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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: San on May 27, 2011, 06:11:42 AM
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FOR LIVE HEARINGS, THESE ARE THE USUAL LINKS:

No refresh clicking required:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream


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http://www.wftv.com/video/27049808/index.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.wesh.com/video/27050096/detail.html

iPhone App
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/casey-anthony-updates/id428240236?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

Android App
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsn.localnews147

SKYFIRE - MOBILE BROWSER FOR iPhone and Android
http://www.skyfire.com/


 ::MonkeyJustice::


Now that we are finally starting the trial, all Off Topic posts will be moved to the MURDER TRIAL BREAK ROOM without comment to the poster, it will just happen.  Please keep that in mind.  It is too hard for people to catch up if they have to wade thru Off Topic too.  TIA

BREAK ROOM THREAD

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9923.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 06:03:22 AM
Let's Roll!!  ::MonkeyHang::   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 06:12:59 AM
Rise and shine!!  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 06:37:05 AM
Tossed and turned for the whole 4 hrs I "slept". Todays testimony with George was so tense. What the heck will happen when Cindy gets up there? Maybe that will be an ambien night, eh? I wonder who is on the stand today. It seems like it will be Cindys turn to talk about the smell and the 911 call. Her testimony will tell us exactly if they are really cooperating or not. See y'all later..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 07:04:50 AM
Let's Roll!!  ::MonkeyHang::   ::justice2NJ::
::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 07:07:38 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/28/florida.casey.anthony.trial/
Casey Anthony trial resumes after testimony on smell of human decay
By the CNN Wire Staff
May 28, 2011 -- Updated 0934 GMT (1734 HKT)

Watch special coverage of the Casey Anthony trial Saturday starting at 1 p.m. ET and next week on HLN. Follow the details as they happen on our special Casey Anthony trial page. http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/category/casey-anthony/


http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/
Casey Anthony – ‘Nothing Is Certain But Death And Taxes’
05/27/2011 donchais



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: PookyBear on May 28, 2011, 07:09:58 AM
Let's Roll!!  ::MonkeyHang::   ::justice2NJ::
::justice2NJ::

Good Morning Trimm and Monkeys -- I think it will be interesting today -- I am hoping we hear from Lee today.   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 07:14:57 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/253267/Court-prepares-for-Saturday-session-in-Case-Against-Casey
Court prepares for Saturday session in Case Against Casey
By Amanda Evans , Reporter
Last Updated: Saturday, May 28, 2011 6:04 AM

It is day 5 of testimony today in the Case Against Casey.
   
Lawyers, the judge, and jury are all working a half day today and hearing more testimony in the case after more fireworks in court Friday.

Prosecutors wanted to introduce a sexually charged computer chat between Casey and her boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro.

The state says the messages showed Casey considered her daughter Caylee to be a burden, but the judge denied that request.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 07:17:27 AM
Let's Roll!!  ::MonkeyHang::   ::justice2NJ::
::justice2NJ::

Good Morning Trimm and Monkeys -- I think it will be interesting today -- I am hoping we hear from Lee today.   ::justice2NJ::
Hey Pooky!  ::MonkeyGavel::
I hope so too.Also,don't you know Tony L. is tired if being in Florida.I feel for the guy.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: alagary on May 28, 2011, 07:31:16 AM
Are they sure about Williams spelling of "nanaw"? I checked with my phone and the only real word that comes up is "nancy". Anyone that texts knows what I mean about sometimes taking it off instinctive and forgetting to put it back then typing a nonsense word. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 07:43:04 AM
Hey guys are they having it today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 28, 2011, 07:47:23 AM
Am I the only one that "dreams" about this trial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 07:48:35 AM
Hey guys are they having it today?
Yes, starts at 9:00 EST and goes to 1:00


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 07:49:28 AM
Hey guys are they having it today?
Yes, starts at 9:00 EST and goes to 1:00

didn't expect that! thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 07:51:02 AM
Snip
from yesterday..... important.    ::MonkeyShovel::

Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: klaasend on May 27, 2011, 09:51:06 PM
Page 3 of the autopsy report says the tape was clearly placed PRIOR to decomposition. 

http://blogs.discovery.com/files/caylee_anthony_autopsy01.pdf

Prior to decomposition ... not prior to death!!

Thanks Klaas

Ditto, thought that was said, but couldn't find what you did....tks
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 07:51:40 AM
Am I the only one that "dreams" about this trial?
I don't think so, I do.  I don't think I have ever dreamed of anything more than this case.  Of course, I have been here from the beginning, and I always pray about this case as I fall asleep, that must have something to do with it.   I never have any outcomes tho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 07:53:56 AM
It's early, on my 1st coffee....didn't see "not" in front of prior to death.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 07:54:04 AM
wow, i just watched the motion in limine that the state won!! Baez really just whines without making any arguments based on law.  It is really constant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flutter1 on May 28, 2011, 07:54:08 AM
Good morning all.  One more day of work and I am out for summer.  Maybe I can catch up with the portions of the trial have missed.  I hope someone puts together a Greatest Blooper video.

I didn't here the final decision on this question:  Is the jury working Monday?

 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 07:54:30 AM
Am I the only one that "dreams" about this trial?

Haha, some of us don't sleep long enough to dream!!

Yes, Beth, a lot of people are stressed about this trial and are affected in different ways, you'll be fine. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 07:55:58 AM
It's early, on my 1st coffee....didn't see "not" in front of prior to death.
 ::MonkeyEek::

Can you guys catch me up, I'm so sorry but I'm lost about this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 08:01:17 AM
I am watching the Mallory testimony and it is so sad to hear her talk about how much CAYLEE loved Casey.  I wish Baez would realize that just because people don't beat their kids in public and feed them doesn't mean abuse, neglect and murder does not happen (obviously).  I so hope Caylee wasn't conscious when Casey did whatever she did to her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 08:01:59 AM
Good morning all.  One more day of work and I am out for summer.  Maybe I can catch up with the portions of the trial have missed.  I hope someone puts together a Greatest Blooper video.

I didn't here the final decision on this question:  Is the jury working Monday?

 ::CowboySmiley::
No Court on Monday.  LDB felt it would be hard to notify witnesses as they probably had holiday plans.  She said she plans on calling a lot of LE next week.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 08:16:23 AM
It's early, on my 1st coffee....didn't see "not" in front of prior to death.
 ::MonkeyEek::

Can you guys catch me up, I'm so sorry but I'm lost about this.

They are discussing the autopsy report and clarifying the wording.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/06/caylee-anthonys-autopsy-report.html

The report states the duct tape was placed "prior to decomposition".

(Look in Part 1, page 3 for this information)

The report does not say "prior to death".



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 08:17:35 AM
It's early, on my 1st coffee....didn't see "not" in front of prior to death.
 ::MonkeyEek::

Can you guys catch me up, I'm so sorry but I'm lost about this.

This gives u the day....Bill Shaeffers interview link is their too.

http://www.wftv.com/news/28044952/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 08:19:09 AM
It's early, on my 1st coffee....didn't see "not" in front of prior to death.
 ::MonkeyEek::

Can you guys catch me up, I'm so sorry but I'm lost about this.

This gives u the day....Bill Shaeffers interview link is their too.

http://www.wftv.com/news/28044952/detail.html

Big part of the day was with the tow guy and George.  "the smell"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 08:22:04 AM
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
05/27/2011           Supplemental Defense Witness List


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 08:24:45 AM
I just wish George would be less combative on the stand.  He appears as the George we have always seen.   Although Baaz is infuriating, George is doing himself no favors with the jury, imo. 
Witnesses need to answer the questions, not engage in conversation about how the q. was asked etc.  and allow Baaz' ugly and ineptness as the focal point.

Thought it was interesting yesterday when George was shown picture of the vehicle - and asked if that was pretty much what he saw when he found the car.  Wonder when it will come out that Cindy tampered with items in the car, washed some of the clothing etc.

The question remains, why did they not call the police right away when they both recognized the smell of human decomposition?
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 08:25:50 AM
Good morning all.  One more day of work and I am out for summer.  Maybe I can catch up with the portions of the trial have missed.  I hope someone puts together a Greatest Blooper video.

I didn't here the final decision on this question:  Is the jury working Monday?

 ::CowboySmiley::
No Court on Monday.  LDB felt it would be hard to notify witnesses as they probably had holiday plans.  She said she plans on calling a lot of LE next week.

Plus, Mason said he is a Veteran and always celebrates the holiday.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 08:28:37 AM
I have been keeping a list of the State's witnesses so far:

State's Witnesses:

1. George Anthony
2. Cameron Campana
3. Nathan Lezniewicz
4. Clint House
5. Maria Kissh
6. Brian Burner
7. Jamie Realander
8. Erica Gonzalez
9. Anthony Lazzaro
George Anthony (recalled)
10. Ricardo Morales
11. Melissa England
12. Troy Brown
13. Iassen Donov
14. Dante Salati
15. Christopher Stutz
16. Matthew Crisp
17. Tony Lazzaro (recalled to proffer testimony)
18. Mallory Parker
19. William Waters
20. Catherine Sanchez
21. Simon Birch
George Anthony (recalled)
Anthony Lazzaro (recalled)

(If anyone sees an error, feel free to correct me.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:30:18 AM
goodmorning
you would think his lawyer would mentor him each day...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 08:32:08 AM
goodmorning
you would think his lawyer would mentor him each day...

morning loca.  I agree, but what a daunting, if not impossible task!  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 08:32:35 AM
IslandMonkey, I'm so sorry for your loss. May GOD continue to ease your pain.

I want to thank you for the information in your post, about no fluids leaking.   Very important, imo.   Now, had Caylee drowned, once lifted from the pool, I can see water coming out from her lungs, a reason to apply the tape.  But, had this been an accident, still no reason to cover it up......unless there were signs of abuse that could be detected.   Casey held out to make sure Caylee decomposed to the point she did, for very obvious reasons.


Also, just because Casey did not leave Orlando, does not mean she didn't flee.  She spent those 31 days doing just that, imo.  She took great lengths to flee from her family, the ones that constantly asked......"Where's Caylee?"   She would have been gone very shortly, had she not been found by Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 08:35:36 AM
goodmorning
you would think his lawyer would mentor him each day...
From what we have witnessed in court, Baez never heeds advice from anyone.  He's a know-it-all, and there is no embarrassing this guy.  Hit him in his pocket tho, that's a different story.  Like Casey, Baez is his own worst enemy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Mary Ann on May 28, 2011, 08:36:29 AM
I just wish George would be less combative on the stand.  He appears as the George we have always seen.   Although Baaz is infuriating, George is doing himself no favors with the jury, imo. 
Witnesses need to answer the questions, not engage in conversation about how the q. was asked etc.  and allow Baaz' ugly and ineptness as the focal point.

Thought it was interesting yesterday when George was shown picture of the vehicle - and asked if that was pretty much what he saw when he found the car.  Wonder when it will come out that Cindy tampered with items in the car, washed some of the clothing etc.

The question remains, why did they not call the police right away when they both recognized the smell of human decomposition?
 
Can, I agree. They should have called the police, but I guess that his brain just shut off. That had to be too much to fathom. I am sure that he "knew it" but just was unable to react as a cop. My feelings about George are changable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 08:37:40 AM
Does anyone remember when casey said this? Not the exact words, but something like this; they didn't find the (Caylee's) clothes yet.

Anyone remember?   ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: abbey09 on May 28, 2011, 08:39:06 AM
Hi Everyone:  I haven't posted in a few years since shortly after this began in 2008 and 2009, but I am back and catching up and watching every second of the trial.  Everyone here is so amazing with their thoughts and theories.....really great minds !!!

Usually murderers try to make it look like an accident.  This is the first time I have ever heard it was an accident and she tried to make it look like a murder.  Totally ridiculous defense IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 08:39:59 AM
Casey Anthony News13

In the courtroom lots of spectators here on a Saturday. Met one man in line who said he helped search for Caylee and that's why he's here.

https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 08:40:40 AM
I have been keeping a list of the State's witnesses so far:

State's Witnesses:

1. George Anthony
2. Cameron Campana
3. Nathan Lezniewicz
4. Clint House
5. Maria Kissh
6. Brian Burner
7. Jamie Realander
8. Erica Gonzalez
9. Anthony Lazzaro
George Anthony (recalled)
10. Ricardo Morales
11. Melissa England
12. Troy Brown
13. Iassen Donov
14. Dante Salati
15. Christopher Stutz
16. Matthew Crisp
17. Tony Lazzaro (recalled to proffer testimony)
18. Mallory Parker
19. William Waters
20. Catherine Sanchez
21. Simon Birch
George Anthony (recalled)
Anthony Lazzaro (recalled)

(If anyone sees an error, feel free to correct me.)

Tks.... ::MonkeyBike::
Hope Lee is first on the stand today...... ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 08:40:50 AM
I believe when Casey told her family and Lee in the jail house tapes that "she is close to home"  she was telling them, or trying to, where Caylee is. 

I don't believe for a minute that Geo would have been so stupid to place Caylee there. Not sure where Baaz opening statement ramblings went with
WHO disposed of Caylee's body. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 08:40:58 AM
Does anyone remember when casey said this? Not the exact words, but something like this; they didn't find the (Caylee's) clothes yet.

Anyone remember?   ::MonkeyShovel::

During the search at Blanchard Park, IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 08:41:06 AM
Wow. Just opened my chat on FB and guess who's logged in?
Nice way to prepare for court, Bozo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 08:42:19 AM
Do we have a page designated to discuss the autopsy?

If not, can we have one made?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:42:58 AM
Wow. Just opened my chat on FB and guess who's logged in?
Nice way to prepare for court, Bozo.
he is so incompetent!! on his cell or ipad...he prolly wants to know what nice things people are saying about him... his arrogant.. for what I dont know...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:43:53 AM
Does anyone remember when casey said this? Not the exact words, but something like this; they didn't find the (Caylee's) clothes yet.

Anyone remember?   ::MonkeyShovel::

During the search at Blanchard Park, IIRC.
that comment was made to tracy? leonords padillas niece?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:44:51 AM
I believe when Casey told her family and Lee in the jail house tapes that "she is close to home"  she was telling them, or trying to, where Caylee is. 

I don't believe for a minute that Geo would have been so stupid to place Caylee there. Not sure where Baaz opening statement ramblings went with
WHO disposed of Caylee's body. 
didnt you know???
roy kronk has the body!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:46:01 AM
how long will court be today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 08:47:35 AM
how long will court be today?

From 9 to 1.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 08:48:13 AM
Mary - I hear you re changeable feelings re Geo. 
Baaz attack on Geo. has garnered some sympathy for Geo., no doubt.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:48:38 AM
Hi Everyone:  I haven't posted in a few years since shortly after this began in 2008 and 2009, but I am back and catching up and watching every second of the trial.  Everyone here is so amazing with their thoughts and theories.....really great minds !!!

Usually murderers try to make it look like an accident.  This is the first time I have ever heard it was an accident and she tried to make it look like a murder.  Totally ridiculous defense IMO.

isnt that ironic! only baez could pull that one off...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:49:16 AM
how long will court be today?

From 9 to 1.

thanks curly!! ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 08:49:26 AM
I believe when Casey told her family and Lee in the jail house tapes that "she is close to home"  she was telling them, or trying to, where Caylee is. 

I don't believe for a minute that Geo would have been so stupid to place Caylee there. Not sure where Baaz opening statement ramblings went with
WHO disposed of Caylee's body. 
didnt you know???
roy kronk has the body!! ::MonkeyDance::

Lordy, that's right, I forgot!!! ::MonkeyTongue:: lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:50:28 AM
IC PEOPLE  in the courtroom


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 08:51:24 AM
how long will court be today?

She was with the Padilla team, I believe her name was Tracy. Casey said that to her in the Anthony home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:53:22 AM
KC told several people that her parents were going to be moving.  It seems George has realized that they may have been moving to a wooded lot around the corner on Suburban.

oh too funny!! she should have started with them! or maybe she thoguht she would start with the snot nose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 08:54:11 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image1-4.png)

I see people, Trimm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 08:54:17 AM
I just wish George would be less combative on the stand.  He appears as the George we have always seen.   Although Baaz is infuriating, George is doing himself no favors with the jury, imo. 
Witnesses need to answer the questions, not engage in conversation about how the q. was asked etc.  and allow Baaz' ugly and ineptness as the focal point.

Thought it was interesting yesterday when George was shown picture of the vehicle - and asked if that was pretty much what he saw when he found the car.  Wonder when it will come out that Cindy tampered with items in the car, washed some of the clothing etc.

The question remains, why did they not call the police right away when they both recognized the smell of human decomposition?
 

I really cannot blame him one bit.  I don't love George, but Bozo is accusing him of putting his penis in his daughter's mouth and dumping his grandbaby in a swamp.  I would be alot less civil than George.  I wish the judge would stop this and make Bozo use just his depos, no testimony on stand.  The jury has seen enough of this crap. 

Even if he tries to be nice, I would think he envisions these accusations all lover again.  I don't blame him. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:54:50 AM
linda b at the defense table.. casey looking through the notebook... guess she is back to lawyering...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:56:06 AM
linda b at the defense table.. casey looking through the notebook... guess she is back to lawyering...
kc nor mason look at linda!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 08:56:39 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image2-1.png)

Already busy doing her paralegal work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pinkbanana on May 28, 2011, 08:56:50 AM
Good Morning Monkeys

Another day closer to Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyGavel::


pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:57:17 AM
linda b at the defense table.. casey looking through the notebook... guess she is back to lawyering...
kc nor mason look at linda!
kc's grooming.. looks evil...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:57:36 AM
Good Morning Monkeys

Another day closer to Justice for Caylee  ::MonkeyGavel::


pb
goodmorning pink naner:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 08:58:04 AM
Wow. Just opened my chat on FB and guess who's logged in?
Nice way to prepare for court, Bozo.
he is so incompetent!! on his cell or ipad...he prolly wants to know what nice things people are saying about him... his arrogant.. for what I dont know...

Curly~

How is his name on FB?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 08:58:29 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image2-1.png)

Already busy doing her paralegal work.

So, when she gets off this murder 1 charge, she can maybe get a real job that she actually goes to every day.  Won't need a nanny now though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2011, 08:59:04 AM
http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Casey%20Anthony%20Murder%20Trial/052820111.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Casey%20Anthony%20Murder%20Trial/052820112.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Casey%20Anthony%20Murder%20Trial/052820114.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: AzGrama on May 28, 2011, 08:59:25 AM
Are they sure about Williams spelling of "nanaw"? I checked with my phone and the only real word that comes up is "nancy". Anyone that texts knows what I mean about sometimes taking it off instinctive and forgetting to put it back then typing a nonsense word. 

I'm behind in reading so I don't know if someone has already answered this.  Nanaw is used by some members of my family when they are referring to their Grandma. Could that be what she meant?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 09:00:47 AM
Tony Lazarro up first this morning to finish from yesterday


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: dani on May 28, 2011, 09:01:16 AM
The question remains, why did they not call the police right away when they both recognized the smell of human decomposition?
 
Can, I agree. They should have called the police, but I guess that his brain just shut off. That had to be too much to fathom. I am sure that he "knew it" but just was unable to react as a cop. My feelings about George are changable.

I know George was an ex-cop, but when it is someone you are close to - and in this case, how can you be much closer?... your brain really does shut off when something bad happens. You can almost feel it doing so. This is all my opinion. On May 1 (yes, this month) I found one of my closest friends passed away in the bed that we had shared all night - after waking up and letting her "sleep in" I went to go and wake her up - she was face down, I jumped onto the bed to be playful and as soon as I touched her to shake her and wake her up, I "knew." However, my brain shut off to protect myself from that level of stress & trauma, I calmly walked out of the room and into the next room to tell my EMT friend that I needed help waking her up. Even though I knew there would be no waking her up. It wasn't until we got the confirmation from the hospital that it even sank in a little bit, and now almost a month later I still haven't fully processed what happened and am sometimes still in denial - even though I was there for it all.

I'm just trying to say... traumatic experiences do strange things to the brain... in order to protect yourself... obviously the family already had a bizarre dynamic, I'm sure that lended itself to their ability to continue to be in denial and fit things into their skewed, distorted perspective... and almost refuse to see anything else. For that long...? Skeptical. I think they might be seeing the light now - and if they aren't, well... I'll bite my tongue!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:02:06 AM
When are they going to let poor Tony go home.  Where is he staying?  Hotel? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:02:33 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image3-2.png)

Anthony Lazzaro being brought to stand to continue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 09:02:54 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image1-4.png)

I see people, Trimm.

Hey Brandi! Good screen shot.  ::rhino::
I see Tony is up. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:03:25 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:03:32 AM
Wow. Just opened my chat on FB and guess who's logged in?
Nice way to prepare for court, Bozo.
he is so incompetent!! on his cell or ipad...he prolly wants to know what nice things people are saying about him... his arrogant.. for what I dont know...

Curly~

How is his name on FB?

As Jose Baez. He has an account.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
When are they going to let poor Tony go home.  Where is he staying?  Hotel? 

The State paid for his airfare and is paying for his hotel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:05:56 AM
I thought tony was gone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:06:18 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:06:35 AM
I have no problems with them not calling the cops right away.  George may have smelled it, but he had no idea his grandbaby was really missing and Cindy was dealing with Casey.  He probably let his mind beleive it was the garbage.  I do not see anything wrong with it.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:07:05 AM
When are they going to let poor Tony go home.  Where is he staying?  Hotel? 

The State paid for his airfare and is paying for his hotel.

I would think the state paid for the hotel.. well he can hook up with old friends.. but seems like alot of them have moved on.. no?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:07:07 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.

Really?  Eeks.  He must have talent that I am not seeing. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 09:08:14 AM
Yes, they went back to his place and did the Hokey Pokey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:08:33 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.

well mr george's employees seem more animated.. maybe someone just slip out and get him a red bull ya think? ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:09:02 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:09:17 AM
Side bar at 6 minutes after starting.  GMAFB.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:09:42 AM
Sidebar already. Oy vey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 09:10:05 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

Maybe they went back.  Just because that receipt is the 18th doesn't mean the 16th didn't happen as well right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:10:15 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th
They went on the 16th, laid around in bed all day the 17th, back to BB on the 18th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 09:10:19 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.

well mr george's employees seem more animated.. maybe someone just slip out and get him a red bull ya think? ::piggy::

Or pass out Red Bulls to the audience.

He's tiring to listen to- like Finnel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:10:31 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.

well mr george's employees seem more animated.. maybe someone just slip out and get him a red bull ya think? ::piggy::

My main issues with Mr. George is that he seems so unaffected by this case.  The other 2 want justice for Caylee.  Mr. George just seems to be doing his job. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:11:11 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

I heard that. The video is dated the 16th though.

Odd.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:11:53 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

Maybe they went back.  Just because that receipt is the 18th doesn't mean the 16th didn't happen as well right?

Sure, maybe the re rented the movies. He said Jumper and was cut off on the other


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:11:56 AM
Maybe Tony could not find the receipt from teh 16th, but they had the video, and have the reciept for the 18th, but maybe no video?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:12:09 AM
In case anyone missed it...... INSessions will air todays court activity starting at 1:00 EST - 4:00


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:12:27 AM
I have no problems with them not calling the cops right away.  George may have smelled it, but he had no idea his grandbaby was really missing and Cindy was dealing with Casey.  He probably let his mind beleive it was the garbage.  I do not see anything wrong with it.   

The only thing I have a problem with is Cindy going back to work.
You'd think she'd get on the horn and start tracking Casey immediately.
It was just dumb luck that she found Amy's phone # and that she'd just returned form PR.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:12:51 AM
at the sidebar baez is looking around
rolling his eyes... omg the jury sees it all


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: akmom on May 28, 2011, 09:13:11 AM
I don't know.  To me Mr George seems pretty wired today.  He cannot stand still up at the sidebar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:13:30 AM
In case anyone missed it...... INSessions will air todays court activity starting at 1:00 EST - 4:00

They are leaving at 1?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 09:13:32 AM
I have no problems with them not calling the cops right away.  George may have smelled it, but he had no idea his grandbaby was really missing and Cindy was dealing with Casey.  He probably let his mind beleive it was the garbage.  I do not see anything wrong with it.   


agree..  I think that he was so relieved that nothing was found in the trunk that he let himself be at ease....as most of us would do...at this point, George had no real reason to believe that Casey would hurt Caylee...jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:13:39 AM
Hmmm.....Cindy is sitting on the outside today, closer to the aisle. Maybe today she will take the stand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:13:47 AM
In case anyone missed it...... INSessions will air todays court activity starting at 1:00 EST - 4:00

I heard that, but wondered why?
They can't get up early on a Sat?
I hate waking up early, but we're all here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:14:23 AM
at the sidebar baez is looking around
rolling his eyes... omg the jury sees it all
he doesn appear to be attentive keeps playing with his eyes snarky rolling his eyes...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 09:14:53 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

Maybe that was when he bought it back??  Just saying.... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:15:03 AM
Hmmm.....Cindy is sitting on the outside today, closer to the aisle. Maybe today she will take the stand.

She was yesterday as well.
Lippmann doesn't look like he's sitting with them.
I wonder if Lee's there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pinkbanana on May 28, 2011, 09:15:07 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

West, that is what I heard too...the 18th but news 35 is saying he said the 16th.

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
In case anyone missed it...... INSessions will air todays court activity starting at 1:00 EST - 4:00

They are leaving at 1?
Yes, real court will finish at 1:00 and INSession will start broadcasting what they taped at 1:00.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 09:16:13 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

Maybe they went back.  Just because that receipt is the 18th doesn't mean the 16th didn't happen as well right?

Tony read the wrong date, correct is 6/16


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:16:20 AM
Ah, Tony was reading the due date, not the rental date which was 6/16/08.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:16:27 AM
Hmmm.....Cindy is sitting on the outside today, closer to the aisle. Maybe today she will take the stand.

She was yesterday as well.
Lippmann doesn't look like he's sitting with them.
I wonder if Lee's there?
Not sure, but what message is Lee sending his family that he only shows up when Mallory had to testify?  Not there for Cindy or George!?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pinkbanana on May 28, 2011, 09:16:48 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

West, that is what I heard too...the 18th but news 35 is saying he said the 16th.

pb

Now he said the 16th  ::MonkeyHaHa::

pb



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 09:16:56 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.

Curly, Frank George is the supervisor of "what", please?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:17:54 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

Maybe that was when he bought it back??  Just saying.... ::MonkeyBike::

Tony just said on the stand that it was an error, he misread the date.

The date was 6-16-2008, 7:58 PM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:18:01 AM
It sure doesn't look like Casey wants to look at Tony today.   HA HA   He deceived her!!!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2011, 09:18:21 AM
Casey's blouse looks like it was wadded up somewhere before she put it on, it's all wrinkled.  Bet she's not too happy about that considering who the first witness is!
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 09:18:34 AM
Yes, they went back to his place and did the Hokey Pokey!

Ewwe, he prob should cut something off and try to get a transplant.  Why, what did he see in her?

She is so ugly.

Tony Lazzaro reminds me of Tommy Pickles.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 09:19:01 AM
I wonder how close of a view of Casey the jury gets. I hope they were able to see her during Mallory's testimony yesterday, wiping away nonexistent tears. It was more feigned than any other time I've seen her do it. Her eyes were not even watery, because she didn't even bother poking them. She kept trying to give that fake wry little smile on cue when Mal was talking about Caylee and her, but it was so unnatural that it turned into a series of facial twitches instead. I hope the jury was close enough to see what the cameras caught. The only people on the planet that didn't catch the fakeness were the folks at HLN. "Surprise, surprise".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 09:19:30 AM
Wish Mr. George wasn;t doing the questioning.....
Why didn't he ask right off the bat, who picked the movies out...
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:19:50 AM
I wish Tony would refer to Casey as "the defendant".  That would really get her goat!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:20:11 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

Maybe that was when he bought it back??  Just saying.... ::MonkeyBike::

Tony just said on the stand that it was an error, he misread the date.

The date was 6-16-2008, 7:58 PM

They stopped talking about the blockbuster thing, so bozo must have gotten his objection sustained?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 09:20:26 AM
Not sure, but what message is Lee sending his family that he only shows up when Mallory had to testify?  Not there for Cindy or George!?

I wondered that, and it was even more confusing when I saw a serious hug-fest between the 4 of them!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.

Curly, Frank George is the supervisor of "what", please?

Of the ass't state attorneys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:21:27 AM
I wish Tony would refer to Casey as "the defendant".  That would really get her goat!

I wish Frank George could get his dates right when questioning Tony Lazzaro, and I wish Perry would pronounce Tony's last name correctly.

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
It sure doesn't look like Casey wants to look at Tony today.   HA HA   He deceived her!!!   

He deceived her About what?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Good morning Monks!

so glad I went back and read the last few pages of yesterdays discussion.  I had totally forgotten that Dr. G said the duct tape was placed on Caylee before she died.  How in the heck does the defense think their drowning story will hold up when this information is on record and will surely come back up later?  Anymonkey know?  TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CookieMonster on May 28, 2011, 09:24:13 AM
I don't understand why Tony isn't allowed to say what anyone else said?  Is that hearsay?  It makes testifying about Casey's portion of the conversations awkward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:24:59 AM
Can't Mr. George say has ICA ever confided in you about her life? I really want this secret to come out. I think the state is doing good. But they have probably had these questions for months and how they were going to lay this out to the jury. With this new info they really need to change their questioning. They are so methodical but are missing some key points and questions IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:25:34 AM
tony doesnt seem as hostile today ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:26:06 AM
I have the CNN link up and the camera is only on casey...  Anyone watching something different? I like when they show others and not focused on her ugly mug the whole time.

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:26:36 AM
I have the CNN link up and the camera is only on casey...  Anyone watching something different? I like when they show others and not focused on her ugly mug the whole time.

I watch WFTV.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on May 28, 2011, 09:26:58 AM
I have the CNN link up and the camera is only on casey...  Anyone watching something different? I like when they show others and not focused on her ugly mug the whole time.

(http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx)



Thank you Brandi !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:27:12 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

Maybe that was when he bought it back??  Just saying.... ::MonkeyBike::

Tony just said on the stand that it was an error, he misread the date.

The date was 6-16-2008, 7:58 PM

They stopped talking about the blockbuster thing, so bozo must have gotten his objection sustained?

Uh i really don't get that questioning lol how about who picked the movies, did you watch the movies, what were the movies about, what was ICA reaction to the movies any conversation regarding those movies?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 09:27:33 AM
Why in hell did the deputy not take the laptop? Especially if he was looking for clues.
I hope he got reamed for doing a shoddy job, since Lee wiped the hard drive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 09:28:15 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.

Curly, Frank George is the supervisor of "what", please?

Of the ass't state attorneys.

That's what I thought you meant.

It is Linda's case - I would assume she's the supervisor.

I see Mr. George go to her and ask questions....advise?

I just assume that Linda's the supervisor because it's her case - that's the reason Linda was the one to make the opening statement.

Someone please correct me if I'm looking at this wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:28:27 AM
kc is looking pissed.. too much truth coming out to expose her for what she is a lying H.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 09:29:23 AM
I don't understand why Tony isn't allowed to say what anyone else said?  Is that hearsay?  It makes testifying about Casey's portion of the conversations awkward.

I thought hearsy was when somebody hears what another person said to somebody else or somebody says so and so told me.  Not, what the person hears themself from the other person. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 09:29:49 AM
Why in hell did the deputy not take the laptop? Especially if he was looking for clues.
I hope he got reamed for doing a shoddy job, since Lee wiped the hard drive.

I think at that time, the deputy was looking for Caylee to see if there was evidence she was there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:30:03 AM
cool magpie from the hinky is in the courtroom. I love her updates..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: theboyzmom on May 28, 2011, 09:30:18 AM
I do not see LDB or JA today - or am I just not getting the right camera angle


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:31:26 AM
After KC tells tony she loves him his response was WHERE IS CAYLEE!

Probably pissed her off


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 09:31:49 AM
I do not see LDB or JA today - or am I just not getting the right camera angle

They are both present at the table.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:31:56 AM
I do not see LDB or JA today - or am I just not getting the right camera angle

They are there, I posted a picture of them a page or so ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 09:32:34 AM
Good morning Monks!

so glad I went back and read the last few pages of yesterdays discussion.  I had totally forgotten that Dr. G said the duct tape was placed on Caylee before she died.  How in the heck does the defense think their drowning story will hold up when this information is on record and will surely come back up later?  Anymonkey know?  TIA


klaasend
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 4 - 5/27/2011
« Reply #1722 on: May 28, 2011, 01:51:06 AM »


Page 3 of the autopsy report says the tape was clearly placed PRIOR to decomposition. 

http://blogs.discovery.com/files/caylee_anthony_autopsy01.pdf

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10012.msg1364449#msg1364449


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:33:10 AM
kc loooks like she wants to cry!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 09:33:20 AM
I don't understand why Tony isn't allowed to say what anyone else said?  Is that hearsay?  It makes testifying about Casey's portion of the conversations awkward.

I thought hearsy was when somebody hears what another person said to somebody else or somebody says so and so told me.  Not, what the person hears themself from the other person. 
I thought that too Zoo.  I noticed them doing that yesterday ... and I still don't understand it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 09:33:59 AM
Have we seen these particular text messages before?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:34:40 AM
Have we seen these particular text messages before?

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 09:34:48 AM
Have we seen these particular text messages before?

i have never heard these before


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:34:53 AM
kc is looking pissed.. too much truth coming out to expose her for what she is a lying H.

Good morning everyone

Very much so


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sea Searcher on May 28, 2011, 09:35:02 AM
Why in hell did the deputy not take the laptop? Especially if he was looking for clues.
I hope he got reamed for doing a shoddy job, since Lee wiped the hard drive.

I think at that time, the deputy was looking for Caylee to see if there was evidence she was there.

I agree..they didn't know the extent of what had happened or even may have happened at this point ... I can't remember if they returned and searched his apt. again for info once they knew


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:35:18 AM
All she cared about is if Tony was still going to be with her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:35:51 AM
Mr. George up again???  Ugh.  I feel bad, I just think he is new.

I'm fairly certain that Frank George is the supervisor, believe it or not.

Curly, Frank George is the supervisor of "what", please?

Of the ass't state attorneys.

That's what I thought you meant.

It is Linda's case - I would assume she's the supervisor.

I see Mr. George go to her and ask questions....advise?

I just assume that Linda's the supervisor because it's her case - that's the reason Linda was the one to make the opening statement.

Someone please correct me if I'm looking at this wrong.

She's the lead attorney on this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 09:35:51 AM
Casey, Lies, Lies, Lies


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pinkbanana on May 28, 2011, 09:36:32 AM
Have we seen these particular text messages before?

I don't think so...I don't remember these.

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:36:41 AM
Rule 403. Exclusion of Relevant Evidence on Grounds of Prejudice, Confusion, or Waste of Time

Although relevant, evidence may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, confusion of the issues, or misleading the jury, or by considerations of undue delay, waste of time, or needless presentation of cumulative evidence.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rules.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 09:36:53 AM
Casey, Lies, Lies, Lies

Isn't it wonderful that we're getting to see all this in court!?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KCJackie on May 28, 2011, 09:37:00 AM
"I'm the dumbest person and the worst mom" - KC

She finally got something right!!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 09:37:20 AM
Why in hell did the deputy not take the laptop? Especially if he was looking for clues.
I hope he got reamed for doing a shoddy job, since Lee wiped the hard drive.

I think at that time, the deputy was looking for Caylee to see if there was evidence she was there.

Ah, right. Same reason they didn't take the car the first day. I forgot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:37:22 AM
Casey, Lies, Lies, Lies

"Everyone lies..." -Casey Anthony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:37:27 AM
"Im the worse mother in the world, I hope you can forgive me, I know my family never will"  Casey text to Tony - you're snagged



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:37:56 AM
403 the argument is that Baez keeps bringing up!

Rule 403. Exclusion of Relevant Evidence on Grounds of Prejudice, Confusion, or Waste of Time

Although relevant, evidence may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, confusion of the issues, or misleading the jury, or by considerations of undue delay, waste of time, or needless presentation of cumulative evidence.



http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rules.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:38:32 AM
I wonder if Tony wanted to stay by her side. At what point to he change his mind?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KCJackie on May 28, 2011, 09:39:15 AM
 ::MonkeyCheer4:: Tony!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 09:39:22 AM
"I'm the dumbest person and the worst mom" - KC

She finally got something right!!  ::MonkeyMad::

But typically still trying to manipulate the other person into saying "oh no, you're too hard on yourself. You're not dumb. You're a great mom" etc. etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:39:33 AM
Tony tells it like it is, he had her number & no BS then was swaying him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:39:50 AM
"I'm the dumbest person and the worst mom" - KC

She finally got something right!!  ::MonkeyMad::

But typically still trying to manipulate the other person into saying "oh no, you're too hard on yourself. You're not dumb. You're a great mom" etc. etc.
exactly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 09:40:03 AM
All she cared about is if Tony was still going to be with her

and "if she would spend an eternity in jail" if Caylee wasn't found - that sums up Casey - me, me, me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:40:34 AM
All she cared about is if Tony was still going to be with her

and "if she would spend an eternity in jail" if Caylee wasn't found - that sums up Casey - me, me, me.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 09:40:59 AM
Tony tells it like it is, he had her number & no BS then was swaying him

Agree.  Loving his direct questions to her.  He was mad then.  Guess he was even angrier after finding out there was NO zanny the nanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:42:17 AM
Tony tells it like it is, he had her number & no BS then was swaying him

Agree.  Loving his direct questions to her.  He was mad then.  Guess he was even angrier after finding out there was NO zanny the nanny.
WOW HIS TESTIMONY IS DAMAGING TO HER....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 09:42:35 AM
::MonkeyCheer4:: Tony!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::
Telling it like it is.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:42:56 AM
God I am just sitting here looking at her.. Why! Like why would you feel like you had to do this? If it was to be free and able to be with Tony he sounds like he didn't care that you had a daughter he was willing to love you and Caylee.. WHY!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:43:04 AM
Here comes Bozo

This should be rich,  Dont take his crap Tony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2011, 09:43:17 AM
I thought they went to Blockbuster on the 16th of June. Tony said the receipt said the 18th

West, that is what I heard too...the 18th but news 35 is saying he said the 16th.

pb

Now he said the 16th  ::MonkeyHaHa::

pb



He said he mistakenly read the date the videos were due back


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:43:21 AM
The spin dr., Bozo is up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:43:51 AM
the jury is going to not like or believe this....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 09:43:57 AM
I have had probs from day 1 finding a site that I can hear. The volume is UP on/in all places and the commercials/other crap are loud.
it is only courtroom that audio is bad ggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 09:44:02 AM
Tony tells it like it is, he had her number & no BS then was swaying him

Agree.  Loving his direct questions to her.  He was mad then.  Guess he was even angrier after finding out there was NO zanny the nanny.
WOW HIS TESTIMONY IS DAMAGING TO HER....

BIG TIME!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Speculating to spin....idiot gets schooled again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 09:44:54 AM
I have been keeping a list of the State's witnesses so far:

State's Witnesses:

1. George Anthony
2. Cameron Campana
3. Nathan Lezniewicz
4. Clint House
5. Maria Kissh
6. Brian Burner
7. Jamie Realander
8. Erica Gonzalez
9. Anthony Lazzaro
George Anthony (recalled)
10. Ricardo Morales
11. Melissa England
12. Troy Brown
13. Iassen Donov
14. Dante Salati
15. Christopher Stutz
16. Matthew Crisp
17. Tony Lazzaro (recalled to proffer testimony)
18. Mallory Parker
19. William Waters
20. Catherine Sanchez
21. Simon Birch
George Anthony (recalled)
Anthony Lazzaro (recalled)

(If anyone sees an error, feel free to correct me.)


Good Morning Monks.  brandi, I have been keeping a list as well and it matches yours to a T


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:45:19 AM
Cindy on the stand  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Here comes Cindy..hold your breath.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 09:45:46 AM
Cindy Anthony up next


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 09:45:52 AM
Whoop!  Cindy is called!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:46:02 AM
wow here it goes truth or lie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 09:46:06 AM
OMG!  Cindy!  My stomach just fell!  Dum Da Dum Dum .... Here we go!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:46:10 AM
Cindy Anthony

Get with the program finally FOR CAYLEE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 09:46:12 AM
It's on now............. ::boxingcasey::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Red on May 28, 2011, 09:46:12 AM
Cindy on the stand  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Oh boy ...  this should be interesting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 09:46:30 AM
Oh chit.. here we go!  Cindy's up!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on May 28, 2011, 09:46:30 AM
 ::MonkeyEek:: Cindy up. Hope to hell she does a goob job


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:46:39 AM
God she looks a wreck!

Please god give her the strength and do the right thing for Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 09:46:45 AM
Cindy!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:46:53 AM
wow here it goes truth or lie
she looks nervous and pissed huh?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:46:56 AM
She seems terrified.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flutter1 on May 28, 2011, 09:46:59 AM
Cindy is very low key today. ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:47:20 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image9-2.png)

Cindy Anthony on stand now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 09:47:27 AM
Cindy very nervous


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: dani on May 28, 2011, 09:47:27 AM
It's on now............. ::boxingcasey::

Never seen the ::boxingcasey:: before LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:47:41 AM
wow here it goes truth or lie
she looks nervous and pissed huh?

I don't think pissed she looks crushed, defeated, heartbroken


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: 3babiesmommy on May 28, 2011, 09:47:48 AM
Cindy is so nervous!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:48:55 AM
she does not seem hostile...great it's linda  questioning.. this should be very effective!!

casey looks like she wants to cry / breakdown...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 09:49:15 AM
Cindy does not sound combative at all. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:49:19 AM

Good Morning Monks.  brandi, I have been keeping a list as well and it matches yours to a T

Thanks, Sunny.

Cindy sound less acrimonious towards the State today, and her voice sounds shaky.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:51:10 AM
maybe Linda will bring out that the spot where Caylee was found was Casey hiding spot, animal burial


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 09:51:11 AM
Holy Moly....I ALMOST didn't tune in this morning...but remember Tony was being recalled....and now Cindy....let's see which of her truths she tells


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 09:51:19 AM
Good Morning! Lets go cindy..tell the truth!  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 09:51:48 AM
When Cindy got on the stand she looked in the direction of the DT table and did a long blink? Anyone else see that? Wonder what it meant?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:51:52 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image10-2.png)

Casey watching her mother testify


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CookieMonster on May 28, 2011, 09:52:04 AM
Love the way she smiled when she said Caylee's name.  You could hear love.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 09:52:46 AM
Cindy very nervous

She looks bad.  She looks like she's going to crack mentally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:53:09 AM
oh baez is going to attack her!! because of them saying they didnt know she was preganant but had a pudgy tummy...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 09:53:47 AM
yes or no .. they all have such a bad habit of going on and on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
Holy Moly....I ALMOST didn't tune in this morning...but remember Tony was being recalled....and now Cindy....let's see which of her truths she tells

Glad you did.  I didn't expect to see Cindy until next week!. 

This should be good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 09:55:00 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image10-2.png)

Casey watching her mother testify

so much love in her eyes for her mother.....NOT!!!!  Guess she isn't sure what mommy is gonna say today!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:55:08 AM
bet the jurors are on the ege of their seat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 09:55:10 AM
CNN IS ONLY showing Casey...nothing else omfg I wish I could watch it on tvvvvvvvvvvvv ARGHGGGGGGGGGGGGG


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 09:55:14 AM
haha poor KC everyone gets to hear about her period/menstrual cycle/ being in sync with Cindy!

I bet she is dying inside of embarrassment!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Mary Ann on May 28, 2011, 09:55:52 AM
Casey took on a job in HR at Universal....she says it like it is true!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
CNN IS ONLY showing Casey...nothing else omfg I wish I could watch it on tvvvvvvvvvvvv ARGHGGGGGGGGGGGGG

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html

This has Cindy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 09:56:11 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  Swung by and first thing I hear is Cindy talking about her and Casey's Menstrual Cycles!  Is it time for a drink yet?
 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 09:56:32 AM
GO CINDY - "absolutely NOT" trying to hide the pregnancy!!!! YAY cindy!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:56:49 AM
CNN IS ONLY showing Casey...nothing else omfg I wish I could watch it on tvvvvvvvvvvvv ARGHGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Try this?

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:56:55 AM
CNN IS ONLY showing Casey...nothing else omfg I wish I could watch it on tvvvvvvvvvvvv ARGHGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Its annoying, more so because I had to put up CNN & WFTV up, I have them both desk pinned on top of the forum page & Im playing dancing screens LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 09:57:34 AM
Has Cindy seen the light?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:57:38 AM
GO CINDY - "absolutely NOT" trying to hide the pregnancy!!!! YAY cindy!!!!

Took her shopping for maternity clothes, had the nursery ready in two weeks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Red on May 28, 2011, 09:58:00 AM
oh baez is going to attack her!! because of them saying they didnt know she was preganant but had a pudgy tummy...

Going to be hard to go after Cindy because she is the mom. Defense can go after George because they are accusing him of sexual molestation. That is not the case with Cindy. If the Defense continues to be hostile to all witnesses that will not play well with jury.

The defense that everyone is lying and out to get Casey is a loser.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Mary Ann on May 28, 2011, 09:58:21 AM
So, she was sleeping with all these guys....didn't THEY know she was preggers?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 09:58:25 AM
No matter how crazy Cindy is she loved CAYLEE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CookieMonster on May 28, 2011, 09:58:25 AM
CNN IS ONLY showing Casey...nothing else omfg I wish I could watch it on tvvvvvvvvvvvv ARGHGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Nut, I'm watching the live feed on orlandosentinel.com, and it's mostly focused on the person on the stand, with some shots of KC and the prosecution at this point because they're questioning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 09:59:19 AM
Oh, boy...this IS going to be very, very difficult!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 09:59:52 AM
tell them the rest of the stuff is in the woods Cindy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:59:53 AM
GO CINDY - "absolutely NOT" trying to hide the pregnancy!!!! YAY cindy!!!!

Took her shopping for maternity clothes, had the nursery ready in two weeks.

That shoots that theory lol...Im sure they did to an extent from the shock & common embarrassment some feel by a teen unwed mother but not aftr. 

O dear Cindy lost it immediately on the Winnie Pooh bed, I dont know how she or George is going to get thru more horrific images


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 10:00:10 AM
Simms better start doing her job and consoling momster.  Looks like she's having a hard time working up tears this morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:00:18 AM
Oh, boy...this IS going to be very, very difficult!

I am over here tearing up and ICA sits there stone faced


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: numbersgirl on May 28, 2011, 10:00:19 AM
OMG..showing Cindy photos of Caylee's bed!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:00:25 AM
is caseys demeanor cold as cindy cries???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:00:37 AM
tell them the rest of the stuff is in the woods Cindy

See there are going to be any number of problems due to their actions after July 15th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image11-3.png) (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image12-1.png)

Picture entered into evidence, and Cindy's reaction to seeing it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:00:44 AM
Holy Moly....I ALMOST didn't tune in this morning...but remember Tony was being recalled....and now Cindy....let's see which of her truths she tells

Glad you did.  I didn't expect to see Cindy until next week!. 

This should be good!

Good to see you too....can't wait to hear her testimony.....oh lordy here comes the tears...........I am going to dig deep to try to muster some sympathy for her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:01:24 AM
is caseys demeanor cold as cindy cries???

Yes, but she is trying to get emotional....emphasis on the word trying.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:01:26 AM
Oh, boy...this IS going to be very, very difficult!

I hope the jury contrasts Cindy's torture with Casey's lack of anything.  She is void of caring for anything but herself. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
So, she was sleeping with all these guys....didn't THEY know she was preggers?

We don't know who she was sleeping with back in 2005


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:01:50 AM
Casey took on a job in HR at Universal....she says it like it is true!


right and why didn't Linda correct her???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:01:54 AM
Oh, boy...this IS going to be very, very difficult!

I am over here tearing up and ICA sits there stone faced
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:02:07 AM
Casey looks saddened by watching her mom cry.  First time I've seen possible emotion from her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 10:02:18 AM
Never thought I'd say this but my heart is breaking for Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Mary Ann on May 28, 2011, 10:02:30 AM
Casey is a cold hearted snake, can't believe she sits there like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:03:14 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image13-2.png)

Casey trying to muster up some tears


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 10:03:32 AM
Casey is a cold hearted snake, can't believe she sits there like that.
and the jury is noticing all of this.. keep the pokerface KC  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 10:03:50 AM
I think Caylee's bed was the trigger for Cindy. She's probably crying more for the stress of having to testify against her own daughter and still protect her daughter while doing right by Caylee whom she loved greatly, while trying to protect George. If I was her I don't know if I'd be ever able to stop crying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:04:43 AM
Wonder if any of the jurors are crying for cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:05:42 AM
Never thought I'd say this but my heart is breaking for Cindy.
omg me too as much as I have detested her and george my heart feels for them...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:06:38 AM
CNN's camera is now going back and forth & showing diagram, Cindy, Linda but its a few seconds behind


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:06:38 AM
Casey took on a job in HR at Universal....she says it like it is true!


right and why didn't Linda correct her???

self edit....did to didn't...
Klaas please correct it if you happen to see it ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pinkbanana on May 28, 2011, 10:07:07 AM
I feel bad for Cindy...this has to be hard.

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 10:07:15 AM
I am so glad it is Linda questioning her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 10:07:54 AM
Holy Moly....I ALMOST didn't tune in this morning...but remember Tony was being recalled....and now Cindy....let's see which of her truths she tells

Glad you did.  I didn't expect to see Cindy until next week!. 

This should be good!

Good to see you too....can't wait to hear her testimony.....oh lordy here comes the tears...........I am going to dig deep to try to muster some sympathy for her

aww, you can do it.  I hate to see anyone cry.  At least she weeps, unlike skank daughter who fakes it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: numbersgirl on May 28, 2011, 10:08:01 AM
I love the way Linda is handling Cindy.  She's a master.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:08:47 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image18-3.png)

Aerial view just admitted as evidence


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 10:09:00 AM
This has probably been mentioned 100 times, but WTF is up with Casey's 'pouty' mouth syndrome????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 10:09:50 AM
I think Caylee's bed was the trigger for Cindy. She's probably crying more for the stress of having to testify against her own daughter and still protect her daughter while doing right by Caylee whom she loved greatly, while trying to protect George. If I was her I don't know if I'd be ever able to stop crying.

nor me.  Both C and G have lots to cry about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:09:55 AM
From our Magpie's twitter Needs link.  MB

MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Casey Is to cold. She's glaring like she can't believe her moms crying. The jury is noticing this too!

magpie is in the courtroom


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 10:09:58 AM
They couldnt grow grass? could it be all the lime they spread? I feel bad and hope she does the right thing but she is still ugh to me.. her lies were over the top


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:11:25 AM
I love the way Linda is handling Cindy.  She's a master.   ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image17-2.png)

...and I cannot help but notice how Cindy's attitude has changed with the State. No argumentative attitude today.

Big change so far, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 10:11:30 AM
I love the way Linda is handling Cindy.  She's a master.   ::MonkeyAngel::
Ms Drane Burdick is number 1 in my book.  What a wonderful young woman!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:12:58 AM
is Caylee's playhouse still in the backyard?  that's weird, IMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:13:04 AM
They couldnt grow grass? could it be all the lime they spread? I feel bad and hope she does the right thing but she is still ugh to me.. her lies were over the top
The A's biggest problem is that they elaborate too much.  They need to just answer yes or no, or respond only to the question asked.  This is one reason I think they'll raise some suspicions about them.  But Cindy, for someone who'd never seen her in action, is very sympathetic on the stand today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:13:13 AM
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela  Needs link please.  MB
Casey Is to cold. She's glaring like she can't believe her moms crying. The jury is noticing this too!
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply » MagpieFromHinky Pamela
The animosity between Cindy and Linda Burdick seems gone. I guess they need the State to protect them
21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply »
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Tony Lazzaro is a powerful State witness. Jurors seem weighted on his words
29 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 28, 2011, 10:13:20 AM
From our Magpie's twitter  Needs link.  MB

MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Casey Is to cold. She's glaring like she can't believe her moms crying. The jury is noticing this too!

magpie is in the courtroom

thanks loca. Love magpie.  Wonder when ICA will begain shaking her head at Mom's testimony?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:13:55 AM
I love the way Linda is handling Cindy.  She's a master.   ::MonkeyAngel::
Ms Drane Burdick is number 1 in my book.  What a wonderful young woman!
I so agree.  Smart and talented, and oh, so good at her job!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 10:13:57 AM
I love the way Linda is handling Cindy.  She's a master.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::rhino::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:15:41 AM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela Needs link please.  MB
Casey Is to cold. She's glaring like she can't believe her moms crying. The jury is noticing this too!
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply » MagpieFromHinky Pamela
The animosity between Cindy and Linda Burdick seems gone. I guess they need the State to protect them
21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply »
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Tony Lazzaro is a powerful State witness. Jurors seem weighted on his words
29 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

at first i thought kc was showing emotion, but i have only been listening to most of the case at work, after reflecting on it, she does appear cold


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:16:28 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image19.png)

Evidence image discussed

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image20-1.png)

Entered into evidence


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
"These are our other TWO sheds", geez Cindy how many sheds did you guys need?  Maybe this is where Caylee spent a few days after her death, before the smell got really bad...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:17:33 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image21-4.png)

Just entered as evidence


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 10:17:52 AM
love that Tony...seems like he is a very caring person...
wouldn't have taken long before he saw the Casey that she really was..evil..they were in the lusting stage still when he was with her....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 10:18:56 AM
This has probably been mentioned 100 times, but WTF is up with Casey's 'pouty' mouth syndrome????
It's her "buffoon baboon" look.......not, I repeat, NOT an endearing look for the jurors!!
Beotch! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
love that Tony...seems like he is a very caring person...
wouldn't have taken long before he saw the Casey that she really was..evil..they were in the lusting stage still when he was with her....



agreed.  the first month or so in many relationships seems to be the most intense.  the couple doesn't know each other really well yet and both are usually on the "best" behavior, striving to put their best foot forward IMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:19:50 AM
Is Linda trying to prove that Caylee couldn't have gotten into the pool without help?  If she can do that, it destroys the defense's claim that Caylee got out and drowned by herself without help.  Oh, please, let Linda prevail!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:20:00 AM
love that Tony...seems like he is a very caring person...
wouldn't have taken long before he saw the Casey that she really was..evil..they were in the lusting stage still when he was with her....



Please some monkey, what did Tony say so damaging? I was cooking, couldn't watch. Thanks in advance!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:20:27 AM
I think Cindy and George are telling the truth now and not trying to protect Casey any longer.  I don't think they want to hurt her but I think the are out of protection mode now and letting the chips fall where they may.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:20:30 AM
Is Linda trying to prove that Caylee couldn't have gotten into the pool without help?  If she can do that, it destroys the defense's claim that Caylee got out and drowned by herself without help.  Oh, please, let Linda prevail!

But the ladder I think Cindy said the ladder was left up


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:20:32 AM
This has probably been mentioned 100 times, but WTF is up with Casey's 'pouty' mouth syndrome????
It's her "buffoon baboon" look.......not, I repeat, NOT an endearing look for the jurors!!
Beotch! ::MonkeyMad::
She looks spoiled and petulant...Jurors are going to hate that.  (I know I do!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:21:16 AM
Is Linda trying to prove that Caylee couldn't have gotten into the pool without help?  If she can do that, it destroys the defense's claim that Caylee got out and drowned by herself without help.  Oh, please, let Linda prevail!

Unless she climbed a ladder...which normally was not left up at the pool


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: akmom on May 28, 2011, 10:21:16 AM
I think that the Anthony's have left everything, probably even Caylee's room the way it was when she died.  I think though, if there was any thought that Caylee drowned under any circumstances, they would have taken that pool out, because it would be too awful to leave there   JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:22:24 AM
Is Linda trying to prove that Caylee couldn't have gotten into the pool without help?  If she can do that, it destroys the defense's claim that Caylee got out and drowned by herself without help.  Oh, please, let Linda prevail!

But the ladder I think Cindy said the ladder was left up
But how far up was the bottom of the ladder from the ground?  Could Caylee climb up to the bottom of the ladder?  2 and 1/2 year olds have short little legs...Aww, just thinking about Caylee makes me tear up, poor little thing.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
love that Tony...seems like he is a very caring person...
wouldn't have taken long before he saw the Casey that she really was..evil..they were in the lusting stage still when he was with her....



Please some monkey, what did Tony say so damaging? I was cooking, couldn't watch. Thanks in advance!!

He was very angry at Casey for lying to him and acting like Caylee was ok.  I think he felt stupid for being with someone who would give such a blatant disregard for the location of her daughter and when he asked KC why she didn't tell him, he kept getting the same "I don't know" answer from her which frustrated him greatly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:22:48 AM
love that Tony...seems like he is a very caring person...
wouldn't have taken long before he saw the Casey that she really was..evil..they were in the lusting stage still when he was with her....



Please some monkey, what did Tony say so damaging? I was cooking, couldn't watch. Thanks in advance!!

They introduced a text conversations between the two, after it came to light that Caylee was missing.  I had never heard it before.  Tony asked Casey why she didn't tell him of all people that Caylee was missing. He cared about them.  Casey said she was the worst mother, her parents wouldn't forgive her and that if they didn't find Caylee (who she wasn't sure she'd ever see again) she would spend eternity in jail. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:22:53 AM
I think that the Anthony's have left everything, probably even Caylee's room the way it was when she died.  I think though, if there was any thought that Caylee drowned under any circumstances, they would have taken that pool out, because it would be too awful to leave there   JMO

Id have a hard time leaving the pool up, certainly never be able to swim in it again if it was an accident or drowning by murder...Im sure there are people that feel the same & some that could overcome it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
Is Linda trying to prove that Caylee couldn't have gotten into the pool without help?  If she can do that, it destroys the defense's claim that Caylee got out and drowned by herself without help.  Oh, please, let Linda prevail!

But the ladder I think Cindy said the ladder was left up
If Caylee died in the pool, it's because Casey unlocked the sliding glass doors and put the pool ladder up...on purpose. I will never believe Caylee's death was an accident.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 10:22:56 AM
so...InSessions is showing this at 1:00? is that the same as Court Tv? I have to leave and don't want to miss it...I thought I saw it on HLN that they would be showing it at 1...now I am confused..help someone..in case I have to VCR it..thank you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:23:12 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image22-2.png)

Just entered in evidence, being discussed now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:23:15 AM
I think that the Anthony's have left everything, probably even Caylee's room the way it was when she died.  I think though, if there was any thought that Caylee drowned under any circumstances, they would have taken that pool out, because it would be too awful to leave there   JMO
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:23:44 AM
love that Tony...seems like he is a very caring person...
wouldn't have taken long before he saw the Casey that she really was..evil..they were in the lusting stage still when he was with her....



Please some monkey, what did Tony say so damaging? I was cooking, couldn't watch. Thanks in advance!!

He was very angry at Casey for lying to him and acting like Caylee was ok.  I think he felt stupid for being with someone who would give such a blatant disregard for the location of her daughter and when he asked KC why she didn't tell him, he kept getting the same "I don't know" answer from her which frustrated him greatly

Thank you so much! And excellent point, too! Why would she share her "secret" with him but not tell about where Caylee was....hummmm!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on May 28, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
Is this on one of the t.v. stations.  I can't find it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:24:04 AM
That play house. I wonder if ICA put Caylee there to sleep?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:24:40 AM
love that Tony...seems like he is a very caring person...
wouldn't have taken long before he saw the Casey that she really was..evil..they were in the lusting stage still when he was with her....



Please some monkey, what did Tony say so damaging? I was cooking, couldn't watch. Thanks in advance!!

They introduced a text conversations between the two, after it came to light that Caylee was missing.  I had never heard it before.  Tony asked Casey why she didn't tell him of all people that Caylee was missing. He cared about them.  Casey said she was the worst mother, her parents wouldn't forgive her and that if they didn't find Caylee (who she wasn't sure she'd ever see again) she would spend eternity in jail. 

Wow, wow! Thank you!!! That is damaging!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 10:24:56 AM
I think Cindy and George are telling the truth now and not trying to protect Casey any longer.  I don't think they want to hurt her but I think the are out of protection mode now and letting the chips fall where they may.


I hope that this is going to be what will happen with all of the Anthony's. I know that they have to miss Caylee like hell....
Maybe they are figuring out that their lives are alot less chaotic without Casey around .....
Plus, hopefully they have admitted the truth to themselves...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:24:57 AM
Defense atty's are talking a lot during this testimony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
KC shaking her head no, while Cindy cries an Linda explains backyard layout


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:26:02 AM
Holy Moly....I ALMOST didn't tune in this morning...but remember Tony was being recalled....and now Cindy....let's see which of her truths she tells

Glad you did.  I didn't expect to see Cindy until next week!. 

This should be good!

Good to see you too....can't wait to hear her testimony.....oh lordy here comes the tears...........I am going to dig deep to try to muster some sympathy for her

aww, you can do it.  I hate to see anyone cry.  At least she weeps, unlike skank daughter who fakes it!

LOL  don't count on it.  She has seen Caylee's bedroom for the past 2 1/2 years.  And I keep seeing her depo with John Morgan in my mind....she is also a drama queen so I would have to dig really, really deep!! I will agree this must be difficult for her...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:26:02 AM
I wish Cindy would look at Casey and just scream why!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:26:10 AM
Cindy is trying really hard not to lose it...

Casey is pouting and shaking her head no...she is very cold & cant muster getting upset albeit she is trying.   She was handed a tissue, NO TEARS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:26:20 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image23-2.png)

Not going to keep posting every photo entered, there are just so many.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:26:37 AM
KC shaking her head no, while Cindy cries an Linda explains backyard layout

I hope the jury takes note that she's doing that, proving her no's are just show, because she can't lie about the yard layout...there are pics!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:26:40 AM
Cindy acts like a truly grieving person.  She really seems resigned today.  Maybe to the truth finally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:26:47 AM
if casey cries its for her because she knows its the beging of the end.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:27:14 AM
I love the way Linda is handling Cindy.  She's a master.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::
I see KC is mustering up some fake tears...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 10:27:15 AM
I hope Bozo won't have the chance to cross examine Cindy today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:27:28 AM
Casey, fake crying.  She always looks at the tissue when she is doing the pretend emotion thing.  She also looks ticked off more that sad, tears of "frushtration" perhaps?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Casey was shaking her head in anger that Cindy cries for Caylee. "Caylee, Caylee, Caylee...it's always about Caylee. What about me??" Any tears are tears of anger.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:27:51 AM
Is this on one of the t.v. stations.  I can't find it

It won't be on InSessions until 1pm-4pm which means it won't be live, but I think us monkeys are watching the online streams right now...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:27:57 AM
I hope the state brings out that all the food, clothes, flash cards, etc that Caylee had was provided for by someone other than her LOVING mother!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 10:28:33 AM
Is Linda trying to prove that Caylee couldn't have gotten into the pool without help?  If she can do that, it destroys the defense's claim that Caylee got out and drowned by herself without help.  Oh, please, let Linda prevail!

Dunno how she will do that tho, because of the ladder.  And then there was something next to the pool, between the pool and house, like a ledge of some kind.  Greta showed it during an interview.  The ledge could have been climbed on, if I recall. 

A two year old can definitely climb a ladder.  Even a tall ladder.  My two yr old son once went lickety split up a ladder to the roof.  I nearly had heart failure!  So Caylee could have climbed the pool ladder easily at her age.  As to pushing it over there herself?  Maybe not. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:28:34 AM
I think Caylee's bed was the trigger for Cindy. She's probably crying more for the stress of having to testify against her own daughter and still protect her daughter while doing right by Caylee whom she loved greatly, while trying to protect George. If I was her I don't know if I'd be ever able to stop crying.

nor me.  Both C and G have lots to cry about.

I agree....and the TRUTH is very healing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
Is this on one of the t.v. stations.  I can't find it

It won't be on InSessions until 1pm-4pm which means it won't be live, but I think us monkeys are watching the online streams right now...

Yes, streaming online.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:29:15 AM
I hope Bozo won't have the chance to cross examine Cindy today.

I would bet the state wouldn't mind that either.  A long couple days for this heart-wrenching testimony to sink in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:29:21 AM
I hope the state brings out that all the food, clothes, flash cards, etc that Caylee had was provided for by someone other than her LOVING mother!  ::MonkeyMad::
And also, the learning to count to 40 in Spanish, wasn't done by Casey, it was "Dora the Explorer"!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:29:55 AM
I hope the state brings out that all the food, clothes, flash cards, etc that Caylee had was provided for by someone other than her LOVING mother!  ::MonkeyMad::

ME TOO!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:30:13 AM
Casey, there are no tears on the dang tissue you fake skanky ......

RECESS 15 MINS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:30:31 AM
I bet LDB is going to ask CIndy if there would be a way for Caylee to get to the pool on her own.  Casey would have had to leave something undone for Caylee to get out, I bet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 10:31:01 AM
I hope Bozo won't have the chance to cross examine Cindy today.

If he does.... I am sure he will lose even more respect for himself from the jury...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:31:07 AM
They couldnt grow grass? could it be all the lime they spread? I feel bad and hope she does the right thing but she is still ugh to me.. her lies were over the top
The A's biggest problem is that they elaborate too much.  They need to just answer yes or no, or respond only to the question asked.  This is one reason I think they'll raise some suspicions about them.  But Cindy, for someone who'd never seen her in action, is very sympathetic on the stand today.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:31:22 AM
Casey, there are no tears on the dang tissue you fake skanky ......

RECESS 15 MINS
She had to be cued for this false attempt to cry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:31:42 AM
I bet LDB is going to ask CIndy if there would be a way for Caylee to get to the pool on her own.  Casey would have had to leave something undone for Caylee to get out, I bet.

yes, that is alot of security for one little girl to get through without being noticed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
Wow, Cindy didn't even look over at Casey!  A first, for sure.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:32:22 AM
Casey crying now. I wish i could read lips!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 10:32:29 AM
OMG...Casey is pizzed and crying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:32:29 AM
O HOLY CRAP

Casey is having a fit about something....very angry & now crying for herself


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
I wish I could read lips! What is Casey saying!??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 10:32:52 AM
Has Cindy even looked at Casey?  I didn't think so ... but I also have two channels on.  Oh, Wow!  Momster turned on the waterworks after the jury left!  Must be sinking in that Mommy isn't on her side anymore??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:33:03 AM
had to do something .. did cindy look at casey when she left the stand???

and is tony still on hold.. poor guy.. today he seems not so snarky and more disgusted with the inmate.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:33:08 AM
Whoa!  KC's having a hissy fit!  Pointing that finger, crying out of anger, something about "she's".

As always, pizzed at Mom.   Good!  It's just started!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:33:20 AM
I have no doubt that Cindy and George included Casey in the conversation about the house, but there is no way in he77 that Casey contributed to the cost. She had to steal Shirley's check to pay for the B'Day cake.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:33:29 AM
Casey crying now. I wish i could read lips!!
She is really pizzed.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 10:33:38 AM
Casey's having a meltdown. Furious. Tears of rage! First genuine tears I've ever seen. First genuine emotion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:33:42 AM
Casey in huge uber-meltdown.  I get the feeling Casey is so used to being catered to, no matter what carp she's pulled, she is absolutely crushed that Cindy isn't pandering to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 10:33:52 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:33:53 AM
Oooh! KC's really angry now!  Ha!  She's not getting her way.  Truth is coming out!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pinkbanana on May 28, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
I wish I could read lips! What is Casey saying!??

My daughter said she said something about she is nothing... idk

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:34:02 AM
what is going on....I walked away for just a moment and come back and KC is having a bawling fit and no sound for me ,...what happened?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 10:34:12 AM
Looked as if CINDY didn't give casey one look as she left the courtroom...
Aww poor casey, crying......awww ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 10:34:13 AM
I hope the state brings out that all the food, clothes, flash cards, etc that Caylee had was provided for by someone other than her LOVING mother!  ::MonkeyMad::

ME TOO!!


I was watching some testimony yesterday, my son, his gf and my hubs were in here and someone was asked by Bozo the standard, was Caylee ever unfed, neglected, etc....
My son spoke up and said, "well, weren't George and Cindy the ones taking care of her and buying all her food and stuff"?
If this fact is not lost on a 19 yr old boy who only catches bits and pieces from me watching I am certain it is not lost on the juryt....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:34:29 AM
OMG...Casey is pizzed and crying.
in her sick twisted mind she must think... they are not  supporting me as they never have... duh... now kc realizes she has no suppoort xcept her inept atty ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:34:56 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

OMG did she really?

Good maybe now she will stop lying..yeah right


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 10:34:59 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:35:00 AM
This is how I read Casey's hissy fit...shes pissed that her mother is speaking as its all about Caylee.   She didnt this, she didnt mention me....blah blah blah   Im a victim, she's not telling the truth, she cries for Caylee and not me

OMG, jury you better convict this beeotch or I might had a meltdown myself!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:35:01 AM
I wish I could read lips! What is Casey saying!??

My daughter said she said something about she is nothing... idk

pb
I saw the same.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:35:15 AM
I hope the state brings out that all the food, clothes, flash cards, etc that Caylee had was provided for by someone other than her LOVING mother!  ::MonkeyMad::

ME TOO!!

I just think the picture will be painted that Casey didn't mother Caylee.  You can say you love someone but that is a far cry from being a good mother.  I think Casey did neglect Caylee's physical needs.  Caylee was taken care of and provided for by George and Cindy.  Casey was no more of a mother than a bad babysitter.  Casey, at best, babysat Caylee and when that became to much work for her, well we all know.

When all these people testify to all the clothes, food, etc that Caylee had, it goes more to show what kinds of grandparents Caylee had than mother.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:35:23 AM
I wish I could read lips! What is Casey saying!??

My daughter said she said something about she is nothing... idk

pb

I caught the She or She's, but that was it. Wowsa!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 10:35:37 AM
Good, maybe Casey will blurt out a confession


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 10:35:48 AM
Hey Casey!  Remember that bus that was getting ready to mow down your dad?  I think it's turned around and headed right for you!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:35:53 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

OMG did she really?

Good maybe now she will stop lying..yeah right

Actually I think that is something she said - Im trying to read her lips, it appears she said "she didnt" a few times


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 10:36:02 AM
I'm sorry, but would it be too much trouble for someone on the duhfense team to tell their client to STOP WIPING IMAGINARY TEARS FROM HER FACE!!!( unless you're going for the I'm a cold-blooded killer evil beotch look) ::MonkeyMad::

FTLOG!!!!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:36:22 AM
Hey Casey!  Remember that bus that was getting ready to mow down your dad?  I think it's turned around and headed right for you!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Make it a train...choo choo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 10:36:31 AM
I thought court was 9-1 today?
That dress Cindy has on in with the black top and printed bottom looks like it crisscrosses at the bodice..not a good look for her.. makes her boobs look huge and droopier.. I hope she does the right thing for caylee. lets see what happens when the rubber meets the road
I hope during their pretrial meeting with the state, they were told what Bozo was going to do to them.. maybe his opening dog and pony show convinced them


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 10:36:32 AM
O HOLY CRAP

Casey is having a fit about something....very angry & now crying for herself

 ::rhino:: Sure wish the jury could have seen that. 





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 10:36:35 AM
I hope the state brings out that all the food, clothes, flash cards, etc that Caylee had was provided for by someone other than her LOVING mother!  ::MonkeyMad::

ME TOO!!

I just think the picture will be painted that Casey didn't mother Caylee.  You can say you love someone but that is a far cry from being a good mother.  I think Casey did neglect Caylee's physical needs.  Caylee was taken care of and provided for by George and Cindy.  Casey was no more of a mother than a bad babysitter.  Casey, at best, babysat Caylee and when that became to much work for her, well we all know.

When all these people testify to all the clothes, food, etc that Caylee had, it goes more to show what kinds of grandparents Caylee had than mother.


I agree....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:36:37 AM
Good, maybe Casey will blurt out a confession
Exactly.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:36:53 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

the sick pig  ::piggy:: does not get it!1 you cant have it both ways.. first you throw them to the dogs and than u want suport ... the jury will not buy her side nottttt at all... she is toast... its starting to unravel for her.,.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 10:37:12 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/cry.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:37:25 AM
I hope she was loud enough for media to overhear. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 10:37:30 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

OMG did she really?

Good maybe now she will stop lying..yeah right

Absolutely 100% said that. Also said something "She did (didn't?) for three years..."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:37:34 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)
::MonkeyTongue:: her sense of entitlement is unbelievable.  Can't believe her mom isn't going to side with her even though she threw the whole family under the bus.  Maybe she expected Cindy to continue supporting her since she hasn't accused her (yet) of molesting her!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:37:43 AM
Gee, maybe Casey should have seen Cindy on Mother's day, huh?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:37:48 AM
O HOLY CRAP

Casey is having a fit about something....very angry & now crying for herself

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image26-3.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 28, 2011, 10:37:57 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/cry.jpg)

I wish the jury would have seen this meltdown!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:38:40 AM
Good, maybe Casey will blurt out a confession
Exactly.   ::MonkeyCool::

its basicaly the begining of the end.. the jury has already formed their opinion of her.. this from now on will be to seal their suspicions... the circumstantial evidence and the forensics will seal her fate..
there is nothing bozo or mason can say that will be effective... there is still kronk who had the body how will they fit him in!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 10:38:44 AM
Casey's having a meltdown. Furious. Tears of rage! First genuine tears I've ever seen. First genuine emotion.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:38:51 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

OMG did she really?

Good maybe now she will stop lying..yeah right

Actually I think that is something she said - Im trying to read her lips, it appears she said "she didnt" a few times

maybe it will sink in that everyone is going to do the right thing for Caylee and not worrying about her. I hope so. I hope she will not continue to put everyone through this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 10:38:58 AM
I'm sorry, but would it be too much trouble for someone on the duhfense team to tell their client to STOP WIPING IMAGINARY TEARS FROM HER FACE!!!( unless you're going for the I'm a cold-blooded killer evil beotch look) ::MonkeyMad::

FTLOG!!!!!!




That is another thing, yesterday when ICA was wiping away imaginary tears, my sons 17 yr old gf giggled and said" I don't seen any tears"....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: terryd270 on May 28, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
It's Saturday but this is too good and I'm actually feeling sorry for Cinde.  Well she should of seen Cinde on Mother's Day. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:39:10 AM
I wish I could read lips! What is Casey saying!??

My daughter said she said something about she is nothing... idk

pb

That's right Casey, you are NOTHING, a blight on society, an embarrassment to society, satan's spawn


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:39:19 AM
I thought she said something like, "She's doing this on purpose to hurt me!  She doesn't need to cry right now, she's trying to hurt me".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:39:21 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Don't know if you see this from home. Casey is in tears during this break. #caseyanthony
4 minutes ago
Jim Lichtenstein
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Feels weird seeing all this. I've been in their house and yard many times during our 3 yrs of coverage for @todayshow . #caseyanthony
8 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 10:39:21 AM
Looked as if CINDY didn't give casey one look as she left the courtroom...
Aww poor casey, crying......awww ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyShovel::

Yeppers!  I think that's what brought Casey's temper fit on, Cindy totally ignored her.   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:39:26 AM
I think Caylee's bed was the trigger for Cindy. She's probably crying more for the stress of having to testify against her own daughter and still protect her daughter while doing right by Caylee whom she loved greatly, while trying to protect George. If I was her I don't know if I'd be ever able to stop crying.

nor me.  Both C and G have lots to cry about.

I agree....and the TRUTH is very healing

Agree.  And I hope both G&C tell only the truth.  KC can get angry all she can.  Spit and sputter to her attorneys....Baez already told us KC is living in "her" world.  ha!  G&C live in the real world and I hope every bit of truth comes out.  It may hurt like he77, but in the end, it is the thing that will let G&C sleep at night.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 10:39:32 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)

Looks like she's crying mad.  Plain mad, like something isn't true???
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 28, 2011, 10:39:41 AM
Good, maybe Casey will blurt out a confession
Exactly.   ::MonkeyCool::

its basicaly the begining of the end.. the jury has already formed their opinion of her.. this from now on will be to seal their suspicions... the circumstantial evidence and the forensics will seal her fate..
there is nothing bozo or mason can say that will be effective... there is still kronk who had the body how will they fit him in!!
I believe Baez has just ben "Kronked"!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 10:39:45 AM
I hope she was loud enough for media to overhear. 
My thought exactly!  It looked like she was almost yelling.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:39:47 AM
Good, maybe Casey will blurt out a confession
Exactly.   ::MonkeyCool::

Not in a million years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:40:08 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

OMG did she really?

Good maybe now she will stop lying..yeah right

Absolutely 100% said that. Also said something "She did (didn't?) for three years..."

I hope it is all sinking in now!

Good job Cindy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 10:40:30 AM
Casey's having a meltdown. Furious. Tears of rage! First genuine tears I've ever seen. First genuine emotion.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)

Wondring if she will be clenching her fists like in the jailhouse video soon?She has that same look on her face... I have always wondered if that is the last thing Caylee saw before she died...that evil expression on Casey's face...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: numbersgirl on May 28, 2011, 10:40:47 AM
Is KC having a reality check?    ::MonkeyDance::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 10:41:02 AM
Anyone else notice how neither horseface or Simms tried to cover their mouths during her little meltdown?  Horseface wanted everyone to know what she was saying.  I caught "3 years" My impression was that she was moaning about Cindy backing her and believing her for 3 years.  She begged horseface to see her, sent her letters, gave her money for her pork rinds, and now on the stand she knows Cindy is D.O.N.E. with her.  Game Over. (I hope!!)
All my interpretation of the horsey fit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:41:15 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/cry.jpg)

I wish the jury would have seen this meltdown!

Crying for herself cause her mom won't protect her anymore!  How funny, even if she had been molested and hadn't done what she did to Caylee, she still got away with more than she ever should have up to that point.  Too bad Cindy didn't do this sooner.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 10:41:19 AM
Is Tony's video up yet anywhere from this morning? I slept in late =(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 10:41:28 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)

They couldn't pay me enough to comfort the lil biatch!   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: theboyzmom on May 28, 2011, 10:41:35 AM
Damn - I went and took a quick shower and missed it!  Anyone know if there is a quick replay somewhere I could watch?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:41:46 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

Ha! The tide has turned.  KC thinks she's the one to "not" look at mom - not the other way around.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 10:41:55 AM
I hope she was loud enough for media to overhear. 
My thought exactly!  It looked like she was almost yelling.

I think so too.
Pity that the sound is off...which I don't think is fair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 10:41:59 AM
Casey had been trying to catch Cindy's eye. I think she wanted Cindy to look at her and feel sorry for her, making this about Casey, and she was hoping to get Cindy to continue her long habit of protecting Casey against everyone including George. I think Casey hated George because he could see through her lies, being somewhat similar himself. Without George around, Cindy would be nothing but Casey's puppet, Casey believes. I think Cindy avoided looking at Casey for this very reason. She recognizes her own weakness for once.

It turned to rage when it seemed to her Cindy's emotion was about Caylee and not in sympathy for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:42:09 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
@
@saysumthinfunny can't hear her she just seems very upset
1 minute ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Casey is being consoled by attorneys and is crying and shaking her head. She seems mad. Her face is red from crying.
3 minutes ago
Casey Anthony News13
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Casey really started crying once court went into break. #CaseyAnthony
6 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:42:13 AM
Was Tony "dismissed" - or just dismissed for the time being?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)

Reality Check Miss Casey.......this isn't about you! This is about Caylee!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:42:47 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)
::MonkeyTongue:: her sense of entitlement is unbelievable.  Can't believe her mom isn't going to side with her even though she threw the whole family under the bus.  Maybe she expected Cindy to continue supporting her since she hasn't accused her (yet) of molesting her!


This is a childish spoiled brat tantrum coming from a narcissistic sociopath, even thru all that she is only concerned that the attention is not on her & she is not the one being adorn by all.   In a way I wish the jury saw that but I dont want any of them to misconstrue what it really is.

Notice that she waited for the jury to leave before she had this hissy fit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:42:57 AM
she has baez to thank for that.. when this is over she will curse him..or sooner


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:43:07 AM
I hope her hissy fit doesn't make Cindy feel bad for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 10:43:52 AM
Hey Casey!  Remember that bus that was getting ready to mow down your dad?  I think it's turned around and headed right for you!   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyGavel::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 10:44:10 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/almost.jpg)

Before the meltdown no real tears


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:44:12 AM
IS CNN still showing her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:44:38 AM
Oh now I see her lol she has calmed down


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 10:44:47 AM
Is Linda trying to prove that Caylee couldn't have gotten into the pool without help?  If she can do that, it destroys the defense's claim that Caylee got out and drowned by herself without help.  Oh, please, let Linda prevail!

But the ladder I think Cindy said the ladder was left up
But how far up was the bottom of the ladder from the ground?  Could Caylee climb up to the bottom of the ladder?  2 and 1/2 year olds have short little legs...Aww, just thinking about Caylee makes me tear up, poor little thing.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

We have a loft with "ladder stairs", we also have a grandson who just turned 2. 

He bolts up those stairs, so I would have to say yes, especially if she used the ladder on a regular basis to go in the pool with Cindy or whomever.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:44:56 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)
::MonkeyTongue:: her sense of entitlement is unbelievable.  Can't believe her mom isn't going to side with her even though she threw the whole family under the bus.  Maybe she expected Cindy to continue supporting her since she hasn't accused her (yet) of molesting her!


This is a childish spoiled brat tantrum coming from a narcissistic sociopath, even thru all that she is only concerned that the attention is not on her & she is not the one being adorn by all.   In a way I wish the jury saw that but I dont want any of them to misconstrue what it really is.

Notice that she waited for the jury to leave before she had this hissy fit.

she/baez will now say ... see when I told her my dad and brother molested me she called me a whore... see I told you.. they are going to use it to their advantage.. she feels entitled to what she is so not worthy of.. her jealousy of her mom  and the hatred .. caused her to kill her baby and than hire a clown to represent her..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 10:45:22 AM
Casey's having a meltdown. Furious. Tears of rage! First genuine tears I've ever seen. First genuine emotion.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)

LOL..I think she's mad still at her Mom for loving Caylee so much..she tried to cry at the point of the little playhousse..but juster couldn't muster up the right emotion..I thought then she's just mad because Caylee got all these things and Casey didn't have a playhouse of her own at Caylee's age.

Casey was dead cold through the entire time Cindy was on the stand..the jury is going to see a greiving Grandmom and then contrast that with a mother who can not muster one tear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:45:29 AM
Casey's having a meltdown. Furious. Tears of rage! First genuine tears I've ever seen. First genuine emotion.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/meltdown.jpg)

Wondring if she will be clenching her fists like in the jailhouse video soon?She has that same look on her face... I have always wondered if that is the last thing Caylee saw before she died...that evil expression on Casey's face...

Just like the jail visit video...pissed crying   "would someone let me speak, me me me, dang it me!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:45:31 AM
Is Tony's video up yet anywhere from this morning? I slept in late =(
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/6/NW-Y7KN-HnU
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/5/9zRrce4bOo8


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 10:45:51 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

OMG did she really?

Good maybe now she will stop lying..yeah right

Actually I think that is something she said - Im trying to read her lips, it appears she said "she didnt" a few times

maybe it will sink in that everyone is going to do the right thing for Caylee and not worrying about her. I hope so. I hope she will not continue to put everyone through this.

Everyone is telling the truth and Casey can't....that's her problem, at the moment,becuse we all know she only takes life minute by minute.

I did catch a few things KC said....and BTW...Cindy did give an eye signal, sort of, when she was trying to get comfortable on the witness stand. I posted it, but everybody blew on by...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:45:55 AM
Looks like she is explaining to Baez how Caylee could get to the pool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sassycat on May 28, 2011, 10:46:11 AM
Is Tony's video up yet anywhere from this morning? I slept in late =(
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/6/NW-Y7KN-HnU
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/5/9zRrce4bOo8

Thanks Trimm.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 10:46:41 AM
Hey Casey!  Remember that bus that was getting ready to mow down your dad?  I think it's turned around and headed right for you!   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyGavel::




I don't think it's a bus on the horizon either. 

It seems more like a frieght train.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:47:19 AM
I hate that when Casey throws fits she still gets attention.  Hopefully soon, she won't have people there to pander to her when she throws a tantrum. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 10:47:32 AM
So, when the jury returns, they will see that horseface has been crying.  I hope they don't mistake those tears for Caylee, they were all for her ugly self.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:47:40 AM
Casey just mouthed "She didn't look at me once..." and said something else

OMG did she really?

Good maybe now she will stop lying..yeah right

Actually I think that is something she said - Im trying to read her lips, it appears she said "she didnt" a few times

maybe it will sink in that everyone is going to do the right thing for Caylee and not worrying about her. I hope so. I hope she will not continue to put everyone through this.

Everyone is telling the truth and Casey can't....that's her problem, at the moment,becuse we all know she only takes life minute by minute.

I did catch a few things KC said....and BTW...Cindy did give an eye signal, sort of, when she was trying to get comfortable on the witness stand. I posted it, but everybody blew on by...

Oh I didn't see it. The thread was moving fast with her crying fit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 10:48:09 AM
Hey Casey!  Remember that bus that was getting ready to mow down your dad?  I think it's turned around and headed right for you!   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyGavel::




And right behind that bus is a steamroller to finish the deal.. ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:48:16 AM
Damn - I went and took a quick shower and missed it!  Anyone know if there is a quick replay somewhere I could watch?
wftv maybe or HLN is talking about the case?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 10:48:34 AM
It's Saturday but this is too good and I'm actually feeling sorry for Cinde.  Well she should of seen Cinde on Mother's Day. 

Hi terry!!  good to see you.....

I am really glad magpie is there today....and hope she heard KC's hissy fit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:48:42 AM
Just like the jail visit video...pissed crying   "would someone let me speak, me me me, dang it me!"
Imagine all that anger turned toward a small child.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:48:50 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image27-3.png)

Looks like temper tantrum is over now.

Court back in session.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:49:08 AM
kc lookes pisseddddddddddddddd


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 10:49:49 AM
Is Tony's video up yet anywhere from this morning? I slept in late =(
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/6/NW-Y7KN-HnU
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/5/9zRrce4bOo8

Thanks Trimm.    ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Trimm... I know alot of the monkeys will have withdrawals, but I have a long weekend and plan on playing all the testimony videos I have missed over the weekend....good time to catch up...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 10:49:53 AM
Did the A's leave the courtroom during recess? If they were still in there to witness Casey's tantrum, I recall that they seemed to have a habit of caving when Casey would get upset, like trying to pacify her. What Casey doesn't realize is the tool she had to use against them in the past was the threat of taking Caylee away, or later the possibility of her finally telling where to find Caylee. She no longer has that tool, Caylee, but Miss Narcissist doesn't get the difference.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
We are back, Cindy's testimony continues

Casey has recovered, which tells me it was a self-absorbed fit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:52:11 AM
Is Tony's video up yet anywhere from this morning? I slept in late =(
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/6/NW-Y7KN-HnU
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/5/9zRrce4bOo8

Thanks Trimm.    ::MonkeyAngel::
Hey Sassy!YW.
Today is very interesting.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:53:10 AM
I think Casey realized that her parents are NOT going to go along with her "accident" my father helped me dispose of the body defense.   This stupid skank truly believed that they would save her after all she has done, that's my take.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:53:13 AM
I hope Cindy can testify that Caylee had never gotten out before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 10:54:12 AM
O HOLY CRAP

Casey is having a fit about something....very angry & now crying for herself

 ::rhino:: Sure wish the jury could have seen that. 





Why was the jury dismissed?? Because Casey had a fit or have they even been in the courtroom today at all??? I just can't keep up....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 10:54:21 AM
Other than her over answering, who is this Cindy? the real one? she almost seems normal.. not the deposition Cindy from the Morgan tapes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:54:31 AM
Just like the jail visit video...pissed crying   "would someone let me speak, me me me, dang it me!"
Imagine all that anger turned toward a small child.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

It is too painful for Caylee & due to experience


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:55:18 AM
O HOLY CRAP

Casey is having a fit about something....very angry & now crying for herself

 ::rhino:: Sure wish the jury could have seen that. 


No it was a comfort 15 min recess




Why was the jury dismissed?? Because Casey had a fit or have they even been in the courtroom today at all??? I just can't keep up....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
We are back, Cindy's testimony continues

Casey has recovered, which tells me it was a self-absorbed fit
::MonkeyWink:: was there ever a doubt?  If I were Cindy, after all I'd done to protect, cover, pacify, etc. the little horseface, I'd burn her big.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 10:55:44 AM
I hope Cindy can testify that Caylee had never gotten out before.

Me to you know Cindy made sure Caylee could not get to that pool alone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cw618 on May 28, 2011, 10:55:49 AM
seems no live feeds are focused on KC now,live feeds are chicken now
or they are waiting for the big break


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:55:57 AM
 http://ht.ly/5576X

Video of her break down... anyone look this over yet? Can you see what shes saying?
Did you read KC's lips... I think after Cindy left the stand KC just said "she never protected me"! It's always about her, never about Caylee! KC is an evil spoiled brat! I can't stand what she is doing to her own family!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 10:56:06 AM
Other than her over answering, who is this Cindy? the real one? she almost seems normal.. not the deposition Cindy from the Morgan tapes


I was wondering the same thing.... so far, Cindy seems like someone I could carry on a conversation with and maybe even like? Oh gee... I really DO need more coffee.... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:57:15 AM
Just struck me....this Irish family has Chinese/Japanese furnishings/decor. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 10:57:28 AM
O HOLY CRAP

Casey is having a fit about something....very angry & now crying for herself

 ::rhino:: Sure wish the jury could have seen that. 


Why was the jury dismissed?? Because Casey had a fit or have they even been in the courtroom today at all??? I just can't keep up....

Court took a brief break, and the jury went out.  Cindy stepped down and didn't look at Casey.  As soon as the jury was gone, Casey had a temper tantrum. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:57:42 AM
We are back, Cindy's testimony continues

Casey has recovered, which tells me it was a self-absorbed fit
::MonkeyWink:: was there ever a doubt?  If I were Cindy, after all I'd done to protect, cover, pacify, etc. the little horseface, I'd burn her big.

No doubt at all...if I were Cindy I'd point blank state she put up with all too much, enabled her, protected her even when she shouldnt BUT when you killed my granddaughter & then tried to pin this on your father, you are dead to me.  Not to mention people would have a hard time keeping me from ringing her neck personally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 10:57:44 AM
Cindy sez KC bought door knob covers to protect Caylee. I call "BS!" unless Casey was using her "hooker money"--from my theory that she was an escort, or unless Cindy sent her to the store with her own cash!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:58:27 AM
casey is showing hate
so casey bought the secure lock thingies.. cant blame it on no one but casey for caylees killing her baby out of rage.../jealousyyyy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:58:28 AM
Other than her over answering, who is this Cindy? the real one? she almost seems normal.. not the deposition Cindy from the Morgan tapes
I know, let's just hope she stays with the truth throughout.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
http://ht.ly/5576X

Video of her break down... anyone look this over yet? Can you see what shes saying?
Did you read KC's lips... I think after Cindy left the stand KC just said "she never protected me"! It's always about her, never about Caylee! KC is an evil spoiled brat! I can't stand what she is doing to her own family!

Ill give it a college try later Loco


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 10:58:54 AM
Is the home layout such that Caylee would have to go through the living room, past George, to get out to the pool that morning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 10:59:49 AM
I just got here but hearing Cindy say "Casey went out and purchased them" (the door knob restraints) sounds like she is trying to make KC look responsible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 11:00:27 AM
You learn your child's speech


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:00:28 AM
A ha, previous to Casey having a fit with her mother, Cindy saw Caylee and/or Casey daily


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on May 28, 2011, 11:00:55 AM
So how is Cindy doing?  My internet connection is too slow. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
I just got here but hearing Cindy say "Casey went out and purchased them" (the door knob restraints) sounds like she is trying to make KC look responsible.


She might not realize that Casey bought them with the money she stole from a family member...btw...Dollar trees carry those door knob thingys and all the rest of that stuff....I have bought them there...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:01:37 AM
I just got here but hearing Cindy say "Casey went out and purchased them" (the door knob restraints) sounds like she is trying to make KC look responsible.

I wouldnt conclude that, just a statement of fact...it doesnt appear (yet) that she is defending Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 11:01:39 AM
So how is Cindy doing?  My internet connection is too slow. 

Cindy is doing good and Casey is losing it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:02:05 AM
I think this whole molestation defense tactic would work a lot better if Casey was accused of killing her parents rather than her defenseless 2 year old. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Red on May 28, 2011, 11:03:12 AM
You learn your child's speech

Blonde. i noticed that too. Not grandchild's ... childs. I think we are starting to see the dynamic that the grandparents took care of this child probably more than Casey. mother of the year 2008.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 11:03:31 AM
did cindy say anything that caused  Casey's crying or did it just seem random?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:04:08 AM
You learn your child's speech

Blonde. i noticed that too. Not grandchild's ... childs. I think we are starting to see the dynamic that the grandparents took care of this child probably more than Casey. mother of the year 2008.

It seems that this was already obvious but its coming out during trial slow but sure


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:04:11 AM
I just got here but hearing Cindy say "Casey went out and purchased them" (the door knob restraints) sounds like she is trying to make KC look responsible.

I wouldnt conclude that, just a statement of fact...it doesnt appear (yet) that she is defending Casey.

I think she is making a favorable first impression on the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:04:20 AM
Aww are they going to show her last video?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:04:31 AM
I hope they play the nursing home video


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
O boy...Pa pa pictures coming out

Cindy says "That's our Caylee."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
We are back, Cindy's testimony continues

Casey has recovered, which tells me it was a self-absorbed fit
::MonkeyWink:: was there ever a doubt?  If I were Cindy, after all I'd done to protect, cover, pacify, etc. the little horseface, I'd burn her big.

No doubt at all...if I were Cindy I'd point blank state she put up with all too much, enabled her, protected her even when she shouldnt BUT when you killed my granddaughter & then tried to pin this on your father, you are dead to me.  Not to mention people would have a hard time keeping me from ringing her neck personally.
Amen, sista!  If my daughter did this to me and her father, I'd disown her.  Seriously disown her.  There are limits, and as much as Cindy and George disgust me, I do think they did not want to believe inmate could kill her own daughter.  I think they covered her out of guilt, they knew they had overindulged her.  I think George had a lot of secrets that horseface knew about and that's what held him back.  Probably affairs and internet sex stuff. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:05:17 AM
you can tell Cindy misses her so much.  Casey sure didn't


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:05:25 AM
Good. June 15 pics. and video @ nursing home.
Recv'd and published.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:05:36 AM
I just got here but hearing Cindy say "Casey went out and purchased them" (the door knob restraints) sounds like she is trying to make KC look responsible.

I wouldnt conclude that, just a statement of fact...it doesnt appear (yet) that she is defending Casey.

I think she is making a favorable first impression on the jury.

Thus far, yes she is & sympathetic (who would have thunk it!).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:05:46 AM
Baez is staring at Caylees picture. Wonder what he is thinking


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 11:05:51 AM
Good, maybe Casey will blurt out a confession
Exactly.   ::MonkeyCool::

its basicaly the begining of the end.. the jury has already formed their opinion of her.. this from now on will be to seal their suspicions... the circumstantial evidence and the forensics will seal her fate..
there is nothing bozo or mason can say that will be effective... there is still kronk who had the body how will they fit him in!!

LOL..my son just woke up and said is this trial still going on..yes..Good Lord he says..save the taxpayers the money and just get the jury to give their verdict now..you know she is guilty as he!!.  He has 2 little ones that live here..he's 25..he does not cut any slack for bad parenting and whorish behavior...he walks the talk.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
Simms had to cue Casey once again for the fake crying.  I'm so sick of this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 11:05:55 AM
http://ht.ly/5576X

Video of her break down... anyone look this over yet? Can you see what shes saying?
Did you read KC's lips... I think after Cindy left the stand KC just said "she never protected me"! It's always about her, never about Caylee! KC is an evil spoiled brat! I can't stand what she is doing to her own family!

I saw this posted on FB...not sure if it correct or not (can't post link as it will link to my fb)  Klaas knows how to do it without linking it ::MonkeyTongue::

I have a friend who can read lips due to the fact that her grandma is deaf... she is telling me casey is saying "she said shes not trying to help..she does this every single time" in regards to CINDY! WOW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:05:58 AM
Casey is trying to look like she is crying...SHE IS NOT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 28, 2011, 11:06:03 AM
I hope Baez is not gonna be a real jerk to cindy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 11:06:08 AM
I don't mean this as a slam...Cindy looks awful.  I think she's on meds to keep her even keel for this.  She seems very sad and resigned- reality has sunk in.  She knows what kind of daughter she really has now.  As much as Cindy's enabled and all, I do feel sorry for her.  Praying she'll just lay it all out and free herself from the tangled web.  Time to cut all ties to Casey. JMO

MY!  The defense team sure is agreeable this morning!  What's up with that????  What did I miss from the Motion in Limine with the defense this morning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:06:38 AM
KC POUTING

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/KCPOUTINGTODAY.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:07:36 AM
you can tell Cindy misses her so much.  Casey sure didn't
you are reading my mind with all of your posts!!
I wonder if Cindy will admit there was a fight????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
HLN is showing this live right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 11:08:17 AM
I just got here but hearing Cindy say "Casey went out and purchased them" (the door knob restraints) sounds like she is trying to make KC look responsible.

I wouldnt conclude that, just a statement of fact...it doesnt appear (yet) that she is defending Casey.
I took it to set the stage that the back door had those on it, and Cindy said she had them on all the doors and they were hard for her to open.  So, someone else had to open that back door before she could have wandered outside to get in the pool on her own. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:08:28 AM
kc pissed

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kcpissed.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 11:08:31 AM
I think Casey realized that her parents are NOT going to go along with her "accident" my father helped me dispose of the body defense.   This stupid skank truly believed that they would save her after all she has done, that's my take.



Yep..just another example of Casey not getting her own way and having a tantrum.

I still beleive the secret the A's were hiding in that home was their terror an demotional battering by Casey..not anything other then her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:08:46 AM
I don't mean this as a slam...Cindy looks awful.  I think she's on meds to keep her even keel for this.  She seems very sad and resigned- reality has sunk in.  She knows what kind of daughter she really has now.  As much as Cindy's enabled and all, I do feel sorry for her.  Praying she'll just lay it all out and free herself from the tangled web.  Time to cut all ties to Casey. JMO

MY!  The defense team sure is agreeable this morning!  What's up with that????  What did I miss from the Motion in Limine with the defense this morning?

I think Cindy is on meds as well. She seems very slow and uneasy walking up to the stand.

But so far, seems she is telling the truth and has lost her attitude.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
Casey is trying to look like she is crying...SHE IS NOT

ITA!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 11:09:24 AM
Cindy is in total agony today....a very different woman than we know of.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I hope she has swallowed the truth now and continues to act this way... I like THIS Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
you can tell Cindy misses her so much.  Casey sure didn't
you are reading my mind with all of your posts!!
I wonder if Cindy will admit there was a fight????????

I so hope she tells the truth.  I like hearing Cindy testify to the details of caring for Caylee because Casey, if she testifies, won't be able to.  Sure she'll be able to lie but I think the jury will see through Casey trying to testify to the little details about caring for and daily things that go into taking care of a little one.  I don't think Casey knows much about it, so she won't be able to convincing lie about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 11:09:49 AM
You learn your child's speech

I caught that too ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:10:39 AM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:11:10 AM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)

can't hide ugly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:11:12 AM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

great shot!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 11:11:44 AM
kc pissed

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kcpissed.png)

I missed this part.  Can you please tell me what brought this on??  Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:11:49 AM
I bet they had to boost Caylee up that ladder!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 11:12:14 AM
What does Cindy keep looking down at??? Seems she is trying to read something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:12:15 AM
ladder is heavy enough for a small child to pick up!! per CA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 11:12:23 AM
Nut- ITA!  I wish Cindy had been this way from the beginning until now, she'd have had tons of support from thousands of strangers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:12:32 AM
ladder is heavy enough for a small child to pick up!! per CA
to heavy lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:12:38 AM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)

She didnt dare do that in front of the jury because she KNOWS she's having a fit for self-servant reasons & its all BS created by herself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:13:36 AM
I really hate what my mom put me through then and is putting me through now.

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/IHATEMYMOM.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 11:13:38 AM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)
That is not a hurt, remorseful, pain type of cry...that is an ugly, I'm totally friggin pizzed off cry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:13:39 AM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)


Love this shot!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:13:52 AM
Cindy sincerely loved Caylee.  I hope Casey testifies, she won't be able to convey that love.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:14:23 AM
Casey is hideous


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:14:54 AM
Nut- ITA!  I wish Cindy had been this way from the beginning until now, she'd have had tons of support from thousands of strangers.

I'm holding out from going too far because I cannot put aside how both Cindy & George conducted themselves & to what degree whey were willing to defend this monster BUT I will appreciate & respect them to the degree that they have come full circle & speak the truth for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KCJackie on May 28, 2011, 11:14:56 AM
Cindy is in total agony today....a very different woman than we know of.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I hope she has swallowed the truth now and continues to act this way... I like THIS Cindy.

Me too Nut, never thought I would say that.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 11:15:09 AM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)

buhahaha Her inside comin out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
Nut- ITA!  I wish Cindy had been this way from the beginning until now, she'd have had tons of support from thousands of strangers.
To me, seems to still being in denial, still mentions Casey's work/job. Made a point of saying Casey purchasing child proof items. I still don't trust her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 11:15:46 AM
I think she will lie about the fight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:15:49 AM
Nut- ITA!  I wish Cindy had been this way from the beginning until now, she'd have had tons of support from thousands of strangers.

I'm holding out from going too far because I cannot put aside how both Cindy & George conducted themselves & to what degree whey were willing to defend this monster BUT I will appreciate & respect them to the degree that they have come full circle & speak the truth for Caylee.

I am also waiting for the other familiar shoe to drop.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sassycat on May 28, 2011, 11:16:44 AM
http://ht.ly/5576X

Video of her break down... anyone look this over yet? Can you see what shes saying?
Did you read KC's lips... I think after Cindy left the stand KC just said "she never protected me"! It's always about her, never about Caylee! KC is an evil spoiled brat! I can't stand what she is doing to her own family!

I saw this posted on FB...not sure if it correct or not (can't post link as it will link to my fb)  Klaas knows how to do it without linking it ::MonkeyTongue::

I have a friend who can read lips due to the fact that her grandma is deaf... she is telling me casey is saying "she said shes not trying to help..she does this every single time" in regards to CINDY! WOW

Thanks Sunny.   I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning.....   why would KC say that?   What does she mean by it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 11:16:46 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else notice that they're always saying "Casey didn't report her missing for 31 days".  It drives me nuts, SHE didn't report her missing Cindy did!!!! and she wouldn't have either if CINDY hadn't gone and found her a$$ and brought her home!!!! UGH   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 11:16:50 AM
Cindy is in total agony today....a very different woman than we know of.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I hope she has swallowed the truth now and continues to act this way... I like THIS Cindy.

Me too Nut, never thought I would say that.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me either guys.... I just started a fresh pot of coffee....thinking I am not quite awake yet...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:16:51 AM
Cindy said it was a fun thing for Caylee to be naked in the pool a bit and kinda laughed.  Casey stone cold nothing.  How could you not die inside or at least give that a little smile.  Those are the things that would break my heart as a mom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:16:55 AM
I get the naked in the pool statement.. all of my kids used to try  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 11:17:15 AM
Anyone want to bet the bathing suit was what was clogging up the bathroom drain??????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 11:17:31 AM
ladder is heavy enough for a small child to pick up!! per CA

No, she said it was "Too heavy for a child", and Linda asked her if it were 'cumbersome' and Cindy said "Yes".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:18:03 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else notice that they're always saying "Casey didn't report her missing for 31 days".  It drives me nuts, SHE didn't report her missing Cindy did!!!! and she wouldn't have either if CINDY hadn't gone and found her a$$ and brought her home!!!! UGH   ::MonkeyMad::

YES, Casey never called 911 about Caylee just about herself and the protesters.  I so hope they play that video from the nursing home while Cindy is on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:18:16 AM
ladder is heavy enough for a small child to pick up!! per CA

No, she said it was "Too heavy for a child", and Linda asked her if it were 'cumbersome' and Cindy said "Yes".

yeah i no that is what i meant lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:18:17 AM
"That evening was a very special evening"   Cindy's father was taking a turn for the worse.  She wanted to document that ay because she didnt know if Caylee would see her great grandfather again & Cindy wanted to document it.

Casey and Cindy cried over the video, special moment the three shared.

O NO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 11:18:18 AM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)

She didnt dare do that in front of the jury because she KNOWS she's having a fit for self-servant reasons & its all BS created by herself.

these are great pics!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:19:14 AM
jeff spent an hr with goerge before he testified .. I hope linda did the same with cindy..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:19:58 AM
 ::MonkeyEek:: Tell about the fight Cindy................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:20:06 AM
"That evening was a very special evening"   Cindy's father was taking a turn for the worse.  She wanted to document that ay because she didnt know if Caylee would see her great grandfather again & Cindy wanted to document it.

Casey and Cindy cried over the video, special moment the three shared.

O NO!

thats what I am thinking oh no  .... hope she doesnt turn


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:20:22 AM
No mention of a fight between them about the stolen money  UGH its so frustrating!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:20:23 AM
I never knew that Casey had watched the video of Caylee at the nursing home before Caylee died.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:20:42 AM
No mention of the supposed fight with Casey or the stealing from Shirley's checkbook.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:20:46 AM
So, is Linda not going to introduce the "you are my sunshine" video.  this is 2 chances Linda has had.  or is she just laying the foundation that video was taken with gr grandpa to be introduced later - say, in a rebuttal case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:20:57 AM
Cindy didn't peek into the room.  Was this the first she admitted that? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:21:39 AM
No mention of the supposed fight with Casey or the stealing from Shirley's checkbook.

doesn't sound like the fight is coming in - at least not now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:21:40 AM
"DId you believe your daughter to have a job"   Cindy "Yes ma'am, I did."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 11:21:54 AM
Oh my goodness. I'm crying so hard now. That precious little face of Caylee's just got to me. Wow.  ::crymonkey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:23:06 AM
Cindy didn't peek into the room.  Was this the first she admitted that? 

IIRC, she said she did not look into the room long ago. The door was closed, as usual, so she assumed they were in there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: numbersgirl on May 28, 2011, 11:23:21 AM
Cindy is being asked about KC's "job" with Universal.  Cindy says she believed it because of her lanyard and emails.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:23:57 AM
Common for them to switch ID

BULL from Casey, no way, no how would a corporation do that, especially post 911


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:24:15 AM
I love the fake universal badge she made.  It goes to the extremes Casey will take a lie, kinda like being molested!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:24:34 AM
She had name tags with different names yikes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:24:39 AM
I love the fake universal badge she made.  It goes to the extremes Casey will take a lie, kinda like being molested!

I missed it what was with the fake id?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 11:24:47 AM
Cindy initially said at the beginning that she did not peak into the room.  She stood out the closed door and heard their breathing.  I recall because we had a long discussion on how you can or cannot hear people breathing from behind a closed door.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:24:50 AM
Cindy didn't peek into the room.  Was this the first she admitted that? 

IIRC, she said she did not look into the room long ago. The door was closed, as usual, so she assumed they were in there.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:25:02 AM
Common for them to switch ID

BULL from Casey, no way, no how would a corporation do that, especially post 911

Craziest thing I ever heard..Switching id's?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:25:25 AM
I love the fake universal badge she made.  It goes to the extremes Casey will take a lie, kinda like being molested!

I missed it what was with the fake id?

the universal lanyard


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 11:25:50 AM
Cindy is going to try to protect Casey.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 11:26:09 AM
Does anyone know where the trial, all of it, is recorded?  We have been recording In Session and HLN, but seems like we're missing something.  Currently I am HLN Weekend Express, any links or channels would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:26:10 AM
Cindy thought she was reprimanded and perhaps suspended? but then was able to go back at some time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:26:19 AM
Cindy was aware that she was dismissed from her job but she was led to believe they took her back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 11:26:46 AM
I hope Baez is not gonna be a real jerk to cindy

I hope he is ..............his normal self would work because the jury will see this is all a farce and they will do anything to get KC off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:26:49 AM
Cindy thought she was reprimanded and perhaps suspended? but then was able to go back at some time.

Why was she suspended?   Evidently, Cindy tried to save her again that she spoke to her bosses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
oh yes the repremmend~~ she was fired!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:27:00 AM
Cindy is going to try to protect Casey.   ::MonkeyMad::

Do you think so?  I don't think she has been up till this point.  It sounds like she is being honest, not trying to hurt Casey but not lying either or making excuses for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:27:30 AM
I hope Baez is not gonna be a real jerk to cindy

I hope he is ..............his normal self would work because the jury will see this is all a farce and they will do anything to get KC off.


He will be very combative, especially since his client thru a temper tantrum


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 11:27:44 AM
Cindy is going to try to protect Casey.   ::MonkeyMad::

Yes, she is.............and it pisses me off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 11:27:55 AM
I just asked Jim Lichtenstein on Twitter if George or Cindy were present in the courtroom and he said No.

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
@CJLOVE23 No. Court was in recess. Most were out in the hallway.


Please include link.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
Cindy just said Casey would often leave Caylee with George - HA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:28:25 AM
Cindy saw emails to Casey about work related things.  Cindy watched Caylee.  If Cindy was unavailable, George would watch Caylee often.  George kept Caylee if Cindy and Casey had a "girl day".  If both were working, Casey made arrangements for someone else to watch Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shan1628 on May 28, 2011, 11:28:44 AM
Cindy is going to try to protect Casey.   ::MonkeyMad::

Yes, she is.............and it pisses me off.

I can't believe she is still protecting that POS. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 11:29:15 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/nursinghome.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 11:29:23 AM
What does Cindy keep looking down at??? Seems she is trying to read something?


IMO, she is just agonizing and also is most likely in shame of herself for her previous ignorance of the truth (refusing to accept the truth). No way is she reading from notes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 11:29:33 AM
I love the fake universal badge she made.  It goes to the extremes Casey will take a lie, kinda like being molested!

I missed it what was with the fake id?

Maybe KC did have a job at Universal...breaking into cars and pawning whatever she pilfered from visitors and employees. If she was wearing a lamyard in and around the parking areas no one would probably think much of it....I doubt she stole ONLY from family and friends.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:30:04 AM
Zanny was friend of Casey's according to Cindy.  Zanny was one of the primary people Casey would leave Caylee with - was Cindy's impression.  Cindy did not have a complete name.  Casey had been talking about Zanny since the Spring of 2006, Cindy believes.  Casey was engaged to Mr. Grund and Casey mentioned an IT person at work who had a girlfriend named Zanny who could fill in as a sitter if Casey needed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
Cindy believed Casey had a babysitter.   On the 15th she believed it was Zanny the nanny, a friend of Casey's....Cindy's "impression"

Cindy did not have a full name.   How long had Casey been talking about a nanny?  Cindy replies, 2006 while she was engaged to Jesse Grund.   She told Cindy about the Jeff Hopkins lie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 11:31:20 AM
Zanny was friend of Casey's according to Cindy.  Zanny was one of the primary people Casey would leave Caylee with - was Cindy's impression.  Cindy did not have a complete name.  Casey had been talking about Zanny since the Spring of 2006, Cindy believes.  Casey was engaged to Mr. Grund and Casey mentioned an IT person at work who had a girlfriend named Zanny who could fill in as a sitter if Casey needed.

I think Cindy is relaying what she BELIEVED to be true at the time


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 11:31:42 AM
After just listening to Cindy, you think casey's been drugging Caylee all her life?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:31:49 AM
Reminding myself that Casey was fired in April 2006


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: numbersgirl on May 28, 2011, 11:31:55 AM
What does Cindy keep looking down at??? Seems she is trying to read something?


IMO, she is just agonizing and also is most likely in shame of herself for her previous ignorance of the truth (refusing to accept the truth). No way is she reading from notes.

I agree with you, Nut.  I just pray she sucks it up and states the truth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 11:32:01 AM
Does anyone know where the trial, all of it, is recorded?  We have been recording In Session and HLN, but seems like we're missing something.  Currently I am HLN Weekend Express, any links or channels would be appreciated.

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html

I'm watching the above link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 11:32:13 AM
In reading George's interview with the FBI, he stated that KC had a resume' where she listed her last position as a "nanny." He said he confronted her about putting down a job she had not had. I found that very interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:32:15 AM
Zanny was friend of Casey's according to Cindy.  Zanny was one of the primary people Casey would leave Caylee with - was Cindy's impression.  Cindy did not have a complete name.  Casey had been talking about Zanny since the Spring of 2006, Cindy believes.  Casey was engaged to Mr. Grund and Casey mentioned an IT person at work who had a girlfriend named Zanny who could fill in as a sitter if Casey needed.

I think Cindy is relaying what she BELIEVED to be true at the time

Correct


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:32:28 AM
OMG THEY HAD THE SCREEN UP OF CAYLEE
AND CASEY SHOWS NO EMOTION!! OH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 11:32:49 AM
After just listening to Cindy, you think casey's been drugging Caylee all her life?

yeah i was thinking that when Cindy said KC's been mentioning a nanny since 2006!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:32:54 AM
OMG THEY HAD THE SCREEN UP OF CAYLEE
AND CASEY SHOWS NO EMOTION!! OH
dern I forgot to take the caps off


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 11:32:57 AM
Cindy is going to try to protect Casey.   ::MonkeyMad::

Do you think so?  I don't think she has been up till this point.  It sounds like she is being honest, not trying to hurt Casey but not lying either or making excuses for her.

We'll see what happens when she is confronted with the truth about Casey and her job, friends and babysitter.  I am getting the impression that she still believes Casey.  She said she gave cops a book with phone numbers for Zanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
Cindy is going to try to protect Casey.   ::MonkeyMad::

Yes, she is.............and it pisses me off.

I think so too.......  not right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
Cindy never saw a picture of her, Cindy never had an observation of this "Zanny."

Cindy was told that Zanny lived in several locations


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:33:41 AM
After just listening to Cindy, you think casey's been drugging Caylee all her life?

Def. makes me think, where was Caylee and that this wasn't some story she made up on the fly after an accidental drowning but more of an ongoing convenient lie that Casey used whenever she needed an easy explanation for not having her own daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:33:52 AM
Coworker with girlfriend Zanny is Jeff Hoskins, Hawkins or Hopkins. 

Cindy just asked them to take the picture of Caylee down as it is upsetting her too much.

Lauren Gibbs was one of Casey's best friends.  Cindy knows and can describe Lauren. She knew where Lauren lived.

Cindy never met Zanny, never saw a picture, couldn't describe Zanny.  Cindy said Zanny lived at different places.  First heard of her, she was supposed to be living at one of the student living quarters close to UCF, same complex as Jeffrey lived.  Casey told Cindy Zanny moved around, but Cindy never picked up Caylee from Zanny's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
stupid people.. I checked out my dogs kennel better than this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:34:02 AM
Reminding myself that Casey was fired in April 2006


I thought she was fired for not showing up for work = job abandonment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 11:34:05 AM
OMG THEY HAD THE SCREEN UP OF CAYLEE
AND CASEY SHOWS NO EMOTION!! OH
dern I forgot to take the caps off
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/nursinghome.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Red on May 28, 2011, 11:34:44 AM
Common for them to switch ID

BULL from Casey, no way, no how would a corporation do that, especially post 911

Craziest thing I ever heard..Switching id's?

That is a business compliance #1 Firable offense, I work every day with compliance issues ... no way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:35:50 AM
Casey would be dressed up sometimes when coming to Cindy's office.  Casey always had extra clothes with her.  Most of the time she was dressed as if she were ready to go to work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:35:56 AM
Common for them to switch ID

BULL from Casey, no way, no how would a corporation do that, especially post 911

Craziest thing I ever heard..Switching id's?

That is a business compliance #1 Firable offense, I work every day with compliance issues ... no way.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 11:36:28 AM
She is the same ole Cindy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 11:36:40 AM
Anyone want to bet the bathing suit was what was clogging up the bathroom drain??????

You may have nailed it ISpy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 11:36:44 AM
Casey probably did purchase (with stolen money or Cindy's money, more than likely) the safety door knob covers for the doors.  Keep in mind, in the beginning Casey needed to look like she loved Caylee too.  Caylee was her meal ticket and brought Casey attention- "See what a good single mom I am.  See how much I love my child.".  I'm sure Cindy & Casey did have Girl Days.  Cindy was trying to make this thing work.  IMO, she thought she could "teach" Casey to become a good mom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:37:07 AM
Cindy has been looking for Zanny from July, 2008, until about six weeks ago. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
Casey would be dressed up sometimes when coming to Cindy's office.  Casey always had extra clothes with her.  Most of the time she was dressed as if she were ready to go to work.

Extra clothes to cover for her lies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:37:45 AM
Cindy looked for "this Zanny"   Cindy stopped looking about 6 weeks ago

That was a signal to Casey...not going to fry you but Im not defending you any longer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:37:47 AM
Cindy was looking for zanny until 6 weeks ago. Same time the defense told the A's Caylee had drowned


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:37:48 AM
Cindy admits Cindy never found Zanny and has looked for her until 6 weeks ago.
I guess when she was informed of Bozo's strategy,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:38:05 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

I don't think Cindy lied.  I don't think those questions were asked of Cindy.  Maybe Linda doesn't want to disclose it....or, more likely, Linda doesn't want to disclose is right now.

Linda is trying to lay the "foundation" right now, IMO, and will "fill-in" the foundation as time goes on.  This will not be the only time Cindy is on the stand.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 11:38:09 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

Did Shirley Plesea take the stand yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:38:14 AM
Anyone want to bet the bathing suit was what was clogging up the bathroom drain??????

You may have nailed it ISpy.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 11:38:26 AM
WOW! She was looking for Zanny from the time they found the car until.....about 6 WEEKS AGO.  Did you see inmate's face?  That's when their attorney told them that she was going to say George sexually molested her.  That did not get past horseface.  Awesome dig.  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:38:28 AM
Cindy has been looking for Zanny from July, 2008, until about six weeks ago. 

Isn't that when they were told the defense was gonna blame George and lee for molesting her???? Maybe Cindy acknowledged at that point what she had been denying about Casey and what she did to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sassycat on May 28, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
Cindy was still looking for Zanny up to about 6 weeks ago?     ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I don't believe Cindy just said that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 11:39:08 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.
Cindy can't, or rather shouldn't answer questions that aren't asked. I suspect that she will be called to the stand many, many times throughout the trial, so I expect it to come up later...then again I am ofetn wrong, ask my ex...lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:39:15 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

I don't think Cindy lied.  I don't think those questions were asked of Cindy.  Maybe Linda doesn't want to disclose it....or, more likely, Linda doesn't want to disclose is right now.

Linda is trying to lay the "foundation" right now, IMO, and will "fill-in" the foundation as time goes on.  This will not be the only time Cindy is on the stand.


::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cw618 on May 28, 2011, 11:39:16 AM
zanny since spring 2006, hmmmm
maybe was a real person/nickname and deceased and KC knew that person
couldnt be found


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 11:39:21 AM
Zanny is with Casey's soul and conscience


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sassycat on May 28, 2011, 11:39:27 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

Did Shirley Plesea take the stand yet?

No.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:39:28 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

Did Shirley Plesea take the stand yet?

No.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:39:38 AM
Cindy was still looking for Zanny up to about 6 weeks ago?     ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I don't believe Cindy just said that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think that was her way of saying to Casey, I'm not in denial any more.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:39:55 AM
Cindy was still looking for Zanny up to about 6 weeks ago?     ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I don't believe Cindy just said that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

My previous post FWIW is my take on that statement^^^


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 11:40:33 AM
Cindy was still looking for Zanny up to about 6 weeks ago?     ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I don't believe Cindy just said that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

She using the same search techniques that she used searching for Caylee.  NONE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 11:40:36 AM
Cindy admits Cindy never found Zanny and has looked for her until 6 weeks ago.
I guess when she was informed of Bozo's strategy,
Bet that's when the A's were informed of the drowning...reality had to set in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 11:40:41 AM
Cindy admits Cindy never found Zanny and has looked for her until 6 weeks ago.
I guess when she was informed of Bozo's strategy,
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:41:11 AM
ok lets put our heads together .. we need a strategy.

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/OHHELLWERESCREWEDWHATCANWEDONOWLETSTHINK.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sassycat on May 28, 2011, 11:41:15 AM
Cindy was still looking for Zanny up to about 6 weeks ago?     ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I don't believe Cindy just said that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think that was her way of saying to Casey, I'm not in denial any more.

 ::MonkeyEek::   Ohhhh.   wow, just wow!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:41:25 AM
This whole family cannot EVER just say yes or no........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
The defense is awfully quiet today


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:41:41 AM
Cindy admits Cindy never found Zanny and has looked for her until 6 weeks ago.
I guess when she was informed of Bozo's strategy,
Bet that's when the A's were informed of the drowning...reality had to set in.

I think it set in exactly what Casey was capable of when they heard her defense. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:43:35 AM
The lies unraveling is mind blowing...so elaborate & piled on over nonexistent people!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:43:36 AM
Does Cindy still believe this? She is talking like this is the truth. Wow how elaborate KC was


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 11:43:40 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

I don't think Cindy lied.  I don't think those questions were asked of Cindy.  Maybe Linda doesn't want to disclose it....or, more likely, Linda doesn't want to disclose is right now.

Linda is trying to lay the "foundation" right now, IMO, and will "fill-in" the foundation as time goes on.  This will not be the only time Cindy is on the stand.



Except Cindy said they had a very pleasant but emotional evening--the emotion was caused by seeing  what they thought might be the last pics of Mr. Pleasea.  That is not a truthful description of the evening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 11:43:45 AM
Cindy shouldn't say "Yes ma'am" to a woman much younger than she is--that makes her appear as tho she really wants Linda to believe what she says, in my view.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 11:43:55 AM
http://ht.ly/5576X

Video of her break down... anyone look this over yet? Can you see what shes saying?
Did you read KC's lips... I think after Cindy left the stand KC just said "she never protected me"! It's always about her, never about Caylee! KC is an evil spoiled brat! I can't stand what she is doing to her own family!

I saw this posted on FB...not sure if it correct or not (can't post link as it will link to my fb)  Klaas knows how to do it without linking it ::MonkeyTongue::

I have a friend who can read lips due to the fact that her grandma is deaf... she is telling me casey is saying "she said shes not trying to help..she does this every single time" in regards to CINDY! WOW

Thanks Sunny.   I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning.....   why would KC say that?   What does she mean by it?

hi Sassy.....look at the video if you haven't......sorry I was away from the computer....KC had a hissy fit during the break....I think, if this is what was said, KC was pissed because Cindy told the truth


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 11:43:55 AM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sassycat on May 28, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
Cindy looked for "this Zanny"   Cindy stopped looking about 6 weeks ago

That was a signal to Casey...not going to fry you but Im not defending you any longer.

Maybe that's the reason for KC's meltdown during break.   KC realizes the gig is over. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:44:12 AM
trying  to cry for the jury!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/BOOHOOOOOOOOOO.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:44:36 AM
I cant fathom how Cindy has memorized all of the little details and lies


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 11:44:38 AM
Cindy shouldn't say "Yes ma'am" to a woman much younger than she is--that makes her appear as tho she really wants Linda to believe what she says, in my view.

In others words: it makes her tales sound fishy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 11:44:49 AM
I have a hinky they'll end the questioning today with Cindy's 3rd and last 911 call on July 15th. That seems to be the time frame they've been working on all week....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 11:45:36 AM
I think LDB/JA are going to introduce the argument with the confrontation by Shirley Pleasea to Cindy about the stolen money, followed by, Lee and the neighbor witness leading, and picking up Cindy to question under recall.  That way she doesn't directly implicate Casey as to motive. That's my best guess.  "out of the mouth of two or three witnesses, let a thing be established.".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
Cindy shouldn't say "Yes ma'am" to a woman much younger than she is--that makes her appear as tho she really wants Linda to believe what she says, in my view.

I think it is just showing respect for Linda's position.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sassycat on May 28, 2011, 11:45:42 AM
hi Sassy.....look at the video if you haven't......sorry I was away from the computer....KC had a hissy fit during the break....I think, if this is what was said, KC was pissed because Cindy told the truth

Thanks Sunny.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: numbersgirl on May 28, 2011, 11:45:56 AM
IMO the premise of these answers is coming from "what did you believe at the time" not what do you know now.  Does anyone else see it that way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 11:46:30 AM
The lies unraveling is mind blowing...so elaborate & piled on over nonexistent people!

I was thinking the SAME thing..........how elaborate all these lies had become. It was like KC weaved a web of deceit which seemed unbreakable to her. KC was so narcissistic she thought they believed all these lies and being as stupid as they are they really did. I would not have believed a word out of that girl's mouth after all the lies she told in the past.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 11:46:32 AM
Do you think today will end with the 911 call.....there's something wrong....it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car.???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cw618 on May 28, 2011, 11:46:33 AM
Does Cindy still believe this? She is talking like this is the truth. Wow how elaborate KC was

what would be KC reson to make up zanny in spring 2006


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 11:46:48 AM
Does Cindy still believe this? She is talking like this is the truth. Wow how elaborate KC was

I think its the same old cover-up for Casey mode.  I had a sister who was msnic-depressive.  I know they call it bi-polar now, but manic depressive better describes it. The rule in the house was don't upset Joan.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:47:00 AM
I cant fathom how Cindy has memorized all of the little details and lies

If it was me, I don't think I'd forget the last days of my gdtr's life and the horrific time my dtr put me through that last month....just sayin'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:47:00 AM
Has Juliette Lewis (other than the actress) ever been located by the Anthony's. I think Linda should ask that question.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:47:07 AM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

Cindy stated that there was always a reason Caylee was never with Casey when they spoke...Im waiting to hear "It was all a lie," not sure.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:47:22 AM
I think LDB/JA are going to introduce the argument with the confrontation by Shirley Pleasea to Cindy about the stolen money, followed by, Lee and the neighbor witness leading, and picking up Cindy to question under recall.  That way she doesn't directly implicate Casey as to motive. That's my best guess.  "out of the mouth of two or three witnesses, let a thing be established.".
I can see that happening..Good point!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:47:23 AM
Has Juliette Lewis (other than the actress) ever been located by the Anthony's. I think Linda should ask that question.

Doesnt exist


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 11:47:41 AM
I cant fathom how Cindy has memorized all of the little details and lies
She's been living it all over and over again for almost 3yrs...hindsight


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:48:13 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image31-2.png)

The Defense listening to Cindy's testimony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: numbersgirl on May 28, 2011, 11:48:21 AM
Do you think today will end with the 911 call.....there's something wrong....it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car.???

That would be a very dramatic way to end the week.  Go Prosecution!   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:48:32 AM
Does Cindy still believe this? She is talking like this is the truth. Wow how elaborate KC was

I think its the same old cover-up for Casey mode.  I had a sister who was msnic-depressive.  I know they call it bi-polar now, but manic depressive better describes it. The rule in the house was don't upset Joan.

Yes my brother was like that too. It was always about him and walking on eggs shells as to what we can say


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 11:48:34 AM
Cindy shouldn't say "Yes ma'am" to a woman much younger than she is--that makes her appear as tho she really wants Linda to believe what she says, in my view.

I think it is just showing respect for Linda's position.


I don't know about that part of the south, but in this part of the south this would certainly be true!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:48:35 AM
Cindy is just repeating what Casey was relating to her.
I don't think she's believing this crap..just regurgitating what casey was telling her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:49:02 AM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image31-2.png)

The Defense listening to Cindy's testimony
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 11:49:13 AM
Cindy shouldn't say "Yes ma'am" to a woman much younger than she is--that makes her appear as tho she really wants Linda to believe what she says, in my view.

I think it is just showing respect for Linda's position.

I would do the same thing. I always do that to anyone in a position of authority. If I get stopped by LE even  in a roadblock I always say yes sir to the officer regardless of their age. People of her/my generation were taught to do that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:49:31 AM
Does Cindy still believe this? She is talking like this is the truth. Wow how elaborate KC was

what would be KC reson to make up zanny in spring 2006


I have no idea, someone had to watch Caylee when she was really working


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 11:49:31 AM
Cindy might just help Casey get off.  That way she can get rid of George.  Remember she didn't divorce him because it would have cost her money.  She would have had to support him.  Just a thought.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:49:32 AM
Does Cindy still believe this? She is talking like this is the truth. Wow how elaborate KC was

what would be KC reson to make up zanny in spring 2006


She was engaged to Jesse, his parents were helping care for Caylee.  It got to the point that Casey was taking extreme advantage of their kindness.   They approached Casey that she needed to care for Caylee more and/or get assistance...thus the "nanny" appeared but didnt exist


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
Cindy is just repeating what Casey was relating to her.
I don't think she's believing this crap..just regurgitating what casey was telling her.

Yes but she is so in to detail, like it really happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 11:50:27 AM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 11:51:04 AM
I think it's kinda funny, actually, that Cindy is telling it like she believed it.  Much more effective than just getting up there and saying she's a liar.  That fact has been established six million five thousand times.  This way, Cindy appears more sympathetic (though very gullible or stupid).  It would just look like revenge if she came out and started sticking it to horseface, even though I doubt anyone would blame her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:51:25 AM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....

Soon I hope!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:51:27 AM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....

its frustrating because we sit here and know, the jury only has a clue thus far


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:51:39 AM
guys i still cant believe that cindy said that up until 6 weeks ago she believed about Zanny.  I think Casey would have been more sympathetic to a jury with her parents support rather than having alienating them and going with the whole I was molested thing.  I really think Cindy finally got it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:51:39 AM
Bozo is still logged into FB although his status indicates that he's idle.
No way Bozo's getting to Cindy today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:51:58 AM
I think it's kinda funny, actually, that Cindy is telling it like she believed it.  Much more effective than just getting up there and saying she's a liar.  That fact has been established six million five thousand times.  This way, Cindy appears more sympathetic (though very gullible or stupid).  It would just look like revenge if she came out and started sticking it to horseface, even though I doubt anyone would blame her.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Terri on May 28, 2011, 11:52:28 AM
To me, it looks as if Cindy is dying inside...this is killing her.  She knows KC said Caylee died early on, she now knows everything she is telling is a lie and is letting KC take responsibility for the lies.  She is showing, she is not lying for KC.

What gets me is that Cindy is in so much pain, yet KC has no emotion. I would be dying seeing the pain I have put on all these people.   I hope Cindy sees this.

Terri
Ohio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 11:53:07 AM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....


waiting with for that here Sunny.... by now if I were Cindy I would have said....you little bitch , I wanna talk to my Caylee...put her on the effing phone NOW!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Terri on May 28, 2011, 11:53:18 AM
I think it's kinda funny, actually, that Cindy is telling it like she believed it.  Much more effective than just getting up there and saying she's a liar.  That fact has been established six million five thousand times.  This way, Cindy appears more sympathetic (though very gullible or stupid).  It would just look like revenge if she came out and started sticking it to horseface, even though I doubt anyone would blame her.
::rhino::

totally and completey agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:53:27 AM
To me, it looks as if Cindy is dying inside...this is killing her.  She knows KC said Caylee died early on, she now knows everything she is telling is a lie and is letting KC take responsibility for the lies.  She is showing, she is not lying for KC.

What gets me is that Cindy is in so much pain, yet KC has no emotion. I would be dying seeing the pain I have put on all these people.   I hope Cindy sees this.

Terri
Ohio
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:53:44 AM
Mind you all of this matches what Casey reportedly told Cindy & Cindy repeated to detectives so its going to be hard to cross


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:54:03 AM
Can someone please get a screenshot of george?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: 3babiesmommy on May 28, 2011, 11:54:05 AM
As a nurse Cindy should know that a hospital or dr's office can check insurance verification if the patient does not have their insurance card.  All they need is the insurance companies name and social security number.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 11:54:20 AM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

Did Shirley Plesea take the stand yet?

No


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 11:54:34 AM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....


waiting with for that here Sunny.... by now if I were Cindy I would have said....you little bitch , I wanna talk to my Caylee...put her on the effing phone NOW!!!!


jeez...waiting with you....long week...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:54:42 AM
"That's the explanation" and Cindy shakes her head no to a degree


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 11:55:14 AM
I've been wondering if maybe Casey was considering using the gas to do something with deceased-Caylee - all this gas can stuff. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 11:55:23 AM
Cindy is actually helping the defense.  She is repeating, in detail, what she believed (at that time) because Casey told her...demonstrating the extent of Caseys' lies to Cindy to conceal that Caylee was gone...the everchanging litany of excuses of why Cindy couldn't physically see Caylee.  The state has spent this past week buliding their case, detailing from every person Casey associated with that she spun numerous elaborate lies to hide Caylee's whereabouts. Cindy will not be responsible for Casey going down, Casey's own words will.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 11:55:31 AM
Does Cindy still believe this? She is talking like this is the truth. Wow how elaborate KC was

what would be KC reson to make up zanny in spring 2006


I have no idea, someone had to watch Caylee when she was really working

IIRC, KC never went back to work after Caylee was born.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 11:55:39 AM
Well I thought George would be the nail in the coffin..But it appears it would be Cindy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Wyks on May 28, 2011, 11:56:07 AM

Except Cindy said they had a very pleasant but emotional evening--the emotion was caused by seeing  what they thought might be the last pics of Mr. Pleasea.  That is not a truthful description of the evening.

It's possible that the evening started out that way.  It could have progressed into the major fight that we've heard about.  Cindy seems to be very carefully not mentioning any of that.  But I betcha on cross, duhfence might ask about what happened after their 'pleasant but emotional' experience watching the video from earlier in the day. 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:56:07 AM
Good Lord, the lies are just incredible!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 11:56:21 AM
Can someone please get a screenshot of george?
He looks really bad this morning,doesn't he?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
Can someone please get a screenshot of george?

I haven't seen him on camera yet today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: WesleyBear on May 28, 2011, 11:57:03 AM
I cannot believe how elaborate Casey's lies were!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:57:03 AM
Oooooo  Cindy stating that she asked Casey why she was doing all this & not a family member, felt her responsibility was to bring Caylee home.  Casey lied further, Zanny's family ill etc., friend hurt   (quick summation)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 11:57:07 AM
Can someone please show George?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:57:18 AM
I cannot believe how elaborate Casey's lies were!!

Way


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 11:57:20 AM
As a nurse Cindy should know that a hospital or dr's office can check insurance verification if the patient does not have their insurance card.  All they need is the insurance companies name and social security number.


I believe at this point they knew Casey was full of chit...but they were in denial....we had a family member who did this sort of thing and we knew , but had not proof and kind of were co-dependant on those lies....finally he stole from a family member and the family member called the police as an act of "tough love"...we are not going to take it anymore....I relate this to George and calling the cops about the gas cans...he was trying to take a stand...let her know they were fed up...jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:57:24 AM
It seems to me that the proscution is laying the foundation that KC lied about everything and all the time and to everyone.

NOT just when Caylee was dead.

But that is the way KC lived her life.

That's why, IMO, Linda is putting in all these lies....and what KC put mom through during those 31 days and the excused KC used during those 31 days.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 11:57:33 AM
So Zanny had a mother, a brother, a sister, a daughter, and a roommate Raquel. And NONE of these people were ever found. And the A's have been looking for her until about 6 weeks ago??? Sheesh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:57:35 AM
What a tangled web.
Casey had an answer for everything.
All sounds like BS to me, but I'm not as naive as Cindy, I guess.

10 min. stretch break.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 11:58:02 AM
The defense isn't attempting to object


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 11:58:30 AM
Wonder how she plans on explaining her face book post when Caylee was missing.  She is trying way to hard to portray Casey as a good mom.

JMO   ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 11:58:31 AM
Cindy shouldn't say "Yes ma'am" to a woman much younger than she is--that makes her appear as tho she really wants Linda to believe what she says, in my view.

I think it is just showing respect for Linda's position.


I don't know about that part of the south, but in this part of the south this would certainly be true!

I am been deposed in a couple of lawsuits and in fact testified in court.  I was told to call the attorneys "Sir."  I was much older than anyone else there, except maybe the judge.  It's a Southern thing, I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 11:58:54 AM
Bozo is still logged into FB although his status indicates that he's idle.
No way Bozo's getting to Cindy today.

nope......and I hope not...let KC stew til Monday!!  My DH just asked if KC would agree to see her Mom NOW hoping to sway her testimony....good question I said


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:59:08 AM
Waiting to see if Casey throws another tantrum

Casey is conferring with her attorneys...trying to bolster her lies, she seems angry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 11:59:31 AM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....

Hopefully after Cindy has regurgitated all of them--but that will take a week. It's all such a load of bunk.  How could she not see it???  Or was it just easier for Cindy to believe, or pretend to herself that she believed it all those years?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 11:59:53 AM
I think Cindy just got caught telling the truth about who Caylee slept with. She said she used to cuddle with Caylee at night, then suddenly remembered that she had said Caylee mostly slept with Casey, and then changed it to "with Casey". GMAB. She's still trying to keep the mother of the year fantasy going.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:00:18 PM
was the jury in the room when the recess started... did u see her anger  and simms and bozo had to talk to her?/ she is so pissed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:00:58 PM
I think KC slept in her clothes last night.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc56.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:01:04 PM
Bozo is still logged into FB although his status indicates that he's idle.
No way Bozo's getting to Cindy today.

nope......and I hope not...let KC stew til Monday!!  My DH just asked if KC would agree to see her Mom NOW hoping to sway her testimony....good question I said

I bet Casey is too angry with Cindy at this point to see her, even if Baez agreed to a visit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
Bozo is still logged into FB although his status indicates that he's idle.
No way Bozo's getting to Cindy today.

I agree, it'll be monday for bozo...
Let the jury think about Linda questioning Cindy ALL weekend.
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:01:15 PM
I've been wondering if maybe Casey was considering using the gas to do something with deceased-Caylee - all this gas can stuff. 
Nah...I remember KC making a statement after Caylee's memorial and she was angry at the family for having cremated her...my thought at the time was, given Casey's penchant for stealing gas, if she wanted to cremate Caylee, she could have taken care of it herself....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 12:01:20 PM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....

Hopefully after Cindy has regurgitated all of them--but that will take a week. It's all such a load of bunk.  How could she not see it???  Or was it just easier for Cindy to believe, or pretend to herself that she believed it all those years?


DENIAL  is a strange animal....you know, but your heart won't let you know....I have lived it..not to this extent, but have lived it...
It is so good on the soul to break out of that denial too! I am hoping against hope that George and Cindy will do the same...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:01:30 PM
Anyone have a shot of George sitting in the courtroom? I am asking because I believe I recognized a spectator.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 12:01:44 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image31-2.png)

The Defense listening to Cindy's testimony

I wonder if they feel like useful idiots yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Magic Eyes on May 28, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
Oh no, I have been typing since the trial started.  I hit something and I lost the whole thing.  Don't know what happened and I can't seem to find it anywhere.  It was just in the reply box. I am so sad.

Tony was up first, Mr George questioned him about the night of July 16, 2008,  They talked about a Blockbuster receipt, it was dated July 16th, at 7pm, 2008.  Tony talked about Amy coming to the door and then Cindy.  Cindy was mad and told Casey she was going home, Casey said no, she was coming back.  They left.  Later a deputy came to Tony's and took Casey's cell phone.  He came back an hour later and searched Tony's apt.  Only Nate and Tony were home.  Lee came around midnight and took a bag of Casey's clothes and her laptop.  Lee seemed very upset.  Tony said he started getting text messages from Casey the next morning.  She basically said she was the worse mother in the world for leaving Caylee with a psycho nanny.  Casey said if they never find Caylee, guess who is going to spend eternity in jail.  Casey, told Tony she loved him.  Tony said why are you texting, not calling.  Later Tony called her and questioned her.  The questions were going no where and he hung up.  Then Baez asked Tony if everything seemed bizarre and unreal and did Casey talk as if Caylee was still alive?  He asked more questions but they were stupid and sustained.  Tony seemed upset just reliving it.  Tony was done.

Cindy was up next, Linda is questioning her, she identified photos of the house and the backyard.  Linda marked the playhouse and Cindy started crying, she never really stopped.  Casey sat stone faced for most of it and never looked at Casey.  Cindy said she never suspected Casey was pregnant, Casey came to her work and told her in the car.  They told George then everyone, they made a Winnie the Pooh nursery.  Cindy cried at pictures of the nursery.  They then talked about the door out to the backyard, the glass door, Cindy is crying, 15 min recess.  Sorry if I forgot anything, I had to recall.  Recess for 15min.

Casey was crying during recess to Ms Simms, couldn't tell if it was real or not.

Back from recess, talking about the sliding glass doors again, one set goes out of the master bedroom, the other goes through the living room.  The living room door is the one mostly used.  They baby-proofed the house.  Caylee usually slept with Casey, only napped in her room occasionally.  Caylee was very verbal.  Could tell you a story.  They could mostly understand what she was saying.  Cindy never went 24 hours without seeing Caylee prior to June 2008.  Cindy took her birthday week off.  She took off Sat, Sunday and the entire week, she had Caylee everyday.  She took Caylee to Mt. Dora to see her father on Father's day.  Casey and lee had plans that day and George went to work on Father's day, 3-11 shift.  Went to Mt. Dora mid-morning till 2:30, 50 minute drive to and from.  Cindy says she took pictures and video on Father's Day at Mt. Dora, the nursing home.  Identifies a pic of that day, says that's our Caylee.  Published the pic to the jury.  Caylee in blue dress, smiling with coloring book.  Casey is crying now.  Cindy and Caylee left the nursing home and went to her mother's home had lunch and left back to Hopespring Dr.  Got home and Caylee wanted to go swimming.  Cindy wanted her to eat something, she didn't eat much at Mt. Dora.  Then they went out swimming.  Talking about the ladder, part of it is bolted to the pool, part is detachable.  When Caylee was a toddler, they started removing the ladder for safety.  They laid it on it's side when not in use.  The ladder is too heavy for a small child to pick up.  They stayed in the pool an hour or more, at least an hour.  Caylee had on a life-jacket.  While they were in the pool, Casey came home, did not get in the pool.  Cindy and Caylee got out of the pool.  Casey came out with a towel and got Caylee.  Cindy took off her life-jacket and swimsuit in the pool.  Cindy removed the ladder and went inside of the house.  Cindy recalls that evening like it was yesterday.  Cindy wanted to document that day because her father was taking a turn for the worse.  She told Casey about the videos and showed Casey the videos, Cindy and Casey cried while watching the videos.  Casey is crying in the courtroom.  Casey saved the pictures and the video on the computer.  They went to bed and George came home later after they were in bed.  Cindy had an early day the next day.  She left home the next day, June 16th at 7:30 am.  Cindy said she never saw Caylee again, Cindy is crying.  She thought Caylee was home that morning when she left for work.  She believed that her daughter had a job, an even coordinator at Universal Studios.  She thought she planned events for Mardi Gras or celebrities, worked behind the scenes, her hours were always different.  Cindy believed this because Casey told her this.  She saw other evidence of her working, like her lanyard and texts and emails from her work to her.  Cindy had seen Casey working at Universal before, that was before Caylee was born.  She believed that after Caylee was born, Casey went back to work 3 months later.  She was fired because she had 3 marks against her but she thought she got her job back.  The emails she saw were from Hard Rock Cafe.  Casey printed and showed Cindy this email.  Cindy watched Caylee when Casey went to work at night.  Cindy was usually the babysitter, if she was not home, George was the babysitter.  Cindy and Casey went out together and left Caylee with George!!!!!!  Cindy believed in June of 2008, that Casey had a babysitter named Zanny, Casey referred to her as the nanny.  Cindy did not have a full name of this nanny.  Casey had been talking about the nanny since 2006.  Zanny was the nanny of an IT person and he offered her to Casey as a nanny.  Lauren Gibs had been the primary sitter.  The co-worker referred to is Jeff Hopkins.  Zanny the nanny had been his sitter.  Cindy wants the picture of Caylee taken down, so she doesn't cry, the judge takes it down.  Cindy knew Lauren Gibbs personally and knew where she lived.  Cindy never met Zanny, she can't describe her.  In 2006, 2007, 2008, Zanny lived in diff places.  Casey told Cindy of all these places.  Zanny moved around quite frequently.  Cindy never drove Caylee to the nanny or picked her up from there.  Cindy never asked Casey to contribute money to the home, she wanted her to clean house and chores.  Casey pitched in without asking.  Casey didn't have to supply any money for living there.  Casey would get dressed and appeared to go to work, Casey always had extra clothes with her.  She was mostly dressed for work.  Cindy never found Zanny the nanny, from the 15th of July till 6 weeks ago!!!!!!!!! OMG, Cindy said she was still looking for the nanny 6 weeks ago!!!!!!!!!!  Cindy talked to Casey on June 16th, left messages mostly but may of had a brief conversation around 4ish, lasted a few seconds.  Casey said she was gonna spend the night at Zanny's but she couldn't drop of Caylee with Cindy cuz Cindy had a meeting.  So was going to take Caylee to Zanny's and they were gonna spend the night.  George had to work, Monday June 16th, 3 to 11.  It made sense for her to go to Zanny and spend the night of June 16th, 2008.  She thought Caylee would come home with Casey on Tuesday, June 17th.  Casey made up excuses about meetings why she couldn't come home on Tuesday.  Caylee was gonna stay at Zanny's again on Tues night.  Cindy thought they would come home on Wed but Casey, said the negotiations for Hard Rock were ongoing and they were gonna head to Tampa.  Casey would take the Nanny with her and take her to Busch Gardens in Tampa.  Also going was Juliette Lewis a co-worker and her daughter Annabelle.  Cindy thought they were coming home Sat, June 21, 2008, Cindy talked to Casey everday while she was gone, once during the day and in the evenings.  Caylee never talked to her on the phone, Cindy asked but there was always a reason she couldn't talk to Caylee.  ALWAYS a reason why she couldn't talk to Caylee.  On Sat, Casey told her they were gonna go back to the park and enjoy the stay, on Sunday, June 22, 2008.  She thought they would next come home on Monday, June 23, 2008.  That didn't happen, Cindy waited all day for her to come home.  By 4pm Cindy was concerned and talked to her co-workers about it.  Casey called and said she was in a car accident, don't panic.  Casey said that she witnessed Zanny get in a car accident and had been at the hospital all day with Zanny.  Casey and Caylee were just fine.  She didn't let her talk to Cindy, always a reason.  The toddlers were not around the emergency room so Cindy couldn't talk to her.  On June 24, 2008, there was an incident with the shed, Cindy knew that George called the sheriff dept.  Cindy knew in the morning about the shed break-in, she told Casey about it, when they were talking about Zanny in the hospital.  Cindy found out that George had seen Casey in the house on June 24, 2008.  After learning that Casey was at the house and not in the hospital in Tampa, Cindy called Casey and Casey told her that she drove home because she needed Zanny's insurance information and stopped home to get some things.  Asked her why she didn't bring Caylee home an Cindy could take off work to watch her.  Casey told Cindy that she had given George the gas cans, Casey told her that she took them to Tampa with her cuz her gas gauge was broken.  She told Cindy this on June 24th but she knew Casey hadn't been home since June 16th but Cindy says she didn't think of this.  She asked Casey why she was doing this and not someone from Zanny's family.  She wanted Caylee home.  Casey told her that Zanny's mother was very ill and Zanny's family was taking care of her.  Casey was the only one that could help Zanny.  She wanted Caylee close to her so she wasn't going to bring her home.  Cindy started missing Caylee June 16, 2008.  Cindy started sleeping with Caylee's teddy bear, named Teddy.  She needed something to cuddle with.  Caylee is remaining stone faced through all of this.

10 minute break, I am going to hit post before this one disappears too, Lil.  Sorry for anything I missed from starting over.  I think I got most of the points.  Everything we really knew before but now the jury knows it too.

I think the most shocking thing of the day is that CINDY SAID SHE WAS STILL LOOKING FOR ZANNY THE NANNY SIX WEEKS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 12:02:56 PM
The defense isn't attempting to object

I noticed that.  Very very curious.  They didn't object to Tony this morning either. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Mtnmom on May 28, 2011, 12:03:10 PM
Anyone have a shot of George sitting in the courtroom? I am asking because I believe I recognized a spectator.

Was it the tow yard guy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:03:46 PM
I hope that Ms. Drane-Burdick is leading up to Cindy admitting that she now knows all of this crap was "Mistruths."   So far, Cindy is acting as if she still believe it, although she is no longer looking for Zanny.

I can't put Cindy's behaviour out of my mind--Cindy with a hammer, Cindy mixing it up with the protestors, Cindy's behaviour with Mr. Morgan and insulting Zenaida Gonzalez.  A leopard doesn't change it's spots.  What truth she may tell is, IMO, pure self-protection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:03:49 PM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....


waiting with for that here Sunny.... by now if I were Cindy I would have said....you little bitch , I wanna talk to my Caylee...put her on the effing phone NOW!!!!

me too!!! Cindy KNEW she wasn't working and this was all a lie....she could have saved Caylee if she wouldn't have been so damned concerned about upsetting KC


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:03:58 PM
WOW magic you do a great job!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:04:07 PM
Wonder how she plans on explaining her face book post when Caylee was missing.  She is trying way to hard to portray Casey as a good mom.

JMO   ::MonkeyShovel::
I think she is saying that in her rpesence Casey appeared to be a good mother. I really don't believe G & C had any idea how far KC could really take things or that she was capable of murder...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 12:04:10 PM
Wonder how she plans on explaining her face book post when Caylee was missing.  She is trying way to hard to portray Casey as a good mom.

JMO   ::MonkeyShovel::

I think at this point, she's trying to portray that she thought things were a lot more safe than they actually were.  While she was worried about Caylee, and while Casey was a hot mess, she didn't seem to be a murderous hot mess - just the usual constant lies to avoid.  IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:04:39 PM
Bozo is still logged into FB although his status indicates that he's idle.
No way Bozo's getting to Cindy today.

nope......and I hope not...let KC stew til Monday!!  My DH just asked if KC would agree to see her Mom NOW hoping to sway her testimony....good question I said

I bet Casey is too angry with Cindy at this point to see her, even if Baez agreed to a visit.

I am not sure at this point since the trial has started and Cindy is a witness they would allow a visit like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 12:04:39 PM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Cindy no longer try to make eye contact with Casey. Perhaps Casey has finally alienated the women who's stood by her side throughout
3 minutes ago

MagpieFromHinky Pamela
“@OrlandoPumpkin: @MagpieFromHinky Do jurors seem annoyed or put off with Baez?” No. But they don't "know" him like we do. Ha
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
http://twitter.com/#!/MagpieFromHinky (http://twitter.com/#!/MagpieFromHinky)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:04:52 PM
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela   Needs link, please.  MB
Cindy no longer try to make eye contact with Casey. Perhaps Casey has finally alienated the women who's stood by her side throughout
4 minutes ago »
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela
“@OrlandoPumpkin: @MagpieFromHinky Do jurors seem annoyed or put off with Baez?” No. But they don't "know" him like we do. Ha
1 hour ago »
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Brad Conway says Casey doesn't tell "half truths" she blatantly lies. #CaseyAnthonytrial
1 hour ago »
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela
This isn't sadness in Casey. This is outright anger?
1 hour ago » MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Oh! My Casey is angry. During break she's loud and pointing crying hmmmm? Mom getting more attention.
1 hour ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2011, 12:05:08 PM
I think KC slept in her clothes last night.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc56.jpg)
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:06:08 PM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Cindy no longer try to make eye contact with Casey. Perhaps Casey has finally alienated the women who's stood by her side throughout
3 minutes ago

MagpieFromHinky Pamela
“@OrlandoPumpkin: @MagpieFromHinky Do jurors seem annoyed or put off with Baez?” No. But they don't "know" him like we do. Ha
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
http://twitter.com/#!/MagpieFromHinky (http://twitter.com/#!/MagpieFromHinky)

lol we are thinking alike


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 12:06:24 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/cindyleft.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
I think their objections are being overruled so often, it is in the defense's best interest to keep them to a minimum.  If I'm on a jury, it would adjust the daylights out of me for a lawyer to be objecting to everything and the judge overruling it.  The attorney would lose credibility in my eyes.  At some point, the evidence is what it is and it's coming in, so sit down and shut the hell up.

I looked back at the tape of Casey having her temper tantrum, and it appears to me she said something about Cindy crying on purpose and that she "didn't have to do that now!".  What a sociopath she is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:07:03 PM
Anyone have a shot of George sitting in the courtroom? I am asking because I believe I recognized a spectator.

Was it the tow yard guy?
No..it flashed by so fast. I thought I saw Gary sitting in front of George
Great recap Magic, thank you so much. you are an awesome monkey!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:07:14 PM
Killer can showing Cindy crying hysterically shaking her head as GA walks her out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:07:16 PM
Should have said "aggravated" the daylights out of me not "adjust".  Oh boy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 12:07:52 PM
Did you see George walking with Cindy into the courtroom.....he looked as if he was really hanging onto her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Can someone please get a screenshot of george?
He looks really bad this morning,doesn't he?

I can't do screenshots, but yes he looks bad/tired/stoic


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
The defense isn't attempting to object

I noticed that.  Very very curious.  They didn't object to Tony this morning either. 



I think the defense is going to take a very different tactic with Cindy. They are going to try and manipulate her testimony to make Casey look like a saint. They will be very gentle. They know she will lie to protect Casey. She has lied about the night of the 15th, with no mention of any disagreement with Casey. She has also lied about Caylee sleeping with Casey instead of usually just cuddling with her at night IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 12:08:34 PM
Oh bull crappy! That's what I have to say..... Let's see how this imaginary life goes on. As I said before, same ole,same ole


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: nikkibnurse on May 28, 2011, 12:08:41 PM
For the first time, i think we just witnessed REAL emotion form ICA....and it didnt come from a place of remorse, guilt, or apathy for her mother...this came from a place of " ME ME ME..POOR ME" WHich only proves, even further, what we already know to be true...Sociopaths only show emotion when its about THEMSELVES.... ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 12:09:00 PM
Killer can showing Cindy crying hysterically shaking her head as GA walks her out
Oh, they were coming out, I had just tuned to it seeing George really holding onto her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 12:09:23 PM
Has Juliette Lewis (other than the actress) ever been located by the Anthony's. I think Linda should ask that question.

Doesnt exist
She is a movie Star  she had nothing to do with Casey all a lie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:09:36 PM
WOW magic you do a great job!

Awesome magic............I was late getting here and this filled me in to where I can keep up. Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
Killer can showing Cindy crying hysterically shaking her head as GA walks her out
Oh, they were coming out, I had just tuned to it seeing George really holding onto her.
Yeah she looked pretty bad.. Not sure where they were headed but it looked like he was really holding on to her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:10:06 PM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela   Needs link, please.  MB
Cindy no longer try to make eye contact with Casey. Perhaps Casey has finally alienated the women who's stood by her side throughout
4 minutes ago »
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela
“@OrlandoPumpkin: @MagpieFromHinky Do jurors seem annoyed or put off with Baez?” No. But they don't "know" him like we do. Ha
1 hour ago »
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Brad Conway says Casey doesn't tell "half truths" she blatantly lies. #CaseyAnthonytrial
1 hour ago »
 MagpieFromHinky Pamela
This isn't sadness in Casey. This is outright anger?
1 hour ago » MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Oh! My Casey is angry. During break she's loud and pointing crying hmmmm? Mom getting more attention.
1 hour ago

Wonder what KC was yelling? I can't wait til Magpie's blog is up today...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 12:10:14 PM
Killer can showing Cindy crying hysterically shaking her head as GA walks her out
Where did you see this? I missed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:10:28 PM
Has Juliette Lewis (other than the actress) ever been located by the Anthony's. I think Linda should ask that question.

Doesnt exist
She is a movie Star  she had nothing to do with Casey all a lie

I have a feeling that Linda is going to take these lies apart one by one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:10:55 PM
Killer can showing Cindy crying hysterically shaking her head as GA walks her out
Where did you see this? I missed it.

here but showing ICA

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 12:11:03 PM
Has Juliette Lewis (other than the actress) ever been located by the Anthony's. I think Linda should ask that question.

Doesnt exist
She is a movie Star  she had nothing to do with Casey all a lie

Lol. I know..just thought Linda should ask.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cw618 on May 28, 2011, 12:11:15 PM
Quote
cap
She was engaged to Jesse, his parents were helping care for Caylee.  It got to the point that Casey was taking extreme advantage of their kindness.   They approached Casey that she needed to care for Caylee more and/or get assistance...thus the "nanny" appeared but didnt exist
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10085.msg1365248#msg1365248

TY

i dont remember the name Juliette Lewis,was her age ever disscussed and
did the LE ever find anyone named  Juliette Lewis,i had a film class and journalism
class with a Juliette Lewis, in high school and she moved to fla 2yr after i did
and as far as i know she is still in clearwater,she went to usf, nickname, jules
julee juju,married in 84 but kept her name,now divoriced, she is around 50+ in age


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:11:15 PM
The defense isn't attempting to object

I noticed that.  Very very curious.  They didn't object to Tony this morning either. 



I think the defense is going to take a very different tactic with Cindy. They are going to try and manipulate her testimony to make Casey look like a saint. They will be very gentle. They know she will lie to protect Casey. She has lied about the night of the 15th, with no mention of any disagreement with Casey. She has also lied about Caylee sleeping with Casey instead of usually just cuddling with her at night IMO.

I agree with that, Scatty, and I think they will try to rehabilitate Casey back to her former title, "Mother of the Year."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2011, 12:11:34 PM
Oh no, I have been typing since the trial started.  I hit something and I lost the whole thing.  Don't know what happened and I can't seem to find it anywhere.  It was just in the reply box. I am so sad.

Tony was up first, Mr George questioned him about the night of July 16, 2008,  They talked about a Blockbuster receipt, it was dated July 16th, at 7pm, 2008.  Tony talked about Amy coming to the door and then Cindy.  Cindy was mad and told Casey she was going home, Casey said no, she was coming back.  They left.  Later a deputy came to Tony's and took Casey's cell phone.  He came back an hour later and searched Tony's apt.  Only Nate and Tony were home.  Lee came around midnight and took a bag of Casey's clothes and her laptop.  Lee seemed very upset.  Tony said he started getting text messages from Casey the next morning.  She basically said she was the worse mother in the world for leaving Caylee with a psycho nanny.  Casey said if they never find Caylee, guess who is going to spend eternity in jail.  Casey, told Tony she loved him.  Tony said why are you texting, not calling.  Later Tony called her and questioned her.  The questions were going no where and he hung up.  Then Baez asked Tony if everything seemed bizarre and unreal and did Casey talk as if Caylee was still alive?  He asked more questions but they were stupid and sustained.  Tony seemed upset just reliving it.  Tony was done.

Cindy was up next, Linda is questioning her, she identified photos of the house and the backyard.  Linda marked the playhouse and Cindy started crying, she never really stopped.  Casey sat stone faced for most of it and never looked at Casey.  Cindy said she never suspected Casey was pregnant, Casey came to her work and told her in the car.  They told George then everyone, they made a Winnie the Pooh nursery.  Cindy cried at pictures of the nursery.  They then talked about the door out to the backyard, the glass door, Cindy is crying, 15 min recess.  Sorry if I forgot anything, I had to recall.  Recess for 15min.

Casey was crying during recess to Ms Simms, couldn't tell if it was real or not.

Back from recess, talking about the sliding glass doors again, one set goes out of the master bedroom, the other goes through the living room.  The living room door is the one mostly used.  They baby-proofed the house.  Caylee usually slept with Casey, only napped in her room occasionally.  Caylee was very verbal.  Could tell you a story.  They could mostly understand what she was saying.  Cindy never went 24 hours without seeing Caylee prior to June 2008.  Cindy took her birthday week off.  She took off Sat, Sunday and the entire week, she had Caylee everyday.  She took Caylee to Mt. Dora to see her father on Father's day.  Casey and lee had plans that day and George went to work on Father's day, 3-11 shift.  Went to Mt. Dora mid-morning till 2:30, 50 minute drive to and from.  Cindy says she took pictures and video on Father's Day at Mt. Dora, the nursing home.  Identifies a pic of that day, says that's our Caylee.  Published the pic to the jury.  Caylee in blue dress, smiling with coloring book.  Casey is crying now.  Cindy and Caylee left the nursing home and went to her mother's home had lunch and left back to Hopespring Dr.  Got home and Caylee wanted to go swimming.  Cindy wanted her to eat something, she didn't eat much at Mt. Dora.  Then they went out swimming.  Talking about the ladder, part of it is bolted to the pool, part is detachable.  When Caylee was a toddler, they started removing the ladder for safety.  They laid it on it's side when not in use.  The ladder is too heavy for a small child to pick up.  They stayed in the pool an hour or more, at least an hour.  Caylee had on a life-jacket.  While they were in the pool, Casey came home, did not get in the pool.  Cindy and Caylee got out of the pool.  Casey came out with a towel and got Caylee.  Cindy took off her life-jacket and swimsuit in the pool.  Cindy removed the ladder and went inside of the house.  Cindy recalls that evening like it was yesterday.  Cindy wanted to document that day because her father was taking a turn for the worse.  She told Casey about the videos and showed Casey the videos, Cindy and Casey cried while watching the videos.  Casey is crying in the courtroom.  Casey saved the pictures and the video on the computer.  They went to bed and George came home later after they were in bed.  Cindy had an early day the next day.  She left home the next day, June 16th at 7:30 am.  Cindy said she never saw Caylee again, Cindy is crying.  She thought Caylee was home that morning when she left for work.  She believed that her daughter had a job, an even coordinator at Universal Studios.  She thought she planned events for Mardi Gras or celebrities, worked behind the scenes, her hours were always different.  Cindy believed this because Casey told her this.  She saw other evidence of her working, like her lanyard and texts and emails from her work to her.  Cindy had seen Casey working at Universal before, that was before Caylee was born.  She believed that after Caylee was born, Casey went back to work 3 months later.  She was fired because she had 3 marks against her but she thought she got her job back.  The emails she saw were from Hard Rock Cafe.  Casey printed and showed Cindy this email.  Cindy watched Caylee when Casey went to work at night.  Cindy was usually the babysitter, if she was not home, George was the babysitter.  Cindy and Casey went out together and left Caylee with George!!!!!!  Cindy believed in June of 2008, that Casey had a babysitter named Zanny, Casey referred to her as the nanny.  Cindy did not have a full name of this nanny.  Casey had been talking about the nanny since 2006.  Zanny was the nanny of an IT person and he offered her to Casey as a nanny.  Lauren Gibs had been the primary sitter.  The co-worker referred to is Jeff Hopkins.  Zanny the nanny had been his sitter.  Cindy wants the picture of Caylee taken down, so she doesn't cry, the judge takes it down.  Cindy knew Lauren Gibbs personally and knew where she lived.  Cindy never met Zanny, she can't describe her.  In 2006, 2007, 2008, Zanny lived in diff places.  Casey told Cindy of all these places.  Zanny moved around quite frequently.  Cindy never drove Caylee to the nanny or picked her up from there.  Cindy never asked Casey to contribute money to the home, she wanted her to clean house and chores.  Casey pitched in without asking.  Casey didn't have to supply any money for living there.  Casey would get dressed and appeared to go to work, Casey always had extra clothes with her.  She was mostly dressed for work.  Cindy never found Zanny the nanny, from the 15th of July till 6 weeks ago!!!!!!!!! OMG, Cindy said she was still looking for the nanny 6 weeks ago!!!!!!!!!!  Cindy talked to Casey on June 16th, left messages mostly but may of had a brief conversation around 4ish, lasted a few seconds.  Casey said she was gonna spend the night at Zanny's but she couldn't drop of Caylee with Cindy cuz Cindy had a meeting.  So was going to take Caylee to Zanny's and they were gonna spend the night.  George had to work, Monday June 16th, 3 to 11.  It made sense for her to go to Zanny and spend the night of June 16th, 2008.  She thought Caylee would come home with Casey on Tuesday, June 17th.  Casey made up excuses about meetings why she couldn't come home on Tuesday.  Caylee was gonna stay at Zanny's again on Tues night.  Cindy thought they would come home on Wed but Casey, said the negotiations for Hard Rock were ongoing and they were gonna head to Tampa.  Casey would take the Nanny with her and take her to Busch Gardens in Tampa.  Also going was Juliette Lewis a co-worker and her daughter Annabelle.  Cindy thought they were coming home Sat, June 21, 2008, Cindy talked to Casey everday while she was gone, once during the day and in the evenings.  Caylee never talked to her on the phone, Cindy asked but there was always a reason she couldn't talk to Caylee.  ALWAYS a reason why she couldn't talk to Caylee.  On Sat, Casey told her they were gonna go back to the park and enjoy the stay, on Sunday, June 22, 2008.  She thought they would next come home on Monday, June 23, 2008.  That didn't happen, Cindy waited all day for her to come home.  By 4pm Cindy was concerned and talked to her co-workers about it.  Casey called and said she was in a car accident, don't panic.  Casey said that she witnessed Zanny get in a car accident and had been at the hospital all day with Zanny.  Casey and Caylee were just fine.  She didn't let her talk to Cindy, always a reason.  The toddlers were not around the emergency room so Cindy couldn't talk to her.  On June 24, 2008, there was an incident with the shed, Cindy knew that George called the sheriff dept.  Cindy knew in the morning about the shed break-in, she told Casey about it, when they were talking about Zanny in the hospital.  Cindy found out that George had seen Casey in the house on June 24, 2008.  After learning that Casey was at the house and not in the hospital in Tampa, Cindy called Casey and Casey told her that she drove home because she needed Zanny's insurance information and stopped home to get some things.  Asked her why she didn't bring Caylee home an Cindy could take off work to watch her.  Casey told Cindy that she had given George the gas cans, Casey told her that she took them to Tampa with her cuz her gas gauge was broken.  She told Cindy this on June 24th but she knew Casey hadn't been home since June 16th but Cindy says she didn't think of this.  She asked Casey why she was doing this and not someone from Zanny's family.  She wanted Caylee home.  Casey told her that Zanny's mother was very ill and Zanny's family was taking care of her.  Casey was the only one that could help Zanny.  She wanted Caylee close to her so she wasn't going to bring her home.  Cindy started missing Caylee June 16, 2008.  Cindy started sleeping with Caylee's teddy bear, named Teddy.  She needed something to cuddle with.  Caylee is remaining stone faced through all of this.

10 minute break, I am going to hit post before this one disappears too, Lil.  Sorry for anything I missed from starting over.  I think I got most of the points.  Everything we really knew before but now the jury knows it too.

I think the most shocking thing of the day is that CINDY SAID SHE WAS STILL LOOKING FOR ZANNY THE NANNY SIX WEEKS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning monkeys  ::MonkeyKiss::

Thanks Magic Eyes!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
If that is Gary, I would bet my house he finally got through to Cindy.. he is a pysch nurse


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 12:12:01 PM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....


waiting with for that here Sunny.... by now if I were Cindy I would have said....you little bitch , I wanna talk to my Caylee...put her on the effing phone NOW!!!!

me too!!! Cindy KNEW she wasn't working and this was all a lie....she could have saved Caylee if she wouldn't have been so damned concerned about upsetting KC

Cindy was testifying to what she believed to be the truth at the time.

As a parent, you don't want to give up on your kids.  Cindy is in a horrible spot as a woman, mother, and a grandmother.

Casey spun an elaborate yarn to her mother.

Casey is the issue here, not Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 12:12:05 PM
JP is funny. He calls married ladies like Cindy "Miss Anthony" and calls Casey "Mrs. Anthony"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 12:12:12 PM
WOW magic you do a great job!

Magic has kept me up all week.... and I sooo appreciate it!!! Awesome job!!! ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:12:18 PM
If that is Gary, I would bet my house he finally got through to Cindy.. he is a pysch nurse

Who is Gary?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:12:21 PM
Killer can showing Cindy crying hysterically shaking her head as GA walks her out
Oh, they were coming out, I had just tuned to it seeing George really holding onto her.

Sorry, I missed it, was not at my computer at the time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:12:28 PM
The intricacy of Casey's lies just wows me.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 12:12:35 PM
Cindy is actually helping the defense.  She is repeating, in detail, what she believed (at that time) because Casey told her...demonstrating the extent of Caseys' lies to Cindy to conceal that Caylee was gone...the everchanging litany of excuses of why Cindy couldn't physically see Caylee.  The state has spent this past week buliding their case, detailing from every person Casey associated with that she spun numerous elaborate lies to hide Caylee's whereabouts. Cindy will not be responsible for Casey going down, Casey's own words will.

I don't believe it is helping the defense at all. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on May 28, 2011, 12:12:46 PM
I think KC slept in her clothes last night.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc56.jpg)

 I was thinking the same thing.. I cant stand wrinkles.. I iron everything!  lol   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:12:59 PM
If I were KC and my mother was up there I would just yell out - OKAY I did it now get me out of here. If you knew my mother, you would never have lied to her. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 12:13:37 PM
The intricacy of Casey's lies just wows me.   
I know, me too.  It's unbelievable how much detail she goes into with these lies....at the tip of her tongue too. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:13:54 PM
I hope that Ms. Drane-Burdick is leading up to Cindy admitting that she now knows all of this crap was "Mistruths."   So far, Cindy is acting as if she still believe it, although she is no longer looking for Zanny.

I can't put Cindy's behaviour out of my mind--Cindy with a hammer, Cindy mixing it up with the protestors, Cindy's behaviour with Mr. Morgan and insulting Zenaida Gonzalez.  A leopard doesn't change it's spots.  What truth she may tell is, IMO, pure self-protection.

If I were Linda, I wouldn't ask Cindy that question.  An attorney needs to know the answer BEFORE the question is asked.  I'm not sure Cindy wouldn't hem and haw around a question like that; especially, after hearing Cindy say she was still looking for zanny until 6 weeks ago.

Linda could accomplish the goal in closing arguments, by pointing out to the jury that we "now" know that all of what KC told her mother was a lie.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:13:57 PM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....


waiting with for that here Sunny.... by now if I were Cindy I would have said....you little bitch , I wanna talk to my Caylee...put her on the effing phone NOW!!!!

me too!!! Cindy KNEW she wasn't working and this was all a lie....she could have saved Caylee if she wouldn't have been so damned concerned about upsetting KC

Cindy was testifying to what she believed to be the truth at the time.

As a parent, you don't want to give up on your kids.  Cindy is in a horrible spot as a woman, mother, and a grandmother.

Casey spun an elaborate yarn to her mother.

Casey is the issue here, not Cindy.

But at the moment, Cindy is the witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:13:59 PM
If that is Gary, I would bet my house he finally got through to Cindy.. he is a pysch nurse

Who is Gary?
Cindys brother


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:14:27 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image36-1.png)

Got him during the sidebar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:14:30 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sassycat on May 28, 2011, 12:14:34 PM
If that is Gary, I would bet my house he finally got through to Cindy.. he is a pysch nurse

Who is Gary?

Cindy's brother?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:14:53 PM
the evil jealous wench stole the tedd bear out of jealousy??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:14:55 PM
Teddy is missing!

KC kept coming into the house when the A's were gone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:15:04 PM
If that is Gary, I would bet my house he finally got through to Cindy.. he is a pysch nurse

Who is Gary?
Cindys brother

Oh Ok thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:15:31 PM
the evil jealous wench stole the tedd bear out of jealousy??

WOW!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
OMG...Cindy was sleeping with Caylee's teddybear and then it disappeared...was there a teddy bear collected at the remains site?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 12:15:33 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

That's what I think and the way Cindy back peddled is why I think she will do whatever she can to help Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 12:15:39 PM
STOP LYING CINDY! Casey took Teddy because Cindy said she was sleeping with the bear in lieu of Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:17:00 PM
Whether or not Cindy is lying, or will lie, is very, very important to Justice.  In that regard, it is about Cindy, right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:17:11 PM
Not him as I remember him, he is all gray now.. thanks Brandi!
He was at the memorial sitting next to Shirley.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:17:15 PM
OMG...Cindy was sleeping with Caylee's teddybear and then it disappeared...was there a teddy bear collected at the remains site?

Oohh, good question!  I can't remember.  Does anyone remember whether a teddy was at the site of the remains?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:17:24 PM
MagpieFromHinky Pamela  Needs link please.  MB
Am I the only one who thinks Cindy's statement that she quit looking for Zanny is very significant? #CaseyAnthonytrial


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:18:02 PM
My gosh...the details KC went into - truly a sociopath!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:18:59 PM
how dare they betray me!!
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/HOWDARETHEY.png)

She didnt dare do that in front of the jury because she KNOWS she's having a fit for self-servant reasons & its all BS created by herself.

Sorry for my bluntness, but Casey IMO is crying for herself as usual because I bet she thought Cindy would testify for her and not Caylee, and I think she thought Cindy's testimony would nullify George's in order to help her case.........but, sounds like she isn't. Finally Casey is worse than a cold hearted sociopathic bitch, she is a C (I won't spell it out as that word totally offends many ) but IMO it is what it is, and Casey is a coniving, sociopathic, selfish, cold hearted bitch and a C. There is a special place in hell for ppl like this and I don't care how long it takes for her to make it to that special place in hell, knowing she ultimately will is good enough for me.........again sorry if I offended anyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:19:22 PM
Bozo is still logged into FB although his status indicates that he's idle.
No way Bozo's getting to Cindy today.

nope......and I hope not...let KC stew til Monday!!  My DH just asked if KC would agree to see her Mom NOW hoping to sway her testimony....good question I said

I bet Casey is too angry with Cindy at this point to see her, even if Baez agreed to a visit.

I am not sure at this point since the trial has started and Cindy is a witness they would allow a visit like that.

Sorry...I should have said he said this tongue in cheek....with a big eye roll!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:19:30 PM
Whoa!  B*tch slap!

I'm just the Grandma.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 12:19:49 PM
My gosh...the details KC went into - truly a sociopath!



Not much different that the details Cindy is regurgitating.  Who the hell remembers that much crap?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
IMO the premise of these answers is coming from "what did you believe at the time" not what do you know now.  Does anyone else see it that way?

ITA..they have to take Cindy through this as how things were then, what she was told then, not what she thinks now..

The argument has not been asked about by Linda.  Cindy has been briefed to answer what she is being asked and that they have to introduce certain evidence at certain times for it not to get tossed.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:20:00 PM
OMG...Cindy was sleeping with Caylee's teddybear and then it disappeared...was there a teddy bear collected at the remains site?

Oohh, good question!  I can't remember.  Does anyone remember whether a teddy was at the site of the remains?
Maybe KC didn't know Cindy was sleeping with the bear when she took it, probably thought no one would miss the bear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 12:20:07 PM
My gosh...the details KC went into - truly a sociopath!



Bingo....anyone who cannot see that is blind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 12:21:08 PM
By the time this is over the jurors will run out of Orlando to get home.
 ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 12:21:10 PM
ummmm....does Jeffrey exist?? I can't keep track of her men, real or not, lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:21:22 PM
Good grief!  The details just never end!

KC must have been having a really good time messing with her mom and dad's minds!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 12:21:27 PM
Does Cindy still believe this? She is talking like this is the truth. Wow how elaborate KC was

what would be KC reson to make up zanny in spring 2006


She was engaged to Jesse, his parents were helping care for Caylee.  It got to the point that Casey was taking extreme advantage of their kindness.   They approached Casey that she needed to care for Caylee more and/or get assistance...thus the "nanny" appeared but didnt exist

maybe Casey invented Zanny when she was leaving Caylee with whomever and that way it's just one person and not the many friends, jesse's family, etc. that were possibly actually watching her, that way Cindy couldn't complain that Caylee was passing through a lot of hands she didn't know. just a thought


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 12:22:31 PM
ummmm....does Jeffrey exist?? I can't keep track of her men, real or not, lol.

No, he does not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 12:23:34 PM
I've been wondering if maybe Casey was considering using the gas to do something with deceased-Caylee - all this gas can stuff. 
Nah...I remember KC making a statement after Caylee's memorial and she was angry at the family for having cremated her...my thought at the time was, given Casey's penchant for stealing gas, if she wanted to cremate Caylee, she could have taken care of it herself....

I read this like you were kind of joking, but I did read somewhere early on during this case that it's not as easy to burn a body as one may think.  especially since the body is something like 80% water, more so in children.  maybe Casey tried to burn Caylee (reason why she took the gas cans?) and when it didn't work, she tossed her in the local woods/swamp down the street... a recent theory of my own...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:23:54 PM
ummmm....does Jeffrey exist?? I can't keep track of her men, real or not, lol.

No, he does not.

I thought  there was a Jeff Hopkins? But this story was not true


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:24:11 PM
ummmm....does Jeffrey exist?? I can't keep track of her men, real or not, lol.

No, he does not.

I thought KC went to HS with a Jeff Hopkins, but he never worked at Universal, he didn't have a kid and he didn't have a trust fund. She borrowed the name...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:24:11 PM
By the time this is over the jurors will run out of Orlando to get home.
 ::piggy::

Yeppers!

In fact, remember, a couple of days ago the jury asked the judge if the alternates might get to go home early.  What!?!?!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:24:35 PM
---baez whispers to kc---------she then scribbles him a note

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/note.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 12:24:38 PM
Cindy is actually helping the defense.  She is repeating, in detail, what she believed (at that time) because Casey told her...demonstrating the extent of Caseys' lies to Cindy to conceal that Caylee was gone...the everchanging litany of excuses of why Cindy couldn't physically see Caylee.  The state has spent this past week buliding their case, detailing from every person Casey associated with that she spun numerous elaborate lies to hide Caylee's whereabouts. Cindy will not be responsible for Casey going down, Casey's own words will.

I don't believe it is helping the defense at all. 

My Mistake- Type- Meant to Cindy is helping the prosecution.  Sorry everybody!!  Trying to type fast to catch up.  Ugggh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:25:27 PM
By the time this is over the jurors will run out of Orlando to get home.
 ::piggy::

Yeppers!

In fact, remember, a couple of days ago the jury asked the judge if the alternates might get to go home early.  What!?!?!


LOL  dont be surprised if they dont hand the judge a note
your honor we have a verdict ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 12:25:57 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/s707917422_922.jpg)

Jeff Hopkins


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cw618 on May 28, 2011, 12:26:40 PM
does anyone have a list of the non existent people,dang confusing after a 3yr wait


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 12:26:43 PM
By the time this is over the jurors will run out of Orlando to get home.
 ::piggy::

Yeppers!

In fact, remember, a couple of days ago the jury asked the judge if the alternates might get to go home early.  What!?!?!


LOL  dont be surprised if they dont hand the judge a note
your honor we have a verdict ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ::

You know that is pretty much what they are thinking. How in the world are they going to believe anything Casey now has to say?  I just don't see it happening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 12:26:51 PM
the evil jealous wench stole the tedd bear out of jealousy??

gosh this family is all about the tangible objects.  I keep momentos of people here and there, but snuggling Caylee's teddy bear by Cindy and Casey's placing that heart sticker seem like they are both a little off in the same way to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
ummmm....does Jeffrey exist?? I can't keep track of her men, real or not, lol.

No, he does not.

I thought KC went to HS with a Jeff Hopkins, but he never worked at Universal, he didn't have a kid and he didn't have a trust fund. She borrowed the name...
zanny the nanny
jeffrey hopkins all reside at the twilight zone.. next they are going to say.. that is why caylee liked to look at the stars to wave at them...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:26:58 PM
IMO the premise of these answers is coming from "what did you believe at the time" not what do you know now.  Does anyone else see it that way?

ITA..they have to take Cindy through this as how things were then, what she was told then, not what she thinks now..

The argument has not been asked about by Linda.  Cindy has been briefed to answer what she is being asked and that they have to introduce certain evidence at certain times for it not to get tossed.



Did I misunderstand, or didn't Ms. Drane Burdick ask her to describe the evening of June 15th?  If so, that to me doesn't mean selectively describe the evening, but describe the evening in total.  Maybe it's just me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:27:13 PM
Cindy says she communicated daily with Casey either vm, text, phone, etc.  She said, "I *thought* I knew where she was". 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 12:27:22 PM
WOW magic you do a great job!

Awesome magic............I was late getting here and this filled me in to where I can keep up. Thank you.

 ::MonkeyCool::  Many thanks from me too.  I was also late and this is so kind of you to do this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 12:27:28 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Some characters named are partially real. No zanny, no Juliet.


Needs link please.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:27:41 PM
ummmm....does Jeffrey exist?? I can't keep track of her men, real or not, lol.

No, he does not.

I thought KC went to HS with a Jeff Hopkins, but he never worked at Universal, he didn't have a kid and he didn't have a trust fund. She borrowed the name...
zanny the nanny
jeffrey hopkins all reside at the twilight zone.. next they are going to say.. that is why caylee liked to look at the stars to wave at them...

LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
I want Yuri on the stand so he can dispell these "work" rumors! Casey never had a job! somebody say so please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KCJackie on May 28, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/s707917422_922.jpg)

Jeff Hopkins

TY Blonde!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
"I cant remember what excuse..."   hmmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:28:21 PM
By the time this is over the jurors will run out of Orlando to get home.
 ::piggy::

Yeppers!

In fact, remember, a couple of days ago the jury asked the judge if the alternates might get to go home early.  What!?!?!


LOL  dont be surprised if they dont hand the judge a note
your honor we have a verdict ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ::

You know that is pretty much what they are thinking. How in the world are they going to believe anything Casey now has to say?  I just don't see it happening.

I think linda is making sure that the defense doesnt get a turn to question cindy.
this way the jury has all weekend to think about what they heard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:28:34 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/s707917422_922.jpg)

Jeff Hopkins

(144) Jeffrey Hopkins - Jeffrey II father - added Nov 17, 2008

on State's witness list: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8205.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 12:28:39 PM
I just think, even though they are lies, Cindy keeps embellishing her answers trying to make Casey appear to be a good person.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 12:28:41 PM
Cindy is actually helping the defense.  She is repeating, in detail, what she believed (at that time) because Casey told her...demonstrating the extent of Caseys' lies to Cindy to conceal that Caylee was gone...the everchanging litany of excuses of why Cindy couldn't physically see Caylee.  The state has spent this past week buliding their case, detailing from every person Casey associated with that she spun numerous elaborate lies to hide Caylee's whereabouts. Cindy will not be responsible for Casey going down, Casey's own words will.

I don't believe it is helping the defense at all. 

My Mistake- Type- Meant to Cindy is helping the prosecution.  Sorry everybody!!  Trying to type fast to catch up.  Ugggh!

Cindy is helping the prosecution......period.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 12:28:55 PM
Snipped----

maybe Casey invented Zanny when she was leaving Caylee with whomever and that way it's just one person and not the many friends, jesse's family, etc. that were possibly actually watching her, that way Cindy couldn't complain that Caylee was passing through a lot of hands she didn't know. just a thought

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Not possible, IMO.  Those friends would have testified to having kept Caylee for Casey on those days and they did not.  They all relayed the same Nanny/babysitter story Casey fed them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
lmao loca


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:28:58 PM
deep inhale when Cindy said "Juliette Lewis" was her friend. HAHA dumbazz lies and lies and lies.  This is disgusting to hear.

When in the hell is Linda going to make her admit that she now knows all this is an elaborate LIE.....


waiting with for that here Sunny.... by now if I were Cindy I would have said....you little bitch , I wanna talk to my Caylee...put her on the effing phone NOW!!!!

me too!!! Cindy KNEW she wasn't working and this was all a lie....she could have saved Caylee if she wouldn't have been so damned concerned about upsetting KC

Cindy was testifying to what she believed to be the truth at the time.

As a parent, you don't want to give up on your kids.  Cindy is in a horrible spot as a woman, mother, and a grandmother.

Casey spun an elaborate yarn to her mother.

Casey is the issue here, not Cindy.

I am a mother and I agree Cindy is in a horrible spot. One she is partially responsible for being in.   I am fully aware of WHO the issue is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 12:29:20 PM
I've been wondering if maybe Casey was considering using the gas to do something with deceased-Caylee - all this gas can stuff. 
Nah...I remember KC making a statement after Caylee's memorial and she was angry at the family for having cremated her...my thought at the time was, given Casey's penchant for stealing gas, if she wanted to cremate Caylee, she could have taken care of it herself....

I read this like you were kind of joking, but I did read somewhere early on during this case that it's not as easy to burn a body as one may think.  especially since the body is something like 80% water, more so in children.  maybe Casey tried to burn Caylee (reason why she took the gas cans?) and when it didn't work, she tossed her in the local woods/swamp down the street... a recent theory of my own...

See that's what I wondered, too ... if maybe it was an option she was entertaining, maybe even tried but it didn't work like she thought, or made too much smoke, or she decided it might be too noticeable, or that she couldn't handle it.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
I've been wondering if maybe Casey was considering using the gas to do something with deceased-Caylee - all this gas can stuff. 
Nah...I remember KC making a statement after Caylee's memorial and she was angry at the family for having cremated her...my thought at the time was, given Casey's penchant for stealing gas, if she wanted to cremate Caylee, she could have taken care of it herself....

I read this like you were kind of joking, but I did read somewhere early on during this case that it's not as easy to burn a body as one may think.  especially since the body is something like 80% water, more so in children.  maybe Casey tried to burn Caylee (reason why she took the gas cans?) and when it didn't work, she tossed her in the local woods/swamp down the street... a recent theory of my own...

Actually, I wasn't joking. KC's post memorial statement also claimed that she wanted Caylee buried in a nice place so she could go and visit her, which is why she left her in the woods off Suburban. You're right about it being difficult to burn a body, plus that might have drawn some attention from neighbors, or the authorities. KC didn't want Caylee found...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

I don't think Cindy lied.  I don't think those questions were asked of Cindy.  Maybe Linda doesn't want to disclose it....or, more likely, Linda doesn't want to disclose is right now.

Linda is trying to lay the "foundation" right now, IMO, and will "fill-in" the foundation as time goes on.  This will not be the only time Cindy is on the stand.



Except Cindy said they had a very pleasant but emotional evening--the emotion was caused by seeing  what they thought might be the last pics of Mr. Pleasea.  That is not a truthful description of the evening.

Ex-fiancée Jesse Grund alleged Casey Anthony, mother fought
22 December 2008 @ 01:43 pm EDT


The ex-fiancée of Casey Anthony alleged that she and her mother got into a big argument the night before Casey's daughter Caylee went missing.

Jesse Grund told Sherriff's investigators about the incident in documents released by the State Attorney's Office in late November, saying he learned of it from Casey's brother Lee Anthony.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said, after a review of documents by Central Florida 13 news.

<snipped>

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081222/fianc-eacutejesse-grund-alleged-casey-anthony-mother-fought.htm
 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
Make A WIsh Foundation....wow just wow, to make something up like that

PS that can be so easily verified


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/s707917422_922.jpg)

Jeff Hopkins
Jeffrey Hopkins Interview
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042389/Jeffrey-Hopkins-Interview


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
I just think, even though they are lies, Cindy keeps embellishing her answers trying to make Casey appear to be a good person.  JMO

I don't know what to think lol..

Um make a wish foundation wow

But she speaks like she knows these people and these things occurred. But I guess the state is trying to show just how elaborate of a liar Casey was


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:30:22 PM
I've been wondering if maybe Casey was considering using the gas to do something with deceased-Caylee - all this gas can stuff. 
Nah...I remember KC making a statement after Caylee's memorial and she was angry at the family for having cremated her...my thought at the time was, given Casey's penchant for stealing gas, if she wanted to cremate Caylee, she could have taken care of it herself....

I read this like you were kind of joking, but I did read somewhere early on during this case that it's not as easy to burn a body as one may think.  especially since the body is something like 80% water, more so in children.  maybe Casey tried to burn Caylee (reason why she took the gas cans?) and when it didn't work, she tossed her in the local woods/swamp down the street... a recent theory of my own...

Actually, I wasn't joking. KC's post memorial statement also claimed that she wanted Caylee buried in a nice place so she could go and visit her, which is why she left her in the woods off Suburban. You're right about it being difficult to burn a body, plus that might have drawn some attention from neighbors, or the authorities. KC didn't want Caylee found...JMO

Sorry about the quotebox...

Actually, I wasn't joking. KC's post memorial statement also claimed that she wanted Caylee buried in a nice place so she could go and visit her, which is why she left her in the woods off Suburban. You're right about it being difficult to burn a body, plus that might have drawn some attention from neighbors, or the authorities. KC didn't want Caylee found...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:30:44 PM
What is truly remarkable to me is how well Casey could lie on the fly.  Like, she didn't know for sure what questions her mother would ask at any given time, but she always had an answer.  I can't tell a good lie even if I have a lot of time to think it through!  lol  I am just amazed at her ability to lie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:31:00 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/s707917422_922.jpg)

Jeff Hopkins

(144) Jeffrey Hopkins - Jeffrey II father - added Nov 17, 2008

on State's witness list: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8205.0

Hopkins, Jeffrey Dale II   – Went to high school with Casey Anthony (graduated 2003). Had not seen her for years until beginning of July when he ran into her while they were eating with separate parties at the Orlando Ale House (631 North Alafaya Trail). They had a brief conversation and returned to their meals. He has never met Caylee Anthony and no idea why Casey had called his parent’s residence.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3626.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:31:07 PM
DiDimond Diane Dimond  Needs link, please.  MB
#CaseyAnthony Cindy Sasha. "Casey is a grown woman, independent..who am I to interfere?"Jury seems spellbound by Cindy's narrative. CA,bored <--- ca here means Casey

Baez has a puzzled look while CA say she needs to collects her thoughts about the events


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
Can we get the myspace posting please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:32:11 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:32:18 PM
Cindy is actually helping the defense.  She is repeating, in detail, what she believed (at that time) because Casey told her...demonstrating the extent of Caseys' lies to Cindy to conceal that Caylee was gone...the everchanging litany of excuses of why Cindy couldn't physically see Caylee.  The state has spent this past week buliding their case, detailing from every person Casey associated with that she spun numerous elaborate lies to hide Caylee's whereabouts. Cindy will not be responsible for Casey going down, Casey's own words will.

I don't believe it is helping the defense at all. 

My Mistake- Type- Meant to Cindy is helping the prosecution.  Sorry everybody!!  Trying to type fast to catch up.  Ugggh!

Cindy is helping the prosecution......period.

I think that if and when Cindy admits that she now knows that all of this was not true, will it help the prosecution. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 12:32:57 PM
Just clarifying here -Cindy is helping the Prosecution by relaying the detailed lies Casey told me/them. I need to learn to type instead of hen-peck!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:33:16 PM
We can be here until the end of July with Cindy and her narrative of KC's lies  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:33:24 PM
Cindy is actually helping the defense.  She is repeating, in detail, what she believed (at that time) because Casey told her...demonstrating the extent of Caseys' lies to Cindy to conceal that Caylee was gone...the everchanging litany of excuses of why Cindy couldn't physically see Caylee.  The state has spent this past week buliding their case, detailing from every person Casey associated with that she spun numerous elaborate lies to hide Caylee's whereabouts. Cindy will not be responsible for Casey going down, Casey's own words will.

I don't believe it is helping the defense at all. 

My Mistake- Type- Meant to Cindy is helping the prosecution.  Sorry everybody!!  Trying to type fast to catch up.  Ugggh!

Cindy is helping the prosecution......period.

I think that if and when Cindy admits that she now knows that all of this was not true, will it help the prosecution. 

Yes, that distinction has to be made....not just "I believed" or "that's the excuse"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:33:38 PM
Whether or not Cindy is lying, or will lie, is very, very important to Justice.  In that regard, it is about Cindy, right now.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:33:41 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 12:33:44 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/s707917422_922.jpg)

Jeff Hopkins
Jeffrey Hopkins Interview
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042389/Jeffrey-Hopkins-Interview


The Jeff Hopkins that Casey was referencing to Cindy was just a figment of her imagination.
Should have been more explicit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 12:33:51 PM
We can be here until the end of July with Cindy and her narrative of KC's lies  ::MonkeyHaHa::
That's ok with me, all these lies need to come out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:34:02 PM
Cindy drove to Universal to speak with Casey and see Caylee.  She called Casey on her cell and Casey told her she wasn't at Universal, she was in Jacksonville trying to rekindle relationship with Jeffrey.  Man, this chick can lie!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:34:14 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:34:27 PM
ummmm....does Jeffrey exist?? I can't keep track of her men, real or not, lol.

There is a Jeff, but he has no kids and had not talked to KC in years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:35:01 PM
---it appears that baez has been texting for awhile now.....kc the cold-hearted listens to cindy

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/BOZOTEXTING.jpg)


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Wasnt she already with tony but trying to rekindle with thius other guy.. wow can you imagine the jury captivated..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:35:07 PM
We can be here until the end of July with Cindy and her narrative of KC's lies  ::MonkeyHaHa::
That's ok with me, all these lies need to come out.

This will linger all weekend with the jury because its doubtful bozo will be getting a chance to cross bully


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:35:38 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.

KC tells Mom she's trying to rekindle her relationship with Jeff - in early July - while she's soooo in love with Tony.

Wow....hoping like crazy that Tony hears this.


Oops! Just heard Cindy say she realized that KC had been lying to her.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:35:52 PM
---it appears that baez has been texting for awhile now.....kc the cold-hearted listens to cindy

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/BOZOTEXTING.jpg)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Wasnt she already with tony but trying to rekindle with thius other guy.. wow can you imagine the jury captivated..

Any shock there?   But actually she wasnt rekindling with this guy, he was a ruse


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:36:02 PM
cindy appears calmer...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:36:56 PM
Cindy has serious "tells" - when she is making up something she touches her hair or her face.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 12:37:04 PM
I'd love to see the faces of the jurors going threw this....
What are the jurors thinking......
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:37:08 PM
Casey Anthony News13

Jury seems to be hanging on Cindy's words. All looking at her while she testifies.

https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.

KC tells Mom she's trying to rekindle her relationship with Jeff - in early July - while she's soooo in love with Tony.

Wow....hoping like crazy that Tony hears this.


Oops! Just heard Cindy say she realized that KC had been lying to her.



ooo this was during the week Tony was in NY right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:37:28 PM
Cindy reached out to Ryan, a friend of Casey's in Jax, to see if he knew if Casey was there or not.  Ryan said Casey had contacted him that she (Casey) was coming to Jax and they needed to hook up.  So then Cindy started to believe that Casey really was in Jax. 

Cindy reached out to Lee to ask if he had any idea if Casey had talked to him and confided in him where she was and he hadn't spoken to her (Casey) in a few days.

All this on July 3rd.

Cindy created a myspace account after 8 p.m. on 7/3.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:37:41 PM
O wait this is Ryan...my bad

I cant keep this slore's flavor of the month weeks tallied....good gravy she was like a slot machine in Vegas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:38:18 PM
Will the defense object to the myspace posting??

I hope not


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 12:38:25 PM
I'd love to see the faces of the jurors going threw this....
What are the jurors thinking......
 ::MonkeyShovel::


I'm sure their heads are spinning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:38:25 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

There seemed to be some confusion. Linday asked Cindy if KC knew she was sleeping with the bear and Cindy responded that she did, but wasn't sure if it was before or after the bear went missing. Linda said something about getting back to it...I bet it's in a depo and LDB will check, she's cutting Cindy some slack..IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:38:35 PM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/4-5.png)

cindy/casey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 28, 2011, 12:38:49 PM
I think I'd have asked where the bear was put each morning, after the bed was made.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 12:39:04 PM
Casey Anthony News13

Jury seems to be hanging on Cindy's words. All looking at her while she testifies.

https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

Can you imagine trying to take notes on this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 12:39:15 PM
We can be here until the end of July with Cindy and her narrative of KC's lies  ::MonkeyHaHa::

July of 2525??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 12:39:22 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 12:39:30 PM
Good grief!  The details just never end!

KC must have been having a really good time messing with her mom and dad's minds!



This is the tool sociopaths use to keep people in their lives confused and hooked in at the same time..it's called gaslighting..and Casey has raised this to an art form !

It goes beyond lies to mess with people's heads so they begin to doubt themselves more then the sociopath.  I would say up until 6 weeks ago, when they found out what Casey's true plans to save herself this time, they were hooked into her lies. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
Tweets from CFNews13 reporters in Court Room:  Needs link, please.  MB

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy went to Universal Studios July 2008 to talk to Casey about money issues. She went to guest services to see her daughter.
2 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Jury seems to be hanging on Cindy's words. All looking at her while she testifies.
5 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy says she talked to Casey everyday during the time frame after she last saw Caylee. She thought she knew where she was.
7 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy says Casey told her the new guy had a trust fund and a little boy 1 yr older than Caylee.
10 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy talking about Casey's boyfriend "Jefferey" and "Zanny" Cindy hasn't said if these people are real or not.
11 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:40:25 PM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

I don't think Cindy lied.  I don't think those questions were asked of Cindy.  Maybe Linda doesn't want to disclose it....or, more likely, Linda doesn't want to disclose is right now.

Linda is trying to lay the "foundation" right now, IMO, and will "fill-in" the foundation as time goes on.  This will not be the only time Cindy is on the stand.



Except Cindy said they had a very pleasant but emotional evening--the emotion was caused by seeing  what they thought might be the last pics of Mr. Pleasea.  That is not a truthful description of the evening.

Ex-fiancée Jesse Grund alleged Casey Anthony, mother fought
22 December 2008 @ 01:43 pm EDT


The ex-fiancée of Casey Anthony alleged that she and her mother got into a big argument the night before Casey's daughter Caylee went missing.

Jesse Grund told Sherriff's investigators about the incident in documents released by the State Attorney's Office in late November, saying he learned of it from Casey's brother Lee Anthony.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said, after a review of documents by Central Florida 13 news.

<snipped>

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081222/fianc-eacutejesse-grund-alleged-casey-anthony-mother-fought.htm
 
And didn't Lee get that info from KC....




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
My gosh...the details KC went into - truly a sociopath!



Not much different that the details Cindy is regurgitating.  Who the hell remembers that much crap?
Beth Holloway would .
I'm sure this was running in her head over & over for three years now ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:40:52 PM
Here we go with the Myspace letter to Casey

WOW...Cindy thought it would be private, didnt understand how Myspace worked

She was pleading with Casey, felt it best instead of yelling at her...o boy

Entry being identified and requested to be entered into evidence


This will be very impacting on the jury


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 12:41:19 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

She will..if that Teddy bear was found either with Caylee or the things Casey left at Chris S parent's house..it will come in at that time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:41:39 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/s707917422_922.jpg)

Jeff Hopkins
Jeffrey Hopkins Interview
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042389/Jeffrey-Hopkins-Interview


thanks trim.... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:41:53 PM
CIndy did not post the picture depicted on her myspace, she didnt know how to

Wow


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
We can be here until the end of July with Cindy and her narrative of KC's lies  ::MonkeyHaHa::
That's ok with me, all these lies need to come out.

This will linger all weekend with the jury because its doubtful bozo will be getting a chance to cross bully
I could see the defense running out the clock with Cindy so all of this ferments with the jury until tuesday  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:43:14 PM
Side bar on admitting the myspace posting by cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:43:33 PM
Here we go with the Myspace letter to Casey

WOW...Cindy thought it would be private, didnt understand how Myspace worked

She was pleading with Casey, felt it best instead of yelling at her...o boy

Entry being identified and requested to be entered into evidence


This will be very impacting on the jury

Defense objects, now a sidebar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 12:43:40 PM
Naturally dumb and dumber are objecting to Cindy's MySpace entry.

Now @ sidebar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:43:57 PM
Sidebar, another objection by defense about the myspace 7/3 letter coming in

It will...no worries


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:44:03 PM
CIndy did not post the picture depicted on her myspace, she didnt know how to

Wow
What picture was depicted and who placed it there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:44:20 PM
Good grief!  The details just never end!

KC must have been having a really good time messing with her mom and dad's minds!



This is the tool sociopaths use to keep people in their lives confused and hooked in at the same time..it's called gaslighting..and Casey has raised this to an art form !

It goes beyond lies to mess with people's heads so they begin to doubt themselves more then the sociopath.  I would say up until 6 weeks ago, when they found out what Casey's true plans to save herself this time, they were hooked into her lies. 

Yes.  Charles Boyer did that to Ingrid Bergman in the movie "Gaslight."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 12:44:35 PM
JP better overrule. This is too important to keep out. Fingers crossed, toes crossed, knocking on wood.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:44:52 PM
Sidebar, another objection by defense about the myspace 7/3 letter coming in

It will...no worries

JP might say it has no relevance to the charges.

I hope he lets it in!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:45:11 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 12:45:24 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.

I agree.  Also, a liar begins to hate the one lied to and the hatred grows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:45:33 PM
Tweets from CFNews13 reporters in Court Room:  Needs link, please.  MB

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy went to Universal Studios July 2008 to talk to Casey about money issues. She went to guest services to see her daughter.
2 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Jury seems to be hanging on Cindy's words. All looking at her while she testifies.
5 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy says she talked to Casey everyday during the time frame after she last saw Caylee. She thought she knew where she was.
7 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy says Casey told her the new guy had a trust fund and a little boy 1 yr older than Caylee.
10 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy talking about Casey's boyfriend "Jefferey" and "Zanny" Cindy hasn't said if these people are real or not.
11 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:45:36 PM
CIndy did not post the picture depicted on her myspace, she didnt know how to

Wow
What picture was depicted and who placed it there?

Im trying to remember & good question

I guess the new argument is that the picture is there, but it had to be when the judge first ruled on it so I doubt the judge will reverse his decision


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 12:45:52 PM
My gosh...the details KC went into - truly a sociopath!



Not much different that the details Cindy is regurgitating.  Who the hell remembers that much crap?
Beth Holloway would .
I'm sure this was running in her head over & over for three years now ..


 ::rhino::

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Magic Eyes on May 28, 2011, 12:45:56 PM
Back from recess, Cindy is taking the stand. Side bar.  George looks calm in the gallery.  Linda is questioning Cindy.  After 4 or 5 nights of sleeping with the teddy bear, Cindy noticed the teddy bear was missing.  Someone had taken the teddy bear our of the house.  WE HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS BEFORE.  Casey was still staying in Tampa with Zanny and Zanny was released from the hospital and took Zanny to the Hard Rock Motel.  Cindy was expecting Casey to come home that Thursday but she never showed up.  Casey called and said she had to be de-briefed and would be home later that night, that never happened.  Cindy thought Casey and Jeff Hopkins were dating this whole time and Casey told her that Jeff wanted to see Casey, so she was going to take Caylee to Jeff Hopkins and his son Zachary.  Cindy never met Jeff or Zach but she was supposed to meet him a few times, it just never happened from 2007 to 2008.  Jeff and Casey started out as friends but turned into someone Casey would marry.  Christmas of 2007, she was supposed to meet with Jeff's mom and Zachary but that never happened.  They went to see Santa in 2007 but Zachary, had an asthma attack and could not come.  Cindy says that night Casey and Jeff were gonna meet for dinner and then come home Friday, that never happened.  Jeff was rich and didn't have to work if he didn't want to.  Jeff had a suite and Casey and Caylee were gonna spend the night with Jeff at the motel.  Cindy thought that was ok because Casey was a grown woman and Caylee was her daughter.  Caylee was Casey's daughter and she didn't interfere with Casey's life.  Cindy had vacation again she had to use or lose, Cindy was off June 30 thru July 4, 2008.  She went back on Monday, July 5, 2008.  So Casey was at a party suite in a the Hard Rock in Orlando but she never came home for more clothes or anything.  Cindy had other things to do in her life than wait for Casey and Caylee to come home.  They were busy and went to the beach.  She talked to Casey once a day that whole time, she thought she knew where Casey and Caylee were.  Cindy thought, Casey was gonna head back to work on that Monday July 5, 2008 and Zanny was gonna keep Caylee.  Cindy told her that she was at a pool party event but she wasn't invited.  I am confused on the time line here.  Cindy had time off that whole time and Casey and Caylee were on Universal property 30 min drive but she couldn't see them.  Cindy decided to drive out to Universal on July 3rd, Cindy had issues and she really wanted do see Casey.  The issues she had were money issues involving Casey!!!!!!  Cindy left the bank and drove to Universal, parked and walked to the park and went to guest services.  She wanted to pick up Caylee.  She didn't tell Casey she was coming.  Cindy called Casey from guess services and Casey told her she was not there!!!!  She was NOW in Jacksonville, Florida.  Casey took Caylee there, following Jeff Hopkins to rekindle their love affair.  Casey didn't want to tell Cindy she was taking Caylee away again, so she didn't.  Cindy was in shock, she didn't know what to think, Casey had lied to her for the last couple of days.  She believed she was in Jacksonville but she didn't believe it at the same time.  She enlisted Lee on July 3, 2008 to find Casey.  She called a friend of Caseys in Jacksonville, Ryan Paesly and he hadn't seen Casey yet but they had plans to see him.  So now Cindy believed she was in Jacksonville.  So crazy!!!!!!  She asked Lee if he had spoken to Casey but he said no.  Cindy created her own my space account to try to get in touch with her.  Lee thought Casey wasn't in Jacksonville because of the chatter on my space, saying that Casey was gonna be downtown 4th of July weekend.  Lee found out where she might be in downtown Orlando.  Cindy was upset and felt betrayed.  Casey was posting pics on myspace that showed she was lying.  Cindy created the my space account to friend Casey and show her that she felt betrayed by her.  She wrote the My Space letter to Casey on July 3, 2008.  Linda is trying to get the My Space letter from Cindy in, defense objects.  Judge is reading it.  They are taking a side bar to discuss it.  I am going to post this now before it disappears and start a new post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 12:46:11 PM
JP better overrule. This is too important to keep out. Fingers crossed, toes crossed, knocking on wood.

What I'm curious about is how Cindy will explain it if it is brought in.  Remember what she said about the dead body in the damned car statement.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:46:24 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image37-5.png)

In every (albeit brief) shot of George, he looks angry, upset.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:46:28 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 12:46:32 PM
My gosh...the details KC went into - truly a sociopath!



Not much different that the details Cindy is regurgitating.  Who the hell remembers that much crap?
Beth Holloway would .
I'm sure this was running in her head over & over for three years now ..


Excellent point, Blonde ;)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:46:41 PM
I read it twice just now ... Everything in it was true as Cindy saw it at that time (lying, stealing) ... How can Byass keep that out?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 12:46:48 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/casey1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:46:52 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: I totally agree, I said from day one I thought Slore killed Caylee intentionally to spite Cindy and that her disdain for her mother was more powerful than any remote feelings of affection (not love) she had for her own precious angel. I agree about the teddy too-I can see slore doing that. I also think when Casey wanted to leave after the fight and Caylee was probably crying our for CIndy and can visualize her putting all that duct tape on her to stop her from reminding her that her daughter Caylee loved her grammie more possibly and felt very safe and secure with Jojo and Cindy and that was something slore would not stand for nor and also if Cindy had threatened to try and obtain custody of Caylee, she'd kill her out of spite and the mentality of possibly worrying that Cindy might succeed and if she (slore) couldn't have her nobody would......hope that makes sense. ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:47:02 PM
If I were the jury sitting there hearing about all this evidence and then not being able to see it I would be pissed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 12:47:08 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



Re-reading this now really sums up for me the whole sitution from Cindy's point of view at that time..and the reality is it appears to be very true.

I imagine Cindy is sitting up their today in the witness stand still wondering those same things..and still no concrete answers to her thoughts and questions..just more lies from her selfish daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:47:16 PM
Sidebar, another objection by defense about the myspace 7/3 letter coming in

It will...no worries

Sure it will - those are Cindy's words and very telling of her thoughts at the time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 12:48:19 PM
Why wouldn't the defense have brought up this case law in the pretrial motion to exclude Cindy's Myspace entry? The judge denied that motion so how is possible to object again?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:48:31 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 12:48:43 PM
Tweets from CFNews13 reporters in Court Room:

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy went to Universal Studios July 2008 to talk to Casey about money issues. She went to guest services to see her daughter.
2 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Jury seems to be hanging on Cindy's words. All looking at her while she testifies.
5 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy says she talked to Casey everyday during the time frame after she last saw Caylee. She thought she knew where she was.
7 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy says Casey told her the new guy had a trust fund and a little boy 1 yr older than Caylee.
10 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy talking about Casey's boyfriend "Jefferey" and "Zanny" Cindy hasn't said if these people are real or not.
11 minutes ago

Loca  - please we need the twitter link.  Don't post more of these without the link!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 12:48:50 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/casey1.jpg)

Blonde..and added to that ..Iam just a spiteful b!itch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:49:02 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: I totally agree, I said from day one I thought Slore killed Caylee intentionally to spite Cindy and that her disdain for her mother was more powerful than any remote feelings of affection (not love) she had for her own precious angel. I agree about the teddy too-I can see slore doing that. I also think when Casey wanted to leave after the fight and Caylee was probably crying our for CIndy and can visualize her putting all that duct tape on her to stop her from reminding her that her daughter Caylee loved her grammie more possibly and felt very safe and secure with Jojo and Cindy and that was something slore would not stand for nor and also if Cindy had threatened to try and obtain custody of Caylee, she'd kill her out of spite and the mentality of possibly worrying that Cindy might succeed and if she (slore) couldn't have her nobody would......hope that makes sense. ::MonkeyMad::



Even Cindy's mother said " she hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee" or something like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 28, 2011, 12:49:10 PM
Objection sustained in not allowing the myspace.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:49:20 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image37-5.png)

In every (albeit brief) shot of George, he looks angry, upset.
Earlier I noticed a girl sitting to the left of George ... and thought, when Byass gets up and starts questioning Cindy ... I'd scoot over ... He looks like he might start swinging!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:49:27 PM
Tweets from CFNews13 reporters in Court Room:

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy went to Universal Studios July 2008 to talk to Casey about money issues. She went to guest services to see her daughter.
2 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Jury seems to be hanging on Cindy's words. All looking at her while she testifies.
5 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy says she talked to Casey everyday during the time frame after she last saw Caylee. She thought she knew where she was.
7 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy says Casey told her the new guy had a trust fund and a little boy 1 yr older than Caylee.
10 minutes ago »

CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy talking about Casey's boyfriend "Jefferey" and "Zanny" Cindy hasn't said if these people are real or not.
11 minutes ago

Loca  - please we need the twitter link.  Don't post more of these without the link!
sorry I just cut npasted from thehinkymeter.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
O! M! G! I am so mad I could spit!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:49:29 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

I believe that temper tantrum we witnessed to today was mild compared to what Cindy & George dealt with her, but yes they enabled her & then made excuses for her which actually encouraged Casey's deplorable behavior, lack of responsibility & sense of entitlement.   I believe also that many times as we know it Cindy & George did confront her but during this time I think they sensed something was wrong based on what we believe to know as their last argument over the stolen money/possible threat to get custody of Caylee.

As I anticipated objection was overruled


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:49:30 PM
CIndy did not post the picture depicted on her myspace, she didnt know how to

Wow
What picture was depicted and who placed it there?

Im trying to remember & good question

I guess the new argument is that the picture is there, but it had to be when the judge first ruled on it so I doubt the judge will reverse his decision

Wonder if it was that framed, stickered pic of Caylee I mentioned the other day, the one that looks like it was collected as evidence at the remains site. Wouldn't that be a pizzer.

I think KC made several "visits" to Caylee on Suburban and brought her "gifts" from the A's home. Some sick and twisted beotch...imo



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:49:32 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
I'd love to see the faces of the jurors going threw this....
What are the jurors thinking......
 ::MonkeyShovel::


I'm sure their heads are spinning.

Ya, with Cindy saying at this point of being on the stand she knows casey's lieing about a few things.
Can you imagine (cindy/george) been looking for zanny til 6 weeks ago, then finding out then Caylee died on 6/16/08???

Lieing for all this time........an omg moment?
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
That was a surprise that JB sustained that being included.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:50:56 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

I believe that temper tantrum we witnessed to today was mild compared to what Cindy & George dealt with her, but yes they enabled her & then made excuses for her which actually encouraged Casey's deplorable behavior, lack of responsibility & sense of entitlement.   I believe also that many times as we know it Cindy & George did confront her but during this time I think they sensed something was wrong based on what we believe to know as their last argument over the stolen money/possible threat to get custody of Caylee.

As I anticipated objection was overruled

Did they post the myspace or not?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:51:05 PM
O! M! G! I am so mad I could spit!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Didn't think he would let it in. No relevance to the charges.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 12:51:22 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: I totally agree, I said from day one I thought Slore killed Caylee intentionally to spite Cindy and that her disdain for her mother was more powerful than any remote feelings of affection (not love) she had for her own precious angel. I agree about the teddy too-I can see slore doing that. I also think when Casey wanted to leave after the fight and Caylee was probably crying our for CIndy and can visualize her putting all that duct tape on her to stop her from reminding her that her daughter Caylee loved her grammie more possibly and felt very safe and secure with Jojo and Cindy and that was something slore would not stand for nor and also if Cindy had threatened to try and obtain custody of Caylee, she'd kill her out of spite and the mentality of possibly worrying that Cindy might succeed and if she (slore) couldn't have her nobody would......hope that makes sense. ::MonkeyMad::



And maybe that was part of her joy during those days - knowing it was driving her mom crazy, and that she was pulling the strings.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:51:31 PM
Wonder why the judge won't let it in?

reference to taking a lot of money - that has not been admitted in court yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on May 28, 2011, 12:51:41 PM
If I were the jury sitting there hearing about all this evidence and then not being able to see it I would be pissed
Me too!  And wondering what damning evidence the Dufense didn't want me to see!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 12:51:47 PM
LOCA - If you got from the HinkyMeter then we need the link.  Do not post without a link back again please.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:52:04 PM
Sidebar, another objection by defense about the myspace 7/3 letter coming in

It will...no worries

I guess we needed to worry a bit!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:52:14 PM
O! M! G! I am so mad I could spit!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Didn't think he would let it in. No relevance to the charges.

That disappoints me personally.

But I think Perry had a valid reason for his ruling. I trust his judgment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

They should have chloroformed KC. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:52:29 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


Maybe it's what she told Lee (which I really hope Lee gets to introduce in court):

Maybe I'm just a spiteful b*tch!



 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: I totally agree, I said from day one I thought Slore killed Caylee intentionally to spite Cindy and that her disdain for her mother was more powerful than any remote feelings of affection (not love) she had for her own precious angel. I agree about the teddy too-I can see slore doing that. I also think when Casey wanted to leave after the fight and Caylee was probably crying our for CIndy and can visualize her putting all that duct tape on her to stop her from reminding her that her daughter Caylee loved her grammie more possibly and felt very safe and secure with Jojo and Cindy and that was something slore would not stand for nor and also if Cindy had threatened to try and obtain custody of Caylee, she'd kill her out of spite and the mentality of possibly worrying that Cindy might succeed and if she (slore) couldn't have her nobody would......hope that makes sense. ::MonkeyMad::



And maybe that was part of her joy during those days - knowing it was driving her mom crazy, and that she was pulling the strings.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:52:40 PM
That was a surprise that JB sustained that being included.

Im flabbergasted...there has to be something to this, maybe having to establish something more


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:52:41 PM
Do they break at 1 for lunch? my real life wont leave me alone.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 12:53:16 PM
Do they break at 1 for lunch? my real life wont leave me alone.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Should be done for the day at 1:00


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
O! M! G! I am so mad I could spit!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Didn't think he would let it in. No relevance to the charges.
Ah ha.  Okay, that makes sense.  Thx west!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 12:54:01 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: I totally agree, I said from day one I thought Slore killed Caylee intentionally to spite Cindy and that her disdain for her mother was more powerful than any remote feelings of affection (not love) she had for her own precious angel. I agree about the teddy too-I can see slore doing that. I also think when Casey wanted to leave after the fight and Caylee was probably crying our for CIndy and can visualize her putting all that duct tape on her to stop her from reminding her that her daughter Caylee loved her grammie more possibly and felt very safe and secure with Jojo and Cindy and that was something slore would not stand for nor and also if Cindy had threatened to try and obtain custody of Caylee, she'd kill her out of spite and the mentality of possibly worrying that Cindy might succeed and if she (slore) couldn't have her nobody would......hope that makes sense. ::MonkeyMad::



I think that what you just posted is exactly what happened, and it breaks my heart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:54:07 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


Maybe it's what she told Lee (which I really hope Lee gets to introduce in court):

Maybe I'm just a spiteful b*tch!




 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: I totally agree, I said from day one I thought Slore killed Caylee intentionally to spite Cindy and that her disdain for her mother was more powerful than any remote feelings of affection (not love) she had for her own precious angel. I agree about the teddy too-I can see slore doing that. I also think when Casey wanted to leave after the fight and Caylee was probably crying our for CIndy and can visualize her putting all that duct tape on her to stop her from reminding her that her daughter Caylee loved her grammie more possibly and felt very safe and secure with Jojo and Cindy and that was something slore would not stand for nor and also if Cindy had threatened to try and obtain custody of Caylee, she'd kill her out of spite and the mentality of possibly worrying that Cindy might succeed and if she (slore) couldn't have her nobody would......hope that makes sense. ::MonkeyMad::



And maybe that was part of her joy during those days - knowing it was driving her mom crazy, and that she was pulling the strings.

I'm sorry - I posted inside the quote - see section BBM


Maybe it's what she told Lee (which I really hope Lee gets to introduce in court):

Maybe I'm just a spiteful b*tch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 12:54:11 PM
Do they break at 1 for lunch? my real life wont leave me alone.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Me too!  I thought this would be over a noon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 12:54:23 PM
Objection sustained in not allowing the myspace.

Why?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:54:46 PM
If cindy would have mentioned the fight about Shirleys money being stolen..it would have been admitted. Cindy mentions the theft.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:54:48 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Again ITA.......parents in this situation are in between a rock and a hard place, if they push too hard they risk alienating their daughter who in turn would punish them by not allowing them to see Caylee (they knew her well enough to know this would be the reaction), so they just submit and pray for the best. I have seen this in other families although NOTHING to the extent here, and the grandparents do just what the Anthonys did, and sometimes they do lose the opportunity to see their grandchild due to the blackened heart of their own child


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:55:02 PM
LOCA - If you got from the HinkyMeter then we need the link.  Do not post without a link back again please.
ok klass sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:55:04 PM
O! M! G! I am so mad I could spit!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Didn't think he would let it in. No relevance to the charges.
Ah ha.  Okay, that makes sense.  Thx west!

West, the myspace letter was already ruled on in a pretrial hearing & CJBP at that time ruled that it could come in


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:55:09 PM
O! M! G! I am so mad I could spit!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Didn't think he would let it in. No relevance to the charges.

That disappoints me personally.

But I think Perry had a valid reason for his ruling. I trust his judgment.

Disappoints me too and I hope so  All the things he is denying shows the person Casey really is. Like I said before they are protecting Casey's real personality from coming into court and that is not fair!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sdb on May 28, 2011, 12:55:16 PM
I picked up on KC stealing the teddy from Cindy some time ago I believe thru the letters Cindy sent to the jail. Cindy said it gave her comfort but it seems like KC replied her usual "me too". So I'm not sure, maybe it was a jailhouse visit?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 28, 2011, 12:55:19 PM
That was a surprise that JB sustained that being included.


Indeed...pissed me off  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 12:55:39 PM
Do they break at 1 for lunch? my real life wont leave me alone.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Only half a day today, so they leave at 1 until Tuesday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 12:55:58 PM
If cindy would have mentioned the fight about Shirleys money being stolen..it would have been admitted. Cindy mentions the theft.

Do you think they'll call Shirley Pleasea to the stand to testify to the stolen check?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 12:56:01 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:56:11 PM
That was a surprise that JB sustained that being included.

Im flabbergasted...there has to be something to this, maybe having to establish something more

I am guessing because of the references to the money which has not been established yet. Maybe later they can get it in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:56:19 PM
I see natisha lance from the nancy grace show in the gallery.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 12:56:24 PM
That was a surprise that JB sustained that being included.

Im flabbergasted...there has to be something to this, maybe having to establish something more


I'm furious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: west941 on May 28, 2011, 12:56:26 PM
O! M! G! I am so mad I could spit!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Didn't think he would let it in. No relevance to the charges.
Ah ha.  Okay, that makes sense.  Thx west!

West, the myspace letter was already ruled on in a pretrial hearing & CJBP at that time ruled that it could come in

Same reason TL texts couldn't come in that was states evidence too. maybe the defense just found away to word their objections better this time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 12:56:57 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image40-2.png)

A shot of some people in the balcony.

I have never seen the camera shoot up there until now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 12:57:06 PM
Sidebar, another objection by defense about the myspace 7/3 letter coming in

It will...no worries

I guess we needed to worry a bit!

This was already ruled on, I think something had to be established, not sure what happened


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 12:57:13 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.
I think she's praying...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sdb on May 28, 2011, 12:57:13 PM
I missed it. What was excluded/sustained?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 12:57:15 PM
I have a feeling this will end with being in recess until Tuesday morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:57:16 PM
Do they break at 1 for lunch? my real life wont leave me alone.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Only half a day today, so they leave at 1 until Tuesday.
Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 12:57:26 PM
If cindy would have mentioned the fight about Shirleys money being stolen..it would have been admitted. Cindy mentions the theft.

Do you think they'll call Shirley Pleasea to the stand to testify to the stolen check?

She is on the prosecution's list.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 12:57:31 PM
The gallery must be where they keep the wider seats.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 12:57:52 PM
if cindy was texting ... couldnt the judge see it ? he is sitting close to her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:57:59 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: I totally agree, I said from day one I thought Slore killed Caylee intentionally to spite Cindy and that her disdain for her mother was more powerful than any remote feelings of affection (not love) she had for her own precious angel. I agree about the teddy too-I can see slore doing that. I also think when Casey wanted to leave after the fight and Caylee was probably crying our for CIndy and can visualize her putting all that duct tape on her to stop her from reminding her that her daughter Caylee loved her grammie more possibly and felt very safe and secure with Jojo and Cindy and that was something slore would not stand for nor and also if Cindy had threatened to try and obtain custody of Caylee, she'd kill her out of spite and the mentality of possibly worrying that Cindy might succeed and if she (slore) couldn't have her nobody would......hope that makes sense. ::MonkeyMad::



And maybe that was part of her joy during those days - knowing it was driving her mom crazy, and that she was pulling the strings.

No doubt, the depths of her evil know absolutely no bounds.......I am sure she enjoyed torturing them this way, and the fact that she (slore) now had the control.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 12:58:05 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.
I think she's praying...


Ahhh.... I forgot , do we know what religion Cindy practices? A rosary perhaps?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 12:58:19 PM
Over for the day until Tues.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 12:58:53 PM
Yay!!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 12:58:55 PM
yeah the hurdles that couldn't be cleared to work on monday because mumbles had to blow his foghorn!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 12:59:03 PM
Beth Karas on HLN just reporting Cindy had to ask them to please take her granddaughters picture down...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 12:59:08 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.



unfortunately that seemed to be the pattern in the household....don't upset KC ::MonkeyMad::  I agree.....with your statement


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 12:59:40 PM
Will recess for the day and reconvene on Tuesday morning, I am assuming at 9am.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NewfieMonkey on May 28, 2011, 12:59:45 PM
Ugh!  Guess I'll not be getting anything done on Tuesday!  See you then monks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 01:00:23 PM
Anthonys attorney presenting a motion

Defense is objecting, Lippman will appear Tues morning


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 01:00:29 PM
What motion did Lippmann file?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 01:00:31 PM
Will recess for the day and reconvene on Tuesday morning, I am assuming at 9am.

It will be 8:30am on Tuesday not 9:00am ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 01:00:54 PM
Whoa... Lippman has a motion?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 01:01:57 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/28057538/detail.html
Talk Of Caylee's Things Brings Cindy To Tears
Posted: 8:45 am EDT May 28, 2011Updated: 12:34 pm EDT May 28, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy, testified on day 16 of Casey's murder trial on Saturday. Cindy was brought to tears as she described Caylee Anthony's baby blanket to prosecutor Linda Drane-Burdick.

Casey walked into the courtroom smiling, wearing a light blue, beaded sweater and she had her hair pulled back into a bun.
Cindy Anthony described the layout of the family home Saturday during testimony. She also became emotional when she described a playhouse built for 2-year-old Caylee.

As Cindy tried to keep herself composed, she said, "I'm sorry."

Drane-Burdick asked her if she needed a minute and Cindy said, "Yes."

Casey sat stone-faced as her mother cried and at one point shook her head "no."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 01:02:00 PM
Cindy probably posted about the money casey stole from Cindy's mom....
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 01:02:05 PM
Why are her attorneys going back there with her....hmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 01:02:12 PM
Cindy has been looking for Zanny from July, 2008, until about six weeks ago. 

I thought the prosecution would ask, "why did you stop?"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Magic Eyes on May 28, 2011, 01:02:23 PM
Back from side bar, Cindy is on the stand, Linda is questioning her.  The My Space is not entered into evidence.  Cindy asked Casey why she never responded to the My Space and she thought Cindy was being hard on her.  Cindy thought it was private between her and Casey and Casey told her it was private.  Side bar...grrrrr

Why didn't they get the My Space in?  I will never understand that.  It was posted publicly, everyone has seen it, why can't the jury see it.  The judge ruled against the contents being known to the jury.  I hope they figure out a way to get it in.  Casey is calm listening to her mom talk about all her lying and Baez is smirking as if he is happy she is telling about all the lying Casey was doing.  When is anyone going to tell us that Casey went down the rabbit hole and was never seen again?  NOT ONE SINGLE BIT OF THIS MAKES SENSE!!!!!  What can the jury be thinking?  They need to let all of this in, it is the truth of exactly what happened.  I think the Tony texts were relevant and this My Space post by Cindy was definitely relevant.

Back from sidebar, the judge is excusing the jury for the day.  What a waste, a huge, waste of a day. 

Cindy leaves as a witness.  The scheduled a hearing with Mr. Lippman, Tuesday morning, he is the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony.  Judge is going to decide on the Grand Jury testimony of George Anthony on Tuesday Morning.  Court is adjourned till Tuesday Morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 01:02:25 PM
Good grief!  The details just never end!

KC must have been having a really good time messing with her mom and dad's minds!



This is the tool sociopaths use to keep people in their lives confused and hooked in at the same time..it's called gaslighting..and Casey has raised this to an art form !

It goes beyond lies to mess with people's heads so they begin to doubt themselves more then the sociopath.  I would say up until 6 weeks ago, when they found out what Casey's true plans to save herself this time, they were hooked into her lies. 

Is the term taken from that old movie, "Gaslight"-starring Ingrid Bergman & Chas. Boyer set in London around the turn of the century when gaslights were still used?  In this movie, that is exactly what Chas. Boyer did to Ingrid Bergman, his new wealthy bride. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 01:02:26 PM
Hmm..duhfense just followed Casey out of the courtroom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 01:02:38 PM
Good morning monkeys---

Cindy lied about the evening of June 15. We know that Shirley Plesea told Cindy about the money from the bank account at the lunch at Shirley's home.  We know about the fight Cindy had with Casey on that night, the one where Lee said Cindy tried to throttle Casey.  Cindy is still lying---Same ol' same ol'.

I don't think Cindy lied.  I don't think those questions were asked of Cindy.  Maybe Linda doesn't want to disclose it....or, more likely, Linda doesn't want to disclose is right now.

Linda is trying to lay the "foundation" right now, IMO, and will "fill-in" the foundation as time goes on.  This will not be the only time Cindy is on the stand.



Except Cindy said they had a very pleasant but emotional evening--the emotion was caused by seeing  what they thought might be the last pics of Mr. Pleasea.  That is not a truthful description of the evening.

Ex-fiancée Jesse Grund alleged Casey Anthony, mother fought
22 December 2008 @ 01:43 pm EDT


The ex-fiancée of Casey Anthony alleged that she and her mother got into a big argument the night before Casey's daughter Caylee went missing.

Jesse Grund told Sherriff's investigators about the incident in documents released by the State Attorney's Office in late November, saying he learned of it from Casey's brother Lee Anthony.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said, after a review of documents by Central Florida 13 news.

<snipped>

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081222/fianc-eacutejesse-grund-alleged-casey-anthony-mother-fought.htm


Why didn't the prosecutor question Cindy in regards to Jesse's claim ... Jesse's claim that contradicts Cindy's claim of a "special evening" on May 15th ... the day prior to Caylee's disappearance?

George was questioned regarding Casey's claims of sexual abuse and assisting in disposing of Caylee's remains.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 01:02:47 PM
No barbeque for you skank !!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 01:02:52 PM
her attorneys went in a room with her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 01:03:01 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think during the sidebars, Bozo is flirting with the court recorder...???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 01:03:25 PM
Why are her attorneys going back there with her....hmmm
Time for a plea deal?

I keep hoping...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 01:03:25 PM
Cindy probably posted about the money casey stole from Cindy's mom....
 ::MonkeyShovel::

Yeah, but this was already ruled on that it could come in so Im a bit perplexed what the issue is now...I'm not sure if it cant come in now at all, or if something had to be established.   If it doesnt come in at all Im shocked & very  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2011, 01:03:37 PM
Did KC take the teddybear from Cindy so she couldn't sleep with it anymore?

I wondered the same thing,.....I don't recall hearing that the teddy went missing... wish Linda would have asked her if she ever found the teddy

I think Casey took the bear as another act to spite Cindy, just as she killed Caylee to spite Cindy.
::rhino::


 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: I totally agree, I said from day one I thought Slore killed Caylee intentionally to spite Cindy and that her disdain for her mother was more powerful than any remote feelings of affection (not love) she had for her own precious angel. I agree about the teddy too-I can see slore doing that. I also think when Casey wanted to leave after the fight and Caylee was probably crying our for CIndy and can visualize her putting all that duct tape on her to stop her from reminding her that her daughter Caylee loved her grammie more possibly and felt very safe and secure with Jojo and Cindy and that was something slore would not stand for nor and also if Cindy had threatened to try and obtain custody of Caylee, she'd kill her out of spite and the mentality of possibly worrying that Cindy might succeed and if she (slore) couldn't have her nobody would......hope that makes sense. ::MonkeyMad::



I think that what you just posted is exactly what happened, and it breaks my heart.

Mine too, Caylee deserved that love and affection even though the A's did enable her-they NEVER deserved to be deprived of their grandchild especially since IMO they were Caylee's source of true unconditional love, and also provided for her.

I just can't take anymore today - going to the beach to say a prayer, and remember how blessed I am after watching and hearing all this. God Bless all of you who have helped keep me up to date while I was working and unable to read everything, and I hope you all have a wonderful and safe Memorial day wknd and hug our babies and grandbabies even tighter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 01:03:39 PM
HLN showing Tony Lazzaro's testimony from this morning now if anyone missed it as I did...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 01:03:42 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.
I think she's praying...


Ahhh.... I forgot , do we know what religion Cindy practices? A rosary perhaps?

I am guessing Baptist, as the memorial was at First Baptist Church of Orlando..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 01:03:43 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...
Wonder if her and Baez were texting each other? Why is this allowed in the courtroom anyway?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 01:04:05 PM
Why are her attorneys going back there with her....hmmm
Time for a plea deal?

I keep hoping...

Im not, I want that slore to get nothing less than LWOP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
RAW VIDEO: Angry Casey Cries As Mom Walks Out Of Court
Casey Anthony became angry and cried as her mother, Cindy, walked out of the courtroom on Saturday. There is no audio during this video because the court was in recess. (05/28/11)

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 28, 2011, 01:04:22 PM
Good grief!  The details just never end!

KC must have been having a really good time messing with her mom and dad's minds!



This is the tool sociopaths use to keep people in their lives confused and hooked in at the same time..it's called gaslighting..and Casey has raised this to an art form !

It goes beyond lies to mess with people's heads so they begin to doubt themselves more then the sociopath.  I would say up until 6 weeks ago, when they found out what Casey's true plans to save herself this time, they were hooked into her lies. 
t
Yes.  Charles Boyer did that to Ingrid Bergman in the movie "Gaslight."

I just posted about that fabulous movie!   ::MonkeyCool::  Everyone should rent it if they haven't seen it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:04:42 PM
Anthonys attorney presenting a motion

Defense is objecting, Lippman will appear Tues morning

Do we know what the motion is for?  I am so confused

Where did KC and the dream team go? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:04:58 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.



unfortunately that seemed to be the pattern in the household....don't upset KC ::MonkeyMad::  I agree.....with your statement

IMO, it seems like KC acted like a demon for years and the whole family had to walk on egg shells...geesh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 01:05:09 PM

Why didn't the prosecutor question Cindy in regards to Jesse's claim ... Jesse's claim that contradicts Cindy's claim of a "special evening" on May 15th ... the day prior to Caylee's disappearance?

George was questioned regarding Casey's claims of sexual abuse and assisting in disposing of Caylee's remains.

Janet

I believe they will ask Jesse that directly and then most likely bring Cindy back on the stand. That is the way I would do it so it would be more powerful plus show that Cindy was covering up things. The problem might arise that KC told Jesse about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 01:05:25 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think during the sidebars, Bozo is flirting with the court recorder...???

Myself and a co-worker commented on that earlier ....wonder if it pisses ICA off? LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 01:05:43 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Turbo.on what grounds would have they had Casey arrested during that timeframe?

She was over 21 years old, Caylee was her daughter, I don't think they could have even requested a wellness check or a driveby check because they didn't know where she was..but she was still communicating with them.  I just don't know during that timefrme anything else they could have done.  LE picking up the car..where?  Everytime Cindy talked to Casey, Casey said she was in a different location ..the State would not have put out an APB  for an adult who was in communication with her family but was not going to see them.

Unless you have dealt extensively with sociopaths or known one intimately that uses these tools of lying and gaslighting it is hard to comprehend...but believe me..they are able to make others they are close to wish they had never questioned them about anything.  They are able to make people around them believe they are all wrong and they are right.  It is a very complicated web they weave..by all indications

Cindy couldn't just kick her out without getting custody of Caylee first..Cindy was trying to protect Caylee.

Casey murdered Caylee and only Casey is responsible for that murder.  To blame Cindy or George for this is only helping Casey.  Everytime someone points their finger in that direction Casey gets a little sympathy and a repreive....................she deserves no sympathy..no repreive.  Rather Cindy or the man in the moon was Casey's mother...Casey would have been a socipath..it's not like they care one day and don't the next.  They are born more or less missing the empathy button..most never kill anyone..

I still believe the only Evil in that house was Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 01:06:23 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think during the sidebars, Bozo is flirting with the court recorder...???

Myself and a co-worker commented on that earlier ....wonder if it pisses ICA off? LOL

Haha what a jerk he is.  He thinks he is Rico Suave!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: dani on May 28, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
Sorry if someone already posted this or linked to it -

What was Cindy's MySpace message?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...
Wonder if her and Baez were texting each other? Why is this allowed in the courtroom anyway?

I seriously doubt she was texting while on the stand.
When she's in the gallery she probably does text..but not to Bozo anymore.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 01:07:19 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.



unfortunately that seemed to be the pattern in the household....don't upset KC ::MonkeyMad::  I agree.....with your statement

IMO, it seems like KC acted like a demon for years and the whole family had to walk on egg shells...geesh!

Honestly, I bet they would be relieved to have her in jail for the rest of her life.  They'll be able to find her at all times, she might actually get some college in, she'll have a job, they won't have to pick up her stinky car or donate gas to the dingy-KC fund.  She won't be out to kill GA and CA, and visits will be monitored so she can't accuse them of any hanky panky.  It'll probably cost a lot less money to send her funds for commissary than to pay for her party stuff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 01:07:29 PM
I know it's sad that the anthonys lost caylee. But for once in I dont know how many years ! they are able to sleep without any casey drama. No money missing... no stress as it relates to her being  a drama queen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 01:07:52 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 01:07:54 PM
Whether or not Cindy is lying, or will lie, is very, very important to Justice.  In that regard, it is about Cindy, right now.

I think Linda has been handling Cindy very well.  I don't believe she has lied- I mean she is telling her side of things as the truth as she knew it during that time frame. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 01:09:58 PM
just got back...

quick update?   how did Cindy do?   did she do justice to Caylee???

thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

I believe that was determined to be another Cindy Anthony, Im not positive though


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Turbo.on what grounds would have they had Casey arrested during that timeframe?

She was over 21 years old, Caylee was her daughter, I don't think they could have even requested a wellness check or a driveby check because they didn't know where she was..but she was still communicating with them.  I just don't know during that timefrme anything else they could have done.  LE picking up the car..where?  Everytime Cindy talked to Casey, Casey said she was in a different location ..the State would not have put out an APB  for an adult who was in communication with her family but was not going to see them.

Unless you have dealt extensively with sociopaths or known one intimately that uses these tools of lying and gaslighting it is hard to comprehend...but believe me..they are able to make others they are close to wish they had never questioned them about anything.  They are able to make people around them believe they are all wrong and they are right.  It is a very complicated web they weave..by all indications

Cindy couldn't just kick her out without getting custody of Caylee first..Cindy was trying to protect Caylee.

Casey murdered Caylee and only Casey is responsible for that murder.  To blame Cindy or George for this is only helping Casey.  Everytime someone points their finger in that direction Casey gets a little sympathy and a repreive....................she deserves no sympathy..no repreive.  Rather Cindy or the man in the moon was Casey's mother...Casey would have been a socipath..it's not like they care one day and don't the next.  They are born more or less missing the empathy button..most never kill anyone..

I still believe the only Evil in that house was Casey.

I, too, believe the evil in the house was Casey.

Wonder if LDB in closing argument will point out "gaslighting"?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 01:10:32 PM
Sidebar, another objection by defense about the myspace 7/3 letter coming in

It will...no worries

I guess we needed to worry a bit!

I don't think any of us are sure.  Have to leave it up to the Judge and hope he is sure.

This was already ruled on, I think something had to be established, not sure what happened


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:10:54 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

I believe that was determined to be another Cindy Anthony, Im not positive though

Yes, it was someone else - a younger female.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 28, 2011, 01:11:07 PM
Did tony get on witness stand 2day? If so what happen? Did he mention that it was lee that tried to feel her up. And that casey never told tony that george molested her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 01:11:09 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...
Wonder if her and Baez were texting each other? Why is this allowed in the courtroom anyway?

I seriously doubt she was texting while on the stand.
When she's in the gallery she probably does text..but not to Bozo anymore.

I doubt it also, but it has sure looked like texting to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 01:11:42 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

I believe that was determined to be another Cindy Anthony, Im not positive though
That would make sense as I don't think Cindy would be able to retain her job. IDK tho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 01:12:14 PM
Did tony get on witness stand 2day? If so what happen? Did he mention that it was lee that tried to feel her up. And that casey never told tony that george molested her?


HLN playing Tony's testimony today right now....with commercials....ughhhhh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 01:13:25 PM

Why didn't the prosecutor question Cindy in regards to Jesse's claim ... Jesse's claim that contradicts Cindy's claim of a "special evening" on May 15th ... the day prior to Caylee's disappearance?

George was questioned regarding Casey's claims of sexual abuse and assisting in disposing of Caylee's remains.

Janet

I believe they will ask Jesse that directly and then most likely bring Cindy back on the stand. That is the way I would do it so it would be more powerful plus show that Cindy was covering up things. The problem might arise that KC told Jesse about it.

That makes sense.

Jesse Grund's testimony should be interesting.

Janet

+++++

Interview With Ex-Fiance Reveals Sordid Sex Claim, Violence In Home
POSTED: 6:28 am EDT April 9, 2009
UPDATED: 8:21 pm EDT April 9, 2009


<snipped>

But in a newly released interview between investigators and Casey Anthony's ex-fiance Jesse Grund, he claimed she told him her brother made sexual advances toward her.

"Uhm, Casey uh, and Lee were at the house alone together and Casey, and Lee attempted to have sex with her," Grund said to investigators on Sept. 8, 2008. "My impression was that somehow he was trying to pressure her into it somehow."

<snipped>

http://www.wesh.com/news/19135484/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:13:36 PM
Whether or not Cindy is lying, or will lie, is very, very important to Justice.  In that regard, it is about Cindy, right now.

I think Linda has been handling Cindy very well.  I don't believe she has lied- I mean she is telling her side of things as the truth as she knew it during that time frame. 

I agree...and maybe she tried to throw in a nice thing, here and there: i.e., KC bought doorknob protectors (well, maybe she bout them, but with who's money?)

Basically, Cindy is telling the truth and that's all need to be done....just hope Cindy has the stamina to continue it.

The real problem is going to be with Baez.  Hope Lippman and George are giving her the strength to not let Baez get the better of her.  If Baez pulls his bullying tactics on Cindy (and I believe he will) that will be the final straw with Baez wrt the jury having respect for him.

Go ahead Baez!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:14:12 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

That was another Cindy Anthony, from what I remember, a black lady, IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 01:14:15 PM
Casey Anthony News13

Motion will be heard Tuesday at 8:30am to start next week.

https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

(Referring to Lippman's motion. Baez said he would have an objection to it.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:15:05 PM
Can't wait to find out what that motion is that Lippman has filed and that will be argued at 8:30 a.m. Tuesday morning!!

I think Linda has a lot more to cover with Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 01:16:39 PM
Linda is not finished with Cindy yet.  Way more to go.  The state usually nits things in the butt, so to speak.  Bet Linda with address these things after everything else... Would make sense.
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:17:02 PM
Casey Anthony News13

Motion will be heard Tuesday at 8:30am to start next week.

https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

(Referring to Lippman's motion. Baez said he would have an objection to it.)


Of course, when has he not had an objection to something?  Such a putz.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:17:42 PM
So, now that we know Tony says KC didn't tell him that George molested KC, and we know that Jessee doesn't say that either, where is the defense's backup that George did that?  KC's word won't carry weight.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 01:18:42 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

Um...you sure that's the right Cynthia Anthony? I do see where someone by that name was in a lot of trouble in 2004, they were charged 2x with prostitution and lewdness, and a few other things. Think it's a different person. I can't picture this Cindy Anthony doing that...besides how much drama can one family take. We would have heard about it a long time ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 01:19:33 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

Um...you sure that's the right Cynthia Anthony? I do see where someone by that name was in a lot of trouble in 2004, they were charged 2x with prostitution and lewdness, and a few other things. Think it's a different person. I can't picture this Cindy Anthony doing that...besides how much drama can one family take. We would have heard about it a long time ago.


That was determined to be a different Cynthia Anthony...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 28, 2011, 01:19:35 PM
Yeah but has the jury heard tony say that casey told him lee tried to feel her up. And never said to tony that george molested her???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 01:19:42 PM

Why didn't the prosecutor question Cindy in regards to Jesse's claim ... Jesse's claim that contradicts Cindy's claim of a "special evening" on May 15th ... the day prior to Caylee's disappearance?

George was questioned regarding Casey's claims of sexual abuse and assisting in disposing of Caylee's remains.

Janet

I believe they will ask Jesse that directly and then most likely bring Cindy back on the stand. That is the way I would do it so it would be more powerful plus show that Cindy was covering up things. The problem might arise that KC told Jesse about it.

Cindy was not asked directly by Linda about the money stealing from her mother and family, nor about the argument.  Linda, IMO, has instructed Caindy she will ask her about those things as evidence and other people's testimony appears.  Until Shirley Pleasa gets on the stand and says she stole my monsy and then the bank statements etc come into play..Cindy recounting that is heresay from her mother.  They have to establish the facts first through the first person involvement..not what someone else was told..Baez would be objecting all over that..and he would win that one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bikerbev on May 28, 2011, 01:19:55 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069
That's a different Cindy..different birthday and skin color.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 01:20:53 PM

Why didn't the prosecutor question Cindy in regards to Jesse's claim ... Jesse's claim that contradicts Cindy's claim of a "special evening" on May 15th ... the day prior to Caylee's disappearance?

George was questioned regarding Casey's claims of sexual abuse and assisting in disposing of Caylee's remains.

Janet

I believe they will ask Jesse that directly and then most likely bring Cindy back on the stand. That is the way I would do it so it would be more powerful plus show that Cindy was covering up things. The problem might arise that KC told Jesse about it.

Cindy was not asked directly by Linda about the money stealing from her mother and family, nor about the argument.  Linda, IMO, has instructed Caindy she will ask her about those things as evidence and other people's testimony appears.  Until Shirley Pleasa gets on the stand and says she stole my monsy and then the bank statements etc come into play..Cindy recounting that is heresay from her mother.  They have to establish the facts first through the first person involvement..not what someone else was told..Baez would be objecting all over that..and he would win that one.


EXACTLY!!! I believe we will hear it ...all in due time... JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 01:21:27 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Turbo.on what grounds would have they had Casey arrested during that timeframe?

She was over 21 years old, Caylee was her daughter, I don't think they could have even requested a wellness check or a driveby check because they didn't know where she was..but she was still communicating with them.  I just don't know during that timefrme anything else they could have done.  LE picking up the car..where?  Everytime Cindy talked to Casey, Casey said she was in a different location ..the State would not have put out an APB  for an adult who was in communication with her family but was not going to see them.

Unless you have dealt extensively with sociopaths or known one intimately that uses these tools of lying and gaslighting it is hard to comprehend...but believe me..they are able to make others they are close to wish they had never questioned them about anything.  They are able to make people around them believe they are all wrong and they are right.  It is a very complicated web they weave..by all indications

Cindy couldn't just kick her out without getting custody of Caylee first..Cindy was trying to protect Caylee.

Casey murdered Caylee and only Casey is responsible for that murder.  To blame Cindy or George for this is only helping Casey.  Everytime someone points their finger in that direction Casey gets a little sympathy and a repreive....................she deserves no sympathy..no repreive.  Rather Cindy or the man in the moon was Casey's mother...Casey would have been a socipath..it's not like they care one day and don't the next.  They are born more or less missing the empathy button..most never kill anyone..

I still believe the only Evil in that house was Casey.

But Gypsy, this didn't hapen in a vacuum. There were abnormal dynamics going on in that house and all three were involved.  I don't blame Cindy or George for Caylee's death.  I do blame them for raising a child in the way they did that she was ultimately capable of this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 01:22:14 PM
watching HLN now..
one question please!  did Cindy do good for Caylee? can't wait to find out...thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 01:23:27 PM
Sidebar, another objection by defense about the myspace 7/3 letter coming in

It will...no worries

I guess we needed to worry a bit!

I don't think any of us are sure.  Have to leave it up to the Judge and hope he is sure.

This was already ruled on, I think something had to be established, not sure what happened

Sorry I got in your quote box. 

I don't think any of us are sure.  Have to leave it up to the Judge and hope he is sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 01:23:39 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

I believe that temper tantrum we witnessed to today was mild compared to what Cindy & George dealt with her, but yes they enabled her & then made excuses for her which actually encouraged Casey's deplorable behavior, lack of responsibility & sense of entitlement.   I believe also that many times as we know it Cindy & George did confront her but during this time I think they sensed something was wrong based on what we believe to know as their last argument over the stolen money/possible threat to get custody of Caylee.

As I anticipated objection was overruled

Didn't Casey say she was abused- George allegedly hit Casey.

I can believe that!! She needed her @$$ beat many times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 01:24:13 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think during the sidebars, Bozo is flirting with the court recorder...???

Myself and a co-worker commented on that earlier ....wonder if it pisses ICA off? LOL

Haha what a jerk he is.  He thinks he is Rico Suave!

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 01:24:52 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...
Wonder if her and Baez were texting each other? Why is this allowed in the courtroom anyway?

I seriously doubt she was texting while on the stand.
When she's in the gallery she probably does text..but not to Bozo anymore.
As I said before, IMO this defense tactic and they are all in on it. Including George and Cindy. Thier tatics seem to be working. because the prosecution seems to be treading lightly on George and Cindy. But I truly believe all this is a ploy with George and Cindy included in it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 01:25:12 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Turbo.on what grounds would have they had Casey arrested during that timeframe?

She was over 21 years old, Caylee was her daughter, I don't think they could have even requested a wellness check or a driveby check because they didn't know where she was..but she was still communicating with them.  I just don't know during that timefrme anything else they could have done.  LE picking up the car..where?  Everytime Cindy talked to Casey, Casey said she was in a different location ..the State would not have put out an APB  for an adult who was in communication with her family but was not going to see them.

Unless you have dealt extensively with sociopaths or known one intimately that uses these tools of lying and gaslighting it is hard to comprehend...but believe me..they are able to make others they are close to wish they had never questioned them about anything.  They are able to make people around them believe they are all wrong and they are right.  It is a very complicated web they weave..by all indications

Cindy couldn't just kick her out without getting custody of Caylee first..Cindy was trying to protect Caylee.

Casey murdered Caylee and only Casey is responsible for that murder.  To blame Cindy or George for this is only helping Casey.  Everytime someone points their finger in that direction Casey gets a little sympathy and a repreive....................she deserves no sympathy..no repreive.  Rather Cindy or the man in the moon was Casey's mother...Casey would have been a socipath..it's not like they care one day and don't the next.  They are born more or less missing the empathy button..most never kill anyone..

I still believe the only Evil in that house was Casey.

But Gypsy, this didn't hapen in a vacuum. There were abnormal dynamics going on in that house and all three were involved.  I don't blame Cindy or George for Caylee's death.  I do blame them for raising a child in the way they did that she was ultimately capable of this.
Babybear - with all due respect....

It wouldn't matter where, who or how Casey was raised...she is a classic textbook sociopath.

I'm not exactly letting C & G off the hook here...just so you know


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 01:25:30 PM
I know it's sad that the anthonys lost caylee. But for once in I dont know how many years ! they are able to sleep without any casey drama. No money missing... no stress as it relates to her being  a drama queen.

Sad but I completely agree...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 01:26:48 PM
Casey Anthony News13

Motion will be heard Tuesday at 8:30am to start next week.

https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (https://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

(Referring to Lippman's motion. Baez said he would have an objection to it.)


Of course, when has he not had an objection to something?  Such a putz.

I don't understand how Mr. Lippman, as attorney for a couple of witnesses (!) has standing to file a motion in a criminal case.  I didn't think he did when he filed that they be allowed to attend all sessions of the court. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 28, 2011, 01:26:50 PM
Yeah but has the jury heard tony say that casey told him lee tried to feel her up. And never said to tony that george molested her???

Cindy said the kids, Lee and Casey, had a lot of friends in common.

Maybe she was afraid Tony would befriend Lee,

So, perhaps Casey told him this story to make sure Tony didn't befriend Lee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 01:28:40 PM
Yeah but has the jury heard tony say that casey told him lee tried to feel her up. And never said to tony that george molested her???

No, the jury has not heard this from Tony yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 01:29:16 PM
So, now that we know Tony says KC didn't tell him that George molested KC, and we know that Jessee doesn't say that either, where is the defense's backup that George did that?  KC's word won't carry weight.



Puzzler, The other day the Defense objected to Tony's proffer testimony, the jury was not in the room at that time..was it allowed in today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 01:30:51 PM
Yeah but has the jury heard tony say that casey told him lee tried to feel her up. And never said to tony that george molested her???

No, the jury has not heard this from Tony yet.

We were typing at the same time..Brandi tht answers my question..that didn't come out today either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 28, 2011, 01:32:29 PM
How about I was flipping through my tv and guess what movie is on.jumper its on fx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:32:35 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...
Wonder if her and Baez were texting each other? Why is this allowed in the courtroom anyway?

I seriously doubt she was texting while on the stand.
When she's in the gallery she probably does text..but not to Bozo anymore.
As I said before, IMO this defense tactic and they are all in on it. Including George and Cindy. Thier tatics seem to be working. because the prosecution seems to be treading lightly on George and Cindy. But I truly believe all this is a ploy with George and Cindy included in it.

With all due resepct, I think this theory is crazy.  Cindy said, she looked for the nanny uup until 6 weeks go, which was then they found out that KC was pushing them under the bus, indicating that when that happened (at least to me) that she realized there was never a nanny. 

Also, why would KC explode today cause her rmother would not look at her? 

I do not buy it. 

I think they learned who their daughter is and are finding it very difficult because they will always love their daughter, but I hope they are doing the right thing for Caylee.  The only one I am worried about is Lee right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 01:33:35 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Turbo.on what grounds would have they had Casey arrested during that timeframe?

She was over 21 years old, Caylee was her daughter, I don't think they could have even requested a wellness check or a driveby check because they didn't know where she was..but she was still communicating with them.  I just don't know during that timefrme anything else they could have done.  LE picking up the car..where?  Everytime Cindy talked to Casey, Casey said she was in a different location ..the State would not have put out an APB  for an adult who was in communication with her family but was not going to see them.

Unless you have dealt extensively with sociopaths or known one intimately that uses these tools of lying and gaslighting it is hard to comprehend...but believe me..they are able to make others they are close to wish they had never questioned them about anything.  They are able to make people around them believe they are all wrong and they are right.  It is a very complicated web they weave..by all indications

Cindy couldn't just kick her out without getting custody of Caylee first..Cindy was trying to protect Caylee.

Casey murdered Caylee and only Casey is responsible for that murder.  To blame Cindy or George for this is only helping Casey.  Everytime someone points their finger in that direction Casey gets a little sympathy and a repreive....................she deserves no sympathy..no repreive.  Rather Cindy or the man in the moon was Casey's mother...Casey would have been a socipath..it's not like they care one day and don't the next.  They are born more or less missing the empathy button..most never kill anyone..

I still believe the only Evil in that house was Casey.

I would have had MY car picked up and she could have walked on her man parade. I have dealt with a sociopath and I can tell you their main method of control in a family is confusion. I had a foster child who was not diagnosed as such but was a true sociopath. I think that is why I understand so much of KC's actions. I have seen them all before. The difference is our reactions to them and the Anthony's reactions. We only had ours in our house for 9 years and maybe the early years with them makes a difference, but EACH LIE must be confronted. You cannot back off even for one lie or they will overwhelm you and destroy all the family. There is NOTHING or NO ONE they won't lie about if it suits their purpose. It is all a "means to and end" and then end being they get what they want. They are cunning and manipulative even as young children and that is why I believe their family "walked on egg shells" around her. In our family a LIE was confronted immediately not only by us as parents but the other kids in the family, so the sociopath interestingly enough, learned to only lie outside of the family. They are very smart and call tell a believable lie in seconds when confronted, but the key is to call the lie and the liar at the time. Yes, KC killed Caylee for spite. Sociopaths are very dangerous when they are threatened and not just KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 28, 2011, 01:33:51 PM
Not sure if its the sameone. But that's what it is called. But it came out in 2008


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:34:12 PM
05/24/2011     Demand for Disclosure
of Favorable Evidence

Did we ever find out what this was for?

Also, guess who has a whopping $0.00 in her commissary fund as of the 28th? 

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:34:44 PM
So, now that we know Tony says KC didn't tell him that George molested KC, and we know that Jessee doesn't say that either, where is the defense's backup that George did that?  KC's word won't carry weight.



Puzzler, The other day the Defense objected to Tony's proffer testimony, the jury was not in the room at that time..was it allowed in today?

No.  The proffer is considered "heresay" and the judge said certain criteri must be met before the proffer can be heard before the jury.  The proffer was heard without the jury so as to get it on the record.  A criteria met would be if KC got on the stand and accused George.  Then the proffer could be brought in to impeach her testimony.  That's the way I understood it.

So...why did the defense bring it up?  What good is it to them?  It surely doesn't paint George as a sexual molester and neither does Jesse's comments....only about Lee and not "bad" at that.  My understanding is that Tony's deposition stated what the proffer stated.  Either I'm missing something (can't think like Baez's twisted thinking) or else Baez and the entire defense team didn't read Tony's deposition.

I'm really wondering if Baez isn't living "in his own world", too.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:36:13 PM
What do these things mean ?

05/17/2011     Memorandum
from PD Office, Sixth Judicial Circuit
05/17/2011     Memorandum
from PD Office, Sixth Judicial Circuit

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 01:37:50 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

Um...you sure that's the right Cynthia Anthony? I do see where someone by that name was in a lot of trouble in 2004, they were charged 2x with prostitution and lewdness, and a few other things. Think it's a different person. I can't picture this Cindy Anthony doing that...besides how much drama can one family take. We would have heard about it a long time ago.

IIRC that Cindy Anthony was a black women.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:38:42 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...
Wonder if her and Baez were texting each other? Why is this allowed in the courtroom anyway?

I seriously doubt she was texting while on the stand.
When she's in the gallery she probably does text..but not to Bozo anymore.
As I said before, IMO this defense tactic and they are all in on it. Including George and Cindy. Thier tatics seem to be working. because the prosecution seems to be treading lightly on George and Cindy. But I truly believe all this is a ploy with George and Cindy included in it.

With all due resepct, I think this theory is crazy.  Cindy said, she looked for the nanny uup until 6 weeks go, which was then they found out that KC was pushing them under the bus, indicating that when that happened (at least to me) that she realized there was never a nanny. 

Also, why would KC explode today cause her rmother would not look at her? 

I do not buy it. 

I think they learned who their daughter is and are finding it very difficult because they will always love their daughter, but I hope they are doing the right thing for Caylee.  The only one I am worried about is Lee right now.

I think KC exploded today because she realized mom is relaying the simple truth.  KC wanted mom to continue lying for her and she doesn't see that happening.  KC's waterloo just may be mom.  I hope so.  Just the simple truth will do it.  And know we know about Cindy's MySpace posting - the betrayal - guess mom had just been to the bank and found out there were "MORE" money issues.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 01:38:59 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

Is not "our" Cindy Anthony!!! The Cindy you are referring to is a black female in her 20's or 30's IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 01:39:26 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

Um...you sure that's the right Cynthia Anthony? I do see where someone by that name was in a lot of trouble in 2004, they were charged 2x with prostitution and lewdness, and a few other things. Think it's a different person. I can't picture this Cindy Anthony doing that...besides how much drama can one family take. We would have heard about it a long time ago.

IIRC that Cindy Anthony was a black women.

That's correct.  At one point we saw a picture of that woman.  She's younger, too.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bikerbev on May 28, 2011, 01:39:35 PM
I'm now watching Tony's testimony from this morning.  He's reading the aol messages between him and Casey.  Tony is on the verge of tears per se but Casey is stoned faced as ever.  The jury is gonna pick up on that, don't you think?  No reaction to the messages about Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 01:39:36 PM
Text Messages Tony Lazarro:

 Casey Anthony: I'm so sorry for not telling you what happened. We obviously need to talk. I need you, and I love you more than anyone.
 Tony Lazarro: Where is Caylee?
 Casey Anthony: I honestly don't know.
 Tony Lazarro: I don't know ... Are you serious?
 Casey Anthony: I've been filling out reports all night and driving around with multiple officers looking at old apartments I had taken her to. Everything. I'm the worst (expletive) mother ... I don't know what I would do if something happened to her.
 Tony Lazarro: Why wouldn't you tell me of all people? I was your boyfriend who cares about you and your daughter. It doesn't make sense to me. Why would you lie to me thinking she was fine with your nanny?
 Casey Anthony: I lied to everyone. What was I supposed to say? I trust my daughter with some psycho. How does that look?
 Tony Lazarro: (I don't know) what to say. I just hope your daughter is OK. I'm going to do everything I can to help your family and the cops.
 Casey Anthony: I was put in handcuffs for almost 10 minutes and sat in the back of a cop car. The best thing and the most important person in my life is missing, and God only knows if I'm every going to see her again.
 Casey Anthony: I am the dumbest person and the worst mother. I honestly hate myself.
 Casey Anthony: The most important thing is getting Caylee back, but I truly hope that you can forgive me. Granted I will never be able to forgive myself nor will my family

http://www.wesh.com/r/28057539/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 01:40:02 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

Is not "our" Cindy Anthony!!! The Cindy you are referring to is a black female in her 20's or 30's IIRC.


That is how I remember it too seeme...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 01:40:20 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28057597/detail.html
Cindy Anthony Testifies In Daughter's Murder Trial
Casey Anthony, 25, Charged With Killing Daughter
POSTED: Saturday, May 28, 2011
UPDATED: 1:15 pm EDT May 28, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Cindy Anthony broke into tears when showed a photo of Caylee's Winnie the Pooh themed bed.

The state then spent time having Cindy Anthony establish the layout of her home and yard on Hopespring Drive, where her daughter and granddaughter lived. She spoke extensively about locks on doors and how the home was set up.

She also described the ladder that was used to access the family's above ground pool. The defense has claimed that Caylee drowned in the family pool on June 16, 2008, and that grandfather George Anthony found her body.

When Judge Belvin Perry called for a recess in the middle of Cindy Anthony's testimony, Casey Anthony broke into tears and began talking to her attorneys.

The state asked Cindy Anthony if, before June 16 2008, how long she would go without seeing her granddaughter.

"I don't think I ever went more than 24 hours without seeing Caylee," Cindy Anthony said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 01:41:11 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

This is a different Cindy Anthony..not the right age or location ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 01:41:33 PM
HLN showing Tony Lazzaro's testimony from this morning now if anyone missed it as I did...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10086.new#new


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:42:34 PM
Also, if you look at the charges to her commisary, I see no 200.00 deposit from the 6th or whatever it was in May when Cindy supposedly put 200.00 in her commissary?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 01:42:59 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Turbo.on what grounds would have they had Casey arrested during that timeframe?

She was over 21 years old, Caylee was her daughter, I don't think they could have even requested a wellness check or a driveby check because they didn't know where she was..but she was still communicating with them.  I just don't know during that timefrme anything else they could have done.  LE picking up the car..where?  Everytime Cindy talked to Casey, Casey said she was in a different location ..the State would not have put out an APB  for an adult who was in communication with her family but was not going to see them.

Unless you have dealt extensively with sociopaths or known one intimately that uses these tools of lying and gaslighting it is hard to comprehend...but believe me..they are able to make others they are close to wish they had never questioned them about anything.  They are able to make people around them believe they are all wrong and they are right.  It is a very complicated web they weave..by all indications

Cindy couldn't just kick her out without getting custody of Caylee first..Cindy was trying to protect Caylee.

Casey murdered Caylee and only Casey is responsible for that murder.  To blame Cindy or George for this is only helping Casey.  Everytime someone points their finger in that direction Casey gets a little sympathy and a repreive....................she deserves no sympathy..no repreive.  Rather Cindy or the man in the moon was Casey's mother...Casey would have been a socipath..it's not like they care one day and don't the next.  They are born more or less missing the empathy button..most never kill anyone..

I still believe the only Evil in that house was Casey.

I would have had MY car picked up and she could have walked on her man parade. I have dealt with a sociopath and I can tell you their main method of control in a family is confusion. I had a foster child who was not diagnosed as such but was a true sociopath. I think that is why I understand so much of KC's actions. I have seen them all before. The difference is our reactions to them and the Anthony's reactions. We only had ours in our house for 9 years and maybe the early years with them makes a difference, but EACH LIE must be confronted. You cannot back off even for one lie or they will overwhelm you and destroy all the family. There is NOTHING or NO ONE they won't lie about if it suits their purpose. It is all a "means to and end" and then end being they get what they want. They are cunning and manipulative even as young children and that is why I believe their family "walked on egg shells" around her. In our family a LIE was confronted immediately not only by us as parents but the other kids in the family, so the sociopath interestingly enough, learned to only lie outside of the family. They are very smart and call tell a believable lie in seconds when confronted, but the key is to call the lie and the liar at the time. Yes, KC killed Caylee for spite. Sociopaths are very dangerous when they are threatened and not just KC.
I had  close relationships with a few sociopaths (no, I didn't pick them). I have found that when confronted with a lie, and when they can't back out because you have solid proof, they will pretend to be remorseful, apologize, cry and without taking a breath or batting an eyelash start spinning their next or a new web of lies...they never stop.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 01:43:39 PM
05/24/2011     Demand for Disclosure
of Favorable Evidence

Did we ever find out what this was for?

Also, guess who has a whopping $0.00 in her commissary fund as of the 28th? 

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

Where do you see her commissary account balance?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 01:45:20 PM
05/24/2011     Demand for Disclosure
of Favorable Evidence

Did we ever find out what this was for?

Also, guess who has a whopping $0.00 in her commissary fund as of the 28th? 

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234
Maybe OC charged ICA for mileage and a cell in Pinellas...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 01:46:05 PM
Wow....Tony never bought into her bullshit...I have even more respect for him now...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
05/24/2011     Demand for Disclosure
of Favorable Evidence

Did we ever find out what this was for?

Also, guess who has a whopping $0.00 in her commissary fund as of the 28th? 

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

Where do you see her commissary account balance?

YOu have to search for Anthony, Casey and then all the way at the bottom of the page are the transactions deducted, I think anyway. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 01:49:41 PM
just got back...

quick update?   how did Cindy do?   did she do justice to Caylee???

thanks!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10086.new#new


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:49:49 PM
I found this.  Not sure if it is true, did not watch to see.  Found in comments here, http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

At 21 seconds in Casey says “SHE’S MY MOTHER, SHE WOULDN’T EVEN LOOK AT ME ”

at 30 seconds in she says “SHE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM”

At 49 seconds in “THREE YEARS & NOTHING!’ makes chop motion with hand

then she says ‘now I tell the truth”

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:51:22 PM
05/24/2011     Demand for Disclosure
of Favorable Evidence

Did we ever find out what this was for?

Also, guess who has a whopping $0.00 in her commissary fund as of the 28th? 

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

Where do you see her commissary account balance?

YOu have to search for Anthony, Casey and then all the way at the bottom of the page are the transactions deducted, I think anyway. 

Defendant ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
      Total Financial Assessment  18,638.44
      Total Payments and Credits  18,638.44
      Balance Due as of 05/28/2011  0.0

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 01:53:40 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...
Wonder if her and Baez were texting each other? Why is this allowed in the courtroom anyway?

I seriously doubt she was texting while on the stand.
When she's in the gallery she probably does text..but not to Bozo anymore.
As I said before, IMO this defense tactic and they are all in on it. Including George and Cindy. Thier tatics seem to be working. because the prosecution seems to be treading lightly on George and Cindy. But I truly believe all this is a ploy with George and Cindy included in it.

With all due resepct, I think this theory is crazy.  Cindy said, she looked for the nanny uup until 6 weeks go, which was then they found out that KC was pushing them under the bus, indicating that when that happened (at least to me) that she realized there was never a nanny. 

Also, why would KC explode today cause her rmother would not look at her? 

I do not buy it. 

I think they learned who their daughter is and are finding it very difficult because they will always love their daughter, but I hope they are doing the right thing for Caylee.  The only one I am worried about is Lee right now.
If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bikerbev on May 28, 2011, 01:53:45 PM
Cindy looks like she is medicated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 01:55:01 PM
Cindy looks like she is medicated.

Yes...perhaps she is now being babysat by zanny?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 01:57:03 PM
snipped

My Space Cindy Anthony
Posted on July 27, 2008 by Michelle

The whole story of Caylee Anthony has me confused.  On Cindy Anthony’s My Space she wrote the following…on 7/3/08….(edit-Cindy has deleted her MySpace account)

     

    Thursday, July 03, 2008
    my caylee is missing
    Current mood: http://x.myspace.com/images/blog/moods/iBrads… distraughtShe came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 01:58:24 PM

 ::snipping2::
If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

I doubt she was texting in front of JBP, but I guess ya never know.  I think she had her bible?  I don't know.  But, when did she testify at pretrial about the sex abuse and finding Caylee dead in the swimming pool? 

I hate Cindy almost as much as and sometimes more than the Beotch, but I don't see that at all right now.  She is being very careful to get her point out w/o really saying what she probably wants to say.  IMO.

We shall see I guess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 01:58:25 PM
snipped

My Space Cindy Anthony
Posted on July 27, 2008 by Michelle

The whole story of Caylee Anthony has me confused.  On Cindy Anthony’s My Space she wrote the following…on 7/3/08….(edit-Cindy has deleted her MySpace account)

     

    Thursday, July 03, 2008
    my caylee is missing
    Current mood: http://x.myspace.com/images/blog/moods/iBrads… distraughtShe came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?

No wonder the defense didn't want this submitted into evidence... Heart breaking... what a biotch KC is.

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 01:59:09 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Turbo.on what grounds would have they had Casey arrested during that timeframe?

She was over 21 years old, Caylee was her daughter, I don't think they could have even requested a wellness check or a driveby check because they didn't know where she was..but she was still communicating with them.  I just don't know during that timefrme anything else they could have done.  LE picking up the car..where?  Everytime Cindy talked to Casey, Casey said she was in a different location ..the State would not have put out an APB  for an adult who was in communication with her family but was not going to see them.

Unless you have dealt extensively with sociopaths or known one intimately that uses these tools of lying and gaslighting it is hard to comprehend...but believe me..they are able to make others they are close to wish they had never questioned them about anything.  They are able to make people around them believe they are all wrong and they are right.  It is a very complicated web they weave..by all indications

Cindy couldn't just kick her out without getting custody of Caylee first..Cindy was trying to protect Caylee.

Casey murdered Caylee and only Casey is responsible for that murder.  To blame Cindy or George for this is only helping Casey.  Everytime someone points their finger in that direction Casey gets a little sympathy and a repreive....................she deserves no sympathy..no repreive.  Rather Cindy or the man in the moon was Casey's mother...Casey would have been a socipath..it's not like they care one day and don't the next.  They are born more or less missing the empathy button..most never kill anyone..

I still believe the only Evil in that house was Casey.

I would have had MY car picked up and she could have walked on her man parade. I have dealt with a sociopath and I can tell you their main method of control in a family is confusion. I had a foster child who was not diagnosed as such but was a true sociopath. I think that is why I understand so much of KC's actions. I have seen them all before. The difference is our reactions to them and the Anthony's reactions. We only had ours in our house for 9 years and maybe the early years with them makes a difference, but EACH LIE must be confronted. You cannot back off even for one lie or they will overwhelm you and destroy all the family. There is NOTHING or NO ONE they won't lie about if it suits their purpose. It is all a "means to and end" and then end being they get what they want. They are cunning and manipulative even as young children and that is why I believe their family "walked on egg shells" around her. In our family a LIE was confronted immediately not only by us as parents but the other kids in the family, so the sociopath interestingly enough, learned to only lie outside of the family. They are very smart and call tell a believable lie in seconds when confronted, but the key is to call the lie and the liar at the time. Yes, KC killed Caylee for spite. Sociopaths are very dangerous when they are threatened and not just KC.
I had  close relationships with a few sociopaths (no, I didn't pick them). I have found that when confronted with a lie, and when they can't back out because you have solid proof, they will pretend to be remorseful, apologize, cry and without taking a breath or batting an eyelash start spinning their next or a new web of lies...they never stop.

I know a few I wish I didn't.

Cindy to me is pretty simple minded...someone that is a prime target for a sociopath. Doesn't excuse her for not trying to get her daughter help and stop letting kc be in charge so much, it would have worn her out and made her very old before her time but she did bring her into this world. I can see how easy it was for kc to bs her mother, not GA or LA, but Cindy would be easy to bs and mess with her mind. There's no telling how many times kc has messed with her head.

There are different kinds of sociopaths, different levels. Kc is obviously on a high level. I know someone like this and the more you push she either will just shut down and/or become very scary. She keeps her mother in check by threatening to kill herself so her mother is afraid to push things. That's always the last trick she pulls on her mother..."I'll just kill myself!" and it always scares her mother to death. I know another when confronted will bawl a river and start spinning away a new batch of crap. Some remorse is shown but it's always a shallow pool. Whichever level ... each one I know can't stop themselves for nothing. The craziness just keeps on going and everywhere they go there's a path of destruction around them... wounded destroyed people all around them or people on their way to being destroyed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:01:33 PM
a real tear rolling down her cheeks
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kctryingtocry.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:03:38 PM

 ::snipping2::
If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

I doubt she was texting in front of JBP, but I guess ya never know.  I think she had her bible?  I don't know.  But, when did she testify at pretrial about the sex abuse and finding Caylee dead in the swimming pool? 

I hate Cindy almost as much as and sometimes more than the Beotch, but I don't see that at all right now.  She is being very careful to get her point out w/o really saying what she probably wants to say.  IMO.

We shall see I guess.
I think that linda is treating her gently! and if she thought cindy was lying she would manage to change the focus to the real truth...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:04:04 PM
Also, if you look at the charges to her commisary, I see no 200.00 deposit from the 6th or whatever it was in May when Cindy supposedly put 200.00 in her commissary?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


I think the $200 is a misquote by the press.  The "first" it was reported was that Cindy gave $20.  Do you see a $20 in May?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 02:06:40 PM
I found this.  Not sure if it is true, did not watch to see.  Found in comments here, http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

At 21 seconds in Casey says “SHE’S MY MOTHER, SHE WOULDN’T EVEN LOOK AT ME ”

at 30 seconds in she says “SHE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM”

At 49 seconds in “THREE YEARS & NOTHING!’ makes chop motion with hand

then she says ‘now I tell the truth”

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


That may not be verbatim but probably close to what she said.  What she sat in jail hoping her mother would help her with yet another lie, this one a horrendous one?   She anticipated her mother to lie for her against her husband...total narcissistic sociopath.   IF this were even remotely true Casey facing the DP would have BEGGED the State to plea & asked for protection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:07:06 PM
I found this.  Not sure if it is true, did not watch to see.  Found in comments here, http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

At 21 seconds in Casey says “SHE’S MY MOTHER, SHE WOULDN’T EVEN LOOK AT ME ”

at 30 seconds in she says “SHE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM”

At 49 seconds in “THREE YEARS & NOTHING!’ makes chop motion with hand

then she says ‘now I tell the truth”

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Well, he77, you're her daughter and for the past three years in court, with the exception of a time or two, KC wouldn't look at her mother.  Also, KC is the one who's refused to see her mother, repeatedly.  AND,  he77 yes, mom's going to protect mom, dad and Lee from the HUGE WASTE of a liar that KC is!!!

Karma....just turning the corner....lot more to come!  Have a good weekend Missy Casey!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 02:07:41 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Puzzler

I agree.

Considering Cindy conceded that she was the author ... why was the Myspace post not allowed into evidence?

Janet
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:08:35 PM
I found this.  Not sure if it is true, did not watch to see.  Found in comments here, http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

At 21 seconds in Casey says “SHE’S MY MOTHER, SHE WOULDN’T EVEN LOOK AT ME ”

at 30 seconds in she says “SHE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM”

At 49 seconds in “THREE YEARS & NOTHING!’ makes chop motion with hand

then she says ‘now I tell the truth”

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


That may not be verbatim but probably close to what she said.  What she sat in jail hoping her mother would help her with yet another lie, this one a horrendous one?   She anticipated her mother to lie for her against her husband...total narcissistic sociopath.   IF this were even remotely true Casey facing the DP would have BEGGED the State to plea & asked for protection.

Agree.  Oh, and "if" it were true, WHY would KC let Caylee spend one second alone with Caylee - instead of "often"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
Also, if you look at the charges to her commisary, I see no 200.00 deposit from the 6th or whatever it was in May when Cindy supposedly put 200.00 in her commissary?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


I think the $200 is a misquote by the press.  The "first" it was reported was that Cindy gave $20.  Do you see a $20 in May?

It would have been listed like all the other deposits were.   I think a letter was delivered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:10:07 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Puzzler

I agree.

Considering Cindy conceded that she was the author ... why was the Myspace post not allowed into evidence?

Janet
 

I "think" it was because of talking about money issues and coming from the bank - IMO, KC messed with Cindy's money again and that was the "betrayed" part in the MySpace post.  Maybe after some more questioning the "post" will eventually come in.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 02:10:32 PM

Day 5: Cindy Anthony Testifies, Text Messages
Casey Anthony Breaks Down During Court Recess
POSTED: 8:46 am EDT May 28, 2011
UPDATED: 1:02 pm EDT May 28, 2011

(http://www.wesh.com/2011/0528/28057857_240X180.jpg)
Court Room Photos http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28057556/detail.html
ORLANDO, Fla. -- It was an emotional Saturday morning in the courtroom of the Casey Anthony murder trial.
Most of the court session was spent with Cindy Anthony on the witness stand as Linda Drane Burdick questioned her about Caylee Anthony and the family's home on Hopespring Drive.
A multitude of pictures were entered into evidence showing the interior of the home and back yard, which contained the Anthony's above-ground pool and Caylee's playhouse and picnic table.

Cindy Anthony began to cry as the prosecution showed her a picture of Caylee's bed before it was entered into evidence.

"I'm sorry," Cindy Anthony said to the court after breaking down when the photo was shown.

"There are a few things that are normally on it, and the sheet is not on her pillow," Cindy Anthony said. "That's Caylee's bed."


Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28057539/detail.html#ixzz1Nfhu8eLg



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 02:10:51 PM
I found this.  Not sure if it is true, did not watch to see.  Found in comments here, http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

At 21 seconds in Casey says “SHE’S MY MOTHER, SHE WOULDN’T EVEN LOOK AT ME ”

at 30 seconds in she says “SHE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM”

At 49 seconds in “THREE YEARS & NOTHING!’ makes chop motion with hand

then she says ‘now I tell the truth”

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


That may not be verbatim but probably close to what she said.  What she sat in jail hoping her mother would help her with yet another lie, this one a horrendous one?   She anticipated her mother to lie for her against her husband...total narcissistic sociopath.   IF this were even remotely true Casey facing the DP would have BEGGED the State to plea & asked for protection.

Agree.  Oh, and "if" it were true, WHY would KC let Caylee spend one second alone with Caylee - instead of "often"?

Damn skippy straight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
Also, if you look at the charges to her commisary, I see no 200.00 deposit from the 6th or whatever it was in May when Cindy supposedly put 200.00 in her commissary?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


I think the $200 is a misquote by the press.  The "first" it was reported was that Cindy gave $20.  Do you see a $20 in May?

It would have been listed like all the other deposits were.   I think a letter was delivered.

Okay, so you're saying that there's no deposits listed in May?  I haven't looked at that report, so I don't know. 

Letter would be interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:13:13 PM

Day 5: Cindy Anthony Testifies, Text Messages
Casey Anthony Breaks Down During Court Recess
POSTED: 8:46 am EDT May 28, 2011
UPDATED: 1:02 pm EDT May 28, 2011

(http://www.wesh.com/2011/0528/28057857_240X180.jpg)
Court Room Photos http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28057556/detail.html
ORLANDO, Fla. -- It was an emotional Saturday morning in the courtroom of the Casey Anthony murder trial.
Most of the court session was spent with Cindy Anthony on the witness stand as Linda Drane Burdick questioned her about Caylee Anthony and the family's home on Hopespring Drive.
A multitude of pictures were entered into evidence showing the interior of the home and back yard, which contained the Anthony's above-ground pool and Caylee's playhouse and picnic table.

Cindy Anthony began to cry as the prosecution showed her a picture of Caylee's bed before it was entered into evidence.

"I'm sorry," Cindy Anthony said to the court after breaking down when the photo was shown.

"There are a few things that are normally on it, and the sheet is not on her pillow," Cindy Anthony said. "That's Caylee's bed."


Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28057539/detail.html#ixzz1Nfhu8eLg



Love that Linda got on the record that a Winnie the Pooh blanket was part of the linens in Caylee's room.

VERY important item!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Puzzler

I agree.

Considering Cindy conceded that she was the author ... why was the Myspace post not allowed into evidence?

Janet
 

I "think" it was because of talking about money issues and coming from the bank - IMO, KC messed with Cindy's money again and that was the "betrayed" part in the MySpace post.  Maybe after some more questioning the "post" will eventually come in.



Only explanation I can think of as well but then again when it was ruled it was coming in, all parties including CJBP were aware of the content of the Myspace entry so I would love to know what was determined by CJBP.   Also, the money stolen was not what she was convicted for but rather money she stole from her parents & grandparents.  I gotta tell ya Im rather stunned by it.   We also do not know yet if it is NEVER coming in or whether something has to be established before it is allowed in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 02:15:38 PM

 ::snipping2::
If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

I doubt she was texting in front of JBP, but I guess ya never know.  I think she had her bible?  I don't know.  But, when did she testify at pretrial about the sex abuse and finding Caylee dead in the swimming pool? 

I hate Cindy almost as much as and sometimes more than the Beotch, but I don't see that at all right now.  She is being very careful to get her point out w/o really saying what she probably wants to say.  IMO.

We shall see I guess.
Cindy didn't testify to sexual abuse or Caylee in the swimming pool. But George did say he would do anything for his Casey. I thought this was an odd line of questioning by Baez. Now I know why. Sorry but I think the same of Cindy&George. My sympathy is with them only because they have lost precious Caylee. But I still think they are coniving liars. I may be wrong about them being in on a ploy but if you look at the whole picture it is quite possible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 02:16:39 PM
a real tear rolling down her cheeks
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kctryingtocry.jpg)

Good, I hope she cries so hard tonight and the rest of the weekend that her throat hurts, but she won't.  Poor little KC, beotch.  NOT!!!.  Now she knows how her family, friends, strangers felt when her hcild was missed.  Remmeber her friend, was it Christina crying to her on the phone, if something happened to that baby, it would kill her?  All the wench could say was, give me Tony's phone number.  All IMO, cause I do not remember where I read that. 

 ::MonkeyDevil::

I hope she has screaming-meemie fits in her cell and can't sleep over the weekend.  KC is seeing the mom is "keeping it together".  Baez is goint to be a disaster with Cindy.


This was during her pissy fit...she knows shes even been lying to her attorneys & that scene is for their benefit so they still believe her, @$$hats all of them.   She did it after the jury was out of the court room & recovered for when they needed to come back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 02:17:37 PM
Have alot of work to do and plan on listening to ALL the testimony of the past two days I have missed while working, but just have to say that as I am rewatching Cindy's testimony and see Cindy breaking down, obviously in pain and ICA sitting there stone-faced, I have to say that I would absolutely DIE to see my momma crying and in such pain...Casey is for sure a cold, heartless bitch..That is all...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:18:08 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 02:18:53 PM
Also, if you look at the charges to her commisary, I see no 200.00 deposit from the 6th or whatever it was in May when Cindy supposedly put 200.00 in her commissary?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


I think the $200 is a misquote by the press.  The "first" it was reported was that Cindy gave $20.  Do you see a $20 in May?

It would have been listed like all the other deposits were.   I think a letter was delivered.

Okay, so you're saying that there's no deposits listed in May?  I haven't looked at that report, so I don't know. 

Letter would be interesting.

These are all the transactions in MAY.  None for 20.00 or 200.00.  There is one for 48.00, but I do not know who that is from or for.

05/06/2011     Transaction Assessment      16.99
05/06/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-30417  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (16.99)
05/16/2011     Transaction Assessment      48.00
05/16/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-32362  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (48.00)
05/23/2011     Transaction Assessment      2.00
05/23/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-34063  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (2.00)
05/23/2011     Transaction Assessment      1.00
05/23/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-34095  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (1.00)
05/26/2011     Transaction Assessment      2.00
05/26/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-35028  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (2.00)


http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:19:25 PM
I found this.  Not sure if it is true, did not watch to see.  Found in comments here, http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

At 21 seconds in Casey says “SHE’S MY MOTHER, SHE WOULDN’T EVEN LOOK AT ME ”

at 30 seconds in she says “SHE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM”

At 49 seconds in “THREE YEARS & NOTHING!’ makes chop motion with hand

then she says ‘now I tell the truth”

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html




zoo
thanks for posting that.. very interesting! I think that the anthonys seen what casey was going to do to them. So they decided to save theirselves in more wyas than one. Since the anthonys are cooperating with the state. there will likely be no charges against them for obstructing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 02:19:37 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 28, 2011, 02:19:39 PM
Wow I just watched where casey flipped out this morning. I wish there was away to know everything she said. Wow she was mad!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:21:15 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Puzzler

I agree.

Considering Cindy conceded that she was the author ... why was the Myspace post not allowed into evidence?

Janet
 

I "think" it was because of talking about money issues and coming from the bank - IMO, KC messed with Cindy's money again and that was the "betrayed" part in the MySpace post.  Maybe after some more questioning the "post" will eventually come in.



Only explanation I can think of as well but then again when it was ruled it was coming in, all parties including CJBP were aware of the content of the Myspace entry so I would love to know what was determined by CJBP.   Also, the money stolen was not what she was convicted for but rather money she stole from her parents & grandparents.  I gotta tell ya Im rather stunned by it.   We also do not know yet if it is NEVER coming in or whether something has to be established before it is allowed in.

Well, I'm thinking that since this was July 3, and Cindy had just come from the bank - money issues - that this was something that KC had "just done" to Cindy's funds.  However, foundation for that has not yet been established.  I'm thinking that's why JP wouldn't allow the MySpace post in at this time.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KCJackie on May 28, 2011, 02:21:45 PM
CIndy did not post the picture depicted on her myspace, she didnt know how to

Wow
What picture was depicted and who placed it there?

Im trying to remember & good question

I guess the new argument is that the picture is there, but it had to be when the judge first ruled on it so I doubt the judge will reverse his decision

way behind here - but is it this one of Cindy & Caylee?

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/Casey%20Case/cindy-anthony-deleted-myspace.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 02:22:16 PM
a real tear rolling down her cheeks
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kctryingtocry.jpg)


HOLY SHIT!!! She must have some black pepper hidden in that kleenex in her hand...

I think she is crying a real tear or two because she sees her own mommy is not standing by her lies anymore. Thus, she is crying for herself. A poor me cry, if you will.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 02:22:32 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:23:02 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.

I remember the days that Cindy looked wistfully at KC, begging with her eyes for KC to look at her.  Cold, spiteful KC wouldn't do it.  You see how ridiculous her thinking is!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:23:09 PM
a real tear rolling down her cheeks
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kctryingtocry.jpg)

Good, I hope she cries so hard tonight and the rest of the weekend that her throat hurts, but she won't.  Poor little KC, beotch.  NOT!!!.  Now she knows how her family, friends, strangers felt when her hcild was missed.  Remmeber her friend, was it Christina crying to her on the phone, if something happened to that baby, it would kill her?  All the wench could say was, give me Tony's phone number.  All IMO, cause I do not remember where I read that. 

 ::MonkeyDevil::

I hope she has screaming-meemie fits in her cell and can't sleep over the weekend.  KC is seeing the mom is "keeping it together".  Baez is goint to be a disaster with Cindy.


This was during her pissy fit...she knows shes even been lying to her attorneys & that scene is for their benefit so they still believe her, @$$hats all of them.   She did it after the jury was out of the court room & recovered for when they needed to come back.
capp
and that is when kc said to christina ..huge waste calling you guys huge waste...
oh and tonys testimony today sent her a message of how he realy felt and still feels towards her. she may have thought he still cared. I didnt see that  did anyone else... he seemed more cooperative and not as snarky!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 02:23:22 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 


Bet Cindy will see the chit fit her evil spawn threw by the time she's back on the stand Tuesday. I'm sure when she can she'll watch her videod testimony. Obviously Cindy has changed her tune...to the truth. I also think she has been coached on how to behave in a court of law and how to be a somewhat likable and credible witness with the jury...hope she keeps it up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:25:46 PM
Also, if you look at the charges to her commisary, I see no 200.00 deposit from the 6th or whatever it was in May when Cindy supposedly put 200.00 in her commissary?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


I think the $200 is a misquote by the press.  The "first" it was reported was that Cindy gave $20.  Do you see a $20 in May?

It would have been listed like all the other deposits were.   I think a letter was delivered.

Okay, so you're saying that there's no deposits listed in May?  I haven't looked at that report, so I don't know. 

Letter would be interesting.

These are all the transactions in MAY.  None for 20.00 or 200.00.  There is one for 48.00, but I do not know who that is from or for.

05/06/2011     Transaction Assessment      16.99
05/06/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-30417  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (16.99)
05/16/2011     Transaction Assessment      48.00
05/16/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-32362  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (48.00)
05/23/2011     Transaction Assessment      2.00
05/23/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-34063  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (2.00)
05/23/2011     Transaction Assessment      1.00
05/23/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-34095  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (1.00)
05/26/2011     Transaction Assessment      2.00
05/26/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-35028  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (2.00)


http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

Thank you.  No $20 nor $200....probably was a letter. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 02:26:14 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Puzzler

I agree.

Considering Cindy conceded that she was the author ... why was the Myspace post not allowed into evidence?

Janet
 

I "think" it was because of talking about money issues and coming from the bank - IMO, KC messed with Cindy's money again and that was the "betrayed" part in the MySpace post.  Maybe after some more questioning the "post" will eventually come in.



Only explanation I can think of as well but then again when it was ruled it was coming in, all parties including CJBP were aware of the content of the Myspace entry so I would love to know what was determined by CJBP.   Also, the money stolen was not what she was convicted for but rather money she stole from her parents & grandparents.  I gotta tell ya Im rather stunned by it.   We also do not know yet if it is NEVER coming in or whether something has to be established before it is allowed in.

I so don't get it either.  He ruled on many of those pictures too and Bozo keeps objecting.  Thank God I am not a lawyer, my client would be found guilty, LOL.  I thought all texts were allowed too?  I don't get it.

I didn't get why bozo hardly objected while Cindy was speaking.  I was thiking Bozo and Pros made a deal?  they won't object on some witness, if Bozo does not object?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 02:26:58 PM
Why would a parent be "afraid" of getting their daughter "upset?"  I would make her think upset, I would have called the police by then and had them pick up that car if she was hiding from me. If these people had exhibited any tough love on KC I honestly believe Caylee would still be alive.

AND..............as usual the defense objects but has NO CASE law and needs time to look it up.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc57.jpg)

Turbo, I agree that if the Anthonys had raised their daughter differently Caylee would be alive.  But by the time Caylee came along and stole George's and Cindy's hearts, they were so afraid of losing Caylee, That Casey would take her and leave, that they just submitted, IMO.

Turbo.on what grounds would have they had Casey arrested during that timeframe?

She was over 21 years old, Caylee was her daughter, I don't think they could have even requested a wellness check or a driveby check because they didn't know where she was..but she was still communicating with them.  I just don't know during that timefrme anything else they could have done.  LE picking up the car..where?  Everytime Cindy talked to Casey, Casey said she was in a different location ..the State would not have put out an APB  for an adult who was in communication with her family but was not going to see them.

Unless you have dealt extensively with sociopaths or known one intimately that uses these tools of lying and gaslighting it is hard to comprehend...but believe me..they are able to make others they are close to wish they had never questioned them about anything.  They are able to make people around them believe they are all wrong and they are right.  It is a very complicated web they weave..by all indications

Cindy couldn't just kick her out without getting custody of Caylee first..Cindy was trying to protect Caylee.

Casey murdered Caylee and only Casey is responsible for that murder.  To blame Cindy or George for this is only helping Casey.  Everytime someone points their finger in that direction Casey gets a little sympathy and a repreive....................she deserves no sympathy..no repreive.  Rather Cindy or the man in the moon was Casey's mother...Casey would have been a socipath..it's not like they care one day and don't the next.  They are born more or less missing the empathy button..most never kill anyone..

I still believe the only Evil in that house was Casey.

But Gypsy, this didn't hapen in a vacuum. There were abnormal dynamics going on in that house and all three were involved.  I don't blame Cindy or George for Caylee's death.  I do blame them for raising a child in the way they did that she was ultimately capable of this.
Babybear - with all due respect....

It wouldn't matter where, who or how Casey was raised...she is a classic textbook sociopath.

I'm not exactly letting C & G off the hook here...just so you know

Just so everyone understands I am not now nor have I ever been a fan of Cindy or George.  I found their behavior odious as far as covering for Casey, disrupting the investigation and all their money grubbing ways.  I do not like them one bit.  Never have and never will.

However, I am glad they have apparently turned a corner and are here telling the truth now.  They appear to have had a change in heart since they found out Casey was throwing them under the bus big time.  To throw out the sexual abuse cards..is beyond unforgivable..it is against the law.  To blame Caylee's body being stashed desposed of by her father..and then somehow bringing in Kronk as a ghoul running around the countryside hither and yon with the bosy is incomprehensible to anyone.  But it certainly smacks of the lengths a socipath will go to to cover there butt.

But, but to say had they been better parents Casey would not have done this is abstract.  We have no evidence to that effect.  We have no evidence they were sexually or emotionally abusing her.  Even if they spoiled her rotten how does that translate to her murdering her only child?  Many people are spoiled, many people lie, many people steal, many people have indescriminate sex, many people do lots of bad , senseless things ..but they do not murder their only child. 

I say every time someone says well Cindy this, George that, they may as well get in line to testify for her during mitigation..because that is going to be how mitigation goes.
They are going to say this wonderful, beautiful middle class girl, from a nice neighborhood lived such a horrific life at home that she couldn't help hiding the fact her daughter died from an accident. Really she lied like a rug about everything else..who would think she would tell the truth about this?

Huh..no disenfranchisement, no poverty, no drug addicted parents, no alcoholic parents, no lack of education, no lack of health care or food or clothing...naw..let's go for bad parenting and sexual abuse by both her father and brother..it's absurd.  Just my opinion but..sociopaths are missing something at birth..empathy...and no amount of parenting can put in the empathy button if it just isn't there.

Still don't like Cindy and George..but I do have some respect for them now that they seem to be cooperating with the State. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 02:26:59 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 02:28:00 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Totally agree.
She's probably thinking, get this over this....jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: FishstickKitty on May 28, 2011, 02:30:19 PM
Is it done for the day?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 02:30:54 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.

I remember the days that Cindy looked wistfully at KC, begging with her eyes for KC to look at her.  Cold, spiteful KC wouldn't do it.  You see how ridiculous her thinking is!

Payback is hell... typical brat...she can dish it out but can't take it. Cindy had better get ready... kc will be telling her lawyers to chew cindy up to pieces... but good luck with that. Lol. If they didn't learn from depositions with the A's before when the State was dealing with them or Morgan...oi. lol. Kc is super angry now. On the day she needed her mother to mouth those I love you's to her the most, cindy just walked right out with not one glance at her daughter. I wonder if her cindy look a like lawyer and mason was trying to convince kc otherwise..."oh she did but the officer was in the way and you missed it...I saw it kc, calm down." Nuh uh...she needed that look from her mother today, (not before when she didn't need it to serve any purpose, today when she needed it on her own terms), and her mother didn't do it. To kc, this means hell to pay...worse than what she had planned. She was waiting for that look and was  ::monkeydenied::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:31:28 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not

Maybe Cindy's been "coached" to just look down - not around at KC or the jury, etc.  Just look down and compose yourself during the sidebars, etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 02:32:49 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.

I remember the days that Cindy looked wistfully at KC, begging with her eyes for KC to look at her.  Cold, spiteful KC wouldn't do it.  You see how ridiculous her thinking is!

Payback is hell... typical brat...she can dish it out but can't take it. Cindy had better get ready... kc will be telling her lawyers to chew cindy up to pieces... but good luck with that. Lol. If they didn't learn from depositions with the A's before when the State was dealing with them or Morgan...oi. lol. Kc is super angry now. On the day she needed her mother to mouth those I love you's to her the most, cindy just walked right out with not one glance at her daughter. I wonder if her cindy look a like lawyer and mason was trying to convince kc otherwise..."oh she did but the officer was in the way and you missed it...I saw it kc, calm down." Nuh uh...she needed that look from her mother today, (not before when she didn't need it to serve any purpose, today when she needed it on her own terms), and her mother didn't do it. To kc, this means hell to pay...worse than what she had planned. She was waiting for that look and was  ::monkeydenied::

Hear! Hear!  Love this post!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 02:33:11 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Puzzler

I agree.

Considering Cindy conceded that she was the author ... why was the Myspace post not allowed into evidence?

Janet
 

I "think" it was because of talking about money issues and coming from the bank - IMO, KC messed with Cindy's money again and that was the "betrayed" part in the MySpace post.  Maybe after some more questioning the "post" will eventually come in.



Only explanation I can think of as well but then again when it was ruled it was coming in, all parties including CJBP were aware of the content of the Myspace entry so I would love to know what was determined by CJBP.   Also, the money stolen was not what she was convicted for but rather money she stole from her parents & grandparents.  I gotta tell ya Im rather stunned by it.   We also do not know yet if it is NEVER coming in or whether something has to be established before it is allowed in.

I so don't get it either.  He ruled on many of those pictures too and Bozo keeps objecting.  Thank God I am not a lawyer, my client would be found guilty, LOL.  I thought all texts were allowed too?  I don't get it.

I didn't get why bozo hardly objected while Cindy was speaking.  I was thiking Bozo and Pros made a deal?  they won't object on some witness, if Bozo does not object?

Bozo MIGHT of saw Bill Shaeffers interview update about beating up George and how the jury will that it.......Do it with Cindy, jury will diffidently hate bozo/casey.????????
 ::MonkeyShovel::

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 02:34:52 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not


I agree ....no way....could also be something as simple as a nervous shredding of a kleenex in her lap ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 02:36:54 PM
I was looking for Lippman's motion......and did you know Cindy was arrested on 10/20/04 for drugs?  I didn't know that.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=5701069

I believe that was determined to be another Cindy Anthony, Im not positive though
sorry if this was answered.I am catching up and 5 pages behind.The Cindy Anthony  arrested was a black female.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: darla on May 28, 2011, 02:38:58 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys.

snipped from post up above by I think Zoo. This is not Casey's commissary account. This is payments made to the Clerk of Court for filing fees or picking up documents.



These are all the transactions in MAY.  None for 20.00 or 200.00.  There is one for 48.00, but I do not know who that is from or for.

05/06/2011     Transaction Assessment      16.99
05/06/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-30417  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (16.99)
05/16/2011     Transaction Assessment      48.00
05/16/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-32362  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (48.00)
05/23/2011     Transaction Assessment      2.00
05/23/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-34063  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (2.00)
05/23/2011     Transaction Assessment      1.00
05/23/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-34095  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (1.00)
05/26/2011     Transaction Assessment      2.00
05/26/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-35028  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (2.00)
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Thank you.  No $20 nor $200..





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 02:39:19 PM
My take on KC's meltdown........she (and her inept @ssclown attorney) believed Cindy was going to continue lying for her, & back up her bullchit 30 days of stories.
Didn't happen beotch!!!!

Cindy could have eventually believed the accidental death of Caylee......but to throw George under the bus with such horrible allegations of sexual abuse under her watch, Cindy will never go there, IMO. Cindy hearing KC lie about horrific sexual abuse by her father, finally made Cindy realize if she could lie about something so horrible & untrue against her own father, KC's version of what happened to Caylee is more than likely a total lie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 02:40:52 PM
CIndy did not post the picture depicted on her myspace, she didnt know how to

Wow
What picture was depicted and who placed it there?

Im trying to remember & good question

I guess the new argument is that the picture is there, but it had to be when the judge first ruled on it so I doubt the judge will reverse his decision

way behind here - but is it this one of Cindy & Caylee?

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/Casey%20Case/cindy-anthony-deleted-myspace.jpg)

Lee set up the MySpace for Cindy.

Maybe they have to wait for Lee's testimony to say yes I did set that up..used that pic....then the MySpace can come into play.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 02:41:42 PM
My take on KC's meltdown........she (and her inept @ssclown attorney) believed Cindy was going to continue lying for her, & back up her bullchit 30 days of stories.
Didn't happen beotch!!!!

Cindy could have eventually believed the accidental death of Caylee......but to throw George under the bus with such horrible allegations of sexual abuse under her watch, Cindy will never go there, IMO. Cindy hearing KC lie about horrific sexual abuse by her father, finally made Cindy realize if she could lie about something so horrible & untrue against her own father, KC's version of what happened to Caylee is more than likely a total lie.


Yes, yes and yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 02:42:14 PM
My take on KC's meltdown........she (and her inept @ssclown attorney) believed Cindy was going to continue lying for her, & back up her bullchit 30 days of stories.
Didn't happen beotch!!!!

Cindy could have eventually believed the accidental death of Caylee......but to throw George under the bus with such horrible allegations of sexual abuse under her watch, Cindy will never go there, IMO. Cindy hearing KC lie about horrific sexual abuse by her father, finally made Cindy realize if she could lie about something so horrible & untrue against her own father, KC's version of what happened to Caylee is more than likely a total lie.
Let's not forget she threw her brother, the only child C & G have left, under the bus too...That has to hurt big time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 02:43:19 PM
I found this.  Not sure if it is true, did not watch to see.  Found in comments here, http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

At 21 seconds in Casey says “SHE’S MY MOTHER, SHE WOULDN’T EVEN LOOK AT ME ”

at 30 seconds in she says “SHE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM”

At 49 seconds in “THREE YEARS & NOTHING!’ makes chop motion with hand

then she says ‘now I tell the truth”

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


That may not be verbatim but probably close to what she said.  What she sat in jail hoping her mother would help her with yet another lie, this one a horrendous one?   She anticipated her mother to lie for her against her husband...total narcissistic sociopath.   IF this were even remotely true Casey facing the DP would have BEGGED the State to plea & asked for protection.

Agree.  Oh, and "if" it were true, WHY would KC let Caylee spend one second alone with Caylee - instead of "often"?

Is it just me or did she cover her mouth when talking all week "except" for this one time.  I trust nothing this slut says or does.  With drama queen Baez orchestrating this whole defense I believe none of it. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 02:43:33 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not


I agree ....no way....could also be something as simple as a nervous shredding of a kleenex in her lap ...

I think she was looking down trying to compose herself and trying to not look at Casey.

Interesting she is wearing a rubber bracelet..possibly the Caylee one..and I wonder if the bracelt is a cremation bracelet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 02:45:32 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys.

snipped from post up above by I think Zoo. This is not Casey's commissary account. This is payments made to the Clerk of Court for filing fees or picking up documents.



These are all the transactions in MAY.  None for 20.00 or 200.00.  There is one for 48.00, but I do not know who that is from or for.

05/06/2011     Transaction Assessment      16.99
05/06/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-30417  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (16.99)
05/16/2011     Transaction Assessment      48.00
05/16/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-32362  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (48.00)
05/23/2011     Transaction Assessment      2.00
05/23/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-34063  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (2.00)
05/23/2011     Transaction Assessment      1.00
05/23/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-34095  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (1.00)
05/26/2011     Transaction Assessment      2.00
05/26/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-35028  ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE  (2.00)
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Thank you.  No $20 nor $200..





I thought that too, but up above, you know that kid Ryan that keeps giving her money, he is on that list.  I don't know, obviously. 


03/02/2011     Counter Payment  Receipt # CR-2011-14280  RYAN P. HUGHES  (31.99)

Is that a media guy and I am just crazy?  There was a kid who was constantly putting very little money in.

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 02:45:56 PM
My take on KC's meltdown........she (and her inept @ssclown attorney) believed Cindy was going to continue lying for her, & back up her bullchit 30 days of stories.
Didn't happen beotch!!!!

Cindy could have eventually believed the accidental death of Caylee......but to throw George under the bus with such horrible allegations of sexual abuse under her watch, Cindy will never go there, IMO. Cindy hearing KC lie about horrific sexual abuse by her father, finally made Cindy realize if she could lie about something so horrible & untrue against her own father, KC's version of what happened to Caylee is more than likely a total lie.


Yes, yes and yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and Yes!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Just so everyone understands I am not now nor have I ever been a fan of Cindy or George.  I found their behavior odious as far as covering for Casey, disrupting the investigation and all their money grubbing ways.  I do not like them one bit.  Never have and never will.

However, I am glad they have apparently turned a corner and are here telling the truth now.  They appear to have had a change in heart since they found out Casey was throwing them under the bus big time.  To throw out the sexual abuse cards..is beyond unforgivable..it is against the law.  To blame Caylee's body being stashed desposed of by her father..and then somehow bringing in Kronk as a ghoul running around the countryside hither and yon with the bosy is incomprehensible to anyone.  But it certainly smacks of the lengths a socipath will go to to cover there butt.

But, but to say had they been better parents Casey would not have done this is abstract.  We have no evidence to that effect.  We have no evidence they were sexually or emotionally abusing her.  Even if they spoiled her rotten how does that translate to her murdering her only child?  Many people are spoiled, many people lie, many people steal, many people have indescriminate sex, many people do lots of bad , senseless things ..but they do not murder their only child. 

I say every time someone says well Cindy this, George that, they may as well get in line to testify for her during mitigation..because that is going to be how mitigation goes.
They are going to say this wonderful, beautiful middle class girl, from a nice neighborhood lived such a horrific life at home that she couldn't help hiding the fact her daughter died from an accident. Really she lied like a rug about everything else..who would think she would tell the truth about this?

Huh..no disenfranchisement, no poverty, no drug addicted parents, no alcoholic parents, no lack of education, no lack of health care or food or clothing...naw..let's go for bad parenting and sexual abuse by both her father and brother..it's absurd.  Just my opinion but..sociopaths are missing something at birth..empathy...and no amount of parenting can put in the empathy button if it just isn't there.

Still don't like Cindy and George..but I do have some respect for them now that they seem to be cooperating with the State. 

Well said Gypsy.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Although I do believe there are some things that can aggravate a sociopath, all in all... they lack empathy within themselves, it doesn't matter how they live. They just don't care, they can't muster it up to save their own lives. They're totally lost in "me" world. And we're talking high level sociopaths. Socio through and through...all the way to the core. (there are some that can function better with help) If they live in better accommodations and better parenting, these monsters just destroy a little slower, but they all get worse with time. The world needs a better education about it, people need to be able to identify it better than they do, so when a parent realizes, then help can be sought and maybe there can be some control...but as it is, just as it is with many diseases, the world just isn't as in the know about it as needs be. I know I had to meet a few and do some research to understand it better. I truly believe if Cindy realized how sick her daughter was and where it was heading, she would have been more actively working on the situation as quietly as she could away from anyone outside of family ever knowing of course, but more would have been done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 02:47:55 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not


I agree ....no way....could also be something as simple as a nervous shredding of a kleenex in her lap ...

Or straightening out her skirt, or pointing out the different colors on it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 02:49:19 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not


I agree ....no way....could also be something as simple as a nervous shredding of a kleenex in her lap ...

I think she was looking down trying to compose herself and trying to not look at Casey.

Interesting she is wearing a rubber bracelet..possibly the Caylee one..and I wonder if the bracelt is a cremation bracelet?


Maybe she is looking down playing with the bacelet? Just guessing here...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 02:49:57 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not


I agree ....no way....could also be something as simple as a nervous shredding of a kleenex in her lap ...

Or straightening out her skirt, or pointing out the different colors on it.


Exactly.... some little nervous tic...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 02:50:49 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.

1st of all, texting is not permitted, period.
Cindy on numerous occasions, during sidebars, etc. appeared to be looking down, @ her lap, eyes closed. She at some point asked Judge Perry if the monitor in front of her could be turned around. Caylee's picture was on the monitor and making her cry. She couldn't look @ it any longer. So I think when she was looking down, (to avoid seeing Caylee's photo) it was because she just couldn't handle her emotions if Caylee's pic was in her view for the duration of her testimony. Judge Perry allowed for the monitor to be turned away.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 02:51:07 PM
Wow....Tony never bought into her bullshit...I have even more respect for him now...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/tony-lazzaro-0527.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:51:17 PM
Just so everyone understands I am not now nor have I ever been a fan of Cindy or George.  I found their behavior odious as far as covering for Casey, disrupting the investigation and all their money grubbing ways.  I do not like them one bit.  Never have and never will.

However, I am glad they have apparently turned a corner and are here telling the truth now.  They appear to have had a change in heart since they found out Casey was throwing them under the bus big time.  To throw out the sexual abuse cards..is beyond unforgivable..it is against the law.  To blame Caylee's body being stashed desposed of by her father..and then somehow bringing in Kronk as a ghoul running around the countryside hither and yon with the bosy is incomprehensible to anyone.  But it certainly smacks of the lengths a socipath will go to to cover there butt.

But, but to say had they been better parents Casey would not have done this is abstract.  We have no evidence to that effect.  We have no evidence they were sexually or emotionally abusing her.  Even if they spoiled her rotten how does that translate to her murdering her only child?  Many people are spoiled, many people lie, many people steal, many people have indescriminate sex, many people do lots of bad , senseless things ..but they do not murder their only child. 

I say every time someone says well Cindy this, George that, they may as well get in line to testify for her during mitigation..because that is going to be how mitigation goes.
They are going to say this wonderful, beautiful middle class girl, from a nice neighborhood lived such a horrific life at home that she couldn't help hiding the fact her daughter died from an accident. Really she lied like a rug about everything else..who would think she would tell the truth about this?

Huh..no disenfranchisement, no poverty, no drug addicted parents, no alcoholic parents, no lack of education, no lack of health care or food or clothing...naw..let's go for bad parenting and sexual abuse by both her father and brother..it's absurd.  Just my opinion but..sociopaths are missing something at birth..empathy...and no amount of parenting can put in the empathy button if it just isn't there.

Still don't like Cindy and George..but I do have some respect for them now that they seem to be cooperating with the State. 

Well said Gypsy.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Although I do believe there are some things that can aggravate a sociopath, all in all... they lack empathy within themselves, it doesn't matter how they live. They just don't care, they can't muster it up to save their own lives. They're totally lost in "me" world. And we're talking high level sociopaths. Socio through and through...all the way to the core. (there are some that can function better with help) If they live in better accommodations and better parenting, these monsters just destroy a little slower, but they all get worse with time. The world needs a better education about it, people need to be able to identify it better than they do, so when a parent realizes, then help can be sought and maybe there can be some control...but as it is, just as it is with many diseases, the world just isn't as in the know about it as needs be. I know I had to meet a few and do some research to understand it better. I truly believe if Cindy realized how sick her daughter was and where it was heading, she would have been more actively working on the situation as quietly as she could away from anyone outside of family ever knowing of course, but more would have been done.



i like that she has all weekend to thinkkkkkkk without her attorneys... alone.. she said.. everybody lies everybody dies.. how ironic its her  that lies and may die...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 02:52:56 PM
I found this.  Not sure if it is true, did not watch to see.  Found in comments here, http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

At 21 seconds in Casey says “SHE’S MY MOTHER, SHE WOULDN’T EVEN LOOK AT ME ”

at 30 seconds in she says “SHE’S GOING TO PROTECT HIM”

At 49 seconds in “THREE YEARS & NOTHING!’ makes chop motion with hand

then she says ‘now I tell the truth”
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html




zoo
thanks for posting that.. very interesting! I think that the anthonys seen what casey was going to do to them. So they decided to save theirselves in more wyas than one. Since the anthonys are cooperating with the state. there will likely be no charges against them for obstructing.

LOL..Judge Stan Strickland would be howling at that line.."Miss Anthony and the truth are strangers".....this woman wouldn't know the truth if it hit her in the face.

Gee..I hope this means she insists to her attorneys she'll take the stand..that's the only way SHE can tell the truth
Bring it b!tch..Linda and Jeff will eat you alive..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:53:01 PM
Wow....Tony never bought into her bullshit...I have even more respect for him now...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/tony-lazzaro-0527.jpg)
oh me too... he seemed to be more disgusted... that just slapped her to reality... he has moved on... she is still in limbo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:55:55 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not


I agree ....no way....could also be something as simple as a nervous shredding of a kleenex in her lap ...

Or straightening out her skirt, or pointing out the different colors on it.
she could have been praying for strength to endure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 02:56:22 PM
Tony was disgusted with Casey...clear to see..I was soooo happy about that...
kudos to this guy! he is a stand up guy...at first I thought he was pretty cocky but since changed my mind...he just probably didn't want to be there cause of this ho bag...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:57:41 PM
My take on KC's meltdown........she (and her inept @ssclown attorney) believed Cindy was going to continue lying for her, & back up her bullchit 30 days of stories.
Didn't happen beotch!!!!

Cindy could have eventually believed the accidental death of Caylee......but to throw George under the bus with such horrible allegations of sexual abuse under her watch, Cindy will never go there, IMO. Cindy hearing KC lie about horrific sexual abuse by her father, finally made Cindy realize if she could lie about something so horrible & untrue against her own father, KC's version of what happened to Caylee is more than likely a total lie.


Yes, yes and yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol multiples yesssesssssssssss


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 02:58:21 PM
Tony was disgusted with Casey...clear to see..I was soooo happy about that...
kudos to this guy! he is a stand up guy...at first I thought he was pretty cocky but since changed my mind...he just probably didn't want to be there cause of this ho bag...


I agree...Casey might have had a good guy there,,,,who  knows?He seemed more concerned about Caylee than Casey did...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 02:58:59 PM
Cindy is heartbroken..jury will be able to see how heartbroken she is compared the the child's own mother..If I was a juror, no way would I believe that these grand parents would cover up Caylee's death as the defense is implying...
jmo

Caylee was their whole life...jmo...made Casey jealous and angry...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 02:59:05 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 02:59:27 PM
Tony was disgusted with Casey...clear to see..I was soooo happy about that...
kudos to this guy! he is a stand up guy...at first I thought he was pretty cocky but since changed my mind...he just probably didn't want to be there cause of this ho bag...
cookie
oh I was so please and proud of him this morning. You know he has been here a couple of days and has had time to think... also he has prolly gotten encouragement  from his parents to tell the truth and change his snark to cooperation or they man take it that he helped or knew more.. you know bozo is just waiting for someone else to take the heat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Buckeye on May 28, 2011, 02:59:41 PM
Accidental death is not exactly new.

November 6, 2008

DEFENSE: IF CAYLEE'S DEAD IT WAS ACCIDENT

Publicly, Casey Anthony's defense team has always insisted that Caylee Anthony is alive, even after Casey was arrested and charged with her daughter Caylee's murder.

"We all believe she's alive," attorney Jose Baez said during a hearing at the Orange County Courthouse on Wednesday.

However, Eyewitness News has learned that, behind the scenes, the defense team sent 30 pages of documents to prosecutors. In those documents, Casey's lawyers argued that if Caylee is dead that it was "almost certainly a tragic accident."

The documents also said Caylee could've been poisoned by chloroform or she could have died while she was sedated. They said the cause of death could have been an unwitting overdose of a sedative.

The defense documents went on to describe Casey as troubled and possibly depressed. They said her behavior had been erratic ever since Caylee's birth and particularly in the months before the little girl's disappearance.

Also, the documents state that Casey's lack of emotion after Caylee's disappearance is proof that she is not normal and could possibly be suffering from mental or emotional stress.

The defense used those documents to argue that the death penalty is not an appropriate sentence in Casey's case, because she is young and she's never had a criminal record. However, the documents never mention Casey's story that a babysitter took Caylee and disappeared with her.

Eyewitness News also learned that dissention among the defense team may be behind the release of those documents. The death penalty-qualified attorney, who is helping Jose Baez, said he wanted Casey to be evaluated by a nationally-known psychologist who was involved in the Unabomber and the Elizabeth Smart cases. The attorney thinks Casey is mentally ill, but Eyewitness News learned Baez rejected his suggestion.

The latest development comes after Eyewitness News caught a major slip-up by Casey's defense team on national TV last month, when a spokesperson for her attorney admitted Caylee Anthony was dead.

"This is a very serious case involving not just the life of a little girl, but the loss of whatever is going to happen with Casey Anthony," said Black.

Jose Baez's spokesperson Todd Black made that statement during a phone interview with CNN.

Last week, Baez replaced Black on his defense team with another spokesperson.


 ::snipping2::

http://www.wftv.com/news/17919607/detail.html#-


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 03:00:34 PM
i like that she has all weekend to thinkkkkkkk without her attorneys... alone.. she said.. everybody lies everybody dies.. how ironic its her  that lies and may die...

 ::rhino::

Bet the paranoia is running high too..."Mom is going to tell them EVERYTHING!"

Oh if only!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 03:01:10 PM
Cindy is heartbroken..jury will be able to see how heartbroken she is compared the the child's own mother..If I was a juror, no way would I believe that these grand parents would cover up Caylee's death as the defense is implying...
jmo

Caylee was their whole life...jmo...made Casey jealous and angry...
never seen anyone other than cindy looking at the monitor.. casey didnt.. and casey tried to fake emotion but mostly anger was seething in her...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 03:02:02 PM
i like that she has all weekend to thinkkkkkkk without her attorneys... alone.. she said.. everybody lies everybody dies.. how ironic its her  that lies and may die...

 ::rhino::

Bet the paranoia is running high too..."Mom is going to tell them EVERYTHING!"

Oh if only!!!
which just made me think that.. she may have an anxiety attack or two this wekend.. maybe thats why they went back there with her...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 03:02:41 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 03:03:41 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

I think she's just looking at anything except up as much as she can. She doesn't want to look at kc, she doesn't want to look at LDB or the gallery, and boy is her back turned to the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 03:06:04 PM
I am more convinced now that all those jailhouse letters about sexual abuse was a set up by her defense team to write those things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 03:07:29 PM
Wow....Tony never bought into her bullshit...I have even more respect for him now...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/tony-lazzaro-0527.jpg)
oh me too... he seemed to be more disgusted... that just slapped her to reality... he has moved on... she is still in limbo

Yes he does ..and then Mom didn't come through for her either...

All in all a horrible bad day for Miss Casey in Court..... ::MonkeyCool::..bet she attacks the pork rinds tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 03:07:59 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 03:08:09 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image8-2.png)

When she went to the stand, she paused to ask Linda if she could take her water with her.

She only had the water and a tissue in her hand.

I am sorry I said it looked like she was texting. I am positive she wasn't. Would have never been allowed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 03:09:38 PM
July 5-15 Casey stayed with Lazzaro he says no change in her. She picked him up at airport and was, "happy to see me"
Lazzaro: Casey's friend Amy came to Lazzaro's door knocked on door looked at Casey and they both left.

Attorneys talking with judge about a blockbuster receipt. First sidebar 10 minutes in!

Lazzaro: Casey's friend Amy came to Lazzaro's door knocked on door looked at Casey and they both left.
Lazzaro says deputy came to his door and he gave deputy Casey's cellphone.
Lazzaro says Lee Anthony came to his apartment after deputy and seemed concerned. Lazzaro gave Lee a bag of Casey's clothes and her laptop
July 16 text message conversation Subject from Casey: I'm so sorry for not telling you what happened... Lazzaro: Where is Caylee?
Lazzaro: no sh** this is serious why would you not tell anyone?
In texts from Casey she says she was scared.
Lazzaro says he called Casey and said where's Caylee? he says Casey said she didn't know.
Lazzaro says he felt betrayed and lied to and became frustrated and hung up on Casey.
Cross examination from Baez starting now

Baez asking if texts seem like a slap in the face on reality. Lazzaro says, "yes sir".
Cindy Anthony taking stand. Lazzaro don
e.

http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
thanks Blonde


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 03:12:11 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image39-3.png)

I swear it looks like Cindy is texting. Noticed it several times while she is on the stand.


I thought the same thing Brandi...also noticed it when she is not on the stand ...
Wonder if her and Baez were texting each other? Why is this allowed in the courtroom anyway?

I seriously doubt she was texting while on the stand.
When she's in the gallery she probably does text..but not to Bozo anymore.
As I said before, IMO this defense tactic and they are all in on it. Including George and Cindy. Thier tatics seem to be working. because the prosecution seems to be treading lightly on George and Cindy. But I truly believe all this is a ploy with George and Cindy included in it.
As usual I am way behind but..I have been having the same thoughts.  I can't get past their history of lies and scamming for $$ and now they are again attempting to get trademarks on Caylee. Didn't Lippman already threaten a lawsuit over Bozo's treatment of GA?  To me, both GA and CA, appear to be playing parts.  I can't decide whether it's to save Casey or setting the stage for future lawsuits or a combination of both, but I simply don't trust them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 28, 2011, 03:13:35 PM
I wonder if GOD was making her "sneeze" while Cindy was testifying.  Good grief. 

She's so special that GOD would take time out from tornadoes, floods, earthquakes & tyrant rulers to help the beautiful Casey get through her mother's testimony.  I really despise this monster


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 03:17:28 PM
Wow....Tony never bought into her bullshit...I have even more respect for him now...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/tony-lazzaro-0527.jpg)
oh me too... he seemed to be more disgusted... that just slapped her to reality... he has moved on... she is still in limbo

Yes he does ..and then Mom didn't come through for her either...

All in all a horrible bad day for Miss Casey in Court..... ::MonkeyCool::..bet she attacks the pork rinds tonight.


I especially loved it when the judge told everyone to enjoy their weekend and ICA has to go back to her cell.....get use to it biotch!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 03:19:17 PM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 03:19:59 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Watch the video their in nothing but water and tissue in her hand

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 28, 2011, 03:21:45 PM
Just watched all the videos...

Did ya'll catch Cindy telling that Casey had a Winnie the Poo themed bedroom at 16 yrs old and that she'd always loved Winnie so it made sense to use that theme for the baby?

Also, if you noticed Cindy walking to the witness stand the only things she ever had with her were a bottle of water and her glasses.  She never carried a phone, purse, etc.  In fact, I've noticed that the court deputies will not allow things to be carried past the 'gate'.

As for Casey's meltdown.  PUKE.  All for Casey.  She realizes now that she stepped over a line by trying to throw her parents under the bus.  I wouldn't be surprised to hear that 6 weeks ago she also had lies to tell about Cindy other than she didn't protect KC from sexual abuse. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 03:22:57 PM
I am more convinced now that all those jailhouse letters about sexual abuse was a set up by her defense team to write those things.

No doubt about it that they were meant to be seen, Casey lodged these horrific allegations & her attorneys ran with it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 03:23:25 PM
Just watched all the videos...

Did ya'll catch Cindy telling that Casey had a Winnie the Poo themed bedroom at 16 yrs old and that she'd always loved Winnie so it made sense to use that theme for the baby?

Also, if you noticed Cindy walking to the witness stand the only things she ever had with her were a bottle of water and her glasses.  She never carried a phone, purse, etc.  In fact, I've noticed that the court deputies will not allow things to be carried past the 'gate'.

As for Casey's meltdown.  PUKE.  All for Casey.  She realizes now that she stepped over a line by trying to throw her parents under the bus.  I wouldn't be surprised to hear that 6 weeks ago she also had lies to tell about Cindy other than she didn't protect KC from sexual abuse. 


Next thing you know she will accuse Cindy of sexual abuse.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 28, 2011, 03:24:29 PM
Just watched all the videos...

Did ya'll catch Cindy telling that Casey had a Winnie the Poo themed bedroom at 16 yrs old and that she'd always loved Winnie so it made sense to use that theme for the baby?

Also, if you noticed Cindy walking to the witness stand the only things she ever had with her were a bottle of water and her glasses.  She never carried a phone, purse, etc.  In fact, I've noticed that the court deputies will not allow things to be carried past the 'gate'.

As for Casey's meltdown.  PUKE.  All for Casey.  She realizes now that she stepped over a line by trying to throw her parents under the bus.  I wouldn't be surprised to hear that 6 weeks ago she also had lies to tell about Cindy other than she didn't protect KC from sexual abuse. 


Next thing you know she will accuse Cindy of sexual abuse.... ::MonkeyNoNo::
At one point I thought she might suggest Cindy's daddy abused her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 03:25:00 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

It may be an opinion but she was NOT reading anything and that is FACT.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 03:26:25 PM
Just watched all the videos...

Did ya'll catch Cindy telling that Casey had a Winnie the Poo themed bedroom at 16 yrs old and that she'd always loved Winnie so it made sense to use that theme for the baby?

Also, if you noticed Cindy walking to the witness stand the only things she ever had with her were a bottle of water and her glasses.  She never carried a phone, purse, etc.  In fact, I've noticed that the court deputies will not allow things to be carried past the 'gate'.

As for Casey's meltdown.  PUKE.  All for Casey.  She realizes now that she stepped over a line by trying to throw her parents under the bus.  I wouldn't be surprised to hear that 6 weeks ago she also had lies to tell about Cindy other than she didn't protect KC from sexual abuse. 


Next thing you know she will accuse Cindy of sexual abuse.... ::MonkeyNoNo::
At one point I thought she might suggest Cindy's daddy abused her.

that will be next..throw an 80 "s something old man under the bus to save evil Casey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 03:27:19 PM
My take on KC's meltdown........she (and her inept @ssclown attorney) believed Cindy was going to continue lying for her, & back up her bullchit 30 days of stories.
Didn't happen beotch!!!!

Cindy could have eventually believed the accidental death of Caylee......but to throw George under the bus with such horrible allegations of sexual abuse under her watch, Cindy will never go there, IMO. Cindy hearing KC lie about horrific sexual abuse by her father, finally made Cindy realize if she could lie about something so horrible & untrue against her own father, KC's version of what happened to Caylee is more than likely a total lie.


Yes, yes and yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and Yes!!!

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
Tony was disgusted with Casey...clear to see..I was soooo happy about that...
kudos to this guy! he is a stand up guy...at first I thought he was pretty cocky but since changed my mind...he just probably didn't want to be there cause of this ho bag...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/casey-anthony-trial-11-0525-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 03:29:16 PM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...

This seems to be quite clear when Cindy testified that she was still looking for a Zanny up to SIX WEEKS AGO...the very time they find out for certain what defense these @$$hats & their monster were going to put forward.   To me, that was a clear and precise message directly to Casey by Cindy from the stand & this is why Casey had a tantrum, she got it & is having a fit that they will no longer lie for her...they may be hesitate to assist putting a needle in her arm but her days of manipulating them seem to be OVA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 03:29:43 PM
Tony was disgusted with Casey...clear to see..I was soooo happy about that...
kudos to this guy! he is a stand up guy...at first I thought he was pretty cocky but since changed my mind...he just probably didn't want to be there cause of this ho bag...

Hi Cookie. Missed you yesterday.  ::HelloKitty::

I was glad to see the improvement too.

It's hard for me to get mad at him...he's cute with that cabbage patch kid face.

lol..now that u say that cabbage patch fits....cute...
hope your doc appt. went well


OMG! He does have a cabbage patch face!!!!He is too cute! She blew it!!!

Her lawyers need to see if the jail will allow her to have one of those dolls in her cell to keep her company all weekend. She looked at Tony miffed a few times but mostly like she still longed for him. "Oh my little cabbage patch kid, how I miss you."  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I bet whenever that boy got in trouble he got out of it easy. What a face!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 03:32:02 PM
Would love to hear later via People magazine that Tony met and fell in love with another witness while in Florida to testify for Casey's murder trial and that they are happy and married and having a family....oh yay... I need to write fiction...
Just wouldn't that piss Casey off? LMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 03:33:00 PM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...

It's looking that way to us here also. We're being forgiving too.

I wish they would apologize to the Grunds for trying to blame it on them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 03:35:04 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

It may be an opinion but she was NOT reading anything and that is FACT.

Lilsaa - maybe you aren't understanding.   IT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COURT - THE JUDGE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT - IT IS NEVER ALLOWED - SHE WAS NOT LOOKING DOWN AND READING ANYTHING.  IT IS NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED.  YOU ARE WRONG. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 03:35:18 PM
Also, if you look at the charges to her commisary, I see no 200.00 deposit from the 6th or whatever it was in May when Cindy supposedly put 200.00 in her commissary?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

I can't figure out how to access the commissary acct.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 03:35:25 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

It may be an opinion but she was NOT reading anything and that is FACT.
Look, it looks like this is turning into something it should not, but how is this a FACT. I observed as you did. I don't think I am being rude. I don't think I stated anything as FACT nor should. I think we should all be able to state our observations and opinions whithout being jumped on. I feel jumped on and that is unfair and rude.


Lilsaa - maybe you aren't understanding.   IT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COURT - THE JUDGE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT - IT IS NEVER ALLOWED - SHE WAS NOT LOOKING DOWN AND READING ANYTHING.  IT IS NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED.  YOU ARE WRONG.  It is not a matter of "opinion" there are rules the court follows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 03:35:51 PM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...

This seems to be quite clear when Cindy testified that she was still looking for a Zanny up to SIX WEEKS AGO...the very time they find out for certain what defense these @$$hats & their monster were going to put forward.   To me, that was a clear and precise message directly to Casey by Cindy from the stand & this is why Casey had a tantrum, she got it & is having a fit that they will no longer lie for her...they may be hesitate to assist putting a needle in her arm but her days of manipulating them seem to be OVA!

Correction:   "they may be hesitant" not hesitate


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 03:40:46 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

It may be an opinion but she was NOT reading anything and that is FACT.
Look, it looks like this is turning into something it should not, but how is this a FACT. I observed as you did. I don't think I am being rude. I don't think I stated anything as FACT nor should. I think we should all be able to state our observations and opinions whithout being jumped on. I feel jumped on and that is unfair and rude.


Lilsaa - maybe you aren't understanding.   IT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COURT - THE JUDGE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT - IT IS NEVER ALLOWED - SHE WAS NOT LOOKING DOWN AND READING ANYTHING.  IT IS NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED.  YOU ARE WRONG.  It is not a matter of "opinion" there are rules the court follows.

Lilsaa, please see Klaas's post above.   It is NOT allowed so it is FACT that she could not have been reading unless she was directed to look at an exhibit.   BLONDE, posted a raw video of Cindy leaving the stand and she had only a tissue & water bottle in her hand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 03:41:15 PM
Sorry i was in post mode & didnt see your post Klaas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 03:41:20 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

It may be an opinion but she was NOT reading anything and that is FACT.

Lilsaa - maybe you aren't understanding.   IT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COURT - THE JUDGE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT - IT IS NEVER ALLOWED - SHE WAS NOT LOOKING DOWN AND READING ANYTHING.  IT IS NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED.  YOU ARE WRONG. 

Where's the tissue Cindy was using?  Bet she was just holding on to that in her lap and thinking..... So she wouldn't also have to see/look at casey or anything on the screen?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 03:43:48 PM
Rewatching Tony's testimony today, it amazes me when you think about it. Casey Anthony is a liar, a cheater, a thief, and a murderer. I'm surprised she lasted as long as she did without actually killing someone else. She's a stone cold monster


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 03:45:04 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

It may be an opinion but she was NOT reading anything and that is FACT.
Look, it looks like this is turning into something it should not, but how is this a FACT. I observed as you did. I don't think I am being rude. I don't think I stated anything as FACT nor should. I think we should all be able to state our observations and opinions whithout being jumped on. I feel jumped on and that is unfair and rude.


Lilsaa - maybe you aren't understanding.   IT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COURT - THE JUDGE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT - IT IS NEVER ALLOWED - SHE WAS NOT LOOKING DOWN AND READING ANYTHING.  IT IS NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED.  YOU ARE WRONG.  It is not a matter of "opinion" there are rules the court follows.
I am not even the one that brought this subject up to begin with. As far as rules and it has been discussed previously The Anthonys do not follow rules. They have chewed gum, they have brought items into court that were allowed according to the judge. I really don't care if she was reading. As I said I merely agreed with someone else's observations. Why has it turned into this? OMG!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: exlurker on May 28, 2011, 03:45:18 PM
I know there is a list somewhere, but does anyone know if Leonard Padilla is on the witness list? If so, whose list?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 03:46:08 PM
Also, if you look at the charges to her commisary, I see no 200.00 deposit from the 6th or whatever it was in May when Cindy supposedly put 200.00 in her commissary?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234

I can't figure out how to access the commissary acct.
Curly, maybe they put it into the Pinellas jail acct?
BTW, casey is listed as 130 lbs   ::MonkeyHaHa::
http://www.pcsoweb.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1453694 (http://www.pcsoweb.com/InmateBooking/SubjectResults.aspx?id=1453694)
I also suspect that as the Ants were recieving their witness prep, for lack of a better word, by the state, they were clued in about the obstruction possibilities with their lawyer present. The abuse claims definitely were a defintely the deciding factor. I think the 6 weeks comment was a codespeak FU comment to KC for her horrific claims against her dad. He may be alot of bad things but he loved his girls and I dont see him as a molester at all..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 03:47:59 PM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...

This seems to be quite clear when Cindy testified that she was still looking for a Zanny up to SIX WEEKS AGO...the very time they find out for certain what defense these @$$hats & their monster were going to put forward.   To me, that was a clear and precise message directly to Casey by Cindy from the stand & this is why Casey had a tantrum, she got it & is having a fit that they will no longer lie for her...they may be hesitate to assist putting a needle in her arm but her days of manipulating them seem to be OVA!

Correction:   "they may be hesitant" not hesitate

 ::rhino:: OVA...finally!

It's great to see them doing a better job of representing Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 03:48:25 PM
I know there is a list somewhere, but does anyone know if Leonard Padilla is on the witness list? If so, whose list?
lol no one put him on their witness list
that I know of anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 03:49:01 PM
I know there is a list somewhere, but does anyone know if Leonard Padilla is on the witness list? If so, whose list?

I don't see him on the State's original witness list:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8205.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 03:49:05 PM
and as a transient, how appropriate. Casey and her traveling mattress


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 03:49:29 PM
I know there is a list somewhere, but does anyone know if Leonard Padilla is on the witness list? If so, whose list?

Not so far


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2011, 03:50:06 PM
I know there is a list somewhere, but does anyone know if Leonard Padilla is on the witness list? If so, whose list?
lol no one put him on their witness list
that I know of anyone know?

I thought that I had read "no" to him being a witness but not 100% positive


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 03:50:49 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

Cindy only had tissues & a bottle of water while testifying......so if she was reading anything, it was the label on the bottle.

Video of Cindy leaving the witness stand (with bottle & tissues) and KC's subsequent meltdown.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 03:50:56 PM
Lilsaa - Let's just say no need to question whether she was reading anything while on the stand because it would never be allowed period so no need to discuss it.  Doesn't matter who originally brought it up, it would not happen and she wasn't reading anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 03:50:57 PM
I know there is a list somewhere, but does anyone know if Leonard Padilla is on the witness list? If so, whose list?

Padilla is on a magnitude of lists.  However, as a witness in this case no.    ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 03:52:17 PM
Would love to hear later via People magazine that Tony met and fell in love with another witness while in Florida to testify for Casey's murder trial and that they are happy and married and having a family....oh yay... I need to write fiction...
Just wouldn't that piss Casey off? LMAO

lol too funny... I think she realized today that he has monved on.. or else he would have written her.? no?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 03:52:52 PM
I know there is a list somewhere, but does anyone know if Leonard Padilla is on the witness list? If so, whose list?

Padilla is on a magnitude of lists.  However, as a witness in this case no.    ::rhino::
oh yeah the brown list!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: exlurker on May 28, 2011, 03:53:30 PM
I know there is a list somewhere, but does anyone know if Leonard Padilla is on the witness list? If so, whose list?

I don't see him on the State's original witness list:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8205.0


Thank you!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 03:55:11 PM
Btw, who is this lilsaa??
Long weekend 4 the jury to think....might be a good thing.... ::MonkeyShovel::

I realy think that the jury will be busy kinda some this weekend but ... will.. realy!!!! think of todays events... when they are alone in their rooms. kinda like when after a hearing  we would lay in bed and ponder on the days events.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 03:55:14 PM
I betcha they go home and go online to read the blogs and rewatch video..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 03:55:24 PM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...

This seems to be quite clear when Cindy testified that she was still looking for a Zanny up to SIX WEEKS AGO...the very time they find out for certain what defense these @$$hats & their monster were going to put forward.   To me, that was a clear and precise message directly to Casey by Cindy from the stand & this is why Casey had a tantrum, she got it & is having a fit that they will no longer lie for her...they may be hesitate to assist putting a needle in her arm but her days of manipulating them seem to be OVA!

AMEN Sista!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 03:56:26 PM
Casey's meltdown was precisely how she behaved in her first call home from jail as well as during the jail visit video "come on nobody's letting me talk....Ive lost everything" (boo flippin boo hoo) & again how she was trying to manipulate her parents to getting her bailed out.   She isnt getting her way & her allegations are a lie.  She got her mother's message loud & clear today so she did what she always does pitched an ugly fit.   She knows the world is aware she has been lying & the jig is up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 03:58:27 PM
Btw, who is this lilsaa??
Long weekend 4 the jury to think....might be a good thing.... ::MonkeyShovel::

I realy think that the jury will be busy kinda some this weekend but ... will.. realy!!!! think of todays events... when they are alone in their rooms. kinda like when after a hearing  we would lay in bed and ponder on the days events.

IIRC, one of the Cindy's last words in her testimony today was "betrayal". I hope the jurors stew on that until Tuesday!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 03:59:10 PM
Thanks 4 the video ::MonkeyJnBox::
I can see casey is only crying about herself...To bad the jury can't see this.
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 03:59:15 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 28, 2011, 03:59:36 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.

I remember the days that Cindy looked wistfully at KC, begging with her eyes for KC to look at her.  Cold, spiteful KC wouldn't do it.  You see how ridiculous her thinking is!



I agree!!! And as horrible as I think some of poor Cindy's decisions have been I feel sorry for her and at least she is doing the right thing when it is most important!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:00:12 PM
there is nothing that her attorneys can do that will help casey. They have to try it
s their job! it's going to be very challenging for them to figure out what to do!

kc is begining to see how screwed she is... it hasnt realy soaked in all the way until the weeks move on and its all pointing to her and only her...

bozo and mason will go enjoy their weekend while she sits in jail melting down...I see a few anxiety attacks in the works.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
Btw, who is this lilsaa??
Long weekend 4 the jury to think....might be a good thing.... ::MonkeyShovel::

I realy think that the jury will be busy kinda some this weekend but ... will.. realy!!!! think of todays events... when they are alone in their rooms. kinda like when after a hearing  we would lay in bed and ponder on the days events.

IIRC, one of the Cindy's last words in her testimony today was "betrayal". I hope the jurors stew on that until Tuesday!
seem
thanks because I was trying to recall where I heard that word twice today. Tony said he felt betrayed by her lies tooo... that all happened today... the jury heard him and cindy saying the same words ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:03:47 PM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...

This seems to be quite clear when Cindy testified that she was still looking for a Zanny up to SIX WEEKS AGO...the very time they find out for certain what defense these @$$hats & their monster were going to put forward.   To me, that was a clear and precise message directly to Casey by Cindy from the stand & this is why Casey had a tantrum, she got it & is having a fit that they will no longer lie for her...they may be hesitate to assist putting a needle in her arm but her days of manipulating them seem to be OVA!

AMEN Sista!!!
helleluer''


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 28, 2011, 04:04:35 PM
For how long did casey lie about her "job" at Universal?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Puzzler

I agree.

Considering Cindy conceded that she was the author ... why was the Myspace post not allowed into evidence?

Janet
 

I "think" it was because of talking about money issues and coming from the bank - IMO, KC messed with Cindy's money again and that was the "betrayed" part in the MySpace post.  Maybe after some more questioning the "post" will eventually come in.



Only explanation I can think of as well but then again when it was ruled it was coming in, all parties including CJBP were aware of the content of the Myspace entry so I would love to know what was determined by CJBP.   Also, the money stolen was not what she was convicted for but rather money she stole from her parents & grandparents.  I gotta tell ya Im rather stunned by it.   We also do not know yet if it is NEVER coming in or whether something has to be established before it is allowed in.

I so don't get it either.  He ruled on many of those pictures too and Bozo keeps objecting.  Thank God I am not a lawyer, my client would be found guilty, LOL.  I thought all texts were allowed too?  I don't get it.

I didn't get why bozo hardly objected while Cindy was speaking.  I was thiking Bozo and Pros made a deal?  they won't object on some witness, if Bozo does not object?

Bozo MIGHT of saw Bill Shaeffers interview update about beating up George and how the jury will that it.......Do it with Cindy, jury will diffidently hate bozo/casey.????????
 ::MonkeyShovel::

 


I think it was allowed because of the money issue, and leads one to believe the stealing has been going on for some time.  But, moreover, IMO, was the motive... "jealousy"  Jealousy has taken her away...

I agree with someone who said Caylee was maybe crying for grama and KC was getting pissed, and shut it down once and for all.  We've all seen that raging, shaking temper of hers, that says "get the bleep out the way"!! 

I have been wondering if the Teddy Bear Cindy has been holding the first few days of trial, is the one she said disappeared from her home.  Did they find it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 04:07:01 PM
Bill Shaeffer........ ::MonkeyBike::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28059284/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 04:07:37 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

It may be an opinion but she was NOT reading anything and that is FACT.

Lilsaa - maybe you aren't understanding.   IT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COURT - THE JUDGE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT - IT IS NEVER ALLOWED - SHE WAS NOT LOOKING DOWN AND READING ANYTHING.  IT IS NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED.  YOU ARE WRONG. 

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image8-2.png) Pic by Brandi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:07:42 PM
For how long did casey lie about her "job" at Universal?


From April 2006


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 04:07:53 PM
obviously, I meant NOT allowed... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 28, 2011, 04:07:56 PM
and as a transient, how appropriate. Casey and her traveling mattress
dont forget the air pump now! ::piggy::
No need for a pump -- casey was pretty good at blowing.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 04:08:54 PM


If you see the previous comments someone said that Baez was texting while she is on the stand ( picture of Baez texting also and if you see her on the stand  notice she is definetly looking down reading something. Don't know if a text or papers. I merely agreed with the commenter because I noticed this also.
IMO- I, of course, may be totally wrong about they being in on a tactic to save Casey's life I still have the same opinion of Cindy and George regarding doing ANYTHING to protect Casey ( As he testified in a pre-trial hearing) IMO- including being thrown under the bus.

There is ZERO way that Judge Perry would allow Cindy to be looking at her phone or texting someone while on the stand.  It is not possible.  

Absolutely not
Ok, so what is it that she is looking at every few minutes? I really don't believe the judge would allow tht but I am curious as to what she is looking at because she is absolutely reading something. She looks down and reads something every few minutes. Is a witness allowed to read notes or depo's while on the stand??

NO, not unless it is requested in court that she read something and it is put in front of her and everyone knows what she has in front of her.  SHE WAS NOT READING ANYTHING.  She was looking down, composing herself, looking away from Casey, looking away from the photo of Caylee, but NOT, I repeat, NOT texting or reading "crib notes".
No disrespect, but IMO she absolutely was reading and looking down reading something. What it was I have no idea.

It may be an opinion but she was NOT reading anything and that is FACT.

Lilsaa - maybe you aren't understanding.   IT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COURT - THE JUDGE WOULD NOT ALLOW IT - IT IS NEVER ALLOWED - SHE WAS NOT LOOKING DOWN AND READING ANYTHING.  IT IS NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED.  YOU ARE WRONG. 

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image8-2.png) Pic by Brandi

She is simply looking down, probably praying that she can get through this. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:10:45 PM
July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”



This wording makes so much more sense to me at this time.



Puzzler

I agree.

Considering Cindy conceded that she was the author ... why was the Myspace post not allowed into evidence?

Janet
 

I "think" it was because of talking about money issues and coming from the bank - IMO, KC messed with Cindy's money again and that was the "betrayed" part in the MySpace post.  Maybe after some more questioning the "post" will eventually come in.



Only explanation I can think of as well but then again when it was ruled it was coming in, all parties including CJBP were aware of the content of the Myspace entry so I would love to know what was determined by CJBP.   Also, the money stolen was not what she was convicted for but rather money she stole from her parents & grandparents.  I gotta tell ya Im rather stunned by it.   We also do not know yet if it is NEVER coming in or whether something has to be established before it is allowed in.

I so don't get it either.  He ruled on many of those pictures too and Bozo keeps objecting.  Thank God I am not a lawyer, my client would be found guilty, LOL.  I thought all texts were allowed too?  I don't get it.

I didn't get why bozo hardly objected while Cindy was speaking.  I was thiking Bozo and Pros made a deal?  they won't object on some witness, if Bozo does not object?

Bozo MIGHT of saw Bill Shaeffers interview update about beating up George and how the jury will that it.......Do it with Cindy, jury will diffidently hate bozo/casey.????????
 ::MonkeyShovel::

 


I think it was allowed because of the money issue, and leads one to believe the stealing has been going on for some time.  But, moreover, IMO, was the motive... "jealousy"  Jealousy has taken her away...

I agree with someone who said Caylee was maybe crying for grama and KC was getting pissed, and shut it down once and for all.  We've all seen that raging, shaking temper of hers, that says "get the bleep out the way"!! 

I have been wondering if the Teddy Bear Cindy has been holding the first few days of trial, is the one she said disappeared from her home.  Did they find it?

Upon reflection I think it will come in when Lee testifies since he opened the page for Cindy.  Then besides the author of the note, the account will be authenticated for who opened it & put a picture up


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:11:31 PM
and as a transient, how appropriate. Casey and her traveling mattress
dont forget the air pump now! ::piggy::
No need for a pump -- casey was pretty good at blowing.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Yup, he went there  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mchenry on May 28, 2011, 04:11:33 PM
We can be here until the end of July with Cindy and her narrative of KC's lies  ::MonkeyHaHa::
That's ok with me, all these lies need to come out.

This will linger all weekend with the jury because its doubtful bozo will be getting a chance to cross bully
Capp -You are so right! Baez comes across line a School Yard Bully!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 28, 2011, 04:11:54 PM
For how long did casey lie about her "job" at Universal?


From April 2006
2 YEARS???? That's just proof of being a sociopathic liar in itself. I realize she was STEALING money -- but she had to have SOME kind of income..........................hooking? "films"??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 04:12:28 PM
Casey's meltdown was precisely how she behaved in her first call home from jail as well as during the jail visit video "come on nobody's letting me talk....Ive lost everything" (boo flippin boo hoo) & again how she was trying to manipulate her parents to getting her bailed out.   She isnt getting her way & her allegations are a lie.  She got her mother's message loud & clear today so she did what she always does pitched an ugly fit.   She knows the world is aware she has been lying & the jig is up.
Maybe queen evil was attempting to further manipulate one of her attorneys, an effort to elicit more sympathy from Simms?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
The ONLY things Cindy brought up with her were her reading glasses, tissue paper, and a bottle of water. No phone, no notes, no paper of any kind. She can't read anything on the witness stand


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 04:14:47 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28057616/index.html

what the hell is she smiling about and can Baez not arrange for an ironed shirt?? Heck, she looked better during the jury selection... Maybe that hideous new, child abandoning, convict lovin' new attorney is doin the pickn' now....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Terri on May 28, 2011, 04:15:27 PM
I am so taken aback....it is as if UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES can KC keep her true self from coming through when dealing with her mother.  Throughout this entire ordeal she has been mean and nasty to Cindy and Cindy has all but kissed her a$$.  And now, with all eyes on her, KC is still shooting daggers at Cindy, still self centered and mean mouthing Cindy for "not being there for her".

I believe KC is able to feel some emotions but compartmenatlizes everything...except when with Cindy.  I have seen KC soul less and cold, but I think she shows even more evil when with Cindy.

I cannot believe her attorneys are not explaining how she is to behave or how to portray herself during the different testimonies.  Strange.

I strongly believe Cindy knows, Cindy is being so detailed that the defense cannot use her, and that she is done.  Should by some strange turn of events KC is released, she will have no family support.   She has, and continues to do herself in.   I am just wondering why Cindy put that large amount  of money in KC's jail account.

Terri
Ohio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 28, 2011, 04:16:19 PM
I wish the state would ask Cindy, knowing what you know now, where do you think Caylee was for the 2006, 2007 and 2008, when KC told you Zanny was watching Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:16:53 PM
For how long did casey lie about her "job" at Universal?


From April 2006
2 YEARS???? That's just proof of being a sociopathic liar in itself. I realize she was STEALING money -- but she had to have SOME kind of income..........................hooking? "films"??

Stealing from family & friends.  I wouldnt be at all shocked if she sold drugs and/or did some hooking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 28, 2011, 04:18:20 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.

I remember the days that Cindy looked wistfully at KC, begging with her eyes for KC to look at her.  Cold, spiteful KC wouldn't do it.  You see how ridiculous her thinking is!

Payback is hell... typical brat...she can dish it out but can't take it. Cindy had better get ready... kc will be telling her lawyers to chew cindy up to pieces... but good luck with that. Lol. If they didn't learn from depositions with the A's before when the State was dealing with them or Morgan...oi. lol. Kc is super angry now. On the day she needed her mother to mouth those I love you's to her the most, cindy just walked right out with not one glance at her daughter. I wonder if her cindy look a like lawyer and mason was trying to convince kc otherwise..."oh she did but the officer was in the way and you missed it...I saw it kc, calm down." Nuh uh...she needed that look from her mother today, (not before when she didn't need it to serve any purpose, today when she needed it on her own terms), and her mother didn't do it. To kc, this means hell to pay...worse than what she had planned. She was waiting for that look and was  ::monkeydenied::

Hear! Hear!  Love this post!

Sorry for the stack, but I think this is why the attorneys left by the door going back to the jail. I think they were going to have a real talk down with her. Either they have determined she is totally lying and want to straighten that out (which I think they already knew) or they are going to talk to her about possibly testifying or asking for a plea bargain. Something is going down with them today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 04:20:48 PM
I wish the state would ask Cindy, knowing what you know now, where do you think Caylee was for the 2006, 2007 and 2008, when KC told you Zanny was watching Caylee?
Exactly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:21:09 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.

I remember the days that Cindy looked wistfully at KC, begging with her eyes for KC to look at her.  Cold, spiteful KC wouldn't do it.  You see how ridiculous her thinking is!

Payback is hell... typical brat...she can dish it out but can't take it. Cindy had better get ready... kc will be telling her lawyers to chew cindy up to pieces... but good luck with that. Lol. If they didn't learn from depositions with the A's before when the State was dealing with them or Morgan...oi. lol. Kc is super angry now. On the day she needed her mother to mouth those I love you's to her the most, cindy just walked right out with not one glance at her daughter. I wonder if her cindy look a like lawyer and mason was trying to convince kc otherwise..."oh she did but the officer was in the way and you missed it...I saw it kc, calm down." Nuh uh...she needed that look from her mother today, (not before when she didn't need it to serve any purpose, today when she needed it on her own terms), and her mother didn't do it. To kc, this means hell to pay...worse than what she had planned. She was waiting for that look and was  ::monkeydenied::

Hear! Hear!  Love this post!

Sorry for the stack, but I think this is why the attorneys left by the door going back to the jail. I think they were going to have a real talk down with her. Either they have determined she is totally lying and want to straighten that out (which I think they already knew) or they are going to talk to her about possibly testifying or asking for a plea bargain. Something is going down with them today.

Turbo
I sure hope you are right! but somethings up...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:23:06 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 28, 2011, 04:24:58 PM
I think Cindy was her last gasp hope of anyone lying for her .......................... that bubble burst today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:25:12 PM
I wish the state would ask Cindy, knowing what you know now, where do you think Caylee was for the 2006, 2007 and 2008, when KC told you Zanny was watching Caylee?
Exactly!
this is the first week so anything can be said and done as we progress.
It is going to be to the states advantage .... Its in the bag for the state... so it seems.
I be the jury is going to hate this if baez with his inexperience drags this on. if they could they would prolly say ok judge we have made a decision... guilty...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
I think Cindy was her last gasp hope of anyone lying for her .......................... that bubble burst today.
I agree cindy was the only ally she had... she thoguht and now she has an idea that lee has alot more to say that will hurt her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:26:22 PM
Remember Baez's opening?  He said when KC is figured out, she just comes up with a bigger, better, newer lie?

Well...the defense can deal with her now!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 04:26:23 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:27:05 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?

They can beg but the State doesnt have to offer one despite how hard they plead.  If that were ever to occur, I also think it is extremely doubtful that they would accept anything other than LWOP with a full confession & NOT one of an "accident" that is for darn sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:28:18 PM
I am so taken aback....it is as if UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES can KC keep her true self from coming through when dealing with her mother.  Throughout this entire ordeal she has been mean and nasty to Cindy and Cindy has all but kissed her a$$.  And now, with all eyes on her, KC is still shooting daggers at Cindy, still self centered and mean mouthing Cindy for "not being there for her".

I believe KC is able to feel some emotions but compartmenatlizes everything...except when with Cindy.  I have seen KC soul less and cold, but I think she shows even more evil when with Cindy.

I cannot believe her attorneys are not explaining how she is to behave or how to portray herself during the different testimonies.  Strange.

I strongly believe Cindy knows, Cindy is being so detailed that the defense cannot use her, and that she is done.  Should by some strange turn of events KC is released, she will have no family support.   She has, and continues to do herself in.   I am just wondering why Cindy put that large amount  of money in KC's jail account.

Terri
Ohio
yeah and think about it! cindy and george have done this to help her at the risk of obstruction charges! now they have seen the light and realize that they go go to jail for obstructing and... she is treating them with disrespect by saying lies to get herself cleared


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:28:26 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?

They can beg but the State doesnt have to offer one despite how hard they plead.  If that were ever to occur, I also think it is extremely doubtful that they would accept anything other than LWOP with a full confession & NOT one of an "accident" that is for darn sure.

And she's NEVER going to tell the truth.

Just as Evil went and took the Teddy so mom couldn't have that comfort; Evil will never let mom know the truth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:30:04 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:30:24 PM
I am so taken aback....it is as if UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES can KC keep her true self from coming through when dealing with her mother.  Throughout this entire ordeal she has been mean and nasty to Cindy and Cindy has all but kissed her a$$.  And now, with all eyes on her, KC is still shooting daggers at Cindy, still self centered and mean mouthing Cindy for "not being there for her".

I believe KC is able to feel some emotions but compartmenatlizes everything...except when with Cindy.  I have seen KC soul less and cold, but I think she shows even more evil when with Cindy.

I cannot believe her attorneys are not explaining how she is to behave or how to portray herself during the different testimonies.  Strange.

I strongly believe Cindy knows, Cindy is being so detailed that the defense cannot use her, and that she is done.  Should by some strange turn of events KC is released, she will have no family support.   She has, and continues to do herself in.   I am just wondering why Cindy put that large amount  of money in KC's jail account.

Terri
Ohio
yeah and think about it! cindy and george have done this to help her at the risk of obstruction charges! now they have seen the light and realize that they go go to jail for obstructing and... she is treating them with disrespect by saying lies to get herself cleared

either cindy put that much money to last her along time because they had a feeling ... the bus was head their way or...  they thought she was going to do them in and  they wanted to bribe her with love and money?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 04:31:14 PM
I think Cindy was her last gasp hope of anyone lying for her .......................... that bubble burst today.

 :smt073


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
For how long did casey lie about her "job" at Universal?

I believe since 2006.  I think she went back for a while when Caylee was 3 months old but that probably didn't last long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:33:38 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.
capp
you may have it there! would they know what he is going to say?  and therefore preparing a comeback?
on and yes tony did  not say what they thought he would! baez counted heavily on tony! to say what he wanted to hear ... do you think tony's attitude changed for the better! and came back resentful that she  would betray him. He seemed angry towards that today didnt he?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 04:34:28 PM
I wish the state would ask Cindy, knowing what you know now, where do you think Caylee was for the 2006, 2007 and 2008, when KC told you Zanny was watching Caylee?
Exactly!

That question probably would not be allowed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 28, 2011, 04:36:10 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: BabsKats on May 28, 2011, 04:36:17 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.
Whenever KC departed from the courtroom this week I believe it was through the door further down on the right!  Simms had to stand up to let her pass each time.....

The room (door behind CM)  that she and Attnys went through today was one that Bozo had pointed at when JP asked where the files they seemed to continously need and not have on hand were stored?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 04:38:17 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.
Surely that has to be it, he already warned the defense that it would happen and they didn't back off.  I don't see how the defense can be forced to do anything by an attorney for a witness.  If the witness doesn't want to answer a question they can refuse by taking the 5th.  I think  ::MonkeyHaHa::.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
I am so taken aback....it is as if UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES can KC keep her true self from coming through when dealing with her mother.  Throughout this entire ordeal she has been mean and nasty to Cindy and Cindy has all but kissed her a$$.  And now, with all eyes on her, KC is still shooting daggers at Cindy, still self centered and mean mouthing Cindy for "not being there for her".

I believe KC is able to feel some emotions but compartmenatlizes everything...except when with Cindy.  I have seen KC soul less and cold, but I think she shows even more evil when with Cindy.

I cannot believe her attorneys are not explaining how she is to behave or how to portray herself during the different testimonies.  Strange.

I strongly believe Cindy knows, Cindy is being so detailed that the defense cannot use her, and that she is done.  Should by some strange turn of events KC is released, she will have no family support.   She has, and continues to do herself in.   I am just wondering why Cindy put that large amount  of money in KC's jail account.

Terri
Ohio
yeah and think about it! cindy and george have done this to help her at the risk of obstruction charges! now they have seen the light and realize that they go go to jail for obstructing and... she is treating them with disrespect by saying lies to get herself cleared

either cindy put that much money to last her along time because they had a feeling ... the bus was head their way or...  they thought she was going to do them in and  they wanted to bribe her with love and money?

If you look a few pages back in the thread, some nice monkey posted a commisary list from the jail - there was NO MONEY posted.  It must have been a letter that Cindy delivered to the jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 04:40:43 PM
I wish the state would ask Cindy, knowing what you know now, where do you think Caylee was for the 2006, 2007 and 2008, when KC told you Zanny was watching Caylee?
Exactly!
this is the first week so anything can be said and done as we progress.
It is going to be to the states advantage .... Its in the bag for the state... so it seems.
I be the jury is going to hate this if baez with his inexperience drags this on. if they could they would prolly say ok judge we have made a decision... guilty...
Loca, I noticed you asked who I am earlier. I am someone that has been following the case and reading this blog for a long time now because I want Justice for Caylee. I have rarely posted until the trial. I also agree that it is in the bag for the pro's with the evidence they have and hope all the jurors will see past what the defense claim in thier opening statements.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 04:40:48 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.
Whenever KC departed from the courtroom this week I believe it was through the door further down on the right!  Simms had to stand up to let her pass each time.....

The room (door behind CM)  that she and Attnys went through today was one that Bozo had pointed at when JP asked where the files they seemed to continously need and not have on hand were stored?????

But remember, a court bailif would be with them at all times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:40:57 PM
I wish the state would ask Cindy, knowing what you know now, where do you think Caylee was for the 2006, 2007 and 2008, when KC told you Zanny was watching Caylee?
Exactly!

That question probably would not be allowed.

Calls for speculation


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.
I don't think he pays much attention to what he can and can't do, he does what he pleases.  Reminds me of his client  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:41:27 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.
Surely that has to be it, he already warned the defense that it would happen and they didn't back off.  I don't see how the defense can be forced to do anything by an attorney for a witness.  If the witness doesn't want to answer a question they can refuse by taking the 5th.  I think  ::MonkeyHaHa::.

I'm wondering if there's anything Lippman could file wrt Baez's bulling tactics in cross-examination - considering the experience that George has had multiple times, in connection with the "soon" to be cross-examination of Cindy by Baez.  I'm wondering it if's something to do about Cindy.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:41:49 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28059284/index.html
bill shaeffer/kathi belich


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 04:42:13 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 04:43:13 PM
Get a clue KC......did you really think your momma was going to go along with your "new" story???? (only your @ssclown lawyers are stupid enough) You've told your parents the "nanny" kidnapped Caylee as the TRUTH for 3 years!
Doing a 180 to an accidental death is one thing (plausible)........but to throw in daddy was there, covered up the death, + sexual abuse, & then the meter reader found Caylee's body and moved it to Suburban Drive?????? as your NEW truth???

Really??? ::MonkeyMad::

Get acquainted with the non-fiction area of the prison library.....maybe the book
"How to Tell the Truth for Dummies" would help you, but I doubt it....you're about 3 yrs too late!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 04:43:14 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.
Whenever KC departed from the courtroom this week I believe it was through the door further down on the right!  Simms had to stand up to let her pass each time.....

The room (door behind CM)  that she and Attnys went through today was one that Bozo had pointed at when JP asked where the files they seemed to continously need and not have on hand were stored?????
That's interesting!  Maybe they needed her to use her newly found paralegal skills  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:43:21 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Ha! Maybe Cindy couldn't stand to look at KC, so Cindy didn't look at KC so that it wouldn't hurt Cindy.  ha!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 28, 2011, 04:44:27 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.
I don't think he pays much attention to what he can and can't do, he does what he pleases.  Reminds me of his client  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I understand that we all hate his antics in the court, but knowingly allowing his client to lie WILL get him disbarred.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:45:03 PM
I wish the state would ask Cindy, knowing what you know now, where do you think Caylee was for the 2006, 2007 and 2008, when KC told you Zanny was watching Caylee?
Exactly!
this is the first week so anything can be said and done as we progress.
It is going to be to the states advantage .... Its in the bag for the state... so it seems.
I be the jury is going to hate this if baez with his inexperience drags this on. if they could they would prolly say ok judge we have made a decision... guilty...
Loca, I noticed you asked who I am earlier. I am someone that has been following the case and reading this blog for a long time now because I want Justice for Caylee. I have rarely posted until the trial. I also agree that it is in the bag for the pro's with the evidence they have and hope all the jurors will see past what the defense claim in thier opening statements.

If u scroll back it was not me that asked who you were!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:45:33 PM
I'm thinking that if Baez "bullies" Cindy on the stand, that George won't be able to handle that as well as he handled Baez bulling him.  We've heard George say before that he's had to help Cindy to keep her from losing her mind.  I can see George really getting upset if Baez treats Cindy the way he did George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shan1628 on May 28, 2011, 04:45:56 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.

JMO, but I believe that is exactly what it's about.  Lippman was on the Today Show this week saying he was ready and willing to file charges on behalf of his clients if he felt that it was necessary.  I think it may have become necessary....Again, JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Terri on May 28, 2011, 04:47:43 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?

I strongly believe KC's true colors shown during Cindy's testimony, demonstrates that KC will go down fighting...she is so mean and so vengeful she will never take a plea deal.  She is going to want to "shown them".

Terri


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 04:48:23 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.
Surely that has to be it, he already warned the defense that it would happen and they didn't back off.  I don't see how the defense can be forced to do anything by an attorney for a witness.  If the witness doesn't want to answer a question they can refuse by taking the 5th.  I think  ::MonkeyHaHa::.

I'm wondering if there's anything Lippman could file wrt Baez's bulling tactics in cross-examination - considering the experience that George has had multiple times, in connection with the "soon" to be cross-examination of Cindy by Baez.  I'm wondering it if's something to do about Cindy.


Could very well be about Cindy.  You just reminded me of a thought I had yesterday when Baez was questioning George.  A couple of times he managed to get what I heard as rather negative answers about Cindy.  At the time I took it as preparation for a blame Cindy defense since the blame George defense didn't pan out. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:48:43 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.
I don't think he pays much attention to what he can and can't do, he does what he pleases.  Reminds me of his client  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I understand that we all hate his antics in the court, but knowingly allowing his client to lie WILL get him disbarred.

In that case, there's NO WAY Baez can call KC to the stand.  I'm sure by now that Baez has discovered that KC has lied to him.
He has no Tony statement that George molested KC.  He has no Jesse statement that George molested KC.  There's NOTHING.
Ergo, Baez cannon fullfill his promises to the jury during his opening statement. 

Guess what....we're only 4.5 days into the trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: lilsaa on May 28, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
I wish the state would ask Cindy, knowing what you know now, where do you think Caylee was for the 2006, 2007 and 2008, when KC told you Zanny was watching Caylee?
Exactly!
this is the first week so anything can be said and done as we progress.
It is going to be to the states advantage .... Its in the bag for the state... so it seems.
I be the jury is going to hate this if baez with his inexperience drags this on. if they could they would prolly say ok judge we have made a decision... guilty...
Loca, I noticed you asked who I am earlier. I am someone that has been following the case and reading this blog for a long time now because I want Justice for Caylee. I have rarely posted until the trial. I also agree that it is in the bag for the pro's with the evidence they have and hope all the jurors will see past what the defense claim in thier opening statements.

If u scroll back it was not me that asked who you were!!
Ok, sorry I thought is was you I will scroll back


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Terri on May 28, 2011, 04:50:28 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.
I don't think he pays much attention to what he can and can't do, he does what he pleases.  Reminds me of his client  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I understand that we all hate his antics in the court, but knowingly allowing his client to lie WILL get him disbarred.

Thank you so much for giving this info....I just kept wondering if he and KC could make up a story and expect it to fly.  I feel so much better knowing he cannot.

Terri


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 04:50:48 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.
I don't think he pays much attention to what he can and can't do, he does what he pleases.  Reminds me of his client  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I understand that we all hate his antics in the court, but knowingly allowing his client to lie WILL get him disbarred.
IMO, he believes he is untouchable. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 04:51:24 PM
I am watching Tony's testimony now. I missed it this am. He went from cocky to hero in a few days. He has become very likeable and I hope the Ants realize it too. How odd for a mother of a missing child to comment about being in handcuffs in the back of the police car and taking a shower. She is so self absorbed. Any normal human would be crazy with worry for thier beloved child. The jury will see it too. I can hardly watch her anymore, she is disgusting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:52:30 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:53:02 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!
what is weird here! all that time they have covered their mouths so no one could lip read! and now today ironicaly they dont.. she dont!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 04:53:32 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.

I think Baez is stupid enough to think he can get away with it.  I think he knows damn well she killed Caylee.  Once a sleazy ambulance chaser....always an ambulance chaser. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 40 seconds it's "...........and she's not even going to try now?!"

wonder what the ............. was. I can imagine, lol, but trying to figure it out.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:55:02 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: yuknomenot on May 28, 2011, 04:55:05 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.
Whenever KC departed from the courtroom this week I believe it was through the door further down on the right!  Simms had to stand up to let her pass each time.....

The room (door behind CM)  that she and Attnys went through today was one that Bozo had pointed at when JP asked where the files they seemed to continously need and not have on hand were stored?????

But remember, a court bailif would be with them at all times.
But would the bailiff actually go in the room or would he be required to stand outside the door because of attorney/client privilege?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 04:55:21 PM
The attorneys filed out with KC today and my guess is they were going to discuss Cindys testimony and what thier line of questioning will be. KC knows best how to get her goat.... I have to miss Tuesday morning to be with my dad.. he will be having a hip replacement.... I wish I had an ipad...  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 04:56:15 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.

I remember the days that Cindy looked wistfully at KC, begging with her eyes for KC to look at her.  Cold, spiteful KC wouldn't do it.  You see how ridiculous her thinking is!

Payback is hell... typical brat...she can dish it out but can't take it. Cindy had better get ready... kc will be telling her lawyers to chew cindy up to pieces... but good luck with that. Lol. If they didn't learn from depositions with the A's before when the State was dealing with them or Morgan...oi. lol. Kc is super angry now. On the day she needed her mother to mouth those I love you's to her the most, cindy just walked right out with not one glance at her daughter. I wonder if her cindy look a like lawyer and mason was trying to convince kc otherwise..."oh she did but the officer was in the way and you missed it...I saw it kc, calm down." Nuh uh...she needed that look from her mother today, (not before when she didn't need it to serve any purpose, today when she needed it on her own terms), and her mother didn't do it. To kc, this means hell to pay...worse than what she had planned. She was waiting for that look and was  ::monkeydenied::

Hear! Hear!  Love this post!

Sorry for the stack, but I think this is why the attorneys left by the door going back to the jail. I think they were going to have a real talk down with her. Either they have determined she is totally lying and want to straighten that out (which I think they already knew) or they are going to talk to her about possibly testifying or asking for a plea bargain. Something is going down with them today.

I think they're asking her if she wants them to bring Cindy to her knees.
They have to know she's been lying to them form the get go.
They have to know she's going down.
Their only purpose is to save her from the needle and that's where the "fun" for Mason will come in..by destroying what Casey hasn't already destroyed...
I'm certain after today's display, Casey is more than willing to go above and beyond to take Cindy down.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 04:56:29 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!
what is weird here! all that time they have covered their mouths so no one could lip read! and now today ironicaly they dont.. she dont!!

That's psychos for ya. Plus, she's so full of herself...she wants her mother to know she's angry and she doesn't realize how stupid she is...she thinks she's freakin brilliant in her little world. Cwazy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bikerbev on May 28, 2011, 04:57:13 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!
Geez, it's still all about her.  My kids used to come home from school on report card day and tell the teacher 'gave' them a bad grade.  I had to tell them if they got a bad grade it was probably because they didn't do their work...the teacher doesn't just give you a bad grade.  Same here with Casey when she said her mother did that to deliberately hurt her.  She acts and says such childish things. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:57:19 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.

I think Baez is stupid enough to think he can get away with it.  I think he knows damn well she killed Caylee.  Once a sleazy ambulance chaser....always an ambulance chaser. 

I think it's worse than that.  I think that Baez knows she's guilty, going for broke and threw it all in, probably never imagined it would turn upside down for in within the first week of the trial.  I really think that Baez just wants to get a murder trial under his belt.  It's all about Baez. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:57:50 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?

I strongly believe KC's true colors shown during Cindy's testimony, demonstrates that KC will go down fighting...she is so mean and so vengeful she will never take a plea deal.  She is going to want to "shown them".

Terri


kc is prpeparing a revenge tactic on cindy..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:58:01 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 04:59:12 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?

I strongly believe KC's true colors shown during Cindy's testimony, demonstrates that KC will go down fighting...she is so mean and so vengeful she will never take a plea deal.  She is going to want to "shown them".

Terri


kc is prpeparing a revenge tactic on cindy..


Casey seems to forget that she's the one on trial for felony murder, child neglect & lying to an officer


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 04:59:37 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.

I think Baez is stupid enough to think he can get away with it.  I think he knows damn well she killed Caylee.  Once a sleazy ambulance chaser....always an ambulance chaser. 

I think it's worse than that.  I think that Baez knows she's guilty, going for broke and threw it all in, probably never imagined it would turn upside down for in within the first week of the trial.  I really think that Baez just wants to get a murder trial under his belt.  It's all about Baez. 


I agree... he must also be reading the comments people are making about him... thats including attorneys/and other legal eagals!! its about him winning but right now he is loosing!!
mason needs to see baez is messing up and he is lead attorney! he isnt allowing mason to speak for him because of his ego!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 04:59:47 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Sorry - mount s/b "mouth"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:00:52 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?

I strongly believe KC's true colors shown during Cindy's testimony, demonstrates that KC will go down fighting...she is so mean and so vengeful she will never take a plea deal.  She is going to want to "shown them".

Terri


kc is prpeparing a revenge tactic on cindy..


Casey seems to forget that she's the one on trial for felony murder, child neglect & lying to an officer
It will be a very powerful testimony whenLE gets up there and give the  truth about her lying from day 1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 28, 2011, 05:01:04 PM
Let's all go out on the longest, shakiest limb we can find for a second and assume casey is telling the absolute truth about being molested by George while Caylee wandered out to the backyard and somehow put the ladder up to the pool, climbed in and drowned. That still could never explain her actions and lack of emotion about her dead daughter for weeks and weeks like nothing was unusual at all. NO ONE could put on a charade like that. The mere mention of Caylee's name would send any NORMAL mother into a flood of tears reagardless of how it happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 05:01:56 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.

I think Baez is stupid enough to think he can get away with it.  I think he knows damn well she killed Caylee.  Once a sleazy ambulance chaser....always an ambulance chaser. 

I think it's worse than that.  I think that Baez knows she's guilty, going for broke and threw it all in, probably never imagined it would turn upside down for in within the first week of the trial.  I really think that Baez just wants to get a murder trial under his belt.  It's all about Baez. 

I have felt the same way. She is going to have a rude awakening some time down the road when none of the people sitting around her are gone and NEVER visit her...her faux family. She is an opportunity to the opportunist


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 05:02:36 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by

Okay....it looked to me like Cindy took her right thumb and brushed it across her left cheek

Did I get it right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 05:03:23 PM
Gregg Jarret on Foxnews (cable) is going to go over today's testimony at some point in this hour


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 05:04:01 PM
Also looks to me like KC can't stand that Cindy was obviously comforted by probably Lippman and George.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:04:08 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!
what is weird here! all that time they have covered their mouths so no one could lip read! and now today ironicaly they dont.. she dont!!

That's psychos for ya. Plus, she's so full of herself...she wants her mother to know she's angry and she doesn't realize how stupid she is...she thinks she's freakin brilliant in her little world. Cwazy!
nickandnora
she knows her mom will watch the t.v highlights of today??
NO  covering the mouth today.. sending mom a message...I am glad that george embraced cindy after testifying.. they need to bond and fix whats wrong in the marriage. I have a feeling alot of their marriage issues had to do with caseys ... divide and conquer mentality.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 05:04:14 PM
I have felt the same way. She is going to have a rude awakening some time down the road when none of the people sitting around her are gone there and NEVER visit her...her faux family. She is an opportunity to the opportunist

*edited by me


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 05:04:16 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by

Did she give kc the finger while she wiped remnants of tears from her face?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:05:14 PM
Also looks to me like KC can't stand that Cindy was obviously comforted by probably Lippman and George.


omg exactly!!  lippman has been coaching them..seems like huh?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 05:05:40 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by

Okay....it looked to me like Cindy took her right thumb and brushed it across her left cheek

Did I get it right?

Yup & then Casey mimicked it to a degree as she begins her hissy fit & she does say something to the effect "she did that to deliberately hurt me."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:06:52 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by

Did she give kc the finger while she wiped remnants of tears from her face?  ::MonkeyEek::

dontthink cindy looked her way if she would have lol
lol the jury prolly thinks this is a twisted woman being portrayed as a child.. maybe kc was like the girl in the exorcist.. and another girl comes to mind with blonde hair with pig tails that was evil!! anyone ?? know who that is?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 05:07:02 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?

I strongly believe KC's true colors shown during Cindy's testimony, demonstrates that KC will go down fighting...she is so mean and so vengeful she will never take a plea deal.  She is going to want to "shown them".

Terri


kc is prpeparing a revenge tactic on cindy..


Casey seems to forget that she's the one on trial for felony murder, child neglect & lying to an officer

Sickos like that take projection to the nth degree don't they. Sheesh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 05:07:30 PM
Well, it looks like she did it to the prosecution side, and when the camera zooms in on horseface, she wasn't even looking. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by

Did she give kc the finger while she wiped remnants of tears from her face?  ::MonkeyEek::

She was using pretty much one finger to wipe her tears away through  most of the testimony.  I made a note of it, because she was genuinely crying, and I like to know the difference between a real boohoo and what her signature tear-wiping is, and what a fake one might alternately look like.

As jaded as I can be about the Ants, I felt horrible for her today when she saw little Caylee's bed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 05:07:52 PM
Once Cindy is done with both sides, then Lee comes.  After that you think Jesse Grund?
Oh 4got about amy.....she's a biggy also....
Next week is going to be a b@ll buster.....
 ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 05:08:25 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

When Cindy left, Simms and Bozo were obstructing her view.
Don't know if that was the Romanian equivalent to the Italian under the chin salute, but I don't think Casey saw it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 05:08:57 PM

Yup & then Casey mimicked it to a degree as she begins her hissy fit & she does say something to the effect "she did that to deliberately hurt me."

If she did, she's likely projecting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 28, 2011, 05:09:07 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by

Okay....it looked to me like Cindy took her right thumb and brushed it across her left cheek

Did I get it right?

Thats what it looked like to me too. But you could be right Capp just wish she would have used her middle finger like we have all seen casey do to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 05:10:12 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by

Did she give kc the finger while she wiped remnants of tears from her face?  ::MonkeyEek::

She was using pretty much one finger to wipe her tears away through  most of the testimony.  I made a note of it, because she was genuinely crying, and I like to know the difference between a real boohoo and what her signature tear-wiping is, and what a fake one might alternately look like.

As jaded as I can be about the Ants, I felt horrible for her today when she saw little Caylee's bed.

Maybe it's just hopeful thinking, but I see her use her thumb and you can't see her fingers... what if she flipped kc off like kc has done to her dad in the courtroom before while "scratching" her eye. Good grief...I've gotta stop studying this. LOL. I think I'll go get some fresh air outside.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:10:20 PM
Gregg Jarret on Foxnews (cable) is going to go over today's testimony at some point in this hour
I am on the  west coast does that make a difference.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 05:10:20 PM
Maybe they were told if they tell the truth now they wont be prosecuted for obstruction. Maybe Lippman cut a deal for them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 05:11:09 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

I think that Casey's view was obstructed at that point.  Click on the photo below to view the very short segment referenced above by Capp:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/th_RVCap28.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/?action=view&current=RVCap28.mp4)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 05:11:47 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

I saw the hand movement..strange.......That clip is great. I don't even care if it was for "our" benefit, it's so good to see that b*tch get a sweet dose of reality. She's not the princess any more and her fat toad lawyer isn't going to trade in his donkey for a white horse. I think it was pure unadulterated anger and the attys knew the jury was gone, no need to cover her up, I mean really, with the insane opener that Bozo gave, nothing that kc could say would be unusual.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 05:14:25 PM
Not the finger per se, it looked like she flicked her thumb as if to say "Im done with you" or like Italians would do under their chin with a cupped hand "Non mi frega"  translation "I dont give a damn."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 05:15:21 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

KC's just pizzed that Cindy didn't look at her; KC probably planned to mount I Love You so the jury could see it.  HA HA HA



Watch it as Cindy walks by

Okay....it looked to me like Cindy took her right thumb and brushed it across her left cheek

Did I get it right?

Yup & then Casey mimicked it to a degree as she begins her hissy fit & she does say something to the effect "she did that to deliberately hurt me."

Also in the video, we can tell that Linda Burdick and Mr. George were getting an eyefull of Miss KC.

As Cindy walked down to the end of the room, I believe she was met and comforted by Mr. Lippman (just as he does for George) and probably George, too.   You see Baez sneak a quick look over his shoulder toward the door leading out of the courtroom...then you see KC looking that way and IMO she realizes Cindy is getting comforted and BINGO - there goes the anger and it just builds and builds. 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 05:16:09 PM
Not the finger per se, it looked like she flicked her thumb as if to say "Im done with you" or like Italians would do under their chin with a cupped hand "Non mi frega"  translation "I dont give a damn."

Okay, now I get it.  Yes, I saw that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 05:18:10 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

They were leaning in just as she walked by so she may have just caught it & projected what it meant or she didnt see it all but Casey does bring her hand to her face & her thumb is out too almost as if shes demonstrating what she thinks she saw
I think that Casey's view was obstructed at that point.  Click on the photo below to view the very short segment referenced above by Capp:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/th_RVCap28.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/?action=view&current=RVCap28.mp4)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 05:18:31 PM
Bozo cracks me up with this "if it please the court" crap. He doesnt even know when to say it  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 05:18:49 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"



I think that Casey's view was obstructed at that point.  Click on the photo below to view the very short segment referenced above by Capp:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/th_RVCap28.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/?action=view&current=RVCap28.mp4)
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Agree - looks like KC's view is obstructed.

She gets really riled when the attorneys move aside and she looks at her mom leaving the room.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:18:58 PM
ok many of us say she didnt look at casey right?
and casey said she didnt even look at me right?
someone at :http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=800
posted this link with this comment:
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058043/index.html
---cindy looks at kc 15:51

I am confused did we see it? I didnt think so and is this correct?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 05:19:49 PM
Not the finger per se, it looked like she flicked her thumb as if to say "Im done with you" or like Italians would do under their chin with a cupped hand "Non mi frega"  translation "I dont give a damn."

Ohhhhh. I see what you mean.

Kc did seem to get into the italian culture didn't she.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 05:20:11 PM
Maybe they were told if they tell the truth now they wont be prosecuted for obstruction. Maybe Lippman cut a deal for them.

You completely lost me.  George and Cindy? What....
Best thing to do for myself is wait till Tues, and get the facts...
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 05:20:20 PM
Tks for the clip Klaas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 05:21:09 PM
I dont think it was any more than Cindy wiping maybe a tear away.
MOO..Its nothing notable


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CJLove23 on May 28, 2011, 05:21:26 PM
Is there any video or pictures of Cindy being comforted by anyone when she leaves, right before Casey's tantrum?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:21:58 PM
Not the finger per se, it looked like she flicked her thumb as if to say "Im done with you" or like Italians would do under their chin with a cupped hand "Non mi frega"  translation "I dont give a damn."

it's similar to spanish lol same meaning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 05:22:54 PM
ok many of us say she didnt look at casey right?
and casey said she didnt even look at me right?
someone at :http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=800
posted this link with this comment:
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058043/index.html
---cindy looks at kc 15:51

I am confused did we see it? I didnt think so and is this correct?

Whoa...that's some look huh? She looks scared to death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 28, 2011, 05:23:19 PM
ok, now I think that Cindy may have been doing that, but she wouldn't know whether or not horseface saw her.  She was just doing it to make herself feel better, maybe? LOL
The two attorneys sort of huddling over horseface move, and it looks like horseface may have been able to see her after all?   Even if she didn't see her, Cindy may have been giving her the "FU", I know I probably would want to. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:24:21 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 20 seconds..."she did that to deliberately hurt me!"

Yes...she did. BOUT TIME! and I hope it's just the beginning!


Oooo....I need a few opinions here, as Cindy left the court room she does a gesture with her hand at her nose (sort of like an Italian salute under the chin, if you feel me) Casey stares & then gets Simms & does a similar motion with her hand...the comment is very close to what you say "she did that to deliberately hurt me."   Tell me what you guys think.

Now, it even further appears that message of "six weeks ago" by Cindy was meant for Casey.  She then further goes to say something like "she always does this...." "she didnt...."and "three years and nothing" when she chops her hands she is saying "nothing"

I saw the hand movement..strange.......That clip is great. I don't even care if it was for "our" benefit, it's so good to see that b*tch get a sweet dose of reality. She's not the princess any more and her fat toad lawyer isn't going to trade in his donkey for a white horse. I think it was pure unadulterated anger and the attys knew the jury was gone, no need to cover her up, I mean really, with the insane opener that Bozo gave, nothing that kc could say would be unusual.

mizjay
I think maybe bozo and casey thoguht george would go over the edge .. commit suicide and than they could manipulate cindy and say he killed him self becuase he killed cayllee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 05:24:30 PM
REMEMBER: As an officer of the court, Baez CANNOT allow Casey to take the stand if he knows she will lie! Believe me -- her attornies KNOW she is a liar.
I don't think he pays much attention to what he can and can't do, he does what he pleases.  Reminds me of his client  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I understand that we all hate his antics in the court, but knowingly allowing his client to lie WILL get him disbarred.
That must be why her lawyers asked all the  potential jurors if they would hold it against her if she didn't take the stand. He knows she's lying and he has to stay with her case. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 05:25:04 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Yup...I can see it too. Around 48 seconds..."She's been looking at me for three years and (today? Now?) NOTHING!"

Makes kc look baaaaad. Imagine that! (insert sarcasm)

No blowing kisses, no mouthing "I Love You"... NOTHING!!! She's lucky she got that the stupid girl.

I remember the days that Cindy looked wistfully at KC, begging with her eyes for KC to look at her.  Cold, spiteful KC wouldn't do it.  You see how ridiculous her thinking is!

Payback is hell... typical brat...she can dish it out but can't take it. Cindy had better get ready... kc will be telling her lawyers to chew cindy up to pieces... but good luck with that. Lol. If they didn't learn from depositions with the A's before when the State was dealing with them or Morgan...oi. lol. Kc is super angry now. On the day she needed her mother to mouth those I love you's to her the most, cindy just walked right out with not one glance at her daughter. I wonder if her cindy look a like lawyer and mason was trying to convince kc otherwise..."oh she did but the officer was in the way and you missed it...I saw it kc, calm down." Nuh uh...she needed that look from her mother today, (not before when she didn't need it to serve any purpose, today when she needed it on her own terms), and her mother didn't do it. To kc, this means hell to pay...worse than what she had planned. She was waiting for that look and was  ::monkeydenied::

Hear! Hear!  Love this post!

Sorry for the stack, but I think this is why the attorneys left by the door going back to the jail. I think they were going to have a real talk down with her. Either they have determined she is totally lying and want to straighten that out (which I think they already knew) or they are going to talk to her about possibly testifying or asking for a plea bargain. Something is going down with them today.

I am really starting to believe that Casey is going to insist on taking the stand.  I really think Baez and Foghorn have their work cutout for them trying to convine her not to do that.  During her melt down about Cindy it looked like she mouthed about she wanted Cindy taken down ..the only person who can do that is Casey..in Casey's mind anyway.


I would love to see Casey take the stand..Baez will not allow that now...but I think she is pushing for that.
The woman is ticked..I refuse to call her a girl, and she thinks she can weave a story that will destruct everyone but herself.  She's in fantasyland now..

Right now the prosecution is telling a story that starts with Caylee at opening, now is in the stage of Casey the lying betrayer thief, then comes all the physical evidence, then comes Casey the lying murderous mother.  Since she lied so much and betrayed so many people this is going to be the long stage, the evidence stage won't take as long because basically that will be expert witnesses.  The closing will be the lying, thiefing, murderous Mother.

This stge is what makes her the most emotional because all these people she thought she fooled haven't stayed fooled...they don't like her, they don't love her and they won't help her.//and it is going to be a parade of them...Cindy and George probably still love her..but she sees she has lost her manipulative hold over them and that makes her rage..how dare they!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: exlurker on May 28, 2011, 05:25:15 PM
One thing I find strange ....when the states is questioning cindy about caseys pregnancy and finding out at 7 months, why didnt the state ask Cindy anything about the father?  nothing..and they all were just happy that their daughter was having a baby with no daddy?  then Cindy called all the relatives and told them?  no mention of a daddy?  some of the family must have asked about a daddy.  If they all said he was dead, Casey would have gotten social security checks.  She would have been happy to have the free money..I have just always found it odd that no one has really pressed the baby daddy issue and no one has come forward.  I understand Casey might not even know because she slept with half of orlando, i just think the whole daddy issue is odd.  (let me clarify, I do not, and never believed George or lee was the father of Caylee)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2011, 05:25:47 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: poor pathetic Casey, she is having a meltdown when her mom told the truth and refused to look at her, she feels betrayed....BUT I have negative sympathy when I consider how Caylee must have felt so confused and betrayed when she was probably scared and confused asking for her mimi and watching her mother (one that should protect and comfort her) hold her arms down in a rage, and place duct tape over her mouth and nose. THAT is the ultimate betrayal of a parent, even a chitty selfish parent IMO, I can't even go there and try to imagine the horror, sadness and sense of betrayal and helplessness she would have felt knowing mimi and jojo weren't there to help her as her own mother decided to give her parents the ultimate Fruk U by killing their beloved grandchild  out of spite and rage, thus maintaining her control she held over them which only increased after Caylee was born (Caylee was the ultimate bargaining chip to hurt and manipulate her parents ). Also, I have to say I have never been a fan of G and C, but I also know after being married to a sociopath that it is not always the way they were raised, my ex's brother and sister were nothing like he was and both his parents went to their grave realizing that all the time they had been in denial about their son and trying desperately to rationalize his behavoir after coming to grips with the truth was in vain. Sadly his father who I loved was buried today and both passed knowing he had burned every bridge he had even within his family, neither of his siblings have disclosed to him (my ex) where they live, and neither will  my boys I raised from my marriage to him . He may have never have gone away for abusing my son, but when his older boys disowned him along with the judge severing all parental rights to my son, well it threw him into a hell on earth, but a hell he created all on his own and one he deserved and one day he will realize that this hell is nothing compared to where he will spend eternity. So Casey, you reap what you sow and karma is a bitch......

I have been hard on G and C, but I do believe the denial is over and they have cut their losses just like my step-children and my ex' in laws did ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 05:27:50 PM
ok many of us say she didnt look at casey right?
and casey said she didnt even look at me right?
someone at :http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=800
posted this link with this comment:
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058043/index.html
---cindy looks at kc 15:51

I am confused did we see it? I didnt think so and is this correct?

Happens very quickly and yes, it looks like she quickly glances over at Casey when she first gets on the stand:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Picture0001.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:28:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded
here she is again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 05:28:44 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

Around 40 seconds it's "...........and she's not even going to try now?!"

wonder what the ............. was. I can imagine, lol, but trying to figure it out.



It might have something like "they all left.....I have to cry now" angrily to Simms.
Simms says at about :45 "She has to believe that you said that".
KC: She has to believe that for three (2?) years I said nothing"
Simms: I know, I'm sorry You're right I'm sorry

I have a couple of different theories:
1) What if this was for the A's benefit, with KC hoping they'll see it later? She nor Simms bother hiding their mouths. KC keeps looking directly at the camera. The anger is easy to turn on because it's always there just under the surface that she is treated unfairly.

2)The anger started when Cindy began to cry while talking about Caylee's playhouse and patio set. That's when KC started shaking her head no in disbelief. She may have been furious that Cindy embarassed her in public by admitting however indirectly that she didn't contribute anything towards the playhouse etc. In which case she may have said "She has to believe that for 3 years I did nothing" and the earlier stuff was about how she tried to hurt KC by bringing that stuff up.
Just before Simms started the covered mouth instructions, KC seems to say something like "How could she do this to me .... "



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Terri on May 28, 2011, 05:29:01 PM
loca,

I do believe you are referring to our "little Rhoda" played by Patty McCormack in The Bad Seed.   Babybear brought her up yesterday...and it was strange because I had been thinking of her the last few days.

KC living her "good life" after Caylee's death reminds me of Rhoda's comment "Clyde Dagle got dead, not me"...

Terri
Ohio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:29:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded
here she is again
linda standing within earshot., heard it all.. only one covering the mouth is simms.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 05:29:33 PM
One thing I find strange ....when the states is questioning cindy about caseys pregnancy and finding out at 7 months, why didnt the state ask Cindy anything about the father?  nothing..and they all were just happy that their daughter was having a baby with no daddy?  then Cindy called all the relatives and told them?  no mention of a daddy?  some of the family must have asked about a daddy.  If they all said he was dead, Casey would have gotten social security checks.  She would have been happy to have the free money..I have just always found it odd that no one has really pressed the baby daddy issue and no one has come forward.  I understand Casey might not even know because she slept with half of orlando, i just think the whole daddy issue is odd.  (let me clarify, I do not, and never believed George or lee was the father of Caylee)
That question may not be relevant and also may not be known.  As we all know Casey slept around with many ment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:30:03 PM
loca,

I do believe you are referring to our "little Rhoda" played by Patty McCormack in The Bad Seed.   Babybear brought her up yesterday...and it was strange because I had been thinking of her the last few days.

KC living her "good life" after Caylee's death reminds me of Rhoda's comment "Clyde Dagle got dead, not me"...

Terri
Ohio
yes I do believe thats her. thank you:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 05:31:19 PM
News 13 offered footage of the shaken Cindy Anthony leaving the court after testifying. George Anthony had his arm around his wife as she shook her head.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html

Went to that site but can't find any video. Anyone know where we can see that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 05:32:22 PM
One thing I find strange ....when the states is questioning cindy about caseys pregnancy and finding out at 7 months, why didnt the state ask Cindy anything about the father?  nothing..and they all were just happy that their daughter was having a baby with no daddy?  then Cindy called all the relatives and told them?  no mention of a daddy?  some of the family must have asked about a daddy.  If they all said he was dead, Casey would have gotten social security checks.  She would have been happy to have the free money..I have just always found it odd that no one has really pressed the baby daddy issue and no one has come forward.  I understand Casey might not even know because she slept with half of orlando, i just think the whole daddy issue is odd.  (let me clarify, I do not, and never believed George or lee was the father of Caylee)

Just my opinion, but as I see it the "baby daddy" is totally irrelevant to the case.  Had he been known & in her life, different story.   If there were any dispute over the father that prompted this murder it would be relevant.  Neither George or Lee is the father.   What is a dang shame is even then Casey probably couldnt narrow it down, ugh its so disgusting.

The Foxnews report is coming up after the commercial break.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 05:33:11 PM
::MonkeyNoNo:: poor pathetic Casey, she is having a meltdown when her mom told the truth and refused to look at her, she feels betrayed....BUT I have negative sympathy when I consider how Caylee must have felt so confused and betrayed when she was probably scared and confused asking for her mimi and watching her mother (one that should protect and comfort her) hold her arms down in a rage, and place duct tape over her mouth and nose. THAT is the ultimate betrayal of a parent, even a chitty selfish parent IMO, I can't even go there and try to imagine the horror, sadness and sense of betrayal and helplessness she would have felt knowing mimi and jojo weren't there to help her as her own mother decided to give her parents the ultimate Fruk U by killing their beloved grandchild  out of spite and rage, thus maintaining her control she held over them which only increased after Caylee was born (Caylee was the ultimate bargaining chip to hurt and manipulate her parents ). Also, I have to say I have never been a fan of G and C, but I also know after being married to a sociopath that it is not always the way they were raised, my ex's brother and sister were nothing like he was and both his parents went to their grave realizing that all the time they had been in denial about their son and trying desperately to rationalize his behavoir after coming to grips with the truth was in vain. Sadly his father who I loved was buried today and both passed knowing he had burned every bridge he had even within his family, neither of his siblings have disclosed to him (my ex) where they live, and neither will  my boys I raised from my marriage to him . He may have never have gone away for abusing my son, but when his older boys disowned him along with the judge severing all parental rights to my son, well it threw him into a hell on earth, but a hell he created all on his own and one he deserved and one day he will realize that this hell is nothing compared to where he will spend eternity. So Casey, you reap what you sow and karma is a bitch......

I have been hard on G and C, but I do believe the denial is over and they have cut their losses just like my step-children and my ex' in laws did ::HelloKitty::

Island, please accept my condolences for the loss of your beloved ex-father-in-law.  I'm sorry that their son hurt so many people, including you and your own sons, and that you not only had to experience that but watch others go through it including his own parents.

Also, I'd like to add that I agree that while I haven't previously been very sympathetic to the Ants, I do see that they seem to be coming out of a very strong denial (and very unhealthy at that) and are just going to have to, as you say, "cut their losses" and accept what they have left.  I hope that maybe it will cause them to rethink things in their life, as my hope is always that if people have to deal with a lot of lemons, that maybe they can learn from it, make lemonade, and become better people to their family and to others.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 05:34:50 PM
One thing I find strange ....when the states is questioning cindy about caseys pregnancy and finding out at 7 months, why didnt the state ask Cindy anything about the father?  nothing..and they all were just happy that their daughter was having a baby with no daddy?  then Cindy called all the relatives and told them?  no mention of a daddy?  some of the family must have asked about a daddy.  If they all said he was dead, Casey would have gotten social security checks.  She would have been happy to have the free money..I have just always found it odd that no one has really pressed the baby daddy issue and no one has come forward.  I understand Casey might not even know because she slept with half of orlando, i just think the whole daddy issue is odd.  (let me clarify, I do not, and never believed George or lee was the father of Caylee)

Just my opinion, but as I see it the "baby daddy" is totally irrelevant to the case.  Had he been known & in her life, different story.   If there were any dispute over the father that prompted this murder it would be relevant.  Neither George or Lee is the father.   What is a dang shame is even then Casey probably couldnt narrow it down, ugh its so disgusting.

The Foxnews report is coming up after the commercial break.

Likely, the Ants knew enough about Casey to realize that there wasn't much of a likelihood of them being able to even figure out who the baby-daddy would be.  They were just glad for the baby, and honestly -  a lack of a baby daddy meant that they had more control over the baby's life and upbringing without his imput and him taking up their time with her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:37:51 PM
News 13 offered footage of the shaken Cindy Anthony leaving the court after testifying. George Anthony had his arm around his wife as she shook her head.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html

Went to that site but can't find any video. Anyone know where we can see that?
nick and nora
there are recent links there just posted, I posted one for youtube


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 05:38:20 PM
ok many of us say she didnt look at casey right?
and casey said she didnt even look at me right?
someone at :http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=800
posted this link with this comment:
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058043/index.html
---cindy looks at kc 15:51

I am confused did we see it? I didnt think so and is this correct?

Whoa...that's some look huh? She looks scared to death.

If she looked at Casey  hard to tell but she closed her eyes right after


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on May 28, 2011, 05:38:32 PM
hey everyone! i am sitting on the beach in jersey and just read the whole thread since i couldn't watch today. i think my friends think i'm crazy!

anyway...thanks for all the updates from everyone and here are some of my opinions/theories as to what went on today/what is to come:

Cindy's Testimony: Cindy did a good job today, she made it clear to Casey that she is not going to stand by her and cover for her, especially when she made the comment about looking for zanny up until 6 weeks ago.  Casey clearly got the message as evidenced by her meltdown for herself during the recess.

Lippmans Motion: I think it could be several things.  I think it's possible it could have to do with the tax lien and the sudden publishing of the video of caylee's 2nd birthday party.  I wouldn't be suprised if Baez sold that video for his client to pay for hte $68,000 lien and the anthony's could be disputing that maybe they have ownership of the video and not casey.  I dunno I think it's possible but I'm not sure if that is something serious enough to have to have a motion heard on in the middle of a murder trial.

The other thing I think Lippmans motion could be about is Tony's testimony that Casey told him George never sexually abused her.  Maybe he wants to be sure that the jury can hear that at some point in time?  I dunno it could have something to do with that in some way.

The last thing I wanted to say about today is that I think several things could have been going on that caused the defense team to all go meet with Casey in the conference room after court was recessed for the day.  I think either they were discussing strategy on cross examining Cindy and were trying to further calm Casey down, or they were discussing a possible plea with her because it's become clear that the only way they are gonna get any sex abuse stuff in is if she takes the stand.  I do NOT think the DT can put her on the stand knowingly without all being disbarred because it is a MAJOR NO NO to put a defendent on the stand to testify to something you KNOW they are lying about.  The DT knows she is lying and I think there's proof somewhere of this.  The other thing they could have been discussing is Lippman's motion that will be heard on tuesday morning.

Okay sorry for the long post everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:38:38 PM
News 13 offered footage of the shaken Cindy Anthony leaving the court after testifying. George Anthony had his arm around his wife as she shook her head.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html

Went to that site but can't find any video. Anyone know where we can see that?
nick and nora
there are recent links there just posted, I posted one for youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded
here she is again






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 05:40:20 PM
I am glad the Ants are headed towards the truth. I think they are getting there due to several factors. KC's allegations, whatever denial they have is slowly chipping away and I still think that Mr Lippman is playing a large part.  I also still think that they are now telling truths based on some sort of agreement arranged by their attorney and the state to shelve any obstruction charges due to their past actions at hindering and lying to protect KC. Maybe they have had counseling, I would bet they have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: exlurker on May 28, 2011, 05:40:34 PM
Yes, I totally get the A's I guess , I was really meaning more towards the trial, and why there was no questions about it. It may be irrelevant to the murder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 05:41:11 PM
Here's a question for Baez:  When your client was bailed out by LP , LP wanted to take yuor client to a safe house he was going to rent for his team and her.  Cindy and George were fine with this, Cindy did not want her coming back to the house..and neither did LP due to the protesters and security being easier at another unknown address.

Why Mr Baez did you insist that your client being returned to her family home knowing that her father still lived in that home and had been sexually abusing her since she was 8 years old?

And again insisted she be returned to that home the second time she was bailed out/  Makes no sense..but of course they hadn't come up with the sexual abuse angle yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 05:42:08 PM
OT...loco are you Sierra?
I do follow that name on youtube 4 updates....
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 05:42:22 PM
ok many of us say she didnt look at casey right?
and casey said she didnt even look at me right?
someone at :http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=800
posted this link with this comment:
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058043/index.html
---cindy looks at kc 15:51

I am confused did we see it? I didnt think so and is this correct?

Happens very quickly and yes, it looks like she quickly glances over at Casey when she first gets on the stand:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Picture0001.jpg)

Looks like she glances over with a look of disgust.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 05:45:23 PM
One thing I find strange ....when the states is questioning cindy about caseys pregnancy and finding out at 7 months, why didnt the state ask Cindy anything about the father?  nothing..and they all were just happy that their daughter was having a baby with no daddy?  then Cindy called all the relatives and told them?  no mention of a daddy?  some of the family must have asked about a daddy.  If they all said he was dead, Casey would have gotten social security checks.  She would have been happy to have the free money..I have just always found it odd that no one has really pressed the baby daddy issue and no one has come forward.  I understand Casey might not even know because she slept with half of orlando, i just think the whole daddy issue is odd.  (let me clarify, I do not, and never believed George or lee was the father of Caylee)
That question may not be relevant and also may not be known.  As we all know Casey slept around with many ment.

Didn't George say Baker? also she was dating two guys at the same time  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sdmike1974 on May 28, 2011, 05:46:14 PM
A few observations on today's HLN trial coverage as well as Cindy Anthony:

1) I'm sure others may have observed this in the past, but it was my first opportunity to witness first hand who (perhaps unwittingly) taught Casey Anthony how to be such a skilled liar (for the most part). Cindy is very adept at adding details to her fabrications to enhance believability.

2) It was too bad HLN didn't realize (or honor) the fact that 90%+ of their Saturday viewers had tuned in to watch trial coverage. Why did they start last and end early? And some of the commercial breaks were at the most inopportune times in the testimony.

3) Finally it was nice to watch HLN an entire day without Ms. Hostin. :) Could "In Session" and HLN legal analyst Sunny Hostin be any more annoying?

It is one thing to mention points scored by the defense. That's part of her job. But all too often she seems more like a sycophant or shill for the defense. It's almost as if she has a close personal friend/colleague on the defense team. Perhaps she does.

I am not saying she never makes a positive statement about the prosecution. But some of her pro defense positions are in a very small minority.
 
Others in the pro defsnse camp:
Geraldo Rivera
Aphrodite Jones


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 05:47:34 PM
Gypsy great catch!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 05:47:55 PM
That was a surprise that JB sustained that being included.

Im flabbergasted...there has to be something to this, maybe having to establish something more


I'm furious.

I think it will come in later......there is a certain order of how they are introducing evidence...this was not the time....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 05:47:58 PM
hey everyone! i am sitting on the beach in jersey and just read the whole thread since i couldn't watch today. i think my friends think i'm crazy!

anyway...thanks for all the updates from everyone and here are some of my opinions/theories as to what went on today/what is to come:

Cindy's Testimony: Cindy did a good job today, she made it clear to Casey that she is not going to stand by her and cover for her, especially when she made the comment about looking for zanny up until 6 weeks ago.  Casey clearly got the message as evidenced by her meltdown for herself during the recess.

Lippmans Motion: I think it could be several things.  I think it's possible it could have to do with the tax lien and the sudden publishing of the video of caylee's 2nd birthday party.  I wouldn't be suprised if Baez sold that video for his client to pay for hte $68,000 lien and the anthony's could be disputing that maybe they have ownership of the video and not casey.  I dunno I think it's possible but I'm not sure if that is something serious enough to have to have a motion heard on in the middle of a murder trial.

The other thing I think Lippmans motion could be about is Tony's testimony that Casey told him George never sexually abused her.  Maybe he wants to be sure that the jury can hear that at some point in time?  I dunno it could have something to do with that in some way.

The last thing I wanted to say about today is that I think several things could have been going on that caused the defense team to all go meet with Casey in the conference room after court was recessed for the day.  I think either they were discussing strategy on cross examining Cindy and were trying to further calm Casey down, or they were discussing a possible plea with her because it's become clear that the only way they are gonna get any sex abuse stuff in is if she takes the stand.  I do NOT think the DT can put her on the stand knowingly without all being disbarred because it is a MAJOR NO NO to put a defendent on the stand to testify to something you KNOW they are lying about.  The DT knows she is lying and I think there's proof somewhere of this.  The other thing they could have been discussing is Lippman's motion that will be heard on tuesday morning.

Okay sorry for the long post everyone!

Good post!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:48:57 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/27/us-crime-anthony-idUSTRE74Q03H20110527
read the last lineof this report. I had know idea that Lippmann had access to the psychological report. So I'm sure he shared itwith the family. Did the state give this to them to knock some sense into them??



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:50:39 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/27/us-crime-anthony-idUSTRE74Q03H20110527
read the last lineof this report. I had know idea that Lippmann had access to the psychological report. So I'm sure he shared itwith the family. Did the state give this to them to knock some sense into them??


the bottom of the page
"No they were not planning on moving out, and I have no idea about Casey's plans other than her psychological report demonstrates she is deeply disturbed," Mark Lippman said.

does that seem right or is it assuming


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 05:50:41 PM
What motion did Lippmann file?

 I hope someone knows the answer....I will keep reading


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 05:50:47 PM
News 13 offered footage of the shaken Cindy Anthony leaving the court after testifying. George Anthony had his arm around his wife as she shook her head.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html

Went to that site but can't find any video. Anyone know where we can see that?
nick and nora
there are recent links there just posted, I posted one for youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded
here she is again






Oooo...she just gets more and more angry.  Well....she'll just have to be angry because her "controlling" days are over.  She's mad because she could always control mom and that's over.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 05:51:30 PM
you know what is said about assuming. I hope to get some comments /  thoughts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 05:52:14 PM
Oooo...she just gets more and more angry.  Well....she'll just have to be angry because her "controlling" days are over.  She's mad because she could always control mom and that's over.

Mom is SO over it.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 05:53:05 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2011, 05:54:13 PM
::MonkeyNoNo:: poor pathetic Casey, she is having a meltdown when her mom told the truth and refused to look at her, she feels betrayed....BUT I have negative sympathy when I consider how Caylee must have felt so confused and betrayed when she was probably scared and confused asking for her mimi and watching her mother (one that should protect and comfort her) hold her arms down in a rage, and place duct tape over her mouth and nose. THAT is the ultimate betrayal of a parent, even a chitty selfish parent IMO, I can't even go there and try to imagine the horror, sadness and sense of betrayal and helplessness she would have felt knowing mimi and jojo weren't there to help her as her own mother decided to give her parents the ultimate Fruk U by killing their beloved grandchild  out of spite and rage, thus maintaining her control she held over them which only increased after Caylee was born (Caylee was the ultimate bargaining chip to hurt and manipulate her parents ). Also, I have to say I have never been a fan of G and C, but I also know after being married to a sociopath that it is not always the way they were raised, my ex's brother and sister were nothing like he was and both his parents went to their grave realizing that all the time they had been in denial about their son and trying desperately to rationalize his behavoir after coming to grips with the truth was in vain. Sadly his father who I loved was buried today and both passed knowing he had burned every bridge he had even within his family, neither of his siblings have disclosed to him (my ex) where they live, and neither will  my boys I raised from my marriage to him . He may have never have gone away for abusing my son, but when his older boys disowned him along with the judge severing all parental rights to my son, well it threw him into a hell on earth, but a hell he created all on his own and one he deserved and one day he will realize that this hell is nothing compared to where he will spend eternity. So Casey, you reap what you sow and karma is a bitch......

I have been hard on G and C, but I do believe the denial is over and they have cut their losses just like my step-children and my ex' in laws did ::HelloKitty::

Island, please accept my condolences for the loss of your beloved ex-father-in-law.  I'm sorry that their son hurt so many people, including you and your own sons, and that you not only had to experience that but watch others go through it including his own parents.

Also, I'd like to add that I agree that while I haven't previously been very sympathetic to the Ants, I do see that they seem to be coming out of a very strong denial (and very unhealthy at that) and are just going to have to, as you say, "cut their losses" and accept what they have left.  I hope that maybe it will cause them to rethink things in their life, as my hope is always that if people have to deal with a lot of lemons, that maybe they can learn from it, make lemonade, and become better people to their family and to others.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: Thanks Starwynn~he was a wonderful man controlled by his wife just as in this case, she just couldn't grasp the fact that her "wonderful son" was indeed a sociopath and a conman until the chit hit the fan when I filed for divorce.....they even told him not to fight for custody, they finally got it and they were in their 80's......but, what we went thru made us stronger as hard as it was and my son had blossomed in the past 3+ yrs, he told me wrt his dad a quote "those who dwell in the past, only bear the present and are certain to miss the future".....it's a spin on an old JFK quote but from a wise lil man I am blessed to raise. He gets it and once we moved away from our old home his sense of security was restored and has never dwelled on what happened although whether he realizes it or not, it does influence him in many ways, he is a very sympathetic child who donated 1/2 of his Christmas to the local home here for abused children, so while it was a horrific thing that he endured in a weird way he learned to use his experience to help others so again I feel blessed. I remember thinking what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and that has indeed been the case. I will miss his dad, and am saddened to know he left this earth knowing his own son is sinking in an abyss and that he will never be the man he was, and has not one person left in his family that will be there for him if he ever needed them, no matter how sociopathic your child is, it is still your child and that had to hurt even though he knew it was for the best (sorry if that makes no sense the way I worded it ). I think you put if perfectly when you stated that by cutting their losses they focus on the wheel that isn't squeaking and into more positive aspects of the family by cutting their losses and making lemonade as you stated. Many many families have endured the issue of one bad seed taking all their energy, time etc., so when they cut their losses they are finally able to have some level of peace, and I hope others can learn from the mistakes of others instead of having to learn the hard way .......it's a horrible lesson, but so many can not grasp it until they actually live it. Thanks again Starwynn......I do know he is at peace now and finally able to meet his great granchild for the first time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on May 28, 2011, 05:55:05 PM
What motion did Lippmann file?

 I hope someone knows the answer....I will keep reading

i dont think it's being disclosed until tuesday at 8:30 am.  i think it might have to do with tony's testimony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 05:55:15 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.
Eric BakerI had in my notes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 05:56:24 PM
RAW VIDEO: Angry Casey Cries As Mom Walks Out Of Court
Casey Anthony became angry and cried as her mother, Cindy, walked out of the courtroom on Saturday. There is no audio during this video because the court was in recess. (05/28/11)

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

I take great please in watching this over and over ::MonkeyDevil::  I hope Linda heard every word!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 05:57:28 PM
News 13 offered footage of the shaken Cindy Anthony leaving the court after testifying. George Anthony had his arm around his wife as she shook her head.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html

Went to that site but can't find any video. Anyone know where we can see that?
nick and nora
there are recent links there just posted, I posted one for youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded
here she is again

Thanks...but I'm trying to find footage of GA and CA after Cindy walked from the stand where she's with George. The article says CH. 13 showed it? or do they mean we could see Cindy leaving only...not her with George?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 05:57:58 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/27/us-crime-anthony-idUSTRE74Q03H20110527
read the last lineof this report. I had know idea that Lippmann had access to the psychological report. So I'm sure he shared itwith the family. Did the state give this to them to knock some sense into them??


the bottom of the page
"No they were not planning on moving out, and I have no idea about Casey's plans other than her psychological report demonstrates she is deeply disturbed," Mark Lippman said.

does that seem right or is it assuming

Go Lippmann!  Remember he said:  If they go down this road, she will be destroyed.  Psychological report says: deeply disturbed! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 05:59:26 PM
you know what is said about assuming. I hope to get some comments /  thoughts.

Sounds as if that's what he gathered from it maybe. I don't know. Interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 06:00:47 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.
Eric BakerI had in my notes
He's dead that must be why she pulled his name out of her a$$ otherwise Caylee would  have gotten his SS check.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:01:21 PM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/cindybracelet.jpg)




(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/CAYLEEBRACELET.jpg)

cindy wearing this bracelet today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on May 28, 2011, 06:02:23 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 06:03:29 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.
Eric BakerI had in my notes

Death Certificate.  I believe that when Caylees body was found the question of whether Eric Baker was the father was resolved and HIS family was told.  I think:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 06:04:28 PM
The way Casey slept around there is no telling WHO the father was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?
I always wondered how it was possible for Baez to talk to the A's about a month or 6 weeks ago knowing they were witnesses in the case. If Lippman brings this up, could it be cause for a mistrial? Which could be the whole reason why this happened. Which would mean that Lippman and Baez are working for the same cause. Mistrial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 06:07:30 PM
Once the jurors leave the courtroom, they cannot even talk to each other about the case until deliberation time. It is in the instructions you get from the judge. I was in a jury for a 2 day trial and it was very difficult not to ask each other during luch, what do you think? and did you see that too? We were not sequestered but took it seriously. They have all this time keeping it all inside. My prayers and well wishes for the jury


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Girlzrock on May 28, 2011, 06:08:00 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
RAW VIDEO: Angry Casey Cries As Mom Walks Out Of Court
Casey Anthony became angry and cried as her mother, Cindy, walked out of the courtroom on Saturday. There is no audio during this video because the court was in recess. (05/28/11)

http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

I take great please in watching this over and over ::MonkeyDevil::  I hope Linda heard every word!!

me too I have watched it several times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:09:21 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


funny because baez had accused her of acting like a two year old.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:10:33 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


I am sure jose told casey that  cindy would be supportive and may have even lied and said he talked to her. jose has told so many lies during this trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: exlurker on May 28, 2011, 06:10:45 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.
Eric BakerI had in my notes
He's dead that must be why she pulled his name out of her a$$ otherwise Caylee would  have gotten his SS check.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Thank You!!!!  and thank you for all the pics you post in the pic thread.  You are fantastic!!!  We appreciate  all you do here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:12:59 PM
I think tony found out more about the real casey this time... all her lovers/lies/ and schemes...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 06:14:55 PM
Is their a transcript of all of the info Cindy testified today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 06:15:05 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.
Eric BakerI had in my notes

Death Certificate.  I believe that when Caylees body was found the question of whether Eric Baker was the father was resolved and HIS family was told.  I think:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Geesh...I must be losing it....I thought that the talk about Eric Baker became so much that his parents agreed to a dna test and it was discovered that he was NOT the father.  Where did I gt that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:16:35 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)
Tweets from CFNews13 Twitter- Reporters in the Court Room tweets:

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)
CFNews13 - Twitter - 5-28-11
~~~~~~
Interesting to read if you were not able to watch the trial today!

Edit- Fix links.  Needed hyperlink.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 06:16:53 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

Well, it appeared to me also that they were both watching something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

Well, it appeared to me also that they were both watching something.

OMG THAT PICTURE OF CASEY IS SO HILARIOUS!! SORRY KLAAS BUT i THINK ITS OFF THE HOOK FUNNY FACE EXPRESSION!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 06:20:29 PM
IM and Loca - O/T is being moved to the Break Room thread.  I have made that very clear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:20:45 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

Well, it appeared to me also that they were both watching something.

OMG THAT PICTURE OF CASEY IS SO HILARIOUS!! SORRY KLAAS BUT i THINK ITS OFF THE HOOK FUNNY FACE EXPRESSION!!
i didnt realize my caps were on I was laughing so hard.,
she looks like ruth busy and would make a great commercial for saturday night live!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:21:41 PM
IM and Loca - O/T is being moved to the Break Room thread.  I have made that very clear.
oops my bad didnt see that klaas I am so sorry ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bananas on May 28, 2011, 06:22:06 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


funny because baez had accused her of acting like a two year old.

I for one am so glad to see George and Cindy holding onto each other and telling it like it is.  Casey was sooooo mad.  She no longer has any power over them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bananas on May 28, 2011, 06:26:33 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

Well, it appeared to me also that they were both watching something.

OMG THAT PICTURE OF CASEY IS SO HILARIOUS!! SORRY KLAAS BUT i THINK ITS OFF THE HOOK FUNNY FACE EXPRESSION!!
i didnt realize my caps were on I was laughing so hard.,

Cindy walked out of that courtroom holding her head high and never even glanced at Casey.  I say good for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 06:28:09 PM
Now that we are finally starting the trial, all Off Topic posts will be moved to the MURDER TRIAL BREAK ROOM without comment to the poster, it will just happen.  Please keep that in mind.  It is too hard for people to catch up if they have to wade thru Off Topic too.  TIA

BREAK ROOM THREAD

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9923.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 06:29:04 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

30 seconds..."She's going to protect him."

What is wrong with me?! LOL. I've watched this too much. I'm going to have nightmares tonight if I keep studying it. Off for a little walk.

Good evening monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 06:30:17 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.
Eric BakerI had in my notes

Death Certificate.  I believe that when Caylees body was found the question of whether Eric Baker was the father was resolved and HIS family was told.  I think:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Geesh...I must be losing it....I thought that the talk about Eric Baker became so much that his parents agreed to a dna test and it was discovered that he was NOT the father.  Where did I gt that?
This is most likely a lie by Casey  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 06:30:52 PM
I am rewatching Cindy answer a question about the playhouse. Did anyone else know it had pavers for a floor? If she was hidden in there, I guess thats why they ended up in the woods with caylee..never knew that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 06:32:36 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


funny because baez had accused her of acting like a two year old.

I for one am so glad to see George and Cindy holding onto each other and telling it like it is.  Casey was sooooo mad.  She no longer has any power over them.

The magic words:  She no longer has any power over them.

Going to be a long, angry pitty-party for Missy Casey in "her room" this weekend.  Cindy kept referencing Casey's room in the home and I was picturing Casey's room in the jail.

Not to mention that she will be getting a new room in Lowell Prison soon.  The other night I heard Jinkasaurus say that the Lowell Prison does NOT have any airconditioning...ha..in Florida!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 06:33:42 PM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/cindybracelet.jpg)




(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/CAYLEEBRACELET.jpg)

cindy wearing this bracelet today.

That's very pretty!... ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 06:34:20 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/28/us-crime-anthony-idUSTRE74Q03H20110528
Casey Anthony texts: "guess who spends eternity in jail"
By Barbara Liston
ORLANDO, Florida | Sat May 28, 2011 3:17pm EDT


(Reuters) - Accused child-killer Casey Anthony called herself "the worst f***ing person" and predicted she would spend eternity in jail in text messages she sent a month after the murder of her daughter Caylee, according to evidence introduced at trial on Saturday.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sister on May 28, 2011, 06:36:53 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html


I've watched this several times myself -- the last time I was just looking at "her" mouth which was twisted as evil words came spewing out.  I think she became angry when she saw her mother receive genuine support and it hit her the days of being the "boss" were over.  As she has watched all of her former friends and boyfriends come into court (and leave), knowing they have a life she will never have, it's a wonder her head hasn't imploded from jealousy and rage.  This will not be the last meltdown and I predict it is only a scene of more to come. If Lee mans up and tells the truth, a major meltdown will happen too. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 06:37:15 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

30 seconds..."She's going to protect him."

What is wrong with me?! LOL. I've watched this too much. I'm going to have nightmares tonight if I keep studying it. Off for a little walk.

Good evening monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm not seeing "She's going to protect him"

I'm seeing "She's ??  ??  ??  ME"

But of course we would both be guessing. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 06:40:30 PM
When Cindy said she looked for zanny until about 6 weeks ago, she sat stonefaced afterwards and they went to KC who looked like she knew exactly what her mother meant, quivering lip and all


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 06:40:33 PM
What motion did Lippmann file?

 I hope someone knows the answer....I will keep reading

i dont think it's being disclosed until tuesday at 8:30 am.  i think it might have to do with tony's testimony.

thanks.....dang now we gotta wonder!! I have read the guesse4s and perhaps and maybe's...and they are all possible I guess....dang I hate to wait!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 06:42:27 PM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/cindybracelet.jpg)




(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/CAYLEEBRACELET.jpg)

cindy wearing this bracelet today.

I am fine with both of these pieces.....the teddy bear was way over the top!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 28, 2011, 06:43:23 PM
Just to be sure I am reading this right...................

When Cindy said on the stand today that she was still looking for "Zanny" up until 6 weeks ago -- she wasn't being literal, she was figuritively saying to casey: "I stood by you for 3 years unti we found out 6 weeks ago you were going to throw the whole family under the bus!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on May 28, 2011, 06:44:05 PM
What motion did Lippmann file?

 I hope someone knows the answer....I will keep reading

i dont think it's being disclosed until tuesday at 8:30 am.  i think it might have to do with tony's testimony.

thanks.....dang now we gotta wonder!! I have read the guesse4s and perhaps and maybe's...and they are all possible I guess....dang I hate to wait!! ::MonkeyTongue::

whatever the motion is, i'm wondering why its being kept a secret. either its something big, or maybe it wasn't updated on any of the court stuff yet because its a saturday?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 06:44:13 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?
I'm confused lippman's motion could be about witness tampering? What does this mean?

Look Cindy has her head down here also may just someting she does when she is upset
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2011/05/06/outcome-of-hearing-today-judge-grants-lippmans-motion/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 06:44:25 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

30 seconds..."She's going to protect him."

What is wrong with me?! LOL. I've watched this too much. I'm going to have nightmares tonight if I keep studying it. Off for a little walk.

Good evening monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

You're right. She did say that. She must have been watching Cindy hugging George out of camera view. All that crying and anger was for camera benefit, and possibly Cindy's to color her testimony on Tuesday. I'm not saying the tears and rage wasn't real, but not for any sexual abuse or for Cindy protecting her abuser. Anger over Cindy's testimony that was all about Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on May 28, 2011, 06:44:49 PM
Just to be sure I am reading this right...................

When Cindy said on the stand today that she was still looking for "Zanny" up until 6 weeks ago -- she wasn't being literal, she was figuritively saying to casey: "I stood by you for 3 years unti we found out 6 weeks ago you were going to throw the whole family under the bus!"

that's my take on it  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NCSunny on May 28, 2011, 06:44:59 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

Well, it appeared to me also that they were both watching something.


Thanks to everyone for all the comments and updates on the trial.  It's really hard when you miss it and have to catch up days later.

I would have loved to see that look on Casey's face... just once in reguards to Caylee. 

Again, many thanks.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 06:44:59 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.
Eric BakerI had in my notes

Death Certificate.  I believe that when Caylees body was found the question of whether Eric Baker was the father was resolved and HIS family was told.  I think:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Geesh...I must be losing it....I thought that the talk about Eric Baker became so much that his parents agreed to a dna test and it was discovered that he was NOT the father.  Where did I gt that?

Puzzler...I am remembering the same as you????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 06:45:24 PM
I am rewatching Cindy answer a question about the playhouse. Did anyone else know it had pavers for a floor? If she was hidden in there, I guess thats why they ended up in the woods with caylee..never knew that


Casey Anthony Wanted To Give Daughter Up For Adoption, Docs Say
3-Year-Old Missing Since Mid-June
POSTED: 4:46 pm EDT August 25, 2008
UPDATED: 10:50 am EDT August 26, 2008


<snipped>

The documents also stated that before detectives arrived to perform a search of the back yard of Casey Anthony's parents' home, Cindy Anthony, Caylee's grandmother, checked inside the sheds and George Anthony, Caylee's grandfather, moved a playhouse and looked underneath concrete pavers for "any evidence of foul play."

Detectives said they also noticed a strange, suspicious depression near the swimming pool, the documents stated.

<snipped>

http://www.local6.com/news/17291314/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on May 28, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?
I'm confused lippman's motion could be about witness tampering? What does this mean?

Look Cindy has her head down here also may just someting she does when she is upset
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2011/05/06/outcome-of-hearing-today-judge-grants-lippmans-motion/

i dunno i was just thinking outloud of all the possibilities it could be. maybe the defense was trying to do some inappropriate forms of contact with george and cindy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 06:46:36 PM
IMO, KC had such a snit-fit because KC has always been able to "control" mom.  Mom, on the stand today, was telling the truth.  Telling the real day-to-day story of KC's lies.  KC is NOT in control; therefore, she's pizzed and messing with her attorney's minds at this point.

KC can always shed a tear when it's about her.

Mom's testimony is about KC.

KC pitched an angry snit-fit befitting a 2 year old child.

Since Cindy went straight into the arms of Lippmann and George, I hope Cindy did not see that fit. 



Hi all!  Enjoying your insights and comments. 

I was wondering (since it seemed to me that KC and Simms were watching something that got her going)  if the fact that Cindy was taking comfort from George or that they were supporting each other gave her the fits.  She may have anticipated Cindy jumping on board the bus heading for George... and is steaming because it didn't happen that way?


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

Well, it appeared to me also that they were both watching something.

I'd love to see a video of Cindy leaving...perhaps she was talking cordially to the State and that pizzed KC off...???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 06:47:27 PM
Bozo cracks me up with this "if it please the court" crap. He doesnt even know when to say it  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yeah..and I always start laughing when he introduces himself each day and says hello to the good jury, hello to the judge, hello to the current witness..it's always his first cross of the day.  He could not even get out of his chair during pretrial motins..now he's Mr Polite.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 06:49:57 PM
The magic words:  She no longer has any power over them.

Going to be a long, angry pitty-party for Missy Casey in "her room" this weekend.  Cindy kept referencing Casey's room in the home and I was picturing Casey's room in the jail.

Not to mention that she will be getting a new room in Lowell Prison soon.  The other night I heard Jinkasaurus say that the Lowell Prison does NOT have any airconditioning...ha..in Florida!

Here is an article from March of this year about Lowell.  ::HelloKitty::
http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/state-of-florida-department-of-corrections-is-shutting-down-six-prison-facilities-women-to-be-sent-to-lowell-correctional-institution-hell-hole-to-serve-out-their-time/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: IBE on May 28, 2011, 06:51:26 PM
Help please. I am confused. HLN channel has Cindy on in iCourt. Is this a replay?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 06:51:35 PM
Poor Tony... I think in the past few days he must have found out that even though KC was seeing him, she had at least 2 -3 backups...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 06:51:57 PM
Help please. I am confused. HLN channel has Cindy on in iCourt. Is this a replay?
yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 06:52:06 PM
Just to be sure I am reading this right...................

When Cindy said on the stand today that she was still looking for "Zanny" up until 6 weeks ago -- she wasn't being literal, she was figuritively saying to casey: "I stood by you for 3 years unti we found out 6 weeks ago you were going to throw the whole family under the bus!"

that's my take on it  ::rhino::
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 06:53:23 PM
Help please. I am confused. HLN channel has Cindy on in iCourt. Is this a replay?

Yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: IBE on May 28, 2011, 06:53:45 PM
Thank you very much! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 06:55:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded

ok I couldnt sleep went back and heard this over! and it seems like at 1:07 casey is saying  fuc* her. ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 06:55:33 PM
Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 06:58:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded

ok I couldnt sleep went back and heard this over! and it seems like at 1:07 casey is saying  fuc* her. ?

Or does she fling her tissue across the table and say "I'm fXXXXX!"

Edit - language.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 06:59:05 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?
I'm confused lippman's motion could be about witness tampering? What does this mean?

Look Cindy has her head down here also may just someting she does when she is upset
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2011/05/06/outcome-of-hearing-today-judge-grants-lippmans-motion/

The date of this Humble Opinion article is May 6th, just to be clear it has nothing to do with Lippman's motion today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 07:00:32 PM
George Anthony ѕаіd thе subject οf thе father hаd come up, bυt аll hе remembers іѕ thаt thе last name wаѕ Baker. Bυt George ѕаіd Casey wаѕ аlѕο dating a man named Jesse.
Eric BakerI had in my notes

Death Certificate.  I believe that when Caylees body was found the question of whether Eric Baker was the father was resolved and HIS family was told.  I think:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Geesh...I must be losing it....I thought that the talk about Eric Baker became so much that his parents agreed to a dna test and it was discovered that he was NOT the father.  Where did I gt that?

Puzzler...I am remembering the same as you????
I'm sure Casey lied about this to her parents otherwise she would have been getting his SS check


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

"B-b-but, I'M supposed to be the center of attention here!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 07:03:18 PM
LOCA~   saw your comment back a few pages about GA.  I know it sounds harsh but I totally agree, both Baez & casey would have jumped for joy if they could have driven him to REAL suicide not like the one with pizza, beer and phone calls.  There's something terribly wrong with Baez, imo. He wants so bad to be the baddest, wiliest lawyer in the country but I think he's almost as evil as his client.
It's one thing to try and weave a fantastic story for defense but to actively try to destroy 3 mens lives? George: violent robo cop dad, incestuous dad, macabre granddaughter disposer.  Lee: incest.  Roy K: pedophile, graverobber (or in cahoots with fellow pedophile GA to "take" the body, store it and become "rich and famous"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 07:06:40 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

30 seconds..."She's going to protect him."

What is wrong with me?! LOL. I've watched this too much. I'm going to have nightmares tonight if I keep studying it. Off for a little walk.

Good evening monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

Weird, at 45 they're talking about something "she believes...".  The lawyers says something about believing, and Casey says back something about "she believes" meaning Cindy as she's still glaring and pointing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 07:06:58 PM
Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.
that is what I have been thinking scatty!
when she accused her dad! that was one thing! but when she went to far in also charging her brother. Than she hears tony saying on the stand! that it didnt happen!
than cindy get's up there and doesnt say what casey wants to hear!
that just sent her over the edge. it was that easy to become enraged with cindy the 16th and kill caylee out of spite. I think the teddy bear missing also indicates jealousy...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 07:10:27 PM
LOCA~   saw your comment back a few pages about GA.  I know it sounds harsh but I totally agree, both Baez & casey would have jumped for joy if they could have driven him to REAL suicide not like the one with pizza, beer and phone calls.  There's something terribly wrong with Baez, imo. He wants so bad to be the baddest, wiliest lawyer in the country but I think he's almost as evil as his client.
It's one thing to try and weave a fantastic story for defense but to actively try to destroy 3 mens lives? George: violent robo cop dad, incestuous dad, macabre granddaughter disposer.  Lee: incest.  Roy K: pedophile, graverobber (or in cahoots with fellow pedophile GA to "take" the body, store it and become "rich and famous"

I've come to feel that he is, in some ways, more evil.  She at least is a sociopath and it's her nature.  He's supposed to know better - he's supposed to uphold the law, not make things worse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 07:13:10 PM
LOCA~   saw your comment back a few pages about GA.  I know it sounds harsh but I totally agree, both Baez & casey would have jumped for joy if they could have driven him to REAL suicide not like the one with pizza, beer and phone calls.  There's something terribly wrong with Baez, imo. He wants so bad to be the baddest, wiliest lawyer in the country but I think he's almost as evil as his client.
It's one thing to try and weave a fantastic story for defense but to actively try to destroy 3 mens lives? George: violent robo cop dad, incestuous dad, macabre granddaughter disposer.  Lee: incest.  Roy K: pedophile, graverobber (or in cahoots with fellow pedophile GA to "take" the body, store it and become "rich and famous"
Mizjay I hope baez get's disbarred all the more now! now many people's live's will he ruin and how many innocent people that hire him! will get good representation. He plays dirty! is not a good lawyer and I dont see it getting any better. He is arrogant and it will not change because with more years as an attorney it will make him more arrogant and conniving. He is so badly trying to be like the real johnny cochran.. it will never happen. this man has no business practicing law. I was wondering... you know the anthonys have alot of dirt on baez and cindy can do him alot of harm... recall? he telling the PI that if they found the body not to call LE but to call him.. I bet cindy has alot on him and they are ready to swing the miudd you think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 07:13:18 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?
I'm confused lippman's motion could be about witness tampering? What does this mean?

Look Cindy has her head down here also may just someting she does when she is upset
http://humbleopinionforum.net/2011/05/06/outcome-of-hearing-today-judge-grants-lippmans-motion/

The date of this Humble Opinion article is May 6th, just to be clear it has nothing to do with Lippman's motion today.
Thanks ,That was why I got confused


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 07:14:13 PM
Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.
that is what I have been thinking scatty!
when she accused her dad! that was one thing! but when she went to far in also charging her brother. Than she hears tony saying on the stand! that it didnt happen!
than cindy get's up there and doesnt say what casey wants to hear!
that just sent her over the edge. it was that easy to become enraged with cindy the 16th and kill caylee out of spite. I think the teddy bear missing also indicates jealousy...

I asked Blink if she thought Teddy could have been the plumbing disaster but it's been in moderation for a long time so ??  ( I guess Blink actually HAS a life compared to  me sitting at home all day !!)
I wonder if C & G realize that their daughter may HAVE wanted to kill them or at least her dad? When HHJP said that the other day, my mouth went open. I bet her doesn't know how many times it's been written in the blogs.  They better hope she gets put in prison.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 07:20:17 PM
LOCA~   saw your comment back a few pages about GA.  I know it sounds harsh but I totally agree, both Baez & casey would have jumped for joy if they could have driven him to REAL suicide not like the one with pizza, beer and phone calls.  There's something terribly wrong with Baez, imo. He wants so bad to be the baddest, wiliest lawyer in the country but I think he's almost as evil as his client.
It's one thing to try and weave a fantastic story for defense but to actively try to destroy 3 mens lives? George: violent robo cop dad, incestuous dad, macabre granddaughter disposer.  Lee: incest.  Roy K: pedophile, graverobber (or in cahoots with fellow pedophile GA to "take" the body, store it and become "rich and famous"
Mizjay I hope baez get's disbarred all the more now! now many people's live's will he ruin and how many innocent people that hire him! will get good representation. He plays dirty! is not a good lawyer and I dont see it getting any better. He is arrogant and it will not change because with more years as an attorney it will make him more arrogant and conniving. He is so badly trying to be like the real johnny cochran.. it will never happen. this man has no business practicing law. I was wondering... you know the anthonys have alot of dirt on baez and cindy can do him alot of harm... recall? he telling the PI that if they found the body not to call LE but to call him.. I bet cindy has alot on him and they are ready to swing the miudd you think?

Yes but he is pretty clever like any good grifter. He more or less "gave" DC to the A's. They hired him on which places his metal rod poking in the woods squarely in the "bad George" camp. Bozo could claim, hey that guy wasn't working for me, it was GA trying to cover his own tracks.  Pretty complicated, if the A's had just behaved like regular people in the beginning.....some of this probably would not be happening. Glad they've wised up and hope they don't slide back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2011, 07:20:53 PM
Thanks 4 the video ::MonkeyJnBox::
I can see casey is only crying about herself...To bad the jury can't see this.
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

I've been trying, haven't actually seen a tear fall yet.  Noticed Casey glancing toward the camera a couple times too.  She's such a fake!  I think it could have all been a huge show to try to make Cindy feel bad...they all know she'll see it.

JMO

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 07:29:43 PM
LOCA~   saw your comment back a few pages about GA.  I know it sounds harsh but I totally agree, both Baez & casey would have jumped for joy if they could have driven him to REAL suicide not like the one with pizza, beer and phone calls.  There's something terribly wrong with Baez, imo. He wants so bad to be the baddest, wiliest lawyer in the country but I think he's almost as evil as his client.
It's one thing to try and weave a fantastic story for defense but to actively try to destroy 3 mens lives? George: violent robo cop dad, incestuous dad, macabre granddaughter disposer.  Lee: incest.  Roy K: pedophile, graverobber (or in cahoots with fellow pedophile GA to "take" the body, store it and become "rich and famous"
Mizjay I hope baez get's disbarred all the more now! now many people's live's will he ruin and how many innocent people that hire him! will get good representation. He plays dirty! is not a good lawyer and I dont see it getting any better. He is arrogant and it will not change because with more years as an attorney it will make him more arrogant and conniving. He is so badly trying to be like the real johnny cochran.. it will never happen. this man has no business practicing law. I was wondering... you know the anthonys have alot of dirt on baez and cindy can do him alot of harm... recall? he telling the PI that if they found the body not to call LE but to call him.. I bet cindy has alot on him and they are ready to swing the miudd you think?

Yes but he is pretty clever like any good grifter. He more or less "gave" DC to the A's. They hired him on which places his metal rod poking in the woods squarely in the "bad George" camp. Bozo could claim, hey that guy wasn't working for me, it was GA trying to cover his own tracks.  Pretty complicated, if the A's had just behaved like regular people in the beginning.....some of this probably would not be happening. Glad they've wised up and hope they don't slide back.
your right. Tim miller had to deal with alot of  verbal abuse from cindy... ... who knows what the end result will be. I hope they change their wicked ways and apologize to tim miller and others they offended ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 07:38:05 PM
I wonder how Cindy is going to explain the 911 call.  She later "claimed" she made up that it smelled like a dead body so the police would come sooner.  Will she admit the lie?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
Thanks 4 the video ::MonkeyJnBox::
I can see casey is only crying about herself...To bad the jury can't see this.
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

I've been trying, haven't actually seen a tear fall yet.  Noticed Casey glancing toward the camera a couple times too.  She's such a fake!  I think it could have all been a huge show to try to make Cindy feel bad...they all know she'll see it.

JMO
I know everybody probably hates these kind of personal stories BUT... I know a girl (32) who is so much like casey and she barely can cry. Even for things that we would be sobbing over, she will get enraged and should be crying but she just doesn't.  It's almost like she can't except a a few tears and then it goes back to anger. Very weird .
casey should have used some mental excuse, that would have been a slam dunk winner for her.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on May 28, 2011, 07:44:17 PM
I wonder how Cindy is going to explain the 911 call.  She later "claimed" she made up that it smelled like a dead body so the police would come sooner.  Will she admit the lie?


i think she just might. i also think the prosecution has done a good job of laying groundwork that the anthony's conflicting statements were because they didn't want to believe their daughter killed their granddaughter... i don't think their conflicting statements will end up being a prob for the jury as long as they tell the truth now. even on the anthony's worst day they are still a million times more credible than KC. combine that with all the other witness testimony we have heard and will hear and her goose is cooked.

the prosecution def has a way they are planning on dealing with the a's previous "mistruths"  (all imo of course)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 07:46:08 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

30 seconds..."She's going to protect him."

What is wrong with me?! LOL. I've watched this too much. I'm going to have nightmares tonight if I keep studying it. Off for a little walk.

Good evening monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

Weird, at 45 they're talking about something "she believes...".  The lawyers says something about believing, and Casey says back something about "she believes" meaning Cindy as she's still glaring and pointing.

I'm back from my walk feeling refreshed and the computer pulled me right back to the video again. I swear. The chair grabbed me and wheeled me right over and here I am studying on this again. With her moving her mouth so wide you can almost make out what she's saying and it's driving me nuts not knowing. Not once in this case have I cared what she says that we can't hear and my gosh I'm obsessed with it today!

I can't tell if it's she believes or maybe it's "she's believed this chit for three years for nothing!" and then DS says something to her and kc gets really hot and it's like she's saying "how can you suggest to me......" and DS is all "I'm sorry, you're right, I'm sorry."

Either she's being paranoid or it was some personal jab or both...but we watch Cindy walk away, you can see Mason watching Cindy, at 9 secs we see kc looking at Cindy with an OMG look on her face. At 13 secs she whispers to DS. Then DS is looking at the Anthonys too. They were looking at the A's together. Around 21 secs it seems to me that kc says "she's doing it to deliberately hurt me". At 23 secs DS says "I know...she's ...." At 33 secs "She's going to protect him". And oh wait...at 40 it seems like she's saying "She's never protected me..(from this chit?)...so why now?!" Then it looks like around 47-48 I swear it looks like she's saying "She's believed this chit for three years for nothing." ??? Then it looks like she's saying something like "How can you suggest to me...." and then DS says I'm sorry, you're right, I'm sorry."

It's not hard to tell Cindy did something to set her off or didn't do something that set her off. But I feel pretty sure kc is going to do her darndest to pull down her parents with her. We've seen quite a lot of nastiness in the courtroom but I think we're going to see hell fire and damnation next...but with idiot baez in charge, lol...not too worried. I'm starting to think that the group who say she'll take the stand may be right though... sure seems like it may lean that way which would be a huge mistake but then they are no strangers to screwing themselves.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 28, 2011, 07:50:58 PM
OK, I'm slow, but I just now heard this interview with Casey's former fiance, Jesse, where he says the reason she first broke off their engagement is that because Casey though he loved Caylee more than he loved her......


http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/16/tot-mom-former-fiance-jesse-grund-speaks-w-nancy-grace/?iref=obinsite


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 07:51:51 PM
This video  http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html, the Lippmann secret motion, and the missing video of Cindy leaving the courtroom with George today, are ALL making me nuts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 07:52:15 PM
I wonder how Cindy is going to explain the 911 call.  She later "claimed" she made up that it smelled like a dead body so the police would come sooner.  Will she admit the lie?


i think she just might. i also think the prosecution has done a good job of laying groundwork that the anthony's conflicting statements were because they didn't want to believe their daughter killed their granddaughter... i don't think their conflicting statements will end up being a prob for the jury as long as they tell the truth now. even on the anthony's worst day they are still a million times more credible than KC. combine that with all the other witness testimony we have heard and will hear and her goose is cooked.

the prosecution def has a way they are planning on dealing with the a's previous "mistruths"  (all imo of course)

Lying to a cop is one thing, lying to a judge is perjury.
Lying under oath is also known as perjury. It is a very serious criminal offense due to the threat it poses to the legal system.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 07:52:39 PM
I wonder how Cindy is going to explain the 911 call.  She later "claimed" she made up that it smelled like a dead body so the police would come sooner.  Will she admit the lie?


i think she just might. i also think the prosecution has done a good job of laying groundwork that the anthony's conflicting statements were because they didn't want to believe their daughter killed their granddaughter... i don't think their conflicting statements will end up being a prob for the jury as long as they tell the truth now. even on the anthony's worst day they are still a million times more credible than KC. combine that with all the other witness testimony we have heard and will hear and her goose is cooked. the prosecution def has a way they are planning on dealing with the a's previous "mistruths"  (all imo of course)

Thanks.  I sure hope she does the right thing.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 28, 2011, 07:54:06 PM
I wonder how Cindy is going to explain the 911 call.  She later "claimed" she made up that it smelled like a dead body so the police would come sooner.  Will she admit the lie?


i think she just might. i also think the prosecution has done a good job of laying groundwork that the anthony's conflicting statements were because they didn't want to believe their daughter killed their granddaughter... i don't think their conflicting statements will end up being a prob for the jury as long as they tell the truth now. even on the anthony's worst day they are still a million times more credible than KC. combine that with all the other witness testimony we have heard and will hear and her goose is cooked.

the prosecution def has a way they are planning on dealing with the a's previous "mistruths"  (all imo of course)

Lying to a cop is one thing, lying to a judge is perjury.
Lying under oath is also known as perjury. It is a very serious criminal offense due to the threat it poses to the legal system.



Aren't depositions done under oath?  Was she under oath when she said that.  I don't know where it came from I just know I heard her say it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 07:56:12 PM
What motion did Lippmann file?

 I hope someone knows the answer....I will keep reading

i dont think it's being disclosed until tuesday at 8:30 am.  i think it might have to do with tony's testimony.

thanks.....dang now we gotta wonder!! I have read the guesse4s and perhaps and maybe's...and they are all possible I guess....dang I hate to wait!! ::MonkeyTongue::

whatever the motion is, i'm wondering why its being kept a secret. either its something big, or maybe it wasn't updated on any of the court stuff yet because its a saturday?

I'm thinking it's this:  the motion was filed today - Saturday - no one is logging the motions until regular work time.  Today's Saturday, then Sunday, then Holiday Monday - the first time of regular work hours to log in the motion will be Tuesday a.m.  Since court convenes at 9:00 a.m., probablity is great that we won't know what the motion is until then.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 07:56:46 PM
This video  http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html, the Lippmann secret motion, and the missing video of Cindy leaving the courtroom with George today, are ALL making me nuts.
me tooo biggtime


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 07:59:33 PM
Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.
that is what I have been thinking scatty!
when she accused her dad! that was one thing! but when she went to far in also charging her brother. Than she hears tony saying on the stand! that it didnt happen!
than cindy get's up there and doesnt say what casey wants to hear!
that just sent her over the edge. it was that easy to become enraged with cindy the 16th and kill caylee out of spite. I think the teddy bear missing also indicates jealousy...

I don't think that Cindy would have met with Baez without at the very least Lippman present.  The A's have never liked Baez and have made that pretty plain..from the getgo they wanted her to get a new lawyer.  And if Casey has not been seeing her..she would hold Baez accountable for that too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 07:59:43 PM
OK, I'm slow, but I just now heard this interview with Casey's former fiance, Jesse, where he says the reason she first broke off their engagement is that because Casey though he loved Caylee more than he loved her......


http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/16/tot-mom-former-fiance-jesse-grund-speaks-w-nancy-grace/?iref=obinsite

After following this case 4 a long time and listening to these few days my thoughts on why she left him.
He took a maternity test, Caylee wasn't his, probably wouldn't adopt her after they got married.  So she couldn't divorce him and get child support.
He was just a meal ticket.....ALL jmo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:03:11 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

30 seconds..."She's going to protect him."

What is wrong with me?! LOL. I've watched this too much. I'm going to have nightmares tonight if I keep studying it. Off for a little walk.

Good evening monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

Weird, at 45 they're talking about something "she believes...".  The lawyers says something about believing, and Casey says back something about "she believes" meaning Cindy as she's still glaring and pointing.

I'm back from my walk feeling refreshed and the computer pulled me right back to the video again. I swear. The chair grabbed me and wheeled me right over and here I am studying on this again. With her moving her mouth so wide you can almost make out what she's saying and it's driving me nuts not knowing. Not once in this case have I cared what she says that we can't hear and my gosh I'm obsessed with it today!

I can't tell if it's she believes or maybe it's "she's believed this chit for three years for nothing!" and then DS says something to her and kc gets really hot and it's like she's saying "how can you suggest to me......" and DS is all "I'm sorry, you're right, I'm sorry."

Either she's being paranoid or it was some personal jab or both...but we watch Cindy walk away, you can see Mason watching Cindy, at 9 secs we see kc looking at Cindy with an OMG look on her face. At 13 secs she whispers to DS. Then DS is looking at the Anthonys too. They were looking at the A's together. Around 21 secs it seems to me that kc says "she's doing it to deliberately hurt me". At 23 secs DS says "I know...she's ...." At 33 secs "She's going to protect him". And oh wait...at 40 it seems like she's saying "She's never protected me..(from this chit?)...so why now?!" Then it looks like around 47-48 I swear it looks like she's saying "She's believed this chit for three years for nothing." ??? Then it looks like she's saying something like "How can you suggest to me...." and then DS says I'm sorry, you're right, I'm sorry."

It's not hard to tell Cindy did something to set her off or didn't do something that set her off. But I feel pretty sure kc is going to do her darndest to pull down her parents with her. We've seen quite a lot of nastiness in the courtroom but I think we're going to see hell fire and damnation next...but with idiot baez in charge, lol...not too worried. I'm starting to think that the group who say she'll take the stand may be right though... sure seems like it may lean that way which would be a huge mistake but then they are no strangers to screwing themselves.


nickandnora
I think casey xpected her mom to lie for her.. because she had been doing it for so long. I think lippman had a heart to heart talk with the anthonys. I think possibly they could have been facing serious obstruction charges. Either way it's a mess and casey is on her own with the most incompetent representation there is worldwide.  I  wished we could find a professional lip reader to decipher this video and it's meaning. I tried to nap but couldnt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 08:04:50 PM
I wonder how Cindy is going to explain the 911 call.  She later "claimed" she made up that it smelled like a dead body so the police would come sooner.  Will she admit the lie?

Logic dictates that the respective professions of Cindy and George implies both would recognize the odor of body decomposition.  Cindy is a nurse. George is a former cop.

Immediately following the pickup from the tow yard ... Cindy had her thoughts regarding the odor inside the vehicle ... thoughts that reflected her words "dead body" to the 911 operator a short time later.

Janet

+++++

Caylee Anthony's Grandfather Worried About Death Smell in Daughter's Trunk
Thursday, November 06, 2008


<snipped>

Newly-released documents reveal that the grandfather of a missing Florida toddler worried about the smell of death he detected coming from his daughter's car trunk.

<snipped>
 
The former cop told police that he was concerned about a familiar odor wafting from the trunk of his daughter's Pontiac Sunfire. As a former investigator, he said, he recognized the smell of death.

George Anthony's wife Cindy, who told the media the smell was that of decomposing pizza, noticed the odor in their daughter's car too, he said in interviews with detectives.

"After we pulled inside the garage ... her exact words were, ‘Jesus Christ what died?’" George Anthony told police. "That’s exactly what she said. But then she said it in a way, she says, ‘George, it was the pizza right?’ And I said, 'Yeah, it was the pizza.’

"And that’s what I left it go at that, but, I’m sitting here as the grandfather, as the father, as George Anthony and as a guy who smelled the smell before years ago, and you just never forget it. I even stuck my nose down on it and I’m, I’m concerned."

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,448106,00.html


 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 08:05:19 PM
What motion did Lippmann file?

 I hope someone knows the answer....I will keep reading

i dont think it's being disclosed until tuesday at 8:30 am.  i think it might have to do with tony's testimony.

thanks.....dang now we gotta wonder!! I have read the guesse4s and perhaps and maybe's...and they are all possible I guess....dang I hate to wait!! ::MonkeyTongue::

whatever the motion is, i'm wondering why its being kept a secret. either its something big, or maybe it wasn't updated on any of the court stuff yet because its a saturday?

I'm thinking it's this:  the motion was filed today - Saturday - no one is logging the motions until regular work time.  Today's Saturday, then Sunday, then Holiday Monday - the first time of regular work hours to log in the motion will be Tuesday a.m.  Since court convenes at 9:00 a.m., probablity is great that we won't know what the motion is until then.



Right Puzzler...and the defense and prosecution must each have a copy of the motion because the judge asked if they objected..no objection from the prosecution..of course yes, objection from the defense.  I thought he said they would hear the motion Tuesday at 8:30..they would need to do this before the jury is brought into the courtroom.

This has to be something pertaining to the A's and to this trial.  Request for immunity..I would have thought they would have done that sometime in the past 6 weeks...but maybe not.  Request for admittance of Tony's testimony about the "secret"..could be..none the afore mentioned..probably..IDK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 28, 2011, 08:07:38 PM
Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.
that is what I have been thinking scatty!
when she accused her dad! that was one thing! but when she went to far in also charging her brother. Than she hears tony saying on the stand! that it didnt happen!
than cindy get's up there and doesnt say what casey wants to hear!
that just sent her over the edge. it was that easy to become enraged with cindy the 16th and kill caylee out of spite. I think the teddy bear missing also indicates jealousy...

I don't think that Cindy would have met with Baez without at the very least Lippman present.  The A's have never liked Baez and have made that pretty plain..from the getgo they wanted her to get a new lawyer.  And if Casey has not been seeing her..she would hold Baez accountable for that too.

I believe that Lippman may have been at the meeting. Which may have something to do with the new motion. Lippman was surprised that the judge allowed both GA and CA to attend the trial; he'd thought it would just be CA, but he claimed he was glad for both.

I really, really think this judge is 10 steps ahead of the Defense, the Prosecution or any of us speculators. Not that he is taking sides, but he seems to see every possible angle of an issue and foresee what may come up in the future.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 08:12:40 PM
I am still trying to catch up on the videos of all the testimonies from the yesterday....somehow I am missing the one where the judge referances Casey trying to kill her parents....can someone please kindly point me in the right direction? TYIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 08:16:17 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 08:17:43 PM
I am still trying to catch up on the videos of all the testimonies from the yesterday....somehow I am missing the one where the judge referances Casey trying to kill her parents....can someone please kindly point me in the right direction? TYIA

I think it's at the very end of the last video of from yesterday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 08:18:04 PM


Question: If Baez is saying Casey lived in her own world, so much that she does not acknowledge a dead daughter etc. that she is suspected of murdering, wouldn't that be a plea of Innocent due to insanity? Yet she pleads innocent and surely he does not expect letting such a person let out on the streets under any circumstances. Let her live in her own little world behind bars.

Just imagine her life IF she got out. She has betrayed every person in her life. Either way her life is over...IMHO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 28, 2011, 08:19:55 PM
Cindy seemed like a sane person today on the stand. Very different from the Cindy we know.
Linda questioned her with respect and didn't badger her. Didn't ask Why ? Just got her to tell the story as Cindy knew it.
Wonder how she will hold up when Baez tries to gut her ?
.............
I caught the part where, on July 3, she had issues with Casey. She left the BANK and went to Universal, but of sourse, KC and Caylee weren't where KC told her they were. They were in Jacksonville, FL. That was the day when there were phone calls ( many from Cindy ) to KC and Cindy later sent Lee out to find her in some bars in Orlando. And the day of the MySpace.
....
I haven't made up my mind if they are all on the same page and this is all an act to get Casey off or what the deal is. I do think KC's anger at the end was real just the way the color around her nose went reddish.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 08:20:10 PM
nickandnora
I think casey xpected her mom to lie for her.. because she had been doing it for so long. I think lippman had a heart to heart talk with the anthonys. I think possibly they could have been facing serious obstruction charges. Either way it's a mess and casey is on her own with the most incompetent representation there is worldwide.  I  wished we could find a professional lip reader to decipher this video and it's meaning. I tried to nap but couldnt.

 ::monkeywine2:: Here ya go Loca...take a few sips and see if that helps you get some rest.

I think that had a lot to do with her reaction too...but the look on her face at first in the video...I mean, she looks like she just saw something so shocking happen right there and then and then disgusted and pissed when Cindy is in the gallery later. I suspect Cindy did something intentional as she was walking away from the stand or it's simply she couldn't believe that for once Cindy had no affection to show her while walking away from the stand. I too wish we had a pro to read those nasty lips. Certain words can be made out but there's so much that is a mystery. I don't think seeing how her mom testified set her off like that...it made her angry, but usually we can see that right away while it's happening...kc always has those knee jerk reactions she has so much trouble controlling. Imo, either she was waiting for some lovin' from Mama and was denied or cindy did something sneaky walking from the stand that made kc's jaw drop. Kc always reacts so immediate to things, you know? Maybe she was pissed that cindy never looked at her so she, kc, could flip her mom off? Lol. Ohhhhhhhhh, I wish we had a lip reader!

Here's hoping and wishing we all get a good night's sleep and I hope you all have a great long weekend!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 08:20:47 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

"B-b-but, I'M supposed to be the center of attention here!"

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

"She was supposed to blow me a kiss, tell me she loves me, SOMETHING!!"



I really think she thinks that way. How dare her not even look at me! I am so lovable, she has always believed my lies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 08:22:47 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 08:24:43 PM
OK, I'm slow, but I just now heard this interview with Casey's former fiance, Jesse, where he says the reason she first broke off their engagement is that because Casey though he loved Caylee more than he loved her......


http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/16/tot-mom-former-fiance-jesse-grund-speaks-w-nancy-grace/?iref=obinsite

After following this case 4 a long time and listening to these few days my thoughts on why she left him.
He took a maternity test, Caylee wasn't his, probably wouldn't adopt her after they got married.  So she couldn't divorce him and get child support.
He was just a meal ticket.....ALL jmo.
Also wasn't she cheating on him and he found out?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:25:34 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.


oh how weird I was was laying down and jumped back up thinking the same thing! I think they have alot of baez also! I have always said cindy has alot on baez! I think maybe they are going to tell all the truth and disclose his guildance ya think?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 08:27:28 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:28:09 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

"B-b-but, I'M supposed to be the center of attention here!"

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

"She was supposed to blow me a kiss, tell me she loves me, SOMETHING!!"



I really think she thinks that way. How dare her not even look at me! I am so lovable, she has always believed my lies.
Casey has allowed baez to alienate her from her parents.... there was a reason behind his logic.  He is an inept attorney... doing alot of strange things...  I remember close to the end of the frys hearings... cindy gave baez a hug... she was  so trustful of him wasnt she.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 08:29:22 PM
All Video's http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/2/AlogbqIQzWI


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:29:39 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


I realy thoguht maybe get baez fired but oncly casey can do that.. I wonder if cindy will try to get him disbarred.. when she is mad she is no joke.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2011, 08:30:07 PM
ok many of us say she didnt look at casey right?
and casey said she didnt even look at me right?
someone at :http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=800
posted this link with this comment:
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058043/index.html
---cindy looks at kc 15:51

I am confused did we see it? I didnt think so and is this correct?

Happens very quickly and yes, it looks like she quickly glances over at Casey when she first gets on the stand:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Picture0001.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Casey%20Anthony%20Murder%20Trial/05282011_CindylooksatCaseytheKiller2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 08:30:44 PM
All Video's http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/2/AlogbqIQzWI

Casey Anthony: Murder Trial Day 16 - 5/28/11 Part 15 (Cindy Anthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 08:33:26 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Well I have always wondered how Dom Casey knew where to go look for Caylee's body and to be looking for pavers or something similiar.

He was not working for Baez at that time..he was working for the A's. He is on the phone with atleast one person..and I just don't think the psychic in VA knew where the body was..that was a red herring thrown in there.  There is much more to the backend of that tale..and obviously Jim Hoover, the other detective with him, spilled what he knew to LE..I could be wrong but I have a feeling the A's are up to their eyebrows in that mess.  I am not saying they knew the body was there..it may have been they finally decoded Casey speak ..and it doesn't appear they found it..I do not believe that Cindy would have allowed Caylee's body to just remain there in the swampy area of the woods.  But it is fishy that they were right in the general area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:35:11 PM
nickandnora
I think casey xpected her mom to lie for her.. because she had been doing it for so long. I think lippman had a heart to heart talk with the anthonys. I think possibly they could have been facing serious obstruction charges. Either way it's a mess and casey is on her own with the most incompetent representation there is worldwide.  I  wished we could find a professional lip reader to decipher this video and it's meaning. I tried to nap but couldnt.

 ::monkeywine2:: Here ya go Loca...take a few sips and see if that helps you get some rest.

I think that had a lot to do with her reaction too...but the look on her face at first in the video...I mean, she looks like she just saw something so shocking happen right there and then and then disgusted and pissed when Cindy is in the gallery later. I suspect Cindy did something intentional as she was walking away from the stand or it's simply she couldn't believe that for once Cindy had no affection to show her while walking away from the stand. I too wish we had a pro to read those nasty lips. Certain words can be made out but there's so much that is a mystery. I don't think seeing how her mom testified set her off like that...it made her angry, but usually we can see that right away while it's happening...kc always has those knee jerk reactions she has so much trouble controlling. Imo, either she was waiting for some lovin' from Mama and was denied or cindy did something sneaky walking from the stand that made kc's jaw drop. Kc always reacts so immediate to things, you know? Maybe she was pissed that cindy never looked at her so she, kc, could flip her mom off? Lol. Ohhhhhhhhh, I wish we had a lip reader!

Here's hoping and wishing we all get a good night's sleep and I hope you all have a great long weekend!

thanks NICKANDNORA
I think I will  need a few bottles to do that lol!!
Maybe george and cindy hugging sent casey over the edge. she in her sick mentality thought that cindy would turn on her husband. she may have come closer to believing  casey being molested.. had she not thrown her brother lee in the mix!! that is the straw that broke the camels back. I wonder if lee has shed tears and been anguuished as george has been!! that she would  do this to her own  real support team. baez will fade away if she goes to prison and.. for some reason does she think he will help her thru the appeal process... not... she better get a reality check soon.. he only cares to be made famous.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 08:35:16 PM


I still wonder where she got money after Caylee was born and she wasn't working. That part of this is really bugging me! Since it went on for a couple of years, I just can't understand. These days it is not automatic that a guy pays. (Like it was in my dating days).

Cindy says Casey showed up at the house when George was there and she thought Casey was out of town. What happened on that day? Did she think her Dad wasn't home? Was that the day she took the Teddy away? I assume that Teddy information will show up again in this case, I am wondering how.-The act of her taking the Teddy-(at that point Caylee was dead) just creeps me out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 08:39:12 PM
OK, I'm slow, but I just now heard this interview with Casey's former fiance, Jesse, where he says the reason she first broke off their engagement is that because Casey though he loved Caylee more than he loved her......


http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/16/tot-mom-former-fiance-jesse-grund-speaks-w-nancy-grace/?iref=obinsite

After following this case 4 a long time and listening to these few days my thoughts on why she left him.
He took a maternity test, Caylee wasn't his, probably wouldn't adopt her after they got married.  So she couldn't divorce him and get child support.
He was just a meal ticket.....ALL jmo.
Also wasn't she cheating on him and he found out?

Yes she was..and I always thuoght that it was Casey who broke off the engagement...not Jesse..but I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:39:40 PM


Question: If Baez is saying Casey lived in her own world, so much that she does not acknowledge a dead daughter etc. that she is suspected of murdering, wouldn't that be a plea of Innocent due to insanity? Yet she pleads innocent and surely he does not expect letting such a person let out on the streets under any circumstances. Let her live in her own little world behind bars.

Just imagine her life IF she got out. She has betrayed every person in her life. Either way her life is over...IMHO.
yes agreed..lock her in a padded cell and throw away the key..poof


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 28, 2011, 08:39:55 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Ah, nice dream. At one time I'd say never, but after watching Cindy give kc the cold shoulder it makes me wonder that it could happen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:41:01 PM


I still wonder where she got money after Caylee was born and she wasn't working. That part of this is really bugging me! Since it went on for a couple of years, I just can't understand. These days it is not automatic that a guy pays. (Like it was in my dating days).

Cindy says Casey showed up at the house when George was there and she thought Casey was out of town. What happened on that day? Did she think her Dad wasn't home? Was that the day she took the Teddy away? I assume that Teddy information will show up again in this case, I am wondering how.-The act of her taking the Teddy-(at that point Caylee was dead) just creeps me out.
maybe they found the teddy bear in the woods or in the pipes with the plumbing problems... more likely though is the woods..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: abbey09 on May 28, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded

ok I couldnt sleep went back and heard this over! and it seems like at 1:07 casey is saying  fuc* her. ?

Around 1:13 it looks like she is saying: she is so wrong


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 08:44:06 PM
nickandnora
I think casey xpected her mom to lie for her.. because she had been doing it for so long. I think lippman had a heart to heart talk with the anthonys. I think possibly they could have been facing serious obstruction charges. Either way it's a mess and casey is on her own with the most incompetent representation there is worldwide.  I  wished we could find a professional lip reader to decipher this video and it's meaning. I tried to nap but couldnt.

 ::monkeywine2:: Here ya go Loca...take a few sips and see if that helps you get some rest.

I think that had a lot to do with her reaction too...but the look on her face at first in the video...I mean, she looks like she just saw something so shocking happen right there and then and then disgusted and pissed when Cindy is in the gallery later. I suspect Cindy did something intentional as she was walking away from the stand or it's simply she couldn't believe that for once Cindy had no affection to show her while walking away from the stand. I too wish we had a pro to read those nasty lips. Certain words can be made out but there's so much that is a mystery. I don't think seeing how her mom testified set her off like that...it made her angry, but usually we can see that right away while it's happening...kc always has those knee jerk reactions she has so much trouble controlling. Imo, either she was waiting for some lovin' from Mama and was denied or cindy did something sneaky walking from the stand that made kc's jaw drop. Kc always reacts so immediate to things, you know? Maybe she was pissed that cindy never looked at her so she, kc, could flip her mom off? Lol. Ohhhhhhhhh, I wish we had a lip reader!

Here's hoping and wishing we all get a good night's sleep and I hope you all have a great long weekend!

thanks NICKANDNORA
I think I will  need a few bottles to do that lol!!
Maybe george and cindy hugging sent casey over the edge. she in her sick mentality thought that cindy would turn on her husband. she may have come closer to believing  casey being molested.. had she not thrown her brother lee in the mix!! that is the straw that broke the camels back. I wonder if lee has shed tears and been anguuished as george has been!! that she would  do this to her own  real support team. baez will fade away if she goes to prison and.. for some reason does she think he will help her thru the appeal process... not... she better get a reality check soon.. he only cares to be made famous.

Baez and Mason will fade into the sunset after this is over..they will not be there for an handholding or appeals.

The lady who married the serial killer that is on her team..forget her name at the moment..but that is who will be her go to person..and she will get her a lawyer for the appeals that is state appointed..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 08:46:03 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Well I have always wondered how Dom Casey knew where to go look for Caylee's body and to be looking for pavers or something similiar.

He was not working for Baez at that time..he was working for the A's. He is on the phone with atleast one person..and I just don't think the psychic in VA knew where the body was..that was a red herring thrown in there.  There is much more to the backend of that tale..and obviously Jim Hoover, the other detective with him, spilled what he knew to LE..I could be wrong but I have a feeling the A's are up to their eyebrows in that mess.  I am not saying they knew the body was there..it may have been they finally decoded Casey speak ..and it doesn't appear they found it..I do not believe that Cindy would have allowed Caylee's body to just remain there in the swampy area of the woods.  But it is fishy that they were right in the general area.
fishy, fishy. between the family and Baez there is so much deceit. Dom C could NOT have been guided by a psychic or at least the one that the emails were from. I don't understand all that, but common sense says that a lawyer doesn't petition the court to be able to "search" with the accused in private and the same lawyer's PI ( ex PI) is within feet of the victim AND says that same atty, told him not to call 911 if he ever found her........it screams that Baez knew where that child was...which also blows his opening statement and allegations sky high.

If, according to Baez, the pedophile George had the body but somehow the pedophile Roy K acquires the body and his client was in the dark..had no knowledge of circumstances beyond the tragic drowning and her father demanding that she pretend all was well.........that makes BAEZ the owner of the false defense story which cannot possibly be kosher.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 08:47:42 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


Did George's attorney object to Baez's opening statement that graphically described the alleged horrific sexually abused of Casey as a child by her father?

Did George's attorney object to Baez's accusation that George was a participant in the disposal of his granddaughter's body?

Did George's attorney object to the questioning of George in regards to these topics outline in Baez's opening statement?

If not; why not?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 08:51:23 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


Did George's attorney object to Baez's opening statement that graphically described the alleged horrific sexually abused of Casey as a child by her father?

Did George's attorney object to Baez's accusation that George was a participant in the disposal of his granddaughter's body?

Did George's attorney object to the questioning of George in regards to these topics outline in Baez's opening statement?

If not; why not?

Janet

Because George Anthony is not on trial and his attorney doesn't have the right to "object" in open court.  The hearing scheduled for 8:30am Tuesday morning could be that objection but we won't know until then.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:52:41 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Well I have always wondered how Dom Casey knew where to go look for Caylee's body and to be looking for pavers or something similiar.

He was not working for Baez at that time..he was working for the A's. He is on the phone with atleast one person..and I just don't think the psychic in VA knew where the body was..that was a red herring thrown in there.  There is much more to the backend of that tale..and obviously Jim Hoover, the other detective with him, spilled what he knew to LE..I could be wrong but I have a feeling the A's are up to their eyebrows in that mess.  I am not saying they knew the body was there..it may have been they finally decoded Casey speak ..and it doesn't appear they found it..I do not believe that Cindy would have allowed Caylee's body to just remain there in the swampy area of the woods.  But it is fishy that they were right in the general area.
fishy, fishy. between the family and Baez there is so much deceit. Dom C could NOT have been guided by a psychic or at least the one that the emails were from. I don't understand all that, but common sense says that a lawyer doesn't petition the court to be able to "search" with the accused in private and the same lawyer's PI ( ex PI) is within feet of the victim AND says that same atty, told him not to call 911 if he ever found her........it screams that Baez knew where that child was...which also blows his opening statement and allegations sky high.

If, according to Baez, the pedophile George had the body but somehow the pedophile Roy K acquires the body and his client was in the dark..had no knowledge of circumstances beyond the tragic drowning and her father demanding that she pretend all was well.........that makes BAEZ the owner of the false defense story which cannot possibly be kosher.

like I said before is cindy going to sing ? before this goes any further?  because what you said totaly makes sense and a big no no to do... if thats the case its all over for baez..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 28, 2011, 08:53:41 PM
I'm looking for a Transcript of Cindy Anthony from today is their one?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:54:09 PM
nickandnora
I think casey xpected her mom to lie for her.. because she had been doing it for so long. I think lippman had a heart to heart talk with the anthonys. I think possibly they could have been facing serious obstruction charges. Either way it's a mess and casey is on her own with the most incompetent representation there is worldwide.  I  wished we could find a professional lip reader to decipher this video and it's meaning. I tried to nap but couldnt.

 ::monkeywine2:: Here ya go Loca...take a few sips and see if that helps you get some rest.

I think that had a lot to do with her reaction too...but the look on her face at first in the video...I mean, she looks like she just saw something so shocking happen right there and then and then disgusted and pissed when Cindy is in the gallery later. I suspect Cindy did something intentional as she was walking away from the stand or it's simply she couldn't believe that for once Cindy had no affection to show her while walking away from the stand. I too wish we had a pro to read those nasty lips. Certain words can be made out but there's so much that is a mystery. I don't think seeing how her mom testified set her off like that...it made her angry, but usually we can see that right away while it's happening...kc always has those knee jerk reactions she has so much trouble controlling. Imo, either she was waiting for some lovin' from Mama and was denied or cindy did something sneaky walking from the stand that made kc's jaw drop. Kc always reacts so immediate to things, you know? Maybe she was pissed that cindy never looked at her so she, kc, could flip her mom off? Lol. Ohhhhhhhhh, I wish we had a lip reader!

Here's hoping and wishing we all get a good night's sleep and I hope you all have a great long weekend!

thanks NICKANDNORA
I think I will  need a few bottles to do that lol!!
Maybe george and cindy hugging sent casey over the edge. she in her sick mentality thought that cindy would turn on her husband. she may have come closer to believing  casey being molested.. had she not thrown her brother lee in the mix!! that is the straw that broke the camels back. I wonder if lee has shed tears and been anguuished as george has been!! that she would  do this to her own  real support team. baez will fade away if she goes to prison and.. for some reason does she think he will help her thru the appeal process... not... she better get a reality check soon.. he only cares to be made famous.

Baez and Mason will fade into the sunset after this is over..they will not be there for an handholding or appeals.

The lady who married the serial killer that is on her team..forget her name at the moment..but that is who will be her go to person..and she will get her a lawyer for the appeals that is state appointed..


that would be rosie bolin


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 08:54:43 PM
What's this plumbing emergency stuff everymonkey is talking about?



Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.
that is what I have been thinking scatty!
when she accused her dad! that was one thing! but when she went to far in also charging her brother. Than she hears tony saying on the stand! that it didnt happen!
than cindy get's up there and doesnt say what casey wants to hear!
that just sent her over the edge. it was that easy to become enraged with cindy the 16th and kill caylee out of spite. I think the teddy bear missing also indicates jealousy...

I asked Blink if she thought Teddy could have been the plumbing disaster but it's been in moderation for a long time so ??  ( I guess Blink actually HAS a life compared to  me sitting at home all day !!)
I wonder if C & G realize that their daughter may HAVE wanted to kill them or at least her dad? When HHJP said that the other day, my mouth went open. I bet her doesn't know how many times it's been written in the blogs.  They better hope she gets put in prison.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:55:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded

ok I couldnt sleep went back and heard this over! and it seems like at 1:07 casey is saying  fuc* her. ?

Around 1:13 it looks like she is saying: she is so wrong

what amazes me with casey .. everybody is wrong but her!!
even her former friends/aquaintances that have spoken so far... everyone's wrong but casey.. everyones framing her..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 08:57:15 PM
What's this plumbing emergency stuff everymonkey is talking about?



Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.
that is what I have been thinking scatty!
when she accused her dad! that was one thing! but when she went to far in also charging her brother. Than she hears tony saying on the stand! that it didnt happen!
than cindy get's up there and doesnt say what casey wants to hear!
that just sent her over the edge. it was that easy to become enraged with cindy the 16th and kill caylee out of spite. I think the teddy bear missing also indicates jealousy...

I asked Blink if she thought Teddy could have been the plumbing disaster but it's been in moderation for a long time so ??  ( I guess Blink actually HAS a life compared to  me sitting at home all day !!)
I wonder if C & G realize that their daughter may HAVE wanted to kill them or at least her dad? When HHJP said that the other day, my mouth went open. I bet her doesn't know how many times it's been written in the blogs.  They better hope she gets put in prison.
supposedly there was a plumbing issue at the anthonys while casey was in jail.. alot of speculation of what could have plugged the drains/pipes and so forth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 08:57:56 PM
I will be biting my nails until the last witness is called. The A's are mellow right now but they can be volatile like in the Morgan depos. Can they keep up being polite , can they NOT take the bait from Baez?
Can Cindy stay steady and not cave into old patterns of covering for casey?  She's probably never been at a crossroad like this before...imo her moral compass has been broken a very long time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Western Observr on May 28, 2011, 08:59:01 PM


I still wonder where she got money after Caylee was born and she wasn't working. That part of this is really bugging me! Since it went on for a couple of years, I just can't understand. These days it is not automatic that a guy pays. (Like it was in my dating days).

Cindy says Casey showed up at the house when George was there and she thought Casey was out of town. What happened on that day? Did she think her Dad wasn't home? Was that the day she took the Teddy away? I assume that Teddy information will show up again in this case, I am wondering how.-The act of her taking the Teddy-(at that point Caylee was dead) just creeps me out.

That was June 24th when she realized George was at the house only after she'd put the garage door up. He had a feeling she had stolen the gas and broken into his garage so he insisted on going back to her car to get a tool out of the trunk. She ran past him and said "Here's your f***ing gas cans" before he could get as far as the trunk.  I bet that scared the bejeezus out of her, finding him at home and his almost getting in the trunk!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 08:59:56 PM
I'm looking for a Transcript of Cindy Anthony from today is their one?

Blonde - not that I've seen yet. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 09:00:02 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Ah, nice dream. At one time I'd say never, but after watching Cindy give kc the cold shoulder it makes me wonder that it could happen.

My opinion is that Cindy and George are and will continue to tell the truth and nothing but the truth.

I don't know how Lee will handle it, he has not had the Baez cross. Mallory, I did not think did such a great job. She saw the relationship as amazing, and it probably was, when she saw it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 09:02:39 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/05/28/caylee-anthony-case-review-of-trial-week-1/
week review by val


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 09:03:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded

ok I couldnt sleep went back and heard this over! and it seems like at 1:07 casey is saying  fuc* her. ?

Around 1:13 it looks like she is saying: she is so wrong

what amazes me with casey .. everybody is wrong but her!!
even her former friends/aquaintances that have spoken so far... everyone's wrong but casey.. everyones framing her..

Wait til Bozo gets to his personal grudge match with LE. The big bad "men with guns, armed men"  who also started this vast conspiracy to frame her. CornCob used that term "conspiracy"....the whole world was persecuting this "child" per Mason.     Ugh...I gotta quit posting, they all make me sick!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
Judge Jeanine Pirro is on for the next hour on Fox..her show is called Justice for Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 09:09:12 PM


I still wonder where she got money after Caylee was born and she wasn't working. That part of this is really bugging me! Since it went on for a couple of years, I just can't understand. These days it is not automatic that a guy pays. (Like it was in my dating days).

Cindy says Casey showed up at the house when George was there and she thought Casey was out of town. What happened on that day? Did she think her Dad wasn't home? Was that the day she took the Teddy away? I assume that Teddy information will show up again in this case, I am wondering how.-The act of her taking the Teddy-(at that point Caylee was dead) just creeps me out.

That was June 24th when she realized George was at the house only after she'd put the garage door up. He had a feeling she had stolen the gas and broken into his garage so he insisted on going back to her car to get a tool out of the trunk. She ran past him and said "Here's your f***ing gas cans" before he could get as far as the trunk.  I bet that scared the bejeezus out of her, finding him at home and his almost getting in the trunk!

I need a big calendar like they use in court to keep up with these dates and facts as they are presented!

Those gas cans also are important to show she lied-when Cindy told her of the shed broken into, she did not say she did it and did not fess up to really being in town. Also, the tape on the cans matched the tape on Caylee.

I was watching one of the CSI or law and order, they are all the same to me  ::MonkeyTongue:: shows, and they had duct tape to analyze. The edges of the tape can be matched up to the roll . It never tears perfectly across, so analyzing it show what piece might come from what roll, and connect it all together.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 09:09:47 PM
Sounds like our old nemesis Joey Taco is pro George


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 09:11:27 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/05/28/caylee-anthony-case-review-of-trial-week-1/
week review by val

That was great! Thanks for posting!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 28, 2011, 09:11:55 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


Did George's attorney object to Baez's opening statement that graphically described the alleged horrific sexually abused of Casey as a child by her father?

Did George's attorney object to Baez's accusation that George was a participant in the disposal of his granddaughter's body?

Did George's attorney object to the questioning of George in regards to these topics outline in Baez's opening statement?

If not; why not?

Janet

Because the Anthonys are not on trial and their lawyer has no standing to object.  He cannot sue anyone for something said during a court proceding.  The law protects such speech. It has to be something said outside court.  It is Casey who is on trial and Baez, et.al. are her attorneys. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 28, 2011, 09:15:13 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/05/28/caylee-anthony-case-review-of-trial-week-1/
week review by val

That was great! Thanks for posting!

Monkeys, the end of the above article has some good guesses on what KC was saying as we were all trying ton read her lips. Great review too, I always worry I missed something, but I was correct in my thinking that Baez's story about George and Roy Kronk moving the body made no sense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 09:16:33 PM
fishy, fishy. between the family and Baez there is so much deceit. Dom C could NOT have been guided by a psychic or at least the one that the emails were from. I don't understand all that, but common sense says that a lawyer doesn't petition the court to be able to "search" with the accused in private and the same lawyer's PI ( ex PI) is within feet of the victim AND says that same atty, told him not to call 911 if he ever found her........it screams that Baez knew where that child was...which also blows his opening statement and allegations sky high.

If, according to Baez, the pedophile George had the body but somehow the pedophile Roy K acquires the body and his client was in the dark..had no knowledge of circumstances beyond the tragic drowning and her father demanding that she pretend all was well.........that makes BAEZ the owner of the false defense story which cannot possibly be kosher.


I agree!!

Thank you.  I felt that I had entered the twilight zone in regards to the direction that I suspect that the defence is headed.

it is so obvious to me that Baez's claim of sexual abuse by George against her daughter as well as his participation in the disposal of Caylee's body is all a defence strategy to distract from the truth ... a defence strategy which includes the Anthony family.

The Anthonys will go through the motions which will appear that cooperation with prosecutors is where it is at while Baez mission is to establish reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury in an attempt to gain Casey's freedom.

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
What's this plumbing emergency stuff everymonkey is talking about?



Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.
that is what I have been thinking scatty!
when she accused her dad! that was one thing! but when she went to far in also charging her brother. Than she hears tony saying on the stand! that it didnt happen!
than cindy get's up there and doesnt say what casey wants to hear!
that just sent her over the edge. it was that easy to become enraged with cindy the 16th and kill caylee out of spite. I think the teddy bear missing also indicates jealousy...

I asked Blink if she thought Teddy could have been the plumbing disaster but it's been in moderation for a long time so ??  ( I guess Blink actually HAS a life compared to  me sitting at home all day !!)
I wonder if C & G realize that their daughter may HAVE wanted to kill them or at least her dad? When HHJP said that the other day, my mouth went open. I bet her doesn't know how many times it's been written in the blogs.  They better hope she gets put in prison.

I am not Blink but she did comment here recently.. sometime in the last couple of weeks..  she thinks it may have been some of Caylee's clothing? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 09:25:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9ReGAV-Q&feature=player_embedded

ok I couldnt sleep went back and heard this over! and it seems like at 1:07 casey is saying  fuc* her. ?

Around 1:13 it looks like she is saying: she is so wrong

what amazes me with casey .. everybody is wrong but her!!
even her former friends/aquaintances that have spoken so far... everyone's wrong but casey.. everyones framing her..

narcissistic personality disorder (IMHO)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 09:27:37 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


Did George's attorney object to Baez's opening statement that graphically described the alleged horrific sexually abused of Casey as a child by her father?

Did George's attorney object to Baez's accusation that George was a participant in the disposal of his granddaughter's body?

Did George's attorney object to the questioning of George in regards to these topics outline in Baez's opening statement?

If not; why not?

Janet

Because George Anthony is not on trial and his attorney doesn't have the right to "object" in open court.  The hearing scheduled for 8:30am Tuesday morning could be that objection but we won't know until then.

If George and Lee challenge through legal representation Baez's defamation in his opening statement ... I will concede that my hinky feelings are wrong.  If there is no challenge ...

Janet  
Edit to fix post per Janet.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 09:27:50 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?
I always wondered how it was possible for Baez to talk to the A's about a month or 6 weeks ago knowing they were witnesses in the case. If Lippman brings this up, could it be cause for a mistrial? Which could be the whole reason why this happened. Which would mean that Lippman and Baez are working for the same cause. Mistrial.

JP asked both the state & the duhfense if there would be any objections regarding the motion filed by Lippman.
The state had NO objections....Duhfense... YES, they have objections


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 09:27:54 PM
fishy, fishy. between the family and Baez there is so much deceit. Dom C could NOT have been guided by a psychic or at least the one that the emails were from. I don't understand all that, but common sense says that a lawyer doesn't petition the court to be able to "search" with the accused in private and the same lawyer's PI ( ex PI) is within feet of the victim AND says that same atty, told him not to call 911 if he ever found her........it screams that Baez knew where that child was...which also blows his opening statement and allegations sky high.

If, according to Baez, the pedophile George had the body but somehow the pedophile Roy K acquires the body and his client was in the dark..had no knowledge of circumstances beyond the tragic drowning and her father demanding that she pretend all was well.........that makes BAEZ the owner of the false defense story which cannot possibly be kosher.


I agree!!

Thank you.  I felt that I had entered the twilight zone in regards to the direction that I suspect that the defence is headed.

it is so obvious to me that Baez's claim of sexual abuse by George against her daughter as well as his participation in the disposal of Caylee's body is all a defence strategy to distract from the truth ... a defence strategy which includes the Anthony family.

The Anthonys will go through the motions which will appear that cooperation with prosecutors is where it is at while Baez mission is to establish reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury in an attempt to gain Casey's freedom.

IMO

Janet


I pray that isn't what's going on here but I did hear of a case like this. I tried for a long time last night to find it for a link but couldn't come up with it. A son on trial for murder, his defense accused his father and IIRC the son was acquitted. The best i could see them getting with this strategy is a hung jury but I learned never to say never. You never know what a jury will do but my thought is, if Baez has had an active hand in manipulating evidence and witnesses I think the decision, no matter what it is, will be thrown out...him too I hope. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 09:27:57 PM
Diane Fanning said she coulnt see any evidence GA sexually abused KC.
Gloria Allred is on, what a repulsive woman
Anyone read Diane Fannings book?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 09:29:23 PM
MY LAST POST

If George, Cindy and Lee s/b If George and Lee

Fixed.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 09:32:41 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?
I always wondered how it was possible for Baez to talk to the A's about a month or 6 weeks ago knowing they were witnesses in the case. If Lippman brings this up, could it be cause for a mistrial? Which could be the whole reason why this happened. Which would mean that Lippman and Baez are working for the same cause. Mistrial.

JP asked both the state & the duhfense if there would be any objections regarding the motion filed by Lippman.
The state had NO objections....Duhfense... YES, they have objections

They are witnesses for both the State and the Defense.  I know they are named on the mitigation witness list the defense filed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
also its possible lippman's motion could be about witness tampering?
I always wondered how it was possible for Baez to talk to the A's about a month or 6 weeks ago knowing they were witnesses in the case. If Lippman brings this up, could it be cause for a mistrial? Which could be the whole reason why this happened. Which would mean that Lippman and Baez are working for the same cause. Mistrial.

JP asked both the state & the duhfense if there would be any objections regarding the motion filed by Lippman.
The state had NO objections....Duhfense... YES, they have objections

And that is when Perry said it will be heard on Tuesday morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 28, 2011, 09:34:44 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 09:36:17 PM
MY LAST POST

If George, Cindy and Lee s/b If George and Lee

Fixed.  MB

Thank you.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 09:37:56 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28058178/index.html

30 seconds..."She's going to protect him."

What is wrong with me?! LOL. I've watched this too much. I'm going to have nightmares tonight if I keep studying it. Off for a little walk.

Good evening monkeys  ::MonkeyAngel::

@ about 50 seconds, she says...????? 3 years, nothing.....now has her chance???? and she tells them about every single lie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 09:38:53 PM
I think anyone who wants to sue Baez for defamation of character will wait until the end of trial. 

Reason being..he isn't done yet..heck this could end up being a class action suit..just joking..but Kronk will probably also sue him , as well as George and Lee.  But until the trial is over he may have more false statements to make against others..and until there is an outcome to the trial it is a he said/ she said type of thing.  I think to sue now would be premature..best wait and get the full tilt of the situation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 09:41:19 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 09:45:18 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

"B-b-but, I'M supposed to be the center of attention here!"

What's really sad is apparently Ms Simms has bought her crap....good luck with that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:47:08 PM
Is it possible that Lippman and the Anthony's met with the State, after learning what Casey was going to do, and they were given some sort of immunity from their previous statements for the truth now??  IDK if it's possible, but deals are made all the time.


I love watching Casey lose it today!    ::MonkeyDevil::   I quite enjoy watching it over and over again.   ::MonkeyDevil:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 09:48:36 PM
Diane Fanning said she coulnt see any evidence GA sexually abused KC.
Gloria Allred is on, what a repulsive woman
Anyone read Diane Fannings book?

Yes I read "Mommy's Little Girl" by Diane Fanning

(the day it was released....I admit, I'm pathetic LOL)

I thought her book was a good read.....no real bombshells, she got most of her info from the same documents released as we did. There were a couple tid bits of info from family (KC's uncle, Gramma Shirley IIRC) that I hadn't seen or prob just forgot about it. I continue to use it as one of my references, I keep it on my desk right next to my PC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

"B-b-but, I'M supposed to be the center of attention here!"

What's really sad is apparently Ms Simms has bought her crap....good luck with that!

Ms Simms has to make herself believe her crap...it is part of her profession and how sad is that! How can they sleep at night is beyond me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 09:49:23 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

"B-b-but, I'M supposed to be the center of attention here!"

What's really sad is apparently Ms Simms has bought her crap....good luck with that!
I'm not so sure about that, with Simms.  I think she just wanted Casey to compose herself so she could go back to ignoring her.   

What do you suppose Mason sent the young gal atty. for, when this was going on?  Meds for Casey??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 09:50:58 PM
Is it possible that Lippman and the Anthony's met with the State, after learning what Casey was going to do, and they were given some sort of immunity from their previous statements for the truth now??  IDK if it's possible, but deals are made all the time.


I love watching Casey lose it today!    ::MonkeyDevil::   I quite enjoy watching it over and over again.   ::MonkeyDevil:: 

Same here, at least half a dozen  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 09:51:13 PM
Is it possible that Lippman and the Anthony's met with the State, after learning what Casey was going to do, and they were given some sort of immunity from their previous statements for the truth now??  IDK if it's possible, but deals are made all the time.


I love watching Casey lose it today!    ::MonkeyDevil::   I quite enjoy watching it over and over again.   ::MonkeyDevil:: 

Very possible and very likely.
They wouldn't motion for that in open court during a trial..that would have been a deal they struck probably right around 6 weeks ago.

Lee got some sort of immunity during his depo..many think that Dom Casey did as well during his...so the witnesses are not stacking up in Casey's favor anylonger.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 09:54:20 PM


I still wonder where she got money after Caylee was born and she wasn't working. That part of this is really bugging me! Since it went on for a couple of years, I just can't understand. These days it is not automatic that a guy pays. (Like it was in my dating days).

Cindy says Casey showed up at the house when George was there and she thought Casey was out of town. What happened on that day? Did she think her Dad wasn't home? Was that the day she took the Teddy away? I assume that Teddy information will show up again in this case, I am wondering how.-The act of her taking the Teddy-(at that point Caylee was dead) just creeps me out.
maybe they found the teddy bear in the woods or in the pipes with the plumbing problems... more likely though is the woods..

When did this happen???  Never heard anything about this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 09:54:40 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/meltdown2-1.png)

"B-b-but, I'M supposed to be the center of attention here!"

What's really sad is apparently Ms Simms has bought her crap....good luck with that!
I'm not so sure about that, with Simms.  I think she just wanted Casey to compose herself so she could go back to ignoring her.   

What do you suppose Mason sent the young gal atty. for, when this was going on?  Meds for Casey??

That or a straight jacket..I wouldn't think Mason would be all favorable to her meltdowns.

I think Simms is just there to pacify her..and is having a hard time because she obviously didn't say the right thing to her at  one point in the tape.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 09:56:57 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Ah, nice dream. At one time I'd say never, but after watching Cindy give kc the cold shoulder it makes me wonder that it could happen.

My opinion is that Cindy and George are and will continue to tell the truth and nothing but the truth.

I don't know how Lee will handle it, he has not had the Baez cross. Mallory, I did not think did such a great job. She saw the relationship as amazing, and it probably was, when she saw it.

*BBM*

which was minimal at best


Guess KC thought Mom Cindy would follow suit with the "amazing" lovefest bullchit after Mallory....... WRONG!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 09:59:14 PM


This has been stated many times, but I am going to say again...Casey is pouting when jury is present, shaking her head back and forth, adjusting her clothes, grooming her hair and lips and clothes over and over and over, looking at what her tissues have in them, looking at what she picks off her mouth and does not show emotion when her dead daughter is mentioned. She seems to me to be one cold human being unless it is about her.

People have referred to her as beautiful and I just do not see it. Beautiful person label  ::monkeydenied::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 28, 2011, 10:01:30 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28060588/index.html
WFTV Special: Casey On Trial - Weekly Recap
Watch a WFTV Eyewitness News Special - Casey on Trial - a weekly recap. (05/28/11)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 10:01:41 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Well I have always wondered how Dom Casey knew where to go look for Caylee's body and to be looking for pavers or something similiar.

He was not working for Baez at that time..he was working for the A's. He is on the phone with atleast one person..and I just don't think the psychic in VA knew where the body was..that was a red herring thrown in there.  There is much more to the backend of that tale..and obviously Jim Hoover, the other detective with him, spilled what he knew to LE..I could be wrong but I have a feeling the A's are up to their eyebrows in that mess.  I am not saying they knew the body was there..it may have been they finally decoded Casey speak ..and it doesn't appear they found it..I do not believe that Cindy would have allowed Caylee's body to just remain there in the swampy area of the woods.  But it is fishy that they were right in the general area.
fishy, fishy. between the family and Baez there is so much deceit. Dom C could NOT have been guided by a psychic or at least the one that the emails were from. I don't understand all that, but common sense says that a lawyer doesn't petition the court to be able to "search" with the accused in private and the same lawyer's PI ( ex PI) is within feet of the victim AND says that same atty, told him not to call 911 if he ever found her........it screams that Baez knew where that child was...which also blows his opening statement and allegations sky high.

If, according to Baez, the pedophile George had the body but somehow the pedophile Roy K acquires the body and his client was in the dark..had no knowledge of circumstances beyond the tragic drowning and her father demanding that she pretend all was well.........that makes BAEZ the owner of the false defense story which cannot possibly be kosher.

like I said before is cindy going to sing ? before this goes any further?  because what you said totaly makes sense and a big no no to do... if thats the case its all over for baez..

This really far out there.
Why the smell in casey's car then.
George used casey's car?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 10:01:43 PM
Think about Jose Baez's opening statement regarding the horrible accusations against Lee Anthony and then think about Mallory Parker's "gushing" response to questioning in regards to Casey's relationship with Caylee.  Amazing?  Special bond?  Would "good" not have sufficed when the defamation of her fiancee is considered.

There is something wrong with this picture.

IMO

Janet

+++++++

Page 2 of 2
ORLANDO, Fla. May 27, 2011
Testimony in Casey Anthony Murder Trial to Deathly Odor in Her Car


<snipped>

The morning started with an emotional moment when the fiancee of Casey Anthony's brother broke down in tears describing the young mom's relationship with her daughter Caylee.

"It was amazing," said Mallory Parker. "Casey and Caylee had a really, a very special bond."

Anthony, 25, also cried as she listened to her future sister-in-law describe how Anthony cared for Caylee.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-car-trunk-maggots-smell-death/story?id=13702807&page=2




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:03:47 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.
She did.  Page 16     http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33391142/River-Cruz-Krystal-Holloway-OCSO-Interviews


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 10:04:12 PM


I still wonder where she got money after Caylee was born and she wasn't working. That part of this is really bugging me! Since it went on for a couple of years, I just can't understand. These days it is not automatic that a guy pays. (Like it was in my dating days).

Cindy says Casey showed up at the house when George was there and she thought Casey was out of town. What happened on that day? Did she think her Dad wasn't home? Was that the day she took the Teddy away? I assume that Teddy information will show up again in this case, I am wondering how.-The act of her taking the Teddy-(at that point Caylee was dead) just creeps me out.
maybe they found the teddy bear in the woods or in the pipes with the plumbing problems... more likely though is the woods..

When did this happen???  Never heard anything about this.

The Teddy missing was mentioned today by Cindy. That is all I know


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 28, 2011, 10:05:43 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.
Could be, I heard it last night on JVM from Jane  ? Wientraub. She seems to know defense stuff before it happens. They will make George out to be a liar / thief, prey on sick peeps if that lady is called.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 10:06:27 PM
Think about Jose Baez's opening statement regarding the horrible accusations against Lee Anthony and then think about Mallory Parker's "gushing" response to questioning in regards to Casey's relationship with Caylee.  Amazing?  Special bond?  Would "good" not have sufficed when the defamation of her fiancee is considered.

There is something wrong with this picture.

IMO

Janet

+++++++

Page 2 of 2
ORLANDO, Fla. May 27, 2011
Testimony in Casey Anthony Murder Trial to Deathly Odor in Her Car


<snipped>

The morning started with an emotional moment when the fiancee of Casey Anthony's brother broke down in tears describing the young mom's relationship with her daughter Caylee.

"It was amazing," said Mallory Parker. "Casey and Caylee had a really, a very special bond."

Anthony, 25, also cried as she listened to her future sister-in-law describe how Anthony cared for Caylee.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-car-trunk-maggots-smell-death/story?id=13702807&page=2



It goes to show that Casey is a great pretender, liar extrodinaire and a female version of Jekyll and Hyde...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.

"She told him that, 'I would never ask you that.' In reply, he said it was an accident that snowballed out of control," Benhaida said.
http://www.wftv.com/news/22825765/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:07:43 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Immunity request...hmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.
She did.  Page 16     http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33391142/River-Cruz-Krystal-Holloway-OCSO-Interviews

tupelohoney ... thanks for the document link.

Kat_Gram ... I have wondered what were the contents of that suicide note.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:13:49 PM
Sorry if already posted.

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

Casey Anthony’s Body Language Shows How She Is Engraged By Cindy’s New Courtroom Behavior As Casey Throws Tantrum During Recess
May 28, 2011


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 10:14:25 PM
Think about Jose Baez's opening statement regarding the horrible accusations against Lee Anthony and then think about Mallory Parker's "gushing" response to questioning in regards to Casey's relationship with Caylee.  Amazing?  Special bond?  Would "good" not have sufficed when the defamation of her fiancee is considered.

There is something wrong with this picture.

IMO

Janet

+++++++

Page 2 of 2
ORLANDO, Fla. May 27, 2011
Testimony in Casey Anthony Murder Trial to Deathly Odor in Her Car


<snipped>

The morning started with an emotional moment when the fiancee of Casey Anthony's brother broke down in tears describing the young mom's relationship with her daughter Caylee.

"It was amazing," said Mallory Parker. "Casey and Caylee had a really, a very special bond."

Anthony, 25, also cried as she listened to her future sister-in-law describe how Anthony cared for Caylee.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-car-trunk-maggots-smell-death/story?id=13702807&page=2



It goes to show that Casey is a great pretender, liar extrodinaire and a female version of Jekyll and Hyde...

I agree.

However ... what does the article reveal about Mallory when you consider she is engaged to the man who Casey has accused of sexually abusing her?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 10:15:15 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/28060588/index.html

WFTV Special: Casey On Trial - Weekly Recap
Watch a WFTV Eyewitness News Special - Casey on Trial - a weekly recap. (05/28/11)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 28, 2011, 10:16:39 PM
Janet~  that testimony by Mallory was too intense, too complimentary.   Just like you said, for a heartless witch accusing your fiance' of terrible things? 
     They're all the most dysfunctional human beings in the world or this will end up being the biggest con in legal history.

It does give me a measure of comfort that Lyon, opted out of this debacle. Why? I don't buy money being the issue. This case is getting press, her crappy cause of getting felons off of death row by any means, would have been publicity and more. Did she leave because she's smart enough to see a lawyer hellbent on playing loose and fast with her credentials? If he's concocted this defense based on what he KNEW were lies and it's exposed there's going to be trouble.

Same goes for LKB, she's still getting some mileage out of this but free from any responsibility if it goes south.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 10:17:08 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Well I have always wondered how Dom Casey knew where to go look for Caylee's body and to be looking for pavers or something similiar.

He was not working for Baez at that time..he was working for the A's. He is on the phone with atleast one person..and I just don't think the psychic in VA knew where the body was..that was a red herring thrown in there.  There is much more to the backend of that tale..and obviously Jim Hoover, the other detective with him, spilled what he knew to LE..I could be wrong but I have a feeling the A's are up to their eyebrows in that mess.  I am not saying they knew the body was there..it may have been they finally decoded Casey speak ..and it doesn't appear they found it..I do not believe that Cindy would have allowed Caylee's body to just remain there in the swampy area of the woods.  But it is fishy that they were right in the general area.
fishy, fishy. between the family and Baez there is so much deceit. Dom C could NOT have been guided by a psychic or at least the one that the emails were from. I don't understand all that, but common sense says that a lawyer doesn't petition the court to be able to "search" with the accused in private and the same lawyer's PI ( ex PI) is within feet of the victim AND says that same atty, told him not to call 911 if he ever found her........it screams that Baez knew where that child was...which also blows his opening statement and allegations sky high.

If, according to Baez, the pedophile George had the body but somehow the pedophile Roy K acquires the body and his client was in the dark..had no knowledge of circumstances beyond the tragic drowning and her father demanding that she pretend all was well.........that makes BAEZ the owner of the false defense story which cannot possibly be kosher.

like I said before is cindy going to sing ? before this goes any further?  because what you said totaly makes sense and a big no no to do... if thats the case its all over for baez..

This really far out there.
Why the smell in casey's car then.
George used casey's car?

In 2 cases that I know of, the victim's body was found in an area that was previously declared searched. Daniel Van Dam and Chelsea King. Yes the area* was searched, but not every inch ...or the body would have been found! (it was eventually found there) Because, it was there, in the area of where they searched, and for whatever reason was overlooked.

It always makes me mad when they claim foul play that an area was searched (supposedly every inch) and the body was ultimately found. The plant growth will show otherwise IMHO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 10:19:10 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.
She did.  Page 16     http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33391142/River-Cruz-Krystal-Holloway-OCSO-Interviews

tupelohoney ... thanks for the document link.

Kat_Gram ... I have wondered what were the contents of that suicide note.

Wouldn't the state look at that document?
Is she on the witness list?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tnmomb on May 28, 2011, 10:19:22 PM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:23:30 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


Did George's attorney object to Baez's opening statement that graphically described the alleged horrific sexually abused of Casey as a child by her father?

Did George's attorney object to Baez's accusation that George was a participant in the disposal of his granddaughter's body?

Did George's attorney object to the questioning of George in regards to these topics outline in Baez's opening statement?

If not; why not?

Janet

What George's attorney did do:

He made a statement to the press and said that George didn't molest Casey.

He made another statement to the press and said that if the defense team goes down the road of George molesting Casey, then she will be destroyed.

He was on one of the morning shows and stated that the A's will sue Baez.

He made another press statement that was recently reported by Reuters that said KC's psych report says she is "deeply disturbed".

Lippmann has not been silent.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 10:24:22 PM
Kiomaria Cruz, is that the person your talking about?
This person's on the witness list..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

tnmomb
- I missed his testimony.  I'll have to go back and listen. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 28, 2011, 10:28:58 PM
I take it chloroform doesn't deposit in the bones.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tnmomb on May 28, 2011, 10:30:28 PM
Thanks Klaas. I was going to clip it for everyone if there is a transcript you can direct me too. But part of it was his delivery too. I would love to know what you think,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 10:30:45 PM
Is it possible that Lippman and the Anthony's met with the State, after learning what Casey was going to do, and they were given some sort of immunity from their previous statements for the truth now??  IDK if it's possible, but deals are made all the time.


I love watching Casey lose it today!    ::MonkeyDevil::   I quite enjoy watching it over and over again.   ::MonkeyDevil:: 
I agree tupelo. I posted that several times today..I think anything is possible at this point except Kronk holding caylees bodyfor a few months for the reward


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 28, 2011, 10:32:49 PM
Diane Fanning said she coulnt see any evidence GA sexually abused KC.
Gloria Allred is on, what a repulsive woman
Anyone read Diane Fannings book?

Yes I read "Mommy's Little Girl" by Diane Fanning

(the day it was released....I admit, I'm pathetic LOL)

I thought her book was a good read.....no real bombshells, she got most of her info from the same documents released as we did. There were a couple tid bits of info from family (KC's uncle, Gramma Shirley IIRC) that I hadn't seen or prob just forgot about it. I continue to use it as one of my references, I keep it on my desk right next to my PC.

Thanks seeme!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tnmomb on May 28, 2011, 10:33:57 PM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.


R.M. was just going along with Baez agreeing and saying how great she was then all the sudden added the part about except at bedtime....I jumped on here to see you guys rip it apart...then had to put my own little one to bed...and hold him super tight


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 10:39:05 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


Did George's attorney object to Baez's opening statement that graphically described the alleged horrific sexually abused of Casey as a child by her father?

Did George's attorney object to Baez's accusation that George was a participant in the disposal of his granddaughter's body?

Did George's attorney object to the questioning of George in regards to these topics outline in Baez's opening statement?

If not; why not?

Janet


What George's attorney did do:

He made a statement to the press and said that George didn't molest Casey.

He made another statement to the press and said that if the defense team goes down the road of George molesting Casey, then she will be destroyed.

He was on one of the morning shows and stated that the A's will sue Baez.

He made another press statement that was recently reported by Reuters that said KC's psych report says she is "deeply disturbed".

Lippmann has not been silent.



Puzzler

George has also denied the allegations ... to the media ... on the witness stand..

However ... it is my contention that ... unless there is a LEGAL challenge by George and Lee's representatives to prevent the defence from being allowed to persue a strategy of false accusations that distract from the truth ... jury deliberations will be compromised.  The false accusations could be the foundation of reasonable doubt in regards to the guilt of Casey Anthony.

IMO

Janet

.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:42:52 PM
About Kronk....the man made 2 phone calls to LE about what he had seen in the woods.  He had a strong hunch it was Caylee from what he had seen. I can see him telling his son, prior to finding Caylee, that he would find her and get the reward. A lot of people thought Caylee would be in that area. I see this explained very easily, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:45:05 PM
What's this plumbing emergency stuff everymonkey is talking about?



Could it be possible that it was just Cindy that met with Bozo 6 weeks ago? At the time she may have agreed to go along with supporting Casey's story. He wasn't expecting the Cindy to ask to be in the courtroom during trial as next of kin. Which is why the defense objected to the A's motion. When the A's attended, the extent of the lies were heard. Shoving Lee under that bus may have been the tipping point for Cindy. She would not sacrifice her son for her daughter.
that is what I have been thinking scatty!
when she accused her dad! that was one thing! but when she went to far in also charging her brother. Than she hears tony saying on the stand! that it didnt happen!
than cindy get's up there and doesnt say what casey wants to hear!
that just sent her over the edge. it was that easy to become enraged with cindy the 16th and kill caylee out of spite. I think the teddy bear missing also indicates jealousy...

I asked Blink if she thought Teddy could have been the plumbing disaster but it's been in moderation for a long time so ??  ( I guess Blink actually HAS a life compared to  me sitting at home all day !!)
I wonder if C & G realize that their daughter may HAVE wanted to kill them or at least her dad? When HHJP said that the other day, my mouth went open. I bet her doesn't know how many times it's been written in the blogs.  They better hope she gets put in prison.

I am not Blink but she did comment here recently.. sometime in the last couple of weeks..  she thinks it may have been some of Caylee's clothing? 

The last day Caylee was alive, after visiting g-grdpa at the nursing home, Cindy took Caylee for a swim.  She took off Caylee's swim suit and KC put a towel around her.  I wonder if the item of clothing was Caylee's swim suit?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 10:46:12 PM
Interesting comment over here.....     
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-anthonys-body-language-shows-how-she-detests-mother-cindy-and-her-new-courtroom-demeanor/#comments



It wasn’t the defense that told the Anthonys-it was the State when they discovered from the psychiatrists during the depos what Baez was going to do. I believe Cindy’s visit to see Baez was to dissuade him from going that route.

Sherry - May 28, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Reply

I’m with you, Sherry. I’ve had this feeling for a while, but kept it to myself.

Back when the defense wanted to add two additional witnesses to their list; the two psychiatrists. But then the prosecution said they wanted to depose those two psychs. Suddenly, the defense backed off of adding those two to witness list.

I’ve had the feeling that the prosecution then talked to each of the psychs, individually, and not a deposition. I figured that by talking to them, this gave the prosecution a very clear indication of what the defense was going to pull.

I think that the SAO then had a meeting of sorts with Mr. and Mrs. Anthony and let them in on the upcoming accusation/allegations against George, and the big story of how Casey’s supposed upbringing taught her to lie from the age of 8.

IMO, when the Anthony’s were sitting in court during opening statements, they knew what was coming. In detail.

Like you said, Sherry, and I agree…Cindy went to Baez to dissuade him from going that route. I think she wanted to express that to Casey, as well, right before Mother’s Day. But Casey refused the visit. And now we see Casey cry for herself. Again.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:22 am
Reply

Oops…maybe I mis-spoke; I don’t know if the SAO did or did not depose the two drs.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:24 am


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Magnolia on May 28, 2011, 10:46:42 PM
Baez's accusations against George and Lee Anthony didn't give me any cause for
reasonable doubt.   I thought it was a desperate move by a despicable attorney.

Oprah never killed anybody.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 28, 2011, 10:50:11 PM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.

Ditto! I wish the state would have questioned him more about this, but it prob is beyond the scope for their case in chief.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cecilita on May 28, 2011, 10:53:12 PM
Honestly I don't see Casey killing only Caylee without also killing her parents and brother. She knew that Cindy and George at some point will ask for Caylee. I believe that she was planning to kill the hole family and move from Florida. All her searches in the internet were part of her plan to kill the hole family ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 28, 2011, 10:53:32 PM
Interesting comment over here.....     
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-anthonys-body-language-shows-how-she-detests-mother-cindy-and-her-new-courtroom-demeanor/#comments



It wasn’t the defense that told the Anthonys-it was the State when they discovered from the psychiatrists during the depos what Baez was going to do. I believe Cindy’s visit to see Baez was to dissuade him from going that route.

Sherry - May 28, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Reply

I’m with you, Sherry. I’ve had this feeling for a while, but kept it to myself.

Back when the defense wanted to add two additional witnesses to their list; the two psychiatrists. But then the prosecution said they wanted to depose those two psychs. Suddenly, the defense backed off of adding those two to witness list.

I’ve had the feeling that the prosecution then talked to each of the psychs, individually, and not a deposition. I figured that by talking to them, this gave the prosecution a very clear indication of what the defense was going to pull.

I think that the SAO then had a meeting of sorts with Mr. and Mrs. Anthony and let them in on the upcoming accusation/allegations against George, and the big story of how Casey’s supposed upbringing taught her to lie from the age of 8.

IMO, when the Anthony’s were sitting in court during opening statements, they knew what was coming. In detail.

Like you said, Sherry, and I agree…Cindy went to Baez to dissuade him from going that route. I think she wanted to express that to Casey, as well, right before Mother’s Day. But Casey refused the visit. And now we see Casey cry for herself. Again.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:22 am
Reply

Oops…maybe I mis-spoke; I don’t know if the SAO did or did not depose the two drs.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:24 am

Wasn't the state, could have been the defense with the state present, in the process of a deposition with the psychiatrists when everyone had a red flag moment? I believe JP was called immediately and advised both sides to cease and desist from any further questioning. It was then that the defense removed the 2 psychiatrists from their witness list...I could be wrong, but seems to me that happend and it wasn't that long ago, oh about 6-8 wks maybe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:53:50 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.

I have read that before...long time back...I think it was when Crystal's LE interview was released.  It was discussed, I believe, here on SM, too.


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/22884527/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Magnolia on May 28, 2011, 10:54:50 PM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.

Ditto! I wish the state would have questioned him more about this, but it prob is beyond the scope for their case in chief.


The thing about Ricardo Morales' statement that was disturbing was when he
used the phrase "put her to sleep".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 28, 2011, 10:55:59 PM
Baez's accusations against George and Lee Anthony didn't give me any cause for
reasonable doubt.   I thought it was a desperate move by a despicable attorney.

Oprah never killed anybody.

Excellent point!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 10:58:57 PM
Think about Jose Baez's opening statement regarding the horrible accusations against Lee Anthony and then think about Mallory Parker's "gushing" response to questioning in regards to Casey's relationship with Caylee.  Amazing?  Special bond?  Would "good" not have sufficed when the defamation of her fiancee is considered.

There is something wrong with this picture.

IMO

Janet

+++++++

Page 2 of 2
ORLANDO, Fla. May 27, 2011
Testimony in Casey Anthony Murder Trial to Deathly Odor in Her Car


<snipped>

The morning started with an emotional moment when the fiancee of Casey Anthony's brother broke down in tears describing the young mom's relationship with her daughter Caylee.

"It was amazing," said Mallory Parker. "Casey and Caylee had a really, a very special bond."

Anthony, 25, also cried as she listened to her future sister-in-law describe how Anthony cared for Caylee.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-car-trunk-maggots-smell-death/story?id=13702807&page=2




Maybe Mallory is an odd bird and we just didn't know it.

She in one breath tells the jury that she and KC weren't that close; in the next breath, she tells the jury that their relationship was amazing....like she knew anything about it.

This extremely outpouring of emotion by Mallory was strange to me.  I just didn't get it.  If I were a juror, she would be a big question mark to me.

I guess the prosecution put her on the stand to confirm that Lee had actually gone looking for KC in downtown Orlando party places around the 4th of July, 2008.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:02:30 PM
Now this is my dream~~~ I hope Baez got GA so mad the other day that he and Cindy have decided to SPILL. For that they may need legal help cause as we all know, they've been eyeball deep in this stuff,  such as the Laura B fiasco, there was a lot of Cindy in that mess IIRC.
So maybe all the things that they may have been advised by Baez to "help" with or suggestions by him...all the things that they thought they were doing to help casey, maybe they're ready to tell because let's face it, he's going for the throat.



Well I have always wondered how Dom Casey knew where to go look for Caylee's body and to be looking for pavers or something similiar.

He was not working for Baez at that time..he was working for the A's. He is on the phone with atleast one person..and I just don't think the psychic in VA knew where the body was..that was a red herring thrown in there.  There is much more to the backend of that tale..and obviously Jim Hoover, the other detective with him, spilled what he knew to LE..I could be wrong but I have a feeling the A's are up to their eyebrows in that mess.  I am not saying they knew the body was there..it may have been they finally decoded Casey speak ..and it doesn't appear they found it..I do not believe that Cindy would have allowed Caylee's body to just remain there in the swampy area of the woods.  But it is fishy that they were right in the general area.
fishy, fishy. between the family and Baez there is so much deceit. Dom C could NOT have been guided by a psychic or at least the one that the emails were from. I don't understand all that, but common sense says that a lawyer doesn't petition the court to be able to "search" with the accused in private and the same lawyer's PI ( ex PI) is within feet of the victim AND says that same atty, told him not to call 911 if he ever found her........it screams that Baez knew where that child was...which also blows his opening statement and allegations sky high.

If, according to Baez, the pedophile George had the body but somehow the pedophile Roy K acquires the body and his client was in the dark..had no knowledge of circumstances beyond the tragic drowning and her father demanding that she pretend all was well.........that makes BAEZ the owner of the false defense story which cannot possibly be kosher.

like I said before is cindy going to sing ? before this goes any further?  because what you said totaly makes sense and a big no no to do... if thats the case its all over for baez..

This really far out there.
Why the smell in casey's car then.
George used casey's car?

In 2 cases that I know of, the victim's body was found in an area that was previously declared searched. Daniel Van Dam and Chelsea King. Yes the area* was searched, but not every inch ...or the body would have been found! (it was eventually found there) Because, it was there, in the area of where they searched, and for whatever reason was overlooked.

It always makes me mad when they claim foul play that an area was searched (supposedly every inch) and the body was ultimately found. The plant growth will show otherwise IMHO.

Chandra Levy fits in there, too.  Rock Creek Park, where Chandra's remains were found, was searched....just not the specific spot where Chandra was found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:04:55 PM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

tnmomb
- I missed his testimony.  I'll have to go back and listen. 

I heard the testimony the same way tnmomb heard it...I was waiting for the prosecution to ask more about that part...they didn't.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 28, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Interesting comment over here.....     
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-anthonys-body-language-shows-how-she-detests-mother-cindy-and-her-new-courtroom-demeanor/#comments



It wasn’t the defense that told the Anthonys-it was the State when they discovered from the psychiatrists during the depos what Baez was going to do. I believe Cindy’s visit to see Baez was to dissuade him from going that route.

Sherry - May 28, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Reply

I’m with you, Sherry. I’ve had this feeling for a while, but kept it to myself.

Back when the defense wanted to add two additional witnesses to their list; the two psychiatrists. But then the prosecution said they wanted to depose those two psychs. Suddenly, the defense backed off of adding those two to witness list.

I’ve had the feeling that the prosecution then talked to each of the psychs, individually, and not a deposition. I figured that by talking to them, this gave the prosecution a very clear indication of what the defense was going to pull.

I think that the SAO then had a meeting of sorts with Mr. and Mrs. Anthony and let them in on the upcoming accusation/allegations against George, and the big story of how Casey’s supposed upbringing taught her to lie from the age of 8.

IMO, when the Anthony’s were sitting in court during opening statements, they knew what was coming. In detail.

Like you said, Sherry, and I agree…Cindy went to Baez to dissuade him from going that route. I think she wanted to express that to Casey, as well, right before Mother’s Day. But Casey refused the visit. And now we see Casey cry for herself. Again.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:22 am
Reply

Oops…maybe I mis-spoke; I don’t know if the SAO did or did not depose the two drs.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:24 am

Wasn't the state, could have been the defense with the state present, in the process of a deposition with the psychiatrists when everyone had a red flag moment? I believe JP was called immediately and advised both sides to cease and desist from any further questioning. It was then that the defense removed the 2 psychiatrists from their witness list...I could be wrong, but seems to me that happend and it wasn't that long ago, oh about 6-8 wks maybe.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/27560637/detail.html


Anthony Defense Withdraws Mental Health Experts
Defense Says Impartial Jury Cannot Be Found In Orange County

POSTED: Friday, April 15, 2011
UPDATED: 6:05 pm EDT April 15, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- During a hearing Friday, Casey Anthony's defense team withdrew two mental health experts from its witness list.
IMAGES: Casey In Court
The prosecution wanted Judge Belvin Perry to not allow the experts who examined Anthony to testify, or if they did, the state wanted Anthony to testify to prove relevance.
During the hearing Friday afternoon, Anthony's defense removed the psychiatrist and psychologist from its witness list.
::snipping2::

http://www.wesh.com/news/27689355/detail.html

State Adds 2 Psychiatrists To Casey Witness List

Defense Previously Dropped Same Psychiatrists

POSTED: 12:25 pm EDT April 27, 2011
UPDATED: 5:29 pm EDT April 27, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors in the Casey Anthony murder case Wednesday listed two psychiatrists the defense dropped from its witness list.

Anthony's defense team dropped from their witness list a pair of psychiatrists who recently examined her. Their hope was to use the doctors to provide some sort of rebuttal to the state's theory that Anthony acted with a guilty conscience when she appeared to stall and obstruct the search for her daughter, Caylee, by lying to her family and investigators.
::snipping2::











Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:10:09 PM
Motion to have Bozo removed, arrested, charged with slander?
No clue.

I believe that Jose Baez knows beyond a doubt that there is no lawsuit forthcoming from George Anthony for slander ... slander that Casey's father realizes has the ability to cause "reasonable doubt" in death penalty deliberations by the jury panel.

Janet


Did George's attorney object to Baez's opening statement that graphically described the alleged horrific sexually abused of Casey as a child by her father?

Did George's attorney object to Baez's accusation that George was a participant in the disposal of his granddaughter's body?

Did George's attorney object to the questioning of George in regards to these topics outline in Baez's opening statement?

If not; why not?

Janet


What George's attorney did do:

He made a statement to the press and said that George didn't molest Casey.

He made another statement to the press and said that if the defense team goes down the road of George molesting Casey, then she will be destroyed.

He was on one of the morning shows and stated that the A's will sue Baez.

He made another press statement that was recently reported by Reuters that said KC's psych report says she is "deeply disturbed".

Lippmann has not been silent.



Puzzler

George has also denied the allegations ... to the media ... on the witness stand..

However ... it is my contention that ... unless there is a LEGAL challenge by George and Lee's representatives to prevent the defence from being allowed to persue a strategy of false accusations that distract from the truth ... jury deliberations will be compromised.  The false accusations could be the foundation of reasonable doubt in regards to the guilt of Casey Anthony.

IMO

Janet

.

Janet...understand.  I was going to write this earlier, but I don't have any links on it.  The first day and Baez's opening statement, it was said by a commentator (and, I'm sorry, but I can't remember which one) that statements made by attorneys during a trial is "priviledged" to that trial and they can't be sued for those statements.

I, personally, don't know if that's true or not but it sorta made sense to me.

However, I'm sure there are other ways to go after the attorney.  Time will tell.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2011, 11:12:56 PM
FYI - I'm going to leave this thread until Tuesday when we will switch to TRIAL DAY 6.  The BREAK ROOM will of course also stay open. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2011, 11:16:03 PM
Janet, also....the LEGAL challenge you question just might be what we're going to hear about come Tuesday morning.
Since Tony made it clear that KC didn't tell him that George sexually abused him....and we heard that huge balloon burst...I could see Lippmann making a motion for Baez to cease and desist going after George.  There is NO evidence to point to George.  Only "if" KC got on the stand, and at this point she has no credibility - the defense took that from her in the defense's opening statement and the prosecution took that away from her with the testimony from friends and relatives this first week of trial. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 28, 2011, 11:16:35 PM
What I don't understand is if the shrinks found Casey to be "deeply disturbed" why wouldn't the defense want to use their testimony?
Seems like that would be a plus for them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 28, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.

Ditto! I wish the state would have questioned him more about this, but it prob is beyond the scope for their case in chief.

I caught that part of his testimony too... I thought ...here we go, but nothing more was made of it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:21:40 PM
Interesting comment over here.....     
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-anthonys-body-language-shows-how-she-detests-mother-cindy-and-her-new-courtroom-demeanor/#comments



It wasn’t the defense that told the Anthonys-it was the State when they discovered from the psychiatrists during the depos what Baez was going to do. I believe Cindy’s visit to see Baez was to dissuade him from going that route.

Sherry - May 28, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Reply

I’m with you, Sherry. I’ve had this feeling for a while, but kept it to myself.

Back when the defense wanted to add two additional witnesses to their list; the two psychiatrists. But then the prosecution said they wanted to depose those two psychs. Suddenly, the defense backed off of adding those two to witness list.

I’ve had the feeling that the prosecution then talked to each of the psychs, individually, and not a deposition. I figured that by talking to them, this gave the prosecution a very clear indication of what the defense was going to pull.

I think that the SAO then had a meeting of sorts with Mr. and Mrs. Anthony and let them in on the upcoming accusation/allegations against George, and the big story of how Casey’s supposed upbringing taught her to lie from the age of 8.

IMO, when the Anthony’s were sitting in court during opening statements, they knew what was coming. In detail.

Like you said, Sherry, and I agree…Cindy went to Baez to dissuade him from going that route. I think she wanted to express that to Casey, as well, right before Mother’s Day. But Casey refused the visit. And now we see Casey cry for herself. Again.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:22 am
Reply

Oops…maybe I mis-spoke; I don’t know if the SAO did or did not depose the two drs.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:24 am


I believe they met with the State as said above & in March 2010 is when George & Cindy met with the defense over Casey's jail letters & the very next day George wrote that letter to Casey and sent it to the jail


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 11:23:36 PM


This has been stated many times, but I am going to say again...Casey is pouting when jury is present, shaking her head back and forth, adjusting her clothes, grooming her hair and lips and clothes over and over and over, looking at what her tissues have in them, looking at what she picks off her mouth and does not show emotion when her dead daughter is mentioned. She seems to me to be one cold human being unless it is about her.

People have referred to her as beautiful and I just do not see it. Beautiful person label  ::monkeydenied::

Me too Shell..I always thought she bordered on ugly..those horse teeth, that snarl instead of a smile, the simian features in the lower half of her face..I never would have called her pretty or cute or any of that if I passed her on the street.  The low cut tops, the cheap clothes..just not working for me..but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 28, 2011, 11:31:00 PM
"pretty" monster sounds alot more menacing than "ugly monster" imo -I think people are swayed by news shows etc. referring to her as "pretty".  It's alot more "sensational"

I agree I don't think she's pretty at all - whoever Caylee's father is must be gorgeous because that was one cute little girl!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 28, 2011, 11:33:12 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.

I remember reading it, I think in her depo...or a police statement....the reason I remember so  clearly is she said she didn't ask him ask him what kind of accident or how he knew.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: kkate on May 28, 2011, 11:37:03 PM
Have you seen this?

 ::snipping2:: from http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html (http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html)

Crystal Stiltner Ray
I had to stop by before I go out with the girls to leave this link of what a lip reader said Casey was saying today you have to read it and then look back at the clip it looks right on the money http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/ (http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 11:37:14 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.
She did.  Page 16     http://www.docstoc.com/docs/33391142/River-Cruz-Krystal-Holloway-OCSO-Interviews

TY Tupelo..was George just trying to think the best of Casey..as in it had to be an accident..or had Baez already clued them in he was going for an accident defense?

We do know george appeared at the GJ..love to see a copy of that now..but I doubt we will.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2011, 11:38:07 PM
Janet, also....the LEGAL challenge you question just might be what we're going to hear about come Tuesday morning.
Since Tony made it clear that KC didn't tell him that George sexually abused him....and we heard that huge balloon burst...I could see Lippmann making a motion for Baez to cease and desist going after George.  There is NO evidence to point to George.  Only "if" KC got on the stand, and at this point she has no credibility - the defense took that from her in the defense's opening statement and the prosecution took that away from her with the testimony from friends and relatives this first week of trial. 



Thanks Puzzler.  Klaas aready gave me a heads-up.

I hope that there is a motion before the judge.

Good Night Puzzler.  Good Night All.

Janet
8:35 PM PT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 28, 2011, 11:38:12 PM
George was accused by Baez of a felony crime in his opening statements. Could Lippman ask for some standing in court because of that ?
..
I would like someone to file a motion to see George's "suicide" note. Wonder if there is anything in there about George's regrets in life ? They are bringing that River Cruz/ Crystal Holloway to the stand and she is going to say that George told her it was an accident that snowballed out of control a month beforwe the baby was found.

I have never seen anywhere writen that Crystal actually said that..could be another of Baez wild accusations/bluff.

"She told him that, 'I would never ask you that.' In reply, he said it was an accident that snowballed out of control," Benhaida said.
http://www.wftv.com/news/22825765/detail.html

TY Brandi.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 11:46:21 PM
Just to be sure I am reading this right...................

When Cindy said on the stand today that she was still looking for "Zanny" up until 6 weeks ago -- she wasn't being literal, she was figuritively saying to casey: "I stood by you for 3 years unti we found out 6 weeks ago you were going to throw the whole family under the bus!"

that's my take on it  ::rhino::

That was my take too.  Of course, Linda could not elaborate on her statement.

I swear some of you are making me feel like I am in the twilight zone.  I do not trust the A's but this theory that they are going along with allegations of sexual abuse since age 8 and/or alllowing it to be said to give reasonable doubt is just not something I can buy.  What father would allow his rep to be sullied like that? 

I also get that somehow the State knows about this.  The state, IMO, if they had any idea that they were going along with duffense to create reasonable doubt, would not be as nice and calm as they are being to George and Cindy.  They would be livid and would be questioning them much more forcefully.

Then, Lippmann is now involved.  He is a lawyer, trusted to uphold the law and truth, and he is supposedly part of this. 

Then we have the Beotches reactions to both George and her mother.  You cannot fake that.  Unless she is the best actress in the world, think Meryl Streep, these reactions are real in response to thinking they would cow tow to her and admit and agree to save her hide, and they are not. She is livid. 

Mallory IMO, was not asked if KC was this glowing mother.  She was asked to describe their relationship.  what she saw was amazing.  She saw a child who loved her mother and a mother who pretended to love her child, IMO.  She was on for all of what 5 minutes.  What she saw, the few times she was in their presence, was amazing.  I don't get how she ruined the state's case.  All these friends saw a good mother.  What murdering mother shows other than being a good mother before she kills her children? 

I am a jaded person and do not believe a lot of things.  I come from Brooklyn, NY, and do not buy BS at all, and that is why this whole story from the get go was like WTH? 

Anyway, this is going to be a long trial.  I do not know if I will be able to handle all the twists and turns. 

I am in the twilight zone.  I was laughing during Cindy's testimony at all the lies.  One after another, thinking OMG, she lied about everything.  Just the overall OMG, the lies, and Cindy bought all of them, is disgusting. 

We shall see.  If everybody is in cahoots to save her arse, the state included, I would be extremely disappointed in them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 28, 2011, 11:52:30 PM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.

I read somewhere, but do not know where, that this is possibly because of their application for trademark?  Would that need a motion by lippman on this case?  I don't know. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 28, 2011, 11:57:15 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/27/us-crime-anthony-idUSTRE74Q03H20110527

Witnesses smelled death odor from Casey Anthony's car

 ::snipping2::



In an email response to questions from Reuters, George and Cindy Anthony's attorney said he didn't know what Casey had in mind concerning her parents supposedly leaving their home.

"No they were not planning on moving out, and I have no idea about Casey's plans other than her psychological report demonstrates she is deeply disturbed," Mark Lippman said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 28, 2011, 11:57:39 PM
Good Evening !

I am hoping that someone here could PLEASE explain to me why is all this touching, etc to Casey by the defense allowed continuously ??
Didn't Baez get in some kind of trouble over this before ?

To me this is so very disgusting and extremely inappropiate!!!!

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 28, 2011, 11:59:25 PM


This has been stated many times, but I am going to say again...Casey is pouting when jury is present, shaking her head back and forth, adjusting her clothes, grooming her hair and lips and clothes over and over and over, looking at what her tissues have in them, looking at what she picks off her mouth and does not show emotion when her dead daughter is mentioned. She seems to me to be one cold human being unless it is about her.

People have referred to her as beautiful and I just do not see it. Beautiful person label  ::monkeydenied::

Me too Shell..I always thought she bordered on ugly..those horse teeth, that snarl instead of a smile, the simian features in the lower half of her face..I never would have called her pretty or cute or any of that if I passed her on the street.  The low cut tops, the cheap clothes..just not working for me..but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 
someone here posted a pic of casey as a little girl... it was a christmas pic of casey with one of those red santa hats... she must have been about 6 or 7
she looked nothing like  caylee. caylee was beautiful... casey looked strange not a pretty little girl .. something weird looking about her in that pic..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 28, 2011, 11:59:52 PM
I think the jury has something to really think about the next two days.  Can you imagine sitting there learning that a young mother is out partying, drinking, sleeping around for 31 days while her mom is calling and being told that she's working and Caylee is with a nanny and really she was dead. 

I want one reporter to just sit and watch the jury.  See what they react to.  Who do they watch?  How do they respond to the State attys?  The defense attys?  We can watch the live feeds and see the witnesses and KC ourselves.  Thy folks that really matter are the ones that we can't see.  I want to know how they are reacting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 12:00:10 AM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.

I read somewhere, but do not know where, that this is possibly because of their application for trademark?  Would that need a motion by lippman on this case?  I don't know. 

I do not believe so


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:00:32 AM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...

For me, I was holding my breath waiting for Cindy to start her protection phase.  The single most important thing I heard from her today was that she was looking for a nanny UP UNTIL 6 WEEKS AGO, at which time she stopped looking for any nanny cause she realized there was no nanny.  For me, that told me she stopped believing her daughter after it was learned she was going to accuse George and Lee of disgusting things and half the state of Florida with moving Caylee's body.  She also learned of the drowning theory then in detail, and realized that KC knew while everybody was looking for Caylee that Caylee was dead and let everybody continue looking for her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 12:02:02 AM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.

I read somewhere, but do not know where, that this is possibly because of their application for trademark?  Would that need a motion by lippman on this case?  I don't know. 

could it posibly have anything to do! with the 68,000 dollar lean that has been put on casey .. considering that baez handled her money?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:02:28 AM
What I don't understand is if the shrinks found Casey to be "deeply disturbed" why wouldn't the defense want to use their testimony?
Seems like that would be a plus for them.

Because that would open the state to depo them and read their medical records. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:03:15 AM
What I don't understand is if the shrinks found Casey to be "deeply disturbed" why wouldn't the defense want to use their testimony?
Seems like that would be a plus for them.

And also, the state would put up their own psych experts that would be court ordered to meet with KC, and they don't want anybody talking to KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:04:25 AM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.

I read somewhere, but do not know where, that this is possibly because of their application for trademark?  Would that need a motion by lippman on this case?  I don't know. 

could it posibly have anything to do! with the 68,000 dollar lean that has been put on casey .. considering that baez handled her money?

That's a good idea Loca.  Maybe it is about that.  We all have to wait, that sure does suck, lOL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 29, 2011, 12:04:26 AM
'Deeply disturbed' might not mean mentally ill but rather socially maladjusted.  Big difference there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 12:05:43 AM
Baez's accusations against George and Lee Anthony didn't give me any cause for
reasonable doubt.   I thought it was a desperate move by a despicable attorney.

Oprah never killed anybody.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 29, 2011, 12:06:43 AM
Who thinks that Lee will get on the stand and help the defense?  I think Lee is KC's last hope.  Even if he doesn't admit to attempting to abuse her, he could still say he knew something was going on with Dad.  I don't think that he will, but I'm wondering what you guys think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 29, 2011, 12:10:10 AM
I wish we had a polling option.  I'd like to know who thinks the plumbing emergency was
a. Caylee's  swim suit

b. Caylee's teddy bear


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tnmomb on May 29, 2011, 12:11:09 AM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

That was it!!! When he said "put her to sleep" It still really bothers me and hasn't left my mind even with all the other drama going on. I have to believe if the state thinks it's important they will re-call him. I can't fathom them missing it and not reacting....Glad I wasn't alone in that comment.

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.

Ditto! I wish the state would have questioned him more about this, but it prob is beyond the scope for their case in chief.


The thing about Ricardo Morales' statement that was disturbing was when he
used the phrase "put her to sleep".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 12:13:19 AM
I wish we had a polling option.  I'd like to know who thinks the plumbing emergency was
a. Caylee's  swim suit

b. Caylee's teddy bear

maybe add a :  C. pull up ?

I would think the teddy bear would be way to big to try to flush in a toilet to cause major plumbing problems


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tnmomb on May 29, 2011, 12:15:30 AM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

That was it!!! When he said "put her to sleep" It still really bothers me and hasn't left my mind even with all the other drama going on. I have to believe if the state thinks it's important they will re-call him. I can't fathom them missing it and not reacting....Glad I wasn't alone in that comment.

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.

Ditto! I wish the state would have questioned him more about this, but it prob is beyond the scope for their case in chief.


The thing about Ricardo Morales' statement that was disturbing was when he
used the phrase "put her to sleep".

Sorry about the previous post. Please delete as I've repeated it here.


That was it!!! When he said "put her to sleep" It still really bothers me and hasn't left my mind even with all the other drama going on. I have to believe if the state thinks it's important they will re-call him. I can't fathom them missing it and not reacting....Glad I wasn't alone in that comment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:16:07 AM
Who thinks that Lee will get on the stand and help the defense?  I think Lee is KC's last hope.  Even if he doesn't admit to attempting to abuse her, he could still say he knew something was going on with Dad.  I don't think that he will, but I'm wondering what you guys think.

I am worried about Lee, but if I remember from his Depos, he told the truth, he didn't protect KC too much, but then the whole CMA thing at the funeral and mouthing I love you to ICA was disgusting, but I guess he does still love his sister, even if she accuses him of disgusting things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:17:03 AM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

That was it!!! When he said "put her to sleep" It still really bothers me and hasn't left my mind even with all the other drama going on. I have to believe if the state thinks it's important they will re-call him. I can't fathom them missing it and not reacting....Glad I wasn't alone in that comment.

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.

Ditto! I wish the state would have questioned him more about this, but it prob is beyond the scope for their case in chief.


The thing about Ricardo Morales' statement that was disturbing was when he
used the phrase "put her to sleep".

Sorry about the previous post. Please delete as I've repeated it here.


That was it!!! When he said "put her to sleep" It still really bothers me and hasn't left my mind even with all the other drama going on. I have to believe if the state thinks it's important they will re-call him. I can't fathom them missing it and not reacting....Glad I wasn't alone in that comment.


Bozo objected when he said that, so state could not go on and delve further into that. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 29, 2011, 12:17:08 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29

Casey Anthony: Does Cindy Anthony help or hurt state?

Quote
News 13 offered footage of the shaken Cindy Anthony leaving the court after testifying. George Anthony had his arm around his wife as she shook her head. “He’s holding on to her quite tightly,” Fell said.

News 13 also shared footage of Casey Anthony crying when she saw her parents embrace before walking out of the courtroom. “She was very upset,” Fell said of Casey. “Not really sure exactly what started it.” 







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:19:21 AM
I wish we had a polling option.  I'd like to know who thinks the plumbing emergency was
a. Caylee's  swim suit

b. Caylee's teddy bear

maybe add a :  C. pull up ?

I would think the teddy bear would be way to big to try to flush in a toilet to cause major plumbing problems

I guess I am missing why or how this plumbing emeregency could be related to Caylee.  Pipes burst all the time, and that is what I think happened.  This happened after she was in jail, didn't it? 

Did Cindy ever find the Teddy Bear that gave her comfort?  Was that the teddy bear that Cindy brought to court on Monday? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tnmomb on May 29, 2011, 12:23:56 AM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

That was it!!! When he said "put her to sleep" It still really bothers me and hasn't left my mind even with all the other drama going on. I have to believe if the state thinks it's important they will re-call him. I can't fathom them missing it and not reacting....Glad I wasn't alone in that comment.

I agree, his testimony regarding Casey having to discipline Caylee over bed time is very disturbing.

Ditto! I wish the state would have questioned him more about this, but it prob is beyond the scope for their case in chief.


The thing about Ricardo Morales' statement that was disturbing was when he
used the phrase "put her to sleep".

That was it!!! When he said "put her to sleep" It still really bothers me and hasn't left my mind even with all the other drama going on. I have to believe if the state thinks it's important they will re-call him. I can't fathom them missing it and not reacting....Glad I wasn't alone in that comment.


Bozo objected when he said that, so state could not go on and delve further into that. 

I didn't hear that, guess it was off mic. That at least explains why they didn't pursue it. Can they somehow later??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 12:27:06 AM
I wish we had a polling option.  I'd like to know who thinks the plumbing emergency was
a. Caylee's  swim suit

b. Caylee's teddy bear

maybe add a :  C. pull up ?

I would think the teddy bear would be way to big to try to flush in a toilet to cause major plumbing problems

I guess I am missing why or how this plumbing emeregency could be related to Caylee.  Pipes burst all the time, and that is what I think happened.  This happened after she was in jail, didn't it? 

Did Cindy ever find the Teddy Bear that gave her comfort?  Was that the teddy bear that Cindy brought to court on Monday? 

I am still confused with the plumbing emergency thing too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 29, 2011, 12:28:55 AM
Interesting comment over here.....     
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-anthonys-body-language-shows-how-she-detests-mother-cindy-and-her-new-courtroom-demeanor/#comments



It wasn’t the defense that told the Anthonys-it was the State when they discovered from the psychiatrists during the depos what Baez was going to do. I believe Cindy’s visit to see Baez was to dissuade him from going that route.

Sherry - May 28, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Reply

I’m with you, Sherry. I’ve had this feeling for a while, but kept it to myself.

Back when the defense wanted to add two additional witnesses to their list; the two psychiatrists. But then the prosecution said they wanted to depose those two psychs. Suddenly, the defense backed off of adding those two to witness list.

I’ve had the feeling that the prosecution then talked to each of the psychs, individually, and not a deposition. I figured that by talking to them, this gave the prosecution a very clear indication of what the defense was going to pull.

I think that the SAO then had a meeting of sorts with Mr. and Mrs. Anthony and let them in on the upcoming accusation/allegations against George, and the big story of how Casey’s supposed upbringing taught her to lie from the age of 8.

IMO, when the Anthony’s were sitting in court during opening statements, they knew what was coming. In detail.

Like you said, Sherry, and I agree…Cindy went to Baez to dissuade him from going that route. I think she wanted to express that to Casey, as well, right before Mother’s Day. But Casey refused the visit. And now we see Casey cry for herself. Again.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:22 am
Reply

Oops…maybe I mis-spoke; I don’t know if the SAO did or did not depose the two drs.

Kitt - May 29, 2011 at 12:24 am


NANCY GRACE

Casey Anthony Defense Claims Accidental Death

Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

 ::snipping2::

GRACE: Let`s go to his attorney, Mark Lippman. Lippman has an excellent reputation in his jurisdiction and beyond. He is the attorney for the Anthony family.

What about it, mark? I mean, you said that they expected this. They felt that they were going to be the scapegoats. But did they really believe tot mom was going to go this far and claim George Anthony sexually molested her? Sending her off to grade school after forcing her to perform oral sex as a child? That`s beyond anything they could have expected. And here they are going to the jail, trying to leave her money the weekend before trial starts?

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

At this point, even that`s suspect.
Don`t know from what Jose was saying today if we can believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

Certainly, everything he said about George was a complete and utter lie, and I am, for one, very proud of my client for being able to sit there as he did and just be able to take what was said about him without showing the reaction that I felt myself on his behalf.

So, I just wanted to make sure he understood that he did what he needed to do today and what was said by the defense was just unfathomable.

GRACE: But, Mark, my question is I know that they knew this was coming, but they still are standing by tot mom, even though she`s making these horrific claims against them.

LIPPMAN: Yes, the dichotomy here of losing your daughter and losing your granddaughter. And no matter what, a parent is parent. And they will -- they want the defense to do their job to the best of their ability just as they want the state to do their job. Ultimately, what they`re looking for is the truth and if -- whatever way it goes is the way they`re going to follow it.

 ::snipping2::

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 12:29:13 AM
Good Evening !

I am hoping that someone here could PLEASE explain to me why is all this touching, etc to Casey by the defense allowed continuously ??
Didn't Baez get in some kind of trouble over this before ?

To me this is so very disgusting and extremely inappropiate!!!!

TIA

Hi espresso lover

Down the road ... when Casey requests a new trial in an attempt to avoid the death penalty or LWP ... maybe these hugging sessions will come back to haunt Jose Baez.

Talk about pay back.

Janet

++++

Jose Baez Repeatedly Told To Stop Touching Casey During Jail Visits
Friday, October 31, 2008 – updated: 10:14 am EDT October 31, 2008


http://www.wftv.com/news/17854568/detail.html


Bar To Investigate Baez For Hugging Casey In Jail
Friday, October 31, 2008 – updated: 5:23 pm EDT October 31, 2008


http://www.wftv.com/news/17859993/detail.html#-


Florida Bar: No investigation into hugging incidents 
Last Edited: Friday, 31 Oct 2008, 9:49 PM EDT 
Created: Friday, 31 Oct 2008, 7:39 AM EDT


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Jose Baez will face no disciplinary action from the Florida Bar for his jailhouse incident with client Casey Anthony .

According to published reports, Baez was under investigation from the Bar. But spokesperson Susannah Lyle said that hugs are permitted by their rules between attorney and client as long as the client does not object.

According to Lyle, a Bar Association rule must be broken in order for there to be an investigation. At this point there is no Florida Bar investigation into the incidents.

Jail officials said Casey Anthony and her defense attorney, Jose Baez, were seen hugging on two separate occasions and were told both times that it was a violation of jail policy.

Though there is no surveillance video that would show the two hugging, jail officials confirm seeing the two touch on two different times.

The jail released the following statement:

Mr. Baez was observed hugging his client on two occasions. He was advised that this is a violation of jail policy. After the second incident, he was again advised of the policy and said he would remember in future visits not to engage in this behavior. Orange County Corrections considers this a closed matter."

No officers had to go into the room to separate the two, and the jail says the matter has been closed by the Corrections Department

Casey remains behind bars at the Orange County Jail without bond. She is scheduled for a pretrial on a first-degree murder charge in December.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7762172&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 29, 2011, 12:29:46 AM
Have you seen this?

 ::snipping2:: from http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html (http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html)

Crystal Stiltner Ray
I had to stop by before I go out with the girls to leave this link of what a lip reader said Casey was saying today you have to read it and then look back at the clip it looks right on the money http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/ (http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/)
WOW! I think this one is pretty close!  Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 12:30:16 AM
 today is only day 5 of trial
kc managed to keep it together with the jury present, but after seeing george give cindy a hug after testifying
experiencing B-E-T-R-A-Y-A-L !!
 she will have a few more  of these episodes right there with the jury to see.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 12:34:35 AM
Have you seen this?

 ::snipping2:: from http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html (http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html)

Crystal Stiltner Ray
I had to stop by before I go out with the girls to leave this link of what a lip reader said Casey was saying today you have to read it and then look back at the clip it looks right on the money http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/ (http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/)
WOW! I think this one is pretty close!  Thanks

WOW  and double wow


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 12:37:47 AM
I wish we had a polling option.  I'd like to know who thinks the plumbing emergency was
a. Caylee's  swim suit

b. Caylee's teddy bear

Poll at the top of the thread  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 29, 2011, 12:39:37 AM
Have you seen this?

 ::snipping2:: from http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html (http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html)

Crystal Stiltner Ray
I had to stop by before I go out with the girls to leave this link of what a lip reader said Casey was saying today you have to read it and then look back at the clip it looks right on the money http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/ (http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/)
WOW! I think this one is pretty close!  Thanks

WOW  and double wow
did you watch the video with the words? I had two screens open, and except for one part where I thought a word was missing, it looks very much like what she said.  She didn't catch everything, but this is the closest we've seen.  Great Job!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2011, 12:39:51 AM
Finally catching up a bit...so, there is not going to be court on Monday even though the jury requested to have it? 

I think that justice is on it's way with Cindy doing the right thing..Lee has distanced himself from Casey for quite some time..he isn't going to lie for Casey...no way..
Justice sweet baby Caylee is on it's way.
I hope that Cindy does read here and see that "bloggers" are now supporting her cause she is finally seeing what we have known all along. That Casey did this to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 12:41:18 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-does-cindy-anthony-help-or-hurt-state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29

Casey Anthony: Does Cindy Anthony help or hurt state?

Quote
News 13 offered footage of the shaken Cindy Anthony leaving the court after testifying. George Anthony had his arm around his wife as she shook her head. “He’s holding on to her quite tightly,” Fell said.

News 13 also shared footage of Casey Anthony crying when she saw her parents embrace before walking out of the courtroom. “She was very upset,” Fell said of Casey. “Not really sure exactly what started it.” 






do you have a link for that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 12:41:44 AM
Finally catching up a bit...so, there is not going to be court on Monday even though the jury requested to have it? 

I think that justice is on it's way with Cindy doing the right thing..Lee has distanced himself from Casey for quite some time..he isn't going to lie for Casey...no way..
Justice sweet baby Caylee is on it's way.
I hope that Cindy does read here and see that "bloggers" are now supporting her cause she is finally seeing what we have known all along. That Casey did this to Caylee.
no court monday..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 12:43:45 AM
Good Evening !

I am hoping that someone here could PLEASE explain to me why is all this touching, etc to Casey by the defense allowed continuously ??
Didn't Baez get in some kind of trouble over this before ?

To me this is so very disgusting and extremely inappropiate!!!!

TIA

Hi espresso lover

Down the road ... when Casey requests a new trial in an attempt to avoid the death penalty or LWP ... maybe these hugging sessions will come back to haunt Jose Baez.

Talk about pay back.

Janet

++++

Jose Baez Repeatedly Told To Stop Touching Casey During Jail Visits
Friday, October 31, 2008 – updated: 10:14 am EDT October 31, 2008


http://www.wftv.com/news/17854568/detail.html


Thank you ! Janet...I don't know how you do it but it is greatly appreciated.

This raised a question to me and hope I can word this right...

With the defense "claiming" sexual abuse by both George and Lee for years . I understand promiscuous behavior in sex abuse victims however, when old wounds are reopen they tend to tense up by being touched etc...I guess what I am trying to say or ask is can all this touching be used against her claim of repeated sex abuse ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 29, 2011, 12:55:38 AM
I have looked through the posts best I could and didn't find a comment on this so sorry if you already discussed this. I am bothered by something Ricardo Morales about how great Casey was to Caylee, never disciplining her or yell etc. "until bed time" then it was a different story. He kind of blew it off to "that's the way kids are" But wasn't one of LE's theory's that Casey gave Caylee chloroform to knock her out so she would sleep? I felt like my stomach got punched when he said this and was so sure the state would bring it out more. Thoughts?

tnmomb
- I missed his testimony.  I'll have to go back and listen. 

I heard the testimony the same way tnmomb heard it...I was waiting for the prosecution to ask more about that part...they didn't.


The bed time comment stuck out to me as well. Maybe they will bring that back in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 12:57:03 AM
My brain is spinning....in OS by defense...they claimed Lee tried to follow in his father's footstep in sexually abusing Casey yet no where is it ever stated or implied he actually had sex with her just touching of her breasts and pulling up her sports bra....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 12:57:11 AM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.

JMO, but I believe that is exactly what it's about.  Lippman was on the Today Show this week saying he was ready and willing to file charges on behalf of his clients if he felt that it was necessary.  I think it may have become necessary....Again, JMO.

Did he say "charges?"  It may be a cease & desist order against bozo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 01:09:45 AM
My brain is spinning....in OS by defense...they claimed Lee tried to follow in his father's footstep in sexually abusing Casey yet no where is it ever stated or implied he actually had sex with her just touching of her breasts and pulling up her sports bra....

Which most likely is all lies too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
My brain is spinning....in OS by defense...they claimed Lee tried to follow in his father's footstep in sexually abusing Casey yet no where is it ever stated or implied he actually had sex with her just touching of her breasts and pulling up her sports bra....

Which most likely is all lies too.

September 8, 2008 - she wasn't too worried about Lee then..

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5306/5770092961_ee61fe56b4_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 01:22:14 AM
My brain is spinning....in OS by defense...they claimed Lee tried to follow in his father's footstep in sexually abusing Casey yet no where is it ever stated or implied he actually had sex with her just touching of her breasts and pulling up her sports bra....

Which most likely is all lies too.

September 8, 2008 - she wasn't too worried about Lee then..

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5306/5770092961_ee61fe56b4_o.jpg)

Yup, and those are the same hands that would have pushed up her sports bra, wouldn't they be?  She is so full of chit, I can smell it from here.


Also, Bozo keeps saying she was in a state of denial that was so outrageous and that is why she went about partying so happily, why are things pissing her off now in court?  Why is she reacting now in court?  Did this state of denial go away?  Are we supposed to believe her now?  Why is she acting she is so glim and upset and sad in front of the jurors, but not in front of her lawyers.  GMAB.  Not in a million years.  Can somebody so deep in denial turn off emotions like she is a paid actress? 

Wonder what their meeting was all about today after court?  Oh, to be a fly on the wall. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 01:23:09 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/964182746001/casey-anthonys-mom-takes-stand-in-trial

lol theres one single protester in the video background holding a neon green sign ... saying casey is guilty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ChiChi on May 29, 2011, 01:23:17 AM
Am I the only one that "dreams" about this trial?

nope


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 01:29:37 AM
Am I the only one that "dreams" about this trial?

nope

Nope, I dream almost every time I sleep lately about this case. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 01:29:50 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/964182746001/casey-anthonys-mom-takes-stand-in-trial

lol theres one single protester in the video background holding a neon green sign ... saying casey is guilty.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/5770666746_5b1118cffd_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 01:30:55 AM
I dont think she will take a plea yet! she is realy pissed right now and is thinking revenge! but turbo I agree there is something going on.. they went back there... all three of them.. thats her holding cell area isnt it?
It could also be about how they're going to handle the Lippman thing coming up on Tuesday.

I hope the Lippman thing is the first stage of firing back at Casey's allegations of her father's sexual abuse & the defense putting it forward in opening statement based on Tony L's testimony (proffer).  Tony testified that Casey did not lodge any allegation of sexual molestation by her father.  I'm not sure what else it could be.

JMO, but I believe that is exactly what it's about.  Lippman was on the Today Show this week saying he was ready and willing to file charges on behalf of his clients if he felt that it was necessary.  I think it may have become necessary....Again, JMO.

Did he say "charges?"  It may be a cease & desist order against bozo.
turbo
can baez get disbarred  over this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 01:30:57 AM
My brain is spinning....in OS by defense...they claimed Lee tried to follow in his father's footstep in sexually abusing Casey yet no where is it ever stated or implied he actually had sex with her just touching of her breasts and pulling up her sports bra....

Which most likely is all lies too.

Based on what we have seen with her slew of sex partners etc I have always wondered if it was Casey who tried to do something with Lee ??
I knew a girl who was alot like Casey with all the lies and when ever she was confronted with the cold hard factual TRUTH she went nutty and claimed all these different guys tried to either molest or rape her which of course was NOT true . This case has tormented me in many ways due to some of the comparisons with Casey's actions....

At the beginning I did wonder if at some time in her life if she may have been molested but not by Lee or George. I would still like to know what happened with Cindy's brother's kid ??? I may be off base on that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 01:32:22 AM
Am I the only one that "dreams" about this trial?

nope

Nope, I dream almost every time I sleep lately about this case. 
I go to bed with this trial ... I have obcessed since day 1 caylee missing than found.. than this..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 01:34:01 AM
Something else....if Lee supposedly only touched her Breasts, how in the bleep could she be preggy by him to warrant a DNA test for paternity...omg !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 01:34:07 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/964182746001/casey-anthonys-mom-takes-stand-in-trial

lol theres one single protester in the video background holding a neon green sign ... saying casey is guilty.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/5770666746_5b1118cffd_b.jpg)
my bad it didnt say casey is guilty...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 01:36:59 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/964182746001/casey-anthonys-mom-takes-stand-in-trial

lol theres one single protester in the video background holding a neon green sign ... saying casey is guilty.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/5770666746_5b1118cffd_b.jpg)
my bad it didnt say casey is guilty...

The million $ question is "Is there anthing she is NOT guilty of "??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 01:37:33 AM
Something else....if Lee supposedly only touched her Breasts, how in the bleep could she be preggy by him to warrant a DNA test for paternity...omg !!

could they have "said" it was for paternity but in actuality testing for evidence in the murder?  Did it happen before or after they found her little body?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 29, 2011, 01:39:21 AM
Valley Family of Casey Anthony Says Defense 'Despicable'  (video)

http://www.wkbn.com/mostpopular/story/Valley-Family-of-Casey-Anthony-Says-Defense/qZN8_xgNcE-in7Kj7BPiGw.cspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 01:39:43 AM
Something else....if Lee supposedly only touched her Breasts, how in the bleep could she be preggy by him to warrant a DNA test for paternity...omg !!

could they have "said" it was for paternity but in actuality testing for evidence in the murder?  Did it happen before or after they found her little body?

They did a paternity test on both Lee and George but can't recall if it was before or after they found her body?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 01:41:36 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/964182746001/casey-anthonys-mom-takes-stand-in-trial

lol theres one single protester in the video background holding a neon green sign ... saying casey is guilty.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/5770666746_5b1118cffd_b.jpg)

That is too funny. He is all by himself.  I wish some would join him. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 01:42:26 AM
If Casey wasn't HATED before she sure is more than HATED now!!

I think every person she has destroyed should do something , not sure she can be sued in anyway ??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 01:45:01 AM
Valley Family of Casey Anthony Says Defense 'Despicable'  (video)

http://www.wkbn.com/mostpopular/story/Valley-Family-of-Casey-Anthony-Says-Defense/qZN8_xgNcE-in7Kj7BPiGw.cspx


thanks for posting this! 

(I hate to say this but George's sister needs to stay out of the tanning beds!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 01:45:44 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 01:46:13 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/964182746001/casey-anthonys-mom-takes-stand-in-trial

lol theres one single protester in the video background holding a neon green sign ... saying casey is guilty.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/5770666746_5b1118cffd_b.jpg)

That is too funny. He is all by himself.  I wish some would join him. 

he's not alone - he has his cig & his lovely locks!  (good for him though - I wish I could stand beside him!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 01:46:29 AM
Valley Family of Casey Anthony Says Defense 'Despicable'  (video)

http://www.wkbn.com/mostpopular/story/Valley-Family-of-Casey-Anthony-Says-Defense/qZN8_xgNcE-in7Kj7BPiGw.cspx

thank you northern rose.. interesting to see georges sister.. she is being supportive to her brother and cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 01:47:33 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/964182746001/casey-anthonys-mom-takes-stand-in-trial

lol theres one single protester in the video background holding a neon green sign ... saying casey is guilty.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/5770666746_5b1118cffd_b.jpg)

That is too funny. He is all by himself.  I wish some would join him. 

he's not alone - he has his cig & his lovely locks!  (good for him though - I wish I could stand beside him!)
me too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 01:48:19 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.
omg turbo thanks
this makes my day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 01:48:43 AM
today is only day 5 of trial
kc managed to keep it together with the jury present, but after seeing george give cindy a hug after testifying
experiencing B-E-T-R-A-Y-A-L !!
 she will have a few more  of these episodes right there with the jury to see.




I agree!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 01:52:55 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.

I hope they do something.  I know this is very early in this case, but I cannot beleive that a duffense team can just say anything w/o backing it up, and they have not submitted any evidence pretrially to say she was molested.  There were no doctors, no testimony by her sayign she was molested, etc.  I mean, they could have just said monkeys killed Caylee, that is how silly it is to me.  Unless she tesitfies, or they have a hidden witness somewhere that is going to come out and say she was molested (which I believe woudl be trial by ambush and would be objected and the witness denied)  I don't know what they are going to do.  He will be just like Scott Peterson's lawyer with the defense that never materialized. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 29, 2011, 01:54:46 AM
@20:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28058702/index.html

Cindy answers question about if she has looked for Zanny and for how long.  She is hesitant to answer she looked for her up until 6 weeks ago  then her body starts to shake.  You can really see the shaking in her hair.  I think she has slowly started to see how she was being played and agree that this was a very clear and public message that ICA was on her own with all her lies now.

Sorry I am so far behind.  Just watching the last of the videos now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 01:57:26 AM
@20:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28058702/index.html

Cindy answers question about if she has looked for Zanny and for how long.  She is hesitant to answer she looked for her up until 6 weeks ago  then her body starts to shake.  You can really see the shaking in her hair.  I think she has slowly started to see how she was being played and agree that this was a very clear and public message that ICA was on her own with all her lies now.

Sorry I am so far behind.  Just watching the last of the videos now.

I went back & watched & yeah you're right.  I wonder if she's shaking or nervously "twitching".  When I'm nervous or angry I kind of "jiggle" for lack of a better word, my right leg.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 01:57:35 AM
I know that judge perry has dealt with many attorney but I am
sure he has never met one .. that he had to walk through everything step by step..like baez... he continues to do the opposite of what is required of him. no respect for authority/law and the judge.
a few times today.. during side bar he was not looking at the judge and the others.. he was looking around looking up and rolling his eyes in defiance very arrogantly..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 01:58:20 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.
omg turbo thanks
this makes my day.

I don't know that is what it is, but it crossed my mind that an attorney can't stand up in court and tell blatant lies regardless of his motive. I am not sure what the consequences would be as we all know there are serious laws against slander, but there also may be legal consequences if he knowing the truth pursued a lie. We know there can be legal sanctions by the bar, but the way the Anthony attorney's use of words has me really curious as to what he has planned for bozo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 29, 2011, 02:01:49 AM
Have you seen this?

 ::snipping2:: from http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html (http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html)

Crystal Stiltner Ray
I had to stop by before I go out with the girls to leave this link of what a lip reader said Casey was saying today you have to read it and then look back at the clip it looks right on the money http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/ (http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/)

THANK YOU!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Now I can rest! Lol!!!

This has triggered an interest in learning how to lip read for me.

Right on the money indeed!! WOW!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 02:03:11 AM
I know that judge perry has dealt with many attorney but I am
sure he has never met one .. that he had to walk through everything step by step..like baez... he continues to do the opposite of what is required of him. no respect for authority/law and the judge.
a few times today.. during side bar he was not looking at the judge and the others.. he was looking around looking up and rolling his eyes in defiance very arrogantly..



Yep, definitely could be a real life "My Cousin Vinny".  Even if he's an idiot - he's had plenty enough time to research and prepare.  He was too busy soaking in the celebrity of it all.  I feel like John Hammond on Jurasic Park "I REALLY hate that man"!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 29, 2011, 02:03:32 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.

Oh wouldn't that be wonderful! Just imagine, the A's after Baez!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 29, 2011, 02:09:38 AM
@20:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28058702/index.html

Cindy answers question about if she has looked for Zanny and for how long.  She is hesitant to answer she looked for her up until 6 weeks ago  then her body starts to shake.  You can really see the shaking in her hair.  I think she has slowly started to see how she was being played and agree that this was a very clear and public message that ICA was on her own with all her lies now.

Sorry I am so far behind.  Just watching the last of the videos now.

I never noticed that before. Thanks Northern Rose!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 02:16:14 AM
So, we are to believe, that not one "source" has divulged to the media what this motion is about yet?  That is weird, or is the media enjoying the rest of their long weekend?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 02:16:51 AM
Does anyone know why there are 3 day 5 murder trial threads ???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 29, 2011, 02:37:29 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: NickandNora on May 29, 2011, 02:45:07 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

Looks like it to me too. Can someone ask that blogger who asked the lip reader before if she/he can get help again?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 04:01:01 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 04:08:32 AM
Have you seen this?

 ::snipping2:: from http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html (http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html)

Crystal Stiltner Ray
I had to stop by before I go out with the girls to leave this link of what a lip reader said Casey was saying today you have to read it and then look back at the clip it looks right on the money http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/ (http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/)
WOW! I think this one is pretty close!  Thanks


Thank you 4 the link.

Omg, earth to mars...
Casey did live at home rent free.
Parents gave casey a car to drive.
Cindy wanted to visit casey at jail many times, casey refused.
The list goes on and on.
Casey jealous of anyone that gives attention to Caylee, George,for that matter any person.  Casey wants ALL the attention and control period.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/jordynalicious/mememe.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: dani on May 29, 2011, 04:09:58 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 04:26:24 AM
What I don't understand is if the shrinks found Casey to be "deeply disturbed" why wouldn't the defense want to use their testimony?
Seems like that would be a plus for them.

The defense did want to use them.  The way I understand it is that the defense wanted two doctors added to the witness list - waaayyy after the witness was finished.  Judge Perry wasn't happy.  Ashton said if we can meet with the right away and see their report on their results...okay.  While the State was questioning the two Doctors, one of them was released "during" the interview...he either walked out or was released by Baez.  Somehow (it's confusing to me) the attorneys (I believe Baez) ended up calling the Judge on the weekend.  The result was that once Ashton said if the defense is going to call 2 psych doctors, then the State will have their own experts evaluate Ms. Anthony.....Baez withdrew both psych doctors from the list.

Sounds to me like the threat of State experts wouldn't come to the same conclusions as Baez's two psych doctors.  ha ha

So, who knows how disturbed a State expert would find Ms. Casey....but....it was reported in Reuters that Lippmann said that the psych doctors said she was deeply disturbed.  Of course the defense wanted to use them, but thought better of it when Ashton said he would have his own psych experts to check out KC. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 04:30:32 AM
What I don't understand is if the shrinks found Casey to be "deeply disturbed" why wouldn't the defense want to use their testimony?
Seems like that would be a plus for them.

The defense did want to use them.  The way I understand it is that the defense wanted two doctors added to the witness list - waaayyy after the witness was finished.  Judge Perry wasn't happy.  Ashton said if we can meet with the right away and see their report on their results...okay.  While the State was questioning the two Doctors, one of them was released "during" the interview...he either walked out or was released by Baez.  Somehow (it's confusing to me) the attorneys (I believe Baez) ended up calling the Judge on the weekend.  The result was that once Ashton said if the defense is going to call 2 psych doctors, then the State will have their own experts evaluate Ms. Anthony.....Baez withdrew both psych doctors from the list.

Sounds to me like the threat of State experts wouldn't come to the same conclusions as Baez's two psych doctors.  ha ha

So, who knows how disturbed a State expert would find Ms. Casey....but....it was reported in Reuters that Lippmann said that the psych doctors said she was deeply disturbed.  Of course the defense wanted to use them, but thought better of it when Ashton said he would have his own psych experts to check out KC. 



Yup, that is how I remember it too.  There is nothing psychologically wrong with her other than having the capability to murder her child and that is what conclusion these docs would have come to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 04:45:24 AM
Does anyone know why there are 3 day 5 murder trial threads ???

I am not for sure, but probably others created them not knowing this one was already here?  They have 0 posts in them, so who knows.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 04:52:55 AM
Valley Family of Casey Anthony Says Defense 'Despicable'  (video)

http://www.wkbn.com/mostpopular/story/Valley-Family-of-Casey-Anthony-Says-Defense/qZN8_xgNcE-in7Kj7BPiGw.cspx


That's the first time I've seen George's sister.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 04:54:11 AM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven 
proud mom of 3 beautiful daughters   Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,209 
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 04:59:37 AM
 Richard Hornsby says:
May 28, 2011 at 8:53 pm
I think the motion is one the state probably should have filed, which is a motion to prohibit the defense team from insinuating George molested Casey until such time as someone has actually testified to it.

The state should have probably made the motion immedietly after the opening statements, as it is improper for a lawyer to ask questions of witnesses that imply facts not in evidence or that the lawyer does not have a good faith belief will be established by the eventual evidence.

If argued correctly, it would force Baez to proffer to the court how be believes in good faith he will establish George molested Casey.


http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/05/websleuths-radio-appearance/comment-page-1/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:30:27 AM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven 
proud mom of 3 beautiful daughters   Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,209 
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2

and an attorney on that show said that you can sue anyone, but that attorney statements made during a trial are "protected" and, therefore, it's very doubtful that a law suit would be doubtful it would be meritorious.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 29, 2011, 06:17:31 AM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2011/05/29/casey-anthony--killer-mother
Casey Anthony - Killer Mother?
by Simon Barrett
Featured Host
in News
5/29/11 3:00PM


http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/
Casey Anthony – A Contentious Week Draws To A Close
05/28/2011 donchais





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 06:30:19 AM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven 
proud mom of 3 beautiful daughters   Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,209 
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2

and an attorney on that show said that you can sue anyone, but that attorney statements made during a trial are "protected" and, therefore, it's very doubtful that a law suit would be doubtful it would be meritorious.



That makes no sense to me that you can come up and say anything about anybody without having proof or even submitting evidence of this in pretrial phase.  Maybe the lawyer would be doing it just for effec to show bozo they are going to bow down and take it, even if the slander law suit does not fly.  Maybe they are suing KC for slander, not Bozo?  Is that possible?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 06:37:47 AM
I stole this from here:  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137902&page=6


Yesterday, 04:25 PM 
MsFacetious 
Registered User   Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,659 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Eyes 
I don't think it was any big accident that LDB showed those pictures in that order, and left the Caylee picture up all that time....I think that just in case CA had any last minute change of heart, she wanted to make sure Caylee was in the courtroom as much as Casey was.

But Cindy has Caylee's pictures on her bracelet... she isn't wearing a "Free Casey" Bracelet (if they exist.)

She is wearing a Caylee Memorial bracelet and a custom bracelet with pictures of Caylee. Caylee is in the courtroom with her...
 

Picture that was attached to this post.  Did anybody notice this?  I didn't.

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1799/caylee15.jpg) (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/caylee15.jpg/)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 06:54:49 AM
Yesterday, 06:06 PM 
 smolea 
Registered User   Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 139 
 
ICA - (she covers her mouth)...she's protecting the man that hurt me. she's gonna sit here and protect him. she's never protected me, she's not even trying now."
DS - well she has to be given a chance, Casey...
ICA - she's been given the chance for three years, and she's done nothing!
DS - i know.
ICA - i mean, how can you say she hasn't been given the chance, she has a chance every single night.
DS - you're right, i was wrong...you're right, i was wrong.
(camera pans - cant read. DS covers her mouth)
ICA - enough to be aquitted, so i can get away from them 

Stolen from here:  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137902&page=8

Can KC be stupid enough to really think, after all that has been heard so far, she will be acquitted?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 06:59:09 AM
Does anybody know if JBP was present when Beotchface had her meltdown after Cindy left the stand jury left room?  If he were present, why wouldn't he do something or did he miss the meltdown?  I think he probably left for the 10 minute break already. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 07:15:42 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 
Okay at the video mentioned above at the 10:30-10:32 mark it was about Juror number 4 who is that one again or do we know the Juror's number?  I can't make out anything else YET still working on it frame by frame.  Anyone else can piece together??  I know in the beginning she was talking to Bozo and said "Jose we have a problem" then can't make out the rest till the mark I indicated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sister on May 29, 2011, 07:23:13 AM
JMO, but I don't believe a suit for slander would be filed as a Motion at the trial.  Maybe one of our legal eagles can answer that.  I think we will have to wait until 8:30 Tuesday to find out what the Motion is really about.
On the other hand, I think there will be numerous suits filed after the trial, as His Honor alluded to some time ago.  Bet there are some attorneys out there just chomping at the bit.
 :2ukli:
Good morning monkeys.
 :smt039


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 07:30:30 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 
Okay at the video mentioned above at the 10:30-10:32 mark it was about Juror number 4 who is that one again or do we know the Juror's number?  I can't make out anything else YET still working on it frame by frame.  Anyone else can piece together??  I know in the beginning she was talking to Bozo and said "Jose we have a problem" then can't make out the rest till the mark I indicated.

I cannot make out anything. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 29, 2011, 07:32:58 AM
What I don't understand is if the shrinks found Casey to be "deeply disturbed" why wouldn't the defense want to use their testimony?
Seems like that would be a plus for them.
The DT is using the molestation as the cause , which may or may not be true.
IMO, she is more than deeply disturbed. DT was afraid to have her evaluated by anyone else
who might not agree with the molestation being the cause.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 07:54:47 AM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Mary on May 29, 2011, 08:01:35 AM
JP was the judge at the grand jury hearing, so he should have an answer as to what was
said at the GJ hearing. JB is disgusting, I sincerely hope he is disbarred when this is over.
Also, I hope they make him accountable for all the money, did he pay any taxes on all that
money. Also, I really do think she would have got around to killing Cindy and George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 08:03:47 AM
I am wondering if Lippmans motion has to do with keeping George's GJ testimony confidential, the way it is supposed to be. After all, Lippman is there to protect the Ants. That is the only other thing right now that matters. Bozo has already hurled the worst accusation he could at GA, the only other thing is the GJ stuff.
They can sue him later..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 08:11:11 AM
I hope this helps
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery)

and this one
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sister on May 29, 2011, 08:12:35 AM
I hope this helps
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery)

and this one
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/
Thanks for the links, flamom
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/WEATHER/furby-halo.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 08:24:24 AM
Your very welcome
Here is my take on the psych evals, of which I am familiar with.
They have described KC as 'very disturbed'
They probably found that she has some sort of personality disorder, which the defense cannot use to get her out of her mess. She still would know right from wrong. She seems to have a combo of several of them. Here is a link that really puts them in a very understandable way
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx7t.htm (http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx7t.htm)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2011, 08:33:03 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/964182746001/casey-anthonys-mom-takes-stand-in-trial

lol theres one single protester in the video background holding a neon green sign ... saying casey is guilty.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2714/5770666746_5b1118cffd_b.jpg)
my bad it didnt say casey is guilty...

The million $ question is "Is there anthing she is NOT guilty of "??

Honk Honk!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 08:48:30 AM
alright, I've been hesitant to post this but decided to.

In a previous post I stated I didn't get the sexual molester vibe from George - still don't.  If it is somehow proven that this man molested her I'll be shocked.

I DO from Lee (sorry).  If I'm right it doesn't mean he did because his father did.

My father sexually abused me and I reported him for molesting some family members & foster children.  He was found guilty.  I have worked with therapists & also abuse victims myself for 25 years.

I'm hoping this uh hum "older" mommy of a 2 year old's radar is broken from lack of sleep.

please be wrong - fingers crossed - please be wrong


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 08:50:48 AM
I hope this helps
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery)

and this one
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/
Thanks for the links, flamom
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/WEATHER/furby-halo.gif)


ohhhhh great links!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 09:02:01 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 
Okay at the video mentioned above at the 10:30-10:32 mark it was about Juror number 4 who is that one again or do we know the Juror's number?  I can't make out anything else YET still working on it frame by frame.  Anyone else can piece together??  I know in the beginning she was talking to Bozo and said "Jose we have a problem" then can't make out the rest till the mark I indicated.

According to the FlaMom's links, #4 is the Farmville lady, right?

Quote from: flamom on May 29, 2011, 07:11:11 AM
I hope this helps
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery

and this one
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 09:04:15 AM
do you think at first glance these stats help the defense or the state?  (and I know there's still alot of factors to consider about each just wondering about "first glance")

*7 females jurors & 5 male jurors

*half the jurors have children & half do not
              (3 m no kids 3 f no kids / 4 f with kids 2 m with kids)?

thx flamom for the link!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 09:08:20 AM
do you think at first glance these stats help the defense or the state?  (and I know there's still alot of factors to consider about each just wondering about "first glance")

*7 females jurors & 5 male jurors

*half the jurors have children & half do not
              (3 m no kids 3 f no kids / 4 f with kids 2 m with kids)?

thx flamom for the link!



They wanted more men on the jury who would think she is hot.  So, they did not get that.  But, it just takes 1 single juror to hold out and get a misstrial. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 09:11:13 AM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on May 29, 2011, 09:17:55 AM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?


http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/05/ ... legations/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 09:19:01 AM
Can someone provide a link to FBI agent Nick Savage's depo? I cannot read the one posted at WS because the docstoc one is defective.
What I did manage to read was that they gave the Ants some sort of questionaire to fill out.
It is frustrating to read something that turns blank as you are scrolling. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 09:19:37 AM


They wanted more men on the jury who would think she is hot.  So, they did not get that.  But, it just takes 1 single juror to hold out and get a misstrial. 

I agree. Plus, the guys hearing about all her lies and sexual escapades might prejudice them. Never know how many of those guys have been cheated on and/or lied to and had their hearts broken. I realize this is beyond the scope of "first glance" but it was something my husband mentioned a few days ago and so it's been on my mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 09:20:48 AM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Bump


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 09:22:59 AM
Juror 4
Photos of jurors are not allowed
Description: She is a middle aged black female. She heard about the case when it first happened. She survived a preemptory challenge last week when prosecutors asked that she be removed from the panel of prospective jurors.
Fast fact: She said she doesn’t like to "judge people."
Quote: She told attorneys that after seeing the mitigating and aggravating factors, she "thinks" she can recommend a death sentence. "I just don't like to point my finger at anyone," she said. "What I mean by that is, judging someone by what they say."]Juror 4
Photos of jurors are not allowed
Description: She is a middle aged black female. She heard about the case when it first happened. She survived a preemptory challenge last week when prosecutors asked that she be removed from the panel of prospective jurors.
Fast fact: She said she doesn’t like to "judge people."
Quote: She told attorneys that after seeing the mitigating and aggravating factors, she "thinks" she can recommend a death sentence. "I just don't like to point my finger at anyone," she said. "What I mean by that is, judging someone by what they say."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2011, 09:23:30 AM
in the off chance that Lee did do something to Casey, I think that it was more of a couple of kids experimenting, touchy feely type of thing...nothing more..and who might have initiated it? ..and we will never know cause Casey is such a liar..Lee will be ashamed/embarrassed by it and will never admit to it even  if it did happen...who are we gonna believe? everyone knows that Casey is a liar....If  Casey has not been shown to be such a liar, my feelings would be different on this matter..
I do not dismiss claims of molestation lightly,  but this one I do...
at any rate, molestation or not, it does not make someone murder their own child..jmo.
If anything, it should make that person even more protective of their child jmo...


on another topic..upon hearing that Casey spent the night here and there and everywhere and Caylee was not with her, and now Cindy knows that there was no Zanny, she must be anguishing in her own mind...was Caylee drugged and left in the car when she could have kept Caylee on those nights..
it makes me so angry to even think about this..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 09:23:57 AM
I dont know how that ended up blue  ::MonkeyHaHa::

You clicked on the hyperlink icon - I've fixed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?

I don't know, but just wanted to comment that our law seriously needs to change to not allow people to make opening statements accusing people of stuff they have no backup proof on that was presented during pretrial hearings, etc.  That is just beyond belief to me. 

Not one iota of evidence has been presented to show she had been molested or Caylee had drowned, no evidence showing Caylee had drowned, in all the evidentary hearings, months of pretrial crap, and I thought we could not do "trial by ambush" which I heard JBP say to Bozo many times.  His openign statement was trial by ambush to me.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 09:27:35 AM
Can someone provide a link to FBI agent Nick Savage's depo? I cannot read the one posted at WS because the docstoc one is defective.
What I did manage to read was that they gave the Ants some sort of questionaire to fill out.
It is frustrating to read something that turns blank as you are scrolling. TIA

I downloaded the doc stop one and use another pDF viewer to read it.  It was horrible trying to read it on their site.  I would scroll down and the page would disappear, and then skip 3 pages, and you could not see end of the page. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 09:29:11 AM
Can someone provide a link to FBI agent Nick Savage's depo? I cannot read the one posted at WS because the docstoc one is defective.
What I did manage to read was that they gave the Ants some sort of questionaire to fill out.
It is frustrating to read something that turns blank as you are scrolling. TIA

I downloaded the doc stop one and use another pDF viewer to read it.  It was horrible trying to read it on their site.  I would scroll down and the page would disappear, and then skip 3 pages, and you could not see end of the page. 

This is the program I use to read them.   http://www.nitroreader.com/download/

So, I download it off docstop, then do file open with and chose the Nitro PDFreader


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 29, 2011, 09:33:06 AM
@20:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28058702/index.html

Cindy answers question about if she has looked for Zanny and for how long.  She is hesitant to answer she looked for her up until 6 weeks ago  then her body starts to shake.  You can really see the shaking in her hair.  I think she has slowly started to see how she was being played and agree that this was a very clear and public message that ICA was on her own with all her lies now.

Sorry I am so far behind.  Just watching the last of the videos now.

Yes, Cindy really started shaking, deep breathing.....I thought @ one point she might pass out, her eyes started rolling. I believe Judge Perry & lovely Linda Drane-Burdick were keeping a close eye on Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 09:33:15 AM
Does anyone know why there are 3 day 5 murder trial threads ???

I am not for sure, but probably others created them not knowing this one was already here?  They have 0 posts in them, so who knows.

They were O/T posts that were removed from this thread but the moderator must of have gotten sidetracked and neglected to merge into the Break Room.  I have moved them to the break room now.  Anything the moderators deam as O/T is getting moved to the break room when we see them (the O/T posts). 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 09:35:49 AM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of ...
<snipped>


http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/05/ ... legations/

Thank you! That is interesting indeed!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 09:37:28 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/waaaaaaaaaa.jpg)



http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/28058139/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 09:41:06 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/waaaaaaaaaa.jpg)



http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/28058139/detail.html

That picture makes me very happy.  I hope to see that too in about 6 weeks when she is found guilty of 1st degree murder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 09:43:18 AM

I don't know, but just wanted to comment that our law seriously needs to change to not allow people to make opening statements accusing people of stuff they have no backup proof on that was presented during pretrial hearings, etc.  That is just beyond belief to me. 

Not one iota of evidence has been presented to show she had been molested or Caylee had drowned, no evidence showing Caylee had drowned, in all the evidentary hearings, months of pretrial crap, and I thought we could not do "trial by ambush" which I heard JBP say to Bozo many times.  His openign statement was trial by ambush to me.



It is indeed shocking! I wonder why it's protected? There is most likely a reason. Though it is upsetting in thus case gore sure!

 I'm sorry; I was so into reading and posting, I forgot to say hood morning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 09:47:03 AM
I also apologize for typos. I am on a small phone today and my monkey fingers are too big for the screen keys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 09:47:29 AM
I wonder how Cindy is going to explain the 911 call.  She later "claimed" she made up that it smelled like a dead body so the police would come sooner.  Will she admit the lie?


i think she just might. i also think the prosecution has done a good job of laying groundwork that the anthony's conflicting statements were because they didn't want to believe their daughter killed their granddaughter... i don't think their conflicting statements will end up being a prob for the jury as long as they tell the truth now. even on the anthony's worst day they are still a million times more credible than KC. combine that with all the other witness testimony we have heard and will hear and her goose is cooked.

the prosecution def has a way they are planning on dealing with the a's previous "mistruths"  (all imo of course)

Lying to a cop is one thing, lying to a judge is perjury.
Lying under oath is also known as perjury. It is a very serious criminal offense due to the threat it poses to the legal system.



Aren't depositions done under oath?  Was she under oath when she said that.  I don't know where it came from I just know I heard her say it.

YES Depositions are a part of the discovery process in which litigants gather ... Prior to taking a deposition, the court reporter administers the same oath.
 I thought it would be much worse with the Judge there. just using google to check this stuff out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TexasBarMom on May 29, 2011, 09:48:56 AM
Hi Monkeys - wanted to bring up something I don't think anyone has touched on yet - I think the teddy bear that Cindy reported as having disappeared from the house, is the one that was found in Casey's car.  And I think this is "new info", i.e. places Casey at the house in the week after june 16th.  Not sure if it is significant tho.  But I think it's the first time we've heard that the bear was known to be at the house after Casey and Caylee disappeared on the 16th of June.  Anyone??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 09:51:11 AM
Hi Monkeys - wanted to bring up something I don't think anyone has touched on yet - I think the teddy bear that Cindy reported as having disappeared from the house, is the one that was found in Casey's car.  And I think this is "new info", i.e. places Casey at the house in the week after june 16th.  Not sure if it is significant tho.  But I think it's the first time we've heard that the bear was known to be at the house after Casey and Caylee disappeared on the 16th of June.  Anyone??

Interesting! I admit I didn't catch that. Hummm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 09:53:41 AM
Thanks to Valhall
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery (http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 09:59:13 AM
Thanks to Valhall
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery (http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery)

Did you read her weekly recap.  I gotta say, if you are an alien and not up to date on this case, reading this one post clears so many things up. 

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/05/28/caylee-anthony-case-review-of-trial-week-1/#more-6966


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 10:00:22 AM
So last night I couldn't help but wonder if KC taped Caylee's mouth and nose and threw her in the pool to make it seem like an accident, but then realized there would be no water in the lungs; so she buried her in the sandbox until she hot help (which I do think she had but don't know who) to bag her and dump her?

This would explain the dog hits on the pool and sandbox, borrowing the shovel, dent in the pool, etc???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 10:04:42 AM
Hi Monkeys - wanted to bring up something I don't think anyone has touched on yet - I think the teddy bear that Cindy reported as having disappeared from the house, is the one that was found in Casey's car.  And I think this is "new info", i.e. places Casey at the house in the week after june 16th.  Not sure if it is significant tho.  But I think it's the first time we've heard that the bear was known to be at the house after Casey and Caylee disappeared on the 16th of June.  Anyone??

Well we know she was at the house the day she threw the gas cans at her father, the 24th or 25th, so that is after the 16th, to get clothes, only had 10 minutes, had to get to work, BS that she told him, before throwing the gas cans at him. 



 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flutter1 on May 29, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
I share your experience and opinion about George.  I haven't any opinion on Lee, but I have not really focused or observed him particularly closely. 

BTW, I am glad you reported your abuser; I never did.   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 10:12:12 AM
So last night I couldn't help but wonder if KC taped Caylee's mouth and nose and threw her in the pool to make it seem like an accident, but then realized there would be no water in the lungs; so she buried her in the sandbox until she hot help (which I do think she had but don't know who) to bag her and dump her?

This would explain the dog hits on the pool and sandbox, borrowing the shovel, dent in the pool, etc???

I don't think she had help.  First, of all the people who testified so far, they all seem to have a conscience, so doubt they would be able to help bury Caylee and keep it a secret.  Secondly, Caylee weight what 19 pounds?  She didn't need help. 

IMO, she did this all by myself, but some time between 2 something and 4 when she tried to call her parents, I believe she drowned Caylee in the pool.  I believe she put the ladder on the pool, got in with Caylee, put duct tape to stop her screaming for help, maybe even tied her hands so she could not take teh duct tape off, and drowned her, took her out of the pool, took the string or whatever off her hands (where is the work lanyard?) and put her in the playhouse or sand box, until she moved her, which I am having a hard time pinning down what day she moved her.  MOO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TexasBarMom on May 29, 2011, 10:18:57 AM
Just dumping my thoughts -
Things that point to a possible accident -
Cindy has already given (deposition) testimony that when she returned home from work on Monday June 16th, the ladder was attached to the pool.
Between 4 and 5 pm on Monday June 16th, Casey tried frantically to get in touch with her mother and (I think) a couple of other people (several unsuccessful phone calls).  She was trying VERY hard to get hold of someone.

Things that point to murder -
Duct tape with heart sticker.
The fight that Cindy and Casey had on the evening of June 15th (which Cindy failed to mention yesterday but I think will come out) - killed Caylee out of spite?
Casey's diary entry
Casey partying and living it up.
Chloroform.
Neck breaking searches on her computer.

Things that point to Casey being EVIL and/or stupid, possibly both -
Claiming now that it was an accident, and that her dad is in on the coverup and that she lies because her dad molested her?????  I don't think there's a single person alive that believes that.

If they had showed up in court and opened by saying, "hey, it was an accident, Caylee drowned and Casey, who has the emotional maturity of a 7 year old, lied and covered it up rather than doing the right thing.  Once that ball started rolling, she felt she could not turn back" - I think everyone would have believed that and her death penalty problem would be solved. 

The fact that they showed up in court with this ridiculous new version of events just tells me that 1) she's guilty of murder and 2) Baez is more of an idiot than I ever dreamed.

One other thing that has been glossed over since the beginning, is that over at least a year or so prior to Caylee's death, there were numerous occasions where Casey claimed that Caylee was with the Nanny, but nobody really knows where she was during those times.  We know that there was no nanny.  I think that the evidence points to Casey "putting Caylee to sleep" so that she could have a life.  And I hope someone asks this question during the trial. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TexasBarMom on May 29, 2011, 10:25:06 AM
Hi Monkeys - wanted to bring up something I don't think anyone has touched on yet - I think the teddy bear that Cindy reported as having disappeared from the house, is the one that was found in Casey's car.  And I think this is "new info", i.e. places Casey at the house in the week after june 16th.  Not sure if it is significant tho.  But I think it's the first time we've heard that the bear was known to be at the house after Casey and Caylee disappeared on the 16th of June.  Anyone??

Well we know she was at the house the day she threw the gas cans at her father, the 24th or 25th, so that is after the 16th, to get clothes, only had 10 minutes, had to get to work, BS that she told him, before throwing the gas cans at him. 



 
Yes but what we didn't know is that the bear was at the house after Caylee died, and was removed and placed in the car.  I think it's not an accident that it was brought up.   The prosecutors in this case are methodically laying out all the facts, and when they're done, they're going to tie them all together, put a big bow on them and hand them to the jury :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 10:25:20 AM
Just dumping my thoughts -
Things that point to a possible accident -
Cindy has already given (deposition) testimony that when she returned home from work on Monday June 16th, the ladder was attached to the pool.
Between 4 and 5 pm on Monday June 16th, Casey tried frantically to get in touch with her mother and (I think) a couple of other people (several
unsuccessful phone calls).  She was trying VERY hard to get hold of someone.

Things that point to murder -
Duct tape with heart sticker.
The fight that Cindy and Casey had on the evening of June 15th (which Cindy failed to mention yesterday but I think will come out) - killed Caylee out of spite?
Casey's diary entry
Casey partying and living it up.
Chloroform.
Neck breaking searches on her computer.

Things that point to Casey being EVIL and/or stupid, possibly both -
Claiming now that it was an accident, and that her dad is in on the coverup and that she lies because her dad molested her?????  I don't think there's a single person alive that believes that.

If they had showed up in court and opened by saying, "hey, it was an accident, Caylee drowned and Casey, who has the emotional maturity of a 7 year old, lied and covered it up rather than doing the right thing.  Once that ball started rolling, she felt she could not turn back" - I think everyone would have believed that and her death penalty problem would be solved. 

The fact that they showed up in court with this ridiculous new version of events just tells me that 1) she's guilty of murder and 2) Baez is more of an idiot than I ever dreamed.

One other thing that has been glossed over since the beginning, is that over at least a year or so prior to Caylee's death, there were numerous occasions where Casey claimed that Caylee was with the Nanny, but nobody really knows where she was during those times.  We know that there was no nanny.  I think that the evidence points to Casey "putting Caylee to sleep" so that she could have a life.  And I hope someone asks this question during the trial. 

Regarding what I bolded, I think she was trying to set it up as an accident, after she drowned her, by trying to get  a hold of people, and when she could not, she changed plans.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 10:25:36 AM
The only reason I thought she had help was the guys voice the neighbor heard in the backyard. I agree, though, the witnesses so far seem fairly credible.

Also, yes, she almost certainly had to be drugging Caylee when there's no where else she could have been. It makes me sick to think Casey might have even made it like a game to Caylee. Why else would Caylee seem excited about going to see Zanny (as per GA's testimony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 10:26:16 AM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?

...  even if the opening statement are riddled with claims which have no foundation?

Could it be that defence does have a witness ... witnesses who will validate the disgusting/incriminating accusations within that openng statement?

Could it be that the author/s of those "psych evals" will be called as defence witnesses to substantiate Baez/Casey's claims?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html

Northern Rose


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TexasBarMom on May 29, 2011, 10:28:39 AM
Just dumping my thoughts -
Things that point to a possible accident -
Cindy has already given (deposition) testimony that when she returned home from work on Monday June 16th, the ladder was attached to the pool.
Between 4 and 5 pm on Monday June 16th, Casey tried frantically to get in touch with her mother and (I think) a couple of other people (several
unsuccessful phone calls).  She was trying VERY hard to get hold of someone.

Things that point to murder -
Duct tape with heart sticker.
The fight that Cindy and Casey had on the evening of June 15th (which Cindy failed to mention yesterday but I think will come out) - killed Caylee out of spite?
Casey's diary entry
Casey partying and living it up.
Chloroform.
Neck breaking searches on her computer.

Things that point to Casey being EVIL and/or stupid, possibly both -
Claiming now that it was an accident, and that her dad is in on the coverup and that she lies because her dad molested her?????  I don't think there's a single person alive that believes that.

If they had showed up in court and opened by saying, "hey, it was an accident, Caylee drowned and Casey, who has the emotional maturity of a 7 year old, lied and covered it up rather than doing the right thing.  Once that ball started rolling, she felt she could not turn back" - I think everyone would have believed that and her death penalty problem would be solved. 

The fact that they showed up in court with this ridiculous new version of events just tells me that 1) she's guilty of murder and 2) Baez is more of an idiot than I ever dreamed.

One other thing that has been glossed over since the beginning, is that over at least a year or so prior to Caylee's death, there were numerous occasions where Casey claimed that Caylee was with the Nanny, but nobody really knows where she was during those times.  We know that there was no nanny.  I think that the evidence points to Casey "putting Caylee to sleep" so that she could have a life.  And I hope someone asks this question during the trial. 

Regarding what I bolded, I think she was trying to set it up as an accident, after she drowned her, by trying to get  a hold of people, and when she could not, she changed plans.  JMO
True that, I should have said "known facts that could be consistent with an accident" :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 29, 2011, 10:31:01 AM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...

i think George always knew in his heart that Caylee was dead.  I think it was similar to his disbelief that Casey was working but he wasn't allowed to rock the boat with Cindy.  I think Cindy was the one in complete denial and that was why George, in part, behaved as he did.  He wanted to cooperate with the police and did so to the extent that it didn't send Cindy completely over the edge and totally alienate her from him.  I think that Cindy wasn't going to hear anything but that Caylee was alive and that Casey had nothing to do with her death.  I think that put George in an awful position.  I could be totally wrong about that but both of their actions are consistent with that scenario.

For me, I was holding my breath waiting for Cindy to start her protection phase.  The single most important thing I heard from her today was that she was looking for a nanny UP UNTIL 6 WEEKS AGO, at which time she stopped looking for any nanny cause she realized there was no nanny.  For me, that told me she stopped believing her daughter after it was learned she was going to accuse George and Lee of disgusting things and half the state of Florida with moving Caylee's body.  She also learned of the drowning theory then in detail, and realized that KC knew while everybody was looking for Caylee that Caylee was dead and let everybody continue looking for her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 10:31:41 AM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 29, 2011, 10:31:56 AM
I'm sorry about the above post, I got it mixed in with the others. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TexasBarMom on May 29, 2011, 10:34:47 AM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...
I think they both knew in their hearts, very early on, that the baby was dead and had been in the trunk of the car.  I do think George probably accepted this both intellectually and emotionally, long before Cindy did.  Bad position indeed, they both have my deepest sympathies.  No matter what they did after the fact, due to confusion or grief or love for Casey, they did not kill Caylee.
i think George always knew in his heart that Caylee was dead.  I think it was similar to his disbelief that Casey was working but he wasn't allowed to rock the boat with Cindy.  I think Cindy was the one in complete denial and that was why George, in part, behaved as he did.  He wanted to cooperate with the police and did so to the extent that it didn't send Cindy completely over the edge and totally alienate her from him.  I think that Cindy wasn't going to hear anything but that Caylee was alive and that Casey had nothing to do with her death.  I think that put George in an awful position.  I could be totally wrong about that but both of their actions are consistent with that scenario.

For me, I was holding my breath waiting for Cindy to start her protection phase.  The single most important thing I heard from her today was that she was looking for a nanny UP UNTIL 6 WEEKS AGO, at which time she stopped looking for any nanny cause she realized there was no nanny.  For me, that told me she stopped believing her daughter after it was learned she was going to accuse George and Lee of disgusting things and half the state of Florida with moving Caylee's body.  She also learned of the drowning theory then in detail, and realized that KC knew while everybody was looking for Caylee that Caylee was dead and let everybody continue looking for her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TexasBarMom on May 29, 2011, 10:39:26 AM
I am thinking that the Anthony's have had a change of heart on all of this..They were desperate grieving grand parents who were spinning in all different directions and emotions...No one would want to believe that their own daughter would harm your precious grand child..they were in complete denial and grief..
they have made their mistakes..they have been weird..but now seeing them this way, I can sympathize with them greatly..
I don't understand some of their behavior, but thank you for the Grace of God, I have never had to walk in their shoes. 

For the time being, I am being forgiving of them and trusting that they have finally seen their daughter for what she is...the murderer of their grand child...
I think they both knew in their hearts, very early on, that the baby was dead and had been in the trunk of the car.  I do think George probably accepted this both intellectually and emotionally, long before Cindy did.  Bad position indeed, they both have my deepest sympathies.  No matter what they did after the fact, due to confusion or grief or love for Casey, they did not kill Caylee.
i think George always knew in his heart that Caylee was dead.  I think it was similar to his disbelief that Casey was working but he wasn't allowed to rock the boat with Cindy.  I think Cindy was the one in complete denial and that was why George, in part, behaved as he did.  He wanted to cooperate with the police and did so to the extent that it didn't send Cindy completely over the edge and totally alienate her from him.  I think that Cindy wasn't going to hear anything but that Caylee was alive and that Casey had nothing to do with her death.  I think that put George in an awful position.  I could be totally wrong about that but both of their actions are consistent with that scenario.

For me, I was holding my breath waiting for Cindy to start her protection phase.  The single most important thing I heard from her today was that she was looking for a nanny UP UNTIL 6 WEEKS AGO, at which time she stopped looking for any nanny cause she realized there was no nanny.  For me, that told me she stopped believing her daughter after it was learned she was going to accuse George and Lee of disgusting things and half the state of Florida with moving Caylee's body.  She also learned of the drowning theory then in detail, and realized that KC knew while everybody was looking for Caylee that Caylee was dead and let everybody continue looking for her. 

oops, bold is what I said, sorry bout the embedding :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:40:28 AM

I don't know, but just wanted to comment that our law seriously needs to change to not allow people to make opening statements accusing people of stuff they have no backup proof on that was presented during pretrial hearings, etc.  That is just beyond belief to me. 

Not one iota of evidence has been presented to show she had been molested or Caylee had drowned, no evidence showing Caylee had drowned, in all the evidentary hearings, months of pretrial crap, and I thought we could not do "trial by ambush" which I heard JBP say to Bozo many times.  His openign statement was trial by ambush to me.



It is indeed shocking! I wonder why it's protected? There is most likely a reason. Though it is upsetting in thus case gore sure!

 I'm sorry; I was so into reading and posting, I forgot to say hood morning.

Good Morning Monks.....I asked my attorney friend the same question....his reply:

A lawyer is typically protected as that which is said in court is protected. Also, presuming that his client told him such things, then he is simply advocating a position on behalf of his client.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monken on May 29, 2011, 10:45:07 AM
Klaas, are you there? I have aquestion about posting some info from another site, can I copy & paste or just post the link?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 10:48:37 AM
Lee Anthony wants immunity before he completely cooperates with police and local prosecutors. My guestion is, will or should Lee Anthony be granted immunity from prostitution in exchange for his cooperation in helping authorities convict his sister Casey of murder?

The missing child case of Caylee Anthony which later turned into a murder investigation when her mother Casey Anthony was arrested has had many ups and downs over the past six month. In addition to Lee Anthony now asking for immunity before he fully cooperates with authorities, both Cindy and George Anthony also want immunity before they cooperate, as well.

Did he get it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 10:51:35 AM
Klaas, are you there? I have aquestion about posting some info from another site, can I copy & paste or just post the link?

Monken - 98% of the time we want the link with the post.  If it is a media article we only want like the first paragraph, then snip and add the link.  If it's a blog you can probably copy and paste but please YES we always want the link.  Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monken on May 29, 2011, 10:55:27 AM
Klaas, are you there? I have aquestion about posting some info from another site, can I copy & paste or just post the link?

Monken - 98% of the time we want the link with the post.  If it is a media article we only want like the first paragraph, then snip and add the link.  If it's a blog you can probably copy and paste but please YES we always want the link.  Thanks!


Okay, Thanks, I'll post the first of it and the link, if i don't do it right let me know, k


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 10:57:50 AM
Cindy Anthony does further the defence's theory of "accidental drowning" in the family pool when she claims that she put the ladder away on the evening of June 15th ... the ladder she apparently told co-workers that was found against the pool on June 17th.

Is the "co-worker" on the witness list?

Janet

++++++

Defense: Caylee Drowned In Her Grandparents' Pool
POSTED: 10:10 pm MDT May 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:34 pm MDT May 24, 2011


<snipped>

Baez said the family was "religious" about removing the above-ground pool ladder so that Caylee, who loved to swim, had no access to it. He suggested that Caylee's grandmother, Cindy Anthony, had forgotten to put it up the night before Caylee drowned, as she and Caylee were just exiting the pool when Anthony arrived home.

The day after Caylee's death, June 17, Cindy Anthony told coworkers she believed someone had been swimming in her pool, as the gate was left open and the ladder was left in place, Baez said.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/28000319/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 11:00:37 AM
Klaas, are you there? I have aquestion about posting some info from another site, can I copy & paste or just post the link?

Monken - 98% of the time we want the link with the post.  If it is a media article we only want like the first paragraph, then snip and add the link.  If it's a blog you can probably copy and paste but please YES we always want the link.  Thanks!


Okay, Thanks, I'll post the first of it and the link, if i don't do it right let me know, k

Go ahead and post.  I have to run out for a bit, will check when I get back.  I'm sure it will be fine.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sister on May 29, 2011, 11:03:45 AM
Just because Baez suggests Cindy forgot to take down the ladder, doesn't make it so.  All was part of the concocted story to blame everyone else, including precious Caylee for climbing the ladder.  It does nothing IMO to further the accidential drowning BS.  Along with his client, the truth and Baez are total strangers, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 11:03:56 AM
Cindy Anthony does further the defence's theory of "accidental drowning" in the family pool when she claims that she put the ladder away on the evening of June 15th ... the ladder she apparently told co-workers that was found against the pool on June 17th.

Is the "co-worker" on the witness list?

Janet

++++++

Defense: Caylee Drowned In Her Grandparents' Pool
POSTED: 10:10 pm MDT May 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:34 pm MDT May 24, 2011


<snipped>

Baez said the family was "religious" about removing the above-ground pool ladder so that Caylee, who loved to swim, had no access to it. He suggested that Caylee's grandmother, Cindy Anthony, had forgotten to put it up the night before Caylee drowned, as she and Caylee were just exiting the pool when Anthony arrived home.

The day after Caylee's death, June 17, Cindy Anthony told coworkers she believed someone had been swimming in her pool, as the gate was left open and the ladder was left in place, Baez said.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/28000319/detail.html


Her statements for me yesterday were in no way a help tothe DT.  She states w/o a doubt she put the ladder away 6/15, so it was not there 6/16, and KC and Cayle suposedly left to go to work, and Geroge went to work, so nobody swam on 6/16, so in my mind, this shows the jury that if Caylee drowned in the pool it is because her mother put her there and not because of an accident.  IMO 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monken on May 29, 2011, 11:05:11 AM
Good Morning all! Just wanted to refresh everyone on psychopaths since that is what Casey is. Everyone, if you have a moment please read what's at the link. The first section as it begins reads Profile of the Sociopath(same as psychopath!) in particular the last sentence in this section really caught my eye: Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution, changes life story readily. i can see Casey in every single word of this, i so wish the pros could prove that casey is a sociopath i just don't know how they could,  http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html   


   



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sister on May 29, 2011, 11:06:32 AM

Her statements for me yesterday were in no way a help tothe DT.  She states w/o a doubt she put the ladder away 6/15, so it was not there 6/16, and KC and Cayle suposedly left to go to work, and Geroge went to work, so nobody swam on 6/16, so in my mind, this shows the jury that if Caylee drowned in the pool it is because her mother put her there and not because of an accident.  IMO 
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monken on May 29, 2011, 11:13:18 AM
Good Morning all! Just wanted to refresh everyone on psychopaths since that is what Casey is. Everyone, if you have a moment please read what's at the link. The first section as it begins reads Profile of the Sociopath(same as psychopath!) in particular the last sentence in this section really caught my eye: Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution, changes life story readily. i can see Casey in every single word of this, i so wish the pros could prove that casey is a sociopath i just don't know how they could,  http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html   


   





I had to change computers, i still can't do alot of things on the laptop, anyway, here's the first part i was talking about:
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.



Glibness and Superficial Charm


Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.


Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."


Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.


Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.


Incapacity for Love


Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.


Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.  
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 11:22:07 AM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 11:24:44 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 
Okay at the video mentioned above at the 10:30-10:32 mark it was about Juror number 4 who is that one again or do we know the Juror's number?  I can't make out anything else YET still working on it frame by frame.  Anyone else can piece together??  I know in the beginning she was talking to Bozo and said "Jose we have a problem" then can't make out the rest till the mark I indicated.

According to the FlaMom's links, #4 is the Farmville lady, right?

Quote from: flamom on May 29, 2011, 07:11:11 AM
I hope this helps
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery

and this one
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/
FarmVille Lady huh?? Ohh wow didn't we all think that she would be on Casey side..something must have happened for Casey to have mouthed the words that there's a problem with Juror number 4


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ShariVari on May 29, 2011, 11:27:55 AM



Morning Monkeys! Sorry I'm quoting at the top, my iPad makes a quote box mess if I don't.


Even though I think KC is as guilty as they come, I think the frantic calls to Cindy on June 16 make things SEEM more accidental. I wonder if she called at a time she knew Cindy couldn't answer and the defense will bring up that she tried to call Cindy, but Cindy ignored her cuz she's always been so "mean and abusive like dad and Lee" leaving KC out in the cold to fend for herself in an emergency? Just a though! Please no nanner throwing  ::MonkeyBike::



Just dumping my thoughts -
Things that point to a possible accident -
Cindy has already given (deposition) testimony that when she returned home from work on Monday June 16th, the ladder was attached to the pool.
Between 4 and 5 pm on Monday June 16th, Casey tried frantically to get in touch with her mother and (I think) a couple of other people (several unsuccessful phone calls).  She was trying VERY hard to get hold of someone.

Things that point to murder -
Duct tape with heart sticker.
The fight that Cindy and Casey had on the evening of June 15th (which Cindy failed to mention yesterday but I think will come out) - killed Caylee out of spite?
Casey's diary entry
Casey partying and living it up.
Chloroform.
Neck breaking searches on her computer.

Things that point to Casey being EVIL and/or stupid, possibly both -
Claiming now that it was an accident, and that her dad is in on the coverup and that she lies because her dad molested her?????  I don't think there's a single person alive that believes that.

If they had showed up in court and opened by saying, "hey, it was an accident, Caylee drowned and Casey, who has the emotional maturity of a 7 year old, lied and covered it up rather than doing the right thing.  Once that ball started rolling, she felt she could not turn back" - I think everyone would have believed that and her death penalty problem would be solved. 

The fact that they showed up in court with this ridiculous new version of events just tells me that 1) she's guilty of murder and 2) Baez is more of an idiot than I ever dreamed.

One other thing that has been glossed over since the beginning, is that over at least a year or so prior to Caylee's death, there were numerous occasions where Casey claimed that Caylee was with the Nanny, but nobody really knows where she was during those times.  We know that there was no nanny.  I think that the evidence points to Casey "putting Caylee to sleep" so that she could have a life.  And I hope someone asks this question during the trial. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Sister on May 29, 2011, 11:28:04 AM
If it is Juror #4, she is probably realizing there is a difference between weighing the facts and the evidence and judging based on opinion.  It can be a real eye-opener and I am hoping she will see the difference.
 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 11:28:44 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 
Okay at the video mentioned above at the 10:30-10:32 mark it was about Juror number 4 who is that one again or do we know the Juror's number?  I can't make out anything else YET still working on it frame by frame.  Anyone else can piece together??  I know in the beginning she was talking to Bozo and said "Jose we have a problem" then can't make out the rest till the mark I indicated.

According to the FlaMom's links, #4 is the Farmville lady, right?

Quote from: flamom on May 29, 2011, 07:11:11 AM
I hope this helps
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery

and this one
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/
FarmVille Lady huh?? Ohh wow didn't we all think that she would be on Casey side..something must have happened for Casey to have mouthed the words that there's a problem with Juror number 4

I know, I am dying to know now what happened. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 11:31:25 AM
Cindy Anthony does further the defence's theory of "accidental drowning" in the family pool when she claims that she put the ladder away on the evening of June 15th ... the ladder she apparently told co-workers that was found against the pool on June 17th.

Is the "co-worker" on the witness list?

Janet

++++++

Defense: Caylee Drowned In Her Grandparents' Pool
POSTED: 10:10 pm MDT May 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:34 pm MDT May 24, 2011


<snipped>

Baez said the family was "religious" about removing the above-ground pool ladder so that Caylee, who loved to swim, had no access to it. He suggested that Caylee's grandmother, Cindy Anthony, had forgotten to put it up the night before Caylee drowned, as she and Caylee were just exiting the pool when Anthony arrived home.

The day after Caylee's death, June 17, Cindy Anthony told coworkers she believed someone had been swimming in her pool, as the gate was left open and the ladder was left in place, Baez said.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/28000319/detail.html


Her statements for me yesterday were in no way a help tothe DT.  She states w/o a doubt she put the ladder away 6/15, so it was not there 6/16, and KC and Cayle suposedly left to go to work, and Geroge went to work, so nobody swam on 6/16, so in my mind, this shows the jury that if Caylee drowned in the pool it is because her mother put her there and not because of an accident.  IMO
 

That makes sense.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 11:31:41 AM
So last night I couldn't help but wonder if KC taped Caylee's mouth and nose and threw her in the pool to make it seem like an accident, but then realized there would be no water in the lungs; so she buried her in the sandbox until she hot help (which I do think she had but don't know who) to bag her and dump her?

This would explain the dog hits on the pool and sandbox, borrowing the shovel, dent in the pool, etc???

snip;
This would explain the dog hits on the pool and sandbox, borrowing the shovel, dent in the pool, etc???

Was there a dent in the pool?  If so what side of the pool and is there a picture of this dent?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: exlurker on May 29, 2011, 11:36:51 AM
Diane Fanning said she coulnt see any evidence GA sexually abused KC.
Gloria Allred is on, what a repulsive woman
Anyone read Diane Fannings book?

Yes I read "Mommy's Little Girl" by Diane Fanning

(the day it was released....I admit, I'm pathetic LOL)

I thought her book was a good read.....no real bombshells, she got most of her info from the same documents released as we did. There were a couple tid bits of info from family (KC's uncle, Gramma Shirley IIRC) that I hadn't seen or prob just forgot about it. I continue to use it as one of my references, I keep it on my desk right next to my PC.

Thanks seeme!


I have it too..good book.  You can get it on Barnes and Noble ereader for 6.99. I dont have a Nook, but you can download it to your pc, iphone, blackberry.. On the Nook site you can download the ereaders for free and purchase the book.  Great deal for 6.99!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: mizjay on May 29, 2011, 11:37:38 AM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 

Well maybe they should have kept their table where everybody else has it. They always are demanding this & that, they asked to be directly across from the jury, what's the jury supposed to do...keep their eyes averted from the princess at all times????   Wonder if they thought the defendant still had that ole black magic to catch a juror's eye and flirt or if it was all about their paranoia over 'people' reading their stupid computers. Maybe the DT has been around their psycho client so long they think she still comes off as normal?  She looks crazy..my brother called me, caught a glance on tv...that's the first thing he said so being smack dab across from the jury may not be working like they hoped. Oh well.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 11:43:27 AM
Anybody link this yet?  If so, do apologize, I just read it. 

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/baez-pitches-telemundo-soap-opera-plot-in-lieu-of-opening-statement/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 11:44:46 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.
omg turbo thanks
this makes my day.

I don't know that is what it is, but it crossed my mind that an attorney can't stand up in court and tell blatant lies regardless of his motive. I am not sure what the consequences would be as we all know there are serious laws against slander, but there also may be legal consequences if he knowing the truth pursued a lie. We know there can be legal sanctions by the bar, but the way the Anthony attorney's use of words has me really curious as to what he has planned for bozo.

I found this
As it stands now in Washington, lawyers can't knowingly offer false information in court, and they can't put their client on the witness stand if they know the client will lie.



http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HGTrgTakaQsJ:www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Good-sense-or-bad-counsel-Rule-would-make-1174810.php+can+a+attorney+stand+up+in+court+and+tell+lies&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera&source=www.google.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

“…hurts me… she’s here to protect him… she‘s never protected me…
 she’s not even trying now… (Lawyer mentions giving Cindy a chance)
 She’s been given a chance for 3 years and did NOTHING…
 But now ya know it’s like she’s been given the chance… like every single day…"

 …away from them… and everyone will help him… and I can’t help who she’s with… I mean I can’t…”

 …that hurts so bad… she didn’t look at me once the entire time… (mumbles) …yeah, she did the other day…
 (shaking head at Baez) she’s not gonna fight for me… there’s no way…
 (wiping cheeks, shaking her head no) there’s no way for that, there’s no way for her…"

http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 11:47:29 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.
omg turbo thanks
this makes my day.

I don't know that is what it is, but it crossed my mind that an attorney can't stand up in court and tell blatant lies regardless of his motive. I am not sure what the consequences would be as we all know there are serious laws against slander, but there also may be legal consequences if he knowing the truth pursued a lie. We know there can be legal sanctions by the bar, but the way the Anthony attorney's use of words has me really curious as to what he has planned for bozo.

I found this
As it stands now in Washington, lawyers can't knowingly offer false information in court, and they can't put their client on the witness stand if they know the client will lie.



http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HGTrgTakaQsJ:www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Good-sense-or-bad-counsel-Rule-would-make-1174810.php+can+a+attorney+stand+up+in+court+and+tell+lies&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera&source=www.google.com

Well, there goes the theory she will take the stand becasue lying is like breathing to her.  She cannot not lie. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 11:53:58 AM
Does anybody know if JBP was present when Beotchface had her meltdown after Cindy left the stand jury left room?  If he were present, why wouldn't he do something or did he miss the meltdown?  I think he probably left for the 10 minute break already. 

Looks like he was leaving before the meltdown
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/bezleft.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 11:54:21 AM
Cindy Anthony does further the defence's theory of "accidental drowning" in the family pool when she claims that she put the ladder away on the evening of June 15th ... the ladder she apparently told co-workers that was found against the pool on June 17th.

Is the "co-worker" on the witness list?

Janet

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/28000319/detail.html


snip:
I would like to see Cindy/George recalled, to say if they ever left the ladder attached or not.

Jmo..  Possibly this was plan B for casey(blame the parents) if plan A didn't work, the nanny took Caylee. 
Why I say this, is casey is a VERY connniving, narcissistic,lieing person.
Made story's up all the time to FIX her life.

Casey knew eventually something had to be said about Caylee back in 08. 
Jmo..  Casey was hopping it wouldn't of been that soon, 31 days later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 11:54:31 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

“…hurts me… she’s here to protect him… she‘s never protected me…
 she’s not even trying now… (Lawyer mentions giving Cindy a chance)
 She’s been given a chance for 3 years and did NOTHING…
 But now ya know it’s like she’s been given the chance… like every single day…"

 …away from them… and everyone will help him… and I can’t help who she’s with… I mean I can’t…”

 …that hurts so bad… she didn’t look at me once the entire time… (mumbles) …yeah, she did the other day…
 (shaking head at Baez) she’s not gonna fight for me… there’s no way…
 (wiping cheeks, shaking her head no) there’s no way for that, there’s no way for her…"

http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/



This is a different part of the day, not the big meltdown from her mother.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 11:55:48 AM
Fit her life, not fix...sry ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: texasmom on May 29, 2011, 11:56:24 AM
For how long did casey lie about her "job" at Universal?

From April 2006
2 YEARS???? That's just proof of being a sociopathic liar in itself. I realize she was STEALING money -- but she had to have SOME kind of income..........................hooking? "films"??

I remembered this question from wreck while reading some documents.  The following is snipped from an email response regarding an inquiry into Casey's wage & hours records. 

Quote
Sorry about the late response but I was out yesterday. Her last place of employment is from the 1st quarter of 2006. She was working at Event Imaging Solutions, Inc. at 3201 East Colonial Drive, Orlando, FL 32803, Hope this helps! let me know if there is anything else you need.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/emails/employmentver.pdf

(it's about at the half way mark in the document, the actual wage statement is on the next page)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 12:07:59 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.

I think if they are going to sue for defamation it will be after the trial.

I think that Kronk will sue after the trial is over.

Heck, Baez is just getting started with the character smears..this could turn into a class action suit..lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:09:49 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA

What Rowan is talking about is a different portino of video.  She claerly is looking straight at the jurors, in the video that Rowan posted, flailing her pen around, making notes about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 12:12:08 PM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

“…hurts me… she’s here to protect him… she‘s never protected me…
 she’s not even trying now… (Lawyer mentions giving Cindy a chance)
 She’s been given a chance for 3 years and did NOTHING…
 But now ya know it’s like she’s been given the chance… like every single day…"

 …away from them… and everyone will help him… and I can’t help who she’s with… I mean I can’t…”

 …that hurts so bad… she didn’t look at me once the entire time… (mumbles) …yeah, she did the other day…
 (shaking head at Baez) she’s not gonna fight for me… there’s no way…
 (wiping cheeks, shaking her head no) there’s no way for that, there’s no way for her…"

http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/



thanks Blonde....pretty much what I read...I couldn't see anything that had to do with a juror....she was pizzed at Cindy clearly....I guess she really thought Cindy was going to back up her abuse story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:12:24 PM
Actually the video was posted by Northen, sorry about that.

Quote from: Northern Rose on May 29, 2011, 01:37:29 AM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 12:22:26 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA

What Rowan is talking about is a different portino of video.  She claerly is looking straight at the jurors, in the video that Rowan posted, flailing her pen around, making notes about it.

thanks...I went back and looked several times...still don't see it...but as I said...I lip guess, not lip read.  If this is true about juror #4, I say tough....they picked her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 12:24:02 PM
I just finished with the July 24,2008 interview GA did with OCSO..
How interesting.
They were discussing Bozo's love for the media then and how he lied to NG about LE not talking to him.
This was the GA puke interview. I couldnt find the video but he didn't puke after seeing pics of KC. He puked while waiting for Lee to get there so they could listen to the 911 tape before it was released.
If George was as honest in his GJ testimony as he seemed in this interview, now that I know more, Baez cant impeach his testimony that badly.
BTW, he never liked Bozo, never got straight answers from him
If you get a chance, reread it
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony072408.pdf (http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony072408.pdf)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 12:25:32 PM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?




http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/05/baez-lippman-and-scandalous-allegations/ (http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/05/baez-lippman-and-scandalous-allegations/)

wow that makes sense!  GREAT link!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:25:40 PM
And I know Cindy removed the ladder, know how?

I am a mom of a now 13yo daughter, 12 yo son and 11 yo son, so clearly capable grown up children.

Sometimes when they take a shower, they leave the tub with water in it.  When I go to bed I always go potty first.  Sometimes when I go potty, I see the tub has water in it.  Trillions of times I go to just pass it up and think I will empty it later.  Maybe it is OCD, but I always turn back around and go empty it now.  Clearly my kids would not drown in the tub, my kids laugh and say mom I won't drown in the tub.  You just never know.  I think well maybe one of them will hit their heads and be unconscious or something in the bathroom and they will drown in the tub.  I cannot leave the tub with even a little water in it.  Cindy would not leave the ladder by the pool ever.  I even envision my animals drowning in the tub.  maybe I am too anal and worry too much, but I think most mothers think about things like this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:27:37 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA

What Rowan is talking about is a different portino of video.  She claerly is looking straight at the jurors, in the video that Rowan posted, flailing her pen around, making notes about it.

thanks...I went back and looked several times...still don't see it...but as I said...I lip guess, not lip read.  If this is true about juror #4, I say tough....they picked her

I don't see any words either, but I do not even lip guess.  I just see her flailing her pen and it appears she is looking straight at the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 12:28:04 PM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/10909dfd.jpg)looks like gauze fabric is stuck to the duct tape


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:30:00 PM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/10909dfd.jpg)looks like gauze fabric is stuck to the duct tape

Could be. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 12:31:55 PM
Caylee's missing posters said she weighed 35 pounds.
Cindy said she was 38-40 inches tall


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 12:32:46 PM
I know that judge perry has dealt with many attorney but I am
sure he has never met one .. that he had to walk through everything step by step..like baez... he continues to do the opposite of what is required of him. no respect for authority/law and the judge.
a few times today.. during side bar he was not looking at the judge and the others.. he was looking around looking up and rolling his eyes in defiance very arrogantly..



Yep, definitely could be a real life "My Cousin Vinny".  Even if he's an idiot - he's had plenty enough time to research and prepare.  He was too busy soaking in the celebrity of it all.  I feel like John Hammond on Jurasic Park "I REALLY hate that man"!

I hate the entire defense team..they have all gone along with this series of lies tht Casey has told....they could have plead her out and refused.  That's their loss, their client is going to be found guilty. 

Baez opening statement started their mitigation for her..they want people to see her as damaged goods..therfore no needle, no LWOP. 2nd degree Manslaughter is what they are going for.

And now I would not expect any of their witnesses on the sentencing witness list to be favorable to their client.  Most are family and friends..and Baez burned those bridges On Tuesday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
About the ladder and if it was attached or not.
OT..I was 8 when we had an in ground pool installed with a 6 ft fence around it with 3 gates.
The 3 gates were ALWAYS locked in less one of my parents or older brother(11 years older then me) opened any. No one was allowed to go in, in less someone was with them.  Never alone.
NEVER once were they ever left open/unlocked.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 12:35:05 PM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/10909dfd.jpg)looks like gauze fabric is stuck to the duct tape

Blonde - duct tape does have fabric in it that is part of what makes it so strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Duct tape, or duck tape, is cloth or scrim-backed pressure sensitive tape often sealed with polyethylene. It is very similar to gaffer tape but differs in that gaffer tape was designed to be cleanly removed, while duct tape is not. It is generally silver or black but also available in other colors. With a standard width of 17⁄8 inches (48 mm), duct tape was originally developed in 1942 during World War II as a water-resistant sealing tape for ammunition cases.[1] Permacel, then a division of Johnson & Johnson, used a rubber-based adhesive to help the tape resist water and a fabric backing to add strength.[citation needed] It was also used to repair military equipment quickly, including jeeps, firearms, and aircraft because of these properties.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 12:37:01 PM
@20:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28058702/index.html

Cindy answers question about if she has looked for Zanny and for how long.  She is hesitant to answer she looked for her up until 6 weeks ago  then her body starts to shake.  You can really see the shaking in her hair.  I think she has slowly started to see how she was being played and agree that this was a very clear and public message that ICA was on her own with all her lies now.

Sorry I am so far behind.  Just watching the last of the videos now.

I never noticed that before. Thanks Northern Rose!



I thought she was nervous and jiggling her legs so hard the chair was shaking..

I thought Lordy, if Cindy starts jiggling and Judge Perry start jiggling at the same time their gonna shake down that whole section.
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:37:37 PM
Caylee's missing posters said she weighed 35 pounds.
Cindy said she was 38-40 inches tall


Okay, so IMO, one can handle a 35 pound 38-40 inch tall child w/o help.  I think about my own children at that age, and I could carry them to bury their body if I needed to. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
Excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor.

My neighbor just told me their vet gave them chloroform several years ago in Sarasota Florida to put their cat to sleep by themselves. 

Has anyone heard of this?  She was giving me her condolences my precious dog died 3 months ago and I found his ball in the backyard and was crying my eyes out.  She saw it and came over.  (I know this is off topic but he survived cancer thx to chemo & at 16 had heart failure - we had him in the doggy icu for a week and he lived another 6 months.)  I can't hear his name without crying & talk to him every day. 

How can this monster hear about her CHILD and not shed a tear?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: exlurker on May 29, 2011, 12:46:10 PM
if ICA really wanted her Mommy to stick by her, she should have accepted CA jail visits. she could have probably convinced CA to stick by her with her whining and sniveling and lying.  That was a stupid move on ICA's part.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:46:30 PM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/10909dfd.jpg)looks like gauze fabric is stuck to the duct tape

Blonde - duct tape does have fabric in it that is part of what makes it so strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Duct tape, or duck tape, is cloth or scrim-backed pressure sensitive tape often sealed with polyethylene. It is very similar to gaffer tape but differs in that gaffer tape was designed to be cleanly removed, while duct tape is not. It is generally silver or black but also available in other colors. With a standard width of 17⁄8 inches (48 mm), duct tape was originally developed in 1942 during World War II as a water-resistant sealing tape for ammunition cases.[1] Permacel, then a division of Johnson & Johnson, used a rubber-based adhesive to help the tape resist water and a fabric backing to add strength.[citation needed] It was also used to repair military equipment quickly, including jeeps, firearms, and aircraft because of these properties.

I was thinking maybe she put the chloro on a tissue or napkin?  The tissue would dissolve over time in the swamp, no?  I would still think parts would be stuck to the duct tape, but I don't know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:47:59 PM
Excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor.

My neighbor just told me their vet gave them chloroform several years ago in Sarasota Florida to put their cat to sleep by themselves. 

Has anyone heard of this?  She was giving me her condolences my precious dog died 3 months ago and I found his ball in the backyard and was crying my eyes out.  She saw it and came over.  (I know this is off topic but he survived cancer thx to chemo & at 16 had heart failure - we had him in the doggy icu for a week and he lived another 6 months.)  I can't hear his name without crying & talk to him every day. 

How can this monster hear about her CHILD and not shed a tear?

I don't know that sounds illegal, but maybe years ago it was not? 

Sorry about your doggy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 12:48:30 PM
Caylee's missing posters said she weighed 35 pounds.
Cindy said she was 38-40 inches tall


Okay, so IMO, one can handle a 35 pound 38-40 inch tall child w/o help.  I think about my own children at that age, and I could carry them to bury their body if I needed to. 

my daughter weighs 33.8 lbs and is 39" tall.  I'm 5 foot even and trust me when I say she's on my hip throughout the day.  I've even had 5 back surgeries.  I can carry her so I know someone could easily do something with Caylee's little body!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 12:51:36 PM
ZooMom - In my opinion, that is exactly what any degraded duct tape would look like whether it was ever on anything or not. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 12:54:10 PM
I stole this from here:  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137902&page=6


Yesterday, 04:25 PM 
MsFacetious 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Eyes 
I don't think it was any big accident that LDB showed those pictures in that order, and left the Caylee picture up all that time....I think that just in case CA had any last minute change of heart, she wanted to make sure Caylee was in the courtroom as much as Casey was.

But Cindy has Caylee's pictures on her bracelet... she isn't wearing a "Free Casey" Bracelet (if they exist.)

She is wearing a Caylee Memorial bracelet and a custom bracelet with pictures of Caylee. Caylee is in the courtroom with her...
 

Picture that was attached to this post.  Did anybody notice this?  I didn't.

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1799/caylee15.jpg) (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/caylee15.jpg/)

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Yes Brandi, yes Brandi posted that screen cap many pages back when I commented on the two bracelets..Brandi then put up the pic for us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
ZooMom - In my opinion, that is exactly what any degraded duct tape would look like whether it was ever on anything or not. 

Oh, I know.  but, my theory is she held chloroform on her face wtih duct tape, but she had to pour the chloroform onto something.  So, was trying to figure out what, since when they found her, there was nothing but the duct tape attached to her face and hair, so whatever she may have poured the chloroforom onto is not there anymore, if my theory was true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 01:02:14 PM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/10909dfd.jpg)looks like gauze fabric is stuck to the duct tape

Blonde - duct tape does have fabric in it that is part of what makes it so strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Duct tape, or duck tape, is cloth or scrim-backed pressure sensitive tape often sealed with polyethylene. It is very similar to gaffer tape but differs in that gaffer tape was designed to be cleanly removed, while duct tape is not. It is generally silver or black but also available in other colors. With a standard width of 17⁄8 inches (48 mm), duct tape was originally developed in 1942 during World War II as a water-resistant sealing tape for ammunition cases.[1] Permacel, then a division of Johnson & Johnson, used a rubber-based adhesive to help the tape resist water and a fabric backing to add strength.[citation needed] It was also used to repair military equipment quickly, including jeeps, firearms, and aircraft because of these properties.
Your right I didn't think of that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 29, 2011, 01:07:32 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA

Juror #4 is the black, female.....says she can't judge people because of her religious beliefs. If the DT is having an issue with her, they are screwed, blued, and tattooed....in other words......SUNK! ::MonkeyEek::

JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: OriginalKat on May 29, 2011, 01:07:47 PM
Casey has made TMZ this week and not the UK Daily Mail. She is the celebrity she wanted to be now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391914/Mother-Casey-Anthony-sheds-tears-stand-daughters-trial-death-year-old-Caylee.html (ftp://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391914/Mother-Casey-Anthony-sheds-tears-stand-daughters-trial-death-year-old-Caylee.html)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: OriginalKat on May 29, 2011, 01:08:19 PM
Casey has made TMZ this week and not the UK Daily Mail. She is the celebrity she wanted to be now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391914/Mother-Casey-Anthony-sheds-tears-stand-daughters-trial-death-year-old-Caylee.html (ftp://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391914/Mother-Casey-Anthony-sheds-tears-stand-daughters-trial-death-year-old-Caylee.html)


I meant "now" on the this post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 01:12:50 PM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven 
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Posts: 9,209 
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2

and an attorney on that show said that you can sue anyone, but that attorney statements made during a trial are "protected" and, therefore, it's very doubtful that a law suit would be doubtful it would be meritorious.



ITA with this attoreny..Baez would say that he was defending his client and in no way was in a position where he was required to prove the validity of tht statement other then his client's contention that it was in fact the truth.  Defense attorneys are not compelled to prove any statements they make in defense of their client..they're not compelled to prove the state wrong either..the burden of any proof of anything brought before the court is up to the State.

However Baez defense went too far ..it was too outlandish..which made it unbelievable..he should have stopped at it was a tragic accident that snowballed..and plead her out from there.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on May 29, 2011, 01:13:13 PM
Casey has made TMZ this week and not the UK Daily Mail. She is the celebrity she wanted to be now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391914/Mother-Casey-Anthony-sheds-tears-stand-daughters-trial-death-year-old-Caylee.html (ftp://http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391914/Mother-Casey-Anthony-sheds-tears-stand-daughters-trial-death-year-old-Caylee.html)


I meant "now" on the this post.

It's okay.  I totally know what you meant.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
Yesterday, 06:06 PM 
 smolea 
Registered User   Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 139 
 
ICA - (she covers her mouth)...she's protecting the man that hurt me. she's gonna sit here and protect him. she's never protected me, she's not even trying now."
DS - well she has to be given a chance, Casey...
ICA - she's been given the chance for three years, and she's done nothing!
DS - i know.
ICA - i mean, how can you say she hasn't been given the chance, she has a chance every single night.
DS - you're right, i was wrong...you're right, i was wrong.
(camera pans - cant read. DS covers her mouth)
ICA - enough to be aquitted, so i can get away from them 

Stolen from here:  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137902&page=8

Can KC be stupid enough to really think, after all that has been heard so far, she will be acquitted?

In a word..YES!
Remember Mason's belief that he would walk out of court with her on his arm?  They have been feeding her this belief..that they will do their best to get an acquital..I guess she's too dumb to realize they are not going for an acquital since they have been mitigating this case since the first day of the trial in their own opening statements..but the woman never did listen to what she doesn't want to hear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 01:22:26 PM
Yesterday, 06:06 PM 
 smolea 
Registered User   Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 139 
 
ICA - (she covers her mouth)...she's protecting the man that hurt me. she's gonna sit here and protect him. she's never protected me, she's not even trying now."
DS - well she has to be given a chance, Casey...
ICA - she's been given the chance for three years, and she's done nothing!
DS - i know.
ICA - i mean, how can you say she hasn't been given the chance, she has a chance every single night.
DS - you're right, i was wrong...you're right, i was wrong.
(camera pans - cant read. DS covers her mouth)
ICA - enough to be aquitted, so i can get away from them 

Stolen from here:  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137902&page=8

Can KC be stupid enough to really think, after all that has been heard so far, she will be acquitted?

In a word..YES!
Remember Mason's belief that he would walk out of court with her on his arm?  They have been feeding her this belief..that they will do their best to get an acquital..I guess she's too dumb to realize they are not going for an acquital since they have been mitigating this case since the first day of the trial in their own opening statements..but the woman never did listen to what she doesn't want to hear.

Remember, too, that she seems to be a sociopath - and she doesn't believe it's possible for her to be wrong.  It's going to be a severe wake up call when she is sentenced for this.  She'll hang on the hopes for an appeal.  Or mistrial.  But she wont' accept the truth.  Nor will she give it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 01:29:06 PM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 
Okay at the video mentioned above at the 10:30-10:32 mark it was about Juror number 4 who is that one again or do we know the Juror's number?  I can't make out anything else YET still working on it frame by frame.  Anyone else can piece together??  I know in the beginning she was talking to Bozo and said "Jose we have a problem" then can't make out the rest till the mark I indicated.

According to the FlaMom's links, #4 is the Farmville lady, right?

Quote from: flamom on May 29, 2011, 07:11:11 AM
I hope this helps
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery

and this one
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/

Out of all the jurors..I think Farmville lady who can't judge, is probably having the hardest time imaginable listening to the opeing statements from Baez, then seeing Slore's many nightclub pics, then listening to this parade of men who had sex with Casey, then listening to the lying Casey did, the stealing.

I think she went from I can't judge to..Do respectable woman live like this?  She may have facial expressions that show unease, discomfort, and disapproval at what she is hearing..can't blame her one bit.

Judge Perry is an excellant judge of character..has to be after all these years on the bench and everything he has seen and heard..all the types of people that have entered his courtroom..he knew Farmville lady could do this..and I think he is right....she ain't liking Miss Casey very much right now..and the defense can not do a damn thing about that. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 29, 2011, 01:32:09 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-is-jose-baez-pulling-a-columbo.html
Casey Anthony: Is Jose Baez pulling a Columbo?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on May, 29 2011 10:36 AM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 01:32:42 PM
I have been listening to all the videos of testimony that I missed due to work...ughhhh!!
I keep hearing referance to Tony's testimony about telling Casey that his appartment was not a good place for Caylee to be hanging out due to partying and such, but have as yet to find it...Can some kind monkey please point me in the right direction...such as day and time or something... they are all labelled as to day and maybe part 2 or 3 or something and most of the time they are out of order and I have spent alot of time looking for this particular testimony...
Thanks!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 01:39:21 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA
Let me post the link to the video I did in the previous post but what I lip read was NOT from this video that everyone else is talking about it's from another break in the court and during that break when they were standing up that's when she said  to Baez " we have a problem with juror number 4".  Let me post that link for ya.http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html) Starts at the 10:17 mark..and the Juror number 4 is at the 10:30 mark.  Hope that clears it up for ya..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 01:41:54 PM
I have been listening to all the videos of testimony that I missed due to work...ughhhh!!
I keep hearing referance to Tony's testimony about telling Casey that his appartment was not a good place for Caylee to be hanging out due to partying and such, but have as yet to find it...Can some kind monkey please point me in the right direction...such as day and time or something... they are all labelled as to day and maybe part 2 or 3 or something and most of the time they are out of order and I have spent alot of time looking for this particular testimony...
Thanks!!!

Gm cubbee...I hadn't seen that either...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 01:45:48 PM
We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool.  SOOOOO how did we find this huge amount of chloroform in the trunk..it just doesn't form out of thin air or we all would be having issues.  The bones of a decomposing body doesn't even register that amount..a trace amount YES but not to the levels of what Dr. Arpad said..he's the expert with test results to prove it!  So let's stop thinking that this "Accident" happened in the pool it didn't..move on to another theory BOZO I'm not Buying this one..I'm a SMART monkey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 01:46:21 PM
I have been listening to all the videos of testimony that I missed due to work...ughhhh!!
I keep hearing referance to Tony's testimony about telling Casey that his appartment was not a good place for Caylee to be hanging out due to partying and such, but have as yet to find it...Can some kind monkey please point me in the right direction...such as day and time or something... they are all labelled as to day and maybe part 2 or 3 or something and most of the time they are out of order and I have spent alot of time looking for this particular testimony...
Thanks!!!

Gm cubbee...I hadn't seen that either...


Maybe I have misunderstood and they are talking about his prior statements???? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 01:49:38 PM
Just dumping my thoughts -
Things that point to a possible accident -
Cindy has already given (deposition) testimony that when she returned home from work on Monday June 16th, the ladder was attached to the pool.
Between 4 and 5 pm on Monday June 16th, Casey tried frantically to get in touch with her mother and (I think) a couple of other people (several unsuccessful phone calls).  She was trying VERY hard to get hold of someone.

Things that point to murder -
Duct tape with heart sticker.
The fight that Cindy and Casey had on the evening of June 15th (which Cindy failed to mention yesterday but I think will come out) - killed Caylee out of spite?
Casey's diary entry
Casey partying and living it up.
Chloroform.
Neck breaking searches on her computer.

Things that point to Casey being EVIL and/or stupid, possibly both -
Claiming now that it was an accident, and that her dad is in on the coverup and that she lies because her dad molested her?????  I don't think there's a single person alive that believes that.

If they had showed up in court and opened by saying, "hey, it was an accident, Caylee drowned and Casey, who has the emotional maturity of a 7 year old, lied and covered it up rather than doing the right thing.  Once that ball started rolling, she felt she could not turn back" - I think everyone would have believed that and her death penalty problem would be solved. 

The fact that they showed up in court with this ridiculous new version of events just tells me that 1) she's guilty of murder and 2) Baez is more of an idiot than I ever dreamed.
One other thing that has been glossed over since the beginning, is that over at least a year or so prior to Caylee's death, there were numerous occasions where Casey claimed that Caylee was with the Nanny, but nobody really knows where she was during those times.  We know that there was no nanny.  I think that the evidence points to Casey "putting Caylee to sleep" so that she could have a life.  And I hope someone asks this question during the trial. 

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 29, 2011, 01:50:20 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28056128/index.html
'Flashpoint' -- 5/29/11
Local 6 News anchor Lauren Rowe covers the Casey Anthony murder trial on "Flashpoint."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 01:52:19 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA

Juror #4 is the black, female.....says she can't judge people because of her religious beliefs. If the DT is having an issue with her, they are screwed, blued, and tattooed....in other words......SUNK! ::MonkeyEek::

JMO
IMO I think life imprisonment without the possibility of parole would kill her more


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 01:54:11 PM
Blonde - I agree, life in prison will be very hard for Casey, harder than death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 01:54:34 PM
snipped


We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 01:56:28 PM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?

...  even if the opening statement are riddled with claims which have no foundation?

Could it be that defence does have a witness ... witnesses who will validate the disgusting/incriminating accusations within that openng statement?

Could it be that the author/s of those "psych evals" will be called as defence witnesses to substantiate Baez/Casey's claims?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html

Northern Rose

Janet Here is the problem with our laws in the US...due to the presumption of innocence of Casey the only people who have to prove anything in court is the prosecution...they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt she did this deed.  Believe me when I say I have the upmost faith that they will.

Unfortunately defense attorneys only job is to discredit the evidence, the character of the people testifying and then mitigate the sentencing phase.  Known of that has to deal with proofs..just innuendo to cause doubt. 

Do defense attorneys in this country lie?  Yes, they do everyday.  They get around that by saying that is what their client told them.  It is sad but true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 02:01:04 PM
Lee Anthony wants immunity before he completely cooperates with police and local prosecutors. My guestion is, will or should Lee Anthony be granted immunity from prostitution in exchange for his cooperation in helping authorities convict his sister Casey of murder?

The missing child case of Caylee Anthony which later turned into a murder investigation when her mother Casey Anthony was arrested has had many ups and downs over the past six month. In addition to Lee Anthony now asking for immunity before he fully cooperates with authorities, both Cindy and George Anthony also want immunity before they cooperate, as well.

Did he get it?

Yes he did..and by the looks of things George and Cindy probably were given immunity within the last 6 weeks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 02:02:50 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA
Let me post the link to the video I did in the previous post but what I lip read was NOT from this video that everyone else is talking about it's from another break in the court and during that break when they were standing up that's when she said  to Baez " we have a problem with juror number 4".  Let me post that link for ya.http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html) Starts at the 10:17 mark..and the Juror number 4 is at the 10:30 mark.  Hope that clears it up for ya..

thanks....I still can't 'read' it..I am not doubting you since you read lips....I don't...so I have to reply on others that do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 02:12:27 PM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.
omg turbo thanks
this makes my day.

I don't know that is what it is, but it crossed my mind that an attorney can't stand up in court and tell blatant lies regardless of his motive. I am not sure what the consequences would be as we all know there are serious laws against slander, but there also may be legal consequences if he knowing the truth pursued a lie. We know there can be legal sanctions by the bar, but the way the Anthony attorney's use of words has me really curious as to what he has planned for bozo.

I found this
As it stands now in Washington, lawyers can't knowingly offer false information in court, and they can't put their client on the witness stand if they know the client will lie.



http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HGTrgTakaQsJ:www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Good-sense-or-bad-counsel-Rule-would-make-1174810.php+can+a+attorney+stand+up+in+court+and+tell+lies&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera&source=www.google.com

Here's the real truth though..that's a nice law ..but ..defense lawyers lie everyday because they only have to defend with waht their clients tell them.  I defense attorney is not going to stand up in court and say my client lies, we all know this, therefore I couldn't figure out what to tell you because she lied to me.  They just proceed with what the client said, and say it is the client that told them that..they are under no obligation to check out the truth in those facts.

Also since 2 shrinks said Casey is mentally ill..which I vehemently disagree with..she has a personality disorder..sociopathy..which is not a mental illness, then he can say I had to go with what she told me and them..that's all we got from her to help defend her...it's convoluted at best.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 02:21:06 PM
The bottom line is...nothing can be done about what JB or other defense attorneys may say about another person......JB doesn't have to prove his statement...he planted the seed and hopes someone cultivated that seed.

A lawyer is typically protected as 'that which is said in court is protected.' Also, presuming that his client told him such things, then he is simply advocating a position on behalf of his client.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 02:22:08 PM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven 
proud mom of 3 beautiful daughters   Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,209 
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2

and an attorney on that show said that you can sue anyone, but that attorney statements made during a trial are "protected" and, therefore, it's very doubtful that a law suit would be doubtful it would be meritorious.



That makes no sense to me that you can come up and say anything about anybody without having proof or even submitting evidence of this in pretrial phase.  Maybe the lawyer would be doing it just for effec to show bozo they are going to bow down and take it, even if the slander law suit does not fly.  Maybe they are suing KC for slander, not Bozo?  Is that possible?

Remember, at the beginning and probably in the jury instructions at the end...the judge in all cases always reminds the jury that attorney's statements "are NOT testimony".



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 02:23:28 PM
snipped


We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 

When we had a pool we used BROMINE;
Here is a listing of the common chemicals associated with swimming pool use: CHLORINE; CYANURIC ACID; BROMINE; ALTERNATIVES TO CHLORINE ...



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 02:23:39 PM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/10909dfd.jpg)looks like gauze fabric is stuck to the duct tape

Blonde - duct tape does have fabric in it that is part of what makes it so strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Duct tape, or duck tape, is cloth or scrim-backed pressure sensitive tape often sealed with polyethylene. It is very similar to gaffer tape but differs in that gaffer tape was designed to be cleanly removed, while duct tape is not. It is generally silver or black but also available in other colors. With a standard width of 17⁄8 inches (48 mm), duct tape was originally developed in 1942 during World War II as a water-resistant sealing tape for ammunition cases.[1] Permacel, then a division of Johnson & Johnson, used a rubber-based adhesive to help the tape resist water and a fabric backing to add strength.[citation needed] It was also used to repair military equipment quickly, including jeeps, firearms, and aircraft because of these properties.

I was thinking maybe she put the chloro on a tissue or napkin?  The tissue would dissolve over time in the swamp, no?  I would still think parts would be stuck to the duct tape, but I don't know.

I hate to say this ..but I believe she used the syringe and shot Caylee up with the chloroform to put her to sleep and added the duct tape after she was unconscious to smother her.  Even a toddler would put up a heck of a fight to being duct taped like that..arms legs flaying away and screaming..I think she gave her a shot of chloroform
first and added the duct tape to make sure the job was done. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 02:23:51 PM
snipped


We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 

When we had a pool we used BROMINE;
Here is a listing of the common chemicals associated with swimming pool use: CHLORINE; CYANURIC ACID; BROMINE; ALTERNATIVES TO CHLORINE ...



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.


When we had a pool we used BROMINE;
Here is a listing of the common chemicals associated with swimming pool use: CHLORINE; CYANURIC ACID; BROMINE; ALTERNATIVES TO CHLORIN


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 02:26:25 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-is-jose-baez-pulling-a-columbo.html
Casey Anthony: Is Jose Baez pulling a Columbo?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on May, 29 2011 10:36 AM

My vote is for sloppy, unprepared lawyering.I think Bozo flies by the seat of his pants quite like KC. He took this case at first because it probably fell in his lap. When he saw opportunity to get TV and press exposure, plus trying a capital case to become certified or whatever lawyers get, he grabbed it. This has never been about providing a great defense for his client. He is a putz. They deserve each other.
BTW, on that video, I can clearly see KC say, Jose, we have a prblem as she is staring at the jury leaving. They are both repulsive to watch


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 02:26:54 PM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.
omg turbo thanks
this makes my day.

I don't know that is what it is, but it crossed my mind that an attorney can't stand up in court and tell blatant lies regardless of his motive. I am not sure what the consequences would be as we all know there are serious laws against slander, but there also may be legal consequences if he knowing the truth pursued a lie. We know there can be legal sanctions by the bar, but the way the Anthony attorney's use of words has me really curious as to what he has planned for bozo.

I found this
As it stands now in Washington, lawyers can't knowingly offer false information in court, and they can't put their client on the witness stand if they know the client will lie.



http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:HGTrgTakaQsJ:www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Good-sense-or-bad-counsel-Rule-would-make-1174810.php+can+a+attorney+stand+up+in+court+and+tell+lies&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera&source=www.google.com

Here's the real truth though..that's a nice law ..but ..defense lawyers lie everyday because they only have to defend with waht their clients tell them.  I defense attorney is not going to stand up in court and say my client lies, we all know this, therefore I couldn't figure out what to tell you because she lied to me.  They just proceed with what the client said, and say it is the client that told them that..they are under no obligation to check out the truth in those facts.

Also since 2 shrinks said Casey is mentally ill..which I vehemently disagree with..she has a personality disorder..sociopathy..which is not a mental illness, then he can say I had to go with what she told me and them..that's all we got from her to help defend her...it's convoluted at best.

Mentally ill?  I didn't hear that..I heard that she's "deeply disturbed".  She has a personality disorder for sure.  At this point, under Florida law, Baez can't change and say that KC's mentally ill.  Law doesn't allow it.  KC know right from wrong; therefore, she could never be considered mentally ill in a court of law.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 02:28:00 PM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/10909dfd.jpg)looks like gauze fabric is stuck to the duct tape

Blonde - duct tape does have fabric in it that is part of what makes it so strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Duct tape, or duck tape, is cloth or scrim-backed pressure sensitive tape often sealed with polyethylene. It is very similar to gaffer tape but differs in that gaffer tape was designed to be cleanly removed, while duct tape is not. It is generally silver or black but also available in other colors. With a standard width of 17⁄8 inches (48 mm), duct tape was originally developed in 1942 during World War II as a water-resistant sealing tape for ammunition cases.[1] Permacel, then a division of Johnson & Johnson, used a rubber-based adhesive to help the tape resist water and a fabric backing to add strength.[citation needed] It was also used to repair military equipment quickly, including jeeps, firearms, and aircraft because of these properties.

I was thinking maybe she put the chloro on a tissue or napkin?  The tissue would dissolve over time in the swamp, no?  I would still think parts would be stuck to the duct tape, but I don't know.

I hate to say this ..but I believe she used the syringe and shot Caylee up with the chloroform to put her to sleep and added the duct tape after she was unconscious to smother her.  Even a toddler would put up a heck of a fight to being duct taped like that..arms legs flaying away and screaming..I think she gave her a shot of chloroform
first and added the duct tape to make sure the job was done. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Gypsy - that's exactly what I think, too!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 02:32:43 PM
I hope no one ever has to go through my computer. I have done so many searches that would raise suspicions, such as the chloroform, personality disroder, google earth searches, etc   ::MonkeyHaHa::
You can inject chloroform but it would most likely kill.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 02:36:28 PM
Or new theory, I just thought of.

She puts Caylee to sleep in trunk.  Caylee dies.  i think the duct tape maybe held the chloro on her face while she slept, but this rag or whatever chloro was on underneath the duct tape, would it have disolved.  anyway, she find Caylee dead.  OMG what am I going to do.  I will make it look like she drowned.  Goes gets ladder, carried Caylee into pool (but I would think she owuld have taken the duct tape off here, unless she forgot to), goes to get phone to call mom, dad, whoever else frantically, but fails to get in touch with them, and then puts her in the playhouse. 

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/10909dfd.jpg)looks like gauze fabric is stuck to the duct tape

Blonde - duct tape does have fabric in it that is part of what makes it so strong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Duct tape, or duck tape, is cloth or scrim-backed pressure sensitive tape often sealed with polyethylene. It is very similar to gaffer tape but differs in that gaffer tape was designed to be cleanly removed, while duct tape is not. It is generally silver or black but also available in other colors. With a standard width of 17⁄8 inches (48 mm), duct tape was originally developed in 1942 during World War II as a water-resistant sealing tape for ammunition cases.[1] Permacel, then a division of Johnson & Johnson, used a rubber-based adhesive to help the tape resist water and a fabric backing to add strength.[citation needed] It was also used to repair military equipment quickly, including jeeps, firearms, and aircraft because of these properties.

I was thinking maybe she put the chloro on a tissue or napkin?  The tissue would dissolve over time in the swamp, no?  I would still think parts would be stuck to the duct tape, but I don't know.

I hate to say this ..but I believe she used the syringe and shot Caylee up with the chloroform to put her to sleep and added the duct tape after she was unconscious to smother her.  Even a toddler would put up a heck of a fight to being duct taped like that..arms legs flaying away and screaming..I think she gave her a shot of chloroform
first and added the duct tape to make sure the job was done. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Gypsy - that's exactly what I think, too!



I found this syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,4673834.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 29, 2011, 02:38:47 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-is-jose-baez-pulling-a-columbo.html
Casey Anthony: Is Jose Baez pulling a Columbo?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on May, 29 2011 10:36 AM

My vote is for sloppy, unprepared lawyering.I think Bozo flies by the seat of his pants quite like KC. He took this case at first because it probably fell in his lap. When he saw opportunity to get TV and press exposure, plus trying a capital case to become certified or whatever lawyers get, he grabbed it. This has never been about providing a great defense for his client. He is a putz. They deserve each other.
BTW, on that video, I can clearly see KC say, Jose, we have a prblem as she is staring at the jury leaving. They are both repulsive to watch

flamom.....yep, I agree.....KC clearly says "we have a problem" when the jury is leaving! Bozo was twitching like a whip on crack!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 02:44:09 PM
I think KC tried to set up several scenarios that she hoped LE would follow and not her:

I think she used a syringe she found in Jesse's apartment to give KC the chloroform. (Remember the syringe also had trace amounts of steroids in it). Reason why syringe was found at the scene.  Chances are good she got some of Jesse's hair when she was in his bathroom, too.  KC could have planted hair in the car/trunk - if so, that was foiled by Cindy's cleaning out the car. 

KC left the car at Amscot, including her purse, Caylee's car seat and "mama" doll.  Set up for thinking that they were abducted.

There was a third option I've been thinking about and, darn it, it's slipping my mind right now.  ha.

None of KC's tactics worked because too much points to her.  All her massive, in-depth LIES to everyone and for YEARS!  Caylee's Winnie the Pooh blanket (classic sign of a mother killing their child is to wrap them in something like their blanket), etc.  She did it and after 3 years, still no remorse.  She is simply incapable of remorse.  Hard for the rest of us to understand and accept.  It would be even harder for the parents, G&C, to understand and accept.

On the stand yesterday, Linda asked if Cindy had continued to look for the babysitter.  Cindy hesitated and it was obvious that she was emotional and said: up until 6 weeks ago.  What happened 6 weeks ago to change Cindy's mind after 3 years?  That's when the defense team informed the A's that they were coming after the family as being guilty in all of this.  Cindy has stood by KC all these years.  However, when confronted with the fact that KC gave her attorneys to destroy the family, Cindy chose to protect Lee, George and herself.  When Cindy said up until 6 weeks ago in court, that was her message to KC and KC got it loud and clear.  Cindy's comments were backed-up by not looking at KC.  KC knew that mom was going to protect the family and not her....that was the reason for KC's meltdown in court.  Shows KC extreme disorder:  she stole $48,000 from mom over time, she made it known that she is going to destroy the family in court, hasn't looked at mom in court in years with the exception of a couple of times, hasn't allowed mom to visit her in years; yet, KC thinks mom should just go against the entire family for her. 

I say that KC has met her Waterloo and it's Cindy.   Oh, add in a little Tony Lazzaro, too, because he let the world know that he knew nothing of George sexually molesting KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 02:45:39 PM
::snipping2::
I found this syringe in bottle contained traces of chloroform
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,4673834.story

Another reference:
"At the scene where investigators found Caylee Anthony’s remains, they recovered a Disney bag that contained a Cool Blue Gatorade bottle. Even after the six months from time Caylee was last seen alive and the time her remains were found, the bottle contained a liquid that still smelled of household chemicals and a used syringe."  (more at the following site)
http://www.wftv.com/news/21573563/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
snipped


We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 

When we had a pool we used BROMINE;
Here is a listing of the common chemicals associated with swimming pool use: CHLORINE; CYANURIC ACID; BROMINE; ALTERNATIVES TO CHLORINE ...



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.

Tks so much Blonde.......I did look it up.Problems With the Swimming Pool Chemical Bromine...
http://www.ehow.com/way_5714639_problems-swimming-pool-chemical-bromine.html

Jmo I don't think whats in the pool would be bought up in trial.
tks again.... ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 02:50:33 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 02:52:06 PM
Was it ever established that the syringe came from Jesse's apartment? I dont remember that at all


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 02:52:58 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?

the reason I'm asking is that the duct tape that had covered Caylee's little face has one hole in it.  It makes me wonder if she didn't put the duct tape on to keep Caylee quiet, and then had a hole through which she used a syringe to give more chloroform to keep Caylee continuously dosed?  A syringe could effectively distribute chloroform into small spaces if there was no needle, including just soaking under the tap - no rag needed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 02:53:26 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-is-jose-baez-pulling-a-columbo.html
Casey Anthony: Is Jose Baez pulling a Columbo?
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on May, 29 2011 10:36 AM

My vote is for sloppy, unprepared lawyering.I think Bozo flies by the seat of his pants quite like KC. He took this case at first because it probably fell in his lap. When he saw opportunity to get TV and press exposure, plus trying a capital case to become certified or whatever lawyers get, he grabbed it. This has never been about providing a great defense for his client. He is a putz. They deserve each other.
BTW, on that video, I can clearly see KC say, Jose, we have a prblem as she is staring at the jury leaving. They are both repulsive to watch

flamom.....yep, I agree.....KC clearly says "we have a problem" when the jury is leaving! Bozo was twitching like a whip on crack!

Ha ha ha .... a great visual.

Mr. Baez now know that KC, the liar, has lied to him as well.  Surprise! Surprise!

Baez throw it all in for the defense - other attorney commentators told us that this was a very risky defense - all or nothing.

Only 4.5 days into the trial and it's officially "NOTHING"!    It's a BUST!    The balloon has BURST!

I heard on Court Day 1, after opening arguments, Mark NeJame on Ch. 6 said:  Mr. Baez's opening is a BUST.  It's SO bad that the defense will not be able to overcome this opening.  The defense will slowly crumble away from this point.  NeJame was questioned if he really thought that.  NeJame was "adament".  Said that this was so bad the defense won't be able to overcome it.

I was struck by NeJame's words.  I was a little skeptical that the opening was SO bad (I knew it was bad - but if it worked, it was great).  It didn't even take one full week of trial to prove NeJame CORRECT.  NeJame his the mark on the first court day.

My-oh-my - what's going to happen going forward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 02:57:43 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?

the reason I'm asking is that the duct tape that had covered Caylee's little face has one hole in it.  It makes me wonder if she didn't put the duct tape on to keep Caylee quiet, and then had a hole through which she used a syringe to give more chloroform to keep Caylee continuously dosed?  A syringe could effectively distribute chloroform into small spaces if there was no needle, including just soaking under the tap - no rag needed.

http://www.blingcheese.com/image/code/79/chloroform.htm

Picture above of syringe - you can see that the needle is still attached and the cover is over the needle.

The syringe was found in a Gatorade bottle - within in it's packaging and inside a toilet paper roll.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGW_ENUS407&=&q=casey+anthony+gatorade+bottle&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=669


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 03:04:27 PM
I hope no one ever has to go through my computer. I have done so many searches that would raise suspicions, such as the chloroform, personality disroder, google earth searches, etc   ::MonkeyHaHa::
You can inject chloroform but it would most likely kill.

Yes it would..and the duct tape was to insure she would be dead if she had not used enough in the syringe.

Did she make the chloroform in the trunk..or maybe left the container in the trunk and it spilled or leaked out? 

IDK..but we have a tunk liner with Chloroform, we have a Gatorade bottle with chloroform, we have a syringe with chloroform....and we have a dead toddler.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 03:05:35 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?

the reason I'm asking is that the duct tape that had covered Caylee's little face has one hole in it.  It makes me wonder if she didn't put the duct tape on to keep Caylee quiet, and then had a hole through which she used a syringe to give more chloroform to keep Caylee continuously dosed?  A syringe could effectively distribute chloroform into small spaces if there was no needle, including just soaking under the tap - no rag needed.

http://www.blingcheese.com/image/code/79/chloroform.htm

Picture above of syringe - you can see that the needle is still attached and the cover is over the needle.

The syringe was found in a Gatorade bottle - within in it's packaging and inside a toilet paper roll.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGW_ENUS407&=&q=casey+anthony+gatorade+bottle&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=669


Thank you so much for this!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 03:07:15 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:08:27 PM
Was it ever established that the syringe came from Jesse's apartment? I dont remember that at all

Not to my knowledge.  It has been "assumed" that "could be" where it came from because KC made that strange trip to his apartment for a shower and she was in his bathroom AND that the syring, besides traces of chloroform, it also had traces of steriods in the needle.  The needle was used twice.

Other speculation was that possibly there was a needle in the home, because of Cindy being a nurse.

Most speculation was on Jesse's, though, because of the steroids.

Also, once wind of this was out, Jesse's dad went on a full-frontal attack and told the world that his son was being set up for Caylee's death.  Such a ridiculous thing, considering how much Jessee loved Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



Yes, we haven't even gotten to the physical evidence yet.  It will be digusting to hear about all that - but necessary.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:09:55 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?

the reason I'm asking is that the duct tape that had covered Caylee's little face has one hole in it.  It makes me wonder if she didn't put the duct tape on to keep Caylee quiet, and then had a hole through which she used a syringe to give more chloroform to keep Caylee continuously dosed?  A syringe could effectively distribute chloroform into small spaces if there was no needle, including just soaking under the tap - no rag needed.

http://www.blingcheese.com/image/code/79/chloroform.htm

Picture above of syringe - you can see that the needle is still attached and the cover is over the needle.

The syringe was found in a Gatorade bottle - within in it's packaging and inside a toilet paper roll.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGW_ENUS407&=&q=casey+anthony+gatorade+bottle&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=669


Thank you so much for this!

starwynn - YW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 03:12:52 PM
Thank you Puzzler..so much to keep track of..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:14:18 PM
I hope no one ever has to go through my computer. I have done so many searches that would raise suspicions, such as the chloroform, personality disroder, google earth searches, etc   ::MonkeyHaHa::
You can inject chloroform but it would most likely kill.

Yes it would..and the duct tape was to insure she would be dead if she had not used enough in the syringe.

Did she make the chloroform in the trunk..or maybe left the container in the trunk and it spilled or leaked out? 

IDK..but we have a tunk liner with Chloroform, we have a Gatorade bottle with chloroform, we have a syringe with chloroform....and we have a dead toddler.

Yep.  And that trunk liner, IIRC, test resulted in traces of chloroform 10,000 times higher than normal test samples a lab uses.

As much of an irritant as Nancy Grace can be, I remember at the time this was made public knowledge, NG went on-and-on about the amount of chloroform and how this killed the baby!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 03:14:39 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/2-16-10e.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:15:17 PM
Thank you Puzzler..so much to keep track of..

YW - we each remember certain parts - that's why it's so good to have SM, a place we can put our collective thoughts.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 03:15:24 PM
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We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 

When we had a pool we used BROMINE;
Here is a listing of the common chemicals associated with swimming pool use: CHLORINE; CYANURIC ACID; BROMINE; ALTERNATIVES TO CHLORINE ...



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.

Tks so much Blonde.......I did look it up.Problems With the Swimming Pool Chemical Bromine...
http://www.ehow.com/way_5714639_problems-swimming-pool-chemical-bromine.html

Jmo I don't think whats in the pool would be bought up in trial.
tks again.... ::monkeywine2::

I think it will come into the trial at the evidence phase because during the Frye hearings IRRC Baez did say that a bathing suit left in the trunk would/could have caused the chlorofrom in the trunk...since the A's didn't use chorine in the pool no chloroform should have been on Caylee's suit or in the trunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:16:09 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/2-16-10e.jpg)

Blonde - TY

I was just remember that a color photo showed the light brown liquid in the syringe (but didn't find a picture of it).



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:16:52 PM
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We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 

When we had a pool we used BROMINE;
Here is a listing of the common chemicals associated with swimming pool use: CHLORINE; CYANURIC ACID; BROMINE; ALTERNATIVES TO CHLORINE ...



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.

Tks so much Blonde.......I did look it up.Problems With the Swimming Pool Chemical Bromine...
http://www.ehow.com/way_5714639_problems-swimming-pool-chemical-bromine.html

Jmo I don't think whats in the pool would be bought up in trial.
tks again.... ::monkeywine2::

I think it will come into the trial at the evidence phase because during the Frye hearings IRRC Baez did say that a bathing suit left in the trunk would/could have caused the chlorofrom in the trunk...since the A's didn't use chorine in the pool no chloroform should have been on Caylee's suit or in the trunk.

Agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bikerbev on May 29, 2011, 03:17:05 PM
Also, once wind of this was out, Jesse's dad went on a full-frontal attack and told the world that his son was being set up for Caylee's death.  Such a ridiculous thing, considering how much Jessee loved Caylee.
*bolded by me
And here we thought Jesse was gonna be the scapegoat....ironic it has turned out to be George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 03:20:05 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?

the reason I'm asking is that the duct tape that had covered Caylee's little face has one hole in it.  It makes me wonder if she didn't put the duct tape on to keep Caylee quiet, and then had a hole through which she used a syringe to give more chloroform to keep Caylee continuously dosed?  A syringe could effectively distribute chloroform into small spaces if there was no needle, including just soaking under the tap - no rag needed.

Omg, what a terrible thought..sickening....sry. If this comes out as true, casey is truly a monster of all monsters.  Mommy dearest...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: wreck on May 29, 2011, 03:22:33 PM
I'm the one that has been bringing up the notion that an attorney cannot lie or knowingly put his client on the stand to lie. I realize this is very difficult to prove as MOST attornies will instruct their client at the very first meeting to NEVER "tell" them if they really did it! I think in this case, Baez is really walking a thin line and seems to have concocted this story himself to attempt to explain wild circumstanses to loosely evolve around the evidence collected. I don't think casey is smart enough to fit all of this herself. What could eventually get Baez in trouble is vengeful casey actually throwing Baez under the bus upon her conviction. She will say: "It was all his own story -- not mine"! -- JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:23:18 PM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven 
proud mom of 3 beautiful daughters   Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,209 
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2

and an attorney on that show said that you can sue anyone, but that attorney statements made during a trial are "protected" and, therefore, it's very doubtful that a law suit would be doubtful it would be meritorious.



ITA with this attoreny..Baez would say that he was defending his client and in no way was in a position where he was required to prove the validity of tht statement other then his client's contention that it was in fact the truth.  Defense attorneys are not compelled to prove any statements they make in defense of their client..they're not compelled to prove the state wrong either..the burden of any proof of anything brought before the court is up to the State.

However Baez defense went too far ..it was too outlandish..which made it unbelievable..he should have stopped at it was a tragic accident that snowballed..and plead her out from there.   

Yep.  Too far.  Like Mark NeJame said:  The opening statement was "SO bad"!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 03:25:43 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



I didn't know what  grave wax was/is....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:27:02 PM
Has anyone found any lip readings of the other break that was taken @ 10:00 http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html  ?  At one point ICA is so pizzed she is flayling her pen through the air like a pirate with a sword against an imaginary opponent.  To me it looks like they are commenting about the jurors.

No idea.  Maybe one of them looked at her funny and she did not like it.  i guess she wants them not to look at her. 

I swear, if this hobag is not found guilty, I am moving to Iraq or something. 
Okay at the video mentioned above at the 10:30-10:32 mark it was about Juror number 4 who is that one again or do we know the Juror's number?  I can't make out anything else YET still working on it frame by frame.  Anyone else can piece together??  I know in the beginning she was talking to Bozo and said "Jose we have a problem" then can't make out the rest till the mark I indicated.

According to the FlaMom's links, #4 is the Farmville lady, right?

Quote from: flamom on May 29, 2011, 07:11:11 AM
I hope this helps
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery

and this one
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/

Out of all the jurors..I think Farmville lady who can't judge, is probably having the hardest time imaginable listening to the opeing statements from Baez, then seeing Slore's many nightclub pics, then listening to this parade of men who had sex with Casey, then listening to the lying Casey did, the stealing.

I think she went from I can't judge to..Do respectable woman live like this?  She may have facial expressions that show unease, discomfort, and disapproval at what she is hearing..can't blame her one bit.

Judge Perry is an excellant judge of character..has to be after all these years on the bench and everything he has seen and heard..all the types of people that have entered his courtroom..he knew Farmville lady could do this..and I think he is right....she ain't liking Miss Casey very much right now..and the defense can not do a damn thing about that. ::MonkeyDevil::

And just think...this is just week one....so many more weeks to go and so much physical evidence to cover.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:30:30 PM
We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool.  SOOOOO how did we find this huge amount of chloroform in the trunk..it just doesn't form out of thin air or we all would be having issues.  The bones of a decomposing body doesn't even register that amount..a trace amount YES but not to the levels of what Dr. Arpad said..he's the expert with test results to prove it!  So let's stop thinking that this "Accident" happened in the pool it didn't..move on to another theory BOZO I'm not Buying this one..I'm a SMART monkey!

Right...right...right!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on May 29, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



This was interesting to read..

The transformation of fats into adipocere occurs best in the absence of oxygen in a cold and humid environment, such as in wet ground or mud at the bottom of a lake or a sealed casket, and it can occur with both embalmed and untreated bodies. Adipocere formation begins within a month of death, and in the absence of air it can persist for centuries.[3] An exposed, infested body or a body in a warm environment is unlikely to form deposits of adipocere.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.[1] In forensic science, the utility of adipocere formation to estimate the postmortem interval is limited because the speed of the process is temperature-dependent. It is accelerated by warmth, but temperature extremes impede it.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bikerbev on May 29, 2011, 03:33:24 PM
Sorry if this has been posted:  http://www.wkbn.com/mostpopular/story/Valley-Family-of-Casey-Anthony-Says-Defense/qZN8_xgNcE-in7Kj7BPiGw.cspx

It's George's sister and brother-in law.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 03:35:01 PM


And just think...this is just week one....so many more weeks to go and so much physical evidence to cover.

I can't wait for that to start.....I have faith the forensics will prove there is no doubt that there is only one person who could have killed Caylee......her mother! I believe it will leave no room for 'reasonable' doubt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 03:35:21 PM
We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool.  SOOOOO how did we find this huge amount of chloroform in the trunk..it just doesn't form out of thin air or we all would be having issues.  The bones of a decomposing body doesn't even register that amount..a trace amount YES but not to the levels of what Dr. Arpad said..he's the expert with test results to prove it!  So let's stop thinking that this "Accident" happened in the pool it didn't..move on to another theory BOZO I'm not Buying this one..I'm a SMART monkey!

Right...right...right!



It's no accident if the state can prove it.  I sure hope so.

Bottom line, no gives a child Chloroform by accident. 
Doesn't that show "intent"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 03:37:16 PM
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/
goodmorning monkeys! I slept in ...much needed sleep after a whole week of early wakeup's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 03:38:02 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



Yes..Casey is quite the ghoul..the body was leaking grave wax by the time it was placed back in the trunk or taken from the trunk and wrapped..whichever theory you go with..the dead body of that child was in the trunk at approximately 2.8 days (iirc) post mortem..they can tell by the coffin flies and the grave wax.

This means that Casey was handling the body at some point while it was in serious decomp..thus the triple bagging, the laundry hamper and the trunk liner stained by her form and leaking decomp fluids. 

Casey is the one who was the ghoul, running hither and yon between her parents and Suburban transporting her daughter with her body fluids leaking and the fat of her body turned to grave wax leaking out onto the trunk liner, prior to the triple bagging.  I always thought she murdered her, placed her in the playhouse under the pavers..came back a few days later and noticed the body was decomposing and decided to triple bag her and take her to Suburban Dr.  I don't think she realized how bad the car was going to smell..even after she attempted to clean up the trunkliner herself...long before the car was towed.  She placed fabric softener dryer sheets in the car to try to mask the odor..when that didn't work she ditiched the car at Amscot by a dumpster. ::MonkeyShocked::

I agree with Puzzler that she had various situations planned..the car at Amscot always led me to believe that she was hoping someone would steal the car and then abandon the car and their fingerprints would be all over it.  When that didn't happen she started on the Nanny at Sawgrass story, then the Nanny with the sister in the park story..now we hear the accidental drowning story with the added twist of George's involvement...I still wonder if that was her embellishment or if Baez and Mason couched her into that portion.  IDK..George has been on her chit list since his GJ testimony anyway..so I guess she assumed this was a payback of sorts to him. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 03:38:32 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/2-16-10e.jpg)

Blonde - TY

I was just remember that a color photo showed the light brown liquid in the syringe (but didn't find a picture of it).


the needle is missing the ... vitta bella! engraved  on it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 03:39:42 PM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?

...  even if the opening statement are riddled with claims which have no foundation?

Could it be that defence does have a witness ... witnesses who will validate the disgusting/incriminating accusations within that openng statement?

Could it be that the author/s of those "psych evals" will be called as defence witnesses to substantiate Baez/Casey's claims?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html

Northern Rose

Janet Here is the problem with our laws in the US...due to the presumption of innocence of Casey the only people who have to prove anything in court is the prosecution...they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt she did this deed.  Believe me when I say I have the upmost faith that they will.

Unfortunately defense attorneys only job is to discredit the evidence, the character of the people testifying and then mitigate the sentencing phase.  Known of that has to deal with proofs..just innuendo to cause doubt. 

Do defense attorneys in this country lie?  Yes, they do everyday.  They get around that by saying that is what their client told them.  It is sad but true.

In fact, judges will tell jurys that the attorneys statements are NOT evidence and are not to be considered as evidence in reaching their decisions.  Attorneys in opening statements lay out what they intend to produce during the trial.  Baez laid out that George has been sexually abusing Casey since she was 8 years old.  George has already denied that.  Only person left to prove that is KC.  Already, the prosecution has shown beyond all doubt that KC lies about everything to everyone.  KC is already impeached as to any statements she may make if she takes the stand. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 03:43:03 PM
Was it ever established that the syringe came from Jesse's apartment? I dont remember that at all

Not to my knowledge.  It has been "assumed" that "could be" where it came from because KC made that strange trip to his apartment for a shower and she was in his bathroom AND that the syring, besides traces of chloroform, it also had traces of steriods in the needle.  The needle was used twice.

Other speculation was that possibly there was a needle in the home, because of Cindy being a nurse.

Most speculation was on Jesse's, though, because of the steroids.

Also, once wind of this was out, Jesse's dad went on a full-frontal attack and told the world that his son was being set up for Caylee's death.  Such a ridiculous thing, considering how much Jessee loved Caylee.


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/The%20Anthony%20Saga%20Players/ruscianoanthony.jpg)
Rusciano, Anthony “Tony”
– Rookie cop, friend of Jesse Grund, who got fired for having an affair
with Casey and lying about it. Jesse met Tony at police academy.
Another cop was involved with Casey but his name is unknown at this
time. During a phone conversation, his name came up as being connected
to Casey. Initially he said he’d met her once at a party but since then
has stated that he lied. He said he lied about knowing Casey because he
was afraid. Gave another story, then added to it. http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564670.pdf
Met Casey when he went to firing range with Jesse Grund; Casey and
Caylee met them afterwards at the Subway. Jesse and Casey had dated but
were back together. Tony became MySpace and Facebook friends with
Casey. He was dating someone else, but they broke up December 7, and
within a couple of weeks, he and Casey went to the Ale House.
Afterwards they had sex at his apartment. Did not have contact for a
couple of months other than IM, Facebook, or MySpace (about a dozen
messages between February and May). She mentioned her new boyfriend.
Around end of May, they had sex again. Does not recall any mention of a
nanny; when he was with Casey it was always her mom who had Caylee but
in IMs, Casey talks of the nanny coming back from Tampa (her sister was
getting married this weekend). This was possibly May 7; hard to tell
from the transcript. It was to this Tony that Casey made a one-time reference to Caylee as “the little snot face.”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 03:45:07 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/2-16-10e.jpg)

Blonde - TY

I was just remember that a color photo showed the light brown liquid in the syringe (but didn't find a picture of it).


the needle is missing the ... vitta bella! engraved  on it

Here is a link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 29, 2011, 03:47:52 PM
If it is Juror #4, she is probably realizing there is a difference between weighing the facts and the evidence and judging based on opinion.  It can be a real eye-opener and I am hoping she will see the difference.
 ::justice2NJ::

Just catching up and a ittle behind. Sister, I agree that this is an eye-opener for Farmville lady. The defence threw a whole lot "judging based on hearsay" into the mix with the opening statement. She is being asked to judge George now based on just what the defense says. This may make it easier for her to judge KC since the original "judgee" (KC) is also doing finger pointing. She can look at it as not judging but deciding on which side is telling the truth. I hope she may decide that the defendant's finger-pointing is the type she abhors the most, and may look upon KC more harshly for it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 29, 2011, 03:55:43 PM
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We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 

When we had a pool we used BROMINE;
Here is a listing of the common chemicals associated with swimming pool use: CHLORINE; CYANURIC ACID; BROMINE; ALTERNATIVES TO CHLORINE ...



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.

Tks so much Blonde.......I did look it up.Problems With the Swimming Pool Chemical Bromine...
http://www.ehow.com/way_5714639_problems-swimming-pool-chemical-bromine.html

Jmo I don't think whats in the pool would be bought up in trial.
tks again.... ::monkeywine2::

The Anthony's used NON-chlorine products in their pool!
Even if they use chlorine products, it could not be the reason for the off the chart levels of chloroform found in KC's car trunk.
The levels were 10,000x the normal expected.....in fact Dr. Vass has never tested anything with that high concentration of chloroform in his decade+ years of testing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 04:08:03 PM
i was thinking of tony l's testimony. He said the molestation never happened. Than baez comes back to him and says in caseys reality it did. I wonder what casey was thinking. It dipicted her as an insane whacked out evil wench. How did she feel that tony heard those words discribing her.
I am sure she felt humiliated to hear baez speak of her like that to her man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 29, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
The bottom line is...nothing can be done about what JB or other defense attorneys may say about another person......JB doesn't have to prove his statement...he planted the seed and hopes someone cultivated that seed.

A lawyer is typically protected as 'that which is said in court is protected.' Also, presuming that his client told him such things, then he is simply advocating a position on behalf of his client.

Thank you SunnyinTX!  Warning long post ahead.

I have been thinking about this ever since the trial started. I hated what bozo said and the way he said it about George.  I have felt sick listening to bozo question everyone that has been placed on the stand so far.  Cindy and George have been practicing for trial probably since they got their new atty Lipman. Who by the way has been able to shut them up in the public eye. I have to say I do not believe George knew Caylee drowned or hid her body any more then I believe that Roy Kronk had anything to do with it either. Nor do I buy the sexual abuse that bozo says George did to Casey. For the first time in the last few years I have actually felt sorry for George and Cindy. So I began asking myself why I felt sorry for them after all this time. The only reason I can come up with is because of the very public and nasty way it was presented. That is what I didn't like.

But how much different is that from what the Anthony's have been doing to everyone one involved in this case including people that Casey ever knew and people she didn't know? They Anthony's dragging in all these young people saying they could have done something to Caylee. Blaming everyone but Casey. Some of the people have had to move, change their phone numbers and hire attorney's. All of them were called into the Sheriff's office and questioned. Now with the trial on they have to disrupt their lives once again for Casey. Look what they did to Zenaida. Cindy's emails to Dominic Casey trying to tie the Grunds to Roy Kronk. They had no problem trying to point the blame on everyone and anyone they could except Casey.

The Anthony's started their deception with the cleaning of the car.
They opened up Foundations, collected donations from people, took advantage of Tim Miller. Continued to lie and abuse person after person for the news media to film. Cindy back tracking everything she says in the 911 calls. All their media "cameo's". And why? Because the only person that everything pointed to was their daughter Casey.

If they could have pinned this on anyone they would have. I am done feeling sorry for the Anthony's. After they have lied and lied just like Casey has lied and lied I can find little to feel sorry for them about. They just met someone who is sneakier, smarter and has legal standing and a bigger voice than they have and that is BOZO and his clowns.
Bozo is right there is something wrong with this family, all of them. I say Karma is a Bitch and it has come home to the Anthony's. I think whatever bozo dishes out the them they deserve what they get. Even if it is not true. Bozo lies and lies also and we have seen that over and over again too.

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 04:30:02 PM
Good Morning all! Just wanted to refresh everyone on psychopaths since that is what Casey is. Everyone, if you have a moment please read what's at the link. The first section as it begins reads Profile of the Sociopath(same as psychopath!) in particular the last sentence in this section really caught my eye: Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution, changes life story readily. i can see Casey in every single word of this, i so wish the pros could prove that casey is a sociopath i just don't know how they could,  http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html   


   





I had to change computers, i still can't do alot of things on the laptop, anyway, here's the first part i was talking about:
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.



Glibness and Superficial Charm


Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.


Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."


Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.


Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.


Incapacity for Love


Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.


Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.  
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Wow, KC fits all these descriptions - usually one only has to exibit signs of a certain portion of the know descriptions...KC, however, IMO, fits them all = deeply disturbed.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 29, 2011, 04:34:48 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO



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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 04:35:10 PM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?

...  even if the opening statement are riddled with claims which have no foundation?

Could it be that defence does have a witness ... witnesses who will validate the disgusting/incriminating accusations within that openng statement?

Could it be that the author/s of those "psych evals" will be called as defence witnesses to substantiate Baez/Casey's claims?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html

Northern Rose

Janet Here is the problem with our laws in the US...due to the presumption of innocence of Casey the only people who have to prove anything in court is the prosecution...they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt she did this deed.  Believe me when I say I have the upmost faith that they will.

Unfortunately defense attorneys only job is to discredit the evidence, the character of the people testifying and then mitigate the sentencing phase.  Known of that has to deal with proofs..just innuendo to cause doubt. 

Do defense attorneys in this country lie?  Yes, they do everyday.  They get around that by saying that is what their client told them.  It is sad but true.

In fact, judges will tell jurys that the attorneys statements are NOT evidence and are not to be considered as evidence in reaching their decisions.  Attorneys in opening statements lay out what they intend to produce during the trial.  Baez laid out that George has been sexually abusing Casey since she was 8 years old.  George has already denied that.  Only person left to prove that is KC.  Already, the prosecution has shown beyond all doubt that KC lies about everything to everyone.  KC is already impeached as to any statements she may make if she takes the stand. 



I might add that even if Casey testifies on her own behalf & puts forward that her father sexually molested her it does NOT make it a FACT, it doesnt PROVE anything.   Just because she alleges she was sexually molested to a mental health professional she was while in jail awaiting trial for felony murder does not make it a fact or prove anything either.  There would be no eyewitness to Casey's allegations, if that were the case they would have brought that forward just shy of three years ago.   If it was an "accident," same thing they would have begged for a plea to be offered & spilled everything, the fact that Casey & her defense didnt makes the claim now totally absurd.  There is no way that self-absorbed narcissistic sociopath with what I also believe to be traits of having a borderline personality disorder would be sitting in jail for 3 years & taking the fall for anyone else in any manner whatsoever, she would have been blowing a gasket like we've seen her do many times.  Casey spoke in her jail visits with her parents claiming them to be the best grandparents, in a conversation to her father she also stated that he was the best father she has ever met & that it she meant it straight from the heart, o yes she did.  The moment she were to make that claim Tony's testimony by way of proffer will come in & he testified that Casey NEVER told him that her father sexually abused her.   If my memory serves she made similar allegations about Lee, her brother to Jesse - not her father.   If that is what he testifies to & another proffer is made, that too would come in to discredit her allegations.  According to what we heard during a pretrial hearing, the doctors whom the defense were going to call were withdrawn.   Regardless, whatever disorders Casey does indeed have she knows the difference between right & wrong as well as goes thru great lengths to cover up her despicable acts which shows presence of mind.   Bottom line, she's a cold, calculated, self-absorbed skanky evil witch and cares about nothing or no one other than herself.

They are using this to explain why she feared telling anyone about an "accident" and also trying to claim that she may have threatened her father to tell if he didnt help her dispose of Caylee...its ludicrous & Caylee didnt die by "accident."   It does not explain the chloroform in Casey's car & her father did not have possession of that car from the 16th forward.   Her father went to work by 2:30PM on the 16th, in fact he never answered her calls, nor did her mother probably due to their fight the night before.  The Anthonys did not use chlorine based items for their pool maintenance.  Even way back in a Greta On the Record (Fox) interview Cindy discusses that there was no way there was an "accident" in the pool. 

The Anthonys may have been enablers to Casey's behavior, they may have even been idiots to worry about what people would think more than dealing with Casey's actions even prior to Caylee's murder nor without flaws themselves.  We've all witnessed why the Anthonys can be villainized  for their deplorable conduct while protecting their daughter after the fact but for that very reason it makes Casey's accusations even more deplorable.

Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone & God bless our troops past, present & future.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blue Moon on May 29, 2011, 04:35:24 PM
The bottom line is...nothing can be done about what JB or other defense attorneys may say about another person......JB doesn't have to prove his statement...he planted the seed and hopes someone cultivated that seed.

A lawyer is typically protected as 'that which is said in court is protected.' Also, presuming that his client told him such things, then he is simply advocating a position on behalf of his client.

Thank you SunnyinTX!  Warning long post ahead.

I have been thinking about this ever since the trial started. I hated what bozo said and the way he said it about George.  I have felt sick listening to bozo question everyone that has been placed on the stand so far.  Cindy and George have been practicing for trial probably since they got their new atty Lipman. Who by the way has been able to shut them up in the public eye. I have to say I do not believe George knew Caylee drowned or hid her body any more then I believe that Roy Kronk had anything to do with it either. Nor do I buy the sexual abuse that bozo says George did to Casey. For the first time in the last few years I have actually felt sorry for George and Cindy. So I began asking myself why I felt sorry for them after all this time. The only reason I can come up with is because of the very public and nasty way it was presented. That is what I didn't like.

But how much different is that from what the Anthony's have been doing to everyone one involved in this case including people that Casey ever knew and people she didn't know? They Anthony's dragging in all these young people saying they could have done something to Caylee. Blaming everyone but Casey. Some of the people have had to move, change their phone numbers and hire attorney's. All of them were called into the Sheriff's office and questioned. Now with the trial on they have to disrupt their lives once again for Casey. Look what they did to Zenaida. Cindy's emails to Dominic Casey trying to tie the Grunds to Roy Kronk. They had no problem trying to point the blame on everyone and anyone they could except Casey.

The Anthony's started their deception with the cleaning of the car.
They opened up Foundations, collected donations from people, took advantage of Tim Miller. Continued to lie and abuse person after person for the news media to film. Cindy back tracking everything she says in the 911 calls. All their media "cameo's". And why? Because the only person that everything pointed to was their daughter Casey.

If they could have pinned this on anyone they would have. I am done feeling sorry for the Anthony's. After they have lied and lied just like Casey has lied and lied I can find little to feel sorry for them about. They just met someone who is sneakier, smarter and has legal standing and a bigger voice than they have and that is BOZO and his clowns.
Bozo is right there is something wrong with this family, all of them. I say Karma is a Bitch and it has come home to the Anthony's. I think whatever bozo dishes out the them they deserve what they get. Even if it is not true. Bozo lies and lies also and we have seen that over and over again too.

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI




Carol, you have put into words what I could not.  Although I do not believe anything Bozo spilled in  his opening statements something really bothered me about feeling sorry for the A's.  You laid it out for me.  It was the fact of all the things they have done to anyone and everyone who has come into contact with KC.  This is about Caylee and her picture should not be taken down in that courtroom.  It needs to be on the screen at all times as a reminder.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 29, 2011, 04:36:16 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO



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Sorry.  I was responding to CarolF.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 04:37:28 PM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven  
proud mom of 3 beautiful daughters   Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,209  
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2

Well, bozo better step it up a notch or his butt is in serious trouble. How is he going to prove it? Is the skank going to take the stand? Even if she did WHO in heck would believe her since everything brought out in this trial she told people was all a lie?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 04:38:47 PM
We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool.  SOOOOO how did we find this huge amount of chloroform in the trunk..it just doesn't form out of thin air or we all would be having issues.  The bones of a decomposing body doesn't even register that amount..a trace amount YES but not to the levels of what Dr. Arpad said..he's the expert with test results to prove it!  So let's stop thinking that this "Accident" happened in the pool it didn't..move on to another theory BOZO I'm not Buying this one..I'm a SMART monkey!

Right...right...right!



No one here would ever believe the pool story because we know way too much about this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 29, 2011, 04:40:23 PM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven  
proud mom of 3 beautiful daughters   Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,209  
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2

Well, bozo better step it up a notch or his butt is in serious trouble. How is he going to prove it? Is the skank going to take the stand? Even if she did WHO in heck would believe her since everything brought out in this trial she told people was all a lie?

She did it.  They have no defense.  This is BS and everyone knows it.  Even Baez acting like a drama queen was repulsive.  I can not imagine a juror falling for this crap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 04:41:30 PM
snipped


We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.
NO of course the pool that the Anthony's had wasn't Salt Water...the chemicals that they used were chlorine free products which if you look on the evidence inventory that they took from the home and look up that product you will see that it is chlorine free.  The Hinky Meter did an article on this and I can't seem to find it..I've been looking but I know I read it at the Hinky Meter and if you look at the Police forms you'll see it.  I'll still poke around to see if I can find links to direct you..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 04:43:12 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



This was interesting to read..

The transformation of fats into adipocere occurs best in the absence of oxygen in a cold and humid environment, such as in wet ground or mud at the bottom of a lake or a sealed casket, and it can occur with both embalmed and untreated bodies. Adipocere formation begins within a month of death, and in the absence of air it can persist for centuries.[3] An exposed, infested body or a body in a warm environment is unlikely to form deposits of adipocere.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.[1] In forensic science, the utility of adipocere formation to estimate the postmortem interval is limited because the speed of the process is temperature-dependent. It is accelerated by warmth, but temperature extremes impede it.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

The grave wax was why I thought she stuck her in the freezer for a few days after she couldn't dig a hole for her in the back yard. The first time she backed into the garage, I think she was going to try to bury her and maybe did stick her in the sandbox with the top on it or the playhouse, but then decided that wasn't a good idea and stuck her in their freezer. Easy to do if they had a lot of food. Just remove the food and put all back on top of her in the garbage bags. Then when she backed in the second time get her out and put her in the trunk to dump her. That would account for the fast decomp and the grave way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
Good Morning!
Juror 4 is the SBF who doesnt like to judge people
Intresting being that's what I lip read coming from Casey's mouth that they have a problem with Juror number 4 
?


Ro, do you lip read?  I lip guess ::MonkeyWink:: and not very well. However I have read several accounts of what KC might have been bawling about and none mention anything about juror4....all seem to go with KC was upset that Cindy didn't look her way and that KC said Cindy was standing by GA
Let me post the link to the video I did in the previous post but what I lip read was NOT from this video that everyone else is talking about it's from another break in the court and during that break when they were standing up that's when she said  to Baez " we have a problem with juror number 4".  Let me post that link for ya.http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/28059008/index.html) Starts at the 10:17 mark..and the Juror number 4 is at the 10:30 mark.  Hope that clears it up for ya..

thanks....I still can't 'read' it..I am not doubting you since you read lips....I don't...so I have to reply on others that do.
Okay let me first clear up I'm NOT a lip reader..sorry if you took it that way.  I just took frame by frame and watched what she was saying and you can see her lips forming the words..of course I am human and do error so I invite anyone else to give it a try and see what they come up with..again sorry for misleading you I didn't mean to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 04:46:55 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/2-16-10e.jpg)

Blonde - TY

I was just remember that a color photo showed the light brown liquid in the syringe (but didn't find a picture of it).


the needle is missing the ... vitta bella! engraved  on it

The needle is still on this syringe above. I have an evidence picture and I believe it is the same picture. I will try to find it and post it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 04:47:18 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO

[/quote]

We all do not condone their previous conduct & agree they need to reap what they sow for that, but these accusations Casey & her defense are putting forward go beyond the pale even for them.  We all would be devastated & pretty disgusted if these horrendous allegations were lodged against us whether we are completely upstanding or have flaws of our own.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 04:48:35 PM
The bottom line is...nothing can be done about what JB or other defense attorneys may say about another person......JB doesn't have to prove his statement...he planted the seed and hopes someone cultivated that seed.

A lawyer is typically protected as 'that which is said in court is protected.' Also, presuming that his client told him such things, then he is simply advocating a position on behalf of his client.

Thank you SunnyinTX!  Warning long post ahead.

I have been thinking about this ever since the trial started. I hated what bozo said and the way he said it about George.  I have felt sick listening to bozo question everyone that has been placed on the stand so far.  Cindy and George have been practicing for trial probably since they got their new atty Lipman. Who by the way has been able to shut them up in the public eye. I have to say I do not believe George knew Caylee drowned or hid her body any more then I believe that Roy Kronk had anything to do with it either. Nor do I buy the sexual abuse that bozo says George did to Casey. For the first time in the last few years I have actually felt sorry for George and Cindy. So I began asking myself why I felt sorry for them after all this time. The only reason I can come up with is because of the very public and nasty way it was presented. That is what I didn't like.

But how much different is that from what the Anthony's have been doing to everyone one involved in this case including people that Casey ever knew and people she didn't know? They Anthony's dragging in all these young people saying they could have done something to Caylee. Blaming everyone but Casey. Some of the people have had to move, change their phone numbers and hire attorney's. All of them were called into the Sheriff's office and questioned. Now with the trial on they have to disrupt their lives once again for Casey. Look what they did to Zenaida. Cindy's emails to Dominic Casey trying to tie the Grunds to Roy Kronk. They had no problem trying to point the blame on everyone and anyone they could except Casey.

The Anthony's started their deception with the cleaning of the car.
They opened up Foundations, collected donations from people, took advantage of Tim Miller. Continued to lie and abuse person after person for the news media to film. Cindy back tracking everything she says in the 911 calls. All their media "cameo's". And why? Because the only person that everything pointed to was their daughter Casey.

If they could have pinned this on anyone they would have. I am done feeling sorry for the Anthony's. After they have lied and lied just like Casey has lied and lied I can find little to feel sorry for them about. They just met someone who is sneakier, smarter and has legal standing and a bigger voice than they have and that is BOZO and his clowns.
Bozo is right there is something wrong with this family, all of them. I say Karma is a Bitch and it has come home to the Anthony's. I think whatever bozo dishes out the them they deserve what they get. Even if it is not true. Bozo lies and lies also and we have seen that over and over again too.

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI




Thank you.  I'm listening to George's interview with the sheriff.  I had forgotten that the very first thing George is concerned with is Cindy.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 04:49:32 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO


We all do not condone their previous conduct & agree they need to reap what they sow for that, but these accusations Casey & her defense are putting forward go beyond the pale even for them.  We all would be devastated & pretty disgusted if these horrendous allegations were lodged against us whether we are completely upstanding or have flaws of our own.
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Agree.  I would be so overwhelmed!  WHAT to do?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 29, 2011, 04:50:05 PM
The jury already heard the OS. Damage done. I don't believe any of it, but that is me.
They didn't hear Tony L's testimony and we don't know if they will hear that part of his testimony about the non abuse.
If Lippman's motion is what Hornsby thinks it is, there will be no more about it.
Lippman knew what avenue the defense was going to take, why wasn't this motion filed before ?
I still think that George and Cindy are still helping her in a more obtuse and smarter way.
I want to be wrong, but I can't see Cindy telling it like it was, pre June 15 in that house.
The fights, the conning Cindy into babysitting so she could go to her non job. The spending of Cindy's money, the no consequences for Casey. I think Cindy and George put up with it because they wanted Caylee to live there,and the price was what Casey spent out of Cindy's accounts.
Cindy was great on that stand yesterday, but really what did she testify to ? Nothing that isn't public knowledge.
The jury also didn't see that melt down at the end.
........
On another note, does anyone know the dates when George wasn't living on Hopespring ?
George was off work for quite a while, he would have been at home in the am to babysit  Caylee until Casey got home from her non job.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 04:51:33 PM
Here are some from the evidence released.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/23961870682880-16061224.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/23961871689200-16061222.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/23961870318840-16061236.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/23961871409720-16061218.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 04:51:51 PM
snipped


We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool. 

When we had a pool we used BROMINE;
Here is a listing of the common chemicals associated with swimming pool use: CHLORINE; CYANURIC ACID; BROMINE; ALTERNATIVES TO CHLORINE ...



Was the A's pool a salt water pool?
My parent's pool in the 1950's was a chlorinated chemical pool.

Tks so much Blonde.......I did look it up.Problems With the Swimming Pool Chemical Bromine...
http://www.ehow.com/way_5714639_problems-swimming-pool-chemical-bromine.html

Jmo I don't think whats in the pool would be bought up in trial.
tks again.... ::monkeywine2::

I think it will come into the trial at the evidence phase because during the Frye hearings IRRC Baez did say that a bathing suit left in the trunk would/could have caused the chloroform in the trunk...since the A's didn't use chlorine in the pool no chloroform should have been on Caylee's suit or in the trunk.
BIG THANK YOU to Gypsy DD   This is why I was bringing up this issue because Bozo here was claiming that the chlorine caused the chloroform in the truck..so I was happy to see you back me up here on that issue and about no chlorine in the pool!!  Thanks again..I knew I was a SMART MONKEY and wasn't going to have any of Bozo Caccu mannie stories he was pushing around to taint others and the jurors!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 29, 2011, 04:53:04 PM
No idea if this is true, but.....


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Well, bozo better step it up a notch or his butt is in serious trouble. How is he going to prove it? Is the skank going to take the stand? Even if she did WHO in heck would believe her since everything brought out in this trial she told people was all a lie?

If this is true, then something is hinky with the A's . Lippman knows that this type of case would go nowhere because Baez is protected, no matter what he said at trial. So why go through all the fuss and bother? Methinks they doth protest too much. Maybe it's to try to hammer home that the A's don't get along with Baez, trying to eliminate any suspicion that they maybe working towards the same end, while at the same time making George look like a victim. But I think this would be overkill, a symptom of a coverup.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 04:55:06 PM
Has anyone found the July 24th video ? I have been searching like crazy. The written word isnt as good as seeing and hearing it. George had to go puke because Yuri and JA gave him a reality check. I believe George knew Caylee was dead all along but went along with Cindy because she was losing her mind. Remember how much weight she lost, so fast? and her zombie interview where George had to do all the talking.. I also think another part of her felt she could still 'fix' this ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 04:55:11 PM
Snip....... ::snipping2::



I might add that even if Casey testifies on her own behalf & puts forward that her father sexually molested her it does NOT make it a FACT, it doesnt PROVE anything.   Just because she alleges she was sexually molested to a mental health professional she was while in jail awaiting trial for felony murder does not make it a fact or prove anything either.  There would be no eyewitness to Casey's allegations, if that were the case they would have brought that forward just shy of three years ago.   If it was an "accident," same thing they would have begged for a plea to be offered & spilled everything, the fact that Casey & her defense didnt makes the claim now totally absurd.  There is no way that self-absorbed narcissistic sociopath with what I also believe to be traits of having a borderline personality disorder would be sitting in jail for 3 years & taking the fall for anyone else in any manner whatsoever, she would have been blowing a gasket like we've seen her do many times.  Casey spoke in her jail visits with her parents claiming them to be the best grandparents, in a conversation to her father she also stated that he was the best father she has ever met & that it she meant it straight from the heart, o yes she did.  The moment she were to make that claim Tony's testimony by way of proffer will come in & he testified that Casey NEVER told him that her father sexually abused her.   If my memory serves she made similar allegations about Lee, her brother to Jesse - not her father.   If that is what he testifies to & another proffer is made, that too would come in to discredit her allegations.  According to what we heard during a pretrial hearing, the doctors whom the defense were going to call were withdrawn.   Regardless, whatever disorders Casey does indeed have she knows the difference between right & wrong as well as goes thru great lengths to cover up her despicable acts which shows presence of mind.   Bottom line, she's a cold, calculated, self-absorbed skanky evil witch and cares about nothing or no one other than herself.

They are using this to explain why she feared telling anyone about an "accident" and also trying to claim that she may have threatened her father to tell if he didnt help her dispose of Caylee...its ludicrous & Caylee didnt die by "accident."   It does not explain the chloroform in Casey's car & her father did not have possession of that car from the 16th forward.   Her father went to work by 2:30PM on the 16th, in fact he never answered her calls, nor did her mother probably due to their fight the night before.  The Anthonys did not use chlorine based items for their pool maintenance.  Even way back in a Greta On the Record (Fox) interview Cindy discusses that there was no way there was an "accident" in the pool. 

The Anthonys may have been enablers to Casey's behavior, they may have even been idiots to worry about what people would think more than dealing with Casey's actions even prior to Caylee's murder nor without flaws themselves.  We've all witnessed why the Anthonys can be villainized  for their deplorable conduct while protecting their daughter after the fact but for that very reason it makes Casey's accusations even more deplorable.

Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone & God bless our troops past, present & future.

Tks..... ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 04:55:38 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on May 29, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
We all have to remember that we are playing right into the defense's hand..They WANT us talking about the ACCIDENT in the pool..cause it's a plausible ideal but we SMART MONKEYS have to remember that this pool defense DOESN'T explain the Chloroform.  The Anthony's didn't use Chlorinated chemicals in their pool.  SOOOOO how did we find this huge amount of chloroform in the trunk..it just doesn't form out of thin air or we all would be having issues.  The bones of a decomposing body doesn't even register that amount..a trace amount YES but not to the levels of what Dr. Arpad said..he's the expert with test results to prove it!  So let's stop thinking that this "Accident" happened in the pool it didn't..move on to another theory BOZO I'm not Buying this one..I'm a SMART monkey!

Right...right...right!



No one here would ever believe the pool story because we know way too much about this case.
Thanks Turbo and Puzzler but there was someone here that was questioning about the pool and I thought I'd just throw in my 2 cents and bring it back to the evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 04:56:38 PM
Here are some from the evidence released.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/23961870682880-16061224.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/23961871689200-16061222.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/23961870318840-16061236.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/23961871409720-16061218.jpg)
This one too..
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/23961870126900-16061232.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Jose Baez - he does not like the guy, first thought he was court appointed

Baez has previously handled worker's comp





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:02:47 PM
Blonde - TY

Great evidence pictures


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:06:02 PM
The jury already heard the OS. Damage done. I don't believe any of it, but that is me.
They didn't hear Tony L's testimony and we don't know if they will hear that part of his testimony about the non abuse.
If Lippman's motion is what Hornsby thinks it is, there will be no more about it.
Lippman knew what avenue the defense was going to take, why wasn't this motion filed before ?
I still think that George and Cindy are still helping her in a more obtuse and smarter way.
I want to be wrong, but I can't see Cindy telling it like it was, pre June 15 in that house.
The fights, the conning Cindy into babysitting so she could go to her non job. The spending of Cindy's money, the no consequences for Casey. I think Cindy and George put up with it because they wanted Caylee to live there,and the price was what Casey spent out of Cindy's accounts.
Cindy was great on that stand yesterday, but really what did she testify to ? Nothing that isn't public knowledge.
The jury also didn't see that melt down at the end.
........
On another note, does anyone know the dates when George wasn't living on Hopespring ?
George was off work for quite a while, he would have been at home in the am to babysit  Caylee until Casey got home from her non job.

IMO, what Cindy showed is the length and breadth and detail of the lies that KC made to Cindy to keep Cindy from seeing or talking to Caylee "after" June 16.  Very important foundation being laid for the prosecution to work from in bringing in the physical evidence and then drawing conclusions for the jury during closing arguments.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 29, 2011, 05:08:52 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



This was interesting to read..

The transformation of fats into adipocere occurs best in the absence of oxygen in a cold and humid environment, such as in wet ground or mud at the bottom of a lake or a sealed casket, and it can occur with both embalmed and untreated bodies. Adipocere formation begins within a month of death, and in the absence of air it can persist for centuries.[3] An exposed, infested body or a body in a warm environment is unlikely to form deposits of adipocere.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.[1] In forensic science, the utility of adipocere formation to estimate the postmortem interval is limited because the speed of the process is temperature-dependent. It is accelerated by warmth, but temperature extremes impede it.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

The grave wax was why I thought she stuck her in the freezer for a few days after she couldn't dig a hole for her in the back yard. The first time she backed into the garage, I think she was going to try to bury her and maybe did stick her in the sandbox with the top on it or the playhouse, but then decided that wasn't a good idea and stuck her in their freezer. Easy to do if they had a lot of food. Just remove the food and put all back on top of her in the garbage bags. Then when she backed in the second time get her out and put her in the trunk to dump her. That would account for the fast decomp and the grave way.
...
ITA .. The freezer in the garage. Also wasn't there THC on that paper towel ? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:10:22 PM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?

...  even if the opening statement are riddled with claims which have no foundation?

Could it be that defence does have a witness ... witnesses who will validate the disgusting/incriminating accusations within that openng statement?

Could it be that the author/s of those "psych evals" will be called as defence witnesses to substantiate Baez/Casey's claims?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html

Northern Rose

Janet Here is the problem with our laws in the US...due to the presumption of innocence of Casey the only people who have to prove anything in court is the prosecution...they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt she did this deed.  Believe me when I say I have the upmost faith that they will.

Unfortunately defense attorneys only job is to discredit the evidence, the character of the people testifying and then mitigate the sentencing phase.  Known of that has to deal with proofs..just innuendo to cause doubt. 

Do defense attorneys in this country lie?  Yes, they do everyday.  They get around that by saying that is what their client told them.  It is sad but true.

In fact, judges will tell jurys that the attorneys statements are NOT evidence and are not to be considered as evidence in reaching their decisions.  Attorneys in opening statements lay out what they intend to produce during the trial.  Baez laid out that George has been sexually abusing Casey since she was 8 years old.  George has already denied that.  Only person left to prove that is KC.  Already, the prosecution has shown beyond all doubt that KC lies about everything to everyone.  KC is already impeached as to any statements she may make if she takes the stand. 



I might add that even if Casey testifies on her own behalf & puts forward that her father sexually molested her it does NOT make it a FACT, it doesnt PROVE anything.   Just because she alleges she was sexually molested to a mental health professional she was while in jail awaiting trial for felony murder does not make it a fact or prove anything either.  There would be no eyewitness to Casey's allegations, if that were the case they would have brought that forward just shy of three years ago.   If it was an "accident," same thing they would have begged for a plea to be offered & spilled everything, the fact that Casey & her defense didnt makes the claim now totally absurd.  There is no way that self-absorbed narcissistic sociopath with what I also believe to be traits of having a borderline personality disorder would be sitting in jail for 3 years & taking the fall for anyone else in any manner whatsoever, she would have been blowing a gasket like we've seen her do many times.  Casey spoke in her jail visits with her parents claiming them to be the best grandparents, in a conversation to her father she also stated that he was the best father she has ever met & that it she meant it straight from the heart, o yes she did.  The moment she were to make that claim Tony's testimony by way of proffer will come in & he testified that Casey NEVER told him that her father sexually abused her.   If my memory serves she made similar allegations about Lee, her brother to Jesse - not her father.   If that is what he testifies to & another proffer is made, that too would come in to discredit her allegations.  According to what we heard during a pretrial hearing, the doctors whom the defense were going to call were withdrawn.   Regardless, whatever disorders Casey does indeed have she knows the difference between right & wrong as well as goes thru great lengths to cover up her despicable acts which shows presence of mind.   Bottom line, she's a cold, calculated, self-absorbed skanky evil witch and cares about nothing or no one other than herself.

They are using this to explain why she feared telling anyone about an "accident" and also trying to claim that she may have threatened her father to tell if he didnt help her dispose of Caylee...its ludicrous & Caylee didnt die by "accident."   It does not explain the chloroform in Casey's car & her father did not have possession of that car from the 16th forward.   Her father went to work by 2:30PM on the 16th, in fact he never answered her calls, nor did her mother probably due to their fight the night before.  The Anthonys did not use chlorine based items for their pool maintenance.  Even way back in a Greta On the Record (Fox) interview Cindy discusses that there was no way there was an "accident" in the pool. 

The Anthonys may have been enablers to Casey's behavior, they may have even been idiots to worry about what people would think more than dealing with Casey's actions even prior to Caylee's murder nor without flaws themselves.  We've all witnessed why the Anthonys can be villainized  for their deplorable conduct while protecting their daughter after the fact but for that very reason it makes Casey's accusations even more deplorable.

Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone & God bless our troops past, present & future.

WRT KC taking the stand and accusing George....IMO....any testimony by KC has already been impeached by the prosecution's parade of friends and Cindy to show how KC lies to everyone about everything; therefore, KC cannont believed.  Also, "if" KC gets on the stand and accuses George, that would meet the criteria Judge Perry says has to be met to bring in Tony's proffer and for it to be heard by the jury.  Tony saying that KC never told her that her father sexually molested her further impeaches KC's accusations.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:12:30 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



This was interesting to read..

The transformation of fats into adipocere occurs best in the absence of oxygen in a cold and humid environment, such as in wet ground or mud at the bottom of a lake or a sealed casket, and it can occur with both embalmed and untreated bodies. Adipocere formation begins within a month of death, and in the absence of air it can persist for centuries.[3] An exposed, infested body or a body in a warm environment is unlikely to form deposits of adipocere.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.[1] In forensic science, the utility of adipocere formation to estimate the postmortem interval is limited because the speed of the process is temperature-dependent. It is accelerated by warmth, but temperature extremes impede it.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

The grave wax was why I thought she stuck her in the freezer for a few days after she couldn't dig a hole for her in the back yard. The first time she backed into the garage, I think she was going to try to bury her and maybe did stick her in the sandbox with the top on it or the playhouse, but then decided that wasn't a good idea and stuck her in their freezer. Easy to do if they had a lot of food. Just remove the food and put all back on top of her in the garbage bags. Then when she backed in the second time get her out and put her in the trunk to dump her. That would account for the fast decomp and the grave way.
...
ITA .. The freezer in the garage. Also wasn't there THC on that paper towel ? 

Back then, I remember many times questioning "why" LE isn't checking out the freezer.  Arrrgh!


 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 05:16:14 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.  We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Scatty on May 29, 2011, 05:18:28 PM
Another thing about Bozo's opening statement that was just dumb: he threw so many claims in there, stated as facts, that if a juror disbelieves even one part of that story, or finds the evidence contradicts a part, then the rest of the story will also have to be considered a lie. If they disbelieve the accidental drowning, then they'd disblieve the sexual abuse part as well. If the drowning coverup part is disbelieved, then everything else should be considered a lie as well. If the living in denial for 31 days is disbelieved, then the rest would have to be a lie as well. Since the various parts were presented as a whole, if one piece crumbles, the whole thing disintegrates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:22:04 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.  We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong - George in his July 24, 2008, statement to the sheriff, KC, in the past 2 - 2 1/2 months had a new set of friends.

Now...the Journal page dated June 21...it says something like: I've surrounded myself with new friends or people I like (words to that effect). 

Those two should put that June 21 page as "2008".  Right?  That da**ing journal page that they've tried to say was written years before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:22:55 PM
Another thing about Bozo's opening statement that was just dumb: he threw so many claims in there, stated as facts, that if a juror disbelieves even one part of that story, or finds the evidence contradicts a part, then the rest of the story will also have to be considered a lie. If they disbelieve the accidental drowning, then they'd disblieve the sexual abuse part as well. If the drowning coverup part is disbelieved, then everything else should be considered a lie as well. If the living in denial for 31 days is disbelieved, then the rest would have to be a lie as well. Since the various parts were presented as a whole, if one piece crumbles, the whole thing disintegrates.

I wonder if even one of the jurors believed the part of Roy Kronk hanging on to the body for months?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 29, 2011, 05:26:07 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO


We all do not condone their previous conduct & agree they need to reap what they sow for that, but these accusations Casey & her defense are putting forward go beyond the pale even for them.  We all would be devastated & pretty disgusted if these horrendous allegations were lodged against us whether we are completely upstanding or have flaws of our own.
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I agree with you Capp.  Any person would be devastated and disgusted sitting in the Anthony's position. That was why I think Beaz used such a vile disgusting description
of the sexual abuse. For for the shock affect and it worked. People left and right instantly felt sorry the the Anthony's, I know I did because it was so revolting to hear.
I do not think what Beaz said was right or truthful and I am sure it hurt like hell for the Anthony's to hear that and know that it came from their daughter.

When I went back and listened to George's statements to the Sheriff on July 24, 2008 and all 7 parts of the FBI statements on July 31, 2008 it made me repulsed and disgusted with the Anthony's all over again. George lied on the stand again. The Anthony's need to stop the lies. They have impacted so many lives with their lies and spins.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
Another thing about Bozo's opening statement that was just dumb: he threw so many claims in there, stated as facts, that if a juror disbelieves even one part of that story, or finds the evidence contradicts a part, then the rest of the story will also have to be considered a lie. If they disbelieve the accidental drowning, then they'd disblieve the sexual abuse part as well. If the drowning coverup part is disbelieved, then everything else should be considered a lie as well. If the living in denial for 31 days is disbelieved, then the rest would have to be a lie as well. Since the various parts were presented as a whole, if one piece crumbles, the whole thing disintegrates.

This also includes the accusations made by Bozo in his opening regarding Kronk.   There is no reason for him to have moved the body, NONE.  Even money driven, he could have made the discovery at any time & still received the aware, the time & money issue is a red herring.  Additionally, there will be testimony & evidence presented to show that the specific area that the remains were found was flooded & for how long.   The condition of the remains were scattered but not without nature's proof of how long they were there.   I will bet that the plant expert will have the growth thru bones pinned to within two weeks of June 16th & that will be very difficult to ignore or disbelieve...it is what it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 05:27:48 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.   We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.
Thats why the July interview is so important. He didnt puke because of the pics. He was waiting for Lee to arrive so they could hear the 911 call before it was released. He knew Bozo lied on NG when he said the police would not talk to him. Bozo has been lying since the beginning too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 05:28:53 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.  We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong - George in his July 24, 2008, statement to the sheriff, KC, in the past 2 - 2 1/2 months had a new set of friends.

Now...the Journal page dated June 21...it says something like: I've surrounded myself with new friends or people I like (words to that effect). 

Those two should put that June 21 page as "2008".  Right?  That da**ing journal page that they've tried to say was written years before.

If memory serves, yeah


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 05:30:13 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



This was interesting to read..

The transformation of fats into adipocere occurs best in the absence of oxygen in a cold and humid environment, such as in wet ground or mud at the bottom of a lake or a sealed casket, and it can occur with both embalmed and untreated bodies. Adipocere formation begins within a month of death, and in the absence of air it can persist for centuries.[3] An exposed, infested body or a body in a warm environment is unlikely to form deposits of adipocere.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.[1] In forensic science, the utility of adipocere formation to estimate the postmortem interval is limited because the speed of the process is temperature-dependent. It is accelerated by warmth, but temperature extremes impede it.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

The grave wax was why I thought she stuck her in the freezer for a few days after she couldn't dig a hole for her in the back yard. The first time she backed into the garage, I think she was going to try to bury her and maybe did stick her in the sandbox with the top on it or the playhouse, but then decided that wasn't a good idea and stuck her in their freezer. Easy to do if they had a lot of food. Just remove the food and put all back on top of her in the garbage bags. Then when she backed in the second time get her out and put her in the trunk to dump her. That would account for the fast decomp and the grave way.
...
ITA .. The freezer in the garage. Also wasn't there THC on that paper towel ? 

Back then, I remember many times questioning "why" LE isn't checking out the freezer.  Arrrgh!



And to think the defense is going to try to confuse the jury by stating that this could have been cold cuts... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 05:31:26 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.   We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.
Thats why the July interview is so important. He didnt puke because of the pics. He was waiting for Lee to arrive so they could hear the 911 call before it was released. He knew Bozo lied on NG when he said the police would not talk to him. Bozo has been lying since the beginning too.

So true


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 05:34:20 PM
Thank you DonFL for the audio link..now to find the video..I know i have seen it before
http://www.wftv.com/video/17934383/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/17934383/index.html) it says video but it is just audio


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:34:45 PM
Listening to George's interview with the Sheriff:

My son is much more level-headed than my wife.

My wife and  separated in 2005.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 05:37:53 PM
Listening to George's interview with the Sheriff:

My son is much more level-headed than my wife.

My wife and  separated in 2005.


Thats the one!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 29, 2011, 05:44:24 PM
Will Kc's journal entry from June 21st, I think it was, be released to the jury?  That one piece of evidence alone is so stinkin' damning.  Who would say something like that after her child allegedly drowned in a pool? 

Also, I've recently been hearing that Caylee referred to her baby doll as "mamma".  OMG, that breaks my heart in two. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 05:45:17 PM
Listening to George's interview with the Sheriff:

My son is much more level-headed than my wife.

My wife and  separated in 2005.



 ::MonkeyMad::

George disgusts me!!  He is no prize. His words in the interview undermining Cindy was akin to the pot calling the kettle black.

Think about it.  As far as we know Cindy did not cheat on George.  As far as we know Cindy was not unemployed for years.  As far as we know Cindy did not lose thousands in online Gambling.  As far as we know Cindy did not attempt to take the suicide route in order to escape the nightmare encmpassing his granddaughter's disappearance.

Janet

+++++


A Tough Thanksgiving For Anthony Family
Thursday, November 27, 2008 – updated: 12:02 pm EST November 27, 2008


FAMILY TENSION

<snipped>

Casey's parents' financial problems almost shattered their marriage but ended up saving it because Cindy couldn't afford divorce. The investigation showed Cindy supported George for years.  He lost thousands of dollars in a U.K. lottery scam.

<snipped>

http://www.wftv.com/news/18159143/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 29, 2011, 05:47:04 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO



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BBM

My first instinct was that Bozo had sold/licensed the video of Caylee's 2nd birthday. I suspect he held on to some of the pics and videos the slore lugged into his office all those days she was out on bail. He has to clean up the latest mess with IRS, I bet he was prepared in case he got caught.

Then again, the video could have been the A's, but really, they do have bills to pay and they haven't come close to recouping the money Casey stole from them all these years. I don't think I would be able to function effectively at work if I were them and no I'm not making excuses. Hopefully when this is all over, they can try to put their lives back together and go back to some sort of normalcy...I still think it could just as well be Bozo though..JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:49:06 PM

Listening to George's interview with sheriff:

Cindy's dad had a stroke, sometimes he can get out a word okay and next minute he's off in another world.  Cindy got furious that press wanted to go see her dad.  And George's mother-in-law (Cindy's mother) a couple years back had a double mastectomy and weighs maybe 85 lbs.  (90 lbs. if you stretch it).

My dad is not in good condition, he's not had a stroke but a lot of other issues.

My mom is 4' 11" and all bent over.  It's hard. 

Doesn't want his sister there yet - because she's "oh, what are we going to do" "oh, my gosh"

My sister's had a lot of issues over the years - wonder if something "skipped" and it's affected KC

Sister is flying down to help them, husband well to do, to him dropping $100,000 is like dropping $1,000 to us.

George tried to passionately tell Cindy in her reaching out that she must share both ways - that she's "going to screw things up" and pretty soon they will be coming after us and "we'll have to get an attorney".

From day 1, Cindy was off the walls with the press. And it was a problem in LE's eyes and George's eyes.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 05:49:10 PM
Has anyone found the July 24th video ? I have been searching like crazy. The written word isnt as good as seeing and hearing it. George had to go puke because Yuri and JA gave him a reality check. I believe George knew Caylee was dead all along but went along with Cindy because she was losing her mind. Remember how much weight she lost, so fast? and her zombie interview where George had to do all the talking.. I also think another part of her felt she could still 'fix' this ..

The zombie interview was in Nov of 08..and around or very near in time to when Dom Casey is out probing around with Jim Hoover looking for Caylee.

Also I thought in that July 24  interview they did show George pics of Casey..was that another interview then?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:51:02 PM
Listening to George's interview with sheriff:

Hear LE telling George if KC asks to see them they would drop everything and listen to her.

(reminds me of the jail house visit where George told KC she could send a note and LE would talk to her)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on May 29, 2011, 05:51:27 PM
http://bullstopper.wordpress.com/

Is Jose Baez Desperate?


 ::snipping2::

We have learned Mr. Baez, on the first day of the trial, told the jury he, the lead attorney for the defense, is desperate.

We have learned Mr. Baez, on the first day of the trial, told the jury he,the lead attorney for the defense, is speculating when he tells them what happened to Caylee Anthony.

We have learned Mr. Baez, on the first day of the trial, told the jury he, the lead attorney for the defense, found only a single problem with the investigation, namely his own desperation for a different conclusion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 29, 2011, 05:51:52 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO


We all do not condone their previous conduct & agree they need to reap what they sow for that, but these accusations Casey & her defense are putting forward go beyond the pale even for them.  We all would be devastated & pretty disgusted if these horrendous allegations were lodged against us whether we are completely upstanding or have flaws of our own.

I agree with you Capp.  Any person would be devastated and disgusted sitting in the Anthony's position. That was why I think Beaz used such a vile disgusting description
of the sexual abuse. For for the shock affect and it worked. People left and right instantly felt sorry the the Anthony's, I know I did because it was so revolting to hear.
I do not think what Beaz said was right or truthful and I am sure it hurt like hell for the Anthony's to hear that and know that it came from their daughter.

When I went back and listened to George's statements to the Sheriff on July 24, 2008 and all 7 parts of the FBI statements on July 31, 2008 it made me repulsed and disgusted with the Anthony's all over again. George lied on the stand again. The Anthony's need to stop the lies. They have impacted so many lives with their lies and spins.


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Sorry I got in your quote Capp


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:54:14 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

My wife has called, there's a press conference at 4:00 p.m. and she wants me home.

Tip came in that there's a family at a campground with a little girl that looks like Caylee in California.  Calls in someone to have them check out the tip - said you know who to contact for out of state - contact the FBI.

George gets distressed - LE takes George for a walk to try to relieve stress.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 05:56:47 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO


We all do not condone their previous conduct & agree they need to reap what they sow for that, but these accusations Casey & her defense are putting forward go beyond the pale even for them.  We all would be devastated & pretty disgusted if these horrendous allegations were lodged against us whether we are completely upstanding or have flaws of our own.

I agree with you Capp.  Any person would be devastated and disgusted sitting in the Anthony's position. That was why I think Beaz used such a vile disgusting description
of the sexual abuse. For for the shock affect and it worked. People left and right instantly felt sorry the the Anthony's, I know I did because it was so revolting to hear.
I do not think what Beaz said was right or truthful and I am sure it hurt like hell for the Anthony's to hear that and know that it came from their daughter.

When I went back and listened to George's statements to the Sheriff on July 24, 2008 and all 7 parts of the FBI statements on July 31, 2008 it made me repulsed and disgusted with the Anthony's all over again. George lied on the stand again. The Anthony's need to stop the lies. They have impacted so many lives with their lies and spins.



Sorry I got in your quote Capp
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CarolF - I'm listening to George's statement.  I just finished the July 24 interview with the sheriff.

You stated above that George lied on the stand again.

Would you please spell that out for me what the lie was he made on the stand, so I can listen for it? TIA



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 05:56:52 PM

Listening to George's interview with sheriff:

Cindy's dad had a stroke, sometimes he can get out a word okay and next minute he's off in another world.  Cindy got furious that press wanted to go see her dad.  And George's mother-in-law (Cindy's mother) a couple years back had a double mastectomy and weighs maybe 85 lbs.  (90 lbs. if you stretch it).

My dad is not in good condition, he's not had a stroke but a lot of other issues.

My mom is 4' 11" and all bent over.  It's hard. 

Doesn't want his sister there yet - because she's "oh, what are we going to do" "oh, my gosh"

My sister's had a lot of issues over the years - wonder if something "skipped" and it's affected KC

Sister is flying down to help them, husband well to do, to him dropping $100,000 is like dropping $1,000 to us.

George tried to passionately tell Cindy in her reaching out that she must share both ways - that she's "going to screw things up" and pretty soon they will be coming after us and "we'll have to get an attorney".

From day 1, Cindy was off the walls with the press. And it was a problem in LE's eyes and George's eyes.



And she did....Greta, Whoraldo, Fox13 Mike & Juliett, Megyn Kelly on Foxnews.....and they had to get 3 attorneys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 05:58:38 PM
Another thing about Bozo's opening statement that was just dumb: he threw so many claims in there, stated as facts, that if a juror disbelieves even one part of that story, or finds the evidence contradicts a part, then the rest of the story will also have to be considered a lie. If they disbelieve the accidental drowning, then they'd disblieve the sexual abuse part as well. If the drowning coverup part is disbelieved, then everything else should be considered a lie as well. If the living in denial for 31 days is disbelieved, then the rest would have to be a lie as well. Since the various parts were presented as a whole, if one piece crumbles, the whole thing disintegrates.


IIRC LE did not pay out the reward! it was mark nejame.
This also includes the accusations made by Bozo in his opening regarding Kronk.   There is no reason for him to have moved the body, NONE.  Even money driven, he could have made the discovery at any time & still received the aware, the time & money issue is a red herring.  Additionally, there will be testimony & evidence presented to show that the specific area that the remains were found was flooded & for how long.   The condition of the remains were scattered but not without nature's proof of how long they were there.   I will bet that the plant expert will have the growth thru bones pinned to within two weeks of June 16th & that will be very difficult to ignore or disbelieve...it is what it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 05:59:36 PM
IIRC LE did not pay out the reward! it was mark nejame.
sorry I think my quote got lost in someone's quote box


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 06:00:08 PM
Has anyone found the July 24th video ? I have been searching like crazy. The written word isnt as good as seeing and hearing it. George had to go puke because Yuri and JA gave him a reality check. I believe George knew Caylee was dead all along but went along with Cindy because she was losing her mind. Remember how much weight she lost, so fast? and her zombie interview where George had to do all the talking.. I also think another part of her felt she could still 'fix' this ..

The zombie interview was in Nov of 08..and around or very near in time to when Dom Casey is out probing around with Jim Hoover looking for Caylee.

Also I thought in that July 24  interview they did show George pics of Casey..was that another interview then?

July 24, 2008 Video of George's interview with the sheriff:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17934383/index.html

(it's audio)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 06:00:29 PM
Another thing about Bozo's opening statement that was just dumb: he threw so many claims in there, stated as facts, that if a juror disbelieves even one part of that story, or finds the evidence contradicts a part, then the rest of the story will also have to be considered a lie. If they disbelieve the accidental drowning, then they'd disblieve the sexual abuse part as well. If the drowning coverup part is disbelieved, then everything else should be considered a lie as well. If the living in denial for 31 days is disbelieved, then the rest would have to be a lie as well. Since the various parts were presented as a whole, if one piece crumbles, the whole thing disintegrates.


IIRC LE did not pay out the reward! it was mark nejame.
This also includes the accusations made by Bozo in his opening regarding Kronk.   There is no reason for him to have moved the body, NONE.  Even money driven, he could have made the discovery at any time & still received the aware, the time & money issue is a red herring.  Additionally, there will be testimony & evidence presented to show that the specific area that the remains were found was flooded & for how long.   The condition of the remains were scattered but not without nature's proof of how long they were there.   I will bet that the plant expert will have the growth thru bones pinned to within two weeks of June 16th & that will be very difficult to ignore or disbelieve...it is what it is.

Im aware how Kronk got money, Mark Nejame wrote him a check for $5,000 & then Kronk got money for the snake picture from a network


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 06:01:00 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.

Yeah and George this week on the stand was not very nice abut Jesse when Baez or Linda..forget which one.. asked him about first meeting Jesse in the hospital after the delivery of Cayleee.  Maybe that's honest..but he even mentioned Jesse took a paternity test and the baby wasn't his..I really think he was into blaming Casey's freinds and boyfriends for her behavior rather then tackle the problem head on and say we have a situation here with Casey and men.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 06:04:29 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



This was interesting to read..

The transformation of fats into adipocere occurs best in the absence of oxygen in a cold and humid environment, such as in wet ground or mud at the bottom of a lake or a sealed casket, and it can occur with both embalmed and untreated bodies. Adipocere formation begins within a month of death, and in the absence of air it can persist for centuries.[3] An exposed, infested body or a body in a warm environment is unlikely to form deposits of adipocere.

Corpses of women, infants and overweight persons are particularly prone to adipocere transformation because they contain more body fat.[1] In forensic science, the utility of adipocere formation to estimate the postmortem interval is limited because the speed of the process is temperature-dependent. It is accelerated by warmth, but temperature extremes impede it.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipocere

The grave wax was why I thought she stuck her in the freezer for a few days after she couldn't dig a hole for her in the back yard. The first time she backed into the garage, I think she was going to try to bury her and maybe did stick her in the sandbox with the top on it or the playhouse, but then decided that wasn't a good idea and stuck her in their freezer. Easy to do if they had a lot of food. Just remove the food and put all back on top of her in the garbage bags. Then when she backed in the second time get her out and put her in the trunk to dump her. That would account for the fast decomp and the grave way.
...
ITA .. The freezer in the garage. Also wasn't there THC on that paper towel ?  

LOL..yes there was..doing bong hits and chloroform in the trunk....I think Casey has a lot of 'splaining to do. 

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 06:12:35 PM
Has anyone found the July 24th video ? I have been searching like crazy. The written word isnt as good as seeing and hearing it. George had to go puke because Yuri and JA gave him a reality check. I believe George knew Caylee was dead all along but went along with Cindy because she was losing her mind. Remember how much weight she lost, so fast? and her zombie interview where George had to do all the talking.. I also think another part of her felt she could still 'fix' this ..

The zombie interview was in Nov of 08..and around or very near in time to when Dom Casey is out probing around with Jim Hoover looking for Caylee.

Also I thought in that July 24  interview they did show George pics of Casey..was that another interview then?

July 24, 2008 Video of George's interview with the sheriff:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17934383/index.html

(it's audio)

Thanks Puzzler I will listen when I get a chance.

Another interview I am looking for is Chris Stultz (sp).

IIRC, I think Casey went to his house in Tony's jeep, uninvited and unannouced, and talked with him for a little bit, maybe his mom too..and then left.  After she left they found a bag they did not even know she brought that had some of Caylee's things in it..I want to find that to see if I remember correctly..and to see what of Caylee's things she left there.  Caylee would have been dead at that time.  I could be all wrong too and it was someone else.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 06:19:25 PM
Transcript of Chris Stutz interview with LE:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608christopherstutz/index.htm (http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608christopherstutz/index.htm)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
I'm eager to see/hear Lippman's motion. I would love to think it's something against Baez or KC, but I'm thinking it's not. It's my understanding opening statements and such are protected, so if Lippman filed a motion knowing that, he would sorta look like Bozo (seemingly not having a grasp of the law).

However, maybe he feels it necessary to file a motion anyway, for the A's peace of mind in knowing he tried at least. Then again, perhaps he's taken these days to act because he's been studying case law and wants to set a precedent? Another option might be he simply wants a stipulation read (sorta like they did with those bruised eye photos) acknowledging there's no evidence whatever George has molested KC?

I'd love to hear what other monkeys are thinking in regards to this?

...  even if the opening statement are riddled with claims which have no foundation?

Could it be that defence does have a witness ... witnesses who will validate the disgusting/incriminating accusations within that openng statement?

Could it be that the author/s of those "psych evals" will be called as defence witnesses to substantiate Baez/Casey's claims?

Janet

+++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html

Northern Rose

Janet Here is the problem with our laws in the US...due to the presumption of innocence of Casey the only people who have to prove anything in court is the prosecution...they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt she did this deed.  Believe me when I say I have the upmost faith that they will.

Unfortunately defense attorneys only job is to discredit the evidence, the character of the people testifying and then mitigate the sentencing phase.  Known of that has to deal with proofs..just innuendo to cause doubt. 

Do defense attorneys in this country lie?  Yes, they do everyday.  They get around that by saying that is what their client told them.  It is sad but true.

Thanks Gypsy.

I am no legal eagle on court procedures in Canada or the United States or ... anywhere.  However ... common sense tells me that outright lies from either the prosecutor or the defence is a manipulation of the judicial process when it comes to the info that the jury will deliberate on.

Think about the ladder issue.  The jury may now decide following Baez's opening statement ... despite Cindy's insistence otherwise ... there is reasonable doubt that Caylee's grandmother's memory failed her and she did indeed forget to put away the ladder following her swim with Caylee in the late afternoon of June 15th.  In other words ... Casey arrive home did distract her.  Now the defence's theory of an "accidental drowning" as a result of Cindy's neglect will be a consideration during deliberations.

Janet

++++++

Defense: Caylee Drowned In Her Grandparents' Pool
POSTED: 10:10 pm MDT May 23, 2011
UPDATED: 8:34 pm MDT May 24, 2011


<snipped>

Baez said the family was "religious" about removing the above-ground pool ladder so that Caylee, who loved to swim, had no access to it. He suggested that Caylee's grandmother, Cindy Anthony, had forgotten to put it up the night before Caylee drowned, as she and Caylee were just exiting the pool when Anthony arrived home.

The day after Caylee's death, June 17, Cindy Anthony told coworkers she believed someone had been swimming in her pool, as the gate was left open and the ladder was left in place, Baez said.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/28000319/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 29, 2011, 06:23:36 PM
Christopher Stutz Interview (audio)
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAxU4OKKkL0&feature=related
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36WrGyBjIt8&feature=related
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsqlAId8WG4&feature=related


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 06:23:46 PM
Florida Bar confirms new complaint against Jose Baez
February 02, 2011|By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel

The Florida Bar has confirmed a new complaint was lodged against Casey Anthony attorney Jose Baez.

 "There's a file open, and anything else is confidential at this time," said Karen Kirksey, a Florida Bar spokeswoman, adding that the complaint is "at staff" level at this point.

 "That means the Bar is looking into it, asking questions, just looking to see if it has any merit," Kirksey said. "No probable cause has been found."


 ::snipping2::

That issue involved allegations that Baez directed investigator Dominic Casey to "walk away" if he found Caylee's lifeless body during a 2008 search — and then contact Baez rather than law enforcement. ::snipping2::

When asked to discuss the Strickland letter last month, Baez said, "I have been cleared of all Bar complaints filed against me."

 That is true. In 2009, the Bar cleared him of another complaint that he may have entered into an agreement to gain financially for representing Casey Anthony by publicizing her story. A Bar grievance committee "determined that there is insufficient evidence to establish that Mr. Baez violated" Florida Bar rules stemming from that complaint.



http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ph0L4JWF5LsJ:articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-02-02/news/os-jose-baez-bar-complaint-20110202_1_dominic-casey-jose-baez-new-complaint+Jose+Baez&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera&source=www.google.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 06:26:44 PM


snip;
This would explain the dog hits on the pool and sandbox, borrowing the shovel, dent in the pool, etc???

Was there a dent in the pool?  If so what side of the pool and is there a picture of this dent?


Sorry for just getting back to you. I was gone all day.
I wish I could recall where I read or heard about an unusual dent or such with regard to the pool. It's been a while. Does anyone else recall? Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 06:32:07 PM
Good lord, I didn't know that they had found grave wax in her car!

http://www.wesh.com/r/21714207/detail.html

Grave wax, coffin flies, hairs from a dead body....



starwynn

What is grave wax?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 29, 2011, 06:34:07 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO


We all do not condone their previous conduct & agree they need to reap what they sow for that, but these accusations Casey & her defense are putting forward go beyond the pale even for them.  We all would be devastated & pretty disgusted if these horrendous allegations were lodged against us whether we are completely upstanding or have flaws of our own.

I agree with you Capp.  Any person would be devastated and disgusted sitting in the Anthony's position. That was why I think Baez used such a vile disgusting description
of the sexual abuse. For for the shock affect and it worked. People left and right instantly felt sorry the the Anthony's, I know I did because it was so revolting to hear.
I do not think what Baez said was right or truthful and I am sure it hurt like hell for the Anthony's to hear that and know that it came from their daughter.

When I went back and listened to George's statements to the Sheriff on July 24, 2008 and all 7 parts of the FBI statements on July 31, 2008 it made me repulsed and disgusted with the Anthony's all over again. George lied on the stand again. The Anthony's need to stop the lies. They have impacted so many lives with their lies and spins.



Sorry I got in your quote Capp

CarolF - I'm listening to George's statement.  I just finished the July 24 interview with the sheriff.

You stated above that George lied on the stand again.

Would you please spell that out for me what the lie was he made on the stand, so I can listen for it? TIA


[/quote]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18032897/index.html

Its in the FBI statements.  And I am trying to limit myself to what was said in court.
They really didn't go deeply in questioning George but some of the things so far.

George talking about Casey's pregnancy and he is telling the FBI he wanted to know who the father was and questioned Casey about it.

In court he said he was just trilled she was pregnant and who the father was could wait he was not concerned about it at all.

He also testified in court he had no idea what gas can he took to the tow yard but clearly states to the FBI it was the old round gas can.

About mowing his lawn. Telling FBI he mowed every week. In court he has no idea how often he mows the yard.

These are just little things that Bozo asked him about in court, I thought how weird he is asking these questions. Well he is going by the statements that George made and is trying to establish that this whole family lies so who can you believe.

I think this is why bozo wants the Grand Jury Deposition. To pick apart every little thing he can that George has said in the past.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 29, 2011, 06:35:16 PM
IIRC, when Yuri & Allen were interviweing the Anthonys at the house early days, there was a large dent in the ground near the pool. It was in the doc dumps and there are so many of them I can't locate it , too far back.
I do believe that Cindy & George did some yard work on July 4th. Allen & Yuri were satisfied with whatever explanation that was given. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 06:35:47 PM
No idea if this is true, but.....


angeleleven 
proud mom of 3 beautiful daughters   Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,209 
 
It was said on Judge Jeanine on Fox just a few minutes ago that GA & CA are suing JB for slander.
__________________
 
 
 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=2

YES!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tevye on May 29, 2011, 06:39:39 PM


snip;
This would explain the dog hits on the pool and sandbox, borrowing the shovel, dent in the pool, etc???

Was there a dent in the pool?  If so what side of the pool and is there a picture of this dent?


Sorry for just getting back to you. I was gone all day.
I wish I could recall where I read or heard about an unusual dent or such with regard to the pool. It's been a while. Does anyone else recall? Thanks!
In case no one has replied...I think you may be confusing the pool with the ground. LE said there was a depression in the ground. I can't remember if the dogs hit on it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 06:41:40 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 06:47:04 PM
IIRC, when Yuri & Allen were interviweing the Anthonys at the house early days, there was a large dent in the ground near the pool. It was in the doc dumps and there are so many of them I can't locate it , too far back.
I do believe that Cindy & George did some yard work on July 4th. Allen & Yuri were satisfied with whatever explanation that was given. 


Thank you Kat_Gram! Great memory!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 06:50:22 PM


snip;
This would explain the dog hits on the pool and sandbox, borrowing the shovel, dent in the pool, etc???

Was there a dent in the pool?  If so what side of the pool and is there a picture of this dent?


Yes, thank you; I sure was!

Sorry for just getting back to you. I was gone all day.
I wish I could recall where I read or heard about an unusual dent or such with regard to the pool. It's been a while. Does anyone else recall? Thanks!
In case no one has replied...I think you may be confusing the pool with the ground. LE said there was a depression in the ground. I can't remember if the dogs hit on it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 06:51:43 PM
Messd up the quotes, sorry! Yes, I was confused about the dent. Thank you fore helping me out. Much appreciated!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2011, 06:57:49 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.  We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong - George in his July 24, 2008, statement to the sheriff, KC, in the past 2 - 2 1/2 months had a new set of friends.

Now...the Journal page dated June 21...it says something like: I've surrounded myself with new friends or people I like (words to that effect). 

Those two should put that June 21 page as "2008".  Right?  That da**ing journal page that they've tried to say was written years before.

If memory serves, yeah

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image81-2.png)

The Journal.

I am two pages behind, hope this is still relevant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 06:59:48 PM
Transcript of Chris Stutz interview with LE:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608christopherstutz/index.htm (http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608christopherstutz/index.htm)

Klaas

Is there a website that lists transcripts of all the witnesses who testified in the trial as well as the opening statements of the defence and prosecution.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 07:00:29 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf


Holy Hell klaas.... do we have a picture of Chris Stutz? I seriously might know this person....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 07:01:25 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO


We all do not condone their previous conduct & agree they need to reap what they sow for that, but these accusations Casey & her defense are putting forward go beyond the pale even for them.  We all would be devastated & pretty disgusted if these horrendous allegations were lodged against us whether we are completely upstanding or have flaws of our own.

I agree with you Capp.  Any person would be devastated and disgusted sitting in the Anthony's position. That was why I think Baez used such a vile disgusting description
of the sexual abuse. For for the shock affect and it worked. People left and right instantly felt sorry the the Anthony's, I know I did because it was so revolting to hear.
I do not think what Baez said was right or truthful and I am sure it hurt like hell for the Anthony's to hear that and know that it came from their daughter.

When I went back and listened to George's statements to the Sheriff on July 24, 2008 and all 7 parts of the FBI statements on July 31, 2008 it made me repulsed and disgusted with the Anthony's all over again. George lied on the stand again. The Anthony's need to stop the lies. They have impacted so many lives with their lies and spins.



Sorry I got in your quote Capp

CarolF - I'm listening to George's statement.  I just finished the July 24 interview with the sheriff.

You stated above that George lied on the stand again.

Would you please spell that out for me what the lie was he made on the stand, so I can listen for it? TIA



http://www.wftv.com/video/18032897/index.html

Its in the FBI statements.  And I am trying to limit myself to what was said in court.
They really didn't go deeply in questioning George but some of the things so far.

George talking about Casey's pregnancy and he is telling the FBI he wanted to know who the father was and questioned Casey about it.

In court he said he was just trilled she was pregnant and who the father was could wait he was not concerned about it at all.

He also testified in court he had no idea what gas can he took to the tow yard but clearly states to the FBI it was the old round gas can.

About mowing his lawn. Telling FBI he mowed every week. In court he has no idea how often he mows the yard.

These are just little things that Bozo asked him about in court, I thought how weird he is asking these questions. Well he is going by the statements that George made and is trying to establish that this whole family lies so who can you believe.

I think this is why bozo wants the Grand Jury Deposition. To pick apart every little thing he can that George has said in the past.

[/quote]

Carol

Just in general, saying you dont remember something isnt exactly lying.

It was almost 3 years ago so conceivably its possible that George doesnt remember or he's choosing to keep his answers very brief and/or not helpful to the defense, given the hostility & why its not difficult to see why.   Regarding Casey's pregnancy, he may have been thrilled after the shock wore off that Casey was pregnant & felt yes in fact the knowledge of who the father was could wait (Im not sure I buy that)  but that doesnt mean that he didnt want to know who the father was at any given point thereafter, especially after Caylee was "missing," actually murdered.   

We know much more than the jury yet not everything...the embellishing, lies, half-truths, absence of recall of many will be part of this trial more than the truth....the question is will the truth prevail all obstacles, I still feel strongly it will.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 07:02:54 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image81-2.png)

The Journal.

I am two pages behind, hope this is still relevant.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Brandi ... could you post George's "Why?" letter to Casey.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2011, 07:05:11 PM

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Brandi ... could you post George's "Why?" letter to Casey.

Thanks

Janet

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image68-2.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2011, 07:05:48 PM

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Brandi ... could you post George's "Why?" letter to Casey.

Thanks

Janet

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Image68-2.png)

OOps... wrong letter, one moment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 07:06:26 PM
Messd up the quotes, sorry! Yes, I was confused about the dent. Thank you fore helping me out. Much appreciated!

Its not just you, something seems to be going bonkers with posting today  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2011, 07:09:12 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 07:10:51 PM
Messd up the quotes, sorry! Yes, I was confused about the dent. Thank you fore helping me out. Much appreciated!

Its not just you, something seems to be going bonkers with posting today  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks Capp!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 07:15:02 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)

Thanks Bandi! Wow, sad, even as I read it again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2011, 07:17:11 PM
Janet, some smart monkey posted a link where I found this: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery/

Lots of info there. Depos, interviews, etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 29, 2011, 07:18:35 PM
Most of us have this case memorized. The jury doesn't and it all can't come in, else the trial will go on for three years.
There are many thing I have questioned about the ANTS for all these years. I do not think there was an accident or that George was involved on June 16th. However, they are going to have to sell some reasonable explanation as why they behaved the way they did to that jury.
When Cindy was on the stand yesterday, I wanted Linda to ask her : Why did you believe that crap ? It's one thing to not give your kid the third degree about where they went and all of that, but she had Caylee with her. Caylee was spending 4 to 5 nights a week at Ricardo's. That was so inappropriate and why didn't they figure things out sooner ?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 07:24:55 PM
Most of us have this case memorized. The jury doesn't and it all can't come in, else the trial will go on for three years.
There are many thing I have questioned about the ANTS for all these years. I do not think there was an accident or that George was involved on June 16th. However, they are going to have to sell some reasonable explanation as why they behaved the way they did to that jury.
When Cindy was on the stand yesterday, I wanted Linda to ask her : Why did you believe that crap ? It's one thing to not give your kid the third degree about where they went and all of that, but she had Caylee with her. Caylee was spending 4 to 5 nights a week at Ricardo's. That was so inappropriate and why didn't they figure things out sooner ?   

I agree with you, though I add that some parents are like that...not me! But I personally know aquaitances, not close friends, who behave like this with their adult children. They feel it's wrong to pry into an adult child's life (even with grandchildren involved) [sigh]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
Most of us have this case memorized. The jury doesn't and it all can't come in, else the trial will go on for three years.
There are many thing I have questioned about the ANTS for all these years. I do not think there was an accident or that George was involved on June 16th. However, they are going to have to sell some reasonable explanation as why they behaved the way they did to that jury.
When Cindy was on the stand yesterday, I wanted Linda to ask her : Why did you believe that crap ? It's one thing to not give your kid the third degree about where they went and all of that, but she had Caylee with her. Caylee was spending 4 to 5 nights a week at Ricardo's. That was so inappropriate and why didn't they figure things out sooner ?   

I agree as you may have seen. They need to be totally upfront & admit what they did despite its consequence and with that state that they wanted to believe their daughter & hope that Caylee was still alive.   I believe they at least suspected after picking up Casey's car and certainly thereafter was a total after the fact cover up & there is no way around that so they need to confront it, if they dont Id have to think they still desire for Casey to get away with murder....so far it doesnt appear so but I pray that is not the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 29, 2011, 07:29:06 PM
I think George had known for some time that things with Casey weren't "right".  I think he knew she was pregnant, I think he knew she wasn't working at Universal, Sports Authority, etc.  I think he knew she did something to Caylee.  I think he let those things go rather than suffer the wrath of Cindy AND Casey.  I think he is a beaten man.

I think Cindy was so knee-deep in denial she couldn't see straight, although we are seeing doubt creeping into Cindy's mind witnessed by her testimony yesterday that she was beginning to believe Casey was lying when she said she and Caylee were in Jax.  She called Ryan, a friend of Casey's to see if he'd seen or heard from Casey, and he had so she believed Casey was actually in Jax at that point.

One thing about sociopaths/psychopaths, they are very adept liars. . . they can lie on the fly very convincingly.  Sometimes you KNOW they are lying to you but you think you are the one going crazy because they are so convincing and elaborate with the lies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 07:34:01 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)
Brandi, is there a copy of the envelope that came with this letter?  The date is 2010.  Could that be a typo, or have G & C known for over a year?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 29, 2011, 07:34:18 PM
Can someone please post a link from when casey flipped out yesterday morning when her mommy didn't look @ her or take up for her. Tia


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 07:35:58 PM
I think George had known for some time that things with Casey weren't "right".  I think he knew she was pregnant, I think he knew she wasn't working at Universal, Sports Authority, etc.  I think he knew she did something to Caylee.  I think he let those things go rather than suffer the wrath of Cindy AND Casey.  I think he is a beaten man.

I think Cindy was so knee-deep in denial she couldn't see straight, although we are seeing doubt creeping into Cindy's mind witnessed by her testimony yesterday that she was beginning to believe Casey was lying when she said she and Caylee were in Jax.  She called Ryan, a friend of Casey's to see if he'd seen or heard from Casey, and he had so she believed Casey was actually in Jax at that point.

One thing about sociopaths/psychopaths, they are very adept liars. . . they can lie on the fly very convincingly.  Sometimes you KNOW they are lying to you but you think you are the one going crazy because they are so convincing and elaborate with the lies.


It tends to lead credence to the reported incident when Casey was bailed out and George made an utterance that he had had it and couldnt live with this lie any longer, also reports that he went after Casey wanting the truth in front of others.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)

Thanks Brandi

This letter bothers me for many reasons.  It is not a letter of denial.  It is not a letter demanding to know why Casey is lying.  Instead ... George uses each member of the family as leverage in a futile attempt to persuade his daughter not to go down this avenue of defence.

Those are the exact words that a father used to keep a sexually abuse survivor we know from speaking out at an early age... a sexual abuse survivor who is a very close friend of my daughter.  Something akin to Casey ... prior to receiving professional counselling and ... turning her life around ... this now happily married wife and mother ... went down the road of promiscuity for many years ... search for love in all the wrong places.

I hope I am wrong but ... I am not convinced that Casey is lying in regards to the sexual abuse allegation.  However ... any sexual abuse that may have occurred does not justify Casey's actions in those 31 days.  Casey has to be held accountable.  Justice for Caylee demands it.

What did the the unreleased suicide letter written by George reveal?  Think about it.  As far as I am aware there has not been one word of objection by the prosecution to the disgusting allegations within the defence's opening statement.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
have yall seen this video?

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/interactive.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 07:41:44 PM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.

Well, it appears I pegged that one...seems to me that will be what Lippman's motion is in regard to


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)
Brandi, is there a copy of the envelope that came with this letter?  The date is 2010.  Could that be a typo, or have G & C known for over a year?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image84.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 07:42:15 PM
Most of us have this case memorized. The jury doesn't and it all can't come in, else the trial will go on for three years.
There are many thing I have questioned about the ANTS for all these years. I do not think there was an accident or that George was involved on June 16th. However, they are going to have to sell some reasonable explanation as why they behaved the way they did to that jury.
When Cindy was on the stand yesterday, I wanted Linda to ask her : Why did you believe that crap ? It's one thing to not give your kid the third degree about where they went and all of that, but she had Caylee with her. Caylee was spending 4 to 5 nights a week at Ricardo's. That was so inappropriate and why didn't they figure things out sooner ?   


Kat... i wanted to scream that at her myself....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 07:44:02 PM
Janet, some smart monkey posted a link where I found this: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery/

Lots of info there. Depos, interviews, etc.

 ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 07:46:13 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf


Holy Hell klaas.... do we have a picture of Chris Stutz? I seriously might know this person....

Sorry, may have already been answered but yes we do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 07:46:19 PM
What if the jury was still seated when Cindy A was allowed to step down (what if the judge had not called the recess yet);


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 07:46:40 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)
Brandi, is there a copy of the envelope that came with this letter?  The date is 2010.  Could that be a typo, or have G & C known for over a year?


Tupelo

This letter was prompted by George & Cindy finding out about Casey's jail letters.   He is addressing why she said what she said in her letter to her jailmate


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 29, 2011, 07:46:55 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)
Brandi, is there a copy of the envelope that came with this letter?  The date is 2010.  Could that be a typo, or have G & C known for over a year?

Great catch!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 07:47:17 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf


Holy Hell klaas.... do we have a picture of Chris Stutz? I seriously might know this person....

Sorry, may have already been answered but yes we do.


Nope...not been answered...can you lead me to it? Thinking I may know the kids family...or should say knew them many years ago...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 07:50:09 PM
for anyone who cares to know lol
geraldo at large is now back in new york and is having an exclusive tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: karenmamo on May 29, 2011, 07:50:27 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 29, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
I also think the Ant's are seething at Baez because they believe this is all his doing. . . again thinking Casey is not capable of doing this to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 29, 2011, 07:52:33 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf


Holy Hell klaas.... do we have a picture of Chris Stutz? I seriously might know this person....

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/ChristopherStutz.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
Messd up the quotes, sorry! Yes, I was confused about the dent. Thank you fore helping me out. Much appreciated!

Tks 4 getting back to me about the dent.
These so much stuff, it's hard to keep things straight.... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 07:57:37 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf


Holy Hell klaas.... do we have a picture of Chris Stutz? I seriously might know this person....

Sorry, may have already been answered but yes we do.

Chris Stutz

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/5773960618_a9c89c0373_o.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/wakeboard713

I believe this is him as well:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001074678508


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 07:57:39 PM
I also think the Ant's are seething at Baez because they believe this is all his doing. . . again thinking Casey is not capable of doing this to them.

Her letter to her jailmate indicates otherwise, March 25, 2010 was the day after George was informed about the letters.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 29, 2011, 07:57:47 PM
for anyone who cares to know lol
geraldo at large is now back in new york and is having an exclusive tonight.

This ought to be a treat.  My TV listings say Stossel where Geraldo used to be.   Will he still be on FOX?  I can't wait to see the "hell" he raised.  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 07:57:54 PM
If I were a man on the jury, I could not help but sit there thinking "Holy crapola, if all it takes to prove a man molested a woman is to just SAY it happened without any proof of any kind, then all of mankind has got some serious, legitimate concerns!"



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 07:59:02 PM
for anyone who cares to know lol
geraldo at large is now back in new york and is having an exclusive tonight.

This ought to be a treat.  My TV listings say Stossel where Geraldo used to be.   Will he still be on FOX?  I can't wait to see the "hell" he raised.  ::piggy::
yes on fox
maybe strossel was because geraldo was sposed to be in orlando to kick ass and raise hell longer! but decided to make a fast exit out of town!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 08:00:23 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf


Holy Hell klaas.... do we have a picture of Chris Stutz? I seriously might know this person....

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/ChristopherStutz.jpg)


thanks blonde...this must be one of the testimonies I missed....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf


Holy Hell klaas.... do we have a picture of Chris Stutz? I seriously might know this person....

Sorry, may have already been answered but yes we do.

Chris Stutz

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/5773960618_a9c89c0373_o.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/wakeboard713

I believe this is him as well:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001074678508

Thanks klaas... I do remember who he is now....its been a long time and oh so many men....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
I also think the Ant's are seething at Baez because they believe this is all his doing. . . again thinking Casey is not capable of doing this to them.
new
I do not think the anthonys thought baez would do this.. they should have taken the hint when he alienated casey from them. baez will try to come out as a winner the great attorney the trial of the century attorney! at any cost!! but casey/josejust as involved being two faced to her parents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 08:03:55 PM
Thanks Brandi!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 29, 2011, 08:04:59 PM
for anyone who cares to know lol
geraldo at large is now back in new york and is having an exclusive tonight.

This ought to be a treat.  My TV listings say Stossel where Geraldo used to be.   Will he still be on FOX?  I can't wait to see the "hell" he raised.  ::piggy::
yes on fox
maybe strossel was because geraldo was sposed to be in orlando to kick ass and raise hell longer! but decided to make a fast exit out of town!

Thanks   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 08:07:02 PM
snipped from: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=1100 Fix link-needed space.  MB
JB and Casey are two or a kind, cut from the same cloth.

Let me refresh your memory on JB's past history in the legal profession!


Henry Pierson Curtis Sentinel Staff Writer

May 3, 2009

ORLANDO — His defense of a young mother charged with killing her toddler has transformed José Ángel Baez into one of the best-known lawyers in America.

For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other “financial irresponsibility” up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.

"His overall behavior", they wrote, showed “A total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law.”He worked instead as a paralegal for the Miami-Dade public defender and then taught Internet research to lawyers and started four business ventures, including two bikini companies. Before Florida Bar officials admitted him in 2005, he had to demonstrate that he had rehabilitated himself.Read the rest here:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 8904.story

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/may/03/casey-anthonys-lawyer-jose-baez-rejected-florida-b/?print=1 (http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/may/03/casey-anthonys-lawyer-jose-baez-rejected-florida-b/?print=1)  same article here

So what is JB doing this weekend? A narcissist like JB is confident he can continue to lie and con his way through and plant reasonable doubt with the jury.

There's A FINE LINE BETWEEN A DONKEY AND A JACK ASS, but I think JB has crossed that line!

JB aka JA! will continue to think he's the smartest guy in the room. Just watch...He and Casey are two of a kind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 08:08:50 PM
snipped from:http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=1100
JB and Casey are two or a kind, cut from the same cloth.

Let me refresh your memory on JB's past history in the legal profession!


Henry Pierson Curtis Sentinel Staff Writer

May 3, 2009

ORLANDO — His defense of a young mother charged with killing her toddler has transformed José Ángel Baez into one of the best-known lawyers in America.

For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other “financial irresponsibility” up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.

"His overall behavior", they wrote, showed “A total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law.”He worked instead as a paralegal for the Miami-Dade public defender and then taught Internet research to lawyers and started four business ventures, including two bikini companies. Before Florida Bar officials admitted him in 2005, he had to demonstrate that he had rehabilitated himself.Read the rest here:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 8904.story

So what is JB doing this weekend? A narcissist like JB is confident he can continue to lie and con his way through and plant reasonable doubt with the jury.

There's A FINE LINE BETWEEN A DONKEY AND A JACK ASS, but I think JB has crossed that line!

JB aka JA! will continue to think he's the smartest guy in the room. Just watch...He and Casey are two of a kind.
sorry the orlando link is no longer available


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 08:12:58 PM

This case is about what happened to Caylee, a precious little girl who was killed and bagged like garbage and thrown in the woods. Very tragic and sad beyond words.
There is not one of us here that have not experienced death of a loved one. Have any of you ever seen a family act the way the Anthony's have?

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

George Anthony interviews.
July 24, 2008 Raw interview with the Sheriff Investigators.
July 31, 2008 Raw interview with the FBI

Thank you!  This is exactly how I feel.  Whatever pain or humiliation that comes, they brought it on.  No one has mentioned the "new" video of Caylee that NG has.  Is there any reason at all to think they didn't license that?  I don't think either of them are working yet.  I'm only slightly upset that this BS might cause some juror the have a doubt.  I think before this is over the state's case will be overwhelming.  They will all get what they deserve.  JMO


We all do not condone their previous conduct & agree they need to reap what they sow for that, but these accusations Casey & her defense are putting forward go beyond the pale even for them.  We all would be devastated & pretty disgusted if these horrendous allegations were lodged against us whether we are completely upstanding or have flaws of our own.

I agree with you Capp.  Any person would be devastated and disgusted sitting in the Anthony's position. That was why I think Baez used such a vile disgusting description
of the sexual abuse. For for the shock affect and it worked. People left and right instantly felt sorry the the Anthony's, I know I did because it was so revolting to hear.
I do not think what Baez said was right or truthful and I am sure it hurt like hell for the Anthony's to hear that and know that it came from their daughter.

When I went back and listened to George's statements to the Sheriff on July 24, 2008 and all 7 parts of the FBI statements on July 31, 2008 it made me repulsed and disgusted with the Anthony's all over again. George lied on the stand again. The Anthony's need to stop the lies. They have impacted so many lives with their lies and spins.



Sorry I got in your quote Capp

CarolF - I'm listening to George's statement.  I just finished the July 24 interview with the sheriff.

You stated above that George lied on the stand again.

Would you please spell that out for me what the lie was he made on the stand, so I can listen for it? TIA



http://www.wftv.com/video/18032897/index.html

Its in the FBI statements.  And I am trying to limit myself to what was said in court.
They really didn't go deeply in questioning George but some of the things so far.

George talking about Casey's pregnancy and he is telling the FBI he wanted to know who the father was and questioned Casey about it.

In court he said he was just trilled she was pregnant and who the father was could wait he was not concerned about it at all.

He also testified in court he had no idea what gas can he took to the tow yard but clearly states to the FBI it was the old round gas can.

About mowing his lawn. Telling FBI he mowed every week. In court he has no idea how often he mows the yard.

These are just little things that Bozo asked him about in court, I thought how weird he is asking these questions. Well he is going by the statements that George made and is trying to establish that this whole family lies so who can you believe.

I think this is why bozo wants the Grand Jury Deposition. To pick apart every little thing he can that George has said in the past.

[/quote]

CarolF - TY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 08:13:18 PM
Messd up the quotes, sorry! Yes, I was confused about the dent. Thank you fore helping me out. Much appreciated!

Tks 4 getting back to me about the dent.
These so much stuff, it's hard to keep things straight.... ::MonkeyBike::

Yes, thanks for understanding. It is a lot to keep straight for sure. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 08:13:26 PM
Loca - full article at this link as well:

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/may/03/casey-anthonys-lawyer-jose-baez-rejected-florida-b/?print=1 (http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/may/03/casey-anthonys-lawyer-jose-baez-rejected-florida-b/?print=1)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 08:15:44 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.  We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong - George in his July 24, 2008, statement to the sheriff, KC, in the past 2 - 2 1/2 months had a new set of friends.

Now...the Journal page dated June 21...it says something like: I've surrounded myself with new friends or people I like (words to that effect). 

Those two should put that June 21 page as "2008".  Right?  That da**ing journal page that they've tried to say was written years before.

If memory serves, yeah

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image81-2.png)

The Journal.

I am two pages behind, hope this is still relevant.

It is, Brandi - TY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 08:16:09 PM
snipped from: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1207&start=1100 Fix link-add space.  MB
JB and Casey are two or a kind, cut from the same cloth.

Let me refresh your memory on JB's past history in the legal profession!


Henry Pierson Curtis Sentinel Staff Writer

May 3, 2009

ORLANDO — His defense of a young mother charged with killing her toddler has transformed José Ángel Baez into one of the best-known lawyers in America.

For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other “financial irresponsibility” up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.

"His overall behavior", they wrote, showed “A total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law.”He worked instead as a paralegal for the Miami-Dade public defender and then taught Internet research to lawyers and started four business ventures, including two bikini companies. Before Florida Bar officials admitted him in 2005, he had to demonstrate that he had rehabilitated himself.Read the rest here:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 8904.story

So what is JB doing this weekend? A narcissist like JB is confident he can continue to lie and con his way through and plant reasonable doubt with the jury.

There's A FINE LINE BETWEEN A DONKEY AND A JACK ASS, but I think JB has crossed that line!

JB aka JA! will continue to think he's the smartest guy in the room. Just watch...He and Casey are two of a kind.
sorry the orlando link is no longer available

Sounds like he and KC were made for each other! Extravagent spending and all! Blech.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 29, 2011, 08:18:00 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image81-2.png)

The Journal.

I am two pages behind, hope this is still relevant.

It is, Brandi - TY


Yes, it is. Wish she would have written more in depth about what "the right decision" was!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 08:20:16 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.  We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong - George in his July 24, 2008, statement to the sheriff, KC, in the past 2 - 2 1/2 months had a new set of friends.

Now...the Journal page dated June 21...it says something like: I've surrounded myself with new friends or people I like (words to that effect). 

Those two should put that June 21 page as "2008".  Right?  That da**ing journal page that they've tried to say was written years before.

If memory serves, yeah

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image81-2.png)

The Journal.

I am two pages behind, hope this is still relevant.

It is, Brandi - TY


Will this come into court??... ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 08:21:58 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)
Brandi, is there a copy of the envelope that came with this letter?  The date is 2010.  Could that be a typo, or have G & C known for over a year?

Great catch!!!

I believe the year is incorrect - I'm thinking this letter was written 2011 - in March of this year was the first, IIRC, that we heard the defense was thinking about going the route of blaming George.

Then in April, the defense announced to the A's that they would be their tactic in court.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 08:22:16 PM
Loca - full article at this link as well:

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/may/03/casey-anthonys-lawyer-jose-baez-rejected-florida-b/?print=1 (http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/may/03/casey-anthonys-lawyer-jose-baez-rejected-florida-b/?print=1)

Klaas
thank you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 08:23:27 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 08:24:03 PM
I also think the Ant's are seething at Baez because they believe this is all his doing. . . again thinking Casey is not capable of doing this to them.

Her letter to her jailmate indicates otherwise, March 25, 2010 was the day after George was informed about the letters.

Okay, so the year was 2010?  I got that wrong.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 08:24:41 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 08:29:28 PM
Most of us have this case memorized. The jury doesn't and it all can't come in, else the trial will go on for three years.
There are many thing I have questioned about the ANTS for all these years. I do not think there was an accident or that George was involved on June 16th. However, they are going to have to sell some reasonable explanation as why they behaved the way they did to that jury.
When Cindy was on the stand yesterday, I wanted Linda to ask her : Why did you believe that crap ? It's one thing to not give your kid the third degree about where they went and all of that, but she had Caylee with her. Caylee was spending 4 to 5 nights a week at Ricardo's. That was so inappropriate and why didn't they figure things out sooner ?   
It would be good if Cindy would she has been recieving grief counseling and believes she was in denial..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 08:30:04 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks

If you're looking for the video where George got sick, it's in the links of the FBI interview toward the end of July.  You can find it here (just scroll down to the right date):   http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

Or, if you're lookin for Lee's interview...maybe it's on the same link (I'm not sure).



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 29, 2011, 08:30:25 PM
for anyone who cares to know lol
geraldo at large is now back in new york and is having an exclusive tonight.

Thanks!  I caught the end of his "preview" a little while ago and his opinions will make the blood pressure rise and the barf-o-meter go off the charts!!  ( If I was George, I would try my best to see if I could sue for slander....if possible!!  Geraldo seems frantic, in my view-so no holds barred. )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 29, 2011, 08:31:59 PM
I also think the Ant's are seething at Baez because they believe this is all his doing. . . again thinking Casey is not capable of doing this to them.

You know, it must be an awful shock & hard to take.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: karenmamo on May 29, 2011, 08:33:41 PM
The jury already heard the OS. Damage done. I don't believe any of it, but that is me.
They didn't hear Tony L's testimony and we don't know if they will hear that part of his testimony about the non abuse.
If Lippman's motion is what Hornsby thinks it is, there will be no more about it.
Lippman knew what avenue the defense was going to take, why wasn't this motion filed before ?
I still think that George and Cindy are still helping her in a more obtuse and smarter way.
I want to be wrong, but I can't see Cindy telling it like it was, pre June 15 in that house.
The fights, the conning Cindy into babysitting so she could go to her non job. The spending of Cindy's money, the no consequences for Casey. I think Cindy and George put up with it because they wanted Caylee to live there,and the price was what Casey spent out of Cindy's accounts.
Cindy was great on that stand yesterday, but really what did she testify to ? Nothing that isn't public knowledge.
The jury also didn't see that melt down at the end.
........
On another note, does anyone know the dates when George wasn't living on Hopespring ?
George was off work for quite a while, he would have been at home in the am to babysit  Caylee until Casey got home from her non job.
Kat, you said:  Cindy was great on that stand yesterday, but really what did she testify to ? Nothing that isn't public knowledge.
Your words were truth, but we all must realize how important it is for the jury to hear her testimony...not important to the general public. Does that make sense?  How upset we would have been again with Cindy had she continued that denial under oath!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: karenmamo on May 29, 2011, 08:37:58 PM
Listening to George's interview with the sheriff:

Last 2 - 2 1/2 months all of KC's old friends are gone and she has new friends.

George doesn't want to meet "this Tony".  Afraid of how he'll act around Tony.

Fast forward to the first week of trial:  "This Tony" saved George, literally, by testifying that KC never told him that George sexually molested her.


In that interview George is denoting that Casey has a new set of friends.   At the time he may have know his daughter was a ho but in the contents of this interview I'm thinking he was acting like a father thinking "this Tony" may have been a bad influence on Casey and/or had something to do with what happened to Caylee.   It seems to me that George was conflicted with wanting to be a decent father (past issues and all) & disgusted with his daughter's behavior.   He was so disgusted with her behavior that pictures of her being the partying ho she is made him ill.  We all know that George & Cindy minimized Casey's prior bad acts & despite all that was put before them wanted to shift blame everywhere else but Casey & them.   Add to that George is the type of man that struggles with ego issues & the fact that his wife was took control.   His wife's adamant efforts to protect Casey at all cost even had him going to LE in secret because he was not getting over the smell in that car, they both knew what it meant I will never waver on that.    It is a hot mess & if they truly are standing for Caylee now they are going to have to come clean with their lies & retract with honest humility that they did indeed do things they are not proud of to help their daughter BUT they can no longer ignore the truth.   If the Anthonys tell the truth, their credibility may be questioned but being honest about it now would only serve to show why as parents they did so but they cannot overcome what Casey has done to their granddaughter.

I will continue to pray that they will be there honestly & for Caylee no matter the consequence to Casey or themselves.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)

Thanks Brandi

This letter bothers me for many reasons.  It is not a letter of denial.  It is not a letter demanding to know why Casey is lying.  Instead ... George uses each member of the family as leverage in a futile attempt to persuade his daughter not to go down this avenue of defence.

Those are the exact words that a father used to keep a sexually abuse survivor we know from speaking out at an early age... a sexual abuse survivor who is a very close friend of my daughter.  Something akin to Casey ... prior to receiving professional counselling and ... turning her life around ... this now happily married wife and mother ... went down the road of promiscuity for many years ... search for love in all the wrong places.

I hope I am wrong but ... I am not convinced that Casey is lying in regards to the sexual abuse allegation.  However ... any sexual abuse that may have occurred does not justify Casey's actions in those 31 days.  Casey has to be held accountable.  Justice for Caylee demands it.

What did the the unreleased suicide letter written by George reveal?  Think about it.  As far as I am aware there has not been one word of objection by the prosecution to the disgusting allegations within the defence's opening statement.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road. And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html



I'm VERY confused!  I was reading the jailhouse letters and CA told the story of Lee & then said she "thought" something had happened with her father because she would dream about her room the way it was when she was much younger and then wake up sick.  She never said GA molested her.  She said she needed to think about it more or something like that.  Did she say so later on in the letters?  Sorry I don't have time to find a link - sneaking in a break while cooking dinner!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
Can someone provide a link to FBI agent Nick Savage's depo? I cannot read the one posted at WS because the docstoc one is defective.
What I did manage to read was that they gave the Ants some sort of questionaire to fill out.
It is frustrating to read something that turns blank as you are scrolling. TIA

I downloaded the doc stop one and use another pDF viewer to read it.  It was horrible trying to read it on their site.  I would scroll down and the page would disappear, and then skip 3 pages, and you could not see end of the page. 

Most of the time when they load like you are describing your computer is out of ram memory. It might work better if you close out all your other windows when doing a PDF document.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 08:40:41 PM
Janet, some smart monkey posted a link where I found this: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery/

Lots of info there. Depos, interviews, etc.

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 08:41:26 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

Me too! That's what I read.  She said she thought something may have happened with her father because she would wake up from dreams of her old bedroom as a child sick at her stomach.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 08:42:38 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks

http://kreuzer33.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/fbi-releases-interviews-with-casey-anthonys-parents/

FBI Releases Interviews with Casey Anthony’s Parents

Five DVD’s of videotaped interviews with George and Cindy Anthony conducted by the FBI back in July were released earlier today. In the interviews, FBI agents questioned the Anthony’s about Casey’s lies and it seems that Casey was stealing money from everyone, according to her father. Does this surprise anyone?

From Fox News:

In the interview it seems Casey Anthony not only stole money from her friends and her parents but also from her own daughter. George Anthony told the FBI. “She was taking money from my granddaughter’s bank cause I am going in there dropping 5 bucks quarters and one day that bank is heavy its a good size piggy bank and you know you put money in there you know it and there is nothing.”

George Anthony said Casey would steal from his wife’s bank account, use the family’s credit card and that’s not all. Caylee’s grandfather says she also was stealing the money out of the account George set up for his grandaughter’s future, the $30.00 a month he put away for her college gone. “That account was up to 300 , 400 dollars I think there is 5 dollars in it right now.”

George Anthony said this was one of many things that he made him suspicious about Casey’s employment, but what he said was even stranger he saw a resume of Casey’s, no mention of universal, instead she said she was a nanny. “I confronted her about that I said why is this and she said dad this is what I was thinking about doing and I said why would you put it down on a resume it makes no sense.”

George said there were so many things he didn’t know from who her boyfriends were to what she was up to. He said it wasn’t until cops seized the computer that there were 1,200 questionable photos of his daughter found. “I even got sick about that I thought I knew my daughter and I don’t know what’s going on.”
 ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b6a_1227338439  Part 1
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cde_1227341376  Part 2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: can on May 29, 2011, 08:43:36 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)
Brandi, is there a copy of the envelope that came with this letter?  The date is 2010.  Could that be a typo, or have G & C known for over a year?

Great catch!!!

I believe the year is incorrect - I'm thinking this letter was written 2011 - in March of this year was the first, IIRC, that we heard the defense was thinking about going the route of blaming George.

Then in April, the defense announced to the A's that they would be their tactic in court.



In the letter above George asks Casey.  "why, why also destroy Caylee Marie"

Could this suggest he is letting Casey know he thinks she is responsible for Caylee's death?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 29, 2011, 08:44:23 PM
for anyone who cares to know lol
geraldo at large is now back in new york and is having an exclusive tonight.

Thanks!  I caught the end of his "preview" a little while ago and his opinions will make the blood pressure rise and the barf-o-meter go off the charts!!  ( If I was George, I would try my best to see if I could sue for slander....if possible!!  Geraldo seems frantic, in my view-so no holds barred. )

someone posted awhile back (sorry don't remember who) that he was playing into it to get the "jailhouse interview" after she's convicted.  THAT makes alot of sense to me!  (plus he's an idiot & there's tons of people in the news anti Casey and few pro Casey so he'd definitely get some air time!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 29, 2011, 08:45:11 PM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.

Well, it appears I pegged that one...seems to me that will be what Lippman's motion is in regard to

Hello Monks---

So, let me see if I have this right.  A young mother is being tried in a capital murder case accused of killing her toddler.  Her attorney presents a defense as we are all entitled to have our attorneys do under similar circumstances.  The defendant is not required to disprove the states charges. (Yes, I know, a ridiculous defense, but their defense nonetheless.)  Then an attorney for two witnesses, grandparents of the victim, files to force the defense to prove their case to him, the attorney for the two witnesses, and/or abandon it.  The defense attorney cannot be sued for slander as what is said in court is protected.   By doing this, the defense would be forced to admit the theory is a lie.  Do you two really think a third party could interject himself in a murder case in this way and demolish the defense theory and de facto admit guilt? You don't think this would be a violation of Casey Anthony's Constitution rights? 


It's just my opinion, but I think there are some "Worries" here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: karenmamo on May 29, 2011, 08:46:34 PM
Has anyone found the July 24th video ? I have been searching like crazy. The written word isnt as good as seeing and hearing it. George had to go puke because Yuri and JA gave him a reality check. I believe George knew Caylee was dead all along but went along with Cindy because she was losing her mind. Remember how much weight she lost, so fast? and her zombie interview where George had to do all the talking.. I also think another part of her felt she could still 'fix' this ..

The zombie interview was in Nov of 08..and around or very near in time to when Dom Casey is out probing around with Jim Hoover looking for Caylee.

Also I thought in that July 24  interview they did show George pics of Casey..was that another interview then?
Yes, there were 1200 pictures retrieved from Cindy's laptop that Casey used. There is another interview or part of this one was removed.  We all know we read all about that at one time.  I want to see it or read it again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 29, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
Make that Constitutional rights.  The rest stands as it is, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/

Baez, Lippman, and the Scandalous Allegations
May 29th, 2011 by Richard Hornsby. 44 comments

Many people are speculating on what the motion filed by George and Cindy Anthony’s attorney Mark Lippman is about.

Below is my opinion that I posted on Websleuth’s regarding what it is likely about, as well as my post on why Jose Baez can  make such scandalous allegations in the first place.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 08:49:35 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks

http://kreuzer33.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/fbi-releases-interviews-with-casey-anthonys-parents/

FBI Releases Interviews with Casey Anthony’s Parents

Five DVD’s of videotaped interviews with George and Cindy Anthony conducted by the FBI back in July were released earlier today. In the interviews, FBI agents questioned the Anthony’s about Casey’s lies and it seems that Casey was stealing money from everyone, according to her father. Does this surprise anyone?

From Fox News:

In the interview it seems Casey Anthony not only stole money from her friends and her parents but also from her own daughter. George Anthony told the FBI. “She was taking money from my granddaughter’s bank cause I am going in there dropping 5 bucks quarters and one day that bank is heavy its a good size piggy bank and you know you put money in there you know it and there is nothing.”

George Anthony said Casey would steal from his wife’s bank account, use the family’s credit card and that’s not all. Caylee’s grandfather says she also was stealing the money out of the account George set up for his grandaughter’s future, the $30.00 a month he put away for her college gone. “That account was up to 300 , 400 dollars I think there is 5 dollars in it right now.”

George Anthony said this was one of many things that he made him suspicious about Casey’s employment, but what he said was even stranger he saw a resume of Casey’s, no mention of universal, instead she said she was a nanny. “I confronted her about that I said why is this and she said dad this is what I was thinking about doing and I said why would you put it down on a resume it makes no sense.”

George said there were so many things he didn’t know from who her boyfriends were to what she was up to. He said it wasn’t until cops seized the computer that there were 1,200 questionable photos of his daughter found. “I even got sick about that I thought I knew my daughter and I don’t know what’s going on.”
 ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b6a_1227338439  Part 1
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cde_1227341376  Part 2

Interview where they talk about the 1200 photos


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 08:56:13 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)
Brandi, is there a copy of the envelope that came with this letter?  The date is 2010.  Could that be a typo, or have G & C known for over a year?

It is not a typo...it was a year ago when this was written.....I have always thought what they were told was the 'supposed' sexual abuse by Lee...which accounts for the first 'Why.....why also destroy Lee'

I also have always felt, nothing but a feeling, that there is another page to this letter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 08:56:25 PM
OK. I am looking for George Anthony's video from July 24,2008 with OCSO with Yuri and John Allen. I had seen it once before but cannot find it now. In the transcipt they tell him that KC had 1200 pics in her computer, some were disturbing (paraphrase) and in all of those pics of her and her friends, there was no Zenaida. George was waiting for Lee to show up so they could hear the 911 calls before they were released to the public. Then he excused himself to puke


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 08:56:55 PM
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/

Baez, Lippman, and the Scandalous Allegations
May 29th, 2011 by Richard Hornsby. 44 comments

Many people are speculating on what the motion filed by George and Cindy Anthony’s attorney Mark Lippman is about.

Below is my opinion that I posted on Websleuth’s regarding what it is likely about, as well as my post on why Jose Baez can  make such scandalous allegations in the first place.

Just an FYI regarding Hornsby

This....

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5068/5774130430_76da81bf92_o.jpg)

and this..

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2196/5774130448_f586996d7c_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: melisb on May 29, 2011, 08:59:59 PM
I know this conversation of the pool ladder was early this am but I just wanted to add my one cent to it...CA would IMO never, ever, leave the ladder connected to the pool!!!  First thing is Caylee was the love of her life and would never leave something around for her to hurt herself on, 2. have you seen how clean and orderly the Ant home is?  Always clean, things always in the same place and you can tell they care for their things and take care of them almost to the point of being anal.  My hubby hates it cause I keep our home common areas that way and when something is out of place I have to fix it asap.  That is why I am certain she put the ladder up.  I think we all agree on that.  But how handy was it for Casey to use the fact that it would have been the very woman who cared for her more that her own mother to be the one that caused her death and GA covered it up.  She makes me sick!!!  I want her gone!!  When Cindy was watching the pics of Caylees bed and cried I felt sorry for her in a human way I haven't felt for her since the very first couple of days this began. In fact, I balled my eyes out!  She really loved her but I can't forget how she has acted since it became obvious Casey was at fault.  Sorry y'all, just home from work and unwinding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
Lol I am sure caseys weekend is filled with anxiety and paranoia. I also wonder if baez is stressing too! he has alot of explaining to do. He has the issue of the 68,000 and than there's lippman's motion!
and I am wondering since sindy may decide to be honest  and say she lied to cover up for her daughter! will she also tell of some of the unethical things baez has asked them to do! to  build his career. He has more or less this case fell on his  lap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 09:01:16 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137922&page=6

 ::snipping2::


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The State DID file a Motion in Limine and it was GRANTED.
The State mentioned this matter in open court on Thursday May 27, 2011, and the Judge GRANTED it in open court the next day Friday May 28, 2011 (even though there is nothing on the Clerk's docket - yet)

Trial Thursday May 26, 2011
Ashton - we have motion in limine, was going to file in writing - ask court require defendant to proffer questions, before they elicit hearsay statements of defendant, so we don't have questions and objections all the time
Judge now or in the morning 8:30?
Baez - motion in limine in middle of trial? certainly past your deadline
Ashton - based on conduct of counsel in trial
Judge - file motion, I decide if it's timely and go from there

Trial Friday May 27, 2011
State's motion in limine
LDB - statements from witnesses w/o proffer to court as to admissibility of info in the question
counsel has been asking witnesses things that the defendant may or may not have said to them, clear violation of evidence code, exceptions for hearsay
causes us repeatedly, once the question is out, to object to this type of ... detrimental to our position in front of the jury
we are not asking that you prohibit the question, asking that counsel be ordered to proffer any time he wants to ask question about defendant's hearsay

Baez - untimely motion, perfect timing for prosecution, parading witnesses... now preclude that might hurt their prosecution, smart and strategical move, limits cross exam based on....
defense, there are topics that are sensitive in nature, come close to being objectionable, limiting our cross exam clearly obstructs truth finding process, issues that ....
don't need advance notice what witness testify to, not a scripted event, not know what witness testify to or change once take stand, require proffer, allow state witness to give prosecutor advance preview of what cross exam is going to be, defense prejudiced, the state has been impermissibly been allowed to introduce...
we have theory of defense, right to explore it, have witnesses on the spot and ask specific questions, if objection to question, prosecution capable of objecting, not require us stopping, preferring, and giving them advance notice of what asked of particular witness

Judge - Ch 90 FL evidence code, framework was evidence is admissible, , must meet requirement of ch 90, this motion deals with attempts by defense to elicit statements by defendant from other witnesses, those under evidence code self serving, when attempted by the defense, basically 3 exceptions to that, not go into may permit some of these. Under those 3, foundation requirements must be asked before those questions asked, as of yet no attempt to establish those foundational requirements, not admissible , State motion in limine statements of defendant be proffered will be granted

::snipping2::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 09:01:25 PM
Lol I am sure caseys weekend is filled with anxiety and paranoia. I also wonder if baez is stressing too! he has alot of explaining to do. He has the issue of the 68,000 and than there's lippman's motion!
and I am wondering since sindy may decide to be honest  and say she lied to cover up for her daughter! will she also tell of some of the unethical things baez has asked them to do! to  build his career. He has more or less this case fell on his  lap.
he has said more less this case was lucky for him ... kinda landed on his lap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 09:03:57 PM
Websleuths will be talking about this case on their radio boardcast.
When did they get a radio station.
I for one wouldn't listen to her.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 09:04:31 PM
This is the transcript
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony072408.pdf (http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony072408.pdf)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2011, 09:05:13 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)
Brandi, is there a copy of the envelope that came with this letter?  The date is 2010.  Could that be a typo, or have G & C known for over a year?

It is not a typo...it was a year ago when this was written.....I have always thought what they were told was the 'supposed' sexual abuse by Lee...which accounts for the first 'Why.....why also destroy Lee'

I also have always felt, nothing but a feeling, that there is another page to this letter.

It does seem like there should be a second page, but if there was, it was not released.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 09:15:22 PM
Here are all the letters sent to Casey by family members:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/062510anthony-jail-letters1/indexGallery.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 09:15:38 PM
I also think the Ant's are seething at Baez because they believe this is all his doing. . . again thinking Casey is not capable of doing this to them.

Her letter to her jailmate indicates otherwise, March 25, 2010 was the day after George was informed about the letters.

Okay, so the year was 2010?  I got that wrong.  Thanks.
Puzzler.....dont worry about it....EVERYONE gets it wrong every now and then...there is so much to try to remember and even with notes it's difficult! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 09:15:52 PM
Casey has always had the same look in her eyes that we see still to this day.  A photo of Casey sitting by the Christmas tree, that was posted a few days or so back, shows that look and we talked about the look in her eyes then.  That look was there several years before the age of 8, when George was supposed to have started abusing her.   just sayin'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 09:17:21 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks

DITTO....I finally gave it up it gave me such a headache!! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 09:21:07 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks

http://kreuzer33.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/fbi-releases-interviews-with-casey-anthonys-parents/

FBI Releases Interviews with Casey Anthony’s Parents

Five DVD’s of videotaped interviews with George and Cindy Anthony conducted by the FBI back in July were released earlier today. In the interviews, FBI agents questioned the Anthony’s about Casey’s lies and it seems that Casey was stealing money from everyone, according to her father. Does this surprise anyone?

From Fox News:

In the interview it seems Casey Anthony not only stole money from her friends and her parents but also from her own daughter. George Anthony told the FBI. “She was taking money from my granddaughter’s bank cause I am going in there dropping 5 bucks quarters and one day that bank is heavy its a good size piggy bank and you know you put money in there you know it and there is nothing.”

George Anthony said Casey would steal from his wife’s bank account, use the family’s credit card and that’s not all. Caylee’s grandfather says she also was stealing the money out of the account George set up for his grandaughter’s future, the $30.00 a month he put away for her college gone. “That account was up to 300 , 400 dollars I think there is 5 dollars in it right now.”

George Anthony said this was one of many things that he made him suspicious about Casey’s employment, but what he said was even stranger he saw a resume of Casey’s, no mention of universal, instead she said she was a nanny. “I confronted her about that I said why is this and she said dad this is what I was thinking about doing and I said why would you put it down on a resume it makes no sense.”

George said there were so many things he didn’t know from who her boyfriends were to what she was up to. He said it wasn’t until cops seized the computer that there were 1,200 questionable photos of his daughter found. “I even got sick about that I thought I knew my daughter and I don’t know what’s going on.”
 ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b6a_1227338439  Part 1
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cde_1227341376  Part 2

thanks Klaas... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gizzie on May 29, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
OK. I am looking for George Anthony's video from July 24,2008 with OCSO with Yuri and John Allen. I had seen it once before but cannot find it now. In the transcipt they tell him that KC had 1200 pics in her computer, some were disturbing (paraphrase) and in all of those pics of her and her friends, there was no Zenaida. George was waiting for Lee to show up so they could hear the 911 calls before they were released to the public. Then he excused himself to puke

http://www.wftv.com/video/17934383/index.html

I just listened to this entire interview again and with headphones on this time, and at the very end is when YM says over the radio to the other detective that "George is throwing up back here".  It's like the last 15 seconds of the tape.

Also, I don't think I caught it the first time I listened to this recording but I heard George say just above his breath, Jesus Ch**** Casey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 09:25:25 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 09:26:49 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.
Sunny, that sounds very plausible..when did Ga stop attending her hearings?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 09:29:10 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)
so weird considering that the teddy bear cindy slept with to remind her of caylee! disappeared... wow thanks for posting this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 09:31:07 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)
::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 09:37:48 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks


You wanna get a headache? Try catching all the testimonies....I think I have seen them all and then find out I missed something...I wish I would find them labeled as to who is testifying in each video so that I can quit re-watching the same ones and missing others....seriously thinking about taking a leave of absence from work due to court obligations.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

DITTO....I finally gave it up it gave me such a headache!! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

Yep was in Casey's photobucket

Casey's full photobucket account - be sure to check on the right hand side as there are several SUB albums.

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks


You wanna get a headache? Try catching all the testimonies....I think I have seen them all and then find out I missed something...I wish I would find them labeled as to who is testifying in each video so that I can quit re-watching the same ones and missing others....seriously thinking about taking a leave of absence from work due to court obligations.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

DITTO....I finally gave it up it gave me such a headache!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sorry Sunny! See what I mean... I got in your quote box... I do need a break...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 09:47:57 PM
Websleuths will be talking about this case on their radio boardcast.
When did they get a radio station.
I for one wouldn't listen to her.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/

They have had their radio broadcast for a couple months that I know of....I haven't listened to it yet....but would have no hesitations......but not when Hornsby is on....he is a smart attorney, but a pompass ass IMO. I have often thought he states what he would do for JB's benefit.....  I like to listen to Dana's show the next day instead of real time. I always had trouble with the broadcast real time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 09:48:36 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.

Yes, that does sound like it could be what happened, makes sense.  I just can't help but feel that Casey and the defense stalled until they had all the evidence and concocted a story, adding in George's help with Caylee, to try to fit it.....with a lot of help from bloggers, I might add.  Maybe George was just saying I think it was an accident that snowballed as Casey loved Caylee.   But the DC incident does put doubt on that theory.

Yep, so far kudos for George and Cindy.  Hope they have seen the light and will do the right thing, which should be quite simple, it's just telling the truth.

I'm still getting a kick out of Casey's meltdown yesterday.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: karenmamo on May 29, 2011, 09:48:52 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks

http://kreuzer33.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/fbi-releases-interviews-with-casey-anthonys-parents/

FBI Releases Interviews with Casey Anthony’s Parents

Five DVD’s of videotaped interviews with George and Cindy Anthony conducted by the FBI back in July were released earlier today. In the interviews, FBI agents questioned the Anthony’s about Casey’s lies and it seems that Casey was stealing money from everyone, according to her father. Does this surprise anyone?

From Fox News:

In the interview it seems Casey Anthony not only stole money from her friends and her parents but also from her own daughter. George Anthony told the FBI. “She was taking money from my granddaughter’s bank cause I am going in there dropping 5 bucks quarters and one day that bank is heavy its a good size piggy bank and you know you put money in there you know it and there is nothing.”

George Anthony said Casey would steal from his wife’s bank account, use the family’s credit card and that’s not all. Caylee’s grandfather says she also was stealing the money out of the account George set up for his grandaughter’s future, the $30.00 a month he put away for her college gone. “That account was up to 300 , 400 dollars I think there is 5 dollars in it right now.”

George Anthony said this was one of many things that he made him suspicious about Casey’s employment, but what he said was even stranger he saw a resume of Casey’s, no mention of universal, instead she said she was a nanny. “I confronted her about that I said why is this and she said dad this is what I was thinking about doing and I said why would you put it down on a resume it makes no sense.”

George said there were so many things he didn’t know from who her boyfriends were to what she was up to. He said it wasn’t until cops seized the computer that there were 1,200 questionable photos of his daughter found. “I even got sick about that I thought I knew my daughter and I don’t know what’s going on.”
 ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b6a_1227338439  Part 1
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cde_1227341376  Part 2
Thank you so much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 09:49:40 PM
Websleuths will be talking about this case on their radio boardcast.
When did they get a radio station.
I for one wouldn't listen to her.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/

They have had their radio broadcast for a couple months that I know of....I haven't listened to it yet....but would have no hesitations......but not when Hornsby is on....he is a smart attorney, but a pompass ass IMO. I have often thought he states what he would do for JB's benefit.....  I like to listen to Dana's show the next day instead of real time. I always had trouble with the broadcast real time.


I would listen to him as well Sunny....just don't have much luck posting there...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 09:50:33 PM
From Casey's photobucket.  Casey and Chris Stutz

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/PICT0366.jpg)

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/#!cpZZ2QQtppZZ36


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 09:51:57 PM
Also from Casey's photobucket.  Casey and Tony:

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/Picture1-1.jpg)

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/#!cpZZ2QQtppZZ36


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 09:53:24 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

this one always freaked me out.....and another one of a little girl in the swampy looking area.....gave me the creeps. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: karenmamo on May 29, 2011, 09:53:47 PM
OK. I am looking for George Anthony's video from July 24,2008 with OCSO with Yuri and John Allen. I had seen it once before but cannot find it now. In the transcipt they tell him that KC had 1200 pics in her computer, some were disturbing (paraphrase) and in all of those pics of her and her friends, there was no Zenaida. George was waiting for Lee to show up so they could hear the 911 calls before they were released to the public. Then he excused himself to puke
Yes, that is the one I am looking for. I am listening to and watching all the links you wonderful monkeys are giving. But this other interview had many interesting things in it...in the interview I want to hear George is talking about his son Lee also!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 29, 2011, 09:54:03 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

Yep was in Casey's photobucket

Casey's full photobucket account - be sure to check on the right hand side as there are several SUB albums.

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/

I've see this before but swore it said..why do people kill people that kill people to show that killing people is wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 09:54:46 PM
From Casey's photobucket.  Casey and Chris Stutz

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/PICT0366.jpg)

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/#!cpZZ2QQtppZZ36


hmmmm.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 09:55:08 PM
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/l_0e60262ccaf85b29ea6cf96336f45bd0.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

Yep was in Casey's photobucket

Casey's full photobucket account - be sure to check on the right hand side as there are several SUB albums.

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/

I've see this before but swore it said..why do people kill people that kill people to show that killing people is wrong.


Me too curly!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 09:56:07 PM
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/IMG_2395b-1-1.jpg)

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/#!cpZZ5QQtppZZ36


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 09:56:31 PM
Good thing Casey can't be convicted for being a ho-bag....she would be done for sure...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.
Sunny, that sounds very plausible..when did Ga stop attending her hearings?

IIRC shortly after this letter was written.....I am the laptop and the files are on the desktop and it's not hooked up now....but it was near the time the why letter was written....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 29, 2011, 09:58:36 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.

Hi Sunny--
As I recall, Baez did ask George if he had been prepped by the State the previous night.  There was an objection and the judge read the law which permits the attorneys to go over testimony with a witness, prior to their taking the stand.  It's my understanding that under FL law, both the defense and the State must furnish the other party with a copy of their opening statement so that there are no surprises.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 10:00:06 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

this one always freaked me out.....and another one of a little girl in the swampy looking area.....gave me the creeps.  

It looked from the trees exactly where the body was found.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/lovenightscene-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:00:17 PM
I have spent hours today looking at all the links with depos, etc.
I cannot find one.
When George was told about those 1200 images and he got sick. Lee came after George got sick.
Why can I not locate the pdf or the video for that interview?
darnnnnnittt......can anyone provide that for me?
TIA
::monkeywine2::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I have been looking for that for almost 2 weeks


You wanna get a headache? Try catching all the testimonies....I think I have seen them all and then find out I missed something...I wish I would find them labeled as to who is testifying in each video so that I can quit re-watching the same ones and missing others....seriously thinking about taking a leave of absence from work due to court obligations.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

DITTO....I finally gave it up it gave me such a headache!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

my dear cubbee....you can keep that headache thank you very much!!! ::MonkeyDevil:: Wish I could help with the labeling for ya.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 29, 2011, 10:00:56 PM
The state and George "Anticipated" it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 29, 2011, 10:03:07 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

Yep was in Casey's photobucket

Casey's full photobucket account - be sure to check on the right hand side as there are several SUB albums.

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/

I've see this before but swore it said..why do people kill people that kill people to show that killing people is wrong.


Me too curly!!!!

Good! Glad to hear I'm not hallucinating!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:05:08 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 10:06:23 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

Now the teddy bear makes so sense to me.
Was it's Caylee's favorite thing?.... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:06:29 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:06:46 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.

Yes, that does sound like it could be what happened, makes sense.  I just can't help but feel that Casey and the defense stalled until they had all the evidence and concocted a story, adding in George's help with Caylee, to try to fit it.....with a lot of help from bloggers, I might add.  Maybe George was just saying I think it was an accident that snowballed as Casey loved Caylee.   But the DC incident does put doubt on that theory.

Yep, so far kudos for George and Cindy.  Hope they have seen the light and will do the right thing, which should be quite simple, it's just telling the truth.

I'm still getting a kick out of Casey's meltdown yesterday.   ::MonkeyDevil::

If as many of us think, Dom Casey, received use immunity for his investigative statement with the LE, I think he will fill in some black holes for us.  ::MonkeyDevil:: Tupelo, I have watched it at least 20 times....LOL...and have sent to to everyone I could think of....I really take great pleasure in seeing her anguish.....and seeing REAL tears...of course they were tears of anger, tears  for herself.....I was fixin to tell JB I would volunteer for the job of poking her in the eyes to get the fake tears on cue ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:09:18 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

Yep was in Casey's photobucket

Casey's full photobucket account - be sure to check on the right hand side as there are several SUB albums.

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/

I've see this before but swore it said..why do people kill people that kill people to show that killing people is wrong.

LOL...it did....tupelo's friends just changed the wording.....did ya think you were going cookoo?? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 10:09:33 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would not hit the button on the remote to watch that worthless fool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:09:49 PM
joey jackson on geraldo says she will get the DP  he is on geraldo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:10:17 PM
joey jackson on geraldo says she will get the DP  he is on geraldo.
p.s for those that dont know he is an attorney and sometimes appears on nancys panel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:10:54 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would not hit the button on the remote to watch that worthless fool.
turbo i cant stand gerlado  but I want to see if theres anyone contradicting him! and there is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 29, 2011, 10:12:14 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

Yep was in Casey's photobucket

Casey's full photobucket account - be sure to check on the right hand side as there are several SUB albums.

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/

I've see this before but swore it said..why do people kill people that kill people to show that killing people is wrong.

LOL...it did....tupelo's friends just changed the wording.....did ya think you were going cookoo?? ::MonkeyTongue::

Uhm...yeah!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:12:16 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

Yep was in Casey's photobucket

Casey's full photobucket account - be sure to check on the right hand side as there are several SUB albums.

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/

I've see this before but swore it said..why do people kill people that kill people to show that killing people is wrong.

LOL...it did....tupelo's friends just changed the wording.....did ya think you were going cookoo?? ::MonkeyTongue::


I did ..... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.

Hi Sunny--
As I recall, Baez did ask George if he had been prepped by the State the previous night.  There was an objection and the judge read the law which permits the attorneys to go over testimony with a witness, prior to their taking the stand.  It's my understanding that under FL law, both the defense and the State must furnish the other party with a copy of their opening statement so that there are no surprises.

Hi BB!  Yes, I heard that too....but I have never heard of sharing their opening statements???  Are you sure of that?  I was looking at Jeff and his reactions didn't strike me as he was hearing something he had heard/read already. I am not doubting your word...but I am gonna ask my Orlando attorney friend if this is the case. It would explain how the A's were so nonreactive....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:14:14 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol


They are too old for that....what is Whorealdo saying?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 10:15:11 PM
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/17/298.jpg)

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 10:15:55 PM
Listening to the lies on Geraldo's show.

Talking about Caylee drowning.

We all know she did not drown.

Just read the autopsy report.

The duct tape (over nose and mouth) was put on Caylee BEFORE death.

No drowning.


Also, they're saying George tried to commit suicide.

He did not.

He talked committing suicide.

He didn't fail in suicide.

He was a desparate man and got help, finally.

George did not "try" suicide.  To say one tried and is still alive is to say they failed at suicide.

He didn't take pills, didn't shoot himself, didn't slit his wrists, etc.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:16:15 PM
My friend sent me this...

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/cheech0807/Anthony%20clan/Whydo.jpg)

this one always freaked me out.....and another one of a little girl in the swampy looking area.....gave me the creeps.  

It looked from the trees exactly where the body was found.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/lovenightscene-1.jpg)

that's the one...the first time I saw it, it brought immediate tears to my eyes(I am not one that tears up easily) and it made me sick to my stomach...it was then I knew in my soul, that KC killed Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:17:04 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:18:20 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would swallow razor blades before I'd watch him...........ugh!! :smt097 :smt093 :smt078


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:19:46 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 10:20:02 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.

Yes, that does sound like it could be what happened, makes sense.  I just can't help but feel that Casey and the defense stalled until they had all the evidence and concocted a story, adding in George's help with Caylee, to try to fit it.....with a lot of help from bloggers, I might add.  Maybe George was just saying I think it was an accident that snowballed as Casey loved Caylee.   But the DC incident does put doubt on that theory.

Yep, so far kudos for George and Cindy.  Hope they have seen the light and will do the right thing, which should be quite simple, it's just telling the truth.

I'm still getting a kick out of Casey's meltdown yesterday.   ::MonkeyDevil::

If as many of us think, Dom Casey, received use immunity for his investigative statement with the LE, I think he will fill in some black holes for us.  ::MonkeyDevil:: Tupelo, I have watched it at least 20 times....LOL...and have sent to to everyone I could think of....I really take great pleasure in seeing her anguish.....and seeing REAL tears...of course they were tears of anger, tears  for herself.....I was fixin to tell JB I would volunteer for the job of poking her in the eyes to get the fake tears on cue ::MonkeyDevil::

Yes, I believe Casey will have lots of information for the jury. I believe George and KC were talking when she talked to no one else. I think she told GA that it was an accident assuming he would believe her as always. He knew better in his heart. I think their greed kept up the BS story about searching for KC while GA knew all the time she was dead. He wanted money more than he wanted to protect KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 29, 2011, 10:21:39 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.

Hi Sunny--
As I recall, Baez did ask George if he had been prepped by the State the previous night.  There was an objection and the judge read the law which permits the attorneys to go over testimony with a witness, prior to their taking the stand.  It's my understanding that under FL law, both the defense and the State must furnish the other party with a copy of their opening statement so that there are no surprises.

Hi BB!  Yes, I heard that too....but I have never heard of sharing their opening statements???  Are you sure of that?  I was looking at Jeff and his reactions didn't strike me as he was hearing something he had heard/read already. I am not doubting your word...but I am gonna ask my Orlando attorney friend if this is the case. It would explain how the A's were so nonreactive....

Hi Sunny---No, I am not absolutely sure, but I heard it on TV somewhere.  It might be true or it might not.  Also, Linda had those questions ready for George in short order if she had just heard it.  If you find out for sure, please post it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 10:22:04 PM
Listening to the lies on Geraldo's show.

Talking about Caylee drowning.

We all know she did not drown.

Just read the autopsy report.

The duct tape (over nose and mouth) was put on Caylee BEFORE death.

No drowning.


Also, they're saying George tried to commit suicide.

He did not.

He talked committing suicide.

He didn't fail in suicide.

He was a desparate man and got help, finally.

George did not "try" suicide.  To say one tried and is still alive is to say they failed at suicide.

He didn't take pills, didn't shoot himself, didn't slit his wrists, etc.



Actually didn't the autopsy say that the tape went on before decomposition, not before death? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 10:23:00 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would swallow razor blades before I'd watch him...........ugh!! :smt097 :smt093 :smt078

There has to be a reason why he turned from being an attorney to become a sensationalist, IMHO its because he's an @$$hole. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:23:02 PM
Listening to the lies on Geraldo's show.

Talking about Caylee drowning.

We all know she did not drown.

Just read the autopsy report.

The duct tape (over nose and mouth) was put on Caylee BEFORE death.

No drowning.


Also, they're saying George tried to commit suicide.

He did not.

He talked committing suicide.

He didn't fail in suicide.

He was a desparate man and got help, finally.

George did not "try" suicide.  To say one tried and is still alive is to say they failed at suicide.

He didn't take pills, didn't shoot himself, didn't slit his wrists, etc.



Actually didn't the autopsy say that the tape went on before decomposition, not before death? 


Well...decomposition begins immediately after death....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:23:07 PM
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/17/298.jpg)

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/

she was really fixated on skulls....I wonder if this was about the time when skulls were in fashion with the younger set?? Skulls on every piece of clothing...freaky to me...but I am rather conservative in my thinking ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:23:20 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

me too!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:23:42 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would swallow razor blades before I'd watch him...........ugh!! :smt097 :smt093 :smt078

There has to be a reason why he turned from being an attorney to become a sensationalist, IMHO its because he's an @$$hole. 


I agree....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:24:26 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would swallow razor blades before I'd watch him...........ugh!! :smt097 :smt093 :smt078

There has to be a reason why he turned from being an attorney to become a sensationalist, IMHO its because he's an @$$hole. 
i FELT MY BLOOD PRESSURE AND ANGER RISING SO i CHANGED THE CHANNEL. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 10:25:31 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...

Geraldo never gets any of these he predicts right, so this gives me great hope. LOL  As for an appeal does he not realize that the judge will appoint a PD because after the trial bozo will not be paid by the court? They have PD on payroll and I the state of Florida will not be jerked around twice - taxpayers won't stand for it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 10:26:54 PM
Stacey Honowitz, Fl prosecutor is on also. She thinks like us but watching her mouth is very distracting...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:27:17 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...

whoraldo is an idiot.....if Jose were JOE or JONATHAN or GERMAINE whoraldo would not be giving this case one moment of airtime..... wish someone would ask the fool who's ass he kicked in Orlando?? ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 10:28:06 PM
(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/17/298.jpg)

http://s611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/

Well...this one is particularly disturbing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:28:32 PM
Stacey Honowitz, Fl prosecutor is on also. She thinks like us but watching her mouth is very distracting...


It is.... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 10:29:36 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0619/19801946.pdf

Page 14/36.  "Considering the dispersal of the skeletal remains, it would not be expected to find the mandible in this position unless something affixed the mandible in this position prior to decomposition and the hair matting forming.  In skeletal cases involving surface depositions, the mandible and cranium are normally found disarticulated because there is nothing to hold the mandible in place after the soft tissue decomposes...."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
Stacey Honowitz, Fl prosecutor is on also. She thinks like us but watching her mouth is very distracting...


It is.... ::MonkeyHaHa::
lol yes like the crrokedest street in san francisco.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:31:08 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:32:30 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...

whoraldo is an idiot.....if Jose were JOE or JONATHAN or GERMAINE whoraldo would not be giving this case one moment of airtime..... wish someone would ask the fool who's ass he kicked in Orlando?? ::MonkeyDevil::
I turned him off... he started  showing baez beating down george and calling the prosecution  names. he was ovious  that he is for jose acting mean and being just as nasty as jose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 10:33:52 PM
Well...decomposition begins immediately after death....

Yes, but usually on the inside.  I would think one would still have a brief period of time after death that one could put the duct tape on and still have it adhere.

The reason I bring this up is not to argue for the sake of argument, but limiting the duct tape to before death eliminates other possibilities - like Casey putting it on because perhaps an O phenomenon shocked her but before bodily fluids began escaping.

I'd hate to the time of placement of duct tape assumed as X when there are other possibilities, still pointing to Casey's guilt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:33:54 PM

Hi Sunny--
As I recall, Baez did ask George if he had been prepped by the State the previous night.  There was an objection and the judge read the law which permits the attorneys to go over testimony with a witness, prior to their taking the stand.  It's my understanding that under FL law, both the defense and the State must furnish the other party with a copy of their opening statement so that there are no surprises.

Hi BB!  Yes, I heard that too....but I have never heard of sharing their opening statements???  Are you sure of that?  I was looking at Jeff and his reactions didn't strike me as he was hearing something he had heard/read already. I am not doubting your word...but I am gonna ask my Orlando attorney friend if this is the case. It would explain how the A's were so nonreactive....

Hi Sunny---No, I am not absolutely sure, but I heard it on TV somewhere.  It might be true or it might not.  Also, Linda had those questions ready for George in short order if she had just heard it.  If you find out for sure, please post it. 

OK BB....I post many of his answers/statements ::MonkeyWink:: but I will make a special note to you about this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
before I flipped it I heard him say gerlado would win on appeal did I hear right is anyone else watching... I am sorry I can torture my brain with that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:34:38 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
before I flipped it I heard him say gerlado would win on appeal did I hear right is anyone else watching... I am sorry I can torture my brain with that.
he rattled me I mean he thinks jose will win on appeal... jose is no lawyer...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 29, 2011, 10:35:50 PM
In any case, we can't say that the autopsy report says it was before death.  They chose their words carefully to represent what they felt was the true window of time that the tape was put on, and that it was simply before decomp.

Again, I don't mean to be argumentative - just their words are very specific.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:36:22 PM
Stacey Honowitz, Fl prosecutor is on also. She thinks like us but watching her mouth is very distracting...


It is.... ::MonkeyHaHa::
so let me know if he continues to be  for baez! doesnt matter what geraldo says and thinks! he is one of many that think bozo is doing a lousy job.. so who cares who he is...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 10:37:46 PM
Maybe KC got it mixed up with whose penis was whose.................lol

((EDIT- although I know it's one of Casey's photos I think we should leave it out of Caylee's thread - I'll edit the photo))

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3466/5774522192_90bc7ec001.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:38:19 PM
Listening to the lies on Geraldo's show.

Talking about Caylee drowning.

We all know she did not drown.

Just read the autopsy report.

The duct tape (over nose and mouth) was put on Caylee BEFORE death.

No drowning.


Also, they're saying George tried to commit suicide.

He did not.

He talked committing suicide.

He didn't fail in suicide.

He was a desparate man and got help, finally.

George did not "try" suicide.  To say one tried and is still alive is to say they failed at suicide.

He didn't take pills, didn't shoot himself, didn't slit his wrists, etc.



Actually didn't the autopsy say that the tape went on before decomposition, not before death? 

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 10:40:47 PM
Geraldo's show - a judge on there (sorry, I don't know the name) says:

No mother that has been sexually abused will leave her daughter with that abuser.

and

No jury is going to buy the story that a child drowned or any other accident occurred and the mother would just go on with life as though nothing happend. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:42:07 PM
Listening to the lies on Geraldo's show.

Talking about Caylee drowning.

We all know she did not drown.

Just read the autopsy report.

The duct tape (over nose and mouth) was put on Caylee BEFORE death.

No drowning.


Also, they're saying George tried to commit suicide.

He did not.

He talked committing suicide.

He didn't fail in suicide.

He was a desparate man and got help, finally.

George did not "try" suicide.  To say one tried and is still alive is to say they failed at suicide.

He didn't take pills, didn't shoot himself, didn't slit his wrists, etc.



Actually didn't the autopsy say that the tape went on before decomposition, not before death? 


Well...decomposition begins immediately after death....

That is correct, however there are factors that will determine the rapidity....
rather than try to explain what I think I know ::MonkeyDevil:: .....go here


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:42:29 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...

Geraldo never gets any of these he predicts right, so this gives me great hope. LOL  As for an appeal does he not realize that the judge will appoint a PD because after the trial bozo will not be paid by the court? They have PD on payroll and I the state of Florida will not be jerked around twice - taxpayers won't stand for it.
of course she wont have baez if its appealed and she will loose. your right turbo:)  geraldo is and has been a joke and a has been. I guess he think that his measly one day a week sunday special is enough influence on the jury prior to jury selection. His nasty comments about the prosecution is real unprofessional and ghetto mentality.. makes him look ghetto.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 10:42:47 PM
In any case, we can't say that the autopsy report says it was before death.  They chose their words carefully to represent what they felt was the true window of time that the tape was put on, and that it was simply before decomp.

Again, I don't mean to be argumentative - just their words are very specific.
I agree with you. We will see what Dr G has to say. She may be more specific.
Judge Alex agrees with Stacy and Joey Jackson. They all say that the jury will not buy the theory about leaving your child with an abuser if you were abused. They agreee with US.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would swallow razor blades before I'd watch him...........ugh!! :smt097 :smt093 :smt078

There has to be a reason why he turned from being an attorney to become a sensationalist, IMHO its because he's an @$$hole. 
i FELT MY BLOOD PRESSURE AND ANGER RISING SO i CHANGED THE CHANNEL. ::MonkeyMad::

loca, turn your caps off and drink this ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:43:52 PM
Geraldo's show - a judge on there (sorry, I don't know the name) says:

No mother that has been sexually abused will leave her daughter with that abuser.

and

No jury is going to buy the story that a child drowned or any other accident occurred and the mother would just go on with life as though nothing happend. 
was that judge alex?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:44:28 PM
Geraldo's show - a judge on there (sorry, I don't know the name) says:

No mother that has been sexually abused will leave her daughter with that abuser.

and

No jury is going to buy the story that a child drowned or any other accident occurred and the mother would just go on with life as though nothing happend. 
was that judge alex?
or joey jackson...? I changed channel !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:47:02 PM
Well...decomposition begins immediately after death....

Yes, but usually on the inside.  I would think one would still have a brief period of time after death that one could put the duct tape on and still have it adhere.

The reason I bring this up is not to argue for the sake of argument, but limiting the duct tape to before death eliminates other possibilities - like Casey putting it on because perhaps an O phenomenon shocked her but before bodily fluids began escaping.

I'd hate to the time of placement of duct tape assumed as X when there are other possibilities, still pointing to Casey's guilt.


I was not disagreeing with you, just meaning basically what you are saying... that it begins at death, not that it limits it to before death, there are many factors that influence how rapidly decomp occurs, as I sadly had the life experience to find out...not arguing with you at all...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 10:47:07 PM
Turbo,is that KC holding the FU sign?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:47:15 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...

Geraldo never gets any of these he predicts right, so this gives me great hope. LOL  As for an appeal does he not realize that the judge will appoint a PD because after the trial bozo will not be paid by the court? They have PD on payroll and I the state of Florida will not be jerked around twice - taxpayers won't stand for it.

Turbo, just more proof that Geraldo is an idiot!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 10:48:56 PM
Listening to the lies on Geraldo's show.

Talking about Caylee drowning.

We all know she did not drown.

Just read the autopsy report.

The duct tape (over nose and mouth) was put on Caylee BEFORE death.

No drowning.


Also, they're saying George tried to commit suicide.

He did not.

He talked committing suicide.

He didn't fail in suicide.

He was a desparate man and got help, finally.

George did not "try" suicide.  To say one tried and is still alive is to say they failed at suicide.

He didn't take pills, didn't shoot himself, didn't slit his wrists, etc.



Actually didn't the autopsy say that the tape went on before decomposition, not before death? 


Well...decomposition begins immediately after death....

That is correct, however there are factors that will determine the rapidity....
rather than try to explain what I think I know ::MonkeyDevil:: .....go here


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition


Sunny... I agree with you.... I learned too much about the process with the whole Kaitlin thing.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 10:51:39 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
What?  Do you feel she will be found guilty of lesser charges, not murder? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:52:10 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would swallow razor blades before I'd watch him...........ugh!! :smt097 :smt093 :smt078

There has to be a reason why he turned from being an attorney to become a sensationalist, IMHO its because he's an @$$hole. 
i FELT MY BLOOD PRESSURE AND ANGER RISING SO i CHANGED THE CHANNEL. ::MonkeyMad::

loca, turn your caps off and drink this ::monkeywine2::
lol caps off   ::monkeywine2:: cheers


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 10:53:40 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
What?  Do you feel she will be found guilty of lesser charges, not murder? 
that would make her about 85 yrs old? or so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 10:53:59 PM
KC's my space became prophetic in a way..........

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/3615.png)

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/3641.png)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/3532.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:54:51 PM
Geraldo's show - a judge on there (sorry, I don't know the name) says:

No mother that has been sexually abused will leave her daughter with that abuser.

and

No jury is going to buy the story that a child drowned or any other accident occurred and the mother would just go on with life as though nothing happend. 

thanks Puzzler....well that's the last time he will be on geraldo's show.....he disagreed !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 10:55:53 PM
Well...decomposition begins immediately after death....

Yes, but usually on the inside.  I would think one would still have a brief period of time after death that one could put the duct tape on and still have it adhere.

The reason I bring this up is not to argue for the sake of argument, but limiting the duct tape to before death eliminates other possibilities - like Casey putting it on because perhaps an O phenomenon shocked her but before bodily fluids began escaping.

I'd hate to the time of placement of duct tape assumed as X when there are other possibilities, still pointing to Casey's guilt.


I was not disagreeing with you, just meaning basically what you are saying... that it begins at death, not that it limits it to before death, there are many factors that influence how rapidly decomp occurs, as I sadly had the life experience to find out...not arguing with you at all...


How a Human Body Decomposes after Death

When doctors note a time of death, it is the moment that the heart beat stops. At this time a person loses awareness and their muscles relax completely. Certain parts of the body, such as brain cells, remain alive for a further three to seven minutes. Shortly after death, the contents of the stomach may be regurgitated and urine and semen emitted.

The First 24 Hours after Death
In The Good Death Guide, Michael Dunn describes the changes in a body in the first day after death. The first significant sign is a sharp drop in body temperature. This is referred to as algor mortis. Other changes include the following:

The skin turns a greyish-white colour.
The eyes become dull and film over and the pupils dilate.
Skin loses elasticity.
Blood sinks by gravity, turning areas where it settles blue and purple.
Lactic acid is produced in muscles causing the stiffness of rigor mortis. This starts developing one to four hours after death and is complete after 24 hours. The effects can last 36-48 hours.
Changes in a Corpse from Two Days to a Week after Death
Michael Dunn states that putrefaction of body tissue begins after about two days. Refrigeration can delay this and very hot dry air will dry out the body and mummify it. Embalming will preserve a body for a limited length of time. If a body is left untreated at room temperature, it will go through the following stages:



Read more at Suite101: How a Human Body Decomposes after Death | Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/content/how-a-human-body-decomposes-after-death-a224044#ixzz1NnhAbvez


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 10:56:23 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
What?  Do you feel she will be found guilty of lesser charges, not murder? 
that would make her about 85 yrs old? or so.
I know, but it also would mean she would be found guilty of a lesser charge.  Just wondered if Sunny thought that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 10:57:07 PM
Turbo,is that KC holding the FU sign?

It is.............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 10:58:15 PM
I betcha Bozo cannot believe his good fortune that he is friends with Geraldo. They go sailing together, he can go on his show and be on tee vee..His ticket to the big time...putz


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 10:58:35 PM
Listening to the lies on Geraldo's show.

Talking about Caylee drowning.

We all know she did not drown.

Just read the autopsy report.

The duct tape (over nose and mouth) was put on Caylee BEFORE death.

No drowning.


Also, they're saying George tried to commit suicide.

He did not.

He talked committing suicide.

He didn't fail in suicide.

He was a desparate man and got help, finally.

George did not "try" suicide.  To say one tried and is still alive is to say they failed at suicide.

He didn't take pills, didn't shoot himself, didn't slit his wrists, etc.



Actually didn't the autopsy say that the tape went on before decomposition, not before death? 


Well...decomposition begins immediately after death....

That is correct, however there are factors that will determine the rapidity....
rather than try to explain what I think I know ::MonkeyDevil:: .....go here


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition


Sunny... I agree with you.... I learned too much about the process with the whole Kaitlin thing.... ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know ::MonkeyTears::  at least we were spared that part.   Cndy couldn't stand having Caylee's picture on the monitor....how is she going to stand seeing her bones??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 29, 2011, 10:58:55 PM
I betcha Bozo cannot believe his good fortune that he is friends with Geraldo. They go sailing together, he can go on his show and be on tee vee..His ticket to the big time...putz
For now......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 29, 2011, 10:59:02 PM
I just cannot tolerate know-it-alls. Geraldo Rivera is a prime example.  He is really nothing more than the rear-end of a donkey.  Of course, if Casey Anthony is convicted of First Degree Murder, he will say he anticipated it, even though he clearly did not since he has repeatedly said that the case was over charged.  Funny thing about TV and the internet.  Once you say it or post it, you own it and there's no denying it or pretending that you didn't. If you are speaking to someone, they can always say that's not what the said.  But with TV and the internet, it's there forever.

Eagerly awaiting Tuesday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 10:59:22 PM
Why would someone dry off a body (from drowning) and then put tape over mouth and nose?  The hair would have to be dry, too, for the tape to have remained stuck to it 6 months after being in a swamp.

Can't be for leakage - too many other orifices left without tape. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 11:00:54 PM
Geraldo's show - a judge on there (sorry, I don't know the name) says:

No mother that has been sexually abused will leave her daughter with that abuser.

and

No jury is going to buy the story that a child drowned or any other accident occurred and the mother would just go on with life as though nothing happend. 

thanks Puzzler....well that's the last time he will be on geraldo's show.....he disagreed !
So did Stacy Honowitz and Joey Jackson.. and mafia Joey Taco did too last night on Jeanine Pirro's show.. who'd have guessed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 11:01:14 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
What?  Do you feel she will be found guilty of lesser charges, not murder? 

I think there is a possibility....albeit a slim one, however I am ensuring I am mentally prepared for it,  just in case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 29, 2011, 11:02:33 PM
I have one more thing before I hit the hay.  When Cindy was shown that charming picture of Caylee pretending to read her book, one of the last photos ever taken of her, Cindy broke into a mile-wide smile.  It's true that she was crying, and I am certainly no fan of Cindy Anthony, but you could see that Caylee was the love of her life. Very quietly she said, "That's my Caylee."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 29, 2011, 11:03:14 PM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.

Well, it appears I pegged that one...seems to me that will be what Lippman's motion is in regard to

Hello Monks---

So, let me see if I have this right.  A young mother is being tried in a capital murder case accused of killing her toddler.  Her attorney presents a defense as we are all entitled to have our attorneys do under similar circumstances.  The defendant is not required to disprove the states charges. (Yes, I know, a ridiculous defense, but their defense nonetheless.)  Then an attorney for two witnesses, grandparents of the victim, files to force the defense to prove their case to him, the attorney for the two witnesses, and/or abandon it.  The defense attorney cannot be sued for slander as what is said in court is protected.   By doing this, the defense would be forced to admit the theory is a lie.  Do you two really think a third party could interject himself in a murder case in this way and demolish the defense theory and de facto admit guilt? You don't think this would be a violation of Casey Anthony's Constitution rights? 


It's just my opinion, but I think there are some "Worries" here.

Keeping this in mind, while all defendants are entitled to a defense & having their constitutional rights not be violated, it is also improper for an attorney to put forward lies of the defendant knowing the defendant is lying & will lie under oath in his/her own defense.   If Casey takes the stand, Tony L (right now offered as proffer) & I anticipate Jesse's testimony will impeach her.

When Casey jail visited with her parents she said that they were both great grandparents, she told her father personally that he was the best father she had ever met & meant it from her heart -- this too would go directly against her allegations.

Casey's jail letters talk about what she "thinks" her brother did and "maybe" her father too.  Notice there is no direct accusation regarding her father but a fabricated one - one I believe that she & her defense put forward together disingenuously.  In other words, they all know its a lie & Ill go further to say Casey wrote that with the intent to have it be part of her defense with her attorneys blessing.

Now, while I am not sure what will happen if the motion is regarding this BUT I will say this, I think its perfectly understandable that it is the Anthonys right to have their attorney try to stop this insanity at least to the point until Casey gets on the stand on her own behalf or unless a witness gets on the stand and states that they witnessed her father sexually molest her (that wont happen).  With regard to this particular point if I were the Anthonys' attorney I would push legal action outside this trial whether typically it fails or not, it might just set a precedent if they overcome what has transpired in the past because this particular opening statement is the most egregious thing I have ever heard  or read in a criminal case  lodged against another party other than the defendant on trial & who has not been noticed with a complaint, criminally charged or convicted of a crime.   Regardless of how we feel about the Anthonys, they are victims in this case & they are not on trial.

It failed for the Menendez Brothers and it will fail here, JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 11:03:18 PM


I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
What?  Do you feel she will be found guilty of lesser charges, not murder? 
that would make her about 85 yrs old? or so.

I don't think she would live that long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 29, 2011, 11:03:46 PM
Why would someone dry off a body (from drowning) and then put tape over mouth and nose?  The hair would have to be dry, too, for the tape to have remained stuck to it 6 months after being in a swamp.

Can't be for leakage - too many other orifices left without tape.  

There was no drowning............It can't be proven with no more remains than they found, but I think she broke her neck and put the tape on to keep her head from falling off. Maybe it fell over and some of the skin starting giving away which make it look to her like the head was going to fall off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 11:04:01 PM
KC's my space became prophetic in a way..........

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/3615.png)

(http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt194/CaseyAnthonyIcons/3641.png)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/3532.jpg)



 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 29, 2011, 11:04:27 PM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...


If Casey gets LWOP I am more than happy with that.....

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
What?  Do you feel she will be found guilty of lesser charges, not murder? 

I think there is a possibility....albeit a slim one, however I am ensuring I am mentally prepared for it,  just in case.

I agree with that, Sunny.  There is a possibility.  But if she is found guilty of a lesser charge, it won't be because of her world-known attorney.  Jackass.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 11:04:31 PM
I have one more thing before I hit the hay.  When Cindy was shown that charming picture of Caylee pretending to read her book, one of the last photos ever taken of her, Cindy broke into a mile-wide smile.  It's true that she was crying, and I am certainly no fan of Cindy Anthony, but you could see that Caylee was the love of her life. Very quietly she said, "That's my Caylee."


I found that to be very telling as well...I am sure it was not lost on the jury


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 11:08:11 PM

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
What?  Do you feel she will be found guilty of lesser charges, not murder? 
that would make her about 85 yrs old? or so.
I know, but it also would mean she would be found guilty of a lesser charge.  Just wondered if Sunny thought that.

Mark NeJame said:
Most have formed an opinion regarding Casey Anthony's guilt because of the massive amount of media coverage that has surrounded her and the death of Caylee. Remember though that the jurors are not going to hear everything that you have which helped establish your opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 29, 2011, 11:10:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOxOMRHXls&feature=youtu.be
The computer store owner dude, saw Casey and Caylee together the day after Father's day at Walmart. So apparently the state has a witness that can cast doubt on any story that Caylee drowned, at least on that morning.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1198&start=700
Casey refused to give her DNA, Sherriff's office had to get a warrant to go get it from her. (pg. 49)
posted by Julia
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:43 pm


I tried to add the link but after trying to preview here! the link didnt work ! however it is working at the hinky link above.

very interesting information.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 11:12:59 PM
I personally would be very surprised if she gets the DP..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 11:13:31 PM
I just cannot tolerate know-it-alls. Geraldo Rivera is a prime example.  He is really nothing more than the rear-end of a donkey.  Of course, if Casey Anthony is convicted of First Degree Murder, he will say he anticipated it, even though he clearly did not since he has repeatedly said that the case was over charged.  Funny thing about TV and the internet.  Once you say it or post it, you own it and there's no denying it or pretending that you didn't. If you are speaking to someone, they can always say that's not what the said.  But with TV and the internet, it's there forever.

Eagerly awaiting Tuesday.

BB, early on, I 'friend' Jose on Facebook...I have sent him  messages....I wasn't nasty....he replied to several...in one I said, sure he couldn't expect to WIN this case and get her off.... he replied back to me he was only trying to save his clients life...if he did that he would have WON.......he didn't say she was innocent, although he has said that in the media....he simply emphasized, he was trying to save her life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
Geraldo's show - a judge on there (sorry, I don't know the name) says:

No mother that has been sexually abused will leave her daughter with that abuser.

and

No jury is going to buy the story that a child drowned or any other accident occurred and the mother would just go on with life as though nothing happend. 

thanks Puzzler....well that's the last time he will be on geraldo's show.....he disagreed !
So did Stacy Honowitz and Joey Jackson.. and mafia Joey Taco did too last night on Jeanine Pirro's show.. who'd have guessed

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 11:15:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOxOMRHXls&feature=youtu.be
The computer store owner dude, saw Casey and Caylee together the day after Father's day at Walmart. So apparently the state has a witness that can cast doubt on any story that Caylee drowned, at least on that morning.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1198&start=700
Casey refused to give her DNA, Sherriff's office had to get a warrant to go get it from her. (pg. 49)
posted by Julia
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:43 pm


I tried to add the link but after trying to preview here! the link didnt work ! however it is working at the hinky link above.

very interesting information.

That never came out b4....Wonder how much other stuff will come out that didn't hit the news...
Wonder what time it was, will have to wait......pout.

Another dig deeper.  ::MonkeyShovel::  The whole is getting bigger and bigger.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 11:15:56 PM
Why would someone dry off a body (from drowning) and then put tape over mouth and nose?  The hair would have to be dry, too, for the tape to have remained stuck to it 6 months after being in a swamp.

Can't be for leakage - too many other orifices left without tape.  

There was no drowning............It can't be proven with no more remains than they found, but I think she broke her neck and put the tape on to keep her head from falling off. Maybe it fell over and some of the skin starting giving away which make it look to her like the head was going to fall off.

Interesting. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 11:16:00 PM
I think she overdosed her, and then wrapped her up with the tape and heart sticker as a goodbye and sayonara. I believe the duct tape either went on while she was unconscious or very soon after Caylee died. The witch couldnt stand to see Caylee with her mouth open.. sorry... It is true the body temp drops fairly quickly. I have wrapped more dead bodies than I care to remember. Very accurate link Puzzler. I wonder if they found anything in the pool filter, I doubt it. She then stashed her in the playhouse for a short period of time until she backed into the garage to wrap her up and move her to the car and drove around with her until the smell was too much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 11:17:20 PM
Why would someone dry off a body (from drowning) and then put tape over mouth and nose?  The hair would have to be dry, too, for the tape to have remained stuck to it 6 months after being in a swamp.

Can't be for leakage - too many other orifices left without tape.  

There was no drowning............It can't be proven with no more remains than they found, but I think she broke her neck and put the tape on to keep her head from falling off. Maybe it fell over and some of the skin starting giving away which make it look to her like the head was going to fall off.

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 11:18:26 PM
I think she overdosed her, and then wrapped her up with the tape and heart sticker as a goodbye and sayonara. I believe the duct tape either went on while she was unconscious or very soon after Caylee died. The witch couldnt stand to see Caylee with her mouth open.. sorry... It is true the body temp drops fairly quickly. I have wrapped more dead bodies than I care to remember. Very accurate link Puzzler. I wonder if they found anything in the pool filter, I doubt it. She then stashed her in the playhouse for a short period of time until she backed into the garage to wrap her up and move her to the car and drove around with her until the smell was too much.


This is pretty much what I believe to have happened... Once in awhile I toy with another theory, but always go back to this one...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 11:20:17 PM
What I want to know is who tossed the pavers in the woods..is that what she used the shovel for? Did she rinse it in the pool before she gave it back?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 29, 2011, 11:20:55 PM
night monks....it has been a pleasure here tonight.....smart monks, good conversation and no drama!  See ya Tuesday morning! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 29, 2011, 11:21:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOxOMRHXls&feature=youtu.be
The computer store owner dude, saw Casey and Caylee together the day after Father's day at Walmart. So apparently the state has a witness that can cast doubt on any story that Caylee drowned, at least on that morning.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1198&start=700
Casey refused to give her DNA, Sherriff's office had to get a warrant to go get it from her. (pg. 49)
posted by Julia
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:43 pm


I tried to add the link but after trying to preview here! the link didnt work ! however it is working at the hinky link above.

very interesting information.

IIRC, the depo of the computer store guy was very interesting because he talked about how KC was too busy with her phone to realize that Caylee was struggling to open the heavy door on her own.  I remember thinking that it is a wonder Caylee wasn't ran over in a parking lot somewhere if KC didn't bother to at least hold her by the hand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 11:24:09 PM
What I want to know is who tossed the pavers in the woods..is that what she used the shovel for? Did she rinse it in the pool before she gave it back?

I'm wondering if she rinsed the shovel off in the yard and that's why cadeaver dogs hit in the yard?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 11:24:32 PM
I dont think KC was a good mother. I think she is a pretender..a bullchit artist
When people are looking she knew how to act and God only knows what she did to her when people werent looking, like knock her out to party


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 11:25:05 PM
Goodnight Sunny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 11:25:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOxOMRHXls&feature=youtu.be
The computer store owner dude, saw Casey and Caylee together the day after Father's day at Walmart. So apparently the state has a witness that can cast doubt on any story that Caylee drowned, at least on that morning.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1198&start=700
Casey refused to give her DNA, Sherriff's office had to get a warrant to go get it from her. (pg. 49)
posted by Julia
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:43 pm


I tried to add the link but after trying to preview here! the link didnt work ! however it is working at the hinky link above.

very interesting information.

IIRC, the depo of the computer store guy was very interesting because he talked about how KC was too busy with her phone to realize that Caylee was struggling to open the heavy door on her own.  I remember thinking that it is a wonder Caylee wasn't ran over in a parking lot somewhere if KC didn't bother to at least hold her by the hand.

I remember that...the guy said KC left Caylee to struggle to get inside.  I think KC would do cruel things like that to Caylee, just like she did a cruel thing to her mother by taking Teddy, immediately after mom told her on the phone that Cindy was sleeping with Teddy for comfort.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 11:25:58 PM
I dont think KC was a good mother. I think she is a pretender..a bullchit artist
When people are looking she knew how to act and God only knows what she did to her when people werent looking, like knock her out to party

Agreed again... I also think that all the 20 something year old friends were easy to impress that she was a good mother...they have no clue what a good mother is....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 11:26:28 PM
What I want to know is who tossed the pavers in the woods..is that what she used the shovel for? Did she rinse it in the pool before she gave it back?

I'm wondering if she rinsed the shovel off in the yard and that's why cadeaver dogs hit in the yard?
Good point! I always wondered what she used it for, I think it was to lift the pavers that were....stained  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 11:26:59 PM
Transcript of Chris Stutz interview with LE:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608christopherstutz/index.htm (http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608christopherstutz/index.htm)

TY KLAAS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 11:27:29 PM
What I want to know is who tossed the pavers in the woods..is that what she used the shovel for? Did she rinse it in the pool before she gave it back?

Maybe the pavers were used to weight down the bag.  Remember that area was all swampy due to the rains.  Could have used the pavers to weight down the laundry bag which had Caylee in it in a plastic bag.  When the water receded and animals got to her, her body/bones were scattered.  So possibly the shovel was only used to "pry up" the paver so she could pick it up. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 11:27:36 PM
What I want to know is who tossed the pavers in the woods..is that what she used the shovel for? Did she rinse it in the pool before she gave it back?

I'm wondering if she rinsed the shovel off in the yard and that's why cadeaver dogs hit in the yard?
Good point! I always wondered what she used it for, I think it was to lift the pavers that were....stained  ::MonkeyEek::


That and to scooch poor little Caylee's lifeless body into the garbage bag...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 11:28:10 PM
Here is casey's phone log.. Page 3 starts 6-16.
Page one tells you which column who calls who...
 ::MonkeyShovel::


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Magnolia on May 29, 2011, 11:28:45 PM
The autopsy report says that the tape was placed antemortem.

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antemortem [an″te-mor´tem]
performed or occurring before death.
Miller-Keane Encyclopedia and Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing, and Allied Health, Seventh Edition. © 2003 by Saunders, an imprint of Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 11:29:05 PM
Christopher Stutz Interview (audio)
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAxU4OKKkL0&feature=related
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36WrGyBjIt8&feature=related
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsqlAId8WG4&feature=related

TY TRIMM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 11:29:59 PM
Christopher Stutz Interview (audio)
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAxU4OKKkL0&feature=related
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36WrGyBjIt8&feature=related
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsqlAId8WG4&feature=related

TY TRIMM!

Thanks Trimm!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 29, 2011, 11:30:59 PM
What I want to know is who tossed the pavers in the woods..is that what she used the shovel for? Did she rinse it in the pool before she gave it back?

Maybe the pavers were used to weight down the bag.  Remember that area was all swampy due to the rains.  Could have used the pavers to weight down the laundry bag which had Caylee in it in a plastic bag.  When the water receded and animals got to her, her body/bones were scattered.  So possibly the shovel was only used to "pry up" the paver so she could pick it up. 
Thats what I wanted to say  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Time to turn in. Thanks to everyone for their insight, great discussion tonight. You guys are the best! See ya tomorrow!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 11:32:37 PM
The autopsy report says that the tape was placed antemortem.

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antemortem [an″te-mor´tem]
performed or occurring before death.
Miller-Keane Encyclopedia and Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing, and Allied Health, Seventh Edition. © 2003 by Saunders, an imprint of Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved.


Tks...either the trunk or casey threw Caylee in the pool with tape on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 11:35:28 PM
I am still at page 95, but wanted to comment about supposed discrepancies George may or may not have said in all of his testimony for 3 years on this matter.

Since the beginning, I have hated George and Cindy with as much venom as I have their spawn daughter.  But, to try and remember such minute details from interview to interview and what they said last time, I have never been a party to placing doubt on what they have said.  Trying to remember if he said he did or did not want to know who the father was from one interview to the next would be impossible for me.  I am sure, he is a father, he wanted to know who the father was.  Was or was there not duct tape on a gas can?  What sequence calls were made to police, what times they remembers things happening, and also all of her lies and when they were told to them, on which days, after which events, my mind would explode.  Add to that, they were trying to be evasive to help their spawn. 

None of this goes to the level of any impeachment for me anyway, nor does it prove that he found his darling granddaughter dead in a swimming pool and then bullied KC to hide her body.  IMO, it is ridiculous to give exactly the same statements each and every time they were interviewed.  They were distraught and missing their granddaughter, trying to find her, and I would have a hard time remembering such minute details and would be more interested in tracking down leads to where my granddaughter was, if I believe she was alive, as they did back then. 

Another thing that has been bothering me.  According to Bozo, he hid or told KC they should hide Caylee.  Why?  How would that benefit George?  I do not believe for even 1 nanosecond that George would allow his precious granddaughter to lie in a swamp while she was decomposing so that whatever benefit the defense claims he would get would happen.  Even while I hated them as vigorously as I did, I believed they loved Caylee with all their heart. 

Anyway, I would have many more discrepancies if this were me and having to give numerous interviews over and over and over and remember what I said last time.  I will say this, at least they gave interviews, and did not lawyer up and shut their mouths, like their spawn did. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 29, 2011, 11:35:31 PM
The autopsy report says that the tape was placed antemortem.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
antemortem [an″te-mor´tem]
performed or occurring before death.
Miller-Keane Encyclopedia and Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing, and Allied Health, Seventh Edition. © 2003 by Saunders, an imprint of Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved.


Magnolia - TY



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2011, 11:39:00 PM
http://www.timesleader.com/news/Neighbor-testifies-Casey-Anthony-borrowed-shovel-.html

Neighbor testifies Casey Anthony borrowed shovel

KYLE HIGHTOWER, Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A neighbor has testified that the Florida mother accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter borrowed a shovel two days after the little girl was last seen alive.

Neighbor Brian Burner testified Wednesday that 25-year-old Casey Anthony asked to borrow a shovel to dig up a bamboo root on June 18, 2008.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter Caylee.

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16.

Prosecutors say Caylee died from three pieces of masking tape being placed over her nose and mouth. Her body was found in a wooded area near the Anthony home.

The defense team says Caylee drowned in the family's pool.




Maybe.....

June 16 - Casey kills Caylee either at the Anthony home after George goes to work or before returning after George goes to work.  Caylee is temporarily put in the playhouse.  Casey wraps up Caylee and places her in the trunk of her car.

June 18 - Casey gets the shovel and uses it to get a couple of the pavers.  She puts the pavers in the trunk with Caylee's body.  She leaves the Anthony home and drives around the corner where she weights down Caylee's body and throws her in the flooded area of the woods.


Some fluids leak in the playhouse.  Fluids leak in her car.  She uses baking soda and stuff trying to clean it but finally the smell overwhelms her and she abandoned her car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 11:41:51 PM

I would be OK with 2, 30 year sentences that ran consecutively......and I am so glad she will be in general population.....with all those women who miss their child, who might have even killed an a man who was abusive to her child....oh yeah!  Put her in with that lady!  ::MonkeyJustice::
What?  Do you feel she will be found guilty of lesser charges, not murder? 
that would make her about 85 yrs old? or so.
I know, but it also would mean she would be found guilty of a lesser charge.  Just wondered if Sunny thought that.

Mark NeJame said:
Most have formed an opinion regarding Casey Anthony's guilt because of the massive amount of media coverage that has surrounded her and the death of Caylee. Remember though that the jurors are not going to hear everything that you have which helped establish your opinion.

Hi Sunny
That worries me a bit too . The past few days now this case comes up alot and the people who don't follow this case so deeply are actually buying into what is on TV and the defense's "lies & excuses" and others are just fed up with the whole case and don't even want to hear about it anymore


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 29, 2011, 11:42:09 PM
What I want to know is who tossed the pavers in the woods..is that what she used the shovel for? Did she rinse it in the pool before she gave it back?

Maybe the pavers were used to weight down the bag.  Remember that area was all swampy due to the rains.  Could have used the pavers to weight down the laundry bag which had Caylee in it in a plastic bag.  When the water receded and animals got to her, her body/bones were scattered.  So possibly the shovel was only used to "pry up" the paver so she could pick it up. 
Thats what I wanted to say  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Time to turn in. Thanks to everyone for their insight, great discussion tonight. You guys are the best! See ya tomorrow!

Wonder if they can match the pavers to the A's pavers in the back yard.
Anyone know if that's possible?
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 11:44:55 PM
Stutz, Chris – Casey’s former boyfriend. Met Casey while playing football with her friends. Began dating March or April 2007 and throughout the summer. At this time, Casey said she worked at Sports Authority. Long-distance relationship did not work out. Saw Casey a few times in May and June. On June 17 she came to his house driving dark colored Jeep Cherokee. Distressed because her parents were getting divorced (George cheating on Cindy).

Talked about her and Caylee getting house. On July 15 around 9:30 a.m., he saw a girl who looked like Casey jogging down Chickasaw. He texted Casey and asked her if she was running down Chickasaw, but she said ‘no’ and that was the end of that. July 16, he got text message about Caylee being missing for 32 days. Casey called Chris later that night around 11:30 p.m. from jail, but he hung up without taking the call. He called his parents back and asked what he should do; they said not to take the call. Casey called back a few minutes later but he did not talk to her and has not talked to her or seen her since she was arrested. Several of Casey’s friends met with George and Cindy at their house, giving them any information they could … around July 19 or 26 or so. ”Brought a bag with Caylee's scuba-style swim suit (it has a life-vest sewn in), some swimmers, hair things, etc.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf

TY Klaas..tht is the info I was looking for...I don't think they have the date right..it was he thought between June 17-19 because his Mom was on the treadmill..

But I think that bag of stuff she kept stowed in her trunk for Caylee while she was staying over at Tony's.  Remember Caylee had been ther to swim at Tony's in early to mid June..and Tony said she didn't leave any of Caylee's things at the apartment.

But how bizarre to go to a guys house you aren't even dating anymore to strike up a convo and leave a bag of your child's things, knowing your child is dead?  Why didn't she just throw them in a dumpster out of town..I just don't get this woman at all?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 29, 2011, 11:45:26 PM
http://www.timesleader.com/news/Neighbor-testifies-Casey-Anthony-borrowed-shovel-.html

Neighbor testifies Casey Anthony borrowed shovel

KYLE HIGHTOWER, Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A neighbor has testified that the Florida mother accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter borrowed a shovel two days after the little girl was last seen alive.

Neighbor Brian Burner testified Wednesday that 25-year-old Casey Anthony asked to borrow a shovel to dig up a bamboo root on June 18, 2008.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter Caylee.

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16.

Prosecutors say Caylee died from three pieces of masking tape being placed over her nose and mouth. Her body was found in a wooded area near the Anthony home.

The defense team says Caylee drowned in the family's pool.




Maybe.....

June 16 - Casey kills Caylee either at the Anthony home after George goes to work or before returning after George goes to work.  Caylee is temporarily put in the playhouse.  Casey wraps up Caylee and places her in the trunk of her car.

June 18 - Casey gets the shovel and uses it to get a couple of the pavers.  She puts the pavers in the trunk with Caylee's body.  She leaves the Anthony home and drives around the corner where she weights down Caylee's body and throws her in the flooded area of the woods.


Some fluids leak in the playhouse.  Fluids leak in her car.  She uses baking soda and stuff trying to clean it but finally the smell overwhelms her and she abandoned her car.



This scenario works as well....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 29, 2011, 11:48:27 PM
When I went to bed before, I had Iassen (spelling) on the witness stand in my mind laughing at Jar, and jar's first question, did you know the child, lol, and I could not stop laughing.  He is such a fool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 29, 2011, 11:50:08 PM
At the end of the day yesterday when the judge lets the jury go @29:00, watch ICA as they leave, especially @ 29:10.  She is looking closely at one of them, looks down, her eyes flit back and forth then @ 29:21 you can see on her face she has a AHA moment and speaks to Bobo, stares again towards the jury as she is skewing her mouth then raises one eyebrow.  I wish I knew what she was seeing that has caused her  at two different occasions during the day commented to Bobo.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28059097/index.html 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 11:50:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOxOMRHXls&feature=youtu.be
The computer store owner dude, saw Casey and Caylee together the day after Father's day at Walmart. So apparently the state has a witness that can cast doubt on any story that Caylee drowned, at least on that morning.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1198&start=700
Casey refused to give her DNA, Sherriff's office had to get a warrant to go get it from her. (pg. 49)
posted by Julia
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:43 pm


I tried to add the link but after trying to preview here! the link didnt work ! however it is working at the hinky link above.

very interesting information.

IIRC, the depo of the computer store guy was very interesting because he talked about how KC was too busy with her phone to realize that Caylee was struggling to open the heavy door on her own.  I remember thinking that it is a wonder Caylee wasn't ran over in a parking lot somewhere if KC didn't bother to at least hold her by the hand.

What "IF" Casey did hit Caylee with her car ?? There are so many reports in the news all over parents somehow forgetting their children in the car and they have died ?? Does anyone think this may even be remotely plausible ?? I know crazy thinking...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 29, 2011, 11:54:07 PM
Janet, here it is:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)

Notice the date March of 2010..That is exactly what I thught because George has pretty much been absent in court..unless he had to be there himself.. since that time.

So it appears it took a year for them to come around to the fact that not only had Casey made these accusations..but they were going to use them in trial.

I imagine the family was so shocked and hurt when the letters came out and then I imagine if Baez asked if they were true and George denied it and the subject probably was dropped until about 6 weeks ago.  And her accusations in court from Baez opening statements seem to be much worse then what she wrote in the letters to prison pal Robyn the year before.  I guess a year just makes for more time to embellish the lie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 29, 2011, 11:55:59 PM
 ::snipping2::

From the defense, jurors were presented with a loving mother, whose dysfunctional family forced her to live in a state of denial. They argue the family held dark secrets, including that Casey was sexually abused by her father and brother.



Is Casey Anthony defense believable?

George Anthony: I smelled human corpse

Casey's dad back on the stand RELATED TOPICS
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"It all began when Casey was 8 years old and her father came in and began to touch her inappropriately," Anthony's lead defense attorney, Jose Baez, said during his opening arguments Tuesday.

The defense says Caylee drowned in the family pool as the result of what Baez called "an accident that snowballed out of control." He said it was an accident to which Casey's father, George Anthony, was privy. Baez said George Anthony tried to cover up the drowning at Casey's expense.

"As soon as Casey came around this corner and went back she saw George holding Caylee in his arms," Baez said as he showed a diagram of the Anthony home and pool. "And shortly thereafter George began to yell at her, 'Look what you've done!'"

 ::snipping2::

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/28/casey.anthony.trial.wrap/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 29, 2011, 11:57:24 PM
I dont think KC was a good mother. I think she is a pretender..a bullchit artist
When people are looking she knew how to act and God only knows what she did to her when people werent looking, like knock her out to party

Agreed again... I also think that all the 20 something year old friends were easy to impress that she was a good mother...they have no clue what a good mother is....

Does anyone know "How much time " did Casey actuall have her ?? It seems to me her parents did alot, her freinds did NOT spend enough time with both Caylee & Casey to even begin to know what kind of mother she really was let alone to even know if she was abused and it wasn't Casey who provided for Caylee's clothes , food , toys, needs etc...

It really bothers me that we have no real idea where Caylee was prior to death when no one saw her with Casey and she was NOT with GA & CA?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 12:00:39 AM
When I went to bed before, I had Iassen (spelling) on the witness stand in my mind laughing at Jar, and jar's first question, did you know the child, lol, and I could not stop laughing.  He is such a fool.

lol zoo that was so funny wasnt it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:02:38 AM
When I went to bed before, I had Iassen (spelling) on the witness stand in my mind laughing at Jar, and jar's first question, did you know the child, lol, and I could not stop laughing.  He is such a fool.

lol zoo that was so funny wasnt it.

It was too funny.  Jar went up there like he was gonna give him what for, and he just looked like an old senile fool.  I am impressed the witness was able to control his laugh, cause I would not have been able to.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 30, 2011, 12:02:56 AM
Maggot Testimony May Be Problem for Prosecution

 ::snipping2::

There was no body in the trunk of Casey's Pontiac, only a bag of household trash, a pizza box and maggots. "I personally saw maggots," George testified.

Maggot Don't Live That Long

The testimony about maggots could prove to be a problem for the prosecution's theory that the maggots prove that there was a dead body in the trunk of the car, when forensic experts take the stand.

The lifespan of a maggot is four to 10 days, after which it molts into the pupal stage and turns into a fly.

Casey's car had been locked in the impound yard for 16 days and was locked in the finance company's parking lot three days prior to that. If a decomposing body had been in the trunk of the car, it had not been there for at least 19 days.

That leaves three possibilities concerning the maggots in the trunk of the car: they were dead maggots, they either originated from the garbage in the trunk of the car, not a dead body, or George Anthony is lying about seeing maggots.

 ::snipping2::

http://crime.about.com/b/2011/05/28/maggot-testimony-may-be-problem-for-prosecution.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:03:56 AM
Geraldo Rivera says prosecution portraying Casey Anthony as a 'slut'

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut

All i got to say is if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:06:22 AM
“It clearly was the story of the prosecution case,” Rivera noted, saying Caylee allegedly died on June 16 and by June 20 Casey was out partying “...in the famous now notorious blue dress... doing the shimmy shimmy at the club.”

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut

Umm, I remember that that night she was bedding with Tony Lozarro and then the next day the 2 of them stayed in bed all day.  So, it was not by the 20th, but by the night her daughter died, a few mere hours later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: zoeandme on May 30, 2011, 12:08:46 AM
At the end of the day yesterday when the judge lets the jury go @29:00, watch ICA as they leave, especially @ 29:10.  She is looking closely at one of them, looks down, her eyes flit back and forth then @ 29:21 you can see on her face she has a AHA moment and speaks to Bobo, stares again towards the jury as she is skewing her mouth then raises one eyebrow.  I wish I knew what she was seeing that has caused her  at two different occasions during the day commented to Bobo.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28059097/index.html 

I watched and at 29:42 or so you can see Cindy's head as she walks away from the stand.  So maybe she was looking at Cindy?  I dont know, but I watched till the end and KC and JB & Co. all left to go to a meeting room supposedly.  KC cocks her head to the side and grins as the male deputy opens the door for them to exit.  She such an as*h**e!  I cannot take her courtroom antics anymore.  And that Dorothy Simms that sits next to her who does all the coddlingly and back rubbing is one hot mess.  Sorry for the interruption---just had to throw that out there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 12:09:00 AM
I am still at page 95, but wanted to comment about supposed discrepancies George may or may not have said in all of his testimony for 3 years on this matter.

Since the beginning, I have hated George and Cindy with as much venom as I have their spawn daughter.  But, to try and remember such minute details from interview to interview and what they said last time, I have never been a party to placing doubt on what they have said.  Trying to remember if he said he did or did not want to know who the father was from one interview to the next would be impossible for me.  I am sure, he is a father, he wanted to know who the father was.  Was or was there not duct tape on a gas can?  What sequence calls were made to police, what times they remembers things happening, and also all of her lies and when they were told to them, on which days, after which events, my mind would explode.  Add to that, they were trying to be evasive to help their spawn. 

None of this goes to the level of any impeachment for me anyway, nor does it prove that he found his darling granddaughter dead in a swimming pool and then bullied KC to hide her body.  IMO, it is ridiculous to give exactly the same statements each and every time they were interviewed.  They were distraught and missing their granddaughter, trying to find her, and I would have a hard time remembering such minute details and would be more interested in tracking down leads to where my granddaughter was, if I believe she was alive, as they did back then. 

Another thing that has been bothering me.  According to Bozo, he hid or told KC they should hide Caylee.  Why?  How would that benefit George?  I do not believe for even 1 nanosecond that George would allow his precious granddaughter to lie in a swamp while she was decomposing so that whatever benefit the defense claims he would get would happen.  Even while I hated them as vigorously as I did, I believed they loved Caylee with all their heart. 

Anyway, I would have many more discrepancies if this were me and having to give numerous interviews over and over and over and remember what I said last time.  I will say this, at least they gave interviews, and did not lawyer up and shut their mouths, like their spawn did. 

what if and I mean what if! jose  has been walking them through all thse stateents from day 1 to build his career. He had been very connected to them from day 1. could he have told them what to do and what to say It was weird but perhaps they took him at his word and trusted him. they had no way of knowing he was not a good lawyer and had not been practicing law that long. so can he get in trouble .. if they tell everything he  guilded them into saying to save his client and build his rep??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:09:12 AM
I dont think KC was a good mother. I think she is a pretender..a bullchit artist
When people are looking she knew how to act and God only knows what she did to her when people werent looking, like knock her out to party

Agreed again... I also think that all the 20 something year old friends were easy to impress that she was a good mother...they have no clue what a good mother is....

Does anyone know "How much time " did Casey actuall have her ?? It seems to me her parents did alot, her freinds did NOT spend enough time with both Caylee & Casey to even begin to know what kind of mother she really was let alone to even know if she was abused and it wasn't Casey who provided for Caylee's clothes , food , toys, needs etc...

It really bothers me that we have no real idea where Caylee was prior to death when no one saw her with Casey and she was NOT with GA & CA?!

Yes, I want to know too, where Caylee and KC were for the 2 years before Caylee was murdered when she said she was going to work and the grandparents were not babysitting and nobody has reported seeing them.  Did she just dress for work and then drive around all day?  I think there is stuff we are not hearing because it was not during the 6 weeks and not admissable?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 12:11:12 AM
At the end of the day yesterday when the judge lets the jury go @29:00, watch ICA as they leave, especially @ 29:10.  She is looking closely at one of them, looks down, her eyes flit back and forth then @ 29:21 you can see on her face she has a AHA moment and speaks to Bobo, stares again towards the jury as she is skewing her mouth then raises one eyebrow.  I wish I knew what she was seeing that has caused her  at two different occasions during the day commented to Bobo.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28059097/index.html 

I captured just those few seconds.  Click on the photo below to watch just that part:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Casey%20Anthony%20Trial/th_SatMay28End.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Casey%20Anthony%20Trial/?action=view&current=SatMay28End.mp4)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 12:13:09 AM
“It clearly was the story of the prosecution case,” Rivera noted, saying Caylee allegedly died on June 16 and by June 20 Casey was out partying “...in the famous now notorious blue dress... doing the shimmy shimmy at the club.”

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut

Umm, I remember that that night she was bedding with Tony Lozarro and then the next day the 2 of them stayed in bed all day.  So, it was not by the 20th, but by the night her daughter died, a few mere hours later.
shimmy shimmy coco puff
dont think the jury will believe baez! that she was so  traumatized she just went cocoo....  hmmm and  that included an all day of bumpin and grinding.. seeing your child dead is an aphrodesiac! he is nuts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:15:19 AM
I am still at page 95, but wanted to comment about supposed discrepancies George may or may not have said in all of his testimony for 3 years on this matter.

Since the beginning, I have hated George and Cindy with as much venom as I have their spawn daughter.  But, to try and remember such minute details from interview to interview and what they said last time, I have never been a party to placing doubt on what they have said.  Trying to remember if he said he did or did not want to know who the father was from one interview to the next would be impossible for me.  I am sure, he is a father, he wanted to know who the father was.  Was or was there not duct tape on a gas can?  What sequence calls were made to police, what times they remembers things happening, and also all of her lies and when they were told to them, on which days, after which events, my mind would explode.  Add to that, they were trying to be evasive to help their spawn. 

None of this goes to the level of any impeachment for me anyway, nor does it prove that he found his darling granddaughter dead in a swimming pool and then bullied KC to hide her body.  IMO, it is ridiculous to give exactly the same statements each and every time they were interviewed.  They were distraught and missing their granddaughter, trying to find her, and I would have a hard time remembering such minute details and would be more interested in tracking down leads to where my granddaughter was, if I believe she was alive, as they did back then. 

Another thing that has been bothering me.  According to Bozo, he hid or told KC they should hide Caylee.  Why?  How would that benefit George?  I do not believe for even 1 nanosecond that George would allow his precious granddaughter to lie in a swamp while she was decomposing so that whatever benefit the defense claims he would get would happen.  Even while I hated them as vigorously as I did, I believed they loved Caylee with all their heart. 

Anyway, I would have many more discrepancies if this were me and having to give numerous interviews over and over and over and remember what I said last time.  I will say this, at least they gave interviews, and did not lawyer up and shut their mouths, like their spawn did. 

what if and I mean what if! jose  has been walking them through all thse stateents from day 1 to build his career. He had been very connected to them from day 1. could he have told them what to do and what to say It was weird but perhaps they took him at his word and trusted him. they had no way of knowing he was not a good lawyer and had not been practicing law that long. so can he get in trouble .. if they tell everything he  guilded them into saying to save his client and build his rep??

Loca, it is very possible that Bozo was guiding them as to what to say in the beginning, who knows.  He is lower than low, so anything is possible with that piece of chit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:19:23 AM
I haven't seen Blink around, has anybody else seen her here.  Her webpage too is not updated, as far as I can tell.  The last she has is about the Tax Lien. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 12:20:05 AM
What I want to know is who tossed the pavers in the woods..is that what she used the shovel for? Did she rinse it in the pool before she gave it back?

I'm wondering if she rinsed the shovel off in the yard and that's why cadeaver dogs hit in the yard?
oh wow that was a thought for me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 12:20:48 AM
I haven't seen Blink around, has anybody else seen her here.  Her webpage too is not updated, as far as I can tell.  The last she has is about the Tax Lien. 
she said something like she was going to spend family time. cant blame her next week may be brutal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 12:22:03 AM
I am still at page 95, but wanted to comment about supposed discrepancies George may or may not have said in all of his testimony for 3 years on this matter.

Since the beginning, I have hated George and Cindy with as much venom as I have their spawn daughter.  But, to try and remember such minute details from interview to interview and what they said last time, I have never been a party to placing doubt on what they have said.  Trying to remember if he said he did or did not want to know who the father was from one interview to the next would be impossible for me.  I am sure, he is a father, he wanted to know who the father was.  Was or was there not duct tape on a gas can?  What sequence calls were made to police, what times they remembers things happening, and also all of her lies and when they were told to them, on which days, after which events, my mind would explode.  Add to that, they were trying to be evasive to help their spawn. 

None of this goes to the level of any impeachment for me anyway, nor does it prove that he found his darling granddaughter dead in a swimming pool and then bullied KC to hide her body.  IMO, it is ridiculous to give exactly the same statements each and every time they were interviewed.  They were distraught and missing their granddaughter, trying to find her, and I would have a hard time remembering such minute details and would be more interested in tracking down leads to where my granddaughter was, if I believe she was alive, as they did back then. 

Another thing that has been bothering me.  According to Bozo, he hid or told KC they should hide Caylee.  Why?  How would that benefit George?  I do not believe for even 1 nanosecond that George would allow his precious granddaughter to lie in a swamp while she was decomposing so that whatever benefit the defense claims he would get would happen.  Even while I hated them as vigorously as I did, I believed they loved Caylee with all their heart. 

Anyway, I would have many more discrepancies if this were me and having to give numerous interviews over and over and over and remember what I said last time.  I will say this, at least they gave interviews, and did not lawyer up and shut their mouths, like their spawn did. 

what if and I mean what if! jose  has been walking them through all thse stateents from day 1 to build his career. He had been very connected to them from day 1. could he have told them what to do and what to say It was weird but perhaps they took him at his word and trusted him. they had no way of knowing he was not a good lawyer and had not been practicing law that long. so can he get in trouble .. if they tell everything he  guilded them into saying to save his client and build his rep??

Loca, it is very possible that Bozo was guiding them as to what to say in the beginning, who knows.  He is lower than low, so anything is possible with that piece of chit.
zoo
amd possibly cindy revenge on him is to tell it like it is.. nark  him off... than what would happen?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:22:33 AM
I haven't seen Blink around, has anybody else seen her here.  Her webpage too is not updated, as far as I can tell.  The last she has is about the Tax Lien. 
she said something like she was going to spend family time. cant blame her next week may be brutal.

Oh okay.  I must have missed that.  Thanks!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 12:23:45 AM
I haven't seen Blink around, has anybody else seen her here.  Her webpage too is not updated, as far as I can tell.  The last she has is about the Tax Lien. 

I know that Blink was busy with family outing type stuff this weekend.  I have IM'd with her early this morning.  I suspect she will be online sometimes tonight to process her comments that are in moderation (if she hasn't already done so).  She's fine..just busy with real life family stuff.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:29:39 AM
I haven't seen Blink around, has anybody else seen her here.  Her webpage too is not updated, as far as I can tell.  The last she has is about the Tax Lien. 

I know that Blink was busy with family outing type stuff this weekend.  I have IM'd with her early this morning.  I suspect she will be online sometimes tonight to process her comments that are in moderation (if she hasn't already done so).  She's fine..just busy with real life family stuff.  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks.  I was just really curious to see her opinion on Cindy on Saturday.  Glad she got some family time in. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 30, 2011, 12:38:43 AM
Thank you Klaas for grabbing that piece of video.

Can someone confirm if this old brain is correct in that some time ago Lee's attorney said he was no longer required by Lee as Lee would be telling the truth?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 30, 2011, 12:39:58 AM
And on June 16, George went to work after all this happened.
Was he in denial and abused as a child also and suffering from the same mental issues as KC ? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 12:40:38 AM
for anyone who cares to know lol
geraldo at large is now back in new york and is having an exclusive tonight.

Thanks!  I caught the end of his "preview" a little while ago and his opinions will make the blood pressure rise and the barf-o-meter go off the charts!!  ( If I was George, I would try my best to see if I could sue for slander....if possible!!  Geraldo seems frantic, in my view-so no holds barred. )

someone posted awhile back (sorry don't remember who) that he was playing into it to get the "jailhouse interview" after she's convicted.  THAT makes alot of sense to me!  (plus he's an idiot & there's tons of people in the news anti Casey and few pro Casey so he'd definitely get some air time!)

LOL..I posted I thuoght he was going to try to get the jailhouse interview after she is convicted.  He did an interview many years ago with Charles Manson..he likes that kind of  thing..he can get big publicity and big lead up time into the whole deal.. I just wouldn't be surprised if that is on the backburner for him..with an in from Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 30, 2011, 12:40:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOxOMRHXls&feature=youtu.be
The computer store owner dude, saw Casey and Caylee together the day after Father's day at Walmart. So apparently the state has a witness that can cast doubt on any story that Caylee drowned, at least on that morning.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1198&start=700
Casey refused to give her DNA, Sherriff's office had to get a warrant to go get it from her. (pg. 49)
posted by Julia
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:43 pm


I tried to add the link but after trying to preview here! the link didnt work ! however it is working at the hinky link above.

very interesting information.

That never came out b4....Wonder how much other stuff will come out that didn't hit the news...
Wonder what time it was, will have to wait......pout.

Another dig deeper.  ::MonkeyShovel::  The whole is getting bigger and bigger.....

I wonder what time the witness saw KC with Caylee on the 17th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 12:44:12 AM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 12:45:23 AM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the road.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 12:46:11 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.

Well, it appears I pegged that one...seems to me that will be what Lippman's motion is in regard to

Hello Monks---

So, let me see if I have this right.  A young mother is being tried in a capital murder case accused of killing her toddler.  Her attorney presents a defense as we are all entitled to have our attorneys do under similar circumstances.  The defendant is not required to disprove the states charges. (Yes, I know, a ridiculous defense, but their defense nonetheless.)  Then an attorney for two witnesses, grandparents of the victim, files to force the defense to prove their case to him, the attorney for the two witnesses, and/or abandon it.  The defense attorney cannot be sued for slander as what is said in court is protected.   By doing this, the defense would be forced to admit the theory is a lie.  Do you two really think a third party could interject himself in a murder case in this way and demolish the defense theory and de facto admit guilt? You don't think this would be a violation of Casey Anthony's Constitution rights? 


It's just my opinion, but I think there are some "Worries" here.

All I can say is I do not believe that is what his motion is about because that does not concern the court in this case.  Meaning the A's suing Baez would not have anything to do with making a motion in this case.  This case is The State of Florida vs Casey Anthony.   

The only motion I can think that the A's attorney might be making at this point would be to seal the GJ testimony..which IIRC has still not been released to the defense or the jury..the judge took that under consideration from a motion Baez made.  JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2011, 12:47:23 AM
Thank you Klaas for grabbing that piece of video.

Can someone confirm if this old brain is correct in that some time ago Lee's attorney said he was no longer required by Lee as Lee would be telling the truth?

I remember that, Northern. His attorney said he was no longer needed.

I believe it was right after Lee was granted immunity. (?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:47:37 AM
And on June 16, George went to work after all this happened.
Was he in denial and abused as a child also and suffering from the same mental issues as KC ? 

Yeah, can you imagine?  A grandfather finds his 2-1/2 yo granddaughter floating in a pool, he hides her body somehwere (who knows where), and then just goes on to work.  Their theory makes absoultely no sense.  They would have been much better off had they said she drowned and KC panicked and hid her body.  All this other stuff, Kronk and George, the coverup, there is no benefit to it to them, and it makes no sense.  I am confident the jury will see that. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 30, 2011, 12:49:01 AM
Thank you Klaas for grabbing that piece of video.

Can someone confirm if this old brain is correct in that some time ago Lee's attorney said he was no longer required by Lee as Lee would be telling the truth?

I found it

Lee Anthony's Lawyer Exits Case
Attorney Says Casey Anthony's Brother No Longer Needs Representation
 July 30, 2009

http://www.wesh.com/news/20222439/detail.html

Lee no longer has a lawyer.  Last time Lippman filed a motion it was to ask that the Rosebuds be allowed to watch the trial.  What if Lippman's newest motion is requesting to allow Lee watch the trial so he can support his parents?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2011, 12:50:07 AM
Thank you Klaas for grabbing that piece of video.

Can someone confirm if this old brain is correct in that some time ago Lee's attorney said he was no longer required by Lee as Lee would be telling the truth?

I remember that, Northern. His attorney said he was no longer needed.

I believe it was right after Lee was granted immunity. (?)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorney for Lee Anthony said he is exiting the case as his "representation is no longer necessary."

http://www.wesh.com/news/20222439/detail.html#ixzz1No9qTnyz


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:50:38 AM
The Anthonys may have filed a document with the court requiring bozo to prove his damaging allegations or apologize and stop using them. If he does not they will prosecute him for lying to a court of law. I can see that happening. I can't wait to read this document.

Well, it appears I pegged that one...seems to me that will be what Lippman's motion is in regard to

Hello Monks---

So, let me see if I have this right.  A young mother is being tried in a capital murder case accused of killing her toddler.  Her attorney presents a defense as we are all entitled to have our attorneys do under similar circumstances.  The defendant is not required to disprove the states charges. (Yes, I know, a ridiculous defense, but their defense nonetheless.)  Then an attorney for two witnesses, grandparents of the victim, files to force the defense to prove their case to him, the attorney for the two witnesses, and/or abandon it.  The defense attorney cannot be sued for slander as what is said in court is protected.   By doing this, the defense would be forced to admit the theory is a lie.  Do you two really think a third party could interject himself in a murder case in this way and demolish the defense theory and de facto admit guilt? You don't think this would be a violation of Casey Anthony's Constitution rights? 


It's just my opinion, but I think there are some "Worries" here.

All I can say is I do not believe that is what his motion is about because that does not concern the court in this case.  Meaning the A's suing Baez would not have anything to do with making a motion in this case.  This case is The State of Florida vs Casey Anthony.   

The only motion I can think that the A's attorney might be making at this point would be to seal the GJ testimony..which IIRC has still not been released to the defense or the jury..the judge took that under consideration from a motion Baez made.  JMHO

I was thinking about this.  Is it possible for them to file to get them out of having to testify during KC's murder trial any longer? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 12:50:53 AM
Thank you Klaas for grabbing that piece of video.

Can someone confirm if this old brain is correct in that some time ago Lee's attorney said he was no longer required by Lee as Lee would be telling the truth?

I remember that, Northern. His attorney said he was no longer needed.

I believe it was right after Lee was granted immunity. (?)

http://www.wesh.com/news/20222439/detail.html

Lee Anthony's Lawyer Exits Case
Attorney Says Casey Anthony's Brother No Longer Needs Representation


POSTED: 6:24 am EDT July 30, 2009
UPDATED: 1:22 pm EDT July 31, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorney for Lee Anthony said he is exiting the case as his "representation is no longer necessary."

Anthony's sister, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, Caylee. After eight hours of deposition, Tom Luka said Anthony "spilled it all and nothing was different."

As a result of his testimony, Luka said Lee Anthony has what's called "use immunity" from prosecution, though he said Anthony never did anything to warrant being charged in connection with the case.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 12:52:37 AM
Hi king ...
I disagree, if casey did put pavers on top of the garage bag, no one could see it.  I don't think she wanted anyone to find her. 
If Caylee would of been found earlier, might of know for sure how she died.

Also I wonder how many of the jury followed the scott peterson's trial.  They convicted on a lot less.
Sort of the same thing, so to speak.  Wanted to live the good life. No responsibilities.  ::monkeywine2::


 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 12:53:45 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunity_from_prosecution

Immunity from prosecution
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For a prosecutor's immunity against liability for official acts, see Qualified immunity. For other forms of legal immunity, see Immunity (legal).


Immunity from prosecution occurs when a prosecutor grants immunity, usually to a witness in exchange for testimony or production of other evidence. It is immunity because the prosecutor essentially agrees to never prosecute the crime that the witness might have committed in exchange for said evidence.

The prosecution may grant immunity in one of two forms. Transactional immunity (colloquially known as "blanket" or "total" immunity) completely protects the witness from future prosecution for crimes related to his or her testimony. "Use and derivative use" immunity prevents the prosecution only from using the witness's own testimony or any evidence derived from the testimony against the witness. However, should the prosecutor acquire evidence substantiating the supposed crime—independently of the witness's testimony—the witness may then be prosecuted for same.

While prosecutors at the state level may offer a witness either transactional or use and derivative use immunity, at the federal level, use and derivative use immunity is the norm.[citation needed]
[edit] Grand Jury testimony

Witnesses compelled by subpoena to appear before a grand jury are entitled to receive immunity in exchange for their testimony. The grant of immunity impairs the witness's right to invoke the Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination as a legal basis for refusing to testify. If a witness who has been granted immunity nevertheless refuses to offer testimony, he may be held in contempt of the court that issued the subpoena.

In Kastigar v. United States, 406 U.S. 441 (1972), the Supreme Court confronted the issue of which type of immunity, use or transactional, is constitutionally required in order to compel testimony. The Court ruled that the grant of "use and derivative use" immunity is sufficient.

Despite the ruling in Kastigar, the type of immunity required to compel testimony depends on the law of the applicable jurisdiction. Many states, such as New York, do more than the Federal Constitution requires and mandate that transactional immunity be accorded to compelled witnesses.[1]

In states where a defendant has a right to testify on his own behalf at a grand jury proceeding, waiver of immunity is invariably a condition of that right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 30, 2011, 12:54:03 AM
Thank you Klaas for grabbing that piece of video.

Can someone confirm if this old brain is correct in that some time ago Lee's attorney said he was no longer required by Lee as Lee would be telling the truth?

I remember that, Northern. His attorney said he was no longer needed.

I believe it was right after Lee was granted immunity. (?)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The attorney for Lee Anthony said he is exiting the case as his "representation is no longer necessary."

http://www.wesh.com/news/20222439/detail.html#ixzz1No9qTnyz


^5. 

I forgot about this little gem that was in that same article:

 ::snipping2::


Also on Thursday, newly released documents raise questions about why for months the defense held on to more than two dozen items belonging to or related to Caylee Anthony.

Attorney Jose Baez on Thursday strongly denied that he was trying to withhold evidence from investigators for his client, Casey Anthony.
Outside the Orange County Courthouse Baez was on the defensive a single document among more than 1,000 released on Thursday. It is a laundry list of items his spokeswoman said they took from the Anthony home in September, such as books, baby toys, puzzle pieces and Spiderman toothbrush

http://www.wesh.com/news/20222439/detail.html

If they knew Caylee drown on June 16th, then why would they need all these items other than to possible sell them later on for $$$$$$$$


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 12:54:27 AM
If I were a man on the jury, I could not help but sit there thinking "Holy crapola, if all it takes to prove a man molested a woman is to just SAY it happened without any proof of any kind, then all of mankind has got some serious, legitimate concerns!"



loca ... I see your point.  However ... it should be understood a pedophile within the family unit does not sexually abuse his victim in front of witnesses.  This pedophile has the ability to control ... to silence his victim through various threats and promises.  A pedophile can convince a victim that speaking out would destroy the famly unit and ... if that happened if would be all her fault. A pedophile can cpnvince his victim that she will not be believed if she speaks out.

I am thankful that children today are being empowered at an early age through education not to be intimidated by ANYONE who touches them inappropriately.

Janet
 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 12:57:11 AM
Hi king ...
I disagree, if casey did put pavers on top of the garage bag, no one could see it.  I don't think she wanted anyone to find her. 
If Caylee would of been found earlier, might of know for sure how she died.

Also I wonder how many of the jury followed the scott peterson's trial.  They convicted on a lot less.
Sort of the same thing, so to speak.  Wanted to live the good life. No responsibilities.  ::monkeywine2::


 

Were there actual paver stones with the body/remains?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 01:09:45 AM
Hi king ...
I disagree, if casey did put pavers on top of the garage bag, no one could see it.  I don't think she wanted anyone to find her. 
If Caylee would of been found earlier, might of know for sure how she died.

Also I wonder how many of the jury followed the scott peterson's trial.  They convicted on a lot less.
Sort of the same thing, so to speak.  Wanted to live the good life. No responsibilities.  ::monkeywine2::


 

Were there actual paver stones with the body/remains?
Not sure, ppl on this board were discussing the pavers that were found in the woods.
Remember there was animals around digging and moving her body.  Was sped all over.  That sounds gross, sry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 01:14:25 AM
Hi king ...
I disagree, if casey did put pavers on top of the garage bag, no one could see it.  I don't think she wanted anyone to find her. 
If Caylee would of been found earlier, might of know for sure how she died.

Also I wonder how many of the jury followed the scott peterson's trial.  They convicted on a lot less.
Sort of the same thing, so to speak.  Wanted to live the good life. No responsibilities.  ::monkeywine2::


 

Were there actual paver stones with the body/remains?

I don't recall that there were any paver stones with the remains.

There was a little pile of pavers in close proximity - like someone threw leftover stones away...in the vacinity...but not close enough to be considered with the remains.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 30, 2011, 01:15:39 AM
Geraldo Rivera Talks About the Disturbing Details in Casey Anthony Trial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsAdTGh_AI&feature=player_embedded#at=20

Whoraldo claims the prosecution is doing an excellent job in the "slutification process of ICA".  Newsflash Whoraldo - ICA had no problems doing that on her own and the prosecution is just telling people about it.  I am sure when she is in general pop she will again be wearing her ankles for earrings just like the good old days. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 01:21:57 AM
Geraldo Rivera Talks About the Disturbing Details in Casey Anthony Trial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsAdTGh_AI&feature=player_embedded#at=20

Whoraldo claims the prosecution is doing an excellent job in the "slutification process of ICA".  Newsflash Whoraldo - ICA had no problems doing that on her own and the prosecution is just telling people about it.  I am sure when she is in general pop she will again be wearing her ankles for earrings just like the good old days. 

Just watch whoraldo.....he's not a straight shooter.  I never watch him...
Did this time....won't again...... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Northern Rose on May 30, 2011, 01:23:42 AM
Casey Anthony's Relationship With Parents
May 29, 2011
- 7:16 -
Gloria Allred and author Diane Fanning weigh in


http://video.foxnews.com/v/965575985001/casey-anthonys-relationship-with-parents/?playlist_id=87937



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 01:23:43 AM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

Darn... my kids are watching "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" and wont let me change it... can someone plz keep us updated as to what he is blowing about tonight?


bribe em with a trip to mcdonalds lol
ok they asked judge alex ... the t.v judge  what side was he on he said.. both sides
the prosecution will get a  first degree murder conviction
the defense will win in that they will not get the death penalty for casey

they are showing the meltdown on saturday.. after commercial... also gerlado thinks she will get manslaughter and win on appeal.. like he thinks baez can manage that...

whoraldo is an idiot.....if Jose were JOE or JONATHAN or GERMAINE whoraldo would not be giving this case one moment of airtime..... wish someone would ask the fool who's ass he kicked in Orlando?? ::MonkeyDevil::

LOL..His own!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 01:32:48 AM


How a Human Body Decomposes after Death

When doctors note a time of death, it is the moment that the heart beat stops. At this time a person loses awareness and their muscles relax completely. Certain parts of the body, such as brain cells, remain alive for a further three to seven minutes. Shortly after death, the contents of the stomach may be regurgitated and urine and semen emitted.

The First 24 Hours after Death
In The Good Death Guide, Michael Dunn describes the changes in a body in the first day after death. The first significant sign is a sharp drop in body temperature. This is referred to as algor mortis. Other changes include the following:

The skin turns a greyish-white colour.
The eyes become dull and film over and the pupils dilate.
Skin loses elasticity.
Blood sinks by gravity, turning areas where it settles blue and purple.
Lactic acid is produced in muscles causing the stiffness of rigor mortis. This starts developing one to four hours after death and is complete after 24 hours. The effects can last 36-48 hours.
Changes in a Corpse from Two Days to a Week after Death
Michael Dunn states that putrefaction of body tissue begins after about two days. Refrigeration can delay this and very hot dry air will dry out the body and mummify it. Embalming will preserve a body for a limited length of time. If a body is left untreated at room temperature, it will go through the following stages:


Read more at Suite101: How a Human Body Decomposes after Death | Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/content/how-a-human-body-decomposes-after-death-a224044#ixzz1NnhAbvez


Thanks pharlap.

Jand


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 01:33:59 AM
Maybe KC got it mixed up with whose penis was whose.................lol

((EDIT- although I know it's one of Casey's photos I think we should leave it out of Caylee's thread - I'll edit the photo))

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3466/5774522192_90bc7ec001.jpg)

From this pic evidently Casey was known for her abilities in that area..and prided herself enough on that fact to have a picture taken. If I was the other girl they were obviously sending the pic to..possibly an ex girlfriend of this guy..I would be delighted I was no longer associated with him or these women.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 01:35:07 AM
Casey is the one holding the sign  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 01:36:27 AM
Loca - I'm removing all 3 to the break room


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 01:36:40 AM
Maybe KC got it mixed up with whose penis was whose.................lol

((EDIT- although I know it's one of Casey's photos I think we should leave it out of Caylee's thread - I'll edit the photo))

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3466/5774522192_90bc7ec001.jpg)

From this pic evidently Casey was known for her abilities in that area..and prided herself enough on that fact to have a picture taken. If I was the other girl they were obviously sending the pic to..possibly an ex girlfriend of this guy..I would be delighted I was no longer associated with him or these women.


omg please tell me she is pretending!! TO!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 01:38:46 AM
Loca - I'm removing all 3 to the break room
ok klaas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 01:38:48 AM
Yes pretending and it is Casey holding the sign. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on May 30, 2011, 01:53:55 AM
Yes pretending and it is Casey holding the sign. 
I have almost gotten caught up.  Couple of questions before going to bed.  Are they going to take up the Lippman's motion at 8:30 Tuesday morning, and did the state get done with Cindy Anthony or will she be up again with the state before being crossed (bullied) by Bozo? 

I have never followed a murder case on television and I'm am so confused.  Are all defense attorney's as arrogant as Bozo?  I get happy and then depressed.  I don't know if I will be able to watch it all.  I will try to follow on here and watch on t.v. but my priority is my granddaughter since preschool will be out Tuesday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 02:07:15 AM
Yes pretending and it is Casey holding the sign. 
I have almost gotten caught up.  Couple of questions before going to bed.  Are they going to take up the Lippman's motion at 8:30 Tuesday morning, and did the state get done with Cindy Anthony or will she be up again with the state before being crossed (bullied) by Bozo? 

I have never followed a murder case on television and I'm am so confused.  Are all defense attorney's as arrogant as Bozo?  I get happy and then depressed.  I don't know if I will be able to watch it all.   I will try to follow on here and watch on t.v. but my priority is my granddaughter since preschool will be out Tuesday.

I know this happens to me too and if we are feeling this way, imagine what the jury is feeling, and they cannot even talk amongst themselves.  They have nobody to get this out to.  They cannot talk to family about it.  They are pretty much in a cage for the next 6 weeks all because she is a hoebag who cannot tell the truth.  They may get to do things arranged by the jduge, but they cannot go sit in a bar have a few beers, go take a walk to clear their heads w/o an armed guard accompanying them, or even just vent if they feel they need to about, oh, I don't know, what a bully Bozo is or even something as simple as how annoying all the side bars are.  I would hate to be them.  We can click the x and go do whatever we want to.  They cannot. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 02:09:38 AM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....

I know the Winnie the Pooh blanket was found at the remains site..but I never read where it was wrapped around her..her bones were scattered in a very large area...is there a link where I could read more about the blanket? 

I don't picture Casey wrapping her in the blanket as a comfort gesture..after she shot her up with chloroform, duct taped her mouth and nose tightly embedding it in her hair, then trash bags..fianlly a laundry hamper..it would really shock me if the blanket was wrapped around her..I think that was something left in the car she pitched out.

The heart sticker was the final kiss off if you will..she loved her more in death then in life.  It wasn't a loving gesture in my opinion it was just the opposite.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 02:20:47 AM
From newest to oldest, this is most of the evidence released in the murder case against Casey Anthony and will be updated as new evidence is released.

http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html

I just finished catching up.  Thanks to all for updates, research and insights. It was appreciated.

Good Night All!  It is way past my bedtime.

Janet
11:20 PM PT



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 02:54:26 AM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/caseythrowsafitttttttt.jpg)
caseys meltdown


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 03:16:38 AM
wait a minute if casey took the teddy bear because she hated that cindy found comfort in it!
so this had to have been during one of the times casey was in jail right? so if there was a plumbing problem that casey mentioned to someone!
does that mean that possibly casey shredded the teddy bear and tried to flush it or something! therefore the plumbing problem?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 30, 2011, 03:56:50 AM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/caseythrowsafitttttttt.jpg)
caseys meltdown

The caption under that picture of Casey needs to read, "Lie, Mama, Lie!"

I've had a lot to catch up, but the testimony about Cindy sleeping with Teddy struck me. Linda asked her if she told KC about sleeping with the bear and Cindy first said "yes" and then in a few seconds added, "I think." She went on to say that she was sure she had shared it with KC, but thinks it was at a later time.

I thought it was significant in that if Cindy had told her at that particular time, KC would not have taken the bear because it would have revealed she had been to the house. However, because Cindy did not tell KC then, KC didn't know it was an item that would surely be missed when she came to the house and took it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 04:18:07 AM
The motion by lippman

According to the below post and link, it appears the motino is for Lee to be able to sit in the court room and be excluded from sequestration too.

justbeachy 
Registered User   Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 949 
 
Lee wants to sit in courtroom during trial

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Just saw this on WESH. I have it dvr'd but can't find a link online.

Anyway, the teaser said that LA wants to sit in the courtroom during the trial and his attorney is going to file a motion regarding that.

Full report at 11 pm tonight on WESH.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138038


I looked for a google link or a wesh article, but cannot find one. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 04:19:14 AM
The motion by lippman

According to the below post and link, it appears the motino is for Lee to be able to sit in the court room and be excluded from sequestration too.

justbeachy 
Registered User   Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 949 
 
Lee wants to sit in courtroom during trial

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just saw this on WESH. I have it dvr'd but can't find a link online.

Anyway, the teaser said that LA wants to sit in the courtroom during the trial and his attorney is going to file a motion regarding that.

Full report at 11 pm tonight on WESH.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138038


I looked for a google link or a wesh article, but cannot find one. 

Oh wait, it says "his attorney" so that would not be lippman.  Back to square one.  Unless Lippman is now representing Lee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 04:20:33 AM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....

I know the Winnie the Pooh blanket was found at the remains site..but I never read where it was wrapped around her..her bones were scattered in a very large area...is there a link where I could read more about the blanket? 

I don't picture Casey wrapping her in the blanket as a comfort gesture..after she shot her up with chloroform, duct taped her mouth and nose tightly embedding it in her hair, then trash bags..fianlly a laundry hamper..it would really shock me if the blanket was wrapped around her..I think that was something left in the car she pitched out.

The heart sticker was the final kiss off if you will..she loved her more in death then in life.  It wasn't a loving gesture in my opinion it was just the opposite.

Like everything else, Gypsy, I'm speculating about the use of blanket.

I'm assuming the blanket located with or around the remains is the one we've seen pictured on Caylee's bed- which sorta looks like a toddler bed comforter, which was part of a set, and was normally kept on Caylee's bed. 

What would be the purpose of removing the blanket off the bed?

In an emergency situation?  To provide warmth? To comfort?  To wrap up?


In addition to the two black garbage bags with yellow handles, for concealing,

In addition to the canvas type laundry bag with handles, for transporting,

In addition to the Henkel brand duct tape, used for?

I don't know where, on SM, but it was discussed there were remnants of a picture frame located- allegedly at the remains site, one of which had a red heart/sticker on the matting at one time. 

One of our monkeys mentioned it- stated the actual photo with the sticker was viewed on the NG show with the sticker.

Anyone remember discussing this please clarify, TIA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 04:21:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJIFYUBeEs
casey calls 911 on the protesters but does not call when her child went missing
she even referred to them as punks and says this has to stop now!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 04:32:47 AM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/caseythrowsafitttttttt.jpg)
caseys meltdown

The caption under that picture of Casey needs to read, "Lie, Mama, Lie!"

I've had a lot to catch up, but the testimony about Cindy sleeping with Teddy struck me. Linda asked her if she told KC about sleeping with the bear and Cindy first said "yes" and then in a few seconds added, "I think." She went on to say that she was sure she had shared it with KC, but thinks it was at a later time.

I thought it was significant in that if Cindy had told her at that particular time, KC would not have taken the bear because it would have revealed she had been to the house. However, because Cindy did not tell KC then, KC didn't know it was an item that would surely be missed when she came to the house and took it.

Casey was an alleged thief. 

I'm sure if she snuck into the house, she went into her parents room to see what she could steal.  Casey didn't seem like she respected boundries~

Knowing that this particular bear was a favorite of Caylee's, upon going into her parents bedrooom and recognizing Caylee's bear on Cindy's bed, if we are to believe the jealousy angle, Casey would have been outraged and either removed and destroyed the bear, threw the bear away or took it with her for her own comfort.

She wouldn't have left it there for Cindy as in her sick mind, this bear represented Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 04:37:50 AM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/caseythrowsafitttttttt.jpg)
caseys meltdown

The caption under that picture of Casey needs to read, "Lie, Mama, Lie!"

I've had a lot to catch up, but the testimony about Cindy sleeping with Teddy struck me. Linda asked her if she told KC about sleeping with the bear and Cindy first said "yes" and then in a few seconds added, "I think." She went on to say that she was sure she had shared it with KC, but thinks it was at a later time.

I thought it was significant in that if Cindy had told her at that particular time, KC would not have taken the bear because it would have revealed she had been to the house. However, because Cindy did not tell KC then, KC didn't know it was an item that would surely be missed when she came to the house and took it.

Casey was an alleged thief. 

I'm sure if she snuck into the house, she went into her parents room to see what she could steal.  Casey didn't seem like she respected boundries~

Knowing that this particular bear was a favorite of Caylee's, upon going into her parents bedrooom and recognizing Caylee's bear on Cindy's bed, if we are to believe the jealousy angle, Casey would have been outraged and either removed and destroyed the bear, threw the bear away or took it with her for her own comfort.

She wouldn't have left it there for Cindy as in her sick mind, this bear represented Caylee.
exactly I couldnt have said it better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 04:40:20 AM
What is Mr. Hornsby insinuating with this remark on Jeff Ashton? 

Having tried cases with Jeff, the best compliment I can give him is that he cross-examines witnesses like a zealous defense attorney crossing a jail-house snitch. I could easily see Casey Anthony snapping against Jeff Ashton and her completely breaking down on the stand.

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 04:45:57 AM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kcaftermeltdown.jpg)
kc after the meltdown

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kcface.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 04:47:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JtfGDdTjE0&feature=related

omg she is evil.. hadnt seen this footage!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 30, 2011, 04:51:05 AM
Wow........... that looks like a picture of a cold blooded killer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 30, 2011, 04:54:16 AM
What is Mr. Hornsby insinuating with this remark on Jeff Ashton? 

Having tried cases with Jeff, the best compliment I can give him is that he cross-examines witnesses like a zealous defense attorney crossing a jail-house snitch. I could easily see Casey Anthony snapping against Jeff Ashton and her completely breaking down on the stand.

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/

He is stating in essence that if Casey takes the stand & Jeff Ashton cross examines her that he will successfully break down her lies & she doesnt stand a chance.  In all likelihood she will show her anger & true colors for all to see, there is no way she will hold up during it, much less come out the better end for having testified.  During many pretrial hearings it has been noticed that Casey has exhibited disdain toward him, especially the day he put forward an early State position on what they theorize Casey did & how.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 30, 2011, 04:55:14 AM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kcaftermeltdown.jpg)
kc after the meltdown

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kcface.jpg)

Pure evil


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 04:58:48 AM
What is Mr. Hornsby insinuating with this remark on Jeff Ashton? 

Having tried cases with Jeff, the best compliment I can give him is that he cross-examines witnesses like a zealous defense attorney crossing a jail-house snitch. I could easily see Casey Anthony snapping against Jeff Ashton and her completely breaking down on the stand.

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/

He is stating in essence that if Casey takes the stand & Jeff Ashton cross examines her that he will successfully break down her lies & she doesnt stand a chance.  In all likelihood she will show her anger & true colors for all to see, there is no way she will hold up during it, much less come out the better end for having testified.  During many pretrial hearings it has been noticed that Casey has exhibited disdain toward him, especially the day he put forward an early State position on what they theorize Casey did & how.

yeah, I get that, but it's the "the best compliment" part that is confusing me.  Does he not like Jeff?  I could think of much better compliments myself, so I am getting an anti-Jeff feeliing from him. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 30, 2011, 05:17:34 AM
What is Mr. Hornsby insinuating with this remark on Jeff Ashton? 

Having tried cases with Jeff, the best compliment I can give him is that he cross-examines witnesses like a zealous defense attorney crossing a jail-house snitch. I could easily see Casey Anthony snapping against Jeff Ashton and her completely breaking down on the stand.

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/

He is stating in essence that if Casey takes the stand & Jeff Ashton cross examines her that he will successfully break down her lies & she doesnt stand a chance.  In all likelihood she will show her anger & true colors for all to see, there is no way she will hold up during it, much less come out the better end for having testified.  During many pretrial hearings it has been noticed that Casey has exhibited disdain toward him, especially the day he put forward an early State position on what they theorize Casey did & how.

yeah, I get that, but it's the "the best compliment" part that is confusing me.  Does he not like Jeff?  I could think of much better compliments myself, so I am getting an anti-Jeff feeliing from him. 

I believe Hornsby is a mediawhore & someone that appears very envious of people that are perceived to more successful than him.  IMHO, his comment "the best compliment" is indeed a favorable one denoting Ashton's obvious abilities but with some animosity and/or envy attached.   He's also a defense attorney so its not a stretch to say that he may have negative feelings towards prosecutors in general...to me he's a koolaid drinker & very self-absorbed.  Hornsby has also had some rather childish reactions toward Bill Schaeffer who analyzes often for WFTV, in fact rather nasty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 05:31:16 AM
What is Mr. Hornsby insinuating with this remark on Jeff Ashton? 

Having tried cases with Jeff, the best compliment I can give him is that he cross-examines witnesses like a zealous defense attorney crossing a jail-house snitch. I could easily see Casey Anthony snapping against Jeff Ashton and her completely breaking down on the stand.

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/

He is stating in essence that if Casey takes the stand & Jeff Ashton cross examines her that he will successfully break down her lies & she doesnt stand a chance.  In all likelihood she will show her anger & true colors for all to see, there is no way she will hold up during it, much less come out the better end for having testified.  During many pretrial hearings it has been noticed that Casey has exhibited disdain toward him, especially the day he put forward an early State position on what they theorize Casey did & how.

yeah, I get that, but it's the "the best compliment" part that is confusing me.  Does he not like Jeff?  I could think of much better compliments myself, so I am getting an anti-Jeff feeliing from him. 

I believe Hornsby is a mediawhore & someone that appears very envious of people that are perceived to more successful than him.  IMHO, his comment "the best compliment" is indeed a favorable one denoting Ashton's obvious abilities but with some animosity and/or envy attached.   He's also a defense attorney so its not a stretch to say that he may have negative feelings towards prosecutors in general...to me he's a koolaid drinker & very self-absorbed.  Hornsby has also had some rather childish reactions toward Bill Schaeffer who analyzes often for WFTV, in fact rather nasty.

Okay, that is what I get too.  He also believes she will not be found guilty of 1st degree murder maybe manslaughter and will win on appeal? 

Sometimes these talking heads have me wondering if I live on the same planet as them, becasue what I know, would find her guilty w/o a doubt and at least a LWOP sentence, and I hope I am right, but JBP, would not be reversed because he is taking great care to not have any reversible issues, and IMO, his previous history and reputation as not havign any cases reversed on appeal should tell these talking heads something. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:07:46 AM
Ok... I think I know what day it is but HLN just confusded me by saying Cindy would take the stand today... I thought there was no court today...isn't today Monday???? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:09:09 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:40:40 AM
Ok... I think I know what day it is but HLN just confusded me by saying Cindy would take the stand today... I thought there was no court today...isn't today Monday???? ::MonkeyEek::


Nevermind.....they just said Tuesday...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: OriginalKat on May 30, 2011, 07:01:42 AM
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kcaftermeltdown.jpg)
kc after the meltdown

(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z406/sillywabbit2/kcface.jpg)

Pure evil

Maybe the last look Caylee saw from her mother.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 07:44:06 AM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut
Geraldo Rivera says prosecution portraying Casey Anthony as a 'slut'
    May 29th, 2011 11:20 pm ET


Continue reading on Examiner.com Geraldo Rivera says prosecution portraying Casey Anthony as a ’slut’ - National Crime | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut#ixzz1Npq7C2CV


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 07:45:51 AM
I am so upset.  I just spent a few hours reading over at another forum and I cannot believe the things that some people who know nothing about this case might believe.

Some believe that George has been molesting her since 8 and had his body parts in her mouth before she went to school.  Some believe that he hid his granddaughter's body.  Some believe that Kronk somehow stole her body and hid her for months until he could profit off of finding her body.  Some believe that George molesting her would allow her to lie/steal/and bed every single man on the planet for at least 2 years prior to Caylee's death and allowed her to continue lying up until the day her mother called police on her, but SOMEHOW SHE IS MIRACULOUSLY NOT LYING NOW, WITHOUT ANY TREATMENT.   

These people do not question where she was for 2 years BEFORE CAYLEE DIED when she said she went to work.   Why she has decomp evidence in her car (they state so she had a dead body in her car, can you prove it was Caylee or that KC put her there?)  Why not one babysitter has come forth?  Why the name Zanny the Nanny came about, which was way before Caylee died.  How she could allow her mother at least to believe she might be alive for months. 

I truly do not get it.  I do not get the benefit of hiding Caylee, so even if the molestation is true (which I believe to be a balled faced lie), why would George hide her?  Some are suggesting George molested Caylee too. 

Do people believe this crap because they find it so hard to believe that somebody would kill such a beautiful little girl, so there has to be something?

I was not sexually abused in any way growing up.  I did have an uncle who was a pig, but we won't go there, and I do not consider myself abused by him.  I was physically beat (also do not consider myself abused) by my parents (mainly mother) as a child, but all it did to me was make me stronger and more devoted to my own children.  Am I stronger than all the people who believe she would just go into her own world because she may have been molested? 

I don't get it.  I don't think I can handle it.  I wish I could go to sleep and wake up after the verdict.  This has got to be the most ludicrous thing I have ever witnessed in all my years of life and the most painful for me.  I watched Scott Peterson's trial and OJ's trial, and I do not remember any of this kind of side crap going on. 

Some are saying there is no evidence of a murder?  What is evidence of a murder?  Do they need a video of her doing it?  The chloroform in the car, what other possible scenario could it be there for?  The death band of either Caylee or KC and KC is alive?  The dogs hitting on decomp.  Just dumping a car.  All of that has nothing to do with a pool drowning or of her father molesting her (again, which I do not believe even for a second). 

I get they say she was afraid of George so that is why she went on with life as normal, but why would George hide his granddaughter?  Would she not even have a pause in her activity when all of her friends asked her where Caylee was?  A brief moment of reflection about her daughter for 20 seconds?  Could somebody who was so seriously molested go have a 2 day love making session mere hours after her own child accidentally drowned? 

Plus, she called mommy begging her to babysit AFTER George supposedly found his granddaughter in the pool. 

I have seen so many cases convicted on circumstantial evidence and I think that circumstantial evidence combined with other evidence is as strong as a video. 

For me, there is no one other than KC that had motive to do this, had benefit from doing this, and there has been no evidence to date that shows anybody but KC had been the last person she was with. 

I cringe to think of her getting acquitted because of innuendos by her stupid defense lawyer and/or people who are unwilling to go from A and get to Z, because not all the alphabets in between have been presented.  I cringe to think she will be found guilty and then somebody will create a Casey Is Innocent page to try and get her case overturned. 

I need Valium, LOL. 

If anything, right now, if George seems like he is hiding something, for me it seems he seems to be hiding more when he speaks to Bozo, because he cannot stand him for what he is saying about him.  Bozo is trying to catch him in a lie, and George knows it.  So what if he lied, does that automatically mean he molested his daughter for 20 years, hid his granddaughter, and then went about his business as usual while the world looked for Caylee? 

I need some cheering up.  Would the state bring a case they felt they could not win, as all the TH's are saying they won't win?  Would they spend all the money they have spent to just fry KC if they had nothing to back it up? 

Phew that was long.  Going to make my beautiful 3 children (who sometimes give me grief but who I would die without) breakfast. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 07:53:20 AM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut
Geraldo Rivera says prosecution portraying Casey Anthony as a 'slut'
    May 29th, 2011 11:20 pm ET


Continue reading on Examiner.com Geraldo Rivera says prosecution portraying Casey Anthony as a ’slut’ - National Crime | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut#ixzz1Npq7C2CV


Thank you! I missed this.... You know what they say about if the shoe fits.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 08:06:08 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/05/casey-anthonys-official-jail-visit-records/
Casey Anthony's Current Official Jail Visitor Records | THE CAYLEE ...
3 hours ago by Express

Official Jail Records
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/80623100/Official-Jail-Records


http://www.bloggernews.net/126632
Casey Anthony - She Should Have Read Instructables.com
Posted on May 29th, 2011
by Simon Barrett in Humor, Op-ed
Read 1,028 times.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 08:08:41 AM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut
Geraldo Rivera says prosecution portraying Casey Anthony as a 'slut'
    May 29th, 2011 11:20 pm ET


Continue reading on Examiner.com Geraldo Rivera says prosecution portraying Casey Anthony as a ’slut’ - National Crime | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut#ixzz1Npq7C2CV


Thank you! I missed this.... You know what they say about if the shoe fits.....
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 08:20:55 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/05/casey-anthonys-official-jail-visit-records/
Casey Anthony's Current Official Jail Visitor Records | THE CAYLEE ...
3 hours ago by Express

Official Jail Records
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/80623100/Official-Jail-Records


http://www.bloggernews.net/126632
Casey Anthony - She Should Have Read Instructables.com
Posted on May 29th, 2011
by Simon Barrett in Humor, Op-ed
Read 1,028 times.





You all probably discussed this before, and I missed it, but on the visit list for KC, a new name appeared (Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, psychologist) and I googled it and found this.  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6577248

Interesting info on new psychologist..
http://fl.findacase.com/research/wfr...0421.FL.htm/qx
Petition for Certiorari Review of Order from the Circuit Court for Seminole County, O. H. Eaton, Jr., Judge.
COBB, J. The petitioner, Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, seeks certiorari review of a trial court order allowing various discovery requests. Her principal argument is based upon the psychotherapist/patient privilege.

In February, 1991, the respondent, Suzanne Groth, filed a two-count complaint charging Dr. Weinstock, a clinical psychologist, with negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress. According to her complaint, Groth sought psychotherapy and marriage counseling from Dr. Weinstock in 1985 and attended over 100 sessions, of which some were joint sessions with her husband, Robert Groth, and with her children. After declaring that the Groths were cured in May, 1986, Dr. Weinstock began an "intensely personal social relationship" with them. Groth later discovered that Dr. Weinstock was having an affair with Robert Groth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 08:22:49 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/05/casey-anthonys-official-jail-visit-records/
Casey Anthony's Current Official Jail Visitor Records | THE CAYLEE ...
3 hours ago by Express

Official Jail Records
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/80623100/Official-Jail-Records


http://www.bloggernews.net/126632
Casey Anthony - She Should Have Read Instructables.com
Posted on May 29th, 2011
by Simon Barrett in Humor, Op-ed
Read 1,028 times.





You all probably discussed this before, and I missed it, but on the visit list for KC, a new name appeared (Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, psychologist) and I googled it and found this.  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6577248

Interesting info on new psychologist..
http://fl.findacase.com/research/wfr...0421.FL.htm/qx
Petition for Certiorari Review of Order from the Circuit Court for Seminole County, O. H. Eaton, Jr., Judge.
COBB, J. The petitioner, Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, seeks certiorari review of a trial court order allowing various discovery requests. Her principal argument is based upon the psychotherapist/patient privilege.

In February, 1991, the respondent, Suzanne Groth, filed a two-count complaint charging Dr. Weinstock, a clinical psychologist, with negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress. According to her complaint, Groth sought psychotherapy and marriage counseling from Dr. Weinstock in 1985 and attended over 100 sessions, of which some were joint sessions with her husband, Robert Groth, and with her children. After declaring that the Groths were cured in May, 1986, Dr. Weinstock began an "intensely personal social relationship" with them. Groth later discovered that Dr. Weinstock was having an affair with Robert Groth.


Does bozo not google these people before he parades them in to see poor KC?  He has got some track record of picking wonderful people.  Guess that is all he can get for free. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 08:34:45 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/05/casey-anthonys-official-jail-visit-records/
Casey Anthony's Current Official Jail Visitor Records | THE CAYLEE ...
3 hours ago by Express

Official Jail Records
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/80623100/Official-Jail-Records


http://www.bloggernews.net/126632
Casey Anthony - She Should Have Read Instructables.com
Posted on May 29th, 2011
by Simon Barrett in Humor, Op-ed
Read 1,028 times.





You all probably discussed this before, and I missed it, but on the visit list for KC, a new name appeared (Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, psychologist) and I googled it and found this.  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6577248

Interesting info on new psychologist..
http://fl.findacase.com/research/wfr...0421.FL.htm/qx
Petition for Certiorari Review of Order from the Circuit Court for Seminole County, O. H. Eaton, Jr., Judge.
COBB, J. The petitioner, Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, seeks certiorari review of a trial court order allowing various discovery requests. Her principal argument is based upon the psychotherapist/patient privilege.

In February, 1991, the respondent, Suzanne Groth, filed a two-count complaint charging Dr. Weinstock, a clinical psychologist, with negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress. According to her complaint, Groth sought psychotherapy and marriage counseling from Dr. Weinstock in 1985 and attended over 100 sessions, of which some were joint sessions with her husband, Robert Groth, and with her children. After declaring that the Groths were cured in May, 1986, Dr. Weinstock began an "intensely personal social relationship" with them. Groth later discovered that Dr. Weinstock was having an affair with Robert Groth.


Does bozo not google these people before he parades them in to see poor KC?  He has got some track record of picking wonderful people.  Guess that is all he can get for free. 

MOO... I don't think most of the more reputable ,honest ones want to be associated with the likes of Bozo...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 30, 2011, 08:49:39 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/05/casey-anthonys-official-jail-visit-records/
Casey Anthony's Current Official Jail Visitor Records | THE CAYLEE ...
3 hours ago by Express

Official Jail Records
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/80623100/Official-Jail-Records


http://www.bloggernews.net/126632
Casey Anthony - She Should Have Read Instructables.com
Posted on May 29th, 2011
by Simon Barrett in Humor, Op-ed
Read 1,028 times.





You all probably discussed this before, and I missed it, but on the visit list for KC, a new name appeared (Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, psychologist) and I googled it and found this.  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6577248

Interesting info on new psychologist..
http://fl.findacase.com/research/wfr...0421.FL.htm/qx
Petition for Certiorari Review of Order from the Circuit Court for Seminole County, O. H. Eaton, Jr., Judge.
COBB, J. The petitioner, Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, seeks certiorari review of a trial court order allowing various discovery requests. Her principal argument is based upon the psychotherapist/patient privilege.

In February, 1991, the respondent, Suzanne Groth, filed a two-count complaint charging Dr. Weinstock, a clinical psychologist, with negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress. According to her complaint, Groth sought psychotherapy and marriage counseling from Dr. Weinstock in 1985 and attended over 100 sessions, of which some were joint sessions with her husband, Robert Groth, and with her children. After declaring that the Groths were cured in May, 1986, Dr. Weinstock began an "intensely personal social relationship" with them. Groth later discovered that Dr. Weinstock was having an affair with Robert Groth.


Does bozo not google these people before he parades them in to see poor KC?  He has got some track record of picking wonderful people.  Guess that is all he can get for free. 

MOO... I don't think most of the more reputable ,honest ones want to be associated with the likes of Bozo...
I agree.  And did you all notice who the presiding judge was?  None other than the Honorable Judge O.H. Eaton, Jr., the Mason Jar's buddy and now legal analyst.  Hmmmm....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 08:52:28 AM
ZooMom - my suggestion.....

Don't go back and read that forum again.  You got away with your brains and common sense this time but next time you might not be so luckly.  Stupid sometimes rubs off.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 08:52:56 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/05/casey-anthonys-official-jail-visit-records/
Casey Anthony's Current Official Jail Visitor Records | THE CAYLEE ...
3 hours ago by Express

Official Jail Records
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/80623100/Official-Jail-Records


http://www.bloggernews.net/126632
Casey Anthony - She Should Have Read Instructables.com
Posted on May 29th, 2011
by Simon Barrett in Humor, Op-ed
Read 1,028 times.





You all probably discussed this before, and I missed it, but on the visit list for KC, a new name appeared (Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, psychologist) and I googled it and found this.  http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6577248

Interesting info on new psychologist..
http://fl.findacase.com/research/wfr...0421.FL.htm/qx
Petition for Certiorari Review of Order from the Circuit Court for Seminole County, O. H. Eaton, Jr., Judge.
COBB, J. The petitioner, Dr. Ronda C. Weinstock, seeks certiorari review of a trial court order allowing various discovery requests. Her principal argument is based upon the psychotherapist/patient privilege.

In February, 1991, the respondent, Suzanne Groth, filed a two-count complaint charging Dr. Weinstock, a clinical psychologist, with negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress. According to her complaint, Groth sought psychotherapy and marriage counseling from Dr. Weinstock in 1985 and attended over 100 sessions, of which some were joint sessions with her husband, Robert Groth, and with her children. After declaring that the Groths were cured in May, 1986, Dr. Weinstock began an "intensely personal social relationship" with them. Groth later discovered that Dr. Weinstock was having an affair with Robert Groth.


Does bozo not google these people before he parades them in to see poor KC?  He has got some track record of picking wonderful people.  Guess that is all he can get for free. 

MOO... I don't think most of the more reputable ,honest ones want to be associated with the likes of Bozo...
I agree.  And did you all notice who the presiding judge was?  None other than the Honorable Judge O.H. Eaton, Jr., the Mason Jar's buddy and now legal analyst.  Hmmmm....


hmmmm.... what a coinkydink...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 30, 2011, 08:52:57 AM
Oh, and Happy Memorial Day, every one!  In memory of my father, (veteran--WW II, Korea, Vietnam, and brother, (veteran--Vietnam,) and all who have died or served in our military...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 08:53:44 AM
ZooMom - my suggestion.....

Don't go back and read that forum again.  You got away with your brains and common sense this time but next time you might not be so luckly.  Stupid sometimes rubs off.  ::MonkeyCool::


You made me almost choke on my coffee...but good one klaas...and oh, so true...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 08:57:34 AM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony)

Defense's sex-abuse claims may force Casey Anthony to testify
May 28, 2011|By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

In its effort to provide an alternate theory on how Caylee Anthony died and explain why her mother never reported the child missing, the defense team may have created a scenario in which Casey Anthony must take the stand.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 09:00:10 AM
ZooMom - my suggestion.....

Don't go back and read that forum again.  You got away with your brains and common sense this time but next time you might not be so luckly.  Stupid sometimes rubs off.  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks Klaas.  I do try to stay away from other sites, but when it gets really late here and all the monkeys have gone to bed (and I should go to bed), it gets hard not to wander on over.  But, I doubt that I could ever be that stupid. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 09:02:58 AM
ZooMom - really I was just kidding.  I read other sites all the time and I'm even a member of several others.  I just don't want whatever they have to rub off on you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:04:04 AM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony)

Defense's sex-abuse claims may force Casey Anthony to testify
May 28, 2011|By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

In its effort to provide an alternate theory on how Caylee Anthony died and explain why her mother never reported the child missing, the defense team may have created a scenario in which Casey Anthony must take the stand.

 ::snipping2::




OOOHHH... I cannot wait to hear this....the prosecution will rip her to shreds with Bozo objecting all over the place.... Judge Perry will surely lose his patience as well...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 09:09:26 AM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony)

Defense's sex-abuse claims may force Casey Anthony to testify
May 28, 2011|By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

In its effort to provide an alternate theory on how Caylee Anthony died and explain why her mother never reported the child missing, the defense team may have created a scenario in which Casey Anthony must take the stand.

 ::snipping2::

I believe she has to testify too unless they have some secret witness they plan to pop in during their case who will say he/she witnessed molestation, but I keep thinking of Mark Geragos.  I was shocked when he presented no case whatsoever and had what 3 people to talk about Scott for the punishment phase?  It was truly laughable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 30, 2011, 09:12:12 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on May 30, 2011, 09:13:15 AM
ZooMom - really I was just kidding.  I read other sites all the time and I'm even a member of several others.  I just don't want whatever they have to rub off on you  ::MonkeyCool::


Maybe just take a shower after slumming...   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 09:14:01 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 30, 2011, 09:14:57 AM


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony)

Defense's sex-abuse claims may force Casey Anthony to testify
May 28, 2011|By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

In its effort to provide an alternate theory on how Caylee Anthony died and explain why her mother never reported the child missing, the defense team may have created a scenario in which Casey Anthony must take the stand.

 ::snipping2::
IF this happens I hope and pray it is Jeff or Linda doing the questioning.  I think KC could trip Mr. George up on his own words.  Jeff or Linda are just too quick on their feet and would ream KC a new one.  Oh, please, oh, please let her be this arrogant.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 30, 2011, 09:17:17 AM
I hope the jurors are having a nice time on their special outing.  I'm sure Mumbles is listening to the tinkling of a glass today while the pros are busy working, lining up witnesses, and double checking everything. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 09:21:18 AM
I hope the jurors are having a nice time on their special outing.  I'm sure Mumbles is listening to the tinkling of a glass today while the pros are busy working, lining up witnesses, and double checking everything. 

Me too, and I hope they get some tin foil hats for the coming weeks.  Would not want their brain waves rattled. 

I am gonna go take a nap and try not to think about this case for a few hours.  See ya'all later. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"


I don't know if it is for real or not....sure would like to see her have that reaction though...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: KittyMom on May 30, 2011, 09:24:57 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:27:21 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol


I doubt she would want Jose to quit paying her any kind of attention.... Casey is an attention whore....she thrives on it ....everything is all about her.... I cannot wait to hear the rest of Cindy's testimony... I am praying she continues on her new found even keel...then I hope Lee comes in and does the same and we see Casey unravel before our eyes...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 09:30:58 AM
I hope the jurors are having a nice time on their special outing.  I'm sure Mumbles is listening to the tinkling of a glass today while the pros are busy working, lining up witnesses, and double checking everything. 

Me too, and I hope they get some tin foil hats for the coming weeks.  Would not want their brain waves rattled. 

I am gonna go take a nap and try not to think about this case for a few hours.  See ya'all later. 

And Boots.
This is like the scott peterson trial, when greta thought scouter was innocent???
I also put casey's call log in the break room.  The 16th starts on page 3.
Jmo....I believe it to be the afternoon or evening when it happened.  This might shed some light on things...Maybe???? ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 09:34:13 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol


I doubt she would want Jose to quit paying her any kind of attention.... Casey is an attention whore....she thrives on it ....everything is all about her.... I cannot wait to hear the rest of Cindy's testimony... I am praying she continues on her new found even keel...then I hope Lee comes in and does the same and we see Casey unravel before our eyes...

Jose has to cross examine Cindy too.
I want to hear from Lee.... ::MonkeyShovel::
Wonder when the jail tape is coming in, with casey yelling.
Might be a real turning point in the trial. ::MonkeyShovel::Jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Jesse on May 30, 2011, 09:40:02 AM
What i dont understand is Cindy had three years of showing Caylees room and showing pictures of her for money and NOW when she is on the stand she suddenly breaks down when she sees Caylees room a room that she sees every day...?? they did say she did not even look at Casey when she got off the stand, but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about, i am waiting for Lee to take the stand to see if they ask him what the secret was that he said he would keep during the memorial and if he admits to feeling her up


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 09:40:08 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

Kitty - that is not only what I heard but the person who put it on Youtube titled it:  Casey says "Make him stop" volume adjusted


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Jesse on May 30, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
last night stupid Whoraldo was saying how she no way will be convicted and how Casey was being controlled by her dad...really?? really? not when she was saying FU to him about the gas cans and not when she was always gone that is ridiculous..he should have to say he vacations with bozo before the show


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:42:25 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

Kitty - that is not only what I heard but the person who put it on Youtube titled it:  Casey says "Make him stop" volume adjusted


I turned up my volume and listened to it with my earphones on and my eyes closed and that is what I heard as well...it did sound like Casey to me...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:43:33 AM
last night stupid Whoraldo was saying how she no way will be convicted and how Casey was being controlled by her dad...really?? really? not when she was saying FU to him about the gas cans and not when she was always gone that is ridiculous..he should have to say he vacations with bozo before the show

hahaha...he should... ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Jesse on May 30, 2011, 09:50:53 AM
so i wonder if Cindys new found emotions are to hang Casey i wonder if she is just fed up now with the whole situation and now knows that Casey did kill Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:00:36 AM

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony)

Defense's sex-abuse claims may force Casey Anthony to testify
May 28, 2011|By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

In its effort to provide an alternate theory on how Caylee Anthony died and explain why her mother never reported the child missing, the defense team may have created a scenario in which Casey Anthony must take the stand.

 ::snipping2::





This makes sense.  The defence must realize this.

If there is no credible backup (evidence/witnesses) to support what appears to be accusations of a desperate defence ... could it be that jury members will be instructed by the judge to disregard Jose Baez's opening statement.  Nevertheless ... I am sure the prosecutor will address any unsubstantiated defence claims in closing statements.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
What i dont understand is Cindy had three years of showing Caylees room and showing pictures of her for money and NOW when she is on the stand she suddenly breaks down when she sees Caylees room a room that she sees every day...?? they did say she did not even look at Casey when she got off the stand, but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about, i am waiting for Lee to take the stand to see if they ask him what the secret was that he said he would keep during the memorial and if he admits to feeling her up

Do You know how many times Cindy cried when showing the pic's?
Jmo, it all sunk in at one time, now knowing casey had something to do with Caylee death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 10:01:04 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

Kitty - that is not only what I heard but the person who put it on Youtube titled it:  Casey says "Make him stop" volume adjusted


I turned up my volume and listened to it with my earphones on and my eyes closed and that is what I heard as well...it did sound like Casey to me...

By the way in case you didn't notice, this is from a hearing back in December 2009.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Jesse on May 30, 2011, 10:07:09 AM
What i dont understand is Cindy had three years of showing Caylees room and showing pictures of her for money and NOW when she is on the stand she suddenly breaks down when she sees Caylees room a room that she sees every day...?? they did say she did not even look at Casey when she got off the stand, but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about, i am waiting for Lee to take the stand to see if they ask him what the secret was that he said he would keep during the memorial and if he admits to feeling her up

Do You know how many times Cindy cried when showing the pic's?
Jmo, it all sunk in at one time, now knowing casey had something to do with Caylee death.

maybe thats it, i just know she gave countless interviews and showed that room and sold pictures for money and didnt blink an eye until she got up on the stand she couldnt stop crying, could of course as you say be alot more than just the picture, the realization that Casey did do it from all she has heard so far


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 10:18:40 AM
This is just a thought.  With all the outside cams and ppl around, wish one of them would of seen casey putting Caylee in the trunk of her car. Even just one time.
Where was Caylee when Cindy/George didn't watch her before 6-08 and wasn't with casey?     ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Jesse on May 30, 2011, 10:18:55 AM
i missed most of Cindys testimony only what HLN showed in their show, why did Casey have a meltdown when or after her mom testified? and were the jurors there to see it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 10:20:24 AM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

Kitty - that is not only what I heard but the person who put it on Youtube titled it:  Casey says "Make him stop" volume adjusted


I turned up my volume and listened to it with my earphones on and my eyes closed and that is what I heard as well...it did sound like Casey to me...

By the way in case you didn't notice, this is from a hearing back in December 2009.

I did see that..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cherjers on May 30, 2011, 10:21:56 AM

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony)

Defense's sex-abuse claims may force Casey Anthony to testify
May 28, 2011|By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

In its effort to provide an alternate theory on how Caylee Anthony died and explain why her mother never reported the child missing, the defense team may have created a scenario in which Casey Anthony must take the stand.

 ::snipping2::





This makes sense.  The defence must realize this.

If there is no credible backup (evidence/witnesses) to support what appears to be accusations of a desperate defence ... could it be that jury members will be instructed by the judge to disregard Jose Baez's opening statement.  Nevertheless ... I am sure the prosecutor will address any unsubstantiated defence claims in closing statements.

Janet

How Caylee died-kc had in in the pool-either left her or whatever-she came back Caylee was unconious kc could not   call 911.  if she did  she loses all power-cindy and george would throw her out--she duct tapes Caylee mouth to finish the job-puts a heart sticker on--sorry Caylee what choice did I have--its always all about casey--lays in in the play house (that is why the dogs hit there--moves her when she has the time)  sorry I dont know how to post -without hitting quote


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 10:23:01 AM
i missed most of Cindys testimony only what HLN showed in their show, why did Casey have a meltdown when or after her mom testified? and were the jurors there to see it

The jury was still in the room, I believe.  Microphones were off:



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:24:53 AM
Are there any updates regarding this morning's hearing?

Thanks

Janet

+++++++

Casey Trial Day 15, Judge To Address State's Motion
Posted: 5:38 am EDT May 27, 2011
Updated: 6:34 am EDT May 27, 2011


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Day 15 of Casey Anthony's murder trial will begin Friday, and so far, the prosecution has brought a parade of Casey's friends and ex-boyfriends to the stand to talk about how she acted during the 31 days after Caylee was last seen.

Attorneys will head to work earlier to begin court at 8:30am, where Chief Judge Belvin Perry will hear a motion by the prosecution that could lead to fewer sidebars and pauses in witness testimony.

Prosecutors are concerned that the defense is asking too many questioned about hearsay evidence, which is what others say Casey told them about her life. Now the state wants that testimony to be heard without the jury first. But the state said the defense’s questions are leading to a flood of objections.They want that problem handled first thing Friday morning.

<snipped>

http://www.wftv.com/news/28044952/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 10:26:18 AM
What i dont understand is Cindy had three years of showing Caylees room and showing pictures of her for money and NOW when she is on the stand she suddenly breaks down when she sees Caylees room a room that she sees every day...?? they did say she did not even look at Casey when she got off the stand, but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about, i am waiting for Lee to take the stand to see if they ask him what the secret was that he said he would keep during the memorial and if he admits to feeling her up

Do You know how many times Cindy cried when showing the pic's?
Jmo, it all sunk in at one time, now knowing casey had something to do with Caylee death.

maybe thats it, i just know she gave countless interviews and showed that room and sold pictures for money and didnt blink an eye until she got up on the stand she couldnt stop crying, could of course as you say be alot more than just the picture, the realization that Casey did do it from all she has heard so far

I posted this earlier but accidently put it in another monkeys quote:

i think George always knew in his heart that Caylee was dead.  I think it was similar to his disbelief that Casey was working but he wasn't allowed to rock the boat with Cindy.  I think Cindy was the one in complete denial and that was why George, in part, behaved as he did.  He wanted to cooperate with the police and did so to the extent that it didn't send Cindy completely over the edge and totally alienate her from him.  I think that Cindy wasn't going to hear anything but that Caylee was alive and that Casey had nothing to do with her death.  I think that put George in an awful position.  I could be totally wrong about that but both of their actions are consistent with that scenario.

I also always thought all this would have made more sense if Casey had been molested by George.  The defense has actually swayed me that is NOT the case.  I also thought the parents actions of almost begging Casey for any contact even after Caylee was found (and therefore certainly dead) was out of guilt for something like a molestation having happened.  Looking back now and NOT factoring in any molestation, I think that Cindy always had protected Casey from George holding her to task.  I think Cindy truly wouldn't accept or allow anyone around her who thought that Casey killed Caylee.  I think that is why Mr. Nejame quit, he always said that he wouldn't do anything to protect Casey and I think Cindy wouldn't do anything but protect Casey.  I believe that when told that Casey knew all along that Caylee was dead and then leveled the accusations against George and LEE (accusing Lee does absolutely nothing to help her defense - even if it did happen) Cindy had absolutely no choice but to accept reality.  Denial is part of the grieving process.  Cindy had been in denial about a lot of other things regarding Casey, so in hindsight it doesn't surprise me this took so long.  Remember when it was said that George knew a lot about a lot of things.  I think that was certainly true and was more readily to admit it to the police.

Anyway, the fact that even Cindy couldn't go along with Casey's lies anymore and the timing of it is really what made me NOT believe that the allegations of George molesting Casey were true.  I think it is easier to think that there is an event or trauma that would explain someone so cold as Casey but it may not be any more than a psychopath put in the perfect home conditions that brought all those negative traits to an awful culmination.  In my mind it is almost like Casey was an open sore that festered in that home.  I hope the jury sees it my way  ::MonkeyHaHa:: and realizes that Casey had almost every advantage a child / young adult growing up could have.  In my mind that makes what she did so much worse.  If she had been working for the two years she said she had been or going to school she could have moved out if she hated her parents that much.  Instead she was lazy.  Plain and simple.   Too lazy to work, too lazy to study, and ultimately too lazy to watch Caylee those few times she had too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 10:28:06 AM
i missed most of Cindys testimony only what HLN showed in their show, why did Casey have a meltdown when or after her mom testified? and were the jurors there to see it

post 1041 and after...give you good updates

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10085.1040


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Jesse on May 30, 2011, 10:29:04 AM
i missed most of Cindys testimony only what HLN showed in their show, why did Casey have a meltdown when or after her mom testified? and were the jurors there to see it

The jury was still in the room, I believe.  Microphones were off:

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thank you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cherjers on May 30, 2011, 10:41:13 AM
What i dont understand is Cindy had three years of showing Caylees room and showing pictures of her for money and NOW when she is on the stand she suddenly breaks down when she sees Caylees room a room that she sees every day...?? they did say she did not even look at Casey when she got off the stand, but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about, i am waiting for Lee to take the stand to see if they ask him what the secret was that he said he would keep during the memorial and if he admits to feeling her up

Do You know how many times Cindy cried when showing the pic's?
Jmo, it all sunk in at one time, now knowing casey had something to do with Caylee death.

maybe thats it, i just know she gave countless interviews and showed that room and sold pictures for money and didnt blink an eye until she got up on the stand she couldnt stop crying, could of course as you say be alot more than just the picture, the realization that Casey did do it from all she has heard so far

I posted this earlier but accidently put it in another monkeys quote:

i think George always knew in his heart that Caylee was dead.  I think it was similar to his disbelief that Casey was working but he wasn't allowed to rock the boat with Cindy.  I think Cindy was the one in complete denial and that was why George, in part, behaved as he did.  He wanted to cooperate with the police and did so to the extent that it didn't send Cindy completely over the edge and totally alienate her from him.  I think that Cindy wasn't going to hear anything but that Caylee was alive and that Casey had nothing to do with her death.  I think that put George in an awful position.  I could be totally wrong about that but both of their actions are consistent with that scenario.

I also always thought all this would have made more sense if Casey had been molested by George.  The defense has actually swayed me that is NOT the case.  I also thought the parents actions of almost begging Casey for any contact even after Caylee was found (and therefore certainly dead) was out of guilt for something like a molestation having happened.  Looking back now and NOT factoring in any molestation, I think that Cindy always had protected Casey from George holding her to task.  I think Cindy truly wouldn't accept or allow anyone around her who thought that Casey killed Caylee.  I think that is why Mr. Nejame quit, he always said that he wouldn't do anything to protect Casey and I think Cindy wouldn't do anything but protect Casey.  I believe that when told that Casey knew all along that Caylee was dead and then leveled the accusations against George and LEE (accusing Lee does absolutely nothing to help her defense - even if it did happen) Cindy had absolutely no choice but to accept reality.  Denial is part of the grieving process.  Cindy had been in denial about a lot of other things regarding Casey, so in hindsight it doesn't surprise me this took so long.  Remember when it was said that George knew a lot about a lot of things.  I think that was certainly true and was more readily to admit it to the police.

Anyway, the fact that even Cindy couldn't go along with Casey's lies anymore and the timing of it is really what made me NOT believe that the allegations of George molesting Casey were true.  I think it is easier to think that there is an event or trauma that would explain someone so cold as Casey but it may not be any more than a psychopath put in the perfect home conditions that brought all those negative traits to an awful culmination.  In my mind it is almost like Casey was an open sore that festered in that home.  I hope the jury sees it my way  ::MonkeyHaHa:: and realizes that Casey had almost every advantage a child / young adult growing up could have.  In my mind that makes what she did so much worse.  If she had been working for the two years she said she had been or going to school she could have moved out if she hated her parents that much.  Instead she was lazy.  Plain and simple.   Too lazy to work, too lazy to study, and ultimately too lazy to watch Caylee those few times she had too.
  great post


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
Are there any updates regarding this morning's hearing?

Thanks

Janet

+++++++

Casey Trial Day 15, Judge To Address State's Motion
Posted: 5:38 am EDT May 27, 2011
Updated: 6:34 am EDT May 27, 2011


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Day 15 of Casey Anthony's murder trial will begin Friday, and so far, the prosecution has brought a parade of Casey's friends and ex-boyfriends to the stand to talk about how she acted during the 31 days after Caylee was last seen.

Attorneys will head to work earlier to begin court at 8:30am, where Chief Judge Belvin Perry will hear a motion by the prosecution that could lead to fewer sidebars and pauses in witness testimony.

Prosecutors are concerned that the defense is asking too many questioned about hearsay evidence, which is what others say Casey told them about her life. Now the state wants that testimony to be heard without the jury first. But the state said the defense’s questions are leading to a flood of objections.They want that problem handled first thing Friday morning.

<snipped>

http://www.wftv.com/news/28044952/detail.html



No hearing today, will be Tuesday (tomorrow) morning at 8:30am and Lippman will be heard first.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:46:48 AM
Thanks Klaas.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 10:48:32 AM
Thanks Cherjers!!  I thought really hard about it  ::MonkeyHaHa::.  I was worried nobody would read it cause it ended up being so long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 11:00:10 AM
Watching George's testimony about the car being picked up from the tow yard.  I am SOOO glad that Casey wasn't smart enough to leave the car if a more deserted area.  Had the car been stolen, wow, that would really have complicated things. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cherjers on May 30, 2011, 11:01:48 AM
Thanks Cherjers!!  I thought really hard about it  ::MonkeyHaHa::.  I was worried nobody would read it cause it ended up being so long.
sometime its takes a long post to get it all out--have a great day


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: stayhomemommy on May 30, 2011, 11:03:09 AM
Good morning, and Happy Memorial Day!

I have a crazy question. Is it at all possible Lee did try to molest KC and that is what he got immunity for and that is what he will testify to? I hope not, but it has crossed my mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: RavenJLS on May 30, 2011, 11:03:14 AM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 11:05:20 AM
Jmo...casey would do everything/anything to get out of jail for good.
Throw anyone under the bus.
How many of her boyfriends talked to her after they testified at break time?
How many of her boyfriends kept in touch with her during that last almost 3 years.
Jmo, bet they are afraid casey will throw them under the bus if need be.
 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 11:09:50 AM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

I think everyone will have no doubts about how ridiculous the defense is as they keep talking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: seemeatthebeach on May 30, 2011, 11:11:12 AM
geraldo is on talking about the case.

I would swallow razor blades before I'd watch him...........ugh!! :smt097 :smt093 :smt078

You & me both SunnyTX!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 11:11:26 AM
Thanks Cherjers!!  I thought really hard about it  ::MonkeyHaHa::.  I was worried nobody would read it cause it ended up being so long.

Goodmorning, Cheeky!!

"I think it is easier to think that there is an event or trauma that would explain someone so cold as Casey...."

You are so right! 





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cherjers on May 30, 2011, 11:14:38 AM
Jmo...casey would do everything/anything to get out of jail for good.
Throw anyone under the bus.
How many of her boyfriends talked to her after they testified at break time?
How many of her boyfriends kept in touch with her during that last almost 3 years.
Jmo, bet they are afraid casey will throw them under the bus if need be.
 ::MonkeyShovel::

  I hope they show the jail housr tape  when she tells Lee dont trust JG--that would show what a scum bag she is -because she knew Caylee was dead--whats not to trust jessie-just will go to show-she tried to pin this on anyone she could-now its george-cant wait for her to be found guilty-then ask fo a new trial because bozo sexualy abuse her --when she spent all those days in hiis office ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
Jmo...casey would do everything/anything to get out of jail for good.
Throw anyone under the bus.
How many of her boyfriends talked to her after they testified at break time?
How many of her boyfriends kept in touch with her during that last almost 3 years.
Jmo, bet they are afraid casey will throw them under the bus if need be.
 ::MonkeyShovel::

  I hope they show the jail housr tape  when she tells Lee dont trust JG--that would show what a scum bag she is -because she knew Caylee was dead--whats not to trust jessie-just will go to show-she tried to pin this on anyone she could-now its george-cant wait for her to be found guilty-then ask fo a new trial because bozo sexualy abuse her --when she spent all those days in hiis office ::MonkeyTongue::

YES! didn't she say that when her family was begging for "clues" about Zanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 11:20:43 AM
 http://www.livestream.com/hlncom  (http://www.livestream.com/hlncom)

HLN states they will be playing the opening statements in it's entirety begining at 12pE.

I located this link through google to watch on-line.  (Don't know if it will work!!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/967029191001/who-is-george-anthony/?playlist_id=87485
Featured Videos
Who Is George Anthony?
May 30, 2011- 2:43 - Craig Rivera investigates Casey's father



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cherjers on May 30, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
Jmo...casey would do everything/anything to get out of jail for good.
Throw anyone under the bus.
How many of her boyfriends talked to her after they testified at break time?
How many of her boyfriends kept in touch with her during that last almost 3 years.
Jmo, bet they are afraid casey will throw them under the bus if need be.
 ::MonkeyShovel::

  I hope they show the jail housr tape  when she tells Lee dont trust JG--that would show what a scum bag she is -because she knew Caylee was dead--whats not to trust jessie-just will go to show-she tried to pin this on anyone she could-now its george-cant wait for her to be found guilty-then ask fo a new trial because bozo sexualy abuse her --when she spent all those days in hiis office ::MonkeyTongue::

YES! didn't she say that when her family was begging for "clues" about Zanny.
she told Lee when he had his little book with him---writting down all the people he should talk to ---she said dont go to JG  I dont trust him--I think it was on Lee first or second visit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 11:36:18 AM
wait a minute if casey took the teddy bear because she hated that cindy found comfort in it!
so this had to have been during one of the times casey was in jail right? so if there was a plumbing problem that casey mentioned to someone!
does that mean that possibly casey shredded the teddy bear and tried to flush it or something! therefore the plumbing problem?

The plumbing emergency was the late night of 6/30 - early morning hours of 7/1.

Cindy is talking about a time period of over the 4th of July.

Therefore, IMO, the bear would not be what caused the plumbing problem.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 30, 2011, 11:41:46 AM
I need help with my time line

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.new#new


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....

I know the Winnie the Pooh blanket was found at the remains site..but I never read where it was wrapped around her..her bones were scattered in a very large area...is there a link where I could read more about the blanket? 

I don't picture Casey wrapping her in the blanket as a comfort gesture..after she shot her up with chloroform, duct taped her mouth and nose tightly embedding it in her hair, then trash bags..fianlly a laundry hamper..it would really shock me if the blanket was wrapped around her..I think that was something left in the car she pitched out.

The heart sticker was the final kiss off if you will..she loved her more in death then in life.  It wasn't a loving gesture in my opinion it was just the opposite.

Like everything else, Gypsy, I'm speculating about the use of blanket.

I'm assuming the blanket located with or around the remains is the one we've seen pictured on Caylee's bed- which sorta looks like a toddler bed comforter, which was part of a set, and was normally kept on Caylee's bed. 

What would be the purpose of removing the blanket off the bed?

In an emergency situation?  To provide warmth? To comfort?  To wrap up?


In addition to the two black garbage bags with yellow handles, for concealing,

In addition to the canvas type laundry bag with handles, for transporting,

In addition to the Henkel brand duct tape, used for?

I don't know where, on SM, but it was discussed there were remnants of a picture frame located- allegedly at the remains site, one of which had a red heart/sticker on the matting at one time. 

One of our monkeys mentioned it- stated the actual photo with the sticker was viewed on the NG show with the sticker.

Anyone remember discussing this please clarify, TIA.


The comforter on Caylee's bed is one of the pieces of her linens.

A blanket was a separate piece, sort of like what we used to call "receiving" blankets; similar to that.

The A's had Greta Van Susteren in their home for an interview at one time and during that interview, Cindy took Greta to Caylee's room.  Cindy said:  there used to be a blanket, too, but it's missing.  This comment was shortly after it became public that Caylee was missing; long before the remains were found and the blanket was found with the remains.

The instant the blanket was discovered, LE quickly confiscated entrance by anyone into the A's home (the A's were in California for a Larry King show and were flying back the morning the remains were found).  Mallory was found at the home; she was there to feed and walk the A's dogs.  LE confiscated the bed linens; we could see them walking out with the comforter in a bag; and IIRC, it was determined that the "blanket" came from the same lot as the rest of the bed linens.

The finding of the blanket gave me huge goosebumps at the time and still does, everytime I see that picture.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/967029191001/who-is-george-anthony/?playlist_id=87485
Featured Videos
Who Is George Anthony?
May 30, 2011- 2:43 - Craig Rivera investigates Casey's father



I hope that the stragedy of the defence does not create a "reasonable doubt" in jury deliberations.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 11:44:33 AM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....

I know the Winnie the Pooh blanket was found at the remains site..but I never read where it was wrapped around her..her bones were scattered in a very large area...is there a link where I could read more about the blanket? 

I don't picture Casey wrapping her in the blanket as a comfort gesture..after she shot her up with chloroform, duct taped her mouth and nose tightly embedding it in her hair, then trash bags..fianlly a laundry hamper..it would really shock me if the blanket was wrapped around her..I think that was something left in the car she pitched out.

The heart sticker was the final kiss off if you will..she loved her more in death then in life.  It wasn't a loving gesture in my opinion it was just the opposite.

Like everything else, Gypsy, I'm speculating about the use of blanket.

I'm assuming the blanket located with or around the remains is the one we've seen pictured on Caylee's bed- which sorta looks like a toddler bed comforter, which was part of a set, and was normally kept on Caylee's bed. 

What would be the purpose of removing the blanket off the bed?

In an emergency situation?  To provide warmth? To comfort?  To wrap up?


In addition to the two black garbage bags with yellow handles, for concealing,

In addition to the canvas type laundry bag with handles, for transporting,

In addition to the Henkel brand duct tape, used for?

I don't know where, on SM, but it was discussed there were remnants of a picture frame located- allegedly at the remains site, one of which had a red heart/sticker on the matting at one time. 

One of our monkeys mentioned it- stated the actual photo with the sticker was viewed on the NG show with the sticker.

Anyone remember discussing this please clarify, TIA.

There was a peic of a picture frame with the hearst sticker..Casey put heart stickers or hear symbols even on some of Caylee's photobucket pics.  The heart was Casey's symbol.

But the lab tech also found the impression from the sticky side of a heart sticker on the duct tape, that was the same type of heart found on the photo frame and on sheets of unused stickers in the A home.  Certainly George wasn't putting heart stickers everywhere..that was a Casey thing....and smacks of immaturity.  Casey was 22 years old and putting heart stickers around like a 12 year old love sick preteen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 11:46:54 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/967029191001/who-is-george-anthony/?playlist_id=87485
Featured Videos
Who Is George Anthony?
May 30, 2011- 2:43 - Craig Rivera investigates Casey's father



TY for the link.  I watched the very beginning and shut it down the instant Craig Rivera said that: the defense "bombards" George with "evidence".    That's not so!  The defense is a debaucle.  They have NO evidence to bombard anyone with, at least at this point.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tevye on May 30, 2011, 11:51:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOxOMRHXls&feature=youtu.be
The computer store owner dude, saw Casey and Caylee together the day after Father's day at Walmart. So apparently the state has a witness that can cast doubt on any story that Caylee drowned, at least on that morning.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1198&start=700
Casey refused to give her DNA, Sherriff's office had to get a warrant to go get it from her. (pg. 49)
posted by Julia
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:43 pm


I tried to add the link but after trying to preview here! the link didnt work ! however it is working at the hinky link above.

very interesting information.

IIRC, the depo of the computer store guy was very interesting because he talked about how KC was too busy with her phone to realize that Caylee was struggling to open the heavy door on her own.  I remember thinking that it is a wonder Caylee wasn't ran over in a parking lot somewhere if KC didn't bother to at least hold her by the hand.

What "IF" Casey did hit Caylee with her car ?? There are so many reports in the news all over parents somehow forgetting their children in the car and they have died ?? Does anyone think this may even be remotely plausible ?? I know crazy thinking...
In case no one has replied (ya, I'm just a little behind!) the autopsy would have shown trauma to the bones indicative of that kind of accident.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 11:53:35 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/967029191001/who-is-george-anthony/?playlist_id=87485
Featured Videos
Who Is George Anthony?
May 30, 2011- 2:43 - Craig Rivera investigates Casey's father



TY for the link.  I watched the very beginning and shut it down the instant Craig Rivera said that: the defense "bombards" George with "evidence".    That's not so!  The defense is a debaucle.  They have NO evidence to bombard anyone with, at least at this point.


I agree.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 11:57:39 AM
snip ::snipping2::
What would be the purpose of removing the blanket off the bed?

Just a thought, maybe Cayle died in her bed on the blanket.
That was my 1st thought way back in 08.
jmo..Casey/Caylee went back into the house after George had gone to work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 12:00:09 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/965575985001/casey-anthonys-relationship-with-parents/?playlist_id=87937
Casey Anthony's Relationship With Parents
May 29, 2011- 7:16 -
Gloria Allred and author Diane Fanning weigh in


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 30, 2011, 12:06:38 PM
I dont think KC was a good mother. I think she is a pretender..a bullchit artist
When people are looking she knew how to act and God only knows what she did to her when people werent looking, like knock her out to party

That is what I see. She made over Caylee when it served her purpose, but I would bet that child lived in hell when no one but them were around. Some of Caylee's pictures have a very haunting look about them that you see in abused children. From just the temper tantrums we have seen just imagine what that child had to endure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 30, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....

I know the Winnie the Pooh blanket was found at the remains site..but I never read where it was wrapped around her..her bones were scattered in a very large area...is there a link where I could read more about the blanket? 

I don't picture Casey wrapping her in the blanket as a comfort gesture..after she shot her up with chloroform, duct taped her mouth and nose tightly embedding it in her hair, then trash bags..fianlly a laundry hamper..it would really shock me if the blanket was wrapped around her..I think that was something left in the car she pitched out.

The heart sticker was the final kiss off if you will..she loved her more in death then in life.  It wasn't a loving gesture in my opinion it was just the opposite.

Like everything else, Gypsy, I'm speculating about the use of blanket.

I'm assuming the blanket located with or around the remains is the one we've seen pictured on Caylee's bed- which sorta looks like a toddler bed comforter, which was part of a set, and was normally kept on Caylee's bed. 

What would be the purpose of removing the blanket off the bed?

In an emergency situation?  To provide warmth? To comfort?  To wrap up?


In addition to the two black garbage bags with yellow handles, for concealing,

In addition to the canvas type laundry bag with handles, for transporting,

In addition to the Henkel brand duct tape, used for?

I don't know where, on SM, but it was discussed there were remnants of a picture frame located- allegedly at the remains site, one of which had a red heart/sticker on the matting at one time. 

One of our monkeys mentioned it- stated the actual photo with the sticker was viewed on the NG show with the sticker.

Anyone remember discussing this please clarify, TIA.

Monkey King - it was me that brought up the framed pic of Caylee with the heart sticker on the matte. I'll have to dig for it, I'm not even sure what day I posted about it, but it was within the last 2 weeks. One thing that has always weighed heavy on my mind is that I believe after Casey dumped Caylee in the swamp, she returned to the area on several occasions to leave "gifts" so to speak. The criminal always returns to the scene of the crime. I even wonder if that's what happened to Caylee's "teddy bear."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: karenmamo on May 30, 2011, 12:11:34 PM
What i dont understand is Cindy had three years of showing Caylees room and showing pictures of her for money and NOW when she is on the stand she suddenly breaks down when she sees Caylees room a room that she sees every day...?? they did say she did not even look at Casey when she got off the stand, but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about, i am waiting for Lee to take the stand to see if they ask him what the secret was that he said he would keep during the memorial and if he admits to feeling her up
Jesse, you wrote: ... but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about...
I showed that clip to hubby just now and realized again that Casey showed real emotion.  Why was she upset?  Cindy was not asked about the abuse. Cindy was not denying the abuse.  Why is everyone so convinced that Casey thought he mother was not supporting the OS? Hugging George?  Was it because Casey thought Cindy would believe the abuse happened?  And the words about three years? I am just lost with all that emotion from Casey.  We have all seen her fake emotions for too long.  This was real. Casey was devastated. I think I need to step away...far away.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 12:12:02 PM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/43215036#43215036
News
Will text messages damage Casey's defense?



http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-did-her-defense-team-go-too-far.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
Casey Anthony: Did her defense team go too far?
ABC, Caylee and Casey Anthony, Fox News Channel, George and Cindy Anthony, Good Morning America, Jose Baez, NBC, Nancy Grace, Today, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on May, 30 2011 11:16 AM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:14:21 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:16:36 PM
What i dont understand is Cindy had three years of showing Caylees room and showing pictures of her for money and NOW when she is on the stand she suddenly breaks down when she sees Caylees room a room that she sees every day...?? they did say she did not even look at Casey when she got off the stand, but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about, i am waiting for Lee to take the stand to see if they ask him what the secret was that he said he would keep during the memorial and if he admits to feeling her up
Jesse, you wrote: ... but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about...
I showed that clip to hubby just now and realized again that Casey showed real emotion.  Why was she upset?  Cindy was not asked about the abuse. Cindy was not denying the abuse.  Why is everyone so convinced that Casey thought he mother was not supporting the OS? Hugging George?  Was it because Casey thought Cindy would believe the abuse happened?  And the words about three years? I am just lost with all that emotion from Casey.  We have all seen her fake emotions for too long.  This was real. Casey was devastated. I think I need to step away...far away.

She was devastated because her mother was not riding her bus any more.  IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 12:17:12 PM
What i dont understand is Cindy had three years of showing Caylees room and showing pictures of her for money and NOW when she is on the stand she suddenly breaks down when she sees Caylees room a room that she sees every day...?? they did say she did not even look at Casey when she got off the stand, but Casey was having a meltdown not sure what about, i am waiting for Lee to take the stand to see if they ask him what the secret was that he said he would keep during the memorial and if he admits to feeling her up

Do You know how many times Cindy cried when showing the pic's?
Jmo, it all sunk in at one time, now knowing casey had something to do with Caylee death.

maybe thats it, i just know she gave countless interviews and showed that room and sold pictures for money and didnt blink an eye until she got up on the stand she couldnt stop crying, could of course as you say be alot more than just the picture, the realization that Casey did do it from all she has heard so far

I posted this earlier but accidently put it in another monkeys quote:

i think George always knew in his heart that Caylee was dead.  I think it was similar to his disbelief that Casey was working but he wasn't allowed to rock the boat with Cindy.  I think Cindy was the one in complete denial and that was why George, in part, behaved as he did.  He wanted to cooperate with the police and did so to the extent that it didn't send Cindy completely over the edge and totally alienate her from him.  I think that Cindy wasn't going to hear anything but that Caylee was alive and that Casey had nothing to do with her death.  I think that put George in an awful position.  I could be totally wrong about that but both of their actions are consistent with that scenario.

I also always thought all this would have made more sense if Casey had been molested by George.  The defense has actually swayed me that is NOT the case.  I also thought the parents actions of almost begging Casey for any contact even after Caylee was found (and therefore certainly dead) was out of guilt for something like a molestation having happened.  Looking back now and NOT factoring in any molestation, I think that Cindy always had protected Casey from George holding her to task.  I think Cindy truly wouldn't accept or allow anyone around her who thought that Casey killed Caylee.  I think that is why Mr. Nejame quit, he always said that he wouldn't do anything to protect Casey and I think Cindy wouldn't do anything but protect Casey.  I believe that when told that Casey knew all along that Caylee was dead and then leveled the accusations against George and LEE (accusing Lee does absolutely nothing to help her defense - even if it did happen) Cindy had absolutely no choice but to accept reality.  Denial is part of the grieving process.  Cindy had been in denial about a lot of other things regarding Casey, so in hindsight it doesn't surprise me this took so long.  Remember when it was said that George knew a lot about a lot of things.  I think that was certainly true and was more readily to admit it to the police.

Anyway, the fact that even Cindy couldn't go along with Casey's lies anymore and the timing of it is really what made me NOT believe that the allegations of George molesting Casey were true.  I think it is easier to think that there is an event or trauma that would explain someone so cold as Casey but it may not be any more than a psychopath put in the perfect home conditions that brought all those negative traits to an awful culmination.  In my mind it is almost like Casey was an open sore that festered in that home.  I hope the jury sees it my way  ::MonkeyHaHa:: and realizes that Casey had almost every advantage a child / young adult growing up could have.  In my mind that makes what she did so much worse.  If she had been working for the two years she said she had been or going to school she could have moved out if she hated her parents that much.  Instead she was lazy.  Plain and simple.   Too lazy to work, too lazy to study, and ultimately too lazy to watch Caylee those few times she had too.

Cheekymonkey - good analogy - BBM - it is almost like Casey was an open sore that festered in that home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:21:57 PM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

Thanks Raven.  This is driving me absolutely bat crazy and it is annoying me that this jury is so blind to all of this gunk.

I don't know why the state is not pounding home certain facts, other than Mr. George did most of the friend's testimony, and he is very laid back and as I have said before, I feel, just doing his job, but is really not that all interested in the results, other than what an acquittal would like like under his command.  I am hoping, where it really counts, that Linda or Jeff will do those witnesses. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 30, 2011, 12:30:47 PM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....

I know the Winnie the Pooh blanket was found at the remains site..but I never read where it was wrapped around her..her bones were scattered in a very large area...is there a link where I could read more about the blanket? 

I don't picture Casey wrapping her in the blanket as a comfort gesture..after she shot her up with chloroform, duct taped her mouth and nose tightly embedding it in her hair, then trash bags..fianlly a laundry hamper..it would really shock me if the blanket was wrapped around her..I think that was something left in the car she pitched out.

The heart sticker was the final kiss off if you will..she loved her more in death then in life.  It wasn't a loving gesture in my opinion it was just the opposite.

Like everything else, Gypsy, I'm speculating about the use of blanket.

I'm assuming the blanket located with or around the remains is the one we've seen pictured on Caylee's bed- which sorta looks like a toddler bed comforter, which was part of a set, and was normally kept on Caylee's bed. 

What would be the purpose of removing the blanket off the bed?

In an emergency situation?  To provide warmth? To comfort?  To wrap up?


In addition to the two black garbage bags with yellow handles, for concealing,

In addition to the canvas type laundry bag with handles, for transporting,

In addition to the Henkel brand duct tape, used for?

I don't know where, on SM, but it was discussed there were remnants of a picture frame located- allegedly at the remains site, one of which had a red heart/sticker on the matting at one time. 

One of our monkeys mentioned it- stated the actual photo with the sticker was viewed on the NG show with the sticker.

Anyone remember discussing this please clarify, TIA.

Monkey King - it was me that brought up the framed pic of Caylee with the heart sticker on the matte. I'll have to dig for it, I'm not even sure what day I posted about it, but it was within the last 2 weeks. One thing that has always weighed heavy on my mind is that I believe after Casey dumped Caylee in the swamp, she returned to the area on several occasions to leave "gifts" so to speak. The criminal always returns to the scene of the crime. I even wonder if that's what happened to Caylee's "teddy bear."

Found it... the previous discussion regarding the picture....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9919.msg1353526#msg1353526


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 12:30:57 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.

I believe the pings were at the A's house until around 4:30 p.m. that day.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 12:32:29 PM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

Thanks Raven.  This is driving me absolutely bat crazy and it is annoying me that this jury is so blind to all of this gunk.

I don't know why the state is not pounding home certain facts, other than Mr. George did most of the friend's testimony, and he is very laid back and as I have said before, I feel, just doing his job, but is really not that all interested in the results, other than what an acquittal would like like under his command.  I am hoping, where it really counts, that Linda or Jeff will do those witnesses. 

They will....this is a long trial....more to come...it will be put together layer-by-layer, which will be devastating when it's all pointed out during closing arguments.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 12:42:21 PM
Listening again to Linda's opening statement - I pick up on so much more (because I knew so much about the case, Linda's opening confirmed what we'd learned over the years) now, going back and listening, as it's really pointing out that Linda is following the outline of her opening statement, with the evidence she's producing in court. 

I just love the way KC used her phone ALL the time and what a great record it points out for where she is at any given time.
In Tampa....phfttt!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 12:47:43 PM
I was trying to find stats on Jeff Ashton and Linda, like how many cases they have won/lost?  I can't find any. Anybody know where I may look?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 12:58:25 PM
Not stats.... but a good article about some of Jeff Ashton's work...

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/07/nyregion/dna-fingerprinting-tests-becoming-a-factor-in-courts.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 01:04:43 PM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....

I know the Winnie the Pooh blanket was found at the remains site..but I never read where it was wrapped around her..her bones were scattered in a very large area...is there a link where I could read more about the blanket? 

I don't picture Casey wrapping her in the blanket as a comfort gesture..after she shot her up with chloroform, duct taped her mouth and nose tightly embedding it in her hair, then trash bags..fianlly a laundry hamper..it would really shock me if the blanket was wrapped around her..I think that was something left in the car she pitched out.

The heart sticker was the final kiss off if you will..she loved her more in death then in life.  It wasn't a loving gesture in my opinion it was just the opposite.

Like everything else, Gypsy, I'm speculating about the use of blanket.

I'm assuming the blanket located with or around the remains is the one we've seen pictured on Caylee's bed- which sorta looks like a toddler bed comforter, which was part of a set, and was normally kept on Caylee's bed. 

What would be the purpose of removing the blanket off the bed?

In an emergency situation?  To provide warmth? To comfort?  To wrap up?


In addition to the two black garbage bags with yellow handles, for concealing,

In addition to the canvas type laundry bag with handles, for transporting,

In addition to the Henkel brand duct tape, used for?

I don't know where, on SM, but it was discussed there were remnants of a picture frame located- allegedly at the remains site, one of which had a red heart/sticker on the matting at one time. 

One of our monkeys mentioned it- stated the actual photo with the sticker was viewed on the NG show with the sticker.

Anyone remember discussing this please clarify, TIA.

Monkey King - it was me that brought up the framed pic of Caylee with the heart sticker on the matte. I'll have to dig for it, I'm not even sure what day I posted about it, but it was within the last 2 weeks. One thing that has always weighed heavy on my mind is that I believe after Casey dumped Caylee in the swamp, she returned to the area on several occasions to leave "gifts" so to speak. The criminal always returns to the scene of the crime. I even wonder if that's what happened to Caylee's "teddy bear."

Found it... the previous discussion regarding the picture....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9919.msg1353526#msg1353526

That's it!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Now we need to locate the evidence picture of the frame section and try and find the pic from NG.

It is very possible that Casey left some things at the site.

Nothing would really surprise me anymore, you?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 01:06:41 PM
Another article about Jeff Ashton....
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/27347743/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: akmom on May 30, 2011, 01:06:45 PM
HHHmmmmm, I just had a thought that I've never had before(and I think I've thought of everything in this case several times over).  I am wondering if there could be chloroform on the blanket??????????  Could traces of it possibly be on it, or would it have all evaporated????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 01:12:03 PM
HHHmmmmm, I just had a thought that I've never had before(and I think I've thought of everything in this case several times over).  I am wondering if there could be chloroform on the blanket??????????  Could traces of it possibly be on it, or would it have all evaporated????????????

I don't know, but I think if there had been chloroform on the blanket, we would have seen that in a document dump, and I do not remember seeing anything like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 01:12:27 PM
Another article about Jeff Ashton....
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/27347743/detail.html

Wow, how young he is here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 01:13:48 PM
HHHmmmmm, I just had a thought that I've never had before(and I think I've thought of everything in this case several times over).  I am wondering if there could be chloroform on the blanket??????????  Could traces of it possibly be on it, or would it have all evaporated????????????


..................




Eco-USA: Toxics: Chemicals: Chloroform
Chloroform

Disclaimer

Introduction

Chloroform is also known as trichloromethane, methane chloride, or methyltrichloride. It is a colorless liquid with a pleasant, non-irritating odor and slightly sweet taste. Most of the chloroform found in the environment comes from industry. It will only burn when it reaches very high temperatures. Chloroform was one of the first inhaled anesthetics to be used during surgery, but it is not used for anesthesia today. Nearly all the chloroform made in the United States today is used to make other chemicals, but some is sold or traded to other countries. We also import chloroform.

Chloroform enters the environment from chemical companies, paper mills, waste water from sewage treatment plants, and drinking water that contains chlorine. Chloroform can enter the air directly from factories that make or use it, and by evaporating from water and soil that contain it. It can enter water and soil when waste water that contains chlorine is released into water or soil. It may enter water and soil from spills and by leaks from storage and waste sites. In addition to its industrial production and use, small amounts of chloroform are formed as an unwanted product during the process of adding chlorine to water. Chlorine is added to most drinking water and many waste waters to destroy bacteria. There are many ways for chloroform to enter the environment, so small amounts of it are likely to be found almost everywhere.

Fate & Transport

Chloroform evaporates very quickly when exposed to air. Chloroform also dissolves easily in water, but does not stick to the soil very well. This means that it can travel down through soil to ground water where it can enter a water supply. Chloroform lasts for a long time in both the air and in the ground water. Most chloroform in the air eventually breaks down, but this process is slow. The breakdown products in air include phosgene, which is more toxi than chloroform, and hydrogen chloride, which is also toxic. Some chloroform may break down in soil. Chloroform does not appear to build up in great amounts in plants and animals, but we find some small amounts of chloroform in foods.


http://www.eco-usa.net/toxics/chemicals/chloroform.shtml


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 01:15:04 PM
Another article about Jeff Ashton....
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/27347743/detail.html

Wow, how young he is here.

Ashton gained the world's first DNA conviction of a rapist more than 20 years ago.

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/27347743/detail.html#ixzz1NrBOXkcm


Wow, this is amazing.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: akmom on May 30, 2011, 01:16:05 PM
HHHmmmmm, I just had a thought that I've never had before(and I think I've thought of everything in this case several times over).  I am wondering if there could be chloroform on the blanket??????????  Could traces of it possibly be on it, or would it have all evaporated????????????

I don't know, but I think if there had been chloroform on the blanket, we would have seen that in a document dump, and I do not remember seeing anything like that.

Well, I d o think a certain amount of stuff is protected and I think is called"work product" and does not have to be divulged completely.  Of course we also have the problem that the blanket was under water, but I don't know anything about whether that would completely wash all evidence out of the blanket or whether there could be chemical traces left after that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 30, 2011, 01:16:15 PM
 ::HelloKitty:: Monkeys!

I'm trying to catch up from last night and I saw the comment about the computer store owner dude seeing Casey and Caylee at Walmart, how Caylee struggled with the Door.   The only problem with that story is his description of where and what type of door it was, is wrong for that particular store. Marinade Dave went there, video taped it and nothing matches up with what this computer store dude said.  Here's his article with videos.  http://marinadedave.com/journal/tag/sutton-place-apartments

A long time ago, LP had a site to discuss this case, his original one.  Either him or Rob stated that the pavers did not come from the Anthony's home, they were only used for designating where Caylee was. Not sure if true tho.  I also don't think that area was flooded yet when Casey dumped Caylee. TS Faye came through around August 18th, 19th.  TES did not come to search for Caylee until Aug. 30th.  So no need to weight Caylee's body/bags down, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 30, 2011, 01:21:10 PM
Happy Memorial Day Monkeys!  ::justice2NJ::

I really think KC expected Cindy to back her up. After George's affairs, laziness, money issues, she figured mommy would dump him if she made her allegations. Thats where the personality disorder kicks in, borderlines try to divide and conquer..FOOLED again!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 01:21:29 PM
Another article about Jeff Ashton....
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/27347743/detail.html

Wow, how young he is here.

Ashton gained the world's first DNA conviction of a rapist more than 20 years ago.

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/27347743/detail.html#ixzz1NrBOXkcm


Wow, this is amazing.  


Yep....He definitely is no stranger to using "junk science" as Jose calls it....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: akmom on May 30, 2011, 01:21:49 PM
HHHmmmmm, I just had a thought that I've never had before(and I think I've thought of everything in this case several times over).  I am wondering if there could be chloroform on the blanket??????????  Could traces of it possibly be on it, or would it have all evaporated????????????


..................




Eco-USA: Toxics: Chemicals: Chloroform
Chloroform

Disclaimer

Introduction

Chloroform is also known as trichloromethane, methane chloride, or methyltrichloride. It is a colorless liquid with a pleasant, non-irritating odor and slightly sweet taste. Most of the chloroform found in the environment comes from industry. It will only burn when it reaches very high temperatures. Chloroform was one of the first inhaled anesthetics to be used during surgery, but it is not used for anesthesia today. Nearly all the chloroform made in the United States today is used to make other chemicals, but some is sold or traded to other countries. We also import chloroform.

Chloroform enters the environment from chemical companies, paper mills, waste water from sewage treatment plants, and drinking water that contains chlorine. Chloroform can enter the air directly from factories that make or use it, and by evaporating from water and soil that contain it. It can enter water and soil when waste water that contains chlorine is released into water or soil. It may enter water and soil from spills and by leaks from storage and waste sites. In addition to its industrial production and use, small amounts of chloroform are formed as an unwanted product during the process of adding chlorine to water. Chlorine is added to most drinking water and many waste waters to destroy bacteria. There are many ways for chloroform to enter the environment, so small amounts of it are likely to be found almost everywhere.

Fate & Transport

Chloroform evaporates very quickly when exposed to air. Chloroform also dissolves easily in water, but does not stick to the soil very well. This means that it can travel down through soil to ground water where it can enter a water supply. Chloroform lasts for a long time in both the air and in the ground water. Most chloroform in the air eventually breaks down, but this process is slow. The breakdown products in air include phosgene, which is more toxi than chloroform, and hydrogen chloride, which is also toxic. Some chloroform may break down in soil. Chloroform does not appear to build up in great amounts in plants and animals, but we find some small amounts of chloroform in foods.


http://www.eco-usa.net/toxics/chemicals/chloroform.shtml

Thanks Pharlap


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: akmom on May 30, 2011, 01:25:00 PM
::HelloKitty:: Monkeys!

I'm trying to catch up from last night and I saw the comment about the computer store owner dude seeing Casey and Caylee at Walmart, how Caylee struggled with the Door.   The only problem with that story is his description of where and what type of door it was, is wrong for that particular store. Marinade Dave went there, video taped it and nothing matches up with what this computer store dude said.  Here's his article with videos.  http://marinadedave.com/journal/tag/sutton-place-apartments

A long time ago, LP had a site to discuss this case, his original one.  Either him or Rob stated that the pavers did not come from the Anthony's home, they were only used for designating where Caylee was. Not sure if true tho.  I also don't think that area was flooded yet when Casey dumped Caylee. TS Faye came through around August 18th, 19th.  TES did not come to search for Caylee until Aug. 30th.  So no need to weight Caylee's body/bags down, imo.

LP and his meandering mind drives me crazy, but he did claim that someone had video of Casey without Caylee at a motel, either the 15th or the 16th, but take it for what it's worth. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 30, 2011, 01:25:35 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-28/news/os-casey-anthony-trial-defense-tactic20110528_1_casey-anthony-defense-team-george-anthony)

Defense's sex-abuse claims may force Casey Anthony to testify
May 28, 2011|By Bianca Prieto, Orlando Sentinel

In its effort to provide an alternate theory on how Caylee Anthony died and explain why her mother never reported the child missing, the defense team may have created a scenario in which Casey Anthony must take the stand.

 ::snipping2::

It's just MOO, but I think it's becoming more and more likely that KC will testify. I don't think the defense has made it's my mind up yet, but are open to the possibility. IF that happens, buckle up! The defense would get to question her first, and by the end of that, I predict the forum thread will be hopping mad. She's a VERY effective liar......... she's practiced the art for a long time and I've been struck by how much detail she can weave around the lies. She's also demonstrated how she chooses lies for multiple reasons and keeps the successful ones going for years. The sex abuse lie (IMO) garnered her attention and was used to deepen relationships (jailhouse letters, tony, etc). The job lie was used to appear normal to friends and keep her parents off her back. Both of those were pulled out over the course of years, as needed. She was also beginning another favorite with the "I'm going to get Mom's house" theme. The jury has heard how well she thinks on her feet when Cindy was testifying as to Casey being caught at the house when she was supposed to be in Tampa.

The Prosecution will have at it with her, and I have to believe that they'll tear her to shreds, but I must say, I'm glad the State's attys are as good as they are. IMO, KC could handle things well enough to perhaps give one juror a reasonable doubt, if they weren't. Jeff and Linda have shown themselves to be very competant, and I'm not worried.

KC is going DOWN~~!   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 01:27:11 PM
HHHmmmmm, I just had a thought that I've never had before(and I think I've thought of everything in this case several times over).  I am wondering if there could be chloroform on the blanket??????????  Could traces of it possibly be on it, or would it have all evaporated????????????


..................




Eco-USA: Toxics: Chemicals: Chloroform
Chloroform

Disclaimer

Introduction

Chloroform is also known as trichloromethane, methane chloride, or methyltrichloride. It is a colorless liquid with a pleasant, non-irritating odor and slightly sweet taste. Most of the chloroform found in the environment comes from industry. It will only burn when it reaches very high temperatures. Chloroform was one of the first inhaled anesthetics to be used during surgery, but it is not used for anesthesia today. Nearly all the chloroform made in the United States today is used to make other chemicals, but some is sold or traded to other countries. We also import chloroform.

Chloroform enters the environment from chemical companies, paper mills, waste water from sewage treatment plants, and drinking water that contains chlorine. Chloroform can enter the air directly from factories that make or use it, and by evaporating from water and soil that contain it. It can enter water and soil when waste water that contains chlorine is released into water or soil. It may enter water and soil from spills and by leaks from storage and waste sites. In addition to its industrial production and use, small amounts of chloroform are formed as an unwanted product during the process of adding chlorine to water. Chlorine is added to most drinking water and many waste waters to destroy bacteria. There are many ways for chloroform to enter the environment, so small amounts of it are likely to be found almost everywhere.

Fate & Transport

Chloroform evaporates very quickly when exposed to air. Chloroform also dissolves easily in water, but does not stick to the soil very well. This means that it can travel down through soil to ground water where it can enter a water supply. Chloroform lasts for a long time in both the air and in the ground water. Most chloroform in the air eventually breaks down, but this process is slow. The breakdown products in air include phosgene, which is more toxi than chloroform, and hydrogen chloride, which is also toxic. Some chloroform may break down in soil. Chloroform does not appear to build up in great amounts in plants and animals, but we find some small amounts of chloroform in foods.


http://www.eco-usa.net/toxics/chemicals/chloroform.shtml

Thanks Pharlap

It lasts a long time in the air it seems, which is why the air tests were positive for it.  It also tested positive on some part of the tire well, didn't it?  It appears, unless I am reading it wrong, that it would not stay on blankets or carpeting too long?  Thank God I am not a scientist.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 30, 2011, 01:27:23 PM
Happy Memorial Day Monkeys!  ::justice2NJ::

I really think KC expected Cindy to back her up. After George's affairs, laziness, money issues, she figured mommy would dump him if she made her allegations. Thats where the personality disorder kicks in, borderlines try to divide and conquer..FOOLED again!

I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 30, 2011, 01:28:19 PM
Geraldo Rivera Talks About the Disturbing Details in Casey Anthony Trial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsAdTGh_AI&feature=player_embedded#at=20

Whoraldo claims the prosecution is doing an excellent job in the "slutification process of ICA".  Newsflash Whoraldo - ICA had no problems doing that on her own and the prosecution is just telling people about it.  I am sure when she is in general pop she will again be wearing her ankles for earrings just like the good old days. 

Just watch whoraldo.....he's not a straight shooter.  I never watch him...
Did this time....won't again...... ::MonkeyBike::

Also, the cherry-picked, very short clips shown of Baez during Baez's opening statement & of his questioning of George, were geared exclusively toward the sexual abuse agenda--hoping the viewer who wasn't as familar with this case as we are, would buy it---hook, line, and sinker.  He may as well be there in Orlando sitting at the Defense table too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 01:29:46 PM
::HelloKitty:: Monkeys!

I'm trying to catch up from last night and I saw the comment about the computer store owner dude seeing Casey and Caylee at Walmart, how Caylee struggled with the Door.   The only problem with that story is his description of where and what type of door it was, is wrong for that particular store. Marinade Dave went there, video taped it and nothing matches up with what this computer store dude said.  Here's his article with videos.  http://marinadedave.com/journal/tag/sutton-place-apartments

A long time ago, LP had a site to discuss this case, his original one.  Either him or Rob stated that the pavers did not come from the Anthony's home, they were only used for designating where Caylee was. Not sure if true tho.  I also don't think that area was flooded yet when Casey dumped Caylee. TS Faye came through around August 18th, 19th.  TES did not come to search for Caylee until Aug. 30th.  So no need to weight Caylee's body/bags down, imo.

LP and his meandering mind drives me crazy, but he did claim that someone had video of Casey without Caylee at a motel, either the 15th or the 16th, but take it for what it's worth. ::MonkeyCool::

Did he ever provide evidence of this?  I hated LP when he came into town, then after he saw the errors of his ways, I really liked him.  I give him a pass on his media whorenss.  But lately, anything I have read anything by him, he seems to indicate a conspiracy with the meter reader, and I just cannot go along with that. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TexasBarMom on May 30, 2011, 01:32:03 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.
I think you're onto something there....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: akmom on May 30, 2011, 01:38:03 PM
::HelloKitty:: Monkeys!

I'm trying to catch up from last night and I saw the comment about the computer store owner dude seeing Casey and Caylee at Walmart, how Caylee struggled with the Door.   The only problem with that story is his description of where and what type of door it was, is wrong for that particular store. Marinade Dave went there, video taped it and nothing matches up with what this computer store dude said.  Here's his article with videos.  http://marinadedave.com/journal/tag/sutton-place-apartments

A long time ago, LP had a site to discuss this case, his original one.  Either him or Rob stated that the pavers did not come from the Anthony's home, they were only used for designating where Caylee was. Not sure if true tho.  I also don't think that area was flooded yet when Casey dumped Caylee. TS Faye came through around August 18th, 19th.  TES did not come to search for Caylee until Aug. 30th.  So no need to weight Caylee's body/bags down, imo.

LP and his meandering mind drives me crazy, but he did claim that someone had video of Casey without Caylee at a motel, either the 15th or the 16th, but take it for what it's worth. ::MonkeyCool::

Did he ever provide evidence of this?  I hated LP when he came into town, then after he saw the errors of his ways, I really liked him.  I give him a pass on his media whorenss.  But lately, anything I have read anything by him, he seems to indicate a conspiracy with the meter reader, and I just cannot go along with that. 

Nope, his meandering mind and all......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: sdmike1974 on May 30, 2011, 01:39:54 PM
The idea of a plea deal seems to come up from time to time.

I believe it was last year that JB told Geraldo Rivera (his BFF) that he was amenable to a plea deal, but it was strictly up to KC.

Then rumors circulated during jury selection that a plea agreement was discussed.

I have been giving this some thought after hearing a number of attorneys, including former judges, comment on how difficult it will be to impose the death penalty on a female with KC's profile.

If we can assume for the sake of discussion that the worst case scenario for KC is probably LWOP. Then what kind of plea would the prosecution accept. Manslaughter? Second degree murder? Or the aggravated killing of a child punishable by a sentence of 30 years?

I would think currently, or perhaps later on in the trial, that the prosecution might agree to the 30 year sentence. I am guessing Baez and/or KC might be holding out for manslaughter.

But as I said, this is just an educated guess. Certainly JB and his legal team are aware of the local media criticism of how his case has gone so far. WFTV Channel 9 has been particularly harsh and relentless with their reports on the trial.

Perhaps meaningful serious discussions are more likely to occur at, or near, the time of closing arguments. But I am inclined to think a plea deal is a distinct possibility.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 01:41:23 PM
Happy Memorial Day Monkeys!  ::justice2NJ::

I really think KC expected Cindy to back her up. After George's affairs, laziness, money issues, she figured mommy would dump him if she made her allegations. Thats where the personality disorder kicks in, borderlines try to divide and conquer..FOOLED again!



I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::

Ditto, however we have No clue what's going to come out of his mouth.

Edit: Fixed quote box


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 01:44:31 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.
I think you're onto something there....

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

Maitland Police Dept. (MPD) about seeing Casey and Caylee at lunchtime. He is a small business owner whose lunch time

schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.
 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

 Casey appears to be leaving the Anthony home @ 4:18 p.m. en route to Tony L.’s apt.
 4:18:51 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:19:18 p.m. – Tony L.’s cell ph call to Casey’s cell ph
 4:19:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:21:32 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:21:56 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Jesse G.’s cell ph
 4:25:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph

 4:26 p.m. – Casey’s cell phone pings show her tracking westward near ROYAL packing company in the 6700 block of

Cheney HWY and Linden LN, Orlando, FL.
 5:06:23 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 5:57 pm Casey’s cell phone pings at or near Tony L.’s apartment – Sutton Place, Winter Park, FL.
June 16

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16


 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph



 Between 3:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Casey allegedly makes numerous calls, lasting anywhere from a few seconds to a minute,

to her parents and several friends.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 30, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
Happy Memorial Day Monkeys!  ::justice2NJ::

I really think KC expected Cindy to back her up. After George's affairs, laziness, money issues, she figured mommy would dump him if she made her allegations. Thats where the personality disorder kicks in, borderlines try to divide and conquer..FOOLED again!



I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::

Ditto, however we have No clue what's going to come out of his mouth.

Edit: Fixed quote box

You said a mouthful, Pharlap!! I would never have expected that "CMA" crap to come out of his or anyone elses mouth at Caylee's memorial, that's for sure!   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 01:47:56 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.
I think you're onto something there....

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

Maitland Police Dept. (MPD) about seeing Casey and Caylee at lunchtime. He is a small business owner whose lunch time

schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.
 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

 Casey appears to be leaving the Anthony home @ 4:18 p.m. en route to Tony L.’s apt.
 4:18:51 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:19:18 p.m. – Tony L.’s cell ph call to Casey’s cell ph
 4:19:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:21:32 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:21:56 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Jesse G.’s cell ph
 4:25:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph

 4:26 p.m. – Casey’s cell phone pings show her tracking westward near ROYAL packing company in the 6700 block of

Cheney HWY and Linden LN, Orlando, FL.
 5:06:23 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 5:57 pm Casey’s cell phone pings at or near Tony L.’s apartment – Sutton Place, Winter Park, FL.
June 16

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16


 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph



 Between 3:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Casey allegedly makes numerous calls, lasting anywhere from a few seconds to a minute,

to her parents and several friends.

Also from Blonde's Timeline:

7:58 p.m. – Casey and Tony L. rented two movies {“Untraceable.” & “Jumper“} from a Blockbuster store located @ 7702

University Blvd, Winter Park, FL. VIDEO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 30, 2011, 01:48:23 PM
Geraldo Rivera says prosecution portraying Casey Anthony as a 'slut'

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/geraldo-rivera-says-prosecution-portraying-casey-anthony-as-a-slut

All i got to say is if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.  

Ah duhhhhhhhhhhhhh  she was a slut.................


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: alagary on May 30, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
Maybe some LE evidence to remind the jury why they are here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: RavenJLS on May 30, 2011, 01:58:25 PM

I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::

I am a little worried.  I think he will basically tell the truth.  Based on Mallerys reaction tho on the stand and breaking down claiming caylee and casey had amazing relationship makes me wonder.  If my fiances sister made claims like casey did about my future husband I wouldnt be to quick feel sympathy towards her unless my fiance did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 30, 2011, 01:59:12 PM
I dont think KC was a good mother. I think she is a pretender..a bullchit artist
When people are looking she knew how to act and God only knows what she did to her when people werent looking, like knock her out to party

That is what I see. She made over Caylee when it served her purpose, but I would bet that child lived in hell when no one but them were around. Some of Caylee's pictures have a very haunting look about them that you see in abused children. From just the temper tantrums we have seen just imagine what that child had to endure.

I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 30, 2011, 02:00:47 PM
I don't think whoever placed the body expected it to take as long as it did.

Within close proximity to the home, close proximity to the reoad.

The child's remains were discovered with items belonging in the Anthony's home- so, regardless of the actual cause of death, there's a strong possibility the child died at the home.

I kept thinking what would be an alternative to placing duct tape on the childs nose, aside from the suffocation theory and I wondered if the duct tape wasn't possibility attatched to keep the insects from invading Caylee's remains through the mouth and nasal openings.

Wrapping Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket (I assume from her bed) seems like it was made in a comfort jesture.  Aside from the blanket, the reemains, the two garbage bags and the laundery bag, I wonder if anything else was located at the remains site.

Oh well, just thinking out loud from another sleep deprived monkey.....

I know the Winnie the Pooh blanket was found at the remains site..but I never read where it was wrapped around her..her bones were scattered in a very large area...is there a link where I could read more about the blanket? 

I don't picture Casey wrapping her in the blanket as a comfort gesture..after she shot her up with chloroform, duct taped her mouth and nose tightly embedding it in her hair, then trash bags..fianlly a laundry hamper..it would really shock me if the blanket was wrapped around her..I think that was something left in the car she pitched out.

The heart sticker was the final kiss off if you will..she loved her more in death then in life.  It wasn't a loving gesture in my opinion it was just the opposite.

Like everything else, Gypsy, I'm speculating about the use of blanket.

I'm assuming the blanket located with or around the remains is the one we've seen pictured on Caylee's bed- which sorta looks like a toddler bed comforter, which was part of a set, and was normally kept on Caylee's bed. 

What would be the purpose of removing the blanket off the bed?

In an emergency situation?  To provide warmth? To comfort?  To wrap up?


In addition to the two black garbage bags with yellow handles, for concealing,

In addition to the canvas type laundry bag with handles, for transporting,

In addition to the Henkel brand duct tape, used for?

I don't know where, on SM, but it was discussed there were remnants of a picture frame located- allegedly at the remains site, one of which had a red heart/sticker on the matting at one time. 

One of our monkeys mentioned it- stated the actual photo with the sticker was viewed on the NG show with the sticker.

Anyone remember discussing this please clarify, TIA.

Monkey King - it was me that brought up the framed pic of Caylee with the heart sticker on the matte. I'll have to dig for it, I'm not even sure what day I posted about it, but it was within the last 2 weeks. One thing that has always weighed heavy on my mind is that I believe after Casey dumped Caylee in the swamp, she returned to the area on several occasions to leave "gifts" so to speak. The criminal always returns to the scene of the crime. I even wonder if that's what happened to Caylee's "teddy bear."

Found it... the previous discussion regarding the picture....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9919.msg1353526#msg1353526

That's it!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Now we need to locate the evidence picture of the frame section and try and find the pic from NG.

It is very possible that Casey left some things at the site.

Nothing would really surprise me anymore, you?
I found the frame in the same document dump as the photo of the gel heart sticker on the matte. Here's a link to those photos, the frame pic is labeled #39. So we have a broken frame, and a photo matte with a pink/red gel sticker on the lower left hand corner all in evidence and collected at the remains site.

About that pic and NG, it poofed after the document dump and I haven't been able to locate it anywhere on line since. Things that make you go hmmm....

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18739950/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 02:01:11 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.
Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.

I think Casey probably did keep one of Caylee's blankets in the car or back pack and that would not seem at all odd to me.  They were staying at other people's apartments  over night many times previous.  It would make sense to being Caylee with her own little blanket..even for a quick nap on the sofa. Many toddlers who are away often have things they take along.  I just believe the blanket was already in the car with a lot of Caylee's other things. 
She had many of Caylee's things..remember she left a bag full of her belongings at Chris S. house.  So I think the blanket was just one more thing to get rid of when she deposited Caylee in the woods.  There were ittle toys there..a broken Barbie, a horse and just all sorts of things.  I think she dumped what she could with Caylee..and because she didn't want this huge pile of things there she get rid of the rest in various ways..Chris S..the plumbing at home..etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: theboyzmom on May 30, 2011, 02:05:31 PM
My hubs and I watched a movie yesterday during kid free time - it was called "Sexual Predator" and it was very relevant to this case - the woman star was a PO and was handling the case of a guy that killed her best friend during sex - but the kicker was that she killed all the guys that came in contact with her all the while fooling everyone into believing she was an INCEST victim - so everyone felt sorry for her and did not hold her accountable. All i could think of was this is exactly what KC thinks she can do - fool everyone into thinking she is a poor baby that was molested by daddy. But the girl in the movie and KC both used sex as a weapon to disarm and manipulate guys. Good movie  and lots to think about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 02:07:09 PM

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

<snipped by Tamikosmom>

 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


These are the flurry of calls that cause me to suspect that Casey discovered her daughter had died of an unintended chloroforum overdose and ... her initial response out of panic was to contact her mother ... her father.

It is my understanding that Casey's attempts to contact either parent in these flurry of calls was unsuccessful.  Am I right?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 02:07:24 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.
I think you're onto something there....

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

Maitland Police Dept. (MPD) about seeing Casey and Caylee at lunchtime. He is a small business owner whose lunch time

schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.
 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

 Casey appears to be leaving the Anthony home @ 4:18 p.m. en route to Tony L.’s apt.
 4:18:51 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:19:18 p.m. – Tony L.’s cell ph call to Casey’s cell ph
 4:19:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:21:32 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:21:56 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Jesse G.’s cell ph
 4:25:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph

 4:26 p.m. – Casey’s cell phone pings show her tracking westward near ROYAL packing company in the 6700 block of

Cheney HWY and Linden LN, Orlando, FL.
 5:06:23 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 5:57 pm Casey’s cell phone pings at or near Tony L.’s apartment – Sutton Place, Winter Park, FL.
June 16

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16


 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph



 Between 3:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Casey allegedly makes numerous calls, lasting anywhere from a few seconds to a minute,

to her parents and several friends.


............
Tks Blondi, was thinking only about June 16th 2008 all morning...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Ono on May 30, 2011, 02:14:22 PM
Does anyone here know if the Anthonys' plumber is on the Prosecution's witness list?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 30, 2011, 02:15:56 PM
http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/


Casey Lashes out in court Video & Lip Reader’s view of what is said

MAY 28, 2011


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 02:18:42 PM
I was wondering ! because something came to my mind about the supposed jail visit that george tried to have with casey anthony. At that time she said george is the only one she would meet with. So casey and george I think requested a visit for george and casey. But somehow someone got wind of it from the baez law firm and put the stop to it. I think it was baez law partner that is no longer with the firm. why the visit with her dad and why did george want to meet with her.

than later sometime in one visit she says "dont worry I havent said anything."
dunno just trying to put the pieces together... sometimes nothing makes sense does it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 02:20:31 PM


Does anyone have the link to the blog from, I think her name was Cathie, that was at the trial the other day and posted pictures?

She has red hair, and was with her Mom at the trial. I forgot to save the link...TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
http://bigmouthshelly.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/casey-lashes-out-in-court-video-lip-readers-view-of-what-is-said/


Casey Lashes out in court Video & Lip Reader’s view of what is said

MAY 28, 2011

Hi tupelo thanks for posting that. I think george and cindy have tried for three years! to see her to get her to acknowledge them in the courtroom. In a most recent time right before jury selection! cindy began sitting in the front rows of the gallery, closer to casey. Still no acknowledgement from casey. Now she is going to act like a two year old ! in her attorneys own words.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 02:26:31 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.
I think you're onto something there....

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

Maitland Police Dept. (MPD) about seeing Casey and Caylee at lunchtime. He is a small business owner whose lunch time

schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.
 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

 Casey appears to be leaving the Anthony home @ 4:18 p.m. en route to Tony L.’s apt.
 4:18:51 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:19:18 p.m. – Tony L.’s cell ph call to Casey’s cell ph
 4:19:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:21:32 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:21:56 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Jesse G.’s cell ph
 4:25:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph

 4:26 p.m. – Casey’s cell phone pings show her tracking westward near ROYAL packing company in the 6700 block of

Cheney HWY and Linden LN, Orlando, FL.
 5:06:23 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 5:57 pm Casey’s cell phone pings at or near Tony L.’s apartment – Sutton Place, Winter Park, FL.
June 16

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16


 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph



 Between 3:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Casey allegedly makes numerous calls, lasting anywhere from a few seconds to a minute,

to her parents and several friends.

I want to know why she would call Jesse Grund, her ex-BF, to complain about her parents?  That makes no sense to me.  She hates him, breaks up with him, but calls to complain to him. 

I cannot pinpoint when I think she killed Caylee.  Can anybody else? 

The calls from 6:31 to whenever, where were they made by?   

I think whatever happened happened between 4:26 and 5:57, where she was near the Royal Packing company for an hour and a half until she pinged near Tony's.  The calls after to mom are dad were to set up the drowning theory, IMO.  Backs car up to house, pulls Caylee out, puts ladder on pool, puts Caylee dead in pool, no answer to her calls, puts her in the playhouse, goes and meets Tony for blockbuster. 

I believe she really wanted to be wiht Tony that night and to stay over.  She was falling in love, but her parents would nto watch Caylee for one reason or another and she got pissed off that she is straddled with a 2-year-old child and she was not going to be able to go to Tony's that night and she exploded in anger and just thought, I have to get rid of this kid. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 02:28:16 PM
I was wondering ! because something came to my mind about the supposed jail visit that george tried to have with casey anthony. At that time she said george is the only one she would meet with. So casey and george I think requested a visit for george and casey. But somehow someone got wind of it from the baez law firm and put the stop to it. I think it was baez law partner that is no longer with the firm. why the visit with her dad and why did george want to meet with her.

than later sometime in one visit she says "dont worry I havent said anything."
dunno just trying to put the pieces together... sometimes nothing makes sense does it.

Is there a transcript of this phone call somewhere to see the context of "don't worry I haven't said anything" and she said this to Lee right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: karenmamo on May 30, 2011, 02:28:39 PM
With the most honest emotion we have seen from Casey so far, she said this: “…hurts me… she’s here to protect him… she‘s never protected me…
she’s not even trying now… (Lawyer mentions giving Cindy a chance)
She’s been given a chance for 3 years and did NOTHING…
But now ya know it’s like she’s been given the chance… like every single day…"

…away from them… and everyone will help him… and I can’t help who she’s with… I mean I can’t…”

…that hurts so bad… she didn’t look at me once the entire time… (mumbles) …yeah, she did the other day…
(shaking head at Baez) she’s not gonna fight for me… there’s no way…
 (wiping cheeks, shaking her head no) there’s no way for that, there’s no way for her…"
Now, what I could not wrap this brain around is this:  Casey Anthony actually believes her own lies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 02:31:37 PM

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

<snipped by Tamikosmom>

 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


These are the flurry of calls that cause me to suspect that Casey discovered her daughter had died of an unintended chloroforum overdose and ... her initial response out of panic was to contact her mother ... her father.

It is my understanding that Casey's attempts to contact either parent in these flurry of calls was unsuccessful.  Am I right?

Janet

Correction.  I believe that the following flurry of calls is when something happened to Caylee and ... Casey's initial response was to contact either her mother or father.

Janet

++++

Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 02:32:27 PM
I am reminded of one the first  jailhouse visits, I think it was her first arrest. The anthonys went to visit this piss of crap and cindy was crying! caseys says to george kind of annoyed. "Why is she crying already. I had the impression she was annoyed because they should have been thinking about her and how they were going to help her get out.

I hope they play that video sometime to show how cold and insensetive  the inmate is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 02:32:59 PM
But then, gosh my mind never stops, say those last calls were to set up drowning theory, if she had been successful in contacting her parents, would she have been able to go to Tony's that night?  I would assume that would look horible to her parents for her to go want to boink her BF the night her daughter died?  I envision, she would have had a fight with her parents after she gets them to find Caylee had died of an accidental drowning, and she would walk out and go on to Tony's anyway. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kermit on May 30, 2011, 02:36:25 PM
Geraldo Rivera Talks About the Disturbing Details in Casey Anthony Trial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsAdTGh_AI&feature=player_embedded#at=20

Whoraldo claims the prosecution is doing an excellent job in the "slutification process of ICA".  Newsflash Whoraldo - ICA had no problems doing that on her own and the prosecution is just telling people about it.  I am sure when she is in general pop she will again be wearing her ankles for earrings just like the good old days. 

Just watch whoraldo.....he's not a straight shooter.  I never watch him...
Did this time....won't again...... ::MonkeyBike::

Also, the cherry-picked, very short clips shown of Baez during Baez's opening statement & of his questioning of George, were geared exclusively toward the sexual abuse agenda--hoping the viewer who wasn't as familar with this case as we are, would buy it---hook, line, and sinker.  He may as well be there in Orlando sitting at the Defense table too.

I'm perplexed as to what did Casey do with her daughter all day since she wasn't working and no one seems to know she wasn't working and dropping the daughter off with the nanny. Didn't anyone ever see her?

My second question is - could zanny be  zanax - a drug? Could she have been drugging her 2 1/2 year old for some time? Is there any evidence that would suggest that?

George is a former police officer - is there any concrete evidence as to why he wouldn't call and report the car when he smelled
decomposition coming from the car that he and Cindy went to pick up at the impound lot? I'm confused why a cop no matter what is going on, knowing that type of smell, wouldn't call & have the police make a report. For all he knows at that point that particular car could have been involved something - stolen etc.  He testified he prayed and he hoped it wasn't his daughter or grand-daughter. I don't understand this area of testimony. He testified he drove the car home with windows down and parked it inside the garage?  He is either showing a lack of care about his police training & family or he is complicit in something???? Why would he think that his daughter and/or granddaughter might be dead in that car when he testified that after he got home, Cindy called Casey and he went to work? 

I apologize for my redundant questions - I know it can be irritating to those who have followed & have knowledge of the case from the beginning. I haven't followed the case until the trial began.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 02:37:35 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.
I think you're onto something there....

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

Maitland Police Dept. (MPD) about seeing Casey and Caylee at lunchtime. He is a small business owner whose lunch time

schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.
 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

 Casey appears to be leaving the Anthony home @ 4:18 p.m. en route to Tony L.’s apt.
 4:18:51 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:19:18 p.m. – Tony L.’s cell ph call to Casey’s cell ph
 4:19:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:21:32 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:21:56 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Jesse G.’s cell ph
 4:25:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph

 4:26 p.m. – Casey’s cell phone pings show her tracking westward near ROYAL packing company in the 6700 block of

Cheney HWY and Linden LN, Orlando, FL.
 5:06:23 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 5:57 pm Casey’s cell phone pings at or near Tony L.’s apartment – Sutton Place, Winter Park, FL.
June 16

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16


 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph



 Between 3:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Casey allegedly makes numerous calls, lasting anywhere from a few seconds to a minute,

to her parents and several friends.

I want to know why she would call Jesse Grund, her ex-BF, to complain about her parents?  That makes no sense to me.  She hates him, breaks up with him, but calls to complain to him. 

I cannot pinpoint when I think she killed Caylee.  Can anybody else? 

The calls from 6:31 to whenever, where were they made by?   

I think whatever happened happened between 4:26 and 5:57, where she was near the Royal Packing company for an hour and a half until she pinged near Tony's.  The calls after to mom are dad were to set up the drowning theory, IMO.  Backs car up to house, pulls Caylee out, puts ladder on pool, puts Caylee dead in pool, no answer to her calls, puts her in the playhouse, goes and meets Tony for blockbuster. 

I believe she really wanted to be wiht Tony that night and to stay over.  She was falling in love, but her parents would nto watch Caylee for one reason or another and she got pissed off that she is straddled with a 2-year-old child and she was not going to be able to go to Tony's that night and she exploded in anger and just thought, I have to get rid of this kid. 
......................................


From the beginning way back, I've been looking at pings charts till I was blue in the face.
casey would go by Johnson's Wrecker a lot of times.
Go to ping 7 and look at the time...

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103915041605280294744.00045ae22ed686956f709&ll=28.530845,-81.321487&spn=0.256988,0.433273&t=h&z=11


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 02:39:47 PM
I thought it was strange to go by Johnson's Wrecker's.
Maybe she first put cayle there, or that's where caylee died.????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 02:44:07 PM
I thought it was strange to go by Johnson's Wrecker's.
Maybe she first put cayle there, or that's where caylee died.????

I looked at them before the body was discovered....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 02:44:55 PM
Happy Memorial Day Monkeys!  ::justice2NJ::

I really think KC expected Cindy to back her up. After George's affairs, laziness, money issues, she figured mommy would dump him if she made her allegations. Thats where the personality disorder kicks in, borderlines try to divide and conquer..FOOLED again!



I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::

Ditto, however we have No clue what's going to come out of his mouth.

Edit: Fixed quote box

Whatever comes out, it had better be the truth.  He has previously been given immunity to tell the truth and he can't go back on what he said now. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 02:48:08 PM
THEORY IN A NUTSHELL - THE DEMISE AND DISPOSAL OF CAYLEE MARIE

Afternoon - June 16th


1.  Caylee dies of an unintended drug overdose (chloroform) while Casey is doing whatever Casey does when she is suppose to be at “work”.

2.  Casey panics and unsuccessfully attempts to call her mother and in a “flurry” of cell phone calls.

3.  Considering both parents are at work … Casey returns home.

4.  Casey changes a deceased Caylee's clothing.

5.  Casey wraps duct tape around a deceased Caylee’s head and mouth to prevent the escape of bodily fluids and … attaches a heart sticker.

6.  Casey wraps a deceased Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket and places her daughter's body in three garbage bags.

7.  Casey temporarily places her daughter's body in the backyard playhouse.

8.  Casey contacts and meets up with boyfriend.

9.  Casey spends evening at boyfriend's residence watching videos.


June 17th

1.  Casey spends the day in bed with boyfriend.


Afternoon - June 18th

1.  Casey returns home while parents are at work.

2.  Casey borrows shovel from neighbour.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Cayley from inside playhouse and buries her daughter under a concrete paver beneath the playhouse.


June 24th

1.  Casey returns home at a time she expects both parents to be at work ... at a time her mother believes she and Caylee are in Jackson.  However … an afternoon appointment implies her father is home.

2.  Casey returns her father's gas can and leaves but returns home later.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Caylee from under the concrete paver beneath the playhouse and … places her daughter’s bagged remains inside the trunk of her vehicle.

4.  Casey disposes of her daughter’s remains in a familiar location where an eventual discovery is made by a meter man.

5.  Realizing the plastic garbage bags containing Caylee remains had been compromised and body decomposition had leaked into the trunk of her vehicle resulting in a foul odor ... Casey unsuccessfully attempts to rid the odor with baking powder.


JUNE 25TH- 27TH

1.  Casey complains of the foul odor to her friend.


JUNE 27TH

1.  Casey abandons her vehicle



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Girlzrock on May 30, 2011, 02:49:35 PM

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

<snipped by Tamikosmom>

 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


These are the flurry of calls that cause me to suspect that Casey discovered her daughter had died of an unintended chloroforum overdose and ... her initial response out of panic was to contact her mother ... her father.

It is my understanding that Casey's attempts to contact either parent in these flurry of calls was unsuccessful.  Am I right?

Janet

Correction.  I believe that the following flurry of calls is when something happened to Caylee and ... Casey's initial response was to contact either her mother or father.

Janet

++++

Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph



In your opinion (anyone) does George being included in this flurry of calls help or hurt the defenses "theory" he covered up the accidental drowning of Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 02:50:23 PM
Regarding the smell and George not reporting it to police immediately, IMO, he thought he smelled decomp, but not finding anything in the car, he doubted himself and figured there was an explanation, and he wanted that explanation, and first he had to get the car home, and Cindy handled Casey for the most part.  They did not know that Caylee was truly missing at that point.  He was starting a new job that day, had no real concrete evidence that something was amiss, and figured Cindy would get to the bottom of it.  And, it was only an hour or 2 before police were called.

IMO, they had no idea what they were dealing with when they picked up the car and were wanting to get in touch with Casey to find out why it smelled so bad and why she dumped it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 02:50:28 PM
Geraldo Rivera Talks About the Disturbing Details in Casey Anthony Trial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsAdTGh_AI&feature=player_embedded#at=20

Whoraldo claims the prosecution is doing an excellent job in the "slutification process of ICA".  Newsflash Whoraldo - ICA had no problems doing that on her own and the prosecution is just telling people about it.  I am sure when she is in general pop she will again be wearing her ankles for earrings just like the good old days. 

Just watch whoraldo.....he's not a straight shooter.  I never watch him...
Did this time....won't again...... ::MonkeyBike::

Also, the cherry-picked, very short clips shown of Baez during Baez's opening statement & of his questioning of George, were geared exclusively toward the sexual abuse agenda--hoping the viewer who wasn't as familar with this case as we are, would buy it---hook, line, and sinker.  He may as well be there in Orlando sitting at the Defense table too.

I'm perplexed as to what did Casey do with her daughter all day since she wasn't working and no one seems to know she wasn't working and dropping the daughter off with the nanny. Didn't anyone ever see her?

My second question is - could zanny be  zanax - a drug? Could she have been drugging her 2 1/2 year old for some time? Is there any evidence that would suggest that?

George is a former police officer - is there any concrete evidence as to why he wouldn't call and report the car when he smelled
decomposition coming from the car that he and Cindy went to pick up at the impound lot? I'm confused why a cop no matter what is going on, knowing that type of smell, wouldn't call & have the police make a report. For all he knows at that point that particular car could have been involved something - stolen etc.  He testified he prayed and he hoped it wasn't his daughter or grand-daughter. I don't understand this area of testimony. He testified he drove the car home with windows down and parked it inside the garage?  He is either showing a lack of care about his police training & family or he is complicit in something???? Why would he think that his daughter and/or granddaughter might be dead in that car when he testified that after he got home, Cindy called Casey and he went to work? 

I apologize for my redundant questions - I know it can be irritating to those who have followed & have knowledge of the case from the beginning. I haven't followed the case until the trial began.



1.  Nobody knows what Casey did with Caylee but Casey wasn't working so it's not like she had to keep Caylee someplace all day.  My bet is Casey kept Caylee in the car alot.  Maybe even in the trunk if she was drugged up enough to sleep.

2.  Yes, Zanny could be a name Casey used for Zanax.  We had thought about that. 

3.  My take on George and the smell in the car at the impound lot.  George smelled a dead human/animal but there wasn't anything dead in the car.  I think he was HOPING the smell didn't come from either Casey or Caylee.  I believe Cindy had been having phone/text contact with Casey almost continuously and Casey was lying about her and Caylee.  Cindy and George therefore thought that both Casey and Caylee were ok and no reason to believe the smell could have come from their granddaughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 02:55:24 PM

I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::

I am a little worried.  I think he will basically tell the truth.  Based on Mallerys reaction tho on the stand and breaking down claiming caylee and casey had amazing relationship makes me wonder.  If my fiances sister made claims like casey did about my future husband I wouldnt be to quick feel sympathy towards her unless my fiance did.

I'm perplexed as to "why" Mallory broke down and why she stated that KC & Caylee's relationship was "amazing".  Just prior, Mallory had testified that she wasn't really close to KC.  So what is Mallory basing this amazing relationship on...obviously not because she was close to them and spent a lot of time around them and observed that amazing relationship often.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 02:59:05 PM

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

<snipped by Tamikosmom>

 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


These are the flurry of calls that cause me to suspect that Casey discovered her daughter had died of an unintended chloroforum overdose and ... her initial response out of panic was to contact her mother ... her father.

It is my understanding that Casey's attempts to contact either parent in these flurry of calls was unsuccessful.  Am I right?

Janet

You're right; she didn't make contact with either parent.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 03:00:15 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.
I think you're onto something there....

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

Maitland Police Dept. (MPD) about seeing Casey and Caylee at lunchtime. He is a small business owner whose lunch time

schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.
 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

 Casey appears to be leaving the Anthony home @ 4:18 p.m. en route to Tony L.’s apt.
 4:18:51 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:19:18 p.m. – Tony L.’s cell ph call to Casey’s cell ph
 4:19:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:21:32 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:21:56 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Jesse G.’s cell ph
 4:25:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph

 4:26 p.m. – Casey’s cell phone pings show her tracking westward near ROYAL packing company in the 6700 block of

Cheney HWY and Linden LN, Orlando, FL.
 5:06:23 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 5:57 pm Casey’s cell phone pings at or near Tony L.’s apartment – Sutton Place, Winter Park, FL.
June 16

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16


 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph



 Between 3:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Casey allegedly makes numerous calls, lasting anywhere from a few seconds to a minute,

to her parents and several friends.
you know for the longest time  it was about cma ( casey)  the memorial for caylee was all about eliciting support for casey.  Casey basked in the limelight of the camera's during her  time out on bond! she would ask the driver that transported her to bozo's office! are the helicopter/cameras/media here!! how many are there!!
also while out on bond! cindy had a dinner for her! invited jose and his wife and others to celebrate her home coming! much like the way OJ thingie.

she was the center of attention and she gloried in it! for three long years we have had to watch and hear the defense team parade on every morning/noon shows  to promote themselves! not the client!! not caylee!!
now finaly it is about the real cma caylee marie anthony. She is now front as it should be. Now the defense hates the media even tried to keep them out of the courtroom. It is no longer to their benefit. There is another entrance to the courthouse that the prosecution uses! but no!! the defense comes thorugh the front!! hoping  that people notice the dream team which is more like the scream team.

as our moderator klaas would say
just us for caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 03:01:57 PM
I was wondering ! because something came to my mind about the supposed jail visit that george tried to have with casey anthony. At that time she said george is the only one she would meet with. So casey and george I think requested a visit for george and casey. But somehow someone got wind of it from the baez law firm and put the stop to it. I think it was baez law partner that is no longer with the firm. why the visit with her dad and why did george want to meet with her.

than later sometime in one visit she says "dont worry I havent said anything."
dunno just trying to put the pieces together... sometimes nothing makes sense does it.

Is there a transcript of this phone call somewhere to see the context of "don't worry I haven't said anything" and she said this to Lee right?

I remember hearing that call...IIRC...she said it to Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 03:02:54 PM

I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::

I am a little worried.  I think he will basically tell the truth.  Based on Mallerys reaction tho on the stand and breaking down claiming caylee and casey had amazing relationship makes me wonder.  If my fiances sister made claims like casey did about my future husband I wouldnt be to quick feel sympathy towards her unless my fiance did.

I'm perplexed as to "why" Mallory broke down and why she stated that KC & Caylee's relationship was "amazing".  Just prior, Mallory had testified that she wasn't really close to KC.  So what is Mallory basing this amazing relationship on...obviously not because she was close to them and spent a lot of time around them and observed that amazing relationship often.

I think Mallory saw a little girl who loved her mother.  That, is amazing to anybody, I believe.  I don't recall them asking Mallory if KC was an amazing mother.  When and what she saw of KC and Caylee was amazing to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 03:03:42 PM
 ::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 30, 2011, 03:04:27 PM
HLN has bozo going through all their lies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 03:06:32 PM
THEORY IN A NUTSHELL - THE DEMISE AND DISPOSAL OF CAYLEE MARIE

Afternoon - June 16th


1.  Caylee dies of an unintended drug overdose (chloroform) while Casey is doing whatever Casey does when she is suppose to be at “work”.

2.  Casey panics and unsuccessfully attempts to call her mother and in a “flurry” of cell phone calls.

3.  Considering both parents are at work … Casey returns home.

4.  Casey changes a deceased Caylee's clothing.

5.  Casey wraps duct tape around a deceased Caylee’s head and mouth to prevent the escape of bodily fluids and … attaches a heart sticker.

6.  Casey wraps a deceased Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket and places her daughter's body in three garbage bags.

7.  Casey temporarily places her daughter's body in the backyard playhouse.

8.  Casey contacts and meets up with boyfriend.

9.  Casey spends evening at boyfriend's residence watching videos.


June 17th

1.  Casey spends the day in bed with boyfriend.


Afternoon - June 18th

1.  Casey returns home while parents are at work.

2.  Casey borrows shovel from neighbour.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Cayley from inside playhouse and buries her daughter under a concrete paver beneath the playhouse.


June 24th

1.  Casey returns home at a time she expects both parents to be at work ... at a time her mother believes she and Caylee are in Jackson.  However … an afternoon appointment implies her father is home.

2.  Casey returns her father's gas can and leaves but returns home later.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Caylee from under the concrete paver beneath the playhouse and … places her daughter’s bagged remains inside the trunk of her vehicle.

4.  Casey disposes of her daughter’s remains in a familiar location where an eventual discovery is made by a meter man.

5.  Realizing the plastic garbage bags containing Caylee remains had been compromised and body decomposition had leaked into the trunk of her vehicle resulting in a foul odor ... Casey unsuccessfully attempts to rid the odor with baking powder.


JUNE 25TH- 27TH

1.  Casey complains of the foul odor to her friend.


JUNE 27TH

1.  Casey abandons her vehicle

than she approachs the neighbor to borrow that shovel... comes back to return no difference in her demeanor.. how cold is that..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 03:09:33 PM

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

<snipped by Tamikosmom>

 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


These are the flurry of calls that cause me to suspect that Casey discovered her daughter had died of an unintended chloroforum overdose and ... her initial response out of panic was to contact her mother ... her father.

It is my understanding that Casey's attempts to contact either parent in these flurry of calls was unsuccessful.  Am I right?

Janet

Correction.  I believe that the following flurry of calls is when something happened to Caylee and ... Casey's initial response was to contact either her mother or father.

Janet

++++

Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph



In your opinion (anyone) does George being included in this flurry of calls help or hurt the defenses "theory" he covered up the accidental drowning of Caylee?

In my opinion ... it helps to exonerate George from any wrongdoing encompassing the death of his granddaughter.

George testified under oath at the trial ... he was not granted immunity from prosecution.  This is the reason I believe his claims that he had no connection to the death and disposal of his granddaughter.  This is the reason that I believe no concrete  proof exists that he sexual molested Casey.  George knows the consequences of purjury.

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 03:10:27 PM
Geraldo Rivera Talks About the Disturbing Details in Casey Anthony Trial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsAdTGh_AI&feature=player_embedded#at=20

Whoraldo claims the prosecution is doing an excellent job in the "slutification process of ICA".  Newsflash Whoraldo - ICA had no problems doing that on her own and the prosecution is just telling people about it.  I am sure when she is in general pop she will again be wearing her ankles for earrings just like the good old days. 

Just watch whoraldo.....he's not a straight shooter.  I never watch him...
Did this time....won't again...... ::MonkeyBike::

Also, the cherry-picked, very short clips shown of Baez during Baez's opening statement & of his questioning of George, were geared exclusively toward the sexual abuse agenda--hoping the viewer who wasn't as familar with this case as we are, would buy it---hook, line, and sinker.  He may as well be there in Orlando sitting at the Defense table too.

I'm perplexed as to what did Casey do with her daughter all day since she wasn't working and no one seems to know she wasn't working and dropping the daughter off with the nanny. Didn't anyone ever see her?

My second question is - could zanny be  zanax - a drug? Could she have been drugging her 2 1/2 year old for some time? Is there any evidence that would suggest that?

George is a former police officer - is there any concrete evidence as to why he wouldn't call and report the car when he smelled
decomposition coming from the car that he and Cindy went to pick up at the impound lot? I'm confused why a cop no matter what is going on, knowing that type of smell, wouldn't call & have the police make a report. For all he knows at that point that particular car could have been involved something - stolen etc.  He testified he prayed and he hoped it wasn't his daughter or grand-daughter. I don't understand this area of testimony. He testified he drove the car home with windows down and parked it inside the garage?  He is either showing a lack of care about his police training & family or he is complicit in something???? Why would he think that his daughter and/or granddaughter might be dead in that car when he testified that after he got home, Cindy called Casey and he went to work? 

I apologize for my redundant questions - I know it can be irritating to those who have followed & have knowledge of the case from the beginning. I haven't followed the case until the trial began.





Kermit - you hit the nails on the head - your questions are just what we all want to know.

No one knows (or it's not come to light) where KC would be all day when she was supposed to be working.

We have thought that at one time KC was using Xanax (Zanny) to baby sit Caylee; hence, Zanny the Nanny.

George, boy, how many times I have asked: why didn't George call the police?  I think with all that was going on and his "fear" left him basically running on fumes (maybe not thinking - just making the motions to get through).  We know that George went back to work because, one, it was a new job and he was concerned about losing it and, two, because Cindy told him to go to work.  She herself went back to work.  IMO, George was on automatic - Cindy rules the roost, Cindy told him to go to work and so he went to work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 03:10:57 PM
Looking over the map, I can't help but wonder why this particular dump site for Caylee's remains.

(I've understood this area was used by the family to bury family pets.)

If Casey was trying to get someone to believe her story of a kidnapping,
why would she choose this site? 

Looking at the map, Suburban Drive seems to be one the main roads into this residential area.
 
I would assume it had a good amount of traffic which could become potential witnesses of seeing Casey's vehicle pulled off the road while she dumped the body.

Further up Suburban Drive was just as remote-



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Girlzrock on May 30, 2011, 03:11:12 PM

I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::

I am a little worried.  I think he will basically tell the truth.  Based on Mallerys reaction tho on the stand and breaking down claiming caylee and casey had amazing relationship makes me wonder.  If my fiances sister made claims like casey did about my future husband I wouldnt be to quick feel sympathy towards her unless my fiance did.

I'm perplexed as to "why" Mallory broke down and why she stated that KC & Caylee's relationship was "amazing".  Just prior, Mallory had testified that she wasn't really close to KC.  So what is Mallory basing this amazing relationship on...obviously not because she was close to them and spent a lot of time around them and observed that amazing relationship often.

It is perplexing... maybe she feels terrible and incredulous at not foreseeing the potential of Casey hurting Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 30, 2011, 03:11:29 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.

If I remember correctly, there is a 7-11 and a Khols close. Assuming that is the one on Narcossee Road where they took it. I am thinking there is also a U-Haul close to it too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 03:11:38 PM
HLN has bozo going through all their lies.
Hi turbo! I amwatching it ughhhh he is so hard to listen to. He says the state has reached a level of desperation... quite the opposite. ::MonkeyDance::
turbo? do you notice jeff ashton in the background laughing quietly?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 03:12:15 PM

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

<snipped by Tamikosmom>

 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


These are the flurry of calls that cause me to suspect that Casey discovered her daughter had died of an unintended chloroforum overdose and ... her initial response out of panic was to contact her mother ... her father.

It is my understanding that Casey's attempts to contact either parent in these flurry of calls was unsuccessful.  Am I right?

Janet

Correction.  I believe that the following flurry of calls is when something happened to Caylee and ... Casey's initial response was to contact either her mother or father.

Janet

++++

Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph



In your opinion (anyone) does George being included in this flurry of calls help or hurt the defenses "theory" he covered up the accidental drowning of Caylee?

In my opinion ... it helps to exonerate George from any wrongdoing encompassing the death of his granddaughter.

George testified under oath at the trial ... he was not granted immunity from prosecution.  This is the reason I believe his claims that he had no connection to the death and disposal of his granddaughter.  This is the reason that I believe no concrete  proof exists that he sexual molested Casey.  George knows the consequences of purjury.

IMO

Janet

This is a good point...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 03:12:35 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.

If I remember correctly, there is a 7-11 and a Khols close. Assuming that is the one on Narcossee Road where they took it. I am thinking there is also a U-Haul close to it too.
there is a sams club and a gas station and a subway that was mentioned.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Samarie on May 30, 2011, 03:13:55 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2011, 03:15:24 PM


Does anyone have the link to the blog from, I think her name was Cathie, that was at the trial the other day and posted pictures?

She has red hair, and was with her Mom at the trial. I forgot to save the link...TIA

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9923.msg1364283#msg1364283


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 03:16:30 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.


If I remember correctly, there is a 7-11 and a Khols close. Assuming that is the one on Narcossee Road where they took it. I am thinking there is also a U-Haul close to it too.
there is a sams club and a gas station and a subway that was mentioned.



.....................
Tks guys.  Wonder if LE got the cam tapes from there.
Ping map shows her around there...at 4:57pm on the 16th of June 08.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: espresso lover on May 30, 2011, 03:21:48 PM
OMG! Now in the OS from Baez, his saying yes in fact Casey "LIED" about the nanny....

How does this effect the other case now with Zanny ?? What will happen to that case now as surely this can be used to fry her in it ???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 30, 2011, 03:23:49 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-did-her-defense-team-go-too-far.html/comment-page-2

Casey Anthony: Did her defense team go too far?
posted by halboedeker on May, 30 2011 11:16 AM



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
I just heard George testify that he was probably the one that put the tape over the gas can so that it wouldn't smell up the shed.  That is funny b/c that makes a heck of a lot more sense than trying to frame his daughter for his granddaughters ACCIDENTAL drowning.  I hope this jury has an iota of common sense.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 03:28:51 PM
Laughing while I watch Baez try to impeach George with previous testimony after showing George the wrong picture associated with his previous testimony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 03:30:59 PM
If this ping chart is correct , has casey in the parking lot of the    
Ping 64
3:06 pm - 11:37 pm Orange County Sheriff‎.

Unless there was some thing around there, then drove to.???

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103915041605280294744.00045ae22ed686956f709&ll=28.530845,-81.321487&spn=0.256988,0.433273&t=h&z=11


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cherjers on May 30, 2011, 03:32:02 PM
Happy Memorial Day Monkeys!  ::justice2NJ::

I really think KC expected Cindy to back her up. After George's affairs, laziness, money issues, she figured mommy would dump him if she made her allegations. Thats where the personality disorder kicks in, borderlines try to divide and conquer..FOOLED again!



I can't wait to see what Lee does and KC's reaction to what Lee does!  ::MonkeyDance::

Ditto, however we have No clue what's going to come out of his mouth.

Edit: Fixed quote box
  last time Lee was in court-after the jail house letters were released-and she said he sexualy abused her--when he was on  ::the stand he looked at her and said I love you---thats when I knew Lee was not playing with a full deck--oh lets not forget the memorial sevice cma cma--so its anyones guess what that nut will say-


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 03:33:57 PM
If this ping chart is correct , has casey in the parking lot of the    
Ping 64
3:06 pm - 11:37 pm Orange County Sheriff‎.

Unless there was some thing around there, then drove to.???

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103915041605280294744.00045ae22ed686956f709&ll=28.530845,-81.321487&spn=0.256988,0.433273&t=h&z=11

.............
The prosecution has to know about this, IF again the chart IS correct.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 03:34:27 PM
THEORY IN A NUTSHELL - THE DEMISE AND DISPOSAL OF CAYLEE MARIE

Afternoon - June 16th


1.  Caylee dies of an unintended drug overdose (chloroform) while Casey is doing whatever Casey does when she is suppose to be at “work”.  How did the unintended drug overdose occur (injected or inhaled).  If inhaled, what did she use to dose Caylee with?

2.  Casey panics and unsuccessfully attempts to call her mother and in a “flurry” of cell phone calls.

3.  Considering both parents are at work … Casey returns home.

4.  Casey changes a deceased Caylee's clothing.  Why did she change her clothing?  Can you imagine changing you dead child's clothing.  Gives me chills just thinking about it.  I am not disagreeing, just saying that that thought is horrible and I could not do it.

5.  Casey wraps duct tape around a deceased Caylee’s head and mouth to prevent the escape of bodily fluids and … attaches a heart sticker.  How did she know that fluids would try to escape, and did she really think duct tape would stop it?

6.  Casey wraps a deceased Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket and places her daughter's body in three garbage bags.

7.  Casey temporarily places her daughter's body in the backyard playhouse.

8.  Casey contacts and meets up with boyfriend.

9.  Casey spends evening at boyfriend's residence watching videos.  And boinking her BF.

June 17th

1.  Casey spends the day in bed with boyfriend.


Afternoon - June 18th

1.  Casey returns home while parents are at work.

2.  Casey borrows shovel from neighbour.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Cayley from inside playhouse and buries her daughter under a concrete paver beneath the playhouse.


June 24th

1.  Casey returns home at a time she expects both parents to be at work ... at a time her mother believes she and Caylee are in Jackson.  However … an afternoon appointment implies her father is home.

2.  Casey returns her father's gas can and leaves but returns home later.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Caylee from under the concrete paver beneath the playhouse and … places her daughter’s bagged remains inside the trunk of her vehicle.

4.  Casey disposes of her daughter’s remains in a familiar location where an eventual discovery is made by a meter man.

5.  Realizing the plastic garbage bags containing Caylee remains had been compromised and body decomposition had leaked into the trunk of her vehicle resulting in a foul odor ... Casey unsuccessfully attempts to rid the odor with baking powder.


JUNE 25TH- 27TH

1.  Casey complains of the foul odor to her friend.


JUNE 27TH

1.  Casey abandons her vehicle


My comments and questions to your theory are in bold. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 30, 2011, 03:39:51 PM
Here is something to think about regarding Casey's calls on June 16th:   She calls her father, mother, friends....NO calls to a nanny.   If she was looking for a sitter she would have called her "Zanny the nanny" who according to Casey was with Caylee rather regularly & supposedly pretty available all the time or she would have asked any of her friends if they could watch Caylee, she did not.

It is my belief that the "flurry" of calls were not about getting a sitter but more to cover her tracks, even if she had killed Caylee unintentionally she would have NEVER been able to compose herself during her communications with Tony L much less go to Blockbuster & rent murder movies to spend the night boinking him into the next day as if nothing happened.  PTSD would not have set in that immediate nor would she have the presence of mind fading in and out of her "blocked memory"  to have to go back and continue covering her tracks over the course of a month including disposing of a body, especially her daughter.   Her claims that she feared her father or mother could be perceived as valid BUT once caught she would have spilled that it was an accident after she was arrested.   There is no way she has sat in jail for 3 years over an unintentional or accidental act without spilling it even if it meant facing child neglect or abuse charges with involuntary manslaughter....its a far cry different than felony murder, for that matter 3 years later she could have conceivably been getting out of jail already.   If the excuses dont fit, you must discount it.

Casey is too spiteful & vengeful when crossed, I believe she was fixated on her lies & stealing catching up to her.   The argument she had with Cindy the night of June 15th over stealing from her grandparents again most likely included Cindy discussing getting custody of Caylee if this horrendous behavior continued.   Caylee was getting old enough to tell her grandparents or anyone that "Zanny" didnt exist & repeat things that she has seen or heard.  I think Casey may have told Caylee that she was going to go visit someone named Zanny but she knew that sooner or later Caylee would be able to say that there was no Zanny.   It was closing in on Casey & she knew it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 03:51:08 PM
Here is something to think about regarding Casey's calls on June 16th:   She calls her father, mother, friends....NO calls to a nanny.   If she was looking for a sitter she would have called her "Zanny the nanny" who according to Casey was with Caylee rather regularly & supposedly pretty available all the time or she would have asked any of her friends if they could watch Caylee, she did not.

It is my belief that the "flurry" of calls were not about getting a sitter but more to cover her tracks, even if she had killed Caylee unintentionally she would have NEVER been able to compose herself during her communications with Tony L much less go to Blockbuster & rent murder movies to spend the night boinking him into the next day as if nothing happened.  PTSD would not have set in that immediate nor would she have the presence of mind fading in and out of her "blocked memory"  to have to go back and continue covering her tracks over the course of a month including disposing of a body, especially her daughter.   Her claims that she feared her father or mother could be perceived as valid BUT once caught she would have spilled that it was an accident after she was arrested.   There is no way she has sat in jail for 3 years over an unintentional or accidental act without spilling it even if it meant facing child neglect or abuse charges with involuntary manslaughter....its a far cry different than felony murder, for that matter 3 years later she could have conceivably been getting out of jail already.   If the excuses dont fit, you must discount it.

Casey is too spiteful & vengeful when crossed, I believe she was fixated on her lies & stealing catching up to her.   The argument she had with Cindy the night of June 15th over stealing from her grandparents again most likely included Cindy discussing getting custody of Caylee if this horrendous behavior continued.   Caylee was getting old enough to tell her grandparents or anyone that "Zanny" didnt exist & repeat things that she has seen or heard.  I think Casey may have told Caylee that she was going to go visit someone named Zanny but she knew that sooner or later Caylee would be able to say that there was no Zanny.   It was closing in on Casey & she knew it.

I agree that nobody would sit in jail on a 1st degree murder charge wtih the possibility of life wo parole or DP if this were an accident.  Totally proposterous to think this, and IMO, that is probably one of the 1st things the Jury will think about when deliberating. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 03:57:10 PM
Casey wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit her on the a$$.

How many people believe she actually told the truth to Baez?

I don't.

Knowing your client is really guilty affects your ability to represent your client to the best of your ability sub-conciously.

I think a lot of people view him as a scum, but most people don't care for defense attorney's anyway- unless of course you need one.

I think Baez has been frustrated with Casey all along, trying to put on a unified front to the public.

He knows what the facts are, I believe he's just trying to level those facts with something sensational to keep Casey from getting the needle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 04:08:08 PM
If the guy at walmart actually saw them at 4pm...Wonder where they went afterwoods.
Have to wait till this guy takes the stand.  I want to hear.
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 04:08:24 PM
I just heard George testify that he was probably the one that put the tape over the gas can so that it wouldn't smell up the shed.  That is funny b/c that makes a heck of a lot more sense than trying to frame his daughter for his granddaughters ACCIDENTAL drowning.  I hope this jury has an iota of common sense.   

my hubby did the same thing to ours!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 04:09:19 PM
As far as I remember, in Casey's jailhouse letters, she stated Lee was the one and George may have too.    How did this get turned around so badly???  What she is accusing now, does not match the letters.   moo

they had to turn it to GA to give 'reason' for him helping KC dispose of Caylee's body. One thing bothers me though and  can't shake it....GA told River/Crystal in Nov (IIRC), it was a terrible accident that snowballed. This makes me believe...and it fits....that JB told them in Nov the drowning story and where she dumped Caylee's body....that's when Cindy sent Dominic Casey to the swamp to look for her body.  For me it all fits.....except for the whooopppppsssss in the opening statement.......but I  have no doubt from their reactions they knew this was coming....the sexual abuse story....not sure they had any idea about the part about GA helping and being there when Caylee 'drown' in the pool though.  But they certainly did not react .....so I applaud their attorney...I think he put the fear of God and Judge Perry in them in that if they reacted, made faces, shook their head or start talking in tongues, their butts would be out of the court room and only allowed in when they testified.

Hi Sunny--
As I recall, Baez did ask George if he had been prepped by the State the previous night.  There was an objection and the judge read the law which permits the attorneys to go over testimony with a witness, prior to their taking the stand.  It's my understanding that under FL law, both the defense and the State must furnish the other party with a copy of their opening statement so that there are no surprises.

Hi BB!  Yes, I heard that too....but I have never heard of sharing their opening statements???  Are you sure of that?  I was looking at Jeff and his reactions didn't strike me as he was hearing something he had heard/read already. I am not doubting your word...but I am gonna ask my Orlando attorney friend if this is the case. It would explain how the A's were so nonreactive....

Hi Sunny---No, I am not absolutely sure, but I heard it on TV somewhere.  It might be true or it might not.  Also, Linda had those questions ready for George in short order if she had just heard it.  If you find out for sure, please post it. 

UPDATE FOR BB and anyone else who is interested:

BB I asked my 'friend' here's his reply:

Q: A friend/poster is under this understanding............It's my understanding that under FL law, both the defense and the State must furnish the other party with a copy of their opening statement so that there are no surprises.
Is this correct??


  A:  Not correct at all. Under Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure 3.220, each side must provide the other a list of all their witnesses so that that there are no surprises. This must be what they were talking about. No such rule whatsoever for opening statements.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 04:09:51 PM
If the guy at walmart actually saw them at 4pm...Wonder where they went afterwoods.
Have to wait till this guy takes the stand.  I want to hear.
 ::MonkeyBike::

wouldn't the surveillance cameras at Walmart have picked them up somewhere in the store/parking lot?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 04:11:01 PM
Here is something to think about regarding Casey's calls on June 16th:   She calls her father, mother, friends....NO calls to a nanny.   If she was looking for a sitter she would have called her "Zanny the nanny" who according to Casey was with Caylee rather regularly & supposedly pretty available all the time or she would have asked any of her friends if they could watch Caylee, she did not.

It is my belief that the "flurry" of calls were not about getting a sitter but more to cover her tracks, even if she had killed Caylee unintentionally she would have NEVER been able to compose herself during her communications with Tony L much less go to Blockbuster & rent murder movies to spend the night boinking him into the next day as if nothing happened.  PTSD would not have set in that immediate nor would she have the presence of mind fading in and out of her "blocked memory"  to have to go back and continue covering her tracks over the course of a month including disposing of a body, especially her daughter.   Her claims that she feared her father or mother could be perceived as valid BUT once caught she would have spilled that it was an accident after she was arrested.   There is no way she has sat in jail for 3 years over an unintentional or accidental act without spilling it even if it meant facing child neglect or abuse charges with involuntary manslaughter....its a far cry different than felony murder, for that matter 3 years later she could have conceivably been getting out of jail already.   If the excuses dont fit, you must discount it.

Casey is too spiteful & vengeful when crossed, I believe she was fixated on her lies & stealing catching up to her.   The argument she had with Cindy the night of June 15th over stealing from her grandparents again most likely included Cindy discussing getting custody of Caylee if this horrendous behavior continued.   Caylee was getting old enough to tell her grandparents or anyone that "Zanny" didnt exist & repeat things that she has seen or heard.  I think Casey may have told Caylee that she was going to go visit someone named Zanny but she knew that sooner or later Caylee would be able to say that there was no Zanny.   It was closing in on Casey & she knew it.

Cap, you always have great posts.
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 04:12:16 PM
I am just now listening to ricardo morales testimony.  I wonder why the state asked if he was married with children.  Doesn't seem relevant but I bet Casey didn't like hearing it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 04:15:37 PM
Here is something to think about regarding Casey's calls on June 16th:   She calls her father, mother, friends....NO calls to a nanny.   If she was looking for a sitter she would have called her "Zanny the nanny" who according to Casey was with Caylee rather regularly & supposedly pretty available all the time or she would have asked any of her friends if they could watch Caylee, she did not.

It is my belief that the "flurry" of calls were not about getting a sitter but more to cover her tracks, even if she had killed Caylee unintentionally she would have NEVER been able to compose herself during her communications with Tony L much less go to Blockbuster & rent murder movies to spend the night boinking him into the next day as if nothing happened.  PTSD would not have set in that immediate nor would she have the presence of mind fading in and out of her "blocked memory"  to have to go back and continue covering her tracks over the course of a month including disposing of a body, especially her daughter.   Her claims that she feared her father or mother could be perceived as valid BUT once caught she would have spilled that it was an accident after she was arrested.   There is no way she has sat in jail for 3 years over an unintentional or accidental act without spilling it even if it meant facing child neglect or abuse charges with involuntary manslaughter....its a far cry different than felony murder, for that matter 3 years later she could have conceivably been getting out of jail already.   If the excuses dont fit, you must discount it.

Casey is too spiteful & vengeful when crossed, I believe she was fixated on her lies & stealing catching up to her.   The argument she had with Cindy the night of June 15th over stealing from her grandparents again most likely included Cindy discussing getting custody of Caylee if this horrendous behavior continued.   Caylee was getting old enough to tell her grandparents or anyone that "Zanny" didnt exist & repeat things that she has seen or heard.  I think Casey may have told Caylee that she was going to go visit someone named Zanny but she knew that sooner or later Caylee would be able to say that there was no Zanny.   It was closing in on Casey & she knew it.

ohhhh that's interesting I didn't even consider that - Caylee getting old enough to say Zanny didn't exist or even "mommy gives me medicine to make me sleep".   

Could that have been her motive?  Caylee getting old enough that she could "ruin" all of mommy dearest's lies?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 04:22:34 PM
Looking over the map, I can't help but wonder why this particular dump site for Caylee's remains.

(I've understood this area was used by the family to bury family pets.)

If Casey was trying to get someone to believe her story of a kidnapping,
why would she choose this site? 

Looking at the map, Suburban Drive seems to be one the main roads into this residential area.
 
I would assume it had a good amount of traffic which could become potential witnesses of seeing Casey's vehicle pulled off the road while she dumped the body.

Further up Suburban Drive was just as remote-



This place was what KC knew.

The gas can/George/trunk of the car thing - where KC ran past George to get the cans and shove them at him - IMO - was to keep him from the trunk so as not to see Caylee in the trunk...it scared KC and she jumped in the car and drove down the street and around the corner and tossed KC into the swamp. 

Evidence will come out proving that KC's car and turpenes on it - DNA analysis puts those turpenes coming from specific plants at the swamp site.  These turpenes do not fly through the air.  They are emitted when brushed against; therefore, KC's car had to be off the road, on the area just above the swamp area.

A "minor" witness saw a white car pulled into that area "during the day".  Never been much in the press about it because the female was a "minor".  I hope this comes out in court.

Anyrate, I'm thinking that KC got flustered because George almost caught her with Caylee in the car so she dumps her at the first place she could....literally. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 04:22:52 PM
I just rocked my sick 2 year old to sleep/nap.  The last thing she saw was her mommy looking at her smiling with love in my eyes before she fell asleep. (hopefully for a full hour)

I swear I could cry thinking what that precious little girl saw in Casey's eyes before she killed her.  I'm sure it wasn't "love".  That's the last thing she ever saw.  THOSE eyes full of hate? relief?  sad very sad


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 04:24:55 PM


Does anyone have the link to the blog from, I think her name was Cathie, that was at the trial the other day and posted pictures?

She has red hair, and was with her Mom at the trial. I forgot to save the link...TIA

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9923.msg1364283#msg1364283

Yes...and...she lef her purse on the seat, Caylee's car seat and "mama" baby doll in the car.  Yet, another weak attempt to foil LE - wanting them to think that they had been abducted.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 04:27:05 PM
Blondi tks for your time line thread.
From now on, I'll go there first before I post.
Seems like I get the answers to my questions....
 ::MonkeyBike:: ::monkeywine2::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: O4Bull on May 30, 2011, 04:27:15 PM
I was watching the replay of the Opening Statements today.  Something that sticks with me is that she showed more emotion, we saw actual tears, when she was angry at Cindy the other day than when Bozo was describing how she could have her father's penis in her mouth at 13, then go to school like nothing happened.

If I were more savvy, I'd put screen shots, frame by frame of each instance to compare.  She is truly evil.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 04:28:27 PM
If this ping chart is correct , has casey in the parking lot of the    
Ping 64
3:06 pm - 11:37 pm Orange County Sheriff‎.

Unless there was some thing around there, then drove to.???

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103915041605280294744.00045ae22ed686956f709&ll=28.530845,-81.321487&spn=0.256988,0.433273&t=h&z=11

Sorry - in the parking lot of "where"?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 04:30:43 PM
THEORY IN A NUTSHELL - THE DEMISE AND DISPOSAL OF CAYLEE MARIE

Afternoon - June 16th


1.  Caylee dies of an unintended drug overdose (chloroform) while Casey is doing whatever Casey does when she is suppose to be at “work”.  How did the unintended drug overdose occur (injected or inhaled).  If inhaled, what did she use to dose Caylee with?

2.  Casey panics and unsuccessfully attempts to call her mother and in a “flurry” of cell phone calls.

3.  Considering both parents are at work … Casey returns home.

4.  Casey changes a deceased Caylee's clothing.  Why did she change her clothing?  Can you imagine changing you dead child's clothing.  Gives me chills just thinking about it.  I am not disagreeing, just saying that that thought is horrible and I could not do it.

5.  Casey wraps duct tape around a deceased Caylee’s head and mouth to prevent the escape of bodily fluids and … attaches a heart sticker.  How did she know that fluids would try to escape, and did she really think duct tape would stop it?

6.  Casey wraps a deceased Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket and places her daughter's body in three garbage bags.

7.  Casey temporarily places her daughter's body in the backyard playhouse.

8.  Casey contacts and meets up with boyfriend.

9.  Casey spends evening at boyfriend's residence watching videos.  And boinking her BF.

June 17th

1.  Casey spends the day in bed with boyfriend.


Afternoon - June 18th

1.  Casey returns home while parents are at work.

2.  Casey borrows shovel from neighbour.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Cayley from inside playhouse and buries her daughter under a concrete paver beneath the playhouse.


June 24th

1.  Casey returns home at a time she expects both parents to be at work ... at a time her mother believes she and Caylee are in Jackson.  However … an afternoon appointment implies her father is home.

2.  Casey returns her father's gas can and leaves but returns home later.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Caylee from under the concrete paver beneath the playhouse and … places her daughter’s bagged remains inside the trunk of her vehicle.

4.  Casey disposes of her daughter’s remains in a familiar location where an eventual discovery is made by a meter man.

5.  Realizing the plastic garbage bags containing Caylee remains had been compromised and body decomposition had leaked into the trunk of her vehicle resulting in a foul odor ... Casey unsuccessfully attempts to rid the odor with baking powder.


JUNE 25TH- 27TH

1.  Casey complains of the foul odor to her friend.


JUNE 27TH

1.  Casey abandons her vehicle


My comments and questions to your theory are in bold. 


1.  How did the unintended drug overdose occur (injected or inhaled).  If inhaled, what did she use to dose Caylee with?

A.  I do not have clue how chloroform is administered.  High levels of chloroforum was forensically detected in the trunk of Casey's vehicle.  Casey googled "chloroform" on the internet.  Could it be that Caylee was administer chloroform to put her to sleep whenever George and/or Cindy could not care for their granddaughter and Casey wanted to do her thing.


2.  Why did she change her clothing?

A.  The same reason Casey put a heart on that duct tape.  The same reason she wrapped her baby in a Winnie the Pooh blanket.  A warped sense of love.  A warped sense of closure.  Considering a deceased Caylee was discovered wearing difference clothes than George described when Casey and his granddaughter left the home on June 16th ... could it be that vomit/body fluids were already escaping and had soiled Caylee's clothes when Casey discovered that Caylee was deceased.


3.  How did she know that fluids would try to escape, and did she really think duct tape would stop it?

A.  Could it be vomit/body fluids were already escaping?  Could it be that it was Casey's belief that the duct tape would serve the purpose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 04:31:22 PM


Does anyone have the link to the blog from, I think her name was Cathie, that was at the trial the other day and posted pictures?

She has red hair, and was with her Mom at the trial. I forgot to save the link...TIA

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9923.msg1364283#msg1364283

Yes...and...she lef her purse on the seat, Caylee's car seat and "mama" baby doll in the car.  Yet, another weak attempt to foil LE - wanting them to think that they had been abducted.



I don't think you guys realize this because you've been on here so long.  Coming from a newbie I gotta say - you guys could REALLY work for the state or the police!  The theories you come up with make alot of sense, are logical & quite frankly are not only insightful but brilliant.  I just wish I had the time to go back & view months & months of posts!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 04:34:09 PM
I was watching the replay of the Opening Statements today.  Something that sticks with me is that she showed more emotion, we saw actual tears, when she was angry at Cindy the other day than when Bozo was describing how she could have her father's penis in her mouth at 13, then go to school like nothing happened.

If I were more savvy, I'd put screen shots, frame by frame of each instance to compare.  She is truly evil.

what stood out to me was burying her head in her team's chest - almost like she was hiding!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: RavenJLS on May 30, 2011, 04:35:33 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-did-her-defense-team-go-too-far.html/comment-page-2

Casey Anthony: Did her defense team go too far?
posted by halboedeker on May, 30 2011 11:16 AM




So color me confused...if Baez in his opening statement claims the reason George and Casey didnt call 911 immediately after finding caylee ACCIDENTLY drowned in the pool is because Cindy would never forgive Casey for not watching Caylee properly...why would Cindy be upset, she is actually the one who is most cupable because the defense claims she is the one to leave the ladder in the pool. The more I think about his senario the less and less it makes any sense...not to mention the leap from George to Kronk. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 04:38:44 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/05/casey-anthony-did-her-defense-team-go-too-far.html/comment-page-2

Casey Anthony: Did her defense team go too far?
posted by halboedeker on May, 30 2011 11:16 AM




So color me confused...if Baez in his opening statement claims the reason George and Casey didnt call 911 immediately after finding caylee ACCIDENTLY drowned in the pool is because Cindy would never forgive Casey for not watching Caylee properly...why would Cindy be upset, she is actually the one who is most cupable because the defense claims she is the one to leave the ladder in the pool. The more I think about his senario the less and less it makes any sense...not to mention the leap from George to Kronk. 

First - never try to "rationlize" something that is irrational.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 04:39:19 PM
2.  Why did she change her clothing?

A.  Considering a deceased Caylee was discovered wearing difference clothes than George described when Casey and his granddaughter left the home on June 16th ... could it be that vomit/body fluids were already escaping and had soiled Caylee's clothes when Casey discovered that Caylee was deceased.



HI TAMIKOSMOM!!

What did George state Caylee was wearing when Caylee was last seen by him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 30, 2011, 04:42:12 PM
Casey wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit her on the a$$.

How many people believe she actually told the truth to Baez?

I don't.

Knowing your client is really guilty affects your ability to represent your client to the best of your ability sub-conciously.

I think a lot of people view him as a scum, but most people don't care for defense attorney's anyway- unless of course you need one.

I think Baez has been frustrated with Casey all along, trying to put on a unified front to the public.

He knows what the facts are, I believe he's just trying to level those facts with something sensational to keep Casey from getting the needle.

He could have gone with an accident long ago.   He could go with an accident now, maybe even put suspicion on Roy Kronk (albeit ridiculous) BUT to put forward false allegations of sexual molestation knowing his client didnt even mention her father other than a "maybe" in a jail letter...that makes him scum.   The moment he knew Casey was lying to him he should have begged for a plea, he didnt & why didnt he, because he wants the sensationalism of this case but unfortunately for him any number of actions will in all likelihood cost him being disbarred rather than him benefiting from it.

The testimony so far as we know it is that Tony L stated that Casey did not accuse her father of sexually molesting her...she did make a half-baked accusation regarding her brother.  Casey's jail letter to her jail mate mentions a similar but more vague story regarding her brother with a mention of "maybe" her father too.   Its an obvious set up for her defense & a rather weak one at that.  To our knowledge Jesse was told a similar story regarding her brother, I dont recall any mention of her father to him, a proffer will happen when Jesse testifies as it occurred with Tony L.   If Jesse states the same as Tony, when and if Casey takes the stand she is immediately impeached if she puts the allegation forward with their testimony.

During her jail visits Casey tells her parents that they are the best grandparents Caylee could have, she further tells her father personally that he is the greatest father she has ever met & she means it from the heart.  When she was offered to talk to one of her parents privately in jail, she chose her father, it doesnt matter that it didnt take place.  This too goes against any allegation she makes now that her father molested her.

According to others, George confronted Casey when she was out of jail on bond.   He was witnessed stating that he was tired of living this lie & was insisting on Casey telling him where Caylee was.   If George took part in any cover up why would he confront Casey with people to witness it not knowing what Casey or even Cindy would say to refute it?   Why didnt Casey say right then and there "you know darn well what happened," she didnt.

This defense team should know that this is far from enough to hang their hats on, the jury will see that this is a desperate attempt to shift blame & make her appear as a victim.  The jury will put themselves in George's shoes & they will see it as despicable if they believe she is flat out lying.  It may not fall into the category of an aggravating factor to the murder but it will be in the back of their minds as they deliberate.   The defense is attempting to conduct a trial within a trial, it didnt work for the Menendez brothers & it wont work for Casey.  I do not even think that will be the determining factor whether she receives the DP versus LWOP.   What I am disheartened to see is just how many people are buying into any of this crapola.   You dont have to be a fan of the Anthonys or condone any of their own behavior previous to trial to not separate this wild & horrendous allegation from the truth.   I believe they should be held accountable for all of their own wrong doings but no one deserves to be stabbed in the heart the way this Satan's spawn is attempting to do & only proves how spiteful & venomous Casey is.   Casey is a monster & Im not fooled by her tears or her lies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Buckeye on May 30, 2011, 04:45:49 PM
Looking over the map, I can't help but wonder why this particular dump site for Caylee's remains.

(I've understood this area was used by the family to bury family pets.)

If Casey was trying to get someone to believe her story of a kidnapping,
why would she choose this site? 

Looking at the map, Suburban Drive seems to be one the main roads into this residential area.
 
I would assume it had a good amount of traffic which could become potential witnesses of seeing Casey's vehicle pulled off the road while she dumped the body.

Further up Suburban Drive was just as remote-



This place was what KC knew.

The gas can/George/trunk of the car thing - where KC ran past George to get the cans and shove them at him - IMO - was to keep him from the trunk so as not to see Caylee in the trunk...it scared KC and she jumped in the car and drove down the street and around the corner and tossed KC into the swamp. 

Evidence will come out proving that KC's car and turpenes on it - DNA analysis puts those turpenes coming from specific plants at the swamp site.  These turpenes do not fly through the air.  They are emitted when brushed against; therefore, KC's car had to be off the road, on the area just above the swamp area.

A "minor" witness saw a white car pulled into that area "during the day".  Never been much in the press about it because the female was a "minor".  I hope this comes out in court.

Anyrate, I'm thinking that KC got flustered because George almost caught her with Caylee in the car so she dumps her at the first place she could....literally. 



Yes....and in her haste, fluids leaked from the bag...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 04:46:05 PM
I was watching the replay of the Opening Statements today.  Something that sticks with me is that she showed more emotion, we saw actual tears, when she was angry at Cindy the other day than when Bozo was describing how she could have her father's penis in her mouth at 13, then go to school like nothing happened.

If I were more savvy, I'd put screen shots, frame by frame of each instance to compare.  She is truly evil.

what stood out to me was burying her head in her team's chest - almost like she was hiding!

Or it was time to nurse.

Hi Beth~ Hope you're sleeping better!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 30, 2011, 04:48:33 PM
Looking over the map, I can't help but wonder why this particular dump site for Caylee's remains.

(I've understood this area was used by the family to bury family pets.)

If Casey was trying to get someone to believe her story of a kidnapping,
why would she choose this site? 

Looking at the map, Suburban Drive seems to be one the main roads into this residential area.
 
I would assume it had a good amount of traffic which could become potential witnesses of seeing Casey's vehicle pulled off the road while she dumped the body.

Further up Suburban Drive was just as remote-



This place was what KC knew.

The gas can/George/trunk of the car thing - where KC ran past George to get the cans and shove them at him - IMO - was to keep him from the trunk so as not to see Caylee in the trunk...it scared KC and she jumped in the car and drove down the street and around the corner and tossed KC into the swamp. 

Evidence will come out proving that KC's car and turpenes on it - DNA analysis puts those turpenes coming from specific plants at the swamp site.  These turpenes do not fly through the air.  They are emitted when brushed against; therefore, KC's car had to be off the road, on the area just above the swamp area.

A "minor" witness saw a white car pulled into that area "during the day".  Never been much in the press about it because the female was a "minor".  I hope this comes out in court.

Anyrate, I'm thinking that KC got flustered because George almost caught her with Caylee in the car so she dumps her at the first place she could....literally. 


::rhino::


The next day is when she began telling Amy her car smelled


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 04:50:34 PM
Was it ever determined what the stains in Caylee's car seat were of?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 04:52:32 PM
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/lost-jailhouse-visit-between-george-cindy-and-casey-anthony-august-14-2008/

I just watched these all again, and I cannot believe that beotch.  ME ME ME ME ME.

I am just as much of a victim...................

What a hoebag.


She WANTS TO MEET WITH HER FATHER. 

I don't hear the "don't worry I didn't tell them anything" comment.  I must be on the wrong call or visitation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
ZooMom - my suggestion.....

Don't go back and read that forum again.  You got away with your brains and common sense this time but next time you might not be so luckly.  Stupid sometimes rubs off.  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 30, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
Does anybody know if JBP was present when Beotchface had her meltdown after Cindy left the stand jury left room?  If he were present, why wouldn't he do something or did he miss the meltdown?  I think he probably left for the 10 minute break already. 

Looks like he was leaving before the meltdown
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL/bezleft.jpg)

Have to say, look at the stunned look on Casey's face here!  Cindy pulled the rug right out from under her...finally!  I think Cindy and everyone else in the family had always attributed Casey's behavior as "just Casey being Casey".  I really think the A's had no clue just how evil Casey really was and what she was capable of.  I think Mark Lippman was a wakeup call, echoing Mark Nejame's original assessment three years ago. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 04:57:42 PM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

It is VERY real....she said that when Jeff Ashton was talking about Caylee's killer putting the duct tape over her mouth...one...piece ....at ....a.......time. It was during a hearing....it is very real!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: starwynn on May 30, 2011, 04:59:33 PM
::snipping::My second question is - could zanny be  zanax - a drug? Could she have been drugging her 2 1/2 year old for some time? Is there any evidence that would suggest that?  ::snipping2::


I had asked the same thing, and apparently it had been discussed and a few people had thought the same, Kermit.  It makes sense to me.

I looked on the autopsy, the toxicology reports - they all seemed to come back as negative. But they don't rule out drugs... just didn't find any.

http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/anthony,%20caylee_report.pdf  (p. 36/36)

"In summary, volatiles and drugs were not detected in the specimens obtained from the remains of Skeletal Remains Unidenfied; ME 2008-001567.  These results do not rule-out the decedent's prior use and/or exposure to volatiles and/or drugs."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 05:00:20 PM
2.  Why did she change her clothing?

A.  Considering a deceased Caylee was discovered wearing difference clothes than George described when Casey and his granddaughter left the home on June 16th ... could it be that vomit/body fluids were already escaping and had soiled Caylee's clothes when Casey discovered that Caylee was deceased.



HI TAMIKOSMOM!!

What did George state Caylee was wearing when Caylee was last seen by him?


Casey Anthony Trial Today
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
GEORGE ANTHONY ON THE STAND


<snipped>

George states he wakes up around 7am when Cindy has left or is going to work. He has coffee and spends time with Caylee.  He would help her to the BR and assist her with brushing he teeth. He would help her with breakfast. It was "a great morning' per George. Caylees favorite videos were 101 Dalmations and Lady in the Tramp. He recalls first seeing Casey around 10am.  He is not sure as he cherished "morning time" with Caylee.Casey left the house around  , he remembers watching the food channel, Caylee was wearing blue jeans and pink top, and Caylee said she was going to see Zanny when asked.

<snipped>

http://caseyanthonytrialtodayinreview.blogspot.com/2011/05/george-anthony-on-stand.html


Defense: Caylee drowned in her grandparents' pool
May 25, 2011 -- Updated 0159 GMT (0959 HKT
)

<snipped>

Baez also attempted to cast doubt on George Anthony's recall of what Caylee was wearing the day he last saw her, suggesting he would likely not have retained that detail as he didn't know it was the last time he would see her. George Anthony completed his testimony on Tuesday but could be recalled to the stand later.

<snipped

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/24/florida.casey.anthony.trial/index.html


Heart sticker, Pooh blanket, and clothing found with Caylee
January 21st, 2009 4:36 pm ET


<snipped>

Also found was a Winnie the Pooh blanket, a plastic toy, and clothing--a pair of white shorts and a size 3T shirt.  Cloth iron-on letters were also in the bag.

The clothing in the bag was not the same clothing George Anthony had described as Caylee wearing when he last saw her alive on June 16, 2008.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/heart-sticker-pooh-blanket-and-clothing-found-with-caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 05:00:56 PM
Was it ever determined what the stains in Caylee's car seat were of?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post #16

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.20

Posts #24, #25


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 05:02:24 PM
THEORY IN A NUTSHELL - THE DEMISE AND DISPOSAL OF CAYLEE MARIE

Afternoon - June 16th


1.  Caylee dies of an unintended drug overdose (chloroform) while Casey is doing whatever Casey does when she is suppose to be at “work”.  How did the unintended drug overdose occur (injected or inhaled).  If inhaled, what did she use to dose Caylee with?

2.  Casey panics and unsuccessfully attempts to call her mother and in a “flurry” of cell phone calls.

3.  Considering both parents are at work … Casey returns home.

4.  Casey changes a deceased Caylee's clothing.  Why did she change her clothing?  Can you imagine changing you dead child's clothing.  Gives me chills just thinking about it.  I am not disagreeing, just saying that that thought is horrible and I could not do it.

5.  Casey wraps duct tape around a deceased Caylee’s head and mouth to prevent the escape of bodily fluids and … attaches a heart sticker.  How did she know that fluids would try to escape, and did she really think duct tape would stop it?

6.  Casey wraps a deceased Caylee in her Winnie the Pooh blanket and places her daughter's body in three garbage bags.

7.  Casey temporarily places her daughter's body in the backyard playhouse.

8.  Casey contacts and meets up with boyfriend.

9.  Casey spends evening at boyfriend's residence watching videos.  And boinking her BF.

June 17th

1.  Casey spends the day in bed with boyfriend.


Afternoon - June 18th

1.  Casey returns home while parents are at work.

2.  Casey borrows shovel from neighbour.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Cayley from inside playhouse and buries her daughter under a concrete paver beneath the playhouse.


June 24th

1.  Casey returns home at a time she expects both parents to be at work ... at a time her mother believes she and Caylee are in Jackson.  However … an afternoon appointment implies her father is home.

2.  Casey returns her father's gas can and leaves but returns home later.

3.  Casey retrieves a deceased Caylee from under the concrete paver beneath the playhouse and … places her daughter’s bagged remains inside the trunk of her vehicle.

4.  Casey disposes of her daughter’s remains in a familiar location where an eventual discovery is made by a meter man.

5.  Realizing the plastic garbage bags containing Caylee remains had been compromised and body decomposition had leaked into the trunk of her vehicle resulting in a foul odor ... Casey unsuccessfully attempts to rid the odor with baking powder.


JUNE 25TH- 27TH

1.  Casey complains of the foul odor to her friend.


JUNE 27TH

1.  Casey abandons her vehicle


My comments and questions to your theory are in bold. 


1.  How did the unintended drug overdose occur (injected or inhaled).  If inhaled, what did she use to dose Caylee with?

A.  I do not have clue how chloroform is administered.  High levels of chloroforum was forensically detected in the trunk of Casey's vehicle.  Casey googled "chloroform" on the internet.  Could it be that Caylee was administer chloroform to put her to sleep whenever George and/or Cindy could not care for their granddaughter and Casey wanted to do her thing. 

Chloroform, as far as I know is administered by pouring some onto a rag and holding it over a victim's mouth/nose, until sleep occurs.  I would assume to keep that person out for an extended period of time, one would need to keep the chloroform over mouth/nose and that if removed, a short amount of time would pass before that person recovered.   

2.  Why did she change her clothing?

A.  The same reason Casey put a heart on that duct tape.  The same reason she wrapped her baby in a Winnie the Pooh blanket.  A warped sense of love.  A warped sense of closure.  Considering a deceased Caylee was discovered wearing difference clothes than George described when Casey and his granddaughter left the home on June 16th ... could it be that vomit/body fluids were already escaping and had soiled Caylee's clothes when Casey discovered that Caylee was deceased.

Did anybody ever find the clothes that George said she was wearing when they left?


3.  How did she know that fluids would try to escape, and did she really think duct tape would stop it?

A.  Could it be vomit/body fluids were already escaping?  Could it be that it was Casey's belief that the duct tape would serve the purpose. 

I don't know.  Depending on where this occured, I would think they may have found evidence of vomit or body fluids there, in house, trunk, etc.  I really don't know.  the duct tape is the most confusing thing in all this.  It just does not fit, for me, any accident theory.  May fit fake kidnapping theory.  Most definitely fits a pure outright murder theory.   



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 05:03:02 PM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

It is VERY real....she said that when Jeff Ashton was talking about Caylee's killer putting the duct tape over her mouth...one...piece ....at ....a.......time. It was during a hearing....it is very real!!


Thanks Sunny.... I thought it was real, but it was like 4a.m. when I found it and wasn't sure if I was thinking right or not..... I am really losing alot of sleep over trying to keep up with everything and work....stupid slore Casey...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 05:04:51 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post 19.  Who is that baby all curled up like that? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ZooMomology on May 30, 2011, 05:06:17 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.20

Post 34.  What is that huge stain on the left side of whatever that thing is?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 05:09:33 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Mtnmom on May 30, 2011, 05:11:24 PM
interesting news article on a case out of California involving Chloroform , describes how they use and why. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/25/california-teacher-charged-allegedly-getting-students-high/

 ::snipping2::
Police allege that Huhndorf took three students, ages 16 to 18, and ‘either showed them how to do it or she poured it on a cloth for them to inhale,’ the station reported, citing Ray Fong, a police sergeant.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/25/california-teacher-charged-allegedly-getting-students-high/#ixzz1Ns8q5R2L
She didn’t encourage the students to get high, a teenage victim told the station. It was “just to ease the stress.” One student apparently passed out after using chloroform with the teacher.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/25/california-teacher-charged-allegedly-getting-students-high/#ixzz1Ns8ao7Vk


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 05:14:13 PM
I was watching the replay of the Opening Statements today.  Something that sticks with me is that she showed more emotion, we saw actual tears, when she was angry at Cindy the other day than when Bozo was describing how she could have her father's penis in her mouth at 13, then go to school like nothing happened.

If I were more savvy, I'd put screen shots, frame by frame of each instance to compare.  She is truly evil.

what stood out to me was burying her head in her team's chest - almost like she was hiding!
teams chest? I dont get it. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 30, 2011, 05:14:51 PM
Frantically scrambling to catch up here. LOL! Reading over at Blink On Crime earlier when a poster (NaNa) made me think of this.  The three pieces of duct tape appear to be almost identical in length (http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html  (http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html) ), even after weathering the swamp and the Florida sun.  Anyone got a link that details how long those pieces were?  I couldn't find one.  TIA
IMO, Caylee was either asleep or unconscious when Casey cut that duct tape.  I say cut because it's a little difficult to tear industrial duct tape to pretty exact lengths. A sleeping Caylee would have struggled against the tape, preventing a tight "seal" if you will against the back of the skull.  Three lengths of tape, tightly sealed says unconscious to me.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 05:16:24 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post 19.  Who is that baby all curled up like that? 
I believe that is an artists rendition of how Caylee may have been laying in the trunk of Casey's car.  Based upon the decomp stain in the trunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
I was watching the replay of the Opening Statements today.  Something that sticks with me is that she showed more emotion, we saw actual tears, when she was angry at Cindy the other day than when Bozo was describing how she could have her father's penis in her mouth at 13, then go to school like nothing happened.

If I were more savvy, I'd put screen shots, frame by frame of each instance to compare.  She is truly evil.

what stood out to me was burying her head in her team's chest - almost like she was hiding! Fix quote.  MB

got it sorry!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 05:18:18 PM

Casey Anthony Trial Today
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
GEORGE ANTHONY ON THE STAND


<snipped>

George states he wakes up around 7am when Cindy has left or is going to work. He has coffee and spends time with Caylee.  He would help her to the BR and assist her with brushing he teeth. He would help her with breakfast. It was "a great morning' per George. Caylees favorite videos were 101 Dalmations and Lady in the Tramp. He recalls first seeing Casey around 10am.  He is not sure as he cherished "morning time" with Caylee.Casey left the house around  , he remembers watching the food channel,  Caylee was wearing blue jeans and pink top , and Caylee said she was going to see Zanny when asked.

<snipped>

http://caseyanthonytrialtodayinreview.blogspot.com/2011/05/george-anthony-on-stand.html



Seems to me George would have remembered, since Casey was asleep, he assisted Caylee with brushing her teeth, helped her in the bathroom, fed her breakfast - he probably dressed her also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 05:20:37 PM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

Thanks Raven.  This is driving me absolutely bat crazy and it is annoying me that this jury is so blind to all of this gunk.

I don't know why the state is not pounding home certain facts, other than Mr. George did most of the friend's testimony, and he is very laid back and as I have said before, I feel, just doing his job, but is really not that all interested in the results, other than what an acquittal would like like under his command.  I am hoping, where it really counts, that Linda or Jeff will do those witnesses. 

Zoo.....how can you or any of us say the jury is 'blind' to anything??  We have no idea what they are think...nor will we until they render a verdict. Mr. George works with Jeff and Linda...they all go over the questions, plan what questions will be asked on who in what order.....the state will pound when it's time to pound....right now they are laying the ground work...brick by brick....he may not be as dynamic as Jeff nor as likable as Linda.....but he knows what he is supposed to do.....have no doubt...he cares....IIRC he has prosecuted many sexual abuse cases.....oh yes...he cares!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 30, 2011, 05:21:49 PM
Looking over the map, I can't help but wonder why this particular dump site for Caylee's remains.

(I've understood this area was used by the family to bury family pets.)

If Casey was trying to get someone to believe her story of a kidnapping,
why would she choose this site?  

Looking at the map, Suburban Drive seems to be one the main roads into this residential area.
  
I would assume it had a good amount of traffic which could become potential witnesses of seeing Casey's vehicle pulled off the road while she dumped the body.

Further up Suburban Drive was just as remote-



I personally think the body was in the car when she threw the gas cans at George and she panicked that he almost looked into the trunk. I think she drove right down the street and dumped it the as quick as she could. Do I think George lied about being that close to the trunk?  Yes I do. I think originally to cover up for KC he locked himself into being beside the car when the truth was he most likely did not get out of the door until she had thrown those gas cans and never even got close to that trunk. I think the fluids had leaked for days even though she had her in 3 garbage bags and a laundry bag. My guess is she had her in the laundry bag first and because of the leakage she put the other 3 bags over her. Maybe not all at one time but as one started to leak another one was added.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 05:21:56 PM
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28070570/detail.html
Casey Trial Returns To Court Tuesday
Trial To Continue After Tearful Testimony
POSTED: 10:09 am EDT May 30, 2011
UPDATED: 1:19 pm EDT May 30, 2011



Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28070570/detail.html#ixzz1NsBVTkZL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 05:27:24 PM
Page 1 of the autopsy report

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5142/5777658681_c0ff12bd3a_o.jpg)

Page 2 of the autopsy report

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2511/5778221718_3f7f2c3d57_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 05:27:48 PM
Chloroform, Syringe Details Emerge In New Casey Docs
New documents reveal Casey may have had a bottle of chloroform and a syringe. (11/06/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/21545320/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 05:30:18 PM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

Thanks Raven.  This is driving me absolutely bat crazy and it is annoying me that this jury is so blind to all of this gunk.

I don't know why the state is not pounding home certain facts, other than Mr. George did most of the friend's testimony, and he is very laid back and as I have said before, I feel, just doing his job, but is really not that all interested in the results, other than what an acquittal would like like under his command.  I am hoping, where it really counts, that Linda or Jeff will do those witnesses. 

Zoo.....how can you or any of us say the jury is 'blind' to anything??  We have no idea what they are think...nor will we until they render a verdict. Mr. George works with Jeff and Linda...they all go over the questions, plan what questions will be asked on who in what order.....the state will pound when it's time to pound....right now they are laying the ground work...brick by brick....he may not be as dynamic as Jeff nor as likable as Linda.....but he knows what he is supposed to do.....have no doubt...he cares....IIRC he has prosecuted many sexual abuse cases.....oh yes...he cares!!


They all three care!!!! It is their life's work....their passion....
When my friends daughters murderers trial was going on, we would break for lunch and we were all concerned about a certain juror who didnt seem to be paying attention,wasn't taking notes, and sometimes seemed to be sleeping. After the trial we got to talk to a few of the jurors. It turned out that he was a high school teacher and was one of the most knowledgeable and helpful in deliberations with guiding the jury along their way to the verdict. He had listened when he needed to, had the facts and the rest (the defense crying rush to judgement) was just not relevant to him. So, I learned from this, that it is very true that you never know what a jury is going to do.
We were on pins and needles waiting for a verdict and sick that it was taking longer than we thought it would take and that he was going to have a hung jury or found not guilty....turns out they had decided guilty, but were carefully going over the instructions given to them to decide exactly what charges fit his crime.
I think it is a good thing that there are three different personalities on the prosecution team. One personality might better resonate with one juror while another may feel more comfortable with another type personality. I , for one, so far am very pleased with the prosecution team....just my 2 cents


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 05:30:31 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-defense-prosecution-20110521,0,3574348.story

Experts predict prosecution, defense strategies for Anthony trial

 ::snipping2::


One of the more provocative takes on that approach comes from Mark NeJame, who at different times has represented George and Cindy Anthony and the search group that looked for Caylee's remains nearly three years ago.

NeJame envisions Casey Anthony taking the witness stand and explaining the "accidental death" of her daughter. She then might attribute her lies, her actions and her failure to report the child's death to fear of her father, according to the prominent Orlando attorney.

"They will develop a story in which she maintains that she lied and covered up an accidental death for fear of some sort of physical response from her father, as untruthful as that might be," NeJame said. "To me it's inescapable that that's the direction they're heading in. It's still fraught with land mines, but that's still their best defense."

It's pretty apparent the defense will direct blame at George Anthony, NeJame and others say, by reading the "tea leaves" of this case:

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 05:31:20 PM

Casey Anthony Trial Today
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
GEORGE ANTHONY ON THE STAND


<snipped>

George states he wakes up around 7am when Cindy has left or is going to work. He has coffee and spends time with Caylee.  He would help her to the BR and assist her with brushing he teeth. He would help her with breakfast. It was "a great morning' per George. Caylees favorite videos were 101 Dalmations and Lady in the Tramp. He recalls first seeing Casey around 10am.  He is not sure as he cherished "morning time" with Caylee.Casey left the house around  , he remembers watching the food channel,  Caylee was wearing blue jeans and pink top , and Caylee said she was going to see Zanny when asked.

<snipped>

http://caseyanthonytrialtodayinreview.blogspot.com/2011/05/george-anthony-on-stand.html



Seems to me George would have remembered, since Casey was asleep, he assisted Caylee with brushing her teeth, helped her in the bathroom, fed her breakfast - he probably dressed her also.

I agree.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 05:32:07 PM
I was watching the replay of the Opening Statements today.  Something that sticks with me is that she showed more emotion, we saw actual tears, when she was angry at Cindy the other day than when Bozo was describing how she could have her father's penis in her mouth at 13, then go to school like nothing happened.

If I were more savvy, I'd put screen shots, frame by frame of each instance to compare.  She is truly evil.

what stood out to me was burying her head in her team's chest - almost like she was hiding!
teams chest? I dont get it. TIA

One of her attorney's I'm not sure which one.  Sorry I actually have pneumonia, and I am 41 with a 2 year old - not as quick as you guys LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 30, 2011, 05:37:20 PM
Looking over the map, I can't help but wonder why this particular dump site for Caylee's remains.

(I've understood this area was used by the family to bury family pets.)

If Casey was trying to get someone to believe her story of a kidnapping,
why would she choose this site? 

Looking at the map, Suburban Drive seems to be one the main roads into this residential area.
 
I would assume it had a good amount of traffic which could become potential witnesses of seeing Casey's vehicle pulled off the road while she dumped the body.

Further up Suburban Drive was just as remote-



This place was what KC knew.

The gas can/George/trunk of the car thing - where KC ran past George to get the cans and shove them at him - IMO - was to keep him from the trunk so as not to see Caylee in the trunk...it scared KC and she jumped in the car and drove down the street and around the corner and tossed KC into the swamp. 

Evidence will come out proving that KC's car and turpenes on it - DNA analysis puts those turpenes coming from specific plants at the swamp site.  These turpenes do not fly through the air.  They are emitted when brushed against; therefore, KC's car had to be off the road, on the area just above the swamp area.

A "minor" witness saw a white car pulled into that area "during the day".  Never been much in the press about it because the female was a "minor".  I hope this comes out in court.

Anyrate, I'm thinking that KC got flustered because George almost caught her with Caylee in the car so she dumps her at the first place she could....literally. 


I didn't know about a minor witness to that.  Interesting.  Do you have a link where I can read about that?  TIA

I agree with your last statement also.  Suburban Dr. would only be heavily traveled at the beginning and end of school, for the most part, as there are no homes, only the school down at the end of the dead end.  I was there about 4:00pm on my visit and only one car came by from the school. No one drove onto HopeSpring or the other road that leads into the subdivision off of Suburban.  This is why I think Caylee was so close to the road, it was a quick dump for sure, imo.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 30, 2011, 05:38:35 PM
I was watching the replay of the Opening Statements today.  Something that sticks with me is that she showed more emotion, we saw actual tears, when she was angry at Cindy the other day than when Bozo was describing how she could have her father's penis in her mouth at 13, then go to school like nothing happened.

If I were more savvy, I'd put screen shots, frame by frame of each instance to compare.  She is truly evil.

what stood out to me was burying her head in her team's chest - almost like she was hiding!
teams chest? I dont get it. TIA

One of her attorney's I'm not sure which one.  Sorry I actually have pneumonia, and I am 41 with a 2 year old - not as quick as you guys LOL
I hope you get well soon, take care of yourself.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 05:46:30 PM
Page 1 of the autopsy report

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5142/5777658681_c0ff12bd3a_o.jpg)

Page 2 of the autopsy report

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2511/5778221718_3f7f2c3d57_o.jpg)

Thanks Klaas.

The autopsy report states that the duct tape was placed prior to decomposition ... not prior to death.

There was an "expert" who claimed otherwise.  Who was he?  Did he examine the remains.

Thanks

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 05:48:26 PM


I agree that nobody would sit in jail on a 1st degree murder charge wtih the possibility of life wo parole or DP if this were an accident.  Totally proposterous to think this, and IMO, that is probably one of the 1st things the Jury will think about when deliberating. 

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 05:50:09 PM
ZooMom - my suggestion.....

Don't go back and read that forum again.  You got away with your brains and common sense this time but next time you might not be so luckly.  Stupid sometimes rubs off.  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::MonkeyDevil::

omg! the funniest quote of the day!! spit my coffee out!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 05:53:00 PM
Janet - more in depth analysis is in the 36 pages of the autopsy report:

www.wesh.com/download/2009/0619/19802034.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
I was watching the replay of the Opening Statements today.  Something that sticks with me is that she showed more emotion, we saw actual tears, when she was angry at Cindy the other day than when Bozo was describing how she could have her father's penis in her mouth at 13, then go to school like nothing happened.

If I were more savvy, I'd put screen shots, frame by frame of each instance to compare.  She is truly evil.

what stood out to me was burying her head in her team's chest - almost like she was hiding!
teams chest? I dont get it. TIA

One of her attorney's I'm not sure which one.  Sorry I actually have pneumonia, and I am 41 with a 2 year old - not as quick as you guys LOL
I hope you get well soon, take care of yourself.



thanks I figured it out... take care of yourself..get well..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 05:57:09 PM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

It is VERY real....she said that when Jeff Ashton was talking about Caylee's killer putting the duct tape over her mouth...one...piece ....at ....a.......time. It was during a hearing....it is very real!!


Thanks Sunny.... I thought it was real, but it was like 4a.m. when I found it and wasn't sure if I was thinking right or not..... I am really losing alot of sleep over trying to keep up with everything and work....stupid slore Casey...

I saw you had a late night!  LOL   I, like you, hope to hear that many times from her during the trial.....MAKE THEM STOP and her attorney(s) saying I/WE CAN'T!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 05:57:14 PM
Janet - more in depth analysis is in the 36 pages of the autopsy report:

www.wesh.com/download/2009/0619/19802034.pdf

Thanks

I will read it later.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 30, 2011, 05:58:38 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/2-16-10e.jpg)

Blonde - TY

I was just remember that a color photo showed the light brown liquid in the syringe (but didn't find a picture of it).


the needle is missing the ... vitta bella! engraved  on it

Looking at this closeup of the needle, if that needle is used (and it appears to be), if there was in injection: there should be skin cells on the needle/in the fluid in the cap and there should also be blood cells from the injection site. If the needle was used to inject anything into a hole in the duct tape, there may be duct tape adhesive residue on the needle, or compounds from the adhesive in the fluid in the cap. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:01:46 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-defense-prosecution-20110521,0,3574348.story

Experts predict prosecution, defense strategies for Anthony trial

 ::snipping2::


One of the more provocative takes on that approach comes from Mark NeJame, who at different times has represented George and Cindy Anthony and the search group that looked for Caylee's remains nearly three years ago.

NeJame envisions Casey Anthony taking the witness stand and explaining the "accidental death" of her daughter. She then might attribute her lies, her actions and her failure to report the child's death to fear of her father, according to the prominent Orlando attorney.

"They will develop a story in which she maintains that she lied and covered up an accidental death for fear of some sort of physical response from her father, as untruthful as that might be," NeJame said. "To me it's inescapable that that's the direction they're heading in. It's still fraught with land mines, but that's still their best defense."

It's pretty apparent the defense will direct blame at George Anthony, NeJame and others say, by reading the "tea leaves" of this case:

 ::snipping2::


oh I love this comment!!

"[Assistant State Attorney] Jeff Ashton would destroy her on the stand," Hornsby said. "You couldn't prepare Casey Anthony enough for Jeff Ashton."

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:02:07 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ

This confirmed to me there is something not right about Lee....what brother would mouth I Love You to his sister who has accused him of sexual abuse? A normal reaction would be to be pizzed at her....Lee is not normal IMO....I am not saying he did anything to KC or helped her do anything with Caylee's body.....but there is something about him that is just 'off.'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:03:36 PM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

It is VERY real....she said that when Jeff Ashton was talking about Caylee's killer putting the duct tape over her mouth...one...piece ....at ....a.......time. It was during a hearing....it is very real!!


Thanks Sunny.... I thought it was real, but it was like 4a.m. when I found it and wasn't sure if I was thinking right or not..... I am really losing alot of sleep over trying to keep up with everything and work....stupid slore Casey...

I saw you had a late night!  LOL   I, like you, hope to hear that many times from her during the trial.....MAKE THEM STOP and her attorney(s) saying I/WE CAN'T!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


LOL... isn't it great! They can't make them stop and she has to sit and listen to them.... I love it and hope to hear it many more times!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:04:40 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ

This confirmed to me there is something not right about Lee....what brother would mouth I Love You to his sister who has accused him of sexual abuse? A normal reaction would be to be pizzed at her....Lee is not normal IMO....I am not saying he did anything to KC or helped her do anything with Caylee's body.....but there is something about him that is just 'off.'


Same for me....and LDB really put him in his place, in her calm manner.... ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:07:51 PM
I have no clue what it is, but my teenagers are watching something on HLN about the case...FYI


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:10:45 PM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

Thanks Raven.  This is driving me absolutely bat crazy and it is annoying me that this jury is so blind to all of this gunk.

I don't know why the state is not pounding home certain facts, other than Mr. George did most of the friend's testimony, and he is very laid back and as I have said before, I feel, just doing his job, but is really not that all interested in the results, other than what an acquittal would like like under his command.  I am hoping, where it really counts, that Linda or Jeff will do those witnesses. 

Zoo.....how can you or any of us say the jury is 'blind' to anything??  We have no idea what they are think...nor will we until they render a verdict. Mr. George works with Jeff and Linda...they all go over the questions, plan what questions will be asked on who in what order.....the state will pound when it's time to pound....right now they are laying the ground work...brick by brick....he may not be as dynamic as Jeff nor as likable as Linda.....but he knows what he is supposed to do.....have no doubt...he cares....IIRC he has prosecuted many sexual abuse cases.....oh yes...he cares!!
sending zoo a big hug!! justice will prevail.. our faith will waver many times before this is over.. but brick by brick the state will come through!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:12:00 PM
I have no clue what it is, but my teenagers are watching something on HLN about the case...FYI
HLN recap of opening statements.. since its a holiday ... they played the opening statements... which is good for those that hadnt seen it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:14:05 PM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

Thanks Raven.  This is driving me absolutely bat crazy and it is annoying me that this jury is so blind to all of this gunk.

I don't know why the state is not pounding home certain facts, other than Mr. George did most of the friend's testimony, and he is very laid back and as I have said before, I feel, just doing his job, but is really not that all interested in the results, other than what an acquittal would like like under his command.  I am hoping, where it really counts, that Linda or Jeff will do those witnesses. 

Zoo.....how can you or any of us say the jury is 'blind' to anything??  We have no idea what they are think...nor will we until they render a verdict. Mr. George works with Jeff and Linda...they all go over the questions, plan what questions will be asked on who in what order.....the state will pound when it's time to pound....right now they are laying the ground work...brick by brick....he may not be as dynamic as Jeff nor as likable as Linda.....but he knows what he is supposed to do.....have no doubt...he cares....IIRC he has prosecuted many sexual abuse cases.....oh yes...he cares!!
sending zoo a big hug!! justice will prevail.. our faith will waver many times before this is over.. but brick by brick the state will come through!!!
my mom has been watching linda in action for the first time.. and was so impressed with her presentation.. she said she was so good at her job..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:14:10 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-defense-prosecution-20110521,0,3574348.story

Experts predict prosecution, defense strategies for Anthony trial

 ::snipping2::


One of the more provocative takes on that approach comes from Mark NeJame, who at different times has represented George and Cindy Anthony and the search group that looked for Caylee's remains nearly three years ago.

NeJame envisions Casey Anthony taking the witness stand and explaining the "accidental death" of her daughter. She then might attribute her lies, her actions and her failure to report the child's death to fear of her father, according to the prominent Orlando attorney.

"They will develop a story in which she maintains that she lied and covered up an accidental death for fear of some sort of physical response from her father, as untruthful as that might be," NeJame said. "To me it's inescapable that that's the direction they're heading in. It's still fraught with land mines, but that's still their best defense."

It's pretty apparent the defense will direct blame at George Anthony, NeJame and others say, by reading the "tea leaves" of this case:

 ::snipping2::


oh I love this comment!!

"[Assistant State Attorney] Jeff Ashton would destroy her on the stand," Hornsby said. "You couldn't prepare Casey Anthony enough for Jeff Ashton."

 ::justice2NJ::

me too loca....when my friend first told me he thought she would take the stand.....I told him I thought he needed a long vacation ::MonkeyDevil:: Fortunately my friend has a great sense of humor and knows this case and patiently explained WHY.   Although I am NOT a fan of hornsboy, he does sometimes get it right.....this time he got it right.  KC has IMO outsmarted/lied to/convinced by her lies, her attorneys....but no way will she stand a chance with Jeff. I think the plan of who questions who is genius......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:15:08 PM
I want to hear Casey react like this again....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zbUtrqKI8&feature=related
What is she saying?

If this is for real, she says "MAKE HIM STOP"
hmmm....I didn't get that but okay.  I'm not sure anyone can really say for sure that it was KC's voice or what she was referring to.  Frankly, I'd have guessed she wanted Jose to stop playing footsie with her.  lol

It is VERY real....she said that when Jeff Ashton was talking about Caylee's killer putting the duct tape over her mouth...one...piece ....at ....a.......time. It was during a hearing....it is very real!!


Thanks Sunny.... I thought it was real, but it was like 4a.m. when I found it and wasn't sure if I was thinking right or not..... I am really losing alot of sleep over trying to keep up with everything and work....stupid slore Casey...

I saw you had a late night!  LOL   I, like you, hope to hear that many times from her during the trial.....MAKE THEM STOP and her attorney(s) saying I/WE CAN'T!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


LOL... isn't it great! They can't make them stop and she has to sit and listen to them.... I love it and hope to hear it many more times!!!!
me too it will be good to see her meltdown in front of the jury...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:15:10 PM
I have no clue what it is, but my teenagers are watching something on HLN about the case...FYI
HLN recap of opening statements.. since its a holiday ... they played the opening statements... which is good for those that hadnt seen it..


Nope... it is something else...they are at the tattoo parlor now...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 06:15:55 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 06:16:20 PM
Here is something to think about regarding Casey's calls on June 16th:   She calls her father, mother, friends....NO calls to a nanny.   If she was looking for a sitter she would have called her "Zanny the nanny" who according to Casey was with Caylee rather regularly & supposedly pretty available all the time or she would have asked any of her friends if they could watch Caylee, she did not.

It is my belief that the "flurry" of calls were not about getting a sitter but more to cover her tracks, even if she had killed Caylee unintentionally she would have NEVER been able to compose herself during her communications with Tony L much less go to Blockbuster & rent murder movies to spend the night boinking him into the next day as if nothing happened.  PTSD would not have set in that immediate nor would she have the presence of mind fading in and out of her "blocked memory"  to have to go back and continue covering her tracks over the course of a month including disposing of a body, especially her daughter.   Her claims that she feared her father or mother could be perceived as valid BUT once caught she would have spilled that it was an accident after she was arrested.   There is no way she has sat in jail for 3 years over an unintentional or accidental act without spilling it even if it meant facing child neglect or abuse charges with involuntary manslaughter....its a far cry different than felony murder, for that matter 3 years later she could have conceivably been getting out of jail already.   If the excuses dont fit, you must discount it.

Casey is too spiteful & vengeful when crossed, I believe she was fixated on her lies & stealing catching up to her.   The argument she had with Cindy the night of June 15th over stealing from her grandparents again most likely included Cindy discussing getting custody of Caylee if this horrendous behavior continued.   Caylee was getting old enough to tell her grandparents or anyone that "Zanny" didnt exist & repeat things that she has seen or heard.  I think Casey may have told Caylee that she was going to go visit someone named Zanny but she knew that sooner or later Caylee would be able to say that there was no Zanny.   It was closing in on Casey & she knew it.

I agree that nobody would sit in jail on a 1st degree murder charge wtih the possibility of life wo parole or DP if this were an accident.  Totally proposterous to think this, and IMO, that is probably one of the 1st things the Jury will think about when deliberating. 

Not only would she not have sat in jail..she would have jumped on any of the plea deals offered her by the State..if it was an accident that snowballed.

The basis of the plea deals she has been offerred, the last one as recently as 2 weeks ago right before the start of jury selection, is always that:
1. You must tell the truth
2. You must tell exactly what happended and what you did.

Now..If Baez opening statement was the truth and exactly what happened and what she did..why is she sitting in the courtroom waiting for a jury to decide if she is guilty of murder 1 and looking at a sentence of either LWOP or the DP?

Because she and Baez know that it is all lies and the State, nor Judge Perry would not have accepted that scenario as the whole truth and nothing but the truth..
So  Casey and Baez are rolling the dice hoping the jury ismore gullible then the State and the Judge Perry..and they are hoping they can keep enough damaging evidence out and enough reasonable doubt in the picture. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:16:42 PM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

Thanks Raven.  This is driving me absolutely bat crazy and it is annoying me that this jury is so blind to all of this gunk.

I don't know why the state is not pounding home certain facts, other than Mr. George did most of the friend's testimony, and he is very laid back and as I have said before, I feel, just doing his job, but is really not that all interested in the results, other than what an acquittal would like like under his command.  I am hoping, where it really counts, that Linda or Jeff will do those witnesses. 

Zoo.....how can you or any of us say the jury is 'blind' to anything??  We have no idea what they are think...nor will we until they render a verdict. Mr. George works with Jeff and Linda...they all go over the questions, plan what questions will be asked on who in what order.....the state will pound when it's time to pound....right now they are laying the ground work...brick by brick....he may not be as dynamic as Jeff nor as likable as Linda.....but he knows what he is supposed to do.....have no doubt...he cares....IIRC he has prosecuted many sexual abuse cases.....oh yes...he cares!!
sending zoo a big hug!! justice will prevail.. our faith will waver many times before this is over.. but brick by brick the state will come through!!!
my mom has been watching linda in action for the first time.. and was so impressed with her presentation.. she said she was so good at her job..

She does not look old enough to have been at her job for 20 years....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: ISpy on May 30, 2011, 06:16:45 PM
Still trying to catch up! Will have to try later-I've got a family function to attend.  Check you all later!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-defense-prosecution-20110521,0,3574348.story

Experts predict prosecution, defense strategies for Anthony trial

 ::snipping2::


One of the more provocative takes on that approach comes from Mark NeJame, who at different times has represented George and Cindy Anthony and the search group that looked for Caylee's remains nearly three years ago.

NeJame envisions Casey Anthony taking the witness stand and explaining the "accidental death" of her daughter. She then might attribute her lies, her actions and her failure to report the child's death to fear of her father, according to the prominent Orlando attorney.

"They will develop a story in which she maintains that she lied and covered up an accidental death for fear of some sort of physical response from her father, as untruthful as that might be," NeJame said. "To me it's inescapable that that's the direction they're heading in. It's still fraught with land mines, but that's still their best defense."

It's pretty apparent the defense will direct blame at George Anthony, NeJame and others say, by reading the "tea leaves" of this case:

 ::snipping2::


oh I love this comment!!

"[Assistant State Attorney] Jeff Ashton would destroy her on the stand," Hornsby said. "You couldn't prepare Casey Anthony enough for Jeff Ashton."

 ::justice2NJ::

me too loca....when my friend first told me he thought she would take the stand.....I told him I thought he needed a long vacation ::MonkeyDevil:: Fortunately my friend has a great sense of humor and knows this case and patiently explained WHY.   Although I am NOT a fan of hornsboy, he does sometimes get it right.....this time he got it right.  KC has IMO outsmarted/lied to/convinced by her lies, her attorneys....but no way will she stand a chance with Jeff. I think the plan of who questions who is genius......
yeah I am not a hornsby fan! but love the comment he made!! jeff and the state are good at their job!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2011, 06:17:17 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ

This confirmed to me there is something not right about Lee....what brother would mouth I Love You to his sister who has accused him of sexual abuse? A normal reaction would be to be pizzed at her....Lee is not normal IMO....I am not saying he did anything to KC or helped her do anything with Caylee's body.....but there is something about him that is just 'off.'

Not to mention his "CMA" speech/rant at the memorial.

I am seriously wondering how he will testify.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:18:09 PM
Zoo I do understand how you feel. Ive talked to two friends who do not know much about the case and are watching the trial.  One thinks George really seems like he is lying on the stand and if he is lying about this he could be lying about the abuse.  The other isnt sure.  Since neither really know much about Casey they are wanting to believe something tramatic happened to her to be able to be so cold hearted and live the beautiful life immediately after Caylees death.  It may be that people just find it too hard to believe that people can be pure evil and be born that way.

One thing that is bothering me is that the prosecution isnt stressing important facts.  For example Maria Tish claims they were in Caseys car after the 16th of June (when Caylee should have been decomposing) and didnt smell anything. Well that event actually happened on June 4th according to AL as they were going to a party for Troy Brown.  WHY didnt the prosecution stress this more.  The THs didnt even pick up on this as they are still asking how come Maria and Clint didnt smell anything when they were in Caseys car!!!!  This is so important that I cant believe it wasnt asked of Maria --- If AL should testify that the date was June 4th as it was a party for Troy Brown would that refresh your memory on when this ride actually took place?.....and also stress when Al was testifying to it if MT testified this ride occured after June 16th would that mean she was mistaken on the date?   I really hope the jury was paying a lot more attention than the talking heads! 

Thanks Raven.  This is driving me absolutely bat crazy and it is annoying me that this jury is so blind to all of this gunk.

I don't know why the state is not pounding home certain facts, other than Mr. George did most of the friend's testimony, and he is very laid back and as I have said before, I feel, just doing his job, but is really not that all interested in the results, other than what an acquittal would like like under his command.  I am hoping, where it really counts, that Linda or Jeff will do those witnesses. 

Zoo.....how can you or any of us say the jury is 'blind' to anything??  We have no idea what they are think...nor will we until they render a verdict. Mr. George works with Jeff and Linda...they all go over the questions, plan what questions will be asked on who in what order.....the state will pound when it's time to pound....right now they are laying the ground work...brick by brick....he may not be as dynamic as Jeff nor as likable as Linda.....but he knows what he is supposed to do.....have no doubt...he cares....IIRC he has prosecuted many sexual abuse cases.....oh yes...he cares!!
sending zoo a big hug!! justice will prevail.. our faith will waver many times before this is over.. but brick by brick the state will come through!!!
my mom has been watching linda in action for the first time.. and was so impressed with her presentation.. she said she was so good at her job..

She does not look old enough to have been at her job for 20 years....

no she doesnt! she will make baez look like the clown that he is.. that goes for jeff too !! this team is no joke!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:18:38 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ

This confirmed to me there is something not right about Lee....what brother would mouth I Love You to his sister who has accused him of sexual abuse? A normal reaction would be to be pizzed at her....Lee is not normal IMO....I am not saying he did anything to KC or helped her do anything with Caylee's body.....but there is something about him that is just 'off.'


Same for me....and LDB really put him in his place, in her calm manner.... ::MonkeyCheer4::

Again, genius....she made sure everyone who might have doubted what they saw....would know what they thought they saw...they did see! ::MonkeyJnBox::...just something not right about him....the kissing his wrist, the CMA, the I love you to his accuser.....and let's not forget the big guy who couldn't bend a piece of cardboard and threw out a dog's water.....NOT NORMAL!!!  His attorney said he told the truth.....why did he NEED use immunity to tell the truth is what I want to know!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:19:18 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ

This confirmed to me there is something not right about Lee....what brother would mouth I Love You to his sister who has accused him of sexual abuse? A normal reaction would be to be pizzed at her....Lee is not normal IMO....I am not saying he did anything to KC or helped her do anything with Caylee's body.....but there is something about him that is just 'off.'

Not to mention his "CMA" speech/rant at the memorial.

I am seriously wondering how he will testify.


Me too Brandi.... he REALLY IS a wildcard...a loose cannon...whatever...one fry short of a happy meal... I don't know....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:19:47 PM
I have no clue what it is, but my teenagers are watching something on HLN about the case...FYI

It's baseball and BBQ here....I would be taking my life y hands if I even suggested changing the station for a nono second......let us know if you find out please


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 06:20:54 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.



::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:22:46 PM
I have no clue what it is, but my teenagers are watching something on HLN about the case...FYI

It's baseball and BBQ here....I would be taking my life y hands if I even suggested changing the station for a nono second......let us know if you find out please


Prime news special....?Sounds like they are going back and forth with bits of opening statements and then back to following the timeline... I just saw a receipt and they said and she bought herself some little panties to wear hahaha....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2011, 06:23:10 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:24:25 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ

This confirmed to me there is something not right about Lee....what brother would mouth I Love You to his sister who has accused him of sexual abuse? A normal reaction would be to be pizzed at her....Lee is not normal IMO....I am not saying he did anything to KC or helped her do anything with Caylee's body.....but there is something about him that is just 'off.'


Same for me....and LDB really put him in his place, in her calm manner.... ::MonkeyCheer4::

Again, genius....she made sure everyone who might have doubted what they saw....would know what they thought they saw...they did see! ::MonkeyJnBox::...just something not right about him....the kissing his wrist, the CMA, the I love you to his accuser.....and let's not forget the big guy who couldn't bend a piece of cardboard and threw out a dog's water.....NOT NORMAL!!!  His attorney said he told the truth.....why did he NEED use immunity to tell the truth is what I want to know!!


OMG!!!! I had totally forgotten about the dogs water!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 06:24:45 PM
VIDEO REPORT: Casey's Brother Files Motion http://www.wftv.com/video/28074771/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 30, 2011, 06:25:37 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.




I never knew Lippmann was his attorney, too.
Being that Cindy has finally seen the light, I'm not really worried about Lee.
I'm just surprised he's willing t take all that time off from work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I think so too.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:26:27 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

At this point I think it might be a good idea....he needs to hear the truth from everyone....the real truth, not KC's truth.....on the other hand....he is not normal..so KC's truth (lies) may seem perfectly logical and real to him.....kinda scary....I just hope he remembers he got use immunity for the truth and if he lies on the stand and states anything other than what he said in his depo, he voids the use immunity and it will be game on.....and his ass will be in jail....I have no doubt about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 06:26:54 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.



::MonkeyBike::


You know Baez will be whining about this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 06:27:02 PM
Casey wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit her on the a$$.

How many people believe she actually told the truth to Baez?

I don't.

Knowing your client is really guilty affects your ability to represent your client to the best of your ability sub-conciously.

I think a lot of people view him as a scum, but most people don't care for defense attorney's anyway- unless of course you need one.

I think Baez has been frustrated with Casey all along, trying to put on a unified front to the public.

He knows what the facts are, I believe he's just trying to level those facts with something sensational to keep Casey from getting the needle.

He could have gone with an accident long ago.   He could go with an accident now, maybe even put suspicion on Roy Kronk (albeit ridiculous) BUT to put forward false allegations of sexual molestation knowing his client didnt even mention her father other than a "maybe" in a jail letter...that makes him scum.   The moment he knew Casey was lying to him he should have begged for a plea, he didnt & why didnt he, because he wants the sensationalism of this case but unfortunately for him any number of actions will in all likelihood cost him being disbarred rather than him benefiting from it.

The testimony so far as we know it is that Tony L stated that Casey did not accuse her father of sexually molesting her...she did make a half-baked accusation regarding her brother.   Casey's jail letter to her jail mate mentions a similar but more vague story regarding her brother with a mention of "maybe" her father too.   Its an obvious set up for her defense & a rather weak one at that.  To our knowledge Jesse was told a similar story regarding her brother, I dont recall any mention of her father to him, a proffer will happen when Jesse testifies as it occurred with Tony L.   If Jesse states the same as Tony, when and if Casey takes the stand she is immediately impeached if she puts the allegation forward with their testimony.

During her jail visits Casey tells her parents that they are the best grandparents Caylee could have, she further tells her father personally that he is the greatest father she has ever met & she means it from the heart.  When she was offered to talk to one of her parents privately in jail, she chose her father, it doesnt matter that it didnt take place.  This too goes against any allegation she makes now that her father molested her.

According to others, George confronted Casey when she was out of jail on bond.   He was witnessed stating that he was tired of living this lie & was insisting on Casey telling him where Caylee was.   If George took part in any cover up why would he confront Casey with people to witness it not knowing what Casey or even Cindy would say to refute it?   Why didnt Casey say right then and there "you know darn well what happened," she didnt.

This defense team should know that this is far from enough to hang their hats on, the jury will see that this is a desperate attempt to shift blame & make her appear as a victim.  The jury will put themselves in George's shoes & they will see it as despicable if they believe she is flat out lying.  It may not fall into the category of an aggravating factor to the murder but it will be in the back of their minds as they deliberate.   The defense is attempting to conduct a trial within a trial, it didnt work for the Menendez brothers & it wont work for Casey.  I do not even think that will be the determining factor whether she receives the DP versus LWOP.   What I am disheartened to see is just how many people are buying into any of this crapola.   You dont have to be a fan of the Anthonys or condone any of their own behavior previous to trial to not separate this wild & horrendous allegation from the truth.   I believe they should be held accountable for all of their own wrong doings but no one deserves to be stabbed in the heart the way this Satan's spawn is attempting to do & only proves how spiteful & venomous Casey is.   Casey is a monster & Im not fooled by her tears or her lies.

Since Tony's testimony about the "secret" was proffered..the jury has not heard that yet right?

Has the judge decided if this testimony can be heard by the jury?

If not, then I doubt they will allow Jesse to testify to that either?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:28:06 PM
Tim Miller on now.... telling about how it was like nothing he had ever worked on before....talking about Casey's big smiles and bopping around the house ....one of Georges friends said George knows the answers are in that bedroom and that bitch wont talk...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 06:29:36 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/2-16-10e.jpg)

Blonde - TY

I was just remember that a color photo showed the light brown liquid in the syringe (but didn't find a picture of it).


the needle is missing the ... vitta bella! engraved  on it

Looking at this closeup of the needle, if that needle is used (and it appears to be), if there was in injection: there should be skin cells on the needle/in the fluid in the cap and there should also be blood cells from the injection site. If the needle was used to inject anything into a hole in the duct tape, there may be duct tape adhesive residue on the needle, or compounds from the adhesive in the fluid in the cap. JMO

I went through ten years of infertility treatments & self injected thousands of needles of meds in my stomach & thighs.  THAT looks like a large gauge needle and would definitely have some blood cells from the injection site - not to mention hurt like you know what to a 3 year old!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 30, 2011, 06:29:40 PM
what did he get immunity for? and what does that intail? i know i should know this but i don't. and so embarrassed to have to ask..but you don't know unless you ask..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:30:25 PM
Has anyone ever said whether the syringe had a needle attached?  Or just the syringe itself?
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Caylee%20Anthony%20%20-FL-/Evidence/2-16-10e.jpg)

Blonde - TY

I was just remember that a color photo showed the light brown liquid in the syringe (but didn't find a picture of it).


the needle is missing the ... vitta bella! engraved  on it

Looking at this closeup of the needle, if that needle is used (and it appears to be), if there was in injection: there should be skin cells on the needle/in the fluid in the cap and there should also be blood cells from the injection site. If the needle was used to inject anything into a hole in the duct tape, there may be duct tape adhesive residue on the needle, or compounds from the adhesive in the fluid in the cap. JMO

I went through ten years of infertility treatments & self injected thousands of needles of meds in my stomach & thighs.  THAT looks like a large gauge needle and would definitely have some blood cells from the injection site - not to mention hurt like you know what to a 3 year old!


Same here Beth....and I agree!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:32:03 PM
OK.... they just said .... we will return to the Casey Anthony Murder Trial on HLN .... I actually believe this is something I have never seen.... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:32:09 PM
Here is something to think about regarding Casey's calls on June 16th:   She calls her father, mother, friends....NO calls to a nanny.   If she was looking for a sitter she would have called her "Zanny the nanny" who according to Casey was with Caylee rather regularly & supposedly pretty available all the time or she would have asked any of her friends if they could watch Caylee, she did not.

It is my belief that the "flurry" of calls were not about getting a sitter but more to cover her tracks, even if she had killed Caylee unintentionally she would have NEVER been able to compose herself during her communications with Tony L much less go to Blockbuster & rent murder movies to spend the night boinking him into the next day as if nothing happened.  PTSD would not have set in that immediate nor would she have the presence of mind fading in and out of her "blocked memory"  to have to go back and continue covering her tracks over the course of a month including disposing of a body, especially her daughter.   Her claims that she feared her father or mother could be perceived as valid BUT once caught she would have spilled that it was an accident after she was arrested.   There is no way she has sat in jail for 3 years over an unintentional or accidental act without spilling it even if it meant facing child neglect or abuse charges with involuntary manslaughter....its a far cry different than felony murder, for that matter 3 years later she could have conceivably been getting out of jail already.   If the excuses dont fit, you must discount it.

Casey is too spiteful & vengeful when crossed, I believe she was fixated on her lies & stealing catching up to her.   The argument she had with Cindy the night of June 15th over stealing from her grandparents again most likely included Cindy discussing getting custody of Caylee if this horrendous behavior continued.   Caylee was getting old enough to tell her grandparents or anyone that "Zanny" didnt exist & repeat things that she has seen or heard.  I think Casey may have told Caylee that she was going to go visit someone named Zanny but she knew that sooner or later Caylee would be able to say that there was no Zanny.   It was closing in on Casey & she knew it.

I agree that nobody would sit in jail on a 1st degree murder charge wtih the possibility of life wo parole or DP if this were an accident.  Totally proposterous to think this, and IMO, that is probably one of the 1st things the Jury will think about when deliberating. 

Not only would she not have sat in jail..she would have jumped on any of the plea deals offered her by the State..if it was an accident that snowballed.

The basis of the plea deals she has been offerred, the last one as recently as 2 weeks ago right before the start of jury selection, is always that:
1. You must tell the truth
2. You must tell exactly what happended and what you did.

Now..If Baez opening statement was the truth and exactly what happened and what she did..why is she sitting in the courtroom waiting for a jury to decide if she is guilty of murder 1 and looking at a sentence of either LWOP or the DP?

Because she and Baez know that it is all lies and the State, nor Judge Perry would not have accepted that scenario as the whole truth and nothing but the truth..
So  Casey and Baez are rolling the dice hoping the jury ismore gullible then the State and the Judge Perry..and they are hoping they can keep enough damaging evidence out and enough reasonable doubt in the picture. 

GDD, I believe it has been determined that she was NOT offered a deal before the trial started....the people talking about the plea deal was in fact talking about one offered (and I am not sure it was ever confirmed) very early on. On the neglect of a child charges....long before Caylee's remains were found....I believe that was the one and only offer every given


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Buckeye on May 30, 2011, 06:32:22 PM
Looking over the map, I can't help but wonder why this particular dump site for Caylee's remains.

(I've understood this area was used by the family to bury family pets.)

If Casey was trying to get someone to believe her story of a kidnapping,
why would she choose this site? 

Looking at the map, Suburban Drive seems to be one the main roads into this residential area.
 
I would assume it had a good amount of traffic which could become potential witnesses of seeing Casey's vehicle pulled off the road while she dumped the body.

Further up Suburban Drive was just as remote-



This place was what KC knew.

The gas can/George/trunk of the car thing - where KC ran past George to get the cans and shove them at him - IMO - was to keep him from the trunk so as not to see Caylee in the trunk...it scared KC and she jumped in the car and drove down the street and around the corner and tossed KC into the swamp. 

Evidence will come out proving that KC's car and turpenes on it - DNA analysis puts those turpenes coming from specific plants at the swamp site.  These turpenes do not fly through the air.  They are emitted when brushed against; therefore, KC's car had to be off the road, on the area just above the swamp area.

A "minor" witness saw a white car pulled into that area "during the day".  Never been much in the press about it because the female was a "minor".  I hope this comes out in court.

Anyrate, I'm thinking that KC got flustered because George almost caught her with Caylee in the car so she dumps her at the first place she could....literally. 


I didn't know about a minor witness to that.  Interesting.  Do you have a link where I can read about that?  TIA

I agree with your last statement also.  Suburban Dr. would only be heavily traveled at the beginning and end of school, for the most part, as there are no homes, only the school down at the end of the dead end.  I was there about 4:00pm on my visit and only one car came by from the school. No one drove onto HopeSpring or the other road that leads into the subdivision off of Suburban.  This is why I think Caylee was so close to the road, it was a quick dump for sure, imo.   

 ::snipping2::

Carolyn and Bill Todd told us of an incident on Saturday November 8th, 2008 where Bill Todd believes James Hoover came to the Equusearch command post and provided a tip. Bill Todd was working alongside Brett Churchill under the debrief area tent at the time James Hoover approached. Bill Todd recalled this particular incident only after the remains of Caylee Anthony were recovered and he saw James Hoover on television.

According to Bill Todd, James Hoover came to the command post and told him he had spoken with a young female in the Hopespring neighborhood who indicated she had seen Casey Anthony's car on Suburban Drive prior to her first arrest in July of 2008. The young female told James Hoover the car was backed up to the trail at the dead end Suburban Drive near the school. James Hoover told Bill Todd he (Hoover) was working for the Anthony family at the time and if they learned he was talking to Equusearch he may be fired.

Bill Todd indicated he wrote this down on the debrief form he completed for James Hoover then gave the form to volunteer Bill Fitzgerald. He doesn't know what happened to it afterwards. After the remains were located, Carolyn Todd spoke with Jamie Copenhaver and Bill Fitzgerald about this encounter with James Hoover. After searching for this form, they told her the original form could not be found and they asked for Bill Todd to send a fax recounting the incident involving James Hoover so they could give the information to Sergeant John Allen. The Todd's provided me with a copy of the fax she sent to Tim Miller on January 11th, 2009.

 ::snipping2::   :smt102

http://media2.myfoxorlando.com/documents/032310-anthony1.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 06:32:58 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 06:33:21 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.




So could the entire Lippman thing for 8:30am tomorrow morning be the Lee Anthony request?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:33:43 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ

This confirmed to me there is something not right about Lee....what brother would mouth I Love You to his sister who has accused him of sexual abuse? A normal reaction would be to be pizzed at her....Lee is not normal IMO....I am not saying he did anything to KC or helped her do anything with Caylee's body.....but there is something about him that is just 'off.'

Not to mention his "CMA" speech/rant at the memorial.

I am seriously wondering how he will testify.

me too brandi....if he deviates one inch from his depo I hope they throw his butt in jail immediately


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:34:08 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!


No laughing.... Inmate Casey Anthony....ICA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 06:34:44 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!

I wondered myself but I believe it is:

INMATE CASEY ANTHONY




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:34:50 PM
doesn't mason realize that this is a train wreck!! why would he be a part of this circus atmosphere! its not helping his career !! I do not get it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:35:24 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.




So could the entire Lippman thing for 8:30am tomorrow morning be the Lee Anthony request?


Sounds like it klaas.....I am sorry, but everytime I hear Jose yelling "look what you"ve done" in his opening statement I have to laugh....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.




Thanks pharlap.

I was so hoping that Lippman's motion was pertaining to the defence's strategic effort to provoke a reasonable doubt consideration in jury deliberations.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
I have no clue what it is, but my teenagers are watching something on HLN about the case...FYI

It's baseball and BBQ here....I would be taking my life y hands if I even suggested changing the station for a nono second......let us know if you find out please


Prime news special....?Sounds like they are going back and forth with bits of opening statements and then back to following the timeline... I just saw a receipt and they said and she bought herself some little panties to wear hahaha....

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: she is wearing hail issued granny panties now.....JUSTICE!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 06:35:58 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!


No laughing.... Inmate Casey Anthony....ICA

thanks!  It was driving me bonkers!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:36:48 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!

I wondered myself but I believe it is:

INMATE CASEY ANTHONY



BETH
Your not alone. Lol lmao I used to do the same because I was too embarassed to ask, finaly I had to ask cuz I couldnt find the answer anywhere else.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:37:04 PM
I wonder if we will get a repeat of this when Lee testifies? I love LDB's response......

http://youtu.be/oj7XxEyE3HQ

This confirmed to me there is something not right about Lee....what brother would mouth I Love You to his sister who has accused him of sexual abuse? A normal reaction would be to be pizzed at her....Lee is not normal IMO....I am not saying he did anything to KC or helped her do anything with Caylee's body.....but there is something about him that is just 'off.'

Not to mention his "CMA" speech/rant at the memorial.

I am seriously wondering how he will testify.

me too brandi....if he deviates one inch from his depo I hope they throw his butt in jail immediately


Yep.... do not pass go....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 30, 2011, 06:37:18 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!

I wondered myself but I believe it is:

INMATE CASEY ANTHONY

thanks!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:37:39 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:38:02 PM
I have no clue what it is, but my teenagers are watching something on HLN about the case...FYI

It's baseball and BBQ here....I would be taking my life y hands if I even suggested changing the station for a nono second......let us know if you find out please


Prime news special....?Sounds like they are going back and forth with bits of opening statements and then back to following the timeline... I just saw a receipt and they said and she bought herself some little panties to wear hahaha....

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: she is wearing hail issued granny panties now.....JUSTICE!!!


Wonder how she is rolling those suckers up so they will be sexy.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 06:38:11 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!

I wondered myself but I believe it is:

INMATE CASEY ANTHONY




I can think of another word.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:38:23 PM
VIDEO REPORT: Casey's Brother Files Motion http://www.wftv.com/video/28074771/index.html

 ::HelloKitty:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 06:38:34 PM
Was it ever determined what the stains in Caylee's car seat were of?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post #16

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.20

Posts #24, #25


I believe they were "decomp" stains


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 30, 2011, 06:39:06 PM
what did he get immunity for? and what does that intail? i know i should know this but i don't. and so embarrassed to have to ask..but you don't know unless you ask :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:40:10 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.




Thanks pharlap.

I was so hoping that Lippman's motion was pertaining to the defence's strategic effort to provoke a reasonable doubt consideration in jury deliberations.

Janet


so is this what tuesday is about!! Mr. Lippman is representing lee also!! wow its over for casey! he will mentor lee as he did the anthonys.. I think I am liking the lippman.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 06:40:51 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.20

Post 34.  What is that huge stain on the left side of whatever that thing is?

That thing is from the trunk of the car and that stain is part of the decomp stain



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:41:07 PM
what did he get immunity for? and what does that intail? i know i should know this but i don't. and so embarrassed to have to ask..but you don't know unless you ask :)
naw I wanna know too !!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 06:41:36 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post 19.  Who is that baby all curled up like that? 

That baby is an "example" of a child Caylee's size


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:41:55 PM
Tim Miller on now.... telling about how it was like nothing he had ever worked on before....talking about Casey's big smiles and bopping around the house ....one of Georges friends said George knows the answers are in that bedroom and that bitch wont talk...

thanks cubbee....I am sure I have seen the interview you are referencing..this was the one and only time/case I ever heard Tim say he was sorry he did a search.....the A's cost Tim and TES a huge amount of money....time and money that could have been used to help families that really needed and wanted his help ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:43:51 PM
I have no clue what it is, but my teenagers are watching something on HLN about the case...FYI

It's baseball and BBQ here....I would be taking my life y hands if I even suggested changing the station for a nono second......let us know if you find out please
Are her chonies stamped with the orange county jail logo ::piggy::


Prime news special....?Sounds like they are going back and forth with bits of opening statements and then back to following the timeline... I just saw a receipt and they said and she bought herself some little panties to wear hahaha....

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: she is wearing hail issued granny panties now.....JUSTICE!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 06:43:59 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:44:00 PM
Tim Miller on now.... telling about how it was like nothing he had ever worked on before....talking about Casey's big smiles and bopping around the house ....one of Georges friends said George knows the answers are in that bedroom and that bitch wont talk...

thanks cubbee....I am sure I have seen the interview you are referencing..this was the one and only time/case I ever heard Tim say he was sorry he did a search.....the A's cost Tim and TES a huge amount of money....time and money that could have been used to help families that really needed and wanted his help ::MonkeyMad::


It seems to have some new stuff mixed in with old stuff... I can't believe these kids have gotten interested in this trial....btw...they all say...Bitch killed her baby...a couple say...too bad she's hot...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 06:44:02 PM
Frantically scrambling to catch up here. LOL! Reading over at Blink On Crime earlier when a poster (NaNa) made me think of this.  The three pieces of duct tape appear to be almost identical in length (http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html  (http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html) ), even after weathering the swamp and the Florida sun.  Anyone got a link that details how long those pieces were?  I couldn't find one.  TIA
IMO, Caylee was either asleep or unconscious when Casey cut that duct tape.  I say cut because it's a little difficult to tear industrial duct tape to pretty exact lengths. A sleeping Caylee would have struggled against the tape, preventing a tight "seal" if you will against the back of the skull.  Three lengths of tape, tightly sealed says unconscious to me.  JMO

I remember some: the longest piece is about 9" and one is about 7 or 7 1/2" and I don't remember the third.  The evidence photos and test results released by FBI give the measurements.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:45:16 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!

Inmate Casey Anthony...IIRC it started on another site to signify the difference on the initial of Cindy and Caylee....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:45:18 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?


I am pretty sure that is when they retained him klaas.... it is news to me that he is representing Lee as well...hopefully he can get Lee under control ....guess we will see...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:45:32 PM
Tim Miller on now.... telling about how it was like nothing he had ever worked on before....talking about Casey's big smiles and bopping around the house ....one of Georges friends said George knows the answers are in that bedroom and that bitch wont talk...

thanks cubbee....I am sure I have seen the interview you are referencing..this was the one and only time/case I ever heard Tim say he was sorry he did a search.....the A's cost Tim and TES a huge amount of money....time and money that could have been used to help families that really needed and wanted his help ::MonkeyMad::
exactly and if the jury hears that from tim miller... they are going to wonder if he was part of the conspiracy!! why would he say that!!  so  will jim from ohio testify??  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on May 30, 2011, 06:46:16 PM
VIDEO REPORT: Casey's Brother Files Motion http://www.wftv.com/video/28074771/index.html

 ::HelloKitty:: ::MonkeyKiss::
Hey Sunny!  ::HelloKitty::
Can't wait to hear Baez's objection to this,and I am not sure about Lee.
I hope when he finally does testify,that he remembers who the victim in this case is.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 06:46:28 PM
Tim Miller on now.... telling about how it was like nothing he had ever worked on before....talking about Casey's big smiles and bopping around the house ....one of Georges friends said George knows the answers are in that bedroom and that bitch wont talk...

thanks cubbee....I am sure I have seen the interview you are referencing..this was the one and only time/case I ever heard Tim say he was sorry he did a search.....the A's cost Tim and TES a huge amount of money....time and money that could have been used to help families that really needed and wanted his help ::MonkeyMad::
exactly and if the jury hears that from tim miller... they are going to wonder if he was part of the conspiracy!! why would he say that!!  so  will jim from ohio testify??  
george was not part of the consipracy or involved with caylees death.. to many things will prove it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 30, 2011, 06:46:41 PM
Maybe someone will let us know loca :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:46:56 PM
please don't laugh (too hard) when you read this

what is the "I" in ICA?  I'm sorry I've searched everywhere and can't find the answer.  Is it inmate???  thx a bunch!

Inmate Casey Anthony...IIRC it started on another site to signify the difference on the initial of Cindy and Caylee.... Casey....sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:48:47 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.



::MonkeyBike::


You know Baez will be whining about this.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 06:50:31 PM
2.  Why did she change her clothing?

A.  Considering a deceased Caylee was discovered wearing difference clothes than George described when Casey and his granddaughter left the home on June 16th ... could it be that vomit/body fluids were already escaping and had soiled Caylee's clothes when Casey discovered that Caylee was deceased.



HI TAMIKOSMOM!!

What did George state Caylee was wearing when Caylee was last seen by him?


Casey Anthony Trial Today
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
GEORGE ANTHONY ON THE STAND


<snipped>

George states he wakes up around 7am when Cindy has left or is going to work. He has coffee and spends time with Caylee.  He would help her to the BR and assist her with brushing he teeth. He would help her with breakfast. It was "a great morning' per George. Caylees favorite videos were 101 Dalmations and Lady in the Tramp. He recalls first seeing Casey around 10am.  He is not sure as he cherished "morning time" with Caylee.Casey left the house around  , he remembers watching the food channel, Caylee was wearing blue jeans and pink top, and Caylee said she was going to see Zanny when asked.

<snipped>

http://caseyanthonytrialtodayinreview.blogspot.com/2011/05/george-anthony-on-stand.html


Defense: Caylee drowned in her grandparents' pool
May 25, 2011 -- Updated 0159 GMT (0959 HKT
)

<snipped>

Baez also attempted to cast doubt on George Anthony's recall of what Caylee was wearing the day he last saw her, suggesting he would likely not have retained that detail as he didn't know it was the last time he would see her. George Anthony completed his testimony on Tuesday but could be recalled to the stand later.

<snipped

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/24/florida.casey.anthony.trial/index.html


Heart sticker, Pooh blanket, and clothing found with Caylee
January 21st, 2009 4:36 pm ET


<snipped>

Also found was a Winnie the Pooh blanket, a plastic toy, and clothing--a pair of white shorts and a size 3T shirt.  Cloth iron-on letters were also in the bag.

The clothing in the bag was not the same clothing George Anthony had described as Caylee wearing when he last saw her alive on June 16, 2008.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/heart-sticker-pooh-blanket-and-clothing-found-with-caylee


I have to be honest and say that George was very much lying to LE at that point and the entire family was in coverup mode.

I did not then 'when I first read George's "talks" with LE and the FBI..and I do not now, believe the description he gave was accurate.  I don't think the description of clothes she was wearing , nor the back pack she was suppose to have with her were correct.  I think that because a month had passed in truth George had no idea of what Caylee had on that particular morning.  It had been a month..and George did not know when they left that morning he would never see her again..so I doubt he memorized what she was wearing to know this a month later.  That's why you will not hear the State during this trial ask George much from those initial interviews.  They ask him how he remembers it now,,because now he is telling the truth.

Infact if you read through that very lenghty interview and then progress further, because there are literally pages of interviews all together in that section, there is a page where LE states in their report that they do not believe the A's are being open and honest with them.   Perfect example..oringinally Cindy couldn't pinpoint the date for LE of the pool ladder incident...but Mark Fuhrman asked the question a few days later and she didn't hesitate to give him the date.  Mark gave that info to LE.


I think that is the biggest thing that can hurt this case at this point is the fact that all the A's were in cover up mode and not honest or cooperative with LE.

I am hoping that George and Cindy got use immunity , as Lee seems to have..and I think then they maybe able to clear up some things.

I think that Dom Casey and Jim Hoover also got use immunity for their depos.

I think that because Dom Casey had worked for Baez first..he had some inkling from Baez of possibly where Caylee maybe ..he obviously was awfully close on the day he and Jim Hoover went looking for her.  I think the story in the Baez office early on was that this was an accident that snowballed, Casey panicked and left Caylee in a wooded area.
I think that lead to Dom and Jim being on Suburban and the A's new at that time Caylee was infact deceased, but thought it was an accident. The reason for Cindy's drugged State in the one morning show around the same time.  Dom didn't find the body..but just a few weeks later Roy Kronk did..and the rest is history.

Do I think anybody other then Casey did this..no.
But I think that the A's never thought things would take the nasty turn that they did in opening statements either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:51:17 PM
what did he get immunity for? and what does that intail? i know i should know this but i don't. and so embarrassed to have to ask..but you don't know unless you ask..

we don't know....use immunity means nothing he says can be used against him.....however if information comes via another source/event etc...that can be used against him.  don't be embarrassed about asking...there is so much to try to remember.....it takes a village ::MonkeyWink:: between all of us someone will have the answer


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:52:08 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.




So could the entire Lippman thing for 8:30am tomorrow morning be the Lee Anthony request?

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Babybear on May 30, 2011, 06:52:41 PM
Tim Miller on now.... telling about how it was like nothing he had ever worked on before....talking about Casey's big smiles and bopping around the house ....one of Georges friends said George knows the answers are in that bedroom and that bitch wont talk...

thanks cubbee....I am sure I have seen the interview you are referencing..this was the one and only time/case I ever heard Tim say he was sorry he did a search.....the A's cost Tim and TES a huge amount of money....time and money that could have been used to help families that really needed and wanted his help ::MonkeyMad::
\Hi Monkeys, Hi Sunny

Sunny, I'm just putting this here rather than bringing a post from way back, but thanks for asking your attorney friend the answer to the question about the opening statements.  Under those circumstances, I am even more impressed with the State being prepared for this unspeakable accusation.  Guess you had it "pegged" and I didn't.  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: akmom on May 30, 2011, 06:53:11 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.



::MonkeyBike::


You know Baez will be whining about this.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Ya know, if it wouldn't cause a mistrial, I'd pay to see Lee man up and punch Baez in the face.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 30, 2011, 06:53:12 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.




Thanks pharlap.

I was so hoping that Lippman's motion was pertaining to the defence's strategic effort to provoke a reasonable doubt consideration in jury deliberations.

Janet


so is this what tuesday is about!! Mr. Lippman is representing lee also!! wow its over for casey! he will mentor lee as he did the anthonys.. I think I am liking the lippman.
I'm liking the Lippmeister, too, Loca.  Whether it's the fact that the State finally put the hammer down,(sorry, Cindy,) and told the A's what was really going to happen to them or whether it's Lippman's Magic, they are at last understanding the gravity of their situation.  Protecting Casey is only going to destroy them. Nejame, Conway and Cindy's brother, all tried to tell them what was in their future, but their Magic 8 Ball was stuck permanently on
● Outlook good
but the real answer is
 Don't count on it
● My reply is no
● My sources say no
● Outlook not so good
About time, Cindy and George!  Yay, Lippman!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 30, 2011, 06:53:36 PM
Ty sunny. So does that mean if he says something that he knew about. He won't get in trouble?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:54:24 PM
Gypsy.....the Anthony's are a perfect example of the truth in " oh what a tangled web we weave...when first we practice to deceive"...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 06:58:03 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?

I think he was hire shortly after Brad Conway resigned

http://www.wesh.com/r/24767709/detail.html

Report: Cindy, George Anthony Hire New Lawyers
Casey Anthony's Parents Hire New Attorney After Brad Conway Resigns

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/24767709/detail.html#ixzz1NsZbIZFd
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 06:59:40 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?

I think he was hire shortly after Brad Conway resigned

http://www.wesh.com/r/24767709/detail.html

Report: Cindy, George Anthony Hire New Lawyers
Casey Anthony's Parents Hire New Attorney After Brad Conway Resigns

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/24767709/detail.html#ixzz1NsZbIZFd
 ::snipping2::


How many attorneys have the Anthony's been through now Sunny? It gives me a headache to try to keep up sometimes...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: monkalicious on May 30, 2011, 07:00:24 PM
Hi, Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty::
Just celebrated the Memorial Day with a cookout with family and visiting my mom at the nursing home.  It's going to be an interesting week.  I hope our jurors are well rested and entertained, and ready to put Casey under the jail, no, I'm sorry, to objectively listen to the evidence, and come to the conclusion any sane person would, that she is Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!! (Holiday wine kicking in now!   ::monkeywine2::)
See you all in the AM, ready to toast Caylee's Justice now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 07:03:40 PM
Tim Miller on now.... telling about how it was like nothing he had ever worked on before....talking about Casey's big smiles and bopping around the house ....one of Georges friends said George knows the answers are in that bedroom and that bitch wont talk...

thanks cubbee....I am sure I have seen the interview you are referencing..this was the one and only time/case I ever heard Tim say he was sorry he did a search.....the A's cost Tim and TES a huge amount of money....time and money that could have been used to help families that really needed and wanted his help ::MonkeyMad::


It seems to have some new stuff mixed in with old stuff... I can't believe these kids have gotten interested in this trial....btw...they all say...Bitch killed her baby...a couple say...too bad she's hot...

So has my husband who retired last month....he is first up in the morning and has the TV on waiting for IS to come on.....LOL....he, of course, knows about the case...knows Tim and Tim's involvement...but now he is really in to it....he has never seen a criminal trial. He is eager to get to the forensics too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 07:04:43 PM
george was not part of the consipracy or involved with caylees death.. to many things will prove it..

I do not think that George Anthony is connected to the events encompassing the actual death of his granddaughter or the disposal of her remains.  However ... in an attempt to protect Casey from the consequences of her actions ... George made the decision to further the "rotting pizza" and the "Caylee is alive" distractions.  This former cop knew from the moment he got whiff of that "smell of death" that his granddaughter was deceased.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:09:22 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400
she made some sense regarding holt! remember in a jailhouse video she said"she is close to holt"
maybe she got scared that after saying she was close to holt ! LE may look there! JMO

comment from Magpie:

Lee said in his civil deposition that he attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. Cindy said in her SAO depostion that Lee and Casey went to the Ninth Grade Center. She didn't mention the location, but I presume that both Lee and Casey attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. The address is 528 Huntington Ave. I googled and found out that there is a Holt Ave, and also a Holt Dr., close to the Ninth Grade Center. The distance is less than half a mile. The address of Rollins college is 1000 Holt Ave. It is less than a mile from the Ninth Grade Center. Rollins College is located in the historic, scenic area of Winter Park.

I heard that there are hidden pathways in the scenic area of Winter Park, and I read that there are streets lined with Camphor and Oak trees. According to Dr. Hall's October 2008 report, Cinnamon Camphor leaves and Oak twigs and leaves were in the plastic housing windshield of Casey's car. A Cinnamon Camphor leaf was under the right chassis behind the right front tire, and there were Cinnamon Camphor leaves in the spare tire well. I wonder if Casey disposed of Caylee's body in Winter Park, somewhere close to Holt Ave., at a specific place she had mentioned to Cindy that Lee would recognize as a place familiar to Casey and him. I wonder if Lee found Caylee's body and moved her to the wooded area off Suburban Dr. at some point.

On July 21, 2008, LE requested and obtained a court order authorizing the installation and use of mobile tracking device upon one or more vehicle operated by Casey, Cindy, George, Lee, and Tony Lazzaro. The order was good for 60 days. On October 7, 2008, a court order to extend the original order for another 60 days was obtained. Those were the only orders I recall seeing in the discovery documents, so I presume any mobile devices that had been installed were disabled between September 20 and October 7, 2008. I wonder if and when LE installed mobile tracking devices upon Cindy's, George's, and Lee's vehicles and if it was recorded that any of those vehicles were close to Holt Avenue in Winter Park during the time the devices were in use.[/quote]

I somehow missed that they had gone to Winter Park's 9th grade center. My bigger question would be why? That school is not only in a different district but in a different county. We do have magnet schools that offer high school students different study programs (i.e. one school is law, one sciences) but that would explain one of the Anthony's qualifying into the program not both. Can you direct me to any link that discusses why they went to a school for one year that is so far out of their territory. TYIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:10:28 PM
george was not part of the consipracy or involved with caylees death.. to many things will prove it..

I do not think that George Anthony is connected to the events encompassing the actual death of his granddaughter or the disposal of her remains.  However ... in an attempt to protect Casey from the consequences of her actions ... George made the decision to further the "rotting pizza" and the "Caylee is alive" distractions.  This former cop knew from the moment he got whiff of that "smell of death" that his granddaughter was deceased.

Janet


i agree and its coming back to bite him in the ass.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 07:11:21 PM
Listening to George's interview with the Sheriff:

My son is much more level-headed than my wife.

My wife and  separated in 2005.



 ::MonkeyMad::

George disgusts me!!  He is no prize.  He is a spineless wonder.  His words in the interview undermining Cindy was akin to the pot calling the kettle black.

Think about it.  As far as we know Cindy did not cheat on George.  As far as we know Cindy was not unemployed for years.  As far as we know Cindy did not lose thousands in online Gambling.  As far as we know Cindy did not attempt to take the suicide route in order to escape the nightmare encmpassing his granddaughter's disappearance.

Janet

+++++


A Tough Thanksgiving For Anthony Family
Thursday, November 27, 2008 – updated: 12:02 pm EST November 27, 2008


FAMILY TENSION

<snipped>

Casey's parents' financial problems almost shattered their marriage but ended up saving it because Cindy couldn't afford divorce. The investigation showed Cindy supported George for years.  He lost thousands of dollars in a U.K. lottery scam.

<snipped>

http://www.wftv.com/news/18159143/detail.html


I may not believe that George is involved in the actual events encompassing the death of Caylee or the disposal of her remains but ... his character is not above reproach.

I believe that Cindy is the glue that held that dysfunctional family together.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bikerbev on May 30, 2011, 07:13:46 PM
Where do you all watch the full epidsodes of the trial?  The reason I ask is because I think I watch the whole thing and then I see the trial on tv (the witnesses) and they are testifying to stuff I didn't see.  So where are the whole, total epsidoes.  I watch them on wftv, but I think they must cut stuff out.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:14:30 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18812469/index.html
At 3:17 Lee states that he went to Winter Park for 9th grade...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:15:02 PM
Where do you all watch the full epidsodes of the trial?  The reason I ask is because I think I watch the whole thing and then I see the trial on tv (the witnesses) and they are testifying to stuff I didn't see.  So where are the whole, total epsidoes.  I watch them on wftv, but I think they must cut stuff out.  Thanks.
wftv has all the links.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
And how will Baez explain his client saying "she's close to home" and again in another jail video, "she's close to HOLT".
 ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 30, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
LOCA THIS IS WHAT I FOUND.....

.January 16, 2009 • 9:00 am
.Lee Anthony Immunity?

CNN reports there’s a chance Casey’s brother Lee might get immunity. Lee’s attorney Thomas Luca is reportedly concerned his client could possibly face obstruction charges or aiding and abetting charges and is trying to seek a subpoena for Lee — which, in the state of Florida, grants you instant immunity.

“If he is given this immunity,” defense attorney Hugo Rodriguez told CNN’s Nancy Grace, “He has to take the stand in the murder trial. He cannot plead the Fifth. He has to get up there, tell his story, tell exactly what he knows. If Casey did give him inside information, he has to spill it all on the stand during that murder trial.”

Lee, if subpoenaed would only be offered what’s referred to as “use immunity” which means anything he says cannot be used against him in a subsequent prosecution. He could, however, still be tried with testimony from other witnesses. That’s why it’s rumored Lee’s attorney will want what’s called  “blanket immunity” or total immunity.
 ::snipping2::
Need to link back to articles, please.  Edit to add link I found: http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/lee-anthony-immunity/  Also, I snipped the article.  We can only post the link and partial article.  Thanks!  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: bikerbev on May 30, 2011, 07:19:14 PM
Where do you all watch the full epidsodes of the trial?  The reason I ask is because I think I watch the whole thing and then I see the trial on tv (the witnesses) and they are testifying to stuff I didn't see.  So where are the whole, total epsidoes.  I watch them on wftv, but I think they must cut stuff out.  Thanks.
wftv has all the links.
Thanks, loca


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 30, 2011, 07:20:21 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:21:16 PM
The almost seething anger that oozed from the Anthony's in prior hearings when they were questioned by LDB or JA was so uncomfortable for the court. I think it also made the Anthony's look like they were hiding something. Not the reaction that the Ants wanted people to feel. Now, they are cooperative and cordial to the State. The State is also going to be the ones to protect the Anthony's over the next several weeks while the defense continues to throw daggers at them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 30, 2011, 07:23:01 PM
Did lee or did lee not get immunity??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 07:25:04 PM

Casey Anthony Trial Today
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
GEORGE ANTHONY ON THE STAND


<snipped>

George states he wakes up around 7am when Cindy has left or is going to work. He has coffee and spends time with Caylee.  He would help her to the BR and assist her with brushing he teeth. He would help her with breakfast. It was "a great morning' per George. Caylees favorite videos were 101 Dalmations and Lady in the Tramp. He recalls first seeing Casey around 10am.  He is not sure as he cherished "morning time" with Caylee.Casey left the house around  , he remembers watching the food channel,  Caylee was wearing blue jeans and pink top , and Caylee said she was going to see Zanny when asked.

<snipped>

http://caseyanthonytrialtodayinreview.blogspot.com/2011/05/george-anthony-on-stand.html



Seems to me George would have remembered, since Casey was asleep, he assisted Caylee with brushing her teeth, helped her in the bathroom, fed her breakfast - he probably dressed her also.

I agree.

Janet

Really..you all have excellant memories because I can not remember what I wore myself one week ago today..nor what my grandchildren had on last week when they were here for a few days.

We are talking one month later here..not the next day..and he did not know the last time he saw her would be the last time forever.  So I truly doubt George did remember more then 30 days later what Caylee had on that particular day.  JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:27:27 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.
Don
i am still on the fence about cindy and george and lee. I do not believe george helped casey nor did he know! but they were so hateful and onerie to the state when questioned! they were all for casey at that time! they embelished alot of the truth.
than they find out casey was going to throw them to the dogs and they decided that it would be in their best interest to cooperate.

I realy think that in the past baez realy did a snow job and encouraged them to lie to help not his client but himself his image... he did this with the  suggestion that it was for casey!! than he began to alienate them from visiting casey!  because he knew at one time they wanted casey to get another atty!!

than recently when they were supposed to be sequestered!!  they got a revealation that something was not right! so they fought the sequestration and won! and here we are!!  now lee wants to be in the courtroom and I hope the judge allows it!! it may help the state! I pray.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:30:16 PM
Where do you all watch the full epidsodes of the trial?  The reason I ask is because I think I watch the whole thing and then I see the trial on tv (the witnesses) and they are testifying to stuff I didn't see.  So where are the whole, total epsidoes.  I watch them on wftv, but I think they must cut stuff out.  Thanks.
wftv has all the links.
Thanks, loca
welcome ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
VIDEO REPORT: Casey's Brother Files Motion http://www.wftv.com/video/28074771/index.html

 ::HelloKitty:: ::MonkeyKiss::
Hey Sunny!  ::HelloKitty::
Can't wait to hear Baez's objection to this,and I am not sure about Lee.
I hope when he finally does testify,that he remembers who the victim in this case is.  ::MonkeyAngel::

me too trim...it should be short and sweet.... ::monkeydenied::

It scares me a bit that he might still be drinking the KC koolaide and like you I hope he remember's Caylee is the victim.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:31:34 PM
LOCA THIS IS WHAT I FOUND.....

.January 16, 2009 • 9:00 am
.Lee Anthony Immunity?

CNN reports there’s a chance Casey’s brother Lee might get immunity. Lee’s attorney Thomas Luca is reportedly concerned his client could possibly face obstruction charges or aiding and abetting charges and is trying to seek a subpoena for Lee — which, in the state of Florida, grants you instant immunity.

“If he is given this immunity,” defense attorney Hugo Rodriguez told CNN’s Nancy Grace, “He has to take the stand in the murder trial. He cannot plead the Fifth. He has to get up there, tell his story, tell exactly what he knows. If Casey did give him inside information, he has to spill it all on the stand during that murder trial.”

Lee, if subpoenaed would only be offered what’s referred to as “use immunity” which means anything he says cannot be used against him in a subsequent prosecution. He could, however, still be tried with testimony from other witnesses. That’s why it’s rumored Lee’s attorney will want what’s called  “blanket immunity” or total immunity.

 ::snipping2::
Need to link back to articles, please.  Edit to add link I found: http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/lee-anthony-immunity/  Also, I snipped the article.  We can only post the link and partial article.  Thanks!  MB

I just pray he does what his parents have done... sway towards reality!! ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:32:24 PM
VIDEO REPORT: Casey's Brother Files Motion http://www.wftv.com/video/28074771/index.html

 ::HelloKitty:: ::MonkeyKiss::
Hey Sunny!  ::HelloKitty::
Can't wait to hear Baez's objection to this,and I am not sure about Lee.
I hope when he finally does testify,that he remembers who the victim in this case is.  ::MonkeyAngel::

me too trim...it should be short and sweet.... ::monkeydenied::

It scares me a bit that he might still be drinking the KC koolaide and like you I hope he remember's Caylee is the victim.....
sunny
I pray that he does not look at casey! like cindy and george did!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 07:35:11 PM
I'm watching Baez questioning Ricardo Morales about Casey and Caylee's relationship and it makes me so mad.  I don't think that Baez has any appreciation for how forgiving children are, especially in relation to their parents.  Even if Caylee hadn't been beaten there are children who have been and still cling to the parent that abuses them. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 30, 2011, 07:35:43 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.
Don
i am still on the fence about cindy and george and lee. I do not believe george helped casey nor did he know! but they were so hateful and onerie to the state when questioned! they were all for casey at that time! they embelished alot of the truth.
than they find out casey was going to throw them to the dogs and they decided that it would be in their best interest to cooperate.

I realy think that in the past baez realy did a snow job and encouraged them to lie to help not his client but himself his image... he did this with the  suggestion that it was for casey!! than he began to alienate them from visiting casey!  because he knew at one time they wanted casey to get another atty!!

than recently when they were supposed to be sequestered!!  they got a revealation that something was not right! so they fought the sequestration and won! and here we are!!  now lee wants to be in the courtroom and I hope the judge allows it!! it may help the state! I pray.

I hope that is all correct.  I'm still not convinced that Cindy will do the right thing.  I won't trust her at all unless she admits that she meant that 911 call.  If she again claims that it was just a "ploy" to get LE there sooner then all bets are off with me.   She already back peddled when she talked about the bear being missing.  First she said Casey knew she slept with it then seemed to realize what she said and changed the story.  I just can't make myself trust her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 07:36:48 PM
Tim Miller on now.... telling about how it was like nothing he had ever worked on before....talking about Casey's big smiles and bopping around the house ....one of Georges friends said George knows the answers are in that bedroom and that bitch wont talk...

thanks cubbee....I am sure I have seen the interview you are referencing..this was the one and only time/case I ever heard Tim say he was sorry he did a search.....the A's cost Tim and TES a huge amount of money....time and money that could have been used to help families that really needed and wanted his help ::MonkeyMad::
\Hi Monkeys, Hi Sunny

Sunny, I'm just putting this here rather than bringing a post from way back, but thanks for asking your attorney friend the answer to the question about the opening statements.  Under those circumstances, I am even more impressed with the State being prepared for this unspeakable accusation.  Guess you had it "pegged" and I didn't.  LOL
::HelloKitty::  BB!!  Glad I could be of help to get the correct answer for you... we hear so much from some of the TV lawyers and commentators and they sometimes get it wrong or confused.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:36:53 PM
omg  ::CowboySmiley::padilla is on saying that she would be effective on the stand..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 07:37:45 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.



::MonkeyBike::


You know Baez will be whining about this.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Ya know, if it wouldn't cause a mistrial, I'd pay to see Lee man up and punch Baez in the face.....

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 07:39:51 PM
BILL SHEAFFER: Preview Of Day 17 In Casey Trial

For tomorrow.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28075393/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:40:56 PM
jose better not write a check he cant cash! he better deliver.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 07:41:31 PM
BILL SHEAFFER: Preview Of Day 17 In Casey Trial

For tomorrow.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28075393/index.html

It's of the whole week, what's going to go on....
 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 07:43:13 PM
Ty sunny. So does that mean if he says something that he knew about. He won't get in trouble?

suppose they asked him of he took anything of KC's they he didn't turn over to them....some kind of evidence .....if he said yes, I took this and  burned it......they couldn't charge him on that statement of destroying evidence....but say Mallory said I was with Lee when he took ABC and was with him when he burned it...Mallory's statement might be used to charge him...this is pretty simplistic...but you  will get my meaning......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: luvmyboys on May 30, 2011, 07:43:34 PM
So did lee get immunity or not..and sorry if I was not soppose to put that up there like that. But the link would not work. I am referring to what I found out about lee and if he did get immunity or if he didn't. Sorry didn't know any other way to do it :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 07:44:35 PM
Here is something to think about regarding Casey's calls on June 16th:   She calls her father, mother, friends....NO calls to a nanny.   If she was looking for a sitter she would have called her "Zanny the nanny" who according to Casey was with Caylee rather regularly & supposedly pretty available all the time or she would have asked any of her friends if they could watch Caylee, she did not.

It is my belief that the "flurry" of calls were not about getting a sitter but more to cover her tracks, even if she had killed Caylee unintentionally she would have NEVER been able to compose herself during her communications with Tony L much less go to Blockbuster & rent murder movies to spend the night boinking him into the next day as if nothing happened.  PTSD would not have set in that immediate nor would she have the presence of mind fading in and out of her "blocked memory"  to have to go back and continue covering her tracks over the course of a month including disposing of a body, especially her daughter.   Her claims that she feared her father or mother could be perceived as valid BUT once caught she would have spilled that it was an accident after she was arrested.   There is no way she has sat in jail for 3 years over an unintentional or accidental act without spilling it even if it meant facing child neglect or abuse charges with involuntary manslaughter....its a far cry different than felony murder, for that matter 3 years later she could have conceivably been getting out of jail already.   If the excuses dont fit, you must discount it.

Casey is too spiteful & vengeful when crossed, I believe she was fixated on her lies & stealing catching up to her.   The argument she had with Cindy the night of June 15th over stealing from her grandparents again most likely included Cindy discussing getting custody of Caylee if this horrendous behavior continued.   Caylee was getting old enough to tell her grandparents or anyone that "Zanny" didnt exist & repeat things that she has seen or heard.  I think Casey may have told Caylee that she was going to go visit someone named Zanny but she knew that sooner or later Caylee would be able to say that there was no Zanny.   It was closing in on Casey & she knew it.

I agree that nobody would sit in jail on a 1st degree murder charge wtih the possibility of life wo parole or DP if this were an accident.  Totally proposterous to think this, and IMO, that is probably one of the 1st things the Jury will think about when deliberating. 

Not only would she not have sat in jail..she would have jumped on any of the plea deals offered her by the State..if it was an accident that snowballed.

The basis of the plea deals she has been offerred, the last one as recently as 2 weeks ago right before the start of jury selection, is always that:
1. You must tell the truth
2. You must tell exactly what happended and what you did.

Now..If Baez opening statement was the truth and exactly what happened and what she did..why is she sitting in the courtroom waiting for a jury to decide if she is guilty of murder 1 and looking at a sentence of either LWOP or the DP?

Because she and Baez know that it is all lies and the State, nor Judge Perry would not have accepted that scenario as the whole truth and nothing but the truth..
So  Casey and Baez are rolling the dice hoping the jury ismore gullible then the State and the Judge Perry..and they are hoping they can keep enough damaging evidence out and enough reasonable doubt in the picture. 

GDD, I believe it has been determined that she was NOT offered a deal before the trial started....the people talking about the plea deal was in fact talking about one offered (and I am not sure it was ever confirmed) very early on. On the neglect of a child charges....long before Caylee's remains were found....I believe that was the one and only offer every given


Sunny ..I heard Judge Perry state to the defense on the first day of the jury selection that his understanding was that the defense was not accepting the plea deal at this time.  It was before jury selection started and they were doing their housekeeping so to speak.

I do not have a link , but it should be available on the first tape of jury selection...my computer won't let me leave this screen to even look at the articles people are posting.

It locks up immediately..but I know I heard him say that to Baez. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 07:47:49 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?

I think he was hire shortly after Brad Conway resigned

http://www.wesh.com/r/24767709/detail.html

Report: Cindy, George Anthony Hire New Lawyers
Casey Anthony's Parents Hire New Attorney After Brad Conway Resigns

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/24767709/detail.html#ixzz1NsZbIZFd
 ::snipping2::


How many attorneys have the Anthony's been through now Sunny? It gives me a headache to try to keep up sometimes...

I think Lippman is number 4. First was an attorney who worked primarily with workmans comp, then Mark, then Conway and now Lippman....I think they also had real estate attorney


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 30, 2011, 07:49:08 PM
Casey wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit her on the a$$.

How many people believe she actually told the truth to Baez?

I don't.

Knowing your client is really guilty affects your ability to represent your client to the best of your ability sub-conciously.

I think a lot of people view him as a scum, but most people don't care for defense attorney's anyway- unless of course you need one.

I think Baez has been frustrated with Casey all along, trying to put on a unified front to the public.

He knows what the facts are, I believe he's just trying to level those facts with something sensational to keep Casey from getting the needle.

He could have gone with an accident long ago.   He could go with an accident now, maybe even put suspicion on Roy Kronk (albeit ridiculous) BUT to put forward false allegations of sexual molestation knowing his client didnt even mention her father other than a "maybe" in a jail letter...that makes him scum.   The moment he knew Casey was lying to him he should have begged for a plea, he didnt & why didnt he, because he wants the sensationalism of this case but unfortunately for him any number of actions will in all likelihood cost him being disbarred rather than him benefiting from it.

The testimony so far as we know it is that Tony L stated that Casey did not accuse her father of sexually molesting her...she did make a half-baked accusation regarding her brother.   Casey's jail letter to her jail mate mentions a similar but more vague story regarding her brother with a mention of "maybe" her father too.   Its an obvious set up for her defense & a rather weak one at that.  To our knowledge Jesse was told a similar story regarding her brother, I dont recall any mention of her father to him, a proffer will happen when Jesse testifies as it occurred with Tony L.   If Jesse states the same as Tony, when and if Casey takes the stand she is immediately impeached if she puts the allegation forward with their testimony.

During her jail visits Casey tells her parents that they are the best grandparents Caylee could have, she further tells her father personally that he is the greatest father she has ever met & she means it from the heart.  When she was offered to talk to one of her parents privately in jail, she chose her father, it doesnt matter that it didnt take place.  This too goes against any allegation she makes now that her father molested her.

According to others, George confronted Casey when she was out of jail on bond.   He was witnessed stating that he was tired of living this lie & was insisting on Casey telling him where Caylee was.   If George took part in any cover up why would he confront Casey with people to witness it not knowing what Casey or even Cindy would say to refute it?   Why didnt Casey say right then and there "you know darn well what happened," she didnt.

This defense team should know that this is far from enough to hang their hats on, the jury will see that this is a desperate attempt to shift blame & make her appear as a victim.  The jury will put themselves in George's shoes & they will see it as despicable if they believe she is flat out lying.  It may not fall into the category of an aggravating factor to the murder but it will be in the back of their minds as they deliberate.   The defense is attempting to conduct a trial within a trial, it didnt work for the Menendez brothers & it wont work for Casey.  I do not even think that will be the determining factor whether she receives the DP versus LWOP.   What I am disheartened to see is just how many people are buying into any of this crapola.   You dont have to be a fan of the Anthonys or condone any of their own behavior previous to trial to not separate this wild & horrendous allegation from the truth.   I believe they should be held accountable for all of their own wrong doings but no one deserves to be stabbed in the heart the way this Satan's spawn is attempting to do & only proves how spiteful & venomous Casey is.   Casey is a monster & Im not fooled by her tears or her lies.

Since Tony's testimony about the "secret" was proffered..the jury has not heard that yet right?

Has the judge decided if this testimony can be heard by the jury?

If not, then I doubt they will allow Jesse to testify to that either?

If Casey testifies on her own behalf, it can come in


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:49:41 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.



::MonkeyBike::


You know Baez will be whining about this.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Ya know, if it wouldn't cause a mistrial, I'd pay to see Lee man up and punch Baez in the face.....

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
me too and heres a mallet to knock him out with  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 07:50:16 PM
Hi, Monkeys!   ::HelloKitty::
Just celebrated the Memorial Day with a cookout with family and visiting my mom at the nursing home.  It's going to be an interesting week.  I hope our jurors are well rested and entertained, and ready to put Casey under the jail, no, I'm sorry, to objectively listen to the evidence, and come to the conclusion any sane person would, that she is Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!! (Holiday wine kicking in now!   ::monkeywine2::)
See you all in the AM, ready to toast Caylee's Justice now!

hi Monka....I'd bet the jurors will be rarin' to go....heck they wanted to work today....I think this trial will be over a lot quicker than predicted.

PS...I have some lovely wine from a local winery.....yummy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tevye on May 30, 2011, 07:50:53 PM
::snipping::My second question is - could zanny be  zanax - a drug? Could she have been drugging her 2 1/2 year old for some time? Is there any evidence that would suggest that?  ::snipping2::


I had asked the same thing, and apparently it had been discussed and a few people had thought the same, Kermit.  It makes sense to me.

I looked on the autopsy, the toxicology reports - they all seemed to come back as negative. But they don't rule out drugs... just didn't find any.

http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/anthony,%20caylee_report.pdf  (p. 36/36)

"In summary, volatiles and drugs were not detected in the specimens obtained from the remains of Skeletal Remains Unidenfied; ME 2008-001567.  These results do not rule-out the decedent's prior use and/or exposure to volatiles and/or drugs."

That's because there were no soft tissues to run the tox tests on. (again, late as usual-but I AM ON TOPIC!!! Klaas, are you surprised? I am! ::MonkeyHaHa:: )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Cappuccino on May 30, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?

Apparently, because his previous one did state that he did not represent him any longer because he felt he didnt need representation any longer.  It was reported on awhile ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:54:25 PM
ok kinda embarassed to ask this! what does it mean when someone proffers a deal or something like that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 07:56:20 PM
So did lee get immunity or not..and sorry if I was not soppose to put that up there like that. But the link would not work. I am referring to what I found out about lee and if he did get immunity or if he didn't. Sorry didn't know any other way to do it :(

Yes he got limited immunity.

I am of the opinion that Cindy, George and Lee have all "fibbed" to a certain extent IN THE PAST to protect Casey.  I don't believe they are fibbing now. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 07:57:30 PM
ok kinda embarassed to ask this! what does it mean when someone proffers a deal or something like that?



Just what is a proffer and what are the perils of entering into a proffer agreement (also known as a proffer letter) with the federal government? Proffer or "queen for a day" letters are written agreements between federal prosecutors and individuals under criminal investigation which permit these individuals to tell the government about their knowledge of crimes, with the supposed assurance that their words will not be used against them in any later proceedings. (The individuals can either be witnesses, subjects or targets of a federal investigation, although it is subjects and targets who provide most proffers.)
more on link
http://library.findlaw.com/2005/Feb/21/138691.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 07:58:48 PM
BILL SHEAFFER: Preview Of Day 17 In Casey Trial

For tomorrow.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28075393/index.html

It's of the whole week, what's going to go on....
 ::monkeywine2::
This might of got lost with all the post.

Lee will be tomorrow afternoon....cops the rest of the week on the stand.
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 07:58:51 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.

Hi Don.....re the fight the night of the 15th....Lee told Jesse about this...however KC told Lee....so who knows what really happened....I think Cindy lied about the evening in that she omitted the theft .....that info came from her mother and if it was introduced at that time it might have been sustained on an objection as hearsay....I think Mrs. Pleasa may have to testify to that.  I try to keep reminding myself to remember KC is their daughter and they do not want her to get the DP...and they are not going to back her on the abuse charges....I honestly think they would rather see her in a mental ward someplace


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 07:59:55 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?

I think he was hire shortly after Brad Conway resigned

http://www.wesh.com/r/24767709/detail.html

Report: Cindy, George Anthony Hire New Lawyers
Casey Anthony's Parents Hire New Attorney After Brad Conway Resigns

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/24767709/detail.html#ixzz1NsZbIZFd
 ::snipping2::


How many attorneys have the Anthony's been through now Sunny? It gives me a headache to try to keep up sometimes...

I think Lippman is number 4. First was an attorney who worked primarily with workmans comp, then Mark, then Conway and now Lippman....I think they also had real estate attorney
the anthonys are going thru attorneys almost at the speed of casey   going thru men!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 08:01:04 PM
The almost seething anger that oozed from the Anthony's in prior hearings when they were questioned by LDB or JA was so uncomfortable for the court. I think it also made the Anthony's look like they were hiding something. Not the reaction that the Ants wanted people to feel. Now, they are cooperative and cordial to the State. The State is also going to be the ones to protect the Anthony's over the next several weeks while the defense continues to throw daggers at them.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::  LOL....loca did you really post this.... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 08:01:43 PM
ok kinda embarassed to ask this! what does it mean when someone proffers a deal or something like that?



Just what is a proffer and what are the perils of entering into a proffer agreement (also known as a proffer letter) with the federal government? Proffer or "queen for a day" letters are written agreements between federal prosecutors and individuals under criminal investigation which permit these individuals to tell the government about their knowledge of crimes, with the supposed assurance that their words will not be used against them in any later proceedings. (The individuals can either be witnesses, subjects or targets of a federal investigation, although it is subjects and targets who provide most proffers.)
more on link
http://library.findlaw.com/2005/Feb/21/138691.html

thanks   makes sense. ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 08:02:10 PM
BILL SHEAFFER: Preview Of Day 17 In Casey Trial

For tomorrow.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28075393/index.html

It's of the whole week, what's going to go on....
 ::monkeywine2::
This might of got lost with all the post.

Lee will be tomorrow afternoon....cops the rest of the week on the stand.
 ::MonkeyBike::


Sheaffer's opinion or fact?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 08:02:58 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO

I just thought of something. Casey told Tony her car was out of gas, they go to to her parents and steal the cans of gas (she tells Tony not to worry, after all it is her shed too and it is ok)  and Tony and Casey go back to Amscot where she puts gas in the car. My question is, if the car was towed to the lot, then why would it have been out of gas? Did Casey use it between the time she gassed it up, with the help of Tony and the time it was towed? Because, had it been towed with the gas Casey put in it with stolen cans from her shed at home, then George would have been able to start it and drive it home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 08:03:09 PM
Did lee or did lee not get immunity??

use immunity...yes.....read here

http://research.lawyers.com/glossary/use-immunity.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 30, 2011, 08:03:45 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.

Hi Don.....re the fight the night of the 15th....Lee told Jesse about this...however KC told Lee....so who knows what really happened....I think Cindy lied about the evening in that she omitted the theft .....that info came from her mother and if it was introduced at that time it might have been sustained on an objection as hearsay....I think Mrs. Pleasa may have to testify to that.  I try to keep reminding myself to remember KC is their daughter and they do not want her to get the DP...and they are not going to back her on the abuse charges....I honestly think they would rather see her in a mental ward someplace

I guess you are on to it.  I guess they are putting out things a bit at a time.  I'd like to see the whole family in an institution.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 08:03:52 PM
The almost seething anger that oozed from the Anthony's in prior hearings when they were questioned by LDB or JA was so uncomfortable for the court. I think it also made the Anthony's look like they were hiding something. Not the reaction that the Ants wanted people to feel. Now, they are cooperative and cordial to the State. The State is also going to be the ones to protect the Anthony's over the next several weeks while the defense continues to throw daggers at them.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::  LOL....loca did you really post this.... ::MonkeyDevil::
yes I posted it but have fessup that It was not my comment but one made by a poster @  http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400 Fixed link-needs space before start of link  MB

thought it was worth posting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 08:04:53 PM

Casey Anthony Trial Today
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
GEORGE ANTHONY ON THE STAND


<snipped>

George states he wakes up around 7am when Cindy has left or is going to work. He has coffee and spends time with Caylee.  He would help her to the BR and assist her with brushing he teeth. He would help her with breakfast. It was "a great morning' per George. Caylees favorite videos were 101 Dalmations and Lady in the Tramp. He recalls first seeing Casey around 10am.  He is not sure as he cherished "morning time" with Caylee.Casey left the house around  , he remembers watching the food channel,  Caylee was wearing blue jeans and pink top , and Caylee said she was going to see Zanny when asked.

<snipped>

http://caseyanthonytrialtodayinreview.blogspot.com/2011/05/george-anthony-on-stand.html



Seems to me George would have remembered, since Casey was asleep, he assisted Caylee with brushing her teeth, helped her in the bathroom, fed her breakfast - he probably dressed her also.

I agree.

Janet

Really..you all have excellant memories because I can not remember what I wore myself one week ago today..nor what my grandchildren had on last week when they were here for a few days.

We are talking one month later here..not the next day..and he did not know the last time he saw her would be the last time forever.  So I truly doubt George did remember more then 30 days later what Caylee had on that particular day.  JMHO

me too.....I can't remember what I wore last week.....I think Cindy might have looked through Caylee clothing and knew what was missing and told GA...but I doubt him remembering  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 08:07:05 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO

I just thought of something. Casey told Tony her car was out of gas, they go to to her parents and steal the cans of gas (she tells Tony not to worry, after all it is her shed too and it is ok)  and Tony and Casey go back to Amscot where she puts gas in the car. My question is, if the car was towed to the lot, then why would it have been out of gas? Did Casey use it between the time she gassed it up, with the help of Tony and the time it was towed? Because, had it been towed with the gas Casey put in it with stolen cans from her shed at home, then George would have been able to start it and drive it home.

Never thought of that.
Depends how much gas was in the gas cans and how far she drove.
jmo.  I think she ran it out of gas on purpose, then hopping someone would steal it.
 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 08:10:33 PM
hln nancy grace talking about the misisng teddy bear


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 08:11:38 PM


GDD, I believe it has been determined that she was NOT offered a deal before the trial started....the people talking about the plea deal was in fact talking about one offered (and I am not sure it was ever confirmed) very early on. On the neglect of a child charges....long before Caylee's remains were found....I believe that was the one and only offer every given


Sunny ..I heard Judge Perry state to the defense on the first day of the jury selection that his understanding was that the defense was not accepting the plea deal at this time.  It was before jury selection started and they were doing their housekeeping so to speak.

I do not have a link , but it should be available on the first tape of jury selection...my computer won't let me leave this screen to even look at the articles people are posting.

It locks up immediately..but I know I heard him say that to Baez. 

I believe he asked her if she had entered into a plea and she said no. I also believe this is SOP.....I will ask my friend just to make sure...so we are both clear on it. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 30, 2011, 08:11:49 PM
BILL SHEAFFER: Preview Of Day 17 In Casey Trial

For tomorrow.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28075393/index.html

It's of the whole week, what's going to go on....
 ::monkeywine2::
This might of got lost with all the post.

Lee will be tomorrow afternoon....cops the rest of the week on the stand.
 ::MonkeyBike::


Sheaffer's opinion or fact?

His opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 30, 2011, 08:13:22 PM
BILL SHEAFFER: Preview Of Day 17 In Casey Trial

For tomorrow.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28075393/index.html

It's of the whole week, what's going to go on....
 ::monkeywine2::
This might of got lost with all the post.

Lee will be tomorrow afternoon....cops the rest of the week on the stand.
 ::MonkeyBike::


Sheaffer's opinion or fact?

His opinion.
Yep, I really like him......a straight shooter...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 08:18:11 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO

I just thought of something. Casey told Tony her car was out of gas, they go to to her parents and steal the cans of gas (she tells Tony not to worry, after all it is her shed too and it is ok)  and Tony and Casey go back to Amscot where she puts gas in the car. My question is, if the car was towed to the lot, then why would it have been out of gas? Did Casey use it between the time she gassed it up, with the help of Tony and the time it was towed? Because, had it been towed with the gas Casey put in it with stolen cans from her shed at home, then George would have been able to start it and drive it home.

Never thought of that.
Depends how much gas was in the gas cans and how far she drove.
jmo.  I think she ran it out of gas on purpose, then hopping someone would steal it.
 ::monkeywine2::

But why put gas in it? I thought Tony offered to see what might be wrong and she says...my Dad will take care of it. It really puzzles me why George needed to put gas in it if Casey had put gas in it which she took from the shed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 30, 2011, 08:20:20 PM
It's BBQ time here.....don't forget to remember the men and women who have sacrificed so much for this country and our freedom...as well as those who  still face our ememies to keep us free and their families.  God Bless America!   See ya bright and early tomorrow morning....JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: DonFL on May 30, 2011, 08:21:13 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO

I just thought of something. Casey told Tony her car was out of gas, they go to to her parents and steal the cans of gas (she tells Tony not to worry, after all it is her shed too and it is ok)  and Tony and Casey go back to Amscot where she puts gas in the car. My question is, if the car was towed to the lot, then why would it have been out of gas? Did Casey use it between the time she gassed it up, with the help of Tony and the time it was towed? Because, had it been towed with the gas Casey put in it with stolen cans from her shed at home, then George would have been able to start it and drive it home.

Never thought of that.
Depends how much gas was in the gas cans and how far she drove.
jmo.  I think she ran it out of gas on purpose, then hopping someone would steal it.
 ::monkeywine2::

But why put gas in it? I thought Tony offered to see what might be wrong and she says...my Dad will take care of it. It really puzzles me why George needed to put gas in it if Casey had put gas in it which she took from the shed.

Aren't these two different times?  Sorry but I'm confused about the time line.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Magnolia on May 30, 2011, 08:21:51 PM
Page 1 of the autopsy report

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5142/5777658681_c0ff12bd3a_o.jpg)

Page 2 of the autopsy report

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2511/5778221718_3f7f2c3d57_o.jpg)

Thanks Klaas.

The autopsy report states that the duct tape was placed prior to decomposition ... not prior to death.

There was an "expert" who claimed otherwise.  Who was he?  Did he examine the remains.

Thanks

Janet


If you read the ENTIRE autopsy report, it states that the tape was put in place
antemortem, or before death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cheeky monkey on May 30, 2011, 08:21:51 PM
would all you monkeys agree that Tony was important to Casey (as important as one can be to Casey)?  I think he was.  it's funny that after it was clear it was over between them she didn't pretend like he was on vacation and make up happy stories about their relationship continuing like the defense says she did about Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 08:22:49 PM
http://bullstopper.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/does-jose-baez-speak-in-circles/
sorry if this has already been posted


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 08:25:16 PM
You know, if Leonard Padilla was so very interested in this case, wouldn't you think he would want to be in the courtroom?  IMO all he wanted was the publicity this case gave him.  ::CowboySmiley::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5778245879_7326098dd3_o.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: flamom on May 30, 2011, 08:27:15 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?
I am a few pages behind...but didnt they hire Lippman when Brad Conway stepped aside?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Curly on May 30, 2011, 08:27:35 PM
Too funny, Klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 30, 2011, 08:29:37 PM
I find this site very helpful when referring back to the case from the beginning..

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_directory_index.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 30, 2011, 08:31:53 PM
You know, if Leonard Padilla was so very interested in this case, wouldn't you think he would want to be in the courtroom?  IMO all he wanted was the publicity this case gave him.  ::CowboySmiley::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5778245879_7326098dd3_o.gif)

Too many people inserted themselves in this case.

(Klaas~ sent you a message)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 08:32:03 PM
You know, if Leonard Padilla was so very interested in this case, wouldn't you think he would want to be in the courtroom?  IMO all he wanted was the publicity this case gave him.  ::CowboySmiley::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5778245879_7326098dd3_o.gif)
omg that is hilarious! klaas your on a roll today! earlier your comment to zoo was too funny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 08:42:10 PM
You know, if Leonard Padilla was so very interested in this case, wouldn't you think he would want to be in the courtroom?  IMO all he wanted was the publicity this case gave him.  ::CowboySmiley::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5778245879_7326098dd3_o.gif)

I totally agree. It was all about publicity. Remember how he was supposedly close to that poster, do not recall her name now and he seemed like such a wonderful human being, according to her? In my opinion, he did not have finding Caylee and finding out what happened to her as his motivating factor. all about himself and the $$$- That is my opinion at the moment.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 30, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-relatives-call-sexual-molestation-claims-made-the-casey-anthony-case-preposterous-video


George Anthony's Relatives Call Sexual Molestation Claims Made in the Casey Anthony Case Preposterous

May 29th, 2011 5:25 pm ET



http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-family-calls-sex-abuse-claims-casey-anthony-case-despicable

George Anthony's family calls sex abuse claims in Casey Anthony case despicable

May 29th, 2011 5:22 pm ET
Cindy Adams




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 08:44:21 PM
george was not part of the consipracy or involved with caylees death.. to many things will prove it..

I do not think that George Anthony is connected to the events encompassing the actual death of his granddaughter or the disposal of her remains.  However ... in an attempt to protect Casey from the consequences of her actions ... George made the decision to further the "rotting pizza" and the "Caylee is alive" distractions.  This former cop knew from the moment he got whiff of that "smell of death" that his granddaughter was deceased.

Janet



IIRC - George furthered the rotting pizza story after it became clear even to the public that Cindy was losing her mind.  George has said that he's backed his wife to keep her from losing her sanity....and I think we all saw that happening for a long period of time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 08:47:23 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400
she made some sense regarding holt! remember in a jailhouse video she said"she is close to holt"
maybe she got scared that after saying she was close to holt ! LE may look there! JMO

comment from Magpie:

Lee said in his civil deposition that he attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. Cindy said in her SAO depostion that Lee and Casey went to the Ninth Grade Center. She didn't mention the location, but I presume that both Lee and Casey attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. The address is 528 Huntington Ave. I googled and found out that there is a Holt Ave, and also a Holt Dr., close to the Ninth Grade Center. The distance is less than half a mile. The address of Rollins college is 1000 Holt Ave. It is less than a mile from the Ninth Grade Center. Rollins College is located in the historic, scenic area of Winter Park.

I heard that there are hidden pathways in the scenic area of Winter Park, and I read that there are streets lined with Camphor and Oak trees. According to Dr. Hall's October 2008 report, Cinnamon Camphor leaves and Oak twigs and leaves were in the plastic housing windshield of Casey's car. A Cinnamon Camphor leaf was under the right chassis behind the right front tire, and there were Cinnamon Camphor leaves in the spare tire well. I wonder if Casey disposed of Caylee's body in Winter Park, somewhere close to Holt Ave., at a specific place she had mentioned to Cindy that Lee would recognize as a place familiar to Casey and him. I wonder if Lee found Caylee's body and moved her to the wooded area off Suburban Dr. at some point.

On July 21, 2008, LE requested and obtained a court order authorizing the installation and use of mobile tracking device upon one or more vehicle operated by Casey, Cindy, George, Lee, and Tony Lazzaro. The order was good for 60 days. On October 7, 2008, a court order to extend the original order for another 60 days was obtained. Those were the only orders I recall seeing in the discovery documents, so I presume any mobile devices that had been installed were disabled between September 20 and October 7, 2008. I wonder if and when LE installed mobile tracking devices upon Cindy's, George's, and Lee's vehicles and if it was recorded that any of those vehicles were close to Holt Avenue in Winter Park during the time the devices were in use.

I somehow missed that they had gone to Winter Park's 9th grade center. My bigger question would be why? That school is not only in a different district but in a different county. We do have magnet schools that offer high school students different study programs (i.e. one school is law, one sciences) but that would explain one of the Anthony's qualifying into the program not both. Can you direct me to any link that discusses why they went to a school for one year that is so far out of their territory. TYIA
[/quote]


OMG - what a post - this is something I would have never put together.  Very interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: theboyzmom on May 30, 2011, 08:48:04 PM


If you read the ENTIRE autopsy report, it states that the tape was put in place
antemortem, or before death.

Magnolia - i have read the report and did a search - I do not see the word antemortem - where are you seeing this at?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Listening to George's interview with the Sheriff:

My son is much more level-headed than my wife.

My wife and  separated in 2005.



 ::MonkeyMad::

George disgusts me!!  He is no prize.  He is a spineless wonder.  His words in the interview undermining Cindy was akin to the pot calling the kettle black.

Think about it.  As far as we know Cindy did not cheat on George.  As far as we know Cindy was not unemployed for years.  As far as we know Cindy did not lose thousands in online Gambling.  As far as we know Cindy did not attempt to take the suicide route in order to escape the nightmare encmpassing his granddaughter's disappearance.

Janet

+++++


A Tough Thanksgiving For Anthony Family
Thursday, November 27, 2008 – updated: 12:02 pm EST November 27, 2008


FAMILY TENSION

<snipped>

Casey's parents' financial problems almost shattered their marriage but ended up saving it because Cindy couldn't afford divorce. The investigation showed Cindy supported George for years.  He lost thousands of dollars in a U.K. lottery scam.

<snipped>

http://www.wftv.com/news/18159143/detail.html


I may not believe that George is involved in the actual events encompassing the death of Caylee or the disposal of her remains but ... his character is not above reproach.

I believe that Cindy is the glue that held that dysfunctional family together.

Janet



None of the family members are above reproach.   



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 08:51:49 PM
OT-can someone direct me to where I can learn how to answer someone when there is a quote stack and I just want to comment on the last post in the stack?
 :smt100





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 08:52:08 PM
Did lee or did lee not get immunity??

Yes, Lee got immunity.

After this, the lawyer he had at the time made a statement to the press (words to the effect) that Lee no longer needed an attorney.

I guess that is why, now that Lee wants to be in the courtroom, that Lee picked up with Lippman, who is the attorney who successfully got G&C into the courtroom.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 08:54:40 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.

Hi Don.....re the fight the night of the 15th....Lee told Jesse about this...however KC told Lee....so who knows what really happened....I think Cindy lied about the evening in that she omitted the theft .....that info came from her mother and if it was introduced at that time it might have been sustained on an objection as hearsay....I think Mrs. Pleasa may have to testify to that.  I try to keep reminding myself to remember KC is their daughter and they do not want her to get the DP...and they are not going to back her on the abuse charges....I honestly think they would rather see her in a mental ward someplace

I agree Sunny..Had Cindy said anything about the theft at this point the defense would have an objection as heresay testimony, which is what they were objecting to with Tony..heresay. That's why the judge wanted Tony to proffer his testimony first to see if it was admissible at this point.

I think the State will get Mrs Pleasa to testify to the theft, add bank records , etc to back that up..and then they can call Cindy to the stand to talk about confronting Casey with this info on June 15..and what resulted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 30, 2011, 08:55:35 PM
OT-can someone direct me to where I can learn how to answer someone when there is a quote stack and I just want to comment on the last post in the stack?
 :smt100
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9830.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 08:59:51 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO

I just thought of something. Casey told Tony her car was out of gas, they go to to her parents and steal the cans of gas (she tells Tony not to worry, after all it is her shed too and it is ok)  and Tony and Casey go back to Amscot where she puts gas in the car. My question is, if the car was towed to the lot, then why would it have been out of gas? Did Casey use it between the time she gassed it up, with the help of Tony and the time it was towed? Because, had it been towed with the gas Casey put in it with stolen cans from her shed at home, then George would have been able to start it and drive it home.
Shell the day she ran out of gas was a completely different day then the day she abandon the car at Amscot.

She ran out of gas on a road very near her house.  And that day Tony came and helped her get the gas cans.  Amscot is a few days later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: tupelohoney on May 30, 2011, 09:02:58 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.

Hi Don.....re the fight the night of the 15th....Lee told Jesse about this...however KC told Lee....so who knows what really happened....I think Cindy lied about the evening in that she omitted the theft .....that info came from her mother and if it was introduced at that time it might have been sustained on an objection as hearsay....I think Mrs. Pleasa may have to testify to that.  I try to keep reminding myself to remember KC is their daughter and they do not want her to get the DP...and they are not going to back her on the abuse charges....I honestly think they would rather see her in a mental ward someplace

I agree Sunny..Had Cindy said anything about the theft at this point the defense would have an objection as heresay testimony, which is what they were objecting to with Tony..heresay. That's why the judge wanted Tony to proffer his testimony first to see if it was admissible at this point.

I think the State will get Mrs Pleasa to testify to the theft, add bank records , etc to back that up..and then they can call Cindy to the stand to talk about confronting Casey with this info on June 15..and what resulted.
I think it depends on what the State is going to use as motive.  Will it be she wanted to party and be with Tony and Caylee was in the way or will it be to spite Cindy, she threatened to take Caylee away from Casey, so Casey took Caylee away from Cindy, forever.  It seems to me the State is going for the first option, it fits better with premeditation.  The fight and the threat would not have prompted the computer searches back in March.....unless that was an ongoing event in the Anthony home.     all jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 30, 2011, 09:04:44 PM
I can't sleep.  While trying to sleep I had 2 thoughts

One is, remember Bozo was asking George if he had heard about the drowning before?  I bet he did that, knowing he had somebody tell the A's their theory back 6 weeks ago), so that when he said yes, the jury would be like ahh this has been going around for a while, it must be true.

Another thing, when KC walks in in the morning, she surveys the table, looking at all the paper on the desk, files, etc, giving the half smile to everybody.  It reminds me of somebody coming to work with their cup of morning coffee, looks over their messages, appts for the day, before sitting down getting ready to start their day.  She acts as if this is her job. 

The only scenario that works for me in my mind with the blanket is the wench used it in car for Caylee to sleep on and had done so before; however, I am not sure if this makes sense, because the blanket would not doubt get dirty and she would have to explain that to her mother or wash the blanket.

Another thing, some are saying the phone calls on the 16th, the frantic ones, were KC trying to get a hold of somebody because of an accident?  I think, Caylee was still alive then, and that those phones calls were trying to get a sitter (Cindy said she spoke with her at 4ish (IIRC) begging her to watch Caylee but she was at work and so was George.  So, I believe whatever happened happened after 4 but before she met with Tony to go bo Blockbuster Video.  Was she still pinging at her parents house then?  I have to go check the timeline.
I think you're onto something there....


 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

 Casey appears to be leaving the Anthony home @ 4:18 p.m. en route to Tony L.’s apt.
 4:18:51 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:19:18 p.m. – Tony L.’s cell ph call to Casey’s cell ph
 4:19:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Tony L.’s cell ph
 4:21:32 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:21:56 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Jesse G.’s cell ph
 4:25:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph

 4:26 p.m. – Casey’s cell phone pings show her tracking westward near ROYAL packing company in the 6700 block of

Cheney HWY and Linden LN, Orlando, FL.
 5:06:23 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 5:57 pm Casey’s cell phone pings at or near Tony L.’s apartment – Sutton Place, Winter Park, FL.
June 16

Burner also testified that he saw Anthony's white car backed into the family's garage on the afternoon of June 16


 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph



 Between 3:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Casey allegedly makes numerous calls, lasting anywhere from a few seconds to a minute,

to her parents and several friends.
MON, June 16, 2008 – Between 12 midnight and 1 a.m. there was high user activity on the HP Desktop computer. Between 12

midnight and 11 a.m. there was NO activity on Casey’s Laptop. Casey and Tony spent most of the night (12:40 a.m. – 3:22 a.m.)

talking and texting. Tony said the conversations were about “boyfriend/girlfriend stuff.”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 09:05:01 PM


GDD, I believe it has been determined that she was NOT offered a deal before the trial started....the people talking about the plea deal was in fact talking about one offered (and I am not sure it was ever confirmed) very early on. On the neglect of a child charges....long before Caylee's remains were found....I believe that was the one and only offer every given


Sunny ..I heard Judge Perry state to the defense on the first day of the jury selection that his understanding was that the defense was not accepting the plea deal at this time.  It was before jury selection started and they were doing their housekeeping so to speak.

I do not have a link , but it should be available on the first tape of jury selection...my computer won't let me leave this screen to even look at the articles people are posting.

It locks up immediately..but I know I heard him say that to Baez. 

I believe he asked her if she had entered into a plea and she said no. I also believe this is SOP.....I will ask my friend just to make sure...so we are both clear on it. ::MonkeyWink::


Sunny..I think you are exactly right...he asked if she wanted to enter a plea.

I watch this trial on InSessions, puter is bad and will not let me do more then one thing, and half the time I don't know if I am hearing what I am hearing or just parts.  So I apologize to you.  I think InSessions should run this with commercials at the sidebars and breaks..and leave the color commentary for the lunch hour.  I feel like I miss half the trial watching it there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 30, 2011, 09:12:32 PM

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

<snipped by Tamikosmom>

 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


These are the flurry of calls that cause me to suspect that Casey discovered her daughter had died of an unintended chloroforum overdose and ... her initial response out of panic was to contact her mother ... her father.

It is my understanding that Casey's attempts to contact either parent in these flurry of calls was unsuccessful.  Am I right?

Janet
I think something  the chloroforum overdose happen in this time frame

schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.
 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 09:17:39 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.

Hi Don.....re the fight the night of the 15th....Lee told Jesse about this...however KC told Lee....so who knows what really happened....I think Cindy lied about the evening in that she omitted the theft .....that info came from her mother and if it was introduced at that time it might have been sustained on an objection as hearsay....I think Mrs. Pleasa may have to testify to that.  I try to keep reminding myself to remember KC is their daughter and they do not want her to get the DP...and they are not going to back her on the abuse charges....I honestly think they would rather see her in a mental ward someplace

I agree Sunny..Had Cindy said anything about the theft at this point the defense would have an objection as heresay testimony, which is what they were objecting to with Tony..heresay. That's why the judge wanted Tony to proffer his testimony first to see if it was admissible at this point.

I think the State will get Mrs Pleasa to testify to the theft, add bank records , etc to back that up..and then they can call Cindy to the stand to talk about confronting Casey with this info on June 15..and what resulted.
I think it depends on what the State is going to use as motive.  Will it be she wanted to party and be with Tony and Caylee was in the way or will it be to spite Cindy, she threatened to take Caylee away from Casey, so Casey took Caylee away from Cindy, forever.  It seems to me the State is going for the first option, it fits better with premeditation.  The fight and the threat would not have prompted the computer searches back in March.....unless that was an ongoing event in the Anthony home.     all jmo

Good point Tupelo.

I think they are going after the motive having the good life.  Premeditation beginning in March, the parade of men, the lies , no job, thieving from family and friends, while soaking her parents like a sponge.  But I think it will add up to Casey just wanted out of her current life and situation.. I wouldn't even say she wanted to be with Tony..because when Tony wasn't there she was with others.  I think they have to bring it all in to show how she had been living, and how she wanted to live..and Caylee just wasn't in that picture.  Her parents weren't either..I don't think she wanted anyone or anything tying her down..no job, no parents, no child, no exclusive boyfriend..JMHO .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 09:34:07 PM
cindy wanted to take Caylee away from Casey, so Casey took Caylee away from Cindy,
wow you hit on a good point there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 09:35:54 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO

I just thought of something. Casey told Tony her car was out of gas, they go to to her parents and steal the cans of gas (she tells Tony not to worry, after all it is her shed too and it is ok)  and Tony and Casey go back to Amscot where she puts gas in the car. My question is, if the car was towed to the lot, then why would it have been out of gas? Did Casey use it between the time she gassed it up, with the help of Tony and the time it was towed? Because, had it been towed with the gas Casey put in it with stolen cans from her shed at home, then George would have been able to start it and drive it home.
Shell the day she ran out of gas was a completely different day then the day she abandon the car at Amscot.

She ran out of gas on a road very near her house.  And that day Tony came and helped her get the gas cans.  Amscot is a few days later.

Ohhh, ok thanks for that info  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 30, 2011, 09:35:59 PM
Can I have the link to the Casey melt down. I just can't find it Thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 09:40:09 PM
Can I have the link to the Casey melt down. I just can't find it Thanks

http://www.wftv.com/video/28057616/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
Can I have the link to the Casey melt down. I just can't find it Thanks

I have watched it at least a half dozen times  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Blonde on May 30, 2011, 09:44:30 PM
Can I have the link to the Casey melt down. I just can't find it Thanks

I have watched it at least a half dozen times  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I know it makes me feel better too I'm going to try to save it never saved a video before in photobucket


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:44:52 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.

Hi Don.....re the fight the night of the 15th....Lee told Jesse about this...however KC told Lee....so who knows what really happened....I think Cindy lied about the evening in that she omitted the theft .....that info came from her mother and if it was introduced at that time it might have been sustained on an objection as hearsay....I think Mrs. Pleasa may have to testify to that.  I try to keep reminding myself to remember KC is their daughter and they do not want her to get the DP...and they are not going to back her on the abuse charges....I honestly think they would rather see her in a mental ward someplace

I guess you are on to it.  I guess they are putting out things a bit at a time.  I'd like to see the whole family in an institution.  ::rhino::


Don.... I think that is where they all belong, and quite possibly could end up there after this is all over....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:45:45 PM
Can I have the link to the Casey melt down. I just can't find it Thanks


Blonde....you ALWAYS have the links....... ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 09:47:05 PM


Am I remembering this correctly?

A good number of the members of the jury are not all that into computers. I think her Googling neck breaking, chloroform and (I might be wrong in the exact terms...household weapons) but I think that will be huge in their minds, as it is huge in my mine in thinking premeditation by Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 09:47:43 PM

Per Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

<snipped by Tamikosmom>

 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 6:31:47 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:10 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 6:32:54 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:06:24 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Anthony hm ph
 7:20:00 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Amy H.’s cell ph

<snipped by Tamikosmom>


These are the flurry of calls that cause me to suspect that Casey discovered her daughter had died of an unintended chloroforum overdose and ... her initial response out of panic was to contact her mother ... her father.

It is my understanding that Casey's attempts to contact either parent in these flurry of calls was unsuccessful.  Am I right?

Janet
I think something  the chloroforum overdose happen in this time frame

schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.
 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph

 Note: The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

I agree.

Janet

++++++


Correction.  I believe that the following flurry of calls is when something happened to Caylee and ... Casey's initial response was to contact either her mother or father.

Janet

++++

Blonde's Timeline:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10200.0

 4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
 4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
 4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
cindy wanted to take Caylee away from Casey, so Casey took Caylee away from Cindy,
wow you hit on a good point there.


I have always thought this as well... I do not believe there was any freaking accident...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: New Monkey on May 30, 2011, 09:53:51 PM
Was it ever determined what the stains in Caylee's car seat were of?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post #16

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.20

Posts #24, #25


I believe they were "decomp" stains

There were decomp stains in her carseat?  Holy moly, I hadn't heard that before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 09:54:52 PM
I guess it's just me but I don't see how Cindy did any harm to Casey.  All she did was "mostly" tell the truth about the events.  I still feel that she "volunteered" too much info about how concerned and caring Casey was.  She also lied (IMO) about the evening they spent watching the videos.  Wasn't that the night they had the big fight?  I'm confused at best.

Hi Don.....re the fight the night of the 15th....Lee told Jesse about this...however KC told Lee....so who knows what really happened....I think Cindy lied about the evening in that she omitted the theft .....that info came from her mother and if it was introduced at that time it might have been sustained on an objection as hearsay....I think Mrs. Pleasa may have to testify to that.  I try to keep reminding myself to remember KC is their daughter and they do not want her to get the DP...and they are not going to back her on the abuse charges....I honestly think they would rather see her in a mental ward someplace

I agree Sunny..Had Cindy said anything about the theft at this point the defense would have an objection as heresay testimony, which is what they were objecting to with Tony..heresay. That's why the judge wanted Tony to proffer his testimony first to see if it was admissible at this point.

I think the State will get Mrs Pleasa to testify to the theft, add bank records , etc to back that up..and then they can call Cindy to the stand to talk about confronting Casey with this info on June 15..and what resulted.
I think it depends on what the State is going to use as motive.  Will it be she wanted to party and be with Tony and Caylee was in the way or will it be to spite Cindy, she threatened to take Caylee away from Casey, so Casey took Caylee away from Cindy, forever.  It seems to me the State is going for the first option, it fits better with premeditation.  The fight and the threat would not have prompted the computer searches back in March.....unless that was an ongoing event in the Anthony home.     all jmo


Sunny and Gypsy... I agree... Shirley will have to testify to the fight and theft...then Cindy...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:00:48 PM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-relatives-call-sexual-molestation-claims-made-the-casey-anthony-case-preposterous-video


George Anthony's Relatives Call Sexual Molestation Claims Made in the Casey Anthony Case Preposterous

May 29th, 2011 5:25 pm ET



http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-family-calls-sex-abuse-claims-casey-anthony-case-despicable

George Anthony's family calls sex abuse claims in Casey Anthony case despicable

May 29th, 2011 5:22 pm ET
Cindy Adams




That is what the family ... even the mother ... of my daughter's close friend when she revealed at the age of twenty-nine after years of rebellion/promiscuity the hell she experienced by her father as a child.  It didn't happen immediately but the father did eventually condede to the family that his daughter was being truthful.

Casey could be lying regarding the sexual abuse and ... then again she may not.  Unless any of us were a fly on the wall of the Anthony home .....

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 10:03:12 PM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-relatives-call-sexual-molestation-claims-made-the-casey-anthony-case-preposterous-video


George Anthony's Relatives Call Sexual Molestation Claims Made in the Casey Anthony Case Preposterous

May 29th, 2011 5:25 pm ET



http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-family-calls-sex-abuse-claims-casey-anthony-case-despicable

George Anthony's family calls sex abuse claims in Casey Anthony case despicable

May 29th, 2011 5:22 pm ET
Cindy Adams




That is what the family ... even the mother ... of my daughter's close friend when she revealed at the age of twenty-nine after years of rebellion/promiscuity the hell she experienced by her father as a child.  It didn't happen immediately but the father did eventually condede to the family that his daughter was being truthful.

Casey could be lying regarding the sexual abuse and ... then again she may not.  Unless any of us were a fly on the wall of the Anthony home .....

Janet

This is so true Janet.... No one would have thought Scumbag Lewis would kill Kaitlin Aydell and turn out to be a perv...but he did and he was....you just never know what goes on behind closed doors....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:09:03 PM
Was it ever determined what the stains in Caylee's car seat were of?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post #16

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.20

Posts #24, #25


I believe they were "decomp" stains

There were decomp stains in her carseat?  Holy moly, I hadn't heard that before.

Holy moly!!!  I haven't heard that expression in a "coon's age".

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Anyways ... I have not read anywhere that forensice testing had determined that the stains in the carset was body decomposition.  However ... I could have missed it.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 10:11:35 PM


puzzler:

Magpie wrote:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400


I somehow missed that they had gone to Winter Park's 9th grade center. My bigger question would be why? That school is not only in a different district but in a different county. We do have magnet schools that offer high school students different study programs (i.e. one school is law, one sciences) but that would explain one of the Anthony's qualifying into the program not both. Can you direct me to any link that discusses why they went to a school for one year that is so far out of their territory. TYIA


I had a link from the hinky for the depo.. but it didnt work...So I went to the link and found it had been posted at :
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310276/detail.html

this is what cindy says about their schooling in her state depo
Q Okay. Where did Lee start first grade
when he moved here? I'm sorry. I said that
wrong. When he moved here, where did he start
first grade?
A Right. It was Rio Pinar Elementary School.

Q Okay. Now, there is an elementary school
that's by your house now.
A Right. That was not built yet.

Q Okay. Do you know what --
A That was built the year that Casey started
kindergarten. She was part of the dedication ceremony.
Q All right. So that's Hidden Oaks --
A Yes.

-- correct?

A And then he transferred there when it was
built. I believe he was in third grade.

Q All right. Did Lee finish -- since you never
moved, did he finish his elementary school at --
A At Hidden Oaks. Right.

Q -- Hidden Oaks? Okay. And then Casey would
have spent her entire elementary school --

A At Hidden Oaks.
Q -- at Hidden Oaks? Okay.
A Uh-huh.

Q How about middle school? Where did Lee go?
A Liberty Middle School.
Q And Casey?
A Liberty Middle School.

Q For all three years? Six, seven, eight?
A Yeah. Sixth, seventh and eighth. Yes.

Q High school for Lee? Colonial?
A Colonial, yeah. They had the ninth-grade
center and then the tenth through twelfth grade was at
the main campus.
Q Okay. And Colonial as well for Casey?
A Yes.







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 30, 2011, 10:12:35 PM
I think that al of Casey's " friends ", the people that she hung around with at that time or had any contact with like Ricardo, Tony L, Jesse, Amy and Chris Stultz are damn lucky it isn't them who are mentioned as being the accomplices in the OS.
..
Do you think she was going to try to set up Chris / She calls him from jail, so of course the police are going to ask him : What / Why / What is your relationship or connection  in this mess ?
She visits Chris on the 17th being upset over her parents divorce and then, the Stultz family finds Caylee's swim stuff. She spent the night of June 9 over at Ricardo's, the date of the last seen Caylee is given as June 9. She calls Jesse when her car is at Amscott, he can't make it over there. Did she want Jesse's fingerprints on her car ?
.
Or have I taken what this B is capable of too far ? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 10:14:14 PM
I think that al of Casey's " friends ", the people that she hung around with at that time or had any contact with like Ricardo, Tony L, Jesse, Amy and Chris Stultz are damn lucky it isn't them who are mentioned as being the accomplices in the OS.
..
Do you think she was going to try to set up Chris / She calls him from jail, so of course the police are going to ask him : What / Why / What is your relationship or connection  in this mess ?
She visits Chris on the 17th being upset over her parents divorce and then, the Stultz family finds Caylee's swim stuff. She spent the night of June 9 over at Ricardo's, the date of the last seen Caylee is given as June 9. She calls Jesse when her car is at Amscott, he can't make it over there. Did she want Jesse's fingerprints on her car ?
.
Or have I taken what this B is capable of too far ? 


No....don't put anything past her....she is evil...evil....evil....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 10:15:02 PM
The previous poster pulled information from 2 different school districts in two different counties. Colonial's 9th grade center is at 7775 Valencia College Lane. Both the high school and the 9th grade center are a good distance away from Rollins College (in fact Rollins is in the Winter Park Fl area, a sub of Orlando). About 30 minutes depending on traffic. I don't see any correlation between them. There is a popular street in Winter Park called Park Ave. that has some cute shops and restaurants. If casey wanted to try to blend in with the artsy Rollins students she would have strolled Park. There are oaks and camphors on just about every street in Central Florida.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:15:51 PM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-relatives-call-sexual-molestation-claims-made-the-casey-anthony-case-preposterous-video


George Anthony's Relatives Call Sexual Molestation Claims Made in the Casey Anthony Case Preposterous

May 29th, 2011 5:25 pm ET



http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-family-calls-sex-abuse-claims-casey-anthony-case-despicable

George Anthony's family calls sex abuse claims in Casey Anthony case despicable

May 29th, 2011 5:22 pm ET
Cindy Adams




That is what the family ... even the mother ... of my daughter's close friend when she revealed at the age of twenty-nine after years of rebellion/promiscuity the hell she experienced by her father as a child.  It didn't happen immediately but the father did eventually condede to the family that his daughter was being truthful.

Casey could be lying regarding the sexual abuse and ... then again she may not.  Unless any of us were a fly on the wall of the Anthony home .....

Janet

This is so true Janet.... No one would have thought Scumbag Lewis would kill Kaitlin Aydell and turn out to be a perv...but he did and he was....you just never know what goes on behind closed doors....

Nevertheless ...  sexual abuse that may have occured does not justify Casey doing harm to her daughter.  Sexual abuse that may have occured does not justify disposing of her precious child like she was trash.  Casey  msst be held accountable.  Justice for Caylee demands it.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
I think that al of Casey's " friends ", the people that she hung around with at that time or had any contact with like Ricardo, Tony L, Jesse, Amy and Chris Stultz are damn lucky it isn't them who are mentioned as being the accomplices in the OS.
..
Do you think she was going to try to set up Chris / She calls him from jail, so of course the police are going to ask him : What / Why / What is your relationship or connection  in this mess ?
She visits Chris on the 17th being upset over her parents divorce and then, the Stultz family finds Caylee's swim stuff. She spent the night of June 9 over at Ricardo's, the date of the last seen Caylee is given as June 9. She calls Jesse when her car is at Amscott, he can't make it over there. Did she want Jesse's fingerprints on her car ?
.
Or have I taken what this B is capable of too far ? 


No....don't put anything past her....she is evil...evil....evil....
maybe she wanted to tell chris not to mention what she said to him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 10:23:45 PM
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-relatives-call-sexual-molestation-claims-made-the-casey-anthony-case-preposterous-video


George Anthony's Relatives Call Sexual Molestation Claims Made in the Casey Anthony Case Preposterous

May 29th, 2011 5:25 pm ET



http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/george-anthony-s-family-calls-sex-abuse-claims-casey-anthony-case-despicable

George Anthony's family calls sex abuse claims in Casey Anthony case despicable

May 29th, 2011 5:22 pm ET
Cindy Adams




That is what the family ... even the mother ... of my daughter's close friend when she revealed at the age of twenty-nine after years of rebellion/promiscuity the hell she experienced by her father as a child.  It didn't happen immediately but the father did eventually condede to the family that his daughter was being truthful.

Casey could be lying regarding the sexual abuse and ... then again she may not.  Unless any of us were a fly on the wall of the Anthony home .....

Janet

This is so true Janet.... No one would have thought Scumbag Lewis would kill Kaitlin Aydell and turn out to be a perv...but he did and he was....you just never know what goes on behind closed doors....

Nevertheless ...  sexual abuse that may have occured does not justify Casey doing harm to her daughter.  Sexual abuse that may have occured does not justify disposing of her precious child like she was trash.  Casey  msst be held accountable.  Justice for Caylee demands it.

Janet


I totally agree... there is NO excuse for what  she did to Caylee....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 10:36:00 PM
snipped:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=450

Jesse Grunds  audio interviews by LE in late July, when he was trying to put together a timeline, and 2 PDFs of interviews, one with Jesse and one with his father in Sept 2008.

In the first audio interview, (around 11.30 mark)  ... Jesse is going thru the timeline and is in the second week of June, talking about KC's housing situation:
her mother was getting a condo, her parents were most likely getting divorced, her mom was signing the home over to Casey, and Amy would be her roommate.

As Jesse gets to the end of the week, he is at Friday June 13, he goes on..."... it had dragged on..."
and then he refers to his phone call with KC on MONDAY JUNE 16 (it's in discovery here at about 2-3 pm):
Jesse says: "it was not a normal conversation... her whole falling out with mom over this" Jesse called her and the phone call lasted 12 minutes

"...at this point her dad's gonna work on stuff... my mom's not moving out anymore, they are getting divorced, and my mom wants me out of the house...."

and then he repeats it again: "...her mom was no longer moving out anymore,
casey had to find a place to live,
she could not stay at home
and her parents were getting divorced."

~~~~~within a few hours of this conversation Caylee died~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.wftv.com/video/17557465/index.html
p://www.wftv.com/video/17556845/index.html

Jesse will be a key witness when the time is right. I guess that would explain why Cindy didn't expect to see Caylee for a couple of days. She knew KC was probably upset over their spat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 30, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
snipped:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=450

Jesse Grunds  audio interviews by LE in late July, when he was trying to put together a timeline, and 2 PDFs of interviews, one with Jesse and one with his father in Sept 2008.

In the first audio interview, (around 11.30 mark)  ... Jesse is going thru the timeline and is in the second week of June, talking about KC's housing situation:
her mother was getting a condo, her parents were most likely getting divorced, her mom was signing the home over to Casey, and Amy would be her roommate.

As Jesse gets to the end of the week, he is at Friday June 13, he goes on..."... it had dragged on..."
and then he refers to his phone call with KC on MONDAY JUNE 16 (it's in discovery here at about 2-3 pm):
Jesse says: "it was not a normal conversation... her whole falling out with mom over this" Jesse called her and the phone call lasted 12 minutes

"...at this point her dad's gonna work on stuff... my mom's not moving out anymore, they are getting divorced, and my mom wants me out of the house...."

and then he repeats it again: "...her mom was no longer moving out anymore,
casey had to find a place to live,
she could not stay at home
and her parents were getting divorced."

~~~~~within a few hours of this conversation Caylee died~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.wftv.com/video/17557465/index.html
p://www.wftv.com/video/17556845/index.html

Jesse will be a key witness when the time is right. I guess that would explain why Cindy didn't expect to see Caylee for a couple of days. She knew KC was probably upset over their spat.


those pdf's  mentioned! can be viewed at the hinky link above . for some reason if you go to those links from there they work. but I tried to add them here and they didnt work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 10:43:13 PM
So did lee get immunity or not..and sorry if I was not soppose to put that up there like that. But the link would not work. I am referring to what I found out about lee and if he did get immunity or if he didn't. Sorry didn't know any other way to do it :(

Yes he got limited immunity.

I am of the opinion that Cindy, George and Lee have all "fibbed" to a certain extent IN THE PAST to protect Casey.  I don't believe they are fibbing now

ITA KLAAS.  It seems like this family has finally turned a corner.   ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on May 30, 2011, 10:44:29 PM
I think that al of Casey's " friends ", the people that she hung around with at that time or had any contact with like Ricardo, Tony L, Jesse, Amy and Chris Stultz are damn lucky it isn't them who are mentioned as being the accomplices in the OS.
..
Do you think she was going to try to set up Chris / She calls him from jail, so of course the police are going to ask him : What / Why / What is your relationship or connection  in this mess ?
She visits Chris on the 17th being upset over her parents divorce and then, the Stultz family finds Caylee's swim stuff. She spent the night of June 9 over at Ricardo's, the date of the last seen Caylee is given as June 9. She calls Jesse when her car is at Amscott, he can't make it over there. Did she want Jesse's fingerprints on her car ?
.
Or have I taken what this B is capable of too far ? 


No....don't put anything past her....she is evil...evil....evil....
maybe she wanted to tell chris not to mention what she said to him?
Even better as it was on a monitored jail call.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 10:44:53 PM
Casey's Brother Files Motion To Be In Courtroom For Trial
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Casey Anthony will be back in an Orange County courtroom for day 17 of her murder trial on Tuesday and before the jury hears any testimony, the judge is expected to hear a new motion.
The motion was filed by Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, who is also a witness in the case. The motion was filed on Saturday by Lee Anthony’s attorney, Mark Lippman, who is also representing George and Cindy Anthony. Lee Anthony wants to sit in on the trial and hear testimony from other witnesses, but typically witnesses aren't allowed to be in court to hear other testimony.

Sounds like that is the motion we'll be hearing about tomorrow morning at 8:30.

I did not realize Mark Lippman was also Lee's attorney.....

I didn't either.  Lippman is fairly new to the Anthony's.  Was he retained when they found out that Casey was going to throw them under the bus?

I think he was hire shortly after Brad Conway resigned

http://www.wesh.com/r/24767709/detail.html

Report: Cindy, George Anthony Hire New Lawyers
Casey Anthony's Parents Hire New Attorney After Brad Conway Resigns

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/24767709/detail.html#ixzz1NsZbIZFd
 ::snipping2::


How many attorneys have the Anthony's been through now Sunny? It gives me a headache to try to keep up sometimes...

I think Lippman is number 4. First was an attorney who worked primarily with workmans comp, then Mark, then Conway and now Lippman....I think they also had real estate attorney

I was thinking that the attorney that deals with workers' comp is that guy who is a long-term friend of George's - just someone they asked advice for at the very beginning  of where do we go from here....don't know if he was actually a retained attorney.

Does anyone else know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 10:47:08 PM
Well... It looks like I will have another week of no sleep due to staying up half the night listening to testimonies, so going to call it a night. I am going to say a prayer that all the Anthony family does the right thing by Caylee and tells the truth....As far as Casey is concerned ....ain't gonna happen....that girl is like Rosemary's Baby or something.....
Keep up the good work monkeys! Thinking we just have to keep the faith and pray for Justice for Caylee....I am anxious for Lee's testimony and the rest of Cindy's. This trial is like a box of chocolates....we never know what we are going to get....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on May 30, 2011, 10:48:59 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400
she made some sense regarding holt! remember in a jailhouse video she said"she is close to holt" maybe she got scared that after saying she was close to holt ! LE may look there! JMO

comment from Magpie:

Lee said in his civil deposition that he attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. Cindy said in her SAO depostion that Lee and Casey went to the Ninth Grade Center. She didn't mention the location, but I presume that both Lee and Casey attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. The address is 528 Huntington Ave. I googled and found out that there is a Holt Ave, and also a Holt Dr., close to the Ninth Grade Center. The distance is less than half a mile. The address of Rollins college is 1000 Holt Ave. It is less than a mile from the Ninth Grade Center. Rollins College is located in the historic, scenic area of Winter Park.

I heard that there are hidden pathways in the scenic area of Winter Park, and I read that there are streets lined with Camphor and Oak trees. According to Dr. Hall's October 2008 report, Cinnamon Camphor leaves and Oak twigs and leaves were in the plastic housing windshield of Casey's car. A Cinnamon Camphor leaf was under the right chassis behind the right front tire, and there were Cinnamon Camphor leaves in the spare tire well. I wonder if Casey disposed of Caylee's body in Winter Park, somewhere close to Holt Ave., at a specific place she had mentioned to Cindy that Lee would recognize as a place familiar to Casey and him. I wonder if Lee found Caylee's body and moved her to the wooded area off Suburban Dr. at some point.

On July 21, 2008, LE requested and obtained a court order authorizing the installation and use of mobile tracking device upon one or more vehicle operated by Casey, Cindy, George, Lee, and Tony Lazzaro. The order was good for 60 days. On October 7, 2008, a court order to extend the original order for another 60 days was obtained. Those were the only orders I recall seeing in the discovery documents, so I presume any mobile devices that had been installed were disabled between September 20 and October 7, 2008. I wonder if and when LE installed mobile tracking devices upon Cindy's, George's, and Lee's vehicles and if it was recorded that any of those vehicles were close to Holt Avenue in Winter Park during the time the devices were in use.

I somehow missed that they had gone to Winter Park's 9th grade center. My bigger question would be why? That school is not only in a different district but in a different county. We do have magnet schools that offer high school students different study programs (i.e. one school is law, one sciences) but that would explain one of the Anthony's qualifying into the program not both. Can you direct me to any link that discusses why they went to a school for one year that is so far out of their territory. TYIA


OMG - what a post - this is something I would have never put together.  Very interesting.
[/quote]

There was her first misconception..this poster at the Hinky Meter.

Casey was not saying Holt..she was saying Home.....She is close to Home


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:49:06 PM

Except Cindy said they had a very pleasant but emotional evening--the emotion was caused by seeing  what they thought might be the last pics of Mr. Pleasea.  That is not a truthful description of the evening.

Ex-fiancée Jesse Grund alleged Casey Anthony, mother fought
22 December 2008 @ 01:43 pm EDT


The ex-fiancée of Casey Anthony alleged that she and her mother got into a big argument the night before Casey's daughter Caylee went missing.

Jesse Grund told Sherriff's investigators about the incident in documents released by the State Attorney's Office in late November, saying he learned of it from Casey's brother Lee Anthony.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said, after a review of documents by Central Florida 13 news.

<snipped>

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081222/fianc-eacutejesse-grund-alleged-casey-anthony-mother-fought.htm
 

What to believe?  What to believe?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 10:50:36 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400
she made some sense regarding holt! remember in a jailhouse video she said"she is close to holt" maybe she got scared that after saying she was close to holt ! LE may look there! JMO

comment from Magpie:

Lee said in his civil deposition that he attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. Cindy said in her SAO depostion that Lee and Casey went to the Ninth Grade Center. She didn't mention the location, but I presume that both Lee and Casey attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. The address is 528 Huntington Ave. I googled and found out that there is a Holt Ave, and also a Holt Dr., close to the Ninth Grade Center. The distance is less than half a mile. The address of Rollins college is 1000 Holt Ave. It is less than a mile from the Ninth Grade Center. Rollins College is located in the historic, scenic area of Winter Park.

I heard that there are hidden pathways in the scenic area of Winter Park, and I read that there are streets lined with Camphor and Oak trees. According to Dr. Hall's October 2008 report, Cinnamon Camphor leaves and Oak twigs and leaves were in the plastic housing windshield of Casey's car. A Cinnamon Camphor leaf was under the right chassis behind the right front tire, and there were Cinnamon Camphor leaves in the spare tire well. I wonder if Casey disposed of Caylee's body in Winter Park, somewhere close to Holt Ave., at a specific place she had mentioned to Cindy that Lee would recognize as a place familiar to Casey and him. I wonder if Lee found Caylee's body and moved her to the wooded area off Suburban Dr. at some point.

On July 21, 2008, LE requested and obtained a court order authorizing the installation and use of mobile tracking device upon one or more vehicle operated by Casey, Cindy, George, Lee, and Tony Lazzaro. The order was good for 60 days. On October 7, 2008, a court order to extend the original order for another 60 days was obtained. Those were the only orders I recall seeing in the discovery documents, so I presume any mobile devices that had been installed were disabled between September 20 and October 7, 2008. I wonder if and when LE installed mobile tracking devices upon Cindy's, George's, and Lee's vehicles and if it was recorded that any of those vehicles were close to Holt Avenue in Winter Park during the time the devices were in use.

I somehow missed that they had gone to Winter Park's 9th grade center. My bigger question would be why? That school is not only in a different district but in a different county. We do have magnet schools that offer high school students different study programs (i.e. one school is law, one sciences) but that would explain one of the Anthony's qualifying into the program not both. Can you direct me to any link that discusses why they went to a school for one year that is so far out of their territory. TYIA


OMG - what a post - this is something I would have never put together.  Very interesting.

There was her first misconception..this poster at the Hinky Meter.

Casey was not saying Holt..she was saying Home.....She is close to Home
[/quote]


LOL...yes she was....She is close to HOME....and poor thing was...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:51:33 PM
Well... It looks like I will have another week of no sleep due to staying up half the night listening to testimonies, so going to call it a night. I am going to say a prayer that all the Anthony family does the right thing by Caylee and tells the truth....As far as Casey is concerned ....ain't gonna happen....that girl is like Rosemary's Baby or something.....
Keep up the good work monkeys! Thinking we just have to keep the faith and pray for Justice for Caylee....I am anxious for Lee's testimony and the rest of Cindy's. This trial is like a box of chocolates....we never know what we are going to get....


 ::rhino::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 30, 2011, 10:52:10 PM
Gypsy... I am sorry... I have no idea how I messed up your post..... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 10:58:53 PM
Considering where Caylee's remains were located ... could it be the Casey was giving her brother a clue as to where her daughter's remains were disposed.

Janet

++++

Jailhouse Conversations to be Released
July 29, 2008


<snipped>

Two conversations between Casey Anthony and her brother Lee were released on Monday but revealed few clues other than Casey Anthony's expressing her "gut feeling" that Caylee is OK and "close to home."

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=5473959&page=1




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2011, 11:02:08 PM
So did lee get immunity or not..and sorry if I was not soppose to put that up there like that. But the link would not work. I am referring to what I found out about lee and if he did get immunity or if he didn't. Sorry didn't know any other way to do it :(

Yes he got limited immunity.

I am of the opinion that Cindy, George and Lee have all "fibbed" to a certain extent IN THE PAST to protect Casey.  I don't believe they are fibbing now

ITA KLAAS.  It seems like this family has finally turned a corner.   ::MonkeyCheer4::

So far.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2011, 11:05:19 PM
Right Brandi - so far


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 11:06:25 PM
Think about Jose Baez's opening statement regarding the despicable accusations against Lee Anthony and then think about Mallory Parker's "gushing" response to questioning in regards to Casey's relationship with Caylee.  Amazing?  Special bond?  Would "good" not have sufficed when the defamation of her fiancee is considered.

There is something wrong with this picture.

IMO

Janet

+++++++

Page 2 of 2
ORLANDO, Fla. May 27, 2011
Testimony in Casey Anthony Murder Trial to Deathly Odor in Her Car


<snipped>

The morning started with an emotional moment when the fiancee of Casey Anthony's brother broke down in tears describing the young mom's relationship with her daughter Caylee.

"It was amazing," said Mallory Parker. "Casey and Caylee had a really, a very special bond."

Anthony, 25, also cried as she listened to her future sister-in-law describe how Anthony cared for Caylee.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-car-trunk-maggots-smell-death/story?id=13702807&page=2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 11:12:43 PM
I think that al of Casey's " friends ", the people that she hung around with at that time or had any contact with like Ricardo, Tony L, Jesse, Amy and Chris Stultz are damn lucky it isn't them who are mentioned as being the accomplices in the OS.
..
Do you think she was going to try to set up Chris / She calls him from jail, so of course the police are going to ask him : What / Why / What is your relationship or connection  in this mess ?
She visits Chris on the 17th being upset over her parents divorce and then, the Stultz family finds Caylee's swim stuff. She spent the night of June 9 over at Ricardo's, the date of the last seen Caylee is given as June 9. She calls Jesse when her car is at Amscott, he can't make it over there. Did she want Jesse's fingerprints on her car ?
.
Or have I taken what this B is capable of too far ? 

I think KC tried a number of different ways to "set up" that someone else is responsible.   ALL of that failed, so as an obvious last resort, she decided to bury her entire family.

No way in he77 this is an accident - she could have gotten out of an accident.  Accidents happen.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pinkbanana on May 30, 2011, 11:15:27 PM
Regarding the "fight" between Cindy and Ica...I don't take it as Cindy not telling the truth on the stand.

I take it as she just didn't mention it.  ::MonkeyTongue:: Why?, who knows but it could be that it never happened, it wasn't how Ica made it out to be or was told not to mention it yet.

As we know Cindy has diarrhea of the mouth and me thinks she would slipped it out if she could've.

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 11:15:43 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400
she made some sense regarding holt! remember in a jailhouse video she said"she is close to holt" maybe she got scared that after saying she was close to holt ! LE may look there! JMO

comment from Magpie:

Lee said in his civil deposition that he attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. Cindy said in her SAO depostion that Lee and Casey went to the Ninth Grade Center. She didn't mention the location, but I presume that both Lee and Casey attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. The address is 528 Huntington Ave. I googled and found out that there is a Holt Ave, and also a Holt Dr., close to the Ninth Grade Center. The distance is less than half a mile. The address of Rollins college is 1000 Holt Ave. It is less than a mile from the Ninth Grade Center. Rollins College is located in the historic, scenic area of Winter Park.

I heard that there are hidden pathways in the scenic area of Winter Park, and I read that there are streets lined with Camphor and Oak trees. According to Dr. Hall's October 2008 report, Cinnamon Camphor leaves and Oak twigs and leaves were in the plastic housing windshield of Casey's car. A Cinnamon Camphor leaf was under the right chassis behind the right front tire, and there were Cinnamon Camphor leaves in the spare tire well. I wonder if Casey disposed of Caylee's body in Winter Park, somewhere close to Holt Ave., at a specific place she had mentioned to Cindy that Lee would recognize as a place familiar to Casey and him. I wonder if Lee found Caylee's body and moved her to the wooded area off Suburban Dr. at some point.

On July 21, 2008, LE requested and obtained a court order authorizing the installation and use of mobile tracking device upon one or more vehicle operated by Casey, Cindy, George, Lee, and Tony Lazzaro. The order was good for 60 days. On October 7, 2008, a court order to extend the original order for another 60 days was obtained. Those were the only orders I recall seeing in the discovery documents, so I presume any mobile devices that had been installed were disabled between September 20 and October 7, 2008. I wonder if and when LE installed mobile tracking devices upon Cindy's, George's, and Lee's vehicles and if it was recorded that any of those vehicles were close to Holt Avenue in Winter Park during the time the devices were in use.

I somehow missed that they had gone to Winter Park's 9th grade center. My bigger question would be why? That school is not only in a different district but in a different county. We do have magnet schools that offer high school students different study programs (i.e. one school is law, one sciences) but that would explain one of the Anthony's qualifying into the program not both. Can you direct me to any link that discusses why they went to a school for one year that is so far out of their territory. TYIA


OMG - what a post - this is something I would have never put together.  Very interesting.

There was her first misconception..this poster at the Hinky Meter.

Casey was not saying Holt..she was saying Home.....She is close to Home
[/quote]

Gypsy - TY

That's what I "thought" it was...she's close to "home"....and she was....a small kernel of truth!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
According to the video ... the show of affection afforded his sister happened one month FOLLOWING the released jailhouse letters which accused Lee of sexually molesting Casey.  I just don't get it.

Janet

++++

Lee To Sister Casey Anthony In Court: 'I Love You'
POSTED: 6:19 pm EDT July 15, 2010
UPDATED: 6:28 pm EDT July 15, 2010


<snipped>

When Lee walked up to the witness stand and saw Casey for the first time in a long time, the two had an emotional exchange.

Lee could be seen mouthing “I love you” to his sister, Casey.

“I’m assuming you weren’t speaking to me just now,” prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick responded.

“Absolutely not,” Lee said.

<snipped>

Video
http://www.wesh.com/news/24276106/detail.html#ixzz1NVb64RZR


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 11:19:48 PM

Except Cindy said they had a very pleasant but emotional evening--the emotion was caused by seeing  what they thought might be the last pics of Mr. Pleasea.  That is not a truthful description of the evening.

Ex-fiancée Jesse Grund alleged Casey Anthony, mother fought
22 December 2008 @ 01:43 pm EDT


The ex-fiancée of Casey Anthony alleged that she and her mother got into a big argument the night before Casey's daughter Caylee went missing.

Jesse Grund told Sherriff's investigators about the incident in documents released by the State Attorney's Office in late November, saying he learned of it from Casey's brother Lee Anthony.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said, after a review of documents by Central Florida 13 news.

<snipped>

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081222/fianc-eacutejesse-grund-alleged-casey-anthony-mother-fought.htm
 

What to believe?  What to believe?

I've mostly thought that KC killed Caylee because (as Cindy's mother, Shirley, said) KC hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee.  Jesse disclosing that Lee told him about a big fight the night before and Cindy throttling KC has always fit into my thinking.  Now...I believe Lee told that to Jessee....but whether or not KC told Lee the truth is another question.  However, IIRC, there were neighbors who heard a very loud argument, with KC cursing her mother, on Father's Day night.  So, I believe there was an argument and we just don't know about the choking part.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 11:23:02 PM

Except Cindy said they had a very pleasant but emotional evening--the emotion was caused by seeing  what they thought might be the last pics of Mr. Pleasea.  That is not a truthful description of the evening.

Ex-fiancée Jesse Grund alleged Casey Anthony, mother fought
22 December 2008 @ 01:43 pm EDT


The ex-fiancée of Casey Anthony alleged that she and her mother got into a big argument the night before Casey's daughter Caylee went missing.

Jesse Grund told Sherriff's investigators about the incident in documents released by the State Attorney's Office in late November, saying he learned of it from Casey's brother Lee Anthony.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said, after a review of documents by Central Florida 13 news.

<snipped>

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081222/fianc-eacutejesse-grund-alleged-casey-anthony-mother-fought.htm
 

What to believe?  What to believe?

Maybe another lie concocted to gain the attention of and sympathy from Mr. Grund


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on May 30, 2011, 11:23:03 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO
She also wanted someone to steal the car too so that would help her case out a little bit I think.  So she could follow the script the Zanny left her with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2011, 11:24:07 PM
Can't wait for court tomorrow...Cindy is supposed to be back on..the 911 tape is also supposed to be played from what one of the talking heads said..

I am sooooooo ready for some more of Casey's antics which she can't control..hope that the jury is taking all of this in...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Puzzler on May 30, 2011, 11:25:10 PM
Think about Jose Baez's opening statement regarding the despicable accusations against Lee Anthony and then think about Mallory Parker's "gushing" response to questioning in regards to Casey's relationship with Caylee.  Amazing?  Special bond?  Would "good" not have sufficed when the defamation of her fiancee is considered.

There is something wrong with this picture.

IMO

Janet

+++++++

Page 2 of 2
ORLANDO, Fla. May 27, 2011
Testimony in Casey Anthony Murder Trial to Deathly Odor in Her Car


<snipped>

The morning started with an emotional moment when the fiancee of Casey Anthony's brother broke down in tears describing the young mom's relationship with her daughter Caylee.

"It was amazing," said Mallory Parker. "Casey and Caylee had a really, a very special bond."

Anthony, 25, also cried as she listened to her future sister-in-law describe how Anthony cared for Caylee.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-car-trunk-maggots-smell-death/story?id=13702807&page=2


Agree.  Mallory was over the top (not trying to start rumors...but wonder if she's pregnant?)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 30, 2011, 11:27:48 PM
According to the video ... the show of affection afforded his sister happened one month FOLLOWING the released jailhouse letters which accused Lee of sexually molesting Casey.  I just don't get it.

Janet

++++

Lee To Sister Casey Anthony In Court: 'I Love You'
POSTED: 6:19 pm EDT July 15, 2010
UPDATED: 6:28 pm EDT July 15, 2010


<snipped>

When Lee walked up to the witness stand and saw Casey for the first time in a long time, the two had an emotional exchange.

Lee could be seen mouthing “I love you” to his sister, Casey.

“I’m assuming you weren’t speaking to me just now,” prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick responded.

“Absolutely not,” Lee said.

<snipped>

Video
http://www.wesh.com/news/24276106/detail.html#ixzz1NVb64RZR

“I’m assuming you weren’t speaking to me just now,” prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick responded. >>>I think this exchange is hilarious  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 30, 2011, 11:37:58 PM
According to the video ... the show of affection afforded his sister happened one month FOLLOWING the released jailhouse letters which accused Lee of sexually molesting Casey.  I just don't get it.

Janet

++++

Lee To Sister Casey Anthony In Court: 'I Love You'
POSTED: 6:19 pm EDT July 15, 2010
UPDATED: 6:28 pm EDT July 15, 2010


<snipped>

When Lee walked up to the witness stand and saw Casey for the first time in a long time, the two had an emotional exchange.

Lee could be seen mouthing “I love you” to his sister, Casey.

“I’m assuming you weren’t speaking to me just now,” prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick responded.

“Absolutely not,” Lee said.

<snipped>

Video
http://www.wesh.com/news/24276106/detail.html#ixzz1NVb64RZR

“I’m assuming you weren’t speaking to me just now,” prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick responded. >>>I think this exchange is hilarious  ::MonkeyHaHa::

It was a quick comeback.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2011, 11:41:51 PM
::MonkeyBike::

Anyone on, that lives in Florida?
Is there anything around Johnson's Wrecker?  Stores, gas stations.
I'm in FL, but not the Orlando area. Not sure about a gas station near Johnson's wrecker, but this week prosecutor's entered into evidence a pic of Casey's car at Amscot and the surrounding area. There was a gas station right there! So KC's claim that her car "broke down" at Amscot was total bunk...big surprise. Fact is she dumped the car because of the decomp smell...MMO
She also wanted someone to steal the car too so that would help her case out a little bit I think.  So she could follow the script the Zanny left her with.

I always thought she set it up for someone to steal the car, and when it was recovered, it would appear that she and Caylee had been abducted.

But the fact that it was out of gas, makes me think maybe that was not the case. No one is going to steal a car that is out of gas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 31, 2011, 12:00:46 AM
Can't wait for court tomorrow...Cindy is supposed to be back on..the 911 tape is also supposed to be played from what one of the talking heads said..

I am sooooooo ready for some more of Casey's antics which she can't control..hope that the jury is taking all of this in...


Casey seems to control herself somewhat in front of the jury. The crying and crap was out of the sight of the jury. I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:04:23 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 31, 2011, 12:09:48 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!

Welcome to the cage californiagirl!

Your input to the Caylee Marie forum would be appreciated.

Good Night All.  See ya in the morning.

Janet
9:05 PM PT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
AWESOME! Thanks a bunch!!  I warned you though.. its long -!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 31, 2011, 12:15:40 AM
VIDEO REPORT: Casey's Brother Files Motion http://www.wftv.com/video/28074771/index.html

 ::HelloKitty:: ::MonkeyKiss::
Hey Sunny!  ::HelloKitty::
Can't wait to hear Baez's objection to this,and I am not sure about Lee.
I hope when he finally does testify,that he remembers who the victim in this case is.  ::MonkeyAngel::

since the judge allowed ca & ga is there any reason NOT to allow Lee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Shell on May 31, 2011, 12:16:28 AM
AWESOME! Thanks a bunch!!  I warned you though.. its long -!!!



That's ok, we can take it  ::MonkeyGavel::

You and your opinions are welcomed to the cage  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:16:57 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!

Welcome Californiagirl! - go ahead and post your thoughts.  In general, posting your thoughts should be just fine.  I'll let you know if something is wrong.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:17:39 AM
VIDEO REPORT: Casey's Brother Files Motion http://www.wftv.com/video/28074771/index.html

 ::HelloKitty:: ::MonkeyKiss::
Hey Sunny!  ::HelloKitty::
Can't wait to hear Baez's objection to this,and I am not sure about Lee.
I hope when he finally does testify,that he remembers who the victim in this case is.  ::MonkeyAngel::

since the judge allowed ca & ga is there any reason NOT to allow Lee?

Not that I'm aware of. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 31, 2011, 12:18:02 AM
2.  Why did she change her clothing?

A.  Considering a deceased Caylee was discovered wearing difference clothes than George described when Casey and his granddaughter left the home on June 16th ... could it be that vomit/body fluids were already escaping and had soiled Caylee's clothes when Casey discovered that Caylee was deceased.



HI TAMIKOSMOM!!

What did George state Caylee was wearing when Caylee was last seen by him?


Casey Anthony Trial Today
Tuesday, May 24, 2011
GEORGE ANTHONY ON THE STAND


<snipped>

George states he wakes up around 7am when Cindy has left or is going to work. He has coffee and spends time with Caylee.  He would help her to the BR and assist her with brushing he teeth. He would help her with breakfast. It was "a great morning' per George. Caylees favorite videos were 101 Dalmations and Lady in the Tramp. He recalls first seeing Casey around 10am.  He is not sure as he cherished "morning time" with Caylee.Casey left the house around  , he remembers watching the food channel, Caylee was wearing blue jeans and pink top, and Caylee said she was going to see Zanny when asked.

<snipped>

http://caseyanthonytrialtodayinreview.blogspot.com/2011/05/george-anthony-on-stand.html


Defense: Caylee drowned in her grandparents' pool
May 25, 2011 -- Updated 0159 GMT (0959 HKT
)

<snipped>

Baez also attempted to cast doubt on George Anthony's recall of what Caylee was wearing the day he last saw her, suggesting he would likely not have retained that detail as he didn't know it was the last time he would see her. George Anthony completed his testimony on Tuesday but could be recalled to the stand later.

<snipped

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/24/florida.casey.anthony.trial/index.html


Heart sticker, Pooh blanket, and clothing found with Caylee
January 21st, 2009 4:36 pm ET


<snipped>

Also found was a Winnie the Pooh blanket, a plastic toy, and clothing--a pair of white shorts and a size 3T shirt.  Cloth iron-on letters were also in the bag.

The clothing in the bag was not the same clothing George Anthony had described as Caylee wearing when he last saw her alive on June 16, 2008.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/heart-sticker-pooh-blanket-and-clothing-found-with-caylee


I have to be honest and say that George was very much lying to LE at that point and the entire family was in coverup mode.

I did not then 'when I first read George's "talks" with LE and the FBI..and I do not now, believe the description he gave was accurate.  I don't think the description of clothes she was wearing , nor the back pack she was suppose to have with her were correct.  I think that because a month had passed in truth George had no idea of what Caylee had on that particular morning.  It had been a month..and George did not know when they left that morning he would never see her again..so I doubt he memorized what she was wearing to know this a month later.  That's why you will not hear the State during this trial ask George much from those initial interviews.  They ask him how he remembers it now,,because now he is telling the truth.

Infact if you read through that very lenghty interview and then progress further, because there are literally pages of interviews all together in that section, there is a page where LE states in their report that they do not believe the A's are being open and honest with them.   Perfect example..oringinally Cindy couldn't pinpoint the date for LE of the pool ladder incident...but Mark Fuhrman asked the question a few days later and she didn't hesitate to give him the date.  Mark gave that info to LE.


I think that is the biggest thing that can hurt this case at this point is the fact that all the A's were in cover up mode and not honest or cooperative with LE.

I am hoping that George and Cindy got use immunity , as Lee seems to have..and I think then they maybe able to clear up some things.

I think that Dom Casey and Jim Hoover also got use immunity for their depos.

I think that because Dom Casey had worked for Baez first..he had some inkling from Baez of possibly where Caylee maybe ..he obviously was awfully close on the day he and Jim Hoover went looking for her.  I think the story in the Baez office early on was that this was an accident that snowballed, Casey panicked and left Caylee in a wooded area.
I think that lead to Dom and Jim being on Suburban and the A's new at that time Caylee was infact deceased, but thought it was an accident. The reason for Cindy's drugged State in the one morning show around the same time.  Dom didn't find the body..but just a few weeks later Roy Kronk did..and the rest is history.

Do I think anybody other then Casey did this..no.
But I think that the A's never thought things would take the nasty turn that they did in opening statements either.

Is "Use Immunity" something that is allowed to be kept private?  Is it possible we will never know or will it eventually become "public"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:19:43 AM
Hi everyone – It’s so nice to see likeminded individuals who are equally as obsessed with this case. I hope that I don’t piss anyone off by posting a long ass message, and yes, it pertains to what everyone has been talking about. So, I hope this is okay!!  I have a lot of points I am questioning and I have a lot to say, so I hope I hear back from at least one person so I can hear what you are thinking.
None of my ‘real life’ friends are following the case and I work at home so I can have In Session on all day long, then HLN, then Nancy Grace or Jane Velez Mitchell… So yeah, I’m obsessed!  I recorded it in case I missed anything during a needed soda retrieval or bathroom break! Thank gawd I don’t have any kids to take care of. Thank gawd cats are self-sufficient for the most part!!

So, let’s get to the point(s)…  Casey is giving those of us who have had mortifying childhoods and poor upbringing in general. I basically raised myself… When I wasn’t being abused physically by my mother and sexually by my step-father from the ages of  9-14, my whole life was turned upside down as it was in the hands of my ex stepfather and I had to ‘play wife’ with him obviously against my will.  It was life altering on so many levels. That ‘experience’ has affected my whole life. It affected my ability to perform at work, school, friendships with men, my sex life, relationships with men, and my marriage.
However, a strange thing happened. Even though all of these horrible things happened to me – I never did any of the things that Casey has done. With the exception of the whole sex thing, because when I was 18 and had sex with a boy my age and willingly thank you very much – I actually opened the flood gates. I loved sex. But my boyfriend and I broke up and then I figured out a way to get close with a boy was to have sex... I thought I could have a relationship with a boy by starting off with sex. This lasted through the middle of my 20’s until I met my lovely husband whom I am married to this very day and we’ve been together for almost 15 years!  A lot of girls do the same thing but they haven’t been molested and raped as a child. They are just confused and are ‘boy struck’… I loved getting that attention from boys. But eventually it was negative attention and then that’s all they wanted was to get laid. I learned my lesson the hard way.

Even though really shitty things happened to me as a little girl, they did not mold me to be the person that I am today. Yeah, I have issues but I don’t impose my bullshit that I am dealing with in my own brain and spirit onto other people to hurt them, or to lie, or steal, or kill my child (or cats).
Somehow I ended up normal for the most part, I mean we all have our shit. And yeah, I suffer from depression and insomnia to this day, but I don’t steal, I don’t lie, I don’t kill small animals or children.
Casey’s lies about her father are OBVIOUS. As far as Lee, don’t have an opinion. I don’t believe for a second George touched her nor Caylee (I could be wrong, obviously). Casey is giving those of us who have had a terrible childhood a bad rap. But, I among sooo many other women are examples of what doesn’t always happen as a result of abuse.  I somehow ‘raised’ myself and understood right from wrong. I didn’t need to be taught that lies are wrong, that stealing is wrong, that killing and or covering up a death is WRONG.

I believe Cindy raised her granddaughter for the most part. And Casey was jealous – but, wanted to party so badly and be with Lazzarro so she did what she had to do. Now, with all the money she stole, it was only a matter of time before Amy, who she was supposed to move in with, found out about the theft. Casey was eventually going to be found out. So, she wanted to live it up as much as possible. And then, as usual, try to lie her way out of it by blaming sex abuse on her family and on a fake nanny  to get support from the public. Casey did it. I know she did it. PERIOD.

Segway to the meter reader. I want to know HOW Roy got the body of little Caylee – where did he find it? Did they polygraph him and ask if he moved it there? If no polygraph, then why? Did Casey ever get polygraphed? (I don’t remember)

They are saying that Roy Krock the meter reader moved the body and there were discrepancies as to supposedly what he said to the cops by saying he found a skull, but when police arrived the skull was in a zipped up bag…  If he moved it from where he found it, why wouldn’t he have left it? Regardless of WHERE Caylee was found, wouldn’t he still have collected the reward money regardless of where he found it – so the guy must be really stupid if he felt the need to move the body of little Caylee. What was the point in moving it? And if he really had been calling for several months – (which also doesn’t make sense) don’t you think he would have called the media or the F.B.I to say he’s been trying to call authorities to tell them about what he found???  And didn’t the area get searched AFTER his 1st and 2nd calls but he didn’t go out to show them where it was? There are a lot of contradictions there and I can’t create a scenario in my mind to try and fill in the blanks as it just really is the most confusing thing so far.

Lazzarro – did any of you feel that he was really REALLY cocky? I think he was being truthful though. But,  he was VERY cocky with that smirk he kept on his face virtually the whole time he was up there.
Also, didn’t one of the guys state that Casey was NOT a manager of the ‘shot girls’.. But then when the girls got up on the stand they said that they went to her for help.
I am 99% certain I remember hearing that one of the guys who worked with Lazzaro with that little party promoter thing at Fusion said she was not working for them. OR am I hallucinating… (I know I heard it from someone, but – I just can’t recall exactly. But I know it was someone who would have been involved with the party promotion thing which is why it stuck in my mind)
Jose Baez is just worthless. Defense attorneys are scum anyways when it comes to cases like this.. but, Baez takes the cake. There is something ‘off’ about this guy and I can’t quite put my finger on it besides the fact that he is a piece of work and poor Florida tax payers are footing the bill for Caseys defense.

About Caylees father.. Casey said he died in a car accident. If she knows this then why doesn’t she say where he died, what state, town date and time. Then, maybe that could be corroborated by getting DNA from his mother/father/sister etc. to prove or disprove if that is Caylees real father.  Now, I know that has NOTHING to do with this case, but, if someone DID do this – it would just prove that Casey is lying STILL. I believe that the father is alive and well – and she doesn’t have a clue who the daddy is because she has boned down with so many guys and she just doesn’t know… (again, a lie detector would prove/disprove if Casey is telling the truth about Caylees father, maybe the guy doesn’t even know he is the dad…. I certainly wouldn’t come out of the woodwork to say hey, it may be me if I boned down with Casey. I would have made a trip to the closest Planned Parenthood to be checked for STD’s ASAP…

I  obviously don’t  know if there is going to be some huge revelation that is going to prove she intentionally killed her daughter. If they don’t / can’t bring the proof, then this chick isn’t going to get the death penalty and she won’t get life in prison. They will get her on manslaughter or something in regards to allowing the death of her child due to neglect. That’s what I think. And I think she should get life in prison, and in solitary confinement. I don’t think she should be allowed to be with others even in jail because she thrives on attention. The worst thing that could happen to this chick is to disallow contact with the outside world. But we all know THAT isn’t going to happen. (and it’s bullcrap)..

Thoughts anyone?

Thanks for reading –

Kim





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:22:44 AM
Californiagirl - If you don't mind I'm going to edit your post a bit to put it into paragraphs so it's easier to read.  You can't do it, members can't edit but I can.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:25:25 AM
not a problem. I actully did put in paragraphs in outlook when I was writing it - then, when I copied the pasted it, for some reaon the paragraphphs merged together. And there isn't an edit button so Icouldn't fix it! Sorry about that!

Thanks again!

KIM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:27:49 AM
and apparently - I didn't proofread my last message and my keys are sticking! (so sorry) thanks again...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:28:49 AM
not a problem. I actully did put in paragraphs in outlook when I was writing it - then, when I copied the pasted it, for some reaon the paragraphphs merged together. And there isn't an edit button so Icouldn't fix it! Sorry about that!

Thanks again!

KIM

For future reference, as a rule of thumb it's not a great idea to tell too much personal information about yourself in open forums.  Sometimes it comes back to "bite" you.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:30:47 AM
Not sure if this has already been posted...

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28076152/detail.html

Body Language Expert On Cindy, Casey Anthony
Expert: 'She Is Probably Feeling Betrayed.'


POSTED: Monday, May 30, 2011
UPDATED: 9:40 pm EDT May 30, 2011

 ::snipping2::

What's behind these emotions? For an answer, Local 6 turned to body language expert Susan Constantine.

"She comes off the stand and there's not connection. She doesn't even look at the defense table," said Constantine.

As Constantine is shown video of Casey's reaction to her mother, she said Casey shows expressions of anger, sadness, grief and surprise. She said Casey's reaction to her mother's lack of eye contact was genuine.

"There are multiple types of emotions going through her right now," Constantine said. "She is probably feeling betrayed."

"They're on opposite ends of the world or they're not in agreement with one another," Constantine said. "When people avoid someone or avoid eye contact, there's a reason. Somehow maybe the relationship is breaking apart or emotionally they're at odds."

You might wonder what our expert thought about all the tears Casey shed when shown pictures of Caylee. Constantine said it's still a mystery whether those tears stemmed from genuine concern for her daughter, or for herself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 31, 2011, 12:31:40 AM
ok kinda embarassed to ask this! what does it mean when someone proffers a deal or something like that?



Just what is a proffer and what are the perils of entering into a proffer agreement (also known as a proffer letter) with the federal government? Proffer or "queen for a day" letters are written agreements between federal prosecutors and individuals under criminal investigation which permit these individuals to tell the government about their knowledge of crimes, with the supposed assurance that their words will not be used against them in any later proceedings. (The individuals can either be witnesses, subjects or targets of a federal investigation, although it is subjects and targets who provide most proffers.)
more on link
http://library.findlaw.com/2005/Feb/21/138691.html

thanks that helps me too!

so what's the difference between a proffer & immunity?  the federal government?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 31, 2011, 12:32:28 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!
welcome californiagirl
I am a california girl too!! these is a nice place to hang your hat.

ok so now while I am here I am wondering if baez will be responsible for the 68,000 owed to IRS?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:35:05 AM
Californiagirl - mostly I agree with you.  Tony Lazarro really did come off cocky the first day but he seemed less cocky in the following couple days.  I think Tony is ok.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:36:20 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!
welcome californiagirl
I am a california girl too!! these is a nice place to hang your hat.

ok so now while I am here I am wondering if baez will be responsible for the 68,000 owed to IRS?

Why would Baez be responsible for Casey's debt?  Even if Casey gave the money to Baez to cover his fees, Baez wouldn't be responsible to pay taxes on income that Casey received. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:40:34 AM
I TOTALLY agree with the personal info sharing, however I am a survivor and proud that I ended up fairly normal! lol.

Its specifically why  i made my email private!  :)

Thanks for letting me even share that - I just wanted to be a real example of someone who's been through it and came out okay.

So, thank you very much for lookin out. :)

And thanks everyone else for commenting already.

KIM
(and thks for fixing my post!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:41:35 AM
You're welcome!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 12:41:46 AM
Was it ever determined what the stains in Caylee's car seat were of?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post #16

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.20

Posts #24, #25


I believe they were "decomp" stains


The more I look though these pictures, the more I think they found blood on the car seat.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc65.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 31, 2011, 12:42:39 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!
welcome californiagirl
I am a california girl too!! these is a nice place to hang your hat.

ok so now while I am here I am wondering if baez will be responsible for the 68,000 owed to IRS?

Why would Baez be responsible for Casey's debt?  Even if Casey gave the money to Baez to cover his fees, Baez wouldn't be responsible to pay taxes on income that Casey received. 

Hahaha maybe they will put a hold on her account at the jail. But seriously didn't bozo have power of atty for her financials?  Or did she get the money while she was out of jail?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 12:44:43 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!
welcome californiagirl
I am a california girl too!! these is a nice place to hang your hat.

ok so now while I am here I am wondering if baez will be responsible for the 68,000 owed to IRS?

Why would Baez be responsible for Casey's debt?  Even if Casey gave the money to Baez to cover his fees, Baez wouldn't be responsible to pay taxes on income that Casey received.  

If he received the monies into his escrow account under her power of attorney and wrote the checks he would have to have filed an estimated tax return and pay the taxes before any monies could be disbursed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:44:49 AM
Was it ever determined what the stains in Caylee's car seat were of?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.0

Post #16

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9921.20

Posts #24, #25


I believe they were "decomp" stains


The more I look though these pictures, the more I think they found blood on the car seat.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc65.jpg)

Blood, vomit, decomp who knows but it looks like they definitely found something


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: klaasend on May 31, 2011, 12:45:48 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!
welcome californiagirl
I am a california girl too!! these is a nice place to hang your hat.

ok so now while I am here I am wondering if baez will be responsible for the 68,000 owed to IRS?

Why would Baez be responsible for Casey's debt?  Even if Casey gave the money to Baez to cover his fees, Baez wouldn't be responsible to pay taxes on income that Casey received.  

If he received the monies into his escrow account under her power of attorney and wrote the checks he would have to have filed an estimated tax return and pay the taxes before any monies could be disbursed.

Forgot about that power of attorney.  Right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 12:46:08 AM
AWESOME! Thanks a bunch!!  I warned you though.. its long -!!!



Lets do it...............Welcome.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:46:30 AM
 If they found blood, there would have been testing, and maybe they havent shared that with the public yet.
 
Maybe the prosecution has a magic card to share later...

And in that picture - it doesnt even look like a car seat. Where are the original photo posted?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 31, 2011, 12:47:37 AM
goodnight everyone
see yall here bright and early...
tomorrow should be filled with drama and very informative.

justice for caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 12:48:36 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!
welcome californiagirl
I am a california girl too!! these is a nice place to hang your hat.

ok so now while I am here I am wondering if baez will be responsible for the 68,000 owed to IRS?

Why would Baez be responsible for Casey's debt?  Even if Casey gave the money to Baez to cover his fees, Baez wouldn't be responsible to pay taxes on income that Casey received.  

If he received the monies into his escrow account under her power of attorney and wrote the checks he would have to have filed an estimated tax return and pay the taxes before any monies could be disbursed.

Forgot about that power of attorney.  Right!

It would actually be him and his law firm who would be responsible for those taxes, not KC because he was the receiver and did the disbursal of the funds.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: loca on May 31, 2011, 12:49:01 AM
I have been glued to all of this as well Since all this started in 2008. And now - glued again... I was wondering - have alot to say about the trial. Can I post it here? I have multiple things I want to bring up and want peoples thoughts.

Let me know if that is okay, I don't want to piss anyone off as I am new to the site!
welcome californiagirl
I am a california girl too!! these is a nice place to hang your hat.

ok so now while I am here I am wondering if baez will be responsible for the 68,000 owed to IRS?

Why would Baez be responsible for Casey's debt?  Even if Casey gave the money to Baez to cover his fees, Baez wouldn't be responsible to pay taxes on income that Casey received.  

If he received the monies into his escrow account under her power of attorney and wrote the checks he would have to have filed an estimated tax return and pay the taxes before any monies could be disbursed.

turbo
thanks... thats what I thought!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:50:31 AM
I saw the links- my bad!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
If they found blood, there would have been testing, and maybe they havent shared that with the public yet.
 
Maybe the prosecution has a magic card to share later...

And in that picture - it doesnt even look like a car seat. Where are the original photo posted?



I think that is the pads which go across the front chest in a car seat. I can't give you the pdf on that because I just took pictures off of the evidence released photos I thought might be relevant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: beth1970 on May 31, 2011, 12:53:46 AM
According to the video ... the show of affection afforded his sister happened one month FOLLOWING the released jailhouse letters which accused Lee of sexually molesting Casey.  I just don't get it.

Janet

++++

Lee To Sister Casey Anthony In Court: 'I Love You'
POSTED: 6:19 pm EDT July 15, 2010
UPDATED: 6:28 pm EDT July 15, 2010


<snipped>

When Lee walked up to the witness stand and saw Casey for the first time in a long time, the two had an emotional exchange.

Lee could be seen mouthing “I love you” to his sister, Casey.

“I’m assuming you weren’t speaking to me just now,” prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick responded.

“Absolutely not,” Lee said.

<snipped>

Video
http://www.wesh.com/news/24276106/detail.html#ixzz1NVb64RZR

She said in one of her jailhouse letters that she told him she forgave him.  I've said before (and I'm an incest survivor) GA does NOT give me the sexual abuse vibe but the situation with Lee does.  If he DID molest her - or try to and she forgave him that would explain why he isn't ready to throw in the towel with her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 31, 2011, 12:53:46 AM
Welcome to the cage californiagirl! I am a west coaster too but Seattle area.
I am glad your life is much better now and that you made it better for yourself.

I cannot tell you how many times I have turned off InSession and HLN and learned not to believe everything Jane and Nancy say.

I listen to the trial live on www.wftv.com. In fact on the first page of each thread there are links to where you can watch it live.

5:30am is so early for me but it is so worth getting up early and watching from my computer.

WFTV has the entire trial so far linked up so you can listen and view anytime you want.
They have a huge archived section with documents and audio and video statements.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 12:59:09 AM
CAROLF

Thanks for the welcome!  AND I can't stand NG or JVM - I only watch the trial and mute all the crap during breaks!!

:)

I will check out your link!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 31, 2011, 01:09:40 AM
Well... I am back, I found a couple of testimonies that I had missed and am listening to them. I am listening to the blonde guy, I believe his name is William Waters? Anyway he is the one who had the 4th of July Party... I had to chuckle when he stated that he asked Casey to help Amy make sure no one stole from his house....what an oxymoron that is!!!!!

Welcome to the cage California Girl! Great first post! I don't think Casey will get the DP either, am fervantly hoping and praying for LWOP but like our Sunny, would be fine with two 30 yr sentances...to run consecutively....
I agree with you about George...actually agree with you on most of your post .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 01:09:41 AM
If they found blood, there would have been testing, and maybe they havent shared that with the public yet.
 
Maybe the prosecution has a magic card to share later...

And in that picture - it doesnt even look like a car seat. Where are the original photo posted?



I think that is the pads which go across the front chest in a car seat. I can't give you the pdf on that because I just took pictures off of the evidence released photos I thought might be relevant.

Thanks for the clarifiction!  I found the links and figured it out after I asked where the links were! (i spoke too soon - srry bout that)

KIM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 01:20:11 AM
I think that al of Casey's " friends ", the people that she hung around with at that time or had any contact with like Ricardo, Tony L, Jesse, Amy and Chris Stultz are damn lucky it isn't them who are mentioned as being the accomplices in the OS.
..
Do you think she was going to try to set up Chris / She calls him from jail, so of course the police are going to ask him : What / Why / What is your relationship or connection  in this mess ?
She visits Chris on the 17th being upset over her parents divorce and then, the Stultz family finds Caylee's swim stuff. She spent the night of June 9 over at Ricardo's, the date of the last seen Caylee is given as June 9. She calls Jesse when her car is at Amscott, he can't make it over there. Did she want Jesse's fingerprints on her car ?
.
Or have I taken what this B is capable of too far ? 

I think KC tried a number of different ways to "set up" that someone else is responsible.   ALL of that failed, so as an obvious last resort, she decided to bury her entire family.

No way in he77 this is an accident - she could have gotten out of an accident.  Accidents happen.


I also believe she tried to set someone else up for this and to be honest so did her parents. I have always wondered why she went to Jesse's to take a shower that day. I felt like she was up to something. Wondered if she left something of Caylee's there, or because she was in his bathroom took hair out of his brush or something to put at the crime scene. Then from jail she insinuates to her parents that Jesse was involved. I believe Jesse's and his father's testimony will crucify her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: IBE on May 31, 2011, 01:20:17 AM
 Help... need to set alarm.  Does it start at 9 or 9:30 ET? TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 31, 2011, 01:21:30 AM
Help... need to set alarm.  Does it start at 9 or 9:30 ET? TIA

8:30 eastern


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 01:26:00 AM
I kept looking at the winnie the pooh thing they found with Caylee. It did not match the one on the bed when Cindy did the interview with Greta. Then I found the pictures LE too which did not have one on it and then this one which was the one she had when younger. It does match if you blow up the item.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/l_509adc26281c4e90a7f4847fb408ed0c-1.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/jjki-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: cubbeegirl on May 31, 2011, 01:28:47 AM
I kept looking at the winnie the pooh thing they found with Caylee. It did not match the one on the bed when Cindy did the interview with Greta. Then I found the pictures LE too which did not have one on it and then this one which was the one she had when younger. It does match if you blow up the item.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/l_509adc26281c4e90a7f4847fb408ed0c-1.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/jjki-2.jpg)


Am I dreaming or didn't Cindy purchase another one at JCPenny? Or Someone did with Cindy's card? Someone correct me if I am wrong...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: CarolF on May 31, 2011, 01:32:20 AM
I kept looking at the winnie the pooh thing they found with Caylee. It did not match the one on the bed when Cindy did the interview with Greta. Then I found the pictures LE too which did not have one on it and then this one which was the one she had when younger. It does match if you blow up the item.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/l_509adc26281c4e90a7f4847fb408ed0c-1.jpg)

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/jjki-2.jpg)

Ya the winnie the pooh thing has always been a mystery. IMO I think Cindy replaced whatever she realized was missing from Caylee's room including that blanket. Only problem was she could not find an identical one. I could be all wrong on that but I always thought that was why she would not give the JC Penny receipts to the detectives.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 01:33:18 AM

Am I dreaming or didn't Cindy purchase another one at JCPenny? Or Someone did with Cindy's card? Someone correct me if I am wrong...

I always assumed she did since she refused to give that receipt to LE and then Lee took it to bozo. They were in full cover up mode then because when asked about it later, she said "I told them it was missing" when she never did. Here is that one.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/ayqbt1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 01:35:30 AM
Not sure what I was looking at in that previous picture with the detective.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/CAYLEEROOM.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 01:45:15 AM
If they found blood, there would have been testing, and maybe they havent shared that with the public yet.
 
Maybe the prosecution has a magic card to share later...

And in that picture - it doesnt even look like a car seat. Where are the original photo posted?



I think that is the pads which go across the front chest in a car seat. I can't give you the pdf on that because I just took pictures off of the evidence released photos I thought might be relevant.

thanks alot! I felt like a jackass because the links were right above your post! so, I spoke too soon. Sorry bout that. I tend to ask first and then look.. (oops!) 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: californiagirl on May 31, 2011, 01:58:51 AM
Well... I am back, I found a couple of testimonies that I had missed and am listening to them. I am listening to the blonde guy, I believe his name is William Waters? Anyway he is the one who had the 4th of July Party... I had to chuckle when he stated that he asked Casey to help Amy make sure no one stole from his house....what an oxymoron that is!!!!!

Welcome to the cage California Girl! Great first post! I don't think Casey will get the DP either, am fervantly hoping and praying for LWOP but like our Sunny, would be fine with two 30 yr sentances...to run consecutively....
I agree with you about George...actually agree with you on most of your post .

CUBBEEGIRL -

 Hi there, thanks for the welcome! And thanks for the support. I always seem to risk saying to much. But, after reading so much here, it's nice to see you guys bounce stuff off one another and share LIKE ADULTS - its refreshing.

Plus, you are ladies while doing it.  (i haven't seen what appears to be any gentlemen here even though I know there are!)  at least the posts Ive been reading  seem to have very feminine energy, if that makes sense.

Also, sorry to everyone about the double post earlier, my connection froze, then when I refreshed I didnt see my post, so I rewrote it and then back a whole page was the post the first time around.

I can't wait for tomorrow, only  6 hours away... I wonder if Casey is sleeping.. I love the bags under her eyes.. I wished they didnt give those friggen ridiculous clothes. We know shes in jail, why not the jail scrubs... the jury knows what they wear behind bars. A lame button up frilly top is just ridiculous - the jurors have already seen what she wore as a civilian. STOOPID. Subliminally it doesn't work for me -

Tick tock Casey - Tick tock...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 31, 2011, 02:59:32 AM
[ quote author=klaasend link=topic=10085.msg1367639#msg1367639 date=1306816247]
Not sure if this has already been posted...

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28076152/detail.html

Body Language Expert On Cindy, Casey Anthony
Expert: 'She Is Probably Feeling Betrayed.'


POSTED: Monday, May 30, 2011
UPDATED: 9:40 pm EDT May 30, 2011

 ::snipping2::

What's behind these emotions? For an answer, Local 6 turned to body language expert Susan Constantine.

"She comes off the stand and there's not connection. She doesn't even look at the defense table," said Constantine.

As Constantine is shown video of Casey's reaction to her mother, she said Casey shows expressions of anger, sadness, grief and surprise. She said Casey's reaction to her mother's lack of eye contact was genuine.

"There are multiple types of emotions going through her right now," Constantine said. "She is probably feeling betrayed."

"They're on opposite ends of the world or they're not in agreement with one another," Constantine said. "When people avoid someone or avoid eye contact, there's a reason. Somehow maybe the relationship is breaking apart or emotionally they're at odds."

You might wonder what our expert thought about all the tears Casey shed when shown pictures of Caylee. Constantine said it's still a mystery whether those tears stemmed from genuine concern for her daughter, or for herself.
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And this is an expert?

I think many of our monkeys are just as adept if not morseso than this chick!!

::cartwheel:: ::bananadance:: ::cartwheel:: ::bananadance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 31, 2011, 03:14:50 AM

Am I dreaming or didn't Cindy purchase another one at JCPenny? Or Someone did with Cindy's card? Someone correct me if I am wrong...

I always assumed she did since she refused to give that receipt to LE and then Lee took it to bozo. They were in full cover up mode then because when asked about it later, she said "I told them it was missing" when she never did. Here is that one.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/ayqbt1.jpg)

Could be the bumper guard/pillow also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 31, 2011, 03:17:27 AM

Am I dreaming or didn't Cindy purchase another one at JCPenny? Or Someone did with Cindy's card? Someone correct me if I am wrong...

I always assumed she did since she refused to give that receipt to LE and then Lee took it to bozo. They were in full cover up mode then because when asked about it later, she said "I told them it was missing" when she never did. Here is that one.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/ayqbt1.jpg)

Could be the bumper guard/pillow also.

Actually, look how short those ruffles are sticking out of the top of the bag- I'm going with bumper guard/pillow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: TURBOTHINK on May 31, 2011, 03:21:57 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1208&start=400
she made some sense regarding holt! remember in a jailhouse video she said"she is close to holt"
maybe she got scared that after saying she was close to holt ! LE may look there! JMO

comment from Magpie:

Lee said in his civil deposition that he attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. Cindy said in her SAO depostion that Lee and Casey went to the Ninth Grade Center. She didn't mention the location, but I presume that both Lee and Casey attended the Ninth Grade Center in Winter Park. The address is 528 Huntington Ave. I googled and found out that there is a Holt Ave, and also a Holt Dr., close to the Ninth Grade Center. The distance is less than half a mile. The address of Rollins college is 1000 Holt Ave. It is less than a mile from the Ninth Grade Center. Rollins College is located in the historic, scenic area of Winter Park.

I heard that there are hidden pathways in the scenic area of Winter Park, and I read that there are streets lined with Camphor and Oak trees. According to Dr. Hall's October 2008 report, Cinnamon Camphor leaves and Oak twigs and leaves were in the plastic housing windshield of Casey's car. A Cinnamon Camphor leaf was under the right chassis behind the right front tire, and there were Cinnamon Camphor leaves in the spare tire well. I wonder if Casey disposed of Caylee's body in Winter Park, somewhere close to Holt Ave., at a specific place she had mentioned to Cindy that Lee would recognize as a place familiar to Casey and him. I wonder if Lee found Caylee's body and moved her to the wooded area off Suburban Dr. at some point.

On July 21, 2008, LE requested and obtained a court order authorizing the installation and use of mobile tracking device upon one or more vehicle operated by Casey, Cindy, George, Lee, and Tony Lazzaro. The order was good for 60 days. On October 7, 2008, a court order to extend the original order for another 60 days was obtained. Those were the only orders I recall seeing in the discovery documents, so I presume any mobile devices that had been installed were disabled between September 20 and October 7, 2008. I wonder if and when LE installed mobile tracking devices upon Cindy's, George's, and Lee's vehicles and if it was recorded that any of those vehicles were close to Holt Avenue in Winter Park during the time the devices were in use.

I somehow missed that they had gone to Winter Park's 9th grade center. My bigger question would be why? That school is not only in a different district but in a different county. We do have magnet schools that offer high school students different study programs (i.e. one school is law, one sciences) but that would explain one of the Anthony's qualifying into the program not both. Can you direct me to any link that discusses why they went to a school for one year that is so far out of their territory. TYIA


OMG - what a post - this is something I would have never put together.  Very interesting.
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Not only is this interesting but isn't that the area some guy thought he saw KC with her car trunk up coming out of the woods?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Kermit on May 31, 2011, 04:37:07 AM
Geraldo Rivera Talks About the Disturbing Details in Casey Anthony Trial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsAdTGh_AI&feature=player_embedded#at=20

Whoraldo claims the prosecution is doing an excellent job in the "slutification process of ICA".  Newsflash Whoraldo - ICA had no problems doing that on her own and the prosecution is just telling people about it.  I am sure when she is in general pop she will again be wearing her ankles for earrings just like the good old days. 

Just watch whoraldo.....he's not a straight shooter.  I never watch him...
Did this time....won't again...... ::MonkeyBike::

Also, the cherry-picked, very short clips shown of Baez during Baez's opening statement & of his questioning of George, were geared exclusively toward the sexual abuse agenda--hoping the viewer who wasn't as familar with this case as we are, would buy it---hook, line, and sinker.  He may as well be there in Orlando sitting at the Defense table too.

I'm perplexed as to what did Casey do with her daughter all day since she wasn't working and no one seems to know she wasn't working and dropping the daughter off with the nanny. Didn't anyone ever see her?

My second question is - could zanny be  zanax - a drug? Could she have been drugging her 2 1/2 year old for some time? Is there any evidence that would suggest that?

George is a former police officer - is there any concrete evidence as to why he wouldn't call and report the car when he smelled
decomposition coming from the car that he and Cindy went to pick up at the impound lot? I'm confused why a cop no matter what is going on, knowing that type of smell, wouldn't call & have the police make a report. For all he knows at that point that particular car could have been involved something - stolen etc.  He testified he prayed and he hoped it wasn't his daughter or grand-daughter. I don't understand this area of testimony. He testified he drove the car home with windows down and parked it inside the garage?  He is either showing a lack of care about his police training & family or he is complicit in something???? Why would he think that his daughter and/or granddaughter might be dead in that car when he testified that after he got home, Cindy called Casey and he went to work? 

I apologize for my redundant questions - I know it can be irritating to those who have followed & have knowledge of the case from the beginning. I haven't followed the case until the trial began.



1.  Nobody knows what Casey did with Caylee but Casey wasn't working so it's not like she had to keep Caylee someplace all day.  My bet is Casey kept Caylee in the car alot.  Maybe even in the trunk if she was drugged up enough to sleep.

2.  Yes, Zanny could be a name Casey used for Zanax.  We had thought about that. 

3.  My take on George and the smell in the car at the impound lot.  George smelled a dead human/animal but there wasn't anything dead in the car.  I think he was HOPING the smell didn't come from either Casey or Caylee.  I believe Cindy had been having phone/text contact with Casey almost continuously and Casey was lying about her and Caylee.  Cindy and George therefore thought that both Casey and Caylee were ok and no reason to believe the smell could have come from their granddaughter.

Thank you for that explanation.   Heart-wrenching to watch & trying to figure out what took place from the trial.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: Monkey King on May 31, 2011, 05:26:41 AM
I think everyone should read these reports.

It will dispel any rumours (like there being pizza in the trunk)

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19833575/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 31, 2011, 06:04:48 AM
Gm ::MonkeyGavel::

Where was the hp desktop located in the A's house?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 31, 2011, 06:39:12 AM
4:00 p.m.  Mr. Thompson, owner of Tech Bay computer store believes he saw Casey and Caylee at the Casselberry Wal-Mart Super Center (12.8 miles from the Anthony home). [Note: There is a Wal-Mart Super Center (3.5 miles from the Anthony home), which is where Cindy typically shopped. It is store ##3782 located at 5991 New Goldenrod RD]

Mr. Thompson stated Caylee was walking about 10’ behind Casey and Caylee struggled with trying to push open a heavy door to exit the store.  In an interview with a WESH Reporter, Mr. Thompson clarified his written statement filed with the Maitland Police Dept. (MPD) about seeing Casey and Caylee at lunchtime. He is a small business owner whose lunch time schedule varies, but on this date it was approx. 4:00 p.m.

4:10:41 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
4:11:25 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
4:11:49 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
4:13:04 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
4:13:29 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to Cindy’s cell ph
4:14:48 p.m. – Casey’s cell ph call to George’s work ph
Note:  The “flurry of calls” made during the period between 3:04 p.m. and 4:14 p.m. were less than 60 seconds in duration.

Casey appears to be leaving the Anthony home @ 4:18 p.m. en route to Tony L.’s apt.



jmo...If this is all correct almost looks like casey was setting up an alibi and at the A's house?
I'm trying to pin point when Caylee died.


http://humbleopinionforum.net/2011/01/20/casey-anthony-timeline-16-17-june-2008/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: pharlap on May 31, 2011, 07:06:00 AM
Ok, found out...hp is in Lee's bedroom...
 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony-MURDER TRIAL-DAY 5 - 5/28 - 5/30/2011
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 31, 2011, 07:06:31 AM

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/MODLOCK1.gif)


Day 6:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10120.0