christianity. That act ignited an investigation and a tug-of-war between Ohio and Florida authorities.

Bary briefly talks about her life before her conversion and how she hid it from her parents. However, most of the video is aimed at proselytizing other teenagers.

"It's crazy how I found the Lord," she said. "My parents are radical Muslims. If you don't know the history of Muslims, they are really hostile towards Christians.

"I've been hiding this for a long time, three, four years," Rifqa Bary said. "They can't know about this. The consequences are harsh."

The teen also claimed that she was abused.

A report by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement released earlier this month said there was no evidence Bary had been abused or faced danger if she returned home.
The video, "Rifqa Bary's Testimony Before the Summer of 2009," can be found easily. YouTube statistics said it has been viewed more than 2,500 times since it was posted Sept. 15.

Her parents, Mohamed and Asha Bary have their own video on YouTube. It's been viewed more than 4,l00 times.

"She got involved with evangelical Christians," Mohamed Bary said as his wife sat tearfully at his side.

We didn't try to force anything on her," he said. "I have no problem with whatever faith she has. That is not the issue. We love her. She is not an adult"

Blake and Beverly Lorenz, the couple who founded Global Revolution Church, are also telling their side of the story on YouTube.

According to their video, she ran away from her Muslim family's home in Columbus, Ohio because she had converted to Christianity and feared retribution.

The Lorenz couple avoiding speaking publicly, but their lawyer does speak on their behalf.

"When she presented to them hysterically that her life was in jeopardy, they did what anyone would do and that is to try to help her," said Mat Staver, a family friend and lawyer.
Staver is adamant that the Lorenz family didn't try to hide her away. He says they reached out to DCF three times and a judge to try and find out what they should do.

The couple can't have contact with Rifqa, but their children have kept in contact with her via computer.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 17, 2009, 02:26:42 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20964594/detail.html
Religious Runaway Gives Fervent Appeal On YouTube
Fathima Bary Talks About Faith In Video

POSTED: 10:44 am EDT September 17, 2009
UPDATED: 2:12 pm EDT September 17, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A video of Fathima Bary's testimony surfaced on YouTube on Wednesday.

The person who posted the video said it was recorded in May, which is before Bary fled to Florida from Ohio.

In the video, Bary appears to be excited to share the story of her conversion to Christianity, and caller her parents "radical" Muslims.

"They can't know about my faith, because if they do know, the consequences are really harsh," Bary said in the video. "They'll pretty much disown me. I don't know what else will happen."
Bary also said she was abused.

"I was done living my life for worthless things -- going down a path of just depravity, a path that I knew led to death," Bary said.

Click To Comment

The runaway also talked about her first visit to church, and the moment she accepted God into her life.

"The Lord completely wraps me in his arms, with love, and I break down on the floor, and I weeped," Bary said in the video as another person clapped in the background.

Florida Gov. Charlie Crist has expressed concern for the safety of Bary, and the court will decide what is in her best interest.

The case is scheduled to resume on Sept. 29.

Meanwhile, in newly released documents, Bary compared herself to a heroine in the Old Testament of the Bible.
l Florida judge from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement indicated the claims could not be substantiated.

One of the documents written by Bary said she is "called to the nations. Send me to the deepest, darkest places into the Pagan land." Another document said the "Lord is preparing me, and he has me hidden until the time is right."
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Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 17, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/17/convert_bary_spreading_her_story_via_youtube.html
 Rifqa Tells YouTube Her Story
Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:07:30 PM
Reported by Emery Jeffreys

ORLANDO -- Rifqa Bary, the 17-year-old Christian convert who fled from her Muslim parents, is telling her story on YouTube.

During the 7-minute video, she briefly describes her life before she converted from the Muslim faith to Christianity. That act ignited an investigation and a tug-of-war between Ohio and Florida authorities.

Bary briefly talks about her life before her conversion and how she hid it from her parents. However, most of the video is aimed at proselytizing other teenagers.

"It's crazy how I found the Lord," she said. "My parents are radical Muslims. If you don't know the history of Muslims, they are really hostile towards Christians.

"I've been hiding this for a long time, three, four years," Rifqa Bary said. "They can't know about this. The consequences are harsh."

The teen also claimed that she was abused.

A report by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement released earlier this month said there was no evidence Bary had been abused or faced danger if she returned home.
The video, "Rifqa Bary's Testimony Before the Summer of 2009," can be found easily. YouTube statistics said it has been viewed more than 2,500 times since it was posted Sept. 15.

Her parents, Mohamed and Asha Bary have their own video on YouTube. It's been viewed more than 4,l00 times.

"She got involved with evangelical Christians," Mohamed Bary said as his wife sat tearfully at his side.

We didn't try to force anything on her," he said. "I have no problem with whatever faith she has. That is not the issue. We love her. She is not an adult"

Blake and Beverly Lorenz, the couple who founded Global Revolution Church, are also telling their side of the story on YouTube.

According to their video, she ran away from her Muslim family's home in Columbus, Ohio because she had converted to Christianity and feared retribution.

The Lorenz couple avoiding speaking publicly, but their lawyer does speak on their behalf.

"When she presented to them hysterically that her life was in jeopardy, they did what anyone would do and that is to try to help her," said Mat Staver, a family friend and lawyer.
Staver is adamant that the Lorenz family didn't try to hide her away. He says they reached out to DCF three times and a judge to try and find out what they should do.

The couple can't have contact with Rifqa, but their children have kept in contact with her via computer.
Why is the press so against this girl? Is it me or am I just reading this wrong. Rifqa's youtube views vs Moes and Aisha's view numbers being more than Rifqas? I am sick of the slant the media is making her parent's out to be victims, yet Rifqa is the real victim here. JMO JSM  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 17, 2009, 04:18:17 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20964594/detail.html
Religious Runaway Gives Fervent Appeal On YouTube
Fathima Bary Talks About Faith In Video

POSTED: 10:44 am EDT September 17, 2009
UPDATED: 4:02 pm EDT September 17, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A video of Rifqa Bary's testimony surfaced on YouTube on Wednesday.

The person who posted the video said it was recorded in May, which is before Bary fled to Florida from Ohio.

In the video, Bary appears to be excited to share the story of her conversion to Christianity, and caller her parents "radical" Muslims.

"They can't know about my faith, because if they do know, the consequences are really harsh," Bary said in the video. "They'll pretty much disown me. I don't know what else will happen."
Bary also said she was abused.

"I was done living my life for worthless things -- going down a path of just depravity, a path that I knew led to death," Bary said.

The runaway also talked about her first visit to church, and the moment she accepted God into her life.

"The Lord completely wraps me in his arms, with love, and I break down on the floor, and I weeped," Bary said in the video as another person clapped in the background.

Florida Gov. Charlie Crist has expressed concern for the safety of Bary, and the court will decide what is in her best interest.

The case is scheduled to resume on Sept. 29.

Meanwhile, in newly released documents, Bary compared herself to a heroine in the Old Testament of the Bible.
The writings were obtained by the Orlando Sentinel from the father of the teenager, who said he found them on a flash drive.

Bary said she fled to Central Florida from her home in Ohio and fears her family will kill her because she converted to Christianity. Her parents are Muslims. A report sent to a Central Florida judge from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement indicated the claims could not be substantiated.

One of the documents written by Bary said she is "called to the nations. Send me to the deepest, darkest places into the Pagan land." Another document said the "Lord is preparing me, and he has me hidden until the time is right."


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 19, 2009, 09:45:48 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-the-ultimate-threat.html

 ::MonkeyEek::

World's leading scholar on Islamic sacred text, Dr Andrew Bostom:

Read at the link, too many things to copy and paste and Atlas and Andrew Bostom are the greatest and I want them to get the hits to the sites.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 21, 2009, 07:38:00 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21033387/detail.html
Religious Runaway Returns To Court
Fathima Bary Remains In Foster Care

POSTED: 6:16 am EDT September 21, 2009
UPDATED: 6:29 am EDT September 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A religious runaway who claims she fled to Orlando so she wouldn't be killed will return to the courtroom on Monday.
Fathima Bary ran away from her home in Ohio to live with a church group in Central Florida.

Bary claimed her Muslim father wanted her dead because she converted to Christianity.

The teen was placed in foster care until a judge determines where she would live.

It will be the first hearing in the case since the Florida Department of Law Enforcement released a report indicating there's no proof of the teen's claims.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 21, 2009, 07:46:16 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21033362/detail.html
Religious Runaway Could Be Sent Home With Parents

Posted: 6:04 am EDT September 21, 2009Updated: 6:14 am EDT September 21, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The religious runaway who fled to Orlando and claimed her parents would kill her for converting to Christianity could be ordered to return home on Monday.

Rifqa Bary will be back in court Monday and her parents will ask a judge to return their runaway daughter back into their custody. Eyewitness News has been following the Bary case since she was found here in Central Florida in August.

Attorneys on both sides of the battle are preparing for a hearing that could potentially send Rifqa Bary back to Ohio to live with her parents.
"I was risking everything. If my parents found out, I was 13-years-old and I would not have a home. How crazy. They can't know of my faith because if they do the consequences are really harsh," said Rifqa Bary in the recorded video.

Those claims from a video posted on the Internet are just a glimpse into allegations from 17-year-old that so far have been difficult to prove.

An Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) investigation into Rifqa Bary's home life did not turn up any documented danger to the girl who said her father and his mosque members would kill her for converting to Christianity. In fact, her father has publically denied anything but disappointment over her religious choice.

Now armed with a favorable report, attorneys for the girl's parents will ask a judge to throw out the case against them and send the girl home to Ohio to be treated like any other runaway.

However, the guardian ad litem in the case wants to seal a taped interview with the girl, suggesting the state still has at least something to go on as far as the allegations are concerned.

Also, the Florida Department of Children and Families (DCF) is expected to ask the judge to re-consider the girl's attorney, saying it does not believe he is the right man for the job in this case.

It is anyone's guess as to the arguments that will be made in court Monday, as all of the attorneys involved with this case are under a judge's gag order.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 21, 2009, 10:26:35 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/21/will_religious_runaway_be_returned_to_ohio.html
 Will Religious Runaway Be Returned To Ohio?
Monday, September 21, 2009 6:18:21 AM
Reported By Mark Jenkins

ORLANDO -- The Ohio teen who said she ran away to Central Florida for religious freedom may be ordered to return home today.

A hearing is scheduled this afternoon in a courtroom at the Juvenile Justice Center.

After the FDLE released a report of holes in Rifqa Bary's story, she might want to have her bags packed.

Bary ran away from her Muslim family's home in Columbus, Ohio because she converted to Christianity and said she feared retribution.

Bary claims she was assaulted by her father, threatened with death and was the victim of long-term child abuse.

But investigators said they found no credible reports of threats or any other "derogatory" information.

Instead, the FDLE said, they found a list of lies.

Bary told investigators she hitchhiked from a neighbor's Ohio house to the Greyhound bus station for her trip to Orlando.
It turned out the man who baptized her in Ohio is the one who drove her to the bus station.

Then, investigators learned her bus ticket was actually bought in Orlando under a fake name.

Bary has been staying with a foster family in Orlando, but a judge could order her to return to her family today.

That hearing is scheduled for 3 p.m. Monday afternoon.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 21, 2009, 11:30:53 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21033387/detail.html
Religious Runaway Returns To Court
Fathima Bary Remains In Foster Care

POSTED: 6:16 am EDT September 21, 2009
UPDATED: 6:29 am EDT September 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A religious runaway who claims she fled to Orlando so she wouldn't be killed will return to the courtroom on Monday.
Fathima Bary ran away from her home in Ohio to live with a church group in Central Florida.

Bary claimed her Muslim father wanted her dead because she converted to Christianity.

The teen was placed in foster care until a judge determines where she would live.

It will be the first hearing in the case since the Florida Department of Law Enforcement released a report indicating there's no proof of the teen's claims.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 21, 2009, 11:38:21 AM
I think Rifqa needs lots and lots of prayer today.  ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 21, 2009, 11:52:39 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/21/will_religious_runaway_be_returned_to_ohio.html
 Will Religious Runaway Be Returned To Ohio?
Monday, September 21, 2009 6:18:21 AM
Reported By Mark Jenkins

ORLANDO -- The Ohio teen who said she ran away to Central Florida for religious freedom may be ordered to return home today.

A hearing is scheduled this afternoon in a courtroom at the Juvenile Justice Center.

After the FDLE released a report of holes in Rifqa Bary's story, she might want to have her bags packed.

Bary ran away from her Muslim family's home in Columbus, Ohio because she converted to Christianity and said she feared retribution.

Bary claims she was assaulted by her father, threatened with death and was the victim of long-term child abuse.

But investigators said they found no credible reports of threats or any other "derogatory" information.

Instead, the FDLE said, they found a list of lies.

Bary told investigators she hitchhiked from a neighbor's Ohio house to the Greyhound bus station for her trip to Orlando.
It turned out the man who baptized her in Ohio is the one who drove her to the bus station.

Then, investigators learned her bus ticket was actually bought in Orlando under a fake name.

Bary has been staying with a foster family in Orlando, but a judge could order her to return to her family today.

That hearing is scheduled for 3 p.m. Monday afternoon.
I see a list of lies from the press, from her family and their attorney. Read the fatwa a German person sent to Pamela at her link.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/rifqa-bary-death-threat-exhibit-a-the-document-fatwa-death-penalty-for-apostasy.html


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 21, 2009, 05:36:31 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21033387/detail.html
Runaway's Parents Want Case Moved To Ohio
Fathima Bary Remains In Foster Care

POSTED: 6:16 am EDT September 21, 2009
UPDATED: 5:25 pm EDT September 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorneys for the parents of a teen who claims she fled to Orlando so she wouldn't be killed want the case moved to Ohio.
Fathima Bary, who goes by Rifqa, ran away from her home in Ohio to live with a church group in Central Florida. She claimed her Muslim father wanted her dead because she converted to Christianity.
The 17-year-old was placed in foster care until a judge determines where she would live.

Monday, her parents filed a motion for a dependency hearing seeking jurisdiction of the case to be moved from Orlando to Columbus, Ohio.

An Ohio judge set a court date for the case on Oct.27.

Florida currently has jurisdiction in the case, and the judge presiding over the case said he would need to speak to the judge in Ohio regarding jurisdictional issues.

The Department of Children and Families said it expects this case to be resolved in 30 to 60 days.

"I think that Florida and Ohio, we both share the same outcome for the child. We want to protect her safety, her well being and we also want to support reunification if at all possible," John Cooper of DCF said.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 21, 2009, 06:06:36 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21033387/detail.html
Runaway's Parents Want Case Moved To Ohio
Fathima Bary Remains In Foster Care

POSTED: 6:16 am EDT September 21, 2009
UPDATED: 5:25 pm EDT September 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorneys for the parents of a teen who claims she fled to Orlando so she wouldn't be killed want the case moved to Ohio.
Fathima Bary, who goes by Rifqa, ran away from her home in Ohio to live with a church group in Central Florida. She claimed her Muslim father wanted her dead because she converted to Christianity.
The 17-year-old was placed in foster care until a judge determines where she would live.

Monday, her parents filed a motion for a dependency hearing seeking jurisdiction of the case to be moved from Orlando to Columbus, Ohio.

An Ohio judge set a court date for the case on Oct.27.

Florida currently has jurisdiction in the case, and the judge presiding over the case said he would need to speak to the judge in Ohio regarding jurisdictional issues.

The Department of Children and Families said it expects this case to be resolved in 30 to 60 days.

"I think that Florida and Ohio, we both share the same outcome for the child. We want to protect her safety, her well being and we also want to support reunification if at all possible," John Cooper of DCF said.

I that is the truth, Mr Cooper, you will do everything in your power to give her seclusion and protection which she will not receive in Ohio. She needs to be in a witness protection program. JMO


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 21, 2009, 06:38:33 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21033387/detail.html
Runaway's Parents Want Case Moved To Ohio
Fathima Bary Remains In Foster Care

POSTED: 6:16 am EDT September 21, 2009
UPDATED: 5:25 pm EDT September 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorneys for the parents of a teen who claims she fled to Orlando so she wouldn't be killed want the case moved to Ohio.
Fathima Bary, who goes by Rifqa, ran away from her home in Ohio to live with a church group in Central Florida. She claimed her Muslim father wanted her dead because she converted to Christianity.
The 17-year-old was placed in foster care until a judge determines where she would live.

Monday, her parents filed a motion for a dependency hearing seeking jurisdiction of the case to be moved from Orlando to Columbus, Ohio.

An Ohio judge set a court date for the case on Oct.27.

Florida currently has jurisdiction in the case, and the judge presiding over the case said he would need to speak to the judge in Ohio regarding jurisdictional issues.

The Department of Children and Families said it expects this case to be resolved in 30 to 60 days.

"I think that Florida and Ohio, we both share the same outcome for the child. We want to protect her safety, her well being and we also want to support reunification if at all possible," John Cooper of DCF said.
Well, lets see Mr Cooper Ohio wants her back with the family. Florida wants her back with her family so reunification with the family is what both states want? You Mr Cooper and DCF might as well kill her yourself to get it over with, because if she returns to Ohio Rifqa's blood may not be shed by her family, but she will be killed nonetheless if she doesn't recant her Christianity.  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 21, 2009, 07:11:26 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21033387/detail.html
Runaway's Parents Want Case Moved To Ohio
New Hearing Set Regarding Jurisdiction

POSTED: 6:16 am EDT September 21, 2009
UPDATED: 6:36 pm EDT September 21, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A new hearing was set Monday in the case of a so-called religious runaway who said she fled to Orlando from Ohio out of fear that she would be killed for converting to Christianity.

The attorneys for the parents of Rifqa Bary tried to get the case moved to Ohio. A judge ruled in a hearing Monday to schedule another hearing for Oct. 13. In the meantime, the Orange County judge will confer with the judge in Rifqa's hometown in Ohio to review the details of jurisdiction.
Rifqa's parents' attorney also said in court Monday that the parents have filed a complaint with police. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement confirmed they received the complaint and it is under review. The nature of the complaint was not revealed.

The teen said she ran away from her home in Ohio to live with a church group in Central Florida. She claimed her Muslim father wanted her dead as an honor killing because she converted to Christianity.
The 17-year-old was placed in foster care until a judge determines where she would live.

The Department of Children and Families said it expects this case to be resolved in 30 to 60 days.

"I think that Florida and Ohio, we both share the same outcome for the child. We want to protect her safety, her well being and we also want to support reunification if at all possible," John Cooper of DCF said.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 21, 2009, 07:12:05 PM
http://cf.wesh.com/orl/sh/con_surveycontest_display/displaySurveyResults.cfm?contentid=21037873&sitekey=ORL&questionum=1&answer1=1


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 21, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-092109,0,2039847.story
Rifqa Bary to stay in Florida; family files complaint against Orlando pastors

Amy L. Edwards and Sarah Lundy Sentinel Staff Writers
8:19 p.m. EDT, September 21, 2009
The legal battle over teen runaway Fathima Rifqa Bary will continue today in an Ohio courtroom after an Orlando hearing Monday brought more questions than resolutions.

Orange Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson did nothing to change the custody of the 17-year-old who is living with a foster family near Orlando and said he planned to talk to an Ohio judge to find out if there is a legitimate custody action in that state.

If so, Dawson would need to determine if and how long Florida's emergency jurisdiction should remain open.

Meanwhile, Rifqa's father stepped up a strategy to bring his daughter back to Ohio. Mohamed Bary, filing a criminal complaint against the Orlando pastors who helped shelter Rifqa for more than two weeks before the state intervened.

Lawyer Shayan Elahi told the Orange County court that Rifqa's parents, Mohamed and Aysha Bary filed a complaint about Blake and Beverly Lorenz with law enforcement officials.

A letter sent to Orlando police by Mohamed Bary claimed Rifqa was "indoctrinated and coerced" by representatives of Global Revolution Church and "was hidden" by the Lorenzes. Orlando police said they are not investigating.

An FDLE spokeswoman confirmed the agency received a complaint against the Lorenzes, but she could not comment further.
Rifqa made national headlines when she ran away from her home near Columbus, Ohio, took a bus to Central Florida and sought shelter with the Lorenzes in July. She spent more than two weeks with the family until Aug. 10 when she was placed into state foster care, where she remains.

The teen said she feared her Muslim family would harm or kill her because of her conversion to Christianity.

Rifqa's family has denied any wrongdoing, and investigators in Ohio and Florida have not found evidence supporting Rifqa's claims.

The pastors, who have served in the ministry in Central Florida for more than 25 years, met Rifqa through a prayer group on the Internet social networking site Facebook.

One Florida statute makes it unlawful to an unmarried minor for more than 24 hours without the consent of their parent or guardian, or without notifying a law-enforcement officer of the child's name. A violation of that law is a misdemeanor.

Mat Staver, the Lorenzes lawyer and longtime friend, said there is "no solid basis for the complaint" filed against them.

He said the Lorenzes did what any person would do given the circumstances. Staver said the Lorenzes took multiple steps to notify authorities.

The Lorenzes were questioned as part of FDLE's earlier inquiry into the alleged threats made against Rifqa by her family, Staver said. They have not been questioned since.

The pastors were already forbidden from visiting Rifqa in foster care. Dawson added their adult children to the ban in light of any criminal inquiry.

Rifqa used Monday's hearing to peruse a Bible. Other than stating her name, she did not speak.

Her parents listened to the hearing by phone.

In recent weeks, the Barys launched a new strategy to get their daughter back to their home near Columbus and placed in Ohio's foster care system. Mohamed Bary's filing, asking a judge to declare his daughter incorrigible for repeatedly being disobedient, is one case there.
Another hearing is scheduled in juvenile court this morning in Columbus, Ohio, to address the issue. Criminal attorney Kort Gatterdam, who is representing Rifqa in Ohio, said he will respond to the complaint and plans to file something in court in the morning. He wouldn't give details about what he's going to file.

Rifqa's Guardian Ad Litem, Krista Bartholomew, said she has "grave concerns" that the Ohio case would be dismissed as soon as Rifqa is sent back there.

The Barys also filed a dependency petition against themselves in juvenile court in Ohio, Elahi said. The next hearing in that case is Oct. 27. Roger Weeden, the attorney for Aysha Bary, said the Ohio court has accepted jurisdiction and argued that all of the witnesses in Rifqa's case, from relatives to teachers, are there.

Rifqa's Florida case is set for mediation Oct. 9. Another proceeding in juvenile court is Oct. 13.

Also Monday, Dawson kept sealed FDLE's interview of Rifqa. The judge said he wanted to read a transcript of the interview before deciding to remove the seal.

Amy L. Edwards can be reached at aledwards@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5735. Sarah Lundy can be reached at slundy@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-6218.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 21, 2009, 09:10:17 PM
  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::

They are filing a complaint against the Lorenzes?

People of Florida and Ohio and the rest of the US, get ready for Sharia law because LE, the SA and media will always take the side of the muslim/islam. 

If you stand up to CAIR, et al, you will be called a racist, islamophobe, etc.

Look at England, look at Holland, look at Sweden, look at France.

JSM back in the day felt sorry for the Bosnians (or whatever they were called), thinking they were being treated bad by Serbs, Croats until the evening of 9-11 sitting at a bar with an Iranian. He told me the truth about the religion, how they lie, make you feel sorry for them, all to get people to believe it is a religion of peace.

God bless Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Raymond Ibaihim, Hugh Hewitt, Geert Wilders and others that are trying to get the word out.

Two beautiful girls were killed down the street from me because they dated "christian" boys. Think what will happen to poor Rifqa for becoming a Christian?

This is JMO and JSM will shut up now before I really get banned.  ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 28, 2009, 03:22:26 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21138287/detail.html
Religious Runaway Speaks On Conference Call

Posted: 1:03 pm EDT September 28, 2009Updated: 1:18 pm EDT September 28, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- More information about the experiences of a religious runaway were released Monday in her own words.

Recently, 17-year-old Rifqa Bary was a special guest on a conference call organized by a group called the National Day of Prayer Task Force. Rifqa told the people listening on the phone about her conversion from Islam to Christianity and how she ended up in Orlando.
"I put on a back pack, I had no clothes. I had to leave everything behind. I ran for my life and that is what brought me here to Florida," Bary said.

A hearing about whether the girl should be returned to Ohio has been pushed back until October 27.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 28, 2009, 03:31:49 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21138287/detail.html
Religious Runaway Speaks On Conference Call

Posted: 1:03 pm EDT September 28, 2009Updated: 1:18 pm EDT September 28, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- More information about the experiences of a religious runaway were released Monday in her own words.

Recently, 17-year-old Rifqa Bary was a special guest on a conference call organized by a group called the National Day of Prayer Task Force. Rifqa told the people listening on the phone about her conversion from Islam to Christianity and how she ended up in Orlando.
"I put on a back pack, I had no clothes. I had to leave everything behind. I ran for my life and that is what brought me here to Florida," Bary said.

A hearing about whether the girl should be returned to Ohio has been pushed back until October 27.

Oh, how I pray Ohio leaves her alone.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 29, 2009, 05:27:41 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21151085/detail.html
DCF Looking At Religious Runaway Conference Call
Rifqa Bary Prays, Talks Of Conversion

POSTED: 3:49 pm EDT September 29, 2009
UPDATED: 5:14 pm EDT September 29, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A conference call by an Ohio teenager, who ran away to Orlando after she says her father threatened to kill her over her religious conversion, has surfaced online, and it has the Department of Children and Families asking questions.
Nine minutes of the 17-minute call was posted to YouTube. In the call, Rifqa Bary can be heard praying – at times becoming unintelligible. The call begins with the teenager telling her story of converting to Christianity and fleeing from Ohio to Central Florida in July to escape her Muslim parents, saying her father made threats on her life if she did not denounce her belief in Jesus.

"Thank you all for the prayers of the saints," she says. "I'm not even supposed to be here. The Lord is simply good."

Then a man says, "Rifqa Bary, we are so pleased that you could join us and there are thousands on this phone call that want to pray with you and for you."

Rifqa left Ohio in August. It's still unclear when the phone call featuring her took place.

DCF officials said they are trying to figure out who set up the conference call.

Rifqa's attorney's office said they're aware of this conference call, but are not commenting.
Listen to call.    http://www.wesh.com/video/21151765/index.html


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 29, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21151085/detail.html
DCF Looking At Religious Runaway Conference Call
Rifqa Bary Prays, Talks Of Conversion

POSTED: 3:49 pm EDT September 29, 2009
UPDATED: 5:14 pm EDT September 29, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A conference call by an Ohio teenager, who ran away to Orlando after she says her father threatened to kill her over her religious conversion, has surfaced online, and it has the Department of Children and Families asking questions.
Nine minutes of the 17-minute call was posted to YouTube. In the call, Rifqa Bary can be heard praying – at times becoming unintelligible. The call begins with the teenager telling her story of converting to Christianity and fleeing from Ohio to Central Florida in July to escape her Muslim parents, saying her father made threats on her life if she did not denounce her belief in Jesus.

"Thank you all for the prayers of the saints," she says. "I'm not even supposed to be here. The Lord is simply good."

Then a man says, "Rifqa Bary, we are so pleased that you could join us and there are thousands on this phone call that want to pray with you and for you."

Rifqa left Ohio in August. It's still unclear when the phone call featuring her took place.

DCF officials said they are trying to figure out who set up the conference call.

Rifqa's attorney's office said they're aware of this conference call, but are not commenting.
Listen to call.    http://www.wesh.com/video/21151765/index.html
Okay, this is going to sound harsh against Rifqa. But I really wish she wouldn't go out making calls and doing anymore interviews. It is going to make the anti religous press, think that she "has" been brainwashed and needs to go back to Ohio with her "loving" family.

I think she needs to stay in the background until this is all over. If they send her back to Ohio, then she and we need to pray HARD for her. If she is allowed to stay in Florida, by all means she can shout to the Heaven, Jesus, God, Mary and all the Saints that she is alive.

One more thought on this that has bothered me since the beginning. Is the state of Florida sending her back to Ohio so they don't have to pay benefits for her as a foster child? Just wondering, because if they were looking at the "welfare" of this child, then they should keep her in Florida until she becomes of age and all is well.

Something doesn't make sense, unless the state of Florida is afraid of CAIR and other islamic organizations.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 29, 2009, 07:22:04 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21151085/detail.html
DCF Looking At Religious Runaway Conference Call
Rifqa Bary Prays, Talks Of Conversion

POSTED: 3:49 pm EDT September 29, 2009
UPDATED: 5:53 pm EDT September 29, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A conference call by an Ohio teenager, who ran away to Orlando after she says her father threatened to kill her over her religious conversion, has surfaced online, and it has the Department of Children and Families asking questions.

Listen To The Call

Nine minutes of the 17-minute call was posted to YouTube. In the call, Rifqa Bary can be heard praying – at times becoming unintelligible. The call begins with the teenager telling her story of converting to Christianity and fleeing from Ohio to Central Florida in July to escape her Muslim parents, saying her father made threats on her life if she did not denounce her belief in Jesus.

"Thank you all for the prayers of the saints," she says. "I'm not even supposed to be here. The Lord is simply good."
Then a man says, "Rifqa Bary, we are so pleased that you could join us and there are thousands on this phone call that want to pray with you and for you."

Rifqa left Ohio in August. It's still unclear when the phone call featuring her took place.

DCF officials said they are trying to figure out who set up the conference call.

"One of the concerns was if any of the adult parties who have been working with her to ensure her safety had promoted this or recommended that she participate in something like this," Carrie Hoeppner of DCF said.

Rifqa's attorney's office said they're aware of this conference call, but are not commenting.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 29, 2009, 07:38:27 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21151085/detail.html
DCF Looking At Religious Runaway Conference Call
Rifqa Bary Prays, Talks Of Conversion

POSTED: 3:49 pm EDT September 29, 2009
UPDATED: 5:14 pm EDT September 29, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A conference call by an Ohio teenager, who ran away to Orlando after she says her father threatened to kill her over her religious conversion, has surfaced online, and it has the Department of Children and Families asking questions.
Nine minutes of the 17-minute call was posted to YouTube. In the call, Rifqa Bary can be heard praying – at times becoming unintelligible. The call begins with the teenager telling her story of converting to Christianity and fleeing from Ohio to Central Florida in July to escape her Muslim parents, saying her father made threats on her life if she did not denounce her belief in Jesus.

"Thank you all for the prayers of the saints," she says. "I'm not even supposed to be here. The Lord is simply good."

Then a man says, "Rifqa Bary, we are so pleased that you could join us and there are thousands on this phone call that want to pray with you and for you."

Rifqa left Ohio in August. It's still unclear when the phone call featuring her took place.

DCF officials said they are trying to figure out who set up the conference call.

Rifqa's attorney's office said they're aware of this conference call, but are not commenting.
Listen to call.    http://www.wesh.com/video/21151765/index.html
Okay, this is going to sound harsh against Rifqa. But I really wish she wouldn't go out making calls and doing anymore interviews. It is going to make the anti religous press, think that she "has" been brainwashed and needs to go back to Ohio with her "loving" family.

I think she needs to stay in the background until this is all over. If they send her back to Ohio, then she and we need to pray HARD for her. If she is allowed to stay in Florida, by all means she can shout to the Heaven, Jesus, God, Mary and all the Saints that she is alive.

One more thought on this that has bothered me since the beginning. Is the state of Florida sending her back to Ohio so they don't have to pay benefits for her as a foster child? Just wondering, because if they were looking at the "welfare" of this child, then they should keep her in Florida until she becomes of age and all is well.

Something doesn't make sense, unless the state of Florida is afraid of CAIR and other islamic organizations.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree with everything you are saying.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on September 29, 2009, 08:10:05 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21151085/detail.html
DCF Looking At Religious Runaway Conference Call
Rifqa Bary Prays, Talks Of Conversion

POSTED: 3:49 pm EDT September 29, 2009
UPDATED: 5:53 pm EDT September 29, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A conference call by an Ohio teenager, who ran away to Orlando after she says her father threatened to kill her over her religious conversion, has surfaced online, and it has the Department of Children and Families asking questions.

Listen To The Call

Nine minutes of the 17-minute call was posted to YouTube. In the call, Rifqa Bary can be heard praying – at times becoming unintelligible. The call begins with the teenager telling her story of converting to Christianity and fleeing from Ohio to Central Florida in July to escape her Muslim parents, saying her father made threats on her life if she did not denounce her belief in Jesus.

"Thank you all for the prayers of the saints," she says. "I'm not even supposed to be here. The Lord is simply good."
Then a man says, "Rifqa Bary, we are so pleased that you could join us and there are thousands on this phone call that want to pray with you and for you."

Rifqa left Ohio in August. It's still unclear when the phone call featuring her took place.

DCF officials said they are trying to figure out who set up the conference call.

"One of the concerns was if any of the adult parties who have been working with her to ensure her safety had promoted this or recommended that she participate in something like this," Carrie Hoeppner of DCF said.

Rifqa's attorney's office said they're aware of this conference call, but are not commenting.
Like I said earlier, she needs to keep her yap shut until the court hearing. The court, the public and MAINLY the media are going to believe she is a religous zealot that has been brainwashed and needs to be sent home to her parents. Unfortunately in the eyes of the media, Christian zealots are all nutters, but they portray the islamic kooks that try and blow up buildings in Dallas and Springfied as "misunderstood youths". I am sick of PC BS, but that is the way the media is run now days. I know she wants her voice heard as do many apostates of Islam, but she needs to do it when she becomes an adult. I don't know if the Lorenzes are making her do this, or if she is doing it because she wants to, but she really needs to STOP it!! If not, she is going to surely be sent back to Ohio, to the "family" that will either make her renounce her Christianity and have a forced marriage to some old, sick creepy imam or she will become another Sarah and Amina. I don't want that for her and I am sure the Lorenzes don't want that either.

SO PLEASE Rifqa, keep off the internet, youtube, telephone, etc. We all know you love Jesus, but you just never know WHO might be the one trying to interview you. Take some lessons from Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Nonie Darwish, keep it cool and secretive. JMO JSM


Edit to remove color links for ease of reading.  MB


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 05, 2009, 09:20:58 AM
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199068.php

Source: Rifqa Bary’s brother brags he leaked her foster care location to Muslim stalker-bloggerLast month the Orlando family court overseeing the Rifqa Bary case released a report by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that claims that they found no evidence to support her claims of abuse despite the father’s explicit admission to the primary incident that prompted her to flee (picking up her laptop and threatening to hit her with it) and a policy that prohibited the FDLE investigators from looking into any allegations of abuse that occurred in her home of Ohio, namely all of them.

But we were contacted by a source close to Rifqa’s family who made statements that calls into question the FDLE’s bogus findings and provides evidence that the Bary family home is not so safe and secure as the lamestream media cheerleading for her return has led to believe.

Our source, who is a member of the Central Ohio Islamic community and is close to the Bary family, claims that Rifqa Bary’s older brother, Rilvan, has repeatedly bragged about providing specific information on Rifqa’s Florida foster family to San Francisco-based Islamic stalker-blogger Davi Barker (whose email is themuslimagorist@gmail.com for anyone who is curious), who claimed in one post that he knew Rifqa’s present location and issued this veiled threat:

I'll tell you one thing reader... if she's not safe in Ohio, she's not safe in Florida. All it took was a little creative Googling and I was able to determine the likely address where she's staying*... But I digress.
Since Rifqa is currently in state custody and living with a Florida DCF-approved foster family, her location is confidential.

According to the source, Rilvan Bary provided Barker with the home phone number of the foster family – a potentially criminal act. (At some future point we might tell the scandalous story of how exactly how Rilvan obtained the home phone number of the foster family.) With that critical piece of information virtually anyone could locate her through “creative Googling”. The source further explained that Rilvan has bragged about passing off the information “to let her (Rifqa) know she could be gotten to anywhere” – a message Barker repeated with his “if she’s not safe in Ohio, she’s not safe in Florida” threat.

The source added Rilvan also provided Barker detailed information about several of Rifqa’s Christian associates in Ohio and elsewhere, presumably the same information contained on a computer thumb drive that the Bary family provided to the Orlando Sentinel through their representatives, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

Our source expressed concern about providing any information that might identify them, but did allow us to provide one quote from our conversation:

I first believed Mohamed’s (Rifqa’s father) story, but after I heard Rilvan bragging to many people about what he had done, I now think there is a real concern for her safety. Why would he do such a thing? Many people in the Muslim community have heard about what he (Rilvan) did, but now that CAIR and the Noor Center have now taken control of this issue no one else is going to speak out. Even Mohamed is following their orders.
After several bloggers called Davi Barker out on his threat to Rifqa’s safety, he quickly added a clarification to his post that he did not mean his comments to be a threat. He has also made defamatory claims against several of her Christian associates, including accusing them of crimes, which he has since retracted. (I sincerely hope those involved would consider pursuing their legal rights against Barker.)

We have additional info on Rifqa’s POS brother and his stalker-blogger accomplice, but this new development raises questions about the shoddy investigative work by law enforcement in both Ohio and Florida who have assured everyone that there is no threat to Rifqa Bary. The question is whether they are more concerned about offending the self-appointed leaders of the Muslim community or ensuring Rifqa Bary’s safety. The answer is becoming clear


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 05, 2009, 09:42:13 AM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: WTH is wrong with these people?She  nor anyone in that home is safe.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 05, 2009, 10:04:55 AM
This is going to be a landmark case, and if the right thing is not done here, there are going to be muslim women endangered all over the country in the future. Please, someone do the right thing.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 09, 2009, 08:41:26 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-runaway-teen-100909,0,5328036.story
Runaway teen Fathima Rifqa Bary could have meeting today
A judge ordered Fathima Rifqa Bary and her Ohio family to to participate in mediation during earlier court proceedings.
Amy L. Edwards  Sentinel Staff Writer

7:56 a.m. EDT, October 9, 2009
Fathima Rifqa Bary, the Ohio teen who fled to Florida out of fear her Muslim family would harm or kill her because she converted to Christianity, was scheduled to participate in mediation today.

An Orange County judge ordered Bary and her family to participate in mediation during earlier court proceedings.

But because mediation is private and juvenile records are not public, it's unclear if the meeting will take place today. It's also unknown where the parties and their respective attorneys would meet.

Rifqa has been in Orlando since July, when she ran away from her home in the Columbus area and sought shelter with pastors she met through a Facebook prayer group.

Eventually, the 17-year-old was ordered into the custody of the Department of Children and Families, and she's been in state foster care in Central Florida since.

Rifqa's parents have said they have not threatened to kill her, and they want her returned to Ohio. Law-enforcement in both states have said they found no credible threats against the teen.
The battle over Rifqa is now being played out in courtrooms in Ohio and Orlando. A hearing is scheduled in the Orange County case Tuesday.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Fanny Mae on October 09, 2009, 08:53:02 AM
I am sure she is terrified.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 09, 2009, 11:01:18 AM
I am sure she is terrified.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm sure she is terrified. I hope the mediator is not a muslim


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 12, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
RIFQA GOES TO COURT TOMORROW?

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/rifqas-imam-hany-saqr-was-taking-calls-from-hamas-leader.html

The stunning indictment outlined here in the investigation of the Noor mosque is damning enough, but this new revelation over at Jawa leaves no doubt as to how Rifqa will be received by the jihad mosque leaders. Tomorrow is her hearing. More on Saqr here (he's big in the Muslim Brotherhood).

But another piece of the puzzle comes into play connecting both of these established facts, namely, that phone records obtained by the Department of Justice for top Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook shows that he and Saqr were in direct communication at the time that Marzook was overseeing millions in disbursements to the terrorist organization. At the time, Hamas was getting as much as 30 percent of its budget from the US. The graphic below taken from Marzook's phone records (p. 21) show calls between Saqr and the terror leader in June 1992, among others (courtesy of the Florida Security Council).

Hamas had already been identified by the State Department as a terrorist group when these calls took place, and according to the official Hamas website, Marzook was operating as its top leader since at least 1991. Some insider accounts from pro-Hamas scholars claim Marzook had been leading the organization since 1988.

One has to wonder if Hany Saqr disclosed his leadership role in the international Muslim Brotherhood movement, his supervision of a terrorist financier, and his communications with the top Hamas leader on his immigration paperwork as is required by law? That might explain why Saqr's friend, Meredith "Hijab" Heagney of the Columbus Dispatch, has thus far failed to make any inquiries into this information

also read here http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199171.php

AND PRAY FOR THIS GIRL THAT SHE DOESN'T GO BACK TO OHIO. TIA JSM


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 09:31:07 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-convert-hearing-101309,0,1325695.story
Rifqa Bary expected in court today
Rifqa Bary, the Muslim-to-Christian teen convert who is at the center of a politically charged custody dispute, is expected in an Orlando courtroom today.
Amy L. Edwards  Sentinel Staff Writer

8:44 a.m. EDT, October 13, 2009
Ohio teen runaway Fathima Rifqa Bary, who has been living in Central Florida for nearly three months, is expected to be back in court this afternoon.

Lawyers in Florida and Ohio have been battling over 17-year-old Rifqa's fate. Rifqa's family wants her returned to the Columbus area. The teen wants to stay here.

Rifqa ran away from home in mid-July and said she feared her Muslim family would harm or kill her because she converted to Christianity. Her family said her fears are unfounded.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement didn't find any threats.

After arriving in Orlando, Rifqa sought shelter with local husband and wife pastors she met through Facebook, and lived with their family for several weeks.

In early August, an Orange County Circuit judge ordered Rifqa be placed in custody of the Florida Department of Children and Families. She's remained in foster care since.

One of the issues that remains unresolved is which state has jurisdiction -- Florida or Ohio.

Last week, the parties involved in Rifqa's case met for mediation.

But because juvenile records are private and mediation is not public, it's not clear what was discussed.
Today's hearing is slated to begin at 2:30 p.m. It isn't publicly known what will be discussed. It also is not known if Rifqa will appear -- though she has attended previous hearings.

Check back for updates.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 09:32:49 AM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/rifqa-bary-case/2009/10/
WDBO Local News      
Rifqa Bary case: October 2009 Archives
Who will decide what happens to the runaway Christian convert?
 By
Bob Hazen
@ October 13, 2009 7:40 AM Permalink | Comments (0)

A pair of judges in Orlando and Ohio will get on the phone with talk on the phone in open court today about the teenage Christian convert who claims her Muslim parents want to kill her.
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Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 09:34:18 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21279938/detail.html
Hearing Slated In Religious Runaway Case
Rifqa Bary Expected To Appear In Court

POSTED: 6:48 am EDT October 13, 2009
UPDATED: 7:22 am EDT October 13, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Rifqa Bary, 17, will appear in a Central Florida courtroom for a pretrial hearing on Tuesday.

While it's unclear exactly why the hearing is slated, several things could happen inside the courtroom.

A judge could decide on jurisdiction and whether the case should be heard in a Florida courtroom or moved to Ohio. The hearing could also be a status hearing to figure out how counseling for both sides is progressing.

The details are unclear because the case is being heard in juvenile court.

Bary is known as a religious runaway, and she made national headlines when she fled from her parents' home in Ohio because she claimed they planned to kill her for converting to Christianity. Bary posted a video on YouTube calling her parent radical.

A Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigated Bary's claims and found no evidence she would be a victim of an honor killing if she were returned home. There was also no evidence of assault or abuse.

Muhammad Musri, the leader of the Islamic Society of Central Florida said it's a story of a typical teenager at odds with her parents.

"The teenager in this case exaggerates the story just to be able to to justify her running away," Musri said.
Bary's parents filed a criminal complaint against the local pastors who assisted their daughter.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 09:36:07 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/13/religious_runaway_back_in_court.html
 Religious Runaway Back In Court
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:20:47 AM
ORLANDO -- The case of Ohio runaway Rifqa Bary is back in court Tuesday.     

Bary said she ran from her parents out of fear they would kill her because she converted from Islam to Christianity.

It's a claim her parents and their lawyer have repeatedly denied .

A court ordered mediation in the case was held last Friday. A spokeswoman for DCF said progress was made, but would not elaborate.

Rifqa is currently in the custody of the Department Of Children and Families.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on October 13, 2009, 11:00:32 AM
It seems to me that even if there were no danger if Rifqa returns to her parents (Although I am sure there will be) the mere fact that she is afraid to go home should be enough to keep her in FL. She is not six years old.  She is a young adult who will reach her majority in a few months and I can't understand why they would go against her wishes.  She fears for her life.  How can a judge ignore that and send her to the place she fears? 

There is little doubt that again we will see bowing to Muslims.  The US is becoming like Western Europe.  Of course with a President who spent the first ten years or so of his life as a Muslim and who insists that Islam is a "Religion of peace," what can we expect from the courts who probably buy the "Peace" bit and have never read anything of substance about this so-called religion?

Practicing Muslims who live by the Koran are required to kill Rifqa if she returns to Ohio.  It is "Pleasing to Allah."


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 11:46:37 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/13/religious_runaway_back_in_court.html
 Religious Runaway Back In Court
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:30:17 AM
ORLANDO -- The case of Ohio runaway Rifqa Bary is back in court Tuesday.     

Bary said she ran from her parents out of fear they would kill her because she converted from Islam to Christianity.

It's a claim her parents and their lawyer have repeatedly denied .

A court ordered mediation in the case was held last Friday. A spokeswoman for DCF said progress was made, but would not elaborate.

Rifqa is currently in the custody of the Department Of Children and Families
We will be getting updates directly from Kelli Cook in the courtroom and sharing them in our LIVE CHAT.  Join us for the chat starting at 2:30 p.m.
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/GeneralChat/default.aspx


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 02:35:37 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/13/religious_runaway_back_in_court.html
 Religious Runaway Back In Court
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:27:58 PM
ORLANDO -- The case of Ohio runaway Rifqa Bary is back in court Tuesday.

Bary said she ran from her parents out of fear they would kill her because she converted from Islam to Christianity.

It's a claim her parents and their lawyer have repeatedly denied .

A court ordered mediation in the case was held last Friday. A spokeswoman for DCF said progress was made, but would not elaborate.

Rifqa is currently in the custody of the Department Of Children and Families.

"It's possible and the purpose of today, although being a pretrial, with having the parties together, and having a number of outstanding issues to address, I think that we could and should expect, perhaps, a status update on some parts of this case, including jurisdiction," said Carrie Hoeppner, a spokeswoman for the Department of Children and Families.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 13, 2009, 03:48:06 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

3:35 p.m.: Judge rules -- Rifqa will complete Florida Virtual schooling until the end of the grading period.   DCF will directly turn over custody of the child to Franklin County Children Services.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 13, 2009, 07:19:10 PM
FYI

No Rose and Trimm and other monkeys concerned for Rifqa Bary, read these two posts.....

this is the first one from Pam

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/rifqa-bary-liveblogging-a-slow-motion-execution-shariah-style.html

This is the second most updated one... it is hard to bring over what Pam is saying, you have to read it on her site because she has links to click on that is not available to do here. Also, it is important to read the comments that are posted on her website. Here is the second link...

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/rifqa-bary-to-be-returned-to-ohio-no-wait.html

One more thing that cracks me up, she calls the family's lawyer Shayan "Shaytan" Elahi  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil:: Just an FYI, the word Shaytan in Arabic is SATAN  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Just in case you read it and think that is the dude's nickname.

I will also copy this and bring it over to her thread in just a second.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2009, 08:13:52 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-16867-Oakland-Evangelical-Examiner~y2009m10d13-Rifqa-Bary-being-sent-back-to-Ohio
Rifqa Bary being sent back to Ohio
October 13, 5:33 PMOakland Evangelical ExaminerJerry Wilson
The ongoing story of Rifqa Bary, the Ohio teen who earlier this year ran away from her devout Muslim parents out of fear for her life after having become a Christian, took another turn today when during an odd joint court session, one held in Florida where Rifqa is currently located and one in Ohio, it was ruled she should be returned to Ohio.

Rifqa's return is contingent on her parents providing the documentation concerning her immigration status. Despite this request having been made several times by both Rifqa's legal representation in Florida and the court in Florida since the start of the case it has yet to be produced. It is not known what would happen should it be revealed that Rifqa and her family are in the United States illegally as has been surmised by some bloggers following the case.
Another element not known is what will happen to the case when Rifqa is returned to Ohio. Although a representative from Ohio's Office of Families and Children stated during today's court proceedings that a foster home has been found for Rifqa, deep concerns have been expressed that once Rifqa is back in Ohio her parents will seek to have the case dismissed, thus leaving her unprotected.

None of the above is designed to either assert or imply that Rifqa's parents are going to carry out an honor killing of their daughter. What is being said is given the inexorable division within the Bary family caused by Rifqa being a Christian, it is more than unlikely an amiable resolution can be reached. Also, given the actions of Bary's parents since she ran away including making her journal public and stating to the court she is incorrigible one is given cause to wonder how this rift, even if Rifqa's fear of an honor killing is unfounded, can be healed.

All believers are urged to keep Rifqa in prayer that she may be allowed to worship Jesus in peace and safety.
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Fathima_Rifqa_Bary.jpg)
I pray for her safety.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Ariana on October 13, 2009, 08:48:45 PM
I hope the lawyer and parents don't have those immigration papers by the next court date (preferrably not at all) and that her parents attorney gets contempt.  I'm just evil like that. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 06:59:09 AM
http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/10/14/rifqahearing13.ART_ART_10-14-09_A1_HGFC8H2.html?sid=101
Runaway who converted from Islam likely to return to Ohio
But the New Albany teenager would stay in foster home, not with Muslim parents
Wednesday,  October 14, 2009 3:06 AM

By Meredith Heagney
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
<p>Rifqa Bary, 17, sits in the courtroom of Judge Daniel Dawson in Orlando, Fla.</p>
Ricardo Ramirez Buxeda | AP

Rifqa Bary, 17, sits in the courtroom of Judge Daniel Dawson in Orlando, Fla.
TIMELINE

    * The Rifqa Bary case

Fathima Rifqa Bary is likely coming home to Ohio, the state she fled nearly three months ago, saying she feared death for her conversion to Christianity.

But she'll be staying in a foster home, not her parents' Northeast Side apartment.

Jurisdiction in the 17-year-old's case should be transferred from Florida to Ohio, judges in both states decided via conference call yesterday.

Dependency cases were filed in both states to determine whether the girl should be returned to her parents, who she says would harm her for leaving Islam.

"I believe this is the home state and the most convenient forum with respect to the issues as I understand them," said Franklin County Juvenile Judge Elizabeth Gill.
Judge Daniel P. Dawson of the 9th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida agreed, but he required certain steps be taken before she is returned.

Rifqa ran away in July, saying her father threatened to kill her for becoming a Christian. Mohamed Bary denied her accusations, and a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to her safety.

She could be back in Ohio by Oct. 27, when a hearing is scheduled in Franklin County Juvenile Court, said Dawson, speaking from Orlando.

But before ordering her into the care of Franklin County Children Services, Dawson wanted two issues settled.

He asked for documented assurance that Rifqa's online schooling can continue in Ohio. Dawson also asked that Rifqa's parents provide all paperwork related to her immigration status before she crosses state lines.

Rifqa, a native of Sri Lanka, is not a U.S. citizen.

It isn't yet clear exactly when Rifqa will return, or how she will be transported. She will receive a psychological evaluation when she gets here.

Dawson asked whether the Barys could simply dismiss the Ohio dependency case because they filed it themselves in an attempt to transfer jurisdiction.

Assistant Franklin County Prosecutor Chris Julian said they would not agree to dismiss the case. A Children Services official added that it would not be in Rifqa's or her family's best interest for her to live at home at this time.

In Gill's courtroom yesterday, Mohamed Bary and his wife, Aysha, sat calmly between their attorneys. They laughed when they heard Rifqa's Florida attorney, John Stemberger, say that she was in danger of being sent back to Sri Lanka where she could be killed or institutionalized.

Stemberger also said Rifqa wants to stay in Florida.

After the hearing, the Barys and their 18-year-old son, Rilvan, said they were told not to comment. Rifqa's Ohio attorney, Kort Gatterdam, cited a gag order in declining to comment.

Dawson expressed frustration during the hearing that the Barys had not provided Rifqa's immigration paperwork after repeated requests.

He gave them 10 business days to comply, under threat of being found in contempt of court.
He also ordered the release of the 110-page transcript of a nearly three-hour interview with Rifqa that was conducted by Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigators. But some information must be redacted first, he said, not specifying an exact release date.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 07:02:27 AM
http://www.kxmd.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=452702
Update on the latest in religion news:
Oct 14 2009 2:41AM
Associated Press
RUNAWAY CONVERT Florida judge to order runaway who feared harm after conversion back to Ohio

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) A Florida judge says he plans to order the teenager who ran away from Ohio to Florida because she feared physical harm for converting from Islam to Christianity back to Ohio.

The Orlando judge said yesterday that he will sign the order when he gets the documents on 17-year-old Rifqa Bary's (RIFF'-kuh BAIR'-ee) immigration status.

Bary has been in foster care in Orlando while her case was being reviewed. The judge says he will likely turn over the case to an Ohio court in the next few weeks.

Bary ran away from her parents' Columbus-area home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions. But a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to Bary.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 07:05:13 AM
Runaway Convert Going Back to Ohio
http://www.youtube.com/v/WpqHDIDMDd4&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 06:40:46 PM
Rifqa Bary ordered back to Ohio... or Sri Lanka?
http://www.youtube.com/v/zouc78mEgXg&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 14, 2009, 06:48:18 PM
http://dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/10/14/rifqa_timeline.html?sid=101
Rifqa Bary timeline
Wednesday,  October 14, 2009 6:14 AM
    * July 19, 2009: Rifqa Bary disappears. It is later determined that she had taken a bus to Orlando, Fla., where she met Beverly Lorenz. Mrs. Lorenz met the girl through a Facebook prayer group. Rifqa has since been assigned to a foster family approved by the Florida Department of Children and Families.

    * July 29, 2009: The first call about Rifqa to the Florida Department of Children and Families is made. Officials wouldn't say whether it was a member of the Lorenz family who called.

    * Aug. 13, 2009: Rifqa's Muslim parents say their daughter has been brainwashed and that she was free to be a Christian.

    * Aug. 21, 2009: A judge rules that Rifqa will stay in Florida while custody issues are being settled. Mohamed Bary, Rifqa's father, told the judge that his daughter would be able to practice Christianity if she returned home.

    * Aug. 31, 2009: An attorney for Rifqa alleges in court documents that her family's mosque in Dublin, Ohio, has terrorist ties, a charge disputed by the Islamic center's leader. Rifqa said in a sworn statement that her family regularly attended gatherings at the Noor Islamic Cultural Center in Hilliard, and her attorney said in a memo that the mosque hosted extremist speakers and supported a scholar with ties to the militant group Hamas.

    * Sept. 2, 2009: Mobin-Uddin, a Columbus pediatrician, is among the members of the Noor Islamic Culture Center who invited reporters to the facility for a tour and to distance themselves from the legal battle between Rifqa and her family.

    * Sept. 3, 2009:
          o Christian supporters of Rifqa, some of them from out of state, hold Bibles and try to crowd into the 9th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida alongside an army of newspaper and TV reporters and bloggers. Activists hold a news conference outside to rally against their view of Islam, exchanging shouts with an angry Muslim man from the area. Inside the 9th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida, Judge Daniel P. Dawson was given the task of looking past the culture war to the issue of what to do with Rifqa.
          o A pretrial-hearing date is set for Sept. 29. The two sides were ordered by Dawson into mediation in the next 30 days. Dawson issues a gag order.
    *
          o Eric Fenner, executive director of Franklin County Children Services, says that the agency has "no reason to believe" that Rifqa wouldn't be safe with her parents.

    * Sept. 8, 2009: The parents of Fathima Rifqa file a complaint in Franklin County Juvenile Court accusing their daughter of being incorrigible. The filing further states that Rifqa is "habitually disobedient," comes and goes as she pleases, defies her parents and their rules, and is truant at home and school.

    * Sept. 14, 2009: The summary of a report by investigators with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement says that no evidence has been found that Fathima Rifqa Bary was threatened with death by her Muslim father for converting to Christianity. The report further states that there is no credible evidence of abuse and that Rifqa had help getting to Orlando. Rifqa's case is now in dependency court in Orlando, where a judge is to decide whether she will live with her parents or in foster care. A pretrial hearing is set for Sept. 29; Rifqa and her parents are to attempt mediation before then.

    * Sept. 21, 2009:
          o Rifqa's father steps up a strategy to bring his daughter back to Columbus. Mohamed Bary files a criminal complaint against the Orlando pastors who helped shelter Rifqa for more than two weeks before the state intervened.
          o In a hearing, Orange County, Fla. Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson does nothing to change the custody of the 17-year-old, who is living with a foster family near Orlando, and says he plans to talk to the Franklin County judge handling the case to find out whether there is a legitimate custody action in Ohio.

    * Sept. 22, 2009: The legal battle over Rifqa continues in a Franklin County Juvenile Court.

    * Oct. 13, 2009: A Florida judge orders Rifqa back to Ohio. Orange County, Fla., Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson said that Bary, 17, who has been staying in Orlando, should return to her family. Franklin County Children Services has accepted the case and has a foster family for Bary.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 14, 2009, 07:31:40 PM
 ::MonkeyMad:: I read that her GAL, doesn't like the foster family she will be with in Ohio. Makes me think this foster family is connected to the Mosque or is a devout muslim family. Not sure if this is true, but I would assume it to be if the GAL in Fla has a problem with this family. JMO JSM Will read up more about this case because I have been out of the loop today.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 14, 2009, 07:50:16 PM
Rifqa Bary ordered back to Ohio... or Sri Lanka?
http://www.youtube.com/v/zouc78mEgXg&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1
Thanks Trimm for both videos. Thank God for Fox telling what could happen to her if she is sent back to Ohio or Sri Lanka. Either place they send her, she will be hunted down and killed and if that happens, she will be a martyr for Christ  ::MonkeyWaa::. Sad thing is she will be dead, but maybe laws will be changed for children like her.

JMO JSM





Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 14, 2009, 08:38:27 PM

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/breaking-mohamed-barys-missing-immigration-documents-status-illegal.html

Check out Mohamed Bary's missing immigration documents. Mr. Bary lost his application for amnesty. He lost his appeal for reconsideration of the administrative law judge's denial of that amnesty application, (or, application for change of status to temporary resident legal alien, to be more precise.)

He and his family are subject to immediate deportation and further exclusion. He claimed he came to America to tend to Rifqa's eye, when in fact he came illegally through Mexico (according to the document) and the "doting" father never got Rifqa medical treatment.

PLEASE MONKEYS READ THE LINK ABOVE It has the redacted documents that were released.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 09:28:10 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21297827/detail.html
Could Convert Runaway Rifqa Be Deported?

Posted: 5:20 pm EDT October 14, 2009Updated: 7:51 am EDT October 15, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There are new questions about whether Rifqa Bary could be deported. Tuesday, a judge ordered the teenager back to Ohio on the condition that her parents could document that they were in the country legally.

Bary ran away because she feared being sent back to her native Sri Lanka and killed for converting from Islam to Christianity.

As of Wednesday afternoon, there was no paperwork provided by Rifqa’s parents and the dispute could get her whole family deported.

Eyewitness News spoke to an immigration attorney and he said if the Barys are in the country illegally, the Department of Homeland Security will start the deportation process.

"She is currently, based on what we have been provided to date, an undocumented person in this country,” Immigration attorney Shazad Ahmed said.

Rifqa Bary's court-appointed attorney raised the idea that the girl could be sent back to her native Sri Lanka. Her parents have told the courts they are in the country legally, but so far have been unable to prove their immigration status.

“It’s not that hard. You make a copy and you give it your attorney,” Ahmed said.
The Barys have told the court they are in the country on an L-1 visa. Those are typically issued to overseas business owners who want to open a branch in the U.S. Bary's father has said he is a jeweler.

In order for the annual visa to stay current, a business owner is required to keep both businesses open in both countries and show the company is making money. The owner must also keep up paperwork.

Ahmed has seen quite a few visas revoked.

“It’s not uncommon,” he said.

The attorney said, if the Barys aren't in the country legally, Rifqa could hire an attorney and apply for a visa herself. She would have to show a hardship.

“One might be eligible for asylum based on fear of going back to their home country. They might be persecuted, one example,” Ahmed said.

The parents’ attorney has said the Barys haven't had time to get together the documents. Until they do, their daughter will stay in Florida.

On October 23, a judge will review Bary's case. If documents are still missing, or if Rifqa is still in Florida, the judge must take action.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 15, 2009, 12:21:01 PM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/mohamad-barys-perjury.html

A Case of Perjury: Mohamed Bary's Vast Web of Lies

Snipped from Pamela's website  ::MonkeyCool::

Yesterday I broke the story of Mohamed Bary's immigration papers, running the exclusive documentation exposing Mohamed Bary's illegal immigration status and perjury here. Please review the documents thoroughly here. Judge Dawson will not return Rifqa to Ohio until Bary provides his immigration documentation -- considering all the laws he broke, it's no wonder he has provided almost nothing.

Bary came into this country illegally through Mexico. This is not the story he told to the press. He alleged he came to the States to seek medical treatment for Rifqa's eye, lost at the hands of her brother (another lie the family told. They said Rifqa fell and did it to herself). But the father never got Rifqa medical treatment. Her eye was never treated.

The entire Bary family is here illegally. Rifqa's lawyers should apply for asylum immediately. If she is returned to her country, her life would be in immediate danger. Here is the status of Sri Lanka Christians.

"Religious liberty is threatened in Sri Lanka like never before. While acts of violence against Christians have escalated, political leaders lobby for legislation restricting the freedom to change one's religion; a right guaranteed in Article 18 of the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights, of which Sri Lanka is a signatory. Sri Lankan Christians of all denominations and ethnicity are deeply concerned about these developments in our homeland."

Mohamad Bary has sworn entirely contradictory things in the two applications to the U. S. citizenship and immigration service. He lies about everything, so how can we believe anything he says concerning his abuse of his daughter?

Bary came into the country sometime in the late 90's. He opened a corporation. Somehow he got an L1 visa. If you read that decision they have there, posted from 2005, apparently this was filed in 2002, it has an 02 code number which means it was filed in the fiscal year of 02.

It says that this was a petition to extend, which means he got it before he was trying to extend it and he obviously successfully got an L1, either having entered the US on a visa and changing his status from visitor to L1, or he might have even gotten the visa there in Colombo, in Sri Lanka and then entered the country. And then he was trying to extend it after he got one year on an initial trial basis. That's how they do it. But he was denied the extension because he wasn't the manager of anything. In other words, the records show that he started out, but by the time the year went by, he had not built up the office into any appreciable operation. They won't issue an extended managerial visa unless you have a more substantial operation.

Bottom line. Mohamed Bary is a traveling gems salesman. There are are a lot of guys like that from India and Sri Lanka and the like, and he got the L1, he wanted to extend it, it took a couple of (unclear) but they denied it.

 Here's the thing, to get an L1 visa in the first place which he did successfully obviously for the first year, back around 2000 or 2001, you have to have been a manager of this multinational enterprise outside of the United States for at least a year. In other words in his original L1 papers, he had to say, yes I have a multinational enterprise, I have this company in my home country, I may have branches elsewhere and I'm opening up a US operation, and I want to transfer myself so I can manage it. The legal base requirement is that you've been living abroad managing that, some branch or office of the company, outside the United States for at least the preceding year.

He alleged in his pleadings that he was living outside the United States prior to getting the L1, he had to, there's no way he could not have. Now on the other hand, the extension was denied in 05', it shows he filed another case in 06', or it might have been in late 05', it was fiscal year 06', you could see the fiscal 06 code number on the other case. The temporary resident case. It could have been filed anywhere from October of 05' up through September of 06', and it was finally denied last year.

And to do that, he dequalified, that's the old Reagan amnesty from the 80's. In other words he alleged that he entered the country unlawfully prior to 1982 or 81' whatever it was, and he would have to have lived, claimed to have lived in the US for at least five years to qualify for that. He claimed this. The record shows that he was living in Sri Lanka back in the late 90's, he had to have said this in his first L1. He got the extension denied, now he comes along after that, "I want to be a temporary resident, and in fact I was living in the US unlawfully from 1981 to 1986" or something like that. That is what he would have had to say to qualify on that amnesty.

 So he's like a big fat liar.

He is lying from one doc to another doc.

 The IMS, now it's called CIS, very often one arm doesn't know what the other arm is doing, one guy gets a case and doesn't read up on the guy's prior record from another case, and they're not good at putting two and two together.

He would have had to alleged that he's lived in the US unlawfully through the first half of the 80's until 85' or 86', somewhere along the way he might have claimed to have gone back to Sri Lanka, and then he would have to have claimed that he was managing his company there in the late 90's, he filed the first L1 around 2000 or 01'.

And then after the L1 was denied he woke up one day and said, hmm, I think I'm still going to file for the Reagan amnesty in 2006, I mean 18 years or 19 years after the deadline. You would have had to apply for that going back to 1987, thereabouts was the deadline. How was that even possible? There were a couple of people who ran around claiming that they were improperly denied the ability to apply for that amnesty, and they had a couple of cases out there, one was filed by Blulak, the Latin American something league, and another was filed by some Catholic social services, it was known as the CSS suit.

The net result is that some courts, some brain dead courts, ruled that they had to keep the application period open beyond the legal deadline which was like more than twenty years ago was the actual deadline. They ruled that they had to keep the applications open. So it was very popular with the south Asians, the Sri Lankans, the Indians, the Pakistanis, a lot of Pakistani and Indian drivers in New York were filing these phony claims, going ten or twenty years after the dead line, saying "yeah, yeah, I did all that stuff, I've been in the US since the early 80's and I was improperly denied the ability to apply. And they just alleged a series of things that match what ever the courts order would qualify. It was a way to get work authorization and be able to work temporarily in the country. That's all it's about and there are many famous cases of people arrested for supplying phony documents to support those cases.



Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: burkieandemme on October 15, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
Just a few questions....

1. If her parents are deported, could Fathima apply for amnesty on her own?
2. Would she have be emancipated first? 
3. If it is found that her family is here illegally, would she be apply for an emancipation?



Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 12:41:04 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21305011/detail.html
Judge: Runaway Convert To Be In Ohio State Custody

Posted: 11:20 am EDT October 15, 2009Updated: 11:23 am EDT October 15, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A central Ohio judge has ruled that the state will take custody of a girl who ran away to Florida saying she feared she'd be killed for converting to Christianity from Islam.

Franklin County Juvenile Court Magistrate Mary Goodrich on Thursday ordered 17-year-old Rifqa Bary to the custody of the county's Children Services agency, pending the confirmation of her immigration status or her return to Ohio.

The decision was supported by lawyers for the girl and for her parents, natives of Sri Lanka.

Bary has been in foster care in Orlando. A Florida judge on Tuesday said he planned to send her to Ohio once he receives immigration and education documents.

Bary ran away from her parents' Columbus-area home in July. A Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to the girl.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 12:51:10 PM

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/breaking-mohamed-barys-missing-immigration-documents-status-illegal.html

Check out Mohamed Bary's missing immigration documents. Mr. Bary lost his application for amnesty. He lost his appeal for reconsideration of the administrative law judge's denial of that amnesty application, (or, application for change of status to temporary resident legal alien, to be more precise.)

He and his family are subject to immediate deportation and further exclusion. He claimed he came to America to tend to Rifqa's eye, when in fact he came illegally through Mexico (according to the document) and the "doting" father never got Rifqa medical treatment.

PLEASE MONKEYS READ THE LINK ABOVE It has the redacted documents that were released.  ::MonkeyEek::

Bumping for Burkie.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 01:01:26 PM
Burkie,I found this about amnesty.   ::MonkeyAngel::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_of_minors


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 15, 2009, 01:26:26 PM
Just a few questions....

1. If her parents are deported, could Fathima apply for amnesty on her own?
2. Would she have be emancipated first? 
3. If it is found that her family is here illegally, would she be apply for an emancipation?



From what I have read if the parents are deported, she will be deported as well. She would have to ask for amnesty from the country she is deported to (Sri Lanka), well if her family asked for amnesty for religious persecution they would in fact be telling the court that because they are being sent back, because Rifqa is a Christian and it blows their case out of the water. (because they have said no one would harm her even though she is a Christian).

I did read one comment on Pamela's site that said a Congressman could esentially sponsor her and right a bill or something to get her fast tracked as a US citizen. It happened in the 2006 Winter Olympics for Tanith Belbin, so she could get her citizenship and they could skate.

That is all I know. If you read the links above, not what I posted, but on Atlas Shrugs it gives more in depth info than what I bring over. Read the comments in the comment sections too. They are much smarter than me over there. Plus Pamela is a wonderful person and she has a WONDERFUL blog IMO.

Thanks for worrying about Rifqa.

JSM


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 15, 2009, 01:30:20 PM
Snipped from Atlas Shrugs......

Rifqa's status is derivate to her parents, Sooner or later with all this attention, the parents are extremely deportable, the only thing is that some of these Islamic groups or others might plead with the government to give them some special dispensation.

 On what grounds? Knowing CAIR you can bet they'll belch racism or some such nonsense.

Whatever it is, they'll claim something or other, whether that's granted or not ......

Whether Rifqa deserves to be given some kind of asylum under those conditions if they're going back to Sri Lanka, that's a separate issue. She clearly has a case for it.

The Barys could makethe argument that they can't go back to Sri Lanka because their daughter is a Christian and the family would be persecuted, but then that's a catch 22 because  they would have to admit that the death penalty/shariah law was indeed a very real threat to the girl's life because she  committed the high crime of apostasy which they're denying. Ah the tangled web we weave.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/mohamad-barys-perjury.html


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 15, 2009, 05:08:00 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21307602/detail.html
Ohio To Take Custody Of Religious Runaway
Bary Says She Fled Home, Fearing For Life

POSTED: 3:32 pm EDT October 15, 2009
UPDATED: 4:11 pm EDT October 15, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A central Ohio judge has ruled that the state will take custody of a girl who ran away to Florida, saying she feared she'd be killed for converting to Christianity from Islam.

A Franklin County Juvenile Court Magistrate ordered Rifqa Bary, 17, to the custody of the county's Children Services agency.

This is pending the confirmation of her immigration status or her return to Ohio.

The decision was supported by lawyers for the girl and for her parents.

Bary has been in foster care in Orlando.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: burkieandemme on October 16, 2009, 01:51:57 PM
Thank you Trimm and JSM for answering my questions.   ::MonkeyAngel::

One more, and this one might be a bit outdated...
What about the notion of sanctuary?  From my understanding Fathima could go to a Catholic Church and claim sanctuary.  This could give her the protection she needs until she can obtain her citizenship.   


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary#Relating_to_political_asylum
Sanctuary of immigrants: These sites included university campuses and cities. From the 1980s continuing into the 2000s, there also have been instances of churches providing "sanctuary" for short periods to migrants facing deportation in Germany, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Australia, the United States, and Canada, among other nations.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 21, 2009, 09:34:01 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/21/religious_runaway_could_be_closer_to_ohio_return.html
 Religious Runaway Could Be Closer To Ohio Return
Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:35:17 AM
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- A teenager who said she ran away from her Ohio home to Florida because she feared physical harm for converting from Islam to Christianity could be closer to returning to her home state.

A Department of Children and Families spokeswoman said Tuesday that the agency filed documentation that confirms 17-year-old Rifqa
Bary could continue her education through a Florida virtual school even if she were sent back to Ohio.

Earlier this month, a Florida judge said he planned to send her back to Ohio. Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson said he will sign an order when he gets documents on Rifqa Bary's immigration status as well as papers showing her education at an online Florida high school won't be interrupted.

No date was set for her return.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 22, 2009, 04:47:59 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/21394962/detail.html
Transcripts Shows Inconsistencies In Teen Convert’s Story

Posted: 3:50 pm EDT October 22, 2009Updated: 4:05 pm EDT October 22, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Eyewitness News obtained transcripts (read) Thursday of religious runaway Rifqa Bary’s interview with Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) agents. The interview was recorded on August 24, 2009.

Rifqa Bary, 17, said her father abused her and she ran to Florida for safety after she converted from Islam to Christianity. The documents released Thursday also show who paid for Bary's bus ticket to Orlando.
There was a lot of emotion in Rifqa Bary's voice as she talked about alleged abuse by her father.

"I don't have to live in fear of my dad, I won’t get hit," Bary stated during the interview.

“You're here now," Agent David Lee said.

"Ok, I'm sorry," she replied.

The interview was in August, but FDLE agents found no evidence that Rifqa Bary's father ever abused her. In fact, the transcripts released Thursday seem to show inconsistencies in the 17-year-old’s statements to investigators as she talked of living in a Muslim home.

"Even though you're in America these are our laws, I couldn't be a normal teenager," Bary said.

But agents found Bary was a cheerleader at her high school and worked summers at a Chinese food restaurant.

The transcripts revealed more details into her bus trip to Orlando and her effort to protect the Christian church members who helped her.

"Who did you call to arrange the ticket?” agent Lee asked.

"I left, yeah," she answered.
You called somebody to arrange the ticket," he asked.

"Really?" asked Rifqa.

"The ticket was purchased here in Orlando," Lee stated.

“Yeah," she said.

In Orlando, Bary initially lived with Pastor Blake Lorenz and his wife. According to the transcripts, one of Lorenz's church members picked Rifqa up at the bus station and paid for the ticket.

“You contacted John Law, John Law took care of buying the ticket," Lee said.

"Um-hum," she answered. "Yeah they are the ones who came to pick me up."

“Who is 'they'?” Lee asked.

"John Law and his wife," she replied.

Bary went on to describe her time with the Lorenz’s as “the best weeks of her life” she said they loved her like a mother and father.

Rifqa Bary is currently in a Florida foster home as she awaits her fate. A Florida judge has ruled that Bary return to Ohio once he's satisfied that her parents are in the United States legally.
Transcripts      http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21394676/detail.html


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 22, 2009, 05:01:23 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21394624/detail.html
Documents Released In Religious Runaway Case

POSTED: 3:16 pm EDT October 22, 2009
UPDATED: 4:51 pm EDT October 22, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Florida Department of Law Enforcement released Thursday an interview with the so-called religious runaway who claimed she fled her parents' home in Ohio for fear she would be killed after converting to Christianity.

Earlier this month, a judge ruled that Rifqa Bary, 17, would return to Columbus, Ohio to live in a foster home after a report from FDLE showed no evidence that her father assaulted her and threatened to kill her in an "honor killing."

Over 100 pages of an Aug. 24 interview with Bary was released Thursday
In the transcript, Bary details her Muslim upbringing, which has been the center of why she fled to Orlando.

"After we came to Ohio, my parents were very fixated on not losing honor, way of life, you know, even though we're in America, you know these are our laws and you don't ... I couldn't be a normal teenager. I have to follow, for example, there's a lot of dress codes. There was food codes," she said in an interview with FDLE.

Bary told an agent that she was worried not only about her parents, but about the Islamic community, which she said found out about her conversion to Christianity through the social networking Web site Facebook.

In the released interview, Bary also spoke about wanting love and approval from her parents.

"Before I became a believer four years ago, I mean, I, to see my dad smile when I read the Koran and memorized it, I, I yearned for love. You know, the only way that my dad was proud of me was when I memorized pages from the Koran and I would sit there and he was just so proud that his daughter was learning all these things but I, yeah, I did follow everything before I came to know the Lord," Bary said.

The teenager told FDLE that when she decided to leave home for fear for her life she wrote her family a note reading, "Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and I refuse to deny him. I pray and hope you find his mercy and forgiveness. Love you both dearly, Rifqa."

The question of who picked the runaway up from the Greyhound bus station was also answered in the interview. Bary said pastors at the Global Revolution Church, John and Wendy Law. She said the Laws picked her up and took her to live with the head pastors of the church, Beverly and Blake Lorenz.

Bary said the Lorenz family bought her clothes and that her every need was taken care of, and that Beverly Lorenz would hug Bary and tell her she loved her.

Earlier this month, FDLE said that it found no evidence backing up Rifqa's claims. Specifically, the FDLE said no assault charges were ever filed against Bary, it found no evidence of any planned "honor killing" and that Rifqa's older brother said he never saw either of their parents physically abuse her.
PDF   http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1022/21395562.pdf


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 22, 2009, 07:32:36 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/22/news_13_exclusive_pastor_who_took_in_religious_runaway_speaks.html
News 13 Exclusive: Pastor Who Took In Religious Runaway Speaks
Thursday, October 22, 2009 6:00:28 PM
Reported By Kelli Cook

ORLANDO -- On the eve of finding out if the courts have received the necessary immigration documents to send religious runaway Rifqa Bary back to Ohio, News 13 spoke exclusively with the man who played a major role in Rifqa's stay in Florida – Pastor Blake Lorenz.

"Oh it has drastically changed our lives forever," Lorenz said.

Lorenz is talking about the day a 16-year-old girl showed up at his doorstep, fearing for her safety.

His choice to take in the Ohio runaway would change his life and possibly the way we looked at religion in this country.

"In fact, I've had lawyers and others tell me this is the new civil rights movement for the 21st century in America," Lorenz said.

However, his involvement in this case hasn't been all good news.

Since then, Lorenz and his family have also been at the center of a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation.

Lorenz is no longer with his beloved Global Revolution Church.
The governing board decided to split ways with the church congregation.

"You'd have to talk to them, we would say yes, that it was because of Rifqa that these things happened," Lorenz said.

There was also the criticism from the public on why he involved himself so much in this case in the first place.

"(Why not call the police immediately when she showed up?)  So she showed up afraid of her life we wanted to get to know her. We wanted to know if her story was true or not," Lorenz said.
 
We're hours away from finding out if the judge has gotten the necessary immigration and education documents to send her back to Ohio.

"If she does go back to Ohio, they're very good up in Ohio, so I'm sure they will protect her. My concern is as well as others is she is very fearful of going back there, so why send someone back who is very fearful," Lorenz said.

Lorenz said now that his involvement has come to an end, he's continuing on with his life at his now new named church called Encounter, and knowing that when it came to Rifqa Bary, he did the right thing.

"Rifqa's safe and she's alive," Lorenz said.

News 13 also asked Lorenz who bought Rifqa's Greyhound bus ticket. He said he couldn't say, but wanted to make it clear that it wasn't him.
Video    http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=RifqaBlakeRaww_102220090508&cat=Local&title=Pastor%20Lorenz%20Speaks%20With%20News%2013


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on October 22, 2009, 09:47:37 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/22/news_13_exclusive_pastor_who_took_in_religious_runaway_speaks.html
News 13 Exclusive: Pastor Who Took In Religious Runaway Speaks
Thursday, October 22, 2009 6:00:28 PM
Reported By Kelli Cook

ORLANDO -- On the eve of finding out if the courts have received the necessary immigration documents to send religious runaway Rifqa Bary back to Ohio, News 13 spoke exclusively with the man who played a major role in Rifqa's stay in Florida – Pastor Blake Lorenz.

"Oh it has drastically changed our lives forever," Lorenz said.

Lorenz is talking about the day a 16-year-old girl showed up at his doorstep, fearing for her safety.

His choice to take in the Ohio runaway would change his life and possibly the way we looked at religion in this country.

"In fact, I've had lawyers and others tell me this is the new civil rights movement for the 21st century in America," Lorenz said.

However, his involvement in this case hasn't been all good news.

Since then, Lorenz and his family have also been at the center of a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation.

Lorenz is no longer with his beloved Global Revolution Church.
The governing board decided to split ways with the church congregation.

"You'd have to talk to them, we would say yes, that it was because of Rifqa that these things happened," Lorenz said.

There was also the criticism from the public on why he involved himself so much in this case in the first place.

"(Why not call the police immediately when she showed up?)  So she showed up afraid of her life we wanted to get to know her. We wanted to know if her story was true or not," Lorenz said.
 
We're hours away from finding out if the judge has gotten the necessary immigration and education documents to send her back to Ohio.

"If she does go back to Ohio, they're very good up in Ohio, so I'm sure they will protect her. My concern is as well as others is she is very fearful of going back there, so why send someone back who is very fearful," Lorenz said.

Lorenz said now that his involvement has come to an end, he's continuing on with his life at his now new named church called Encounter, and knowing that when it came to Rifqa Bary, he did the right thing.

"Rifqa's safe and she's alive," Lorenz said.

News 13 also asked Lorenz who bought Rifqa's Greyhound bus ticket. He said he couldn't say, but wanted to make it clear that it wasn't him.
Video    http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=RifqaBlakeRaww_102220090508&cat=Local&title=Pastor%20Lorenz%20Speaks%20With%20News%2013

Rev. Lorenz is a very brave man.  There used to be a woman, whose name I can no longer remember, who ran a sort of underground network to shield children who had been molested from their molesters.  This "Honor killing" perversion is growing in the US, with a man running over his daughter because she would not accept an arranged marriage just a few days ago.  Maybe there is need for an underground network to protect these young girls from their male relatives.  To me, the mere fact that Rifka is terrified to return to her home is enough to not force her back.  What a cruel thing to do.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 23, 2009, 06:48:15 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21400585/detail.html
Decision Expected In Rifqa Bary Case
Religious Runaway Could Be Returned To Ohio

POSTED: 6:12 am EDT October 23, 2009
UPDATED: 6:23 am EDT October 23, 200
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A judge is expected to decide whether to send a religious runaway back to her home state of Ohio on Friday.

Rifqa Bary said she came to Florida because she feared for her life after she converted to Christianity, but an investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement found no evidence that her life was in danger.

The judge assigned to the case set Friday as a deadline for a decision.

Stay with WESH 2 News and WESH.com for further details.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 23, 2009, 09:45:02 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-rifqa-bary-immigration-102309,0,180726.story
As deadline looms, questions arise over Rifqa Bary's immigration status
Rifqa Bary told FDLE investigators her family couldn't travel because of their legal status in America
Amy L. Edwards  Sentinel Staff Writer

8:49 a.m. EDT, October 23, 2009

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As a deadline looms for lawyers to provide her immigration paperwork to an Orange County judge, Fathima Rifqa Bary's own words indicate there may be troubles with her legal status in the United States.

Rifqa's guardian ad litem already raised the possibility that the 17-year-old Ohio teen runaway isn't in the country legally.

And now, the teen's own statements indicate that something may be amiss.

Rifqa told agents with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement during an Aug. 24 interview that her family couldn't travel "because of our legal status here."

"I think my parents are waiting for all that to be sorted out," Rifqa said.

Rifqa's transcribed interview with the state agents was released Thursday by FDLE.
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Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 23, 2009, 03:28:45 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21400585/detail.html
DCF: Court Orders Rifqa Bary Be Returned To Ohio
Religious Runaway To Be Sent To Franklin County Children Services

POSTED: 6:12 am EDT October 23, 2009
UPDATED: 2:50 pm EDT October 23, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Florida Department of Children and Families said a Florida court has ordered it to arrange for Rifqa Bary to be transported to Ohio.

Bary, 17, said she left her suburban Columbus home and came to Florida because she feared for her life after she converted to Christianity, but an investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement found no evidence that her life was in danger.

DCF said Judge Daniel Dawson's order relinquished the court's emergency jurisdiction and instructed DCF to transport the teenager to Franklin County Children Services in Ohio.

Dawson was waiting for the teenager's education and immigration papers before moving the case to Ohio.

In an interview with FDLE investigators, Bary discussed abuse, a prearranged marriage and her decision to come to Florida.

"I would have not hopped on a bus for 27 hours and all this happened if I thought I was going to be ostracized from my family," Bary said.

Bary said threats from her Muslim father contributed to her decision to get on a bus from Ohio to Florida after she became a Christian. Bary said she chose the destination because it was far away and she had friends in Florida.

The FDLE report said John Law, a member of the Global Revolution Church, bought Bary's bus ticket, and when she arrived, she stayed with the pastors of the church, Beverly and Blake Lorenz.

Bary told investigators they were very loving, and it paints a different picture than time spent recently with her own parents.

"The day had finally come where I was confronted: What was I going to do? Do I deny Jesus? 'What are you going to do? Are you going to die? Seriously, Rifqa, think about it.' And I remember yelling, 'Dad, stop,' and he threatened me. 'I will kill you. Tell me the truth,'" Bary said.

Authorities haven't discovered any evidence of abuse or threats, and the teenager's father denied the claims.‬


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 23, 2009, 05:51:54 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21400585/detail.html
DCF: Court Orders Rifqa Bary Be Returned To Ohio
Religious Runaway To Be Sent To Franklin County Children Services

POSTED: 6:12 am EDT October 23, 2009
UPDATED: 5:06 pm EDT October 23, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Florida Department of Children and Families said a Florida court has ordered it to arrange for Rifqa Bary to be transported to Ohio.

Bary, 17, said she left her suburban Columbus home and came to Florida because she feared for her life after she converted to Christianity, but an investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement found no evidence that her life was in danger.

Judge Daniel Dawson's order relinquished the court's emergency jurisdiction and instructed DCF to transport the teenager to Franklin County Children Services in Ohio. Authorities are not releasing details on the move, but said she will not be transferred on Friday to give Ohio time to prepare for her arrival.

DCF spokeswoman Carrie Hoeppner said Ohio has a foster home ready for the teenager and that DCF is not concerned that Bary will run away again.

"I think that since she is moving to Ohio, to protective custody, to a foster home alleviates some of the concerns it appear she has," Hoeppner said.

Dawson was waiting for the teenager's education and immigration papers before moving the case to Ohio.
n an interview with FDLE investigators, Bary discussed abuse, a prearranged marriage and her decision to come to Florida.

"I would have not hopped on a bus for 27 hours and all this happened if I thought I was going to be ostracized from my family," Bary said.

Bary said threats from her Muslim father contributed to her decision to get on a bus from Ohio to Florida after she became a Christian. Bary said she chose the destination because it was far away and she had friends in Florida.

The FDLE report said John Law, a member of the Global Revolution Church, bought Bary's bus ticket, and when she arrived, she stayed with the pastors of the church, Beverly and Blake Lorenz.

Bary told investigators they were very loving, and it paints a different picture than time spent recently with her own parents.

"The day had finally come where I was confronted: What was I going to do? Do I deny Jesus? 'What are you going to do? Are you going to die? Seriously, Rifqa, think about it.' And I remember yelling, 'Dad, stop,' and he threatened me. 'I will kill you. Tell me the truth,'" Bary said.
Authorities haven't discovered any evidence of abuse or threats, and the teenager's father denied the claims.‬


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 27, 2009, 11:47:34 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/21437369/detail.html
Judge Limits Bary's Phone, Internet Use
Ohio Magistrate Issues Order

POSTED: 10:46 am EDT October 27, 2009
UPDATED: 10:55 am EDT October 27, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- An Ohio judge has ordered the state to supervise the telephone and Internet use of a teenage girl who says she ran away to Florida because she feared her father would harm or kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity.

Franklin County Juvenile Magistrate Mary Goodrich put the restrictions on Rifqa Bary, 17, at the request of the county children's services agency. Bary is to be placed in the agency's custody when she returns to Ohio.

Jim Zorn, an agency attorney, said Bary's use of Facebook was one issue that led to the girl's situation.

Kort Gatterdam, an attorney representing the girl, opposed the request, saying problems were caused by a conflict between the girl and her parents, not the Internet. Her father has denied the girl's claims.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on October 27, 2009, 12:29:20 PM
What a crock, a 17 year old being told she has to be monitored on her FB account? WTF, no offense to Fanny, Lovin and other OHio monkeys, but your state is F'ed up.

I would like to know if the new foster family are Muslim. I wouldn't doubt it.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 27, 2009, 01:07:41 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21437560/detail.html
Runaway Convert Sent Back To Ohio
Rifqa's Phone, Internet Use Monitored

POSTED: Tuesday, October 27, 2009
UPDATED: 12:57 pm EDT October 27, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Religious Runaway Rifqa Bary has been safely transported back to Ohio, Department of Children and Families officials confirmed on Tuesday.
An Orlando judge ordered that Rifqa be sent back to Ohio last Friday. The teen said she ran away to Orlando in July because she feared her father would harm or kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity.

According to a release from DCF, custody of Rifqa was transferred to Franklin County Child Services Tuesday morning.

Meanwhile, an Ohio judge on Tuesday ordered the state to supervise Rifqa's telephone and Internet use.

Franklin County Juvenile Magistrate Mary Goodrich put the restrictions on Bary, 17, at the request of the county children's services agency. The girl, of suburban New Albany, is to be placed in the agency's custody when she returns to Ohio.

Bary disappeared July 19 and police used phone and computer records to track her to the Rev. Blake Lorenz, pastor of Orlando, Fla.-based Global Revolution Church.

Authorities said the teen had met him online, through a prayer group on Facebook.

Bary's father has denied the girl's claims and a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to the girl.

Bary's use of Facebook was one issue that led to the situation, said Jim Zorn, a children's services attorney, who asked Goodrich to restrict Bary from using the Internet and her cell phone.
"What we want to restrict is the other people, the other organizations, the other forces, that have interjected themselves into this case inappropriately, and has caused the additional problems that we've seen," Zorn said.

The girl's parents supported the restrictions, saying through their attorney they were concerned about her interacting with adults over the Internet.

"As you know, there's a lot of danger and concern about that with children," said their attorney, Omar Tarazi.

Kort Gatterdam, an attorney representing the girl, opposed the request, saying problems were caused by a conflict between the girl and her parents, not the Internet.

"We're making some assumptions, without evidence in the record, that she has done something improper talking to people on Facebook. There's no evidence of that," Gatterdam told the judge.

"If the goal here is normalcy and reunification or whatever, this is not the way to go," Gatterdam said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Ariana on October 28, 2009, 01:21:29 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21437560/detail.html
Runaway Convert Sent Back To Ohio
Rifqa's Phone, Internet Use Monitored

POSTED: Tuesday, October 27, 2009
UPDATED: 12:57 pm EDT October 27, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Religious Runaway Rifqa Bary has been safely transported back to Ohio, Department of Children and Families officials confirmed on Tuesday.
An Orlando judge ordered that Rifqa be sent back to Ohio last Friday. The teen said she ran away to Orlando in July because she feared her father would harm or kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity.

According to a release from DCF, custody of Rifqa was transferred to Franklin County Child Services Tuesday morning.

Meanwhile, an Ohio judge on Tuesday ordered the state to supervise Rifqa's telephone and Internet use.

Franklin County Juvenile Magistrate Mary Goodrich put the restrictions on Bary, 17, at the request of the county children's services agency. The girl, of suburban New Albany, is to be placed in the agency's custody when she returns to Ohio.

Bary disappeared July 19 and police used phone and computer records to track her to the Rev. Blake Lorenz, pastor of Orlando, Fla.-based Global Revolution Church.

Authorities said the teen had met him online, through a prayer group on Facebook.

Bary's father has denied the girl's claims and a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to the girl.

Bary's use of Facebook was one issue that led to the situation, said Jim Zorn, a children's services attorney, who asked Goodrich to restrict Bary from using the Internet and her cell phone.
"What we want to restrict is the other people, the other organizations, the other forces, that have interjected themselves into this case inappropriately, and has caused the additional problems that we've seen," Zorn said.

The girl's parents supported the restrictions, saying through their attorney they were concerned about her interacting with adults over the Internet.

"As you know, there's a lot of danger and concern about that with children," said their attorney, Omar Tarazi.

Kort Gatterdam, an attorney representing the girl, opposed the request, saying problems were caused by a conflict between the girl and her parents, not the Internet.

"We're making some assumptions, without evidence in the record, that she has done something improper talking to people on Facebook. There's no evidence of that," Gatterdam told the judge.

"If the goal here is normalcy and reunification or whatever, this is not the way to go," Gatterdam said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


I think they are doing that to prevent her from running away again.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Toler on October 28, 2009, 03:11:23 PM
Help Links Info Contact CALL TO ACTIONRifqa's life is in great dangerFrom Jamal Jivanjee...

To all those who value life,

Please take a few minutes to consider the life of our sister in the faith Rifqa Bary, which is once again in grave jeopardy. On Tuesday October 27’th, Rifqa Bary was handed over to Ohio authorities for placement in foster care in Franklin County. Over the previous weekend, a very unfortunate deal was made by Rifqa’s former Florida Guardian Ad Litem, Krista Bartholomew, with Rifqa’s parent’s attorney David Colley that allowed Rifqa to be transferred back to Ohio. The gist of this (behind the scenes) deal was the following:

1. Because Rifqa’s parents are in the U.S. illegally, they refused and defied numerous court orders to produce documents detailing their immigration status. As a result, Rifqa’s parents were in danger of being arrested for contempt of court. The Florida judge who had emergency jurisdiction over the case said that even though the jurisdiction is transferred to Ohio, he was not going to release her until they produced the proper documentation that satisfied the court.

Well, in order to have the immigration issue go away for Rifqa’s parents, Mohammad Bary’s attorney, David Colley, cut a ‘behind the scenes’ deal in which the Florida court would drop the contempt of court issue regarding their immigration situation in exchange for an assurance that they would leave Rifqa alone and let her stay in foster care for the next 9 months until she is 18. This sounded like it was too good to be true, and it was! As soon as Rifqa was transferred into Ohio custody and the Florida court gave up their emergency jurisdiction over Rifqa and the immigration issue, Rifqa’s parents fired their own attorney that made the deal! Simply put, now that Rifqa was in ‘favorable’ hands in Ohio, all deals are off! They trusted Rifqa's parents hoping they would live up to their word, and because of this, Rifqa is in a dangerous situation and there is nothing the Florida court can do now because the (G.A.L.) gave the entire house away! Let this be a lesson about Mohammad Bary's real intentions.

In my opinion, this was all part of a premeditated plan on the part of Rifqa’s parents and the organization called C.A.I.R. who has been advising them according to the Florida department of law enforcement report released to the public. They have since hired a Muslim activist attorney named Omar Tarazi that is no doubt influenced by the mafia like C.A.I.R. organization whose sole agenda is to paint a positive picture of Islam in America at any cost. (The slander of the Lorenz family and the slander of 17 year old Rifqa’s own character by releasing her prayer journals to the media are perfect examples of how C.A.I.R. ruthlessly operates to accomplish their agenda.)

They completely went back on the agreement that they made to leave Rifqa alone, and I believe they now are planning to continue to pursue to get her back against Rifqa’s will. C.A.I.R. wants her silenced both now, and in the future, because they know that Rifqa’s story of abuse is common among many Muslim families. Apostasy in Islam is not something they want to shine a light on. They know that as her story gets out there, there will be a massive exodus of Muslims just like her. Indeed, it has already begun!

2. If that was not bad enough, Rifqa went back to a hostile environment in Ohio right away. In an article posted on Saturday October 24’th, three days before her return to Ohio, the Columbus Dispatch reported that Eric Fenner, the executive director of Franklin County Children Services, has said that he has stated that he “has no reason to believe that Rifqa wouldn’t be safe with her parents.” Remember this is coming from the very person who has charge over protecting her!

Rifqa then arrived back to Ohio on Tuesday October 27’th. Upon her arrival came a new set of restrictions that her parents and Muslim attorneys have been trying to impose on her from the beginning…solitary confinement! While Rifqa was being protected in Florida, they repeatedly tried to separate Rifqa from other Christians that she leaned on for strength and encouragement. Rifqa’s Muslim parents have been saying from the beginning that they don’t believe that Rifqa became a Christian on her own accord, rather they believe that her real problem is that she has been brain washed by other people through facebook and over the phone.

Immediately upon Rifqa’s arrival to Ohio, came new draconian measures to limit her freedom already! Franklin County Juvenile Magistrate Mary Goodrich put these restrictions on Rifqa at the request of the Franklin county children's services agency immediately upon her arrival back to the state of Ohio.
“Bary's use of Facebook was one issue that led to the situation, said Jim Zorn, a children's services attorney, who asked Goodrich to restrict Bary from using the Internet and her cell phone. "What we want to restrict is the other people, the other organizations, the other forces, that have interjected themselves into this case inappropriately, and has caused the additional problems that we've seen," Zorn said.

Zorn’s account of Rifqa’s situation is absolutely false! Where is he getting his information? It seems as if the Ohio director of children’s services in Franklin County is reading right out of the C.A.I.R. and radical Muslim playbook for this case. Facebook did not in any way lead to this situation. What led to this situation was the fact that a very bright and intelligent girl decided to leave Islam and become a Christian. According to numerous passages in the Qur’an and other Islamic scriptures, this is called apostasy and is punishable by death. Like many others all over the world, Rifqa faced this threat of death, or even deportation back to Sri-Lanka by her own family along with pressure from the Columbus Ohio mosque that her family was actively apart of.

What crime did Rifqa Bary commit that she would be held with such restrictions from communicating to the outside world? While it is legal for 17 year old girls in this country to have abortions without parental agreement, this 17 year old girl is forbidden to have unrestricted access to her phone or facebook friends of her choosing! Is she under house arrest because she is a Christian? This sounds like Sharia law in Ohio!

Immediate Call to Action:

Before I get into the specifics of how we can help, let me say this about a very common misunderstanding that many Christians have regarding God’s sovereignty and fighting for justice. Many of my well meaning brothers and sisters in the church have wondered what the balance is between sitting back, trusting God, and actively fighting for justice. Some have said that because I am fighting for justice in Rifqa’s situation, I am taking the situation in my hands and I am not trusting that God is sovereign over this situation. That is ridiculous to say the least. First of all there is a tremendous amount of support in scripture that commands the people of God to not remain silent in the face of injustice, and to speak and defend those who cannot defend themselves. For time’s sake, I will not list those passages here. If you need help finding these scriptures along with their proper context, let me know and I’d be glad to help direct you to the appropriate passages.

All actions of justice should come from a heart of prayer first and foremost. It is from this place of prayer and intimacy with the Lord that we will find the courage, specific direction, and strength to understand and actually do what He is calling us to do! While not everyone will be called to do the same thing, the Lord will burden our hearts for the things that burden His heart as well. His sovereign heart and actions are carried out through the church, which is simply people! We cannot separate ourselves from this. We are His body, His hands, His feet, His mouth, etc…

A lack of a proper understanding between God’s sovereignty and His heart for justice is what allowed the church to sit passively by in Nazi Germany as Jewish people were slaughtered by the millions while Christians were paralyzed by fear and did nothing. Corrie Ten Boom was an exception to the rule. She was not afraid, and she knew what God had called her to do. There should have been millions of Corrie Ten Booms in Germany at that time. This same cowardice and passivity is also what has allowed over 3000 children to be murdered by abortion each and every day in this nation with little or no outcry in prayer and public against this tragedy. We must get this right! Now with that said, here are some specific things we can do for Rifqa right now:

Since most of Rifqa’s Florida support base is cut off from her, and she is now under the care of authorities that do not take the threat to her life seriously, I would like to ask you to help them understand that Rifqa is not alone and that there are many people who will not sit idly by while Rifqa is sent back to her demise. This does make a difference. Rifqa’s story must continue to be told for her sake, and for the sake of many others! Feel free to repost this article and pass it along to anyone you would like for the sake of getting the word out.

Please contact Franklin County Children Services, and the Ohio governor’s office at the following addresses and let them know that you want Rifqa to be able to have the basic freedoms to communicate to the outside world, and that she needs to be protected from her parents & the radical Islamic community:

http://rifqabary.com/


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 03, 2009, 05:30:36 PM
Can you say 'HELLO' .......

1 recent example of millions...

Iraqi woman run over by father in US in 'honour killing'
A young Iraqi woman was run over by her father in a car in an alleged honour killing in the United States after her behaviour became "too Western", police said. MORE>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6496552/Iraqi-woman-run-over-by-father-in-US-in-honour-killing.html

Edit to add the link to the thread here at Scared Monkeys in News of the Day (feel free to go there and comment or add additiional information)  MB: 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6413.0


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on November 08, 2009, 09:22:56 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/true-to-islam-muslims-ratchet-up-grave-death-threats-to-rifqa-bary.html

I have reported on many occasions on the number of death threats Rifqa Bary has been receiving from Muslims bent on enforcing the death penalty for apostasy. I spent some time last night with a former Muslim and now a believer in Christ. Safeyia was a young, lovely woman, much like Rifqa, who spoke of the terrible difficulties apostates face. Safeyia came to Texas for "An Evening with Pamela Geller". Safeya lives under a fatwa her uncle issued on her.

Come to Rifqa's Rally 11/16! Columbus, Ohio, at Noon
The jihad against Rifqa is the same violent ideology that mowed down the righteous men and women at Fort Hood. Would General Casey worry about insulting Muslim sensibilities by attempting to keep safe victims of apostasy fatwas and honor killings?

SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR RIFQA: STAND FOR FREEDOM OF RELIGION. JOIN THE RALLY FOR RIFQA NOVEMBER 16.

JSM is EDITING out the BAD FOUL LANGUAGE or at least tryiing to, read the link above and you will see the horrible post in all it's foul mouthed glory

Here's the latest:

This message was sent from:
http://rifqabary.com/contact.html

Name of sender: Amanullah Khan
Email of sender: amanullahkhan666@yahoo.com
------------------------- COMMENTS -------------------------

F*CK OFF B*TCH!!

Hope you're having a good time s*cking that mother fu*king pasture's c*ck....

Your mother,father and brother must be killed not YOU. Your actions are a result of their failure to protect you from these c*ck-sucking creeps.
I don't hate you for what you've done. I hate you because you've tainted the image of ISLAM. I wouldn't have even bothered but you left me no choice. YOU AMERICANS LEAVE US NO CHOICE. I don't blame you, you're a product of your "self-consumed", "self-indulgent" society. If not, you would never leave your father, mother and your family for good or for worse. You know what's the best thing to do in this world? It's not sitting in some church or praying at a mosque, but to love your own flesh and blood, love your family and live with them. "SACRIFICE" , that is what any family, does for its children. Won't your father and mother accept you for what you are? After all, you're their only daughter. Parents never leave their children for their mistakes, no matter small or big. Did you ever find interest in knowing what faith was your father, mother  following? NO. Because they never did. They never taught you anything except for cheer-leading. They, and parents like them must be killed and not their children, NOT YOU!
I am warning you, STOP BLAMING ISLAM, stop it! Blame your mother-f*cking, hippocrate parents instead.

PLEASE READ THE LINK ABOVE, PLEASE!! It shows Facebook pages threatening Rifqa,


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on November 19, 2009, 08:23:39 PM
Robert Spencer at Rifqa's rally. Sorry I am late posting, been really behind with my mom.
http://www.youtube.com/v/DdgW6dWVScA&color1


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on November 19, 2009, 08:26:29 PM
MORE FROM RIFQA'S RALLY

God bless the supporters that were there for Rifqa, because she needs all the help she can get.

http://blip.tv/play/AYGv3QIC


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 01, 2009, 01:16:34 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,578386,00.html?test=latestnews
Plan Calls for Teen Christian Convert, Muslim Parents to Talk About Religion

Tuesday, December 01, 2009
 The runaway teen Muslim convert to Christianity who made national headlines when she ran away should talk to her parents about religion when they are reunited, according to a proposal filed in Ohio.

A government caseworker outlined a plan calling for Rifqa Bary, 17, and her parents to listen to each other's views on religion.

Bary needs to hear out her parents' explanation of their beliefs when she goes home, according to the proposal filed in Franklin County Juvenile Court. In turn, her parents must listen to Bary explain her newfound Christianity.

The goal is for both sides to better understand why the teenager ran away to Florida over the summer and stayed with a Christian family she met online.

SLIDESHOW: Christian Convert Fears Family

Bary has said she feared her father would harm or kill her for converting from Islam. Her father has denied the claim. A Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to the girl.

The plan leaves open the possibility that the girl may never return home.
Bary was sent back to Ohio last month, where she is in the care of the county children's services agency. Her phone and Internet usage is being closely monitored to comply with a judge's ruling.

Bary, of suburban New Albany, disappeared July 19. Police used phone and computer records to track her to the Rev. Blake Lorenz, pastor of Orlando, Fla.-based Global Revolution Church.

Authorities said the teen had met him through a prayer group on Facebook.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 01, 2009, 01:22:03 PM
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34612

Rifqa Bary In Solitary Confinement
by  Pamela Geller
12/01/2009
The vise is tightening further on Rifqa Bary, the teenage girl who converted to Christianity from Islam and then fled to Florida from her Ohio home in fear for her life. Now she is in foster care in Ohio, in imminent danger of being returned to her family, and the Ohio authorities, at the command of the Barys’ lawyer, continue to isolate her.

Rifqa Bary has been in Ohio for well over a month and still there is no “approved visitation” list of friends who are allowed to see her. How can this be? How can it be that friends who request a visit, and whom Rifqa requests to visit, are repeatedly told that “there is no approved visitation list”? Is it not the very mission by objective of children’s services to protect the health and welfare of a child? Why has this one child in particular been denied visits from friends?

Rifqa has also been deprived of access to the phone and Internet. She has also been denied “pastoral guidance.” Convicts, murderers, rapists, and pedophiles all have access to “pastoral guidance.” Rifqa’s close friend and fellow ex-Muslim, Christian pastor Jamal Jivanjee, explains: “If you are incarcerated in an American prison today, you have the right to have a visit from a Pastor. Rifqa Bary does not have this most basic right that most criminals have today.” Is that how powerful and influential Islamic supremacists have become in the state of Ohio -- that one young girl is starved of spiritual nourishment so as not to insult Islam?
Jivanjee experienced this firsthand when he was in Columbus and learned that Rifqa wanted to see him. Jivanjee notes that this young girl is under unique pressure: “Unlike most girls her age, Rifqa wonders how long she’ll be in a safe home, or how long before the Ohio court system extradites her back to her parents custody that she fled from out of fear for her life. Many expect that she’ll be taken back to Sri Lanka immediately if that is the case. Because of Rifqa’s apostasy from Islam and conversion to Christianity, a woman’s prison, forced marriage, or even a death sentence await her back in her native land.” Yet despite her obvious need for encouragement and support, Rifqa was denied the opportunity to see Jivanjee. “It seems,” he said, “that Ohio has effectively put her into solitary confinement.”

Jivanjee asks the basic questions that every American should be asking: “How can this be good for Rifqa? On what grounds can they keep her from the most basic of privileges that are afforded to common criminals? Why has Rifqa Bary been in Ohio for almost one month, and they have still yet to approve a visitor’s list for her? Is this not an outrage?”

Has everyone gone mad?

No phone. No net. No friends. No religious succor.
This is why I so fiercely fought her return to Ohio. Columbus, Ohio, is home to one of the largest Somali Muslim populations in the United States: 70,000 and growing. This is the group, Somali Muslims, that has been at the epicenter of myriad busts for jihad activity in recent weeks. Is Rifqa safe in this devout Muslim community? 

Ohio Governor Ted Strickland thinks so. Strickland issued a statement back on September 14th, on why Rifqa Bary should be returned to Ohio: “Child welfare agencies and authorities in Ohio and Franklin County are fully capable of providing for the security and well-being of Ohio’s children. The governor believes this is a family matter and therefore would most appropriately be handled here in Ohio with the assistance of the child welfare and foster care system.” He concluded: “We have no reason to believe that she would be unsafe in Ohio.”

Yet Ohio child services continues to earn its infamous reputation as one of the country’s worst places for children in foster care. The Columbus Dispatch reported in December 2008 that “an alarming number of children being watched by child services because they were at risk have died of abuse and criminal neglect, twice the national average (having a national average for such deaths is deplorable in itself).”

Even worse, investigative reporter Patrick Poole has recently discovered that the imam of Rifqa’s parents’ mosque, Salah Sultan, led a Hajj trip to Mecca in 2002 with Anwar al-Awlaki, the jihadist imam with whom Fort Hood murderer Nidal Hasan was in close contact.
Rifqa: isolated, alone, and in danger of being returned to Islamic jihadists who believe apostates from Islam should be killed.

What has happened to America?


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 01, 2009, 01:25:10 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/os-ed-myword-rifqa-bary-120109-20091130,0,7767583.story
Muslims: Living with honor
December 1, 2009

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As millions of Americans celebrated family this Thanksgiving, the Bary family had an empty chair at their table for their daughter, Fathima Rifqa Bary.

The child was lured away interstate by people who met her on the Internet. They spoke with this minor, while her parents slept, sowing the seeds of their own prejudice about Islam into this child's impressionable mind. They bought a ticket for her under a fake name and hid her from the authorities. Later on, opportunistic politicians hungry for the right-wing votes in 2010 coarsley inserted themselves in this family matter.

Under interstate compact, the runaway child should have been returned to the Ohio authorities, and her enablers taken to task according to the law. Instead, her family was forced to defend itself in a Florida court against obscene accusations of contemplating "honor killing" and of having terrorist links. Mohamed Bary's clean record of having a Catholic-school education and many Christian friends was overlooked.

The findings by Columbus, Ohio, police and Franklin County Children Services were ignored, and the Florida Department of Children and Families and an attorney asked that the "threat from the [Muslim] community at large" of Columbus, Ohio, be investigated. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement rightly refused to do so.

Jurisdiction is the seminal issue in any litigation, as it was here. But the inappropriate question that repeatedly was allowed in court was whether Muslims are ordered to kill their children for apostasy. Eventually, the Barys had to file a dependency action against themselves in Ohio, in order to wrest their daughter from the grips of a system that refused to give them a fair shake, despite the evidence in their favor.

Sophisticated bigotry is bigotry nonetheless. When intolerant political forces align to misuse the courts to obfuscate the law and violate the civil rights of others, all law-abiding Americans must take heed. Nowadays, it has become too acceptable to stereotype Muslims, even in polite society, and to generalize this faith of millions of Americans without thinking twice of the toll it takes on the community at large.
Not a day goes by that some anti-Muslim rhetoric dehumanizing and reducing them to a caricature goes unchallenged in the media. Meanwhile, the seldom-solicited Muslim perspective is suspected and dismissed as Islamist or Jihadist by a certain audience.

So this holiday season, while we give thanks for our families and freedom, let us also keep in mind the Bary family with one empty chair at the table.

And as we thank our young men and women in uniform, let us also recognize that thousands of Muslim soldiers from many countries are fighting along with our brave troops against the menace of al-Qaida. We are all in this together, and we all have a right to live with honor.

Shayan Elahi is an Orlando lawyer who represented Rifqa Bary's father, Mohamed Bary, in the Florida dependency case.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Sister on December 10, 2009, 07:19:43 PM
What??? I'm very confused.  I never knew Muslims celebrated Thanksgiving . . . wow!  Learn something new everyday . . .


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on December 11, 2009, 08:43:28 PM
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199960.php

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

December 11, 2009
CAIR Attorney Demands Ban and Seizure of all Christmas Cards sent to Rifqa Bary (Bumped) ***And Updated***
In a stunning development in the ongoing legal saga of Muslim-turned-Christian convert Rifqa Bary, the parents' attorney, Omar Tarazi, filed a motion with the Franklin County courts last week moving to ban all Christmas cards being sent to Rifqa through her attorneys, and demanding the seizure from her of all Christmas cards that she might have already received. And yet her parents still make representations to the media that they intend to honor and respect her Christian faith, while their attorney files sealed motions stating that Christmas cards are "dangerous to her health and safety".

This news and a copy of the motion were provided to me from a source inside CAIR, who noted that CAIR has raised funds for the Bary's legal jihad to have the courts return the 17 year-old to her allegedly abusive Muslim family. According to affidavits filed in the case, Rifqa states that her father threatened to kill her for leaving Islam, which prompted her to flee her Ohio home and take refuge with a pastor and his family in Florida. In an interview with Florida investigators, her father admitted to the incident, but denies threatening her life. The family also attends the terror-tied Noor Islamic Cultural Center in the Columbus area. Both she and the ongoing legal case have since been transferred from Florida back to Ohio.

The court will hear Tarazi's motion for the ban and seizure of all of Rifqa's Christmas cards on December 22nd.

UPDATE: Since several commenters have claimed that this is entirely bogus and invented on my part, I've included the text of CAIR attorney Omar Tarazi's motion to ban and seize all of Rifqa's Christmas cards below the fold. The motion was filed with the Franklin County Court of Common Pleas on December 1st at 11:29am.

IN THE COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, FRANKLIN COUNTY, OHIO DIVISION OF DOMESTIC RELATIONS AND JUVENILE BRANCH

IN THE MATTER OF:

FATHIMA RIFQA BARY,

AN ALLEGED DEPENDENT CHILD

Case No. 09 JU 11 14895

Judge: GILL

Magistrate: GOODRICH

MOTION TO ENJOIN COUNSEL FROM PASSING MESSAGES OF THIRD PARTIES DIRECTLY TO THE MINOR CHILD

Wherefore, now come Mohamed Bary and Aysha Risana Bary, the parents of Fathima Rifqa Bary, by and through counsel, Omar Tarazi, and move the Court to enjoin Fathima Rifqa Bary's attorneys from passing messages of third parties directly to the minor child without the approval and supervision of Franklin County Children Services; Petitioner moves the court to order Fathima Rifqa Bary and her attorneys to turn over all such communications in their possession or control to FCCS; that third party adults are not to be allowed to communicate with Fathima Rifqa Bary until an approved list is determined by FCCS after consultation with all parties. This motion is supported by the attached memorandum of law.

Omar Tarazi (0084165)
[Address and phone numbers removed]


MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT

1- Certain hate filled sites for bigotry and propaganda are advertising Fathima Rifqa Bary’s attorney, Angela Lloyd address as the approved mean for the readers of the sites to get messages delivered to Fathima Rifqa Bary under the guise of sending her “Christmas Cards.” http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

2- The particular sites involved have been inciting hatred regarding the current case with such posts as, “Strickland is demented. He knows the fatal record of his Child Services department. Why did he insist that Rifqa be returned? She was perfectly safe and perfectly happy in Florida. Why did this tool of jihad force the hand of Florida? Strickland says a killer is innocent, but Rifqa is guilty of not submitting to the religion of misogyny, gender apartheid and slavery. There is a level of corruption and Islamic influence all the way up to Strickland’s office that is deeply troubling. He’s on their payroll…Are they medicating her [Rifqa Bary] under the “psychiatric evaluation” findings? Who knows? Do the Islamic apologists in the Ohio media even so much as question this fascism? Not a peep.” http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

3- Allowing the readers of such sites to have a channel of communication to Fathima Rifqa Bary is dangerous to her health and safety. It also undermines the ability of Franklin County Children Services to do its job in supervising and protecting Fathima Rifqa Bary. The GAL for Fathima Rifqa Bary, FCCS and the parents of the minor child have a right to know when third parties are communicating to the minor child particularly when the third parties might endanger the health and safety of the minor child.

4- Therefore, for the safety and security of Fathima Rifqa Bary we ask the court to enjoin Fathima Rifqa Bary’s attorneys from passing messages to their client from third parties and order them to deliver all such communications in their possession or control for Fathima Rifqa Bary that have come from third parties to this action to FCCS and order Fathima Rifqa Bary to turn over any communications in her possession or control she has already received from third parties through her attorneys to FCCS; that third party adults are not to be allowed to communicate with Fathima Rifqa Bary until an approved list is determined by FCCS in consultation with all parties.

Omar Tarazi (0084165)
[Address and phone number removed]



Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 15, 2009, 10:33:59 AM
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199982.php
December 14, 2009
Pics reveal CAIR backstage coordination of media in Rifqa Bary case and how the media kept silent

***Bumped by Rusty: You really need to read all the way to the end to get why this is so important. The pictures do, in fact, reveal a media silent on CAIR's coordinated message about Rifqa Bary. Especially an image of a CAIR computer with a document titled "DO NOT RELEASE TO PUBLIC" and "FATHIMA RIFQA BARY TALKING POINTS".
-----

Since early August we have been following the ongoing saga concerning Rifqa Bary, the Ohio Muslim-turned-Christian convert teenager who fled her home to Florida in fear of her life after her family discovered her conversion. Last Friday we reported a motion filed by the Bary's CAIR attorney with the Ohio court considering Rifqa's case demanding a ban and seizure of all Christmas cards sent to her from outside parties. We also broke the story of how CAIR officials were allowed to be present as "neutral observers" when the Bary family was interviewed by Florida investigators.

Early on in this case we reported that the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) had convened a strategy session in Rifqa's hometown of Ohio where they formulated their media strategy in response to the negative press the parents were receiving:

    But a source who was inside a secret strategy meeting conducted by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) earlier this week has conveyed the strategy that the media's favorite Islamist group has devised to respond to the ongoing public relations crisis. According to my source who attended the strategy session, CAIR officials handed out copies of this Orlando Sentinel article and want supporters to push the meme that Christians have brainwashed and abducted this gullible teenage girl. They have also instructed     supporters to circulate rumors that Rifqa had been carousing with infidel boys and engaged in acts of immorality. This CAIR strategy takes the focus off the near-universal Islamic legal precepts and Quranic injunctions that demand death for apostates and impugns the character of the innocent girl at the center of this controversy who appears to be in genuine fear for her life if she is returned to her parents.

That media narrative of Rifqa being brainwashed and abducted by a Christian cult was one that was carried by many media outlets, most notably Meredith "Hijab" Heagney of the Columbus Dispatch, Michael Kruse of the St. Petersburg Times, among others. In all their reporting, however, they carefully left the connections of the terror-tied CAIR out of their stories.

But from my source inside CAIR comes new information indicating media complicity with respect to concealing CAIR's backstage management of the case on behalf of Rifqa's allegedly abusive parents. Most of the stories by these media hacks featured pictures of the Bary family, such as this photo accompanying an article by the St. Pete Times' Michael Kruse:
What is important about this photograph is not so much what you see as what you don't see. As the late Paul Harvey said, and now for the rest of the story...

What CAIR's media allies neglected to mention was that these interviews with the lapdog media were being conducted in the office of CAIR-Columbus executive director Babak Darvish as seen in the following photographs taken in various media interviews.

For example, the following photograph shows the Barys being interviewed by a local TV station:
Continued here....  http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199982.php


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 21, 2009, 09:18:38 AM
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/12/the-act-of-attrition-in-the-rifqa-bary-case-is-the-rumor-that-brian-williams-rifqas-friend-and-the-pastor-that-baptized-her.html
Monday, December 21, 2009
The Muslim Brotherhood Project: Rifqa Bary's Prosecution


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: MuffyBee on December 21, 2009, 02:17:53 PM
Can you say 'HELLO' .......

1 recent example of millions...

Iraqi woman run over by father in US in 'honour killing'
A young Iraqi woman was run over by her father in a car in an alleged honour killing in the United States after her behaviour became "too Western", police said. MORE>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6496552/Iraqi-woman-run-over-by-father-in-US-in-honour-killing.html

Edit to add the link to the thread here at Scared Monkeys in News of the Day (feel free to go there and comment or add additiional information)  MB: 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6413.0

BUMP


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 22, 2009, 06:37:25 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/22032836/detail.html
Hearing Slated In Religious Runaway Case
Parents Want To Ban Christmas Cards From Being Sent To Bary

POSTED: 5:34 am EST December 22, 2009
UPDATED: 5:51 am EST December 22, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The teenager dubbed a "religious runaway" will be back in court on Tuesday to discuss Christmas cards.

Rifqa Bary, 17, made headlines in August when she fled from Ohio to Orlando. She claimed her Muslim father threatened to kill her after she converted to Christianity.

Authorities said her parents want to ban Christmas cards from being sent to Bary.

During the hearing, Bary's parents are expected to ask a judge to hold the teen in contempt for refusing to attend Muslim counseling sessions.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on December 22, 2009, 08:35:44 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/22032836/detail.html
Hearing Slated In Religious Runaway Case
Parents Want To Ban Christmas Cards From Being Sent To Bary

POSTED: 5:34 am EST December 22, 2009
UPDATED: 5:51 am EST December 22, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The teenager dubbed a "religious runaway" will be back in court on Tuesday to discuss Christmas cards.

Rifqa Bary, 17, made headlines in August when she fled from Ohio to Orlando. She claimed her Muslim father threatened to kill her after she converted to Christianity.

Authorities said her parents want to ban Christmas cards from being sent to Bary.

During the hearing, Bary's parents are expected to ask a judge to hold the teen in contempt for refusing to attend Muslim counseling sessions.
Trimm, if I'm not mistake Rilvan goes to court today as well on his MIP charge. Fine muslim he is getting caught boozing it up. Bet the family didn't bat an eye on his offense.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 22, 2009, 03:20:03 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/faith_news/122209_Rifqa_Bary
Rifqa Bary in contempt of court?

Updated: Tuesday, 22 Dec 2009, 12:37 PM EST
Published : Tuesday, 22 Dec 2009, 12:28 PM EST

COLUMBUS, Ohio - According to reports, the parents of Christian convert Rifqa Bary plan to ask a judge to hold her in contempt of court for refusing to attend counseling sessions.

Both the Rifqa and her parents were to listen to each other's views about religion.

Bary has said she feared her father would harm or kill her for converting from Islam. Her father has denied the claim.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 22, 2009, 03:22:23 PM
http://www.myfoxwausau.com/dpp/news/national/Runaway_Teen_Christian_Convert_Is_Getting_Her_Christmas_Cards_21294482
Runaway Teen Christian Convert Is Getting Her Christmas Cards

Try as they might, Rifqa Bary's parents can't keep her from reading her first Christmas cards.

The Ohio girl, who ran away to Florida because she said she feared her father would kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity — only to be sent back to Ohio by a Florida judge — remains in the care of a county children's services agency where she has been receiving "quite a lot" of Christmas cards from well-wishers across the country, according to one of her attorneys.

John Stemberger said an attorney for Bary's parents filed a motion earlier this month seeking to ban the 17-year-old from receiving outside messages, including Christmas cards. But Rifqa is receiving the cards nonetheless, he said.

"In the end, she's getting the Christmas cards," Sternberger told FoxNews.com. "They're just making sure there's no white powder or anything in them."

Bary, who will turn 18 in August, is scheduled to appear Tuesday morning in Ohio's Franklin County Juvenile Court. She may take the stand and could learn if she'll be declared an independent, paving the way for her to live as she chooses.

SLIDESHOW: Christian Convert Fears Family

"If she's declared an independent, that'd be a victory," Stemberger said. "The essence of this case is a girl who converted and is getting increased hostility from the people who should be loving her the most. It's the reason she ran."

Bary, of New Albany, Ohio, has said she feared her father would harm or kill her for converting away from Islam, a claim her father, Mohamed Bary, vigorously denies. A Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to the girl.

Bary, who fled to Florida in July, was sent back to her home state last month. Police used phone and Internet records to track her to the Rev. Blake Lorenze, pastor of the Orlando, Fla.-based Global Revolution Church and whom Bary met in a prayer group on Facebook, according to authorities. Bary's phone and Internet usage are now being closely monitored, per a judge's ruling.

Attempts to reach Omar Tarazi, an attorney for Bary's parents, were unsuccessful early Tuesday. Speaking earlier to FoxNews.com, he said a court-issued gag order prevented him from discussing the hearing.
Earlier this month, Franklin County Juvenile Magistrate Mary Goodrich ordered the state to supervise Bary's telephone and Internet use at the request of the county children's services agency.

The girl's parents supported the restrictions, saying through their attorney they were concerned about her interacting with adults over the Internet.

"As you know, there's a lot of danger and concern about that with children," Tarazi said.

Kort Gatterdam, an attorney representing the girl, opposed the request, saying problems were caused by a conflict between the girl and her parents, not the Internet.

"We're making some assumptions, without evidence in the record, that she has done something improper talking to people on Facebook. There's no evidence of that," Gatterdam told the judge. "If the goal here is normalcy and reunification or whatever, this is not the way to go."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 22, 2009, 03:24:18 PM
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/12/22/rifqa-bary-in-court.html?sid=101
Magistrate rules that runaway doesn't have to sit down with parents
Tuesday,  December 22, 2009 12:31 PM
Updated: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 01:31 PM
By Meredith Heagney
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Attorney Angela M. Lloyd, left, with Fathima Rifqa Bary in court today
TOM DODGE | DISPATCH
Attorney Angela M. Lloyd, left, with Fathima Rifqa Bary in court today

The magistrate in the Rifqa Bary case ruled today that the 17-year-old who ran away from her Columbus home in July does not have to sit down for mediation with her parents.

There were several issues resolved today at the hearing in Franklin County Juvenile Court, including:

    * Mediation. Magistrate Mary Goodrich said issues now being discussed would best be resolved with individual counseling instead of group mediation.
    * Third-party messages. Bary's parents don't want her to receive any cards or letters directly, and had filed a motion that any messages first go to Franklin County Children Services. Omar Tarazi, the family's attorney, withdrew that motion today.
    * Rifqa's mental health. Assistant County Prosecutor Chris Julian said that a counselor was trying to determine whether 17-year-old, whose full name is Fathima Rifqa Bary, has post-traumatic stress disorder.

In July, Rifqa ran away and moved in with two pastors -- a married couple -- in Orlando, Fla., whom she had met on the Internet.

Rifqa said her father, Mohamed Bary, had threatened to kill her for leaving Islam -- the family religion -- for Christianity.
Authorities in Florida and Ohio could find no credible threat to her safety, and she returned to Franklin County on Oct. 27 and has been living in a foster home.

A case plan that Franklin County Children Services filed recently with the court says the family should try to work out its differences, with the goal of having Rifqa move back in with her parents. But only Children Services signed the plan, which is not binding unless it becomes a court order.

The next hearing is set for Jan. 19.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 23, 2009, 07:53:30 AM
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/12/23/rifqa22.ART_ART_12-23-09_B1_UDG3A4R.html?sid=101
Ruling: Runaway teen doesn't have to talk to family
No mediation for Christian convert, parents
Wednesday,  December 23, 2009 3:19 AM

By  Meredith Heagney
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
<p>Attorney Angela M. Lloyd listens to Fathima Rifqa Bary at a hearing. Rifqa waved to friends and supporters yesterday but avoided eye contact with her parents.</p>
TOM DODGE | DISPATCH

Attorney Angela M. Lloyd listens to Fathima Rifqa Bary at a hearing. Rifqa waved to friends and supporters yesterday but avoided eye contact with her parents.
<p>Mohamed and Aysha Bary, Rifqa's parents, attended yesterday's hearing. Their request for mediation with their daughter, who ran away to Florida in July, was denied.</p>
TOM DODGE | DISPATCH

Mohamed and Aysha Bary, Rifqa's parents, attended yesterday's hearing. Their request for mediation with their daughter, who ran away to Florida in July, was denied.

Fathima Rifqa Bary and her parents sat in the same courtroom yesterday, about 25 feet apart.

Despite the physical proximity, a reunion between the 17-year-old Christian convert and her Muslim parents seemed miles away.

At the hearing yesterday morning in Franklin County Juvenile Court, Magistrate Mary Goodrich denied the request of parents Mohamed and Aysha Bary to undergo mediation with the girl who goes by Rifqa.

The teenager chatted with her attorneys, greeted friends and waved at a stranger who came from Florida to support her. But she avoided eye contact with her mother and father.
The Barys occasionally looked across the room at their daughter, who ran away from their Northeast Side home five months ago because she said her father threatened to kill her for the conversion.

Mr. Bary denies that, and authorities investigating the case haven't found any credible threats to her safety.

But two cases continue to make their way through court. One is a dependency case to determine where Rifqa will live, and the other considers a complaint her parents filed calling her unruly.

Goodrich said she's "99 percent sure" that mediation would not be successful and that the family's issues should be handled in counseling.

Assistant Franklin County Prosecutor Chris Julian said a counselor is trying to determine whether Rifqa has post-traumatic stress disorder.

Another issue at hand was whether Rifqa can receive cards, letters and other messages. Bloggers, Christian activists and friends have launched a campaign to send Rifqa Christmas cards.

The family's attorney, Omar Tarazi, had filed a motion asking that all third-party communication go first to Franklin County Children Services, which has custody of the teen.

But Tarazi, who has said Web sites encouraging the cards spread anti-Muslim rhetoric, withdrew that motion yesterday. He did not say why. All parties are under a gag order.
Other motions, most notably Tarazi's motion to hold Rifqa in contempt of court for not complying with counseling requirements, were continued until a hearing on Jan. 19.

During the hearing, Rifqa sat quietly and read a book while holding a wooden cross. She hugged two teenage girls waiting outside the courtroom, where about 20 supporters held hands in prayer.

A few said they had traveled from Oregon, Texas and Florida after reading about Rifqa on a blog that frequently rails against Islam and President Barack Obama.

Several said they were Christians who believe that Islam is a violent faith.

mheagney@dispatch.com


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 20, 2010, 09:03:45 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/22280280/detail.html
Parents End Battle To Bring Rifqa Home
Rifqa Bary Will Stay In Foster Care
POSTED: 5:33 am EST January 20, 2010
UPDATED: 8:04 am EST January 20, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
The Ohio teenager who ran away from her parents after converting to Christianity will not be returned to her family.

Rifqa Bary will remain in foster care until her 18th birthday later this year, and then she'll be able to decide on her own what to do next, officials said.

Bary will not face a trial in Ohio. In a settlement, Bary's lawyer said his client and her parents love and respect each other and believe counseling is the best way to resolve their issues, according to the Orlando Sentinel.

Over the summer, the once-Muslim teenager changed her religion to Christianity and moved to Florida because she said she feared her father would kill her for converting. Her parents insisted she could come home, but that never happened.

Instead, the pastor of an Orlando church, Blake Lorenz, welcomed Bary after meeting her on Facebook.
In December, Lorenz denied allegations by a colleague that he knew he was breaking the law when he helped Bary leave her parents and come to Florida. Leaders at Global Revolution Church fired Lorenz in September after he admitted to lying about his involvement in bringing the runaway to the state.

In a recorded meeting, Lorenz said he lied -- but he insisted he had not broken the law, according to the Sentinel.

Bary remains in Ohio. The church closed after members feared they would be sued by Bary's parents.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 20, 2010, 09:06:17 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583423,00.html?test=latestnews
Runaway Christian Convert to Remain Free of Parents, Judge Rules
Wednesday, January 20, 2010
COLUMBUS, Ohio —  A runaway teenage girl from Ohio who converted from Islam to Christianity has reached a court settlement that allows her to remain free of her Muslim parents.

The agreement Tuesday says that 17-year-old Rifqa Bary will stay in a foster home under state custody in Columbus until she turns 18 in August. After that, she'll be an adult and free to live where she chooses.

Bary's attorney read a statement in Franklin County Juvenile Court, saying that the girl and her parents love and respect each other and will try to resolve their differences through counseling.

SLIDESHOW: Christian Convert Fears Family http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/us/2009/10/15/christian-convert-fears-family

Bary ran away to Florida last summer, saying she feared her father would harm or kill her for leaving Islam.

Her father denied the claim, and a law enforcement investigation found no credible threats to the girl.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 20, 2010, 09:07:49 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/20/us/AP-US-Runaway-Convert.html
Runaway Ohio Girl to Remain Free of Muslim Parents

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: January 20, 2010
Filed at 7:49 a.m. ET

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- A runaway teenage girl from Ohio who converted from Islam to Christianity has reached a court settlement that allows her to remain free of her Muslim parents.

The agreement Tuesday says that 17-year-old Rifqa Bary will stay in a foster home under state custody in Columbus until she turns 18 in August. After that, she'll be an adult and free to live where she chooses.

Bary's attorney read a statement in Franklin County Juvenile Court, saying that the girl and her parents love and respect each other and will try to resolve their differences through counseling.

Bary ran away to Florida last summer, saying she feared her father would harm or kill her for leaving Islam.

Her father denied the claim, and a law enforcement investigation found no credible threats to the girl.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on January 20, 2010, 09:25:16 PM
If one wishes "Credible evidence" of the danger Rifqa is in, one only need read the Koran.  It directs Muslims in every facet of life, including beheading apostates.  That is enough "Credible evidence" for any thinking person.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on January 29, 2010, 04:48:11 PM
Muslim parents of Ohio runaway teen reject resolution plan that called for counseling
Associated Press

Last update: January 29, 2010 - 3:34 PM
COLUMBUS, Ohio - The Muslim parents of an Ohio girl who ran away from home claiming she feared harm for becoming Christian have rejected a deal meant to resolve the conflict.

Mohamed and Aysha Bary of New Albany, Ohio, withdrew their consent in a court filing Thursday that alleges misrepresentation in the plan approved Jan. 19.

The Barys and their daughter, 17-year-old Rifqa Bary, had agreed she would stay in foster care and they would undergo counseling instead of going to trial to determine where the girl should live.

The Barys now allege that Franklin County Children Services are permitting Rifqa to communicate with a Florida pastor and his wife who helped her run away last summer.

A law enforcement investigation has found no credible threats to the girl.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/83063062.html?elr=KArks:DCiUMEaPc:UiacyKUUr


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 29, 2010, 05:35:39 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::  She is gonna wind up dead.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 29, 2010, 05:39:03 PM
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/faith_values/stories/2010/01/29/fv_rifqa_family.ART_ART_01-29-10_B4_13GEHJ3.html?sid=101
 FAITH & VALUES
Taking a long shot at reunion
Experts say Barys need to find some common ground, build on that
Friday,  January 29, 2010 2:55 AM
By Meredith Heagney
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on January 29, 2010, 06:46:26 PM
 ::MonkeyMad:: I hate CAIR and I hate the Bary's. Poor Rifqa is never going to be safe.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 21, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
Rifqa's attorneys want court to punish parents
Wednesday,  February 17, 2010 11:10 PM

Attorneys for Fathima Rifqa Bary want sanctions imposed on her parents and their attorney for filing what her attorneys call frivolous motions.

In a motion filed in Franklin County Juvenile Court, they also accuse Rifqa's parents of "continued attempts to intimidate and control their daughter."

All the attorneys had agreed on Jan. 19 to settle their dispute in counseling and not in court. But a week later, Omar Tarazi, attorney for Mohamed Bary and his wife, Aysha, asked the court to prohibit contact between Rifqa and Blake and Beverly Lorenz, the Florida pastors she stayed with after running away from her Columbus home in July.

Rifqa, 17, accused her father of threatening to kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity. But authorities in Florida and Ohio did not find any credible threat to her safety.

The January motion is frivolous, Rifqa's attorneys wrote, because her counselor agreed that contact between her and the Lorenzes was in her best interest.

Kort Gatterdam and Angela Lloyd, Rifqa's attorneys, want the court to order sanctions that could include making the Barys pay attorney fees, court costs and other expenses.

The attorneys also accused Tarazi of including Rifqa's private writings in their motions to make them available to the news media and embarrass her.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/02/17/rifqa-lawyers-want-court-to-punish-parents.html

108 comments at the topix link
http://www.topix.com/forum/columbus/TADDFGD3B86DH19D6


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: pamomma on February 22, 2010, 01:25:48 PM
I see that the news articles now have her listed as 17.  Does anyone know when this poor girl's birthday is?  I assume that when she is 18 she will be able to go and do whatever she wants and her parents won't be able to stop her. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on February 22, 2010, 02:04:59 PM
I see that the news articles now have her listed as 17.  Does anyone know when this poor girl's birthday is?  I assume that when she is 18 she will be able to go and do whatever she wants and her parents won't be able to stop her. ::MonkeyNoNo::
She just recently turned 17 I believe either in late summer or early fall.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 02, 2010, 07:27:48 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/22713163/detail.html
Religious Runaway Case Heads Back To Court

Posted: 7:04 am EST March 2,2010
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- An Ohio teenage convert who ran away to Florida, allegedly with help from Christian pastors, goes back to court in a lengthy custody dispute with her family.

Rifqa Bary and her parents were scheduled to appear Tuesday before a juvenile court judge in Columbus who thought the case had been resolved more than a month ago.

A deal between the 17-year-old girl and her parents to resolve their conflict through counseling fell apart shortly after it was struck in January.

Bary emigrated from Sri Lanka as a child with her family. She claims she would be harmed or killed for converting to Christianity.

Her parents deny the claim, and police in Columbus and Florida found no evidence she was in danger.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on March 02, 2010, 09:15:30 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/22713163/detail.html
Religious Runaway Case Heads Back To Court

Posted: 7:04 am EST March 2,2010
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- An Ohio teenage convert who ran away to Florida, allegedly with help from Christian pastors, goes back to court in a lengthy custody dispute with her family.

Rifqa Bary and her parents were scheduled to appear Tuesday before a juvenile court judge in Columbus who thought the case had been resolved more than a month ago.

A deal between the 17-year-old girl and her parents to resolve their conflict through counseling fell apart shortly after it was struck in January.

Bary emigrated from Sri Lanka as a child with her family. She claims she would be harmed or killed for converting to Christianity.

Her parents deny the claim, and police in Columbus and Florida found no evidence she was in danger.
Prayers for Rifqa today in court


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on March 02, 2010, 10:37:16 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/22713163/detail.html
Religious Runaway Case Heads Back To Court

Posted: 7:04 am EST March 2,2010
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- An Ohio teenage convert who ran away to Florida, allegedly with help from Christian pastors, goes back to court in a lengthy custody dispute with her family.

Rifqa Bary and her parents were scheduled to appear Tuesday before a juvenile court judge in Columbus who thought the case had been resolved more than a month ago.

A deal between the 17-year-old girl and her parents to resolve their conflict through counseling fell apart shortly after it was struck in January.

Bary emigrated from Sri Lanka as a child with her family. She claims she would be harmed or killed for converting to Christianity.

Her parents deny the claim, and police in Columbus and Florida found no evidence she was in danger.
Prayers for Rifqa today in court

Yes, prayers for Rifqa.  But the Islamists have made such inroads into our state and federal governments, that they will call the shots in this.  I hope the judge protects Rifqa from the barbarians, but I doubt it because most Americans have yet to understand the nature of this enemy which is bound by "Religious" conviction to subdue all non-Muslim countries.  They have made great headway in Europe, even infiltrating the Labor Party in England.  I believe our president to be a Muslim. I believe our Attorney General to be a Muslim or, if not, to obey the orders of a Muslim.  I believe that the 9/11 conspirators will not be convicted because of deliberate statements by the President and Attorney General that they will be found guilty and executed, thereby preventing any pretense of a fair trial. God bless Rifqa, but they kill her, no doubt about it.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 02, 2010, 11:40:47 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/rifqa-bary--teen-muslim-to-christian-20100302,0,3225946.story
Rifqa Bary: Teen convert, parents headed to court in Ohio


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Teenage Muslim-to-Christian convert Rifqa Bary, who ran away to Orlando last year, is expected in an Ohio courtroom today in the latest chapter of a lengthy custody dispute.

Rifqa and her parents are scheduled to appear today before a juvenile court judge in Columbus who thought the case had been resolved more than a month ago.

A deal between the 17-year-old girl and her parents to resolve their conflict through counseling fell apart shortly after it was struck in January.

Rifqa emigrated from Sri Lanka as a child with her family. She claims she would be harmed or killed for converting to Christianity.

Her parents deny the claim, and police in Columbus and Florida found no evidence she was in danger.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 02, 2010, 11:44:04 AM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hJLMa2rROo9H7Cx3ycwhj5uPXOMwD9E6JBB80
Ohio Muslim-to-Christian teen convert in court

(AP) – 43 minutes ago

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The attorney for an Ohio couple says they just want a reasonable chance to reconcile with their daughter, a teenager who converted from Islam to Christianity and ran away to Florida.

Seventeen-year-old Rifqa Bary and her parents appeared Tuesday before a juvenile court judge in Columbus as part of the girl's custody case.

Bary claims she would be harmed or killed for becoming a Christian. Her parents deny that. Their attorney, Omar Tarazi, told the judge they still have a moral and constitutional right to raise their daughter even though she turns 18 in August.

Bary fled to Florida last year, allegedly with help from Christian pastors.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 02, 2010, 02:46:13 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/rifqa-bary--teen-muslim-to-christian-20100302,0,3225946.story
Rifqa Bary: Judge urges Rifqa Bary’s parents to work toward reunion
The teen wants a court to rule that a reunion with parents is impossible.

By Andrew Welsh-Huggins, The Associated Press
2:20 p.m. EST, March 2, 2010

COLUMBUS, Ohio — A judge urged an Ohio couple to stick with counseling toward a reconciliation with their teenage daughter, who ran away to Florida last year claiming she would be harmed for converting from Islam to Christianity.

Rifqa Bary's parents have denied their daughter's claim and had asked Franklin County Juvenile Court Judge Elizabeth Gill to scrap a deal reached in January that includes counseling as part of a reunion effort.

Mohamed and Aysha Bary said the county child welfare agency, which now has custody of the girl and developed the reconciliation plan, was allowing Rifqa Bary to talk to a Florida pastor who had sheltered her after she ran away. The couple believes that contact was hurting their chance for reconciliation.

Gill on Tuesday denied the parents' request, saying she recognized their frustrations but believed that the best course was to move ahead with counseling to heal the family.

"The only individuals that are going to be able to repair it are the three of you, with professional help," Gill said, addressing the parents and their daughter, who sat on opposite sides of the courtroom
Tuesday's hearing also touched on Bary's immigration status. Her attorneys raised the issue in a recent court filing that noted federal law allows "an undocumented immigrant minor" to receive permanent resident status when placed in long-term foster care by a judge. In court, Lloyd confirmed that the girl is an illegal immigrant.

"Unlike her parents, if reconciliation fails, at 18 then she is without legal status," Lloyd said.

The immigration status of the parents is unclear, although Lloyd said in court that the couple are "pursuing their own immigration relief." Attorneys have been under an order not to talk about the case.

The family alleges that Christian pastors helped her flee to Orlando, Fla., in July, and police in Columbus are investigating whether anyone broke the law helping her leave home. Police in Florida and Columbus found no evidence that the girl faced harm in Ohio.

A few people describing themselves as Christian supporters of the girl who said they didn't know her personally attended Tuesday's hearing, including retiree Don Berger, 70, of Columbus.

"Children's services and the court system need to protect her," Berger said.

Bary's case has drawn national attention, especially among bloggers, with anti-Islam groups warning she could face death and some Muslim groups saying she's being exploited by outsiders. Dozens of supporters of the girl rallied outside the courthouse this year before a hearing.

Earlier at Tuesday's hearing, the parents' attorney, Omar Tarazi, said the mother and father still "want a reasonable, good-faith chance for reconciliation" but recognize that time is running out.

"If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't," Tarazi said.

Rifqa Bary, who turns 18 in August, wants the court to rule that a reunion is impossible and that it is not in her best interest to be returned to her native Sri Lanka.

"She wants to practice the Christian religion and believes she would be in danger if she practiced that religion at home," said the teen's lawyer, Angela Lloyd. Noting that her parents want to back out of the January deal, she said their "actions continue to reinforce that."
Bonnie Vangeloff, a court-appointed attorney who represents the girl's rights as a child in foster care, told the judge the family is in deep need of counseling but that reconciliation is probably unlikely before the girl turns 18


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 02, 2010, 06:14:18 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/22715889/detail.html
Judge Orders Counseling For Religious Runaway
Pastor Who Helped Rifqa Talks Only To WESH 2
ORLANDO, Fla. --
A judge decided Tuesday counseling is necessary for a so-called religious runaway and her family.

The attorney for Rifqa Bary's parents said they just want a reasonable chance to reconcile with her and did not want the counseling.

The judge said that is the best course, but understood the parents' frustration with their daughter's contact with Pastor Blake Lorenz. Lorenz, a pastor in Central Florida for 26 years, took 17-year-old Rifqa Bary in when she fled to Orlando last summer, claiming that her parents would harm her for converting from Muslim to Christianity.

Her parents deny that claim.
Lorenz spoke exclusively to WESH 2 Tuesday after the judge's ruling to order counseling.

"We're excited for Rifqa that Rifqa wants that. I mean, we haven't pushed anything and the counselor believes it's good for her," he said.

Lorenz said Rifqa remains in contact with his wife, Beverly.

"It's more from a emotional religious aspect. She's calling to tell me about that, every area of life, her future. Yes, we pray with her, encouraging her to be strong until she gets to her 18th birthday and can be on her own," Lorenz said. "She fled for her life and we did what we believe anyone would do we reached out to help her. We took her in and got her the help she needed and protected her. If they have a problem with that, then they got a problem with being American."

Lorenz said he is not concerned that Ohio police in Columbus are investigating to see if any laws were broken.

"Our concern would be for Brian Williams, a young black pastor up in Ohio who helped her escape. People don't understand she ran away for her life before any of this other stuff. She had already run away from home before any of this happened," he said.
Lorenz said, despite published reports he contact nearly a dozen authorities including police, lawyers and judge before Rifqa came to his home and while she was there, ultimately he would like to see Rifqa reconcile with her parents.

When asked if he would do it all over again, Lorenz said "definitely."


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: sleddogs on May 24, 2010, 01:24:39 PM
Rifqa Bary Suffering from Cancer, Her Lawyers Bring in Her Parents

There has been a terrible development in the case of Rifqa Bary. According to Rifqa, she has been diagnosed with advanced uterine cancer

I ask all Atlas readers to put Rifqa in their prayers.

While this is a tragedy, how she is being victimized by her lawyers and her parents is an atrocity. Her lawyers kept her in the dark about her condition – cancer – for well over a week, while they conferred with her parents and their CAIR appointed lawyers about her treatment. While most cases like this result in a hysterectomy, she is only having the advanced malignancy removed. From what I understand, the survival rate in cases like these is 5%.

Was she allowed to get a second opinion? No.

While she was lying ill, her lawyers brought her parents to her hospital bed. She was strapped down for treatment and became very agitated and upset, and they had to be removed. She has broken her silence, a silence mandated by her lawyers, that she could not talk to her friends such as Jamal Jivanjee and those of us who have been unwavering in our support for Rifqa Bary’s civil rights and religious liberty.

Now she is scared. Her entire legal strategy was directed at keeping her safe and securing her immigration status, and here we are at the end of May and she has no immigration status. Upon her birthday in August 2010, she will be an illegal alien, in need of serious chemotherapy and cancer treatment. This is a horror.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/05/rifqa-bary-suffering-from-cancer-her-lawyers-bring-in-her-parents-.html


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 24, 2010, 01:47:37 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG,how horrible.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 24, 2010, 01:52:26 PM
sleddogs,thank you for that post.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: joesamas mama on May 24, 2010, 02:27:54 PM
Rifqa Bary Suffering from Cancer, Her Lawyers Bring in Her Parents

There has been a terrible development in the case of Rifqa Bary. According to Rifqa, she has been diagnosed with advanced uterine cancer

I ask all Atlas readers to put Rifqa in their prayers.

While this is a tragedy, how she is being victimized by her lawyers and her parents is an atrocity. Her lawyers kept her in the dark about her condition – cancer – for well over a week, while they conferred with her parents and their CAIR appointed lawyers about her treatment. While most cases like this result in a hysterectomy, she is only having the advanced malignancy removed. From what I understand, the survival rate in cases like these is 5%.

Was she allowed to get a second opinion? No.

While she was lying ill, her lawyers brought her parents to her hospital bed. She was strapped down for treatment and became very agitated and upset, and they had to be removed. She has broken her silence, a silence mandated by her lawyers, that she could not talk to her friends such as Jamal Jivanjee and those of us who have been unwavering in our support for Rifqa Bary’s civil rights and religious liberty.

Now she is scared. Her entire legal strategy was directed at keeping her safe and securing her immigration status, and here we are at the end of May and she has no immigration status. Upon her birthday in August 2010, she will be an illegal alien, in need of serious chemotherapy and cancer treatment. This is a horror.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/05/rifqa-bary-suffering-from-cancer-her-lawyers-bring-in-her-parents-.html
OMG, I haven't even read Atlas today Sledog. Thank you for the update. Prayers for Rifqa, her family, her attorney and CAIR should be removed from her life.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Wyks on May 24, 2010, 11:22:20 PM
Am shocked and stunned at what is going on with Rifqa!  I don't even have the words yet to further describe how I feel about what she has gone thru at the hands of so many entrusted with her care and safety... starting with her parents and ending with her attorneys in Ohio...   ::MonkeyTears::

My heartfelt thoughts and prayers are for her and those who only intend good toward her. 

My deepest and sincere wish for her at the moment is for some Godly Christian to be able to reach her and help her to understand that our God, her God, is a miracle-working God.  And He can and will continue to touch her heart and her life.  She needs to hold strong to her belief in Him, to know and believe that He also can bring her to a complete healing in body as well. 

"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven.  For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."  ~ Matthew 18:19-20   

Dear Lord, there are several Bible believing Christian monkeys reading this thread who come together in agreement online, holding Rifqa up to the loving care of God, for protection and for healing in body and spirit.  In Jesus name we pray.  Amen ~ so be it.   


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 25, 2010, 06:40:44 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/5/25/report_runaway_teen_battling_uterine_cancer.html
 Report: Runaway Teen Battling Uterine Cancer
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:01:21 AM
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A published report says the teenager who ran away to Orlando after converting to Christianity has cancer.

A lawyer who once represented Rifqa Bary tells the Orlando Sentinel the teenager is being treated for uterine cancer and will have surgery this week.

Bary is in foster care in her home state of Ohio after an Orange County judge denied Bary's claims she would be harmed by her Muslim family for her religious conversion.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 25, 2010, 08:01:14 AM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: just too sad for words...


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: MuffyBee on May 25, 2010, 01:52:25 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: just too sad for words...

Tragic  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 27, 2010, 10:20:33 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/23693633/detail.html
Rifqa Bary To Undergo 3rd Cancer Surgery
17-Year-Old Religious Runaway Battling Uterine Cancer

POSTED: 6:55 am EDT May 27, 2010
UPDATED: 9:58 am EDT May 27, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
So-called religious runaway Rifqa Bary will have another cancer surgery on Thursday.

She is in the advanced stages of uterine cancer. This will be her third surgery.

The 17-year-old is undergoing her treatments while living with a foster family in Ohio.

Rifqa returned to Ohio after a lengthy court battle in Orlando.
#  Video:  Parents End Battle To Bring Rifqa Home   http://www.wesh.com/video/22280765/index.html


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 27, 2010, 10:24:40 AM
http://www.lakewyliepilot.com/2010/05/25/736950/teenage-christian-convert-in-ohio.html

Published: Tuesday, May. 25, 2010 / Updated: Tuesday, May. 25, 2010 03:39 PM
Teenage Christian convert in Ohio fighting cancer
The Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio --

A teenager who converted to Christianity and ran away from her Ohio home alleging she would otherwise be harmed has cancer and is undergoing surgery.

Seventeen-year-old Rifqa Bary fled Ohio last year and stayed with a Florida minister she met on Facebook. She is scheduled for surgery for uterine cancer Thursday.

Jamal Jivanjee (jih-VAHN'-jee) is a Florida minister and friend of the girl. He said Tuesday that Bary is expected to need several rounds of chemotherapy after the surgery.


The teenager from suburban Columbus returned to Ohio this year and has been in foster care while a judge tries to reconcile her with her family.

Bary's Muslim parents deny allegations she would have been harmed, and police found no evidence she was in danger in Ohio.
(http://media.lakewyliepilot.com/smedia/2010/05/25/15/809-US_Runaway_Convert.sff.embedded.prod_affiliate.115.jpg)
AP Photo - FILE - In this March 2, 2010 file photo, Rifqa Bary listens to the judge during a hearing to settle disputes between Bary and her parents in Columbus, Ohio. Bary, 17, who converted to Christianity and ran away from her Ohio home alleging she would otherwise be harmed, has uterine cancer and will undergoing surgery Thursday, said Jamal Jivanjee, a Florida minister and friend of the girl Tuesday, May 25, 2010. Bary returned to Ohio this year and has been in foster care while a judge tries to reconcile her with her family.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 29, 2010, 08:40:14 PM


So sad.

God be with you and cure you from all that is affecting you, Fathima.

 ::MonkeyAngel::




Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 02, 2010, 10:05:36 AM
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/06/01/Attorney-for-Rifqa-Bary-pleads-not-guilty-in-releasing-information.html?sid=101
Attorney for Rifqa Bary pleads not guilty in releasing information
Tuesday, June 1, 2010  08:42 PM
By Meredith Heagney
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

An attorney for teen runaway Rifqa Bary has pleaded not guilty to two misdemeanor counts that she released confidential information about the girl and her family.

Rifqa's father, Mohamed Bary, filed a criminal complaint alleging that Angela Lloyd included in court filings information about his family's  dependency case from the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services that should be sealed by law. The media have access to the case file.

Bary said Lloyd released such information as phone numbers and birth dates, and information about the Franklin County Children Services investigation.

Lloyd's attorney, Jeff Liston, said after a preliminary hearing in Franklin County Juvenile Court today that he does not think his client committed a crime.
If convicted, the charges, both fourth-degree misdemeanors, carry a possibility of jail time and fines, Liston said.

A trial date has not been set. Juvenile Court Judge Elizabeth Gill is deciding whether she should hear the case, considering her role overseeing Rifqa's case.

Rifqa, 17, ran away in July, accusing her father of threatening to kill her for converting from Islam to Christianity. Authorities have not substantiated her report.

mheagney@dispatch.com


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 03, 2010, 08:38:01 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/24492758/detail.html
Former Religious Runaway Rejects Family Reunion

Posted: 5:37 am EDT August 3, 2010
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A judge is scheduled to hear arguments from a Christian convert who says a reunion with her Muslim parents is impossible before the girl's 18th birthday next week.

At a hearing Tuesday, Rifqa Bary (RIHF'-kuh BAYR'-ee) is also expected to ask the Franklin County juvenile court judge for special immigration status to allow her to stay in the country.

The 17-year-old Bary is an undocumented immigrant from Sri Lanka who says she needs the status to continue medical treatment for uterine cancer.

Bary fled Ohio last year and stayed with a Florida minister she met on Facebook after alleging she could be hurt or killed for converting to Christianity.

Bary's Muslim parents deny she would have been harmed. Police found no evidence she was in danger in Ohio.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Sister on August 03, 2010, 09:32:22 AM
Trimm, thanks for the update.  My continued prayers for this young woman to be able to control her own life, including not seeing the bio.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: sleddogs on August 03, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Rifqa Bary refusing chemotherapy, court document says
Convert believes faith-healing cured cancer, according to motion
Tuesday, August 3, 2010  02:52 AM
By Meredith Heagney
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Cancer is the latest chapter in the story of Rifqa Bary, who ran away from home in 2009, saying her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.
JAY LAPRETE | ASSOCIATED PRESS
Cancer is the latest chapter in the story of Rifqa Bary, who ran away from home in 2009, saying her Muslim father would kill her for converting to Christianity.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/08/03/parents-want-court-to-force-treatment.html?sid=101
Christian convert Rifqa Bary is refusing chemotherapy for cancer because she believes that she was cured at a faith-healing event, according to a motion in Franklin County Juvenile Court.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 05, 2010, 05:13:56 PM
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2010/08/05/story-columbus-rifqa-bary-deportation-hearing.html?sid=102
Christian Convert To Remain In U.S.
Thursday,  August 5, 2010 4:39 PM
WBNS-10TV
COLUMBUS, Ohio — A magistrate ruled Thursday that a runaway Christian convert who was at odds with her Muslim parents will not be deported.

Rifqa Bary, 17, will receive special immigration status, allowing her to stay in the U.S., 10TV's Ashleigh Barry reported.

Bary's attorneys have said that the girl, who will turn 18 next week, is battling uterine cancer.

Bary ran away from home last year, saying that she feared harm for converting to Christianity.  Judges placed her in foster care.

The immigration status of the parents, who live in Columbus, was not immediately clear.

Stay with 10TV News and refresh 10TV.com for continuing coverage.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2010, 05:26:31 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24908540/detail.html
Religious Runaway Gains Legal U.S. Residence
POSTED: 11:42 am EDT September 7, 2010
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A lawyer for a runaway Christian convert from Ohio who was also an illegal immigrant says the 18-year-old woman has gained permanent residency in the United States.

Kort Gatterdam, a lawyer for Rifqa Bary, said Tuesday the news means Bary can now start applying for a driver's license, Medicaid coverage and college scholarships.

Gatterdam says Bary, a native of Sri Lanka, received her permanent residency card last week and can apply for citizenship in five years.

Bary had sought the green card as she argued in court she could not reunite with her Muslim parents, whom she alleged threatened her with harm for converting.

Bary also sought legal residency to achieve health coverage as she battles uterine cancer.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Sister on September 07, 2010, 06:55:31 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/24908540/detail.html
Religious Runaway Gains Legal U.S. Residence
POSTED: 11:42 am EDT September 7, 2010
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- A lawyer for a runaway Christian convert from Ohio who was also an illegal immigrant says the 18-year-old woman has gained permanent residency in the United States.

Kort Gatterdam, a lawyer for Rifqa Bary, said Tuesday the news means Bary can now start applying for a driver's license, Medicaid coverage and college scholarships.

Gatterdam says Bary, a native of Sri Lanka, received her permanent residency card last week and can apply for citizenship in five years.

Bary had sought the green card as she argued in court she could not reunite with her Muslim parents, whom she alleged threatened her with harm for converting.

Bary also sought legal residency to achieve health coverage as she battles uterine cancer.

So much for such a young woman to have to go through -- may the peace of the Lord bring her comfort.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 13, 2010, 10:49:33 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/october/161229/Blogger-cites-free-speech-in-Ohio-convert-lawsuit
Blogger cites free speech in Ohio convert lawsuit
Last Updated: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:58 AM
 COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) --

A blogger championing the case of a Muslim-to-Christian convert from Ohio says allegedly defamatory comments she's being sued over were protected free speech.

Atlas Shrugs blogger Pamela Geller also says many of the postings singled out in a federal lawsuit could fall into the realm of hyperbole and not defamation.

Geller says in a federal court filing Tuesday that she is a journalist writing about a matter of public interest and is protected by the First Amendment.

Ohio attorney Omar Tarazi sued Geller for $10 million last month to compensate him for damage he alleges Geller's comments did to his reputation.

Tarazi represented the parents of Rifqa Bary, a Christian teenager who fled from her Columbus-area home to Florida, saying she feared harm from her Muslim mother and father.

More Info

    * Blog: Pamela Geller's Atlas Shrugs http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/



Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Sister on October 14, 2010, 02:03:20 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/october/161229/Blogger-cites-free-speech-in-Ohio-convert-lawsuit
Blogger cites free speech in Ohio convert lawsuit
Last Updated: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:58 AM
 COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) --

A blogger championing the case of a Muslim-to-Christian convert from Ohio says allegedly defamatory comments she's being sued over were protected free speech.

Atlas Shrugs blogger Pamela Geller also says many of the postings singled out in a federal lawsuit could fall into the realm of hyperbole and not defamation.

Geller says in a federal court filing Tuesday that she is a journalist writing about a matter of public interest and is protected by the First Amendment.

Ohio attorney Omar Tarazi sued Geller for $10 million last month to compensate him for damage he alleges Geller's comments did to his reputation.

Tarazi represented the parents of Rifqa Bary, a Christian teenager who fled from her Columbus-area home to Florida, saying she feared harm from her Muslim mother and father.

More Info

    * Blog: Pamela Geller's Atlas Shrugs http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/



Tarazi ruined his own reputation . . . IMO


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on January 04, 2011, 04:00:25 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/january/190139/Orlando-lawyer-faulted-in-case-of-runaway-convert-Rifqa-Bary
Orlando lawyer faulted in case of runaway convert Rifqa Bary
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:30 PM
ORLANDO --

The Florida Bar has filed a complaint alleging misconduct by the former attorney of an Ohio teen who ran away to Florida after converting from Islam to Christianity.

The complaint alleges Orlando lawyer John Stemberger accused the attorney for Rifqa Bary's parents of being paid by groups with terrorist ties based solely on information from Facebook and a blog.

The complaint also said Stemberger appeared on TV as an attorney for the teenager after he stopped representing her.

The Florida Bar said its complaint was mailed to the Florida Supreme Court on Monday.

Stemberger and his attorney did not immediately return messages for comment.

Possible penalties range from a reprimand to disbarment.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: Babybear on January 04, 2011, 10:11:53 PM
Hello Monkeys--long time no see.  It has come to the point in this country, IMO, that Sharia is no longer creeping, it is racing.  Anyone who criticizes a Muslim for any reason whatsoever is open to attack. Pamela Geller serves a great public service by exposing Islamists for what they are--enemies of the US who are bound and determined to bring this country into a grand caliphate which will rule world-wide according to the book written by a pedophile whom they seek to emulate.

I thank God that Rifqa is free of them, if one can ever be free.  I wish her the best in her future life and especially in her serious health problems.  This young girl has been through so much in her young life and now that she is free of the pernicious influences under which she suffered so much, including the loss of vision in one eye, now this.  Sometimes life isn't fair, but if anyone deserves a happy life, it is Rifqa.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 09, 2011, 05:30:13 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/february/205623/Runaway-teen-Rifqa-Bary-makes-first-public-statement
'Runaway teen' Rifqa Bary makes first public statement

Last Updated: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:05 PM
<snipped>
Bary fled her home in Columbus in 2009 to Orlando after her father reportedly threatened her life for not renouncing her conversion to Christianity.

Bary stated Stemberger “behaved in a very professional and ethical manner during the entire time he represented me.” She continued saying that Stemberger “played a major role in my eventual safety… and securing my position as a Legal Permanent Resident of the United States. I am grateful to this lawyer for his pro-bono service to me...and was completely satisfied with his legal services.”

When discussing Tarazi’s behavior, Rifqa said he “conducted himself unprofessionally and harmed my ability to reunite myself with my parents in a number of ways…”


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on February 09, 2011, 05:37:46 AM
http://news-herald.com/articles/2011/02/09/news/nh3620976.txt
Runaway convert criticizes parents' lawyer
Published: Wednesday, February 09, 2011

<snipped>
Bary said Tarazi conducted himself unprofessionally by recommending her parents try to have her declared an unruly child. Tarazi "harmed my ability to reunify myself with my family in a number of ways," she said.

She criticized him for filing motions to bar her from receiving Christmas cards from friends and supporters and to have her computer activity monitored. She also said he fought her efforts to obtain a special immigration status for juveniles in the country illegally.

Bary and her parents appeared estranged each time they were in court together, often sitting just a few feet apart across a juvenile courtroom without ever speaking.

Tarazi said Tuesday that Bary's statement was inaccurate and said she was being used by Stemberger.

"If she wants to reconcile with her family the doors are always open," Tarazi said. "She can call them anytime, and they miss her very much."

Bary, a native of Sri Lanka who has since turned 18 and obtained a green card, had not commented publicly about her case previously.

Authorities have said they found no credible threats to the girl following her conversion.


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on March 20, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/27256218/detail.html
Report: Police Wanted Charges Filed In Religious Runaway Case
Posted: 3:57 pm EDT March 20, 2011
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Police recommended charges against six of the people who helped a teenage Christian convert run away from her Muslim parents in Ohio in 2009, an investigation by The Associated Press has found.

But prosecutors in Ohio and Florida have declined to file charges against anyone who helped 16-year-old Rifqa Bary leave Columbus on a Greyhound bus and shelter her for two weeks in Orlando without notifying authorities, according to police reports obtained by the AP through freedom of information requests.

The six include a Kansas City minister, a Columbus family friend, an Orlando pastor and his wife and two members of the pastor's church.

A lawyer for Bary, now an adult, says prosecutors made the right choice.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 22, 2011, 06:22:21 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-rifqa-bary-runaway-convert-lawsuit-20110921,0,7872158.story#tugs_story_display
Rifqa Bary: Ohio lawyer drops $10M lawsuit in convert case
By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS, AP Legal Affairs Writer


12:35 p.m. EDT, September 21, 2011
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A blogger often critical of Islam and a former lawyer for the Muslim parents of a runaway Christian convert have settled a defamation lawsuit filed by the attorney.

The settlement announced in a federal court filing late Tuesday was the latest twist in the case of Rifqa Bary, who fled Ohio for Florida in 2009 saying she feared harm or death for converting to Christianity.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fathima Rifqa Bary, 16 from New Albany, OH
Post by: KittyMom on September 22, 2011, 08:57:33 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-rifqa-bary-runaway-convert-lawsuit-20110921,0,7872158.story#tugs_story_display
Rifqa Bary: Ohio lawyer drops $10M lawsuit in convert case
By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS, AP Legal Affairs Writer


12:35 p.m. EDT, September 21, 2011
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A blogger often critical of Islam and a former lawyer for the Muslim parents of a runaway Christian convert have settled a defamation lawsuit filed by the attorney.

The settlement announced in a federal court filing late Tuesday was the latest twist in the case of Rifqa Bary, who fled Ohio for Florida in 2009 saying she feared harm or death for converting to Christianity.
 ::snipping2::
a settlement...that just seems so wrong, but given the state of our country today, fits right in there.