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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 15, 2011, 04:25:26 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/cayleemarie-age252-1.jpg)


FOR LIVE HEARINGS, THESE ARE THE USUAL LINKS:

No refresh clicking required:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream


Split Screen/No refresh Clicking Required:

http://www.youtube.com/user/weshtv#p/l/EUke1XT5_5Q

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


Other live stream sites:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live


http://www.wftv.com/video/27049808/index.html

* Constantly on Casey

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.wesh.com/video/27050096/detail.html

iPhone App:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/casey-anthony-updates/id428240236?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

Android App:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsn.localnews147

SKYFIRE - MOBILE BROWSER FOR iPhone and Android:
http://www.skyfire.com/

MAGIC EYES - Trial Recaps: 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10358.0

 ::MonkeyJustice::



Now that we are finally starting the trial, all Off Topic posts will be moved to the MURDER TRIAL BREAK ROOM without comment to the poster, it will just happen.  Please keep that in mind.  It is too hard for people to catch up if they have to wade thru Off Topic too.  TIA

BREAK ROOM THREAD

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9923.0

Helpful abbreviations

CJBP - Chief Justice Belvin Perry
JA  -    Jeff Ashton
LDB  -  Linda Drane Burdick
FG   -   Frank George


JB  -  Jose Baez - also Bozo, Bumbles, azzhat, Tweedle Dum, etc.  There are so many, I can't think of them all.  I'm sure the blanks will be filled in.
CM -  Cheney Mason - also Mumbles, Colonel Crusty etc.
DCS - Dorothy Clay Simms - Brillo Head, ICA's babysitter and coddler
LKB -  Linda Kenney Baden - no longer on the DT(Defense Team/Dream Team) but still spreading falsities on air
AL  -  Andrea Lyon  - no longer on the DT(Defense Team/Dream Team)

GA - George Anthony
CA - Cindy Anthony - SINdy, Spindy
LA -  Lee Anthony  -  Tubesocks

DP-death penalty
LWOP - life without parole
SA - State attorney

IIRC - if I recall correctly
BBM - bold by me
^5 - high five
ITA - I totally agree
MOO - My Opinion Only
FWIW - for what it's worth
JMO- just my opinion
JMHO- just my honest (or humble) opinion
LOL- laugh out loud
ROFL- roll on the floor laughing
BBL- be back later
IIRC- if I recall correctly

NG-Nancy Grace
AH- Amy Huzienga


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: dani on June 16, 2011, 07:33:40 AM
Good morning monkeys!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 07:49:13 AM
link=topic=10482.msg1394660#msg1394660 date=1308224714]
(I apologize in advance if this has been already asked, but I haven't had time to read through this entire thread yet.)

Question:  Nancy Grace introduced a new theory tonight that suggests that Caylee may have been duct-taped and placed into the garbage bags while still alive.  So wouldn't that negate the "hair/death band" evidence?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been under the impression that her deceased body was wrapped in a blanket and placed in the trunk, head somewhat exposed, which allowed a few hairs to fall out.  Also, the evidence of an impression of a body in a fetal position leaving an imprint would support that the body was not in a bag.  So if the body was in a bag in the trunk the entire time, the hair wouldn't have been exposed and thus unable to shed onto the carpet.  Right?


Well kc took the bag out of the trunk.  I believe the skull was at the top of the bag when found.  My thinking the hair could of come out when transferring the body to the woods.
Was thinking about this:
Who know's HOW kc picked up the bag Caylee was in.
1. Pulled the bag out from only the top.
2. Pulled out from the top and kc put her hands/arms around the middle or the bottom.
Remember Caylee was in the composition time. Maybe the body was in the mushy mod. 
Think that's when fluids came out.

How would anyone pick this bag out of the truck?????

For got to add.

Calyee was what 40 pds????

How would you pick this bag out of kc's trunk?????????????

 ::MonkeyBike::
[/quote]

Was testing the snip thingy....worked
 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 07:49:44 AM
Goodmorning, Dani, Monkeys, Guests!

Today should be an intersting day with the Defense at the reins.

I hope the jury sees through the smoke and mirrors! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 07:59:09 AM
Well kc took the bag out of the trunk.  I believe the skull was at the top of the bag when found.  My thinking the hair could of come out when transferring the body to the woods.
Was thinking about this:
Who know's HOW kc picked up the bag Caylee was in.
1. Pulled the bag out from only the top.
2. Pulled out from the top and kc put her hands/arms around the middle or the bottom.
Remember Caylee was in the composition time. Maybe the body was in the mushy mod. 
Think that's when fluids came out.

How would anyone pick this bag out of the truck?????

For got to add.

Calyee was what 40 pds????

How would you pick this bag out of kc's trunk?????????????

 ::MonkeyBike::
[/quote]

Was testing the snip thingy....worked
 ::justice2NJ::
[/quote]

Since there was a laundry bag, which was verified as being from the Anthony home, and found at the "dump site", I believe it is safe to allege Casey carried/transported Caylee in that bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 16, 2011, 08:11:37 AM
Good Morning Monkees!!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

I'm a little nervous about what shenanigans may come today. I have a question: could the prosecution object to the witness and could the judge say certain witnesses can't testify if they have nothing to do with the case? (I mean come on, the kidnapper witness...has nothing to do with the accidental drowning theory they fabricated)

Whatever happens, I pray that we are one step closer to justice for Caylee!  ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 08:12:05 AM
good morning everyone!
can't wait to see what the defense has today!

does anyone really think that Casey will testify?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 08:13:33 AM
Looks like nobody locked up the last thread.  :P


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 08:16:22 AM
good morning everyone!
can't wait to see what the defense has today!

does anyone really think that Casey will testify?
i think that would be a disaster.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 08:16:25 AM
Looks like nobody locked up the last thread.  :P
I was trying to post back there!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 08:17:43 AM
Looks like nobody locked up the last thread.  :P

whew made it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2011, 08:18:40 AM
I was up early and I couldn't get into SM grrrrrr... it's done now

and so is Casey, lol.  ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingjeffbaez:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::MonkeyShovel:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 08:18:47 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/263696/Defense-to-call-1st-witness-in-Casey-Anthony-trial
Defense to call 1st witness in Casey Anthony trial
Last Updated: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:36 AM

ORLANDO --

The defense is expected to call its first witness in the central Florida murder trial of Casey Anthony, who's accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter in 2008.

The prosecution has presented all its evidence and Thursday jurors will look towards Casey's attorneys to begin delivering on several promises they made at the outset to explain why the 25-year-old's child is dead.

Wednesday, the defense filed a last minute witness, who they describe as "newly" discovered. http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/263420/George-Anthonys-lawyer-lashes-out-about-newly-discovered-defense-witness

Casey is charged with first-degree murder in the death of toddler Caylee in the summer of 2008 and has pleaded not guilty.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 08:19:12 AM
Looks like nobody locked up the last thread.  :P

Real Neat av!!

Klaas you got to do some squirrel av's. hehehehe  Plastered in the wheel well......heheheheh
 ::justice2NJ::

Bring out the clowns.

This WELL be interesting with defense...
 ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 08:19:14 AM
link=topic=10482.msg1394660#msg1394660 date=1308224714]
(I apologize in advance if this has been already asked, but I haven't had time to read through this entire thread yet.)

Question:  Nancy Grace introduced a new theory tonight that suggests that Caylee may have been duct-taped and placed into the garbage bags while still alive.  So wouldn't that negate the "hair/death band" evidence?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been under the impression that her deceased body was wrapped in a blanket and placed in the trunk, head somewhat exposed, which allowed a few hairs to fall out.  Also, the evidence of an impression of a body in a fetal position leaving an imprint would support that the body was not in a bag.  So if the body was in a bag in the trunk the entire time, the hair wouldn't have been exposed and thus unable to shed onto the carpet.  Right?


Well kc took the bag out of the trunk.  I believe the skull was at the top of the bag when found.  My thinking the hair could of come out when transferring the body to the woods.
Was thinking about this:
Who know's HOW kc picked up the bag Caylee was in.
1. Pulled the bag out from only the top.
2. Pulled out from the top and kc put her hands/arms around the middle or the bottom.
Remember Caylee was in the composition time. Maybe the body was in the mushy mod. 
Think that's when fluids came out.

How would anyone pick this bag out of the truck?????

For got to add.

Calyee was what 40 pds????

How would you pick this bag out of kc's trunk?????????????

 ::MonkeyBike::

Was testing the snip thingy....worked
 ::justice2NJ::
[/quote]

I'm in my 40's with a 2 year old that weighs 38lbs.  I'm 5'0" and have had lots of back surgeries.  I carry her up stairs, lay her down while sleeping and though my back doesn't like it at the end of the day I can do it!  Plus she had some adrenalin going I'm sure!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 08:19:56 AM
I was up early and I couldn't get into SM grrrrrr... it's done now

and so is Casey, lol.  ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingjeffbaez:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::MonkeyShovel:: ::justice2NJ::
Happened to me too. 
Today should be very interesting.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 08:21:07 AM
Looks like nobody locked up the last thread.  :P

whew made it
::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 08:23:14 AM
good morning everyone!
can't wait to see what the defense has today!

does anyone really think that Casey will testify?
i think that would be a disaster.
I think if they have a snowballz chance in he77 she's going to have to (and then Linda will chew her up & spit her out!)  I really hope she does.  I honestly think she "THINKS" she is such a good liar, is so beautiful that everyone will believe her!  uhhh not so much!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 08:23:28 AM
Come over  to my home all day

Coffee, tea, milk and Danish all day. Might have hidden beverages for a kick that we might need as the day goes on! ::MonkeySlide:: no reason to put this icon here... just thought it was cute so early at 5 ish


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 08:24:50 AM
good morning everyone!
can't wait to see what the defense has today!

does anyone really think that Casey will testify?
i think that would be a disaster.
Well if she doesn't testify the accusations the defense is claiming against her Dad would just be hearsay and mean nothing. Yet if she does I think she would only be hurting herself because of her track record of lies. So we will see what the she and her defense decides to do. They have pretty much painted her into a corner...or should I say she painted herself into a corner with all her lies.  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 08:25:25 AM
how does everyone know where to go if the cage isnt locked and you cant post i didnt know even how to find the page had not a good monkey left the link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: akmom on June 16, 2011, 08:26:09 AM
Morning Monkeys.  I can't even begin to guess what today will bring.  My stomach is doing flip flops like crazy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 08:28:38 AM
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2077969,00.html
Casey Anthony: The Social Media Trial of the Century 06/16/2011
(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2011/1106/wcasey_0627.jpg)
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2077969,00.html#ixzz1PRQ4Mp5G


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 08:29:12 AM
how does everyone know where to go if the cage isnt locked and you cant post i didnt know even how to find the page had not a good monkey left the link

It goes by date. That is the only way  I found it today. It's still dark out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 08:29:36 AM
I don't understand how the defense could say George was the one who put duct tape on Caylee, then use that same duct tape to put up signs and cover the gas can... Uh, isn't he a former cop and knows that if they ever found Caylee, and they would since suposedly he and Kronk were in on "it" (what "it" is i don't know) and the body was meant to eventually be found, the duct tape would lead back to him? Wouldn't he get rid of the duct tape after using it? Its so obviously NOT George. And another thing, if George was the one who did it, wouldn't he help LE make their case against Casey to keep them off of him? If he's throwing her under the bus by not 'fessing up to what he did, I would think he would be more that cooperative to put Casey in jail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 08:30:49 AM
Good Morning Monkeys! My mom seems to think Casey will be called as the first witness  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: God love her!

Today will no doubt bring the theatrics!  ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingcasey2::

BTW- I'm sorry if this is always asked but what does 2NJ stand for in this >>>  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 08:32:40 AM
Was listening to the shows of last night.
I never once thought of kc putting Caylee into the bag a live.
That's what was discussed last night.

IF kc did that, she's worst of the worst.  "IF"

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 08:33:26 AM
how does everyone know where to go if the cage isnt locked and you cant post i didnt know even how to find the page had not a good monkey left the link

It goes by date. That is the only way  I found it today. It's still dark out

oh ok thank you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 08:34:05 AM
OK along with the beverages and Danish we'll have Pepto Biz, baking soda and water, B12, Alca Z.(don''t know how to spell it), CVS all day pain relief, Excedriin, and a room to go scream in. I'd better find a big room for that 'cuz the defense is up today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 08:34:42 AM
Casey actually "needs" to testify if she wants the jury to buy what the defense/she's selling.

Too many LIES
Too many INCONSISTANCIES.

She's not believable, nor likable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 08:35:08 AM
Morning Monkeys.  I can't even begin to guess what today will bring.  My stomach is doing flip flops like crazy.
I hear ya! I am so anxious to see who they call first and what the duhfense has up their sleeve! I am sure it will be no match for what the defense will do to them. (http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/almaviva1/boxing.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 08:35:36 AM
Good Morning Ree, VinceVixen, dani, Jesse, pharlap, darla, theboyzmom, cece5300, Monkey King, Truth Baby, CJLove23, Magnolia, akmom, IBE, KarmaRoundUp, Slogger, trimmonthelake, _icey_, Rosenut, klaasend, anothermonkey, pegleg, beth1970, justice4caylee5022, Nut44x4, Riley and 38 Guests are viewing this topic.

 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 08:36:18 AM
Morning Monkeys.  I can't even begin to guess what today will bring.  My stomach is doing flip flops like crazy.
I hear ya! I am so anxious to see who they call first and what the duhfense has up their sleeve! I am sure it will be no match for what the defense will do to them. (http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/almaviva1/boxing.gif)
correction for what the state* will do to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 08:37:21 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
Casey Anthony Trial: Defense Begins Their Case
Defense lawyers will begin building their case in the Florida murder trial.
6/16/2011

Video at link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 08:41:09 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/casey-anthony-defense-adds-witness-13854729
Casey Anthony: The Defense Adds New Witness
The defense amended its witness list to include an ex-convict.
06/16/2011

Video at link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 08:42:16 AM
I don't understand how the defense could say George was the one who put duct tape on Caylee, then use that same duct tape to put up signs and cover the gas can... Uh, isn't he a former cop and knows that if they ever found Caylee, and they would since supposedly he and Kronk were in on "it" (what "it" is i don't know) and the body was meant to eventually be found, the duct tape would lead back to him? Wouldn't he get rid of the duct tape after using it? Its so obviously NOT George. And another thing, if George was the one who did it, wouldn't he help LE make their case against Casey to keep them off of him? If he's throwing her under the bus by not 'fessing up to what he did, I would think he would be more that cooperative to put Casey in jail.

Yes, IMO you are right, plus it was industrial heavy duct tape, certain kind, rare, not the flimsy stuff I just bought at Home Depot. Put around a box's edges to hold it together last night. fell apart overnight from the humidity.

Was the skin burned away around the mouth and nose from the chloroform, rotted but the tape over it stayed? How do the know for sure chloroform was a cause of death. I thought the ME said not cause of death known. Has there been later evidence that will come up in the penalty phase or whenever?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: klaasend on June 16, 2011, 08:43:38 AM
how does everyone know where to go if the cage isnt locked and you cant post i didnt know even how to find the page had not a good monkey left the link

Goodmorning Jesse!

#1  We always leave a link when we lock the previous thread
#2  For this trail, we are doing ONE thread for each day.  So you see at the top this thread is dated today (actual day 20 of the trial after jury duty).  It will usually be at the top of the Caylee forum area because as soon as a mod switches over someone usually posts bumping it to the top.  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 08:44:22 AM
Haven't had any sleep. Hope I don't miss anything but I always know Kind Monkeys will be here and report. TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 08:44:55 AM
how does everyone know where to go if the cage isnt locked and you cant post i didnt know even how to find the page had not a good monkey left the link

Goodmorning Jesse!

#1  We always leave a link when we lock the previous thread
#2  For this trail, we are doing ONE thread for each day.  So you see at the top this thread is dated today (actual day 20 of the trial after jury duty).  It will usually be at the top of the Caylee forum area because as soon as a mod switches over someone usually posts bumping it to the top.  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::justice2NJ::

thank you i thought i was going to be alone lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 08:46:51 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  Good Morning Monkeys!

I'm not sure I'm ready for the  (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Casey/Casey%20Comics/cloudoflies1a.gif)






                                                    JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 08:47:34 AM
Was listening to the shows of last night.
I never once thought of kc putting Caylee into the bag a live.
That's what was discussed last night.

IF kc did that, she's worst of the worst.  "IF"

 ::MonkeyMad::

I literally felt sick hearing that so I had to turn it off! How sad!  ::crymonkey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 08:48:22 AM
OK along with the beverages and Danish we'll have Pepto Biz, baking soda and water, B12, Alca Z.(don''t know how to spell it), CVS all day pain relief, Excedriin, and a room to go scream in. I'd better find a big room for that 'cuz the defense is up today.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Oh Ibe... wish I was close.. I would stop on over!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Sister on June 16, 2011, 08:49:01 AM
Good Morning Ree, VinceVixen, dani, Jesse, pharlap, darla, theboyzmom, cece5300, Monkey King, Truth Baby, CJLove23, Magnolia, akmom, IBE, KarmaRoundUp, Slogger, trimmonthelake, _icey_, Rosenut, klaasend, anothermonkey, pegleg, beth1970, justice4caylee5022, Nut44x4, Riley and 38 Guests are viewing this topic.

 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!
Good morning.
 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 08:49:01 AM
I bet Casey is going to be super duper chipper today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 08:49:27 AM
 ::MonkeyGavel:: Good Morning Monkeys Friends!!
Jesse, DonFL, klaasend, Slogger, 4myjoey, Monken, Angiex911dsptchr, IBE, Mtnmom, Gizzie, SweetMorgan, floridatreasure9, AzGrama, cheeky monkey, KCJackie, HopeForAll, WesleyBear, wreck, VinceVixen, tupelohoney, SunnyinTX, CarolF, cookie, darla, Truth Baby, akmom, anothermonkey, _icey_, KarmaRoundUp, Samiam, karenmamo, beachlovers5, cece5300, exlurker, Monkey King, dani, pharlap, theboyzmom, CJLove23, Magnolia and 62 Guests are viewing this topic
I hope you have all followed my previous instructions and admonitions and followed this case on the internet and social media!!!!    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Today ought to be the start of the circus.... I dont care who gets poo flung at them as long as there is JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 08:50:17 AM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

3 years today that Caylee supposed to have died and the defense will make a mockery out of it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 08:50:26 AM
Mornin' Monkeys!  Can't wait to see what these idiots have in store for us today!  Thankfully, I have y'all to hang with!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: floridatreasure9 on June 16, 2011, 08:50:51 AM
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Good morning.
 ::HelloKitty::

Good Morning   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 16, 2011, 08:53:12 AM
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Good Morning!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 08:54:33 AM
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 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!

present!!! Ready to go!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 08:54:43 AM
The attorneys look mighty chipper this morning....I can only assume Casey will be in the same mood.....at least until the jurors arrive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 16, 2011, 08:55:03 AM
 ::HelloKitty:: Morning Monkeys, ready for the circus to start, Justice for Caylee trumps ((edit - please keep to the topic of the thread))  ::justice2NJ::  ::justice2NJ::  ::justice2NJ::  ::boxinggeraldo2::  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 08:55:23 AM
One last thing and one question again

Yesterday I read here that one loon on InSessions was saying JP was ready to take his robe off and join the prosecution ... first of all no one should ever talk bad about my honorable JP! He has so much knowledge and class. So I have to ask if this loon is even watching this trial???  The reason JP is constantly talking down to the defense is because they're all so rude, abrasive, sloppy, unorganized, unprepared, ridiculously clueless, theatrical, and not to mention as dumb as I've ever seen not only a lawyer but a human. HJP has to keep correcting them! It's his job! He talks down to them because they are all like My Cousin Vinny in the beginning! It's insulting to the court of law and overall professionalism!! *Ok deep breath! (I'm not watching InSessions anymore haaa)

Sorry & I have to ask one more time what does 2NJ stand for in this >>> ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 08:55:25 AM
I bet Casey is going to be super duper chipper today.

Closer we get to the defense day (today) her hair style is getting more feminine

I know there are many links on the first page; what one is the best fo see everything including charts et al on the computer? I have HLN on TV but lots of commercials. Any better channel/

Then I will run my computer also and pick from there during commercials. I guess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 16, 2011, 08:55:46 AM
Good morning monkeys, this is gonna be a crazy day.  Gonna be fun to try to deciper Baez's and and ums and Masons mumbles, wish me luck lol.

 ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 08:56:01 AM
OK along with the beverages and Danish we'll have Pepto Biz, baking soda and water, B12, Alca Z.(don''t know how to spell it), CVS all day pain relief, Excedriin, and a room to go scream in. I'd better find a big room for that 'cuz the defense is up today.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Oh Ibe... wish I was close.. I would stop on over!!

Me too....wondering what kind of Danish Ibe has over there....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 08:56:27 AM
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 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!

present!!! Ready to go!!!!


Happy Birthday   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 08:56:42 AM
The attorneys look mighty chipper this morning....I can only assume Casey will be in the same mood.....at least until the jurors arrive.

that will change with the first cross examination lol
we can watch bozo go into his tantrum face look and casey glaring at him and mumbles, well he may fall asleep


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: 4myjoey on June 16, 2011, 08:57:27 AM
I hope you have all followed my previous instructions and admonitions and followed this case on the internet and social media!!!!    ::MonkeyHaHa::
Today ought to be the start of the circus.... I dont care who gets poo flung at them as long as there is JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 08:57:48 AM
Killer in the room and all smiles


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
One last thing and one question again

Yesterday I read here that one loon on InSessions was saying JP was ready to take his robe off and join the prosecution ... first of all no one should ever talk bad about my honorable JP! He has so much knowledge and class. So I have to ask if this loon is even watching this trial???  The reason JP is constantly talking down to the defense is because they're all so rude, abrasive, sloppy, unorganized, unprepared, ridiculously clueless, theatrical, and not to mention as dumb as I've ever seen not only a lawyer but a human. HJP has to keep correcting them! It's his job! He talks down to them because they are all like My Cousin Vinny in the beginning! It's insulting to the court of law and overall professionalism!! *Ok deep breath! (I'm not watching InSessions anymore haaa)

Sorry & I have to ask one more time what does 2NJ stand for in this >>> ::justice2NJ::



2NJ was a mod here on SM . She recently passed away and that sign was dedicated to her in all shes done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Blonde on June 16, 2011, 08:58:29 AM
Was listening to the shows of last night.
I never once thought of kc putting Caylee into the bag a live.
That's what was discussed last night.

IF kc did that, she's worst of the worst.  "IF"

 ::MonkeyMad::

I literally felt sick hearing that so I had to turn it off! How sad!  ::crymonkey2::


I know ,I felt sick too ,I just don't want to believe that..
If she starts coloring  in a coloring book in court I'll be sick..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monken on June 16, 2011, 08:58:43 AM
Was listening to the shows of last night.
I never once thought of kc putting Caylee into the bag a live.
That's what was discussed last night.

IF kc did that, she's worst of the worst.  "IF"

 ::MonkeyMad::

I literally felt sick hearing that so I had to turn it off! How sad!  ::crymonkey2::



It was horrible! What was said that made NG think that, i don't remember LDB saying it that way!?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: akmom on June 16, 2011, 08:58:49 AM
Um, hello, gaping sweater....goods are almost showing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 08:59:02 AM
The attorneys look mighty chipper this morning....I can only assume Casey will be in the same mood.....at least until the jurors arrive.

that will change with the first cross examination lol
we can watch bozo go into his tantrum face look and casey glaring at him and mumbles, well he may fall asleep
::rhino::  I have to admit....I enjoy seeing that!!    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 08:59:02 AM
She is already fidgety!  Loves it.  She is a mess! Hand rubbing, bottle grabbing, pants adjusting.  Oh wow, there must be big plans to shame her family today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 08:59:44 AM
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 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!

present!!! Ready to go!!!!


Happy Birthday   ::MonkeyKiss::

Thank you Angie!!! Pisses me off that I will forever remember that Caylee died on my birthday....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:00:02 AM
She is already fidgety!  Loves it.  She is a mess! Hand rubbing, bottle grabbing, pants adjusting.  Oh wow, there must be big plans to shame her family today.
::rhino::  She's looking a tad nervous this morning.  Sweat biotch, sweat!!!   ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 09:00:03 AM
Killer in the room and all smiles

Shes smiling to FOGHORN.. GAGA.. too early to see this!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 09:00:39 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests

Justice for Caylee Marie!!
 ::MonkeyAngel::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 09:00:42 AM
One last thing and one question again

Yesterday I read here that one loon on InSessions was saying JP was ready to take his robe off and join the prosecution ... first of all no one should ever talk bad about my honorable JP! He has so much knowledge and class. So I have to ask if this loon is even watching this trial???  The reason JP is constantly talking down to the defense is because they're all so rude, abrasive, sloppy, unorganized, unprepared, ridiculously clueless, theatrical, and not to mention as dumb as I've ever seen not only a lawyer but a human. HJP has to keep correcting them! It's his job! He talks down to them because they are all like My Cousin Vinny in the beginning! It's insulting to the court of law and overall professionalism!! *Ok deep breath! (I'm not watching InSessions anymore haaa)

Sorry & I have to ask one more time what does 2NJ stand for in this >>> ::justice2NJ::



2NJ was a mod here on SM . She recently passed away and that sign was dedicated to her in all shes done.

Awww that's so sweet... Thanks Angie!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 16, 2011, 09:01:26 AM
One last thing and one question again

Yesterday I read here that one loon on InSessions was saying JP was ready to take his robe off and join the prosecution ... first of all no one should ever talk bad about my honorable JP! He has so much knowledge and class. So I have to ask if this loon is even watching this trial???  The reason JP is constantly talking down to the defense is because they're all so rude, abrasive, sloppy, unorganized, unprepared, ridiculously clueless, theatrical, and not to mention as dumb as I've ever seen not only a lawyer but a human. HJP has to keep correcting them! It's his job! He talks down to them because they are all like My Cousin Vinny in the beginning! It's insulting to the court of law and overall professionalism!! *Ok deep breath! (I'm not watching InSessions anymore haaa)

Sorry & I have to ask one more time what does 2NJ stand for in this >>> ::justice2NJ::
Not sure if this has been answered, but 2NJ was a beautiful, lovely monkey that passed away earlier this year. I really miss her ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:01:45 AM
She is talking it up until they cue the old dad molested me music then she'll be all tears. Maybe she is nervous about topping her gag and dry heave act from a few days ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 09:02:17 AM
Was listening to the shows of last night.
I never once thought of kc putting Caylee into the bag a live.
That's what was discussed last night.

IF kc did that, she's worst of the worst.  "IF"

 ::MonkeyMad::

I literally felt sick hearing that so I had to turn it off! How sad!  ::crymonkey2::

That made me sick too, I wonder what they  saw with the bags to make them think that, I know with Jessica Lundsford she had poked a hole in the bag with her little finger, so sad. I was listening to Dr Michael Welner last nite and he was talking about Casey how she and mothers like her are detached from people, even their own children, we surely do see that from Casey and I think Casey killed Caylee the 15th after the fight and that's why she duct taped her because she didn't want Cayle to cry while she was trying to kill her with the chloroform or else Cindy would have heard her and she used the trash bag to get her out of the house, with no one being the wiser that it was poor Caylee. JMO



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 09:02:30 AM
Killer in the room and all smiles

I have tears in my eyes right now watching her smile on the anniversary of Caylee's death! She is the biggest POS that has ever lived! I wish nothing but the worst for her!
And I bet that face will change when the jury comes in too! Witch!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 16, 2011, 09:02:45 AM
Good morning, monkeys!

I'm expecting nothing but confusion and frustration - mainly because the defense is so unorganized.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:02:59 AM
Here we go......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 09:03:03 AM
OK along with the beverages and Danish we'll have Pepto Biz, baking soda and water, B12, Alca Z.(don''t know how to spell it), CVS all day pain relief, Excedriin, and a room to go scream in. I'd better find a big room for that 'cuz the defense is up today.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Oh Ibe... wish I was close.. I would stop on over!!

Me too....wondering what kind of Danish Ibe has over there....
We could have good looking male single straight Danes deliver a great deal of pastry and they we could have our "Choice". ((smiles))

Is Court starting now?
We could have good looking male


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 09:03:22 AM
Here we goooooooooooooooo      ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 09:03:44 AM
One last thing and one question again

Yesterday I read here that one loon on InSessions was saying JP was ready to take his robe off and join the prosecution ... first of all no one should ever talk bad about my honorable JP! He has so much knowledge and class. So I have to ask if this loon is even watching this trial???  The reason JP is constantly talking down to the defense is because they're all so rude, abrasive, sloppy, unorganized, unprepared, ridiculously clueless, theatrical, and not to mention as dumb as I've ever seen not only a lawyer but a human. HJP has to keep correcting them! It's his job! He talks down to them because they are all like My Cousin Vinny in the beginning! It's insulting to the court of law and overall professionalism!! *Ok deep breath! (I'm not watching InSessions anymore haaa)

Sorry & I have to ask one more time what does 2NJ stand for in this >>> ::justice2NJ::
Not sure if this has been answered, but 2NJ was a beautiful, lovely monkey that passed away earlier this year. I really miss her ::MonkeyTears::

I'm sorry to ear that but she is looking down on all of you! And I bet she just gave Caylee a big hug for all of us today too  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:03:52 AM
Killer in the room and all smiles

I have tears in my eyes right now watching her smile on the anniversary of Caylee's death! She is the biggest POS that has ever lived! I wish nothing but the worst for her!
And I bet that face will change when the jury comes in too! Witch!!

I know it's horrible!

Do any of them even remember Caylee? Do they even care...sick


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:04:22 AM
OK along with the beverages and Danish we'll have Pepto Biz, baking soda and water, B12, Alca Z.(don''t know how to spell it), CVS all day pain relief, Excedriin, and a room to go scream in. I'd better find a big room for that 'cuz the defense is up today.

don't forget a punching bag and barf bags!  Oh and pillows for when we fall in the floor laughing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:04:32 AM
Gerado Bloise, first defense witness


as if they got anywhere with him before?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:04:45 AM
Defense calls Geraldo Bloise as first witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 09:05:28 AM
she looks nervous no chipper


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:06:25 AM
One last thing and one question again

Yesterday I read here that one loon on InSessions was saying JP was ready to take his robe off and join the prosecution ... first of all no one should ever talk bad about my honorable JP! He has so much knowledge and class. So I have to ask if this loon is even watching this trial???  The reason JP is constantly talking down to the defense is because they're all so rude, abrasive, sloppy, unorganized, unprepared, ridiculously clueless, theatrical, and not to mention as dumb as I've ever seen not only a lawyer but a human. HJP has to keep correcting them! It's his job! He talks down to them because they are all like My Cousin Vinny in the beginning! It's insulting to the court of law and overall professionalism!! *Ok deep breath! (I'm not watching InSessions anymore haaa)

Sorry & I have to ask one more time what does 2NJ stand for in this >>> ::justice2NJ::
Not sure if this has been answered, but 2NJ was a beautiful, lovely monkey that passed away earlier this year. I really miss her ::MonkeyTears::

I miss her, but I know she is holding Caylee's hand right now... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:06:56 AM
Here we go nobody did their job, everyone screwed up blah blah blah


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:07:34 AM
Tony Lazarro's car is being discussed

O brother!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:07:57 AM
Do you think Moe will let Larry & Curly talk today or is he still wanting to be in the spotlight?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: dani on June 16, 2011, 09:09:41 AM
Do you think Moe will let Larry & Curly talk today or is he still wanting to be in the spotlight?

That made me LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 09:10:06 AM
I didn't realize that they checked Tony's car?  It makes sense but I didn't know this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 09:10:48 AM
Tony Lazarro's car is being discussed

O brother!!!!

I don't understand what is going on and it's the first 10 minutes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:10:52 AM
Casey is looking especially indignant today, just moved her seat ...she should be directed to her assigned chair  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:11:07 AM
ICA moves closer to Mason guess they wanna hold hands


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
I didn't realize that they checked Tony's car?  It makes sense but I didn't know this.
I didn't either.  I'll bet that poor boy will never be back to florida when this is all over!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 09:11:32 AM
why did she change chairs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:12:09 AM
Good Morning Ree, VinceVixen, dani, Jesse, pharlap, darla, theboyzmom, cece5300, Monkey King, Truth Baby, CJLove23, Magnolia, akmom, IBE, KarmaRoundUp, Slogger, trimmonthelake, _icey_, Rosenut, klaasend, anothermonkey, pegleg, beth1970, justice4caylee5022, Nut44x4, Riley and 38 Guests are viewing this topic.

 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!

present!!! Ready to go!!!!


Happy Birthday   ::MonkeyKiss::

Thank you Angie!!! Pisses me off that I will forever remember that Caylee died on my birthday....
Awwww.  I'm sorry.  Happy Birthday to you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: klaasend on June 16, 2011, 09:12:21 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/5839364382_8932038776_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/5839364400_d8c2f64bb6_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Blonde on June 16, 2011, 09:12:22 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL-Defense/smails20.jpg)
Casey is in a good mood


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 09:12:42 AM
why did she change chairs

Maybe she wet the other one??   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:13:35 AM
Huge waste of time, huge waste  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 09:13:40 AM
If only the defense would call Dr. G again!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:14:10 AM
Baez is in rare form today..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
Good Morning Ree, VinceVixen, dani, Jesse, pharlap, darla, theboyzmom, cece5300, Monkey King, Truth Baby, CJLove23, Magnolia, akmom, IBE, KarmaRoundUp, Slogger, trimmonthelake, _icey_, Rosenut, klaasend, anothermonkey, pegleg, beth1970, justice4caylee5022, Nut44x4, Riley and 38 Guests are viewing this topic.

 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!

present!!! Ready to go!!!!


Happy Birthday   ::MonkeyKiss::

Thank you Angie!!! Pisses me off that I will forever remember that Caylee died on my birthday....
Awwww.  I'm sorry.  Happy Birthday to you.

Thanks.....Casey truly did put her stamp on ALOT of people's lives....every one of us monkeys will never forget her...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 09:14:28 AM
How come with the defense wants to show a photo they can't put it up on the screen like when the state does, when it was already submitted into evidence?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:14:29 AM
why did she change chairs

Maybe she wet the other one??   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
It just shows that she has to be near men!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:14:57 AM
Photographs of Casey's bedroom


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:15:21 AM
Do you think Moe will let Larry & Curly talk today or is he still wanting to be in the spotlight?

That made me LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

glad I could make someone chuckle!  man we need it with this trial don't we?  I actually cried last night when I heard NG talk about the possibility of Caylee being alive.  My 2 yr old gets really upset if she sees me upset so daammm you ICA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:15:59 AM
why did she change chairs

Maybe she wet the other one??   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
It just shows that she has to be near men!!!
my thoughts exactly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Desdemona on June 16, 2011, 09:16:44 AM
#  Des-need to link back to tweets, please. MB
#caseyanthony just moved chairs 2 b next to att Cheney Mason and immediately LOWERED her chair. She always appears so small & she is.. But..
by abcashleigh via twitter at 8:09 AM


Casey is going DOWN.    

----------------

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE

Rest In Peace, Little One.
August 9, 2005 - June 16, 2008

 :smt049


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:17:10 AM
Hmmmm.....a mirror over the head of Casey's bed.   SKANK!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:17:16 AM
Bozo should have had a court room procedure rehearsal before trial, dipsnit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:17:50 AM
Hmmmm.....a mirror over the head of Casey's bed.   SKANK!!!

Self-absorbed skank


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 09:18:23 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcbedroom.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:18:52 AM
Luminol'd clothing - Cindy washed the clothes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:19:04 AM
Good Morning Ree, VinceVixen, dani, Jesse, pharlap, darla, theboyzmom, cece5300, Monkey King, Truth Baby, CJLove23, Magnolia, akmom, IBE, KarmaRoundUp, Slogger, trimmonthelake, _icey_, Rosenut, klaasend, anothermonkey, pegleg, beth1970, justice4caylee5022, Nut44x4, Riley and 38 Guests are viewing this topic.

 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!

first of all happy birthday and secondly after ICA is sent to he77 forty years from now you'll always remember that beautiful little girl at least once a year.  Celebrate her life and that justice was done - not her death. 

present!!! Ready to go!!!!


Happy Birthday   ::MonkeyKiss::

Thank you Angie!!! Pisses me off that I will forever remember that Caylee died on my birthday....
Awwww.  I'm sorry.  Happy Birthday to you.

Thanks.....Casey truly did put her stamp on ALOT of people's lives....every one of us monkeys will never forget her...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 09:19:56 AM
why did she change chairs

Maybe she wet the other one??   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:20:00 AM
Good Morning Ree, VinceVixen, dani, Jesse, pharlap, darla, theboyzmom, cece5300, Monkey King, Truth Baby, CJLove23, Magnolia, akmom, IBE, KarmaRoundUp, Slogger, trimmonthelake, _icey_, Rosenut, klaasend, anothermonkey, pegleg, beth1970, justice4caylee5022, Nut44x4, Riley and 38 Guests are viewing this topic.

 ::MonkeyBike::  Ready to Rock and Roll!!

first of all happy birthday and secondly after ICA is sent to he77 forty years from now you'll always remember that beautiful little girl at least once a year.  Celebrate her life and that justice was done - not her death. 

present!!! Ready to go!!!!


Happy Birthday   ::MonkeyKiss::

Thank you Angie!!! Pisses me off that I will forever remember that Caylee died on my birthday....
Awwww.  I'm sorry.  Happy Birthday to you.

Thanks.....Casey truly did put her stamp on ALOT of people's lives....every one of us monkeys will never forget her...

oops sorry for intruding on your quote box - it's early and I haven't slept much!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 09:20:11 AM
I thought he was gonna come out swinging......WRONG!!


Mark NeJame
First witness is Gerard Bloise who is CSI for OCSO. Going after the competency of law enforcement. So far, Baez starting flat and not a bang. He's setting up something though and laying groundwork.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:20:12 AM
#  Needs link back to tweet.  MB
#caseyanthony just moved chairs 2 b next to att Cheney Mason and immediately LOWERED her chair. She always appears so small & she is.. But..
by abcashleigh via twitter at 8:09 AM


Casey is going DOWN.    

----------------

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE

Rest In Peace, Little One.
August 9, 2005 - June 16, 2008

 :smt049
Good to see you this morning Desi!  Too bad she can't make herself invisible.  However I expect that to happen by the end of this trial!!  Justice for Caylee!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:20:30 AM
You go Bloise, ask the judge for permission to check your report


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:20:52 AM
My daughter had that exact pooh blanket & I put it in the closet a few weeks ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 09:21:24 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kccloset.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:21:24 AM
Why did he even start with this witness?

Is he just trying to say that the police only investigated her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:21:42 AM
I hope everyone can attend the Caylee Anthony Balloon Release....location is no excuse...you can do it from your current location

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=206615152714185

I think we are in for a long and frustrating day with the DT at the wheel...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 09:22:00 AM
Pants KC was wearing on the 16th of June

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcpants.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: klaasend on June 16, 2011, 09:22:26 AM
Closet

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5318/5839385648_d10d46c2e7_b.jpg)

Pants Casey was wearing.  If I remember correctly Cindy cleaned these

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3369/5839387316_cda6b61a93_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 09:22:41 AM
Why did he even start with this witness?

Is he just trying to say that the police only investigated her

I think he's saying KC didn't have stains on her pants, that she should have if she moved the body....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 09:22:55 AM
didnt cindy wsh her pants...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:23:29 AM
Closet

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5318/5839385648_d10d46c2e7_b.jpg)

Pants Casey was wearing.  If I remember correctly Cindy cleaned these

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3369/5839387316_cda6b61a93_b.jpg)

She sure did klaas...must protect Casey at all costs..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 09:23:51 AM
You go Bloise, ask the judge for permission to check your report

Love that he does that. He did it before when Bozo told him he may.
Bloise looks like such a sweet and honest man.

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:24:16 AM
I thought he was gonna come out swinging......WRONG!!


Mark NeJame
First witness is Gerard Bloise who is CSI for OCSO. Going after the competency of law enforcement. So far, Baez starting flat and not a bang. He's setting up something though and laying groundwork.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551
Thanks Sunny!  He's laying the ground work for an epic fail!!  Please continue to post Mr. NeJame's post.  I value and trust his words and thoughts.  At least he keeps it real, unlike so many others.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: klaasend on June 16, 2011, 09:24:33 AM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5037/5838843503_4065a1a125_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:25:14 AM
Casey laughing with everyone else  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
I hope everyone can attend the Caylee Anthony Balloon Release....location is no excuse...you can do it from your current location

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=206615152714185

I think we are in for a long and frustrating day with the DT at the wheel...


I am ::MonkeyAngel::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 09:25:21 AM
She's laughing again!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 16, 2011, 09:25:33 AM
"what kind of protective clothing do you wear?"
"do you speak while you're doing these things?"
...... going to be a long day.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:25:38 AM
Pants KC was wearing on the 16th of June

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcpants.jpg)
Didn't she have 2 pairs of this pants?  I thought I had read that long ago, but could be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 09:25:47 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcstain.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:25:52 AM
I don't understand something - why did mason get pizzy when jp told jury the defense would put on a case when they did plan on putting on a case and he said so a second later?  I don't get it.  Just being disrespectful?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cecilita on June 16, 2011, 09:26:53 AM
You go Bloise, ask the judge for permission to check your report
Regarding the pooh blanket. How cindy knew that the blanket was missing? I have kids and they have tons of blankets including one of Winnie the pooh if one is missing I will not pay too much attention. I think that George saw the june 15,  casey living with caylee covered with the Winnie the pooh blanket, probably caylee was dead at the time and George never kissed caylee as he said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:27:27 AM
I believe the defense is going for shoddy police work, incompetency

Not to mention Cindy washing the pants


Goooooo Linda (cross examination)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 09:27:46 AM


Good Morning!!

I think it's ironic that today marks the 3 year anniversary that sweet Caylee died and that the defense is starting today.   Do you think they will end today???

Justice is coming for Caylee!!!   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 09:28:02 AM
i hope Linda knows that the pants were washed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Desdemona on June 16, 2011, 09:28:23 AM
Is there any proof Casey was wearing these pants on June 16?  (Other than George's recollection that he thought he remembered her wearing black or dark gray pants?)

And if she was wearing these pants on June 16, could she have put them on after Caylee was already deceased and her body hidden?

And Gerardo B. collected the pants in early AUGUST.  Cindy had washed them, by her own admission.  And Casey could have washed them also, before leaving them in the stinky car.  Ricardo said he saw Casey coming from his garage in early July and she was doing laundry.

No stain on the gray pants means absolutely nothing, IMO.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 09:28:32 AM
i hope Linda knows that the pants were washed

She does  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 09:28:43 AM
Love Linda!!

 ::justice2NJ::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:29:25 AM
considering Casey used Tony's jeep, he is lucky it didn't smell like a dead body had been in it.  Just the aroma of Casey - eww!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 16, 2011, 09:29:35 AM
Go! Linda!

Did it smell like a dead body in Tony's car?

Answer: No


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 09:30:06 AM
OMG bozo and the trash again..havent heard anything about the new witness


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Truth Baby on June 16, 2011, 09:30:29 AM
wth did baez just prove? he's a moron!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 09:30:31 AM
I don't understand something - why did mason get pizzy when jp told jury the defense would put on a case when they did plan on putting on a case and he said so a second later?  I don't get it.  Just being disrespectful?

IMO, yes.....he was being disrespectful and trying to control....didn't work


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:30:32 AM


Good Morning!!

I think it's ironic that today marks the 3 year anniversary that sweet Caylee died and that the defense is starting today.   Do you think they will end today???

Justice is coming for Caylee!!!   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Evidently, judging by Casey's mood she isnt giving it a thought....evil wench

Defense calls .....and we wail lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:30:37 AM
I wish they would chain her to one chair!!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 09:31:09 AM
she just put her seat down


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:32:21 AM
You go Bloise, ask the judge for permission to check your report
Regarding the pooh blanket. How cindy knew that the blanket was missing? I have kids and they have tons of blankets including one of Winnie the pooh if one is missing I will not pay too much attention. I think that George saw the june 15,  casey living with caylee covered with the Winnie the pooh blanket, probably caylee was dead at the time and George never kissed caylee as he said.
on the flip side - my 2 year old has "good" blankets (the expensive ones) that are placed on her bed and her favorite that she sleeps with.  She has some "everyday" blankets too.  The everyday blankets I wouldn't notice.  Her good blankets - I would most definitely notice!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
I wish they would chain her to one chair!!   ::MonkeyMad::
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: dejasade on June 16, 2011, 09:33:01 AM
Who is this?  No sound.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 09:33:04 AM
Luminol'd clothing - Cindy washed the clothes

When does the State get the opportunity to challenge?  Will Cindy be call to testify regarding the issue of the pants ... the pants she washed?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:33:21 AM
Glad y'all are here...I lost my feed for a minute...what happened?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: klaasend on June 16, 2011, 09:33:40 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/5838863835_8d5e9612d9_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 09:34:13 AM
Who is this?  No sound.........

I'm hearing everything at the following link:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:34:18 AM
I don't understand something - why did mason get pizzy when jp told jury the defense would put on a case when they did plan on putting on a case and he said so a second later?  I don't get it.  Just being disrespectful?

IMO, yes.....he was being disrespectful and trying to control....didn't work
thank you - it just didn't make sense to me.  I've never been in a court room before (I just gave a deposition against my father and never had to testify thank goodness) this all just amazes me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 09:34:27 AM
I wish they would chain her to one chair!!   ::MonkeyMad::
::rhino::

Perhaps a nail gun would work better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 09:34:38 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Mark NeJame
Let's see if the defense drops their new witness claim based on what is now clearly known or they take another leap into absurdity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 16, 2011, 09:35:14 AM
::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

3 years today that Caylee supposed to have died and the defense will make a mockery out of it

And just look how distraught her family is.   I know I am always sad on the anniversary of my loved ones' deaths, but I guess I grieve differently than them.  (Sarcasm Alert)
 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 09:35:27 AM
The gal on the stand is Heather Seubert.. I think thats what her last name is?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:35:36 AM
Witness is Heather (I think) Seubert. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:35:39 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Mark NeJame
Let's see if the defense drops their new witness claim based on what is now clearly known or they take another leap into absurdity.


I really like him and his remarks are so witty and spot on!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:35:57 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Mark NeJame
Let's see if the defense drops their new witness claim based on what is now clearly known or they take another leap into absurdity.

another leap  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TexasMonkey on June 16, 2011, 09:36:27 AM
Wait what did I miss? What is now known about the new witness?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:36:28 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Mark NeJame
Let's see if the defense drops their new witness claim based on what is now clearly known or they take another leap into absurdity.
Absurdity defines the Defense quite well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:36:36 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Mark NeJame
Let's see if the defense drops their new witness claim based on what is now clearly known or they take another leap into absurdity.


I really like him and his remarks are so witty and spot on!

Boozing, screwing and tattooing   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:36:39 AM
Witness is Heather (I think) Seubert. 

Casey gives the same stink look to the witness her own defense calls.  She can't stand other women period.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:36:44 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Mark NeJame
Let's see if the defense drops their new witness claim based on what is now clearly known or they take another leap into absurdity.

Absurdity for certain


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:37:27 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Mark NeJame
Let's see if the defense drops their new witness claim based on what is now clearly known or they take another leap into absurdity.

Absurdity for certain

Absurdity to infinity and beyond...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 09:37:34 AM
Look how Casey's giving her the ole stink eye- what's up with that? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:37:43 AM
::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

3 years today that Caylee supposed to have died and the defense will make a mockery out of it

And just look how distraught her family is.   I know I am always sad on the anniversary of my loved ones' deaths, but I guess I grieve differently than them.  (Sarcasm Alert)
 ::MonkeyMad::

You know my beloved dog died earlier this year and on the 22nd of ever month I cry for my 1st baby.  He was a dog.  I'd be in a nuthouse if my something ever happened to my child.  I hope the jury makes the connection what today is and how she is acting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:37:56 AM
Ok we know your an expert move it along!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 09:38:01 AM
So where is this going with Heather S???

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 09:38:24 AM
Ok, get on with it, ask her the relevant questions already!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:39:02 AM
Look how Casey's giving her the ole stink eye- what's up with that? ::MonkeyEek::

She is female.  I have come to the conclusion that all women are a threat to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:39:04 AM
Witness is Heather (I think) Seubert. 

Casey gives the same stink look to the witness her own defense calls.  She can't stand other women period.

Valid observation regarding other women, she is also cocky today with the false impression that her defense is going to save her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 09:39:10 AM
Ok we know your an expert move it along!
Talk about blowing your own horn, what's the point?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:39:12 AM
Is it just me, or does Casey get more evil looking everyday? ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 09:39:12 AM
So where is this going with Heather S???

 ::MonkeyBike::
I'm guessing Baez is going to suggest they found semen on Casey's pants.. or on some other piece of evidence.. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 09:39:30 AM
ICA always looks so mad whenever there is a woman talking about what she has achieved in her life. She HATES women...especially successful women.

 ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingcasey2::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:39:55 AM
OK, get on with it, ask her the relevant questions already!!!

Now that she is qualified as an expert in DNA and serology, Baez will probably ask if Caylee was shot or stabbed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 09:40:04 AM
Wait what did I miss? What is now known about the new witness?

All I have heard so far is that the phone number may have been accidently dialed because the number was similar to George's new job.  I did not hear if that was true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: alagary on June 16, 2011, 09:40:08 AM
Wonder if mumbles will tell defense witnesses not to look at the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 09:40:21 AM
So where is this going with Heather S???

 ::MonkeyBike::
I'm guessing Baez is going to suggest they found semen on Casey's pants.. or on some other piece of evidence.. 

Well she slept with 7 people, which, according to her, does NOT make her a whore...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:40:41 AM
Look how Casey's giving her the ole stink eye- what's up with that? ::MonkeyEek::

She is female.  I have come to the conclusion that all women are a threat to her.
yep!  I'll never forget the look on her face when Amy walked in!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 09:41:02 AM
meant to add that I would assume that if I am correct in my guess, Baez wants to link that fluid to George..     BUT maybe this is bodily fluid from Caylee, after an accidental drowning.  Perhaps Caylee is pulled out of the water, any fluid from the mouth comes out onto Casey's clothes as an attempt is made to revive Caylee...  who knows. i can't think of anything else Baez could be trying to suggest or infer, at this point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 09:41:04 AM
Maybe paternity?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 09:41:21 AM
So where is this going with Heather S???

 ::MonkeyBike::

Taking up time and boring the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:41:36 AM
Maybe paternity?

I was just thinking that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 09:42:09 AM
Look how Casey's giving her the ole stink eye- what's up with that? ::MonkeyEek::

She is female.  I have come to the conclusion that all women are a threat to her.
yep!  I'll never forget the look on her face when Amy walked in!
Casey knows 'her men' have been with this woman. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:42:24 AM
No....your DNA would be a totally unknown entity...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:42:24 AM
I am really curious where this is going.  I hope they aren't going to semen from George or Lee being in Casey's room.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:42:54 AM
Wonder if mumbles will tell defense witnesses not to look at the jury.

I know I was just thinking that same thing!  OH and if Bozo will disclose which ones are "paid" or will gain financially from their testimony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:43:27 AM
So where is this going with Heather S???

 ::MonkeyBike::
I'm guessing Baez is going to suggest they found semen on Casey's pants.. or on some other piece of evidence.. 

Well she slept with 7 people, which, according to her, does NOT make her a whore...  ::MonkeyTongue::

7?   Probably more like 77....7 being only known ones within a time frame, skanky slore


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:43:32 AM
ICA always looks so mad whenever there is a woman talking about what she has achieved in her life. She HATES women...especially successful women.

 ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingcasey2::

pb
I'm waiting for Baez to say....you arrived at your end result due to the fact that you are jealous of Casey Marie Anthony, didn't you?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:43:49 AM
Go get him Jeff!!!!  ::boxingjeffbaez:: ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 09:43:50 AM
Question:  Does the state have the opportunity to have deposed all of the defense witnesses prior to trial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on June 16, 2011, 09:43:50 AM
Is it just me, or does Casey get more evil looking everyday? ::MonkeyShocked::

Evil pointy ears and looks like lightening is striking her today...

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/KC/1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 09:44:04 AM
I find it funny that Mason won't let bozo go to sidebar by himself yet state is smart enough for just one to go!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TexasMonkey on June 16, 2011, 09:44:04 AM
Thanks DonFL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 09:44:42 AM


My sound cut out... what did Awesome Ashton say before the sidebar???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:44:59 AM
If Bozo is going for a lack of evidence, the jury sees it as a waste of time.   They will concentrate on what is there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 09:45:03 AM


ICA always looks so mad whenever there is a woman talking about what she has achieved in her life. She HATES women...especially successful women.

 ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingcasey2::

pb
I'm waiting for Baez to say....you arrived at your end result due to the fact that you are jealous of Casey Marie Anthony, didn't you?

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 09:45:52 AM
Thanks DonFL

 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 09:46:02 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Mark NeJame
Let's see if the defense drops their new witness claim based on what is now clearly known or they take another leap into absurdity.

Mr NeJame is on a roll here lately..lol.
 ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:47:05 AM


My sound cut out... what did Awesome Ashton say before the sidebar???
IIUC, he is questioning whether the "stuff" Bozo is referring to is in evidence and wondering "where he's going with it".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
The jury is probably like WTF..They were ready for him to come out proving his accusations and he comes out attacking evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 09:48:47 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:49:19 AM
The jury is probably like WTF..They were ready for him to come out proving his accusations and he comes out attacking evidence.

I would love to be invisible in the jury room when they begin to deliberate because Im sure their comments will be rich, hysterical & obvious  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 09:49:27 AM


My sound cut out... what did Awesome Ashton say before the sidebar???
IIUC, he is questioning whether the "stuff" Bozo is referring to is in evidence and wondering "where he's going with it".


Thank you, New Monkey!   I am wondering the same thing!!!   I'm sure the jurors are too!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:49:27 AM
There are some empty seats on the ground floor of the gallery.  I guess not so many people are interested in hearing lies!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 16, 2011, 09:49:30 AM
Is Baez trying to sneak in something that is not in evidence in the trial?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::
Feel better, sweet monkey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 09:50:04 AM
During sidebar

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kc11.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 09:50:17 AM
Question:  Does the state have the opportunity to have deposed all of the defense witnesses prior to trial?

yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

They are guilty of egregiously wasting all of our time


O God, as I said that after sidebar we have "matters" we are going to have to attend to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 09:50:39 AM
Is Baez trying to sneak in something that is not in evidence in the trial?


that's honestly what it sounds like to me


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 09:50:41 AM
That's not cool her jumping back and forth in her seat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 09:50:45 AM
Have to discuss some matters outside presence of the jury.  Great start, Bozo!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:51:11 AM
Here we go again!  Grrrrr

Monka, take care of yourself and feel better soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 16, 2011, 09:51:16 AM
what is a "special break"?  smoke or potty?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 09:51:30 AM


I have never seen a defendant move around so much...

Oh crap it's recess time... already?????



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 09:51:41 AM
Wait what did I miss? What is now known about the new witness?

All I have heard so far is that the phone number may have been accidently dialed because the number was similar to George's new job.  I did not hear if that was true.
What I can surmise is that he dialed it, and then hit redial.  That would be the same wrong number over and over.  The defense...mountain meet molehill.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 09:52:16 AM
Here we go again!  Grrrrr

Monka, take care of yourself and feel better soon.
Thanks, Tupelo.  I loved the cloud of lies on the first page! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 09:52:30 AM
That's not cool her jumping back and forth in her seat.
I meant to say jumping back and forth in those seats.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:52:33 AM
Have to discuss some matters outside presence of the jury.  Great start, Bozo!!!


I am afraid this will be how the DT will operate....stall, stall,waste a bunch of time


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 09:52:36 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kc20.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:52:48 AM
This is going to be a long day! I am sure the jury are already rolling their eyes at this dumbass..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 09:53:06 AM
what is a "special break"?  smoke or potty?

smoke


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 09:53:09 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

They are guilty of egregiously wasting all of our time


O God, as I said that after sidebar we have "matters" we are going to have to attend to.
They are all a "waste, huge waste". ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:53:40 AM
I wonder why we aren't allowed to hear what is going on?  First time that's happened!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 16, 2011, 09:53:53 AM
what is a "special break"?  smoke or potty?

smoke pot   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:54:58 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

They are guilty of egregiously wasting all of our time


O God, as I said that after sidebar we have "matters" we are going to have to attend to.
They are all a "waste, huge waste". ::MonkeyCool::

Interestingly, they are in chambers versus open court....sounds like the issue is more of an admonishment rather than legal argument or a dispute about items not in evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 09:55:00 AM
If Bozo is going for a lack of evidence, the jury sees it as a waste of time.   They will concentrate on what is there.


WASTE.... HUGE WASTE!!!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: alagary on June 16, 2011, 09:55:34 AM
There are some empty seats on the ground floor of the gallery.  I guess not so many people are interested in hearing lies!! 
I'd rather watch at home with a couple of brews. JP would throw me out when I bust-up laughing at the defense follys anyway.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 09:56:14 AM
TruTV   discusing the convict issue & reporting that the guy's phone number was probably just mixed up as George was trying to contact someone from work


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 09:56:41 AM
Wait what did I miss? What is now known about the new witness?

All I have heard so far is that the phone number may have been accidently dialed because the number was similar to George's new job.  I did not hear if that was true.
What I can surmise is that he dialed it, and then hit redial.  That would be the same wrong number over and over.  The defense...mountain meet molehill.

And I think the guy called him back probably to say who is this and GA said I'm sorry wrong number simple as that not um I'm trying to cover up my grandaughters death and I need a kidnapper will you play the part


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 09:57:07 AM

Interestingly, they are in chambers versus open court....sounds like the issue is more of an admonishment rather than legal argument or a dispute about items not in evidence.
Thanks Capp!  I hope CJBP is bringing down the gavel on Baez!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 16, 2011, 09:57:11 AM
9:00am Thursday, June 16, 2011 Court is in session.

Defense first witness is Gerardo Bloise

Baez is up........

Gerardo Bloise is a CSI for the OC Sheriff's Office. 

Baez is pleasing the court.  On July 23, 2008  you were asked to inspect a vehicle?  Yes.  Who did this car belong to?  Tony Lazzaro.  You did an exterior and interior inspection of the car and you did an alternative light source test?  Yes, I did.  I checked the trunk area and I saw a stain in the trunk.  I then used a alternative light source and it was positive, I then a presumptive blood test.  What were the results?  Negative.  What did you do next.  I photographed the interior and exterior.  Did you place the car on a lift?  No.  Did you collect any items from Tony's car?  No.  What did you do Aug 6, 2008?  That was a search warrant at the Anthony family residence.  His assignment was to check the bedroom that belonged to Casey and check for clothing and inspect the clothing using an alternative light source and then collect any clothing.  He checked the living room area, the garage area.  Did you check George and Cindy's room? Just cursory.  You did go further in Casey's room?  Yes.  He is showing the defendant, defense exhibits.  The first one is of Casey's bedroom.  Describing the items in Casey's room.  A single bed, items on the wall, a dresser, a closet.  What were you there to do that day?  To collect clothing, check those items with alternative light source and collect the pieces of clothing.  You were going to now look at all of Casey's clothing?  Yes.  What was your goal?  To look for stains.  How do you do that?  I put some black cover on the window to get the room dark and then use alternative light source then check for stain, the separate that item then collect it as evidence.  What is this photo you are looking at now?  That is the closet.  Is that where you got all the items of clothing?  Most of them.  Did you do a thorough job of collecting clothing?  Yes.  Showing now  one of the items you inspected, did you find a suspected stain on this item?  That was the charcoal pants, no stain was found.  Were these pair of pants that Casey was wearing June 16, 2008? Yes.  You found no stains on these pants?  No.  Do you do one piece of clothing at a time?  Yes.  Do you photograph stains as you find them?  Yes.  He is showing the witness a stain and asking him about it.  What do you do with an item that has a stain?  I submit those items to the FBI lab.  Is that a large stain?  I would say a medium stain.  Showing witness another photo, is that another piece of clothing?  Yes, an arrow is on it to show stains, small stains.  These are the types of details you are looking for?  Yes, just stains like that.  After you inspected all of her clothing, what did you do next?  I collected it and submitted it to the FBI.  Were you wearing protective clothing?  Yes, I was in full gear, I do not speak, because I am by myself, lots of laughter.  Was Alina Burroughs with you?  Did you talk to her.  Oh no these pics were in the Lab, I was by myself.  When you were in Casey's room you were with Alina Burroughs and Det. Melich.  Did Det Melich go into the crime scene?  Yes.  Then I submitted the items to the FBI lab along with the photos and property forms.  Are these items protected in anyway from further contamination?  Yes, paper bags.  Like the bags we see here today?  yes. Baez is done.......

Linda is up......

The search warrant scope was for Casey's clothing only?  Yes.  You were aware that the pants worn by Casey Anthony, did you know they were washed by her mother?  Yes.  When you inspected Tony's Jeep did it smell like there had been a dead body in it?  No.  Linda is done.....

Baez is back up....

When you smelled Tony's Jeep, did it smell like there had been a bag of garbage left in it for 3 weeks?  No.  Baez is done.

Witness is excused.

Next defense witness is Heather Seubert.

She is the unit chief of the firearms unit in the FBI lab in Quantico.  She was the unit chief in the DNA unit, in 2008.  She worked with MDNA and Nuclear DNA. She is has tons of education and work with LE and the FBI     
What is serology?  The study of fluids, blood and semen.  She has studied in serology, she has trained other's at the FBI lab. She is very qualified.  The judge is declaring her an expert in Serology and DNA analysis.

How were you involved in this case.  I was assigned to this case when it was received at the FBI lab.  She made a report on Oct 8, 2008.  He is taking her section by section of this report.  What do Q's and K's mean?  They are assigned to items of evidence.  A q item is a unknown sample and a K item is a known sample.  Were you given items that had to do with a Pontiac Sun fire?  Yes, received under a letter of communication on July 8, 2008, items of evidence.  Side bar.....side bar is over. 

Judge says he needs to take up matters outside of the jury.  In recess for a special break. 9:50am

Looks like they are going in the judges chamber.  9:50am


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 09:58:23 AM
Wait what did I miss? What is now known about the new witness?

All I have heard so far is that the phone number may have been accidently dialed because the number was similar to George's new job.  I did not hear if that was true.
What I can surmise is that he dialed it, and then hit redial.  That would be the same wrong number over and over.  The defense...mountain meet molehill.

And I think the guy called him back probably to say who is this and GA said I'm sorry wrong number simple as that not um I'm trying to cover up my grandaughters death and I need a kidnapper will you play the part

LOL.... I know, right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

So sorry you don't feel well  :smt056

I have been extra agitated this week too, according to my dh.  I had to have a glass of wine last night while preparing dinner... which is something I never do. 

Feel better soon, Monkalicious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 10:00:37 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

They are guilty of egregiously wasting all of our time


O God, as I said that after sidebar we have "matters" we are going to have to attend to.
They are all a "waste, huge waste". ::MonkeyCool::

Interestingly, they are in chambers versus open court....sounds like the issue is more of an admonishment rather than legal argument or a dispute about items not in evidence.
I swear I could hear Jeff Ashton thinking "I'm gonna whoop your butt, Baez" as he was walking up to side bar.  Did anyone else hear it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 10:01:31 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::
Feel better, sweet monkey.
Thanks, New.  I'm almost grateful for the sidebar so I can catch up!  I don't get where Baez is going with these witnesses...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 10:01:40 AM
On InSessions someone asked whey the defense couldn't start yesterday since their witnesses were in town and Casey Jordan said that she thinks they wanted the surprise witness crap to take away from what the real evidence (paraphrasing)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:02:03 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

They are guilty of egregiously wasting all of our time


O God, as I said that after sidebar we have "matters" we are going to have to attend to.
They are all a "waste, huge waste". ::MonkeyCool::

Interestingly, they are in chambers versus open court....sounds like the issue is more of an admonishment rather than legal argument or a dispute about items not in evidence.
I swear I could hear Jeff Ashton thinking "I'm gonna whoop your butt, Baez" as he was walking up to side bar.  Did anyone else hear it?


LOL.... I was just wondering how much restraint it is taking on Jeff Ashton's part not to punch Bozo in the mouth....
 ::boxingjeffbaez:: ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 10:02:35 AM
Question:  Does the state have the opportunity to have deposed all of the defense witnesses prior to trial?

yes
Thank you!  I thought they did but couldn't remember.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::
Feel better, sweet monkey.
Thanks, New.  I'm almost grateful for the sidebar so I can catch up!  I don't get where Baez is going with these witnesses...


Monkalicious....he is going nowhere.... ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:02:55 AM
On InSessions someone asked whey the defense couldn't start yesterday since their witnesses were in town and Casey Jordan said that she thinks they wanted the surprise witness crap to take away from what the real evidence (paraphrasing)

Well the jury has no clue about any of this...Unless he just did it for the media


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 16, 2011, 10:04:06 AM
TruTV   discusing the convict issue & reporting that the guy's phone number was probably just mixed up as George was trying to contact someone from work

Not to be too insensitive here but just showing how easy it is to misdial.....

I called a tile company to come out & give us a quote to retile our laundry room.  Left several messages saying I just want you to come measure & give me a quote.  I mistakenly called a funeral home!!!  Can you imagine what they thought! They received calls asking them to come "measure" & give me a quote!  I called them three times & was upset they weren't returning my calls - I was redialing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:04:34 AM
Insessions reporting that judge has left the room and Baez and Jeff Ashton are in the room going through exhibits...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 10:05:23 AM
Wait what did I miss? What is now known about the new witness?

All I have heard so far is that the phone number may have been accidently dialed because the number was similar to George's new job.  I did not hear if that was true.
What I can surmise is that he dialed it, and then hit redial.  That would be the same wrong number over and over.  The defense...mountain meet molehill.

And I think the guy called him back probably to say who is this and GA said I'm sorry wrong number simple as that not um I'm trying to cover up my grandaughters death and I need a kidnapper will you play the part

LOL.... I know, right?
This is Theater of the Absurd!  Nejame called it.  (O/T Happy Birthday,Cubbee.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: AZSunny on June 16, 2011, 10:05:56 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

They are guilty of egregiously wasting all of our time


O God, as I said that after sidebar we have "matters" we are going to have to attend to.
They are all a "waste, huge waste". ::MonkeyCool::

Interestingly, they are in chambers versus open court....sounds like the issue is more of an admonishment rather than legal argument or a dispute about items not in evidence.
I swear I could hear Jeff Ashton thinking "I'm gonna whoop your butt, Baez" as he was walking up to side bar.  Did anyone else hear it?


LOL.... I was just wondering how much restraint it is taking on Jeff Ashton's part not to punch Bozo in the mouth....
 ::boxingjeffbaez:: ::boxingjeffbaez::

He approached the sidebar and was very antimated as soon as Baez arrived.  I think JP  and  Jeff are teaching Baez law as they go along.  Unreal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:06:00 AM
TruTV   discusing the convict issue & reporting that the guy's phone number was probably just mixed up as George was trying to contact someone from work

Not to be too insensitive here but just showing how easy it is to misdial.....

I called a tile company to come out & give us a quote to retile our laundry room.  Left several messages saying I just want you to come measure & give me a quote.  I mistakenly called a funeral home!!!  Can you imagine what they thought! They received calls asking them to come "measure" & give me a quote!  I called them three times & was upset they weren't returning my calls - I was redialing!

It happens to everyone.   We will never see this guy testify.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 10:06:59 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

So sorry you don't feel well  :smt056

I have been extra agitated this week too, according to my dh.  I had to have a glass of wine last night while preparing dinner... which is something I never do. 

Feel better soon, Monkalicious.
thanks, Cali, I think it's the unpredictability of the defense.  I'm on tenterhooks waiting for them to pull some type of shenanigans like the Vasco Thompson crap. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:06:59 AM
TruTV   discusing the convict issue & reporting that the guy's phone number was probably just mixed up as George was trying to contact someone from work

Not to be too insensitive here but just showing how easy it is to misdial.....

I called a tile company to come out & give us a quote to retile our laundry room.  Left several messages saying I just want you to come measure & give me a quote.  I mistakenly called a funeral home!!!  Can you imagine what they thought! They received calls asking them to come "measure" & give me a quote!  I called them three times & was upset they weren't returning my calls - I was redialing!
I have had the worst luck with businesses calling me, thinking they're sending another business a fax. Drives me nuts.  I have had to look up the number online to get the main number for the company, and tell them to knock it off. Usually I won't hear back from them, but sometimes it takes a bit..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:07:04 AM
TruTV   discusing the convict issue & reporting that the guy's phone number was probably just mixed up as George was trying to contact someone from work

Not to be too insensitive here but just showing how easy it is to misdial.....

I called a tile company to come out & give us a quote to retile our laundry room.  Left several messages saying I just want you to come measure & give me a quote.  I mistakenly called a funeral home!!!  Can you imagine what they thought! They received calls asking them to come "measure" & give me a quote!  I called them three times & was upset they weren't returning my calls - I was redialing!

That is too funny! And it is really easy to call the wrong number, then alot of times that number will return the call...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:07:45 AM
Insessions reporting that judge has left the room and Baez and Jeff Ashton are in the room going through exhibits...

Because Ashton brought up that something was not in evidence


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 10:07:55 AM
::HelloKitty::  Good Morning Monkeys!

I'm not sure I'm ready for the  (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Casey/Casey%20Comics/cloudoflies1a.gif)






                                                    JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE




Tupelo... this is awesome!!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 10:08:36 AM
By the way, Awesome Ashton is a terrific name for Jeff.  It makes him sound like a WWF Wrestler, doesn't it?  He needs a cape!  ::boxingjeffbaez::
Let's get ready to Ruuummmmmbbblle!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:08:47 AM
Wait what did I miss? What is now known about the new witness?

All I have heard so far is that the phone number may have been accidently dialed because the number was similar to George's new job.  I did not hear if that was true.
What I can surmise is that he dialed it, and then hit redial.  That would be the same wrong number over and over.  The defense...mountain meet molehill.

And I think the guy called him back probably to say who is this and GA said I'm sorry wrong number simple as that not um I'm trying to cover up my grandaughters death and I need a kidnapper will you play the part

LOL.... I know, right?
This is Theater of the Absurd!  Nejame called it.  (O/T Happy Birthday,Cubbee.)

Feel better girl! We have a ways to go yet! Mark Nejame has earned alot of respect from me as this goes on....
and Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:09:41 AM
Insessions reporting that judge has left the room and Baez and Jeff Ashton are in the room going through exhibits...

Because Ashton brought up that something was not in evidence

now I'm confused..   Ashton brought up something not in evidence, which Baez missed, and then Baez himself introduced it again this morning as evidence?  And now we have a sidebar?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 10:10:14 AM

Mark NeJame
Weak first witness for defense. They are laying groundwork but still didn't start with a bang. He'll work on tying this together later. Strategy will be to lay the pieces of puzzle out and connect them later.



Mark NeJame
Baez attempting to establish that #CaseyAnthony did not have bodily stains on her clothes as a result of handling a decomposing Caylee.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:10:24 AM
I don't have a link to it, I'm sorry but I just heard it a few days ago.  Does anyone remember Cindy saying that no matter what happened, Casey had to have had help.  I wonder if the defense will bring this up when insinuating that George helped cover up the - uh hem chuckle - drowning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:10:55 AM
TruTV   discusing the convict issue & reporting that the guy's phone number was probably just mixed up as George was trying to contact someone from work

Not to be too insensitive here but just showing how easy it is to misdial.....

I called a tile company to come out & give us a quote to retile our laundry room.  Left several messages saying I just want you to come measure & give me a quote.  I mistakenly called a funeral home!!!  Can you imagine what they thought! They received calls asking them to come "measure" & give me a quote!  I called them three times & was upset they weren't returning my calls - I was redialing!

That is too funny! And it is really easy to call the wrong number, then alot of times that number will return the call...


I will also go further to say that I do NOT believe the defense "just happened upon this" recently.   They have had the phone records for 3 years thru discovery, they wanted a "bombshell" as bozo promised & apparently he felt this was it....ridiculous considering the guy wouldnt even talk to his bully PI Lyons & called LE instead when they were bothering him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:11:12 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:11:39 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)
WTF  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 10:12:22 AM
Hmmmm.....a mirror over the head of Casey's bed.   SKANK!!!

WTH??? ::MonkeyEek::  I never noticed that before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 10:12:28 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  I'm not feeling well and overslept, today of all days!  I can't believe it's been 3 years since this all started.  I have been so agitated the last few days, I know there will be ultimate justice, but I want it now!  Has the defense done anything egregious yet?  I see a sidebar now.  I'm going to catch up, but just wanted to say thank you all for everything. ::MonkeyAngel::

They are guilty of egregiously wasting all of our time


O God, as I said that after sidebar we have "matters" we are going to have to attend to.
They are all a "waste, huge waste". ::MonkeyCool::

Interestingly, they are in chambers versus open court....sounds like the issue is more of an admonishment rather than legal argument or a dispute about items not in evidence.
I swear I could hear Jeff Ashton thinking "I'm gonna whoop your butt, Baez" as he was walking up to side bar.  Did anyone else hear it?


LOL.... I was just wondering how much restraint it is taking on Jeff Ashton's part not to punch Bozo in the mouth....
 ::boxingjeffbaez:: ::boxingjeffbaez::

He approached the sidebar and was very antimated as soon as Baez arrived.  I think JP  and  Jeff are teaching Baez law as they go along.  Unreal.

Coarse 101......send jose to a corner till he learns...
 ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 10:13:03 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)
WTF  ::MonkeyEek::
ditto!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:13:10 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:13:36 AM
WFTV blogger asked the question "Can a lawyer lie in court"   Bill Schaeffer, no good lawyer would lie in court.

Well, the clowns have lied more than Pinocchio & as much as their client!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:14:03 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::




hahahahahah!    Foiled again Bozo & Colonel Crusty


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 10:14:10 AM
I don't have a link to it, I'm sorry but I just heard it a few days ago.  Does anyone remember Cindy saying that no matter what happened, Casey had to have had help.  I wonder if the defense will bring this up when insinuating that George helped cover up the - uh hem chuckle - drowning.
I remember Lippman saying that on HLN with Vinny P  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 10:14:22 AM
TruTV   discusing the convict issue & reporting that the guy's phone number was probably just mixed up as George was trying to contact someone from work

Not to be too insensitive here but just showing how easy it is to misdial.....

I called a tile company to come out & give us a quote to retile our laundry room.  Left several messages saying I just want you to come measure & give me a quote.  I mistakenly called a funeral home!!!  Can you imagine what they thought! They received calls asking them to come "measure" & give me a quote!  I called them three times & was upset they weren't returning my calls - I was redialing!

It happens to everyone.   We will never see this guy testify.

I for one would like to see him testify.  I think once he does, it will confirm to the jury that the defense has no clue.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:14:36 AM

Mark NeJame
Weak first witness for defense. They are laying groundwork but still didn't start with a bang. He'll work on tying this together later. Strategy will be to lay the pieces of puzzle out and connect them later.



Mark NeJame
Baez attempting to establish that #CaseyAnthony did not have bodily stains on her clothes as a result of handling a decomposing Caylee.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Hi Sunny!! I agree with Cubbee about NeJame. He's been a clear voice of common sense in hiss commentary about this trial. He's doing a great job.

Morning Monkeys!

They're back on the record!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:14:43 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Like Zeus. “@bobkealing: #judgeperry just showed up at the back door of courtroom. He's everywhere. #CaseyAnthony”

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:15:56 AM
WFTV blogger asked the question "Can a lawyer lie in court"   Bill Schaeffer, no good lawyer would lie in court.

Well, the clowns have lied more than Pinocchio & as much as their client!!

HeHe....notice he said no GOOD lawyer would lie in court....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:16:14 AM
The State just shared somehting among themselves they seemed to enjoy.   :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:16:43 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::




hahahahahah!    Foiled again Bozo & Colonel Crusty

This should be interesting for sure!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
The State just shared somehting among themselves they seemed to enjoy.   :smt102

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I seen that LDB probably got the text about the news conference from the felon..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:18:07 AM
The State just shared somehting among themselves they seemed to enjoy.   :smt102

Maybe the tweet that Vasco is going to have a press conference  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:19:12 AM
link=topic=10482.msg1394660#msg1394660 date=1308224714]
(I apologize in advance if this has been already asked, but I haven't had time to read through this entire thread yet.)

Question:  Nancy Grace introduced a new theory tonight that suggests that Caylee may have been duct-taped and placed into the garbage bags while still alive.  So wouldn't that negate the "hair/death band" evidence?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been under the impression that her deceased body was wrapped in a blanket and placed in the trunk, head somewhat exposed, which allowed a few hairs to fall out.  Also, the evidence of an impression of a body in a fetal position leaving an imprint would support that the body was not in a bag.  So if the body was in a bag in the trunk the entire time, the hair wouldn't have been exposed and thus unable to shed onto the carpet.  Right?


Well kc took the bag out of the trunk.  I believe the skull was at the top of the bag when found.  My thinking the hair could of come out when transferring the body to the woods.
Was thinking about this:
Who know's HOW kc picked up the bag Caylee was in.
1. Pulled the bag out from only the top.
2. Pulled out from the top and kc put her hands/arms around the middle or the bottom.
Remember Caylee was in the composition time. Maybe the body was in the mushy mod. 
Think that's when fluids came out.

How would anyone pick this bag out of the truck?????

For got to add.

Calyee was what 40 pds????

How would you pick this bag out of kc's trunk?????????????

 ::MonkeyBike::

Was testing the snip thingy....worked
 ::justice2NJ::

I'm in my 40's with a 2 year old that weighs 38lbs.  I'm 5'0" and have had lots of back surgeries.  I carry her up stairs, lay her down while sleeping and though my back doesn't like it at the end of the day I can do it!  Plus she had some adrenalin going I'm sure!
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Same here, I could easily carry my son to his room when he fell asleep either in my room or sitting on the couch with me....I did this all the time until we was 8 (and about 55 lbs) and even now I have to do it on a rare occasion (he wieghs 75lbs now), and I weigh 105. I think it's just something parents can do, and also we probably build up to it gradually so it's not like you've never picked up a sleeping child for the first time when they weigh over 30lbs, generally you have been doing it for many yrs off and on. I hope that makes sense LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
Casey can give all the dirty looks she wants, no blood present means NOTHING  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:20:01 AM
West and Capp........... I'll bet you're right!! So much for how seriously they take it!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:20:05 AM
I don't see the point in showing there is no blood evidence.  The state never said blood was found.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:20:11 AM
She would have no blood if Caylee was suffocated or drugged


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 10:20:16 AM

Mark NeJame
Weak first witness for defense. They are laying groundwork but still didn't start with a bang. He'll work on tying this together later. Strategy will be to lay the pieces of puzzle out and connect them later.



Mark NeJame
Baez attempting to establish that #CaseyAnthony did not have bodily stains on her clothes as a result of handling a decomposing Caylee.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

I would imagine Casey changed clothes very quickly once her dad thought she was going to work. I doubt if she stayed in those pants. Testimony showed Caylee was decomposing before being put in the trunk by one of experts so this is just a show of nothing for defense IMO.

I like NeJame's input in this. Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 10:20:48 AM
Pants KC was wearing on the 16th of June

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcpants.jpg)

kcjackie


TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED INTERVIEW OF GEORGE ANTHONY
CONDUCTED BY: DETECTIVE EDWARDS
CASE # 08-74777


<snipped>

A: Right, she had a pinkish color top. One of those, uh, one has a sleeve on it. She had her little sunglasses on, they was white rimmed sunglasses. Her hair was in a ponytail that day, I remember that very very well. And my daughter had a like decent pair of like dress slacks on, top that she could be wearing to be going to work. There’s not nothing unusual about the way she was dressed. I know she had a backpack full of stuff.

Q: What color were her um, slacks, do you remember?

A: Like a charcoal grey, like a pin stripe, like a pin stripe through it.

<snipped>

This Transcript Has Been Reviewed For Accuracy.
Signed This 25th Day of September 2008.
Detective Edwards OCSO Deputy Sheriff

Q: Gray slacks.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825322/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-interview

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony080408.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2011, 10:21:05 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 10:21:31 AM
The State just shared somehting among themselves they seemed to enjoy.   :smt102

Maybe the tweet that Vasco is going to have a press conference  ::MonkeyHaHa::

The State's got to love the fact this witness is now going media savy on the defense..taking a page form the defense's own notebook.  What comes around goes around..or is it what goes arounds comes around?

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:21:59 AM
I don't get this - no one claimed there was blood in the trunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:22:30 AM
I don't get this - no one claimed there was blood in the trunk.
I'm sure the jury is thinking the same thing. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
Would there have been blood if she was given chloroform and smothered with duct tape? She was put in numerous containers evidently such as the trash bags(NG said there were 3) and the laundry bag. I don't see that blood would be on anything but I am no expert.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 10:23:00 AM

Mark NeJame
Weak first witness for defense. They are laying groundwork but still didn't start with a bang. He'll work on tying this together later. Strategy will be to lay the pieces of puzzle out and connect them later.



Mark NeJame
Baez attempting to establish that #CaseyAnthony did not have bodily stains on her clothes as a result of handling a decomposing Caylee.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

On the morning of June 16th ... decomposition had not yet taken place.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 10:23:04 AM

Where are they going with this?  Blood was never mentioned before!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:23:12 AM
Didn't Cindy wash Casey's pants before they were collected by LE?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:23:30 AM
I don't get this - no one claimed there was blood in the trunk.

And according to the defense, the victim drowned "on her own"" today, three years ago...so the jury has to be thinking WTF!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 10:24:00 AM

Mark NeJame
Weak first witness for defense. They are laying groundwork but still didn't start with a bang. He'll work on tying this together later. Strategy will be to lay the pieces of puzzle out and connect them later.



Mark NeJame
Baez attempting to establish that #CaseyAnthony did not have bodily stains on her clothes as a result of handling a decomposing Caylee.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

On the morning of June 16th ... decomposition had not yet taken place.

Janet

morning s/b afternoon



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 10:24:05 AM

Mark NeJame
Weak first witness for defense. They are laying groundwork but still didn't start with a bang. He'll work on tying this together later. Strategy will be to lay the pieces of puzzle out and connect them later.



Mark NeJame
Baez attempting to establish that #CaseyAnthony did not have bodily stains on her clothes as a result of handling a decomposing Caylee.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Hi Sunny!! I agree with Cubbee about NeJame. He's been a clear voice of common sense in hiss commentary about this trial. He's doing a great job.

Morning Monkeys!

They're back on the record!

Hi CBB....I like his commentary too....he is just so honest and down to earth. He calls them as he sees them...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 10:24:34 AM

Where are they going with this?  Blood was never mentioned before!!

Bozo is the "Nowhere Man"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 10:25:07 AM
Didn't Cindy wash Casey's pants before they were collected by LE?

She sure did  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 10:25:13 AM
I don't get this - no one claimed there was blood in the trunk.

Baez has been bringing up blood forever in this case..even though the State has never said Caylee died from any blood thirsty way..remember he was asking everyone before about seeing Casey with knoves, with blood on her, etc..he asked each friend those types of questions at the end.

It makes no difference ..the State never said there would be any blood..and due to the State's theory there would not be blood.
Just good old duct tape and chloroform.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:25:14 AM
I don't have a link to it, I'm sorry but I just heard it a few days ago.  Does anyone remember Cindy saying that no matter what happened, Casey had to have had help.  I wonder if the defense will bring this up when insinuating that George helped cover up the - uh hem chuckle - drowning.
I remember Lippman saying that on HLN with Vinny P  ::MonkeyWink::

Really, what did they say? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 10:25:40 AM
The State just shared somehting among themselves they seemed to enjoy.   :smt102

I saw that and immediately thought it was about the 'new witness' for the defense calling a press conference!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 10:26:04 AM
Luminol'd clothing - Cindy washed the clothes

When does the State get the opportunity to challenge?  Will Cindy be call to testify regarding the issue of the pants ... the pants she washed?

Janet

Anyone?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:26:06 AM
I don't get this - no one claimed there was blood in the trunk.

Baez has been bringing up blood forever in this case..even though the State has never said Caylee died from any blood thirsty way..remember he was asking everyone before about seeing Casey with knoves, with blood on her, etc..he asked each friend those types of questions at the end.

It makes no difference ..the State never said there would be any blood..and due to the State's theory there would not be blood.
Just good old duct tape and chloroform.

i know, I wonder if he thinks there would be blood with decomp or if he really believes the jury will think, oh no blood so no murder.  It is hard to tell with him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:26:21 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:27:11 AM

Mark NeJame
Weak first witness for defense. They are laying groundwork but still didn't start with a bang. He'll work on tying this together later. Strategy will be to lay the pieces of puzzle out and connect them later.



Mark NeJame
Baez attempting to establish that #CaseyAnthony did not have bodily stains on her clothes as a result of handling a decomposing Caylee.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1109656551

Hi Sunny!! I agree with Cubbee about NeJame. He's been a clear voice of common sense in hiss commentary about this trial. He's doing a great job.

Morning Monkeys!

They're back on the record!

Hi CBB....I like his commentary too....he is just so honest and down to earth. He calls them as he sees them...


Me too Sunny!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 10:27:25 AM
Agree with those saying a mother can lift and carry their child well beyond the age of 2-3 years.  I had to lift one of my sons when he had surgery at age 6 and he was almost as big as I was by then.

I took that to mean Cindy didn't think Casey was mentally capable of being smart enough to hide anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:27:32 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...

That would be great!!!
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 10:27:40 AM
I don't get this - no one claimed there was blood in the trunk.

And according to the defense, the victim drowned "on her own"" today, three years ago...so the jury has to be thinking WTF!


Exactly!!  Their defense is simply to confuse the jurors (and this monkey)   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:27:58 AM
Didn't Cindy wash Casey's pants before they were collected by LE?

Yes, when LE came she had washed them which I thought was strange if she wasn't covering for KC.  

Bozo is just rambling and nothing is relevant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 10:28:20 AM
This is boring and going no where to prove anything at all.

It is just more triviato try to confuse the jury.  I am sure the jury realizes this and wonders why do we have to go over this again because the State already said long ago the pants did not have nay DNA, etc..because it was washed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:28:25 AM
Luminol'd clothing - Cindy washed the clothes

When does the State get the opportunity to challenge?  Will Cindy be call to testify regarding the issue of the pants ... the pants she washed?

Janet

Anyone?

Wish I could tell you.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:29:01 AM
Bozo looking at the jury like see I told you my client was innocent!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 10:29:12 AM
Luminol'd clothing - Cindy washed the clothes

When does the State get the opportunity to challenge?  Will Cindy be call to testify regarding the issue of the pants ... the pants she washed?

Janet

Anyone?

Janet, they could agree that they agree there was no blood....but I guess they just want to let JB continue to make a fool of himself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 10:29:18 AM
Probably those pants "smelled like a dead body" from being in the car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 10:29:27 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...

Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail????? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:29:43 AM
So this testimony confirms that Casey didn't wash her work clothes?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 10:29:47 AM
The only thing I'm taking away from this testimony so far, is that Casey Anthony is a slob!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:30:08 AM
So this testimony confirms that Casey didn't wash her work clothes?

edit - pretend work clothes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:30:10 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...


OHhhhhhh, that's just too rich, Cubbee!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
He really might say that he does know Casey. He's a male within the Orlando area, afterall.   :roll:

I wish the State could stipulate that there was no blood found anywhere and make the defense just move on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:30:33 AM
Just because Casey's "faux" work pants didnt have biologicals on them  doesnt mean she didnt have other clothes on at the time she did all that she did.   Casey could have easily thrown away or burnt the actual clothes she wore during her crimes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:30:46 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...

Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail????? 

No this guy is not in jail he used to be in jail was charged with kidnapping awhile ago.. Cannot wait to hear what he says


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 10:31:11 AM
Probably those pants "smelled like a dead body" from being in the car.

I think that's why Cindy washed them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:31:31 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...

Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail????? 

The convicted felon got out of jail in 2004


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:31:34 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
See some of the evidence photos from the #CaseyAnthony trial this morning: http://goo.gl/lJf6T

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 10:31:38 AM
link=topic=10482.msg1394660#msg1394660 date=1308224714]
(I apologize in advance if this has been already asked, but I haven't had time to read through this entire thread yet.)

Question:  Nancy Grace introduced a new theory tonight that suggests that Caylee may have been duct-taped and placed into the garbage bags while still alive.  So wouldn't that negate the "hair/death band" evidence?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been under the impression that her deceased body was wrapped in a blanket and placed in the trunk, head somewhat exposed, which allowed a few hairs to fall out.  Also, the evidence of an impression of a body in a fetal position leaving an imprint would support that the body was not in a bag.  So if the body was in a bag in the trunk the entire time, the hair wouldn't have been exposed and thus unable to shed onto the carpet.  Right?


Well kc took the bag out of the trunk.  I believe the skull was at the top of the bag when found.  My thinking the hair could of come out when transferring the body to the woods.
Was thinking about this:
Who know's HOW kc picked up the bag Caylee was in.
1. Pulled the bag out from only the top.
2. Pulled out from the top and kc put her hands/arms around the middle or the bottom.
Remember Caylee was in the composition time. Maybe the body was in the mushy mod. 
Think that's when fluids came out.

How would anyone pick this bag out of the truck?????

For got to add.

Calyee was what 40 pds????

How would you pick this bag out of kc's trunk?????????????

 ::MonkeyBike::

Was testing the snip thingy....worked
 ::justice2NJ::

I'm in my 40's with a 2 year old that weighs 38lbs.  I'm 5'0" and have had lots of back surgeries.  I carry her up stairs, lay her down while sleeping and though my back doesn't like it at the end of the day I can do it!  Plus she had some adrenalin going I'm sure!


Same here, I could easily carry my son to his room when he fell asleep either in my room or sitting on the couch with me....I did this all the time until we was 8 (and about 55 lbs) and even now I have to do it on a rare occasion (he wieghs 75lbs now), and I weigh 105. I think it's just something parents can do, and also we probably build up to it gradually so it's not like you've never picked up a sleeping child for the first time when they weigh over 30lbs, generally you have been doing it for many yrs off and on. I hope that makes sense LOL
[/quote]..........................
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Tks for all the in site.
However I didn't write my post correctly.

How would you have picked up a mushy body out of kc's car trunk.
Put your hands around the bottom, middle and bottom , just top of the bag OR all of the above.

Maybe that's when the fluid and hair could of come out and land in the car trunk.

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 10:31:43 AM


I have to head to work... bet Bozo is still talking to this witness about the same thing by the time I get there.  Be back soon...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:31:48 AM
Just because Casey's "faux" work pants didnt have biologicals on them  doesnt mean she didnt have other clothes on at the time she did all that she did.   Casey could have easily thrown away or burnt the actual clothes she wore during her crimes.


I wouldn't be surprised if she put on Cindy's clothes to do anything icky.  She prob. isn't that smart though just spiteful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Mtnmom on June 16, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
wonder if they found the shorts she wore in the video store


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 10:32:19 AM
Casey had some nasty clothes..all of them are stained..not bio stains but stained and faded. 
Casey is a filthy pig.  All that cleaning and scrubbing and then she wears nasty stained and dirty clothing..ugh.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:32:22 AM


I have to head to work... bet Bozo is still talking to this witness about the same thing by the time I get there.  Be back soon...

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:32:23 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...

Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail????? 


Two different peeps Ang....the dude just came into play yesterday...supposedly George had contact with him after Caylee reported missing...he is a convicted "violent" kidnapper...its all bogus chicky!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:32:25 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Seubert say they also tested trunk liners/ spare covers and no DNA profile could be generated. Jurors take notes. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 10:32:47 AM
Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail????? 
Yesterday it was reported that the defense was going to add a new witness. This guy is a convicted felon for kidnapping and other charges. They are trying to imply that George talked with this guy on June 14, 2008, as his phone records have this guys #.  There were 4 calls.  The number called is very similar to George's new job.  Most likely two numbers were transposed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
I don't get this - no one claimed there was blood in the trunk.

And according to the defense, the victim drowned "on her own"" today, three years ago...so the jury has to be thinking WTF!


Exactly!!  Their defense is simply to confuse the jurors (and this monkey)   ::MonkeyHaHa::

That was what I predicted would happen since he has no defense. This blood thing is a rabbit trail the defense is hoping the jury will follow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:33:01 AM
Casey is looking around like, is anyone buying this?  Does this prove I'm innocent?  Can I go to fusion tonight?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:33:07 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...

Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail????? 

It's the guy (former inmate) whose phone number appears on George's phone records. His number was very close to the number of George's new job.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:33:10 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Is juror 6 falling asleep again? Just watched his head bob.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:33:11 AM
Come on she didn't really wear these "work" clothes! You know damn well she left in work clothes when GA and CA were around and changed into shorts or dresses in the car


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Scatty on June 16, 2011, 10:33:40 AM
I don't see the point in showing there is no blood evidence.  The state never said blood was found.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I was thinking the same thing. This is a huge waste of time! I hope the jury sees is this way too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 10:34:03 AM
All this stain talk and all I'm getting is that ICA was a HOE...sounds like male stains to me  ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyShocked::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 10:34:20 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...


OHhhhhhh, that's just too rich, Cubbee!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
He really might say that he does know Casey. He's a male within the Orlando area, afterall.   :roll:

I wish the State could stipulate that there was no blood found anywhere and make the defense just move on.
I wish I could get over the suspicion that the defense is behind this guy to get themselves fired as Casey's lawyers so they can get the hell out of Dodge and let someone else handle the mess they've created!  (I know, paranoid conspiracy theory, but I put nothing past these charlatans!) ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:34:35 AM
Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail?????  
Yesterday it was reported that the defense was going to add a new witness. This guy is a convicted felon for kidnapping and other charges. They are trying to imply that George talked with this guy on June 14, 2008, as his phone records have this guys #.  There were 4 calls.  The number called is very similar to George's new job.  Most likely two numbers were transposed.

The taxpayers of Florida should demand their money back they paid for an incompetent PI who investigated this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:34:40 AM
I don't see the point in showing there is no blood evidence.  The state never said blood was found.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I was thinking the same thing. This is a huge waste of time! I hope the jury sees is this way too.

Do you think we'll get to hear testimony that there wasn't blood on the duct tape that killed her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 16, 2011, 10:35:09 AM
I don't get this - no one claimed there was blood in the trunk.

He's trying to confuse the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 10:35:24 AM
wonder if they found the shorts she wore in the video store
Yes, those would be the item to be tested!!  Good thinking!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:35:40 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...


OHhhhhhh, that's just too rich, Cubbee!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::
He really might say that he does know Casey. He's a male within the Orlando area, afterall.   :roll:

I wish the State could stipulate that there was no blood found anywhere and make the defense just move on.

Oh Dear Lord...what if he came forward as Caylees bio dad????
Disclaimer....please do not take this and run with it!!!!!
I can tell we are in for a long haul with these BOZO's in the lead....Caylee deserves so much more!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:35:54 AM
Casey had some nasty clothes..all of them are stained..not bio stains but stained and faded. 
Casey is a filthy pig.  All that cleaning and scrubbing and then she wears nasty stained and dirty clothing..ugh.




Can you imagine being one of the guys that she boinked, knowing what they know now...not that I feel sorry for them, snit they need to have had a better radar for skank at the time (in her case its not too difficult).

DNA was tested, sex origin determined but did not meet the standards of the FBI lab


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:35:57 AM
Wait what did she just say? About sex something but not fitting the criteria in the lab?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 10:36:07 AM
Just because Casey's "faux" work pants didnt have biologicals on them  doesnt mean she didnt have other clothes on at the time she did all that she did.   Casey could have easily thrown away or burnt the actual clothes she wore during her crimes.


So true........

 ::MonkeyBike:: ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 10:36:21 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...

Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail????? 

No this guy is not in jail he used to be in jail was charged with kidnapping awhile ago.. Cannot wait to hear what he says


Thank you.. I was totally confused.. lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:36:23 AM
who was Casey smirk/smiling at to her left?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 10:36:47 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Is juror 6 falling asleep again? Just watched his head bob.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)
::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Hope one of his fellow jurors gives him a nudge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:37:07 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Seubert say they also tested trunk liners/ spare covers and no DNA profile could be generated. Jurors take notes. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)
  and now he's asking about Touch DNA.  Oh brother!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
Touch DNA refers to a type of DNA testing where you would expect to find limited amounts of DNA

Such as a piece of paper that you've handled, to your hand to the item tested


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:38:10 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Seubert say they also tested trunk liners/ spare covers and no DNA profile could be generated. Jurors take notes. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)
  and now he's asking about Touch DNA.  Oh brother!  ::MonkeyTongue::

The absence of Casey's DNA on anything would indicate to me she cleaned up.  I would expect her DNA all over all this stuff (with the exception of time eroding it).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 10:38:14 AM
Pants KC was wearing on the 16th of June

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcpants.jpg)

kcjackie


TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED INTERVIEW OF GEORGE ANTHONY
CONDUCTED BY: DETECTIVE EDWARDS
CASE # 08-74777


<snipped>

A: Right, she had a pinkish color top. One of those, uh, one has a sleeve on it. She had her little sunglasses on, they was white rimmed sunglasses. Her hair was in a ponytail that day, I remember that very very well. And my daughter had a like decent pair of like dress slacks on, top that she could be wearing to be going to work. There’s not nothing unusual about the way she was dressed. I know she had a backpack full of stuff.

Q: What color were her um, slacks, do you remember?

A: Like a charcoal grey, like a pin stripe, like a pin stripe through it.

<snipped>

This Transcript Has Been Reviewed For Accuracy.
Signed This 25th Day of September 2008.
Detective Edwards OCSO Deputy Sheriff

Q: Gray slacks.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825322/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-interview

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony080408.pdf


When you consider the time lapse ... it amazes me how George Anthony is so detailed to what Casey and Caylee were wearing when the left the house on June 16th.

I doubt that my hubby could recall what I was wearing yesterday.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:38:17 AM
Sidebar requested by the State, grounds for relevance


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Mere on June 16, 2011, 10:38:24 AM
I already have him on mute and I am reading here.....Thanks..! 

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
They can take forever asking everybody if blood was found with any testing, but it will take one second for the State to clear it up with one question:

State: Would you expect to find the victim's blood if death occurred by suffocation or chloroform poisoning?

Thank you, NEXT!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 10:39:30 AM
nobody ever said there was blood on the shovel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 10:39:44 AM
Bobo is sucking time from us that we can never get back...     ::boxingbaez2::
His questions are ridiculous
                                                                                    ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 10:39:47 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Is juror 6 falling asleep again? Just watched his head bob.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)
::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Hope one of his fellow jurors gives him a nudge.

If people in the gallery start to dose they are tod they will be thrown out..isn't it just as important for the jury to stay awake?

FTLOG..give the jurors No Doze while the defense goes throught their issues.

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:39:59 AM
What exactly is Beaz saying didn't have DNA on it?  The shovel? So would that mean we disbelieve the neighbor who testified that she borrowed it? 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 10:40:10 AM
They can take forever asking everybody if blood was found with any testing, but it will take one second for the State to clear it up with one question:

State: Would you expect to find the victim's blood if death occurred by suffocation or chloroform poisoning?

Thank you, NEXT!

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Mary on June 16, 2011, 10:41:24 AM
Bozo is wasting time on purpose WHY. Or is he just being a jerk?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
nobody ever said there was blood on the shovel
And she told Cindy and George she used it, granted she prob. lied about why she used it but they still said that she told them she used it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Blonde on June 16, 2011, 10:41:34 AM
George is VERY stressed today


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 10:42:07 AM
I can't take his voice anymore...I'm on my patio having a "Special Break"  cigarette  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I have been smoking more and more  ::MonkeyNoNo::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:42:25 AM
All I am gonna say is that this line of questioning is a Waste...Huge Waste.... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 10:42:48 AM
Okay, the defense has to have planned this out, right?  Order of witnesses, what questions they are going to ask?  They have a strategy, right?  Tell me they have a strategy, please, other than to bore the jury into a coma!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
Oh, dear Lord, the flip chart!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 10:43:13 AM
I can't take his voice anymore...I'm on my patio having a "Special Break"  cigarette  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I have been smoking more and more  ::MonkeyNoNo::

pb

Me too pb and I am suppose to be quitting...Casey killing me too... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
All I am gonna say is that this line of questioning is a Waste...Huge Waste.... ::MonkeyDevil::

I'm starting to think he is aiming to fill up X number of days for the defense case, no matter what it takes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:43:38 AM
Just because Casey's "faux" work pants didnt have biologicals on them  doesnt mean she didnt have other clothes on at the time she did all that she did.   Casey could have easily thrown away or burnt the actual clothes she wore during her crimes.


It is an illogical conclusion here - if there was no Caylee DNA does it mean KC never touched Caylee. Here goes bozo on that "touch DNA" again. That is just another rabbit trail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 10:43:59 AM
Bozo is wasting time on purpose WHY. Or is he just being a jerk?
Both.  I never knew he could multi task.... ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 10:44:15 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Oh my. The convicted felon the defense wants to call as a witness is holding a news conference at 4 at courthouse

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

WOW  ::MonkeyNoNo::



 ::MonkeyEek:: is he going to say it's all bogus .....  :2thinky: :2saywhaa: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :smt098


Maybe he is going to disclose that he was offered money to go along with the farce the DT is trying to put out there...

Im confused... so.. there is a DUDE in jail who is suppose to testify? And this Jail bird dude wants a press conference? I thought there was a girl who was in jail????? 


Two different peeps Ang....the dude just came into play yesterday...supposedly George had contact with him after Caylee reported missing...he is a convicted "violent" kidnapper...its all bogus chicky!!!


Thanks T   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 10:44:16 AM
They can take forever asking everybody if blood was found with any testing, but it will take one second for the State to clear it up with one question:

State: Would you expect to find the victim's blood if death occurred by suffocation or chloroform poisoning?

Thank you, NEXT!

 ::rhino::
She wiped it clean when she was done!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:44:23 AM
anthonycase WOFL
Jurors 15,16,17 are whispering to each other, giggling about something while attorneys at sidebar. #caseyanthony #fox35

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:44:38 AM
Please somebody make him stop!!

 ::MonkeyHang:: :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:44:41 AM
Pants KC was wearing on the 16th of June

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcpants.jpg)

kcjackie


TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED INTERVIEW OF GEORGE ANTHONY
CONDUCTED BY: DETECTIVE EDWARDS
CASE # 08-74777


<snipped>

A: Right, she had a pinkish color top. One of those, uh, one has a sleeve on it. She had her little sunglasses on, they was white rimmed sunglasses. Her hair was in a ponytail that day, I remember that very very well. And my daughter had a like decent pair of like dress slacks on, top that she could be wearing to be going to work. There’s not nothing unusual about the way she was dressed. I know she had a backpack full of stuff.

Q: What color were her um, slacks, do you remember?

A: Like a charcoal grey, like a pin stripe, like a pin stripe through it.

<snipped>

This Transcript Has Been Reviewed For Accuracy.
Signed This 25th Day of September 2008.
Detective Edwards OCSO Deputy Sheriff

Q: Gray slacks.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825322/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-interview

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony080408.pdf


When you consider the time lapse ... it amazes me how George Anthony is so detailed to what Casey and Caylee were wearing when the left the house on June 16th.

I doubt that my hubby could recall what I was wearing yesterday.

Janet

I know it's a little different, but I can remember precisely, down to the color lipstick, what my Mom was wearing the last time I saw her alive. In that case, I didn't know it would be the last anymore than George would have known he wouldn't have seen Caylee again. Within a few days, the circumstances of not seeing Caylee became unusual, and you begin to replay in your mind the last time you saw the person. JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:44:46 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:45:03 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
The defense has insinuated when shovel owner Brian Burner testified that media attention influenced him.. He is the only one who ..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
All I am gonna say is that this line of questioning is a Waste...Huge Waste.... ::MonkeyDevil::
Agreed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:45:23 AM
Oh, dear Lord, the flip chart!

His office website claims "latest technology" - I guess that a flip chart is his idea of technology. geeshhhhhhhh   they are so lame it makes me crazy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 10:45:28 AM
They can take forever asking everybody if blood was found with any testing, but it will take one second for the State to clear it up with one question:

State: Would you expect to find the victim's blood if death occurred by suffocation or chloroform poisoning?

Thank you, NEXT!

 ::rhino::
She wiped it clean when she was done!   
Could you delete mods. I commented on wrong post


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 10:46:09 AM
MarkNeJame
#baez #caseyanthony Baez is emphasizing that no blood. Setting this up as foundation in order to claim that police didn't check anyone else.

»
Mark NeJame

#Baez #CaseyAnthony He's attempting to lay the groundwork claiming that no fluids lead to Casey's belongings and no fluid check on others.


https://twitter.com/#!/MarkNeJame (https://twitter.com/#!/MarkNeJame) Fixed-used hyperlink.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:46:30 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
The defense has insinuated when shovel owner Brian Burner testified that media attention influenced him.. He is the only one who ..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

@$$HAT!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:46:51 AM
GaryTuchmanCNN Gary Tuchman
It's unusual in a major trial to be allowed to email and text. We can't chew gum, talk, or even whisper in the courtroom, but we can tweet.

http://twitter.com/#!/GaryTuchmanCNN (http://twitter.com/#!/GaryTuchmanCNN)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 10:46:56 AM
I can't take his voice anymore...I'm on my patio having a "Special Break"  cigarette  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I have been smoking more and more  ::MonkeyNoNo::

pb

Me too pb and I am suppose to be quitting...Casey killing me too... ::MonkeyMad::

Same here.. just had a special break out on the breezeway..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.

I would be stressed too if my child did all the things that skank has tried to do to him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 10:47:30 AM
I  c a n t    t a ke   m u c h    m o r e  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:47:35 AM
Oh, dear Lord, the flip chart!

His office website claims "latest technology" - I guess that a flip chart is his idea of technology. geeshhhhhhhh   they are so lame it makes me crazy.

I know that cracked me up & then seeing this it makes it even more hilarious  :smt044


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 10:47:54 AM
George is VERY stressed today

I was wondering if he and Sindy were there.. I hadnt seen them yet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:47:57 AM
anthonycase WOFL
Juror 8 looks to be taking lots of notes today. #caseyanthony #fox35

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 10:48:08 AM
I can't take his voice anymore...I'm on my patio having a "Special Break"  cigarette  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I have been smoking more and more  ::MonkeyNoNo::

pb

Me too pb and I am suppose to be quitting...Casey killing me too... ::MonkeyMad::

So am I  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingcasey2::

Happy Birthday!

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 10:48:19 AM
KC is looking a bit bored today!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 10:48:29 AM
For the amount of time that Casey handled the shovel, to walk back to her house, and back to the Burner's house, with shovel in hand, and who knows what else she used it for, there would have to be touch DNA on at least the handle.   She cleaned it for sure, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:49:04 AM
I can't take his voice anymore...I'm on my patio having a "Special Break"  cigarette  ::MonkeyHaHa::
I have been smoking more and more  ::MonkeyNoNo::

pb

Me too pb and I am suppose to be quitting...Casey killing me too... ::MonkeyMad::

Same here.. just had a special break out on the breezeway..

I don't smoke, but I may start after this rabbit trail.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:49:58 AM
 KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
The defense has insinuated when shovel owner Brian Burner testified that media attention influenced him.. He is the only one who ..

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Refused all media interviews!!!!!!! He is the last one who wanted media attention

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 10:50:02 AM
I am losing my will to live listening to this carp!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 16, 2011, 10:50:17 AM
Definitely can't handle this today. I'm just gonna read here and not put myself through the agony of watching it on tv


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:50:56 AM
For the amount of time that Casey handled the shovel, to walk back to her house, and back to the Burner's house, with shovel in hand, and who knows what else she used it for, there would have to be touch DNA on at least the handle.   She cleaned it for sure, imo.

If I remember correctly -if it was a wood handle, wood is not normally conducive for testing for DNA markers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 10:50:59 AM
I am losing my will to live listening to this carp!
exactly  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:51:02 AM
is there a point to this.... ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:51:03 AM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
This jury seems to like listening to the forensic & science testimony. Right now they're all very attentive to the testimony on touch DNA.

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Sister on June 16, 2011, 10:51:03 AM
I  c a n t    t a ke   m u c h    m o r e  ::MonkeyEek::

::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:51:19 AM
Ok no fingerprints you made your point! Move on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.

I would be stressed too if my child did all the things that skank has tried to do to him.
I'm sure he is anticipating being called to testify and is hoping that he won't punch Bozo when he makes him come down to the easel thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 10:51:33 AM
pages behind..why is Bozo asking so much about blood evidence if Caylee supposedly drowned? sorry if this has been said..back to catching up


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: klaasend on June 16, 2011, 10:51:50 AM
Please watch the quote stacks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 10:51:54 AM
Bozo is wasting time on purpose WHY. Or is he just being a jerk?
Both.  I never knew he could multi task.... ::MonkeyJnBox::
This is so irrelevant to this case and wasting the jurors time. Now would be a good time for them to get a nap in.  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 10:52:05 AM
KC is looking a bit bored today!

She is not the only one who is bored.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:52:06 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Pix of George Anthony listening to DNA evidence in #CaseyAnthony trial. http://yfrog.com/h3w4zxiyj

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 10:52:08 AM
Ok no fingerprints DNA, Blood you made your point! Move on

sorry self edit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cecilita on June 16, 2011, 10:52:11 AM
Pants KC was wearing on the 16th of June

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcpants.jpg)

kcjackie


TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED INTERVIEW OF GEORGE ANTHONY
CONDUCTED BY: DETECTIVE EDWARDS
CASE # 08-74777


<snipped>

A: Right, she had a pinkish color top. One of those, uh, one has a sleeve on it. She had her little sunglasses on, they was white rimmed sunglasses. Her hair was in a ponytail that day, I remember that very very well. And my daughter had a like decent pair of like dress slacks on, top that she could be wearing to be going to work. There’s not nothing unusual about the way she was dressed. I know she had a backpack full of stuff.

Q: What color were her um, slacks, do you remember?

A: Like a charcoal grey, like a pin stripe, like a pin stripe through it.

<snipped>

This Transcript Has Been Reviewed For Accuracy.
Signed This 25th Day of September 2008.
Detective Edwards OCSO Deputy Sheriff

Q: Gray slacks.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825322/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-interview

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/Library/CMA/interviews/ganthony080408.pdf


When you consider the time lapse ... it amazes me how George Anthony is so detailed to what Casey and Caylee were wearing when the left the house on June 16th.

I doubt that my hubby could recall what I was wearing yesterday.

Janet
I was thinking the same, I do not even remember what i wore last week..I think that those pants have stains that indicated that casey killed caylee wearing those pants. He gave the detail description because he was 100% sure that those pants do not have evidence because cindy wash them


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:52:17 AM
I  c a n t    t a ke   m u c h    m o r e  ::MonkeyEek::

seriously, a complete lesson on DNA just to hear, hey there wasn't any.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 10:52:40 AM
nobody ever said there was blood on the shovel
And she told Cindy and George she used it, granted she prob. lied about why she used it but they still said that she told them she used it. 

THE SHOVEL - THE BAMBOO SHOOT

Neighbor testifies Casey Anthony borrowed shovel
updated 5/25/2011 5:21:35 PM ET 2011-05-25T21:21:35


<snipped>

Caylee was last seen on June 16, 2008. One of the grandparents' neighbors, Brian Burner, testified that Anthony asked him June 18 if she could borrow a shovel to "dig up a bamboo root." She returned the shovel about an hour later, he said.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43170019/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/neighbor-testifies-casey-anthony-borrowed-shovel/


Exclusive: Grandparents of Missing Toddler 'On the Record'
Wednesday, August 06, 2008


<snipped>

VAN SUSTEREN: Does Casey say she borrowed a shovel from a neighbor?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: And what did she say her purpose of borrowing a shovel...

CINDY ANTHONY: To look (ph) for the bamboo.

VAN SUSTEREN: So to remove the bamboo, which grows very...

CINDY ANTHONY: Rapidly.

VAN SUSTEREN: ... Aggressively.

CINDY ANTHONY: Right. It does. And if we don't keep track of it -- if I don't get rid of that today, I'll have other shoots coming into the rest of the yard.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you not have a shovel that she could have used?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, we do have a shovel she could have used. But if she was here and we weren't home -- George and I made a decision when we started locking the sheds this year because last year, Caylee wasn't able to do some of the things she can do this year. So we made a conscious effort to lock the sheds. We have three sheds.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 10:52:49 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Witness is explaining how chemicals unlock the cells allowing for dna analysis of the cellular material.. Jury appears very interested
1 minute ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 10:53:12 AM
Really how messy does he think duct taping a 2 year old would be?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 10:53:37 AM
What exactly is Beaz saying didn't have DNA on it?  The shovel? So would that mean we disbelieve the neighbor who testified that she borrowed it? 



There wouldn't be blood on the shovel unless her body was punctured in some way. If he wants to keep with the drowning deal I think this is what he is trying to do. I think he is still sticking with garbage in the trunk as the smell, decomp, etc. I don't think the jury will buy it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:54:50 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Pix of Cindy Anthony also listening to DNA testimony. #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/h45pekfj

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 16, 2011, 10:55:10 AM
Was listening to the shows of last night.
I never once thought of kc putting Caylee into the bag a live.
That's what was discussed last night.

IF kc did that, she's worst of the worst.  "IF"

 ::MonkeyMad::

I literally felt sick hearing that so I had to turn it off! How sad!  ::crymonkey2::


I know ,I felt sick too ,I just don't want to believe that..
If she starts coloring  in a coloring book in court I'll be sick..

I did too and it brought back memories of Jessica Lundsford ::MonkeyWaa:: and I lost it when I watched the prosecution show the re-enactment, I won't post details but if anyone wants to see it and how this case is similar if she were bagged alive, here is the link. I will say it was the most effective close I had ever seen, but gutwrenching........and the POS did get the DP  ::MonkeyHang::   I can't pull up the videos of this at work, but if you do you'll see why they were so effective.....if they decided to do this in Casey's trial I think it would guarantee the DP (but I would hope the Anthony's would leave the courtroom for this :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 10:55:27 AM
Id love to take that easel and tablet and shove it right up his stanky azz   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 10:56:10 AM
Bozo's drawing board looks like a child did it.  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:56:18 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Some say bogging down a jury w/ 2 much science backfires. In past I've seen that some jurors LOVE it. But some don't GET it.


ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Aaaaaand I'm now seeing 2 #caseyanthony jurors fidget.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
The FBI didn't find enough dna even from shovel owner Brian Burner to profile
1 minute ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:57:11 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
There goes juror 6 with a big yawn. This #CaseyAnthony testimony isn't always exciting.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 10:57:19 AM
For the amount of time that Casey handled the shovel, to walk back to her house, and back to the Burner's house, with shovel in hand, and who knows what else she used it for, there would have to be touch DNA on at least the handle.   She cleaned it for sure, imo.

If I remember correctly -if it was a wood handle, wood is not normally conducive for testing for DNA markers.

Baez does know that touch DNA is not always detectable, right?  I thought ICA and admitted to using the shovel.

This is painfully boring.  Baez is just not very bright, is he.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:57:49 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
#caseyanthony looks zoned out with the DNA expert testimony. Almost sleepy.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 10:57:53 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
There goes juror 6 with a big yawn. This #CaseyAnthony testimony isn't always exciting.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)
You'd think Baez would take this as a strong hint.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 10:57:57 AM
Really how messy does he think duct taping a 2 year old would be?   


She probably used the shovel after the triple bagging...ya think


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 10:57:59 AM
Can I have a shovel to whack Baez on his a$$!
 ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingbaez2::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 10:58:04 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.

I would be stressed too if my child did all the things that skank has tried to do to him.

On that note, I think it all may backfire. If I were with the State during closing argument, I would be sure to ask the jury if they were having difficulty believing that any Mother could murder her child and throw her away like garbage.

I would then ask them to again look at her buying videos with her boyfriend THAT night, and partying at Fusion, and to look at the tattoo and remember the pizza party, to remember her "concerns" in the jailhouse calls.......... and THEN I would ask them to consider what she did to her own family during this trial with this story of incest and criminal activity, and ask them to consider what she's capable of in light of those things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:58:38 AM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Baez trying to point out no blood and lack of DNA in trunk, other items..but there's still the odor, flies and fatty acids.

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 10:59:31 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez is asking about FBI protocol in reporting results when Ashton objects and they move into sidebar. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:00:07 AM
Turbo, thanks! I didn't know that about wood.

Another break.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:00:15 AM
 TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
A few jurors stretch during this sidebar. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:00:25 AM
OMFG  another "legal issue" recess


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 11:00:45 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
The FBI didn't find enough dna even from shovel owner Brian Burner to profile
1 minute ago
My husband wears gloves when he uses the shovel so he doesn't get blisters.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 11:00:48 AM
Turbo, thanks! I didn't know that about wood.

Another break.   ::MonkeyMad::

Omg....again..................... ::boxingjeffbaez:: ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:00:58 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Another pix of #JoseBaez at the board. #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/gzu35qtj

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 11:01:06 AM
For the amount of time that Casey handled the shovel, to walk back to her house, and back to the Burner's house, with shovel in hand, and who knows what else she used it for, there would have to be touch DNA on at least the handle.   She cleaned it for sure, imo.

If I remember correctly -if it was a wood handle, wood is not normally conducive for testing for DNA markers.

Baez does know that touch DNA is not always detectable, right?  I thought ICA and admitted to using the shovel.

This is painfully boring.  Baez is just not very bright, is he.

Anna...she did admit to using it on some bamboo roots...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 11:01:10 AM
OMFG  another "legal issue" recess

Jury asked to step outside.  Geeez........... now what?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:01:24 AM
Really how messy does he think duct taping a 2 year old would be?   


She probably used the shovel after the triple bagging...ya think
I have always thought she used it to help pry Caylee up to further bag her. Hence no dirt on the shovel blade.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 11:01:40 AM
Looking for DNA of George. Maybe the neighbor


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:01:56 AM
 JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
#LawyerGaga just snuck out of court. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:02:18 AM
So there was DNA from a woman but not enough to really analyze it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:02:46 AM
 ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Boring testimony & boring sidebars tday #caseyanthony . Jury around and up here to balcony. I feel for them.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Blonde on June 16, 2011, 11:02:51 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.

Thanks I'm packing for my trip


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 11:03:06 AM
Really how messy does he think duct taping a 2 year old would be?   


She probably used the shovel after the triple bagging...ya think
I have always thought she used it to help pry Caylee up to further bag her. Hence no dirt on the shovel blade.

That has always been my contention as well...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 11:03:17 AM
 ::snipping2::

On that note, I think it all may backfire. If I were with the State during closing argument, I would be sure to ask the jury if they were having difficulty believing that any Mother could murder her child and throw her away like garbage.

I would then ask them to again look at her buying videos with her boyfriend THAT night, and partying at Fusion, and to look at the tattoo and remember the pizza party, to remember her "concerns" in the jailhouse calls.......... and THEN I would ask them to consider what she did to her own family during this trial with this story of incest and criminal activity, and ask them to consider what she's capable of in light of those things.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 11:03:33 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.

I would be stressed too if my child did all the things that skank has tried to do to him.
I'm sure he is anticipating being called to testify and is hoping that he won't punch Bozo when he makes him come down to the easel thing.

And the big calendars..don't forget them..

I think George will do fine because I think Linda and Jeff have springs on the bottom of their shoes today..so they can bounce up quickly to object before Baez gets the nasty questions out to George.

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 11:03:59 AM
Why didn't they get the DNA from the neighbor? Gads. Maybe the neighbor used Goop or WD40 and cleans off all his tools!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
 ::boxingbaez2::   reaching & Id like to reach out  :smt079


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
Something to look at in between side bars.
Was Caylee put in trash bag alive? [CNN: 6-16-2011]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJbHH_A-jdI


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:05:01 AM
Rut roo ....chill Ashton, let him make an @$$ out of herself


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 16, 2011, 11:05:30 AM
asshattery.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:05:47 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
The jury started packing up their stuff before #judgeperry even began speaking. They recognize his cues.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:06:17 AM
anthonycase WOFL
Jurors 15,16,17 are whispering to each other, giggling about something while attorneys at sidebar. #caseyanthony #fox35

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)

Probably questioning the relevance of ANY of this line of questioning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 11:06:17 AM
Ambush time from Bozo. INMO the State is right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cadillac on June 16, 2011, 11:06:22 AM
the neighbor probably wiped the handle of the shovel after KC used it...just sayin...he didn't want her cooties.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:06:42 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Judge Perry tells Mr Ashton to calm down and then tells him to sit down. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 11:06:43 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.

George has known the defence strategy since February ... the defence strategy that implies he betrayal his daughter to ultimate when she was a child ... the defence strategy that implies he was involved in the cover up of an accidental drowning of his granddaughter.

Nevertheless ... George's wife blows an "I love you" as she passed Casey following her testimony the other day.

What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR GEORGE AND CINDY ANTHONY: No. The allegations today were just totally off the wall. We`ve expected this for about six weeks now, that they were going to come down this road. We`ve anticipated that they were going to come down this road, but certainly, to hear it said in court the way it was said and the additional facts that Jose was adding in there, or statements -- they weren`t even facts, it was all just fiction. His whole opening was fiction, and there`s nowhere to go with it.

<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road.  And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:07:00 AM
I am not getting this we want DNA on the shovel right? That is a good thing for the state I would think


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 11:07:16 AM
Rut roo ....chill Ashton, let him make an @$$ out of herself

Did you see Casey snicker and laugh when Judge told Jeff to calm down !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton wants to know relevance- #Baez says he just wants to report that DNA material was found #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 11:07:48 AM
Are Casey's ears becoming more pointed by the day?

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:08:04 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Seubert says the results from the shovel aren't conclusive enough to tell if it the results came from female v. male #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 11:09:24 AM
the neighbor probably wiped the handle of the shovel after KC used it...just sayin...he didn't want her cooties.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 11:09:32 AM
WTH? I'm not getting this at all.  Why does the defense want to introduce evidence that can't prove male or female and why does the prosecution care that the defense wants to do this?  :confusedmonkey:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:09:54 AM
Are Casey's ears becoming more pointed by the day?

 ::MonkeyShocked::
It sure seems that way
The jury are becoming Pop Tarts..... I see alot more pop tarting to come


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Blonde on June 16, 2011, 11:10:17 AM
Something to look at in between side bars.
Was Caylee put in trash bag alive? [CNN: 6-16-2011]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJbHH_A-jdI
I hope Not  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
Are Casey's ears becoming more pointed by the day?

 ::MonkeyShocked::
She's starting to look like Mr. Spock--she can now say aliens took Caylee!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
The results aren't good enough to say male or female. State didn't want jury to hear something not scientifically correct.

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:10:31 AM
WTH? I'm not getting this at all.  Why does the defense want to introduce evidence that can't prove male or female and why does the prosecution care that the defense wants to do this?  :confusedmonkey:

IDk but I am confused to me that would mean something was there and wiped clean


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:10:51 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez is asking about FBI protocol in reporting results when Ashton objects and they move into sidebar. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

Didn't he have some so called "expert" in touch DNA from out of the country he wanted the state to pay for to testify?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 11:11:05 AM
I think Baez just wants to introduce this because it's so freaking confusing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 11:11:13 AM
Are Casey's ears becoming more pointed by the day?

 ::MonkeyShocked::
It sure seems that way
The jury are becoming Pop Tarts..... I see alot more pop tarting to come

Maybe the truth is that she is a Vulcan!  Run Spock Run!!   ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 11:11:49 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez is asking about FBI protocol in reporting results when Ashton objects and they move into sidebar. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

Didn't he have some so called "expert" in touch DNA from out of the country he wanted the state to pay for to testify?
I believe that was the Eikelenblooms from Holland.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 11:12:02 AM
Is Baez implying the FBI is not good enough for his client?

Aren't they the national standard?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 11:12:30 AM
WTH? I'm not getting this at all.  Why does the defense want to introduce evidence that can't prove male or female and why does the prosecution care that the defense wants to do this?  :confusedmonkey:

So that they can say, during closing, that there was evidence that could have led to the Kronk or George that was never amplified or pursued because LE only had eyes for Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TvPolice on June 16, 2011, 11:13:06 AM
lack of DNA shows she wore gloves


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 16, 2011, 11:14:06 AM
10:10am Thursday, June 16, 2011 Court is in session.

Back from special break.

The defense witness Heather Seubert is back on the witness stand. She is an expert witness from the FBI.

Baez is up....

Looking at two items, swabs from spare tire cover, collected from the Pontiac Sun Fire.  Mr Ashton is telling Baez how to introduce evidence, lol.  What is the first thing you did with these two swab items.  We examined them in the lab, a chemical test was done of that swab, performed by a biologist.  It is a test for the positive test for blood, each of those swabs were negative for blood.  Next item is a piece of spare tire cover, negative for blood.  That item was a spare tire cover, that item had brown and yellowish stains, they were tested and negative for blood.  The next item was a left side of trunk liner, it had brown and yellow stains, they tested negative for blood.  Next item is the right side of the trunk liner.  It had brown and yellow stains and they tested negative for blood.  What did you do with the swabs after they were tested for blood?  They are not kept by the lab.  Did you do any other tests on those items?  Yes on those items we also swabbed and tested for DNA typing.  The results were no DNA found.  Why did you do the DNA test?  We were looking for any other biological material that was not blood.  What can you get DNA from in a persons body?  Any cell of a human body besides one type of blood cells.  Next items are clothing items. First item was dark grey pants.  No chemical testing performed.  Next item was a blue pair of pants, had a stain that tested negative for blood.  Next item is a pair of jeans, no stains were observed.  Next  item is a light grey skirt, had stains, tested negative for blood.  Next  item was a yellow skirt, had stains that were negative for blood.  Next item was light yellow skirt, had stains, tested negative for blood.  Next item was a light blue shirt, had stains, tested negative for blood.  Next was a shirt, had stains, tested next for blood.  Next item was a bright pink shirt, had no stains.  Next item was a light pink shirt, had no stains. Next item was a green shirt, had no stains.  There was no blood on any of the clothing items received.  Next item is piece of the spare tire cover, tested for blood, negative.  Next item is a piece of the spare tire cover and tested negative blood.  Both of those items were tested next for DNA, both tested negative.  Talking about a report of Oct 9, 2008.  Next item is shovel and a label from the shovel blade.  They were examined for the presence of blood, they were negative, no DNA was found. Some touch DNA was found but it was not usable.  Talking about levels of DNA...objection...side bar....sidebar is over 10:40

Baez is up.......

Talking about touch DNA.  Baez is using his big pad.  What is Low Copy Number?  It is a type of DNA process but we know that there is going to be a limited number of DNA there, so you make more copies of the DNA to enhance the DNA profile.  With that result you have to figure in the Low Copy Number to have a reliable result.  Touch DNA is different from Low Copy Number.  You don't enhance Touch DNA, you only do that with Low Copy Number.  Telling the jury the whole DNA process.  To find a DNA type they need 200 RFU's.  Other labs and other kits can report lower levels, right?  Yes.  What is the threshold to exclude a person?  The 200 RFU's.  There is also a threshold at 50 RFU's at a peak. Other labs may use a threshold for a peak that is lower.  Is the FBI Lab Number conservative?  Yes.  The shovel had DNA but it was lower than the standards of the FBI lab.  Objection.....sidebar....sidebar is over 11:00am.

Brief legal matter outside the presence of the jury. 

Baez is proffering.  What is the peak RFU that was found on the shovel?  There was an X for the female at 55 RFU's.  Ashton asks if it can exclude a man?  She cannot draw any conclusion can be drawn.  Ashton wants the jury to be told of this.  Baez says he wants the fact known that there was an artifact.  Ashton wants to know what the relevance of that is.  Baez says that there is something there.  We are discussing DNA material past the 50 RFU threshold.  He wants the witness to say there was a portion of DNA there and nothing more?  Ashton says for what point?  It has no scientific point.  Baez says if the shovel is not relevant why is it in evidence.  Jeff gets up and the judge tells him to calm down.  Jeff says that this is scientifically meaningless.  The judge says he can ask about that in the State's cross.  The judge is asking the witness what those results mean, is it DNA?  It is a peak above 50 RFU, she has no other information.  It could be from a female it could be from a male.  There is no conclusion.  The judge says you can draw no conclusions from it?  No sir.  The judge says he will permit the question and the state can clear it up and the jury can take it for what it's worth.

Returning the jury.

Baez is up, witness is till on the stand.

We talked about how much DNA is present on the shovel.  You mentioned that at one of the markers you saw something at the  50 RFU point?  Yes.  What is the best way to summarize what is there and what is not there?  No result was there for DNA, at the sex point there was 55 RFU but it was not enough to report about.  It was inconclusive to which sex.  Jeff asks for a side bar.......11:10am




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 11:14:41 AM
lack of DNA shows she wore gloves

You took the words right out of my mouth.. Well fingers I guess.  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:14:45 AM
I think Baez just wants to introduce this because it's so freaking confusing.
Not to worry....the State will make it all crystal clear!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 11:14:56 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez is asking about FBI protocol in reporting results when Ashton objects and they move into sidebar. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

Didn't he have some so called "expert" in touch DNA from out of the country he wanted the state to pay for to testify?
I believe that was the Eikelenblooms from Holland.


Aren't they even more unique than Dr. Vass?  And trying to perfect their own methods just as he is?  And didn't Baez object to untested and new methods from Bass and yet wants them from this couple working out of their farm house?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
WTH? I'm not getting this at all.  Why does the defense want to introduce evidence that can't prove male or female and why does the prosecution care that the defense wants to do this?  :confusedmonkey:

So that they can say, during closing, that there was evidence that could have led to the Kronk or George that was never amplified or pursued because LE only had eyes for Casey.
This makes sense.  But it may backfire because I thought she said she there was an X, meaning it probably was a woman.  But in the defense's mind, it would work,,,in a backwards kind of way... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:15:48 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.

George has known the defence strategy since February ... the defence strategy that implies he betrayal his daughter to ultimate when she was a child ... the defence strategy that implies he was involved in the cover up of an accidental drowning of his granddaughter.

Nevertheless ... George's wife blows an "I love you" as she passed Casey following her testimony the other day.

What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR GEORGE AND CINDY ANTHONY: No. The allegations today were just totally off the wall. We`ve expected this for about six weeks now, that they were going to come down this road. We`ve anticipated that they were going to come down this road, but certainly, to hear it said in court the way it was said and the additional facts that Jose was adding in there, or statements -- they weren`t even facts, it was all just fiction. His whole opening was fiction, and there`s nowhere to go with it.

<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road.  And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html


This is referring to the defense strategy that it was an accidental drowning & then George allegedly moved the body.  Im not Cindy but I would take it to mean that while she may realize her daughter murdered her grandchild & is a monster, Casey is still her flesh & blood & loves her on that maternal level...we dont have to agree, it is what it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:16:06 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez is asking about FBI protocol in reporting results when Ashton objects and they move into sidebar. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

Didn't he have some so called "expert" in touch DNA from out of the country he wanted the state to pay for to testify?
Yes.  That was the Richard and Selma Eikelenboom of Amsterdam.  Bobo was questioned by KB if the state was paying to fly them there during some depos and he said they were there on their own dime as they were setting up a lab in the US, the state would not be paying them and he would not be asking the state to pay for them.  He then filed a JAC request a few months after that to pay for their expenses and flight.  I have the video of Bobo getting all pizzed at KB about how they are paying their own way when he filed the JAC money requested to pay for them on a previous thread.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 11:16:36 AM
lack of DNA shows she wore gloves

You took the words right out of my mouth.. Well fingers I guess.  LOL

Well, if she had enough sense to wear gloves that requires pre-meditation....no?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 11:18:02 AM


I have to head to work... bet Bozo is still talking to this witness about the same thing by the time I get there.  Be back soon...

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


I'm back and OMG... Bozo IS still talking to her!!     ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 11:18:12 AM
George is VERY stressed today

Lippman did say yesterday that George was very upset over this latest stunt the defense wanted to pull...he knows the defense & his slore daughter put a bullseye on his forehead.

George has known the defence strategy since February ... the defence strategy that implies he betrayal his daughter to ultimate when she was a child ... the defence strategy that implies he was involved in the cover up of an accidental drowning of his granddaughter.

Nevertheless ... George's wife blows an "I love you" as she passed Casey following her testimony the other day.

What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

++++++


NANCY GRACE
Aired May 24, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR GEORGE AND CINDY ANTHONY: No. The allegations today were just totally off the wall. We`ve expected this for about six weeks now, that they were going to come down this road. We`ve anticipated that they were going to come down this road, but certainly, to hear it said in court the way it was said and the additional facts that Jose was adding in there, or statements -- they weren`t even facts, it was all just fiction. His whole opening was fiction, and there`s nowhere to go with it.

<snipped>

MARK LIPPMAN, ATTORNEY FOR THE ANTHONY FAMILY: Nancy, this whole theory started, as far as we`re concerned, probably back in February where they started creating this, when the psych evals came out. And from there we`ve known approximately about six weeks ago that the defense was going to go down this road.  And that came directly from Jose`s mouth where we found out about six weeks ago how Caylee, according to them, passed.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/24/ng.01.html


Hi Janet,

This whole situation is so absurd and out of the ordinary, I don't think we can use ordinary thinking nor emotions when viewing the family and their reactions.

I think that once the A's accepted Casey had murdered Caylee and was going to try to bury the family with the accusations against George and Lee..she also came to the conclusion the only way Casey could be doing all this was if she was mentally ill.

Like it or not..Casey is still her daughter and I think that Cindy is trying very hard to appear as if she has unconditional love for Casey..as she did for Caylee.  However, I think she is as torn as ever in her own feelings for her daughter..and rightly so..I can't imagine all the feelings just sitting in the same room with Casey must evoke for her..from love to hate and everything inbetween..and not being able to express those verbally.  Part of me would need to be tyed down so I didn't smack the carp out of her..the other would want to tell her I see your sickness and know you need help.  But were way beyond all that now.

I am sure in their darkest hours the A's blame thenselves that they didn't handle this differently..but that is the past..the guilty party is Casey and she is the party the needs to pay.  The defense should have founda shrink to declare her legally insane 2.5 years ago..people could comprehend and believe that..this circus the jury is viewing they can't .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Sdb on June 16, 2011, 11:18:37 AM
Can the State of Florida bill JB for this "on the job training"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:18:47 AM
lack of DNA shows she wore gloves

You took the words right out of my mouth.. Well fingers I guess.  LOL

Well, if she had enough sense to wear gloves that requires pre-meditation....no?

Yes, among other indications of premeditation. 


OMG, no Bozo the jury cannot raise their hand if they are confused....make sense or STFU  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:19:09 AM
lack of DNA shows she wore gloves

Or it was in the woods so long it deteriated. He is doing this to bring in the touch DNA "expert."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:19:11 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Baez keeps addressing jury in a way to ingratiate himself.. I suspect state objected to it

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:19:37 AM
So there was DNA probably female on the shovel and DNA on the duct tape probably female. But just not enough to give a conclusive result.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Mtnmom on June 16, 2011, 11:19:50 AM
bozo just alienated his witness   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:20:15 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
I get it now. Defense will emphasize DNA on the shovel, but no DNA on the tape. I'm slow on the uptake today. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: mizjay on June 16, 2011, 11:20:30 AM
OH MY GOD.....He is the worst lawyer ever.    ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 11:20:57 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/bigtape.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:20:58 AM
I may have to change my opinion on how long it will take the defense to present it's case.....WEEKS!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:21:03 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez asks if jurors can raise their hands if they don't understand. Judge Perry says no. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 16, 2011, 11:21:19 AM
lack of DNA shows she wore gloves

You took the words right out of my mouth.. Well fingers I guess.  LOL

Well, if she had enough sense to wear gloves that requires pre-meditation....no?

Yes it does..as do the computer searches and then the secreting of the body....premeditation and knowing what she did was wrong..therefore it was all hidden.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Red on June 16, 2011, 11:21:25 AM
Did I just hear correctly in that Baez just asked the Judge whether the jurors could raise their hands to see if they are confused by the DNA testimony?

ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!??? What a clown.

Why don'r we just ask the jury Jose right now whether they think your client Casey is guilty or not? UNREAL. the Law School where Baez went to school must be so proud right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:21:48 AM
lack of DNA shows she wore gloves

Or it was in the woods so long it deteriated. He is doing this to bring in the touch DNA "expert."

He has one testifying right now....it doubtful the jury will be persuaded by some defense hired hand to dispute what she is testifying to right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 16, 2011, 11:21:59 AM
Yep - I'm convinced it was accidental drowning by what the defense has shown so far.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:22:19 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Here comes another dna lesson ..but at the easel this time #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Medical background or not... he lost my interest .... I am suffering ftom head-bobitis


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:23:17 AM
WHAT A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME...............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:23:21 AM
Did I just hear correctly in that Baez just asked the Judge whether the jurors could raise their hands to see if they are confused by the DNA testimony?

ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!??? What a clown.

Why don'r we just ask the jury Jose right now whether they think your client Casey is guilty or not? UNREAL. the Law School where Baez went to school must be so proud right now.

IIRC he teaches somewhere, go figure  ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Sdb on June 16, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
I get it now. Defense will emphasize DNA on the shovel, but no DNA on the tape. I'm slow on the uptake today. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)

Well the shovel didn't spend six months in a swamp. Geesh, this is painful. Baez is straining to make himself look intelligent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 11:23:30 AM
OMG! I'm pretty sure the jury doesn't CARE about the NAMES of the locations... They just want to know, was or wasn't there DNA, and could you determine who it was from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Girlzrock on June 16, 2011, 11:23:33 AM
Good grief... Couldn't she just have brought a chart?  Everything seems so 'on the fly' with the defense team...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:23:45 AM
Did I just hear correctly in that Baez just asked the Judge whether the jurors could raise their hands to see if they are confused by the DNA testimony?

ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!??? What a clown.

Why don'r we just ask the jury Jose right now whether they think your client Casey is guilty or not? UNREAL. the Law School where Baez went to school must be so proud right now.
I am raising my hand... Please make it stop  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:25:16 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/InSession (http://twitter.com/#!/InSession)

InSession In Session
None of the jurors are taking any notes as the witness goes through the chart she has drawn. #CaseyAnthony
38 seconds ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:26:29 AM
anthonycase WOFL
@ @stevehelling good observation. shovel wasn't out in the elements for 6 months, duct tape was.

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 11:26:38 AM
Did I just hear correctly in that Baez just asked the Judge whether the jurors could raise their hands to see if they are confused by the DNA testimony?

ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!??? What a clown.

Why don'r we just ask the jury Jose right now whether they think your client Casey is guilty or not? UNREAL. the Law School where Baez went to school must be so proud right now.


Is this Baez's first jury trial?


 ::MonkeyShocked::

I took his request to mean he wanted to know how much longer he needed to proceed with this nonsense until ALL the jury was confused.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 11:26:56 AM
All this to say she can't report it? Grr....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: NewfieMonkey on June 16, 2011, 11:27:18 AM
OMG!!!!!  Is this his first witness? 

I'm ready to puncture my eardrums and I've only been here for a half hour! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:27:43 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seuber: Sticky side of duct tape had minute traces of DNA below the FBI threshold. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
It only takes one marker to exclude someone....both Casey and Caylee were excluded.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: MOMDET on June 16, 2011, 11:28:16 AM
I am confused also.  The other night on Nancy, she had an expert state that the FL heat destroys DNA, and that is why none was found.  Has other monkey heard this?  If that is the case, surely the STATE will get up and ask that question?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 16, 2011, 11:28:27 AM
WHAT A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME...............

B 29.... I think I got it!!!!! Will Judge Perry let me shout out   

  B   I  N   G   O 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:28:41 AM
All this for the FBI agent fingerprint?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:28:49 AM
It only takes one marker to exclude someone....both Casey and Caylee were excluded.

ALL the Anthonys were excluded from this item


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TvPolice on June 16, 2011, 11:28:58 AM
it was a lab worker or a field persons DNA on the tape   right


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
OMG I can tell you the jurors are at a loss to all this super scientific testimony! I am sure Bozo is at a loss and has no idea where he is going with this! What a fool he is making of himself!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:29:20 AM
All this for the FBI agent fingerprint?

Incompetency argument....it happens no biggie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:29:21 AM
 OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: Yes she can exclude #CaseyAnthony, Caylee from duct tape.

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 11:29:21 AM
I think JP is going to be pretty upset with the pace JB is going considering he wanted an organized, quick trial... This is soooo unnecessary!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 11:29:52 AM
Someone at the tape factory?  Someone who sold the tape at a store?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:29:59 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Jury Foreman Prediction: juror # 14. Always in a sport jackt, always speaks up when judge addresses jury & makes decisions #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 16, 2011, 11:30:12 AM
Is he getting to Caylee's DNA to say that she had a 'double chromosome?  Or is this just to show that the FBI messed up?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:30:22 AM
It only takes one marker to exclude someone....both Casey and Caylee were excluded.

So Caylee is was not dead with duct tape on her? Kind of excludes George there bozo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cadillac on June 16, 2011, 11:30:49 AM
Is he playing school?  I am the teacher, this is the blackboard, the FBI is doing a show and tell, now raise your hands children if you are confused?

Jeez louise...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 16, 2011, 11:31:02 AM
WHAT A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME...............

It's going to be that way with everyone and everything - I hope the jurors are insulted in the end at the way Baez is inferring that they're too stupid to understand; i.e., judge, can the jurors raise their hands if the don't understand (remembering Cindy holding up her hand during an early hearing).

This is ALL going to be about totally confusing the jurors so they don't know which way to think.

We'll have to rely on Jeff and Linda to straighten things out - which, I think they will do a good job of it.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:31:12 AM
All this for the FBI agent fingerprint?

Incompetency argument....it happens no biggie

1 hour and some minutes for this? Like you couldn't have just said it without the lesson?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 11:31:21 AM
Contamintated! darn


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 11:31:40 AM
Aha, tainted evidence is the game.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:32:42 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense got witness to testify dna "markers" excluded Casey, Caylee, George, Cindy and Lee then tested for contamination
1 minute ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:33:34 AM
If I was on the jury I would be wondering how FTLOG does this show that Caylee drown and ICA was molested by her father and brother? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:34:00 AM
There was no DNA dumbass it sat in the water and woods for 6 months!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:34:14 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Juror # 11 yawns and stretched his hands behind his head in #caseyanthony .

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2011, 11:34:38 AM
I am pretty good with this DNA stuff, but I am so confused that I want to puke.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:34:43 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense is asking whether the contamination was that of an FBI analyst.. She said yes, Lorie Gottesman

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:35:17 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Pix of Seubert with #JoseBaez at the board #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/kka2dhj

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2011, 11:36:26 AM
I think he will keep her on the stand to as close to noon as possible so the State will not have the chance to cross until after lunch, further confusing the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:36:49 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Seubert says it's possible contamination could have covered up any other DNA. But it would have to a lot of DNA covering up a tiny sample

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:36:51 AM
Jury is saying to themselves...


Where is the bombshell?
Why all this if the defense has asserted that it is an accidental drowning?
Where is there any evidence linking George Anthony?
If it was an accidental drowning wouldnt one expect to have Casey & George's DNA present?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 16, 2011, 11:37:02 AM
I am pretty good with this DNA stuff, but I am so confused that I want to puke.

Bozo does make you dizzy the way he goes in circles.

 ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingjeffbaez::  C'mon Jeff.  Can't wait till he clears this up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 16, 2011, 11:37:23 AM
Today's testimony brought to you by....

A M B I E  N


Sometimes you just need a full day's sleep.

 ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Shouldn't she be insulted because JB is basically saying the FBI, where SHE works, can't do their job right???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
myfoxorlando myfoxorlando
This DNA testimony in #CaseyAnthony case is getting really complicated. Wonder what jurors are thinking. #Fox35

http://twitter.com/#!/myfoxorlando (http://twitter.com/#!/myfoxorlando)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:38:14 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
About 4 or 5 jurors taking notes. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: terryd270 on June 16, 2011, 11:38:37 AM
Is Jose for real?  How is this showing she accidentally drowned?  I think he will keep this going as long as he can..  I would hope their is a time limit but I don't think so.. I hope the judge and the state and the jurors are in good health. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:39:03 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Asked whether Gottesman's dna could have contaminated whatever other dna might have been there.. She said she would have seen a combination
2 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:39:06 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Sunlight, humidity could destroy dna

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2011, 11:39:12 AM
Is this woman a willing participant witness for the duhfense or was she subpoenaed.?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:39:46 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Asked whether Gottesman's dna could have contaminated whatever other dna might have been there.. She said she would have seen a combination

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:40:35 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Now #caseyanthony DNA expert says many people handled duct tape evidence & elements degrade it & water submersion can be an issue too.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 11:41:07 AM
It only takes one marker to exclude someone....both Casey and Caylee were excluded.


I swear KC's face turned red after witness excluded her.  Like she was flushed... kind of like "whew... thank goodness I wore gloves and cleaned up real good"  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 11:41:16 AM
Didn't the other CSI woman say the sticky part of the tape had migrated to one end? How would you get DNA from that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 11:41:33 AM

Hi Janet,

This whole situation is so absurd and out of the ordinary, I don't think we can use ordinary thinking nor emotions when viewing the family and their reactions.

I think that once the A's accepted Casey had murdered Caylee and was going to try to bury the family with the accusations against George and Lee..she also came to the conclusion the only way Casey could be doing all this was if she was mentally ill.

Like it or not..Casey is still her daughter and I think that Cindy is trying very hard to appear as if she has unconditional love for Casey..as she did for Caylee.  However, I think she is as torn as ever in her own feelings for her daughter..and rightly so..I can't imagine all the feelings just sitting in the same room with Casey must evoke for her..from love to hate and everything inbetween..and not being able to express those verbally.  Part of me would need to be tyed down so I didn't smack the carp out of her..the other would want to tell her I see your sickness and know you need help.  But were way beyond all that now.

I am sure in their darkest hours the A's blame thenselves that they didn't handle this differently..but that is the past..the guilty party is Casey and she is the party the needs to pay.  The defense should have founda shrink to declare her legally insane 2.5 years ago..people could comprehend and believe that..this circus the jury is viewing they can't .


Gypsy

If Cindy and George had spent the past three years on a mission to have their daughter declared legally insane rather than distancing Casey from implication regarding happenings encompassing the demise of their granddaughter ... I would have been in their corner.  I would be embracing them with compassion.

Janet 







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
Did Casey just tell Mason to go up there with him  speaking about Bozo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:42:15 AM
I hope Mr. Ashton's passion won't backfire on  him.  He really seems quite edgy today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
Today's testimony brought to you by....

A M B I E  N


Sometimes you just need a full day's sleep.

 ::boxingbaez2::
He is just soooo..... inadequate


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:43:00 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Some of the jurors smile after Ashton asked to approach and started walking toward judge's bench. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:43:40 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Jury Foreman Prediction: juror # 14. Always in a sport jackt, always speaks up when judge addresses jury & makes decisions #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)

I have these but not 14 - does anyone have 14?

Here's a closer look at the jurors:

Juror 1: THE NURSE
The married white woman, 65, has two grown children. A retired nurse and volunteer counselor, she pays close attention to the proceedings. She also supports the death penalty. "I value life," she said during jury selection, "but I also value the criminal justice system."

Juror 2: THE FAMILY MAN
During jury selection, this thirtysomething, married African-American man told attorneys that his mom was a single mother "like Casey." An IT worker, he has a 9-year-old daughter and a 4-year-old son. Although he opposes the death penalty, he says he had some doubts of Anthony's innocence. "My impression was that, yes, I thought she did it," he said last month. "But if I had to return a verdict right now, I would say not guilty."

Juror 3: THE STUDENT
A 32-year-old single white woman, she is working on her nursing degree. She often sits motionlessly and watches the trial with wide eyes. Soft-spoken and demure, she admits she knew little about the case before being selected for the jury. "I could be fair," she told attorneys. "I can't think of any reason why I wouldn't be."

Juror 4: THE CHURCH LADY
The never-married African-American woman is in her late 40s and lives alone. Deeply religious, she did not want to be selected, saying, "I don't like to judge people." Anthony's defense fought to keep her on the jury, where she shook her head as she heard about Anthony's repeated lies.

Juror 5: THE MOTHER
With long gray hair and glasses, the retired nurse's aide, 57, often has a frown on her face as she watches the trial. A mother of three children, she has an 11th-grade education and is the only juror with a criminal record: a DUI arrest from 1998. When asked whether she could vote for the death penalty, she was ambivalent. "I guess I believe in the death penalty," she said. "I'd have to know a lot of facts before I really considered it."

Juror 6: THE SALESMAN
The 33-year-old married white man has two children, ages 6 and 22 months. He has a business degree and sells restaurant equipment. Throughout the proceedings, he has had trouble staying awake during the dry scientific testimony.

Juror 7: THE SECRETARY
The 41-year-old divorced secretary has always been around the law. Her father was an attorney, and she now works in juvenile justice welfare. During jury selection, she explained that she could give the death penalty if necessary. "It would be, gosh, a solemn decision," she said nervously, "but it is an option under the law."


Juror 8: THE POLICEMAN'S DAUGHTER
The defense was worried about this married customer service rep, 55, who has two sons approximately Casey Anthony's age. Her father was a police officer, and she has no problem with the death penalty. "If I know all the facts," she said, "I have no problem voting for the death penalty."

Juror 9: THE HANDYMAN
At 53, this single former logger sits close to the witnesses; he never takes his eyes off the courtroom proceedings. A native of Indiana, the thin, balding man does odd jobs to supplement his income as a caregiver for a stroke patient. "I don't think we've heard the whole story," he told the court. "I hold no bias."

Juror 10: THE BACHELOR
Tall and broad-shouldered, the 57-year-old has never been married and has no children. He works for a mobile phone company and spends a lot of time reading. When asked about the case, he admitted, "I don't know any details, but I believe everyone is innocent until proven guilty."

Juror 11: THE GYM TEACHER
The 33-year-old single white man works as a high school gym teacher. Tall and handsome, he has gotten the nickname of "Johnny Depp" from some of the courthouse staff. He often leans forward during the shocking testimony. "Everyone I work with think she's guilty," he said in jury selection," but I can keep my mind open."

Juror 12: THE COOK
The sixty-ish white woman has two children and one young grandchild. Working part time as a cook at a Publix supermarket, she often looks to the female prosecutor for reaction from the testimony. A fan of legal dramas, she says, "I have no problem deciding on the death penalty."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:44:08 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
by MarthaSugalski
#CaseyAnthony Breaking news, Anthony's attorney says Vasco Thompson will confirm NO contacts w/George.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 11:44:24 AM
If/when Bozo finishes with this witness this week, would someone notify me by snail mail?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 16, 2011, 11:44:31 AM
He's so boring he bored himself! He forgot where he was. (court reporter reads back)

Jose Baez, it's official, you're the worst lawyer ever accepted by the FL State Bar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 11:44:42 AM
I think JP is going to be pretty upset with the pace JB is going considering he wanted an organized, quick trial... This is soooo unnecessary!

Agreed! And I can't believe how much a of a disservice Bozo is doing to poor Caylee on the anniversary of her unnecessary demise!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:44:46 AM
I thought juror 14 was a alternate?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
 ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingbaez2::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcsmug.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 11:45:10 AM
Today's testimony brought to you by....

A M B I E  N


Sometimes you just need a full day's sleep.

 ::boxingbaez2::
::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:45:23 AM

Hi Janet,

This whole situation is so absurd and out of the ordinary, I don't think we can use ordinary thinking nor emotions when viewing the family and their reactions.

I think that once the A's accepted Casey had murdered Caylee and was going to try to bury the family with the accusations against George and Lee..she also came to the conclusion the only way Casey could be doing all this was if she was mentally ill.

Like it or not..Casey is still her daughter and I think that Cindy is trying very hard to appear as if she has unconditional love for Casey..as she did for Caylee.  However, I think she is as torn as ever in her own feelings for her daughter..and rightly so..I can't imagine all the feelings just sitting in the same room with Casey must evoke for her..from love to hate and everything inbetween..and not being able to express those verbally.  Part of me would need to be tyed down so I didn't smack the carp out of her..the other would want to tell her I see your sickness and know you need help.  But were way beyond all that now.

I am sure in their darkest hours the A's blame thenselves that they didn't handle this differently..but that is the past..the guilty party is Casey and she is the party the needs to pay.  The defense should have founda shrink to declare her legally insane 2.5 years ago..people could comprehend and believe that..this circus the jury is viewing they can't .


Gypsy

If Cindy and George had spent the past three years on a mission to have their daughter declared legally insane rather than distancing Casey from implication regarding happenings encompassing the demise of their granddaughter ... I would have been in their corner.  I would be embracing them with compassion.

Janet 



Janet, Cindy & George could not have effected their daughter getting declared legally insane even if that is what they desired.   Fact is, she has not been declared legally insane by medical professionals nor would it have ever occurred by any other medical professional.   Casey is NOT legally insane by any stretch of the imagination nor legal definition of the term.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:45:42 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
by MarthaSugalski
#CaseyAnthony Breaking news, Anthony's attorney says Vasco Thompson will confirm NO contacts w/George.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)

And there ya go!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:45:44 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Now #caseyanthony DNA expert says many people handled duct tape evidence & elements degrade it & water submersion can be an issue too.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Mary on June 16, 2011, 11:46:01 AM
What is his point, to pi$$ everyone off. Bozo got her to come for this, and the tax payers
had to pay air fare. I just hope Ashton can hold his temper.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 11:46:21 AM
If/when Bozo finishes with this witness this week, would someone notify me by snail mail?

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/emoticons/410b813c.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:46:27 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: Sticky side of tape results inconclusive. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:46:29 AM
I thought juror 14 was a alternate?
Juror # Sex Occupation Marital Status Children
1 3093 F Surgical technician Married 2
2 3170 M High school U.S. government teacher Married 3× 3*   14
3 4013 F Cashier at car dealership Widow 1
4 4192 M Carpenter Single 0
5 3308 M Water plant operator Married 0
These are the alternates


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cadillac on June 16, 2011, 11:46:29 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
About 4 or 5 jurors taking notes. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)
Maybe they are coloring. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Wyks on June 16, 2011, 11:46:41 AM
Baez really should have been a prosecutor.  He is better for that side than a defense atty. 

 ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Girlzrock on June 16, 2011, 11:46:44 AM
I hope Mr. Ashton's passion won't backfire on  him.  He really seems quite edgy today.

I know... he probably should have attended a seminar for how to abide fools.  I would feel much the same, but it doesn't help him in court, I fear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:46:49 AM
We already know it was not there DNA!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 11:46:57 AM

Hi Janet,

This whole situation is so absurd and out of the ordinary, I don't think we can use ordinary thinking nor emotions when viewing the family and their reactions.

I think that once the A's accepted Casey had murdered Caylee and was going to try to bury the family with the accusations against George and Lee..she also came to the conclusion the only way Casey could be doing all this was if she was mentally ill.

Like it or not..Casey is still her daughter and I think that Cindy is trying very hard to appear as if she has unconditional love for Casey..as she did for Caylee.  However, I think she is as torn as ever in her own feelings for her daughter..and rightly so..I can't imagine all the feelings just sitting in the same room with Casey must evoke for her..from love to hate and everything inbetween..and not being able to express those verbally.  Part of me would need to be tyed down so I didn't smack the carp out of her..the other would want to tell her I see your sickness and know you need help.  But were way beyond all that now.

I am sure in their darkest hours the A's blame thenselves that they didn't handle this differently..but that is the past..the guilty party is Casey and she is the party the needs to pay.  The defense should have founda shrink to declare her legally insane 2.5 years ago..people could comprehend and believe that..this circus the jury is viewing they can't .


Gypsy

If Cindy and George had spent the past three years on a mission to have their daughter declared legally insane rather than distancing Casey from implication regarding happenings encompassing the demise of their granddaughter ... I would have been in their corner.  I would be embracing them with compassion.

Janet 









I have to say, I agree with you, Janet. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:47:06 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
by MarthaSugalski
#CaseyAnthony Breaking news, Anthony's attorney says Vasco Thompson will confirm NO contacts w/George.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)

I would hope the defense could receive a sanction for this ambush attempt with NO BASIS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:47:10 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
#JoseBaez asks if duct tape was put on "in a violent matter" would have skin tissue on it. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:47:51 AM
I thought juror 14 was a alternate?
Juror # Sex Occupation Marital Status Children
1 3093 F Surgical technician Married 2
2 3170 M High school U.S. government teacher Married 3× 3*   14
3 4013 F Cashier at car dealership Widow 1
4 4192 M Carpenter Single 0
5 3308 M Water plant operator Married 0
These are the alternates

Oh thank you

I thought they were numbered in order after 12 were alternates


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: scrappysniffer on June 16, 2011, 11:48:05 AM
Is there any court law/rule that the Judge can use to prevent the defense from dragging any questioning out, as JB is doing, just to confuse the jury and waste time?



Oh..good morning and good afternoon to everyone where ever you live!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:48:08 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
by MarthaSugalski
#CaseyAnthony Anthony's attorney Mark Lippman: Anthony defense "won't need that depo" they requested of Thompson.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 11:48:53 AM
So how does all this crapola prove that Caylee died in the pool and GA and Kronk hid her body?   I'm going to take my granddaughter to see Kung Fu Panda 2 when they break for lunch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:49:03 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
So.. I spaced out.. Unless 2 #caseyanthony jurors drop out.. Juror 14 may not get the chance 2B foreman. Thanks @bryanlavietes !

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:49:05 AM
We already know it was not there DNA!!!!!!!!!!!!


their


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 11:49:26 AM
He's so boring he bored himself! He forgot where he was. (court reporter reads back)

Jose Baez, it's official, you're the worst lawyer ever accepted by the FL State Bar.


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm bored too... WTH are the jurors thinking right now?  If they are even awake.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:49:34 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
by MarthaSugalski
#CaseyAnthony Anthony's attorney Mark Lippman: Anthony defense "won't need that depo" they requested of Thompson.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)

Because they got called out on their ambush before it could even get off the ground...@$$hats!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:49:40 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
So.. I spaced out.. Unless 2 #caseyanthony jurors drop out.. Juror 14 may not get the chance 2B foreman. Thanks @bryanlavietes !

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)

Oh that is what I thought to


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:49:44 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: Excluded Caylee, #CaseyAnthony from sticky side of duct tape. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2011, 11:50:01 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
by MarthaSugalski
#CaseyAnthony Breaking news, Anthony's attorney says Vasco Thompson will confirm NO contacts w/George.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)

I would hope the defense could receive a sanction for this ambush attempt with NO BASIS

Great post CAP  :smt038


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TvPolice on June 16, 2011, 11:50:04 AM
some one wake me up when this bs is over


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:50:12 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
#JoseBaez asks if duct tape was put on "in a violent matter" would have skin tissue on it. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)

DNA deteriorates rapidly with HEAT or SUNLIGHT. This is stupid the little body was outside for over 6 months.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 11:50:14 AM
Now on to her NEXT report.... (http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/crazy.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: alagary on June 16, 2011, 11:50:16 AM
After this truly amazing exhibition of lawyer stuff the defense will rest.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:50:42 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
The lawyer for the new mystery defense witness says he'll speak to reporters at 4 p.m. today: http://goo.gl/sOAMB #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:51:02 AM
Now on to her NEXT report.... (http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/crazy.gif)

OMG!!!!!! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 11:51:43 AM
I hope Mr. Ashton's passion won't backfire on  him.  He really seems quite edgy today.

Hellsbells..I am MORE than edgy today...it's not getting better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 11:51:49 AM
Now on to her NEXT report.... (http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/crazy.gif)
::MonkeyHaHa:: I can't take much more.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
bobkealing bob kealing
by MarthaSugalski
#CaseyAnthony Anthony's attorney Mark Lippman: Anthony defense "won't need that depo" they requested of Thompson.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)

More wasted taxpayer's money........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:51:57 AM
Here are 2 good juror links
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/ (http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:52:10 AM
Really can't he just say did you find any blood on any of the items you collected


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:52:13 AM
Lawyer for mystery defense witness linked to George Anthony schedules press conference

 ::snipping2::

Today's press conference is scheduled for 4 p.m. with attorney Richard Hale.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/263420/Lawyer-for-mystery-defense-witness-linked-to-George-Anthony-schedules-press-conference?cmpid=caseytwitter


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cherjers on June 16, 2011, 11:52:13 AM
There is blood on jurio 4  just slit her thorat ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 11:52:23 AM
why is he so concerned about blood if caylee drowned accidently in the family pool?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 11:52:41 AM
tic   tac  toe anyone?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2011, 11:52:59 AM
I think he will keep her on the stand to as close to noon as possible so the State will not have the chance to cross until after lunch, further confusing the jury.

;) 11:50 am .....  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 11:53:01 AM
Wouldn't no blood increase the likelihood of drowning?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:53:06 AM
No DNA due to the environment and weather conditions, come on let's get on with this farce!   Im agitated because Bozo is cutting into my sunshine time!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:53:16 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Jury is paying close attention

 KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense is asking whether the sticky side is the better side of tape to get dna

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:53:18 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense is asking whether partial dna on tape could exclude Caylee.. Exclude Casey
5 minutes ago

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Jury is paying close attention
7 minutes ago

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense is asking whether the sticky side is the better side of tape to get dna
7 minutes ago



Tweets are more interesting than this witness.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: scrappysniffer on June 16, 2011, 11:53:24 AM
ICA moved into JB chair...sitting next to CM.  She is sitting up a lot higher and does not appear to have any problems...IMO the lowering of her own chair is a ploy by the defense to make her look 'smaller'.  If she can sit it JB chair just fine she should leave her chair alone...sorry cannot stay listening anymore going back to lurk mode.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:53:50 AM
Wouldn't no blood increase the likelihood of drowning?

as well as being poisoned with chloroform and/or smothering with duct tape, yes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:54:23 AM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
#caseyanthony Jurors look mostly slumped in their chairs. Lunch break badly needed.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
There is blood on jurio 4  just slit her thorat ::boxingbaez2::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
Wouldn't no blood increase the likelihood of drowning?
or smothering with duct tape


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:55:04 AM
Lawyer for mystery defense witness linked to George Anthony schedules press conference

 ::snipping2::

Today's press conference is scheduled for 4 p.m. with attorney Richard Hale.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/263420/Lawyer-for-mystery-defense-witness-linked-to-George-Anthony-schedules-press-conference?cmpid=caseytwitter

The defense should be made to pay for this man's attorney fees  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 11:55:16 AM
Was blood on bag, however not enough to say who's it was.
Hope it wasn't Caylee's..........
My mind is thinking.......
 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:55:21 AM
BOZO sit down!! ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:55:27 AM
MarthaSugalski Martha Sugalski
Laundry bag tested positive for possible blood

http://twitter.com/#!/MarthaSugalski (http://twitter.com/#!/MarthaSugalski)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 11:55:29 AM
BAEZ IS AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 16, 2011, 11:55:39 AM
So how does all this crapola prove that Caylee died in the pool and GA and Kronk hid her body?   I'm going to take my granddaughter to see Kung Fu Panda 2 when they break for lunch.

Oh wow...I thought we were at lunch or nap time.  Enjoy your special time with your GD.

 ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:55:44 AM
Bozo you idiot!   Trying to enter something not in evidence....now told to disregard by CJBP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:55:49 AM
wow.. the blanket wasnt even in evidence.. what an asshat  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 11:55:58 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 11:56:01 AM


 

Where is bozo going with the blood questions?   

Good grief, there will be blood after I punch that nasty azz smirk off of bozo's face!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:57:04 AM
MarthaSugalski Martha Sugalski
Baez just said oops sorry blanket I just spoke about is not in evidence - its my error.

http://twitter.com/#!/MarthaSugalski (http://twitter.com/#!/MarthaSugalski)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:57:30 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
The defense just asked about an item NOT in evidence so judge instructs jury to strike it. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 11:57:37 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.

@$$HATS!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 11:57:44 AM
I thought the blood was just on one item?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 11:57:48 AM
Wouldn't no blood increase the likelihood of drowning?

as well as being poisoned with chloroform and/or smothering with duct tape, yes.
touche  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 16, 2011, 11:58:03 AM
Wouldn't no blood increase the likelihood of drowning?

No, not IMO. So many ways to kill someone OR have an accidental death without the presence of blood.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 11:58:12 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
#JoseBaez asks if duct tape was put on "in a violent matter" would have skin tissue on it. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)

DNA deteriorates rapidly with HEAT or SUNLIGHT. This is stupid the little body was outside for over 6 months.

Total waste of time to the jury. I am reading they are bored. I think this will go against defense in the run long if they do this with every witness. Of course Bozo needs his camera time and more law schooling from the court, Mason and the state. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:58:37 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
#JoseBaez points out blanket in discussion was not related to case. Ask to strike from record. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 11:58:42 AM
Wonder if kc put cloths on Caylee just before she put Caylee in the woods.  The shorts would fix then.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
We could play hangman or hangwoman.

The lady testifying is so professional and is putting up with the defense.

::monkeywine2:: it must be happy hour somewhere!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 11:58:59 AM

Hi Janet,

This whole situation is so absurd and out of the ordinary, I don't think we can use ordinary thinking nor emotions when viewing the family and their reactions.

I think that once the A's accepted Casey had murdered Caylee and was going to try to bury the family with the accusations against George and Lee..she also came to the conclusion the only way Casey could be doing all this was if she was mentally ill.

Like it or not..Casey is still her daughter and I think that Cindy is trying very hard to appear as if she has unconditional love for Casey..as she did for Caylee.  However, I think she is as torn as ever in her own feelings for her daughter..and rightly so..I can't imagine all the feelings just sitting in the same room with Casey must evoke for her..from love to hate and everything inbetween..and not being able to express those verbally.  Part of me would need to be tyed down so I didn't smack the carp out of her..the other would want to tell her I see your sickness and know you need help.  But were way beyond all that now.

I am sure in their darkest hours the A's blame thenselves that they didn't handle this differently..but that is the past..the guilty party is Casey and she is the party the needs to pay.  The defense should have founda shrink to declare her legally insane 2.5 years ago..people could comprehend and believe that..this circus the jury is viewing they can't .


Gypsy

If Cindy and George had spent the past three years on a mission to have their daughter declared legally insane rather than distancing Casey from implication regarding happenings encompassing the demise of their granddaughter ... I would have been in their corner.  I would be embracing them with compassion.

Janet 



Janet, Cindy & George could not have effected their daughter getting declared legally insane even if that is what they desired.   Fact is, she has not been declared legally insane by medical professionals nor would it have ever occurred by any other medical professional.   Casey is NOT legally insane by any stretch of the imagination nor legal definition of the term.

A pathological liar from way back who lives the good life for 30 days following the demise of her two year old daughter ... no grief ... no remorse ... is normal????

Janet

++++

TAPED TRANSCRIPT OF JESSE AARON GRUND
INTERVIEW CONDUCTED BY CORPORAL MELICH
CASE NUMBER – 08-69208
SEPTEMBER 9, 2008


YM: So she went to uh, Orlando Regional Medical Center or Winter Park. Do you ever, did you go there? Did you….

JG: Yes, I did. I went there. Uhm, I actually called her family on the phone….
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).

JG: …while the paramedics were tending to her. Uhm, sh…they had no idea she was even over at my place, or that we were even talking again. Uhm, they went to the hospital. I sat in the hospital for a while. Uhm, we went, we ended up going back later on that night because she was admitted because they didn’t know why the seizure happened. We went back over to my apartment uhm, to pick up her car. And uhm, I didn’t get to tell you this, but her dad, her dad pulled me aside and said, “Look, I don’t know what’s going on between the two of you, but you’re a really good guy Jesse and you’ve got a lot going for you. And you treat her really well and you treat my granddaughter extremely well. But you don’t need to be around Casey because she has some problems that we need to get her help for.”

YM: Such as what?

JG: He wouldn’t expand upon it. He said it’s not issue, his, he, he, the only thing he further on said was uhm, “She, she’s not a good person right now. She’s not in a right place.”

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedfiles/Grund,%20Jesse.03.090808.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 11:59:18 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.
Did we know about blood on these items?  Wouldn't this point to willful murder?  If Caylee drowned, no blood, if Caylee duct taped and chloroformed, no blood!  Is this a new theory posited by the defense?  Color me confused!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 11:59:55 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing the jury's attention

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 12:00:01 PM
i honestly am disgusted on a new level that bozo and the defense went on and on about the blood and the blanket when it wasn't even in evidence. they clearly did that on purpose and it's not like the jury is going to forget even though they were instructed to.  This is ridiculous. he should be sanctioned for that imo, it was on purpose and was not an honest mistake


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 12:00:35 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.
Did we know about blood on these items?  Wouldn't this point to willful murder?  If Caylee drowned, no blood, if Caylee duct taped and chloroformed, no blood!  Is this a new theory posited by the defense?  Color me confused!

I'm confused too!

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
MarthaSugalski Martha Sugalski
Baez just said oops sorry blanket I just spoke about is not in evidence - its my error.

http://twitter.com/#!/MarthaSugalski (http://twitter.com/#!/MarthaSugalski)
I don't think that's an error. I think he meant to bring it in...
@sshat to the nth degree!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:00:53 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing the jury's attention
2 minutes ago

He's losing everyone!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 12:01:02 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.

@$$HATS!!!!


Sorry I missed this...had to change pc's.  My laptop over heated...... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 12:01:23 PM
i honestly am disgusted on a new level that bozo and the defense went on and on about the blood and the blanket when it wasn't even in evidence. they clearly did that on purpose and it's not like the jury is going to forget even though they were instructed to.  This is ridiculous. he should be sanctioned for that imo, it was on purpose and was not an honest mistake

I agree!

 ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingbaez2::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:01:31 PM

Hi Janet,

This whole situation is so absurd and out of the ordinary, I don't think we can use ordinary thinking nor emotions when viewing the family and their reactions.

I think that once the A's accepted Casey had murdered Caylee and was going to try to bury the family with the accusations against George and Lee..she also came to the conclusion the only way Casey could be doing all this was if she was mentally ill.

Like it or not..Casey is still her daughter and I think that Cindy is trying very hard to appear as if she has unconditional love for Casey..as she did for Caylee.  However, I think she is as torn as ever in her own feelings for her daughter..and rightly so..I can't imagine all the feelings just sitting in the same room with Casey must evoke for her..from love to hate and everything inbetween..and not being able to express those verbally.  Part of me would need to be tyed down so I didn't smack the carp out of her..the other would want to tell her I see your sickness and know you need help.  But were way beyond all that now.

I am sure in their darkest hours the A's blame thenselves that they didn't handle this differently..but that is the past..the guilty party is Casey and she is the party the needs to pay.  The defense should have founda shrink to declare her legally insane 2.5 years ago..people could comprehend and believe that..this circus the jury is viewing they can't .


Gypsy

If Cindy and George had spent the past three years on a mission to have their daughter declared legally insane rather than distancing Casey from implication regarding happenings encompassing the demise of their granddaughter ... I would have been in their corner.  I would be embracing them with compassion.

Janet 



Janet, Cindy & George could not have effected their daughter getting declared legally insane even if that is what they desired.   Fact is, she has not been declared legally insane by medical professionals nor would it have ever occurred by any other medical professional.   Casey is NOT legally insane by any stretch of the imagination nor legal definition of the term.

A pathological liar from way back who lives the good life for 30 days following the demise of her two year old daughter ... no grief ... no remorse ... is normal????

Janet

++++

TAPED TRANSCRIPT OF JESSE AARON GRUND
INTERVIEW CONDUCTED BY CORPORAL MELICH
CASE NUMBER – 08-69208
SEPTEMBER 9, 2008


YM: So she went to uh, Orlando Regional Medical Center or Winter Park. Do you ever, did you go there? Did you….

JG: Yes, I did. I went there. Uhm, I actually called her family on the phone….
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).

JG: …while the paramedics were tending to her. Uhm, sh…they had no idea she was even over at my place, or that we were even talking again. Uhm, they went to the hospital. I sat in the hospital for a while. Uhm, we went, we ended up going back later on that night because she was admitted because they didn’t know why the seizure happened. We went back over to my apartment uhm, to pick up her car. And uhm, I didn’t get to tell you this, but her dad, her dad pulled me aside and said, “Look, I don’t know what’s going on between the two of you, but you’re a really good guy Jesse and you’ve got a lot going for you. And you treat her really well and you treat my granddaughter extremely well. But you don’t need to be around Casey because she has some problems that we need to get her help for.”

YM: Such as what?

JG: He wouldn’t expand upon it. He said it’s not issue, his, he, he, the only thing he further on said was uhm, “She, she’s not a good person right now. She’s not in a right place.”

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedfiles/Grund,%20Jesse.03.090808.pdf


Casey does not met the legal requirement to be declared "legally insane," no.  She may have disorders but they are not illnesses nor differentiate that she doesnt no the difference between right or wrong nor isnt aware of what is going on around her, she fully comprehends what is going on around her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 12:01:37 PM
When's lunch oh test if Lee father?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 12:01:38 PM
i honestly am disgusted on a new level that bozo and the defense went on and on about the blood and the blanket when it wasn't even in evidence. they clearly did that on purpose and it's not like the jury is going to forget even though they were instructed to.  This is ridiculous. he should be sanctioned for that imo, it was on purpose and was not an honest mistake
I just said the same thing.  He is so transparent!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 12:01:55 PM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcbbydoll.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
Here are 2 good juror links
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/ (http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery)

These are excellent........ thanks, Flamom!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Mtnmom on June 16, 2011, 12:02:08 PM
was there two blankets found at the scene?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cherjers on June 16, 2011, 12:02:35 PM
If this is bozo best he better not be alone with kc don't forget she research. Neck breaking


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 12:02:39 PM
what a friggin dirty scoundrel he is.. getting that Lee Anthony DNA paternity statement in


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:02:46 PM
Argument about paternity test transpiring now.

OMG!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:03:03 PM
Bobo cracks his hands and sticks out his gut. WTH is that about?????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 16, 2011, 12:03:05 PM
Judge looks unhappy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 12:03:12 PM


Awesome Ashton is pizzed!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 12:03:30 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Baez asks if jurors can raise their hands if they don't understand. Judge Perry says no. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

omg! Is this his first time in a courtroom?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 12:03:36 PM


Awesome Ashton is pizzed!!!!!!

VERY!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 12:03:44 PM
Here are 2 good juror links
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/ (http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/247698/)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery)

These are excellent........ thanks, Flamom!
your very welcome CBB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:04:20 PM
Two very good faith reasons to ask the question

1) testing was done
2) he asked this witness if it is normal if that test is done   ::boxingbaez2::

REGARDLESS, the results were negative so F off Bozo & your lil slore too  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:04:21 PM
So why bring it up!

He is not the father


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
Argument about paternity test transpiring now.

OMG!!!!!!
Good faith, my @zz...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:05:05 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton says they have no good faith basis for asking about paternity tests for #CayleeAnthony #CaseyAnthony -jfell


http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 12:05:07 PM
OMG!!!!  What an azz.  Did you see the cocky SOB crack his knuckles??????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 12:05:23 PM
Wow Baez wanted a test done to see if Lee was the offspring of Caylee! (http://i50.tinypic.com/2zem3pw.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:06:03 PM


Awesome Ashton is pizzed!!!!!!

VERY!!

YOU GO ASHTON, YOU GO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 12:06:08 PM
Was this asked this in front of the jury??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 12:06:20 PM
OMG!!!!  What an azz.  Did you see the cocky SOB crack his knuckles??????????????


I sure did!!!   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:06:31 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.
Did we know about blood on these items?  Wouldn't this point to willful murder?  If Caylee drowned, no blood, if Caylee duct taped and chloroformed, no blood!  Is this a new theory posited by the defense?  Color me confused!

It might point to my original theory that KC went off on little Caylee beating her. That would fall in line with the tooth being inside the skull when it was found. I have always wondered about that.

There would have been a lot of blood if it was on the shirt, the blanket, the laundry bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:06:35 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Very angry OBJ to #caseyanthony def for asking if #leeanthony was tested for possible paternity of Caylee.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:06:40 PM
Wow Baez wanted a test done to see if Lee was the offspring of Caylee! (http://i50.tinypic.com/2zem3pw.jpg)

Casey you will rot in hell for the murder of Caylee & what you are doing to your family...this is a certainty!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Wyks on June 16, 2011, 12:06:43 PM
i honestly am disgusted on a new level that bozo and the defense went on and on about the blood and the blanket when it wasn't even in evidence. they clearly did that on purpose and it's not like the jury is going to forget even though they were instructed to.  This is ridiculous. he should be sanctioned for that imo, it was on purpose and was not an honest mistake

Agreed!   ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 12:07:13 PM
you tell them ashton!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:07:18 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton asks Seubert if state or Orange Co asked FBI to do paternity test? She reads statement and it doesn't mention Lee Anthony.

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:07:18 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.
Did we know about blood on these items?  Wouldn't this point to willful murder?  If Caylee drowned, no blood, if Caylee duct taped and chloroformed, no blood!  Is this a new theory posited by the defense?  Color me confused!

It might point to my original theory that KC went off on little Caylee beating her. That would fall in line with the tooth being inside the skull when it was found. I have always wondered about that.

There would have been a lot of blood if it was on the shirt, the blanket, the laundry bag.

I thought there was only blood on one item?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:08:15 PM
myfoxorlando myfoxorlando
Chemical test for blood found was "possible" it was on Winnie the Pooh blanket found at remains scene. No DNA found.... http://dlvr.it/Wbc7F

 myfoxorlando myfoxorlando
No DNA identified from what was left of shirt; presence of blood on this item was "possible." #CaseyAnthony #Fox35 http://dlvr.it/Wbbzb

http://twitter.com/#!/myfoxorlando (http://twitter.com/#!/myfoxorlando)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.

I don't get where he's going with this but there was that steak knife found in Casey's car, so hope it bites him in the arse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:08:57 PM
Wow Baez wanted a test done to see if Lee was the offspring of Caylee! (http://i50.tinypic.com/2zem3pw.jpg)

Casey you will rot in hell for the murder of Caylee & what you are doing to your family...this is a certainty!
I want her to rot in prison first.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 12:09:06 PM



So are they going to try to say that Lee killed Caylee??? 

I am so confused   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:09:11 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
October 2008 Seubert was asked by Nick Savage (FBI agent working on case) if Lee could be father. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:09:54 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton is getting excited in his questioning about good faith and relevance. #CaseyAnthony -jfell


http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 12:09:58 PM
Wow Baez wanted a test done to see if Lee was the offspring of Caylee! (http://i50.tinypic.com/2zem3pw.jpg)

Casey you will rot in hell for the murder of Caylee & what you are doing to your family...this is a certainty!


AMEN, Capp!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:10:05 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::  Jeff Ashton.    Hope he takes BP meds tho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 12:10:13 PM
seriously, baez needs to get disbarred. this is so ridiculous and ludircious. i don't know how judge perry is not laughing at his incompetence, i'm sure he does when he gets back into his chambers


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:10:34 PM
 ::boxingjeffbaez:: Fireworks have begun....grande finale will be Casey's conviction  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingcasey2::

CJBP  denies Bozo from asking unless he calls the particular officer to the stand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:10:40 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
#CaseyAnthony is looking and talking with Cheney Mason during this questioning. -jfell


http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Wyks on June 16, 2011, 12:10:49 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing the jury's attention
2 minutes ago

He's losing everyone!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

He sure is!  Doesn't this just strengthen the prosecution's side for the jury?  If so much of what the defense says/does is lost on the jury, seems to me that what they will retain will be what the prosecution says/does. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Deep Yoga Breaths, Jeff, deep yoga breaths...Calm down.  Baez will get a smack down from our good Judge.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 12:10:58 PM
Judge talkin' BANANAS  now.... ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:11:05 PM
CJBP is schooling yet once again! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:11:25 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
No Jury... FIREWORKS Paternity tests were requested by FBI investigator... But DNA shows Lee NOT father!

http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:11:54 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
October 2008 Seubert was asked by Nick Savage (FBI agent working on case) if Lee could be father. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

And so what, the result is NO, period so bozo is purely trying to inflame the jury.   Casey sit down beeotch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Red on June 16, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton is getting excited in his questioning about good faith and relevance. #CaseyAnthony -jfell


http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

Get em Ashton, oh he is hot with Baez. JP lecturing attys about good faith basis questions.

Like anything Baez does is in good faith.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 12:12:09 PM
::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::  Jeff Ashton.    Hope he takes BP meds tho.
::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:12:26 PM
 ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Angry OBJ to #caseyanthony def ques "was paternity test requested for #leeanthony as to Caylees father" Jury sent to lunch.. Pros MAD now

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:12:43 PM
JP

I don't have a hearing problem  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

JP is pissed

And I love Ashton he is so passionate about this case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:12:56 PM
They had the results sent to another lab if he was potentially the father.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.
Did we know about blood on these items?  Wouldn't this point to willful murder?  If Caylee drowned, no blood, if Caylee duct taped and chloroformed, no blood!  Is this a new theory posited by the defense?  Color me confused!

It might point to my original theory that KC went off on little Caylee beating her. That would fall in line with the tooth being inside the skull when it was found. I have always wondered about that.

There would have been a lot of blood if it was on the shirt, the blanket, the laundry bag.

I thought there was only blood on one item?

She said yes to all three.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:13:24 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Judge tells Baez to review a case concerning good faith questioning. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:13:59 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
RT @ScorpyoRising: Ashton: "That is not the question counsel asked and he darn well knows it." #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:14:03 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 12:14:23 PM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcleaving.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
Deep Yoga Breaths, Jeff, deep yoga breaths...Calm down.  Baez will get a smack down from our good Judge.   ::MonkeyKiss::
I worried about Ashton being able to control his temper.  It would be hard to do when you have a STUPID defense attorney who thinks he is smart and so cocky to boot.  I'm going to be away for awhile but am staying logged in so that I can start from where I left off. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:14:50 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Judge Perry says no questions leading to the inference police asked about Lee. Judge says he doesn't know what was in their minds...

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:14:51 PM
Judge Eaton says the defense is pointing out that there is lack of evidence in a lot of things.  Prosecution is not having a good day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 12:14:56 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20503043,00.html
Casey Anthony Trial: Strengths & Weaknesses of the State's Case
By Steve Helling
Thursday June 16, 2011 12:00 PM EDT

Over the past 19 days, the State of Florida has called more than 30 witnesses and introduced 315 pieces of evidence against Casey Anthony, the Florida mom accused of murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. Despite the evidence against Anthony, though, some questions remain. Namely, could she go free?

As the defense begins, PEOPLE looks at the strengths and weaknesses of the prosecution's case.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:15:28 PM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
State attorney Jeff Ashton is fired up today. #CaseyAnthony trial live on #HLN.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:15:35 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Angry OBJ to #caseyanthony def ques "was paternity test requested for #leeanthony as to Caylees father" Jury sent to lunch.. Pros MAD now

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)

As they should be - this was a deliberate attempt to put information out there which is not in evidence and not even relevant to imply there is something wrong. There has been NOTHING presented as to any incest claim except bozo's opening statement and that is not evidence.Bozo got by with using that blanket blood when it had not been in evidence and you can't un-ring a bell once the jury heard it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:16:17 PM
They had the results sent to another lab if he was potentially the father.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.
Did we know about blood on these items?  Wouldn't this point to willful murder?  If Caylee drowned, no blood, if Caylee duct taped and chloroformed, no blood!  Is this a new theory posited by the defense?  Color me confused!

It might point to my original theory that KC went off on little Caylee beating her. That would fall in line with the tooth being inside the skull when it was found. I have always wondered about that.

There would have been a lot of blood if it was on the shirt, the blanket, the laundry bag.

I thought there was only blood on one item?

She said yes to all three.

WOW..If they could have only found her earlier we may know what happen to her. Sad


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:16:28 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Judge Perry tells attorneys they don't need to raise their voices or change inflections. He says he can hear just fine. #CaseyAnthony -fell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:16:36 PM
Judge Eaton says the defense is pointing out that there is lack of evidence in a lot of things.  Prosecution is not having a good day.

I disagree


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:17:29 PM
 OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Perry: "I will ask the court reporter to mark the last question. I will review it." #CaseyAnthony

 OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Perry: Will consider striking Baez's question when they reconvene. #CaseyAnthony

 OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Recess until 1:30 p.m. #CaseyAnthony\

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 12:17:30 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:18:05 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Perry: Brings up Diamante Banana Company case re: good faith basis about asking questions. #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:18:07 PM
Judge Eaton says the defense is pointing out that there is lack of evidence in a lot of things.  Prosecution is not having a good day.

I disagree

Me too. Nothing was learned that was not already out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:18:30 PM
Judge Eaton says the defense is pointing out that there is lack of evidence in a lot of things.  Prosecution is not having a good day.

I think they are sick and tired of all this crap being slid in backwards by bozo and the judge not stopping it. It is not they are having a bad day but they are pissed off. This should all be stopped.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 12:18:31 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Angry OBJ to #caseyanthony def ques "was paternity test requested for #leeanthony as to Caylees father" Jury sent to lunch.. Pros MAD now

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)

As they should be - this was a deliberate attempt to put information out there which is not in evidence and not even relevant to imply there is something wrong. There has been NOTHING presented as to any incest claim except bozo's opening statement and that is not evidence.Bozo got by with using that blanket blood when it had not been in evidence and you can't un-ring a bell once the jury heard it.
This AZZ has been getting stuff in throughout this trial that should not be there.  I'm so so sick of him and he damn well better get disbarred after this trial.  I hope he loses his house and rots in hell with KC.  Sorry but I'm so upset I'm ready to cry!  Be back later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 12:18:39 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/
Day 20: Casey Anthony's defense calls 1st witness, unveils new evidence

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/casey-anthony-4pics-1-0616.jpg)
Four weeks into the Casey Anthony trial, it's the defense's turn to present its case. Today, the jury could hear from a surprise witness claiming to be connected to George Anthony.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:18:48 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 16, 2011, 12:19:14 PM
11:10am Thursday, June 16, 2011 Court is in session.

Back from side bar.

The defense witness Heather Seubert is back on the witness stand. She is an expert witness from the FBI.

Baez is up....

Looking at report from March 19, 2009.  These items are duct tape from the ME's office.  They were submitted from the FBI.  She examined the top side of the tape, the silver side of the tape.  They were swabbed for biological material.  The logo Henkle was throughout the tape.  They found a DNA profile but it was below the threshold for the FBI reporting policy.  How many markers were there?  6 out of the 9 that were tested.  The witness is going to Baez's Big Pad. They looked for 13 areas on the DNA....talking about DNA.  She used two different DNA kits on the samples.  She listed out 9 of the 13 locations needed.  As it relates to the non-sticky side of the duct tape what did you find?  It did not meet my reporting threshold. How many markers do you need to exclude someone?  One marker.  Could you exclude Casey Anthony from the one marker?  Yes.  Could you exclude Caylee Anthony?  Yes.  She then tested the known blood samples from other family members, Lee, George, Cindy.  All of those individuals were excluded from this profile.  What did you do next to find out who this might be?  I tested the people in the lab.  Did you find someone who matched these markers.  She knew it was a female marker so she identified those people in the lab and it turned out to be Laurie Godison in the FBI lab.  Can this DNA contaminate DNA that was already there?  Depends on the quantity of the DNA.  On this item the profile was low, so she would expect to see a mixture and she didn't.  It is still possible that other DNA was contaminated?  No, I would of expected it to be contained there.  What if it was too low, would it still be there?  Objection..sustained.  Can contaminated DNA override DNA already there?  If a large presence of DNA was put over a small amount of DNA it would be possible.  The tape got to the FBI last in the line.  Yes.  Is that common?  What.  Would it have been better for the FBI to get the duct tape first?  Any time an item is touched it can be contaminated but my test would of been no different. Who decides where the evidence goes?  It follows the FBI protocol.  Was it your understanding that the duct tape had been exposed to numerous elements?  Yes, we knew it was outside in a swamp that had water in it at times.  Do the elements degrade DNA?  Sure, sunlight, humidity, different factors can effect DNA.  Why do the test?  Because it is still evidence in this case and I needed to test it for DNA.  You can still get DNA from items under water?  It is possible but there would be several different factors in the time the item was submerged, was it semen was it blood?  You can also get DNA profiles from someone who has been burned?  Yes.  Are there multiple variables that determine if a DNA profile can be found?  Do you know all the variables of an item?  No.  Is it possible for you to know if you can get DNA from an item before you test it?  Depends, if it looks like a blood stain, I think I can get one, other stains, I don't know.  Where would you stand a chance of getting a DNA profile on duct tape?  Top side or sticky side?  Jeff asks for a side bar, 11:40..side bar is over.....

The higher likely hood would be the underside touching someones face.  If it was put on violently, would you expect to find tissue on it?  Yes.  Did you test the sticky side?  Yes, it was inconclusive.  Was there a readout?  Yes there was a peak found at the D-3 location, it was a 17.  Is Caylee Anthony a 17 at the D-3 marker?  No, she is a 14/15.  Could you exclude Caylee Anthony at that marker?  Yes.  Could you exclude Casey Anthony at that marker?  Yes, she is also a 14/15.  Moving to her Aug 19, 2009 report.  What are the item you received on this report?  A pair of shorts.  Where did these shorts come from?  From the ME's office.  What tests were done on those shorts?  Tests for blood and semen, both were negative.  Next item is clothing, letters, stitching and stretch material.  Tested possible for blood but was found to be negative.  It was then sent for DNA typing, there was no DNA from that item.  Next item is a blanket.  Did you find blood on that blanket?  It tested possible for blood but it was negative.  No DNA was found on the blanket.  It was also looked at for the presence of semen, that was negative.  Next item is a laundry bag.  Ran blood tests, it was positive but insufficient quantity for testing for blood.  No DNA was present.  Next item is a blanket.  Tested for the blood and semen.  It had a possible test for blood but the test was negative, tested negative for DNA.  Baez just struck all evidence for this blanket, it was his mistake.  Next item is doll.  Where did the doll come from?  Collected from Sun Fire, was in the car seat.  Was tested for presence of blood that test was negative.  Next report was Dec 16, 2008. On page 2 of your report were you given the profiles of Cindy, George and Lee Anthony?  Yes, buccal samples.  Were you asked to conduct a paternity test for Lee Anthony being the father of Caylee Anthony?  Side Bar........

Judge is recessing for lunch.  12:00am.

Jeff is objecting to this question, Baez knows that the FBI does not do paternity testing and this was not in good faith.  Judge asks Baez was this a good faith question?  I have two very good faith reasons for asking this question.  First it was tested for paternity for Lee Anthony being the parent of Caylee Anthony.  The FBI does not normally do it but they did do it in this case and it was sent out after that.  It was in black and white in a report, how is that not in a good faith basis?  Jeff Ashton knew I was going to ask this question.  Jeff asks the FBI witness if she was ever asked to perform a paternity test for Lee being the father of Caylee?  On Sep 12, 2008, she spoke to Nick Savage that she could run the test and then send it to a further lab for testing.  Does that in any way mention Lee Anthony?  No.  Jeff says that LE did not ask for this test.  There is no good faith basis for that and that is hearsay and not relevant.  Baez is asking the witness, who did you think you they asked for the paternity test?  Nick Savage asked her if she could run the result and find out if Lee could be the father of Caylee.  So they ran the test and if he was a possible father they would send it to another lab.  She then reported out that Lee Anthony could not be the father of Caylee Anthony.  Jeff wants to know, how is this a good faith basis, asking what some LE asked someone to do.  That is not the question Baez asked and that is not what he was trying to tell the jury.  The judge says that he doesn't know what was in Baez or Jeff's mind but they are not to ask questions unless you want to ask the LE what they asked.  I am not going to venture to speculate why you asked that.  There is a case called Del Monte Banana Company, read it, it talks about good faith basis.  There is another case Brock, please read those cases for a good faith basis for asking questions.  That is all I am going to say.  Jeff wants the last question stricken and the judge says he will look at the question.  He does not have a hearing problem and the amplification of your objections does not need to be raised.  He will ask the court reporter to mark the last question and he will consider striking it.  Court is in recess till 1:30pm.


EDIT: FIXED TYPO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 12:19:28 PM
Judge Eaton says the defense is pointing out that there is lack of evidence in a lot of things.  Prosecution is not having a good day.

I disagree

I disagree as well.  Baez is basically trying to get the jury to believe in a bunch of lies, therefore he is bringing up things not in evidence, making inferences when none could be made w/out the evidence, and so on. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 12:20:10 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/
Day 20: Casey Anthony's defense calls 1st witness, unveils new evidence

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/casey-anthony-4pics-1-0616.jpg)
Four weeks into the Casey Anthony trial, it's the defense's turn to present its case. Today, the jury could hear from a surprise witness claiming to be connected to George Anthony.
 ::snipping2::
Love this photo of Baez at the flippin' flip chart!  It should say, Casey did it and I'm a Doofus!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:20:22 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.

It is not in any of her statements that I remember.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:20:29 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.

No, Casey made no mention until her "set up" jail letters.  She did infer it to Jesse Grund & Tony L according to their statements seen in discovery, and this is what prompted Nick Savage from the FBI to inquire.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/casey-anthony-3-0616_rdax_492x480.jpg)
Casey Anthony watches the jury arrive in the courtroom during day 20 of her 1st -degree murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse, in Orlando, Fla., Thursday, June 16, 2011.
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/263696/Day-20:-Casey-Anthonys-defense-calls-1st-witness,-unveils-new-evidence


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:20:52 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
The good folks at Time were kind enuf to send me an advance copy yestdy of #caseyanthony piece.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:21:34 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
There are 5 people in the hallway who could all be called to testify. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:22:12 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Vasco Thompson press conference canceled. #caseyanthony


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:22:48 PM
Before I take a break to put on my gravy for sausage & peppers with pasta tonight & an afternoon dip in the pool I would just like to also add this:

I think Bozo may have opened the door to Tony L's testimony offered in proffer to come out before the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 12:23:16 PM
Considering the family's attorney concedes that the defence's strategy was known since February ... would it not make sense that George had voluntarily submitted to paternity tests prior to the trial?  All Caylee's info is on file from when Jesse Grund requested a  paternity test in an attempt to determine if he was Caylee's father?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:23:18 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Vasco Thompson press conference canceled. #caseyanthony


http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)

Dam, why!   I wanted to have that on the record.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 12:23:29 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Vasco Thompson press conference canceled. #caseyanthony


http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)
::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 12:23:39 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.


No, Casey made no mention until her "set up" jail letters.  She did infer it to Jesse Grund & Tony L according to their statements seen in discovery, and this is what prompted Nick Savage from the FBI to inquire.
Thanks, Capp.  I couldn't remember the timeline. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Vasco Thompson press conference canceled. #caseyanthony


http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)

that was quick


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:24:17 PM
Considering the family's attorney concedes that the defence's strategy was known since February ... would it not make sense that George had voluntarily submitted to paternity tests prior to the trial?  All Caylee's info is on file from when Jesse Grund requested a  paternity test in an attempt to determine if he was Caylee's father?

Janet

George & Lee were EXCLUDED after testing due to what Jesse Grund & Tony L said in their statements to LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:25:02 PM

Snipped>>>>

  Baez is asking the witness, who did you think you they asked for the paternity test?  Nick Savage asked her if she could run the result and find out if Lee could be the father of Caylee.  So they ran the test and if he was a possible father they would send it to another lab.  She then reported out that Lee Anthony could be the father of Caylee Anthony.  


This falls right in line with what my sister in law said. (Microbiologist) Although that chart someone posted claimed he could not she said it ruled the opposite that he or George could be and it would take further testing to disprove either of them.

I hate to laugh but I took a lot of crap over that and it turned out true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Samarie on June 16, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.

It is not in any of her statements that I remember.

IIRC Many of KC's friends had been bulldinkied into thinking that Lee and George had molested her. It came up early on in the interviews...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:25:15 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.
In Baez's OS....(paraphrasing) he said Lee followed in George's actions.....but didn't go as far.  So why try to influence the jury with his statements today?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:26:06 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing the jury's attention
2 minutes ago

He's losing everyone!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

He sure is!  Doesn't this just strengthen the prosecution's side for the jury?  If so much of what the defense says/does is lost on the jury, seems to me that what they will retain will be what the prosecution says/does. 



and the prosecution gets last bat at the inmate with their rebuttal


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 12:26:17 PM
I hate to run, but need to go see my Mom.  I'll try to be back after lunch break.  More Hijinks will Ensue, no doubt.  Man, the defense team makes me sick!  (By the way, every time I try to type "defense", it comes out degenerate.  Freudian slip, anyone? ::MonkeyGavel::)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 12:26:41 PM
getting close to lunch. Judge asks Baez how long and he repeats the number of questions he has left... Will some good Monkey look at that answer and see if the questions he asks are the same number or more. If same or more then his question was very planned to put it into ambush right before lunch... IMO it was an ambush and timed to be done then.

This is a disgrace to all defense attorneys, good and bad ones.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:26:54 PM
Considering the family's attorney concedes that the defence's strategy was known since February ... would it not make sense that George had voluntarily submitted to paternity tests prior to the trial?  All Caylee's info is on file from when Jesse Grund requested a  paternity test in an attempt to determine if he was Caylee's father?

Janet

George & Lee were EXCLUDED after testing due to what Jesse Grund & Tony L said in their statements to LE.

No - neither of them were excluded according to a specialist in DNA. (my sister in law)  FBI just said the same thing on the stand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 16, 2011, 12:27:35 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/
Day 20: Casey Anthony's defense calls 1st witness, unveils new evidence

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/casey-anthony-4pics-1-0616.jpg)
Four weeks into the Casey Anthony trial, it's the defense's turn to present its case. Today, the jury could hear from a surprise witness claiming to be connected to George Anthony.
 ::snipping2::

Oh my....Look at JB writing on the board.  I thought Klaas Photoshopped it and it was make to look like he was writing TOUCH DOWN!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 12:28:36 PM
Casey wasn't 8 years old when Caylee was born.  If there was continued abuse, wouldn't she get a job and move away?  Make a police report??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:28:47 PM
Ok now i am more confused lee and GA were excluded they are not the father of Caylee. It was just said in court. Why are some saying they are?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 12:28:53 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.

It is not in any of her statements that I remember.

Well the police from the get go knew(has proof) that kc just lies, lies,lies.
I think kc did say something to someone about lee, can't remember.
If kc did, that was another lie that was proved....

Jose is just trying to mess with the jurors heads.....
 ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
Considering the family's attorney concedes that the defence's strategy was known since February ... would it not make sense that George had voluntarily submitted to paternity tests prior to the trial?  All Caylee's info is on file from when Jesse Grund requested a  paternity test in an attempt to determine if he was Caylee's father?

Janet

George & Lee were EXCLUDED after testing due to what Jesse Grund & Tony L said in their statements to LE.

Thank you.

My understanding was that only Lee submitted to a paternity test.  I stand corrected.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:29:05 PM
Before I take a break to put on my gravy for sausage & peppers with pasta tonight & an afternoon dip in the pool I would just like to also add this:

I think Bozo may have opened the door to Tony L's testimony offered in proffer to come out before the jury.


Oh yeah, good point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 16, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.
Leonard Padilla was making the rounds talking about the markers between kc and Caylee being so close.  I wonder if it was around this time that Nick Savage was curious?  Could it be LP said he overheard something?  They supposedly were bugging the Anthony's house.  I don't know which came first, LP and his ideas or NS and his suspicions. 

I wish someone who knew DNA could say if the markers between kc and Caylee are so close, could a cousin/uncle/grandfather on Cindy's side be the father?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:30:45 PM

Snipped>>>>

  Baez is asking the witness, who did you think you they asked for the paternity test?  Nick Savage asked her if she could run the result and find out if Lee could be the father of Caylee.  So they ran the test and if he was a possible father they would send it to another lab.  She then reported out that Lee Anthony could be the father of Caylee Anthony.  


This falls right in line with what my sister in law said. (Microbiologist) Although that chart someone posted claimed he could not she said it ruled the opposite that he or George could be and it would take further testing to disprove either of them.

I hate to laugh but I took a lot of crap over that and it turned out true.

Did she indicate that the test showed 14 or higher?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:30:57 PM
Ok now i am more confused lee and GA were excluded they are not the father of Caylee. It was just said in court. Why are some saying they are?

The FBI analyst said Lee was NOT excluded by her analysis, but it would have to be sent to a different testing facility for conclusive results.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 12:31:28 PM
Considering the family's attorney concedes that the defence's strategy was known since February ... would it not make sense that George had voluntarily submitted to paternity tests prior to the trial?  All Caylee's info is on file from when Jesse Grund requested a  paternity test in an attempt to determine if he was Caylee's father?

Janet

George & Lee were EXCLUDED after testing due to what Jesse Grund & Tony L said in their statements to LE.

No - neither of them were excluded according to a specialist in DNA. (my sister in law)  FBI just said the same thing on the stand.

Why? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/
Day 20: Casey Anthony's defense calls 1st witness, unveils new evidence

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/casey-anthony-4pics-1-0616.jpg)
Four weeks into the Casey Anthony trial, it's the defense's turn to present its case. Today, the jury could hear from a surprise witness claiming to be connected to George Anthony.
 ::snipping2::

Oh my....Look at JB writing on the board.  I thought Klaas Photoshopped it and it was make to look like he was writing TOUCH DOWN!




Ok, I'm totally confused.....Why write down touch down???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 16, 2011, 12:33:23 PM

Snipped>>>>

  Baez is asking the witness, who did you think you they asked for the paternity test?  Nick Savage asked her if she could run the result and find out if Lee could be the father of Caylee.  So they ran the test and if he was a possible father they would send it to another lab.  She then reported out that Lee Anthony could be the father of Caylee Anthony.  


This falls right in line with what my sister in law said. (Microbiologist) Although that chart someone posted claimed he could not she said it ruled the opposite that he or George could be and it would take further testing to disprove either of them.

I hate to laugh but I took a lot of crap over that and it turned out true.
I heard wrong,  I thought she said that Lee could NOT be?  Ashton said that neither LA or GA are the father, I'm certain I heard that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 12:34:19 PM
Before I take a break to put on my gravy for sausage & peppers with pasta tonight & an afternoon dip in the pool I would just like to also add this:

I think Bozo may have opened the door to Tony L's testimony offered in proffer to come out before the jury.
But this could be good if the state crosses and gets in some things we know about, right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:34:32 PM

Ok, I'm totally confused.....Why write down touch down???
It actually says touch dna   touch down was someone's thought only


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 16, 2011, 12:34:44 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/
Day 20: Casey Anthony's defense calls 1st witness, unveils new evidence

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/casey-anthony-4pics-1-0616.jpg)
Four weeks into the Casey Anthony trial, it's the defense's turn to present its case. Today, the jury could hear from a surprise witness claiming to be connected to George Anthony.
 ::snipping2::

Oh my....Look at JB writing on the board.  I thought Klaas Photoshopped it and it was make to look like he was writing TOUCH DOWN!




Ok, I'm totally confused.....Why write down touch down???

He is really writing Touch DNA.  I just thought Klaas was poking at us that Bozo thought he 'won' by asking that question.  Like someone said..'can't unring the bell'.  Meaning he got the implication of his question in for the jurors, even if the answer is/was NO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 12:35:21 PM
Ok now i am more confused lee and GA were excluded they are not the father of Caylee. It was just said in court. Why are some saying they are?

The FBI analyst said Lee was NOT excluded by her analysis, but it would have to be sent to a different testing facility for conclusive results.

Why did Lee not request that further tests be conducted prior to trial?  The implication is that a seed of doubt regarding Caylee's paternity as it relates to Lee has been planted.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 12:35:40 PM

Snipped>>>>

  Baez is asking the witness, who did you think you they asked for the paternity test?  Nick Savage asked her if she could run the result and find out if Lee could be the father of Caylee.  So they ran the test and if he was a possible father they would send it to another lab.  She then reported out that Lee Anthony could be the father of Caylee Anthony.  

::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyGavel::

This falls right in line with what my sister in law said. (Microbiologist) Although that chart someone posted claimed he could not she said it ruled the opposite that he or George could be and it would take further testing to disprove either of them.

I hate to laugh but I took a lot of crap over that and it turned out true.
::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:36:50 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
This is me with fbi analyst whos dna #caseyanthony att says found among evdnce. Expect her on stand. http://yfrog.com/kjflkcj


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 12:37:01 PM
This is ridiculously confusing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:37:47 PM

Snipped>>>>

  Baez is asking the witness, who did you think you they asked for the paternity test?  Nick Savage asked her if she could run the result and find out if Lee could be the father of Caylee.  So they ran the test and if he was a possible father they would send it to another lab.  She then reported out that Lee Anthony could be the father of Caylee Anthony.  


This falls right in line with what my sister in law said. (Microbiologist) Although that chart someone posted claimed he could not she said it ruled the opposite that he or George could be and it would take further testing to disprove either of them.

I hate to laugh but I took a lot of crap over that and it turned out true.
I heard wrong,  I thought she said that Lee could NOT be?  Ashton said that neither LA or GA are the father, I'm certain I heard that.

me too Bull


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 12:37:52 PM
Considering the family's attorney concedes that the defence's strategy was known since February ... would it not make sense that George had voluntarily submitted to paternity tests prior to the trial?  All Caylee's info is on file from when Jesse Grund requested a  paternity test in an attempt to determine if he was Caylee's father?

Janet

George & Lee were EXCLUDED after testing due to what Jesse Grund & Tony L said in their statements to LE.
So maybe Cindy was speaking truth when she said something to the effect that Caylee belonged to them all.  OMG

No - neither of them were excluded according to a specialist in DNA. (my sister in law)  FBI just said the same thing on the stand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:38:03 PM
Ok now i am more confused lee and GA were excluded they are not the father of Caylee. It was just said in court. Why are some saying they are?

The FBI analyst said Lee was NOT excluded by her analysis, but it would have to be sent to a different testing facility for conclusive results.

From the paternity tests that were shown here Lee and George are not the father of Caylee. Neither one has the required alleles needed to be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:38:37 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=q0soa.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

http://yfrog.com/gyq0soaj


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 12:39:21 PM

Snipped>>>>

  Baez is asking the witness, who did you think you they asked for the paternity test?  Nick Savage asked her if she could run the result and find out if Lee could be the father of Caylee.  So they ran the test and if he was a possible father they would send it to another lab.  She then reported out that Lee Anthony could be the father of Caylee Anthony.  


This falls right in line with what my sister in law said. (Microbiologist) Although that chart someone posted claimed he could not she said it ruled the opposite that he or George could be and it would take further testing to disprove either of them.

I hate to laugh but I took a lot of crap over that and it turned out true.
I heard wrong,  I thought she said that Lee could NOT be?  Ashton said that neither LA or GA are the father, I'm certain I heard that.

Logic dictates that a laboratory report affirming that LA or GA did not father Caylee would end all discussion and ... the jury could consider paternity a non issue in deliberatins.

Janet
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:40:19 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=q0soa.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

http://yfrog.com/gyq0soaj
GOD bless this man!  He has the patience of a saint. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:40:22 PM
Ok now i am more confused lee and GA were excluded they are not the father of Caylee. It was just said in court. Why are some saying they are?

The FBI analyst said Lee was NOT excluded by her analysis, but it would have to be sent to a different testing facility for conclusive results.

From the paternity tests that were shown here Lee and George are not the father of Caylee. Neither one has the required alleles needed to be.

Does anyone have a playback of when she said that? I may be the only one who did not hear that so I need to listen again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
 BiancaMPrieto Bianca Prieto
Attorney Richard Hale, who called press conf, said Vasco Thompson has sought other counsel. Press conference canceled. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto (http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto)

 ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:40:40 PM
Before I take a break to put on my gravy for sausage & peppers with pasta tonight & an afternoon dip in the pool I would just like to also add this:

I think Bozo may have opened the door to Tony L's testimony offered in proffer to come out before the jury.
But this could be good if the state crosses and gets in some things we know about, right?

Yes, remember what Tony L testified to during the proffer.   He said that Casey NEVER mentioned her father molested her & there was a reference to her brother possibly touching her inappropriately.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:40:52 PM

Snipped>>>>

  Baez is asking the witness, who did you think you they asked for the paternity test?  Nick Savage asked her if she could run the result and find out if Lee could be the father of Caylee.  So they ran the test and if he was a possible father they would send it to another lab.  She then reported out that Lee Anthony could be the father of Caylee Anthony.  


This falls right in line with what my sister in law said. (Microbiologist) Although that chart someone posted claimed he could not she said it ruled the opposite that he or George could be and it would take further testing to disprove either of them.

I hate to laugh but I took a lot of crap over that and it turned out true.

Did she indicate that the test showed 14 or higher?

The FBI analyst or my sister in law?

My SIL had nothing to go by but the chart which was posted on hinkymeter site. At the time there was nothing released by the state on George's DNA, so I questioned if that was accurate information. I sent the chart to my SIL and asked if either of them could be the father. She said either of them could as that chart did not rule out either of them. She said more testing or at least more markers should be in that chart to be accurate. She even questioned if the chart was actual or a made up one claiming it was evidence as it was not in the style used. She was the one who told me about the new testing that quickly caught incest which I posted the info on here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:41:23 PM
BiancaMPrieto Bianca Prieto
Attorney Richard Hale, who called press conf, said Vasco Thompson has sought other counsel. Press conference canceled. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto (http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto)

 ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyEek::


Totally confused but it doesnt change the reality, he has nothing to do with this case or George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 12:42:20 PM
I heard the tail end if what I think was testimony that there was DNA on the tape that didn't match caylee or caseys. Was that what she testified to?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 12:42:23 PM
Bozo knows the test was negative for Lee being the father, he's setting up that it appears abuse may have transpired as a result of them asking.   NO, they asked because speculation was made.   That's it, that's all.
Did Casey say something in the beginning about abuse by Lee and/or George to steer LE in this direction?  I remember there was speculation from jump about paternity, but I can't recall why incest was immmediately thought of.
Leonard Padilla was making the rounds talking about the markers between kc and Caylee being so close.  I wonder if it was around this time that Nick Savage was curious?  Could it be LP said he overheard something?  They supposedly were bugging the Anthony's house.  I don't know which came first, LP and his ideas or NS and his suspicions. 

I wish someone who knew DNA could say if the markers between kc and Caylee are so close, could a cousin/uncle/grandfather on Cindy's side be the father?

I remember LP also saying something like:  They got the results back and George and Lee know.    ???
Leonard and Nick S seemed to be close at that time.  LP often mentioned NS on the Grace show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
BiancaMPrieto Bianca Prieto
Attorney Richard Hale, who called press conf, said Vasco Thompson has sought other counsel. Press conference canceled. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto (http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto)

 ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyEek::


Oh, I so hope he is getting ready to sue bozo for that. At some point this defense team needs to be held accountable for all the things they have done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:42:45 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=aflwj.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

Reverting back to more comforting habits???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:43:45 PM

(http://yfrog.com/gypu1xkj)


VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
#JusticeforCaylee. #HLN #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/gypu1xkj
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Wyks on June 16, 2011, 12:44:10 PM
Judge Eaton says the defense is pointing out that there is lack of evidence in a lot of things.  Prosecution is not having a good day.

I think they are sick and tired of all this crap being slid in backwards by bozo and the judge not stopping it. It is not they are having a bad day but they are pissed off. This should all be stopped.

Yeppers!  I think this is it in a nutshell!  The Judge not stopping it, time after time, is what would pizz me off the most.  Can't say I blame the prosecution for losing tempers.  Not so sure I could sit there and watch the defense getting away with their crap, time after time after time after time.  And all of it so dang obvious.  I love this Judge!  Just do NOT understand why he allows this crap to continue.  It's like watching an obnoxious spoiled lil brat getting their way each day, all day, day after day.  Baez needs a smackdown now! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 12:45:02 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:45:06 PM
BiancaMPrieto Bianca Prieto
Attorney Richard Hale, who called press conf, said Vasco Thompson has sought other counsel. Press conference canceled. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto (http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto)

 ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyEek::


Oh, I so hope he is getting ready to sue bozo for that. At some point this defense team needs to be held accountable for all the things they have done.
I am so hoping that sweet Mr Morgan or Mark N will be his new lawyer.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 12:45:43 PM
I really don't want to end up confusing myself more by asking this... but if Lee and George are related to Caylee (as obviously they are) then their DNA is a partial match for hers anyway, right? So assuming LE has both of their DNA, and obviously they have Caylee's DNA, even if a paternity test wasn't done specifically to see who the father was, wouldn't a basic DNA test show that neither could be 100% excluded?  Or does it just not work that way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 12:47:07 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=aflwj.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

Reverting back to more comforting habits???

that's not comfort, that is her anticipating something that would be in her favor.   Look at the eyes, they are filled with satisfaction & anticipation & shes trying not to smirk.

Earlier I saw her rubbing her hands together  quickly with a smirk when talking to Mason, also anticipatory with what she thinks is positive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 12:47:22 PM
Heck even if the jury believes somehing happened between lee and casey they wld also have to conclude that it wasn't mutual with Casey.  I cld see her trying to seduce her own brother. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:47:24 PM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Okay, so the news conference with the convicted felon who allegedly knows George..no cancelled. Shocking.


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:47:38 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:48:25 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
Family from Orlando releases balloons on anniversary of Caylee's death. #HLN #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/kk9mspgj


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:49:14 PM
that's not comfort, that is her anticipating something that would be in her favor.   Look at the eyes, they are filled with satisfaction & anticipation & shes trying not to smirk.

Earlier I saw her rubbing her hands together  quickly with a smirk when talking to Mason, also anticipatory with what she thinks is positive.
Well, now that you pointed out her eyes, I have to agree with you.  You read people well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
I really don't want to end up confusing myself more by asking this... but if Lee and George are related to Caylee (as obviously they are) then their DNA is a partial match for hers anyway, right? So assuming LE has both of their DNA, and obviously they have Caylee's DNA, even if a paternity test wasn't done specifically to see who the father was, wouldn't a basic DNA test show that neither could be 100% excluded?  Or does it just not work that way?

Exactly - a simple explanation of why that chart shown is not conclusive and more testing had to be done to rule them out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Just to confirm for those wondering..DNA test confirmed Lee was NOT Caylee's father

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:50:18 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
Family from Orlando releases balloons on anniversary of Caylee's death. #HLN #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/kk9mspgj


http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)
What family?  The Anthony's?   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:51:33 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

I thought I did too. I will leave it alone though Lee and George are not the father IMO it has clearly been proven.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:52:10 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
Family from Orlando releases balloons on anniversary of Caylee's death. #HLN #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/kk9mspgj


http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)
What family?  The Anthony's?   ::MonkeyConfused::

click on the yfrog link in that tweet to see the picture


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Wyks on June 16, 2011, 12:52:32 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing the jury's attention
2 minutes ago

He's losing everyone!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

He sure is!  Doesn't this just strengthen the prosecution's side for the jury?  If so much of what the defense says/does is lost on the jury, seems to me that what they will retain will be what the prosecution says/does. 



and the prosecution gets last bat at the inmate with their rebuttal

Thank goodness for that!  From some tweets we've seen, the jury seems drawn to the prosecution, often looking to them when the defense is up. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 12:52:53 PM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony Just to confirm for those wondering..DNA test confirmed Lee was NOT Caylee's father

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)
Did they ever send it to the outside agency to read/confirm that lee wasn't the father?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 12:53:10 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
No Jury... FIREWORKS Paternity tests were requested by FBI investigator... But DNA shows Lee NOT father!

http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)

BBM.....I hope we put that to rest now!  Finally!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:53:22 PM
caseyupdates Casey Anthony Update
RAW VIDEO: Tense Moments Between Casey Defense, Prosecution: Tensions rise after the jury exits for lunch.... http://on.wesh.com/lWheMe

http://twitter.com/#!/caseyupdates (http://twitter.com/#!/caseyupdates)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:53:39 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20503043,00.html


Casey Anthony Trial: Strengths & Weaknesses of the State's Case
BY STEVE HELLING

Over the past 19 days, the State of Florida has called more than 30 witnesses and introduced 315 pieces of evidence against Casey Anthony, the Florida mom accused of murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. Despite the evidence against Anthony, though, some questions remain. Namely, could she go free?

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 12:54:34 PM
caseyupdates Casey Anthony Update
Uncut: Attorneys Argue Over DNA: Jose Baez and Jeff Ashton argue over a small amount of DNA on a shovel. http://on.wesh.com/mJS3PM

http://twitter.com/#!/caseyupdates (http://twitter.com/#!/caseyupdates)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 12:54:47 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.

she is going to sink this ship


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 12:56:26 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
Family from Orlando releases balloons on anniversary of Caylee's death. #HLN #CaseyAnthony http://yfrog.com/kk9mspgj


http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)
What family?  The Anthony's?   ::MonkeyConfused::

click on the yfrog link in that tweet to see the picture
Thanks No Rose.   Awwww.....I'm glad to see people are remembering Caylee today.  It IS ALL ABOUT CAYLEE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 12:57:52 PM
BiancaMPrieto Bianca Prieto
Attorney Richard Hale, who called press conf, said Vasco Thompson has sought other counsel. Press conference canceled. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto (http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto)

 ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyEek::

This day is gonna get stranger isn't it?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 16, 2011, 12:57:57 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=aflwj.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

Reverting back to more comforting habits???


Didn't George refer to himself as the thumb? I remember that Cindy was the index finger, because she likes to point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 12:58:26 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.

she is going to sink this ship

Oh no Farmville lady


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Wyks on June 16, 2011, 12:59:50 PM
BiancaMPrieto Bianca Prieto
Attorney Richard Hale, who called press conf, said Vasco Thompson has sought other counsel. Press conference canceled. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto (http://twitter.com/#!/BiancaMPrieto)

 ::MonkeyEek::    ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyEek::


 ::MonkeyEek:: 

Hmmmm..  This could get interesting! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:00:21 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 01:00:43 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:01:50 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.

she is going to sink this ship

Oh no Farmville lady
Sounds as if she is looking for NO doubt, not reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:03:07 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!! ::MonkeyMad::
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 01:04:29 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: IBE on June 16, 2011, 01:05:08 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=aflwj.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

Reverting back to more comforting habits???

that's not comfort, that is her anticipating something that would be in her favor.   Look at the eyes, they are filled with satisfaction & anticipation & shes trying not to smirk.

Earlier I saw her rubbing her hands together  quickly with a smirk when talking to Mason, also anticipatory with what she thinks is positive.

Her life line on her palm is very deep right down the fate line, so IMO her life is in control by fate and vv.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 16, 2011, 01:05:34 PM

Hi Janet,

This whole situation is so absurd and out of the ordinary, I don't think we can use ordinary thinking nor emotions when viewing the family and their reactions.

I think that once the A's accepted Casey had murdered Caylee and was going to try to bury the family with the accusations against George and Lee..she also came to the conclusion the only way Casey could be doing all this was if she was mentally ill.

Like it or not..Casey is still her daughter and I think that Cindy is trying very hard to appear as if she has unconditional love for Casey..as she did for Caylee.  However, I think she is as torn as ever in her own feelings for her daughter..and rightly so..I can't imagine all the feelings just sitting in the same room with Casey must evoke for her..from love to hate and everything inbetween..and not being able to express those verbally.  Part of me would need to be tyed down so I didn't smack the carp out of her..the other would want to tell her I see your sickness and know you need help.  But were way beyond all that now.

I am sure in their darkest hours the A's blame thenselves that they didn't handle this differently..but that is the past..the guilty party is Casey and she is the party the needs to pay.  The defense should have founda shrink to declare her legally insane 2.5 years ago..people could comprehend and believe that..this circus the jury is viewing they can't .


Gypsy

If Cindy and George had spent the past three years on a mission to have their daughter declared legally insane rather than distancing Casey from implication regarding happenings encompassing the demise of their granddaughter ... I would have been in their corner.  I would be embracing them with compassion.

Janet 



Janet, Cindy & George could not have effected their daughter getting declared legally insane even if that is what they desired.   Fact is, she has not been declared legally insane by medical professionals nor would it have ever occurred by any other medical professional.   Casey is NOT legally insane by any stretch of the imagination nor legal definition of the term.

ITA, and first of all she is by NO means legally insane and had they tried to do that I would be furious and as much as I called them every name in the book for the past 3 yrs behavoir, no one should endure the hell they went thru, grandchild DEAD.....daughter a MURDERING SOCIOPATRH, being screamed at, spit on and bascially prisoners in their own home, so I can't understand why anyone would have compassion for them tring to get her out of this by using an insanity defense (which wouldn't have flown anyway) ::MonkeyNoNo::  I will also say if protesters had been in my yard screaming all day and night I'd act probably the same as they did and heaven forbid anyone spit on me, I'd have to be bailed out myself. I do have some compassion in my haert for this journey thru hell they have lived and can see how denial was a mode of protection, my daughter livbed in denial the entire 11 weeks E was alive, I knew if anything happened it would be a brutally painful path she would have to follow and I was right. ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:06:17 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

The jury was not in the room when she said that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 01:06:38 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.

she is going to sink this ship

Oh no Farmville lady
Sounds as if she is looking for NO doubt, not reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm glad she is taking notes. When they deliberate, the rest of the jury can address each point with her. I would be more worried if she wasn't taking notes and had unanswered questions in her mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 01:07:45 PM
Casey Anthony trial: Attorneys for felon Vasco Thompson cancel news conference

George Anthony's cell phone records show he had contact with Vasco Thompson days before Caylee was reported missing, defense says.

Lawyers representing Orlando felon Vasco Thompson, the latest defense witness in the Casey Anthony trial, cancelled a news conference that was scheduled for this afternoon.

A secretary at attorney Richard Hale's office confirmed the 4 p.m. conference was cancelled because Thompson had found another attorney. Hale's offices said there was no need to hold the conference.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/os-casey-anthony-trial-vasco-thompson20110616,0,4066642.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 01:07:58 PM


 ::MonkeyAngel:: Thinking of sweet Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!! ::MonkeyMad::
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.

...but if it were not for the crap going on...we would be too bored to listen to JOSE. We would be nodding off like those poor jurors.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:09:39 PM

Didn't George refer to himself as the thumb? I remember that Cindy was the index finger, because she likes to point.
Check out the breakroom!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 01:09:42 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

The jury was not in the room when she said that

I know, I was wondering what the confusion was on here?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 01:09:43 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!! ::MonkeyMad::
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


The State could stop it lickity split .... George and Lee could stop it lickity split ... IF conclusive paternity tests were submitted to the court as evidence.

Janet 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:11:27 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

The jury was not in the room when she said that

I know, I was wondering what the confusion was on here?

 :smt102 :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 01:12:13 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



Putting this all a side. And the circus continues.
Back to who killed  Caylee.

Who was the last one seen with Caylee?
Who only used the car in question?
Who partied for 31 days?
Who did NOT call police ever?
Who lied, lied and lied?
Who made newer, bigger and better lies as this case went on?

 ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 01:12:25 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

The jury was not in the room when she said that


Why?  This is crazy!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 16, 2011, 01:14:17 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

Listen again - that's not precisely what he said. Ashton is a trickster... a very clever guy... good thing he's a white hat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:16:03 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!! ::MonkeyMad::
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


oooppppssss well I am glad my thoughts are in line with yours ::MonkeyKiss:: I went to take a shower and all hell broke loose.....I got a little miffed at JP talking to JA in that fashion!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 01:17:11 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

The jury was not in the room when she said that


Why?  This is crazy!!

Because it was testimony that MIGHT have been inflammatory and inadmissable. The judge wanted to hear what was going to be said BEFORE he allowed the jury to hear it. As for the paternity test -- the Prosecution cannot submit DURING the Defense's case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....
I know what you are saying....but yesterday when LDB said that the relationship between Cindy and Casey was the motive....I have to think that the fight will be brought up.  I haven't seen where their relationship was delved into.....except for Amy's comments.  IDK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:19:06 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!! ::MonkeyMad::
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


oooppppssss well I am glad my thoughts are in line with yours ::MonkeyKiss:: I went to take a shower and all hell broke loose.....I got a little miffed at JP talking to JA in that fashion!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
Well, to be fair to CJBP.....JA is sort of a loose cannon today.  He is almost yelling his objections.  His passion is carrying him away, imo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:21:58 PM
I heard Ashton say Lee and George are NOT the father... Why are some on here still saying it doesn't rule them out? Which is it?  ::MonkeyEek::

It is not rock science.  It is so simple.  If the prosecution would submit into evidence paternity test results that conclusively reveals that George and Lee did not father Caylee ... all speculation would cease and ... all doubts in regards to jury deliberations would be alleviated.

Janet



But didn't the last witness say it DID rule out Lee and George? What is the confusion over? They said it in court, Lee and George are NOT the father....

Listen again - that's not precisely what he said. Ashton is a trickster... a very clever guy... good thing he's a white hat.

At 5:50 baez says Caylee was not the offspring of lee anthony


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:22:11 PM
Listen again - that's not precisely what he said. Ashton is a trickster... a very clever guy... good thing he's a white hat.
I do agree with you, but a trickster in a good sort of way, at least I hope so when all is said and done.  I wonder also tho, if he wouldn't play a different game if he wasn't up against the slimy tactics of the defense?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:23:47 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!! ::MonkeyMad::
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


The State could stop it lickity split .... George and Lee could stop it lickity split ... IF conclusive paternity tests were submitted to the court as evidence.

Janet 

true Janet, but Caylee's paternity is not a factor in this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 01:24:24 PM
While under oath why was George, Cindy and Lee not questioned by the prosecutor regarding the alleged confrontation that occurred on the evening of June 15th.  Why was Jesse not called as a State's witness in regards to this issue.

Cindy's testified unchallenged that that evening of June 15th was special ... a time of bonding with Caylee and Casey.  Considering Cindy had learned earlier in the day from her mother that Casey had been stealing from her Grandfather ... I don't think so.

Could it be that this alleged fight between Cindy and Casey was the catalyst to what followed on June 16th?

Janet

+++++

Ex-fiancée Jesse Grund alleged Casey Anthony, mother fought
22 December 2008 @ 01:43 pm EDT


The ex-fiancée of Casey Anthony alleged that she and her mother got into a big argument the night before Casey's daughter Caylee went missing.

Jesse Grund told Sherriff's investigators about the incident in documents released by the State Attorney's Office in late November, saying he learned of it from Casey's brother Lee Anthony.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said, after a review of documents by Central Florida 13 news.

<snipped>

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20081222/fianc-eacutejesse-grund-alleged-casey-anthony-mother-fought.htm



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: texasmom on June 16, 2011, 01:26:53 PM
Id love to take that easel and tablet and shove it right up his stanky azz   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

I've been thinking about this all morning.   ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/simon/263261


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:27:12 PM
some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....
I know what you are saying....but yesterday when LDB said that the relationship between Cindy and Casey was the motive....I have to think that the fight will be brought up.  I haven't seen where their relationship was delved into.....except for Amy's comments.  IDK

Yep and I forgot to add that to the list of things that  seem to have fallen a tad short.....I sure hope all this is clear up and finished on rebuttal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 01:27:27 PM
I guarantee we haven't seen anything yet.  Baez will try every sleazy trick he can.  He must have taken the term "morally bankrupt" from his own bio.  Once an ambulance chaser always an ambulance chaser.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:29:42 PM

I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


oooppppssss well I am glad my thoughts are in line with yours ::MonkeyKiss:: I went to take a shower and all hell broke loose.....I got a little miffed at JP talking to JA in that fashion!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
Well, to be fair to CJBP.....JA is sort of a loose cannon today.  He is almost yelling his objections.  His passion is carrying him away, imo.

LOL...I know....But I love Jeff's passion and JP is soooooooooooooo patient with JB and Mason.....I would like to see him a little more accepting of Jeff's passion....(hey, I am a tad prejudiced towards Jeff) ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 16, 2011, 01:29:57 PM
Considering the family's attorney concedes that the defence's strategy was known since February ... would it not make sense that George had voluntarily submitted to paternity tests prior to the trial?  All Caylee's info is on file from when Jesse Grund requested a  paternity test in an attempt to determine if he was Caylee's father?

Janet

George & Lee were EXCLUDED after testing due to what Jesse Grund & Tony L said in their statements to LE.

No - neither of them were excluded according to a specialist in DNA. (my sister in law)  FBI just said the same thing on the stand.

I thought only Lee submitted DNA for purposes to include a paternity test among other items, but they didn't test GA's DNA for Paternity...also, in the FBI documents it states Lee Anthony is NOT the father and can be excluded. I just read the report 3 nights ago, and will go find it again since I must be losing my mind.

Also IIRC, last week we were talking about Chlorine in salt water pools....their is always chlorine in even salt water pools due to the way the breakdown of chemicals. I can't remember who all was talking about it, but thought it was you , me and CBB......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 01:31:37 PM
Id love to take that easel and tablet and shove it right up his stanky azz   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

I've been thinking about this all morning.   ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/simon/263261


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:32:04 PM
I guarantee we haven't seen anything yet.  Baez will try every sleazy trick he can.  He must have taken the term "morally bankrupt" from his own bio.  Once an ambulance chaser always an ambulance chaser.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree.....we have only just begun!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 01:32:28 PM



Where do you think Bozo is going with the paternity issue? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:32:37 PM
I wonder if it will all be forensics today or will he move on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:34:42 PM



Where do you think Bozo is going with the paternity issue? 

IMO it is only to bring into the jurors minds that something was up with this family that they did DNA on the family. Basically what he said in the opening statements. Not gonna work


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 16, 2011, 01:35:31 PM
I think the judge may have left this on hose b's chair during lunch.


(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/d00f41a6.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Curly on June 16, 2011, 01:35:41 PM
anthonycase WOFL
Some attorneys were yelling @ Baez for cutting in the security line. #caseyanthony #fox35
http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:35:46 PM
Killer on the loose  I mean back at the table


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:35:59 PM
We are back in the courtroom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 01:37:22 PM



Where do you think Bozo is going with the paternity issue? 

IMO it is only to bring into the jurors minds that something was up with this family that they did DNA on the family. Basically what he said in the opening statements. Not gonna work
EXACTLY -- he knows they are not the father -- he just wants to put in the juries mind that they were tested. He wants to show these guys were sleazy enough to arouse suspicion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:37:32 PM
I love how CJBP eyeballs Casey!  Is he thinking Black Widow?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:38:02 PM
Why is JP standing there? ICA is looking at him smiling??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 01:41:20 PM
A family came to the courthouse to release balloons for #CayleeAnthony. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:33 PM

Edit to add link back. MB http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey (http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 01:41:38 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.

she is going to sink this ship

I am tremendously concerned about this juror and think she should not have been allowed to sit on this trial.  IIRC, it was the judge who sought to include her even after she said she could not pass judgement on another.  Really troubled at the time as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 16, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Hi, just a quick note to let you know I will be gone today from about 4:00pm trial time today.  Sorry I won't be typing the last hour of today's trial.  I will be back tomorrow morning.  On the good side, I get my two grand daughters all afternoon, can't wait for huggin' and kissin', I really need it right now.  Sorry for the off-topic, just wanted to let everyone in the trial thread know what is going on.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 01:42:02 PM
I don't know how her stupid parents can still support this POS.  Your child or not...there is a limit!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:42:15 PM
Why is JP standing there? ICA is looking at him smiling??
I could be wrong, but I thought she was smiling at Mason, who was standing in front of CJBP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: dani on June 16, 2011, 01:42:18 PM
A family came to the courthouse to release balloons for #CayleeAnthony. #CaseyAnthony -jfell
by cfnews13casey via twitter at 1:33 PM
Edit to add link back.  MB   http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey (http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey)

That is sweet.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:43:05 PM



Where do you think Bozo is going with the paternity issue? 

will his next question be did you conduct a paternity test on George Anthony?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 01:43:23 PM
Hi, just a quick note to let you know I will be gone today from about 4:00pm trial time today.  Sorry I won't be typing the last hour of today's trial.  I will be back tomorrow morning.  On the good side, I get my two grand daughters all afternoon, can't wait for huggin' and kissin', I really need it right now.  Sorry for the off-topic, just wanted to let everyone in the trial thread know what is going on.  ::MonkeyKiss::
Thank you for all the recaps, Magic.  Love up your babies...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:43:36 PM
Why is JP standing there? ICA is looking at him smiling??
I could be wrong, but I thought she was smiling at Mason, who was standing in front of CJBP.

Oh I was like no she isn't ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:43:48 PM
I don't know how her stupid parents can still support this POS.  Your child or not...there is a limit!!
There is a big difference in loving your daughter and supporting her heinous crime.  They have thrown Caylee under the bus, along with countless other innocents, due to their support.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: scrappysniffer on June 16, 2011, 01:44:25 PM
Thank you Magic...enjoy your beautiful grandchildren.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 01:46:13 PM



Where do you think Bozo is going with the paternity issue? 

IMO it is only to bring into the jurors minds that something was up with this family that they did DNA on the family. Basically what he said in the opening statements. Not gonna work
EXACTLY -- he knows they are not the father -- he just wants to put in the juries mind that they were tested. He wants to show these guys were sleazy enough to arouse suspicion.


Thanks for your answers...

I guess I am just hoping that the jurors have already made up their mind and that none of this crap with change their minds. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 01:47:30 PM
I don't know how her stupid parents can still support this POS.  Your child or not...there is a limit!!
There is a big difference in loving your daughter and supporting her heinous crime.  They have thrown Caylee under the bus, along with countless other innocents, due to their support.
What I don't comprehend is how they can "unconditionally" love someone who is actively trying to destroy them.  Also, how can Casey just sit there when they are talking about her sluttiness, not knowing who Caylee's father was, and trying to pin it on her own family?  I'm with you all.  It is beyond all imagining.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 01:47:45 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Defense asked FBI whether she ran a test to determine whether Lee is Caylee's father.. State objected and Perry lectured Baez

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Baez said in his opening statement that Lee wanted to follow in the steps of his father but didn't go as far as George did..(not verbatim, but close) so this was clearly a means to give misinformation to the jury.....IMO we are gonna see a lot of that!! ::MonkeyMad::
I posted the same thing Sunny.  So sad to see this crap going on.


The State could stop it lickity split .... George and Lee could stop it lickity split ... IF conclusive paternity tests were submitted to the court as evidence.

Janet 

true Janet, but Caylee's paternity is not a factor in this case.

It is a factor if the jury thinks it is factor.  In his opening statement Jose Baez justifies why Casey was capable of turning off emotions while living the good life in the 30 days following the demise of her little girl.  The justification was that Casey was sexually abused from an early age by her own father.

The jury needs official affirmation that George Anthony is not the father of Casey.  If this affirmation is not forthcoming by the State ... the jury is left with "a reasonable doubt".  My question is "Why is this official affirmation" not submitted into evidence?"

Janet
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 01:47:49 PM
anddd he again just tried to get in what the judge clearly told him he couldn't!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 01:48:30 PM
Hi, just a quick note to let you know I will be gone today from about 4:00pm trial time today.  Sorry I won't be typing the last hour of today's trial.  I will be back tomorrow morning.  On the good side, I get my two grand daughters all afternoon, can't wait for huggin' and kissin', I really need it right now.  Sorry for the off-topic, just wanted to let everyone in the trial thread know what is going on.  ::MonkeyKiss::

thanks for all you do...I send your reports daily to a friend who is not able to watch...she appreciates them greatly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: can on June 16, 2011, 01:48:46 PM
I think Baaz wants the jury to know that although the present witness did some tests on paternity, they did not show paternity because they were preliminary and would have had to been send on to someone else for more refined testing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 16, 2011, 01:48:47 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=aflwj.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

Reverting back to more comforting habits???


Didn't George refer to himself as the thumb? I remember that Cindy was the index finger, because she likes to point.

Memories of defense opening statements.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 01:49:25 PM
anddd he again just tried to get in what the judge clearly told him he couldn't!

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 01:49:44 PM
I don't know how her stupid parents can still support this POS.  Your child or not...there is a limit!!
There is a big difference in loving your daughter and supporting her heinous crime.  They have thrown Caylee under the bus, along with countless other innocents, due to their support.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 01:50:06 PM

Memories of defense opening statements.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Gross!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: can on June 16, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
I think Baaz wants the jury to know that although the present witness did some tests on paternity, they did not show paternity because they were preliminary and would have had to been send on to someone else for more refined testing.

TURBOTHINK - I haven't explained myself very well, but isn't this what you have been saying all along?  tia.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 01:50:57 PM

Memories of defense opening statements.
I had the action in mind when I posted my comment, but was NOT even thinking of OS!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 01:51:06 PM
some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....

And she washed the kinife, I'm trying to figure out when she had all this time to do this in the mist of what was transpriing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 16, 2011, 01:51:14 PM
Cross with Jeff........... GOOD!!   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 01:51:38 PM
I think Baaz wants the jury to know that although the present witness did some tests on paternity, they did not show paternity because they were preliminary and would have had to been send on to someone else for more refined testing.

Why was further testing not conducted?  Why stop at the preliminary testing?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 01:53:26 PM
bump...



 ::MonkeyAngel:: Thinking of sweet Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


That was so sweet of that family to release the balloons for Caylee... I lit a few more candles for Caylee, especially today ♥♥♥


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: can on June 16, 2011, 01:54:31 PM
I think Baaz wants the jury to know that although the present witness did some tests on paternity, they did not show paternity because they were preliminary and would have had to been send on to someone else for more refined testing.

Why was further testing not conducted?  Why stop at the preliminary testing?

Janet

That witness does not do paternity testing in detail.  They would have had to be sent elsewhere and I expect the State would have had to request this.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
Go Jeff!!

can you say backfired Baez? Good job and this is only your second witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: can on June 16, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....

And she washed the kinife, I'm trying to figure out when she had all this time to do this in the mist of what was transpriing.

It was done on the day the car was ret'd to the A.s garage.  I believe she washed these items after Geo. went back to work and before she herself ret'd to work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 01:56:36 PM
Go Jeff!!

can you say backfired Baez? Good job and this is only your second witness.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: can on June 16, 2011, 01:59:12 PM
Thanks Magic.  Enjoy your grands!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
Go Jeff!!

can you say backfired Baez? Good job and this is only your second witness.

 ::rhino::

I love it Jeff is so eloquent. He really just seems like a down to earth guy.

Baez stumbles through his whole direct and he told TruTV he was a DNA expert lol and also took a course on blood splatter  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 02:02:41 PM
Go Jeff!!

can you say backfired Baez? Good job and this is only your second witness.

 ::rhino::

I love it Jeff is so eloquent. He really just seems like a down to earth guy.

Baez stumbles through his whole direct and he told TruTV he was a DNA expert lol and also took a course on blood splatter  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Is he Dexter now?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 16, 2011, 02:03:12 PM
bump...



 ::MonkeyAngel:: Thinking of sweet Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


That was so sweet of that family to release the balloons for Caylee... I lit a few more candles for Caylee, especially today ♥♥♥

One would think the defense would have dressed their inmate in more appropriate colors than white.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 02:03:13 PM
Regarding FV lady....she says she can't judge people.  She took no notes when the State presented their case....the State being the ones judging Casey.  Now she takes notes when the defense defends Casey.   I don't like this at all.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
The Chart

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 02:04:04 PM
bump...



 ::MonkeyAngel:: Thinking of sweet Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


That was so sweet of that family to release the balloons for Caylee... I lit a few more candles for Caylee, especially today ♥♥♥

One would think the defense would have dressed their inmate in more appropriate colors than white.   ::MonkeyMad::
The virginal look.  Yeah right.....so far off it isn't even funny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 02:04:11 PM
some things are bothering me.....and it might be just that I am mixing things up...so bear with me and feel free to correct me if I am in error

when Cindy was being questioned by the State it was brought out that she cleaned the car, sprayed with Fabreeze and even sprayed the Momma doll.....but it was not brought out that she washed KC's pant

the last night with KC and Caylee Cindy says was a nice night...the state did not ask about the reported fight

the blanket was not brought up being found with Caylee - so Cindy was not asked about replacing the blanket

Cindy was asked about the missing teddy bear but Linda stopped short of asking her if she ever found the teddy bear

GA was not questioned about the reported fight that last night

there seems to be a number of things that just fell a tad short for me??

I am beginning to think the state has made some agreement with the A's.....and this also reinforces my feelings that they will never be prosecuted for lying to the LE, destroying evidence etc....

And she washed the kinife, I'm trying to figure out when she had all this time to do this in the mist of what was transpriing.

It was done on the day the car was ret'd to the A.s garage.  I believe she washed these items after Geo. went back to work and before she herself ret'd to work.

It just doesn't make sense that you have a car that smells like death, you haven't seen your daughter or granddaughter for a month and your concern is cleaning the car? George says when he opened the trunk he was praying Casey and Caylee weren't dead inside, he's a cop and knew something wasn't right yet he and Cindy went into cover Casey's azz mode immediately and cleaned a crime scene that may have lead to what happened to Caylee sooner, just makes me so mad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:04:23 PM
O/T Mods - there are 2 Murder Trial - Day 20 threads.

Thank you.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 02:04:43 PM
I think Baaz wants the jury to know that although the present witness did some tests on paternity, they did not show paternity because they were preliminary and would have had to been send on to someone else for more refined testing.

Why was further testing not conducted?  Why stop at the preliminary testing?

Janet

That witness does not do paternity testing in detail.  They would have had to be sent elsewhere and I expect the State would have had to request this.



Why wasn't this done?   Lippman claims that Cindy and George were informed of the defence's strategy in February.  Why was George not prepared with a conclusive paternity report that would clear him of Baez's insinuations?

Could it be that the Anthonys are one with the defence's strategy to create "reasonable doubt" in jury deliberations?  Could it be all about attempting to save their daughter from death penalty/LWOP?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:05:24 PM
Regarding FV lady....she says she can't judge people.  She took no notes when the State presented their case....the State being the ones judging Casey.  Now she takes notes when the defense defends Casey.   I don't like this at all.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me either almost like writing down points to believe and argue for the defense during deliberations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:05:40 PM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
Jurors 5, 4 and 3 exchange whispers during the sidebar, again. #CaseyAnthony trial live on #HLN.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 02:05:50 PM
Is there a verdict on the check fraud case? And if on the off chance she was found not guilty in this case, would she still have to serve time b/c of the check frauds?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 02:06:25 PM
bump...



 ::MonkeyAngel:: Thinking of sweet Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


That was so sweet of that family to release the balloons for Caylee... I lit a few more candles for Caylee, especially today ♥♥♥

One would think the defense would have dressed their inmate in more appropriate colors than white.   ::MonkeyMad::
The virginal look.  Yeah right.....so far off it isn't even funny.
Like when you call a VERY large person "tiny"!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:06:29 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
When a body decomposes the DNA breaks down...BIG point on cross. #CaseyAnthony #HLN

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 02:07:04 PM
Regarding FV lady....she says she can't judge people.  She took no notes when the State presented their case....the State being the ones judging Casey.  Now she takes notes when the defense defends Casey.   I don't like this at all.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

If she does "sink the ship", as another monkey said, can JP question why she did not take any notes during the States' presentation?   Potential mistrial??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TexasMonkey on June 16, 2011, 02:07:18 PM
Or she could be taking notes now because the defense is so confusing and the prosecution wasn't. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 02:07:22 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Witness told state dna decomposes along with body so don't expect to find dna in decomposition fluid
1 minute ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: can on June 16, 2011, 02:07:26 PM
Serenity I agree, it makes me mad too!  ::MonkeyMad::

It makes sense if Cindy was frenzied and trying to clean up to protect her daughter.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:07:46 PM
Is there a verdict on the check fraud case? And if on the off chance she was found not guilty in this case, would she still have to serve time b/c of the check frauds?

I think she plead guilty IIRC and she is serving her time for whatever sentence she got now so it will be timed served IIRC?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:07:54 PM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony It's almost as if Ashton is trying to say, Okay everyone, Baez confused you..now I'll clear this up.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 02:08:27 PM
Is there a verdict on the check fraud case? And if on the off chance she was found not guilty in this case, would she still have to serve time b/c of the check frauds?

I think she plead guilty IIRC and she is serving her time for whatever sentence she got now so it will be timed served IIRC?

Do u know how much time it is supposed to be?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:08:48 PM
 anthonycase WOFL
Jurors are looking at the spectators in sidebar. I wonder if our faces are beginning to look familiar to them???.. #caseyanthony #fox35

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:09:20 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Witness told state dna decomposes along with body so don't expect to find dna in decomposition fluid

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 02:09:42 PM
bump...



 ::MonkeyAngel:: Thinking of sweet Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


That was so sweet of that family to release the balloons for Caylee... I lit a few more candles for Caylee, especially today ♥♥♥

One would think the defense would have dressed their inmate in more appropriate colors than white.   ::MonkeyMad::
The virginal look.  Yeah right.....so far off it isn't even funny.
She's a virgin alright, she's just not very good at it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 02:10:08 PM
anthonycase WOFL
Jurors are looking at the spectators in sidebar. I wonder if our faces are beginning to look familiar to them???.. #caseyanthony #fox35

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)

Wonder if the jurors know the spectators are tweeting about them?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 02:10:12 PM
The Chart

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss174/northernrose/1c.jpg)


Linda looks like she is daydreaming...

or irritated...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:10:16 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Lengthy sidebar has jurors watching attorneys and rocking in their chairs. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 02:10:33 PM
Is there a verdict on the check fraud case? And if on the off chance she was found not guilty in this case, would she still have to serve time b/c of the check frauds?

I think she plead guilty IIRC and she is serving her time for whatever sentence she got now so it will be timed served IIRC?
Actually, when she plead guilty, her time spent in jail was time served for her check fraud case at that time. So time was served way back when.  She is currently in jail now due to no bond due to her charges now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 02:10:34 PM
Or she could be taking notes now because the defense is so confusing and the prosecution wasn't. 

maybe she is doodleing out of boredom. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 02:10:45 PM


The State could stop it lickity split .... George and Lee could stop it lickity split ... IF conclusive paternity tests were submitted to the court as evidence.

Janet 

true Janet, but Caylee's paternity is not a factor in this case.

It is a factor if the jury thinks it is factor.  In his opening statement Jose Baez justifies why Casey was capable of turning off emotions while living the good life in the 30 days following the demise of her little girl.  The justification was that Casey was sexually abused from an early age by her own father.

The jury needs official affirmation that George Anthony is not the father of Casey.  If this affirmation is not forthcoming by the State ... the jury is left with "a reasonable doubt".  My question is "Why is this official affirmation" not submitted into evidence?"

Janet


we will just have to agree to disagree on this point, Janet..since neither of us really know what the jury is thinking we could discuss this to the ends of the earth and it would still only be our opinions ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 02:10:56 PM
bump...



 ::MonkeyAngel:: Thinking of sweet Caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


That was so sweet of that family to release the balloons for Caylee... I lit a few more candles for Caylee, especially today ♥♥♥

One would think the defense would have dressed their inmate in more appropriate colors than white.   ::MonkeyMad::
The virginal look.  Yeah right.....so far off it isn't even funny.
She's a virgin alright, she's just not very good at it.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:11:34 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#Caseyanthony The thing is, I spoke to body language and handwriting experts and they believe Lee is somewhat deceptive. Maybe he has info?

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: VinceVixen on June 16, 2011, 02:11:47 PM
Is there a verdict on the check fraud case? And if on the off chance she was found not guilty in this case, would she still have to serve time b/c of the check frauds?

I think she plead guilty IIRC and she is serving her time for whatever sentence she got now so it will be timed served IIRC?
Actually, when she plead guilty, her time spent in jail was time served for her check fraud case at that time. So time was served way back when.  She is currently in jail now due to no bond due to her charges now.

So she already served the time for that case? How long was time supposed to be served?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Girlzrock on June 16, 2011, 02:11:48 PM
Or she could be taking notes now because the defense is so confusing and the prosecution wasn't. 

Just what I was thinking, TexasMonkey!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: can on June 16, 2011, 02:12:32 PM
I think Baaz wants the jury to know that although the present witness did some tests on paternity, they did not show paternity because they were preliminary and would have had to been send on to someone else for more refined testing.

Why was further testing not conducted?  Why stop at the preliminary testing?

Janet

That witness does not do paternity testing in detail.  They would have had to be sent elsewhere and I expect the State would have had to request this.



Why wasn't this done?   Lippman claims that Cindy and George were informed of the defence's strategy in February.  Why was George not prepared with a conclusive paternity report that would clear him of Baez's insinuations?

Could it be that the Anthonys are one with the defence's strategy to create "reasonable doubt" in jury deliberations?  Could it be all about attempting to save their daughter from death penalty/LWOP?

Janet

Janet, I don't know why this wasn't done by the State.  May not be in the interest of the State's case.

If George wished to prepare himself with a paternity report, it's possible he has done that.  Don't know how he'd get it in though. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:12:48 PM
Is there a verdict on the check fraud case? And if on the off chance she was found not guilty in this case, would she still have to serve time b/c of the check frauds?

I think she plead guilty IIRC and she is serving her time for whatever sentence she got now so it will be timed served IIRC?

Do u know how much time it is supposed to be?

Time served plus probation if she gets out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 02:12:54 PM
Serenity I agree, it makes me mad too!  ::MonkeyMad::

It makes sense if Cindy was frenzied and trying to clean up to protect her daughter.   ::MonkeyMad::

Disgusting isn't it? If any of them had their way, there would be no justice for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 02:13:01 PM
I'd really like to know if we have spent more time at sidebar than actually presenting the case.  It sure seems that way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: ISpy on June 16, 2011, 02:13:08 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.
Did we know about blood on these items?  Wouldn't this point to willful murder?  If Caylee drowned, no blood, if Caylee duct taped and chloroformed, no blood!  Is this a new theory posited by the defense?  Color me confused!

It might point to my original theory that KC went off on little Caylee beating her. That would fall in line with the tooth being inside the skull when it was found. I have always wondered about that.

There would have been a lot of blood if it was on the shirt, the blanket, the laundry bag.
Good afternoon!  Catching up a little ans saw this. TURBO, I've got a pretty strong stomach, but the car seat evidence pics made me feel sick.  I know a couple with an older version of that car seat and the number and location of the stains showing up during the testing was sickening.  If Casey took Caylee from the house after the alleged June 15th evening fight, Caylee would have been in the car seat.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:15:29 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:15:31 PM
Is there a verdict on the check fraud case? And if on the off chance she was found not guilty in this case, would she still have to serve time b/c of the check frauds?

I think she plead guilty IIRC and she is serving her time for whatever sentence she got now so it will be timed served IIRC?
Actually, when she plead guilty, her time spent in jail was time served for her check fraud case at that time. So time was served way back when.  She is currently in jail now due to no bond due to her charges now.

So she already served the time for that case? How long was time supposed to be served?

 sentence was for 412 days of jail time, and one additional year of probation should she get out of jail any time soon


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: can on June 16, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
Serenity I agree, it makes me mad too!  ::MonkeyMad::

It makes sense if Cindy was frenzied and trying to clean up to protect her daughter.   ::MonkeyMad::

Disgusting isn't it? If any of them had their way, there would be no justice for Caylee.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:17:08 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Juror 4 now reviewing her notes...

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:17:51 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
A lot of people in the gallery watch the jury during sidebars. Others look at #CaseyAnthony who is talking w/ Dorothy Sims -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:17:53 PM
It was my understanding that LA and GA were eliminated as possible father by the routine DNA test done on all close parties and not a separate "paternity" test as Baez is pretending.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 02:17:54 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  POSITIVE for presence of blood but no farther testing could be done - insufficient amounts

{Possible evidence of blood }

Positive for shirt, blanket and laundry bag for presence of blood. This changes things whether the defense realizes it or not.
Did we know about blood on these items?  Wouldn't this point to willful murder?  If Caylee drowned, no blood, if Caylee duct taped and chloroformed, no blood!  Is this a new theory posited by the defense?  Color me confused!

It might point to my original theory that KC went off on little Caylee beating her. That would fall in line with the tooth being inside the skull when it was found. I have always wondered about that.

There would have been a lot of blood if it was on the shirt, the blanket, the laundry bag.
Good afternoon!  Catching up a little ans saw this. TURBO, I've got a pretty strong stomach, but the car seat evidence pics made me feel sick.  I know a couple with an older version of that car seat and the number and location of the stains showing up during the testing was sickening.  If Casey took Caylee from the house after the alleged June 15th evening fight, Caylee would have been in the car seat.  JMO
I've had nightmares that Casey snaps, starts screaming "Stop it, stop it, I'll give you something to cry about", smacking the holy hell out of Caylee, and then chloroforming her to get her to be quiet.  I had one last night.  I've always thought the A's protested too much about how Casey only disciplined Caylee with words. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: iowagirl on June 16, 2011, 02:17:56 PM
Serenity I agree, it makes me mad too!  ::MonkeyMad::

It makes sense if Cindy was frenzied and trying to clean up to protect her daughter.   ::MonkeyMad::

Disgusting isn't it? If any of them had their way, there would be no justice for Caylee.

The other option is that she's a "stress cleaner".  When I'm really really stressed out, my house is SPOTLESS.  I clean.  I organize.  I bake.  Anything to keep my mind off of what's really bothering me.  Cindy saw mess.. she went into clean up mode instead of processing what was really going on.  DENIAL.

Or.. she was frenzied to protect her daughter. 

It's really hard to tell IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:18:30 PM
CaseyAnthonyCh9 Casey Anthony WFTV
We've posted all the video from before lunch in today's #Caseyanthony trial. http://t.co/TbnTDdZ

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 02:18:50 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Juror 4 now reviewing her notes...

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)
Good!  Maybe she has realized Baez is leading her down a fictitious path.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 02:19:04 PM
George's Paternity is not REALLY the issue -- the defense KNOWS he is not. They are only trying to stress to the jury that George's (or Lee's) behavior/reputation made these two "POSSIBLE" suspects in LE's minds. They are trying to stress that people thought there was a distinct possibility of incest in the family. The Defense could care less that they were not actually the father.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:19:09 PM
TrialNotes Trial Notes
Sidebar is over. But judge calls attys back (without court reporter this time). #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:19:45 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Juror 6 (man) is leaning his head down with eyes closed during this sidebar. He normally looks very tired in the mornings. #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 02:20:07 PM
Serenity I agree, it makes me mad too!  ::MonkeyMad::

It makes sense if Cindy was frenzied and trying to clean up to protect her daughter.   ::MonkeyMad::

All I keep thinking about is SinSin saying "I love you" to KC in court the other day... Dear God, your evil daughter killed your granddaughter, is framing your husband in more ways than one, stole money from your family, is and has destroyed your family and you can look at her with l♥ve. 

As mother's we love our children, no matter how bad they behave, but I know that I would not be able to say those words to my daughter, if, God forbid, I am in her situation. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:20:08 PM
Oh please let's go!!! 

Call your next witness already


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:20:18 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Many are releasing balloons today to remember #CayleeAnthony: http://goo.gl/hXbHr

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:20:39 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Juror 4 now reviewing her notes...

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)
Good!  Maybe she has realized Baez is leading her down a fictitious path.

Shoot, that was extremely clear to a sleepy snail by his opening & foul mouth


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:20:56 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton and Baez walk away with big smiles on their faces. Court continues. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 02:21:06 PM
I'd really like to know if we have spent more time at sidebar than actually presenting the case.  It sure seems that way.

I'd bet at least 1/2 of the time has been spent on sidebars, proffers and other interruption



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:21:37 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
It appears about 20 min of my tweets didn't go out.. Sorry. Noticed during long sidebar #caseyanthony jurors 14 15 16 17 were chatting.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 16, 2011, 02:21:40 PM
It was my understanding that LA and GA were eliminated as possible father by the routine DNA test done on all close parties and not a separate "paternity" test as Baez is pretending.

Mine too, but I found this from th HM and it was taken from discovery and shows the required "marker" for Caylee's father is not found in GA's DNA....very interesting link and a chart

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2009/10/31/about-caylees-parentage/

Anyway all I had to do was plug in George’s DNA profile into the DNA Parentage Test Report at the right Locus locations and right away you can tell that it’s not possible for him to be Caylee’s bio dad. Here’s a list that proves George can’t be the father: Locus D8S1179 bio dad has to be 12 George is 14. D21S11 bio dad has to be 28 George is 30. D7S820 bio dad has to be an 11 George is a 12. D3S1358 bio dad has to be a 14 George is 15,19. THO1 bio dad has to be a 7 George is 6,8. D16S539 bio dad has to be a 13 George is a 12. VWA bio dad has to be a 17 George is 18,19. TPOX bio dad has to be an 8 George is 9,11. D18S51 bio dad has to be a 16 George is 14,17. FGA bio dad has to be a 24 George is 22,25. The last one that is only on the FBI reports and not on the DNA Parentage Test Report is Locus D7S820 showing that bio dad has to be an 11 and George is a 12. I’m hoping that you could [put up a chart and] a story on your blog so people like me that can’t dismiss that notion without seeing proof can finally put the issue to rest too.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:21:46 PM
Bozo is being ridiculous keeping this witness all day


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 02:24:20 PM
Bozo is being ridiculous keeping this witness all day

 ::rhino:: stall stall stall... the defense is so pathetic. all they know how to do is stall and create gimmicks to prolong this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:24:23 PM
Nobody in the family has a 16, 17 at the D3

It was the lab person!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 16, 2011, 02:24:34 PM
Quote
Bozo is being ridiculous keeping this witness all day

I'm not watching but my guess is he will continue to do that every day to every witness. Sigh.

I can't imagine anyone thinking the defense is having a good day. They need imodium for Bozo's mouth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: kkate on June 16, 2011, 02:25:29 PM
FTLOG CAn this lady not just say "Yes"or "No".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:25:29 PM
Drive it home Ashton & put this witness out of her misery


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Today's Pictionary challenge

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 02:25:43 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Juror 4 now reviewing her notes...

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Good!  Maybe she has realized Baez is leading her down a fictitious path.

Shoot, that was extremely clear to a sleepy snail by his opening & foul mouth
FV lady may be that sleepy snail!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 02:25:55 PM
can anyone tell me what the 16, 17 talk is about?  is it in regards to the duct tape and DNA?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 02:26:01 PM
Bozo is being ridiculous keeping this witness all day

I agree.. this is painfully boring as hell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:26:21 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Deputy just told someone in the courtroom to sit up. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:26:40 PM
Nobody in the family has a 16, 17 at the D3

It was the lab person!

Ding Ding Ding move on!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:26:45 PM
George Anthony excluded


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:27:07 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Judge Perry tells Baez to get to the point. his last question was supposed to clarify things. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 02:27:17 PM


What I would like to know is why this witness, when asked with a yes or no question, is allowed to elaborate her answers?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: AZSunny on June 16, 2011, 02:27:21 PM
George Anthony excluded

Go Pros!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Drive it home Ashton & put this witness out of her misery

and us

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:28:11 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton says reality is nothing can be taken from this correct? Seubert says the results in her report showed "inconclusive"

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 02:28:21 PM
Baez loooks agitated.  Casey is looking to her left - I wonder at what or who?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:28:28 PM
can anyone tell me what the 16, 17 talk is about?  is it in regards to the duct tape and DNA?

They are talking about the DNA left on the duct tape by a lab worker


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:28:32 PM
Drive it home Ashton & put this witness out of her misery

and us

pb

So true!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: snoopy on June 16, 2011, 02:28:32 PM
Bozo's got nothin.

Ashton rocks.

Eyes glazing back over now

Carry on

Come across


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:29:12 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
If I get #caseyanthony defense, right now fbi expert is saying you can't EXCLUDE that another DNA source was on duct tape (maybe george)

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton asked if George Anthony could be excluded? Her answer was it's "inconclusive" #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:30:29 PM
Would be no blood. Would be no DNA after 6 months in a swampy area


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 02:30:29 PM
so the witness didn't even really expect to find DNA on the tape?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:30:39 PM
Gooooooooooooooooo Ashton

"The expectation would be to find it on the sticky tape but with the information of exposure & length of time, the expectation was no here or there."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:31:09 PM
so the witness didn't even really expect to find DNA on the tape?

NOPE!  totally not given the circumstances


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:31:43 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton asked if George Anthony could be excluded? Her answer was it's "inconclusive" #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Huh I thought they just said he was excluded?

He has to be he does not have a 16,17 at D3


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:32:06 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton says just because there was no blood at a crime scene doesn't mean there wasn't a crime. Seubert agrees #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 02:32:06 PM
so the witness didn't even really expect to find DNA on the tape?

NOPE!  totally not given the circumstances

geez they need to wrap it up then.  Wowzers
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 16, 2011, 02:32:08 PM
Hope the court reporter is wearing comfortable shoes.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:32:09 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton asked if George Anthony could be excluded? Her answer was it's "inconclusive" #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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?   D3 it was stated that he was excluded


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Girlzrock on June 16, 2011, 02:32:11 PM
Drive it home Ashton & put this witness out of her misery

Capp, don't you mean:  "Put this witness out of OUR misery"?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 02:32:20 PM
George Anthony excluded
I zoned out... so he isnt the daddy?  whatashocker


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 02:32:45 PM
Bozo's got nothin.

Ashton rocks.

Eyes glazing back over now

Carry on

Come across

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Snoop Dawg in da house! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
 OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Sidebar (6) called in #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
George's Paternity is not REALLY the issue -- the defense KNOWS he is not. They are only trying to stress to the jury that George's (or Lee's) behavior/reputation made these two "POSSIBLE" suspects in LE's minds. They are trying to stress that people thought there was a distinct possibility of incest in the family. The Defense could care less that they were not actually the father.

I agree.  It is all about the defence creating a reasonable doubt in jury deliberations.

What I cannot comprehend is why the State did not call a witness who was qualified to clear up any reasonable doubt by citing the conclusive results of a paternity test.

In other words ... this topic could have been a non-issue early on in the trial.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Blonde on June 16, 2011, 02:33:24 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 02:33:43 PM
I am seriously wondering HOW Baez can keep getting away with all the eye rolling and facial expressions he keeps giving to Ashton??? The are sooooo dramatic and off putting, how can he keep doing them?? I really don't understand!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:33:48 PM
Drive it home Ashton & put this witness out of her misery

Capp, don't you mean:  "Put this witness out of OUR misery"?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Its gonna be a few agonizing days...at this rate weeks  ::MonkeyNoNo::    Misery needs a margarita, serving now  ::monkeymargarita::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 02:33:52 PM
Drive it home Ashton & put this witness out of her misery

Capp, don't you mean:  "Put this witness out of OUR misery"?  ::MonkeyTongue::
Add me to that list.  I wish the jury would stand as one and shout, "Get to the Point, Mr. Bayezz!"  Almost worth a mistrial! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Riley on June 16, 2011, 02:34:11 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton asked if George Anthony could be excluded? Her answer was it's "inconclusive" #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Huh I thought they just said he was excluded?

He has to be he does not have a 16,17 at D3

George is excluded because he doesn't have a 17, however she meant you can not assume the 16 is there or not since the peak too low.  So there could be a second number along with the first, they just don't know.  So she excluded Casey and Cailee with Bozo and now they excluded George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:34:50 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Today's arguments/sidebars prove the duct tape is, as expected, a critical piece of evidence for both state and defense. #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Riley on June 16, 2011, 02:35:22 PM
well, I mean I think that's what she meant.  She is trying so hard not to help it is impossible to tell!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 02:35:29 PM
I can't see the DUMBFENSE being done next week.. not with BOZO takinf freaking forever with witness. UGH  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:35:37 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
News 13's Adam Longo is keeping a sidebar stopwatch. Watch @cfnews13 every sidebar for a time!! More than 30 min so far!! #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:35:52 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton asked if George Anthony could be excluded? Her answer was it's "inconclusive" #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Huh I thought they just said he was excluded?

He has to be he does not have a 16,17 at D3

George is excluded because he doesn't have a 17, however she meant you can not assume the 16 is there or not since the peak too low.  So there could be a second number along with the first, they just don't know.  So she excluded Casey and Cailee with Bozo and now they excluded George.

 ::rhino::   thats how I heard it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:36:11 PM
MarthaSugalski Martha Sugalski
Our legal expert says prosecution should end the questioning - proves Bae'z point of "lack of evidence"

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 02:36:13 PM
well, I mean I think that's what she meant.  She is trying so hard not to help it is impossible to tell!
I feel that, too.  I wonder if Casey is annoyed that Baez went to dinner with her last night?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 02:36:55 PM
I am confused. Was ANY DNA actually found on the stuff found with her remains?  If not, how does that at all help the defense unless she bagged herself and hopped out there?  I don't get what points they are trying to score.

Why doesn't Baez sit down, he needs to quit perching.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:36:58 PM
BOZO sit down...your bite is not even a bug sting   Ashton is mopping the floor with you, take it  ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:37:24 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: DNA in heat, Fl. conditions would degrade over time. #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:37:44 PM
MarthaSugalski Martha Sugalski
Our legal expert says prosecution should end the questioning - proves Bae'z point of "lack of evidence"

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Disagree there is something else they are trying to get from this witness


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 02:37:46 PM
I am confused. Was ANY DNA actually found on the stuff found with her remains?  If not, how does that at all help the defense unless she bagged herself and hopped out there?  I don't get what points they are trying to score.

Why doesn't Baez sit down, he needs to quit perching.
Does he need to go the men's room?  He looks very awkward...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 02:37:49 PM
Or she could be taking notes now because the defense is so confusing and the prosecution wasn't. 

I agree with you on that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 02:38:37 PM
Do we have anyone in Orlando who would be willing to go to the court house and get the sidebar documents......I will gladly DONATE to a fund to pay for it!! I think we could gain a lot of knowledge as well as getting a lot of chuckles!!  ANYONE???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 02:38:40 PM
FTLOG, I cannot believe how long this witness has been on the stand to say absolutely nothing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
OMG does he not know when enough is enough! ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:38:54 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: Marrow from tibia used to generate DNA profile. #CaseyAnthony


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 02:39:06 PM
Can we move on to the next witness please. (http://i51.tinypic.com/2lc5nck.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:39:23 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton asks what she was told about area where remains were found? Seubert says swampy. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 02:39:48 PM
George's Paternity is not REALLY the issue -- the defense KNOWS he is not. They are only trying to stress to the jury that George's (or Lee's) behavior/reputation made these two "POSSIBLE" suspects in LE's minds. They are trying to stress that people thought there was a distinct possibility of incest in the family. The Defense could care less that they were not actually the father.

I agree.  It is all about the defence creating a reasonable doubt in jury deliberations.

What I cannot comprehend is why the State did not call a witness who was qualified to clear up any reasonable doubt by citing the conclusive results of a paternity test.

In other words ... this topic could have been a non-issue early on in the trial.

Janet

I think you are missing my point a little. The Defense is only trying to stress that George was a shady enough character that LE felt the NEED to test him. When the Defense makes their closing argument -- they will say: "We know George wasn't the father, but everyone suspected he MIGHT be. He was always suspected of molesting casey".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:39:59 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: DNA type from Lee Anthony used to compared with Caylee. No alleles present. #CaseyAnthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:40:07 PM
Can we move on to the next witness please. (http://i51.tinypic.com/2lc5nck.jpg)

I swear the defense is either stalling or looking for an answer they will NEVER get


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:40:17 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.

she is going to sink this ship

Oh no Farmville lady
Sounds as if she is looking for NO doubt, not reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I was very concerned about her from the beginning because she sounded too stupid to understand any of it and the judge forced her on the jury because of her race. That really hacks me off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:40:30 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 02:40:36 PM
it's been so long since she first started.. I forgot.. is she with the FBI? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: ISpy on June 16, 2011, 02:41:01 PM
caseyupdates Casey Anthony Update
Uncut: Attorneys Argue Over DNA: Jose Baez and Jeff Ashton argue over a small amount of DNA on a shovel. http://on.wesh.com/mJS3PM

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Jumping in here with a couple points on the shovel.  The most important question on this is where was the less than standard amount of DNA found on the shovel: handle or bowl? The problem for the defense (and what the prosecution needs to heavily hit on) is the obvious lack of measurable DNA for Brian Burner.  As the owner of the shovel, his DNA should be all over the handle of that shovel (barest minimum), as he picked it up and carried it back to his garage to put it away.  The obvious absence of any standard-measurable DNA means someone cleaned that shovel very well.  Unless Brian Burner is an OCD lawn tool guy and all of his yard have neither dirt nor his DNA, only one other person was in possession of that shovel during that time frame.
As for Casey's pants having no blood stains, we only have Cindy's word that those are the pants she removed from the car and washed.  How do we know for sure they are the same pants?  Frankly, I'm more interested in her shoes.  Unless Casey's shoes were all brand new (insole and outer sole-wise), there's no logical explanation for the outside of the shoe to be absolutely clean.  The insole is going to show fiber damage from wearing them even once (crushed/torn/stretched/matted fibers, foot sweat/dead skin cell DNA). Skin cells can be vacuumed, damaged fibers are irreparable.
Off and running to read. BBL  JMO on the above
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 02:41:27 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Seubert: Marrow from tibia used to generate DNA profile. #CaseyAnthony


http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


...and KC doesn't even flinch  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 02:41:32 PM
Drive it home Ashton & put this witness out of her misery

Capp, don't you mean:  "Put this witness out of OUR misery"?  ::MonkeyTongue::

Its gonna be a few agonizing days...at this rate weeks  ::MonkeyNoNo::    Misery needs a margarita, serving now  ::monkeymargarita::

Oh HELL he is back.......I'll take 2  ::monkeymargarita:: ::monkeymargarita:: please


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 02:41:34 PM
FTLOG, I cannot believe how long this witness has been on the stand to say absolutely nothing.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:41:42 PM
Can we move on to the next witness please. (http://i51.tinypic.com/2lc5nck.jpg)

She is overly explanatory in everything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Samarie on June 16, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
I'd really like to know if we have spent more time at sidebar than actually presenting the case.  It sure seems that way.

I'd bet at least 1/2 of the time has been spent on sidebars, proffers and other interruption



SUNNY - You 're absolutely right!

I've missed a few days of testimony here and there. I've caught up in the evening and if you review the videos on wftv, they cut out the sidebars and BS. I noted the time and about 1/2 of the court time is spent in sidebars... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:42:21 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Seubert can't say how far in decomposing process DNA results would stop. Just that it starts to diminish. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 16, 2011, 02:42:37 PM
With this intriguing testimony it's getting clearer and clearer to me that this was an accidental drowning.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:42:46 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.

she is going to sink this ship

Oh no Farmville lady
Sounds as if she is looking for NO doubt, not reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I was very concerned about her from the beginning because she sounded too stupid to understand any of it and the judge forced her on the jury because of her race. That really hacks me off.

Yes and the fact neither side really questioned her nobody knows to much about her..Everyone just assumed she would not make the cut. Not because she was black but because of how she was answering questions like she had no idea what they were saying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 02:42:47 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:42:50 PM
In other words idiot, the liner stain would be much more significant if it wasnt triple contained....good God give me strength!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:43:09 PM
Can we move on to the next witness please. (http://i51.tinypic.com/2lc5nck.jpg)

I swear the defense is either stalling or looking for an answer they will NEVER get

He is just wasting time so he appears to have some type of defense. All so far has been totally irrelevant to this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:43:13 PM
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that Juror #4 (the one we were concerned about) has taken NO NOTES throughout the whole prosecution part of the trial and when the defense started she is taking copious notes.

she is going to sink this ship

Oh no Farmville lady
Sounds as if she is looking for NO doubt, not reasonable doubt.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I was very concerned about her from the beginning because she sounded too stupid to understand any of it and the judge forced her on the jury because of her race. That really hacks me off.


Yes, the judge did force this one on.  And I feel ill when I think she could derail the whole conviction.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 02:43:17 PM
Is she FBI???????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:44:10 PM
In other words idiot, the liner stain would be much more significant if it wasnt triple contained....good God give me strength!!!!

I am not sure how much longer I am going to be able to listen to this fool. I may have to selectively listen to the videos later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)
::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
never mind... i thought she was a paid head because of her demeanor


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:44:47 PM
I am now very confused.  Last week the dufense was objecting left right and centre everytime evidence was coming out that the body was in the trunk.  Bobo just put the body in the trunk with decomp fluid leaking out of the trash bag where the handles tie up.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 02:45:13 PM
Wait, did Baez just say that blood could leak out onto the trunk liner from the plastic bag?  Is he admitting Caylee was in the trunk?  I'm confused. Again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 16, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
With this intriguing testimony it's getting clearer and clearer to me that this was an accidental drowning.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

that and maybe Casey was a better bagger than we thought ?  How can she sit there and show no emotion with this testimony about her daughters body fluids leaking out through a trash bag in her trunk? REALLY!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)


I always do, Wreck, lol!

Yes, this is totally in contrary to Baez opening statement.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
Ashton please shut the door


Thank you Jesus!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 02:46:36 PM
CJBP sounds a bit exasperated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:46:48 PM

Yes, the judge did force this one on.  And I feel ill when I think she could derail the whole conviction.

I agree. Hopefully the jury has enough intelligent people who will be able to explain this to her. She really was ignorant sounding in the jury interviews which worried me more than her not having any friends or playing on farmville all day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 16, 2011, 02:46:53 PM
FINALLY! Go home, don't come back, now! Thank you buh bye!!!!  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 02:46:53 PM
I'd really like to know if we have spent more time at sidebar than actually presenting the case.  It sure seems that way.

I'd bet at least 1/2 of the time has been spent on sidebars, proffers and other interruption



SUNNY - You 're absolutely right!

I've missed a few days of testimony here and there. I've caught up in the evening and if you review the videos on wftv, they cut out the sidebars and BS. I noted the time and about 1/2 of the court time is spent in sidebars... ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wish I had had the foresight to keep track of the amount of time spent on 'time outs'  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Girlzrock on June 16, 2011, 02:46:59 PM
With this intriguing testimony it's getting clearer and clearer to me that this was an accidental drowning.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

that and maybe Casey was a better bagger than we thought ?  How can she sit there and show no emotion with this testimony about her daughters body fluids leaking out through a trash bag in her trunk? REALLY!

And, on the anniversary of her death...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Curly on June 16, 2011, 02:47:00 PM
Break coming?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:47:14 PM
Please don't be another FBI, crime scene, LE agent pleaseeeeeeeee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Mere on June 16, 2011, 02:47:17 PM
Is she FBI???????????

I asked Google and they said she is......amazing..!

                ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 16, 2011, 02:47:18 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:47:22 PM
Well, now, wasn't that special!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:47:29 PM
CJBP sounds a bit exasperated.

He sounds like he is as worn out with this witness as I am.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:47:50 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)


I always do, Wreck, lol!

Yes, this is totally in contrary to Baez opening statement.

 ::rhino::   And it isnt even why the test was done at all.   The test was done due to the defendant's previous accusations she made to two boyfriends regarding her brother when she felt they were about to leave her or were ticked off at her for one reason or another & she was trying to make them feel bad for her...typical manipulation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 02:47:58 PM
Can we be excused?  This was ridiculous.  This could have been over in 30 minutes, tops.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 02:48:05 PM
3hr and 45 minutes.....and what did we get??
 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:48:18 PM
As they are talking about decomp fluids leaking out of her daughter

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss174/northernrose/4c.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 16, 2011, 02:48:34 PM
<.... yawn......> goin for a swim


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 16, 2011, 02:48:37 PM
caseyupdates Casey Anthony Update
Uncut: Attorneys Argue Over DNA: Jose Baez and Jeff Ashton argue over a small amount of DNA on a shovel. http://on.wesh.com/mJS3PM

http://twitter.com/#!/caseyupdates (http://twitter.com/#!/caseyupdates)
Jumping in here with a couple points on the shovel.  The most important question on this is where was the less than standard amount of DNA found on the shovel: handle or bowl? The problem for the defense (and what the prosecution needs to heavily hit on) is the obvious lack of measurable DNA for Brian Burner.  As the owner of the shovel, his DNA should be all over the handle of that shovel (barest minimum), as he picked it up and carried it back to his garage to put it away.  The obvious absence of any standard-measurable DNA means someone cleaned that shovel very well.  Unless Brian Burner is an OCD lawn tool guy and all of his yard have neither dirt nor his DNA, only one other person was in possession of that shovel during that time frame.
As for Casey's pants having no blood stains, we only have Cindy's word that those are the pants she removed from the car and washed.  How do we know for sure they are the same pants?  Frankly, I'm more interested in her shoes.  Unless Casey's shoes were all brand new (insole and outer sole-wise), there's no logical explanation for the outside of the shoe to be absolutely clean.  The insole is going to show fiber damage from wearing them even once (crushed/torn/stretched/matted fibers, foot sweat/dead skin cell DNA). Skin cells can be vacuumed, damaged fibers are irreparable.
Off and running to read. BBL  JMO on the above
 

My thoughts on the shovel is that (1) as one monkey already said, wood is not good surface from which to collect DNA and (2) shovel had NO DNA which indicates to me that it had been exposed to water just prior to it being collected by LE which eliminated all fingerprints that might have been present. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: snoopy on June 16, 2011, 02:48:48 PM
Ashton please shut the door


Thank you Jesus!!!

Amen!! 

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:49:03 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?

Unfortunately I believe you are right. That may be their big bombshell. Bozo is hot for Linda...........watch his actions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:49:08 PM
MarthaSugalski Martha Sugalski
Heather Seubert finally done - she has been on the stand since around 9:40 this morning

http://twitter.com/#!/MarthaSugalski (http://twitter.com/#!/MarthaSugalski)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 02:49:58 PM
With this intriguing testimony it's getting clearer and clearer to me that this was an accidental drowning.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Yep.. defense has me convinced too.. NOT !   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 02:49:58 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Judge calls recess til 305pm eastern in #caseyanthony Jurors are going for special smoke break.. Meaning we can't leave for a few more min!

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:50:24 PM
OMG too funny Bill Schaeffer on WFTV's livestream is on a tear, saying that got us nowhere & is moving at a snail's pace.   He joked by the time this is over we will be sipping eggnog & is shaking his head in disbelief.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: starwynn on June 16, 2011, 02:50:25 PM
As they are talking about decomp fluids leaking out of her daughter

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss174/northernrose/4c.jpg)

Yeah, well - defense didn't train their puppy to make big sad eyes during that part.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 02:50:40 PM
The witness has been excused!!! hallelujah! hallelujah! (http://i54.tinypic.com/343rdps.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 02:50:51 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?

Unfortunately I believe you are right. That may be their big bombshell. Bozo is hot for Linda...........watch his actions.
if he is caylees father, I hope they all die.... puke


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 02:50:53 PM
Are those 10 root canals finished?  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:51:29 PM
Again, there was NO paternity test.  LA and GA were given the same DNA test as all family and those in close proximity.  From this alone, they were eliminated when compared to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: alagary on June 16, 2011, 02:51:30 PM
Is she FBI???????????
Might be retired by now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 02:51:48 PM
With this intriguing testimony it's getting clearer and clearer to me that this was an accidental drowning.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

that and maybe Casey was a better bagger than we thought ?  How can she sit there and show no emotion with this testimony about her daughters body fluids leaking out through a trash bag in her trunk? REALLY!

A better bagger?  She couldn't be a bagger at Publix. 
::MonkeyDevil::My son says she's a two-bagger.  (Over her head, so if one rips, you wouldn't have to see her face.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Blonde on June 16, 2011, 02:51:55 PM
Well, now, wasn't that special!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL-Defense/bozoflirt.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:52:00 PM
As they are talking about decomp fluids leaking out of her daughter

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss174/northernrose/4c.jpg)

Yup, and she doesnt care on the day she murdered her three years ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 02:52:45 PM
Wait, did Baez just say that blood could leak out onto the trunk liner from the plastic bag?  Is he admitting Caylee was in the trunk?  I'm confused. Again.


Docs: Death Stench Prompted 'Trunk' Fears; Casey Blamed Dead Squirrel
600 Documents Of Interviews, Text Messages Released In Caylee Case
POSTED: 5:08 pm EDT September 23, 2008
UPDATED: 6:46 pm EDT September 23, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Nearly three weeks before deputies arrested the mother of missing Caylee Anthony, the 22-year-old admitted to a friend that her car smelled like death, according to new information in nearly 600 pages of released documents concerning the case.

The documents, which included interviews and phone records, showed Casey Anthony was aware of a foul smell in her car.

In a phone call to Amy Huizenga, Casey Anthony told her friend, "It smells like something died in my car."

Casey Anthony claimed her father, George, had possibly run over a squirrel when he borrowed her car that week.

<snipped>

http://www.local6.com/news/17541114/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:53:04 PM
Again, there was NO paternity test.  LA and GA were given the same DNA test as all family and those in close proximity.  From this alone, they were eliminated when compared to Caylee.

Eliminated nonetheless & Id take it no paternity test would prove otherwise


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Curly on June 16, 2011, 02:53:06 PM
Watch the next witness be the agent whose DNA was found in the testing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 02:53:08 PM
Wonder who is next, the next victim


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 02:53:12 PM
Those jurors are going to so hate that defense team !!!  Poor things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: snoopy on June 16, 2011, 02:54:10 PM
Well, now, wasn't that special!

Oh Anna!!  How in the world are we gonna get through this?  lol
We've gotta see this through for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: starwynn on June 16, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
I had someone mention to me yesterday that if one juror won't convict, that the others can vote them out.  I didn't think this is true in FL?  I thought the problem was about Farmville possibly "not being able to judge someone" (paraphrasing) and that she could keep away a conviction that way.

Also, on the chat associated with WESH's presentation of the trial, someone said (take with a grain of salt) that #4 has admitted to someone that she doesn't like the judge, that she didn't take any notes during state, but "copious" notes during defense.  Is this farmgirl?  If she did say she dislikes the judge, can she be replaced/removed?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 02:54:41 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test  was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?
Did they not just say BOTH Anthonys were eliminated and NO special tests were ordered?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:54:54 PM

Yes and the fact neither side really questioned her nobody knows to much about her..Everyone just assumed she would not make the cut. Not because she was black but because of how she was answering questions like she had no idea what they were saying.

The prosecution asked to have her cut up front and on backstrike but the judge said no due to racial make up of the jury. KC is not black so why did it matter? JP may have screwed up this whole case over stupid affirmative action crap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 02:54:54 PM
Can we move on to the next witness please. (http://i51.tinypic.com/2lc5nck.jpg)


I agree, pleas move on, I'm bored and think it's irrelevant, if I'm poor and rob a bank, I don't think the jury would care that I did it because I came from a family of poverty or bank robbers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:55:27 PM
Again, there was NO paternity test.  LA and GA were given the same DNA test as all family and those in close proximity.  From this alone, they were eliminated when compared to Caylee.

Eliminated nonetheless & Id take it no paternity test would prove otherwise


But Baez lied in his OS and claimed that just out of the blue, the FBI did one.  Very important to me as it goes to his credibility.

JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 02:55:39 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test  was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?
Did they not just say BOTH Anthonys were eliminated and NO special tests were ordered?

Yes, they did


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 16, 2011, 02:56:10 PM
1:40pm Thursday, June 16, 2011 Court is in session.

Defense witness Heather Seubert is back on the stand.

Baez is up........

Did you do a paternity test to see if Lee Anthony was the father of Caylee Anthony?  She is checking her report of Dec 16, 2008.  She says that report does not address that.  Baez tells her she has two reports on that day, she is still looking for it.  She can't find it, she is asking for a copy of it.  Baez is handing her a copy.  Can you read to the jury the results?  Based on the STR typing results the DNA obtained from Caylee Anthony could not have originated from Lee Anthony.  These types of tests are not done very often at the FBI lab are they?  Sustained.  Moving to the same report she doesn't have, lol.  She found it now.  Can you explain to the jury what you did with the car seat from the Pontiac Sun Fire? It was examined for the presence of blood, it was negative.  Did you do anything further with the car seat?  No.  Next item is the steering wheel cover from the Pontiac Sun Fire, she examined it for stains, no stains were found, no testing was done.  Next item is debris from the spare tire wheel well and a swab from the spare tire wheel well.  He didn't ask her a question about this.  He just asked her if they had gone over all her results and she said yes.  Baez is done.........

Jeff is up......

You did a phenylalanine test for blood in the stains from the trunk?  She explains how they do the test.  It changes color if blood is found.  When a body decomposes a body's blood also decomposes?  Would this test react to fat?  It is possible if there is intact red blood cells.  The stain you tested is being identified as being decomposition fluid?  Does your test, refute that?  No.  Does your test indicate that the fluid was not from a human body?  My testing was negative for blood, that is all I can testify to.  Could the stains still be decomposition fluid?  It is possible, it just wasn't blood.  What happens to DNA when cell decomposes?  The DNA is degraded.  When the cells break down the DNA breaks down.  In order for your testing to work, you have to have intact strands of DNA?  Yes, I need 13 markers.  If a cell is decomposing you don't expect to find DNA?  Yes, it breaks down when the body breaks down.  Jeff is referring her to Baez's Big Pad.  This result that counsel wrote on this chart this 50, what does it mean?  It is the reliable result in the laboratory, she explains the process to show what is needed to get any result at all on DNA.  50 is when the computer sees a true peak for DNA, that is what is set at the FBI lab for analysis.  What is a peak at 55 mean?  It was located at a certain marker and it was inconclusive, she can give no information on what this can mean.  It was the sex chromosome?  Yes.  You can't tell which sex this was?  It was just inconclusive.  Does this mean there is potentially an entire DNA profile there?  You could perform a low copy technique on it but I have no idea what that result would be.  You could never tell if this was a male or a female?  It is possible but I do not know.  There was a single result on the sticky side of the tape?  Yes, well below the threshold of our testing at that marker. Side bar.....Side bar is over. Now the judge wants to just see the attorneys and not the court reporter at side bar.  Shoot, that means no transcript later of what they are saying, must be juicy for no court reporter.  Judge and Attorney only side bar 2:15pm. Side bar is over........

The judge is going to let Mr Baez ask an additional question.  The marker that is on the sticky side of the duct tape, when you saw this, did you try to eliminate anyone besides Caylee and Casey?  Yes, I tried with all the lab personnel and all the known samples.  This is different because you only had one marker, this is different than the other one you had 6?  Yes the top side had 6 markers and the bottom side of the duct tape had 1 marker.  How many people did you go through.  All five of the known samples, then the known reference samples from the lab, there was 5 of them.  Did you find someone who could not be excluded?  That was inconclusive and did not meet her threshold to find or eliminate anyone?  Was there another individual that had that marker at that location?  Yes, one of their markers at D3 was a 16/17.  You saw no 16 at the D3, did you?  There was just a 17 at the peak.  This could be 2 things, a person could have 2 peaks or 1 peak?  Yes, a person could have 1 peak or 2 peaks.  You only found one peak?  Yes.  Because it was so low you could not find out what it was?  Yes, it was lower than the thresholds at the lab.  Baez is done.........

Jeff is up..........

The reality of this, is that this peak means nothing?  Right, it was inconclusive.  If it meant anything it is not the DNA of George Anthony?  Yes, Mr George Anthony did not have a 17.  She is clearing a mistake up, Caylee was a 14/15 and Casey is a 15/19, she is sorry for that mistake. Mr Baez spent a great deal of time asking you about blood, you testified that you tested for blood?  Yes, it is one of the tests we did.  If someone is shot or stabbed they would have blood?  Yes.  If someone is killed and it does not involve blood shed, it would not show blood?  Yes, I would have no way of knowing if it happened or not.  Were you involved in the order of the testing of the duct tape? No.  You were not expecting to find any DNA on the duct tape?  If any I would of expected to find it on the sticky side but after learning that the exposure and amount of time there was probably not going to be DNA.  For DNA to survive on an object in a swampy area for 6 months would be unlikely?  Objection. Sustained. Side bar......A deputy just told someone not to talk in the gallery, it was not Cindy or George.  Side bar is over.  2:35.  Jeff is still up....

How is the area the remains were found described to you?  Water in it, a swampy type of area.  What would happen to the DNA in Florida, in the heat for 6 months?  The cells would die and the DNA would degrade. Would that answer include all of the other items at the remains scene?  Yes.
Mr Baez asked you about a paternity test, the FBI doesn't normally do paternity tests?  Correct.  You got Caylee DNA's from a bone?  Yes, a tibia.  To do this paternity test, you tested Lee Anthony?  Yes and he wasn't.  To summarize all of the testing you have done here.  The stain in the car, all you know is that it was not blood?  Yes.  All of the DNA found at the remains scene was of a FBI lab staff member?  Yes.  Jeff is done......

Baez is up.......

You talked about cells breaking down, there is no longer an ability to get DNA?  Yes.  You can't tell when you can no longer get DNA from decomp?  It depends, if you use a tooth or a bone, that will remain longer....all of the other tissues will start to degrade and the ability to collect DNA is less likely.  Baez asks her if this is in the latter part of the decomp?  She says she can't give an answer, it would vary.  What you can say is that you did not get DNA or blood from the trunk of that car?  Correct.  Is it your understanding from the early stages of decomp there is blood?  Yes, the possibility would exist.  Would blood leak out on the carpet of a trunk liner?  Within the confinement of a trunk all of those fluids would run together.  If it is contained in a plastic bag and there is a hole in the bag could it leak out?  It is possible.  As you were giving the answer to Mr Ashton did you take into consideration what your protocols were?  Yes, what is based on the SOP of the lab.  The 17 allele you cannot give information on?  It was inconclusive.  When you discussed about the out door elements and the potential to find DNA, you did say the expectation if duct tape was place around someone's mouth you would.....sustained.  Would you expect to find more DNA on the sticky side or the non-sticky side?  The sticky side.  Baez is done...

Jeff is up.........

Blood spilled from the body, still continues to decompose?  Yes along with the other fluids.  Jeff is done.  Witness is excused.  Court is taking a break.












Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 02:56:57 PM
I had someone mention to me yesterday that if one juror won't convict, that the others can vote them out.  I didn't think this is true in FL?  I thought the problem was about Farmville possibly "not being able to judge someone" (paraphrasing) and that she could keep away a conviction that way.

Also, on the chat associated with WESH's presentation of the trial, someone said (take with a grain of salt) that #4 has admitted to someone that she doesn't like the judge, that she didn't take any notes during state, but "copious" notes during defense.  Is this farmgirl?  If she did say she dislikes the judge, can she be replaced/removed?

They need to replace her and if she really did say that the jury can ask the court (so can the prosecution) to remove her. I sure hope that happens as she is so obviously biased for some reason. Probably stupidity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 16, 2011, 02:56:59 PM

Yes, the judge did force this one on.  And I feel ill when I think she could derail the whole conviction.

I agree. Hopefully the jury has enough intelligent people who will be able to explain this to her. She really was ignorant sounding in the jury interviews which worried me more than her not having any friends or playing on farmville all day.

A thought about FV lady and maybe others as well.  I think JB lost her with his opening statement when he used the graphic description of fellatio being performed by KC on her father.  If she is as prudish as she appeared, that description in itself will have turned her off to his entire argument.  There are many other more delicate ways of saying what JB wanted to imply that happened.  He went for shock value and I think it will come back to bite him.    :2redman:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:57:01 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test  was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?
Did they not just say BOTH Anthonys were eliminated and NO special tests were ordered?


They said that on my TV, Wreck.  However I am wondering if the jury could find that in all the mumbo jumbo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
We have to expand the poll threw to Christmas.
Rack it up again Klaas.....................

 ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 02:58:33 PM

Yes and the fact neither side really questioned her nobody knows to much about her..Everyone just assumed she would not make the cut. Not because she was black but because of how she was answering questions like she had no idea what they were saying.

The prosecution asked to have her cut up front and on backstrike but the judge said no due to racial make up of the jury. KC is not black so why did it matter? JP may have screwed up this whole case over stupid affirmative action crap.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 02:59:00 PM
ON HLN, they are pretending that there was a paternity test.  And gloating that the jury was told this right before lunch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 02:59:30 PM
I had someone mention to me yesterday that if one juror won't convict, that the others can vote them out.  I didn't think this is true in FL?  I thought the problem was about Farmville possibly "not being able to judge someone" (paraphrasing) and that she could keep away a conviction that way.

Also, on the chat associated with WESH's presentation of the trial, someone said (take with a grain of salt) that #4 has admitted to someone that she doesn't like the judge, that she didn't take any notes during state, but "copious" notes during defense.  Is this farmgirl?  If she did say she dislikes the judge, can she be replaced/removed?

Who would she admit that to? Only way they would know that is if someone in the jury room family members are talking to media?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 02:59:46 PM
Well, now, wasn't that special!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL-Defense/bozoflirt.jpg)

Looks like, bad mouth.....
 ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: starwynn on June 16, 2011, 03:00:44 PM
I had someone mention to me yesterday that if one juror won't convict, that the others can vote them out.  I didn't think this is true in FL?  I thought the problem was about Farmville possibly "not being able to judge someone" (paraphrasing) and that she could keep away a conviction that way.

Also, on the chat associated with WESH's presentation of the trial, someone said (take with a grain of salt) that #4 has admitted to someone that she doesn't like the judge, that she didn't take any notes during state, but "copious" notes during defense.  Is this farmgirl?  If she did say she dislikes the judge, can she be replaced/removed?

Who would she admit that to? Only way they would know that is if someone in the jury room family members are talking to media?

I don't know.  It sounded credible, but it also sounds like something that would have to be proven to give it any credence.  I sure would like for it to be looked into.  Someone asked "where does it say she said that" and the person didn't answer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
OMG too funny Bill Schaeffer on WFTV's livestream is on a tear, saying that got us nowhere & is moving at a snail's pace.   He joked by the time this is over we will be sipping eggnog & is shaking his head in disbelief.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks for the chuckle, sure needed it at this point.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: starwynn on June 16, 2011, 03:01:20 PM
The conversation is taking place both on the WESH website, and same conversation at https://www.facebook.com/plugins/live_stream_box.php?app_id=194723957219326&filter=pub_194723957219326-5006290522186&stream_id=5006290522186&height=800&width=700


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: wreck on June 16, 2011, 03:01:26 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test  was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?
Did they not just say BOTH Anthonys were eliminated and NO special tests were ordered?


They said that on my TV, Wreck.  However I am wondering if the jury could find that in all the mumbo jumbo.
That's fine -- that is what closing arguments are for. The Prosecution will stress that point back to them then.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:02:57 PM
I had someone mention to me yesterday that if one juror won't convict, that the others can vote them out.  I didn't think this is true in FL?  I thought the problem was about Farmville possibly "not being able to judge someone" (paraphrasing) and that she could keep away a conviction that way.

Also, on the chat associated with WESH's presentation of the trial, someone said (take with a grain of salt) that #4 has admitted to someone that she doesn't like the judge, that she didn't take any notes during state, but "copious" notes during defense.  Is this farmgirl?  If she did say she dislikes the judge, can she be replaced/removed?

Who would she admit that to? Only way they would know that is if someone in the jury room family members are talking to media?

I don't know.  It sounded credible, but it also sounds like something that would have to be proven to give it any credence.  I sure would like for it to be looked into.  Someone asked "where does it say she said that" and the person didn't answer.

I don't see how any one of the jurors could not like Judge Perry. He takes care of them very well and always thinks of them first.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 03:03:37 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test  was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?
Did they not just say BOTH Anthonys were eliminated and NO special tests were ordered?
That's what I *thought* I heard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:03:50 PM
The conversation is taking place both on the WESH website, and same conversation at https://www.facebook.com/plugins/live_stream_box.php?app_id=194723957219326&filter=pub_194723957219326-5006290522186&stream_id=5006290522186&height=800&width=700

Maybe one of her farmville friends  ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:04:49 PM
Jeff made the point that no special "paternity" test  was done and that both Anthonys were eliminated from the standard DNA test done on all close parties!!!

Glad he got that in as it is very important to nullify Baez's claim that it got so bad a apternity test was done.
YES, you get my point (and so did Jeff!)

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?
Did they not just say BOTH Anthonys were eliminated and NO special tests were ordered?
That's what I *thought* I heard.

Yes and Yes George and Lee Anthony are not Caylee Marie Anthony's father


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: alagary on June 16, 2011, 03:06:10 PM
I had someone mention to me yesterday that if one juror won't convict, that the others can vote them out.  I didn't think this is true in FL?  I thought the problem was about Farmville possibly "not being able to judge someone" (paraphrasing) and that she could keep away a conviction that way.

Also, on the chat associated with WESH's presentation of the trial, someone said (take with a grain of salt) that #4 has admitted to someone that she doesn't like the judge, that she didn't take any notes during state, but "copious" notes during defense.  Is this farmgirl?  If she did say she dislikes the judge, can she be replaced/removed?

Who would she admit that to? Only way they would know that is if someone in the jury room family members are talking to media?

I don't know.  It sounded credible, but it also sounds like something that would have to be proven to give it any credence.  I sure would like for it to be looked into.  Someone asked "where does it say she said that" and the person didn't answer.
Those are things she said during jury selection. The note taking parts are from observers in the court room.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: akmom on June 16, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
At this rate I will be dead before this trial is over. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:09:02 PM
All this Lee talk maybe he will be up next


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
At this rate I will be dead before this trial is over. 

geez I hope not!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Yoder1 on June 16, 2011, 03:09:33 PM
JP is back. Here we go again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 16, 2011, 03:09:33 PM
I had someone mention to me yesterday that if one juror won't convict, that the others can vote them out.  I didn't think this is true in FL?  I thought the problem was about Farmville possibly "not being able to judge someone" (paraphrasing) and that she could keep away a conviction that way.

Also, on the chat associated with WESH's presentation of the trial, someone said (take with a grain of salt) that #4 has admitted to someone that she doesn't like the judge, that she didn't take any notes during state, but "copious" notes during defense.  Is this farmgirl?  If she did say she dislikes the judge, can she be replaced/removed?

I have found several people on that chat are just trying to make trouble. I don't even look at it anymore and just follow the media tweets on the right side. Could be someone trying to start trouble for the jury. They are evidently clean so far because defense hasn't seem to get any taken off yet.

Who would she admit that to? Only way they would know that is if someone in the jury room family members are talking to media?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:09:48 PM
do we know who is next?? what is the hold up?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 03:11:19 PM

George has never been eliminated. Never said it.

>Lee
>Lee
>Lee

Was eliminated. Are we watching the same trial?

I wish there was official affirmation submitted as evidence which exonerates George in regards to the despicable insinuations of Jose Baez.

This letter from George to Casey has always bothered me.  He does not deny.  He does not accuse Casey of lying.

However ... George attempts to convince Casey that it will be her fault if the family unit is destroy.  A common tatic used by child sex abusers.

The following letter implies that I am on the fence in regards to the sexual abuse allegations by Baez.

However ... there is one area I am not on the fence.  There is NOTHING that may or may not have happened in Casey's life that could justify the murder of Caylee Marie.

Janet

+++++




(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

(Had to go find it in the pdf file and make it an image and upload it.) ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 03:11:23 PM
Who's the next witness, I didn't hear him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Yoder1 on June 16, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
More chit chat with Linda and Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:12:18 PM
DEFENSE CALLS:   Robyn Maynard (testified for the State)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 03:12:53 PM
Dear God, another FBI person.  Hoh boy.  Boooooorrrrrinnnng.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 03:13:03 PM
DEFENSE CALLS:   Robyn Maynard (testified for the State)

ugh this is going to just drag on and on and on


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:13:13 PM
They found a new person to killer sit.  How adorable

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss174/northernrose/5c.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 03:13:21 PM
Sorry, not FBI.  Orange County.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: mizjay on June 16, 2011, 03:13:28 PM
hey.....about the poll I couldn't decide on yesterday.........has Klaas added months to it yet?  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 03:13:53 PM



Oh no evil monster is putting on the sweater... here comes the illness...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:14:03 PM
Heart sticker on cardboard being discussed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
George Anthony tells me his sinuses are still bothering him. He thinks its something in the air in courtroom 23 #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:14:31 PM
This is ridiculous  ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: WesleyBear on June 16, 2011, 03:14:33 PM
Hello all!  Do you guys think Biaz will be interviewing Lee?  If so, do you think he will ask if he ever touched ICA inappropiately?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 03:14:38 PM



Gosh, Bozo thinks he is so charming!!!  NOT!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
They found a new person to killer sit.  How adorable

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss174/northernrose/5c.jpg)

She needs to learn how to be professional & not go over there chit chatting with an accused babykiller


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:15:07 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
George Anthony tells me his sinuses are still bothering him. He thinks its something in the air in courtroom 23 #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)
No doubt!  It's called the stench of a murdering wench!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:15:10 PM
GaryTuchmanCNN Gary Tuchman
Four spectators in the Casey Anthony trial courtroom have been kicked out for falling asleep. #ac360 #cnn

http://twitter.com/#!/GaryTuchmanCNN (http://twitter.com/#!/GaryTuchmanCNN)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:15:51 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Robin Maynard takes the stand. She was a crime scene investigator with sheriff's office back in 2008. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:16:18 PM
GaryTuchmanCNN Gary Tuchman
Four spectators in the Casey Anthony trial courtroom have been kicked out for falling asleep. #ac360 #cnn

http://twitter.com/#!/GaryTuchmanCNN (http://twitter.com/#!/GaryTuchmanCNN)

am surprised there weren't more!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 16, 2011, 03:16:43 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
George Anthony tells me his sinuses are still bothering him. He thinks its something in the air in courtroom 23 #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)

Maybe the smell of evidence.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 03:16:47 PM



Oh no evil monster is putting on the sweater... here comes the FAKE illness...

Sorry... I hit enter before I proof read my post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 03:17:07 PM
hey.....about the poll I couldn't decide on yesterday.........has Klaas added months to it yet?  ::MonkeyWink::
I was thinking the same thing.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Yoder1 on June 16, 2011, 03:17:48 PM
 ::snipping2::
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

 ::snipping2::



This photo speaks volumes. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 16, 2011, 03:18:37 PM
Was it this ladies DNA which could Not be excluded?  She is no longer employed by OC.  Will the Defense discredit everything she came into contact with now?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: yuknomenot on June 16, 2011, 03:19:20 PM
Appropriately, the heart sticker picture was "beating" like a heart when he put it on the projector thingy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:19:22 PM
Just before they were showing the lanes where bones were found

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss174/northernrose/6c.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 03:19:32 PM
hey.....about the poll I couldn't decide on yesterday.........has Klaas added months to it yet?  ::MonkeyWink::
I was thinking the same thing.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Jeez.... I went to work and came back already and the poor lady just got off the stand? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:20:35 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
My iPad auto correct is driving me crazy. I just typed "45 ft from baseline" and it changed it to "45 ft from vasaline". #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:20:40 PM
What was the point???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 03:21:06 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
My iPad auto correct is driving me crazy. I just typed "45 ft from baseline" and it changed it to "45 ft from vasaline". #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)


Sounds like my iphone 4 auto correct...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 03:21:28 PM
What was the point???
The point you ask???
The point is on top of Baez's head.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: califmom on June 16, 2011, 03:21:29 PM



WTH was that about?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 03:21:59 PM
I just released balloons for Caylee.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:22:05 PM
What was the point???
The point you ask???
The point is on top of Baez's head.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:22:10 PM
What was the point???

was wondering the same thing..

Ron Murdoch...who is this guy? sounds familiar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
last week she was a freak when they talked about Caylees bones, today she looks like she is thinking of fried chicken


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:22:31 PM
I just released balloons for Caylee.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:22:39 PM
I just released balloons for Caylee.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: ISpy on June 16, 2011, 03:23:14 PM
As one of my favorite family members just said, "It's Caylee Marie Anthony Day!!".  Never fear monkeys, the battle belongs to the Lord!  No one has the right to murder what God has created. Casey, in her arrogance, set herself up as a god. He's a mighty warrior with a perfect battle record...she doesn't stand a chance. We're praying for wisdom, discernment, prudence, and self-control for Jeff and the prosecution.  We've prayed wisdom and discernment over the jurors (all of them).  We're thanking God that we aren't moved by theatrics and He's got it all under control.  The truth of the matter is, this time that Casey has left, is merely her last chances to fully confess and honestly repent to the Lord. Both "fully" and "honestly" are required. God gives chances so that no man or woman can whine on Judgement Day, "I didn't know God. It wasn't my fault.".  So, let the Philistine defense team stand and mock, we'll see who's standing when the dust clears and who's tucking tail and running. My money's on God and the prosecution, I've read the end of the Book. LOL!  MOO 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:23:30 PM
I just released balloons for Caylee.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb
Cool!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 03:23:31 PM
I just released balloons for Caylee.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:23:34 PM
oh..forensics guy right? the cute one that Casey Ho wishes she could impress...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:23:44 PM
I think ICA was just told to start putting her act on.  They are talking about the recovery site that she could not look at and had to take a 1/2 day off as it was too stressful for her last week.  Today of all days, the supposed anniversary of the death of her daughter and she has no issues with it right now. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 03:23:50 PM
What was the point???

was wondering the same thing..

Ron Murdoch...who is this guy? sounds familiar

Ron has returned cause Casey thought he was hot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: theboyzmom on June 16, 2011, 03:23:52 PM
I don't get why, if the defense has said Caylee died while with her mom, they would be so worried about the proof that she is indeed dead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: alagary on June 16, 2011, 03:24:13 PM
Anyone notice the young woman in the gallery that appears to be sitting on someones lap?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:24:31 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ronald Murdock is next witness called. He is forensic supervisor w/ Orange Co Sheriff's office. He testified for SAO earlier. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:24:51 PM
What was the point???

was wondering the same thing..

Ron Murdoch...who is this guy? sounds familiar

Ron has returned cause Casey thought he was hot.

lol...just posted about the same thing...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 03:25:02 PM
I just released balloons for Caylee.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb


Mine are on the way here right now...son a gf are picking them up when they pick up my "surprise birthday cake".... ::MonkeyHaHa::
They will be a bit late, but better late than never...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Sister on June 16, 2011, 03:25:14 PM
As one of my favorite family members just said, "It's Caylee Marie Anthony Day!!".  Never fear monkeys, the battle belongs to the Lord!  No one has the right to murder what God has created. Casey, in her arrogance, set herself up as a god. He's a mighty warrior with a perfect battle record...she doesn't stand a chance. We're praying for wisdom, discernment, prudence, and self-control for Jeff and the prosecution.  We've prayed wisdom and discernment over the jurors (all of them).  We're thanking God that we aren't moved by theatrics and He's got it all under control.  The truth of the matter is, this time that Casey has left, is merely her last chances to fully confess and honestly repent to the Lord. Both "fully" and "honestly" are required. God gives chances so that no man or woman can whine on Judgement Day, "I didn't know God. It wasn't my fault.".  So, let the Philistine defense team stand and mock, we'll see who's standing when the dust clears and who's tucking tail and running. My money's on God and the prosecution, I've read the end of the Book. LOL!  MOO 
ITA - Amen and Amen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:26:31 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Next witness Ron Murdock OSCO suprvisr forensics unit #caseyanthony asked to show how far heart sticker was found frm "baseline" at remains

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 03:26:39 PM
Dang.. he is cute..  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 03:26:47 PM
While under oath ... why was Cindy not asked by the prosecutor whether Casey had ever complained about being sexually abused by either Lee or George as Casey alleged in released jailhouse letters.

George's denial on the stand went unchallenged.

Janet

+++++

http://my.wftv.com/_Ericka-Courtney-Casey-Anthony-and-Family-Incest-confirmed-in-Jail-Letters/blog/2286150/6696.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:26:59 PM
As one of my favorite family members just said, "It's Caylee Marie Anthony Day!!".  Never fear monkeys, the battle belongs to the Lord!  No one has the right to murder what God has created. Casey, in her arrogance, set herself up as a god. He's a mighty warrior with a perfect battle record...she doesn't stand a chance. We're praying for wisdom, discernment, prudence, and self-control for Jeff and the prosecution.  We've prayed wisdom and discernment over the jurors (all of them).  We're thanking God that we aren't moved by theatrics and He's got it all under control.  The truth of the matter is, this time that Casey has left, is merely her last chances to fully confess and honestly repent to the Lord. Both "fully" and "honestly" are required. God gives chances so that no man or woman can whine on Judgement Day, "I didn't know God. It wasn't my fault.".  So, let the Philistine defense team stand and mock, we'll see who's standing when the dust clears and who's tucking tail and running. My money's on God and the prosecution, I've read the end of the Book. LOL!  MOO 
Well said ISpy!  My money is on GOD and the prosecution as well!  Here's to "Caylee Marie Anthony Day"!   ::MonkeyAngel::

I love your posts.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 03:27:41 PM
Dang.. he is cute..  ::MonkeyKiss::

haha we (daughter and I) think so too  ::MonkeyWink::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:28:06 PM
Wht is Bobo not using his handy dandy tape measure he had on the desk last week? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:28:33 PM
LOL

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Baez is great!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 03:28:47 PM
He is a cutie pie!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:29:06 PM
wth was that about now??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Baezsthoughts Baez's thoughts
So if you've been following along you have realized by now that I am in fact leading up to proof of a coming zombie invasion.

http://twitter.com/#!/Baezsthoughts (http://twitter.com/#!/Baezsthoughts)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: ISpy on June 16, 2011, 03:29:19 PM
I've got some errands to run and a get-together to attend tonight.  Will catch you all later.  Thanks for all the info and updates!  Magic Eyes, thanks so much for the concise updates. I needed those today.  I thank God I am not a juror.   :2brickwall: :smt100 :smt021 :gaah: BBL 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: dani on June 16, 2011, 03:29:53 PM
I keep having nightmares about Baez. I've already dreamt once that he was putting the moves on me and inviting me back to his office (which I declined of course) and then last night I dreamt that he was telling me to clear out my cubicle at work cos the entire company was shutting down.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 03:29:59 PM
Was there a pic of what Merdoc just did?
Had to take my dogs out..

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cookie on June 16, 2011, 03:30:24 PM
I keep having nightmares about Baez. I've already dreamt once that he was putting the moves on me and inviting me back to his office (which I declined of course) and then last night I dreamt that he was telling me to clear out my cubicle at work cos the entire company was shutting down.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:30:43 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Jennifer Welch is called by the defense now. She is crime scene investigator w/ Sheriff's office. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:30:48 PM
I wish the blinds could be raised in the courtroom so that all could see the balloons for Caylee being released.  Just a reminder that this is all about Caylee, in case anyone forgot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 16, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
As one of my favorite family members just said, "It's Caylee Marie Anthony Day!!".  Never fear monkeys, the battle belongs to the Lord!  No one has the right to murder what God has created. Casey, in her arrogance, set herself up as a god. He's a mighty warrior with a perfect battle record...she doesn't stand a chance. We're praying for wisdom, discernment, prudence, and self-control for Jeff and the prosecution.  We've prayed wisdom and discernment over the jurors (all of them).  We're thanking God that we aren't moved by theatrics and He's got it all under control.  The truth of the matter is, this time that Casey has left, is merely her last chances to fully confess and honestly repent to the Lord. Both "fully" and "honestly" are required. God gives chances so that no man or woman can whine on Judgement Day, "I didn't know God. It wasn't my fault.".  So, let the Philistine defense team stand and mock, we'll see who's standing when the dust clears and who's tucking tail and running. My money's on God and the prosecution, I've read the end of the Book. LOL!  MOO 


AMEN!!

 ::MonkeyAngel::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 03:31:06 PM
Evidence was scattered by those animals that chewed on her bones.

 ::MonkeyMad::

Distance doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:31:30 PM
I wish the blinds could be raised in the courtroom so that all could see the balloons for Caylee being released.  Just a reminder that this is all about Caylee, in case anyone forgot.

That would be great


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:31:36 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony The same experts examined George and found no deception. Of course this is all guesswork -- not proof of anything!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:32:32 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
WKMG reporting GA called 911 last night when Leonard Padilla was in front of his home with a news crew. #CaseyAnthony #HLN

http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:32:33 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)

VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
WKMG reporting GA called 911 last night when Leonard Padilla was in front of his home with a news crew. #CaseyAnthony #HLN
3 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:32:52 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
WKMG reporting GA called 911 last night when Leonard Padilla was in front of his home with a news crew. #CaseyAnthony #HLN

http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 03:33:25 PM
::snipping2::
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

 ::snipping2::



This photo speaks volumes. ::MonkeyNoNo::

May I ask what volumes it speaks?  I have always felt there as more to this letter than just this page...JMO of course


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Love2Read on June 16, 2011, 03:34:05 PM
As one of my favorite family members just said, "It's Caylee Marie Anthony Day!!".  Never fear monkeys, the battle belongs to the Lord!  No one has the right to murder what God has created. Casey, in her arrogance, set herself up as a god. He's a mighty warrior with a perfect battle record...she doesn't stand a chance. We're praying for wisdom, discernment, prudence, and self-control for Jeff and the prosecution.  We've prayed wisdom and discernment over the jurors (all of them).  We're thanking God that we aren't moved by theatrics and He's got it all under control.  The truth of the matter is, this time that Casey has left, is merely her last chances to fully confess and honestly repent to the Lord. Both "fully" and "honestly" are required. God gives chances so that no man or woman can whine on Judgement Day, "I didn't know God. It wasn't my fault.".  So, let the Philistine defense team stand and mock, we'll see who's standing when the dust clears and who's tucking tail and running. My money's on God and the prosecution, I've read the end of the Book. LOL!  MOO 
Well said ISpy!  My money is on GOD and the prosecution as well!  Here's to "Caylee Marie Anthony Day"!   ::MonkeyAngel::

I love your posts.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Me too! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:34:18 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28260895/detail.html


George Anthony Calls 911 On Bounty Hunter
Leonard Padilla Paid Casey Anthony's $500K Bond
POSTED: Thursday, June 16, 2011
UPDATED: 3:19 pm EDT June 16, 2011


ORLANDO, Fla. -- George Anthony called the Orange County Sheriff's Office Wednesday night because the bounty hunter that repeatedly bailed his daughter out of jail was in front of his house with a news crew.
According to the Sheriff's Office call log, Anthony believed he had an order to keep bounty hunter Leonard Padilla away from his home and after contacting his attorney, he called 911 to report that Padilla was in front of his home on Hopespring Drive.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Yoder1 on June 16, 2011, 03:34:53 PM
I wish the blinds could be raised in the courtroom so that all could see the balloons for Caylee being released.  Just a reminder that this is all about Caylee, in case anyone forgot.

That would be great



Wish Judge Perry could request one minute of silence in memory of Caylee Marie Anthony. That is a mental picure, isn't it? ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
My theory implies that Caylee died from a lethal overdose of chloroforum right in her own bedroom.  Think about it.  The change of clothes, duct tape, toy horse, blanket, laundry bag and sticker are all items connected with the Anthony home.

I do not believe that Caylee suffocated.  The duct tape was used after her demise to prevent the body fluids from escaping from the nose, mouth and ears ... a happening that encompanies the death process.

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: floridatreasure9 on June 16, 2011, 03:36:07 PM
As one of my favorite family members just said, "It's Caylee Marie Anthony Day!!".  Never fear monkeys, the battle belongs to the Lord!  No one has the right to murder what God has created. Casey, in her arrogance, set herself up as a god. He's a mighty warrior with a perfect battle record...she doesn't stand a chance. We're praying for wisdom, discernment, prudence, and self-control for Jeff and the prosecution.  We've prayed wisdom and discernment over the jurors (all of them).  We're thanking God that we aren't moved by theatrics and He's got it all under control.  The truth of the matter is, this time that Casey has left, is merely her last chances to fully confess and honestly repent to the Lord. Both "fully" and "honestly" are required. God gives chances so that no man or woman can whine on Judgement Day, "I didn't know God. It wasn't my fault.".  So, let the Philistine defense team stand and mock, we'll see who's standing when the dust clears and who's tucking tail and running. My money's on God and the prosecution, I've read the end of the Book. LOL!  MOO 
ITA - Amen and Amen.

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:36:15 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Check out the article on Casey in Time Mag today -- good one!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Love2Read on June 16, 2011, 03:36:51 PM
VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
WKMG reporting GA called 911 last night when Leonard Padilla was in front of his home with a news crew. #CaseyAnthony #HLN

http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)

Oh good grief, Padilla needs to ride off into the  sunset. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:38:09 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
I saw CSI Jen Welch in the hallway and called her "Boomarang Witness", cuz she keeps coming back. she laughed. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 03:38:35 PM
What is Bozo proving right now other than his client threw her daughter out like trash, like people toss things out their car windows?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 03:39:45 PM
What is Bozo proving right now other than his client threw her daughter out like trash, like people toss things out their car windows?   ::MonkeyEek::

whoooo knows! it's so aggravating!  i guess maybe he's gonna talk about where that other piece of duct tape is found or something. i dunno why the lanes are so important. it's just more nonsense for him to try to confuse the jury with


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:40:22 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Check out the article on Casey in Time Mag today -- good one!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2077937,00.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:40:35 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Amazingly -- the folks on the jury are paying careful attention!! What do they want us to see in this garbage? Do we know?

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:40:48 PM
What is Bozo proving right now other than his client threw her daughter out like trash, like people toss things out their car windows?   ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

That's about all he has proven. So much so the state doesn't bother to do a cross


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:41:00 PM
Short and sweet Linda  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 03:41:19 PM
that was AMAZING Linda


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 16, 2011, 03:41:22 PM
Go Linda!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 03:41:26 PM
I am having to hard time staying awake today.(http://i51.tinypic.com/smugsh.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:42:03 PM
that was AMAZING Linda

TRASH DUMP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Anna on June 16, 2011, 03:42:53 PM
What is Bozo proving right now other than his client threw her daughter out like trash, like people toss things out their car windows?   ::MonkeyEek::

I don't know but now I am thinking that Casey might have uaed this area as a trash dump before if it has her stickers all over it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 03:42:59 PM
Best question of the day goes to..........
Linda Drane-Burdick!!!
Would you classify the area where caylee marie's remains were found as a trash dump?
answer.. yes, I would  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:43:00 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
#caseyanthony def is showing photo after photo of garbage collected near Caylees remains. that were NOT sent to lab.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:43:00 PM
Next Defense witness victm Lori Gottesman, FBI lab div


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 16, 2011, 03:43:21 PM
Way to go, Linda!!  Emphasis the area she threw Caylee out was a trash dump!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 03:43:38 PM

 ::rhino:: i fully believe that the state is going to wipe the floor of the defense team during cross examination!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
Um she has her glasses upside down  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 03:44:15 PM
I couldn't tell, did anyone see anything significant in those photos?

I see Ruth Buzzi is in court today.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 16, 2011, 03:45:06 PM
Um she has her glasses upside down  ::MonkeyHaHa::
That's what it looks like.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 03:45:06 PM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/ca.jpg)


(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/ca1.jpg)


(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/ca4.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 03:45:12 PM
Um she has her glasses upside down  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She's also wearing her Wilma Flintstone necklace.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:45:55 PM
Um she has her glasses upside down  ::MonkeyHaHa::
She's also wearing her Wilma Flintstone necklace.

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 16, 2011, 03:46:00 PM
Um she has her glasses upside down  ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:46:19 PM
I couldn't tell, did anyone see anything significant in those photos?

I see Ruth Buzzi is in court today.



NO, its irrelevant trash....Bozo is going to imply that a thorough investigation was not conducted, well he's welcome to pay  for TRASH unrelated to the murder his client committed to get analyzed  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 03:46:21 PM
What's this witness gonna talk about, anymonkey  know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:47:12 PM
 ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Witness is Lorie Godtesman, FBI documents expert. #caseyanthony def says she contaminnated exidence

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Samarie on June 16, 2011, 03:48:27 PM
What's this witness gonna talk about, anymonkey  know?

Is this FBI employee the one whose "DNA" was found on the duct tape?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:48:32 PM
Document examination...the diary?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 16, 2011, 03:48:55 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/16/2270117/defense-focuses-on-dna-in-anthony.html
Defense focuses on DNA in Anthony trial
By KYLE HIGHTOWER
Associated Press 06/16/2011


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/16/2270117/defense-focuses-on-dna-in-anthony.html#ixzz1PTCx09de


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Girlzrock on June 16, 2011, 03:49:00 PM
What's this witness gonna talk about, anymonkey  know?

Is this FBI employee the one whose "DNA" was found on the duct tape?

Yes , that is my understanding....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:49:17 PM
Document examination...the diary?
You think the defense would bring that in?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TvPolice on June 16, 2011, 03:49:23 PM
My theory implies that Caylee died from a lethal overdose of chloroforum right in her own bedroom.  Think about it.  The change of clothes, duct tape, toy horse, blanket, laundry bag and sticker are all items connected with the Anthony home.

I do not believe that Caylee suffocated.  The duct tape was used after her demise to prevent the body fluids from escaping from the nose, mouth and ears ... a happening that encompanies the death process.

IMO

Janet

I think it was an overdose but I believe the tape was just part of her kidnap story cover. I do not think she knew about decomp and body fluids


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:49:23 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Jurors 11 and 12 shared a tiny smirk when Linda had the witness classify the area as a "trash dump." Thats what they'll remember.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:49:25 PM
What's this witness gonna talk about, anymonkey  know?

Is this FBI employee the one whose "DNA" was found on the duct tape?

Yes , that is my understanding....

or that lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:49:51 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Jurors 11 and 12 shared a tiny smirk when Linda had the witness classify the area as a "trash dump." Thats what they'll remember.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)

Good sign


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 16, 2011, 03:49:56 PM
Okay, that makes sense.  I was thinking Bozo wouldn't haul in the journal info.  I'm not sure why he'd do that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Girlzrock on June 16, 2011, 03:50:15 PM
What's this witness gonna talk about, anymonkey  know?

Is this FBI employee the one whose "DNA" was found on the duct tape?

Yes , that is my understanding....

I read that here, I think.. but why would she handle the duct tape?  Since she is a document expert.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:50:35 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Gottesman is accepted as an expert. jurors are paying attn to her. Not as much note-taking right now. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:50:45 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Jurors 11 and 12 shared a tiny smirk when Linda had the witness classify the area as a "trash dump." Thats what they'll remember.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)
I sure hope so!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Samarie on June 16, 2011, 03:51:23 PM
Document examination...the diary?
You think the defense would bring that in?

The DT is dumb enough to bring in the diary. I hope they do and the the state will show that although an entry is dated 2003, the diary was not available until 2004...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 03:51:27 PM
Document examination...the diary?
You think the defense would bring that in?

A sensible def, no but Im not sure what else to expect from these clowns.  That being said I dont believe that is what she is testifying to


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 16, 2011, 03:51:39 PM
Um she has her glasses upside down  ::MonkeyHaHa::

She certainly does.    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 03:51:58 PM


I read that here, I think.. but why would she handle the duct tape?  Since she is a document expert.

I wonder that also


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Samarie on June 16, 2011, 03:53:39 PM
What's this witness gonna talk about, anymonkey  know?

Is this FBI employee the one whose "DNA" was found on the duct tape?

Yes , that is my understanding....

Could be transfer DNA....

I read that here, I think.. but why would she handle the duct tape?  Since she is a document expert.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Love2Read on June 16, 2011, 03:53:54 PM
Um she has her glasses upside down  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Glad to know it is not just me that thinks that! LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:55:13 PM
Is this going to be about the trunk stain?  I had to step away....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Samarie on June 16, 2011, 03:55:33 PM
What's this witness gonna talk about, anymonkey  know?

Is this FBI employee the one whose "DNA" was found on the duct tape?

Yes , that is my understanding....

Could be transfer DNA....

I read that here, I think.. but why would she handle the duct tape?  Since she is a document expert.

Ooops ::MonkeyEek::

Could be transfer DNA....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:55:56 PM
Is this going to be about the trunk stain?  I had to step away....
Never mind! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
Um she has her glasses upside down  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Glad to know it is not just me that thinks that! LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm pretty sure it's just a strange frame.  The nose piece is correct.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 16, 2011, 03:58:08 PM
My theory implies that Caylee died from a lethal overdose of chloroforum right in her own bedroom.  Think about it.  The change of clothes, duct tape, toy horse, blanket, laundry bag and sticker are all items connected with the Anthony home.

I do not believe that Caylee suffocated.  The duct tape was used after her demise to prevent the body fluids from escaping from the nose, mouth and ears ... a happening that encompanies the death process.

IMO

Janet

I think it was an overdose but I believe the tape was just part of her kidnap story cover. I do not think she knew about decomp and body fluids

You could be right.  Until the truth is revealed speculation is where it is at.

Could it be that change of clothes implies to that the release of feces/bodily fluids which accompanies the death process was already happening?  Could it be that Casey used the duct tape to prevent the further release of bodily fluids?

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 03:58:44 PM
INSessions is saying she will testify to the heart shape on the duct tape.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 03:59:06 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Just sneezed one of my loud sneezes again. This time, #judgeperry gave me a look. I need to learn how to sneeze quietly.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Yoder1 on June 16, 2011, 03:59:17 PM
::snipping2::
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Trial/Image83-2.png)

 ::snipping2::



This photo speaks volumes. ::MonkeyNoNo::

May I ask what volumes it speaks?  I have always felt there as more to this letter than just this page...JMO of course















We know Ccasey destroyed Caylee, but in this letter, Caylee is listed last, just an "also." This point along with others.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 03:59:18 PM
Are they going to compare the duct tape? The way it was cut?

I have no clue what he is doing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
George Anthony calls deputies on Leonard Padilla

ORLANDO -- 
The Orange County Sheriff's Office was called out to the Anthony home Wednesday afternoon.

Deputies said George Anthony called them after bounty hunter Leonard Padilla went to the Hopespring Drive home with a television crew around 5 p.m.

Padilla was told to leave the Anthonys alone.

Deputies said he then left.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/264076?cmpid=caseytwitter


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 16, 2011, 04:00:29 PM
3:10pm Thursday, June 16, 2011 Court is in session and back from a break.

Next Defense witness is Robin Maynard.

Baez is up............

She is the founder and president of Libby's Co.  In Dec 2008 she was a CSI for the OC Sheriff's Office.  Baez is showing her a photo.  It is of a card board mat with a pink,red heart shaped material.  When you collect an item of evidence like that, what do you do to record an item like that?  I was in the sifting operation.  A map couldn't be made in the area where I was, so I would sift and the evidence was collected.  I would note on the bucket where the item was located, which lane.  What lane was this in?  Lane 6, 45 feet from the baseline.  He is showing her a photo that is stipulated that it is not to scale.  He forgot to publish the heart photo to the jury, he is putting it back up.  Now he is showing where on that photo it shows which lane and where it was found.  She circled the information.  He is now putting up a photo of the map, she is showing where lane 6 is and where 45 feet from the baseline would be in lane 6.  He wants to know where the bones were found?  She says the bones that were sifted can not be exact, they were in buckets of material that needed to be sifted.  There were 13 bones that were found through sifting.  She put them down on the map according to where the bones were found.  Was there a bone found in this area?  She said yes there was a bone found in that area, she is not sure where it was located.  No cross.  She is excused.

Next defense witness is Ron Murdock.

He was also a state's witness.  he is a supervisor in the OC Sheriff's Office in the forensic unit.  Baez is asking him to hook up a display.  He is doing that with his laptop.  Can you draw a circle around the area in lane 6, 45 feet from the baseline, can you show us how far from the skull the heart-shaped sticker was found?  Baez is publishing it to the jury.  How far is the distance from the skull are to the area the heart-shaped sticker was found?  30feet.  He wants him to mark that with an X.  He is marking that location on a piece of paper.  Baez is done. No cross.

The witness is excused.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Love2Read on June 16, 2011, 04:01:20 PM
Are they going to compare the duct tape? The way it was cut?

I have no clue what he is doing

I don't think Bobo knows either.  JMO ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 04:01:31 PM
Oh nevermind


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 16, 2011, 04:01:51 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/264076?cmpid=caseytwitter
George Anthony calls deputies on Leonard Padilla

Last Updated: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:51 PM

The Orange County Sheriff's Office was called out to the Anthony home Wednesday afternoon.

Deputies said George Anthony called them after bounty hunter Leonard Padilla went to the Hopespring Drive home with a television crew around 5 p.m.

Padilla was told to leave the Anthonys alone.

Deputies said he then left.

Back in 2008, Padilla bonded Casey out of jail, hoping she would lead him to Caylee.

When he said Casey would not cooperate, he started his own search.

Caylee's remains were found Dec. 11, 2008 in a wooded area near her home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: DonFL on June 16, 2011, 04:03:29 PM
She's as boring and as hard to follow as bozo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 04:03:53 PM
There was another chick who testified for the prosecution who did see the heart shape residue.  He's trying to counter her testimony.

The other girl seemed to be more on the ball.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 16, 2011, 04:04:28 PM
There was another chick who testified for the prosecution who did see the heart shape residue.  He's trying to counter her testimony.

The other girl seemed to be more on the ball.
  This chick can barely get out an answer sometimes . ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 16, 2011, 04:04:42 PM
is he trying to show that maybe it wasn't her that decontaminated it but someone else who had access to the remains scene?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 16, 2011, 04:05:27 PM
is he trying to show that maybe it wasn't her that decontaminated it but someone else who had access to the remains scene?
Yes, Kronk's fingerprint... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 16, 2011, 04:05:55 PM
I left when they went to lunch and was wondering how JA did on cross of the FBI lady?  I think she expanded her answers and didn't just answer what was asked.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
There was another chick who testified for the prosecution who did see the heart shape residue.  He's trying to counter her testimony.

The other girl seemed to be more on the ball.


She's sort of spacey ...maybe nervous.
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: flamom on June 16, 2011, 04:06:32 PM
what a waste of a full court day..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 16, 2011, 04:07:37 PM
My theory implies that Caylee died from a lethal overdose of chloroforum right in her own bedroom.  Think about it.  The change of clothes, duct tape, toy horse, blanket, laundry bag and sticker are all items connected with the Anthony home.

I do not believe that Caylee suffocated.  The duct tape was used after her demise to prevent the body fluids from escaping from the nose, mouth and ears ... a happening that encompanies the death process.

IMO

Janet


I think she was murdered in Casey's room on the night of the 15th and the duct tape was reinforcement should the chloroforum not be sufficient as well as keeping her quiet should she cry out before she died. Cindy said she thought Caylee was there on the morning of the 16th and I would ask Cindy if it was normal for her not to peek in on Caylee in the mornings before leaving for work because that whole morning has been brushed over by both her and George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 16, 2011, 04:08:25 PM
ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
#caseyanthony Jurors taking notes on this witness.

http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh (http://twitter.com/#!/ABCAshleigh)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 04:09:07 PM
Hope the FBI replaces this lady.....
Seems like they need some better, on the ball so to speak.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 04:09:30 PM
Well, now, wasn't that special!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Casey%20Anthony%20MURDER%20TRIAL-Defense/bozoflirt.jpg)

Looks like, bad mouth.....
 ::boxingbaez2::

I am telling you he has the hots on her. Watch his actions with her and his looks at her. I think KC knows it too as she almost snarls when he does it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 04:09:51 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Just sneezed one of my loud sneezes again. This time, #judgeperry gave me a look. I need to learn how to sneeze quietly.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)
I wonder if Casey thinks it's a sign from her "Daddy"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 16, 2011, 04:10:12 PM
There was another chick who testified for the prosecution who did see the heart shape residue.  He's trying to counter her testimony.

The other girl seemed to be more on the ball.


She's sort of spacey ...maybe nervous.
 ::MonkeyBike::

I believe I heard her say she's been with the FBI just shy of 20 years and she's testified in court~ 20 times?  Geesh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 04:10:37 PM
"the suspects"   Bozo sit down....realize the contents before trying an Aha moment...FAILED


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 04:10:49 PM
Hope the FBI replaces this lady.....
Seems like they need some better, on the ball so to speak.

 ::MonkeyEek::

She sounds dingy and like she does not have a clue what she is talking about which goes over poorly with the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 04:11:33 PM
Are they gonna ask for a recess till tomorrow?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 04:11:47 PM
"the suspects"   Bozo sit down....realize the contents before trying an Aha moment...FAILED

That disproves his many statements that they were looking at no one but KC doesn't it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Jesse on June 16, 2011, 04:11:59 PM
is it just me i dont see him making any headway at all just wasting our time


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 04:12:28 PM
There was another chick who testified for the prosecution who did see the heart shape residue.  He's trying to counter her testimony.

The other girl seemed to be more on the ball.


She's sort of spacey ...maybe nervous.
 ::MonkeyBike::

I believe I heard her say she's been with the FBI just shy of 20 years and she's testified in court~ 20 times?  Geesh!

I can see why no one would want her as their witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 04:12:51 PM
is it just me i dont see him making any headway at all just wasting our time

"WASTE - BIG WASTE"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 16, 2011, 04:13:10 PM
"the suspects"   Bozo sit down....realize the contents before trying an Aha moment...FAILED

That disproves his many statements that they were looking at no one but KC doesn't it?
Yes it does....she used the word in plural form.  Although I'm glad JA objected.....we don't need to go through that again.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 04:13:13 PM
I missed Baez's AHA attempt.  What happened?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 16, 2011, 04:13:49 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/264076?cmpid=caseytwitter
George Anthony calls deputies on Leonard Padilla

Last Updated: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:51 PM

The Orange County Sheriff's Office was called out to the Anthony home Wednesday afternoon.

Deputies said George Anthony called them after bounty hunter Leonard Padilla went to the Hopespring Drive home with a television crew around 5 p.m.

Padilla was told to leave the Anthonys alone.

Deputies said he then left.

Back in 2008, Padilla bonded Casey out of jail, hoping she would lead him to Caylee.

When he said Casey would not cooperate, he started his own search.

Caylee's remains were found Dec. 11, 2008 in a wooded area near her home.

What was this all about wonder?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 16, 2011, 04:13:54 PM
3:30pm Thursday June 16, 2011 Court is in session.

Next defense witness is Jennifer Welch.

She also testified for the state.  She is a CSI for the OC Sheriff's Office.  Baez says they have entered into a stipulation for various exhibits. There are 7 exhibits in all.  You were in charge of documenting the scene on Suburban Dr?  Yes.  Were there a lot of items at the scene, trash?  Yes.  Over 300 items were collected?  Yes.  At some point did you just stop collecting trash?  Some big items, eventually.  Were there any bones found past a certain area?  No.  He is showing her a photo.  Does that appear to be items from sifting?  No they were just collected, not from sifting, they were not sent to the lab.  He is showing her another photos of items collected.  Were any of these items sent to the lab for testing?  No.  What lane were these in?  Collected from lane 4.  He is showing her another photo of items collected, they were not sent to the lab, they came from lane 1.  Next photo shows he shows her lane 1 and lane 4.  He  is  now showing her another photo of items collected, they were not sent to the lab, they were found in lane 3.  Now showing her another photo of items collected, they were not sent to the lab, they were collected from lane 3.  Now showing another photo of items collected, they were not sent to lab, they were found in the clearing east of the wooded area near the fence.  Baez is done.

Linda is up........

Inv. Welch would it be fair to classify the area that Caylee Marie's remains were found in as a trash dump?  Yes.  Witness is excused.

Next witness is Lorie Gottesman.

She is the supervisory forensic examiner for the FBI.  She has been there for 20 years.  She has lots of education.   What is a question document examiner?  She examines all kinds of evidence and compares question items with know items for known origin.  What training do you have in that?  Intensive training at the FBI.  She examines any type of written items, torn items, doesn't have to be a document.  She is a member of many scientific societies.  She has been an expert in court before more than 20 times.  She is declared an expert witness in Question Document Examination.  Do you work with various instruments?  Yes, the Esta Machine, the VSC a tool used for a variety of reasons, lights and filters, a camera, a monitor, she is able to see different spectrum's of light with it.  He is referring her to her report.  She received 3 pieces of duct tape, Q62, Q63, Q64.  They came from the victim, herself.  She is looking at her report so see where the items came from.  They came from the ME's Office.  What were you asked to look at these 3 pieces of duct tape for?  I was asked to look for a heart-shape or any remnants from one.  Did you use the VSC for this?  Yes.  Baez is showing a photo of the VSC in use with documents.  She is explaining to the jury how it works. It allows you to see, the human eyes cannot see.  She tried to see if she could see any residue of the heart-shaped sticker with the VSC.  After using all the different lights and filters, she was unable to find any sticker fragments or residue.  Was there any evidence of a sticker on these pieces of duct tape.  No.  After you conducted your examination were you asked to submit a DNA sample?  Yes. Why?  They found an unknown profile from a piece of the duct tape and they needed to eliminate it.  She gave them her DNA and later found out it was her DNA on the duct tape.  When she handled the duct tape, she handled it with care.  She wore gloves.  She has no idea how it happened or when?  You at no time sneezed on it or anything like that?  No sir.  Were they in protective material?  Yes, they were in a glassine material.  You exercised great care with these items?  Yes.  Were you given other items of evidence in this case?  Yes.  He is referring her to her report.  He is referring to trash items.  What were you asked to do in this report?  I was given a number of pieces of plastic and give an overall assessment of the plastic and try to match it with other pieces of plastic.  She was not able to match any of the bags found at the remains scene to the Anthony home.  Baez is done.

Jeff is up.........

You got the duct tape after latent print had already examined it? Yes, you knew they had saw something and noted it and then could not find it again?  Yes.  You tried to find pieces of garbage bags that matched known bags from the crime scene?  I tried to compare the bags from the ME's office to bags found at the Anthony's residence?  Yes and they did not match up.  Some of them she could say no, they were not a match and some were inconclusive.  Jeff is done.

Baez is up.....

When talking about the duct tape, you were asked to compare DNA from the suspects....Sustained.  Witness is excused and may go back home to Virginia.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: pharlap on June 16, 2011, 04:14:30 PM
Hope the FBI replaces this lady.....
Seems like they need some better, on the ball so to speak.

 ::MonkeyEek::

She sounds dingy and like she does not have a clue what she is talking about which goes over poorly with the jury.

For all we know, she might of not done the test correctly...
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: west941 on June 16, 2011, 04:14:38 PM
I missed Baez's AHA attempt.  What happened?

He missed it too.. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 04:15:15 PM
I missed Baez's AHA attempt.  What happened?

He missed it too.. ::MonkeyWink::
Why does that not surprise me? ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 16, 2011, 04:15:20 PM
THE DEFENSE CALLS....Cary Oien, FBI Section Chief with FBI approx 15 years


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 20- 6/16/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 16, 2011, 04:15:47 PM