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Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 01, 2007, 09:54:21 PM
Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee

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Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 01, 2007, 11:29:11 PM
I stilll have pages to read on the last thread...but I'm checking in.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 01, 2007, 11:30:26 PM
I wanted to be first.I keep a clean litter box and I only watch cat fights,unless I see firearms.HeHe.cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: sb on April 01, 2007, 11:30:42 PM
Jumping over the threadchange wall...

Is it true that there is supposed to be a hearing tomorrow on the Calif. case?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 01, 2007, 11:31:36 PM
Thinking of how fast they whisked him off to the NL...makes me wonder how popular he really is on Aruba. I know there are those that beleive him, but I am sure some Arubans look over their shoulder when he is around. If they don't, then they deserve what ever they get from him.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 01, 2007, 11:34:35 PM
Quote from: "sb"
Jumping over the threadchange wall...

Is it true that there is supposed to be a hearing tomorrow on the Calif. case?

Yes, there is something going on tomorrow in the Dr. Phil case.  Let me look.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 01, 2007, 11:36:21 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "sb"
Jumping over the threadchange wall...

Is it true that there is supposed to be a hearing tomorrow on the Calif. case?

Yes, there is something going on tomorrow in the Dr. Phil case.  Let me look.


Sorry, it's May 2nd the Dr. Phil case.  Tomorrow is this in the Kalpoe wrongful death case:

04/02/2007 at 08:35 am in department 33 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion Hearing (Application for Admission ofJohn Quinlan Kelly as CounselPro Hac Vice;(2) William J. Cremer & Edmund J.Siegert as Counsel Pro Hac Vice)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 01, 2007, 11:37:42 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
I wanted to be first.I keep a clean litter box and I only watch cat fights,unless I see firearms.HeHe.cat


Cat, I should have just let you be first...if your litter box is clean that means you eat there....never mind... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 01, 2007, 11:39:22 PM
Posted by LoRain just now at BFN (she put it with the Shango reference material):

I watched "Cold Case" tonight...they talked of Rolling the Dice and a drug called "X"...the rolling of the dice....a girl rolls the dice and whatever number she rolls, she has to have relations with this number of guys....the drug "X" was very very potent and only took one drop per drink....this just made me think of Natalee....has this angle with the dice been considered?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 01, 2007, 11:41:48 PM
I didn't watch Cold Case, but wish I did, now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 01, 2007, 11:44:46 PM
Klaas, is it over in your timezone, by now?  It was on at 10pm ET here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 01, 2007, 11:48:49 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Klaas, is it over in your timezone, by now?  It was on at 10pm ET here.

Any idea what channel it's on?  I never watch it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 01, 2007, 11:48:51 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by LoRain just now at BFN (she put it with the Shango reference material):

I watched "Cold Case" tonight...they talked of Rolling the Dice and a drug called "X"...the rolling of the dice....a girl rolls the dice and whatever number she rolls, she has to have relations with this number of guys....the drug "X" was very very potent and only took one drop per drink....this just made me think of Natalee....has this angle with the dice been considered?



Just gave me a flashback to Joran, Nat , and Satish standing
at the bar.

Joran knew the color of his yard cup. It was a Whiskey / Coke

He handed it to Natalee to wash down her shot.

When he was drinking jello shots of her belly.... I don't

buy the fact he had his cup in his hand the whole time...

He was kind a busy guy, so I hear.

Satis was right there.

All it takes is 1 drop.

1-3 Seconds.



*BOOM* :shock:

She slammed some J&C down as a chaser behind those shots!

>>> That is the opportune moment that I see the drink
        could have been spiked.

...as they walk out, Joran pitches the cup contents and hands it off
to an American Tourist.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 01, 2007, 11:49:20 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by LoRain just now at BFN (she put it with the Shango reference material):

I watched "Cold Case" tonight...they talked of Rolling the Dice and a drug called "X"...the rolling of the dice....a girl rolls the dice and whatever number she rolls, she has to have relations with this number of guys....the drug "X" was very very potent and only took one drop per drink....this just made me think of Natalee....has this angle with the dice been considered?
Very interesting angle.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 01, 2007, 11:52:12 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by LoRain just now at BFN (she put it with the Shango reference material):

I watched "Cold Case" tonight...they talked of Rolling the Dice and a drug called "X"...the rolling of the dice....a girl rolls the dice and whatever number she rolls, she has to have relations with this number of guys....the drug "X" was very very potent and only took one drop per drink....this just made me think of Natalee....has this angle with the dice been considered?



Just gave me a flashback to Joran, Nat , and Satish standing
at the bar.

Joran knew the color of his yard cup. It was a Whiskey / Coke

He handed it to Natalee to wash down her shot.

When he was drinking jello shots of her belly.... I don't

buy the fact he had his cup in his hand the whole time...

He was kind a busy guy, so I hear.

Satis was right there.

All it takes is 1 drop.

1-3 Seconds.



*BOOM* :shock:

She slammed some J&C down as a chaser behind those shots!

>>> That is the opportune moment that I see the drink
        could have been spiked.

...as they walk out, Joran pitches the cup contents and hands it off
to an American Tourist.
I do beleive that she was drugged before she ever left that bar, and it was starting to kick-in when they led her outta there.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 01, 2007, 11:54:54 PM
yep, elaine.

I do too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 01, 2007, 11:55:28 PM
me too


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 02, 2007, 12:03:02 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by LoRain just now at BFN (she put it with the Shango reference material):

I watched "Cold Case" tonight...they talked of Rolling the Dice and a drug called "X"...the rolling of the dice....a girl rolls the dice and whatever number she rolls, she has to have relations with this number of guys....the drug "X" was very very potent and only took one drop per drink....this just made me think of Natalee....has this angle with the dice been considered?
Now thats an interesting look at it ....Didn't think of that one.  Hi everyone, I have been sick, so trying to stay away from the puter.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 02, 2007, 12:05:24 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by LoRain just now at BFN (she put it with the Shango reference material):

I watched "Cold Case" tonight...they talked of Rolling the Dice and a drug called "X"...the rolling of the dice....a girl rolls the dice and whatever number she rolls, she has to have relations with this number of guys....the drug "X" was very very potent and only took one drop per drink....this just made me think of Natalee....has this angle with the dice been considered?
Now thats an interesting look at it ....Didn't think of that one.  Hi everyone, I have been sick, so trying to stay away from the puter.
Hi Hotshot, hope you feel better soon!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 02, 2007, 12:05:32 AM
Me, too.

Did we ever hear the jello shots confirmed by any of the MB kids or is it still only stated by J2K.  Was it maybe in one of the FBI 302's or statement of someone other than the suspects?

Yes, I think she was drugged at the bar, just not sure by whom.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: igsigs on April 02, 2007, 12:07:05 AM
Moral of the story here is if you team up with the Sloots you are going to get burned.

FOB are the Kalpoes of the internet.

*That lie was for you!*  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 02, 2007, 12:08:04 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Klaas, is it over in your timezone, by now?  It was on at 10pm ET here.

Any idea what channel it's on?  I never watch it.


CBS 2 here...not sure in your area...sorry...was away for a bit.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on April 02, 2007, 12:11:31 AM
Get well soon Hotshot.  Is it catching? Should we germ proof our computers?
I just did a virus scan this morning.
Must let Robots know if that is the case  :wink:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on April 02, 2007, 12:14:42 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Klaas, is it over in your timezone, by now?  It was on at 10pm ET here.

Any idea what channel it's on?  I never watch it.


CBS 2 here...not sure in your area...sorry...was away for a bit.

Thanks for the heads up 2NJ - I can watch it in about 6 months time.  One of my favourite shows.  I watched the one they based on Natalee's story and was pleased when it turned out to be the boy's mother as I have always believed Anita played a big part in it all including the disposal.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 12:19:52 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Klaas, is it over in your timezone, by now?  It was on at 10pm ET here.

Any idea what channel it's on?  I never watch it.


CBS 2 here...not sure in your area...sorry...was away for a bit.

I'll try to catch it


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 02, 2007, 12:29:28 AM
Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Klaas, is it over in your timezone, by now?  It was on at 10pm ET here.

Any idea what channel it's on?  I never watch it.


CBS 2 here...not sure in your area...sorry...was away for a bit.

Thanks for the heads up 2NJ - I can watch it in about 6 months time.  One of my favourite shows.  I watched the one they based on Natalee's story and was pleased when it turned out to be the boy's mother as I have always believed Anita played a big part in it all including the disposal.


Tib, I do like the show and watch it as often as I can....tonight I just happened to watch something else.  Lately, however, they have had reruns, and each night I'm not sure what I'll be watching.  If you see it in 6 months...then, you know what I'm talking about... :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 02, 2007, 12:31:02 AM
Signing out...goodnight, all.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 12:33:15 AM
Nite 2NJ


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 02, 2007, 12:36:19 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Moral of the story here is if you team up with the Sloots you are going to get burned.

FOB are the Kalpoes of the internet.

*That lie was for you!*  :wink:



Hi, Igs,
I think you are correct and the same could be said of Julia for remember she is the one who tipped off the JQK crew that the vd Sloots were NYC bound and she also stabbed Beth in the back several times with her wild tales.

But I still want to see the rest of the mysterious "documents"!  The good stuff.   :D Maybe it, too, shall surface yet.

Heading for the monkey bunkey!  Nite all!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on April 02, 2007, 12:45:16 AM
Going to head out again for a while.  BBL with more gum trees  :lol:  :lol:
Hope you catch that Cold Case and can tell us your ideas, Klaas.
Be good, monkeys


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:05:02 AM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:05:38 AM
see ya, tibro!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: spooky112483 on April 02, 2007, 02:15:42 AM
CBB...I just found my avatar! Thank you dear I love it!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: spooky112483 on April 02, 2007, 02:21:42 AM
While I am posting I just wanted to tell any Monkeys that are "new" and have wondered why we sometimes talk about "cleaning the cage" or "sweeping and mopping"...well what you have been witnessing from Glenda and Diva et al is were it came from. All those degenerates used to be here at SM and before we went to a standard of 50 pages we would go into 100+ pages and wade thru all sorts of cow manure and then when we would open a new thread it was literally like cleaning up after a major disaster :lol: Oh those were some days, weren't they?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 02:47:34 AM
ohhhh ohhhhhhhhh

Spookyyyyyyyyy! :wink:


I like your new outfit.


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Tom Red & Klaas



Have you seen this Hillary Clinton pic?


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OH DA POSSIBILITIES. MIND BOGGLING.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 03:27:22 AM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 04:25:53 AM
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Boekmeter has a release date of April 17.

Bol April 21.

Bruna April 17.

Broese unknown.

Ako April 17.

Proxis April 17.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 06:52:23 AM
Geez carpe-do you know putting pics like the one above could cause a person to have a heart attack? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I'm really glad I haven't had my breakfast yet.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: justinsmama on April 02, 2007, 07:20:07 AM
Spooky! I was just wondering where you've been!

Have a good day, monkeys!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 02, 2007, 07:29:28 AM
Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
Get well soon Hotshot.  Is it catching? Should we germ proof our computers?
I just did a virus scan this morning.
Must let Robots know if that is the case  :wink:  :wink:
Tibrogargan and Elaine, Thanks so much.  I think it is catchy so you may want to break out the Lysol and stuff.  This is the worst I have ever had.  ever have your hair hurt?  Coughing and sneezing at the same time?  "among other things" Getting up to get food or use the bathroom is horrible.  Next year I am getting that flu shot if it kills me.  Tib, how is everything out your way with the tsunomi (sp)?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Leslie on April 02, 2007, 08:32:05 AM
Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: nonesuche on April 02, 2007, 08:43:17 AM
oh dear, say it ain't so  :shock: possible bribery/kickbacks in the MEP party leadership  :lol:

International investigation in Namdar-case  

Rudy Lampe

WILLEMSTAD/ORANJESTAD – The Aruban Parliament-member Rudy Lampe (RED) presses for an international investigation in the Namdar-case.  The investigation must include Aruba and the Neth.Antilles and also the Netherlands and the United States.  

The Namdar-case involves both Aruba and Curacao. It appears from leaked out e-mails that the American diamond dealer and businessman Effy Namdar has offered the Aruban government party MEP one million florins in bribery.  It appears from correspondence that refers to the Tourist Minister of Curacao in May 2006, that also the Curacao commissioner Ivan Strick (Finance and Tourism, FOL) and possibly also the former Tourism-commissioner Gerrit Schotte (MPK then, MAN now, have been in contact with Namdar.  

In the meantime, also the following politicians are involved in the matter: Governor Fredis Refunjol, former MEP-minister, Tourism-minister Edison Briesen (MEP), former minister Glenbert Croes (OLA), who most likely plays a part with regard to Curacao.

Lampe wants an international investigation, considering all these names from several countries involved in the matter.  “These are serious accusations.  It’s about bribery and attempts to bribery.  There are UN-treaties against bribery.  It is therefore best that all the countries in question join forces and have this case thoroughly investigated”, said Lampe who was an active priest before.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: nonesuche on April 02, 2007, 08:47:34 AM
More on the protesting regarding the chollers and the case with saladin:

Protest against drug addiction problem  

ORANJESTAD – About 500 to 600 protesters showed their support to Michael Saladin, by protesting against the increased problems with drug addiction.  The protest march was peaceful; the banners spoke or themselves; the general sentiment is that hardworking people should not suffer under the addiction of others.  

The march started around 17:00 in the Wilhelminastraat to the location where La Linda was at the Caya Betico Croes.  Michael Saladin is still under medical observation.  His lawyer Ruiz said that the matter has struck Saladin so bad that he is bad off physically and mentally.

“Usually, he is a cheerful man, but now he is down and even depressed.”  Ruiz indicated that the big turnout at the protest march and all the expressions of support, are a big support for him and his family.

Tomorrow is the eighth day of custody.  Ruiz expects another session with the examining judge, who will decide whether to order further detention or not.  Ruiz hopes that based on his health condition and the fact that he has small children, the judge will decide on not ordering further detention.  “Besides, being a businessman and owning two businesses that are open 24 hours a day with 11 employees, Saladin has a big responsibility.”  Ruiz says that there is no uncertainty about the fact that Saladin has aimed his weapon on the choller that threatened him.   That’s not the case.  The weapon was in his hand but he didn’t aim it at the choller.  

The American consulate general in Curacao asked the police and the public prosecutor for information on Michael Saladin’s situation.  This is standard procedure for the consulate, because Saladin is American citizen.  Vice-consul Bill Furnish indicated that the consulate always make inquiries when something happens to an American citizen abroad.  They do that so they can answer possible questions of family in the US.  Due to the American privacy-act, he is not allowed to discuss details with the media.   He did say though that he is very pleased with the cooperation of the police and public prosecutor here in Aruba.  He has not yet contacted Saladin directly.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 02, 2007, 08:52:45 AM
I am back for a moment,meds are working,clean litter,I have never seen or heard a single MB kid say Natalee did Belly shots.I do think she was drugged before she left the bar and joran is guilty as sin. cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: msmarple on April 02, 2007, 08:55:11 AM
http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/4/2/

3 Tourists have problems with bad service at the hospital

Quote
TRES TURISTA INDIGNA CU MAL SERVICIO NA HO
ORANJESTAD (AAN):

Ningun di tres lo no bin Aruba mas! Esey ta loke tres turista hospedando na Renaissance Resort a declara den un entrevista cu DIARIO. Nan tabata furioso pa e trato baho y increible cu nan a haya Diadomingo merdia na Servicio di Emergencia na Hospital di Aruba.

E turistanan aki mes a caba di yega Aruba. Ta trata di un señora di como 62 aña di edad, hunto cu su dos yiu muher.

Prome cu nan a yega e isla aki, e mama a come algo na e Aeropuerto di origen, y esaki no a bay bon na su curpa. El a yega Aruba y cuminza sinti su curpa malo. El a pasa henter anochi ta vomita y haya diarea doloroso, cu casi e no por a ni hala rosea.

Diadomingo mainta e dolornan a empeora. E mama casi no por ni cana. Dolornan fuerte y acute tabata dal su barica y abdomen. Aki su dos yiu muher a dicidi cu nan ta bay hibe pa Servicio di Emergencia di Hospital di Aruba. Nan a paga un Taxi pa asina hiba nan Hospital. Nan a yega pa 12:52 p.m.

Ora cu nan a yega na loket, e turistanan a splica cu nan mama ta casi muri di dolor, y cu e mester worde mira urgente. Pero e enfermera a bisa nan, cu como cu nan ta turista, nan tin di pasa na Cashier prome y mesora a paga e suma di $85 pa cubri e costo, y asina warda e machine traha un ponsplaat, y demas detaye. Dolor tabata sigui dal e mama.

E ora nan a cera conoci cu e sistema di “sinta y warda” bo turno. Dolor tabata sigui tras di otro, y e mama tabata keha y sclama so sinta den Wachtkamer, unda tabatin 3 otro hende sinta. Cada biaha e ta lanta y bay WC.

E yiunan a cuminza bira desespera y ta bay na loket pa pidi yudanza. Atrobe ta indica cu e señora tin di sinta y warda. “Cada biaha nan tabata bisa nos pa warda nos turno,” e yiu muher a indica na DIARIO.

Diripiente e turistanan a mira un otro muher yega, y el a bay pasa paden numa. E turistanan a core bay reclama, y e enfermera a bisa: E muher nobo ey tin un berdadero emergencia.

ARUBIANONAN CU A MIRA E TURISTA TA SUFRI

Aki e yiunan a core puntra, si acaso nan Mama muriendo di dolor den Wachtkamer no ta un emergencia? “Boso no ta mira cu e ta muriendo eyden”? Mientras tanto, Wachtkamer a sigui yena cu pacient y tur e Arubianonan eyden tabatin hopi compasion cu e turistanan. Uno hasta a sugeri e turistanan aki pa nan carga nan mama, y forzosamente drenta e sala di emergencia. Asina nan a haci tambe! Nan a gara nan mama, y e dos yiu muher a djis cana y drenta paden.

Aki nan a bin topa cu enfermeranan furioso, kendenan a bin mustra dede riba nan, y cu voz halto a demanda pa nan sali back. “Warda boso turno!” E turista a declara na DIARIO, cu casi nan a worde saca mescos cu un cacho!

Nan a bay sinta back, pero bao protesta. Aki nan tabata keda cu lagrima den wowo pa mira con nan mama tabata krimp, pone man na barica, y grita di dolor. Tur nan Vakantie dushi cu nan a bin pasa na Aruba, ta bayendo perdi aki y nan mama ta muriendo dilanti nan wowo.

Aki e demas Arubianonan a cuminza basha abao, y revela na e turistanan con pesimo e sistema di Salud Medico ta na Aruba. Con malo e ‘trato humano’ ta di mayoria personal medico pa cu cualkier pacient. Nan a kere sinembargo cu e trato malo aki ta aplicable solamente pa Arubiano of stranheronan residencia aki. Pero Diadomingo merdia nan a ripara cu hasta turistanan ta pasa den e situacion aki.

DIRIPIENTE E PORTA A HABRI

Despues di basta rato, porfin un enfermera a bin na e porta y yama nomber di e Mama. Aki luz a cuminza ilumina nan caminda back, y nan tabata contento cu porfin e señora ta bay worde yuda.
Pero e dama turista a djis worde hiba den un area di triage, y a djis check su temperatura, presion di sanger, y a hacie algun pregunta. Nan a djis dune un aspirina, y a mande back pa Wachtkamer pa spera riba Docter.

E turistanan no a compronde at all ta con e sistema aki ta funciona. Ata nan mama atrobe den sala di espera, cu dolor aun mas fuerte, ta sperando. “Aki nos a bolbe warda mas di 60 minuut,” e turista cu lagrima den wowo a declara na DIARIO. Su mama cu hopi dolor gastrico den curpa, tabata inconsolable. Un muher di riba 62 aña no tin forza pa wanta dolornan asina fuerte.

Diripiente nan a mira cu holoshi ta casi bati 4:00 p.m. Aki si nan a fada, y a dicidi cu nan lo no bay guli manda abao mas. Nan a bay na e loket pa bolbe pidi yudanza. E enfermera a djis usa e mesun disco raya: “Boso mester warda”.

NAN A DICIDI NA BANDONA HOSPITAL

“E tabata un espera cu nunca a yega,” e yiu muher a bisa. “Finalmente nos a dicidi cu nos no kier spera mas, y a dicidi cu nos ta bandona Hospital.” Aki nan a bisa cu nan no ta desea nada mas, y ta pidi pa haya e $85 back cu nan a deposita.

Aki a bin algo pret! E enfermera a bisa cu nan no por haya placa back. El a splica nan cu ya caba nan a gasta mas di e $85 ey cu nan a deposita, y cu realmente ainda nan tin un debe nobo di riba 5 Florin cu Hospital.

Esaki a pone e turistanan bira mas furioso, y nan fuse a bula. Nan a djis carga nan mama bay cune pafor, busca un Taxi, y bandona cu hopi disgusto e unico Hospital di Aruba. Nan no a paga e 5 Florin ey tampoco! “Te despues di 4’or di atardi nos a sali, y sin haya asistencia medico! Ki berguenza esaki ta! Esey ta boso sistema di Salud Publico? Esaki ta boso forma di trata e turistanan cu ta pasa vakantie aki?” Esey ta loke e otro ruman muher a declara na DIARIO.

Hunto cu e Taxista, a dicidi na bay na e Botica na Warda, y aki a papia cu e Boticario riba e asunto. Aki a dicidi di paga pa cierto remedi, cu kizas lo por alivia e dolornan fuerte, y tambe e sintoma di cual e dama ta sintiendo di dje. Despues di esey nan a djis bay back Renaissance Resort, pa pone e mama drumi.

Na final, e turista a declara na DIARIO cu loke nan tres a pasa na Hospital di Aruba, tabata “algo inhumano”. “Nos ta hende cu no tin caracter pa reclama, pero loke a socede a pone nos bira hopi rabia. Nan ta kere cu e enfermeronan trahando den e seccion ey na Hospital tin nada di ‘calidad humano’ den nan curazon.

“Si e enfermeronan Europeonan ey ta hende cu a studia medicina, nan a mire ta dobla su curpa di dolor, y a dune medicamento. Pakico ta laga hende djis tuma presion di sanger y despues lage warda atrobe? Di con mester warda mas di 3 ora na Aruba pa haya yudanza di emergencia?” “Aruba ta un isla asina bunita, pero loke a socede na Hospital a laga nos cu mal smaak den boca. Un isla asina mester tin un calidad humano mas grandi. Pero e Hospital di boso... ta algo hopi mahos.”

“Nunca nos a yega di topa un trato asina mahos. Ta parce cu boso profesionalnan den salud medico ta trata hende comosifuera ta un cacho nan ta! E calidad humano di algun hende cu ta traha den Salud mester ta di cielo pa tera, amplio, y specialmente trata e turistanan tambe bon.”

Na final, e turistanan a splica cu e impresion di Diadomingo merdia tabata asina mahos, cu nan a dicidi caba cu nan lo no bin Aruba back hamas. Diaranzon venidero nan lo subi avion, y bandona e isla. Nan lo avisa tur nan famia y amigonan, cu nan a descubri cu e peor Hospital cu ta existi na Mundo, a worde traha na Aruba. Pues evita di bay eynan!


Online Pap translation of the first section of this lengthy article:

Quote
three tourist indigna cu bad servicio at hospital oranjestad (aan):
none of three will not come aruba more! esey is thing three tourist hospedando at renaissance resort owing to declara in one interview cu daily paper. they was furious for her trato low y increible cu they owing to achieve diadomingo afternoon at servicio of emergencia at hospital of aruba.

the turistanan here self owing to end of arrive aruba. is deal of one madam of because; 62 year of edad, together cu his two child muher.
first cu they owing to arrive the island here, the mother owing to come algo at the aeropuerto of origen, y this not owing to bay good at his curpa. past owing to arrive aruba y cuminza feel his curpa bad. past owing to happen all night is vomita y achieve diarea painful, cu casi the not can owing to neither breathe.

diadomingo morning the dolornan owing to empeora. the mother casi not can neither march. dolornan strong y acute was strike his barica y abdomen. here his two child muher owing to dicidi cu they're bay hibe for servicio of emergencia of hospital of aruba. they owing to pay one taxi for so take away they hospital. they owing to arrive for 12:52 therefore.m.

hour cu they owing to arrive at loket, the turistanan owing to splica cu they mother is casi die of dolor, y cu the have to worde see urgente. but the enfermera owing to tell they, cu because; cu they're tourist, they have of happen at cashier first y at once owing to pay the suma of $85 for cubri the costo, y so keep the machine work one ponsplaat, y other detaye. dolor was follow strike the mother.

the hour they owing to close conoci cu the sistema of “sinta y warda” do you file. dolor was follow behind another, y the mother was complain y sclama only sit in wachtkamer, where had 3 another person sit. cada trip the is arise y bay wc.

the yiunan owing to cuminza become desespera y is bay at loket for ask yudanza. again is indica cu the madam have of sit y keep. “cada trip they was tell we for keep we file,” the child muher owing to indica at daily paper.

diripiente the turistanan owing to see one another muher arrive, y past owing to bay happen inside numa. the turistanan owing to core bay reclama, y the enfermera owing to bisa: the muher new ey have one berdadero emergencia.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 02, 2007, 08:55:50 AM
This is standard procedure for the consulate, because Saladin is American citizen. Vice-consul Bill Furnish indicated that the consulate always make inquiries when something happens to an American citizen abroad.
Well thats interesting.  Someone is getting involved here.  Why did they not do this to Natalee being an American citizen.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: San on April 02, 2007, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: "Cat"
I am back for a moment,meds are working,clean litter,I have never seen or heard a single MB kid say Natalee did Belly shots.I do think she was drugged before she left the bar and joran is guilty as sin. cat

The first time I heard anything about Natalee doing belly shots was from David Kock the Kalpoes attorney.  Until I hear it from the one of the MB kids that is just another lie by J2K to portray Natalee in a bad way.  Just like when Natalee screamed out the car window something about Aruba was another J2K lie.  If she was screaming out any window it was a call for help.  All these lies were thought up by Paulus sitting in a room with the three murderers.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:14:30 AM
Charlie Da Rat kinda reminds

me of "PAT" on the 80's SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE.

Pat looked sort of like a guy, but had boobs. ROFL

Nobody was ever totally sure WHAT IT WAS...

They'd just keep trying to think of new questions
to ask to find out. :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:17:32 AM
Ehhhhhhh ehhhhhh ehhhhhhhhh eeehehhhhhhhhhhh


(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/sweeney_pat.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:29:33 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Charlie Da Rat kinda reminds

me of "PAT" on the 80's SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE.

Pat looked sort of like a guy, but had boobs. ROFL

Nobody was ever totally sure WHAT IT WAS...

They'd just keep trying to think of new questions
to ask to find out. :)


ROFL

"PAT" :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:33:00 AM
isnt that SPECIAL !!
 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:36:28 AM
LOL

hey Robots, seriously.


look at Pat


and then Rat


>>

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/2d94rqg.jpg)


I tish u not. They're sisters!!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
LOL

hey Robots, seriously.


look at Pat


and then Rat


>>

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/2d94rqg.jpg)


I tish u not. They're sisters!!! :lol:


i agree.. SISTERS  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Peaches on April 02, 2007, 12:16:07 PM
I hadn't thought about "Pat" in ages.  Now I remember why.

San, you are right on the money.  "Lies My Father Told Me", coming soon to a bookstore near you.   Lying POS.
Morning!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 12:40:48 PM
Yesterday a screen shot of Joran's computer files was posted by Victor at FOB then removed after leaving it up about 9 minutes.  I was able to save it as were many other people.  What it looks like is that Joran willingly shared files with someone which implies his "notes" were not stolen at all.  Looking at the screen shot in the bottom right hand corner it shows music files/albums.  The name of the music album showing is Reggae Bangara.  Reggae Bangara has 2 albums, the first song on album 1 is called Murder She Wrote.  I put together this:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/videos/th_JoranReggae.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/videos/?action=view&current=JoranReggae.flv)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 12:47:38 PM
joran is a LOSER


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 12:48:31 PM
HIS  ARROGANCE WILL BE HIS DOWNFALL. -SIMIAN


Nice Klaas


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 02, 2007, 12:48:46 PM
Just poking my head in....................

That's interesting. I have wondered if it was possible that Joran willingly leaked excerpts from the book as a "test balloon" to see how much scrutiny it would come under and if there were places he could cross himself up before he was officially released from suspect status.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 02, 2007, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Just poking my head in....................

That's interesting. I have wondered if it was possible that Joran willingly leaked excerpts from the book as a "test balloon" to see how much scrutiny it would come under and if there were places he could cross himself up before he was officially released from suspect status.


I would have thought that JR would have been a willing and convenient avenue by which to do that, if indeed that's what Joran has done. Is there a connection between JR and SandraK?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Just poking my head in....................

That's interesting. I have wondered if it was possible that Joran willingly leaked excerpts from the book as a "test balloon" to see how much scrutiny it would come under and if there were places he could cross himself up before he was officially released from suspect status.

It sounds like all this happened approximately a year ago.  Why we are seeing the "notes" now is anyones guess.  His book will be published in Dutch not English.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 12:52:17 PM
He's a double naught loser

who couldn't go wrong with a nice kick to his throat.

It would only raise his IQ by a few dozen points!

The dude is an effin cornflake. (w/out the milk.)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 12:53:08 PM
joran rapes

only losers rape

therefore, he is a loser


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 02, 2007, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Just poking my head in....................

That's interesting. I have wondered if it was possible that Joran willingly leaked excerpts from the book as a "test balloon" to see how much scrutiny it would come under and if there were places he could cross himself up before he was officially released from suspect status.

It sounds like all this happened approximately a year ago.  Why we are seeing the "notes" now is anyones guess.  His book will be published in Dutch not English.


Ohhhhhhhh. Never mind.  :lol:

Klaas, you are great at keeping me straight! Thank You..............it's a full time job, I know!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Peaches on April 02, 2007, 12:54:48 PM
Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.

(Should've listened to Dr. Phil).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 12:55:42 PM
Quote from: "robots"
joran rapes

only losers rape

therefore, he is a loser

I think it's common practice in Aruba.  The young men of the island think it's normal to take advantage of young female tourists on their last night.  It's the NORM.  Something bad happened this time, they had to cover it up.  There's no remorse because it's a common activity.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Peaches on April 02, 2007, 12:57:47 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "robots"
joran rapes

only losers rape

therefore, he is a loser

I think it's common practice in Aruba.  The young men of the island think it's normal to take advantage of young female tourists on their last night.  It's the NORM.  Something bad happened this time, they had to cover it up.  There's no remorse because it's a common activity.


EXACTLY!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 01:00:58 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "robots"
joran rapes

only losers rape

therefore, he is a loser

I think it's common practice in Aruba.  The young men of the island think it's normal to take advantage of young female tourists on their last night.  It's the NORM.  Something bad happened this time, they had to cover it up.  There's no remorse because it's a common activity.


JACKPOT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 02, 2007, 01:03:46 PM
I agree.ditto.CAT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:06:02 PM
So no matter what actually happened, Joran would tell his father it was an accident.  

Paulus:  "I'll do anything to protect my son"


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 01:06:18 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Yesterday a screen shot of Joran's computer files was posted by Victor at FOB then removed after leaving it up about 9 minutes.  I was able to save it as were many other people.  What it looks like is that Joran willingly shared files with someone which implies his "notes" were not stolen at all.  Looking at the screen shot in the bottom right hand corner it shows music files/albums.  The name of the music album showing is Reggae Bangara.  Reggae Bangara has 2 albums, the first song on album 1 is called Murder She Wrote.  I put together this:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/videos/th_JoranReggae.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/videos/?action=view&current=JoranReggae.flv)


Klaas I'm glad you saw that,it was posted in HE but I didn't know how to copy it.I tried but it didn't work..lol..I need to learn how to do screenshots at least.
FWIW what I wanted to tell you tho is what Sultan said about the other files.

Sultan wrote:
Needed to clear up one thing. The original diary was "Book 1.doc" and the files named "chapter*.*" had nothing to do with Natalee (they were were homework assignments).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:07:56 PM
GEL - Thanks, I wondered about that.

I got lucky when Victor posted it at FOB yesterday, he only had it up about 9 minutes before taking it down.  I did read that it was also posted in HE and have seen it posted on other sites.  I get around, lol  :wink:

Edited to add:  I wanted to wait and see what JR's reaction was to it before posting anything here.  Since he's had virtually no reaction to it I'm assuming it's not something he wanted to see posted.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:11:48 PM
GEL - I notice he had a BFN.doc.  Wonder if he has a SM.doc too, LOL  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:14:44 PM
I cannot believe on FOB... :?

That illiterate MF, continues to claim that tourism is growing!!!

WHAT A DOPE.

IT IS SO LAUGHABLE... and a complete lie.

Yet such is the way of the FRAUDULENT HACK...

Lying and deceit is ALL THEY KNOW.

They've apparently rolled up and smoked all of their cerebral cortex...

The only people printing that gunk are paid with a check from AHATA/ATA...

or their rubes from friggin' Cuba.

MF I hope you're reading this. You're a class A Black & Decker Garden Tool.

I hope you're aware of this.

P.S. ...and another thing,  your mother never loved you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:17:22 PM
Carpe - between MF and Charlierat they spend alot of time talking about how great the tourism numbers are, makes you wonder.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Peaches on April 02, 2007, 01:19:55 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Carpe - between MF and Charlierat they spend alot of time talking about how great the tourism numbers are, makes you wonder.


Makes you wonder who they are trying to convince.
 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Carpe - between MF and Charlierat they spend alot of time talking about how great the tourism numbers are, makes you wonder.


hey sweetheart,

yes they do, and isn't Charlie Rat in ALABAMA somewhere?

Bessemer or something? :?:

Did someone say Bessemer last week?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:22:48 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Carpe - between MF and Charlierat they spend alot of time talking about how great the tourism numbers are, makes you wonder.


Makes you wonder who they are trying to convince.
 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

Bottom line it doesn't matter what tourism numbers are reported.  We've read several reports from government officials saying tourism numbers are down and the Natalee Holloway case has had a negative effect on the economy in Aruba.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 01:23:10 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL - Thanks, I wondered about that.

I got lucky when Victor posted it at FOB yesterday, he only had it up about 9 minutes before taking it down.  I did read that it was also posted in HE and have seen it posted on other sites.  I get around, lol  :wink:

Edited to add:  I wanted to wait and see what JR's reaction was to it before posting anything here.  Since he's had virtually no reaction to it I'm assuming it's not something he wanted to see posted.



I see that you do get around  :lol:
There seems to be strange goings on over at FOB and very quiet:shock: ...I'm still trying to figure out what purpose that would lead them to leave up what SandraK posted,then delete after they left it up just long enough for the whole www see, then proclaim it was done for the authorities to see??It's not making any sense,but I feel it was surely done for a reason.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:24:11 PM
Very Baghdad Bob. :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:24:22 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Carpe - between MF and Charlierat they spend alot of time talking about how great the tourism numbers are, makes you wonder.


hey sweetheart,

yes they do, and isn't Charlie Rat in ALABAMA somewhere?

Bessemer or something? :?:

Did someone say Bessemer last week?


Yes Charlierat claims to be an attorney in Alabama that was born in Aruba.  He recently returned to Aruba for the first time after over 20 years.  According to Charlierat himself he couldn't afford to go before.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:25:50 PM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL - Thanks, I wondered about that.

I got lucky when Victor posted it at FOB yesterday, he only had it up about 9 minutes before taking it down.  I did read that it was also posted in HE and have seen it posted on other sites.  I get around, lol  :wink:

Edited to add:  I wanted to wait and see what JR's reaction was to it before posting anything here.  Since he's had virtually no reaction to it I'm assuming it's not something he wanted to see posted.



I see that you do get around  :lol:
There seems to be strange goings on over at FOB and very quiet:shock: ...I'm still trying to figure out what purpose that would lead them to leave up what SandraK posted,then delete after they left it up just long enough for the whole www see, then proclaim it was done for the authorities to see??It's not making any sense,but I feel it was surely done for a reason.


I agree, it was left up for a reason.  Maybe they were hoping Red would do a front page post on it and give Joran's upcoming book release some free advertising, LOLOL  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:26:00 PM
I believe Joran is lying so bad now...

even the FOB people want him to be boiled

and forced to wear a condom.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
most attorneys i know.. go on vacation anywhere anytime they want
they do ok.. in the $$$$$$

is charlie a JACKASS or just a plain old fool ??

im not sure  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:27:06 PM
Klaas,

Is the new release date set in stone? What is the dealie?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Klaas,

Is the new release date set in stone? What is the dealie?

I doubt if anything is set in stone.  Last I heard the book release is now the end of April, beginning of May..not sure.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:28:17 PM
yes, robots...

biz is slow so Rat does weekends now

at Roscoe's Chicken & Waffle!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL - Thanks, I wondered about that.

I got lucky when Victor posted it at FOB yesterday, he only had it up about 9 minutes before taking it down.  I did read that it was also posted in HE and have seen it posted on other sites.  I get around, lol  :wink:

Edited to add:  I wanted to wait and see what JR's reaction was to it before posting anything here.  Since he's had virtually no reaction to it I'm assuming it's not something he wanted to see posted.



I see that you do get around  :lol:
There seems to be strange goings on over at FOB and very quiet:shock: ...I'm still trying to figure out what purpose that would lead them to leave up what SandraK posted,then delete after they left it up just long enough for the whole www see, then proclaim it was done for the authorities to see??It's not making any sense,but I feel it was surely done for a reason.


I agree, it was left up for a reason.  Maybe they were hoping Red would do a front page post on it and give Joran's upcoming book release some free advertising, LOLOL  :lol:


Someone made a joke the other night about it being a publicity stunt,but who knows?..those people are weird,so I wouldn't be surprised at anything anymore. :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 01:30:53 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
yes, robots...

biz is slow so Rat does weekends now

at Roscoe's Chicken & Waffle!



 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:31:14 PM
Yesterday:

Victor

Posted: Sun Apr 1st, 2007 06:48 pm   Quote     Reply  
 
-edit- (hope you have seen it)


Last edited on Sun Apr 1st, 2007 06:59 pm by Victor


JR-Dutch Attorney in USA-
Administrator
Posted: Sun Apr 1st, 2007 09:02 pm   Quote     Reply  
 
Victor wrote:
-edit- (hope you have seen it)


If we were supposed to see it, where is it?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:33:14 PM
Sorry, Victor left it up about 11 minutes, not 9 like I previously stated, LOL  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Carpe - between MF and Charlierat they spend alot of time talking about how great the tourism numbers are, makes you wonder.


hey sweetheart,

yes they do, and isn't Charlie Rat in ALABAMA somewhere?

Bessemer or something? :?:

Did someone say Bessemer last week?


Yes Charlierat claims to be an attorney in Alabama that was born in Aruba.  He recently returned to Aruba for the first time after over 20 years.  According to Charlierat himself he couldn't afford to go before.



Well, I saw a pic of his (Rat's) companion/date over the weekend...

I don't wanna go bein' disrespectful on anybody, ya know... but I am

pretty sure she was once on the high school wrestling team!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Carpe - between MF and Charlierat they spend alot of time talking about how great the tourism numbers are, makes you wonder.


hey sweetheart,

yes they do, and isn't Charlie Rat in ALABAMA somewhere?

Bessemer or something? :?:

Did someone say Bessemer last week?


Yes Charlierat claims to be an attorney in Alabama that was born in Aruba.  He recently returned to Aruba for the first time after over 20 years.  According to Charlierat himself he couldn't afford to go before.



Well, I saw a pic of his (Rat's) companion/date over the weekend...

I don't wanna go bein' disrespectful on anybody, ya know... but I am

pretty sure she was once on the high school wrestling team!!!


  ROFL
Afternoon all.. not here for long.. gots to leave for work soon.
FWIW Da RAt started a thread at RU I seen earlier about tourism.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Carpe - between MF and Charlierat they spend alot of time talking about how great the tourism numbers are, makes you wonder.


hey sweetheart,

yes they do, and isn't Charlie Rat in ALABAMA somewhere?

Bessemer or something? :?:

Did someone say Bessemer last week?


Yes Charlierat claims to be an attorney in Alabama that was born in Aruba.  He recently returned to Aruba for the first time after over 20 years.  According to Charlierat himself he couldn't afford to go before.



Well, I saw a pic of his (Rat's) companion/date over the weekend...

I don't wanna go bein' disrespectful on anybody, ya know... but I am

pretty sure she was once on the high school wrestling team!!!


  ROFL
Afternoon all.. not here for long.. gots to leave for work soon.
FWIW Da RAt started a thread at RU I seen earlier about tourism.  :roll:



Angie!!!! heya :P  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 01:40:46 PM
:smt023  Carpe.. been lurking here and there..lol
I see you are still on the roll.
 and  I DO agree with you in those links you posted of your photobucket,
There is DEFINATLEY a head/heads in that bag at the basin. I have looked at those over and over many times in the last few months.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 01:43:31 PM
Carpe.. I am posting one of the links you emailed me. This may help BT or others who cant tell whats what?  I hope  you don't mind. :oops:


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/binwhack1/dsssddssd.png


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:44:19 PM
We need to give those morons a

>> INSPIRATIONAL SPEECH!!!!



DOWN BY THE RIVERRRRRRRRR!


(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/1a.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
Not at all... thank you!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Not at all... thank you!!!


 No problem.. it helped me see what you meant better in that photo alone since you made the lines and wrote. Have seen others in your photobucket and  :shock: . I know myself and others discussed this a while back.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
:smt023  Carpe.. been lurking here and there..lol
I see you are still on the roll.
 and  I DO agree with you in those links you posted of your photobucket,
There is DEFINATLEY a head/heads in that bag at the basin. I have looked at those over and over many times in the last few months.



It's just a mess isn't it?

DEFINITELY 2 decap. HEADS with 1 BODY & HEAD still together...

...at least what I have been able to map so far. Grisly stuff.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
:smt023  Carpe.. been lurking here and there..lol
I see you are still on the roll.
 and  I DO agree with you in those links you posted of your photobucket,
There is DEFINATLEY a head/heads in that bag at the basin. I have looked at those over and over many times in the last few months.



It's just a mess isn't it?

DEFINITELY 2 decap. HEADS with 1 BODY & HEAD still together...

...at least what I have been able to map so far. Grisly stuff.


  Yes it is grisly..  :evil:  Long ago when Sleuth posted a shot of it.. myslef and a few others could see a head.  Some folks did not. But looking at all what you have done in the past.. there is NO DOUBT in my mind.. there ARE heads in that bag.  Sick bastards.  :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:51:03 PM
1 MORE THING

about the head with the NATALEE EYES

I distinctly see what appear to be two bullet wounds.

Center of forehead... one off to the right side of forehead.


In a few of my graphics I map it out with guides & lines too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 01:51:16 PM
Tonight on DANA PRETZER - 9pm ET

Monday April 2nd 9pm et

Guests

Donna Ann Smith Marshall, Author Of
TIME ON THE INSIDE, Behind The Walls In A Maximum Security Women's
Prison, From An Insiders View, by Donna Ann Smith-Marshall brings focus
and awareness with the specific aim of sharing the day to day
experiences of what occurs in a women's prison and the desperate need
for change and rehabilitation behind the walls and upon release.

Stephanie Good Author Of Exposed: The Harrowing Story of a Mother's
Undercover Work with the FBI to Save Children from Internet Sex
Predators (Hardcover)


Jamie Day- The Hollywood Movie Machine

www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 01:57:22 PM
Thanks Klaas...  sounds like an intersting show on Dana


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2007, 01:59:48 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
I am back for a moment,meds are working,clean litter,I have never seen or heard a single MB kid say Natalee did Belly shots.I do think she was drugged before she left the bar and joran is guilty as sin. cat


Cat, I suspect that jelly shots may factor into Natalee's behavior at Carlos N' Charlies' ... Dave never denied it in the following interview and .... it has never been disputed by any of the Mountain Brook students in the civil suit affidavits or FBI 302 statements.  Nevertheless, Natalee's behavior is not the issue ... she may have made some unwise choices that evening but ... that does not imply that she is a victim of her own actions as she, most definitely, was a victim at the hands of others.

Janet

Dave Holloway
On the Record w/ Greta
February 26, 2006

MACCALLUM: When you listen to some of the details, you know, some pretty graphic details about what was going on in that bar — he claimed that he was doing jelly shots, which I guess you sort of drink off somebody's stomach as they lay on the bar, all sorts of things about your daughter and what was going on there. What I'm curious about is did any of those connect with what her friends told you, who were also there in the bar with her that night?

HOLLOWAY: I think they, all the kids were there for, of course, their high school graduation, and they were all having a good time. And you know, I understand that some of that is true.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 01:59:55 PM
Did you hear that we found Joran's shoes?



>>>>>>
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/binwhack1/bunny_slippers.jpg)



HAPPY EASTER! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 02:00:09 PM
Have a great afternoon/evening all.
 Time to go brush my fangs again  :twisted:
So I can greet customers with a purdy smile..  :twisted:   :wink:

 Catch yah later tonight!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: LilPuma on April 02, 2007, 02:00:50 PM
Hi Monkeys!  Just checking in to see if Joran confessed or Deepak was seen going into the Chicago office of the FBI with his Chicago dream team or anything.   :wink:

I'm going to Tango with Shango while making/eating lunch, though my Shango printouts are limited.  That Roll the Dice and the Dice men should be revisited, but I didn't see Lala's Mom leading a discussion group yet.  Jeez, what happened to kids playing spin the bottle?  

 :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 02:00:55 PM
O/T - NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

Tainted Wheat Blamed In Food Deaths Labeled Food Grade

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/04/02/tainted-wheat-blamed-in-food-deaths-labeled-food-grade/

It is looking like the wheat gluten that was responsible for the deaths of the dogs and cats in the Menu Food Recall was labeled “food grade”. This means that the same wheat may  have been distributed for use in the human food chain.
(snipped)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 02:00:59 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Did you hear that we found Joran's shoes?



>>>>>>
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/binwhack1/bunny_slippers.jpg)



HAPPY EASTER! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


  ROFL!!    See yah later!

Howdy Janet!    Got to get going!!  Later all!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 02:02:18 PM
Yes, Janet...

That sounds about right.

She was on vacation, and maybe even partying her buns
off... but, never broke any laws! Nothing wrong with that.

Her mom says it best:

"She was only supposed to stay FOUR DAYS, she was supposed to come home."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 02:02:49 PM
Later ANG... be safe!!! 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2007, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Yes, Janet...

That sounds about right.

She was on vacation, and maybe even partying her buns
off... but, never broke any laws! Nothing wrong with that.

Her mom says it best:

"She was only supposed to stay FOUR DAYS, she was supposed to come home."


Exactly!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 02:09:09 PM
ut oh...Dog fight at FOB...ruf,ruf,ruf... :lol: Can't say Cat fight because this is suppose to be guys.

 
Bigfish wrote:
Controversial Topics, Venting, and Heated Discussions

Pretty "venomous" over there or "something" like that.

Some of them sound drunk most of the time especially yappy, blanched, and N2Perve.

TooTooT

Vis



 NEED2KNOW wrote:

My apologies to those who may be offended, especially JR, but I MUST respond.

I don't drink but I don't have to be drunk to know you are a total ass wipe.  As I told you the last time we traded words, it would be fun to see if you are this bold in person.  Name calling from your PC, oh, how brave of you.  My point in responding to you is not that I care at all what you may think of me, but to simply call you out for what you are - a cowardly little man, plain and simple.  TOOT TOOT that little fishy "Jr. Bullshit Detector"  Who detects your bullshit?  

Bigfish wrote:
More threats from you.  Same as at RU.  You should have been banned there.

NEED2KNOW wrote:
It is not a threat; reality is what it is.


Bigfish wrote:
I rest my case.  Thank you.

NEED2KNOW wrote:
You can rest "your case" all you want but others can see clearly who and what you are.  Have I said one thing to you or about you on any board?  Who exactly started this latest round?  Don't play the victim.  And again, I am NOT threatening you, simply an observation due to past experience with many like you.  Thank you

 
Bigfish wrote:
N2, you are a hypocrite and cannot re-write history.  You made threats at RU and did it again here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 02:09:56 PM
GEL -  :lol:  :lol:  I saw that


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 02:11:14 PM
I also see that Dilbart is congratulating Charlierat for being a topic of discussion here at SM.  Dilbart, be thankful you aren't the topic  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: LilPuma on April 02, 2007, 02:11:46 PM
Maybe this was posted over the weekend, I haven't read everything since Friday, but it's important enough to pass along.  
Press Release

Del Monte Pet Products Voluntarily Withdraws Specific Product Codes of Pet Treats and Wet Dog Food Products
SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--As a precautionary measure, Del Monte Pet Products is voluntarily recalling select product codes of its pet treat products sold under the Jerky Treats®, Gravy Train® Beef Sticks and Pounce Meaty Morsels® brands as well as select dog snack and wet dog food products sold under private label brands. A complete list of affected brands and products is below.

The Company took this voluntary recall action immediately after learning this morning from the FDA that wheat gluten supplied to Del Monte Pet Products from a specific manufacturing facility in China contained melamine. Melamine is a substance not approved for use in food. The FDA made this finding as part of its ongoing investigation into the recent pet food recall.

The adulteration occurred in a limited production quantity on select product codes of the brands below. This recall removes all Del Monte pet products with wheat gluten procured from this manufacturing facility from retail shelves.

No other Del Monte Pet Products treats, biscuits or wet dog food products are impacted by this recall, and no Del Monte dry cat food, dry dog food, wet cat food or pouched pet foods are subject to this voluntary recall. The affected products comprise less than one-tenth of one percent of Del Monte Pet Products' annual pet food and pet treat production.

Del Monte Pet Products has proactively engaged and fully cooperated with the FDA since the start of its investigation. The adulterated ingredients were used in limited production over the last three months for those items identified by specific product codes. Del Monte Pet Products has not used wheat gluten from this manufacturing facility in China in any other pet products except those described below.

Consumers should discontinue feeding the products with the Product Codes detailed below to their pets.

Del Monte Pet Products are 100% guaranteed and all returned product will be refunded.

Del Monte Pet Products customers can visit our website (www.delmonte.com) or contact our Consumer Hotline at (800) 949-3799 for further information about the recall and for instructions on obtaining a product refund.

Following is a list of the Products and Best Buy Dates that have been voluntarily recalled:

                                      Production Code/Best By Date
                                   -----------------------------------
BRANDED
-------------------------
Jerky Treats Beef Flavor  Code:    TP7C05  TP7B07 TP7B08 TP7B09 TP6B10
Dog Snacks                Best By: Aug 05  Aug 07 Aug 08 Aug 09 Aug 10
                                    08      08     08     08     08

                          Code:    TP7B15  TP7C05 TP7C06
                          Best By: Aug 15  Sep 02 Sep 03
                                    08      08     08

Gravy Train Beef Sticks   Code:    TP7B19  TP7B20 TP7B21
Dog Snacks                Best By: Aug 19  Aug 20 Aug 21
                                    08      08     08

Pounce Meaty Morsels      Code:    TP7C07  TP7C12
 Moist
Chicken Flavor Cat Treats Best By: Sep 04  Sep 09
                                    08      08


PRIVATE LABEL
-------------------------
Ol' Roy Beef Flavor Jerky Code:    TP7B06  TP7B07 TP7C05 TP7C06 TP7C07
 Strips
Dog Treats                Best By: Aug 06  Aug 07 Sep 02 Sep 03 Sep 04
                                    08      08     08     08     08

                          Code:    TP7C08
                          Best By: Sep 05
                                    08

Ol' Roy Beef Flavor Snack Code:    TP7B19  TP7B20 TP7B21 TP7C08 TP7C09
Sticks Dog Treats         Best By: Aug 19  Aug 20 Aug 21 Sep 05 Sep 06
                                    08      08     08     08     08

Ol' Roy Bark'n Bac'n Beef Code:    TP7C14
 &
Bacon Flavor Dog Treats   Best By: Sep 11
                                    08

Ol' Roy with Beef Hearty  Code:    BC6M21
 Cuts
in Gravy Dog Food         Best By: Dec 21
                                    09

Ol' Roy with Beef Hearty  Code:    BC7A19
 Strips
in Gravy Dog Food         Best By: Jan 19
                                    10

Ol' Roy Country Stew      Code:    BC6M15
 Hearty
Cuts in Gravy Dog Food    Best By: Dec 15
                                    09

Dollar General Beef       Code:    TP7C06
 Flavored
Jerky Strips Dog Treats   Best By: Sep 03
                                    08

Dollar General Beef       Code:    TP7B20  TP7B21
 Flavored
Beef Sticks Dog Treats    Best By: Aug 20  Aug 21
                                    08      08

Happy Tails Beef Flavor   Code:    TPY7B08 TP7B09
Jerky Strips              Best By: Aug 08  Aug 09
                                    08      08

Happy Tails Meaty Cuts    Code:    BC7A29
 with Beef
in Gravy Dog Food         Best By: Jan 29
                                    10

As part of the pet community, we value the health and well-being of pets, and we deeply regret this unfortunate situation. We will continue to take any and all actions necessary to ensure the quality and safety of our products.

Contact:Del Monte Foods
Mary Sestric, 412-222-8091
Or
Melissa Murphy-Brown, 412-222-8713

Source: Del Monte Pet Products


 http://tinyurl.com/ywhks2


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 02:11:58 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL -  :lol:  :lol:  I saw that



 :lol:  :lol: ..not that I care for N2K but it's about time someone lit into BF :D Too funny!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 02:13:13 PM
the PROVERBIAL CRACK PIPE is making its rounds again  



8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 02:13:18 PM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL -  :lol:  :lol:  I saw that



 :lol:  :lol: ..not that I care for N2K but it's about time someone lit into BF :D Too funny!!

As far as I know, I've never posted with either one and don't care to  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 02:15:07 PM
Doesn't anyone else find it interresting that Joran has downloaded on his computer a 1992 Reggae band who's first song on their first album is called Murder She Wrote?  Seemed rather sociopathic to me  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: AZSunny on April 02, 2007, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
O/T - NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

Tainted Wheat Blamed In Food Deaths Labeled Food Grade

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/04/02/tainted-wheat-blamed-in-food-deaths-labeled-food-grade/

It is looking like the wheat gluten that was responsible for the deaths of the dogs and cats in the Menu Food Recall was labeled “food grade”. This means that the same wheat may  have been distributed for use in the human food chain.
(snipped)


The possiblity of this occuring is vey real and very frightening.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL -  :lol:  :lol:  I saw that



 :lol:  :lol: ..not that I care for N2K but it's about time someone lit into BF :D Too funny!!

As far as I know, I've never posted with either one and don't care to  :wink:


I've had a couple of run-ins with BF-can't stand him-personally I'd like that train he keeps TooTing to run over him. :evil:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 02, 2007, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
LOL

hey Robots, seriously.


look at Pat


and then Rat


>>

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/2d94rqg.jpg)


I tish u not. They're sisters!!! :lol:
I poked my head in here to see if anything new..(Hi Monkeys!!!) and I saw this picture...ROFLMAO...Carpe, that is priceless....I will be laughing the rest of the day!  :smt044  :smt044  :smt044


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2007, 02:21:19 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Did you hear that we found Joran's shoes?



>>>>>>
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/binwhack1/bunny_slippers.jpg)



HAPPY EASTER! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


  ROFL!!    See yah later!

Howdy Janet!    Got to get going!!  Later all!


Hi Angie ... Good Bye Angie.   :)

Thanks for everything and ... have a great day!

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: JusticeforNatalee on April 02, 2007, 02:22:22 PM
Carpe,

LOL on the bunny slippers!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 02:24:43 PM
Elaine-did you see the blow up of Joran's book cover carpe posted earlier?That was the first thing I saw this morning when I looked in here.Not a pretty sight :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 02:25:00 PM
GEL - for you  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/trainbf.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 02, 2007, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Elaine-did you see the blow up of Joran's book cover carpe posted earlier?That was the first thing I saw this morning when I looked in here.Not a pretty sight :lol:
I don't think I have yet, LOL!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 02:27:38 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL - for you  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/trainbf.jpg)


ROFLMAO-that's perfect Klaas-thank you :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 02, 2007, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL - for you  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/trainbf.jpg)


ROFLMAO-that's perfect Klaas-thank you :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
LMAO! Hmmmm What grafitti would look good on THAT rain?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: JusticeforNatalee on April 02, 2007, 02:32:35 PM
"That illiterate MF, continues to claim that tourism is growing!!! "
 
I guess MF hasn't talked to Rudy Croes lately because even Rudy admitted that tourism has taken a hit.

 :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 02, 2007, 02:33:07 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL - for you  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/trainbf.jpg)


ROFLMAO-that's perfect Klaas-thank you :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
LMAO! Hmmmm What grafitti would look good on THAT rain?
on that train I meant, typed too quick and didnt hit the t hard enough! LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 02, 2007, 02:33:39 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Doesn't anyone else find it interresting that Joran has downloaded on his computer a 1992 Reggae band who's first song on their first album is called Murder She Wrote?  Seemed rather sociopathic to me  :wink:


Went to check out the song on YouTube, and from listening could only make out the lyrics that matched the title ad a few other words.  There seem to be several clips with young men lipsynching and in motion....seems to fit the punk gangstah pimp thing j2K & associates are into.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 02:33:56 PM
Quote from: "JusticeforNatalee"
"That illiterate MF, continues to claim that tourism is growing!!! "
 
I guess MF hasn't talked to Rudy Croes lately because even Rudy admitted that tourism has taken a hit.

 :wink:

It really doesn't matter.  Even if tourism was growing we still do not have JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.  The tourism numbers are not the issue.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 02:34:26 PM
The dog fight continues :D

Bigfish wrote:
N2, you are a hypocrite and cannot re-write history.  You made threats at RU and did it again here.

NEED2KNOW wrote:
You see it how you want to see it.  Was it not you who called me out here?  Why aren't you saying that?  How is my opinion of you and how you would react in person a threat?  I am not threatening you with anything, I am merely observing that you are a wimp.  That is not a threat, that is an observation.  I think you need to brush up on your reading comprehension and also respond to the entire issue being stated, not pick and choose what suits you.  The real point is I have not had one thing to say to you or about you but here we are again because YOU chose to post an insult about me and other former FOB members.  You don't want to talk about that, do you?


Bigfish wrote:
You're a sick pup.  Glad you found a home at HE.  Good place for you as you are a perfect fit.

Yes, they are threats and you are a

hypocrite.

Vis


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Doesn't anyone else find it interresting that Joran has downloaded on his computer a 1992 Reggae band who's first song on their first album is called Murder She Wrote?  Seemed rather sociopathic to me  :wink:


Went to check out the song on YouTube, and from listening could only make out the lyrics that matched the title ad a few other words.  There seem to be several clips with young men lipsynching and in motion....seems to fit the punk gangstah pimp thing j2K & associates are into.

I couldn't find the song on YouTube (I looked).  I did find a "preview" of the song which I used.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 02, 2007, 02:36:17 PM
Quote from: "JusticeforNatalee"
"That illiterate MF, continues to claim that tourism is growing!!! "
 
I guess MF hasn't talked to Rudy Croes lately because even Rudy admitted that tourism has taken a hit.

 :wink:
Me thinks they are counting the people who have hopped onto the island to hide from Chavez.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 02, 2007, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
The dog fight continues :D

Bigfish wrote:
N2, you are a hypocrite and cannot re-write history.  You made threats at RU and did it again here.

NEED2KNOW wrote:
You see it how you want to see it.  Was it not you who called me out here?  Why aren't you saying that?  How is my opinion of you and how you would react in person a threat?  I am not threatening you with anything, I am merely observing that you are a wimp.  That is not a threat, that is an observation.  I think you need to brush up on your reading comprehension and also respond to the entire issue being stated, not pick and choose what suits you.  The real point is I have not had one thing to say to you or about you but here we are again because YOU chose to post an insult about me and other former FOB members.  You don't want to talk about that, do you?


Bigfish wrote:
You're a sick pup.  Glad you found a home at HE.  Good place for you as you are a perfect fit.

Yes, they are threats and you are a

hypocrite.

Vis
I am so glad that these types are members There and Not here. Have they all inhaled nasty gas, they seem to be attacking one another right and left. LOL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 02, 2007, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Doesn't anyone else find it interresting that Joran has downloaded on his computer a 1992 Reggae band who's first song on their first album is called Murder She Wrote?  Seemed rather sociopathic to me  :wink:
Very interesting indeed. Everything this guy does is twisted!! Be back later monkeys.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2007, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "JusticeforNatalee"
"That illiterate MF, continues to claim that tourism is growing!!! "
 
I guess MF hasn't talked to Rudy Croes lately because even Rudy admitted that tourism has taken a hit.

 :wink:
Me thinks they are counting the people who have hopped onto the island to hide from Chavez.  :lol:


 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: JusticeforNatalee on April 02, 2007, 03:20:42 PM
Counsel Pro Hac Vice

from the Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_hac_vice


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 02, 2007, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Doesn't anyone else find it interresting that Joran has downloaded on his computer a 1992 Reggae band who's first song on their first album is called Murder She Wrote?  Seemed rather sociopathic to me  :wink:


Went to check out the song on YouTube, and from listening could only make out the lyrics that matched the title ad a few other words.  There seem to be several clips with young men lipsynching and in motion....seems to fit the punk gangstah pimp thing j2K & associates are into.

I couldn't find the song on YouTube (I looked).  I did find a "preview" of the song which I used.


Son needed to use computer, so I am just seeing this.  I went to YouTube and searched - reggae, Murder She Wrote, since I did not know the band name....the version I found had a couple of guy's names....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 02, 2007, 03:25:01 PM
Klaas, it was this one....then, I looked at some of the others that came up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IBkp0Eoz-w


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 03:42:56 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Klaas, it was this one....then, I looked at some of the others that came up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IBkp0Eoz-w

Thanks!  I was searching kindof late last night and missed it.  Couldn't use a YouTube for what I wanted anyway.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: justinsmama on April 02, 2007, 04:42:49 PM
If these are the lyrics, no wonder anyone had difficulty understanding what was being sung:

Quote
Lyrics: save the last dance - murder she wrote [Artist Lyrics]
Album: Unknown
Buy Music MP3 Online of Artist
Lyrics to save the last dance murder she wrote

fd7
Now dis one dedicated to the girls dem wid di angel face and the devil heart
Yuh no say Ragamuffin Chaka Demus an youth called Pliers
Come to deal with your case, step up my youth - Hear dis !

I know this little girl, her name is Maxine
Her beauty is like a bunch of rose
If I ever tell you bout Maxine
You would a say I don't know what I know (but)
Murder she wrote (fi real fi real)
Murder she wrote
Murder she wrote
Murder she wrote

Watch ya now, it name
A pretty face and bad character
Dem the kinda livin can't hold Chaka (follow me!)
A pretty face and bad character
Dem the kinda livin can't hold Chaka
Seh gal yuh pretty, Yuh face it pretty
But yuh character dirty
Gal yuh just act too flirty flirty
Yuh run to Tom, Dick, an also Harry
An when yuh find yuh mistake
Yuh talk bout yuh sorry, sorry, sorry (Come now!)

Have her (cruise?) di corner where she jooks an where she jam
She know about Lou, Crack an every money man
Me talk about coolie chiney, White Man and Indian
Di wickedest kind a girl whey Mr. Pliers buk upon
Now when yuh heard about this girl, her name is Maxine
Her beauty is like a bunch of rose
(But) If I ever tell you bout Maxine
You would a say I don't know what I know (but)
Murder she wrote (Murderation man)
Murder she wrote
Murder she wrote (Na na na)
Murder she wrote

Watch yuh now stand still, yuh no pay me light bill
If yuh tes di ragamuffin
Gal ya gwan get kill
Gal keep 'way
Caw yuh a crebbie crebbie
An di limits of me talk of if a DJ ((Any lyrics a me talk a it a DJ))
Gal come out
Becaw yuh nuh shockout
Now when yuh hear di ragamuffin
Yuh haffi jump and shout
Now touch me gate
Yuh nuh pay mi water rate
Becaw great is great, yuh cyaan underate (Follow me!)
Yuh pretty face an bad character
Dem the kinda livin can
Hold Chaka (Follow me!)
Yuh pretty face an bad character
Dem the kinda livin can
Hold Chaka
Seh girl yuh pretty
Yuh face is pretty
But yuh character dirty
Gal yuh just a have to
Flirty flirty
Yuh run to Tom Dick,
An also Harry
An when yuh find yuh mistake
Yuh talk bout yuh sorry
Sorry, sorry

Now every middle of the year Dis girl go have abortion
Fi di coolie white Man, Indian No seek inna ((nail fun?))
[ these lyrics found on http://www.completealbumlyrics.com ]
An jus di other day me see her six months pregnant
Now she up an switch her girl with other baby inna pram
So yuh heard about this girl Her name is Maxine
Her beauty's like a bunch of rose
An' if I ever tell you bout Maxine
You would a say I don't know what I know (but)
Murder she wrote
Murder she wrote
Murder she wrote (Na nana)
Murder she wrote

Excuse me!
Gal me never know yuh a so yuh stay
Ragamuffin Chaka Demus com fi flash it same way
Waoh woa (Follow me!)
Yuh pretty face an bad character
Dem the kinda livin can
Hold Chaka (Follow me!)
Yuh pretty face an bad character
Dem the kinda livin can
Hold Chaka
Seh girl yuh pretty
Yuh face is pretty
But yuh character dirty
Gal yuh just a have to
Flirty flirty
Yuh run to Tom, Dick
An also Harry
An when yuh plan yuh mischeif
Yuh talk bout yuh sorry
Sorry, sorry
Di gal a pose an' a brag how she look sexy
All she worship is pure vanity
Di gal a pose anna brag how she look ready
When she wash her clothes
It dirty
Gal yuh no ready
If yuh cyaan cook fi mi
Gal yuh no ready
If yuh cyaan wash fi mi
Gal yuh nuh ready
If yuh know yuh flirty flirty (Follow me!)
Yuh pretty face and bad character
Dem the kinda livin can't hold Chaka (Follow me now)
Yuh pretty face an bad character (Murder she wrote)
Dem the kinda livin can't (Murder she wrote)
Hold Chaka
So stand still (Murder she wrote Na nana)
Yuh no pay me light bill
An if yuh tes di ragamuffin (Murder she wrote)
Gal ya gwan get kill
Gal keep 'way
Caw yuh ahaffi back way
An di ((limit see me talk)) of him a DJ
Gal come out
Becaw yuh nuh shockout
Now when yuh hear di ragamuffin
Yuh haffi jump and shout
Now touch me ((gate?))
Yuh nuh pay mi water rate
Becaw great is great is yuh gong fi di rate (Come down)

Now yuh heard about this little girl
Her name is Maxine
Her face is like a bunch of rose
Man a if I ever tell you bout Maxine
You would a say I don't know what I know


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 04:47:52 PM
klass >>> mail!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: AZSunny on April 02, 2007, 05:06:25 PM
The FDA’s import alert, disclosed Monday but posted on its Web site Friday, notifies its field offices to detain any wheat gluten offered for import from the Chinese company.
The order also recommends inspectors screen all wheat gluten from China as well as from the Netherlands, a country through which transshipping of Chinese products can occur.

They are always involved aren't they?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 02, 2007, 05:10:36 PM
I did not mean NAH didn't do belly shots,I mean she didn't seek out jvds and ask him to do one off her.At least no one I spoke to saw that.He was not at cnc that long.CAT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Buckeye on April 02, 2007, 05:14:57 PM
Just reading the "diary"

On July 3rd, Joran says he's ok taking a polygraph:When they took me back to the police station they intergated me once again and asked me if I knew what a lie detector test was and if I had a problem taking on. I told them I have no problem at all taking one and they said okay.


On July 4th, Joran says: I promised my mom and dad yesterday that from now on I am not cooperating with them anymore because all they are trying to do is hang me.

Somebody didn't trust his innocence... to advise him not to be open and tell the truth...

And at least Paulus got called on it.

I just think of the boys that started the fire in LA.  Their parents took them to the police to fess up.  The parent's could of sent them to Illinois and no one would be the wiser.  But, they chose not to cover up/hide.

Africa will not fix Joran.  His problems are so deep. His parents have taught him how to be invisible.  They should be very scared and should also be held accountable.  If that song is from the 90s, it's scary he searched for "murder" songs...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 05:40:23 PM
MF / CR

I saw the "numbers." About ALLL of them cannot be verified,
in true ARUBAN/DUTCH hack-fraud form. You do not disappoint.

ABOUT THE BIGOTRY- MISPELLING MONKEY, all that jazz.

The only time anyone has ever brought up race,
or neo-facism, or Hitler, or whateverrrrrr...

IT HAS BEEN TRACED BACK TO DUTCH PIECES OF
SHIT.



Joran & his father would be 2 murdering, raping Dutch POS...

I'm thinking you
MF, just may be another piece
of DUTCH race baiting trash.


That is most likely why dear Klassend 'bitch smacks'

your sorry a$$ to the pavement everytime your try and spread

your Dutch/Aruban brain filth all over the SM FRONT PAGE!

So you probably should get used to the taste of street. imo

Letting filth like you post...


It's like letting a rabid dog go on a perfectly clean white carpet.

It is really uncalled for.

P.S. Charlie, hope you're livin' la Vida Loca in Bessemer, bro bro!
      Don't let your honey bunny bench press your heinie
      too many times.
It can give a "feller" a bad friggin' head rush. ;)

NOW THAT'S A LOT OF COWBELL!!!

Justice 4 Natalee. 8) :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: justinsmama on April 02, 2007, 05:50:14 PM
ARUBA SUX!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 05:51:54 PM
Just thought this was funny  :lol:

(http://www.uclick.com/feature/07/04/02/zi070402.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 05:54:14 PM
It is funny. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: San on April 02, 2007, 05:56:12 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Just thought this was funny  :lol:

(http://www.uclick.com/feature/07/04/02/zi070402.gif)

 :lol:  :lol:

Now can you change heads. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 05:59:25 PM
I might get in trouble for messing with a "current" Ziggy cartoon.  Think I'll leave that one alone, lol  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2007, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Just thought this was funny  :lol:

(http://www.uclick.com/feature/07/04/02/zi070402.gif)


 :lol:

Klaas, this cartoon reminds me of my nightmare a couple of months ago.

During a wind storm, the power went out while I was on the computer.  I did not worry ... this had happened before.  However, this time was different ... the power came back on but my hard drive had crashed.  All my Natalee Holloway files ... gone.  Hours and hours of research for nothing.  My husband tried to comfort me but ... I knew secretly he was rejoicing.  This guy does not say much but I know he has concerns regarding all the time I spend on the computer.

In tears, I contacted my computer geek son at his place of employment (teacher) and asked if he would come over after school and ... check things out.  He assured me he would but told me not to worry.  The previous week he had backed up my all my files while his wife and I had been yakking in the kitchen.  We have three grown kids who we love very much but ... this son immediately became my favorite.  However, while he reformatted my hard drive and transferred my Natalee files, I did  asked him not to tell the others.

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 06:48:29 PM
Tamikosmom -  :lol:

I have to say I've been very lucky.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 07:24:51 PM
i will be back later


People Get Ready



the train is coming  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: BTgirl on April 02, 2007, 07:28:20 PM
Y'all know that Aruba ad that runs endlessly on some of the TV stations? Well, does anyone understand the words they're singing? I can tell they're saying "come dance in Aruba," but after that it's all a big mystery to me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 07:31:05 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Y'all know that Aruba ad that runs endlessly on some of the TV stations? Well, does anyone understand the words they're singing? I can tell they're saying "come dance in Aruba," but after that it's all a big mystery to me.


i thought it was   "come be murdered in aruba"


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 07:50:20 PM
I thought it was


come play your tuba?!?
:?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: BTgirl on April 02, 2007, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
I thought it was


come play your tuba?!?
:?


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 02, 2007, 08:24:37 PM
Robots,you are right and u still skeeerrrr me.Carpe,do you really feel she was shot?Bt girl,I hope your BT is well from the food.I was talking a missonary today and she was telling the old opium routes were being used and the opiate products were shipped out guess where in Europe.CAt


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 09:05:05 PM
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(http://www.fmapublishing.com/images/donna_photo.jpg)

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Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 02, 2007, 09:06:43 PM
Looking forward to Dana.cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
Looking forward to Dana.cat


It's on right now CAT  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 09:29:03 PM
Stephanie Good

(http://www.waterside.com/StephanieGood.JPG)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 02, 2007, 09:32:09 PM
I was watching dancing.CAT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 02, 2007, 09:36:13 PM
Hi monkeys.  Just in time for Dana.  Spent what seemed like forever today reading pet food labels trying to decide what I could buy to feed my cats and dogs.  Some of that ingredient stuff is just plain foreign to me.  I opted for a food that did not contain any form of wheat or wheat gluten.  Hope I made the right choice.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 09:43:06 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hi monkeys.  Just in time for Dana.  Spent what seemed like forever today reading pet food labels trying to decide what I could buy to feed my cats and dogs.  Some of that ingredient stuff is just plain foreign to me.  I opted for a food that did not contain any form of wheat or wheat gluten.  Hope I made the right choice.

Lala's - other than making the food yourself I don't think there is any way to be certain.  That said, we feed our dogs Pedigree and to date none of their products are affected by the recall.

They are saying now that they can't be certain that the wheat gluten hasn't contaminated human food.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 02, 2007, 10:00:01 PM
That's what I bought finally, Pedigree.  I still get the feeling that some of these stores are not pulling that food off the shelves.  I still see the same brands as stated in the recall and they are still on the shelves.  Maybe it's the product numbers and not just the products.  Still won't buy it regardless.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 10:01:16 PM
Website for the Hollywood Movie Machine - under construction:

http://www.hollywoodmoviemachine.com/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 10:03:15 PM
GREAT SHOW AGAIN DANA!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 10:05:34 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
That's what I bought finally, Pedigree.  I still get the feeling that some of these stores are not pulling that food off the shelves.  I still see the same brands as stated in the recall and they are still on the shelves.  Maybe it's the product numbers and not just the products.  Still won't buy it regardless.


Lala's - did you read back and see my latest Joran video?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 02, 2007, 10:05:43 PM
Yes, it was a good show, Dana.  Good job as always!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 02, 2007, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
That's what I bought finally, Pedigree.  I still get the feeling that some of these stores are not pulling that food off the shelves.  I still see the same brands as stated in the recall and they are still on the shelves.  Maybe it's the product numbers and not just the products.  Still won't buy it regardless.


Lala's - did you read back and see my latest Joran video?


No.  I will do that now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 02, 2007, 10:12:17 PM
Klaas
Do you stay up late at night working on those?  I do hope the Darkside enjoys it.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Dana on April 02, 2007, 10:18:48 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Yes, it was a good show, Dana.  Good job as always!


Thank You


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 10:20:39 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Klaas
Do you stay up late at night working on those?  I do hope the Darkside enjoys it.  :wink:


Sometimes I do, yes  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 02, 2007, 10:27:22 PM
I heard C.rat lives in Pelham and works in Bessemer.I really don't think he lives in Bessemer.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 02, 2007, 10:27:47 PM
Dana
If you are still here... would you mind explaining how you decide who and what subjects for your show?  Where do you get your info?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 10:28:46 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
I heard C.rat lives in Pelham and works in Bessemer.I really don't think he lives in Bessemer.



i dont think he is a lawyer  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 10:31:36 PM
Victor just posted at FOB regarding the screen shot of Joran's PC.  Victor had posted it yesterday for about 11 minutes but took it down:

I deleted it because there was a number in it (allthough probably not in use anymore).
 
There was/is a discussion here about stolen material, people indirectly being linked to a crime and a police investigation going on, so I guessed you and others might be interested to take a look at it (it was a screencap of filesharing posted by Sultan on RU).
It might be of importance to make sure whether a crime occured or not, maybe you and others can judge about that when looking at the cap since I am not familar with those.
 

If you want me to repost it let me know and I will look it up.
 
grtz.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 10:41:15 PM
on the Night in question there was a DIRTY- FILTY -DISGUSTING - ARUBA COP involved..........

and more of the FLEA BAGS got involved in the cover up

man, ARUBA BLOWS CHUNCKS
what a wretched evil island


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 02, 2007, 10:55:43 PM
Good Evening, Monkeys,

Dana, Great program!

GEL,
I posted with that Big Fish for quite some time.  I can't believe he is still doing that juvenile train routine.  It wasn't funny the first time he did it almost two years ago now.  Silliest thing I have ever seen.

And he started it out as a prediction that any minute the train (FBI) was going to run over (arrest) not the suspects but BETH!!!  Yes, he is one of those fruitcakes.  Never specified exactly what she might be arrested for exactly, either.

He also has a very, very suspicious attitude about alcohol and how it can consume lives, sounds like a person who has spent a lot of time at meetings if you get my drift.  

Generally, just not the brightest crayon in the box to keep up with the train after all this time, constantly predicting any minute Beth is a goner!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 10:59:12 PM
did joran say. deepak came with two dogs ?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 11:05:16 PM
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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passing the crack pipe


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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passing the crack pipe


They may be in damage control mode.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:12:10 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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passing the crack pipe


They may be in damage control mode.   :wink:


train wreck .....LOL  :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Buckeye on April 02, 2007, 11:12:24 PM
Quote from: "robots"
did joran say. deepak came with two dogs ?


I believe so...and Ramm said the translation was of the canine version, not as in friends or people....for what it's worth.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "robots"
did joran say. deepak came with two dogs ?


I believe so...and Ramm said the translation was of the canine version, not as in friends or people....for what it's worth.


thanks Buckeye  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 02, 2007, 11:23:45 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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Just think when they are in invisible mode they can't do as much damage.  No one can see them.  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Buckeye on April 02, 2007, 11:26:09 PM
robots

The famous vanderstratten relayed statement of Joran's June 13th (my interpretaion: to get Joran off the hook for his confession June 10th)

I, Jan van der STRATEN, police chief with the Aruban Police Corps, state the following.

On Monday June 13th 2005, at approximately 13.00 hours I spoke informally with the suspect Joran Andreas Petrus v/d SLOOT at the police station in Oranjestad.

On my question to Joran whether he can tell me what happened after the girl had fallen asleep on the beach near Fisherman's Hut, he answered:

“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did something to her.”

To my question where the girl was buried then, he answered:
“I think that it was buried then next to the wall of the Fisherman's Hut, for the rest I would not know either.”


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 02, 2007, 11:27:04 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Good Evening, Monkeys,

Dana, Great program!

GEL,
I posted with that Big Fish for quite some time.  I can't believe he is still doing that juvenile train routine.  It wasn't funny the first time he did it almost two years ago now.  Silliest thing I have ever seen.

And he started it out as a prediction that any minute the train (FBI) was going to run over (arrest) not the suspects but BETH!!!  Yes, he is one of those fruitcakes.  Never specified exactly what she might be arrested for exactly, either.

He also has a very, very suspicious attitude about alcohol and how it can consume lives, sounds like a person who has spent a lot of time at meetings if you get my drift.  

Generally, just not the brightest crayon in the box to keep up with the train after all this time, constantly predicting any minute Beth is a goner!

.


Hi everyone

Hi Anna,I remember you when you were at RWV.I was just reading at the time and I think you had already left when I finally got the courage up to post.

BF was always c/p articles on alchol,drugs,etc. to the board.He also was/is very protective of PVDS and Joran.I truly would like to know who he is.

I mean if Glenda is Julia BF may be someone in cohorts with the VDS's and IMO there's probably a few more posting that are too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:30:37 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
robots

The famous vanderstratten relayed statement of Joran's June 13th (my interpretaion: to get Joran off the hook for his confession June 10th)

I, Jan van der STRATEN, police chief with the Aruban Police Corps, state the following.

On Monday June 13th 2005, at approximately 13.00 hours I spoke informally with the suspect Joran Andreas Petrus v/d SLOOT at the police station in Oranjestad.

On my question to Joran whether he can tell me what happened after the girl had fallen asleep on the beach near Fisherman's Hut, he answered:

“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did something to her.”

To my question where the girl was buried then, he answered:
“I think that it was buried then next to the wall of the Fisherman's Hut, for the rest I would not know either.”



hmmmmmm...


 that is great  thank you


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:32:27 PM
DOGS...

think.. robots

think.. robots

think..  robots


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:34:09 PM
Quote from: "robots"
did joran say. deepak came with two dogs ?



yup, but he was talkin' about Mrs. Kalpoe and the sistah!!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:35:28 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "robots"
did joran say. deepak came with two dogs ?



yup, but he was talkin' about Mrs. Kalpoe and the sistah!!! :lol:




heheheheehhhheeeeeeeeee :smt042


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:35:32 PM
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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passing the crack pipe



Passin' the DOUCHIE pon ye REFT hand side! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:37:15 PM
Maybe that razor burn

Medley is givin' them a little

giggle & a jiggle :?:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:39:09 PM
well, well, well, Joran the SOOTHSAYER thinks deepak raped the girl
now, why would joran think something like that happened ????
HUH ????  WHY ???  

i will tell you why because Joran knows she was raped and he wants to pin it on ANYONE but himself

guess he never read about DNA in his crimimal studying
dumbass


there is always 10 percent truth in all of his lies...


“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did something to her.”


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:39:20 PM
Hi ALL! Hiya Annaa!!


 :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 02, 2007, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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Do they have a "back room"?  I don't know much about their website.  I think I've only there once maybe twice.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 11:41:31 PM
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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Do they have a "back room"?  I don't know much about their website.  I think I've only there once maybe twice.


They have to have a "secret" members only room, IMO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:41:37 PM
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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Do they have a "back room"?  I don't know much about their website.  I think I've only there once maybe twice.


i think so, i think thats where the crack pipe is kept  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 02, 2007, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Hi ALL! Hiya Annaa!!


 :wink:


Hi, Carpe!   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 02, 2007, 11:41:46 PM
Deepak and the dogs is one of Joran's better lies.  He really has some imagination.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:42:37 PM
Quote from: "robots"
well, well, well, Joran the SOOTHSAYER thinks deepak raped the girl
now, why would joran think something like that happened ????
HUH ????  WHY ???  

i will tell you why because Joran knows she was raped and he wants to pin it on ANYONE but himself

guess he never read about DNA in his crimimal studying
dumbass


there is always 10 percent truth in all of his lies...





“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did something to her.”






there is always 10 percent truth in all of his lies...


That is sort of a scumbag's version of tithing.


JORAN >>> LOADMASTER


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 02, 2007, 11:42:53 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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Do they have a "back room"?  I don't know much about their website.  I think I've only there once maybe twice.


They have to have a "secret" members only room, IMO


That's what I was thinking too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 02, 2007, 11:43:30 PM
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "klaasend"
FOB - 50 users online and nobody posting in the open forum.  Guess they just like to hang out there, lol  :lol:

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Do they have a "back room"?  I don't know much about their website.  I think I've only there once maybe twice.



They must be passing something with all this fighting!
i think so, i think thats where the crack pipe is kept  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:43:44 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Hi ALL! Hiya Annaa!!


 :wink:


Hi, Carpe!   :D


The new Easter outfit is HOT. :P

You always have the best avatars!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 02, 2007, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "robots"
did joran say. deepak came with two dogs ?


I believe so...and Ramm said the translation was of the canine version, not as in friends or people....for what it's worth.


Buckeye,
Yes, that is what Ramm said.  He said there are different words for the human kind of dawgs and the canine ones and these definitely were canines.  Further, had they been the human variety, I believe vd Straaten would have at least asked their names.

 :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 11:45:32 PM
Evening all

No Flames Please...

I talked to SandraK a day or so ago on IM...  She never mentioned to me about what she had posted about Jorans book thing. I didnt ask either cause I have been so behind due too work.. Read when I can.
  She did say she hasnt been in rehab or the nuthouse. I know the last time I spoken to her which was way back in December or so? She wasnt feeling well.   She was recently in the hospital for this she said.. and was suppose to go visit her hubbys family recently but wasnt able to. So her vacation coming up.. is to India to hubbys family for the holiday.
  I am trying to catch up reading and posts that were made at FOB too.
Im still a bit confused about the postings of that book stuff? Is she in trouble for doing so? I :shock:    I read them on SM.. gone dorm FOB I see.
  Like I said dont flame me over this.  I ddint talk long.. I had to leave.
So I am a bit confuzzled...  lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 11:46:29 PM
Anna - love your new Easter avatar!

Lala's - got an Easter card for my son today.  It's a bassett hound with bunny ears.  The caption says "Wasn't having me fixed cruel enough?" LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2007, 11:48:10 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Evening all

No Flames Please...

I talked to SandraK a day or so ago on IM...  She never mentioned to me about what she had posted about Jorans book thing. I didnt ask either cause I have been so behind due too work.. Read when I can.
  She did say she hasnt been in rehab or the nuthouse. I know the last time I spoken to her which was way back in December or so? She wasnt feeling well.   She was recently in the hospital for this she said.. and was suppose to go visit her hubbys family recently but wasnt able to. So her vacation coming up.. is to India to hubbys family for the holiday.
  I am trying to catch up reading and posts that were made at FOB too.
Im still a bit confused about the postings of that book stuff? Is she in trouble for doing so? I :shock:    I read them on SM.. gone dorm FOB I see.
  Like I said dont flame me over this.  I ddint talk long.. I had to leave.
So I am a bit confuzzled...  lol


From what I'm reading SandraK should NOT be in trouble.  Sounds like this stuff has been around a long time and SandraK just brought it to light.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:48:20 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Evening all

No Flames Please...

I talked to SandraK a day or so ago on IM...  She never mentioned to me about what she had posted about Jorans book thing. I didnt ask either cause I have been so behind due too work.. Read when I can.
  She did say she hasnt been in rehab or the nuthouse. I know the last time I spoken to her which was way back in December or so? She wasnt feeling well.   She was recently in the hospital for this she said.. and was suppose to go visit her hubbys family recently but wasnt able to. So her vacation coming up.. is to India to hubbys family for the holiday.
  I am trying to catch up reading and posts that were made at FOB too.
Im still a bit confused about the postings of that book stuff? Is she in trouble for doing so? I :shock:    I read them on SM.. gone dorm FOB I see.
  Like I said dont flame me over this.  I ddint talk long.. I had to leave.
So I am a bit confuzzled...  lol



hey ang...


Who'd ever flame you, you are too lovable?!!??


What's up, luv? :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 02, 2007, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Hi ALL! Hiya Annaa!!


 :wink:


Hi, Carpe!   :D


The new Easter outfit is HOT. :P

You always have the best avatars!



Thank you!  I do catch a little flak about it but it's basically a Barbie Doll.  There are many huge websites devoted to them and you can make your own doll by choosing outfits from hundreds of possibilities.  Yes, I still play with dollies.   :wink:

I have hundreds I have dressed and stored on my computer and others send them to me as well after they create an outfit.  I have fun with all the twelve year olds there, haha!  They are usually called Dollz for some reason.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Hi ALL! Hiya Annaa!!


 :wink:


Hi, Carpe!   :D


The new Easter outfit is HOT. :P

You always have the best avatars!


Anna does have cool avaclothes  8)
she is like my daughter, changes her clothes 3 times a day
sometimes 3 times before i even take her to school  :shock:

seems like a do alot of laundry for her.....

i need to work on this


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 11:49:59 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Evening all

No Flames Please...

I talked to SandraK a day or so ago on IM...  She never mentioned to me about what she had posted about Jorans book thing. I didnt ask either cause I have been so behind due too work.. Read when I can.
  She did say she hasnt been in rehab or the nuthouse. I know the last time I spoken to her which was way back in December or so? She wasnt feeling well.   She was recently in the hospital for this she said.. and was suppose to go visit her hubbys family recently but wasnt able to. So her vacation coming up.. is to India to hubbys family for the holiday.
  I am trying to catch up reading and posts that were made at FOB too.
Im still a bit confused about the postings of that book stuff? Is she in trouble for doing so? I :shock:    I read them on SM.. gone dorm FOB I see.
  Like I said dont flame me over this.  I ddint talk long.. I had to leave.
So I am a bit confuzzled...  lol


From what I'm reading SandraK should NOT be in trouble.  Sounds like this stuff has been around a long time and SandraK just brought it to light.


  LOL  Thanks Klaas..  I been lost  :oops:  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Buckeye on April 02, 2007, 11:51:30 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "robots"
did joran say. deepak came with two dogs ?


I believe so...and Ramm said the translation was of the canine version, not as in friends or people....for what it's worth.


Buckeye,
Yes, that is what Ramm said.  He said there are different words for the human kind of dawgs and the canine ones and these definitely were canines.  Further, had they been the human variety, I believe vd Straaten would have at least asked their names.

 :?


Yes Anna, and I believe GetaGrip translated the Diario article which also said that JVDS asked Joran if she was disposed at sea and he responded "No, I mean...I don't know"  IIRC


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Evening all

No Flames Please...

I talked to SandraK a day or so ago on IM...  She never mentioned to me about what she had posted about Jorans book thing. I didnt ask either cause I have been so behind due too work.. Read when I can.
  She did say she hasnt been in rehab or the nuthouse. I know the last time I spoken to her which was way back in December or so? She wasnt feeling well.   She was recently in the hospital for this she said.. and was suppose to go visit her hubbys family recently but wasnt able to. So her vacation coming up.. is to India to hubbys family for the holiday.
  I am trying to catch up reading and posts that were made at FOB too.
Im still a bit confused about the postings of that book stuff? Is she in trouble for doing so? I :shock:    I read them on SM.. gone dorm FOB I see.
  Like I said dont flame me over this.  I ddint talk long.. I had to leave.
So I am a bit confuzzled...  lol



hey ang...


Who'd ever flame you, you are too lovable?!!??


What's up, luv? :wink:

 

  ROFL Carpe  :)
If I get flamed.. I am a big girl.. I can take it!  :)
  Im honest at least!
Lovable?  LMFAO..   :twisted:  :twisted:  Im sure others would disagree there  :wink:
  What up with your bad self ?  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Cat on April 02, 2007, 11:54:19 PM
I can say two things,Charlie does not live in Bessemer and you said @ dogs,oh my ,I will not finish that joke.I am waiting for two things,Justice for Natalee and answers for Beth and Dave.to hell with aruba,cat  41 days till justice


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 02, 2007, 11:54:57 PM
Angie,
Well, I'm so confused that I thought it was Glenda going to rehab or the nuthouse instead of Sandra K!!

Julia specializes in stabbing people in the back.  Remember she blabbed allowing JQK to serve the Sloots in NYC!

I don't think anyone here wants to flame you, lol!   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 02, 2007, 11:55:58 PM
<---very confused about everything

most of the time


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:56:06 PM
oh goshhhhh,


MR just wished Aruba's Addam's Family this big ol' fuzzy wuzzy

Hallmark type happy Easter, I think I just choked on my  Pop-Tart!!!


Faithfully blind til the end, I guess.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:56:33 PM
LOL, Angie. Doing just fine! :twisted:  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 02, 2007, 11:57:08 PM
Sorry cat. LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: igsigs on April 02, 2007, 11:57:15 PM
Saw where Victor said that she is not sure that the hearing is about removing someones name from the book. I guess we don't have a good (any) source for that?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Buckeye on April 02, 2007, 11:57:51 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
I can say two things,Charlie does not live in Bessemer and you said @ dogs,oh my ,I will not finish that joke.I am waiting for two things,Justice for Natalee and answers for Beth and Dave.to hell with aruba,cat  41 days till justice


I would love to see them bring every single person, named as a suspect, since the beginning of this case, into the same court room and watch them implode on each other.....they would need an arena just for all the lawyers...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 02, 2007, 11:58:44 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
I can say two things,Charlie does not live in Bessemer and you said @ dogs,oh my ,I will not finish that joke.I am waiting for two things,Justice for Natalee and answers for Beth and Dave.to hell with aruba,cat  41 days till justice



 :shock:   SO Da Rat dont live in Bessemer?  
  Natalee WILL have JUSTICE and I hope soon CAT!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 12:00:04 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Anna - love your new Easter avatar!

Lala's - got an Easter card for my son today.  It's a bassett hound with bunny ears.  The caption says "Wasn't having me fixed cruel enough?" LOL


LOL I really hate to give up my little dog after Easter.  It's so me at times.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:01:46 AM
They just revealed the picture of the Mansur's Gardener

over at the FOB!!!! :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 12:01:49 AM
Quote from: "robots"
[Anna does have cool avaclothes  8)
she is like my daughter, changes her clothes 3 times a day
sometimes 3 times before i even take her to school  :shock:

seems like a do alot of laundry for her.....

i need to work on this



Maybe you could find her a good dollmaker on the internet and she could change its clothes all day long and have a choice of thousands instead of doing os in real life.

Not everyone likes Barbie, though.  I think she would need to be a Barbie fan first to get into it.  But there is a whole world out there of people who make these dolls and endlessly change their outfits.  I have no explanation for this strange behavior but we do enjoy it and there are other kinds of dolls besides Barbie with outfits, accessories, jewelry, etc.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Buckeye on April 03, 2007, 12:02:00 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Saw where Victor said that she is not sure that the hearing is about removing someones name from the book. I guess we don't have a good (any) source for that?


Been thinking about this.  Originally, wasn't Joran just suppose to write the jacket cover??  Perhaps momma Sloot headed to Holland to confront the publisher because Joran didn't get final approval and the Sloots don't want the book published. It would make sense a court case against the publisher would involve the contributing author.  I would think the people in the book, couldn't sue until after publishing. IMO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Buckeye on April 03, 2007, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Saw where Victor said that she is not sure that the hearing is about removing someones name from the book. I guess we don't have a good (any) source for that?


Been thinking about this.  Originally, wasn't Joran just suppose to write the jacket cover??  Perhaps momma Sloot headed to Holland to confront the publisher because Joran didn't get final approval and the Sloots don't want the book published. It would make sense a court case against the publisher would involve the contributing author.  I would think the people in the book, couldn't sue until after publishing. IMO


Adding, always seemed like a contract dispute to me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:04:06 AM
>>>>>

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/biggie.gif)



Biggie Smallz


REST IN PEACE, DAWGGGG!!!!!!!    ROFLMAO :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 12:04:10 AM
“I called DEEPAK and he came with two dogs. I think he raped the girl and did
something to her.”

so, JORAN saw deepak come to the beach... hmmmm

he came with two dogs


why not  1 dog

why not 4 dogs

why not 3 dogs

JORAN saw deepak come with 2 DOGS

so , then joran just decided to walk home at that point


"SEE YA LATER DEEPAK"


 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 12:04:46 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
They just revealed the picture of the Mansur's Gardener

over at the FOB!!!! :shock:


Where?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 12:04:54 AM
Can someone actually tell me how to get to FOB?  I've only been like twice like I stated and I followed a link from here then. Sounds like they are fighting as much as RU or is it fighting with RU?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:05:53 AM
Not everyone likes Barbie, though.




They are just "hating", Anna. They're jealous! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Not everyone likes Barbie, though.




They are just "hating", Anna. They're jealous! :wink:


Barbie is the best!  She has been around my house for a LONG time with three daughters!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 12:07:15 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "robots"
[Anna does have cool avaclothes  8)
she is like my daughter, changes her clothes 3 times a day
sometimes 3 times before i even take her to school  :shock:

seems like a do alot of laundry for her.....

i need to work on this



Maybe you could find her a good dollmaker on the internet and she could change its clothes all day long and have a choice of thousands instead of doing os in real life.

Not everyone likes Barbie, though.  I think she would need to be a Barbie fan first to get into it.  But there is a whole world out there of people who make these dolls and endlessly change their outfits.  I have no explanation for this strange behavior but we do enjoy it and there are other kinds of dolls besides Barbie with outfits, accessories, jewelry, etc.

.


thank you Anna 8)

i know that when she was younger she wanted to be the PINK POWER RANGER.......i got her a POWER RANGER gymanstics leotard that she wore and i have the picture on the wall of her wearing it



myself, i liked the power rangers too

i liked em a lot


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:08:05 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
They just revealed the picture of the Mansur's Gardener

over at the FOB!!!! :shock:


Where?



The Mansur gardener WAS BIGGIE SMALLZ - The Rapper

R.I.P.


...it was a funny, albeit

A BAD ONE. :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: "casa"
Can someone actually tell me how to get to FOB?  I've only been like twice like I stated and I followed a link from here then. Sounds like they are fighting as much as RU or is it fighting with RU?


i wish i could tell you....i will wait for the asnwer myself


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 12:08:10 AM
Quote from: "casa"
Can someone actually tell me how to get to FOB?  I've only been like twice like I stated and I followed a link from here then. Sounds like they are fighting as much as RU or is it fighting with RU?


freedomofblog.com


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 12:09:08 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
They just revealed the picture of the Mansur's Gardener

over at the FOB!!!! :shock:


Where?



The Mansur gardener WAS BIGGIE SMALLZ - The Rapper

R.I.P.


...it was a funny, albeit

A BAD ONE. :)

Geeze Carpe, it's April 2nd not the 1st, LOL  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Buckeye on April 03, 2007, 12:09:19 AM
Quote from: "robots"

i know that when she was younger she wanted to be the PINK POWER RANGER.......i got her a POWER RANGER gymanstics leotard that she wore and i have the picture on the wall of her wearing it



myself, i liked the power rangers too

i liked em a lot



And I always saw you as a transformers sort of guy...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:09:31 AM
They actually put a up a thread as a tribute to him. :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "casa"
Can someone actually tell me how to get to FOB?  I've only been like twice like I stated and I followed a link from here then. Sounds like they are fighting as much as RU or is it fighting with RU?


freedomofblog.com


Thanks, klaasend!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:09:56 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Angie,
Well, I'm so confused that I thought it was Glenda going to rehab or the nuthouse instead of Sandra K!!

Julia specializes in stabbing people in the back.  Remember she blabbed allowing JQK to serve the Sloots in NYC!

I don't think anyone here wants to flame you, lol!   :D


 Hi Anna!  Love your AVI!
Maybe it was Bondia/Julia/Glendathemeanbitch  ?

 I just posted what I talked to SandraK about.
 Yes Julia has a big mouth.. and alot of us knew way back when Bondia was Julia.. at least ONE of them. Some of the SM posters talked to her off the forum.. and had to blab it was her.. She outed herself bsically in one of the threads,., I have saved.. if we can ever get back to that info. I was too dumb then to save it other ways,, I am PC stupid. I got tons and tons of threads saved.. that  I hope someday I can get back to!!!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 12:09:59 AM
Robots,
I think Joran said that at the time he was still pretending Deepak picked him up from the beach.  Supposedly, Deepak would have taken Joran home then gone back to the beach to do something to Natalee.

But we know Joran has said Deepak, then he walked home and then was the final version Satish picked him up?

Or was the final version he walked home, I have forgotten!

Anyway, he just needed for them to know where Natalee was so he could pretend they went back after dropping him off at home and did something to her.

. :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Not everyone likes Barbie, though.




They are just "hating", Anna. They're jealous! :wink:


Sound like Anna is up for the medal this week. You go girl!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:14:21 AM
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/FDFHDJFJDH.png)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:14:32 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Anna - love your new Easter avatar!

Lala's - got an Easter card for my son today.  It's a bassett hound with bunny ears.  The caption says "Wasn't having me fixed cruel enough?" LOL


LOL I really hate to give up my little dog after Easter.  It's so me at times.




 :D  Lalas..    :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 12:16:37 AM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "robots"

i know that when she was younger she wanted to be the PINK POWER RANGER.......i got her a POWER RANGER gymanstics leotard that she wore and i have the picture on the wall of her wearing it



myself, i liked the power rangers too

i liked em a lot



And I always saw you as a transformers sort of guy...


yea, i liked those too

but when youre a robots you dream of being human  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:16:38 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
LOL, Angie. Doing just fine! :twisted:  :)


 Awesome  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:17:22 AM
I brake for das Van der Loompas. [/color]:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


not!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 12:19:25 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Robots,
I think Joran said that at the time he was still pretending Deepak picked him up from the beach.  Supposedly, Deepak would have taken Joran home then gone back to the beach to do something to Natalee.

But we know Joran has said Deepak, then he walked home and then was the final version Satish picked him up?

Or was the final version he walked home, I have forgotten!

Anyway, he just needed for them to know where Natalee was so he could pretend they went back after dropping him off at home and did something to her.

. :roll:


yes, i see what you mean  8)



joran tells multiple lies but he didnt do anythng wrong

i bet the slooots are so proud


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 12:19:26 AM
Well, Angie,
I am just totally clueless on this book thing.  I don't see anything in what was posted in English even interesting so am not sure why that would be a crime.  Both Julia and Sandra K seem fully capable of publishing something given in confidence so I don't know which one is being blamed for that.

For some reason, I can't follow this but is it tied to the court order?  Yes, I agree with Buckeye that it sounds like a contractual dispute of some sort.  That might well be the Sloots.  Maybe Joran has said something very incriminating and they are desperately trying to stop it being presented for sale?

Or perhaps the book totally slanders people who were not involved at all?  

I am just not following all this very well.  Just reading along trying to figure it all out.

. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
They just revealed the picture of the Mansur's Gardener

over at the FOB!!!! :shock:


Where?



The Mansur gardener WAS BIGGIE SMALLZ - The Rapper

R.I.P.


...it was a funny, albeit

A BAD ONE. :)



  I am behind,..  Carpe you are BAD..LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:20:16 AM
>>> speed up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:21:53 AM
the speed up

comment was directed at the braking for van der loompas...

not at you angie.


my timing is off tonight! rofl :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:26:58 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Well, Angie,
I am just totally clueless on this book thing.  I don't see anything in what was posted in English even interesting so am not sure why that would be a crime.  Both Julia and Sandra K seem fully capable of publishing something given in confidence so I don't know which one is being blamed for that.

For some reason, I can't follow this but is it tied to the court order?  Yes, I agree with Buckeye that it sounds like a contractual dispute of some sort.  That might well be the Sloots.  Maybe Joran has said something very incriminating and they are desperately trying to stop it being presented for sale?

Or perhaps the book totally slanders people who were not involved at all?  

I am just not following all this very well.  Just reading along trying to figure it all out.

. :wink:


  I try my best to stay caught up!!
 We dont have the internet at work.  Well the owenr does.. but his puter is in his office and that door remains locked unless he is there.  Pffft.
  I am lost as well Anna.. so IMO I guess it wasnt any type of crime then that it was posted?
  I guess I will ne in total shock if this book of the goons is ever published. Medley.. put that in your crack pipe in Crescent and smoke it!  :twisted:
 I did have to laugh at a post she made at FOB.. I almost fell off my chair actually.. how the VDS talk when shes visited?  ROFLMAO. They could be talking about what an ass she is and she dont know it if they only talk to her in English!   :roll:  :roll:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:28:32 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
the speed up

comment was directed at the braking for van der loompas...

not at you angie.


my timing is off tonight! rofl :lol:


 ROFL  its ok..   :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:30:43 AM
Those RUFOB types are melting, they're discovering
that the murdering/raping Sporter now lies to them
just as easily as all the others.


They are angry, they feel abused, hurt, and even abandoned.

The Sporter has taken "Glenda Of Of The Good Witch" in the mailing...

and he

crapped on her ruby red slippers.

You're not supposed

to run those through the dryer, ya know.

>>> cool air,

no heat cycle.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:36:25 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Those RUFOB types are melting, they're discovering
that the murdering/raping Sporter now lies to them
just as easily as all the others.


They are angry, they feel abused, hurt, and even abandoned.

The Sporter has taken "Glenda Of Of The Good Witch" in the mailing...

and he

crapped on her ruby red slippers.

You're not supposed

to run those through the dryer, ya know.

>>> cool air,

no heat cycle.


 Best job for REN~HO would be head nurse somewhere?   :twisted:
Heard she liked being on her knees in the past.. the FLUFFA!
(http://bestsmileys.com/eating1/5.gif)

 Bet MAMA Sidalee gets pissed and comes to her defense.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 12:38:53 AM
I really wish I had not gone to FOB.  I decided to scan through some old threads and came across one that was Christmas wishes to the van der sloots.  A poster had posted a link to a you tube video of Kelly Clarkson singing "Grown Up Christmas Wish".  My middle daughter who is Natalee's age is a singer and sings that song.  It always makes me cry even on my best days!  I can call my baby and see her when others can't see theirs.  I apologize but things like this make me furious.  Maybe it comes from having one daughter Natalee's age and one a year younger.  Maybe it comes from knowing some of the family.  I just think I might need to stick with the Monkeys and not read other places because I just cannot understand the minds of those people.  How can you not care!  Again I am sorry for my ranting but I just can't understand such hatred even though I am not naive this is even beyond my comprehension.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:39:04 AM
:lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 12:41:36 AM
Since the Darkside is angry at Joran now, I think it's time for me to hug Nemo and get to bed.  Night all.

BTW Congrats to Florida for winning the National Championship in Basketball tonight.  Good Job!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:42:49 AM
Quote from: "casa"
I really wish I had not gone to FOB.  I decided to scan through some old threads and came across one that was Christmas wishes to the van der sloots.  A poster had posted a link to a you tube video of Kelly Clarkson singing "Grown Up Christmas Wish".  My middle daughter who is Natalee's age is a singer and sings that song.  It always makes me cry even on my best days!  I can call my baby and see her when others can't see theirs.  I apologize but things like this make me furious.  Maybe it comes from having one daughter Natalee's age and one a year younger.  Maybe it comes from knowing some of the family.  I just think I might need to stick with the Monkeys and not read other places because I just cannot understand the minds of those people.  How can you not care!  Again I am sorry for my ranting but I just can't understand such hatred even though I am not naive this is even beyond my comprehension.


  Casa ,
    Im sorry for you.. and The Cuz.   :(    Big hugs to you sweety.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:45:14 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Since the Darkside is angry at Joran now, I think it's time for me to hug Nemo and get to bed.  Night all.

BTW Congrats to Florida for winning the National Championship in Basketball tonight.  Good Job!



Oh sure  ignore me   :roll:  :roll:  I am starting a book  :wink:
  Just kidding Lalas..  :lol:
  I am stil trying to cath up to all of this.   As MRS RED would say,, work is overrated,, :)
  Have a good nigh tlalas.. and I wil hug Nemo too when I go  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 12:53:47 AM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "casa"
I really wish I had not gone to FOB.  I decided to scan through some old threads and came across one that was Christmas wishes to the van der sloots.  A poster had posted a link to a you tube video of Kelly Clarkson singing "Grown Up Christmas Wish".  My middle daughter who is Natalee's age is a singer and sings that song.  It always makes me cry even on my best days!  I can call my baby and see her when others can't see theirs.  I apologize but things like this make me furious.  Maybe it comes from having one daughter Natalee's age and one a year younger.  Maybe it comes from knowing some of the family.  I just think I might need to stick with the Monkeys and not read other places because I just cannot understand the minds of those people.  How can you not care!  Again I am sorry for my ranting but I just can't understand such hatred even though I am not naive this is even beyond my comprehension.


  Casa ,
    Im sorry for you.. and The Cuz.   :(    Big hugs to you sweety.




Thanks, Angie!  This has been so hard on the cuz and her family.  I so remember that day that I went to pick up my daughter from work and she told me what had happened.  The cuz had a picture of Natalee in her store and that was the first time I had seen her.  That was a very emotional summer for me and my child, but nothing like for the family.  I was so proud of my daughter as I watched her cry for a girl she had never met and try to comfort the cuz as the days went by with no word.  It just makes me furious when I see the things people say when they don't have a clue.  I try to remember that people will someday get what they deserve and that God has his hand in it and will have the last word.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 12:58:46 AM
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "casa"
I really wish I had not gone to FOB.  I decided to scan through some old threads and came across one that was Christmas wishes to the van der sloots.  A poster had posted a link to a you tube video of Kelly Clarkson singing "Grown Up Christmas Wish".  My middle daughter who is Natalee's age is a singer and sings that song.  It always makes me cry even on my best days!  I can call my baby and see her when others can't see theirs.  I apologize but things like this make me furious.  Maybe it comes from having one daughter Natalee's age and one a year younger.  Maybe it comes from knowing some of the family.  I just think I might need to stick with the Monkeys and not read other places because I just cannot understand the minds of those people.  How can you not care!  Again I am sorry for my ranting but I just can't understand such hatred even though I am not naive this is even beyond my comprehension.


  Casa ,
    Im sorry for you.. and The Cuz.   :(    Big hugs to you sweety.




Thanks, Angie!  This has been so hard on the cuz and her family.  I so remember that day that I went to pick up my daughter from work and she told me what had happened.  The cuz had a picture of Natalee in her store and that was the first time I had seen her.  That was a very emotional summer for me and my child, but nothing like for the family.  I was so proud of my daughter as I watched her cry for a girl she had never met and try to comfort the cuz as the days went by with no word.  It just makes me furious when I see the things people say when they don't have a clue.  I try to remember that people will someday get what they deserve and that God has his hand in it and will have the last word.


 Casa,,
  It will happen.. Have Faith!  I am glad you are there for  THE CUZ and your daughter. Love yah both.. and the cuz knows we are all here for her as well. I may be ornery as all heck.. but I do pray every day. Keeping you all in my prayers Casa!   HUGS!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 01:03:14 AM
Did I skeer everyone away? I aint ROBOTS!  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 01:03:23 AM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "casa"
I really wish I had not gone to FOB.  I decided to scan through some old threads and came across one that was Christmas wishes to the van der sloots.  A poster had posted a link to a you tube video of Kelly Clarkson singing "Grown Up Christmas Wish".  My middle daughter who is Natalee's age is a singer and sings that song.  It always makes me cry even on my best days!  I can call my baby and see her when others can't see theirs.  I apologize but things like this make me furious.  Maybe it comes from having one daughter Natalee's age and one a year younger.  Maybe it comes from knowing some of the family.  I just think I might need to stick with the Monkeys and not read other places because I just cannot understand the minds of those people.  How can you not care!  Again I am sorry for my ranting but I just can't understand such hatred even though I am not naive this is even beyond my comprehension.


  Casa ,
    Im sorry for you.. and The Cuz.   :(    Big hugs to you sweety.




Thanks, Angie!  This has been so hard on the cuz and her family.  I so remember that day that I went to pick up my daughter from work and she told me what had happened.  The cuz had a picture of Natalee in her store and that was the first time I had seen her.  That was a very emotional summer for me and my child, but nothing like for the family.  I was so proud of my daughter as I watched her cry for a girl she had never met and try to comfort the cuz as the days went by with no word.  It just makes me furious when I see the things people say when they don't have a clue.  I try to remember that people will someday get what they deserve and that God has his hand in it and will have the last word.


 Casa,,
  It will happen.. Have Faith!  I am glad you are there for  THE CUZ and your daughter. Love yah both.. and the cuz knows we are all here for her as well. I may be ornery as all heck.. but I do pray every day. Keeping you all in my prayers Casa!   HUGS!


I am grateful everyday for people like you and the other Monkeys who support the Cuz and the family.  I do think that the cuz has taken strength from the good people here.  Thanks to you and all you do as well as the others here.  You are not ornery!  You are a sweetheart (but I wont tell anyone if you don't want me to  haha)  we love you too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 03, 2007, 01:06:25 AM
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:06:33 AM
Hello all you monkeys who are up late!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:06:45 AM
PAUL--ASS Van der sloot!!!

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/fdfdfd.png)

Hmmmmm

So what are Paulus' Internet Attorneys doing...

trying to intimidate everybody now? Which Cracker Jack Peanuts

promotional box was it that these franke-dill-weeds sent away for

their free legal licenses? How many 'box tops' did it set them back?

JR & Victor handle "THE ALL IMPORTANT STUFF" (big air quotes) :roll:


PAULUS, I saw your bio-rhythm today! Your PUTZ line was
at an ALL TIME HIGH. (9.0)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:07:11 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:


Can you believe the RANT she is on?  OMG  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:09:15 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:
It wasn't me, although I am sure that a monkey will be blamed for this now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 01:10:42 AM
LMAO The CUZ knows I am ornery.. ask her!   :wink:
 I might not have alot of time anymore to post or search .. like I have in the past  :( Not a day goes by.. even if I cant read.. that the family isnt in my thoughts and prayers.)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:11:10 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:
It wasn't me, although I am sure that a monkey will be blamed for this now.

Well Glenda is right about one thing, nobody is invisible on the internet.  If it's true that someone sent her a threat, it can be traced.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 01:12:04 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 01:14:25 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hello all you monkeys who are up late!  :)


 Hey you   :lol:
 My arse SHOULD be in bed.. but.. well.. Not there yet!  lol  I'll suffer tomorrow I suppose.   :evil:   Work blows!  lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 03, 2007, 01:15:02 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:


Can you believe the RANT she is on?  OMG  :lol:

I know it, she is on a roll.....Stay tuned to see what happens.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:15:15 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:


Can you believe the RANT she is on?  OMG  :lol:
Who, I went and looked and all I did see was Julia going on and on about how the Twittys are known liars and they blew the case...what a crock of sheeeet, that leatherfaced bag is!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:16:42 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:
It wasn't me, although I am sure that a monkey will be blamed for this now.

Well Glenda is right about one thing, nobody is invisible on the internet.  If it's true that someone sent her a threat, it can be traced.
Diva is the one that was argueing with her....hmmmmmm.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:17:52 AM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hello all you monkeys who are up late!  :)


 Hey you   :lol:
 My arse SHOULD be in bed.. but.. well.. Not there yet!  lol  I'll suffer tomorrow I suppose.   :evil:   Work blows!  lol
Hey Angie!! , like you said work is over rated! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 03, 2007, 01:18:49 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:


Can you believe the RANT she is on?  OMG  :lol:
Who, I went and looked and all I did see was Julia going on and on about how the Twittys are known liars and they blew the case...what a crock of sheeeet, that leatherfaced bag is!

Yes, thats all part of it.  But she got threatening emails too she says.  Full moon must be around, because they are all attacking each other on those blogs.  Well, I guess I should hit the sack.  Can someone aswer one question for me?  What is "HE"?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:20:00 AM
As much as I cannot stand the woman, that isn't right for anyone to do. I hope no-one really threatened for her to be brutally murdered, geesh!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:21:29 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:


Can you believe the RANT she is on?  OMG  :lol:
Who, I went and looked and all I did see was Julia going on and on about how the Twittys are known liars and they blew the case...what a crock of sheeeet, that leatherfaced bag is!

Yes, thats all part of it.  But she got threatening emails too she says.  Full moon must be around, because they are all attacking each other on those blogs.  Well, I guess I should hit the sack.  Can someone aswer one question for me?  What is "HE"?
Take care and feel better soon too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 03, 2007, 01:22:22 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
As much as I cannot stand the woman, that isn't right for anyone to do. I hope no-one really threatened for her to be brutally murdered, geesh!

I hear you Elaine, that is quite a sick thing to do.  If she had any brains she would turn it over to the ALE,.....ummmmm or someone who can find the sender.  We know ALE can't find them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:23:45 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:
It wasn't me, although I am sure that a monkey will be blamed for this now.

Well Glenda is right about one thing, nobody is invisible on the internet.  If it's true that someone sent her a threat, it can be traced.
Diva is the one that was argueing with her....hmmmmmm.



Well, I don't think Monkeys understand enough about what is going on to send threats!  I wouldn't know whether to send it to Julia or to Sandra K!

I remember one time before she claimed to have received hate email and posted it and it had ATA in the address.  OOPS on her, haha.  Then she accuses others of saying she works for them?

This is infighting and I think one of the RUFOBS would be far more likely but watch them blame Monkeys anyway.  They always do!  

 :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:24:23 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:
It wasn't me, although I am sure that a monkey will be blamed for this now.

Well Glenda is right about one thing, nobody is invisible on the internet.  If it's true that someone sent her a threat, it can be traced.
Diva is the one that was argueing with her....hmmmmmm.

I don't see that?  Are you in the HE area?  I'm reading a thread in the main forum area and Diva isn't there.  She did have a battle with Diva yesterday I think that was moved to the HE area.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:25:47 AM
Hotshot

HE = Heated Exchange at Refugees


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:26:14 AM
Hiya Elaine!


Hope all is well in your world.

http://tinyurl.com/a8dol

 :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:27:10 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:
It wasn't me, although I am sure that a monkey will be blamed for this now.

Well Glenda is right about one thing, nobody is invisible on the internet.  If it's true that someone sent her a threat, it can be traced.
Diva is the one that was argueing with her....hmmmmmm.

I don't see that?  Are you in the HE area?  I'm reading a thread in the main forum area and Diva isn't there.  She did have a battle with Diva yesterday I think that was moved to the HE area.
No I am not a member, I am talking about yesterday when Diva told her to get over herself, that this is the interfu**ing net...bla bla......then Glenda said "If I was gonna be pety, I would talk abot your double Ds and Aluminum house"  I saw that yesterday


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:28:05 AM
Elaine -  :lol:  Yesterday between Glenda and Diva was pretty funny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 03, 2007, 01:28:21 AM
Quote
Well, I don't think Monkeys understand enough about what is going on to send threats!  I wouldn't know whether to send it to Julia or to Sandra K!

I remember one time before she claimed to have received hate email and posted it and it had ATA in the address.  OOPS on her, haha.  Then she accuses others of saying she works for them?

This is infighting and I think one of the RUFOBS would be far more likely but watch them blame Monkeys anyway.  They always do!  


 Oh we will be blamed I am sure, and I love the "which one to send it to"... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:29:01 AM
She probably sent it to herself because there are back tracers free on the internet that will trace back an IP.  She would have already done that!   :roll: I think she sends herself stuff to get attention.  

Now that we don't have to look at her ugly face on TV any more, I think most monkeys have just about forgotten her.  She misses her fifteen minutes of fame and is trying to get it back.

There are sick people out there but lots of us have also been threatened, some by phone and many by email.

You just put on your big girl panties and deal with it!

 :roll: Geeze, she surely isn't the first to receive threats and hate mail and I wouldn't be surprised if she hasn't sent a bit as well.

Mine came from Florida, BTW.
Trac style cell phone reportedly stolen.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:29:53 AM
Quote from: "Anna"

Well, I don't think Monkeys understand enough about what is going on to send threats!  I wouldn't know whether to send it to Julia or to Sandra K!

I remember one time before she claimed to have received hate email and posted it and it had  on her, haha.  Then she accuses others of saying she works for them?

This is infighting and I think one of the RUFOBS would be far more likely but watch them blame Monkeys anyway.  They always do!  

 :roll:
LOL about your ( ATA in the address.  OOPS ) :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Glenda has been sent a threat??  Awwwwww, so sad
AND, who ever sent Julia an e-mail this morning with the details of how she is going to be brutally executed along with the van der Sloots and Kalpoes on Wednesday of this week, I hope you sent that from a prison computer, if not, your comfort of life is heading for change. Nobody is invisible on the internet.

Carried over from RU :lol:
It wasn't me, although I am sure that a monkey will be blamed for this now.

Well Glenda is right about one thing, nobody is invisible on the internet.  If it's true that someone sent her a threat, it can be traced.
Diva is the one that was argueing with her....hmmmmmm.

I don't see that?  Are you in the HE area?  I'm reading a thread in the main forum area and Diva isn't there.  She did have a battle with Diva yesterday I think that was moved to the HE area.
No I am not a member, I am talking about yesterday when Diva told her to get over herself, that this is the interfu**ing net...bla bla......then Glenda said "If I was gonna be pety, I would talk abot your double Ds and Aluminum house"  I saw that yesterday


 Get out?   ROFL

Double D IMO are boobies.. and Alunminum, house? Only thing I can think of is a trailer?   I dunno?  IMO only?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Hotshot on April 03, 2007, 01:31:17 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Hotshot

HE = Heated Exchange at Refugees

Thanks so much Klaas.

OK, really I am outa here, got to get better.  and Thanks Elaine...Night All


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:31:54 AM
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/xnestclinecc.png)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:32:28 AM
nite nite hotshot!

 :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:32:47 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Hiya Elaine!


Hope all is well in your world.

http://tinyurl.com/a8dol

 :)
Hi Carpe, all is great here! OMGosh, I thought that was "the rat" in that picture aT first....he sure has a lot of twins LOL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:33:06 AM
Who is mad at Joran and why?  I totally missed that part.  Are they mad because he gave them the excerpt in English and now pretends he didn't?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 01:33:34 AM
Feel better Kath.. I am outta here as well..  
HUGS to NEMO..   <see that Lalas?   :wink: >

  Good night everyone..  Sweet Dreams.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:33:56 AM
Double D IMO are boobies.


That's the first thing that comes too my mind!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:34:26 AM
>> TO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:34:54 AM
Bye Angie!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 01:36:30 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Bye Angie!


  Night Carpe and all!!   :)
 busy day for me tomorrow..  :evil:

 Sweet dreams..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:36:37 AM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 Get out?   ROFL

Double D IMO are boobies.. and Alunminum, house? Only thing I can think of is a trailer?   I dunno?  IMO only?
Exactly ! They were getting downright nasty yesterday w/one another. Klaas said that they moved that to the Heated exchange, and since you have to be special to get into that thread, I cant see it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:37:52 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Who is mad at Joran and why?  I totally missed that part.  Are they mad because he gave them the excerpt in English and now pretends he didn't?

I'm not sure.  There's alot going on in the HE area that I can't see.  I don't know who is mad at who.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:38:16 AM
If the Sloots didn't want that posted, why did SK post it?  I thought she was their best friend.  So JR thinks Sandra K has done something illegal in posting and yet says she apologized and he is fine with her?

None of this makes any sense.  Typical RUFOB nonsense I think, buncha DRAMA QUEENS trying to make news and focus it on themselves.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:38:17 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Who is mad at Joran and why?  I totally missed that part.  Are they mad because he gave them the excerpt in English and now pretends he didn't?
I missed the being mad at Joran too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:39:27 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 Get out?   ROFL

Double D IMO are boobies.. and Alunminum, house? Only thing I can think of is a trailer?   I dunno?  IMO only?
Exactly ! They were getting downright nasty yesterday w/one another. Klaas said that they moved that to the Heated exchange, and since you have to be special to get into that thread, I cant see it.



She said FAKE D's and aluminum house.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:40:25 AM
Anna said:

She probably sent it to herself because there are back tracers free on the internet that will trace back an IP.  She would have already done that!   :roll: I think she sends herself stuff to get attention.  




Kinda like Munchausen's Syndrome by Internet Proxy


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:41:17 AM
Just posted by Wildcat at RU in response to Glenda's rant about the lying Twittys (Glenda's words, not mine):

wildcat Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:29 am

Hey, Julia, I'd like to see that proof you have that Natalee was partying in drug houses after she was reported missing. If it only took the ALE 5 minutes to find this out why couldn't they find her and tell her parents where she was? You are one of the biggest liars here. If partying in the drug houses isn't illegal then what is? I thought drugs were illegal in Aruba as in other places. But wait, I thought there were no drugs/ crime in Aruba. God forbid that there would be another girl that looked like Natalee and sent the ALE into confusion. Sounds to me like it didn't take much to confuse them! You are pathetic and you are even worse now that the sick people here have started to turn on each other.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:42:48 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Since the Darkside is angry at Joran now, I think it's time for me to hug Nemo and get to bed.  Night all.

BTW Congrats to Florida for winning the National Championship in Basketball tonight.  Good Job!



And carpe said Joran had done something to Julia so this is where I got the idea that they are mad at Joran now.  Maybe not?

Without being able to read in their secret threads, I just can't follow it.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:43:07 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 Get out?   ROFL

Double D IMO are boobies.. and Alunminum, house? Only thing I can think of is a trailer?   I dunno?  IMO only?
Exactly ! They were getting downright nasty yesterday w/one another. Klaas said that they moved that to the Heated exchange, and since you have to be special to get into that thread, I cant see it.



She said FAKE D's and aluminum house.   :lol:
ooops she did say fake..LMAO!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:44:33 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Since the Darkside is angry at Joran now, I think it's time for me to hug Nemo and get to bed.  Night all.

BTW Congrats to Florida for winning the National Championship in Basketball tonight.  Good Job!



And carpe said Joran had done something to Julia so this is where I got the idea that they are mad at Joran now.  Maybe not?

Without being able to read in their secret threads, I just can't follow it.

.



That was only satire!

He lied to Julia, but I thought everybody KNEW THAT.

It is in his book.
:wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:45:17 AM
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/yociexp115.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:46:28 AM
Klass didja

see this one yet???


(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/capt.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:46:40 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Anna said:

She probably sent it to herself because there are back tracers free on the internet that will trace back an IP.  She would have already done that!   :roll: I think she sends herself stuff to get attention.  




Kinda like Munchausen's Syndrome by Internet Proxy
ROFLMAO!! That is the funniest thing YET!           :smt043  :smt044


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:46:52 AM
:lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:48:29 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Just posted by Wildcat at RU in response to Glenda's rant about the lying Twittys (Glenda's words, not mine):

wildcat Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:29 am

Hey, Julia, I'd like to see that proof you have that Natalee was partying in drug houses after she was reported missing. If it only took the ALE 5 minutes to find this out why couldn't they find her and tell her parents where she was? You are one of the biggest liars here. If partying in the drug houses isn't illegal then what is? I thought drugs were illegal in Aruba as in other places. But wait, I thought there were no drugs/ crime in Aruba. God forbid that there would be another girl that looked like Natalee and sent the ALE into confusion. Sounds to me like it didn't take much to confuse them! You are pathetic and you are even worse now that the sick people here have started to turn on each other.
I think JR is gonna need a stiff drink soon!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:48:47 AM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:48:54 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Just posted by Wildcat at RU in response to Glenda's rant about the lying Twittys (Glenda's words, not mine):

wildcat Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:29 am

Hey, Julia, I'd like to see that proof you have that Natalee was partying in drug houses after she was reported missing. If it only took the ALE 5 minutes to find this out why couldn't they find her and tell her parents where she was? You are one of the biggest liars here. If partying in the drug houses isn't illegal then what is? I thought drugs were illegal in Aruba as in other places. But wait, I thought there were no drugs/ crime in Aruba. God forbid that there would be another girl that looked like Natalee and sent the ALE into confusion. Sounds to me like it didn't take much to confuse them! You are pathetic and you are even worse now that the sick people here have started to turn on each other.
I think JR is gonna need a stiff drink soon!  :lol:


Sounds like she's already had a few  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:49:57 AM
Ladies,

It has been a pleasure, I think I am out for the night.


Good night all!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:49:58 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/yociexp115.gif)


I love that little monkey!  Are you laughing at me, carpe?  Lala's and I take everything literally, you know.   8)

They are just

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/th42101yuu3xr3tvk.gif)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/thimages.jpg)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/th1775a.png)

Remember, I speak Icon, too, lol!!   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:51:08 AM
hee heee

no I was laughing at the fact that Julia Renhoe believes

just about anything Joran says. It is comical!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:52:07 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Anna said:

She probably sent it to herself because there are back tracers free on the internet that will trace back an IP.  She would have already done that!   :roll: I think she sends herself stuff to get attention.  




Kinda like Munchausen's Syndrome by Internet Proxy
ROFLMAO!! That is the funniest thing YET!           :smt043  :smt044



EXACTLY!!  She likes to be the victim of something, anything, everything!!

 :lol:  8)  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:53:26 AM
Nite Carpe


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 01:53:31 AM
ALE's favorite corn flakes

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/25zjuh0_th.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 01:53:44 AM
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/TATTOO1.png)


 8)


>>>> 'NIGHT :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:54:34 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Ladies,

It has been a pleasure, I think I am out for the night.


Good night all!!!!
Goodnight Carpe!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:56:17 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Just posted by Wildcat at RU in response to Glenda's rant about the lying Twittys (Glenda's words, not mine):

wildcat Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:29 am

Hey, Julia, I'd like to see that proof you have that Natalee was partying in drug houses after she was reported missing. If it only took the ALE 5 minutes to find this out why couldn't they find her and tell her parents where she was? You are one of the biggest liars here. If partying in the drug houses isn't illegal then what is? I thought drugs were illegal in Aruba as in other places. But wait, I thought there were no drugs/ crime in Aruba. God forbid that there would be another girl that looked like Natalee and sent the ALE into confusion. Sounds to me like it didn't take much to confuse them! You are pathetic and you are even worse now that the sick people here have started to turn on each other.
I think JR is gonna need a stiff drink soon!  :lol:


Sounds like she's already had a few  :wink:
Yes you are right! That leather-look skin of hers probably is a combo of sun exposure and booze! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 01:57:20 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
ALE's favorite corn flakes

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/25zjuh0_th.jpg)
:lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 02:02:14 AM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Insults/21jsrkp_th.gif)

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Insults/th24babyhuilt.gif)

Guess I will call it a day and head for the monkey bunkey!

Advice for crybabies

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Goodnight, All!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:03:42 AM
Nite Anna


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 02:05:07 AM
Goodnight Anna  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: igsigs on April 03, 2007, 02:15:23 AM
RENFRO = PATHETIC

Astute observation by Wildcat.

Totally predictable breakdown by Glenda/Renfro after a weeks worth of pounding and total loss of credibility at RU.

Maybe her *sister* SandraK can come to the rescue? Oh, i forgot, she is on a vacation of sorts. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:20:06 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
RENFRO = PATHETIC

Astute observation by Wildcat.

Totally predictable breakdown by Glenda/Renfro after a weeks worth of pounding and total loss of credibility at RU.

Maybe her *sister* SandraK can come to the rescue? Oh, i forgot, she is on a vacation of sorts. :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:

Can you believe that rant Glenda went on.  I saved it but I'm hesitant to post her BS here.  She seems a bit upset  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:21:27 AM
GOODNIGHT ALL!  


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on April 03, 2007, 03:48:14 AM
My new fotolog account, look at my friend LMAO, Oh and I left a message for him, to come and see my new account and picture. Look I got a comment already from someone, who said weird picture, but nice OMyGosh LOL, enjoy monkeys!!! http://www.fotolog.com/elainehere/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 06:24:27 AM
Quote from: "Cat"
Robots,you are right and u still skeeerrrr me.Carpe,do you really feel she was shot?Bt girl,I hope your BT is well from the food.I was talking a missonary today and she was telling the old opium routes were being used and the opiate products were shipped out guess where in Europe.CAt



Cat,

I absolutely believe what some people have dubbed to be the "Madonna"

-- The FORM in the Marriott Basin, IS NATALEE. Recorded

on ARUBAY 17, June 10th, 2005.

Very well could have been recorded whilst everybody and their
family was sent on a wild goose chase (on purpose) to the California
Lighthouse.

Again, I personally believe it is Natalee we are looking at here. Sad to say. :cry:

The eyes really, really have me believing it is she. Of course, I absolutely

could be wrong! I wouldn't waste a stitch of anyone's time though, if I

did not completely believe in what it is I see.

...which leads to --- if that was Natalee, she was shot right in the center of the forehead. That is what I believe this body I am seeing
shows.


One, possibly even two shots to the head.

Here are some graphics I think bear that out...
followed by a link to the slide show.



Thanks.
>>>

If it is her, I pray there is away we could call in the exact
right forensic imaging specialists to view, measure and compare
features and characteristics.

Her family needs ANSWERS.

---
PICS:


http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/?action=view&current=HHHH5465.png


http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/?action=view&current=sdfsssD.png


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http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/?action=view&current=DSDDFSF.png








-----

SLIDE SHOW OF ALL 500

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/?action=view&slideshow=true&interval=8


-j4n


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Leslie on April 03, 2007, 07:18:27 AM
Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: justinsmama on April 03, 2007, 07:43:50 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
RENFRO = PATHETIC

Astute observation by Wildcat.

Totally predictable breakdown by Glenda/Renfro after a weeks worth of pounding and total loss of credibility at RU.

Maybe her *sister* SandraK can come to the rescue? Oh, i forgot, she is on a vacation of sorts. :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:

Can you believe that rant Glenda went on.  I saved it but I'm hesitant to post her BS here.  She seems a bit upset  :lol:


Will ya email it to me, klaas, pretty please!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on April 03, 2007, 08:33:33 AM
Hi Monkeys.

Had some internet problems today - someone on the mainland must have switched Tasmania off. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Catching up with the reading and see the hate sites have their cauldrons bubbling.  If Glenda and Co. are banned maybe they could apply for jobs as test pilots in a broom factory?  :evil:  :evil:

Klaas - I have sent you an email overnight.  :wink:

Hotshot - glad you are feeling a little better.  That really sounds a nasty flu - do take care and try not to overdo things before you are well enough.  Maybe you picked up an Aruban bug in Boston?

Nearly my bedtime so will catch all you chirpy monkeys tomorrow.  Be good.
I see Leslie has already delivered the papers.   Come rain, hail or snow the papers still get through. 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: msmarple on April 03, 2007, 09:02:05 AM
Morning Monkeys. Don't have anything to contribute but wanted to say Hello.

For some reason, Amigo.com has not changed since last Saturday ... odd.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Peaches on April 03, 2007, 09:18:42 AM
Good morning.

No shortage of actual work on my desk today.

Working and lurking, that's me!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 09:32:56 AM
Morning all

Medley just posted on FOB Joran's book will be on the shelves April 25th.
Still no news of who wanted their name removed escept I read in HE the other night this poster said it was in a paper and the initial was W.They did not post proof of that tho.My feelings are that is Guido,but not sure.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Morning all

Medley just posted on FOB Joran's book will be on the shelves April 25th.
Still no news of who wanted their name removed escept I read in HE the other night this poster said it was in a paper and the initial was W.They did not post proof of that tho.My feelings are that is Guido,but not sure.


who in the world would buy a book from perosn who is a LIE FACTORY

TOTAL sales expected to be under a dozen
 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 09:53:43 AM
They should talk up greatly what an arrogant murdering raping psycho
he is...

 for releasing his 'boek'  before he is actually released (if that  happens) as prime suspect for Natalee's murder.

Maybe his run down parental unit helped him think that one through.


What an arrogant couple of idiots, huh? :?:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 09:56:26 AM
JORAN KILLS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Morning all

Medley just posted on FOB Joran's book will be on the shelves April 25th.
Still no news of who wanted their name removed escept I read in HE the other night this poster said it was in a paper and the initial was W.They did not post proof of that tho.My feelings are that is Guido,but not sure.


who in the world would buy a book from perosn who is a LIE FACTORY

TOTAL sales expected to be under a dozen
 8)


LOL...I wouldn't but his book for sure,but there will be some who will just to see how many more lies he has told. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: Kimmy53 on April 03, 2007, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Morning all

Medley just posted on FOB Joran's book will be on the shelves April 25th.
Still no news of who wanted their name removed escept I read in HE the other night this poster said it was in a paper and the initial was W.They did not post proof of that tho.My feelings are that is Guido,but not sure.


who in the world would buy a book from perosn who is a LIE FACTORY

TOTAL sales expected to be under a dozen
 8)


LOL...I wouldn't but his book for sure,but there will be some who will just to see how many more lies he has told. :wink:


Yeah, true - Joran has NO idea how many lies he has told.  He can't keep them straight ya know.  And there are those who gives him a pass on those lies???


BTW - good morning monkeys... working and lurking as usual.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 10:18:47 AM
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Morning all

Medley just posted on FOB Joran's book will be on the shelves April 25th.
Still no news of who wanted their name removed escept I read in HE the other night this poster said it was in a paper and the initial was W.They did not post proof of that tho.My feelings are that is Guido,but not sure.


who in the world would buy a book from perosn who is a LIE FACTORY

TOTAL sales expected to be under a dozen
 8)

And to think the other Rapist Murderer Paulus' is going to write a book.  I wonder what the title will be.

Book titles:

- Psycho
- To kill a tourist
- My son the murderer
- Never let them see you sweat :lol:
- The Godfather Aruban style
- It's a bad bad bad world
- Goodfellas Starring:
        * Rudy Croes as Robert De Niro
        * Dennis Jacobs as Joe Peschi
        * Paulus Van der Sloot as Ray Liotta
        * Anita Van der Sloota as Lorraine Bracco
- The Chump


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 10:32:57 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Morning all

Medley just posted on FOB Joran's book will be on the shelves April 25th.
Still no news of who wanted their name removed escept I read in HE the other night this poster said it was in a paper and the initial was W.They did not post proof of that tho.My feelings are that is Guido,but not sure.


who in the world would buy a book from perosn who is a LIE FACTORY

TOTAL sales expected to be under a dozen
 8)

And to think the other Rapist Murderer Paulus' is going to write a book.  I wonder what the title will be.

Book titles:

- Psycho
- To kill a tourist
- My son the murderer
- Never let them see you sweat :lol:
- The Godfather Aruban style
- It's a bad bad bad world
- Goodfellas Starring:
        * Rudy Croes as Robert De Niro
        * Dennis Jacobs as Joe Peschi
        * Paulus Van der Sloot as Ray Liotta
        * Anita Van der Sloota as Lorraine Bracco
- The Chump



Very good!... :D I love those titles.


Kimmy-you are right there are quite a few working way too hard to try and prove Joran innocent,wonder why that is??  :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 10:34:05 AM
Pvds New Book Title:

HOW ME & MY SAD MOO COW OF A WIFE, AIDED
OUR SADISTIC RAPIST OF A SON TO MURDER
NATALEE HOLLOWAY IN ARUBA!

---

-BY: Paulus Of To The A$$


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: mishy on April 03, 2007, 10:34:29 AM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
RENFRO = PATHETIC

Astute observation by Wildcat.

Totally predictable breakdown by Glenda/Renfro after a weeks worth of pounding and total loss of credibility at RU.

Maybe her *sister* SandraK can come to the rescue? Oh, i forgot, she is on a vacation of sorts. :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:

Can you believe that rant Glenda went on.  I saved it but I'm hesitant to post her BS here.  She seems a bit upset  :lol:


Will ya email it to me, klaas, pretty please!


Klaas, I would also like to see this...morbid curiosity? ...please delete my addy after you see this...TIA!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: mishy on April 03, 2007, 10:37:43 AM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Morning all

Medley just posted on FOB Joran's book will be on the shelves April 25th.
Still no news of who wanted their name removed escept I read in HE the other night this poster said it was in a paper and the initial was W.They did not post proof of that tho.My feelings are that is Guido,but not sure.


who in the world would buy a book from perosn who is a LIE FACTORY

TOTAL sales expected to be under a dozen
 8)


LOL...I wouldn't but his book for sure,but there will be some who will just to see how many more lies he has told. :wink:


I think it should be posted on the internet so everybody can see it, if they want to, and so that nobody will have to buy it...Is that legal?

Good morning monkeys...where are my manners?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 10:38:19 AM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
RENFRO = PATHETIC

Astute observation by Wildcat.

Totally predictable breakdown by Glenda/Renfro after a weeks worth of pounding and total loss of credibility at RU.

Maybe her *sister* SandraK can come to the rescue? Oh, i forgot, she is on a vacation of sorts. :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:

Can you believe that rant Glenda went on.  I saved it but I'm hesitant to post her BS here.  She seems a bit upset  :lol:


Will ya email it to me, klaas, pretty please!


Klaas, I would also like to see this...morbid curiosity? ...please delete my addy after you see this...TIA!!


Actually the best way for you two to read it is to simply read it at Refugees.  It helps to read the responses as well.  Glenda chimes in towards the bottom of page 2.  Keep reading through the end of the thread, it's not that long:

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/about9349-0-asc-25.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 10:43:47 AM
I think parts of Joran's book will be put out on the net.I don't see why it wouldn't be legal,I have seen excerpts of Dave's book out there.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: mishy on April 03, 2007, 10:45:40 AM
OK, thanks Klaas...if it doesn't take that long LOL I guess I can stomach going there  :lol: Can you please edit out my email addy? TIA!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 10:47:24 AM
Does she always talk about herself in the third person?

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 10:52:33 AM
Quote from: "carpe noctem"
Does she always talk about herself in the third person?

 8)

Yes she does, even though anyone with half a brain already knows that Glenda = Julia.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
I think parts of Joran's book will be put out on the net.I don't see why it wouldn't be legal,I have seen excerpts of Dave's book out there.

Exactly.  That is like if I went to a moving and told you guy about it are they going to sue me.  I paid for the moving and I can discuss it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
I think parts of Joran's book will be put out on the net.I don't see why it wouldn't be legal,I have seen excerpts of Dave's book out there.

Exactly.  That is like if I went to a movie and told you guy about it are they going to sue me.  I paid for the moving and I can discuss it.

Meant to say movie :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 10:56:42 AM
Who's SM's most belligerent poster... I know they ain't talkin'
about me!  :?

LOL

....

Julia, you're a lousy two faced no good crack whore.

I wish Jug did body slam ya... however, we all know
he wouldn't do such a thing.

Even to a deadbeat,
2 bit  loser hack, rag
writer... such as yourself!


Keep swiggin' on your OLDE ENGLISH
40 OUNCE.  8)

You're OFF DA HOOK!!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 10:59:39 AM
It may be a good thing Joran's book will be out before the 2 yr. thing is up.No telling how many inconsistancies are in that book.And believe me people will know because everything Joran has said so far is on record.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 11:00:57 AM
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/dfgfdg6556.png)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 11:03:12 AM
CARPE

im busting over here  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 11:04:33 AM
ROFL

Mornin' Robots!!! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 11:10:35 AM
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/holidayinn-1.png)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 11:21:29 AM
This was just posted in HE,Klaas.Ya think there might be some incriminating evidence they're holding?I sure hope the authorities are looking into this,because  Joran could have written what happened to Natalee in those notes.Why haven't they turned this over to the police in the first place?Something doesn't smell right here.



Sultan Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:03 am    

Last comment about this. FreeOfBrain posters seem to have trouble reading.

THE REASON IT WAS NOT SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC LAST YEAR IS TO NOT CAUSE ANYMORE TROUBLE FOR THE VDS FAMILY. THAT IS THE REASON THE REST OF THE FILES ARE NOT BEING SHARED NOW, GET IT MOON CHILD?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 11:23:13 AM
AND WHO IN THE HELL CARES IF THE VAN DER SLOOTS HAVE TROUBLE?THEY HAVE CAUSED IT THEMSELVES!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 11:24:49 AM
WHAT ABOUT NATALEE AND HER FAMILY??THEY DESERVE ANSWERS!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 11:28:11 AM
PREDICTION

the VAN DER SLOOTS were being investigated for PIMPING

mother father and killer son


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 11:32:59 AM
Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
AND WHO IN THE HELL CARES IF THE VAN DER SLOOTS HAVE TROUBLE?THEY HAVE CAUSED IT THEMSELVES!!!

I agree GEL.  Who cares about the VDS.  Do you really think they cared about anyone.  They are a bunch of loser and users.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 11:33:13 AM
So a few days ago SandraK posts what looks like part of Joran's book (in English) at FOB.  There appears to be alot of damage control and accusations going around because of it.  This is what I've determined so far:

1.  Some time in 2005 or 2006 Joran downloaded a P2P file sharing program called BearShare.

2.  Some time in 2006 someone who posts at one of the "secret" sites either got or was given access to Joran's PC for the purpose of sharing a file.

3.  When Joran loaded his P2P software he messed up thus allowing all files on his PC to be viewed by the sharer.  When you install the software you can choose only music files, etc.  In Joran's case he didn't choose "only music" and his entire hard drive was viewed by anyone sharing files with him.

4.  It appears from the screen shot that was posted that Joran had possibly a rough draft of his book, plus files from BFN and other sites along with homework on his PC.

5.  The existance of this information has been known by the members of the private "secret" site and others for months.

SandraK posts part of the "notes" at FOB and now FOB wants to open a criminal investigation into something that may not be criminal at all...also something that has been evidentally known by many for months.

Yesterday, there were 50 people logged on at FOB but nobody was posting in the open forum.  I believe they were in a private area deciding on their next move.  Damage control.

Today, they are posting in the open and hinting that the "notes" that SandraK has posted could have been altered.  This may be their form of damage control?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 11:36:45 AM
LIAR #1 says to LIAR#2

"hi, im a LIAR !!  what do you do ??"


"ummmmmmmmm... jus tell lies all day for JORAN"


 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 11:38:51 AM
let me try and SPLAIN it  8)

joran allows one TRUSTED person to see his "STUFF"

this TRUSTED person says to another LIAR
"i will let you see it, but you cant let anyone else see it ok?"



REPEAT

REPEAT

REPEAT



never trust a LIAR  8)  8)  8)  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
So a few days ago SandraK posts what looks like part of Joran's book (in English) at FOB.  There appears to be alot of damage control and accusations going around because of it.  This is what I've determined so far:

1.  Some time in 2005 or 2006 Joran downloaded a P2P file sharing program called BearShare.

2.  Some time in 2006 someone who posts at one of the "secret" sites either got or was given access to Joran's PC for the purpose of sharing a file.

3.  When Joran loaded his P2P software he messed up thus allowing all files on his PC to be viewed by the sharer.  When you install the software you can choose only music files, etc.  In Joran's case he didn't choose "only music" and his entire hard drive was viewed by anyone sharing files with him.

4.  It appears from the screen shot that was posted that Joran had possibly a rough draft of his book, plus files from BFN and other sites along with homework on his PC.

5.  The existance of this information has been known by the members of the private "secret" site and others for months.

SandraK posts part of the "notes" at FOB and now FOB wants to open a criminal investigation into something that may not be criminal at all...also something that has been evidentally known by many for months.

Yesterday, there were 50 people logged on at FOB but nobody was posting in the open forum.  I believe they were in a private area deciding on their next move.  Damage control.

Today, they are posting in the open and hinting that the "notes" that SandraK has posted could have been altered.  This may be their form of damage control?


I don't believe SandraK altered anything.

They reason they are in a tizzy is because they are the original files and they probably know SandraK has access to more information.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 11:39:54 AM
Quote from: "robots"
let me try and SPLAIN it  8)

joran allows one TRUSTED person to see his "STUFF"

this TRUSTED person says to another LIAR
"i will let you see it, but you cant let anyone else see it ok?"



REPEAT

REPEAT

REPEAT



never trust a LIAR  8)  8)  8)  8)


Most likely the case  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "robots"
let me try and SPLAIN it  8)

joran allows one TRUSTED person to see his "STUFF"

this TRUSTED person says to another LIAR
"i will let you see it, but you cant let anyone else see it ok?"



REPEAT

REPEAT

REPEAT



never trust a LIAR  8)  8)  8)  8)


Most likely the case  :wink:



i hate em all  8)  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 11:42:37 AM
From the police car conversation 6/24/05:

    Joran: You said then via the telephone like, that I have the jackpot. You said now [?] through the phone , I have the fxxxing jackpot. You forget that the phone is tapped, right? [/list]
    Where they hell are these telephone records.  Joran knew the phone was tapped.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Peaches on April 03, 2007, 11:50:25 AM
    "3. When Joran loaded his P2P software he messed up thus allowing all files on his PC to be viewed by the sharer. When you install the software you can choose only music files, etc. In Joran's case he didn't choose "only music" and his entire hard drive was viewed by anyone sharing files with him. "

    Apparently, the Sporter is more delicious than smart.  Perhaps he will know better next time.

    And you know there will be a next time.   He can't help himself.  

    It worked twenty other times before.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 11:53:23 AM
    Quote from: "Peaches"
    "3. When Joran loaded his P2P software he messed up thus allowing all files on his PC to be viewed by the sharer. When you install the software you can choose only music files, etc. In Joran's case he didn't choose "only music" and his entire hard drive was viewed by anyone sharing files with him. "

    Apparently, the Sporter is more delicious than smart.  Perhaps he will know better next time.

    And you know there will be a next time.   He can't help himself.  

    It worked twenty other times before.

    I agree Peaches there will be a next time.

    He thinks he has everyone fooled but look who made a fool of him.  A person he trusted that was on the internet :lol: .  MORON.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 11:57:12 AM
    Moondshadows just posted this at FOB:

    There is no, nor ever was, a "smoking gun" in Joran's computer files.


    My question is....HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?  DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO HIS COMPUTER TOO?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 12:02:53 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Moondshadows just posted this at FOB:

    There is no, nor ever was, a "smoking gun" in Joran's computer files.


    My question is....HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?  DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO HIS COMPUTER TOO?


     :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 12:04:26 PM
    if they say there isnt

    then it means

    THERE IS



    LIARLOGIC 101  8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 12:04:32 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Moondshadows just posted this at FOB:

    There is no, nor ever was, a "smoking gun" in Joran's computer files.


    My question is....HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?  DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO HIS COMPUTER TOO?


     :lol:  :lol:


    I mean really??  Are we supposed to believe Moonshadows?  Who told her there was no "smoking gun"?  Joran, Anita, Paulus?  Give me a break!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 12:04:57 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Moondshadows just posted this at FOB:

    There is no, nor ever was, a "smoking gun" in Joran's computer files.


    My question is....HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?  DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO HIS COMPUTER TOO?



     :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

    But probably he/she does :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:09:26 PM
    Joran's a bonehead...

    He's probably even infected with a keylogger program  on his

    laptop at this very minute! :P


    When will he learn?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 12:10:20 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Joran's a bonehead...

    He's probably even infected with a keylogger program  on his

    laptop at this very minute! :P


    When will he learn?


    the KILLER probably has several of them watching his every move

    he is a SLUG


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 12:19:08 PM
    LMAO I brought this over fropm HE.

    GEL wrote:
    Well I for one would certainly like to know what is in the rest of those notes.Why is it so important NOT to cause the VDS's trouble?I could care less about their troubles,they have brought it on themselves IMO.
    I think the important thing here should be Natalee,what about her?


    Sultan wrote:
    The rest of the files have nothing to do with Natalee, So get over your wet dream.

    You may not care, but others do GreenEyeBug.

    GEL wrote:
     :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
    Sultan,I'm not having wet dreams,I get the real thing.Is wet dreams a problem of yours?
    Your name calling is not very becoming either.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:19:09 PM
    yep... all it takes is an email attachment, or a friendly link...

    you name it...


    Everyone Joran meets he has to know it's a potential set up.

    A lot of people want to see that boy "fry" as they say...


    me too!!!! :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 03, 2007, 12:19:40 PM
    I ask Carpe to be sure,read criticaly,etc.I think jvds is a sexual sadist who has escalated.Rape was never enough,and he has and will strike again.He stays out of aruba,because his moma knows,that he will get killed by a local,someday.I DO BELIEVE I HEAR THE JUSTICE TRAIN LOADING.It is coming down the track,etc.Do you have time for so many pimps,I donät know.Cat


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 12:22:11 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    LMAO I brought this over fropm HE.

    GEL wrote:
    Well I for one would certainly like to know what is in the rest of those notes.Why is it so important NOT to cause the VDS's trouble?I could care less about their troubles,they have brought it on themselves IMO.
    I think the important thing here should be Natalee,what about her?


    Sultan wrote:
    The rest of the files have nothing to do with Natalee, So get over your wet dream.

    You may not care, but others do GreenEyeBug.

    GEL wrote:
     :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
    Sultan,I'm not having wet dreams,I get the real thing.Is wet dreams a problem of yours?
    Your name calling is not very becoming either.


    You mean the BlogsForNatalee.doc has nothing to do with Natalee??  Sutan is FOS.  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:22:48 PM
    I agree that train is coming for him, Cat.

    CAT IS RIGHT! :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 12:24:17 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    I ask Carpe to be sure,read criticaly,etc.I think jvds is a sexual sadist who has escalated.Rape was never enough,and he has and will strike again.He stays out of aruba,because his moma knows,that he will get killed by a local,someday.I DO BELIEVE I HEAR THE JUSTICE TRAIN LOADING.It is coming down the track,etc.Do you have time for so many pimps,I donät know.Cat


    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/jvdsTRAIN.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:25:45 PM
    Cat, I caught your question about the 'gunshot' yesterday!

    I caught it much later and you were already gone. Sorry!

    I answered it

    back a few pages

    earlier this morning.

    short answer: yes


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:26:20 PM
    now DAT'S A TRAIN...

    a vandalized one.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:28:36 PM
    Anyone hear about Dr. Phil's new book that is coming out

    the same week as Joran's?

     8)


    (http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/eequalsmcskwarred.png)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kimmy53 on April 03, 2007, 12:31:30 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Anyone hear about Dr. Phil's new book that is coming out

    the same week as Joran's?

     8)


    (http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/eequalsmcskwarred.png)


     :lol:  :lol:

    I think I will order an advance copy.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 12:33:35 PM
    ROFLMAO-I'll take 2 copies. :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:35:24 PM
    BEST SELLER, easy!!!

     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Peaches on April 03, 2007, 12:39:40 PM
    I'll have an autographed copy please.

    "Those with nothing to hide, hide nothing."


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 12:44:15 PM
    Quote from: "Peaches"
    I'll have an autographed copy please.

    "Those with nothing to hide, hide nothing."



    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/stanleyroper.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kat_Gram on April 03, 2007, 01:13:44 PM
    Good one Carpe, made me laff.
    Read Klaasend's anaylsis of WTF is going on over at the HE room.
    It makes sense.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Peaches on April 03, 2007, 01:28:55 PM
    What amazes me is they are still talking about it. (http://bestsmileys.com/oneofakind/1.gif) If there was nothing incriminating in his precious notes, what is there to worry about?  What kinda big idiot would sit down and write out all the dirty details of his crime and then be stupid enough to leave himself open to having it stolen?

    And who in their right freaking mind is taking SandraK's word for anything?   :roll:  :roll:  :roll: I wouldn't ask that headcase if the sun was shining without looking out the window first!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:41:37 PM
    On March 15th, Victor posted this at FOB:

    Monday there will be a courtcase (Kort Geding) about the book, in that it will be decided whether the book will be allowed to be published or not.

    Publisher at this point is not sure, they hope the Kort Geding will result in them being able to publish the book, but at this moment it is unsure whether they will be allowed to publish it or not, so there is no date when and if the book will be there.

    Monday more.

    For anyone who disagree's this is not my opnion but factual.



    On March 15th, Medleyrelay posted this in response to Victor's post regarding the book:



    I almost made a seperate thread but since I am in a hurry will not.

    Ok - Real facts!!

    I just received an email  I was asked to correct the information that has been posted about this book. So far anything that might have been reported, about delays or about not publishing this book is just not true!

    Just like with everything else in this case someone has heard just a partial story and they are reading into it what is not there. Even the hearing, you just do not have all the facts!!!  Victor you obviously do not know the real reason for the hearing, I DO, and it is not going to stop the book. So I just do not know who is telling you this information.

    Even if someone got part of Joran's notes, it was so long ago, it would not matter. They were not that far along, in the book - so that is a non issue!!  And it is no ones business about any of the other stuff. And yes I guess there will be some article today in a Dutch paper that was misquoted, that does not matter either. I think there will also be a retraction tomorrow in the same Dutch paper.

    So I really wish that everyone would stop the specualtion here. Just offering some snippet that you think is going to be helpful for online readers to sit around and discuss, when there really is nothing to it IMO does noone any good.

    Again, I am posting this right after I received the current information. People do read here at FOB and they found what they were reading ridiculous.



    So, was the court hearing in the Netherlands about someone not wanting their name in the book, or did it have something to do with these leaked "notes"?  Also, if Medleyrelay was aware of leaked "notes" on March 15th, why was it such a big deal when SandraK posted them on March 28th?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:46:37 PM
    O/T - CNN.Com newsroom being evacuated.  There was a shooting or something.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Peaches on April 03, 2007, 01:49:34 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    O/T - CNN.Com newsroom being evacuated.  There was a shooting or something.


    Here in ATL?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:50:39 PM
    Quote from: "Peaches"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    O/T - CNN.Com newsroom being evacuated.  There was a shooting or something.


    Here in ATL?

    Not sure, let me see if I can find out

    ATLANTA


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 01:52:26 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "Peaches"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    O/T - CNN.Com newsroom being evacuated.  There was a shooting or something.


    Here in ATL?

    Not sure, let me see if I can find out

    ATLANTA


    I believe the suspect is now in custody.  2 people have been transferred to the hospital.  One woman was shot in the face.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Peaches on April 03, 2007, 01:53:53 PM
    Thanks, Klaas.

    It's always something downtown.

    Headin' for the ranch.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kat_Gram on April 03, 2007, 01:58:24 PM
    Just before the shooting a tthe CNN centre, they had a bit about the pet food recall. Wheat Gluten. If it's a listed ingredient, do not buy.
    Rat poison, melamine, they do not know what is going on, but the wheat gluten is the common ingredient. Guess that goes for ppl food too. ( My spin ).


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: msmarple on April 03, 2007, 02:00:29 PM
    According to AJC, the victim (female) and the suspect were shot; both being hospitalized.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:09:12 PM
    There's supposed to be a live news conference right now in LaFayette GA regarding the missing 911 operator.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 02:10:17 PM
    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/2uesffc_th-3.jpg)

    Klaasend,
    Thank you for your kind and patient explanation of the brouhaha on the RUFOB.  I understand it better if that is possible and went there and read a bit.

    What a disappointing lot!  If they are the best and brightest of the SM, I wonder why they while away their days hanging on to our every post as they do?  That is just pathetic.

    If we are such losers and tourism is up so then they need not bother with reading, quoting and monitoring our every post as they do.  I think many of them read here more that I am able to do!!

    Charlierat seems to think he should have unbridled access to posting on the FP but bet they wouldn't let one of us go there and start a thread!

    And I was disappointed to see Dilbart still bragging about his hacking abilities.  I think a hacker is the lowest of the low on the internet, at thief and a liar are a rung above one.  Most of us don't really care all that much if we are still anonymous or not after all this time, big whoop on him.

    Glenda first says Natalee was partying in crackhouses after J2K then denies it, very confusing.

    If the vd Sloots have nothing to hide, then they have nothing to fear.  I don't understand unless there are statements in the book that someone is claiming are not true, one of Joran's little buddies for example contradicting his version of events.

    I wonder if it could be the Kalpoes.  Now wouldn't that be something!  Guido has the fire power as far as attorneys are concerned but the Kalpoes might not stand for Joran trying to throw them under the bus is that is what he does in his little tacky memoirs of a killer.

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: LilPuma on April 03, 2007, 02:10:30 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Who's SM's most belligerent poster... I know they ain't talkin'
    about me!  :?

    LOL

    ....

    Julia, you're a lousy two faced no good crack whore.

    I wish Jug did body slam ya... however, we all know
    he wouldn't do such a thing.

    Even to a deadbeat,
    2 bit  loser hack, rag
    writer... such as yourself!


    Keep swiggin' on your OLDE ENGLISH
    40 OUNCE.  8)

    You're OFF DA HOOK!!! :lol:


    Sounds more like the truth than belligerence.   I agree with Robots or somemonkey who said his 'puter is probably being monitored as well as his phone.  Hope the other suspects are being watched also.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:15:42 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/2uesffc_th-3.jpg)

    Klaasend,
    Thank you for your kind and patient explanation of the brouhaha on the RUFOB.  I understand it better if that is possible and went there and read a bit.

    What a disappointing lot!  If they are the best and brightest of the SM, I wonder why they while away their days hanging on to our every post as they do?  That is just pathetic.

    If we are such losers and tourism is up so then they need not bother with reading, quoting and monitoring our every post as they do.  I think many of them read here more that I am able to do!!

    Charlierat seems to think he should have unbridled access to posting on the FP but bet they wouldn't let one of us go there and start a thread!

    And I was disappointed to see Dilbart still bragging about his hacking abilities.  I think a hacker is the lowest of the low on the internet, at thief and a liar are a rung above one.  Most of us don't really care all that much if we are still anonymous or not after all this time, big whoop on him.

    Glenda first says Natalee was partying in crackhouses after J2K then denies it, very confusing.

    If the vd Sloots have nothing to hide, then they have nothing to fear.  I don't understand unless there are statements in the book that someone is claiming are not true, one of Joran's little buddies for example contradicting his version of events.

    I wonder if it could be the Kalpoes.  Now wouldn't that be something!  Guido has the fire power as far as attorneys are concerned but the Kalpoes might not stand for Joran trying to throw them under the bus is that is what he does in his little tacky memoirs of a killer.

    .


    Anna - thanks!  I did notice Dilbart's little "jab".  If there weren't so many nuts (RU, FOB, etc) involved in this case I would care less if people knew everything about me as I have absolutely nothing to hide.  Unfortunately, this case has attracted it's fair share of nuts.

    FWIW - most of these types of cases do attract nuts.  All message boards have them.  Most cases don't last as long as this one has though.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:17:37 PM
    BREAKING NEWS:

    GEORGIA POLICE OFFICER ARRESTED IN CASE OF MISSING 911 DISPATCHER


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:19:48 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    BREAKING NEWS:

    GEORGIA POLICE OFFICER ARRESTED IN CASE OF MISSING 911 DISPATCHER


    Can I watch this somewhere on the internet? That's my area, and my office mate is the woman's neighbor. She was involved in the search over the weekend.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:25:12 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    BREAKING NEWS:

    GEORGIA POLICE OFFICER ARRESTED IN CASE OF MISSING 911 DISPATCHER


    Can I watch this somewhere on the internet? That's my area, and my office mate is the woman's neighbor. She was involved in the search over the weekend.


    I haven't found anything yet.  Only the breaking news alert at the Foxnews website and via email.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:27:33 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    BREAKING NEWS:

    GEORGIA POLICE OFFICER ARRESTED IN CASE OF MISSING 911 DISPATCHER


    Can I watch this somewhere on the internet? That's my area, and my office mate is the woman's neighbor. She was involved in the search over the weekend.


    I haven't found anything yet.  Only the breaking news alert at the Foxnews website and via email.


    The woman at work said she heard that another policeman confessed to helping the husband dump the body in a pond near the house. The authorities were supposed to drain the pond this morning, so we're wondering if her body was found there.

    Thanks, Klaas.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:31:07 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    BREAKING NEWS:

    GEORGIA POLICE OFFICER ARRESTED IN CASE OF MISSING 911 DISPATCHER


    Can I watch this somewhere on the internet? That's my area, and my office mate is the woman's neighbor. She was involved in the search over the weekend.


    I haven't found anything yet.  Only the breaking news alert at the Foxnews website and via email.


    The woman at work said she heard that another policeman confessed to helping the husband dump the body in a pond near the house. The authorities were supposed to drain the pond this morning, so we're wondering if her body was found there.

    Thanks, Klaas.


    Last I read the pond is taking longer than they expected to drain.  At 1:30pm Georgia time there was still 5 feet left to drain.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:33:55 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"

    Last I read the pond is taking longer than they expected to drain.  At 1:30pm Georgia time there was still 5 feet left to drain.


    You know, this is the same area where a couple of years ago the crematorium operator was arrested for dumping several hundred bodies in the woods. Glad I don't actually live in that community.  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 02:33:55 PM
    she is in the POND


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:34:55 PM
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,263642,00.html

    Georgia Police Announce Arrest Connected to Case of Missing 911 Operator
    Tuesday , April 03, 2007


    Walker County officials on Tuesday announced an arrest made in connection to the case of missing 911 operator Theresa Parker.

    A LaFayette police officer was arrested and charged with making false statements to police in regards to the case, Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson announced. The officer arrested is not Sam Parker, Theresa's husband, who is a sergeant on the same police force. The man arrested is the next-in-line supervisor on the same shift as Sam Parker.

    The arrest was made around 9 p.m. Monday night.

    "This is part of the missing persons case the GBI has been investigating over the past week," Wilson said.

    "We have made an arrest pertaining to this case," added Jerry Scott, assistant special-agent-in-charge at the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, which is handling the case. "The investigation is continuing, we're making progress in the case and hopefully, we'll have a resolution … in the near future."

    The arrested man is in a neighboring county jail "for his own safety and for the safety of our staff at the Walker County Sheriff's Office," Wilson added.

    (snipped)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:35:08 PM
    Quote from: "robots"
    she is in the POND


    Are you saying you heard that on the news or is that your impression? It's what I think happened too.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 02:35:27 PM
    Husband's boss arrested for making false statements to police.

     :evil:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:36:12 PM
    One of the 2 shot today at the CNN center has died.  We don't know which one died, the woman or the suspect.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:36:30 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    One of the 2 shot today at the CNN center has died.  We don't know which one died, the woman or the suspect.


     :(


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 02:37:09 PM
    What This Case Needs Is A Few Soldiers Of Fortune..........

    MILLION DOLLARS Still Out There To Collect ..........

    The Best News We Could Here Is That .........

    One By One The Perps Disappear .........

    If You Torture One Of Them ..........

    We Will Have Our Answers .............

    I Love The Smell Of Napalm In The Morning ..............

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:38:23 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,263642,00.html

    Georgia Police Announce Arrest Connected to Case of Missing 911 Operator
    Tuesday , April 03, 2007


    Walker County officials on Tuesday announced an arrest made in connection to the case of missing 911 operator Theresa Parker.

    A LaFayette police officer was arrested and charged with making false statements to police in regards to the case, Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson announced. The officer arrested is not Sam Parker, Theresa's husband, who is a sergeant on the same police force. The man arrested is the next-in-line supervisor on the same shift as Sam Parker.

    The arrest was made around 9 p.m. Monday night.

    "This is part of the missing persons case the GBI has been investigating over the past week," Wilson said.

    "We have made an arrest pertaining to this case," added Jerry Scott, assistant special-agent-in-charge at the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, which is handling the case. "The investigation is continuing, we're making progress in the case and hopefully, we'll have a resolution … in the near future."

    The arrested man is in a neighboring county jail "for his own safety and for the safety of our staff at the Walker County Sheriff's Office," Wilson added.

    (snipped)


    Word locally is that this is the guy who helped dump the body in the pond. Supposedly he said that he didn't know exactly how she died, but that he helped put the body in the pond about 4:00 am the night she was killed.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 02:41:12 PM
    Klaas,
    Do we have a name for that arrested officer?  I have emailed relatives in LaFayette and asked for any local scuttlebutt on this but no reply as yet.

    I gave instructions to go out and find out what is going on, too!   8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:42:15 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Klaas,
    Do we have a name for that arrested officer?  I have emailed relatives in LaFayette and asked for any local scuttlebutt on this but no reply as yet.

    I gave instructions to go out and find out what is going on, too!   8)


    Yay, Anna! :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 02:43:55 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "robots"
    she is in the POND


    Are you saying you heard that on the news or is that your impression? It's what I think happened too.



    hiya BT
    im saying, IM SAYING IT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 02:44:29 PM
    This is a good definition of FOB by yankee-in France at HE :D

     FOB (First on Bullshit) has a helicopter with Moonie and Bishfish that flies over the blogs scanning everything they can because like Faux news, they claim they are first and best. They're not, but they are definitely first on bullshit. I understand they have a pooperscooper team going 24/7. I heard it from the in crowd, and I understand that the benefits are terrible.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:45:25 PM
    Quote from: "robots"
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "robots"
    she is in the POND


    Are you saying you heard that on the news or is that your impression? It's what I think happened too.



    hiya BT
    im saying, IM SAYING IT


     :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:48:36 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Klaas,
    Do we have a name for that arrested officer?  I have emailed relatives in LaFayette and asked for any local scuttlebutt on this but no reply as yet.

    I gave instructions to go out and find out what is going on, too!   8)

    Not that I've seen yet


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 02:48:39 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Klaas,
    Do we have a name for that arrested officer?  I have emailed relatives in LaFayette and asked for any local scuttlebutt on this but no reply as yet.

    I gave instructions to go out and find out what is going on, too!   8)


    Yay, Anna! :D



    Well, BT, I'm afraid to say too much because I am related to her on her mother's side and her maiden name is Parker, her father's last name.  They had insurance agency there, think one of her brothers still runs it if your friend knows of them, maybe she knows if they are related to this husband cop.

    If so, maybe I shouldn't say too much just yet??   :shock: It's a common name but that's a small town, too.

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:50:03 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Klaas,
    Do we have a name for that arrested officer?  I have emailed relatives in LaFayette and asked for any local scuttlebutt on this but no reply as yet.

    I gave instructions to go out and find out what is going on, too!   8)


    Yay, Anna! :D



    Well, BT, I'm afraid to say too much because I am related to her on her mother's side and her maiden name is Parker, her father's last name.  They had insurance agency there, think one of her brothers still runs it if your friend knows of them, maybe she knows if they are related to this husband cop.

    If so, maybe I shouldn't say too much just yet??   :shock: It's a common name but that's a small town, too.

    .


    This is all we know right now, but I'll keep looking:

    The man arrested is the next-in-line supervisor on the same shift as Sam Parker.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:50:52 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    This is a good definition of FOB by yankee-in France at HE :D

     FOB (First on Bullshit) has a helicopter with Moonie and Bishfish that flies over the blogs scanning everything they can because like Faux news, they claim they are first and best. They're not, but they are definitely first on bullshit. I understand they have a pooperscooper team going 24/7. I heard it from the in crowd, and I understand that the benefits are terrible.


     :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:55:33 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"

    Well, BT, I'm afraid to say too much because I am related to her on her mother's side and her maiden name is Parker, her father's last name.  They had insurance agency there, think one of her brothers still runs it if your friend knows of them, maybe she knows if they are related to this husband cop.

    If so, maybe I shouldn't say too much just yet??   :shock: It's a common name but that's a small town, too.

    .


    My friend says all she knows about the family of the policeman is that his uncle was the minister who married her and her husband. I don't know if that helps any with identification or not. :?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 02:56:18 PM
    Anna - here is another name but I don't think it's him

    Sam Parker was expected to be back at work this week. But his boss, LaFayette Director of Public Safety Tommy Freeman, says Parker has extended his leave until sometime next week.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 02:56:55 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Anna - here is another name but I don't think it's him

    Sam Parker was expected to be back at work this week. But his boss, LaFayette Director of Public Safety Tommy Freeman, says Parker has extended his leave until sometime next week.


    my guess is he wont be working anytime soon  8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 02:58:49 PM
    RUDY CROES .....................

    A Fire Broke Out On His Face And ...............

    They Put It Out With A Pitchfork ..............

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 02:58:52 PM
    Quote from: "robots"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Anna - here is another name but I don't think it's him

    Sam Parker was expected to be back at work this week. But his boss, LaFayette Director of Public Safety Tommy Freeman, says Parker has extended his leave until sometime next week.


    my guess is he wont be working anytime soon  8)


    They said on the local news this morning that the husband is rumored to be at a local mental health facility, but the police department wouldn't confirm or deny that.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 02:59:32 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "robots"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Anna - here is another name but I don't think it's him

    Sam Parker was expected to be back at work this week. But his boss, LaFayette Director of Public Safety Tommy Freeman, says Parker has extended his leave until sometime next week.


    my guess is he wont be working anytime soon  8)


    They said on the local news this morning that the husband is rumored to be at a local mental health facility, but the police department wouldn't confirm or deny that.


    i heard that
    thanks BT  8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: mishy on April 03, 2007, 02:59:54 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    What This Case Needs Is A Few Soldiers Of Fortune..........

    MILLION DOLLARS Still Out There To Collect ..........

    The Best News We Could Here Is That .........

    One By One The Perps Disappear .........

    If You Torture One Of Them ..........

    We Will Have Our Answers .............

    I Love The Smell Of Napalm In The Morning ..............

     8)


    Hey Widgey...I've been wondering about this million dollars...I wonder if Joe Mamana going to prison has affected the reward money? Unless it's in account somewhere in holding?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 03:00:00 PM
    You are right, Klaas, lots of unstable people and mental cases collected there and that is the only reason I have ever cared if they knew who I was or not.  And that's why I resent that one trying to expose everybody.  Some of us live far too close to some of those goofballs so I do take things said like that as a personal threat of sorts.

    And if he knew so much about so many of us, he would know we are not ugly, either, LOL!!  Big clue right there that all he can do is hack and nothing more than he steals off of people's hard drives.

    I recently removed yet another keylogger, too.  Everyone needs to check constantly for those!  Norton's doesn't seem to find them, either.

    I wonder just how many are on Joran's computer and who put all of them there.  Bet his runs slower than anything!

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 03:00:54 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "robots"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Anna - here is another name but I don't think it's him

    Sam Parker was expected to be back at work this week. But his boss, LaFayette Director of Public Safety Tommy Freeman, says Parker has extended his leave until sometime next week.


    my guess is he wont be working anytime soon  8)


    They said on the local news this morning that the husband is rumored to be at a local mental health facility, but the police department wouldn't confirm or deny that.



    real detectives think people that LIE and say they got rid of a body

    might have somethign to do with the missing person


    in ARUBA..........they just eat CORNFLAKES  :evil:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kat_Gram on April 03, 2007, 03:02:02 PM
    And that came from YIF ?
    It is so funny.
    I think YIF is a journalist.
    BRB, I need to use the REAL  pooperscooper. And I can attest that the benefits suck !


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 03:04:35 PM
    After Natalee's Body Was Found The Government Decided To Keep

    This Discovery Out Of News ...........

    What Would Be Better For Aruba ..........

    A Bludgeoned Body Or NO BODY At All  ..........

    The Whole F**kin Island Should Be NUKED ..............

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: mishy on April 03, 2007, 03:05:27 PM
    Anna,

    How does one remove a keylogger? TIA!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 03:05:42 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    After Natalee's Body Was Found The Government Decided To Keep

    This Discovery Out Of News ...........

    What Would Be Better For Aruba ..........

    A Bludgeoned Body Or NO BODY At All  ..........

    The Whole F**kin Island Should Be NUKED ..............

     8)


    i really like widget  8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kat_Gram on April 03, 2007, 03:06:53 PM
    http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2003/0324/war/viewpoint.html
    yankee in France article.
    check out the author.
    On RVW a Ripley used to post who seemed to be this person.
    Not favorably to the HT's.
    I could be full of it too, but I thought that this was her.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 03:06:57 PM
    Quote from: "mishy"
    Anna,

    How does one remove a keylogger? TIA!



    with a anti-KEYLOGGER  8)  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 03:11:29 PM
    Quote from: "mishy"
    Anna,

    How does one remove a keylogger? TIA!


    It takes special software.  Right now I have XoftSpySe.  I had one I think called CyberDefender but when it expired, I tried this new one.  So far, seems to be working pretty well.  I also run Lavasoft AdAware and have SpywareBlaster installed in addition to regular firewall/anti virus, etc.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 03:11:56 PM
    Quote from: "mishy"
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    What This Case Needs Is A Few Soldiers Of Fortune..........

    MILLION DOLLARS Still Out There To Collect ..........

    The Best News We Could Here Is That .........

    One By One The Perps Disappear .........

    If You Torture One Of Them ..........

    We Will Have Our Answers .............

    I Love The Smell Of Napalm In The Morning ..............

     8)


    Hey Widgey...I've been wondering about this million dollars...I wonder if Joe Mamana going to prison has affected the reward money? Unless it's in account somewhere in holding?


    Hi Mishy ..........

    The Aruban Government KNows Exactly Where Natalees Body Is Or

    What They Did To Her Remains ..........This Cover-Up Comes From

    The Heads Of State Of Aruba .........

    I Still Cant Believe That NONE Of The EX US Military Mercenaries

    Have Not Tried To Collect The Million ..........

    Extract The F**kers From Their Paradise & Start Cutting Off Body Parts ...

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 03:14:38 PM
    Mishy and Widget - the Million was for Natalee's safe return which I don't believe is possible.  $250,000 for information.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 03:17:29 PM
    Anna - the person arrested has been on the police force more than 10 years.


    LaFayette Director of Public Safety Tommy Freeman, who serves as Sam Parker's boss, said it was "very unfortunate" that one of his officers who has been on the force for more than 10 years was arrested. Not only has he been placed on suspension while the investigation continues, but he also faces an internal department investigation, Freeman said.

    He doesn't know if they were friends outside of work. The arrested man is in a neighboring county jail "for his own safety and for the safety of our staff at the Walker County Sheriff's Office," Wilson said.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 03:18:00 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Mishy and Widget - the Million was for Natalee's safe return which I don't believe is possible.  $250,000 for information.


    $250,000 .......... I Pay That Much To Watch 2 Flys F**k ...............

    Up The Reward To 10 Million ..........

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 03:19:26 PM
    Well, I called LaFayette and got her voice mail.  I feel like such a morbid gossip!!   :?

    Have to get back to work so working and lurking. . . .

    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/thLaterGater-LMG3-1.gif)


    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Holidays/theastervc.gif)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 03:21:15 PM
    Joran The Neanderthal Boy Would Crack Under Pressure .........

    I Think Someone Should Do To Anita What They Did To Natalee ..........

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 03:22:35 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Well, I called LaFayette and got her voice mail.  I feel like such a morbid gossip!!   :?

    Have to get back to work so working and lurking. . . .

    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/thLaterGater-LMG3-1.gif)


    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Holidays/theastervc.gif)


    You Said It ........

    Not Me ..........

     :roll:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 03:26:01 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    [

    ----------snip---------------- The arrested man is in a neighboring county jail "for his own safety and for the safety of our staff at the Walker County Sheriff's Office," Wilson said.


     :shock: That doesn't bode well for his innocence at all, even just this supervisor.  When the Sheriff is afraid to house you, there has to be a pretty good reason.  I wonder if threats have been made.   :shock:   I wonder where they took him.   I'd guess Catoosa County.  Or to Rome, Georgia, the federal regional seat.

    Will take phone outside with me and if I hear anything more than is on the news, will post.  Problem is so many times people right in the middle of things like this don't seem very well informed or even interested.

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 03:27:46 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Well, I called LaFayette and got her voice mail.  I feel like such a morbid gossip!!   :?

    Have to get back to work so working and lurking. . . .

    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/thLaterGater-LMG3-1.gif)


    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Holidays/theastervc.gif)


    You Said It ........

    Not Me ..........

     :roll:


    See what those babies are shaking, Widget?

    Well, you can bite mine!

     :evil:

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 03:29:31 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Well, I called LaFayette and got her voice mail.  I feel like such a morbid gossip!!   :?

    Have to get back to work so working and lurking. . . .

    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/thLaterGater-LMG3-1.gif)


    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Holidays/theastervc.gif)


    You Said It ........

    Not Me ..........

     :roll:


    See what those babies are shaking, Widget?

    Well, you can bite mine!

     :evil:

    .



    ROFL

    got to Love Anna !!!!


    Anna ROCKS  8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 03:30:42 PM
    Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
    http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2003/0324/war/viewpoint.html
    yankee in France article.
    check out the author.
    On RVW a Ripley used to post who seemed to be this person.
    Not favorably to the HT's.
    I could be full of it too, but I thought that this was her.


    That could possibly be the same,I don't know tho.
    You are right YIF is not on the side of the H/T's.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 03:31:28 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    [

    ----------snip---------------- The arrested man is in a neighboring county jail "for his own safety and for the safety of our staff at the Walker County Sheriff's Office," Wilson said.


     :shock: That doesn't bode well for his innocence at all, even just this supervisor.  When the Sheriff is afraid to house you, there has to be a pretty good reason.  I wonder if threats have been made.   :shock:   I wonder where they took him.   I'd guess Catoosa County.  Or to Rome, Georgia, the federal regional seat.

    Will take phone outside with me and if I hear anything more than is on the news, will post.  Problem is so many times people right in the middle of things like this don't seem very well informed or even interested.

    .


    Thanks Anna


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 03:31:55 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    [

    ----------snip---------------- The arrested man is in a neighboring county jail "for his own safety and for the safety of our staff at the Walker County Sheriff's Office," Wilson said.


     :shock: That doesn't bode well for his innocence at all, even just this supervisor.  When the Sheriff is afraid to house you, there has to be a pretty good reason.  I wonder if threats have been made.   :shock:   I wonder where they took him.   I'd guess Catoosa County.  Or to Rome, Georgia, the federal regional seat.

    Will take phone outside with me and if I hear anything more than is on the news, will post.  Problem is so many times people right in the middle of things like this don't seem very well informed or even interested.

    .


    Anna,

    The local grapevine says he was taken to Whitfield Co. because people he's arrested would be in the Walker Co. jail. Don't know how much truth there is to that, though.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 03:32:01 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Well, I called LaFayette and got her voice mail.  I feel like such a morbid gossip!!   :?

    Have to get back to work so working and lurking. . . .

    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/thLaterGater-LMG3-1.gif)


    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Holidays/theastervc.gif)


    You Said It ........

    Not Me ..........

     :roll:


    See what those babies are shaking, Widget?

    Well, you can bite mine!

     :evil:

    .


    {{edit - why are you doing this Widget?}}

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 03, 2007, 03:34:02 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Well, I called LaFayette and got her voice mail.  I feel like such a morbid gossip!!   :?

    Have to get back to work so working and lurking. . . .

    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/thLaterGater-LMG3-1.gif)


    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Holidays/theastervc.gif)


    You Said It ........

    Not Me ..........

     :roll:


    See what those babies are shaking, Widget?

    Well, you can bite mine!

     :evil:

    .


    {{edit - why are you doing this Widget?}}

     8)



     :smt013  :smt013  :thumbdown:  :thumbdown:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 03:38:19 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Well, I called LaFayette and got her voice mail.  I feel like such a morbid gossip!!   :?

    Have to get back to work so working and lurking. . . .

    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Morning%20Aft%20Evening/thLaterGater-LMG3-1.gif)


    (http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Greetings/Holidays/theastervc.gif)


    You Said It ........

    Not Me ..........

     :roll:


    See what those babies are shaking, Widget?

    Well, you can bite mine!

     :evil:

    .


    {{edit - why are you doing this Widget?}}

     8)



    Whatever one I have and in whatever condition it might be.  

    So are you pretending to be young again?  Last time I heard you were claiming we were very near the same age ergo if mine is wrinkled so is yours!  There aren't many Vietnam Vets younger than I am in fact none, mathematically impossible.

    And I see you have nothing better to do than try to start yet another fight.  Pick on somebody else, I don't have time today.

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 03:44:42 PM
    Anna and BTgirl -

    Officials say the Officer Harbin 'Ben' Chaffin is being charged with making a false statement to GBI investigators. He has not been charged with her disappearance


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 03:47:53 PM
    Tornado warning in Alabama

    Just north of Talladega, AL


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 03:51:23 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Tornado warning in Alabama

    Just north of Talladega, AL


    Alerts for Talladega County
    Number of Active Alerts:  1
    There is one active alert issued by the National Weather Service in Talladega County, Alabama
    Tornado Warning - ALERT 1
     
    A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 300 PM CDT FOR NORTH CENTRAL TALLADEGA COUNTY
    Issue Time:   2:40 PM CDT Tuesday Apr 3 2007  
    Valid Until:   3:00 PM CDT Tuesday Apr 3 2007


    (http://wwc.stormdisplay.com/sas/images/state_AL.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 03:51:49 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Anna and BTgirl -

    Officials say the Officer Harbin 'Ben' Chaffin is being charged with making a false statement to GBI investigators. He has not been charged with her disappearance


    Thanks, Klaas. I hadn't see that.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: the big hammer on April 03, 2007, 03:53:09 PM
    Perjury

    Klaas writes: "Officials say the Officer Harbin 'Ben' Chaffin is being charged with making a false statement to GBI investigators."

    Whatdoyaknow.

    Making an intentionally false statement to police investigators during a criminal investigation is actually "a crime."

    See all Kalpoe PV's prior to June 10, 2005.  The intentionally false HI drop off testimony is direct, hard, indisputable evidence of perjury, conspiracy to commit perjury, obstruction of justice and contempt of court.  Felonies, all.

    How have all you monkeys been?

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 03:54:26 PM
    Quote from: "the big hammer"
    Perjury

    Klaas writes: "Officials say the Officer Harbin 'Ben' Chaffin is being charged with making a false statement to GBI investigators."

    Whatdoyaknow.

    Making an intentionally false statement to police investigators during a criminal investigation is actually "a crime."

    See all Kalpoe PV's prior to June 10, 2005.  The intentionally false HI drop off testimony is direct, hard, indisputable evidence of perjury, conspiracy to commit perjury, obstruction of justice and contempt of court.  Felonies, all.

    How have all you monkeys been?

    .


    Hammer - how have you been?

    Have you followed the leaking of Joran's book "notes" ?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 03:57:25 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Tornado warning in Alabama

    Just north of Talladega, AL


    Alerts for Talladega County
    Number of Active Alerts:  1
    There is one active alert issued by the National Weather Service in Talladega County, Alabama
    Tornado Warning - ALERT 1
     
    A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 300 PM CDT FOR NORTH CENTRAL TALLADEGA COUNTY
    Issue Time:   2:40 PM CDT Tuesday Apr 3 2007  
    Valid Until:   3:00 PM CDT Tuesday Apr 3 2007


    (http://wwc.stormdisplay.com/sas/images/state_AL.jpg)


    Storm moving towards MUMFORD (sp)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 03, 2007, 04:01:10 PM
    FIRST,I AM SHOCKED BY YOUR PICTURES,ANNA,HEHEHE.THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD DO,NOT A LADY LIKE YOU.Carpe,I saw your post,I try to double check.Yes there are many Viet Vets who could have the info,But why bother,he is talking constantly.I trust Tim Miller,in this area.You know that a tornado is in the area,when your local Meteorologist rushes out the bathroom,in a hurry.If he says Holy Pineapples,he is telling his wife to get the kids to safety.SB,Congradulations Gator Man,your team won.CAT the lurker.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 04:15:17 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "mishy"
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    What This Case Needs Is A Few Soldiers Of Fortune..........

    MILLION DOLLARS Still Out There To Collect ..........

    The Best News We Could Here Is That .........

    One By One The Perps Disappear .........

    If You Torture One Of Them ..........

    We Will Have Our Answers .............

    I Love The Smell Of Napalm In The Morning ..............

     8)


    Hey Widgey...I've been wondering about this million dollars...I wonder if Joe Mamana going to prison has affected the reward money? Unless it's in account somewhere in holding?


    Hi Mishy ..........

    The Aruban Government KNows Exactly Where Natalees Body Is Or

    What They Did To Her Remains ..........This Cover-Up Comes From

    The Heads Of State Of Aruba .........

    I Still Cant Believe That NONE Of The EX US Military Mercenaries

    Have Not Tried To Collect The Million ..........

    Extract The F**kers From Their Paradise & Start Cutting Off Body Parts ...

     8)

    I agree with you Widget.  In the words of Deepak Kalpoes enough of this BS already.  Put an end to it.  We tried for months to see if Aruba was going to do something about these murderers and they are not.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 04:17:26 PM
    Quote from: "robots"
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    After Natalee's Body Was Found The Government Decided To Keep

    This Discovery Out Of News ...........

    What Would Be Better For Aruba ..........

    A Bludgeoned Body Or NO BODY At All  ..........

    The Whole F**kin Island Should Be NUKED ..............

     8)


    i really like widget  8)

    Me too. 8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: the big hammer on April 03, 2007, 04:19:09 PM
    JVDS Book Draft

    Hi klaas -- I read through a couple of times.  More lies and noted this caused a stir over at some of the other sites.  

    The notes used to be a sticky on the NH index page -- is it still there?
    I don't see it now.

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 04:23:03 PM
    Quote from: "the big hammer"
    JVDS Book Draft

    Hi klaas -- I read through a couple of times.  More lies and noted this caused a stir over at some of the other sites.  

    The notes used to be a sticky on the NH index page -- is it still there?
    I don't see it now.

    .

    The notes I'm referring to are the ones SandraK posted at Freedom of Blog on March 28th.  They are here:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1008

    There was a screen shot posted by Victor at FOB.  The screen shot is of Joran's files.  There is a music file/album called Reggae Bangara.  The first song on their album is called Murder She Wrote.  I put together a little video.  The screen shot is the 2nd to last photo on the video  :wink:

    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/videos/th_JoranReggae.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/videos/?action=view&current=JoranReggae.flv)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 04:25:15 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Anna and BTgirl -

    Officials say the Officer Harbin 'Ben' Chaffin is being charged with making a false statement to GBI investigators. He has not been charged with her disappearance


    ARUBA NEEDS TO READ THIS.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 04:27:40 PM
    Quote from: "the big hammer"
    Perjury

    Klaas writes: "Officials say the Officer Harbin 'Ben' Chaffin is being charged with making a false statement to GBI investigators."

    Whatdoyaknow.

    Making an intentionally false statement to police investigators during a criminal investigation is actually "a crime."

    See all Kalpoe PV's prior to June 10, 2005.  The intentionally false HI drop off testimony is direct, hard, indisputable evidence of perjury, conspiracy to commit perjury, obstruction of justice and contempt of court.  Felonies, all.

    How have all you monkeys been?

    .


    Hey Hammer ...........

    Yes All Felonies...............But No One To Prosecute The Crimes ........

    If The US Government Did'nt Have Their Heads Up Their Arses .......

    WE Maybe Could Have Seen Some Progress In This Case .......

    A Travel Advisory To Aruba Would Have Stuck It In Arubas Arse ........

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 03, 2007, 05:07:18 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"

    GEL wrote:
    Well I for one would certainly like to know what is in the rest of those notes.Why is it so important NOT to cause the VDS's trouble?I could care less about their troubles,they have brought it on themselves IMO.
    I think the important thing here should be Natalee,what about her?

    Sultan wrote:
    The rest of the files have nothing to do with Natalee, So get over your wet dream.

    GEL on the case!

    Of note here is the multiple references to *disturbing images* being found in addition to Joran's book notes. So disturbing that the Joran groupies feel it wise to notify Paulus and Anita. Hard to imagine that there is anything that group would find extreme. My curiousity is up.

    Also, the many protestations that these disturbing images are not related to the NH case. Maybe, maybe not...but if not then that means that these images are disturbing all by themselves. Makes them sound more extreme.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 05:09:56 PM
    Posted by Pinellas at FOB - I'm assuming this is referring to Michael Saladin and the incident with the choller?

    MF...Scuba...all Arubans on this board. I was reading a newspaper article on line about an American citizen who's being detained because of some infraction with the law, or taking the law into his own hands so to speak, and according to the article the American consulate has been notified. This person apparently has some high level U.S. security clearance and there the possibility that the U.S. media might get involved very soon, due to the geographical location and another American citizen in trouble. Any feedback anyone?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 05:12:05 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"

    GEL wrote:
    Well I for one would certainly like to know what is in the rest of those notes.Why is it so important NOT to cause the VDS's trouble?I could care less about their troubles,they have brought it on themselves IMO.
    I think the important thing here should be Natalee,what about her?

    Sultan wrote:
    The rest of the files have nothing to do with Natalee, So get over your wet dream.

    GEL on the case!

    Of note here is the multiple references to *disturbing images* being found in addition to Joran's book notes. So disturbing that the Joran groupies feel it wise to notify Paulus and Anita. Hard to imagine that there is anything that group would find extreme. My curiousity is up.

    Also, the many protestations that these disturbing images are not related to the NH case. Maybe, maybe not...but if not then that means that these images are disturbing all by themselves. Makes them sound more extreme.


    Remember Joran's blonde friend that was with him at the HI?  When some went and looked at her Zorpia site one of the friends she had on her site had photos of animal/human sex acts?  Remember that?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 05:23:44 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"

    GEL wrote:
    Well I for one would certainly like to know what is in the rest of those notes.Why is it so important NOT to cause the VDS's trouble?I could care less about their troubles,they have brought it on themselves IMO.
    I think the important thing here should be Natalee,what about her?

    Sultan wrote:
    The rest of the files have nothing to do with Natalee, So get over your wet dream.

    GEL on the case!

    Of note here is the multiple references to *disturbing images* being found in addition to Joran's book notes. So disturbing that the Joran groupies feel it wise to notify Paulus and Anita. Hard to imagine that there is anything that group would find extreme. My curiousity is up.

    Also, the many protestations that these disturbing images are not related to the NH case. Maybe, maybe not...but if not then that means that these images are disturbing all by themselves. Makes them sound more extreme.


    Why it's so important these posters feel they have to worry about trouble for the VDS's?Amazing their feelings come before a girl that's been missing for 2 yrs.
    This person that obtained these notes should have went directly to the authorities with them.WTH...put them on a message board and let them decide??It may not be that they have anything to do with Natalee but there could be something that would bring them/us closer to the truth.This is disturbing behavior from those posters to say the  least.Why are they protecting the VDS's feelings? :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 03, 2007, 05:24:05 PM
    I think joran has killed before and will again.I don't care about the other sites,they can just go to hell.There is only one ,no two things I care about.Justice and answers...He will kill again like an egg sucking dog.I think the train is coming.take care,the Cat


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: the big hammer on April 03, 2007, 05:41:52 PM
    Book Notes & Screen Shot

    On the book notes...

    You know klaas, I noted numerous small discrepancies from the notes to the PV's.  But on an overall basis, and trying to determine what makes sense here and what does not: I was quite struck by recall and paragraphs of detail that went into the 5/30 description of the poker and card playing at the casinos.  Pocket jacks lose to Ace high flush, pocket jacks win next hand, friend is overchipped and will likely be outgunned at table, etc.  Compare this to his description of his school day: one short paragraph w/ no description of anything after "service".

    Yet goon spends 7+ hrs at school, supposedly, and there's so little to say.  Why?

    The more critical time is the casino, as I have never believed they were there, and it makes sense to me that an elaborate tale would be woven, as he's done this repeatedly before.  And once again, lying to Paulus: Leaves house under pretense of Tennis -- "but I really didn't feel like it, so I put on flip flops and gambled all nite" ...c'mon.

    On the creen shot and "Murder She Wrote" : given his past, I do believe he is a sociopath.

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 05:44:38 PM
    Quote from: "the big hammer"
    Book Notes & Screen Shot

    On the book notes...

    You know klaas, I noted numerous small discrepancies from the notes to the PV's.  But on an overall basis, and trying to determine what makes sense here and what does not: I was quite struck by recall and paragraphs of detail that went into the 5/30 description of the poker and card playing at the casinos.  Pocket jacks lose to Ace high flush, pocket jacks win next hand, friend is overchipped and will likely be outgunned at table, etc.  Compare this to his description of his school day: one short paragraph w/ no description of anything after "service".

    Yet goon spends 7+ hrs at school, supposedly, and there's so little to say.  Why?

    The more critical time is the casino, as I have never believed they were there, and it makes sense to me that an elaborate tale would be woven, as he's done this repeatedly before.  And once again, lying to Paulus: Leaves house under pretense of Tennis -- "but I really didn't feel like it, so I put on flip flops and gambled all nite" ...c'mon.

    On the creen shot and "Murder She Wrote" : given his past, I do believe he is a sociopath.

    .


    Hammer - excellent observation of his elaborate details when it comes to the casino.  Yes, I agree..a sociopath.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 05:47:31 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"

    GEL wrote:
    Well I for one would certainly like to know what is in the rest of those notes.Why is it so important NOT to cause the VDS's trouble?I could care less about their troubles,they have brought it on themselves IMO.
    I think the important thing here should be Natalee,what about her?

    Sultan wrote:
    The rest of the files have nothing to do with Natalee, So get over your wet dream.

    GEL on the case!

    Of note here is the multiple references to *disturbing images* being found in addition to Joran's book notes. So disturbing that the Joran groupies feel it wise to notify Paulus and Anita. Hard to imagine that there is anything that group would find extreme. My curiousity is up.

    Also, the many protestations that these disturbing images are not related to the NH case. Maybe, maybe not...but if not then that means that these images are disturbing all by themselves. Makes them sound more extreme.


    Remember Joran's blonde friend that was with him at the HI?  When some went and looked at her Zorpia site one of the friends she had on her site had photos of animal/human sex acts?  Remember that?

    Klaas I was on the board that morning and so was Blah and the photos were disgusting.  In fact someone must have contacted her who was monitoring this board because the photos were removed.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 05:48:31 PM
    SAN - yes, I remember when she removed that friend.  Then she removed most of her photos as well.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 03, 2007, 05:56:45 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    SAN - yes, I remember when she removed that friend.  Then she removed most of her photos as well.

    I never saw them. Can you say?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:01:16 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    SAN - yes, I remember when she removed that friend.  Then she removed most of her photos as well.

    I never saw them. Can you say?

    Igsigs - I never saw them either only the thumbnail of the friend which looked odd, but I didn't pay attention.  Others that had started looking through her friends Zorpia sites saw the photos.  It was human/animal sex stuff and now I have to get that picture out of my mind, lol  :smt078


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 06:01:54 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    SAN - yes, I remember when she removed that friend.  Then she removed most of her photos as well.

    I never saw them. Can you say?

    It involved animals :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:02:12 PM
    Igsigs - I did save the photos on her site though, the ones of her and Joran at the HI in Aruba.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:03:48 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    SAN - yes, I remember when she removed that friend.  Then she removed most of her photos as well.

    I never saw them. Can you say?

    Igsigs - I never saw them either only the thumbnail of the friend which looked odd, but I didn't pay attention.  Others that had started looking through her friends Zorpia sites saw the photos.  It was human/animal sex stuff and now I have to get that picture out of my mind, lol  :smt078


    I remember the discussion at the time was that it made Joran's comment that Deepak came with 2 dogs looked at in a different way.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 03, 2007, 06:07:56 PM
    San, Klaas...thanks.

    And no thanks.

    The term *Sporter* can be open to many different interpretations.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:10:45 PM
    Talking About DOGS ...........

    Julia Is A Real Barfa ..........

    If I Had To Have Sex With Her .............

    I Would Cut It Off .............

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: JusticeforNatalee on April 03, 2007, 06:10:50 PM
    Anna and Carpe,

    Thanks for your comic relief images.
    Some are really funny!:D

    On a more serious note:
    I e-mailed Kimberly G. and asked her to do a show along the lines of
    "Will Natalee Holloway Get Justice?"


    Kim needs to remind the American public that a critical 2-year mark is coming up and that justice has not yet been served.

    lineup@foxnews.com


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:14:48 PM
    Quote from: "JusticeforNatalee"
    Anna and Carpe,

    Thanks for your comic relief images.
    Some are really funny!:D

    On a more serious note:
    I e-mailed Kimberly G. and asked her to do a show along the lines of
    "Will Natalee Holloway Get Justice?"


    Kim needs to remind the American public that a critical 2-year mark is coming up and that justice has not yet been served.

    lineup@foxnews.com


    Great idea, we should all send Kimberly an email.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:18:52 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "JusticeforNatalee"
    Anna and Carpe,

    Thanks for your comic relief images.
    Some are really funny!:D

    On a more serious note:
    I e-mailed Kimberly G. and asked her to do a show along the lines of
    "Will Natalee Holloway Get Justice?"


    Kim needs to remind the American public that a critical 2-year mark is coming up and that justice has not yet been served.

    lineup@foxnews.com


    Great idea, we should all send Kimberly an email.


    I E Mailed ...............

    Kill Magazine .............

    Looking For ...........

    A Few Good Men ...........

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 03, 2007, 06:20:59 PM
    Did anyone save any of Dutchlady's posts?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:21:27 PM
    I Read The Executions Take Place Tomorrow ................

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 06:21:58 PM
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:22:18 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Did anyone save any of Dutchlady's posts?

    I bet Nonesuche has a bunch of them saved.  I'll ask her.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:23:21 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    I Read The Executions Take Place Tomorrow ................

     8)


    Too Bad The Were'nt On Friday ...........

    That Would Really Be .............

    GOOD FRIDAY ..............

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:23:38 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.


    SB - I don't know but it sounds like there are other files that may or may not have to do with the NH case that don't look good for Joran.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:24:18 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Did anyone save any of Dutchlady's posts?

    I bet Nonesuche has a bunch of them saved.  I'll ask her.


    I Have Some ..........

    What Do You Need ..........

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 06:26:18 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.

    I wonder if there were more photos that Joran had made of him and Natalee together.

    There was a poster on FOB who was very upset by that particular photo that Peter De Vries had.  I think it was Daniel.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:27:16 PM
    Lets Tell The Arab Terrorists They Can Get Even With The Jews .........

    Attack Aruba .............

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 03, 2007, 06:27:22 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Did anyone save any of Dutchlady's posts?

    I bet Nonesuche has a bunch of them saved.  I'll ask her.


    I Have Some ..........

    What Do You Need ..........

     8)

    I'd like to read whatever you have. Maybe create a thread for them?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:29:03 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.

    I wonder if there were more photos that Joran had made of him and Natalee together.

    There was a poster on FOB who was very upset by that particular photo that Peter De Vries had.  I think it was Daniel.


    HI San ..........

    I Am Sure The Neanderthal Boy Has Real Photos Of Him & Natalee.....

    Dated May 30th 2005 ................

     :roll:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:29:08 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.

    I wonder if there were more photos that Joran had made of him and Natalee together.

    There was a poster on FOB who was very upset by that particular photo that Peter De Vries had.  I think it was Daniel.

    Yes, it was Daniel that was trying to explain to JR and Medleyrelay that the photos DeVries showed that were photoshopped did indeed come from Joran and that the VDS would not be proud of what Joran did.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:29:36 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.

    I wonder if there were more photos that Joran had made of him and Natalee together.

    There was a poster on FOB who was very upset by that particular photo that Peter De Vries had.  I think it was Daniel.


    HI San ..........

    I Am Sure The Neanderthal Boy Has Real Photos Of Him & Natalee.....

    Dated May 30th 2005 ................

     :roll:

    I agree


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 03, 2007, 06:30:04 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.

    I wonder if there were more photos that Joran had made of him and Natalee together.

    There was a poster on FOB who was very upset by that particular photo that Peter De Vries had.  I think it was Daniel.

    Good memory San. Daniel was another one who felt Anita and Paulus should be notified.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:31:55 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Did anyone save any of Dutchlady's posts?

    I bet Nonesuche has a bunch of them saved.  I'll ask her.


    I Have Some ..........

    What Do You Need ..........

     8)

    I'd like to read whatever you have. Maybe create a thread for them?


    OK .........

    I Believe We Had A Thread About Dutchlady When She Was Asking For

    Funds To Go To Aruba .........

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:35:57 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.

    I wonder if there were more photos that Joran had made of him and Natalee together.

    There was a poster on FOB who was very upset by that particular photo that Peter De Vries had.  I think it was Daniel.

    Yes, it was Daniel that was trying to explain to JR and Medleyrelay that the photos DeVries showed that were photoshopped did indeed come from Joran and that the VDS would not be proud of what Joran did.


    I Bet VDS Does The Same .............

    He Looks Like The Java Man ..........

    Too Bad The Sloots Did'nt Make It To Hitlers Ovens .........

    SHUCKS .............

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:36:15 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.

    I wonder if there were more photos that Joran had made of him and Natalee together.

    There was a poster on FOB who was very upset by that particular photo that Peter De Vries had.  I think it was Daniel.

    Good memory San. Daniel was another one who felt Anita and Paulus should be notified.


    Here are the photoshopped pictures that were shown on the DeVries show:

    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/PhotoshopPic2.jpg)

    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/JoranPhotoshop2.jpg)

    This is the email transaction regarding the photoshopped pics:

    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/JoranPhotoshop.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 06:39:15 PM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Any indications at all what the nature of the files were that Joran accidentally left exposed to P2P hacking? Were they just those notes... or something else? Or can that be divulged?

    It sounds like they may not be INCRIMINATING (regarding Natalee) but they may be EMBASSASSING.

    Don't know as how I am surprised at all about that.

    I wonder if there were more photos that Joran had made of him and Natalee together.

    There was a poster on FOB who was very upset by that particular photo that Peter De Vries had.  I think it was Daniel.


    HI San ..........

    I Am Sure The Neanderthal Boy Has Real Photos Of Him & Natalee.....

    Dated May 30th 2005 ................

     :roll:

    Yes you are right Widget.  I wasn't thinking.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 06:39:18 PM
    Pinellas wrote:
    MF...Scuba...all Arubans on this board. I was reading a newspaper article on line about an American citizen who's being detained because of some infraction with the law, or taking the law into his own hands so to speak, and according to the article the American consulate has been notified. This person apparently has some high level U.S. security clearance and there the possibility that the U.S. media might get involved very soon, due to the geographical location and another American citizen in trouble. Any feedback anyone?


    MF wrote:
    Yes, a very known person who has American nationality but lives in Aruba has been arrested for threatening a person who damaged the car of his wife on purpose.

    The chollers say that the person who did this is not a choller but an illegal who wanted to get some money from the lady by asking her to wash her car. She denied this and when she came back after buying a product in a store nearby, found two of her tires slashed. She went back home and later on the business man M.S. came back and looked for the guy who did this damage.

    After confronting him, the guy apparently was going to attack M.S. with a knife (but this was never found) and M.W. took his gun and pointed at him. The man took off and try to hide in a gym nearby. M.S. went after him, and people who say this, called the police.

    M.W. who was armed was taken in handcuffs to the station and the "choller" was also taken in another car and not handcuffed since there was no weapon found.

    M.W. had permission to carry a weapon, but what he did can cost him at least a year in prison or a heavy fine. He did not notify the police, he did try to do justice on his own and the most serious part is that there were witnesses that saw that he threatened the person with death. A threat is very serious crime.

    He has been in detention for investigation ever since, but is now in the hospital for special care, since his health has been deteriorating due to the stress and depression.

    He has been contacted by the US consulate and FOXNews who wants to get this news in the American media and try to lobby for him to get him out. But he denies their cooperation since, he knows that the media will make bad use of this, just like the Natalee Holloway case, in which, not the truth was important, but the sensationalism and ratings. And he also respects the laws of the island and knows that he should not have reacted the way he did, but thinks that the PG is abusing his case to warn the people not to take matters in own hand.

    The people of Aruba and certainly the ALE support his release, because they know that his action could have been done by anyone who are fed up with these types of peopel who try to get some money from you. But they also know that one, you cannot take justice in your own hand and secondly that the laws also protects those who do these kind of things. So, this event is very emotional these days.

    A formal complaint has been given to the Prosecutor by the gym owner.

    M.S. studied in the States and even worked at NASA. He is now a businessman and also a very loved Carnival Musician. He just came back a couple of days before this event from the Netherlands where they celebrated the Aruba day


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:40:43 PM
    GEL - you beat me to it, lol  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:42:08 PM
    I Read On The Sperm Chewing Dogs Site .........

    They Are Expecting An Execution Tomorrow ..........

    Hopefully It Happens & They Get Them All .............

    PEACE ..........

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 03, 2007, 06:44:09 PM
    MF screwed up the initials in part of that.

    Unless the chollar worked for NASA! :lol:

    Ah, the life of a spinner.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 03, 2007, 06:44:17 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - you beat me to it, lol  :lol:



    I knew you were busy doing something else. :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:45:11 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    MF screwed up the initials in part of that.

    Unless the chollar worked for NASA! :lol:

    Ah, the life of a spinner.

    I noticed that too, lol  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 06:50:19 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Pinellas wrote:
    MF...Scuba...all Arubans on this board. I was reading a newspaper article on line about an American citizen who's being detained because of some infraction with the law, or taking the law into his own hands so to speak, and according to the article the American consulate has been notified. This person apparently has some high level U.S. security clearance and there the possibility that the U.S. media might get involved very soon, due to the geographical location and another American citizen in trouble. Any feedback anyone?


    MF wrote:
    Yes, a very known person who has American nationality but lives in Aruba has been arrested for threatening a person who damaged the car of his wife on purpose.

    {EDITED}


    M.W. had permission to carry a weapon, but what he did can cost him at least a year in prison or a heavy fine. He did not notify the police, he did try to do justice on his own and the most serious part is that there were witnesses that saw that he threatened the person with death. A threat is very serious crime.
    He has been in detention for investigation ever since, but is now in the hospital for special care, since his health has been deteriorating due to the stress and depression.



    Who are they kidding.  How about when Rudy Croes threatened to shut Beth up.  I take that as a death threat wouldn't you.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 03, 2007, 06:53:34 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Pinellas wrote:
    MF...Scuba...all Arubans on this board. I was reading a newspaper article on line about an American citizen who's being detained because of some infraction with the law, or taking the law into his own hands so to speak, and according to the article the American consulate has been notified. This person apparently has some high level U.S. security clearance and there the possibility that the U.S. media might get involved very soon, due to the geographical location and another American citizen in trouble. Any feedback anyone?


    MF wrote:
    Yes, a very known person who has American nationality but lives in Aruba has been arrested for threatening a person who damaged the car of his wife on purpose.

    {EDITED}


    M.W. had permission to carry a weapon, but what he did can cost him at least a year in prison or a heavy fine. He did not notify the police, he did try to do justice on his own and the most serious part is that there were witnesses that saw that he threatened the person with death. A threat is very serious crime.
    He has been in detention for investigation ever since, but is now in the hospital for special care, since his health has been deteriorating due to the stress and depression.



    Who are they kidding.  How about when Rudy Croes threatened to shut Beth up.  I take that as a death threat wouldn't you.


    Threatening Is Only A Misdemeanor ................

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 06:58:03 PM
    Those pics of Natalee that Dickweed had
    Photoshopped...


    They washed out Natalee's color... and gave her a cold sore
    looking thing on her lips. I believe they altered her look
    on purpose...

    >>> pisses me off

    They try to make goon-++++ the Dutch Mongaoloid look better!!! :?

    He needs a kick in the laundry basket. :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 06:59:33 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Those pics of Natalee that Dickweed had
    Photoshopped...


    They washed out Natalee's color... and gave her a cold sore
    looking thing on her lips. I believe they altered her look
    on purpose...

    >>> pisses me off

    They try to make goon-++++ the Dutch Mongaoloid look better!!! :?

    He needs a kick in the laundry basket. :shock:


    Carpe - that may be true but don't forget those are screen captures from a video, so they may have lost some of their original color.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 07:01:50 PM
    right.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 07:04:17 PM
    heya klaas,


    Look at this one I put together this morning.





    NATALEE'S  ARM AND CLUB BRACELET

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/dffddfddfd-1.png


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 07:06:26 PM
    Aruba Pictures Slideshow (always updating)

    http://tinyurl.com/2u3Xnq


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 07:06:44 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    heya klaas,


    Look at this one I put together this morning.





    NATALEE'S  ARM AND CLUB BRACELET

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/dffddfddfd-1.png

    I do see what you are seeing.  I wish I knew the size of that bag.  I have a hard time believing that the bag is large enough.  Sometimes I wish I weren't so logical  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 07:11:30 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    heya klaas,


    Look at this one I put together this morning.





    NATALEE'S  ARM AND CLUB BRACELET

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/dffddfddfd-1.png

    I do see what you are seeing.  I wish I knew the size of that bag.  I have a hard time believing that the bag is large enough.  Sometimes I wish I weren't so logical  :wink:



    Right, I'm not totally convinced the entire thing is one unit. At certain
    places it appears to be 2 separate bags... the smaller one containing
    the head and body with the Nat eyes.... then the larger bag piece
    underneath that... which is the bigger of the two.

    The basin has been measured... so the parameters of that are known.

    I believe it is not only very possible... but more on the probable side of the fence.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 07:13:03 PM
    Carpe - yes,no doubt the basin is large enough.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 07:15:05 PM
    Now there are three in the bag...

    but the other two are really just heads, that is how it appears to me.

    Some people can't get past that 3 body thing... some are only parts...

    like a morgue was utilized or raided.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 07:16:59 PM
    The purpose for that was:

    a. confusion

    b. degradation & destruction of forensics


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 07:18:59 PM
    AS ROBOTS SAYS:

    and I concur...


    "I FRIGGIN' H-A-T-E   THEM ALL.
     :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 07:52:06 PM
    It sounds like the Refugees know what those files were. Also sounds like some of them thought that VDS parents should know about them. For what good THAT would do...

    Anyone else get TOTALLY creeped out by that fake picture of Joran and Natalee together? Remember that we know Natalee from AFTER the events of that night. We have not seen them together in any REAL photos, it seems incongruous to see them that close like a couple. Even the real CC pictures which show her shoulder bending down from the stage seem kind of surreal.

    That whole night seems like a dream in some ways, yet we know it happened. We just can't fill in the details.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: JusticeforNatalee on April 03, 2007, 08:02:36 PM
    "A threat is very serious crime. " posted by MF

    So are perjury, obstruction, rape, and murder.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 08:09:21 PM
    Quote from: "JusticeforNatalee"
    "A threat is very serious crime. " posted by MF

    So are perjury, obstruction, rape, and murder.




    Hey MF,


    Go put some more glue down in a brown paper bag

    and get yourself a good couple of lusty whiffs

    you FRIGGIN' MOE - RON!

    You need yerrr coconut checked,
    yaaa un-edu-macated dirty
    rat bassss-taddd.

    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/iluvnatJ4N.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: JusticeforNatalee on April 03, 2007, 08:11:31 PM
    Does anyone know what Widget is talking about?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 08:11:31 PM
    HELLO, THIS YOU...

    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/gfgfgfgf.png)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 08:17:06 PM
    Quote from: "JusticeforNatalee"
    Does anyone know what Widget is talking about?

    Which post?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: JusticeforNatalee on April 03, 2007, 08:20:37 PM
    This one, Klaas:


    "I Read On The Sperm Chewing Dogs Site .........

    They Are Expecting An Execution Tomorrow ..........

    Hopefully It Happens & They Get Them All ............. "


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 08:20:59 PM
    Just posted on the front page of SM by Evilive:

    I have not posted in a while so here it is…….
    Paulus to Jan and others.
    There was this blonde American female tourist that tried to get Joran and Geoffrey in trouble. They say some photos of her at the HI. They thought she was hot and any easy pick so they wanted to have a little fun with her at C and C’s. She ended up slapping Geoffrey and when Joran made his advances; she tried to file a report to the police against both of them.
    Joran will point her out to me when we go to the casino. Joran is going to try and bring her over to my place before she leaves Aruba. If Joran can get her I think we should teach the little slut a lesson she won’t forget. Anita won’t be home and neither will my other boys; it will be perfect if he can get her. We’ll teach her a lesson and then bring her back to her hotel. She won’t remember a thing. You know; why not asked Freddie to come over and video tape our lesson.
    We have done this to other tourist at least twenty times before and nothing has ever gone wrong.
    But something bad happened didn’t it Paulus? Natalee was a virgin. There was blood on the mattress. Natalee was slipping in and out of consciousness when she stopped breathing. You all tried to revive her unsuccessfully. You know you could not report this to the police because jan van der Straaten was already there. You tried to find information on the internet about drug interaction. You called your buddy at the funeral home. He told you he would send someone over from the church and wait for you to bring Natalee; but you had to come up with some amnesia money.
    You placed her in your truck, went to the ATM and then went to the cemetery.
    The caretaker placed her temporarily in a crypt until everyone could figure out what to do with the body.
    Later your truck was confiscated so no evidence could be found.
    Later you found out the caretaker and Benson tried to collect Natalee’s reward money and you had both of them killed.
    You thought you had plenty of time to secure your no body you have no case.
    You got rid of Natalee’s body and clothing.
    However; you left behind Natalee’s underwear that Anita found.
    Aruba could not let it be known that a prominent judge, other officials and their sons were involved in date rape schemes. Aruba’s tourist business would go straight down the tubes.
    Keon and Guido are your weakest links, so you had to get them out of the country. Jan is a bag of nerves and he got shipped to Bonaire.
    Dompig said that he could solve the case, but it was bigger them him; especially when they threatened to include Michael in the rape and murder. Or was he, and they threatened to expose him.
    You, Jan, Steve Croes, Nelson Oduber and Dompig since he was an original spokesman for the tourist industry and others were involved in a cover up scheme. You can’t bring closure now because you don’t have a body to return.
    You all rushed to cover up but didn’t count on how much exposure Natalee would receive. Now it’s no body no tourists.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 08:22:07 PM
    Quote from: "JusticeforNatalee"
    This one, Klaas:


    "I Read On The Sperm Chewing Dogs Site ......... (Refugees  :lol: )

    They Are Expecting An Execution Tomorrow ..........

    Hopefully It Happens & They Get Them All ............. "

    Glenda has posted that she received an email threat from someone indicating that she (Julia Renfro) and the VDS would be executed tomorrow.  I think Glenda is FOS.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 08:25:24 PM
    yep,

    that is about the way it went down.


    trap the ip.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 08:30:10 PM
    The only thing I could add to that...

    Is I believe they ultimately finished her off instead of getting her

    any help...

    ...and they did it with a small caliber revolver. Two to the head I believe

    is what I see in the JUNE 10th, 2005 - ARUBAY VIDEO RECORDINGS

    OF MARRIOTT BASIN. It makes me wanna cry. :cry:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 08:38:03 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    The only thing I could add to that...

    Is I believe they ultimately finished her off instead of getting her

    any help...


    ...and they did it with a small caliber revolver. Two to the head I believe

    is what I see in the JUNE 10th, 2005 - ARUBAY VIDEO RECORDINGS

    OF MARRIOTT BASIN. It makes me wanna cry. :cry:

    I agree.  I said this many months ago that Paulus made the final decision.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Buckeye on April 03, 2007, 08:50:18 PM
    Do I have this correct??  MF declares the seriousness of threatening a choller (well not a real Aruban choller, but an illegal one....an Aruban choller would never act this way...) yet, Joran throws one off the bridge and there's not so much as a report???? hmmmmm
    Guess Joran wasn't an American...he'd still be in jail...


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 08:51:37 PM
    Quote from: "Buckeye"
    Do I have this correct??  MF declares the seriousness of threatening a choller (well not a real Aruban choller, but an illegal one....an Aruban choller would never act this way...) yet, Joran throws one off the bridge and there's not so much as a report???? hmmmmm
    Guess Joran wasn't an American...he'd still be in jail...

    They make it up as they go along  :roll:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Buckeye on April 03, 2007, 08:56:47 PM
    Carpe

    Did you ever see this??

    Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject:    

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     
    Been reading around and found this (for Carpe):

    http://tinyurl.com/3dxjz3


    GRACE: Again, this is a live shot, straight from Aruba, firefighters working around the clock, draining a pond, a fairly large pond, searching for clues in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Those bright lights have been set up to allow them to work through the night. Now, this pond is not too, far away from the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying. Here`s a shot, a map to help us understand. You see the Holiday Inn far left, the Marriott in the middle and the pond across the tracks.

    Welcome back, everybody. I`m Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us. Very quickly, to Natalee`s uncle. Joining us is Paul Reynolds. Paul, I understand that you took it upon yourself to go search the area of the of the Holiday Inn.

    REYNOLDS: Actually, I was following the Equusearch people that were doing the ground-penetrating sonar over on the beach just north of the Marriott. And one of the Equusearch personnel that I was speaking to had found something suspicious over -- under some trees adjacent to the north side of the Marriott.

    GRACE: Hold on. Hold on, Paul. This is a live shot of what he`s talking about, near the hotels. Go ahead, Paul.

    REYNOLDS: We went over there and found a suspicious-looking bag, a small bag, but, you know, had a strong odor about it. We weren`t sure what it was. We were looking around the area. We detected some strange-looking mounds close to that and some strange odors coming in that area.

    We contacted the police. They sent some detectives over there, and you know, brought a dog over there to check it out. You know, I`m not sure that we found anything, but you know, it gives us confidence in the responsiveness of the investigation, the intensity. You know, while Dave and Equusearch and all them are over at the landfill, you know, we`re still looking in other places. It`s -- you know, we`re -- it`s a multi-faceted investigation. And it`s this much awareness and intensity that gives us hope.

    Also this:

    SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Nancy, let`s see. Where do we begin? First of all, let`s talk a little bit about this important DNA ruling from the judge today, a judge throwing out DNA evidence that had been collected from two of the three named suspects in the case. In the case of, first of all, Satish Kalpoe, who has been released from jail, the judge ruled that there were not sufficient grounds to collect that DNA evidence in the first place, the saliva sample. Now, the judge said that if prosecutors come up with sufficient grounds, they are permitted to refile.

    In the case of Joran Van Der Sloot, who remains in jail behind bars, the judge ruled that there are sufficient grounds to collect a DNA sample from him. However, there are some of what the judge described as missing documents, but not specifying what kind of documents, and that prosecutors need to get those documents into the file and then they can refile their motion. But in the meantime, Nancy, the current DNA samples that were collected must be destroyed.

    GRACE: Now, that goes to Satish Kalpoe and Joran Van Der Sloot. It`s my understanding we likely would have gotten the same ruling with Deepak, the other Deepak -- Deepak Kalpoe, but his lawyer didn`t find the motion, right?
    CANDIOTTI: Apparently not.

    What did they want to compare the DNA to...unless there was evidence??


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 09:07:39 PM
    haven't seen that one in transcript form. A BIG THANKS
    for posting it Buckeye!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 09:08:37 PM
    Buckeye - I remember that like it was yesterday.  I remember thinking they have finally found her. :cry:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 03, 2007, 09:11:01 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Buckeye - I remember that like it was yesterday.  I remember thinking they have finally found her. :cry:


    I thought they might want to compare the "male" DNA found on the
    toothbrush.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: memphis on April 03, 2007, 09:12:31 PM
    Hi monkey friends!

    How is everything going? I've been gone since Christmas, so will refrain from asking many questions. I do have one, though. Wasn't DeVries going to do a follow-up show? Did he?

    I hope everyone is doing well. I've been swamped running my little business and taking care of my puppy.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 09:13:36 PM
    Quote from: "memphis"
    Hi monkey friends!

    How is everything going? I've been gone since Christmas, so will refrain from asking many questions. I do have one, though. Wasn't DeVries going to do a follow-up show? Did he?

    I hope everyone is doing well. I've been swamped running my little business and taking care of my puppy.

    No, DeVries never did a followup show.  We don't know why.

    Welcome back!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 03, 2007, 09:13:44 PM
    memphis...you have been missed.... :)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Buckeye on April 03, 2007, 09:14:09 PM
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Buckeye - I remember that like it was yesterday.  I remember thinking they have finally found her. :cry:


    I thought they might want to compare the "male" DNA found on the
    toothbrush.


    That was the rumor...but I always wonder...since they knew early on that she didn't return to the HI...


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 09:15:21 PM
    Quote from: "memphis"
    Hi monkey friends!

    How is everything going? I've been gone since Christmas, so will refrain from asking many questions. I do have one, though. Wasn't DeVries going to do a follow-up show? Did he?

    I hope everyone is doing well. I've been swamped running my little business and taking care of my puppy.


    Memphis!   :D  :D  :D

    I thought about you last night when I put this back in my signature line.  You always thought it was funny!

    Good to see you!  No, De Vries did not do a second show but we continue to hope that he will.

    The release of Joran's book was due at the end of the month and apparantly it is under some sort of court order not to be released then.  We don't know why.

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 03, 2007, 09:16:32 PM
    oops...huge weather warnings....will be unplugging for a bit.... :)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 09:17:23 PM
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    oops...huge weather warnings....will be unplugging for a bit.... :)

    Stay safe Mere!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 03, 2007, 09:17:49 PM
    watch the weather tonight,monkeys.the southeast is in for bad storms.Any movement on the case?CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: memphis on April 03, 2007, 09:18:49 PM
    awww...thanks Klaas, MeMere and Anna.

    Anna, yes I just love that sig line.   :lol:  

    Ok, I apologize. Got another question. What about the lawsuits? Have you heard anything from the family?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 09:19:51 PM
    O/T

    urgent - immediate broadcast requested
    Tornado Watch number 117
    NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
    805 PM CDT Tue Apr 3 2007

    The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a
    Tornado Watch for portions of

           northern Alabama
           northern Georgia
           far western North Carolina
           middle and eastern Tennessee

    Effective this Tuesday night and Wednesday morning from 805 PM
    until 200 am CDT.

    Tornadoes... hail to 2 inches in diameter... thunderstorm wind
    gusts to 70 mph... and dangerous lightning are possible in these
    areas.

    The Tornado Watch area is approximately along and 65 statute
    miles north and south of a line from 40 miles northwest of Muscle
    Shoals Alabama to 50 miles east southeast of Crossville
    Tennessee. For a complete depiction of the watch see the
    associated watch outline update (wous64 kwns wou7).

    Remember... a Tornado Watch means conditions are favorable for
    tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in and close to the watch
    area. Persons in these areas should be on the lookout for
    threatening weather conditions and listen for later statements
    and possible warnings.

    Other watch information... this Tornado Watch replaces Severe
    Thunderstorm Watch number 113. Watch number 113 will not be in
    effect after 805 PM CDT. Continue... ww 111... ww 112... ww 114... ww
    115... ww 116...

    Discussion... extensive qlcs now over srn KS/W TN expected to
    continue esewd. Ample deep shear now present for embedded
    supercells may strengthen slightly this evening as main mid level
    speed now over srn MO continues ewd and glances ww region.
    Increasingly moist low level wswly flow... diminishing temp-dew point
    spreads with sunset... and continuing presence of weak N-S oriented
    warm front /now near csv/ to support discrete cell development
    suggest some threat for tornadoes. One or two spin-up type
    tornadoes may also form along main sqln.

    Aviation... tornadoes and a few severe thunderstorms with hail
    surface and aloft to 2 inches. Extreme turbulence and surface
    wind gusts to 60 knots. A few cumulonimbi with maximum tops to
    500. Mean storm motion vector 28030. :shock:  :(  :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 09:24:07 PM
    Not looking good for later this evening

    (http://image.weather.com/web/radar/us_tup_closeradar_plus_usen.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: justinsmama on April 03, 2007, 09:24:08 PM
    Quote from: "memphis"
    Hi monkey friends!

    How is everything going? I've been gone since Christmas, so will refrain from asking many questions. I do have one, though. Wasn't DeVries going to do a follow-up show? Did he?

    I hope everyone is doing well. I've been swamped running my little business and taking care of my puppy.


    Memphis, you cute little monkey! I've been wondering where you were!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: justinsmama on April 03, 2007, 09:25:02 PM
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    memphis...you have been missed.... :)


    Hey! Where you been, mere?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: justinsmama on April 03, 2007, 09:26:07 PM
    Bunker down, monkeys in that area!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 09:26:51 PM
    Quote from: "justinsmama"
    Bunker down, monkeys in that area!


    That line is moving south toward Anna and me.  :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 09:27:52 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "justinsmama"
    Bunker down, monkeys in that area!


    That line is moving south toward Anna and me.  :shock:


    Yes, it is.  I'm skeered of storms that bad with 2 inch hail, etc.

     :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tibrogargan on April 03, 2007, 09:34:09 PM
    Memphis is back!!!  :wink:  :wink:
    Glad to see you Memphis.  I asked about you a couple of times but no one had heard from you.  How is your puppy?

    Klaas I remember the draining of the pond and how my heart sank.
    I also remember watching when they announced they had arrested Joran and something inside me just said "That's him.  They have got him."  Bad memories  :cry: It still affects us all - what must Beth and Dave go through every day.......

    Those tornado and bad weather reports are scary.  Hope all the monkeys stay safe.
    Still trying to get news from the Solomon Islands as to the final extent of damage.  So far 28 confirmed dead and hundreds of their houses swept away.  We already had troops there for peace-keeping so they were able to get things organised quickly but it is the many outlying islands that are the problem - no communication.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 03, 2007, 09:35:40 PM
    i am digging a hole to hide in,again.I think we are in for a real gully washer.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 09:36:15 PM
    Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
    Memphis is back!!!  :wink:  :wink:
    Glad to see you Memphis.  I asked about you a couple of times but no one had heard from you.  How is your puppy?

    Klaas I remember the draining of the pond and how my heart sank.
    I also remember watching when they announced they had arrested Joran and something inside me just said "That's him.  They have got him."  Bad memories  :cry: It still affects us all - what must Beth and Dave go through every day.......

    Those tornado and bad weather reports are scary.  Hope all the monkeys stay safe.
    Still trying to get news from the Solomon Islands as to the final extent of damage.  So far 28 confirmed dead and hundreds of their houses swept away.  We already had troops there for peace-keeping so they were able to get things organised quickly but it is the many outlying islands that are the problem - no communication.


    Tibro - there's still a ton of shaking going on in the Solomon Islands.  They just had another 6.0 aftershock about an hour ago.  I don't think they've stopped shaking.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 09:36:44 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    i am digging a hole to hide in,again.I think we are in for a real gully washer.CAT

    Stay safe Cat


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tibrogargan on April 03, 2007, 09:39:26 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    i am digging a hole to hide in,again.I think we are in for a real gully washer.CAT


    Not a good night for lurking about outside, Cat.  Stay safely indoors.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: justinsmama on April 03, 2007, 09:39:51 PM
    Good night, monkeys, and stay safe.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 03, 2007, 09:41:17 PM
    i will.i know how to hide.i always keep a basement around.the rest of the monkeys in our area should be careful,joran ab portis,cat


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 09:42:00 PM
    O/T
    Tibro,
    Wasn't it a series of quakes that causes that last HUGE tsunami?  I sure hope those STOP!

    It was the Aussies and the US that brought aid,etc for that and I am sure if asked, we will be right there to help if we can.

    Am so sorry for all that loss!   :(

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 09:42:53 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "justinsmama"
    Bunker down, monkeys in that area!


    That line is moving south toward Anna and me.  :shock:


    BTgirl and Anna y'all take cover if you need to!!!  So for the stuff is missing us. Keeping fingers crossed.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tibrogargan on April 03, 2007, 09:43:11 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
    Memphis is back!!!  :wink:  :wink:
    Glad to see you Memphis.  I asked about you a couple of times but no one had heard from you.  How is your puppy?

    Klaas I remember the draining of the pond and how my heart sank.
    I also remember watching when they announced they had arrested Joran and something inside me just said "That's him.  They have got him."  Bad memories  :cry: It still affects us all - what must Beth and Dave go through every day.......

    Those tornado and bad weather reports are scary.  Hope all the monkeys stay safe.
    Still trying to get news from the Solomon Islands as to the final extent of damage.  So far 28 confirmed dead and hundreds of their houses swept away.  We already had troops there for peace-keeping so they were able to get things organised quickly but it is the many outlying islands that are the problem - no communication.


    Tibro - there's still a ton of shaking going on in the Solomon Islands.  They just had another 6.0 aftershock about an hour ago.  I don't think they've stopped shaking.


    It has been very unstable there for a few days.  They have revised the biggest one to 8.1 on Richter scale so that is up there with the big ones.
    Estimated to be at least 6 miles deep so a lot of movement under the ocean.  

    Nite Justins..


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 09:44:25 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    i am digging a hole to hide in,again.I think we are in for a real gully washer.CAT


    Cat, you get somewhere safe also!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tibrogargan on April 03, 2007, 09:51:33 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    O/T
    Tibro,
    Wasn't it a series of quakes that causes that last HUGE tsunami?  I sure hope those STOP!

    It was the Aussies and the US that brought aid,etc for that and I am sure if asked, we will be right there to help if we can.

    Am so sorry for all that loss!   :(

    .


    Yes Anna - undersea earthquakes.  Sucks the water out and then as the plates settle again the water rushes back in to shore.  They prepared along our north-east coast by closing beaches and suspending ferry services in Sydney harbour but only a few inches higher swell.  The Solomon Islands got tsunami over 6 feet high but must have flattened out by the time it reached Aust.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 09:54:29 PM
    Quote from: "casa"
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "justinsmama"
    Bunker down, monkeys in that area!


    That line is moving south toward Anna and me.  :shock:


    BTgirl and Anna y'all take cover if you need to!!!  So for the stuff is missing us. Keeping fingers crossed.


    Hi Casa - We have a basement, but I think the spiders down there scare me almost as much as the weather.  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 10:04:40 PM
    Evening Monkeys.  Bad weather is predicted for us after midnight.  No sleep for me I have a doggie that is terrified of storms. She wakes everyone.  

    BT, I have a severe spider phobia.  No joke.

    Has the meltdown ceased yet on the other side?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 10:05:25 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "casa"
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "justinsmama"
    Bunker down, monkeys in that area!


    That line is moving south toward Anna and me.  :shock:


    BTgirl and Anna y'all take cover if you need to!!!  So for the stuff is missing us. Keeping fingers crossed.


    Hi Casa - We have a basement, but I think the spiders down there scare me almost as much as the weather.  :lol:



    uuuhhhh, I totally understand that!  But faced with a tornado girl you brave the spiders!!!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 10:08:24 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Evening Monkeys.  Bad weather is predicted for us after midnight.  No sleep for me I have a doggie that is terrified of storms. She wakes everyone.  

    BT, I have a severe spider phobia.  No joke.

    Has the meltdown ceased yet on the other side?


    Me too, Lalas! Just seeing them makes me feel queasy.  :(


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tibrogargan on April 03, 2007, 10:08:37 PM
    Hi Lala's - the witches seem to be still stirring the cauldron over there.  Hubble bubble, toil and trouble.....
    Make sure you stay safe.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 10:19:14 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Evening Monkeys.  Bad weather is predicted for us after midnight.  No sleep for me I have a doggie that is terrified of storms. She wakes everyone.  

    BT, I have a severe spider phobia.  No joke.

    Has the meltdown ceased yet on the other side?


    Me too, Lalas! Just seeing them makes me feel queasy.  :(



    The spiders or the Dark Side?  Or BOTH!!   :D

    I had not been there in ages and it was entertaining.  For example, did not know monkeys were racists until reading that from CharlieRat.  Don't have a clue on what that one is based, his projection I suspect.

    Because I am so fair/blond, I have had several people in my lifetime assume I must be a racist for some reason but was married to an Hispanic for 25 years so that one doesn't work too well.   :lol:

    And I want to know what other things were found on Joran's computer that are so interesting as well!!

    Going to have to turn everything off and batten down the hatches!  It's moving fast so the bad part will likely pass through quickly.

    All Monkeys in path of the storm, take care!

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 03, 2007, 10:21:46 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Just posted on the front page of SM by Evilive:

    I have not posted in a while so here it is…….
    Paulus to Jan and others.
    There was this blonde American female tourist that tried to get Joran and Geoffrey in trouble. They say some photos of her at the HI. They thought she was hot and any easy pick so they wanted to have a little fun with her at C and C’s. She ended up slapping Geoffrey and when Joran made his advances; she tried to file a report to the police against both of them.
    Joran will point her out to me when we go to the casino. Joran is going to try and bring her over to my place before she leaves Aruba. If Joran can get her I think we should teach the little slut a lesson she won’t forget. Anita won’t be home and neither will my other boys; it will be perfect if he can get her. We’ll teach her a lesson and then bring her back to her hotel. She won’t remember a thing. You know; why not asked Freddie to come over and video tape our lesson.
    We have done this to other tourist at least twenty times before and nothing has ever gone wrong.
    But something bad happened didn’t it Paulus? Natalee was a virgin. There was blood on the mattress. Natalee was slipping in and out of consciousness when she stopped breathing. You all tried to revive her unsuccessfully. You know you could not report this to the police because jan van der Straaten was already there. You tried to find information on the internet about drug interaction. You called your buddy at the funeral home. He told you he would send someone over from the church and wait for you to bring Natalee; but you had to come up with some amnesia money.
    You placed her in your truck, went to the ATM and then went to the cemetery.
    The caretaker placed her temporarily in a crypt until everyone could figure out what to do with the body.
    Later your truck was confiscated so no evidence could be found.
    Later you found out the caretaker and Benson tried to collect Natalee’s reward money and you had both of them killed.
    You thought you had plenty of time to secure your no body you have no case.
    You got rid of Natalee’s body and clothing.
    However; you left behind Natalee’s underwear that Anita found.
    Aruba could not let it be known that a prominent judge, other officials and their sons were involved in date rape schemes. Aruba’s tourist business would go straight down the tubes.
    Keon and Guido are your weakest links, so you had to get them out of the country. Jan is a bag of nerves and he got shipped to Bonaire.
    Dompig said that he could solve the case, but it was bigger them him; especially when they threatened to include Michael in the rape and murder. Or was he, and they threatened to expose him.
    You, Jan, Steve Croes, Nelson Oduber and Dompig since he was an original spokesman for the tourist industry and others were involved in a cover up scheme. You can’t bring closure now because you don’t have a body to return.
    You all rushed to cover up but didn’t count on how much exposure Natalee would receive. Now it’s no body no tourists.



    Before I go hide from the storm, I wanted to bring this forward for any who didn't see it.  Sounds like this person knows something!  

     :shock:  :evil:  :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 03, 2007, 10:21:52 PM
    Quote from: "justinsmama"
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    memphis...you have been missed.... :)


    Hey! Where you been, mere?


    Hi justins.....been here everyday, but have nothing to contribute....I do wish that the powers that be will see that it is in their benefit to finish this case...to talk with Beth and Dave and tell them what happened....to bring those who are responsible before the court.....and of course, there are days that I would like to "ditto" the comments of robots and san...!!

    How are you...?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tibrogargan on April 03, 2007, 10:22:42 PM
    Nite Anna - come back and let us know you and your doggies are safe as soon as you can


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 03, 2007, 10:26:43 PM
    The bad weather we had a little bit ago was scary....tornado on the ground in our county though have not heard of damage....we are rural and there is a lot of farmland and open space...big rain and winds...seems to have moved on....local stations had good coverage....


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 10:29:15 PM
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    The bad weather we had a little bit ago was scary....tornado on the ground in our county though have not heard of damage....we are rural and there is a lot of farmland and open space...big rain and winds...seems to have moved on....local stations had good coverage....

    Glad it moved on and you are safe.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 10:29:37 PM
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    The bad weather we had a little bit ago was scary....tornado on the ground in our county though have not heard of damage....we are rural and there is a lot of farmland and open space...big rain and winds...seems to have moved on....local stations had good coverage....


    Glad you are safe.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 10:31:27 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Just posted on the front page of SM by Evilive:

    I have not posted in a while so here it is…….
    Paulus to Jan and others.
    There was this blonde American female tourist that tried to get Joran and Geoffrey in trouble. They say some photos of her at the HI. They thought she was hot and any easy pick so they wanted to have a little fun with her at C and C’s. She ended up slapping Geoffrey and when Joran made his advances; she tried to file a report to the police against both of them.
    Joran will point her out to me when we go to the casino. Joran is going to try and bring her over to my place before she leaves Aruba. If Joran can get her I think we should teach the little slut a lesson she won’t forget. Anita won’t be home and neither will my other boys; it will be perfect if he can get her. We’ll teach her a lesson and then bring her back to her hotel. She won’t remember a thing. You know; why not asked Freddie to come over and video tape our lesson.
    We have done this to other tourist at least twenty times before and nothing has ever gone wrong.
    But something bad happened didn’t it Paulus? Natalee was a virgin. There was blood on the mattress. Natalee was slipping in and out of consciousness when she stopped breathing. You all tried to revive her unsuccessfully. You know you could not report this to the police because jan van der Straaten was already there. You tried to find information on the internet about drug interaction. You called your buddy at the funeral home. He told you he would send someone over from the church and wait for you to bring Natalee; but you had to come up with some amnesia money.
    You placed her in your truck, went to the ATM and then went to the cemetery.
    The caretaker placed her temporarily in a crypt until everyone could figure out what to do with the body.
    Later your truck was confiscated so no evidence could be found.
    Later you found out the caretaker and Benson tried to collect Natalee’s reward money and you had both of them killed.
    You thought you had plenty of time to secure your no body you have no case.
    You got rid of Natalee’s body and clothing.
    However; you left behind Natalee’s underwear that Anita found.
    Aruba could not let it be known that a prominent judge, other officials and their sons were involved in date rape schemes. Aruba’s tourist business would go straight down the tubes.
    Keon and Guido are your weakest links, so you had to get them out of the country. Jan is a bag of nerves and he got shipped to Bonaire.
    Dompig said that he could solve the case, but it was bigger them him; especially when they threatened to include Michael in the rape and murder. Or was he, and they threatened to expose him.
    You, Jan, Steve Croes, Nelson Oduber and Dompig since he was an original spokesman for the tourist industry and others were involved in a cover up scheme. You can’t bring closure now because you don’t have a body to return.
    You all rushed to cover up but didn’t count on how much exposure Natalee would receive. Now it’s no body no tourists.



    Before I go hide from the storm, I wanted to bring this forward for any who didn't see it.  Sounds like this person knows something!  

     :shock:  :evil:  :shock:


    OOOOOOOOHHHHH!  Shades of Shango in that post.  :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 03, 2007, 10:31:37 PM
    They're calling for nasty thunderstorms here...........

    There's lots of bad weather tonight, monkeys, check your weather and be safe!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 03, 2007, 10:33:19 PM
    Thank you ladies....had the tornado bag ready to go to the basement...!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 10:33:31 PM
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    The bad weather we had a little bit ago was scary....tornado on the ground in our county though have not heard of damage....we are rural and there is a lot of farmland and open space...big rain and winds...seems to have moved on....local stations had good coverage....


    Glad you made it through safely, MeMere!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 10:33:46 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "Anna"

    Before I go hide from the storm, I wanted to bring this forward for any who didn't see it.  Sounds like this person knows something!  

     :shock:  :evil:  :shock:

    OOOOOOOOHHHHH!  Shades of Shango in that post.  :shock:

    Go ahead I'm waiting.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: memphis on April 03, 2007, 10:34:40 PM
    We're just getting hit with the storm. Great map BT. I'll be back....


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 10:34:48 PM
    The person who made that Front Page post has some interesting points, but the initial assumption that they made about Joran and GVC and a Friday night incident is kind of shaky.

    We don't know how well the 2 guys were connected, and what the deal was that night and how it might have influenced Joran. We just don't KNOW any of that. To bring that up and claim that that was the cause of the incident on May 30th (get back at Natalee for slapping GVC/ Joran) is a very long reach IMO.

    I don't think we have proven anything about a gun either.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 03, 2007, 10:34:56 PM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    They're calling for nasty thunderstorms here...........

    There's lots of bad weather tonight, monkeys, check your weather and be safe!


    Those are the same ones CBB....nasty but pass by quickly...!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 10:35:03 PM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    They're calling for nasty thunderstorms here...........

    There's lots of bad weather tonight, monkeys, check your weather and be safe!


    Bad weather is being predicted for us later tonight.  Probably about the time I get ready to go to bed!  Then I won't be able to sleep for the weather!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 10:36:46 PM
    Now if that story they tell was from an e-mail that Joran had on his pc that was sent from PVDS to one of his buds, now, THAT would be another story.  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 10:37:37 PM
    Another skeery map  :shock:

    (http://image.weather.com/web/radar/us_radar_plus_usen.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Buckeye on April 03, 2007, 10:38:52 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    The person who made that Front Page post has some interesting points, but the initial assumption that they made about Joran and GVC and a Friday night incident is kind of shaky.

    We don't know how well the 2 guys were connected, and what the deal was that night and how it might have influenced Joran. We just don't KNOW any of that. To bring that up and claim that that was the cause of the incident on May 30th (get back at Natalee for slapping GVC/ Joran) is a very long reach IMO.

    I don't think we have proven anything about a gun either.


    I've always been hesitant of GVC because when Kawish (Joran??) was posting, he kept trying to get us to connect GVC with the shirt.  Trying too hard, in my opinion.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 10:40:38 PM
    What direction is that front moving in? Is it going SE ward? If so, Birmingham will have some nasty weather early in the AM.

    I thought it was all staying in N Alabama and Tennessee.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 10:41:31 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    What direction is that front moving in? Is it going SE ward? If so, Birmingham will have some nasty weather early in the AM.

    I thought it was all staying in N Alabama and Tennessee.


    Moving SouthEast. Sowwy.  :(


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 10:46:37 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "Anna"

    Before I go hide from the storm, I wanted to bring this forward for any who didn't see it.  Sounds like this person knows something!  

     :shock:  :evil:  :shock:

    OOOOOOOOHHHHH!  Shades of Shango in that post.  :shock:

    Go ahead I'm waiting.


    Hang on. I am trying to multitask here. LOL


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 10:48:30 PM
    Hey SB!   GO GATORS!! :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 10:48:39 PM
    Quote from: "Buckeye"
    Quote from: "sb"
    The person who made that Front Page post has some interesting points, but the initial assumption that they made about Joran and GVC and a Friday night incident is kind of shaky.

    We don't know how well the 2 guys were connected, and what the deal was that night and how it might have influenced Joran. We just don't KNOW any of that. To bring that up and claim that that was the cause of the incident on May 30th (get back at Natalee for slapping GVC/ Joran) is a very long reach IMO.

    I don't think we have proven anything about a gun either.


    I've always been hesitant of GVC because when Kawish (Joran??) was posting, he kept trying to get us to connect GVC with the shirt.  Trying too hard, in my opinion.




    The gun was the grand finale to put her out of her misery.

    I know nobody believes me, but I believe with all my heart & soul

    it will be proven by the end of this.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 03, 2007, 10:49:57 PM
    It may have been Paulus' gun that was used, or Joran's. (just what I think)

    Can't prove it yet.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BTgirl on April 03, 2007, 10:49:59 PM
    Night monkeys.

    Stay safe everyone.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 10:51:25 PM
    Quote from: "BTgirl"
    Night monkeys.

    Stay safe everyone.


    Night BTgirl!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: justinsmama on April 03, 2007, 10:52:27 PM
    Quote from: "Buckeye"
    Quote from: "sb"
    The person who made that Front Page post has some interesting points, but the initial assumption that they made about Joran and GVC and a Friday night incident is kind of shaky.

    We don't know how well the 2 guys were connected, and what the deal was that night and how it might have influenced Joran. We just don't KNOW any of that. To bring that up and claim that that was the cause of the incident on May 30th (get back at Natalee for slapping GVC/ Joran) is a very long reach IMO.

    I don't think we have proven anything about a gun either.


    I've always been hesitant of GVC because when Kawish (Joran??) was posting, he kept trying to get us to connect GVC with the shirt.  Trying too hard, in my opinion.


    My recollection may well be wrong, but I thought that it was Florida who was trying to tie GVC to the shirt?

    Was gone and gonna go to bed... am oncall and had to go take a female client to a domestic violence shelter. Damn creeps who hurt other people!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 10:53:52 PM
    Hi All..

      Stay safe !  BT I dunno if you left? But you are skeered of spiders.. but not the scorpions?  lol  :wink:

      Lalas.. Be interesting to hear yor thoughts about the FP post.. I got goosebumps reading it!   :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 10:55:46 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    It may have been Paulus' gun that was used, or Joran's. (just what I think)

    Can't prove it yet.

    I believe Joran pull the trigger.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 10:57:45 PM
    Thanks Lala's! I'm TRYING to brag too much... I kept my comments on the sports thread in the other forum but since you brought it up...

    So many firsts for the Gators.

    First ever repeat NC's in basketball with the same starting 5 players.

    First time that one school has won both football and basketball titles in the same academic year (we were the first to win them in the same CALENDAR year with last year's titles)

    First time that one school has beaten the same school in 2 championship games consecutively (sorry buckeye)

    First time that one school has won multiple UNDISPUTED titles in both football and basketball (the only other school that has 2 of each is Michigan State, and their football titles were shared with other teams)

    The Gator athletic program is on an incredible roll right now!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 10:57:55 PM
    Angie, good to see you tonight!!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 10:59:06 PM
    BAD TYPO. I am trying NOT to brag too much.

    Not succeeding very well.  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:00:29 PM
    BTW, casa, thecuz, all you Arkansas people... that is a TOUGH break about your basketball coach today. You have too good a program to be having to go through that.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:01:42 PM
    Quote from: "casa"
    Angie, good to see you tonight!!


      Hey chicky!!  Nice to see you too!!  :)  Hope you are safe!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:04:37 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    BAD TYPO. I am trying NOT to brag too much.

    Not succeeding very well.  :wink:


      LOL SB.. typos are catchy   :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:05:49 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    BTW, casa, thecuz, all you Arkansas people... that is a TOUGH break about your basketball coach today. You have too good a program to be having to go through that.


    Thanks, SB.  They do seem to have their problems!  The cuz is a big Ark fan;however I'm not.  They have had problems with football and basketball this year.  I'm an Ark transplant from Louisiana.  My favorite team in Louisiana Tech University in Ruston.  My alma mater!  But they fired their head boys basketball coach today.  Wouldn't be surprised if the girls coach followed.  The girls didn't make the tournament this year for the first time ever!  The university was NOT happy!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:06:44 PM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "casa"
    Angie, good to see you tonight!!


      Hey chicky!!  Nice to see you too!!  :)  Hope you are safe!


    Right now I am safe.  Bad weather around us but none here yet!  I'm watching news and weather now.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 03, 2007, 11:08:28 PM
    Lala's I will catch your Shango in the morning.  Getting tired.

    Goodnight Everyone.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 03, 2007, 11:08:35 PM
    SB,it is moving your way.I know about spider phobia,yes I do.I take the spiders over tornadoes.You should too.cat   I am singing off now till tomorrow.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 11:10:13 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Lala's I will catch your Shango in the morning.  Getting tired.

    Goodnight Everyone.

    Nite San


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:10:19 PM
    Cat are you from Mountain Brook?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 11:10:38 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    SB,it is moving your way.I know about spider phobia,yes I do.I take the spiders over tornadoes.You should too.cat   I am singing off now till tomorrow.

    Nite Cat - stay safe


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:11:29 PM
    Night san and cat!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:14:26 PM
    Just posted on the front page of SM by Evilive:

    I have not posted in a while so here it is…….
    Paulus to Jan and others.
    There was this blonde American female tourist that tried to get Joran and Geoffrey in trouble. They say some photos of her at the HI. They thought she was hot and any easy pick so they wanted to have a little fun with her at C and C’s. She ended up slapping Geoffrey and when Joran made his advances; she tried to file a report to the police against both of them. This could be a confusion over the fight that happened between the MB teen (I don't think we know who it was for sure) and Joran.  Did we ever confirm that?


    Joran will point her out to me when we go to the casino. Joran is going to try and bring her over to my place before she leaves Aruba. If Joran can get her I think we should teach the little slut a lesson she won’t forget. Anita won’t be home and neither will my other boys; it will be perfect if he can get her. We’ll teach her a lesson and then bring her back to her hotel. She won’t remember a thing. You know; why not asked Freddie to come over and video tape our lesson.

    Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:36 pm
    All that the gamblers knew was written down. They knew the girl. She spent her nights at their tables.
    I am thinking this poster was speculating on what happened.  Not necessarily knew from first hand knowledge.

    We have done this to other tourist at least twenty times before and nothing has ever gone wrong. This is a direct reference to the "twenty times" we have heard for so long.  No Shango here.


    But something bad happened didn’t it Paulus? Natalee was a virgin. There was blood on the mattress. Natalee was slipping in and out of consciousness when she stopped breathing. You all tried to revive her unsuccessfully. You know you could not report this to the police because jan van der Straaten was already there. You tried to find information on the internet about drug interaction. You called your buddy at the funeral home. He told you he would send someone over from the church and wait for you to bring Natalee; but you had to come up with some amnesia money.
    You placed her in your truck, went to the ATM and then went to the cemetery.
    The caretaker placed her temporarily in a crypt until everyone could figure out what to do with the body.  Bifrons??

    Later your truck was confiscated so no evidence could be found.
    Later you found out the caretaker and Benson tried to collect Natalee’s reward money and you had both of them killed. I knew about Benson, what was the caretaker's name?

    You thought you had plenty of time to secure your no body you have no case.
    You got rid of Natalee’s body and clothing.
    However; you left behind Natalee’s underwear that Anita found.
    Aruba could not let it be known that a prominent judge, other officials and their sons were involved in date rape schemes. Aruba’s tourist business would go straight down the tubes.
    Keon and Guido are your weakest links, so you had to get them out of the country. Jan is a bag of nerves and he got shipped to Bonaire. Even Dave knew Koen was involved in some way.

    Dompig said that he could solve the case, but it was bigger them him; especially when they threatened to include Michael in the rape and murder. Or was he, and they threatened to expose him.
    You, Jan, Steve Croes, Nelson Oduber and Dompig since he was an original spokesman for the tourist industry and others were involved in a cover up scheme. You can’t bring closure now because you don’t have a body to return.
    You all rushed to cover up but didn’t count on how much exposure Natalee would receive. Now it’s no body no tourists.


    Just a few thoughts about the post.  Now sure how much of it can be proven.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:15:17 PM
    BRb..  just had to call cops.. stalker chick is driving around the house here..  after my son..


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:16:01 PM
    Well! The nerve.  Everyone wants to know but nobody stayed up to hear.  :roll:  I know it took me a while and I'm not even finished yet.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:17:22 PM
    Cat may be about to have a wet night too.

    casa, I don't understand what has happened with LA Tech and their women's bball lately! They were a powerhouse until that coach they had for so long retired, since then they aren't doing anything. I wish someone would step up and level the Summitt if you know what I mean- with all due respect to BOC, I can't stand that lady!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:17:36 PM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    BRb..  just had to call cops.. stalker chick is driving around the house here..  after my son..


    Im so sorry Angie.  I was hoping that situation had gotten better!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:18:43 PM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    BRb..  just had to call cops.. stalker chick is driving around the house here..  after my son..


    I think I could take stalker chick!  Want me to hop a plane and get there by tomorrow?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:21:52 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Cat may be about to have a wet night too.

    casa, I don't understand what has happened with LA Tech and their women's bball lately! They were a powerhouse until that coach they had for so long retired, since then they aren't doing anything. I wish someone would step up and level the Summitt if you know what I mean- with all due respect to BOC, I can't stand that lady!


    I'm not crazy about her either sb!  Yes, since Leon Barmore left the Lady Techsters have had some problems.  We've had some good players just no success.   My oldest daughter works there and she told me that she thought there were some serious discipline problems with the girls who are there now.  It hurts me to see such a great program go down.  I was born and raised there so I was around when no one could touch them.  Hopefully, some day soon things will turn around.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:22:29 PM
    Angie how old is that girl? If she's a minor, her parents can be held responsible if the pulls stunts like that too.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Rooscrew on April 03, 2007, 11:22:34 PM
    Lalas~

    I'm here and very interested in what you have to say.  :)

    Roos~


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 11:22:48 PM
    That Evilive person has posted in the forum under a different name.  I won't mention the name since he/she chose not to use it.  It is NOT Shango or Simian or anyone like that.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:23:28 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    BRb..  just had to call cops.. stalker chick is driving around the house here..  after my son..


    I think I could take stalker chick!  Want me to hop a plane and get there by tomorrow?


    I'll come help, Lala's.  I'm sure we could do it together if you needed help.   But, my money would be on you! :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:23:51 PM
    casa, I couldn't remember leon Barmore's name to save my life!

    Rooscrew it is GOOD to see you in here again!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Rooscrew on April 03, 2007, 11:24:05 PM
    Angie~

    Saying prayers for you about this chick.

    All Southern monkeys stay safe, you are in my prayers.

    Roos~


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:25:13 PM
    Quote from: "Rooscrew"
    Angie~

    Saying prayers for you about this chick.

    All Southern monkeys stay safe, you are in my prayers.

    Roos~


    Thanks, Rooscrew.  Bad weather all over the place down here!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:26:06 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Well! The nerve.  Everyone wants to know but nobody stayed up to hear.  :roll:  I know it took me a while and I'm not even finished yet.


     Lalas.. I am back and was waiting ..


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Rooscrew on April 03, 2007, 11:27:40 PM
    Thanks SB!

    I'm here, just been lurking and following all the drama from the misfits. I just wished there was good news for Beth & Dave these days. It's been too long since they've had anything good in their favor.

    Roos~


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:27:52 PM
    Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
    The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle


    From the FP:
    You, Jan, Steve Croes, Nelson Oduber and Dompig since he was an original spokesman for the tourist industry and others were involved in a cover up scheme


    It's easy to tango with all the stuff being said. Truth is you can make most anything fit that  is said about Aruba.  That's because it's such a corrupt place. It goes deeper than we want to believe. IMO


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:29:38 PM
    Quote from: "casa"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    BRb..  just had to call cops.. stalker chick is driving around the house here..  after my son..


    Im so sorry Angie.  I was hoping that situation had gotten better!


     No it hasnt.. I went to PO PO today with my son.. she sent him a text message yesterday asking him if he checks his brakes on his car before he gets in it.  Cops went to school today.. she was isssued a statement .. shes WELL KNOWN in the area.. cops cant stand her.. and shes done this befoe to BOYS only.  <I guess so no girl can kick her ass>.. shes clled him 2 times since the cops were at at school.. and now driving around the house .. cops called me back.. said to watch and call back to see that direction she heads  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  >I could chase her before they do.. I may end up in jail yet..  :evil: ? Bake me a cake?   :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:32:16 PM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "casa"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    BRb..  just had to call cops.. stalker chick is driving around the house here..  after my son..


    Im so sorry Angie.  I was hoping that situation had gotten better!


     No it hasnt.. I went to PO PO today with my son.. she sent him a text message yesterday asking him if he checks his brakes on his car before he gets in it.  Cops went to school today.. she was isssued a statement .. shes WELL KNOWN in the area.. cops cant stand her.. and shes done this befoe to BOYS only.  <I guess so no girl can kick her ass>.. shes clled him 2 times since the cops were at at school.. and now driving around the house .. cops called me back.. said to watch and call back to see that direction she heads  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  >I could chase her before they do.. I may end up in jail yet..  :evil: ? Bake me a cake?   :wink:



    Oh, Angie!  Please don't go to jail, but I would totally understand!  Don't mess with our babies!  I will definitely bake you a cake.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:32:45 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie how old is that girl? If she's a minor, her parents can be held responsible if the pulls stunts like that too.


     she us 17 and on probabtion. and I was todl bt ALL the cops at the station today.. talking to her mom and step dad are like talknig to a wall.. they make excuses for her all the time.
     I just left a nice message for her probabtion officer :twisted: Cops said NOBODY ever pressed charges against her. this is the FIRST!
     My son is embarssed.. cops told him not to be. she only does this to boys!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:33:58 PM
    Lala's and casa, y'all bake the cake, I'll supply the file!

    When those cops DO catch that gal she is going DOWN for making terroristic threats. She is in some SERIOUS trouble.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:35:01 PM
    Hey, sb.  Our baseball team at La Tech is kicking butt this year though.  Their offense is ranked nationally in several areas.  My youngest daughter is a freshman at Tech and she is a baseball groupie haha.  No, she has several guy friends who play and she makes most of the games.  I think it is time for me to travel down there and watch a game and meet these friends! :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:35:33 PM
    Lalas.. WOW.. you are awesome .
      So yah think maybe that FP poster might be Shango?    :shock:
     I often wondered at times if Snago wasnt the one who took those Aruba bay videos.. ROb and I discussed this long ago?  WTH is his name? Ed Smith?  Just a thought?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: casa on April 03, 2007, 11:36:06 PM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie how old is that girl? If she's a minor, her parents can be held responsible if the pulls stunts like that too.


     she us 17 and on probabtion. and I was todl bt ALL the cops at the station today.. talking to her mom and step dad are like talknig to a wall.. they make excuses for her all the time.
     I just left a nice message for her probabtion officer :twisted: Cops said NOBODY ever pressed charges against her. this is the FIRST!
     My son is embarssed.. cops told him not to be. she only does this to boys!


    Sounds like her parents are a large part of her problems!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:36:35 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Lala's and casa, y'all bake the cake, I'll supply the file!

    When those cops DO catch that gal she is going DOWN for making terroristic threats. She is in some SERIOUS trouble.


      Thanks..LOL you have no idea how I wish I was 17 right now  :oops:
    Id be kicking some major butt  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:38:06 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
    The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle


    From the FP:
    You, Jan, Steve Croes, Nelson Oduber and Dompig since he was an original spokesman for the tourist industry and others were involved in a cover up scheme


    It's easy to tango with all the stuff being said. Truth is you can make most anything fit that  is said about Aruba.  That's because it's such a corrupt place. It goes deeper than we want to believe. IMO


     :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:39:02 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
    The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle


    From the FP:
    You, Jan, Steve Croes, Nelson Oduber and Dompig since he was an original spokesman for the tourist industry and others were involved in a cover up scheme


    It's easy to tango with all the stuff being said. Truth is you can make most anything fit that  is said about Aruba.  That's because it's such a corrupt place. It goes deeper than we want to believe. IMO



    I am convinced that the government officials were picking up the young tourist girls THEMSELVES, and/or having the Jorans do it on their behalf. They were in on the assaults just like the young bucks were. Oduber probably had his "20 times before" a while back. Like Croes, or VDStraten or all the rest.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:39:34 PM
    I apologize  :oops:

    lalas  you here? I wanna hear more please!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 03, 2007, 11:40:09 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    That Evilive person has posted in the forum under a different name.  I won't mention the name since he/she chose not to use it.  It is NOT Shango or Simian or anyone like that.

    Not Shango, IMO


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:40:54 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    That Evilive person has posted in the forum under a different name.  I won't mention the name since he/she chose not to use it.  It is NOT Shango or Simian or anyone like that.

    Not Shango, IMO


     TY  Klaas..


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:41:58 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    That Evilive person has posted in the forum under a different name.  I won't mention the name since he/she chose not to use it.  It is NOT Shango or Simian or anyone like that.


    Aha!  That means this person knows all about Shango and things we have talked about at length here.  That is why it sounds so familiar to us. So much for Shango.   :roll:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:43:02 PM
    I posted way back in like, July of 2005, that the idea of Trapenberg being in on Natalee's assault was not farfetched at all. He was at the Raves and is all over those stinkin' Myspace and Tickle sites.

    Rape is a cottage industry down there.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Carnut on April 03, 2007, 11:44:03 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    That Evilive person has posted in the forum under a different name.  I won't mention the name since he/she chose not to use it.  It is NOT Shango or Simian or anyone like that.


    Aha!  That means this person knows all about Shango and things we have talked about at length here.  That is why it sounds so familiar to us. So much for Shango.   :roll:


    Is there anyone who posts here regularly who is not intimately familiar with Shango?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:45:09 PM
    No, that isn't the Shango story.

    Shango basically says it didn't happen at VDS house.

    Maybe we should ponder THAT a little bit...


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:46:27 PM
    Angie!  I told you I could take her.  Now, you just let the cops handle it and she will go to jail for a change.  With her record and past history of stalking, she needs some serious psychotherapy.  She has a problem and it's her!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:48:30 PM
    Carnut!
     Hey fella, how are you?  So glad you dropped in.  You are right, if they converse with me, they are certainly familiar with Shango.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 03, 2007, 11:49:59 PM
    Lala's, just an opinion...

    do you think it's possible that Shango's story is meant to DEFLECT SUSPICION FROM VDS?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:51:02 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    No, that isn't the Shango story.

    Shango basically says it didn't happen at VDS house.

    Maybe we should ponder THAT a little bit...


    You are correct!  Shango doesn't really give a location at all.  He only makes references to possibilities.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:51:36 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Angie!  I told you I could take her.  Now, you just let the cops handle it and she will go to jail for a change.  With her record and past history of stalking, she needs some serious psychotherapy.  She has a problem and it's her!


     She does need help. and for that I DO feel sorry for her.. her parents are a waste obviously. My son is no Angel.. trust me. He dont deserve this.. nobody does.   :(  Its really disgusting..  I have to go to work daily in nervous  wreck.  :evil:  Cops said shes is 10 times worse then any boy could ever be. Nice huh?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:52:49 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Lala's, just an opinion...

    do you think it's possible that Shango's story is meant to DEFLECT SUSPICION FROM VDS?

      Hmm SB.. I never actuallt thought of that?
    <I know Im not Lalas..lol>


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:55:20 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Lala's, just an opinion...

    do you think it's possible that Shango's story is meant to DEFLECT SUSPICION FROM VDS?


    Shango clearly states that the elder (Paulus) knows the inner workings of the government and ways to get around the law, but he never directly indicates that Paulus is involved.  Simian is the one that implies that Paulus is involved early on.

    Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
    The last hope rests on the shoulders of the cowboys. Ten days, two down, eight to go.
    The elder knows the passages in the palace too well. The Babylonians are afraid they might not be able to stop him.
    Don’t shake the wire, ‘cause the bird will fy away.
    Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
    Simian, older PVDS had one ot two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 03, 2007, 11:56:20 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "sb"
    No, that isn't the Shango story.

    Shango basically says it didn't happen at VDS house.

    Maybe we should ponder THAT a little bit...


    You are correct!  Shango doesn't really give a location at all.  He only makes references to possibilities.


     Lalas..  I know you wont post here.. but often wondered who you think Shango is?   A trustowrthy AKE person? Their wife maybe.,. in one of those posts.. something  about feed the messengers were posted? Think it was a female maybe?  Having to make dinner for kids?    :oops:
     Dont laugh at me.. LOL   What aboue Ed Smith perhaps? the one who made the videos? and The missing video thats gonzo?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 03, 2007, 11:58:37 PM
    I think Shango was trying to tell us his theory in order to believe certain things.  I am not an expert on Shango or Simian, but the two are very different in their thoughts.  In the end Shango argues with Simian.  I know some think they were friends or related.  Either way, the communication ends in a disagreement.  Simian promised things and didn't deliver and Shango didn't hesitate to rub it in.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:04:53 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "sb"
    No, that isn't the Shango story.

    Shango basically says it didn't happen at VDS house.

    Maybe we should ponder THAT a little bit...


    You are correct!  Shango doesn't really give a location at all.  He only makes references to possibilities.


     Lalas..  I know you wont post here.. but often wondered who you think Shango is?   A trustowrthy AKE person? Their wife maybe.,. in one of those posts.. something  about feed the messengers were posted? Think it was a female maybe?  Having to make dinner for kids?    :oops:
     Dont laugh at me.. LOL   What aboue Ed Smith perhaps? the one who made the videos? and The missing video thats gonzo?


    Never considered Smith as a Shango operative. I have as hard a time seeing things in those videos as some of you do understanding Shango.  So when you guys roll your eyes at me I understand your frustration.  Those videos look like people painting rocks and bags of wadded up paper to me.  I can't see heads and hands and bracelets and dog legs and clues.  I have given myself headaches looking at them and for the life of me I still don't see anything but what they look like on the surface.  That is why I understand others' Shango irritation with me.  I think we all have done a lot of hard work and if we could just put two and two together I still think it will come out as 4.  Joran, Deepak, Satish, and Paulus.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:06:48 AM
    Oh, And Angie...you are right...I won't say who I think is Shango.  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 12:08:20 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Oh, And Angie...you are right...I won't say who I think is Shango.  :wink:


     Not in email even?   :wink:   LOL LOL


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 12:17:46 AM
    umm  did I skeer everyone away like Robots?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:17:59 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Oh, And Angie...you are right...I won't say who I think is Shango.  :wink:


     Not in email even?   :wink:   LOL LOL


    Well, maybe.   :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 12:18:42 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Oh, And Angie...you are right...I won't say who I think is Shango.  :wink:


     Not in email even?   :wink:   LOL LOL


    Well, maybe.   :wink:


      ROFL   :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 12:19:44 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    I have as hard a time seeing things in those videos as some of you do understanding Shango.  So when you guys roll your eyes at me I understand your frustration.  Those videos look like people painting rocks and bags of wadded up paper to me.  I can't see heads and hands and bracelets and dog legs and clues.  I have given myself headaches looking at them and for the life of me I still don't see anything but what they look like on the surface.


    Hear, hear.

    I just am not SEEING IT! Too many people with too much imagination are seeing body parts in every ever-lovin' container that anyone has taken a picture of on Aruba for the last 2 years. They have Natalee moved 5-ways to Friday all over that island by every conceivable means, and stashed in every possible grave or crypt or hiding place.

    These kind of people don't MOVE bodies, they DISPOSE of them!!! EVERY "move" is a HUMONGOUS security risk, and a messy, nasty job. They dispose of their victims ONCE AND FOR ALL. They are PROS who want messes CLEANED UP, quickly and decisively.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:21:34 AM
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/hjhjhjh.png)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:21:56 AM
    I put them to sleep with Shango...he's better than a lullaby.  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:23:45 AM
    this one is the hardest one to shoot down yet.


    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/dffddfddfd-2.png


    she was IN THE BAG, 6/10/2005 imo


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:27:25 AM
    Now, Carpe has his own thoughts on that stuff and I try to see those things, but I just can't.  I really want to, but I am image challenged.  I think they did move her body at least twice, maybe even three times.  And considering the corruption I doubt they would be caught at any time, day or night.  Those people just look the other way and stay to their own.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 12:27:27 AM
    I cant see yours SB and lalas point of view..  BUT I see some photos differently..  I have looked over Carpes phoobucket accts over and over in the past.  IMO..  there is definatley a head/heads in those bags.  There are alot of photos to go through.  
      Recall long ago SLEUTH posting some as well?   I know we all see things differently..  !!  <not arguing here>


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:29:06 AM
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/capnvid.jpg)

     :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 12:33:13 AM
    Pictures are notoriously hard to make sense of when shot  from hard angles or with bad focus or lighting.

    The beach picture close-up of her hand looks disproportionate. That thumb looks more like the thumb of a truck driver than a petite young woman, and we KNOW it is Natalee's.

    The bag pictures are the most indistinct and blurred shots I have ever seen anyone try to do forensic-type analysis on. Getting any valid info from such poor pictures is difficult to say the least.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:33:20 AM
    They are absolutely hard to see, no argument there!

    ...and you throw into that wicked cocktail mix...

    that everyone's eyes, brains, and computer equipment differ...

    ...it is no surprise to me, that the Arubay tapes spawn so many differing
    opinions.

    We shall see, I pray I am not wrong.

    I really believe what I see, I promise.

    unlike Joran ... dat is the truth.  :D  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:33:29 AM
    I remember the picture of the shoe at the edge of the water.  I looked for at least two weeks at that photo and until someone drew an outline I couldn't see a thing but water and dirt.  Then I finally saw the shoe or at least I thought I did.   See, I have no idea if I really saw it or just saw it as the outline.  I know many posters firmly believe that those videos contained clues.  Just as firmly as I believe that Shango and Simian knew what was going on and just didn't want to get caught.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:35:03 AM
    The beach picture close-up of her hand looks disproportionate. That thumb looks more like the thumb of a truck driver than a petite young woman, and we KNOW it is Natalee's.


    I respectfully disagree on that one. To my eyes, it is a match.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:38:12 AM
    The bag pictures are the most indistinct and blurred shots I have ever seen anyone try to do forensic-type analysis on. Getting any valid info from such poor pictures is difficult to say the least.

    ---

    YEP! totally. I couldn't agree more!!!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:39:05 AM
    My eyes and brain do not see anything in those videos.  I wish I could see it as some do.  I have tried for almost two years now and my mind turns to mush when I see them.  Maybe I should study them more closely.  I want one of us that have spent so many countless hours thinking and searching and researching and hunting and guessing to be right about something.  I don't want to think I have wasted all this time and been of absolutely no help to this family.  They deserve better.  They need to find their child and bring her home.  That is all they ever wanted.  Just to bring her home.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:44:21 AM
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/natalee_holloway1TTT.jpg)


    YOU GOT THAT RIGHT, LALAS!


    Bless ya, lady.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 12:49:20 AM
    :shock:   that stalker bitch wont let up..

    Sent this to my kid.. and I cant print it? he emailed it to me.. and DAMMIT this VISTA CRAP

    xxxxxxxx (12:20:00 AM): ill give you $100 CASH if you drop the charge
    xxxxxxxx: $150
    xxxxxxxx:  and ill leave you alone FOREVER

     No wshes bribing him?  OMG  shes SICK.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 12:52:07 AM
    Carpe.. would you mind if I eamiled Lalas your photobuckets I have?
    SB I can send them to you as well if you want.. tons of photos to look through. Carpe has done an excelent job on them all. But he needs to say its ok first.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 12:52:29 AM
    SHE'S SCARED!

    You got her RIGHT where you want her, Angie! Keep it up!

    Keep that text message TOO!  More fuel to the fire.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 12:57:49 AM
    It is a VERY ggod sign that she knows she has met a match and that you won't roll over like everyone else has. Stick to it and you'll solve her little problem.

    I'll take a pass on those pictures. I have so much stuff now that I'll never go through it all.

    I am going to head out for the night. Angie, you hang in there and close that gal DOWN!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 12:58:02 AM
    Quote from: "sb"
    SHE'S SCARED!

    You got her RIGHT where you want her, Angie! Keep it up!

    Keep that text message TOO!  More fuel to the fire.


     SN she sent it to him on an instan messahe on the computer.. he ignored it and emailed it to me.. now I cant print the damn thing out..  I tryed I bet 20 times.. this windows Vista SUCKS.. I had to email it to my hubby..  :roll:   so he can print it out from his lappy.  
      Now shes  trying to bribe?   What  fruitcake..   :evil:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 12:59:22 AM
    Quote from: "sb"
    It is a VERY ggod sign that she knows she has met a match and that you won't roll over like everyone else has. Stick to it and you'll solve her little problem.

    I'll take a pass on those pictures. I have so much stuff now that I'll never go through it all.

    I am going to head out for the night. Angie, you hang in there and close that gal DOWN!


      Night SB.. and TY..  I am normally a nice person and easy to get along with..lol  I have had it though.  :evil:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Rooscrew on April 04, 2007, 12:59:38 AM
    Go get her Angie!! Stay strong & tough!

    Roos~


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 01:01:28 AM
    Angie MAKE SURE YOUR SON PRESERVES THAT TM. Save it to disk, or do a screen cap.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on April 04, 2007, 01:01:30 AM
    BOC on a fly by! How about those Lady Vols!!! :D  :D  :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:02:01 AM
    Quote from: "Rooscrew"
    Go get her Angie!! Stay strong & tough!

    Roos~


     I hate to have to do this to a kid,, but shes making my kid and my life a living hell..  and my printer is making me mad?  VISTA sucks.  I HATE it.. :(


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:03:09 AM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie MAKE SURE YOUR SON PRESERVES THAT TM. Save it to disk, or do a screen cap.


      I have it saved.. on my pc.. it wont print though?   Its saved like 5 times..lol


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 01:03:43 AM
    They've been discussed.  :roll:

    Just kidding BOC, corgratulations! Even though we're not real fond of Summitt...

    I guess Noah ain't too popular either LOL.

    Now I'm done. See y'all tomorrow!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:03:58 AM
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    BOC on a fly by! How about those Lady Vols!!! :D  :D  :D


     Congrats BOC..  :)

    And did you go to Bristol?  :evil:     :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:04:29 AM
    Quote from: "sb"
    They've been discussed.  :roll:

    Just kidding BOC, corgratulations! Even though we're not real fond of Summitt...

    I guess Noah ain't too popular either LOL.

    Now I'm done. See y'all tomorrow!


     Night SB


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Rooscrew on April 04, 2007, 01:09:19 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "Rooscrew"
    Go get her Angie!! Stay strong & tough!

    Roos~


     I hate to have to do this to a kid,, but shes making my kid and my life a living hell..  and my printer is making me mad?  VISTA sucks.  I HATE it.. :(


    I know it's a tough situation, but you have to protect your son. No telling what she's capable of doing that she hasn't done yet. She thinks she's invincible as everyone seems to be afraid of her, kinda like the idiots in Aruba.  I'll be holding you & your son up in prayer. Be strong and don't back down from her, she's needs a major wakeup call and to be held accountable for her actions. Sending you lots of {{{{HUGS}}}}

    Roos~


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 01:11:31 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Carpe.. would you mind if I eamiled Lalas your photobuckets I have?
    SB I can send them to you as well if you want.. tons of photos to look through. Carpe has done an excelent job on them all. But he needs to say its ok first.




    ROFL

    That nutter after your son is a piece 'o work!

     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
    ------

    Angie,

    You can use my PB for any reason, ANYTIME. All I care
    about is Justice 4 Natalee.It is the ONLY THING that matters.

    You've got the green light, without even having to ask. Thank you


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on April 04, 2007, 01:11:50 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    BOC on a fly by! How about those Lady Vols!!! :D  :D  :D


     Congrats BOC..  :)

    And did you go to Bristol?  :evil:     :wink:


    No as I was out of town that weekend!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 01:14:46 AM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Carpe.. would you mind if I eamiled Lalas your photobuckets I have?
    SB I can send them to you as well if you want.. tons of photos to look through. Carpe has done an excelent job on them all. But he needs to say its ok first.




    ROFL

    That nutter after your son is a piece 'o work!

     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
    ------

    Angie,

    You can use my PB for any reason, ANYTIME. All I care
    about is Justice 4 Natalee.It is the ONLY THING that matters.

    You've got the green light, without even having to ask. Thank you



    sleep tight, SB!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 01:17:51 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie MAKE SURE YOUR SON PRESERVES THAT TM. Save it to disk, or do a screen cap.


      I have it saved.. on my pc.. it wont print though?   Its saved like 5 times..lol


    E-mail it to someone, Angie, just to be sure it survives a crash!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on April 04, 2007, 01:17:58 AM
    Quote from: "sb"
    They've been discussed.  :roll:

    Just kidding BOC, corgratulations! Even though we're not real fond of Summitt...

    I guess Noah ain't too popular either LOL.

    Now I'm done. See y'all tomorrow!


    I know Gators do not like her 7 national championships!! :wink:  :wink: But they are SEC!

    Just like I pulled for Noah and the Gators against OSU! Goes back to SEC Pride!! :D  :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:19:41 AM
    Quote from: "Rooscrew"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "Rooscrew"
    Go get her Angie!! Stay strong & tough!

    Roos~


     I hate to have to do this to a kid,, but shes making my kid and my life a living hell..  and my printer is making me mad?  VISTA sucks.  I HATE it.. :(


    I know it's a tough situation, but you have to protect your son. No telling what she's capable of doing that she hasn't done yet. She thinks she's invincible as everyone seems to be afraid of her, kinda like the idiots in Aruba.  I'll be holding you & your son up in prayer. Be strong and don't back down from her, she's needs a major wakeup call and to be held accountable for her actions. Sending you lots of {{{{HUGS}}}}

    Roos~


      TY sweety..   this sucks.. :( oh I wont back down.. no 17 yr old bimbo scares me.. :)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on April 04, 2007, 01:21:44 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie MAKE SURE YOUR SON PRESERVES THAT TM. Save it to disk, or do a screen cap.


      I have it saved.. on my pc.. it wont print though?   Its saved like 5 times..lol


    E-mail it to someone, Angie, just to be sure it survives a crash!


    borg thanks for your help over in the Travel board!! You need to vist about twice a week and give them a goose on safety! :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:22:30 AM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Carpe.. would you mind if I eamiled Lalas your photobuckets I have?
    SB I can send them to you as well if you want.. tons of photos to look through. Carpe has done an excelent job on them all. But he needs to say its ok first.




    ROFL

    That nutter after your son is a piece 'o work!

     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
    ------

    Angie,

    You can use my PB for any reason, ANYTIME. All I care
    about is Justice 4 Natalee.It is the ONLY THING that matters.

    You've got the green light, without even having to ask. Thank you


      Carpe Thank YOU.. I know you have posted it long ago.. and I saved it then, and another.  I know you have busted your ass on them..  and its helped me ALOT to go through those photos to understand alot. so THANK YOU!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 01:23:45 AM
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie MAKE SURE YOUR SON PRESERVES THAT TM. Save it to disk, or do a screen cap.


      I have it saved.. on my pc.. it wont print though?   Its saved like 5 times..lol


    E-mail it to someone, Angie, just to be sure it survives a crash!


    borg thanks for your help over in the Travel board!! You need to vist about twice a week and give them a goose on safety! :D


    I tried, BOC, I tried!
    There's a real nasty one on that board, isn't there?  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:25:53 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie MAKE SURE YOUR SON PRESERVES THAT TM. Save it to disk, or do a screen cap.


      I have it saved.. on my pc.. it wont print though?   Its saved like 5 times..lol


    E-mail it to someone, Angie, just to be sure it survives a crash!


     emailed to it my hubby on his pc..  I am still pissing around with mine and this printer.. I never seen a PC ask to save something  to print. WTF happend to just hitting print?  <have i said Vista sucks? >  I go  back to where its saved about a dozen times.. and it still wont work.  Hubby will have to print it in the morning I guess.  I might have to take a puter course with this Vista.. Id NOT recommend it at all. It sucks donkey pee pees.  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:27:40 AM
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    BOC on a fly by! How about those Lady Vols!!! :D  :D  :D


     Congrats BOC..  :)

    And did you go to Bristol?  :evil:     :wink:


    No as I was out of town that weekend!

     
    Ohhh.. I think I did see that.. the ATA thingy?  Meeting of some sorts?
    <Im lost anymore.. so excuse me. :(  >


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on April 04, 2007, 01:28:03 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie MAKE SURE YOUR SON PRESERVES THAT TM. Save it to disk, or do a screen cap.


      I have it saved.. on my pc.. it wont print though?   Its saved like 5 times..lol


    E-mail it to someone, Angie, just to be sure it survives a crash!


    borg thanks for your help over in the Travel board!! You need to vist about twice a week and give them a goose on safety! :D


    I tried, BOC, I tried!
    There's a real nasty one on that board, isn't there?  :lol:


    They now admit there is some crime in Aruba! I also have another travel board I visit who is giving me a rough time but they do not erase! So I can get my licks in!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 01:29:04 AM
    Angie, I mentioned Vista to the computer guy at work, and he said that all lappy's come with it, but you can add software to replace it. He hates it too.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 01:30:35 AM
    Angie!  She needs to pay for this crap she's pulled.  Keep up the pressure.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 01:30:44 AM
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "sb"
    Angie MAKE SURE YOUR SON PRESERVES THAT TM. Save it to disk, or do a screen cap.


      I have it saved.. on my pc.. it wont print though?   Its saved like 5 times..lol


    E-mail it to someone, Angie, just to be sure it survives a crash!


    borg thanks for your help over in the Travel board!! You need to vist about twice a week and give them a goose on safety! :D


    I tried, BOC, I tried!
    There's a real nasty one on that board, isn't there?  :lol:


    They now admit there is some crime in Aruba! I also have another travel board I visit who is giving me a rough time but they do not erase! So I can get my licks in!


    If you want some help, post the link...................I can be pretty convincing when I have a good motive like Natalee!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on April 04, 2007, 01:31:34 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Angie, I mentioned Vista to the computer guy at work, and he said that all lappy's come with it, but you can add software to replace it. He hates it too.


    Good nite Monks!

    Borg I like your outfit showing a little leg! :wink:  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 01:34:46 AM
    O/T
    If you have time, take a look at this CNN video. It's awesome!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOW4JsGwWJo


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:36:02 AM
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Angie, I mentioned Vista to the computer guy at work, and he said that all lappy's come with it, but you can add software to replace it. He hates it too.


    Good nite Monks!

    Borg I like your outfit showing a little leg! :wink:  :wink:


     Night BOC.. you havn't changed a bit  ROFL   :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 01:38:19 AM
    Angie, if you are worried.  Send me the TM I won't read it, I will just save it for you. I promise.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:41:30 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    O/T
    If you have time, take a look at this CNN video. It's awesome!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOW4JsGwWJo


     :shock:  WOW  shes awesome.. and I love her words,, FAITH!  :)
      Glad to see shes turned her atheist family around as well.
      Very interesting.. What a remarkable young lady!!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 01:42:28 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    O/T
    If you have time, take a look at this CNN video. It's awesome!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOW4JsGwWJo


     :shock:  WOW  shes awesome.. and I love her words,, FAITH!  :)
      Glad to see shes turned her atheist family around as well.
      Very interesting.. What a remarkable young lady!!

    The paintings just blew me away!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:43:43 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Angie, if you are worried.  Send me the TM I won't read it, I will just save it for you. I promise.


     Lalas  i wil email it to you.. it wasn an instant message she sent my kid over the internet.    :evil:
     BRB will email it to yah..  I just cant get the damn thinkg printed from my pc..  hubbys will work when he wakes up at 4 am.. I might still be up then. nothighn like staying up all night waitiing for  a stalker teen to egg your car.  :roll:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:46:21 AM
    Sent Lalas  and TY.. sent to the 71******* addy


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:48:01 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    O/T
    If you have time, take a look at this CNN video. It's awesome!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOW4JsGwWJo


     :shock:  WOW  shes awesome.. and I love her words,, FAITH!  :)
      Glad to see shes turned her atheist family around as well.
      Very interesting.. What a remarkable young lady!!

    The paintings just blew me away!


      CBB.. me too.. they are beautiful   !  And she self taught herself.. amazing!   Such talent.. and so mature for her age!!!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 01:49:50 AM
    Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Angie, I mentioned Vista to the computer guy at work, and he said that all lappy's come with it, but you can add software to replace it. He hates it too.


    Good nite Monks!

    Borg I like your outfit showing a little leg! :wink:  :wink:


    Thanks, BOC! Sometimes a girl just can't decide WHAT to wear!

    (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/BBchg.gif)
     :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 01:52:09 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    O/T
    If you have time, take a look at this CNN video. It's awesome!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOW4JsGwWJo


    I am speechless!  Utterly and completely awesome!  This story gave me goosebumps.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 01:53:34 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Sent Lalas  and TY.. sent to the 71******* addy


    It's safe with me.  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:53:42 AM
    CBB.. adorable.. I have a Betty Boop sweatshirt I wear to work at times. that says Girls Rock.. lol  I wore it once.. I got teased to death!  :roll:

     AND LALAS you can read it.  LOL  I have nothing to hide!  TY!  :)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:55:45 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Sent Lalas  and TY.. sent to the 71******* addy


    It's safe with me.  :wink:


      TY sweety  .. BIG HUGS!  
     You can read it. No biggy.. you now know my kids name.. LOL  
    and that stalkers IM name  :evil:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 01:57:10 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    O/T
    If you have time, take a look at this CNN video. It's awesome!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOW4JsGwWJo


    I am speechless!  Utterly and completely awesome!  This story gave me goosebumps.


      What a gifted child!!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 02:04:36 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    O/T
    If you have time, take a look at this CNN video. It's awesome!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOW4JsGwWJo


     :shock:  WOW  shes awesome.. and I love her words,, FAITH!  :)
      Glad to see shes turned her atheist family around as well.
      Very interesting.. What a remarkable young lady!!

    The paintings just blew me away!


    I am about to venture off on one of my stories here...bear with me.   I have often felt that when we come into this life.  Our Creator, our God, or whatever you wish to call it, gives us each a GIFT of something.  Often this GIFT becomes our talent.  But there is a very big difference here.  TALENTS can be learned.  You do not need to be born with them in order to use them for God's glory.  You develop your talents by practice and hard work.  For some it is easier, but still it requires some measure of self discipline and time to learn.  GIFTS are those things that are not easily explained by those that have them.  They are born with them.  Given them before they arrived here on earth.  It's in their blood, their genes, or whatever you want to believe. Think about those people that can do amazing things and it just seems so easy and natural that they do it. They are using their GIFT they brought with them when they were born.  It just develops as they grow up.  This girl was given an amazing GIFT.  She is special.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 02:09:31 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    O/T
    If you have time, take a look at this CNN video. It's awesome!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOW4JsGwWJo


     :shock:  WOW  shes awesome.. and I love her words,, FAITH!  :)
      Glad to see shes turned her atheist family around as well.
      Very interesting.. What a remarkable young lady!!

    The paintings just blew me away!


    I am about to venture off on one of my stories here...bear with me.   I have often felt that when we come into this life.  Our Creator, our God, or whatever you wish to call it, gives us each a GIFT of something.  Often this GIFT becomes our talent.  But there is a very big difference here.  TALENTS can be learned.  You do not need to be born with them in order to use them for God's glory.  You develop your talents by practice and hard work.  For some it is easier, but still it requires some measure of self discipline and time to learn.  GIFTS are those things that are not easily explained by those that have them.  They are born with them.  Given them before they arrived here on earth.  It's in their blood, their genes, or whatever you want to believe. Think about those people that can do amazing things and it just seems so easy and natural that they do it. They are using their GIFT they brought with them when they were born.  It just develops as they grow up.  This girl was given an amazing GIFT.  She is special.


     I agree with this all Lalas.. Awesome post.!! :thumleft:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 02:09:45 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Sent Lalas  and TY.. sent to the 71******* addy


    It's safe with me.  :wink:


      TY sweety  .. BIG HUGS!  
     You can read it. No biggy.. you now know my kids name.. LOL  
    and that stalkers IM name  :evil:



    Got it!  OMG!  She's a sick person...needs to be put away before she hurts someone. Let her sweat this one. She deserves it.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 02:11:49 AM
    Well this awesome poster is about to hug Nemo and get her rear in bed before the sun rises. LOL See you monkeys later.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 02:13:43 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Well this awesome poster is about to hug Nemo and get her rear in bed before the sun rises. LOL See you monkeys later.

     Night Lalas.. I guess I am gonna go too. HUGS to NEMO again!
     TY.. and YES she is SICK..  :evil:  :evil:
     I had to email it to myself form my one email addy ot the other to see if that made a difference in trying to print it out. It didnt :(
     Pffffffffffffttttttttttt.. Night everyone. Sweet Dreams!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 02:14:55 AM
    Night, Lala's! I share your beautifully written sentiments!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 02:17:02 AM
    My napper's calling as well! Have a wonderful and safe night, monkeys! God Bless you all!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tibrogargan on April 04, 2007, 02:42:33 AM
    By the time I get back here all the monkeys have left.  Hopefully they are all safely tucked away out of the storms.
    Here is a news article showing some familiar activities by perverts.  At least in this case the law has taken action.

    TEEN FILMS GANG RAPE ORDEAL

    Kara Lawrence April 04, 2007 02:16pm
    Article from: The Daily Telegraph

    A 17-year-old girl was gang-raped by two teens while others watched and filmed the attack on a mobile phone, before forwarding the obscene footage to Sydney school students.
    Liverpool police this morning arrested five 17-year-old boys over the horrific attack.

    It occurred in January but it was not until nine days ago that the victim, from Sydney's southwest, took the brave step of coming forward to police - despite being threatened and told to stay silent.

    Three of those arrested - including a high school student from southwest Sydney - will face Parramatta Childrens Court this afternoon. One of them is alleged to be one of the two principal attackers.

    The other two face court tomorrow.

    The attack occurred at a private home in southwest Sydney. Two teenage boys subjected the victim to forced, degrading sexual acts while three other teenage males watched.

    One of those watching filmed the attack on a videophone. The footage was later forwarded to a number of others, including of students of at least one Sydney high school.

    The school authorities were alerted to the images around the same time the victim came forward to police.

    Liverpool detectives plan to investigate and charge anyone who has forwarded the images either via phone or internet. Jail terms of up to three years apply.

    Police raided homes in Green Valley, Kemps Creek and Miller at 7am today and found one youth at his workplace.

    One of the youths arrested this morning is accused of being among the two principal attackers. All five are being charged with aggravated sexual assault, a term that attracts a maximum 20-year jail term.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 04, 2007, 02:49:57 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    I cant see yours SB and lalas point of view..  BUT I see some photos differently..  I have looked over Carpes phoobucket accts over and over in the past.  IMO..  there is definatley a head/heads in those bags.  There are alot of photos to go through.  
      Recall long ago SLEUTH posting some as well?   I know we all see things differently..  !!  <not arguing here>


    HI Angie ...........

    IMO I Believe The Bag Had An Image Quite Like Natalees Face .........

    Looked Like She Sustained A Large Head Trauma .........

    You Actually Can See The Outline Of Her Swollen Face ..........

    If This Was'nt Someones Practical Joke ..........

    Natalee At One Time Was In This Bag ..........

    Could Be The Image We Are Seeing Is The Impression That Was Left ...

    Or Maybe Natalee Herself Is Trying To Tell Us Something .........


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 04, 2007, 02:56:07 AM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    I cant see yours SB and lalas point of view..  BUT I see some photos differently..  I have looked over Carpes phoobucket accts over and over in the past.  IMO..  there is definatley a head/heads in those bags.  There are alot of photos to go through.  
      Recall long ago SLEUTH posting some as well?   I know we all see things differently..  !!  <not arguing here>


    HI Angie ...........

    IMO I Believe The Bag Had An Image Quite Like Natalees Face .........

    Looked Like She Sustained A Large Head Trauma .........

    You Actually Can See The Outline Of Her Swollen Face ..........

    If This Was'nt Someones Practical Joke ..........

    Natalee At One Time Was In This Bag ..........

    Could Be The Image We Are Seeing Is The Impression That Was Left ...

    Or Maybe Natalee Herself Is Trying To Tell Us Something .........


    After They Killed Her They Had To Move The Body .........

    They Probably Wrapped Her In This Plastic Bag .........

    I Remember Somewhere That The Bag Smelled Awful ....


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 03:03:34 AM
    Hi Widget..  I havnt made it to bed yet.. checking emails  I have.. so behind.

    Here is one link Carpe sent in email and posted..  
    http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/binwhack1/dsssddssd.png

     I do recall wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy back when . when Sleuth posted.. you and I both saw a person in that photo.   Others didn't.
      IMO there WAS..  
     Hope all is well with you and your girls.
      My butt gotta get to bed..    :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 04, 2007, 03:08:34 AM
    When Did They Really Decide That There Was NO Body...........

    When Paulus Told The Perps No Body No Crime Or .........

    When The Government Found The Broken Remains Of Natalee.........

    They Decided  NO BODY To Coincide With PVDS's Statement ........

    They Decided To Playhouse The Case To Look Like Something Was ...

    Happening To Resolve It But All The Time They Were Acting The Parts ..

    Knowing What The Outcome Would Be .........

    NO BODY NO CRIME .........

    Everyone Who Is Anyone On That F**kin Island Is Involved In This ....


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 04, 2007, 03:12:29 AM
    Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
    Hi Widget..  I havnt made it to bed yet.. checking emails  I have.. so behind.

    Here is one link Carpe sent in email and posted..  
    http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/binwhack1/dsssddssd.png

     I do recall wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy back when . when Sleuth posted.. you and I both saw a person in that photo.   Others didn't.
      IMO there WAS..  
     Hope all is well with you and your girls.
      My butt gotta get to bed..    :shock:


    This Photo Is Not The Same That We Saw That Day ...........

    THe Other Black & White Photo Is Much Clearer .........

    Its Almost Like The Plastic Bag Grabbed Natalees Image .........


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 04, 2007, 03:17:10 AM
    We Will Never Find Out What Happened To Natalee Until .......

    Someone Instills Forced Trauma On Those Involved .........

    We Will NEVER Get Any Results From The Government Of Aruba ........

    Until All Who Are Guilty Suffer The Same As Natalee Suffered ........


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: WidgetTheMidget on April 04, 2007, 03:18:01 AM
    Sweet Dreams ...............

     8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 04:10:04 AM
    SLIDE SHOW UPDATES THIS MORNING


    I think I am going to start burning to DVD

    for DVD/TELEVISION playback as well.

    I wanna see it on bigger, better, screens.



    >>>

    http://tinyurl.com/2u3Xnq


    'MORNIN' PEOPLE!

    Justice 4 Natalee.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 04:53:05 AM
    I do believe this will be Julia Renhoe's

    BIGGEST STORY OF THE YEAR!




    >>> A MUST READ


    http://tinyurl.com/yqth47


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Frijole on April 04, 2007, 07:03:26 AM
    Carpe,

     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
    Thanks!  I needed that.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Leslie on April 04, 2007, 07:35:59 AM
    Diario
    http://www.diarioaruba.com/
    Amigoe
    http://www.amigoe.com/english/
    BonDia
    http://www.cspnv.com/
    Solo di Pueblo
    http://www.solodipueblo.com/
    Aruba Today
    http://www.arubatoday.com/
    Translator:
    http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Leslie on April 04, 2007, 07:49:36 AM
    American Counsel Intervenes in the Micheal Saladin Case
    http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/April/3/A-3-4-07.pdf
    Page 5


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sharon on April 04, 2007, 08:06:24 AM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    I do believe this will be Julia Renhoe's

    BIGGEST STORY OF THE YEAR!




    >>> A MUST READ


    http://tinyurl.com/yqth47


     :lol:  :lol:

    Carpe --

    This old post from the SM front page that I am posting below, the conversation amongst J2K in the police van (about the gun, they will see the sh$t), Satish's statement about 'how's the girl' and the recent post from evilive all support your thoughts.

    The first time I saw the enlargement of the bag in a 'contrasted' view, I saw 'parts' :cry:

    "freycohen Says:

    January 11th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
    The Insider information that I heard that is it. Earlier on when the fish cage was stolen the the same night that Natalee was found missing. Dompig reported the incident to van der Statten, and the then police commissioner ignored the search for the protection of Joran. Joran at that time hided the big knife in his dad’s house. van der Statten told Beth that Natalee was dead and he saw the insider information in June. Joran chopped Natalee into two halves in the open sea and stuffed her body parts into the fish cage and weighted it down into the deep with some boating people. The big knifes were dumped into the landfill the following night. Natalee was killed at Sloot’s house. They never went to the lighthouse.
    "


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Peaches on April 04, 2007, 08:06:51 AM
    Good morning.

    Stormy night last night but I love sleeping when it's raining so it was all good.  Could have used a couple more hours of shut eye but the sun is coming up and it is going to be a great day.

    Working and lurking now that I'm caught up.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 08:08:28 AM
    Quote from: "Leslie"
    American Counsel Intervenes in the Micheal Saladin Case
    http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/April/3/A-3-4-07.pdf
    Page 5

    Thanks Leslie.  How happy does the guy look in the suit.

    I see there is an article with a picture of our favorite Aruban spokesperson Ruben Trapenberg on page 9.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 08:15:06 AM
    Quote from: "sharon"
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    I do believe this will be Julia Renhoe's

    BIGGEST STORY OF THE YEAR!




    >>> A MUST READ


    http://tinyurl.com/yqth47


     :lol:  :lol:

    Carpe --

    This old post from the SM front page that I am posting below, the conversation amongst J2K in the police van (about the gun, they will see the sh$t), Satish's statement about 'how's the girl' and the recent post from evilive all support your thoughts.

    The first time I saw the enlargement of the bag in a 'contrasted' view, I saw 'parts' :cry:

    "freycohen Says:

    January 11th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
    The Insider information that I heard that is it. Earlier on when the fish cage was stolen the the same night that Natalee was found missing. Dompig reported the incident to van der Statten, and the then police commissioner ignored the search for the protection of Joran. Joran at that time hided the big knife in his dad’s house. van der Statten told Beth that Natalee was dead and he saw the insider information in June. Joran chopped Natalee into two halves in the open sea and stuffed her body parts into the fish cage and weighted it down into the deep with some boating people. The big knifes were dumped into the landfill the following night. Natalee was killed at Sloot’s house. They never went to the lighthouse.
    "

    Why not dump the knives where her body was.  Why take them back.

    Let's just say this is true did you ever wonder if some of the fishermen helped Joran cut the body.  I don't mean to sound gross but that's what they do all day is cut up fish and they are use to seeing blood.  Is there where the ATM withdrawal comes into play.  Sort of a downpayment and more to come later.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 08:53:01 AM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    When Did They Really Decide That There Was NO Body...........

    When Paulus Told The Perps No Body No Crime Or .........

    When The Government Found The Broken Remains Of Natalee.........

    They Decided  NO BODY To Coincide With PVDS's Statement ........


    They Decided To Playhouse The Case To Look Like Something Was ...

    Happening To Resolve It But All The Time They Were Acting The Parts ..

    Knowing What The Outcome Would Be .........

    NO BODY NO CRIME .........

    Everyone Who Is Anyone On That F**kin Island Is Involved In This ....

    I agree Widget.  There are plenty of people who know what happened on that island.

    I think you hit the nail on the head when they found Natalee's body they made it coincide with Paulus statement.  Paulus knows this and this is why he was heard saying "good luck with that" in regards to finding Natalee's body.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:00:13 AM
    Morning!  :D

    If a lot of people know what happened to Natalee, it will not remain a secret forever. Who was it that said "A secret is only safe if just you and I know it, and one of us is dead?"


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:02:55 AM
    Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
    We Will Never Find Out What Happened To Natalee Until .......

    Someone Instills Forced Trauma On Those Involved .........

    We Will NEVER Get Any Results From The Government Of Aruba ........

    Until All Who Are Guilty Suffer The Same As Natalee Suffered ........

    I agree.

    Once fear is placed on the people who did this we will get results.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:04:45 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Morning!  :D

    If a lot of people know what happened to Natalee, it will not remain a secret forever. Who was it that said "A secret is only safe if just you and I know it, and one of us is dead?"

    Good Morning CBB I thought I was here talking to myself. :sunny:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 09:07:43 AM
    Well now I'm sure I'd like to know what else besides Joran's book notes was in those files. I hope they hurry up and give Sultan the police's phone number so they can move onto prosecution.Oh my :shock:

    brought over from HE:

    Sultan Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:00 am    
    FOB Distortions

    No-one threaten to release anything if someone did not back off. That is your twisting of words and a bald-face lie from you lurker.

    No-one is beating up your SAS hero JR, but at least let's have a little honesty here. He knew about this a year ago why did he wait until SandraK posted it to call police?

    If the police are investigating this, then give me he number and the detective's name and will help them speed up the case and move on to Prosecution.

    Moon, where is your proof someone was trying to make money off this. Total fabricated lie from you.

    I thought we were thur with this, but if you keep passing lies I will be more than happy to correct them.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:09:26 AM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Morning!  :D

    If a lot of people know what happened to Natalee, it will not remain a secret forever. Who was it that said "A secret is only safe if just you and I know it, and one of us is dead?"

    Good Morning CBB I thought I was here talking to myself. :sunny:


    That would be a habit you've acquired from a knack for addressing the most intelligent person in the room, San!  :wink:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:10:35 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    Morning!  :D

    If a lot of people know what happened to Natalee, it will not remain a secret forever. Who was it that said "A secret is only safe if just you and I know it, and one of us is dead?"

    Good Morning CBB I thought I was here talking to myself. :sunny:


    That would be a habit you've acquired from a knack for addressing the most intelligent person in the room, San!  :wink:  :lol:

     :lol:   How you feeling CBB.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: msmarple on April 04, 2007, 09:11:26 AM
    Morning Monkeys.

    There are several articles I want to check out in Diario but at the moment, the links are messed up - they go to the same story! I'll check later in the day.

    Back to work.  :?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:17:55 AM
    I'm ok, San. I'm getting closer to being able to wear shoes (plural)! Thanks for asking!

    I have read with jaw on the floor the recent saga of SandraK's posting and for the first time have taken a look at that site. I'm dumbfounded by the posts there! All I can figure is that the poor handicapped people that believed OJ was innocent gravitated there to "La-La Land" to continue their delusional existance.

    HOW on earth did the hatred for a family that has lost Natalee come about? I'm just amazed by it.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:20:38 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    I'm ok, San. I'm getting closer to being able to wear shoes (plural)! Thanks for asking!

    I have read with jaw on the floor the recent saga of SandraK's posting and for the first time have taken a look at that site. I'm dumbfounded by the posts there! All I can figure is that the poor handicapped people that believed OJ was innocent gravitated there to "La-La Land" to continue their delusional existance.

    HOW on earth did the hatred for a family that has lost Natalee come about? I'm just amazed by it.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That's how.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 09:22:12 AM
    snippit from Sultan's post-this doesn't sound good for Joran at all,and why are these posters holding what sounds to be incriminating evidence? :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

    If the police are investigating this, then give me he number and the detective's name and will help them speed up the case and move on to Prosecution.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:24:23 AM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    I'm ok, San. I'm getting closer to being able to wear shoes (plural)! Thanks for asking!

    I have read with jaw on the floor the recent saga of SandraK's posting and for the first time have taken a look at that site. I'm dumbfounded by the posts there! All I can figure is that the poor handicapped people that believed OJ was innocent gravitated there to "La-La Land" to continue their delusional existance.

    HOW on earth did the hatred for a family that has lost Natalee come about? I'm just amazed by it.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That's how.


    You're right. Well put.

    I haven't seen any comments about Jossey there. I'd bet he's about as popular as a toothache!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:25:46 AM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    snippit from Sultan's post-this doesn't sound good for Joran at all,and why are these posters holding what sounds to be incriminating evidence? :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

    If the police are investigating this, then give me he number and the detective's name and will help them speed up the case and move on to Prosecution.


    Thanks for posting Sultan's comments, GEL. Good question!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:25:47 AM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    snippit from Sultan's post-this doesn't sound good for Joran at all,and why are these posters holding what sounds to be incriminating evidence? :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

    If the police are investigating this, then give me he number and the detective's name and will help them speed up the case and move on to Prosecution.

    Dennis Jacobs. :roll:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:26:43 AM
    O/T

    Looks like the British Hostages will be released


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:26:59 AM
    O/T - AHMADINEJAD SAYS HE'LL 'PARDON' AND RELEASE 15 SEIZED BRITISH TROOPS AS A 'GIFT TO THE BRITISH PEOPLE'

    **Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more        


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:30:06 AM
    I;ve just followed links when they've been posted here to comments/posts, so I'm not familiar with the posters. Does anyone believe JK2 are guilty or is it a unified hallucination? :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:35:28 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    I;ve just followed links when they've been posted here to comments/posts, so I'm not familiar with the posters. Does anyone believe JK2 are guilty or is it a unified hallucination? :lol:


     :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 09:36:47 AM
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    I;ve just followed links when they've been posted here to comments/posts, so I'm not familiar with the posters. Does anyone believe JK2 are guilty or is it a unified hallucination? :lol:


    From what Sultan posted it sounds as if there is much more than book notes that were on Jorans PC files.Sultan has said that it was not about Natalee,but from what he just posted about moving onto prosecution there may be something that would make J2K or just Joran look guilty of something,IMO


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:39:27 AM
    Check back with you later; I've get to go to work! Have a good one, monkeys!

    ( I wish that the British soldiers were on the plane right now before tv comments pi$$ somebody off and they change their mind!)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: crazybabyborg on April 04, 2007, 09:42:30 AM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    I;ve just followed links when they've been posted here to comments/posts, so I'm not familiar with the posters. Does anyone believe JK2 are guilty or is it a unified hallucination? :lol:


    From what Sultan posted it sounds as if there is much more than book notes that were on Jorans PC files.Sultan has said that it was not about Natalee,but from what he just posted about moving onto prosecution there may be something that would make J2K or just Joran look guilty of something,IMO


    Thanks for the response, GEL. Yes, it sounds that way to me too!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 09:46:58 AM
    You're welcome CBB


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kimmy53 on April 04, 2007, 10:01:14 AM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
    I;ve just followed links when they've been posted here to comments/posts, so I'm not familiar with the posters. Does anyone believe JK2 are guilty or is it a unified hallucination? :lol:


    From what Sultan posted it sounds as if there is much more than book notes that were on Jorans PC files.Sultan has said that it was not about Natalee,but from what he just posted about moving onto prosecution there may be something that would make J2K or just Joran look guilty of something,IMO


    greeneyedlady:  Do you take it that moving on to prosecution means against J2K or J, or them on the other side, filing suit against someone for what is contained in the files?

    I don't visit those sites, I get SO p.o'd.  Also, how would Sultan know?  do you think this person is just b.s.ing?

    Thanks for keeping us up to date from the other site.


    Good morning monkeys!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 10:05:43 AM
    Kimmy, I'm really not sure here where Sultan is going.The other day he said the rest of what they had would cause the VDS's trouble.I'm just speculating it has something to do with Joran since it was his files.
    It could be tho if the VDS's press charges against whoever has the files???


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 10:08:37 AM
    SB,the answer is yes,and congrads to you and BOC for upholding the honor of the SEC.I believe you Carpe,and I think that Vito Corleone said,CBB.It stormed badly in many areas,and upset Kate.I have nothing pithy to say,except that Hercule knows the answer.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sharon on April 04, 2007, 10:20:00 AM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sharon"

     :lol:  :lol:

    Carpe --

    This old post from the SM front page that I am posting below, the conversation amongst J2K in the police van (about the gun, they will see the sh$t), Satish's statement about 'how's the girl' and the recent post from evilive all support your thoughts.

    The first time I saw the enlargement of the bag in a 'contrasted' view, I saw 'parts' :cry:

    "freycohen Says:

    January 11th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
    The Insider information that I heard that is it. Earlier on when the fish cage was stolen the the same night that Natalee was found missing. Dompig reported the incident to van der Statten, and the then police commissioner ignored the search for the protection of Joran. Joran at that time hided the big knife in his dad’s house. van der Statten told Beth that Natalee was dead and he saw the insider information in June. Joran chopped Natalee into two halves in the open sea and stuffed her body parts into the fish cage and weighted it down into the deep with some boating people. The big knifes were dumped into the landfill the following night. Natalee was killed at Sloot’s house. They never went to the lighthouse.
    "

    Why not dump the knives where her body was.  Why take them back.

    Let's just say this is true did you ever wonder if some of the fishermen helped Joran cut the body.  I don't mean to sound gross but that's what they do all day is cut up fish and they are use to seeing blood.  Is there where the ATM withdrawal comes into play.  Sort of a downpayment and more to come later.


    Hi San!

    I don't know that I believe that anyone that posts (other than the team of actual perps) knows with 100% accuracy what really happened.

    But I do think we get little 'snippets' of the actual horror story from people who know more than I do -- embellished with the speculation of the poster.

    It's possible a fisherman helped -- but I'd bet they would not be around any longer to dish. It's also possible one of the 'team of delinquents' is an experienced fisherman -- just like joran's brother is an experienced diver, and I beleive Sander or Koen is an experienced boat driver.

    And until Tim Miller pulls up the cage with Natalee's bones inside -- I'm not sure I believe that was her final resting place. Could be. Or maybe it was only one of the places. Personally -- Shango's 'light the fires' theme creeps me out.  :shock:

    I do believe that the body was moved several times. IMO -- more as a result of some political infighting than anything else. I think someone wanted to make sure we saw the van in front of Paulus' house. And of all the scenes to release of the casino -- the one with Paulus in it is NO coincidence. IMO.

    I don't have a good theory about who the ATM withdrawals went to -- but I do feel strongly they were payment for someone to forget what they knew or saw.

    And I strongly agree with you -- the Sloot sty should have been searched with a fine tooth comb. Inside and out.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 10:27:52 AM
    I refuse to read other sites.To upsetting.I do believe that she was moved a number of times.I think TES found one grave,and others found another.I do believe the police may have saved some remains,not the dutch police,the others for the future and because they want a resolution.I believe any dutch pimp life is at risk on that island after eveyrthing,because they have inflicted the suffering on the average person.I also think money laundering is the bigger problem,along with porn.CBB,I am glad you are better,the chicks are good.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 10:34:37 AM
    Quote from: "sharon"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "sharon"

     :lol:  :lol:

    Carpe --

    This old post from the SM front page that I am posting below, the conversation amongst J2K in the police van (about the gun, they will see the sh$t), Satish's statement about 'how's the girl' and the recent post from evilive all support your thoughts.

    The first time I saw the enlargement of the bag in a 'contrasted' view, I saw 'parts' :cry:

    "freycohen Says:

    January 11th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
    The Insider information that I heard that is it. Earlier on when the fish cage was stolen the the same night that Natalee was found missing. Dompig reported the incident to van der Statten, and the then police commissioner ignored the search for the protection of Joran. Joran at that time hided the big knife in his dad’s house. van der Statten told Beth that Natalee was dead and he saw the insider information in June. Joran chopped Natalee into two halves in the open sea and stuffed her body parts into the fish cage and weighted it down into the deep with some boating people. The big knifes were dumped into the landfill the following night. Natalee was killed at Sloot’s house. They never went to the lighthouse.
    "

    Why not dump the knives where her body was.  Why take them back.

    Let's just say this is true did you ever wonder if some of the fishermen helped Joran cut the body.  I don't mean to sound gross but that's what they do all day is cut up fish and they are use to seeing blood.  Is there where the ATM withdrawal comes into play.  Sort of a downpayment and more to come later.


    Hi San!

    I don't know that I believe that anyone that posts (other than the team of actual perps) knows with 100% accuracy what really happened.

    But I do think we get little 'snippets' of the actual horror story from people who know more than I do -- embellished with the speculation of the poster.

    It's possible a fisherman helped -- but I'd bet they would not be around any longer to dish. It's also possible one of the 'team of delinquents' is an experienced fisherman -- just like joran's brother is an experienced diver, and I beleive Sander or Koen is an experienced boat driver.

    And until Tim Miller pulls up the cage with Natalee's bones inside -- I'm not sure I believe that was her final resting place. Could be. Or maybe it was only one of the places. Personally -- Shango's 'light the fires' theme creeps me out.  :shock:

    I do believe that the body was moved several times. IMO -- more as a result of some political infighting than anything else. I think someone wanted to make sure we saw the van in front of Paulus' house. And of all the scenes to release of the casino -- the one with Paulus in it is NO coincidence. IMO.

    I don't have a good theory about who the ATM withdrawals went to -- but I do feel strongly they were payment for someone to forget what they knew or saw.

    And I strongly agree with you -- the Sloot sty should have been searched with a fine tooth comb. Inside and out.

    Thanks Sharon.

    If they searched the VDS residence today I believe they would still find Natalee's blood there.  The only way they will not find her blood is if they knocked down Joran's apartment and rebuilt it.  Just like they did the new cement work in the yard.  They are hiding something.

    I agree with you regarding Sander and Koen.  The only difference between them is that Koen is weak and Sander is cold blooded.  JMO.  Sander was the only one out of the whole group to have the nerve to show up at prison when Joran was released and cheer for his psycho friend while the others hid.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 10:39:33 AM
    Morning monkeys.  Shango meter went ding ding and I had to check in. LOL

    Regarding the meltdown at the Darkside...wonder if Joran's notes contained incriminating evidence pointing to our Kalpoe brothers instead.  Joran has often pointed his finger in their direction.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 10:52:46 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Morning monkeys.  Shango meter went ding ding and I had to check in. LOL

    Regarding the meltdown at the Darkside...wonder if Joran's notes contained incriminating evidence pointing to our Kalpoe brothers instead.  Joran has often pointed his finger in their direction.

    Lala's you just made me think what if Joran's notes had GVC's name in them.  They have tried very hard not to connect the two.  What if these notes prove there is a connection between the two.

    I can hear Joe Tacopina now:

    "Oh did I said they didn't know each other"

    Yes Joe they know eachother because they are both white dutchboy drug dealers.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 10:54:19 AM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    I refuse to read other sites.To upsetting.I do believe that she was moved a number of times.I think TES found one grave,and others found another.I do believe the police may have saved some remains,not the dutch police,the others for the future and because they want a resolution.I believe any dutch pimp life is at risk on that island after eveyrthing,because they have inflicted the suffering on the average person.I also think money laundering is the bigger problem,along with porn.CBB,I am glad you are better,the chicks are good.CAT


    You give ALE too much credit.  I don't think they intended to do anything.  Too many dirty hands, so to speak.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 10:54:40 AM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Morning monkeys.  Shango meter went ding ding and I had to check in. LOL

    Regarding the meltdown at the Darkside...wonder if Joran's notes contained incriminating evidence pointing to our Kalpoe brothers instead.  Joran has often pointed his finger in their direction.

    Lala's you just made me think what if Joran's notes had GVC's name in them.  They have tried very hard not to connect the two.  What if these notes prove there is a connection between the two.

    I can hear Joe Tacopina now:

    "Oh did I said they didn't know each other"

    Yes Joe they know eachother because they are both white dutchboy drug dealers.

    and Rapists.

    There was a power struggle between Joran and GVC because each of their fathers had power on the island.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 10:55:32 AM
    And the question that is begging to be asked is:  "Why?"


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kimmy53 on April 04, 2007, 10:56:56 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Morning monkeys.  Shango meter went ding ding and I had to check in. LOL

    Regarding the meltdown at the Darkside...wonder if Joran's notes contained incriminating evidence pointing to our Kalpoe brothers instead.  Joran has often pointed his finger in their direction.


    Hi Lala's!!!  Ya know, it is possible.  I have always thought that If Joran felt he could pin the whole thing on 2K he would have done so a long time ago.  The only thing that has saved 2K (IMO) is there is some type of evidence they either have, or have access to that they could use to turn the tables on the VDS'- But they would only use that evidence if they have to, to save themselves or to take someone else down with them.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 10:59:15 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    And the question that is begging to be asked is:  "Why?"

    Why what?  Are you asking me or someone else.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 11:06:55 AM
    Quote from: "Kimmy53"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Morning monkeys.  Shango meter went ding ding and I had to check in. LOL

    Regarding the meltdown at the Darkside...wonder if Joran's notes contained incriminating evidence pointing to our Kalpoe brothers instead.  Joran has often pointed his finger in their direction.


    Hi Lala's!!!  Ya know, it is possible.  I have always thought that If Joran felt he could pin the whole thing on 2K he would have done so a long time ago.  The only thing that has saved 2K (IMO) is there is some type of evidence they either have, or have access to that they could use to turn the tables on the VDS'- But they would only use that evidence if they have to, to save themselves or to take someone else down with them.


    I agree Kimmy.  I believe the 2K's have pictures or a video.  I believe it was either Deepak or Satish that were returning a camera to Freddy.  Deepak was smart enough to make a copy.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Peaches on April 04, 2007, 11:07:35 AM
    Perhaps the "other stuff" indicates that the sporter has a big problem with violence or porn (go ahead, surprise me!) or both.  

    I think there probably IS more stuff from his pc out there.  Who cares?  He's a lying POS.  What makes anyone think his "personal" notes or diary or whatever he calls that pile contain the truth?  I doubt seriously that he is well acquainted enough with the truth to recognize it (unless and until the truth sticks it to him).

    I don't care how whoever got whatever they got from his precious computer.  He should have studied up on file-sharing first.  Tuff crap.

    I agree there are more people down there who know exactly what went on that night and many other nights.  Someday, it will all come out.  

    It always does.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 11:12:38 AM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    And the question that is begging to be asked is:  "Why?"

    Why what?  Are you asking me or someone else.


    Sorry.  I meant why is GVC being guarded so closely?  What is the connection?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 11:19:55 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    And the question that is begging to be asked is:  "Why?"

    Why what?  Are you asking me or someone else.


    Sorry.  I meant why is GVC being guarded so closely?  What is the connection?

    His sister is a cop on the ALE
    His father is a former cop in the Netherlands
    His father owns the security business on Aruba
    His father might have info on others that were involved and he could prove it
    It was his father that is seen on the video at the painted rocks and might have evidence that he collected from there to save his son
    Why is there no security video available of the three suspects.  Because his father made them go away
    His father is probably friends with Van der Straten

    Is that enough Lala's or do you want more :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 11:21:52 AM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    And the question that is begging to be asked is:  "Why?"

    Why what?  Are you asking me or someone else.


    Sorry.  I meant why is GVC being guarded so closely?  What is the connection?

    His sister is a cop on the ALE
    His father is a former cop in the Netherlands
    His father owns the security business on Aruba
    His father might have info on others that were involved and he could prove it
    It was his father that is seen on the video at the painted rocks and might have evidence that he collected from there to save his son
    Why is there no security video available of the three suspects.  Because his father made them go away
    His father is probably friends with Van der Straten

    Is that enough Lala's or do you want more :lol:

    The connection is drugs Lala's.  He is in the ring as the three suspects.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 11:24:54 AM
    For a whole year they held two peoples names from the media.  Why bring Guido and GVC in a year later.  There was no need to release Guido's name because they already questioned him in early June.  That was KJ way of telling the world these two are also involved in what happened to Natalee.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 11:45:50 AM
    Where in the heck is Klaas?
    I may need some protection afterwhile. :D  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 11:47:22 AM
    Well darn it!  San, I already knew that.  I was just thinking out loud and forgot to say so.  :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 11:48:00 AM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Where in the heck is Klaas?
    I may need some protection afterwhile. :D  :wink:


    I'm watching, LOLOL  :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 11:49:34 AM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    And the question that is begging to be asked is:  "Why?"

    Why what?  Are you asking me or someone else.


    Sorry.  I meant why is GVC being guarded so closely?  What is the connection?

    He is part of the group Lala's.  He is a young man that can't hold a job down.  Drugs are an easy way to make money for him.  Like Cat says don't forget GVC.  GVC could have been the one who administered the drug to Natalee.

    GVC is well protected just like Freddy, Guido and Koen are.  He is in that same category.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 11:51:33 AM
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/hhhhhh.png)

    ----
     :lol:

    http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/elsiecowoiii.jpg


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 11:57:55 AM
    Yes,GVC is in deep.Today is the anniversary of a nightmare,in 1974,of the largest and most horrible tornado outbreak in the USA.I have bad memories of that day and many people in 13 states do ,also.I feel betraying your oath like the vc is treason.Everything mentioned is true.I believe it was said they had forensic evidence against gvc.He groped her first and he was the drug maker.Freddy is scum,the lowest form.I hope I haven't been to blunt.Meow,Spartecus Cat


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 11:57:57 AM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Where in the heck is Klaas?
    I may need some protection afterwhile. :D  :wink:


    I'm watching, LOLOL  :lol:  :lol:


    You are watching this and not helping me? :shock:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 11:58:54 AM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Where in the heck is Klaas?
    I may need some protection afterwhile. :D  :wink:


    I'm watching, LOLOL  :lol:  :lol:


    You are watching this and not helping me? :shock:  :lol:


    Sorry, but I refuse to post there.  It is entertaining to watch while on my 2nd cup of coffee though, LOL  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 12:01:06 PM
    Huh,where.in I will not post there even for green eggs and ham,Sam.Of course the k2's have something,they are alive aren't they.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 12:02:01 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Where in the heck is Klaas?
    I may need some protection afterwhile. :D  :wink:


    I'm watching, LOLOL  :lol:  :lol:


    You are watching this and not helping me? :shock:  :lol:


    Sorry, but I refuse to post there.  It is entertaining to watch while on my 2nd cup of coffee though, LOL  :lol:


    Well just as long as I can run back here if the going gets tough...LOL
    What's so bad is they come out in numbers most of the time. :twisted:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 12:02:05 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    Huh,where.in I will not post there even for green eggs and ham,Sam.Of course the k2's have something,they are alive aren't they.CAT


    GEL is fighting the good fight at RU right now  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 12:05:06 PM
    Strange that no one from FOB has replied to Sultan's post,don't ya think?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 12:05:57 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Strange that no one from FOB has replied to Sultan's post,don't ya think?


    Which post of Sultan's?  The one implying more bad stuff on Joran's hard drive?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 12:08:46 PM
    This one Klaas-He posted it straight to HE cause he knew it would end up there anyway :lol:

    Sultan Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:00 am    
    FOB Distortions

    No-one threaten to release anything if someone did not back off. That is your twisting of words and a bald-face lie from you lurker.

    No-one is beating up your SAS hero JR, but at least let's have a little honesty here. He knew about this a year ago why did he wait until SandraK posted it to call police?

    If the police are investigating this, then give me he number and the detective's name and will help them speed up the case and move on to Prosecution.

    Moon, where is your proof someone was trying to make money off this. Total fabricated lie from you.

    I thought we were thur with this, but if you keep passing lies I will be more than happy to correct them.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 12:10:08 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    This one Klaas-He posted it straight to HE cause he knew it would end up there anyway :lol:

    Sultan Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:00 am    
    FOB Distortions

    No-one threaten to release anything if someone did not back off. That is your twisting of words and a bald-face lie from you lurker.

    No-one is beating up your SAS hero JR, but at least let's have a little honesty here. He knew about this a year ago why did he wait until SandraK posted it to call police?

    If the police are investigating this, then give me he number and the detective's name and will help them speed up the case and move on to Prosecution.

    Moon, where is your proof someone was trying to make money off this. Total fabricated lie from you.

    I thought we were thur with this, but if you keep passing lies I will be more than happy to correct them.


    No doubt they are formulating their spin in their private forum area right now.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 12:12:00 PM
    I sure would like to be a fly on the wall right now(as much I detest flies too! :lol: )


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:12:58 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    Yes,GVC is in deep.Today is the anniversary of a nightmare,in 1974,of the largest and most horrible tornado outbreak in the USA.I have bad memories of that day and many people in 13 states do ,also.I feel betraying your oath like the vc is treason.Everything mentioned is true.I believe it was said they had forensic evidence against gvc.He groped her first and he was the drug maker.Freddy is scum,the lowest form.I hope I haven't been to blunt.Meow,Spartecus Cat


    I recall the tornado outbreak vividly.  I watched it tear through a neighboring town as I sat on a small hillside in my car.  The destruction was unbelievable.  It continued into the night time hours and we were without power for hours.  I was a senior in high school and it was on a Wednesday night, just as today.  I know, because I was at church when it first became bad and they let us out to get home.  I was sitting with my best friend in front of their house watching it as it passed through the area.  That was my second up close and personal encounter with a tornado and it's destruction.  When I arrived at school the next morning, I was assigned to sit with a class because the teacher's house had been destroyed by the tornado.  That teacher later transferred to the elementary school and was my child's 5th grade teacher.  My best friend?  Well, my daughter and her daughter are planning to share an apartment this fall.  Small world...indeed.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:15:44 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    Huh,where.in I will not post there even for green eggs and ham,Sam.Of course the k2's have something,they are alive aren't they.CAT


    If Kalpoes were the only ones involved this entire case would have been over in June 2005.  They have the goods on Joran and the others.  As Robots says, BET THE FARM


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:17:53 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    This one Klaas-He posted it straight to HE cause he knew it would end up there anyway :lol:

    Sultan Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:00 am    
    FOB Distortions

    No-one threaten to release anything if someone did not back off. That is your twisting of words and a bald-face lie from you lurker.

    No-one is beating up your SAS hero JR, but at least let's have a little honesty here. He knew about this a year ago why did he wait until SandraK posted it to call police?

    If the police are investigating this, then give me he number and the detective's name and will help them speed up the case and move on to Prosecution.

    Moon, where is your proof someone was trying to make money off this. Total fabricated lie from you.

    I thought we were thur with this, but if you keep passing lies I will be more than happy to correct them.


    I swear I have been reading along with all this stuff, but the reason has eluded me at this time.  What is Sultan talking about?  Release what?  What money? TIA


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 12:20:09 PM
    Lala's - Sulton is talking about the "notes" SandraK posted and FOB acting as if they didn't know about it.  Sulton is claiming that JR at FOB has known about it for a year.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 12:21:33 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Lala's - Sulton is talking about the "notes" SandraK posted and FOB acting as if they didn't know about it.  Sulton is claiming that JR at FOB has known about it for a year.


    Is that our own little Bondia?  JR mean?   :roll:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 12:22:54 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Lala's - Sulton is talking about the "notes" SandraK posted and FOB acting as if they didn't know about it.  Sulton is claiming that JR at FOB has known about it for a year.


    Is that our own little Bondia?  JR mean?   :roll:


    No, we are talking about JR Dutch Attorney at FOB, not Julia Renfrobitch :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 12:24:42 PM
    GEL - you were correct about Vlad  :twisted:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:25:02 PM
    LOL

    Klaas!


    >Ren-fwo


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:29:40 PM
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/uuhujjjjjjjj.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kimmy53 on April 04, 2007, 12:41:55 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/uuhujjjjjjjj.jpg)


    Gosh carpe - I wish you'd warn us before you post these kind of pics.  It is close to lunch time and I am feeling mighty queeeezy now.

    Where is the barf emoticon when we need it??? :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:42:07 PM
    (http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/arubapictures1/CHUCKwsnake.png)




     8)  8)  8)

    DUUUUUUDE!!!!! :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:43:03 PM
    Sorry Kim...

    That last one should cheer ya up.  :P


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 12:43:45 PM
    Quote from: "Kimmy53"
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/uuhujjjjjjjj.jpg)


    Gosh carpe - I wish you'd warn us before you post these kind of pics.  It is close to lunch time and I am feeling mighty queeeezy now.

    Where is the barf emoticon when we need it??? :lol:  :lol:

    That picture says I am evil.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 12:46:00 PM
    Like mother, like INCUBUS!!!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Kimmy53 on April 04, 2007, 12:53:39 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Sorry Kim...

    That last one should cheer ya up.  :P


    ROFLMAO - It most certainly did.... :lol:  :smt119


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 12:55:37 PM
    Just posted by Evilive on the front page of SM:

    Let’s make an assumption….now don’t get pi$$ed at me; I’m trying to walk through this scenario.
    Natalee willingly got into the car with Joran.
    She heard there was another party and she didn’t want her vacation to end yet. She wanted to have sex with as many men as she could.
    She also did drugs the night she disappeared.
    OK: Natalee did drugs that night and she had sex with numerous males.
    This was all consensual?
    What kind of drugs would she use and where would she have gotten them?
    Where could Joran get enough males to satisfy her in such short notice?
    Where would Joran have taken Natalee?
    If all this was consensual and instigated by Natalee; then what happened?
    If she was the one who wanted all this and it became apparent that she was physically in trouble, then why didn’t Joran call the police or the EMTs?
    Or for that matter: if she had died while in their presence why not drop her off at some remote area of the beach or near her hotel?
    Why did she just disappear?
    Why all the lies?
    Why all the different stories?
    Why would Paulus sweat?
    Why would Jan say; “How can I do this to my best friend’s son?
    Why would Dennis Jacobs tell Dave to go have a beer?
    Why not say it was just an accident?
    Why is there no evidence that Natalee was ever in Deepak’s car?
    Why not even a solitary hair sample.
    Why does Deepak need to clean his car out at 3 o’clock in the morning?
    Why not give the body back to the parents?
    Why can Anita describe Natalee’s underwear?
    Why can’t the VDS property ever be searched?
    Why Shango?
    Why the death of a police officer associated with the case?
    Why a cement worker who did work at the VDS place is crucified?
    Why the death of a caretaker and blamed on wife?
    Why the death of a motorcycle repair man?
    (The ALE uses Harley Davidsons…).
    IF Joran and Paulus et al are innocent then WHY WHY WHY?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 01:04:53 PM
    Interesting list of questions by Evilive, Klaasend.

    I have one, myself.  Was looking at the site meter by location, and saw one that entered like this:

    file:///D:/websites/Scared%20Monkeys

    I've cut it down, as it was much longer, and was not able to open to the site, probably because it says file:///D:/  instead of Http://www.scared, etc.  Is this due to the person's browser?  Just curious if anyone can teach me something technical today....it was someone in Aruba, btw.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: friend of monkeys on April 04, 2007, 01:08:32 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    Yes,GVC is in deep.Today is the anniversary of a nightmare,in 1974,of the largest and most horrible tornado outbreak in the USA.I have bad memories of that day and many people in 13 states do ,also.I feel betraying your oath like the vc is treason.Everything mentioned is true.I believe it was said they had forensic evidence against gvc.He groped her first and he was the drug maker.Freddy is scum,the lowest form.I hope I haven't been to blunt.Meow,Spartecus Cat



    U sum it up nicely Cat

    poppin in to say hi...catch up...ty monkeys :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 01:08:57 PM
    I told you guys the question of the day was WHY??  

    And San made fun of me.  :roll:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 01:10:22 PM
    hiya FOM!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 01:12:19 PM
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    I told you guys the question of the day was WHY??  

    And San made fun of me.  :roll:


     :lol:  :cry:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Lala'sMom on April 04, 2007, 01:13:45 PM
    Off to see the wizard of work.  Check in later and see if the WHY has been answered.  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 01:15:08 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
    I told you guys the question of the day was WHY??  

    And San made fun of me.  :roll:


     :lol:  :cry:


    Crocodile tears, San.   :P  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 01:15:34 PM
    Here is one from my truth is stranger
    than fiction series.


    Ren-hoe vs. Lady Klingon!

    We should frame it & send it to her. --Signed by Jug.

     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/RETERTE.png)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:15:38 PM
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Interesting list of questions by Evilive, Klaasend.

    I have one, myself.  Was looking at the site meter by location, and saw one that entered like this:

    file:///D:/websites/Scared%20Monkeys

    I've cut it down, as it was much longer, and was not able to open to the site, probably because it says file:///D:/  instead of Http://www.scared, etc.  Is this due to the person's browser?  Just curious if anyone can teach me something technical today....it was someone in Aruba, btw.

    I saw that yesterday as well and wondered about it.  Think I'll ask Tom.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 01:15:44 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Just posted by Evilive on the front page of SM:

    Let’s make an assumption….now don’t get pi$$ed at me; I’m trying to walk through this scenario.
    Natalee willingly got into the car with Joran.
    She heard there was another party and she didn’t want her vacation to end yet. She wanted to have sex with as many men as she could.
    She also did drugs the night she disappeared.
    OK: Natalee did drugs that night and she had sex with numerous males.
    This was all consensual?
    What kind of drugs would she use and where would she have gotten them?
    Where could Joran get enough males to satisfy her in such short notice?
    Where would Joran have taken Natalee?
    If all this was consensual and instigated by Natalee; then what happened?
    If she was the one who wanted all this and it became apparent that she was physically in trouble, then why didn’t Joran call the police or the EMTs?
    Or for that matter: if she had died while in their presence why not drop her off at some remote area of the beach or near her hotel?
    Why did she just disappear?
    Why all the lies?
    Why all the different stories?
    Why would Paulus sweat?
    Why would Jan say; “How can I do this to my best friend’s son?
    Why would Dennis Jacobs tell Dave to go have a beer?
    Why not say it was just an accident?
    Why is there no evidence that Natalee was ever in Deepak’s car?
    Why not even a solitary hair sample.
    Why does Deepak need to clean his car out at 3 o’clock in the morning?
    Why not give the body back to the parents?
    Why can Anita describe Natalee’s underwear?
    Why can’t the VDS property ever be searched?
    Why Shango?
    Why the death of a police officer associated with the case?
    Why a cement worker who did work at the VDS place is crucified?

    Why the death of a caretaker and blamed on wife?
    Why the death of a motorcycle repair man?
    (The ALE uses Harley Davidsons…).
    IF Joran and Paulus et al are innocent then WHY WHY WHY?

    I don't remember these two.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 01:16:22 PM
    later lalas!!! :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 01:16:58 PM
    me either, san. who is evilive?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: JusticeforNatalee on April 04, 2007, 01:17:29 PM
    Corrupt Aruban Police and Dutch Judges Revealed:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=599


    BTW, Anna, that pic of the house falling on the wicked witch was priceless!

    {{edit - we have it posted here too, scroll down to the bottom of the thread}}


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 01:17:48 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Interesting list of questions by Evilive, Klaasend.

    I have one, myself.  Was looking at the site meter by location, and saw one that entered like this:

    file:///D:/websites/Scared%20Monkeys

    I've cut it down, as it was much longer, and was not able to open to the site, probably because it says file:///D:/  instead of Http://www.scared, etc.  Is this due to the person's browser?  Just curious if anyone can teach me something technical today....it was someone in Aruba, btw.

    I saw that yesterday as well and wondered about it.  Think I'll ask Tom.


    I just did a serch using the fill:///D: and found some links...they seem to be Lycos, but are personal sites or link to pdf files, etc.  If Tom knows, that would be great.  Thanks.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 01:19:38 PM
    yes,lala's mom.i remember my uncle church and town gone.i remember putting red lipstick on some heads as part of triage,not fun.i met one girl who got the red mark and made it.enough good stuff.i notice freddy and the k2's are from the same continent,hint,hint,maybe this where their protection comes from.Movies from sa.CAT   I also think innocent guards tossed to the jail might have a score or two with some dutch boys.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 01:25:56 PM
    klaas,

    which team is evilive normally play for? :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:29:10 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    klaas,

    which team is evilive normally play for? :wink:

    If what I think is correct, Evilive has posted in the forum using a different nickname.  He/she would be on Natalee's side.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:31:17 PM
    Here is Tom's explaination on the sitemeter thing:

    the link from sitemeter is someone has the page  saved on their computer in Aruba and they are pulling an image from the site


    So, someone in Aruba has a file saved on their computer with a link to SM.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 01:33:00 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - you were correct about Vlad  :twisted:



    I couldn't help it-that poster gives me the willies. :twisted:  :twisted:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:34:09 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - you were correct about Vlad  :twisted:



    I couldn't help it-that poster gives me the willies. :twisted:  :twisted:


    Did you see the pdf file he posted?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 01:34:40 PM
    ty!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 04, 2007, 01:36:46 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    This one Klaas-He posted it straight to HE cause he knew it would end up there anyway :lol:

    Sultan Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:00 am    
    FOB Distortions

    No-one threaten to release anything if someone did not back off. That is your twisting of words and a bald-face lie from you lurker.

    No-one is beating up your SAS hero JR, but at least let's have a little honesty here. He knew about this a year ago why did he wait until SandraK posted it to call police?

    If the police are investigating this, then give me he number and the detective's name and will help them speed up the case and move on to Prosecution.

    Moon, where is your proof someone was trying to make money off this. Total fabricated lie from you.

    I thought we were thur with this, but if you keep passing lies I will be more than happy to correct them.



    Good Afternoon, Monkeys,

    Survived the storms but they were pretty bad.   :shock: Have not made a good damage assessment yet but think only a few trees far from house lost.  All pups OK!   :D


    GEL<
    I think Sultan means move on the to the prosecution of whomever they are accusing of hacking Joran's computer and stealing his notes, not the case of Natalee's disappearance.

    Surely the hacking of Joran's computer is a much more serious crime and one that they should address immediately, right?  And I think they are hoping to do this prosecution in this country where actual LE exists.  They are dreaming!  No one is going to care one flip about some pimp having his hard drive scoped.  Just because it  is their Precious does not make it the crime of the century they seem to all want it to be.  No one is going to do one thing about any of that!  

    These people are so sick, where to begin!!

    And how do they know if something applies to Natalee's disappearance or not unless they are licensed psychiatrists?  Or have complete access to the entire dossier--oh, wait, Julia always claimed that she did have access, didn't she?

    Sounds like the ones needing prosecuted are the ones holding back this evidence as it should have been turned over to the authorities a year ago!

    Oh, again, wait!  We have no authorities in Aruba, just ALE who would only make it all disappear for Paulus just as they have every other shred of evidence they have gotten their dirty hands on.

    And those WHY questions are quite good as they do point out that a willing participant would not need to be made to disappear.

    Dompig told us the body was moved and stated it as a matter of fact.  I believe it was MF who explained this callous and crass discussion as once a person is dead their body just becomes a thing.  That is why they take photos and gawk.  Every culture no matter how primitive shows respect for the dead.  This is a whopper of a clue we are not dealing with normal people and certainly not ones normal people would care to spend their vacation time among.  They are more primitive in many ways than those labeled as such.  

     :evil:

    Caught up reading and must work so working and lurking in breaks.

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 01:38:29 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - you were correct about Vlad  :twisted:



    I couldn't help it-that poster gives me the willies. :twisted:  :twisted:


    Did you see the pdf file he posted?


    No-I didn't and wouldn't open that stuff it may have a trojan or virus in it :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 01:41:09 PM
    Anna-in Sultan's posts from the other day he said what else was in those files would cause the VDS's trouble-you don't think there's any incriminating stuff on Joran in them?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:46:15 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - you were correct about Vlad  :twisted:



    I couldn't help it-that poster gives me the willies. :twisted:  :twisted:


    Did you see the pdf file he posted?


    No-I didn't and wouldn't open that stuff it may have a trojan or virus in it :shock:


    This was on the PDF file:

    http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/PostVlad.jpg


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:46:40 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Anna-in Sultan's posts from the other day he said what else was in those files would cause the VDS's trouble-you don't think there's any incriminating stuff on Joran in them?


    I do  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 01:50:01 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - you were correct about Vlad  :twisted:



    I couldn't help it-that poster gives me the willies. :twisted:  :twisted:


    Did you see the pdf file he posted?


    No-I didn't and wouldn't open that stuff it may have a trojan or virus in it :shock:


    This was on the PDF file:

    http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/PostVlad.jpg


    Well that's just cruel and disgusting,more disgusting than his posts are. :(


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 04, 2007, 01:50:19 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Anna-in Sultan's posts from the other day he said what else was in those files would cause the VDS's trouble-you don't think there's any incriminating stuff on Joran in them?


    Probably there is.  I would like to see those.  They sound much more interesting than his discussion of his cheese sandwich for while I found that absolutely fascinating (NOT!   :roll: ) the other files must surely be of far, far more interest to have JR's panties in such a wad he thinks he can get people put in jail for taking the files.

    But their insistence that they have nothing to do with Natalee could be very wrong as they could go to a pattern of behavior or proclivity or deviation or the commission of other crimes, etc.  

    What I am trying to say I guess is that it seems far more of a crime to be withholding this information that publishing it.  I think that by trying to protect Joran and failing to give whatever they have all had for over a year, that is a more serious "crime" than the one who posted the Diary.

    If they have known about "disturbing" or whatever they call them files for over a year and failed to provide the information, no matter if they THINK it has nothing to do with any ongoing investigation, it is an obstruction of justice, yet again.

    Any files out of the normal range for any reason should have long ago been given to the authorities, hacked, stolen or whatever.  

    Make any sense to anybody or am I the one out in left field on this?

    .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 01:50:32 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Here is Tom's explaination on the sitemeter thing:

    the link from sitemeter is someone has the page  saved on their computer in Aruba and they are pulling an image from the site


    So, someone in Aruba has a file saved on their computer with a link to SM.


    Thank you, Klaas & Tom.  That's what I was thinking after my little search & discovery session.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:51:54 PM
    GEL - yes, he's a POS


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:52:09 PM
    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/threadlock.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 01:52:52 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - yes, he's a POS


    Is this Vlad person posting on RU?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 01:53:31 PM
    I should have added FOB, as well, in my question.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 01:54:53 PM
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - yes, he's a POS


    Is this Vlad person posting on RU?

    RU mostly.  A very ugly person, IMO


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 01:55:09 PM
    Quote from: "Anna"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Anna-in Sultan's posts from the other day he said what else was in those files would cause the VDS's trouble-you don't think there's any incriminating stuff on Joran in them?


    Probably there is.  I would like to see those.  They sound much more interesting than his discussion of his cheese sandwich for while I found that absolutely fascinating (NOT!   :roll: ) the other files must surely be of far, far more interest to have JR's panties in such a wad he thinks he can get people put in jail for taking the files.

    But their insistence that they have nothing to do with Natalee could be very wrong as they could go to a pattern of behavior or proclivity or deviation or the commission of other crimes, etc.  

    What I am trying to say I guess is that it seems far more of a crime to be withholding this information that publishing it.  I think that by trying to protect Joran and failing to give whatever they have all had for over a year, that is a more serious "crime" than the one who posted the Diary.

    If they have known about "disturbing" or whatever they call them files for over a year and failed to provide the information, no matter if they THINK it has nothing to do with any ongoing investigation, it is an obstruction of justice, yet again.

    Any files out of the normal range for any reason should have long ago been given to the authorities, hacked, stolen or whatever.  

    Make any sense to anybody or am I the one out in left field on this?

    .


    I agree Anna and have been thinking and saying I believe this info or images may just be what could be tied into Natalee's disappearence also.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 01:57:35 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - yes, he's a POS


    Is this Vlad person posting on RU?

    RU mostly.  A very ugly person, IMO


    Just seeing that pdf file was enough for me.   :puker:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 02:01:45 PM
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - yes, he's a POS


    Is this Vlad person posting on RU?

    RU mostly.  A very ugly person, IMO


    Just seeing that pdf file was enough for me.   :puker:


    That poster has been evil and ugly since the 1st time he posted.He certainly came with a Hate-Natalee/Beth-Agenda,IMO


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 02:05:06 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - yes, he's a POS


    Is this Vlad person posting on RU?

    RU mostly.  A very ugly person, IMO



    E X T R E M E L Y


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: friend of monkeys on April 04, 2007, 02:36:26 PM
    Hey Carpe--Klass--2NJ et all  


    yikes.....i don't know how  u monkeys  go all those other sites and do not get diseases.   This is the only zoo i want to be in.  Glad u r on top of things tho....


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 02:37:45 PM
    I don't look at things that curdle milk,before I lap it.I see the Iranians are still at it.I thought a Trojan was something used to protect oneself,some pvds should have used more often.CAT the crudity


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Anna on April 04, 2007, 02:37:47 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    [
    I agree Anna and have been thinking and saying I believe this info or images may just be what could be tied into Natalee's disappearence also.


    They are claiming there is NO connection to Natalee but how can they possibly know this for a fact?  It could go to something as vague as intent or what he might have had in mind for Natalee, etc. or a pettern of behavior.  Could be more of those sick photoshopped pictures he had cooked up.  I wonder if he was planning to use those in his book or what!

    And what I also wonder is do the Dutch authorities have his computer under surviellence and do they have this information already?  There was a time when they would have but these days I seriously doubt it.  Sadly like most of the EU, they seem overwhelmed at just keeping their populations from rioting.

    So I take their claim of no connection to Natalee to mean there is not one that is glaringly obvious.  Otherwise, they would look pretty stupid.

    I hope this falls under the laws of this country where knowing about something for a year that might or might not be relevant and not telling is considered obstruction.  That seems to be a very weak link in Dutch law.  No way to call the cops on somebody in this country without it falling under our laws, either.   :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 02:39:37 PM
    I agree FOM.I have to change litter after those sites are seen by me.cat


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 02:41:13 PM
    Quote from: "friend of monkeys"
    Hey Carpe--Klass--2NJ et all  


    yikes.....i don't know how  u monkeys  go all those other sites and do not get diseases.   This is the only zoo i want to be in.  Glad u r on top of things tho....


    Hey FOM!


    You're probably safer that way.. those other places can get pretty ugly.  8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 02:41:59 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    I agree FOM.I have to change litter after those sites are seen by me.cat



     :D  :D  :D

    "That is the truth!"


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: friend of monkeys on April 04, 2007, 02:46:04 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Quote from: "Cat"
    I agree FOM.I have to change litter after those sites are seen by me.cat



     :D  :D  :D

    "That is the truth!"


    change the litter?  
    u need to go in with your pooper scooper

    and a condom ()  CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: SunFreak2 on April 04, 2007, 02:49:51 PM
    Hello to all you marvelous monkeys!!

    I'm just dropping in to say hi.  Met MissMarple for dinner the other night.  It was great.  We caught up on each others news and she informed me about the monkey news.

    I went to meet a lawyer today, but my appointment wasn't until tomorrow.  I'm getting senile I guess.  I stopped by my friends house to see one of my dogs.

    I hope to be back very soon.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 02:50:04 PM
    Yes,Carpe and FOM.I am glad they make one in our area and the other is by the litter box.They are sick.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 02:50:33 PM
    Okay, I think I have more of a handle on the Joran computer
    situation today...

    Simian did say ARROGANCE would be his downfall...

    and not being a full-on, doof-whistle, jacka$$, correct?



    Stupidity seems to be the boy's 'NICHE.' :roll:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 02:56:03 PM
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/UJJI.jpg)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 02:56:24 PM
    Quote from: "SunFreak2"
    Hello to all you marvelous monkeys!!

    I'm just dropping in to say hi.  Met MissMarple for dinner the other night.  It was great.  We caught up on each others news and she informed me about the monkey news.

    I went to meet a lawyer today, but my appointment wasn't until tomorrow.  I'm getting senile I guess.  I stopped by my friends house to see one of my dogs.

    I hope to be back very soon.


    Sunfreak!!  Great to see you!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 03:00:58 PM
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/JORANNNNN-1.png)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 04, 2007, 03:12:03 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/JORANNNNN-1.png)


    can you make his head move like in the IM GUILTY one ?

    thanks


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 03:20:51 PM
    Quote from: "robots"
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/JORANNNNN-1.png)


    can you make his head move like in the IM GUILTY one ?

    thanks



    Klaas is the one that can make the heads move. LOL :P


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: friend of monkeys on April 04, 2007, 03:21:33 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    I agree FOM.I have to change litter after those sites are seen by me.cat


    welcome back sunfreak!

    see u monkeys later :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 03:24:02 PM
    He looks like a cross  between the Rocky Horror Picture Show...

    and the Rat Pack Gang on all the old Frankie Avalon & Annette Funicello

    Beach Blanket Bingo movies.

     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 03:24:23 PM
    bye FOM!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 03:26:32 PM
    I made this one for you robots.


    http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/elsiecowoiii.jpg


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 03:30:30 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    I made this one for you robots.


    http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/elsiecowoiii.jpg

     :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 04, 2007, 04:30:26 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    I made this one for you robots.


    http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/elsiecowoiii.jpg



     :shock:

    that is very skeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrry


     :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 05:05:29 PM
    Was just thinking of the email threat, and wondering if Glenda is in a bunker somewhere.   :smt102


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tamikosmom on April 04, 2007, 05:06:41 PM
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Okay, I think I have more of a handle on the Joran computer
    situation today...

    Simian did say ARROGANCE would be his downfall...

    and not being a full-on, doof-whistle, jacka$$, correct?



    Stupidity seems to be the boy's 'NICHE.' :roll:  :lol:


    Hi carpe

    You are discribing Paulus Van der Sloot.  He must have been given some kind of assurance that Joran and him will never be implicated in the events that encompass the morning when Natalee Holloway went missing.

    I contend that Paulus better not get too smug.  As Art Wood implied ... it only takes one person to get a conscience and ... the house of cards will collapse.

    Janet


    Beth Twitty
    'Scarborough Country'
    February 7, 2006

    SCARBOROUGH:  You met them up close obviously at that meeting.  Tell me, what were they like?  Compare those parents that you met back then to what you saw this morning on television.

    HOLLOWAY TWITTY:  Well, really, the most significant one that‘s changed of course is Paulus van der Sloot.  He‘s a completely different man than the one that was seated before me during the month of June.  

    And there are so many things that are different.  This was a man that, Joe, I had to call him from the bushes.  He could not even maintain eye contact with me.  He was tremoring just pretty significantly, sweating to where his wife had to wipe it from the table.  

    This is not the same man that was seated before me.  This seems to be now a much more confident man.  And that‘s a concern of mine.  
     

    Proverbs 16:18
    Pride goes before destruction ... a haughty spirit before a fall


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 05:06:52 PM
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Was just thinking of the email threat, and wondering if Glenda is in a bunker somewhere.   :smt102

    Maybe she's hiding in Lorenzo's basement  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 05:18:31 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Was just thinking of the email threat, and wondering if Glenda is in a bunker somewhere.   :smt102

    Maybe she's hiding in Lorenzo's basement  :wink:


     :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 04, 2007, 05:25:34 PM
    Per FOB

    We have 666 members

    That explains it... :twisted:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 05:25:57 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
    Was just thinking of the email threat, and wondering if Glenda is in a bunker somewhere.   :smt102

    Maybe she's hiding in Lorenzo's basement  :wink:


     :D

    GEL - anything new to report from HE?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 05:27:26 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Per FOB

    We have 666 members

    That explains it... :twisted:  :lol:


     :lol:  :lol:

    We have 666 members, 4224 topics, 80554 posts.
    Please welcome our newest member Chicago2Florida.

    30 users online (24 members, 6 guests, 11 invisible). The most users ever online was 205 on Sat Apr 1st, 2006. The list of members online:
    JR-Dutch Attorney in USA- (Administrator), Hannah, Barney, Kat123, charlierat, jam, medleyrelay, DocTar, Knipoog, FOB_Lurker, dalejrfan8, Hans


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 04, 2007, 05:33:05 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - anything new to report from HE?

    NADA. Renfro's mom (Siddalee) appears to be having a mental breakdown, but it could just be an ongoing *condition*.  8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: carpe noctem on April 04, 2007, 05:34:31 PM
    Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
    Quote from: "carpe noctem"
    Okay, I think I have more of a handle on the Joran computer
    situation today...

    Simian did say ARROGANCE would be his downfall...

    and not being a full-on, doof-whistle, jacka$$, correct?



    Stupidity seems to be the boy's 'NICHE.' :roll:  :lol:


    Hi carpe

    You are discribing Paulus Van der Sloot.  He must have been given some kind of assurance that Joran and him will never be implicated in the events that encompass the morning when Natalee Holloway went missing.

    I contend that Paulus better not get too smug.  As Art Wood implied ... it only takes one person to get a conscience and ... the house of cards will collapse.

    Janet


    Beth Twitty
    'Scarborough Country'
    February 7, 2006

    SCARBOROUGH:  You met them up close obviously at that meeting.  Tell me, what were they like?  Compare those parents that you met back then to what you saw this morning on television.

    HOLLOWAY TWITTY:  Well, really, the most significant one that‘s changed of course is Paulus van der Sloot.  He‘s a completely different man than the one that was seated before me during the month of June.  

    And there are so many things that are different.  This was a man that, Joe, I had to call him from the bushes.  He could not even maintain eye contact with me.  He was tremoring just pretty significantly, sweating to where his wife had to wipe it from the table.  

    This is not the same man that was seated before me.  This seems to be now a much more confident man.  And that‘s a concern of mine.  
     

    Proverbs 16:18
    Pride goes before destruction ... a haughty spirit before a fall



    I hope so, Janet. He's definitely a madman swinging a kerosene
    lamp on a wooden bridge. I'd love to watch him go down as
    the result of his own dirty hand. (no pun intended)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 05:34:50 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - anything new to report from HE?

    NADA. Renfro's mom (Siddalee) appears to be having a mental breakdown, but it could just be an ongoing *condition*.  8)

    Why?  What is she doing  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: igsigs on April 04, 2007, 05:41:48 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Why?  What is she doing  :lol:

    Actually, most of the breakdown is in the open section. Calling people *pathetic bags of trash* :lol: , etc...

    Classy bunch, those Renfros. :arrow:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 05:42:25 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - anything new to report from HE?

    NADA. Renfro's mom (Siddalee) appears to be having a mental breakdown, but it could just be an ongoing *condition*.  8)


    Iggy beat me to it. :lol: Nothing but acting up in HE, which as been fun considering all the crap that's been posted through out this case. Everyone has been pretty civil today.
    But I'm still watching :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 05:47:56 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Why?  What is she doing  :lol:

    Actually, most of the breakdown is in the open section. Calling people *pathetic bags of trash* :lol: , etc...

    Classy bunch, those Renfros. :arrow:

    You saying the apple didn't fall too far from the tree?  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 05:48:02 PM
    Quote from: "igsigs"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Why?  What is she doing  :lol:

    Actually, most of the breakdown is in the open section. Calling people *pathetic bags of trash* :lol: , etc...

    Classy bunch, those Renfros. :arrow:


    That's what I just posted about at Freebird to ViVi. Reminded me when Glenda made the remark to Diva about her alumuinum house-it sounded like she was calling Diva trailer trash.Another one that uses the phrase of trailer trash is Bouchi at FOB. They could all be related or one in the same. :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 06:05:33 PM
    There are all first cousins,or closer.They have 46 genes in commen.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: MuffyBee on April 04, 2007, 06:30:17 PM
    Ugh!!  Did someone say "Glenda"?  Bleh.  Double Ugh!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: robots on April 04, 2007, 06:32:07 PM
    Quote from: "MuffyBee"
    Ugh!!  Did someone say "Glenda"?  Bleh.  Double Ugh!


    havent puked in 20 years  8)
    if i keep hearing that name.. i will be puking NUTS and BOLTS

    and maybe a CRT 8)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Tamikosmom on April 04, 2007, 06:41:40 PM
    Quote from: "Cat"
    There are all first cousins,or closer.They have 46 genes in commen.CAT


    Cat, Beth Twitty figured that one out too.   :lol:

    Janet

    Beth Twitty
    'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
    April 6, 2006

    COSBY: What do you make of the fact that it‘s so strange that here‘s this guy who‘s his brother-in-law, Gerold Dompig? Isn‘t that weird to you, too, just that strange connection? And the fact—it was interesting. When we were down there, the authorities were sort of, like, Well, we can‘t really focus on him because of, basically, who he‘s connected to.

    TWITTY: Well, you know, it‘s really not any stranger to me than it is that the Kalpoes are cousins of Gerold Dompig. So you know, they‘re all very connected on that island. It‘s hard to find someone who‘s not a relative or a cousin.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 06:49:26 PM
    Quote from: "MuffyBee"
    Ugh!!  Did someone say "Glenda"?  Bleh.  Double Ugh!


    Hi, there, MuffyBee.  Guess I'm guilty.... :smt039


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: friend of monkeys on April 04, 2007, 07:07:13 PM
    just wanted to say nite monkeys


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 07:15:10 PM
    Quote from: "friend of monkeys"
    just wanted to say nite monkeys


    Have a good one, FOM... :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: MuffyBee on April 04, 2007, 07:16:30 PM
    Hey there 2NJSons_Mom!  You certainly look perky with your new look :)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on April 04, 2007, 07:19:50 PM
    Quote from: "MuffyBee"
    Hey there 2NJSons_Mom!  You certainly look perky with your new look :)


    Well, crazybabyborg dressed me up for Easter....thanks....you look as lovely as usual...very spring like....


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 07:42:01 PM
    Klaas-do you know anything about that bribery email they're talking about on FOB??


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 07:46:21 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Klaas-do you know anything about that bribery email they're talking about on FOB??

    Yes.  I believe something was posted here a while back, let me check.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 07:47:17 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Klaas-do you know anything about that bribery email they're talking about on FOB??

    Yes.  I believe something was posted here a while back, let me check.


    Here you go.  This is what it's all about: :wink:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=109861&highlight=#109861


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 07:51:35 PM
    Quote from: "robots"
    Quote from: "MuffyBee"
    Ugh!!  Did someone say "Glenda"?  Bleh.  Double Ugh!


    havent puked in 20 years  8)
    if i keep hearing that name.. i will be puking NUTS and BOLTS

    and maybe a CRT 8)

    Try watching Fearfactor I bet you puke.... :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 07:54:48 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Klaas-do you know anything about that bribery email they're talking about on FOB??

    Yes.  I believe something was posted here a while back, let me check.


    Here you go.  This is what it's all about: :wink:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=109861&highlight=#109861


    Thanks,but am I getting this right that they(FOB) are saying it's an American cop that was doing the bribing and making it look like it's the American's fault.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 07:58:13 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Klaas-do you know anything about that bribery email they're talking about on FOB??

    Yes.  I believe something was posted here a while back, let me check.


    Here you go.  This is what it's all about: :wink:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=109861&highlight=#109861


    Thanks,but am I getting this right that they(FOB) are saying it's an American cop that was doing the bribing and making it look like it's the American's fault.


    I believe what they are saying at FOB is that an American was bribing an Aruban police officer.

    MF posted:

    One thing I know is that this started a couple of months ago, where edited portions of conversations between a traffic police officer and a Justice4Natalee follower were sent to Uncle Jo and Greta and then posted on the arubanboycot blogsite.

    Remember when we posted that several people on the island were getting bribing offers from people on the island and off the island? Well, this was one of them. They wanted to buy everybody on telling something bad about the ALE, Aruba or the suspects


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 08:00:16 PM
    GEL - here is a little more on that issue:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=108231&highlight=#108231


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 08:00:47 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Klaas-do you know anything about that bribery email they're talking about on FOB??

    Yes.  I believe something was posted here a while back, let me check.


    Here you go.  This is what it's all about: :wink:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=109861&highlight=#109861


    Thanks,but am I getting this right that they(FOB) are saying it's an American cop that was doing the bribing and making it look like it's the American's fault.


    I believe what they are saying at FOB is that an American was bribing an Aruban police officer.

    MF posted:

    One thing I know is that this started a couple of months ago, where edited portions of conversations between a traffic police officer and a Justice4Natalee follower were sent to Uncle Jo and Greta and then posted on the arubanboycot blogsite.

    Remember when we posted that several people on the island were getting bribing offers from people on the island and off the island? Well, this was one of them. They wanted to buy everybody on telling something bad about the ALE, Aruba or the suspects
     

    That's what I meant but you said it so much better.
    OK where do you think they're going with this?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 08:01:44 PM
    GEL - I have a question for you if you know.  If FOB is such the respectable place they claim they are, why is JR Dutch Atty allowing BigFish's BS there?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 08:07:33 PM
    (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Charlierat.gif)


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Patriot on April 04, 2007, 08:08:35 PM
    Klass,
    any idea if Dana is planning on having Jossy back on his show any time soon?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 08:08:48 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Charlierat.gif)


    ROFLMAO - San, did you do that??  ha ha ha  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 08:09:28 PM
    Quote from: "Patriot"
    Klass,
    any idea if Dana is planning on having Jossy back on his show any time soon?

    Hi Patriot - I don't know but I'll ask  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 08:09:34 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - here is a little more on that issue:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=108231&highlight=#108231


    How did I miss this? :shock: Seriously I remember earliy on that no one could get a permit anymore because of the bribes being placed,I think.But I never knew about this,I guess I shoulda ventured off RWV back then. :P
    So is Grande saying this was a sting?Did they get any info?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Elaine on April 04, 2007, 08:09:57 PM
    Hi Monkeys!! Klaas, I don't know if you saw my post the other day. I made an account with fotolog, so That I could leave messages on other members guestbooks there. I left a message for bananarepublik (JVDS) telling him to come see my picture, he came to look and left me a message, LOL.... see the message here by going to the picture dated 4/3 ,then go to the bottom of the page where it says guestbook comments.. http://www.fotolog.com/elainehere/


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Elaine on April 04, 2007, 08:11:44 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Charlierat.gif)
    That is soooooooooo accurate and hilarious too! :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 08:13:23 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - I have a question for you if you know.  If FOB is such the respectable place they claim they are, why is JR Dutch Atty allowing BigFish's BS there?


    Klaas I have wondered that too.I think it stinks JR lets them do that,but hey he is the does it most.I have had my posts taken there and torn apart,words twisted,and been ridiculed by them and it doesn't feel very good.I guess it's JR's sick kind of entertainment.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 08:13:31 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - here is a little more on that issue:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=108231&highlight=#108231


    How did I miss this? :shock: Seriously I remember earliy on that no one could get a permit anymore because of the bribes being placed,I think.But I never knew about this,I guess I shoulda ventured off RWV back then. :P
    So is Grande saying this was a sting?Did they get any info?

    Now you know as much as I know.  I just remember Grande's posts.

    Need to fix dinner, BRB


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 08:16:18 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    GEL - here is a little more on that issue:

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=108231&highlight=#108231


    How did I miss this? :shock: Seriously I remember earliy on that no one could get a permit anymore because of the bribes being placed,I think.But I never knew about this,I guess I shoulda ventured off RWV back then. :P
    So is Grande saying this was a sting?Did they get any info?

    Now you know as much as I know.  I just remember Grande's posts.

    Need to fix dinner, BRB


    I just hope something good comes from it.See ya later.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:12:48 PM
    Natalee's Freebirds latest report on corrution in Aruba is posted in the NH forum and the Important Case Document forum.  They also asked if I could put together a youtube to go along with it.  I've been waiting for Red to post on the front page of SM but he appears to be away from his PC today.

    Here is the link to the Youtube:


    CORRUPT ARUBAN POLICE AND JUDGES REVEALED!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phrl2LCCXIE


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 09:17:55 PM
    Hi everyone,

    That Evilive made an EXCELLENT point about how, IF Natalee did all that she did that night consensually LIKE THE REFUGEES THINK, JVDS had NO reason NOT to get help for her if she was in distress.

    The fact that no assistance was given her speaks volumes about HOW and WHY she was in distress.

    BTW, I didn't see anything of damage around Natalee Central this morning. We Bham monkeys got a heavy thunderstorm about 1 AM, but I never saw any wind damage anywhere driving around today. Wasn't as bad as we were afraid it might be around here.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:19:13 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Hi everyone,

    That Evilive made an EXCELLENT point about how, IF Natalee did all that she did that night consensually LIKE THE REFUGEES THINK, JVDS had NO reason NOT to get help for her if she was in distress.

    The fact that no assistance was given her speaks volumes about HOW and WHY she was in distress.

    BTW, I didn't see anything of damage around Natalee Central this morning. We Bham monkeys got a heavy thunderstorm about 1 AM, but I never saw any wind damage anywhere driving around today. Wasn't as bad as we were afraid it might be around here.

    Glad you didn't see any damage!


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: IndyDan on April 04, 2007, 09:22:28 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Rape is a cottage industry down there.

    I've always thought of it as a "Sport" down there. I don't think they view sex down there the same way we view it here.  To them it's just an emotionaless act, like going to the gym, snorkling, gambling in the casinos. So there's really nothing immoral or criminal about having sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex, you have to see it from their perspective. Everyone wants to have sex, just some don't know it and need to be forced.
    Notice how JVDS always says 'she gave me a BJ' when he knows he didn't have intercourse with someone, the lack of intercourse didn't make him a failure because she satisfied him with oral sex.  It's all about satisfying the males.  Even if they didn't want sex, they at least satisfied the men with oral sex.  And he uses the excuse that the act had to be oral sex to save his bravado, afterall, if she wasn't able to have intercourse, she at least gave me a BJ, she couldn't resist me.
    But the visitors to their island don't always share the same carefree attitude towards this casual means of gratification, therefore, drugging and having sex with a tourist is perfectly acceptable, forget that the tourist might have a different set of moral standards, she'll come to the next day rushing to make her flight home, none the wiser.
    IMO it's that difference in cultures that has them digging their heals into the sand fighting this. They just aren't going to succumb to our moral standards that sex is consensual, to them it's on demand.
    My rant for the day, been off but been reading.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 09:23:18 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Natalee's Freebirds latest report on corrution in Aruba is posted in the NH forum and the Important Case Document forum.  They also asked if I could put together a youtube to go along with it.  I've been waiting for Red to post on the front page of SM but he appears to be away from his PC today.

    Here is the link to the Youtube:


    CORRUPT ARUBAN POLICE AND JUDGES REVEALED!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phrl2LCCXIE


     Klass what an awesome video.
     I think its great that you had Beths voice in there. I just listened to it.. and can honestly say. here I sit wiht a big lump in my throat.. and tears rolling.   :cry:  :cry:  The pain in here voice is heartbreaking.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:24:10 PM
    Angie - I probably should have warned you first, sorry.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 09:24:13 PM
    My patience is wearing thin-it will take forever to load youtube :x


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 09:24:53 PM
    Yes,is the answer SB.We were lucky last night,but don't forget 1974.I am watching and waiting,at the moment.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:25:04 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    My patience is wearing thin-it will take forever to load youtube :x


    It shouldn't take any time at all.  Hopefully Red will have it on the front page tonight.  Close out and try opening it up again.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 09:26:48 PM
    That rat is causing Global warming.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: IndyDan on April 04, 2007, 09:29:43 PM
    See ya on the new thread --- tomorrow, nite all


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 09:29:44 PM
    Quote from: "IndyDan"
    It's all about satisfying the males.  Even if they didn't want sex, they at least satisfied the men with oral sex.  And he uses the excuse that the act had to be oral sex to save his bravado.


    Notwithstanding the fact that an 18-year-old young woman's attitude toward such activity with a stranger, without any protection is likely not to be very accommodating. Especially a young, moral, decent American girl who has a basic knowledge of the astounding health risk involved, much less the moral component.

    Such an act would have been about the last thing in the world that Natalee would do WILLINGLY. She was drugged and forcibly raped.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:32:50 PM
    Quote from: "IndyDan"
    See ya on the new thread --- tomorrow, nite all

    Nite Indy


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 09:33:05 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Angie - I probably should have warned you first, sorry.



     Noo.. you didnt need a warning.. I think that was really a wonderful idea to have her on it speaking.. I hope some of the gulity mo fos listen to it..or anyone else on the other blogs for that matter.. RU or FOB.. How could anyone NOT get choked up after hearing that.. would be beyond me.   You did a fantastic job Klaas and Natalees Freebirds are doing a terrific job with the documents they send.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 09:33:13 PM
    Hey Cat,

    Why don't you take a trip to the other side of the MTN and look for CharlieRat, he might make a tasty meal!

    ON SECOND THOUGHT... he would give you gas.

    Although if you could stomach him, that would be an excellent way of shutting him up.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: IndyDan on April 04, 2007, 09:34:51 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Quote from: "IndyDan"
    It's all about satisfying the males.  Even if they didn't want sex, they at least satisfied the men with oral sex.  And he uses the excuse that the act had to be oral sex to save his bravado.


    Notwithstanding the fact that an 18-year-old young woman's attitude toward such activity with a stranger, without any protection is likely not to be very accommodating. Especially a young, moral, decent American girl who has a basic knowledge of the astounding health risk involved, much less the moral component.

    Such an act would have been about the last thing in the world that Natalee would do WILLINGLY. She was drugged and forcibly raped.

    And murdered. We know, the distractors know it, the Arubans know, the Dutch know it. the guilty know we all know it. the whole world knows it. It's all a matter of forcing the truth to the surface.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on April 04, 2007, 09:35:35 PM
    Quote from: "sb"
    Hey Cat,

    Why don't you take a trip to the other side of the MTN and look for CharlieRat, he might make a tasty meal!

    ON SECOND THOUGHT... he would give you gas.

    Although if you could stomach him, that would be an excellent way of shutting him up.



     lol SB


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 09:36:35 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    My patience is wearing thin-it will take forever to load youtube :x


    It shouldn't take any time at all.  Hopefully Red will have it on the front page tonight.  Close out and try opening it up again.


    Thanks Klaas,I tried it again but my computer is on dial up that may be why it's so slow.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:38:20 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    My patience is wearing thin-it will take forever to load youtube :x


    It shouldn't take any time at all.  Hopefully Red will have it on the front page tonight.  Close out and try opening it up again.


    Thanks Klaas,I tried it again but my computer is on dial up that may be why it's so slow.

    Dang sorry.  Dial up...that sucks  :wink:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 09:39:05 PM
    I might.I know where he and he stinks.CAT


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: IndyDan on April 04, 2007, 09:39:31 PM
    BTW, GEL, I don't do alot of posting but I do a lot of reading and I just have to give you a high-five for taking on the VDS-skinheads. I enjoy reading your posts.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:39:38 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    My patience is wearing thin-it will take forever to load youtube :x


    It shouldn't take any time at all.  Hopefully Red will have it on the front page tonight.  Close out and try opening it up again.


    Thanks Klaas,I tried it again but my computer is on dial up that may be why it's so slow.

    Dang sorry.  Dial up...that sucks  :wink:


    GEL - are the videos on photobucket easier for you to open?  If so I can load it to photobucket too.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:41:14 PM
    OK 7 more posts to page 50 :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 09:41:59 PM
    Quote from: "IndyDan"
    BTW, GEL, I don't do alot of posting but I do a lot of reading and I just have to give you a high-five for taking on the VDS-skinheads. I enjoy reading your posts.


    Thank you Indy-believe me it has been a pleasure. :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 04, 2007, 09:42:17 PM
    Six


    ...and heading off to bed..... :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:42:51 PM
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    Six


    ...and heading off to bed..... :D


    Nite Mere


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 09:42:59 PM
    Hey Angie,

    How'd you come out with with Little Miss Stalkerette last night?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:43:16 PM
    By the way Klaas you did an outstanding job once again with the youtube video.  A very emotional piece.


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: greeneyedlady on April 04, 2007, 09:43:28 PM
    If you think Red will post it soon I can wait,I've been waiting almost 2 years now :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:44:04 PM
    Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
    If you think Red will post it soon I can wait,I've been waiting almost 2 years now :lol:


    I hope  :lol:  But is photobucket easier?


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:44:04 PM
    Hey I miscounted. :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Mere on April 04, 2007, 09:44:27 PM
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    Six


    ...and heading off to bed..... :D


    Nite Mere


    Good night monkey friends....."practice packing" again tonight....trip to Ireland in the near future....getting excited.... :D


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:45:03 PM
    (http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/nowlocked.jpg)

    Please move to LCD# 596

    http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1028


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: San on April 04, 2007, 09:45:10 PM
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    Six


    ...and heading off to bed..... :D


    Nite Mere


    Good night monkey friends....."practice packing" again tonight....trip to Ireland in the near future....getting excited.... :D

    I bet you can't pack as fast as Klaas :lol: .


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: sb on April 04, 2007, 09:45:37 PM
    Helping bump us up to the jump over the fence...

    Angie, tell us in the next thread....


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: klaasend on April 04, 2007, 09:45:51 PM
    Quote from: "San"
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    Quote from: "klaasend"
    Quote from: "MeMere"
    Six


    ...and heading off to bed..... :D


    Nite Mere


    Good night monkey friends....."practice packing" again tonight....trip to Ireland in the near future....getting excited.... :D

    I bet you can't pack as fast as Klaas :lol: .

     :lol:  :lol:


    Title: Lively Case Discussion #595 4/1 - 4/4/2007
    Post by: Cat on April 04, 2007, 09:46:03 PM
    SB,I will be the rats lair on Friday.I will give him your warm regards.CAT