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 ::boxingjoran:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance::  ::bee::

Thanks Muffy!   ::boxingjoran::

You're welcome Klaas, it's my pleasure.  Especially this! ::boxingjoran::   ::MonkeyDevil::

The ongong prayer of Monkeys on this forum has been that Natalee Holloway will be returned to her country ... will be returned to her family ... her family who after more than six years has yet been afforded the opportunity to lay their loved one to rest on American soil.

I believe that there are those who were on board the Persistence who could be instrumental in bringing about required pressure that will allow our prayer to be realized ... those who witnessed and videotaped the furthering of the Aruban/Dutch  coverup  ... the Aruban/Dutch coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing for American citizen since May 30, 2005.

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The Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23

Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”

Acceptance Trust

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Pages 100: He entrusted me with her care for eighteen years.  Now I must trust Him to care for her.  So I never ask Him why.  Why Natalee?  Why me?  I don't ask.  To do that undermines faith.  Instead, I form an "acceptance trust" with Him there on the windy hillside.
 

Faithful One

Faithful One, so unchanging
Ageless one, You're my rock of peace
Lord of all I depend on You
I call out to You, again and again
I call out to You, again and again

You are my rock in times of trouble
You lift me up when I fall down
All through the storm
Your love is, the anchor
My hope is in You alone

Brian Doerksen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxviwvjyg1w&feature=related

http://www2.wsav.com/lifestyles/2011/aug/24/1/boys-girls-club-bulloch-county-announces-fundraisi-ar-2317774/

Boys & Girls Club of Bulloch County Announces Fundraising Events

By: JEFF MARKS
Published: August 24, 2011

Updated: August 24, 2011 - 9:12 PM

Ogeechee Technical College and ERA Landmark Realty are hosting a Meet and Greet on Thursday, September 8 with Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway.  The buffet style luncheon will be held at the Holiday Inn of Statesboro from 11:45 a.m. until 1:00 p.m.  Tickets are available for purchase, but seating is limited.  The cost is $30.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.themorningnewsaruba.com/

Peru seeks 30-year jail term for Joran van der Sloot
Monday, August 29, 2011

Page 8

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/82321-tweede-aardbeving-tijdens-weekend

Google translation:

Second earthquake at weekends         
MONDAY, AUGUST 29, 2011 10:04

A second earthquake, Sunday, at Aruba.

ORANGE CITY - Aruba last night once again faced with an earthquake. It took place at twenty past nine and had a magnitude of 1.2 on the Richter Scale. The epicenter was located 17 km north of Aruba.

Some inhabitants of North and St. Cruz have felt this earthquake, so let Aruba know weather. It was the second earthquake in a weekend in Aruba. Saturday afternoon, the island was already shaken by a quake, which had a weight of 4.6 on the Richter Scale and was used by many more people in multiple locations and felt. That first earthquake caused minor damage to include the landing and the airport Reina Beatrix opstijgbaan. The airport was a precautionary measure about half hour closed, flights were diverted.
 ::snipping2::

Rudolf H Vrolijk
Worked at Citicorp N.Y (Vice President)Studied Banking and Finance at NYU
Lives in Oranjestad, Netherlands Antilles
Knows English, Spanish, Dutch and 3 others
From Port Jefferson, New York
http://www.facebook.com/vrolijkr


Education and Work
Employers   

Citicorp N.Y
Vice President · New York, New York

Bankers Trust
Vice President · New York, New York
Fairhaven Trade Ltd
CEO · Zürich, Switzerland
Commodity Trade Petroleum refined product (Gasoline, Jet Fuel, ULSD, Bitumen)

Family
Michelle Lejuez
Sister
   http://facebook.com/michelle.lejuez


I wonder if they are related?????


 Helen Lejuez (Attorney for Beth Twitty)

CAPS witness went to Helen LeJuez & she set up a meeting for him with Clyde Burke from ALE

ART WOOD: In August, the Diario tip line recorded an after hours call from a woman. She advised that there was a crooked cop, his name was Halley and he took a body from the sand prior to the search. The woman said that Halley knows Paulus Vandersloot. Art copied that tape and gave it to Helen Lejuez who in turn gave it to the prosecutor to be entered into evidence. In September, Dave Holloway questioned Dompig regarding this tape and the police vehicle that he had seen. Dompig and the investigative team acted like they never heard of either account.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2269.msg295057#msg295057

Judge J.S. Kuiperdal
J S. Kuiperdal
Firm: C. Helen Werleman-Lejuez
Address: PO Box 1354
Italiestraat 12

Edit to change red to green.

Boys & Girls Club of Bulloch County Announces Fundraising Events
Published: August 24, 2011
Updated: August 24, 2011 - 9:12 PM

<snipped>

The Boys and Girls Club of Bulloch County will then hold the 6th annual Steak & Burger Dinner that evening.  Keynote speaker Beth Holloway will deliver her message of hope, faith, and perseverance.  Reserve your seat for $100 or a table of six for $750.

Please R.S.V.P. through Mike Backus at (912) 764-9696 or via email at mbackus@bgcbuolloch.org.  All proceeds benefit the Boys & Girls Clubs of Bulloch County.

http://www2.wsav.com/lifestyles/2011/aug/24/1/boys-girls-club-bulloch-county-announces-fundraisi-ar-2317774/

Ribbit!


Aruba: The Tragic Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise
By Dave Holloway

Page 108-109:  There had been so many stories and so much speculation that my head was spinning.  Some things occurred that made me wonder if there was a reasonable explanation for them or whether there were people in the police department who were deliberately working against our best interests.

[For instance, on June 2, 2005, during those first few days after Natalee’s disappearance, I had traveled to the California Lighthouse to initiate the land search with a group of approximately twenty to thirty tourists and locals.  The light house is elevated above the sand dunes.

The Dutch Marines had been activated and were traveling to the area to conduct there own search.  I was not aware they were going to show up.  But I had to wonder if someone tipped them off that we were going to be in the area searching.  Since it was still very early in the investigation, we did not realize that this area might have been part of a possible crime scene.

Just as we were organizing at the lighthouse, my attention was diverted to a police car that had entered the sand dunes in the distance.  The vehicle was crisscrossing through the dunes, making it appear as though a frantic search was being conducted.  The car stopped by a hug boulder, but it was partially blocked from my view.  Did they find Natalee?  I wondered.  My brother Phil and I noticed two police officers hurriedly looking around in the sand.  The trunk of their car was open, but by the time we were able to get down there in the four-wheeler, the officers were getting back into their vehicles and leaving.

I did not tell anyone else about this incident right away because it was the first day of our search and we did not have very many suspicions at the time.  Subsequently, I reported the officers’ strange activity to the FBI and asked that it only be reported to the chief of police and the prosecutor.

In hindsight, I wonder if they had found Natalee buried in the sand and did not let us know.  Or maybe they were looking for Joran’s sneakers or some other evidence.  It looked very suspicious.  I later heard that a woman came forward who said that she heard about a policeman who helped dig up Natalee’s body from the same area.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10454138/__Joran_is_nu_merknaam__.html?p=2,1

Google translation

Tue August 30 2011, 16:35
Joran van der Sloot is now protected trademark

Amsterdam - Both "Joran" as Joran van der Sloot "have recently become trade marks. Van der Sloot's mother has named her son half years ago as a registered trademark
   
This was discovered by director Paul Ruven, when he was on his movie Me & Mr. Joran. Jones. "Just before we wanted to mount, there came a letter from a lawyer for Van der Sloot: There should be no movie, because Joran is a brand that is in possession of the family Van der Sloot", wrote on Tuesday Ruven his weblog.

The director has his own lawyer's claim for examination. Which concluded that there was no reason for a ban on the film. "Our lawyer said that it is possible that Van Der Sloot family, indeed, 'Joran' and 'Joran van der Sloot" registered as a trademark might have. But there have been several degrees. Coca Cola is everywhere in the world very well protected to avoid abuse in trade. But with one person as Joran is very difficult and very costly. Moreover, his actions and statements by Joran a public figure. "

 ::snipping2::

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/2877423/2011/08/30/Joran-van-der-Sloot-is-geregistreerde-merknaam.dhtml

Google translation

Tuesday, August 30, 2011
"Joran van der Sloot" is registered trademark

 ::snipping2::

public figure

Ruven had his own lawyer then investigate the claim. Who concluded that such a trademark registration for a public figure is not possible. Ruven: "Coca Cola is everywhere in the world very well protected to avoid abuse in trade. But with one person as Joran is very difficult and very costly. Moreover, his actions and statements by Joran a public figure. If you google his name, you get more than 10 million hits. "

Eventually the family lawyer, Van der Sloot the release of the film does not stop, but some scenes were edited or removed. Me & Mr.. Jones will premiere on September 22 at the Dutch Film Festival in Utrecht.

Thanks Grace

George and Cindy Anthony did the same with Caylee Marie's name.  What are the implications?

Janet

The irony of it all.  If the Aruban judiciary had not prevented the prosecution of Joran van der Sloot in the Natalee Holloway case ... Stephany's parents would be rejoicing as they watched their precious daughter following her dreams.  They would not be in a position of giving thanks that Joran van der Sloot will be prosecuted in a Peruvian court for her murder ... something they were worried less than two weeks ago may not happen.

Janet

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Woman's family wants speedy trial for van der Sloot
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 17, 2011 -- Updated 2200 GMT (0600 HKT

(CNN) -- The family of a slain Peruvian woman is urging prosecutors to file their case against murder suspect Joran van der Sloot, warning that he may be released by December unless the case goes ahead.

"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free," Ricardo Flores, the dead woman's father, told CNN.

Van der Sloot faces charges in the May 2010 killing of Stephany Flores, who was found dead in his Lima hotel room. Police say van der Sloot took money and bank cards from her wallet and fled to Chile, where he was arrested a few days later.

Investigators delivered their case file to prosecutors in June for a decision on charges. Ricardo Flores said the prosecutor in the case, Miriam Riveros Castellares, is "not moving with the speed that a case of this magnitude merits."

"We're asking that either the prosecutor file charges or that authorities remove her from this case and name somebody else," he said.

There was no immediate response to the family's concerns from the prosecutor's office.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/17/peru.van.der.sloot/

The irony of it all.  Relatively speaking the Flores family are fortunate.  Justice has a chance of prevailing for their Stephany.

Janet

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No justice for Natalee in Aruba

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 182:  September 1 Helen calls to say the court is asking for DNA from the Kalpoes and Joran van der Sloot and that their attorneys are fighting this.  She also says the suspects are pointing the finger at one another. ....

Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.   And we are the last ones to find out. ...

When Helen calls, I stand in a corner of the hotel room, phone to my ear, tapping my head against the wall over and over.  Tears fall hard.  "I'm done, Helen.  I'm done.  No justice for Natalee in Aruba.  I'm done."


NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT
Loving Natalee
http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx

Somebody?  Anybody?

Thanks

Janet

SELF-EDIT - POST #15

Aruban judiciary s/b Dutch judiciary

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In reality none.  Just like they can't do anything about people posting stuff using Caylee's name it's hard for anyone to do anything about Joran's name.  The question isn't so much the use of the name as much as manking money using the name.  But Joran is a public figure, he made himself one.  It would be hard to enforce.

Thanks Klaas.

Janet

A while back upon release my DIL picked up "Portrait of a Monster" at a bookstore in Bellingham, Washington.  Shortly after ... DIL and son went to Holland for a wedding and while on the long flight the book was read from cover to cover twice.  Prior to returning ... I received an email from DIL informing me of her perspective ... a perspective which she claims that any positive feedback she may have afforded the book was negated by the upholding of Steph Watts, Dave Holloway and Tim Miller while at the same time subtley undermining Beth Holloway.

I have yet to read the book ... maybe this weekend.  However I was directed to one of the segments that troubled my DIL.

Janet

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Portrait of a Monster
by Lisa Pulitzer and Cole Thompson

Page 231:  Fox News producer Steph Watts had cautioned the Twitty-Kelly team about dealing with the cad, when he learned from them what Joran had proposed.  Watts had warned them not to give Joran any real money.  Coincidentally, $25,000 was the standard asking rate of Joran's "licensing" fee for an interview.  Steph said the probability of Joran fleeing Aruba once he had the down payment was almos certain.

Once back in New York.  John Kelly continued his e-mail correspondence with Joran, as the deal had a $225,000 outstanding balance.  He underestimated the flight risk that Steph had cautioned them about.

Page 232:  Being so hellbent on the murder conviction may have been shortsighted, but Beth Twitty held that as her ultimate prize, as well.  In hindsight Joran escape to Peru could have been avoided had an extortion charge been used to detain him.  Instead, he managed to flee the country with $25,000 of extorted money, having only led his victims to another dead end of lies.  The money, in turn, funded an opportunity for the horrific crime that followed.  But nobody could have foreseen such tragedy.

From Paul Ruven's site:

Google Translation

Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Van Der Sloot TRYING TO STOP FILM - BEHIND THE SCENES 14 - ME AND MR JONES ON ISLAND Natalee

After the shooting, we were glad we flew back from Aruba to the Netherlands. The film was different now, because just before we wanted the film to include Joran Stephanie Flores was killed.

That changed the story, of course, and filming in Aruba had suddenly become much more difficult. But we had the movie now happily "in the can" and safe with us.

Just before we wanted to mount, there came a letter from a lawyer for Van der Sloot: There should be no movie, because Joran is a brand that is in possession of the family van der Sloot.
Huh?

Joran is a registered trademark, as Calvé peanut butter and Coca Cola?

It should not get any crazier, we thought. But our lawyer said it is possible that family van der Sloot indeed "Joran" and "Joran van der Sloot" registered as a trademark might have.

But there have been several degrees. Coca Cola is everywhere in the world very well protected to avoid abuse in trade.

But with one person as Joran is very difficult and very costly. Moreover, his actions and statements by Joran a "public figure": If you google his name, you get more than 10 million hits.

Fortunately, Joran van der Sloot family and the film does not stop. We went assemble. And then there came a letter from a lawyer.

This time of "X". And this time it was seriously dangerous. For six months, our lawyer and their lawyers negotiated. It eventually reached a settlement, which the movie is saved.

We have agreed not to mention the name, for that's exactly what it was. This
"X" was due to a number of reasons not associated with a film about Joran van der Sloot.

That could have consequences for the movie: We could not use some scenes. That was painful, and very strange: As if your film censorship was applied.

Eventually you can do a lot with editing. Although I still very sorry that there are missing scenes in the beginning, which we witness how sick Hanna Verboom, and how desperate they are by this disease ...

But that is apparently the price you pay if you want something to try to film a case, which is still so sensitive, that two parties you want to ban the film.

It was not the only parties who worked against. But more about that next time.


Posted by Paul Ruven on 8/30/2011

http://meandmrjonesonnataleeisland.blogspot.com/


So Joran's lawyer and Mr. X both wanted the film stopped.  Who is Mr. X?  ATAH??

Probably so Buckeye.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wondered what the holdup was with that movie, guess that explains it.

Wonder how the Aruban people feel about the van der Sloot's trademarking Joran's name?

Do they even know?  IMO, probably not.

He used a lot of the erroneous  "drug", "rehab" rumors regarding Natalee, in his early releases.  Perhaps he was threatened with slander and eliminated some of that.  :smt102

http://register.boip.int/bmbonline/details/trademark/show.do?markID=2780553&markNumberType=EUR&markNumber=9191545

CTM-ONLINE - Detailed trade mark information
    
                                                                              
Trade mark name :   JORAN VAN DER SLOOT
Trade mark No :   009191545
Trade mark basis:    CTM
Date of receipt :   21/06/2010
Number of results:   1 of 1
Request an inspection
 Certified copy of the Application form    Certified copy of the Registration Certificate
                           |      |      |      |   
Trade mark
 
Filing date:   21/06/2010
Date of registration:   14/12/2010
Expiry Date:   21/06/2020
Nice Classification:   9, 16, 35, 41 ( Nice classification)
Trade mark:   Individual
Type of mark:   Word
Acquired distinctiveness:   No
Applicant’s reference:   MM/GMK601
Status of trade mark:   
Registered   ( Glossary)
Publication of registration   
( Publication B1 or Publication B2)
     ( History of statuses)
Filing language:   Dutch
Second language:   English
National search requested:   No
Graphic representation
 
No entry for application number: 009191545.
  List of goods and services
 
Nice Classification:   9
List of goods and services   Scientific, surveying, photographic, cinematographic, optical, weighing, measuring, signalling, checking (supervision), life-saving and teaching apparatus and instruments; apparatus and instruments for the conduction, distribution, conversion, storage, regulation and management of electricity; apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of sound or images; magnetic data carriers, recording discs; automatic vending machines and mechanisms for coin-operated apparatus; cash registers, calculating machines, data processing equipment and computers; fire-extinguishing apparatus; electronic publications (downloadable);electronic publications, namely books, magazines, journals, newsletters, periodicals, newspapers, brochures, leaflets and other publications;computer software, hardware, electronic data carriers.
    
Nice Classification:   16
List of goods and services   Paper, cardboard and goods made from these materials, not included in other classes; printed matter; bookbinding material; photographs; stationery; adhesive preparations for office use;or for household purposes; artists' materials; paint brushes; typewriters and office requisites (except furniture); instructional and teaching material (except apparatus); plastic materials for packaging (not included in other classes); printers' type; printing blocks.
    
Nice Classification:   35
List of goods and services   Advertising; business management; business administration; office functions;merchandising, advertising and sales promotion;advertising agencies; promoting the goods and services of others over the Internet;bringing together, for others, of sound recording discs, electronic publications (downloadable), electronic publicaitons, namely books, magazines, journals, newsletters, periodicals, newspapers, brochures, leaflets and other publications, computer software, hardware, electronic data carriers, paper, cardboard and goods made from these materials, printed matter, book binding material, photographs, stationery, adhesives for stationery or household purposes, artists' materials, paint brushes, typewriters and office requisites (except furniture), instructional and teaching material (except apparatus), plastic materials for packaging, printers' type and printing blocks, enabling customers to conveniently view and purchase those goods, including such services provided online from a computer database; administrative processing of orders; opinion polls; recruitment of sponsors; commercial information; market canvassing, research and analysis; compilation and management of online databases and searchable online databases; organisation of trade fairs and exhibitions for commercial and advertising purposes; information and consultancy relating to the aforesaid services; all the aforesaid services whethr or not provided via electronic channels, including the Internet.
    
Nice Classification:   41
List of goods and services   Education; providing of training; entertainment; sporting and cultural activities;publishing of books, magazines, journals, newsletters, periodicals, newspapers, brochures, leaflets, printed matter and other texts and publications;arranging and conducting of events;booking of seats for shows and events; film production; photography and photographic reporting; layout services, not for advertising purposes;drafting and writing texts, other than publicity texts; organization of competitions; editing of radio and television programmes; scriptwriting services; reporter services; organisation of trade fairs and exhibitions for cultural and educational purposes; information and consultancy relating to the aforesaid services; all the aforesaid services whether or not provided via electronic channels, including the Internet.
    


Description of the mark:   -
Owner
 
Name:   Anita O.M.A. Hugen - Van der Sloot
ID No:   418053
Natural or legal person:   Physical person
Address:   Stadionweg 88 HS
Post code:   1070 SR
Town:   Amsterdam
Country:    NETHERLANDS
Correspondence address:   Anita O.M.A. Hugen - Van der Sloot  Stadionweg 88 HS NL-1070 SR Amsterdam PAÍSES BAJOS
    
Representative
 
Name:   DE MERKPLAATS
ID No:   15768
Type:   4 - Association
Address:   Herengracht 227
Post code:   1016 BG
Town:   Amsterdam
Country:    NETHERLANDS
Correspondence address:   DE MERKPLAATS  Herengracht 227 NL-1016 BG Amsterdam PAÍSES BAJOS
Telephone:   00 31-203306610
Fax:   00 31-203306611
E-mail:    office@demerkplaats.nl
    
Seniority
 
No entry for application number: 009191545.
Exhibition priority
 
No entry for application number: 009191545
Priority
 
No entry for application number: 009191545.
International Registration Transformation
 
No entry for application number: 009191545.
Publication
 
Bulletin no.:    2010/162
Date of publication:   31/08/2010
Part:   A.1
    
Bulletin no.:    2010/237
Date of publication:   17/12/2010
Part:   B.1
    
Opposition
 
No entry for application number: 009191545.
Cancellation
 
No entry for application number: 009191545
Appeals
 
No entry for application number: 009191545.
Recordals
 
No entry for application number: 009191545.
Renewals
 
No entry for application number: 009191545.

Just goes to show you where Anita's head really was.

She wasn't grieving for Paul, or Joran.  She had her mind on $$$$$$$!

I'm really not surprised, but it's still sickening.

jmo

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

It's like trying to trademark Ted Bundy or Charles Manson. When you google Joran and get 10 million hits -- a "trademark" is completely useless. I don't think it could ever be enforced ............... even in Aruba or The Netherlands. I will defer to Arlene though!  ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks Buckeye!   ::MonkeyCool::

You may be right on both counts, my guess is the movie is a lot different now than it started out to be.  Noticed this in reading more on the page...

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Holloway-van-der-Sloot-film-about-to-premiere/peuKXeoXCUWOzqd65EUJDg.cspx

 ::snipping2::

CBS42.com: Is the Holloway family and Their actions since 2005 part of the movie?

Paul Ruven: NO. BUT I THINK THEY WILL MESSAGE-WISE AGREE WITH THE MOVIE

 ::snipping2::

It was amazing to me how much Mark Benson Denz started sounding like her, and I only saw him commenting on the Robyn Gardner case a couple times.  I bet he caught hell for being on Nancy Grace!

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyTongue::

This may have already been posted...

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Holloway-van-der-Sloot-film-about-to-premiere/peuKXeoXCUWOzqd65EUJDg.cspx

Holloway/van der Sloot film about to premiere
         
Print Story Published: 8/26 7:48 am Share Updated: 8/26 8:46 am     

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The fact is stranger than fiction tale of Natalee Holloway's disappearance on Aruba is about to hit the big screen in a fictional account by Dutch film maker Paul Ruven.

"Me and Mr. Jones on Natalee Island" will debut September 22 at the Utrecht Film Festival in The Netherlands.

CBS42.com interviewed Ruven by e-mail:

CBS42.com: How has the ever changing real life drama (discovery of Stephany Flores’ body while you were filming on Aruba; the ongoing saga of bizarre tales coming out of the Castro Castro prison; the recent disappearance of yet another American on Aruba) affected your film project?

Paul Ruven: A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE SHOOTING THE NEWS ABOUT STEPHANY FLORES BROKE. I CHANGED THE SCRIPT THEN QUITE A BIT. AND DURING SHOOTING WE ADJUSTED THINGS BECAUSE OF THE NEWS UPDATES WE GOT. SO YES, IT AFFECTED THE SCRIPT ENORMOUSLY.

CBS42.com: Have you done any rewriting, reshooting, reediting in response?

Paul Ruven: SEE THE ANSWER BEFORE. IT WAS NERVE WRECKING. BECAUSE ARUBA WAS IN STRESS AGAIN BECAUSE IT FEARED ANOTHER BLOW BY JORAN, FEARING THE TOURISTS WOULD STAY AWAY, WHICH IS BAD FOR TOURIST-DEPENDENT ARUBA.

CBS42.com: Was there a point in the project where you stepped back and asked yourself….wow, what have I gotten into here?

Paul Ruven: YES, AT THE MOMENT I HEARD THAT JORAN ALLEGEDLY KILLED STEPHANY. BECAUSE IT CHANGED EVERYTHING. BUT THEN I REALISED IT ONLY STRENGTHENED THE VISION WE ALREADY HAD.

 ::snipping2::

I hope so.

It appears that Lisa Pulitzer and Cole Thompson disregarded the Joran van der Sloot trademark.

Janet

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Portrait of a Monster: Joran van der Sloot, a Murder in Peru, and the Natalee Holloway Mystery [Hardcover]
Lisa Pulitzer (Author), Cole Thompson (Author)

Product Details
Hardcover: 288 pages
Publisher: St. Martin's Press; First Edition edition (July 5 2011)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0312359217
ISBN-13: 978-0312359218
Product Dimensions: 23.9 x 15.5 x 2.8 cm
Shipping Weight: 499 g

An article from July 29, 2010                                         

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/film-about-natalee-holloway-case-searches-truth

Film about Natalee Holloway case 'searches for the truth'
Published on : 29 July 2010 - 12:50pm | By Myrtille van Bommel

 ::snipping2::

No punches pulled
The film, Me & Mr Jones, doesn't paint a sympathetic picture of any of the characters. For example, Joran van der Sloot, is portrayed as a rich white youth with influential parents, who flouts the law. At the time of Natalee Holloway's disappearance, he was receiving treatment for psychological problems. He is also reported to have been involved in two cases of indecent assault.
 
"The film pulls no punches in showing that Joran lied. That's why the main character, the investigative journalist, breaks the law to get at the truth. He, just like Joran, doesn't abide by the law."

Mr Ruven doesn't spare the character of Natalee Holloway either. He says the image of her as some kind of holy virgin, an innocent girl, is just the way her mother wants her portrayed.

"The truth is that Natalee had a nose full of cocaine that night, was blind drunk and had been chasing blokes for days."

Extensive research
These are the facts all parties in the case want ignored - Joran van der Sloot's family, Natalee Holloway's family, and also the Aruban authorities. Mr Ruven has done extensive research to get to the bottom of the case. He says that in order to understand why there are still no real answers five years after Ms Holloway's disappearance, you need to understand the psychology and mentality of Aruba. The Caribbean island is an autonomous part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

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TM sent me some photos of this years Aruba Rembrandt Regatta.  It was held I believe Aug 12-14.  It appears that Renfro and her daughter competed and Kawish was also there.  Judging by the red shirts, I'd say that Renfro was on Anthony Hagedoorn's team.  I blurred out her daughter Paris's face a bit too.:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6188/6099989290_0c583fda52_b.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6099442935_d69961bb11_b.jpg)

Sarcasm Alert:
I admit, I'm wondering what kind of merchandising goes along with trademarking Joran.  Do we have Joran action figures?  Do we have tee shirts and lunch boxes?   Back packs?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I mean no disrespect to Natalee's stepfather but why is Beth referred to as Beth "Twitty" by the authors of "Portrait of a Monster".  Beth has not gone by "Holloway-Twitty" or "Twitty" since Jug and her divorced in January, 2007.  Maybe there is a reason.

Janet

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Sad News from Mountain Brook, AL … Jug and Beth Twitty Divorcing
Posted January 5, 2007 by Scared Monkeys

Comments

168.  JUG TWITTY on January 8th, 2007 9:27 am
 
I HAVE READ ALL THE COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT.REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE MAY THINK I STILL LOVE BETH,MATT,AND NATALEE.I WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR THEM.I PRAY FOR CLOSURE EVERYNIGHT SO BETH CAN REST.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/01/05/sad-news-from-mountain-brook-al-jug-and-beth-twitty-divorcing/


'Scarborough Country' for July 14
updated 7/15/2005 11:45:26 AM ET

<snipped>
 
Beth and I have been through this emotional roller coaster. And all we want is Natalee, whether she’s alive or dead. We want to bring her back to the United States, and we’ll leave and they can do whatever they want to do.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551824/


Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
by Beth Holloway

Page 227:  Jug has supported me through this entire nightmare.  And we have done everything we can.

U.S. Man Faces Aruba Judge in Case of Missing Woman
Published August 31, 2011

Gary Giordano of Maryland has been jailed nearly a month, since the disappearance of Robyn Gardner. Police and prosecutors on the Dutch Caribbean island need a judge's consent to keep holding him while they continue their probe.

Wednesday's hearing at a prison is closed to the public and news media. Solicitor General Taco Stein says prosecutors believe they have enough evidence to get another 60 days of detention. If the judge rules otherwise, prosecutors are expected to appeal.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/31/us-man-faces-aruba-judge-in-case-missing-woman/

A Mother's Anguish

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Pages 114/115:  Since entrusting Natalee's care to God, I welcome sleep when I can get it.  Nothing in my dreams is worse than my waking hours.  Ironically, sleep takes me out of the nightmare.  No question though, the lack of sleep is having an effect.  After holding it together all day, in front of others and in front of TV cameras, night is when emotions spiral out of control.

Feeling was unleased at the Cross, and it is a being of its own.  It can soothe me, and it can torment me.  It empowers me.  Yet I throw things when I'm alone in the room.  Shoes, Apples from a fruit basket.  Whatever is within reach when the urge strikes.  Sometimes the crying is inconsolable, and I hug the purple duffel bag.  Over and over I just hug it.

When Jug and I are in Natalee's room by ourselves, we kneel and pray together for her, staring at her picture on the bedside table.  We keep the light on.  Just like all parents do when they're waiting for their children to come home.

Another day passes.  And tomorrow and the next day and the next we'll put on our game faces and do it all over gain until we find her.


NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT
Loving Natalee
http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx

We Can Fix Her

NANCY GRACE
Aired June 7, 2005 - 20:00:00   ET

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GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF MISSING GIRL: I hope, I pray to God that she walks through that door or that we find her somewhere. I don`t care if she`s, you know, in a crack house somewhere and she`s been drugged up for, you know, seven days or whatever. We can work with that. We can fix her. We can do whatever to get her back.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/07/ng.01.html

Video:  "Me & Mr. Jones On Natalee-Island" movie trailer--we probably saw this already.
Video:  WITHIN TEMPTATION's video--contains exclusive preview scenes.                                       

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=162618

WITHIN TEMPTATION To Perform At 'Me & Mr Jones On Natalee-Island' Movie Premiere - Aug. 30, 2011

Dutch symphonic metallers WITHIN TEMPTATION will perform their song "Where Is The Edge" at the premiere of the "Me & Mr Jones On Natalee-Island" movie during the 31st Dutch Film Festival on September 22.

In this film, an undercover journalist Remi is starting a quest to find Natalee Holloway five years after her disappearance. Together with Eva, a terminal call-girl, he's trying to solve this case by breaking into Joran Van Der Sloot's house. This is just the beginning of a series of events with fatal consequences.

 ::snipping2::

WITHIN TEMPTATION's video for "Where Is The Edge" contains exclusive preview scenes from "Me & Mr. Jones", directed by Oscar-winning Dutch director Paul Ruven. The movie is a thriller inspired by the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruba, the island where also the movie itself was secretly shot.

 ::snipping2::

Considering Gary Giorgano is not the son an Aruban/Dutch elite ... could it be that justice will prevail for Robyn Gardner?.

Janet

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Still Guarded

JOY BEHAR SHOW
Aired August 18, 2011 - 22:00   ET

<snipped>

HILL: The Aruban authorities continue investigating.

Beth, when you look at the steps that had been taken. They`ve stopped him. I mean he went passed the Aruban -- sort of arm of law and they were able to bring him back in. Do you get a sense that perhaps they`re doing a better job?

HOLLOWAY: I do. I`m still guarded though and I do hope they prove me wrong and show me what Dutch law can really do with a perpetrator on their island. I am very encouraged so far. So I just want to -- just see how this proceeds.
 
<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/18/joy.01.html

Aruba Judge Extends Detention of U.S. Suspect in Missing Woman Case
Published August 31, 2011 | FoxNews.com

(http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/World/396/223/gardner.jpg)
AP

This undated handout photo, released by the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on Tuesday, Aug. 9, 2011, shows Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Maryland.

A judge in Aruba has ruled authorities can continue to detain a U.S. man while they investigate the presumed death of his travel companion.

 ::snipping2::

Giordano has been held nearly a month since he reported 35-year-old Robyn Gardner disappeared while snorkeling. The ruling extends his detention for 60 more days.

 ::snipping2::

The judge's ruling has not been made public, but a statement from prosecutors describes the decision.

"We have faith and confidence in the Aruban Authorities and FBI, and know that they will fervently continue their efforts to find Robyn," said Andrea Colson, Gardner's mother said in a statement following the sentence.

"We are grateful for their hard work and we are also grateful for the overwhelming support from communities all around the world. This has been such a difficult time for all of us and your prayers have given us strength. We need to find our daughter," she continued.

"We pray that anyone who knows what happened that day will find the strength to contact authorities immediately. And we continue to ask everyone to keep praying for our Robyn so that she will be found soon," she said.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/31/aruba-judge-extends-detention-us-suspect-in-missing-woman-case/#ixzz1We8G9yzb

http://www.solv.nl/weblog/joran-van-der-sloot-een-merk/18379

Google translation

Joran van der Sloot A TRADEMARK?
"Joran van der Sloot a brand?
Posted on: August 31, 2011
Posted by: Menno Heerma van Voss
Posted in: Trademarks

 ::snipping2::

It is true that the mother's name "Joran van der Sloot" is registered as a word mark in the European Union. The name "Joran" is not registered. I'm only assume that it was filed out of profound maternal love, to thus prevent certain people will misuse the name of Joran van der Sloot and that it is not registered to the name itself to exploit.

It is a misconception that with a trademark registration owned any use of that sign - especially if the sign consists of an existing name - can counter.

The European brands really offers protection only against the use of the registered word / character as a brand as a sign to distinguish goods or services - and not against the use of the sign as the name of a person. Even if the movie title "Joran" had been, it was difficult to counter, because a title not easily seen as a mark.

The Benelux Trademark (but now is not registered) program provides additional protection against uses other than as distinctive (and brand), such as business name, title or seconds as domain names. But such use should be prejudice or unfair advantage or use that can be drawn from the reputation or distinctive character of the mark.
Although Joran undeniably a certain reputation and distinctive name (everyone knows who he is), the use of the name as a title or name of a character not infringe.
After all, Joran van der Sloot has not been the brand of a particular product or service reputation or distinctive character, but the name was only known as a person because he was frequently in the news. That reputation and distinctiveness are not the purpose of trademark protection.

It is different if an artist because of his / her own performance a name / reputation on which his / her name as a distinctive point for his / her character and performance (services or related products).

 ::snipping2::

HLN News and Views



HLNTV HLN News and Views
http://twitter.com/#!/hlntv (http://twitter.com/#!/hlntv) Edit to add link.  MB
MORE: #Joran van der Sloot charged with first degree murder and theft. Full details today on #HLN.


It's about time.

OS

HLN News and Views

HLNTV HLN News and Views
http://twitter.com/#!/hlntv (http://twitter.com/#!/hlntv)
Breaking: Joran van der Sloot officially charged in Peru in death of Stephany Flores. Prosecutors seek 30-year sentence.


OS

Edit to add link for those that want to follow on twitter

 ::justice2NJ::

Van der Sloot formally charged in murder case
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 1, 2011 -- Updated 1553 GMT (2353 HKT)

CNN) -- Peruvian authorities have charged Joran van der Sloot with murder in the case of the death of a Peruvian woman.

Van der Sloot was arrested in June of last year, but was not formally charged until Thursday.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/01/peru.van.der.sloot/

Van der Sloot formally charged in murder case
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 1, 2011 -- Updated 1553 GMT (2353 HKT)

<snipped>

Prosecutors are asking for a 30-year prison sentence and a restitution of $73,000 to the family of Stephany Flores. They also charged van der Sloot with theft.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/01/peru.van.der.sloot/

I'm glad to see the prosecution bring charges against Joran, before the 18 month period Mr. Flores was concerned would expire. 

MuffyBee

Ricardo Flores words seem to imply that the trial has to begin prior to the 18 month expiry date.  I hope that a clarification is forthcoming on this issue.

Anways ... I am anticipating a trial sometime before the end of the year.

 :smt026

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Woman's family wants speedy trial for van der Sloot
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 17, 2011 -- Updated 2200 GMT (0600 HKT

(CNN) -- The family of a slain Peruvian woman is urging prosecutors to file their case against murder suspect Joran van der Sloot, warning that he may be released by December unless the case goes ahead.

"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free,"  Ricardo Flores, the dead woman's father, told CNN.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/17/peru.van.der.sloot/

From one of the article Janet posted, it looks like the drivers that were involved when Joran was fleeing are to be charged:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/01/peru.van.der.sloot/
Van der Sloot formally charged in murder case
September 1, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Charged alongside van der Sloot were three Peruvian drivers who allegedly helped him flee Peru into Chile. Prosecutors want five-year prison sentences for them and fines of about $1,800.
 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyEek::  I thought he just had to be charged before the 18 mo. time period, not that the trial had to begin before that?  Maybe the bringing the charges are part of the trial process and it will be considered timely.  Otherwise, everyone had better get on the stick and get the trial going!!! 

Okay Peruvian prosecutors, let's get this thing rolling!!  Looks like the trial needs to start!

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/01/peru.van.der.sloot/
Van der Sloot formally charged in murder case
September 1, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Earlier this month, Flores' family urged prosecutors to file their case, warning that van der Sloot could be released by December unless the case goes ahead. Under Peruvian law, if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months of his arrest, he is set free.

Investigators delivered their case file to prosecutors in June for a decision on charges.

No date has been set for trial.

 ::MonkeyDance::

Glad to see there's some movement in this case!  YES!!

And so many, including myself, believed that justice would ever happen to Joran in our lifetime.  I now have a little hope the something similar happens to Casey in the future (not wishing for a murder on ANYBODY) and justice is served for Caylee as well. Patience truly is a virtue!  One I am lacking!

 ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/van-der-sloot-formally-charged-in-peruvian-womans-slaying/2011/09/01/gIQASIHfuJ_story.html

Van der Sloot formally charged in Peruvian woman’s slaying
By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, September 1, 12:12 PM

 ::snipping2::

A lawyer for Flores’ family, Edward Alvarez, told The Associated Press he was notified on Thursday that formal charges were filed. He estimated the trial would begin in October.

::snipping2::

 ::justice2NJ::

 
A Measure of Justice

Natalee Holloway's Mom: Aruba Investigators 'Not Following Up on Any Leads'
Wednesday, November 19, 2008

<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.

<snipped

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html
 

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::

Indeed  ::MonkeyJustice::

I have such hope for justice for Stephany and still pray for justice for Natalee.

Thanks to all of you for keeping the fires burning for Joran's victims. What a legacy he's given Aruba, now crazies like him travel there to commit murder - Anita must be so proud.

Hi None!  Good to see you  ::HelloKitty:: 

Video

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/holloway-lawyer-discusses-aruban-legal-process-14426728?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=14426693

Holloway Family Lawyer on Aruba
John Kelly represents missing teenager Natalee Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty.
 03:49 | 09/01/2011

Excellent news!  ::justice2NJ::

See Joran's life crumble.   ::MonkeyDance::  I hope "the powers that be" give him 30+ years.   ::justice2NJ::

About FLIPPPPIN' time!!! 

 ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::

What took so dang long?!?

Hi MuffyBee, thank you. Hugs to all of you!

Just heard the great news!   ::justice2NJ::

It's about time that Joran is finally held accountable for his life of crime.  God Bless Stephany's loved ones and keep them strong. 

Good-bye Joran. 

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Very good news.  It appears that Joran picked the wrong country and the wrong woman to murder to murder there.  I think that he will definitely be found guilty and do the maximum sentence for Peru justice.  I think Mr Flores will see to that for both his daughter and Natalee.  I know this does not ease Beth's heart or mind..but hopefully it helps her feel some relief that he will be tried and then foound guilty of murder so he will continue his prison stay unable to harm anymore young women.
Edit to fix typo-Natalee's name.

I don't think Joran will last long enough in prison to actually finally divulge where Natalee is.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Could it be that negotiations are taking place behind the scenes that imply that Joran van der sloot will be extradicted from Peru to Aruba/Holland to served his sentence for the murder of Stephany Flores.

Joran is holding the ace in the game of cards.

If abandoned in a Peruvian lockup ...

Aruba/Holland realizes that Joran will reveal all regarding the sons of the Aruban/Dutch elite who where involved ... had knowledge regarding the happenings encompassing the demise of Natalee Holloway and ...

Aruba realizes that Joran will reveal all regarding the Aruban/Dutch elite who were participants in the cover up that has prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway and ...

Aruban realizes that Joran will reveal all regarding the dirty little secrets encompassing the Island's underground economy ... the Island's underground economy that an underage Joran was a participant.

Case archive is updated.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Natalee%20Holloway%20-Aruba%20---%20Stephany%20Flores%20-Peru/

First, Joran hasn't even gone to trial yet.  Is the extradition treaty in place?  When it was being discussed, my understanding was it was for Dutch citizens convicted of a crime like possession of or selling drugs and allowing them to finish out the time in the Netherlands.  I don't think it was intended to move a Dutchman that murdered a Peruvian girl to have an easier time in prison.  This case is much different than that of Natalee Holloway.  Peru isn't Aruba.  Joran murdered the daughter of a Peruvian citizen that has money and status.  I have a feeling Joran picked the wrong girl to murder and the wrong country this time.  JMHO

I hope you are right MuffyBee.  However ... I wish I could shake this hinky feeling that Aruba/Holland is working behind the scene attempting to get Joran back on Aruban/Dutch soil.

If I am wrong ... I will rejoice as I eat an entire humble pie.

The next in the chain of events ... THE TRIAL. 

Good Night

Janet

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Ricardo Flores - November, 2010

'Joran lives like a king in jail.  It is shameful what happens in prisons. I think the INPE has to give the same treatment to all criminals.'

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/83737/familia-flores-aseguran-que-joran-van-der-sloot-vive-como-rey
 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08312011_HFRG_MariaTromp.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

Bethsarim Catherine van Koetsveld-Briñez Rather than put this on Aruba, thank the lawyers that found enough reasonable doubt to detain him... Do we watch the same Law and Order Shows? I'm really wondering why you all think that meddling in an investigation is the reasonable course of action and labeling a whole country because in one case there was not enough material evidence to hold... I understand every one wants her to be found... but enough with the aruba bashing
Yesterday at 5:36pm

 ::snipping2::

Tromp Maria mrs. beth what is this? damage control just like those people doing that dirty job for briesen when Natalee went missing, while they all knew what happened to Natalee. Just let the american public give their opinion, if you don't agree with them then just go to our government(Minister of Justice) and ask him to get aid fr abroad to solve all the missing cases, all unsolved crimes and all hidden crimes on this island......i'll keep praying for Robyn and all missing person!
Yesterday at 9:56pm

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyCool:: 

God bless Maria Tromp for speaking the truth.   ::MonkeyAngel::

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/01/joran-van-der-sloot-charged-with-murder-in-peru/

September 1, 2011
Joran van der Sloot charged with murder in Peru
Posted: 02:35 PM ET

 ::snipping2::

From In Session's Jean Casarez:

Peruvian law states that with formal charges being filed, the case now becomes public meaning any court hearings including the trial will be open to the public.  The “investigative” portion of the case conducted by the judge has now concluded. For one year now, the judge has been interviewing witnesses in his chambers and conducting by himself the discovery portion of the case. This information was handed over to prosecutors and they determined what formal charges would be filed. The defense also has all of the information from the court’s investigation.

 ::snipping2::

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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/01/peru.van.der.sloot/

 ::snipping2::

No date has been set for trial. But the Lima-based court said Thursday, in a news release, that a hearing on the case has been scheduled for the morning of September 12.At the hearing, prosecutors will present the charges and van der Sloot's lawyers will be given the chance to respond.

The defendant has received a notice to appear for the proceeding, to which journalists and TV cameras will be allowed access, the court said.

 ::snipping2::

Thanks grace-land!   ::MonkeyGavel::

Thanks Grace

Janet

Klaas....vacation in Peru?  You could practice your court reporter skills!   ::MonkeyWink::

 ::bananadance::

Just kidding, I know how busy you are these days...but I sure wish we had a monkey there to give us first hand information from the court proceedings!

I hate waiting.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::boxingjoran::

YW, texasmom and Janet!  Reporters and TV cameras--yippeeee!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

I hope we get reports from someone other than jinkasauras...  ::MonkeyRoll::

I've still got an attitude about her since the Casey Anthony trial.  She didn't know enough about the case imo, and some of her comments and/or opinions were very frustrating.

jmo

We'll probably end up with Greta or  ::geraldodance::

.....or Geraldo's "special correspondent" --Jose Baez  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyDevil::

Wreck - OMG, that would be sickening   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Please....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::boxingbaez2:: ::geraldodance:: ::boxingbaez2::

Yes it would, I feel like throwing up just thinking about the possibility!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Wooooooooooooo Hoooooooooooooooo!  About time damnit.  Hang this worthless piece of shi$. 

 ::monkeywine2::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10003646.html?tag=page

Well we know it won't be Nancy Grace since she'll be busy dancing with the Stars.


First comes Joran then comes Kalpoes in the court room

Joran Van der Sloot Officially Charged with Murder of Stephany Flores in Peru

<snipped>

According to reports, the trial is supposed to begin in October, 2011. Hopefully Joran will get exactly what he has coming to him. It is really too bad that Aruba never locked up this SOB and took him out of the public. By playing games, corruption and cover up in the death of Natalee Holloway, Joran was allowed and emboldened to kill again.

<snipped>

Posted September 1, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/09/01/joran-van-der-sloot-officially-charged-with-murder-of-stephany-flores-in-peru/comment-page-1/#comment-2674471

The Mother of Natalee Holloway

DR. DREW
Casey Anthony Trial Over but Drama Continues
Aired July 14, 2011 - 21:00   ET

<snipped>

DREW PINSKY:  ... Do you think Casey is like Joran and that she may repeat the behaviors of the past? What do you think?

BETH HOLLOWAY: What I`ve seen with Joran is, even though, they don`t feel as if they`re being held accountable or responsible for their actions, they tend to always go into a downward spiral.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/14/ddhln.01.html


Natalee Holloway's Uncle

private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #749 4/24 -
« Reply #367 on: April 27, 2008, 12:38:30 PM »

I am amazed that the people who love or care for Joran do not yet see that he needs the help that can only be provided by him going to the authorities and telling the entire truth. Being rejected by society, labled as a criminal, all are taking a horrible toll on Joran that is going to fuel his addictions and push him further and further into a self destructive lifestyle. I would think his mother would recognize Joran's needs, and see the benefit he would gain even from incarceration. Isn't an investment of five or so years worth a return of the rest of Joran's life? .... 

It is very telling that Beth's life is getting brighter every day, considering her loss, yet Joran the boy who "got away with it" is descending deeper and deeper into a self convicted sentence of life without parole unless he confesses. He will never, never be able to move on from this without repentance. Corny, yes, self serving, yes I want him to tell the truth, but is it the absolute truth, the absolute gospel, yes. Surprise, no, it is as the Bible teaches.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2804.msg377586#msg377586

Was Joran's confession recorded/videotaped?  Who were present?

Janet

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Dutch newspaper says Joran van der Sloot retracted murder confession in death of Peru woman
Updated: Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:20 AM

AMSTERDAM -- A Dutch newspaper that interviewed Joran van der Sloot in his prison cell says he has retracted his confession in the killing of a young woman in Peru.

De Telegraaf says the 22-year-old Dutchman says he only signed papers admitting killing Stephany Flores because he was intimidated during interrogation and had been promised he would be transferred to the Netherlands.

<snipped>

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/dutch_newspaper_says_joran_van.html

s.t.

Hi Janet, yes there was a confession, within the 1st nite, upon his return back to Peru, from Chile.  I have seen it on various news sites and it was posted on SM.  Interrogation was in Spanish  by LE and a court appointed attorney present.  Once he retained his own attorny, he backed off his confession, stating there was not a legitimate attorney present,  and he didn't understand Spanish very well, (if you beleive that!)  I would go hunt around for some links, but am at work, getting ready to leave.  I'm sure another kind monkey(s), will locate it faster than I.

Thanks Dihannah1

What you have posted ... I do have backup but ... considering nothing forthcoming from the lips of Joran van der Sloot can be believed ... what I would like to know if there is any official affirmation of his claim that he was promised a transfer to the Netherlands in return for his confession ... something akin to a recording/video/witness.

When it is considered that the case is going forward ... it makes sense that the prosecutor is confident that the confession and/or evidence will convict Joran for the murder of Stephany Flores.

Thanks again Di.  It has been a while.  How are you doing?

Janet

 

SELF-EDIT - MY LAST POST

something akin to a recording/video s/b something akin to a recording/video/witness


I fixed it = San

Thanks San

I see ya lurking in the forums but you are so quiet.  I hope all is well.

Janet

When you see San lurking, it's one of three reasons:

1.  She is at work and not supposed to be lurking  ::MonkeyCool::
2.  She stayed home and didn't want me to know  ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
3.  She has nothing to say (this is a very rare occurrence as you know  ::MonkeyHaHa:: )

 ::piggy::

I think I get it!!

September 2, 2011 8:47 AM
Van der Sloot murder count: Holloway case impact

<snipped>

CBS' Jan Crawford noted Natalee Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway, has issued a statement saying there is plenty of evidence in this case to back up the murder charge, and she commended authorities for their work. She said in the statement, "Perhaps now, justice will be served."

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/02/earlyshow/main20100881.shtml

September 2, 2011 8:47 AM
Van der Sloot murder count: Holloway case impact

<snipped>

Casarez said there may be some relief for Beth Holloway, but said she must have mixed emotions, because she still doesn't know what exactly happened to her daughter.

"The family of Stephany Flores, I spoke with them yesterday, they're happy formal charges have been filed. They know what happened to Stephany, as horrible as it was, but Natalee's mother doesn't have those answers."

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/02/earlyshow/main20100881.shtml

Statement from Beth Holloway

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Joran Van Der Sloot Charged with Murder
Aired September 1, 2011 - 19:00:00   ET

<snipped>

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, just into ISSUES we have a statement on Joran being charged with murder in Peru from Beth Holloway. And I want to read it to you. We just got it.

"God bless the Peru authorities for handling this, thoroughly and professionally. They have faced criticism and threats of lawsuits from the defendant`s side, and they have stuck to their guns. And good for them. It`s clear that there was a mountain of evidence to back up this murder charge, and the authorities did a good job of processing the crime scene and making sure the details were in place so maybe now justice will be served, and maybe the Flores family will have some feeling of relief."

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1109/01/ijvm.01.html

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Some recent docs in the Kalpoe Dr. Phil case:

Regarding the NFI report on the Skeeters tape.....NOTE:  Internet version obtained from BlogsForNatalee

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Wonder why SCRUX is not mentioned here ::MonkeyHaHa::

Schipper Deposition:

Good friends with Dilma Arends

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* ROGER REDMOND AKA SCRUX POSTED JANUARY 20, 2006
"i received the recording directly from the Aruba Police Department. I was told that it is exactly what was provided to the NFI (Netherlands Forensic Institute) and verified as having not been manipulated in any way. It was my understanding that the same recording that I received had also been provided (prior to my receiving it) to the major media networks and cable channels, and while some networks broadcast tiny segments (and often misinterpreted those), none of them hosted the entire recording on their websites
http://www.scrux.com/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=118

Schipper Deposition:

Got interview from Dompig

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Schipper Depo - works for ATA, AHATA, Task Force

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According to the court document the NFI did not analyze the Dr. Phil Skeeters tape, but a tape from
the internet that they got from BlogsForNatalee.



ARLENE ELLIS SCHIPPER, ARUBAN STRATEGIC COMM. TASK FORCE: Well, it's not what I think, it is what the Dutch forensic institute thinks and what we have also requested the FBI to confirm, which confirmation we haven't received yet. However, the NFI had four investigators separately look at these tapes, and they say that the Dr. Phil show tapes were edited for content in the following order. Just before the word she, there was a cut. And just after the word did, there was a cut. And then they compared it to the CD-ROM that Mr. Skeeters sent the officials, and you have seen that piece, and it says, No, she didn't. And he shakes his head while doing while saying that. 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/ 


SCHIPPER TRIES TO TELL US THIS IS NOT THE ARUBAN TAPE, IT WAS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE CD ROM THAT MR. SKEETERS SENT TO THE POLICE

SCHIPPER: First of all -- well, he said -- I saw the viewing. I saw the CD-ROM, and he says, No, she didn`t, and he nods his head. He shakes his head no. He
has nonverbal communication confirming his denial. However, I want to set something straight. You keep calling this the Aruban tape. This is not the Aruban tape. 

DIMOND: Where did it come from? 

SCHIPPER: Yes, we sent it to you, but it was taken directly from the CD-ROM that Mr. Skeeters sent to the police here, and that is... 

<snip>
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0512/01/ng.01.html 

Kermit - left a little message for you over in Musings  ::MonkeyCool::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9150.msg1466314#new

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9215.msg1316178#msg1316178

READ THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER WANTS US TO BELIEVE AND THE TRUTH
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9630.msg1352740#msg1352740

Thanks Klaas

Janet

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ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER - MEDIA SPOKESPERSON

NANCY GRACE
What Did Deepak Kalpoe Tell Investigators?
Aired December 1, 2005 - 20:00:00   ET

<snipped>

ARLENE ELLIS SCHIPPER, ARUBAN TASK FORCE SPOKESPERSON: Thank you.

DIMOND: ... first of all, what is this task force you`re speaking on behalf of?

SCHIPPER: Well, the task force is a combination of concerned people of Aruba, as well as the government. And what we are doing is actually constantly monitoring this case and finding and promoting the truth and stimulating everything, from both support to the family...

DIMOND: But it`s not just -- you don`t speak for the police and the prosecution.

SCHIPPER: No.

DIMOND: You also speak for the merchants and the hotel operators on the island?

SCHIPPER: I do.

DIMOND: Don`t you think that`s a little bit in conflict there?

SCHIPPER: No.

DIMOND: I mean, aren`t we after the truth and not really worrying what the hotel managers want?

SCHIPPER: We are after the truth because Aruba has nothing to gain with not telling the truth or covering up. Aruba wants to get this case solved.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0512/01/ng.01.html

Hi Kermit-

She would make an excellent politician right? *eyes rolling*

Klaas

Does does the documents include an investigative report by the FBI?

Thanks

Janet

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'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 7:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS SCHIPPER, ARUBAN STRATEGIC COMM. TASK FORCE: Well, it's not what I think, it is what the Dutch forensic institute thinks and what we have also requested the FBI to confirm, which confirmation we haven't received yet.  However, the NFI had four investigators separately look at these tapes, and they say that the Dr. Phil show tapes were edited for content in the following order. Just before the word “she,” there was a cut. And just after the word “did,” there was a cut. And then they compared it to the CD-ROM that Mr. Skeeters sent the officials, and you have seen that piece, and it says, “No, she didn't.” And he shakes his head while doing—while saying that.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/

Janet - we are still going thru the docs.  I'll post it if I see it.  So far no.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Hi None.

How you doing?

I thought of you on Wednesday when I placed an order at Safeway for 5 dozen cookies for an upcoming family gathering.

Janet

Thanks Klaas

Janet

Nonesuche

so good to see you

from the court documents p.50 - Arlene states: "I got it [the Skeeters tape] from Dompig"

Court documents p 62 - ARELENE STATES THAT THE PROSECUTOR ANSWERS TO THE TASK FORCE!

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Ribbit!

In the court document Defend Motion Depo when Arlene Ellis-Schipper is asked to turn over the emails, documents etc to Dr. Phil attorney's - Kalpoe attorney tried to claim that Arlene Ellis-Schipper has attorney client privlege because she works for Aruba Tousim. PAGE 57 - She states she worked for ATA, AHATA, Chamber of Commerce.
AHATA paid her bills & then Chamber of Commerce paid her bills.

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PAGE 65 - Arlene Ellis-Schipper states that she is GOOD FRIENDS with DILMA ARRENDS

for Stephany who didn't have to die - it was ARUBAS FAULT FOR COVERING UP!


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Aruba
US still drives business to Aruba after Holloway case closed
By Hazel Heyer | Jan 16, 2008

eTN caught up with Aruba’s minister of tourism and transportation, Edison Briesen, who said the island is back in business despite the revival of the Holloway incident, which has become fodder for the media.

eTN: Has this been a big challenge to tourism?

Briesen: Among all challenges we’ve faced, including airlift, US economy slowdown, gas prices etc, this particularly has taken up our time and resources. Everybody got involved in this case.  People from the tourism department have been moved to the justice department to help solve the disappearance.  This incident has kept us ‘hostage’ for more than a year. In 2006, we even launched an ad campaign worth $5 M in the US to counter the negative broadcast. On the other side of the coin, more people now know about Aruba. But I would not want Aruba to be known in the same way Iraq is known. One reason why we think it has been a hard blow to us.

<snipped>

http://www.eturbonews.com/865/us-still-drives-business-aruba-after-holloway-case-closed


Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 158:  Not long after the "criminals speech," some Arubans back off their prayer vigils for Natalee.  A few protest in the streets against the barage of negative media.  We've worn out our welcom at the Holiday Inn.  And they let us know they've had it.  The Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA), the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA), the Aruba Trade and Industry Association and a scattering of island officials establish the Strategic Communications Task Force to combat the negative media.  And to combat us.

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Thank you Klass for posting those documents.

It appears that between the Stephany Flores trial and the finale' of the Kalpoe's defamation lawsuit against Dr. Phil ... the next few months on the Natalee Holloway forum is going to be very interesting.

Good Night

Janet
6:45 PM PT

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

You are right with all three as usual.  I really haven't had much to say lately and I just keep quiet.  Everyone else does such a great job.

I agree.  Have a good night Janet.

Thanks San

American friends from the South are arriving tomorrow for a five day visit.  It's been a busy evening cleaning House.  Hubby is vacuuming.  I don't want them to think that I spend all my time on the computer.

 ::monkeydust::

Janet

THANK YOU Klaas, Kermit, and anonymous monkey (that purchases court documents for Klaas to share with us)!

Interesting!   ::MonkeyCool::

www.facebook.com

Kiwanis Club Palm Beach Board Installation 2010-2011

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Arlene Ellis-Schipper and Dilma Arends Geerman

www.facebook.com

Kiwanis Club Palm Beach Board Installation 2010-2011

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Arlene Ellis-Schipper, Dilma Arends Geerman, Omar de Souza, John Eloy Arends

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Thank you from me too!!!   ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance::
 ::bee::

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20525354,00.html

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 ::snipping2::

Thank you for posting the article Klaas.  Five years later, Beth is still standing up and speaking out not only for Natalee, but other victims as well.   ::MonkeyGavel:: 

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/3-victims-3-exotic-locales-3-mysteries/tjiaHJhfC0-4_17Nen6egw.cspx

3 victims, 3 exotic locales, 3 mysteries
         
Print Story Published: 8:32 am Share Updated: 9:06 am     

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The Robyn Gardner disappearance on Aruba resonates here in Alabama because of eerie similarities to two other cases. 

The disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway on a graduation trip to Aruba in 2005 became an international sensation as Aruban authorities questioned but never charged local teen Joran van der Sloot in the case.  Van der Sloot went on to years of notoriety punctuated by false "confessions" and wild claims on Dutch TV before surfacing again as the confessed murderer of a Peruvian student he met at a Lima poker tournament.  Van der Sloot was finally formally charged last week with killing 21 year old Stephany Flores.  Her corpse was found in his Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee's disappearance.

The other case with strange vibes to Gardner's disappearance is the drowning death of Tina Watson on her honeymoon in Australia.    Husband Gabe Watson was charged with murder in her death but did a guilty plea on manslaughter charges and served 18 months in an Australian prison.  He was extradited back to Alabama to face murder charges here.  State prosecutors claim he conspired to kill Tina for an insurance payout.  Watson is out on bail awaiting trial on those charges.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/119510/caso-van-der-sloot-sera-revisado-diez-dias

Google translation

Saturday, September 3, 2011
Van Der Sloot case will be reviewed in ten days
Dutch has more than one year in jail without trial.

Judge Flor de Maria Poma convened on September 12 a new hearing where Dutch is the murderer face to face with the family of Stephany Flores.

Van Der Sloot has more than one year in prison, without receiving any sentence. Recently Joran Van der Sloot has been charged in a tax form by Miriam Rivera on charges of simple murder and theft against Stephany Flores.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/natalee_face_off_gYxTwPd7wU8tfJZSfkITiN

A Tale of Two Murders: Joran Van der Sloot Charged with Murder of Stephany Flores … Beth Holloway Says, “God bless the Peru authorities for handling this thoroughly and professionally”

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/09/04/a-tale-of-two-murders-joran-van-der-sloot-charged-with-murder-of-stephany-flores-beth-holloway-says-god-bless-the-peru-authorities-for-handling-this-thoroughly-and-professionally/

Call it a tale of two crimes and the tale of how two countries handled the same crime in complete contrast manners. One country lets a sociopath loose on the rest if society to kill again, the other one rightfully charges him with murder and cages the criminal protecting society.


 ::snipping2::

Thanks Red, great post!   ::MonkeyCool::

Stephany Flores did not have to die.  Aruba has to take responsibility for her shed blood at the hands of Joran van der sloot.

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'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 21st
updated 10/23/2005 4:46:55 PM ET

<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: They never—they never wanted to implicate these three young men.  They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. ....

<snipped>

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/

http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/09/04/robyn-gardner-can-a-psychic-see-her-way-through-the-mysterious-mists-of-the-aruba-triangle/

Robyn Gardner: Can A Psychic See Her Way Through The Mysterious Mists Of The “Aruba Triangle” ?
Posted on September 4, 2011 by Psychic Carla Baron

 ::snipping2::

I am not reading a tale from the latest best-selling crime novel.

No, this horror story is REAL.  All too real.
 

Her name is Robyn Gardner.



The predator companion is Gary Giordano.

 

You may recall an earlier version of this same scary story featuring the female victim, Natalee Holloway. The male predator – none other than accused killer, Joran van der Sloot, who is currently residing in a Peruvian prison, formally charged with first-degree murder in last year’s killing of a university student (Stephany Flores) whom he met at a Lima casino. They are seeking a 30-year jail sentence.
 
 
Enter the Psychic Profiler.
 
 
The hit paranormal crime series, “Haunting Evidence,” (truTV) was my introduction to the island of Aruba, regarding the disappearance of a beautiful young, blonde teenage girl named Natalee, wide-eyed with wonder for what her future life may hold.

During our filming on this isle just off the coast of Venezuela, not only was the terrain rougher than expected … but we were not exactly welcomed by the authorities.

In fact, the final night of filming on the beach – 2 of our crew members were sitting in the local jail. The authorities even wanted to search our hotel rooms because they were paranoid about some customs paperwork apparently misplaced, documenting our production trunks shipped via Fedex. (It’s a super long story.)

I would now like to extend my sincerest gratitude to our amazing, loyal hotel staff for protecting all our rooms & all our private things from this invasive attempted room search.

(So great they were!)
 
 
We barely had 90 minutes to “get it all,” while officers who lined the beach location where we were filming prompted us with sidearms to move it along.

(In other words. .. Get the hell out!)

 ::snipping2::

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1269703/noticia-defensa-stephany-flores-acusacion-fiscal-debil-favorece-van-der-sloot

Google translation

Defense Stephany Flores: "Indictment is weak and favors Van der Sloot"
Edward Alvarez said the MP did not take into account the survey carried out to the computer of the Dutch, who "destroyed" the hypothesis of violent crime by emotion

Sunday September 4, 2011 - 9:41 a.m.
MARTINEZ ORTIZ SEBASTIAN @ Shebas07

After almost a year and three months of the crime of Stephany Flores Ramirez, prosecutors presented on Friday August 26 the judiciary charges against Joran Van der Sloot, the confessed murderer of 22 year old. However, according to the defense of the family of the university, the complaint by Miriam Castellares Riveros, head of the Prosecutor's Office Ninth Criminal Court, is "weak" and "favors" to the Dutch citizen.

Riveros Castellares requested in his indictment, which had access elcomercio.pe, Van der Sloot received a sentence of 30 years in prison for crimes against life, body and health as a form of murder, and against equity for simple theft to the detriment of Flores Ramirez. In the document, the prosecutor tells the events from crime to the steps taken over 15 months of research, but the foundation of the sentence does not explain what the motive for the murder, nor refers to the audit by the Division of Advanced Technology (Divindat) of the National Police in the laptop of a professional poker player.

In this analysis to the laptop, Divindat found that consultations on the machine on the Case of Natalee Holloway, whose disappearance in Aruba in 2005 is attributed to Van der Sloot, occurred between 1:25 pm and 6:45 p.m. of May 29, 2010, ie the day before the crime. With this, the thesis of Dutch, which holds that killed the girl because she found information from Holloway, collapsed, said family attorney Flores, Edward Alvarez.

Speaking to this website, Alvarez Riveros said Castellares has not taken this into account the "preponderant" and no communication over the Internet that had the Dutch, now imprisoned in Castro Castro, with his friend Stan Pluijmen, who asked paid 40 euros and said it was able to do anything for money. "And that anything made: Stephany killed," added the lawyer.

ASK Shawshank Redemption
For Alvarez, the public prosecutor's complaint should have been for aggravated robbery followed by death, the penalty is life imprisonment, for "Van der Sloot goal was to take money from Stephany, she resisted and he killed her, but the Riveros fiscal Castellares say what was the motive for the murder (...) there is not. "

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 HELP!  The article is interesting and long.  Should I post the second half of the article?  TIA

I can do translated screen shots if that would help?

Thank you, texasmom!  ::MonkeyKiss::   ::MonkeyDance::

It might take a little while, my internet has been very slow today.  But I'll post them asap!

 ::MonkeyCool::

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1269703/noticia-defensa-stephany-flores-acusacion-fiscal-debil-favorece-van-der-sloot

Google translation:

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THE STEPHANY FLORES CASE

The Laptop
March 28, 2011 11:55 AM

Joran van der Sloot Laptop Lie? Peru police say computer exposes lie in Stephany Flores killing

CBS/AP) LIMA, Peru - A study of Joran van der Sloot's laptop shows he is lying when he says he killed a young Peruvian woman in a fit of rage after she discovered his connection to Natalee Holloway's disappearance while using the computer, a senior Peruvian police official said Friday.

Stephany Flores did not view any such information on the laptop after accompanying Van der Sloot to the Lima hotel room where she was killed on May 30, the technology chief of Peru's police, Col. Oscar Gonzales, told The Associated Press.

"She didn't view anything about Holloway. It's a lie that she tried to ask him about (the case)," Gonzales said.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20047862-504083.html


The Laptop

Murder of Stephany Flores in Peru: Joran Van der Sloot Lying Again … Laptop Study Shows that Searches on Natalee Holloway Much Earlier in the Day

<snipped>

... Now Van der Sloot, the Dutch Sporter is lying to save his bacon in Peru in the death of Stephany Flores. Van der Sloot has claims that he murdered Flores in a fit of passion and rage after discovering that she had violated his privacy and has looking up information on his laptop in connection with the death of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

<snipped>

Posted March 26, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/03/26/murder-of-stephany-flores-in-peru-joran-van-der-sloot-lying-again-laptop-study-shows-that-searches-on-natalee-holloway-much-earlier-in-the-day/


The Laptop

“Van der Sloot went on gambling after murder
”Published on 25 March 2011 - 6:15pm

Joran van der Sloot may have spent the night playing online poker after murdering Stephany Flores, according to Peruvian forensic investigators who have carried out a detailed examination of his laptop.

The detectives also found that Flores did not search for information on Natalee Holloway immediately before the murder, as Van der Sloot claims. The laptop was used to search for details of the Holloway case, but much earlier in the day, Dutch website Crimesite reports. Van der Sloot says he killed Flores in a fury when he saw she was reading about his alleged involvement in Holloway’s disappearance.

Between 04.24 and 08.23 Van der Sloot’s laptop was in use, with a number of pauses, and two poker websites were visited. This could suggest Van der Sloot went on playing poker after murdering Flores. Another possibility is that the murder took place after the poker games were finished. This would mean the killing did not take place during a row shortly after the two returned to the hotel at 05.30, as he claimed in his initial statement to the police.

Crime of passion

Van der Sloot says that after an evening at the casino he and Flores returned to the hotel at her suggestion to go on playing poker. When he checked his e-mail he found hate mail relating to his alleged involvement in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, he says. When he returned to the room after fetching coffee, he claims he found Flores using his laptop to look for information on the Holloway case, and lost his temper.

Van der Sloot’s defence lawyer argues he killed Flores in the heat of the moment when the row turned into a physical fight. The murder was therefore not premeditated but a ‘crime of passion’. But the data on the laptop shows the search for information on Holloway, said to have prompted the row, took place much earlier in the day, during the afternoon.

<snipped>

http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/%E2%80%9Cvan-der-sloot-went-gambling-after-murder%E2%80%9D

s.t.

I can't believe what is happening with the case in Peru and Joran.  He might go free in 9 years!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Here's another article about the indictment --

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/2892069/2011/09/05/Aanklacht-Van-der-Sloot-zwak-en-gunstig-voor-Joran.dhtml

http://arubaherald.com/local/983-prison-guard-caught-smuggling-blackberry-phones-into-kia.html

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Diario says 2 Blackberry's

KIA guard caught by CEA personnel bringing in two Blackberry's and a charger hidden in his sandwich (s)?

http://www.diario.aw/2011/09/cea-a-gara-cuidador-di-preso-drentando-kia-cu-dos-blackberry-scondi-den-pan/

Papiamentu translation:

cea owing to grab cuidador of preso (prison guard) drentando kia cu two blackberry scondi in bread

publication: monday, 5 september 2011.

categoria: general

oranjestad(aan): saturday morning alrededor of 7or the personal attentive of cea stop at door of kia owing to sorprende (catch) one cuidado of preso (prisoner guard) cu 2 blackberry good scondi in his sandwich. separa of the apparatus for comunica, the was have the chargernan also. is deal here of the ambtenaar javier ras cu have some year end trahando in institute coreccional aruba y cu owing to stay deteni at once y entrega at police for more investigacion. the asunto here is very earnest y for of enough year end was have atencion of esunnan responsible for cuida the institute.

the problem is cu everybody know cu is the same cuidadonan of preso (guard of prisoner) is trece blackberry eyden y sell cu the presonan (prisoners). but the problem is cu for garanan is dificil. majority trip is hinca the celular in one saco of plastic y sconde this in cuminda of the trahado, tapa below ; rice y sauce.

for her personal of cea is dificil y even contra ley for exigi of the personal of kia for they touch in his cuminda buscando articulonan prohibi. one solucion will is for prohibi the empleadonan for come trabao cu cuminda but esey will nifica the hour cu is kia self will have to percura for cuminda for his empleadonan. without doubt the will pisa on the presupuesto of the institute. one another solucion, esun more factibel, is for instala one apparatus for blokia sign of celular in the institute.

in pasado owing to arrive of hacie but the apparatus was blokia one area mucho big, consecuentemente the was stroba the bisiñanan also of ricibi or haci call via celular. is think cu have to have one apparatus in cual is blokia the sign of celular in one area more diminutive. so is evita the asunto of enter cu celular in form ilegal in jail.

saturday morning at once owing to cuminsa two trayecto at instant of grab javier ras cu celular model blackberry scondi in his bread. the first is the trayecto disciplinario, in cual owing to prohibi his entrance in kia can will soon already so can realisa one investigacion inner on the asunto here. the another trayectoria cu is march simultaneamente is esun penal, cu police y landsrecherche will haci for so determina for that the owing to bay take away the celularnan here, cuanto they're page for her trabao ey y if the is form part kizas of one organizacion criminal.

cu the detencion of saturday morning have to bay one sign cla for her personal of kia y cea, cu have to come one reorganizacion y re evaluacion of all the personal. minister mr. drs. arthur dowers will have to cuminsa think in “screen” all the personal, of director till downstairs, for sigura cu esunnan cu is work eyden is empleadonan integro, intachable y capas for accomplish cu they funcion. de will contrario will have to busca one another handicraft in gobierno.

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http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/2892069/2011/09/05/Aanklacht-Van-der-Sloot-zwak-en-gunstig-voor-Joran.dhtml

Google translation:

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Texasmom, thank you for posting the translated article.  The outcome of the September 12 hearing should be interesting.  The family is determined to find justice.  I'm still waiting for justice for Stephany and Natalee!   ::justice2NJ::

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/2892069/2011/09/05/Aanklacht-Van-der-Sloot-zwak-en-gunstig-voor-Joran.dhtml

Google translation:

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"He is described as a professional poker player with no criminal record in Peru or abroad. That is to his advantage. " On paper it seems that Joran has a spotless reputation, despite the suspicions of his involvement in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The American teenager disappeared in 2005, but her body was never found. "That is why there 25 years is required, instead of the usual 35 years in the case of murder." "And this means that if she correctional advantages to what we hope of course, he has been in nine years out of prison can go, "said counsel for the family of the murdered girl.

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http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/11/smn.04.html

CNN SATURDAY MORNING NEWS

Suspect Confesses to Killing Teen in Aruba; Arlene's Rains Drench Florida Panhandle

Aired June 11, 2005 - 09:01   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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CNN has learned a suspect has confessed to killing Natalee Holloway. The American teen vanished in Aruba nearly two weeks ago. We'll have a live report from Aruba in just a few minutes.

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NGUYEN: Up first this hour, CNN has learned that one of three suspects in the Natalee Holloway disappearance has confessed to killing her. Holloway was last seen in Aruba May 30. That's when her high school classmates say she left a bar with three men, all of whom are now in police custody.

CNN's Karl Penhaul joins us now from Aruba with the latest on this investigation.

So is this the break that everyone was hoping for?

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It would seem so, Betty, although police at this stage are playing their cards very close to their chest because of the extreme sensitivity of this case for the island. But shortly before midnight, a senior police officer told CNN that one of the three suspects detained on Thursday had made a confession to the killing of Natalee Holloway. He didn't say which of the three suspects had made that confession.

You'll remember that on Thursday three young men, one 17 years old and two brothers aged 18 and 21, were arrested by police. And their homes were searched, a car was taken away as evidence, along with computer equipment and some other items.

Now, the prime minister of the island has said that he, so far, has not been informed of any confession. At the same time, he says that those able to make statements about this issue are those directly carrying out the investigations. As part of the separation of political powers here, the prime minister, although broadly kept up to date with the pace of investigations, would not be kept up with minute-by-minute developments, as he has told us -- Betty.

NGUYEN: Karl, while no one wanted to hear this, people were interested in hoping to find some clue as to what indeed had happened. As you say, there has been a break in this case, but not what the parents of Natalee Holloway wanted to hear. Have you spoken with them? How are they reacting to this confession?

PENHAUL: No, we haven't been able to speak to Natalee's family at the moment, Betty. They have been staying here in the Holiday Inn, the same hotel where Natalee had been staying during her stay in Aruba.

We've seen them make a brief foray through the lobby of the hotel. That was late last night. Since then we haven't seen them to ask them about this latest news -- Betty.

NGUYEN: And what about the search for Natalee? Now that we have this confession, any indication as to whether this will lead to a search to find Natalee or her remains?

PENHAUL: There had been suggestions even as early as last night a search could get under way to look for possible remains of Natalee Holloway. The prime minister and also police officials then said that the search would not take place last night, but they did say that in the early morning, investigators would continue doing their job. They said that included the question of searching for further evidence, including possible remains -- Betty.

NGUYEN: Now, does that cause a question in your mind? Because we have a confession, but now you're saying there's no search in any particular area. Is that because maybe this confession doesn't detail where Natalee may be?

PENHAUL: We have no further details of the confession, the detail of the confession or the depth of the confession. One must remember that Aruba's police force, while they pursue this investigation very thoroughly, very enthusiastically, it is, nevertheless, a small police force, and we don't know if they are equipped to carry out this type of search during nighttime hours. And that could be a reason why up until now most search operations here on the island during Natalee's disappearance have been conducted during daytime hours -- Betty.

NGUYEN: CNN's Karl Penhaul in Aruba on the latest on this investigation. Thank you, Karl.

Well, the news this morning of a confession came as friends and family from Holloway's hometown offered prayers of hope. In Mountain Brook, Alabama, they gathered for a prayer vigil at a church after midnight. Well-wishers used a candle to light up a wall adorned with messages to the missing teen.

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http://web.archive.org/web/20050613010744/http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/3221042

June 11, 2005, 10:02PM
Suspect: 'Something bad happened' to missing teen

By MICHAEL NORTON
Associated Press

Associated Press
Natalee Holloway, 18, vanished on May 30 while on a trip to Aruba with classmates celebrating her high school graduation.

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — One of the young men detained in the disappearance of an Alabama honors student admitted "something bad happened" to the woman after they took her to the beach, a police officer said, while prosecutors said today the investigation was at a crucial point.

But prosecutors refused to comment on the statement by Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig, who told The Associated Press that the man who made that admission was leading police to the scene. He refused to identify which of the three young men who took Natalee Holloway, 18, to a northern beach the night she went missing made the statement.

Police refused this morning to say whether they discovered anything overnight to solve the mystery of what happened to Holloway, who was last seen in the early hours of May 30.

Referring to Dompig's statement, prosecution spokeswoman Vivian van der Biezen said today: "We neither confirm nor deny any information coming from other sources ... (about) alleged statements of suspects in this case."

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"The investigation at the moment is the following: Five suspects are being held ... and we are at a very crucial, very important moment in our investigation," she said.

Police investigating Holloway's disappearance arrested a man at dawn today but later said he had nothing to do with the case.
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YW grace-land!

I agree the outcome of the Sept 12th hearing should be interesting.

And regardless of what happens in Peru, Joran still has an indictment in the Alabama courts to answer to.

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But before that happens, he should pay for the brutal murder of Stephany Flores in Peru to the full extent of the law.  If he only ends up serving nine years, that is not justice...imo.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

A Liaison

A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 58:  Detective Jacobs asks us to come to the police station in Bubali in about an hour to give our official statements.

Page 59:  Jug, Jodi, and I arrive at Bubali at eight o’clock sharp …

Detective Jacobs is sitting behind the counter in a reclining swivel office chair.  As we move toward him, he leans back in his chair.  “We’re ready to give our statements,” we say, anxious to tell him the facts about Natalee’s disappearance we’ve gathered thus far, so that an investigation can get under way.

Page 60:  He pushes one hand and then the other down and across his belly, which is extended by his rearing back.  He says, “I’ll have to eat my frosted flakes first,” and then, running a hand across his jaw, adds, “and get a shave before I can deal with you.”  And with that he gets up from the chair, exits through the little swinging door, and disappears ….

A half hour passes.  Then an hour.  I wish there was an American law enforcement contact here to help us, someone to act as a liaison.   I get up from the plastic chair, go outside, and sit down in the gravel driveway ….

I’m outside about thirty minutes when another officer, police chief Jan van der Straten, comes out to the driveway and tells me bluntly and curtly to get up.  “You can’t sit in the gravel like this.  Come back inside.”

Inside, two more hours pass …

After almost three hours detective Jacobs comes back into the waiting area and tells me he doesn’t need me today.


Contacts to Assist

Talking To Beth Holloway Five Years After Natalee's Disappearance
05/30/10 1:45 pm

"The Natalee Holloway Resource Center is focusing on education and crime prevention, and in the event that a loved one goes missing we have the resources and the contacts to assist the families."
 
http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/0510/741129.html

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Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
 
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx

Terribly Naive

A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 208-209:  The goal of education is twofold: to bring a message about personal safety to high-school and college students and to educate travellers.

Bad things happen everywhere.  But the difference we need to consider when something bad happens outside the country is the help available for the victims and their families.  When we leave these borders, we leave behind all the privileges and rights we're all accustomed to and often take for granted.  We have expectations that there will be a safety net of law-abiding official, no matter where we travel, or that our US embassy will come to our rescue.  But that's terribly naive.


My Focus

Natalee Holloway: Lost in Paradise
TLC – 2010-01-17

Beth Holloway:

"What I can do is hopefully share some life lessons and prevent this tragedy from happening to another family.  So I stay focused on what I can do rather than what I can’t.  I can’t get justice for Natalee".

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=2.1213.56293


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Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
 
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx

REMINDER

Thursday, September 8, 2011
6:00pm at the First Baptist Church, Statesboro

6th Annual Steak & Burger Dinner - Special Guest Beth Holloway

By her own account Beth lived a quiet, somewhat uneventful life as a speech pathologist (B.S., M.S.P.) for children with special needs for 24 years. Her life changed quite dramatically in the summer of 2005 when her daughter Natalee disappeared on the last night of her senior high graduation trip to Aruba. this tragic story became the leading news mystery when it happened, and continues to make headlines today. Beth has appeared on every television network in the nation as well as on International TV ,radio, and newspapers, capturing the world's attention as she searched for her daughter.

Barbara Walters selected Beth Holloway as one of the world's most fascinating people for her perseverance in seeking answers to happened to Natalee

We look foward to seeing you there!

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Please R.S.V.P. through Mike Backus at (912) 764-9696 or via email at mbackus@bgcbuolloch.org. All proceeds benefit the Boys & Girls Clubs of Bulloch County.

REMINDER

Boys & Girls Club of Bulloch County Announces Fundraising Events

Ogeechee Technical College and ERA Landmark Realty are hosting a Meet and Greet on Thursday, September 8 with Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway.  The buffet style luncheon will be held at the Holiday Inn of Statesboro from 11:45 a.m. until 1:00 p.m.  Tickets are available for purchase, but seating is limited.  The cost is $30.

The Boys and Girls Club of Bulloch County will then hold the 6th annual Steak & Burger Dinner that evening.  Keynote speaker Beth Holloway will deliver her message of hope, faith, and perseverance.  Reserve your seat for $100 or a table of six for $750.

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http://www2.wsav.com/lifestyles/2011/aug/24/1/boys-girls-club-bulloch-county-announces-fundraisi-ar-2317774/


Please R.S.V.P. through Mike Backus at (912) 764-9696 or via email at mbackus@bgcbuolloch.org.

All proceeds benefit the Boys & Girls Clubs of Bulloch County.

A dead man was found about 500 meters out from Eagle Beach.  They say even though he was found in a tourist area, they believe he is a local and that he drowned (of course).

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/36381-curpa-haya-sin-bida-den-lama.html

curpa without life achieve pabou of eagle beach on lama

monday, 05 september 2011 11:50

at platform of beach the boat of police owing to enter cu one curpa without life. this owing to wordo achieve on lama. autoridad also owing to present at the pier where boat of police is mara. owing to cuminsa one investigacion at once on the caso here. one boat of placer owing to come across cu the curpa is drief at 500 metre pabao of eagle beach. at once boat of police owing to go. the person is uno of edad high color cla. the was in type of boxer short. fiscal also owing to present at the lugar. not can owing to see cualkier golpi on the curpa. police is believe cu past owing to hoga. although the curpa owing to wordo hayaden area turistico tog polisnan is believe cu here is deal of one local. dr lin owing to constata dead.

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http://www.awe24.com/20110905/8382/Polis_maritimo_a_saca_un_curpa_sin_bida_cu_tabata_drief_den_lama

Papiamentu translation:

police maritimo owing to saca one curpa without life cu was drief in lama

11 hora happen come across, 5 of september 2011 11:06

monday morning for more or less 10:40 central of police is achieve one call cu the boat alikay will owing to come across cu one curpa is drief more or less 500 metre pabou of eagle beach. police maritimo owing to bay at the sitio y is come come across cu the curpa of a man cu was flota cabes downstairs y do not give sign of life. the curpa is wordo treci ground for her unidad menciona y at once investigacion is cuminsa march. for more or less 11:45 dr. lin is constata dead of the victima for motibonan desconosi, probably hogamento, y the curpa is wordo take in beslag. the investigacion after owing to come leave at cla cu is deal of he, jesus adrian berg naci at adicora venezuela 27 june 1930 y was live at san pedro paviljoen. according informacion ela leave morning early for bay float at lama, as is his custumber, y not owing to go back more. the curpa will wordo investiga if according proceduranan standard for asegura cu do not deal of one crimen. of part of cuerpo poicial y also awe24.com is send words of forza for her family.

http://www.awe24.com/20110905/8389/7_funcionario_policial_a_ricibi_decreto_di_nan_promocion_pa_un_rango_mas_halto

Papiamentu translation:

7 funcionario policial owing to ricibi decreto of they promocion for one rango more high

7 hora happen come across, 5 of september 2011 14:32

alto command of cuerpo policial of aruba diabierna 02 of september 2011 owing to invita seven funcionario policial for entreganan the decreto of they promocion for one rango more high. the meeting did take luga in the sitting-room of meeting at macuarina 65.

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the colega cu owing to ricibi they promocion ta:

- sra. irma gordon cu owing to become alto inspector entrante 01 of january 2010;

- sr. eric soemers owing to wordo promovi for her rango of inspector primera clase by 01 of january 2007 y for alto inspector entrante 01 of january 2010;

- sr. adrick croes owing to become alto inspector entrante 01 of january 2010;

-sr. naldi tromp owing to wordo promovi for her rango of inspector primara clase entrante 01 of march 2010;

- sr. ronny geerman owing to wordo promovi for her rango of inspector primera clase entrante 01 of september 2010; 

-sr. gino winklaar owing to become inspector primare clase entrante 01 of january 2009 y

- sr. fredson panneflek owing to become inspector primera clase entrante 01 of april 2008.

the boss of police, sr. richardson owing to take away word y owing to show the coleganan on the mature cu the rango more alto is come cu more responsabilidad y owing to felicita they cu the promocion. past owing to entrega cada they personalmente they decreto y owing to place the insignia new for they.

on the fotonan adhunto: (1) the photograph of are during the meeting diabierna. (2) sr. naldi tromp; (3) sr. adrick croes.

The photo in the article is credited to scaredmonkeys.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/119745/solo-30-anos-carcel-darian-van-der-sloot

Google translation

Photo: scaredmonkeys.com (Note:  they likely googled and found that photo linking back to SM but SM likely linked back to the original article.  Not our original photo of course)

Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Only 30 years in prison would give Van der Sloot
For the simple larceny and murder against the young Estephany Flores.

Only 30 years and could receive life imprisonment as punishment Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot for simple larceny and murder against the young Estephany Flores, who was murdered in a hotel in Miraflores.

Considering this possibility, the attorney for the murdered girl's family, Edward Alvarez said the heinous crime that merited Dutch prosecutor requested life imprisonment against him for the crime of aggravated robbery followed by death.

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http://trome.pe/actualidad/1275291/noticia-van-der-sloot-no-seria-condenado-cadena-perpetua

Google translation

Tuesday September 6, 2011 - 09:30
Van der Sloot not get life imprisonment
Stephany Flores's murderer would be convicted only 30 years in prison.

The Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot, the murderer of Stephany Flores, could only receive 30 years in prison on charges of simple robbery and homicide, and not as previous imprisonment, due to the controversial prosecutor's request.

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According to the report of ATV News, this questionable prosecutor's request could be ratified definitively on 12 September, when a hearing was held.

http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/74eb58e57a394f6b86dd33b136d28f20/LT--Peru-Van-der-Sloot/ (http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/74eb58e57a394f6b86dd33b136d28f20/LT--Peru-Van-der-Sloot/)

Lawyer in Peru calls prosecution's proposed sentence for Van der Sloot inadequate

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 
    First Posted: September 06, 2011 - 6:07 pm
    Last Updated: September 06, 2011 - 6:07 pm

LIMA, Peru — The family of the Peruvian woman who Joran van der Sloot is charged with killing believes the 30-year prison sentence sought by the prosecution is inadequate.

But the family's lawyer tells The Associated Press that Stephany Flores' family won't object because it doesn't want the trial delayed.

Van der Sloot is to appear Monday before a judge who could set the trial to begin as early as October.
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Lawyer: Van der Sloot should do more time
Published: 5:21 pm

LIMA, Peru (AP) — The family of the Peruvian woman who Joran van der Sloot is charged with killing believes the 30-year prison sentence sought by the prosecution is inadequate.

But the family's lawyer tells The Associated Press that Stephany Flores' family won't object because it doesn't want the trial delayed.

Van der Sloot is to appear Monday before a judge who could set the trial to begin as early as October.

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Lawyer Edward Alvarez says that if the Flores family were to raise objections Monday the trial could be delayed until next year.

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Lawyer-Van-der-Sloot-should-do-more-time/n4jGjxvU5Uam3T8qj29QtA.cspx

Klaas

I didn't realize the contents of both articles were identical.

I apologize.

Janet

NP Janet  ::MonkeyCool::

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http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/09/06/the-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio-%e2%80%93-tuesday-september-6th-2011-%e2%80%93-special-guests-robin-sax-steve-lange-cyril-wecht-dawna-kaufman-and-michael-hingson/

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Giordano back in court in Aruba missing Robyn Gardner case
September 7, 2011 - 09:38 am

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) - A Maryland businessman is going before an appeals court in Aruba, hoping to reverse an order jailing him as a suspect in the presumed death of his travel companion

A spokeswoman for the Aruban prosecutors office says authorities are confident they have enough evidence to continue holding Gary Giordano on the Dutch Caribbean island. But Ann Angela says it's possible the court could order him released immediately.

The three-judge panel is expected to rule at the close of Wednesday's hearing.

Giordano is seeking to overturn an Aug. 31 ruling that ordered him held 60 more days as a suspect in the death of Robyn Gardner.

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http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/09/giordano-back-in-court-in-aruba-missing-robyn-gardner-case-66198.html

Aruba Suspect Gary Giordano Denied Release From Jail Today
Sept. 7, 2011

Gary Giordano was denied release from an Aruba jail today as ABC News obtained evidence showing Giordano's eager calls to cash in on the life insurance policy of missing woman Robyn Gardner.

"(He) sounded excited, like he was about to win something," one representative from American Express insurance told the FBI.

Court documents also show that Giordano had previously taken out an insurance policy on Gardner for a trip in June. The policy, obtained by ABC News, is dated April 27 and was signed by Gardner on May 12, officially designating Giordano as her beneficiary and listing him as her "domestic partner."

Gardner later canceled on Giordano and went to New York with her roommate, Christina Jones, instead. Jones has previously told ABCNews that Giordano sent Gardner aggressive, harmful texts for her decision to bail on the trip and go to New York.

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VIDEO
http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-denied-jail-release/story?id=14463749

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Is-Natalee-case-affecting-Gardner-investigation/npguxat-S0e-nn11wQhdGA.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Is-Natalee-case-affecting-Gardner-investigation/npguxat-S0e-nn11wQhdGA.cspx)

Is Natalee case affecting Gardner investigation?

Published: 12:48 pm
Updated: 1:31 pm
   
Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  How much is the six year old Natalee Holloway case affecting how investigators on Aruba are handling the Robyn Garnder mystery?

Natalee is the Mountain Brook teen who vanished on a 2005 graduation trip to Aruba.  She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad bar with three local teens, including Joran van der Sloot.  Van der Sloot was questioned repeatedly but never charged amid claims of lack of diligence by Aruban police and undue influence by his late father, a judge on the island.

By contrast, the main suspect in the disappearance in August of Robyn Gardner has been held by Aruban authorities while they chase down theories in that case...including suspicions he killed her for insurance money.

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http://nos.nl/artikel/270666-peter-r-de-vries-stopt-met-zijn-programma.html

Peter R. de Vries stop its program
Added: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 12:13
Updated: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 13:31

Crime reporter Peter R. de Vries ends in June next year with his TV program. He started the program in 1995 and was active as a presenter and editor.

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To be broadcast on Joran van der Sloot, De Vries, an international Emmy Award. De Vries had a friend of Van der Sloot that he got so far with a hidden camera in his car, shooting the two men could make, while the friend had told Van der Sloot about the disappearance of the American girl Natalee Holloway. The episode attracted a record 7.2 million viewers and was broadcast in the U.S..

Future
The crime reporter says he will stop because the program draws a huge change in his life. He himself wants "more air."

What does he do when his program finishes De Vries know yet. He first wants to close the season and now think. He continues to work and possibly on TV.

Aruba held Joran van der Sloot for two months (June 9/05 - August 3/05)  prior to releasing him without charges.  Aruba did go through the motions but when all was said and done it was a given that the son of a Dutch elite would not be prosecuted for his participation in the demise and disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Considering Gary Giordano is not the son of an Aruban/Dutch elite ... I do believe there is a chance that Aruban justice may prevail for Robyn Gardner.

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Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway
]
Page 189:   It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil.  It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are.  And evil is always two steps ahead. From the outset we never had a chance.  But we didn't know it.  I'm taking leave of the island, but not from the work yet to be done.


NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT
Loving Natalee
http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Natalee-case-reporter-retires/G474JR_Ir0meopYtsv8D-g.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Natalee-case-reporter-retires/G474JR_Ir0meopYtsv8D-g.cspx)

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Natalee case reporter retires

Published: 7:43 am

Updated: 8:03 am
   
Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The Dutch television reporter who secretly taped Joran van der Sloot confessing to dumping  Natalee Holloway's body in the ocean....a "confession" later denied and discounted...is retiring from his crime reporting television show.

Peter DeVries became a continuing thread in the six year old mystery of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway after her disappearance on a graduation trip to Aruba.

Although Natalee was last seen leaving an Oranjestad bar with van der Sloot, Aruban authorities never charged him in the case.

DeVries aired a show based on twenty hours of secret taping of van der Sloot by a friend.  In the program that aired on Dutch commercial station SBS6, van der Sloot told his friend how Natalee's body was dumped in the ocean after she went into convulsions on the beach.

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Thanks Klaas!    ::MonkeyKiss::

I hate to see him retire though....   :sad:

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/peter-stopt-in-2012-met-misdaadprogramma-na-zeventien-jaar-onthullen-en-ontmaskeren/

Google translation:

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I don't like to see him retire either, but I'm sure with all that's gone on and all the work he's done, it's taken it's toll.  Maybe he needs a change.  It will be interesting to see what he does next. 

I agree.   ::MonkeyCool::

I'm thankful that Natalee had him in her corner.  I hate to even think how comfortable Paulus and Joran (and many more I'm sure) would have been in the years following Natalee's disappearance if it hadn't been for Peter's perseverance.  So many people would have never had a look at the true side of the "sporter" possibly until he murdered again if it hadn't been for Peter. 

The Natalee Holloway disappearance case has become harder to solve because the main suspect's father has died. Crime reporter Peter R. de Vries told Radio Netherlands Worldwide,

"It's always sad if a relatively young person suddenly dies. It's also a painful loss for the investigation into the Holloway case. I am convinced that Mr Van der Sloot knew more than he had told us. He may have helped his son cover up parts of the truth."

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/death-suspects-father-complicates-natalee-holloway-case

in blue by me...no doubt imo

Thanks grace-land!   ::MonkeyCool::

ITA 

http://www.televizier.nl/artikel/8399/john-van-den-heuvel-wil-peter-r-de-vries-opvolgen

Google translation

John van den Heuvel wants Peter R. de Vries follow
John van den Heuvel sees itself as the successor of Peter. R. de Vries as the next year in June to stop his crime program.

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"I never close off some. It is also to SBS to a new program to crime. I would be very unfortunate if the departure of Peter would mean that no crime program longer made​​."

Yet he emphasizes that the departure of Peter has nothing to do with his new ambitions. "I've always said," I think it's great to make another crime program. "John presented some years ago at the Tros programs such as Office of the Hill and the remake of Crime Time. SBS 6 in three seasons, he gave the presentation of consumer applications Das your right.

difficult decision

He realizes that the workload of a program is high crime. "For that reason I am then also stopped. The problem of crime reporting on TV, is that people picture should make that absolutely do not want. They do everything to prevent it. That makes it tough. I am initially reporter for the Guardian and doing television there. when you really full-time program is a crime, it means I have to say goodbye to the newspaper and I find that a difficult decision. "

John van den Heuvel successor of Peter R. DeVries?    ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Seems like someone who truly desired to ever be considered a respected crime reporter, would have never allowed himself to be a tool for a murderer and the murderer's mother.  That's all I'll ever view John van den Heuvel as.

jmo

He's no investigative reporter!  He is a politically impaired reporter.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

=22670&calendartime=1315440000&cHash=c77ee175494ae338dbfb736a8f900a33]http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/index.php?id=630&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=22670&calendartime=1315440000&cHash=c77ee175494ae338dbfb736a8f900a33 (http://dewerelddraaitdoor.vara.nl/index.php?id=630&tx_ttnews[tt_news)

Google translation

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 :smt049

The link I posted with the show that Peter was on last night doesn't work.  This one came up when the video was over; it will take you there.  Peter's part doesn't really start until about 39 minutes into the show.  (There's one segment before his interview where a man in the audience reads something about Peter, after it I got the first screen shot of him with the big smile.  But I didn't note at what time on the video that was...sorry!)

http://omroep.vara.nl/media/71089

And he has surely been slimed by Anita! aacckkk!  ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/2897562/2011/09/08/John-van-den-Heuvel-woont-rechtszaak-Joran-niet-bij.dhtml

Google translation

Thursday, September 8, 2011

John van den Heuvel Joran not live trial
John van den Heuvel decided the planned lawsuit with Joran van der Sloot not to attend. The first public hearing in the criminal case takes place in Lima Monday.

It is a pre-trial, in which the course of the process is determined.

"I'm not twice twelve hours in an airplane for a director to attend", says Van den Heuvel in RTL Boulevard. According to the crime reporter, it is not certain that Joran van der Sloot will be there.

Van der Sloot regularly call the journalist from prison in Peru. According to correspondent Dan Collyns it is a notorious case, involving not only Peru but also the rest of the world's troubles follow.

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Dutch Crime Reporter Peter DeVries Who Covered Natalee Holloway Case and Pursued Joran Van Der Sloot Retires

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/09/08/dutch-crime-reporter-peter-devries-who-covered-natalee-holloway-case-and-pursued-joran-van-der-sloot-retires/

Peter DeVries retires …

Peter DeVries, the Dutch crime reporter, who covered the disappearance of Natalle Holloway and hounded prime suspect Joran Van der Sloot has retired. DeVries did yeoman work  investigating the death and disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba. DeVries was also Joran Van der Sloot’s worst nightmare, other than Beth Holloway, as the Dutch crime reporter hunted the “little Dutch boy” throughout Europe and Thailand. How unfortunate, DeVries told the Dutch newspaper AD that he is simply tired of chasing crime stories.

Thank you Peter for all that you have done. Don’t forget Dana’s interview with Peter R. DeVries who was nice enough to take the time to sit down with Scared Monkeys Radio and that nice difference in time. The Dana Pretzer interview with Peter can be heard HERE. (go back in the Time Machine and hear Dana and Peter DeVries)

Thanks Red!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyKiss::

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/

Monkeys Media Reminder ... Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio [75:13m]:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/podpress_trac/web/466/0/021308.mp3

Transcript:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6341.0

Thanks, texasmom, for the links and the articles with pictures of Peter DeVries!    :smt038

YW grace-land!   ::MonkeyCool::

ARUBA COPS: SUSPECT SECRET CONFESSION?

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-cops-suspect-giordano-secret-confession-gardner

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The family of murder victim Stephany Flores has another tough decision to make.
Published: 7:28 am
Updated: 7:46 am

The Flores family wants  prosecutors to seek a longer sentence against confessed killer Joran van der Sloot.  He's currently looking at a thirty year sentence if convicted of killing the 21 year old student.

They also want an end to the legal process that began when their daughter was found dead in van der Sloot's Lima, Peru hotel room in May 2010. 

The family's lawyer tells The Associated Press that Stephany Flores' family won't object to the proposed sentence because it doesn't want the trial delayed.  Lawyer Edward Alvarez says that if the Flores family were to raise objections Monday the trial could be delayed until next year.

Van der Sloot is to appear Monday before a judge who could set the trial to begin as early as October.

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http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-victims-family-caught-in-time/6KmHA5Yr8EKHrL8gAjZPkA.cspx

Beth Holloway inspires at benefit dinner
Published: 9:19 am
Updated: 9:23 am

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Holloway now hosts a Lifetime TV series called Vanquished and brings her message of personal safety and travel safety to groups throughout the country. Thursday she was in Statesboro where she was the key note speaker at the Boys and Girls Club's Steak and Burger Dinner.

Beth Holloway, Author, host of TV series Vanquished, shares, "I just try and stay focused on the work that needs to be done and the lives that need to be reached. I feel as though I've done that with Vanished and I just try and focus my energy on the families and I understand the needs that they have."  

Holloway encourages more people to volunteer for organizations like the Boys and Girls Club that make such a positive impact on children. According to Holloway, "It's a safe haven for them it's where the children learn things about the world around them and are empowered."

Holloway's story is tough to hear but as Boys and Girls Club Director Mike Jones points out it is also about perseverance. "What I hope that the audience and especially our kids got out of this is her story of hope. Hope that they can aspire to be somebody, and grow up to be very productive citizens.”

The Bulloch County Boys and Girls Clubs Steak and Burger Dinner is the club’s biggest annual fundraising event.

VIDEO:
http://www.thecoastalsource.com/news/local/story/Beth-Holloway-inspires-at-benefit-dinner/ncyhy99eJ0uIHIOmEfTGKw.cspx?rss=1669

Mother of Natalee Holloway speaks in GA
Posted: Sep 09, 2011 7:21 AM PDT
Updated: Sep 09, 2011 7:22 AM PDT

STATESBORO, GA (WTOC) The crowd Thursday listened as Beth Holloway recounted details of her last phone call with her daughter, Natalee Holloway, as Natalee packed for spring break in Aruba.

The 18 year old disappeared on that 2005 trip and her presumed death has fueled international media attention ever since.

While Holloway would not discuss details of the case nor prime suspect Jordan Van Der Sloot, she spoke Sept. 8 about what she's tried to do since.

"It was in June 2005 that I made the commitment early on to the authorities and officials handling Natalee's case that I would do everything I could in order to share the hard lessons we had learned to help others hopefully avoid experiencing the nightmare that we did," said Holloway.

In addition to writing a book, she's now the host of a cable television show about unsolved disappearance cases.

"I just try to focus on the work that need to be done and the lives that need to be reached." Said Holloway.

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http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/15426276/mother-of

My Pledge

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 200:  My child.  My beautiful daughter.  I can't save her.  It's too late.  Natalee is gone. And second to the great tragedy of losing her is if we fail to learn from what has happened.

I could be any parent in the world.  And no parent should ever go through this experience.  Natalee could be anyone's daughter.  And in these thoughts a new path is made clear.  There is something I can do.  Many people reached out to us, and I can now reach back to them.  It might be too late to save Natalee, but it's not too late to save others.  And it's time now to make good on my pledge to stand before high-school and college students, law enforcement professionals, victims' rights groups, travelers of all ages, and anyone interested in personal safety to share Natalee's story and our hard lessons, so that others might learn from them.


National Museum of Crime & Punishment
Loving Natalee
http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx

Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
 
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx

Vanished With Beth Holloway

About Vanished With Beth Holloway

Lifetime’s gripping true-life series “Vanished With Beth Holloway” examines some of America’s most disturbing unsolved cases, as told to Holloway by the families who’ve been victimized by mysterious abductions or disappearances of loved ones and unspeakable crimes. Now left with little hope, these families turn to Holloway, who continues to live a mother’s worst nightmare as she carries on her tireless quest to solve the mystery surrounding her daughter Natalee’s tragic 2005 disappearance. A passionate advocate for these families, Beth offers her unique insight into each case, dedicating her intensely personal point of view and empathy to family and loved ones seeking answers. Each episode will profile real-life mysteries, giving detailed accounts of the events described by those closest to the victims as Beth Holloway goes on location to conduct key interviews, introduce important facts and give the audience a clear understanding of pivotal moments in each harrowing case.

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http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/vanished-with-beth-holloway/about

THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE KALPOES

Beth Holloway

Nancy Grace - August 26, 2006

<SNIPPED>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: We`ve known from day one...

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are way deeply involved in this.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/26/ng.01.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 12/2/2005 10:37:47 AM ET

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TWITTY:  Oh, you know, Rita, not only hearing that, but I actually saw it come across someone's Blackberry, a reporter, where Deepak was saying that he wanted $250,000 in a book or a movie deal.  You know, and I had to see it, like I said, come across a reporter's Blackberry.  Deepak's been reaching out to various reporters in the United States since early on.

COSBY:  Trying to make money off, unfortunately, your misfortune, which is disgusting.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/


Dave Holloway

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Nov. 30th
updated 9:10 a.m. PT, Thurs., Dec. 1, 2005

<snipped>

COSBY: Do you believe he‘s saying that they did have sex with her? Is that what you believe?

HOLLOWAY: Oh, yes. Absolutely. You can‘t have a negative and then turn around and then support it with a positive. I mean, they‘ve got to put the whole sentence together for it to make sense. If they said, No, we didn‘t, and then turn around and said, You wouldn‘t believe how simple it was, that just—that just doesn‘t make sense.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10281941/


Deepak Kalpoe

Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 13, 2005

To your question as to who John Charles CROES is, where he lives and how often I have chatted to him on "MSN", I can say the following. The afore mentioned John lives with his whole family in Miami. I have known him since school. We were together at the MAVO. On Monday Mai 30th 2005 I had chatted with John from about 02:40 to 03:30 hours. We didn't chat continually. From time to time I went and watched some TV. But I am sure that he was online during the time-frame I just mentioned above here.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=182.0


Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - June 29, 2005

You are telling me that John Charles CROES has stated that I wrote while I was chatting with him that I had written that the girl had put her hands in/down my pants, I can say the following. I did this to frustrate/mess up the investigation.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=192.0


Joran van der Sloot

The Road Ranger "Confession"

Transcript:
 
JORAN:  Ok they (Deepak and Satish) have just dropped me off. They don't know anything further.

PATRICK:  So you never told these two (Deepak and Satish) anything?
 
JORAN:  Never, never, never.


Peter Devries

Newsweek - February 8, 2008

Do you believe that the Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, were involved in any way?

PETER DEVIRES:  No, not at all.  On the tapes Joran calls them stupid.  I don't believe they were involved.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/109260/page/3


The Complete Story
How a sensational hidden camera operation
solved the Natalee Holloway case

Peter Devries:

Jorans friends Deepak and Satish, who have been arrested for this case several times, are completely innocent.

http://www.peterrdevries.com/complete-story.htm

s.t.

Bump   ::MonkeyCool::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6341.0

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/podpress_trac/web/466/0/021308.mp3


From the transcript:

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Now I talked to the ultimate crime reporter the other day and I want to share a cute story with you.  There’s no more dedicated group of individuals than those at the Scared Monkeys forum and blog.  24/7, a hundred percent, all the time they’re dedicated ...Red, Dugga, Klaas, you name it all of them, San, I could go on and on.  I’ve never considered myself to be as dedicated as them but I’ve got to tell you a cute story.   I’d been wanting to interview Peter R. DeVries for some time and finally when we were able to come to an agreement as far as being able to set up an interview, I knew that Peter had been in New York and Los Angeles doing some high profile media interviews with the main stream media.  And when I got a message back from him saying yeah no problem, I’ll give you a call; I assumed that Peter R. DeVries was still in America.  Well the other night...I’m a night owl I probably shut it down around 1:30, 2:00 get to bed, 3:30 in the morning the phones ringing.  I look at the phone, my first instinct was oh I’m getting called into work I’ll just give my head a shake and wake up.  I didn’t realize that Peter R. DeVries was back in Holland.  It certainly wasn’t 3:30 in the morning in Holland when he called me however I splashed a little water on my face and the true dedicated monkey I am I climbed out of the monkeybunkey and we did this interview.  So if it sounds like I’m a little bit sleepy, it’s because I am.

Dana: o.k.  I’m back.  This is the Dana Pretzer show.  I’m very pleased to have Peter R. DeVries, Dutch Crime Reporter with me this evening to talk about the Natalee Holloway investigation and most recently the sting operation where he and his team were able to capture Mr. Joran Vandersloot and get a confession from him, something that the Aruban police were not able to do after two and a half years.   Peter R. DeVries welcome to the program how are you sir?

Peter R. DeVries:   I’m fine thank you. How are you?

Dana:   I’m very good.  Two and a half years later I’ve covered this program on my program many times, the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.  Talking to her mother, her father, her step father, you name it everyone involved.  One thing that no one expected was to see this come out.  I have to congratulate you and your team sir for a job well done.  But being a crime reporter for as long as you’ve been did you expect that you would have to go to this extent and the police weren’t able to?

Peter:  Well you never know of course I did an investigation on Aruba eighteen months ago and when I was there and saw everything.  It just, it all happened in 500 square meters, considering the lies that Joran Vandersloot already told.  I was thinking this case can be, and must be solved; and that’s why I continued.   

Dana:  The experience that you’ve had over thirty years.  Have you ever been involved with a person like Joran Vandersloot?  The type of personality that he is, the type of...some would say narcissistic or sociopathic traits that he shows.  Have you ever had any case like this before or is this the first time?

Peter:  Oh yeah, I’ve seen many people like him.  In all the cases I’ve been investigating.  In 30 years I’ve investigating for almost 500 murders and disappearances.  Well, I’ve seen this kind of people many times.  They have no regrets, they speak with disrespect about the victim, no remorse at all, and they only feel pity for themselves.  I’ve seen that many times. 

Dana:  That’s very well said because when we watch the interview you see the response that Vandersloot gives.  It must have been so difficult for the family in particular Beth Holloway, Dave Holloway, Jug Twitty to see this.  What sort of a reaction did you get from Beth at the time?  Of course we saw what we saw on the television program but we didn’t see all of the behind the scenes information.  How did Beth react?

Peter:  Beth reacted very emotional and well you can imagine she was outraged about it because the lack of respect, how he was calling her the bitch and the whore all the time and well that’s the most awful thing that can happen for a mother who lost her child. 

Dana:  Dutch Crime Reporter, Peter R. DeVries joins us this evening.  Peter, the case itself...  We’re hearing in the news here that the authorities have delayed the decision as far as re arresting Vandersloot.  This case has bounced around so many different times, and so many arrests and re arrests and we don’t really know what’s going to happen.  The confidence I guess in the Aruban authorities is well at one time at an all time low.  Is it possible for you to comment on where you think this case will go next or maybe you just don’t know?

Peter:  Well I’m quite sure that Joran Vandersloot will stand trial sooner or later.  I’m pretty sure about that. 

Dana:  Now with as you know being involved in crime reporting for so long, and my audience, and myself; not only as a talk show host but also as a law enforcement officer we know that confessions aren’t always word for word the truth and we hear this term or this name Daury come up.  As far as who this person is and what they’ve been a lot of speculation.  What can you tell us?  And a lot of people are saying that Daury is actually Paulus Vandersloot.

Peter:  Well, I don’t know that but what I can say is that I have the impression that Joran Vandersloot is protecting somebody else by mentioning the name of Daury.  During the first drive he told Patrick, our infiltrant...  I never going to mention the name of the guy who helped me, I will take that into my grave.  And the next day when we instructed the infiltrant to push a little bit on that name he was asking why don’t you tell me... you can trust me and etc.; then he mentioned the name Daury.  But at that moment already we had the impression that he was protecting somebody else and just mentioned a name.  So who the helper really is, well that’s speculating.

Dana:  Exactly, and the Aruban law enforcement and law enforcement investigators are working on that.  Let’s talk about you a little bit here.  Again, your experience... as long as you’ve been involved in a case like this.  The international news media have been all over this case for such a long time both looking at it so many different ways, the case has been spun so many ways.  I know that you’ve probably been very busy in the media.  How do you think that the international media have done covering the disappearance of Natalee Holloway?

Peter:  Well of course there was a lot of media attention over this disappearance but it was only attention.  Just a few people did really investigative journalism.

Dana:  Exactly

Peter:  (At this point) Most of the media is not doing really investigation but is only thinking things over if you know what I mean.  They don’t investigate by their selves but they’re just (?) at the beach and not really knowing anything.

Dana:  What is next for you and your team, I’m sure you’re quite busy.

Peter:  Well we continue our investigation.  At this moment we consider the case as solved in the way that Joran did confession on tape not once, not twice, but more than ten times on several days and together with the evidence which was already lying there I think you can say the case is solved but now it’s up to the Justice system to get him into jail.

Dana:  Absolutely.  Well Peter, I want to thank you of course on behalf of myself and my audience for doing something that law enforcement were not able to do to bring some answers to the family that long deserved them.  Of course we all hope that Natalee will be recovered, found and taken home where she belongs and those responsible will be brought to justice.  Again I want to thank you and congratulate you on a job well done.

Peter: o.k. thank you very much, you’re welcome.

Dana:  Thank you sir, take care.

Peter:  o.k. bye

Dana:  That’s Dutch Crime Reporter, Peter R. DeVries.  This is Scared Monkeys Radio, we’ll be right back.

Announcer:  You’re listening to Scared Monkeys Radio.  Once again your host, Dana Pretzer.

Dana:  Welcome back.  Many of us define justice as what happens in court.  Someone is arrested, someone is taken to court and they’re sentenced.  After that we may complain about the sentence and say maybe the judge was too hard or the judge was too lenient.  But there are other ways that justice can be served.  Some will say vigilante justice, we don’t approve of that here, we don’t appreciate it and we consider that to be illegal.  Sometimes justice can be knowing the answer to what really happened.  Someone I think who knows the answer to as far as what really happened to her daughter Natalee is Beth Holloway and I welcome her back to the program.  Hi Beth.

Beth Holloway:  Hi, how are you?

Dana:  I’m doing great, I’m doing great.  Listen before we get started with the interview many news reports have said that Aruban authorities would be announcing today if there was going to be a re arrest of Joran Vandersloot.  Have you heard anything?

Beth:  No I have not heard anything as of yet.

Dana:  Yeah I’ve been checking my sources and contacts and I haven’t heard anything either but hopefully we’ll have some good news.  Alright let’s set that aside.  I’m going to be speaking to Peter R. DeVries this evening.  Peter R. DeVries must hold a special place in your heart, tell us about that.

Beth:  Oh absolutely, well I think that we all would have to hail Peter DeVries as “the king” and I’m sure he does not like to be referred to that at all.

Dana:  No

Beth:  But I just can’t help it he’s just... I’ll say he was just heroic in that he stepped forward in order to bring light onto what happened and to all the circumstances surrounding Natalee’s disappearance.  And I feel that I cannot say thank you to Peter DeVries without also Patrick. 

Dana:  Yes

Beth:  You know this young man that...who’s just a father and wanted to see the right thing done, who stepped forward to also partner with Peter DeVries and make this all possible; so absolutely heroic for both of them.

Dana:  Peter and his team have done a stand up job.  Better than law enforcement have ever done.  Hopefully this will result in some court appearances and some convictions.  Time will tell but you know Beth I’ve interviewed you several times on the program and we’ve talked about answers.  Answers are something that you’ve been looking for, obviously you’re also looking for your daughter and we all hope and pray that you’ll be able to bring her home soon but did you receive the answers that you were looking for by watching that undercover tape?

Beth:  Well absolutely I did and I think I even have to back it up to what you said when you were opening your show.  Justice does come in many forms as I’ve learned and yes justice came for me as an answer and I did receive the answer and second I think I did receive justice just in the validation of the fight.  And meaning that you know every step that we took was well worth it.  And you know of course the third form of justice that I would like to see that we all would like to see is Joran Vandersloot behind bars. 

Dana:  Yes

Beth:  I feel so strongly that he is a time bomb and he’s waiting to go off and he will strike again and so it’s not just for Natalee that I would like to see him behind bars because I think that he could certainly strike again and I think he will strike again I think he was only building in his behaviors and recklessness and I think he’s shown us all he has no control over himself or his actions.

Dana:  Country’s, islands, cities, towns whatever their leaders take a vow that they will protect their citizenry.  They protect their citizenry, they protect their visitors, Aruba obviously failed in the situation.  Crime does happen we all understand that but it’s the goal and the responsibility of organizations, countries, law enforcement, you name it to conduct a proper investigation.  Now that this has gone to this extreme, I know that you have been somewhat reluctant in the past to talk about it because you were concentrating on finding your daughter and we all understand that.  But when I’ve interviewed Jug and Dave and others and we’ve talked about situations where the strange questions that you were asked when you first arrived on the island.  Jug and I spoke about that here back in December and now it’s become pretty obvious that there has to be more to this story than what we’re hearing.  Some would say that there’s corruption and cover up from the beginning.  I know that’s not going to help bring Joran Vandersloot to justice and put him behind bars and maybe it’s something that may need to be dealt with later but I’m curious Beth on your take on now compared to three, four months ago.

Beth:  Well you’re exactly right there are two different tracks.  And one is to stay focused on Joran and his admissions and what the investigators and prosecution can now do with him.  But I think the second thing to be faced eventually is we need to get to the bottom of exactly what was transpiring in the first 48 hours of Natalee’s disappearance.  You know to set aside Joran we have to look at you know we had some stunning revelations that were being admitted from Joran as he was describing them, it couldn’t help but take us back to the very beginning.  The first 48 hours after her disappearance where a lead detective asked us only one medical question.  And it was does Natalee have a history of epilepsy or seizures, and the answer of course was no.  And we didn’t know why that question kept resurfacing during the months of Natalee’s disappearance but I think that our stunning revelation was when Joran admitted that to Patrick, it’s very suspicious.  And it’s certainly a red flag that needs to be delved into.  There is a reason why this was asked of us and we need to get to the bottom of why.  So there are two different tracks but the one I really want to stay focused on right now is Joran and his admissions and as far as delving into what happened in the first 48 hours, that’s just going to be a whole separate ballgame.

Dana:  I agree with you completely, it’s something that we’ll stay focused on for sure.  The old saying Beth and without trying to be callous here, parents aren’t supposed to bury their children, children are supposed to bury their parents.  When you see a video like you saw and I use these terms callous, cold, arrogant, and some that I can’t say on the radio.  It must have made your skin crawl to watch this individual bragging, degrading your daughter the way that he did.  It was just absolutely sickening.

Beth:  Well you’re right parents aren’t supposed to bury their children and what is so, what is just so sickening to me is Joran has decided to bury everyone.  Natalee, his parents, his entire...I should not say his parents...but his mother.  You know I’ve felt from day one that his father has been involved but due to his actions Joran has buried his father deep into this with him.  I do feel that his father played a major role in Natalee’s disappearance.  But I think about his family.  I think about all the people that stepped forward to try to help.  I mean he’s just stepped on...he would step on anyone’s back to try to protect himself so I think he’s just blatantly showing us that he has an utter disregard for anyone’s human existence but his own so he would stop at nothing to bury anyone.

Dana:  I’m going to throw out some names to you and I know you’ve done this line of questioning before from other show hosts but I’m curious to see what you have to say.  When I mention the name Jossy Mansur...

Beth:  Oh absolutely heroic, what a man, what a father, what a husband he is too... I mean my goodness.  What a business man he is...integrity.  And you know I will stand by Jossy because this is an individual that stepped forward for me, for human rights, and for justice.  And gosh what he did for me was he took such a burden off of me during the month of July of 05 when I felt as if I was kind of out there on the forefront by myself going against these perpetrators until Jossy Mansur stepped forward I felt like I had no other ally.  So you know he did the most amazing thing, and he went out on a limb and he you know for no reason other than doing the right thing and as I said being about professionalism, integrity, and respect for others human rights so absolutely what an amazing man. 

Dana:  If I was to mention the name Van der Straten.

Beth:  Well he’s corrupt to his core of existence.

Dana:  I think that just absolutely nails it.  I was just sitting here just doodling with a pen and pad of paper just to see what you might write and we wrote just exactly the same thing. 

Beth:  He just doesn’t even deserve any more words.

Dana: Absolutely, I figured you would just use the word corrupt.  You know when you look at the media coverage of the story and you see that 99.999 percent of those that watch listen and read about this story care and want to see the answers, want to see your family get the justice that you all deserve.  Your take on how the media have handled all of this Beth.

Beth:  Well I think it’s been remarkable.  And I have gosh as I said you know my only allies in Aruba were the media and Jossy Mansur.  So I think they rank very high.  I mean and what a remarkable resource for parents or families to be able to mobilize when they’re faced with a crisis whether it’s a missing or murdered loved one they can be very powerful and they were just a great ally to me on the island of Aruba so I’m very grateful for them.  They were always very respectful too.

Dana:  Your book “Loving Natalee”, a wonderful book.  If this finally gets closed, this case gets closed and you were to write an epilogue in the book what would the last two lines of that epilogue be? 

Beth:  First I don’t know if I would ever do that.  And secondly I guess that Hope does not disappoint, and I think that is what I would just end it with is Hope does not disappoint.  It’s easy to give in to the pain and to let go of hope but I’ve learned through this journey that every step you take

Dana: To the protecting or talking to parents about preparing and protecting your loved ones when they go out on trips like this and how to be prepared because most people yourself included would never expect something like this to happen.  A couple of words of wisdom for Mr. and Mrs. Smith whose young daughter is about to take a trip to the Bahamas on a school vacation, what would you say to them?

Beth:  If I had to do a couple of words it would have to be communication and education, and I think those are key.  I think communication; I think that my book for one can be a starting ground.  It can be a centerpiece to you know, have those conversations with their young adults about many things they may not have talked about; everything from faith to personal safety.  I think then education of course would be my second biggest talking point and that would be logging on to the website just really choosing that format that venue to discuss how you want to go about you know ensuring your own personal safety.  Everything from International calling to medical things you must take care of before you depart our borders.  So I think it’s like I said two words communication could start with the book and education could start with the foundation so I think that would be the two key areas that I think parents begin to delve into.  I know they’re pretty broad, (?) a lot, but I think the book and the foundation can splinter off into many different areas of concerns that a family might have when they have a young one departing our borders. 

Dana:  Absolutely.  Beth I know on behalf of myself and all of the rest of the Scared Monkeys we support you a thousand percent, our fingers are crossed that the answers that you so rightly deserve and your family so rightly deserve will come to you and I appreciate you joining us.

Beth:  o.k.  Thank you so much.

Dana:  take care Beth

Beth:  It’s been incredible.  O.k. thank you bye

Dana: bye
That’s Beth Holloway and you know what more can you say than what’s already been said.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyCool::

http://media.morristechnology.com/mediafilesvr/flv/flipbook/Moments/september2011/index.html

The Faith & Hope of Beth Holloway

Moments Magazine had the privilege of interviewing Beth Holloway prior to her Statesboro speaking engagement on September 8.

You wouldn’t expect a mother who lost her daughter and spent the past six years fighting for justice and change to now be spreading a message of faith and hope.  But that is exactly what you get with Beth Holloway.

The path to acceptance and peace was not a fast or easy path for her.

“I had a roller coaster of emotions early on,” she said.  “I would begin to lose hope and I would become angry and my emotions would run the gamut in one day.”

Beth Holloway lived a somewhat quiet life as a speech pathologist for children with special needs until 2005.  Her life changed drastically when her daughter Natalee disappeared on the last night of her senior high graduation trip to Aruba.  Her tragic story gripped headlines around the world.  Upon learning the news of her daughter’s disappearance, Beth left for Aruba to search for her.

She describes the first four months in Aruba as the toughest of her life.

“You almost have to disconnect yourself as a mother,” she said.  “You have to go to work for your missing loved one.  It is unimaginable for a parent to make that separation.  I was not able at that time to grieve.  I was spearheading the search and investigation.”

This process caused Beth to build many walls and boundaries.  It was five years before she could let go of all the bitterness and the hate.

Those times were the toughest of her life.  How did she get through it?

“The best way I know to put it, to take those steps forward, was my faith in God,” she said.
“I understand that hope becomes real when there is action behind it.  As sure as the tide would roll in, hope would always come.  It would come through a meeting with investigators or following tips and leads.”

She always put action behind it.  Because of her actions in creating the Natalee Holloway Resource Center & stirring up Aruban officials, the search for Robyn Gardner, an American woman who disappeared in Aruba in August, has been more thorough.

“I certainly learned some hard lessons and I hope Aruba learned some hard lessons, too!”

The resource center named for her daughter continues to help many families search for missing loved ones.

Helping others is something Beth has dedicated her life to as so many people joined in to search for Natalee.

“This is another important lesson I have learned.  Faith knows no boundaries.  It doesn’t matter your religious preference when it comes to reaching out to people in need.  People in all walks of life reached out to me and that is what sustained me.  It helped me to continue to take those steps forward and saved my life.”

Beth Holloway has found peace in her life and now travels to share her message with others.  She speaks on faith, hope, personal and travel safety.  She believes “hope is that inexplicable empowerment that enables us to move successfully from challenge to resolution with courage.  It’s that guarantee that there is light at the end of whatever tunnel we are trying to find our way through.  This transcends to whatever nightmare or whatever ordeal we are encountering.”

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“The struggle of life is one of our greatest blessings,
It makes us patient,
sensitive, and Godlike.
It teaches us that
although the world is
full of suffering, it is
also full of the
overcoming of it.”

~Helen Keller

http://www.nu.nl/media/2609997/peter-r-vries-mentaal-buiten-adem.html

Google translation:

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http://nos.nl/artikel/270804-om-besluit-peter-r-de-vries-jammer.html

Google translation:

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The download wouldn't work earlier, so I typed out the article...but I was finally able to download it and these are the cover and the page dedicated to Beth's interview.

http://media.morristechnology.com/mediafilesvr/flv/flipbook/Moments/september2011/index.html

Front Cover, and Page 25

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http://www.awe24.com/20110906/8400/4_hoben_a_maltrata_turista_Americano_na_Club_nocturno_riba_LG_Smith_Boulevard

Papiamentu translation:

4 young owing to maltrata tourist americano at club nocturno (night club) on l.g. smith boulevard

2 day happen come across, 6 of september 2011 23:05

tuesday night owing to enter informe of cu have a injury at one club nocturno on boulevard, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu 4 young owing to maltrata the tourist americano. after of owing to maltrata the tourist they owing to bandona the sitio. at arrival of ambulance they owing to atende the victima y owing to transporte for hospital.

http://www.awe24.com/20110906/8399/Hues_comisario_a_prolonga_detencion_di_cuidador_di_preso_JR_pa_purba_pasa

Papiamentu translation:

judge comisario owing to prolonga detencion of cuidador of preso j.r. for try happen blackberry at kia

3 day happen come across, 6 of september 2011 11:43

tuesday morning owing to aparece fast of judge comisario the cuidador of preso j.r. that owing to being captura at momneto cu the wanted owing to happen cu 2 blackberry in his bread at kia.

http://www.awe24.com/20110905/8393/Huma_preto_na_dump_ta_causa_hopi_dano_na_nos_medio-ambiente_y_turismo

Papiamentu translation:

smoke black at dump is cause much damage at we medio-ambiente y turism

4 day happen come across, 5 of september 2011 16:48

monday again can owing to see smoke black thick is leave for of dump, the molester here is birando more y more algo insoportable for her comunidad. owing to become time for cuminsa aplica multanan for esnan responsable of the actonan here.

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http://www.24ora.com/politica-mainmenu-18/36608-tres-caso-fatal-den-ocho-luna-pa-motibo-di-dengue.html

Papiamentu translation:

three caso fateful in eight month for motibo of dengue

friday, 09 september 2011 13:28

gobierno owing to calling one conferencia of prensa. this is for talk on the first informacion encuanto dengue. more cu never we have to is vigilante cu coperacion of all cas y all barrio encuanto criadero of dengue.

will have one struggle more strong. have one level basico more high for atende cune encuanto combatimento of dengue. monday now is cuminsa spuit in all district. minister richard visser during the conferencia owing to splica one bit on the season what is go sosode cu sosten of one y all. in eight month owing to conoce 3 caso fateful. 60 % of we people owing to wordo afecta end cu dengue during ultimo anjanan. owing to show minister richard visser cu much trip the dokternan of cas do not give the informacion desea at the departamento of salubridad publico for have one mihor view on the situation of dengue. the mandatario owing to splica cu have caminda cu have to cuminsa one training cu the dokternan.

cada doctor was have one method of atende cu the problem of dengue. anja happen was first trip cu owing to atende cu the dokternan on the problem. the season here will become esun more pisa cu owing to arrive of conoce the minister owing to tell finalmente.

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Food for Thought

MARCH 25, 2009

The Beth Holloway Interview
Created 03/25/2009

<snipped>

What do you really think happened to Natalee?

We have tried to be so careful not to speculate over the last four years. We always go back to the known facts, and the known facts are that we have indentified the three individuals who were last seen with Natalee alive. As she was leaving Carlos and Charlie’s, we know the condition that Natalee was in. And when the suspects took her from the establishment, we have 22 different versions that they have given to the police to explain what they did with her that night. We know the sexual conduct they engaged in with her in the car as she was semiconscious, falling asleep and waking up. So we know it doesn’t look good, the things that were transpiring. Other than this, we have no further information.

<snipped>

http://www.mylifetime.com/movies/natalee-holloway/the-beth-holloway-interview

Hope and Faith

Pages 230/231:  I can't say for sure if we'll ever know that answer to whether my daughter is alive or not.  I know it doesn't look good.  But just as that old metal spiral staircase rose from the ashes when our lake house burned down, so too faith stands strong in the remains of this devastating loss.  And just as my Dad built another house around that staircase, I will build another life around hope and faith.  It won't ever be the same.  But I pray that it will, at the very least, be useful.  The hope that filled Natalee's heart fills mine, and I will press on.  Faith got me up this morning, and faith will see me through tomorrow.  And the next day.  And the next.


National Museum of Crime & Punishment
Loving Natalee
http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx

Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
 
Mayday 360
http://www.mayday360.com/default.aspx

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/15426276/mother-of

Mother of Natalee Holloway speaks in GA

Click on the picture for a portion of the newscast about Beth's appearance

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http://www.blikopnieuws.nl/bericht/134105/Defensiemedewerker_verdacht_van_drugssmokkel_op_Cura%C3%A7ao.html

Google translation:

Defense Employee suspected of drug smuggling in Curacao

Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:32 p.m.

The Royal Military Police in Curacao has a 31-year-old Dutchman arrested on suspicion of drug smuggling. This made it Wednesday.

Photo: archive: Miranda van der Sloot

The Dutchman is suspected of smuggling cocaine through envelopes, which were posted from Curacao to the Netherlands. The suspect works as a civilian employee at the naval base Parera. The case came to light in mid-July when staff from the Royal Navy in the postal service suspicious envelopes that have been identified for shipment to the Netherlands were presented. After examining the military police, there was cocaine in the envelope to sit. The military police held the suspect at his workplace today. During a joint effort with the Police Force and the Criminal Investigation Team were at various locations in Curacao Curacao searches performed. The research will be conducted by State Police on the island.

I can not wait for the day when Joran is extradited to Alabama.  He will be on Beth's turf.

I can not wait.

In thirty years ... an almost 95 year old Monkey named Tamikosmom will be rejoicing as Joran as Joran van der Sloot is extradited to the States to face extortion and wire fraud charges.

 ::justice2NJ::

I won't hold my breath  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me neither Nut but ... I can hope that maybe in time Joran van der Sloot will be held accountable for his wrongdoing in the Natalee Holloway case ... the Stephany Flores case and ... the extortion and wire fraud case.

Janet

The teacher/dj Vick Geerman could get four years in jail (and five years prohibition from teaching) for the sexual abuse of his students...sentencing Sept 22

If he's convicted, he should never be allowed to teach again, imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/36637-fiscal-a-exigi-4-ana-di-prizon-pa-docente-abusado-sexual-y-abogado-a-pidi-libertad-pa-su-cliente.html

Papiamentu translation:

fiscal owing to exigi 4 year of jail for docente abusado sexual y advocate owing to ask freedom for his cliente

saturday, 10 september 2011 11:16

the docente vito geerman of scol basico y conoci at radio because; "dj vic" owing to hear in corte cu ministerio publico is exigi 4 year of jail pe y prohibicion for 5 year largo the not eherce his profesion of perfect of scol. huez will dicta one sentencia day 22 of september proximo. the docente/acusado is close acusa of owing to as relacion sexual cu 4 of his alumnonan of class. owing to talk of sunchimento cu language y till even penetracion close one of the alumnonan. owing to arrive of let the children in gymzaal y go cu one sun alumno for comete his actonan in cierto localidad of the scol. his advocate mr edwin duineveld owing to splica cu have much declaracion cu do not cuadra contra his cliente vic geerman. also the advocate is achieve cu owing to place presion via the fundacion lisette gomez for haci publicidad. the same fundacion is defende asuntonan of abuse sexual contra younger. according the advocate in corte, the fundacion lisette gomez owing to send parents entrega complaint y also go corant atacha the name of his cliente vic geerman by of place cierto publicacion. pesey self for miss of pruebanan palpable the advocate is ask huez for let vic geerman in freedom y pound of all acusacion cu have contra dje actualmente. vic geerman self owing to stay deteni first trip y in one week owing to being let in freedom. hour cu owing to enter more complaint past owing to stay deteni once more y is close till cu today. vic geerman was give lesson at one scol at madiki y was cabezante interino at the scol. was one alumno cu owing to confia his docente y so the caso owing to cuminsa lora. influencia of prensa owing to cuminsa play one rol important for so the casonan here wordo atendi cu more seriedad. the acusado was one figure much conoci in farandula because the was dj also. the self is casa y have child but cu the caso earnest here practicamente owing to throw all his future afor.


Earlier posts about this case

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9013.msg1276296#msg1276296

A Time Bomb

Monkeys Media Reminder … Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio
February 13th, 2008

Beth Holloway:

47:50 - I feel strongly that he (Joran) is a time bomb that is waiting to go off.  He will strike again.  It is not just for Natalee that I would like to see him behind bars.  I think he has shown us all he has no control over himself or his actions.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/

In English:

http://arubaherald.com/court/1051-prosecutor-demands-4-years-for-teacher-who-sexually-abused-students.html (http://arubaherald.com/court/1051-prosecutor-demands-4-years-for-teacher-who-sexually-abused-students.html)

Prosecutor demands 4 years for teacher who sexually abused students    PDF    Print    E-mail
Saturday, 10 September 2011 16:19
vickgeerman
The prosecutor in the sexual abuse and harassment case against Vito Geerman, the elementary school teacher popularly known as radio's "DJ Vic", is demanding four years imprisonment and five years suspension from his job. The Judge will announce his decision on September 22. The teacher is detained, accused of having sexual intercourse with 4 students.

Among the complaints were tongue kissing and penetration. It has happened that Geerman has left the children in the gym and leave with one student to commit the acts in another space at the school. The defense attorney, Edwin Duijneveld explained that there are many declarations that are contradictory to what his client has said happened. He added that Fundacion Lisette Gomez, a local foundation against child abuse, encouraged publicity for the case. He said in court that the foundation advised the parents to submit a complaint and to go to newspapers to damage Vic Geerman's reputation by bringing the situation into publicity.
 ::snipping2::

A Major Role

Monkeys Media Reminder … Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio
February 13th, 2008

Beth Holloway:

51:40 - I do believe his (Joran) father played a major rule in Natalee's disappearance.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/


Knows Nothing

Disposed - Patrick Vander Eem
Chapter 19:

The Range Rover Recording

PATRICK: But your father and mother also know nothing?

JORAN: No.  If he ever thought that I knew anything, or knew more then he would be the first one to take me to the police.  There is nobody, I have never known anybody more
honest than my father in my life.

PATRICK: Oh.

JORAN: My mother, my mother can lie, y’know.

PATRICk: But everyone can lie, man.

JORAN: Yeah, okay, but my father not.

s.t.

Tomorrow my son and American DIL are driving across the line to join her family at a special 911 memorial service at their church.

The church hubby and I attend in the Central Fraser Valley of British Columbia extended an open invitation to all first responders (RCMP, firemen, paramedics, 911 operators) from our community for a special 9/11 memorial service following by a potluck lunch in their honor.  Hubby and grandsons were at the church today assisting with the setting up of tables and ... the word was that 15 first responders have accepted the invitation. Along with their families the count is 66.

::americaflag::

Four years is little enough but then they only want five years suspension from teaching!!!! They are going to let this "man" reenter a classroom?

That is part of the problem.  There are no real laws to deter anyone from doing bad things.  There are no victim's rights!!  The whole culture is protecting the perpetrator!

Holloway mom crusades for missing children:

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42955000#42955000

Michael J. Fox's wife seeks 'Justice for Natalee'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42957281#42957281

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

I like that Janet. Family here in that category. They are working today. Serving our country. Most of time we do not appreciate them or even think about them, until of course, we as ndividuals need them in our lives. 

Absolutely!  It's sickening!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Reminded me of Farley Wiersma, the customs officer that was convicted of smuggling cocaine to the Netherlands, his sentence was three years in prison, and three years suspension from working for the government!  He'll be back in uniform in no time at all!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.msg1052995#msg1052995 

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 ::snipping2::

Thanks for posting the videos Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Will-van-der-Sloot-get-a-sneak-peek-at-Natalee/zw3ZjkkFSkanUzYt5JaeZw.cspx

Will van der Sloot get a sneak peek at Natalee movie?
         
Print Story Published: 11:45 am Share Updated: 11:50 am     

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  In the stranger than fiction world of Joran van der Sloot, will the accused killer get a sneak peek at a Natalee Holloway movie...in the comfort of his Peruvian prison cell?

The movie by Dutch film maker Paul Ruven is set to debut September 22 at the Utrecht Film Festival in the Netherlands. Me and Mr. Jones on Natalee Island is Ruven's fictional account of an investigative reporter determined to break the real story of what happened when Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway disappeared on a graduation trip to Aruba.

 ::snipping2::

Van der Sloot has been in Peru's Castro Castro prison since he was arrested in Chile days after Stephany's body was discovered. His stay there has been a bizarre parade of incidents including charges he was selling drugs, allegations he had fathered a child with a frequent visitor, a controversial cell block picture of him mugging with a Colombian hitman and an accused murderer from Pennsylvania and even an apparently unauthorized TV interview with Natalee's mother Beth. That interview was turned into a two part program for Dutch TV.

Now, film maker Ruven tells CBS42 that Dutch crime reporter John van den Heuvel will fly to Peru to show van der Sloot a copy of Ruven's film.

In a possibly related story, van den Heuvel has denied he's flying to Peru for a scheduled preliminary hearing in van der Sloot's murder case. Van den Heuvel is quoted by the Dutch newspaper AD saying he isn't making a twelve hour flight for a hearing that van der Sloot may not even appear at.

Sounds logical. But there's little in the van der Sloot/Holloway/Flores saga that has followed logic. So don't be surprised if the next story out of Peru is about prisoner van der Sloot get a sneak peek at Ruven's film

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-hearing-Monday-morning/DpzTOOloXk6IIguAlHG7Ww.cspx

Van der Sloot hearing Monday morning
         
Print Story Published: 9/10 8:06 am Share Updated: 11:54 am     

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The slow process of the Peruvian justice system is grinding one step closer to keeping Joran van der Sloot behind bars.  The Dutchman has a preliminary hearing scheduled in Lima Monday on charges he killed 21 year old student Stephany Flores.

 ::snipping2::

Van der Sloot's defense now is that he killed Flores in a fit of temporary insanity.  Peruvian prosecutors say the motive was robbery and they're seeking a 30 year prison term.

American authorities here in Alabama are waiting their crack at van der Sloot.  A Birmingham grand jury indicted him on extortion and wire fraud charges claiming he promised the Holloway family information about Natalee's fate, took their money, but never provided the information.

Any efforts to extradite van der Sloot to Alabama are stuck in line behind the Peruvian murder charges.

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Following 9/11 ... I knew I would never again take for granted our first responders.

There were two large fire engines parked on the main street outside the building when hubby and I arrived at church this morning.  Already seated inside the sanctuary in a reserved section for our guests were six on-duty fireman.  The Pastor joked ... if these guys made a beeline for the entrance ... the implication was they were forced to respond to an emergency or the sermon was reeeealy bad.

Anyways ... approximately 20 first responders along with family members were present and acknowledge at the service and ... they were first in line at a wonderful potluck lunch which followed.

The RCMP corporal and the fire chief from our community spoke from the heart to all who were present.  Both shared why 9/11 was a humbling experience for them as well as the men and women who served under them.  There was not a dry eye in the congregation and ... both of these guys received standing ovations.

Kat_Gram ... I think of you often.  I hope all is well.

Off to Vancouver to attend a family a gathering.  Hubby is anticipating lots of Japanese food.  I am anticipating lots of great company.

Janet
1:35 PM PT

http://arubaherald.com/court/1052-prosecutor-demands-7-years-jail-time-for-drug-running-cab-driver.html

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It was actually MORE THAN 50 kilos...from the first reports

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9630.msg1389989#msg1389989

http://www.todaysxm.com/2011/08/29/singer-philips-faces-light-sentence-for-child-porn-possession/

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May 3, 2011 Edition of The Morning News

http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/may_3__2011

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http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10531243/__Eerste_hoorzitting_Joran__.html?sn=binnenland,buitenland

First hearing process van der Sloot
Mon September 12, 2011

  ::snipping2::

During the hearing, the lawyers respond to the lawsuit. His lawyer had argued that Van der Sloot Flores was slain "from a violent emotion" and that the charge should be manslaughter. Standing in a prison sentence of between 6 and 20 years.

But in late August it became known that the charge was murder and robbery. The prosecutor demands 30 years in prison and a compensation of around 50,000 euros for the family of Flores.

Are there any American networds in Peru covering this public hearing?

Janet

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First hearing in Joran van der Sloot trial
Published on 12 September 2011 - 8:38am

The first public hearing in the trial of Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is being held in the Peruvian capital Lima. He is accused of killing Peruvian student Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010.

The Public Prosecutor's Office announced at the end of August that Van der Sloot would be charged with murder and robbery and it would be seeking a 30-year jail sentence and damages of 50,000 euros.

His defence lawyer has argued that his client killed Stephany Flores "out of violent emotion" and that the appropriate charge should therefore be manslaughter, which carries a prison sentence of 6-20 years.

Joran van der Sloot was arrested on 3 June 2010 in Chile near the coastal resort of Viña del Mar. He was handed over to the Peruvian authorities two days later and has been in custody in Lima's Castro Castro prison since 11 June 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.rnw.nl/africa/bulletin/first-hearing-joran-van-der-sloot-trial

Considering the the outcome of the laptop investigation ... why does it continue to be an issue in the defence of Joran van der Sloot?

Janet

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Joran van der Sloot to Appear in Peruvian Court on Murder Charges
Published September 12, 2011

LIMA, Peru -- Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, was due in court in Peru on Monday over the murder of a local woman.

The Dutchman is accused of robbing and murdering 21-year-old Stephany Flores, who was found dead in his Lima hotel room in May 2010. He was arrested after fleeing over the border to Chile and has been held in Lima's notorious Castro Castro prison ever since.

Prosecutors and Flores' family are seeking a 30-year prison term, arguing that this would be a "just penalty." Van der Sloot's defense team is seeking to lodge a manslaughter plea with a reduced sentence of six to 20 years, arguing their client acted in "a fit of rage" after Flores accessed files on his computer.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09/12/joran-van-der-sloot-to-appear-in-peruvian-court-on-murder-charges/

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2016185398_apltperuvandersloot.html

Attorney: Van der Sloot trial likely in 2012
The attorney for the family of a Peruvian woman allegedly slain by Joran van der Sloot says it appears likely the young Dutchman's murder trial will not begin until next year.

The Associated Press
Originally published Monday, September 12, 2011 at 10:44 AM

LIMA, Peru —
The attorney for the family of a Peruvian woman allegedly slain by Joran van der Sloot says it appears likely the young Dutchman's murder trial will not begin until next year.

Attorney Edward Alvarez spoke after a hearing Monday on the prosecution's recommendation that Van der Sloot be sentenced to 30 years in prison in the May 2010 killing of Stephany Flores.

Alvarez says the victim's family considers the proposed sentence too lenient. The family contends Van der Sloot planned the murder to rob Flores. Van der Sloot's attorney says the slaying was not premeditated.

 ::snipping2::

Hearing for Van der Sloot held in Peru
12:59 PM, Sep 12, 2011
 
LIMA, Peru (CBS) -- A hearing for Dutch national Joran Van der Sloot who has been charged in Peru of murdering a local woman got underway in Lima Sept. 12.

Van der Sloot did not attend the hearing and neither did his defense lawyers.

<snipped>

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/172815/288/Hearing-for-Van-der-Sloot-held-in-Peru

Attorney: Van der Sloot trial likely in 2012
September 12th, 2011 @ 11:43am

LIMA, Peru (AP) - The attorney for the family of a Peruvian woman allegedly slain by Joran van der Sloot says it appears likely the young Dutchman's murder trial will not begin until next year.

Attorney Edward Alvarez spoke after a hearing Monday on the prosecution's recommendation that Van der Sloot be sentenced to 30 years in prison in the May 2010 killing of Stephany Flores.

<snipped>

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=235&sid=15893415

+++++++

 ::MonkeyShocked::

2012!!!


Woman's family wants speedy trial for van der Sloot
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 17, 2011 -- Updated 2200 GMT (0600 HKT

(CNN) -- The family of a slain Peruvian woman is urging prosecutors to file their case against murder suspect Joran van der Sloot, warning that he may be released by December unless the case goes ahead.

"We are worried because Peruvian law says that if a suspect's trial doesn't begin within 18 months after his arrest, authorities are obligated to set the suspect free," Ricardo Flores, the dead woman's father, told CNN.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/17/peru.van.der.sloot/

What happened?  Is the family now objecting to the prosecution's proposed 30 year sentence for the murder of Stephany Flores?

Janet

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Van der Sloot victim's family caught in time dilemma
Published: 9/09 7:28 am
 
Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The family of murder victim Stephany Flores has another tough decision to make. 

The Flores family wants  prosecutors to seek a longer sentence against confessed killer Joran van der Sloot.  He's currently looking at a thirty year sentence if convicted of killing the 21 year old student.

They also want an end to the legal process that began when their daughter was found dead in van der Sloot's Lima, Peru hotel room in May 2010. 

The family's lawyer tells The Associated Press that Stephany Flores' family won't object to the proposed sentence because it doesn't want the trial delayed.  Lawyer Edward Alvarez says that if the Flores family were to raise objections Monday the trial could be delayed until next year.

Van der Sloot is to appear Monday before a judge who could set the trial to begin as early as October.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-victims-family-caught-in-time/6KmHA5Yr8EKHrL8gAjZPkA.cspx

http://noticias.terra.com.co/internacional/latinoamerica/peru-defensa-de-victima-de-holandes-objeta-acusacion-fiscal,889fded457e52310VgnVCM10000098f154d0RCRD.html

Peru: Dutch defense objected victim of indictment
September 12, 2011 • 11:31

The family of the young Peruvian allegedly killed by the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot in 2010 objected to the indictment on Monday of the prosecution, who asked for 30 years in prison abroad.

Edward Alvarez, attorney for the family of Stephany Flores, said the court will evaluate the objection and, admit it, return to the opinion of the prosecutor for review. This means it is very unlikely that the trial against Van der Sloot for the murder of Flores to start on the rest of this year, said the lawyer.

 ::snipping2::

In a court hearing on Monday, Alvarez objected to the opinion of the prosecutor Miriam Riveros, in late August that called for 30 years in prison for Van der Sloot for murder and robbery simple.

The defense of the Flores family Van der Sloot says he murdered 21-year university for the purpose of stealing, a crime that is punishable by life imprisonment.

"The hall has a maximum of 15 days to decide ... if you believe that our observations are correct, it is possible that the room to return the tax charge to correct," Alvarez told reporters outside the courthouse to .

The defense of Van der Sloot, who appeared at the hearing, the Dutchman claims he acted under a strong emotion to be angry because Flores had been rummaging through your personal computer and discovered the charges against him by the Holloway case.

A few days ago, Alvarez Flores said the family was in the dilemma of accepting the prosecution or otherwise objectionable, because in that case would be delayed the start of the trial with the risk that Van der Sloot in December prompted his release by the deadline maximum prison term of 18 months without being sentenced or prosecuted.

However, Alvarez said Monday the AP that the risk was dismissed because the prosecution have been made about Van der Sloot abroad, the case is considered complex and that justice warrants prison term extended.

 ::snipping2::

Thanks Grace

The last paragraph of your posting relieves my concern that a delayed trial could result in the Stephany Flores case being dismissed.

The 6 1/2 year roller coast ride that we have been riding in regards to Joran van der Sloot is ongoing.

Janet

The article names the court that is involved; explains the 15-day process; and gives the names of the judges.

http://www.aeronoticias.com.pe/noticiero/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20127:sala-deja-al-voto-pedido-de-parte-civil-en-caso-van-der-sloot&catid=49:49

Hall leaves the voting order as a civil party "Van Der Sloot case."
Monday, September 12, 2011 11:45 Plana journalism.

(Aeronoticias) .- The College "B" of the Third Criminal Chamber Jail Inmates at the Court of Lima, left to vote the request in the oral report of the civil party lawyer. The referee has a period of 15 days to issue its decision on that will decide whether to return or not, the Attorney General Opinion Attorney for reformulation.

If the school decides not to return to the opinion of the Attorney General Attorney in the coming days will announce the date and place where it began the trial against Joran Van Der Sloot, charged according to the opinion of the crimes of homicide and simple theft to the detriment of Stephany Flores Ramirez.

The top judges to rule on issue resolution as requested by the defense of Ricardo Flores Chipoco, father of the injured Stephany Flores, who asked the prosecution to be returned to reformulate and also argued in its allegations imposed the maximum sentence the defendant Joran Van Der Sloot.

 ::snipping2::

The school "B" of the Third Criminal Court for Defendants Jail, is chaired by Dr. Flor de Maria Poma Valdivieso, and integrated by Superior Court Judge Martha Vargas Martha Otilia Gonzales and Pilar Luisa Vilchez Carbonel.

Both Natalee Holloway and Stephany Flores families are determined advocates ... determined advocates that the respective Aruban/Dutch and Peruvian justice systems are forced to acknowledge.

Janet

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Attorney's request could delay murder trial against van der SlootBy the CNN Wire Staff
September 12, 2011 -- Updated 1825 GMT (0225 HKT)

(CNN) -- The murder trial against Joran van der Sloot could be delayed if a three-judge panel honors a request from the victim's family to have his indictment sent back to the prosecutor's office, the Lima, Peru, Superior Court said Monday.

Edward Alvarez Yrala, the attorney for the family of Stephany Flores, told a three-judge panel that the indictment against van der Sloot had "mistakes," a news release from the court said.
 
It did not specify what mistakes Yrala referred to in his arguments.

The panel has 15 days to decide on Yrala's request. If a decision is made not to return the indictment to the prosecutor's office, a date will be set for van der Sloot to stand trial on murder and theft charges, the court said.

<snipped>

Prosecutors are asking for a 30-year prison sentence for van der Sloot and a restitution payment of $73,000 to the victim's family.

At Monday's hearing, the Flores family attorney also requested that van der Sloot face the maximum penalty if convicted.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/12/peru.van.der.sloot/

Thanks grace-land!   ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Motive-still-the-linchpin-of-van-der-Sloot-murder/CZlyj162mEqjGxLGmXj9ng.cspx

Motive still the linchpin of van der Sloot murder case (UPDATED)
September 12, 2011 - 4:47 PM

 ::snipping2::

Fifteen months after Stephany Flores' corpse was found in Joran van der Sloot's Lima hotel room the biggest question is not who killed her, but why.

 ::snipping2::

But investigators claim their examination of van der Sloot's computer shows the Holloway info was accessed the day before Flores was killed.

The prosecution theory is murder in the course of a robbery and they're asking for a thirty year sentence. But the Flores family still wants different charges that would result in life imprisonment. Peru does not have the death penalty

Edward Alvarez, the Flores family attorney, wants the charges changed. He told the Lima newspaper El Commercio "it is a possibility that the offense might change."

Under Peruvian law, there are fifteen days to amend the charge or begin the trial.

 ::snipping2::

"Van der Sloot was hungry, Van der Sloot hadn't paid the hotel, Van der Sloot met a girl in the casino that he did not find attractive, but that had money. If you accept this evidence which is sustained by the prosecution we start to realize the murder of Stephany Flores was not a sudden reaction to her seeing information on his laptop pertaining to the Natalee Holloway case, we are warning that the prosecution's account shows this was a planned act," the Flores family lawyer, Edward Alvarez said.

Alvarez said there were also some discrepancies with the evidence presented in the case and the official charges of voluntary manslaughter.

"We have said there are inconsistencies in the prosecution's account and its accusations, between the evidence it uses and what it is asking for. These inconsistencies could bring about negative consequences at trial because it could result in a mistrial," Alvarez said.

 ::snipping2::

YW, texasmom.  Hmmmm..... We have to wait 15 days for the judges to accept or reject the prosecution's charges.
I stand with the family--whatever they want!   ::MonkeyGavel::
 

http://www.mpfn.gob.pe/distrito_judicial/cuadro_informacion.php?dj=lima

 ::snipping2::

9º FISCALIA SUPERIOR PENAL DE LIMA
Dirección: Jr. Miroquesada Nº 220- Segundo Piso
 
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Telefono: 6255555
Anexo: 7329

 ::snipping2::

YW, Janet.

Stephany's family is determined to use the full extent of the law to bring justice for their beloved daughter.  I'm sure that they are receiving very good legal advice.   It might be that Joran's luck is running out?

jmo

Could it be that the Prosecutor did not comprehend that an investigation determined that Stephany was not on Joran's laptop as he claimed in his confession that supported the rage/passion defence?  Could this be the issue that attorney for Stephany's family is contesting.

Again ... I am thankful for advocates akin to Beth Holloway and Ricardo Flores who will challenge justice systems in their pursuit for justice.

Janet

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Peruvian judges to decide on trial date for Van der Sloot
Published on September 12, 2011

<snipped>

His (Joran) defence team is looking to lodge a manslaughter plea which comes with a six to 20 year prison sentence. It says Flores' murder was an act of passion after she allegedly discovered information related to the Holloway case on his laptop.

But prosecutors and Flores' family are seeking a 30-year sentence, arguing the murder and robbing of the young woman was premeditated.

"Van der Sloot was hungry, Van der Sloot hadn't paid the hotel, Van der Sloot met a girl in the casino that he did not find attractive, but that had money. If you accept this evidence which is sustained by the prosecution we start to realize the murder of Stephany Flores was not a sudden reaction to her seeing information on his laptop pertaining to the Natalee Holloway case, we are warning that the prosecution's account shows this was a planned act," the Flores family lawyer, Edward Alvarez said.

Alvarez said there were also some discrepancies with the evidence presented in the case and the official charges of voluntary manslaughter.

"We have said there are inconsistencies in the prosecution's account and its accusations, between the evidence it uses and what it is asking for. These inconsistencies could bring about negative consequences at trial because it could result in a mistrial," Alvarez said.

<snipped>

http://www.ntn24.com/news/news/peruvian-judges-decide-trial-date-van-der-sloot


Van der Sloot looking at 30 years
August 27, 2011

<snipped>

He (Joran) is claiming he killed Flores in a fit of rage after she found material relating to Natalee on his laptop.

Peruvian authorities say the real reason for the killing was robbery and that an examination of the laptop shows Stephany was killed well after the Holloway-related material was accessed.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-looking-at-30-years/Lzvpiriv402NkH7b49Qh8w.cspx

 ::rhino::

Time and time again ... I have made a promise to myself not get on that roller coaster ride of hope and dispair again.  In other words ... the outcome will be what the outcome will be.  Time and time again ... I have broken that promise.
 
Janet

 

http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Nieuws/Nederland/316321/Advocaat-Joran-van-der-Sloot-moet-levenslang-krijgen.htm?rss=true

Google translation:

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IMO, He does look like him... ::MonkeyShocked::

http://twitter.com/#!/MammothBlood (http://twitter.com/#!/MammothBlood)

Daniel Francisco
@MammothBlood Huntington, WV
Stunt so hard, make em come indict me.
http://www.facebook.com/dbfrancisco

MammothBlood Daniel Francisco
You think your life is hard? Try being asked everyday, "Have you ever been told you look like Joran Van Der Sloot!?!?!?"
8 hours ago

This kid has nice eyes.  Sloot has evil eyes.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6080/6142699444_991323a7cf_o.jpg)

I agree.   ::rhino::

That's not the picture I used for comparison.   ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.facebook.com/dbfrancisco

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I agree if you just look at his eyes, he has pretty blue eyes...nothing like Joran's.

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Lawyer: Van der Sloot may admit simple homicide, fight graver charges
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 12, 2011 -- Updated 2343 GMT (0743 HKT

(CNN) -- Joran van der Sloot is willing to confess to a "simple homicide" charge in relation to the May 2010 death of a woman in Peru, but not to more serious charges that would carry longer prison terms, his lawyer said Monday.

Meanwhile, the victim's family asked a three-judge panel for a more stringent charge that could have the 24-year-old Dutch national's indictment sent back to the prosecutor's office -- a move that could prompt a delay in his trial, if the court assents -- the Lima, Peru, Superior Court said Monday.

Both the accused and the victim's family disagree with the indictment proposed by prosecutor Miriam Riveros Castellares. She is asking the panel to indict Van der Sloot on charges of qualified murder and simple robbery, which carry 28-year and 2-year sentences. He would also make a restitution payment of $73,000 to the victim's family.

Attorney Luis Jiminez Navarro and his client, Van der Sloot, did not attend the hearing due to what Navarro described as the massive media interest in the case. But the lawyer did submit his response to a proposed indictment in writing, asking for a simple homicide charge that could carry a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.

He said, too, that his client would confess to this charge.

But the attorney for the family of the victim, Stephany Flores, told the three judges that the prosecutor's proposed indictment against Van der Sloot had "mistakes," a news release from the court said.

It did not specify what mistakes Edward Alvarez Yrala referred to in his arguments.

According to Navarro, Yrala asked the court to charge Van der Sloot with a charge akin to aggravated murder, which carries a maximum sentence of life in prison.

The panel has 15 days to decide on Yrala's request for a new indictment. If a decision is made not to return the indictment to the prosecutor's office, a date will be set for Van der Sloot to stand trial on murder and theft charges, the court said.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/12/peru.van.der.sloot/

https://www.facebook.com/GeraldoRivera (https://www.facebook.com/GeraldoRivera)
Geraldo Rivera
‎*Geraldo Exclusive*
"Jose Baez has been retained by the family of 50 year old Gary Giordano, the principal suspect in the disappearance of 35 year old Maryland native, Robyn Gardner, who went missing in Aruba. Baez and an investigator are in the Caribbean Island right now interviewing witnesses and probing relevant locations. Giordano is being held without bail by Aruban authorities, as they attempt to find evidence sufficient to charge him with Gardner's death."
-Geraldo

Speaks volumes IMO.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Baez is to Giordano as Tacopina was to Van der Sloot

POS to twist the facts, imo

Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if JB vanished while he's there...but we couldn't be that lucky.

What standing if any would JB have in the Aruban courts?

Or are they already planning on a defense strategy in the US courts?

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Baez simply wants a free trip to Aruba.  He'd fit right in.

 ::MonkeyDevil::   ::boxingbaez2::
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6144464941_373e11e621_b.jpg)

I wonder if he took Casey for a romantic side-trip (uhhh paralegal).  :smt078

Can you blame his family?  Baez can get a known murderer off, this is cake to him, AND a free Carribean vacation.  Even though they use Dutch law, since it's close to South America and he's hispanic, he probably thinks there is no difference. 

Lawd!  Now were going to see his ugly mug all over the news again!  ::boxingbaez2::    ::MonkeyWaa::

::MonkeyDevil::

No need to identify either in that pic  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I meant to post this in Robyn's thread. Sorry.  ::MonkeyShocked::