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Title: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 12, 2011, 08:59:31 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 17, 2011, 08:51:47 PM
Colorado City Teens Pay Tribute to Missing Colorado City Teen

NEAR DUNN, TEXAS - Word of missing teen Hailey Dunn is hitting home with those of all ages.

A group of Colorado City teens are doing their part to pay tribute to her.

They simply call it "Hailey's Bridge."

The group decorated a bridge with bears, signs and posters.

It's located near Dunn and just happens to be down the road from where Shawn Adkins, a person of interest Hailey's disappearance, is staying.

The group hopes this bridge will remind everyone not to give up faith for Hailey's safe return.

People in the town have named the group "Hailey's Angels."

"Hailey's Angels" meet every morning on the bridge to pray for the missing teen before they start their search.

(http://kwes.images.worldnow.com/images/13858044_BG1.jpg)

http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13858044


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 17, 2011, 08:54:37 PM
Grace Airs Videos of Adkins Allegedly Holding Knives, Smoking Pot

The entire nation got a look at the videos and images posted on bigcountryhomepage.com last week that believe to show Shawn Adkins dressed in costume while holding knives and using illegal drugs. Nancy Grace broadcast the videos during Monday's show on HLN.
Adkins is the boyfriend of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's mother. He is the only person named as a suspect in the case.

"I think that was from before we got together," mother Billie Dunn said in response to the videos. "I did see some online and it's not good"

Grace showed the videos over and over again and asked her "unleash the lawyers" panel what the images could mean if it was one of their clients. The attorneys said while the videos and pictures didn't look good, they aren't necessarily admissible in court.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332277


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 08:56:40 PM
NG: background of slasher films - in Hailey Dunn's room. All watched horror movies in this house. Comedies can not be looked down upon. Something about SA - that fits the profile and doesn't care that he acts that slasher part. He did threaten Billie and Hailey before. Not normal, aggressive and obsessed and fits the profile in this case.

Copied because I was to lazy to type it out, but WTH???

Also, I wonder why Nancy didn't even pick up on the tidbit about the prior threats~and at least jinkassauras picked up on the fact the text may not have been sent by Hailey


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 17, 2011, 08:56:53 PM
dunn cemetery is across from where sa is staying very little resting place


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 17, 2011, 08:59:11 PM
dunn cemetery is across from where sa is staying very little resting place

thanks Helper..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 17, 2011, 08:59:52 PM
 I  hope we'll have answers and Haily Dunn will be found before this thread #3 goes to thread #4.  Hailey has been missing since December 27th. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 09:00:19 PM
I'm just jumping on, and haven't gone back to the last thread and don't know if this was discussed. I am often wrong and maybe I am this time, but did anyone else hear while Billie was recounting the day Hailey went missing that she said she noticed Hailey's bed had not been slept in?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 17, 2011, 09:00:29 PM
I  hope we'll have answers and Haily Dunn will be found before this thread #3 goes to thread #4.  Hailey has been missing since December 27th. 

my hope as well Muffers..xxxx


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 17, 2011, 09:01:23 PM
I'm just jumping on, and haven't gone back to the last thread and don't know if this was discussed. I am often wrong and maybe I am this time, but did anyone else hear while Billie was recounting the day Hailey went missing that she said she noticed Hailey's bed had not been slept in?

nope...missed that one...when did she say that? tonight?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 09:02:06 PM
NG: background of slasher films - in Hailey Dunn's room. All watched horror movies in this house. Comedies can not be looked down upon. Something about SA - that fits the profile and doesn't care that he acts that slasher part. He did threaten Billie and Hailey before. Not normal, aggressive and obsessed and fits the profile in this case.

Copied because I was to lazy to type it out, but WTH???

Also, I wonder why Nancy didn't even pick up on the tidbit about the prior threats~and at least jinkassauras picked up on the fact the text may not have been sent by Hailey

Where that call pinged from would be important. Shawn was at his mother's at that two o'clock.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 09:03:14 PM
I'm just jumping on, and haven't gone back to the last thread and don't know if this was discussed. I am often wrong and maybe I am this time, but did anyone else hear while Billie was recounting the day Hailey went missing that she said she noticed Hailey's bed had not been slept in?

nope...missed that one...when did she say that? tonight?

Yep, I'll relisten when it comes on again. Billie said it under her breath I think.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2011, 09:19:02 PM
I'm just jumping on, and haven't gone back to the last thread and don't know if this was discussed. I am often wrong and maybe I am this time, but did anyone else hear while Billie was recounting the day Hailey went missing that she said she noticed Hailey's bed had not been slept in?


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked look she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 09:19:21 PM
I'm just jumping on, and haven't gone back to the last thread and don't know if this was discussed. I am often wrong and maybe I am this time, but did anyone else hear while Billie was recounting the day Hailey went missing that she said she noticed Hailey's bed had not been slept in?

nope...missed that one...when did she say that? tonight?

Yep, I'll relisten when it comes on again. Billie said it under her breath I think.

I missed it too, but that's not hard since she speaks in riddles and very softly most of the time. But, I also misssed exactly what the caller stated about relatives finding out  that Hailey was missing from work instead of Billie/Clint. Of course I don't know what family memeber etc., but it is odd...then again what is NOT odd in this case


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 09:23:23 PM
NG: background of slasher films - in Hailey Dunn's room. All watched horror movies in this house. Comedies can not be looked down upon. Something about SA - that fits the profile and doesn't care that he acts that slasher part. He did threaten Billie and Hailey before. Not normal, aggressive and obsessed and fits the profile in this case.

Copied because I was to lazy to type it out, but WTH???

Also, I wonder why Nancy didn't even pick up on the tidbit about the prior threats~and at least jinkassauras picked up on the fact the text may not have been sent by Hailey

Do you suppose Billie thought those films were comedies? Did they sit there and watch them and roll with laughter? How desensitized must they be??  ::MonkeyEek::

And you'd let your kids watch them? What kind of nightmare did those poor kids have? ::MonkeyShocked:: I would think subjecting them to those films would be child abuse.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 09:28:40 PM
I'm just jumping on, and haven't gone back to the last thread and don't know if this was discussed. I am often wrong and maybe I am this time, but did anyone else hear while Billie was recounting the day Hailey went missing that she said she noticed Hailey's bed had not been slept in?


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked look she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


No, that wasn't it. It was tonight during the time she was talking about what happened the day she reported Hailey missing. Nancy kept asking her when did Shawn tell her Hailey was missing. she explained Shawn didn't tell her. Her son said she didn't show up at the girlfriend house, and it was sometime in there where I thought she said she noticed Hailey's bed hadn't been slept. Maybe I am going completely off my rocker.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 09:30:28 PM
NG: background of slasher films - in Hailey Dunn's room. All watched horror movies in this house. Comedies can not be looked down upon. Something about SA - that fits the profile and doesn't care that he acts that slasher part. He did threaten Billie and Hailey before. Not normal, aggressive and obsessed and fits the profile in this case.

Copied because I was to lazy to type it out, but WTH???

Also, I wonder why Nancy didn't even pick up on the tidbit about the prior threats~and at least jinkassauras picked up on the fact the text may not have been sent by Hailey

Do you suppose Billie thought those films were comedies? Did they sit there and watch them and roll with laughter? How desensitized must they be??  ::MonkeyEek::

And you'd let your kids watch them? What kind of nightmare did those poor kids have? ::MonkeyShocked:: I would think subjecting them to those films would be child abuse.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Who knows, I think she has a warped view of the world with everything considered, ie the fact she talks more to her BF when on local TV than Hailey and how she loves him, grrrrr. I am not saying my kids have never seen a horror film, but it wasn't here ( I found out about it later and my daughter never went back). This case reminds me so much of HaLeigh that I swear I am waiting for tattoos , a banner on the truck that reads only Michael Myers can judge me, and a Halloween themed wedding ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 17, 2011, 09:33:41 PM
What text ?
I missed NG and now I will have to watch it on the repeat.
..
IMO, Billie wants to get back with Shawn. Anything we hear from her is going to be reasons he is not involved. We all read the affadavits and have looked at the cell pings. I put my faith in LE rather than Billie and anything she knows or thinks she knows because Shawn told her so.
.. When she first disclosed that she failed the LDT, she also disclosed that Shawn and a few other persons had failed theirs ... two conclusions :
a.) persons were lying
b.) LDTwere wrong 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 09:33:52 PM
I posted this and it got lost on the last thread, but wouldn't you check the cell phone after making the report to LE to see the call log, and the text? Also, am I the only one that finds it weird that in the affadavits the LE never state where Billie's phone was pinging, but only where Shawn's phone pinged? At first I read it wrong, but went and read it again and to my recollection it mentions nothing about where it actually pinged.........pls correct me if I am wrong ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2011, 09:38:53 PM
I'm just jumping on, and haven't gone back to the last thread and don't know if this was discussed. I am often wrong and maybe I am this time, but did anyone else hear while Billie was recounting the day Hailey went missing that she said she noticed Hailey's bed had not been slept in?


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked look she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


No, that wasn't it. It was tonight during the time she was talking about what happened the day she reported Hailey missing. Nancy kept asking her when did Shawn tell her Hailey was missing. she explained Shawn didn't tell her. Her son said she didn't show up at the girlfriend house, and it was sometime in there where I thought she said she noticed Hailey's bed hadn't been slept. Maybe I am going completely off my rocker.  ::rhino::

I didn't watch the Nancy Grace Show tonight.  It repeats on HLN at 7:00/10:00 PM PT.  I try to watch one of the repeats.  Nevertheless ... a transcript is posted around 10:00 PM.

Janet

++++++

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 09:43:15 PM
What text ?
I missed NG and now I will have to watch it on the repeat.
..
IMO, Billie wants to get back with Shawn. Anything we hear from her is going to be reasons he is not involved. We all read the affadavits and have looked at the cell pings. I put my faith in LE rather than Billie and anything she knows or thinks she knows because Shawn told her so.
.. When she first disclosed that she failed the LDT, she also disclosed that Shawn and a few other persons had failed theirs ... two conclusions :
a.) persons were lying
b.) LDTwere wrong 

Billie said there was a text on her phone at 2pm on Monday and IIRC it was to MS and it just stated "what are you doing", no reply or follow up....wrt EVERYTHING else you psosted, as usual ITA ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 09:47:43 PM
Thanks. I'll look for both. I'm probably wrong. I'm doubting myself. Someone may need to take my computer away from me. I've already hidden my drivers license.   (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-scared004.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 09:51:25 PM
NG: background of slasher films - in Hailey Dunn's room. All watched horror movies in this house. Comedies can not be looked down upon. Something about SA - that fits the profile and doesn't care that he acts that slasher part. He did threaten Billie and Hailey before. Not normal, aggressive and obsessed and fits the profile in this case.

Copied because I was to lazy to type it out, but WTH???

Also, I wonder why Nancy didn't even pick up on the tidbit about the prior threats~and at least jinkassauras picked up on the fact the text may not have been sent by Hailey

Do you suppose Billie thought those films were comedies? Did they sit there and watch them and roll with laughter? How desensitized must they be??  ::MonkeyEek::

And you'd let your kids watch them? What kind of nightmare did those poor kids have? ::MonkeyShocked:: I would think subjecting them to those films would be child abuse.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Who knows, I think she has a warped view of the world with everything considered, ie the fact she talks more to her BF when on local TV than Hailey and how she loves him, grrrrr. I am not saying my kids have never seen a horror film, but it wasn't here ( I found out about it later and my daughter never went back). This case reminds me so much of HaLeigh that I swear I am waiting for tattoos , a banner on the truck that reads only Michael Myers can judge me, and a Halloween themed wedding ::MonkeyNoNo::

You left out the sister with the strange looking hairdo's plastered on her forehead.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
Tamikosmom's Theory in a Nutshell

December 26, 2010
- Hailey is last seen by David. PM

December 26, 2010 - December 27, 2010
- During the night Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in bed.
- To assure silence Hailey is killed in bed and covered her blanket.

December 27, 2010
- Shawn leave for work. AM
- Billie leaves for work. AM
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure. AM
- Shawn retrieves Hailey's body. AM
- Shawn disposed of Hailey's body somewhere between home and Big Spring. AM
- Shawn spends day with his mother in Big Springs.
- Shawn returns home prior to David's arrival. PM
- Shawn picks Billie up from work. PM 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2011, 10:04:12 PM
Nancy Grace Time!!

Janet
7:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2011, 10:06:24 PM
Nancy Grace Time!!

Janet
7:00 PM PT

OOPS!

Joy Behar?  I guess the scheduling has changed.  Sorry.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 10:08:38 PM
Nancy Grace Time!!

Janet
7:00 PM PT

Joy Behar is on my HLN right now. Nancy Grace is back on at midnight here.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2011, 10:09:43 PM
Tamikosmom's Theory in a Nutshell

December 26, 2010
- Hailey is last seen by David. PM

December 26, 2010 - December 27, 2010
- During the night Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in bed.
- To assure silence Hailey is killed in bed and covered her blanket.

December 27, 2010
- Shawn leave for work. AM
- Billie leaves for work. AM
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure. AM
- Shawn retrieves Hailey's body. AM
- Shawn disposed of Hailey's body somewhere between home and Big Spring. AM
- Shawn spends day with his mother in Big Springs.
- Shawn returns home prior to David's arrival. PM
- Shawn picks Billie up from work. PM  

They said that lies are told in attempt to cover up the truth.  What truth is Shawn attempting to hide?

1.  Why did Shawn lie about why he left work shortly after he arrived?
2.  Why did Shawn lie about going directly to his mother's home in Big Springs?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 17, 2011, 10:11:01 PM
Edit - My last post.

Big Ben s/b Big Springs


Done = San


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 17, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
So, NG is on a different time. Oh well.
..
TY IM for the text information.
..
LE would be crazy to share ANY of their info with Billie, like as if it wouldn't get right to Shawn in some manner. Her friend was on WS saying that there is a Billie in Shawn's family. Maybe there is a mix up. Snort. This friend of hers hardly saw Billie the past few years, mostly she saw her when Clint / Billie were together as her hubs worked with Clint. Most of the contact has been by phone until this. Their kids used to do sleepovers at each other's houses, but not since the break up of Billie / Clint. People change.
Anyway, I will stay tuned. The more Billie talks, the deeper it gets. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 10:28:45 PM
So, NG is on a different time. Oh well.
..
TY IM for the text information.
..
LE would be crazy to share ANY of their info with Billie, like as if it wouldn't get right to Shawn in some manner. Her friend was on WS saying that there is a Billie in Shawn's family. Maybe there is a mix up. Snort. This friend of hers hardly saw Billie the past few years, mostly she saw her when Clint / Billie were together as her hubs worked with Clint. Most of the contact has been by phone until this. Their kids used to do sleepovers at each other's houses, but not since the break up of Billie / Clint. People change.
Anyway, I will stay tuned. The more Billie talks, the deeper it gets. 

If Nancy would just shut up and let her talk and quit interrupting her, we'd know a lot more. I was waiting for Clint to backhand Billie tonight. I can't stand for a man to hit a woman, but tonight I think I would give him a pass.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Turtletop17 on January 17, 2011, 10:31:53 PM
After watching Nancy second show tonight...I need to share my story. Watching these families it breaks my heart...but me being a victim of kidnapping I understand the pain these kids are going through. I cried during the whole show, and its something I havent done in some time, but it brought back so many scary memories for me! I wouldnt be sitting here today if it wasnt for my neighbor that was 87 years old and never learned how to drive, so she was always home! It was her quick reaction that saved not only me but my sister who was 1 yr older than I was. I had asked my sister to watch me walk back home when 2 men turned in my direction....I ran back to her seeking help (She was only 8), the men were about to get 2 instead of one. The little old lady came out and fired one shot in the air just as they were draggin me into the car. My poor sister was standing so shocked and helpless. I fought hard enough to get away when Mrs Limbo fired her shotgun....MR LIMBO IS MY HERO!

Please everyone hug your kids a little tighter, keep both eyes open and NEVER EVER think this world is safe. Do not ever get comfortable enough to let your kids out of your sight or think you can trust anyone...because I know first hand 26 years ago they were taking kids and today they are getting better at taking kids!

Mods if this is in the wrong thread please let me know.

Just needed to share my story...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 10:33:39 PM
So, NG is on a different time. Oh well.
..
TY IM for the text information.
..
LE would be crazy to share ANY of their info with Billie, like as if it wouldn't get right to Shawn in some manner. Her friend was on WS saying that there is a Billie in Shawn's family. Maybe there is a mix up. Snort. This friend of hers hardly saw Billie the past few years, mostly she saw her when Clint / Billie were together as her hubs worked with Clint. Most of the contact has been by phone until this. Their kids used to do sleepovers at each other's houses, but not since the break up of Billie / Clint. People change.
Anyway, I will stay tuned. The more Billie talks, the deeper it gets. 
::HelloKitty:: YW....I think you are right, IMO LE needs to always keep a tight reign on investigations for this very reason, the mom is so into BF it looks like she is constantly making excuses for him and/or getting info to him via Media, remember when she told him on air "IF you have NOTHING to do with this, just clear your name"........THUD, well IMO that could be as good as STFU, I have your back.

Double snort on the "other Billie" ::MonkeyShovel:: I also saw someone uploaded the NG transcripts from some non HLN site and it is a contradiction in the same show~course it could be wrong and now that Joy is on I have to wait til midnight to watch:

http://www.livedash.com/transcript/n...7_2011/549239/


00:36:04 But there's also another layd, jean burris, a neighbor of ours, whose grandchildren grew up with our kids, she says her granddaughter saw her monday between 10:30 and 12:00.00:36:23 She knows it wasonday because she doesn't do hair on sunday.
00:36:26 I believe jillian spoke with her also, but police aren't telling me that.
00:36:30 >> We did talk to her, this is the hairstylist.
00:36:33 Did she say her out the window or did her children see hailey or both?
00:36:39 >> She saw hailey out the window.
00:36:41 >> Right.
00:36:41 30 and 12:00, where was hailey?
00:36:47 >> Just cutting across her yard.
00:36:49 >> Across her yard going to where?
00:36:54 >> Possibly toward the dollar store that she walked to, but she lives catty corner from me.
00:37:00 My backyard catty corners to her backyard.
00:37:04 >> You said she was on her way to the dollar store, did she ever make it to the dollar store?
00:37:09 Do we know?
00:37:09 >> No, they say the only video footage they have of her in the dollar store was sunday.
00:37:17 >> Okay, that's odd, because they do have video of her on sunday.
00:37:20 Is there anyway jean was mistaken and saw her on sunday?
00:37:26 >> Several people tell me if jean saw her monday then she definitely saw her monday

So~did Jean see Hailey OR did Jean's grandkids OR another question WTH hasn't she asked Jean herself vs several ppl told me Jean saw her. She lives catty-corner so it couldn't be that hard to ask ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 17, 2011, 10:35:26 PM
Do we know if LE has taken cadaver dogs through the home where Hailey lived?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Turtletop17 on January 17, 2011, 10:36:21 PM
Sorry I meant to say my sister was only 8....I was 7.

I hope and pray has not been a victim of a kidnapping, if she has finding her alive may be impossible. I share my story with my kids every so often. It hurts to have to tell them, and it scares them terribly, but I would rather them be scared while I am here to protect them than to get kidnapped and be scared and I cant protect them.

This world is a very scary world we live in and I am scared of what this world still has to come!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 10:39:28 PM
After watching Nancy second show tonight...I need to share my story. Watching these families it breaks my heart...but me being a victim of kidnapping I understand the pain these kids are going through. I cried during the whole show, and its something I havent done in some time, but it brought back so many scary memories for me! I wouldnt be sitting here today if it wasnt for my neighbor that was 87 years old and never learned how to drive, so she was always home! It was her quick reaction that saved not only me but my sister who was 1 yr older than I was. I had asked my sister to watch me walk back home when 2 men turned in my direction....I ran back to her seeking help (She was only 8), the men were about to get 2 instead of one. The little old lady came out and fired one shot in the air just as they were draggin me into the car. My poor sister was standing so shocked and helpless. I fought hard enough to get away when Mrs Limbo fired her shotgun....MR LIMBO IS MY HERO!

Please everyone hug your kids a little tighter, keep both eyes open and NEVER EVER think this world is safe. Do not ever get comfortable enough to let your kids out of your sight or think you can trust anyone...because I know first hand 26 years ago they were taking kids and today they are getting better at taking kids!

Mods if this is in the wrong thread please let me know.

Just needed to share my story...

Thanks for sharing your story and it's so profound, never get comfortable and never take it for granted that you can trust anyone. Thank goodness for gun toting Ms Limbo :smt056

Every block needs a Ms Limbo IMO :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Turtletop17 on January 17, 2011, 10:42:35 PM
I wish there was... man that was not the only time I seen her shoot that gun either! They named the road we lived on after her!

BTW I live in East Texas and I saw way back where you grew up here...this happened in New Summerfield but I grew up in Rusk

small world


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 10:48:48 PM
After watching Nancy second show tonight...I need to share my story. Watching these families it breaks my heart...but me being a victim of kidnapping I understand the pain these kids are going through. I cried during the whole show, and its something I havent done in some time, but it brought back so many scary memories for me! I wouldnt be sitting here today if it wasnt for my neighbor that was 87 years old and never learned how to drive, so she was always home! It was her quick reaction that saved not only me but my sister who was 1 yr older than I was. I had asked my sister to watch me walk back home when 2 men turned in my direction....I ran back to her seeking help (She was only 8), the men were about to get 2 instead of one. The little old lady came out and fired one shot in the air just as they were draggin me into the car. My poor sister was standing so shocked and helpless. I fought hard enough to get away when Mrs Limbo fired her shotgun....MR LIMBO IS MY HERO!

Please everyone hug your kids a little tighter, keep both eyes open and NEVER EVER think this world is safe. Do not ever get comfortable enough to let your kids out of your sight or think you can trust anyone...because I know first hand 26 years ago they were taking kids and today they are getting better at taking kids!

Mods if this is in the wrong thread please let me know.

Just needed to share my story...

Thanks for sharing your story and it's so profound, never get comfortable and never take it for granted that you can trust anyone. Thank goodness for gun toting Ms Limbo :smt056

Every block needs a Ms Limbo IMO :)
TURTLETOP, thank you for sharing your story. Ms Limbo is surely an angel.  ::MonkeyAngel:: I am so sorry you had to go through this and live this memory. Telling your story may have saved other children the same fate.  :smt056


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 10:51:49 PM
Do we know if LE has taken cadaver dogs through the home where Hailey lived?

I don't think we have ever heard. It would be an obvious thing to do though, wouldn't it?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 17, 2011, 10:52:12 PM
NG: background of slasher films - in Hailey Dunn's room. All watched horror movies in this house. Comedies can not be looked down upon. Something about SA - that fits the profile and doesn't care that he acts that slasher part. He did threaten Billie and Hailey before. Not normal, aggressive and obsessed and fits the profile in this case.

Copied because I was to lazy to type it out, but WTH???

Also, I wonder why Nancy didn't even pick up on the tidbit about the prior threats~and at least jinkassauras picked up on the fact the text may not have been sent by Hailey

Do you suppose Billie thought those films were comedies? Did they sit there and watch them and roll with laughter? How desensitized must they be??  ::MonkeyEek::

And you'd let your kids watch them? What kind of nightmare did those poor kids have? ::MonkeyShocked:: I would think subjecting them to those films would be child abuse.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Who knows, I think she has a warped view of the world with everything considered, ie the fact she talks more to her BF when on local TV than Hailey and how she loves him, grrrrr. I am not saying my kids have never seen a horror film, but it wasn't here ( I found out about it later and my daughter never went back). This case reminds me so much of HaLeigh that I swear I am waiting for tattoos , a banner on the truck that reads only Michael Myers can judge me, and a Halloween themed wedding ::MonkeyNoNo::

IslandMonkey, I find it fishy how she didn't show emotion or signs of long nights spend sobbing or worrying when it was just Hailey missing, but when it turns out that she might not be able to "keep" her boyfriend suddenly she looks like she hasn't been sleeping and has been doing a lot of crying.  I think the change is so marked that it means something.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 10:53:08 PM
I keep checking on the Nancy Grace official transcript site, but it is still not posted.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 10:53:55 PM
I wish there was... man that was not the only time I seen her shoot that gun either! They named the road we lived on after her!

BTW I live in East Texas and I saw way back where you grew up here...this happened in New Summerfield but I grew up in Rusk

small world

I grew up all over the place, but the bulk was east Texas and I went to Bryan HS, and lived in a teeny little town called Hilltop Lakes, so I grew up with guns.....and seeing ppl shoot them often. I live in an area so similar now, everybody knows everybody, and their business, where your kids are, if they smoked a cig while you were at work and more. I rather like it to be honest, of course the man down the street didn't when the enti ::MonkeyDevil::re neighborhood told his wife about his mistress sneaking over when she was out of town


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 17, 2011, 10:55:59 PM
NG: background of slasher films - in Hailey Dunn's room. All watched horror movies in this house. Comedies can not be looked down upon. Something about SA - that fits the profile and doesn't care that he acts that slasher part. He did threaten Billie and Hailey before. Not normal, aggressive and obsessed and fits the profile in this case.

Copied because I was to lazy to type it out, but WTH???

Also, I wonder why Nancy didn't even pick up on the tidbit about the prior threats~and at least jinkassauras picked up on the fact the text may not have been sent by Hailey

Do you suppose Billie thought those films were comedies? Did they sit there and watch them and roll with laughter? How desensitized must they be??  ::MonkeyEek::

And you'd let your kids watch them? What kind of nightmare did those poor kids have? ::MonkeyShocked:: I would think subjecting them to those films would be child abuse.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Who knows, I think she has a warped view of the world with everything considered, ie the fact she talks more to her BF when on local TV than Hailey and how she loves him, grrrrr. I am not saying my kids have never seen a horror film, but it wasn't here ( I found out about it later and my daughter never went back). This case reminds me so much of HaLeigh that I swear I am waiting for tattoos , a banner on the truck that reads only Michael Myers can judge me, and a Halloween themed wedding ::MonkeyNoNo::

IslandMonkey, I find it fishy how she didn't show emotion or signs of long nights spend sobbing or worrying when it was just Hailey missing, but when it turns out that she might not be able to "keep" her boyfriend suddenly she looks like she hasn't been sleeping and has been doing a lot of crying.  I think the change is so marked that it means something.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Great observation.....also IIRC most ppl in the beginning were "poor Billie" etc., now she has encountered the scrutiny, but I think you are on the right track sadly...d@mn, I pray I am wrong ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 17, 2011, 11:08:45 PM
Rats! I can't stay awake any longer. The transcript isn't posted and I don't think I will be awake at midnight. I'll record it and see it in the morning. By then I'll probably see how wrong I was. If nobody else caught it, I guess it wasn't there.

Good night ya'll.   (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/bye.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: luvmyboys on January 18, 2011, 12:22:38 AM
The video that ng showed 2nite I saw it last night it is 2 min and a little longer. There was another guy with him. He was smoken and smoken. And doing some weird stuff. I complete idiotic stuff. He's nuts. And it said posted a year ago


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 12:45:28 AM
After watching Nancy second show tonight...I need to share my story. Watching these families it breaks my heart...but me being a victim of kidnapping I understand the pain these kids are going through. I cried during the whole show, and its something I havent done in some time, but it brought back so many scary memories for me! I wouldnt be sitting here today if it wasnt for my neighbor that was 87 years old and never learned how to drive, so she was always home! It was her quick reaction that saved not only me but my sister who was 1 yr older than I was. I had asked my sister to watch me walk back home when 2 men turned in my direction....I ran back to her seeking help (She was only 8), the men were about to get 2 instead of one. The little old lady came out and fired one shot in the air just as they were draggin me into the car. My poor sister was standing so shocked and helpless. I fought hard enough to get away when Mrs Limbo fired her shotgun....MR LIMBO IS MY HERO!

Please everyone hug your kids a little tighter, keep both eyes open and NEVER EVER think this world is safe. Do not ever get comfortable enough to let your kids out of your sight or think you can trust anyone...because I know first hand 26 years ago they were taking kids and today they are getting better at taking kids!

Mods if this is in the wrong thread please let me know.

Just needed to share my story...
Thanks for sharing Turtletop. I can only imagine how hard it has been over the years for you. That Mrs Limbo is my kind of Gal!! You are so right about keeping our eyes open at all times. My hubby used to get irritated with me when I wouldn't allow my 8 year old to go to the playground by himself at the ball park during baseball season. I'd rather be safe than sorry too. Again, thanks for sharing ::MonkeyAngel::
Also Turtle, just wanted to say that I love the picture in your profile. What a beautiful little one! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 12:48:24 AM
I wish there was... man that was not the only time I seen her shoot that gun either! They named the road we lived on after her!

BTW I live in East Texas and I saw way back where you grew up here...this happened in New Summerfield but I grew up in Rusk

small world

I grew up all over the place, but the bulk was east Texas and I went to Bryan HS, and lived in a teeny little town called Hilltop Lakes, so I grew up with guns.....and seeing ppl shoot them often. I live in an area so similar now, everybody knows everybody, and their business, where your kids are, if they smoked a cig while you were at work and more. I rather like it to be honest, of course the man down the street didn't when the enti ::MonkeyDevil::re neighborhood told his wife about his mistress sneaking over when she was out of town
Ewww....Snap!! ROFL ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 12:49:44 AM
I was barely able to stay awake and see Nancy Grace. I was wrong. What Billie said is she found out Hailey had not spent the night with Mary Beth.  I guess it is time to turn in my detective wings.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am Sorry Billie. I owe you an apology.  I misquoted you. Now I really am going to bed.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/paranoid.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 12:57:25 AM
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/17/false-alarm-reported-case-missing-colorado-city-te/

Updated 10:56 p.m.: Bad tip doesn't slow the search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn
Officials say sighting of girl was false alarm


By Celinda Emison

Originally published 12:44 p.m., January 17, 2011
Updated 10:56 p.m., January 17, 2011

What turned out to be a false alarm Monday didn't slow the search for Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn, as investigators and volunteers continued to look for clues into the 13-year-old's disappearance.

"This is predominantly a criminal investigation," said Pete Kampfer, city manager in Colorado City and the liaison between law enforcement and the news media, who added that investigators "have been following up and working on leads."

Hailey was reported missing by her mother, Billie Jean Dunn, on Dec. 28. Last week, Shawn Adkins, the former boyfriend of Billie Jean Dunn, was named a suspect in the case.

On Monday night, YouTube videos allegedly made by Adkins were shown on TV personality Nancy Grace's program on HLN. The videos purportedly show Adkins wearing masks from horror films.

"I knew that he had the masks," Billie Jean Dunn told Grace. "I think he made the videos before we were together."

A possible sighting of Hailey Dunn reported Monday morning was a false alarm, officials with the task force said.

Investigators received a tip that the girl was spotted in a pickup on Highway 208 near Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City.

"They checked out a possible sighting, but there was no substance to it," Kampfer said.

Although Adkins has hired an attorney, Billie Jean Dunn repeatedly has said she has not hired legal counsel.

John Young, a criminal defense attorney based in Sweetwater, said he was contacted by Adkins' family but has not been hired to represent him.

"With all the vitriolic comments coming from residents in Colorado City, who in their right mind would not get a lawyer to help them navigate through this difficult set of circumstances?" Young said. "I cannot believe Ms. Dunn has not hired an attorney, and she continues to move forward in this investigation at great peril to herself."

Adkins has declined to comment on the case and calls to his attorney, Sidney Lyle of Odessa, have not been returned.

Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, said he is exploring leads and has traveled to Midland and Odessa twice in the past week to pass out fliers and follow up on tips that the teen was sighted in the Midland-Odessa area.

"It turned out that the girl that was sighted was older than Hailey," he told Nancy Grace on Monday night.

But Dunn said he has received dozens of calls from folks willing to offer assistance.

"We have had two private investigators volunteer to help," he said.

He said he has plans to take the search to El Paso and to pass out fliers in Spanish.

"We are just trying to look under some rocks and tear up some road," Clint Dunn said.

Kampfer said investigators continue to work on leads in the case and have been searching in Mitchell, Howard, Nolan and Scurry counties.

Meanwhile, members of Hailey's Angels — a search team with volunteers from all over the state — continued their search Monday on County Road 218 in northern Mitchell County near its border with Scurry County.

Jim Baum, former Colorado City mayor and owner of radio station KAUM, said he has received calls from several individuals claiming to be psychics.

"One called and said Hailey could be found in the lake," Baum said.

So far, investigators have not searched bodies of water, such as Lake Colorado City. Kampfer said no leads have been received that warrant dragging the lake.

The Taylor County Sheriff's Posse combed several areas in south Scurry County on Sunday but turned up nothing.

On Friday, the Allied Waste Services landfill in Abilene was searched by investigators from the Abilene Police Department. Task force officials said the search at the landfill was concluded Friday.

"We have not confirmed any hits at the landfill," Kampfer said.





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 18, 2011, 01:20:42 AM
Grace Airs Videos of Adkins Allegedly Holding Knives, Smoking Pot

The entire nation got a look at the videos and images posted on bigcountryhomepage.com last week that believe to show Shawn Adkins dressed in costume while holding knives and using illegal drugs. Nancy Grace broadcast the videos during Monday's show on HLN.
Adkins is the boyfriend of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's mother. He is the only person named as a suspect in the case.

"I think that was from before we got together," mother Billie Dunn said in response to the videos. "I did see some online and it's not good"

Grace showed the videos over and over again and asked her "unleash the lawyers" panel what the images could mean if it was one of their clients. The attorneys said while the videos and pictures didn't look good, they aren't necessarily admissible in court.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332277

Late night, my daughter & everyone after a great first night of the week they are down are fast asleep so Im reading back.  She is lying thru her teeth, she knew about those pics & much more.  She's been dating him over 2 years according to her.  Also, I did happen to catch a bit of Nancy here there tonight & Billie is lying her face off.   She contradicted herself from the point she found out that Hailey was missing & the steps she took thereafter.  If Im still up after a long day I might watch the repeat in full but she definitely changed her story tonight.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on January 18, 2011, 01:27:49 AM
Unbelieveable how many lies Billie Jo tells !
Does she not think we are listening and
adding it up ?

One thing I do know 4 sure is that the
"monkeys" here care more about
a child they never met than her Mama ! ::MonkeyMad::

Geez I get so angry with these "Mothers ?"
Dogs here in Ohio have to be licensed by
the owner. They need to precertify parents
in some education classes and sterilize the ones who don't pass !LOL ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 18, 2011, 01:30:58 AM
Thanks. I'll look for both. I'm probably wrong. I'm doubting myself. Someone may need to take my computer away from me. I've already hidden my drivers license.   (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-scared004.gif)

You are too cute!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 02:24:09 AM
Quote
Quote by Island: Rut ~Ro......Mz Nancy has found the vid's that our very own Monkey's teen found, again Cartfly tell him he made the news (in a backwards sort of way).

Island- we watched some of it together. He asked why Scared Monkeys wasn't mentioned on NG. I explained to him when I posted right before 10 that night, that anyone can read here and they took it over to facebook 2 hours after where it spread like wildfire.
The more exposure of what Shawn really is, the better, IMO. I am glad it spread over there to facebook since it angered allot of locals and it puts more pressure on SA. Besides, "Sparky" looked like he needed a clue. ::MonkeyHaHa::

(Apparently, Billie is still on the fence about her "Angel Shawn"......pfttt) ::MonkeyJnBox::)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 18, 2011, 03:20:49 AM
So, NG is on a different time. Oh well.
..
TY IM for the text information.
..
LE would be crazy to share ANY of their info with Billie, like as if it wouldn't get right to Shawn in some manner. Her friend was on WS saying that there is a Billie in Shawn's family. Maybe there is a mix up. Snort. This friend of hers hardly saw Billie the past few years, mostly she saw her when Clint / Billie were together as her hubs worked with Clint. Most of the contact has been by phone until this. Their kids used to do sleepovers at each other's houses, but not since the break up of Billie / Clint. People change.
Anyway, I will stay tuned. The more Billie talks, the deeper it gets. 

If Nancy would just shut up and let her talk and quit interrupting her, we'd know a lot more. I was waiting for Clint to backhand Billie tonight. I can't stand for a man to hit a woman, but tonight I think I would give him a pass.
............
Good one.
I am waiting for the sighting in Puerto Rico.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 03:42:05 AM



Shawn Adkins Posts Messages on "Myspace"


Reported by: Cody McDonell & Lane Stone
Monday, January 17 2011

Billie Dunn's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, is the only person named a suspect in Hailey's disappearance.

Adkins said at the beginning of the investigation he is innocent but we haven't heard much from him since.

He is talking about the disappearance on "Myspace". A few days ago he wrote an update that seems to be a message for Billie.

It says there is nothing more than I want than to be there for you... Don't lose hope, I love you Hailey and David.

Adkins also posted pictures of himself with Billie and Hailey that appear to be taken on Christmas day.

Adkins spoke to KTAB right after Hailey disappeared, but hasn't done any more interviews on the advice of his attorney.

Click below for continuing coverage of the search for Hailey Dunn and to see an interview with a local defense attorney about the case and why Adkins may be staying silent.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332366  (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332366)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 18, 2011, 05:20:18 AM
NG: background of slasher films - in Hailey Dunn's room. All watched horror movies in this house. Comedies can not be looked down upon. Something about SA - that fits the profile and doesn't care that he acts that slasher part. He did threaten Billie and Hailey before. Not normal, aggressive and obsessed and fits the profile in this case.

Copied because I was to lazy to type it out, but WTH???

Also, I wonder why Nancy didn't even pick up on the tidbit about the prior threats~and at least jinkassauras picked up on the fact the text may not have been sent by Hailey

Do you suppose Billie thought those films were comedies? Did they sit there and watch them and roll with laughter? How desensitized must they be??  ::MonkeyEek::

And you'd let your kids watch them? What kind of nightmare did those poor kids have? ::MonkeyShocked:: I would think subjecting them to those films would be child abuse.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Who knows, I think she has a warped view of the world with everything considered, ie the fact she talks more to her BF when on local TV than Hailey and how she loves him, grrrrr. I am not saying my kids have never seen a horror film, but it wasn't here ( I found out about it later and my daughter never went back). This case reminds me so much of HaLeigh that I swear I am waiting for tattoos , a banner on the truck that reads only Michael Myers can judge me, and a Halloween themed wedding ::MonkeyNoNo::

IslandMonkey, I find it fishy how she didn't show emotion or signs of long nights spend sobbing or worrying when it was just Hailey missing, but when it turns out that she might not be able to "keep" her boyfriend suddenly she looks like she hasn't been sleeping and has been doing a lot of crying.  I think the change is so marked that it means something.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: Great observation.....also IIRC most ppl in the beginning were "poor Billie" etc., now she has encountered the scrutiny, but I think you are on the right track sadly...d@mn, I pray I am wrong ::MonkeyNoNo::

I never got the "poor Billie" feeling. She looked kinda DUH to me.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 18, 2011, 05:25:53 AM
Unbelieveable how many lies Billie Jo tells !
Does she not think we are listening and
adding it up ?

One thing I do know 4 sure is that the
"monkeys" here care more about
a child they never met than her Mama ! ::MonkeyMad::

Geez I get so angry with these "Mothers ?"
Dogs here in Ohio have to be licensed by
the owner. They need to precertify parents
in some education classes and sterilize the ones who don't pass !LOL ::MonkeyMad::
  Dog liscensed in Ohio. They gave you the paperwork when you had the shots. Not so in other states, at least not in Ca. They thought i was coo coo  ::MonkeyTongue::when i questioned if the vacination was sent to locals


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 18, 2011, 05:27:29 AM
 Dadgumit, that did not post right.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 18, 2011, 08:14:54 AM
Grace Airs Videos of Adkins Allegedly Holding Knives, Smoking Pot

The entire nation got a look at the videos and images posted on bigcountryhomepage.com last week that believe to show Shawn Adkins dressed in costume while holding knives and using illegal drugs. Nancy Grace broadcast the videos during Monday's show on HLN.
Adkins is the boyfriend of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's mother. He is the only person named as a suspect in the case.

"I think that was from before we got together," mother Billie Dunn said in response to the videos. "I did see some online and it's not good"

Grace showed the videos over and over again and asked her "unleash the lawyers" panel what the images could mean if it was one of their clients. The attorneys said while the videos and pictures didn't look good, they aren't necessarily admissible in court.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332277

Late night, my daughter & everyone after a great first night of the week they are down are fast asleep so Im reading back.  She is lying thru her teeth, she knew about those pics & much more.  She's been dating him over 2 years according to her.  Also, I did happen to catch a bit of Nancy here there tonight & Billie is lying her face off.   She contradicted herself from the point she found out that Hailey was missing & the steps she took thereafter.  If Im still up after a long day I might watch the repeat in full but she definitely changed her story tonight.
I have to agree with you and add that a nitwit like SA is so childishly proud of his penchant for horror/slasher movies that there is no way he wouldn't show BD and everyone else the sites he posts on, the masks he acquired, his home made movies with his cousin, etc..  He's an idiot and I bet BD fed into his love of gore. I bet before he came along she never, ever head of the music she is listening to now!  I bet she thinks he is God and the sun rises and sets with his words!  In her mind she has landed her a young hottie and he's nothing more than a crazy, overgrown kid and it keeps BD feeling really young and hip and all it really has done is make her look a fool and like her children were pushed aside for him and his needs.  Can't stand a weak woman like that!  Wake up BD, you let this arsehole in your home and put your child in danger!  Even if he didn't do anything he already threatened you and your daughter so why call the cops and still stay with him?  You are one mixed up, low self esteem nut.  I do pray for you and your family as I wouldn't want anyone to lose a child.  But I think she brought this one on herself!  All stated above is MOO.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: theboyzmom on January 18, 2011, 08:35:09 AM
Nancy Grace Time!!

Janet
7:00 PM PT

Joy Behar is on my HLN right now. Nancy Grace is back on at midnight here.

I know - I was pissed - looks like they moved NG to midnight - I have my life planned. NG when I go to bed at ten - the nerve.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 08:51:19 AM
Nancy Grace Time!!

Janet
7:00 PM PT

Joy Behar is on my HLN right now. Nancy Grace is back on at midnight here.

I know - I was pissed - looks like they moved NG to midnight - I have my life planned. NG when I go to bed at ten - the nerve.

I know right?
 could always tune in for the later show..midnight is way too late for me...
NG show continued after her 7 PM show last night..they were talking about Lindsey Baum..glad that NG is going back and putting up other missing children..keeping their names out there till they are found..
but it totally threw me off when NG was on again..is that the new lineup now I wonder..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
Grace Airs Videos of Adkins Allegedly Holding Knives, Smoking Pot

The entire nation got a look at the videos and images posted on bigcountryhomepage.com last week that believe to show Shawn Adkins dressed in costume while holding knives and using illegal drugs. Nancy Grace broadcast the videos during Monday's show on HLN.
Adkins is the boyfriend of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's mother. He is the only person named as a suspect in the case.

"I think that was from before we got together," mother Billie Dunn said in response to the videos. "I did see some online and it's not good"

Grace showed the videos over and over again and asked her "unleash the lawyers" panel what the images could mean if it was one of their clients. The attorneys said while the videos and pictures didn't look good, they aren't necessarily admissible in court.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332277

Late night, my daughter & everyone after a great first night of the week they are down are fast asleep so Im reading back.  She is lying thru her teeth, she knew about those pics & much more.  She's been dating him over 2 years according to her.  Also, I did happen to catch a bit of Nancy here there tonight & Billie is lying her face off.   She contradicted herself from the point she found out that Hailey was missing & the steps she took thereafter.  If Im still up after a long day I might watch the repeat in full but she definitely changed her story tonight.
I have to agree with you and add that a nitwit like SA is so childishly proud of his penchant for horror/slasher movies that there is no way he wouldn't show BD and everyone else the sites he posts on, the masks he acquired, his home made movies with his cousin, etc..  He's an idiot and I bet BD fed into his love of gore. I bet before he came along she never, ever head of the music she is listening to now!  I bet she thinks he is God and the sun rises and sets with his words!  In her mind she has landed her a young hottie and he's nothing more than a crazy, overgrown kid and it keeps BD feeling really young and hip and all it really has done is make her look a fool and like her children were pushed aside for him and his needs.  Can't stand a weak woman like that!  Wake up BD, you let this arsehole in your home and put your child in danger!  Even if he didn't do anything he already threatened you and your daughter so why call the cops and still stay with him?  You are one mixed up, low self esteem nut.  I do pray for you and your family as I wouldn't want anyone to lose a child.  But I think she brought this one on herself!  All stated above is MOO.

 I agree with your post. There is no way Shawn didn't show Billie those videos and more. It was a point of pride with him. Did you see his post about his mask after Hailey went missing. Who does that? It is an obsession with him. I have no idea how much a mask like that costs, but I would expect quite a bit. His truck doesn't run, and I suspect he uses Billie's vehicle, but he's got a mask and all the regalia that goes along with it. And, oh yeah, money to buy drugs on the night Hailey is missing. I woke up cranky this morning. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-morning-coffee-1.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Turtletop17 on January 18, 2011, 08:54:30 AM
Thank you all for hearing my story. Its very hard for me to talk about it because I know how close I was to god only knows what! But God had his arms around me that day.

I am 32 years old now and I have never had a dream about what happened to me since I have became an adult. After it happened I never walked alone again, stayed home alone, or wandered to far out of my moms sight. But last night I relived the nightmare in a dream. It was so real and I woke up shaking and fighting back the tears. I know I am ok, but all these innocent children have a sense of security that is false. OUR KIDS ARE NOT SAFE!

I want to scream that from the mountain tops.....I want every parent to be as scared as I am!!!!!



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 08:54:35 AM
snipped  melisb post...::

I have to agree with you and add that a nitwit like SA is so childishly proud of his penchant for horror/slasher movies that there is no way he wouldn't show BD and everyone else the sites he posts on, the masks he acquired, his home made movies with his cousin, etc..  He's an idiot and I bet BD fed into his love of gore. I bet before he came along she never, ever head of the music she is listening to now!  I bet she thinks he is God and the sun rises and sets with his words!  In her mind she has landed her a young hottie and he's nothing more than a crazy, overgrown kid and it keeps BD feeling really young and hip and all it really has done is make her look a fool and like her children were pushed aside for him and his needs.  Can't stand a weak woman like that!  Wake up BD, you let this arsehole in your home and put your child in danger!  Even if he didn't do anything he already threatened you and your daughter so why call the cops and still stay with him?  You are one mixed up, low self esteem nut.  I do pray for you and your family as I wouldn't want anyone to lose a child.  But I think she brought this one on herself!  All stated above is MOO.


Yep..have to agree with you that Billie probably turned to some really questionable things once she got involved with SA just to keep him..a lot of women do that once they snag a man..sad to see really and sometimes I am embarrassed for them..see it all the time..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 08:57:32 AM
Thank you all for hearing my story. Its very hard for me to talk about it because I know how close I was to god only knows what! But God had his arms around me that day.

I am 32 years old now and I have never had a dream about what happened to me since I have became an adult. After it happened I never walked alone again, stayed home alone, or wandered to far out of my moms sight. But last night I relived the nightmare in a dream. It was so real and I woke up shaking and fighting back the tears. I know I am ok, but all these innocent children have a sense of security that is false. OUR KIDS ARE NOT SAFE!

I want to scream that from the mountain tops.....I want every parent to be as scared as I am!!!!!



thanks for sharing..
thank God you were saved by your neighbor...what she did is something that I feel any one of us monkeys would have done to save a child..We would not just sit back and allow a child to be hurt or taken...Monkeys Rock!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 18, 2011, 09:20:56 AM



Shawn Adkins Posts Messages on "Myspace"


Reported by: Cody McDonell & Lane Stone
Monday, January 17 2011

Billie Dunn's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, is the only person named a suspect in Hailey's disappearance.

Adkins said at the beginning of the investigation he is innocent but we haven't heard much from him since.

He is talking about the disappearance on "Myspace". A few days ago he wrote an update that seems to be a message for Billie.

It says there is nothing more than I want than to be there for you... Don't lose hope, I love you Hailey and David.

Adkins also posted pictures of himself with Billie and Hailey that appear to be taken on Christmas day.

Adkins spoke to KTAB right after Hailey disappeared, but hasn't done any more interviews on the advice of his attorney.

Click below for continuing coverage of the search for Hailey Dunn and to see an interview with a local defense attorney about the case and why Adkins may be staying silent.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332366  (http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332366)
So what computer is he posting from now? Grandmas?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 18, 2011, 09:49:25 AM
Maybe he's posting from the computer that BD DOESN'T have! lol  These people are full of lies.  I'm just wondering if Mama ain't guilty of a lot more a la EvilE Baker? Not the completely gruesome acts but maybe covering for her loverboy and participating in letting him carry out his horror film fantasy?  If my BF was into horror/slasher and went around quoting American Psycho and I found out he was spying on my daughter I would have a movie playing out in my head!  Was he peeping on her privately acting out a scene from one of his movies or was he into pretty sweet little girls?  I'm thinking movie scene.  You know the typical one...pretty girl in her room dressing, door cracked slightly open, one eyball peeking in, glint of a knife blade, heavy breathing, run of the mill slasher scene.  He loved to act them out...did he do that with HD?  Who is to say he didn't act out his ultimate fantasy.  I'm just feeling a little like a Baker copycat minus all the gore in the home.  Could he have done something with her the night before and the "maybe" sightings didn't happen that day?  Did anyone hear from her that day?  Guess I gotta go look again cause right now I'm thinking no.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 10:03:09 AM
Maybe he's posting from the computer that BD DOESN'T have! lol  These people are full of lies.  I'm just wondering if Mama ain't guilty of a lot more a la EvilE Baker? Not the completely gruesome acts but maybe covering for her loverboy and participating in letting him carry out his horror film fantasy?  If my BF was into horror/slasher and went around quoting American Psycho and I found out he was spying on my daughter I would have a movie playing out in my head!  Was he peeping on her privately acting out a scene from one of his movies or was he into pretty sweet little girls?  I'm thinking movie scene.  You know the typical one...pretty girl in her room dressing, door cracked slightly open, one eyball peeking in, glint of a knife blade, heavy breathing, run of the mill slasher scene.  He loved to act them out...did he do that with HD?  Who is to say he didn't act out his ultimate fantasy.  I'm just feeling a little like a Baker copycat minus all the gore in the home.  Could he have done something with her the night before and the "maybe" sightings didn't happen that day?  Did anyone hear from her that day?  Guess I gotta go look again cause right now I'm thinking no.

bolded by me..
now that is a good question..as we all know, teenagers have their phone up to their ear constantly or they are texting constantly...hmmmm...
I think that SA went home that morning and Hailey was in her bed..no one was home and he molested her and when she threatened to tell, he knew that he had to get rid of her..
Hailey was put in this vulnerable position by her own mother..this child was not safe in her own home..jmo...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 18, 2011, 10:06:03 AM
I looked back at a few of the posted timelines and I don't see contact with anyone except for supposed sightings in town and the lie SA told but I am bringing Janet's theory forward as it kind of fits with what I've said before too.  Don't know if he sexually assualted her as most slasher movie motives aren't sexual, just in it for the act of killing!  I used to be a horror fan too when in jr. high/high school but in no way, shape or form like SA!  Here is her theory:

Tamikosmom's Theory in a Nutshell

December 26, 2010
- Hailey is last seen by David. PM

December 26, 2010 - December 27, 2010
- During the night Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in bed.
- To assure silence Hailey is killed in bed and covered her blanket.

December 27, 2010
- Shawn leave for work. AM
- Billie leaves for work. AM
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure. AM
- Shawn retrieves Hailey's body. AM
- Shawn disposed of Hailey's body somewhere between home and Big Spring. AM
- Shawn spends day with his mother in Big Springs.
- Shawn returns home prior to David's arrival. PM
- Shawn picks Billie up from work. PM 




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 10:08:12 AM
I looked back at a few of the posted timelines and I don't see contact with anyone except for supposed sightings in town and the lie SA told but I am bringing Janet's theory forward as it kind of fits with what I've said before too.  Don't know if he sexually assualted her as most slasher movie motives aren't sexual, just in it for the act of killing!  I used to be a horror fan too when in jr. high/high school but in no way, shape or form like SA!  Here is her theory:

Tamikosmom's Theory in a Nutshell

December 26, 2010
- Hailey is last seen by David. PM

December 26, 2010 - December 27, 2010
- During the night Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in bed.
- To assure silence Hailey is killed in bed and covered her blanket.

December 27, 2010
- Shawn leave for work. AM
- Billie leaves for work. AM
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure. AM
- Shawn retrieves Hailey's body. AM
- Shawn disposed of Hailey's body somewhere between home and Big Spring. AM
- Shawn spends day with his mother in Big Springs.
- Shawn returns home prior to David's arrival. PM
- Shawn picks Billie up from work. PM 




yep..Janet's theory works..could very well be what happened to this child..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 18, 2011, 10:13:38 AM
Have a great day all, gotta go to work!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 10:24:30 AM
Janet's theory works for me too. I think Billie was so out of it when they brought home the new supply of drugs she probably didn't hear a thing. I still think she knew things after the fact, before Shawn moved out.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 10:57:54 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/13/authorities-step-search-missing-texas-cheerleader/?test=latestnews

(http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/397/224/Hailey.JPG)

Authorities Step Up Search for Missing Texas Cheerleader

Published January 18, 2011 | FoxNews.com


Authorities are stepping up efforts to find a missing 13-year-old Texas cheerleader after the latest search of a landfill produced no evidence in the disappearance.

Hailey Darlene Dunn was reported missing by her mother Dec. 28 in Colorado City, a 4,500-resident town about 240 miles west of Dallas.

Hailey, a student and cheerleader at Colorado City Middle School, was thought to be spending the night at a nearby friend's home, but was reported missing the next day when she did not return home.

Investigators on Friday used cadaver dogs to search a landfill in Abilene but turned up no sign of Hailey. Since then, scores of law enforcement officials and volunteers have been searching for the girl, plastering posters with her photo all over town and tying orange ribbons around trees and car antennas.

Authorities have said that her mother's live-in boyfriend, Shawn Casey Adkins, is among several "persons of interest" in the case.

According to a police affidavit filed in the investigation, Adkins remarked to a relative that hurting a teenager would be "like killing a deer."

The affidavit, which seeks phone records of Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, and Adkins, also notes that the couple had an apparent fixation on slasher movies and serial killers -- something Dunn called a "hobby."

Peter Kampfer, the city manager, told FoxNews.com on Thursday that the information in the affidavit would suggest that Adkins is a suspect in the case, but the investigation is ongoing.

"There are a lot of suspects in the case," said Kampfer.

The affidavit shows that an uncle of Hailey's told police that after the girl vanished he asked Adkins how anyone could hurt a teenager. Adkins reportedly responded, "It’s like killing a deer."

The affidavit also notes that in February 2010, police responded to a domestic violence call at the house. Adkins allegedly threatened to kill Billie and Hailey Dunn during a heated argument. After telling police he never issued these threats, he later allegedly confessed to police that he threatened the two.




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 11:18:27 AM
<snipped>
Adkins has declined to comment on the case and calls to his attorney, Sidney Lyle of Odessa, have not been returned.   ::MonkeyCool::

Worst excuse ever for a lawyer needs to be disembarred
I do not recommend Sidney Lyle.
I used Sidney 1-3 years ago.
Sidney handled my Criminal Defense matter.
I have previously worked with 1-2 lawyers.

Client Review:
My family paid this guy to represent us an a civil case. Not only did he lie to us about ever filing any paperwork with the court but he had a default judgement brought against us which costed us the ENTIRE case, about 90,000 dollars, then he disappears with know way to reach him. If you would like to be screwed over then by all means hire sidney lyle of odessa tx.

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/79762-tx-sidney-lyle-101056/reviews.html#50121


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 11:22:45 AM
UPDATE: Advocate Group KlaasKids Arrives in Colorado City

Brad Dennis, the Director of Search Operations for KlaasKids Foundation’s National Search Center for Missing Children, tells bigcountryhomepage.com he has arrived in Colorado City.
Dennis says he'll be meeting with law enforcement throughout the day as well as Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn.

Dennis says he hopes to formulate a plan for how his group can assist in the search by the end of the day.

At this point, Dennis is the only KlaasKids representative in town. He says additional people from the group will fly as early as tonight, if needed.

MORE....

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332126


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 11:24:28 AM
UPDATE: Possible Text from Hailey Being 'Held Close'

Tuesday, 9 a.m.
Investigators are not saying either way whether there was a text message sent from Hailey Dunn on Dec. 27, the day she disappeared.

Hailey's mom, Billie Dunn, told a Nancy Grace show producer that investigators informed her Hailey may have sent a text message to a friend at 2 p.m. on the 27th that allegedly said, "what are you doing?"

No information will be released about any text message, Pete Kampfer, spokesperson for the Colorado City Police Department said.  Any information in that respect will be "held close to the investigation," he said.


MORE...

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332277


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 11:25:14 AM
Slideshow: Images of Hailey Dunn

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332286


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 11:45:30 AM
Tamikosmom's Theory in a Nutshell

December 26, 2010
- Hailey is last seen by David. PM

December 26, 2010 - December 27, 2010
- During the night Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in her bed.
- To assure silence Hailey is killed in her bed and covered with her blanket.

December 27, 2010
- Shawn leaves for work. AM
- Billie leaves for work. AM
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure. AM
- Shawn retrieves Hailey's body. AM
- Shawn disposes of Hailey's body somewhere between home and Big Spring. AM
- Shawn spends day with his mother in Big Springs.
- Shawn returns home prior to David's arrival. PM
- Shawn picks Billie up from work. PM  

Lies are created in attempts to cover up truths.  What truths are Shawn attempting to cover up?

1.  Why did Shawn lie about the reason he left work shortly after he arrived?
2.  Why did Shawn lie about going directly to his mother's home in Big Springs?


1.  If Hailey left her home alive ... why was her jacket left behind?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 12:10:54 PM
I suspect that Hailey was not seen or heard from anybody on December 27, 2010.

Could it be that Shawn sent the short 2:00 PM text message to Mary Beth in an attempt to compromise the timeline?

Could it be that the two neighbor witnesses were mistaken or they just wanted to insert themselves in the case?

Last night Nancy Grace queried both Clint and Billie on this issue.

Janet

++++

Text Message?

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: To Alexis Weed, our producer on the story, joining us out of New York. Alexis, weigh in. What do you know?

ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Nancy, we`re getting a little bit more information on what could be the timeline that has to do with Monday December 27th, the day in question. We`re finding out today from Billie Dunn, that perhaps there was a text message, she`s hearing from police, a text message was sent from her phone, that`s the phone that Hailey would use, she used her mother`s phone, sent at 2:00 in the afternoon, to the friend where she was supposedly going according to Shawn Adkins to the friend`s house, however, there was no response to that text. The text said just what are you doing to the friend.

GRACE: Now Billie Dunn, explain to me the significance of that?

B. DUNN: With Shawn getting the cell phone pings coming back to Colorado City that morning, I want to know who she talked to on the phone, it`s very important to me if she was on that phone and they`re not saying that anybody is an accountable witness it seems that has seen her on Monday. So I want to know who called my cell phone that morning and that afternoon, and who she called, and those are answers that I know they have, that they still haven`t gotten back with me on.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html
 

Hailey Sightings?

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE:  To Clint Dunn, well, to both of you, I want to find out about this neighbor that you have said places her alive in the backyard at 12:00 noon the day she goes missing, this is the Monday after Christmas on Saturday.

Police keep telling us, they can`t confirm that anybody saw her alive at noon, which really changes the timeline, Billie and Clint Dunn, because think about it, that puts her seen by someone outside of you and Shawn Adkins, back until 9:00 the night before, when your 16-year-old son saw her playing on Xbox, all right?

After that, nobody saw her. That was it. That ruins the police time line. So help me out, how can we locate this person that claims they saw her at 12:00 noon on the Monday where she goes missing? First to you Clint Dunn?

C. DUNN: He did live next door, I believe he moved out. I don`t know his name or anything.

GRACE: Do you know where he went?

C. DUNN: No, I don`t.

GRACE: Do you know who would know?

C. DUNN: Well, the police would know.

GRACE: How about the people --

C. DUNN: And also --

GRACE: Go ahead, Billie.

B. DUNN: Yeah, the guy who owns it, Travis, he knows where Dennis went, the guy who saw her. But there`s also another lady, Jean Burris (ph), a neighbor of ours, whose grandchildren grew up with our kids. She says she saw her Monday, she said she told the FBI that twice. She saw her Monday between 10:30 and 12:00. She knows it was Monday because she doesn`t do hair on Sunday. She knows it was that day. She knows Hailey. And I believe Jillian spoke with her also, but police aren`t telling me that.

GRACE: We did talk to her, this is the hairstylist. Did she see her out the window or did her children see Hailey or both?

B. DUNN: She saw Hailey out the window.

GRACE: Right. Now she places her between 10:30 and 12:00, where was Hailey?

B. DUNN: Just cutting across her yard.

GRACE: Across her yard going to where?

B. DUNN: Possibly toward the dollar store that she walked to, but she lives catty corner from me. My backyard catty corners to her backyard.

GRACE: now you said she was on her way to the dollar store, did she ever make it to the dollar store? Do we know?

B. DUNN: No, they say the only video footage they have of her in the dollar store was Sunday.

GRACE: OK, that`s odd, because they do have video of her on Sunday. Is there anyway Jean was mistaken and saw her on Sunday?

B. DUNN: Several people tell me if Jean says she saw her Monday then she definitely saw her Monday. And again, she didn`t do hair on Sunday and she had just gotten finished doing somebody`s hair.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 12:30:38 PM
New agency assists in Hailey Dunn case

More help is coming in as the search for thirteen-year-old Hailey Dunn continues.
A member of the KlaasKids Foundation, Brad Dennis, was scheduled to come to Colorado City on Monday evening after being contacted by Hailey's family to assist local investigative efforts. According to the KlaasKids Foundation website, Dennis has led numerous search and rescue efforts with over 20 years experience, has taught thousands in seminars, and has completed various courses in law enforcement tactics.
The KlaasKids Foundation was founded in 1994 by Marc Klaas in an effort to raise awareness of child abduction and murder after his own twelve-year-old daughter, Polly Klaas, was taken and killed.
As noted on the KlaasKids website, "the Foundation's mission is to stop crimes against children...by distilling the best knowledge and information through a societal approach that extends from the President’s Cabinet Table to the family’s kitchen table."
Also reported on Monday was a possible sighting of Hailey, which ended up being confirmed by investigators as a false alarm. A tip had been received that Hailey had been seen in a pickup near the city of Dunn on Highway 208.
Even though the sighting was a false alarm, the search efforts still are not slowing down. Colorado City city manager Pete Kampfer has reiterated that law enforcement officials are still following leads during this criminal investigation.
Hailey was last seen on December 27th by her mother's former boyfriend, Shawn Adkins. Hailey's mother, Billie Jean Dunn, reported Hailey missing on the next day, December 28th. Hailey is 5'1" and 120 pounds, and has hazel eyes and brown hair with blondish streaks.
Anyone with information on Hailey's whereabouts are asked to contact the Colorado City Police Department at 325-728-5294 or 1-800-THE-LOST (1-800-843-5678).

http://www.sweetwaterreporter.com/content/new-agency-assists-hailey-dunn-case


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
Hailey Dunn Update: Texas Town Holds on to Hope for Missing Teen's Safe Return

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028729-504083.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 01:00:05 PM
Hailey was at risk.  Why did Billie not get it?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

++++++

Shawn Threatened Hailey

Authorities Step Up Search for Missing Texas Cheerleader
Published January 18, 2011


The affidavit also notes that in February 2010, police responded to a domestic violence call at the house. Adkins allegedly threatened to kill Billie and Hailey Dunn during a heated argument. After telling police he never issued these threats, he later allegedly confessed to police that he threatened the two.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/13/authorities-step-search-missing-texas-cheerleader/?test=latestnews


Shawn Frightened Hailey

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said that he`d go in the bathroom and he`d use Billie`s phone and talk to people and then come out and just stand by her door. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 01:29:06 PM
Maybe he's posting from the computer that BD DOESN'T have! lol  These people are full of lies.  I'm just wondering if Mama ain't guilty of a lot more a la EvilE Baker? Not the completely gruesome acts but maybe covering for her loverboy and participating in letting him carry out his horror film fantasy?  If my BF was into horror/slasher and went around quoting American Psycho and I found out he was spying on my daughter I would have a movie playing out in my head!  Was he peeping on her privately acting out a scene from one of his movies or was he into pretty sweet little girls?  I'm thinking movie scene.  You know the typical one...pretty girl in her room dressing, door cracked slightly open, one eyball peeking in, glint of a knife blade, heavy breathing, run of the mill slasher scene.  He loved to act them out...did he do that with HD?  Who is to say he didn't act out his ultimate fantasy.  I'm just feeling a little like a Baker copycat minus all the gore in the home.  Could he have done something with her the night before and the "maybe" sightings didn't happen that day?  Did anyone hear from her that day?  Guess I gotta go look again cause right now I'm thinking no.
My imagination is probably a little overactive but I thought that too (just for a second though because it is something that scares me to the core) that he may have acted out a "horror fantasy". I use to like scary movies when I was back in high school too. But after 9/11 and having kids, it is one of the last types of movies I choose to watch. There are too many real life horrors we read about everyday that I have no real desire to even view that stuff.

As far as SA, I know being a horror fan doesn't make him a killer. But with everything else we know and have seen now, I strongly feel he had everything to do with what happened to that beautiful little girl. I fear that if he is responsible, that she may never be found. I think he is a spoiled, lazy punk mamma's boy. Even though this whole thing is tearing his family apart and dragging some through the mud, I think he is just too selfish and egotistical to confess.
And the one other thing I can't get out of my mind is that "evil smirk" he had when he first appeared with Billie on NG. It really gave me the chills.

I also thought of something my husband said recently. He said his company (an oilfield co.) does frequent drug testing and if anyone tested positive they were terminated. He also said the oil company would be liable if one of their employees were under the influence and did something on the job that injured or killed someone.  I wonder if Weaver Svcs tested employees often and if ole' Shawn was ever tested.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 01:43:21 PM
Colorado City Will Add Two Officers To Search For Missing GirlBy Laura Madison, KTXS News

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Colorado City will add two police officers to their force to help search for missing teen Hailey Dunn.

KTXS News has talked with Pete Kampfer, the city manager of Colorado City, says ads will go out today to advertise hiring two new officers.

Three weeks in to the search for the missing eighth-grader, Kampfer says many of the people who have volunteered to search have had to go back to their normal lives, but efforts need to continue to find Hailey.

In other developments, Brad Dennis, the Director of Search Operations for KlaasKids, an organization that searches for missing kids, says he's organizing a search party that will be headquartered at the Abilene Civic Center Wednesday.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26529027/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 02:00:51 PM
O/T a briefcase with bloody clothes was found this morning off Christie Road where Zahra's prosthetic cover was found before.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 02:01:34 PM
KlaasKids Foundation to join search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn
By Greg Kendall-Ball
Published Tuesday, January 18, 2011


The KlaasKids Foundation, an organization started by Marc Klaas in 1994 after the abduction and murder of his daughter Polly, will be joining the effort to find missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn.

Brad Dennis, director of search operations for the foundation, was scheduled to arrive in Colorado City on Monday night.

Talking by phone from Midland, Dennis said the organization had been contacted by Hailey Dunn’s family and was joining the search in cooperation with local law enforcement agencies.

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/klaaskids-foundation-join-search-missing-colorado/



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 02:06:47 PM
O/T a briefcase with bloody clothes was found this morning off Christie Road where Zahra's prosthetic cover was found before.

Thanks, NORTHERN.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 02:22:40 PM
Colorado City Will Add Two Officers To Search For Missing GirlBy Laura Madison, KTXS News

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Colorado City will add two police officers to their force to help search for missing teen Hailey Dunn.

KTXS News has talked with Pete Kampfer, the city manager of Colorado City, says ads will go out today to advertise hiring two new officers.

Three weeks in to the search for the missing eighth-grader, Kampfer says many of the people who have volunteered to search have had to go back to their normal lives, but efforts need to continue to find Hailey.

In other developments, Brad Dennis, the Director of Search Operations for KlaasKids, an organization that searches for missing kids, says he's organizing a search party that will be headquartered at the Abilene Civic Center Wednesday.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26529027/detail.html

Does any one know how many police officer the Colorado City PD has? I looked on their municipal site, and I didn't see a number.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 02:36:58 PM
Have we ever seen Police Chief John Blivens? Is he a real person?  ::MonkeyRoll:: Matter of fact, have we ever seen any of the PD? I think I remember seeing a couple of plain clothes officers going door to door, and maybe some deputies. Mostly I have just seen civilians searching.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cw618 on January 18, 2011, 02:54:50 PM
just now looking at this,the moms bf prob, had something to do with her missing
i dont know the dads,or the friends addys, so i didnt plot them,just the neighborhood
prison, when an inmate is free to go,IE time served,the inmate just walks out the
gate and gone, most have a ride some dont, i didnt check the RSO for her town,conty
Colorado City tx, Mitchell county

WALLACE (WL)
Correctional Institutions Division -
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/unitdirectory/wl.htm

map prison to Hailey Dunn is 1 mile
 http://tinyurl.com/5vx3xur

2 guys that broke parole,didnt check where they are from, they are RSO
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/wanted/Comcheat/Comcheat.html
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/wanted/Allums.html
link to them
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 03:07:04 PM
just now looking at this,the moms bf prob, had something to do with her missing
i dont know the dads,or the friends addys, so i didnt plot them,just the neighborhood
prison, when an inmate is free to go,IE time served,the inmate just walks out the
gate and gone, most have a ride some dont, i didnt check the RSO for her town,conty
Colorado City tx, Mitchell county

WALLACE (WL)
Correctional Institutions Division -
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/unitdirectory/wl.htm

map prison to Hailey Dunn is 1 mile
 http://tinyurl.com/5vx3xur

2 guys that broke parole,didnt check where they are from, they are RSO
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/wanted/Comcheat/Comcheat.html
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/wanted/Allums.html
link to them
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/

I didn't realize there was a prison facility in Colorado City.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 03:38:57 PM
Landfill search yields clues in missing teen case

LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) - A spokesman for the investigation into a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl says dogs searching 1 of 3 landfills turned up evidence in the case even as hope remains for her safe return.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday on what was found or why the landfill in Abilene was searched in the disappearance of Hailey Darlene Dunn.
Abilene is 70 miles east of Colorado City, where the girl went missing last month.

Kampfer says searchers also used cadaver dogs in the Colorado City and Snyder landfills.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn. The woman's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier.

No one has been arrested. Adkins has been named a person of interest in the case.

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=13863385


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 03:40:41 PM
Landfill search yields clues in missing teen case

LUBBOCK, Texas — A spokesman for the investigation into a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl says dogs searching one of three landfills turned up evidence in the case even as hope remains for her safe return.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday on what was found or why the landfill in Abilene was searched in the disappearance of Hailey Darlene Dunn.

Abilene is 70 miles east of Colorado City, where the girl went missing last month.

Kampfer says searchers also used cadaver dogs in the Colorado City and Snyder landfills.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn. The woman's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier.

No one has been arrested. Adkins has been named a person of interest in the case

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/7386631.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 03:49:39 PM
Attorney Says Adkins Smart For Getting "Lawyered Up"

Noted Abilene defense attorney John Young tells KTAB News that Shawn Adkins did the right thing by hiring a lawyer now that he's been named a suspect in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
In fact, Adkins began to mention an attorney just days after reportedly failing a polygraph exam on Wednesday, January 5.

Young has defended numerous high-profile suspects in some of Abilene's biggest cases.

"This biggest question is not why he hired a lawyer," said Young. "The biggest question is why he didn't hired a lawyer more quickly."

Young says the seriousness of the offense in this case creates so much uncertainty. He notes that it's very difficult for someone who is unfamiliar with law enforcement practices to know what to do in a case like this.

On the issue of failed polygraph exams, Young said the results probably don't mean much.

"Polygraphs are really tools to sort of narrow down an investigation," said Young. "I'm not really sure you can put a whole lot behind the idea that someone failed or was told that they failed."

Young made it clear polygraph results are not admissible in court.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332256


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 03:50:53 PM
Search Of Landfills Did Turn Up Some Evidence In Hailey Dunn Disappearance

LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) -- A spokesman for the investigation into a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl says dogs searching one of three landfills turned up evidence in the case even as hope remains for her safe return.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday on what was found or why the landfill in Abilene was searched in the disappearance of Hailey Darlene Dunn.

Abilene is 70 miles east of Colorado City, where the girl went missing last month.

Kampfer says searchers also used cadaver dogs in the Colorado City and Snyder landfills.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn. The woman's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier.

No one has been arrested. Adkins has been named a person of interest in the case.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26530508/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
I don't even want to think about why there would be evidence in more than one landfill.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 04:07:33 PM
I don't even want to think about why there would be evidence in more than one landfill.  ::MonkeyShocked::

oh geez...I never thought of that! ::MonkeyShocked::

whatever happened to not getting an attorney cause you are innocent and have nothing to hide?? times have changed I guess...Billie probably needs to get lawyered up too...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 04:15:36 PM
On the morning of December 27th ... Shawn left his place of employment and returned home prior to driving to his the home of his mother who resides in Big Springs. 

Considering Shawn lied regarding the reason behind his sudden departure from work on the morning of December 27t and ... considering Shawn lied in regards to driving directly to Big Springs ... I contend that the search for Hailey Dunn should be focused between Colorado City and Big Springs.

Have any suspicious cell phone pings from that route on the morning of December 27th been revealed?

Janet

+++++


DECEMBER 27, 2010

1.  Shawn and Billie leave home for their respective places of employment.


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


DUNN: No, I`m the secretary up there at the hospital. I left about 6:30.

GRACE: So 6:30 a.m. And --

DUNN: Yes.

GRACE: Your live-in Shawn Adkins, what time did he leave?

DUNN: He left at 5:30.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


2.  Shawn sudden leaves work a short time following his arrival.  Why?

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


WEED: His boss says that no, he wasn`t fired. That in fact he is a good employee and he just left without saying a word.

GRACE: OK, let me see the map again. So he`s at work. And give me the timeline again, please.

WEED: OK. So he arrives at work at 6:00 in the morning. He leaves at 6:10. But that --

GRACE: Wait, wait. He gets to work at 6:00, he -- gets a drink out of the soda machine and then leaves?

WEED: Yes.

GRACE: OK. Back to the map.

WEED: OK. So then, Nancy, he tells police according to this affidavit that he goes directly to his mother`s house located in Big Springs, Texas. But police say no, his cell phone is pinging in Colorado City where Hailey`s home is located.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html

 
3.  Shawn returns home.  Why?

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: So, Alexis Weed, he says -- let me get the story straight. And then line it up with the pings.

WEED: OK. So he says he leaves to go to his mother`s house and that`s in Big Spring, Texas. This is at 6:10. But his cell phone pings show that at 6:35 a.m., he is pinging in Colorado City.

GRACE: All the way up until nearly 7:00 a.m.

WEED: Correct.

GRACE: So he goes back to the area in which Hailey lives.

WEED: It looks that way.

GRACE: Question, if he were back at the home, is that the cell tower his phone would ping off?

WEED: Yes, police say in the affidavit that that`s the exact same tower.

GRACE: OK. Did you know that, Billie Dunn? He didn`t go straight to his mother`s. He went back to where the home is.

DUNN: I found that out last night watching the news. He told me the same thing that he went straight to his mom`s house in Big Spring.

GRACE: Now in his defense, to get from work to his mother`s, would he drive through Colorado City?

DUNN: No, I don`t think so. He could but it would be shorter to not come through Colorado City.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 04:18:47 PM
I don't even want to think about why there would be evidence in more than one landfill.  ::MonkeyShocked::

oh geez...I never thought of that! ::MonkeyShocked::

whatever happened to not getting an attorney cause you are innocent and have nothing to hide?? times have changed I guess...Billie probably needs to get lawyered up too...

They really said they found evidence in one of the landfills. My mind just went to wondering if the evidence was found in the first one, and they were still looking in the other two.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 04:23:16 PM
Texas landfill search finds clues in disappearance

LUBBOCK, Texas — An official says dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of a 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing nearly three weeks ago.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City.

Hailey Darlene Dunn was reported missing from Colorado City on Dec. 28.

Kampfer says landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched. But he says investigators have not given up on bringing Hailey home unharmed


http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/texas-landfill-search-finds-807952.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 04:26:43 PM
Kampfer: Report of Dunn Evidence in Landfill Not Accurate

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer says reports that dogs searching landfills turned up evidence in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn are not accurate.
Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer says while dogs got two "hits," nothing has been confirmed as evidence in the case.

An Associated Press report titled "Landfill Search Yields Clues in Missing Dunn Case?" has circulated across the country on the websites of television stations and newspapers. In the report, Kampfer is cited as saying dogs "turned up evidence." Kampfer says he can't confirm that.

 Investigators combed through trash at Allied Waste Services Friday, and law enforcement deemed the search "unsuccessful."

Trash from Colorado City is transferred to Abilene, Odessa, or Snyder, Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com.


Texas DPS Senior Trooper Sparky Dean says many landfills in the vicinity of Colorado City have already been searched. Dean said searches of this nature are not uncommon in missing persons cases that may involve criminal activity.


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332606


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 04:28:20 PM
So Kampfer said that evidence was found.  Now he is saying he CAN NOT CONFIRM that evidence was found.  He has not said that nothing was found.  Kampfer and Sparky are looking more and more like two of the 3 stooges IMO.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 04:29:47 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332606

Kampfer: Report of Dunn Evidence in Landfill Not Accurate


Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Tuesday, January 18 2011

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer says reports that dogs searching landfills turned up evidence in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn are not accurate.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer says while dogs got two "hits," nothing has been confirmed as evidence in the case.

An Associated Press report titled "Landfill Search Yields Clues in Missing Dunn Case?" has circulated across the country on the websites of television stations and newspapers. In the report, Kampfer is cited as saying dogs "turned up evidence." Kampfer says he can't confirm that.

Investigators combed through trash at Allied Waste Services Friday, and law enforcement deemed the search "unsuccessful."

Trash from Colorado City is transferred to Abilene, Odessa, or Snyder, Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com.

Texas DPS Senior Trooper Sparky Dean says many landfills in the vicinity of Colorado City have already been searched. Dean said searches of this nature are not uncommon in missing persons cases that may involve criminal activity.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 04:30:16 PM
Search Of Landfills Did Turn Up Some Evidence In Hailey Dunn Disappearance

LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) -- A spokesman for the investigation into a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl says dogs searching one of three landfills turned up evidence in the case even as hope remains for her safe return.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday on what was found or why the landfill in Abilene was searched in the disappearance of Hailey Darlene Dunn.

Abilene is 70 miles east of Colorado City, where the girl went missing last month.

Kampfer says searchers also used cadaver dogs in the Colorado City and Snyder landfills.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn. The woman's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier.

No one has been arrested. Adkins has been named a person of interest in the case.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26530508/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 04:32:32 PM
I think they found something
I think Kampfer told reporters
I think when Sparky got wind of Kampfer flapping his gums about it he flipped his flint
I think Sparky told Kampfer to take it back
I think they need help

all JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 04:34:28 PM
I think they found something
I think Kampfer told reporters
I think when Sparky got wind of Kampfer flapping his gums about it he flipped his flint
I think Sparky told Kampfer to take it back
I think they need help

all JMO

Bingo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 04:36:16 PM
I think they found something
I think Kampfer told reporters
I think when Sparky got wind of Kampfer flapping his gums about it he flipped his flint
I think Sparky told Kampfer to take it back
I think they need help

all JMO

Bingo

I think we have some of this going on 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
I think they found something
I think Kampfer told reporters
I think when Sparky got wind of Kampfer flapping his gums about it he flipped his flint
I think Sparky told Kampfer to take it back
I think they need help

all JMO

Bingo

I think we have some of this going on 

and some of this



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 04:40:56 PM
Texas landfill search finds clues in disappearance

LUBBOCK, Texas — An official says dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of a 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing nearly three weeks ago.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City.

Hailey Darlene Dunn was reported missing from Colorado City on Dec. 28.

Kampfer says landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched. But he says investigators have not given up on bringing Hailey home unharmed


http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/texas-landfill-search-finds-807952.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't have a map.  Is this landfill on the route that Shawn took from Colorado City to Big Springs on the morning of December 27, 2010?

Thanks.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
Texas landfill search finds clues in disappearance

LUBBOCK, Texas — An official says dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of a 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing nearly three weeks ago.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City.

Hailey Darlene Dunn was reported missing from Colorado City on Dec. 28.

Kampfer says landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched. But he says investigators have not given up on bringing Hailey home unharmed


http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/texas-landfill-search-finds-807952.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't have a map.  Is this landfill on the route that Shawn took from Colorado City to Big Springs on the morning of December 27, 2010?

Thanks.

Janet

Big Springs is to the west of Colorado City and Abilene is to the east.

Colorado City is between the two but closed to Big Springs


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 04:56:58 PM
Texas landfill search finds clues in disappearance

LUBBOCK, Texas — An official says dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of a 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing nearly three weeks ago.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City.

Hailey Darlene Dunn was reported missing from Colorado City on Dec. 28.

Kampfer says landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched. But he says investigators have not given up on bringing Hailey home unharmed


http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/texas-landfill-search-finds-807952.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't have a map.  Is this landfill on the route that Shawn took from Colorado City to Big Springs on the morning of December 27, 2010?

Thanks.

Janet

Big Springs is to the west of Colorado City and Abilene is to the east.

Colorado City is between the two but closed to Big Springs

Thanks Northern Rose

How far is Abilene from Carson City?  Has the time that Shawn arrived at his mother's house on the morning of December 27th been revealed?

Thanks

Janet

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 05:00:39 PM
Texas landfill search finds clues in disappearance

LUBBOCK, Texas — An official says dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of a 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing nearly three weeks ago.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City.

Hailey Darlene Dunn was reported missing from Colorado City on Dec. 28.

Kampfer says landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched. But he says investigators have not given up on bringing Hailey home unharmed


http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/texas-landfill-search-finds-807952.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't have a map.  Is this landfill on the route that Shawn took from Colorado City to Big Springs on the morning of December 27, 2010?

Thanks.

Janet

Big Springs is to the west of Colorado City and Abilene is to the east.

Colorado City is between the two but closed to Big Springs

Thanks Northern Rose

How far is Abilene from Carson City?  Has the time that Shawn arrived at his mother's house on the morning of December 27th been revealed?

Thanks

Janet

Janet

Carson City?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 05:05:01 PM
self-edit - my last post

Carson City s/b Northern Rose


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 05:06:01 PM
self-edit - my last post

Carson City s/b Colorado City



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 05:13:08 PM
self-edit - my last post

Carson City s/b Colorado City



About 70 miles


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 05:21:40 PM

Thanks Klaas.

Has there been any cell phone pings that has placed Shawn in the Abilene area.

What led authorities to the landfill in Abilene?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 05:24:19 PM

Thanks Klaas.

Has there been any cell phone pings that has placed Shawn in the Abilene area.

What led authorities to the landfill in Abilene?

Janet

Garbage from Colorado City is taken there.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 05:26:46 PM
Hailey Dunn Update: Landfill Search Yields Evidence in Case of Missing Texas Girl


LUBBOCK, Texas (CBS/KTAB/AP) Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of Hailey Dunn, the 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing in late December, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

PICTURES: Hailey Dunn Missing

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City, where Hailey  Dunn was reported missing.

"It's a sensitive part of the investigation," Kampfer said. "The cadaver dogs did hit on items at the landfill."
He said landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched.

"We have not given up on the idea she is a runaway or something along those lines of a missing person," Kampfer said. "We don't want to do that. If there's a small chance that she's still out there alive we want to keep up our effort to find her."

Details about the case have been scarce until last week, when a town official named her mother's former live-in boyfriend as one of several people of interest in the case.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn, whose boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier when she told him she was going to her father's nearby home and would stay overnight with a friend. She did neither.

Police affidavits released this week offer a few details, but suggest the teen's mother and her live-in boyfriend lied and gave contradictory statements to investigators. Both have strongly denied involvement in Hailey's disappearance and claimed they were misquoted by police.

Officials have said Adkins is among several people of interest, but they declined to offer details about any others. Adkins told AP on Friday that he had nothing to do with the girl's disappearance and said he prays daily for her safe return.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028817-504083.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 05:29:07 PM
Two Private Search Groups Arrive in Colorado City

Representatives from two private missing children's organizations have arrived in Colorado City to help in the search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn – KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center.

Brad Dennis, the Director of Search Operations for KlaasKids Foundation’s National Search Center for Missing Children said he would be meeting with law enforcement throughout the day as well as Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn.  Dennis said he hoped to formulate a plan for how his group can assist in the search by the end of the day.

The Laura Recovery Center, based outside Houston in Friendswood, Texas, organizes community-based searches using very specific mapping and communication techniques.

The organization was founded in 1998, a year following the deadly abduction of 12-year-old Laura Smither.  Smither's body was recovered 17 days after her disappearance.  The organization was established to honor the volunteers, document and publish their effective search methods, and educate families, communities, and law enforcement in working together to prevent abductions.

The KlaasKids Foundation was established in 1994 in an effort to help protect children. The group's founder, Marc Klaas, is the father of murder victim Polly Hannah Klaas. He's regularly appears on the Nancy Grace show to discuss Hailey's case.

Dennis has over twenty years of experience in search and rescue and disaster response, according to klaaskids.org. He has managed search efforts for over 60 missing/abducted children around the country.

Officials now say the information that leads to Hailey's safe return is $15,000.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332626


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 05:30:12 PM
UPDATE: Possible Text from Hailey Being 'Held Close'

Tuesday, 3 p.m.
Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer now confirms there is a text message that is being looked into by authorities. He would not reveal additional information.

MORE....

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332277


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 05:30:15 PM
I think they found something
I think Kampfer told reporters
I think when Sparky got wind of Kampfer flapping his gums about it he flipped his flint
I think Sparky told Kampfer to take it back
I think they need help

all JMO

Who the heck is in charge down there?  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/runcircles.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/runcircles.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/runcircles.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/runcircles.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 05:31:29 PM
Hailey Dunn Update: Landfill Search Yields Evidence in Case of Missing Texas Girl


LUBBOCK, Texas (CBS/KTAB/AP) Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of Hailey Dunn, the 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing in late December, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

PICTURES: Hailey Dunn Missing

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City, where Hailey  Dunn was reported missing.

"It's a sensitive part of the investigation," Kampfer said. "The cadaver dogs did hit on items at the landfill."
He said landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched.

"We have not given up on the idea she is a runaway or something along those lines of a missing person," Kampfer said. "We don't want to do that. If there's a small chance that she's still out there alive we want to keep up our effort to find her."

Details about the case have been scarce until last week, when a town official named her mother's former live-in boyfriend as one of several people of interest in the case.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn, whose boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier when she told him she was going to her father's nearby home and would stay overnight with a friend. She did neither.

Police affidavits released this week offer a few details, but suggest the teen's mother and her live-in boyfriend lied and gave contradictory statements to investigators. Both have strongly denied involvement in Hailey's disappearance and claimed they were misquoted by police.

Officials have said Adkins is among several people of interest, but they declined to offer details about any others. Adkins told AP on Friday that he had nothing to do with the girl's disappearance and said he prays daily for her safe return.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028817-504083.html

Someone needs to tell Kampfer that if Cadaver dogs are hitting, Hailey is not a runaway


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 05:32:20 PM

Has there been any cell phone pings that has placed Shawn in the Abilene area.

What led authorities to the landfill in Abilene?

Janet

Garbage from Colorado City is taken there.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: texasmom on January 18, 2011, 05:43:06 PM
I thought this resolved the Abilene landfill search, but maybe I missed something since I'm in and out and haven't read everything.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9287.msg1291276#msg1291276

Posted by Klaasend:

http://www.ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/abilene-dump-site-results-not-related-dunn-investigation

Abilene dump site results not related to Dunn investigation
By Staff
Posted January 15, 2011 - 2:17pm

Officials investigating the Hailey Dunn case did confirm hits by cadaver dogs at the Abilene landfill; however, those results are not related to the investigation.

Authorities spent two days searching at the landfill based on hits by cadaver dogs, who are trained to follow dead human scent.
The hits were related to skin cells inside a discarded cast.
 
The investigation continues into the disappearance of Dunn, a 13-year-old Colorado City teen who disppeared sometime either Sunday or Monday, December 26-27.
 
Shawn Adkins, the last person to claim to see Hailey alive and former live-in boyfriend of Dunn's mother, Billie Jean Dean, is a prime suspect in the investigation.
 
Reports of a bone located north of Dunn were determined to be a deer, not human, bone.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 05:51:45 PM
Hailey Dunn Update: Landfill Search Yields Evidence in Case of Missing Texas Girl


LUBBOCK, Texas (CBS/KTAB/AP) Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of Hailey Dunn, the 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing in late December, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

PICTURES: Hailey Dunn Missing

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City, where Hailey  Dunn was reported missing.

"It's a sensitive part of the investigation," Kampfer said. "The cadaver dogs did hit on items at the landfill."
He said landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched.

"We have not given up on the idea she is a runaway or something along those lines of a missing person," Kampfer said. "We don't want to do that. If there's a small chance that she's still out there alive we want to keep up our effort to find her."

Details about the case have been scarce until last week, when a town official named her mother's former live-in boyfriend as one of several people of interest in the case.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn, whose boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier when she told him she was going to her father's nearby home and would stay overnight with a friend. She did neither.

Police affidavits released this week offer a few details, but suggest the teen's mother and her live-in boyfriend lied and gave contradictory statements to investigators. Both have strongly denied involvement in Hailey's disappearance and claimed they were misquoted by police.

Officials have said Adkins is among several people of interest, but they declined to offer details about any others. Adkins told AP on Friday that he had nothing to do with the girl's disappearance and said he prays daily for her safe return.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028817-504083.html

Someone needs to tell Kampfer that if Cadaver dogs are hitting, Hailey is not a runaway

I thought the same thing, although it might be too deep of a concept for him to absorb. We need a new sheriff in town. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/12.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 05:54:25 PM
Colorado City Will Add Two Officers To Search For Missing GirlBy Laura Madison, KTXS News

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Colorado City will add two police officers to their force to help search for missing teen Hailey Dunn.

KTXS News has talked with Pete Kampfer, the city manager of Colorado City, says ads will go out today to advertise hiring two new officers.

Three weeks in to the search for the missing eighth-grader, Kampfer says many of the people who have volunteered to search have had to go back to their normal lives, but efforts need to continue to find Hailey.

In other developments, Brad Dennis, the Director of Search Operations for KlaasKids, an organization that searches for missing kids, says he's organizing a search party that will be headquartered at the Abilene Civic Center Wednesday.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26529027/detail.html

Does any one know how many police officer the Colorado City PD has? I looked on their municipal site, and I didn't see a number.
Hi Fanny> I found this wrt the police "force" (If you could call it that...) The "adgenda minutes" at the link are also interesting to read.

Police Department
Responsibilities
Contact
John Bivins
Chief of Police
Contact Chief Bivins

201 W. 3rd St.
Colorado City, TX  79512

(325) 728-5294
(325) 728-3161
(325) 728-8492 fax
Emergency: 9-1-1

Hours
24 hours a day
7 days a week


The Colorado City Police Department is a full service municipal agency, serving the citizens of Colorado City, Texas.  With a current authorized strength of seven (7) sworn officers and six (6) civilian positions, the department serves a population of just over 4200 people.

The Colorado City Police Department serves the community by protecting citizens and property, preventing crime, enforcing laws, and maintaining order.

Goals

The main goal of the Colorado City Police Department is to create and maintain a safe, secure environment for all Colorado City citizens and visitors. We strive to accomplish this goal through proactive community programs designed to prevent crime as well as efficient, thorough investigations of crimes committed. Our Department's Mission Statement reflects our core values. Read Our
Mission Statement.

Divisions

The Colorado City Police Department has several divisions to help accomplish our goals. 
http://tx-coloradocity.civiccities.com/index.aspx?nid=187   (http://tx-coloradocity.civiccities.com/index.aspx?nid=187)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 05:59:33 PM
I am not sure if this has been posted yet. It is a few days old and of course doesn't offer much....

http://tx-coloradocity.civiccities.com/DocumentView.aspx?DID=441   (http://tx-coloradocity.civiccities.com/DocumentView.aspx?DID=441)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 06:01:10 PM
Colorado City Will Add Two Officers To Search For Missing GirlBy Laura Madison, KTXS News

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Colorado City will add two police officers to their force to help search for missing teen Hailey Dunn.

KTXS News has talked with Pete Kampfer, the city manager of Colorado City, says ads will go out today to advertise hiring two new officers.

Three weeks in to the search for the missing eighth-grader, Kampfer says many of the people who have volunteered to search have had to go back to their normal lives, but efforts need to continue to find Hailey.

In other developments, Brad Dennis, the Director of Search Operations for KlaasKids, an organization that searches for missing kids, says he's organizing a search party that will be headquartered at the Abilene Civic Center Wednesday.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26529027/detail.html

Does any one know how many police officer the Colorado City PD has? I looked on their municipal site, and I didn't see a number.
Hi Fanny> I found this wrt the police "force" (If you could call it that...) The "adgenda minutes" at the link are also interesting to read.

Police Department
Responsibilities
Contact
John Bivins
Chief of Police
Contact Chief Bivins

201 W. 3rd St.
Colorado City, TX  79512

(325) 728-5294
(325) 728-3161
(325) 728-8492 fax
Emergency: 9-1-1

Hours
24 hours a day
7 days a week


The Colorado City Police Department is a full service municipal agency, serving the citizens of Colorado City, Texas.  With a current authorized strength of seven (7) sworn officers and six (6) civilian positions, the department serves a population of just over 4200 people.

The Colorado City Police Department serves the community by protecting citizens and property, preventing crime, enforcing laws, and maintaining order.

Goals

The main goal of the Colorado City Police Department is to create and maintain a safe, secure environment for all Colorado City citizens and visitors. We strive to accomplish this goal through proactive community programs designed to prevent crime as well as efficient, thorough investigations of crimes committed. Our Department's Mission Statement reflects our core values. Read Our
Mission Statement.

Divisions

The Colorado City Police Department has several divisions to help accomplish our goals. 
http://tx-coloradocity.civiccities.com/index.aspx?nid=187   (http://tx-coloradocity.civiccities.com/index.aspx?nid=187)

That figures to one officer for every 600 citizens.  Shazam!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 06:06:47 PM
just now looking at this,the moms bf prob, had something to do with her missing
i dont know the dads,or the friends addys, so i didnt plot them,just the neighborhood
prison, when an inmate is free to go,IE time served,the inmate just walks out the
gate and gone, most have a ride some dont, i didnt check the RSO for her town,conty
Colorado City tx, Mitchell county

WALLACE (WL)
Correctional Institutions Division -
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/unitdirectory/wl.htm

map prison to Hailey Dunn is 1 mile
 http://tinyurl.com/5vx3xur

2 guys that broke parole,didnt check where they are from, they are RSO
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/wanted/Comcheat/Comcheat.html
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/wanted/Allums.html
link to them
http://people.consolidated.net/tdcj-iad/

I didn't realize there was a prison facility in Colorado City.  ::MonkeyEek::
A little more on the prison:

"Breathtaking sunrises and equally spectacular sunsets characterize Colorado City nestled in the Heart of West Texas, on the banks of the ruddy Colorado River. Her history is as delightfully colorful as her name, “Colorado,” which in Spanish means “Red.”

  " Today, Colorado City boasts excellent schools, a state park, lakes, rivers, city parks, a library, modern hospital, motels, a nine-hole golf course, sports complex, airport, a variety of restaurants and many antique shops. We have a 1300-bed medium security prison named after Daniel Webster “80 John” Wallace and a 1000-bed jail named after the famed Texas Ranger, Dick Ware."
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http://www.coloradocitychamberofcommerce.com/   (http://www.coloradocitychamberofcommerce.com/)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 06:08:39 PM
Hailey Dunn Update: Landfill Search Yields Evidence in Case of Missing Texas Girl


LUBBOCK, Texas (CBS/KTAB/AP) Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of Hailey Dunn, the 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing in late December, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

PICTURES: Hailey Dunn Missing

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City, where Hailey  Dunn was reported missing.

"It's a sensitive part of the investigation," Kampfer said. "The cadaver dogs did hit on items at the landfill."
He said landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched.

"We have not given up on the idea she is a runaway or something along those lines of a missing person," Kampfer said. "We don't want to do that. If there's a small chance that she's still out there alive we want to keep up our effort to find her."

Details about the case have been scarce until last week, when a town official named her mother's former live-in boyfriend as one of several people of interest in the case.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn, whose boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier when she told him she was going to her father's nearby home and would stay overnight with a friend. She did neither.

Police affidavits released this week offer a few details, but suggest the teen's mother and her live-in boyfriend lied and gave contradictory statements to investigators. Both have strongly denied involvement in Hailey's disappearance and claimed they were misquoted by police.

Officials have said Adkins is among several people of interest, but they declined to offer details about any others. Adkins told AP on Friday that he had nothing to do with the girl's disappearance and said he prays daily for her safe return.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028817-504083.html

Someone needs to tell Kampfer that if Cadaver dogs are hitting, Hailey is not a runaway

I thought the same thing, although it might be too deep of a concept for him to absorb. We need a new sheriff in town. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/12.gif)

Shawn's lie in regards to why he suddenly left work a short time following his arrival on the morning of December 27th ... his lie that implied he did not return home prior to driving to Big Springs on the morning of December 27th as well as the fact that Hailey did not take her jacket ... should cause Kampfer and Dean to clue in to the fact that Hailey is not a runaway.

Janet

+++++

Two Weeks Later: Still No Sign of Hailey Dunn
Monday, January 10 2011


"I'm confident we'll find Hailey," said Dean. "I don't think Hailey wants to be found. I believe she's hiding. She's probably scared at this point. We're going to find her."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=329706



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 06:19:27 PM
UPDATE: Possible Text from Hailey Being 'Held Close'

Tuesday, 3 p.m.
Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer now confirms there is a text message that is being looked into by authorities. He would not reveal additional information.

MORE....

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332277


Text Message?

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: To Alexis Weed, our producer on the story, joining us out of New York. Alexis, weigh in. What do you know?

ALEXIS WEED, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Nancy, we`re getting a little bit more information on what could be the timeline that has to do with Monday December 27th, the day in question. We`re finding out today from Billie Dunn, that perhaps there was a text message, she`s hearing from police, a text message was sent from her phone, that`s the phone that Hailey would use, she used her mother`s phone, sent at 2:00 in the afternoon, to the friend where she was supposedly going according to Shawn Adkins to the friend`s house, however, there was no response to that text. The text said just what are you doing to the friend.

GRACE: Now Billie Dunn, explain to me the significance of that?

B. DUNN: With Shawn getting the cell phone pings coming back to Colorado City that morning, I want to know who she talked to on the phone, it`s very important to me if she was on that phone and they`re not saying that anybody is an accountable witness it seems that has seen her on Monday. So I want to know who called my cell phone that morning and that afternoon, and who she called, and those are answers that I know they have, that they still haven`t gotten back with me on.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 06:23:38 PM
These guys may be still be alive in CCity afterall too...Along with Sparky "Fife" (thanks Fanny) and Gomer Kempf


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: redquartz on January 18, 2011, 06:40:30 PM
Just saw this on facebook......
Nancy Grace
Nancy Grace Producers getting breaking news in the disappearance of missing cheerleader Hailey Dunn. Tune in at 8 PM LIVE for the latest!
35 minutes ago

anybody know anything about this?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 06:50:18 PM
Just saw this on facebook......
Nancy Grace
Nancy Grace Producers getting breaking news in the disappearance of missing cheerleader Hailey Dunn. Tune in at 8 PM LIVE for the latest!
35 minutes ago

anybody know anything about this?

Thanks Redquartz.

It could be that Nancy Grace's breaking new is all about the reported case related find at the Abilene landfill.  The find has since been denied by the same department that reported it.

Janet

+++++

Search Of Landfills Did Turn Up Some Evidence In Hailey Dunn Disappearance

LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) -- A spokesman for the investigation into a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl says dogs searching one of three landfills turned up evidence in the case even as hope remains for her safe return.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday on what was found or why the landfill in Abilene was searched in the disappearance of Hailey Darlene Dunn.

Abilene is 70 miles east of Colorado City, where the girl went missing last month.

Kampfer says searchers also used cadaver dogs in the Colorado City and Snyder landfills.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn. The woman's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier.

No one has been arrested. Adkins has been named a person of interest in the case.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26530508/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 06:51:21 PM
It would all be funny if it wasn't so pitiful. No press conferences to keep the public up to date. But, just because you don't see police it doesn't mean they are not working. Shawn is not a person of interest. Shawn is a person of interest. They are working this as a crime but they really think Hailey is a runaway. The FBI is on the case and all statements will come from the FBI from here on out. (Have we seen the FBI?)

 Pete Kempfer is the spokesman. No, Trooper Sparky is the spokesman. Snort! They didn't find any evidence in the Abilene landfill. Yes, They found evidence in a landfill. No, Trooper Sparky said to take that back! They didn't find any evidence in the landfill. There are no police searches, but the civilians are left to themselves to search. And to their credit, they continue to search with no real leadership from law enforcement.

The mounted sheriff's searched this weekend. The people of Colorado City are feeding the searchers and collecting items for the Dunn children. Everyone but Shawn prayed in church Sunday for Hailey. Clint is exhausted from searching on his own. Billie is mad at police for making her fail her poly, and telling every body all her dirty laundry. Nancy Grace is snarling at everyone who tries to give a report............I still wonder how Billie's toothache is.  ::MonkeyRoll::

After all of this, where is Hailey? ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 06:52:47 PM
Just saw this on facebook......
Nancy Grace
Nancy Grace Producers getting breaking news in the disappearance of missing cheerleader Hailey Dunn. Tune in at 8 PM LIVE for the latest!
35 minutes ago

anybody know anything about this?

Could be the evidence found in one of the landfills that the city manager is backtracking on.  Hard to say. 


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/13/authorities-step-search-missing-texas-cheerleader/?test=latestnews


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 18, 2011, 06:56:00 PM
could be big news?  clint dunn has been staying across the street from me and the news crews are at that house right now


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: texasmom on January 18, 2011, 06:59:18 PM
could be big news?  clint dunn has been staying across the street from me and the news crews are at that house right now

Thanks helper! 

I hope it's good news.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 07:02:25 PM
could be big news?  clint dunn has been staying across the street from me and the news crews are at that house right now

Is this the first time the new crews have been there HELPER?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 18, 2011, 07:04:42 PM
no they came when they interviewed grandma


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 18, 2011, 07:07:19 PM
it is the Abilene reporter news crew


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 07:08:04 PM
could be big news?  clint dunn has been staying across the street from me and the news crews are at that house right now

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Thanks Helper.

Maybe ... just maybe ... Nancy Grace is going to come through with "breaking news".

Janet

++++


Just saw this on facebook......
Nancy Grace
Nancy Grace Producers getting breaking news in the disappearance of missing cheerleader Hailey Dunn. Tune in at 8 PM LIVE for the latest!
35 minutes ago

anybody know anything about this?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 18, 2011, 07:08:12 PM
no they came when they interviewed grandma
might just be another interview?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 18, 2011, 07:09:26 PM
are there any LE vehicles there?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 18, 2011, 07:10:31 PM
no


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 07:12:53 PM
it is the Abilene reporter news crew

Isn't Priscilla with the Albilene News? She usually does a spot on Nancy Grace's show.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 18, 2011, 07:13:47 PM
which news crew?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 18, 2011, 07:13:54 PM
i dont know but they are packing up right now


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 07:16:14 PM
i dont know but they are packing up right now

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/sigh.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 07:54:12 PM
I don't know whether to get all aflutter over Nancy Grace coming on or not.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 07:58:28 PM
I don't know whether to get all aflutter over Nancy Grace coming on or not.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 07:59:22 PM
Nancy Grace Time!!!  I think.

Janet
5:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 18, 2011, 08:04:11 PM
Sulfuric acid........ ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 18, 2011, 08:06:08 PM
NG - Sulfuric acid found on Hailey's bedsheets! ::MonkeyShocked::

Looking more and more like this little girl never left her house that day...so sad.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 08:16:11 PM
NG - Sulfuric acid found on Hailey's bedsheets! ::MonkeyShocked::

Looking more and more like this little girl never left her house that day...so sad.

um...I didn't hear that it was found for sure on the bed sheets..I thought what I heard is that they are testing the sheets for that and bodily fluids and  seeing if SA had access to the acid...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 18, 2011, 08:21:44 PM
Okay Billie...whatever !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 18, 2011, 08:26:19 PM
You're right Cookie. From NG's opening it sounded, to me, as if they had some evidence of sulfuric acid and then she went on to fluids on the bedsheets, I rolled it all together, my bad. There must be some reason they're looking onto the sulfuric acid availibility though?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 08:32:25 PM
Tamikosmom's Theory in a Nutshell

December 26, 2010
- Hailey is last seen by David. PM

December 26, 2010 - December 27, 2010
- During the night Shawn sexually assaults Hailey in her bed.
- To assure silence Hailey is killed in her bed and covered with her blanket.

December 27, 2010
- Shawn leaves for work. AM
- Billie leaves for work. AM
- Shawn returns home following Billie's departure. AM
- Shawn retrieves Hailey's body. AM
- Shawn disposes of Hailey's body somewhere between home and Big Spring. AM
- Shawn spends day with his mother in Big Springs.
- Shawn returns home prior to David's arrival. PM
- Shawn picks Billie up from work. PM  

Lies are created in attempts to cover up truths.  What truths are Shawn attempting to cover up?

1.  Why did Shawn lie about the reason he left work shortly after he arrived?
2.  Why did Shawn lie about going directly to his mother's home in Big Springs?


1.  If Hailey left her home alive ... why was her jacket left behind?


good observations..
I was reading the Statement Analysis
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Snip..
Billie's constant use of the pronoun "we" show that she is still united with him and will likely face arrest with him as well.




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 08:32:47 PM
You're right Cookie. From NG's opening it sounded, to me, as if they had some evidence of sulfuric acid and then she went on to fluids on the bedsheets, I rolled it all together, my bad. There must be some reason they're looking onto the sulfuric acid availibility though?

NG is always so dramatic isn't she? especially in the very beginning of her show..it usually ends up being news that the monkeys on here have already uncovered..

NG did say something about , could sulfuric acid make a child's body disappear...

LE down there are saying that there are other suspects that LE is not revealing...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 18, 2011, 08:42:24 PM
didn't she have a freakin week to talk to him before he failed the test and got run off?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 08:42:47 PM
You're right Cookie. From NG's opening it sounded, to me, as if they had some evidence of sulfuric acid and then she went on to fluids on the bedsheets, I rolled it all together, my bad. There must be some reason they're looking onto the sulfuric acid availibility though?

NG is always so dramatic isn't she? especially in the very beginning of her show..it usually ends up being news that the monkeys on here have already uncovered..

NG did say something about , could sulfuric acid make a child's body disappear...

LE down there are saying that there are other suspects that LE is not revealing...

I have at least one on my short list that I believe would be more than willing to help Shawn.  Not too hard to figure out who, and it is not Billie.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 08:49:22 PM
NG - Sulfuric acid found on Hailey's bedsheets! ::MonkeyShocked::

Looking more and more like this little girl never left her house that day...so sad.

um...I didn't hear that it was found for sure on the bed sheets..I thought what I heard is that they are testing the sheets for that and bodily fluids and  seeing if SA had access to the acid...

Hi Cookie.

You are right.  The sheets are being tested to determine whether Hailey was assaulted/murdered in her bed.

I believe it was mentione that Shawn had access to sulphuric at his work.

I would sure like to know where Shawn was between 7:00 AM when cell phone pings last indicated he was in Colorado City and ... 9:00 AM when pings indicated he was in Big Springs on the morning of December 27th.

Why did Shawn state that he drove directly to Big Springs when he abruptly left work shortly after he arrived on the morning of December 27th?  Cell phone pings imply between 6:30 am and 7:00 he was home in Colorado City.

I would sure like to know where Shawn was between 7:00 AM when pings last indicated he was in Colorado City and ... 9:00 AM when pings indicated he was in Big Springs on the morning of December 27th.  Could it be that it was this timeframe when a deceased Hailey was disposed.

Janet




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 08:49:30 PM
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Clink on the link below just before 9pm ET to listen live:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 08:54:13 PM
hmmm.. I think that Billie just messed up again..NG asked her when she saw Hailey last ..she says that she saw her around 10 or 11 in her bed and she was watching tv!! before, she said that she peeked in on her to "ease her mind" didn't touch her or anything, but peaked in on her...No mention that Hailey was watching tv at that time! and if your kid was still awake when you went in their room, or even before they went to bed, don't you tell your kid good night?? She messed up another story..she is good at doing that!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 08:55:11 PM
Shawn Adkins also goes by unconscious_mind78

I hope LE has this info too he changed it was unconscious_mind85

seems to be posting after Haileys dissapearance...looks like he bought a mask recently


snip...
by unconscious_mind78 on Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:42 pm
Location TX
I just have to say how professional and Friendly Mask4me was. He answered all my questions promptly and not mention I was sooooooooo impressed with my mask. Mask4me does phenominal Work on his masks and I highly recommend anyone picking up a mask from him. His work is A+, Top notch, Awesome. And my mask got to me super fast. Overall I am totally pleased with how our transaction went. Thank again Mask4me!!! Your the man!

http://www.michael-myers.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=77483


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 18, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
BD said SA won't take her calls.  NG said why don't you call his cell?  BD said he doesn't have a cell phone.

This makes no sense because she just stated in the previous segment of NG that she hasn't talked to SA but he sends her texts.
Is there a way to send texts w/ no cell phone?

If NG would listen and ask follow up questions...................................

arghhh


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:01:04 PM
hmmm.. I think that Billie just messed up again..NG asked her when she saw Hailey last ..she says that she saw her around 10 or 11 in her bed and she was watching tv!! before, she said that she peeked in on her to "ease her mind" didn't touch her or anything, but peaked in on her...No mention that Hailey was watching tv at that time! and if your kid was still awake when you went in their room, or even before they went to bed, don't you tell your kid good night?? She messed up another story..she is good at doing that!

bumped...did you catch this too Tolerance?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 09:02:32 PM
didn't she have a freakin week to talk to him before he failed the test and got run off?

I agree. They had several days together before he left. There are many questions she says she didn't ask him. She didn't even ask  Mary Beth questions during that time. Most times she just says she didn't ask. Why would you as a mother not ask every single question under the sun? Why is she so passive? It's just not normal. I would be like Spindy Anthony with my notebook and pen going around the neighborhood finding out all I could, ESPECIALLY from Shawn.

Deep down I do believe she did talk to Shawn and she knows many things she's not saying. That is why she is so evasive. She goes on Nancy Grace to have Nancy stroke her and make her look like she doesn't know what happened. But I believe she does. Now Shawn won't talk to her, and she is panicked. He is leaving her there dangling in the wind while he has gotten a lawyer. She doesn't want to get a lawyer because then she might have to tell him the truth, and right now she can't give up Shawn. He is that important to her. She said last night if she found out Shawn did something to Hailey she would be "disturbed" and wouldn't speak to him. Wow! It surely sound very immature and juvenile. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:04:42 PM
I really don't know how Billie ever obtained her nursing license..she seems very slow and dense to me..sure wouldn't want her administering an iv to me! she would probably forget what she was supposed to put in there!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 09:10:27 PM
I really don't know how Billie ever obtained her nursing license..she seems very slow and dense to me..sure wouldn't want her administering an iv to me! she would probably forget what she was supposed to put in there!

I don't know what Billie's drug history was before Shawn, but I have not a doubt in my mind that drugs played a big part of their relationship for the past two and a half years. The addiction of drugs and the addiction to Shawn would make her do many things she may not do before. She may have been a good nurse previously, but not renewing her license was probably one of many things she let go because of her addictions. The way she acts on TV she seems totally stoned to me. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:11:33 PM
this is a pic on the website I posted before to show it really is Shawn Adkins on the Michael Myers site and he still is posting and buying masks.. here is a quote from him ..

"My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better
world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on
others. I want no one to escape"
http://www.michael-myers.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=44291&start=15

scroll to the very bottom


(I cant help to wonder WHY is he buying masks after the fact is he going to do it again)?!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 09:15:22 PM
I believe that on the morning of December 27th prior to leaving the home for work ... Billie may have viewed the form of her deceased daughter.

Janet

+++++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked look she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:15:28 PM
o/t...Nancy Grace just announced that a little 11 yr old boy that she had featured on her show last night as missing from his adoptive parent's home has been found safe at his grand mothers home..also a girl (can't remember their names, I am so excited!) that Muffy started a thread on last night was found safe too..NG also had mentioned her last night and about her being safe today.. ::MonkeySlide::
great news!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:17:29 PM
I believe that on the morning of December 27th prior to leaving the home for work ... Billie may have viewed the form of her deceased daughter.

Janet

+++++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked look she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html



oh..I see...thanks for clearing that up for me Janet..
but still, if you go look in your child's room at bedtime, don't you say good night to them? course maybe she did and just didn't mention that part..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 18, 2011, 09:20:27 PM
This is another terrible case where the 2 caretakers are as dumb as rocks and involved with drugs.
Hopefully, LE in this case (although I'm doubtful as of this writing) will actually solve this one.
I believe Billie is one of the other un-named POIs and perhaps Sean's cousin is one as well.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 09:23:30 PM
Could the two "others" who failed polygraphs have been Shawn's mother and uncle ... the two that gave him an alibi for the day of December 27th?  Could it be that they are involved to some compacity in assisting Shawn in the cover up?

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


DUNN: ... They`ve talked to his mom and an uncle who stopped by his mom`s house saying that he was there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: ... They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. I told them I had so much faith in that test.

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it, lost all faith in the test. A couple of other people failed it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:24:22 PM
sorry to just keep poppin in with info on Shawn, I just ran accross some things and thought I would share..

last post on the topic promise.

here is a post from him on Jan 6
Snip..........
Find Hailey Dunn
by unconscious_mind78 on Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:51 am

I'm sure alot of you know by now the situation surrounding my Fiance's daughter Hailey Dunn's Disapperance. Me, My Fiance and Her Son all need any help we can get to bring her home safe. So, im asking you guys to please pray for us and if you might here anything that could help us find her wether how small it is please contact me through pm or you can pm me and I will give you my Phone number. I've been a member here since 2005 and all I have to say is this forum is full of great ppl and we come together when one is in need. Again if you here anything regarding Hailey please contact me. Thank you so much and God Bless yall.


http://www.michael-myers.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=77442


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 18, 2011, 09:25:09 PM
This is another terrible case where the 2 caretakers are as dumb as rocks and involved with drugs.
Hopefully, LE in this case (although I'm doubtful as of this writing) will actually solve this one.
I believe Billie is one of the other un-named POIs and perhaps Sean's cousin is one as well.
I think so too


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:25:25 PM
So if Shawn said he was going to marry Billie on Jan 6 why are they seperated now?anyone know?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
sorry to just keep poppin in with info on Shawn, I just ran accross some things and thought I would share..

last post on the topic promise.

here is a post from him on Jan 6
Snip..........
Find Hailey Dunn
by unconscious_mind78 on Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:51 am

I'm sure alot of you know by now the situation surrounding my Fiance's daughter Hailey Dunn's Disapperance. Me, My Fiance and Her Son all need any help we can get to bring her home safe. So, im asking you guys to please pray for us and if you might here anything that could help us find her wether how small it is please contact me through pm or you can pm me and I will give you my Phone number. I've been a member here since 2005 and all I have to say is this forum is full of great ppl and we come together when one is in need. Again if you here anything regarding Hailey please contact me. Thank you so much and God Bless yall.


http://www.michael-myers.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=77442

Billie said that SA doesn't have a phone.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
his mom's phone then?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 18, 2011, 09:27:48 PM
Billie said she didn't know about his cell pings until she read it in the search warrant affadavits. It had come out previously that he left work early ( Monday 27th ) , she knew that but she thought he went to his Mum's and then had come home later.
no one has addressed the Tuesday. Did he get up and pretend to go to work ?
She went to work, found out Hailey had not made it back home, she went home ( co-worker drove her ) made some calls, and then her sister in law drove her to the police dept. I am not sure where Shawn was during this.
..
Now she is trying to find out what calls were made on her cell. Good luck with that as the password to get into the records is being sent to the cell which the police have. 
..
I also have a fairly good idea of who else failed their LDTs and who is one of the other suspects.
..
I thought she appeared out of it. Have we ever seen her not like that ? What is that condition ? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:28:48 PM
sorry to just keep poppin in with info on Shawn, I just ran accross some things and thought I would share..

last post on the topic promise.

here is a post from him on Jan 6
Snip..........
Find Hailey Dunn
by unconscious_mind78 on Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:51 am

I'm sure alot of you know by now the situation surrounding my Fiance's daughter Hailey Dunn's Disapperance. Me, My Fiance and Her Son all need any help we can get to bring her home safe. So, im asking you guys to please pray for us and if you might here anything that could help us find her wether how small it is please contact me through pm or you can pm me and I will give you my Phone number. I've been a member here since 2005 and all I have to say is this forum is full of great ppl and we come together when one is in need. Again if you here anything regarding Hailey please contact me. Thank you so much and God Bless yall.


http://www.michael-myers.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=77442

Billie said that SA doesn't have a phone.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
his mom's phone then?

doesnt say his moms phone..
I like what this poster said to him...

snip...

Re: Find Hailey Dunn
by tola67 on Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:27 pm

Due to the circumstances, and the fact that you, Shawn continue to buy or sell masks on this site is beyond me. If my daughter was missing, I'd be gone from here to find her. I'm going through a divorce and have not posted much here lately, and if my daughter was missing, the last place I would be is on a computer enjoying masks etc... I don't know you, but things are fishy when you post a thread about her disappearance, and post no pics or info about what happened. I hope to God she is ok and unharmed.

(I couldnt agree more)
http://www.michael-myers.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=77442


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
So if Shawn said he was going to marry Billie on Jan 6 why are they seperated now?anyone know?

Supposedly she kicked him out after he failed his poly. Of course, she failed her poly too. She doesn't trust poly's because she thought she would pass her's. So why would she have a reaction when Shawn failed his? That never made any sense to me.



A lot of the information you have about Shawn and the masks have been discussed in the past few days. Also, the videos are posted in another thread under Hailey Dunn if you care to see them. We were shocked by it all too.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
So if Shawn said he was going to marry Billie on Jan 6 why are they seperated now?anyone know?

Supposedly she kicked him out after he failed his poly. Of course, she failed her poly too. She doesn't trust poly's because she thought she would pass her's. So why would she have a reaction when Shawn failed his? That never made any sense to me.



A lot of the information you have about Shawn and the masks have been discussed in the past few days. Also, the videos are posted in another thread under Hailey Dunn if you care to see them. We were shocked by it all too.

oh ok thanks, I will check that out.. sorry I just am tuning into it all I have been out of town with family again and out of the news for a while..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
Billie said she didn't know about his cell pings until she read it in the search warrant affadavits. It had come out previously that he left work early ( Monday 27th ) , she knew that but she thought he went to his Mum's and then had come home later.
no one has addressed the Tuesday. Did he get up and pretend to go to work ?
She went to work, found out Hailey had not made it back home, she went home ( co-worker drove her ) made some calls, and then her sister in law drove her to the police dept. I am not sure where Shawn was during this.
..
Now she is trying to find out what calls were made on her cell. Good luck with that as the password to get into the records is being sent to the cell which the police have. 
..
I also have a fairly good idea of who else failed their LDTs and who is one of the other suspects.
..
I thought she appeared out of it. Have we ever seen her not like that ? What is that condition ? 

My guess is drugs, lots of drugs.

You are right. Shawn's whereabouts on Tuesday have never been disclosed. I wonder why not.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 09:36:27 PM
So if Shawn said he was going to marry Billie on Jan 6 why are they seperated now?anyone know?

Supposedly she kicked him out after he failed his poly. Of course, she failed her poly too. She doesn't trust poly's because she thought she would pass her's. So why would she have a reaction when Shawn failed his? That never made any sense to me.



A lot of the information you have about Shawn and the masks have been discussed in the past few days. Also, the videos are posted in another thread under Hailey Dunn if you care to see them. We were shocked by it all too.

oh ok thanks, I will check that out.. sorry I just am tuning into it all I have been out of town with family again and out of the news for a while..

That's ok STAR. I just thought you might want to know.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:39:03 PM
Yes I did Fanny Mae   Thank you (Blush Blush)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 09:39:14 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332706

Grace: Investigators Need Body to Make Arrest

Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Tuesday, January 18 2011

Tuesday's episode of "Nancy Grace" on HLN again focused on the search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn. The Colorado City teen has been missing for more than 3 weeks.

During the broadcast, Grace noted that law enforcement needs to find a body or bodily fluid to make an arrest. The show also noted forensic testing was underway on bedsheets from Hailey's room.

These developments have all been previously confirmed by KTAB News and bigcountryhomepage.com. Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has been saying authorities need evidence of a crime to make an arrest. That evidence would include a body.

Grace also reported investigators were looking into whether Adkins had access to sulfuric acid at his job in Snyder. Adkins worked for WSI. Grace's reporters speculated that he might have used the acid to dispose of a body.

Grace and her panel of reporters and producers also discussed the alleged 2 p.m. text message that came from Billie Dunn's phone of the day of the disappearance. According to producers, the text read, "what are you doing?" Kampfer tells bigcountryhomepage.com they are looking at a text message, but he can't comment on the content of the message or when it was received.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:41:22 PM
StarMonkey..I like that ladies response to Shawn too..and she is correct in what she said to him..imo...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:45:56 PM
StarMonkey..I like that ladies response to Shawn too..and she is correct in what she said to him..imo...

Thanks Cookie, I couldnt agree more. Very suspicious! do you or anyone remember a post from Hailey re that she was afraid of Shawn and he would stop at her bedroom door at night? i think she was texting a friend telling them this..
  I cant remember where I read it at now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 18, 2011, 09:46:36 PM
StarMonkey..I like that ladies response to Shawn too..and she is correct in what she said to him..imo...

I agree.
Wonder if he'll respond.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 09:48:54 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332706

Grace: Investigators Need Body to Make Arrest

Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Tuesday, January 18 2011

Tuesday's episode of "Nancy Grace" on HLN again focused on the search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn. The Colorado City teen has been missing for more than 3 weeks.

During the broadcast, Grace noted that law enforcement needs to find a body or bodily fluid to make an arrest. The show also noted forensic testing was underway on bedsheets from Hailey's room.

These developments have all been previously confirmed by KTAB News and bigcountryhomepage.com. Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has been saying authorities need evidence of a crime to make an arrest. That evidence would include a body.

Grace also reported investigators were looking into whether Adkins had access to sulfuric acid at his job in Snyder. Adkins worked for WSI. Grace's reporters speculated that he might have used the acid to dispose of a body.

Grace and her panel of reporters and producers also discussed the alleged 2 p.m. text message that came from Billie Dunn's phone of the day of the disappearance. According to producers, the text read, "what are you doing?" Kampfer tells bigcountryhomepage.com they are looking at a text message, but he can't comment on the content of the message or when it was received.

From something Billie said previously on Nancy Grace, I got the impression the police didn't take those sheets right away. She said they had come back several times and took things after at first treating Hailey as a runaway. My question is, how many times could those sheets have been washed in the interim. I suspected one of the things Shawn was doing that day in a locked house was washing the sheets and cleaning up anything else. Those sheets may not have been the ones she went to bed on that Sunday night.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:49:09 PM
StarMonkey..I like that ladies response to Shawn too..and she is correct in what she said to him..imo...

Thanks Cookie, I couldnt agree more. Very suspicious! do you or anyone remember a post from Hailey re that she was afraid of Shawn and he would stop at her bedroom door at night? i think she was texting a friend telling them this..
  I cant remember where I read it at now.

actually, bio dad's mother, Hailey's grand mother said that on the NG show..Hailey supposedly told her grand mother that SA would pace at night and she could see him outside of her bedroom door..she was afraid of him..creepy isn't it?  grand mother should have done more at that time..should have told dad, should have had a talk with Billie..not that it would have done any good...Billie would probably not believe it..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:50:17 PM
Fanny..very true about the sheets and the cleaning up part..very true...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:52:45 PM
StarMonkey..I like that ladies response to Shawn too..and she is correct in what she said to him..imo...

Thanks Cookie, I couldnt agree more. Very suspicious! do you or anyone remember a post from Hailey re that she was afraid of Shawn and he would stop at her bedroom door at night? i think she was texting a friend telling them this..
  I cant remember where I read it at now.

actually, bio dad's mother, Hailey's grand mother said that on the NG show..Hailey supposedly told her grand mother that SA would pace at night and she could see him outside of her bedroom door..she was afraid of him..creepy isn't it?  grand mother should have done more at that time..should have told dad, should have had a talk with Billie..not that it would have done any good...Billie would probably not believe it..
I think she should have reported it atleast, sometimes just having someone confront someone like him could start opening the mothers eyes and could have possibly stopped him from doing something.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 09:52:53 PM
Fanny..very true about the sheets and the cleaning up part..very true...

And that is why I truly believe Billie knows things. Has seen things, has noticed things and not wanting to believe it, or is willing to cover for Shawn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:56:10 PM
Maybe though, Billie doesn't even want to believe it herself..that she brought this person into her daughter's life and now she is missing...
I think that she is stunned/shocked that someone that she loved could have harmed her daughter....that her trust and instincts were so bad that now her daughter may be paying the ultimate price..dunno...jmo..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: StarMonkey on January 18, 2011, 09:56:46 PM
Fanny..very true about the sheets and the cleaning up part..very true...

And that is why I truly believe Billie knows things. Has seen things, has noticed things and not wanting to believe it, or is willing to cover for Shawn.

I agree, her demeanor is very strange to me. The inconsistencies of the BF, just all does not add up. I cant believe she wouldnt ask him about the pings somehow! Email, wait for him to come out of the house. ect.. she didnt seem to concerned about the pings IMO no surprise to her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 18, 2011, 09:57:58 PM
her demeanor is very strange to me as well..
she isn't like a mother bear fighting for her cub that is for sure!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 10:04:39 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332706

Grace: Investigators Need Body to Make Arrest

Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Tuesday, January 18 2011

Tuesday's episode of "Nancy Grace" on HLN again focused on the search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn. The Colorado City teen has been missing for more than 3 weeks.

During the broadcast, Grace noted that law enforcement needs to find a body or bodily fluid to make an arrest. The show also noted forensic testing was underway on bedsheets from Hailey's room.

These developments have all been previously confirmed by KTAB News and bigcountryhomepage.com. Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has been saying authorities need evidence of a crime to make an arrest. That evidence would include a body.

Grace also reported investigators were looking into whether Adkins had access to sulfuric acid at his job in Snyder. Adkins worked for WSI. Grace's reporters speculated that he might have used the acid to dispose of a body.

Grace and her panel of reporters and producers also discussed the alleged 2 p.m. text message that came from Billie Dunn's phone of the day of the disappearance. According to producers, the text read, "what are you doing?" Kampfer tells bigcountryhomepage.com they are looking at a text message, but he can't comment on the content of the message or when it was received.

From something Billie said previously on Nancy Grace, I got the impression the police didn't take those sheets right away. She said they had come back several times and took things after at first treating Hailey as a runaway. My question is, how many times could those sheets have been washed in the interim. I suspected one of the things Shawn was doing that day in a locked house was washing the sheets and cleaning up anything else. Those sheets may not have been the ones she went to bed on that Sunday night.

I check each of the transcripts from the Nancy Grace Shows that had Billie Dunn as a guest.  The following quote is the only mention of sheets until tonight's show.

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Let`s go out to Billie Dunn. Why weren`t there sheets on her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: The investigators took her sheet off. I`d asked them to use the sheet for the dogs to get the scent, but I think they kept it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 10:19:10 PM
National Search Groups Get Involved In Search For Hailey Dunn (with video)

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Tuesday, three weeks since Hailey was first reported missing, two national search organizations, the KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center Foundation, got involved in the hunt.

This as Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer puts out an ad for two more police officers, to keep up the investigation.

There was a sense of renewed hope Tuesday, as the two search groups got involved.

The organizations have helped out in hundreds of cases and everyone's hope is that maybe they'll help here.

In a plea to local organizations Tuesday, KlaasKids Director of Search Operations Brad Dennis explained he's here to find Hailey.

Dennis has been involved in search and rescue for 26 years.

He says his job, is to come in, gather volunteers and train them how to effectively search for the missing teen, "To put some organization into this so that it is an effective way to monitor their (volunteer searchers) progress as well as provide feedback to law enforcement about that progress." explained Dennis.

KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center Foundation came to Colorado City after a call from Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn. "I think it was a point and time the family was desperate, desperate for more answers more involvement," said Dennis.

Billie has not talked to KTXS, since we released the affidavit information.

Again Tuesday, a family friend told us she was too busy to talk.

Others in the community came forward, showing enthusiasm that the national search organizations are involved.

Tuesday, both the Colorado City Kiwanis Club and The Lions Club pledged more than $1,000 dollars to help feed search volunteers.

Kitten Arthur, with the Lion's Club told KTXS they were happy to help, "You know the communities been absolutely wrecked by what's happened to Hailey and everyone has contributed so much, we'll do whatever we can to help find her."

Meanwhile law enforcement are following any and all leads.

Tuesday afternoon on Interstate 20 near Mile Marker 281, officers collected evidence after a tip from volunteer searchers.

We later were told the evidence may not amount to anything.


To keep up the investigation, Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer is hiring two new police officers, to be paid for out of the city's budget, "So that we can make sure nothing falls through the cracks, or that we don't have insufficient manpower to continue the investigation."

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26532721/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 10:20:19 PM
Spokesman: Evidence 'may have' been found at Abilene landfill in case of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn


Colorado City – The search of the Abilene landfill last week may or may not have turned up evidence involved in the Hailey Dunn case, said Pete Kampfer, city manager in Colorado City and a spokesman for the task force.

“You can say they may have found evidence,” Kampfer said adding that there has been no confirmation by task force officials whether anything was found during the search of the Allied Waste Services landfill last Thursday and Friday.

About a dozen officers from the Abilene Police Department searched through debris and cadaver dogs, trained in locating human remains, were on the scene as well.

The search for Dunn, a 13-year-old cheerleader is primarily a criminal investigation Kampfer said.

“But we are still looking at the missing person aspect of the case,” he said.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 10:21:39 PM
National Foundations Call For Volunteers To Help Search Wednesday

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The KlaasKids Foundation and the Laura Recovery Center Foundation are working together, and asking for volunteers to help get out and search for missing teen Hailey Dunn.

The two groups arrived in Colorado City Tuesday afternoon, more than 3 weeks after the teen was last seen.

After meeting with family and law enforcement, they plan to start training volunteers and begin an organized search Wednesday.

Though volunteers have been out searching for weeks now, the two national groups hope to combine resources and train volunteers on how to search areas, and what to do if they find anything. They also want to teach them how to keep in contact with law enforcement, so that volunteers are covering as much ground as possible.

If you want to volunteer, you are asked to meet at the Colorado City Civic Center Wednesday morning at 10 a.m.

KlaasKids requires you to be over the age of 18 to help, that you provide photo I.D, and they ask you to dress appropriately.

They say they will spend time training and then head out to begin searching for Hailey Dunn.

Also, if anyone would like to donate water or food to volunteers, you can drop donations off at the Colorado Civic Center Wednesday morning as well

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26532786/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 10:23:10 PM
KlaasKids sets up operations in Colorado City Civic Center in search for Hailey Dunn


Officials from the KlaasKids Search Center began setting up local operations at the Colorado City Civic Center this afternoon to assist in the hunt for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, who has been missing for more than three weeks.

Brad Dennis, director of the search center for the KlaasKids Foundation, arrived Monday night. Today, he has been meeting with law enforcement officials and Dunn’s family to coordinate the search efforts.

“We are going to manage the search,” Dennis said of volunteer efforts to find the teen. “Then we will be training local people to do what we do.”

All volunteers will be asked to register at the Civic Center starting at 10 a.m. Wednesday. Dennis said that all volunteers must show identification, be in good health and be dressed appropriately for the environment.

The KlaasKids Foundation was started by Marc Klaas in 1994 after the abduction and murder of his daughter Polly and is dedicated to assisting with searches for missing children.

Dennis, a retired Navy master chief petty officer, has managed search efforts for more than 60 missing children across the country.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/klaaskids-sets-operations-colorado-city-civic-cent/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 18, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
Witness: Boy Spotted with Dunn on Day of Disappearance (with video)

A woman who lives around the corner from Hailey Dunn said she saw her with an unfamiliar boy on December 27th, the last day anyone saw her.

Jean Burroughs watched Hailey and her brother grow up.

"David and her were always together, and they always played with my grandkids," she said.

She said she saw Hailey walk past her beauty salon on 19th Street in Colorado City countless times. However, on December 27th, she claims she saw Hailey walking with a six or seven-year-old boy she didn't recognize.

"That's why I was looking at her so strong when she was going down the alley, trying to figure out if I knew that kid. But I didn't know him," she said.

Burroughs claims she watched the pair walk down the alley that leads to the Dunns between 10:30 a.m. and 1:00 that afternoon.

Billie Dunn mentioned Burroughs on the Nancy Grace Show Monday night.

"There's also another lady, Jean Burroughs, a neighbor of ours whose grandchildren grew up with our kids. She says she saw her Monday," Dunn said.

If the sighting is confirmed, it would debunk any theory that Shawn Adkins took Hailey the morning of December 27th.

Cell phone records show Adkins' cell phone pinging from Big Spring from just after 9:30 a.m. until 2:40 p.m. that day.

Jean said she has no idea what could have happened to the 13-year-old, but she's keeping the Dunn family in her prayers.

Police haven't said much about the little boy who was with Hailey that day.  Burroughs said investigators told her he was too young to be considered a valid witness.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332696


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 10:27:18 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332706

Grace: Investigators Need Body to Make Arrest

Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Tuesday, January 18 2011

Tuesday's episode of "Nancy Grace" on HLN again focused on the search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn. The Colorado City teen has been missing for more than 3 weeks.

During the broadcast, Grace noted that law enforcement needs to find a body or bodily fluid to make an arrest. The show also noted forensic testing was underway on bedsheets from Hailey's room.

These developments have all been previously confirmed by KTAB News and bigcountryhomepage.com. Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has been saying authorities need evidence of a crime to make an arrest. That evidence would include a body.

Grace also reported investigators were looking into whether Adkins had access to sulfuric acid at his job in Snyder. Adkins worked for WSI. Grace's reporters speculated that he might have used the acid to dispose of a body.

Grace and her panel of reporters and producers also discussed the alleged 2 p.m. text message that came from Billie Dunn's phone of the day of the disappearance. According to producers, the text read, "what are you doing?" Kampfer tells bigcountryhomepage.com they are looking at a text message, but he can't comment on the content of the message or when it was received.

From something Billie said previously on Nancy Grace, I got the impression the police didn't take those sheets right away. She said they had come back several times and took things after at first treating Hailey as a runaway. My question is, how many times could those sheets have been washed in the interim. I suspected one of the things Shawn was doing that day in a locked house was washing the sheets and cleaning up anything else. Those sheets may not have been the ones she went to bed on that Sunday night.

I check each of the transcripts from the Nancy Grace Shows that had Billie Dunn as a guest.  The following quote is the only mention of sheets until tonight's show.

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Let`s go out to Billie Dunn. Why weren`t there sheets on her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: The investigators took her sheet off. I`d asked them to use the sheet for the dogs to get the scent, but I think they kept it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html




I know. That is why I don't think the LE took them right away. Someone on the thread said something about the sheets not being on the bed when we first saw the pictures of her bedroom. But we have no real idea when the pictures were taken. I think they were taken by a news crew some time after the failed poly. Billie did say tonight she hadn't noticed they had been taken right away. That's why her statement about asking to keep them for the dogs made no sense. I am not sure when the dogs were first used to track Hailey. I am also wondering if cadaver dogs were ever used inside the house before the sheets were taken.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 10:37:09 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332706

Grace: Investigators Need Body to Make Arrest

Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Tuesday, January 18 2011

Tuesday's episode of "Nancy Grace" on HLN again focused on the search for 13-year-old Hailey Dunn. The Colorado City teen has been missing for more than 3 weeks.

During the broadcast, Grace noted that law enforcement needs to find a body or bodily fluid to make an arrest. The show also noted forensic testing was underway on bedsheets from Hailey's room.

These developments have all been previously confirmed by KTAB News and bigcountryhomepage.com. Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has been saying authorities need evidence of a crime to make an arrest. That evidence would include a body.

Grace also reported investigators were looking into whether Adkins had access to sulfuric acid at his job in Snyder. Adkins worked for WSI. Grace's reporters speculated that he might have used the acid to dispose of a body.

Grace and her panel of reporters and producers also discussed the alleged 2 p.m. text message that came from Billie Dunn's phone of the day of the disappearance. According to producers, the text read, "what are you doing?" Kampfer tells bigcountryhomepage.com they are looking at a text message, but he can't comment on the content of the message or when it was received.

From something Billie said previously on Nancy Grace, I got the impression the police didn't take those sheets right away. She said they had come back several times and took things after at first treating Hailey as a runaway. My question is, how many times could those sheets have been washed in the interim. I suspected one of the things Shawn was doing that day in a locked house was washing the sheets and cleaning up anything else. Those sheets may not have been the ones she went to bed on that Sunday night.
Just curious, but is Luminol still used by investigators? What might be the protocol to use this substance? For instance if they suspect something happened at Billie's home could forensics go in with Luminol? I know very little about the use of luminol and wondered if they did Luminol testing at the home if this might move this case along. I guess I just wonder what ole' Shawn was up to when he was caught "like a deer in headlights" when DD came through the window......


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 10:42:38 PM
GRACE: To Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother joining us live there in her home. Billie, what did cops tell you about taking Hailey`s bed sheets?

DUNN: I just know when they came in and searched the house, they took a few things, which they`re more than welcome to take any and everything they need. I didn`t notice the sheet was missing for a couple of days. I did tell them to take it for the hounds, but, yes, they kept it and they can keep it, get anything they need.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 10:44:43 PM
GRACE: To Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother joining us live there in her home. Billie, what did cops tell you about taking Hailey`s bed sheets?

DUNN: I just know when they came in and searched the house, they took a few things, which they`re more than welcome to take any and everything they need. I didn`t notice the sheet was missing for a couple of days. I did tell them to take it for the hounds, but, yes, they kept it and they can keep it, get anything they need.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html

This was from tonight NANCY GRACE SHOW.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 10:57:12 PM
I believe that location that the 2:00 PM text originated is the the catalyst that will  reveal Shawn's guilt or innocence.

Janet

++++++

The December 27th 2:00 PM Text Message

NANCY GRACE
Mystery Text in Missing Hailey Dunn Case
Aired January 18, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: And back to you, Alexis Weed. The pings off the boyfriend`s cell phone -- and everybody, I`m just asking questions about this live-in boyfriend. He`s now moved out. Billie Dunn told him to leave. He has apparently cut off contact to her. I`m not saying he`s the only person that should be looked at, but I`ve got a lot of questions about his behavior.

Alexis Weed, I want to talk very quickly -- let me see the map, Liz, of the pings. Do the pings tell us where he was at 2:00 PM that day?

WEED: They tell us that between the hours of 9:38 in the morning and 2:40 in the afternoon, that Shawn Adkins was pinging around the Big Spring, Texas, area. That`s where his grandmother lives. But before that, Nancy, between the hours of 6:35 and 6:56 in the morning, that`s when he was pinging around Colorado City where Hailey`s -- Hailey`s home is located.

GRACE: So at 2:40 PM, I`ve still got him at his mother`s house, right?

WEED: Right.

GRACE: Now, question. Back to you, Jean Casarez. Let`s talk about this 2:00 PM text from Hailey`s phone. Where did it ping? Where did it ping?

CASAREZ: That`s very interesting. Where did it ping from? We don`t know.

GRACE: Because, listen, you see where I`m going, Jean.

CASAREZ: Yes, I do.

GRACE: If the boyfriend had Hailey`s phone and he was faking that text, this innocuous, generic text, What are you doing, to a little friend of hers, he could have gotten that friend`s name out of the phone directory, if she had it in the -- it was a disposable phone. How do I know he didn`t send that? And if he did, where was he? If he was at his mom`s until 2:40, did that cell ping, that text ping from where his mother lived? Because if it did, he`s in a lot of trouble, Jean.

CASAREZ: That`s right. And otherwise, if it didn`t, if it pinged from the home in Colorado City, then maybe little Hailey Dunn was alive at that point.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 18, 2011, 10:58:24 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 11:00:28 PM
National Search Groups Get Involved In Search For Hailey Dunn (with video)

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Tuesday, three weeks since Hailey was first reported missing, two national search organizations, the KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center Foundation, got involved in the hunt.

This as Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer puts out an ad for two more police officers, to keep up the investigation.

There was a sense of renewed hope Tuesday, as the two search groups got involved.

The organizations have helped out in hundreds of cases and everyone's hope is that maybe they'll help here.

In a plea to local organizations Tuesday, KlaasKids Director of Search Operations Brad Dennis explained he's here to find Hailey.

Dennis has been involved in search and rescue for 26 years.

He says his job, is to come in, gather volunteers and train them how to effectively search for the missing teen, "To put some organization into this so that it is an effective way to monitor their (volunteer searchers) progress as well as provide feedback to law enforcement about that progress." explained Dennis.

KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center Foundation came to Colorado City after a call from Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn. "I think it was a point and time the family was desperate, desperate for more answers more involvement," said Dennis.

Billie has not talked to KTXS, since we released the affidavit information.

Again Tuesday, a family friend told us she was too busy to talk.

Others in the community came forward, showing enthusiasm that the national search organizations are involved.

Tuesday, both the Colorado City Kiwanis Club and The Lions Club pledged more than $1,000 dollars to help feed search volunteers.

Kitten Arthur, with the Lion's Club told KTXS they were happy to help, "You know the communities been absolutely wrecked by what's happened to Hailey and everyone has contributed so much, we'll do whatever we can to help find her."

Meanwhile law enforcement are following any and all leads.

Tuesday afternoon on Interstate 20 near Mile Marker 281, officers collected evidence after a tip from volunteer searchers.

We later were told the evidence may not amount to anything.


To keep up the investigation, Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer is hiring two new police officers, to be paid for out of the city's budget, "So that we can make sure nothing falls through the cracks, or that we don't have insufficient manpower to continue the investigation."

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26532721/detail.html

See, this is what has worried me about the unsupervised searchers. I know they mean well, and they have tried very hard and have been out there every day. They should be commended and not criticized.  But what if someone compromised evidence? Or God forbid, someone who is a friend of Shawn's is out there trying to find something to hide for him? It's just a big old area all around there, and lots of places to hide things.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 11:01:58 PM
GRACE: To Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother joining us live there in her home. Billie, what did cops tell you about taking Hailey`s bed sheets?

DUNN: I just know when they came in and searched the house, they took a few things, which they`re more than welcome to take any and everything they need. I didn`t notice the sheet was missing for a couple of days. I did tell them to take it for the hounds, but, yes, they kept it and they can keep it, get anything they need.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html

The above January 18th words of Billie regarding the sheet is consistence with what she revealed to Nancy Grace on January 13th.

I also wish it was known when that LE took that sheet.  Does anyone know when the house was searched?  Thanks.

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Let`s go out to Billie Dunn. Why weren`t there sheets on her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: The investigators took her sheet off. I`d asked them to use the sheet for the dogs to get the scent, but I think they kept it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 11:03:22 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??

(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/thomg-1.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 11:06:06 PM
GRACE: To Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother joining us live there in her home. Billie, what did cops tell you about taking Hailey`s bed sheets?

DUNN: I just know when they came in and searched the house, they took a few things, which they`re more than welcome to take any and everything they need. I didn`t notice the sheet was missing for a couple of days. I did tell them to take it for the hounds, but, yes, they kept it and they can keep it, get anything they need.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html

The above January 18th words of Billie regarding the sheet is consistence with what she revealed to Nancy Grace on January 13th.

I also wish it was known when that LE took that sheet.  Does anyone know when the house was searched?  Thanks.

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Let`s go out to Billie Dunn. Why weren`t there sheets on her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: The investigators took her sheet off. I`d asked them to use the sheet for the dogs to get the scent, but I think they kept it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


On Nancy Grace one night she said the police had searched her house several times. No, I don't remember what night. Should I say to the best of my memory?  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 18, 2011, 11:07:54 PM
I asked this question before, but no one answered...thinking "we just don't know the answer".

Do we know if LE has searched Billie's house with cadaver dogs (especially, Hailey's bed)?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 11:14:11 PM
I asked this question before, but no one answered...thinking "we just don't know the answer".

Do we know if LE has searched Billie's house with cadaver dogs (especially, Hailey's bed)?



I don't think we know. I have asked myself. Just so many unanswered questions.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 18, 2011, 11:18:01 PM
hmmm.. I think that Billie just messed up again..NG asked her when she saw Hailey last ..she says that she saw her around 10 or 11 in her bed and she was watching tv!! before, she said that she peeked in on her to "ease her mind" didn't touch her or anything, but peaked in on her...No mention that Hailey was watching tv at that time! and if your kid was still awake when you went in their room, or even before they went to bed, don't you tell your kid good night?? She messed up another story..she is good at doing that!

I believe I have this right:

Before Billie said she looked in on Hailey around 10:00 p.m. and Hailey was watching TV, and the next morning she peeked in Hailey's room and it looked like Hailey was asleep in bed, but that she didn't go over and touch her.  (I took that last bit about not touching Hailey as a response to previous questions from LE - I saw her in bed and LE asking did you go over and touch her and Billie said no.)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 18, 2011, 11:19:25 PM
I really don't know how Billie ever obtained her nursing license..she seems very slow and dense to me..sure wouldn't want her administering an iv to me! she would probably forget what she was supposed to put in there!

I don't know what Billie's drug history was before Shawn, but I have not a doubt in my mind that drugs played a big part of their relationship for the past two and a half years. The addiction of drugs and the addiction to Shawn would make her do many things she may not do before. She may have been a good nurse previously, but not renewing her license was probably one of many things she let go because of her addictions. The way she acts on TV she seems totally stoned to me. JMO

If that's true, then Billie did a good thing by non-renewing her nurses license. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 18, 2011, 11:19:53 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332786

Colorado City, TX -   KTAB News has obtained 911 calls made in February 2010 related to a domestic dispute during which, according to police affidavits, Shawn Adkins allegedly threatened to kill 13-year-old Hailey Dunn and her mother.
Adkins is the boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Dunn, and the only confirmed suspect in the girl’s disappearance. According to police, Adkins was the last person to see Hailey on December 27: the day she went missing.

According to search warrant affidavits filed after Hailey's disappearance, Adkins admitted to investigators that he threatened the lives of both Billie and Hailey during a domestic dispute.

The three 911 calls, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, refer to threats made against Billie and her estranged husband, Clint, but not against Hailey.

In the first call, made to Colorado City police at approximately 11:30 a.m. on Feb. 14, Billie Dunn told a dispatcher that she was at work in Snyder and feared Adkins was going to enter her home and take something.

Dunn: “My boyfriend and I just broke up yesterday, but he’s saying that he’s going to go in my house and get his t-shirt and I don’t want him in there while I’m gone because I don’t know what he’ll take. I don’t trust him enough to go in there."

Dunn went on to tell dispatchers that she feared Adkins could take a television or her son’s X-Box. Dunn also revealed that she rarely locked the windows or doors.

The dispatcher told Dunn that it was not possible for an officer to stand by her house all day, but said she would inform police.

Three and a half hours later, Dunn made a second call to 911 claiming Adkins threatened her life.

Dunn: “I broke up with this guy a couple days ago and he’s a little ‘MHMR.' He’s telling me that he’s going to kill me and my ex-husband. And it’s going to be remembered for a long time.”

Dunn said Adkins made the repeated threats via text message.

“I texted back just to try and calm him down a little, but he said it’s going to happen.”

In a second portion of the call released to KTAB News, the dispatcher is heard telling the officer that it was Dunn making the request for assistance.

“(She has) been going all day,” the officer replied.

The third call was made from a Snyder police officer to Colorado City police around 4:30 p.m. on the same day, informing dispatchers that he had received a call from Adkins.

Officer: “We got a call over here from her boyfriend say that she’s possible suicidal, threatening to take a bunch of pills."

Dispatcher: “We’ve been having a big problem with those two all day.”

The affidavits signed on Jan. 7 say Adkins originally told authorities that he never threatened Hailey during the dispute, but that he then admitting to threaten the lives of both Hailey and Billie.



Click here to listen to the first 911 call made by Billie Dunn on 02/14/10

Click here to listen to the second 911 call made by Billie Dunn on 02/14/10


Click here to listen a 911 call made from Snyder PD to Colorado City PD about the Dunn/Adkins domestic dispute









Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 18, 2011, 11:21:06 PM
GRACE: To Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother joining us live there in her home. Billie, what did cops tell you about taking Hailey`s bed sheets?

DUNN: I just know when they came in and searched the house, they took a few things, which they`re more than welcome to take any and everything they need. I didn`t notice the sheet was missing for a couple of days. I did tell them to take it for the hounds, but, yes, they kept it and they can keep it, get anything they need.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html

The above January 18th words of Billie regarding the sheet is consistence with what she revealed to Nancy Grace on January 13th.

I also wish it was known when that LE took that sheet.  Does anyone know when the house was searched?  Thanks.

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Let`s go out to Billie Dunn. Why weren`t there sheets on her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: The investigators took her sheet off. I`d asked them to use the sheet for the dogs to get the scent, but I think they kept it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


On Nancy Grace one night she said the police had searched her house several times. No, I don't remember what night. Should I say to the best of my memory?  ::MonkeyDevil::

Link Please.

 ::MonkeyTongue::

A Scrabble game awaits.  Eleven and twelve year old homeschooled grandsons were just dropped off.  Papa and Mama are TOC's (teachers on call) tomorrow.  Scrabble is not their favorite game but in their desperation to avoid having to hit the sack ... they will  indulge me.

Maybe tomorrow is the day when answers will be forthcoming regarding what happened to Hailey.  I hope so.

Good Night Monkeys.

Janet
8:20 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 18, 2011, 11:22:13 PM
I believe that on the morning of December 27th prior to leaving the home for work ... Billie may have viewed the form of her deceased daughter.

Janet

+++++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked look she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html



oh..I see...thanks for clearing that up for me Janet..
but still, if you go look in your child's room at bedtime, don't you say good night to them? course maybe she did and just didn't mention that part..

Sorry, I didn't see this post before I replied similarly.

One thing I've noticed...at first I thought Billie seems a little slow to respond...but now I'm thinking that there's a delay in Billie hearing what NG says, so by the time Billie starts answering, NG cuts her off.  Grrrr.....I wish NG would let Billie make a complete sentence or two...we just might learn a little more.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 18, 2011, 11:22:59 PM
OK........I am listening to the 911 calls, they are out!!!!!!!! Link in my post above


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: nicubird on January 18, 2011, 11:32:39 PM
I really don't know how Billie ever obtained her nursing license..she seems very slow and dense to me..sure wouldn't want her administering an iv to me! she would probably forget what she was supposed to put in there!

I don't know what Billie's drug history was before Shawn, but I have not a doubt in my mind that drugs played a big part of their relationship for the past two and a half years. The addiction of drugs and the addiction to Shawn would make her do many things she may not do before. She may have been a good nurse previously, but not renewing her license was probably one of many things she let go because of her addictions. The way she acts on TV she seems totally stoned to me. JMO

If that's true, then Billie did a good thing by non-renewing her nurses license. 

Actually since Billie continued to work after her license expired, she did not do a good thing...she did a criminal thing. The state board of nursing did a good thing when they forced her to stop working illegally. It is a criminal infraction in all 50 states to work even one day on an expired license.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 11:36:21 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??
WTH??? THUD!!! (that would be the sound of my jaw hitting the floor again, LOL)
This is like a bad soap opera......
Thanks for the new info Island!! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 18, 2011, 11:41:59 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??
WTH??? THUD!!! (that would be the sound of my jaw hitting the floor again, LOL)
This is like a bad soap opera......
Thanks for the new info Island!! ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL~I don't know if it's true, just a rumored local........did you hear the 911 calls, odd IMO..sounds like LE knew this couple quite well. Poor Hailey and DD ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 18, 2011, 11:43:35 PM
OK........I am listening to the 911 calls, they are out!!!!!!!! Link in my post above

Wow...see how easily it is to get something wrong - even for LE?  Billie's call she says Shawn is threatening to kill both her and her ex-husband.  Then, the LEO says Billie said her ex-husband is trying to kill her.  Just one person -made that error...not after the information had gone through several people.

And, the officer on duty - what and attitude!  HA!  His and his attitude are exposed to the world now.  I would hope that I never get an officer like that if I were having to report any trouble!



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 18, 2011, 11:47:23 PM
911 calls from February 2010

Call 1
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617046

Call 2
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617056

Call 3
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617096


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 18, 2011, 11:49:29 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??
This one?

Name:    Jaguars Gentlemen's Club
Address:    3437 W Interstate 40
City, State:    Amarillo, TX
Zip:    79109
Telephone:    806-351-0999
http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club (http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club)

or this one? Do you know the town?

Jaguars Gold Club

formerly Boom Boom Cabaret

12913 US 87 (US-87 & 227)

Lubbock, TX

phone: (806) 748-1916


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 18, 2011, 11:50:05 PM
I really don't know how Billie ever obtained her nursing license..she seems very slow and dense to me..sure wouldn't want her administering an iv to me! she would probably forget what she was supposed to put in there!

I don't know what Billie's drug history was before Shawn, but I have not a doubt in my mind that drugs played a big part of their relationship for the past two and a half years. The addiction of drugs and the addiction to Shawn would make her do many things she may not do before. She may have been a good nurse previously, but not renewing her license was probably one of many things she let go because of her addictions. The way she acts on TV she seems totally stoned to me. JMO

If that's true, then Billie did a good thing by non-renewing her nurses license. 

Actually since Billie continued to work after her license expired, she did not do a good thing...she did a criminal thing. The state board of nursing did a good thing when they forced her to stop working illegally. It is a criminal infraction in all 50 states to work even one day on an expired license.

nicubird - you're correct!  Billie was bad for working while her licensed was expired.

The state board did a good think when they forced her to stop working illegally.

BUT - the hospital admin and/or whomever is responsible, FAILED when they didn't stop Billie from working immediately after her license was expired.  I'm sure "someone" must have the responsibility for making sure their employees have valid licenses at all times. 

Even though Billie was bad in working on an expired license...thank goodness she didn't get it renewed - since she was taking drugs. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 18, 2011, 11:52:50 PM
What does a little "MHMR" mean, please?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 18, 2011, 11:58:12 PM
What does a little "MHMR" mean, please?

I'd like to know too.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 12:02:06 AM
::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??
This one?

Name:    Jaguars Gentlemen's Club
Address:    3437 W Interstate 40
City, State:    Amarillo, TX
Zip:    79109
Telephone:    806-351-0999
http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club (http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club)

or this one? Do you know the town?

Jaguars Gold Club

formerly Boom Boom Cabaret

12913 US 87 (US-87 & 227)

Lubbock, TX

phone: (806) 748-1916

Sorry~I am popping in and out tonight, I read Abiline?

Also MHMR, someone thought it was mental health mental retardation (still guessing)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:03:55 AM
::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??
This one?

Name:    Jaguars Gentlemen's Club
Address:    3437 W Interstate 40
City, State:    Amarillo, TX
Zip:    79109
Telephone:    806-351-0999
http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club (http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club)

or this one? Do you know the town?

Jaguars Gold Club

formerly Boom Boom Cabaret

12913 US 87 (US-87 & 227)

Lubbock, TX

phone: (806) 748-1916

Amarillo would be a tad far. 231 miles.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 19, 2011, 12:04:05 AM
What does a little "MHMR" mean, please?

MHMR is Mental health and Mental Retardation (services).  In other words, she's saying that he's mentally ill.

When were these 911 calls?  Because if she is saying that he's mentally ill, and yet she let him back into her life when she has a baby girl....  then she's even WORSE than just knowing he was a jerk that made threats!

I wonder what's up with her supposed suicide threats?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:06:24 AM
::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??
This one?

Name:    Jaguars Gentlemen's Club
Address:    3437 W Interstate 40
City, State:    Amarillo, TX
Zip:    79109
Telephone:    806-351-0999
http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club (http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club)

or this one? Do you know the town?

Jaguars Gold Club

formerly Boom Boom Cabaret

12913 US 87 (US-87 & 227)

Lubbock, TX

phone: (806) 748-1916

Amarillo would be a tad far. 231 miles.

Lubbock 111 miles


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:07:33 AM
What does a little "MHMR" mean, please?

MHMR is Mental health and Mental Retardation (services).  In other words, she's saying that he's mentally ill.

When were these 911 calls?  Because if she is saying that he's mentally ill, and yet she let him back into her life when she has a baby girl....  then she's even WORSE than just knowing he was a jerk that made threats!

I wonder what's up with her supposed suicide threats?

I guess the plot thickens...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: nicubird on January 19, 2011, 12:15:30 AM

nicubird - you're correct!  Billie was bad for working while her licensed was expired.

The state board did a good think when they forced her to stop working illegally.

BUT - the hospital admin and/or whomever is responsible, FAILED when they didn't stop Billie from working immediately after her license was expired.  I'm sure "someone" must have the responsibility for making sure their employees have valid licenses at all times. 

Even though Billie was bad in working on an expired license...thank goodness she didn't get it renewed - since she was taking drugs. 

I'm not giving the facility a pass on this one (more than likely long term care or group home since hospitals are typically meticulous in this detail); however, the only point I am trying to make is that of Billie's character. All nurses are acutely aware of their renewal dates and all nurses know that onus relies squarely on the nurse to uphold the laws that define the practice of nursing. No nurse with integrity would criminally violate those laws even if the facility were negligent in verifying the license. Billie displays concrete identifiable dishonesty. I do not trust her. She may not have anything to do with Hailey's disappearance, but it is my opinion she cannot be trusted. Obviously, as a professional nurse, I have a very clear cut and unforgiving perspective.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 19, 2011, 12:18:54 AM
Hi Monkeys!  ::HelloKitty::

Puzzler, I'm having trouble quoting posts with this computer, but you're right about someone within the hospital keeping up with current licensures. Usually, it's the person who keeps personell files for employees. Some facilities pay for license renewal for their employees, and others don't, but all should keep up with expiration dates. The hospital itself is at risk for allowing unlicensed staff to perform within the scope of practice of licensed staff, so they are supposed to keep up with it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cw618 on January 19, 2011, 12:20:49 AM
you believe this,man didnt someone ask about the LE there b4
dont know if this officer would help or hinder, with his attitude
call#2
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617056


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 19, 2011, 12:21:34 AM
Hailey was at risk.  Why did Billie not get it?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

++++++

Shawn Threatened Hailey

Authorities Step Up Search for Missing Texas Cheerleader
Published January 18, 2011


The affidavit also notes that in February 2010, police responded to a domestic violence call at the house. Adkins allegedly threatened to kill Billie and Hailey Dunn during a heated argument. After telling police he never issued these threats, he later allegedly confessed to police that he threatened the two.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/13/authorities-step-search-missing-texas-cheerleader/?test=latestnews


Shawn Frightened Hailey

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said that he`d go in the bathroom and he`d use Billie`s phone and talk to people and then come out and just stand by her door. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Just an opinion, but I do not think Billie is very bright. I think she is also a very vulnerable person and easily manipulated. This is based on what I see from her and her letting such a man into her and her childrens lives.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 19, 2011, 12:22:36 AM

nicubird - you're correct!  Billie was bad for working while her licensed was expired.

The state board did a good think when they forced her to stop working illegally.

BUT - the hospital admin and/or whomever is responsible, FAILED when they didn't stop Billie from working immediately after her license was expired.  I'm sure "someone" must have the responsibility for making sure their employees have valid licenses at all times. 

Even though Billie was bad in working on an expired license...thank goodness she didn't get it renewed - since she was taking drugs. 

I'm not giving the facility a pass on this one (more than likely long term care or group home since hospitals are typically meticulous in this detail); however, the only point I am trying to make is that of Billie's character. All nurses are acutely aware of their renewal dates and all nurses know that onus relies squarely on the nurse to uphold the laws that define the practice of nursing. No nurse with integrity would criminally violate those laws even if the facility were negligent in verifying the license. Billie displays concrete identifiable dishonesty. I do not trust her. She may not have anything to do with Hailey's disappearance, but it is my opinion she cannot be trusted. Obviously, as a professional nurse, I have a very clear cut and unforgiving perspective.

nicubird - I totally agree with you about the integrity of Billie wrt her license.  It's one thing to let a license expire - it's another thing to keep on working like everything's fine - especially, just in case you didn't realize a license expired, I'm sure she was reminded by the State in writing.  Yet, Billie kept working.  I'm very surprised to learn that the only thing that happened was that her licenses was revoked.  Do we even know if she got "fired" after that?  Or did she just find another job?

nicubird - we all hope and pray that the nurses attending to us and our loved ones have, like you do, a very clear-cut and unforgiving perspective against such criminal actions as working as a nurse on an expired license.

Please keep up the good work that you do.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:24:09 AM
CAUTION!!!!!  XXX! I am only posting this to show where it is.


((edit to remove link - nudity))
126 S. Access Rd. I-20   
Abilene, Texas
Map is approximate   
325-691-5647
Jaguars Gold Club Website

Sun - Thurs 5p-2a Fri & Sat 5p-4a
Club Type: Nude   
Dancer Ethnicity: Mixed


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 19, 2011, 12:27:51 AM
For whatever it's worth, I have a small medical clinic and we even keep up with Continuing Education requirements for all medical staff, and even register them for seminars, etc. to BE SURE they maintain their licenses! Maybe that spoils them, but it's really in our own interest.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 19, 2011, 12:29:30 AM
Hi Monkeys!  ::HelloKitty::

Puzzler, I'm having trouble quoting posts with this computer, but you're right about someone within the hospital keeping up with current licensures. Usually, it's the person who keeps personell files for employees. Some facilities pay for license renewal for their employees, and others don't, but all should keep up with expiration dates. The hospital itself is at risk for allowing unlicensed staff to perform within the scope of practice of licensed staff, so they are supposed to keep up with it.

I agree that Billie is "responsible" for keeping her license valid.  BUT, the facility she worked at has a "responsibility" for not letting employees work on expired licenses.  I mean...what if Billie made an error with a patient while working with an expired license and it became a big deal, with a law suit, etc.  The facility would surely be brought into the lawsuit for allowing a nurse to work there with an expired license.  I would think that would be big trouble for the facility.

Do we know if the facility "fired" Billie?  Or whether she resigned?  Does she work at a different facility now?  I know she works as a secretary now.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 19, 2011, 12:29:33 AM
::MonkeyShocked::

No clue how to verify, but at WS there is a local stating that it is a FACT that Billie was a "dancer" at Jaguars Gentleman's Club......any locals to verify or deny??
This one?

Name:    Jaguars Gentlemen's Club
Address:    3437 W Interstate 40
City, State:    Amarillo, TX
Zip:    79109
Telephone:    806-351-0999
http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club (http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/128262/Amarillo/Jaguars-Gentlemens-Club)

or this one? Do you know the town?

Jaguars Gold Club

formerly Boom Boom Cabaret

12913 US 87 (US-87 & 227)

Lubbock, TX

phone: (806) 748-1916

Amarillo would be a tad far. 231 miles.
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::heck, I might need to hide my Drivers license too Fanny trying to keep all this stuff straight.....pheew.... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:30:57 AM
CAUTION!!!!!  XXX! I am only posting this to show where it is.


((edit to remove link due to nudity))   
126 S. Access Rd. I-20   
Abilene, Texas
Map is approximate   
325-691-5647
Jaguars Gold Club Website

Sun - Thurs 5p-2a Fri & Sat 5p-4a
Club Type: Nude   
Dancer Ethnicity: Mixed
KLAAS! I'm not in trouble am I??? ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 19, 2011, 12:36:04 AM
The problem with those links are the ads that come along with them.  I removed the link  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:37:22 AM
The problem with those links are the ads that come along with them.  I removed the link  ::MonkeyCool::

I started to leave the link off. Thanks! Whew!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:38:43 AM
The problem with those links are the ads that come along with them.  I removed the link  ::MonkeyCool::

I started to leave the link off. Thanks! Whew!!!

You should have seen the real website.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 19, 2011, 12:39:22 AM
Can't quote, but again, you're right, Puzzler. Lawsuit concerns drive facilities to take a role in making sure licensures are current. It's one of the sure things an inspector asks for documentation of as soon as they walk in. Beyond lawsuits, if a lapse is found, Medicare and Medicaid will reclaim all paid claims that the unlicensed staff had anything to do with. Think about that........ if a nurse so much as checked vitals on a patient, the facility will be paying back any money paid for services to that patient provided by anyone. That adds up really quickly!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 12:42:04 AM
Did anyone else notice on the 911 call, Billie stated that Shawn had left it there when he stayed the night, so surely he WAS possibly living there on and off......then I did notice the order of how she relayed what she was worried about, TV, X-BOX and then that her son might be there..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


WRT licensing~I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse and I have to keep my CE credits up yearly also, if I don't I am forbidden to take a trade. Also, for every state that I have an account in I also have to be registered, in fact the home office took TX off of my registrations in mid 2009 and we don't know why, I did a trade and an alert went out ASAP, we had to bust the trade and re-register in TX. I knew one person who actually went to jail for this ::MonkeyEek::

So, I am responsible but my company has the ultimate responsibility in the licensing processes.....and we don't work with sick patients just money.......how scary is it that she was practicing for a full yr before it was revoked~the SEC, NASD and every other regulatory agency would be all over my company for a slip like this. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 19, 2011, 12:44:49 AM
Hailey was at risk.  Why did Billie not get it?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

++++++

Shawn Threatened Hailey

Authorities Step Up Search for Missing Texas Cheerleader
Published January 18, 2011


The affidavit also notes that in February 2010, police responded to a domestic violence call at the house. Adkins allegedly threatened to kill Billie and Hailey Dunn during a heated argument. After telling police he never issued these threats, he later allegedly confessed to police that he threatened the two.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/13/authorities-step-search-missing-texas-cheerleader/?test=latestnews


Shawn Frightened Hailey

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said that he`d go in the bathroom and he`d use Billie`s phone and talk to people and then come out and just stand by her door. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Just an opinion, but I do not think Billie is very bright. I think she is also a very vulnerable person and easily manipulated. This is based on what I see from her and her letting such a man into her and her childrens lives.

IMHO, she's lying about A LOT.   There is no way she didnt know his dark side, she has a pic that classifies her as his dirty women or something to that effect.  She's on NG tonight saying she didnt know about pot smoking, another blatant lie.  And wait, she said that he texts her but somehow that equates to him not having a cell phone...huh?  She claims she hasnt talked to him but then she states she has called but "they" wont let him talk to her, then says "his lawyer" wont let him....which is it Billie?  Come on now!  It is documented that there was a domestic abuse call to the house that threatened her & her daughter's life.  She looked directly to the left & upward when asked about the pot smoking which is a huge indicator that she is lying.  You might be right that she may be vulnerable and/or easily manipulated BUT clearly she knows the difference between right & wrong as well she at least as the minimalist of instinct to know that she has placed a high risk in her home with her children.  It is also well documented that her children had a lot more freedom than appropriate for their ages & a loose hold on their comings and goings at the very least.  She knows who Shawn associates with & if I got looks that I've seen him give that alone would have had me kick him to the curb.   I doubt very highly that some random stranger is responsible for this.  Mind you there was a caller tonight on NG & she was very graphic in describing what Shawn may have done to Hailey yet Billie didnt shed a tear, now if I heard that about my flesh & blood I would have lost it...my God think about that for a second, what mother hears that and stays stoic?  While it is doubtful that Billie participated in what happened to Hailey or knew about it after the fact may be doubtful, IMHO this mother is looking with her "deer in the headlights" look because she is riddled with guilt, guilt she will have to carry the rest of her life.  She played with fire & she got burnt in the worse possible way.   Her past behavior & condoning of her boyfriend's is exactly why we are all worrying about her daughter's life & for the rest of her life she is going to have to live with the consequence of it, too bad it is probably is too late to save an innocent child.   I feel for Hailey's brother & bio dad but as far as this mother is concerned she has infuriated my senses beyond repair or empathy.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:53:15 AM

IMHO, she's lying about A LOT.   There is no way she didnt know his dark side, she has a pic that classifies her as his dirty women or something to that effect.  She's on NG tonight saying she didnt know about pot smoking, another blatant lie.  And wait, she said that he texts her but somehow that equates to him not having a cell phone...huh?  She claims she hasnt talked to him but then she states she has called but "they" wont let him talk to her, then says "his lawyer" wont let him....which is it Billie?  Come on now!  It is documented that there was a domestic abuse call to the house that threatened her & her daughter's life.  She looked directly to the left & upward when asked about the pot smoking which is a huge indicator that she is lying.  You might be right that she may be vulnerable and/or easily manipulated BUT clearly she knows the difference between right & wrong as well she at least as the minimalist of instinct to know that she has placed a high risk in her home with her children.  It is also well documented that her children had a lot more freedom than appropriate for their ages & a loose hold on their comings and goings at the very least.  She knows who Shawn associates with & if I got looks that I've seen him give that alone would have had me kick him to the curb.   I doubt very highly that some random stranger is responsible for this.  Mind you there was a caller tonight on NG & she was very graphic in describing what Shawn may have done to Hailey yet Billie didnt shed a tear, now if I heard that about my flesh & blood I would have lost it...my God think about that for a second, what mother hears that and stays stoic?  While it is doubtful that Billie participated in what happened to Hailey or knew about it after the fact may be doubtful, IMHO this mother is looking with her "deer in the headlights" look because she is riddled with guilt, guilt she will have to carry the rest of her life.  She played with fire & she got burnt in the worse possible way.   Her past behavior & condoning of her boyfriend's is exactly why we are all worrying about her daughter's life & for the rest of her life she is going to have to live with the consequence of it, too bad it is probably is too late to save an innocent child.   I feel for Hailey's brother & bio dad but as far as this mother is concerned she has infuriated my senses beyond repair or empathy.

I second that CAPPY!

O/T I hope you are having the time of your life with your daughter at home!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:54:58 AM
Did anyone else notice on the 911 call, Billie stated that Shawn had left it there when he stayed the night, so surely he WAS possibly living there on and off......then I did notice the order of how she relayed what she was worried about, TV, X-BOX and then that her son might be there..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


WRT licensing~I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse and I have to keep my CE credits up yearly also, if I don't I am forbidden to take a trade. Also, for every state that I have an account in I also have to be registered, in fact the home office took TX off of my registrations in mid 2009 and we don't know why, I did a trade and an alert went out ASAP, we had to bust the trade and re-register in TX. I knew one person who actually went to jail for this ::MonkeyEek::

So, I am responsible but my company has the ultimate responsibility in the licensing processes.....and we don't work with sick patients just money.......how scary is it that she was practicing for a full yr before it was revoked~the SEC, NASD and every other regulatory agency would be all over my company for a slip like this. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wonder about her saying Shawn was mental. Has Shawn had a history of psych problems? Not that it would surprise me..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 19, 2011, 12:55:59 AM
For whatever it's worth, I have a small medical clinic and we even keep up with Continuing Education requirements for all medical staff, and even register them for seminars, etc. to BE SURE they maintain their licenses! Maybe that spoils them, but it's really in our own interest.

My hubbie is an occupational therapist & there is NO WAY he or anyone that has worked at the two facilities that he has worked for in the past decade can get away with not keeping up with the continuing education requirements which is a specific amount of hours per cycle, so I agree.   It is up to the licensee but most facilities would never entertain letting it go because their is liability all around & so not worth the consequence. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 19, 2011, 12:58:03 AM

IMHO, she's lying about A LOT.   There is no way she didnt know his dark side, she has a pic that classifies her as his dirty women or something to that effect.  She's on NG tonight saying she didnt know about pot smoking, another blatant lie.  And wait, she said that he texts her but somehow that equates to him not having a cell phone...huh?  She claims she hasnt talked to him but then she states she has called but "they" wont let him talk to her, then says "his lawyer" wont let him....which is it Billie?  Come on now!  It is documented that there was a domestic abuse call to the house that threatened her & her daughter's life.  She looked directly to the left & upward when asked about the pot smoking which is a huge indicator that she is lying.  You might be right that she may be vulnerable and/or easily manipulated BUT clearly she knows the difference between right & wrong as well she at least as the minimalist of instinct to know that she has placed a high risk in her home with her children.  It is also well documented that her children had a lot more freedom than appropriate for their ages & a loose hold on their comings and goings at the very least.  She knows who Shawn associates with & if I got looks that I've seen him give that alone would have had me kick him to the curb.   I doubt very highly that some random stranger is responsible for this.  Mind you there was a caller tonight on NG & she was very graphic in describing what Shawn may have done to Hailey yet Billie didnt shed a tear, now if I heard that about my flesh & blood I would have lost it...my God think about that for a second, what mother hears that and stays stoic?  While it is doubtful that Billie participated in what happened to Hailey or knew about it after the fact may be doubtful, IMHO this mother is looking with her "deer in the headlights" look because she is riddled with guilt, guilt she will have to carry the rest of her life.  She played with fire & she got burnt in the worse possible way.   Her past behavior & condoning of her boyfriend's is exactly why we are all worrying about her daughter's life & for the rest of her life she is going to have to live with the consequence of it, too bad it is probably is too late to save an innocent child.   I feel for Hailey's brother & bio dad but as far as this mother is concerned she has infuriated my senses beyond repair or empathy.

I second that CAPPY!

O/T I hope you are having the time of your life with your daughter at home!  ::MonkeyDance::
I'm having a blast!   A tad bit of anxiety with my dog & grand doggie but working thru that too.   We bought a tee-shirt for Trigger today that says "Im a grand child" hehe
I'm catching up for the day as a result & just got done watching NG's repeat.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 19, 2011, 01:17:06 AM
Did anyone else notice on the 911 call, Billie stated that Shawn had left it there when he stayed the night, so surely he WAS possibly living there on and off......then I did notice the order of how she relayed what she was worried about, TV, X-BOX and then that her son might be there..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


WRT licensing~I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse and I have to keep my CE credits up yearly also, if I don't I am forbidden to take a trade. Also, for every state that I have an account in I also have to be registered, in fact the home office took TX off of my registrations in mid 2009 and we don't know why, I did a trade and an alert went out ASAP, we had to bust the trade and re-register in TX. I knew one person who actually went to jail for this ::MonkeyEek::

So, I am responsible but my company has the ultimate responsibility in the licensing processes.....and we don't work with sick patients just money.......how scary is it that she was practicing for a full yr before it was revoked~the SEC, NASD and every other regulatory agency would be all over my company for a slip like this. ::MonkeyNoNo::

islandmonkey - I know what you mean - my work for many years included the regulatory agencies, SEC & NASD. 

What I really noticed was that Billie did NOT "trust" Shawn not to take something as small as a TV or the Xbox...AND that Shawn was threatening to kill her and her ex-husband (why the ex-husband?)...YET, in the future, she let this man move into her home and trusted him around her children, which are much more precious.

I also noticed (and it irritated me) how she reported that her boyfriend was threatening to kill her and her ex-husband and then that LEO turned around and said that she said the ex-husband was threatening to kill her.  Wow ... big mistake about what Billie said.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 01:29:45 AM
Did anyone else notice on the 911 call, Billie stated that Shawn had left it there when he stayed the night, so surely he WAS possibly living there on and off......then I did notice the order of how she relayed what she was worried about, TV, X-BOX and then that her son might be there..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


WRT licensing~I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse and I have to keep my CE credits up yearly also, if I don't I am forbidden to take a trade. Also, for every state that I have an account in I also have to be registered, in fact the home office took TX off of my registrations in mid 2009 and we don't know why, I did a trade and an alert went out ASAP, we had to bust the trade and re-register in TX. I knew one person who actually went to jail for this ::MonkeyEek::

So, I am responsible but my company has the ultimate responsibility in the licensing processes.....and we don't work with sick patients just money.......how scary is it that she was practicing for a full yr before it was revoked~the SEC, NASD and every other regulatory agency would be all over my company for a slip like this. ::MonkeyNoNo::

islandmonkey - I know what you mean - my work for many years included the regulatory agencies, SEC & NASD. 

What I really noticed was that Billie did NOT "trust" Shawn not to take something as small as a TV or the Xbox...AND that Shawn was threatening to kill her and her ex-husband (why the ex-husband?)...YET, in the future, she let this man move into her home and trusted him around her children, which are much more precious.
I also noticed (and it irritated me) how she reported that her boyfriend was threatening to kill her and her ex-husband and then that LEO turned around and said that she said the ex-husband was threatening to kill her.  Wow ... big mistake about what Billie said.



Yeppers~those reg agencies are not fun at all when it comes time to audit, not to mention the in house audits ::MonkeyTongue::

I posted that just upthread, she did remember her son finally in that list ::MonkeyNoNo::

I did catch the LE's mistake....kinda of a big mistake if they were looking out for Clint rather than Shawn. But, another thing that struck me was who calls 911 about their ex wanting a t-shirt? I guess I save those calls for life threatening emergencies and she was so calm, then Shawn makes a call on her, I wonder if it was tit for tat. I have had to call 911 before, I was able to explain exactly what I needed and the situation, but I was sobbing hysterically, it just came off as odd for some reason. Also, as I posted earlier, she told LE he left it there when he spent the night, so he WAS staying there far prior to the last 4 months as we all suspected, grrrrrr.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 19, 2011, 01:40:52 AM
Billie said she didn't know about his cell pings until she read it in the search warrant affadavits. It had come out previously that he left work early ( Monday 27th ) , she knew that but she thought he went to his Mum's and then had come home later.
no one has addressed the Tuesday. Did he get up and pretend to go to work ?
She went to work, found out Hailey had not made it back home, she went home ( co-worker drove her ) made some calls, and then her sister in law drove her to the police dept. I am not sure where Shawn was during this.
..
Now she is trying to find out what calls were made on her cell. Good luck with that as the password to get into the records is being sent to the cell which the police have. 
..
I also have a fairly good idea of who else failed their LDTs and who is one of the other suspects.
..
I thought she appeared out of it. Have we ever seen her not like that ? What is that condition ? 

It is called drugged, or stupid.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 01:42:06 AM
Billie said she didn't know about his cell pings until she read it in the search warrant affadavits. It had come out previously that he left work early ( Monday 27th ) , she knew that but she thought he went to his Mum's and then had come home later.
no one has addressed the Tuesday. Did he get up and pretend to go to work ?
She went to work, found out Hailey had not made it back home, she went home ( co-worker drove her ) made some calls, and then her sister in law drove her to the police dept. I am not sure where Shawn was during this.
..
Now she is trying to find out what calls were made on her cell. Good luck with that as the password to get into the records is being sent to the cell which the police have. 
..
I also have a fairly good idea of who else failed their LDTs and who is one of the other suspects.
..
I thought she appeared out of it. Have we ever seen her not like that ? What is that condition ? 

It is called drugged, or stupid.
 
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: pinkbanana on January 19, 2011, 01:42:11 AM
Let me try this again... I don't know where my post went  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi Monkeys,

I'm not in the Medical Field but in the Field I am in we MUST go through all the Licenses to make sure they are Valid. Those who have an expiration date approaching are sent Reminder Emails. So my point is..it's not only the responsibility of the individual who holds the license but of those in the work place.

pb


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: yuknomenot on January 19, 2011, 02:33:41 AM
BD said SA won't take her calls.  NG said why don't you call his cell?  BD said he doesn't have a cell phone.

This makes no sense because she just stated in the previous segment of NG that she hasn't talked to SA but he sends her texts.
Is there a way to send texts w/ no cell phone?

If NG would listen and ask follow up questions...................................

arghhh
Verizon allows their customers to send and receive txt messages via their website https://text.vzw.com/customer_site/jsp/messaging_lo.jsp (https://text.vzw.com/customer_site/jsp/messaging_lo.jsp).   I don't know about other carriers.

That said, I don't believe for a second that Billie and Shawn have been out of touch. They probably have those prepaid phones, but they certainly wouldn't want that information known or LE would confiscate them.  At least competent LE would   ::MonkeyNoNo::. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2011, 08:03:40 AM
The problem with those links are the ads that come along with them.  I removed the link  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning Klaas & Monkey's,

Yes, the saucy, pop-up ads, came along the link I posted for a boom boom club.  That is what happened to me, and it was not funny. I am only posting PG sites. ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2011, 08:27:57 AM
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html

Last nights show.




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 19, 2011, 09:18:10 AM
reading back about the neighbor lady who said that she saw Hailey with a 6-7 yr old boy..
LE is not going to question the boy because a 6 yr old is not a credible witness...I beg to differ..a 6 yr old child can be very articulate in my opinion...and even if he isn't, why not question him anyways to see what he knows if anything? or do they even know who this child is??
I am not approving of this bungling police force...jmo...the more I hear and read, the less faith I have in them doing this investigation of Hailey missing..the FBI is on the case right?thought I read that here...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 09:32:20 AM
I am beginning to believe that NO ONE in this case is telling the truth about ANYTHING.

Poor Hailey.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 09:39:07 AM
The problem with those links are the ads that come along with them.  I removed the link  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning Klaas & Monkey's,

Yes, the saucy, pop-up ads, came along the link I posted for a boom boom club.  That is what happened to me, and it was not funny. I am only posting PG sites. ::rhino::
::MonkeyHaHa:: I sat a debated whether to add the link or not, but since it has been stressed to provide a link, I went ahead and did it. The second I hit the enter key I knew I had made a mistake. And that was just a link to find strip clubs in the area. The actual link to the club was  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2011, 09:56:39 AM
The problem with those links are the ads that come along with them.  I removed the link  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning Klaas & Monkey's,

Yes, the saucy, pop-up ads, came along the link I posted for a boom boom club.  That is what happened to me, and it was not funny. I am only posting PG sites. ::rhino::
::MonkeyHaHa:: I sat a debated whether to add the link or not, but since it has been stressed to provide a link, I went ahead and did it. The second I hit the enter key I knew I had made a mistake. And that was just a link to find strip clubs in the area. The actual link to the club was  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::!!!


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Happened to me, too!     

O.T.
The video below is last night NG, at least, I believe it is. 

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2011/01/17/ng.tx.dunn.suspect.hln.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 10:09:51 AM
The problem with those links are the ads that come along with them.  I removed the link  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning Klaas & Monkey's,

Yes, the saucy, pop-up ads, came along the link I posted for a boom boom club.  That is what happened to me, and it was not funny. I am only posting PG sites. ::rhino::
::MonkeyHaHa:: I sat a debated whether to add the link or not, but since it has been stressed to provide a link, I went ahead and did it. The second I hit the enter key I knew I had made a mistake. And that was just a link to find strip clubs in the area. The actual link to the club was  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::!!!


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Happened to me, too!     

O.T.
The video below is last night NG, at least, I believe it is. 

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2011/01/17/ng.tx.dunn.suspect.hln.html

You did good! It is Nancy and Jinkasarus opining about the masks last night. Btw, who would pay perfectly good money for those horrible masks? Shawn was practically swooning over his on that website. I still want to know if he has been treated for mental issues. If not, I think he should have considered it. And take his little cousin too. I see drug treatment in that boy's future. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 10:19:36 AM
Slideshow: Newly Released Images of Hailey Dunn

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332726&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 10:22:56 AM
Hope for Hailey's Safe Return

From sunrise to sunset, people are searching for her. Some are family and friends (that know Hailey well) and others are complete strangers that just want to find the missing thirteen-year-old girl.
It's been amazing to see the outpouring of support not just from the Big Country area, but around the country. But in all of it's amazement, it's frustrating for most people knowing that they've searched acres upon acres for clues and still three weeks later, no sign.
So many of us cannot imagine what it's been like for the people that know Hailey. So many people are impacted by the disappearance of Hailey because she is just thirteen. She has so much to look forward to and the world is just beginning for her.
Prayer and hope are keeping family and searchers strong. Most people continue to hold onto the happy ending of this frightening scenario.
So many people that I have been speaking with over the past few weeks have shared how Hailey's disappearance has imacted their lives and how they hold onto their kids a little bit tighter because something like this could happen to anyone.
Many people are expanding their search efforts and their strategies to bring her back, and I know there may be search efforts that even the media is unaware of. If anybody knows of efforts that we may not, please let us know. As I am sure, you've noticed on our website and during our newscasts, we're trying to put Hailey's face and story out there as much as possible, hoping for the best outcome. Thanks for reading this blog. Please, feel free to share any thoughts or comments you might have about Hailey Dunn.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/news-blog-brittanys-bytes/?nxd_id=332946


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 10:24:01 AM
Has Interest in Dunn Case Gone too Far?  (with video)

The media is closely watching the events in Colorado City unfold, just as television viewers and internet users are watching as the search for Hailey Dunn continues.

Walk into any place in Abilene where people congregate, and you will find people talking about the search for the missing teen.

Since the beginning, more than three weeks ago, new developments have been made public as soon as they become available, on television and online.  But is there a line that can be crossed between interest in the safety of the person and interest in the real-life drama that unfolds.

"Everyday I look and see what's happened," a woman at the Rose Park Senior Center in Abilene said.

Has the media gone to far in covering other aspects of the case, with the speculation about Shawn Adkins involvement in Haley's disappearance and more?

Dr. Kenneth Pybus, assistant professor of journalism at Abilene Christian University said as long as people are talking about it and as long as there is an active search, it will be newsworthy.

"They don't want people to ingnore the story when they're interested in what the story is," he said.  "The danger of that is that it just becomes a sensational story or a story that we're doing as journalists just because people are going to want to watch it or read about it."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332936


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 19, 2011, 10:26:15 AM
OMG!!!!  I just about wet my pants!!! TMI, I know, but I decided since I just took baby boy to school that I would click on racy Club Planet link to check out poss strip club BD may have worked in.  Well I must have a really good filter (thank you powers that be!)because nothing racy came up, no XXX but I did get one hot thing...an ad for "Hot in Cleveland"! lol lol  That is the new show with Betty White and Val Bertinelli.  I didn't get any racy pop ups, no xxx redirects, it was too funny.  Like a sign from above that I shouldn't have even looked.  Did y'all get that ad within the Jaguar Club ad too?  Weird that someone would place that there.  Anyway, if I knew how to take a screenshot I would have.  I don't remember seeing where the thought that BD worked in these clubs originated from.  Anyone recall?  I personally don't think she did but I wouldn't put it past her and who knows, after losing nursing job and seperating she may have needed that quick cash with two kids.  It happens and some good, nice, young women have used that line of work for instant money just to get through school and help with kids and deadbeat dads.  Wouldn't hold that against anyone but BD...she just doesn't make ANY responsible decisions.  All IMO.  Gotta go to work so y'all be good and have a beautiful day.

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 10:29:05 AM
Local Searchers Say Extra Help Finding Hailey Is Appreciated (with video)_

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Searchers tell KTXS that additional help from national organizations in the search to finding missing teenager Hailey Dunn is appreciated – especially since each day it gets harder to find time to look for Hailey.

Shawnna McClinton and her children drove from Big Springs to the community of Dunn Tuesday to tie orange balloons on the bridge designated as a prayer site for Hailey.

"I can't explain it; my heart says go find her," McClinton said. "So that's what we're trying to do."

However, taking time away from school and work is increasingly becoming a problem for volunteers as each day goes by, and there's still no sign of the missing teen.

"Any chance I can get 30 minutes or an hour with the babysitter, I take them up on it and I go look," she said.

Even when searchers find the time, they told KTXS News they're running out of places to look and are growing frustrated every day they don't get closure – which could also be the reason search parties are growing smaller and smaller.

A local searcher, Paul Farmer, told KTXS he's seen a noticeable decline in help every day. However, the number of volunteers could pick back up very soon.

Two national organizations are coming in to train volunteers on how to organize and work as a team.

"Any help would be appreciated," McClinton said, "because it's been too long."

Numerous law enforcement agencies have also been on the job throughout the search. Working solely with their own personnel, and remaining tight-lipped on the investigation, have made some searchers feel they're snubbing the community searches for Hailey.

"We've heard a lot of people cutting them down," Farmer said. "They're not the ones that need to be cut down."

Instead, Farmer said each group should focus on their shared goal. "They're trying to do their job, and we're trying to help the best we know how."

Klaas Kids and the Laura Recovery Center are calling for any volunteers to come help.

If you're interested, you're asked to meet at the Colorado City Civic Center at 10 a.m. Wednesday.

Registered searchers must be over 18 and bring photo ID.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26535649/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 10:53:13 AM
Has Interest in Dunn Case Gone too Far?  (with video)

The media is closely watching the events in Colorado City unfold, just as television viewers and internet users are watching as the search for Hailey Dunn continues.

Walk into any place in Abilene where people congregate, and you will find people talking about the search for the missing teen.

Since the beginning, more than three weeks ago, new developments have been made public as soon as they become available, on television and online.  But is there a line that can be crossed between interest in the safety of the person and interest in the real-life drama that unfolds.

"Everyday I look and see what's happened," a woman at the Rose Park Senior Center in Abilene said.

Has the media gone to far in covering other aspects of the case, with the speculation about Shawn Adkins involvement in Haley's disappearance and more?

Dr. Kenneth Pybus, assistant professor of journalism at Abilene Christian University said as long as people are talking about it and as long as there is an active search, it will be newsworthy.

"They don't want people to ingnore the story when they're interested in what the story is," he said.  "The danger of that is that it just becomes a sensational story or a story that we're doing as journalists just because people are going to want to watch it or read about it."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332936

I feel I have to rebut this article. I think there is too much complacency as it is about how many children go missing, never to be found. We hear it over and over, "It couldn't happen where we live" or "I never believed something like this could happen here." Most people go about their daily lives completely oblivious to the pain of someone else in some other place losing a child. In this me, me, me world it seems other people pain is so often overlooked. They go home, close their door, turn on their movies or "reality shows", or play their mindless video games and never give it another thought.

I don't think it is sensationalism to give all the facts possible about a missing child, and even who may be suspect. Too much of this kind of thing is kept under the radar as it is. Parent don't even know who to watch out for, because of suspects rights. He could be living next door, or visiting at your house, because you don't know. Shawn put his own self out there. Look on the many videos and websites. How could he not be a suspect?

I don't think most people want to know the details because they want a salacious story. They want to know to protect their own and to be aware. But mostly, they want to see a child like Hailey to be found. Safe if at all possible, and most pray she is. But if not, they want her body to have a proper burial and the person who did it punished. I mostly would like to see the perp have the same method of death as their victim, but that's just me.

As far as I am concerned, there could never be too much coverage over a child missing. There are too many missing that get over looked as it is. If you don't believe me, looking at the many missing sites and see the numbers. It is mind boggling. You look at the sweet little faces of the children, and yes, even adults and ask yourself "How can this be?" "How can their relatives even get out of bed in the morning?" And the people who have recovered a missing child dead, have the worst of it all. Some are able to bring something good out of it and help others. I am sure there are many more who are entirely crushed and may still be living, but they are really not alive.

So, bring on the details, and descriptions, and the cast of characters. It may open some people's eyes. As a side note, I think the details and the forthcoming of the LE in this case has been pizz-poor. My impression is of arrogance on the part of the leadership of this investigation. The media seems to have to really scrape the bottom of the barrel to even get a story to keep out there. I am sure it is very hard to get one statement, only to get just the opposite statement within the hour. It has been mixed messages from the beginning.

It's too bad most of what we get is on Nancy Grace with her hysterics and rudeness with her guests and reporters. But keep on talking Billie. Every nite you draw the noose tighter.

I think I might be through, but maybe not. Youl know me. I always have something to say.  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
Slideshow: Newly Released Images of Hailey Dunn

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332726&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

What precious pictures of Hailey. And what a thoughtful teacher to take so many of her.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 11:07:55 AM
OMG!!!!  I just about wet my pants!!! TMI, I know, but I decided since I just took baby boy to school that I would click on racy Club Planet link to check out poss strip club BD may have worked in.  Well I must have a really good filter (thank you powers that be!)because nothing racy came up, no XXX but I did get one hot thing...an ad for "Hot in Cleveland"! lol lol  That is the new show with Betty White and Val Bertinelli.  I didn't get any racy pop ups, no xxx redirects, it was too funny.  Like a sign from above that I shouldn't have even looked.  Did y'all get that ad within the Jaguar Club ad too?  Weird that someone would place that there.  Anyway, if I knew how to take a screenshot I would have.  I don't remember seeing where the thought that BD worked in these clubs originated from.  Anyone recall?  I personally don't think she did but I wouldn't put it past her and who knows, after losing nursing job and seperating she may have needed that quick cash with two kids.  It happens and some good, nice, young women have used that line of work for instant money just to get through school and help with kids and deadbeat dads.  Wouldn't hold that against anyone but BD...she just doesn't make ANY responsible decisions.  All IMO.  Gotta go to work so y'all be good and have a beautiful day.

 

It was a rumor from a local on Web Slueths.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 11:59:55 AM
When Shaw suddenly left his workplace on the morning of December 27th ... why did he stop at home prior to driving to Big Spring?  Why did he not want this stop revealed ... not even to Billie?  Could it be that known only to Shawn ... Hailey was not still sleeping in her bed ... she was deceased?

Janet

++++++

The Big Spring Diversion?

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 18, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: I want to go back to Billie Dunn. Back to the question the caller presented earlier. Between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m.. Why? Why? Let`s see that ping record again, Liz. The map. Why would he go into work, Billie, take a look at his boss, 6:00 a.m., take a sip of soda and walk out? Then tell you he got fired or quit or some such story as that when the boss said that`s not what happened at all. He just turned around and walked out. Then his pings placed him back around your home between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. Then between 7:00 and 9:00, nothing. Then the pings put him at his mother`s house around 9:00 up until 2:40 p.m.

What do you see in that scenario, Billie Dunn? What`s he doing back around your home?

DUNN: I don`t know. That`s all stuff I need a lot of answers to, that we all need a lot of answers to.

GRACE: Well, have you tried to ask him?

DUNN: No.

GRACE: Why?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him. He`ll send a text every now and then. But I haven`t asked him, why did you come back to the house? He never let me know that. I didn`t know that until the affidavits came out and showed his pings. That he had come back here first, then to Big Spring.
 
GRACE: Well, why haven`t you asked him?

DUNN: Per his lawyer, he can`t talk to me.

GRACE: So his lawyer -- man, that was like pulling a tooth. His lawyer has told him not to talk to you? ....

DUNN: Right.

GRACE: Why?

DUNN: I don`t know. There`s a lot of questions I have and I guess that`s why. Also, I have gone over there with Texas Rangers to try to get him to come talk. Shawn, you need to talk. It`ll just be two guys. There`s a lot of answers you can provide. And that`s probably why they`re not wanting me to talk to him.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;topic=9292.260;num_replies=277


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: So, Alexis Weed, he says -- let me get the story straight. And then line it up with the pings.

WEED: OK. So he says he leaves to go to his mother`s house and that`s in Big Spring, Texas. This is at 6:10. But his cell phone pings show that at 6:35 a.m., he is pinging in Colorado City.

GRACE: All the way up until nearly 7:00 a.m.

WEED: Correct.

GRACE: So he goes back to the area in which Hailey lives.

WEED: It looks that way.

GRACE: Question, if he were back at the home, is that the cell tower his phone would ping off?

WEED: Yes, police say in the affidavit that that`s the exact same tower.

GRACE: OK. Did you know that, Billie Dunn? He didn`t go straight to his mother`s. He went back to where the home is.

DUNN: I found that out last night watching the news. He told me the same thing that he went straight to his mom`s house in Big Spring.

GRACE: Now in his defense, to get from work to his mother`s, would he drive through Colorado City?

DUNN: No, I don`t think so. He could but it would be shorter to not come through Colorado City.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 12:08:32 PM
I am getting all of Shawn's mother's and grandmother's mixed up. Does Shawn have a mother and a grandmother in Big Spring, and another grandmother in Dunn?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Missing Hailey Dunn: New Information of Mysterious Text Message
By Robin Stanfill
Published Jan 19, 2011


Read more at Suite101: Missing Hailey Dunn: New Information of Mysterious Text Message http://www.suite101.com/content/missing-hailey-dunn-new-information-of-mysterious-text-message-a334845#ixzz1BVHmTeSZ

Law enforcement have confirmed a text message was sent from Hailey's cell phone at 2:00 p.m., to her friend, on the date of her disappearance.

Law enforcement have now confirmed, via spokesperson, Pete Kampfer, that a text message was sent, from Hailey's cell phone, to a friend at 2:00p.m. on the date of her disappearance. The text message simply stated “WYD”, (What are you doing?). Kampfer stated that no information concerning the text would be released, rather would be “held close to the investigation”.

Hailey’s mother, Billie Dunn, mentioned the text message on CNN’s Nancy Grace, January 18, 2011. Billie Dunn said, prior to the investigators taking the cell phone, she had seen the message; however, there was no response to the text, by the friend.

Law enforcement have cell phone records from this Verizon account, via Search Warrant for the cell phone records of Billie Dunn. Investigators are not releasing information concerning the cell tower’s location of the “ping” for this text.


Read more at Suite101: Missing Hailey Dunn: New Information of Mysterious Text Message http://www.suite101.com/content/missing-hailey-dunn-new-information-of-mysterious-text-message-a334845#ixzz1BVGwn07m
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ME: I imagine FOIA will not be allowed to access the pings for the mysterious text message. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 12:38:10 PM
Sorry~what a biatch ( no offense to biatches) but this just pizzes me off like you can't imagine ::MonkeyMad:: I have always thought she played the female Ron Cummings role very well, "I wuz at werk", "I don't know" BS, but a little SPindy Anthony sank in it looks like.

http://www.valleynewslive.com/Global/story.asp?S=13863935

BETSY BLANEY
Associated Press
LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) - Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of a 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing nearly three weeks ago, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer, who has served as a police spokesman in the case, declined to elaborate about what had been found during a recent search of the landfill in Abilene, about 70 miles east of Colorado City, where Hailey Darlene Dunn was reported missing Dec. 28.

"It's a sensitive part of the investigation," Kampfer said. "The cadaver dogs did hit on items at the landfill."

He said landfills in Colorado City and nearby Snyder also have been searched, but that investigators have not given up on bringing Hailey home unharmed.

"We have not given up on the idea she is a runaway or something along those lines of a missing person," Kampfer said. "We don't want to do that. If there's a small chance that she's still out there alive we want to keep up our effort to find her."

The teen was reported missing by her mother, Billie Dunn. The woman's former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier when she told him she was going to her father's home nearby and then on to spend the night at a friend's home. She did neither.

Kampfer last week identified Adkins as one of several people of interest in the case and said Tuesday that the investigation has widened to include "close and former associates of Adkins." No one has been arrested.

No one answered the phone Tuesday at the Big Spring residence where Adkins was staying last week. He did not immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

Adkins' grandmother, Renee Norwood, said she hadn't heard about the landfill search results or that Adkins' associates were being investigated.

"I quit listening to the media and the police," said Norwood, who claims investigators are wrongly looking at her grandson. "Why would I?"

Police affidavits in the case say Billie Dunn and Adkins have given contradictory statements to investigators. Both strongly deny involvement in Hailey's disappearance and claim they were misquoted by police.


Billie Dunn said she wants police to look everywhere for her daughter and is spending much of her days doing interviews.

"I want to be sure the public is looking for an alive Hailey," the 33-year-old mother of two said Tuesday. "Somebody could be getting away with my daughter."

There have been reports, Billie Dunn said, that her daughter didn't like Adkins. She denied that. Hailey at first saw Adkins as someone who would keep her mother and father from reconciling, Billie Dunn said.

"You know I'm happier now," Billie Dunn said she told her daughter. "And over time she realized that." ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

In an ironic twist, commissioners in Mitchell County voted last week to join a regional public defender's office in Lubbock, which handles only capital cases.

The scores of West Texas counties served by the Lubbock office rarely deal with death penalty cases. But when they do, trial costs can cripple their budgets; conservative estimates place the cost of trying one death penalty case at $250,000.

Mitchell County Judge Ray Mayo said Tuesday that he and the four other county commissioners discussed joining last summer and Hailey's disappearance had nothing to do with their decision.

If a capital case emerges from Hailey's disappearance, though, the public defender's office would not handle it. The agreement between Mitchell County and the Lubbock office does not include pending cases.

The cost to the county if there is a capital trial is "certainly" a concern, Mayo said.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on January 19, 2011, 12:40:22 PM
I feel I have to rebut this article. I think there is too much complacency as it is about how many children go missing, never to be found. We hear it over and over, "It couldn't happen where we live" or "I never believed something like this could happen here." Most people go about their daily lives completely oblivious to the pain of someone else in some other place losing a child. In this me, me, me world it seems other people pain is so often overlooked. They go home, close their door, turn on their movies or "reality shows", or play their mindless video games and never give it another thought.

                                     ------------------------
Thankyou Fanny, this was so well written and thought out, I'm sure we all feel the same way in regards to this case.  It just seems LE down there have no idea how to run this investigation, hope I'm wrong but its so sad when they have/had all this help and no guidance its just so frustrating.

So many of these cases all seem to be going the same way, Kyron - mums the word.  Zhara, she was found, but now we sit for months with no knowledge of who will be charged and what really happened,   List goes on and on, so sad.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 19, 2011, 12:40:47 PM
IM where on WS did you see that post on Billie maybe working in a strip club?  Guess the good friend of Billie also gave a farewell post over there but didn't see that either.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 19, 2011, 12:42:38 PM
Hi Monkeys!  ::HelloKitty::

I was watching the NG segment with Shawn in the mask. I noticed the Metallica T shirt he was wearing and it reminded me that there is a band by the name of SlipKnot whose members wear weird masks. Sure enough, the mask he was wearing comes up on ebay if you do a search for "SlipKnot Mask".

I was just curious if the mask was sold under S&M topics or not. I don't think it's sold particularly for that purpose.  :smt102

Boy, a search can take you to some WEIRD and SCAREY places when you start going down that path!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 12:52:40 PM
IM where on WS did you see that post on Billie maybe working in a strip club?  Guess the good friend of Billie also gave a farewell post over there but didn't see that either.

On the thread last night, IRC Texas was in her name....I did see her friend give up, she did say that if she found out the 911 call wasn't about the debit card and was a threat she would have to re-think things, makes you wonder WTH took her so long. So many lies, BS, and dancing around questions on NG when it is ALL out there in black and white and wrt the not asking Shawn about those hours , I would have asked that the first day, course I think she is a liar and is still siding with him over her daughter and protecting him, it just makes me sick sick sick to see that because IF she were alive, can you imagine how she'd feel seeing her mom tell a reporter she loved SA?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
Hi Monkeys!  ::HelloKitty::

I was watching the NG segment with Shawn in the mask. I noticed the Metallica T shirt he was wearing and it reminded me that there is a band by the name of SlipKnot whose members wear weird masks. Sure enough, the mask he was wearing comes up on ebay if you do a search for "SlipKnot Mask".

I was just curious if the mask was sold under S&M topics or not. I don't think it's sold particularly for that purpose.  :smt102

Boy, a search can take you to some WEIRD and SCAREY places when you start going down that path!  ::MonkeyEek::


 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Scary.....


wrt the shirt~ Billie wore a slipknot shirt when she was being interviewed........I know it seems like it may do no good, but why not wear the find Hailey t-shirt?

PS~you should see the other band's lyrics and album cover......well, not unless you want nightmares. There are so many things like this I am blissfully ignorant of and I like it that way!!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
Slideshow: Newly Released Images of Hailey Dunn

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332726&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Breaks my heart to compare these pictures to the ones taken at Christmas on the sofa and in front of the fireplace. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
Fanny Mae  ::HelloKitty::

Here is one Granny.


On Tuesday, two men and a woman were seen coming out of the home of Adkin’s grandmother Renee Norwood, who lives in the community of Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City. The three unidentified individuals also were seen walking behind the Norwood house. The woman was seen holding a container and a latex glove. snip..

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/



Perhaps, Klaas, will give us permission to make a "Who's Who" list in the Hailey Dunn case?   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 19, 2011, 01:06:55 PM
IM where on WS did you see that post on Billie maybe working in a strip club?  Guess the good friend of Billie also gave a farewell post over there but didn't see that either.

On the thread last night, IRC Texas was in her name....I did see her friend give up, she did say that if she found out the 911 call wasn't about the debit card and was a threat she would have to re-think things, makes you wonder WTH took her so long. So many lies, BS, and dancing around questions on NG when it is ALL out there in black and white and wrt the not asking Shawn about those hours , I would have asked that the first day, course I think she is a liar and is still siding with him over her daughter and protecting him, it just makes me sick sick sick to see that because IF she were alive, can you imagine how she'd feel seeing her mom tell a reporter she loved SA?

In the future, please post the link back to the thread.  We always want the link please. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 01:08:55 PM
Kampfer last week identified Adkins as one of several people of interest in the case and said Tuesday that the investigation has widened to include "close and former associates of Adkins." No one has been arrested.

 ::MonkeyCool::

I believe Corey is still on probation so I am betting he is having a bang a bong moment soon. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 19, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
Fanny Mae  ::HelloKitty::

Here is one Granny.


On Tuesday, two men and a woman were seen coming out of the home of Adkin’s grandmother Renee Norwood, who lives in the community of Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City. The three unidentified individuals also were seen walking behind the Norwood house. The woman was seen holding a container and a latex glove. snip..

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/



Perhaps, Klaas, will give us permission to make a "Who's Who" list in the Hailey Dunn case?   ::MonkeyTongue::

I started a Who's Who thread.  Anyone with information can add it there.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.0


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 01:10:08 PM
Volunteers register to search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn

COLORADO CITY – About 40 volunteers registered to search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn. Two national missing children organizations set up a command center at the Colorado City Civic Center this morning.

The search efforts are being organized by the KlaasKids Foundation Search Center out of California and the Friendswood-based Laura Recovery Center for Missing Children.

The volunteers were issued neon orange vests and divided in two teams the hunt for Hailey Dunn inside the city limits of Colorado City.

“We are going into a lot of areas you have already searched,” said Brad Dennis, director of the search center for the KlaasKids Foundation.

Dawn Davis, with the LRC, cautioned the volunteers not to touch or disturb anything they find that could be considered evidence.

“We want to make sure what we are doing out here is for Hailey,” Davis said. “If the worst has happened we want to make sure someone is held accountable.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/volunteers-register-search-missing-colorado-city-t/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 01:10:28 PM
Fanny Mae  ::HelloKitty::

Here is one Granny.


On Tuesday, two men and a woman were seen coming out of the home of Adkin’s grandmother Renee Norwood, who lives in the community of Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City. The three unidentified individuals also were seen walking behind the Norwood house. The woman was seen holding a container and a latex glove. snip..

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/



Perhaps, Klaas, will give us permission to make a "Who's Who" list in the Hailey Dunn case?   ::MonkeyTongue::

I started a Who's Who thread.  Anyone with information can add it there.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9319.0
That will be very helpful for me, Klaas.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 19, 2011, 01:10:41 PM
Hi Babs! It's driving me nuts not to be able to quote a post (I'm having computer problems) but I just wanted to agree with your frustration! We latch on to these cases involving children and they make their way into our hearts. I'm just stunned and horrified at the number of them that don't have resolution. The wheels of justice are sometimes so slow that they just stop and it's maddening to think that these killers aren't genius but still manage to get away with murder!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 19, 2011, 01:12:39 PM
THANK YOU for the Who's Who Thread, Klaas!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 01:13:42 PM
9-1-1 Calls Won't Help Find Hailey, Mom Says  (with video)

The release of 9-1-1 calls made by Billie Dunn last February aren't doing anything to help find her missing daughter, Dunn said Tuesday night.

The calls were made shortly after Dunn had temporarily broken up with her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, now a suspect in 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Dunn called police on Valentine's Day last year, asking if an officer could keep an eye on her home, fearing Adkins would try to steal something while she was at work.

"Shawn had taken a debit card after we had gotten into an argument, she said.  "We can say ugly things to each other."

A call later placed by Adkins said Billie was trying to kill herself.

"I wouldn't kill myself for sure.  I have two children and I'm really their only caregiver. I'm the one who buys their food, their clothes.  If they need me, I'm their mother."

In another call made to 9-1-1 on the same day, Dunn is heard telling the dispatcher that Adkins threatened to kill her via text message.

"If I had ever thought he was going to hurt my children or myself he would have been out of here and he wouldn't be back," she responded Tuesday night.

Dunn said since the arguments happened 11 months ago, she wants people to focus on the present and help bring her missing daughter home.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332976


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 01:16:01 PM
Hailey's Tearful Father Meets with Organizers, Searchers
(http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/img/jpg/2011_01/8e3beaf4-1b18-3864-2d8b-88fa64ec55f5//220x165.jpg)

The tearful father of missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn met with searchers Wednesday morning before they went out looking for the Colorado City teen.
Clint Dunn and the group dubbed "Hailey's Angels" met at a bridge in the town of Dunn that's been turned into a makeshift vigil for Hailey. The site features teddy bears, pictures of Hailey, and messages that have been left for and about the girl.

The group read poems and prayed together as Clint thanked the volunteers for the continued efforts to bring Hailey home safely.

Shortly after the ceremony, many of the searchers gathered at the Colorado City Civic Center to meet with two private missing children's organizations that are helping organize the volunteer efforts. Representatives from KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center provided a short training seminar on the best way to search before sending out folks in organized groups.

KRBC's Jessica Reyes reports the founder of KlaasKids, Marc Klaas, is expected to arrived in Colorado City this evening. Representatives from the group are expected to stay in the area through the end of the week, if not longer.

The KlaasKids Foundation was established in 1994 in an effort to help protect children. The group's founder is the father of murder victim Polly Hannah Klaas. Marc Klaas regularly appears on the Nancy Grace show to discuss Hailey's case.

Brad Dennis, a director at KlaasKids who is already in Colorado City, has over twenty years of experience in search and rescue and disaster response, according to klaaskids.org. He has managed search efforts for over 60 missing/abducted children around the country.

The Laura Recovery Center, based outside Houston in Friendswood, Texas, organizes community-based searches using very specific mapping and communication techniques.

The organization was founded in 1998, a year following the deadly abduction of 12-year-old Laura Smither.  Smither's body was recovered 17 days after her disappearance.  The organization was established to honor the volunteers, document and publish their effective search methods, and educate families, communities, and law enforcement in working together to prevent abductions.

Officials now say the information that leads to Hailey's safe return is $15,000.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333006


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 19, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
THANK YOU for the Who's Who Thread, Klaas!!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

YW - I take it you are still on the old laptop?

I don't have time to add the names to Who's who but if anyone has some info they can put it there.  It will be helpful, yes.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
Slideshow: Newly Released Images of Hailey Dunn

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332726&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Breaks my heart to compare these pictures to the ones taken at Christmas on the sofa and in front of the fireplace. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree with you. 

HD looks like an outcast in the Photo.  I have an opinion why she is an outcast: DD resembles BD, and HD looks like the  Dad. BD has her hand resting on her son, I knew right away, why, it is because he looks just like her. The daughter looks just like the father.  This is why there is a  disconnection from her daughter, just an opinion. She wouldn't even fold up the kids clothes, the aunt or the mothers friend did the folding of the daughters clothes.

My guess is  BD was a good parent before the divorce. The child is adorable, smart, a good student.  BD did something right before she divorced her husband.:(  BD brains fell who she met SA.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 19, 2011, 01:39:24 PM
9-1-1 Calls Won't Help Find Hailey, Mom Says  (with video)

The release of 9-1-1 calls made by Billie Dunn last February aren't doing anything to help find her missing daughter, Dunn said Tuesday night.

The calls were made shortly after Dunn had temporarily broken up with her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, now a suspect in 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Dunn called police on Valentine's Day last year, asking if an officer could keep an eye on her home, fearing Adkins would try to steal something while she was at work.

"Shawn had taken a debit card after we had gotten into an argument, she said.  "We can say ugly things to each other."

A call later placed by Adkins said Billie was trying to kill herself.

"I wouldn't kill myself for sure.  I have two children and I'm really their only caregiver. I'm the one who buys their food, their clothes.  If they need me, I'm their mother."

In another call made to 9-1-1 on the same day, Dunn is heard telling the dispatcher that Adkins threatened to kill her via text message.

"If I had ever thought he was going to hurt my children or myself he would have been out of here and he wouldn't be back," she responded Tuesday night.

Dunn said since the arguments happened 11 months ago, she wants people to focus on the present and help bring her missing daughter home.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332976

What is wrong with her?  Why is she still trying to protect him?  I just don't get it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 01:42:09 PM
IM where on WS did you see that post on Billie maybe working in a strip club?  Guess the good friend of Billie also gave a farewell post over there but didn't see that either.

On the thread last night, IRC Texas was in her name....I did see her friend give up, she did say that if she found out the 911 call wasn't about the debit card and was a threat she would have to re-think things, makes you wonder WTH took her so long. So many lies, BS, and dancing around questions on NG when it is ALL out there in black and white and wrt the not asking Shawn about those hours , I would have asked that the first day, course I think she is a liar and is still siding with him over her daughter and protecting him, it just makes me sick sick sick to see that because IF she were alive, can you imagine how she'd feel seeing her mom tell a reporter she loved SA?

In the future, please post the link back to the thread.  We always want the link please. 

I didn't quote it specifically, I just condensed what I had read and posted my version here....I wasn't sure since it was rumor by Texasmom on WS, but it was this thread and the previous one where I read it last night, and it was the last pages of the previous thread and the first pages of this one before Tricia put the smack down on them. It's possible she even deleted them, I have no clue how WS works in that regards.....

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125655&page=22


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 02:04:45 PM
9-1-1 Calls Won't Help Find Hailey, Mom Says  (with video)

The release of 9-1-1 calls made by Billie Dunn last February aren't doing anything to help find her missing daughter, Dunn said Tuesday night.

The calls were made shortly after Dunn had temporarily broken up with her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, now a suspect in 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Dunn called police on Valentine's Day last year, asking if an officer could keep an eye on her home, fearing Adkins would try to steal something while she was at work.

"Shawn had taken a debit card after we had gotten into an argument, she said.  "We can say ugly things to each other."

A call later placed by Adkins said Billie was trying to kill herself.

"I wouldn't kill myself for sure.  I have two children and I'm really their only caregiver. I'm the one who buys their food, their clothes.  If they need me, I'm their mother."

In another call made to 9-1-1 on the same day, Dunn is heard telling the dispatcher that Adkins threatened to kill her via text message.

"If I had ever thought he was going to hurt my children or myself he would have been out of here and he wouldn't be back," she responded Tuesday night.

Dunn said since the arguments happened 11 months ago, she wants people to focus on the present and help bring her missing daughter home.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332976

Color me confused......did he threaten to kill her as she stated in the 911 call and he admitted to when LE was questioning him or did he not??? Kinda like, was she lying in the 911 call or now, or she lied to some degree both times ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 19, 2011, 02:09:18 PM
IM - you have been here long enough to know we ALWAYS want a link back to the source.  Now that link to the thread is useless unless we know where in the thread those comments were made.  I looked through that thread and since I am no longer a member at WS I can't search a members posts so I can't search Texasmom or that CzTGz person that is also supposed to be a local. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 02:12:55 PM
9-1-1 Calls Won't Help Find Hailey, Mom Says  (with video)

The release of 9-1-1 calls made by Billie Dunn last February aren't doing anything to help find her missing daughter, Dunn said Tuesday night.

The calls were made shortly after Dunn had temporarily broken up with her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, now a suspect in 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Dunn called police on Valentine's Day last year, asking if an officer could keep an eye on her home, fearing Adkins would try to steal something while she was at work.

"Shawn had taken a debit card after we had gotten into an argument, she said.  "We can say ugly things to each other."

A call later placed by Adkins said Billie was trying to kill herself.

"I wouldn't kill myself for sure.  I have two children and I'm really their only caregiver. I'm the one who buys their food, their clothes.  If they need me, I'm their mother."

In another call made to 9-1-1 on the same day, Dunn is heard telling the dispatcher that Adkins threatened to kill her via text message.

"If I had ever thought he was going to hurt my children or myself he would have been out of here and he wouldn't be back," she responded Tuesday night.

Dunn said since the arguments happened 11 months ago, she wants people to focus on the present and help bring her missing daughter home.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332976

What is wrong with her?  Why is she still trying to protect him?  I just don't get it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

If they need me, I'm their mother   ::MonkeyNoNo::  So if they don't need her then she is just Shawn's dirty woman?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 02:15:02 PM
IM where on WS did you see that post on Billie maybe working in a strip club?  Guess the good friend of Billie also gave a farewell post over there but didn't see that either.

On the thread last night, IRC Texas was in her name....I did see her friend give up, she did say that if she found out the 911 call wasn't about the debit card and was a threat she would have to re-think things, makes you wonder WTH took her so long. So many lies, BS, and dancing around questions on NG when it is ALL out there in black and white and wrt the not asking Shawn about those hours , I would have asked that the first day, course I think she is a liar and is still siding with him over her daughter and protecting him, it just makes me sick sick sick to see that because IF she were alive, can you imagine how she'd feel seeing her mom tell a reporter she loved SA?

In the future, please post the link back to the thread.  We always want the link please. 


Well, maybe not always..... ::MonkeyRoll::    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 19, 2011, 02:15:35 PM
Doesn't their dad help with food and clothes? She acts like they are just her kids.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 02:15:40 PM
Billie Dunn: 'We're Looking For A Living, Breathing Little Girl'

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The parents of missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn have not given hope. Far from it.

Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, said Wednesday there's one primary message she wants out: "We're looking for a living, breathing little girl. We're not looking for a corpse."

She made this statement through a spokesperson, a family friend who answered the door at her house in Colorado City. Billie Dunn has not spoken directly with KTXS since KTXS first released the law enforcement affidavits last week.

Clint Dunn, Hailey's father, also said he was not giving up hope. He met with volunteer searchers at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday at the bridge in the community of Dunn where a make-shift memorial has sprung up on the railings along the bridge.

The railing contains dozens and dozens of stuffed animals attached to the railings.

Clint Dunn thanked the volunteers in a brief emotional moment of prayer and encouragement. The search volunteers call themselves "Hailey's Angels."

Clint Dunn later said he is meeting with a private investigator Wednesday, and also with a psychic, to pursue any possible new leads. He said that he would not be going out with search parties through fields because he wouldn't want to see his daughter that way.

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26542518/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 02:17:47 PM
Fanny Mae  ::HelloKitty::

Here is one Granny.


On Tuesday, two men and a woman were seen coming out of the home of Adkin’s grandmother Renee Norwood, who lives in the community of Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City. The three unidentified individuals also were seen walking behind the Norwood house. The woman was seen holding a container and a latex glove. snip..

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/



Perhaps, Klaas, will give us permission to make a "Who's Who" list in the Hailey Dunn case?   ::MonkeyTongue::

I thought Shawn was staying in Dunn with her, but then there are so many reports he is in Big Spring with his grandma. I thought his Mama lived in Big Spring, but maybe he has another grandma there too.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 02:23:52 PM
9-1-1 Calls Won't Help Find Hailey, Mom Says  (with video)

The release of 9-1-1 calls made by Billie Dunn last February aren't doing anything to help find her missing daughter, Dunn said Tuesday night.

The calls were made shortly after Dunn had temporarily broken up with her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, now a suspect in 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Dunn called police on Valentine's Day last year, asking if an officer could keep an eye on her home, fearing Adkins would try to steal something while she was at work.

"Shawn had taken a debit card after we had gotten into an argument, she said.  "We can say ugly things to each other."

A call later placed by Adkins said Billie was trying to kill herself.

"I wouldn't kill myself for sure.  I have two children and I'm really their only caregiver. I'm the one who buys their food, their clothes.  If they need me, I'm their mother."

In another call made to 9-1-1 on the same day, Dunn is heard telling the dispatcher that Adkins threatened to kill her via text message.

"If I had ever thought he was going to hurt my children or myself he would have been out of here and he wouldn't be back," she responded Tuesday night.

Dunn said since the arguments happened 11 months ago, she wants people to focus on the present and help bring her missing daughter home.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332976

Color me confused......did he threaten to kill her as she stated in the 911 call and he admitted to when LE was questioning him or did he not??? Kinda like, was she lying in the 911 call or now, or she lied to some degree both times ::MonkeyTongue::

Billie? Lie?? Naw!!!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 02:26:21 PM
IM - you have been here long enough to know we ALWAYS want a link back to the source.  Now that link to the thread is useless unless we know where in the thread those comments were made.  I looked through that thread and since I am no longer a member at WS I can't search a members posts so I can't search Texasmom or that CzTGz person that is also supposed to be a local. 

That is why I said it was my condensed version of what I read and other posters asking questions....I didn't quote her because it happened over a several post that covered more than one page. I always thought we needed to link info that was a direct quote, news story etc., but I even forget those sometimes...Sorry, next time I will link back to the beginning of the post that started it, as opposed to every page of the thread it was on as that can be even more confusing.

CZTGZ didn't comment on this to my recollection, it was Texasmom and random other posters asking questions.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
Billie Dunn: 'We're Looking For A Living, Breathing Little Girl'

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The parents of missing Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn have not given hope. Far from it.

Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, said Wednesday there's one primary message she wants out: "We're looking for a living, breathing little girl. We're not looking for a corpse."

She made this statement through a spokesperson, a family friend who answered the door at her house in Colorado City. Billie Dunn has not spoken directly with KTXS since KTXS first released the law enforcement affidavits last week.

Clint Dunn, Hailey's father, also said he was not giving up hope. He met with volunteer searchers at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday at the bridge in the community of Dunn where a make-shift memorial has sprung up on the railings along the bridge.

The railing contains dozens and dozens of stuffed animals attached to the railings.

Clint Dunn thanked the volunteers in a brief emotional moment of prayer and encouragement. The search volunteers call themselves "Hailey's Angels."

Clint Dunn later said he is meeting with a private investigator Wednesday, and also with a psychic, to pursue any possible new leads. He said that he would not be going out with search parties through fields because he wouldn't want to see his daughter that way.

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26542518/detail.html

I think every parent holds onto the hope their child is alive until the bitter end. I have great compassion for Clint, although he made his mistake with Hailey too.  But how Billie can refer to Hailey as a corpse without totally breaking down is beyond me.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 02:32:41 PM
Slideshow: Newly Released Images of Hailey Dunn

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332726&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Thanks Northern Rose.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 19, 2011, 02:33:59 PM
Fanny Mae  ::HelloKitty::

Here is one Granny.


On Tuesday, two men and a woman were seen coming out of the home of Adkin’s grandmother Renee Norwood, who lives in the community of Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City. The three unidentified individuals also were seen walking behind the Norwood house. The woman was seen holding a container and a latex glove. snip..

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/



Perhaps, Klaas, will give us permission to make a "Who's Who" list in the Hailey Dunn case?   ::MonkeyTongue::

I thought Shawn was staying in Dunn with her, but then there are so many reports he is in Big Spring with his grandma. I thought his Mama lived in Big Spring, but maybe he has another grandma there too.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: about the linking of the site Fannie ::MonkeyTongue::

WRT the mom, I thought she was in Big Spring and the gma was in Dunn (although this case has me thoroughly confused, I swear I need a valium to watch Billie on TV) and I recall Rupka stating he was at the Gma's and I recall the shiny black truck being mentioned as his uncle's truck. They never showed it but remember the one I posted we thought was not in that area, I am wondering if that is the truck? It was shiny and IIRC that was his Colton was his uncle?

I know it has to be a full moon, it's craziness on this case and IRL today....shazam I need a drink already!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 19, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986          Shawn's lawyer speaks.   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 02:57:28 PM
9-1-1 Calls Won't Help Find Hailey, Mom Says  (with video)

The release of 9-1-1 calls made by Billie Dunn last February aren't doing anything to help find her missing daughter, Dunn said Tuesday night.

The calls were made shortly after Dunn had temporarily broken up with her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, now a suspect in 13-year-old Hailey Dunn's disappearance.

Dunn called police on Valentine's Day last year, asking if an officer could keep an eye on her home, fearing Adkins would try to steal something while she was at work.

"Shawn had taken a debit card after we had gotten into an argument, she said.  "We can say ugly things to each other."

A call later placed by Adkins said Billie was trying to kill herself.

"I wouldn't kill myself for sure.  I have two children and I'm really their only caregiver. I'm the one who buys their food, their clothes.[/b]  If they need me, I'm their mother."

In another call made to 9-1-1 on the same day, Dunn is heard telling the dispatcher that Adkins threatened to kill her via text message.

"If I had ever thought he was going to hurt my children or myself he would have been out of here and he wouldn't be back," she responded Tuesday night.

Dunn said since the arguments happened 11 months ago, she wants people to focus on the present and help bring her missing daughter home.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332976

Is Clint employed?

Does Clint pay Billie child support for David and Hailey?

Does Clint have a criminal record?

Was Clint made aware by LE of the 911 calls by Billie that stated that his life was being threatened by Shawn.  What action did he take in regards to the safety of his kids?

Was Clint informed by his mother regarding Hailey's fear of Shawn?  What action did he take to distance his daughter from that environment.

Consider David and Hailey spent a lot of time at the house across the field ... was Clint aware of the negative environment where his children resided?  Did he take any steps through legal channels to protect his children?

Why is Billie being villified in regards to her past actions/poor choices that put her children at risk while Clint is given a pass?

I believe that both Clint and Billie failed their children big time but ... the issue is the disappearance of Hailey.  The evasive/deceptive actions of Shawn on the morning of December 27th implies that this guy should be the focus of attention.

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 03:19:03 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986          Shawn's lawyer speaks.   

I wish Shawn's attorney would provide a good explanation:

1.  Why his client left his workplace a very short period following his arrival on the morning of December 27th?

2.  Why his client returned home at 6:30 AM prior to driving to Big Springs?

3.  What his client was doing in the cell phone silence in regards to pings between 7:00 AM (Colorado City) and 9:00 AM (Big Springs).

4.  Why his client was deceptive/evasive/not forthcoming in regards to all of the above.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: EintheB on January 19, 2011, 03:25:25 PM
Timeline, Who's Who, and What's Where for Hailey's case:

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 03:29:40 PM
Timeline, Who's Who, and What's Where for Hailey's case:

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/

Thanks EINTHEB
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/2sgn054groupwelcome-1.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 04:08:45 PM
When Shaw suddenly left his workplace on the morning of December 27th ... why did he stop at home prior to driving to Big Spring?

Why did Shawn not want this stop revealed ... not even to Billie?

Could it be that known only to Shawn ... Hailey was not still sleeping in her bed ... she was deceased?  Could something have happened to Hailey during the night?

Why did Shawn drive to Big Spring on that particular morning?  Could it be that trusted assistance in the disposal of a body could be found on the route to Big Spring?

Janet

++++++

Assistance?

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: ... They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. I told them I had so much faith in that test.

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it, lost all faith in the test. A couple of other people failed it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 04:23:25 PM
False Rumors Spreading about Dunn's Whereabouts

Rumors circulating online that a body was found in a landfill are not true, Colorado City city manager Pete Kampfer said.

Kampfer, who has been acting as a spokesperson for the investigation, said his phone is blowing up with calls from people who heard that Hailey Dunn's body had possibly been discovered.

The false statements started on Facebook, Kampfer said. He called Bigcountryhomepage.com asking that we help squash the rumor.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333126


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 04:26:34 PM
Who is Hailey?

If you live in the Big Country and haven’t heard about the Hailey Dunn case, chances are you’ve been living under a rock. She’s been the focus of our newscasts for 3 weeks. Her face is on billboards and fliers statewide. Hundreds of people are looking for this 13 year old girl.

It dawned on me the other day that we’ve been so focused on the search, the investigation, the specifics of the last day she was seen and the only named suspect in the case Shawn Adkins, her mother’s live-in boyfriend, that we may have lost sight of who Hailey Dunn is.

By all accounts, she’s your typical teenage girl. One look around her room shows that. Pink walls, pillows that say “princess”, memorabilia from school tacked up on the walls.

It’s not a secret she is a cheerleader. She’s wearing her uniform in the picture on those billboards and fliers. And she loves to cheer.

But she also loves to play basketball, softball and volleyball and she's first chair saxophone player in the school band.

Her teachers say she’s a good student and very popular at Colorado Middle School.

Like most teenage girls, Hailey has a best friend, Heather. She loves having sleepovers. Heather says they like to stay up late listening to music and watching videos on YouTube.

We don’t know where Hailey is, but we know she isn’t doing any of the things she loves. Not cheering. Not playing basketball, watching videos.

She should be spending her evenings doing homework, playing with her siblings and friends, picking out what she’s going to wear to school tomorrow, practicing her cheers.

We all want answers. We are all praying for Hailey’s safe return. And if something bad has happened to her, we want the person responsible to be punished.

But mostly we just want this little girl to be able to be the fun-loving teenager we now know her to be. Every child deserves that.

If you know Hailey and want to share some stories about her, I'd love to hear them.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/news-blog-yellow-brick-lane/?nxd_id=333116


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Investigators mum on results of landfill search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn
City to add two officers to police force


COLORADO CITY — The search of the Abilene landfill last week may or may not have turned up evidence involved in the Hailey Dunn case, said Pete Kampfer, city manager in Colorado City and a spokesman for the task force investigating the teen’s disappearance.

“You can say they may have found evidence,” Kampfer said, adding that there has been no confirmation by task force officials about whether anything was found during the search of the Allied Waste Services landfill on Thursday and Friday.

About a dozen officers from the Abilene Police Department searched through piles of debris last week. Cadaver dogs, trained in locating human remains, were on the scene as well.

Also last week, investigators named Shawn Adkins, 25, the former boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Jean Dunn, as a suspect.

Adkins has declined repeated requests by the Reporter-News for interviews. He maintained his innocence in an interview last week with The Associated Press. Adkins has been staying at his grandmother’s home since Billie Jean Dunn asked him to leave on Jan. 5.

Kampfer said Adkins is under 24-hour surveillance by law enforcement.

On Tuesday, two men and a woman were seen coming out of the home of Adkin’s grandmother Renee Norwood, who lives in the community of Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City. The three unidentified individuals also were seen walking behind the Norwood house. The woman was seen holding a container and a latex glove.

Billie Jean Dunn made another appearance on TV personality Nancy Grace’s program Tuesday night on HLN.

“As long as I can believe Hailey’s alive, I’m going to believe that,” she told Grace. Billie Jean Dunn said authorities have seized the sheets from Hailey’s bed. Grace reported that police are investigating whether Adkins had access to sulfuric acid.

However, Kampfer said no such information has been released by police.

Kampfer said officials have not said whether they plan to make an arrest soon.

“A body or bodily fluid would certainly bolster the case,” Kampfer said, “but I do not know what the prosecutors are planning.”

Also on Tuesday, Kampfer announced that he would be adding two full-time police officers to the city’s force, which currently consists of six officers, including the interim chief. The jobs will pay between $30,000 and $35,000 depending on experience.

He said two patrol officers will be hired and that the positions are permanent.

“We were going to hire some more staff to work in the city,” Kampfer said.

The search for Dunn, 13, is primarily a criminal investigation, Kampfer said.

“But we are still looking at the missing person aspect of the case,” he said.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 04:34:10 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."

Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 04:36:31 PM
Volunteers Coordinating With Law Enforcement In Search For Hailey Dunn

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- About 50-55 people are combing areas near Colorado City, searching for missing teen Hailey Dunn, and, for the first time, in a search coordinated with law enforcement.

The groups of people are searching areas at the request of law enforcement authorities who are also following their leads.

The volunteers responded after both KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Project arrived Tuesday to help coordinate volunteer searches. KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Project are national organizations that help organize searches for missing children.

After a briefing at the Colorado City Civic Center, the volunteers split into two smaller groups to begin an organized grid search.

KTXS News has learned that Mark Klaas, the leader of his organization, will arrive in Colorado City this evening.

Volunteers are being asked to meet daily at the Colorado City Civic Center to join the search. Whenever 10 or more volunteers gather, they'll be sent out as part of the coordinated search, officials said.

The earliest search parties will be sent beginning at 9 a.m. Other search parties will be put together as volunteers gather throughout the day.

Thirteen-year-old Hailey has been missing since Dec. 27. Shawn Adkins, the former live-in boyfriend of Hailey's mother was the last person to see Hailey. Adkins has been named a suspect in the case.

We have a crew in Colorado City with the search team and will have the latest in the case tonight on KTXS News at Five and Six.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26541660/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 04:38:13 PM
Slideshow: Volunteer Groups Gather, Renew Search For Hailey Dunn

http://www.ktxs.com/slideshow/news/26543069/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 04:43:29 PM
Investigators mum on results of landfill search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn
City to add two officers to police force


COLORADO CITY — The search of the Abilene landfill last week may or may not have turned up evidence involved in the Hailey Dunn case, said Pete Kampfer, city manager in Colorado City and a spokesman for the task force investigating the teen’s disappearance.

“You can say they may have found evidence,” Kampfer said, adding that there has been no confirmation by task force officials about whether anything was found during the search of the Allied Waste Services landfill on Thursday and Friday.

About a dozen officers from the Abilene Police Department searched through piles of debris last week. Cadaver dogs, trained in locating human remains, were on the scene as well.

Also last week, investigators named Shawn Adkins, 25, the former boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Jean Dunn, as a suspect.

Adkins has declined repeated requests by the Reporter-News for interviews. He maintained his innocence in an interview last week with The Associated Press. Adkins has been staying at his grandmother’s home since Billie Jean Dunn asked him to leave on Jan. 5.

Kampfer said Adkins is under 24-hour surveillance by law enforcement.

On Tuesday, two men and a woman were seen coming out of the home of Adkin’s grandmother Renee Norwood, who lives in the community of Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City. The three unidentified individuals also were seen walking behind the Norwood house. The woman was seen holding a container and a latex glove.

Billie Jean Dunn made another appearance on TV personality Nancy Grace’s program Tuesday night on HLN.

“As long as I can believe Hailey’s alive, I’m going to believe that,” she told Grace. Billie Jean Dunn said authorities have seized the sheets from Hailey’s bed. Grace reported that police are investigating whether Adkins had access to sulfuric acid.

However, Kampfer said no such information has been released by police.

Kampfer said officials have not said whether they plan to make an arrest soon.

“A body or bodily fluid would certainly bolster the case,” Kampfer said, “but I do not know what the prosecutors are planning.”

Also on Tuesday, Kampfer announced that he would be adding two full-time police officers to the city’s force, which currently consists of six officers, including the interim chief. The jobs will pay between $30,000 and $35,000 depending on experience.

He said two patrol officers will be hired and that the positions are permanent.

“We were going to hire some more staff to work in the city,” Kampfer said.

The search for Dunn, 13, is primarily a criminal investigation, Kampfer said.

“But we are still looking at the missing person aspect of the case,” he said.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/

Have I said lately I think Kampfer is a full blown idiot?? "Yes it is!" No it isn't."  "Well maybe it is." "We found something." "No we didn't." "We think Hailey is a runaway." "But we are looking for her in the landfills." "We're hiring two more officers, then we will solve the case." "What time's dinner?" "Who's paying?" (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/073.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 04:58:02 PM
Slideshow: Volunteer Groups Gather, Renew Search For Hailey Dunn

http://www.ktxs.com/slideshow/news/26543069/detail.html

God bless them. The volunteers get out there every day and look.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 05:53:36 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332786

Colorado City, TX -   KTAB News has obtained 911 calls made in February 2010 related to a domestic dispute during which, according to police affidavits, Shawn Adkins allegedly threatened to kill 13-year-old Hailey Dunn and her mother.
Adkins is the boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Dunn, and the only confirmed suspect in the girl’s disappearance. According to police, Adkins was the last person to see Hailey on December 27: the day she went missing.

According to search warrant affidavits filed after Hailey's disappearance, Adkins admitted to investigators that he threatened the lives of both Billie and Hailey during a domestic dispute.

The three 911 calls, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, refer to threats made against Billie and her estranged husband, Clint, but not against Hailey.

In the first call, made to Colorado City police at approximately 11:30 a.m. on Feb. 14, Billie Dunn told a dispatcher that she was at work in Snyder and feared Adkins was going to enter her home and take something.

Dunn: “My boyfriend and I just broke up yesterday, but he’s saying that he’s going to go in my house and get his t-shirt and I don’t want him in there while I’m gone because I don’t know what he’ll take. I don’t trust him enough to go in there."

Dunn went on to tell dispatchers that she feared Adkins could take a television or her son’s X-Box. Dunn also revealed that she rarely locked the windows or doors.

The dispatcher told Dunn that it was not possible for an officer to stand by her house all day, but said she would inform police.

Three and a half hours later, Dunn made a second call to 911 claiming Adkins threatened her life.

Dunn: “I broke up with this guy a couple days ago and he’s a little ‘MHMR.' He’s telling me that he’s going to kill me and my ex-husband. And it’s going to be remembered for a long time.”

Dunn said Adkins made the repeated threats via text message.

“I texted back just to try and calm him down a little, but he said it’s going to happen.”

In a second portion of the call released to KTAB News, the dispatcher is heard telling the officer that it was Dunn making the request for assistance.

“(She has) been going all day,” the officer replied.

The third call was made from a Snyder police officer to Colorado City police around 4:30 p.m. on the same day, informing dispatchers that he had received a call from Adkins.

Officer: “We got a call over here from her boyfriend say that she’s possible suicidal, threatening to take a bunch of pills."

Dispatcher: “We’ve been having a big problem with those two all day.”

The affidavits signed on Jan. 7 say Adkins originally told authorities that he never threatened Hailey during the dispute, but that he then admitting to threaten the lives of both Hailey and Billie.


Click here to listen to the first 911 call made by Billie Dunn on 02/14/10

Click here to listen to the second 911 call made by Billie Dunn on 02/14/10

Click here to listen a 911 call made from Snyder PD to Colorado City PD about the Dunn/Adkins domestic dispute


Billie did not report Shawn threatening Hailey ... only threatening her and Clint.  According to affidavits ....it was Shawn who apparently admitted to interrogators following the disappearance that he had threatened Hailey.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 05:55:25 PM
911 calls from February 2010

Call 1
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617046

Call 2
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617056

Call 3
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617096


Bumped


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2011, 06:06:45 PM
IM - you have been here long enough to know we ALWAYS want a link back to the source.  Now that link to the thread is useless unless we know where in the thread those comments were made.  I looked through that thread and since I am no longer a member at WS I can't search a members posts so I can't search Texasmom or that CzTGz person that is also supposed to be a local. 

That is why I said it was my condensed version of what I read and other posters asking questions....I didn't quote her because it happened over a several post that covered more than one page. I always thought we needed to link info that was a direct quote, news story etc., but I even forget those sometimes...Sorry, next time I will link back to the beginning of the post that started it, as opposed to every page of the thread it was on as that can be even more confusing.

CZTGZ didn't comment on this to my recollection, it was Texasmom and random other posters asking questions.

Island Monkey ::HelloKitty::

Please stay off the KGB forum  ::MonkeyHaHa:: They are stingy ::MonkeyHaHa:: We are generous Monkey's ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 06:11:30 PM
Hailey's Older Brother Taken Into Temporary State Family Protective Custody

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS learned Wednesday that Hailey Dunn's older brother, David, has been taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.


Meanwhile, also on Wednesday, for the first time, law enforcement worked with volunteer searchers and two national foundations to give them direction.

KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center Foundation trained volunteers Wednesday morning how to go about searching for Hailey.

Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, joined the group of about 55 searchers, to offer up his support.

"I don't want to join in the search – I can't," he said. "I don't want to. It's just amazing seeing these people the community pull together like this."

He said he can't search because he's not willing to face what could be found in the fields.

Clint Dunn especially took time today to thank and motivate "Hailey's Angels," a name given to those who have searched for weeks now.

Out in the field, volunteers covered ground that law enforcement flagged to KlaasKids search director Brad Dennis.

KlaasKids plans to be here throughout the weekend, but officials say that's not when the search ends.

"You search until you get answers," Dennis said.

Local volunteers say the help is huge. "It's a lot more organized," said searcher Glenda Turner.

"I'm not as young as a lot of people, but I'm sticking it out and going to do it," said Shirley Crawford.

They all say they'll search until Hailey is found.

"Unfortunately, we are looking wooded areas, and anything your going to find out here is not something you want to find," Holly Jenkins said.

Meanwhile, law enforcement officials are keeping a tight lid on their investigation..

Kampfer did say the search in area landfills may not be over yet.

Volunteers will meet again Thursday morning at the Colorado City Civic Center.

Anyone is welcome to come join the search.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 06:21:49 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I totally agree with you. I can't think of any other case either. Sounds like the noose is tightening on Billie. As far as Kampfer, see my previous post.. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 06:23:51 PM
Is Billie going to be on Nancy Grace again tonight? This is beginning to feel like "Groundhog Day."  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 06:25:53 PM
Official: Contrary to widespread rumor, body not found in Coleman landfill


COLORADO CITY – A rumor that a body, possibly that of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn, had been found in the Coleman landfill is untrue, an official close to the investigation reported this afternoon.

Pete Kampfer, Colorado City city manager and spokesman for the investigation, said he has had no reports of any findings at the landfills, either in Abilene or in Coleman. The rumors apparently surfaced on Facebook.

“I am 100 percent sure that no body has been found in Coleman,” Kampfer said.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 06:27:08 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I totally agree with you. I can't think of any other case either. Sounds like the noose is tightening on Billie. As far as Kampfer, see my previous post.. ::MonkeyRoll::

Billie?

What about Shawn?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 06:27:44 PM
Is Billie going to be on Nancy Grace again tonight? This is beginning to feel like "Groundhog Day."  ::rhino::

drlillianglass Dr. Lillian Glass
Dr.Lillian Glass will be on Nancy Grace show tonight discussing missing Hailey Dunn & mother who's son drown in bathub while she was on FB
1 hour ago
http://twitter.com/#!/drlillianglass


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 06:32:48 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I agree.  It does not make sense.  Is David privy to more than has been revealed regarding his encounter with Shawn on the afternoon of December 27th.

Janet

+++++

EXCLUSIVE: Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 7:23 am CST January 12, 2011

December 27th - 4:00 PM

On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.

According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.

David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 06:33:24 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."
Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html
  So Mr Lyle doesn't know that EL PASO is a border town to MEXICO???? Am I missing something in this statement? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 06:34:36 PM
Official: Contrary to widespread rumor, body not found in Coleman landfill


COLORADO CITY – A rumor that a body, possibly that of missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn, had been found in the Coleman landfill is untrue, an official close to the investigation reported this afternoon.

Pete Kampfer, Colorado City city manager and spokesman for the investigation, said he has had no reports of any findings at the landfills, either in Abilene or in Coleman. The rumors apparently surfaced on Facebook.

“I am 100 percent sure that no body has been found in Coleman,” Kampfer said.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Coleman? I thought they searched the landfills in Colorado City, Lubbock & Abilene.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 06:35:46 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



Why wouldn't they just have his father take custody of David Dunn???  or an Aunt or Grandparent?
Why an agency?
I am very confused.

I totally agree with you. I can't think of any other case either. Sounds like the noose is tightening on Billie. As far as Kampfer, see my previous post.. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 06:36:47 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It has been a long time since I jumped into someone else's box.
I am sorry.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 06:37:42 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It has been a long time since I jumped into someone else's box.
I am sorry.

This is my comment wrt DD being taken into protective custody:

Why wouldn't they just have his father take custody of David Dunn???  or an Aunt or Grandparent?
Why an agency?
I am very confused.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 06:37:52 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I totally agree with you. I can't think of any other case either. Sounds like the noose is tightening on Billie. As far as Kampfer, see my previous post.. ::MonkeyRoll::

Billie?

What about Shawn?

Janet

It was Billie David was taken away from. We already know Shawn has been named a suspect.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on January 19, 2011, 06:39:48 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I totally agree with you. I can't think of any other case either. Sounds like the noose is tightening on Billie. As far as Kampfer, see my previous post.. ::MonkeyRoll::

Billie?

What about Shawn?

Janet

To me it appears that "the noose is tightening around billie" and was stated that way because if DD was taken in to state custody then his parent(s)/ gaurdian did something harmful/illegal! hence why billie was the only one mentioned


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 06:42:39 PM
Coleman is about 60 miles south of Abilene. I wonder if some of the trash from Colorado City is diverted to Coleman.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 06:42:46 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."
Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html
  So Mr Lyle doesn't know that EL PASO is a border town to MEXICO???? Am I missing something in this statement? TIA JSM
He's angling for a position of expert witness on cell pings for Baez's duhfence team.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 06:46:23 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."
Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html
  So Mr Lyle doesn't know that EL PASO is a border town to MEXICO???? Am I missing something in this statement? TIA JSM
He's angling for a position of expert witness on cell pings for Baez's duhfence team.

I think someone on the thread posted Lyle's history and he isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. You can throw a rock and hit Mexico from El Paso.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 06:47:00 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."
Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html
  So Mr Lyle doesn't know that EL PASO is a border town to MEXICO???? Am I missing something in this statement? TIA JSM
He's angling for a position of expert witness on cell pings for Baez's duhfence team.
  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Good one 4 donks!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 06:47:04 PM
4DONKS!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 06:47:20 PM
O/T I just posted links to an interview AY gave today about Zahara.  Have nothing near you that you can throw or is breakable when you watch them


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 06:48:25 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."
Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html
  So Mr Lyle doesn't know that EL PASO is a border town to MEXICO???? Am I missing something in this statement? TIA JSM
He's angling for a position of expert witness on cell pings for Baez's duhfence team.

I think someone on the thread posted Lyle's history and he isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. You can throw a rock and hit Mexico from El Paso.  ::MonkeyDevil::
I haven't seen his history Fanny, seems like he must be in the league with Baez in the idiot factor.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 06:51:07 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."
Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html
  So Mr Lyle doesn't know that EL PASO is a border town to MEXICO???? Am I missing something in this statement? TIA JSM
He's angling for a position of expert witness on cell pings for Baez's duhfence team.

I think someone on the thread posted Lyle's history and he isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. You can throw a rock and hit Mexico from El Paso.  ::MonkeyDevil::
I haven't seen his history Fanny, seems like he must be in the league with Baez in the idiot factor.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I posted about him yesterday.  Not nice things said by a former client. 

Worst excuse ever for a lawyer needs to be disembarred

Client Review:
My family paid this guy to represent us an a civil case. Not only did he lie to us about ever filing any paperwork with the court but he had a default judgement brought against us which costed us the ENTIRE case, about 90,000 dollars, then he disappears with know way to reach him. If you would like to be screwed over then by all means hire sidney lyle of odessa tx.

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/79762-tx-sidney-lyle-101056/reviews.html#50121


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 06:53:23 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."
Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html
  So Mr Lyle doesn't know that EL PASO is a border town to MEXICO???? Am I missing something in this statement? TIA JSM
He's angling for a position of expert witness on cell pings for Baez's duhfence team.

I think someone on the thread posted Lyle's history and he isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. You can throw a rock and hit Mexico from El Paso.  ::MonkeyDevil::
I haven't seen his history Fanny, seems like he must be in the league with Baez in the idiot factor.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I posted about him yesterday.  Not nice things said by a former client. 

Worst excuse ever for a lawyer needs to be disembarred

Client Review:
My family paid this guy to represent us an a civil case. Not only did he lie to us about ever filing any paperwork with the court but he had a default judgement brought against us which costed us the ENTIRE case, about 90,000 dollars, then he disappears with know way to reach him. If you would like to be screwed over then by all means hire sidney lyle of odessa tx.

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/79762-tx-sidney-lyle-101056/reviews.html#50121
  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks Northern.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 06:55:43 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."
Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html
  So Mr Lyle doesn't know that EL PASO is a border town to MEXICO???? Am I missing something in this statement? TIA JSM
He's angling for a position of expert witness on cell pings for Baez's duhfence team.

I think someone on the thread posted Lyle's history and he isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. You can throw a rock and hit Mexico from El Paso.  ::MonkeyDevil::
I haven't seen his history Fanny, seems like he must be in the league with Baez in the idiot factor.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I posted about him yesterday.  Not nice things said by a former client. 

Worst excuse ever for a lawyer needs to be disembarred

Client Review:
My family paid this guy to represent us an a civil case. Not only did he lie to us about ever filing any paperwork with the court but he had a default judgement brought against us which costed us the ENTIRE case, about 90,000 dollars, then he disappears with know way to reach him. If you would like to be screwed over then by all means hire sidney lyle of odessa tx.

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/79762-tx-sidney-lyle-101056/reviews.html#50121
Why does the story read the guy is from Ft Worth, but the review is of Sidney Lyle in Odessa?? Did he move?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 06:55:44 PM
Investigation narrows in case of missing Texas cheerleader

"Nancy Grace" has all the latest on the Hailey Dunn case. Tonight, 8.p.m. on HLN

CNN) -- A man authorities believe was the last person to see a missing Texas cheerleader is the focus of the investigation, but his attorney said Wednesday he is being wrongly accused.

Shawn Adkins, the live-in boyfriend of Hailey Dunn's mother, is the only named person of interest in the girl's December disappearance, authorities said.

Adkins' attorney, Sidney Lyle of Odessa, told CNN affiliate KTAB in Abilene he has advised his client not to speak further with the media. Lyle did not respond to CNN's attempts to talk to him.

There have been no arrests in the disappearance of the Colorado City girl, 13, but police consider the case a criminal investigation. Two volunteer organizations have recently joined the search.

City Manager Pete Kampfer, who serves as spokesman for the police, told CNN Wednesday there are other persons of interest but "there are more things that relate" to Adkins. He would not provide specifics.

Affidavits in the case indicate Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, and Adkins failed polygraph exams on Hailey's whereabouts.

According to the affidavits, Adkins ended two polygraph exams by walking out. On the third try, he failed the initial part of the test, but he then "made a positive indication" that the girl could be found in Scurry County, Texas. Dunn said Adkins was on anxiety medication at the time of the first test.

Dunn was under the influence of narcotics on her first polygraph examination, and she failed the second, according to a law enforcement affidavit posted on the website of KTAB.

Adkins was the last person to see the eighth-grader on December 27 at Dunn's home, according to local reports. Colorado City -- a rural central Texas town with about 5,000 residents -- is about 70 miles west of Abilene, Texas. Hailey was reported missing by her mother December 28.

The Colorado City Police Department responded to a domestic dispute in February 2010 after Adkins allegedly threatened Billie and Hailey Dunn, the released documents show. Adkins confirmed he did make the threats, according to documents.

KTAB on Wednesday posted three 911 calls on its website from the February incident. The calls referred to threats made against Billie Dunn and her estranged husband, Clint, but not against Hailey, the station said.

In one 911 call, Billie Dunn said, "I broke up with this guy a couple days ago and he's a little 'MHMR.' He's telling me that he's going to kill me and my ex-husband. And it's going to be remembered for a long time."

MHMR can refer to "mental health and mental retardation."

Asked about the 911 calls, Kampfer said, "They add to the case against Shawn."

Investigators have found evidence both in Colorado City and in other locations, said Kampfer, a former special agent with the FBI.

Dunn has said she has no idea what happened to her daughter.

"Somebody knows where she is," she told HLN last week.

The mother told HLN's "Nancy Grace" Tuesday that investigators took bedsheets belonging to Hailey.

Kampfer would not confirm that, but did say Dunn was given an inventory list of items taken by police from the home.

Billie Dunn met Adkins on the MySpace social networking site more than two years ago, and he moved in with her several months ago. Kampfer described the family situation as unstable.

Hailey is 5 feet 2 inches tall and weighs 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair with blond streaks. When she disappeared, she was wearing navy blue sweatpants, a light-colored short-sleeve T-shirt and pink and white tennis shoes.

Investigators, meanwhile, continue to work through leads. "It's a smaller circle," Kampfer said of the evidence.

"We are growingly concerned about her status," he said of Hailey.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/19/texas.missing.cheerleader/index.html?section=cnn_latest


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 06:58:51 PM
I don't know JSM.  When Lyle first became SA's lawyer there was an article by another lawyer that stated Lyle was from Odessa.  KTAB reported he was from Odessa today as well.    Maybe he has two offices?

<snipped>

Attorney Sidney Lyle, of Odessa, spoke with bigcountryhomepage.com over the phone earlier today but declined requests to have the conversation recorded for playback.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:03:59 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."

Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html

Why did Shawn abruptly leave his workplace shortly following his arrival on the morning of December 27th?

Why was Billie unaware on January 3rd that Shawn had not been at work on December 27th?

Why did Shawn state that he quit and/or was fired as the reason he left work?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 3, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Tell me what happened the day she went missing, Miss Dunn.

DUNN: She went missing on Monday while I was at work. My boyfriend - - he came home from work about 3:00 -- or he got to my house about 3:00. And he`s seen Hailey. Hailey was there. She told him, I`m running across the street to my dad`s house for a few minutes but I`m going Mary Beth`s, and I`m staying the night there. Let my mom know.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/03/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: OK. Last night, didn`t you tell me he was on his way home from work, or did I just get that mistaken?

BILLIE DUNN: No, I said that. He went in Monday morning, but there was an argument. He was fired or there was just a big blow-up there. He walked out. He left his job by 6:30 in the morning and went to Big Spring (ph) to his mom`s house.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


WEED: His boss says that no, he wasn`t fired. That in fact he is a good employee and he just left without saying a word

GRACE: OK, let me see the map again. So he`s at work. And give me the timeline again, please.

WEED: OK. So he arrives at work at 6:00 in the morning. He leaves at 6:10. But that --

GRACE: Wait, wait. He gets to work at 6:00, he -- gets a drink out of the soda machine and then leaves?

WEED: Yes.

GRACE: OK. Back to the map.

WEED: OK. So then, Nancy, he tells police according to this affidavit that he goes directly to his mother`s house located in Big Springs, Texas. But police say no, his cell phone is pinging in Colorado City where Hailey`s home is located.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 07:04:44 PM
I don't know JSM.  When Lyle first became SA's lawyer there was an article by another lawyer that stated Lyle was from Odessa.  KTAB reported he was from Odessa today as well.    Maybe he has two offices?

<snipped>

Attorney Sidney Lyle, of Odessa, spoke with bigcountryhomepage.com over the phone earlier today but declined requests to have the conversation recorded for playback.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986
Thanks Northern, that makes sense, a lot of attorneys in Texas have offices in different cities, but Odessa is a long way to commute from Fort Worth.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 07:05:35 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It has been a long time since I jumped into someone else's box.
I am sorry.

This is my comment wrt DD being taken into protective custody:

Why wouldn't they just have his father take custody of David Dunn???  or an Aunt or Grandparent?
Why an agency?
I am very confused.


Maybe it's protective custody. They may think he's in danger because of what he knows.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 07:07:45 PM
I don't know JSM.  When Lyle first became SA's lawyer there was an article by another lawyer that stated Lyle was from Odessa.  KTAB reported he was from Odessa today as well.    Maybe he has two offices?

<snipped>

Attorney Sidney Lyle, of Odessa, spoke with bigcountryhomepage.com over the phone earlier today but declined requests to have the conversation recorded for playback.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986
Sure enough you are right.... 
Mr. Sidney Allen Lyle Jr.
Bar Card Number: 00795026 Work Address: 1400 n grandview

Odessa, TX 79762 Work Phone Number: 432-266-8094 Primary Practice Location: Keller , Texas

http://texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=156954

I can't believe his work address is in Odessa, but primary practice location is Keller. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 07:08:28 PM
A different review of Lyle   ::MonkeyCool::

Sidney Lyle
Lawyer

State/Prov.:   TX
City:   Odessa

Lied and said my brothers sentence was reduced by half and we checked and nothing had ever been done. We paid him $25,000.00 for nothing.

http://www.lawyerratingz.com/ratings/10108/Lawyer-Sidney-Lyle.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:09:14 PM
Adkins' Lawyer: Phone Records Could Be Incorrect

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The lawyer representing the only named suspect in the disappearance of Hailey Dunn, Shawn Adkins, says that phone records placing Adkins in the vicinity of the Dunn residence early on Dec. 27, when he told authorities he was somewhere else, could be incorrect.

Fort Worth-based attorney Sidney Lyle told KTXS News on Wednesday that, in his own experience, phone records can show use in one area when the phone user was in a different location.

"Personally," Lyle said, "I've been in El Paso and had my phone records show I was in Mexico when I wasn't anywhere close to there."

Lyle said he hasn't seen any of the phone records whose details were released in affidavits concerning the Hailey Dunn investigation, He said, though, that "a 'ping' to a tower is not going to say to me he's there," referring to Adkins' phone indicating to towers where he was on the day Hailey went missing.

Lyle also said he was misquoted as saying Adkins' has been "wrongfully accused" – since there have been no official accusations.

He said Adkins has cooperated with law enforcement on more than one occasion and has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

On Tuesday Lyle had told KTXS News he wasn't going to speak publicly about his client or the on-going investigation until "some point in the future."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26543967/detail.html

My client is innocent.  No need to look at the evidence.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 07:12:50 PM
A different review of Lyle   ::MonkeyCool::

Sidney Lyle
Lawyer

State/Prov.:   TX
City:   Odessa

Lied and said my brothers sentence was reduced by half and we checked and nothing had ever been done. We paid him $25,000.00 for nothing.

http://www.lawyerratingz.com/ratings/10108/Lawyer-Sidney-Lyle.html
Thanks Northern, guy sounds like a complete sleaze bag aka Baez.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 07:14:31 PM
I don't know JSM.  When Lyle first became SA's lawyer there was an article by another lawyer that stated Lyle was from Odessa.  KTAB reported he was from Odessa today as well.    Maybe he has two offices?

<snipped>

Attorney Sidney Lyle, of Odessa, spoke with bigcountryhomepage.com over the phone earlier today but declined requests to have the conversation recorded for playback.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986
Sure enough you are right.... 
Mr. Sidney Allen Lyle Jr.
Bar Card Number: 00795026 Work Address: 1400 n grandview

Odessa, TX 79762 Work Phone Number: 432-266-8094 Primary Practice Location: Keller , Texas

http://texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=156954

I can't believe his work address is in Odessa, but primary practice location is Keller. ::MonkeyConfused::
From his reviews I'd say he practices in one place and hides out in the other.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:15:03 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I agree.  It does not make sense.  Is David privy to more than has been revealed regarding his encounter with Shawn on the afternoon of December 27th.

Janet

+++++

EXCLUSIVE: Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 7:23 am CST January 12, 2011


December 27th - 4:00 PM

On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.

According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.

David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


At 4:00 PM on December 27th ... David said he pounded on the door for five minutes and ... still Shawn did not answer the door?  What was Shawn doing?  Was he attempting to create the illusion he was not home?

Janet

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 07:16:37 PM
I don't know JSM.  When Lyle first became SA's lawyer there was an article by another lawyer that stated Lyle was from Odessa.  KTAB reported he was from Odessa today as well.    Maybe he has two offices?

<snipped>

Attorney Sidney Lyle, of Odessa, spoke with bigcountryhomepage.com over the phone earlier today but declined requests to have the conversation recorded for playback.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332986
Sure enough you are right.... 
Mr. Sidney Allen Lyle Jr.
Bar Card Number: 00795026 Work Address: 1400 n grandview

Odessa, TX 79762 Work Phone Number: 432-266-8094 Primary Practice Location: Keller , Texas

http://texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=156954

I can't believe his work address is in Odessa, but primary practice location is Keller. ::MonkeyConfused::
From his reviews I'd say he practices in one place and hides out in the other.
Yep!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 07:16:58 PM
Why does the story read the guy is from Ft Worth, but the review is of Sidney Lyle in Odessa?? Did he move?

He probably couldn't get a client in Ft Worth. Everybody knew about him.  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 07:17:20 PM
Janet you birng up an interesting item.  Did Billie not say most of the time the house was never locked?  Why that morning?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I agree.  It does not make sense.  Is David privy to more than has been revealed regarding his encounter with Shawn on the afternoon of December 27th.

Janet

+++++

EXCLUSIVE: Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 7:23 am CST January 12, 2011


December 27th - 4:00 PM

On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.

According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.

David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


At 4:00 PM on December 27th ... David said he pounded on the door for five minutes and ... still Shawn did not answer the door?  What was Shawn doing?  Was he attempting to create the illusion he was not home?

Janet

Janet
Didn't BD say on  the 911 call that the doors and windows are always left unlocked so locking them would draw attention to whatever he was doing.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 07:19:15 PM
Why does the story read the guy is from Ft Worth, but the review is of Sidney Lyle in Odessa?? Did he move?

He probably couldn't get a client in Ft Worth. Everybody knew about him.  ::MonkeyJnBox::
  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: WillenFan21 on January 19, 2011, 07:20:58 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 07:22:03 PM
Source: CPS Investigating Dunn Family

A reliable source told Bigcountryhomepage.com that the family of Hailey Dunn is being investigated by Child Protective Services.  CPS said it cannot confirm that information.

The missing girl's mother, Billie Dunn, said her 16-year-old son is currently staying with relatives in Snyder.

In many cases, CPS works with parents to find alternative housing while an investigation takes place, our source said.

Before Hailey disappeared on Dec. 27, she and her brother lived with their mom, Billie Dunn (pictured right), and her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins.  His father, Clint (pictured left), lives just across a field in Colorado City.

Adkins moved out of the Dunn home soon after investigators started putting more focus on him.  Adkins has now been named a suspect in the disappearance.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333156


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 19, 2011, 07:24:10 PM
Personally, it seems that ALL the players in this case are MHMR.

I'm curious to see if Billie will be on NG tonight, and like everyone has stated, I'm wondering why David wasn't placed with his father.
This is really nuts.
Probably everything we've been told to ignore is true.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:25:42 PM
Janet you birng up an interesting item.  Did Billie not say most of the time the house was never locked?  Why that morning?

It was not Billie who locked the doors ... Shawn did.  Cell phone records indicate that Shawn was being truthful regarding his approximate arrival home from Big Spring at 3:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27th.  David arrived home one hour later and the doors were locked.  WHAT WAS SHAWN DOING INSIDE THAT HOUSE?  David pounded on the door for five minutes and Shawn did not answer.  David enter the house through a window.

Janet

+++++++


EXCLUSIVE: Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 7:23 am CST January 12, 2011


December 27th - 4:00 PM

On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.

According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.

David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 07:26:30 PM
Janet you birng up an interesting item.  Did Billie not say most of the time the house was never locked?  Why that morning?
Very good catch.
I missed that even though I heard both statements.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 07:30:28 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I agree.  It does not make sense.  Is David privy to more than has been revealed regarding his encounter with Shawn on the afternoon of December 27th.

Janet

+++++

EXCLUSIVE: Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 7:23 am CST January 12, 2011


December 27th - 4:00 PM

On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.

According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.

David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


At 4:00 PM on December 27th ... David said he pounded on the door for five minutes and ... still Shawn did not answer the door?  What was Shawn doing?  Was he attempting to create the illusion he was not home?

Janet

Janet

My opinion is he was cleaning up evidence.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2011, 07:31:30 PM
Uncle Matt Taggard

Uncle Matt Taggard has a different last name than his brothers. Why? MT may be the  uncle who said such lovely things about Honeybuns.  I understand Rudy Norwood was grandpa, husband to his grandma, who SA is staying with according to reports. Hat's off to the Monkey who originally posted this obit.  :smt028 :smt028 :smt028 :smt028

Rudy Norwood
1932-2001
Rudolph Harold Norwood, a resident of Dunn, died Sunday, Aug. 26, in the Veteran Administration Hospital in Big Spring after a lengthy illness.

Funeral service for Mr. Norwood, 68, is set for 10 a.m. Tuesday in the Bell-Cypert-Seale Funeral Home Chapel. The Rev. Norman Burgess, pastor of the Dunn Baptist Church, will officiate. Burial will follow in the Dunn Cemetery.
Born Dec. 9, 1932 in Tallahassee, Fla., he married Renee Nail on Sept. 24, 1968 in Big Spring.
A member of the Dunn Baptist Church, Mr. Norwood was an auto mechanic in the U.S. Air Force for 21 years.
He was preceded in death by two sisters.

Survivors include his wife, Renee Norwood of Dunn; three daughters, Debbie Cargill of Mountain Home, Ark., Christi Adkins of Colorado City and Carla Norwood of Snyder; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene; two sisters, Rou Meil Greene and Jean Shields, both of Tallahassee; a brother, Morris Norwood of Tallahassee; 11 grandchildren; and four great-grandchildren.

Family visitation will be held from 6 to 8 this evening at Bell-Cypert-Seale Funeral Home


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:31:30 PM
Personally, it seems that ALL the players in this case are MHMR.

I'm curious to see if Billie will be on NG tonight, and like everyone has stated, I'm wondering why David wasn't placed with his father.
This is really nuts.
Probably everything we've been told to ignore is true.

I do not believe for one minute that David being protected from either his mother or father.  Could it be that David is being protected from Shawn?  Could it be that David is privy to info that has the ability to implicate Shawn in the disappearance of his sister?

What did David witness after crawling through that window into his home on the afternoon of December 27th?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:33:07 PM
Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.   ::MonkeyEek::   

I may be losing my mind but I can not recall one case where a sibling was taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.  Not Amber's sister, not Haleigh's brother, not coming up with one instance.  Even when they should be taken away they have not been.  Can anyone think of one case ...just one....as this is not "common" practice from the cases I have followed. 



I agree.  It does not make sense.  Is David privy to more than has been revealed regarding his encounter with Shawn on the afternoon of December 27th.

Janet

+++++

EXCLUSIVE: Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 7:23 am CST January 12, 2011


December 27th - 4:00 PM

On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.

According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.

David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


At 4:00 PM on December 27th ... David said he pounded on the door for five minutes and ... still Shawn did not answer the door?  What was Shawn doing?  Was he attempting to create the illusion he was not home?

Janet

Janet

My opinion is he was cleaning up evidence.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 07:34:23 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

What's DD?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 07:35:49 PM
David would have know Shawn was there, because his vehicle would be outside. Billie said Shawn picked her up and they went to get drugs that evening.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 07:38:17 PM
David would have know Shawn was there, because his vehicle would be outside. Billie said Shawn picked her up and they went to get drugs that evening.
Maybe the car wasn't there. Somebody else was using it to transport something out of the area.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:43:02 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

Have you researched Clint's background?  While Billie has been villified in regards to her selfish choices that put her children at risk ... Clint has been given a pass.  It is my believe that both these parents failed their children big time.  They both were aware of the red flags and took no action to prevent what ultimately happened.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 07:45:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

What's DD?

Never mind. I understand.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:45:36 PM
David would have know Shawn was there, because his vehicle would be outside. Billie said Shawn picked her up and they went to get drugs that evening.

It could be that Shawn was in the middle of a task that could not be interruped.  This is the reason for the locked door in the first place.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 07:49:19 PM
Papa just got back with grandsons (11/12) from an afternoon at the Planetarium in Vancouver.  I hope they had a McDonald dinner because I have nothing prepared.  Anyways ... gotta go.  Nancy Grace time in ten minutes.

Janet
4:50 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 07:49:57 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

Have you researched Clint's background?  While Billie has been villified in regards to her selfish choices that put her children at risk ... Clint has been given a pass.  It is my believe that both these parents failed their children big time.  They both were aware of the red flags and took no action to prevent what ultimately happened.

Janet

Clint's background has been posted on this thread. He's not been an angel, drug charges etc. He was in jail for MJ not long ago. I don't think Clint has been given a pass as far as being a role model. But at least he moved to where he could watch out for the kids, and has had his home open to them. Also, he is at least out trying to find Hailey, thanking the searchers, and not sitting on the sofa getting face time with the media and trying to text with Shawn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 07:51:00 PM
David would have know Shawn was there, because his vehicle would be outside. Billie said Shawn picked her up and they went to get drugs that evening.
Maybe the car wasn't there. Somebody else was using it to transport something out of the area.

That could be too. I'd like to know what David said about that.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 07:52:00 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

Have you researched Clint's background?  While Billie has been villified in regards to her selfish choices that put her children at risk ... Clint has been given a pass.  It is my believe that both these parents failed their children big time.  They both were aware of the red flags and took no action to prevent what ultimately happened.

Janet

Yes.  It is posted in one of the threads. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 08:01:34 PM
Put on your helmets, buckle your seat belts, and put your tray in the upright position. Nancy Grace is on.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 19, 2011, 08:03:34 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

Have you researched Clint's background?  While Billie has been villified in regards to her selfish choices that put her children at risk ... Clint has been given a pass.  It is my believe that both these parents failed their children big time.  They both were aware of the red flags and took no action to prevent what ultimately happened.

Janet

Clint's background has been posted on this thread. He's not been an angel, drug charges etc. He was in jail for MJ not long ago. I don't think Clint has been given a pass as far as being a role model. But at least he moved to where he could watch out for the kids, and has had his home open to them. Also, he is at least out trying to find Hailey, thanking the searchers, and not sitting on the sofa getting face time with the media and trying to text with Shawn.
  ::rhino::  ::rhino:: ITA, Fanny, he may have had a past, but Clint is looking for Hailey, moved to where he could watch out for the kids and is going to the ends of the earth to find his daughter. He is doing more than Billie. JMO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:03:51 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:05:31 PM
The earring matches the earring Hailey was wearing when she went missing. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 19, 2011, 08:06:00 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

I'm glad she repeated that because I thought I heard that wrong.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 08:06:04 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

How do they know what kind of earring Hailey was wearing that day? Did the neighbor who claims she saw her say she had on the earrings because nobody else claimed they saw her but Shawn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 19, 2011, 08:07:02 PM
Good question, Fannie.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:08:09 PM
Hailey wore them on Christmas day. 

Billie thinks she kept them on


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:09:28 PM
Hairstist Jean who saw young boy walking with Hailey, they now think that young boy is the son of Clint's GF. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 08:09:30 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

How do they know what kind of earring Hailey was wearing that day? Did the neighbor who claims she saw her say she had on the earrings because nobody else claimed they saw her but Shawn.
Shawn gave it in his description of what she was wearing.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: WillenFan21 on January 19, 2011, 08:09:35 PM
OMG!!!!!!! this is huge.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 08:10:07 PM
Jinkasarus is reaching now. She said Billie said she didn't notice Hailey coming home from her father's with one earring on Christmas night. I doubt if Billie noticed much of anything.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

How do they know what kind of earring Hailey was wearing that day? Did the neighbor who claims she saw her say she had on the earrings because nobody else claimed they saw her but Shawn.
Shawn gave it in his description of what she was wearing.

Where did you see that? Was that in the original description?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
Billie is going to be on tonight.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 08:15:37 PM
Billie is going to be on tonight.

It is "Groundhog Day!" ::MonkeyCool:: I wonder what new little tidbit we are getting tonight.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

How do they know what kind of earring Hailey was wearing that day? Did the neighbor who claims she saw her say she had on the earrings because nobody else claimed they saw her but Shawn.
Shawn gave it in his description of what she was wearing.

Where did you see that? Was that in the original description?
Yes because I thought it odd. Most men couldn't describe the clothing much less jewelry..reminded me of George Anthony's description of Caylee.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:25:38 PM
Police Searching West Texas for More Evidence in the Case of Hailey Dunn
By kfyolocalnews
An official says authorities looking for a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl are searching empty buildings and using dogs to scour additional landfills in the area.

City Manager Pete Kampfer in Colorado City said Wednesday that buildings in nearby Scurry and Mitchell counties were included in the search for Hailey Darlene Dunn.

He declined to be more specific and wouldn’t name additional landfills.

Kampfer has said evidence was found recently at a landfill in Abilene, 70 miles east of Colorado City, where Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28. No arrests have been made.

The former live-in boyfriend of Hailey’s mother has been named among several people of interest in the case.

Shawn Adkins has denied any involvement in Hailey’s disappearance.


http://kfyolocalnews.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/police-searching-west-texas-for-more-evidence-in-the-case-of-baliey-dunn/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 08:26:55 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

How do they know what kind of earring Hailey was wearing that day? Did the neighbor who claims she saw her say she had on the earrings because nobody else claimed they saw her but Shawn.
Shawn gave it in his description of what she was wearing.

Where did you see that? Was that in the original description?
Yes because I thought it odd. Most men couldn't describe the clothing much less jewelry..reminded me of George Anthony's description of Caylee.

I doubt if Shawn's description was accurate. Unless that is what Hailey wore Sunday night to bed. I think the whole red hoop earring is bogus. There is probably a very logical answer to why it was on the living room floor at Clint's. It could be as simple as Hailey took it out herself as she was trying to stretch her earlobes. It may have hurt.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:28:42 PM
Nancy Grace Takes Dunn 911 Calls National

On Wednesday evening, HLN's Nancy Grace aired the dramatic 911 calls stemming from a domestic disturbance between Hailey Dunn's mother and boyfriend. The calls were provided to HLN by KTAB News.
In the first two calls, Billie Dunn tells authorities she fears her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, poses a threat to her family. In the third call, a Snyder police officer says Adkins called him stating Billie was suicidal.

The domestic disturbance in question is mentioned in police affidavits regarding the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn. Hailey has been missing since December 27, 2010.

In regards to Adkins threatening Billie's life, Nancy Grace asked why she would taken him back after he threatened to kill her.

"We had a rocky relationship," replied Dunn. "The last year was good and the last 6 months were awesome."

The program reported one of Hailey's earrings has recently been discovered on the floor at her father's home. Grace also reported that the child a witness says she spotted on the morning of December 27 may be the son of Clint Dunn's girlfriend. The witness told KRBC's Jessica Reyes she believes she saw Hailey walking with a young boy on the day she vanished.

The program also reported that Billie Dunn's other child, 16-year-old David Dunn, was taken into state custody. Sources tell bigcountryhomepage.com that CPS is investigating the Dunns. However, sources tell us David hasn't been taken into custody.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333226


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:29:56 PM
Hailey's Father Thanks Volunteer Searchers (with video)

An emotional Clint Dunn came face-to-face with the people dedicated to finding his daughter for this first time on Wednesday morning.

Hailey's Angels met Clint on a bridge dubbed "Hailey's Bridge," where they read letters and offered support for the distraught father.

Dunn searched for words to express his gratitude to those who are dedicating their lives to finding his daughter.

"You are God's angels," he managed through tears.

Emotions ran high as they took turns reading letters to Hailey.

The group started a memory wall on the bridge for Hailey last week, where people come to leave notes and gifts for the missing 13-year-old.

The Angels are searching tirelessly for Hailey, and don't plan to stop until she's home.

Clint said each day that goes by without Hailey is more and more painful.

"Each time the sun goes down, the pain just gets worse. Each day gets more intense...I won't give up hope. It gets stronger every day. And it will until shes found," he said.

Hailey's Angels and other search groups trained with representatives from KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center Wednesday morning before heading out to continue searching.

Clint met with a private investigator and a psychic Wednesday afternoon in Snyder. He said he plans to do everything he can to find his daughter.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333187


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 08:35:06 PM
On NG while discussing the 911 calls BD repeatedly says she called 911 FROM WORK and she HAS NO CAR.
Yet the officer is going to the home address.
The report goes on as though the officer and BD talked at her home.
Again, nothing makes sense.

wrt the earring.  Maybe SA planted it there??


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 08:36:27 PM
Another ? from me:
They said the earring was found while DD and his girlfriend were moving?
How did I miss that in the middle of all this and his searching for HD he had time to move?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 19, 2011, 08:38:16 PM
It's also easy just to simply lose an earring without realizing it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
Billie tonight.  MK is at her house


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 19, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
Another ? from me:
They said the earring was found while DD and his girlfriend were moving?
How did I miss that in the middle of all this and his searching for HD he had time to move?


Yeah, that was new and peculiar.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 19, 2011, 08:40:20 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

How do they know what kind of earring Hailey was wearing that day? Did the neighbor who claims she saw her say she had on the earrings because nobody else claimed they saw her but Shawn.
Shawn gave it in his description of what she was wearing.

Where did you see that? Was that in the original description?
Yes because I thought it odd. Most men couldn't describe the clothing much less jewelry..reminded me of George Anthony's description of Caylee.

I doubt if Shawn's description was accurate. Unless that is what Hailey wore Sunday night to bed. I think the whole red hoop earring is bogus. There is probably a very logical answer to why it was on the living room floor at Clint's. It could be as simple as Hailey took it out herself as she was trying to stretch her earlobes. It may have hurt.

I know that my earrings come out of my ears constantly and I don't notice it.  Hailey was said to be at her dad's for Christmas, right?  And she was wearing those on Christmas day.  Personally I wouldn't give any credence whatsoever to what Billie notices or doesn't because obviously she just had eyes for loverboy.  As for loverboy himself, he easily could have ulterior motives - like his tushy is on the fire right now.  I'm sure he'd love to deflect the attention back onto dad.  Not that I've ruled out dad's involvement in my mind completely.  It's all game until it's done, but I still think that Shawn seems wayyy more likely.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 19, 2011, 08:41:29 PM
Billie says David is at her brother's house at her request because people are driving by and saying terrible things.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
David has not been taken into protective custody.  Billie sent him to her brother's home ... away from everything.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 19, 2011, 08:43:36 PM
Another ? from me:
They said the earring was found while DD and his girlfriend were moving?
How did I miss that in the middle of all this and his searching for HD he had time to move?

They are living with his mother in Snyder. The house they were in was subsidized housing in his GF's name and he wasn't on the lease so they had to move.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
Billie says David is at her brother's house at her request because people are driving by and saying terrible things.

I guess City Manager/Police Spokesman Pete Kampfer is giving us wrong info again. Or Billie is lying.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 08:46:28 PM
Billie tonight.  MK is at her house

I notice Billie didn't start crying until they talked about poor old her. I wish I could work up some sympathy for her. I feel mean.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:51:10 PM
Cellphone guy on NG saying that Lyle the Lawyer saying the pings can be wrong is ludicrous.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 08:55:14 PM
I believe that location that the 2:00 PM text originated is the the catalyst that will  reveal Shawn's guilt or innocence.

Janet

++++++

The December 27th 2:00 PM Text Message

NANCY GRACE
Mystery Text in Missing Hailey Dunn Case
Aired January 18, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: And back to you, Alexis Weed. The pings off the boyfriend`s cell phone -- and everybody, I`m just asking questions about this live-in boyfriend. He`s now moved out. Billie Dunn told him to leave. He has apparently cut off contact to her. I`m not saying he`s the only person that should be looked at, but I`ve got a lot of questions about his behavior.

Alexis Weed, I want to talk very quickly -- let me see the map, Liz, of the pings. Do the pings tell us where he was at 2:00 PM that day?

WEED: They tell us that between the hours of 9:38 in the morning and 2:40 in the afternoon, that Shawn Adkins was pinging around the Big Spring, Texas, area. That`s where his grandmother lives. But before that, Nancy, between the hours of 6:35 and 6:56 in the morning, that`s when he was pinging around Colorado City where Hailey`s -- Hailey`s home is located.

GRACE: So at 2:40 PM, I`ve still got him at his mother`s house, right?

WEED: Right.

GRACE: Now, question. Back to you, Jean Casarez. Let`s talk about this 2:00 PM text from Hailey`s phone. Where did it ping? Where did it ping?

CASAREZ: That`s very interesting. Where did it ping from? We don`t know.

GRACE: Because, listen, you see where I`m going, Jean.

CASAREZ: Yes, I do.

GRACE: If the boyfriend had Hailey`s phone and he was faking that text, this innocuous, generic text, What are you doing, to a little friend of hers, he could have gotten that friend`s name out of the phone directory, if she had it in the -- it was a disposable phone. How do I know he didn`t send that? And if he did, where was he? If he was at his mom`s until 2:40, did that cell ping, that text ping from where his mother lived? Because if it did, he`s in a lot of trouble, Jean.

CASAREZ: That`s right. And otherwise, if it didn`t, if it pinged from the home in Colorado City, then maybe little Hailey Dunn was alive at that point.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 08:57:01 PM
Hailey's Older Brother Taken Into Temporary State Family Protective Custody (video)

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 09:01:18 PM
Hailey's Older Brother Taken Into Temporary State Family Protective Custody (video)

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html

Does this case make you feel like a yo yo?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 19, 2011, 09:03:48 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

Have you researched Clint's background?  While Billie has been villified in regards to her selfish choices that put her children at risk ... Clint has been given a pass.  It is my believe that both these parents failed their children big time.  They both were aware of the red flags and took no action to prevent what ultimately happened.

Janet

good points..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 19, 2011, 09:04:51 PM
Search for Hailey Intensifies, Family Not Loosing Hope (with video)

As we approach the end of day 23 in the search for Hailey Dunn, the criminal investigation continues to intensify.

The orange ribbons placed around Colorado City and the county serve as a reminder that people are not giving up hope that Hailey will return home.

"We've got candles burning, a guardian angel" said Billie Dunn.

For Hailey's mother, Billie, every day is full of ups and downs, but today, it's looking up.

"It was overwhelming, all the love and support, I could just feel it" said Billie.

Billie said visiting with volunteer search groups helped restore her hope of finding Hailey alive.

"As far as I'm aware there's still no evidence of foul play and they're still looking for a living, breathing Hailey" said Billie.

But a few people are wondering why Billie Dunn isn't out in the search fields.

"I'm glad they're looking but of course each day I hope they don't find anything out there in the dirt" said Billie.

"I don't know that I would want to do that either" said City Manager Pete Kampfer.

While authorities are focusing their energy on the criminal investigation, and finding a body, they still haven't lost sight of a living, breathing, 13 year-old girl.

"We're still looking, we're still searching, we don't want to take down billboards or dis-continue putting out flyers" said Kampfer.

Billie says that hope is something she will hold on to until the very end.

"It's really hard, but I know I have to do it" said Billie.

Authorities say they are continuing their investigation, and will keep us updated as new details arise.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333227


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 09:05:15 PM
911 calls from February 2010

Call 1
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617046

Call 2
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617056

Call 3
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617096


I believe that LE messed up when it was stated in the affidavit that Shawn threatened the life of Hailey.  The 911 calls from Billie clearly state the threats were made against her and her ex-husband.

Why Billie ever let Shawn back is beyond me?  In my world it would not happen.

Janet

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http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332786

<snipped>

The affidavits signed on Jan. 7 say Adkins originally told authorities that he never threatened Hailey during the dispute, but that he then admitting to threaten the lives of both Hailey and Billie.

<snipped>




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 19, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Another ? from me:
They said the earring was found while DD and his girlfriend were moving?
How did I miss that in the middle of all this and his searching for HD he had time to move?

They are living with his mother in Snyder. The house they were in was subsidized housing in his GF's name and he wasn't on the lease so they had to move.
Thank you, 4 Donks!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 19, 2011, 09:22:20 PM
wonder why it was such a big deal for SA to get his t-shirt...it must have been his favorite  Micheal Meyers shirt  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 09:22:53 PM
911 calls from February 2010

Call 1
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617046

Call 2
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617056

Call 3
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617096


I believe that LE messed up when it was stated in the affidavit that Shawn threatened the life of Hailey.  The 911 calls from Billie clearly state the threats were made against her and her ex-husband.

Why Billie ever let Shawn back is beyond me?  In my world it would not happen.

Janet

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http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332786

<snipped>

The affidavits signed on Jan. 7 say Adkins originally told authorities that he never threatened Hailey during the dispute, but that he then admitting to threaten the lives of both Hailey and Billie.

<snipped>




Did you notice when Nancy Grace asked her how Shawn was threatening her and what was he saying Billie said she didn't remember. If someone was threatening my life, I would remember every single detail. And like you, he would not be in my house afterwards.

Also when Billie made the 911 calls, she didn't say Shawn threatened Hailey. But later, when questioned by the police, Shawn admitted that he had threatened both Billie and Hailey. It is in the affidavits.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 19, 2011, 09:24:26 PM
wonder why it was such a big deal for SA to get his t-shirt...it must have been his favorite  Micheal Meyers shirt  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 09:28:04 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

Have you researched Clint's background?  While Billie has been villified in regards to her selfish choices that put her children at risk ... Clint has been given a pass.  It is my believe that both these parents failed their children big time.  They both were aware of the red flags and took no action to prevent what ultimately happened.

Janet

good points..

Cookie

I would give neither parent points in regards to good role models but I believe in their own way Clint and Billie do love their children but they love their lifestyle more.  Hailey and David were not physically abused and all their "needs" where provided.  However ... red flags that indicated that may be at risk were not heeded by their parents.

My neighbor's son and DIL's life style involves drug use and she shares with me that she worries in regards to the well being of her two teenage grandchildren.  To an outsider it is not obvious but ... in reality ... those two kids are raising themselves.  They don't ask permission for anything ... they just tell their parents where they are going and what time they will be home.  Parents never check up on the kids because their own lifestyle takes priority.  So far ... so good but ... maybe it is just a matter of time that some incident will arise that would not have if parents had been aware.

I hope that makes sense.

Janet

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 09:32:21 PM
wonder why it was such a big deal for SA to get his t-shirt...it must have been his favorite  Micheal Meyers shirt  ::MonkeyHaHa::

The T-Shirt was not the issue.  Billie was concerned that Shawn would take possessions that did not belong to him while he was in the home.  Also ... she was concerned that Shawn may encounter David.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 19, 2011, 09:32:25 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

Have you researched Clint's background?  While Billie has been villified in regards to her selfish choices that put her children at risk ... Clint has been given a pass.  It is my believe that both these parents failed their children big time.  They both were aware of the red flags and took no action to prevent what ultimately happened.

Janet

good points..

Cookie

I would give neither parent points in regards to good role models but I believe in their own way Clint and Billie do love their children but they love their lifestyle more.  Hailey and David were not physically abused and all their "needs" where provided.  However ... red flags that indicated that may be at risk were not heeded by their parents.

My neighbor's son and DIL's life style involves drug use and she shares with me that she worries in regards to the well being of her two teenage grandchildren.  To an outsider it is not obvious but ... in reality ... those two kids are raising themselves.  They don't ask permission for anything ... they just tell their parents where they are going and what time they will be home.  Parents never check up on the kids because their own lifestyle takes priority.  So far ... so good but ... maybe it is just a matter of time that some incident will arise that would not have if parents had been aware.

I hope that makes sense.

Janet

 

makes perfect sense to me..and I agree with you...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 19, 2011, 09:52:16 PM
wonder why it was such a big deal for SA to get his t-shirt...it must have been his favorite  Micheal Meyers shirt  ::MonkeyHaHa::

The T-Shirt was not the issue.  Billie was concerned that Shawn would take possessions that did not belong to him while he was in the home.  Also ... she was concerned that Shawn may encounter David.

Janet
Yes I understand that those were Billie's concerns....I was referring to Shawn wanting to go into the house to get the t-shirt......you would think that a grown man would not have been so concerned about just one t-shirt ?....IMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 19, 2011, 10:38:17 PM
Investigators mum on results of landfill search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn
City to add two officers to police force


COLORADO CITY — The search of the Abilene landfill last week may or may not have turned up evidence involved in the Hailey Dunn case, said Pete Kampfer, city manager in Colorado City and a spokesman for the task force investigating the teen’s disappearance.

“You can say they may have found evidence,” Kampfer said, adding that there has been no confirmation by task force officials about whether anything was found during the search of the Allied Waste Services landfill on Thursday and Friday.

About a dozen officers from the Abilene Police Department searched through piles of debris last week. Cadaver dogs, trained in locating human remains, were on the scene as well.

Also last week, investigators named Shawn Adkins, 25, the former boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Jean Dunn, as a suspect.

Adkins has declined repeated requests by the Reporter-News for interviews. He maintained his innocence in an interview last week with The Associated Press. Adkins has been staying at his grandmother’s home since Billie Jean Dunn asked him to leave on Jan. 5.

Kampfer said Adkins is under 24-hour surveillance by law enforcement.

On Tuesday, two men and a woman were seen coming out of the home of Adkin’s grandmother Renee Norwood, who lives in the community of Dunn, 10 miles north of Colorado City. The three unidentified individuals also were seen walking behind the Norwood house. The woman was seen holding a container and a latex glove.

Billie Jean Dunn made another appearance on TV personality Nancy Grace’s program Tuesday night on HLN.

“As long as I can believe Hailey’s alive, I’m going to believe that,” she told Grace. Billie Jean Dunn said authorities have seized the sheets from Hailey’s bed. Grace reported that police are investigating whether Adkins had access to sulfuric acid.

However, Kampfer said no such information has been released by police.

Kampfer said officials have not said whether they plan to make an arrest soon.

“A body or bodily fluid would certainly bolster the case,” Kampfer said, “but I do not know what the prosecutors are planning.”

Also on Tuesday, Kampfer announced that he would be adding two full-time police officers to the city’s force, which currently consists of six officers, including the interim chief. The jobs will pay between $30,000 and $35,000 depending on experience.

He said two patrol officers will be hired and that the positions are permanent.

“We were going to hire some more staff to work in the city,” Kampfer said.

The search for Dunn, 13, is primarily a criminal investigation, Kampfer said.

“But we are still looking at the missing person aspect of the case,” he said.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/18/spokesman-evidence-may-have-been-found-case-missin/

Have I said lately I think Kampfer is a full blown idiot?? "Yes it is!" No it isn't."  "Well maybe it is." "We found something." "No we didn't." "We think Hailey is a runaway." "But we are looking for her in the landfills." "We're hiring two more officers, then we will solve the case." "What time's dinner?" "Who's paying?" (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/073.gif)
AND don't forget '"Who's on THIRD??" (Abbot and Costello) ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 10:51:39 PM
Hailey's Older Brother Taken Into Temporary State Family Protective Custody

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS learned Wednesday that Hailey Dunn's older brother, David, has been taken into temporary custody of the state's Department of Family and Protective Services.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, just to protect David.


<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html


Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer was cited as KTXS source in regards to the foundation of the original article?  Anyways ... the article has been updated to reflect what Billie revealed on tonights Nancy Grace Show.

What is going on within this investigation?

Janet

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Hailey's Older Brother Moved Out Of The Dunn Colorado City Home
POSTED: 4:49 pm CST January 19, 2011
UPDATED: 8:30 pm CST January 19, 2011


COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS learned Wednesday that Hailey Dunn's older brother, David, has been taken into temporary custody of Child Protective Services.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs.

However, on the Nancy Grace show Wednesday night, Billie Dunn told Grace that is not the case. She said her son is living with her brother and visiting everyday. Billie Dunn said there was too much craziness going on and she felt it was best if David stayed with her brother.

<snipped>

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 19, 2011, 10:52:10 PM
David has not been taken into protective custody.  Billie sent him to her brother's home ... away from everything.

Janet
Well finally....Billie makes a good decision regarding her children......pass the wine I think this deserves a toast ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 19, 2011, 10:59:26 PM
David has not been taken into protective custody.  Billie sent him to her brother's home ... away from everything.

Janet
Well finally....Billie makes a good decision regarding her children......pass the wine I think this deserves a toast ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
I'll drink to that   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 11:07:02 PM
David has not been taken into protective custody.  Billie sent him to her brother's home ... away from everything.

Janet
Well finally....Billie makes a good decision regarding her children......pass the wine I think this deserves a toast ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::

I believe that both Billie and Clint are doing a lot of reflecting on their lifestyle choices ... lifestyle choices that implied that the well being of their children were not priority.  I just wish that the disappearance of their daughter had not been the catalyst that motivated this reflection.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: mymonkey on January 19, 2011, 11:08:38 PM
David has not been taken into protective custody.  Billie sent him to her brother's home ... away from everything.

Janet
Well finally....Billie makes a good decision regarding her children......pass the wine I think this deserves a toast ::monkeywine2:: ::monkeywine2::
I'll drink to that   ::monkeywine2::


Perhaps Mark Klass suggested to Billie for David to be removed.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 19, 2011, 11:25:15 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

Uh-oh...I haven't had a chance to watch NG show yet tonight.

The words in this post really bothers me.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: shy-monkey on January 19, 2011, 11:37:38 PM
NG just said one of Hailey's red hoop earings was found on her father's living room floor.

Uh-oh...I haven't had a chance to watch NG show yet tonight.

The words in this post really bothers me.



Dang! I won't get to watch NG tonight. Does anyone know why an earring found ay her dad's is a big deal? Was one she was wearing when she was last seen? or maybe she only has one pair? Most teenagers I know who aren't allergic to metal, buy the multiple pairs from places like Claires and lose or change them often.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 19, 2011, 11:43:00 PM
Hailey's Older Brother Taken Into Temporary State Family Protective Custody (video)

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html

Does this case make you feel like a yo yo?

YES!  And when things seems sooo crazy...it's because it IS!!

Is is possible that Billie's son was taken into custody but that (as she says on NG) he's staying at her brother's because Billie requested it and the son was released to the brother within a short amount oof time?

You know what I mean?  Billie using "selective" wording - skipping over the temporary custody portion and going straight to my son is staying at my brother's.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 19, 2011, 11:45:13 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/19/texas.missing.cheerleader/

Investigation narrows in case of missing Texas cheerleader
See show times »
Nancy Grace


Affidavits in the case indicate Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, and Adkins failed polygraph exams on Hailey's whereabouts.

According to the affidavits, Adkins ended two polygraph exams by walking out. On the third try, he failed the initial part of the test, but he then "made a positive indication" that the girl could be found in Scurry County, Texas. Dunn said Adkins was on anxiety medication at the time of the first test.

Dunn was under the influence of narcotics on her first polygraph examination, and she failed the second, according to a law enforcement affidavit posted on the website of KTAB.

Adkins was the last person to see the eighth-grader on December 27 at Dunn's home, according to local reports. Colorado City -- a rural central Texas town with about 5,000 residents -- is about 70 miles west of Abilene, Texas. Hailey was reported missing by her mother December 28.

The Colorado City Police Department responded to a domestic dispute in February 2010 after Adkins allegedly threatened Billie and Hailey Dunn, the released documents show. Adkins confirmed he did make the threats, according to documents.

KTAB on Wednesday posted three 911 calls on its website from the February incident. The calls referred to threats made against Billie Dunn and her estranged husband, Clint, but not against Hailey, the station said.

In one 911 call, Billie Dunn said, "I broke up with this guy a couple days ago and he's a little 'MHMR.' He's telling me that he's going to kill me and my ex-husband. And it's going to be remembered for a long time."

MHMR can refer to "mental health and mental retardation."

Asked about the 911 calls and affidavits, Kampfer said, "They add to the case against Shawn."

Billie Dunn told HLN's "Nancy Grace" Wednesday night that she did not report that Adkins had threatened to kill Hailey.

Marc Klaas, founder of KlaasKids Foundation, a child safety advocacy group that is assisting in the search for Hailey, appeared on "Nancy Grace" with Billie Dunn
.

He indicated someone not identified in the case might have come into the town and abducted the girl.

Klaas created the foundation in 1994 after the kidnapping and murder of his daughter, Polly.

Investigators have found evidence both in Colorado City and in other locations, said Kampfer, a former special agent with the FBI.

Dunn has said she has no idea what happened to her daughter.

"Somebody knows where she is," she told HLN last week.

The mother told HLN's "Nancy Grace" Tuesday that investigators took bedsheets belonging to Hailey.

Kampfer would not confirm that, but did say Dunn was given an inventory list of items taken by police from the home.

Meanwhile, KTXS said that Hailey Dunn's older brother has been taken into temporary custody of Child Protective Services. Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs, the station said.

Billie Dunn met Adkins on the MySpace social networking site more than two years ago, and he moved in with her several months ago. Kampfer described the family situation as unstable.

Hailey is 5 feet 2 inches tall and weighs 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair with blond streaks. When she disappeared, she was wearing navy blue sweatpants, a light-colored short-sleeve T-shirt and pink and white tennis shoes.

Investigators, meanwhile, continue to work through leads. "It's a smaller circle," Kampfer said of the evidence.

"We are growingly concerned about her status," he said of Hailey.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 19, 2011, 11:46:57 PM
wonder why it was such a big deal for SA to get his t-shirt...it must have been his favorite  Micheal Meyers shirt  ::MonkeyHaHa::

IMO it appears that Billie and Shawn were fighting...the intensity on getting the T-shirt was just someing to irritate or intimidate Billie about.

She calls police on him and she's afraid he'll steal something (he had taken something earlier)
He calls police and says she's suicidal (she says she wasn't - but the inference by a boyfriend could cause her a lot of trouble)

Tit for tat...fighting.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 11:47:33 PM
There is a repeat of the Nancy Grace Show (HLN) in our area in about 15 minutes.

Also ... a transcript has already been posted.

Janet
8:45 PM PT

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NANCY GRACE
911 Calls From Missing Hailey`s Mother About Boyfriend Adkins
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 19, 2011, 11:57:41 PM
911 calls from February 2010

Call 1
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617046

Call 2
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617056

Call 3
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617096


I believe that LE messed up when it was stated in the affidavit that Shawn threatened the life of Hailey.  The 911 calls from Billie clearly state the threats were made against her and her ex-husband.

Why Billie ever let Shawn back is beyond me?  In my world it would not happen.

Janet

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http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332786

<snipped>

The affidavits signed on Jan. 7 say Adkins originally told authorities that he never threatened Hailey during the dispute, but that he then admitting to threaten the lives of both Hailey and Billie.

<snipped>




Billie is telling the truth to Nancy Grace.  She never mentioned in the 911 calls that Shawn had threatened Hailey.  I think LE messed up.  Could it be the affidavit should have stated Billie and Clint ... not Billie and Hailey.

Nevetheless ... I cannot comprehend why Billie allowed Shawn to move back in following his threats to her Clint's lives.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
911 Calls From Missing Hailey`s Mother About Boyfriend Adkins
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Billie, what happened surrounding your 911 calls regarding Shawn Adkins threatening to kill you and Hailey?

BILLIE DUNN: OK. He didn`t threaten to kill Hailey. They weren`t frantic 911 calls. I called the police from work because Shawn had been threatening me, and he said he was coming to my house while I was at work and I didn`t want him in here. And he was making threats to my life.

GRACE: OK. In the affidavits, the police affidavits, it states that you said he had threatened to kill you and Hailey. So were you telling the truth...

BILLIE DUNN: He said that. I never said that.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 19, 2011, 11:59:00 PM
Could someone please let me know if I have my facts straight?

Clint - I understood to live across the field and that he moved there to be close to his children.

I now understand that he has moved away very recently, but we're just hearing about this today.  Seems like "news" to me so early in this case.

Also, that the move was percipitated because where he and his girlfriend lived was in her name and not his, so he had to move.

Okay....does that mean that the "girlfriend" moved there originally so that Clint could be close to David and Hailey??

Guess that means he hasn't lived there the whole time since the divorce with Billie.

Did this move happen somewhat quickly?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 12:02:46 AM
NANCY GRACE
911 Calls From Missing Hailey`s Mother About Boyfriend Adkins
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: So all of your 911 calls were just because you were afraid that he was coming into your house without your authority?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. And he was threatening me. I didn`t want him here.

GRACE: He was threatening you, saying what?

BILLIE DUNN: I can`t even remember now, but I know he was threatening to kill me and Clint, Hailey`s dad.

GRACE: Well, in this police affidavit, it says that Adkins alleged to have threatened to threatened to kill Billie Jean Dunn and Hailey Dunn during the dispute. And my question is, even if he hadn`t threatened to kill Hailey and the police have it all wrong, why did you think it was OK to take him back in?

BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been awesome.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 12:10:17 AM
Could someone please let me know if I have my facts straight?

Clint - I understood to live across the field and that he moved there to be close to his children.

I now understand that he has moved away very recently, but we're just hearing about this today.  Seems like "news" to me so early in this case.

Also, that the move was percipitated because where he and his girlfriend lived was in her name and not his, so he had to move.

Okay....does that mean that the "girlfriend" moved there originally so that Clint could be close to David and Hailey??

Guess that means he hasn't lived there the whole time since the divorce with Billie.

Did this move happen somewhat quickly?

That's how I understood it and yes, seems like they moved rather suddenly.  Maybe because of the media attention the landlord found out that Clint was living there when he shouldn't be.  Could be that's why they are moving so suddenly.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 12:10:59 AM
Could someone please let me know if I have my facts straight?

Clint - I understood to live across the field and that he moved there to be close to his children.

I now understand that he has moved away very recently, but we're just hearing about this today.  Seems like "news" to me so early in this case.

Also, that the move was percipitated because where he and his girlfriend lived was in her name and not his, so he had to move.

Okay....does that mean that the "girlfriend" moved there originally so that Clint could be close to David and Hailey??

Guess that means he hasn't lived there the whole time since the divorce with Billie.

Did this move happen somewhat quickly?

No link handy.

Clint stated that moved across from Billie's home to be close to his kids but I do not know when.

Good Night All

Janet
9:10 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 12:13:42 AM
Klaas and Janet - TY


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 12:50:21 AM
Another ? from me:
They said the earring was found while DD and his girlfriend were moving?
How did I miss that in the middle of all this and his searching for HD he had time to move?


Yeah, that was new and peculiar.

Why is that new & peculiar? Remember when the police were searching initially? We discussed this on scaredmonkeys. The police & investigators went door to door telling people they weren't interested in what they have in their house (within reason & in so many words) bc their main priority was to search for Hailey. When they went to Clint's home, he was charged with something like .2 grams of weed. I understand the law is the law but this is a very perfect example as to why some people in OR didn't open their doors to a search by police when looking for little Kyron. BC look what happened to Clint & his GF...they were booted out of their home. It was against regulations or something. Of course it's against the law but some of us speculated that maybe they were evicted from their house (state assistance maybe?) bc either Clint wasn't on the lease or simply bc it was against their rules to have narcotics like cannibas. Who knows really. I personally think it's lame. Of all the times to kick this dude out they did it at the beginning of his daughter's disappearance? Does anyone know if they were all evicted or just Clint? I mean, think about it... Isn't .2 grams like 1/2 a joint or something? A roach or something small? I don't do stuff but I've had my experiences in college, that's all I can go on. I've seen plenty of crap in college alone...good lawwwd... BTW, cannibas is legal on several reservations throughout our country, places where they're subjected to their own laws. Just something to think about. Not saying it's not illegal, bc it is, but sometimes, actually several times, police will overlook that small trivial amount. Why did they make it a point to make a note of it? We pulled up Corey's "lab" in a matter of minutes. If we could do this in 5 minutes, then surely their small group of popos could put their brains together to figure out how to do the same...hell, all they'd have to do is enlist the help of an internet savvy teen! Yet, as far as I ca see, Corey is still walking free. The dude needs help and I sure hope he gets it.

Also, If Shawn's cell was pinging off a tower in Big Spring up until 2:40, then how could he have sent that text at 2:00? I understand things can be done online, but that's something the police investigators would have figured out way before waiting for the ping info from Verizon. I have ATT and have this same option. They would see it. Plus he wouldn't have made it home by 3:00. It's too far to make it back to CCity in 20 minutes. Yet they didn;t give the ping info on Billie's cell phone. Why is that? Could it be bc they're forcing info to come out? Scaring people with the lack of info & innuendo in the info that they do have simply bc they don;t have enough money to properly investigate without full fbi takeover? Local police officers absolutely hate it when the fbi takes over. It's their jurisdiction, their city, they don;t want to answer to somebody else. This is a small & poor town. They literally don;t have the money to prosecute this case. Could that be the reason for the tiny leaks, the kind that just feed people along in order to promote more leads? I wish they would just spill what they have bc imo between scaredmonkeys.net, scaredmonkeys.com, websleuths.com, blinkoncrime.com, hinkeymeter.com, cnn.com, topix.com - jeesh let us all do some investigating and we'll even supply links for them! Lmao! But seriously, think about it. I wish they'd just spill something.

We need to make sure we check all of the towers and which towers his cell would ping off of when driving back from Snyder. Obviously it pinged off of the same tower in CCity that Billie's would have, the one nearest to her home, but he could have been 15 miles away & still it could have pinged from that same tower. Either way, he was in the vicinity and he lied about so many things that he honestly had no reason to lie about...like being fired when he just walked out without saying a word to anyone.

Be careful what timelines you follow bc the link that was supplied earlier for Shawn's travel time to & from work is wrong. The job in Snyder specifically stated their records show him entering at 6:00 and leaving around 6:10. I think Janet's timeline is the best in my humble opinion. When dealing with a timeline, which would be a good idea if we could start an official one, we should only stick with facts & be specific. If we know of a time somebody was someplace & it's proven, then it could become fact as we see it. It could be documented. When we start adding or following an opinion as to how fast Shawn was driving & it's added to the timeline as a sort of fact, then the whole timeline comes under scrutiny bc it's not fact, therefore it's thrown out. This is just my opinion of course, not stepping on toes, but when we see things in print on the internet we start to think it's fact...which it's not, then before we know it it's all over the place & everything becomes distorted.

Do I personally think SA is involved? Sure, but I'm just somebody on an online forum. There's alot of assumptions & I'm trying to catch myself from falling into that same trap. If he's guilty, which I think he is, then I hope he rots. If he's not guilty, then I certainly hope he gets his chit together. As for Billie & Clink, I agree with Janet - why did Hailey have to be the catalyst? We see on a daily basis that even the best of families can have this happen to them. Maybe they're not the best type of family, but still maybe they're innocent. Again, I think Billie knows more...just sayin'...but what about if she doesn't?

I'd personally like to know if the dumpster at that motel near their house is emptied at the same landfill as their house. If not, which landfill is it taken to or is it exported to a foreign land? What was the exact route the tracking dogs traced? Was it Clint's, the to Hailey's friend's house, then to the motel - which is where the dogs stopped, searched the entire ground floor but nothing came up? I wonder if Shawn's scent could be tracked to that hotel? I mean, if Hailey's scent could be traced there and if Shawn did take Hailey, then surely his scent could be traced somewhere too...right?

I think if the culprit is indeed Shawn, which I think it is, then I think there's somebody else involved besides just Billie. She's not too bright, literally.

I'd like to know why she had custody of her kids after hearing those 911 calls. Why was it not investigated? Isn;t there some type of child services there? Clint is beside the point, even though is track record of being a dead beat dad could come into play, and the fact he has a criminal record, but dealing with Billie herself is enough to have those kids placed somewhere else for their own good. These people sure seem like a bunch of pillbillies!

Klaas, not sure if you're still on here, but I read something about Billing & stripping. I've only had a few minutes off & on today so I didn;t get a chance to research it. Did anyone find proof yet? The reason I'm asking is bc somebody's been posting in the comments section of various news outlets that she's a stripper for this Jaguars Club. If I had time, I'd try to search the id of the person that's posting this stuff bc then we could locate her/his ip by backtrace. At least it would show us if they're local or not. If they're not, they may just be starting trouble. It's worth looking into, though, bc that opens up a whole new can of worms iykwim.

One more thing - Billie was NOT an RN. Would she have had access to any heavy narcotics that wouldn't have been prescribed to her...other than purchasing them illegally? Even as an LVN I don't think she was authorised to administer heavy meds through an iv or picc line. let alone benzo tabs. Nicubird, what say you? Would you happen to know? CBB, anybody? I mean, I can't imagine this twit knowing how to insert a Hickman Catheter whatsoever, let alone bleeding the line & adding medication to it. I know for a fact I'd never trust her to do anything on me or my kids based on what I witness of her daily in the flipping media! I'm curious to know if she's been fired from her job based on those affidavits being released. Purchasing illegal narcotics is reason for dismissal from any organization, especially somebody in the medical field - secretary or not is beside the point.

Hate to hit & run but this was all the time I had. I really miss you guys! Side note - my baby boy took 2nd in his NJ State Qualifier. We're on to North East Natonals this weekend. It'll be a tough tournament. If anyone's on here from the York PA area, please advise what the roads are like as I'm driving by myself, in a car not an suv, and I'm a lil nervous in the mountains during the winter. Much much much appreciated! I despise wrestling sometimes but I sure love watching my boys do what they love sooo much!

Klaas, I'll help look for links in the morning. I wish I saved the user name that I saw earlier. I think it was on CNN's site, definitely in the comments section. Maybe something on Nancy Grace's FB, too? It was also on WS but stuff gets deleted form there on a daily basis, unless you agree with the moderator or they agree with you. I haven;t read Blink in awhile. Is she covering this, also?I wonder what Val is saying on her site? I'll bet she's ripping Billie a new ahole!

Gotta run. Have to get up at 5:30! Nighty night all!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 20, 2011, 12:51:48 AM
FWIW- The profile picture on Hailey's personal FB (toddler in an orange dress) is not Hailey when she was a baby. It turns out (from looking around on family members FB of Hailey's) that the picture is one of her little maternal cousins that she mentions babysitting on her facebook page. (twins)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001908815932&sk=wall  (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001908815932&sk=wall)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 12:59:38 AM
Klaas, Muffy, CBB - re my post #455...I meant to say work shows Shawn entering at 6:00 and leaving at 6:10...NOT entering at 5:00. My mistake. Please could comebody edit that for me? Many thanks.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 01:15:25 AM
Klaas, Muffy, CBB - re my post #455...I meant to say work shows Shawn entering at 6:00 and leaving at 6:10...NOT entering at 5:00. My mistake. Please could comebody edit that for me? Many thanks.


OMG, and I'm so sorry about all of my typos. I said Billing instead of Bikkie, etc. Sooo many ; keys hit in error. I'm trying so hard not to say the H word, but I think I can say I DESPISE the ; key! I seem to be addicted to ;. I wonder if they have a ; detox anywhere...

JK. Really tired so very sorry about so many typos. Have a nice night everyone.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 20, 2011, 01:53:59 AM
Something just dawned on me, but I could be totally wrong.
I know David shares Clint's last name but is Clint really the "baby daddy" of David?
The reason I ask is that I don't recall Clint saying anything about David AND Hailey being there around Christmas or even David coming over for that matter. Maybe he adopted David?
I could be way off on this. Maybe another monkey might be able to figure this out. It probably doesn't matter jmuch. It was just something I started thinking about since David wasn't sent to live with Clint.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on January 20, 2011, 03:17:14 AM
Personally I am very offended with Mark Klass. He is hovering over and protecting Billie, but why ?
I am not a pro in these missing children cases, and I have seen many
inconsistancies when Billie speaks on the NG show.

Is he sticking by her side because she appears to become more frail and disraught with
every passing day ?

Is he trying to get her to "fess up" so Hailey can be found and laid to rest ?

What do u all think about this ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: can on January 20, 2011, 07:08:44 AM
Personally I am very offended with Mark Klass. He is hovering over and protecting Billie, but why ?
I am not a pro in these missing children cases, and I have seen many
inconsistancies when Billie speaks on the NG show.

Is he sticking by her side because she appears to become more frail and disraught with
every passing day ?

Is he trying to get her to "fess up" so Hailey can be found and laid to rest ?

What do u all think about this ?

It seems to me MK has taken a very protective stance towards Billie. 
His words and support last night on NG were over the top, imo. 
I am confused and hope he hasn't fixated on his 'good' opinion of her.  It seems to me he was reaching in offering various theories of what may have happened to Hailey, including a stranger abduction.   ::MonkeyEek::

MK is often very outspoken and I doubt his motive is to get her to "fess up" - ICBW.   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cookie on January 20, 2011, 07:56:19 AM
Personally I am very offended with Mark Klass. He is hovering over and protecting Billie, but why ?
I am not a pro in these missing children cases, and I have seen many
inconsistancies when Billie speaks on the NG show.

Is he sticking by her side because she appears to become more frail and disraught with
every passing day ?

Is he trying to get her to "fess up" so Hailey can be found and laid to rest ?

What do u all think about this ?

It seems to me MK has taken a very protective stance towards Billie. 
His words and support last night on NG were over the top, imo. 
I am confused and hope he hasn't fixated on his 'good' opinion of her.  It seems to me he was reaching in offering various theories of what may have happened to Hailey, including a stranger abduction.   ::MonkeyEek::

MK is often very outspoken and I doubt his motive is to get her to "fess up" - ICBW.   

I think that Mark was there for Billie cause he feels that she is innocent..she is the mother of a missing child. He feels compassion for her. Even though she may not have been the best mother in the world, none of us knows if she did anything more than use horrible bad judgment in her relationship with Shawn. I trust MK a lot.. I think that he is usually right on with his opinions..
I think that he is just showing support to a mother who is suffering the loss of her child..jmo..


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 08:12:36 AM
Could someone please let me know if I have my facts straight?

Clint - I understood to live across the field and that he moved there to be close to his children.

I now understand that he has moved away very recently, but we're just hearing about this today.  Seems like "news" to me so early in this case.

Also, that the move was percipitated because where he and his girlfriend lived was in her name and not his, so he had to move.

Okay....does that mean that the "girlfriend" moved there originally so that Clint could be close to David and Hailey??

Guess that means he hasn't lived there the whole time since the divorce with Billie.

Did this move happen somewhat quickly?

That's how I understood it and yes, seems like they moved rather suddenly.  Maybe because of the media attention the landlord found out that Clint was living there when he shouldn't be.  Could be that's why they are moving so suddenly.

A few pages back a monkey posted that Clint and the girl friend had to move because they were in subsidized housing and Clint wasn't on the lease. I have a friend that works for HUD. Basically, Clint and the girlfriend have committed fraud. If he wasn't on the lease, then his income was not factored into the subsidy, only the girlfriend's was and since she recently had a baby and I believe is not working at this time, she probably receives some sort of assistance in the form of welfare and maybe foodstamps, again Clint's income was not factored into the equation. I highly doubt it is the landlord that removed Clint and the girlfriend from the home, but suspect it was the county housing authority, that oversees HUD funds, and the section 8 program. In a nutshell it appears Clint and the girlfriend have committed fraud in order to receive federal funds made available to poor and needy families....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 08:18:09 AM
To add to my above post....if you have been convicted of a crime, including any drug related, then you are not eligible to receive section 8.

This may be why Billie has stated the she is the parent that provides food and clotheing and other needs for her 2 children, I doubt she gets any child support. While I'm not necessarily defending her, it appears to me, Clint has also chosen a lifestyle that is less than stellar...IMHO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 20, 2011, 08:21:16 AM
Personally I am very offended with Mark Klass. He is hovering over and protecting Billie, but why ?
I am not a pro in these missing children cases, and I have seen many
inconsistancies when Billie speaks on the NG show.

Is he sticking by her side because she appears to become more frail and disraught with
every passing day ?

Is he trying to get her to "fess up" so Hailey can be found and laid to rest ?

What do u all think about this ?

It seems to me MK has taken a very protective stance towards Billie. 
His words and support last night on NG were over the top, imo. 
I am confused and hope he hasn't fixated on his 'good' opinion of her.  It seems to me he was reaching in offering various theories of what may have happened to Hailey, including a stranger abduction.   ::MonkeyEek::

MK is often very outspoken and I doubt his motive is to get her to "fess up" - ICBW.   

When MK first started speaking up for BD I really was confused by him.  I'm used to seeing him posture against all the bad rents we've seen lately.  I personally think BD is culpable in some way but the more I hear her talk and see the result of her bad decisions I can't help but think that he feels sorry for her because he might feel she is a bit slow.!?  Maybe, I dunno!  I believe she is a dumb country girl who may not even realize how bad she is being portrayed on tv.  Ya know I've seen a lot of nurses in my field and I've met some that I would be scared if they took care of me cause they had no common sense but could read, comprehend and pass tests but just didn't get real life.  That is what she reminds me of, no common sense and no self esteem.  I'm prolly wrong but she is so off in her emotions, actions, reactions that I feel she is lacking some sort of smart gene!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: can on January 20, 2011, 09:53:48 AM
Personally I am very offended with Mark Klass. He is hovering over and protecting Billie, but why ?
I am not a pro in these missing children cases, and I have seen many
inconsistancies when Billie speaks on the NG show.

Is he sticking by her side because she appears to become more frail and disraught with
every passing day ?

Is he trying to get her to "fess up" so Hailey can be found and laid to rest ?

What do u all think about this ?

It seems to me MK has taken a very protective stance towards Billie. 
His words and support last night on NG were over the top, imo. 
I am confused and hope he hasn't fixated on his 'good' opinion of her.  It seems to me he was reaching in offering various theories of what may have happened to Hailey, including a stranger abduction.   ::MonkeyEek::

MK is often very outspoken and I doubt his motive is to get her to "fess up" - ICBW.   

I think that Mark was there for Billie cause he feels that she is innocent..she is the mother of a missing child. He feels compassion for her. Even though she may not have been the best mother in the world, none of us knows if she did anything more than use horrible bad judgment in her relationship with Shawn. I trust MK a lot.. I think that he is usually right on with his opinions..
I think that he is just showing support to a mother who is suffering the loss of her child..jmo..


Could be cookie.  I hope so.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: can on January 20, 2011, 10:02:54 AM
Personally I am very offended with Mark Klass. He is hovering over and protecting Billie, but why ?
I am not a pro in these missing children cases, and I have seen many
inconsistancies when Billie speaks on the NG show.

Is he sticking by her side because she appears to become more frail and disraught with
every passing day ?

Is he trying to get her to "fess up" so Hailey can be found and laid to rest ?

What do u all think about this ?

It seems to me MK has taken a very protective stance towards Billie. 
His words and support last night on NG were over the top, imo. 
I am confused and hope he hasn't fixated on his 'good' opinion of her.  It seems to me he was reaching in offering various theories of what may have happened to Hailey, including a stranger abduction.   ::MonkeyEek::

MK is often very outspoken and I doubt his motive is to get her to "fess up" - ICBW.   

When MK first started speaking up for BD I really was confused by him.  I'm used to seeing him posture against all the bad rents we've seen lately.  I personally think BD is culpable in some way but the more I hear her talk and see the result of her bad decisions I can't help but think that he feels sorry for her because he might feel she is a bit slow.!?  Maybe, I dunno!  I believe she is a dumb country girl who may not even realize how bad she is being portrayed on tv.  Ya know I've seen a lot of nurses in my field and I've met some that I would be scared if they took care of me cause they had no common sense but could read, comprehend and pass tests but just didn't get real life.  That is what she reminds me of, no common sense and no self esteem.  I'm prolly wrong but she is so off in her emotions, actions, reactions that I feel she is lacking some sort of smart gene!

If she has been the sole provider for her kids, that is something to be proud of.  Not easy I'm sure.  I just wish single Mom's would give priority to their kids and put their needs on hold until this important job has been completed.  Easier said than done, I know. It seems she is reluctant to give up on Shawn completely.

Where is Hailey?  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 10:14:55 AM
Spokesman: Hailey's Body Needed for Successful Prosecution (with video)

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer made one thing clear about the investigation into the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn: whether she's the victim of a crime or simply ran away, law enforcement's focus is to find Hailey Dunn.
In an interview Wednesday with KTAB's Priscilla Luong, Kampfer reiterated that the law enforcement side of the case is intensifying. He says officers are working to corroborate the information and tips they've put together. A focus of the investigation continues to be the only named suspect in Hailey's disappearance, Shawn Adkins.

"We're going back over things that he has made statements to and corroborating that and anything related to searches that come up with him -- and areas that he's been in and other witnesses related to him," said Kampfer about the boyfriend of Hailey's mother.

Kampfer also discussed why an arrest hasn't yet been made in the case. He made it clear that in many cases of this nature, a body is key to successful prosecution.

"In talking to the prosecutor, that (body) is something they would like to have," said Kampfer. "We're about that right now. To whatever the status of Hailey (is), we're looking for Hailey."

Kampfer said while hope remains alive that Hailey could still be alive, investigators have gone through quite a bit of disappointment as they follow leads.

It's a roller coaster," said Kampfer. "Some days we get good leads and we want to be able to follow up on things that would say that she's in good order. As time goes on and we don't have her...it's something of pessimism."

As volunteers take to fields by the dozens to search, many have questioned why Hailey's family isn't more directly involved in search efforts. Kampfer says he's the type of parent who would be out searching himself. However, he made it clear he understands those who would choose otherwise.

"Maybe there's an aspect in their minds that if they were out looking and they did find a body, they don't want to be there to discover that body," said Kampfer. "I can understand not being directly involved in the search."

Kampfer says he's given Clint and Billie Dunn his phone number so they can call him whenever they need updates.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333306


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 10:17:26 AM
Hailey Dunn's parents overwhelmed by number of volunteer searchers

COLORADO CITY — The parents of Hailey Dunn, who disappeared from Colorado City more than three weeks ago, said they were overwhelmed Wednesday by the outpouring of support from volunteers who showed up to search for their daughter.

By 3 p.m., almost 50 volunteers had signed on to help with the search, organized by two national organizations — the KlaasKids Foundation and the Laura Recovery Center for Missing Children.

"It makes me happy," said Clint Dunn, Hailey's father. He was at the Colorado City

Civic Center to greet and thank the volunteers Wednesday morning.

"I had to come down here and see with my own eyes that there are angels," he said.

In the afternoon, Billie Jean Dunn wept openly after volunteers gathered around her and said a prayer for her daughter. Later, she thanked the volunteers.

"Thank you to all the crews that are working," she said. "We want to find Hailey happy and smiling again."

Neither Billie Jean Dunn nor Clint Dunn joined in the search efforts.

"I would not want to be there if she was found," Clint Dunn said.

A number of the volunteers who registered have been searching for 13-year-old Hailey since she was reported missing by her mother on Dec. 28.

After registering, volunteers were issued neon orange vests and divided in three teams. The search teams combed 10 areas inside the city limits.

"We are going into a lot of areas you have already searched," Brad Dennis, director of the search center for the KlaasKids Foundation, told the searchers during the morning briefing.

Dawn Davis, representing the Laura Recovery Center, cautioned the volunteers not to touch or disturb anything they find that could be considered evidence.

"We want to make sure what we are doing out here is for Hailey," Davis said. "If the worst has happened, we want to make sure someone is held accountable.

Kristy Lloyd, who said she had looked for Hailey soon after the girl's disappearance, decided to rejoin the search.

"I want to get out there and bring her home," Lloyd said,

Lloyd, a secretary at Colorado Middle School, where Hailey Dunn is a student, took the day off to join in the hunt. She said students still hold out hope that Hailey will be found alive.

"The students are being proactive and that is how they are coping," Lloyd said.

Bill Markonas, a Big Spring resident, said that driving by a collection teddy bears, which are displayed alongside State Highway 208 just north of Colorado City, prompted him to register.

"It touched me," Markonas said, adding that he has grandchildren and stepchildren.

Beginning at 9 a.m. daily, volunteers will conduct grid searches that take from two to four hours. The searchers will return to the command center at 3 p.m. each day to be debriefed by organizers.

Davis said she hopes more volunteers will register.

"I'd like to triple the number," she said. "They can come any time to register."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/hailey-dunns-parentsoverwhelmed-by-number-of/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 10:18:54 AM
Hailey's Older Brother Is Moved From Dunn Home In Colorado City (with video)

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- KTXS learned Wednesday that Hailey Dunn's older brother, David, has been taken into temporary custody of Child Protective Services.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said it is common practice to remove a child when a situation like this occurs.

However, on the "Nancy Grace" show Wednesday night, Billie Dunn told Grace that is not the case. She said her son is living with her brother and visiting every day. Billie Dunn said there was too much craziness going on, and she felt it was best if David stayed with her brother.

Meanwhile, also on Wednesday, for the first time, law enforcement worked with volunteer searchers and two national foundations to give them direction.

KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center Foundation trained volunteers Wednesday morning how to go about searching for Hailey.

Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, joined the group of about 55 searchers, to offer up his support.

"I don't want to join in the search – I can't," he said. "I don't want to. It's just amazing seeing these people the community pull together like this."

He said he can't search because he's not willing to face what could be found in the fields.

Clint Dunn especially took time today to thank and motivate "Hailey's Angels," a name given to those who have searched for weeks now.

Out in the field, volunteers covered ground that law enforcement flagged to KlaasKids search director Brad Dennis.

KlaasKids plans to be here throughout the weekend, but officials say that's not when the search ends.

"You search until you get answers," Dennis said.

Local volunteers say the help is huge. "It's a lot more organized," said searcher Glenda Turner.

"I'm not as young as a lot of people, but I'm sticking it out and going to do it," said Shirley Crawford.

They all say they'll search until Hailey is found.

"Unfortunately, we are looking wooded areas, and anything your going to find out here is not something you want to find," Holly Jenkins said.

Meanwhile, law enforcement officials are keeping a tight lid on their investigation..

Kampfer did say the search in area landfills may not be over yet.

Volunteers will meet again Thursday morning at the Colorado City Civic Center.

Anyone is welcome to come join the search. EmailPrint

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 10:20:14 AM
Search For Hailey Slowing; National Search Organizations Offer Support To Family (with video)

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- The search across three different counties for Hailey is starting to run into obstacles. The number of volunteers is dwindling, and private property is creating holes in search areas where volunteers aren't allowed to go without permission.

Brad Dennis, director of operations for Klaaskids Foundation, said, "I've been doing this for 25 years." Dennis has seen countless grassroots efforts made by communities to search for missing children, and even he's impressed with the effort made by people in Colorado City and the surrounding area.

The founder of the organization, Marc Klaas, was in Colorado City Wednesday night, offering his support to the family was at the center of this search and what better person to do so than someone who has been in their shoes.

"I endured 65 days of what they're enduring now," Klaas said.

His daughter Polly was kidnapped in 1994, so he's here to give the assistance he says he needed when his daughter was missing.

"It seems like the most nightmarish situation you can imagine," Klaas said.

While Klaas is here for the family, his foundation is helping to organize the search. They're tracking the areas volunteers have searched for authorities, but they're running into problems.

"It's an obstacle in the great land of Texas," Dennis said, "because everyone owns huge tracks of land here."

Privately owned property can stretch for miles and creates ideal hiding areas volunteers aren't able to search.

"Kids can go in there and go play," Dennis said. "Vehicles can drive in there at all hours of the day and night, and no one knows about it, but I can't go and search because that's someone's property."

They're telling private property owners in the area around Colorado City, and Dunn volunteers are available to help search their land if the size is overwhelming, and if they don't want volunteers on their property to please search the land themselves.


http://www.ktxs.com/news/26551567/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 20, 2011, 10:27:38 AM
Amen Can!  After a seperation/divorce/never having a father, it's already hard for a single Mom and her child or children and to complicate things even more, bringing in BF after BF is so confusing to the kids and it's  not funny nor healthy.  I've said it before and I'll say it again...if I ever lost my husband there is no way I could even think of bringing another man in his life while he was young and looking to me as a role model.  Once they grow up and are as healthy and happy as can be then the parent can do for themselves.  I am not knocking to any remarried poster or one who is dating with children!  I am talking about the women who think it's more important to make herself happy and the relationship/bedroom turnover is too frequent.  Please don't be offended anyone, this is only my opinion of what I would/wouldn't do and not for everyone.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:37:08 AM
911 calls from February 2010

Call 1
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617046

Call 2
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617056

Call 3
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617096


I believe that LE messed up when it was stated in the affidavit that Shawn threatened the life of Hailey.  The 911 calls from Billie clearly state the threats were made against her and her ex-husband.

Why Billie ever let Shawn back is beyond me?  In my world it would not happen.

Janet

+++++

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332786

<snipped>

The affidavits signed on Jan. 7 say Adkins originally told authorities that he never threatened Hailey during the dispute, but that he then admitting to threaten the lives of both Hailey and Billie.

<snipped>




Billie is telling the truth to Nancy Grace.  She never mentioned in the 911 calls that Shawn had threatened Hailey.  I think LE messed up.  Could it be the affidavit should have stated Billie and Clint ... not Billie and Hailey.

Nevetheless ... I cannot comprehend why Billie allowed Shawn to move back in following his threats to her Clint's lives.

Janet

++++++

NANCY GRACE
911 Calls From Missing Hailey`s Mother About Boyfriend Adkins
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Billie, what happened surrounding your 911 calls regarding Shawn Adkins threatening to kill you and Hailey?

BILLIE DUNN: OK. He didn`t threaten to kill Hailey. They weren`t frantic 911 calls. I called the police from work because Shawn had been threatening me, and he said he was coming to my house while I was at work and I didn`t want him in here. And he was making threats to my life.

GRACE: OK. In the affidavits, the police affidavits, it states that you said he had threatened to kill you and Hailey. So were you telling the truth...

BILLIE DUNN: He said that. I never said that.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


JANET, how are you so sure Billie didn't just didn't tell the police that night Shawn had threatened Hailey too? Shawn admitted to the police he did. She has hedged and picked her words when speaking about him even now. I am sure she had a habit of downplaying anything bad about Shawn because she loves him. She's still skirting any of his bad issues. I believe she still wants him back and will do so at the first opportunity.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 20, 2011, 10:42:46 AM
Curious, does SA have a DAD?  In Grandpa's Obit she was C.A.and must have remarried since?  Does anyone know if Honeybuns  ::MonkeyHaHa:: has a DAD?

Does BJ  ::MonkeyDevil:: does she have a DAD?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 20, 2011, 10:42:50 AM
I don't understand phone pings and gave up on that stuff during Caylee's case, but I was just reading that if you wrap your cell phone in tin foil your phone won't ping. Does anyone know if that is true?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 20, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
Personally I am very offended with Mark Klass. He is hovering over and protecting Billie, but why ?
I am not a pro in these missing children cases, and I have seen many
inconsistancies when Billie speaks on the NG show.

Is he sticking by her side because she appears to become more frail and disraught with
every passing day ?

Is he trying to get her to "fess up" so Hailey can be found and laid to rest ?

What do u all think about this ?

Lake Erie  ::HelloKitty::

Me thinks Mark is a gentleman, he has a pure soul and looks for the best in people, my guess. Women have better instincts.
Women have an inner feeling about BJ  ::MonkeyHaHa::. Men see facts in Black and White. Women know this is screwy and just can not prove it, yet.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
I don't understand phone pings and gave up on that stuff during Caylee's case, but I was just reading that if you wrap your cell phone in tin foil your phone won't ping. Does anyone know if that is true?

I'm not sure about the aluminum foil, but I do know you can take the battery out and it will not ping. I know I wrapped my head in aluminum foil to keep Spindy's vibes out of there, but it didn't help much.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/7.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on January 20, 2011, 11:02:10 AM
Noticed on a press release NR posted on this thread, page 18 reply #356 that :


Investigators have found evidence both in Colorado City and in other locations, "said Kampfer, a former special agent with the FBI."


I don't recall ever seeing it mentioned that Kampfer was a former FBI agent, suppose thats why he was made spokesperson in this little hick town?


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/19/texas.missing.cheerleader/index.html?section=cnn_latest


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 11:04:22 AM
I don't understand phone pings and gave up on that stuff during Caylee's case, but I was just reading that if you wrap your cell phone in tin foil your phone won't ping. Does anyone know if that is true?

In the affidavit it said that Shawn had a Blackberry. They have a GPS chip so even if he blocked pings his phone can still be tracked through that chip whether the phone is pinging or not if he did not disable the GPS (not sure you can do this on the newer Blackberrys).  Lyle the lawyer needs to wrap his head in tin foil IMO. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 11:07:05 AM
Noticed on a press release NR posted on this thread, page 18 reply #356 that :


Investigators have found evidence both in Colorado City and in other locations, "said Kampfer, a former special agent with the FBI."


I don't recall ever seeing it mentioned that Kampfer was a former FBI agent, suppose thats why he was made spokesperson in this little hick town?


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/19/texas.missing.cheerleader/index.html?section=cnn_latest

I missed that.  The king of yes errrm I mean no , maybe  errrrm  maybe not was with the FBI?  Wonder if Sparky was with the CIA?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:24:20 AM
Noticed on a press release NR posted on this thread, page 18 reply #356 that :


Investigators have found evidence both in Colorado City and in other locations, "said Kampfer, a former special agent with the FBI."


I don't recall ever seeing it mentioned that Kampfer was a former FBI agent, suppose thats why he was made spokesperson in this little hick town?


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/19/texas.missing.cheerleader/index.html?section=cnn_latest

I missed that.  The king of yes errrm I mean no , maybe  errrrm  maybe not was with the FBI?  Wonder if Sparky was with the CIA?

Shazam!!!  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/laugh3.gif)

I wonder where Trooper Sparky has been lately?  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-scared003.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:26:10 AM
Noticed on a press release NR posted on this thread, page 18 reply #356 that :


Investigators have found evidence both in Colorado City and in other locations, "said Kampfer, a former special agent with the FBI."


I don't recall ever seeing it mentioned that Kampfer was a former FBI agent, suppose thats why he was made spokesperson in this little hick town?


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/19/texas.missing.cheerleader/index.html?section=cnn_latest

I missed that.  The king of yes errrm I mean no , maybe  errrrm  maybe not was with the FBI?  Wonder if Sparky was with the CIA?

I tried to look up his biography and could only find a Pete Kampfer who was a biochemist or some such. I don't think that was him.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:32:06 AM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Very interesting.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-reading-glasses-1.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 11:44:00 AM
Colorado City landfill target today as part of search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn

COLORADO CITY – Law enforcement will be using cadaver dogs this afternoon to search the landfill in Colorado City for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn.

The number of volunteers dwindled to about 20 today, due to the cold weather, organizers said.

Two volunteer search teams gathered for the second time this morning. They will be searching areas along Hwy 208 toward the community of Dunn, which is north of Colorado City.

“We will be looking in areas all along there,” said Brad Dennis of the KlaasKids Foundation, which is organizing the volunteer search for the 13-year-old.

Hailey Dunn has been missing for over three weeks.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/20/colorado-city-landfill-target-today-part-search-mi/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 20, 2011, 11:45:16 AM
I don't understand phone pings and gave up on that stuff during Caylee's case, but I was just reading that if you wrap your cell phone in tin foil your phone won't ping. Does anyone know if that is true?

In the affidavit it said that Shawn had a Blackberry. They have a GPS chip so even if he blocked pings his phone can still be tracked through that chip whether the phone is pinging or not if he did not disable the GPS (not sure you can do this on the newer Blackberrys).  Lyle the lawyer needs to wrap his head in tin foil IMO. 
::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 11:47:37 AM
"Billie is in Denial" Says Nancy Grace Guest  (with video)

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333266


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: goodnmad on January 20, 2011, 11:47:48 AM
Hi, everyone ... been following the case. Sadly, I think they will not find her alive. Sad that they are looking in landfills -- this child was not trash  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Does the mom Billie remind anyone else of Misty Croslin?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:51:12 AM
Hi, everyone ... been following the case. Sadly, I think they will not find her alive. Sad that they are looking in landfills -- this child was not trash  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Does the mom Billie remind anyone else of Misty Croslin?

Very much so, SISTER.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I thought the landfill in Colorado City had already been searched.  :smt102


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: goodnmad on January 20, 2011, 11:53:56 AM
hiya Fanny Mae

Don't know, thought it was landfill in another nearby town ... I really hope Billie had nothing to do - at least directly  - with what happened -- I know she is responsible in many other ways ... I'm so tired of kids and women ending up tossed aside like trash!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 11:57:16 AM
Thurs. 1/20 News Update  (with video)

The mother of the missing 13-year-old Colorado City girl spoke to us about the search for her daughter. Billie Dunn spent part of yesterday with investigators in the search for evidence in her daughter -- Hailey Dunn's -- case. It's been more than three weeks since the girl was reported missing December 28th. Dunn went to some landfills and other areas around Colorado City yesterday with police -- but says she's still hoping to find her daughter alive." As far as i am aware there is still no evidence of foul play i am still looking for a breathing living Hailey and I don’t want people to lose sight of that i want everyone to continue looking for my daughter living and as long as i can believe that i am going to believe that," Dunn said. Earlier this week -- investigators said Billie Dunn's Boyfriend -- Shawn Adkins is a "suspect" in the little girl's disappearance. Investigators will only say they have several people of interest besides Adkins -- but have made no arrest.

http://conchovalleyhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=104146


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 12:02:16 PM
hiya Fanny Mae

Don't know, thought it was landfill in another nearby town ... I really hope Billie had nothing to do - at least directly  - with what happened -- I know she is responsible in many other ways ... I'm so tired of kids and women ending up tossed aside like trash!  ::MonkeyMad::

Last count it was Colorado City, Lubbock, Albilene and Coleman. But we got that info from Kampfer, so I guess we really don't know where they have searched. It changes minute by minute.  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: WillenFan21 on January 20, 2011, 12:03:22 PM
Nancy Grace

BREAKING NEWS: police & cadaver dogs zero in on a landfill in the search for missing 13-year-old cheerleader Hailey Dunn, according to new local reports!


http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 12:03:39 PM

JANET, how are you so sure Billie didn't just didn't tell the police that night Shawn had threatened Hailey too? Shawn admitted to the police he did. She has hedged and picked her words when speaking about him even now. I am sure she had a habit of downplaying anything bad about Shawn because she loves him. She's still skirting any of his bad issues. I believe she still wants him back and will do so at the first opportunity.

In the 911 tapes ... Billie does not even mention Hailey ... did not accuse Shawn of threatening Hailey.  She accuses Shawn of threatening her and Clint.

Whether Shawn threatened Hailey's life in not in that domestic dispute of February, 2010 ... according to the 911 calls ... he did threaten the lives of her mother and father.  Billie should have consider the well-being of her children above herself and never have allowed Shawn back into her life.

I suspect that Shawn's deceptive actions on the morning of December 27th implies that he is behind whatever happened to Hailey.

Also ... considering the weather ... considering Hailey's jacket ... it is my belief that Hailey never left that home alive.

Janet

++++++

Hailey's Mom to 911: Shawn's Threatening to Kill Me
Wednesday, January 19 2011


Colorado City, TX -   KTAB News has obtained 911 calls made in February 2010 related to a domestic dispute during which, according to police affidavits, Shawn Adkins allegedly threatened to kill 13-year-old Hailey Dunn and her mother. ....
 
According to search warrant affidavits filed after Hailey's disappearance, Adkins admitted to investigators that he threatened the lives of both Billie and Hailey during a domestic dispute.

The three 911 calls, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, refer to threats made against Billie and her estranged husband, Clint, but not against Hailey.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332786


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 12:04:37 PM
Thurs. 1/20 News Update  (with video)

The mother of the missing 13-year-old Colorado City girl spoke to us about the search for her daughter. Billie Dunn spent part of yesterday with investigators in the search for evidence in her daughter -- Hailey Dunn's -- case. It's been more than three weeks since the girl was reported missing December 28th. Dunn went to some landfills and other areas around Colorado City yesterday with police -- but says she's still hoping to find her daughter alive." As far as i am aware there is still no evidence of foul play i am still looking for a breathing living Hailey and I don’t want people to lose sight of that i want everyone to continue looking for my daughter living and as long as i can believe that i am going to believe that," Dunn said. Earlier this week -- investigators said Billie Dunn's Boyfriend -- Shawn Adkins is a "suspect" in the little girl's disappearance. Investigators will only say they have several people of interest besides Adkins -- but have made no arrest.

http://conchovalleyhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=104146

Why would the police take Billie to the landfills??  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 20, 2011, 12:09:27 PM
Thurs. 1/20 News Update  (with video)

The mother of the missing 13-year-old Colorado City girl spoke to us about the search for her daughter. Billie Dunn spent part of yesterday with investigators in the search for evidence in her daughter -- Hailey Dunn's -- case. It's been more than three weeks since the girl was reported missing December 28th. Dunn went to some landfills and other areas around Colorado City yesterday with police -- but says she's still hoping to find her daughter alive." As far as i am aware there is still no evidence of foul play i am still looking for a breathing living Hailey and I don’t want people to lose sight of that i want everyone to continue looking for my daughter living and as long as i can believe that i am going to believe that," Dunn said. Earlier this week -- investigators said Billie Dunn's Boyfriend -- Shawn Adkins is a "suspect" in the little girl's disappearance. Investigators will only say they have several people of interest besides Adkins -- but have made no arrest.

http://conchovalleyhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=104146

Why would the police take Billie to the landfills??  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::
Reality check


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 12:17:49 PM
Search Continues for Hailey Dunn  (video)

http://conchovalleyhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=104076


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
Colorado City Plans Friday Vigil for Hailey Dunn

Residents in Colorado City are planning another prayer vigil to help support the family of Hailey Dunn as well as law enforcement.
The service will be held Friday evening at 7 p.m. in the gym at First Baptist Church in Colorado City. The church is located at 3rd Street at Chestnut.

A number of vigils have already been held in Hailey's honor.

Just a few days after her reported disappearance, the community in Colorado City gathered for a prayer service.

On the evening of January 9, vigils were held in Sweetwater and Coahoma.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333396


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 12:25:45 PM
Time Line: Dunn's Disappearance and Search Efforts

The following time line of events was compiled by Bigcountryhomepage.com based on information gathered each day during the search for Hailey Dunn, interviews with Hailey's mother both conducted by our reporters and by Headline News' Nancy Grace, by reports published by other local media outlets, such as ccitynews.net, information from investigators, and search warrant affidavits.  This time line is not meant to be a point of reference, not a fact guide.

Anyone with information about Hailey Dunn is asked to contact the Colorado City Police Department at 325-728-5294.

Sunday, Dec. 26

•Hailey spent the night with her dad, Clint Dunn, on Christmas, so the morning of Dec. 26 was the last time he saw her
•David Dunn, Hailey's brother, says Hailey is playing a video game at home at 9 p.m.   Based on her skill level, he believes she'll be playing until midnight.
Monday, Dec. 27

•Hailey's mother, Billie Dunn, says live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins is fired from his job after some sort of blow-up
•Affidavits show Adkins arrived to work in Snyder at 6 a.m. and left without saying anything at 6:10 a.m.
•Adkins tells authorities he went straight to his mother's home in Big Spring.  However, cell phone records show Adkins phone was used at 6:35 a.m. and 6:56 a.m. in Colorado City.
•Nearly a dozen call were made from Adkins' phone in the Big Spring area from 9:38 a.m. to 2:40 p.m.
•A neighbor reportedly sees Hailey talking on the phone in her backyard around noon.
•Adkins tells authorities comes home at 3 p.m.
•Hailey tells him at 3:15 p.m. that she is going to her dad’s, then to Mary Beth’s for a sleepover, but neither Clint nor Mary Beth see or hear from her.
•Adkins and Dunn withdraw $140 from an ATM in Snyder Monday evening.  Affidavits say the money was used to purchase illegal narcotics.
Tuesday, Dec. 28

•Billie calls her son, David, and asks him to tell Hailey to come home
•Hailey is reported missing
Wednesday, Dec. 29

•Bigcountryhomepage.com reports the story and airs a description of Hailey, saying police are treating it as a missing person
Thursday, Dec. 30

•A description and photo of the missing girl have been entered in the TCIC NCIC Region 5 broadcast system which covers surrounding counties. Also, the information has been put on the CopSync system providing anyone in the state with the CopSync system a picture and information on Dunn.
•Bigcountryhomepage.com reports interim police chief John Bivens is treating the case as a runaway
•Searches begin in Colorado City
Friday, Dec. 31

•Bloodhounds follow Hailey’s scent through her neighborhood and to the general vicinity of the Western Suites Motel
•Friends set up a Facebook page to spread the word
•A donor creates a $1,000 reward
Saturday, Jan. 1

•Concerned residents looking to get the word out about Hailey's disappearance turn to the internet and social media.
Sunday, Jan. 2

•The reward is increased to $10,000
•Hundreds show up for a candlelight vigil
Monday, Jan. 3

•Nancy Grace takes Hailey’s disappearance national and interviews Billie Dunn
•Grace and guests criticize the initial treatment of the case as a “runaway”
•FindHaileyDunn.com is created
Tuesday, Jan. 4

•Reward is increased to $25,000 (to be later reduced to $15,000)

•The case is changed with “missing person”

Wednesday, Jan. 5

•Billie Dunn, Adkins take polygraph tests.  Both fail, according to Dunn.
•Adkins leaves town to stay with relatives
•Dunn is interrogated for more than 10 hours
•ABC News airs story about disappearance
Thursday, Jan. 6

•Texas Rangers search Dunn home and seize evidence
•DPS helicopter conducts aerial search
•Investigators say the search is intensifying and they’re narrowing leads
•Billie Dunn appears again on Nancy Grace, saying she was told Adkins failed the polygraph prior to her test, then failed herself.
•Lamar unveils donated missing person billboards
•CBS News, Fox News air stories about disappearance
Friday, Jan. 7

•Volunteers are asked to gather at 2 p.m. at the Mitchell County Court House to begin a county-wide search
•Law enforcement conducts door-to-door interviews in Colorado City
•The polygraph administrator says he did not release the results to anyone
•DPS interviews Billie Dunn again   
Saturday, Jan. 8

•Volunteers head out to again search for clues
•Law enforcement continues going door-to-door in Colorado City. Primary focus for the day moves to Dunn, Texas
•Authorities say they've found nothing to lead them to believe foul play is involved in Hailey's disappearance.
•"Find Hailey Dunn" Facebook page reaches 10,000 fans.
•Billie and Clint Dunn both submit DNA samples in the event a body needs to be identified.
Sunday, Jan. 9

•Authorities say key players in the case are not being forthcoming with the truth
•A witness comes forward saying she saw Hailey walking with two girls either December 26th or 27th. Authorities ask those girls to come forward
•Hundreds gather in towns across the Big Country to pray for Hailey at vigils.
Monday, Jan. 10

•DPS and the Texas Rangers spoke to Colorado Middle School students pleading for anyone who knew anything about Hailey to come forward.  They emphasized to the kids that no one was in trouble.
•Investigators interview two students, but haven't said if they are the ones that were spotted with Hailey.
•Nancy Grace dedicates another one-hour broadcast to the Dunn investigation.
•Law enforcement says they're working two investigations in this case: one that Hailey is a missing person and two that she's the victim of a crime.
•Authorities say there's no evidence Hailey is a runaway or is hiding.
Tuesday, Jan. 11

•Investigators plan to follow up on leads from the dozens of tips they're receiving each day.
•The FBI gets involved in the releasing of information to the public.
•Officers say they'll try to do a better job communicating with the family.
•Affidavits are released revealing a chilling timeline of events regarding Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins
Wednesday, Jan. 12

•Billie Dunn responds to the affidavits saying most of the items are true.  She does have issue with three aspects of the documents.
•Adkins refuses to respond to the affidavits
•Authorities say they have several "persons of interest."  They reveal Adkins is among them.
•Law enforcement says its continues to follow up on the nearly 250 tips they've received.  80 square miles has been searched.
•Nancy Grace again features the Dunn case.
Thursday, Jan. 13

•An article appears on the main page of CNN.com bringing Hailey's story to tens of thousands.
•Hailey's paternal grandmother says Hailey was scared of Adkins and theorizes that he killed her


Friday, Jan. 14

•Adkins is named a suspect in the investigation.
•Dunn's seized car is returned to her; investigators hold on to a few items from inside the car
•Investigators comb through an Abilene landfill looking for clues.

Saturday, Jan. 15

•Officials confirm the search at an Abilene landfill did not result in any evidence found.
•Shawn Adkins refuses our requests for interview for the fifth straight day.
Monday, Jan. 17


•Authorities reveal they need more evidence to arrest Shawn Adkins.
•Advocate group KlaasKids announces it will be going to Colorado City to help search for Hailey
Tuesday, Jan. 18


•KlaasKids and Laura Recovery Center arrive in Colorado City to help volunteers search for Hailey.
•Authorities confirm they are looking into a text message discussed on Monday evening's broadcast of Nancy Grace that may have been sent from the phone Hailey was using.
•KTAB News releases 911 calls in which Billie Dunn says Shawn Adkins has threatened to kill her and Clint Dunn.
•A witness tells KRBC's Jessica Reyes she saw Hailey on the reported morning of her disappearance walking with a young black male, approximately 6-7 years old.
•KRBC releases new images of Hailey Dunn, provided by one of her teachers.
Wednesday, Jan. 19


•Clint and Billie Dunn meet with volunteers as KlaasKids and Laura Recovery Center help organize search efforts
•Sources tell bigcountryhomepage.com CPS is looking into the Dunns. Billie Dunn confirms she voluntarily placed her other child with relatives.
•Nancy Grace takes 911 calls, first reported by KTAB, national.
•Kampfer says if Hailey is indeed the victim of a crime, the district attorney's office needs a body for successful prosecution.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=329087


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 20, 2011, 12:37:11 PM
Let me run this by you....I'm trying to understand Billie..so here goes.

BD worked long shifts and HD was in school, sports, cheering and band. hd also spent a lot of time out of the home..sleep overs, dad's, living with other people. Even when there they didn't spend a lot of family time together ( not aware of times kids were coming and going )

Now with SA except when both were working they spent most of their time together.

I think that it is harder to realize that HD is really gone because she really hasn't been there a whole lot but she really misses SA because he was there.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 12:38:45 PM
Jinkasauraus said on HLN that the Coloroado City landfill is being searched today for something specific.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 12:42:48 PM
Colorado City Plans Friday Vigil for Hailey Dunn

Residents in Colorado City are planning another prayer vigil to help support the family of Hailey Dunn as well as law enforcement.
The service will be held Friday evening at 7 p.m. in the gym at First Baptist Church in Colorado City. The church is located at 3rd Street at Chestnut.

A number of vigils have already been held in Hailey's honor.

Just a few days after her reported disappearance, the community in Colorado City gathered for a prayer service.

On the evening of January 9, vigils were held in Sweetwater and Coahoma.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333396

I know many of us join them in prayer for Hailey. I know I sound glib and joke around a lot, but honestly I hope and pray Hailey comes home. I hope she has run away or that someone has her and lets her go. As a matter of fact, I have a candle burning for her right now. I know it is a fervent prayer for everybody.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I wish I had a good feeling about Hailey, but I do not. But I still pray, hard. I wouldn't want to be in Billie's shoes for anything in this world. I know she is not the brightest bulb, but I have a deep down gut feeling she is easily led, and I have a big fear where she was led and by whom. I still thinks she knows things. I wish I didn't, but I do. She is scared to tell things, or admit them. If she did, she would have to face the cold hard truth. This is my opinion, and I'm not trying to sway anyone. It is just what I think.

SISTER mentioned Billie reminding her of Misty. Misty, I believe was led and she is paying the price. She has still held out what happened the night Haleigh went missing, and is still holding out to this day. She has made up several stories and has covered  for Ron, in my opinion, because of love. She is now in jail, and so is he. The truth has still never been told. Was it because she was so stoned she just doesn't really know what happened. Is that the case with Billie?

 Love is a double edged sword, as most of us know. Mix in drugs and it is even more so. We have seen mothers cover for boyfriends even when it is an infant involved. So it is not outside the realm of being possible. Do I know for sure? No, no more that anyone else. But it is what I see happening every day I come here to Hailey's thread. JMO
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 20, 2011, 12:43:01 PM
Jinkasauraus said on HLN that the Coloroado City landfill is being searched today for something specific.

Specific (like a body).


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 12:47:24 PM
Let me run this by you....I'm trying to understand Billie..so here goes.

BD worked long shifts and HD was in school, sports, cheering and band. hd also spent a lot of time out of the home..sleep overs, dad's, living with other people. Even when there they didn't spend a lot of family time together ( not aware of times kids were coming and going )

Now with SA except when both were working they spent most of their time together.

I think that it is harder to realize that HD is really gone because she really hasn't been there a whole lot but she really misses SA because he was there.

I definitely think she was more connected to Shawn than she was with her children. There could also be the lure of doing drugs together with him and he might have been supplying her with them. She may have an addiction to both.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 12:48:07 PM
Jinkasauraus said on HLN that the Coloroado City landfill is being searched today for something specific.

I wonder if it has anything to do with Billie being taken to the landfills yesterday?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 12:50:21 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333406

BREAKING NEWS

Source: Searchers to Return to Colorado City Landfill
Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Thursday, January 20 2011

Sources tell bigcountryhomepage.com that searchers will return to the Colorado City landfill in their ongoing investigation into the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

It's unclear exactly when that search will take place. However, it could happen as soon as today.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer could not confirm the development but wouldn't deny it either.

Investigators combed through trash at Allied Waste Services in Abilene last Friday and law enforcement deemed the search "unsuccessful."

Kampfer says while dogs got two "hits" during that search, nothing has been confirmed as evidence in the case.

Trash from Colorado City is transferred to Abilene, Odessa, or Snyder, Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com.

Texas DPS Senior Trooper Sparky Dean says the Colorado City landfill has previously been searched.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 20, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
Something specific? Did someone talk?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on January 20, 2011, 01:13:27 PM
reading back about the neighbor lady who said that she saw Hailey with a 6-7 yr old boy..
LE is not going to question the boy because a 6 yr old is not a credible witness...I beg to differ..a 6 yr old child can be very articulate in my opinion...and even if he isn't, why not question him anyways to see what he knows if anything? or do they even know who this child is??
I am not approving of this bungling police force...jmo...the more I hear and read, the less faith I have in them doing this investigation of Hailey missing..the FBI is on the case right?thought I read that here...

 I apologize cause I am behind in reading.. I agree with you Cookie.. a child of 6 or 7 isnt a dummy. For goodness sakes.. my 21 mth old Grandaughter and even talk.. and ask her what she ate for breakfast or lucn or dinner the DAT BEFORE.. she rattles it off. LOL

I just also listened to those 911 calls..  Ummmmmmm  The first call.. instead of the dumb dispatcher saying the cops can't stand at ya'lls house all day.. or something like that.. SHE should have had the police to ride arounds the home whomever was working the area . The second call.. the dispatcher and the officer were both asswipes IMO.. dumb dispatcher first off for getting the info wrong and the cop seemed pissy.. well thats your job buddy. IF any of us would have conducted ourselves that way OR made a mistake like that dumb dispatcher.. our butt would have been fired.  Third call was a joke too.  ::MonkeyEek::

I want to thank everyone who posts links and everything. I been reading a few different threads and usually dont have much to add. LOL

back when I was a dispatcher.. we had people call in just like Billie did and Shawn or whatever on a daily basis.. sometimes 5 to 6 times per day... EVERYDAY of the week. We called them frquent flyers.. LOL  Anyhow.. no matter WHAT the situation was EVEN though we and officers knew most of the people were off their rockers and some mental.. they STILL had to go to the residence and chek it out BECAUSE if they didn;t and it was actually something BAD>. their butts would be in so much trouble. SUre it can be annoying for dispatcher and officers.. but its their jobs!!

I have to agree with alof of folks here.. IMO.. Billie seems to be quite an air head.. I like to say.. The lights are on.. but nobodys home.. when I think of her.  she may know something and perhaps too afraid to spill it cuz she seems to wrapped up STILL in the POS ex BF of hers.  I think the only thing shes guilty of is after whats happened before.. with those 911 calls.. letting Shawn back into her and the kids lives.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 20, 2011, 01:13:47 PM
Jinkasauraus said on HLN that the Coloroado City landfill is being searched today for something specific.

You silly Monkey  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Is that JEAN? 

No Rose, you give a lighter side to such a painful situation. You are good. ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 01:24:24 PM
Jinkasauraus said on HLN that the Coloroado City landfill is being searched today for something specific.

You silly Monkey  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Is that JEAN? 

No Rose, you give a lighter side to such a painful situation. You are good. ::monkeywine2::

One and the same.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 01:25:10 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333406

BREAKING NEWS

Source: Searchers to Return to Colorado City Landfill
Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Thursday, January 20 2011

Sources tell bigcountryhomepage.com that searchers will return to the Colorado City landfill in their ongoing investigation into the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

It's unclear exactly when that search will take place. However, it could happen as soon as today.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer could not confirm the development but wouldn't deny it either.

Investigators combed through trash at Allied Waste Services in Abilene last Friday and law enforcement deemed the search "unsuccessful."

Kampfer says while dogs got two "hits" during that search, nothing has been confirmed as evidence in the case.

Trash from Colorado City is transferred to Abilene, Odessa, or Snyder, Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com.

Texas DPS Senior Trooper Sparky Dean says the Colorado City landfill has previously been searched.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer could not confirm the development but wouldn't deny it either.   ::MonkeyCool::  Sparky got his tongue today?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 01:34:29 PM
reading back about the neighbor lady who said that she saw Hailey with a 6-7 yr old boy..
LE is not going to question the boy because a 6 yr old is not a credible witness...I beg to differ..a 6 yr old child can be very articulate in my opinion...and even if he isn't, why not question him anyways to see what he knows if anything? or do they even know who this child is??
I am not approving of this bungling police force...jmo...the more I hear and read, the less faith I have in them doing this investigation of Hailey missing..the FBI is on the case right?thought I read that here...

 I apologize cause I am behind in reading.. I agree with you Cookie.. a child of 6 or 7 isnt a dummy. For goodness sakes.. my 21 mth old Grandaughter and even talk.. and ask her what she ate for breakfast or lucn or dinner the DAT BEFORE.. she rattles it off. LOL

I just also listened to those 911 calls..  Ummmmmmm  The first call.. instead of the dumb dispatcher saying the cops can't stand at ya'lls house all day.. or something like that.. SHE should have had the police to ride arounds the home whomever was working the area . The second call.. the dispatcher and the officer were both asswipes IMO.. dumb dispatcher first off for getting the info wrong and the cop seemed pissy.. well thats your job buddy. IF any of us would have conducted ourselves that way OR made a mistake like that dumb dispatcher.. our butt would have been fired.  Third call was a joke too.  ::MonkeyEek::

I want to thank everyone who posts links and everything. I been reading a few different threads and usually dont have much to add. LOL

back when I was a dispatcher.. we had people call in just like Billie did and Shawn or whatever on a daily basis.. sometimes 5 to 6 times per day... EVERYDAY of the week. We called them frquent flyers.. LOL  Anyhow.. no matter WHAT the situation was EVEN though we and officers knew most of the people were off their rockers and some mental.. they STILL had to go to the residence and chek it out BECAUSE if they didn;t and it was actually something BAD>. their butts would be in so much trouble. SUre it can be annoying for dispatcher and officers.. but its their jobs!!

I have to agree with alof of folks here.. IMO.. Billie seems to be quite an air head.. I like to say.. The lights are on.. but nobodys home.. when I think of her.  she may know something and perhaps too afraid to spill it cuz she seems to wrapped up STILL in the POS ex BF of hers.  I think the only thing shes guilty of is after whats happened before.. with those 911 calls.. letting Shawn back into her and the kids lives.

ITA about the 6-7 year old child that Hailey was supposedly sighted with...Maybe some monkey here will recall,I can't, but read or heard that the little boy in question was the son of Clint's GF. I haven't heard or seen much about this girlfriend although I have some questions about her and her relationship with Clint's children. I'd appreciate it if some other monkeys would voice their opinions/theories on the following questions:

Billie has stated that hailey didn't like Shawn because she thought he stood in the way of her parents reconciling. If that's true, wouldn't Hailey have had some issues with her father's girlfriend and new baby being in the way as well?

If the 6-7 yr old in question was the GF son, why hasn't he been questioned? (note- I think the story of him not being credible is BS)

Then there's the issue of the earring found in Clint and the GF's house after they moved. While Clint has stated that Hailey never stopped by that day...was he there all day? Is it possible that hailey did stop by to visit while her father was put briefly?

I know SA is a suspect, and I agree he should be, I just hope LE is keeping an open mind and looking at all the possibilities. More importantly, and parental lifestyles aside, I just really hope this little girl comes home alive....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 01:37:09 PM
Yikes - self edit...

Then there's the issue of the earring found in Clint and the GF's house after they moved. While Clint has stated that Hailey never stopped by that day...was he there all day? Is it possible that hailey did stop by to visit while her father was put out briefly?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 01:48:26 PM
reading back about the neighbor lady who said that she saw Hailey with a 6-7 yr old boy..
LE is not going to question the boy because a 6 yr old is not a credible witness...I beg to differ..a 6 yr old child can be very articulate in my opinion...and even if he isn't, why not question him anyways to see what he knows if anything? or do they even know who this child is??
I am not approving of this bungling police force...jmo...the more I hear and read, the less faith I have in them doing this investigation of Hailey missing..the FBI is on the case right?thought I read that here...

 I apologize cause I am behind in reading.. I agree with you Cookie.. a child of 6 or 7 isnt a dummy. For goodness sakes.. my 21 mth old Grandaughter and even talk.. and ask her what she ate for breakfast or lucn or dinner the DAT BEFORE.. she rattles it off. LOL

I just also listened to those 911 calls..  Ummmmmmm  The first call.. instead of the dumb dispatcher saying the cops can't stand at ya'lls house all day.. or something like that.. SHE should have had the police to ride arounds the home whomever was working the area . The second call.. the dispatcher and the officer were both asswipes IMO.. dumb dispatcher first off for getting the info wrong and the cop seemed pissy.. well thats your job buddy. IF any of us would have conducted ourselves that way OR made a mistake like that dumb dispatcher.. our butt would have been fired.  Third call was a joke too.  ::MonkeyEek::

I want to thank everyone who posts links and everything. I been reading a few different threads and usually dont have much to add. LOL

back when I was a dispatcher.. we had people call in just like Billie did and Shawn or whatever on a daily basis.. sometimes 5 to 6 times per day... EVERYDAY of the week. We called them frquent flyers.. LOL  Anyhow.. no matter WHAT the situation was EVEN though we and officers knew most of the people were off their rockers and some mental.. they STILL had to go to the residence and chek it out BECAUSE if they didn;t and it was actually something BAD>. their butts would be in so much trouble. SUre it can be annoying for dispatcher and officers.. but its their jobs!!

I have to agree with alof of folks here.. IMO.. Billie seems to be quite an air head.. I like to say.. The lights are on.. but nobodys home.. when I think of her.  she may know something and perhaps too afraid to spill it cuz she seems to wrapped up STILL in the POS ex BF of hers.  I think the only thing shes guilty of is after whats happened before.. with those 911 calls.. letting Shawn back into her and the kids lives.

The dispatcher definitely got it wrong about who was doing the threatening. If it wasn't caught at the time by his supervisor, surely it should be a reprimand now. However, the conversation between the dispatcher and the officer was on the phone, not broadcast on the radio. The "Oh God" comment by the officer was to the dispatcher, and I have heard such comments many times myself as a dispatcher. We had "frequent flyers" too, and many times dispatched by phone in these cases. I don't know how many times Billie, Clint, or Shawn had called the police that day. It seems like these three calls were not the only ones. It might have been the only ones that referred to the threats and that is why they were the only ones released. There could also have been domestic calls or complaints on other days at other times where a report was not filled out. It sounded to me they were very familiar with 1804 Chestnut St.

It is a drain on the police and dispatchers to deal with these same complaints over and over. Sometimes other pressing calls have to be put on hold because of them. The dispatcher and police officer both sounded frustrated to me. I can't expect the officer to be happy, happy, happy over having to go back over there. But he did go back and service the call as far as I can tell. I wouldn't come down too hard over an officer making a statement like that to his dispatcher. I know it's his job, but how many times do people in other occupations complain over what they have to do when they feel it is unnecessary and there is nothing they can do. If the complainant isn't willing to go down and sign a warrant against the person who is doing the threatening and the threatening person isn't there there is not much the officer could do. I doubt if Billie was willing to sign a warrant against Shawn. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Colorado City landfill target today as part of search for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn

COLORADO CITY – Law enforcement will be using cadaver dogs this afternoon to search the landfill in Colorado City for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn.

The number of volunteers dwindled to about 20 today, due to the cold weather, organizers said.

Two volunteer search teams gathered for the second time this morning. They will be searching areas along Hwy 208 toward the community of Dunn, which is north of Colorado City.

“We will be looking in areas all along there,” said Brad Dennis of the KlaasKids Foundation, which is organizing the volunteer search for the 13-year-old.

Hailey Dunn has been missing for over three weeks.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/20/colorado-city-landfill-target-today-part-search-mi/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 01:51:41 PM
Laura Recovery Center for missing children

Update on the search for Hailey Dunn. Very cold and windy today in Colorado City, Texas. Three very dedicated volunteer teams are on the ground searching. A prayer vigil for Hailey has been set up for Friday night at the 1st Baptist Church gym at 7:00p.m. The church is located at 3rd & Chestnut in Colorado City. Everyone is welcome.
about an hour ago

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Laura-Recovery-Center-for-missing-children/116361385094269


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
One thing I do know is you don't look for a live person in a landfill with cadaver dogs  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 01:54:17 PM
<snipped>

Trash from Colorado City is transferred to Abilene, Odessa, or Snyder, Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333406



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 01:54:26 PM
Yikes - self edit...

Then there's the issue of the earring found in Clint and the GF's house after they moved. While Clint has stated that Hailey never stopped by that day...was he there all day? Is it possible that hailey did stop by to visit while her father was put out briefly?



I honestly think the earring is a non-issue. Shawn gave the description. Isn't he the suspect? Should we believe he saw Hailey with that earring on that day? She had, after all, spent Christmas at her dad's and had only come back home on Sunday. She could have easily lost it during that time.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 01:55:27 PM
One thing I do know is you don't look for a live person in a landfill with cadaver dogs  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree. If Kampfer is former FBI he must have been sick during the course on what cadaver dogs are trained to look for. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 01:58:50 PM
One thing I do know is you don't look for a live person in a landfill with cadaver dogs  ::MonkeyNoNo::

No they don't. If they were looking for something that belonged to some member of the family or a suspect, they would be using tracking dogs if I am not mistaken.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 02:06:20 PM
Yikes - self edit...

Then there's the issue of the earring found in Clint and the GF's house after they moved. While Clint has stated that Hailey never stopped by that day...was he there all day? Is it possible that hailey did stop by to visit while her father was put out briefly?



I honestly think the earring is a non-issue. Shawn gave the description. Isn't he the suspect? Should we believe he saw Hailey with that earring on that day? She had, after all, spent Christmas at her dad's and had only come back home on Sunday. She could have easily lost it during that time.

Hi Fannie, love your posts!

Last night on NG, Billie said she had given police a description and included the earrings Hailey had been wearing. I'm trying to find the transcript, could a kind monkey tell where CNN hides it's NG transcripts? I'd be more than happy to look around and see if I find the part where this was discussed as well as the link. TIA


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 02:10:49 PM
Yikes - self edit...

Then there's the issue of the earring found in Clint and the GF's house after they moved. While Clint has stated that Hailey never stopped by that day...was he there all day? Is it possible that hailey did stop by to visit while her father was put out briefly?



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

But Billie didn't see what Hailey was wearing on Monday. She was still asleep when Billie left the house.

I honestly think the earring is a non-issue. Shawn gave the description. Isn't he the suspect? Should we believe he saw Hailey with that earring on that day? She had, after all, spent Christmas at her dad's and had only come back home on Sunday. She could have easily lost it during that time.

Hi Fannie, love your posts!

Last night on NG, Billie said she had given police a description and included the earrings Hailey had been wearing. I'm trying to find the transcript, could a kind monkey tell where CNN hides it's NG transcripts? I'd be more than happy to look around and see if I find the part where this was discussed as well as the link. TIA


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 02:11:26 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Clint ends up getting DD.

Have you researched Clint's background?  While Billie has been villified in regards to her selfish choices that put her children at risk ... Clint has been given a pass.  It is my believe that both these parents failed their children big time.  They both were aware of the red flags and took no action to prevent what ultimately happened.

Janet

Clint's background has been posted on this thread. He's not been an angel, drug charges etc. He was in jail for MJ not long ago. I don't think Clint has been given a pass as far as being a role model. But at least he moved to where he could watch out for the kids, and has had his home open to them. Also, he is at least out trying to find Hailey, thanking the searchers, and not sitting on the sofa getting face time with the media and trying to text with Shawn.

I do not find fault in the respective efforts by Billie and Clint to be a positive force in the quest for answers regarding their daughter.

However ... it must be h--- for Billie to appear as a guest on the Nancy Grace show night and night being villified as the only parent who made poor lifestyle choices that put Hailey at risk.  Yet she stays focus.

Janet

++++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 18, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: I want to go back to Billie Dunn. Back to the question the caller presented earlier. Between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m.. Why? Why? Let`s see that ping record again, Liz. The map. Why would he go into work, Billie, take a look at his boss, 6:00 a.m., take a sip of soda and walk out? Then tell you he got fired or quit or some such story as that when the boss said that`s not what happened at all. He just turned around and walked out. Then his pings placed him back around your home between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. Then between 7:00 and 9:00, nothing. Then the pings put him at his mother`s house around 9:00 up until 2:40 p.m.

What do you see in that scenario, Billie Dunn? What`s he doing back around your home?

DUNN: I don`t know. That`s all stuff I need a lot of answers to, that we all need a lot of answers to.

GRACE: Well, have you tried to ask him?

DUNN: No.

GRACE: Why?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him. He`ll send a text every now and then. But I haven`t asked him, why did you come back to the house? He never let me know that. I didn`t know that until the affidavits came out and showed his pings. That he had come back here first, then to Big Spring.
 
GRACE: Well, why haven`t you asked him?

DUNN: Per his lawyer, he can`t talk to me.

GRACE: ... His lawyer has told him not to talk to you? ....

DUNN: Right.

GRACE: Why?

DUNN: I don`t know. There`s a lot of questions I have and I guess that`s why.  Also, I have gone over there with Texas Rangers to try to get him to come talk. Shawn, you need to talk. It`ll just be two guys. There`s a lot of answers you can provide. And that`s probably why they`re not wanting me to talk to him.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 02:12:13 PM
Yikes - self edit...

Then there's the issue of the earring found in Clint and the GF's house after they moved. While Clint has stated that Hailey never stopped by that day...was he there all day? Is it possible that hailey did stop by to visit while her father was put out briefly?



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

But Billie didn't see what Hailey was wearing on Monday. She was still asleep when Billie left the house.

I honestly think the earring is a non-issue. Shawn gave the description. Isn't he the suspect? Should we believe he saw Hailey with that earring on that day? She had, after all, spent Christmas at her dad's and had only come back home on Sunday. She could have easily lost it during that time.

Hi Fannie, love your posts!

Last night on NG, Billie said she had given police a description and included the earrings Hailey had been wearing. I'm trying to find the transcript, could a kind monkey tell where CNN hides it's NG transcripts? I'd be more than happy to look around and see if I find the part where this was discussed as well as the link. TIA
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

But Billie didn't see what Hailey was wearing on Monday. She was still asleep when Billie left the house.
Sorry, I got in your box. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 02:12:13 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 02:14:49 PM
Yikes - self edit...

Then there's the issue of the earring found in Clint and the GF's house after they moved. While Clint has stated that Hailey never stopped by that day...was he there all day? Is it possible that hailey did stop by to visit while her father was put out briefly?



I honestly think the earring is a non-issue. Shawn gave the description. Isn't he the suspect? Should we believe he saw Hailey with that earring on that day? She had, after all, spent Christmas at her dad's and had only come back home on Sunday. She could have easily lost it during that time.

Hi Fannie, love your posts!

Last night on NG, Billie said she had given police a description and included the earrings Hailey had been wearing. I'm trying to find the transcript, could a kind monkey tell where CNN hides it's NG transcripts? I'd be more than happy to look around and see if I find the part where this was discussed as well as the link. TIA

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 02:17:01 PM
One thing I do know is you don't look for a live person in a landfill with cadaver dogs  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree. If Kampfer is former FBI he must have been sick during the course on what cadaver dogs are trained to look for. 

Which is why him to keep saying they are looking for a live Hailey more ludicrous. I know, they have to have hope as long as they haven't found any evidence of death. But what are they doing to look for a live Hailey? Anyone?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 02:19:11 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

BBM  She thought but she didn't know.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 02:24:12 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It is my belief that the earrings is a non-issue.  It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the the morning of December 27th.  It is also my belief that the search for Hailey's remains should be focused between Colorado City and Big Spring ... the route taken by Shawn to his mother's home.

Then again ... the speculating of this wannabe detective could be wrong.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 02:36:59 PM
The Implications of the Locked Door

1.  Shawn locked the door upon arriving home to an empty house at 3:00 PM or ...
2.  Hailey locked the door when she left the home at 3:15 PM.

The scenario that makes sense to me is #1.  What was Shawn doing behind the locked door?  What prevented him from letting David in immediately?

Janet

+++++

EXCLUSIVE: Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's DisappearanceBy Merlin Mann, KTXS News
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 7:23 am CST January 12, 2011


December 27th - 4:00 PM

On the afternoon of Dec. 27 at about 4 p.m., Hailey’s brother David returned home.

According to his father, Clint Dunn, David arrived about 4 p.m. and pounded on the front door for about five minutes, and no one would let him in the door.

David then let himself into the house through a window, where David said he saw Adkins in a hallway with a “deer in the headlights look.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 02:39:18 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It is my belief that the earrings is a non-issue.  It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the the morning of December 27th.  It is also my belief that the search for Hailey's remains should be focused between Colorado City and Big Spring ... the route taken by Shawn to his mother's home.

Then again ... the speculating of this wannabe detective could be wrong.

Janet


Again we agree JANET.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 20, 2011, 02:39:55 PM
Sanmarie in reply to one of your previous questions.


Billie has stated that hailey didn't like Shawn because she thought he stood in the way of her parents reconciling. If that's true, wouldn't Hailey have had some issues with her father's girlfriend and new baby being in the way as well?

I think this is bs. HD didn't like SA because she was afraid of him...MOO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 02:42:43 PM
One thing I do know is you don't look for a live person in a landfill with cadaver dogs  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree. If Kampfer is former FBI he must have been sick during the course on what cadaver dogs are trained to look for. 

I see it a bit different. I think they're searching for whatever the dogs can find. Maybe they're looking for evidence, such as a murder weapon. I think it's strange that Billie was taken to the dump/landfill prior, but maybe it was to identify something? I can't help but wonder if Hailey was murdered, then maybe her body is in one place while the murder weapon & other evidence is in another.

There's gotta be a reason the police didn't release the info on the cell pings to Billie's phone but they did in fact release Shawn's pings. What calls &/or contacts was Shawn deleting when he was being questioned by police?

Again, I read somewhere that Shawn had a favorite spot as a child - a cave that he frequented. I wonder if that's been looked into and if not then where is it located?

There are several sex offenders in the immediate area of Hailey's home. Some could fit the profile. I notice that Lindsey was brought up, as he spoke out on Clint's behalf informing that Cliont's a great guy etc. IMO Lindsey doesn't fit this profile. I know he's on the registry but he was 20 when convicted, the victim being 14. For all we know they could have been in a relationship or something. He's older now. Would he still be going after the same age? To me, he just doesn't fit. There's some on the resigtry that seem to, though.

We know that Clint was friend's with an offender. There are at least 15 offenders in their immediate area. So, what about Shawn? Is he friend's with any offenders? Maybe somebody that had the same interests as him?

The issue of Hailey's earring doesn;t bother me. I was searching for my 2" white gold hoop since right before Christmas. I found it last night under my sofa. I clean almost every single day & it was under my sofa! Maybe our crazy cat stole it for a toy or something. Chico takes everything that he gets his eyes on, including socks - he's like a darn dog! Do they have any pets...Billie and/or Clint?

Something else... Where is Shawn staying? Is it in Dunn? Isn;t David (DDS) staying in Snyder with family? Isn;t Snyder closer to Dunn than what CCity is? If he was sent away for protection, then why was he placed closer to the only named suspect at the moment?

I'm really taken aback that Marc Klaas  has a team there to search but TES wasn't allowed. I understand Billie could be innocent of directly harming her daughter, but for him to come to her defense the way he does certainly makes me rethink things. I've thought he was a man of good character right up until I saw the way he & Tim went back & forth with each other. I think that bc of Tim's past, Marc came out on top. It shouldn't have been that way. They should have both been side by side. See what getting involved in low life trash does to a person? It brings their integrity into question. They both made mistakes imo with Haleigh Cummings' case. Whatever.

These poor kids. I know it can happen to anybody, race color creed status etc. But it sure does seem that the more somebody is scraping the barrel, the less chance there is of finding their child. Throw drugs into the mix of it all, then it could go on for years bc the stupid pill poppers can't remember facts (or maybe they do but they're being misleading). I'm wondering if the only part of the ld that Billie failed was the part where she was asked about Shawn & Hailey, maybe where Hailey could be located...etc. Maybe she doesn;t truly know but feels like Shawn did something and sort of "thinks" Hailey may have been placed in a certain vicinity. Maybe that's why she failed? Maybe she feels responsible? Listen, I'm definitely not letting her off the rope, bc I sincerely think she's holding back, but it's strange that the cops took her to the landfill. Could they have done that to see if she recognized anything the dogs may have hit on?

The stuff found floating in the river by Shawn's mother's house - has it been disclosed yet if it was placed into evidence? What was it? Goggles & something? I forget...I'll have to search through the threads.

There's alot of oil there, right? Well what about tar pits or something of that nature? Could Hailey have been dumped in something like that? If so, how could something like that be searched?

Something else... When that motel was searched, and considering that the dogs didn;t hit on anything on the ground floor & the police searched the whole ground floor - then since the trail stopped at the door to that ground floor room, could Hailey have been picked up at that point & carried to a vahicle for transport? Did the police or fbi get a list & investigate everyone at the motel that day & prior night? I'd think even employees there should be investigated.

Bottom line - Shawn lied about alot of things. Billie is withholding info and has given inconsistent statements to various media as well as police. Clint is a criminal.

Poor Hailey. She couldn't help the family she was born into. I'm hoping & praying for Hailey, as well as David & Chloe.

OOH, one more thing... I hate to even bring this up but it does seem that Shawn was on the internet and belonged to many various forums. blacktoothgrin07 was Shawn's user name on flixter.com. Here ya go: http://www.flixster.com/user/blacktoothgrin07. Well my son told me the other night that that's also the name of a guild in World of Warcraft. Did he play WOW, and if so, I wonder if anybody could search his info on there. I deleted it from my son's computer and gave the discs away when all the stuff started going down with Terri Horman. WOW freaks me out, but I know it's the most popular game on the net. Hope nobody gets a headache over it, just thought I'd throw it out there...

Klaas, I'm going to search for that info I brought up last night. I see somebody else has posted about it here, too. Again, nothing's verified yet. Re: Stripping.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 02:48:22 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

EWWWWW - Are you kidding me? So she was ALLOWED to wear gauges in her ears at 13 years of age? OMG!

For those not familiar with gauges or think it's harmless so let people do what they want with their bodies, let me just please pretty please say this... When somebody gauges their ears, they are stretching the holes in their piercing. The only way those holes close up is by plastic surgery. However, what most kids & adults do when they want these holes to close up is this: They SLICE the insides of the holes with a razor blade & stick the skin back together, most of the time holding it together with medical tape that you can buy from any pharmacy! 9 times out of 10 they get infected & that portion of their ear then needs to be severed off. It heals with an antibiotic.

Pardon me but wtf. I know, to each their own...but this is a 13 year old girl we're discussing. That's absolutely ludicrous.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 02:51:22 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It is my belief that the earrings is a non-issue.  It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the the morning of December 27th.  It is also my belief that the search for Hailey's remains should be focused between Colorado City and Big Spring ... the route taken by Shawn to his mother's home.

Then again ... the speculating of this wannabe detective could be wrong.

Janet


MY gosh I completely agree with you, Janet!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 20, 2011, 02:51:40 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

EWWWWW - Are you kidding me? So she was ALLOWED to wear gauges in her ears at 13 years of age? OMG!

For those not familiar with gauges or think it's harmless so let people do what they want with their bodies, let me just please pretty please say this... When somebody gauges their ears, they are stretching the holes in their piercing. The only way those holes close up is by plastic surgery. However, what most kids & adults do when they want these holes to close up is this: They SLICE the insides of the holes with a razor blade & stick the skin back together, most of the time holding it together with medical tape that you can buy from any pharmacy! 9 times out of 10 they get infected & that portion of their ear then needs to be severed off. It heals with an antibiotic.

Pardon me but wtf. I know, to each their own...but this is a 13 year old girl we're discussing. That's absolutely ludicrous.
And if you don't take proper care of them, they stink really bad, I have no problem with pierced ears on a girl that age or younger, but have to wonder why she wanted gauges? Maybe the girls at school were wearing them?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 20, 2011, 02:57:34 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26558529/detail.html
Cadaver Dogs To Search Colorado City Landfill Today
POSTED: 11:16 am CST January 20, 2011
UPDATED: 1:46 pm CST January 20, 2011
COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Authorities confirmed to KTXS News that cadaver dogs from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice have arrived and will be searching the Colorado City landfill site Thursday afternoon for missing 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

A worker at the landfill told KTXS that the FBI had notified landfill officials about the search. The dogs and their handlers came seven hours Thursday from Huntsville to reach Colorado City for the search.

Meanwhile, a frigid day Thursday decreased the number of volunteers searching for missing Colorado City 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.

About 20 volunteers showed up Thursday morning on a day when the high temperature should hover in the 30s – with strong northerly winds driving the wind chill index even lower, with temperatures feeling like the low 20s and teens.

About 55 volunteers showed up the previous day to help with the search.

The searchers who showed up Thursday were sent off to areas in Scurry and Mitchell counties, coordinated with law enforcement requests.

The searches are being organized this week by the KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Project, two national organizations that specialize in coordinating searches for missing children.

Meanwhile, it was also announced that the Laura Recovery Project will hold a prayer vigil Friday from 7-8 p.m. in the gym at the First Baptist Church in Colorado City.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

EWWWWW - Are you kidding me? So she was ALLOWED to wear gauges in her ears at 13 years of age? OMG!

For those not familiar with gauges or think it's harmless so let people do what they want with their bodies, let me just please pretty please say this... When somebody gauges their ears, they are stretching the holes in their piercing. The only way those holes close up is by plastic surgery. However, what most kids & adults do when they want these holes to close up is this: They SLICE the insides of the holes with a razor blade & stick the skin back together, most of the time holding it together with medical tape that you can buy from any pharmacy! 9 times out of 10 they get infected & that portion of their ear then needs to be severed off. It heals with an antibiotic.

Pardon me but wtf. I know, to each their own...but this is a 13 year old girl we're discussing. That's absolutely ludicrous.
And if you don't take proper care of them, they stink really bad, I have no problem with pierced ears on a girl that age or younger, but have to wonder why she wanted gauges? Maybe the girls at school were wearing them?

Gauges are becoming more & more popular. So are tattoos. I don't have a problem with any of these things, but Hailey is only 13 years old. My son started begging me to allow him to get a tattoo when he was 14. I told him no way, when he's older he can do what he wants bc he doesn;t know what he'll do in his future. He wants to be a cop, go figure, but if he wanted to work for a bank or something, then he's have to be careful where he places the tattoo. If he still wants one when he turns 18, then I'll take him to Miami Ink for one...make it a fun trip or something. Gauges are a different story, and on a young girl no less. Again, 18 & older, do what you want, but body modification that requires plastic surgery to fix is plain ridiculous for an adult parent to say "yes" to their 13 y/o child. It's ok to say no. Then again, it sure seems like Hailey was raising herself.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 20, 2011, 03:07:36 PM
I agree with you Titch, all this time I thought we were talking about just regular red hoop earrings, don't think I have ever seen a person that young with them.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 03:08:07 PM
RAW: Hailey's Mom Thinks Someone Will Find Her Daughter  (with video)

More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn says she believes someone will find 13-year-old Hailey Dunn alive.
In an interview with KTAB's Priscilla Luong Wednesday, Dunn said national search groups coming to Colorado City to assist are giving her renewed hope.

"Somebody is going to find my daughter," said Dunn. "We have a lot of people looking now and I'm really glad KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center were able to come down and get involved."

Dunn said developments were causing her to hit a low point. She says that's now starting to change.

"I'm hopeful again and going to remain that way," said Dunn. "I think someone is going to find my daughter."

Dunn says she's been speaking with members of both search groups. She says having them there has been a huge help.

"They're able to give me some advice and give me a little bit of comfort," said Dunn. "I can't really be comforted, but there are good people up there to talk to. They've been talking to me a lot since they've been here."

Dunn said she also appreciates everyone who is volunteering their time to search. However, she's happy they haven't found anything.

"I'm glad they're looking, but each day I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt. That's not the way that I want them to find her," added Dunn.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333416


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 03:13:23 PM
Yikes - self edit...

Then there's the issue of the earring found in Clint and the GF's house after they moved. While Clint has stated that Hailey never stopped by that day...was he there all day? Is it possible that hailey did stop by to visit while her father was put out briefly?



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

But Billie didn't see what Hailey was wearing on Monday. She was still asleep when Billie left the house.

I honestly think the earring is a non-issue. Shawn gave the description. Isn't he the suspect? Should we believe he saw Hailey with that earring on that day? She had, after all, spent Christmas at her dad's and had only come back home on Sunday. She could have easily lost it during that time.

Hi Fannie, love your posts!

Last night on NG, Billie said she had given police a description and included the earrings Hailey had been wearing. I'm trying to find the transcript, could a kind monkey tell where CNN hides it's NG transcripts? I'd be more than happy to look around and see if I find the part where this was discussed as well as the link. TIA
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

But Billie didn't see what Hailey was wearing on Monday. She was still asleep when Billie left the house.
Sorry, I got in your box. 

I was thinking the same thing wrt Billie not knowing what she was wearing first hand, Shawn had to tell her and I always thought it was a bit odd he recalled the earrings but didn't remember the color of the shirt (another Anthony-esque moment). But I will say this, those earrings are made just like my BB ring, the ends screw on, but I lost one surfing and never knew it and lost another one......well, let's just say I lost it and leave it at that ::MonkeyWink:: but the point was I didn't notice until much later, in fact the guy I surfed with told me "yeah you didn't have it on when you got out of the water _____day", or I would never have even known when I lost it. To me the earring is a non- issue at the moment and I doubt Billie even noticed whether or not she had both of them on Sunday as her hair would cover easily and IIRC she wasn't sure about alot of things. JMO ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 03:20:20 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

EWWWWW - Are you kidding me? So she was ALLOWED to wear gauges in her ears at 13 years of age? OMG!

For those not familiar with gauges or think it's harmless so let people do what they want with their bodies, let me just please pretty please say this... When somebody gauges their ears, they are stretching the holes in their piercing. The only way those holes close up is by plastic surgery. However, what most kids & adults do when they want these holes to close up is this: They SLICE the insides of the holes with a razor blade & stick the skin back together, most of the time holding it together with medical tape that you can buy from any pharmacy! 9 times out of 10 they get infected & that portion of their ear then needs to be severed off. It heals with an antibiotic.

Pardon me but wtf. I know, to each their own...but this is a 13 year old girl we're discussing. That's absolutely ludicrous.

Yes - special earrings! That is why it struck me as odd one of the earrings was found at Clint's house after he and Naomi moved out. Billie mentioned on NG that these (earring size) are as large as she would allow. Although it seems clear that Billie was somewhat lax in her parenting, there must have been some discussion about the earrings based on the mother's statements. I'm speculating, but if stretching the earlobes was cool and is the new thing to do, and if mom put up a bit of debate before allowing it, wouldn't hailey have noticed the earring was missing? Wouldn't she haver scoured the house and looked in a ll the places she had been to find it? Wouldn't Mom have noticed the day after Christmas, when they were all home together prior to hailey going missing. Just some food for thought.

One other thing, maybe the earring is a non-issue, but I believe when it comes to a missing person, especially a child, there simple are no non-issues....please don't throw nanners at me.....slinking away, back to lurking.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 03:21:36 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It is my belief that the earrings is a non-issue.  It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the the morning of December 27th.  It is also my belief that the search for Hailey's remains should be focused between Colorado City and Big Spring ... the route taken by Shawn to his mother's home.

Then again ... the speculating of this wannabe detective could be wrong.

Janet


MY gosh I completely agree with you, Janet!

It is the timing and Shawn's lies encompassing the events of the morning of December 27th that motivates my suspicions.

1.  Shawn lied in regards to the reason he suddenly departed from his workplace a short time following his arrival.

2.  Shawn lied in regards to his denial that he drove home prior to driving to Big Spring.

Think about the timing of his arrival back home.  Billie had just departed for her job.

Titch ... I suspect that during the night while Billie was sleeping/passed out ... Shawn entered Hailey's room ... sexually assaulted her and ... to assure her silence she was murdered.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: LynneinMd. on January 20, 2011, 03:22:38 PM
I really wish Nancy Grace would ask yes or no questions instead of leading people into long rambling and confusing answers.  You can't get the right answers when you help them out.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 03:24:07 PM
RAW: Hailey's Mom Thinks Someone Will Find Her Daughter  (with video)

More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn says she believes someone will find 13-year-old Hailey Dunn alive.
In an interview with KTAB's Priscilla Luong Wednesday, Dunn said national search groups coming to Colorado City to assist are giving her renewed hope.

"Somebody is going to find my daughter," said Dunn. "We have a lot of people looking now and I'm really glad KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center were able to come down and get involved."

Dunn said developments were causing her to hit a low point. She says that's now starting to change.

"I'm hopeful again and going to remain that way," said Dunn. "I think someone is going to find my daughter."

Dunn says she's been speaking with members of both search groups. She says having them there has been a huge help.

"They're able to give me some advice and give me a little bit of comfort," said Dunn. "I can't really be comforted, but there are good people up there to talk to. They've been talking to me a lot since they've been here."

Dunn said she also appreciates everyone who is volunteering their time to search. However, she's happy they haven't found anything.

"I'm glad they're looking, but each day I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt. That's not the way that I want them to find her," added Dunn.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333416

Aren't the KLASS KIDS searchers and the LAURA RECOVERY CENTER searchers and the volunteers the ones who are combing through the brush and the hills and inside big containers and such. Does she think they are going to find Hailey just walking along though the rocks? Who is looking for a live Hailey?? The police? Mark Klaas? Cadaver dogs?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 03:25:10 PM
I really wish Nancy Grace would ask yes or no questions instead of leading people into long rambling and confusing answers.  You can't get the right answers when you help them out.

And please, please, please stop interrupting them when they are about to give some important information.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 03:27:58 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

EWWWWW - Are you kidding me? So she was ALLOWED to wear gauges in her ears at 13 years of age? OMG!

For those not familiar with gauges or think it's harmless so let people do what they want with their bodies, let me just please pretty please say this... When somebody gauges their ears, they are stretching the holes in their piercing. The only way those holes close up is by plastic surgery. However, what most kids & adults do when they want these holes to close up is this: They SLICE the insides of the holes with a razor blade & stick the skin back together, most of the time holding it together with medical tape that you can buy from any pharmacy! 9 times out of 10 they get infected & that portion of their ear then needs to be severed off. It heals with an antibiotic.

Pardon me but wtf. I know, to each their own...but this is a 13 year old girl we're discussing. That's absolutely ludicrous.

Yes - special earrings! That is why it struck me as odd one of the earrings was found at Clint's house after he and Naomi moved out. Billie mentioned on NG that these (earring size) are as large as she would allow. Although it seems clear that Billie was somewhat lax in her parenting, there must have been some discussion about the earrings based on the mother's statements. I'm speculating, but if stretching the earlobes was cool and is the new thing to do, and if mom put up a bit of debate before allowing it, wouldn't hailey have noticed the earring was missing? Wouldn't she haver scoured the house and looked in a ll the places she had been to find it? Wouldn't Mom have noticed the day after Christmas, when they were all home together prior to hailey going missing. Just some food for thought.

One other thing, maybe the earring is a non-issue, but I believe when it comes to a missing person, especially a child, there simple are no non-issues....please don't throw nanners at me.....slinking away, back to lurking.

No need to slink away. Come back! You have an opinion just like everyone else.

I doubt if there was much debate about allowing the earrings. Billie said she bought them for her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: scooters mommy on January 20, 2011, 03:34:46 PM
SNIPPED:

Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 03:35:42 PM
RAW: Hailey's Mom Thinks Someone Will Find Her Daughter  (with video)

More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn says she believes someone will find 13-year-old Hailey Dunn alive.
In an interview with KTAB's Priscilla Luong Wednesday, Dunn said national search groups coming to Colorado City to assist are giving her renewed hope.

"Somebody is going to find my daughter," said Dunn. "We have a lot of people looking now and I'm really glad KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center were able to come down and get involved."

Dunn said developments were causing her to hit a low point. She says that's now starting to change.

"I'm hopeful again and going to remain that way," said Dunn. "I think someone is going to find my daughter."

Dunn says she's been speaking with members of both search groups. She says having them there has been a huge help.

"They're able to give me some advice and give me a little bit of comfort," said Dunn. "I can't really be comforted, but there are good people up there to talk to. They've been talking to me a lot since they've been here."

Dunn said she also appreciates everyone who is volunteering their time to search. However, she's happy they haven't found anything.

"I'm glad they're looking, but each day I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt. That's not the way that I want them to find her," added Dunn.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333416

Both Billie and Clint do not want to dwell on the indications that they will never again have their daughter in their midst.

Hey ... LE continues to gives Hailey's desperate/vulnerable parents mixed messages.

Janet

++++++++

Missing girl's dad continues mission
Posted January 16, 2011 at midnight


Having read the affidavits pertaining to his daughter's case six times, Clint Dunn said he can't rule out the possibility that something horrible has happened. However, he is trying to stay focused on the chance that she ran away from home.

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/2011/jan/16/missing-girls-dad-continues-mission/


Two Weeks Later: Still No Sign of Hailey Dunn
Monday, January 10 2011


"I'm confident we'll find Hailey," said Dean. "I don't think Hailey wants to be found. I believe she's hiding. She's probably scared at this point. We're going to find her."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=329706


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: scooters mommy on January 20, 2011, 03:36:44 PM
Hello!  Long time lurker - first time poster.  I just posted the explanation for Hailey's earring.  I hope and pray that this girl is found safe.

Pam


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on January 20, 2011, 03:37:42 PM
I know this was discussed several days ago but I can't help thinking about all the old neglected oil wells in that area.  Hundreds of abandoned wells dot the landscape, its been mentioned that Shawn had a cave he frequented.

Wouldn't it also be likely he had knowledge of many "holes" throughout from exploring when he was younger?  Anything from septic tanks, water wells and many drilling sites.  Just so many "Hiding Places" in plain sight out there in Big Country.....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 03:38:49 PM
SNIPPED:

Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Thanks scooters mommy.


Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 03:39:21 PM
I really wish Nancy Grace would ask yes or no questions instead of leading people into long rambling and confusing answers.  You can't get the right answers when you help them out.

Actually, sometimes it's ingenious. The more people talk, the more chance they have of slipping up or remembering something they "thought" they forgot.

I say keep her talking as much as ya can. Maybe she'll remember something relevant. Normally NG gets on my nerves bc nobody can ever finish a sentence, but this case is different. The more Billie talks, the more info is revealed...literally.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 03:40:49 PM
SNIPPED:

Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Thanks scooters mommy.


Janet

Thank you SM. So I guess Naomi found one and the other was found after they moved out.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 20, 2011, 03:41:10 PM
Hello!  Long time lurker - first time poster.  I just posted the explanation for Hailey's earring.  I hope and pray that this girl is found safe.

Pam


Thank you for the posting the explanation about Hailey's earrings, scooters mommy.  And welcome to Scared Monkeys ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on January 20, 2011, 03:41:31 PM
WELCOME SCOOTERS MOMMY  ::HelloKitty::, thankyou for the info


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 03:42:12 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

EWWWWW - Are you kidding me? So she was ALLOWED to wear gauges in her ears at 13 years of age? OMG!

For those not familiar with gauges or think it's harmless so let people do what they want with their bodies, let me just please pretty please say this... When somebody gauges their ears, they are stretching the holes in their piercing. The only way those holes close up is by plastic surgery. However, what most kids & adults do when they want these holes to close up is this: They SLICE the insides of the holes with a razor blade & stick the skin back together, most of the time holding it together with medical tape that you can buy from any pharmacy! 9 times out of 10 they get infected & that portion of their ear then needs to be severed off. It heals with an antibiotic.

Pardon me but wtf. I know, to each their own...but this is a 13 year old girl we're discussing. That's absolutely ludicrous.

Yes - special earrings! That is why it struck me as odd one of the earrings was found at Clint's house after he and Naomi moved out. Billie mentioned on NG that these (earring size) are as large as she would allow. Although it seems clear that Billie was somewhat lax in her parenting, there must have been some discussion about the earrings based on the mother's statements. I'm speculating, but if stretching the earlobes was cool and is the new thing to do, and if mom put up a bit of debate before allowing it, wouldn't hailey have noticed the earring was missing? Wouldn't she haver scoured the house and looked in a ll the places she had been to find it? Wouldn't Mom have noticed the day after Christmas, when they were all home together prior to hailey going missing. Just some food for thought.

One other thing, maybe the earring is a non-issue, but I believe when it comes to a missing person, especially a child, there simple are no non-issues....please don't throw nanners at me.....slinking away, back to lurking.

No need to slink away. Come back! You have an opinion just like everyone else.

I doubt if there was much debate about allowing the earrings. Billie said she bought them for her.

Agree! Samarie, dontcha dare slink away! Your opinion matters just as much as anyone elses! :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 03:42:59 PM
Hello!  Long time lurker - first time poster.  I just posted the explanation for Hailey's earring.  I hope and pray that this girl is found safe.

Pam

Welcome to Scared Monkeys, Pam! You're gonna love it here!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: scooters mommy on January 20, 2011, 03:44:13 PM
Thanks for the welcome - I have been a member here since Natalee first went missing - I have followed Natalee's case, as well as Caylee's, Haleigh's, Kyron's and so many others.  This is the first time I have ever had any info to share that the monkeys didn't already know about. 

Monkeys are the BEST!!! 

Pam


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 03:46:53 PM
Hello!  Long time lurker - first time poster.  I just posted the explanation for Hailey's earring.  I hope and pray that this girl is found safe.

Pam
WELCOME SCOOTERS MOMMY
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/2sgn054groupwelcome-1.gif)

That's a good enough explanation to me! And I pray she is found safe too.  ::MonkeyAngel::  But it sure isn't looking good.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Nana29 on January 20, 2011, 03:47:16 PM
WELCOME SCOOTERS MOMMY  ::HelloKitty::, thankyou for the info


O/T Babs, I left you a message in JSM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9314.msg1293094#msg1293094


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 20, 2011, 03:48:31 PM
I really wish Nancy Grace would ask yes or no questions instead of leading people into long rambling and confusing answers.  You can't get the right answers when you help them out.

Yeah, I dislike how she gives the people the answers so that they just go "Yeah - it was 10 p.m. when I saw her" because hey - sounds good to them, right?  I wouldn't mind that the people go on rambling answers - because I want them to trip themselves up in the snare of their lies.  I'd rather that than yes/no.  But don't feed them info, Nancy - it's not good interrogating.  Ask them "What time exactly did you see her, and what exactly was she doing, where - how did it happen that you saw her?" and let THEM fill in the blanks, right?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 03:51:15 PM
Thanks for the welcome - I have been a member here since Natalee first went missing - I have followed Natalee's case, as well as Caylee's, Haleigh's, Kyron's and so many others.  This is the first time I have ever had any info to share that the monkeys didn't already know about. 

Monkeys are the BEST!!! 

Pam
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-monkeys.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-monkeys.gif)(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-monkeys.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 03:51:17 PM
I know this was discussed several days ago but I can't help thinking about all the old neglected oil wells in that area.  Hundreds of abandoned wells dot the landscape, its been mentioned that Shawn had a cave he frequented.

Wouldn't it also be likely he had knowledge of many "holes" throughout from exploring when he was younger?  Anything from septic tanks, water wells and many drilling sites.  Just so many "Hiding Places" in plain sight out there in Big Country.....

I wonder if they could be mapped out? I know it's alot but maybe there's something online that has a documented record of them? Since they'd be sitting in the state being neglected, I'd imagine the state would follow them or keep a record of them all...wouldn't they? Oh please say they would...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 20, 2011, 03:53:35 PM
SNIPPED:

Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Does anyone else get a red-flag off of this relationship dynamic?  Hailey asks dad's gf to pick up her stuff for her - drops it, turns around, and says "put those up".  OR - dad's gf is insinuating that Haily was a little impolite and assuming?  I'm not sure which way this is, but I sense tension from the gf... and that's problematic for me.  NOT saying that she did it, but there's a monkey-wrench (pardon the pun) in the works with this for me.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 03:58:42 PM
I know this was discussed several days ago but I can't help thinking about all the old neglected oil wells in that area.  Hundreds of abandoned wells dot the landscape, its been mentioned that Shawn had a cave he frequented.

Wouldn't it also be likely he had knowledge of many "holes" throughout from exploring when he was younger?  Anything from septic tanks, water wells and many drilling sites.  Just so many "Hiding Places" in plain sight out there in Big Country.....

I wonder if they could be mapped out? I know it's alot but maybe there's something online that has a documented record of them? Since they'd be sitting in the state being neglected, I'd imagine the state would follow them or keep a record of them all...wouldn't they? Oh please say they would...

I wish LAKE ERIE PRINCESS was here. Her hubby probably knows. It would probably be covered by the Energy Department or possibly Mineral Management. Both have had their problems recently, so I'm not real confident anyone would be keeping up with this. But who knows.  :smt102


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 20, 2011, 03:58:58 PM
"I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt." (Billie).

This is also bothering me.  I don't like it when people say statements that can swing both ways.  Does she not want to have to learn a reality where her daughter has been killed and put in the dirt like trash, or is she subconsciously slipping up that she doesn't want them to find evidence?

Now personally, wrong or right, I don't feel that she really knows anything about her daughter's appearance.  IMHO, I think her heart knows that her boyfriend is completely capable of doing this, and likely did, and that she has been guarded in what she says because of that and because of her drug use inevitably coming into question.  She has another kid, she knows he will likely be taken and her job loss because of the drug use.  I think that's the guarded part we're seeing.  Not active involvement/coverup, but secondary to some pretty awful realizations that she wants to deny to herself.

That being said, we read every day how desperate women in love with monster-men put their men first and their family second, watching sexual assaults, abuse, murder, even helping cover things up.  So until we KNOW we really don't know....  And this little "dirt" statement, to me, is like a little sticker under my proverbial saddle blanket; it's going to bother me until we know for sure that it's not an issue.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 04:00:18 PM
SNIPPED:

Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Does anyone else get a red-flag off of this relationship dynamic?  Hailey asks dad's gf to pick up her stuff for her - drops it, turns around, and says "put those up".  OR - dad's gf is insinuating that Haily was a little impolite and assuming?  I'm not sure which way this is, but I sense tension from the gf... and that's problematic for me.  NOT saying that she did it, but there's a monkey-wrench (pardon the pun) in the works with this for me.

Wecome Scootersmon and thanks for the article!

Yes- I had a red flag, which is why I've been beating the earring thing to death...so much for lurking ::MonkeyTongue::

I also would have noticed that earring on the floor when moving out and would have picked it up, not only because the earrings were important to Hailey and she had asked Naomi to put them up, but because it would have triggered the Christmas memory and I would want to make sure to return it if and when she came home.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 04:00:21 PM
SNIPPED:

Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Does anyone else get a red-flag off of this relationship dynamic?  Hailey asks dad's gf to pick up her stuff for her - drops it, turns around, and says "put those up".  OR - dad's gf is insinuating that Haily was a little impolite and assuming?  I'm not sure which way this is, but I sense tension from the gf... and that's problematic for me.  NOT saying that she did it, but there's a monkey-wrench (pardon the pun) in the works with this for me.

Here's how I took it:

Hailey spent the night & dropped her earrings by the couch, so maybe she fell asleep on the couch...anyway, she went home but remembered she left her earrings there, so she asked Naomi to get them & put them aside for her. I didn;t see anything negative in it. Then again, my step-daughter is always leaving her things here. She'll remember when she gets home & calls me right away "Mom, can you get my necklace in the bathroom? It's right on the side of the tub"...etc. So I get her things & put them up for when she comes back. So maybe it's bc I'm speaking of my experience with my sd, maybe that's why I don't see the negative implication?

So far, Naomi seems like an ok gal...although it's been speculated that important info regarding income was hidden, but don;t know much more about her. One thing we did get from this, though, is her last name!

Naomi Stewart.

Friends, family, records?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 04:01:02 PM
SNIPPED:

Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Does anyone else get a red-flag off of this relationship dynamic?  Hailey asks dad's gf to pick up her stuff for her - drops it, turns around, and says "put those up".  OR - dad's gf is insinuating that Haily was a little impolite and assuming?  I'm not sure which way this is, but I sense tension from the gf... and that's problematic for me.  NOT saying that she did it, but there's a monkey-wrench (pardon the pun) in the works with this for me.

I haven't really had a red flag about the girl friend. Hailey probably wanted her to put them in a safe place as she had no jewelry box there with her. Did the girlfriend say she was a little impolite and assuming?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 04:03:12 PM
"I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt." (Billie).

This is also bothering me.  I don't like it when people say statements that can swing both ways.  Does she not want to have to learn a reality where her daughter has been killed and put in the dirt like trash, or is she subconsciously slipping up that she doesn't want them to find evidence?

Now personally, wrong or right, I don't feel that she really knows anything about her daughter's appearance.  IMHO, I think her heart knows that her boyfriend is completely capable of doing this, and likely did, and that she has been guarded in what she says because of that and because of her drug use inevitably coming into question.  She has another kid, she knows he will likely be taken and her job loss because of the drug use.  I think that's the guarded part we're seeing.  Not active involvement/coverup, but secondary to some pretty awful realizations that she wants to deny to herself.

That being said, we read every day how desperate women in love with monster-men put their men first and their family second, watching sexual assaults, abuse, murder, even helping cover things up.  So until we KNOW we really don't know....  And this little "dirt" statement, to me, is like a little sticker under my proverbial saddle blanket; it's going to bother me until we know for sure that it's not an issue.

I agree! It's not like she left it as "out there"...She stated "out there in the dirt". What's that all about? It there alot of dirt there or something? What's the land like? I thought I saw alot of trees & forestry, some water & a river. Is she referring to the landfill? Her "dirt" statement rubs me the wrong way.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 20, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
Oh ok, in the context of her saying it after the fact.... that makes a lot more sense.  Red flag has been taken down.  lol!!

And welcome to the newest monkeys and the now-out-of-lurking-monkeys!   ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 04:06:20 PM
Thoughts regarding the sleeping arrangement?

Janet

++++++

NANCY GRACE
911 Calls From Missing Hailey`s Mother About Boyfriend Adkins
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What about it, Billie Dunn? Any change at all in her behavior that you noticed?

BILLIE DUNN: No. Like I said, in the beginning, three years ago, she was very upset her dad and I broke up, but I don`t think Hailey feared Sean in the least. And she wouldn`t have been afraid to come to me. She knows that she was number one, her and David are number one. And I don`t think she would have been afraid to come to me.

And she didn`t sleep in her room until about a week ago. She slept in the living room on the couch. I think Clint`s mom is just upset. She wants someone to blame also, and that`s understandable. But I really believe Hailey would have come to me or her father. And I don`t think she was afraid of Sean.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 20, 2011, 04:06:38 PM
"I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt." (Billie).

This is also bothering me.  I don't like it when people say statements that can swing both ways.  Does she not want to have to learn a reality where her daughter has been killed and put in the dirt like trash, or is she subconsciously slipping up that she doesn't want them to find evidence?

Now personally, wrong or right, I don't feel that she really knows anything about her daughter's appearance.  IMHO, I think her heart knows that her boyfriend is completely capable of doing this, and likely did, and that she has been guarded in what she says because of that and because of her drug use inevitably coming into question.  She has another kid, she knows he will likely be taken and her job loss because of the drug use.  I think that's the guarded part we're seeing.  Not active involvement/coverup, but secondary to some pretty awful realizations that she wants to deny to herself.

That being said, we read every day how desperate women in love with monster-men put their men first and their family second, watching sexual assaults, abuse, murder, even helping cover things up.  So until we KNOW we really don't know....  And this little "dirt" statement, to me, is like a little sticker under my proverbial saddle blanket; it's going to bother me until we know for sure that it's not an issue.

I agree! It's not like she left it as "out there"...She stated "out there in the dirt". What's that all about? It there alot of dirt there or something? What's the land like? I thought I saw alot of trees & forestry, some water & a river. Is she referring to the landfill? Her "dirt" statement rubs me the wrong way.

I took it as referring to the landfills.  I will admit, seeing the pictures that the media chose to show of the previous landfill search, I was surprised at how there seemed to be a lot of dirt and lesser amounts of trash.  SHe apparently was taken to the landfill, Billie was, for some reason.  I wouldn't be surprised if subconsciously at least it made a big impression on her; it did me, and I sure don't have a daughter involved.  That being said, I still feel a little twitchy about the way that she said it... like I want to ask her "what exactly do you mean?" and see what she comes up with and how she would react.

I'm really on the fence about this.  I want to think it's just a natural sort of repulsed reaction to the thought of her daughter being in the dirt.  On the other hand, maybe I've been reading too much seamus and eyesforlies.  lol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 04:07:26 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::   WELCOME  SCOOTERS MOMMY    ::MonkeyDance::


 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: LynneinMd. on January 20, 2011, 04:07:42 PM
I really wish Nancy Grace would ask yes or no questions instead of leading people into long rambling and confusing answers.  You can't get the right answers when you help them out.

Actually, sometimes it's ingenious. The more people talk, the more chance they have of slipping up or remembering something they "thought" they forgot.

I say keep her talking as much as ya can. Maybe she'll remember something relevant. Normally NG gets on my nerves bc nobody can ever finish a sentence, but this case is different. The more Billie talks, the more info is revealed...literally.


Maybe so, but the discussion about whether CPS removed DD from the home became confusing.  They had sources that said yes they did remove him and Billie insisted this wasn't true, SHE felt he would be safer at her brothers.  Perhaps it was her perspective about why he was at the brothers.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Titch on January 20, 2011, 04:08:27 PM
have to run. bbl monkeys! klaas, haven't forgotten about that info but i can;t verify anything yet. has anybody else been able to do that? again, bbl. picking son up from winter track & taking other 2 to wrestling practice. jeesh, story of my life.

matter of fact, gonna have some wine with my shrimp alfredo! bbs.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 04:09:57 PM
UPDATE: Search Ends at Colorado City Landfill

Searchers returned to the Colorado City landfill Thursday in their ongoing investigation into the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
The search included cadaver dogs. Searchers arrived at around 1:30 p.m. and left before 3 p.m. It's unclear what they discovered, if anything.

Investigators combed through trash at Allied Waste Services in Abilene last Friday and law enforcement deemed the search "unsuccessful."

Kampfer says while dogs got two "hits" during that search, nothing has been confirmed as evidence in the case.

Trash from Colorado City is transferred to Abilene, Odessa, or Snyder, Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com.

Texas DPS Senior Trooper Sparky Dean says the Colorado City landfill has previously been searched.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333406


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 04:15:03 PM
Unless it is revealed to the contrary ... I support Billie's clarification of the issue.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Why was your son, David, taken into state custody?

BILLIE DUNN: He wasn`t taken into state custody. From my understanding, it`s normal for CPS to come in and interview you, which they did. I placed David at my brother`s house. That`s best for him. I have people driving by, hollering awful things. But there was no courts involved. He`s not in state custody. He`s at my brother`s house and here every day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 04:17:11 PM
UPDATE: Search Ends at Colorado City Landfill

Searchers returned to the Colorado City landfill Thursday in their ongoing investigation into the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
The search included cadaver dogs. Searchers arrived at around 1:30 p.m. and left before 3 p.m. It's unclear what they discovered, if anything.

Investigators combed through trash at Allied Waste Services in Abilene last Friday and law enforcement deemed the search "unsuccessful."

Kampfer says while dogs got two "hits" during that search, nothing has been confirmed as evidence in the case.

Trash from Colorado City is transferred to Abilene, Odessa, or Snyder, Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com.

Texas DPS Senior Trooper Sparky Dean says the Colorado City landfill has previously been searched.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333406

What a media roller coaster??

Maybe the route Shawn took from Colorado City to Big Spring on the morning of December 27th will become a focus of the search for this little girl.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 04:24:58 PM
"I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt." (Billie).

This is also bothering me.  I don't like it when people say statements that can swing both ways.  Does she not want to have to learn a reality where her daughter has been killed and put in the dirt like trash, or is she subconsciously slipping up that she doesn't want them to find evidence?

Now personally, wrong or right, I don't feel that she really knows anything about her daughter's appearance.  IMHO, I think her heart knows that her boyfriend is completely capable of doing this, and likely did, and that she has been guarded in what she says because of that and because of her drug use inevitably coming into question.  She has another kid, she knows he will likely be taken and her job loss because of the drug use.  I think that's the guarded part we're seeing.  Not active involvement/coverup, but secondary to some pretty awful realizations that she wants to deny to herself.

That being said, we read every day how desperate women in love with monster-men put their men first and their family second, watching sexual assaults, abuse, murder, even helping cover things up.  So until we KNOW we really don't know....  And this little "dirt" statement, to me, is like a little sticker under my proverbial saddle blanket; it's going to bother me until we know for sure that it's not an issue.

I agree! It's not like she left it as "out there"...She stated "out there in the dirt". What's that all about? It there alot of dirt there or something? What's the land like? I thought I saw alot of trees & forestry, some water & a river. Is she referring to the landfill? Her "dirt" statement rubs me the wrong way.

I Googled Colorado City and got this image. I have some personal pictures of the area, but they would have to be scanned and they are packed in a box in the garage.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/up-TMVT0L81CGR28U8Q.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 20, 2011, 04:30:29 PM
Texas Railroad Commision regulates oil wells and pipelines, click on the below link, hit accept and it will take you to a map. I don't know how to use it because I am not that bright, but someone can probably figure it out. I can only find pipelines, but it did show up the first time I tried well sites.

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/

 ::MonkeyBike:: St*pid JSM can't figure out a map.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 04:35:06 PM
What is Billie Dunn's address?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 20, 2011, 04:38:31 PM
What is Billie Dunn's address?

1804 Chestnut St.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 20, 2011, 04:42:46 PM
Thoughts regarding the sleeping arrangement?

Janet

++++++

NANCY GRACE
911 Calls From Missing Hailey`s Mother About Boyfriend Adkins
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What about it, Billie Dunn? Any change at all in her behavior that you noticed?

BILLIE DUNN: No. Like I said, in the beginning, three years ago, she was very upset her dad and I broke up, but I don`t think Hailey feared Sean in the least. And she wouldn`t have been afraid to come to me. She knows that she was number one, her and David are number one. And I don`t think she would have been afraid to come to me.

And she didn`t sleep in her room until about a week ago. She slept in the living room on the couch. I think Clint`s mom is just upset. She wants someone to blame also, and that`s understandable. But I really believe Hailey would have come to me or her father. And I don`t think she was afraid of Sean.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


At 13 years old, I wanted my privacy - to be able to sit in my room and giggle on the phone with my girlfriends about whatever, to listen to my music, etc.  The only reason I would have slept in the den would be to avoid something unpleasant in my room.  What was she avoiding?  Was her bedroom next to her mother's - did she hear mom and boyfriend at night?  Was it more safe in the den, less likely that boyfriend could stare at her without being noticed?  Did something happen in her bedroom to make it repulsive to her?

When I was older, I often slept in the den of my parents' house because I came in late and it was less likely to wake my parents up.  Also, I wanted out of the house (because it was a bad place at the time).  I doubt that Hailey was out late... so was something going on in the house where she didn't want to be there?  Sounds like it.

Oh, and as an aside, I *highly* doubt that knowing how 'into' her boyfriend mommy was that Hailey would have at all felt she could talk to her mom about boyfriend and whatever he was doing.  I can well imagine that the discussion came up before and that mom blew it off, possibly even got defensively mad at Hailey, thus closing discussions in the future.  Hypothetically, if SA *had* done something physically to Hailey, there's no way she'd tell her mom.  I sure wouldn't have, and I had a lot better relationship with my mom than apparently Hailey did - because SA was in the way.  I'm sure if something happened, and she tried to tell mom, she'd KNOW that mom would bring it up with SA and that SA would do his charm bit on mom, mom would believe SA, and that then Hailey would really be in danger!

Is that what happened?  Did Hailey threaten to tell someone? Did that push SA over the edge?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 04:47:09 PM
What is Billie Dunn's address?

1804 Chestnut St.

Thank you - first pic is the Dunn house at 1804 Chestnut.  Notice the close proximity to the cemetery.  Also, if you look north near Interstate 20 you will see alot of open land as depicted in the 2nd pic:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/1804Chestnut.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/Interstate20ColoradoCity.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 04:49:16 PM
"I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt." (Billie).

This is also bothering me.  I don't like it when people say statements that can swing both ways.  Does she not want to have to learn a reality where her daughter has been killed and put in the dirt like trash, or is she subconsciously slipping up that she doesn't want them to find evidence?

Now personally, wrong or right, I don't feel that she really knows anything about her daughter's appearance.  IMHO, I think her heart knows that her boyfriend is completely capable of doing this, and likely did, and that she has been guarded in what she says because of that and because of her drug use inevitably coming into question.  She has another kid, she knows he will likely be taken and her job loss because of the drug use.  I think that's the guarded part we're seeing.  Not active involvement/coverup, but secondary to some pretty awful realizations that she wants to deny to herself.

That being said, we read every day how desperate women in love with monster-men put their men first and their family second, watching sexual assaults, abuse, murder, even helping cover things up.  So until we KNOW we really don't know....  And this little "dirt" statement, to me, is like a little sticker under my proverbial saddle blanket; it's going to bother me until we know for sure that it's not an issue.

The same could be said for Clint's words.  Both Clint and Billie cling to hope that Hailey is alive.  The alternative is too difficult to comprehend.  I would feel the same.

Both Clint and Billie reveal their appreciation for search effort but ... obviously a deceased Haily is not the outcome they are praying for.
 
Janet

++++++

Clint Dunn

Hailey's Older Brother Is Moved From Dunn Home In Colorado City
POSTED: 4:49 pm CST January 19, 2011
UPDATED: 8:15 am CST January 20, 2011


Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, joined the group of about 55 searchers, to offer up his support.

"I don't want to join in the search – I can't," he said. "I don't want to. It's just amazing seeing these people the community pull together like this."

He said he can't search because he's not willing to face what could be found in the fields.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html


Billie Dunn

RAW: Hailey's Mom Thinks Someone Will Find Her Daughter
Thursday, January 20 2011


Dunn said she also appreciates everyone who is volunteering their time to search. However, she's happy they haven't found anything.

"I'm glad they're looking, but each day I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt. That's not the way that I want them to find her," added Dunn.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333416







Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 04:52:37 PM
Texas Railroad Commision regulates oil wells and pipelines, click on the below link, hit accept and it will take you to a map. I don't know how to use it because I am not that bright, but someone can probably figure it out. I can only find pipelines, but it did show up the first time I tried well sites.

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/

 ::MonkeyBike:: St*pid JSM can't figure out a map.

You used that "S" word again!  :smt075

I got into the site, but I can't find the legend for wells. I can't tell what is active and what is capped. Maybe when my engineer son gets home he can help me. Mitchell and Howard counties both have many, many wells.

O/T My son has been in the car for an hour and forty five minutes making a thirty minute trip from college. He isn't home yet.  We have shoveled the walk to the garage 4 times today, and it is covered again.(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/ShovelSmiley.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 04:56:51 PM
What is Billie Dunn's address?

1804 Chestnut St.

Thank you - first pic is the Dunn house at 1804 Chestnut.  Notice the close proximity to the cemetery.  Also, if you look north near Interstate 20 you will see alot of open land as depicted in the 2nd pic:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/1804Chestnut.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/Interstate20ColoradoCity.jpg)

In other words ... it would be an impossibility for a search effort to focus on the route that Shawn took from Colorado City to Big Spring on the morning of December 27th when the vastness of the area is considered.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 20, 2011, 04:57:39 PM
Texas Railroad Commision regulates oil wells and pipelines, click on the below link, hit accept and it will take you to a map. I don't know how to use it because I am not that bright, but someone can probably figure it out. I can only find pipelines, but it did show up the first time I tried well sites.

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/

 ::MonkeyBike:: St*pid JSM can't figure out a map.

You used that "S" word again!  :smt075

I got into the site, but I can't find the legend for wells. I can't tell what is active and what is capped. Maybe when my engineer son gets home he can help me. Mitchell and Howard counties both have many, many wells.

O/T My son has been in the car for an hour and forty five minutes making a thirty minute trip from college. He isn't home yet.  We have shoveled the walk to the garage 4 times today, and it is covered again.(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/ShovelSmiley.gif)
ooops, guess I did use that word. I think this is the legend for the map...

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/help/legend.html

Sorry about the lousy drive home for your son.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 05:03:08 PM
Thoughts regarding the sleeping arrangement?

Janet

++++++

NANCY GRACE
911 Calls From Missing Hailey`s Mother About Boyfriend Adkins
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What about it, Billie Dunn? Any change at all in her behavior that you noticed?

BILLIE DUNN: No. Like I said, in the beginning, three years ago, she was very upset her dad and I broke up, but I don`t think Hailey feared Sean in the least. And she wouldn`t have been afraid to come to me. She knows that she was number one, her and David are number one. And I don`t think she would have been afraid to come to me.

And she didn`t sleep in her room until about a week ago. She slept in the living room on the couch. I think Clint`s mom is just upset. She wants someone to blame also, and that`s understandable. But I really believe Hailey would have come to me or her father. And I don`t think she was afraid of Sean.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


At 13 years old, I wanted my privacy - to be able to sit in my room and giggle on the phone with my girlfriends about whatever, to listen to my music, etc.  The only reason I would have slept in the den would be to avoid something unpleasant in my room.  What was she avoiding?  Was her bedroom next to her mother's - did she hear mom and boyfriend at night?  Was it more safe in the den, less likely that boyfriend could stare at her without being noticed?  Did something happen in her bedroom to make it repulsive to her?

When I was older, I often slept in the den of my parents' house because I came in late and it was less likely to wake my parents up.  Also, I wanted out of the house (because it was a bad place at the time).  I doubt that Hailey was out late... so was something going on in the house where she didn't want to be there?  Sounds like it.

Oh, and as an aside, I *highly* doubt that knowing how 'into' her boyfriend mommy was that Hailey would have at all felt she could talk to her mom about boyfriend and whatever he was doing.  I can well imagine that the discussion came up before and that mom blew it off, possibly even got defensively mad at Hailey, thus closing discussions in the future.  Hypothetically, if SA *had* done something physically to Hailey, there's no way she'd tell her mom.  I sure wouldn't have, and I had a lot better relationship with my mom than apparently Hailey did - because SA was in the way.  I'm sure if something happened, and she tried to tell mom, she'd KNOW that mom would bring it up with SA and that SA would do his charm bit on mom, mom would believe SA, and that then Hailey would really be in danger!

Is that what happened?  Did Hailey threaten to tell someone? Did that push SA over the edge?

BINGO!!

NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 05:08:13 PM
http://www.snyderdailynews.com/news/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/BilleDunnhugsSearchers.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 05:08:14 PM
NANCY GRACE
Hailey`s Grandmother Suspects Mother`s Boyfriend
Aired January 13, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


threatened to tell -- what do you base that on?

JONES: Because Hailey had told me (INAUDIBLE) him been living there in the past that he would walk around at nighttime, and the hall light would be on, and she could see his shadow at her door, at the foot of the door. She could see his legs at the foot of the door, just at her door, just standing there. And it scared her. And I don`t know, things just don`t add up that Monday. Why would he leave his job? He didn`t quit, he just left his job. ....

GRACE: What specifically would she say, Ms. Jones?

JONES: That she was afraid of him walking around at night. She said he -- she was just afraid of him. At this time, she was only, like, 11

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/13/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 05:10:40 PM
http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Landfill-search-yields-clues-in-missing-teen-case-963776.php

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/DunnHome.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 05:15:13 PM
Texas Railroad Commision regulates oil wells and pipelines, click on the below link, hit accept and it will take you to a map. I don't know how to use it because I am not that bright, but someone can probably figure it out. I can only find pipelines, but it did show up the first time I tried well sites.

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/

 ::MonkeyBike:: St*pid JSM can't figure out a map.

You used that "S" word again!  :smt075

I got into the site, but I can't find the legend for wells. I can't tell what is active and what is capped. Maybe when my engineer son gets home he can help me. Mitchell and Howard counties both have many, many wells.

O/T My son has been in the car for an hour and forty five minutes making a thirty minute trip from college. He isn't home yet.  We have shoveled the walk to the garage 4 times today, and it is covered again.(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/ShovelSmiley.gif)
ooops, guess I did use that word. I think this is the legend for the map...

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/help/legend.html

Sorry about the lousy drive home for your son.

Thanks. Why the heck couldn't I find it?   ::MonkeyConfused::

Anyhow he just made it home.  ::MonkeyAngel::  After he quits shaking and eats his chili I'll get him to take a look at it with me.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 05:18:17 PM

In other words ... it would be an impossibility for a search effort to focus on the route that Shawn took from Colorado City to Big Spring on the morning of December 27th when the vastness of the area is considered.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet




It is a long, long way from one place to another from Abilene to the New Mexico state line and beyond. And there is a lot of "dirt."


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 20, 2011, 05:21:44 PM
Texas Railroad Commision regulates oil wells and pipelines, click on the below link, hit accept and it will take you to a map. I don't know how to use it because I am not that bright, but someone can probably figure it out. I can only find pipelines, but it did show up the first time I tried well sites.

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/

 ::MonkeyBike:: St*pid JSM can't figure out a map.

You used that "S" word again!  :smt075

I got into the site, but I can't find the legend for wells. I can't tell what is active and what is capped. Maybe when my engineer son gets home he can help me. Mitchell and Howard counties both have many, many wells.

O/T My son has been in the car for an hour and forty five minutes making a thirty minute trip from college. He isn't home yet.  We have shoveled the walk to the garage 4 times today, and it is covered again.(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/ShovelSmiley.gif)
ooops, guess I did use that word. I think this is the legend for the map...

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/help/legend.html

Sorry about the lousy drive home for your son.

Thanks. Why the heck couldn't I find it?   ::MonkeyConfused::

Anyhow he just made it home.  ::MonkeyAngel::  After he quits shaking and eats his chili I'll get him to take a look at it with me.
Don't ask me how I found it, glad he made it home safely.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 05:23:36 PM
Authories now searching Snyder landfill for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn

COLORADO CITY – A waste facility in Snyder was the second landfill law enforcement searched to find evidence into the disappearance of Hailey Dunn who has been missing for over three weeks.

Cadaver dogs from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice were used at the Colorado City landfill and are currently searching at the Snyder Solid Waste Facility.

“We don’t know if there have been any hits,” said Pete Kampfer, city manager and spokesman for the task force investigating the disappearance of 13-year-old teen.

Investigators continued to search in Scurry County today.

Kampfer admitted there were hits at the Allied Waste Services during a search last Thursday and Friday but said it is unknown whether the hits were related to the Dunn case.

Volunteers continue searched in Scurry County as well, said Brad Dennis, director of KlaasKids Foundation, which is in Colorado City to organize volunteer search efforts.

“We also searched a lot of areas around the Colorado River,” Dennis said.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/20/authories-now-searching-snyder-landfill-missing-co/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 05:24:20 PM
Unless it is revealed to the contrary ... I support Billie's clarification of the issue.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Why was your son, David, taken into state custody?

BILLIE DUNN: He wasn`t taken into state custody. From my understanding, it`s normal for CPS to come in and interview you, which they did. I placed David at my brother`s house. That`s best for him. I have people driving by, hollering awful things. But there was no courts involved. He`s not in state custody. He`s at my brother`s house and here every day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


That is so odd to me, IF she placed him there so he would be protected from ppl yelling awful things when driving by, wth would she have him back there EVERY DAY?? Do they only yell awful things at night, her reasoning skills are severly lacking and I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse. I would totally applaud her for doing what was best for David and getting him out of the house, by I am not sure 1) I believe her story and 2) if I did believe it, the last comment I bolded actually invalidates the reason she sent him to be with her brother ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 05:27:51 PM
RAW VIDEO: Search Ends at Colorado City Landfill  (with video)

Searchers returned to the Colorado City landfill Thursday in their ongoing investigation into the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn.
The search included cadaver dogs. Searchers arrived at around 1:30 p.m. and left before 3 p.m. It's unclear what they discovered, if anything.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer told KTAB's Tiffany Tatro it's not usually customary to do a second search of this nature. However, Kampfer said investigators deemed it appropriate.

Kampfer said the Texas Department of Criminal Justice brought in different dogs from the ones used during their first visit of the landfill.

When asked whether investigators returned to the landfill because of a lead, Kampfer said he could not comment. He instead repeated that investigators found it "appropriate."

Law enforcement combed through trash at Allied Waste Services in Abilene last Friday and law enforcement deemed the search "unsuccessful."

Kampfer says while dogs got two "hits" during that search, nothing has been confirmed as evidence in the case.

Trash from Colorado City is transferred to Abilene, Odessa, or Snyder, Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333406


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 05:36:03 PM
Authories now searching Snyder landfill for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/20/authories-now-searching-snyder-landfill-missing-co/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: BabsKats on January 20, 2011, 05:36:03 PM
Unless it is revealed to the contrary ... I support Billie's clarification of the issue.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Why was your son, David, taken into state custody?

BILLIE DUNN: He wasn`t taken into state custody. From my understanding, it`s normal for CPS to come in and interview you, which they did. I placed David at my brother`s house. That`s best for him. I have people driving by, hollering awful things. But there was no courts involved. He`s not in state custody. He`s at my brother`s house and here every day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


That is so odd to me, IF she placed him there so he would be protected from ppl yelling awful things when driving by, wth would she have him back there EVERY DAY?? Do they only yell awful things at night, her reasoning skills are severly lacking and I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse. I would totally applaud her for doing what was best for David and getting him out of the house, by I am not sure 1) I believe her story and 2) if I did believe it, the last comment I bolded actually invalidates the reason she sent him to be with her brother ::MonkeyTongue::
Probably still in school there in C.C., comes to moms to get ride back to uncles?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 05:40:42 PM
Unless it is revealed to the contrary ... I support Billie's clarification of the issue.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Why was your son, David, taken into state custody?

BILLIE DUNN: He wasn`t taken into state custody. From my understanding, it`s normal for CPS to come in and interview you, which they did. I placed David at my brother`s house. That`s best for him. I have people driving by, hollering awful things. But there was no courts involved. He`s not in state custody. He`s at my brother`s house and here every day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


That is so odd to me, IF she placed him there so he would be protected from ppl yelling awful things when driving by, wth would she have him back there EVERY DAY?? Do they only yell awful things at night, her reasoning skills are severly lacking and I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse. I would totally applaud her for doing what was best for David and getting him out of the house, by I am not sure 1) I believe her story and 2) if I did believe it, the last comment I bolded actually invalidates the reason she sent him to be with her brother ::MonkeyTongue::

Could it be that this sixteen old young man has been offered a reprieve from the craziness if need be?  In other words ... it is up to him.  I don't know.  The issue was whether of not David had been placed in state custody.  Billie claims the courts were never involved in the decision to provide David with a sanctuary at her brother's home.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 05:42:47 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It is my belief that the earrings is a non-issue.  It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the the morning of December 27th.  It is also my belief that the search for Hailey's remains should be focused between Colorado City and Big Spring ... the route taken by Shawn to his mother's home.

Then again ... the speculating of this wannabe detective could be wrong.

Janet


Janet,

That's why I keep asking if LE has searched Billie's house with cadaver dogs; if Hailey was deceased in her bed, the cadaver dogs would hit on that immediately.

Although....while writing this post, I remember that LE took Hailey's sheet....wonder if they've analyzed that sheet yet?  There could be evidence of a deceased Hailey on the sheet....or...if LE has had a cadaver dog sniff the sheet?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 05:44:26 PM
Sanmarie in reply to one of your previous questions.


Billie has stated that hailey didn't like Shawn because she thought he stood in the way of her parents reconciling. If that's true, wouldn't Hailey have had some issues with her father's girlfriend and new baby being in the way as well?

I think this is bs. HD didn't like SA because she was afraid of him...MOO

I believe Billie said words to the effect that "at the beginning" Hailey thought Shawn stood in the way of her parents reconciling. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 05:49:48 PM

In other words ... it would be an impossibility for a search effort to focus on the route that Shawn took from Colorado City to Big Spring on the morning of December 27th when the vastness of the area is considered.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet




It is a long, long way from one place to another from Abilene to the New Mexico state line and beyond. And there is a lot of "dirt."

You are right.

The image that Klaas posted made me appreciate the vastness of the route Shawn drove on the morning of December 27th.

Maybe ... just maybe ... Shawn will grow a conscience and reveal the truth.  Maybe a plea deal and not a conscience will have nothing to do with the revealing of the truth.

One way or another I hope that there will be closure for Billie and Clint and ... justice for Hailey.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 06:02:52 PM
Why is it every time we hear something official, Billie rebuts it and has her own version?  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 06:04:54 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It is my belief that the earrings is a non-issue.  It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the the morning of December 27th.  It is also my belief that the search for Hailey's remains should be focused between Colorado City and Big Spring ... the route taken by Shawn to his mother's home.

Then again ... the speculating of this wannabe detective could be wrong.

Janet


Janet,

That's why I keep asking if LE has searched Billie's house with cadaver dogs; if Hailey was deceased in her bed, the cadaver dogs would hit on that immediately.

Although....while writing this post, I remember that LE took Hailey's sheet....wonder if they've analyzed that sheet yet?  There could be evidence of a deceased Hailey on the sheet....or...if LE has had a cadaver dog sniff the sheet?

No idea.

I would not be surprised if the sheet that had been on the bed that night was the same sheet that was confiscated.  Think about it.  What was Shawn doing in that hour between 3:00PM and 4:00PM on the afternoon of December 27th?  Why did he lock the door?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 06:11:11 PM
Unless it is revealed to the contrary ... I support Billie's clarification of the issue.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Why was your son, David, taken into state custody?

BILLIE DUNN: He wasn`t taken into state custody. From my understanding, it`s normal for CPS to come in and interview you, which they did. I placed David at my brother`s house. That`s best for him. I have people driving by, hollering awful things. But there was no courts involved. He`s not in state custody. He`s at my brother`s house and here every day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


That is so odd to me, IF she placed him there so he would be protected from ppl yelling awful things when driving by, wth would she have him back there EVERY DAY?? Do they only yell awful things at night, her reasoning skills are severly lacking and I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse. I would totally applaud her for doing what was best for David and getting him out of the house, by I am not sure 1) I believe her story and 2) if I did believe it, the last comment I bolded actually invalidates the reason she sent him to be with her brother ::MonkeyTongue::

Could it be that this sixteen old young man has been offered a reprieve from the craziness if need be?  In other words ... it is up to him.  I don't know.  The issue was whether of not David had been placed in state custody.  Billie claims the courts were never involved in the decision to provide David with a sanctuary at her brother's home.

Janet


I would hope so, I just thought if she sent him there as she stated it kind of defeated the purpose.....poor kid:( He must be having a rough time.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 06:13:42 PM
Why is it every time we hear something official, Billie rebuts it and has her own version?  ::piggy::

Official?

Other than the "official" statement in the affidavits that contradicts Billie words in the 911 calls ... what has she refuted.

I am serious.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 06:14:51 PM
Unless it is revealed to the contrary ... I support Billie's clarification of the issue.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Why was your son, David, taken into state custody?

BILLIE DUNN: He wasn`t taken into state custody. From my understanding, it`s normal for CPS to come in and interview you, which they did. I placed David at my brother`s house. That`s best for him. I have people driving by, hollering awful things. But there was no courts involved. He`s not in state custody. He`s at my brother`s house and here every day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


That is so odd to me, IF she placed him there so he would be protected from ppl yelling awful things when driving by, wth would she have him back there EVERY DAY?? Do they only yell awful things at night, her reasoning skills are severly lacking and I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse. I would totally applaud her for doing what was best for David and getting him out of the house, by I am not sure 1) I believe her story and 2) if I did believe it, the last comment I bolded actually invalidates the reason she sent him to be with her brother ::MonkeyTongue::

Could it be that this sixteen old young man has been offered a reprieve from the craziness if need be?  In other words ... it is up to him.  I don't know.  The issue was whether of not David had been placed in state custody.  Billie claims the courts were never involved in the decision to provide David with a sanctuary at her brother's home.

Janet


I would hope so, I just thought if she sent him there as she stated it kind of defeated the purpose.....poor kid:( He must be having a rough time.

I agree.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 06:21:02 PM
Found it!

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It is my belief that the earrings is a non-issue.  It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the the morning of December 27th.  It is also my belief that the search for Hailey's remains should be focused between Colorado City and Big Spring ... the route taken by Shawn to his mother's home.

Then again ... the speculating of this wannabe detective could be wrong.

Janet


Janet,

That's why I keep asking if LE has searched Billie's house with cadaver dogs; if Hailey was deceased in her bed, the cadaver dogs would hit on that immediately.

Although....while writing this post, I remember that LE took Hailey's sheet....wonder if they've analyzed that sheet yet?  There could be evidence of a deceased Hailey on the sheet....or...if LE has had a cadaver dog sniff the sheet?

No idea.

I would not be surprised if the sheet that had been on the bed that night was the same sheet that was confiscated.  Think about it.  What was Shawn doing in that hour between 3:00PM and 4:00PM on the afternoon of December 27th?  Why did he lock the door?

Janet


Shawn had time in his "clean up time" behind locked doors to get rid of that sheet and put on another one. Either that, or he could have washed it several times, a la Spindy.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
Why is it every time we hear something official, Billie rebuts it and has her own version?  ::piggy::

Official?

Other than the "official" statement in the affidavits that contradicts Billie words in the 911 calls ... what has she refuted.

I am serious.

Janet

I am seriously making a list. Hang on.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/putersmile1.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 06:45:29 PM
Why is it every time we hear something official, Billie rebuts it and has her own version?  ::piggy::

Official?

Other than the "official" statement in the affidavits that contradicts Billie words in the 911 calls ... what has she refuted.

I am serious.

Janet

1. She said the police said Shawn fail his LD test before she took her's. The police said they didn't.

2. The official version is David was removed by child Protection Services. Billie said he wasn't.

3. Billie said Shawn didn't threaten Hailey. Police and Shawn both say that he did.

4. Affidavit says Billie and Shawn bought illegal drugs after going to ATM. Billie says they went to the "north side" to visit her
    mother.

5. Billie said on Nancy Grace on Jan 3 that Shawn came home from work on the day Hailey went missing.  But she knew before that       
    he had a "fight" at work and left early.  She only admitted she knew when it the next night when Nancy asked her about it.

Just for starters.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 20, 2011, 06:54:32 PM
I think that alot of the things, and no, I don't have a list that Billie says are almost becasue she can't fathom what has transpired. She loves this Shawn person, can't see beyond that that he is the Prime and only named POI. Some of the stuff she says , she is making excuses for him and downright telling lies. Frankly, she wants him back and these sightings, like of Hailey going to the Dollar Store on Monday while the tape from the Dollar Store shows Sunday, why would she be promoting this ? She is not Nancy Drew, LE isn't involving her in the investigation and she should just let them do the sleuthing along with the blogs.
( I am referring to Cartfly and her son ). I don't know what her problem is, she clearly has one, letting him move in after threats to kill HER ? Did she think it was going to be a happy ever after ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 07:08:04 PM
6. Police say there was a New Years Eve party with them having drinks with "friends." Billie said it was just her family and only Shawn had a beer.

7. When Nancy asked if they watched the ball drop at midnight on New Years, Billie said they were watch the news. ( That wasn't an official one, I just threw it in.)

8. Police said they found boxes of murder stories she printed at work and Billie said it was a hobby and the movies they watched were   "comedies."

9.  Billie stated Shawn was 26, when she knows full well he is 25. Dob is in the Affidavits.

10. Billie says she doesn't take drugs but spent $140 for drugs the night Hailey went missing.


That is off the top of my head while I am cleaning the kitchen. Anyone else can join in if they want to. It just seems everything that comes out about the case, Billie has an alternate answer. I guess the whole police department, Texas Rangers, FBI, Mitchell County Sheriff's department and other people that know her are just all plotting against her and she is a victim. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 20, 2011, 07:25:33 PM
Very good Miss Fanny.
..
Billie did say CPS did visit her. Then he was sent to her brother's.
Maybe they told her it wasn't a good idea for him to stay there and mentioned what they might do / could do / were thinking of doing. Then she got him out of there. At least he is with family, hope her brother is a good person. 
From what I read over at WS, he was given a hard time at school after the affadavits came out. He had nothing to do with this and yet he is being victimized also. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 07:40:02 PM
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/Thursday_January20th_2011_7_19_19pm.jpg)


http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/

There are many oil wells both active and capped in Mitchell County. There are also dry holes that would be capped. I believe if you had a big wrench you could remove the cap off a pipe about six inches in diameter. Sometimes these pipes go thousands of feet into the ground. LAKE ERIE PRINCESS may be able to give us more details from her husband.

Legend for map

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/help/legend.html


I did not post the map for Howard County where Big Spring is located.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 07:48:01 PM
Very good Miss Fanny.
..
Billie did say CPS did visit her. Then he was sent to her brother's.
Maybe they told her it wasn't a good idea for him to stay there and mentioned what they might do / could do / were thinking of doing. Then she got him out of there. At least he is with family, hope her brother is a good person. 
From what I read over at WS, he was given a hard time at school after the affadavits came out. He had nothing to do with this and yet he is being victimized also. 

I feel very bad for David. He tried to be the man of the family at the beginning and was speaking to the media. He said at the time he didn't know Shawn very well. I got the impression with all of his spending the night with someone else he probably avoided the house as much as possible. I am sorry he has been victimized by what has happened to him through no fault of his own.

I hope her brother is a good person too. I also hope the Child Protective Services checked this out before they let him stay there. Maybe that is who David asked to stay with. It is too bad the kids at school are giving him a hard time. The evil that people do spreads to so many innocent people. I hope David is strong. I think he is going to need to be, and to have all the support in the world.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 20, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
Unless it is revealed to the contrary ... I support Billie's clarification of the issue.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Why was your son, David, taken into state custody?

BILLIE DUNN: He wasn`t taken into state custody. From my understanding, it`s normal for CPS to come in and interview you, which they did. I placed David at my brother`s house. That`s best for him. I have people driving by, hollering awful things. But there was no courts involved. He`s not in state custody. He`s at my brother`s house and here every day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


That is so odd to me, IF she placed him there so he would be protected from ppl yelling awful things when driving by, wth would she have him back there EVERY DAY?? Do they only yell awful things at night, her reasoning skills are severly lacking and I would be scared to death to have her as my nurse. I would totally applaud her for doing what was best for David and getting him out of the house, by I am not sure 1) I believe her story and 2) if I did believe it, the last comment I bolded actually invalidates the reason she sent him to be with her brother ::MonkeyTongue::
Probably still in school there in C.C., comes to moms to get ride back to uncles?

I havent been able to follow as often as I do without family here visiting but I will say this after watching her explain this last night.   I think child services strongly suggested she make arrangements for her son or they would but made adaptions since she was willing so that they could spend time together, in other words a loose accommodation & I do not think it was merely because people were screaming "bad things" toward her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 07:53:31 PM
 Please forgive my sloppy posting of the oil well map. I am just learning Photoshop and haven't got the cropping quite down. I may be old, but I'm still trying to learn. And thanks to JSM for bringing the link over here for me. (She's far from stupid.) ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 20, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
Sanmarie in reply to one of your previous questions.


Billie has stated that hailey didn't like Shawn because she thought he stood in the way of her parents reconciling. If that's true, wouldn't Hailey have had some issues with her father's girlfriend and new baby being in the way as well?

I think this is bs. HD didn't like SA because she was afraid of him...MOO

I believe Billie said words to the effect that "at the beginning" Hailey thought Shawn stood in the way of her parents reconciling. 

ITA adamantly.   Shoot, that dog was afraid of him in that video much less catching the looks that psycho gives to others.   I also think that Hailey was taken/possibly murdered either from her bed later the evening of the 26th, early the 17th.   There is also a chance that Shawn found her at her dad's (dad not home) & dragged her out of there (which is the only explanation I thought of late last night after hearing about the earring).  The only other thing about the earring is that she could have easily had it fall off there in a more innocent manner, it happens to all of us on occasion that a piece of jewelry falls off.   Another thought could Shawn have placed it there to put blame on the father...to me he had a real issue with Clint still being in Billie and/or Hailey & David's lives.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
Nancy Grace will soon be on. I don't know if Billie will be back. After just seeing Octomom in a dominatrix film chasing a man around in a diaper while she carries a whip on Jane Velez Mitchell, I am not sure I am up to watching Nancy tonight.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 07:58:23 PM
Something is definitely going on wrt the landfills, first they start searching the CCity landfill around noonish, and leave around 3, now they are in Snyder? What is in the landfills???

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/20/authories-now-searching-snyder-landfill-missing-co/

Authorities now searching Snyder landfill for missing Colorado City teen Hailey Dunn
By Celinda Emison
Abilene Reporter-News
Posted January 20, 2011 at 3:58 p.m.

COLORADO CITY – A waste facility in Snyder was the second landfill law enforcement searched to find evidence into the disappearance of Hailey Dunn who has been missing for over three weeks.

Cadaver dogs from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice were used at the Colorado City landfill and are currently searching at the Snyder Solid Waste Facility.

“We don’t know if there have been any hits,” said Pete Kampfer, city manager and spokesman for the task force investigating the disappearance of 13-year-old teen.

Investigators continued to search in Scurry County today.

Kampfer admitted there were hits at the Allied Waste Services during a search last Thursday and Friday but said it is unknown whether the hits were related to the Dunn case.

Volunteers continue searched in Scurry County as well, said Brad Dennis, director of KlaasKids Foundation, which is in Colorado City to organize volunteer search efforts.

“We also searched a lot of areas around the Colorado River,” Dennis said.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 07:59:55 PM
Hailey Suspect to 911: Billie Says She Wants to Die (with vides, the newly released 911 call and the other 3 - 911 calls)

Colorado City, TX -   KTAB News has obtained a fourth 911 call stemming from a February 2010 domestic dispute during which, according to police affidavits, Shawn Adkins allegedly threatened to kill 13-year-old Hailey Dunn and her mother.
Adkins is the boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Dunn, and the only confirmed suspect in the girl’s disappearance. According to police, Adkins was the last person to see Hailey on December 27: the day she went missing.

According to search warrant affidavits filed after Hailey's disappearance, Adkins admitted to investigators that he threatened the lives of both Billie and Hailey during a domestic dispute.

In the newly released call, Adkins calls Snyder Police on the afternoon of February 14 and reports Billie Dunn as "suicidal."



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Click here to listen to the newly released 911 call in its entirety
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617736

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In the call, Adkins calls himself Billie's ex-boyfriend and claims to be concerned about her well being.

Shawn: Okay, well – I have a situation on my hands. I have an ex-girlfriend and she’s taken a whole bunch of klonopin, it’s like an anxiety pill that I take. I guess she got them from me. I guess she, like, took a bunch of her pain pills too, and she’s saying that she wants to die and she don’t care about life and all this bull-crap. So, I don’t know what to do.

After giving some personal information to the dispatcher, Adkins continues about the current situation.

Shawn: Yeah, we had a big blowup today and one of the officers had to get involved in it.

Dispatch: In Big Spring?

Shawn: Uh, no, no… over the cell phone. And uh, so she file a report on me, you know, for threats and stuff like that. (unintelligible) between her, her brother, and myself. Now, I don’t know, she’s just upset about it. And she’s just, you know, just not being herself right now. I’m just really worried about her right now.

Towards the end of the call, the dispatcher tells Adkins he has a warrant for his arrest. Adkins confirms that he's aware. The Scurry County Sheriff's Office says this stems from a 2009 public intoxication arrest in Snyder.

The three 911 previous calls, released by KTAB News and obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, refer to threats made against Billie and her estranged husband, Clint, but not against Hailey. (scroll down to listen to all three 911 calls)

In the first call, made to Colorado City police at approximately 11:30 a.m. on Feb. 14, Billie Dunn told a dispatcher that she was at work in Snyder and feared Adkins was going to enter her home and take something.

Dunn: “My boyfriend and I just broke up yesterday, but he’s saying that he’s going to go in my house and get his t-shirt and I don’t want him in there while I’m gone because I don’t know what he’ll take. I don’t trust him enough to go in there."

Dunn went on to tell dispatchers that she feared Adkins could take a television or her son’s X-Box. Dunn also revealed that she rarely locked the windows or doors.

The dispatcher told Dunn that it was not possible for an officer to stand by her house all day, but said she would inform police.

Three and a half hours later, Dunn made a second call to 911 claiming Adkins threatened her life.

Dunn: “I broke up with this guy a couple days ago and he’s a little ‘MHMR.' He’s telling me that he’s going to kill me and my ex-husband. And it’s going to be remembered for a long time.”

Dunn said Adkins made the repeated threats via text message.

“I texted back just to try and calm him down a little, but he said it’s going to happen.”

In a second portion of the call released to KTAB News, the dispatcher is heard telling the officer that it was Dunn making the request for assistance.

“(She has) been going all day,” the officer replied.

The third call was made from a Snyder police officer to Colorado City police around 4:30 p.m. on the same day, informing dispatchers that he had received a call from Adkins.

Officer: “We got a call over here from her boyfriend say that she’s possible suicidal, threatening to take a bunch of pills."

Dispatcher: “We’ve been having a big problem with those two all day.”

The affidavits signed on Jan. 7 say Adkins originally told authorities that he never threatened Hailey during the dispute, but that he then admitting to threaten the lives of both Hailey and Billie.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333506


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Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 08:02:29 PM
Search Expert: "I Need People to Come Out Here" (with video)

During a live interview during KTAB News Thursday evening, an expert on missing children cases had a very clear message for viewers watching at home.
"I need people to come out here," said Marc Klaas.

Klaas knows Billie Dunn's situation well. In the 90s, his daughter, Polly Hannah Klaas, went missing and was later found dead. Since then, he's formed the advocate group KlaasKids in hopes of bringing home missing children alive. Klaas regularly appears on the Nancy Grace show to discuss Hailey's case.

"We need people to come out here and search for this girl," said Klaas. "It's going to be a good day tomorrow. And we want people to take her fliers and put them in their cars and drive around with them."

Klaas says everyone needs to know who Hailey Dunn is and it's up to the Big Country to make that happen.

Klaas wouldn't say what his group was showing and sharing with searchers. However, he said he has full confidence in his groups search director Brad Dennis.

"He's determining the best places to search, he's coordinating the grids, he's working with the teams to coordinate their efforts a little bit better, and he's doing this with a couple of the volunteers from the Texas-based Laura Recovery Center," added Klaas.

Klaas says his group came to town at the request of Billie Dunn. He says he and Hailey's mother have already formed a bond.

"I'm somebody who has been what she's going through. In a certain respect, I represented hope," said Klaas.

Klaas said he's educating Billie on exactly how long cases like these can take to resolve. In some cases, it can take months or years to find closure.

"The goal is keeping her missing child in front of the camera," said Klaas.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333526


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 20, 2011, 08:03:30 PM
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/Thursday_January20th_2011_7_19_19pm.jpg)


http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/

There are many oil wells both active and capped in Mitchell County. There are also dry holes that would be capped. I believe if you had a big wrench you could remove the cap off a pipe about six inches in diameter. Sometimes these pipes go thousands of feet into the ground. LAKE ERIE PRINCESS may be able to give us more details from her husband.

Legend for map

http://gis2.rrc.state.tx.us/public/help/legend.html


I did not post the map for Howard County where Big Spring is located.

Thanks Fanny, glad you posted it. You are a genius. It would have taken me forever to figure it out.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 20, 2011, 08:06:48 PM
Please forgive my sloppy posting of the oil well map. I am just learning Photoshop and haven't got the cropping quite down. I may be old, but I'm still trying to learn. And thanks to JSM for bringing the link over here for me. (She's far from stupid.) ::MonkeyJnBox::
  ::MonkeyKiss:: Thanks Fanny, you did the hard work, I just found the link.


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Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 08:08:40 PM
http://www.ktxs.com/news/26564175/detail.html

Colorado City and Snyder Landfills Searched For Missing Teen
POSTED: 5:28 pm CST January 20, 2011
UPDATED: 6:04 pm CST January 20, 2011

The FBI and cadaver dogs searched the Colorado City and Snyder landfills Thursday.

As of 5:15 p.m. Thursday night, when we spoke with City Manager Pete Kampfer, he says investigators have not reported back if the landfill searches were productive.

However, he says if they would have found something substantial, he would probably know by now.

But what drove authorities to check here for the 2nd time, is not being released, "They did, in their minds, have a reason to go back and go back over it again." remarked Kampfer.

Last Friday, crews spent the day digging in Abilene's landfill. It's unknown what evidence, if any, they found.

Colorado City City Manager Pete Kampfer says Colorado City's landfill is not the only one they'll sift through this week, "To my knowledge, they are going to do multiple searches in landfills and they may be in the area they may be outside in the region."

He did not know if investigators had a specific reason to keep checking the area's trash.

As for the only named suspect in the case, Billie Dunn's former live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins, Kampfer was not sure if he's still staying with a relative in Dunn, "That I do not know."

When we asked him if Adkins is being watched, he replied, "I know that he is being monitored." He added that since Adkins hired a lawyer, he has not cooperated with law enforcement.

Adkins' lawyer told KTXS Wednesday, Adkins has volunteered all the information he knows to authorities.

Thursday, we did speak to a representative from Child Protective Services. Wednesday, we reported Hailey's older brother David was removed from Billie Dunn's home. Thursday, CPS would not confirm if they are investigating the family.

However, a spokeswoman did say there are instances when CPS is investigating a family that they ask the family to place a child voluntarily outside the home pending the outcome of that investigation.


Wednesday night on the Nancy Grace Show, Billie Dunn said her son David is staying with an uncle.

We tried again to talk with Billie, however since KTXS first released the affidavits the showed disturbing information about Billie and Shawn, she has refused an interview.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 08:12:51 PM
Previous search in a landfill (not today) LE told Ruppa the cadaver dog hit was related to Hailey but not her body.

They are also looking for a letter. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 08:20:28 PM
map of landfills


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 20, 2011, 08:23:26 PM
In the 911 tape played on NG SA says BD threatened to take all HIS Klonopin plus HER pain meds.

Here is some info on Klonopin from 

http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html

Abuse
•Klonopin is sometimes known by the street name "K-pin." Users compare the high to a drunk feeling. Users may eventually need to increase dosage to achieve the desired effect, risking overdose or potentially harmful side effects. Coma, impaired motor function, difficulty breathing, confusion, and nausea are all signs of overdose. Long-term users may experience withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, anxiety, hallucinations, psychosis, and anger. Withdrawal in heavy users can be deadly and a medical detox is highly recommended.


Read more: What Is the Abuse Potential Of Klonopin? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html#ixzz1Bd26vVTX


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 08:26:22 PM
Billie is on. She went out today with Mark Klaas.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 08:27:56 PM
Billie tonight


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 20, 2011, 08:28:03 PM
In the 911 tape played on NG SA says BD threatened to take all HIS Klonopin plus HER pain meds.

Here is some info on Klonopin from 

http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html

Abuse
•Klonopin is sometimes known by the street name "K-pin." Users compare the high to a drunk feeling. Users may eventually need to increase dosage to achieve the desired effect, risking overdose or potentially harmful side effects. Coma, impaired motor function, difficulty breathing, confusion, and nausea are all signs of overdose. Long-term users may experience withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, anxiety, hallucinations, psychosis, and anger. Withdrawal in heavy users can be deadly and a medical detox is highly recommended.


Read more: What Is the Abuse Potential Of Klonopin? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html#ixzz1Bd26vVTX
And Klonopin is also a life savor for some people that experience terrible anxiety attacks.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
Billie says she talks to Shawn every couple of days.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 08:36:56 PM
Nancy shows a MySpace message to Billie. Billie says she hasn't read it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 08:37:51 PM
Billie tonight

Thanks NORTHERN for your links and screen shots.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 08:39:56 PM
Police say they don't want to release the forensic evidence found in car until there is an arrest?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 20, 2011, 08:49:08 PM
My husbands niece and her husband got into some trouble a few years ago and CPS took the kids ...I immediatly went down to the office and pleaded for them to let me have them instead of strangers and after an extensive background check they let the kids go home with me , yet they were still under CPS control and I was closely monitored . This could be the case with David.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 20, 2011, 08:57:03 PM
SNIPPED:

Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/

Thanks for posting. This rules out one f my suspicions.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
My husbands niece and her husband got into some trouble a few years ago and CPS took the kids ...I immediatly went down to the office and pleaded for them to let me have them instead of strangers and after an extensive background check they let the kids go home with me , yet they were still under CPS control and I was closely monitored . This could be the case with David.

I would hope that is what has happened in this case too. It was very kind of you to go get the kids.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 20, 2011, 09:02:20 PM
Billie is on. She went out today with Mark Klaas.
I have great respect for Mark Klaas but he seems to be very sympathetic to Billie....no nanners please but I have to wonder if maybe she might remind him of Polly? Brown eyes, light brown hair and I think i heard him say a while back that Polly would have been about 30 now? I just do not recall him defending others in this way.....Just a thought .....God bless Polly and Mark. And God help the Dunn family.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 20, 2011, 09:06:07 PM
Helper , I see you up there in the rafters...anything you can share going on in your town today ? What of the searchers at the landfill? Have you anything to report to us?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 20, 2011, 09:10:20 PM
alot going on in town but rules are rules just a lot of rumors flying every where


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 20, 2011, 09:14:59 PM
alot going on in town but rules are rules just a lot of rumors flying every where
Thanks helper ......Lord knows we don't need anymore rumors  in this case !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 09:15:15 PM
Billie is on. She went out today with Mark Klaas.
I have great respect for Mark Klaas but he seems to be very sympathetic to Billie....no nanners please but I have to wonder if maybe she might remind him of Polly? Brown eyes, light brown hair and I think i heard him say a while back that Polly would have been about 30 now? I just do not recall him defending others in this way.....Just a thought .....God bless Polly and Mark. And God help the Dunn family.

I am really confused about Mark myself. He has always said the first thing to do is to clear yourself. Take a poly so they can move on to searching for whoever took a child. Billie has not been cleared, in fact, she refuses to take another poly. Says she doesn't trust them. He has been treating her like a victim, and maybe she is. She just hasn't done what he has always preached.

  Mark is down on the police work and criticizing them. Now, I don't like their choice of spokesmen and only think they confuse things, but I do think there are competent lawmen working the case. Even though this is a small police force, they have experienced officers helping them from all over the state. There were mistakes made in Polly's case, and Mark has reason to be critical, but I have never heard him openly criticize a working case like this before. I really don't think that is doing any good, and has probably caused a lot of resentment from law enforcement. I can't imagine there is any co-operation between his group and the LE. Maybe the Laura Recovery team is a liaison for them.  :smt102


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 09:20:17 PM
alot going on in town but rules are rules just a lot of rumors flying every where
::MonkeyShocked:: but but, we are WS ::MonkeyWink::

Anything you can share? Also, I have a question.....are the locals coming to the aid of Billie or Clint or is it mostly ppl that don't know them, I am meaning financially, donations etc to help them get by for the basic needs........


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 09:20:43 PM
alot going on in town but rules are rules just a lot of rumors flying every where
::MonkeyShocked:: but but, we are NOT  WS ::MonkeyWink::

Anything you can share? Also, I have a question.....are the locals coming to the aid of Billie or Clint or is it mostly ppl that don't know them, I am meaning financially, donations etc to help them get by for the basic needs........

edit..........I meant NOT WS


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 09:22:37 PM
Hope fades that Hailey Dunn will be found unharmed


COLORADO CITY — Volunteers searching for a missing Texas teenager trekked through fields covered with shrubs and small trees on Thursday and retraced steps already taken by police, looking for any clues that could help find the girl who was last seen more than three weeks ago.

Some volunteers said hope was fading that Hailey Darlene Dunn would be found unharmed.

"Part of me hopes we don't find her and part of me hopes we do," volunteer Kevin Bowman said as he wiped away tears. "Statistically speaking it does not get any better as time goes on."

Bowman, a father of three, and his brother joined about 20 others to look for Hailey, a middle school cheerleader who was reported missing more than three weeks ago in Colorado City, located about 240 miles west of Dallas. Wearing yellow vests, the volunteers broke off into small groups to scour an open field that police had previously searched.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn, whose former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw the girl a day earlier when she told him she was going to her father's nearby home and would stay overnight with a friend. She did neither. Billie Dunn said she last saw Hailey at home the night of Dec. 26.

Investigation spokesman Pete Kampfer, the town's city manager and a former FBI agent who is speaking for authorities, said police on Thursday searched empty buildings in the area and several landfills, including the one in Mitchell County. On Tuesday, he told the AP evidence was found at a landfill in Abilene but declined to elaborate on what was found. No one has been arrested.

Authorities have named Adkins, 25, as one of several people of interest in the case. Affidavits said he and Hailey's mother lied on polygraphs. Both have denied any involvement in Hailey's disappearance.

Billie Dunn told a small gathering at a Lion's Club luncheon in Colorado City on Thursday that she was grateful for all the donations to help the search effort and for volunteers who have helped search for her daughter.

"Thanks everyone for every thought and every prayer," she said.

Later she said she is hanging on to hope her daughter is alive.

"Oh, yeah," she said. "Definitely."

Mark Klaas, who organized the KlaasKids Foundation in the aftermath of the abduction and death of Polly Klaas in 1993, is assisting in the search.

"I think we need to get our arms around the fact that this may go on for a while," he told the Lions luncheon.

Margie Brophy, a 60-year-old Colorado City resident, said she has been out searching for Hailey since she went missing. She is frustrated and her heart is breaking — she said she believes Hailey's not alive anymore.

"It's gone on too long," Brophy said. "It's gone on really too long. It's breaking my heart every day that goes by."

Out on a bridge a few miles north of the town lined with stuffed animals, friends of Clint Dunn, Hailey's father, added two small, brightly colored ones. Danny Thurmond and Margie Sanderson fought back tears as they spoke about their hope that Hailey will come home alive.

"The days go by, the nights go by," Sanderson said. "We stay up and think about Hailey."

http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_aece24c4-24fc-11e0-9f37-001cc4c002e0.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 20, 2011, 09:24:35 PM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
alot going on in town but rules are rules just a lot of rumors flying every where
::MonkeyShocked:: but but, we are NOT  WS ::MonkeyWink::

Anything you can share? Also, I have a question.....are the locals coming to the aid of Billie or Clint or is it mostly ppl that don't know them, I am meaning financially, donations etc to help them get by for the basic needs........

edit..........I meant NOT WS

Have you been to Margaritaville again?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 20, 2011, 09:28:51 PM
Margaritaville? I wanna go too !  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 09:32:35 PM
Hope fades that Hailey Dunn will be found unharmed


COLORADO CITY — Volunteers searching for a missing Texas teenager trekked through fields covered with shrubs and small trees on Thursday and retraced steps already taken by police, looking for any clues that could help find the girl who was last seen more than three weeks ago.

Some volunteers said hope was fading that Hailey Darlene Dunn would be found unharmed.

"Part of me hopes we don't find her and part of me hopes we do," volunteer Kevin Bowman said as he wiped away tears. "Statistically speaking it does not get any better as time goes on."

Bowman, a father of three, and his brother joined about 20 others to look for Hailey, a middle school cheerleader who was reported missing more than three weeks ago in Colorado City, located about 240 miles west of Dallas. Wearing yellow vests, the volunteers broke off into small groups to scour an open field that police had previously searched.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn, whose former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw the girl a day earlier when she told him she was going to her father's nearby home and would stay overnight with a friend. She did neither. Billie Dunn said she last saw Hailey at home the night of Dec. 26.

Investigation spokesman Pete Kampfer, the town's city manager and a former FBI agent who is speaking for authorities, said police on Thursday searched empty buildings in the area and several landfills, including the one in Mitchell County. On Tuesday, he told the AP evidence was found at a landfill in Abilene but declined to elaborate on what was found. No one has been arrested.

Authorities have named Adkins, 25, as one of several people of interest in the case. Affidavits said he and Hailey's mother lied on polygraphs. Both have denied any involvement in Hailey's disappearance.

Billie Dunn told a small gathering at a Lion's Club luncheon in Colorado City on Thursday that she was grateful for all the donations to help the search effort and for volunteers who have helped search for her daughter.

"Thanks everyone for every thought and every prayer," she said.

Later she said she is hanging on to hope her daughter is alive.

"Oh, yeah," she said. "Definitely."

Mark Klaas, who organized the KlaasKids Foundation in the aftermath of the abduction and death of Polly Klaas in 1993, is assisting in the search.

"I think we need to get our arms around the fact that this may go on for a while," he told the Lions luncheon.

Margie Brophy, a 60-year-old Colorado City resident, said she has been out searching for Hailey since she went missing. She is frustrated and her heart is breaking — she said she believes Hailey's not alive anymore.

"It's gone on too long," Brophy said. "It's gone on really too long. It's breaking my heart every day that goes by."

Out on a bridge a few miles north of the town lined with stuffed animals, friends of Clint Dunn, Hailey's father, added two small, brightly colored ones. Danny Thurmond and Margie Sanderson fought back tears as they spoke about their hope that Hailey will come home alive.

"The days go by, the nights go by," Sanderson said. "We stay up and think about Hailey."

http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_aece24c4-24fc-11e0-9f37-001cc4c002e0.html

I don't know how these searcher can go out day after day. I know I would be terrified I would find something. Not to speak of all the rattlesnakes out in that area. Sweetwater Texas is between Abilene and Colorado City. They have a rattlesnake rodeo every summer, and you would be shocked at the number of them they find. It's colder now, so maybe they are not out so much, but probing around, you could disturb one. Nevertheless they go out day after day. They are truly angels.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 20, 2011, 09:34:14 PM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.
Are there a lot of ppl wearing t-shirts for Hailey/flyers there in town?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 09:34:22 PM
Grace: Physical Evidence Discovered in Landfill Searches

HLN's "Nancy Grace" show featured Hailey Dunn's case for a fourth straight night Thursday. This time, Grace focused on the >new 911 call obtained by bigcountryhomepage.com that features Shawn Adkins as well as today's landfill searches.
One of the program's producers, Rupa Mikkilineni, reported that evidence was found in previous landfill searches which prompted Thursday's new searches. Mikkilineni labeled the evidence "physical." She went on to say that police told her they are only searching for evidence that pertains to Hailey in the landfills. Mikkilineni reported officers don't believe someone intentionally dumped a body in the trash. Bigcountryhomepage.com can not independently confirm this report.

Missing persons expert Marc Klaas said he doesn't believe this represents any major break in the case. Klaas says police have told Billie if there were major developments, she'd be the first to know about them.

"Whatever it is -- the speculation that's going on about what's going on out there today, they haven't found anything that links Hailey to that landfill," said Klaas. "Until they do...they'll continue to search the landfill.

Billie Dunn said it's scary to hear major developments may be happening in the case. However, Dunn reiterated what Klaas previously mentioned -- she's confident the authorities would tell her if something major happened. Dunn said she was under the impression law enforcement was looking for any letter or notes Hailey might have written.

Grace questioned why cadaver dogs were being used in the search if police weren't directly looking for a body in the landfills. A dog expert joined the program and said cadaver dogs can hit on any sort of human tissue. The tissue includes anything from a body to bloody bandage.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333546


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 20, 2011, 09:35:53 PM
In the 911 tape played on NG SA says BD threatened to take all HIS Klonopin plus HER pain meds.

Here is some info on Klonopin from 

http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html

Abuse
•Klonopin is sometimes known by the street name "K-pin." Users compare the high to a drunk feeling. Users may eventually need to increase dosage to achieve the desired effect, risking overdose or potentially harmful side effects. Coma, impaired motor function, difficulty breathing, confusion, and nausea are all signs of overdose. Long-term users may experience withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, anxiety, hallucinations, psychosis, and anger. Withdrawal in heavy users can be deadly and a medical detox is highly recommended.


Read more: What Is the Abuse Potential Of Klonopin? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html#ixzz1Bd26vVTX
And Klonopin is also a life savor for some people that experience terrible anxiety attacks.
Of course, No Rose!
I should have copied all the info about the drug instead of jumping to a conclusion about SA.  You are most surely right. 
I suffer from anxiety and have taken Ativan in the past.  Ativan and Klonopin are in the same family of drugs.
I meant no harm.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
Margaritaville? I wanna go too !  ::MonkeyTongue::

You have to not mind sand in your flip-flops.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/bf-palmsmiley.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 09:38:23 PM
Grace: Physical Evidence Discovered in Landfill Searches

HLN's "Nancy Grace" show featured Hailey Dunn's case for a fourth straight night Thursday. This time, Grace focused on the >new 911 call obtained by bigcountryhomepage.com that features Shawn Adkins as well as today's landfill searches.
One of the program's producers, Rupa Mikkilineni, reported that evidence was found in previous landfill searches which prompted Thursday's new searches. Mikkilineni labeled the evidence "physical." She went on to say that police told her they are only searching for evidence that pertains to Hailey in the landfills. Mikkilineni reported officers don't believe someone intentionally dumped a body in the trash. Bigcountryhomepage.com can not independently confirm this report.

Missing persons expert Marc Klaas said he doesn't believe this represents any major break in the case. Klaas says police have told Billie if there were major developments, she'd be the first to know about them.

"Whatever it is -- the speculation that's going on about what's going on out there today, they haven't found anything that links Hailey to that landfill," said Klaas. "Until they do...they'll continue to search the landfill.

Billie Dunn said it's scary to hear major developments may be happening in the case. However, Dunn reiterated what Klaas previously mentioned -- she's confident the authorities would tell her if something major happened. Dunn said she was under the impression law enforcement was looking for any letter or notes Hailey might have written.

Grace questioned why cadaver dogs were being used in the search if police weren't directly looking for a body in the landfills. A dog expert joined the program and said cadaver dogs can hit on any sort of human tissue. The tissue includes anything from a body to bloody bandage.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333546

They could be looking for letters or dated material to hone in on the exact garbage from the Dunn home.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: helper on January 20, 2011, 09:41:48 PM
yes to the shirts and really good theory on letters


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 20, 2011, 09:45:41 PM
My husbands niece and her husband got into some trouble a few years ago and CPS took the kids ...I immediatly went down to the office and pleaded for them to let me have them instead of strangers and after an extensive background check they let the kids go home with me , yet they were still under CPS control and I was closely monitored . This could be the case with David.

I would hope that is what has happened in this case too. It was very kind of you to go get the kids.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. What a shame I am so suspicious of strangers and those kids going to them. Thank God you   ::MonkeyAngel:: stepped up to the plate. So sad that more do not do that in those situations.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 20, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
In the 911 tape played on NG SA says BD threatened to take all HIS Klonopin plus HER pain meds.

Here is some info on Klonopin from 

http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html

Abuse
•Klonopin is sometimes known by the street name "K-pin." Users compare the high to a drunk feeling. Users may eventually need to increase dosage to achieve the desired effect, risking overdose or potentially harmful side effects. Coma, impaired motor function, difficulty breathing, confusion, and nausea are all signs of overdose. Long-term users may experience withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, anxiety, hallucinations, psychosis, and anger. Withdrawal in heavy users can be deadly and a medical detox is highly recommended.


Read more: What Is the Abuse Potential Of Klonopin? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html#ixzz1Bd26vVTX
And Klonopin is also a life savor for some people that experience terrible anxiety attacks.
Of course, No Rose!
I should have copied all the info about the drug instead of jumping to a conclusion about SA.  You are most surely right. 
I suffer from anxiety and have taken Ativan in the past.  Ativan and Klonopin are in the same family of drugs.
I meant no harm.
You would never mean any harm  ::MonkeyAngel::  I was just saying that for some people it is an excellent medication.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 09:52:44 PM

I am really confused about Mark myself. He has always said the first thing to do is to clear yourself. Take a poly so they can move on to searching for whoever took a child. Billie has not been cleared, in fact, she refuses to take another poly. Says she doesn't trust them. He has been treating her like a victim, and maybe she is. She just hasn't done what he has always preached.

  Mark is down on the police work and criticizing them. Now, I don't like their choice of spokesmen and only think they confuse things, but I do think there are competent lawmen working the case. Even though this is a small police force, they have experienced officers helping them from all over the state. There were mistakes made in Polly's case, and Mark has reason to be critical, but I have never heard him openly criticize a working case like this before. I really don't think that is doing any good, and has probably caused a lot of resentment from law enforcement. I can't imagine there is any co-operation between his group and the LE. Maybe the Laura Recovery team is a liaison for them.  :smt102

 ::MonkeyShocked::

POLYGRAPHS

Billie Dunn

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: The first Friday they had it set up for us to take, we had taken Ativan the night before to go to sleep. They didn`t tell us we couldn`t have anxiety medicine. So when we were able to get it set up again -- Shawn had actually called them and asked them if he could come down and take it yet, and they said yes. They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. ....

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it. ....

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: That`s an excellent question. To Billie Dunn joining us tonight and taking your calls, I know cops told you deception possible on your first polygraph. That`s what you tell us. Cops say they never said any such of a thing. Are you willing to take another poly, and if not with the local cops, would you take one with the Feds?

B. DUNN: No. I would think about taking one with somebody else, with the FBI

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html


Affidavits

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


Through the Freedom of Information Act, KTXS has received copies of affidavits that were filed by law enforcement officials for the purpose of securing search warrants to search for and seize evidence related to Hailey’s disappearance. ...

Information in these summary statements comes directly from the affidavits:

– Billie Dunn volunteered to take a polygraph examination, but when she arrived, she was found to be “under the influence of narcotics,” and she was dismissed from the test at that time. On her second attempt, the investigators concluded there was “deception indicated.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Clint Dunn

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 10, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Clint, have you taken a polygraph yet?

CLINT DUNN, DAD OF MISSING TEEN CHEERLEADER HAILEY B. DUNN: No, I haven`t.

GRACE: Well, it sounds like they`ve strapped everybody up. What`s your holdup?

C. DUNN: I don`t know. I told them I`m ready to take a polygraph but they haven`t gave me one.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/10/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 09:55:21 PM
yes to the shirts and really good theory on letters

Thanks HELPER. It's nice to know someone thinks I have a brain and I'm not just another pretty face. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/dancinggranny.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 20, 2011, 09:56:05 PM
off to do the laundry...carry on monkeys...hopefully good news on Hailey soon !


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 20, 2011, 09:56:37 PM


JMHO...but I think Shawn harmed Hailey. Why stand watching her in her bedroom...that is creepy. Is his window of opportunity the time he got home after going to work and abruptly leaving...or could he have done something the night before and needed to go clean up his tracks. Any thoughts/theories as to the time line as we now know it?

Who would get to work and leave 10 min later unless they thought of something they wanted/needed to do? Saying nothing and leaving, that is irrational..IMHO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 09:57:24 PM
off to do the laundry...carry on monkeys...hopefully good news on Hailey soon !

Yes, I think we all go to bed every night hoping tomorrow Hailey will be found.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:00:46 PM

I am really confused about Mark myself. He has always said the first thing to do is to clear yourself. Take a poly so they can move on to searching for whoever took a child. Billie has not been cleared, in fact, she refuses to take another poly. Says she doesn't trust them. He has been treating her like a victim, and maybe she is. She just hasn't done what he has always preached.

  Mark is down on the police work and criticizing them. Now, I don't like their choice of spokesmen and only think they confuse things, but I do think there are competent lawmen working the case. Even though this is a small police force, they have experienced officers helping them from all over the state. There were mistakes made in Polly's case, and Mark has reason to be critical, but I have never heard him openly criticize a working case like this before. I really don't think that is doing any good, and has probably caused a lot of resentment from law enforcement. I can't imagine there is any co-operation between his group and the LE. Maybe the Laura Recovery team is a liaison for them.  :smt102

 ::MonkeyShocked::

POLYGRAPHS

Billie Dunn

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: The first Friday they had it set up for us to take, we had taken Ativan the night before to go to sleep. They didn`t tell us we couldn`t have anxiety medicine. So when we were able to get it set up again -- Shawn had actually called them and asked them if he could come down and take it yet, and they said yes. They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. ....

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it. ....

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: That`s an excellent question. To Billie Dunn joining us tonight and taking your calls, I know cops told you deception possible on your first polygraph. That`s what you tell us. Cops say they never said any such of a thing. Are you willing to take another poly, and if not with the local cops, would you take one with the Feds?

B. DUNN: No. I would think about taking one with somebody else, with the FBI

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html


Affidavits

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


Through the Freedom of Information Act, KTXS has received copies of affidavits that were filed by law enforcement officials for the purpose of securing search warrants to search for and seize evidence related to Hailey’s disappearance. ...

Information in these summary statements comes directly from the affidavits:

– Billie Dunn volunteered to take a polygraph examination, but when she arrived, she was found to be “under the influence of narcotics,” and she was dismissed from the test at that time. On her second attempt, the investigators concluded there was “deception indicated.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Clint Dunn

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 10, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Clint, have you taken a polygraph yet?

CLINT DUNN, DAD OF MISSING TEEN CHEERLEADER HAILEY B. DUNN: No, I haven`t.

GRACE: Well, it sounds like they`ve strapped everybody up. What`s your holdup?

C. DUNN: I don`t know. I told them I`m ready to take a polygraph but they haven`t gave me one.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/10/ng.01.html


I wonder if Mark has arranged for Billie to take a poly with the FBI? And yes, I think Clint should take one too, and maybe his girlfriend. Let's get the family cleared and move on. It's been over four weeks already.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: WillenFan21 on January 20, 2011, 10:04:28 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 10:05:37 PM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.

Thanks for the insight~I was just curious about the local outlook on everything.....I did talk with someone in Snyder as I grew up in TX and have family and friends scattered, they didn't even know who I was talking about, I was shocked-they knew a 13 yr old cheerleader was missing but that was it ::MonkeyNoNo:: Made me very sad


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 10:07:05 PM
alot going on in town but rules are rules just a lot of rumors flying every where
::MonkeyShocked:: but but, we are NOT  WS ::MonkeyWink::

Anything you can share? Also, I have a question.....are the locals coming to the aid of Billie or Clint or is it mostly ppl that don't know them, I am meaning financially, donations etc to help them get by for the basic needs........

edit..........I meant NOT WS

Have you been to Margaritaville again?  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: Actually recovering from last night's trip.....had 2 b-days last night and one of the parties was there, 4 down and 2 to go (and a very empty bank account)!!!!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 10:10:50 PM

I am really confused about Mark myself. He has always said the first thing to do is to clear yourself. Take a poly so they can move on to searching for whoever took a child. Billie has not been cleared, in fact, she refuses to take another poly. Says she doesn't trust them. He has been treating her like a victim, and maybe she is. She just hasn't done what he has always preached.

  Mark is down on the police work and criticizing them. Now, I don't like their choice of spokesmen and only think they confuse things, but I do think there are competent lawmen working the case. Even though this is a small police force, they have experienced officers helping them from all over the state. There were mistakes made in Polly's case, and Mark has reason to be critical, but I have never heard him openly criticize a working case like this before. I really don't think that is doing any good, and has probably caused a lot of resentment from law enforcement. I can't imagine there is any co-operation between his group and the LE. Maybe the Laura Recovery team is a liaison for them.  :smt102

 ::MonkeyShocked::

POLYGRAPHS

Billie Dunn

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: The first Friday they had it set up for us to take, we had taken Ativan the night before to go to sleep. They didn`t tell us we couldn`t have anxiety medicine. So when we were able to get it set up again -- Shawn had actually called them and asked them if he could come down and take it yet, and they said yes. They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. ....

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it. ....

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: That`s an excellent question. To Billie Dunn joining us tonight and taking your calls, I know cops told you deception possible on your first polygraph. That`s what you tell us. Cops say they never said any such of a thing. Are you willing to take another poly, and if not with the local cops, would you take one with the Feds?

B. DUNN: No. I would think about taking one with somebody else, with the FBI

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html


Affidavits

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


Through the Freedom of Information Act, KTXS has received copies of affidavits that were filed by law enforcement officials for the purpose of securing search warrants to search for and seize evidence related to Hailey’s disappearance. ...

Information in these summary statements comes directly from the affidavits:

– Billie Dunn volunteered to take a polygraph examination, but when she arrived, she was found to be “under the influence of narcotics,” and she was dismissed from the test at that time. On her second attempt, the investigators concluded there was “deception indicated.”

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html


Clint Dunn

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 10, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: Clint, have you taken a polygraph yet?

CLINT DUNN, DAD OF MISSING TEEN CHEERLEADER HAILEY B. DUNN: No, I haven`t.

GRACE: Well, it sounds like they`ve strapped everybody up. What`s your holdup?

C. DUNN: I don`t know. I told them I`m ready to take a polygraph but they haven`t gave me one.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/10/ng.01.html


I wonder if Mark has arranged for Billie to take a poly with the FBI? And yes, I think Clint should take one too, and maybe his girlfriend. Let's get the family cleared and move on. It's been over four weeks already.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:14:02 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I don't think you are in the minority here as there are many Monkeys that think the way you do. And it's ok with me and probably everyone else that you all feel that way. I am so vocal about Billie, because I have processed the evidence in a different way than you have. It's possible the polygraph operator read the LDT incorrectly as it has happened before. They are not foolproof. But that would push me to get another operator to give me one ASAP. If I felt like I was truthful, wild horses couldn't stop me till I cleared myself.

What I don't get, is why she thought if Shawn failed his poly, she was willing to believe he was untruthful. But in the next breath she says she doesn't trust polygraphs.  Color me confused.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:24:54 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.

I do too. I think he is pushing her to say the right things, but she is very stiff with it. Tonight she spoke to Hailey for the first time I can remember. I am sure if I am wrong about that, someone will correct me. But I honestly haven't heard her make a plea to Hailey to stay strong and that her mother loves her and she can't wait till she is home.

I have heard mother's say they go in their missing child's room and smell their clothes and belongings. I have heard nothing close to that with her. Tonight all she could say is Hailey should call 911 because she doesn't have her cell phone. (Those mean police!) It always comes back to Billie.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 20, 2011, 10:28:33 PM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.
Thanks HELPER ::MonkeyAngel::

Some how I knew Clint would be a proud stand up type of guy. I am not sure if you all saw his baby girl "Chloe" in photos, but she is just beautiful. She looks allot like Hailey to me. I don't think Hailey would have runaway. She was too excited about that new baby.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 10:29:28 PM
Life outside the home implied that I missed the Nancy Grace Show but plan on watching the repeat at 9:00 PM PT.

I sincerely hope that Mark Klaas will arrange FBI polygraphs for Clint and Naomi as well as another polygraph for Billie.  Considering Shawn alleged that Hailey left her home at 3:15 PM on December 27th to go to the home of her father ... in the name of justice for Hailey why has Clint and his girlfriend not been given a polygraph?  Clint stated on Nancy Grace that he has volunteered.

Janet

+++++

The Polygraph: Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins

Documents Point To Mother, Boyfriend In Hailey Dunn's Disappearance
POSTED: 9:54 pm CST January 11, 2011
UPDATED: 2:17 pm CST January 12, 2011


Information in these summary statements comes directly from the affidavits:

– Billie Dunn volunteered to take a polygraph examination, but when she arrived, she was found to be “under the influence of narcotics,” and she was dismissed from the test at that time. On her second attempt, the investigators concluded there was “deception indicated.” After the examination, Billie Dunn was given the chance to discuss and explain “why she failed the examination.” Officials said she couldn't explain them, and she ended the interview by walking out.

– Adkins twice refused to take polygraph examinations. Then he agreed to a polygraph, but after providing some inconsistent information, he ended this polygraph by walking out. Officials said he failed the polygraph, particularly concerning the whereabouts of Hailey.

– During his polygraph examination, before walking out, Adkins provided some positive reaction about knowing where Hailey Dunn is. Indications were that Hailey may be in Scurry County.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26459455/detail.html
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 10:30:24 PM

GRACE: To Billie Dunn. You believe -- you told me that she was wearing those earrings over Christmas. Did she spend the night with her father Christmas evening?

DUNN: She did.

GRACE: Are you absolutely positive she had the earrings on Sunday, the next day?

DUNN: No, I`m not.

GRACE: So him saying --

DUNN: I noticed that she had taken them out.

GRACE: Yes. So him saying she left it there Christmas night is entirely possible, correct?

DUNN: Yes.


------------------------------------------------------------------

GRACE: You know, that`s a very good point. But you`ve got to remember, the boyfriend places himself with Hailey around 3:00 after the neighbor sees her at 12:00. But speaking of that, back to Billie Dunn, Hailey`s mom, you`re actually more familiar than that than we are because we have gone around and tried to find that guy. We haven`t been able to find him. What do you know about him? Have police finally run him down?

DUNN: I know that they did question him well. They did search the house that he was living in here next door. They said they searched it well. He`s not a suspect. I don`t know if they know where he went to or not. I believe he`s still in town. And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.
   ::MonkeyEek:: I think even Nancy Grace was shocked.....http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.html

I wonder why the big deal about the earrings is she knew they had been taken out......I stay so confuzzled in this case, it's like a constant contradiction on soooooo many levels







Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 10:32:54 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.

I do too. I think he is pushing her to say the right things, but she is very stiff with it. Tonight she spoke to Hailey for the first time I can remember. I am sure if I am wrong about that, someone will correct me. But I honestly haven't heard her make a plea to Hailey to stay strong and that her mother loves her and she can't wait till she is home.

I have heard mother's say they go in their missing child's room and smell their clothes and belongings. I have heard nothing close to that with her. Tonight all she could say is Hailey should call 911 because she doesn't have her cell phone. (Those mean police!) It always comes back to Billie.  ::MonkeyMad::

I don't think Clint every appealed to Hailey through the media?  I could be wrong.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 10:35:18 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.

I do too. I think he is pushing her to say the right things, but she is very stiff with it. Tonight she spoke to Hailey for the first time I can remember. I am sure if I am wrong about that, someone will correct me. But I honestly haven't heard her make a plea to Hailey to stay strong and that her mother loves her and she can't wait till she is home.

I have heard mother's say they go in their missing child's room and smell their clothes and belongings. I have heard nothing close to that with her. Tonight all she could say is Hailey should call 911 because she doesn't have her cell phone. (Those mean police!) It always comes back to Billie.  ::MonkeyMad::

ITA on your perspective and wrt to smelling the clothes, I did that with Eli......until the scent was gone, I can't imagine

I also know you can lose your phone and keep your number, I tossed mine in the trash along with my checkbook in November ::MonkeyTongue:: so no SIM card, I just bought a new phone and they loaded my SIM card (of course I lost all my contacts but the phone is the same number), of course maybe in these type legal situations it is different-I don't know


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:36:23 PM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.
Thanks HELPER ::MonkeyAngel::

Some how I knew Clint would be a proud stand up type of guy. I am not sure if you all saw his baby girl "Chloe" in photos, but she is just beautiful. She looks allot like Hailey to me. I don't think Hailey would have runaway. She was too excited about that new baby.

CARTFLY, is it you that your husband worked in the oil fields? I think I may have gotten you and LAKE ERIE PRINCESS mixed up.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 10:38:16 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.

I do too. I think he is pushing her to say the right things, but she is very stiff with it. Tonight she spoke to Hailey for the first time I can remember. I am sure if I am wrong about that, someone will correct me. But I honestly haven't heard her make a plea to Hailey to stay strong and that her mother loves her and she can't wait till she is home.

I have heard mother's say they go in their missing child's room and smell their clothes and belongings. I have heard nothing close to that with her. Tonight all she could say is Hailey should call 911 because she doesn't have her cell phone. (Those mean police!) It always comes back to Billie.  ::MonkeyMad::

I don't think Clint every appealed to Hailey through the media?  I could be wrong.

Janet

I don't think he gets the coverage, more local is my impression but I did see a vid that had him meeting the searchers and thanking them, in one shot he grabbed one of the male searchers almost like he was a life preserver and he was crying......I do agree that everyone should be polygraphed for obvious reasons. Wonder why LE/FBI hasn't proceeded in that?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:39:38 PM

GRACE: To Billie Dunn. You believe -- you told me that she was wearing those earrings over Christmas. Did she spend the night with her father Christmas evening?

DUNN: She did.

GRACE: Are you absolutely positive she had the earrings on Sunday, the next day?

DUNN: No, I`m not.

GRACE: So him saying --

DUNN: I noticed that she had taken them out.

GRACE: Yes. So him saying she left it there Christmas night is entirely possible, correct?

DUNN: Yes.


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GRACE: You know, that`s a very good point. But you`ve got to remember, the boyfriend places himself with Hailey around 3:00 after the neighbor sees her at 12:00. But speaking of that, back to Billie Dunn, Hailey`s mom, you`re actually more familiar than that than we are because we have gone around and tried to find that guy. We haven`t been able to find him. What do you know about him? Have police finally run him down?

DUNN: I know that they did question him well. They did search the house that he was living in here next door. They said they searched it well. He`s not a suspect. I don`t know if they know where he went to or not. I believe he`s still in town. And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.
   ::MonkeyEek:: I think even Nancy Grace was shocked.....http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.html

I wonder why the big deal about the earrings is she knew they had been taken out......I stay so confuzzled in this case, it's like a constant contradiction on soooooo many levels







Didn't she say last night on Nancy Grace she didn't notice whether Hailey had only one earring on or not when she came home from Clints?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 20, 2011, 10:41:53 PM
UPDATED 9:10 p.m.: Foundation leader helping Hailey Dunn's mother cope in Colorado City

COLORADO CITY — Marc Klaas stayed close to Billie Jean Dunn on Thursday while helping to organize the search for her daughter Hailey Dunn, who has been missing for more than three weeks.

Klaas, the president and founder of the KlaasKids Foundation, is helping Billie Jean Dunn and her estranged husband, Clint Dunn, cope as they search for their daughter, who was reported missing Dec. 28. She reportedly last was seen the day before.

"I have been through what they are going through, and I can be an example of how you get through this," Klaas said. "I'm here to represent the end of the tunnel."

It has been almost 18 years since 12-year-old Polly Hannah Klaas was abducted from her home in Petaluma, Calif, on Oct. 1, 1993. She was found strangled two months later. In 1996, Richard Allen Davis was convicted of her murder and today remains on death row at San Quentin State Prison.

For Marc Klaas, the pain never goes away.

He knows all too well the sleepless nights, the constant anguish and the possibility of a long-term search. Polly Klaas' body was found 65 days after she disappeared.

But Marc Klaas' advice to Hailey Dunn's parents was to stay involved and stay busy — which is why he stuck close to Billie Jean Dunn on Thursday.

"I want to her to get out of her house and get her up to the search center," Klaas said.

Klaas accompanied Billie Jean Dunn to the weekly Lion's Club luncheon.

"We need to get our arms around the fact that this may go on for a while," Klaas told the group.

Billie Jean Dunn expressed gratitude for members' efforts on behalf of her daughter.

"I want to thank everyone for the donations, the searches, every thought and everything," she said.

In recent weeks, Billie Jean Dunn has stayed close to home and concentrated on getting her daughter's name out both locally and nationally. This week, she has made nightly appearances on "Nancy Grace," a prime-time show on HLN.

Polly Klaas' kidnapping drew thousands of volunteers and became a national story through exposure on shows such as "20/20" and "America's Most Wanted."

"Billie is spot on with this," Klaas said. "She understands she has to keep this case in the public eye,"

Clint Dunn has been following leads on potential sightings of his daughter and handing out fliers along Interstate 20.

"People are applauding Clint's efforts," Klaas said.

The main thing is to stay engaged, he said.

"They (the Dunns) have both found a way to participate that is within their comfort zone," Klaas said. "I've seen where one or both of the parents don't get involved and that leads to a lot of questions."

Klaas said there are parallels with his daughter's case beyond the close ages of the girls.

Investigators have named Shawn Adkins, the former live-in boyfriend of Billie Jean Dunn, as a suspect. When Polly Klaas went missing, her father was convinced he knew who had done it. But, he acknowledged Thursday, he was wrong.

"I had the motive figured out and everything going on," he said. "When the case was finally resolved they (investigators) were right — the guy had nothing to do with it."

So although the focus of Hailey Dunn's case appears to be on Adkins, Klaas cautioned that all leads must be followed.

"You can't allow yourself to get tunnel vision," Klaas said. "If you focus all your efforts in one direction, that girl may be driving around right in front of you."

Klaas said he was so touched by the Hailey Dunn case that he traveled to Colorado City to assist his foundation's director of search operations, Brad Dennis, with organizing the search for the Colorado Middle School student.

The Laura Recovery Center for Missing Children, a Texas-based group, also is helping to coordinate volunteers in searches for evidence.

"We can bring something to these cases, expertise, an example, and sometimes good results," Klaas said. "When I come to these, I feel like this is my purpose, this is how it started for me."

But he also brings hope.

"We are hoping to find a live little girl," Klaas said. "We have got to have hope

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/20/authories-now-searching-snyder-landfill-missing-co/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 10:46:38 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.

I do too. I think he is pushing her to say the right things, but she is very stiff with it. Tonight she spoke to Hailey for the first time I can remember. I am sure if I am wrong about that, someone will correct me. But I honestly haven't heard her make a plea to Hailey to stay strong and that her mother loves her and she can't wait till she is home.

I have heard mother's say they go in their missing child's room and smell their clothes and belongings. I have heard nothing close to that with her. Tonight all she could say is Hailey should call 911 because she doesn't have her cell phone. (Those mean police!) It always comes back to Billie.  ::MonkeyMad::

Fanny

What reason in the appeal should Billie have given Hailey for contacting 911 rather than attempting to contact her on the cell phone?

Billie was not blaming LE ... she was just stating a fact.  She did not have the cell phone.  IMO

Janet   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 10:46:54 PM

GRACE: To Billie Dunn. You believe -- you told me that she was wearing those earrings over Christmas. Did she spend the night with her father Christmas evening?

DUNN: She did.

GRACE: Are you absolutely positive she had the earrings on Sunday, the next day?

DUNN: No, I`m not.

GRACE: So him saying --

DUNN: I noticed that she had taken them out.

GRACE: Yes. So him saying she left it there Christmas night is entirely possible, correct?

DUNN: Yes.


------------------------------------------------------------------

GRACE: You know, that`s a very good point. But you`ve got to remember, the boyfriend places himself with Hailey around 3:00 after the neighbor sees her at 12:00. But speaking of that, back to Billie Dunn, Hailey`s mom, you`re actually more familiar than that than we are because we have gone around and tried to find that guy. We haven`t been able to find him. What do you know about him? Have police finally run him down?

DUNN: I know that they did question him well. They did search the house that he was living in here next door. They said they searched it well. He`s not a suspect. I don`t know if they know where he went to or not. I believe he`s still in town. And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.
   ::MonkeyEek:: I think even Nancy Grace was shocked.....http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.html

I wonder why the big deal about the earrings is she knew they had been taken out......I stay so confuzzled in this case, it's like a constant contradiction on soooooo many levels







Didn't she say last night on Nancy Grace she didn't notice whether Hailey had only one earring on or not when she came home from Clints?

That's what I thought, I swear I need to bookmark the transcripts as so much changes from one day to the next ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:47:16 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.

I do too. I think he is pushing her to say the right things, but she is very stiff with it. Tonight she spoke to Hailey for the first time I can remember. I am sure if I am wrong about that, someone will correct me. But I honestly haven't heard her make a plea to Hailey to stay strong and that her mother loves her and she can't wait till she is home.

I have heard mother's say they go in their missing child's room and smell their clothes and belongings. I have heard nothing close to that with her. Tonight all she could say is Hailey should call 911 because she doesn't have her cell phone. (Those mean police!) It always comes back to Billie.  ::MonkeyMad::

I don't think Clint every appealed to Hailey through the media?  I could be wrong.

Janet

But Clint hasn't been on national TV every day and night for three weeks. He was on Nancy Grace a couple of times with Billie. I have seen him on local news talking about Hailey and how bad he wants to find her. I think his actions speak louder than words. Not giving him a pass. Just seems he is more sincere in what he is doing. He even ask for donations for Billie and said he wanted nothing for himself.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:49:23 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.

I do too. I think he is pushing her to say the right things, but she is very stiff with it. Tonight she spoke to Hailey for the first time I can remember. I am sure if I am wrong about that, someone will correct me. But I honestly haven't heard her make a plea to Hailey to stay strong and that her mother loves her and she can't wait till she is home.

I have heard mother's say they go in their missing child's room and smell their clothes and belongings. I have heard nothing close to that with her. Tonight all she could say is Hailey should call 911 because she doesn't have her cell phone. (Those mean police!) It always comes back to Billie.  ::MonkeyMad::

Fanny

What reason in the appeal should Billie have given Hailey for contacting 911 rather than attempting to contact her on the cell phone?

Billie was not blaming LE ... she was just stating a fact.  She did not have the cell phone.  IMO

Janet   

Why wait for three plus weeks to even say that to Hailey? Wouldn't she have been concerned about that before?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:50:38 PM

GRACE: To Billie Dunn. You believe -- you told me that she was wearing those earrings over Christmas. Did she spend the night with her father Christmas evening?

DUNN: She did.

GRACE: Are you absolutely positive she had the earrings on Sunday, the next day?

DUNN: No, I`m not.

GRACE: So him saying --

DUNN: I noticed that she had taken them out.

GRACE: Yes. So him saying she left it there Christmas night is entirely possible, correct?

DUNN: Yes.


------------------------------------------------------------------

GRACE: You know, that`s a very good point. But you`ve got to remember, the boyfriend places himself with Hailey around 3:00 after the neighbor sees her at 12:00. But speaking of that, back to Billie Dunn, Hailey`s mom, you`re actually more familiar than that than we are because we have gone around and tried to find that guy. We haven`t been able to find him. What do you know about him? Have police finally run him down?

DUNN: I know that they did question him well. They did search the house that he was living in here next door. They said they searched it well. He`s not a suspect. I don`t know if they know where he went to or not. I believe he`s still in town. And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.
   ::MonkeyEek:: I think even Nancy Grace was shocked.....http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.html

I wonder why the big deal about the earrings is she knew they had been taken out......I stay so confuzzled in this case, it's like a constant contradiction on soooooo many levels







Didn't she say last night on Nancy Grace she didn't notice whether Hailey had only one earring on or not when she came home from Clints?

That's what I thought, I swear I need to bookmark the transcripts as so much changes from one day to the next ::MonkeyConfused::

Could we call that a little white lie, or a discrepancy in what she is saying from day to day?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 10:55:41 PM
JANET, I think we should stop doing this, going back and forth. I understand you have a different opinion of Billie than I do and I don't think we are going to change each other's mind. I don't want this to turn into another Haliegh or Kyron thread where everyone takes sides. Let's just agree to disagree. We both want the same thing, and I don't want to make this unpleasant for everyone else. I respect your opinion and anyone else who doesn't agree with me. I just want to remain friends. I'll do my best to stop cutting Billie down. Friends?  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 10:55:45 PM

GRACE: To Billie Dunn. You believe -- you told me that she was wearing those earrings over Christmas. Did she spend the night with her father Christmas evening?

DUNN: She did.

GRACE: Are you absolutely positive she had the earrings on Sunday, the next day?

DUNN: No, I`m not.

GRACE: So him saying --

DUNN: I noticed that she had taken them out.

GRACE: Yes. So him saying she left it there Christmas night is entirely possible, correct?

DUNN: Yes.


------------------------------------------------------------------

GRACE: You know, that`s a very good point. But you`ve got to remember, the boyfriend places himself with Hailey around 3:00 after the neighbor sees her at 12:00. But speaking of that, back to Billie Dunn, Hailey`s mom, you`re actually more familiar than that than we are because we have gone around and tried to find that guy. We haven`t been able to find him. What do you know about him? Have police finally run him down?

DUNN: I know that they did question him well. They did search the house that he was living in here next door. They said they searched it well. He`s not a suspect. I don`t know if they know where he went to or not. I believe he`s still in town. And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.
   ::MonkeyEek:: I think even Nancy Grace was shocked.....http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.html

I wonder why the big deal about the earrings is she knew they had been taken out......I stay so confuzzled in this case, it's like a constant contradiction on soooooo many levels







Didn't she say last night on Nancy Grace she didn't notice whether Hailey had only one earring on or not when she came home from Clints?

That's what I thought, I swear I need to bookmark the transcripts as so much changes from one day to the next ::MonkeyConfused::

Could we call that a little white lie, or a discrepancy in what she is saying from day to day?  ::MonkeyRoll::

jus a lil one........I don't know if she is just normally like that or what, it's just odd.

I found the info from last night, can't remember the nights when it was mentioned


BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been awesome.

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 11:01:41 PM
Reaching out to Hailey

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 20, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


DUNN: ... And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 20, 2011, 11:02:10 PM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.
Thanks HELPER ::MonkeyAngel::

Some how I knew Clint would be a proud stand up type of guy. I am not sure if you all saw his baby girl "Chloe" in photos, but she is just beautiful. She looks allot like Hailey to me. I don't think Hailey would have runaway. She was too excited about that new baby.

CARTFLY, is it you that your husband worked in the oil fields? I think I may have gotten you and LAKE ERIE PRINCESS mixed up.  ::MonkeyShocked::
You were right Fanny! Mine works in the oilfield also. But you were also right about LakeErie. She had some information about the industry as well. I asked my hubby about the pits. He knows a little about them. He is not on the job from start to finish but gave me a little info. The pits that are dug are about as deep as the oil/gas well during drilling.They could be as deep as 20 feet or so. After the rig is moved from the site (no more drilling to occur) he said the pits are covered and supposedly cleaned. He said some large machines come in and the pits are filled with dirt. The dirt is sifted through some sort of machine and put into the pit. When they leave the area is "supposed" to be clean and safe enough to plant a garden. So, most if not all well sites should not have any open pits left. I imagine the EPA or some similar agency <cough> monitors this. Not to say though there probably are sites (old ones) that may have a place to hide a body.

Fanny- nice maps too! I love your funny post. And yes you are more than just a pretty face! (rofl)::MonkeyWink::My kids run in wanting to know what I am laughing at all the time.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
Also, I forgot her friend on WS said they got her a replacement phone so technically she has one-just not one Hailey would have the number to.....also she is getting text messages from SA as she openly admits, I think you have to have a phone for a text message.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I am not sure about her, she obviously has issues with who to allow around her kids and an extreme lack of judgement and tonight on NG all she eeked out was "call 911 cause I don't have my cell phone"......I guess and I don't know why, but I expected some emotion....seems the only time I see emotion from her is when they mention SA. I do wonder if she has guilty knowledge and that is why she flunked the poly, it just seems she is so ga ga over SA, and it is a sharp dichotomy from how she acts when she speaks about Hailey~I wish I could say I felt different but I don't.

I don't think LE is sharing that much with her, IIRC LE called Clint to come look at the videos that day and not Billie......I think Mark is doing damage control to some degree IMO wrt Billie.

I would think that with all the years of experience (and, very unfortunately, his own personal experience) with missing children, that Mark Klaas would be able to assess these situations fairly accurately.  I've found it interesting that Mark Klaas has joined in on the search for Hailey and has been supportative of Billie.  I got to thinking about this after I saw Mark sitting beside Billie during NG's show last night. 

Billie is young.  She seems naive to me about all of this.  She lives with a guy who is only 25 and by looking at his videos is obviously immature.  I would think that Billie would have to be even more immature than her already "young" 33 years to live with a 25 year old man.  It's good that life has not previously dealt Billie any horrible experience; however, that obviously leaves her without the education to dealt with this...she's learning now...and will be forever changed.  I highly doubt that she's followed missing children's cases and become wisened to how all the many aspects in these cases works like all of us wise monkey sleuthers.  If she's innocent, someone like Mark Klaas is exactly what Billie needs.

Hopefully, she'll get her daughter back - as she said:  It's not feeling good right now that I'll ever be able to hold my daughter again.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 11:07:30 PM
Also, I forgot her friend on WS said they got her a replacement phone so technically she has one-just not one Hailey would have the number to.....also she is getting text messages from SA as she openly admits, I think you have to have a phone for a text message.

Yes, I've noticed that Billie is a woman of few words.  She talks in a kind of "shorthand". 

To make it simple for Hailey - I don't have my phone - call 911 (rather than I don't have the phone I used to have, but I have a different one, but since you don't know the number, you can call 911).  I think Billie did say "she knows that number" (meaning 911 and not the number of the new phone).


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Jan_in_Tx on January 20, 2011, 11:12:52 PM


FYI...kind of O/T and not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but there is another 13 year old girl missing from Lubbock, Tx last seen Jan 5th. All I have so far is this Facebook link 

facebook.com/find.elizabeth.ennen


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:15:59 PM

jus a lil one........I don't know if she is just normally like that or what, it's just odd.

I found the info from last night, can't remember the nights when it was mentioned


BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been awesome.

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It may have been on one of the local interviews she did, but I remember her saying she didn't notice whether Hailey was missing and earring when she came home from Clint's. Anyway, no more talking bad about Billie from me. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/images1.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 20, 2011, 11:17:01 PM
Does MK usually get directly involved w/ families?
Is this his usual behavior? or Is this a rare occurrence?

I read a bit about him on line but found no help w/ my questions.

His enmeshment w/ BD (IMO) seems a bit unprofessional to me, but I realize he is an activist more than a professional??

It seemed like BD had a paper to look down at to remind her to 'get a message out to Hailey", and that she glanced in MK's direction before 'saying her piece'.   I felt that the message to Hailey was contrived and BD seemed uncomfortable or like a little girl during a recital of some sort.

I am a bit put off by MK right now.  How does he think he is helping BD when it is so obvious that he suggested she speak directly to Hailey? 

Maybe I am overthinking the whole thing.

Hailey needs a few more 'grown-ups' directing the search for her.  LE seems oddly contradictory and disjointed and her family seems focused on things other than her, and I don't get NG or MK. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Jan_in_Tx on January 20, 2011, 11:17:24 PM


FYI...kind of O/T and not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but there is another 13 year old girl missing from Lubbock, Tx last seen Jan 5th. All I have so far is this Facebook link 

facebook.com/find.elizabeth.ennen

Sorry to post in Hailey's thread but thought it might be something due to C.C. and Lubbock only being 100 miles apart.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 11:20:56 PM
Also, I forgot her friend on WS said they got her a replacement phone so technically she has one-just not one Hailey would have the number to.....also she is getting text messages from SA as she openly admits, I think you have to have a phone for a text message.

Yes, I've noticed that Billie is a woman of few words.  She talks in a kind of "shorthand". 

To make it simple for Hailey - I don't have my phone - call 911 (rather than I don't have the phone I used to have, but I have a different one, but since you don't know the number, you can call 911).  I think Billie did say "she knows that number" (meaning 911 and not the number of the new phone).

No doubt about your previous post, I think he is going to help her alot in showing her how important it is that she shows a real connection to Hailey and one that connects with viewers, searchers etc because I fear when ppl don't connect they assume the worst sadly.......it wasn't the call 911 part that bothered me, but I would have loved to hear her say she loves her, misses her and can't wait to hug her again, paint their nails together- anything that shows her as more connected. As it is now, it appears she knows and she has appeared this way to me since the beginning that Hailey is NOT coming back, notice how she hung her head and read from the paper when she made this plea? It's what she doesn't say along with the body language. I pray with everything I have they find her alive, I am just not feeling a good outcome when you look at the bigger picture, and that is heart breaking for everyone that loves Hailey....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 11:21:23 PM
IMO, the most emotion I've seen from Billie is when she said last night that she wanted people to be looking for an "alive" Hailey.  She looked desparate for her daughter to be alive and angry that all that is being talked about is dead.  I don't blame her for that...it's been less than one month since Hailey went missing and after 7 months of Kyron missing both Kaine and Desiree are still talking as if Kyron's alive.

Another note, the map that Klaas put up showing where the house that Billie lives in - boy - that really does show how close the interstate is to that home.  I've heard that point mentioned on NG several times, but it hit home seeing the map.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 20, 2011, 11:21:48 PM
In the 911 tape played on NG SA says BD threatened to take all HIS Klonopin plus HER pain meds.

Here is some info on Klonopin from 

http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html

Abuse
•Klonopin is sometimes known by the street name "K-pin." Users compare the high to a drunk feeling. Users may eventually need to increase dosage to achieve the desired effect, risking overdose or potentially harmful side effects. Coma, impaired motor function, difficulty breathing, confusion, and nausea are all signs of overdose. Long-term users may experience withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, anxiety, hallucinations, psychosis, and anger. Withdrawal in heavy users can be deadly and a medical detox is highly recommended.


Read more: What Is the Abuse Potential Of Klonopin? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6515137_abuse-potential-klonopin_.html#ixzz1Bd26vVTX
And Klonopin is also a life savor for some people that experience terrible anxiety attacks.
Of course, No Rose!
I should have copied all the info about the drug instead of jumping to a conclusion about SA.  You are most surely right. 
I suffer from anxiety and have taken Ativan in the past.  Ativan and Klonopin are in the same family of drugs.
I meant no harm.
You would never mean any harm  ::MonkeyAngel::  I was just saying that for some people it is an excellent medication.
::MonkeyAngel::
So glad you didn't find my post offensive, NRCG.
I have to get better at posting.................and I promise I will.
Tol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:22:57 PM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.
Thanks HELPER ::MonkeyAngel::

Some how I knew Clint would be a proud stand up type of guy. I am not sure if you all saw his baby girl "Chloe" in photos, but she is just beautiful. She looks allot like Hailey to me. I don't think Hailey would have runaway. She was too excited about that new baby.

CARTFLY, is it you that your husband worked in the oil fields? I think I may have gotten you and LAKE ERIE PRINCESS mixed up.  ::MonkeyShocked::
You were right Fanny! Mine works in the oilfield also. But you were also right about LakeErie. She had some information about the industry as well. I asked my hubby about the pits. He knows a little about them. He is not on the job from start to finish but gave me a little info. The pits that are dug are about as deep as the oil/gas well during drilling.They could be as deep as 20 feet or so. After the rig is moved from the site (no more drilling to occur) he said the pits are covered and supposedly cleaned. He said some large machines come in and the pits are filled with dirt. The dirt is sifted through some sort of machine and put into the pit. When they leave the area is "supposed" to be clean and safe enough to plant a garden. So, most if not all well sites should not have any open pits left. I imagine the EPA or some similar agency <cough> monitors this. Not to say though there probably are sites (old ones) that may have a place to hide a body.

Fanny- nice maps too! I love your funny post. And yes you are more than just a pretty face! (rofl)::MonkeyWink::My kids run in wanting to know what I am laughing at all the time.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks CARTFLY! That helps. My question is the dry wells or the capped wells closed with a cap that could be removed with the right wrench? Could one person do it or would it take two? And is the pipe about 6"? I am thinking about the slashing, cutting movies Shawn was into, if you catch my drift.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on January 20, 2011, 11:26:28 PM
Fanny Mae My husband is not an oil well worker. I wish ! Perhaps we would live where it is
warmer if he were ! He is a supervisor in a salt mine, 1500' under Lake Erie, and ready to retire in 2 mo.
(Goody !)

What is the signifigance in your opinion of the red earring ?

Anyone have any idea WHY TES was not called in to
search for Haleigh ?

I have some very strong opinions regarding Billie, but will
try very hard to keep them under wrap until she hits fib 25, and then no promises ! ::piggy::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 11:26:38 PM
Also, I forgot her friend on WS said they got her a replacement phone so technically she has one-just not one Hailey would have the number to.....also she is getting text messages from SA as she openly admits, I think you have to have a phone for a text message.

Yes, I've noticed that Billie is a woman of few words.  She talks in a kind of "shorthand". 

To make it simple for Hailey - I don't have my phone - call 911 (rather than I don't have the phone I used to have, but I have a different one, but since you don't know the number, you can call 911).  I think Billie did say "she knows that number" (meaning 911 and not the number of the new phone).

No doubt about your previous post, I think he is going to help her alot in showing her how important it is that she shows a real connection to Hailey and one that connects with viewers, searchers etc because I fear when ppl don't connect they assume the worst sadly.......it wasn't the call 911 part that bothered me, but I would have loved to hear her say she loves her, misses her and can't wait to hug her again, paint their nails together- anything that shows her as more connected. As it is now, it appears she knows and she has appeared this way to me since the beginning that Hailey is NOT coming back, notice how she hung her head and read from the paper when she made this plea? It's what she doesn't say along with the body language. I pray with everything I have they find her alive, I am just not feeling a good outcome when you look at the bigger picture, and that is heart breaking for everyone that loves Hailey....

I agree with what you're saying.

I get aggravated with NG...who interrupts everytime someone else starts speaking...it's rare when we get to hear a whole sentence from the person she's questioning.  Also, in this case, I think there's a time delay in Billie hearing what NG says and they seem to be talking over each other a lot.  NG getting out her questions seems to be more important than hearing the answers.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 11:28:31 PM
Do I have this right?  Mark Klaas has brought his team to search for Hailey? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 20, 2011, 11:28:56 PM
I'm just jumping on, and haven't gone back to the last thread and don't know if this was discussed. I am often wrong and maybe I am this time, but did anyone else hear while Billie was recounting the day Hailey went missing that she said she noticed Hailey's bed had not been slept in?


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 12, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: I saw her Sunday night.

GRACE: What time, 10:00 PM?

BILLIE DUNN: Probably around 10:00.

GRACE: Now, was that when you looked in her room and it is was dark and you thought she was lying in her bed?

BILLIE DUNN: I did see her in her room, but I saw her watching TV.

Monday morning, I looked in her room and it was dark and it looked look she was laying in bed. But I didn`t go touch her, make sure that was her. I just peeked in to make sure she was in bed to ease my mind and...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html

That has always bothered me that she said she looked in her room to make sure she was okay.  Says so much to me.  Also, I had never heard until yesterday about her walking with a little boy around 7 or so.  They talked about it again tonight.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:29:19 PM


FYI...kind of O/T and not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but there is another 13 year old girl missing from Lubbock, Tx last seen Jan 5th. All I have so far is this Facebook link  

facebook.com/find.elizabeth.ennen

Sorry to post in Hailey's thread but thought it might be something due to C.C. and Lubbock only being 100 miles apart.


Thanks JAN_IN_TEXAS. I don't see a thread for her. I will see if I remember how to start one for her.

I just started on in Missing and Endangered Runaways


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tolerance on January 20, 2011, 11:31:40 PM

jus a lil one........I don't know if she is just normally like that or what, it's just odd.

I found the info from last night, can't remember the nights when it was mentioned


BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been awesome.

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It may have been on one of the local interviews she did, but I remember her saying she didn't notice whether Hailey was missing and earring when she came home from Clint's. Anyway, no more talking bad about Billie from me. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/images1.jpg)
I am still learning to keep my foot out of mouth while posting.....so take this for what it is worth:
 I don't find your observations to be 'bad mouthing' Billie.
I find them to be honest reactions to what you see, hear and infer.
Tol


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
Okay...so we're hearing that Hailey was seen walking around with a 7 y.o. boy (thought maybe to be the older child of Clint's girlfriend) and we have Clint's girlfriend first saying that Hailey was over that day and then later changing to say no she wasn't over that day.

What does all that mean?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 11:36:40 PM
Considering Billie had reported that she thought Hailey had been wearing the red hoop earrings when she disappeared ... considering the earring was found by David on the carpet at the home of his father ... it would appear that Clint's home was not searched by LE.

Think about it.  Shawn alleged that Hailey was on her way over to her father's home when she left her home at 3:15 PM on December 17th but ... in the process of elimination Clint has not been polygraphed and ... in the process of elimination his home was not searched.  What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


MICHAEL BOARD, WOAI NEWSRADIO: Nancy, the last person to see Hailey Dunn alive was her mother`s boyfriend. This was on December 27th at about 3:00 o`clock in the last -- 3:00 o`clock in the afternoon. Her mother`s boyfriend says that Hailey told him that she was going over to her father`s house and then over to a friend`s house. ...

GRACE: Mr. Dunn, did you know that Hailey was on her way over?

CLINT DUNN: No, I didn`t. ...

GRACE:  So Mr. Dunn, tell me your recollection of what happened the day she goes missing.

Did you see her at all that day?

CLINT DUNN: I didn`t see her at all that day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 20, 2011, 11:37:04 PM


FYI...kind of O/T and not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but there is another 13 year old girl missing from Lubbock, Tx last seen Jan 5th. All I have so far is this Facebook link 

facebook.com/find.elizabeth.ennen


Thanks!

I created a thread for her in Missing Endangered Runaways:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=64.0


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:41:06 PM


FYI...kind of O/T and not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but there is another 13 year old girl missing from Lubbock, Tx last seen Jan 5th. All I have so far is this Facebook link 

facebook.com/find.elizabeth.ennen


Thanks!

I created a thread for her in Missing Endangered Runaways:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=64.0

OOPS! I made one too. Would you delete mine?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 20, 2011, 11:42:14 PM
Considering Billie had reported that she thought Hailey had been wearing the red hoop earrings when she disappeared ... considering the earring was found by David on the carpet at the home of his father ... it would appear that Clint's home was not searched by LE.

Think about it.  Shawn alleged that Hailey was on her way over to her father's home when she left her home at 3:15 PM on December 17th but ... in the process of elimination Clint has not been polygraphed and ... in the process of elimination his home was not searched.  What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


MICHAEL BOARD, WOAI NEWSRADIO: Nancy, the last person to see Hailey Dunn alive was her mother`s boyfriend. This was on December 27th at about 3:00 o`clock in the last -- 3:00 o`clock in the afternoon. Her mother`s boyfriend says that Hailey told him that she was going over to her father`s house and then over to a friend`s house. ...

GRACE: Mr. Dunn, did you know that Hailey was on her way over?

CLINT DUNN: No, I didn`t. ...

GRACE:  So Mr. Dunn, tell me your recollection of what happened the day she goes missing.

Did you see her at all that day?

CLINT DUNN: I didn`t see her at all that day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


Janet - I hear  you!

Where is the searching with cadaver dogs around these homes?

I hope we're not hearing 3 weeks down the road from now that LE has decided to seach where Clint lived or to bring around cadaver dogs. 



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 20, 2011, 11:45:18 PM
I really do not think Billie had anything "directly" to do with the disappearance of Hailey. She is guilty of not having a strong "motherly instinct". I think she may have a drug problem (prescription or illegal) which certainly hindered her ability to make good decisions. She makes me mad as hell that she allowed an unstable SA to be in her life when all the clues were there. She chose him over her children. (he couldn't be that good in bed...) ::MonkeyDevil:: I think SA is the only one that knows where Hailey is.

It does bother me that she has not been very emotional and that she hasn't made any pleas to Hailey. I am not sure why. Could it be whatever drug of the day she is taking that she can not think clearly? She comes off as an airhead in the media.
But the thing is, she was at work when her child disappeared. All she has to go on is what SA and DD have told her. She only has 2nd hand information regarding Hailey which she repeats to Nancy/media and seems to mess up the stories that were told to her. She is young and naive and frankly does not know what to do. I guess what I am trying to say is that she is more accurate in her statements when she has experienced them first hand.
I think she has tried to be truthful even though she comes off as either really "dense/naive" or drugged. She should not be talking to NG if she is on any kind of sedative/pain killer, it just makes her look really bad. Plus the delay and constant interrupting of NG doesn't help Billie either. All JMO, of course.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 11:47:04 PM
Also, I forgot her friend on WS said they got her a replacement phone so technically she has one-just not one Hailey would have the number to.....also she is getting text messages from SA as she openly admits, I think you have to have a phone for a text message.

Yes, I've noticed that Billie is a woman of few words.  She talks in a kind of "shorthand". 

To make it simple for Hailey - I don't have my phone - call 911 (rather than I don't have the phone I used to have, but I have a different one, but since you don't know the number, you can call 911).  I think Billie did say "she knows that number" (meaning 911 and not the number of the new phone).

No doubt about your previous post, I think he is going to help her alot in showing her how important it is that she shows a real connection to Hailey and one that connects with viewers, searchers etc because I fear when ppl don't connect they assume the worst sadly.......it wasn't the call 911 part that bothered me, but I would have loved to hear her say she loves her, misses her and can't wait to hug her again, paint their nails together- anything that shows her as more connected. As it is now, it appears she knows and she has appeared this way to me since the beginning that Hailey is NOT coming back, notice how she hung her head and read from the paper when she made this plea? It's what she doesn't say along with the body language. I pray with everything I have they find her alive, I am just not feeling a good outcome when you look at the bigger picture, and that is heart breaking for everyone that loves Hailey....

I agree with what you're saying.

I get aggravated with NG...who interrupts everytime someone else starts speaking...it's rare when we get to hear a whole sentence from the person she's questioning.  Also, in this case, I think there's a time delay in Billie hearing what NG says and they seem to be talking over each other a lot.  NG getting out her questions seems to be more important than hearing the answers.

Oh NG drives me insane........if she would let her or any guest finish their answer maybe we'd learn something, heck I need a xanax just to watch her show. I guess hearing "I want ppl to look for a live Hailey" just reminds me of CIndy Anthony  ::pullinghairout:: Sorry that just bring the cynic side out of me, Cindy A ruined that for me since she knew all along that looking for a live Caylee would result in nothing......and I always thought she knew the truth so maybe I am tranferring my feelings of her onto Billie, I just can't shake the fact that she stated she loved Shawn in an interview but I can't recall hearing that about Hailey.

I totally thought this one case might be different, man was I so wrong in my assumptions.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 11:48:04 PM
JANET, I think we should stop doing this, going back and forth. I understand you have a different opinion of Billie than I do and I don't think we are going to change each other's mind. I don't want this to turn into another Haliegh or Kyron thread where everyone takes sides. Let's just agree to disagree. We both want the same thing, and I don't want to make this unpleasant for everyone else. I respect your opinion and anyone else who doesn't agree with me. I just want to remain friends. I'll do my best to stop cutting Billie down. Friends?  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny

I sincerely wanted to know wha part of Billie's appeal could be considered bashing.

What reason was Billie suppose to give to Hailey why she was not to call the cell phone?

Janet

+++++

Reaching out to Hailey

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 20, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


DUNN: ... And Nancy, I wanted to get a message out to Hailey, if she is watching and she happens to get to a phone, to call 911. Because I do not have my cell phone.

GRACE: And what is your message? To call 911?

DUNN: Yes. Get out there, if you can get to a phone, run to a phone and call 911. Because I don`t have my cell phone with me. And I know she knows that number.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:49:49 PM
Fanny Mae My husband is not an oil well worker. I wish ! Perhaps we would live where it is
warmer if he were ! He is a supervisor in a salt mine, 1500' under Lake Erie, and ready to retire in 2 mo.
(Goody !)

What is the signifigance in your opinion of the red earring ?

Anyone have any idea WHY TES was not called in to
search for Haleigh ?

I have some very strong opinions regarding Billie, but will
try very hard to keep them under wrap until she hits fib 25, and then no promises ! ::piggy::

I find it a non issue. There are so many ways that it could have been there. There was a statement today from the girlfriend saying  Hailey took them off while she was staying with them Christmas. It is posted here on the thread. She said Hailey asked her to put them away, and later the girlfriend could only find one. The second one was found later by Hailey's brother.

As far as TES, I have no idea. I do know they have been down in Florida searching for a missing girl.

Good for your husband! When my son drove a truck he picked up salt in Northern Ohio.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:50:24 PM
Fanny Mae My husband is not an oil well worker. I wish ! Perhaps we would live where it is
warmer if he were ! He is a supervisor in a salt mine, 1500' under Lake Erie, and ready to retire in 2 mo.
(Goody !)

What is the signifigance in your opinion of the red earring ?

Anyone have any idea WHY TES was not called in to
search for Haleigh ?

I have some very strong opinions regarding Billie, but will
try very hard to keep them under wrap until she hits fib 25, and then no promises ! ::piggy::

I find it a non issue. There are so many ways that it could have been there. There was a statement today from the girlfriend saying  Hailey took them off while she was staying with them Christmas. It is posted here on the thread. She said Hailey asked her to put them away, and later the girlfriend could only find one. The second one was found later by Hailey's brother.

As far as TES, I have no idea. I do know they have been down in Florida searching for a missing girl.

Good for your husband! When my son drove a truck he picked up salt in Northern Ohio.

By the way, I could list 25 fibs.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 11:50:27 PM
Considering Billie had reported that she thought Hailey had been wearing the red hoop earrings when she disappeared ... considering the earring was found by David on the carpet at the home of his father ... it would appear that Clint's home was not searched by LE.

Think about it.  Shawn alleged that Hailey was on her way over to her father's home when she left her home at 3:15 PM on December 17th but ... in the process of elimination Clint has not been polygraphed and ... in the process of elimination his home was not searched.  What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


MICHAEL BOARD, WOAI NEWSRADIO: Nancy, the last person to see Hailey Dunn alive was her mother`s boyfriend. This was on December 27th at about 3:00 o`clock in the last -- 3:00 o`clock in the afternoon. Her mother`s boyfriend says that Hailey told him that she was going over to her father`s house and then over to a friend`s house. ...

GRACE: Mr. Dunn, did you know that Hailey was on her way over?

CLINT DUNN: No, I didn`t. ...

GRACE:  So Mr. Dunn, tell me your recollection of what happened the day she goes missing.

Did you see her at all that day?

CLINT DUNN: I didn`t see her at all that day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 20, 2011, 11:51:57 PM
Do I have this right?  Mark Klaas has brought his team to search for Hailey? 

He did, I know Brad Dennis from P-Cola is there with his search team, and IIRC TES is in Florida searching last I heard


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:53:14 PM

jus a lil one........I don't know if she is just normally like that or what, it's just odd.

I found the info from last night, can't remember the nights when it was mentioned


BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been awesome.

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It may have been on one of the local interviews she did, but I remember her saying she didn't notice whether Hailey was missing and earring when she came home from Clint's. Anyway, no more talking bad about Billie from me. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/images1.jpg)
I am still learning to keep my foot out of mouth while posting.....so take this for what it is worth:
 I don't find your observations to be 'bad mouthing' Billie.
I find them to be honest reactions to what you see, hear and infer.
Tol

Thanks TOL. Maybe I have been harsh on Billie. I'm not changing my mind, I just don't want to make anyone uncomfortable and I could see it heading that way. I will be the first to apologize to Billie if it turns out she is just a missing child's mother.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 20, 2011, 11:53:40 PM
I know that I am in the minority here but I really don't think that Billie had anything to do with her daughters disappearance. I think that because LE are telling her things that it says a lot. I know that she flunked a poly and all but I don't think the poly guy knew what he was doing. I'm hoping that Marc Klaas maybe gets someone to re-poly her.

I don't think you are in the minority here as there are many Monkeys that think the way you do. And it's ok with me and probably everyone else that you all feel that way. I am so vocal about Billie, because I have processed the evidence in a different way than you have. It's possible the polygraph operator read the LDT incorrectly as it has happened before. They are not foolproof. But that would push me to get another operator to give me one ASAP. If I felt like I was truthful, wild horses couldn't stop me till I cleared myself.

What I don't get, is why she thought if Shawn failed his poly, she was willing to believe he was untruthful. But in the next breath she says she doesn't trust polygraphs.  Color me confused.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I'm with you FM


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 20, 2011, 11:54:17 PM
I believe that location that the 2:00 PM text originated is the the catalyst that will  reveal Shawn's guilt or innocence.

Janet

++++++

The December 27th 2:00 PM Text Message

NANCY GRACE
Mystery Text in Missing Hailey Dunn Case
Aired January 18, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: And back to you, Alexis Weed. The pings off the boyfriend`s cell phone -- and everybody, I`m just asking questions about this live-in boyfriend. He`s now moved out. Billie Dunn told him to leave. He has apparently cut off contact to her. I`m not saying he`s the only person that should be looked at, but I`ve got a lot of questions about his behavior.

Alexis Weed, I want to talk very quickly -- let me see the map, Liz, of the pings. Do the pings tell us where he was at 2:00 PM that day?

WEED: They tell us that between the hours of 9:38 in the morning and 2:40 in the afternoon, that Shawn Adkins was pinging around the Big Spring, Texas, area. That`s where his grandmother lives. But before that, Nancy, between the hours of 6:35 and 6:56 in the morning, that`s when he was pinging around Colorado City where Hailey`s -- Hailey`s home is located.

GRACE: So at 2:40 PM, I`ve still got him at his mother`s house, right?

WEED: Right.

GRACE: Now, question. Back to you, Jean Casarez. Let`s talk about this 2:00 PM text from Hailey`s phone. Where did it ping? Where did it ping?

CASAREZ: That`s very interesting. Where did it ping from? We don`t know.

GRACE: Because, listen, you see where I`m going, Jean.

CASAREZ: Yes, I do.

GRACE: If the boyfriend had Hailey`s phone and he was faking that text, this innocuous, generic text, What are you doing, to a little friend of hers, he could have gotten that friend`s name out of the phone directory, if she had it in the -- it was a disposable phone. How do I know he didn`t send that? And if he did, where was he? If he was at his mom`s until 2:40, did that cell ping, that text ping from where his mother lived? Because if it did, he`s in a lot of trouble, Jean.

CASAREZ: That`s right. And otherwise, if it didn`t, if it pinged from the home in Colorado City, then maybe little Hailey Dunn was alive at that point.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html


Why has the origin of the text sent to Mary Beth from Hailey's cell phone not been revealed?

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 20, 2011, 11:55:45 PM


I think what Billie is guilty of is being drugged, naive, gullible and needy, but not harming her daughter.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 20, 2011, 11:58:03 PM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 21, 2011, 12:00:11 AM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.
Thanks HELPER ::MonkeyAngel::

Some how I knew Clint would be a proud stand up type of guy. I am not sure if you all saw his baby girl "Chloe" in photos, but she is just beautiful. She looks allot like Hailey to me. I don't think Hailey would have runaway. She was too excited about that new baby.

CARTFLY, is it you that your husband worked in the oil fields? I think I may have gotten you and LAKE ERIE PRINCESS mixed up.  ::MonkeyShocked::
You were right Fanny! Mine works in the oilfield also. But you were also right about LakeErie. She had some information about the industry as well. I asked my hubby about the pits. He knows a little about them. He is not on the job from start to finish but gave me a little info. The pits that are dug are about as deep as the oil/gas well during drilling.They could be as deep as 20 feet or so. After the rig is moved from the site (no more drilling to occur) he said the pits are covered and supposedly cleaned. He said some large machines come in and the pits are filled with dirt. The dirt is sifted through some sort of machine and put into the pit. When they leave the area is "supposed" to be clean and safe enough to plant a garden. So, most if not all well sites should not have any open pits left. I imagine the EPA or some similar agency <cough> monitors this. Not to say though there probably are sites (old ones) that may have a place to hide a body.

Fanny- nice maps too! I love your funny post. And yes you are more than just a pretty face! (rofl)::MonkeyWink::My kids run in wanting to know what I am laughing at all the time.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks CARTFLY! That helps. My question is the dry wells or the capped wells closed with a cap that could be removed with the right wrench? Could one person do it or would it take two? And is the pipe about 6"? I am thinking about the slashing, cutting movies Shawn was into, if you catch my drift.  ::MonkeyWaa::
I will ask hubby in the morning (he's the early bird, I'm the night owl), LOL
But I will get back to you with those questions. From what I have seen, the tools used (wrench) are huge and IMO would need more than one person but I will ask to be sure. I am not positive but I thought he had mentioned that they were cemented at some point during the capping process.
Originally, I thought you were wondering about the waste water pits on the drill sites someone had mentioned on here. Anyway, I  will grill him in the AM.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 21, 2011, 12:02:37 AM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~Thanks FM!!! I meant is that considered alot of pot, like one joint two or a dozen? I guess I could call the family pothead and find out, but don't really want too!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: nicubird on January 21, 2011, 12:05:19 AM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~Thanks FM!!! I meant is that considered alot of pot, like one joint two or a dozen? I guess I could call the family pothead and find out, but don't really want too!

If these Yahoo posters are accurate 2 grams equals one big fatty or 2-3 joints. There is a stimulating debate on how much one uses in a joint.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080211070627AAGCH69


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 12:06:16 AM
Considering Billie had reported that she thought Hailey had been wearing the red hoop earrings when she disappeared ... considering the earring was found by David on the carpet at the home of his father ... it would appear that Clint's home was not searched by LE.

Think about it.  Shawn alleged that Hailey was on her way over to her father's home when she left her home at 3:15 PM on December 17th but ... in the process of elimination Clint has not been polygraphed and ... in the process of elimination his home was not searched.  What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


MICHAEL BOARD, WOAI NEWSRADIO: Nancy, the last person to see Hailey Dunn alive was her mother`s boyfriend. This was on December 27th at about 3:00 o`clock in the last -- 3:00 o`clock in the afternoon. Her mother`s boyfriend says that Hailey told him that she was going over to her father`s house and then over to a friend`s house. ...

GRACE: Mr. Dunn, did you know that Hailey was on her way over?

CLINT DUNN: No, I didn`t. ...

GRACE:  So Mr. Dunn, tell me your recollection of what happened the day she goes missing.

Did you see her at all that day?

CLINT DUNN: I didn`t see her at all that day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

If there was a search of Clint's apartment ... why did LE failed to find the red hoop earring in the carpet ... the red hoop earring that Billie had reported that she thought Hailey was wearing when she went missing ... the red hoop earring found by Hailey's brother?

Janet

+++++

Hailey Dunn's brother no longer staying at home in Colorado City
By Celinda Emison
Updated Wednesday, January 19, 2011


Grace said one of the earrings that Hailey was reported to be wearing when she disappeared was found in Clint Dunn's home after her disappearance.

Clint Dunn and his girlfriend, Naomi Stewart, told the Reporter-News that Hailey had spent Christmas night at Clint Dunn's home.

"She took off those earrings and dropped them by the couch and asked me to put them up for her," Stewart said. "She asked me to pick them up for her, and I only found one of them."

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/19/official-rumor-untrue-missing-colorado-city-teen-h/


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 21, 2011, 12:06:48 AM
Do I have this right?  Mark Klaas has brought his team to search for Hailey? 

He did, I know Brad Dennis from P-Cola is there with his search team, and IIRC TES is in Florida searching last I heard

IM - TY



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 21, 2011, 12:10:55 AM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~Thanks FM!!! I meant is that considered alot of pot, like one joint two or a dozen? I guess I could call the family pothead and find out, but don't really want too!

If these Yahoo posters are accurate 2 grams equals one big fatty or 2-3 joints. There is a stimulating debate on how much one uses in a joint.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080211070627AAGCH69

Thanks.......so one big fat doobie (as Nancy calls them).......not sure I even want to venture over to find out how much too use, but thanks for the info!

Janet~ I don't know, I am not sure to what extent they searched or what if anything they were looking for specifically...

Puzzler~ YW


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:10:55 AM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~Thanks FM!!! I meant is that considered alot of pot, like one joint two or a dozen? I guess I could call the family pothead and find out, but don't really want too!
http://www.marijuana.com/strains-definitions/42311-how-many-grams-joint-few-other-questions.html

out of a gram you should be able to get 3 mid-sized/2 good sized one paper joints.

I can't believe I'm posting this.....BTW 2 grams is illegal in Texas.   My son is not going to believe this. I am glad he is already asleep.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 21, 2011, 12:14:36 AM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~Thanks FM!!! I meant is that considered alot of pot, like one joint two or a dozen? I guess I could call the family pothead and find out, but don't really want too!
http://www.marijuana.com/strains-definitions/42311-how-many-grams-joint-few-other-questions.html

out of a gram you should be able to get 3 mid-sized/2 good sized one paper joints.

I can't believe I'm posting this.....BTW 2 grams is illegal in Texas.   My son is not going to believe this. I am glad he is already asleep.  ::MonkeyCool::

Well at least you don't have an family authority on it like I do .....I just refuse to call him about it!

Also, I read today that the dogs that were brought in were from Huntsville,TX prison, that is where death row is in Texas (and all the cheerleading camps for 7th-12th graders), used to scare me to death to be there at Sam Houston State when one would escape.

I am wondering if they are better trained than any other SAR/Cadaver/HDD's.....just one more thing that piqued my curiosity.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 21, 2011, 12:17:10 AM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~Thanks FM!!! I meant is that considered alot of pot, like one joint two or a dozen? I guess I could call the family pothead and find out, but don't really want too!

If these Yahoo posters are accurate 2 grams equals one big fatty or 2-3 joints. There is a stimulating debate on how much one uses in a joint.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080211070627AAGCH69
Thanks Nicubird for the link. I tried the stuff back in the day but would have no idea how much goes in a joint. It would be like cooking to me...a pinch of this would be enough.
OT -Is the cat doing better?)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 21, 2011, 12:18:26 AM
This is the video I was talking about..........my heart does break for Billie, Clint and everyone. If you watch, grab a kleenex

http://www.youtube.com/embed/GT9uQ2KzUkI?rel=0

I wish I could remember how to embed this one....... ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 12:18:42 AM
I remain bloodied but unbowed.

It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Although the area is vast ... I believe the search for Hailey's remains should be focused along the route Shawn drove from Colorado City to Big Spring.

Good Night All.

Janet



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:18:48 AM
it is 50 50 really alot of churches helping and shops donating work for cars etc... but from my understanding with Clint he doesn't want money just supplies and for Billie a fund at a bank was being setup to donate money.
Thanks HELPER ::MonkeyAngel::

Some how I knew Clint would be a proud stand up type of guy. I am not sure if you all saw his baby girl "Chloe" in photos, but she is just beautiful. She looks allot like Hailey to me. I don't think Hailey would have runaway. She was too excited about that new baby.

CARTFLY, is it you that your husband worked in the oil fields? I think I may have gotten you and LAKE ERIE PRINCESS mixed up.  ::MonkeyShocked::
You were right Fanny! Mine works in the oilfield also. But you were also right about LakeErie. She had some information about the industry as well. I asked my hubby about the pits. He knows a little about them. He is not on the job from start to finish but gave me a little info. The pits that are dug are about as deep as the oil/gas well during drilling.They could be as deep as 20 feet or so. After the rig is moved from the site (no more drilling to occur) he said the pits are covered and supposedly cleaned. He said some large machines come in and the pits are filled with dirt. The dirt is sifted through some sort of machine and put into the pit. When they leave the area is "supposed" to be clean and safe enough to plant a garden. So, most if not all well sites should not have any open pits left. I imagine the EPA or some similar agency <cough> monitors this. Not to say though there probably are sites (old ones) that may have a place to hide a body.

Fanny- nice maps too! I love your funny post. And yes you are more than just a pretty face! (rofl)::MonkeyWink::My kids run in wanting to know what I am laughing at all the time.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks CARTFLY! That helps. My question is the dry wells or the capped wells closed with a cap that could be removed with the right wrench? Could one person do it or would it take two? And is the pipe about 6"? I am thinking about the slashing, cutting movies Shawn was into, if you catch my drift.  ::MonkeyWaa::
I will ask hubby in the morning (he's the early bird, I'm the night owl), LOL
But I will get back to you with those questions. From what I have seen, the tools used (wrench) are huge and IMO would need more than one person but I will ask to be sure. I am not positive but I thought he had mentioned that they were cemented at some point during the capping process.
Originally, I thought you were wondering about the waste water pits on the drill sites someone had mentioned on here. Anyway, I  will grill him in the AM.

Really, I was interested in the pits to begin with. When I couldn't find the info about them on the map, I turned to the oil wells. I think cement is used too. I was wondering about the dry wells, where no oil was found, and if they would be cemented before they were capped too. Thanks for your help. I knew you would be a wealth of information.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:19:57 AM
I remain bloodied but unbowed.

It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Although the area is vast ... I believe the search for Hailey's remains should be focused along the route Shawn drove from Colorado City to Big Spring.

Good Night All.

Janet



And on all of this, we can agree. Good night JANET.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 21, 2011, 12:22:11 AM
I read on another forum that they thought they had read that Clint worked for the waste collection company.  Does anyone know if this is true as they did not post a liink.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: nicubird on January 21, 2011, 12:24:29 AM

Thanks Nicubird for the link. I tried the stuff back in the day but would have no idea how much goes in a joint. It would be like cooking to me...a pinch of this would be enough.
OT -Is the cat doing better?)

I wonder how we all survived before Google?! You're welcome for the link.

(The cat has made an amazing, nearly miraculous recovery. Thank you for asking)



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:25:41 AM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~Thanks FM!!! I meant is that considered alot of pot, like one joint two or a dozen? I guess I could call the family pothead and find out, but don't really want too!
http://www.marijuana.com/strains-definitions/42311-how-many-grams-joint-few-other-questions.html

out of a gram you should be able to get 3 mid-sized/2 good sized one paper joints.

I can't believe I'm posting this.....BTW 2 grams is illegal in Texas.   My son is not going to believe this. I am glad he is already asleep.  ::MonkeyCool::

Well at least you don't have an family authority on it like I do .....I just refuse to call him about it!

Also, I read today that the dogs that were brought in were from Huntsville,TX prison, that is where death row is in Texas (and all the cheerleading camps for 7th-12th graders), used to scare me to death to be there at Sam Houston State when one would escape.

I am wondering if they are better trained than any other SAR/Cadaver/HDD's.....just one more thing that piqued my curiosity.
I would have thought Huntsville would have bloodhounds and not cadaver dogs.  :smt102


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 21, 2011, 12:25:49 AM

I thought they did search his apt, remember he was arrested for pot possesion (2 grams) IIRC.....if my brother was around I could ask is that alot of pot?? I am clueless, but I do remember that so I know they searched it. To what extent, that I am clueless about.......maybe not with cadaver dogs

1 gram = 0.035273962 ounces.

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL~Thanks FM!!! I meant is that considered alot of pot, like one joint two or a dozen? I guess I could call the family pothead and find out, but don't really want too!

If these Yahoo posters are accurate 2 grams equals one big fatty or 2-3 joints. There is a stimulating debate on how much one uses in a joint.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080211070627AAGCH69
Thanks Nicubird for the link. I tried the stuff back in the day but would have no idea how much goes in a joint. It would be like cooking to me...a pinch of this would be enough.
OT -Is the cat doing better?)

I think the stuff is different today than it was back in the day...at least that is what I have heard. (a little goes a long way)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:26:53 AM

Thanks Nicubird for the link. I tried the stuff back in the day but would have no idea how much goes in a joint. It would be like cooking to me...a pinch of this would be enough.
OT -Is the cat doing better?)

I wonder how we all survived before Google?! You're welcome for the link.

(The cat has made an amazing, nearly miraculous recovery. Thank you for asking)



Thank God, NICBIRD.I was wondering myself.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 21, 2011, 12:27:30 AM
I remain bloodied but unbowed.

It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Although the area is vast ... I believe the search for Hailey's remains should be focused along the route Shawn drove from Colorado City to Big Spring.

Good Night All.

Janet


wrt the "text" message. Media keeps saying "Hailey's phone. Do they mean Bille's phone or Hailey's IPOd which is capable of sending text messages for free but it is not a phone per say. I have read so much that I am not clear on that.
Thanks for all of your input and insight Janet.  ::MonkeyAngel:: Goodnite


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 21, 2011, 12:27:55 AM
I remain bloodied but unbowed.

It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Although the area is vast ... I believe the search for Hailey's remains should be focused along the route Shawn drove from Colorado City to Big Spring.

Good Night All.

Janet



Sadly Janet I agree with you


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:27:55 AM
I read on another forum that they thought they had read that Clint worked for the waste collection company.  Does anyone know if this is true as they did not post a liink.

I haven't heard that GRANDMA2MADDIE.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 21, 2011, 12:28:26 AM
I remain bloodied but unbowed.

It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Although the area is vast ... I believe the search for Hailey's remains should be focused along the route Shawn drove from Colorado City to Big Spring.

Good Night All.

Janet



And on all of this, we can agree. Good night JANET.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thank you ...that what I was asking. I agree too.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:31:05 AM
I remain bloodied but unbowed.

It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Although the area is vast ... I believe the search for Hailey's remains should be focused along the route Shawn drove from Colorado City to Big Spring.

Good Night All.

Janet


wrt the "text" message. Media keeps saying "Hailey's phone. Do they mean Bille's phone or Hailey's IPOd which is capable of sending text messages for free but it is not a phone per say. I have read so much that I am not clear on that.
Thanks for all of your input and insight Janet.  ::MonkeyAngel:: Goodnite

I believe it was on Billie's cell phone she left for the kids to use. I don't think they have a land line.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on January 21, 2011, 12:31:38 AM
I read on another forum that they thought they had read that Clint worked for the waste collection company.  Does anyone know if this is true as they did not post a liink.

I haven't heard that GRANDMA2MADDIE.
Probably a rumor.  I would think that would have came out by now.  I'm keeping an eye on it so if they post a link I can copy it. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 21, 2011, 12:32:46 AM
I remain bloodied but unbowed.

It is my belief that the Hailey sightings are non-issues.  It is my belief that the author of the 2:00 PM text to Mary Beth was not Hailey and did not originate from Colorado City.

In other words ... it is my belief that a deceased Hailey was taken from her bed ... taken from her home by Shawn sometime shortly after 6:30 AM on the morning of December 27th.

Although the area is vast ... I believe the search for Hailey's remains should be focused along the route Shawn drove from Colorado City to Big Spring.

Good Night All.

Janet



Sadly Janet I agree with you

Me too, that is why I think they never released the ping info for anyone's phone but SA's, I think it would show the ping on that 2pm text in Big Spring or somewhere in that general area ::MonkeyNoNo::

These are the screen grabs I spoke about in that video where it looks like Clint Dunn didn't want to let this searcher go, like he was someone he could lean on.....it touched me




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 21, 2011, 12:34:38 AM
Also, I forgot her friend on WS said they got her a replacement phone so technically she has one-just not one Hailey would have the number to.....also she is getting text messages from SA as she openly admits, I think you have to have a phone for a text message.

Yes, I've noticed that Billie is a woman of few words.  She talks in a kind of "shorthand". 

To make it simple for Hailey - I don't have my phone - call 911 (rather than I don't have the phone I used to have, but I have a different one, but since you don't know the number, you can call 911).  I think Billie did say "she knows that number" (meaning 911 and not the number of the new phone).

No doubt about your previous post, I think he is going to help her alot in showing her how important it is that she shows a real connection to Hailey and one that connects with viewers, searchers etc because I fear when ppl don't connect they assume the worst sadly.......it wasn't the call 911 part that bothered me, but I would have loved to hear her say she loves her, misses her and can't wait to hug her again, paint their nails together- anything that shows her as more connected. As it is now, it appears she knows and she has appeared this way to me since the beginning that Hailey is NOT coming back, notice how she hung her head and read from the paper when she made this plea? It's what she doesn't say along with the body language. I pray with everything I have they find her alive, I am just not feeling a good outcome when you look at the bigger picture, and that is heart breaking for everyone that loves Hailey....

You are right on the mark.
I was hoping that she'd say something directly to Haleigh, to the effect that she loves and misses her, but she was a total blank.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:47:31 AM
Those pictures of Clint are touching, heartrending and painful to look at. Oh my God, I wish and pray Hailey could come home safely.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 21, 2011, 12:47:54 AM
Ok, now you could officially knock me over with a feather   THUD>>>>>>.





Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim5.0000/5 ratingPrint ArticleReported by: Tiffany Tatro and Austin Kellerman
Thursday, January 20 2011
   More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.
"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.
"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586

BRB~I need a shot of Patron ASAP


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 01:40:24 AM
Ok, now you could officially knock me over with a feather   THUD>>>>>>.





Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim5.0000/5 ratingPrint ArticleReported by: Tiffany Tatro and Austin Kellerman
Thursday, January 20 2011
   More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.
"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.
"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586

BRB~I need a shot of Patron ASAP


 ::MonkeyNoNo::


It's Devastating!

Dr. Phil - January 29, 2006

Beth Holloway: There are times when we're thinking that we need to continue, and of course we're still searching for answers, but it's this rollercoaster ride. And it makes me so angry, Dr. Phil, when I let myself fall for information coming out of an official who represents the island of Aruba. If somebody presents you with false hope and false information, it's devastating.

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/3041/?id=1&slide=3&null=null


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 01:40:45 AM
Ok, now you could officially knock me over with a feather   THUD>>>>>>.





Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim5.0000/5 ratingPrint ArticleReported by: Tiffany Tatro and Austin Kellerman
Thursday, January 20 2011
   More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.
"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.
"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586

BRB~I need a shot of Patron ASAP

Make that two/ a double.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/bf-hamerhead.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 01:43:24 AM
Ok, now you could officially knock me over with a feather   THUD>>>>>>.





Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim5.0000/5 ratingPrint ArticleReported by: Tiffany Tatro and Austin Kellerman
Thursday, January 20 2011
   More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.
"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.
"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586

BRB~I need a shot of Patron ASAP


 ::MonkeyNoNo::


It's Devastating!

Dr. Phil - January 29, 2006

Beth Holloway: There are times when we're thinking that we need to continue, and of course we're still searching for answers, but it's this rollercoaster ride. And it makes me so angry, Dr. Phil, when I let myself fall for information coming out of an official who represents the island of Aruba. If somebody presents you with false hope and false information, it's devastating.

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/3041/?id=1&slide=3&null=null


Do you think Mark is giving Billie false hope?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 01:48:48 AM
I watched the repeat of the Nancy Grace Show (HLN).  Marc Klaas has been an ongoing  talking head on this show since the disappearance of Hailey.  He knows the deception encompassing Shawn's words and actions on the morning of December 27th.  The false hope that he is affording a desperate vulnerable Billie is cruel.

Until one hour ago ... I considered Marc a hero ... a voice of reason.  His judgement has become clouded.  Why?

 ::MonkeyTears::

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 21, 2011, 02:07:50 AM

Thanks Nicubird for the link. I tried the stuff back in the day but would have no idea how much goes in a joint. It would be like cooking to me...a pinch of this would be enough.
OT -Is the cat doing better?)

I wonder how we all survived before Google?! You're welcome for the link.

(The cat has made an amazing, nearly miraculous recovery. Thank you for asking)



Thanks for the update on the kitty!  I'm so glad to hear that something so wonderful happened.  :D


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 21, 2011, 02:08:25 AM
Ok, now you could officially knock me over with a feather   THUD>>>>>>.





Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim5.0000/5 ratingPrint ArticleReported by: Tiffany Tatro and Austin Kellerman
Thursday, January 20 2011
   More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.
"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.
"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586

BRB~I need a shot of Patron ASAP


 ::MonkeyNoNo::


It's Devastating!

Dr. Phil - January 29, 2006

Beth Holloway: There are times when we're thinking that we need to continue, and of course we're still searching for answers, but it's this rollercoaster ride. And it makes me so angry, Dr. Phil, when I let myself fall for information coming out of an official who represents the island of Aruba. If somebody presents you with false hope and false information, it's devastating.

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/3041/?id=1&slide=3&null=null


Do you think Mark is giving Billie false hope?

Yes & Im disgusted with his lack of judgment in this case, totally overlooking that this chick was a rotten misguided mother to begin with....I make no apologies she is the scum of the earth to me, not too far off from that psycho slug she slept with for 2 1/2 years even though her daughter was afraid of him.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 21, 2011, 02:09:34 AM

Thanks Nicubird for the link. I tried the stuff back in the day but would have no idea how much goes in a joint. It would be like cooking to me...a pinch of this would be enough.
OT -Is the cat doing better?)

I wonder how we all survived before Google?! You're welcome for the link.

(The cat has made an amazing, nearly miraculous recovery. Thank you for asking)



Thanks for the update on the kitty!  I'm so glad to hear that something so wonderful happened.  :D

Woo hoo!  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 02:11:01 AM
I watched the repeat of the Nancy Grace Show (HLN).  Marc Klaas has been an ongoing  talking head on this show since the disappearance of Hailey.  He knows the deception encompassing Shawn's words and actions on the morning of December 27th.  The false hope that he is affording a desperate vulnerable Billie is cruel.

Until one hour ago ... I considered Marc a hero ... a voice of reason.  His judgement has become clouded.  Why?

 ::MonkeyTears::

Janet

Please don''t cry JANET. I was questioning what Mark was doing earlier myself. Some one else wondered if Billie reminded him of his dead daughter who would be about Billie's age. I think he is doing some spin and telling her she needs to go speak to the searchers, and wrote that thing to tell Hailey about the cell phone and to call 911.  I think he is doing some damage control for her. But I don't think he really thinks Hailey is alive and coming home. His people are doing the searching out in the vastness of the area. I guess he is just holding her together now, knowing full well there is probably soon to be a bad fall. He may just feel sorry for her. She did sound more positive about Hailey being alive and I think she has been given some pep talks. It really doesn't sound like the Mark Klaas I remember to be criticizing the LE during an active investigation. I was shocked when he first started doing it on Nancy Grace's show. I don't really know what is clouding his judgement.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 21, 2011, 02:16:34 AM

Thanks Nicubird for the link. I tried the stuff back in the day but would have no idea how much goes in a joint. It would be like cooking to me...a pinch of this would be enough.
OT -Is the cat doing better?)

I wonder how we all survived before Google?! You're welcome for the link.

(The cat has made an amazing, nearly miraculous recovery. Thank you for asking)


*Best news I have heard all week!! Love those fur babies :)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 02:20:45 AM
I just looked out our back door. All the shoveling we did today was for nothing. The wind is now blowing a gale and now all the snow is banking up everywhere. Our courtyard is twice as deep as it was, and piling up against the sliding glass door. I guess I will go to bed dreaming of (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/snowshovel.gif)

GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/th2d1pnih.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 21, 2011, 02:22:43 AM


FYI...kind of O/T and not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but there is another 13 year old girl missing from Lubbock, Tx last seen Jan 5th. All I have so far is this Facebook link 

facebook.com/find.elizabeth.ennen


Thanks!

I created a thread for her in Missing Endangered Runaways:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=64.0
Lubbock is about an hour from CCity right? I find this disturbing and it does not sound like a run away to me. What the heck is going on? She has been missing since Jan 5 and again LE calls it a runaway and we are just hearing about this now. Why is Texas so quick to call so many cases a "runaway"?  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cartfly on January 21, 2011, 02:23:45 AM
Goodnight Fanny Mae!!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 21, 2011, 02:25:21 AM
Hailey Suspect to 911: Billie Says She Wants to Die (with vides, the newly released 911 call and the other 3 - 911 calls)

Colorado City, TX -   KTAB News has obtained a fourth 911 call stemming from a February 2010 domestic dispute during which, according to police affidavits, Shawn Adkins allegedly threatened to kill 13-year-old Hailey Dunn and her mother.
Adkins is the boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Dunn, and the only confirmed suspect in the girl’s disappearance. According to police, Adkins was the last person to see Hailey on December 27: the day she went missing.

According to search warrant affidavits filed after Hailey's disappearance, Adkins admitted to investigators that he threatened the lives of both Billie and Hailey during a domestic dispute.

In the newly released call, Adkins calls Snyder Police on the afternoon of February 14 and reports Billie Dunn as "suicidal."



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Click here to listen to the newly released 911 call in its entirety
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617736

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In the call, Adkins calls himself Billie's ex-boyfriend and claims to be concerned about her well being.

Shawn: Okay, well – I have a situation on my hands. I have an ex-girlfriend and she’s taken a whole bunch of klonopin, it’s like an anxiety pill that I take. I guess she got them from me. I guess she, like, took a bunch of her pain pills too, and she’s saying that she wants to die and she don’t care about life and all this bull-crap. So, I don’t know what to do.

After giving some personal information to the dispatcher, Adkins continues about the current situation.

Shawn: Yeah, we had a big blowup today and one of the officers had to get involved in it.

Dispatch: In Big Spring?

Shawn: Uh, no, no… over the cell phone. And uh, so she file a report on me, you know, for threats and stuff like that. (unintelligible) between her, her brother, and myself. Now, I don’t know, she’s just upset about it. And she’s just, you know, just not being herself right now. I’m just really worried about her right now.

Towards the end of the call, the dispatcher tells Adkins he has a warrant for his arrest. Adkins confirms that he's aware. The Scurry County Sheriff's Office says this stems from a 2009 public intoxication arrest in Snyder.

SNIPED
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333506

Reading back now that the rest of the family is all tucked in for the night & Im waiting for the repeat of NG.   I know I was tired last night when I finally watched the NG repeat but didnt Billie explicitly deny being suicidal?  I swear she did.    Also, I find it very interesting that he had klonopin then & they were both drugged up which thwarted them taking the lie detector initially.  Klonopin is used to control seizures alone or with other medications, reduce panic attacks.

Interestingly enough it also can be used to treat akathisia (restlessness/inability to stop constant movement) often a side effect of treatment with antipsychotic medications (medications for mental illness) and to treat acute catatonic reactions (state in which a person does not move or speak at all or moves or speaks abnormally).  IMHO, this should not be overlooked by LE.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 21, 2011, 02:30:00 AM
Billie says she talks to Shawn every couple of days.

Hold up, wait just 1 dang minute, the other night NG grilled her on this issue & Billie stated that she couldnt ask him because she didnt talk to him.  She then stated that she called and "they" wouldnt let her talk to him, recanted that & then stated it was his attorney that prevented it.   See what I mean about this chick?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 21, 2011, 02:46:41 AM
Considering Billie had reported that she thought Hailey had been wearing the red hoop earrings when she disappeared ... considering the earring was found by David on the carpet at the home of his father ... it would appear that Clint's home was not searched by LE.

Think about it.  Shawn alleged that Hailey was on her way over to her father's home when she left her home at 3:15 PM on December 17th but ... in the process of elimination Clint has not been polygraphed and ... in the process of elimination his home was not searched.  What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


MICHAEL BOARD, WOAI NEWSRADIO: Nancy, the last person to see Hailey Dunn alive was her mother`s boyfriend. This was on December 27th at about 3:00 o`clock in the last -- 3:00 o`clock in the afternoon. Her mother`s boyfriend says that Hailey told him that she was going over to her father`s house and then over to a friend`s house. ...

GRACE: Mr. Dunn, did you know that Hailey was on her way over?

CLINT DUNN: No, I didn`t. ...

GRACE:  So Mr. Dunn, tell me your recollection of what happened the day she goes missing.

Did you see her at all that day?

CLINT DUNN: I didn`t see her at all that day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


What are you implying?   Are you referring to possibly LE not doing their job or that Clint should be a suspect?   If its the latter, I think that is way off base.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 21, 2011, 03:19:53 AM
I also think Mark Klass is being VERY irresponsible to state on national TV & to Billie that he thinks the landfill searches did not turn up any evidence.   If what NG's reporter at the scene is saying is true then they have found at least something that is causing them to go to that same landfill a second time.  There might be a very good reason why they have not shared what that is with Billie yet.   O and by the way, she isnt the only parent involved here, the same would apply to Clint & it is not evident that LE has informed him of anything significant either & he's out there physically searching & keeping up it hands on.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 07:25:44 AM
Ok, now you could officially knock me over with a feather   THUD>>>>>>.





Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim5.0000/5 ratingPrint ArticleReported by: Tiffany Tatro and Austin Kellerman
Thursday, January 20 2011
   More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.
"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.
"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586

BRB~I need a shot of Patron ASAP


 ::MonkeyNoNo::


It's Devastating!

Good morning Monkey's,


It is my opinion, BJD is one of two things, either she is insane or part of the cover-up.  What else could it be? ::MonkeyConfused::

Did she state (recently) that she talks to SA "every couple days"?  Has she asked him YET where he was between 7:00 am & 9:00

am (on the day her daughter disappeared), when there were no pings?



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 07:42:31 AM

Hat's off to  N/T   :smt028 :smt028 :smt028 :smt028
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?376349-Hailey-Dunn-1-20-11/page15


Hailey's grandma asking people to help search on Saturday. Here is her fb page and a new photo of Hailey that I hadn't seen holding her half sister.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Connie-Jones/100001251345847
-------------(The photo melted my heart, Hailey with her little sister)




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: texasmom on January 21, 2011, 08:07:41 AM

Hat's off to  N/T   :smt028 :smt028 :smt028 :smt028
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?376349-Hailey-Dunn-1-20-11/page15


Hailey's grandma asking people to help search on Saturday. Here is her fb page and a new photo of Hailey that I hadn't seen holding her half sister.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Connie-Jones/100001251345847
-------------(The photo melted my heart, Hailey with her little sister)


I love that pic of Hailey with her little sister too, thanks seahorse!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 21, 2011, 10:03:49 AM
Just maybe since Marc Klaas is spending time with Billie he sees something that isn't coming across when she speaks. I am going to guess he is a pretty good judge of character, maybe he sees a woman who has made bad choices but who would not hurt her daughter? If it turns out that Hailey is deceased, what a double horror for someone to go through, your daughter is gone and it may be from choices you have made.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 21, 2011, 10:07:32 AM
I watched the repeat of the Nancy Grace Show (HLN).  Marc Klaas has been an ongoing  talking head on this show since the disappearance of Hailey.  He knows the deception encompassing Shawn's words and actions on the morning of December 27th.  The false hope that he is affording a desperate vulnerable Billie is cruel.

Until one hour ago ... I considered Marc a hero ... a voice of reason.  His judgement has become clouded.  Why?

 ::MonkeyTears::

Janet

I tend to agree with you, I think his heart is in the right place and everyone needs hope~but he also knows the statistics in these cases, and you are spot on that he knows the deception of SA, the deception wrt his phone records and I think SA sent the text to be honest and that is why Billie's phone ping information was never released. I still consider him a hero just as I do Tim Miller as they are both human and sometimes become so involved in a case that it blurs their objectivity. Although I will say when Tim tried to find out more about HaLeigh thru what he did, if I was in the same position of the parent missing my child, I would be receptive to ANYTHING that could help find them.

I think Marc sees something in Billie that possibly reminds him of Polly (just a wild guess, but she would be very close to Billie's age if she had lived).....It's just a side of him so fiercly advocating for her and she does need that and help, but he also knows and I have heard him say this so many times over the yrs that they must be polygraphed in order to really move on, but IMO the most bizarre thing was when he stated that Billie thought he had some redeeming qualities (paraphrasing), so it's almost like he is looking for any circumstance that would affirm that. I don't know if any of that made since, haven't had my coffee yet so if it doesn't I apologize.

I do think in all fairness that Clint and Naomi should be polygraphed also, not that I think they had anything to do with it, but if and when this goes to court it would look pretty bad that this was overlooked, and I can see a defense atty arguing tunnel vision and finding facts to fit the theory vs letting the facts take them where they take them.

I also think he may be there to help her in her ability to connect with searchers, the public in general on a very emotional level, I just think that is important because ppl tend to be more helpful and do more (not saying that is the right ) when ppl connect on an emotional level ........

Ok, off to get coffee now that I rambled on
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 10:07:44 AM
Ok, now you could officially knock me over with a feather   THUD>>>>>>.





Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim5.0000/5 ratingPrint ArticleReported by: Tiffany Tatro and Austin Kellerman
Thursday, January 20 2011
   More than three weeks after her daughter vanished, Billie Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.
"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.
"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586

BRB~I need a shot of Patron ASAP


 ::MonkeyNoNo::


It's Devastating!

Dr. Phil - January 29, 2006

Beth Holloway: There are times when we're thinking that we need to continue, and of course we're still searching for answers, but it's this rollercoaster ride. And it makes me so angry, Dr. Phil, when I let myself fall for information coming out of an official who represents the island of Aruba. If somebody presents you with false hope and false information, it's devastating.

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/3041/?id=1&slide=3&null=null


Do you think Mark is giving Billie false hope?

I think Billie is giving Mark false hope.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 10:11:08 AM
I watched the repeat of the Nancy Grace Show (HLN).  Marc Klaas has been an ongoing  talking head on this show since the disappearance of Hailey.  He knows the deception encompassing Shawn's words and actions on the morning of December 27th.  The false hope that he is affording a desperate vulnerable Billie is cruel.

Until one hour ago ... I considered Marc a hero ... a voice of reason.  His judgement has become clouded.  Why?

 ::MonkeyTears::

Janet

I tend to agree with you, I think his heart is in the right place and everyone needs hope~but he also knows the statistics in these cases, and you are spot on that he knows the deception of SA, the deception wrt his phone records and I think SA sent the text to be honest and that is why Billie's phone ping information was never released. I still consider him a hero just as I do Tim Miller as they are both human and sometimes become so involved in a case that it blurs their objectivity. Although I will say when Tim tried to find out more about HaLeigh thru what he did, if I was in the same position of the parent missing my child, I would be receptive to ANYTHING that could help find them.

I think Marc sees something in Billie that possibly reminds him of Polly (just a wild guess, but she would be very close to Billie's age if she had lived).....It's just a side of him so fiercly advocating for her and she does need that and help, but he also knows and I have heard him say this so many times over the yrs that they must be polygraphed in order to really move on, but IMO the most bizarre thing was when he stated that Billie thought he had some redeeming qualities (paraphrasing), so it's almost like he is looking for any circumstance that would affirm that. I don't know if any of that made since, haven't had my coffee yet so if it doesn't I apologize.

I do think in all fairness that Clint and Naomi should be polygraphed also, not that I think they had anything to do with it, but if and when this goes to court it would look pretty bad that this was overlooked, and I can see a defense atty arguing tunnel vision and finding facts to fit the theory vs letting the facts take them where they take them.

I also think he may be there to help her in her ability to connect with searchers, the public in general on a very emotional level, I just think that is important because ppl tend to be more helpful and do more (not saying that is the right ) when ppl connect on an emotional level ........

Ok, off to get coffee now that I rambled on
 ::MonkeyTongue::

IM ::HelloKitty::

Your wrote a good down to earth post!

Do you think that BJD was jealous of the new baby?  I try to be discreet, I do not wish to cause distress for family members.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 10:13:10 AM

Hat's off to  N/T   :smt028 :smt028 :smt028 :smt028
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?376349-Hailey-Dunn-1-20-11/page15


Hailey's grandma asking people to help search on Saturday. Here is her fb page and a new photo of Hailey that I hadn't seen holding her half sister.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Connie-Jones/100001251345847
-------------(The photo melted my heart, Hailey with her little sister)


I love that pic of Hailey with her little sister too, thanks seahorse!   ::MonkeyCool::


 :thumleft: :thumleft:


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 21, 2011, 10:14:37 AM
Does anyone know if MK has met with Clint ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 21, 2011, 10:37:36 AM
Does anyone know if MK has met with Clint ?
That is a good question, don't think I have read either way. I'm going to assume he would have, but really don't know.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 10:55:45 AM
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/fridaysmiley.gif)

Good Morning everyone! May this be the day Hailey is found.   (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/coffeeroll.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on January 21, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
I watched the repeat of the Nancy Grace Show (HLN).  Marc Klaas has been an ongoing  talking head on this show since the disappearance of Hailey.  He knows the deception encompassing Shawn's words and actions on the morning of December 27th.  The false hope that he is affording a desperate vulnerable Billie is cruel.

Until one hour ago ... I considered Marc a hero ... a voice of reason.  His judgement has become clouded.  Why?

 ::MonkeyTears::

Janet

I tend to agree with you, I think his heart is in the right place and everyone needs hope~but he also knows the statistics in these cases, and you are spot on that he knows the deception of SA, the deception wrt his phone records and I think SA sent the text to be honest and that is why Billie's phone ping information was never released. I still consider him a hero just as I do Tim Miller as they are both human and sometimes become so involved in a case that it blurs their objectivity. Although I will say when Tim tried to find out more about HaLeigh thru what he did, if I was in the same position of the parent missing my child, I would be receptive to ANYTHING that could help find them.

I think Marc sees something in Billie that possibly reminds him of Polly (just a wild guess, but she would be very close to Billie's age if she had lived).....It's just a side of him so fiercly advocating for her and she does need that and help, but he also knows and I have heard him say this so many times over the yrs that they must be polygraphed in order to really move on, but IMO the most bizarre thing was when he stated that Billie thought he had some redeeming qualities (paraphrasing), so it's almost like he is looking for any circumstance that would affirm that. I don't know if any of that made since, haven't had my coffee yet so if it doesn't I apologize.

I do think in all fairness that Clint and Naomi should be polygraphed also, not that I think they had anything to do with it, but if and when this goes to court it would look pretty bad that this was overlooked, and I can see a defense atty arguing tunnel vision and finding facts to fit the theory vs letting the facts take them where they take them.

I also think he may be there to help her in her ability to connect with searchers, the public in general on a very emotional level, I just think that is important because ppl tend to be more helpful and do more (not saying that is the right ) when ppl connect on an emotional level ........

Ok, off to get coffee now that I rambled on
 ::MonkeyTongue::

IM ::HelloKitty::

Your wrote a good down to earth post!

Do you think that BJD was jealous of the new baby?  I try to be discreet, I do not wish to cause distress for family members.

Thanks:)

I haven't even thought of that, although I somewhat doubt it since I honestly think she was tired of being a parent due to the fact she spent her youth (teens and twenties) raising children, but she may have possibly been jealous of the fact Clint had a new baby with another woman, I have known dozens of women like that......but that isn't honestly what I believe just a hypothetical.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 11:38:11 AM
No Confirmation of Evidence Found in Landfill Searches  (with video)

Colorado City, TX - After one of Nancy Grace's producers reported Thursday evening that law enforcement has found evidence directly connected to Hailey Dunn during landfill searches, Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer says he can't confirm that. Kampfer says if major developments of that nature occurred, he'd likely know about it. Crews searched landfills in Colorado City and Snyder Thursday afternoon. One week prior, law enforcement and cadaver dogs searched Abilene's Allied Waste Services.

Additional sources in law enforcement tell bigcountryhomepage.com Thursday's searches were part of the ongoing criminal investigation. To their knowledge, no physical evidence directly linked to Hailey has been discovered.

The landfill searches all center around in investigation into the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn. The Colorado City teen went missing on Monday, December 27. The last person to report seeing her is her mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins. Adkins is the only named suspect in her disappearance. Authorities continue to say they have several persons of interest.

Law enforcement has confirmed cadaver dogs got "hits" in their Abilene landfill search. Last weekend, Kampfer declared that search to be unsuccessful.

Kampfer tells bigcountryhomepage.com that crews spent Thursday combing over things that may have been missed the during their initial search of those landfills. The first time they went through the Colorado City and Snyder landfills was closer to the time Hailey went missing.

Kampfer says it's always possible investigators found something that pointed them back to the landfill. He also added officers might be reviewing sites that peaked interest during their initial search.

Different dogs were likely brought in to either track down new scents or corroborate things that were previously found, according to Kampfer. He went on to say law enforcement has not told him of future landfill searches. However, he says it wouldn't surprise him.

KTAB's Tiffany Tatro asked Kampfer about the earring that's been talked about in recent "Nancy Grace" broadcasts. After Hailey's disappearance, one of the earrings her mother thought she was wearing on the day she vanished was discovered in her father's home. Her dad, Clint Dunn, says she left it the day before when she stayed at his home. Though Billie Dunn thought he daughter was wearing the earrings, she says it's likely Clint is correct.

Kampfer said he's put in a request to discuss the earring and has not heard back. Therefore, he can't even confirm an earring is part of the investigation.

Earlier this week, KRBC's Jessica Reyes interviewed a witness who believes she saw Hailey walking with a small boy on the morning of her disappearance. According to the witness, it was an African American boy approximately 7 years old.

It now appears that child could be the son of Clint Dunn's girlfriend.

Billie Dunn confirmed Clint's girlfriend has a son that matches this description. Pete Kampfer says he has heard that as well but hasn't received confirmation from law enforcement. Kampfer previously told bigcountryhomepage.com the child has been questioned by authorities.

Kampfer told bigcountryhomepage.com the investigation into Hailey's disappearance continues to have a criminal focus. After receiving 10 leads a day in the early part of the investigation, credible tips have now dwindled to 3-5 each day.

The reward for information leading to Hailey's safe return is now $15,000.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333716


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 11:39:20 AM
Aerial Video: Inside the Colorado City Landfill

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333606


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 11:40:54 AM
Hailey Dunn Search and Investigation Pushes On (with video)

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- While there have been reports that evidence was found in the search of landfills in Snyder and Colorado City Thursday, the spokesperson for the investigation tells KTXS if anything substantial had been found he would have known about it and yet the search continues.

Law enforcement pushed forward with the search as did volunteers who came out Thursday despite frigid temperatures to comb fields looking for Dunn. Even though the number of searchers has fallen, the community is not giving up.

"We still want this child home," said middle school teacher Kristy Lloyd," Even though it's over three weeks she's still in our heart's still in our faith we want this child home."

A prayer vigil will be held tomorrow, the second since the little girl has gone missing. Held at the gym for the First Baptist Church in Colorado City from 7:00 to 8:00 PM.

"Let's just do a prayer vigil, no candles involved," Lloyd said, "Just get everyone together in one place pray for Hailey, pray she comes homes, pray for the family

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26566599/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 11:42:32 AM
Thursday, January 21, 2011

THE LATEST IN THE CASE OF MISSING 13 YEAR OLD HAILEY DUNN THE SEARCH HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO BUILDINGS IN SCURRY AND MITCHELL COUNTIES AND ADDITIONAL LANDFILLS ACCORDING TO COLORADO CITY CITY MANAGER PETE KAMPFER. AT THIS TIME SHAWN ADKINS IS STILL THE ONLY NAMED SUSPECT IN THE CASE BUT ACCORDING TO KAMPFER THERE ARE SEVERAL PERSONS OF INTEREST IN THE CASE WHO MAY HAVE OR KNOW INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO THE CASE. KAMPFER DID NOT NAME ANY OF THE PERSONS OF INTEREST. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONTACT THE COLORADO CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AT 325-728-5294.

http://am.kbst.com/page.php?34


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 11:43:50 AM
Klaas Kids Reaching Out to Community for Help 1/20/11


Colorado City, Texas - There will be a prayer vigil for Hailey Dunn from 7:00 to 8:00 PM Friday at the First Baptist Church in Colorado City.

This is all part of the case that has now captured the attention of national organizations, including Klaas Kids.

The founder, Marc Klaas, says his daughter, Polly Hannah Klaas, was kidnapped, raped and murdered in 1994, but her death was not in vain as he helps the communities and families of missing children around the nation through an organization in her name.

Marc says the similarities on how Hailey Dunn disappeared is what brought his organization based in California to Colorado City.

He tells CBS7, "That would then lead me to speculate she was taken by someone that did mean her harm. Hopefully, somebody will keep her alive and not do to this child what was done to my child."

Director of Search Operations Brad Dennis was one of thousands of volunteers in Polly's search.

They found her body 65 days later and he says community support is crucial in cases like this.

"(This is) The same case as Polly. The age, a desperate family and a community supporting the family and that is what you'll see." he says, "You don't have any evidence, ransom notes, the perpetrator disappeared. I think those are real commonalities."

The organization will be at the Colorado City Civic Center every morning at 9:00AM until Hailey's return.

Several volunteers tell us they have been, at times, chased away by property owners.

Klaas Kids asks landowners to do their own search and report it to them.

http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=23461


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 11:49:37 AM
Considering Billie had reported that she thought Hailey had been wearing the red hoop earrings when she disappeared ... considering the earring was found by David on the carpet at the home of his father ... it would appear that Clint's home was not searched by LE.

Think about it.  Shawn alleged that Hailey was on her way over to her father's home when she left her home at 3:15 PM on December 17th but ... in the process of elimination Clint has not been polygraphed and ... in the process of elimination his home was not searched.  What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 4, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


MICHAEL BOARD, WOAI NEWSRADIO: Nancy, the last person to see Hailey Dunn alive was her mother`s boyfriend. This was on December 27th at about 3:00 o`clock in the last -- 3:00 o`clock in the afternoon. Her mother`s boyfriend says that Hailey told him that she was going over to her father`s house and then over to a friend`s house. ...

GRACE: Mr. Dunn, did you know that Hailey was on her way over?

CLINT DUNN: No, I didn`t. ...

GRACE:  So Mr. Dunn, tell me your recollection of what happened the day she goes missing.

Did you see her at all that day?

CLINT DUNN: I didn`t see her at all that day.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


What are you implying?   Are you referring to possibly LE not doing their job or that Clint should be a suspect?   If its the latter, I think that is way off base.

I am implying that in the process of elimination ... LE did not do their job if Clint's house was not searched ... if Clint's offer to take a polygraph was not acted upon.  Think about it.  The home of the neighbor who claimed a Hailey sighting on the afternoon of December 27th was search.

Although it is my contention that neither Billie or Clint could be considered parental role models ... I do not believe that either one of them were involved in what ultimately happened to Hailey.  My ONLY focus is Shawn.
Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 20, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: You know, that`s a very good point. But you`ve got to remember, the boyfriend places himself with Hailey around 3:00 after the neighbor sees her at 12:00. But speaking of that, back to Billie Dunn, Hailey`s mom, you`re actually more familiar than that than we are because we have gone around and tried to find that guy. We haven`t been able to find him. What do you know about him? Have police finally run him down?

DUNN: I know that they did question him well. They did search the house that he was living in here next door. They said they searched it well.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 12:06:40 PM
Hailey Suspect to 911: Billie Says She Wants to Die
Friday, January 21 2011

Colorado City, TX -   KTAB News has obtained a fourth 911 call stemming from a February 2010 domestic dispute during which, according to police affidavits, Shawn Adkins allegedly threatened to kill 13-year-old Hailey Dunn and her mother.
Adkins is the boyfriend of Hailey’s mother, Billie Dunn, and the only confirmed suspect in the girl’s disappearance. According to police, Adkins was the last person to see Hailey on December 27: the day she went missing.

According to search warrant affidavits filed after Hailey's disappearance, Adkins admitted to investigators that he threatened the lives of both Billie and Hailey during a domestic dispute.

In the newly released call, Adkins calls Snyder Police on the afternoon of February 14 and reports Billie Dunn as "suicidal."

Click here to listen to the newly released 911 call in its entirety

<snipped>

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333506


911 calls from February 2010

Call 1
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617046

Call 2
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617056

Call 3
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/libraries/nxd/media/index.php?data=media_player&v=617096





Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Good Mornng All!

Maybe today is the day that answers are forthcoming in the disappearance of a little girl named Hailey.

Janet
9:10 AM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:11:09 PM
Since we are getting very little from the investigation and not much volunteered by the police spokesman, Clint may have already taken a LDT and his house could have been searched. We are not hearing answers from LE about direct questions. Just wishy washy answers that could be taken several ways.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 21, 2011, 12:14:20 PM
Just maybe since Marc Klaas is spending time with Billie he sees something that isn't coming across when she speaks. I am going to guess he is a pretty good judge of character, maybe he sees a woman who has made bad choices but who would not hurt her daughter? If it turns out that Hailey is deceased, what a double horror for someone to go through, your daughter is gone and it may be from choices you have made.

I dont personally see the distinction having anything to do with being a good judge of character, not by a long shot.  What I would agree with is that he may see what many feel & that is that Billie didnt directly have anything to do with what is looking like Hailey's murder.  However, IMHO she DID hurt her daughter, she hurt her daughter (and son) by insisting on having that scum in their home when she knew darn well Hailey was afraid of him.   She still insisted that he live with them after threats to persons lives & she feared him taking things....countless 911 calls.   I see that as torturing a minor child for very selfish & stupid reasons.  Ya know, Shawn wasnt the only man on earth so Billie didnt need to obsess over that scum.  In the recent 911 call released it became evident that Billie was taking pain pills way prior to what happened to Haleigh, hmmm for someone relatively young it needs to be asked why & if it was with a doctor's prescription for something specific.   Did she take Klonopin on her own on top of that?  Look, anyone can have a "break" under many ongoing stressors but to get to the point of suicidal over some dude your screwing & partying with, as a mother first, NO.  God knows what else she MAY have been taking but again it is my strong gut feeling she is lying about being a drug abuser herself.   Billie has lied & contradicted too many statements which lends me to further not trust her.  She may not have picked up a weapon & killed her daughter but she opened the door to let it happen, there is nothing that has changed my mind to believe that a stranger had something to do with what happened to Hailey.

It might be a double horror for Billie to live with but the one aspect of this IS her fault & I personally cannot empathize with her one bit, in fact I loathe her for it.  She is 33 not 18 & naive, not even a "less educated" excuse, a mother should have basic instincts & a sense of responsibility to her children FIRST AND FOREMOST at ALL TIMES, period.   It is one thing to be an idiot temporarily or permanently about a man in your life as a woman but to be literally reckless, selfish & irresponsible as a mother....no excuses are acceptable to me.   I say this not to be argumentative whatsoever & I dont deny anyone else from having their tolerances or empathy that I find undeserved or behavior unacceptable but I wont mince words on what mine are.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:38:32 PM
Just maybe since Marc Klaas is spending time with Billie he sees something that isn't coming across when she speaks. I am going to guess he is a pretty good judge of character, maybe he sees a woman who has made bad choices but who would not hurt her daughter? If it turns out that Hailey is deceased, what a double horror for someone to go through, your daughter is gone and it may be from choices you have made.

I dont personally see the distinction having anything to do with being a good judge of character, not by a long shot.  What I would agree with is that he may see what many feel & that is that Billie didnt directly have anything to do with what is looking like Hailey's murder.  However, IMHO she DID hurt her daughter, she hurt her daughter (and son) by insisting on having that scum in their home when she knew darn well Hailey was afraid of him.   She still insisted that he live with them after threats to persons lives & she feared him taking things....countless 911 calls.   I see that as torturing a minor child for very selfish & stupid reasons.  Ya know, Shawn wasnt the only man on earth so Billie didnt need to obsess over that scum.  In the recent 911 call released it became evident that Billie was taking pain pills way prior to what happened to Haleigh, hmmm for someone relatively young it needs to be asked why & if it was with a doctor's prescription for something specific.   Did she take Klonopin on her own on top of that?  Look, anyone can have a "break" under many ongoing stressors but to get to the point of suicidal over some dude your screwing & partying with, as a mother first, NO.  God knows what else she MAY have been taking but again it is my strong gut feeling she is lying about being a drug abuser herself.   Billie has lied & contradicted too many statements which lends me to further not trust her.  She may not have picked up a weapon & killed her daughter but she opened the door to let it happen, there is nothing that has changed my mind to believe that a stranger had something to do with what happened to Hailey.

It might be a double horror for Billie to live with but the one aspect of this IS her fault & I personally cannot empathize with her one bit, in fact I loathe her for it.  She is 33 not 18 & naive, not even a "less educated" excuse, a mother should have basic instincts & a sense of responsibility to her children FIRST AND FOREMOST at ALL TIMES, period.   It is one thing to be an idiot temporarily or permanently about a man in your life as a woman but to be literally reckless, selfish & irresponsible as a mother....no excuses are acceptable to me.   I say this not to be argumentative whatsoever & I dont deny anyone else from having their tolerances or empathy that I find undeserved or behavior unacceptable but I wont mince words on what mine are.

ITA Good post! I have never thought Billie had anything to do directly with Hailey's disappearance. I think Shawn is the perpetrator.
My point has always been Billie knew things after the fact and is covering for Shawn now. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: MOMDET on January 21, 2011, 12:38:39 PM
I am more of reader in here, then a writer, but this time I have to ask...WHY is Clint moving when his daughter has gone missing?  It reminded me of the Croslins that moved to MA?  Anyways, there might be a logical reason, but I wouldn't move if my child was missing?  Also, why did David take the earring to his mother?  Why didn't Clint take it to the police?  I have seen this man on TV, he seems sincere, however this is just an odd cast of characters? 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 12:45:54 PM
I am more of reader in here, then a writer, but this time I have to ask...WHY is Clint moving when his daughter has gone missing?  It reminded me of the Croslins that moved to MA?  Anyways, there might be a logical reason, but I wouldn't move if my child was missing?  Also, why did David take the earring to his mother?  Why didn't Clint take it to the police?  I have seen this man on TV, he seems sincere, however this is just an odd cast of characters? 
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/smiley-welcome-wagon.gif)
WELCOME MOMDET

It was posted yesterday that the apartment was a government subsidized apartment in the girlfriend's name. When it was found out that Clint was living there too, they had to move. That is what I remember.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 21, 2011, 12:46:35 PM
I am more of reader in here, then a writer, but this time I have to ask...WHY is Clint moving when his daughter has gone missing?  It reminded me of the Croslins that moved to MA?  Anyways, there might be a logical reason, but I wouldn't move if my child was missing?  Also, why did David take the earring to his mother?  Why didn't Clint take it to the police?  I have seen this man on TV, he seems sincere, however this is just an odd cast of characters? 

Hi Momdet and welcome!  The way I remember it is that Clint was living at his girlfriends house which was across the street from Billie.  When it became known he was living there, I believe the girlfriend was told to move because I believe it was low income or restricted and he wasn't supposed to be living there.  My GUESS is that with the publicity it became known and they had no choice but to move. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 21, 2011, 12:59:49 PM
Cappuccino says....
"In the recent 911 call released it became evident that Billie was taking pain pills way prior to what happened to Haleigh, hmmm for someone relatively young it needs to be asked why & if it was with a doctor's prescription for something specific.   Did she take Klonopin on her own on top of that?... "

I only quoted this portion of Cappy's post because it's long and I just wanted to focus on this area. Is there an article, where Billie claims to have script, or to have taken klonopin, because I haven't seen it anywhere. I believe the klonopin accusation came from Shawn...IIRC after Billie had placed several 911 calls for assistance, Shawn then called later in the day and told the dispatcher that Billie was suicidal. Sorry, but I think he was full of crap and trying to attack her emotional stability (if she had any then) and therefore her credibility. This isn't all that unusual in these type of incidences. It's called "offend and accuse." One party tries to take action to prevent being victimized any further and the offender/abuser/manipulator tries to turn the tables. I think it's a bogus claim by Shawn who was hoping that LE would disregard the 911 calls Billie made and was designed to minimize and downplay his role in the situation. JMHO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 21, 2011, 01:16:14 PM
I was just trying to come up with a reason to why maybe Marc is siding and believing in Billie. He is the one spending time with her, none of us are, maybe one on one talking he sees things we don't see, how would I know. Yes, Billie has made unwise decisions, has said contradicting statements on Nancy Grace, takes drugs, but choose not to kick the woman while she is down. I don't believe she has anything to do with whatever happened to Hailey, but of course I may be wrong.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: luvmyboys on January 21, 2011, 01:18:01 PM
Samarie I agree with what you said 100 percent. And I would like to ad that clint and his girlfriend should take poly. Not saying that they are guilty but to just elimante them all together. Many people are saying the same thing. Just do it. jmo


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 21, 2011, 01:29:59 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 21, 2011, 01:30:07 PM
Can someone demand police give them a LDT ?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 21, 2011, 01:33:25 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyAngel:: I'm very sorry for your loss.   You will not get any nanners thrown at you, you said it all, it is impossible to know how one may react or respond in a tragedy like this.   Does anyone know anything about Clint's girlfriend Naomi's ex, the father of the little boy?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: luvmyboys on January 21, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
WOW samarie. That is aweful that you have been through not only 1 but 2 family members gone and no justice!!! What happen did they not find the person or persons that did this to them. Omg hunny wow I could not imagine. I went to zahra bakers memorial and it was the hardest thing I ever did in my life. I even went 2 the house. It was so scary there.  It was just cold. I am still in shock of what you just posted. I just wonder if the when hailey's brother found the earing idf he even told his dad or did he just take it home and gave it to billie?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 01:45:12 PM
Can someone demand police give them a LDT ?

My opinion is most agencies would give a LDT if requested and it pertained to a criminal case. Some smaller departments may not have their own operator, and would depend on a certified operator or one from another agency.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 01:47:57 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

I am very sorry for your loss, SAMARIE. I cannot imagine the pain you have been through. And no nanner throwing from me. I told you yesterday everyone has a right to their own opinion and I respect that.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 21, 2011, 01:57:14 PM
WOW samarie. That is aweful that you have been through not only 1 but 2 family members gone and no justice!!! What happen did they not find the person or persons that did this to them. Omg hunny wow I could not imagine. I went to zahra bakers memorial and it was the hardest thing I ever did in my life. I even went 2 the house. It was so scary there.  It was just cold. I am still in shock of what you just posted. I just wonder if the when hailey's brother found the earing idf he even told his dad or did he just take it home and gave it to billie?

In 1980 (I'm dating myself here) my best friend, who was like a sister to me, never made it to work. Several friends knew something was wrong right away and tried to report it to LE, but because she was 18, a missing persons report couldn't be filed until she was missing for 24hrs. I heard she was gone when I got out of work late that evening, I really wasn't overly concerned at the time, although it wasn't like her to just disappear like that without telling someone, I was sure she would turn up unharmed. The next morning her dead, naked, body was discovered on a local beach. She had been bound, there was no sign of sexual assault, she was wearing only a necklace and there was trace evidence under her fingernails. According to the ME report, her larynx had been crushed and they estimated that it took approximately 8 hours for her to succomb to her injuries. 8hrs! WTF, somebody couldn't have left her in a hospital parking lot where she could have been found? I showed up at the police station Mpnday morning, told them I wanted to speak with the lead detective on the case and that I was one of her closest friends. Holy crap! I can assure you LE can be intimidating, they will lie, they will falsify reports and they can get tunnel vision. No one has ever been arrested for her murder. I can say that about 5yrs ago a detctive and NCIS agent appeared at my door ( I moved over 300miles away) and they were reviewing the case and get this....the evidence from under her nails was still viable. They have the DNA profile of her murderer, but cannot put a name or a face to the profile.
This is when I found out LE had lied to me in the beginning, and lied on there investigstive reports. I was floored. Anyway, I'm not giving up until I'm dead, even LE has told me, we don't ever expect to solve this case, it's been too long. I have news for them, I'm not giving up and neither is her family.

I'll save the story about my brother for another time.....

I too wonder about Naomi? Is she helping, in some capacity, to find Hailey? I don't know, but would like too


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 21, 2011, 02:07:04 PM
WOW samarie. That is aweful that you have been through not only 1 but 2 family members gone and no justice!!! What happen did they not find the person or persons that did this to them. Omg hunny wow I could not imagine. I went to zahra bakers memorial and it was the hardest thing I ever did in my life. I even went 2 the house. It was so scary there.  It was just cold. I am still in shock of what you just posted. I just wonder if the when hailey's brother found the earing idf he even told his dad or did he just take it home and gave it to billie?

In 1980 (I'm dating myself here) my best friend, who was like a sister to me, never made it to work. Several friends knew something was wrong right away and tried to report it to LE, but because she was 18, a missing persons report couldn't be filed until she was missing for 24hrs. I heard she was gone when I got out of work late that evening, I really wasn't overly concerned at the time, although it wasn't like her to just disappear like that without telling someone, I was sure she would turn up unharmed. The next morning her dead, naked, body was discovered on a local beach. She had been bound, there was no sign of sexual assault, she was wearing only a necklace and there was trace evidence under her fingernails. According to the ME report, her larynx had been crushed and they estimated that it took approximately 8 hours for her to succomb to her injuries. 8hrs! WTF, somebody couldn't have left her in a hospital parking lot where she could have been found? I showed up at the police station Mpnday morning, told them I wanted to speak with the lead detective on the case and that I was one of her closest friends. Holy crap! I can assure you LE can be intimidating, they will lie, they will falsify reports and they can get tunnel vision. No one has ever been arrested for her murder. I can say that about 5yrs ago a detctive and NCIS agent appeared at my door ( I moved over 300miles away) and they were reviewing the case and get this....the evidence from under her nails was still viable. They have the DNA profile of her murderer, but cannot put a name or a face to the profile.
This is when I found out LE had lied to me in the beginning, and lied on there investigstive reports. I was floored. Anyway, I'm not giving up until I'm dead, even LE has told me, we don't ever expect to solve this case, it's been too long. I have news for them, I'm not giving up and neither is her family.

I'll save the story about my brother for another time.....

I too wonder about Naomi? Is she helping, in some capacity, to find Hailey? I don't know, but would like too
Apparently she and the baby go with CD when he hands out flyers. I don't believe she has gone on any of the searches.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
I watched the repeat of the Nancy Grace Show (HLN).  Marc Klaas has been an ongoing  talking head on this show since the disappearance of Hailey.  He knows the deception encompassing Shawn's words and actions on the morning of December 27th.  The false hope that he is affording a desperate vulnerable Billie is cruel.

Until one hour ago ... I considered Marc a hero ... a voice of reason.  His judgement has become clouded.  Why?

 ::MonkeyTears::

Janet

I tend to agree with you, I think his heart is in the right place and everyone needs hope~but he also knows the statistics in these cases, and you are spot on that he knows the deception of SA, the deception wrt his phone records and I think SA sent the text to be honest and that is why Billie's phone ping information was never released. I still consider him a hero just as I do Tim Miller as they are both human and sometimes become so involved in a case that it blurs their objectivity. Although I will say when Tim tried to find out more about HaLeigh thru what he did, if I was in the same position of the parent missing my child, I would be receptive to ANYTHING that could help find them.

I think Marc sees something in Billie that possibly reminds him of Polly (just a wild guess, but she would be very close to Billie's age if she had lived).....It's just a side of him so fiercly advocating for her and she does need that and help, but he also knows and I have heard him say this so many times over the yrs that they must be polygraphed in order to really move on, but IMO the most bizarre thing was when he stated that Billie thought he had some redeeming qualities (paraphrasing), so it's almost like he is looking for any circumstance that would affirm that. I don't know if any of that made since, haven't had my coffee yet so if it doesn't I apologize.

I do think in all fairness that Clint and Naomi should be polygraphed also, not that I think they had anything to do with it, but if and when this goes to court it would look pretty bad that this was overlooked, and I can see a defense atty arguing tunnel vision and finding facts to fit the theory vs letting the facts take them where they take them.

I also think he may be there to help her in her ability to connect with searchers, the public in general on a very emotional level, I just think that is important because ppl tend to be more helpful and do more (not saying that is the right ) when ppl connect on an emotional level ........

Ok, off to get coffee now that I rambled on
 ::MonkeyTongue::

IM ::HelloKitty::

Your wrote a good down to earth post!

Do you think that BJD was jealous of the new baby?  I try to be discreet, I do not wish to cause distress for family members.

Thanks:)

I haven't even thought of that, although I somewhat doubt it since I honestly think she was tired of being a parent due to the fact she spent her youth (teens and twenties) raising children, but she may have possibly been jealous of the fact Clint had a new baby with another woman, I have known dozens of women like that......but that isn't honestly what I believe just a hypothetical.

T.Y. I didn't think of the other, duh. Just thought she had a grudge of some sort, since BJD is somewhat seemingly immature.

IM did you create the name Pillbillies? LOL.  I wanted to refer to BD as a PB but I refrained, I did not create the name and
feel like a thief when I use someone's else's creativity without giving credit.   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 02:07:21 PM
When I consider what has been learned about the poor lifestyle choices of both Clint and Billie ... poor lifestyle choices that flaunt the legal system ... poor lifestyle choices that put children at risk ... I would never afford my grandchildren sleepover priviledges.  Would anybody on this forum?

Nevertheless ... I believe that in their own way Hailey's parents did  love her.  There is nothing to indicate she was physically abused and it appears that all the necessities of life were provided.  However ... the love provided was not a sacrificial love that made Hailey's well-being a priority over her parents' own selfish desires.

Currently ... Clint and Billie are hurting ... hurting bad.  Both are clinging to the faint hope that Hailey will be found alive and well.  The alternative is too much to comprehend.  The implication is a lifetime of remorse.

Janet

++++++++


Clint Dunn

Hailey's Older Brother Is Moved From Dunn Home In Colorado City
POSTED: 4:49 pm CST January 19, 2011
UPDATED: 8:15 am CST January 20, 2011


Hailey's father, Clint Dunn, joined the group of about 55 searchers, to offer up his support.

"I don't want to join in the search – I can't," he said. "I don't want to. It's just amazing seeing these people the community pull together like this."

He said he can't search because he's not willing to face what could be found in the fields.

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26545922/detail.html


Billie Dunn

RAW: Hailey's Mom Thinks Someone Will Find Her Daughter
Thursday, January 20 2011


Dunn said she also appreciates everyone who is volunteering their time to search. However, she's happy they haven't found anything.

"I'm glad they're looking, but each day I'm hoping they don't find anything out there in the dirt. That's not the way that I want them to find her," added Dunn.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333416


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 02:09:47 PM
Thursday, January 21, 2011

THE LATEST IN THE CASE OF MISSING 13 YEAR OLD HAILEY DUNN THE SEARCH HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO BUILDINGS IN SCURRY AND MITCHELL COUNTIES AND ADDITIONAL LANDFILLS ACCORDING TO COLORADO CITY CITY MANAGER PETE KAMPFER. AT THIS TIME SHAWN ADKINS IS STILL THE ONLY NAMED SUSPECT IN THE CASE BUT ACCORDING TO KAMPFER THERE ARE SEVERAL PERSONS OF INTEREST IN THE CASE WHO MAY HAVE OR KNOW INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO THE CASE. KAMPFER DID NOT NAME ANY OF THE PERSONS OF INTEREST. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONTACT THE COLORADO CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AT 325-728-5294.

http://am.kbst.com/page.php?34

Interesting.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: luvmyboys on January 21, 2011, 02:12:16 PM
Wow I am just speechless. I. Am so sorry for for what you and her family has gone through. I also believe with all my heart that police will lie over and over. Its like they will tell you something just to get you to go away. And that is straight BS!!!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 02:27:41 PM
Marc Klaas is aware of the deception of Shawn in regards to his actions and words encompassing the morning of December 27th.  Marc Klaas is aware of those cell phone pings.

The abetting of Billie in distancing Shawn from implication in the disappearance of Hailey and focusing on a positive outcome is not kind.  In the long run it is so cruel.

Why Marc?  What happen to what I considered the voice of reason.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

+++++++


Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim
Thursday, January 20 2011


Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.

"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.

"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586


It's Devastating!

Dr. Phil - January 29, 2006


Beth Holloway: There are times when we're thinking that we need to continue, and of course we're still searching for answers, but it's this rollercoaster ride. And it makes me so angry, Dr. Phil, when I let myself fall for information coming out of an official who represents the island of Aruba. If somebody presents you with false hope and false information, it's devastating.

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/3041/?id=1&slide=3&null=null


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 02:32:51 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

No Nanners from me.  I remember how Tori Stafford's  mom was crucified on the way she acted and it turned out that 2 unknown scumbags took Tori.  I do not think Billie or Clint are involved.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 02:38:57 PM
Colorado City Landfill Searched for Any Sign of Hailey Dunn 1/20/11

Nearing the fourth week since Hailey Dunn’s disappearance, civilian searches are expanding while law enforcement looks at new angles in the criminal investigation.

Thursday, cadaver dogs searched the Colorado City Landfill looking for any sign of Hailey.

City Manager Pete Kampfer could not provide the results of the search to CBS 7 Thursday night but did strongly insinuate that nothing of consequence was discovered in the search.

The 30+ law enforcement personnel investigating a week ago have been cut in half as the FBI has pulled back its personnel on the ground.

“Realities start to set in”, says Kampfer.

But two nationally recognized search organizations, Klaas Kids and the Laura Recovery Center for Missing Children, are staging at the Colorado City Civic Center each day before conducting daily searches. The groups say they’re far from giving up.

“Until a body is found, there is hope that Hailey is alive”, says Marc Klaas, Founder of Klaas Kids, who is in town from California.

Much of the public sentiment online and on the “Nancy Grace Show” is that the only named suspect, Shawn Adkins, is on the road to an arrest. But Klaas isn’t in Colorado City to speculate.

He describes his objective as a unifier between law enforcement, civilian search parties and the family.

However, each day that Hailey is not found, law enforcement appears to be somewhat scaling back their resources.

Klaas believes the only way to prevent that is to keep Hailey on the forefront of everyone’s mind.

http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=23467


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 02:40:30 PM
Prayer Vigil Tonight in Colorado City for Hailey Dunn

A prayer vigil is planned for this evening to help support the family of Hailey Dunn as well as law enforcement.
The service will be held toinght at 7 p.m. in the gym at First Baptist Church in Colorado City. The church is located at 3rd Street at Chestnut.

A number of vigils have already been held in Hailey's honor.

Just a few days after Hailey's reported disappearance, the community in Colorado City gathered for a prayer service.

On the evening of January 9, vigils were held in Sweetwater and Coahoma.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333396&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
Raw: Hailey's Mom Finds New Hope in Search

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333796&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 02:44:20 PM
More Searchers Needed, Billie Dunn Calls Reports "Untrue"  (with video)

Marc Klaas, founder of an advocate group to help find missing children, tells KTAB's Tiffany Tatro that not as many volunteers showed up to assist in search efforts as he was hoping for Friday morning.
Klaas made a plea for help Thursday afternoon. He and members of his group are helping to organize volunteer searchers. They're also receiving help from the Laura Recovery Center.

On Wednesday, more than 50 people took part in the search. On Thursday, that numbers dwindled to less than half of the previous day's total.

Klaas said he's hopeful more people will be out assisting over the weekend.

Tatro also sat down with Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer to discuss reports on Thursday's Nancy Grace program that physical evidence relating to Hailey Dunn was found in a recent landfill search. Kampfer reiterated that he can not confirm that. Kampfer said if physical evidence was discovered, he would expect to know about it.

Kampfer also said he's not aware of any findings related to Thursday's searches of landfills in Colorado City and Snyder.

Billie Dunn, Hailey's mother, says she's spoken with Klaas and law enforcement about the report on Nancy Grace. She labeled it "untrue."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333816



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 21, 2011, 02:44:51 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

No Nanners from me.  I remember how Tori Stafford's  mom was crucified on the way she acted and it turned out that 2 unknown scumbags took Tori.  I do not think Billie or Clint are involved.
I don't believe Billie is directly involved with HD's disappearance but feel if she was truthful with her answers the chance of finding her daughter would increase IMOO.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 21, 2011, 02:45:12 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

No Nanners from me.  I remember how Tori Stafford's  mom was crucified on the way she acted and it turned out that 2 unknown scumbags took Tori.  I do not think Billie or Clint are involved.
That was criminal the way that woman was treated.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 02:55:35 PM
More Searchers Needed, Billie Dunn Calls Reports "Untrue"  (with video)

Marc Klaas, founder of an advocate group to help find missing children, tells KTAB's Tiffany Tatro that not as many volunteers showed up to assist in search efforts as he was hoping for Friday morning.
Klaas made a plea for help Thursday afternoon. He and members of his group are helping to organize volunteer searchers. They're also receiving help from the Laura Recovery Center.

On Wednesday, more than 50 people took part in the search. On Thursday, that numbers dwindled to less than half of the previous day's total.

Klaas said he's hopeful more people will be out assisting over the weekend.

Tatro also sat down with Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer to discuss reports on Thursday's Nancy Grace program that physical evidence relating to Hailey Dunn was found in a recent landfill search. Kampfer reiterated that he can not confirm that. Kampfer said if physical evidence was discovered, he would expect to know about it.

Kampfer also said he's not aware of any findings related to Thursday's searches of landfills in Colorado City and Snyder.

Billie Dunn, Hailey's mother, says she's spoken with Klaas and law enforcement about the report on Nancy Grace. She labeled it "untrue."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333816



Which part is untrue? I can't make heads or tails of Kampfer's statements.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 03:01:18 PM
Thursday, January 21, 2011

THE LATEST IN THE CASE OF MISSING 13 YEAR OLD HAILEY DUNN THE SEARCH HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO BUILDINGS IN SCURRY AND MITCHELL COUNTIES AND ADDITIONAL LANDFILLS ACCORDING TO COLORADO CITY CITY MANAGER PETE KAMPFER. AT THIS TIME SHAWN ADKINS IS STILL THE ONLY NAMED SUSPECT IN THE CASE BUT ACCORDING TO KAMPFER THERE ARE SEVERAL PERSONS OF INTEREST IN THE CASE WHO MAY HAVE OR KNOW INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO THE CASE. KAMPFER DID NOT NAME ANY OF THE PERSONS OF INTEREST. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONTACT THE COLORADO CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AT 325-728-5294.

http://am.kbst.com/page.php?34

Could the "couple of other people" who failed polygraphs be Shawn's mom and uncle.  Are these two revealing all they know regarding Shawn's unplanned visit to Big Springs on the morning of December 27th?  Did Shawn's cousin play a role?

Janet

++++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


GRACE: What about that, Billie? I know that she was seen by neighbors around lunchtime, noon in the backyard by herself, talking on a cell phone, right?

DUNN: Right. And I`m guessing the police would have asked that same neighbor, was my car here yet? Was Shawn home yet? They`ve talked to his mom and an uncle who stopped by his mom`s house saying that he was there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: ... They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. I told them I had so much faith in that test.

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it, lost all faith in the test. A couple of other people failed it. One guy I do not know. One person took it three times, took it twice and failed it...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 21, 2011, 03:04:33 PM
More Searchers Needed, Billie Dunn Calls Reports "Untrue"  (with video)

Marc Klaas, founder of an advocate group to help find missing children, tells KTAB's Tiffany Tatro that not as many volunteers showed up to assist in search efforts as he was hoping for Friday morning.
Klaas made a plea for help Thursday afternoon. He and members of his group are helping to organize volunteer searchers. They're also receiving help from the Laura Recovery Center.

On Wednesday, more than 50 people took part in the search. On Thursday, that numbers dwindled to less than half of the previous day's total.

Klaas said he's hopeful more people will be out assisting over the weekend.

Tatro also sat down with Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer to discuss reports on Thursday's Nancy Grace program that physical evidence relating to Hailey Dunn was found in a recent landfill search. Kampfer reiterated that he can not confirm that. Kampfer said if physical evidence was discovered, he would expect to know about it.

Kampfer also said he's not aware of any findings related to Thursday's searches of landfills in Colorado City and Snyder.

Billie Dunn, Hailey's mother, says she's spoken with Klaas and law enforcement about the report on Nancy Grace. She labeled it "untrue."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333816



Which part is untrue? I can't make heads or tails of Kampfer's statements.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Do you think the reason for the decline in number of searchers is due to MK's telling BD that she may be alive and was a stranger abduction. People may think the searches are not necessary. The people have turned out daily up until now but since BD has been making these statements backed by MK people are not going out to search for a live person in fields and river beds.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 21, 2011, 03:12:42 PM
4 Donks locals on WS were saying it was because of the cold temps, could be a combination of both.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: 4 Donks on January 21, 2011, 03:14:38 PM
4 Donks locals on WS were saying it was because of the cold temps, could be a combination of both.
Thanks NRCG


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 03:15:33 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

Why not condoning Billie poor choices that put Hailey at risk ... I agree.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: redquartz on January 21, 2011, 03:15:53 PM
I wish they would get TES out there. I'm wondering that the reason they don't is because TES would find out much more than they are willing to tell now about what happened. Doesn't he ask a lot of questions in the beginning of his searches?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
self edit - last post

Why s/b While



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 03:20:16 PM
4 Donks locals on WS were saying it was because of the cold temps, could be a combination of both.

Cold Temperature?

The very reason I do not believe that Hailey left her home alive.  She would not have ventured out without her jacket.  IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Curly on January 21, 2011, 03:21:07 PM
WOW samarie. That is aweful that you have been through not only 1 but 2 family members gone and no justice!!! What happen did they not find the person or persons that did this to them. Omg hunny wow I could not imagine. I went to zahra bakers memorial and it was the hardest thing I ever did in my life. I even went 2 the house. It was so scary there.  It was just cold. I am still in shock of what you just posted. I just wonder if the when hailey's brother found the earing idf he even told his dad or did he just take it home and gave it to billie?

In 1980 (I'm dating myself here) my best friend, who was like a sister to me, never made it to work. Several friends knew something was wrong right away and tried to report it to LE, but because she was 18, a missing persons report couldn't be filed until she was missing for 24hrs. I heard she was gone when I got out of work late that evening, I really wasn't overly concerned at the time, although it wasn't like her to just disappear like that without telling someone, I was sure she would turn up unharmed. The next morning her dead, naked, body was discovered on a local beach. She had been bound, there was no sign of sexual assault, she was wearing only a necklace and there was trace evidence under her fingernails. According to the ME report, her larynx had been crushed and they estimated that it took approximately 8 hours for her to succomb to her injuries. 8hrs! WTF, somebody couldn't have left her in a hospital parking lot where she could have been found? I showed up at the police station Mpnday morning, told them I wanted to speak with the lead detective on the case and that I was one of her closest friends. Holy crap! I can assure you LE can be intimidating, they will lie, they will falsify reports and they can get tunnel vision. No one has ever been arrested for her murder. I can say that about 5yrs ago a detctive and NCIS agent appeared at my door ( I moved over 300miles away) and they were reviewing the case and get this....the evidence from under her nails was still viable. They have the DNA profile of her murderer, but cannot put a name or a face to the profile.
This is when I found out LE had lied to me in the beginning, and lied on there investigstive reports. I was floored. Anyway, I'm not giving up until I'm dead, even LE has told me, we don't ever expect to solve this case, it's been too long. I have news for them, I'm not giving up and neither is her family.

I'll save the story about my brother for another time.....

I too wonder about Naomi? Is she helping, in some capacity, to find Hailey? I don't know, but would like too

Oh God, Samarie..That is awful. I hope there will be a resolution at some point in time.

Let's hope they actually solve this Haleigh case.. At this point in time, I have my doubts.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 21, 2011, 03:45:42 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

Why not condoning Billie poor choices that put Hailey at risk ... I agree.

Janet

I raised 3 kids single handed and I'll be the first to admit I was from from perfect. Life is a process of personal evolution, our personality and perceptions are ever changing based on our own personal experiences. I'm sure in hindsight others here would be honest in admitting that they too have made some questionable decisions regarding significant others and with regards to their parenting skills, we all make mistakes...difference is, our child isn't missing and we haven't been put under a microscope of suspiscion and had our lives picked apart and judged by those who don't know us.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 21, 2011, 03:50:55 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

Why not condoning Billie poor choices that put Hailey at risk ... I agree.

Janet

I raised 3 kids single handed and I'll be the first to admit I was from from perfect. Life is a process of personal evolution, our personality and perceptions are ever changing based on our own personal experiences. I'm sure in hindsight others here would be honest in admitting that they too have made some questionable decisions regarding significant others and with regards to their parenting skills, we all make mistakes...difference is, our child isn't missing and we haven't been put under a microscope of suspiscion and had our lives picked apart and judged by those who don't know us.
So very true, and you said it so much better than I could have. Just imagine being a mom or dad with a missing child, and everything you say, wear and do, someone is there examining every aspect of it. We all I'm sure have made questionable decisions, and I can't imagine if I were in that position how I would be ripping apart everything I did and the guilt of thinking that the child is gone because I did something wrong.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

While not condoning Billie poor choices that put Hailey at risk ... I agree.

Janet

I raised 3 kids single handed and I'll be the first to admit I was from from perfect. Life is a process of personal evolution, our personality and perceptions are ever changing based on our own personal experiences. I'm sure in hindsight others here would be honest in admitting that they too have made some questionable decisions regarding significant others and with regards to their parenting skills, we all make mistakes...difference is, our child isn't missing and we haven't been put under a microscope of suspiscion and had our lives picked apart and judged by those who don't know us.

You are right ... we all make "mistakes".

Nevertheless ... allowing Shawn back into the home following threats against her life and the life of Clint as well as well as alleged threats against the life of Hailey is more than a "mistake".  It was putting Hailey at risk.  Billie was thinking about her unconditional love for Shawn when the consideration should have been her children's well being.

There would be no second chances for ANYBODY who threatened the life of my grandchildren.

Janet

++++++


It's Going to Happen

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: I broke up with this guy a couple of days ago, and he`s a little MHMR (ph). And he`s telling me that he`s going to kill me and my ex-husband and that it`s going to be remembered for a long time. And he keeps on texting me and texting me. And I`ve texted back just to try to calm him down a little, but he said it`s going to happen.

BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

BILLIE DUNN: Hello. My name is Billie. My boyfriend and I just broke up yesterday.

911 OPERATOR: And what is his name?

BILLIE DUNN: His name is Shawn Adkins. And he`s telling me that he`s going to kill me.

<snipped>

BILLIE DUNN: And he`s telling me that he`s going to kill me. He said it`s going to happen.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 04:30:27 PM
On the other hand, I don't think it is right to throw the light of suspicion on Clint or his girlfriend, because they are grieving parents too. I have even heard some suspicions of David and he's whereabouts and motives when Hailey went missing.. If it isn't right to dissect Billie and her statement and behaviors, it isn't right to do the same to Clint, in my view.

We don't know what the circumstances of what their married life together was, or what caused the divorce. Just because we haven't heard how much support Clint has been for his kids, we shouldn't criticize his lifestyle or decisions either. If one parent should be judged as a victim of the child being missing, it should be true for the other. Clint must not have been too bad of a father to Hailey. She wanted to live with him. JMO

Maybe we should just come here for the  news releases, and not discuss our reactions to them and let the chips fall where they may. It would make for a very dull thread, but it would sure keep the conflicts down.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 04:41:12 PM
There were waving red flags that Hailey's life was at risk ... waving red flags that Billie disregarded.  Her need for what she preceived as "love" took priority.  Hailey reaped the ultimate consequence.  That little girl deserved so much more.  I know Billie is hurting but ... she needs to face reality ... take personal responsibility for her selfish choices ... for her failure to protect her daughter despite the waving red flags.

Until then ... denial will be the name of the game ... a game that will only distance the truth and deny Hailey justice..

Janet

+++++


Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim
Thursday, January 20 2011


Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.

"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.

"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 21, 2011, 04:57:08 PM
On the other hand, I don't think it is right to throw the light of suspicion on Clint or his girlfriend, because they are grieving parents too. I have even heard some suspicions of David and he's whereabouts and motives when Hailey went missing.. If it isn't right to dissect Billie and her statement and behaviors, it isn't right to do the same to Clint, in my view.

We don't know what the circumstances of what their married life together was, or what caused the divorce. Just because we haven't heard how much support Clint has been for his kids, we shouldn't criticize his lifestyle or decisions either. If one parent should be judged as a victim of the child being missing, it should be true for the other. Clint must not have been too bad of a father to Hailey. She wanted to live with him. JMO

Maybe we should just come here for the  news releases, and not discuss our reactions to them and let the chips fall where they may. It would make for a very dull thread, but it would sure keep the conflicts down.

I don't think Billie or Clint had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance and to me they both look devastated. I think it's easier to "dissect" Billie because she is the parent that has taken the role of dealing with the media, while Clint has worked more closely with the searchers and stayed away from the cameras. In my opinion searching and media attention to keep the case in the forefront are both important tools in helping to locate Hailey. It's just easier to be suspicsious of Billie's comment and contradictions, because she has put herself out there, so to speak. I'm not knocking either parent, I just feel they should rule out ALL family members first and then concentrate on others. And before assuming a child is a runaway, treat the case as a missing peron/crime first...I wonder how much evidence and lost time can be attributed to the intial assumption that Hailey was a runaway. We can all thank Susan Smith for putting parents at the top of the suspect list when a child goes missing.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 04:57:08 PM
Coming soon to KRBC First at Five: law enforcement takes on the Nancy Grace folks in the Hailey Dunn case. #haileydunn

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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 04:57:32 PM
On the other hand, I don't think it is right to throw the light of suspicion on Clint or his girlfriend, because they are grieving parents too. I have even heard some suspicions of David and he's whereabouts and motives when Hailey went missing.. If it isn't right to dissect Billie and her statement and behaviors, it isn't right to do the same to Clint, in my view.

We don't know what the circumstances of what their married life together was, or what caused the divorce. Just because we haven't heard how much support Clint has been for his kids, we shouldn't criticize his lifestyle or decisions either. If one parent should be judged as a victim of the child being missing, it should be true for the other. Clint must not have been too bad of a father to Hailey. She wanted to live with him. JMO

Maybe we should just come here for the  news releases, and not discuss our reactions to them and let the chips fall where they may. It would make for a very dull thread, but it would sure keep the conflicts down.

I don't think that anybody on this forum is throwing suspicion at Clint or Billie for involvement in the disappearance of Hailey.  ALL that has been revealed implies that Shawn should is the focus.

However ... when it comes to a trial ... the prosecution must prove that ... in the process of elimination ... Billie and Clint both were investigated and ruled out as possible persons of interest in the disappearance of Hailey.  The defence will have all the info regarding the negative aspects of their respective lifestyles ... character and ... any criminal records.

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 05:19:26 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

[snip]

Clint Dunn later said he is meeting with a private investigator Wednesday, and also with a psychic, to pursue any possible new leads. He said that he would not be going out with search parties through fields because he wouldn't want to see his daughter that way.

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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 05:28:26 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

[snip]

Clint Dunn later said he is meeting with a private investigator Wednesday, and also with a psychic, to pursue any possible new leads. He said that he would not be going out with search parties through fields because he wouldn't want to see his daughter that way.

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Thanks SEAHORSE, I wonder if he ever did?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 21, 2011, 06:01:50 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333916

No Evidence Found in Thursday's Landfill Search


Reported by: Laura Kellerman
Friday, January 21 2011

Thursday's search of the Colorado City landfills turned up no evidence in the disappearance of 13-year-old Hailey Dunn, the Mitchell County Sheriff told bigcountryhomepage.com today.

The search included cadaver dogs. Searchers arrived at around 1:30 p.m. and left before 3 p.m.  They combed over things that may have been missed the during their initial search of the landfills.

The first time the Colorado City landfill was searched was closer to the time Hailey went missing.  To see aerial video of the landfill, click on the video player.

Colorado City city manager Pete Kampfer told bigcountryhomepage.com the investigation into Hailey's disappearance continues to have a criminal focus. After receiving 10 leads a day in the early part of the investigation, credible tips have now dwindled to 3-5 each day.

Dunn was last seen on Dec. 27 at her home in Colorado City.  The reward for information leading to her safe return is now $15,000.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2011, 06:08:56 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

[snip]

Clint Dunn later said he is meeting with a private investigator Wednesday, and also with a psychic, to pursue any possible new leads. He said that he would not be going out with search parties through fields because he wouldn't want to see his daughter that way.

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Thanks SEAHORSE, I wonder if he ever did?

 Fanny Mae ::HelloKitty::

YW

According to this article a couple investigators have volunteered.  I do not know if there services were accepted or not.
Many searches have taken place and continue to be active. Clint sounds is all over Texas.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/17/false-alarm-reported-case-missing-colorado-city-te/
(Monday's article)

snip...

But Dunn said he has received dozens of calls from folks willing to offer assistance
We have had two private investigators volunteer to help," he said.

He said he has plans to take the search to El Paso and to pass out fliers in Spanish.

"We are just trying to look under some rocks and tear up some road," Clint Dunn said.

Kampfer said investigators continue to work on leads in the case and have been searching in Mitchell, Howard, Nolan and Scurry counties.

Meanwhile, members of Hailey's Angels — a search team with volunteers from all over the state — continued their search Monday on County Road 218 in northern Mitchell County near its border with Scurry County. snip.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 06:18:07 PM
Hailey Dunn: Unfolding a story of a missing teenager and her family
By Brian Bethel
Published Saturday, January 8, 2011


A search of website publicdata.com reveals no criminal histories for Billie Jean Dunn or for Shawn Adkins. Clint Dunn, however, has multiple arrests, starting in 1994 for burglary of a building, a state jail felony. Following that are subsequent arrests in 1998 for possession of marijuana, under 2 ounces, one in March 1999 for driving with a suspended license.

He was arrested again Jan. 30, 2010, by Snyder police for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces. And he was arrested at his home Dec. 29, again for possession of marijuana under 2 ounces, and a Scurry County warrant.

In 2008, Billie Jean Dunn’s license to practice nursing in the state was revoked by the Texas Board of Nursing. According to the group’s formal charges, Dunn practiced as a vocational nurse without a license from June 1, 2007, to April 20, 2008, while employed at Cogdell Memorial Hospital in Snyder. Board records indicate her license expired May 31, 2007.

Dunn’s conduct “deceived residents, their families, fellow caregivers and the public,” who believed that her practice of nursing was in compliance with the board’s rules and regulations, according to the board’s findings. Dunn was, according to the board, given an opportunity to show compliance with state law to retain her license.

The case was heard in an open meeting in Austin on Nov. 12, 2008. Dunn did not appear, the record says.

According to tax records, the Dunns still collectively own their home at 1804 Chestnut, which they purchased in November 2001. Clinton Dunn owned 1143 Chestnut until 2008.

http://m.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/08/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/?partner=RSS




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 06:43:30 PM
Was Billie was the sole financial provider for her children?  Was Clint employed?  Did Clint contribute through child support?

Thanks

Janet

++++++ 


9-1-1 Calls Won't Help Find Hailey, Mom Says
Wednesday, January 19 2011


A call later placed by Adkins said Billie was trying to kill herself.

"I wouldn't kill myself for sure.  I have two children and I'm really their only caregiver. I'm the one who buys their food, their clothes.  If they need me, I'm their mother."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332976


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 06:48:28 PM
Prayer vigil for Hailey at First Baptist Church

A prayer vigil for Hailey Dunn will be held at the First Baptist Church gym, 3rd and Chestnut this evening from 7 to 8 p.m. As the search for Hailey continues, middle school students from Colorado Middle School are taking pre-orders for Hailey tshirts. The shirts are $7 for Adult sizes small through 1X and $9 for 2X and 3X. All proceeds go toward the search for Hailey. Find Hailey buttons with Hailey's picture are also being printed. Anyone wishing to help search, should meet at the Civic Center at 9 a.m. each day until Sunday. Members from the Laura Recovery Center and the Klaas Kids Foundation will be on hand to help train and coordinate search efforts. The civic center will serve as the staging area for volunteer searches through Sunday and will be open from 9 a.m. until 5 p.m. Search teams will be formed in groups of 10 and the last search team will be sent out each day at 3:30 p.m. Searchers need to be at least 18 years old and wear closed toe shoes and sturdy clothing. Snacks and water will be provided. Searchers are also welcome at Dairy Queen for discounted meals by identifying themselves as members of any of the volunteer groups out searching.

http://ccitynews.net/news/story/2011/01/prayer-vigil-hailey-first-baptist-church


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: my2cents on January 21, 2011, 06:54:36 PM

jus a lil one........I don't know if she is just normally like that or what, it's just odd.

I found the info from last night, can't remember the nights when it was mentioned


BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been awesome.

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It may have been on one of the local interviews she did, but I remember her saying she didn't notice whether Hailey was missing and earring when she came home from Clint's. Anyway, no more talking bad about Billie from me. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/images1.jpg)
I am still learning to keep my foot out of mouth while posting.....so take this for what it is worth:
 I don't find your observations to be 'bad mouthing' Billie.
I find them to be honest reactions to what you see, hear and infer.
Tol
I agree with Tol...and Fannie I  enjoy your posts ...you are one of my favorite posters.....that is the great thing about SM is that you can have an opinion and post it without being attacked ....please keep posting your thoughts... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 07:10:44 PM
THE RED HOOP EARRING

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 19, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 20, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: To Billie Dunn. You believe -- you told me that she was wearing those earrings over Christmas. Did she spend the night with her father Christmas evening?

DUNN: She did.

GRACE: Are you absolutely positive she had the earrings on Sunday, the next day?
 
DUNN: No, I`m not.

GRACE: So him saying --

DUNN: I noticed that she had taken them out.

GRACE: Yes. So him saying she left it there Christmas night is entirely possible, correct?

DUNN: Yes.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/20/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 07:14:08 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

[snip]

Clint Dunn later said he is meeting with a private investigator Wednesday, and also with a psychic, to pursue any possible new leads. He said that he would not be going out with search parties through fields because he wouldn't want to see his daughter that way.

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Thanks SEAHORSE, I wonder if he ever did?

 Fanny Mae ::HelloKitty::

YW

According to this article a couple investigators have volunteered.  I do not know if there services were accepted or not.
Many searches have taken place and continue to be active. Clint sounds is all over Texas.

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/17/false-alarm-reported-case-missing-colorado-city-te/
(Monday's article)

snip...

But Dunn said he has received dozens of calls from folks willing to offer assistance
We have had two private investigators volunteer to help," he said.

He said he has plans to take the search to El Paso and to pass out fliers in Spanish.

"We are just trying to look under some rocks and tear up some road," Clint Dunn said.

Kampfer said investigators continue to work on leads in the case and have been searching in Mitchell, Howard, Nolan and Scurry counties.

Meanwhile, members of Hailey's Angels — a search team with volunteers from all over the state — continued their search Monday on County Road 218 in northern Mitchell County near its border with Scurry County. snip.



(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/snowindow.gif)  I'm glad he is getting help and is using whatever resources to look for Hailey. I don't have a problem with using a psychic. I only hope he doesn't use that goofy one from Virginia who was supposedly helping Spindy and Dom find Caylee in the woods. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/thfortuneteller-1.gif)



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 07:21:45 PM

jus a lil one........I don't know if she is just normally like that or what, it's just odd.

I found the info from last night, can't remember the nights when it was mentioned


BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been awesome.

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It may have been on one of the local interviews she did, but I remember her saying she didn't notice whether Hailey was missing and earring when she came home from Clint's. Anyway, no more talking bad about Billie from me. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/images1.jpg)
I am still learning to keep my foot out of mouth while posting.....so take this for what it is worth:
 I don't find your observations to be 'bad mouthing' Billie.
I find them to be honest reactions to what you see, hear and infer.
Tol
I agree with Tol...and Fannie I  enjoy your posts ...you are one of my favorite posters.....that is the great thing about SM is that you can have an opinion and post it without being attacked ....please keep posting your thoughts... ::MonkeyRoll::

Thank you MY2CENTS. That was very sweet of you. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/computer2.gif) I just want to keep harmony on the thread as it is really about Hailey and I just want her to be found like everyone else.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on January 21, 2011, 07:26:35 PM

jus a lil one........I don't know if she is just normally like that or what, it's just odd.

I found the info from last night, can't remember the nights when it was mentioned


BILLIE DUNN: We had a rocky relationship. The last year, things have been really good. The last six months, things have been awesome.

GRACE: What can you tell me about that earring, Billie, the earring that was found on Clint Dunn`s living room floor? Did it match what Hailey was wearing when she went missing?

BILLIE DUNN: Yes. I reported when she was missing that I thought she was wearing those red hoop earrings. She had been wearing them for about a week. She was actually trying to stretch out her earlobe, and I told her she could use those, but that`s the biggest she could go and she had been wearing them. And David found the earring on the floor whenever Clint and Naomi (ph) were moving out and brought it home.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/19/ng.01.html

It may have been on one of the local interviews she did, but I remember her saying she didn't notice whether Hailey was missing and earring when she came home from Clint's. Anyway, no more talking bad about Billie from me. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/images1.jpg)
I am still learning to keep my foot out of mouth while posting.....so take this for what it is worth:
 I don't find your observations to be 'bad mouthing' Billie.
I find them to be honest reactions to what you see, hear and infer.
Tol
I agree with Tol...and Fannie I  enjoy your posts ...you are one of my favorite posters.....that is the great thing about SM is that you can have an opinion and post it without being attacked ....please keep posting your thoughts... ::MonkeyRoll::
I agree !
I learned early on that one must become   thick skinned to post on any public forum. No 2 people think alike. IF we did what a borng life it would be !

I enjoy Fannie 's posts, among others.

Klaas is here to moderate our posts and keep us in line. She is very good at what she does. That is why I am here. IF I do not agree with a poster, I say so tactfully, and then ignore if need be !







Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on January 21, 2011, 07:30:52 PM
It seems as if a missing child brings out many "kooks" from their hiding places.

I don't have much faith in psychics, but I do believe that forensic astronomy
sounds promising. ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 07:31:22 PM
Dunn, Law Enforcement Debunk Nancy Grace Reports

Billie Dunn couldn't be happier about having her missing daughter's face on TV sets across the country. While Dunn appreciates all the attention Hailey is receiving, she's not happy with everything that is being said.
Hailey Dunn's disappearance from Colorado City has been featured on HLN's "Nancy Grace" four nights this week. Billie Dunn says some moments in the show have been difficult to watch and experience.

"It makes me mad. It frustrates me that ratings are more important to some people than my daughter being found," said Dunn.

Billie Dunn tells KTAB News that not everything that's been said on the show is entirely true.

"Anything bad that they can find on us, true or untrue, they put up there over and over and over again," said Dunn. "I just wish we would get back to this 13-year-old Hailey Dunn isn't in her house -- she's missing."

Dunn said she agreed to do the show to get Hailey's face out there. But now, it's gone in a completely different direction.

"It does scare me and it upsets me when I'm sitting on Nancy Grace and they say they're at the landfill with cadaver dogs," Dunn said. "That scares me. I do know law enforcement has told me, 'Billie, you'll be the first one that we tell if we get a big breakthrough in the case'."

Dunn said when most show broadcasts are over, she calls law enforcement "scared to death." Often, officers have to calm her down.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has told KTAB News that he'd likely know if there was a major development of that nature. He continues to tell KTAB News he can't confirm anything after previously labeling the search in Abilene "unsuccessful."

On Friday, Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs essentially said the report on Nancy Grace wasn't true.

"As far as I know, there's not anything that was found over there pertains to the investigation," said Toombs.

Sheriff Toombs also told KTAB News Thursday's searches in Colorado City and Snyder didn't turn up any evidence.

After learning the reports were inaccurate, Dunn says she's though twice about participating in the show. At one point during Wednesday's broadcast, she even walked out.

"I wish they could get back to the way the show was at first," said Dunn. "We were all looking for Hailey and all wanted information on Hailey."

Dunn says, either way, she'll continue to do whatever it takes to get her daughter's face in the media

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333966


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 21, 2011, 08:01:38 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 08:09:08 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 08:13:43 PM
I agree !
I learned early on that one must become   thick skinned to post on any public forum. No 2 people think alike. IF we did what a borng life it would be !

I enjoy Fannie 's posts, among others.

Klaas is here to moderate our posts and keep us in line. She is very good at what she does. That is why I am here. IF I do not agree with a poster, I say so tactfully, and then ignore if need be !







(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/thanks-drawing.gif) LAKE ERIE PRINCESS. I enjoy you posts too. I think everyone contributes to this thread and only wants the best for Hailey. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/chillout.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 08:20:55 PM
Dunn, Law Enforcement Debunk Nancy Grace Reports

Billie Dunn couldn't be happier about having her missing daughter's face on TV sets across the country. While Dunn appreciates all the attention Hailey is receiving, she's not happy with everything that is being said.
Hailey Dunn's disappearance from Colorado City has been featured on HLN's "Nancy Grace" four nights this week. Billie Dunn says some moments in the show have been difficult to watch and experience.

"It makes me mad. It frustrates me that ratings are more important to some people than my daughter being found," said Dunn.

Billie Dunn tells KTAB News that not everything that's been said on the show is entirely true.

"Anything bad that they can find on us, true or untrue, they put up there over and over and over again," said Dunn. "I just wish we would get back to this 13-year-old Hailey Dunn isn't in her house -- she's missing."

Dunn said she agreed to do the show to get Hailey's face out there. But now, it's gone in a completely different direction.

"It does scare me and it upsets me when I'm sitting on Nancy Grace and they say they're at the landfill with cadaver dogs," Dunn said. "That scares me. I do know law enforcement has told me, 'Billie, you'll be the first one that we tell if we get a big breakthrough in the case'."

Dunn said when most show broadcasts are over, she calls law enforcement "scared to death." Often, officers have to calm her down.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has told KTAB News that he'd likely know if there was a major development of that nature. He continues to tell KTAB News he can't confirm anything after previously labeling the search in Abilene "unsuccessful."

On Friday, Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs essentially said the report on Nancy Grace wasn't true.

"As far as I know, there's not anything that was found over there pertains to the investigation," said Toombs.

Sheriff Toombs also told KTAB News Thursday's searches in Colorado City and Snyder didn't turn up any evidence.

After learning the reports were inaccurate, Dunn says she's though twice about participating in the show. At one point during Wednesday's broadcast, she even walked out.

"I wish they could get back to the way the show was at first," said Dunn. "We were all looking for Hailey and all wanted information on Hailey."

Dunn says, either way, she'll continue to do whatever it takes to get her daughter's face in the media

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333966
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/soapbox.gif)
I personally think if they would put a zipper on Kampfer's mouth and Trooper Sparky whenever he pops up, the investigation might have more credibility. Last news presser Kampfer said there would be no more regular pressers, and he has run his mouth every day since then causing more and more confusion.I think he should go back to the city's business and leave the law enforcement to the lawmen. JMO


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 08:23:41 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet

I just wish that Billie would use some of her insight to comprehend the obvious involvement that Shawn Adkins had in the disappearance of her daughter.  That guy has such an emotional hold on her and he is so not worth it.  Why doesn't she get it!

Janet




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 08:28:40 PM
Dunn, Law Enforcement Debunk Nancy Grace Reports

Billie Dunn couldn't be happier about having her missing daughter's face on TV sets across the country. While Dunn appreciates all the attention Hailey is receiving, she's not happy with everything that is being said.
Hailey Dunn's disappearance from Colorado City has been featured on HLN's "Nancy Grace" four nights this week. Billie Dunn says some moments in the show have been difficult to watch and experience.

"It makes me mad. It frustrates me that ratings are more important to some people than my daughter being found," said Dunn.

Billie Dunn tells KTAB News that not everything that's been said on the show is entirely true.

"Anything bad that they can find on us, true or untrue, they put up there over and over and over again," said Dunn. "I just wish we would get back to this 13-year-old Hailey Dunn isn't in her house -- she's missing."

Dunn said she agreed to do the show to get Hailey's face out there. But now, it's gone in a completely different direction.

"It does scare me and it upsets me when I'm sitting on Nancy Grace and they say they're at the landfill with cadaver dogs," Dunn said. "That scares me. I do know law enforcement has told me, 'Billie, you'll be the first one that we tell if we get a big breakthrough in the case'."

Dunn said when most show broadcasts are over, she calls law enforcement "scared to death." Often, officers have to calm her down.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has told KTAB News that he'd likely know if there was a major development of that nature. He continues to tell KTAB News he can't confirm anything after previously labeling the search in Abilene "unsuccessful."

On Friday, Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs essentially said the report on Nancy Grace wasn't true.

"As far as I know, there's not anything that was found over there pertains to the investigation," said Toombs.

Sheriff Toombs also told KTAB News Thursday's searches in Colorado City and Snyder didn't turn up any evidence.

After learning the reports were inaccurate, Dunn says she's though twice about participating in the show. At one point during Wednesday's broadcast, she even walked out.

"I wish they could get back to the way the show was at first," said Dunn. "We were all looking for Hailey and all wanted information on Hailey."

Dunn says, either way, she'll continue to do whatever it takes to get her daughter's face in the media

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333966
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/soapbox.gif)
I personally think if they would put a zipper on Kampfer's mouth and Trooper Sparky whenever he pops up, the investigation might have more credibility.  Last news presser Kampfer said there would be no more regular pressers, and he has run his mouth every day since then causing more and more confusion.I think he should go back to the city's business and leave the law enforcement to the lawmen. JMO

 ::rhino::

I usually anticipating PC regarding investigations.  However ... every time Kampfer and Sparky open their mouth ... the words that spew out lead me to believe that the investigation is going everywhere ... is going nowhere.  I sincerely hope there are outside LE agencies overlooking this case.

The focus no longer appears to be Shawn.  I could be wrong. 

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 08:34:21 PM
New Measures In Place To Help Find Hailey (with video)

Colorado City may seem like a relatively small place, but once you start looking for something specific, it can seem huge.

"We are learning how to do the mapping, so their is accountability. We are learning how to do the forms, so there is accountability. We document everything," volunteer Bill Markunas said. 

In order to make sure every inch of Colorado City is comb looking for Hailey, crews will now go by the book, the Laura Recovery Center Manual. Volunteers have to complete a 3 hour training on this book and how to use it in the field.

"We are learning how they document things, so someone doesn't tamper with evidence. That's the biggest thing we have learned," Markunas said.

They will now fill out paper work while they are searching to document what they see. If they find something suspicious, they have to mark it with a ribbon and write down what it was and were it was found. They also have to document who found the item, along with other members in the group.

"The community here has done a tremendous job, they are amazing. They have searched a ton of property. The frustrating thing from the investigators is we don't know what's been searched. So that's what we are trying to do right now," said Brad Dennis, Director of Search Operations for KLAASKIDS.

Each group will also be given a specific place to search, so they know exactly were people have searched and that it's been documented.

"It's to make everything more thorough, make sure nothing is dropping through the cracks and obviously we want to be a benefit to the investigation," Dennis said.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333976


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 08:37:32 PM
Now they are saying investigators are frustrated because for the last 3 weeks the searchers have been searching they have no idea where they have looked.  Was it not early on the Kampfer had a call out for volunteer searchers and said it was a civilian effort?  Why did LE not work with them in the beginning?  Why did LE not use TES when they said they were ready to come and instead put them on standby?  Why now say they are frustrated that they have no idea where searchers have searched?  This investigation is way over the head of the local LE and should be taken over by someone else IMO.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 08:43:19 PM
Missing Teen's Mother Breaks Her Silence With KTXS (with video)

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Billie Dunn, the mother of Hailey, the missing Colorado City teen, spoke out to KTXS Friday, 10 days since Billie last spoke to us on-camera.

A family friend told us Billie shut KTXS out after we first released the affidavit information.

Hailey's mother told us Friday she's upset the focus of the search may be straying from finding her daughter alive. "I want people to know that as long as I can believe she's alive, I'm going to believe that. I want people looking for a living breathing Hailey."

Billie Dunn says the rumors are beginning to get to her.

Especially the finger pointing going on about her former live in boyfriend Shawn Adkins. "I think there's too much focus on him," said Billie.

She believes when police were asking people to come forward with information about Hailey their comments were directed toward Shawn, "I know Shawn had quit talking to them, after the intense interrogation, but I believe he did have to go back and make more statements."

This week, for the first time, Billie Dunn went to her daughter's school, and took time visiting with searchers as she works to keep the focus on Hailey.

"It's good to get out and do that," said Billie, "It's better than just sitting at home crying all the time, because that's what you do. You sit there and think about all the different possibilities."

When we asked Billie, why she has been refusing to talk to KTXS after we first released affidavit information, she explained watching all this unfold on T.V. is tough. "It takes a toll on you, but I have to do it. I have to speak for her right now."

Every morning searchers, dubbed "Hailey's Angels" meet at the Dunn bridge to pray, before they begin combing the fields.

"You turn down any road out here and there's people searching they're tearing it up," said Hailey's father Clint Dunn.

Meanwhile, Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs admits the law enforcement search is slowing, "Some things have slowed down. The number of leads have slowed down."

But he assures us the FBI, Rangers, and local officers are still out working the case. "We will continue to work on this as long as it takes to find her," said Sheriff Toombs.

A promise echoed by volunteer searchers and Hailey's own mom and dad.

"Missing kids come home," said Billie Dunn.

Clint Dunn added, "We're going to find her."

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26576929/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 08:48:35 PM
Missing Teen's Mother Breaks Her Silence With KTXS (with video)

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- Billie Dunn, the mother of Hailey, the missing Colorado City teen, spoke out to KTXS Friday, 10 days since Billie last spoke to us on-camera.

A family friend told us Billie shut KTXS out after we first released the affidavit information.

Hailey's mother told us Friday she's upset the focus of the search may be straying from finding her daughter alive. "I want people to know that as long as I can believe she's alive, I'm going to believe that. I want people looking for a living breathing Hailey."

Billie Dunn says the rumors are beginning to get to her.

Especially the finger pointing going on about her former live in boyfriend Shawn Adkins. "I think there's too much focus on him," said Billie.

She believes when police were asking people to come forward with information about Hailey their comments were directed toward Shawn, "I know Shawn had quit talking to them, after the intense interrogation, but I believe he did have to go back and make more statements."

This week, for the first time, Billie Dunn went to her daughter's school, and took time visiting with searchers as she works to keep the focus on Hailey.

"It's good to get out and do that," said Billie, "It's better than just sitting at home crying all the time, because that's what you do. You sit there and think about all the different possibilities."

When we asked Billie, why she has been refusing to talk to KTXS after we first released affidavit information, she explained watching all this unfold on T.V. is tough. "It takes a toll on you, but I have to do it. I have to speak for her right now."

Every morning searchers, dubbed "Hailey's Angels" meet at the Dunn bridge to pray, before they begin combing the fields.

"You turn down any road out here and there's people searching they're tearing it up," said Hailey's father Clint Dunn.

Meanwhile, Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs admits the law enforcement search is slowing, "Some things have slowed down. The number of leads have slowed down."

But he assures us the FBI, Rangers, and local officers are still out working the case. "We will continue to work on this as long as it takes to find her," said Sheriff Toombs.

A promise echoed by volunteer searchers and Hailey's own mom and dad.

"Missing kids come home," said Billie Dunn.

Clint Dunn added, "We're going to find her."

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26576929/detail.html

At least Sheriff Toombs has started speaking up. It sounds to me there is a big power struggle there in Colorado City.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 21, 2011, 08:57:35 PM
 Welcome to clinton dunn's page for their ChipIn event search efforts for hailey dunn. clinton dunn has not made any updates to this page yet. To make a contribution, click on the ChipIn! button on the right.

http://haileycomehome.chipin.com/search-efforts-for-hailey-dunn


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 21, 2011, 09:06:52 PM
Never heard of this CHIPIN

http://blog.chipin.com/fees/



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 09:14:23 PM
Welcome to clinton dunn's page for their ChipIn event search efforts for hailey dunn. clinton dunn has not made any updates to this page yet. To make a contribution, click on the ChipIn! button on the right.

http://haileycomehome.chipin.com/search-efforts-for-hailey-dunn

I thought Clint said he was wanting a bank fund for contributions for Billie and he didn't want anything.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cw618 on January 21, 2011, 09:15:58 PM
street view,of 1804 CHESTNUT ST,looks to be a duplex
house on right of map,on corner 18th and chestnut,the house
across the street is boarded up,wonder if it still is
http://www.vpike.com/?place=1804+Chestnut%2C+Colorado+City%2C+TX


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 09:39:56 PM
street view,of 1804 CHESTNUT ST,looks to be a duplex
house on right of map,on corner 18th and chestnut,the house
across the street is boarded up,wonder if it still is
http://www.vpike.com/?place=1804+Chestnut%2C+Colorado+City%2C+TX

What makes you think 1804 is a duplex? Because of the car parked on the side? I looked at it on Google maps and noticed the boarded up house across the street the other night too.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 09:43:50 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet

I just wish that Billie would use some of her insight to comprehend the obvious involvement that Shawn Adkins had in the disappearance of her daughter.  That guy has such an emotional hold on her and he is so not worth it.  Why doesn't she get it!

Janet


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Missing Teen's Mother Breaks Her Silence With KTXS
POSTED: 5:26 pm CST January 21, 2011
UPDATED: 7:23 pm CST January 21, 2011


Hailey's mother told us Friday she's upset the focus of the search may be straying from finding her daughter alive. "I want people to know that as long as I can believe she's alive, I'm going to believe that. I want people looking for a living breathing Hailey."

Billie Dunn says the rumors are beginning to get to her.

Especially the finger pointing going on about her former live in boyfriend Shawn Adkins. "I think there's too much focus on him," said Billie.

http://www.ktxs.com/big_country_news/26576929/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 21, 2011, 10:10:18 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet

I just wish that Billie would use some of her insight to comprehend the obvious involvement that Shawn Adkins had in the disappearance of her daughter.  That guy has such an emotional hold on her and he is so not worth it.  Why doesn't she get it!

Janet




...I'd even add that even if he DIDN'T have any involvement, look at the guy; he really isn't at ALL the kind of guy she'd want to have around her kids, particularly now that she has "learned" (cough cough)  more about him.  Seriously!  That being said, I'll be very very surprised if he (and the cousin) didn't both have something to do with it, even if the cousin just knew and covered.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 21, 2011, 10:14:33 PM
street view,of 1804 CHESTNUT ST,looks to be a duplex
house on right of map,on corner 18th and chestnut,the house
across the street is boarded up,wonder if it still is
http://www.vpike.com/?place=1804+Chestnut%2C+Colorado+City%2C+TX

I think what you're seeing that looks like a second door (to our right as we look at the front door) isn't anymore, but is instead a window now - I think.  I have to admit, it's tricky.  But I believe that this house is now a single-family residence.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 21, 2011, 10:18:53 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet

I just wish that Billie would use some of her insight to comprehend the obvious involvement that Shawn Adkins had in the disappearance of her daughter.  That guy has such an emotional hold on her and he is so not worth it.  Why doesn't she get it!

Janet




IMO if Billie admits all of that, then she has to accept what might have happened to Hailey - she's been telling us that she wants to talk about a live Hailey - that's what she wants - so she's not "emotionally ready" to accept stuff about Shawn.  I don't think it's because of what she cares for Shawn, I think it's because of what she thinks about Hailey.  She's not ready to think in any way except for a live Hailey.  She told us that more than one. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 10:20:35 PM
street view,of 1804 CHESTNUT ST,looks to be a duplex
house on right of map,on corner 18th and chestnut,the house
across the street is boarded up,wonder if it still is
http://www.vpike.com/?place=1804+Chestnut%2C+Colorado+City%2C+TX

I think what you're seeing that looks like a second door (to our right as we look at the front door) isn't anymore, but is instead a window now - I think.  I have to admit, it's tricky.  But I believe that this house is now a single-family residence.

My impression is it is a single family dwelling too. If you go around to the rear, there is a covered porch that looks like the same one in the video of Shawn scaring the poor dog back in the doghouse and then laughing about it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet

I just wish that Billie would use some of her insight to comprehend the obvious involvement that Shawn Adkins had in the disappearance of her daughter.  That guy has such an emotional hold on her and he is so not worth it.  Why doesn't she get it!

Janet




IMO if Billie admits all of that, then she has to accept what might have happened to Hailey - she's been telling us that she wants to talk about a live Hailey - that's what she wants - so she's not "emotionally ready" to accept stuff about Shawn.  I don't think it's because of what she cares for Shawn, I think it's because of what she thinks about Hailey.  She's not ready to think in any way except for a live Hailey.  She told us that more than one. 

I have a feeling we will not be seeing Billie on Nancy Grace anymore now that Mark is grooming her. He'll probably have her a makeover in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if she is not on the Today Show, or the other morning news shows.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 21, 2011, 10:25:50 PM
I checked the Mitchell County Tax records and a property description.  However, there's no listing of "A" and "B", etc to indicate a duplex. 

I am not linking because it contains personal information that I feel if people want the details, they can google.  I'd feel a little icky doing it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 21, 2011, 10:29:22 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet

I just wish that Billie would use some of her insight to comprehend the obvious involvement that Shawn Adkins had in the disappearance of her daughter.  That guy has such an emotional hold on her and he is so not worth it.  Why doesn't she get it!

Janet




IMO if Billie admits all of that, then she has to accept what might have happened to Hailey - she's been telling us that she wants to talk about a live Hailey - that's what she wants - so she's not "emotionally ready" to accept stuff about Shawn.  I don't think it's because of what she cares for Shawn, I think it's because of what she thinks about Hailey.  She's not ready to think in any way except for a live Hailey.  She told us that more than one. 

If I were she, and I had the possibility of someone *I* brought into the kids lives killing one of them - particularly having missed flat-out warnings both by Shawn as well as by the daughter, I wouldn't be able to handle it.  I really wouldn't.  I am sure that the psychologist that NG had on is absolutely correct in that Billie is in a lot of denial, and I'd add that it's probably protective denial because once she realizes the possibility of what she dragged her daughter into..... it's going to be really really bad.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 10:29:36 PM

...I'd even add that even if he DIDN'T have any involvement, look at the guy; he really isn't at ALL the kind of guy she'd want to have around her kids, particularly now that she has "learned" (cough cough)  more about him.  Seriously!  That being said, I'll be very very surprised if he (and the cousin) didn't both have something to do with it, even if the cousin just knew and covered.


BINGO!!


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: ... They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. I told them I had so much faith in that test.

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it, lost all faith in the test. A couple of other people failed it. One guy I do not know. One person took it three times, took it twice and failed it...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 21, 2011, 10:31:04 PM
I agree, I don't believe it's a duplex and to add, if the house across the street is the one that Clint and his girlfriend were living in it was no longer boarded up.

Don't forget, the images in Google Maps and other maps is not current.  If I google my house the image is from over 2 years ago.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 21, 2011, 10:35:07 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet

I just wish that Billie would use some of her insight to comprehend the obvious involvement that Shawn Adkins had in the disappearance of her daughter.  That guy has such an emotional hold on her and he is so not worth it.  Why doesn't she get it!

Janet




IMO if Billie admits all of that, then she has to accept what might have happened to Hailey - she's been telling us that she wants to talk about a live Hailey - that's what she wants - so she's not "emotionally ready" to accept stuff about Shawn.  I don't think it's because of what she cares for Shawn, I think it's because of what she thinks about Hailey.  She's not ready to think in any way except for a live Hailey.  She told us that more than one. 

I have a feeling we will not be seeing Billie on Nancy Grace anymore now that Mark is grooming her. He'll probably have her a makeover in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if she is not on the Today Show, or the other morning news shows.

You may have a point there.  It is interesting to hear how Billie has been feeling about NG, while we on our end have been frustrated with NG, too.  I thought, though, that Mark has some kind of affiliation with NG's show...maybe with NG being called out by LE that they can work something out that Billie will appear on NG "if" NG cuts out some of the "anything for ratings" stuff she pulls.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 21, 2011, 10:36:41 PM
I agree, I don't believe it's a duplex and to add, if the house across the street is the one that Clint and his girlfriend were living in it was no longer boarded up.

Don't forget, the images in Google Maps and other maps is not current.  If I google my house the image is from over 2 years ago.

I'm confused.  NG asked Billie to clear up where Clint lived - across the street or across the field.  Billie said across the "street".

Right?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 21, 2011, 10:43:48 PM
Well, Billie may not be as smart as some thinks she should be; but, there's one thing for sure - she's got NG's number!   ::MonkeyTongue::



You bet!

Janet

I just wish that Billie would use some of her insight to comprehend the obvious involvement that Shawn Adkins had in the disappearance of her daughter.  That guy has such an emotional hold on her and he is so not worth it.  Why doesn't she get it!

Janet




IMO if Billie admits all of that, then she has to accept what might have happened to Hailey - she's been telling us that she wants to talk about a live Hailey - that's what she wants - so she's not "emotionally ready" to accept stuff about Shawn.  I don't think it's because of what she cares for Shawn, I think it's because of what she thinks about Hailey.  She's not ready to think in any way except for a live Hailey.  She told us that more than one. 

If I were she, and I had the possibility of someone *I* brought into the kids lives killing one of them - particularly having missed flat-out warnings both by Shawn as well as by the daughter, I wouldn't be able to handle it.  I really wouldn't.  I am sure that the psychologist that NG had on is absolutely correct in that Billie is in a lot of denial, and I'd add that it's probably protective denial because once she realizes the possibility of what she dragged her daughter into..... it's going to be really really bad.

Agree and thought the psychologist on NG show is probably corrent that Billie is in a lot of denial. 

Also, she's responed a few time to questions by saying she didn't know that or hadn't heard that.  Now we're reading that after NG's shows she's calling LE and they're having to calm her down.  With this knowledge, it makes sense that she's now saying that LE has assured her if something big breaks in the case that they will tell her before they tell the press.  I guess she's made her point with LE that she doesn't want to hear something bad from the press or on the NG show as breaking news.



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 21, 2011, 10:50:54 PM
I agree, I don't believe it's a duplex and to add, if the house across the street is the one that Clint and his girlfriend were living in it was no longer boarded up.

Don't forget, the images in Google Maps and other maps is not current.  If I google my house the image is from over 2 years ago.

Yeah, the pictures in Google of my house and my childhood house are at least a good 1-2 years old.  I can tell by where I parked the horse trailers and what trucks I still had in the yard. -_-   So it's possible that the boarded up house across the street has been fixed since then. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 10:51:12 PM

IMO if Billie admits all of that, then she has to accept what might have happened to Hailey - she's been telling us that she wants to talk about a live Hailey - that's what she wants - so she's not "emotionally ready" to accept stuff about Shawn.  I don't think it's because of what she cares for Shawn, I think it's because of what she thinks about Hailey.  She's not ready to think in any way except for a live Hailey.  She told us that more than one. 

If I were she, and I had the possibility of someone *I* brought into the kids lives killing one of them - particularly having missed flat-out warnings both by Shawn as well as by the daughter, I wouldn't be able to handle it.  I really wouldn't.  I am sure that the psychologist that NG had on is absolutely correct in that Billie is in a lot of denial, and I'd add that it's probably protective denial because once she realizes the possibility of what she dragged her daughter into..... it's going to be really really bad.
[/quote]

... and Marc Klaas is abetting a desperate/volunerable Billie in that denial rather than encouraging her to accept the reality of it all.  This is the only way that Billie can move forward in a quest for answers and when those answers are forthcoming ... she can then move forward in the justice process.

1.  Marc knows that a live Hailey did not leave that home ... the jacket left behind tells the story.

2.  Marc knows that Shawn lied regarding his abrupt departure from his workplace a short time after arriving.

3.  Marc knows that Shawn lied about returning home after leaving his workplace ... returning home prior to driving to Big Bridge.

I am so disappointed in Marc Klaas.  There must be something that is clouding his judgement?  What is it?

Janet

++++++++

Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim
Thursday, January 20 2011


Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.

"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.

"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Shell on January 21, 2011, 10:52:08 PM


FYI...kind of O/T and not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but there is another 13 year old girl missing from Lubbock, Tx last seen Jan 5th. All I have so far is this Facebook link 

facebook.com/find.elizabeth.ennen


Thanks!

I created a thread for her in Missing Endangered Runaways:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=64.0
Lubbock is about an hour from CCity right? I find this disturbing and it does not sound like a run away to me. What the heck is going on? She has been missing since Jan 5 and again LE calls it a runaway and we are just hearing about this now. Why is Texas so quick to call so many cases a "runaway"?  ::MonkeyMad::

I do not think it is just Texas who is so quick to call so many cases a runaway.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 10:54:52 PM

IMO if Billie admits all of that, then she has to accept what might have happened to Hailey - she's been telling us that she wants to talk about a live Hailey - that's what she wants - so she's not "emotionally ready" to accept stuff about Shawn.  I don't think it's because of what she cares for Shawn, I think it's because of what she thinks about Hailey.  She's not ready to think in any way except for a live Hailey.  She told us that more than one. 

If I were she, and I had the possibility of someone *I* brought into the kids lives killing one of them - particularly having missed flat-out warnings both by Shawn as well as by the daughter, I wouldn't be able to handle it.  I really wouldn't.  I am sure that the psychologist that NG had on is absolutely correct in that Billie is in a lot of denial, and I'd add that it's probably protective denial because once she realizes the possibility of what she dragged her daughter into..... it's going to be really really bad.
[/quote]

... and Marc Klaas is abetting a desperate/volunerable Billie in that denial rather than encouraging her to accept the reality of it all.  This is the only way that Billie can move forward in a quest for answers and when those answers are forthcoming ... she can then move forward in the justice process.

1.  Marc knows that a live Hailey did not leave that home ... the jacket left behind tells the story.

2.  Marc knows that Shawn lied regarding his abrupt departure from his workplace a short time after arriving.

3.  Marc knows that Shawn lied about returning home after leaving his workplace ... returning home prior to driving to Big Bridge.

I am so disappointed in Marc Klaas.  There must be something that is clouding his judgement?  What is it?

Janet

++++++++

Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim
Thursday, January 20 2011


Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.

"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.

"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 10:58:03 PM
Klaas/Mods - Please delete post 882 and 884.  I really messed up.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 10:58:41 PM
starwynn

Marc Klaas is abetting a desperate/volunerable Billie in that denial rather than encouraging her to accept the reality of it all.  This is the only way that Billie can move forward in a quest for answers and when those answers are forthcoming ... she can then move forward in the justice process.

1.  Marc knows that a live Hailey did not leave that home ... the jacket left behind tells the story.

2.  Marc knows that Shawn lied regarding his abrupt departure from his workplace a short time after arriving.

3.  Marc knows that Shawn lied about returning home after leaving his workplace ... returning home prior to driving to Big Bridge.

I am so disappointed in Marc Klaas.  There must be something that is clouding his judgement?  What is it?

Janet

++++++++

Bond Forms Between Billie Dunn and Father of Murder Victim
Thursday, January 20 2011


Dunn couldn't help but fear the worst.

"(It's) the scariest thing ever," said Dunn. "I'm living every parent's nightmare. Right now, it's my reality."

Now that Marc Klaas, of KlaasKids, has come to town, Dunn tells KTAB News she has a renewed hope she'll see her daughter again.

"Instead of me being the only one saying it myself, now I have Marc and Brad telling me 'you can still be hopeful'," said Dunn. "Your daughter can still come home and be safe. You can get back to that normalcy."

Klaas says having personally been in Dunn's shoes before, he can relate to what she's going through and knows staying hopeful is what will keep her going.

"You know, if nothing else, I represent the aftermath," said Klaas. "I'm the light at the end of the tunnel? I don't know. I'm the guy who has been there, done that and still standing on my own feet moving forward."

While Billie Dunn was suspicious of her live-in boyfriend Shawn Adkins at one point, she's now not sure if he had anything to do with her disappearance.

"It's something I thought about a little bit," said Dunn. "I don't really believe that."

At this point, no one knows if Adkins had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. Billie and Klaas are hopeful they'll see Hailey again.

"To my knowledge, there isn't any evidence of foul play found," said Dunn. "I know that my daughter can still be alive."

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333586


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 21, 2011, 10:59:51 PM
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Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 21, 2011, 11:00:26 PM
Scrabble Time!

Good Night All

Janet
8:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: yuknomenot on January 21, 2011, 11:14:41 PM
Please correct me if I'm wrong (and of course delete my post), but I keep having some vague recall of some animosity between MK and TM during a couple years back.  My perception at the time was that TM was getting all the attention and MK was slightly jealous.  I believe it was during the height of the Caylee search.  Because it's been reported that TES was on standby for Hailey but was never utilized and MK has been so pro BD from the beginning, I wonder if any of that is coming into play.  (sure hope I chose my words wisely enough)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 11:26:06 PM
Please correct me if I'm wrong (and of course delete my post), but I keep having some vague recall of some animosity between MK and TM during a couple years back.  My perception at the time was that TM was getting all the attention and MK was slightly jealous.  I believe it was during the height of the Caylee search.  Because it's been reported that TES was on standby for Hailey but was never utilized and MK has been so pro BD from the beginning, I wonder if any of that is coming into play.  (sure hope I chose my words wisely enough)

You did, and it was, and it could be.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: yuknomenot on January 21, 2011, 11:39:01 PM
 ::MonkeyCool:: Thanks Fanny!  Was fairly certain it wasn't my imagination, but so much has happened since then...well, one never knows  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 21, 2011, 11:40:51 PM
::MonkeyCool:: Thanks Fanny!  Was fairly certain it wasn't my imagination, but so much has happened since then...well, one never knows  ::MonkeyHaHa::

There was also bad blood between Leonard Padilla and TM.  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 22, 2011, 12:05:17 AM
Missing teen's father putting faith in God that his daughter will be found  (with video)

COLORADO CITY, TX (KCBD) - Friday night hundreds of people came to the First Baptist Church in Colorado City for a prayer vigil for Hailey Dunn. "Everybody is going to get together and pray for Hailey at the same time and give it to the Lord," said her father Clint Dunn.

After nearly 4 weeks, Clint said he's putting his faith in God that his daughter will be found. "Definitely I've put my trust in God. I guess you call upon God in your most desperate moments."

Search parties under Klaas Kids and the Laura Recovery Center have gone well, but Mark Klaas said unity needs to be achieved. "Obviously the goal is to bring Hailey home but everybody is working in isolation from everybody else," Klaas said.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer said the number of people from outside agencies working on the case has lessened. He estimates about 10 people per day working on the case, down from 30 a week ago. "It's disappointing. I wish they'd call more people in to see what's going on, but I guess they're giving up," Dunn said.

Kampfer insists they're not giving up and that their investigation will continue even if numbers are lower. Dunn said conversations with Hailey's mother Billie are also less frequent. "We're in the same book, but not in the same page. We're not keeping a lot of contact, especially since the affidavits came out."

Those affidavits provided more information on Billie and her former live-in boyfriend, Shawn Adkins. Adkins has been named a person of interest in the case. Clint said he tries not to think about that, and instead wants to focus on the positives, like community support. "It's made me realize people that don't know you at all can care so deeply and be so passionate about a person they've never met."

Search efforts will resume Saturday at 9 a.m. Those interested should be at least 18 and bring picture identification to the Colorado City Civic Center.

http://www.newschannel10.com/Global/story.asp?S=13887971


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 22, 2011, 12:09:35 AM
Intimate Prayer Session Held For Hailey Dunn (with video)

COLORADO CITY, Texas -- About 150 people came to the First Baptist Church of Colorado City to pray for Hailey and one group close to her passed out special reminders of the lost little girl.

Buttons were made by fellow 8th graders at Hailey's school that have Hailey's picture and a simple message on them, 'Have you seen me? Call 9-1-1.'

We asked Hailey's classmate, Brittany Edmiston, what she hopes people prayed for tonight, "Nothing negative," She said, "Everything positive and just hoping she comes home safe."

Media was not allowed inside but we were able to ask what the mayor of Colorado City was going to ask during her time to reflect about Hailey.

"I thought about it real hard last night." Mayor Carl Sue Dakan said, "Basically what I'm going to say is that 13 years ago the Lord gave his child to Billie and Clint to raise. Today that child is lost and we need help in finding her. We need to bring her home and I'm gonna ask the good lord to be sure and sharpen everybody's eyes and to guide their steps."

Search volunteers meet daily at the Colorado City Civic center at 9 am

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26578730/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 22, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
Vigils, searches continue for missing Colorado City girl (with pictures)

COLORADO CITY — The outpouring of support for Hailey Dunn and her family continued Friday as approximately 115 people attended a vigil at First Baptist Church to pray for the safe return of 13-year-old Hailey, who has been missing for more than three weeks.

Dawn Davis, senior case manager for Laura Recovery Center, who along with the KlaasKids Foundation has been helping volunteers organize the search for the Colorado Middle School student all week, commended the community for its efforts.

"When I look out at the people here, my heart is so full," Davis said to a crowd that filled the church's gymnasium.

Added Brad Dennis of KlaasKids, "We came here to hopefully be a blessing to you. What we received in return is a blessing from you."

Earlier in the day, law enforcement officials said searches at landfills in Colorado City and Snyder on Thursday came as a result of hits on previous searches at both sites by cadaver dogs. New teams of cadaver dogs were used in the landfill searches, which are part of the ongoing hunt for evidence in the Dunn case.

"But the hits were not necessarily related to the Hailey Dunn case," said Pete Kampfer, Colorado City city manager and media liaison for the task force. "Then they send a second team of dogs out to corroborate certain areas where the dogs hit."

On Thursday night's broadcast of "Nancy Grace" on HLN, it was reported that the dogs hit on evidence directly related to the case.

"I did not say that," Kampfer said. "I don't know where they got that information."

In an effort to keep Hailey's face in the public eye, buttons with her photo, which were made by middle school students, were handed out to those at the vigil.

"You can wear a T-shirt, but you can't wear a T-shirt every day, so they thought, 'We can wear a button every day' just keep that face out there," said Andra Maxwell, a history teacher at the middle school.

Hailey's estranged parents, Clint Dunn and Billie Jean Dunn, were in attendance.

"It really lifts my spirits when we have these events and I see all the people that care," Billie Jean Dunn said.

"This warms my heart," Clint Dunn said. "It can't make me feel good about the situation, but I feel the love."


http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2011/jan/21/vigils-searches-continue-for-missing-colorado/?partner=RSS


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cw618 on January 22, 2011, 01:34:43 AM
street view,of 1804 CHESTNUT ST,looks to be a duplex
house on right of map,on corner 18th and chestnut,the house
across the street is boarded up,wonder if it still is
http://www.vpike.com/?place=1804+Chestnut%2C+Colorado+City%2C+TX

What makes you think 1804 is a duplex? Because of the car parked on the side? I looked at it on Google maps and noticed the boarded up house across the street the other night too.

im wrong, on 18th looking at house,it looked like 2 meters


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 22, 2011, 02:40:11 AM
Cappuccino says....
"In the recent 911 call released it became evident that Billie was taking pain pills way prior to what happened to Haleigh, hmmm for someone relatively young it needs to be asked why & if it was with a doctor's prescription for something specific.   Did she take Klonopin on her own on top of that?... "

I only quoted this portion of Cappy's post because it's long and I just wanted to focus on this area. Is there an article, where Billie claims to have script, or to have taken klonopin, because I haven't seen it anywhere. I believe the klonopin accusation came from Shawn...IIRC after Billie had placed several 911 calls for assistance, Shawn then called later in the day and told the dispatcher that Billie was suicidal. Sorry, but I think he was full of crap and trying to attack her emotional stability (if she had any then) and therefore her credibility. This isn't all that unusual in these type of incidences. It's called "offend and accuse." One party tries to take action to prevent being victimized any further and the offender/abuser/manipulator tries to turn the tables. I think it's a bogus claim by Shawn who was hoping that LE would disregard the 911 calls Billie made and was designed to minimize and downplay his role in the situation. JMHO

I asked if she on her own was taking Klonopin which indicates that there may be a chance he gave it to her willingly or forcibly.  But I will duly note that she also took medication other than for her "bad tooth" excuse & I think they both had it prevent purposefully or otherwise being able to take the original lie detector test.   That drug run Billie went with Shawn the day Hailey was last seen, she has yet to show a prescription or name the doctor who prescribed something for her.  It is my opinion Billie is a drug user & she is lying about it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 22, 2011, 02:57:58 AM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

I sincerely am sorry for your losses & there is no need to throw nanners at you or anyone for your thoughts or opinions.  I dont think that most are merely cutting up how Billie is reacting, its more her behavior leading up to this horrid event & blatant lies that are being questioned.  I just happen to disagree completely that A) Hailey's father had anything to do with what happened to her & do believe that LE did whatever they had to do to eliminate them as suspects already B) Billie's lies & contradictions have nothing to do with shock, disbelief and/or denial...the truth is pure & simple no matter the circumstance, a lie is based on deception & only more dishonesty stems from it which has been exhibited several times over already.  Your experience has nothing to do with what happened in this case nor can or should it be compared to, the truth is Billie allowed that monster in her home amongst her children knowing full well he was threatening, a bad influence to have around her children & just plain twisted...she is responsible for that & will have to face it sooner or later. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 22, 2011, 03:48:31 AM
Thanks Luvmyboys!

Yesterday I posted about Clint and Naomi, the sighting of Hailey and the 6-7 yr old boy on Dec 27th, and the earring David found in Clint's empty house, it didn't go over very well. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. I also don't think Billie is a complete airhead, I believe she is in shock, disbelief and denial...I've dealt with 2 missing loved ones, both ended up dead and there has never been any justice for either of them. I speak from experience and unless you've been there it's impossible for anyone to know how someone should react, respond and how they should act while facing the most difficult situation life can throw your way. I feel compassion and see strength in Billie Dunn...ducking from nanner throwers now... ::MonkeyEek::

Why not condoning Billie poor choices that put Hailey at risk ... I agree.

Janet

I raised 3 kids single handed and I'll be the first to admit I was from from perfect. Life is a process of personal evolution, our personality and perceptions are ever changing based on our own personal experiences. I'm sure in hindsight others here would be honest in admitting that they too have made some questionable decisions regarding significant others and with regards to their parenting skills, we all make mistakes...difference is, our child isn't missing and we haven't been put under a microscope of suspiscion and had our lives picked apart and judged by those who don't know us.
So very true, and you said it so much better than I could have. Just imagine being a mom or dad with a missing child, and everything you say, wear and do, someone is there examining every aspect of it. We all I'm sure have made questionable decisions, and I can't imagine if I were in that position how I would be ripping apart everything I did and the guilt of thinking that the child is gone because I did something wrong.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I hear what you are saying but letting a twisted soul that was threatening the life of others into her house repetitively knowing the risk to herself & her children is a heck of bit more than a lack of parenting skills or a mere "mistake."  No, its reckless, selfish & totally irresponsible behavior from a parent & I for one cannot & will not give her any stretch of a pass on that.  Her elicit drug use, another unacceptable practice as a parent in my view is secondary but not to be ignored either.   There is even a very slim chance Shawn didnt harm Hailey (my gut feeling is he is responsible) BUT the rest of his behavior is depraved & violent so NO parent should have ever let that around their children, this is what she is being criticized for the most, deservingly so.   Most parents, albeit none totally perfect wouldnt have to contemplate that level of disregard for the well-being of their children because they wouldnt have allowed that level of high risk to enter their home much less stay in it after what has been evidenced in this case as severe threats & continuous nasty fights.   As a single parent for at least half of my childrens' minor years, I can assure you no blatant threat came near my children much less move in to reek havoc & harm to any of us as well as there was no man worth one second of my childrens' lives being ignored, neglected or risked.   If she feels ripped apart, she should & I dont envy her every day from this point on.     There is no excuse in today's society with 24/7 news cycles, internet, educational opportunities, informative programming, etc why any parent could be this dense & reckless.  Some may find my view harsh & with a lack of empathy for Billie but my life's work had witnessed first hand way too many children suffering at the hand's of adults I have no need to feel sorry for, Billie included.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 22, 2011, 04:44:00 AM
Okay, I got a little pizzed that BD says that NG show stated facts that were not true about cadaver dogs hitting on things and I happen to remember the only place they could have gotten that was from the town newspaper/news and from Mr. Kampfer hisself!

Landfill search yields clues in missing teen case

LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) - A spokesman for the investigation into a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl says dogs searching 1 of 3 landfills turned up evidence in the case even as hope remains for her safe return.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday on what was found or why the landfill in Abilene was searched in the disappearance of Hailey Darlene Dunn.
Abilene is 70 miles east of Colorado City, where the girl went missing last month.

Kampfer says searchers also used cadaver dogs in the Colorado City and Snyder landfills.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn. The woman's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier.

No one has been arrested. Adkins has been named a person of interest in the case.

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=13863385


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 08:21:32 AM
I agree, I don't believe it's a duplex and to add, if the house across the street is the one that Clint and his girlfriend were living in it was no longer boarded up.

Don't forget, the images in Google Maps and other maps is not current.  If I google my house the image is from over 2 years ago.

I'm confused.  NG asked Billie to clear up where Clint lived - across the street or across the field.  Billie said across the "street".

Right?

Clint said, I believe it was on one of his couple of appearances on Nancy Grace,  that Hailey had to "walk across the field" to get to his house. I also think he said he could see the backside of Billie's house and watched it all the time. So I think he lived behind their house.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 08:38:27 AM
Okay, I got a little pizzed that BD says that NG show stated facts that were not true about cadaver dogs hitting on things and I happen to remember the only place they could have gotten that was from the town newspaper/news and from Mr. Kampfer hisself!

Landfill search yields clues in missing teen case

LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) - A spokesman for the investigation into a missing 13-year-old West Texas girl says dogs searching 1 of 3 landfills turned up evidence in the case even as hope remains for her safe return.

Colorado City Manager Pete Kampfer declined to elaborate Tuesday on what was found or why the landfill in Abilene was searched in the disappearance of Hailey Darlene Dunn.
Abilene is 70 miles east of Colorado City, where the girl went missing last month.

Kampfer says searchers also used cadaver dogs in the Colorado City and Snyder landfills.

Hailey was reported missing Dec. 28 by her mother, Billie Dunn. The woman's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, said he last saw Hailey a day earlier.

No one has been arrested. Adkins has been named a person of interest in the case.

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=13863385
NORTHERN ROSE posted this article last night.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=333966
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On Friday, Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs essentially said the report on Nancy Grace wasn't true.
BBM


We have been getting mixed messages all along from Kampfer. Mitchell County is the county Colorado City is in. So, I guess it is possible something was found in the Abilene landfill, Taylor County, or Snyder, Scurry County. I know that is as clear as mud. All I'm saying is Sheriff Toombs may be speaking for only what may or may not be found in Mitchell County. I don't think I have heard of any landfill searches in Howard County, where Big Spring is. That would seem to be an obvious place to look.


 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 22, 2011, 08:54:11 AM
What kind of games are they playing.  BD says NG made this up, Kempfer stated it, right or wrong and the NG show reported on what came from that towns news!  Who is BD kidding?  She is lying through her teeth.  I would love to hear from a friend, former friend or anyone to tell us what kind of person BD has always been.  Can't say that is would have no bearing on the case because if this woman is always in denial, known to lie even when truth presented to her then I have to believe she is covering heavily for her dear little boy toy.  Also, when referring to SA it's with more feeling and when referring to HD she says something like 'that girl' is not in her home.  Never my sweet, darling, missing daughter, whom I love with all my heart and can't think of life without her!  Where is 'that Mom'????


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 09:07:52 AM
What kind of games are they playing.  BD says NG made this up, Kempfer stated it, right or wrong and the NG show reported on what came from that towns news!  Who is BD kidding?  She is lying through her teeth.  I would love to hear from a friend, former friend or anyone to tell us what kind of person BD has always been.  Can't say that is would have no bearing on the case because if this woman is always in denial, known to lie even when truth presented to her then I have to believe she is covering heavily for her dear little boy toy.  Also, when referring to SA it's with more feeling and when referring to HD she says something like 'that girl' is not in her home.  Never my sweet, darling, missing daughter, whom I love with all my heart and can't think of life without her!  Where is 'that Mom'????


Several of us have been wondering the same thing. Billie always has an alternate statement when an official statement is made, or a question is asked about a certain event.  That's a fact. I don't make it up, I just comment on it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: melisb on January 22, 2011, 09:25:48 AM
Yes ma'am Fanny, I agree with you.  NG has her faults but to call her out as reporting false info that actually came from an official is so hinky to me.  Another thing I have to agree with several of the posters about is MK aligning himself with BD!  He's done so with many other families, ones believed innocent and proven innocent but this is way too far for him.  I almost feel weird when seeing him with her like it's some kind of crush.  Can't he see her obvious false and contradictory statments?  I'm hoping that he isn't there trying to play up to her in hopes of getting secret info or asked by LE in some way to be the go between.  After the Tim Miller/H. Cummings fiasco one would think that a person in charge of highly respected search/missing organizations would tread lightly when going into that murky situation again!  Support/media help/search efforts hedoubletoothpick yeah!  Secret agent, NO!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 09:41:48 AM
CAPPY, I see you up there. You made some excellent post during the early morning hours. I guess that ole back is keeping you up again. It is refreshing to see someone else that doesn't buy into the "we all make mistakes" point of view. Everyone is responsible for their own choices, especially when it affects their children so profoundly.

 I have watched Billie squirm and turn and change history and I'm not giving her a pass for being dense or slow. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, and  I think drugs are a big contributor. Especially since now I am hearing her say she has thought "a little bit" about Shawn may have done something, but she doesn't believe it. She also says she loves him, speaks to him every couple of days, and wants him not to live in her house till this has "cleared up." Cleared up??? Does she think this is just going to blow over. Even at the remote chance that Hailey did runaway, or someone snatched her, does she think Shawn is going to be "father/husband/lover of the year?" Can she not see all of her really, really bad choices has led to just exactly what has happened?

I see fear in Billie's eyes, and I am not sure it is all for Hailey. I do not think, nor did I ever say that Billie had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. But if he did do it, and I think he did, I think he involved Billie in the cover up enough so she would keep quiet. I think she loves Shawn, and I think she fears Shawn. She still has that connection to him, as she admitted to talking and texting with him still.

If she can ever admit it to herself, when she walked into the house that Monday night, I am sure she noticed things a little out of place. Maybe different sheets on Hailey's bed. A mop that wasn't wet when she left home. Maybe a throw rug missing, or a door closed or propped open when it never was before.  A washer and dryer full of clothes she knows she didn't wash. Women notice things like that. Maybe she found a scratch on Shawn in an odd place, or something different in the car. In the days while they were together when Hailey first went missing, they surely had conversations. Conversations that gave more clues, or he may have even asked her to do something. I have a deep down gut feeling Billie is not spilling it all, because whatever she says, she knows Hailey is not coming back. She wants to save Shawn. She is addicted to him as surely as she is to drugs. 

I hope I haven't offended anyone with my thoughts. I did my best not to say anymore about it , because I can see it is not a popular opinion. But every time I think about Hailey, I see what a raw deal she has gotten. All of this is just my opinion, undocumented with links or lists.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 22, 2011, 10:11:29 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334136

Law Enforcement Discusses Scaling Back Dunn Investigation

Reported by: Austin Kellerman
Saturday, January 22 2011

Colorado City, TX -   Nearly four week since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn vanished from the small town of Colorado City, law enforcement is now talking about scaling back its massive search and investigation efforts.

Since Hailey's reported disappearance on Monday, December 27, more than a dozen local, state, and federal agencies have been involved in solving the teen's disappearance. Over the next few days and weeks, the efforts will transition back to a primarily local investigation.

"There will be times people will have to be devoted to other things," said Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs. "Just like anything else, crime does not stop. So, we have to move people around to other areas. But, there's always going to be someone who is working on this case."

Both Kampfer and Toombs say their efforts will continue to intensify even after other agencies pack up and leave town.

Hailey was last seen by her mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, on Monday, December 27 at their home on Chestnut Street in Colorado City. Adkins is the only person to be named as a suspect in her disappearance.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has told KTAB News law enforcement needs to find strong physical evidence or a body to make an arrest in the case. Kampfer continues to say there are still several persons of interest.

On Thursday, a portion of the investigation focused on landfill searches in both Colorado City and Snyder. According to the Mitchell County Sheriff, no new discoveries were made. Sheriff Toombs also said he wasn't aware of any evidence being found in a previous landfill search in Abilene.

"As far as I know, there's not anything that was found over there that pertains to the investigation," said Toombs.

As law enforcement continues to work the criminal side of the case, officers continue to receive help from volunteer searchers. Two national search agencies, KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center, are currently in town providing training to volunteers. The training will ensure all areas are properly searched and accounted for.

Representatives with both groups plan to stay through the weekend or until everyone involved is properly trained, according to KTAB's Tiffany Tatro.

Even though it's now been 26 days since Hailey disappeared, you'll still find hope all around Colorado City. On Friday night, the community gathered with Hailey's parents at First Baptist Church for a prayer vigil.

"We all need to gather strength and look for that higher power, who can deliver for us," said Bobbie Banks, a resident of Colorado City, as she and her husband entered the service.

"I know that prayer can get us through this," added Banks.

Officials now say the information that leads to Hailey's safe return is $15,000.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 10:18:41 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334136

Law Enforcement Discusses Scaling Back Dunn Investigation

Reported by: Austin Kellerman
Saturday, January 22 2011

Colorado City, TX -   Nearly four week since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn vanished from the small town of Colorado City, law enforcement is now talking about scaling back its massive search and investigation efforts.

Since Hailey's reported disappearance on Monday, December 27, more than a dozen local, state, and federal agencies have been involved in solving the teen's disappearance. Over the next few days and weeks, the efforts will transition back to a primarily local investigation.

"There will be times people will have to be devoted to other things," said Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs. "Just like anything else, crime does not stop. So, we have to move people around to other areas. But, there's always going to be someone who is working on this case."

Both Kampfer and Toombs say their efforts will continue to intensify even after other agencies pack up and leave town.

Hailey was last seen by her mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, on Monday, December 27 at their home on Chestnut Street in Colorado City. Adkins is the only person to be named as a suspect in her disappearance.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has told KTAB News law enforcement needs to find strong physical evidence or a body to make an arrest in the case. Kampfer continues to say there are still several persons of interest.

On Thursday, a portion of the investigation focused on landfill searches in both Colorado City and Snyder. According to the Mitchell County Sheriff, no new discoveries were made. Sheriff Toombs also said he wasn't aware of any evidence being found in a previous landfill search in Abilene.

"As far as I know, there's not anything that was found over there that pertains to the investigation," said Toombs.

As law enforcement continues to work the criminal side of the case, officers continue to receive help from volunteer searchers. Two national search agencies, KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center, are currently in town providing training to volunteers. The training will ensure all areas are properly searched and accounted for.

Representatives with both groups plan to stay through the weekend or until everyone involved is properly trained, according to KTAB's Tiffany Tatro.

Even though it's now been 26 days since Hailey disappeared, you'll still find hope all around Colorado City. On Friday night, the community gathered with Hailey's parents at First Baptist Church for a prayer vigil.

"We all need to gather strength and look for that higher power, who can deliver for us," said Bobbie Banks, a resident of Colorado City, as she and her husband entered the service.

"I know that prayer can get us through this," added Banks.

Officials now say the information that leads to Hailey's safe return is $15,000.

Morning KLAAS. I guess the coast will soon be clear for Shawn to move back in with Billie again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 22, 2011, 10:44:01 AM
ITA agree with Fanny.
I have been thinking the same thing for quite a while.
Where are all of Shawn's belongings ?
Did he just leave after she told him to without all taking his stuff ?
So, there will probably be some contact in person when he gets stuff he didn't take.
I also believe that she wants the attention from NG to go away now so that she can get back together with Shawn.
..
I also think that she won't take another LDT because she does know stuff about Shawn that would make things look even worse and could perhaps give LE more of a clue which they seem to need to find Hailey.
.. As for the phone, how many calls / texts did Hailey usually make in a day when she was at home ? Typical number of calls vs the number of calls and texts on the 26 ( Sunday ) - 27th
( Monday ) vs number of calls in her pattern.
Like Billie can't get that info now, but LE can and probably did. It is available on line, but they sent the password to the phone, as per her friend on WS.
This entire situation is too similar to Ron / Misty and to Cindy / Casey.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
Intimate Prayer Session Held For Hailey Dunn
 ::MonkeyAngel::
Mayor Carl Sue Dakan said,

"Basically what I'm going to say is that 13 years ago the Lord gave his child to Billie and Clint to raise. Today that child is lost and we need help in finding her. We need to bring her home and I'm gonna ask the good lord to be sure and sharpen everybody's eyes and to guide their steps."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26578730/detail.html


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334136

Law Enforcement Discusses Scaling Back Dunn Investigation

Reported by: Austin Kellerman
Saturday, January 22 2011

Colorado City, TX -   Nearly four week since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn vanished from the small town of Colorado City, law enforcement is now talking about scaling back its massive search and investigation efforts.

Since Hailey's reported disappearance on Monday, December 27, more than a dozen local, state, and federal agencies have been involved in solving the teen's disappearance. Over the next few days and weeks, the efforts will transition back to a primarily local investigation.

"There will be times people will have to be devoted to other things," said Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs. "Just like anything else, crime does not stop. So, we have to move people around to other areas. But, there's always going to be someone who is working on this case."

Both Kampfer and Toombs say their efforts will continue to intensify even after other agencies pack up and leave town.

Hailey was last seen by her mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, on Monday, December 27 at their home on Chestnut Street in Colorado City. Adkins is the only person to be named as a suspect in her disappearance.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has told KTAB News law enforcement needs to find strong physical evidence or a body to make an arrest in the case. Kampfer continues to say there are still several persons of interest.

On Thursday, a portion of the investigation focused on landfill searches in both Colorado City and Snyder. According to the Mitchell County Sheriff, no new discoveries were made. Sheriff Toombs also said he wasn't aware of any evidence being found in a previous landfill search in Abilene.

"As far as I know, there's not anything that was found over there that pertains to the investigation," said Toombs.

As law enforcement continues to work the criminal side of the case, officers continue to receive help from volunteer searchers. Two national search agencies, KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center, are currently in town providing training to volunteers. The training will ensure all areas are properly searched and accounted for.

Representatives with both groups plan to stay through the weekend or until everyone involved is properly trained, according to KTAB's Tiffany Tatro.

Even though it's now been 26 days since Hailey disappeared, you'll still find hope all around Colorado City. On Friday night, the community gathered with Hailey's parents at First Baptist Church for a prayer vigil.

"We all need to gather strength and look for that higher power, who can deliver for us," said Bobbie Banks, a resident of Colorado City, as she and her husband entered the service.

"I know that prayer can get us through this," added Banks.

Officials now say the information that leads to Hailey's safe return is $15,000.

Morning KLAAS. I guess the coast will soon be clear for Shawn to move back in with Billie again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Fanny Mae ::HelloKitty::

I think it is a very good idea to allow Honeybuns to move back with her.  The sooner he ticks her off, the sooner we will find out
what she really knows.  He will be skating on thin ice.  If he does not move back with her, she will also be ticked. IMO

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned
Meaning: A woman rejected in love can be very angry and dangerous


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 22, 2011, 11:48:35 AM
Elizabeth Ennen 'Endangered': Police investigating another missing Texas teen


LUBBOCK, Texas -- Lubbock Police Lieutenant Roger Cox confirmed Friday that detectives are investigating another missing teen case, this time out of Lubbock, Texas.

Two teenage girls have recently gone missing under suspicious circumstances in Texas, Hailey Dunn from Colorado City, Texas, who disappeared Dec. 27, and Elizabeth Ennen of Lubbock, Texas, who disappeared just nine days later on Jan. 5. Colorado City and Lubbock are about two hours away from each other.

MORE....

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/elizabeth-ennen-another-missing-teen-texas-police-say-they-re-investigating

Edit:  We have a thread for her in Missing and Endangered Runaways:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9324.0


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on January 22, 2011, 11:50:12 AM
Slideshow: Prayer Vigil for Hailey Dunn

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334076


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on January 22, 2011, 11:55:47 AM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 12:09:14 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?376349-Hailey-Dunn-1-20-11/page28&s=949634dface0dfcf50c2e6871977f36a

A poster #1084 noted MK is in Cali helping out on another case.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 22, 2011, 12:19:39 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091

Found this through a yahoo people search...Apparently it's not going to post in table form, but SA's grandma is 67yrs old.

 Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives
1 Renee H Norwood


View Details
 67 Dunn, TX
Hermleigh, TX
Coahoma, TX
Colorado City, TX
      Corey C Norwood
Colton Reese Norwood
Charles E Norwood
Carla R Norwood
Susan R Collier
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on January 22, 2011, 12:49:57 PM
I think with some of these cases it is hard to read because you sit back and wonder where the common sense is. While we on this forum have the common sense not to invite a man in like Shawn to live with us, for Billie this was all okay. Ask myself all the time, does this person have no common sense, are there common sense completely different from mine, is it drugs making these decisions, or is the person just plain ignorant. With Billie imo, a mixture of all of that. Frustrating


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 12:54:02 PM
ITA agree with Fanny.
I have been thinking the same thing for quite a while.
Where are all of Shawn's belongings ?
Did he just leave after she told him to without all taking his stuff ?
So, there will probably be some contact in person when he gets stuff he didn't take.
I also believe that she wants the attention from NG to go away now so that she can get back together with Shawn.
..
I also think that she won't take another LDT because she does know stuff about Shawn that would make things look even worse and could perhaps give LE more of a clue which they seem to need to find Hailey.
.. As for the phone, how many calls / texts did Hailey usually make in a day when she was at home ? Typical number of calls vs the number of calls and texts on the 26 ( Sunday ) - 27th
( Monday ) vs number of calls in her pattern.
Like Billie can't get that info now, but LE can and probably did. It is available on line, but they sent the password to the phone, as per her friend on WS.
This entire situation is too similar to Ron / Misty and to Cindy / Casey.

At least you would think he would want his favorite Michael Meyers T-shirt.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 12:55:47 PM
Intimate Prayer Session Held For Hailey Dunn
 ::MonkeyAngel::
Mayor Carl Sue Dakan said,

"Basically what I'm going to say is that 13 years ago the Lord gave his child to Billie and Clint to raise. Today that child is lost and we need help in finding her. We need to bring her home and I'm gonna ask the good lord to be sure and sharpen everybody's eyes and to guide their steps."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26578730/detail.html

AMEN.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 01:27:58 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091

Found this through a yahoo people search...Apparently it's not going to post in table form, but SA's grandma is 67yrs old.

 Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives
1 Renee H Norwood


View Details
 67 Dunn, TX
Hermleigh, TX
Coahoma, TX
Colorado City, TX
      Corey C Norwood
Colton Reese Norwood
Charles E Norwood
Carla R Norwood
Susan R Collier
 


Thank-you.

Grandpa Rudolph Norwood was twelve years older than Grandma according to the Obit on findagrave.com. 

What is the explanation for Uncle Matt Taggart has a different last name than his brothers?

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 01:36:23 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091

Found this through a yahoo people search...Apparently it's not going to post in table form, but SA's grandma is 67yrs old.

 Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives
1 Renee H Norwood


View Details
 67 Dunn, TX
Hermleigh, TX
Coahoma, TX
Colorado City, TX
      Corey C Norwood
Colton Reese Norwood
Charles E Norwood
Carla R Norwood
Susan R Collier
 


Thank-you.

Grandpa Rudolph Norwood was twelve years older than Grandma according to the Obit on findagrave.com. 

What is the explanation for Uncle Matt Taggart has a different last name than his brothers?

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Maybe he adopted him, and he kept his name.  :smt102


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 22, 2011, 01:36:33 PM
CAPPY, I see you up there. You made some excellent post during the early morning hours. I guess that ole back is keeping you up again. It is refreshing to see someone else that doesn't buy into the "we all make mistakes" point of view. Everyone is responsible for their own choices, especially when it affects their children so profoundly.

 I have watched Billie squirm and turn and change history and I'm not giving her a pass for being dense or slow. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, and  I think drugs are a big contributor. Especially since now I am hearing her say she has thought "a little bit" about Shawn may have done something, but she doesn't believe it. She also says she loves him, speaks to him every couple of days, and wants him not to live in her house till this has "cleared up." Cleared up??? Does she think this is just going to blow over. Even at the remote chance that Hailey did runaway, or someone snatched her, does she think Shawn is going to be "father/husband/lover of the year?" Can she not see all of her really, really bad choices has led to just exactly what has happened?

I see fear in Billie's eyes, and I am not sure it is all for Hailey. I do not think, nor did I ever say that Billie had anything to do with Hailey's disappearance. But if he did do it, and I think he did, I think he involved Billie in the cover up enough so she would keep quiet. I think she loves Shawn, and I think she fears Shawn. She still has that connection to him, as she admitted to talking and texting with him still.

If she can ever admit it to herself, when she walked into the house that Monday night, I am sure she noticed things a little out of place. Maybe different sheets on Hailey's bed. A mop that wasn't wet when she left home. Maybe a throw rug missing, or a door closed or propped open when it never was before.  A washer and dryer full of clothes she knows she didn't wash. Women notice things like that. Maybe she found a scratch on Shawn in an odd place, or something different in the car. In the days while they were together when Hailey first went missing, they surely had conversations. Conversations that gave more clues, or he may have even asked her to do something. I have a deep down gut feeling Billie is not spilling it all, because whatever she says, she knows Hailey is not coming back. She wants to save Shawn. She is addicted to him as surely as she is to drugs. 

I hope I haven't offended anyone with my thoughts. I did my best not to say anymore about it , because I can see it is not a popular opinion. But every time I think about Hailey, I see what a raw deal she has gotten. All of this is just my opinion, undocumented with links or lists.

I actually feel the same as you.  I don't feel that Billie has had any active part in this, I don't *feel* that at all, and remember that's completely subjective just based on what I've read and seen.  Others are more than welcome to feel whichever other end of the spectrum they do and I'll respect that in trade for respect for what I feel.  That being said, I also and more strongly feel that she's not playing this straight.  That could be anything from just her lying to herself about it all, and that coming out as covering things up because she doesn't want to believe any of it.  (How many times has she said she doesn't want to believe, she can't believe, etc?)  Or the other end of possibilities that she really does strongly suspect or even in her heart know that SA did something and is indeed afraid of him.  I keep thinking about the supposed suicide calls.  I see SA as being someone highly convincing, particularly to someone he's groomed over 3 years.  She has been a kid again in this relationship, gone back in time to be a 25 year old again.  It's not the easiest thing for a woman to find a man when they have two half-grown kids, no matter if they're pretty.  Then there are what I think are codependency issues and then top that off with a serving of drugs.

She herself said that for the past few years the relationship had been horrible.  Yet she stayed with him.  Maybe I'm interjecting my own experience onto this, but I was in an abusive relationship for 4.5 years and the first 4 were horrible, and the last .5 was smooth - because by THAT time he had manipulated and beat all the fight out of me, so that he could relax and just enjoy his puppet.  (Or so he thought - the smoothness allowed me to get enough strength finally to get myself out of there!)  And I was terrified of the guy - terrified he'd stay, terrified he'd leave at some times.  She needs to make an absolutely clean break from him.  No texts,  no talking no nothing at all so that he can't reprogram her back to the old way of doing things.  Otherwise, she's just going to keep taking the 5 steps back instead of moving forward and helping her family and doing something decent for the search for her daughter!

As long as he's out, maybe she thinks he could do something to her, too.  Honestly, I played nice-nice with my ex for a lonnnng time because I was truly afraid of him and he never directly threatened me!  There were things I knew about him that were wrong, granted not THIS wrong, that I never told because again - I was afraid of him.  I knew what he was potentially capable of, particularly if he thought I had anything to do with him being cornered - nevermind if it was his OWN actions that caused his downfall.  If you're around a person like that, you know that they will always blame everyone else in the world for the consequences of their own decisions, and in the case of people who are a bit psycho, that means they will make you pay for their ruined life.

Is that the fear we're seeing?  Is that why she's "guarded"?   I use that word to indicate whatever it is we're seeing because I still don't know that she's  actively/consciously "covering up" facts.  But she darn sure is obviously guarding something.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 22, 2011, 01:40:07 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091

Found this through a yahoo people search...Apparently it's not going to post in table form, but SA's grandma is 67yrs old.

 Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives
1 Renee H Norwood


View Details
 67 Dunn, TX
Hermleigh, TX
Coahoma, TX
Colorado City, TX
      Corey C Norwood
Colton Reese Norwood
Charles E Norwood
Carla R Norwood
Susan R Collier
 


Thank-you.

Grandpa Rudolph Norwood was twelve years older than Grandma according to the Obit on findagrave.com. 

What is the explanation for Uncle Matt Taggart has a different last name than his brothers?

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Matt's facebook.  Looking through they look pretty normal, unlike Corey.

http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 22, 2011, 01:40:56 PM
I hope I snipped this right .... 

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Maybe he adopted him, and he kept his name.  :smt102

Also possible that he was from a previous marriage of grandma's, and that he retained the name while she changed it?  He would still be considered a son because he was raised as such from a young age possibly?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 01:52:06 PM
I hope I snipped this right .... 

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Maybe he adopted him, and he kept his name.  :smt102

Also possible that he was from a previous marriage of grandma's, and that he retained the name while she changed it?  He would still be considered a son because he was raised as such from a young age possibly?

Good point.  He may have been adopted or a stepson?  We do not know for sure, so it is an opinion, (just in case) they get,
Honeybuns, Lawyer, after us.  I need to when Grandpa married Grandma.  Uncle Matt could be from his first marriage since
he was twelve years older. 

SA's mom is also a Taggard, I believe, so perhaps both children where from another marriage.  I understand, this does not
find little Hailey, but I needed to make sense why Uncle Matt came to SA's defense. Matt may be SA's mom's blood brother,
and he may not be, too, in case Honeybuns Lawyers is reading this. My opinions.

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002

Marriage & Divorce
 
Name: Renee [Taggart]
Spouse's name: Robert M Taggart
County: Tarrant
 
There may be a hundred people with the name Renee Nail Nail just CMA. ::MonkeyHaHa::

 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 22, 2011, 01:57:41 PM
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028817-504083.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Snipped:  "LUBBOCK, Texas (CBS/KTAB/AP) Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of Hailey Dunn, the 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing in late December, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday."

Was this ever confirmed?  That's a pretty firm statement, not "found evidence possibly related...."  or "may have found evidence".


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 22, 2011, 02:02:13 PM
I hope I snipped this right .... 

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Maybe he adopted him, and he kept his name.  :smt102

Also possible that he was from a previous marriage of grandma's, and that he retained the name while she changed it?  He would still be considered a son because he was raised as such from a young age possibly?

Good point.  He may have been adopted or a stepson?  We do not know for sure, so it is an opinion, (just in case) they get,
Honeybuns, Lawyer, after us.  I need to when Grandpa married Grandma.  Uncle Matt could be from his first marriage since
he was twelve years older. 

SA's mom is also a Taggard, I believe, so perhaps both children where from another marriage.  I understand, this does not
find little Hailey, but I needed to make sense why Uncle Matt came to SA's defense. Matt may be SA's mom's blood brother,
and he may not be, too, in case Honeybuns Lawyers is reading this. My opinions.

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002

Marriage & Divorce
 
Name: Renee [Taggart]
Spouse's name: Robert M Taggart
County: Tarrant
 
There may be a hundred people with the name Renee Nail Nail just CMA. ::MonkeyHaHa::

By the way, every time you call him Honeybuns, I get the giggles.  :)   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 02:23:12 PM
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028817-504083.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Snipped:  "LUBBOCK, Texas (CBS/KTAB/AP) Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of Hailey Dunn, the 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing in late December, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday."

Was this ever confirmed?  That's a pretty firm statement, not "found evidence possibly related...."  or "may have found evidence".

I am going to generalize my experience in Texas, especially that part of western Texas. I have been in Texas a lot. Texans are usually very independent and private, although they are friendly after they get to know you. They don't cotton to strangers very much and keep a low profile. They do not volunteer very much information. I have quite a few friends in Texas and have gotten to know their ways. Saying that, I'll be dipped in shellac if I can figure out what all this official double-speak is all about. I don't know if there are so many officials involved that have never had this much face time with the media so they let things slip, or it is that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing and what they should say. I do know that each county has it's own deputies and sheriff, and they are quite possessive of their territory and their authority. But Lubbock is in Lubbock County another whole county away from Sculley County. I tell you frankly, at this point I don't know who is in charge of this investigation. And now they are "scaling back."

I hope I haven't offended any of our Texas Monkeys. As I said before, I love Texas. I miss Texas. I am just giving my experience in Texas and my impressions. I know there are areas in Texas that are quite cosmopolitan, sophisticated and modern as any city in the US. But this part of western Texas is not at all like that.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 02:30:43 PM
I hope I snipped this right .... 

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Maybe he adopted him, and he kept his name.  :smt102

Also possible that he was from a previous marriage of grandma's, and that he retained the name while she changed it?  He would still be considered a son because he was raised as such from a young age possibly?

Good point.  He may have been adopted or a stepson?  We do not know for sure, so it is an opinion, (just in case) they get,
Honeybuns, Lawyer, after us.  I need to when Grandpa married Grandma.  Uncle Matt could be from his first marriage since
he was twelve years older. 

SA's mom is also a Taggard, I believe, so perhaps both children where from another marriage.  I understand, this does not
find little Hailey, but I needed to make sense why Uncle Matt came to SA's defense. Matt may be SA's mom's blood brother,
and he may not be, too, in case Honeybuns Lawyers is reading this. My opinions.

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002

Marriage & Divorce
 
Name: Renee [Taggart]
Spouse's name: Robert M Taggart
County: Tarrant
 
There may be a hundred people with the name Renee Nail Nail just CMA. ::MonkeyHaHa::

By the way, every time you call him Honeybuns, I get the giggles.  :)   ::MonkeyDance::

I do too, :) I am so angry at a child missing, I need a drop of silliness, and let's face it, he has something. ::MonkeyDevil::

I am going to drop this subject after I finish this post, because finding Hailey is what this forum is about.  I just wanted to make
sense of MT running to the rescue.

MAtthew Taggart is 48 years old, www.Intelius.com.  This would mean he was born in 1963, if the search engine is correct and if my math is correct, this would mean Uncle Matt was born before Grandma married Rudolph Norwood.  The Findagrave.com Obit states Renee Nail married Rudy or Rudolph Norwood in 1968. Renee (Nail) Norwood should be her name.


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Birth:  Dec. 9, 1932
Death:  Aug. 26, 2001

Services for Rudolph Harold Norwood, 68, of Dunn will be at 10 a.m. Tuesday at Bell-Cypert-Seale Funeral Home Chapel in Snyder with the Rev. Norman Burgess with the Dunn Baptist Church officiating.

Burial will be in Dunn Cemetery under the direction of Bell-Cypert-Seale Funeral Home.

He died Sunday, Aug. 26, 2001, in Big Spring.

He was born Dec. 9, 1932, in Tallahassee, Fla. He married Renee Nail on Sept. 24, 1968, in Big Spring. He was an auto mechanic in the U.S. Air Force for 21 years. He was a member of Dunn Baptist Church.

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene; three daughters, Carla Norwood of Snyder, Christi Adkins of Colorado City and Debbie Cargill of Mountain Home, Ark.; two sisters, Rou Meil Greene and Jean Shields, both of Tallahassee; one brother, Morris of Tallahassee; 11 grandchildren; and four great-grandchildren.

 
The information above is from intelius.com and findagrave.com, and also opinions.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 22, 2011, 02:41:38 PM
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028817-504083.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Snipped:  "LUBBOCK, Texas (CBS/KTAB/AP) Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of Hailey Dunn, the 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing in late December, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday."

Was this ever confirmed?  That's a pretty firm statement, not "found evidence possibly related...."  or "may have found evidence".

I am going to generalize my experience in Texas, especially that part of western Texas. I have been in Texas a lot. Texans are usually very independent and private, although they are friendly after they get to know you. They don't cotton to strangers very much and keep a low profile. They do not volunteer very much information. I have quite a few friends in Texas and have gotten to know their ways. Saying that, I'll be dipped in shellac if I can figure out what all this official double-speak is all about. I don't know if there are so many officials involved that have never had this much face time with the media so they let things slip, or it is that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing and what they should say. I do know that each county has it's own deputies and sheriff, and they are quite possessive of their territory and their authority. But Lubbock is in Lubbock County another whole county away from Sculley County. I tell you frankly, at this point I don't know who is in charge of this investigation. And now they are "scaling back."

I hope I haven't offended any of our Texas Monkeys. As I said before, I love Texas. I miss Texas. I am just giving my experience in Texas and my impressions. I know there are areas in Texas that are quite cosmopolitan, sophisticated and modern as any city in the US. But this part of western Texas is not at all like that.

I'm from Texas, born and raised, and I'd agree with a lot of what you say.  Most of us (present company excluded) don't tend to show our cards.  When I first watched Billie talk, I could see in her any one of a number of my own friends who (if they were asked the same questions, different situation) would know just to "KISS"  - keep it simple, stupid.  Don't offer up more than what you're asked; it's almost like it's impolite.  You are asked a question, you answer it short and sweet.

That being said, I'm going to have to join you in the shellac because there's some good ol' boy politicking or something going on with the people handling this case.  I absolutely do NOT like that they have someone who isn't from law enforcement doing the speaking about the investigation.  Let's face it, down here in the little towns, a city manager is a politicker.  He's a good ol' boy, someone who will smile and shake your hand, and assure you that their little town is just fine and dandy and ain't nothin' goin' on down here that needs you worrying about it.  Again, I don't mean that half as harshly as it sounds; there is a need for someone like that to get stuff done down here in Texas.  BUT not when there's a kid's life at stake.  No, sir.  There's  no time for politicking, covering-bu++, and putting shines on when there's a kid missing.

They need to choose a spokesperson FROM LE that all parties can agree on and stick to him, let Mr. Politics set a spell.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: starwynn on January 22, 2011, 02:46:27 PM
I hope I snipped this right .... 

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Maybe he adopted him, and he kept his name.  :smt102

Also possible that he was from a previous marriage of grandma's, and that he retained the name while she changed it?  He would still be considered a son because he was raised as such from a young age possibly?

Good point.  He may have been adopted or a stepson?  We do not know for sure, so it is an opinion, (just in case) they get,
Honeybuns, Lawyer, after us.  I need to when Grandpa married Grandma.  Uncle Matt could be from his first marriage since
he was twelve years older. 

SA's mom is also a Taggard, I believe, so perhaps both children where from another marriage.  I understand, this does not
find little Hailey, but I needed to make sense why Uncle Matt came to SA's defense. Matt may be SA's mom's blood brother,
and he may not be, too, in case Honeybuns Lawyers is reading this. My opinions.

Texas Divorce Index, 1968-2002

Marriage & Divorce
 
Name: Renee [Taggart]
Spouse's name: Robert M Taggart
County: Tarrant
 
There may be a hundred people with the name Renee Nail Nail just CMA. ::MonkeyHaHa::

By the way, every time you call him Honeybuns, I get the giggles.  :)   ::MonkeyDance::

I do too, :) I am so angry at a child missing, I need a drop of silliness, and let's face it, he has something. ::MonkeyDevil::

I am going to drop this subject after I finish this post, because finding Hailey is what this forum is about.  I just wanted to make
sense of MT running to the rescue.

MAtthew Taggart is 48 years old, www.Intelius.com.  This would mean he was born in 1963, if the search engine is correct and if my math is correct, this would mean Uncle Matt was born before Grandma married Rudolph Norwood.  The Findagrave.com Obit states Renee Nail married Rudy or Rudolph Norwood in 1968. Renee (Nail) Norwood should be her name.


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Birth:  Dec. 9, 1932
Death:  Aug. 26, 2001

Services for Rudolph Harold Norwood, 68, of Dunn will be at 10 a.m. Tuesday at Bell-Cypert-Seale Funeral Home Chapel in Snyder with the Rev. Norman Burgess with the Dunn Baptist Church officiating.

Burial will be in Dunn Cemetery under the direction of Bell-Cypert-Seale Funeral Home.

He died Sunday, Aug. 26, 2001, in Big Spring.

He was born Dec. 9, 1932, in Tallahassee, Fla. He married Renee Nail on Sept. 24, 1968, in Big Spring. He was an auto mechanic in the U.S. Air Force for 21 years. He was a member of Dunn Baptist Church.

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene; three daughters, Carla Norwood of Snyder, Christi Adkins of Colorado City and Debbie Cargill of Mountain Home, Ark.; two sisters, Rou Meil Greene and Jean Shields, both of Tallahassee; one brother, Morris of Tallahassee; 11 grandchildren; and four great-grandchildren.

 
The information above is from intelius.com and findagrave.com, and also opinions.

I think he hypnotizes her with those big ol' buggy crazy-eyes he has.   ::rhino::  lol

MT's information makes sense.  He would have been around 5 when his mom remarried.  He might not even remember his officially dad, and certainly was "raised" by the elder Mr. Norwood as his own son, no matter the reason.  With all the other nasty stuff in this trial, it's kind of comforting to hear SOMEthing that went right really - someone took on a kid and raised them up.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 02:58:20 PM
Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20028817-504083.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Snipped:  "LUBBOCK, Texas (CBS/KTAB/AP) Dogs searching a landfill have turned up evidence in the case of Hailey Dunn, the 13-year-old West Texas girl reported missing in late December, a spokesman for the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday."

Was this ever confirmed?  That's a pretty firm statement, not "found evidence possibly related...."  or "may have found evidence".

I am going to generalize my experience in Texas, especially that part of western Texas. I have been in Texas a lot. Texans are usually very independent and private, although they are friendly after they get to know you. They don't cotton to strangers very much and keep a low profile. They do not volunteer very much information. I have quite a few friends in Texas and have gotten to know their ways. Saying that, I'll be dipped in shellac if I can figure out what all this official double-speak is all about. I don't know if there are so many officials involved that have never had this much face time with the media so they let things slip, or it is that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing and what they should say. I do know that each county has it's own deputies and sheriff, and they are quite possessive of their territory and their authority. But Lubbock is in Lubbock County another whole county away from Sculley County. I tell you frankly, at this point I don't know who is in charge of this investigation. And now they are "scaling back."

I hope I haven't offended any of our Texas Monkeys. As I said before, I love Texas. I miss Texas. I am just giving my experience in Texas and my impressions. I know there are areas in Texas that are quite cosmopolitan, sophisticated and modern as any city in the US. But this part of western Texas is not at all like that.

I'm from Texas, born and raised, and I'd agree with a lot of what you say.  Most of us (present company excluded) don't tend to show our cards.  When I first watched Billie talk, I could see in her any one of a number of my own friends who (if they were asked the same questions, different situation) would know just to "KISS"  - keep it simple, stupid.  Don't offer up more than what you're asked; it's almost like it's impolite.  You are asked a question, you answer it short and sweet.

That being said, I'm going to have to join you in the shellac because there's some good ol' boy politicking or something going on with the people handling this case.  I absolutely do NOT like that they have someone who isn't from law enforcement doing the speaking about the investigation.  Let's face it, down here in the little towns, a city manager is a politicker.  He's a good ol' boy, someone who will smile and shake your hand, and assure you that their little town is just fine and dandy and ain't nothin' goin' on down here that needs you worrying about it.  Again, I don't mean that half as harshly as it sounds; there is a need for someone like that to get stuff done down here in Texas.  BUT not when there's a kid's life at stake.  No, sir.  There's  no time for politicking, covering-bu++, and putting shines on when there's a kid missing.

They need to choose a spokesperson FROM LE that all parties can agree on and stick to him, let Mr. Politics set a spell.

I'll have to give you a "HE77 YEAH!"  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/monkeyLPdance-1.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Samarie on January 22, 2011, 03:02:50 PM
Based on all the post regarding the Norwood's family tree, one could surmise that Renee is not the biological grandmother of SA, not that it makes any difference...just saying


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Lenie on January 22, 2011, 03:10:23 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091

Found this through a yahoo people search...Apparently it's not going to post in table form, but SA's grandma is 67yrs old.

 Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives
1 Renee H Norwood


View Details
 67 Dunn, TX
Hermleigh, TX
Coahoma, TX
Colorado City, TX
      Corey C Norwood
Colton Reese Norwood
Charles E Norwood
Carla R Norwood
Susan R Collier
 


Thank-you.

Grandpa Rudolph Norwood was twelve years older than Grandma according to the Obit on findagrave.com. 

What is the explanation for Uncle Matt Taggart has a different last name than his brothers?

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Matt's facebook.  Looking through they look pretty normal, unlike Corey.

http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg


I noticed down a few messages that Matt says that Billie introduced Shawn into a lot of worldly ways.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 03:19:47 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091

Found this through a yahoo people search...Apparently it's not going to post in table form, but SA's grandma is 67yrs old.

 Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives
1 Renee H Norwood


View Details
 67 Dunn, TX
Hermleigh, TX
Coahoma, TX
Colorado City, TX
      Corey C Norwood
Colton Reese Norwood
Charles E Norwood
Carla R Norwood
Susan R Collier
 


Thank-you.

Grandpa Rudolph Norwood was twelve years older than Grandma according to the Obit on findagrave.com. 

What is the explanation for Uncle Matt Taggart has a different last name than his brothers?

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Matt's facebook.  Looking through they look pretty normal, unlike Corey.

http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg


I noticed down a few messages that Matt says that Billie introduced Shawn into a lot of worldly ways.

You don't suppose Uncle Matt has a Michael Meyer mask from MaskRus, do you? (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/wtfcat.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 03:43:55 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091

 ::MonkeyDance::
Found this through a yahoo people search...Apparently it's not going to post in table form, but SA's grandma is 67yrs old.

 Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives
1 Renee H Norwood


View Details
 67 Dunn, TX
Hermleigh, TX
Coahoma, TX
Colorado City, TX
      Corey C Norwood
Colton Reese Norwood
Charles E Norwood
Carla R Norwood
Susan R Collier
 


Thank-you.

Grandpa Rudolph Norwood was twelve years older than Grandma according to the Obit on findagrave.com. 

What is the explanation for Uncle Matt Taggart has a different last name than his brothers?

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Matt's facebook.  Looking through they look pretty normal, unlike Corey.

http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg


I noticed down a few messages that Matt says that Billie introduced Shawn into a lot of worldly ways.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 03:49:01 PM
Curious, is this is Daddy, Charles C. Adkins?


Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997


Birth, Baptism & Christening
 

View Image 
Name:  Christina Babette Taggart
Birth:  date - Ector
 
 Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2002


Marriage & Divorce
 
 
Name:  Christina B Taggart
Spouse:  Charles C Adkins
Birth:  year
Birth:  year
Marriage:  date - Scurry, Texas
 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 22, 2011, 03:49:53 PM
http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/MattCommentBillie.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 03:50:18 PM
Shawn can't stay holed up at his Grandma's or his Mama's forever. They are trying to protect Shawn. Billie said she had called there and they wouldn't put Shawn on the line.   

Grandma must be in her 80's.  :smt091

Found this through a yahoo people search...Apparently it's not going to post in table form, but SA's grandma is 67yrs old.

 Name Age Previous Cities DOB Phone Address Avg. Income Avg. Home Value Relatives
1 Renee H Norwood


View Details
 67 Dunn, TX
Hermleigh, TX
Coahoma, TX
Colorado City, TX
      Corey C Norwood
Colton Reese Norwood
Charles E Norwood
Carla R Norwood
Susan R Collier
 


Thank-you.

Grandpa Rudolph Norwood was twelve years older than Grandma according to the Obit on findagrave.com. 

What is the explanation for Uncle Matt Taggart has a different last name than his brothers?

Why would Grandpa's three son's have his name and his fourth son have a different name?

Survivors include his wife; four sons, Rudy Norwood Jr. of Odessa, Colton Norwood of Sand Springs, Charles Norwood of Magnolia and Matt Taggart of Abilene, snip...


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=norwood&GSfn=rudolph&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=42538518&df=all&


Matt's facebook.  Looking through they look pretty normal, unlike Corey.

http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg


I noticed down a few messages that Matt says that Billie introduced Shawn into a lot of worldly ways.

You don't suppose Uncle Matt has a Michael Meyer mask from MaskRus, do you? (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/wtfcat.jpg)


 ::MonkeyDance:: 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cadillac on January 22, 2011, 04:01:35 PM
So he wasn't worldly until he met her?  WTH worldly did she show him?  uh oh...


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 22, 2011, 04:01:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/MattCommentBillie.jpg)

Shawn joined MichaelMeyers.net in October 2005, long before meeting Billie.  I'd say that his preoccupation with horror movies and masks has nothing to do with Billie and that is one thing that bothers us about him.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/ShawnAdkinsMichaelMyersProfile.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 04:04:49 PM
http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/MattCommentBillie.jpg)

Oh Lord! If Billie was the one to introduce Shawn into a host of worldly ways, this is more serious than I thought. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/shocked-2.gif)

Sounds like Uncle Matt is pushing the blame back on Billie, 'cause Shawn wouldn't hurt a fly.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 04:08:04 PM
So he wasn't worldly until he met her?  WTH worldly did she show him?  uh oh...

Exactly what I was thinking.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 04:12:11 PM
So he wasn't worldly until he met her?  WTH worldly did she show him?  uh oh...

Worldly (to me) means introducing Shawn to Museums, Books, Theater and the Opera.   :smt110


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: cadillac on January 22, 2011, 04:25:26 PM
So he wasn't worldly until he met her?  WTH worldly did she show him?  uh oh...

Worldly (to me) means introducing Shawn to Museums, Books, Theater and the Opera.   :smt110
Maybe worldly to some is pole dancing?


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 04:28:25 PM
So he wasn't worldly until he met her?  WTH worldly did she show him?  uh oh...

Worldly (to me) means introducing Shawn to Museums, Books, Theater and the Opera.   :smt110
Maybe worldly to some is pole dancing?

Worldly to me means why he called her his dirty woman.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 04:40:30 PM
I found Shawn Casey Adkins Birth record information.

He was born in Taylor, Abilene, Texas. -ancestry.com records.

I am sorry I do not have a membership.


Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997


Birth, Baptism & Christening
 

View Image 

Name: Shawn Casey Adkins Birth County: Taylor  
There's more to see
A picture of the original document

Date of Birth, Gender Father's name Mother's name Roll Number


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=34&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=shawn&gsln=adkins&mswpn__ftp=tesas&msbdy=1986&uidh=000&so=2

 [/b]


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 04:49:27 PM
I found Shawn Casey Adkins Birth record information.

He was born in Taylor, Abilene, Texas. -ancestry.com records.

I am sorry I do not have a membership.


Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997


Birth, Baptism & Christening
 

View Image 

Name: Shawn Casey Adkins Birth County: Taylor  
There's more to see
A picture of the original document

Date of Birth, Gender Father's name Mother's name Roll Number


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=34&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=shawn&gsln=adkins&mswpn__ftp=tesas&msbdy=1986&uidh=000&so=2

 [/b]

I just realized his middle name is Casey.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 05:21:32 PM
I found Shawn Casey Adkins Birth record information.

He was born in Taylor, Abilene, Texas. -ancestry.com records.

I am sorry I do not have a membership.


Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997


Birth, Baptism & Christening
 

View Image 

Name: Shawn Casey Adkins Birth County: Taylor  
There's more to see
A picture of the original document

Date of Birth, Gender Father's name Mother's name Roll Number


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=34&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=shawn&gsln=adkins&mswpn__ftp=tesas&msbdy=1986&uidh=000&so=2

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I found a Charles Clay Adkins, ancestry.com (possible kin folk)  :smt096

Intelius.com or peoplefinders.com

Charles C AdkinsSnyder, TX

Rotan, TX
Abilene, TX
Big Spring, TX
 
 

Tyler C Adkins
Judy J Adkins
Joe Adkins
Christina B Adkins



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 22, 2011, 05:39:13 PM
http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/MattCommentBillie.jpg)


Could it be that this uncle and the cousin who appeared in the Youtube videos with Shawn are the two others referred to by Billie ... the two others who took and failed polygraphs?

Could it be that these two have knowledge regarding the morning of December 27th ... the morning Shawn made an unplanned trip to Big Spring?

Janet

+++++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


GRACE: What about that, Billie? I know that she was seen by neighbors around lunchtime, noon in the backyard by herself, talking on a cell phone, right?

DUNN: Right. And I`m guessing the police would have asked that same neighbor, was my car here yet? Was Shawn home yet? They`ve talked to his mom and an uncle who stopped by his mom`s house saying that he was there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html


NANCY GRACE
Aired January 6, 2011 - 20:00   ET


BILLIE DUNN: ... They came, picked him up. He took his. I went in. They told me he failed it. I lost it, of course. I told them I had so much faith in that test.

Then they took me over to the courthouse. I took a polygraph test. I failed it, lost all faith in the test. A couple of other people failed it. One guy I do not know. One person took it three times, took it twice and failed it...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/ng.01.html




Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 05:39:25 PM
I am sorry for taking up so much space.  ::MonkeyTongue::  A possible match.

Adkins, Charles Clay 45

Abilene, TX, Big Spring, TX, Dunn, TX, Lueders, TX, Perryton, TX, Rotan, TX, Snyder, TX.

Judy Adkins, Joe Adkins, Endgate C Taggart, Christina B Adkins, Taggart Christina B,
 
http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType=name&db=&fn=charles+&mn=C&ln=Adkins&city=big+spring&state=TX&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 22, 2011, 05:45:24 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334136

Law Enforcement Discusses Scaling Back Dunn Investigation

Reported by: Austin Kellerman
Saturday, January 22 2011

Colorado City, TX -   Nearly four week since 13-year-old Hailey Dunn vanished from the small town of Colorado City, law enforcement is now talking about scaling back its massive search and investigation efforts.

Since Hailey's reported disappearance on Monday, December 27, more than a dozen local, state, and federal agencies have been involved in solving the teen's disappearance. Over the next few days and weeks, the efforts will transition back to a primarily local investigation.

"There will be times people will have to be devoted to other things," said Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs. "Just like anything else, crime does not stop. So, we have to move people around to other areas. But, there's always going to be someone who is working on this case."

Both Kampfer and Toombs say their efforts will continue to intensify even after other agencies pack up and leave town.

Hailey was last seen by her mother's boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, on Monday, December 27 at their home on Chestnut Street in Colorado City. Adkins is the only person to be named as a suspect in her disappearance.

Colorado City's City Manager Pete Kampfer has told KTAB News law enforcement needs to find strong physical evidence or a body to make an arrest in the case. Kampfer continues to say there are still several persons of interest.

On Thursday, a portion of the investigation focused on landfill searches in both Colorado City and Snyder. According to the Mitchell County Sheriff, no new discoveries were made. Sheriff Toombs also said he wasn't aware of any evidence being found in a previous landfill search in Abilene.

"As far as I know, there's not anything that was found over there that pertains to the investigation," said Toombs.

As law enforcement continues to work the criminal side of the case, officers continue to receive help from volunteer searchers. Two national search agencies, KlaasKids and the Laura Recovery Center, are currently in town providing training to volunteers. The training will ensure all areas are properly searched and accounted for.

Representatives with both groups plan to stay through the weekend or until everyone involved is properly trained, according to KTAB's Tiffany Tatro.

Even though it's now been 26 days since Hailey disappeared, you'll still find hope all around Colorado City. On Friday night, the community gathered with Hailey's parents at First Baptist Church for a prayer vigil.

"We all need to gather strength and look for that higher power, who can deliver for us," said Bobbie Banks, a resident of Colorado City, as she and her husband entered the service.

"I know that prayer can get us through this," added Banks.

Officials now say the information that leads to Hailey's safe return is $15,000.

I believe that the location of where the text to Mary Beth originated at 2:00 PM on the afternoon of December 27th could be considered forensic evidence either implicating or exonerating Shawn in the disappearance of Hailey.

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Mystery Text in Missing Hailey Dunn Case
Aired January 18, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


GRACE: And back to you, Alexis Weed. The pings off the boyfriend`s cell phone -- and everybody, I`m just asking questions about this live-in boyfriend. He`s now moved out. Billie Dunn told him to leave. He has apparently cut off contact to her. I`m not saying he`s the only person that should be looked at, but I`ve got a lot of questions about his behavior.

Alexis Weed, I want to talk very quickly -- let me see the map, Liz, of the pings. Do the pings tell us where he was at 2:00 PM that day?

WEED: They tell us that between the hours of 9:38 in the morning and 2:40 in the afternoon, that Shawn Adkins was pinging around the Big Spring, Texas, area. That`s where his grandmother lives. But before that, Nancy, between the hours of 6:35 and 6:56 in the morning, that`s when he was pinging around Colorado City where Hailey`s -- Hailey`s home is located.

GRACE: So at 2:40 PM, I`ve still got him at his mother`s house, right?

WEED: Right.

GRACE: Now, question. Back to you, Jean Casarez. Let`s talk about this 2:00 PM text from Hailey`s phone. Where did it ping? Where did it ping?

CASAREZ: That`s very interesting. Where did it ping from? We don`t know.

GRACE: Because, listen, you see where I`m going, Jean.

CASAREZ: Yes, I do.

GRACE: If the boyfriend had Hailey`s phone and he was faking that text, this innocuous, generic text, What are you doing, to a little friend of hers, he could have gotten that friend`s name out of the phone directory, if she had it in the -- it was a disposable phone. How do I know he didn`t send that? And if he did, where was he? If he was at his mom`s until 2:40, did that cell ping, that text ping from where his mother lived? Because if it did, he`s in a lot of trouble, Jean.

CASAREZ: That`s right. And otherwise, if it didn`t, if it pinged from the home in Colorado City, then maybe little Hailey Dunn was alive at that point.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on January 22, 2011, 05:47:47 PM
I hope Monkeys are having a good Saturday.

Life outside the computer room beckon.  I will check back later.

Janet
2:45 PM PT


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: klaasend on January 22, 2011, 06:21:47 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334176

Aerial Video: Hailey Dunn's Home


Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Saturday, January 22 2011

During a flight over the Colorado City landfill Thursday, bigcountryhomepage.com's Maria Oliver also captured aerial video above Hailey Dunn's home.

In the video, you'll see the CNN satellite truck that parked outside the home a majority of the week for episodes of HLN's Nancy Grace show.

This is the area of town where Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the case, claims Hailey went walking around 3 p.m. on the day of her reported disappearance. Adkins says Hailey was going to stop by her father's home and then stay with a friend. According to those involved, Hailey didn't make it to either location.

Monday marks four weeks since Hailey's disappearance on December 27, 2010.

Click on the picture below to watch the video:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/th_AerialVideoHaileyDunnsHome-BigCountryHomePage.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/?action=view&current=AerialVideoHaileyDunnsHome-BigCountryHomePage.mp4)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 06:33:12 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334176

Aerial Video: Hailey Dunn's Home


Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Saturday, January 22 2011

During a flight over the Colorado City landfill Thursday, bigcountryhomepage.com's Maria Oliver also captured aerial video above Hailey Dunn's home.

In the video, you'll see the CNN satellite truck that parked outside the home a majority of the week for episodes of HLN's Nancy Grace show.

This is the area of town where Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the case, claims Hailey went walking around 3 p.m. on the day of her reported disappearance. Adkins says Hailey was going to stop by her father's home and then stay with a friend. According to those involved, Hailey didn't make it to either location.

Monday marks four weeks since Hailey's disappearance on December 27, 2010.

Click on the picture below to watch the video:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/th_AerialVideoHaileyDunnsHome-BigCountryHomePage.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/?action=view&current=AerialVideoHaileyDunnsHome-BigCountryHomePage.mp4)

That video shows more how the terrain is there. Very little grass and a lot of dirt. That's why I question the location of the picture of Colton's black pick up truck with all the manicured lawn.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 22, 2011, 06:43:10 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334176

Aerial Video: Hailey Dunn's Home


Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Saturday, January 22 2011

During a flight over the Colorado City landfill Thursday, bigcountryhomepage.com's Maria Oliver also captured aerial video above Hailey Dunn's home.

In the video, you'll see the CNN satellite truck that parked outside the home a majority of the week for episodes of HLN's Nancy Grace show.

This is the area of town where Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the case, claims Hailey went walking around 3 p.m. on the day of her reported disappearance. Adkins says Hailey was going to stop by her father's home and then stay with a friend. According to those involved, Hailey didn't make it to either location.

Monday marks four weeks since Hailey's disappearance on December 27, 2010.

Click on the picture below to watch the video:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/th_AerialVideoHaileyDunnsHome-BigCountryHomePage.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/?action=view&current=AerialVideoHaileyDunnsHome-BigCountryHomePage.mp4)

That video shows more how the terrain is there. Very little grass and a lot of dirt. That's why I question the location of the picture of Colton's black pick up truck with all the manicured lawn.
Fanny, not to argue, but when was the Colton picture taken? Do we know if it was summertime?

What I see in the aerial picture is dead/dormant grass, not dirt.  ::MonkeyBike:: JMO JSM


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: ScareyCarrie on January 22, 2011, 06:43:48 PM
So he wasn't worldly until he met her?  WTH worldly did she show him?  uh oh...

Worldly (to me) means introducing Shawn to Museums, Books, Theater and the Opera.   :smt110
Maybe worldly to some is pole dancing?

Worldly to me means why he called her his dirty woman.  ::MonkeyTongue::

could uncle matt be a jehovah's witness?? that is their term for non-jehovah's witnesses. so if you are not a jehovah's witness you are worldly, and worldly influences are bad and you shouldnt have contact with them, even if it is family, is their views....


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 22, 2011, 06:57:05 PM
So he wasn't worldly until he met her?  WTH worldly did she show him?  uh oh...

Worldly (to me) means introducing Shawn to Museums, Books, Theater and the Opera.   :smt110
Maybe worldly to some is pole dancing?

Worldly to me means why he called her his dirty woman.  ::MonkeyTongue::

could uncle matt be a jehovah's witness?? that is their term for non-jehovah's witnesses. so if you are not a jehovah's witness you are worldly, and worldly influences are bad and you shouldnt have contact with them, even if it is family, is their views....
IDK Scarey could be but, most people I know from that part of the state are mostly Church of Christ or Baptist. Mostly Church of Christ. ACU is a big CoC school.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 07:04:19 PM
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=334176

Aerial Video: Hailey Dunn's Home


Reported by: Bigcountryhomepage.com Staff Reports
Saturday, January 22 2011

During a flight over the Colorado City landfill Thursday, bigcountryhomepage.com's Maria Oliver also captured aerial video above Hailey Dunn's home.

In the video, you'll see the CNN satellite truck that parked outside the home a majority of the week for episodes of HLN's Nancy Grace show.

This is the area of town where Shawn Adkins, the only named suspect in the case, claims Hailey went walking around 3 p.m. on the day of her reported disappearance. Adkins says Hailey was going to stop by her father's home and then stay with a friend. According to those involved, Hailey didn't make it to either location.

Monday marks four weeks since Hailey's disappearance on December 27, 2010.

Click on the picture below to watch the video:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/th_AerialVideoHaileyDunnsHome-BigCountryHomePage.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/?action=view&current=AerialVideoHaileyDunnsHome-BigCountryHomePage.mp4)

That video shows more how the terrain is there. Very little grass and a lot of dirt. That's why I question the location of the picture of Colton's black pick up truck with all the manicured lawn.
Fanny, not to argue, but when was the Colton picture taken? Do we know if it was summertime?

What I see in the aerial picture is dead/dormant grass, not dirt.  ::MonkeyBike:: JMO JSM

The truck picture appeared to be in the summer. However, I have been in west Texas in the summer and I can't say I have ever seen a yard that looked like that. It still pretty much looked like it looks in the video, except there was green in the trees and some brushy grown and maybe some short shaggy grass. The grass in the truck picture looked like good old St Augustine that is prevalent in a more moist climate. There may be some yards like that I didn't see, but the trees in the picture looked more lush and it seems it would cost a small fortune to keep the grass that green and watered in that part of west Texas.

IM did find some realty pictures of houses in the Colorado City area that had some grass, but it didn't look like the kind in the picture and the trees were not so lush. JMO

I guess I should go find the picture so everyone will know what we are talking about.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 07:19:34 PM
I think the picture of the truck was off of Colton Norwood's FaceBook. I no longer have a FaceBook account so I can't get into his pictures. Maybe some one smarter than me can find it.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Cappuccino on January 22, 2011, 07:23:14 PM
http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/MattCommentBillie.jpg)

Oh Lord! If Billie was the one to introduce Shawn into a host of worldly ways, this is more serious than I thought. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/shocked-2.gif)

Sounds like Uncle Matt is pushing the blame back on Billie, 'cause Shawn wouldn't hurt a fly.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Uncle Matt needs to get a grip & realize that the rest of the world isnt made up of naive idiots!   In all fairness, I began to look at Shawn's life, habits & interests along with everyone else & tried to have an open mind to think maybe he just had an interest in the very dark & macab BUT no he's over-the-top & when you look at the threats he made & how ugly he gets with such an easy lack of control of his temper, it becomes clear that he is a danger to others.   No, Uncle Matt, lame attempt & the world isnt fooled by your stupid facebook campaign.

Fanny, thank you for the kind words a page or so back.  I call it like I see it & I know what I'm looking at regarding Billie.  A few made the point that she may even be in fear of him, rightfully so BUT even that she has a duty to her children first & long before Hailey's disappearance however that happened & who is responsible.  Ive stated from the beginning that I do not think she had a hand in what happened to Hailey but I hold her responsible for Shawn even existing in their lives beyond the first serious violent arguments & serious threats.   I agree I think there is a very good chance that Billie saw things in that home that deep down she knows are out of place & at the hands of Shawn.  I also strongly sense that Billie is lying about how dependent she is on illegal drugs with or without Shawn in her life, another thing I cannot excuse or condone.  She needs to buck up & stop the nonsense, prolonging facing her responsibility in this isnt going to help Hailey, her son or even herself.   Billie lied about her contact with Shawn even to date.   In one breath she stated that they wont let him talk to her when asked a very direct question by NG, it wasnt favorable to Billie being responsible or insisting to get an answer from Shawn about the facts of what he did that day.   The very next evening she admitted that she does have contact with him, to what end apparently isnt providing any helpful answers as to where Hailey has ended up & why.  The fact that she let him move in after he made threats to kill people inandof itself is totally absurd as well as flat out irresponsible.  If she feared him she should have realized that she was better off removing as much of a risk that she put herself & her children in as possible by telling him the relationship was over & no further contact was desired.  If he was bound & determined to harm them maybe he would have but she practically did nothing to prevent it but ended up inviting the devil in.   Shawn was not her childrens' father, she wasnt married to him for years on end before he went all psycho, nope he's just a young guy she enjoyed partying with & someone to lay in bed with, that is extremely selfish.  She called 911 and was more concerned about him taking things than him threatening their lives....she was skewed in thought from the start & I have no stomach for women that are this pitiful & weak.  It is one thing to have tired from constant abuse to the point that your confidence is shaken or feel that you have no hope to get out of it temporarily but there is a time especially for a mother to end the pity party & create a smart plan of action to take out the trash.   Trust me, Ive had my experience with abusive family members (a harder thing to deal with as a child)  & an ex thereafter BUT I did everything within my power to keep me & my children safe and get it removed from our lives without hesitation or previous emotions once had for the abuser.    I'd rather have an SOB try to come take my life than survive knowing my children were harmed in any capacity with or God forbid instead when I knew the SOB shouldnt have still be in our lives.  Children first, self second...kiss my adorable one & dont let the door kick ya.   Again, I will respect other's views but I will shout mine from the rooftops with every ounce of my own life experience & my life's work dealing hands on with these situations if it means yet one more woman will get the strength to do what I've done for myself & my children...I have no regrets.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/hash/a7/50/dunn%201294267278546_0.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 07:37:44 PM
http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13804937

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/01082011_Billboard_HaileyDunnmissing12272010-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 07:40:49 PM
http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/claymattagg#!/claymattagg?sk=wall)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/2011Jan/MattCommentBillie.jpg)

Oh Lord! If Billie was the one to introduce Shawn into a host of worldly ways, this is more serious than I thought. (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/shocked-2.gif)

Sounds like Uncle Matt is pushing the blame back on Billie, 'cause Shawn wouldn't hurt a fly.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Uncle Matt needs to get a grip & realize that the rest of the world isnt made up of naive idiots!   In all fairness, I began to look at Shawn's life, habits & interests along with everyone else & tried to have an open mind to think maybe he just had an interest in the very dark & macab BUT no he's over-the-top & when you look at the threats he made & how ugly he gets with such an easy lack of control of his temper, it becomes clear that he is a danger to others.   No, Uncle Matt, lame attempt & the world isnt fooled by your stupid facebook campaign.

Fanny, thank you for the kind words a page or so back.  I call it like I see it & I know what I'm looking at regarding Billie.  A few made the point that she may even be in fear of him, rightfully so BUT even that she has a duty to her children first & long before Hailey's disappearance however that happened & who is responsible.  Ive stated from the beginning that I do not think she had a hand in what happened to Hailey but I hold her responsible for Shawn even existing in their lives beyond the first serious violent arguments & serious threats.   I agree I think there is a very good chance that Billie saw things in that home that deep down she knows are out of place & at the hands of Shawn.  I also strongly sense that Billie is lying about how dependent she is on illegal drugs with or without Shawn in her life, another thing I cannot excuse or condone.  She needs to buck up & stop the nonsense, prolonging facing her responsibility in this isnt going to help Hailey, her son or even herself.   Billie lied about her contact with Shawn even to date.   In one breath she stated that they wont let him talk to her when asked a very direct question by NG, it wasnt favorable to Billie being responsible or insisting to get an answer from Shawn about the facts of what he did that day.   The very next evening she admitted that she does have contact with him, to what end apparently isnt providing any helpful answers as to where Hailey has ended up & why.  The fact that she let him move in after he made threats to kill people inandof itself is totally absurd as well as flat out irresponsible.  If she feared him she should have realized that she was better off removing as much of a risk that she put herself & her children in as possible by telling him the relationship was over & no further contact was desired.  If he was bound & determined to harm them maybe he would have but she practically did nothing to prevent it but ended up inviting the devil in.   Shawn was not her childrens' father, she wasnt married to him for years on end before he went all psycho, nope he's just a young guy she enjoyed partying with & someone to lay in bed with, that is extremely selfish.  She called 911 and was more concerned about him taking things than him threatening their lives....she was skewed in thought from the start & I have no stomach for women that are this pitiful & weak.  It is one thing to have tired from constant abuse to the point that your confidence is shaken or feel that you have no hope to get out of it temporarily but there is a time especially for a mother to end the pity party & create a smart plan of action to take out the trash.   Trust me, Ive had my experience with abusive family members (a harder thing to deal with as a child)  & an ex thereafter BUT I did everything within my power to keep me & my children safe and get it removed from our lives without hesitation or previous emotions once had for the abuser.    I'd rather have an SOB try to come take my life than survive knowing my children were harmed in any capacity with or God forbid instead when I knew the SOB shouldnt have still be in our lives.  Children first, self second...kiss my adorable one & dont let the door kick ya.   Again, I will respect other's views but I will shout mine from the rooftops with every ounce of my own life experience & my life's work dealing hands on with these situations if it means yet one more woman will get the strength to do what I've done for myself & my children...I have no regrets.

Sorry CAPPY. I wasn't ignoring you. I have been looking for the truck picture. I think you and I have been on the same wave length since the beginning. I am appalled at what I have seen in this case. I think Billie doesn't act like a mother who is wanting her child back because she knows she isn't coming back, and she isn't doing the grieving mother very well. I keep thinking of Susan Smith and her fake crying.  She isn't doing the normal things we have all seen a mother do because she has other things on her mind. I know, I know, everyone will say everyone grieves differently. But Billie's actions are way out of kilter. Downright weird and inappropriate. This is just how I feel, and I don't worry about nanners getting thrown at me.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 22, 2011, 07:44:57 PM
I think the picture of the truck was off of Colton Norwood's FaceBook. I no longer have a FaceBook account so I can't get into his pictures. Maybe some one smarter than me can find it.
I saw the picture Fanny, can't find it now but in West Texas  people have water wells that would be able to water the grass and not cost them out the rear in their water bill. Just a thought.  ::MonkeyCool::

Other than that, that is all I can think of for the grass being green.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 07:49:13 PM
I'm going to take a break from this. Everyone have a good nite.  (http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab6/fannymae66/toodles.gif)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on January 22, 2011, 07:50:09 PM
I think the picture of the truck was off of Colton Norwood's FaceBook. I no longer have a FaceBook account so I can't get into his pictures. Maybe some one smarter than me can find it.
I saw the picture Fanny, can't find it now but in West Texas  people have water wells that would be able to water the grass and not cost them out the rear in their water bill. Just a thought.  ::MonkeyCool::

Other than that, that is all I can think of for the grass being green.

I am sure I must be very wrong.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: joesamas mama on January 22, 2011, 07:58:28 PM
I think the picture of the truck was off of Colton Norwood's FaceBook. I no longer have a FaceBook account so I can't get into his pictures. Maybe some one smarter than me can find it.
I saw the picture Fanny, can't find it now but in West Texas  people have water wells that would be able to water the grass and not cost them out the rear in their water bill. Just a thought.  ::MonkeyCool::

Other than that, that is all I can think of for the grass being green.

I am sure I must be very wrong.
No, not at all. I am probably wrong and usually so. Sorry. Have a great evening. 

I pray Hailey is found, I'm not going to post anymore because I don't want to cause conflict.  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: joesamas mama on January 22, 2011, 08:01:14 PM
http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13804937

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/01082011_Billboard_HaileyDunnmissing12272010-1.jpg)
I said I wouldn't post again, but I did see this ad on a billboard today twice on my way to the rink. Really sad that I didn't see anything about Hailey on the Amber Alert signs.  ::MonkeyBike:: God Bless Hailey.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: klaasend on January 22, 2011, 08:03:02 PM
Colton Norwood has lived in a few different towns.  If you look at home for sale in Snyder or even Colorado City you do see some with grass.  I don't think it really makes that much difference whether Colton Norwoods home had grass or not.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:03:52 PM
http://www.newswest9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13804937

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/01082011_Billboard_HaileyDunnmissing12272010-1.jpg)
I said I wouldn't post again, but I did see this ad on a billboard today twice on my way to the rink. Really sad that I didn't see anything about Hailey on the Amber Alert signs.  ::MonkeyBike:: God Bless Hailey.  ::MonkeyAngel::


I hope Hailey's found soon!


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:05:18 PM
Klaas, do you want to do the thread change?  Or I can do it, either way.   ::piggy::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:09:40 PM
http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=23485
Hailey Dunn Search Update 1/22/11
January 22, 2011

Colorado City -

People from all over the nation are doing what they can to help, combing the ground for any signs of the teenager and now more of those volunteers will be searching by air.

Several helicopters and crop duster airplanes have been donated by aircrews near Colorado City.

Searchers say having an aerial view will be another strategy that could lead to her discovery.

Also...those interested in helping with the search now have to complete a training course.

According to news station KTAB, volunteers have to complete the 3-hour course based on the Laura Recovery Center Manual.


It’s been nearly one month since Hailey went missing from her home in Colorado City.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: seahorse on January 22, 2011, 08:16:34 PM
So he wasn't worldly until he met her?  WTH worldly did she show him?  uh oh...

Worldly (to me) means introducing Shawn to Museums, Books, Theater and the Opera.   :smt110
Maybe worldly to some is pole dancing?

Worldly to me means why he called her his dirty woman.  ::MonkeyTongue::

could uncle matt be a jehovah's witness?? that is their term for non-jehovah's witnesses. so if you are not a jehovah's witness you are worldly, and worldly influences are bad and you shouldnt have contact with them, even if it is family, is their views....
IDK Scarey could be but, most people I know from that part of the state are mostly Church of Christ or Baptist. Mostly Church of Christ. ACU is a big CoC school.

The Jehovah witnesses do not put up a Christmas tree or celebrate in a worldy fashion.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I noticed, BJD did not have a Christmas tree (visible) in the family photo.

 :mrgreen:  She mentioned, she and he were broke from buying gas and groceries, did not mention spending on Christmas.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/01/06/263118112341234_370x278.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/01/18/Hailey_Dunn_15_88x66.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:22:13 PM
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/01/18/Hailey_Dunn_04_540x405.jpg)


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: cadillac on January 22, 2011, 08:23:33 PM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/hash/a7/50/dunn%201294267278546_0.jpg)
What a beautiful young girl...such a sweet face.


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:24:23 PM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/hash/a7/50/dunn%201294267278546_0.jpg)
What a beautiful young girl...such a sweet face.

ITA, cadillac.  That's what I thought when I saw that picture too. 


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:24:59 PM
Ya'll hang on tight, we're going to swing on the vine on over to the next cage   ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:25:06 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/moderator%20pics/MODLOCK1.gif)

Please move to Hailey Dunn #4

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9336.0


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: klaasend on January 22, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
Klaas, do you want to do the thread change?  Or I can do it, either way.   ::piggy::

You can do it, I'm watching a movie so I'm back and forth...THANKS


Title: Re: Hailey Dunn #3 1/17/11 - 1/22/11
Post by: MuffyBee on January 22, 2011, 08:29:02 PM
Klaas, do you want to do the thread change?  Or I can do it, either way.   ::piggy::

You can do it, I'm watching a movie so I'm back and forth...THANKS

Okay.  It's a done deal  ::MonkeyWink::