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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 17, 2011, 05:18:23 AM
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FOR LIVE HEARINGS, THESE ARE THE USUAL LINKS:

No refresh clicking required:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream


Split Screen/No refresh Clicking Required:

http://www.youtube.com/user/weshtv#p/l/EUke1XT5_5Q

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


Other live stream sites:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live


http://www.wftv.com/video/27049808/index.html

* Constantly on Casey

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive2/index.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.wesh.com/video/27050096/detail.html

iPhone App:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/casey-anthony-updates/id428240236?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

Android App:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsn.localnews147

SKYFIRE - MOBILE BROWSER FOR iPhone and Android:
http://www.skyfire.com/

MAGIC EYES - Trial Recaps:  
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10358.0

 ::MonkeyJustice::



Now that we are finally starting the trial, all Off Topic posts will be moved to the MURDER TRIAL BREAK ROOM without comment to the poster, it will just happen.  Please keep that in mind.  It is too hard for people to catch up if they have to wade thru Off Topic too.  TIA

BREAK ROOM THREAD

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9923.0

Helpful abbreviations

CJBP - Chief Justice Belvin Perry
JA  -    Jeff Ashton
LDB  -  Linda Drane Burdick
FG   -   Frank George


JB  -  Jose Baez - also Bozo, Bumbles, azzhat, Tweedle Dum, etc.  There are so many, I can't think of them all.  I'm sure the blanks will be filled in.
CM -  Cheney Mason - also Mumbles, Colonel Crusty etc.
DCS - Dorothy Clay Simms - Brillo Head, ICA's babysitter and coddler
LKB -  Linda Kenney Baden - no longer on the DT(Defense Team/Dream Team) but still spreading falsities on air
AL  -  Andrea Lyon  - no longer on the DT(Defense Team/Dream Team)

GA - George Anthony
CA - Cindy Anthony - SINdy, Spindy
LA -  Lee Anthony  -  Tubesocks

DP-death penalty
LWOP - life without parole
SA - State attorney

IIRC - if I recall correctly
BBM - bold by me
^5 - high five
ITA - I totally agree
MOO - My Opinion Only
FWIW - for what it's worth
JMO- just my opinion
JMHO- just my honest (or humble) opinion
LOL- laugh out loud
ROFL- roll on the floor laughing
BBL- be back later
IIRC- if I recall correctly

NG-Nancy Grace
AH- Amy Huzienga


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 06:03:39 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  ::MonkeyHang::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 06:23:10 AM
GM....

Posts: 1117
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 21 - 6/17/11
« Reply #2088 on: June 18, 2011, 04:55:34 AM »
Quote from: TURBOTHINK on June 17, 2011, 09:51:48 PM
The Anthony's new theme song.......with thanks to Jefferson Airplane (written by Grace Slick)

Your magic white rabbit
Has left it's writing on the wall
We follow like Alice
And just keep diving down the hole
We're falling and we're losing control
Your pulling us and dragging us down this dead end road
We follow like Alice
And just keep diving down the hole

You can't offer your poison to me
In your kingdom of filth
White Rabbit
Straight jacket


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 06:36:58 AM
I was thinking about some of the unfortunate nicknames that could be added to our cast of characters;
bugboy/pigboy
lawyer gaga
neck-brace guy
?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 06:50:23 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/18/florida.casey.anthony.trial/
Anthony defense team may lose potential witness
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 18, 2011 6:11 a.m. EDT

CNN) -- As the defense case for accused daughter-killer Casey Anthony enters its third day Saturday, attorneys for the Florida woman may be scrambling to recover from the potential loss of a witness who publicly denied having any relevance to the trial.

Anthony's attorneys had sought to question convicted felon Vasco Thompson about his relationship with the defendant's father, George Anthony. It is not clear how the 52-year-old convicted kidnapper may have fit into the defense team strategy.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:05:08 AM
 ::justice2NJ::  Justice for Caylee Marie  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 07:11:45 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/265206/Day-22:-Can-Casey-Anthonys-defense-bounce-back-after-single-witness-day
Day 22: Can Casey Anthony's defense bounce back after single-witness day?
(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/casey-anthony-cheney-mason-0618.jpg)
Casey Anthony suppresses a laugh, looking at defense counsel Cheney Mason, after Assistant State Attorney Jeff Ashton references 'pigs in a blanket' during cross of entomologist Dr. Tim Huntington, on day 21 of her 1st-degree murder trial.

By Jacqueline Fell and Amanda Evans, Team Coverage
Last Updated: Saturday, June 18, 2011 6:56 AM
ORLANDO --

Testimony will resume Saturday morning in the Casey Anthony trial after the defense only got through a single witness the day before.

After tense moments in court Friday, Judge Belvin Perry said he wants attorneys on both sides in court at 8:30 a.m. Saturday to discuss some matters before the jury returns and testimony resumes.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cherjers on June 18, 2011, 07:13:38 AM
Good Morning Monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 07:16:19 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/18/florida.casey.anthony.trial/
Anthony defense team may lose potential witness
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 18, 2011 6:11 a.m. EDT

CNN) -- As the defense case for accused daughter-killer Casey Anthony enters its third day Saturday, attorneys for the Florida woman may be scrambling to recover from the potential loss of a witness who publicly denied having any relevance to the trial.

Anthony's attorneys had sought to question convicted felon Vasco Thompson about his relationship with the defendant's father, George Anthony. It is not clear how the 52-year-old convicted kidnapper may have fit into the defense team strategy.
 ::snipping2::
Oh I think it’s perfectly clear what the defenses strategy is to put Vasco Thompson on the stand was. They are trying to grasp anything they can to create reasonable doubt in the jurors mind. It is going to backfire in their face though because this convicted felon did not have that phone number during the time in question. I am sure everyone has seen interviews of Vasco Thompson yesterday and last night. It makes the defense team look desperate. Which is fine for me. (http://i53.tinypic.com/9kulo3.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cherjers on June 18, 2011, 07:18:34 AM
iS THERE ANY REASON  THE COURT CAN NOT HAND OUT TICKETS TO THE FIRST PEOPLE IN LINE-SO THERE IS SOME ORDER-THEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESON FOR EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE GROUND-LIKE THIS IS A ROCK CONCERT.   ONCE THE FIFTY TICKETS ON HANDED OUT-ITS OVER GO HOME


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cherjers on June 18, 2011, 07:21:05 AM
iS THERE ANY REASON  THE COURT CAN NOT HAND OUT TICKETS TO THE FIRST PEOPLE IN LINE-SO THERE IS SOME ORDER-THEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESON FOR EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE GROUND-LIKE THIS IS A ROCK CONCERT.   ONCE THE FIFTY TICKETS ON HANDED OUT-ITS OVER GO HOME
SORRY ABOUT THE SLOPPY POST--JUST HAVING MY FIRST COFFEE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:23:20 AM
iS THERE ANY REASON  THE COURT CAN NOT HAND OUT TICKETS TO THE FIRST PEOPLE IN LINE-SO THERE IS SOME ORDER-THEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESON FOR EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE GROUND-LIKE THIS IS A ROCK CONCERT.   ONCE THE FIFTY TICKETS ON HANDED OUT-ITS OVER GO HOME
SORRY ABOUT THE SLOPPY POST--JUST HAVING MY FIRST COFFEE


Just take off the caps.  It's too loud this early in the morning.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
I read yesterday they were implementing a new system to folks didn't have to camp out.  The post is somewhere in yesterdays Trial Thread and I might be able to find it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 07:24:42 AM
iS THERE ANY REASON  THE COURT CAN NOT HAND OUT TICKETS TO THE FIRST PEOPLE IN LINE-SO THERE IS SOME ORDER-THEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESON FOR EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE GROUND-LIKE THIS IS A ROCK CONCERT.   ONCE THE FIFTY TICKETS ON HANDED OUT-ITS OVER GO HOME
Have you seen this about a new ticket system?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-17/news/os-casey-anthony-line-fight-courthous20110617_1_anthony-trial-casey-anthony-trial-tickets


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:26:09 AM
iS THERE ANY REASON  THE COURT CAN NOT HAND OUT TICKETS TO THE FIRST PEOPLE IN LINE-SO THERE IS SOME ORDER-THEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESON FOR EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE GROUND-LIKE THIS IS A ROCK CONCERT.   ONCE THE FIFTY TICKETS ON HANDED OUT-ITS OVER GO HOME
Have you seen this about a new ticket system?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-17/news/os-casey-anthony-line-fight-courthous20110617_1_anthony-trial-casey-anthony-trial-tickets

Thanks alagary.  I was just going to go search for that for cherjers. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cherjers on June 18, 2011, 07:29:14 AM
iS THERE ANY REASON  THE COURT CAN NOT HAND OUT TICKETS TO THE FIRST PEOPLE IN LINE-SO THERE IS SOME ORDER-THEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESON FOR EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE GROUND-LIKE THIS IS A ROCK CONCERT.   ONCE THE FIFTY TICKETS ON HANDED OUT-ITS OVER GO HOME
SORRY ABOUT THE SLOPPY POST--JUST HAVING MY FIRST COFFEE


Just take off the caps.  It's too loud this early in the morning.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
I read yesterday they were implementing a new system to folks didn't have to camp out.  The post is somewhere in yesterdays Trial Thread and I might be able to find it.  
 Thanks I heard someone yelling -just dint know it was me- ::MonkeyTongue::-I will look for the post
Edit to fix quote. missing bracket.  MB  Look up, alagary already posted a link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:39:47 AM
Monkeys are already gathering today for justice for Caylee:

MuffyBee, alagary, _icey_, pharlap, TexasBarMom, cherjers, Mary, Riley and 14 Guests are viewing this topic.

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 07:43:38 AM
Just a reminder , something starts getting argued about at 8:30


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 07:44:21 AM
So if I read this article right one person can't attend the trial 2 days in a row because they hand out tickets at 4pm and the trial ends each day at 5pm. That seems fair to everyone wanting to attend.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-17/news/os-casey-anthony-line-fight-courthous20110617_1_anthony-trial-casey-anthony-trial-tickets




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 07:44:24 AM
Good mornin', monkeys!  Can't wait to see what that wonderful defense team has in store for us today.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:50:59 AM
So if I read this article right one person can't attend the trial 2 days in a row because they hand out tickets at 4pm and the trial ends each day at 5pm. That seems fair to everyone wanting to attend.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-17/news/os-casey-anthony-line-fight-courthous20110617_1_anthony-trial-casey-anthony-trial-tickets




Yes, it  seems  fair to me too.   ::rhino::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 07:51:45 AM
Good morning , Riley, MuffyBee, alagary, New Monkey, SweetMorgan, michelete2, TexasBarMom, Rizzy and 11 Guests are viewing this topic.
On my first cup of coffee too. (http://i55.tinypic.com/mmsuwg.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: theboyzmom on June 18, 2011, 07:55:06 AM
Good morning monkey friends - I hope there is more than one "expert" on the stand today. My son came home last night and asked who else testified and when I told him only the bug guy he said WTH - poor bug guy. We have the big graduation party today so I will be in and out but I appreciate all the updates!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:55:42 AM
Good mornin', monkeys!  Can't wait to see what that wonderful defense team has in store for us today.   ::MonkeyEek::

Oh boy, yeah.  I wonder if that has anything to do with this:

(Hat Tip:  Trimmonthelake)
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/265206/Day-22:-Can-Casey-Anthonys-defense-bounce-back-after-single-witness-day
 ::snipping2::
After tense moments in court Friday, Judge Belvin Perry said he wants attorneys on both sides in court at 8:30 a.m. Saturday to discuss some matters before the jury returns and testimony resumes.
 ::snipping2::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:59:23 AM
Good morning monkey friends - I hope there is more than one "expert" on the stand today. My son came home last night and asked who else testified and when I told him only the bug guy he said WTH - poor bug guy. We have the big graduation party today so I will be in and out but I appreciate all the updates!

There was only one "expert" on the stand yesterday, which was the bug guy. And what a long day it was.  But just think how much mileage Jeff Ashton got out of it!!  Not only did he make mincemeat out of the bug guy, but it also allowed Ashton to hammer home other significant details to the jury. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 07:59:38 AM
Article about last nights Dateline;
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/06/casey-anthony-summers-greatest-mystery-story-do-you-agree.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cherjers on June 18, 2011, 08:01:54 AM
iS THERE ANY REASON  THE COURT CAN NOT HAND OUT TICKETS TO THE FIRST PEOPLE IN LINE-SO THERE IS SOME ORDER-THEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESON FOR EVERYONE SLEEPING ON THE GROUND-LIKE THIS IS A ROCK CONCERT.   ONCE THE FIFTY TICKETS ON HANDED OUT-ITS OVER GO HOME
Have you seen this about a new ticket system?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-06-17/news/os-casey-anthony-line-fight-courthous20110617_1_anthony-trial-casey-anthony-trial-tickets

Thanks alagary.  I was just going to go search for that for cherjers. 
   Thanks to both of you for yur help


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 08:07:41 AM
Good Morning Monks and guests.......it's too early to ride my bike this morning!

http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/


who Is the Most Insufferable Talking Head?


Let’s face it: this trial has brought out some of the biggest dingbats in talking head history. Listening to them argue the most nonsensical defense theories imaginable leaves my brain feeling like that dotted high school wall. You know the one.

So who is the worst of the worst?

Shrill Shoutress, Wendy “don’t confuse me with the facts” Murphy.

President of the Defense Team Insanity Brigade, Jane “the louder I whine, the more convincing I must be” Weintraub.

Braindead bromantic love interest of Jose Baez and professional 70′s porn ‘stache groomer, Gerrrrrrrrrrrraldo Rivera.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: theboyzmom on June 18, 2011, 08:12:35 AM
Good morning monkey friends - I hope there is more than one "expert" on the stand today. My son came home last night and asked who else testified and when I told him only the bug guy he said WTH - poor bug guy. We have the big graduation party today so I will be in and out but I appreciate all the updates!

There was only one "expert" on the stand yesterday, which was the bug guy. And what a long day it was.  But just think how much mileage Jeff Ashton got out of it!!  Not only did he make mincemeat out of the bug guy, but it also allowed Ashton to hammer home other significant details to the jury. 

Agreed - as someone that has spent lots of time in court rooms and hanging with attorneys - I was amazed and pleased with what was left of bug boy when Jeff got done. He is an incredible attorney and Caylee is well represented by him. I look forward to the day of the judgment of GUILTY of ALL counts for KC!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 08:16:11 AM
I was thinking about some of the unfortunate nicknames that could be added to our cast of characters;
bugboy/pigboy
lawyer gaga
neck-brace guy
?

Dorothy Sims~ Mrs. Roper (Three's Company)
Ann Finnel~ Bernie (Weekend at Bernies)
                   Pat (Saturday Night Live character, didn't know if it was male or female)
Mason~ Snuffy Smith?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 08:16:11 AM
I would love to know who Bozo was texting while standing at the podium yesterday. How disrespectful! Glad Ashton pointed that out to JP too.  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 08:16:40 AM
I was thinking about some of the unfortunate nicknames that could be added to our cast of characters;
bugboy/pigboy
lawyer gaga
neck-brace guy
?

Dorothy Sims~ Mrs. Roper (Three's Company)
Ann Finnel~ Bernie (Weekend at Bernies)
                   Pat (Saturday Night Live character, didn't know if it was male or female)
Mason~ Snuffy Smith, Emer Fudd?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 08:18:06 AM
I would love to know who Bozo was texting while standing at the podium yesterday. How disrespectful! Glad Ashton pointed that out to JP too.  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::boxingbaez2::

Maybe he was texting his "lifeline", the go to person or team of people he goes to when he's stumped.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 08:19:03 AM
Good morning Monkeys!

 ::MonkeyJustice:: for Caylee!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 08:23:40 AM
I was thinking about some of the unfortunate nicknames that could be added to our cast of characters;
bugboy/pigboy
lawyer gaga
neck-brace guy
?

Dorothy Sims~ Mrs. Roper (Three's Company)
Ann Finnel~ Bernie (Weekend at Bernies)
                   Pat (Saturday Night Live character, didn't know if it was male or female)
Mason~ Snuffy Smith, Emer Fudd?

LOL...mrs roper!

Yesterday hubby was making jokes that they resemble the stooges and I died laughing when he said Sims could be Larry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 08:24:45 AM
Good morning Monkeys!

 ::MonkeyJustice:: for Caylee!!!

Good morning Nick and Nora and all!

I sure hope they talk about something other than blow flies and garbage today. This boy is about tuckered out of all that boogery stuff.

I try to go my whole life without thinking about that crap.

-Justice for Caylee! ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 08:32:26 AM
Good morning Monkeys!

 ::MonkeyJustice:: for Caylee!!!

Good morning Nick and Nora and all!

I sure hope they talk about something other than blow flies and garbage today. This boy is about tuckered out of all that boogery stuff.

I try to go my whole life without thinking about that crap.

-Justice for Caylee! ::justice2NJ::

Morning Carpe....I too hope today is less on the icky side....ugh!!  I see people....did anyone see any confirmation that we were gonna see LKB at the defense table??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 08:32:48 AM
I just cannot get over how Casey sits there day after day, completely composed, listening to discussion on how her child lay in the woods decomposing with bugs eatting her up.  It doesn't matter which side is correct on "how" the bugs got to her, the fact is they did and she just sits there in la la land.

I wonder how the jury is taking all this in.  She pays more attention to the attorneys than she is this case and the witnesses. 

I would be scared chitless!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
I would love to know who Bozo was texting while standing at the podium yesterday. How disrespectful! Glad Ashton pointed that out to JP too.  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::boxingbaez2::

Maybe he was texting his "lifeline", the go to person or team of people he goes to when he's stumped.   ::MonkeyTongue::

LOL...morning everyone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 08:37:36 AM
I just cannot get over how Casey sits there day after day, completely composed, listening to discussion on how her child lay in the woods decomposing with bugs eatting her up.  It doesn't matter which side is correct on "how" the bugs got to her, the fact is they did and she just sits there in la la land.

I wonder how the jury is taking all this in.  She pays more attention to the attorneys than she is this case and the witnesses. 

I would be scared chitless!
I think she is getting off to all the publicity she has created. She was rubbing her hands together while smiling yesterday like she was ready to have some fun!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 08:38:00 AM
Agreed - as someone that has spent lots of time in court rooms and hanging with attorneys - I was amazed and pleased with what was left of bug boy when Jeff got done. He is an incredible attorney and Caylee is well represented by him. I look forward to the day of the judgment of GUILTY of ALL counts for KC!

The bug guy made everyone here in my home angry. Especially when he smiled before he said that little bit about Dr Vass not being an anthropologist by his understanding...and then Baez smiled all smug, making himself look even more weasely. Bug guy was painful to listen to, but wow oh wow oh wow, I've been impressed with Ashton before but after his beating of the bug guy...I am blown away!!  ::boxingjeffbaez::

What a beating the duhfense got!  ::boxingjeffbaez::  MORE PLEASE!!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:39:20 AM
People are gathering in the courtroom, saw Ashton walking by on WFTV


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 08:42:41 AM
sorry if this has already been posted



http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28278733/detail.html#ixzz1PbZ4LywH

Conflict Returns To Anthonys' Neighborhood
Memorial For Caylee Anthony Attracts Attention

POSTED: 11:59 pm EDT June 17, 2011
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[The Anthony family home in East Orange County.]
The Anthony family home in East Orange County.
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The drama has returned to the Anthonys' East Orange County neighborhood.

Neighbors endured the arguments and confrontations outside the Anthony home back in 2008, but now with renewed interest from the trial, a new memorial for Caylee Anthony is popping up and attracting attention.

STAY UPDATED: Casey iPhone App

A makeshift memorial site for Caylee had been set up right off the road in 2008. Now, to remember the young girl, case followers are actually walking some 20 feet back into the woods where investigators found her bones.

"I cried and I cried. It's so sad, so I came," said Margaret Lubrano.

Lubrano said she and her sister had been moved by Caylee's murder. They came from Louisiana to see the trial and trek through the woods to see the spot where investigators found Caylee's remains. It's where a new memorial is growing off Suburban Drive in East Orange County.

"It's just a way to remember her. This time three years ago, something horrible happened," said memorial visitor Shannon Mickey, of Orlando.

Not a day has gone by in the last three years that neighbors in the Anthonys' Chickasaw Park subdivision have been able to forget. Neighbors said cars constantly by drive the house like a tourist attraction.

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monken on June 18, 2011, 08:43:52 AM
Good morning All! I thought the judge wanted them there early today, at 8:30.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 08:44:19 AM
People are gathering in the courtroom, saw Ashton walking by on WFTV

Morning...please post the like from where you are watching.....if that makes sense....sometimes I can connect from someone's link, but can't from the one on the front page


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 18, 2011, 08:44:29 AM
I was thinking about some of the unfortunate nicknames that could be added to our cast of characters;
bugboy/pigboy
lawyer gaga
neck-brace guy
?

Dorothy Sims~ Mrs. Roper (Three's Company)
Ann Finnel~ Bernie (Weekend at Bernies)
                   Pat (Saturday Night Live character, didn't know if it was male or female)
Mason~ Snuffy Smith?

I finally figured out who Mason is--Gabby Johnson from Blazing Saddles!  Authentic Frontier Gibberish!
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 08:44:42 AM
Article about last nights Dateline;
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/06/casey-anthony-summers-greatest-mystery-story-do-you-agree.html
Thanks!  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 18, 2011, 08:46:02 AM
Mornin' Monkeys!  Ready for some serious state Smackdown! ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 08:46:43 AM
Holy carp! Bozo read my remarks regarding chit brown suits...now he's even trying to look like  a big boy lawyer! ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
The slore has taken her seat & she's gabbing & smiling away with Colonel Crusty.   All week she has been wearing button down shirts, as if that will change anything.   CJBP has taken the bench


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 08:47:41 AM
 ::boxingcasey2::

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/5845246600_aaf388a0a9_b.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: darla on June 18, 2011, 08:47:47 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

 ::justice2NJ:: One day closer to Justice for Caylee. Can't wait for the next smackdown!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 18, 2011, 08:47:48 AM
Casey seems awfully chipper...it looks like she was ignoring Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 18, 2011, 08:47:51 AM
I don't want to hear anymore about bugs or bodily fluids. 
Speak to me of incest, drowning and Kronks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 08:48:13 AM
zeesh...kc is wearing another slutty shirt...buttons that don't exactly close the shirt well so when she turns sideways...

I guess she figures since poor and frumpy wasn't working maybe she could try to appeal to the guys on the jury with something else??!!!

Can they not get some scotch tape and she can close those gaps at least?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:48:20 AM
Looks like Dr Warren Spitz may testify today   but Dr Bill Rodriquez is up next

Go Ashton is all I can muster with this early morning Sat coffee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 08:48:41 AM
Dr. Bill Rodriguez - first witness today for the Defense


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 08:49:21 AM
KC and Mason are all giggly and whispery this morning.....sickening...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 18, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
I know why Casey and L. Frye are whispering behind their hands, but it annoys the hell out of me.  It just looks so childish!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 08:50:20 AM
Defense calls Dr. William Rodriguez


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:51:33 AM
Dr William Rodriquez, the next tool for the defense has taken the stand giving a very long name for himself   Oy!

First I want to say I am here as an unpaid consultant - who the F states that off the bat - o boy!

Forensic Anthropologist - o this man will be toast quickly  ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 08:51:42 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  Good Morning Monkeys!

The Dateline program from last night, which was really pretty good, until the last segment....then the liars appeared.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/#43446277


                                                     JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE



I see we are starting off this morning with more BS!!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 08:52:09 AM
Dr. Bill Rodriguez - first witness today for the Defense

Employed with the US Armed Forces Medical Examiners Office

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/5845256366_d0f51b62c7_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 08:52:26 AM
I was thinking about some of the unfortunate nicknames that could be added to our cast of characters;
bugboy/pigboy
lawyer gaga
neck-brace guy
?

Dorothy Sims~ Mrs. Roper (Three's Company)
Ann Finnel~ Bernie (Weekend at Bernies)
                   Pat (Saturday Night Live character, didn't know if it was male or female)
Mason~ Snuffy Smith?

I finally figured out who Mason is--Gabby Johnson from Blazing Saddles!  Authentic Frontier Gibberish!
<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ke5Mr5eCF2U?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ke5Mr5eCF2U?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

ROFL!!!

I haven't seen that movie in so long! LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 08:54:36 AM
geez! good thing I logged in when I did..I thought court started at 9 today, 8 my time...
morning everyone..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 08:55:58 AM
Started earlier than I thought it would as well.  Haven't had my first cup yet! 

Good morning everyone!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 08:56:05 AM
People are gathering in the courtroom, saw Ashton walking by on WFTV

Morning...please post the like from where you are watching.....if that makes sense....sometimes I can connect from someone's link, but can't from the one on the front page
Try one this again , I think less watching means less buffering;
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 08:56:30 AM
So this guy is a forensic anthro..I thought Bug Boy yesterday was so skilled in all areas, according to him, he covered that too..lol.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 08:57:03 AM
They started early this morning?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:57:28 AM
People are gathering in the courtroom, saw Ashton walking by on WFTV

Morning...please post the like from where you are watching.....if that makes sense....sometimes I can connect from someone's link, but can't from the one on the front page
Try one this again , I think less watching means less buffering;
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 08:57:30 AM
Ahem... anyone else thinkin' if this guy had a pitchfork in hand and horns on the head... he'd look like... :smt096

just sayin'...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 08:58:12 AM
another boring day until Jeff gets up there... ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 08:58:18 AM
More bug talk today. (http://i55.tinypic.com/20htus6.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 08:58:25 AM
Mornin' y'all...didn't get to sleep until 4, so it was a short night.  Hope it is another smack down for the dufense.  ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:59:08 AM
Ashton requests voir dire

Questioning this narcissistic fool


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:59:45 AM
More bug talk today. (http://i55.tinypic.com/20htus6.jpg)

Bozo is trying to rehabilitate yesterday's slaughter


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:00:05 AM
another boring day until Jeff gets up there... ::boxingjeffbaez::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sooooo right! Yesterday my husband would say, "yell at me when Ashton is up."

Good Morning, Cookie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:01:12 AM
Morning N & N..good to see ya!

Judge Perry is not in the best moods today it seems...he has had enough of the bs...don't blame him..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:01:14 AM
WOW! CJBP couldn't have looked more disgusted!  Hope someone was able to screen cap his look.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 09:01:18 AM
So...I studied the social aspects of being poor...doesn't make me an expert.

Love JPB's face..it says "Oh, carp..not another day of this chit!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 09:02:04 AM
Why they all standing up there talking to the judge? Never seen that before. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:02:11 AM
another boring day until Jeff gets up there... ::boxingjeffbaez::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sooooo right! Yesterday my husband would say, "yell at me when Ashton is up."

Good Morning, Cookie.

OMG, I couldnt get over how masterfully Ashton ripping "bug man" from stem to stern


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 18, 2011, 09:02:36 AM
Yikes, what happened to 9am?  I just got here.  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 09:02:45 AM
People are gathering in the courtroom, saw Ashton walking by on WFTV

Morning...please post the like from where you are watching.....if that makes sense....sometimes I can connect from someone's link, but can't from the one on the front page
Try one this again , I think less watching means less buffering;
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

thanks ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 09:04:03 AM
So...I studied the social aspects of being poor...doesn't make me an expert.

Love JPB's face..it says "Oh, carp..not another day of this chit!"
I want another smackdown!   :smt062


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: luvmyboys on June 18, 2011, 09:04:40 AM
So has anyone seen LKB @ the defense table?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:04:54 AM
Yup, Bozo wants to push rehabilitating yesterday's disaster - bad move


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 09:05:25 AM
People are gathering in the courtroom, saw Ashton walking by on WFTV

Morning...please post the like from where you are watching.....if that makes sense....sometimes I can connect from someone's link, but can't from the one on the front page
Try one this again , I think less watching means less buffering;
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/news/anthony_case

http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html

thanks..it worked!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 09:05:58 AM
Just like BugBoy, this "expert" has not physically examined the evidence. Holiday Inn Express, anyone?

When is it legal to put booze in my coffee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:06:01 AM
once Jeff tears into this guy,he is gonna wish that he would have never done this pro bono...or at all...can't wait...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 09:06:20 AM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:06:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/weshtv#p/l/jHOc7TAggNA

The sound and video with this link is really nice. One of my new favorites.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:06:46 AM
So all of Baez's "expert" witness only worked from photos and other's reports (of which were actually examined in person)!  This makes me so ill!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 09:07:00 AM
Yup, Bozo wants to push rehabilitating yesterday's disaster - bad move

Someone needs to remind him that when you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.   ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:07:03 AM
Just like BugBoy, this "expert" has not physically examined the evidence. Holiday Inn Express, anyone?

When is it legal to put booze in my coffee?

I say anytime you want to! now would be good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:07:05 AM
Witness states the collection of evidence was very thorough, the recovery was "fairly good."   He noticed nothing in the report about where the body initially was placed - o for the love of God here we go!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:07:31 AM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?
Didn't Casey say she thought Caylee would be "home" for her birthday? Or was that Cindy and George, and then Casey delivered.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 09:08:14 AM
So has anyone seen LKB @ the defense table?

can they just add another attorney like that, the judge will not like her and her boisterous big mouth, wonder what they want her to do beside lie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:08:24 AM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

yikes! really??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:08:30 AM
Yup, Bozo wants to push rehabilitating yesterday's disaster - bad move

Someone needs to remind him that when you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.   ::MonkeyShovel::

They might as well keep digging because they are all going 6 ft under & why would anyone trying to maintain a reputation want to - Bozo excluded because he's in a category by himself


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:08:41 AM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

oh that's eeeerie!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: darla on June 18, 2011, 09:09:09 AM
Oh dear Lord, wish someone would tell this goon to clear his throat. He is another pompous azz.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:09:51 AM
Judge is nottttttttt happy!!!

Dr. Spitz is in the hallway waiting..per Jean C.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 09:10:00 AM
Just like BugBoy, this "expert" has not physically examined the evidence. Holiday Inn Express, anyone?

When is it legal to put booze in my coffee?

I say anytime you want to! now would be good!


Jack & Folgers! ::monkeywine2::   This guy is a snooze fest.... nothing more than looking at documents & pictures. Expert, my toe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 09:10:01 AM
Yep, looks like Saint Perry has come to the end of his proverbial rope. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 09:10:12 AM
judge looks disgusted today hope the jury doesnt take it as Ashton being the problem


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:10:14 AM
Yup, Bozo wants to push rehabilitating yesterday's disaster - bad move

Someone needs to remind him that when you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.   ::MonkeyShovel::

They might as well keep digging because they are all going 6 ft under & why would anyone trying to maintain a reputation want to - Bozo excluded because he's in a category by himself
Anti death penalty?  It's the only reason I can see for putting one's career on the line.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:10:47 AM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

oh that's eeeerie!

It has got to be a sign that justice in her name will not be denied  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:11:10 AM
Just like BugBoy, this "expert" has not physically examined the evidence. Holiday Inn Express, anyone?

When is it legal to put booze in my coffee?

Lol. Go for it.  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
Yup, Bozo wants to push rehabilitating yesterday's disaster - bad move

Someone needs to remind him that when you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.   ::MonkeyShovel::

They might as well keep digging because they are all going 6 ft under & why would anyone trying to maintain a reputation want to - Bozo excluded because he's in a category by himself
Anti death penalty?  It's the only reason I can see for putting one's career on the line.

Ego, is my guess - we saw what that did to Bug man


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:11:58 AM
O here we go, questions on this jerks opinion why duct tape would be present


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 09:12:36 AM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?
Didn't Casey say she thought Caylee would be "home" for her birthday? Or was that Cindy and George, and then Casey delivered.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

yes Casey did say that witch


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:12:40 AM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?
::MonkeyEek::
GooD Morning Monkey Friends!   ::justice2NJ::
cant wait for round 2


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:13:09 AM
re: soil changes.. if Caylee's body was rotting while doubled bagged, wouldn't that make it less likely to see soil changes? Also, how much would the body (and bags) have moved if the area was flooded, and not properly buried? Not to mention, being picked apart at some point, the areas that may  have been exposed to decomp fluids wouldn't necessarily be localized..  right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:14:20 AM
Rodriquez thinks duct tape is effected by decomposition - I guess this jerk is going to state that they cannot determine it was on Caylee in the manner the State has put forward.  It was attached to her just the same.   Bozo is already pushing patience  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:14:30 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
I'm not gonna lie. The thought of this guy putting on rubber gloves and walking toward me, even if I'm dead, kinda scares me. #caseyanthony
6 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 18, 2011, 09:14:39 AM
Judge has clearly had enough of this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:14:48 AM
What is with George and this finger to the mouth thing he does so much lately? It's like he's forever in the "Shush" position.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 09:14:51 AM
JP leaning back in his chair like he's ready to take a nap.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:15:03 AM
re: soil changes.. if Caylee's body was rotting while doubled bagged, wouldn't that make it less likely to see soil changes? Also, how much would the body (and bags) have moved if the area was flooded, and not properly buried? Not to mention, being picked apart at some point, the areas that may  have been exposed to decomp fluids wouldn't necessarily be localized..  right?

Yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 09:15:49 AM
OMG, I finally figured out why they like to "sidebar" so much. there's a hookah over there, and Bozo will do anything for another hit. And today, Judge is not in a good mood. He should have a ruler out for hand smackin'.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:16:05 AM
What is with George and this finger to the mouth thing he does so much lately? It's like he's forever in the "Shush" position.

Probably a reminder to himself not to react, maybe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:16:16 AM
re: soil changes.. if Caylee's body was rotting while doubled bagged, wouldn't that make it less likely to see soil changes? Also, how much would the body (and bags) have moved if the area was flooded, and not properly buried? Not to mention, being picked apart at some point, the areas that may  have been exposed to decomp fluids wouldn't necessarily be localized..  right?

Yes
I realize Baez is trying to plant seeds of doubt, but even the jury should be able to figure that one out.   ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:16:28 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
I'm not gonna lie. The thought of this guy putting on rubber gloves and walking toward me, even if I'm dead, kinda scares me. #caseyanthony
6 minutes ago
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 09:17:42 AM
What is with George and this finger to the mouth thing he does so much lately? It's like he's forever in the "Shush" position.


He's got a secret. He needs to keep it in.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 09:18:18 AM
Oh boy, another day of sidebars.  Jury has *got* to have had it uptohere with this bs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:18:45 AM
re: soil changes.. if Caylee's body was rotting while doubled bagged, wouldn't that make it less likely to see soil changes? Also, how much would the body (and bags) have moved if the area was flooded, and not properly buried? Not to mention, being picked apart at some point, the areas that may  have been exposed to decomp fluids wouldn't necessarily be localized..  right?

Yes
I realize Baez is trying to plant seeds of doubt, but even the jury should be able to figure that one out.   ::boxingjeffbaez::

 ::rhino::   He also wants to use this witness to attempt to say the duct tape was not used on Caylee.  Ashton is accusing the defense of trying to elicit an opinion that he did not give in his report at sidebar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:18:45 AM
Glad I woke up just in time.. I love Bill Schaeffers commentary  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:18:50 AM
JP not looking at Baez while he talks at sidebar but looked at mason saying something and shaking his head... more of that I can't believe a thing your side says stuff I hope! Put the hand in his baez's face JP...tell him to talk to the hand, hell to the no!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:18:53 AM
Was the issue in regard to Vasco Thompson?

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
At end of yesterday, JP set 830 to discuss an issue. It was resolved. We were here, so he started


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:19:04 AM
re: soil changes.. if Caylee's body was rotting while doubled bagged, wouldn't that make it less likely to see soil changes? Also, how much would the body (and bags) have moved if the area was flooded, and not properly buried? Not to mention, being picked apart at some point, the areas that may  have been exposed to decomp fluids wouldn't necessarily be localized..  right?

Yes
I realize Baez is trying to plant seeds of doubt, but even the jury should be able to figure that one out.   ::boxingjeffbaez::

Hey, I'm in my 40's with a 2 year old & exhausted.  Spend my days playing in sand and discussing why Daisy Duck doesn't wear pants & why Goofy talks & pluto doesn't.  If "I" can figure that out - the jury sure can!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:19:36 AM
Oh boy, another day of sidebars.  Jury has *got* to have had it uptohere with this bs.

Well, he needs to stick to "all final reports are due by" and if something is absent then the witness should not be able to testify to it, gotta say.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 09:20:07 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/jperry.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 09:20:43 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/5845319530_dee85a065f_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:21:02 AM
Jury not present - Ashton is making his objection & CJBP has papers in front of him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 09:21:44 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/geo.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 09:21:50 AM
Oh boy, another day of sidebars.  Jury has *got* to have had it uptohere with this bs.

Well, he needs to stick to "all final reports are due by" and if something is absent then the witness should not be able to testify to it, gotta say.
I totally agree! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:22:29 AM
I realize Baez is trying to plant seeds of doubt, but even the jury should be able to figure that one out.   ::boxingjeffbaez::

Hey, I'm in my 40's with a 2 year old & exhausted.  Spend my days playing in sand and discussing why Daisy Duck doesn't wear pants & why Goofy talks & pluto doesn't.  If "I" can figure that out - the jury sure can!!!!

 ::MonkeyDevil:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/jperry.jpg)

fluffy pillow, steak on the grill, no attorneys, fresh lemonade (or brewsky)  Yep that's what he's thinking!  Don't you just want to pinch his little cheeks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:22:46 AM
CJBP making Bozo read the portion of the court order he is discussing  ::boxingbaez2::

CJBP is going to ask the doctor some questions....o boy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 09:22:53 AM
What is with George and this finger to the mouth thing he does so much lately? It's like he's forever in the "Shush" position.


He's got a secret. He needs to keep it in.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyTease:: ::pullinghairout:: love u anyway Carpe, lol ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:23:22 AM
Jury not present - Ashton is making his objection & CJBP has papers in front of him
I was just about to ask!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:23:42 AM
Bozo's not happy he has to look for the court order as to what was supposed to be included in reports.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:24:07 AM
Mr. Baez, pull out a copy of the Court Order.....

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Casey/Casey%20Comics/Image32-41.png)

Thanks Brandi!!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:24:40 AM
Oh boy, another day of sidebars.  Jury has *got* to have had it uptohere with this bs.

Well, he needs to stick to "all final reports are due by" and if something is absent then the witness should not be able to testify to it, gotta say.

JUST ONCE...just ONE time I would love it if JP would stick to the warnings he's made. I respect the man and I am impressed by him, but what good are rules if they're not followed or warnings upheld? It's so old.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:25:11 AM
O hell to the no Rodriquez - then you should have put that in the report or been asked during deposition

NO BASS AWKWARD sneak testimony....come on CJBP stop this ambush of crap

CJBP asked when he came to this conclusion, he wants a date when he saw the photographs - the witness just lied when he saw the pictures, but even Feb is too early not to have included it in the report.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 09:25:22 AM
New name for this witness: Ultimate Combover.
New valuable testimony from this witness: None
So he helped start the Body Farm. Why isn't he still there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:26:04 AM
Mr baez was informed by telephone AFTER his report - he just lied again that it was in Feb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 09:26:22 AM
why did Baez not include these things. They could have potentially helped his client.  Wow - really bad. Don't get me wrong, I don't feel bad for Casey but that is really really bad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:26:30 AM
smack down coming to Bozo I think!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 09:26:44 AM
Oh dear Gussy - Mr. Baez is in *BIG* trouble, me finks. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 09:26:51 AM
Oh dear Lord, wish someone would tell this goon to clear his throat. He is another pompous azz.

 ::HelloKitty::   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:27:03 AM
Uh oh, Baez!! YOU DUMBA$$!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:27:03 AM
CJBP just asked if the expert witness was shown the court's order.

This may very well be  ::monkeydenied::   Bozo never informed him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:27:04 AM
Oh boy, another day of sidebars.  Jury has *got* to have had it uptohere with this bs.

Well, he needs to stick to "all final reports are due by" and if something is absent then the witness should not be able to testify to it, gotta say.

JUST ONCE...just ONE time I would love it if JP would stick to the warnings he's made. I respect the man and I am impressed by him, but what good are rules if they're not followed or warnings upheld? It's so old.

I agree.  I do however  think he's xtra xtra cautious because he KNOWS this isn't going to end well for ICA & he wants to make sure he gave them every opportunity possible - all his t's were crossed & I's dotted!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:27:19 AM
It's going to be another jump up and down, clapping my hands, woot woot wooting kind of day!!!   ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:27:51 AM
No, no Bozo   SHOW THE EMAILS - that doesnt take care of what you didnt do


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 09:27:53 AM
bozo trying to get another thing thru


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:27:54 AM
Another lying "duhfense witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 09:27:59 AM
It def. looks like there is a pattern going on here with the defense witnesses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:28:42 AM
bozo trying to get another thing thru

They are both LYING


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:28:49 AM
Mr baez was informed by telephone AFTER his report - he just lied again that it was in Feb
Good catch capp!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:29:20 AM
Bozo just gave it away....this is to rebut the superimposed video that was used


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 09:29:32 AM
What the states witnesses opinions were, were not a surprise - the defesne should have already planned to rebut their testimony and have those conclusions in writing when the ct. ordered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:31:00 AM
Bozo just gave it away....this is to rebut the superimposed video that was used

In other words, Bozo called him after Dr Warren's testimony for the State.    No, no that doesnt make it right.   File a supplemental report then


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:31:07 AM
Bobo didnt want anything in writing because he wanted the upper hand, He is such a sleazeball


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:31:40 AM
Whiner fantasico!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:31:58 AM
SNAGGED!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 09:32:01 AM
Bobo didnt want anything in writing because he wanted the upper hand, He is such a sleazeball
::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
Either Bozo is lying, or the witness is.   ::MonkeyDevil::  Baez better show the email he sent, other wise it didn't happen.  FAIL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 09:32:37 AM
What is the deal with Baez witnesses not abiding by the Judges edict and putting all informtion and opinions that they will be testifying to in their reports? Bug Boy did it and now this witness appears to have done the same regarding duct tape.

WTH?

Enough of this.

Baez is saying no one playing games here, BS. This is now the second time this has occurred in two days.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:32:47 AM
As if the duhfenses experts are the only ones that are busy.

Not reasonable to put all opinions in his reports?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:33:07 AM
Either Bozo is lying, or the witness is.   ::MonkeyDevil::  Baez better show the email he sent, other wise it didn't happen.  FAIL!


They BOTH are....Bozo contacted him after Dr Warren testified at trial & the judge has snagged it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:33:08 AM
Oh good grief...time constraints???

I didn't have time because I was goofing off Judge! It's not my fault. It's the doctor's fault...well no, actually it's just a misunderstanding...well no, the rules aren't reasonable,....oh he should have been deposed and the state decided not to so it's the State's fault...yeah yeah, that's the ticket it's the State's fault.

Doh!! ::MonkeyMad::

Remember JP...you said it yourself, you cannot trust the defense...they LIE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:33:17 AM
got some "technical" questions if someone would be kind enough to help me

So the jurors are not allowed to talk amongst themselves about the case - even at night & on Sundays?

Do they mingle with each other at night & on Sundays or stay in a secluded room by themselves?

I understand if they need a transcript during deliberation they can ask for it but if they're not taking notes how in the heck are they going to remember dates & pertinent points.  After awhile it all has to run together.  I always thought ALL of the transcripts were there in the deliberation room & they just kind went over everything again.

thx for helping me - I just don't have time these days to spend hours researching - figure you smart monkeys could answer it in about 30 seconds!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:33:31 AM
Sanction Bozo again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:34:03 AM
Now Bozo is blaming the State - no wonder he is Casey's attorney....birds flock and all that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:34:15 AM
Is that a smirk on Kathi B's face?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:34:34 AM
He is dancing and not that good either.. deflection confusion...  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 18, 2011, 09:35:00 AM
Judge--hit him hard !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

Wow..I did not know the address on Suburban..it matches her date of birth..I would say no coincidence with Casey at the helm..she knew just what she was doing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:35:07 AM
JP..."you're saying you can pick which orders you want to comply with." To baez.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

GET HIM JUDGE!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:35:07 AM
you go Judge Perry!!! He has had it with Bozo!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 09:35:11 AM
Baez is FULL OF ....  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Dude, this is YOUR case. a$$wipe!

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 09:35:12 AM
The Judge needs to find Baez in contempt of Court of Perry's court order.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 09:35:26 AM
OH, TOTAL SMACKDOWN! I see a sanction coming along!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:35:38 AM
Baez... you'll be lucky if you can make a book from this case with paper of quality enough to wipe your own a$$ with.  Your career is finished BOZO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:35:45 AM
Now Bozo is blaming the State - no wonder he is Casey's attorney....birds flock and all that
I was just thinking that when they do get together, it must be to lay out all this BS.  They both are unbelievable.


Oooohhh....Both sides are playing games.  And this is NOT A GAME!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 09:35:54 AM
I pity the monkeys that are sleeping in ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 09:36:07 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/5845355354_6e20a8d803_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:36:07 AM
Bobo didnt want anything in writing because he wanted the upper hand, He is such a sleazeball
::boxingbaez2::

You know I thought Baez had gone as low as you could go - then Mason through him a shovel !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 09:36:11 AM
OH, TOTAL SMACKDOWN! I see a sanction coming along!
Oh,I hope so. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 09:36:51 AM
I pity the monkeys that are sleeping in ::monkeywine2::
::monkeywine2:: Me too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:36:58 AM
CJBP is PISSSSS'd

"That's not gonna happen here"   "Well, Mr. Baez to be quite frank both sides have participated in some game playing."

"We have experts with major opinions not in their reports, the easy thing is if an opinion comes about you disclose it.  Its not difficult to do, its quite easy to do even if it happens at the last minute."

OOO they were there early about a possible violation of sequesteration.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 09:37:11 AM
"This is not a game." -Judge Perry

Go, my brother...


We need a Judge Perry icon punching Jose

 ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:37:12 AM
JP says they met early to discuss a violation of sequestration???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: darla on June 18, 2011, 09:37:55 AM
I love me some Judge Perry, I hope he throws this witness out! And sanctions the hell out of Bozo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:37:55 AM
 ::MonkeyDevil::  Judge says this was intentional.      ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyShovel::  You're shoveling it, BOZO.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 09:38:07 AM
Go Judge Perry!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:38:33 AM
JP says they met early to discuss a violation of sequestration???

Wonder what that was about..which juror?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 09:38:46 AM
Judge Perrt just said that this was not inadvertant and was intentional. Oh boy, Perry is about the lower the boom. Please lower the boom on this unethical lawyer Baez.

Witness is to step down and be deposed. Will testify some time next week.

Judge will reserve the right to contempt the situation at the end of the trial.

Baez is in deep doo doo at the end of this and rightfully so for all of the games he has played.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:39:06 AM
saying if Ms. Anthony should be punished because of Bozo screwing up...something to that effect...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:39:42 AM
Dr Spitz...another Monkey Gift!!!!!!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Babybear on June 18, 2011, 09:39:53 AM
Contempt--contempt--go ahead and do it judge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:40:07 AM
SMACKDOWN about to commence .....not inadverent question is if Casey should be punished because of this

Options:  CONTEMPT!!!!!!   An instruction to the jury and now CJBP wants to know what other opinions he is going to testify

I knew it Dr Spitz - the witness is stepping down & he is to take his deposition - he will testify next week & the judge will entertain an instruction to the jury over THIS VIOLATION -

CJBP is considering contempt at the conclusion at the end of this trial!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:40:11 AM
Bozo has to take the deposition of the witness this pm., and the witness will step down.
JP will decide if he'll proceed to contempt proceedings after the trial. Yes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
Bozo will not shut up!
JP is soooo mad!
not Judges' first rodeo he says lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:41:00 AM
BOZO is in BIG trouble  "Mr Baez this is not my first rodeo"  :smt079


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:41:23 AM
JP says they met early to discuss a violation of sequestration???

Wonder what that was about..which juror?
I hope the defense was wooing #4  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:41:41 AM
this is what happens when rules are not enforced...one gets the notion they can just keep on doing whatever they want to do or not do what they don't want to do.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Babybear on June 18, 2011, 09:41:50 AM
Bbbbbut, Judge---Aston did it too.  No excuse, Bozo--You're caught like a pike.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:41:59 AM
O pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease someone bring up the Vasco fiasco


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:42:04 AM
good thing this can be watched online cause HLN and InSessions always goes to break or yaks it up during the crucial times!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 09:42:13 AM
Bozo has to take the deposition of the witness this pm., and the witness will step down.
JP will decide if he'll proceed to contempt proceedings after the trial. Yes!
::boxingbaez2::  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:42:17 AM
Bbbbbut, Judge---Aston did it too.  No excuse, Bozo--You're caught like a pike.

No Ashton did not do the same thing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 09:42:33 AM
Judge Perry says Baez not acting in "good faith" in what his witnesses will be testifying to in this case.

That is an understatement.

Hey Baez, how ya like your celecrity now. I hope the State files a bar complaint against Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 09:42:54 AM
Mods ;When this video is archived it may need a special notation to make it easy for the sleepy heads to find.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 09:43:12 AM
JP is the MAN!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:43:31 AM
10 min recess - Dr Rodriques be prepared to take depostion at 1PM    This doctor better admit he lied now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:43:57 AM
bozo is not happy... ::MonkeyKiss::  I love it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:44:17 AM
JP is the MAN!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

pb

yes, he is...I had total faith he would do the right thing.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 09:44:56 AM
PERRY tells BAEZ that this is not my first rodeo.

And for Bobo, it is yours you wet behind the ears, novice, unethical POS (adlib)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 09:45:02 AM
Who's laughing now Biotch!!  ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingcasey2::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kca.jpg)(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kc88.jpg)

(Picture on right was yesterday)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Bill Schaeffer explaining now http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:45:34 AM
Bobo wants to take his own deposition,,,asshat  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingjeffbaez::  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:45:34 AM
oh my gosh stepped away for five mins and all he77 broke loose!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 09:45:47 AM
The inmate is pizzed,and that's how I like it!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 09:46:08 AM
darn..cameras cut away..can't see Casey busting Bozo's chops!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:46:38 AM
PERRY tells BAEZ that this is not my first rodeo.

And for Bobo, it is yours you wet behind the ears, novice, unethical POS (adlib)
He is so slippery and scummy. yet transparent


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 09:46:47 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: the news here (florida) just said, WOW, Judge Perry giving Jose Baez a HUGE SPANKING!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingbaez2::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 09:47:12 AM
Judge Perry - not happy.

Jose walks away like scolded school boy.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 09:47:12 AM
Cripes! I am late today, and apparently missed something awesome! :(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 09:47:24 AM
Whoop-Whoop!
Someone call Baez a Dr!
(http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/monkeyking0956/10.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:47:25 AM
Bill Schaeffer explaining now http://www.wftv.com/caseytriallive1/index.html

4 "commercials" gave up


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: snoopy on June 18, 2011, 09:47:40 AM
That was such a beautiful thing. lol  I just love a good smackdown.  Now must have coffee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:47:48 AM
Judge Perry says Baez not acting in "good faith" in what his witnesses will be testifying to in this case.

That is an understatement.

Hey Baez, how ya like your celecrity now. I hope the State files a bar complaint against Baez.

Through deposition today, they should be made to disclose all their communications, including the ones they did not admit to in court that took place AFTER Dr Warren testified for the State and used that superimposed video with the duct tape.   Ashton had an exhibit, Bozo felt he could get testimony from an anthropologist to rebut that & that is very clear.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 09:47:53 AM
Judge Perry - not happy.

Jose walks away like scolded school boy.




He sure did!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:48:02 AM
JP is the MAN!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

pb

yes, he is...I had total faith he would do the right thing.   

Did I hear right...JP said he couldn't do anything to him the first time but if he does it again he can?

Why can't he be punished the first time? I don't understand.

WHENNNNN is baez gonna finally get  ::boxingbaez2:: !!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 18, 2011, 09:48:21 AM
9pm Sat, June 18, 2011 Court is in session:

The defense witness is Dr. Rodriguez

He is a Forensic Anthropologist, he is declared an expert witness.

He got examined info from the case.  He examined photos and the evidence collected at the scene.  He examined the remains at the ME's office.

The report looked good but he saw that the report did not say where the body had been placed at the remains site for the area of decomposition.  Why is that important?  We can find decomp evidence and trace evidence.  Teeth will fall out as the teeth are removed.  In looking for those areas the condition....Jeff wants to voir dire.......going to side bar......back from side bar.

Baez is back up.

What would you look for to try to determine where the initial decomp site was?  The soil would change, the vegetation would die.  The insects would feed and reproduce in that area and their remains will be found in that area in the soil.  Did you look for any soil change throughout the scene? I didn't see any, and didn't see any in the report.  Have you found victims with duct tape?  What do you do with remains that have duct tape?  I have looked at numerous cases where the body has been bound and looking at those types of cases.  If the body still has soft tissues we look at the positioning of the tape.  If the body has undergone mummification, it is still attached to the tissues.  If we see a skeletonized body with tape, it has nothing to adhere to.  Side bar.......side bar is over...Jury is sent from court.

Ashton is making an objection:  The witness is testifying to things not in his report.  There is no opinion that references anything to do with duct tape.  Baez is told to pull out the court order and read it!!! This ought to be good, lol.

Judge asking, what opinion are you about to give about the duct tape?  The duct tape is in 2 diff positions.  One cannot make an absolute finding as the position of the duct tape to the finding of the restriction of that duct tape on skeleton remains.  Especially after the duct tape was moved by animals.  It could of been around the eyes instead of a nose and mouth.  He has had a case where the duct tape was held by soil.  Judge asked when did you form that opinion?  Early on when I got the photos, prior to my report which is dated Feb 24, 2011, he did not mention it because it was a non-issue.  He could make no opinion then so he could not put it in his report but he told Mr Baez on the phone.  Were you ever told that every opinion had to be placed in a report.  Were you ever shown this court's order that expert's opinions be in a report or not given in court?  I was never informed that by Mr. Baez.  Mr Baez says, do you recall getting some emails from me prior to giving your report, do you remember me telling you that you had to put all your opinions in your report?  Yes. We met two nights ago, was it at that time that we had decided to include your report the duct tape to rebut the testimony of the super-imposition was not true...do you have an opinion on whether that super-imposition was not correct.  I do, it is unheard of to scientifically to show where that duct tape was, you could reposition that duct tape anywhere on that skull anywhere on that head.  I would be stepping off scientific rules to do that.  Mr Baez says we asked them to put their opinions in their report.  I told them I would suffer dire results.  This was a difficult task to to, they had to file these reports in 20 days.  We were never given this video super-imposition CD.  We did not anticipate this CD and I asked my witness to help rebut that video.  Judge says is your witness lying about when you told me he told you before the deadline?  He says that he thought Ashton was trying to pull a fast one by using reports and not taking a deposition and do the work.  I am going to ask you what I asked you at side bar.  You are trying to decide which Court Orders you are going to comply with and which ones you are not going to comply with.  Both side have been playing games and this is not a game.  This order was entered because both sides were trying to play games. I am at that point now in trial, there are major things not in their reports.  If the opinion comes about you disclose it, it is not hard to do Mr. Baez, it is quite easy to do even if it happens at the last minute.  Here I am faced with here the last minute of what to do.  We were scheduled to be here for a rule of sequestration and the exclusion of a witness is a very harsh rule that is not to be done in most of the exaggerated conditions but they list a couple of other things that you can do.  This appears to be to me quite intentional.  This was not inadvertent and the question is should Ms Anthony be punished for this.  Case law says I can do contempt, an instruction to the jury concerning the violation in judging the credibility of the witness.  What other witness do you have available for today.  This witness is going to step down so he can have his depo taken.  He will testify next week, Monday, he will entertain a possible violation if the state wants to draft one.  He may proceed with contempt proceedings against Baez at the end of this trial. WOOOOOOOT.  Baez is trying......Judge said this is not my first rodeo.  I tried one or two cases and in one of my cases, at the conclusion of the defenses opening statement and at the end of the first questions, I found myself in a boat without a paddle.  At the noon recess I found my PI to help, he found an additional 4 to 5 witness, that night I talked to them and set up depositions to determine what they would testify to......so the witness would not be surprised.  All my orders were designed to do was be prepared so we would have no gotcha moments with someone not be prepared.  We will take a 10 minute recess and Dr. Rodriguez will give a depo at 1pm today and lightning does not strike twice at the same place.  If there are other cases of this I will not promise what I will do if it happens again with this witness.  The state will take his deposition.  10 minute recess..........wow just wow.







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:48:45 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 09:48:59 AM
Is this the case he is referring to as the one he prosecuted?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/03/belvin-perry-talks-to-wesh-about-black-widow-case-execution.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29 (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/03/belvin-perry-talks-to-wesh-about-black-widow-case-execution.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:49:46 AM
The inmate is pizzed,and that's how I like it!   ::MonkeyGavel::

Screw her, they all conferred as to what lies they would tell & how many they would attempt to destroy to attempt to let that slore get away with murder...they all should & will go to H E double hockey sticks with her  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Mary on June 18, 2011, 09:49:48 AM
Why did CM follow JP into the office after JP left the court room. CM thinks because he has
been around for ever that he is the big cheese and runs the court.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:50:28 AM
Dr Spitz is next.. buckle up... take some valium or a shot of your choice because it ought to be interesting  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 18, 2011, 09:50:32 AM
Good morning Monkees!!!

WHAT have I missed??!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:50:37 AM
Bobo wants to take his own deposition,,,asshat  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingjeffbaez::  ::boxingbaez2::

Doesnt work that way...he's going to attempt to get to this witness before the deposition & if I were the State I would make sure that witness is watched


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 09:51:24 AM
Thank You Magic!!

 ::snipping2::  from Magic's report in post up above.

We were scheduled to be here for a rule of sequestration and the exclusion of a witness is a very harsh rule that is not to be done in most of the exaggerated conditions but they list a couple of other things that you can do.  This appears to be to me quite intentional.  This was not inadvertent and the question is should Ms Anthony be punished for this.  Case law says I can do contempt, an instruction to the jury concerning the violation in judging the credibility of the witness.


I guess this is about Timmy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:51:31 AM
Dr Spitz is next.. buckle up... take some valium or a shot of your choice because it ought to be interesting  ::monkeywine2::

O this is going to get downright ugly...Dr Spitz is mincemeat once the State gets him on cross


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 09:52:24 AM
Bozo has to take the deposition of the witness this pm., and the witness will step down.
JP will decide if he'll proceed to contempt proceedings after the trial. Yes!
::boxingbaez2::  ::justice2NJ::

I think JP said the state will take this asswipes depo at 1PM......so the state has to change any saturday afternoon plans they may have because JB tried to pull an ambush..WTF????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 09:52:53 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!
I LOVE IT!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 09:53:27 AM
The inmate is pizzed,and that's how I like it!   ::MonkeyGavel::

Screw her, they all conferred as to what lies they would tell & how many they would attempt to destroy to attempt to let that slore get away with murder...they all should & will go to H E double hockey sticks with her  ::boxingbaez2::
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 18, 2011, 09:53:44 AM
I am sad to say that I think Baez is even more smarmy and more like Casey than I even thought.  I really think that the judge is seeing that now.  The judge is doing his best to get this case tried fairly and not have it re-tried or a mistrial.  It is going to be very hard with Baez.  He has lied to everyone from the start and he continues to lie day after day.  Poor little Caylee, she deserved better than Casey and Baez.  ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingbaez2::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Babybear on June 18, 2011, 09:54:15 AM
this is what happens when rules are not enforced...one gets the notion they can just keep on doing whatever they want to do or not do what they don't want to do.



You're right, Nick, etc.  Judge Perry from the beginning has threatened certain actions that he will take if Baez again disobeys his orders.  Baez does it, and nothing happens.  This has gone on for months.  Now Baez is shocked because Perry is enforcing his orders.  IMO Baez got to the point that he thought he  could do anything because they were empty threats.  Several of us have mentioned this on quite a few occasions, that if a judge threatens something, he should back it up.  This is the result of his not doing so on other issues.  In fact, some of the issues were similar. 

I think Judge Perry is a wise and learned man.  But he needs to toughen up and either not make threats or carry it through every single time.

Now a violation of sequestration.  I hope this isn't serious enough or widespread among the jury enough to declare a mistrial.  I don't think so, though, because the judge ordered the attorneys to carry on with a deposition this afternoon.  What next?

I'd like to be the judge for just a few minutes so I could walk over with my gavel and bop Casey Anthony on the head.  No, I wouldn't look good in that long black robe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:54:30 AM
The jury should be told flat out that there was a violation & that the witness was excused and may return at a later date.   Im pretty sure that the absence of this testimony continuing will already be in their minds that there was something wrong with what the defense did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:54:37 AM
I guess the jury should prepare for the 4th of July in sequestration


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
Bobo wants to take his own deposition,,,asshat  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingjeffbaez::  ::boxingbaez2::

Doesnt work that way...he's going to attempt to get to this witness before the deposition & if I were the State I would make sure that witness is watched

Some one really needs to check and see whether Jose Baez really did go to law school and was the actually individual who took the bar. His unethical behavior is one thing, but he has no clue as to the law and procedure. This is exactly the reason why he was never qualified to do this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 09:54:58 AM
Dr Spitz is next.. buckle up... take some valium or a shot of your choice because it ought to be interesting  ::monkeywine2::
God, please let him testify to things not in a report!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 09:55:58 AM
I am sad to say that I think Baez is even more smarmy and more like Casey than I even thought.  I really think that the judge is seeing that now.  The judge is doing his best to get this case tried fairly and not have it re-tried or a mistrial.  It is going to be very hard with Baez.  He has lied to everyone from the start and he continues to lie day after day.  Poor little Caylee, she deserved better than Casey and Baez.  ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingbaez2::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::
ITA, Magic Eyes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 09:56:10 AM
Bozo has to take the deposition of the witness this pm., and the witness will step down.
JP will decide if he'll proceed to contempt proceedings after the trial. Yes!
::boxingbaez2::  ::justice2NJ::

I think JP said the state will take this asswipes depo at 1PM......so the state has to change any saturday afternoon plans they may have because JB tried to pull an ambush..WTF????

Exactly!  ::MonkeyMad::

I don't know about anyone else, but we're getting really tired of this over here in my house. JB screws up and it also screws the State...and if JP says "ya'll" one more time when it's really supposed to be just baez I'm going to scream!

Why does JB yet again get to walk away unscathed? JP said something about he can't the first time but can the second?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 09:56:23 AM
I guess the jury should prepare for the 4th of July in sequestration
Well, they're getting free fireworks everyday...they should get hot dogs and beer during court also. ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 18, 2011, 09:56:38 AM
Bozo has to take the deposition of the witness this pm., and the witness will step down.
JP will decide if he'll proceed to contempt proceedings after the trial. Yes!
::boxingbaez2::  ::justice2NJ::

I think JP said the state will take this asswipes depo at 1PM......so the state has to change any saturday afternoon plans they may have because JB tried to pull an ambush..WTF????

When JP asked Bozo if they could do a full day or until 1 pm today he said 1 pm because that was all the steam he had or something like that. Guess he has to work today    ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 09:57:23 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!

For sure!!   But why is he holding the contempt of court until the end of the trial!!!? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 09:58:08 AM
I am sad to say that I think Baez is even more smarmy and more like Casey than I even thought.  I really think that the judge is seeing that now.  The judge is doing his best to get this case tried fairly and not have it re-tried or a mistrial.  It is going to be very hard with Baez.  He has lied to everyone from the start and he continues to lie day after day.  Poor little Caylee, she deserved better than Casey and Baez.  ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingbaez2::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::

Agreed! And thanks for the updates! I missed the whole thing, and reading your "transcripts" helped! ((Monkey Hugs))


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cadillac on June 18, 2011, 09:58:33 AM
Y'know Casey picked this "lawyer" and has had three (?) years to see the real truth about him.  She deserves him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 09:58:46 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!

Yep!!! Judge Perry is done with Blowhole's bullchit!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 09:58:51 AM
JP is the MAN!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

pb

yes, he is...I had total faith he would do the right thing.  

Did I hear right...JP said he couldn't do anything to him the first time but if he does it again he can?

Why can't he be punished the first time? I don't understand.

WHENNNNN is baez gonna finally get  ::boxingbaez2:: !!!!
   ::monkeywine2:: ::MonkeyGavel::
I understand your frustration, but Judge Perry has to be careful what he does to Bozo does not interfere with KC's right to a defense.  Bozo is getting his every time his objections are overruled and every time JP spanks him for his screw-ups.  The law community is watching this and his ability to practice law again is being diminished by the minute.  I also would not be surprised if Bozo gets sanctions from the State Bar Association following this trial.   ::MonkeyGavel::
Edit-fix quotes.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Babybear on June 18, 2011, 09:58:54 AM
Bobo wants to take his own deposition,,,asshat  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingjeffbaez::  ::boxingbaez2::

Doesnt work that way...he's going to attempt to get to this witness before the deposition & if I were the State I would make sure that witness is watched

Some one really needs to check and see whether Jose Baez really did go to law school and was the actually individual who took the bar. His unethical behavior is one thing, but he has no clue as to the law and procedure. This is exactly the reason why he was never qualified to do this case.

Cappy, what you said is true.  Isn't it a pity that we even think Baez should be watched for further violations?  But we know that judging from his past--his whole adult life--that he can't be trusted.  Many of us do not hold attorneys in high regard, and I am one of them.  This is an example of the reason we don't.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 09:59:08 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!

For sure!!   But why is he holding the contempt of court until the end of the trial!!!? 

I bet he's going to have more to consider before it's all over.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Probably has a lot to do with the defendant's rights?  Just guessing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:59:37 AM
Dr Spitz is next.. buckle up... take some valium or a shot of your choice because it ought to be interesting  ::monkeywine2::
God, please let him testify to things not in a report!
Dr Spitz is a loose cannon and can be provoked under cross by Jeff Ashton and I bet JA knows this.. Spitz is similar to Bobo.. he makes it up as he goes  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:00:00 AM
Y'know Casey picked this "lawyer" and has had three (?) years to see the real truth about him.  She deserves him.

She knows exactly what they are doing, she's the ring leader


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 10:00:24 AM
Dr Spitz is next.. buckle up... take some valium or a shot of your choice because it ought to be interesting  ::monkeywine2::

O this is going to get downright ugly...Dr Spitz is mincemeat once the State gets him on cross

but I do think Jeff is going to have to be less aggressive with Spitz.....he is OLD and Jeff doesn't want to appear beating up an old man!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 10:00:31 AM
Y'know Casey picked this "lawyer" and has had three (?) years to see the real truth about him.  She deserves him.

I agree......they deserve each other.....a match made in HeLL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 18, 2011, 10:00:46 AM
Love watching bozo get spanked but worry that if it gets worse, our verdict might be jeopardized :-/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:00:47 AM
MASON, has the b@lls to argue with the judge now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 10:00:54 AM
::MonkeyHaHa:: the news here (florida) just said, WOW, Judge Perry giving Jose Baez a HUGE SPANKING!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingbaez2::

pb
JP gave Bozo a good spanking alright! (http://i53.tinypic.com/3029b4l.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:01:50 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!

For sure!!   But why is he holding the contempt of court until the end of the trial!!!? 

I bet he's going to have more to consider before it's all over.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Probably has a lot to do with the defendant's rights?  Just guessing.
::rhino::   That's what I think as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
MASON, has the b@lls to argue with the judge now

What the heck did he say? I couldn't understand him again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:02:04 AM
Y'know Casey picked this "lawyer" and has had three (?) years to see the real truth about him.  She deserves him.

Even her family kept telling her in jail they were concerned about Jose Baez. She's been warned over and over. Blech, blech!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 10:02:11 AM
Mumbles is up asking JP for an explaination to the jury as to where the witness went.

Morning Monkeys!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:02:17 AM
Did Baez vacate the premises?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:02:27 AM
I understand your frustration, but Judge Perry has to be careful what he does to Bozo does not interfere with KC's right to a defense.  Bozo is getting his every time his objections are overruled and every time JP spanks him for his screw-ups.  The law community is watching this and his ability to practice law again is being diminished by the minute.  I also would not be surprised if Bozo gets sanctions from the State Bar Association following this trial.   ::MonkeyGavel::

And because of that we're going to see more of this craziness. In other trials, are lawyers not sanctioned when they do this crap?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 10:02:37 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!

For sure!!   But why is he holding the contempt of court until the end of the trial!!!? 

Im going to guess because he is always mindful of the jury and if he wants to throw Baez in the slammer for a few days, that will affect the jury!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 10:02:44 AM
OMG what a wasted day all because of the duhfenses sloppy underhanded tricks!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:03:00 AM
Good Morning!  What'd I miss so far?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:03:10 AM
I guess Bozo's done for the day and Foghorn's taking over?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 10:03:29 AM
MASON, has the b@lls to argue with the judge now

He's a trip that Mumbles  ::MonkeyNoNo::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 10:03:46 AM
WTF? I thought the jury was going to get an explanation about the defense's antics and why the last witness was postponed?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 18, 2011, 10:04:00 AM
Bozo prolly in a planning session with Rodriguez right now....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:04:19 AM
MASON, has the b@lls to argue with the judge now

What the heck did he say? I couldn't understand him again.
Colonel Sanders wanted the judge to give the jury a reason for why there's a new witness on the stand.  The judge asked him if he wanted him to tell the truth!  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 10:04:22 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!

For sure!!   But why is he holding the contempt of court until the end of the trial!!!? 
Maybe he plans on running a tab.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 10:04:27 AM
Dr Spitz is next.. buckle up... take some valium or a shot of your choice because it ought to be interesting  ::monkeywine2::

O this is going to get downright ugly...Dr Spitz is mincemeat once the State gets him on cross

but I do think Jeff is going to have to be less aggressive with Spitz.....he is OLD and Jeff doesn't want to appear beating up an old man!!
Maybe Linda should beat him up then...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Anna on June 18, 2011, 10:04:49 AM
Mumbles is up asking JP for an explaination to the jury as to where the witness went.

Morning Monkeys!!

Judge should tell them how Baez keeps lying, lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:04:51 AM
This testimony is going to be so bogus, I can hardly wait for  ::boxingjeffbaez:: on cross

The splitting the skull is a non issue & totally unnecessary in this case.  What was seen on autopsy is all that needed to be seen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:05:00 AM
Unbelievable that defense is allowed to get away with this unethical behavior and the Jury gets no inkling what just occured.

Cheney Mason will do the direct on Dr Spitz.

Judge Perry gets a break from Jose Baez games.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:05:01 AM
I guess Bozo's done for the day and Foghorn's taking over?

My question is: Why did mumbles let JB go so far? This isn't the first time! Everyone keeps saying Cheney Mason has a good reputation, but he's stood *slept* by and allowed JB to go on and on. What the heck?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 10:05:12 AM
Did Baez vacate the premises?   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Perhaps he vacated something else and needs to change his suit. Maybe he SHOULD stick to the brown suits!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:05:49 AM
Dr Spitz is next.. buckle up... take some valium or a shot of your choice because it ought to be interesting  ::monkeywine2::

O this is going to get downright ugly...Dr Spitz is mincemeat once the State gets him on cross

but I do think Jeff is going to have to be less aggressive with Spitz.....he is OLD and Jeff doesn't want to appear beating up an old man!!
Maybe Linda should beat him up then...

This old goat is willing to lie on the stand so have at him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:05:55 AM
Y'know Casey picked this "lawyer" and has had three (?) years to see the real truth about him.  She deserves him.

I agree......they deserve each other.....a match made in HeLL!
She saw the true Baez early on after her arrests.  All those days she spent the entire day at his office, she sized him up.....he's just like ME!! (In her hap py voice)  They are both diabolical imo, this crap has been planned all along.  They stalled until the State gave them everything they had to figure out their ambushes.  I hope CJBP gives everything he can as punishment for Baez.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:06:40 AM
I guess Bozo's done for the day and Foghorn's taking over?

He's got to find a way to fix this mess before deposition time. The weasel. It's either that or maybe, just maybe he's in a corner somewhere crying like a little girl.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:06:46 AM
geez! between Dr. Spitz and Mumbles this could do me in! ..hope Dr. Spitz can stay awake through out his testimony! lol...he already looks sleepy..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 18, 2011, 10:06:50 AM
Y'know Casey picked this "lawyer" and has had three (?) years to see the real truth about him.  She deserves him.

Even her family kept telling her in jail they were concerned about Jose Baez. She's been warned over and over. Blech, blech!

Yes but she has a crush on Bozo per her jail letters. She could just sit and talk to him for hours.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:07:06 AM
I guess Bozo's done for the day and Foghorn's taking over?

My question is: Why did mumbles let JB go so far? This isn't the first time! Everyone keeps saying Cheney Mason has a good reputation, but he's stood *slept* by and allowed JB to go on and on. What the heck?


They are all very aware of what they are doing - Colonel Crusty is just as dirty


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:07:12 AM
MASON, has the b@lls to argue with the judge now

What the heck did he say? I couldn't understand him again.
Colonel Sanders wanted the judge to give the jury a reason for why there's a new witness on the stand.  The judge asked him if he wanted him to tell the truth!  lol

Gee, wouldn't that be a novel idea in a Court of Justice. Getting to the truth as to what happened to little Caylee and what Casey did to her. What a slap at Mason and the Defense with that comment by Perry insinuating that they are not telling the truth and not interested in the truth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 10:07:15 AM
It's Super Saturday Smackdown!!!

For sure!!   But why is he holding the contempt of court until the end of the trial!!!? 

I bet he's going to have more to consider before it's all over.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Probably has a lot to do with the defendant's rights?  Just guessing.

It's a death penalty case. If Baez's actions obviously violate KC's ability to a fair trial because of punitive actions toward him, it could become an appellate issue.  JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: melisb on June 18, 2011, 10:07:34 AM
Bozo still there at the table with his loved ones.  JP should have told the jury the truth about why he was changed like he asked Mason if he wanted him too.  Anyone catch the paleness on Bozos face while jury returning?  Classic!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tracy1 on June 18, 2011, 10:07:44 AM
Hi Redd, Turbo, Capp and all you beautiful monkeys witnessing for Caylee.

Always watch the trial with you...rarely comment...

Watch out for this Dr. Spitz...he is a snake in the grass...and shameless self promoter...his son is awesome and seems principled...but this guy thinks he is THE smartest man in the world and he will let you know.

I cant trust him, believe him or stand him...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:08:08 AM
MASON, has the b@lls to argue with the judge now

What the heck did he say? I couldn't understand him again.
Colonel Sanders wanted the judge to give the jury a reason for why there's a new witness on the stand.  The judge asked him if he wanted him to tell the truth!  lol

Lol! What a jerk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:08:43 AM
WTF? I thought the jury was going to get an explanation about the defense's antics and why the last witness was postponed?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Just so messed up!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 10:08:48 AM
geez! between Dr. Spitz and Mumbles this
 could do me in! ..hope Dr. Spitz can stay awake through out his testimony! lol...he already looks sleepy..

 ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I was just saying the same thing.

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 18, 2011, 10:09:26 AM
OMG this guy is straight out of the 19th century.  I'm sorry but if your medical training happened more than 60 years ago, you would not be on my expert witness list.... (no offense to any senior citizen monkeys.....)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:09:43 AM
I guess Bozo's done for the day and Foghorn's taking over?

My question is: Why did mumbles let JB go so far? This isn't the first time! Everyone keeps saying Cheney Mason has a good reputation, but he's stood *slept* by and allowed JB to go on and on. What the heck?

That's what I was thinking! AND...they knew since Baez was new, he could get away with more! If CM had tried that same thing, he wouldn't have gotten any mercy....because he's been around long enough to know better. UGH! They pizz me off!


They are all very aware of what they are doing - Colonel Crusty is just as dirty


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:09:44 AM
I hope Mason wasn't the one they intended to question this Dr.  That will just make them even less prepared.  It would be a little pay back for what they just did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:09:57 AM
Hi Redd, Turbo, Capp and all you beautiful monkeys witnessing for Caylee.

Always watch the trial with you...rarely comment...

Watch out for this Dr. Spitz...he is a snake in the grass...and shameless self promoter...his son is awesome and seems principled...but this guy thinks he is THE smartest man in the world and he will let you know.

I cant trust him, believe him or stand him...



Hey ya Tracy!   Im not concerned at all with this prune, he's going to fabricate crap for the defense & the State will totally discredit him on cross, possibly even including his shoddy work in other cases.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
OMG did they have to escort this Dr. Spitz here from a nursing home?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:10:47 AM
OMG this guy is straight out of the 19th century.  I'm sorry but if your medical training happened more than 60 years ago, you would not be on my expert witness list.... (no offense to any senior citizen monkeys.....)
::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 18, 2011, 10:10:52 AM
You might have a few doze on this witness if he testifies for very long.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:11:05 AM
I'm amazed that Mumbles is speaking clearly AND he appears to have no hearing issues today. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tracy1 on June 18, 2011, 10:11:17 AM
And that is just my opinion.....sorry..:)  Ya know how red flags go up when you hear that Henry Lee is connected to ANYTHING?  This guy is ten times him for me....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:11:44 AM
OMG this guy is straight out of the 19th century.  I'm sorry but if your medical training happened more than 60 years ago, you would not be on my expert witness list.... (no offense to any senior citizen monkeys.....)
It's the best the dufense can do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:12:02 AM
Hi Redd, Turbo, Capp and all you beautiful monkeys witnessing for Caylee.

Always watch the trial with you...rarely comment...

Watch out for this Dr. Spitz...he is a snake in the grass...and shameless self promoter...his son is awesome and seems principled...but this guy thinks he is THE smartest man in the world and he will let you know.

I cant trust him, believe him or stand him...



Hi Tracy... ::HelloKitty::

Post more often.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
Did he just say...junk professor??   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 10:12:19 AM
OMG did they have to escort this Dr. Spitz here from a nursing home?  ::MonkeyShocked::

I bet even Mumbles is feeling younger today.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:12:22 AM
LOL! The way Spitz says "adjunct" sounded like "a junk" professor! Hahaha


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 18, 2011, 10:12:37 AM
I miscalculated - his medical training was 71 years ago!!!!!!

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tracy1 on June 18, 2011, 10:13:29 AM

Thanks Capp..I NEEDED that!  My blood pressure was soaring....ahhh..you calmed me down now I can listen to this nut w/o jumping off my roof.  Capp...U r the best!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 10:13:50 AM
OMG this guy is straight out of the 19th century.  I'm sorry but if your medical training happened more than 60 years ago, you would not be on my expert witness list.... (no offense to any senior citizen monkeys.....)

haha I almost spit my coffee out...  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:13:50 AM
I'm amazed that Mumbles is speaking clearly AND he appears to have no hearing issues today. 

Yes...strange eh? Selective hearing, me thinks...the mumbling I think depends on how much he hit the bottle before coming to court that day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:14:18 AM
Anyone else think Casey even got her feathers ruffled by what just took place? She's got a new look today in her eyes. I can't figure out what the look is...any monkey have a clue?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 10:14:40 AM
OMG Casey is trying her best not to laught at this guy! rofl  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:14:44 AM
unless this doctor can testify to something in the bones that indicates Caylee indeed drowned, I hope the jury disregards everything else and lets common sense rules the day. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:14:54 AM
Mason has to look at the jury to see if his humor is going over?  NO it's not you old fool!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:14:57 AM
All we need now is Dr Cyril Wecht    ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:15:03 AM

Thanks Capp..I NEEDED that!  My blood pressure was soaring....ahhh..you calmed me down now I can listen to this nut w/o jumping off my roof.  Capp...U r the best!!

Awws   ::MonkeyWink::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:15:16 AM
OMG this guy is straight out of the 19th century.  I'm sorry but if your medical training happened more than 60 years ago, you would not be on my expert witness list.... (no offense to any senior citizen monkeys.....)

What is up with the defense expert witnesses? Either they have wet behind the wings Bug Boy like yesterday who was not only NOT an expert but also was lying on the witness stand to suit the needs of the defense and now this has been?

The extreme of experts should not be lost on the jury. To accept this guy's credential is to discredit Bug Boys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:15:44 AM
Did he just say...junk professor??   ::MonkeyHaHa::
I thought I heard him say that but then thought, "No, he didn't just say that!".   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:15:53 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Spitz will say the body was moved. Skull had sentiment on inside that showed it was on left side. Skull was found straight up. #caseyanthony
2 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:16:27 AM
blah, blah, blah....get to the good stuff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:16:37 AM
Anyone else think Casey even got her feathers ruffled by what just took place? She's got a new look today in her eyes. I can't figure out what the look is...any monkey have a clue?

If there is any way she can use what just happened to her advantage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:17:06 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Spitz will say the body was moved. Skull had sentiment on inside that showed it was on left side. Skull was found straight up. #caseyanthony
2 minutes ago
Did he mean "sediment"?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 10:17:24 AM
Dr. Spitz

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/bigspitz.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:17:35 AM
Bolstering....yea yea yea over 71 years you've received awards, that doesnt mean you're not willing to fabricate crap


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 10:17:47 AM
OMG he doesnt remember getting that award...i think Ashton will kill him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:18:24 AM

The extreme of experts should not be lost on the jury. To accept this guy's credential is to discredit Bug Boys.

Cwazy ain't it!!  ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:18:34 AM
Did he just say...junk professor??   ::MonkeyHaHa::
I thought I heard him say that but then thought, "No, he didn't just say that!".   ::MonkeyEek::

Yes, he said "adjunct" but it certainly sounded exactly like "a junk"! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:19:08 AM
Sir, do you remember getting run out of the Spector trial like a lying blabbering fool??
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tracy1 on June 18, 2011, 10:19:12 AM
Oh My Lord!!!  All of your monkey comments are so funny about Spitz I might have to borrow one of Dr. Transylvanias Depends!!! I am cracking up!

Yep...I won my wood working award in 1903...the soap box derby in 1909 and was there when medicine was invented.

But see his utter arrogance?? Even to the attorney employing him....{HAHA...yeah I know..its mumbles but....)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:19:25 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Spitz will say the body was moved. Skull had sentiment on inside that showed it was on left side. Skull was found straight up. #caseyanthony
2 minutes ago

And maybe it did.. however, if the area was flooded at some point, and obviously the body had been moved around by animals, then wouldn't this make some sense?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 10:19:33 AM
Enough already. As old as this guy is, going through everything he's been involved with could take forever.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:19:55 AM
Did lady gag gag leave?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
Well there you go thats why we dont know who really killed Kennedy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 18, 2011, 10:20:40 AM
Well there you go thats why we dont know who really killed Kennedy
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:20:42 AM
Does Mumbles really think that the jury is impressed by all this????  They'd probably appreciate just getting on with it.  I know I would.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:20:56 AM
Well there you go thats why we dont know who really killed Kennedy

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 10:21:07 AM
King Tuts first autopsy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 10:21:08 AM
Hi Redd, Turbo, Capp and all you beautiful monkeys witnessing for Caylee.

Always watch the trial with you...rarely comment...

Watch out for this Dr. Spitz...he is a snake in the grass...and shameless self promoter...his son is awesome and seems principled...but this guy thinks he is THE smartest man in the world and he will let you know.

I cant trust him, believe him or stand him...



another liar for hire, IMO....I don't trust him either.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:21:21 AM
I think whatever he testifies to better be straight forward and I hope the jury expects/wants to hear something about drowning.  Otherwise, Dr. G's testimony was so straight forward and consistent with common sense I don't think it can be overcome.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:21:39 AM
I believe the state is so ready for this guy......  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:21:48 AM
Oh My Lord!!!  All of your monkey comments are so funny about Spitz I might have to borrow one of Dr. Transylvanias Depends!!! I am cracking up!

Yep...I won my wood working award in 1903...the soap box derby in 1909 and was there when medicine was invented.

But see his utter arrogance?? Even to the attorney employing him....{HAHA...yeah I know..its mumbles but....)
I waiting for him to whip out a jar of leeches. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:21:51 AM
Oh My Lord!!!  All of your monkey comments are so funny about Spitz I might have to borrow one of Dr. Transylvanias Depends!!! I am cracking up!

Yep...I won my wood working award in 1903...the soap box derby in 1909 and was there when medicine was invented.

But see his utter arrogance?? Even to the attorney employing him....{HAHA...yeah I know..its mumbles but....)

lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:22:00 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Spitz will say the body was moved. Skull had sentiment on inside that showed it was on left side. Skull was found straight up. #caseyanthony
2 minutes ago

of course the skull was moved..by animals and the water! duh...Jeff will make that clear when he does the recross...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:22:05 AM
I believe the state is so ready for this guy......  ::MonkeyGavel::

WAY!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:22:24 AM
The reason why mason is going on and on and on and on with Spitz credentials is because what he is going to testify is bunk. The stradegy is to wow the jury with credentials that the lack luster nonsense he will testify to has nothing to do with this case.

All that experience and only publshed 4 books, that's it?

Ok Spitz lost me at doing work for UN.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: chelebele on June 18, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
Good morning Monkeys. I just woke up and I think I need more coffee for this. I can't believe I missed the smackdown this morning. Darn!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 10:22:54 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/5845467732_bba63f35c4_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:23:10 AM
Yes, lets talk about how many times you testified as an "expert witness."    What did you get snagged doing in those cases?   How many were for the defense?

O I cannot wait!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
I think whatever he testifies to better be straight forward and I hope the jury expects/wants to hear something about drowning.  Otherwise, Dr. G's testimony was so straight forward and consistent with common sense I don't think it can be overcome.

I agree...

not sure if Casey is liking this guy being her expert witness or not...she keeps giving sighs...looks sleepy...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:23:46 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Spitz will say the body was moved. Skull had sentiment on inside that showed it was on left side. Skull was found straight up. #caseyanthony
2 minutes ago
Did he mean "sediment"?   ::MonkeyEek::
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
:) That too! “@kissthedog: @JimLichtenstein sediment! not sentiment!!! LOL”
4 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 10:23:48 AM
Did lady gag gag leave?

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Lawyer Gaga is on the @WESH set if the #CaseyAnthony watchers are wondering where she went off too... twitpic.com/5dak54

http://twitter.com/RichardHornsby


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:23:49 AM
King Tuts first autopsy
OMG!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:24:10 AM
does this guy remember anything? his name? his gender? hello? mcfly?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:24:12 AM
When were you contacted?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 10:24:17 AM
Thank goodness, I was afraid we'd still be hearing his credentials on Monday.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 10:24:36 AM
 ::MonkeyEek:: dementia?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:24:56 AM
Oh dear God, he is having trouble answering the question of how he got involved in the case of Casey Anthony. ARE YOU SERIOUS?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:25:04 AM
Here we go, first sidebar re:  Spitz


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 10:25:20 AM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: I received a call, I think  ::MonkeyHaHa::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tracy1 on June 18, 2011, 10:25:21 AM
The reason why mason is going on and on and on and on with Spitz credentials is because what he is going to testify is bunk. The stradegy is to wow the jury with credentials that the lack luster nonsense he will testify to has nothing to do with this case.

All that experience and only publshed 4 books, that's it?

Ok Spitz lost me at doing work for UN.


Yes Red but he HAS published 96 articles....one for every year since graduating med school!! Jeez...the guy can only do so much..:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:25:24 AM
I believe the state is so ready for this guy......  ::MonkeyGavel::

WAY!
Jeff objects to start throwing Dr Spitz off his game


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:25:36 AM
Oh dear God, he is having trouble answering the question of how he got involved in the case of Casey Anthony. ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Because he was contacted before Caylee was identified as well


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:25:41 AM
Oh dear God, he is having trouble answering the question of how he got involved in the case of Casey Anthony. ARE YOU SERIOUS?
apparently so  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: DayOldDonuts on June 18, 2011, 10:25:58 AM
Bug guy, satan guy, old guy....it's like they all came off the island of misfit experts. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 10:26:31 AM
I think Dr. Spitz is having an alzheimer's moment. He can't seem to remember how he was called to this case!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:26:37 AM
bet there will be more things that the defense is going to try to sneak in with this witness and JP will come unglued! it won't be pretty...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:27:01 AM
That was quick, Side Bar already.

State not going to let the plodding adlibbing in testimony of this witness. Jeff Ashton has his game face on this Saturday morning.

Quick to the draw for side bar on whether Spitz is going to say that he wanted to be at autopsy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:27:21 AM
I think Dr. Spitz is having an alzheimer's moment. He can't seem to remember how he was called to this case!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Maybe he was trying to keep Jose's lies straight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tracy1 on June 18, 2011, 10:27:28 AM
::MonkeyEek:: dementia?



Nope.  I work with alzheimers patients..and THEY wouldn't hang out with this guy! .this is pure stupidity...my lowly opinion of course


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Love2Read on June 18, 2011, 10:27:42 AM
OMG did they have to escort this Dr. Spitz here from a nursing home?  ::MonkeyShocked::

I bet even Mumbles is feeling younger today.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
::MonkeyEek:: dementia?



Nope.  I work with alzheimers patients..and THEY wouldn't hang out with this guy! .this is pure stupidity...my lowly opinion of course

He doesnt want to admit when he was initially contacted, he will be made to on cross


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:28:18 AM
bet there will be more things that the defense is going to try to sneak in with this witness and JP will come unglued! it won't be pretty...

oh please oh please oh please oh pleaseeeeee please please!!!  :smt021


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tracy1 on June 18, 2011, 10:28:18 AM
I think Dr. Spitz is having an alzheimer's moment. He can't seem to remember how he was called to this case!   ::MonkeyTongue::
Maybe he was trying to keep Jose's lies straight.


Kitty you are killing me!!! ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 18, 2011, 10:28:28 AM
http://losangelestrials.blogspot.com/2009/02/phil-spector-trial-dr-werner-spitz.html (http://losangelestrials.blogspot.com/2009/02/phil-spector-trial-dr-werner-spitz.html)

"THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2009

Breaking news....Renowned witness, Dr Werner Spitz, was on the stand today and was confronted by DA Alan Jackson regarding how much money he was being paid by Phil Spector. Basically he flipped out on the witness stand, causing Judge Larry Paul Fidler, to ask all parties to remain calm. It was unbelievably scary! Some of the jurors actually looked frightened at the craziness of the witness...ladies and gentlemen...welcome to the Phil Spector Trial....stay tuned for more details!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:28:57 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:29:00 AM
youthful = useful


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:29:10 AM
Did ya'll see JP's hands working at the sidebar?  wow. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 10:29:14 AM
Bug guy, satan guy, old guy....it's like they all came off the island of misfit experts. 

This is true! 

I can't believe he had a hard time answering the first question~

I wonder when he'll start snoring...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:29:24 AM
Bug guy, satan guy, old guy....it's like they all came off the island of misfit experts. 
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:29:29 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

PS   Caylee was NOT identified yet so he had no standing to witness the autopsy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
I think whatever he testifies to better be straight forward and I hope the jury expects/wants to hear something about drowning.  Otherwise, Dr. G's testimony was so straight forward and consistent with common sense I don't think it can be overcome.

I agree...

not sure if Casey is liking this guy being her expert witness or not...she keeps giving sighs...looks sleepy...

I actually think she's huffy because of what happened with Baez! I think she wanted him to question this guy. Just my own take.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:30:05 AM
http://losangelestrials.blogspot.com/2009/02/phil-spector-trial-dr-werner-spitz.html (http://losangelestrials.blogspot.com/2009/02/phil-spector-trial-dr-werner-spitz.html)

"THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2009

Breaking news....Renowned witness, Dr Werner Spitz, was on the stand today and was confronted by DA Alan Jackson regarding how much money he was being paid by Phil Spector. Basically he flipped out on the witness stand, causing Judge Larry Paul Fidler, to ask all parties to remain calm. It was unbelievably scary! Some of the jurors actually looked frightened at the craziness of the witness...ladies and gentlemen...welcome to the Phil Spector Trial....stay tuned for more details!!!!!!!!!!!!"
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And this is who Baez called in as a witness?  ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:30:22 AM
darn! I hope I don't miss this cross with Jeff..I have to leave in an hour and a half!

wonder if George and Cindy are still in the court room?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 10:30:33 AM
Oh dear God, he is having trouble answering the question of how he got involved in the case of Casey Anthony. ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Well remember in one interview he stated that he believed he was involved with this case before Jose Baez was.

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:30:47 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

I keep waiting for him to heil hitler.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:30:48 AM
He sounds offended that Dr. G didn't let him take over her lab.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:31:06 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

PS   Caylee was NOT identified yet so he had no standing to witness the autopsy
::rhino::  Nobody did!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:31:09 AM
http://losangelestrials.blogspot.com/2009/02/phil-spector-trial-dr-werner-spitz.html (http://losangelestrials.blogspot.com/2009/02/phil-spector-trial-dr-werner-spitz.html)

"THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2009

Breaking news....Renowned witness, Dr Werner Spitz, was on the stand today and was confronted by DA Alan Jackson regarding how much money he was being paid by Phil Spector. Basically he flipped out on the witness stand, causing Judge Larry Paul Fidler, to ask all parties to remain calm. It was unbelievably scary! Some of the jurors actually looked frightened at the craziness of the witness...ladies and gentlemen...welcome to the Phil Spector Trial....stay tuned for more details!!!!!!!!!!!!"
THANK  YOU!!! Alan Jackson and  Jeff Ashton are so similar .. thats why this should be AWESOME!!     ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:31:12 AM
Spitz was denied being present during autopsy.

Spitz saying that it is customary.

Customary? I am guessing it would depend on what the State law says about the autopsy process. Look for Dr. G to take the stand again in the States rebut to discuss.

Dear Dr. Spitz, this is not 1930's Berlin Germany or the EU ... its called the United States of America.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 10:31:33 AM
::MonkeyEek:: dementia?



Nope.  I work with alzheimers patients..and THEY wouldn't hang out with this guy! .this is pure stupidity...my lowly opinion of course
I feel sorry for this Doc when JA gets ahold of him. They may have to take this poor old man out on a stretcher!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 10:31:35 AM
Did lady gag gag leave?

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Lawyer Gaga is on the @WESH set if the #CaseyAnthony watchers are wondering where she went off too... twitpic.com/5dak54

http://twitter.com/RichardHornsby
 Denying Having anything to do with this trainwreck?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:32:07 AM
He can't recall..   he can't remember.. he's not sure...     ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
no reaction from Casey about a this guy bringing a saw to the autopsy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:32:53 AM
darn! I hope I don't miss this cross with Jeff..I have to leave in an hour and a half!

wonder if George and Cindy are still in the court room?

Me too.

I have to leave in an hour.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:33:08 AM
Spitz was denied being present during autopsy.

Spitz saying that it is customary.

Customary? I am guessing it would depend on what the State law says about the autopsy process. Look for Dr. G to take the stand again in the Sattes rebut to discuss.

Not customary at all & Caylee was not identified so he had no business  being at an autopsy of a victim that was not identified to be connected to this case.   These experts were contacted PRIOR to Caylee's remains even being found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 10:33:13 AM
He sounds offended that Dr. G didn't let him take over her lab.

He needs to get over it... there's no access for his Hoveround! ::MonkeyBike::

Your Honor, give this man another award for not falling asleep. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:33:25 AM
He sounds offended that Dr. G didn't let him take over her lab.
Exactly what I thought!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:33:37 AM
He can't recall..   he can't remember.. he's not sure...     ::MonkeyNoNo::
and he cant hear  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:33:50 AM
no reaction from Casey about a this guy bringing a saw to the autopsy.

Of course not, all gruesome details she has not reacted as she did when the State presented their case & that is very telling.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:34:07 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

I keep waiting for him to heil hitler.

Isn't he Jewish?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:34:10 AM
Spitz was denied being present during autopsy.

Spitz saying that it is customary.

Customary? I am guessing it would depend on what the State law says about the autopsy process. Look for Dr. G to take the stand again in the States rebut to discuss.

Dear Dr. Spitz, this is not 1930's Berlin Germany or the EU ... its called the United States of America.
BBM - amen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Magnolia on June 18, 2011, 10:34:12 AM
::MonkeyEek:: dementia?


 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:34:21 AM
WTF?????? took you long enough Jeff


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 10:34:31 AM
Another bad storm, missed tis morning so far.  Got to catch up...

GM again monkeys. ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:34:32 AM
oh the drama...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 10:34:39 AM
youthful = useful

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:35:09 AM
Did lady gag gag leave?

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Lawyer Gaga is on the @WESH set if the #CaseyAnthony watchers are wondering where she went off too... twitpic.com/5dak54

http://twitter.com/RichardHornsby
 Denying Having anything to do with this trainwreck?


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I hope she stays gone or at least sits somewhere else. I'm tired of her being in every shot with the lawyers questioning witnesses...camera #hore.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:35:13 AM
oh NOW casey is shivering. But not during bug testimony? GMAFB!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:35:27 AM
Casey is looking like she is trying to muster up some tears now with this skull being shown..boo to the whooo...fake biotch


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 10:35:36 AM
darn! I hope I don't miss this cross with Jeff..I have to leave in an hour and a half!

wonder if George and Cindy are still in the court room?

Me too.

I have to leave in an hour.

Too bad.  He should have sawed it open and had Casey assist.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:36:03 AM
Werner Spitz discussing opening the skull and cutting the skull cap open with a saw using a model.

The jury is thinking Caylee's skull that this witness is discussing so matter of fact.

Not a good image for jurors. Way to go defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 10:36:21 AM
OMG..he brings a skull out, not Caylee's...but they are talking about her daughter's skull and she sits there with a scowl on her face.......I would be in a heap on the floor......WOW she is a hard biotch@!@!@


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 10:36:22 AM
I remember the Doctor from over the years and it is sad to see him age so  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am not a fan, it is just sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:36:34 AM
Casey's face doesn't show sadness to me as much as it does disgust.  she shouldn't be allowed to cover her face - she CAN look down or close her eyes. Seriously!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:36:40 AM
Casey is looking like she is trying to muster up some tears now with this skull being shown..boo to the whooo...fake biotch

O brother, here she goes....YES THIS IS WHAT YOU DID BEEOTCH  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:36:47 AM
Miz Anthony seems to be putting on her appropriate "this is disturbing" face during the testimony about opening Caylee's skull.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 10:36:59 AM
Another 15 minutes will pass while Spitz steps down


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:37:00 AM
Casey allowed to have Caylee's body further mutilated for herself. ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyHang::  ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 10:37:04 AM
Mumbles, who can't hear, questioning Dr. Spittle, who can't hear.  This is a court reporter's worst nightmare.   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:37:06 AM
awww....look at the momster...she's trying to work up tears.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Anna on June 18, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

PS   Caylee was NOT identified yet so he had no standing to witness the autopsy


 ::rhino::


I sure hope Jeff Ashton remembers this.  Yes, it would be highly inappropriate for this man to be in a State of Florida autopsy!  I certainly would not want the old geezer in mine.  He seems to think he is entitled to do whatever he wants.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 10:37:15 AM
Casey turning on the fakeness.

Such the little actress!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:37:19 AM
Casey's reaction not upset enough to not comment pissy to one of her attorneys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:37:20 AM
seriously? (fake) tears for this?     ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:37:23 AM
there goes Casey..trying to look distressed! wait for it..wait for it..here it comes..assume the position Casey Ho....getting worked up..poke the eyeballs next...milk the nose...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 10:37:32 AM
Here comes the acting  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingcasey2::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:37:34 AM
Casey is looking like she is trying to muster up some tears now with this skull being shown..boo to the whooo...fake biotch
maybe she should have a siezure??  ::MonkeyHaHa::
faker


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 10:37:47 AM
Oh here it comes.....the grieving mother act......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:37:48 AM
I just wish he had brought a child size skull to reinforce how little and defenseless Caylee was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monken on June 18, 2011, 10:38:09 AM
Casey is looking like she is trying to muster up some tears now with this skull being shown..boo to the whooo...fake biotch


Yeah, that's her cue, she'll have to pinch herself really hard!!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 10:38:22 AM
Casey is looking like she is trying to muster up some tears now with this skull being shown..boo to the whooo...fake biotch

Yeah or she's going to fake being sick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Love2Read on June 18, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
I hope this old man flips out today...I wouln't mind  a little more Saturday morning excitement. LOL
Casey trying for an acting award....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:39:35 AM
she is so predictable..and so fake..
I wish I could smack her face! I know, I know, get in line right behind the rest of you lol... ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:39:46 AM
seriously? (fake) tears for this?     ::MonkeyNoNo::

She either needs to throw up or shut up. No one is buying it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 10:39:58 AM
Another bad storm, missed tis morning so far.  Got to catch up...

GM again monkeys. ::monkeywine2::

You'll definitely want to watch the video of what you missed!   ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:40:01 AM
Come on, show us where the meningeal artery is!  I dare you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:40:05 AM
Notice how she's sitting straight up so that the jury can see her 'distress'.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:40:11 AM
Does Dr. Frankenstein know he's not testifying to JFK's autopsy?  Just making sure..  ::MonkeyRoll:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 10:40:29 AM
Miz Anthony seems to be putting on her appropriate "this is disturbing" face during the testimony about opening Caylee's skull.

She had a failing grade on "appropriate expression" yesterday, so I'm sure she's been freshly schooled for today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 10:40:33 AM
OMG are they actually sawing that skull open in court?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:40:44 AM
seriously? (fake) tears for this?     ::MonkeyNoNo::

She either needs to throw up or shut up. No one is buying it.

throw up or shut up!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:41:13 AM
there goes Casey..trying to look distressed! wait for it..wait for it..here it comes..assume the position Casey Ho....getting worked up..poke the eyeballs next...milk the nose...

milk the nose...lol!!!

Right before she started, she had her hands under the table doing something... bet she was pinching herself or digging her nails into her legs. "Cry d@mn it, Cry!!!"

Nope... oh well, I'll fake nausea again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 10:42:46 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/spitz.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:42:54 AM
I thought Roy kronk still had the brain


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:43:04 AM
she is trying to get sick...or acting like she is sick..this is a skull, not belonging to anyone that Casey knows and she is trying to be "upset"..yet when they were talking about her daughter's actual remains with bugs and maggots on the baby, she didn't flinch...she is sooooooo fake! I hate her...She makes me angry and gets my blood pressure going and I have really low blood pressure! grrrrr!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:43:12 AM
The brain disappeared??  Why not say it the WAY IT IS???   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 10:43:17 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcbrkdown.jpg)


(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcbrk.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:43:26 AM
Come on, show us where the meningeal artery is!  I dare you!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
What is he going to say that the significance of this is ... the brain material?

Sorry to be flip but will he testify that there was pool water present? I find it impossible to believe thta Dr. G would not have done a procedure during an autopsy if it was required and neccessary.

I have no idea where he is going with this? HELP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 10:43:49 AM
What is your opinion on the remaining tobacco residue, Dr. Spitz?

 ::MonkeyWhistle::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:43:55 AM
Couldn't the body have been laying on the left side most of the time?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:43:55 AM
I thought Roy kronk still had the brain

lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:44:37 AM

So, my question is...what can this witness add? There is no way this guy can say he can know Caylee drowned. Not by just the bones. So, what can he say that would hurt the state?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:45:04 AM
Casey, you are so transparent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:45:13 AM
I thought Roy kronk still had the brain

 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:45:13 AM
What is your opinion on the remaining tobacco residue, Dr. Spitz?

 ::MonkeyWhistle::

I just hope he can confirm the expert definition of food that we heard yesterday.  I'm still unclear on what it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:45:48 AM
What was the point of that?  With the animal activity no one can say for sure how many times the skull was moved, flipped, turned, etc?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:45:51 AM
Casey's protruding forehead isnt upset its anger, she's attempting to force her face to convey something else.   Her turning away is inconsistent & if it truly upset her she would not be able to control her upset....notably she didnt even attempt to appear upset on the three year anniversary of Caylee's death, according to her lie by accidental drowning versus what it is murder by Casey's hand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:45:54 AM
What is he going to say that the significance of this is ... the brain material?

Sorry to be flip but will he testify that there was pool water present? I find it impossible to believe thta Dr. G would not have done a procedure during an autopsy if it was required and neccessary.

I have no idea where he is going with this? HELP.

That is exactly what I'm wondering. I think this guy does come across as credible. So, I hope Ashton and discredit his testimony. Don't throw bananas...I'm speaking from a position of trying to pretend I don't know anything about this case, as if I were a juror...listening with fresh ears. So, what can he say?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:46:10 AM
Couldn't the body have been laying on the left side most of the time?

I'm sure Casey didn't wait around to see how the trash bag landed after she threw it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:46:27 AM
did you just see Casey there? she theatrically made certain that it showed her "distress" over this happening and then she looks out of the corner of her eye and lifts her head again..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:46:36 AM
Dr Spitz testifies that skull was positioned on the left side on the ground.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:46:36 AM
she is trying to get sick...or acting like she is sick..this is a skull, not belonging to anyone that Casey knows and she is trying to be "upset"..yet when they were talking about her daughter's actual remains with bugs and maggots on the baby, she didn't flinch...she is sooooooo fake! I hate her...She makes me angry and gets my blood pressure going and I have really low blood pressure! grrrrr!


Breathe nice and slow...relax... ::monkeywine2::

Jeff is coming, Cookie. Jeff is coming.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:46:36 AM
"very little if any bones missing"... um, wasn't a hand and foot missing? (i realize they're small bones, but I would say that doesn't = little to no bones missing)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:47:21 AM
Casey's protruding forehead isnt upset its anger, she's attempting to force her face to convey something else.   Her turning away is inconsistent & if it truly upset her she would not be able to control her upset....notably she didnt even attempt to appear upset on the three year anniversary of Caylee's death, according to her lie by accidental drowning versus what it is murder by Casey's hand.
KC's lack of conscience = lack of sorrow


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:47:38 AM
Couldn't the body have been laying on the left side most of the time?

I'm sure Casey didn't wait around to see how the trash bag landed after she threw it.

Yes, in the trunk & in the woods until the flood came....this is fabricated goobley goop


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 10:47:39 AM
I hope this old man flips out today...I wouln't mind  a little more Saturday morning excitement. LOL
Casey trying for an acting award....

I'm not sure he has the stamina to flip out. I'm still holding out hope for a flop out, though.

I wish Baez were playing Egor to Dr. Frankenstein rather than Mason. He's most entertaining when Ashton is doing cross. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:47:50 AM
So far nothing inconsistent with state witness testimony.  Nothing new except for the brain was gone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 10:47:58 AM
Casey, you are so transparent.
Exactly.   ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Useless testimony.. They gave him a day pass from the home for this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:48:22 AM
So far nothing inconsistent with state witness testimony.  Nothing new except for the brain was gone.
  Which I would assume would be completely expected.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 10:48:30 AM
Yes, lets talk about how many times you testified as an "expert witness."    What did you get snagged doing in those cases?   How many were for the defense?

O I cannot wait!

Let's talk about when he was the medical examiner and he called a homicide a suicide..because he didn't take the time to view the crime scene properly, the blood trajection..and totally missed a second bullet hole in the corpse...and the vics family took a peice of this old man's ass for it..can you imagine someone telling you your son committed suicide when he was murdered..and there was a witness to the murder..and a witness at the scene when he arrived and saw he didn't do his job properly at the crime scene or in the autopsy?  The man is an old fool who should have retired and played golf long ago.

Who in their right mind would want this man's opinion on anything if he can't tell the difference between a homicide and a sucide/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:48:31 AM
Useless testimony.. They gave him a day pass from the home for this?
::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Love2Read on June 18, 2011, 10:48:41 AM
Must be nice for Mason to be the young whippersnapper for a while...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 10:48:42 AM
Actually, I'd be willing to bet after 5 minutes this guy could get Casey to tell him what exactly happened to Caylee- what say ye?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:48:47 AM
here come the fake tears...looking at tissue to see if anything is on it...so gross..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:48:50 AM
Thanks from the prosecution for explaining how the animals chew on the flesh on the long bones. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:49:08 AM
I thought that was exactly what Dr. G testified to about the leg bone being opened.  they sent samples from the bone out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:49:27 AM
did you just see Casey there? she theatrically made certain that it showed her "distress" over this happening and then she looks out of the corner of her eye and lifts her head again..

Sly she ain't.

Oh look...she squeezed out a tear! The ol pepper-off-my-dinner-plate-hidden-in-my-kleenex-and-stuck-in-my-eye trick always works!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 10:49:29 AM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/prose.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:49:58 AM
did he say MOOSELY on the face? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:50:04 AM
There was no bone marrow you ole fart.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: chelebele on June 18, 2011, 10:50:20 AM
I'll bet Dr G is somewhere throwing things at her tv/computer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:50:23 AM
I think this guy is going to conclude that Caylee had been dead for 2 years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:50:24 AM
Must be nice for Mason to be the young whippersnapper for a while...
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:50:46 AM
Casey, you are so transparent.
Exactly.   ::boxingcasey2::
Casey's crying act right now translates to....damn it Caylee, the animals were supposed to EAT ALL your bones, not just gnaw on them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:51:07 AM
I'll bet Dr G is somewhere throwing things at her tv/computer.
Oh, I bet she's laughing her butt off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 10:51:15 AM
did he say MOOSELY on the face? 

yeth. he moth abtholutely did! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 10:51:21 AM
did he say MOOSELY on the face? 

No, he said "moothly"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:51:28 AM
Wow, he brought a whole arsenal of protective gear to keep himself from being contaminated.   ::MonkeyTongue::  The child's skeleton was found.. you're telling me that NOBODY told him the state of the remains?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 10:51:31 AM
I don't know about Casey, but listening to this testimony about the autopsy my tears are genuine. (http://i55.tinypic.com/2yv1dl3.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:51:42 AM
For someone so precise he is getting her age wrong she wasn't three.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:51:56 AM
I hope this old man flips out today...I wouln't mind  a little more Saturday morning excitement. LOL
Casey trying for an acting award....

I'm not sure he has the stamina to flip out. I'm still holding out hope for a flop out, though.

I wish Baez were playing Egor to Dr. Frankenstein rather than Mason. He's most entertaining when Ashton is doing cross. 

LOL...that's who I was trying to think of...he reminds me of Frankenstein!

Waiting on the edge of my seat for Ashton!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:52:19 AM
Let's cut to the chase Dr Spittoon....what did that residue you claim to be so important tell you?   What that the remains of a murdered child were on their side...and so what?

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HANDLE the remains of this child during a State autopsy of an unidentified body!!!!   Now, you are making claims about duct tape - well it was on her hair & the circle pattern speaks for itself....okay Im breathing with confidence knowing the State will deal with this crap, just venting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:52:22 AM
How many of Jeff's objections has JP overruled so far?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:52:30 AM
Dr G did such a good job of testimony during the State's case and put the defense on the defensive, that I hardly think they wanted her back on the witness stand.

However, after Spitz' testimony and going after the autopsy she will have to be back on it for the State and am sure there will be explanations to all that this old codger is discussing.

During cross today Ashton does need to realize that he can't look like he is beating up on an old man. Bug Boy was one thing, Spitz is another.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 10:52:53 AM
This is totally ridiculous.  He brought a lot of gloves...and aprons...but he didn't need to use them
He touched the bones with his bare hands...just like he is doing with this model skull right now.

I bet the jury is just blown away with this!!!  (sarcasm alert)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: chelebele on June 18, 2011, 10:52:59 AM
This makes me want to watch "Rocky and Bullwinkle" for some reason.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 10:53:06 AM
Casey, you are so transparent.

I've been watching and she's got it down to an art: It's a four step process:
1.  Wipe face or eyes with Kleenex
2.  Stick out lower jaw while inhaling
3.  Flare nostrils
4.  Examine Kleenex


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:53:16 AM
There was no bone marrow you ole fart.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:53:30 AM
so he just said the duct tape was held there by roots and hair. Um, is he testifying for the state?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:53:36 AM
There was no adhesive left on the tape.....it most likely is in the same place as the skin.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 10:53:57 AM
Casey, you are so transparent.

I've been watching and she's got it down to an art: It's a four step process:
1.  Wipe face or eyes with Kleenex
2.  Stick out lower jaw while inhaling
3.  Flare nostrils
4.  Examine Kleenex

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 18, 2011, 10:54:13 AM
I see ICA is rocking in her chair this morning.  I think I will watch the rest of the trial on and off and follow in her on and off cause it is getting me so upset I can't sleep at night anymore.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:54:22 AM
Let's cut to the chase Dr Spittoon....what did that residue you claim to be so important tell you?   What that the remains of a murdered child were on their side...and so what?

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HANDLE the remains of this child during a State autopsy of an unidentified body!!!!   Now, you are making claims about duct tape - well it was on her hair & the circle pattern speaks for itself....okay Im breathing with confidence knowing the State will deal with this crap, just venting.

Come on Doc Frankenstein! If it was on the hair, it was on the skin!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:54:32 AM
I don't know about Casey, but listening to this testimony about the autopsy my tears are genuine. (http://i55.tinypic.com/2yv1dl3.jpg)

Icey  :smt056


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:54:32 AM
"nothing on the bone that would suggest duct tape".... nothing on the duct tape to suggest placement on the skin...

first off, there IS NO SKIN LEFT.  second, the body was out in the elements for how long? third, the duct tape wasn't placed on top of bone, you a$$hat!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:54:52 AM
Casey, you are so transparent.

I've been watching and she's got it down to an art: It's a four step process:
1.  Wipe face or eyes with Kleenex
2.  Stick out lower jaw while inhaling
3.  Flare nostrils
4.  Examine Kleenex

 ::rhino::

trout gasp - don't forget her copyrighted, trademarked and patented trout gasp!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 10:55:07 AM
http://losangelestrials.blogspot.com/2009/02/phil-spector-trial-dr-werner-spitz.html (http://losangelestrials.blogspot.com/2009/02/phil-spector-trial-dr-werner-spitz.html)

"THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2009

Breaking news....Renowned witness, Dr Werner Spitz, was on the stand today and was confronted by DA Alan Jackson regarding how much money he was being paid by Phil Spector. Basically he flipped out on the witness stand, causing Judge Larry Paul Fidler, to ask all parties to remain calm. It was unbelievably scary! Some of the jurors actually looked frightened at the craziness of the witness...ladies and gentlemen...welcome to the Phil Spector Trial....stay tuned for more details!!!!!!!!!!!!"

We may see something similar when Jeff does his cross examination. Spitz is a loose cannon!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:55:09 AM
Spitz did say that the duct tape was loosly on the face.

Well with a lack of soft tissue and skull that was skeletonized, i think we can draw a conclusion as to where the duct tape initially was.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:55:41 AM
why was duct tape on this child's face for any reason at any time???
it was there...even this doctor is saying that it is there..why?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: DayOldDonuts on June 18, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
Casey's protruding forehead isnt upset its anger, she's attempting to force her face to convey something else.   Her turning away is inconsistent & if it truly upset her she would not be able to control her upset....notably she didnt even attempt to appear upset on the three year anniversary of Caylee's death, according to her lie by accidental drowning versus what it is murder by Casey's hand.

I would love to read an expert's (but dear Lord, not a defense expert's) analysis of her body language.  The puckered brow is definitely not grief.  Nor is the one hand shielding her face.  When you are upset, you bury your face in your hands.  She looks like my kids when they are making a big show about not peeking when walking past the Christmas tree at 4 AM Christmas morning to "go to the bathroom." 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 10:56:01 AM
So who is he thaying plathed the duct tap on the skull? He is implying it was place to keep the lower jaw in place? By the crime scene investigators?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 10:56:18 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing jury's attention.. They are stretching and shifting in their chairs

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:56:22 AM
Spitz did say that the duct tape was loosly on the face.

Well with a lack of soft tissue and skull that was skeletonized, i think we can draw a conclusion as to where the duct tape initially was.



I just think that unless he says something really clear cut, the jury will rely on their common sense.  Fortunalty, Dr. G's testimony was consistent with common sense. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:56:24 AM
He's expecting DNA on the tape.

GOOD LAWD help us!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:56:36 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing jury's attention.. They are stretching and shifting in their chairs

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)
::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:56:40 AM
Dr Spittoon just made an ascertain that he would have expected DNA on the duct tape, despite the flood & 6 months going by....that is NOT credible at all


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
Let's cut to the chase Dr Spittoon....what did that residue you claim to be so important tell you?   What that the remains of a murdered child were on their side...and so what?

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HANDLE the remains of this child during a State autopsy of an unidentified body!!!!   Now, you are making claims about duct tape - well it was on her hair & the circle pattern speaks for itself....okay Im breathing with confidence knowing the State will deal with this crap, just venting.

I'm with you.  The duct tape speaks for itself regardless of expert witness theories.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:57:14 AM
he did a very scientific experiment....  putting duct tape on his skin, and ripping out his arm hair.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  how much did Bozo pay for that bit of science?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:57:15 AM
The duct tape was never pulled off.  Why is he talking about it being pulled off?  DNA decays right, just like the rest of her body did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 10:57:17 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing jury's attention.. They are stretching and shifting in their chairs

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)
lol...bet they wish he'd just hush.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 10:57:22 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Woman ejected from balcony. I think she was asleep. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Mtnmom on June 18, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Casey, you are so transparent.

I've been watching and she's got it down to an art: It's a four step process:
1.  Wipe face or eyes with Kleenex
2.  Stick out lower jaw while inhaling
3.  Flare nostrils
4.  Examine Kleenex

 ::rhino::

trout gasp - don't forget her copyrighted, trademarked and patented trout gasp!
and the trout pout when shes mad


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
It is almost showtime because there isnt much left to ask him  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:57:55 AM
why was duct tape on this child's face for any reason at any time???
it was there...even this doctor is saying that it is there..why?

I know. This is stupid.

May as well claim she died by accident while playing with duct tape!

Stupid stupid stupid!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:58:19 AM
What? And who the hell would believe that somebody put duct tape on a decomposing body?? are you bleeping kidding me??   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 10:58:19 AM
This makes me want to watch "Rocky and Bullwinkle" for some reason.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Natasha, darlink, I beweive you are schrewed, blued and most definitely tatooted.  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 10:58:24 AM
GaryTuchmanCNN Gary Tuchman
Defense in Casey Anthony case has still made NO effort to back up drowning/sexual molestation story. #ac360 #cnn

http://twitter.com/#!/GaryTuchmanCNN (http://twitter.com/#!/GaryTuchmanCNN)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:58:27 AM
so the tape was put on while her body was rotting or after she decayed to bone, REALLY, wow. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 10:58:28 AM
The duct tape was a later event....after decomposition!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 10:58:34 AM
Why on earth would anyone put duct tape on "after" decomposition??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:58:34 AM
Tell me Dr Spittoon, why would you put duct tape on a body, much less a child AFTER decomposiiton....that makes NO sense


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:58:35 AM
it was put on after decomp?? comical you old fool  ::MonkeyJnBox::  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 10:58:58 AM
Spitz says: The duct tape was put on after decomposition.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 10:59:03 AM
so the tape was put on while her body was rotting or after she decayed to bone, REALLY, wow. 

sorry to quote myself but wouldn't you expect to find a whole lot more on the tape if it was put on a rotting soapy body?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 10:59:05 AM
I sure hope Dr. Spitz wore his depends today cause when JA starts cross examining him he's liable to chit in his pants!  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 10:59:08 AM
What a fruitcake!  So he thinks someone placed the duct tape on Caylee's skull AFTER decomp?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 10:59:12 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He's losing jury's attention.. They are stretching and shifting in their chairs

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

God bless em! I have been counting the popcorns in my ceiling. This is worse than water boarding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 10:59:28 AM
OMG..........

Grumpy Old Guy: There was nothing on the bone to suggest duct tape. There was nothing on the tape to suggest skin.


????? The tape wasn't attched to the bone, Mr. Magoo! The tissue and muscle had to rot away first. The tape's adhesive and string fiber had literally slipped down the piece of tape to the point that it was transparent! Tissue or DNA just didn't survive the swamp, hurricane, heat and swamp that KC put her child in!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:59:34 AM
it was put on after decomp?? comical you old fool  ::MonkeyJnBox::  ::MonkeyDevil::
   The jury can't possibly believe this.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 10:59:40 AM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
Spitz believes tape was placed to keep jaw in place - post mortem.

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 10:59:51 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Woman ejected from balcony. I think she was asleep. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)

Ha ha. The picture that painted in my mind at first... as if she jumped to end her torture of listening to this stupidity. Until I read she was asleep...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 10:59:53 AM
wait till Jeff gets ahold of this guy! can't wait..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

I keep waiting for him to heil hitler.

Isn't he Jewish?

Yes, he's Israeli. I believe he's a sabra. They all have that accent.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
did he say MOOSELY on the face? 

yeth. he moth abtholutely did! ::MonkeyWink::
Y'all are cracking me right up this mornin'.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
Jeff will have so much fun with him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 11:00:16 AM
JustUs4Caylee Just Us
Did you submerge your duct taped arm under water for 6 months before removing it Dr. Spit????? Hell to the NO! @ssclown! #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/JustUs4Caylee (http://twitter.com/JustUs4Caylee) 
Edit-fixed link.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 18, 2011, 11:00:18 AM
I wonder if the jury knows that this so called expert witness is not a credible person.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:00:21 AM
Why on earth would anyone put duct tape on "after" decomposition??

The only guess I have is that you want everybody to buy your kidnapping theory after you chloroform your kid to death


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:00:30 AM
How many of Jeff's objections has JP overruled so far?

Judge Perry is letting Spitz & Mumbles bury themselves today, just like yesterday.  He is adding material for Ashton to attack on cross.  Not JP's first rodeo and he know Spitz's reputation.

OMG....he just said 'duct tape applied after decomp.'   Somebody let the body out in the woods and then duct taped the skull.
Trust me....he is toast.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 11:00:32 AM
What a fruitcake!  So he thinks someone placed the duct tape on Caylee's skull AFTER decomp?
Someone needs to take Grandpa back to the lab at 1313 Mockingbird Lane.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:00:34 AM
And again, why even put it on at all? If she'd accidently drowned, she wouldn't have been thrown away like trash! She would have been gently buried and shown some respect. So, why go so far as to put duct tape on, as if to say "shut-up"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:00:34 AM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Ashton is frantically scribbling notes and fidgeting. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:01:07 AM
Let's say the crime scene was staged... by Kronk..  who the defense claims had the body for months before putting it out in the woods to be found.. the tape would NOT look the way it was found, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Mere on June 18, 2011, 11:01:15 AM
Casey, you are so transparent.

I've been watching and she's got it down to an art: It's a four step process:
1.  Wipe face or eyes with Kleenex
2.  Stick out lower jaw while inhaling
3.  Flare nostrils
4.  Examine Kleenex

I think she also uses her fingers to mark her cheeks (when she wipes) so her cheeks
are then red.

She also looks like someone who has had botox injections in her forehead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:01:18 AM
I am seriously considering cremation..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:01:18 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'll bet it was one of the elementary school kids.  You know how they are.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
stevehelling Steve Helling
The jury is listening intently. Lots of note taking. But not juror 2. He never takes any notes. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:01:25 AM
What a fruitcake!  So he thinks someone placed the duct tape on Caylee's skull AFTER decomp?
Someone needs to take Grandpa back to the lab at 1313 Mockingbird Lane.
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 11:01:31 AM
just showed Cindy cracking up with a guy! who could laugh during this time? about what? weird people the Anthonys...Cookie shakes her head in disgust..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:01:35 AM
If there was ZERO soft tissue on the skull after 6 months, why did he expect to find anything on the tape??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:02:17 AM
OMG..........

Grumpy Old Guy: There was nothing on the bone to suggest duct tape. There was nothing on the tape to suggest skin.


????? The tape wasn't attched to the bone, Mr. Magoo! The tissue and muscle had to rot away first. The tape's adhesive and string fiber had literally slipped down the piece of tape to the point that it was transparent! Tissue or DNA just didn't survive the swamp, hurricane, heat and swamp that KC put her child in!

This witness has jumped the shark.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 11:02:17 AM
It is almost showtime because there isnt much left to ask him  ::MonkeyGavel::
::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:02:21 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Spitz says he can't be certain duct tape was ever placed on Caylee's body. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 11:02:30 AM
Tell me Dr Spittoon, why would you put duct tape on a body, much less a child AFTER decomposiiton....that makes NO sense
Because RK put it there, after he took the body out of his freezer, broke into the A's to grab all the things found at the crime scene, and stage the scattering of bones, (RK had pet rats, so that's where the gnaw marks came from) and then call LE so he could get a reward that wasn't even being offered.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:02:37 AM
Spitz says: The duct tape was put on after decomposition.  ::MonkeyEek::


Tell us Dr Spittoon how would duct tape stick to a body liquefying in the decomposition process?

"this child" has a name, her name is Caylee Marie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 11:02:37 AM
JustUs4Caylee Just Us
Did you submerge your duct taped arm under water for 6 months before removing it Dr. Spit????? Hell to the NO! @ssclown! #caseyanthony

ttp://twitter.com/JustUs4Caylee

edited to correct link

http://twitter.com/JustUs4Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:02:42 AM
I am seriously considering cremation..
Ashton is about to cremate this guy. Just wait!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:03:02 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

I keep waiting for him to heil hitler.

Isn't he Jewish?

Yes, he's Israeli. I believe he's a sabra. They all have that accent.

Thanks Curly. I thought so. Which actually makes this hard for me. Because I have always had tremendous respect for Foresenic Pathologist and Forensic Anthropoligist who are Jewish and trained in Israel. Normally, they are very well trained. However, I guess anyone can 'sell out". So, I dunno. sigh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:03:11 AM
Jeff will have so much fun with him

I can't wait....unfortunately we are going to have to wait till Monday I'm afraid.  Worse than a kid waiting for Christmas.

 ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:03:16 AM
How can he rule out suicide?  If you can't use common sense then how can you honestly rule out suicide either?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:03:28 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Cindy Anthony was just smiling in court during the quick sidebar #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:03:33 AM
He ruled out suicide.  Well, I should hope so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 18, 2011, 11:03:50 AM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Ashton is frantically scribbling notes and fidgeting. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)
Fidgetting cause he can't wait to get to him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 11:03:55 AM
mumbles...can you rule out suicide? are you fricking kidding me right now? an almost 3 year old child?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
He cannot tell what the manner of death is/was.  I thought he was here to suggest she died by drowning?  Did grandpa forget?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 18, 2011, 11:04:33 AM
I don't know with a mother like Casey "suicide" might be an option. What a dumb thing to ask him.
I have a headache this am and this is not helping.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:04:42 AM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Ashton is frantically scribbling notes and fidgeting. #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)
Fidgetting cause he can't wait to get to him.

Chomping at the bit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:04:43 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

I keep waiting for him to heil hitler.

Isn't he Jewish?

Yes, he's Israeli. I believe he's a sabra. They all have that accent.

Thanks Curly. I thought so. Which actually makes this hard for me. Because I have always had tremendous respect for Foresenic Pathologist and Forensic Anthropoligist who are Jewish and trained in Israel. Normally, they are very well trained. However, I guess anyone can 'sell out". So, I dunno. sigh
I thought he said he was trained here in the US?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:04:54 AM
He ruled out suicide.  Well, I should hope so.
::MonkeyShocked:: WTF  ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:05:14 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'll bet it was one of the elementary school kids.  You know how they are.

C'mon Klaas, this happens all the time. People put duct tape on skulls all the time after they find them in the woods after accidental drownings and their cars smell like rancid death.

Spitz should be ashamaed on himself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:05:20 AM
WOO HOO!   10 min recess and then the bloodbath begins!  ::boxingjeffbaez::    Go Ashton


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 11:05:30 AM
Recess for ten minutes...

maybe I'll get to see some of JA in action.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 11:05:38 AM
Drat!  But get the break over now, because we have not seen the fat lady sing yet!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 18, 2011, 11:05:44 AM
Here it comes...oh boy!! Go Ashton, Go Ashton!!! ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:05:53 AM
Casey Anthony trial: Details emerge about her clothes, hair, makeup and lunches


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-clothes-20110615,0,7570033.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cookie on June 18, 2011, 11:06:16 AM
WOO HOO!   10 min recess and then the bloodbath begins!  ::boxingjeffbaez::    Go Ashton

good..gonna get dressed now! ready for Jeff to wipe this guys arse...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:06:23 AM
Spitz says: The duct tape was put on after decomposition.  ::MonkeyEek::

By someone who wanted the skull to be found intact so they calculated the rate of decomp and calculated that the hair mat would help hold the tape to enable the tape to hold the jaw in place.

That makes so much more sense than somebody taping Caylee's mouth shut because they wanted her to be quiet (which means she was alive), or to smother her (also alive).   :roll:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:06:32 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

I keep waiting for him to heil hitler.

Isn't he Jewish?

Yes, he's Israeli. I believe he's a sabra. They all have that accent.

Thanks Curly. I thought so. Which actually makes this hard for me. Because I have always had tremendous respect for Foresenic Pathologist and Forensic Anthropoligist who are Jewish and trained in Israel. Normally, they are very well trained. However, I guess anyone can 'sell out". So, I dunno. sigh
I thought he said he was trained here in the US?

Both. Here and in Israel at Hebrew University--which has a great reputation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:06:41 AM
Jeff has a little smirk on his face.  Linda should make sure his coffee is decaff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:06:47 AM
Jeff will have so much fun with him

I can't wait....unfortunately we are going to have to wait till Monday I'm afraid.  Worse than a kid waiting for Christmas.

 ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyShovel::
Right after this break and then 2 hrs of fireworks  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:07:05 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Spitz says there are 4 manners of death- suicide/accidental/homicide/natural causes. he says he can not say what Caylee's manner of death is

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:07:19 AM
I am seriously considering cremation..
So right there with you on that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 11:07:23 AM
I can't seem to stay on line(dsl{)4 more then a few minutes at a time, then an hour or more goes by.

Did I miss anything?  I see mason is done.  Hope I stay on line....

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:07:38 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'll bet it was one of the elementary school kids.  You know how they are.
::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:07:48 AM
I wish they would go into why he ruled out a suicide.  He would have to explain that even though there is really no scientfic evidence to back up that conclusion he came to it based on the surrounding information, facts, and common sense.  That is exactly how Dr. G came to her conclusion that it was a homicide.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 11:08:01 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Right..and Hello old fart..the duct tape was so deteriorated there wasn't any glue left on the back..so the duct tape was there prior to decomp.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: DayOldDonuts on June 18, 2011, 11:08:04 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'll bet it was one of the elementary school kids.  You know how they are.

So true.  Throwing heart stickers willy-nilly and now this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:08:26 AM
I wish they would go into why he ruled out a suicide.  He would have to explain that even though there is really no scientfic evidence to back up that conclusion he came to it based on the surrounding information, facts, and common sense.  That is exactly how Dr. G came to her conclusion that it was a homicide.
Exactly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 11:08:32 AM
Btw my basement is flooding...
Hope Jeff takes it to the next level with Dr. S.
 ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:08:33 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz testified duct tape was placed over skull after decomposition.. And says he can't rule out accidental death

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:09:23 AM
I wish they would go into why he ruled out a suicide.  He would have to explain that even though there is really no scientfic evidence to back up that conclusion he came to it based on the surrounding information, facts, and common sense.  That is exactly how Dr. G came to her conclusion that it was a homicide.

Oh nice one Cheeky!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:09:52 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
We are working on getting the images shown in court pixalated so we can have them live on our site #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:10:09 AM
Btw my basement is flooding...
Hope Jeff takes it to the next level with Dr. S.
 ::boxingjeffbaez::
Jeff was smirking as recess called.  I think he's ready. 

I wish I could take some of that rain from you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 11:10:29 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::
That Kronk is one sick beeturd ,huh?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:10:33 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Some jurors took notes when Spitz said he can't tell manner of death. Spitz is the 10th witness called by the defense.

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:10:41 AM
I can't seem to stay on line(dsl{)4 more then a few minutes at a time, then an hour or more goes by.

Did I miss anything?  I see mason is done.  Hope I stay on line....

 ::justice2NJ::
buckle up.. here comes Jeff after the break


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:10:43 AM
I can only hope that ASHTON has his game face on today and is ready to poke holes at what Spitz said on direct.

My hope is that he will show that Spitz is an old man that is set in his ways and is unreasonable to view andy other possibilities other than in his own mind. Obviously Spitz has a long career in forensic medicine and at this point thinks he is a legend in his own mind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 11:11:00 AM
unbelievable......one old fart who can't hear asking questions of another old fart who can't hear...can you rule out suicide?  I hope the jury took insult to that!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:11:08 AM
Btw my basement is flooding...
Hope Jeff takes it to the next level with Dr. S.
 ::boxingjeffbaez::
Jeff was smirking as recess called.  I think he's ready. 

I wish I could take some of that rain from you.

I hope he has a balance today of calm but ferocious! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:11:21 AM
Btw my basement is flooding...
Hope Jeff takes it to the next level with Dr. S.
 ::boxingjeffbaez::
Sorry about the flooding.  I'm chomping at the bit myself for the recess to be over so the beating can commence. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 11:11:26 AM
I can't seem to stay on line(dsl{)4 more then a few minutes at a time, then an hour or more goes by.

Did I miss anything?  I see mason is done.  Hope I stay on line....

 ::justice2NJ::
Restart your computer during the break


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:12:28 AM
I wish they would go into why he ruled out a suicide.  He would have to explain that even though there is really no scientfic evidence to back up that conclusion he came to it based on the surrounding information, facts, and common sense.  That is exactly how Dr. G came to her conclusion that it was a homicide.

Oh nice one Cheeky!!!

I think it is valid to question.  Have you ever heard about suspension of disbelief in regards to watching a movie.  I'm always questioning how realistic parts of movies are and my husband explained you have to kinda go with it.  I feel like this is what the defense is hoping for, that we will all suspend any disbelief and hold on common sense and reality to buy Casey's story.  Well we all know how far buying Casey's story got George and Cindy .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:13:00 AM
I can only hope that ASHTON has his game face on today and is ready to poke holes at what Spitz said on direct.

My hope is that he will show that Spitz is an old man that is set in his ways and is unreasonable to view andy other possibilities other than in his own mind. Obviously Spitz has a long career in forensic medicine and at this point thinks he is a legend in his own mind.

I think Spitz was offended that he was denied access to the autopsy.  That may be the perfect place for Jeff to poke.  Let Spitz have a meltdown on the stand over that one and anything else he says won't mean a thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:13:07 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
CSI Jen Welch had been in hallway this past week. She will likely be called back in to talk about how the skull was found ....

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 18, 2011, 11:13:11 AM
10:00am Sat, June 18, 2011
Court is in session.

Mr Mason wants the judge to tell the jury the reason why we have changed what we are doing.  The judge says you want to do it?  Mason says I will and then the judge says I will let Ashton tell them after you.  Judge says ok I will tell them.

The judge tells the jury that we are going to take another witness to accommodate him from being out of town. Dr. Rodriguez will be back Monday.

Next defense witness is Dr. Werner Spitz.

Mason is up..........

Dr Spitz is a MD, he is a Forensic Pathologist.  He went to medical school from 1946 -1950, Wow I wasn't born.  Then he went to Palestine before it became Israel.  He had LOTS AND LOTS of education, training and experience.  He is going on and on about doing autopsies and pathology.  Mason asks him if he remembers when he had his first appt in academia?  He finally says 1959.  In 1961 he left this country and worked at the University in Berlin, Germany.  Then he returned to the US.  It goes on and on and on..........He is in the 70's now....lol.  Drinking my tea as he goes through his life, he is telling stories about each place he worked.  All his appts are emeritus now.  He has basically outlived everyone he has ever known or worked with.  He is still licensed to practice medicine in this country and most countries in Europe. Mason is now reading all of his awards but he doesn't remember if he got them.  He has testified as an expert witness in all 50 states and in foreign countries.  In the last 7 years he has testified as an expert witness around 300 times.  He is declared an expert witness in Forensic Pathology........finally, lol.

Mason up.....

Do you remember how you got involved in the Caylee Anthony case?  He received a call from the Baez Law Firm to possibly consult with the firm.  What is the first thing you did?  I requested to attend the postmortem exam by Dr G. Did you request to be allowed to be in attendance?  Objection..side bar........side bar over.....Objection over ruled.  Yes, I requested to attend the autopsy by Dr G and wasn't allowed to.  Why did you want to?  It would of been useful to have seen the body at the first autopsy so I could see what Dr. G. saw.  I was given access to the remains at the Bryant Funeral Home in Orlando, I conducted the 2nd autopsy at that place.  Had Dr G finished the first autopsy report when you did yours?  I don't remember, I don't think so.  I came to Orlando with all kinds of equipment but I did not bring a saw but the skull had not been opened.  The profession dictates that the interior of the skull should be examined and it had not been done.  Mason is approaching the witness.  Dr. Spitz is told to open the bag and take the contents out, it is a skull, not of the deceased.  It is a real adult skull.  He brought it because it was necessary for the trier of fact to observe...Sustained.  Mason wants him to demonstrate opening the skull, it has already been sawed and he lifts the top portion off.  He then says you look into the interior of the skull.  Did you take photos of the autopsy you performed on Caylee Anthony?  I did, Mason is showing the witness, photos of the autopsy, Casey is hiding her face and not looking.  He is putting big photos of Caylee's skull up on an easel.  The witness is stepping down.  They are now looking at the photos of the skull.  What is remarkable about the contents we have before them?  This is what represents the base of the skull, the bottom of this.  This is the where the top was sawed off.  He is describing Caylee's skull.  In the base of the skull you see black flecks, they represent the last permanent result of decomposition.  The brain has dissolved.  Some of this sediment comes from the brain, some of it is dust, it's lost.  They indicate the position of this skull over the decomposition process.  The specks are left over after the entire brain is gone.  Those elements by gravity are left in the skull, it tells you the position of the skull.  What was the position of the skull?  It was on the left side down.  He is showing how the skull would of been left to decompose.  The witness is returning to the stand.  The photos are coming down but not before Casey tries to fake hiding her face again.  Did you review Dr G's report?  Yes.  What if any problems or deficiencies did you detect in her report?  I examined the entire skeleton, there were very little bones missing.  The skull had not been opened, so I opened it.  There are certain things that I did not find.  Like some discoloration of the skull where the ear is, the little protrusion from the back of the skull.  There were no fractures or no blows, the skull was intact, undamaged.  There was some damage to long bones from postmortem chewing from animals.  Casey is trying to cry.  The thigh bone was opened by the people that did the first autopsy. He thought they opened it to take bone marrow for the purpose of removing certain material in diagnoses but I learned that was not the case.  So, based on this determination the cause of death remains unknown for the people that did the first autopsy and for me as well.  Did you read Dr. G's report on duct tape?  I know there was some duct tape on the lower face, that were loosely on the face but there was not a shred of soft tissue, no skin, nothing, he didn't even need to use gloves.  It was a totally clean skull, no bacteria to contaminate him.  He could handle the remains of the 3 year old child without gloves.  The tape was not there when he got the remains.  The tape in pictures show it was somewhere near the left side, hanging on hair and hanging on roots of vegetation where it was excavated from under the surface of the ground, vegetation had grown into this material.  Plants had benefited from the minerals from decomp.  Dr G. says that duct tape was applied to the face prior to decomp, what is your idea of that?  I don't think so, the duct tape would of not stuck after the body decomposed, it was stuck to the roots and hair.  There was nothing on bone to suggest duct tape and nothing on the duct tape to suggest it was stuck to bone.  It is my opinion that this duct tape was placed to hold the lower jaw in place, because it would of fallen off.  He then picks up the skull and the lower jaw drops off.  Sir, would you expect there would be DNA if it had been placed on the face?  Yes, I would of expected it, if it had been attached to the face it would of had DNA.  I put duct tape on my arm and it pulled out hair from my arm with roots attached when I took it off. It is my opinion that the duct tape was not put on the face before it decomposed.  What does adipocere mean?  It is a stage in decomp that is when the tissue is broken down and becomes slimy, smelly, it is like soap.  It it especially fat that is similar to wet soap. How long does it take for adipocere to develop?  Side bar....side bar over.  Adipocere takes a warm environment and begin to develop within like 10 or 12 days.  Did you find any presence of adipocere on Caylee's remains?  No, it was clean of all soft tissue.  Did you read all of Dr. G's reports?  Yes.  Did you read any cause of death in this case?  You can rule out causes of death but you can not tell why this child died.  You can rule out some but not all.  Would you rule out suicide?  Yes.  Can you rule out accidental death?  No. What is the manner of death in this case?  There are 4 manners of cause of death, homicide, suicide, natural death and accidental.  Do you know what the manner of death is?  No.  How many autopsies have you done around the world? 60,000, I have been practicing forensic pathology for 56 years.  Mason is done.

Ten minute recess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 11:13:12 AM
Dr Spitz requested wanting to be part of the autopsy

He knows darn well that is NOT common practice, so does Colonel Crusty

I keep waiting for him to heil hitler.

Isn't he Jewish?

Yes, he's Israeli. I believe he's a sabra. They all have that accent.

Thanks Curly. I thought so. Which actually makes this hard for me. Because I have always had tremendous respect for Foresenic Pathologist and Forensic Anthropoligist who are Jewish and trained in Israel. Normally, they are very well trained. However, I guess anyone can 'sell out". So, I dunno. sigh
I thought he said he was trained here in the US?

No. Geneva, Switzerland and then Hadassa Hospital in Jerusalem. The came to Baltimore,MD where the streets are paved with gold.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:14:07 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
In pictures the skull was upright position. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:14:16 AM
I wish they would go into why he ruled out a suicide.  He would have to explain that even though there is really no scientfic evidence to back up that conclusion he came to it based on the surrounding information, facts, and common sense.  That is exactly how Dr. G came to her conclusion that it was a homicide.

Oh nice one Cheeky!!!

I think it is valid to question.  Have you ever heard about suspension of disbelief in regards to watching a movie.  I'm always questioning how realistic parts of movies are and my husband explained you have to kinda go with it.  I feel like this is what the defense is hoping for, that we will all suspend any disbelief and hold on common sense and reality to buy Casey's story.  Well we all know how far buying Casey's story got George and Cindy .

Oh Cheeky! We would get along just fine! My hubby and I are also ALWAYS discussing the suspension of belief in movies!!! As a fiction-writer, I consider this element often. Thank you for bringing this up! :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
No. Geneva, Switzerland and then Hadassa Hospital in Jerusalem. The came to Baltimore,MD where the streets are paved with gold.

haha! Thanks for the correction, Curly. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 11:15:34 AM
Spitz says: The duct tape was put on after decomposition.  ::MonkeyEek::

So duct tape is going to adhere to slimy, soapy stuff?  They must have had different duct tape where he is from. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:15:38 AM
TrialNotes Trial Notes
Spitz best witness for defense so far, IF he maintains composure on cross (became ext agitated when challenged n Spector case)

http://twitter.com/#!/TrialNotes (http://twitter.com/#!/TrialNotes)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:16:31 AM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
PHOTO: George and Cindy Anthony in court earlier today http://yfrog.com/kj4jarpj #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cadillac on June 18, 2011, 11:16:47 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
CSI Jen Welch had been in hallway this past week. She will likely be called back in to talk about how the skull was found ....

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)
Oh no - maybe she is in on it with Roy??  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:16:51 AM
TrialNotes Trial Notes
Spitz best witness for defense so far, IF he maintains composure on cross (became ext agitated when challenged n Spector case)

http://twitter.com/#!/TrialNotes (http://twitter.com/#!/TrialNotes)

Not even close, and he is about to get destroyed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:17:07 AM
unbelievable......one old fart who can't hear asking questions of another old fart who can't hear...can you rule out suicide?  I hope the jury took insult to that!!

Yeah.......... Dr. Frankenstein needs Baez as Egor rather than Mason. Besides, I like to watch the steam coming out of Baez's ears during cross. Mason's just going to blow out his hearing aide.   :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:18:11 AM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
George Anthony stood in hallway and Cindy came out and rubbed his back. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: DayOldDonuts on June 18, 2011, 11:18:18 AM

I think it is valid to question.  Have you ever heard about suspension of disbelief in regards to watching a movie.  I'm always questioning how realistic parts of movies are and my husband explained you have to kinda go with it.  I feel like this is what the defense is hoping for, that we will all suspend any disbelief and hold on common sense and reality to buy Casey's story.  Well we all know how far buying Casey's story got George and Cindy .

Maybe that explains the sideshow of experts.  Just when you think it can't get any weirder, it does.  It's so unreal that you get away from simple facts...like there is NO reason for there to be duct tape on a child!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 11:18:49 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And during a time while that entire neighborhood was swamped with camped out reporters and people. One minute trying to link duct tape to George, I dare say George would be able to sneak away with all the media attention to place duct tape on Caylee and next minute trying to blame Kronk for moving the body and what? He broke into George's shed to steal duct tape?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:18:53 AM
back live but they are at sidebar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:19:27 AM
 bobkealing bob kealing
by OSCaseyAnthony
#Ashton chomping at the bit to get started. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 11:19:49 AM
back live but they are at sidebar
Surprise, surprise!  DT knows what's coming!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:20:03 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And during a time while that entire neighborhood was swamped with camped out reporters and people. One minute trying to link duct tape to George, I dare say George would be able to sneak away with all the media attention to place duct tape on Caylee and next minute trying to blame Kronk for moving the body and what? He broke into George's shed to steal duct tape?

If George was willing to call the cops about a missing gas can, he'd probably call to report yet another break in.. even if only some tape was missing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 11:20:08 AM
Already at the side bar??? Come on...let JA loose!

Go get em' Jeff!  ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:20:59 AM
Baez appears to be whimpering at sidebar.   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 18, 2011, 11:21:15 AM
I see ICA is wrapping herself in that sweater again!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:21:17 AM
CJBP has taken the bench, here we go!!!! Get em Jeff!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Babybear on June 18, 2011, 11:21:20 AM
IMO Werner Spitz is willing to bend the truth a bit.  It is he who was solely responsible for Andrea Yates winning her appeal after she was convicted of first degree murder.  Spitz testified that Yeats had seen a documentary concerning women who drown their children which was shown a week or so before she killed her own children.  He said he knew this because he had participated in producing the documentary.  There was a slight problem.  The documentary had not been shown prior to Yeats drowning her children.  Her appeal was based and won on that and some other things, but it was that misrepresentation which got her a second trial at which she was found not guilty by reason of insanity. 

I have no respect for these "Hired guns" like Spitz and Lee.  Any story will do so long as the pay is good enough.  IMO we're seeing a demonstration of that principle right now.  After all, LKB was said to have told that so-called witness yesterday that there was no money now, but there would be money later.  Books? Movies? TV shows? TV series?

On that NBC show last night, most of which I didn't watch, Dateline, whatever, she appeared at the end sitting on a stool wearing some kind of orange sweater pulled over her butt.  This woman should not wear orange pulled over her butt.  In fact, she needs to call Nutrasystem or Weightwatchers at once.  I wonder while they were doing her face, they didn't tackle that ample rear with their liposuction apparatus.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 11:21:21 AM
I don't know with a mother like Casey "suicide" might be an option. What a dumb thing to ask him.
I have a headache this am and this is not helping.

I swear Dr Old Fart made them ask him that because of being sued and run over by a family where he called a homicide a suicide when he was a medical examiner..yeah..he's always been that good.

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:21:51 AM
What's the holdup folks?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 11:22:00 AM
Judge Perry knows what's coming  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::boxingcasey2::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Anna on June 18, 2011, 11:22:11 AM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz testified duct tape was placed over skull after decomposition.. And says he can't rule out accidental death

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Duct tape would not adhere to a soap-like surface.

And anythhing could have happened during a hurricane which the jurors know.  At least I hope they do.  #4 is a constant cause for concern.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 11:22:24 AM
Btw my basement is flooding...
Hope Jeff takes it to the next level with Dr. S.
 ::boxingjeffbaez::
Jeff was smirking as recess called.  I think he's ready. 

I wish I could take some of that rain from you.

Thanks, I have 2 pumps going atm..
I'm on....I hope i can stay on and see JEFF drop kick dr. S
 ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:22:39 AM
Jeff needs to not yell.  Not sure the jury would like him yelling at what appears to be a frail old man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 11:22:53 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And during a time while that entire neighborhood was swamped with camped out reporters and people. One minute trying to link duct tape to George, I dare say George would be able to sneak away with all the media attention to place duct tape on Caylee and next minute trying to blame Kronk for moving the body and what? He broke into George's shed to steal duct tape?
Remember the day/night George got all ticked off and took off walking down the street? What direction was he heading? and why did Lee have to haul azz and go get him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
JA starts cross examining Dr. Spitz...let the fun begin!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:23:29 AM
aha!

Question one slam dunk....yes other factors are part of the autopsy    Dr Spittoon says, yes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Anna on June 18, 2011, 11:23:35 AM
Baez appears to be whimpering at sidebar.   ::monkeywine2::

He thinks that's his desk now because he hangs out there so much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:24:24 AM
IMO Werner Spitz is willing to bend the truth a bit.  It is he who was solely responsible for Andrea Yates winning her appeal after she was convicted of first degree murder.  Spitz testified that Yeats had seen a documentary concerning women who drown their children which was shown a week or so before she killed her own children.  He said he knew this because he had participated in producing the documentary.  There was a slight problem.  The documentary had not been shown prior to Yeats drowning her children.  Her appeal was based and won on that and some other things, but it was that misrepresentation which got her a second trial at which she was found not guilty by reason of insanity. 

I have no respect for these "Hired guns" like Spitz and Lee.  Any story will do so long as the pay is good enough.  IMO we're seeing a demonstration of that principle right now.  After all, LKB was said to have told that so-called witness yesterday that there was no money now, but there would be money later.  Books? Movies? TV shows? TV series?

On that NBC show last night, most of which I didn't watch, Dateline, whatever, she appeared at the end sitting on a stool wearing some kind of orange sweater pulled over her butt.  This woman should not wear orange pulled over her butt.  In fact, she needs to call Nutrasystem or Weightwatchers at once.  I wonder while they were doing her face, they didn't tackle that ample rear with their liposuction apparatus.
Babybear.. it was Park Dietz who testified incorrectly, wasnt it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:24:48 AM
Dr  who did you talk to?

Of course he cant recall what he asked - press him Ashton


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:24:51 AM
Crossing my fingers this goes well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:25:08 AM
Ashton is going to expose his senility.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 11:25:32 AM
Right after sidebar  ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingcasey2::

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kccc.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:25:33 AM
Oh dear God, it's going to be another decimation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:25:41 AM
"the people in the home.. i can't remember who they are"..  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:25:45 AM
So Dr Spittoon talked to Mason & "people in the home."

"I dont remember who those people were"   are you flippin kidding me


Which police did you speak to...he couldnt say    ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 18, 2011, 11:26:15 AM
I see ICA is wrapping herself in that sweater again!
Maybe they were showing another day in court cause she doesn't have it on now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 11:26:17 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And during a time while that entire neighborhood was swamped with camped out reporters and people. One minute trying to link duct tape to George, I dare say George would be able to sneak away with all the media attention to place duct tape on Caylee and next minute trying to blame Kronk for moving the body and what? He broke into George's shed to steal duct tape?
Remember the day/night George got all ticked off and took off walking down the street? What direction was he heading? and why did Lee have to haul azz and go get him?

Who knows with that bunch but I don't think George had anything to do with the death of Caylee, I think Casey did this all by herself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:26:29 AM
Ashton is going to expose his senility.  

He's not senile, he's greedy & ego driven


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:27:10 AM
OMG! The puzzle is FITTING WELL NOW! Thank you Dr. Frankenstein!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
Ah yes, Dr Spittoon it does have to all fit together...you didnt do that


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 11:27:17 AM
Oh dear God, it's going to be another decimation.

I have a good nose... I smell MELTDOWN coming too. Go Jeff!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:27:34 AM
Bravo Ashton, tell him who is the victim in this case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 11:27:36 AM
Casey is looking like she is trying to muster up some tears now with this skull being shown..boo to the whooo...fake biotch
maybe she should have a siezure??  ::MonkeyHaHa::
faker
A Mutha Faker...
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:27:59 AM
That was funny that Ashton told the Doctor what the victims name is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:28:04 AM
OMG, Jeff had to remind him who Caylee was.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:28:04 AM
Dr Spittoon talks about she allegedly went with a babysitter....helllo the defense conceded that was a lie!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:28:15 AM
Oh dear God, it's going to be another decimation.

I have a good nose... I smell MELTDOWN coming too. Go Jeff!
Almost uncomfortable to watch this.  Witness has to effing clue what he's talking about. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 11:28:22 AM
Oh dear God, it's going to be another decimation.

I have a good nose... I smell MELTDOWN coming too. Go Jeff!
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:28:31 AM
Ashton is going to expose his senility.  

He's not senile, he's greedy & ego driven

Spitz got info from the Defense adn does not remember what police reports he looked at.

Does not know of facts he had of Caylee.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 11:28:48 AM
Mason wasn't even involved in the case until long after the autopsy.....yet Spitz says he talked to Mason to get info to help render is opinion.   WTF???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 11:28:55 AM
aha!

Question one slam dunk....yes other factors are part of the autopsy    Dr Spittoon says, yes
Can we all say (http://i51.tinypic.com/qodu0p.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:29:22 AM
Spittoon is getting uppidity


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:29:28 AM
Ashton is going to expose his senility.  

He's not senile, he's greedy & ego driven

Spitz got info from the Defense adn does not remember what police reports he looked at.

Does not know of facts he had of Caylee.  ::MonkeyEek::


He doesn't know what he knew but he knows he knew what Dr. G knew!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:29:42 AM
Mason wasn't even involved in the case until long after the autopsy.....yet Spitz says he talked to Mason to get info to help render is opinion.   WTF???
I thought the same.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:29:42 AM
Mason wasn't even involved in the case until long after the autopsy.....yet Spitz says he talked to Mason to get info to help render is opinion.   WTF???

Interesting right?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:29:47 AM
Oh dear God, it's going to be another decimation.

I have a good nose... I smell MELTDOWN coming too. Go Jeff!
Almost uncomfortable to watch this.  Witness has to effing clue what he's talking about. 

And the meltdown starts of daring to question him. DONT YOU KNOW WHO I AM.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 11:29:51 AM
Mason wasn't even involved in the case until long after the autopsy.....yet Spitz says he talked to Mason to get info to help render is opinion.   WTF???

I know..lying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 11:30:32 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And during a time while that entire neighborhood was swamped with camped out reporters and people. One minute trying to link duct tape to George, I dare say George would be able to sneak away with all the media attention to place duct tape on Caylee and next minute trying to blame Kronk for moving the body and what? He broke into George's shed to steal duct tape?
Remember the day/night George got all ticked off and took off walking down the street? What direction was he heading? and why did Lee have to haul azz and go get him?

Who knows with that bunch but I don't think George had anything to do with the death of Caylee, I think Casey did this all by herself.
Sorry, my innuendo should have been more clear. I'm implying that George knew where Caylee's body was. I never have believed that Cindy or George had anything to do with her death....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:30:37 AM
Ashton: Who did you ask about circumstances outside of the medical exam?

Spitz: Baez, Mason, Ants, police reports.

Ashton: Which police reports?

Spitz: Uh, Uh, Uh,........ you have to evaluate the entirity of the picture.

Ashton: What is your understanding of events the last time she was seen alive?

Spitz: I don't know I had any facts when she was alive.

Ashton: Would you not agree that Dr. G had more info than you upon reaching her conclusions?

Spitz: I read her report. I was aware of what she was.

Ashton: What did she say?

Spitz: I don't recall. 



Geeeezzzzzzzzz........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 11:30:51 AM
aha!

Question one slam dunk....yes other factors are part of the autopsy    Dr Spittoon says, yes
Can we all say (http://i51.tinypic.com/qodu0p.jpg)

And Casey is twitching her face, lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:31:02 AM
When Dr Spitz was retained by the defense to do an autopsy he was never told of any accidental drowning of Caylee.

Needless to say it was a made up scenario by the defense well after the fact.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:31:21 AM
"at the very least read the police reports"

"But you just told us that you dont remember any of the facts of this case"

Dr Spittoon is now backtracking...PS ahole the VICTIM is CAYLEE not CASEY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 11:31:29 AM
Mason wasn't even involved in the case until long after the autopsy.....yet Spitz says he talked to Mason to get info to help render is opinion.   WTF???

I know..can't Jeff ask this witness be struck because e is obviously lying..at best confused....He should not be allowed to sit up there and lie..if he can't remember he should just say that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:31:31 AM
When did Casey disappear? Was she with Roy K. too?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 11:31:37 AM
Uhm, casey is still alive..she's right there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 11:31:48 AM
Dr Spittoon talks about she allegedly went with a babysitter....helllo the defense conceded that was a lie!!!!!

 ::rhino::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:31:50 AM
He only recalls the facts that he considered important.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:32:03 AM
"the people in the home.. i can't remember who they are"..  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Bet he spoke to the Yorkies.
This is so sad.  Like I said last night..he should be home praying for forgiveness for all his lies & preparing to meet his maker.

 :smt117


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:32:13 AM
When Dr Spitz was retained by the defense to do an autopsy he was never told of any accidental drowning of Caylee.

Needless to say it was a made up scenario by the defense well after the fact.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 18, 2011, 11:32:15 AM
Oh my! He said Casey Anthony when she disappeared.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
Ashton: Who did you ask about circumstances outside of the medical exam?

Spitz: Baez, Mason, Ants, police reports.

Ashton: Which police reports?

Spitz: Uh, Uh, Uh,........ you have to evaluate the entirity of the picture.

Ashton: What is your understanding of events the last time she was seen alive?

Spitz: I don't know I had any facts when she was alive.

Ashton: Would you not agree that Dr. G had more info than you upon reaching her conclusions?

Spitz: I read her report. I was aware of what she was.

Ashton: What did she say?

Spitz: I don't recall. 



Geeeezzzzzzzzz........

He just said when Casey anthony disappeared.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:32:42 AM
Wow, just by seeing a pool that led him to believe the possibility of drowning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 11:32:57 AM
Oh dear god, so someone came along and put duct tape on an already decomposed body as it was laying there in the swamp/dirt along side the road  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And during a time while that entire neighborhood was swamped with camped out reporters and people. One minute trying to link duct tape to George, I dare say George would be able to sneak away with all the media attention to place duct tape on Caylee and next minute trying to blame Kronk for moving the body and what? He broke into George's shed to steal duct tape?
Remember the day/night George got all ticked off and took off walking down the street? What direction was he heading? and why did Lee have to haul azz and go get him?

Who knows with that bunch but I don't think George had anything to do with the death of Caylee, I think Casey did this all by herself.
Sorry, my innuendo should have been more clear. I'm implying that George knew where Caylee's body was. I never have believed that Cindy or George had anything to do with her death....

No problem   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
Ahhhhhh, he saw a pool at the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
I understand that each piece of evidence should stand alone and that is what the dufense is trying...now Jeff just needs to put it all together as it should be.

84 google searches for chloroform.
unusually high chloroform levels in trunk of car.
Triple duct taped covering nose and mouth.
accused not reporting child missing for 31 days while claiming she was kidnapped.
etc., etc., etc.,...

This guy is just neglecting to go on with the rest of the info.  and imo he is doing it with purpose because it suits his needs for some reason.  not sure what his pay off is.  JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:33:22 AM
Yes, doctor what was significant...tell us precisely what you felt was significant

His answer was that she was missing for a month, that's not even the 100th fraction of it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:34:03 AM
Q. Ashton: Asked about what protocol was violated.

Spitz: Rambling, now he is just making stuff up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:34:03 AM
Ahhhhhh, he saw a pool at the house.
and uh we opened the head of ah uh Casey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 11:34:10 AM
So he thinks a pool in the house is significant. An accidental drowning that went unreported, even when the child was found to be missing. Right. Now I understand. THAT YOU ARE A DEFENSE TOOL, SPITZ!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:34:13 AM
It is NOT the protocol for the head to be split, no no no


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:34:15 AM
Ahhhhhh, he saw a pool at the house.
actually, it sounded like he said IN the house.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NickandNora on June 18, 2011, 11:34:18 AM
aha!

Question one slam dunk....yes other factors are part of the autopsy    Dr Spittoon says, yes
Can we all say (http://i51.tinypic.com/qodu0p.jpg)

And Casey is twitching her face, lol.

Lol.

Darn, I have to leave. Well at least I got to watch Baez pee his pants earlier today.  ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:34:22 AM
Yes, doctor what was significant...tell us precisely what you felt was significant

His answer was that she was missing for a month, that's not even the 100th fraction of it
Don't forget he saw the pool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:34:39 AM
He cant answer the questions.... this is pathetic.. what brain? what meninges? they are gone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:34:50 AM
Wow, just by seeing a pool that led him to believe the possibility of drowning.

Yeah. I saw bathtub. Maybe she drowned there? I saw an electrical outlet...maybe, well...you get it! :O

P.S. I answered in the breakroom :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
So he thinks a pool in the house is significant. An accidental drowning that went unreported, even when the child was found to be missing. Right. Now I understand. THAT YOU ARE A DEFENSE TOOL, SPITZ!

He wasnt even told about a pool, nor did he consider it because he was right there at the crime scene with the rest of them with that staged crap the Saturday after the remains were found but Caylee had not been identified & he said NOTHING of a pool


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:35:13 AM
What did opening the head tell them? What evidence was found in doing that? None.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 11:35:22 AM
So why don't they open up each and every bone?  Same thing!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:35:36 AM
Dr Spittoon is avoiding the question & bolstering bunk and bull


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:35:44 AM
NEWSLFLASH! No basements where they live below sea-level Dr. Frankenstein!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 11:35:47 AM
Would someone please tell the good doctor that when Caylee was found there was NO TISSUE..that includes brain tissue..so there was no reason to open the head because it was empty.

He is making me very angry ..I hope the jury can see through this fraud.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 11:35:53 AM
Caylee's body wasn't a complete structure, dingbat--just bones left. No brain tissue. Nada.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:36:05 AM
He is going to flip out any minute  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:36:10 AM
THERE IS NO PUBLICATION that it is protocol

Dr Spittoon is getting combative, therefore Ashton knock him out!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:36:22 AM
now he admits there is no published protocol.. or at least he doesn't recall ever seeing one.. just that he was trained in a certain way, A MILLION YEARS AGO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:36:22 AM
Spitz: There is no protocol published but he says protocol was violated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 11:36:30 AM
Wow, just by seeing a pool that led him to believe the possibility of drowning.

Yeah. I saw bathtub. Maybe she drowned there? I saw an electrical outlet...maybe, well...you get it! :O

P.S. I answered in the breakroom :)

Yep, I was thinking the same thing.  All sorts of things in the house that could cause the death of a two year old. (Including her excuse for a mother Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:37:04 AM
Here comes the POMPASS ass attitude that he has coming out.

Ashton is going to look like the victim here.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
THERE IS NO PUBLICATION that it is protocol

Dr Spittoon is getting combative, therefore Ashton knock him out!

He just admitted he is out of the mainstream of forensics.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:37:20 AM
He is going to flip out any minute  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Casey is trying not to laugh.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:37:23 AM
If it was every forensic expert would say that the defense would have had a parade of them to confirm it

Dr Spittoon is downright combative


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 11:37:24 AM
Spitz is getting agitated...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:37:25 AM
Jawdropping:

Spitz:  Sorry for the answer, but you provoked it!

Holy sheet, this guy is a problem for the defense! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
KC thinks that is funny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 11:37:38 AM
NEWSLFLASH! No basements where they live below sea-level Dr. Frankenstein!

i dont have a basement do i not have a complete house


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:37:46 AM
His little lecture about the head being part of the body and the whole body should be examined should come back and bite him.

The same point can be made about knowledge of all the circumstances.

He's having a meltdown.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:37:50 AM
He is going to flip out any minute  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Casey is trying not to laugh.

Shes too stupid to realize that he is sending her to the gurney...stupid girl  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:37:59 AM
Wow, just by seeing a pool that led him to believe the possibility of drowning.

Yeah. I saw bathtub. Maybe she drowned there? I saw an electrical outlet...maybe, well...you get it! :O

P.S. I answered in the breakroom :)

Yep, I was thinking the same thing.  All sorts of things in the house that could cause the death of a two year old. (Including her excuse for a mother Casey)

Exactly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
KC thinks that is funny.
I saw that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:38:14 AM
If the experts would just stick with what they believed and drop the rest of the agenda they would be more believable. 

This guy is a mess. I was open minded but he is awful.  His complete autopsy of the head told them nothing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:38:21 AM
Jawdropping:

Spitz:  Sorry for the answer, but you provoked it!

Holy sheet, this guy is a problem for the defense! 

Ashton provoked NOTHING


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 11:38:24 AM
Spitz: There is no protocol published but he says protocol was violated.


...but he thinks he wrote it... but he can't cite it. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:38:40 AM
NEWSLFLASH! No basements where they live below sea-level Dr. Frankenstein!

i dont have a basement do i not have a complete house

Apparently not :/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:38:53 AM
Here comes the POMPASS ass attitude that he has coming out.

Ashton is going to look like the victim here.

Spitz going on a rant ... DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM ... HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME.

Dude, you ain't the only person who has ever done an autopsy before.

He is doing what I thought, showing just how unreasonable he is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:39:03 AM
Another masterful cross by Ashton.  He is a genius.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:39:18 AM
Get em Ashton!!!!

NO you do not have to open the skull


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 11:39:47 AM
UNBELIEVABLE!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:39:53 AM
Another masterful cross by Ashton.  He is a genius.  

He should be revered in all law schools as the most masterful cross examiner of our times


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: numbersgirl on June 18, 2011, 11:40:06 AM
Go Jeff!

Spitz says he's done more than 60,000 autopsies in his 56 years.  That's more than 2.9 per day, every day for 56 years.  I call bs   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:40:18 AM
throw the book at em Gooooo Ashton!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:40:19 AM
If the experts would just stick with what they believed and drop the rest of the agenda they would be more believable. 

This guy is a mess. I was open minded but he is awful.  His complete autopsy of the head told them nothing.

Once again, I am right there with you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 11:40:21 AM
I hope Dr. Spitz brought another pair of depends!  ::MonkeyShocked:: What is that smell?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:40:23 AM
Dr Werner Spitz has a God Complex now, doesn't he?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 11:40:23 AM
He's throwing his own book at him, Go Jeff!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:40:33 AM
Here comes the POMPASS ass attitude that he has coming out.

Ashton is going to look like the victim here.

Spitz going on a rant ... DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM ... HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME.

Dude, you ain't the only person who has ever done an autopsy before.

He is doing what I thought, showing just how unreasonable he is.

He got Spits to admit that he has been out of the mainstream for year.  Awesome.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
Oh, SNAP!  Jeff is going to slam Spitz with his own text book.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:41:02 AM
Another masterful cross by Ashton.  He is a genius.  
I so agree..and it is just starting  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:41:09 AM
DONE!  Answer the question & stop arguing quackadoodle


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:41:14 AM
Go Jeff!

Spitz says he's done more than 60,000 autopsies in his 56 years.  That's more than 2.9 per day, every day for 56 years.  I call bs   ::MonkeyNoNo::
yeah that is completely and total insanity


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:41:21 AM
He drew a conclusion about the entire autopsy based on the fact he didn't agree with one thing that was not done.  He also thought that drowning was a possibility based on the house having a pool YET he cannot come to the conclusion that a 2 year old double bagged in the woods was murdered.  He just can't go there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 11:41:21 AM
NEWSLFLASH! No basements where they live below sea-level Dr. Frankenstein!

i dont have a basement do i not have a complete house

Apparently not :/

LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:41:33 AM
Jeff, lower your voice. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:42:07 AM
Mason STFU, plain and simple   OVERRULED


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 11:42:16 AM
he said he spoke to some people he cant remember who at the A's home geez do you think he got good info from those freaks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 11:42:18 AM
Keeps saying body and head, unfortunately, Caylee's body had decomposed and been eaten by animals and her little bones strewn all over the place, her skeleton had to be put back together like a puzzle never finding all her bones, this all due to her mother's evil ways, the wench that he's there testifying for, makes me sick, no head to be opened, just a skull.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:42:23 AM
OK. What effect will his meltdown have on the jury? It's going to happen so I was just wondering.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 11:42:25 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

BabyWatson BabyWatson
 by JimLichtenstein@
@JimLichtenstein @mrmsmom Pipitone said rule of sequestration violation was Werner Spitz, interview slamming Dr. G's examination.
4 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:42:31 AM
What injury would he expect to find in opening the head?  You could see there were no skull fractures w/o opening it.  He didn't expect to find a brain, right?  So what could opening the head actually have told him about an injury?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:42:43 AM
Jeff, lower your voice. 

Dr Spittoon opened the door to being combative, no need to go gentle on this combative witness


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:42:56 AM
Jeff, lower your voice. 
he is getting very agitated.. emotional, i would say. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

BabyWatson BabyWatson
 by JimLichtenstein@
@JimLichtenstein @mrmsmom Pipitone said rule of sequestration violation was Werner Spitz, interview slamming Dr. G's examination.
4 minutes ago

Ohhhhhhh!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 11:43:16 AM
Don't think this witness will make it to 1:00


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 11:44:06 AM
NEWSLFLASH! No basements where they live below sea-level Dr. Frankenstein!

i dont have a basement do i not have a complete house

Apparently not :/

LOL


LOL, I've never had a basement or a dining room, guess I've lived in some incomplete homes  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:44:17 AM
Don't think this witness will make it to 1:00

yeah his head may explode. Temper


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:44:23 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

BabyWatson BabyWatson
 by JimLichtenstein@
@JimLichtenstein @mrmsmom Pipitone said rule of sequestration violation was Werner Spitz, interview slamming Dr. G's examination.
4 minutes ago

Ohhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
?? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:44:25 AM
I hope the court has a defibrillator with the first aide equipment. Cindy's there...... she'd know how to use it on Grumpy Old Man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 11:44:29 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

BabyWatson BabyWatson
 by JimLichtenstein@
@JimLichtenstein @mrmsmom Pipitone said rule of sequestration violation was Werner Spitz, interview slamming Dr. G's examination.
4 minutes ago

Interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:44:30 AM
Don't think this witness will make it to 1:00
Jeff is doing a masterful job of walking the line of provoking the witness without seeming like he's provoking him.  lol  This dude doesn't want his authoritative opinions questioned.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:44:49 AM
Don't think this witness will make it to 1:00

His testimony is already discredited, the rest will just be icing on the cake....Caylee is sitting on Ashton's shoulder with her wings clapping


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 11:45:01 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

BabyWatson BabyWatson
 by JimLichtenstein@
@JimLichtenstein @mrmsmom Pipitone said rule of sequestration violation was Werner Spitz, interview slamming Dr. G's examination.
4 minutes ago

Thank you Tupelo..I figured it had to do with a defense witness..I quietly thought to me self it would be this old fool who broke the rule of sequestration..why the heck are they letting him testify then?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:45:03 AM
He isn't smart enough to read another state protocol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:45:12 AM
Casey is trying really hard to control her laughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
when spitzer said who wrote it i was waiting for Ashton to say you did....

what a waste of time today


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:45:25 AM
What injury would he expect to find in opening the head?  You could see there were no skull fractures w/o opening it.  He didn't expect to find a brain, right?  So what could opening the head actually have told him about an injury?
The doc made it up assuming he is the expert.. no one opens the skull for autopsy except to access the brain


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 11:45:31 AM
I have to open the head to find some things. Thank you, Dr. Spitz... see you next visit. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 18, 2011, 11:45:51 AM
Why could Jeff not just ask him what might be found inside a skeletalized scull that could lead to cause of death?  Would that not cut the crap?

And do any of you think there could be anything inside a scull like that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:45:57 AM
What injury would he expect to find in opening the head?  You could see there were no skull fractures w/o opening it.  He didn't expect to find a brain, right?  So what could opening the head actually have told him about an injury?

Did you hear Ashton slip in the question about opening the chest?  What he was getting at was...what chest?  same as why do you have to open the skull?  What brain.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:46:05 AM
Don't think this witness will make it to 1:00

I want him done today. I don't want him to have time to regroup.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:46:13 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

BabyWatson BabyWatson
 by JimLichtenstein@
@JimLichtenstein @mrmsmom Pipitone said rule of sequestration violation was Werner Spitz, interview slamming Dr. G's examination.
4 minutes ago

Ohhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
?? 

Yes, I don't understand. Any monkey able to explain? Thank you kindly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 18, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
Quote
His testimony is already discredited, the rest will just be icing on the cake....Caylee is sitting on Ashton's shoulder with her wings clapping
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 11:46:41 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

BabyWatson BabyWatson
 by JimLichtenstein@
@JimLichtenstein @mrmsmom Pipitone said rule of sequestration violation was Werner Spitz, interview slamming Dr. G's examination.
4 minutes ago

Ohhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
?? 

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28244835/detail.html ::HelloKitty:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:46:53 AM
No written protocol, he's not aware of any protocol written in over 56 yrs....BS meter went off the chart, in fact it broke


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:47:00 AM
If he's NOT aware of a protocol, how can he sit there and testify to a court of law, that there IS a protocol? WTF  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
I can't tell you where the protocol is, I can only assure you there is one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:47:34 AM
Why does he keep talking about the "high profile nature" of this case? 

Doesn't everyone deserve a stellar autopsy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 11:47:44 AM
If the experts would just stick with what they believed and drop the rest of the agenda they would be more believable. 

This guy is a mess. I was open minded but he is awful.  His complete autopsy of the head told them nothing.
It tells him the skull was on its side at one time. Uh, sooo... huh? It was also in a couple trash bags at one time.

And huh? what does national profile have to do with protocol? Even the least recognized case deserves the same diligence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:47:45 AM
Protocol is based on national significance and high profile?

What?

Protocol means what it says. It is to be followed all the time, whether high or low profile.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:47:54 AM
Casey is loving it that these people think that she is important.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 11:48:03 AM

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28244835/detail.html ::HelloKitty:: 

 ::HelloKitty::  Thanks Trimm!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 11:48:08 AM
Is this another witness against the DP?  Sure sounding like that may be his only motivation for being here IMO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:48:09 AM
BAM!    that is a significant fact to you in this case (high profile) Ashton to Spittoon

OMG Brilliant!!!!   And Spittoon is stupid enough to talk about everyone commenting in the media, ps including him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:48:14 AM
BEcause this case has been on media the skull should've been opened.  What about those cases of missing children that don't get media attention.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:48:18 AM


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28244835/detail.html ::HelloKitty:: 

Thanks, Trimm!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 11:48:25 AM
It was easy to see into Caylee's skull without sawing it open.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:48:28 AM
Protocol is based on national significance and high profile?

What?

Protocol means what it says. It is to be followed all the time, whether high or low profile.

And usually can be found in the written form somewhere


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:48:54 AM
"How many media interviews have you given since you were hired?"


BOOM

Dr Spitz just lied, its more than two


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:49:03 AM
Why does he keep talking about the "high profile nature" of this case? 

Doesn't everyone deserve a stellar autopsy?

Sorry for my french, not when you are a media whore and want attention in a high profile case when your career is in its twilight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:49:12 AM
Oh, snap...how many media interviews


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:49:24 AM
THIS VERY WEEK out of Detriot...yup that is the violation!!!


You go Jeff, you go


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:49:57 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

BabyWatson BabyWatson
 by JimLichtenstein@
@JimLichtenstein @mrmsmom Pipitone said rule of sequestration violation was Werner Spitz, interview slamming Dr. G's examination.
4 minutes ago

Ohhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
?? 

Yes, I don't understand. Any monkey able to explain? Thank you kindly!

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/197298/250/Anthony-star-witness-may-testify-today-

This is what I think is the issue. His senility shows here too.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 11:50:12 AM
From all I have read in my research throughout the years, the top of the skull is 'usually' sawed off to remove the brain and weigh it/examine it. In this case, there was no brain to examine...nothing but bone. So, no reason to remove the top of the skull. I'd explain further, but don't want to ruin anyones lunch  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:50:19 AM
THIS VERY WEEK out of Detriot...yup that is the violation!!!


You go Jeff, you go

Ahh so if you're going to testify, you cannot give an interview.. is that the law? (Just to make myself clear)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 11:50:23 AM
Casey is trying really hard to control her laughter.

Yep and she covered her mouth while she laughed when Jeff asked the doc couldn't he just look up on the hole in the bottom of the skull to see inside.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 11:50:34 AM
Oh go Jeff..show he is just one more defense media whore...the old wind bag..was just on TV last week talking about this case.

I say get him off the stand and tell the jury to not pay attention to anything he said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:50:35 AM
Oh, snap...how many media interviews

he lied   NO Dr Spittoon you slammed Dr G - Tony Pipitone interview!!!!!    Female reporter in Detroit THIS WEEK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:50:37 AM
I hope they get back to the evidence soon.  I don't want the jury to get bored before they finish with the evidence.  This is all great but I don't want the stuff of substance to get by


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:51:00 AM
SPITZ has to be coming across as a beligerant, set in stone, old man who is incapable of flexibility or considering any alternative.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 11:51:09 AM
Why does he keep talking about the "high profile nature" of this case? 

Doesn't everyone deserve a stellar autopsy?

Sorry for my french, not when you are a media whore and want attention in a high profile case when your career is in its twilight.

 ::rhino::  No doubt.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:51:18 AM
wow I heard crickets there for a few minutes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:51:36 AM
LMAO he doesn't know what he talked about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:51:52 AM
SPITZ has to be coming across as a beligerant, set in stone, old man who is incapable of flexibility or considering any alternative.

He is def. displaying a Casey like mentality.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 18, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
I don't know why Casey is so amused. Does she not realize this isn good for her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:52:03 AM
Ashton has totally destroyed this fool


48 hours!!   Yes, he was featured.   Spittoon doesnt remember...play the video Jeff


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 11:52:23 AM
LMAO he doesn't know what he talked about.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:52:26 AM
Oh, Jeff has him now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:52:32 AM
Ashton  Phil Spector, OJ, Menendez no


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 11:52:47 AM
BAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 11:52:54 AM
THIS VERY WEEK out of Detriot...yup that is the violation!!!


You go Jeff, you go

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/28239316/detail.html
Metro Detroit ME To Testify Friday In Casey Anthony Trial
ME Says Caylee Anthony Could Have Drowned
POSTED: Tuesday, June 14, 2011
UPDATED: 6:40 am EDT June 17, 2011


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:53:03 AM
Ashton  Phil Spector, OJ, Menendez no

all those innocent guys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 11:53:09 AM
Ashton has totally destroyed this fool


48 hours!!   Yes, he was featured.   Spittoon doesnt remember...play the video Jeff

How is this not impeachable? He is lying on the witness stand?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:53:12 AM
Casey goes to "I cant look" mode....shes pissed by the way


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 11:53:35 AM
Jeff could probably stop at any time , this guys a goner


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:53:38 AM
he broke the skull,   Dr Spittoon doesnt know that he broke it   hahahaha


OMG this was too easy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:53:51 AM
he doesn't know if he broke the skull....  what the hell...  he broke Caylee's skull?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:53:58 AM
Dr Spittoon did NO chemical tests


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:54:01 AM
OH NO - there is a big crack in the skull and yet he doesn't know he did that?  then wouldn't that be a skull fracture which he testified there weren't any?  WOW  - he is bad, bad, bad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:54:05 AM
Ashton has totally destroyed this fool


48 hours!!   Yes, he was featured.   Spittoon doesnt remember...play the video Jeff

How is this not impeachable? He is lying on the witness stand?

Once again, I am wondering the same thing???????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
Oh, Jeff has him now.

By the balls... and Jeff didn't even have to wear gloves or an apron. ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 18, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
The Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23

Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”


 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 18, 2011, 11:54:24 AM
Quote
Yep and she covered her mouth while she laughed when Jeff asked the doc couldn't he just look up on the hole in the bottom of the skull to see inside.

How can you effing laugh about that especially when it's your CHILD??!!! Oh wow, my blood pressure


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
he can't remember who he gave it to, egads


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:54:26 AM
Jeff could probably stop at any time , this guys a goner


True, but for our personal satisfaction finish him off  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 11:54:45 AM
If he didnt put the crack in the skull then who did


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:54:46 AM
Jeff could probably stop at any time , this guys a goner

Too bad Casey doesn't realize she is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:54:51 AM
Ashton needs to ask him if he considered that the remains were in flooded water for months


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 11:55:04 AM
Protocol is based on national significance and high profile?

What?

Protocol means what it says. It is to be followed all the time, whether high or low profile.
I am cracking up at this Dr. lack of remembering ANYTHING! (http://i53.tinypic.com/14bomlf.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:55:15 AM
Oh, Jeff has him now.

By the balls... and Jeff didn't even have to wear gloves or an apron. ::justice2NJ::

OMG! ROTFL!! Thank you Carpe!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:55:30 AM
How can there be "brain dust" left after 6 months exposed to the elements and when Caylee's bone's were in dirt, water, and ravaged by animals?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:55:38 AM
If he didnt put the crack in the skull then who did

Kronk, of course!   Funny thing is Dr Spittoon is the one getting "kronked"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:55:39 AM
"please believe me........"    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:55:45 AM
I must be sick b/c this is painful yet I am enjoying it so much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 11:56:00 AM
Is this Paulus van der Sloot on the stand>..?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:56:10 AM
Dr Spittoon did NO chemical tests
And yet he testified to Mumbles that it was part of the brain.  How did he know this? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 11:56:29 AM
Now he's begging to be believed!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
Um, if this is a routine finding, buddy, then you can't make any assumption on cause of death, manner of death, or probably anything else for that matter.  it sounds exactly like what i said earlier.. that Caylee must have been on her left side during much of her decomposition. So how is this big news???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 11:56:51 AM
Jeff could probably stop at any time , this guys a goner


True, but for our personal satisfaction finish him off  ::MonkeyWink::
so much more to go...run the clock to 1 pm so the defense cant rehab him (?) until Monday and the jury gets to chew on the cross exam


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cece5300 on June 18, 2011, 11:57:07 AM
I feel like we're playing mortal combat. FINISH HIM Jeff!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 11:57:16 AM
If he didnt put the crack in the skull then who did

Kronk and George. They're everywhere!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 18, 2011, 11:57:21 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  Just got online...whew...I'm so far behind.

Is it going well for the defense or the prosectuion?  TIA




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:57:51 AM
Jeff could probably stop at any time , this guys a goner


True, but for our personal satisfaction finish him off  ::MonkeyWink::
so much more to go...run the clock to 1 pm so the defense cant rehab him (?) until Monday and the jury gets to chew on the cross exam
Yep.  Don't let the defense get another chance with him until Monday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:58:00 AM
Thank you Ashton!   Finally the flooded water


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 11:58:20 AM
Jeff could probably stop at any time , this guys a goner


True, but for our personal satisfaction finish him off  ::MonkeyWink::
That's just plain mean, but okay I'll get more coffee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 11:58:36 AM
This guy is just so arrogant!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:58:37 AM
If he didnt put the crack in the skull then who did

Kronk and George. They're everywhere!

Yeah missing that big break in the skull is a pretty big omission, no?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 11:58:43 AM
Dr. God doesn't need to research.  He is God.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
Jeff could probably stop at any time , this guys a goner


True, but for our personal satisfaction finish him off  ::MonkeyWink::
so much more to go...run the clock to 1 pm so the defense cant rehab him (?) until Monday and the jury gets to chew on the cross exam
Yep.  Don't let the defense get another chance with him until Monday.

He'd have to stay on cross for another hour


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:58:49 AM
Crikey!  He didn't do an analysis on the decomposing brain matter.  Mother of God.  He's totally cooked.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 11:58:51 AM
Good morning, monkeys!  Just got online...whew...I'm so far behind.

Is it going well for the defense or the prosectuion?  TIA



You better watch the video once it's up loaded!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:59:22 AM
This guy is just so arrogant!

Off the charts, it is a God complex with him....no we dont have to believe you quackadoodle


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 11:59:44 AM
Well until someone tells me that those specks are dirt, I'm going with it is brain.  no need to check. nope. That big crack, wasn't me, nope.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 11:59:55 AM
"So-called saline"? Oh really.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 11:59:58 AM
You use a pen!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:00:36 PM
Dr.  Spitz:

This is not the first skull I've examined.  As a matter of fact, I was able to solve a murder case. . .



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:00:36 PM
I dont care if you examined 1000's of skulls, you are lying about THIS ONE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:00:49 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
No reaction. “@hockeymomof5: @JimLichtenstein What is the juror's reaction to this back and forth with Spitz?”
9 minutes ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:01:01 PM
since when does sediment have that much weight to it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:01:32 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
No reaction. “@hockeymomof5: @JimLichtenstein What is the juror's reaction to this back and forth with Spitz?”
9 minutes ago

They already discounted what he is saying


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:01:36 PM
This defies common sense. Brain Sediment in a skull that is in dirty water would be washed out, and in a picture where sediment is visible in the skull after being in dirty water could not possibly be reliably identified as brain sediment vs. plain dirt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 12:01:43 PM
How can there be "brain dust" left after 6 months exposed to the elements and when Caylee's bone's were in dirt, water, and ravaged by animals?

Makes no sense.
Dirt was what was inside her skull after being exposed to the elements for 6 months.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:01:53 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Watching. No reaction. “@jesusucsb: @JimLichtenstein @hockeymomof5 Whats juror 4 doing?”
5 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)
Edit-fixed link. MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:01:56 PM
Dr. Spitz:  The sediment is very sticky.  That's why it's still there.

So, let's send it off, shall we?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:01:58 PM
He is so full of crap  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
It doesnt matter that the skull was on its side for a week, a month or longer....the skull should have never existed to begin with!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:02:06 PM
Does it really matter what side Caylee's body was laying on?  How does this prove or disprove anything the defense is claiming?  I don't get it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:02:08 PM
Dr. God doesn't need to research.  He is God.

Spitz is just making up as he goes aong and you will do iy my way no matter what even if there is nothing there that tells you to do it like this.

How dare any one question me.  No one can do this job like me, no one.

The residue in the brain is what I say it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 12:02:42 PM
Jeff could probably stop at any time , this guys a goner

Ashton isn't going to stop till the demon is totally destroyed.

Go Jeff.  This is beautiful.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:02:42 PM
It isn't there now - she was cremated.  In the other case that he was bragging about they found sleep inducing drugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:02:57 PM
He is so full of crap  ::MonkeyDevil::

The entire defense needs an emergency administration of Metamucil!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:03:18 PM
Dr. God doesn't need to research.  He is God.

Spitz is just making up as he goes aong and you will do iy my way no matter what even if there is nothing there that tells you to do it like this.

How dare any one question me.  No one can do this job like me, no one.

The residue in the brain is what I say it is.
EXACTLY!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:03:25 PM
Wow! He is JEALOUS of Dr. G. She got her own show, he didn't! <oh snap>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:03:36 PM
I bet Dr. G is sooooo glad she didn't let this weirdo into her autopsy.  This is all b/c he wasn't allowed into the autopsy.

He just said, I'm not a chemist but believe me, it is brain.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 12:04:17 PM
So how would the brain dust prove that she drowned, or was suffocated?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:04:21 PM
Jeff's going to point out the holes in the skull. Eye sockets, base, etc.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cadillac on June 18, 2011, 12:04:23 PM
I must be sick b/c this is painful yet I am enjoying it so much.
My bottle of Tums is almost gone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 18, 2011, 12:04:30 PM
Good morning, monkeys!  Just got online...whew...I'm so far behind.

Is it going well for the defense or the prosectuion?  TIA



You better watch the video once it's up loaded!

Thanks, will do for sure!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 12:04:33 PM
Can you imagine growing up with this guy as your father!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:04:35 PM
I bet Dr. G is sooooo glad she didn't let this weirdo into her autopsy.  This is all b/c he wasn't allowed into the autopsy.

He just said, I'm not a chemist but believe me, it is brain.
::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 12:04:43 PM
Although I live in the same state as this so-called Dr., I am beyond thrilled that all our criminal autopsies are performed by an excellent little organization - the Michigan State Police Forensics Dept., whose members are trained in testimony. They've never let us down like this senior fool has.

Dr. Dude, please move across the river to Windsor. I'm afraid your ego isn't big enough for this state. You are combative, egotistical and arrogant. You are doing your "team" no favors.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:04:48 PM
Dr Spittoon is getting dissected, how ironic


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:05:13 PM
So how would the brain dust prove that she drowned, or was suffocated?

It doesn't and I don't think the position of the head (espeically facing upwards) is inconsistent with the state theory in any way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:05:20 PM
Jeff is still circling him, poking.. he hasnt zoomed in for the kill yet
Keep playing with him for our enjoyment Jeff  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:05:44 PM
LOL, now Spitz is defying the laws of gravity.

GOOD GRIEF


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
CASEY! You're forgetting to look upset!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:05:51 PM
now he isn't sure gravity would apply and that the hair would fall down!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
OMG!!! Hair defies gravity. Yeah, right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:06:38 PM
Whoa!   here he goes with the defense theory that people come along and move it....what crap


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:06:49 PM
Jeff is still circling him, poking.. he hasnt zoomed in for the kill yet
Keep playing with him for our enjoyment Jeff  ::MonkeyGavel::
Its like watching a Matador.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:06:53 PM
OMG!!! Hair defies gravity. Yeah, right.

Darn static!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:07:16 PM
So hair grows directly out of the skull and is not attached to skin - good to know. I'll be more careful when I brush.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 12:07:17 PM
"People come and move it"? What about the animals? Storm water?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:07:25 PM
OMG!!! Hair defies gravity. Yeah, right.

No the beeotch had Caylee's hair in front of her face!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:08:02 PM
So hair grows directly out of the skull and is not attached to skin - good to know. I'll be more careful when I brush.
::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 12:08:03 PM
The ol' fart is just argumentative for the sake of being onery.  Now he is arguing against Newton's Law of Gravity.     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 12:08:19 PM
OMG!!! Hair defies gravity. Yeah, right.

Darn static!

Omg, he needs to retire...Does not make sense....
 ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Put the pictures up!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 12:08:38 PM
 ::monkeymargarita:: ::monkeymargarita::  Trust me ...it IS 5 o'clock somewhere ::pullinghairout::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:08:43 PM
Things I learned from the defense experts in Casey's trial:

1.  Food is defined as something I eat - good to remember - dirt is NOT food
2.  Hair grows out of my skull.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 12:08:45 PM
Oh, give it a rest Casey. No one's buying the act anymore.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:08:55 PM
LOL, now Spitz is defying the laws of gravity.

GOOD GRIEF
He's something!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 12:08:55 PM
OMG! The doc just snatched that skull back after Jeff was done like give me my skull, you can't play with it anymore!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:09:18 PM
Casey not looking again....no look beeotch, look at what you did  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:09:24 PM
So hair grows directly out of the skull and is not attached to skin - good to know. I'll be more careful when I brush.
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:09:35 PM
OMG! The doc just snatched that skull back after Jeff was done like give me my skull, you can't play with it anymore!

It's my pretty, all mine!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 12:09:46 PM
CASEY! You're forgetting to look upset!

She must have heard you, looking away now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 12:09:47 PM
I must be sick b/c this is painful yet I am enjoying it so much.
My bottle of Tums is almost gone.

I bought more yesterday. It isn't like Caylee's bones/skull, etc. sat in the same position for six months of weathering/animal activity/hurricane/water mothion in the wooded area, etc. I must be missing something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:09:50 PM
If I were on the jury at this point, Red flags would be beating me to death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:09:52 PM
::monkeymargarita:: ::monkeymargarita::  Trust me ...it IS 5 o'clock somewhere ::pullinghairout::
  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:09:52 PM
SNAGGED AGAIN


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:09:57 PM
So, bald men have issues with their skull, not the skin/hair follicles.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:10:06 PM
Things I learned from the defense experts in Casey's trial:

1.  Food is defined as something I eat - good to remember - dirt is NOT food
2.  Hair grows out of my skull.

Yes! Methinks we should sue to get our college tuition back! We were improperly taught!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Just got home, are they going all day or will they recess at one. TIA JSM  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:10:54 PM
So, bald men have issues with their skull, not the skin/hair follicles.

he can't even admit to what he AND THE jury can see in a picture


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:10:54 PM
what the heck is this little show?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:11:07 PM
If I were on the jury at this point, Red flags would be beating me to death.

Yes, because if the defense knew it was an "accidental drowning" they would have asked for a plea three years ago & wouldnt be fighting a first degree murder charge so any of this testimony would be pertinent...thou protest too much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:11:14 PM
I must be sick b/c this is painful yet I am enjoying it so much.
My bottle of Tums is almost gone.

I bought more yesterday. It isn't like Caylee's bones/skull, etc. sat in the same position for six months of weathering/animal activity/hurricane/water mothion in the wooded area, etc. I must be missing something.

The shelf where you were supposed to check your logic during Spitz's testimony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:11:16 PM
CASEY! You're forgetting to look upset!

She must have heard you, looking away now

Simms is probably reading here :) Hahaha


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:11:39 PM
Dig in deeper Spittoon, you are a complete fool


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 12:11:40 PM
The Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23

Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”


 ::justice2NJ::
::MonkeyAngel:: (((CAYLEE)))  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:12:16 PM
Things I learned from the defense experts in Casey's trial:

1.  Food is defined as something I eat - good to remember - dirt is NOT food
2.  Hair grows out of my skull.

Yes! Methinks we should sue to get our college tuition back! We were improperly taught!

I'm thinking I could be an expert in something, anything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
what the heck is this little show?

pure narcissism


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:12:26 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
@ I've been on the Today Show three times (not on the Caylee story.) Believe me, it's something I will always remember.

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:12:31 PM
so water splashed the hair and glued it to the bone.   ::MonkeyDevil::  is this guy mentally cracked?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:12:56 PM
Oh now the water washed around it and splashed the hair to the skull, attached it, glued it to the bone   OMG!  bahahaaa


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:13:04 PM
Wait a sec....the water moved the hair, but it didn't move the brain residue?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:13:25 PM
 KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Spitz is getting infuriated over his opinions being questioned


http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:13:29 PM
These witnesses are so set in their agendas that they won't give an inch and they end up just looking ridiculous and their entire testimony becomes exposed as what it is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
dude this guy knows a lot about stuff he doesn't know about.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:13:44 PM
Things I learned from the defense experts in Casey's trial:

1.  Food is defined as something I eat - good to remember - dirt is NOT food
2.  Hair grows out of my skull.

Yes! Methinks we should sue to get our college tuition back! We were improperly taught!

I'm thinking I could be an expert in something, anything.
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Mtnmom on June 18, 2011, 12:13:49 PM
He sounds like that guy who does the shows on the egyptian pyramids and mummies


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:13:55 PM
I just wish CJBP could impeach this ass now, and end this, this,....I don't even have words for it.   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:14:00 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Jurors 11 and 12 shared a little snicker at the word "kerfuffle." They looked amused. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Spitz is getting infuriated over his opinions being questioned


http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Too bad, so sad


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:14:14 PM
Things I learned from the defense experts in Casey's trial:

1.  Food is defined as something I eat - good to remember - dirt is NOT food
2.  Hair grows out of my skull.

Yes! Methinks we should sue to get our college tuition back! We were improperly taught!

I'm thinking I could be an expert in something, anything.

I bet a lot of we Monkeys could do better than this guy!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:14:15 PM
what the heck is this little show?

pure narcissism
::MonkeyDevil:: Exactly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 12:14:17 PM
Even Casey can't watch this train wreck! Bobo, no goodies for you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:14:47 PM
 stevehelling Steve Helling
Juror 6 had a little smirk on his face when Spitz was pinned down. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:14:54 PM
Oh, I see......... A complete autopsy requires cutting the skull, but not an examination of the hair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: kimmy2 on June 18, 2011, 12:14:54 PM
This would be comical if it didnt involve a 2 year old childs murder


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 12:15:33 PM
CASEY! You're forgetting to look upset!

She must have heard you, looking away now

Simms is probably reading here :) Hahaha

Yep and Baez too when he and Casey are reading his blackberry lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:15:37 PM
Oh, I see......... A complete autopsy requires cutting the skull, but not an examination of the hair.
or pesky chemical analysis when deciding what is brain matter and what isn't.  After all, he doesn't have a lab.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:15:47 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 12:15:59 PM
This really is SAD........poor Caylee!!!  To have this old man lying testify falsely to save her murderer just so, so SAD!!@

Hold your head up biotch and LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 12:16:03 PM
Not hearing much from the duhfense during this cross-ex.  I wonder why????? ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 12:16:11 PM
Jeff is still circling him, poking.. he hasnt zoomed in for the kill yet
Keep playing with him for our enjoyment Jeff  ::MonkeyGavel::

Great analogy!  Imagining a cat playing with the mouse.  JA is going to get him so angry that he is going to be agreeing with Dr G.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:16:32 PM
OMG now he is implying contamination at the scene with NO EVIDENCE of same, which contradicted that he felt the collection was thorough


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:16:33 PM
This would be comical if it didnt involve a 2 year old childs murder

Right Kimmy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:16:40 PM
omg.... duct tape comes in a roll. i'm sorry i didn't bring a roll to show you



Ok if I was eating right now, I might be choking from laughing so hard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:16:44 PM
Not hearing much from the duhfense during this cross-ex.  I wonder why????? ::MonkeyGavel::

Everyone on the defense got beat down today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:16:47 PM
stevehelling Steve Helling
Juror 6 had a little smirk on his face when Spitz was pinned down. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling (http://twitter.com/#!/stevehelling)

 ::snipping2::
Juror 6
Photos of jurors are not allowed
Description: He is a 33-year-old while male. He is married and has two children, a 6-year-old son and a 21-month-old daughter. He has been a chef for 15 years. He has cooked on television twice.
Fast fact: He understands the defense doesn't have to prove anything. He said he would have no issues if Casey Anthony did not testify. He could recommend a death sentence.
Quote: "I think if the law dictated it, I would be able to follow it."
 ::snipping2::

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 12:16:52 PM
So the doc is saying kc went back and put the duct tape on after decomposed.  The tape was from A's house.
He's loony.....take him away..
 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:16:54 PM
anthonycase WOFL
Jury appears to be less affected by skull photos this go around. #caseyanthony #fox35

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)
::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Oh, I see......... A complete autopsy requires cutting the skull, but not an examination of the hair.

no chit!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:17:06 PM
Dr. Spitz will be the talk of the weekend shows, but not in a way he;ll like.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: califmom on June 18, 2011, 12:17:25 PM




Did Bozo and Mumbles check out for a bit?  Haven't heard a peep out of them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:17:28 PM
Ashton now questioning Spitz on the application of duct tape after Caylee had no skin left.

Spitz will later discuss how we never landed on the moon. Sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:17:34 PM
Ashton has the defense expert testifying as to how the skull was and would be wrapped in duct tape - priceless!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:17:35 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Spitz: I know it is sticky because I have examined other hair, not this hair. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:17:54 PM
Jeff is still circling him, poking.. he hasnt zoomed in for the kill yet
Keep playing with him for our enjoyment Jeff  ::MonkeyGavel::

Great analogy!  Imagining a cat playing with the mouse.  JA is going to get him so angry that he is going to be agreeing with Dr G.
Its a comin ....  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
Ashton now questioning Spitz on the application of duct tape after Caylee had no skin left.

Spitz will later discuss how we never landed on the moon. Sorry.
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:18:24 PM
Oh, I see......... A complete autopsy requires cutting the skull, but not an examination of the hair.
or pesky chemical analysis when deciding what is brain matter and what isn't.  After all, he doesn't have a lab.

You'd think with his credentials, any lab would be honored to accomodate him!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:18:52 PM
Ashton just snagged him again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 12:18:56 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Oh!
Was that stated in the trial..I missed that.
 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:19:07 PM
Ashton now questioning Spitz on the application of duct tape after Caylee had no skin left.

Spitz will later discuss how we never landed on the moon. Sorry.
and that Elvis is alive


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:19:07 PM
Ashton has the defense expert testifying as to how the skull was and would be wrapped in duct tape - priceless!

Ashton is making Spitz look like a crazy old man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:19:12 PM
Jeff Ashton teaching a master class... brilliant!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:19:37 PM
This is totally ridiculous.  I hope the jury is scratching their heads- and each others. 

This doesn't even make sense.  As smart as this man was at one time, he went off the deep end.  So sad!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:20:04 PM
I wish they wouldn't refer to the person in this hypothetical as a he.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:20:19 PM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony If you're not near your tv , Casey has her whole neck craned around, looking down, to avoid photo of skull


http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
This is totally ridiculous.  I hope the jury is scratching their heads- and each others. 

This doesn't even make sense.  As smart as this man was at one time, he went off the deep end.  So sad!
And to believe this over Dr. G's very straight forward testimony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:20:36 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Oh!
Was that stated in the trial..I missed that.
 ::rhino::

The skull was cracked. Spitz said he didn't recall that he did it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:20:38 PM
You know Casey is hiding her face because she's finding this amusing as hell.. not because she's "sad".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:20:43 PM
Ashton just snagged him again

 I guess Kronk is a forensic specialist who could have put Caylee's skull back togather after putting duct tape on. Who knew he went to med school? All that he he was just a meter reader. Go figure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:20:58 PM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony I gotta say it, I'm feeling badly for Dr. Spitz right now. He seems at times confused and then he goes to irritated

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:21:09 PM
Someone should grab casey by her 'bun" and make her watch this train wreck!

This old coot is testifying for you, chick!  haha!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 12:21:20 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Spitz is getting infuriated over his opinions being questioned


http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Too bad, so sad

I have absolutely no sympathy for this demon!  Boo F'n Hoo.  Hopefully Jeff will totally anillate this ho & it will end his career of trying to free murderers forever.

Here comes the big trap from Ashton about Spits' duct tape theory!

 ::boxingjeffbaez::  Go Ashton.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:21:21 PM
Ashton now questioning Spitz on the application of duct tape after Caylee had no skin left.

Spitz will later discuss how we never landed on the moon. Sorry.
and that Elvis is alive

I guess we know why there weren't more answers in JFK's death?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 12:21:39 PM
wow he is not only a goner but looks like he is senial


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:21:40 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Spitz doesn't know if the taping was done while skull was on ground or if it was picked up. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:21:51 PM
Spittoon doesnt remember a picture of it on both sides

If you would want to put the mandible back in anatomic condition youd have to tape both sides

Dr conceded it was on both sides, thats it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 18, 2011, 12:21:59 PM
This is totally ridiculous.  I hope the jury is scratching their heads- and each others. 

This doesn't even make sense.  As smart as this man was at one time, he went off the deep end.  So sad!

No wonder I'm sitting here totally confused. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:22:09 PM
Ashton just snagged him again

 I guess Kronk is a forensic specialist who could have put Caylee's skull back togather after putting duct tape on. Who knew he went to med school? All that he he was just a meter reader. Go figure.

and just for the fame of finding a dead child's body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: califmom on June 18, 2011, 12:22:16 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Now that made me cry.... ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 12:22:50 PM
You know Casey is hiding her face because she's finding this amusing as hell.. not because she's "sad".

lmffao


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 12:22:51 PM
I just wish CJBP could impeach this ass now, and end this, this,....I don't even have words for it.   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

I do, but Klaas would really get pissed if I used them!!!  :smt076 :smt076 :smt076


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:22:55 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Ashton says when skull was found it was in anatomical position (upright)! #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:23:06 PM
WOW. somebody put duct tape directly right on the skull itself.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 18, 2011, 12:23:15 PM
Romans 1:22

Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: kimmy2 on June 18, 2011, 12:23:23 PM
It is so clear this man needs to retire...i hope his family is watching this...this is embarrassing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:23:33 PM
ahahahah    NO @$$hat   there were three pieces attached to the skull    a FOURTH was found nine feet away....convenient you would remember that part though, ey?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:23:39 PM
bobkealing bob kealing
by AmandaOberWESH
#CaseyAnthony Ashton pointing out how improbable theory is of tape being placed on bare bones of skull with jaw in correct place.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 12:23:40 PM
4th piece of duct tape?  HUH?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:23:47 PM
This testimony is soooo much more believable than the duct tape was put on Caylee before or at time of death.  They should have stuck with we can't tell if she was actually dead at time it was applied or if it was soon after.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:24:07 PM
Ashton asks: why is there no glue residue on the skull?

Spitz does not answer but states a question instead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 12:24:08 PM

(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/asht.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:24:24 PM
Romans 1:22

Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.


I'm loving your quotes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:24:44 PM
OMG.. he is actually proving exactly why no residue of the tape would be found on the skin OR tape...  what a dumba$$   WATER!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:24:53 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
One juror is laughing at Dr. Spitz's theory about someone putting duct tape on the skull

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 12:25:10 PM
Jeff Ashton teaching a master class... brilliant!!!!!


Absolutely! So happy Caylee has him on her side! He doesn't skip a beat asking these questions, knows exactly what he's talking about, I'm so impressed, hope the jury is too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:25:18 PM
Ashton asks: why is there no glue residue on the skull?

Spitz does not answer but states a question instead.

It's hard to answer truthfully when it isn't the truth. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:25:39 PM
It is so clear this man needs to retire...i hope his family is watching this...this is embarrassing

Honestly, it has nothing to do with his age or mental state - he's an egomaniac and he takes joy in trying to set murderers free


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:25:40 PM
4th piece of duct tape?  HUH?
Yes!  Some speculate it may have been used on Caylee's wrists.  We don't know for sure tho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 12:26:03 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: kimmy2 on June 18, 2011, 12:26:03 PM
Aston is a very good lawyer.......i bet he is thinking....this is way too easyyyyy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
One juror is laughing at Dr. Spitz's theory about someone putting duct tape on the skull

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:26:06 PM
4th piece of duct tape?  HUH?
Yes!  Some speculate it may have been used on Caylee's wrists.  We don't know for sure tho.
  Poor Caylee.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:26:08 PM
Take your time Jeff.. torture him slowly.. its only 12:23


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:26:10 PM
I'm waiting for him to dispute the definition of tape and  what is sticky.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:26:11 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
One juror is laughing at Dr. Spitz's theory about someone putting duct tape on the skull

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

They won't get in trouble for that, will they? I hope not! I want them all laughing at this guy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:26:11 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
One juror is laughing at Dr. Spitz's theory about someone putting duct tape on the skull

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Im surprised they all are not rolling on the floor


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 12:26:58 PM
I just wish CJBP could impeach this ass now, and end this, this,....I don't even have words for it.   ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

Me too..Why for the love of God is he allowing this man to continue to testify?

I think JP has great respect for Ashton..and just loves to see him work..and loves watching the defense witnesses squirm while they are being blown away by Jeff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: kimmy2 on June 18, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
It is so clear this man needs to retire...i hope his family is watching this...this is embarrassing

Honestly, it has nothing to do with his age or mental state - he's an egomaniac and he takes joy in trying to set murderers free
                                                                                                                  I dont watch many trials..but i can say i have never seen anything like this or yesterday


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:27:14 PM
so is he now saying someone would have to cut the hair off the skull to apply the tape?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:27:15 PM
Take your time Jeff.. torture him slowly.. its only 12:23

I definitely would like him to try to get it right to 1PM, leave the jury for the rest of the weekend with this foolishness


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:27:15 PM
OMG.. he is actually proving exactly why no residue of the tape would be found on the skin OR tape...  what a dumba$$   WATER!!

I guess Kronk did not follow the protocol of sticking duct tape to a skull  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sorry, but this is some of the biggest BS I have ever heard a forensic expert testify to. A long storied career and he will be known for this. Unreal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:27:26 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Another juror is smirking

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:27:40 PM
It is so clear this man needs to retire...i hope his family is watching this...this is embarrassing

Honestly, it has nothing to do with his age or mental state - he's an egomaniac and he takes joy in trying to set murderers free
                                                                                                                  I dont watch many trials..but i can say i have never seen anything like this or yesterday

O its one for the books, that is for sure


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 12:27:48 PM
AmandaOberWESH Amanda Ober
#CaseyAnthony I gotta say it, I'm feeling badly for Dr. Spitz right now. He seems at times confused and then he goes to irritated

http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH (http://twitter.com/#!/AmandaOberWESH)

Sorry but this guy should not have taken the stand if he was not prepared.  So beyond excuses for them.

Dr. Spitz knows all about this case he is simply neglecting to give full disclosure and hope he can claim ignorance.  I call bs. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:27:57 PM
I would believe aliens killed this child before I would believe any theory this guy put forward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:27:58 PM

KCJackie  Fantastic photos today!!  You ROCK!!   Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:28:00 PM
 VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
Skull shown in court... George not there, Cindy not looking

http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:28:00 PM
WOW.  Now he is making an accusation again the ME's office??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Scatty on June 18, 2011, 12:28:17 PM
 O! M! G! ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 12:28:18 PM
OMG! Claiming med. examiner's personeel put hair on the skull for the picture.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:28:25 PM
OMGosh!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 12:28:31 PM
Holy effin crap.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 12:28:37 PM
JA has got this Dr. so confuse I feel sorry for him.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I think Casey is hiding her face to keep from laughing.  ::MonkeyDevil:: Bozo hasn't objected hardly at all....bet he wishes he hadn't called this witness to testify.  ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:28:38 PM
anthonycase WOFL
Juror 11 taking lots of notes. #fox35 #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:28:46 PM
OMG OMG OMG   he is out right making an accusation that the CSI moved the hair and goes into a whole innocence project like speech

Unbelievable!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
WOW.  Now he is making an accusation again the ME's office??

This guy is out of control. What a friggin loon. He just accused the ME's office of tampering with evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
HOLY CRAP what in the hell is he talking about now a conspiracy....good job bozo for the state


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
Do a side by side, Jeff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:28:58 PM
I knew it! this is all b/c he wasn't invited to the autopsy.  Is he a spiteful Bi#ch too?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:28:59 PM
HAAAAAA!!!
So, the crime scene tech's, Jennifer Welch(?), staged that pic??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 12:29:28 PM
OMG! Claiming med. examiner's personeel put hair on the skull for the picture.
Also blaming LE  ::MonkeyEek::  he can tell horror stories  ::MonkeyNoNo:: This man is FOS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:29:31 PM
Conspiracy theory!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:29:39 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Just saw the pictures of Caylee's skull that are being shown in court. They are gruesome. I doubt we will show them online. #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

So sad and we know that Dr G handled her with loving hands and respect as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 12:30:24 PM
This really is SAD........poor Caylee!!!  To have this old man lying testify falsely to save her murderer just so, so SAD!!@

Hold your head up biotch and LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID!!!!!

Yes Sunny..why are they allowing this old lying blowhart to continue his testimony..he is not stating facts..he isn't even talking about this case 90% of the time.  I hope he rots in Hell for doing this in the murder trial of a child.

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:30:25 PM
OMG! I cannot believe he said that the photos were staged! What about "all the puzzle pieces together?" THE PUZZLE LEADS TO CASEY!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:30:40 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Ashton is clearly upset with Spitz's testimony #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:30:48 PM
So people now involved in defense consipiracy theory:
George
Roy K.
The guy with the wrong phone number
law enforcement
the medical examiners office.
the maggots

did I miss anyone?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 12:30:55 PM
Holy effin crap.....
Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:30:58 PM
He's going to drop that skull before this is over.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 12:31:03 PM
Question.. didn't they x-ray Caylee's skull???? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:31:22 PM
OSCaseyAnthony Casey Anthony News
Spitz is saying that the medical examiner or someone preparing the photo moved the hair for the photo #CaseyAnthony

http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony (http://twitter.com/#!/OSCaseyAnthony)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
OMG! I cannot believe he said that the photos were staged! What about "all the puzzle pieces together?" THE PUZZLE LEADS TO CASEY!

Ashton took a breather, his recross will finish this fool HARD


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:31:35 PM
I knew it! this is all b/c he wasn't invited to the autopsy.  Is he a spiteful Bi#ch too?

Oh yeah! Dr G got her own show. He didn't! Wowsa! Jealous much? Yikes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 12:31:36 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
One juror is laughing at Dr. Spitz's theory about someone putting duct tape on the skull

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Ok, we got a winner.....
 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on June 18, 2011, 12:31:41 PM
This is so pathetic.......Spitz should have his medical license revoked FOREVER!

He is a disgrace!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:31:43 PM
Interesting. I never heard of a fracture on the inside cavity of the skull but not the outside.  How could you find a hemmorage when there was no soft tissue, including a brain left?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:31:46 PM
anthonycase WOFL
Juror 11 taking lots of notes. #fox35 #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)
::snipping2::
Juror 11
Photos of jurors are not allowed
Description: He is a white male in his early 30s. He teaches physical education and health to 10th graders. He’s been a teacher for 15 years.
Fast fact: He knows a little about the case, such as that the Caylee was found dead and her mother was accused.
Quote: He says he has “formed an opinion of guilt,” but could lay it aside.
 ::snipping2::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-casey-anthony-jury-bios,0,539793.photogallery


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 18, 2011, 12:31:47 PM
OMG! Claiming med. examiner's personeel put hair on the skull for the picture.
Also blaming LE  ::MonkeyEek::  he can tell horror stories  ::MonkeyNoNo:: This man is FOS

Yea because the way it was found doesn't fit in with their fantasy senerio. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:31:51 PM
Great job Jeff!!  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 12:32:02 PM
HOLY CRAP what in the hell is he talking about now a conspiracy....good job bozo for the state
Kronk did it from behind the grassy knoll.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:32:16 PM
I don't know the answer to this, but if there was a hemorrhage, how could you tell if there was no brain matter left? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:32:32 PM
He's going to drop that skull before this is over.

i'd be scared he'd throw it at me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 12:32:39 PM
OMG! Claiming med. examiner's personeel put hair on the skull for the picture.
Also blaming LE  ::MonkeyEek::  he can tell horror stories  ::MonkeyNoNo:: This man is FOS

Yea because the way it was found doesn't fit in with their fantasy senerio. ::MonkeyMad::
Unfreakinbelievable.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 12:32:53 PM
So people now involved in defense consipiracy theory:
George
Roy K.
The guy with the wrong phone number
law enforcement
the medical examiners office.
the maggots

did I miss anyone?
All us monkeys who have been participating since day one...er, day 31


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
So people now involved in defense consipiracy theory:
George
Roy K.
The guy with the wrong phone number
law enforcement
the medical examiners office.
the maggots

did I miss anyone?

You forgot the school children with the wayward heart stickers! lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:33:24 PM
I don't know the answer to this, but if there was a hemorrhage, how could you tell if there was no brain matter left? 
He's saying it would stain the skull. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:33:31 PM
HOLY CRAP what in the hell is he talking about now a conspiracy....good job bozo for the state
Kronk did it from behind the grassy knoll.

And then he took it and threw it over the Chapaquitic bridge but put on diver equipment to retrieve it because he wanted the reward


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:33:56 PM
I don't know the answer to this, but if there was a hemorrhage, how could you tell if there was no brain matter left? 
He's saying it would stain the skull. 

Which is totally irrelevant


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Stacey on June 18, 2011, 12:33:58 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

Sunny it also breaks my heart. Caylee was thrown out like she was a piece of trash by her mother and in death because of her mother her little skull was broken. casey will not stop till  her little girl will tell nothing more. But her Hero's in court will give this little one justice.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Monkey hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:33:59 PM
HOLY CRAP what in the hell is he talking about now a conspiracy....good job bozo for the state
Kronk did it from behind the grassy knoll.

That is really the only conclusion you can come to! Case closed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:34:21 PM
Jackie? Thanks for the pictures!!  ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:34:21 PM
You wont find any presence of chloroform in the hair or the bones, as is


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: kimmy2 on June 18, 2011, 12:34:44 PM
Everyone involved in this case on the defense side is completey nuckin futs! Theres not 1 that makes any sense at all!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 12:35:02 PM
Oh boy now it is a Latin class.... this man is a fool.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:35:02 PM
It had to be manipulated?   No, I dont think so JO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:35:03 PM
bobkealing bob kealing
by OSCaseyAnthony
#CaseyAnthony Ashton places notebook down loudly after returning to table. Jurors look at him.

http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:35:14 PM
So people now involved in defense consipiracy theory:
George
Roy K.
The guy with the wrong phone number
law enforcement
the medical examiners office.
the maggots

did I miss anyone?
I was going to say the maggots, but I see you already got them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
Yet another accusation that the skull was manipulated.. position on brown paper for the purpose of taking a picture, "because the skull didn't walk there".  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I just dare him to suggest somebody "manipulated" the duct tape.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:35:24 PM
He is manipulative.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:35:45 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Another juror was also smirking

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 12:35:47 PM
The Civil Suit Lawyers in Florida and beyond are all going to be booked through the next ten years after this case is over  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:36:00 PM
Jeff is done....he did enough


Masterful again!    Attorneys to sidebar


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:36:04 PM
OMG, Jeff is letting him go.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:36:11 PM
So people now involved in defense consipiracy theory:
George
Roy K.
The guy with the wrong phone number
law enforcement
the medical examiners office.
the maggots

did I miss anyone?
I was going to say the maggots, but I see you already got them. 

I still want to know why they weren't interviews (after being mirandized of course).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tevye on June 18, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
Don't forget "your" skull, Dr. Dementia!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:36:21 PM
 JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Yes, Spitz said "shmutherd somebody". #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:36:22 PM
The Civil Suit Lawyers in Florida and beyond are all going to be booked through the ten years after this case is over  ::MonkeyNoNo::

O yeah!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 12:36:25 PM

KCJackie  Fantastic photos today!!  You ROCK!!   Thank you!

 ::MonkeyWink:: YVW!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Samarie on June 18, 2011, 12:36:27 PM
I'm going way out on a limb here....

Dr. Spitz is obviously past his prime and delinquent wrt to medical advances that have manifested, over the course of the last few decades, and accepted by the medical community. I've been angry at the defense before, but this takes the cake. Dr. Spitz has probably witnessed some real horrors, having grown up in Europe, during the holocaust, and being a Jew.... I take issue with the DT even consulting this Dr, let alone securing his testimony...They have taken advantage of an old fool, whose methods and knowledge are significantly impaired at this point! I don't believe Dr Spitz is in control of his faculties and I blame the DT for the latest fiasco....JMHO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:36:39 PM
HOLY CRAP what in the hell is he talking about now a conspiracy....good job bozo for the state
Kronk did it from behind the grassy knoll.

Oh! And here I was thinking he was in the book depository with a rifle and a piece of fried chicken!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:36:59 PM
Jeff doesn't recross........... hmmmmm

I'd LOVE to know what each juror is thinking. I'm sure the State will call Dr. G as a rebuttal witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Spitz is treading on thin ice by attacking the medical examiner (or possibly someone else in CSI) for evidence tampering.

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:37:11 PM
Are we done for the day?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:37:13 PM
I think the jurors (and our) intelligence was just insulted greatly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 12:37:15 PM
Oh so animal's couldn't have changed position of the skull? Dayum!  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:38:11 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Spitz is treading on thin ice by attacking the medical examiner (or possibly someone else in CSI) for evidence tampering.

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

How dare they  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:38:13 PM
Done for the day, let's see what CJBP says outside the presence of the jury    God, people hold up on the analysis for a hot sec


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:38:20 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cheeky monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:38:47 PM
Did George molest the entire medical examiners office in order for them to be so corrupt?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KittyMom on June 18, 2011, 12:39:09 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)
WHAT?????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:39:18 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Cindy Anthony looked down during the testimony showing Caylee's skull. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:39:39 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

Gosh, I must be watching the wrong trial??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:40:06 PM
JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
Not staged. Sad. “@deedrakerby: @JimLichtenstein did the photos looked stage? And did the 2 photos look different? #CaseyAnthony”

http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 12:40:18 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)
Is this a joke??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: califmom on June 18, 2011, 12:40:30 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Was she watching the same trial???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 12:40:32 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)
WHAT?????????
WTH???
Were we wathing the same trial?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:40:35 PM
CJBP discussing what is to be included in reports per his order

Reread it & comply, CJBP

be prepared to work until 3PM next Saturday   CJBP wont hurry the testimony but he will extend the work hours on Saturday & also later during the week


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:41:03 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)
WHAT?????????
WTH???
Were we wathing the same trial?

She drank tainted Koolaid...no way


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: anothermonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)
Apparently somebody drank the kool-aid!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 12:41:27 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

Gosh, I must be watching the wrong trial??
OMG I thought Aphrodite Jones was smarter than that.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 18, 2011, 12:42:01 PM
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/kcendofday.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:42:25 PM
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
Court is done for the day. Attorneys will head to depose Dr. Rodriguez. See you Monday in court. #CaseyAnthony -jfell

http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey (http://twitter.com/#!/CFNews13Casey)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: kimmy2 on June 18, 2011, 12:42:59 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)
WHAT?????????
                                                                                                                            I believe she is totally mistaken..or i was watching something totally different from her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 12:43:04 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)
I guess only some waited till noon to start drinking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:43:40 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

Gosh, I must be watching the wrong trial??
OMG I thought Aphrodite Jones was smarter than that.  ::MonkeyShocked::

She has made quite a few comments favoring the defense & has put merit to Casey's allegations against her father & brother....personally I cant stand her, her tone or her false empathy toward anyone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 12:44:02 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Was she watching the same trial???

I think that is a rather lazy analysis. Acting like a pompus, conspiratorial fool is hardly owning the court room. People are quick to dismiss cooks and moonbats. As for his expertize, how many young folks just pat the crazy old uncle on the head and say .. that's just Uncle Steve. Now get him some milk and cookies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 18, 2011, 12:44:56 PM
So the judge is adding up to 12 hours a week to the schedule.  Is that what you all heard?  tia


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 18, 2011, 12:46:31 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

Gosh, I must be watching the wrong trial??
OMG I thought Aphrodite Jones was smarter than that.  ::MonkeyShocked::

She has made quite a few comments favoring the defense & has put merit to Casey's allegations against her father & brother....personally I cant stand her, her tone or her false empathy toward anyone
the competition must be getting tough so she has to take the "devil's advocate side" to guarantee a spot on tv today.  what a loser


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:46:34 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Was she watching the same trial???

I think that is a rather lazy analysis. Acting like a pompus, conspiratorial fool is hardly owning the court room. People are quick to dismiss cooks and moonbats. As for his expertize, how many young folks just pat the crazy old uncle on the head and say .. that's just Uncle Steve. Now get him some milk and cookies.

She also must have missed the two jurors laughing at the witness!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 18, 2011, 12:46:55 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

Gosh, I must be watching the wrong trial??

Me too  ::MonkeyNoNo::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 18, 2011, 12:47:23 PM
There are 12 jurors that took in Dr. Spitz's testimony. I believe that it's going to be a real bone of contention during deliberations. I'd be surprised if one or two of them didn't have a different take on today's events than we do. Hopefully, Dr. G can clear it up as a rebuttal witness.

I don't think there was a homerun today by the State, but only because I remember my impressions during jury selection about a couple of jurors.

JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: theboyzmom on June 18, 2011, 12:47:28 PM
I just got back but I see that Spiz did not disappoint - he was the obnoxious and pompous self. Now to read back . . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 12:48:29 PM
I think the jurors (and our) intelligence was just insulted greatly.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:49:01 PM
So the judge is adding up to 12 hours a week to the schedule.  Is that what you all heard?  tia
I thought he said til 3:00 on Sat. and 5:30 - 6:00 on the other days...Mon - Fri.  So if that is what I heard, it's not bad, I think the jurors will be fine with this and CJBP just gave the attorneys ample time to move up their witnesses.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 12:49:06 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

ITA Sunny..it brought tears to my eyes..this man has no respect for the deceased..he should not be a doctor of anything ..he didn't even act apologetic..he is not brilliant he is a complete imbecile with no heart or soul.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 12:49:27 PM
I'm going way out on a limb here....

Dr. Spitz is obviously past his prime and delinquent wrt to medical advances that have manifested, over the course of the last few decades, and accepted by the medical community. I've been angry at the defense before, but this takes the cake. Dr. Spitz has probably witnessed some real horrors, having grown up in Europe, during the holocaust, and being a Jew.... I take issue with the DT even consulting this Dr, let alone securing his testimony...They have taken advantage of an old fool, whose methods and knowledge are significantly impaired at this point! I don't believe Dr Spitz is in control of his faculties and I blame the DT for the latest fiasco....JMHO
Couldn't have said it better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
I think the jurors (and our) intelligence was just insulted greatly.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::
In a HUGE way!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:51:02 PM
There are 12 jurors that took in Dr. Spitz's testimony. I believe that it's going to be a real bone of contention during deliberations. I'd be surprised if one or two of them didn't have a different take on today's events than we do. Hopefully, Dr. G can clear it up as a rebuttal witness.

I don't think there was a homerun today by the State, but only because I remember my impressions during jury selection about a couple of jurors.

JMO.

IMHO I dont think Dr Spitz's testimony had ANY merit whatsoever & I would be totally stunned if any juror felt otherwise.  His testimony was tainted, putting forward a theory for the defense thick and thru & went against normal medical procedure in many respects just to put forward a defense for this slore.  His combative shows that he had major concerns with having to be defensive, as it turns out with a ton of merit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: califmom on June 18, 2011, 12:52:14 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)


Was she watching the same trial???


I think that is a rather lazy analysis. Acting like a pompus, conspiratorial fool is hardly owning the court room. People are quick to dismiss cooks and moonbats. As for his expertize, how many young folks just pat the crazy old uncle on the head and say .. that's just Uncle Steve. Now get him some milk and cookies.

She also must have missed the two jurors laughing at the witness!



I hope their laughing doesn't get them in trouble...  Then again, KC has been doing that through this entire trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:53:15 PM
I'm going way out on a limb here....

Dr. Spitz is obviously past his prime and delinquent wrt to medical advances that have manifested, over the course of the last few decades, and accepted by the medical community. I've been angry at the defense before, but this takes the cake. Dr. Spitz has probably witnessed some real horrors, having grown up in Europe, during the holocaust, and being a Jew.... I take issue with the DT even consulting this Dr, let alone securing his testimony...They have taken advantage of an old fool, whose methods and knowledge are significantly impaired at this point! I don't believe Dr Spitz is in control of his faculties and I blame the DT for the latest fiasco....JMHO
Couldn't have said it better.

I totally disagree respectfully because I recall his position from when he first started commenting on this case, all the way back to them being on scene after the judge ruled they would not be able to be present at the crime scene or take part in the autopsy.   He is a willing participant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 18, 2011, 12:53:38 PM
So the judge is adding up to 12 hours a week to the schedule.  Is that what you all heard?  tia

No.  I heard until 5:30 or 6:00 in the evenings - that is 1/2 to 1 hour a day, which equals 2 1/2 to 5 hours.
Also, until 3:00 on Sat.  So, the jurors get 1 1/2 hrs. for lunch. and say the judge cuts that to 1 hrs.  At 1:00 they have an hour for lunch, come back at 2:00 and work until 3:00.  That's one more hour.

Judge is talking about adding 3 1/2 to 6 hours per week.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Babybear on June 18, 2011, 12:54:45 PM
Mr. Ashton was absolutely brilliant.  One lawyer is going to come out of this trial famous for his professional work.  It ain't Baez or the Kentucky Colonel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 12:54:56 PM

I think that is a rather lazy analysis. Acting like a pompus, conspiratorial fool is hardly owning the court room. People are quick to dismiss cooks and moonbats. As for his expertize, how many young folks just pat the crazy old uncle on the head and say .. that's just Uncle Steve. Now get him some milk and cookies.

She also must have missed the two jurors laughing at the witness!



I hope their laughing doesn't get them in trouble...  Then again, KC has been doing that through this entire trial.

I was worryiing about that, too. Let's hope not!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
I do not think he is as forgetful as he plays on the witness stand.  I think he has very selective memory and plays on the feeble old man when it conveniences him.  He had no problems remembering little details when it suited him, yet forgetting everything that did not go with his theories.  A huge example for me was the book that Jeff presented and he said he had not read it, could not read it as it was written by lawyers, did not understand the words, but later on he quoted a page number from that book  ::MonkeyNoNo::    ::MonkeyNoNo::   

He needs to go retire and build birdhouses and enjoy the rest of his life rather than seek the lime light.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: califmom on June 18, 2011, 12:55:25 PM
I just got back but I see that Spiz did not disappoint - he was the obnoxious and pompous self. Now to read back . . .


Describes KC and her dream team perfectly!!  No wonder they selected him. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 18, 2011, 12:56:13 PM
So the judge is adding up to 12 hours a week to the schedule.  Is that what you all heard?  tia
I thought he said til 3:00 on Sat. and 5:30 - 6:00 on the other days...Mon - Fri.  So if that is what I heard, it's not bad, I think the jurors will be fine with this and CJBP just gave the attorneys ample time to move up their witnesses.
I would think the jurors would be more than pleased with this added time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 12:56:27 PM
I'm listening to Mr. Scheaffer say how a few jurors laughed during testimony today.  I now believe Casey turns her head away because she can't bear to see the people, that hold her fate in their hands, laughing at her or her witnesses.    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:56:55 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

ITA Sunny..it brought tears to my eyes..this man has no respect for the deceased..he should not be a doctor of anything ..he didn't even act apologetic..he is not brilliant he is a complete imbecile with no heart or soul.

It is heartbreaking & he didnt even flinch at the thought that he did that to a precious child's remains.   He couldnt even say her name but referred to Caylee as "this child" or "the child" if that.  I am appalled that he took this position as early as December 2008 based on who sought him out, disgusting.   Nice way to end a career, shamefully.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: StarMonkey on June 18, 2011, 12:57:47 PM
So what next Casey gets on stand and says kronk was her lover and then wanted a reward for finding Caylee.. what a freak show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 18, 2011, 12:59:19 PM
@Aphrodite_Jones are you kidding me???? Spit made a total @ss of himself! He is a disgrace! Even the jurors were laughing at him.

BBM


https://twitter.com/#!/JustUs4Caylee (https://twitter.com/#!/JustUs4Caylee)
Fixed.  Needed to use hyperlink.  MB
 
Guess Ashton heard the giggles and that was his signal to stop.  Dumbfense was HAD once again.  
Schaeffer said 'This might be Spits' Swan Song'  (paraphrasing).  I agree.  Thanks to the God of truth.

 ::MonkeyAngel::    Caylee's death will not be for nothing.  We are seeing one after another of these ghouls that lie & sell their soul for fame & money knocked off.  Divine intervention at work!

  



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 12:59:40 PM
I do not think he is as forgetful as he plays on the witness stand.  I think he has very selective memory and plays on the feeble old man when it conveniences him.  He had no problems remembering little details when it suited him, yet forgetting everything that did not go with his theories.  A huge example for me was the book that Jeff presented and he said he had not read it, could not read it as it was written by lawyers, did not understand the words, but later on he quoted a page number from that book  ::MonkeyNoNo::    ::MonkeyNoNo::   

He needs to go retire and build birdhouses and enjoy the rest of his life rather than seek the lime light.

Proof of that is how he conveniently remembered there was another piece of duct tape nine feet away, but he got it wrong that it was one of three but a fourth.  It shows his collusion in putting this farce of a defense forward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 01:00:14 PM
anthonycase WOFL
Juror 11 taking lots of notes. #fox35 #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)

What in the world would anyone be taking notes for?  There are no facts in what this blowhart states....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 01:00:14 PM
I'm wondering if the jurors are asking themselves.......Who is/are the morally bankrupt ones in this case? OMG!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 18, 2011, 01:00:24 PM
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Another juror was also smirking
25 minutes ago
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Another juror is smirking
32 minutes ago
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
One juror is laughing at Dr. Spitz's theory about someone putting duct tape on the skull
35 minutes ago
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Spitz is getting infuriated over his opinions being questioned
54 minutes ago
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..
1 hour ago
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Spitz has apparently lied on the stand about tv interviews.. And he has forgotten about national interviews
1 hour ago
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Ashton asked why did he have to open the skull if it was open and clean.. Spitz is getting very defensive and raising his voice..
1 hour ago
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
He is babbling and jury is fidgeting
1 hour ago
Kathi Belich, WFTV
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Prosecutor Jeff Ashton's first question was about the manner of death usually involves other info besides medical
1 hour ago


http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)
Fixed.  Needed hyperlink.  MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: darla on June 18, 2011, 01:01:02 PM
I am so sickened by this asswipes testimony today. It was bad enough that kc duct taped Caylee and put her precious little body in trashbags and a laundry hamper, discarded her in the swamp and left her lil body for the animals and elements to destroy. Then comes along this pos and further desecrates her lil body by opening up her empty skull and breaking it. There is no pit in hell deep enough for Casey and her defense and "experts" and I use that term loosely.

I do know one thing for certain.....I am a certifiable expert on BS after the last couple of days of testimony. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 01:02:58 PM
HAAAAAA!!!
So, the crime scene tech's, Jennifer Welch(?), staged that pic??

I hope they call Jennifer back next week and Dr G..so these wonderful ladies can make sure the jury knows they did their jobs properly, with respect for the deceased..and did not then or ever stage a damn thing.

This old man is a fool, imbecile and egomanic combined....get him off that friggin stand now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 01:04:06 PM
@Aphrodite_Jones are you kidding me???? Spit made a total @ss of himself! He is a disgrace! Even the jurors were laughing at him.

BBM


https://twitter.com/#!/JustUs4Caylee (https://twitter.com/#!/JustUs4Caylee)
Fixed.  Needed hyperlink.  MB
 
Guess Ashton heard the giggles and that was his signal to stop.  Dumbfense was HAD once again.  
Schaeffer said 'This might be Spits' Swan Song'  (paraphrasing).  I agree.  Thanks to the God of truth.

 ::MonkeyAngel::    Caylee's death will not be for nothing.  We are seeing one after another of these ghouls that lie & sell their soul for fame & money knocked off.  Divine intervention at work!


 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
The other thing that stood out for me when Spitz was testifying is when Jeff asked him if he knew about the events before death and he said "you mean about giving her to the Nanny?".

The dufense has not even shared with him the new molested, drowning,Vasco,  Kronkafied theory that they are using.  Spitz is still spinning the tale of the Nanny who applied duct tape to Caylee rather than V2 of what happened according to the dufense.

My daughter walked by my computer when Mumbles was on and her reaction was "who is Mumbledore"?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Terri on June 18, 2011, 01:04:41 PM
So people now involved in defense consipiracy theory:
George
Roy K.
The guy with the wrong phone number
law enforcement
the medical examiners office.
the maggots

did I miss anyone?

The search dogs?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Magic Eyes on June 18, 2011, 01:05:29 PM
11:15am Sat, June 18, 2011 Court is in session.

Warning this is not a transcript or verbatim, it is what I could hear and type at the time.

Back from a 10 minute recess.

Defense witness is Dr. Werner Spitz is back on the stand.

Back from recess, starts with a side bar.....side bar over, jury coming in.

Jeff is up.........

Dr the medical investigation requires information outside of the medical opinion?  What were you given in this case?  I did an autopsy, I went to the crime scene, I went to the Anthony home.  In order to do an adequate manner of death, you need an entire investigation?  I understand that and I asked questions and they gave me information I asked for, I asked sufficient questions about what I think happened here.  Who did you ask?  I asked Mr Baez, Mr Mason, I spoke to the Anthony's, I don't remember who those people were.  Did you read police reports?  Yes.  Which ones?  I don't remember.  What were the facts you knew about this case besides the autopsy on the body?  I knew there was a lapse of time between the disappearance of the child and the reporting of it.  Isn't that important to evaluate?  Yes, everything has to be like a jig saw puzzle, it all needs to fit together.  You can not take one item by itself.  What is your understanding of the last time Caylee Marie Anthony was seen alive?  I know that Caylee Anthony was allegedly taken to a baby-sitter, that occurred when she was alive.  What did you use to come to the opinion that the manner of the death was undetermined?  I don't know any facts of when she was alive, I have no facts of what she was doing or what was happening to her.  Would you agree that Dr G had more info than you do?  If she knew that, I know everything that she put in her report, I do not recall any info that was not in her report. I read her report, I was totally familiar.  What did she report about Caylee being last alive?  I don't recall.  It is common to summarize in death reports?  Yes, I don't but many people do.  At the very least do you need to read the police reports do find out how this child died?  Yes.  But you just told us that you don't remember anything.  No, that is not correct.  You asked me what happened, what happened before CASEY disappeared, all I know is she was a healthy 3 year old. What do you feel was significant leading up to her death?  A pool in the yard that creates a possibility of drowning. I knew that she was missing for a month before being reported missing.  Do you recall other facts?  I don't know unless you want to remind me.  You also said the failure of Dr G to open the skull was a violation of protocol?  Yes, this child made national news and we open the head...objection didn't answer the question.  What protocol was violated?  The head was not opened to see inside the skull.  Let me say this, the skull is part of the body, when you do the autopsy, you examine the whole body, when you buy a house you buy a house with a basement, if you don't want a basement then you buy one without one but it has a dining room a kitchen.  What?  Dr what I am asking you where this protocol is published.  It is not, I just know I have been trained to do it and trained others to do it.  I made that protocol but I don't know where it is.  I have been out of the mainstream of forensic pathology for a long time.  The skull not being opened was a failure, it tells me about a shoddy autopsy, if the head was not opened it provokes me.  I am sorry I did not mean to upset you.  A skull is opened in a traditional autopsy to examine the brain?  No, that is not the only reason, each case beckons a certain examination of certain things.  I would of never have know how this head was positioned if I didn't open it.  There is also a protocol that says you must open the chest if you are going to examine the ribs?  No.  You mean you can look at the skull without opening it?  You wrote this book?  He is showing him a book.  It is a text book in forensic pathology.  I wrote most of the trauma chapters.  There are articles written by Dr. Vass and Dr. Haskell, would you say this is an authoritative treatise on death?  Will you tell me where it tells you to open a skull that has been skeletonized?  Sir this is not a book of protocols, it tells you how to interpret death.  The question is the chapter in this book that you edited, does this contain a protocol on the opening of a skeletonized skull?  It is not a book on protocol, it is a book of injuries.  It doesn't say go and open the head, it does show finding of injuries you would see if the head was opened.  Are you aware of this report on skeleton remains?  Who wrote it?  Ashton tells him many names and what it is.  He is showing the witness the report that talks about not opening skeletonized skulls.  This was written by lawyers for lawyers, written in legalese, I can't understand this document, I have never been a lawyer.  Ashton wants him to read a particular section that is not in legalese.  Ashton is showing him and asking him to read it to himself.  I have never seen this, I can tell you that.  It would be fair to say that the failure to open the skull, would you say it was just the way you would of done it?  No, this should of been done in a case of national significance, wouldn't you think that an autopsy would be required, a whole one not just below the head?  Is the fact this is a significant case to you important?  Yes, it is more important because it is a high profile case.  Are you saying that this case is more important than a less high profile case?  No, people want to know about this case but they should of known about what was in the head.  This is a national case, the head should of been opened.  How many interviews have you done concerning this case.  He says one locally and one other.  Jeff asks him about another interview.  He says that was the one he mentioned, he gave it in Detroit and it was broadcast in Orlando and the Detroit News heard that I was coming to Orlando and called me.  That was the extent of my media response in this case.  Jeff asks, you gave another interview to a female newswomen?  Yes, it was about logistics.  You don't recall giving her your theories about brain dust, about tape being applied to the skull?  I was going to watch it but I fell asleep.  Were you on 2 other national shows?  I don't remember that.  You like high profile cases,don't you?  No, every case is high profile to me and I open every skull in every case.  Were you involved in Phil Spector, OJ Simpson?  Yes.  When you opened the skull, you broke it, didn't you?  I broke it?  I didn't know I broke it.  I see the break in the skull but I didn't know I did that.  Did you test the sediment you found?  No, I scrapped the skull and kept it for possible testing and then I was told this was tested by someone else, I don't know who tested it but it found it's way to an LE lab and they tested it.  Who told you that?  I don't know.  You don't know if that is brain dust or dirt, do you?  That is the settlement of a decomposing brain, please believe me, this skull of CASEY Anthony is not the first skull I have opened and find this sediment.  Without examining it you can't tell if this is brain dust or just dirt?  No, I can tell you this is brain dust, from a decomposing brain.  Do you know the area where this body was found?  Yes, I went there.  That area has water do you not think that could be sediment from dirty water as it infiltrates the skull?  You know this sediment is so common in skeleton remains that I don't have to test it to know it is brain dust.  You don't need to bother to have the sediment examined, you know without a doubt it is brain dust?  Yes, they can analyze that but it is still my opinion.  Did you know that it was washed several times to get traces of what was in the skull?  I am aware that the ME put in saline water and swished it around and tested it.  That couldn't be where the sediment was left after the washings?  No, I determined the cause of death because of the sediment in another case, an overdose of sleeping pills.  This sediment is sticky and it stays there for a long time.  You sent that sediment for chemical analysis?  Yes, because there was someone to work with.  If I had been with Dr G, I would of had her open the skull and we could of avoided this skerfuffle.  Can you put your skull back together?  You want me to put this back together?  Yes, I want to ask you a few questions about it.  Tries to put skull back together and Jeff helps him.  Your theory is that this skull decomposed on the left side with the face slightly up?  Yes.  The brain is still intact when it starts decomposing? Yes.  The skin decomposes and the brain starts decomposing and the hair falls?  No, the hair is kinda clumped together and much of the tissue receives some of that creamy, soapy stuff so the hair would stay put on it's side.  When people come they move the hair.  So your saying the skin has completely decomposed and the brain has completely decomposed and the hair wouldn't fall?  Not from the right side, the hair falls with gravity, it doesn't fall up.  The massive hair would fall this way if it was found in this position?  No, some of it would be on the right side.  Some of the hair would stay on the back on the ground on the shrubbery.  Jeff is showing him a photo of Caylee's skull and remains.  Would you agree that the mass of hair has fallen back, not to the side, wouldn't you agree?  Sir you are looking at this picture, shows the skull like this?  She has long hair and it is sitting on the base of the skull.  The hair is glued to the bone, the hair matted itself to the skull when it was placed at that location.  You would agree that this photo shows the hair mass has fallen backwards and not to the side?  The hair in this photo speaks for itself and most of the hair is on the base of this skull.  He is showing with a paper towel and the skull how the hair would look,  he put the skull on the paper towel and wrapped the skull with the hair and showing the jury it.  Dr. the photo shows that the hair has not fallen to the back or the side?  I don't see any evidence of hair falling, maybe the water washed around it and splashed the hair to the bone, glued it to the bone.  So the water displaced the hair but it didn't displace the residue?  Yes, it seems quite likely because the hair is now here, it just can't get here.  So the hair didn't just slough off?  The hair is sticky.  Did you look at this hair?  No but I know it was sticky, it was not in a clean environment, the dried up adipocere would still be there and stick the hair to the bone.  You realize this photo does not agree with your theory because it is not on the side.  No, I don't see why it can't be, it was in water.  Your theory is that the duct tape was placed after the skull was fully skeletonized?  Yes, after the skin was decomposed through the whole process of decomp, it is looking at you, it is looking at me, there is all kinds of debris.  How did this person put duct tape on the skull?  The person had a roll of duct tape, sorry I didn't bring you duct tape, I have a roll.  They just tore off pieces and attached the lower jaw to the face with duct tape.  Your theory is that the skull was found on the left side, right?  Did the person pick up the skull on the left side?  I don't know how the duct tape was applied.  If the skull was on it's side they would have to pick up the skull, the mandible would of stayed where it was?  The person would of had to pick up the skull and then the mandible and then place it in anatomical position and then place the duct tape?  I don't know how well they replaced the mandible.  Do you recall that Dr. G. said the mandible was in anatomical position?  Yes.  He would of had to take a piece of duct tape and place it around?  I didn't see the duct tape on both sides.  If your theory is correct then the duct tape would have to hold both sides of the mandible?  You would have to attach the duct tape you would of had to done it on both sides?  Why would it take 3 pieces of duct tape to attach the mandible to the jaw if it was on both sides?  Maybe they put one piece and it didn't reach, so they put two.  There was 3 pieces of duct tape, 8 inches long. Why is there no glue residue on the skull?  There is no glue residue on my forearm when I put duct tape on my arm.  Why would there be residue on the bone?  Why isn't the duct tape still stuck to the bone?  Because of intervention of water, the water would remove the glue.  So if this person removed this skull, attached the mandible to it with 3 pieces of duct tape and put it back.  They could of taken the skull somewhere put the duct tape and then brought it back to the remains scene. Then why was the hair still stuck to the tape?  I am not sure the tape still had a stickiness to stick to the hair, the heat, the water would take away the stickiness.  Are you aware that Dr. Utz had to cut the hair to remove the tape?  Some she needed to cut, some she did not need to cut.  So this person picked up the skull, picked up the mandible, put them back in position and then put on 3 pieces of duct tape and then the strands of hair would be there? No, the strands of hair were placed over the front.  Someone in the LE or the ME Office put the strands of hair there?  Yes and it wouldn't be the first time, people sit in jail for a long time because bloody clothing is thrown away.  Is it your opinion that someone draped the hair over the face?  Yes, the photos look different because someone rearranged them.  WOW JUST WOW.  Jeff is done........

Mason is up...

You were asked if there are other reasons to open the skull, are there other reasons to open the skull?  If you look at medical literature you will find that there are inside fractures of the skull that are not apparent on the outside.  You can open a skull and find a fracture on the inside that is not on the outside.  Another one is that in certain types of death, there would be hemorrhage in the base of the skull in the area of the middle ears and areas behind the lower jaw. That didn't happen here.  How does that occur?  If you smother someone or suffocate them, it would cause discoloration on the skull.  Yes, it doesn't happen every time but it does happen.  You were asked if you sent the brain matter for chemical analysis?  I did not, I don't have a lab.  Did you later find out that the sediment was sent to a toxicologist Dr. Goldburger?  Did he find the presence of poison or chloroform?  No he did not.  Last issue Mr Ashton was asking you about the presence of duct tape, do you know how many people handled that skull?  No.  Do you know if that skull was manipulated in anyway?  Yes, because manipulated means done by man and this skull was manipulated, that is why the hair is different in the photos. The skull didn't get itself to the ME's office and put itself on the brown paper to be photographed, this picture of the hair is different than this picture of the hair, so someone manipulated it.  So someone had to do it?  Someone had to do it, yes.  Witness is excused. 12:34pm.

Judge asks attorneys to approach the side bar...sidebar over.

Judge is excusing the jury till 9:00am, Monday morning.

Judge is saying so there will be no confusion about requirements of reports.  Let's make sure that you re-read that and comply so we won't have any more hiccups.  Be ready to work next Saturday until 3:00pm.  I am not going to hurry you so we will just extend the working hours, we may extend the daily working hours till 5:30 - 6:00pm.

Court is in recess till 9:00am Monday morning.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 01:05:38 PM
Dr. Spitz testified that the skull was never moved from the position it was found. Yet other experts said animals had moved the bones around, chewing on them etc. I can see why some jurors were laughing!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 01:06:54 PM
@Aphrodite_Jones are you kidding me???? Spit made a total @ss of himself! He is a disgrace! Even the jurors were laughing at him.

BBM


https://twitter.com/#!/JustUs4Caylee
 
Guess Ashton heard the giggles and that was his signal to stop.  Dumbfense was HAD once again.  
Schaeffer said 'This might be Spits' Swan Song'  (paraphrasing).  I agree.  Thanks to the God of truth.

 ::MonkeyAngel::    Caylee's death will not be for nothing.  We are seeing one after another of these ghouls that lie & sell their soul for fame & money knocked off.  Divine intervention at work!

  



Sweet, never thought of it that way.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 01:07:05 PM
The other thing that stood out for me when Spitz was testifying is when Jeff asked him if he knew about the events before death and he said "you mean about giving her to the Nanny?".

The dufense has not even shared with him the new molested, drowning,Vasco,  Kronkafied theory that they are using.  Spitz is still spinning the tale of the Nanny who applied duct tape to Caylee rather than V2 of what happened according to the dufense.

My daughter walked by my computer when Mumbles was on and her reaction was "who is Mumbledore"?


Except the drowning theory. They must have mentioned that, because he said he "saw a pool and realized there could have been a drowning" or something to that effect. I mean, this is like saying "I saw a dog and thought maybe it mauled her." IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING. But he (the witness) also said "All pieces of the puzzle must fit". Well, how does the duct tape fit with drowning, or mauling, or even choking on food?!" He contridicted himself with that, and I hope the jury caught it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 18, 2011, 01:07:46 PM
Useless testimony.. They gave him a day pass from the home for this?

That was almost pitiful. On twitter everyone is talking about how the jurors are laughing at him. It is sad the old man gave up his soul at this late in his life for money that he may never get.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 01:08:00 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 01:08:19 PM
Dr. Spitz testified that the skull was never moved from the position it was found. Yet other experts said animals had moved the bones around, chewing on them etc. I can see why some jurors were laughing!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Icey, even Dr. Spitz acknowledge bones had been gnawed on by animals! So there ya go :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Samarie on June 18, 2011, 01:09:20 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

ITA Sunny..it brought tears to my eyes..this man has no respect for the deceased..he should not be a doctor of anything ..he didn't even act apologetic..he is not brilliant he is a complete imbecile with no heart or soul.

It is heartbreaking & he didnt even flinch at the thought that he did that to a precious child's remains.   He couldnt even say her name but referred to Caylee as "this child" or "the child" if that.  I am appalled that he took this position as early as December 2008 based on who sought him out, disgusting.   Nice way to end a career, shamefully.

Dr Spitz attended medical school from 1956- 1960, prior to med school he had to have earned a BS in biology, or a related field. This would mean Dr Spitz was born in about 1934. He stated that he had performed 1000's of autopsies throughout his career and some numbers minded monkey even calculated the the Dr would have had to have perform almost 3 autopsies a day...I haven't googled Dr Spitz...yet, I will soon though because I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Dr Spitz may have been involved in the recovery of those buried in mass graves..."this child" may have become the norm to a young Dr whose victims had no name...I'm not excusing his testimony, I'm questioning, or rather judging the defense, they had no business to make a laughing stock of a man, an aged Dr, who has probably witnessed, or at least particpated in solving some of the most horrendous crimes in recent history committed by man...against man. Many years ago I worked with Holocaust survivors, it isn't funny, no more than the death of a 3yr old little girl.  I'm not giving the Dr a pass...It'smore of a shame on you Bozo and Mumbles!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 01:12:17 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

What the hell was Aphrodite smoking this morning before she went into the courtroom.

The only reason everyone in the courtroom was watching Spitz was out of disbelief and disgust.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: _icey_ on June 18, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
Dr. Spitz testified that the skull was never moved from the position it was found. Yet other experts said animals had moved the bones around, chewing on them etc. I can see why some jurors were laughing!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Icey, even Dr. Spitz acknowledge bones had been gnawed on by animals! So there ya go :)
I guess the animals were careful not to move the skull and they ripped apart the rest of her body.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 01:16:12 PM
Dr. Spitz testified that the skull was never moved from the position it was found. Yet other experts said animals had moved the bones around, chewing on them etc. I can see why some jurors were laughing!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Icey, even Dr. Spitz acknowledge bones had been gnawed on by animals! So there ya go :)
I guess the animals were careful not to move the skull and they ripped apart the rest of her body.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Maybe they applied the duct tape in the world according to Spitz?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: mizjay on June 18, 2011, 01:16:36 PM
Useless testimony.. They gave him a day pass from the home for this?

That was almost pitiful. On twitter everyone is talking about how the jurors are laughing at him. It is sad the old man gave up his soul at this late in his life for money that he may never get.

Pitiful in the max.  That's what happens when a renowned dr. THINKS he's hitching his star to LKB and a "dream team" and ends up with a couple of unethical hacks with about 3 braincells between them.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: luvmyboys on June 18, 2011, 01:16:43 PM
I thought ashton wa saying that the skull that was broke was the skull in court room today. And did he say that skull was not caylee tha he had today. Idk just asking. Cause that is how I took it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: wreck on June 18, 2011, 01:20:05 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::
Could someone give a brief recap of what led to this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: mizjay on June 18, 2011, 01:20:06 PM
Spitz is washed up and even if the "dream team" still existed, he may have only looked slightly less imbecilic. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 01:20:28 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::

Thank U..... ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::
Slam dunk!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 01:21:09 PM
I hope someone can answer this.  If JP proceeds with comtempt proceedings, will this also leave skid marks on the record and underwear of the entire dufense team or only Bobo?  I would think (and hope) that since this is a DP case and Mumbles is the DP qualified and senior lawyer he would get the splatter from these shenanigans as well.  Wonder if he is having fun yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 01:23:38 PM
Dr. Spitz testified that the skull was never moved from the position it was found. Yet other experts said animals had moved the bones around, chewing on them etc. I can see why some jurors were laughing!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Icey, even Dr. Spitz acknowledge bones had been gnawed on by animals! So there ya go :)
I guess the animals were careful not to move the skull and they ripped apart the rest of her body.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Maybe they applied the duct tape in the world according to Spitz?

Right! Bizarre beyond belief.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: darla on June 18, 2011, 01:25:23 PM
  ::monkeyscissors:: ::monkeyscissors:: Snipped to avoid quote stack
Dr Spitz attended medical school from 1956- 1960, prior to med school he had to have earned a BS in biology, or a related field. This would mean Dr Spitz was born in about 1934. He stated that he had performed 1000's of autopsies throughout his career and some numbers minded monkey even calculated the the Dr would have had to have perform almost 3 autopsies a day...I haven't googled Dr Spitz...yet, I will soon though because I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Dr Spitz may have been involved in the recovery of those buried in mass graves..."this child" may have become the norm to a young Dr whose victims had no name...I'm not excusing his testimony, I'm questioning, or rather judging the defense, they had no business to make a laughing stock of a man, an aged Dr, who has probably witnessed, or at least particpated in solving some of the most horrendous crimes in recent history committed by man...against man. Many years ago I worked with Holocaust survivors, it isn't funny, no more than the death of a 3yr old little girl.  I'm not giving the Dr a pass...It'smore of a shame on you Bozo and Mumbles!
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Samarie, I have to respectfully disagree with you on this post. I don' think the defense team held a gun to this fools head to get him to lie on the stand.
What he has seen and witnessed in his past does not give him the right to out and out lie under oath in a court of law. This victim did have a name and it is Caylee Marie Anthony. He further desecrated Caylee's lil body when there was NO reason to, and broke her skull in the process. No apologies, would not even own up to it. He is probably the only medical examiner they could find who would lie for them. I have no sympathy for his arrogant ass. He should have quit 40 yrs ago. Just another paid media whore. I do agree Mason and Bozo are slime but I don't hold them responsible for him getting fried on the stand. He got just what he deserved and Mumbles and Bumbles did too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 01:25:32 PM
I hope someone can answer this.  If JP proceeds with comtempt proceedings, will this also leave skid marks on the record and underwear of the entire dufense team or only Bobo?  I would think (and hope) that since this is a DP case and Mumbles is the DP qualified and senior lawyer he would get the splatter from these shenanigans as well.  Wonder if he is having fun yet?

I don't know the answer; but I'm hoping CM will get the "splatter" as you say. He should end his career like this and be depressed the rest of his life with this disgrace, for allowing Baez to get go so far and for seemingly participating in it himself!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 01:25:46 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::
Could someone give a brief recap of what led to this?

First witness testified to opinions NOT in his written report which went directly against the court order stating all witnesses must do full reports on anything opinions they will testify to.  It was in regards to debunking the duct tape video and he had discussions with Bobo after that witness in the past few days about what he would say to prove it was not a reliable video.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 01:27:20 PM
Does any Monkey know if any defense witnesses have backed out of testifying after seeing this circus?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 01:28:05 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::
Could someone give a brief recap of what led to this?


Start around 11:00, a bit after I believe.
http://www.wftv.com/video/28280973/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 01:29:55 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/28280462/detail.html
 ::snipping2::
Rodriguez said it would be impossible to determine the exact position of duct tape on a corpse. Because tape loses its stickiness, it may have shifted, and animals could have come into contact with the body.

Then, Chief Judge Belvin Perry threatened contempt of court against Baez for intentionally violating the court's order for trying to get a witness to give opinions that weren't previously disclosed.

Perry told the state and the defense that both sides have taken part in game playing. He said, "this is not a game."

"It appears to me that this was quite intentional. This was not some inadvertent slip. It was not inadvertent. The question is whether Ms. Anthony should be punished because of this," said Perry.

"This is what we are going to do. We are going to stop today at 1 'o clock. This witness is going to step down and you are going to take his deposition this afternoon," said Perry.

He said Rodriguez would testify next week. Perry said, "Mr. Baez, this is not my first rodeo."

Perry said he will reserve ruling on Baez's violation. He then dismissed Rodriguez for the day, telling the jury they will take another witness.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 01:32:46 PM
I hope someone can answer this.  If JP proceeds with comtempt proceedings, will this also leave skid marks on the record and underwear of the entire dufense team or only Bobo?  I would think (and hope) that since this is a DP case and Mumbles is the DP qualified and senior lawyer he would get the splatter from these shenanigans as well.  Wonder if he is having fun yet?
I have no idea what the legal answer is, but since CJBP referred to Baez specifically, I think it's him alone. And of course we know Mason will claim ignorance to the situation.   But it would be nice to have him held accountable for these tactics, many I'm sure came from him.  jmoo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 18, 2011, 01:33:30 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

ITA Sunny..it brought tears to my eyes..this man has no respect for the deceased..he should not be a doctor of anything ..he didn't even act apologetic..he is not brilliant he is a complete imbecile with no heart or soul.

It is heartbreaking & he didnt even flinch at the thought that he did that to a precious child's remains.   He couldnt even say her name but referred to Caylee as "this child" or "the child" if that.  I am appalled that he took this position as early as December 2008 based on who sought him out, disgusting.   Nice way to end a career, shamefully.

Dr Spitz attended medical school from 1956- 1960, prior to med school he had to have earned a BS in biology, or a related field. This would mean Dr Spitz was born in about 1934. He stated that he had performed 1000's of autopsies throughout his career and some numbers minded monkey even calculated the the Dr would have had to have perform almost 3 autopsies a day...I haven't googled Dr Spitz...yet, I will soon though because I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Dr Spitz may have been involved in the recovery of those buried in mass graves..."this child" may have become the norm to a young Dr whose victims had no name...I'm not excusing his testimony, I'm questioning, or rather judging the defense, they had no business to make a laughing stock of a man, an aged Dr, who has probably witnessed, or at least particpated in solving some of the most horrendous crimes in recent history committed by man...against man. Many years ago I worked with Holocaust survivors, it isn't funny, no more than the death of a 3yr old little girl.  I'm not giving the Dr a pass...It'smore of a shame on you Bozo and Mumbles!

Samarie..I love ya, but you are wrong about Dr Spitz.

When you goggle him you will find he was an explosive expert witness in the Phil Spector trial.

He was a medical examiner in Michigan and called a homicide a suicide..yep didn't take the time to examine the crime scene..didn't take the time during an autopsy to figure out the man was shot twice..no suicide..homicide..and he missed it.

He has never been anything but a self promoting, less then credible medical examiner expert witness.  What you saw today is what he has always been..an egomanic, less then average medical examiner that became a self promoting media whore to make money during these trials for his expert opinion both on the stand  and in the press.

Look him up..this is parr for the course with this old turkey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 01:45:42 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

ITA Sunny..it brought tears to my eyes..this man has no respect for the deceased..he should not be a doctor of anything ..he didn't even act apologetic..he is not brilliant he is a complete imbecile with no heart or soul.

It is heartbreaking & he didnt even flinch at the thought that he did that to a precious child's remains.   He couldnt even say her name but referred to Caylee as "this child" or "the child" if that.  I am appalled that he took this position as early as December 2008 based on who sought him out, disgusting.   Nice way to end a career, shamefully.

Dr Spitz attended medical school from 1956- 1960, prior to med school he had to have earned a BS in biology, or a related field. This would mean Dr Spitz was born in about 1934. He stated that he had performed 1000's of autopsies throughout his career and some numbers minded monkey even calculated the the Dr would have had to have perform almost 3 autopsies a day...I haven't googled Dr Spitz...yet, I will soon though because I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Dr Spitz may have been involved in the recovery of those buried in mass graves..."this child" may have become the norm to a young Dr whose victims had no name...I'm not excusing his testimony, I'm questioning, or rather judging the defense, they had no business to make a laughing stock of a man, an aged Dr, who has probably witnessed, or at least particpated in solving some of the most horrendous crimes in recent history committed by man...against man. Many years ago I worked with Holocaust survivors, it isn't funny, no more than the death of a 3yr old little girl.  I'm not giving the Dr a pass...It'smore of a shame on you Bozo and Mumbles!

Samarie..I love ya, but you are wrong about Dr Spitz.

When you goggle him you will find he was an explosive expert witness in the Phil Spector trial.

He was a medical examiner in Michigan and called a homicide a suicide..yep didn't take the time to examine the crime scene..didn't take the time during an autopsy to figure out the man was shot twice..no suicide..homicide..and he missed it.

He has never been anything but a self promoting, less then credible medical examiner expert witness.  What you saw today is what he has always been..an egomanic, less then average medical examiner that became a self promoting media whore to make money during these trials for his expert opinion both on the stand  and in the press.

Look him up..this is parr for the course with this old turkey.

I totally agree with you DD......
The only thing I can come up with these kind of defense witness's  have to be numb when it comes to dead people.  jmo
Money talks......
 ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 01:55:04 PM
I am wondering if the jury got the notion that Dr.  Spitz may have been astounding during his prime, but his best before date has lapsed and so has his integrity and intelligence?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 01:56:33 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20503784,00.html
Casey Anthony Trial: Defense Expert Calls Autopsy 'Shoddy'
By Steve Helling
Saturday June 18, 2011 01:35 PM EDT

A defense forensic expert told the jury in the Casey Anthony murder trial that he believed little Caylee Anthony's body had been moved by an unknown person after it decomposed.
Dr. Warner Spitz, a former medical examiner who consulted on the investigation into John F. Kennedy's assassination and more recently the O.J. Simpson and Phil Spector cases, also criticized the celebrity coroner in the Anthony case, calling her work "shoddy
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 01:58:17 PM
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wbfo/news.newsmain/article/0/0/1817252/US/Expert%27s.skull.prop.brings.Casey.Anthony.to.tears
Expert's skull prop brings Casey Anthony to tears
(2011-06-18)
(Reuters) -
By Jennifer Greenhill-Taylor

ORLANDO, Fla (Reuters) - An internationally known forensic pathologist placed a stark, white human skull on the witness stand during Casey Anthony's murder trial on Saturday, bringing the defendant to tears.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 18, 2011, 01:59:40 PM
OMG did they have to escort this Dr. Spitz here from a nursing home?  ::MonkeyShocked::

I think they brought him in an ambulance to court.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 02:01:24 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/265206/Day-22:-Judge-threatens-Casey-Anthonys-lawyer-with-contempt
Day 22: Judge threatens Casey Anthony's lawyer with contempt
(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/jose-baez-2-0617.jpg)
Judge Belvin Perry has dismissed an expert defense witness, accusing Casey Anthony's attorney of intentionally violating a court order to have experts declare their opinions. FULL STORY http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/265206/Day-22:-Judge-threatens-Casey-Anthonys-lawyer-with-contempt


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 02:01:50 PM
What is he going to say that the significance of this is ... the brain material?

Sorry to be flip but will he testify that there was pool water present? I find it impossible to believe thta Dr. G would not have done a procedure during an autopsy if it was required and neccessary.

I have no idea where he is going with this? HELP.

That is exactly what I'm wondering. I think this guy does come across as credible. So, I hope Ashton and discredit his testimony. Don't throw bananas...I'm speaking from a position of trying to pretend I don't know anything about this case, as if I were a juror...listening with fresh ears. So, what can he say?


He is such a liar for hire it is scary, but IMO he always shows his true bias and just look at his list of high profile cases he offered crazy opinions on for the murderer always....why is that, of course it is due to the almight dollar. I watched him in the PS trial state he had NEVER seen a intra-oral gun shot wound that wasn't a homicide, I was able to find 5 in 10 minutes...also when asked about the $$ aspect he flipped out. He testified for OJ, Scott P and Casey (nuff said).....I will post more about him and Baden in the break room if anyone is interested in what I dug up on them yrs ago. I do hope the judge gives an instruction to the jury on him considering what he did in the interview with Tony P railing on Dr. G, they were going to give an instruction similar on Dr. Henry Lee in the PS trial, but he never showed up to testify as he got lost in China LOL. The experts Bozo has brought in are the same scum that testified in that trial so of course we know it's all about money and high profile cases.......absolute whores who care nothing about justice just padding their pocket and 15 minutes of infamy ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 18, 2011, 02:02:12 PM
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wbfo/news.newsmain/article/0/0/1817252/US/Expert%27s.skull.prop.brings.Casey.Anthony.to.tears
Expert's skull prop brings Casey Anthony to tears
(2011-06-18)
(Reuters) -
By Jennifer Greenhill-Taylor

ORLANDO, Fla (Reuters) - An internationally known forensic pathologist placed a stark, white human skull on the witness stand during Casey Anthony's murder trial on Saturday, bringing the defendant to tears.
 ::snipping2::

She needs to put on some more fake tears - but they are only for her because she is going down and she knows it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 18, 2011, 02:03:41 PM
I would have listened to Dr. Spitz if I was on the jury. I have heard of him and he did have a good reputation. Seems past his prime in his present state today.
Most of these jurors are younger than me and probaly never heard of the man. If they were laughing during his testimony, then they weren't viewing him as credible. He wasn't riding on his own past coattails.
I didn't see his entire testimony, but when he left the stand he didn't seem to know where to go and Cheney Mason had to help him out.
..
Unless he had a viable theory as to how the manidble was found with the rest of the skull
after Hurricane Faye and the animal acitivty unless the duct tape held it in place, then anything he had to say today was useless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 02:07:15 PM
he did a very scientific experiment....  putting duct tape on his skin, and ripping out his arm hair.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  how much did Bozo pay for that bit of science?

He stated in the Tony P interview (which everyone should watch and see what a senile fool he really is) that he hadn't billed anyone YET and that he couldn't remember if he had signed a contract.....ummm, whatever. I do remember trying to understand him as his accent is so hard to get past and same thing with Dr. Lee, neither can be understood clearly and both are LFH (liars for hire)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 18, 2011, 02:10:58 PM
anthonycase WOFL
Juror 11 taking lots of notes. #fox35 #caseyanthony

http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase (http://twitter.com/#!/anthonycase)

What in the world would anyone be taking notes for?  There are no facts in what this blowhart states....
My hope is that they are noting how this witness doesn't know the facts of the case and how angry he is getting so they can point it out during deliberations. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 02:18:13 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein (http://twitter.com/#!/JimLichtenstein)

JimLichtenstein Jim Lichtenstein
I'm not gonna lie. The thought of this guy putting on rubber gloves and walking toward me, even if I'm dead, kinda scares me. #caseyanthony
6 minutes ago

LMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 02:20:22 PM
OMG did they have to escort this Dr. Spitz here from a nursing home?  ::MonkeyShocked::

I think they brought him in an ambulance to court.

This is too funny, in Dr. S's day....
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/3907/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 02:22:03 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/06/casey-anthony-dr-werner-spitz-takes-some-big-hits.html
Casey Anthony: Dr. Werner Spitz takes some big hits
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Dr. G: Medical Examiner, Dr. Jan Garavaglia, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on June, 18 2011 1:43 PM

(http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/files/2011/06/spitz-300x175.jpg)
Dr. Werner Spitz testified today at the Casey Anthony trial. Photo credit: Red Huber/Orlando Sentinel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 02:24:52 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

What was the kerfuffling about anyway?  Or are just trying to start a kerfuffle?  LMAO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Jesse on June 18, 2011, 02:27:29 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/06/casey-anthony-dr-werner-spitz-takes-some-big-hits.html
Casey Anthony: Dr. Werner Spitz takes some big hits
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Dr. G: Medical Examiner, Dr. Jan Garavaglia, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on June, 18 2011 1:43 PM

(http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/files/2011/06/spitz-300x175.jpg)
Dr. Werner Spitz testified today at the Casey Anthony trial. Photo credit: Red Huber/Orlando Sentinel

he looks like he is talking to the skull


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 02:28:09 PM
IMO Werner Spitz is willing to bend the truth a bit.  It is he who was solely responsible for Andrea Yates winning her appeal after she was convicted of first degree murder.  Spitz testified that Yeats had seen a documentary concerning women who drown their children which was shown a week or so before she killed her own children.  He said he knew this because he had participated in producing the documentary.  There was a slight problem.  The documentary had not been shown prior to Yeats drowning her children.  Her appeal was based and won on that and some other things, but it was that misrepresentation which got her a second trial at which she was found not guilty by reason of insanity. 

I have no respect for these "Hired guns" like Spitz and Lee.  Any story will do so long as the pay is good enough.  IMO we're seeing a demonstration of that principle right now.  After all, LKB was said to have told that so-called witness yesterday that there was no money now, but there would be money later.  Books? Movies? TV shows? TV series?

On that NBC show last night, most of which I didn't watch, Dateline, whatever, she appeared at the end sitting on a stool wearing some kind of orange sweater pulled over her butt.  This woman should not wear orange pulled over her butt.  In fact, she needs to call Nutrasystem or Weightwatchers at once.  I wonder while they were doing her face, they didn't tackle that ample rear with their liposuction apparatus.

That wasn't Spitz......although I would put nothing past him, that was Park Dietz.....damn, never realized how close their last names were until you mentioned Spitz.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 02:32:59 PM
Bill Shaeffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::justice2NJ::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281980/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 02:33:33 PM
I hope someone can answer this.  If JP proceeds with comtempt proceedings, will this also leave skid marks on the record and underwear of the entire dufense team or only Bobo?  I would think (and hope) that since this is a DP case and Mumbles is the DP qualified and senior lawyer he would get the splatter from these shenanigans as well.  Wonder if he is having fun yet?
I wish kathi would ask him that  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 02:40:30 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

What was the kerfuffling about anyway?  Or are just trying to start a kerfuffle?  LMAO!
Jeff used it later on while grilling Spitz. I have to admit that I had to look it up, not easy without knowing how to spell it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 02:41:39 PM
Dr Werner Spitz has a God Complex now, doesn't he?

Has for a long time.....thus the tantrum where he flipped out when Alan Jackson questioned him, and Jeff reminds me of Alan, both don't take BS and have no problem going for the jugular and shredding a witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 02:42:07 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::
Could someone give a brief recap of what led to this?

Defense first witness Dr. Rodriguez didn't get very far into his testimony before Mr. Ashton objected and it was revealed that the report that should have contained ALL opinions he would give in his testimony were not included.  He was removed from the stand for deposition this afternoon and will testify on Monday.

You really need to watch the first videos from this morning.   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 02:43:41 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::
Could someone give a brief recap of what led to this?

First witness testified to opinions NOT in his written report which went directly against the court order stating all witnesses must do full reports on anything opinions they will testify to.  It was in regards to debunking the duct tape video and he had discussions with Bobo after that witness in the past few days about what he would say to prove it was not a reliable video.

Thanks Northern Rose, I didn't see your response before I responded.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 02:44:09 PM
Bill Shaeffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::justice2NJ::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281980/index.html

Fowarding Bill, so no one miss's him     ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 02:48:26 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

What was the kerfuffling about anyway?  Or are just trying to start a kerfuffle?  LMAO!
Jeff used it later on while grilling Spitz. I have to admit that I had to look it up, not easy without knowing how to spell it.

Dr. Spitz used it first. He was beamoaning Dr. G not letting him do the autopsy with her. He said if she would have let him do it with her there wouldn't be this "kerfuffle" now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 18, 2011, 02:50:18 PM
Dr. Spitz=Ludwig Von Drake
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff95/shamlin1/ludwigvondrake.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 02:51:32 PM
Bill Shaeffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::justice2NJ::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281980/index.html

Fowarding Bill, so no one miss's him     ::justice2NJ::

More proof Aphrodite Jones was drinking the kool-aid!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 02:52:09 PM
Dr. Spitz=Ludwig Von Drake
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff95/shamlin1/ludwigvondrake.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::btw is that kc VonDrake is pointing to? ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 18, 2011, 02:53:29 PM
Dr. Spitz=Ludwig Von Drake
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff95/shamlin1/ludwigvondrake.jpg)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::btw is that kc VonDrake is pointing to? ::MonkeyHaHa::
Yes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 02:53:49 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

What was the kerfuffling about anyway?  Or are just trying to start a kerfuffle?  LMAO!
Jeff used it later on while grilling Spitz. I have to admit that I had to look it up, not easy without knowing how to spell it.

Dr. Spitz used it first. He was beamoaning Dr. G not letting him do the autopsy with her. He said if she would have let him do it with her there wouldn't be this "kerfuffle" now.
Thanks, I should have guessed it was a word usedby older peoplelike Spitz.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 02:54:05 PM
Dr Werner Spitz has a God Complex now, doesn't he?

Has for a long time.....thus the tantrum where he flipped out when Alan Jackson questioned him, and Jeff reminds me of Alan, both don't take BS and have no problem going for the jugular and shredding a witness.
I so totally agree with you .. it was a masterful cross in both trials


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: tupelohoney on June 18, 2011, 02:54:38 PM
 When JA was questioning Spitz on him liking high profile case....Were you involved in the Phil Spector case? Yes. Were you involved in the OJ case. Yes. Were you involved in the Menendez brother's case? No. I loved it when Mr. Ashton then says.....Didn't get that one?    ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281844/index.html         at 4:27 in



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

What was the kerfuffling about anyway?  Or are just trying to start a kerfuffle?  LMAO!
Jeff used it later on while grilling Spitz. I have to admit that I had to look it up, not easy without knowing how to spell it.

Dr. Spitz used it first. He was beamoaning Dr. G not letting him do the autopsy with her. He said if she would have let him do it with her there wouldn't be this "kerfuffle" now.
Thanks, I should have guessed it was a word usedby older peoplelike Spitz.

LOL.  I know, right!? Hahaha


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 02:58:01 PM
Bill Shaeffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::justice2NJ::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281980/index.html
::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
I love listening to Bill Schaeffer!! He is intelligent, is careful yet honest how he says things. He is also one of the legal guests on with NG who she is very RESPECTFUL to


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 03:00:32 PM
pool and margarita time, see y'all later on!!  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 03:03:14 PM
Bill Shaeffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::justice2NJ::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281980/index.html
::MonkeyDance::
Worth watching just to hear that Bill remembers seeing Spitz on television while he(Bill) was a child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 03:05:17 PM
When JA was questioning Spitz on him liking high profile case....Were you involved in the Phil Spector case? Yes. Were you involved in the OJ case. Yes. Were you involved in the Menendez brother's case? No. I loved it when Mr. Ashton then says.....Didn't get that one?    ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281844/index.html         at 4:27 in



IIRC he was also involved in Scott P's trial and pizzed that he couldn't be in on the autopsy, I will verify and post in the break room.....crazy old fool, thank God his son so far has not followed his dad's path of cashing in on cases where everyone knows the defendant IS a cold heartless murderer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 03:07:25 PM

I see the first known use of the word kerfuffle was in 1946. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Spitz takes credit for inventing it! Hahaha

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 03:08:36 PM
I am at like page 24ish or something and I realize I have not watched the video yet, but I gotta say, if this was not about a dead baby, this would be hysterical. 

So sad that all the jokers line up to save a baby killer.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 03:09:20 PM

Quote from: alagary on June 18, 2011, 12:56:08 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

I see the first known use of the word kerfuffle was in 1946. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Spitz takes credit for inventing it! Hahaha

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle

edited to fix quotes. Sorry.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 03:13:24 PM

Quote from: alagary on June 18, 2011, 12:56:08 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

I see the first known use of the word kerfuffle was in 1946. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Spitz takes credit for inventing it! Hahaha

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle

edited to fix quotes. Sorry.
Glad you did. Only had 2 beers and was wondering when the heck I posted that .  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 03:17:20 PM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
Spitz believes tape was placed to keep jaw in place - post mortem.

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)

 ::MonkeyEek::  For what purpose?????????????????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Anna on June 18, 2011, 03:18:53 PM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
Spitz believes tape was placed to keep jaw in place - post mortem.

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)

 ::MonkeyEek::  For what purpose?????????????????


Right!  Since when does anyone do such a thing?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 03:24:35 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20503784,00.html
Casey Anthony Trial: Defense Expert Calls Autopsy 'Shoddy'
By Steve Helling
Saturday June 18, 2011 01:35 PM EDT

A defense forensic expert told the jury in the Casey Anthony murder trial that he believed little Caylee Anthony's body had been moved by an unknown person after it decomposed.
Dr. Warner Spitz, a former medical examiner who consulted on the investigation into John F. Kennedy's assassination and more recently the O.J. Simpson and Phil Spector cases, also criticized the celebrity coroner in the Anthony case, calling her work "shoddy
 ::snipping2::

After Prosecutor Jeff Ashton was thru with Dr. Warner Spitz it was Spitz that was shown to be shoddy. How many times during the cross did Spitz say he did not know, he could not remember and he had no idea? Spitz was not even clear if he knew the specifics of the circumstances of Caylee's disappearance. During direct he kept confusing the names Casey and Caylee, not being able to differentiate between the two.

Spitz could also not remember how many interviews he did on the case. In an attempt not to look like a media whore, he basically lied on the witness stand and used the BS excuse, he could not remember. He actually stated that he did not remember an interview he did last week. Nice credibility.

In his testimony he basically stated that this case was high profile and should have had things done in it that would not be done in a lesser case. Spitz is enamored with high profile cases ... he is the Gloria Alrred of forensic ME's.

He was made to look like a babbling fool by days end with conspratorial plots that would make us believe that Lee harvy Oslwald took Caylee at the grassy knoll on Suburban dr and used duct tape after she had decomposed.

Yet another disasterous expert witness for the defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: CJLove23 on June 18, 2011, 03:29:01 PM
When JA was questioning Spitz on him liking high profile case....Were you involved in the Phil Spector case? Yes. Were you involved in the OJ case. Yes. Were you involved in the Menendez brother's case? No. I loved it when Mr. Ashton then says.....Didn't get that one?    ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281844/index.html         at 4:27 in



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOVE Ashton!!! He gets a little emotional sometimes but he deeply cares about this case! Love him!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 03:30:32 PM
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/beth1970b/mortimerbaez1.jpg)

I knew he reminded me of someone - mortimer mouse! (Mickey's nemesis)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 03:30:41 PM

Quote from: alagary on June 18, 2011, 12:56:08 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

I see the first known use of the word kerfuffle was in 1946. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Spitz takes credit for inventing it! Hahaha

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle

edited to fix quotes. Sorry.
Glad you did. Only had 2 beers and was wondering when the heck I posted that .  ::MonkeyHaHa::

IDK but I am still laughing about it;the word.  And thinking of ways to incorporate it into everyday conversations to see who goes for it.  lol.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 03:37:04 PM

Quote from: alagary on June 18, 2011, 12:56:08 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

I see the first known use of the word kerfuffle was in 1946. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Spitz takes credit for inventing it! Hahaha

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle

edited to fix quotes. Sorry.
Glad you did. Only had 2 beers and was wondering when the heck I posted that .  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I wish I could say I'd had some beers as my excuse for posting it with the quotes wrong. Alas, it was just my silly excitement! LOL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 03:39:06 PM
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/beth1970b/mortimerbaez1.jpg)

I knew he reminded me of someone - mortimer mouse! (Mickey's nemesis)

Oh my! The likenesss is uncanny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 03:40:13 PM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
Spitz believes tape was placed to keep jaw in place - post mortem.

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)

 ::MonkeyEek::  For what purpose?????????????????


Right!  Since when does anyone do such a thing?

You think Dr. S. was playing Potato Head?
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 03:40:32 PM

Quote from: alagary on June 18, 2011, 12:56:08 PM
I challenge any monkey to show where in another trial the wor "kerfuffle" was used.

I see the first known use of the word kerfuffle was in 1946. I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Spitz takes credit for inventing it! Hahaha

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle

edited to fix quotes. Sorry.
Glad you did. Only had 2 beers and was wondering when the heck I posted that .  ::MonkeyHaHa::

IDK but I am still laughing about it;the word.  And thinking of ways to incorporate it into everyday conversations to see who goes for it.  lol.   

Oh me, too!!! I am actually hoping my 6-year-old throws a tantrum today so I can ask what all the kerfuffle is about! ROTFL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 03:45:15 PM
question;  Is there an official report with a 4th piece of duct tape being found near the body or did I misunderstand that part?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 03:47:03 PM
Red - Great Summary.  Jeff didn't need to go any further than he did today. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 03:47:19 PM

KCJackie  Fantastic photos today!!  You ROCK!!   Thank you!

 ::MonkeyWink:: YVW!

DITTO DITTO DITTO!!!  I had to walk away after that display(s) this morning. Rodriguez took the stand with an agenda right off the bat stating he was an unpaid consultant and it went down hill from there until Jeff once again brought some sanity to this circus!!  I am mentally in a much better place after taking some time away from the madness!! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 03:48:46 PM
Jose & Mason should hang their heads in shame.
This show's what idiot morons they are.   ::piggy::

They knew Dr. S. is getting really to old and would be slaughtered on the stand, making him look like a fool.
They knew his memory not at all good.
That's what happens when you get old, the golden years.... ::MonkeyEek::

 ::boxingjeffbaez::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 03:52:25 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
One juror is laughing at Dr. Spitz's theory about someone putting duct tape on the skull

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

LOL

Almost caught up. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 03:55:53 PM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
Spitz believes tape was placed to keep jaw in place - post mortem.

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)

 ::MonkeyEek::  For what purpose?????????????????


Right!  Since when does anyone do such a thing?
I thought that would only happen in Arooba with donkeys but guess it is a Florida thing now too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
I am at least 10 pages behind..if this has already been discussed....sorry!!  I wondered what the sequestration issue was about...

Mike DeForest - Local 6
Sequestration issue involved possibility Spitz saw Dr G's testimony while doing Local 6 TV interview. State agrees he didn't. #CaseyAnthony

https://www.facebook.com/#!/MikeDeForestLocal6


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 03:59:39 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

huh?????  what is she smoking :smt075


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 03:59:43 PM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
Spitz believes tape was placed to keep jaw in place - post mortem.

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)

 ::MonkeyEek::  For what purpose?????????????????


Right!  Since when does anyone do such a thing?
I thought that would only happen in Arooba with donkeys but guess it is a Florida thing now too.
I absolutely do not want to know what you're talking about ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 03:59:52 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

??????

She crazy??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 18, 2011, 04:00:09 PM
Bill Shaeffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::justice2NJ::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281980/index.html

This is an awesome analysis.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 04:03:01 PM
As I was catching up this is what came to mind as I was watching Baez make a fool out of himself yet again

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58784740@N02/5845845305/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 04:03:26 PM
Mr. Ashton was absolutely brilliant.  One lawyer is going to come out of this trial famous for his professional work.  It ain't Baez or the Kentucky Colonel.

I must also add that Linda has been brilliant as well. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

ITA Sunny..it brought tears to my eyes..this man has no respect for the deceased..he should not be a doctor of anything ..he didn't even act apologetic..he is not brilliant he is a complete imbecile with no heart or soul.

I am pretty tough and not too emotional but for some reason I felt that deep down....such disrespect from a man who vowed to do no harm......many years ago. This case will be what he is remembered for.........not the greatest memory IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
As I was catching up this is what came to mind as I was watching Baez make a fool out of himself yet again

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58784740@N02/5845845305/

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: Oh, that's good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 18, 2011, 04:09:30 PM
Mr. Ashton was absolutely brilliant.  One lawyer is going to come out of this trial famous for his professional work.  It ain't Baez or the Kentucky Colonel.

I must also add that Linda has been brilliant as well.  

I think bozo "MIGHT" have had a much better chance of getting her acquitted or at least a mistrial if he had just said "The defense rests because there is no credible evidence here and the prosecution has not proved their case."  I am not sure that wasn't the route mumbles wanted to take and bozo overruled him so he could get face time.

Now, he is locked into an insane theory which can only be given any credence if he puts KC on the stand. My personal opinion is Linda and Ashton are chomping at the bit to have that to happen. I think they would both take turns destroying her and because she hates women so she most likely would show her true colors at her. Ashton has a way of destroying witnesses in a back door way and Linda is an upfront questioner so between the two of them she would lose it right there in that courtroom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 04:10:09 PM
I am so sickened by this asswipes testimony today. It was bad enough that kc duct taped Caylee and put her precious little body in trashbags and a laundry hamper, discarded her in the swamp and left her lil body for the animals and elements to destroy. Then comes along this pos and further desecrates her lil body by opening up her empty skull and breaking it. There is no pit in hell deep enough for Casey and her defense and "experts" and I use that term loosely.

I do know one thing for certain.....I am a certifiable expert on BS after the last couple of days of testimony. ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 04:13:11 PM
HAAAAAA!!!
So, the crime scene tech's, Jennifer Welch(?), staged that pic??

I hope they call Jennifer back next week and Dr G..so these wonderful ladies can make sure the jury knows they did their jobs properly, with respect for the deceased..and did not then or ever stage a damn thing.

This old man is a fool, imbecile and egomanic combined....get him off that friggin stand now!

what if the state didn't have knowledgeable, dedicated attorneys like Caylee's team?  That old fart might have been believed. I know one thing he sure didn't make any points saying Dr. G's autopsy was SHODDY....Floridians love and respect Dr. G. I am not a Floridian but I have a great deal of respect for her. She knew this case was high profile and there in no way she made any mistakes....I'd bet on it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 18, 2011, 04:13:42 PM
After this trial over with no matter what ICA gets for her punishment Jose Baez will never work in Orlando again.  If he does stay there and try to practice he will be the laughing stock of the town and no one in their right mind will ever hire him. 
I think Mason will be retiring after this case is over.  I think he just took the case for the notoriety.  He is a fool too for his role in this trial. 

All the rest of the defense and their witnesses, etc.  should all be ashamed of themselves for their role in this trial.  It seems to me that none of them realize that this is about a precious little angel that was murdered by her mother. 

I realize the ICA in entitled to a fair trial and I agree with that.  But the behavior by the whole defense team makes me sick to my stomach.  Lay out your case in a professional manner and let the chips fall where they may. 

Oh and a note to GA and CA if they read here.  Although I am sad that you lost your granddaughter and your daughter may get the DP the way you behaved is the reason for the public treating you the way they have and are doing again.  Do the right thing and tell the truth for Caylee.   Remember your granddaughter who you cried on the stand about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 04:14:45 PM
I am not sure of the job title of the red haired lady that sits in front of JP. Watch a little of the section where bozo is getting his azz chewed. Two words from Hizzoner and she would light into the Dt light a rabid pitbull..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 18, 2011, 04:14:53 PM
I am so sickened by this asswipes testimony today. It was bad enough that kc duct taped Caylee and put her precious little body in trashbags and a laundry hamper, discarded her in the swamp and left her lil body for the animals and elements to destroy. Then comes along this pos and further desecrates her lil body by opening up her empty skull and breaking it. There is no pit in hell deep enough for Casey and her defense and "experts" and I use that term loosely.

I do know one thing for certain.....I am a certifiable expert on BS after the last couple of days of testimony. ::MonkeyMad::

I wonder how the Anthonys felt when they heard he BROKE her little skull after everyone else had been so careful with it so it could stay intact. That had to be a deliberate action as skulls are NOT that easy to break. In the Anthropology lab for the Body Farm there are hundreds of skulls which have been handled by hundreds of people and none of them ever broke. It really hacks me off to think he did that to "throw" a case.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
I thought LKB was rejoining the team today? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 04:17:39 PM
After this trial over with no matter what ICA gets for her punishment Jose Baez will never work in Orlando again.  If he does stay there and try to practice he will be the laughing stock of the town and no one in their right mind will ever hire him. 
I think Mason will be retiring after this case is over.  I think he just took the case for the notoriety.  He is a fool too for his role in this trial. 

All the rest of the defense and their witnesses, etc.  should all be ashamed of themselves for their role in this trial.  It seems to me that none of them realize that this is about a precious little angel that was murdered by her mother. 

I realize the ICA in entitled to a fair trial and I agree with that.  But the behavior by the whole defense team makes me sick to my stomach.  Lay out your case in a professional manner and let the chips fall where they may. 

Oh and a note to GA and CA if they read here.  Although I am sad that you lost your granddaughter and your daughter may get the DP the way you behaved is the reason for the public treating you the way they have and are doing again.  Do the right thing and tell the truth for Caylee.   Remember your granddaughter who you cried on the stand about.

Not just Orlando...this case is, as Dr. Spitz kept pointing out, of national interest. *If* Baez dosen't get disbarred, he will have to work at some thieving corporation or something, where he's out of public sight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 04:18:39 PM
I thought LKB was rejoining the team today? 

Oooooo, where'd you hear this?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: mizjay on June 18, 2011, 04:21:12 PM
Mr. Ashton was absolutely brilliant.  One lawyer is going to come out of this trial famous for his professional work.  It ain't Baez or the Kentucky Colonel.

I must also add that Linda has been brilliant as well.  

I think bozo "MIGHT" have had a much better chance of getting her acquitted or at least a mistrial if he had just said "The defense rests because there is no credible evidence here and the prosecution has not proved their case."  I am not sure that wasn't the route mumbles wanted to take and bozo overruled him so he could get face time.

Now, he is locked into an insane theory which can only be given any credence if he puts KC on the stand. My personal opinion is Linda and Ashton are chomping at the bit to have that to happen. I think they would both take turns destroying her and because she hates women so she most likely would show her true colors at her. Ashton has a way of destroying witnesses in a back door way and Linda is an upfront questioner so between the two of them she would lose it right there in that courtroom.

Good post Turbo and spot on about LDB and JA...
Baez is getting shot down right and left, his ego is getting bruised, he got a public spank this morning, he just bristles at being corrected or forced to comply. I think he'll get angry enough to send his *star* player. If anybody knows, he knows, casey is a liars liar. He might get so mad that he knows she's the last chance to make him look good....it won't work for the reasons you stated above but it will be the show to see!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 18, 2011, 04:22:34 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::

I HOPE JP follows up on this......I understand  he is doing everything to protect against a successful appeal.....but by doing so JB continually gets a free pass..it has happened time and time again.....does it ever end? Or does he continue to get a free pass?  For me the answer to my question will be, for me,  if the State submits an instruction to the jury and if JP reads it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 04:23:43 PM
I thought LKB was rejoining the team today? 

Oooooo, where'd you hear this?  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think there was a little mistake last night when someone was talking about dates for bugboy being hired and then it was linked to an old WS tread that mentioned her joining the defense.WS dates the comments in tiny little numbers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 04:24:11 PM
I thought LKB was rejoining the team today? 

Oooooo, where'd you hear this?  ::MonkeyShocked::

On yesterday's thread, end of day, around page 100 or so. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 04:25:05 PM
I thought LKB was rejoining the team today? 

Oooooo, where'd you hear this?  ::MonkeyShocked::
I think there was a little mistake last night when someone was talking about dates for bugboy being hired and then it was linked to an old WS tread that mentioned her joining the defense.WS dates the comments in tiny little numbers.

Oh okay, thanks.  I checked WS and could not find it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 18, 2011, 04:31:05 PM
RAW VIDEO: Judge Scolds Baez http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html    ::MonkeyCool::

I HOPE JP follows up on this......I understand  he is doing everything to protect against a successful appeal.....but by doing so JB continually gets a free pass..it has happened time and time again.....does it ever end? Or does he continue to get a free pass?  For me the answer to my question will be, for me,  if the State submits an instruction to the jury and if JP reads it.

I think the state will submit an awesome instruction for the jury which should negate any damage done. I feel sure after this trial is over JP will be sending serious trial violations to the Florida Bar and bozo knows it. He can kiss his license goodbye and a sanction from the court or fine is the least of his worries at this point


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 18, 2011, 04:31:55 PM
The other thing that stood out for me when Spitz was testifying is when Jeff asked him if he knew about the events before death and he said "you mean about giving her to the Nanny?".

The dufense has not even shared with him the new molested, drowning,Vasco,  Kronkafied theory that they are using.  Spitz is still spinning the tale of the Nanny who applied duct tape to Caylee rather than V2 of what happened according to the dufense.

My daughter walked by my computer when Mumbles was on and her reaction was  "who is Mumbledore"  ?


HAHA! Your daughter hit the nail on the head!!  ::MonkeyGavel::
Give her a HIGH-5 for me!! MUMBLEDORE!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
Pretty sure that this is the link that cause the LDK kerfuffle. HAH FIRST!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76278


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 18, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
TeamNancyHLN Team Nancy HLN
Spitz believes tape was placed to keep jaw in place - post mortem.

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamNancyHLN)

 ::MonkeyEek::  For what purpose?????????????????


Right!  Since when does anyone do such a thing?
I thought that would only happen in Arooba with donkeys but guess it is a Florida thing now too.


LOL... I thought of that too lol....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
Pretty sure that this is the link that cause the LDK kerfuffle. HAH FIRST!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76278
I posted that link yesterday to verify the date LKB first joined the defense and when bug boy may have first been called in as an expert. I think someone misread that post as a 2011 post


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 04:43:58 PM
Pretty sure that this is the link that cause the LDK kerfuffle. HAH FIRST!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76278

NICE!!! We need a monkey with a Blue Ribbon for you! That is awesome :-) ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: stayhomemommy on June 18, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
Pretty sure that this is the link that cause the LDK kerfuffle. HAH FIRST!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76278
I posted that link yesterday to verify the date LKB first joined the defense and when bug boy may have first been called in as an expert. I think someone misread that post as a 2011 post

Alagary means "first at using kerfuffle in a sentence"...lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 04:45:21 PM
Hope that didn't look bad flamom. the "HAH FIRST" part was refering to using "kerfuffle" in a sentence. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 18, 2011, 04:52:26 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Spitz broke Caylee's skull when he opened it..

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

 ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::  I am not sure why, but that hurts my heart. I saw the picture of the CSI being so careful removing her little skull from the swamp....and this asswipe breaks her skull.......

ITA Sunny..it brought tears to my eyes..this man has no respect for the deceased..he should not be a doctor of anything ..he didn't even act apologetic..he is not brilliant he is a complete imbecile with no heart or soul.

I am pretty tough and not too emotional but for some reason I felt that deep down....such disrespect from a man who vowed to do no harm......many years ago. This case will be what he is remembered for.........not the greatest memory IMO


I agree Sunny....sons 17 yr old gf was watching with me and asked me if he even knows what he is talking about and cannot understand why he doesn't care about Caylee...she is hooked on this case with me...we let off balloons together...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 04:54:25 PM
Hope that didn't look bad flamom. the "HAH FIRST" part was refering to using "kerfuffle" in a sentence. ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 04:58:07 PM
I found this and thought you might enjoy it   ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Caylee-Anthonys-Page-Sweet-Angel/211697718851254 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Caylee-Anthonys-Page-Sweet-Angel/211697718851254)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 18, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
Hadf to work today.. Thank Magic Eyes for your recap ! You rock !!  ::MonkeyKiss::

I got balloons for Caylee at work and released them when I got home. Said a little prayer and kissed them and up up and away they went. I am trying to catch up reading and listening to the trial.. THANK you Trimmononthelake for posting the links !!!!!! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 18, 2011, 05:01:17 PM
I am so sickened by this asswipes testimony today. It was bad enough that kc duct taped Caylee and put her precious little body in trashbags and a laundry hamper, discarded her in the swamp and left her lil body for the animals and elements to destroy. Then comes along this pos and further desecrates her lil body by opening up her empty skull and breaking it. There is no pit in hell deep enough for Casey and her defense and "experts" and I use that term loosely.

I do know one thing for certain.....I am a certifiable expert on BS after the last couple of days of testimony. ::MonkeyMad::

Darla, Spitz callous treatment of Caylee's remains was a stark contrast to the way Dr. G with an apalled look on her face ,replied absolutely not! when asked if she had opened little Caylee's skull.Shows alot about the huge difference in the character of these two individuals and I don't think it will be lost on the jury...jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 05:01:58 PM
I am at least 10 pages behind..if this has already been discussed....sorry!!  I wondered what the sequestration issue was about...

Mike DeForest - Local 6
Sequestration issue involved possibility Spitz saw Dr G's testimony while doing Local 6 TV interview. State agrees he didn't. #CaseyAnthony

https://www.facebook.com/#!/MikeDeForestLocal6

What the above stated but he did a recent interview in Detriot & with Tony Pipitone for Local6 but I guess he didnt view Dr G's testimony, which Jeff Ashton took him to the woodshed for on cross regarding how many interviews he had done in this case as recent as last week & including 48 hours.   He put it out there that Dr Spitz is obsessed with high profile cases & is drawn to getting involved.  I know he has gone on air to criticize Dr G's autopsy before trial, several times.

I just checked back in after taking a break from this case too.   Foxnews cable is going to have an update in the next few minutes, considering they use Dr Michael Baden so much & of course Whoraldo Im not sure what spin they will put on the defense demoliation day this turned out to be.   Judge Jeanine is having a two-hour special tonight, I think she's in Orlando & the "judge" Leonard was referring to as to why he went to Hopespring Dr again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 05:04:14 PM
Jose & Mason should hang their heads in shame.
This show's what idiot morons they are.   ::piggy::

They knew Dr. S. is getting really to old and would be slaughtered on the stand, making him look like a fool.
They knew his memory not at all good.
That's what happens when you get old, the golden years.... ::MonkeyEek::

 ::boxingjeffbaez::



hey happens before "his" age I can attest to it LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 18, 2011, 05:11:39 PM
List of witnesses called in the Casey Anthony murder trial
Last Updated: Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:17 AM

Defence Phase


1 June 16 Gerardo Bloise* - Orange Co. Sheriff's Office
2 June 16 Heather Seubert - FBI former supervisory DNA examiner
3 June 16 Robin Maynard* - Former Orange Co. crime scene investigator
4 June 16 Ronald Murdock* - Forensics supervisor, Orange Co. Sheriff's Office
5 June 16 Jennifer Welch* - Orange Co. crime scene investigator
6 June 16 Lorie Gottesman - FBI forensic document examiner
7 June 16 Cary Oien - FBI hair and fiber analysis expert
8 June 17 Tim Huntington - Entomology expert
9 June 18 William Rodriguez - Forensic anthropologist
10 June 18 Werner Spitz - Autopsy expert
 
Prosecution Phase
 
1 May 24 George Anthony - Casey's father
2 May 25 Cameron Campana - Former roommate of Tony Lazzaro
3 May 25 Nathan Lezniewicz - Former roommate of Tony Lazzaro
4 May 25 Roy "Clint" House - Former roommate of Tony Lazzaro
5 May 25 Maria Kissh - Ex-girlfriend of Clint House
6 May 25 Brian Burner - Next-door neighbor of Anthony family
7 May 25 Jamie Realander - Shot girl at Fusion
8 May 25 Erica Gonzalez - Shot girl at Fusion
9 May 25–26 Anthony "Tony" Lazzaro - Casey's ex-boyfriend (June to July 2008)
10 May 26 George Anthony - Casey's father (2nd testimony)
11 May 26 Ricardo Morales - Casey's ex-boyfriend (February to May 2008)
12 May 26 Melissa England - Ex-girlfriend of Troy Brown, met Casey in July 2008
13 May 26 Troy Brown - Friend of Ricardo Morales
14 May 26 Iassen Donov - Friend of Casey's since 2007
15 May 26 Dante Salati - Friend of Casey's since 2000
16 May 26 Christopher Stutz - Friend of Casey's since 2005
17 May 26 Matthew Crisp - Friend of Casey's since 2002
18 May 27 Mallory Parker - Lee Anthony's fiancee
19 May 27 William Waters - Friend of Amy Huizenga, met Casey on July 4, 2008
20 May 27 Catherine Sanchez - Amscot district manager
21 May 27 Simon Birch - Managed company that towed Casey's car in June 2008
22 May 27 George Anthony - Casey's father (3rd testimony)
23 May 27–28 Anthony "Tony" Lazzaro - Casey's ex-boyfriend (2nd testimony)
24 May 28, 31 Cynthia "Cindy" Anthony - Casey's mother
25 May 31 Amy Huizenga - Friend of Casey's since 2008
26 June 1 Lee Anthony - Casey's older brother
27 June 1 Rendon Fletcher - Orange County Sheriff's Office in July 2008
28 June 1 Adriana Acevedo - Orange County Sheriff's Office
29 June 1 Amanda Macklin - Sawgrass Apartments property manager in July 2008
30 June 1 Reginald Hosey - Orange County Sheriff's Office
31 June 1 Yuri Melich -  Orange County Sheriff's Office
32 June 2 Jeffrey Hopkins "Acquaintance" of Casey's since middle school
33 June 2 Leonard Turtora - Assistant manager at Universal Orlando Resort
34 June 2 Yuri Melich - Orange County Sheriff's Office (2nd testimony)
35 June 3 Charity Beasley - Detective at Orange County Sheriff's Office
36 June 3 Awilda McBryde - Detective at Orange County Sheriff's Office
37 June 3 Christine Narkiewicz - Detective at Orange County Sheriff's Office
38 June 3 Geraldo Bloise - Detective at Orange County Sheriff's Office
39 June 4  Karen Lowe - FBI forensic expert 
40 June 4 Mike Vincent -  Collected air samples with Orange County Sheriff's Office
41 June 6 Arpad Vass - Forensic anthropologist, Oak Ridge National Lab
42 June 7 Gerardo Bloise - Orange County Sheriff's Office (2nd testimony)
43 June 7 Arpad Vass - Oak Ridge National Lab (2nd testimony)
44 June 7 Michael Rickenbach - FBI forensic chemist examiner
45 June 7 Jason Forgey - Cadaver dog handler, Orange County Sheriff's Office
46 June 8 Kristin Brewe -r Cadaver dog handler, Osceola Co. Sheriff's Office
47 June 8 Sandra Osborne - Computer examiner, Orange Co. Sheriff's Office
48 June 8 Kevin Stenger - Computer crimes supervisor, Orange Co. Sheriff's Office
49 June 8–9 John Dennis Bradley - Computer expert, CacheBack software developer
50 June 9 Lee Anthony - Casey's older brother (2nd testimony)
51 June 9 Edward Turso - Orange Co. Sheriff's Office
52 June 9 Jennifer Welch - Crime scene investigator, Orange Co. Sheriff's Office
53 June 9 Stephen Hanson - Chief investigator, Medical Examiner's Office
54 June 9–10 Gary Utz - Deputy chief medical examiner
55 June 10 John Schultz - UCF anthropology professor, forensics expert
56 June 10 Jan "Dr. G" Garavaglia - Orange-Osceola chief medical examiner
57 June 10 Michael Warren - UF anthropology professor
58 June 10 Mike Vincent - Orange Co. crime scene investigator (2nd testimony)
59 June 10 Robin Maynard - Orange Co. crime scene investigator
60 June 11 Neal Haskell - Forensic entomology expert
61 June 11 Jennifer Welch - Orange Co. crime scene investigator (2nd testimony)
62 June 11 Ronald Murdock - Forensics supervisor, Orange Co. Sheriff's Office
63 June 11 Gerald Johnston - Land surveyor
64 June 13 Stephen Shaw - FBI hair and fiber examiner
65 June 13 Elizabeth Fontaine -  FBI latent print expert
66 June 14 Catherine Theisen - FBI quality assurance specialist, DNA expert
67 June 14 Alina Burroughs - Orange Co. crime scene investigator
68 June 14 Cynthia "Cindy" Anthony - 2nd testimony
69 June 14 Jennifer Welch - 3rd testimony
70 June 14 Bobby Williams - Tattoo artist

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/may/251421/List-of-witnesses-called-in-the-Casey-Anthony-murder-trial


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 18, 2011, 05:11:49 PM
UPDATED - JUNE 18, 2011

TRIAL OVERVIEWS/VIDEOS

Defence Phase


Mistake, Objections Spark Fireworks In Casey Trial
Witnesses: Gerardo Bloise - Heather Seubert - Robin Maynard - Ronald Murdock - Jennifer Welch - Lorie Gottesman - Cary Olen
DAY 31: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/28254757/detail.html

Casey Court Drama: Sparring Lawyers, Fighting Spectators
Witness:  Tim Huntington
DAY 32: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6| 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/28268047/detail.html

Casey Cries As Expert Talks About Caylee's Skull In Trial
Witnesses: William Rodriguez - Werner Splitz
TRIAL DAY 33: Part 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/28280462/detail.html

Opening Statements

Casey Murder Trial Brings Tears, Blame And Shame
Opening Statements: Jose Baez - Drane-Burdick
Witness: George Anthony
DAY 12: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13
http://www.wftv.com/news/28001858/detail.html

Prosecution Phase

Casey Friends Say They Never Knew Caylee Was Missing
Witnesses: Nathan Lezniewicz - Cameron Campana - Brian Burner - Tony Lazzaro - Maria Kissh - Roy "Clint" House - Jamie Realander - Erica Gonzalez
DAY 13: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13
http://www.wftv.com/news/28016659/detail.html

Casey's Ex-Lovers, Friends Testify On Day 14 Of Trial
Witnesses: Ricardo Morales - Tony Lazzaro - Melissa England - George Anthony - Matthew Crisp - Troy Brown - Iassen Donov - Dante Salati - Christopher Stutz
DAY 14: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14
http://www.wftv.com/news/28031215/detail.html

Witness: Casey Anthony's Car Smelled Of Decomposition
Witnesses:  Mallory Parker - George Anthony - Simon Birch - William Waters - Catherine Sanchez - Tony Lazzaro
DAY 15: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13
http://www.wftv.com/news/28044952/detail.html

Cindy Cries During Testimony On Caylee, Casey Angered
Witnesses:  Cindy Anthony - Tony Lazzaro.
DAY 16: Pt. 1 | Pt.2 | Pt.3 | Pt.4 | Pt.5 | Pt.6 | Pt.7
http://www.wftv.com/news/28057538/detail.html

Tears Shed As 911 Calls Play; Casey's Ex-Friend Testifies
Witnesses: Cindy Anthony - Amy Huizenga
DAY 17: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12
http://www.wftv.com/news/28074159/detail.html

Witnesses, Recordings Heard In Court Expose Casey's Lies
Witnesses: Lee Anthony - Rendon Fletcher - Adriana Acevedo - Amanda Macklin - Reginald Hosey - Yuri Melich 
DAY 18: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12
http://www.wftv.com/news/28091499/detail.html

State Exposes Lie After Lie From Casey On Day 19 Of Trial
Witnesses: Jeffrey Hopkins - Leonard Turtora - Yuri Melich   
DAY 19: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14
http://www.wftv.com/news/28105029/detail.html

Day 20: Parts Of Casey's Car Trunk Shown As Evidence
Witnesses: Charity Beasley - Awilda McBryde - Christine Narkiewicz - Geraldo Bloise
DAY 20: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/28117759/detail.html

Forensic Expert Testifies On Evidence In Casey's Car
Witnesses: Karen Lowe - Mike Vincent
TRIAL DAY 21: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/28130373/detail.html

Forensic Expert Testifies On Evidence In Casey's Car
Witness: Arpad Vass
TRIAL DAY 21: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
http://www.wftv.com/news/28130373/detail.html

Deputy: Cadaver Dog Alerted To Playhouse, Casey's Car
Witnesses: Gerardo Bloise - Arpad Vass - Michael Rickenbach - Jason Forgey
DAY 23: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11
http://www.wftv.com/news/28153797/detail.html

Expert: Casey Searched Neck-Breaking, Death On Web
Witness: Kristin Brewer - Sandra Osborne - Kevin Stenger = Kevin Stenger
DAY 24: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 http://www.wftv.com/news/28167030/detail.html

Casey Becomes Sick During Testimony On Remains
Witnesses: John Dennis Bradley - Lee Anthony - Edward Turso - Jennifer Welch - Stephen Hanson - Gary Utz
DAY 25: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/28179628/detail.html

Casey Gets Angry, Cries As Caylee Autopsy Pics Shown
Witnesses: Gary Utz- John Schultz - Jan "Dr. G" Garavaglia - Michael Warren - Mike Vincent - Robin Maynard
DAY 26: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11
http://www.wftv.com/news/28193553/detail.html

Crime Scene, Insect Experts Testify In Casey Trial Day 27
Witnesses: Neal Haskell - Jennifer Welch - Ronald Murdock - Gerald Johnston
TRIAL DAY 27: Part 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
http://www.wftv.com/news/28205710/detail.html

Expert Testifies On Hair Found In Trunk, Caylee's Skull
Witnesses: Stephen Shaw - Elizabeth Fontaine
TRIAL DAY 28: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3http://www.wftv.com/news/28216441/detail.html

WFTV Duct Tape Video Used As Evidence In Casey Trial
Witnesses: Alina Burroughs - Cynthia "Cindy" Anthony - Jennifer Welch - Bobby Williams
DAY 29: Pt. 1 | Pt. 2 | Pt. 3 | Pt. 4 | Pt. 5 | Pt. 6 | Pt. 7
http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/28229774/detail.html

Defense Motion For Acquittal Denied In Casey Trial
No Witnesses
TRIAL DAY 30: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4
http://www.wftv.com/news/28241863/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 05:15:55 PM
I am rewatching Dr Bill Rodriquez who founded the body farm with Dr Bass and I want to know.. why did he leave??? under what circumstances? does he have an axe to grind? Bobo called it junk science and now calls one of the co founders? my hinky is going off big time


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: carpe noctem on June 18, 2011, 05:22:39 PM
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
One juror is laughing at Dr. Spitz's theory about someone putting duct tape on the skull

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Ok, we got a winner.....
 ::justice2NJ::

He had me laughing too. With his EXTENDED duct tape theory... He had me picturing a football player with his chin strap left dangling.

It's time to rinse, Dr. Spitz.   ::MonkeyFootball::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 05:24:07 PM
I am rewatching Dr Bill Rodriquez who founded the body farm with Dr Bass and I want to know.. why did he leave??? under what circumstances? does he have an axe to grind? Bobo called it junk science and now calls one of the co founders? my hinky is going off big time

He left because he started to testify to stuff not no his depo, so JBP is contemplating sanctioning Bozo.  They are doing a depo this afternoon and he will be back monday. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 05:37:46 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20503784,00.html
Casey Anthony Trial: Defense Expert Calls Autopsy 'Shoddy'
By Steve Helling
Saturday June 18, 2011 01:35 PM EDT

A defense forensic expert told the jury in the Casey Anthony murder trial that he believed little Caylee Anthony's body had been moved by an unknown person after it decomposed.
Dr. Warner Spitz, a former medical examiner who consulted on the investigation into John F. Kennedy's assassination and more recently the O.J. Simpson and Phil Spector cases, also criticized the celebrity coroner in the Anthony case, calling her work "shoddy
 ::snipping2::

After Prosecutor Jeff Ashton was thru with Dr. Warner Spitz it was Spitz that was shown to be shoddy. How many times during the cross did Spitz say he did not know, he could not remember and he had no idea? Spitz was not even clear if he knew the specifics of the circumstances of Caylee's disappearance. During direct he kept confusing the names Casey and Caylee, not being able to differentiate between the two.

Spitz could also not remember how many interviews he did on the case. In an attempt not to look like a media whore, he basically lied on the witness stand and used the BS excuse, he could not remember. He actually stated that he did not remember an interview he did last week. Nice credibility.

In his testimony he basically stated that this case was high profile and should have had things done in it that would not be done in a lesser case. Spitz is enamored with high profile cases ... he is the Gloria Alrred of forensic ME's.

He was made to look like a babbling fool by days end with conspratorial plots that would make us believe that Lee harvy Oslwald took Caylee at the grassy knoll on Suburban dr and used duct tape after she had decomposed.

Yet another disasterous expert witness for the defense.

Thanks Red, imo you nailed it!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 05:40:04 PM
I am rewatching Dr Bill Rodriquez who founded the body farm with Dr Bass and I want to know.. why did he leave??? under what circumstances? does he have an axe to grind? Bobo called it junk science and now calls one of the co founders? my hinky is going off big time

He left because he started to testify to stuff not no his depo, so JBP is contemplating sanctioning Bozo.  They are doing a depo this afternoon and he will be back monday. 
I am sorry, I worded my sentence poorly.. I meant why did he leave the body farm?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 18, 2011, 05:42:30 PM
Were these August, 2008 words of Baden pertaining to the 'Body Farm' techniques prior to the his wife's Baez connection following the December, 2008 discovery of Caylee's remains?

Janet

+++++


Caylee Search: Psychics, Jail Visits Refused, 'Body Farm' Techniques
Tuesday, August 12, 2008


VAN SUSTEREN: .... Joining us live is forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden. Dr. Baden, can they take an air sample from the trunk and determine whether or not there had been a body decomposing in that truck?

DR. MICHAEL BADEN, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Yes, because after we die and the bacteria proliferate in our body and start breaking down our muscles and our fat and organs, vapors, gases, are formed with beautiful names like cadaverine (ph) and putrescine (ph) that are a particular structure that are easily picked up in the toxicology lab if they're collected from the area, the air that the body was in. And if there was a dead body in the trunk of the car and they collected the air sample, they should be able to find those chemicals.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: 4 Donks on June 18, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/06/18/caylee-anthony-case-magpie-reports-0617-and-061811/

Caylee Anthony case: Magpie reports 06/17 and 06/18/11


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 05:48:54 PM
Janet, LKB joined 12/11/08


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NewfieMonkey on June 18, 2011, 05:53:39 PM
I wish the State could announce:  Spitz (the liar), Lee (the hider), and Kenny Baden (the media whore) ... were all involved in Spector One.    These people are a money hungry pack willing to say whatever needs to be said in order to get either fame, publicity, or money.  Sick!  I never thought Lee would ever get another TV gig after his sanction by Judge Fidler in LA ... but there he was on HLN yesterday.  Those TV head type shows just breed this crap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: sandy leiva on June 18, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

Wow..I did not know the address on Suburban..it matches her date of birth..I would say no coincidence with Casey at the helm..she knew just what she was doing



Makes me wonder if thats why Casey kept telling her parents and Lee in the videos from prison that Caylee would be found or returned on her birthday. Was that a hint birthday and address where she was found is the same.  Diabolical woman......sl


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NewfieMonkey on June 18, 2011, 06:10:21 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

Wow..I did not know the address on Suburban..it matches her date of birth..I would say no coincidence with Casey at the helm..she knew just what she was doing



Makes me wonder if thats why Casey kept telling her parents and Lee in the videos from prison that Caylee would be found or returned on her birthday. Was that a hint birthday and address where she was found is the same.  Diabolical woman......sl
Really weird for sure.  But is there anyway Casey could have know the address of that exact spot since there wasn't a house there?  Was that area plotted out for sale as lots? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 18, 2011, 06:19:20 PM
just got caught up and wow what a day!

i love kathi and bill's analysis and look forward to it.  kathi should win an award for her journalism in this case!  (does she remind anyone else of caroline from Real Housewives of NJ? i think they look so much alike!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NewfieMonkey on June 18, 2011, 06:20:38 PM
Oh My!  I didn't realize JP got really huffy about witnesses who are coming up with new ideas since depos.  ... Go JP ....

Please let Byass lose his license to practice ... Please let Byass lose his license to practice ... Please let Byass lose his license to practice ...

COME ON KARMA!  WHERE ARE YOU!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 06:29:17 PM
I am wondering if the jury got the notion that Dr.  Spitz may have been astounding during his prime, but his best before date has lapsed and so has his integrity and intelligence?
Ding, ding, ding!  Yes, this!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 06:30:07 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: New Monkey on June 18, 2011, 06:31:55 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/06/casey-anthony-dr-werner-spitz-takes-some-big-hits.html
Casey Anthony: Dr. Werner Spitz takes some big hits
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Dr. G: Medical Examiner, Dr. Jan Garavaglia, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on June, 18 2011 1:43 PM

(http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/files/2011/06/spitz-300x175.jpg)
Dr. Werner Spitz testified today at the Casey Anthony trial. Photo credit: Red Huber/Orlando Sentinel

he looks like he is talking to the skull
OMG, he so does!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NewfieMonkey on June 18, 2011, 06:36:37 PM
Catching up via WFTV

I haven't completely turned on Cindy yet ... but ... I thought she came off so strong at first ... like she'd really seen the light!  Now I see her backsliding and claiming poor memory and trying to get out of the lies she told in 08 and 09!

Cindy you can either:

Tell the truth!  Tell the jury you were protecting your daughter at all costs and that's why you were lying!  Tell the jury you hate her for murdering Caylee ... but love her because she's your daughter.  People will understand that.

Or keep mouthing "I love you" to Casey ... claiming forgetfulness, poor memory, better memory now than back in 2008 ... and besmirching the memory of Caylee.  The beautiful child that you loved ... and Casey murdered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 18, 2011, 06:37:26 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

??????

She crazy??

I often wonder about her, lol.  How could he have 'owned it' if he can't remember where he is?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 18, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

??????

She crazy??

I often wonder about her, lol.  How could he have 'owned it' if he can't remember where he is?  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::rhino:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: NewfieMonkey on June 18, 2011, 06:47:47 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::
Wonder how far back the computer forensics people went?  Casey would have had to look up the lot number.  And if I remember correctly, computer forensics went back to March.  This is either a coincidence ... or more proof of premeditation ... and premeditated way before anyone thought? ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 06:52:20 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/06/casey-anthony-dr-werner-spitz-takes-some-big-hits.html
Casey Anthony: Dr. Werner Spitz takes some big hits
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Dr. G: Medical Examiner, Dr. Jan Garavaglia, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on June, 18 2011 1:43 PM

(http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/files/2011/06/spitz-300x175.jpg)
Dr. Werner Spitz testified today at the Casey Anthony trial. Photo credit: Red Huber/Orlando Sentinel

he looks like he is talking to the skull
OMG, he so does!

Hamlet comes to mind.... ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 06:55:17 PM
Just got caught up, thank you all for all the commentary of this morning. I really appreciate it, I "watched" listened to it on my iphone racing home to see the final smackdown by Jeff. Didn't get to see the beginning with the Rodriguez guy and Baez getting  ::boxingbaez2::  by JP. Hopefully will be able to to watch that either tonight or in the morning. Just wanted to thank you all and thanks for the links and the laughs. In the car, listening to Dr Spitz saying the skull should have been opened up, just infuriated me. There was no brain and I am glad that Jeff asked about the hole to look through.

Still don't know what the old man was talking about a fracture on the inside of the skull. ::MonkeyConfused:: about that.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I asked earlier, never got an answer DID Dr G do an x-ray of Caylee's skull?? No need to open the skull to see a fracture if an x-ray was taken. TIA JSM  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 06:56:15 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/06/casey-anthony-dr-werner-spitz-takes-some-big-hits.html
Casey Anthony: Dr. Werner Spitz takes some big hits
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Dr. G: Medical Examiner, Dr. Jan Garavaglia, George and Cindy Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on June, 18 2011 1:43 PM

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Dr. Werner Spitz testified today at the Casey Anthony trial. Photo credit: Red Huber/Orlando Sentinel

he looks like he is talking to the skull
OMG, he so does!

Hamlet comes to mind.... ::piggy::
  ::MonkeyCool:: Yes it does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: snoopy on June 18, 2011, 06:58:35 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

Wow..I did not know the address on Suburban..it matches her date of birth..I would say no coincidence with Casey at the helm..she knew just what she was doing



Makes me wonder if thats why Casey kept telling her parents and Lee in the videos from prison that Caylee would be found or returned on her birthday. Was that a hint birthday and address where she was found is the same.  Diabolical woman......sl

And in her jailhouse tapes she told her mom and dad  "she's close to home".

Coincidence?  I think not. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 18, 2011, 06:59:49 PM
Quote
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Werner Spitz complimented Jeff Ashton on his cross examination afterward.. Baez pushed me out of his way as I interviewed Spitz unhappy

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Legally isn't a "push" an assault? ::piggy::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 07:00:45 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::

Is this for real?  OMG
Kc did that on purpose putting Caylee's body there..omg
Must be in the records some where..humm
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: snoopy on June 18, 2011, 07:02:26 PM
I wonder if the state has connected the address and Caylee's birthday together?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 07:03:20 PM
I wish the State could announce:  Spitz (the liar), Lee (the hider), and Kenny Baden (the media whore) ... were all involved in Spector One.    These people are a money hungry pack willing to say whatever needs to be said in order to get either fame, publicity, or money.  Sick!  I never thought Lee would ever get another TV gig after his sanction by Judge Fidler in LA ... but there he was on HLN yesterday.  Those TV head type shows just breed this crap.

BINGO~ Even the jurors called them liars for hire basically, so if Cyril Wecht and Vince DeMaio decide to come testify for slore, I am going to need a HUGE presciption for valium and a liquor cabinet full of Patron ASAP. I also remember the judge in PS #1 considered sanctions for the very same reason Perry is PO'd and considering sanctions, and also that in he first triak the jurors stated he testimony from all of the above , well basically that they never even considered it, basically they nullified what these bozos testified to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 07:04:37 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::

Is this for real?  OMG
Kc did that on purpose putting Caylee's body there..omg
Must be in the records some where..humm
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::boxingcasey2::
I don't recall any Google searches of her searching street numbers and there is nothing there that would show what the number would be, just a pole and a very large wooded area. Personally I don't think KC is that bright, but that is JMO. But I do like to do this  ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingcasey2::  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 18, 2011, 07:05:06 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-trial-forensic-expert-caylee-necessarily-suffocated/story?id=13869668
Casey Anthony Trial: Forensic Expert Says Caylee Was Not Necessarily Suffocated By Duct Tape
06/18/2011
Video at link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 07:05:40 PM
Quote
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Werner Spitz complimented Jeff Ashton on his cross examination afterward.. Baez pushed me out of his way as I interviewed Spitz unhappy

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Legally isn't a "push" an assault? ::piggy::

It is!! I have a feeling he is going into defcom meltdown mode, and Bozo know one other than Casey deserves it more than you  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::

Is this for real?  OMG
Kc did that on purpose putting Caylee's body there..omg
Must be in the records some where..humm
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::boxingcasey2::

No, not for real.  She was found closer to 8750 Suburban


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: snoopy on June 18, 2011, 07:13:29 PM
Thanks Klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 07:18:12 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::

Is this for real?  OMG
Kc did that on purpose putting Caylee's body there..omg
Must be in the records some where..humm
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::boxingcasey2::

No, not for real.  She was found closer to 8750 Suburban

Klaas is it the records some where?
I really like to see it on the actual document.
I'll go google.
 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 07:21:21 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::

Is this for real?  OMG
Kc did that on purpose putting Caylee's body there..omg
Must be in the records some where..humm
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::boxingcasey2::

No, not for real.  She was found closer to 8750 Suburban

Klaas is it the records some where?
I really like to see it on the actual document.
I'll go google.
 ::MonkeyWink::

I googled and only found this so far..no address yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caylee_Anthony_homicide
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 07:31:11 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 07:43:20 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723 (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723)

Is Casey Anthony's Defense in Chaos?


Published June 17, 2011 | On the Record | On the Record

Special Guests: Attorneys Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams, Jim Hammer, Diana Tennis
video link (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1002004157001/casey-anthony-trial-courtroom-circus/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:50:51 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723 (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723)

Is Casey Anthony's Defense in Chaos?


Published June 17, 2011 | On the Record | On the Record

Special Guests: Attorneys Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams, Jim Hammer, Diana Tennis
video link (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1002004157001/casey-anthony-trial-courtroom-circus/)

I wonder if  this might come back and end up being where it's concluded Casey didn't have good/fair trial & legal representation? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
As far as I can tell there is NO 8905 Suburban Drive.  There is an 8750 block of Suburban. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 07:51:29 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723 (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723)

Is Casey Anthony's Defense in Chaos?


Published June 17, 2011 | On the Record | On the Record

Special Guests: Attorneys Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams, Jim Hammer, Diana Tennis
video link (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1002004157001/casey-anthony-trial-courtroom-circus/)

Tks Klaas, was for the 17th...
Some of them on the panel are giving bozo a pass.
Get out of town. 
Can't wait for them to review today...
 ::MonkeyEek::
Defense is getting worse day by day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 07:53:05 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 07:54:24 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723 (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723)

Is Casey Anthony's Defense in Chaos?


Published June 17, 2011 | On the Record | On the Record

Special Guests: Attorneys Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams, Jim Hammer, Diana Tennis
video link (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1002004157001/casey-anthony-trial-courtroom-circus/)

Tks Klaas, was for the 17th...
Some of them on the panel are giving bozo a pass.
Get out of town. 
Can't wait for them to review today...
 ::MonkeyEek::
Defense is getting worse day by day.


(Bolded by Me)

ITA.  It's getting worse!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 08:00:41 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723 (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723)

Is Casey Anthony's Defense in Chaos?


Published June 17, 2011 | On the Record | On the Record

Special Guests: Attorneys Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams, Jim Hammer, Diana Tennis
video link (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1002004157001/casey-anthony-trial-courtroom-circus/)

Tks Klaas, was for the 17th...
Some of them on the panel are giving bozo a pass.
Get out of town. 
Can't wait for them to review today...
 ::MonkeyEek::
Defense is getting worse day by day.


(Bolded by Me)

ITA.  It's getting worse!

BBM....  ::MonkeyCheer4::  ::MonkeyCheer4:: I can't think of a defense that I would wish becoming worse by the day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 08:00:55 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::
He comes back Monday am JSM so maybe the state will shed some light on it.. but I am still hunting!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 08:01:48 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 08:04:12 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::
He comes back Monday am JSM so maybe the state will shed some light on it.. but I am still hunting!
I have been hunting, can't find a thing either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 08:06:11 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.

Sorry, he's actually Chief Deputy Medical Examiner Office of the Armed Forces


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 08:08:18 PM
someone else feels the same way


http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6)
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysgirl 
Maybe it was the way he started. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. to start out saying "I'm an unpaid consultant" just said to me that he was going to go against what Dr. Vass/Dr. Bass said. What I want to know is why he left the body farm. something is just not right about this guy, IMO.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 08:09:01 PM
I can't find anything either, just gave up.
Probably because of working for defense department.  Top secret you think?
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 08:10:40 PM
The other thing that stood out for me when Spitz was testifying is when Jeff asked him if he knew about the events before death and he said "you mean about giving her to the Nanny?".

The dufense has not even shared with him the new molested, drowning,Vasco,  Kronkafied theory that they are using.  Spitz is still spinning the tale of the Nanny who applied duct tape to Caylee rather than V2 of what happened according to the dufense.

My daughter walked by my computer when Mumbles was on and her reaction was "who is Mumbledore"?


Except the drowning theory. They must have mentioned that, because he said he "saw a pool and realized there could have been a drowning" or something to that effect. I mean, this is like saying "I saw a dog and thought maybe it mauled her." IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING. But he (the witness) also said "All pieces of the puzzle must fit". Well, how does the duct tape fit with drowning, or mauling, or even choking on food?!" He contridicted himself with that, and I hope the jury caught it!


OMG~Can't believe you picked that as one of something he would state. I lived in Memphis when the West Memphis Three case happend and it was a horrific crime, I remember Spitz theory about dogs and the 3 boys and thought it was insanity, the boys were not missing but about 18 hrs before found, hot tied with their own shoe laces and dumped in a creek in Robin Hood Park, yet Spitz thought their injuried were consistent with a dog mauling...no chit!

 ::snipping2::

I am copying and pasting her transcribed notes below so you can read about how Spitz believes a large dog was responsible for inflicting the injuries on the boys, including fractures to their skulls.

 ::snipping2::


ME.....but then the dogs put the 3 boys back in the creek? Wonder if the dog hog tied them too ::MonkeyMad::

 ::snipping2::

this, Defense then presented a number of photos of the boys and the injuries they sustained. . Per Spitz, all of the wounds were attributed to animal predation. He said it was the work of a large animal, most likely a dog. He even said that some injuries were consistent with having been made by minnows [such as injuries to the lips, eyelids, and ears of the boys]. When asked if injuries found on the ears could be attributed to having been forced to perform oral sex, Spitz disagreed with this as he said injuries would have had to have been found on both ears, not just one. Other injuries, such as indentations on the skulls and extension fractures, were caused by an animal shaking a victim in its mouth, causing them to strike nearby objects [trees, rocks, the ditch itself]. There were also puncture wounds attributed to the 'lake knife,' which Spitz said were made by the incisors of a large animal. He was asked repeatedly if any of the injuries were made by other 'mechanisms' such as a knife, tree limb, fist, etc., and he steadfastly kept with the theory that all injuries were consistent with animal predation. Burnett and the state also kept asking Spitz to name the 'large animal' he kept referring to, and again, he stated it was a dog or other type of animal like a dog [coyote]. Spitz said he was not certain what animal had done it, but he was certain it wasn't a knife or other weapon. The injuries to Christopher Byers' genital area as well as those to Stevie Branch's lip were also shown consistent with a dog or dog-like animal. There were also injuries to the scalp that Spitz said held tooth marks. Death, according to Peretti, occurred as a result of the injuries sustained by physical injuries. However, Spitz insisted that death occurred due to all three victims drowning. He also stated that the bites attributed to dogs could 'pass' as knife wounds. Burnett asked if Spitz would have considered the deaths 'homicides,' and if he would note thusly on the death certificates. To this, Spitz answered that he would have noted death was 'undetermined.' Other wounds attributed to animals were the injuries to Stevie Branch's face. Spitz determined these were caused by the rough tongue of an animal 'licking' the face. Spitz was asked about Fogleman's 'grapefruit' exercise during the original hearing. He was then asked if this was something he would do. To which he responded that he would not. He said it would have and should have been appropriate to use the skin or bones of a pig [which, he said, were closest in skin consistency to humans].

 ::snipping2::

What trash, UNDETERMINED DEATH???? They were hog tied, naked and tossed in a creek or ditch that was flooded IIRC along with their bikes, how on earth is tha not a MURDER???


http://paradiselost3.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1865.0




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: I found the answer to my question!!! X-rays were taken of Caylee's skull so Dr Spitz is full of shitz!!!

There was NO REASON to open the skull to see if a fracture was inside the skull, like he was saying that is why the skull needed to be opened.

I am usually not very bright when these people are testifying but this just threw me over the edge when he made that comment. I was driving in the car and thought I didn't hear correctly but he definitely said that he would have opened to the skull up to see if there was a fracture because he mentioned suffocation IIRC could cause blood pressure to go up.

 ::MonkeyBike:: Sorry for the dance, I know this is a sweet baby I am talking about, but I almost had a fit when I heard him say that baloney. Wanted to make sure x-rays were done (I knew they were, just needed confirmation).

Have a good evening. I will shut up now.  ::MonkeyBike:: JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 08:13:39 PM
Besides his info at the bottom, which is found all over the net, I found that he helped identify 184 out of 189 victims from the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon. Maybe he left UT to work for the government.

http://www.theabfa.org/diplomates.html

Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil
(301) 319-0000


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: IBE on June 18, 2011, 08:24:35 PM
Ashton is going to expose his senility.  

He's not senile, he's greedy & ego driven

Spitz got info from the Defense adn does not remember what police reports he looked at.

Does not know of facts he had of Caylee.  ::MonkeyEek::


Notice how some of the defense "experts" have never brought their notes or reports? IMO how can they get by without those proofs? IMO it lessens their creditability!  This trial has personally increased my consumption of Excedrin and CVS All Day Pain Relief
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 18, 2011, 08:25:02 PM
Besides his info at the bottom, which is found all over the net, I found that he helped identify 184 out of 189 victims from the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon. Maybe he left UT to work for the government.

http://www.theabfa.org/diplomates.html

Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil
(301) 319-0000
  ::MonkeyAngel:: Bless Dr Rodriguez for identifying victims of the 9/11 attack. ::MonkeyTears::

My question is though, why would the military let him become a (non paid) witness for the prosecution of a baby killer? If I were Mr Rodriguez I would run faster than a rabbit being chased by a whippet because that is what he will become when Mr Ashton gets to him.

I am very dumb about the military, but I just don't see them letting their experts become witnesses in a non military/war trial.


JMSO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
Avoiding stacking
 islandmonkeys article about Stitz findings on the 3 boys, a scary reminder ,he thinks he has supervised 50-60,000 autopsies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
The other thing that stood out for me when Spitz was testifying is when Jeff asked him if he knew about the events before death and he said "you mean about giving her to the Nanny?".

The dufense has not even shared with him the new molested, drowning,Vasco,  Kronkafied theory that they are using.  Spitz is still spinning the tale of the Nanny who applied duct tape to Caylee rather than V2 of what happened according to the dufense.

My daughter walked by my computer when Mumbles was on and her reaction was "who is Mumbledore"?


Except the drowning theory. They must have mentioned that, because he said he "saw a pool and realized there could have been a drowning" or something to that effect. I mean, this is like saying "I saw a dog and thought maybe it mauled her." IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING. But he (the witness) also said "All pieces of the puzzle must fit". Well, how does the duct tape fit with drowning, or mauling, or even choking on food?!" He contridicted himself with that, and I hope the jury caught it!


OMG~Can't believe you picked that as one of something he would state. I lived in Memphis when the West Memphis Three case happend and it was a horrific crime, I remember Spitz theory about dogs and the 3 boys and thought it was insanity, the boys were not missing but about 18 hrs before found, hot tied with their own shoe laces and dumped in a creek in Robin Hood Park, yet Spitz thought their injuried were consistent with a dog mauling...no chit!

 ::snipping2::

I am copying and pasting her transcribed notes below so you can read about how Spitz believes a large dog was responsible for inflicting the injuries on the boys, including fractures to their skulls.

 ::snipping2::


ME.....but then the dogs put the 3 boys back in the creek? Wonder if the dog hog tied them too ::MonkeyMad::

 ::snipping2::

this, Defense then presented a number of photos of the boys and the injuries they sustained. . Per Spitz, all of the wounds were attributed to animal predation. He said it was the work of a large animal, most likely a dog. He even said that some injuries were consistent with having been made by minnows [such as injuries to the lips, eyelids, and ears of the boys]. When asked if injuries found on the ears could be attributed to having been forced to perform oral sex, Spitz disagreed with this as he said injuries would have had to have been found on both ears, not just one. Other injuries, such as indentations on the skulls and extension fractures, were caused by an animal shaking a victim in its mouth, causing them to strike nearby objects [trees, rocks, the ditch itself]. There were also puncture wounds attributed to the 'lake knife,' which Spitz said were made by the incisors of a large animal. He was asked repeatedly if any of the injuries were made by other 'mechanisms' such as a knife, tree limb, fist, etc., and he steadfastly kept with the theory that all injuries were consistent with animal predation. Burnett and the state also kept asking Spitz to name the 'large animal' he kept referring to, and again, he stated it was a dog or other type of animal like a dog [coyote]. Spitz said he was not certain what animal had done it, but he was certain it wasn't a knife or other weapon. The injuries to Christopher Byers' genital area as well as those to Stevie Branch's lip were also shown consistent with a dog or dog-like animal. There were also injuries to the scalp that Spitz said held tooth marks. Death, according to Peretti, occurred as a result of the injuries sustained by physical injuries. However, Spitz insisted that death occurred due to all three victims drowning. He also stated that the bites attributed to dogs could 'pass' as knife wounds. Burnett asked if Spitz would have considered the deaths 'homicides,' and if he would note thusly on the death certificates. To this, Spitz answered that he would have noted death was 'undetermined.' Other wounds attributed to animals were the injuries to Stevie Branch's face. Spitz determined these were caused by the rough tongue of an animal 'licking' the face. Spitz was asked about Fogleman's 'grapefruit' exercise during the original hearing. He was then asked if this was something he would do. To which he responded that he would not. He said it would have and should have been appropriate to use the skin or bones of a pig [which, he said, were closest in skin consistency to humans].

 ::snipping2::

What trash, UNDETERMINED DEATH???? They were hog tied, naked and tossed in a creek or ditch that was flooded IIRC along with their bikes, how on earth is tha not a MURDER???


http://paradiselost3.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1865.0




Funny you say this bc I followed this case closely. DNA testing wasn't intricate like it's become now compared to back then. None of the DNA from the crime scene is linked to any of the 3 men (were teens at the time) that have been in prison for about 20 years. The Innocense Project supplied testing and alot of famous people got on board to get all 3 of these now men new trials for exhonoration. You see, some DNA found in a sperm sample taken off of one of the young boy victims was traced to that young boy's stepfather. Because of the notoriety associated with the case, several media outlets jumped onboard with bring anti dp. Remember back when Dawson's Creek was on tv? Well, they wore tshirts asking for their exhonorations. They were the WB. Warner owns alot. They merged with CBS. I believe they are all affiliated with each other: TRUtv, CNN, etc. Most are anti dp. This is why I jeep harping about anti dp groups. They stick together & the money can't be compared. If Casey ends up getting the dp, the Innocense Project will pay for her appeal. They honestly believe that if just 1 person is sentenced to death and that person ends up being exhonorated due to better technology, but that person has already died, then they shouldn't be sentenced to death at all...if there's even an inkling of a question.

I think of something happening to my children & it scares me that I know I believe in vengence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 08:31:42 PM
Besides his info at the bottom, which is found all over the net, I found that he helped identify 184 out of 189 victims from the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon. Maybe he left UT to work for the government.

http://www.theabfa.org/diplomates.html

Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil
(301) 319-0000
thank you for looking Titch


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 08:34:38 PM
::MonkeyDance:: I found the answer to my question!!! X-rays were taken of Caylee's skull so Dr Spitz is full of shitz!!!

There was NO REASON to open the skull to see if a fracture was inside the skull, like he was saying that is why the skull needed to be opened.

I am usually not very bright when these people are testifying but this just threw me over the edge when he made that comment. I was driving in the car and thought I didn't hear correctly but he definitely said that he would have opened to the skull up to see if there was a fracture because he mentioned suffocation IIRC could cause blood pressure to go up.

 ::MonkeyBike:: Sorry for the dance, I know this is a sweet baby I am talking about, but I almost had a fit when I heard him say that baloney. Wanted to make sure x-rays were done (I knew they were, just needed confirmation).

Have a good evening. I will shut up now.  ::MonkeyBike:: JSM

lmao! too funny! full of shitz!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 08:34:50 PM
Avoiding stacking
 islandmonkeys article about Stitz findings on the 3 boys, a scary reminder ,he thinks he has supervised 50-60,000 autopsies.

Damn scary isn't it  ::MonkeyEek:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Aurelia7 on June 18, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Ohhhhh Mr. Baez...lordy.  I am now fully convinced he's never attended law school.



As far as I can tell there is NO 8905 Suburban Drive.  There is an 8750 block of Suburban. 

I was skeptical upon hearing about that address because there are no homes there...just swamp.  Then I thought it might be a mile marker of sorts.  But now it seems to be one of those silly urban legends.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 08:35:47 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::
Wonder how far back the computer forensics people went?  Casey would have had to look up the lot number.  And if I remember correctly, computer forensics went back to March.  This is either a coincidence ... or more proof of premeditation ... and premeditated way before anyone thought? ...

Didn't you dedicated monkeys also have a discussion way back when about 2 properties right there containing the names Zenaida and Gonzalez?  Seems to me I remember some talk about that but maybe I am confused???

Diabolical and premeditated for sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
Besides his info at the bottom, which is found all over the net, I found that he helped identify 184 out of 189 victims from the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon. Maybe he left UT to work for the government.

http://www.theabfa.org/diplomates.html

Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil
(301) 319-0000
thank you for looking Titch

Anytime! I'm worried but I know the Prosecution can handle it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 08:42:26 PM
Besides his info at the bottom, which is found all over the net, I found that he helped identify 184 out of 189 victims from the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon. Maybe he left UT to work for the government.

http://www.theabfa.org/diplomates.html

Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil
(301) 319-0000
thank you for looking Titch

Anytime! I'm worried but I know the Prosecution can handle it.
I have no proof, but you know that feeling when you know something just aint right?
and it wasnt his dyed hair or his looks.. something isnt right


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Aurelia7 on June 18, 2011, 08:45:43 PM
got some "technical" questions if someone would be kind enough to help me

So the jurors are not allowed to talk amongst themselves about the case - even at night & on Sundays?

Do they mingle with each other at night & on Sundays or stay in a secluded room by themselves?

I understand if they need a transcript during deliberation they can ask for it but if they're not taking notes how in the heck are they going to remember dates & pertinent points.  After awhile it all has to run together.  I always thought ALL of the transcripts were there in the deliberation room & they just kind went over everything again.

thx for helping me - I just don't have time these days to spend hours researching - figure you smart monkeys could answer it in about 30 seconds!

Beth, I think this didn't get answered because you posted right in the middle of the Super Saturday Smackdown.  I'm no expert, but I'll take a stab at it:  It is my understanding that jurors are never allowed to talk about the case amongst themselves prior to deliberations.  I don't know at all if they mingle beyond lunch breaks but do believe that they are secluded at the hotel from outsiders with exception of family members visiting.  The jurors are allowed to take notes during the trial, but the notebooks have to remain on their court room seats while court is in recess.

I hope that helped.  And hopefully another monkey here can provide better insight.




OMG, I finally figured out why they like to "sidebar" so much. there's a hookah over there, and Bozo will do anything for another hit. And today, Judge is not in a good mood. He should have a ruler out for hand smackin'.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  LOL...I was sure you were kidding, but when they went to sidebar I found myself looking for said hookah.  Hee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 08:46:05 PM
The other thing that stood out for me when Spitz was testifying is when Jeff asked him if he knew about the events before death and he said "you mean about giving her to the Nanny?".

The dufense has not even shared with him the new molested, drowning,Vasco,  Kronkafied theory that they are using.  Spitz is still spinning the tale of the Nanny who applied duct tape to Caylee rather than V2 of what happened according to the dufense.

My daughter walked by my computer when Mumbles was on and her reaction was "who is Mumbledore"?


Except the drowning theory. They must have mentioned that, because he said he "saw a pool and realized there could have been a drowning" or something to that effect. I mean, this is like saying "I saw a dog and thought maybe it mauled her." IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING. But he (the witness) also said "All pieces of the puzzle must fit". Well, how does the duct tape fit with drowning, or mauling, or even choking on food?!" He contridicted himself with that, and I hope the jury caught it!


OMG~Can't believe you picked that as one of something he would state. I lived in Memphis when the West Memphis Three case happend and it was a horrific crime, I remember Spitz theory about dogs and the 3 boys and thought it was insanity, the boys were not missing but about 18 hrs before found, hot tied with their own shoe laces and dumped in a creek in Robin Hood Park, yet Spitz thought their injuried were consistent with a dog mauling...no chit!

 ::snipping2::

I am copying and pasting her transcribed notes below so you can read about how Spitz believes a large dog was responsible for inflicting the injuries on the boys, including fractures to their skulls.

 ::snipping2::


ME.....but then the dogs put the 3 boys back in the creek? Wonder if the dog hog tied them too ::MonkeyMad::

 ::snipping2::

this, Defense then presented a number of photos of the boys and the injuries they sustained. . Per Spitz, all of the wounds were attributed to animal predation. He said it was the work of a large animal, most likely a dog. He even said that some injuries were consistent with having been made by minnows [such as injuries to the lips, eyelids, and ears of the boys]. When asked if injuries found on the ears could be attributed to having been forced to perform oral sex, Spitz disagreed with this as he said injuries would have had to have been found on both ears, not just one. Other injuries, such as indentations on the skulls and extension fractures, were caused by an animal shaking a victim in its mouth, causing them to strike nearby objects [trees, rocks, the ditch itself]. There were also puncture wounds attributed to the 'lake knife,' which Spitz said were made by the incisors of a large animal. He was asked repeatedly if any of the injuries were made by other 'mechanisms' such as a knife, tree limb, fist, etc., and he steadfastly kept with the theory that all injuries were consistent with animal predation. Burnett and the state also kept asking Spitz to name the 'large animal' he kept referring to, and again, he stated it was a dog or other type of animal like a dog [coyote]. Spitz said he was not certain what animal had done it, but he was certain it wasn't a knife or other weapon. The injuries to Christopher Byers' genital area as well as those to Stevie Branch's lip were also shown consistent with a dog or dog-like animal. There were also injuries to the scalp that Spitz said held tooth marks. Death, according to Peretti, occurred as a result of the injuries sustained by physical injuries. However, Spitz insisted that death occurred due to all three victims drowning. He also stated that the bites attributed to dogs could 'pass' as knife wounds. Burnett asked if Spitz would have considered the deaths 'homicides,' and if he would note thusly on the death certificates. To this, Spitz answered that he would have noted death was 'undetermined.' Other wounds attributed to animals were the injuries to Stevie Branch's face. Spitz determined these were caused by the rough tongue of an animal 'licking' the face. Spitz was asked about Fogleman's 'grapefruit' exercise during the original hearing. He was then asked if this was something he would do. To which he responded that he would not. He said it would have and should have been appropriate to use the skin or bones of a pig [which, he said, were closest in skin consistency to humans].

 ::snipping2::

What trash, UNDETERMINED DEATH???? They were hog tied, naked and tossed in a creek or ditch that was flooded IIRC along with their bikes, how on earth is tha not a MURDER???


http://paradiselost3.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1865.0




Funny you say this bc I followed this case closely. DNA testing wasn't intricate like it's become now compared to back then. None of the DNA from the crime scene is linked to any of the 3 men (were teens at the time) that have been in prison for about 20 years. The Innocense Project supplied testing and alot of famous people got on board to get all 3 of these now men new trials for exhonoration. You see, some DNA found in a sperm sample taken off of one of the young boy victims was traced to that young boy's stepfather. Because of the notoriety associated with the case, several media outlets jumped onboard with bring anti dp. Remember back when Dawson's Creek was on tv? Well, they wore tshirts asking for their exhonorations. They were the WB. Warner owns alot. They merged with CBS. I believe they are all affiliated with each other: TRUtv, CNN, etc. Most are anti dp. This is why I jeep harping about anti dp groups. They stick together & the money can't be compared. If Casey ends up getting the dp, the Innocense Project will pay for her appeal. They honestly believe that if just 1 person is sentenced to death and that person ends up being exhonorated due to better technology, but that person has already died, then they shouldn't be sentenced to death at all...if there's even an inkling of a question.

I think of something happening to my children & it scares me that I know I believe in vengence.

I did too, I had a young child and worked downtown and from the 27th floor we could see West Memphis and all the kerfluffle, I know the celebrities are all over exonerating these boys, but I had a friend send me Jesse Miskelly's 4rd confession and have to say I think the 3 in jail are guilty. I know they found DNA (although unsure it was from sperm since the boys were in found in a creek) of one of the boy's stefather, but I believe it was in a shoelace the boys were hog tied with, and as a parent I am sure my DNA would be on my kids shoelaces and many other items, add to that all of Damien Echols past problems and trouble, his stays in the mental wards not just in Ar, but in Oregon (going from memory here, but it was either OR ar CA), and I could see how he couls do something this heinous...his family history etc., even the fact his mother was afriad of him and though he coulde harm the other kids makes me confident they are all guilty. I do know about all the issues raised about the man in the fast food restaurant with blood all over him, but that park wasn't a place IMO a drifter would just wander into, more of a hangout for locals.

If the innocence project jumps in to try and save Casey I will spit nails across the room....

ITA with you about that feeling of vengance, been there and done that and my son wasn't murdered just sexually abused, but the idea of driving over his monster, backing up and smashing his brain un between two cars crossed my mind once when I saw him in a parking lot.....obviously I didn't do it, but the fact I considered it scared me, and I had my kids in the car. My son was 4 and asked if we could throw eggs at him and I said no, then he asked why can't he just die or be killed", all I could think of was crap....he was reading my mind. I knew I had to move so I'd never see that monster again and my son would never accidentally run into him (literally and metaphorically)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: klaasend on June 18, 2011, 08:46:26 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::
Wonder how far back the computer forensics people went?  Casey would have had to look up the lot number.  And if I remember correctly, computer forensics went back to March.  This is either a coincidence ... or more proof of premeditation ... and premeditated way before anyone thought? ...

Didn't you dedicated monkeys also have a discussion way back when about 2 properties right there containing the names Zenaida and Gonzalez?  Seems to me I remember some talk about that but maybe I am confused???

Diabolical and premeditated for sure.

Yes, SM front page but there was more to that theory than the 8905.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/ (http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 08:47:50 PM
Besides his info at the bottom, which is found all over the net, I found that he helped identify 184 out of 189 victims from the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon. Maybe he left UT to work for the government.

http://www.theabfa.org/diplomates.html

Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil
(301) 319-0000
  ::MonkeyAngel:: Bless Dr Rodriguez for identifying victims of the 9/11 attack. ::MonkeyTears::

My question is though, why would the military let him become a (non paid) witness for the prosecution of a baby killer? If I were Mr Rodriguez I would run faster than a rabbit being chased by a whippet because that is what he will become when Mr Ashton gets to him.

I am very dumb about the military, but I just don't see them letting their experts become witnesses in a non military/war trial.


JMSO JSM

Could be that's why he's not getting paid.  Maybe taking vacation days for this.
Your right thou, why would he even get involved.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 08:48:02 PM
Caylees body was found 8905 Suburban Dr.....Caylees birthday 8/9/05 coincidence ?

 ::MonkeyEek::
Wonder how far back the computer forensics people went?  Casey would have had to look up the lot number.  And if I remember correctly, computer forensics went back to March.  This is either a coincidence ... or more proof of premeditation ... and premeditated way before anyone thought? ...

Didn't you dedicated monkeys also have a discussion way back when about 2 properties right there containing the names Zenaida and Gonzalez?  Seems to me I remember some talk about that but maybe I am confused???

Diabolical and premeditated for sure.
Here's the article;http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 08:48:10 PM
https://thejbmission.wordpress.com/ (https://thejbmission.wordpress.com/)
Monkeys recieve a mention from this pro Bobo site  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:48:36 PM
Quote
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Werner Spitz complimented Jeff Ashton on his cross examination afterward.. Baez pushed me out of his way as I interviewed Spitz unhappy

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Legally isn't a "push" an assault? ::piggy::

Wow just wow   Well, yea it could be considered as one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 08:50:10 PM
I feel the same way IM. The feeling raises the little hairs on the back of my neck. He is part of a select group of forensic pathologists/anthropologists/examiners that firmly believes evidence needs to be completely proven 100% or the dp shouldn't be on the table. What some people may not realize is that if the State wasn't putting the dp on the table, these famous experts woulda stayed home & declined coming on board. That's my very honest opinion. You see, I don't think any care if Casey is sentenced to multiple years in prison, it's obvious she's guilty, but the Defense still wins even if she's sentenced to lwop...bc in that case they'd have spared her life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 08:54:03 PM
someone else feels the same way


http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6)
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysgirl 
Maybe it was the way he started. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. to start out saying "I'm an unpaid consultant" just said to me that he was going to go against what Dr. Vass/Dr. Bass said. What I want to know is why he left the body farm. something is just not right about this guy, IMO.



ITA   an axe to grind for certain & he better rethink how much he wants to lie after this deposition.   His intent has nothing to do with the evidence in this case & he lied his bum off on the stand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 08:56:43 PM
I feel the same way IM. The feeling raises the little hairs on the back of my neck. He is part of a select group of forensic pathologists/anthropologists/examiners that firmly believes evidence needs to be completely proven 100% or the dp shouldn't be on the table. What some people may not realize is that if the State wasn't putting the dp on the table, these famous experts woulda stayed home & declined coming on board. That's my very honest opinion. You see, I don't think any care if Casey is sentenced to multiple years in prison, it's obvious she's guilty, but the Defense still wins even if she's sentenced to lwop...bc in that case they'd have spared her life.

I agree that is part of it, but also think they are all about fame and money....not a doubt in my mind they sold their soul to the devil and wondering how they sleep at night. FGS, he broke Caylee's skull and acted like , hell I don't remember that but oh well. I wanted to jump thru that screen and chew him up and spit him out, he had NO respect for her little body that had already been desecrated enough.  ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 08:58:01 PM
Omg IM, (((hugs))) to you & your son.

For some reason, I'm remembering something about the stepfather's DNA found in sperm on a victim. Maybe I'm confusing it with another case? It'll bug me now... I just remember the new results that came out about the DNA. I must be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Aurelia7 on June 18, 2011, 08:58:28 PM
 ::snipping2:: (TAQS)

Here's the article;http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/

Woah!  That's so bizarre.  So whatever came of this theory?  Is it just an odd coincedence?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2011, 09:02:21 PM
::snipping2:: (TAQS)

Here's the article;http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/

Woah!  That's so bizarre.  So whatever came of this theory?  Is it just an odd coincedence?
Don't remember who I'm quoting but it goes something like this;
"One person knows and the bitch ain't talking"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 09:04:00 PM
Oooooh, I'm remembering something else. Caylee's skull was very white, right? It was underwater & tossed around in garbage bags, so it should be discolored somewhat. But didn't an examiner comment on how white her skull was? Usually that can happen if a skull and/or bones are left in direct sunlight for a prolonged period of time. However, Caylee's skull was in shaded brush that was underwater. So how in the world can any so called expert discount chloroform? If it was injected, it could gave bleached her skull...or no?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:05:55 PM
Reminder:  FWIW   Judge Jeannie is having a 2 hour special right now on Foxnews cable & it repeats later

Holly Bristow from Orlando just gave a run down of what transpired today.   Now Jeanine is talking about the defense's wild accusations


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
Oooooh, I'm remembering something else. Caylee's skull was very white, right? It was underwater & tossed around in garbage bags, so it should be discolored somewhat. But didn't an examiner comment on how white her skull was? Usually that can happen if a skull and/or bones are left in direct sunlight for a prolonged period of time. However, Caylee's skull was in shaded brush that was underwater. So how in the world can any so called expert discount chloroform? If it was injected, it could gave bleached her skull...or no?

If she wasnt in a blanket & then three bags it would have been stained with dirt all over it.   The plant life grew thru the bags.  Excellent point for the fools that are testifying for the defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:08:43 PM
Omg IM, (((hugs))) to you & your son.

For some reason, I'm remembering something about the stepfather's DNA found in sperm on a victim. Maybe I'm confusing it with another case? It'll bug me now... I just remember the new results that came out about the DNA. I must be wrong.
Thanks :)

You could be right about that, it's just I know about the other DNA found, but it's possible that something else has been found.....but since they were in water I'd think sperm would wash off, but I could be wrong on that too...

In 2007, DNA collected from the crime scene was tested. None was found to match DNA from Echols, Baldwin, nor Misskelley.[41] In addition, a hair "not inconsistent with" Terry Hobbs, stepfather to Stevie Branch, was found tied into the knots used to bind one of the victims.[42][43] The prosecutors, while conceding that no DNA evidence ties the accused to the crime scene, has said that, "The State stands behind its convictions of Echols and his codefendants."[44]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three#DNA_testing_and_new_physical_evidence_.282007-2010.29


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:09:45 PM
Oooooh, I'm remembering something else. Caylee's skull was very white, right? It was underwater & tossed around in garbage bags, so it should be discolored somewhat. But didn't an examiner comment on how white her skull was? Usually that can happen if a skull and/or bones are left in direct sunlight for a prolonged period of time. However, Caylee's skull was in shaded brush that was underwater. So how in the world can any so called expert discount chloroform? If it was injected, it could gave bleached her skull...or no?

I've never heard that chloroform could whiten a skull. Not saying it's impossible, but as far as I know, only things like bleach whiten a skull, after it's found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
Reminder:  FWIW   Judge Jeannie is having a 2 hour special right now on Foxnews cable & it repeats later

Holly Bristow from Orlando just gave a run down of what transpired today.   Now Jeanine is talking about the defense's wild accusations
Thanks for the heads up.. I was watching HLN recap bugobys testimony from yesterday..as I scour the internet for Dr Rodriquez


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:12:39 PM
Reminder:  FWIW   Judge Jeannie is having a 2 hour special right now on Foxnews cable & it repeats later

Holly Bristow from Orlando just gave a run down of what transpired today.   Now Jeanine is talking about the defense's wild accusations

My mother called me about this being on for 2 hours so I'm sure my phone will be ringing off the hook almost every commercial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:13:19 PM
Nothing for nothing, yup it was Judge Jeanine that Leonard went to Hopespring Dr with because on her show she is seen with Leonard with a tape measure in the Suburban woods as it went to commercial  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:14:31 PM
someone else feels the same way


http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6)
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysgirl 
Maybe it was the way he started. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. to start out saying "I'm an unpaid consultant" just said to me that he was going to go against what Dr. Vass/Dr. Bass said. What I want to know is why he left the body farm. something is just not right about this guy, IMO.



ITA   an axe to grind for certain & he better rethink how much he wants to lie after this deposition.   His intent has nothing to do with the evidence in this case & he lied his bum off on the stand.
I hope he got a taste of whats to come in his depo today.. Something made him leave Dr bass and I dont think it was a good parting of the ways


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Reminder:  FWIW   Judge Jeannie is having a 2 hour special right now on Foxnews cable & it repeats later

Holly Bristow from Orlando just gave a run down of what transpired today.   Now Jeanine is talking about the defense's wild accusations

My mother called me about this being on for 2 hours so I'm sure my phone will be ringing off the hook almost every commercial.

I know how that is, there is someone special in my life that we go back and forth on the phone all the time.   My daughter has even called me from work for updates & hubby for 3 years told me I was obsessing over this case but yet he's watching & reading the updates in the evening.....pffft


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:17:03 PM
Mark Geragos, another idiot....Judge Jeanine talking they should have made a deal if it was an accidental drowning & the defendant dismissed it rudely at that during her jail visit with her "surprise, surprise."   They did have an opportunity to make a deal & before Caylee was recovered they even took the DP off the table.    ITS SO ABSURD   

My God common sense people!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: fatcatlurker on June 18, 2011, 09:18:26 PM
::snipping2:: (TAQS)

Here's the article;http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/

Woah!  That's so bizarre.  So whatever came of this theory?  Is it just an odd coincedence?
Don't remember who I'm quoting but it goes something like this;
"One person knows and the bitch ain't talking"

Thank you Alagary and Klaas for the articles. 

As to the the talking...someone was on that phone when DC was searching that area prior to Caylee being found.  Makes me wonder what would have happened if they had found her.  And oh yeah - just who was he talking to that day so close to Caylee's body?  Very interesting and pure evil "if" any truth is there.

Video of DC;  http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/13/anthonys-private-investigator-dominic-casey-video-searching-for-caylee-anthony-it-would-be-right-here/

Mere coincidence or something more I guess we may never know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:19:41 PM
Reminder:  FWIW   Judge Jeannie is having a 2 hour special right now on Foxnews cable & it repeats later

Holly Bristow from Orlando just gave a run down of what transpired today.   Now Jeanine is talking about the defense's wild accusations

My mother called me about this being on for 2 hours so I'm sure my phone will be ringing off the hook almost every commercial.

I know how that is, there is someone special in my life that we go back and forth on the phone all the time.   My daughter has even called me from work for updates & hubby for 3 years told me I was obsessing over this case but yet he's watching & reading the updates in the evening.....pffft

My mother despises this kind of stuff but she know I obsess over this case.
She also know I don't normally watch FOX.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:21:07 PM
Omg IM, (((hugs))) to you & your son.

For some reason, I'm remembering something about the stepfather's DNA found in sperm on a victim. Maybe I'm confusing it with another case? It'll bug me now... I just remember the new results that came out about the DNA. I must be wrong.

Ok, I AM OCD!! It has been so long since this WM3 case I had to go back and check about the sperm, they didn't find it on the victim, but they did find what they thought was sperm on the jeans of one of the boys..I am just like you, I knew it would bug me if I didn't check it out!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:25:51 PM
And another thing, all these TV blabbers say the only way to prove Casey's allegations is if she takes the stand...hellllooooo just because this lying, murdering slore says something does NOT make it so, she's a proven pathological liar.  She never sought assistant prior to her crimes, she never accused her father to her ex boyfriends...ITS A LIE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:29:04 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

??????

She crazy??

that's hysterical!  thanks for making me fall off my chair though!

I often wonder about her, lol.  How could he have 'owned it' if he can't remember where he is?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:29:33 PM
Did they just say Caylee Anthony's godmother knows who killed the 2 yr. old? I was on the phone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
Aphrodite_Jones Aphrodite Jones
#caseyanthony Ashton tried to rattle Spitz -- but didn't get far. Spitz owned that courtroom today!

http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones (http://twitter.com/#!/Aphrodite_Jones)

??????

She crazy??

that's hysterical!  thanks for making me fall off my chair though!

I often wonder about her, lol.  How could he have 'owned it' if he can't remember where he is?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

errr sorry for invading your quote box!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:29:47 PM
She would never last up there with Jeff Ashton questioning her  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:29:58 PM
Who is Caylee's Godmother?

Next on Judge Jeanine supposedly this person is going to say she knows who killed Caylee.   Im drawing a blank at the moment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
That would be killed, not milled.

Fixed typo = San


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 09:30:31 PM
Omg IM, (((hugs))) to you & your son.

For some reason, I'm remembering something about the stepfather's DNA found in sperm on a victim. Maybe I'm confusing it with another case? It'll bug me now... I just remember the new results that came out about the DNA. I must be wrong.
Thanks :)

You could be right about that, it's just I know about the other DNA found, but it's possible that something else has been found.....but since they were in water I'd think sperm would wash off, but I could be wrong on that too...

In 2007, DNA collected from the crime scene was tested. None was found to match DNA from Echols, Baldwin, nor Misskelley.[41] In addition, a hair "not inconsistent with" Terry Hobbs, stepfather to Stevie Branch, was found tied into the knots used to bind one of the victims.[42][43] The prosecutors, while conceding that no DNA evidence ties the accused to the crime scene, has said that, "The State stands behind its convictions of Echols and his codefendants."[44]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three#DNA_testing_and_new_physical_evidence_.282007-2010.29

Thank you IM! I was misremembering it! I think the Prosecution stands behind their convictions bc of Miskelly's statement, which he is "slow" or something. Very low iq if I remember right. Ok, done with the OT before we get in trouble...

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:33:19 PM
She would never last up there with Jeff Ashton questioning her  ::boxingcasey2::

O hell no & she can cry and do exactly what she did with the detective & after her GJ indictment arrest.   "I dont care if you have a mountain of evidence..."   Bottom line she brushed off the idea of an accidental drowning not once but TWICE - at Universal for her voluntary interview when Yuri spoke of dealing with parents that suffer children that drown and during that jail visit when instead when her mother spoke of rumor about a drowning she said "surprise, surprise."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 18, 2011, 09:33:55 PM
someone else feels the same way


http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6)
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysgirl 
Maybe it was the way he started. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. to start out saying "I'm an unpaid consultant" just said to me that he was going to go against what Dr. Vass/Dr. Bass said. What I want to know is why he left the body farm. something is just not right about this guy, IMO.


I found this, from Turbo in Dec. 2010
Here:  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WFWw-AIQbnEJ:scaredmonkeys.net/index.php%3Ftopic%3D8873.160%3Bwap2+%22william.c.rodriguez1%40us.army.mil%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

SunnyinTX:
Quote from: TURBOTHINK on December 01, 2010, 09:27:03 PM

Rodriquez is NOT a co-founder of The Body Farm at the University of Tennessee. He was an assistant in the Anthropology Dept when Bill Bass started the Body Farm He got his PH.D. from UT and went into the military as a medical examiner. I will be writing the media to tell them to check their facts before they print any such garbage.

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

thanks for clearing that up Turbo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:35:05 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby (http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby)
@Aphrodite_Jones You must not have been watching the same #CaseyAnthony trial as me.
1 hour ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 18, 2011, 09:35:51 PM
got some "technical" questions if someone would be kind enough to help me

So the jurors are not allowed to talk amongst themselves about the case - even at night & on Sundays?

Do they mingle with each other at night & on Sundays or stay in a secluded room by themselves?

I understand if they need a transcript during deliberation they can ask for it but if they're not taking notes how in the heck are they going to remember dates & pertinent points.  After awhile it all has to run together.  I always thought ALL of the transcripts were there in the deliberation room & they just kind went over everything again.

thx for helping me - I just don't have time these days to spend hours researching - figure you smart monkeys could answer it in about 30 seconds!

Beth, I think this didn't get answered because you posted right in the middle of the Super Saturday Smackdown.  I'm no expert, but I'll take a stab at it:  It is my understanding that jurors are never allowed to talk about the case amongst themselves prior to deliberations.  I don't know at all if they mingle beyond lunch breaks but do believe that they are secluded at the hotel from outsiders with exception of family members visiting.  The jurors are allowed to take notes during the trial, but the notebooks have to remain on their court room seats while court is in recess.

I hope that helped.  And hopefully another monkey here can provide better insight.




OMG, I finally figured out why they like to "sidebar" so much. there's a hookah over there, and Bozo will do anything for another hit. And today, Judge is not in a good mood. He should have a ruler out for hand smackin'.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  LOL...I was sure you were kidding, but when they went to sidebar I found myself looking for said hookah.  Hee.


Oh my gosh I know!  Baby was napping & I usually nap when she does - Nope not today!  I hit "post" and all he77 broke loose LOL    This helps me ALOT thank you very much!  I gave a deposition over the phone once and sued someone in small claims court but other than that I'm clueless.  Pre-baby I would have spent hours investigating - now?  not so much.  Thx again I really appreciate your help!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:36:37 PM
someone else feels the same way


http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6)
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysgirl 
Maybe it was the way he started. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. to start out saying "I'm an unpaid consultant" just said to me that he was going to go against what Dr. Vass/Dr. Bass said. What I want to know is why he left the body farm. something is just not right about this guy, IMO.


I found this, from Turbo in Dec. 2010
Here:  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WFWw-AIQbnEJ:scaredmonkeys.net/index.php%3Ftopic%3D8873.160%3Bwap2+%22william.c.rodriguez1%40us.army.mil%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

SunnyinTX:
Quote from: TURBOTHINK on December 01, 2010, 09:27:03 PM

Rodriquez is NOT a co-founder of The Body Farm at the University of Tennessee. He was an assistant in the Anthropology Dept when Bill Bass started the Body Farm He got his PH.D. from UT and went into the military as a medical examiner. I will be writing the media to tell them to check their facts before they print any such garbage.

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

thanks for clearing that up Turbo
THANK YOU!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: luvmyboys on June 18, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 09:41:54 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

[/quote

That is hysterical & I needed something to cheer me up because Im totally bumming right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:42:51 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

omg.. BEST ONE YET
warning.. put a diaper on first  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 18, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm


That is just too funny and I KNOW HE HAS TO BE THINKING THAT.  He has to be. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:47:45 PM
Thank God Joey Jackson is on Jeanine Piro because the rest of the guests are pro-defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 09:48:59 PM
She would never last up there with Jeff Ashton questioning her  ::boxingcasey2::

O hell no & she can cry and do exactly what she did with the detective & after her GJ indictment arrest.   "I dont care if you have a mountain of evidence..."   Bottom line she brushed off the idea of an accidental drowning not once but TWICE - at Universal for her voluntary interview when Yuri spoke of dealing with parents that suffer children that drown and during that jail visit when instead when her mother spoke of rumor about a drowning she said "surprise, surprise."

Actually sept 08 was given a plea deal and turned that down too.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:49:00 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 09:49:42 PM
The Godmother question hasn't been answered so far.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 09:52:26 PM
I have lost about 8 lbs since the trial began. All I have done besides comment here is watch online, drink tons of water and exercise every 15 mins.. yay KC is helping me lose my last 20!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 18, 2011, 09:52:28 PM
Casey Anthony Murder Trial Day 22: Defense Attorney Jose Baez Threatened with Contempt Charges by Judge Perry for Violating Court’s Order Rules of Discovery … Dr. William Rodriguez Expert Witness Fiasco

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/06/18/casey-anthony-murder-trial-day-22-defense-attorney-jose-baez-threatened-with-contempt-charges-by-judge-perry-for-violating-courts-order-rules-of-discovery-dr-william-rodriquez-expert-witness-f/

Quote
Day 22 – Murder trial of tot mom Casey Anthony: No Way Jose, Baez scolded by Judge Perry and maybe held in contempt.


Judge Belvin Perry reads defense attorney Jose Baez the riot act in court today … will take up possible contempt charges against Baez after trial is over. Will Baez be found in contempt of court and be sanctioned again? Not only is Baez too inexperienced for a capital murder trial, his arrogance that he thinks he is the next coming of F. Lee Bailey is beyond insane.

Quote
Dr. Rodriguez was going to discuss the positioning of the duct tape and that it could not be determined as to the exact positioning of the duct tape on the body. None of which was in his report. The doctor was asked by Perry when he formulated that opinion of the duct tape. His response was early on when he saw the pictures. Dr. Rodriguez stated that the pics were provided to him by Jose Baez prior to his doing his report that was dated February 21. Then he was asked the $64,000 question by Judge Perry as to why he did not include any of the findings and opinions of the duct tape in his report? He stated that he noted it in his examination but did not note it in his report. Judge Perry asked if he shared that opinion regarding the duct tape with any one of the defense team. His answer, I did.  He stated he informed Mr. Baez (VIDEO – 9:00). Judge Perry then asked the witness whether he was informed by the defense, namely Mr. Baez, of this court’s order requiring all opinions that experts are to give in this case should be placed in their reports. Dr. Rodriguez’s answer was no, he was not aware of it and that he was never shown a copy of the court’s order. Baez’s expert just threw Jose Baez under the bus, how does the tire tread taste Jose?

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 09:53:46 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!
::MonkeyEek:: I know, I literally almost fell on the floor....still in shock


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Love2Read on June 18, 2011, 09:54:44 PM
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/beth1970b/mortimerbaez1.jpg)

I knew he reminded me of someone - mortimer mouse! (Mickey's nemesis)


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: wreck on June 18, 2011, 09:59:10 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!
::MonkeyEek:: I know, I literally almost fell on the floor....still in shock
Isn't Cyril Wecht a bitter enemy of Baden? (Rivals for TV and expert witnessing) --- That is probably why!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:00:43 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!

Making a fool of Dr Baden too while he's at it.   Psychologist on just now was right on the money as well.   The only pro defense fools were Mark Geragos (Scott Peterson attorney, no shock there) & Dr Baden who is also risking his career backing up his lunatic wife  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:00:46 PM
Now even cartoon characters are being defamed by Casey Anthony!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:02:18 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!

Making a fool of Dr Baden too while he's at it.   Psychologist on just now was right on the money as well.   The only pro defense fools were Mark Geragos (Scott Peterson attorney, no shock there) & Dr Baden who is also risking his career backing up his lunatic wife  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yeah but Wecht agreed that the skull should have been cut open.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:03:44 PM
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/beth1970b/mortimerbaez1.jpg)

I knew he reminded me of someone - mortimer mouse! (Mickey's nemesis)


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

OMG, he looks like him and dresses in chit brown just like Bozo too ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 10:03:59 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!

Who's that, my brain went blank.... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 10:05:16 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!

Who's that, my brain went blank.... ::MonkeyShocked::
4get it, I googled him, which I should of donw before I posted.
Sry Klaas ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: DonFL on June 18, 2011, 10:05:18 PM
Judge Janine is whack too.  Body was found 15 blocks from her house??  Huh??  Earlier she said "will Caylee have to testify".   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:05:23 PM
The Godmother question hasn't been answered so far.

It wasnt Kio Marie was it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: wreck on June 18, 2011, 10:05:43 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!

Who's that, my brain went blank.... ::MonkeyShocked::
TV Medical Examiner to the stars


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:05:49 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!

Making a fool of Dr Baden too while he's at it.   Psychologist on just now was right on the money as well.   The only pro defense fools were Mark Geragos (Scott Peterson attorney, no shock there) & Dr Baden who is also risking his career backing up his lunatic wife  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yeah but Wecht agreed that the skull should have been cut open.
It makes no sense to open it if the brain is gone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:06:08 PM
Judge Janine is whack too.  Body was found 15 blocks from her house??  Huh??  Earlier she said "will Caylee have to testify".   

Again she screwed that up & she was down there live with Leonard last week!   15 houses, ya know around the corner from the Anthony's house...geez


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: 4 Donks on June 18, 2011, 10:06:31 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

Rodriguez's CV starts on page 280

He claims co-founder of body farm and his references include Dr Bass and Henry Lee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:06:56 PM
I cannot believe Dr Cyril Wecht is 100% behind Dr Vass!!!!

Making a fool of Dr Baden too while he's at it.   Psychologist on just now was right on the money as well.   The only pro defense fools were Mark Geragos (Scott Peterson attorney, no shock there) & Dr Baden who is also risking his career backing up his lunatic wife  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yeah but Wecht agreed that the skull should have been cut open.


Right, no need & x-rays were taken & debris was seen
It makes no sense to open it if the brain is gone


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:09:50 PM
The Godmother question hasn't been answered so far.

It wasnt Kio Marie was it?

They never brought it up as far as I heard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:09:56 PM
Go Mark Furham !!!!!   He just raised a valid & brilliant point


If the duct tape was put on after decomposition it would appear to be newer, shiner, maybe prints possible.  It means the duct tape was with the body in those woods for just shy of a half a year

Jennifer Barringer needs to STFU, go get some more botox or perfume...she is useless


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 18, 2011, 10:10:14 PM
The Godmother question hasn't been answered so far.

It wasnt Kio Marie was it?

They never brought it up as far as I heard.

Yea, Im waiting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:12:02 PM
Godmother supposedly coming up soon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:16:57 PM
Go Mark Furham !!!!!   He just raised a valid & brilliant point


If the duct tape was put on after decomposition it would appear to be newer, shiner, maybe prints possible.  It means the duct tape was with the body in those woods for just shy of a half a year

Jennifer Barringer needs to STFU, go get some more botox or perfume...she is useless
God she looks like Heidi from Spencer and heidi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 18, 2011, 10:19:36 PM
The Godmother question hasn't been answered so far.

It wasnt Kio Marie was it?
That was my first guess when I thought of who knew (meaning to me, who thought about the area in the wood)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: DayOldDonuts on June 18, 2011, 10:20:46 PM
I thought ashton wa saying that the skull that was broke was the skull in court room today. And did he say that skull was not caylee tha he had today. Idk just asking. Cause that is how I took it

I thought the same thing.  The skull in court wasn't Caylee's, it was an adult's.  I went back and watched the videos and it appears that Ashton is getting the blown up photo of Caylee's skull and that is what he is referring to.  So I guess Spitz did break Caylee's skull.   ::MonkeyTears::

http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/28281093/index.html)

Part 6 around 6 minutes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:21:03 PM
I have to wonder if Caylee's body hadn't been found sooner, that DNA would have been found on the duct tape.
I work in a lab, and when wearing gloves, it's very difficult to handle scotch tape or any kind of tape without getting it all tangled up with gloves and
ripping them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 18, 2011, 10:21:53 PM
this jennifer barringer chick is another one drinking casey's kool aid. what is with all of these pro defense people?!?! do they realize how stupid they look? i'd love to know how many of these defense talking heads would let casey babysit their children


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Curly on June 18, 2011, 10:21:59 PM
The Godmother question hasn't been answered so far.

It wasnt Kio Marie was it?
That was my first guess when I thought of who knew (meaning to me, who thought about the area in the wood)

Yes, me too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2011, 10:23:24 PM
The skull in court was an adult replica.. But Spitzie did an autopsy of the skull in the funeral home, cut it in half and cracked it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: sunshine12 on June 18, 2011, 10:25:31 PM
hah this guy (who looks like William macy) from the national inqurier said caylees middle name is after Kio Marie...ummm no it's the same as cindy and caseys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 18, 2011, 10:42:39 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 10:55:53 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

Rodriguez's CV starts on page 280

He claims co-founder of body farm and his references include Dr Bass and Henry Lee.

I agree with Turbo as far as Rodriguez being a grad student under Bass, but he did help start it as far as being there from the very beginning. Rodriguez documented the maggots, larvae, blowflies, etc. I usually can't stand wiki but here's a quick link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility

Snip:
The University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility, better known as the Body Farm and sometimes seen as the Forensic Anthropology Facility,[1] was started in late 1971 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez as a facility for study of the decomposition of human remains. It is located a few miles from downtown Knoxville, Tennessee, USA, behind the University of Tennessee Medical Center.

Snip:
In the early 1980s, Bass began building his facility with a small group of students. His initial institution consisted of a fenced-off, 256-square-foot (23.8 m2) slab of concrete with a small, windowless shed on top, where tools and surgical instruments would be stored. A front porch measuring 160 square feet (15 m2) was reserved as a spot to lay bodies out for decomposition studies. In the summer of 1981, Bass finally got the chance to use this facility with his first donated research subject: a 73 year old man who had died of emphysema and heart disease. Labeled "1-81" for confidentiality, Bass' first research subject provided information on the four stages that occur during the decomposition of a human body. Bass uses this naming convention, the designated number of the body and the year it was obtained, specifically for donated research subjects. Bass uses the reverse convention, "year-number", for the real world cases he works.[7]

Bill Rodriguez, one of Bass' graduate students, wrote his doctoral thesis on information gathered from this facility. Each day, he notated the presence of various insects on human cadavers and other information like changes in the body, and the timing of each of these.[1] Rodriguez noticed that blow-flies immediately swarmed carcass in study and began mass-producing eggs all over its orifices. However, other insects were also attracted to the freshly rotting body including yellow jackets and wasps. Once the blow-fly eggs turned into maggots, beetles too began assembling on the body not only to feed on the body itself but on its co-inhabitants, the maggots, as well.[8] In addition, the four stages of decomposition were systemically characterized in a scientific, orderly manner beginning with "1-81". During the fresh stage, maggots fed and multiplied on the corpse. The skin of the upper jaw and mandible stretch into what looks like a smile, and the hair and skin are still securely attached to the skull. After a couple days, the body enters the bloat stage, which is caused by the gases that the bacteria in the intestines give off as they feed on the dead tissues. Next, the body slowly decomposes in the decay stage until it finally reaches the dry stage in which the body has basically become a skeleton. About a month passed before "1-81" entered the dry stage. Microbes and insects had consumed most of his soft tissues, and the sun had dried out what was left on the bones.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 10:58:31 PM
Judge Janine is whack too.  Body was found 15 blocks from her house??  Huh??  Earlier she said "will Caylee have to testify".   

Again she screwed that up & she was down there live with Leonard last week!   15 houses, ya know around the corner from the Anthony's house...geez

I have no patience for the people doing these shows that can't get the already proven facts locked into their heads before they open their stupid mouths!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2011, 11:00:27 PM
Judge Janine is whack too.  Body was found 15 blocks from her house??  Huh??  Earlier she said "will Caylee have to testify".   

Again she screwed that up & she was down there live with Leonard last week!   15 houses, ya know around the corner from the Anthony's house...geez

I have no patience for the people doing these shows that can't get the already proven facts locked into their heads before they open their stupid mouths!

ITA  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 11:01:58 PM
someone else feels the same way


http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139916&page=6)
Quote:
Originally Posted by barrysgirl 
Maybe it was the way he started. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. to start out saying "I'm an unpaid consultant" just said to me that he was going to go against what Dr. Vass/Dr. Bass said. What I want to know is why he left the body farm. something is just not right about this guy, IMO.


I found this, from Turbo in Dec. 2010
Here:  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WFWw-AIQbnEJ:scaredmonkeys.net/index.php%3Ftopic%3D8873.160%3Bwap2+%22william.c.rodriguez1%40us.army.mil%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

SunnyinTX:
Quote from: TURBOTHINK on December 01, 2010, 09:27:03 PM

Rodriquez is NOT a co-founder of The Body Farm at the University of Tennessee. He was an assistant in the Anthropology Dept when Bill Bass started the Body Farm He got his PH.D. from UT and went into the military as a medical examiner. I will be writing the media to tell them to check their facts before they print any such garbage.

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

thanks for clearing that up Turbo

 ::MonkeyCool::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility
 ::snipping2::

Early experiences
In the early 1980s, Bass began building his facility with a small group of students.
 ::snipping2::
Bill Rodriguez, one of Bass' graduate students, wrote his doctoral thesis on information gathered from this facility.


http://web.utk.edu/~anthrop/faculty/cv/Bass.pdf

 ::snipping2:: 's

138.  Rodriguez, William C. and William M. Bass
1983 Insect activity and its relationship to decay rates of human
cadavers in East Tennessee.  Journal of Forensic Sciences
28:423-432.

157.  Rodriguez, William C. and William M. Bass
1985 Decomposition of buried bodies and methods that may aid in
their location.  Journal of Forensic Sciences 30(3):836-852.

158.  Bass, William M. and William C. Rodriguez
1986 The Place of a Forensic Anthropologist in a Mass Disaster: 
The Benton Fireworks Explosion.  ABSTRACT: H15.  Program
38th Annual Meeting of the American Academy of Forensic
Sciences, p. 99.  New Orleans, Louisiana.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 18, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 18, 2011, 11:05:39 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 11:12:53 PM
Go Mark Furham !!!!!   He just raised a valid & brilliant point


If the duct tape was put on after decomposition it would appear to be newer, shiner, maybe prints possible.  It means the duct tape was with the body in those woods for just shy of a half a year

Jennifer Barringer needs to STFU, go get some more botox or perfume...she is useless

Agreed! This is the stupid sh!t that gets on my nerves! If the duct tape was placed after decomp, on the skull to hold the mandible in place, it would still be stuck to it! Freaking boats use duct tape for emergencies, my gosh! The duct tape HAD to be placed on Caylee's face prior to decomposition bc it was still attached to her hair & the mandible was still intact. The fact that the tape fell is due to the bloating of her skin during decomp which would sort of stretch it, then the skin slippage along with insect infestation takes place, the acids & gases emitting from her cadavar assists in breaking down the "glue" that held the tape in place. Any other scenario, even given that a skull is porous, does not explain why no prints or stickiness was left on the tape. There most certainly wouldn't be skin still stuck to the sticky part of the tape bc the damn acids & gases from decomp break it down! These experts crack me up. They answer the way they want that most helps their version of the story, they have an agenda. They need to stick to facts & what they learn in college! WTF!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 11:13:48 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sooo funny! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 11:20:14 PM
I have to wonder if Caylee's body hadn't been found sooner, that DNA would have been found on the duct tape.
I work in a lab, and when wearing gloves, it's very difficult to handle scotch tape or any kind of tape without getting it all tangled up with gloves and
ripping them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 18, 2011, 11:22:46 PM
Oops, messed that up. I do believe that if Caylee was discovered sooner, heck even maybe the 1st time Kronk called 911, there could have been DNA present! That stupid cop should followed up thoroughly on that 1st call!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: 4myjoey on June 18, 2011, 11:24:45 PM
Jeff Ashton V. Jose Baez


 ::snipping2::

Jose Baez does not respect the criminal justice system, nor does he understand the inherent dignity found in truth. He lies with impunity, and acts with juvenile abandon of manners.

Question: Why did Jeff Ashton tell Judge Perry that Baez was texting during court?

Answer: Because to Ashton, court is a place where the highest expectation of decor should be maintained. He does not want it turned into a video game for childish smirks, taunts and game playing.

Jeff Ashton is there for justice.

Question: Why did he feel the need to pummel the bug expert?

Answer: Because he sold his soul to Baez and sought to trample over Caylee Marie Anthony and Ashton would not let him get away with it.


More at;    http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/06/jeff-ashton-v-jose-baez.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 18, 2011, 11:54:37 PM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

Rodriguez's CV starts on page 280

He claims co-founder of body farm and his references include Dr Bass and Henry Lee.

Dr Bill Bass started the body farm in 1971 with one body.  Dr.  Bass was the state of Tenn forensic anthropologist at the time, the first for the state.   Dr.  Bass expanded it and began to build a larger facility in the 80's with some of his students.  Rodriguez was one of Dr. Bass's grad students .  So I guess Rodriguez did help build the facility as one of the students, but I am not sure that makes him a co-founder. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 12:11:56 AM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

Rodriguez's CV starts on page 280

He claims co-founder of body farm and his references include Dr Bass and Henry Lee.

Dr Bill Bass started the body farm in 1971 with one body.  Dr.  Bass was the state of Tenn forensic anthropologist at the time, the first for the state.   Dr.  Bass expanded it and began to build a larger facility in the 80's with some of his students.  Rodriguez was one of Dr. Bass's grad students .  So I guess Rodriguez did help build the facility as one of the students, but I am not sure that makes him a co-founder. 

Totally agree. That's why I posted the important part of the wiki article. There's a difference between Found & Start. He did help start but certainly not found. From my knowledge, Bass is the one that Founded the Anthropological Study (The Body Farm). I think it's very interesting that now there are more at other universities and doctors/scientists are finding out so much information related to death. This all started with 1 cadavar & Dr. Bass' knowledge. I guess it shows that I really look up to the man!
 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: espresso lover on June 19, 2011, 12:13:22 AM
Besides his info at the bottom, which is found all over the net, I found that he helped identify 184 out of 189 victims from the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon. Maybe he left UT to work for the government.

http://www.theabfa.org/diplomates.html

Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil
(301) 319-0000
  ::MonkeyAngel:: Bless Dr Rodriguez for identifying victims of the 9/11 attack. ::MonkeyTears::

My question is though, why would the military let him become a (non paid) witness for the prosecution of a baby killer? If I were Mr Rodriguez I would run faster than a rabbit being chased by a whippet because that is what he will become when Mr Ashton gets to him.

I am very dumb about the military, but I just don't see them letting their experts become witnesses in a non military/war trial.


JMSO JSM

Could be that's why he's not getting paid.  Maybe taking vacation days for this.
Your right thou, why would he even get involved.
 ::MonkeyEek::

Since we don't know the real spin in private from the defense team to their exerts??

The thing that stands out to me with your thoughts are maybe because Baez was prior "military" ?????Just a thought


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 12:14:15 AM
Jeff Ashton V. Jose Baez


 ::snipping2::

Jose Baez does not respect the criminal justice system, nor does he understand the inherent dignity found in truth. He lies with impunity, and acts with juvenile abandon of manners.

Question: Why did Jeff Ashton tell Judge Perry that Baez was texting during court?

Answer: Because to Ashton, court is a place where the highest expectation of decor should be maintained. He does not want it turned into a video game for childish smirks, taunts and game playing.

Jeff Ashton is there for justice.

Question: Why did he feel the need to pummel the bug expert?

Answer: Because he sold his soul to Baez and sought to trample over Caylee Marie Anthony and Ashton would not let him get away with it.


More at;    http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/06/jeff-ashton-v-jose-baez.html
Great article..thank you for posting the link


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 12:17:32 AM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

Rodriguez's CV starts on page 280

He claims co-founder of body farm and his references include Dr Bass and Henry Lee.

Dr Bill Bass started the body farm in 1971 with one body.  Dr.  Bass was the state of Tenn forensic anthropologist at the time, the first for the state.   Dr.  Bass expanded it and began to build a larger facility in the 80's with some of his students.  Rodriguez was one of Dr. Bass's grad students .  So I guess Rodriguez did help build the facility as one of the students, but I am not sure that makes him a co-founder. 

Totally agree. That's why I posted the important part of the wiki article. There's a difference between Found & Start. He did help start but certainly not found. From my knowledge, Bass is the one that Founded the Anthropological Study (The Body Farm). I think it's very interesting that now there are more at other universities and doctors/scientists are finding out so much information related to death. This all started with 1 cadavar & Dr. Bass' knowledge. I guess it shows that I really look up to the man!
 ::MonkeyWink::
So why is Dr Rodriquez giving me the feeling something isnt quite right??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: espresso lover on June 19, 2011, 12:18:04 AM
Quote
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
Dr. Werner Spitz complimented Jeff Ashton on his cross examination afterward.. Baez pushed me out of his way as I interviewed Spitz unhappy

http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV (http://twitter.com/#!/KBelichWFTV)

Legally isn't a "push" an assault? ::piggy::

Wow just wow   Well, yea it could be considered as one

I had never known anything about Dr. Spitz until this case, that being said What I took from today was it seemed that Mason was feeding him answers and info while Ashton was asking him to explain things in detail. Now my question to you smarter monkeys in this matter , Is it possible that this Dr. Spitz did NOT know all the real details about this case since he stated whom his information came from?? The DT, The Anthony's etc ??? I am confused...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 12:31:40 AM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

Rodriguez's CV starts on page 280

He claims co-founder of body farm and his references include Dr Bass and Henry Lee.

Dr Bill Bass started the body farm in 1971 with one body.  Dr.  Bass was the state of Tenn forensic anthropologist at the time, the first for the state.   Dr.  Bass expanded it and began to build a larger facility in the 80's with some of his students.  Rodriguez was one of Dr. Bass's grad students .  So I guess Rodriguez did help build the facility as one of the students, but I am not sure that makes him a co-founder

That's my impression as well. 

Here's a couple other things I came across:

No mention of Rodriguez in this 2000 article...

http://articles.cnn.com/2000-10-31/health/body.farm_1_bodies-patricia-cornwell-popular-crime-novels?_s=PM:HEALTH

http://www.zentolos.com/?p=6430

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::

One of the first students of Dr. Bass, who began using the facility as a place of experimentation, it was Bill Rodriguez .Bass offered the opportunity, as a student of anthropology, to apply their knowledge to a real case and took it as an assistant.As it happened once to Dr. Bass, Bill Rodriguez was captivated by the experience and joined his team as graduate student.His research would begin with the subject 1-81, studying the activity of insects in the decaying corpses.In the humid climate of Tennessee, the hornets are the first insects to arrive at a corpse lay hundreds of eggs in the body cavities (nose, mouth, eyes, wounds ...).Then came the wasps that prey on the larvae of blowflies and beetles appeared later.In the words of Bill Rodriguez: " This is like a food chain in action.It is not something that happens randomly, is an ordered sequence, it is something that can be interpreted and applied to forensic work . "

In 1982, Bill Rodriguez presents its first results at the Annual Meeting of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences , where oral dissertation was a resounding success, and his subsequent article " Insect Activity and Its Relationship to Decay Rates of Human Cadavers in East Tennessee " is one of the most cited in the history of the magazine where it was published.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 12:33:25 AM
Flamom, I feel the same way. Idk.

Only thing that goes through my head right now is people that become doctors in a medical sense do so to save lives. This is why alot of hospitals don't turn people away without insurance. This is why somebody could be admitted to a hospital after a horrific accident which disembodied them, yet they still have a heartbeat or a brain wave so the doctors keep working to save that person. Even if they think the person will die, as long as there is an inkling sign of life, the doctors work to repair & save the person. I have no idea why Rodriguez would testify for the Defense. IMO it's weird. Kinda like the govt going against another branch of the govt.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 12:38:22 AM
Thanks Titch.. I am going to bed, clear my head and enjoy my dad tomorrow.. Goodnight monkeys!
r.i.p. CC... end of an era 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 12:43:41 AM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 12:46:26 AM
I am less focused on the numbers co inky dink and trying to find out if Dr Rodriquez, an original founder of the Body farm,has an axe to grind and thats why he is testifying for FREE, as he and Bobo stated. All I can find is he is a co founder with Dr Bass. I want to know why he left and if it was on good terms
Could be possible he didn't leave on good terms. Maybe he was trying to "make a profit" and it didn't fly with Dr Bass. I don't know, what I do know is all of Mr Baez's witnesses have been sleazy so maybe Mr Rodriguez has some skeleton in his closet that likes to profit off of a murdered child case even if it is after the fact. Like becoming a talking head on TV or a paid media wh*re like Dr Spitz.

JMSO JSM  ::MonkeyBike::

Actually, the allowance of his testimony tells me that Casey won't get the dp. He is Chief Deputy ME for the Dept of Defense. I trust that the Prosecution can handle him, especially considering their whole team is impeccable in their questioning, so I fo believe Casey will be in prison for a long time.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

Rodriguez's CV starts on page 280

He claims co-founder of body farm and his references include Dr Bass and Henry Lee.

He was NOT co-founder of the body farm - I can tell you that...........I will tell you what I know and also what the skuttle butt was about this. Dr. Bass is almost an idol at the University of Tennessee Anthropology Dept and at UT period. Not so much Rodriguez. Rodriguez was an undergraduate at UT and MIGHT have been a research assistant when Dr. Bass started the Body Farm.

Dr. Bass got permission from the University of Tn to set up the Body Farm in 1980. He got his first body in 1981. When Dr. Bass set it up Rodriguez did not even have his BA degree. He did not graduate UT until 1981. He did not get his Masters until 1982 and by the time he received his Ph.D. in 1985 he was working for the Coroner's office in La where he worked until 1987. He had long been gone from the Body Farm. After Louisiana he went to NY.

What I heard was he was a "bug investigator" which documented the dates, times, etc. certain bugs came to feed on the bodies. That was a job of taking a sheet to document and photograph each stage of the decomposition. It came into question if his documentation was accurate as some of the others who were assigned the same task got different results. When questioned he took offense and caused some problems within the department. The rumors were he was difficult to work with and the Ph.D. candidates refused to work with him because he was what they called "a know it all" who did not have the experience, education yet or credentials to back it up. Keep in mind at that time he didn't even have his masters and did not graduate the university until '81.

I will ask around about him but that is just what I know from the rumors in the department years ago.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 12:51:26 AM
Thanks Titch.. I am going to bed, clear my head and enjoy my dad tomorrow.. Goodnight monkeys!
r.i.p. CC... end of an era 
Welcome.

Goodnight & sleep well everyone.

Justice is coming for Caylee. I know it. The wonderful legacy of Caylee Anthony will forever carry on through every single court case in our country that uses the science behind this case as case law. It's almost as if she was destined for great things. I'm a firm believer that God always has a bigger plan. Bc of this science being used, Caylee will live forever through each court case using this one as a reference for admissability. She's truly an angel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 12:52:33 AM
Thank you so much Turbo! I knew you'd know!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 12:58:30 AM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!

Actually he was not even a graduate student when the Body Farm was started so you are right. I think the hype about him being a co-founder is BS and I really can't see him saying that because it is too easy to check. It most likely is media hype.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 01:14:05 AM
I've really been shocked at how interesting I'm finding the Body Farm info since I started digging around for information about Rodriguez. 

I'll stop after this one... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Interesting article, and this part tells how Rodriguez got involved imo.

http://homepage.mac.com/haroldjb/polars/wbass.html

 ::snipping2::

He offered 10 points of extra credit to the students in his anthropology lecture class if they would come out to the Farm the next Saturday. When they got there, they found a body rotting on the ground. Bass marked off distances in 10-yard increments from the corpse.

Conclusion: "You can't smell a body more than 30 yards away."

One of the students in the department was a guy named William Rodriguez. He was interested in the side of anthropology that deals with primates, physiology and behavior. He figured he might make a career working with chimps in Africa. One winter afternoon, Rodriguez was hanging around the department and Bass got an urgent call. None of the forensics students was available, so Bass grabbed Rodriguez. "You're going with me to do a forensic case."

They spent a day and a half in some woods where skeletal remains were found. The bones had settled into the soil.

"I was so enthralled with what he could determine from looking at these remains," Rodriguez recalls.

Bass said the victim was a white male, mid-thirties, who had been shot in the back of the head execution-style at the scene about five years before. The bones told him the victim was probably poor because he had been malnourished and lacked dental care. Not only that, judging by old healed fractures on the knuckles, nose and cheekbones, he probably had been a brawler in barrooms and been whacked upside the head by a pool cue once or twice. When he was alive, he probably had a dent and scars on the side of his face.

It all turned out to be true. Bass's description helped lead to the identification of the victim and prosecution of the killers.

"It totally 360'd my career outlook," Rodriguez says. "Literally the next day I switched over to forensics as my main specialty area."

Now Rodriguez is the chief deputy medical examiner for special investigations in the Armed Forces Medical Examiner's Office. He is co-leader of a U.S. team assigned to examine remains in Kosovo.

Bass and Rodriguez both knew that Bass's dazzling bone detective work on the murder case could be complemented with a better understanding of what happens to corpses in the process of becoming skeletons. Under Bass's guidance, Rodriguez conducted the first sophisticated study on the Body Farm. He put four corpses out at different times of the year and spent hours upon hours, day and night, watching the succession of insect varieties attracted to the bodies, led by blowflies, with their familiar iridescent green and blue bodies.

Forensics investigators had known that insect activity followed predictable patterns, but this was the first time the process on a human cadaver had been elaborated. Nowadays, investigators are trained to retrieve samples of bugs found on a body. The insects' maturity is an important clue to the time of death.

More research followed. Placing bodies in pools, Bass and his students learned that water slows decomposition by as much as half. They recorded the rates of decay of bodies in automobile trunks, and buried at various depths, dressed in assorted fabrics, wrapped in different materials.

One student did chemical analyses of the soil under decaying bodies. The dirt becomes drenched in volatile fatty acids and other runoff. The work proved you didn't need the actual corpse to tell how long it had been there; the soil contained the clues.

The sum of the knowledge is now being put to use around the world.

"Now we are working with scientific evidence," Rodriguez says. "Before, it was purely guessing."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Red on June 19, 2011, 01:18:32 AM
Thanks Titch.. I am going to bed, clear my head and enjoy my dad tomorrow.. Goodnight monkeys!
r.i.p. CC... end of an era 

Not exactly the right place, but I will take blog lisense and post ...  the Big Man is now playing sax for Caylee in Heaven.

Clarence Clemons, Legendary Rock Saxophonist of Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band Dies at the Age of 69
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/06/18/clarence-clemons-legendary-rock-saxophonist-of-bruce-springsteen-the-e-street-band-dies-at-the-age-of-69/

Quote
I have long been a fan of the music of Springsteen and the E Street Band, especially their music of the 1970′s and 80′s. I  spent many a summer and weekend down at the Jersey Shore, Asbury Park and the Stone Pony in my day. Today I lost a piece of my childhood, but I fondly remember some great moment from the past. Tonight the Stone Pony has free admission “Remembering the Big Man”.For those who grew up and went to school in the Jersey area you know exactly what I am referring to, Springsteen, Clemons and the E Street Band pretty much provided anthems for life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 01:19:29 AM
I've really been shocked at how interesting I'm finding the Body Farm info since I started digging around for information about Rodriguez.  

I'll stop after this one... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Interesting article, and this part tells how Rodriguez got involved imo.

http://homepage.mac.com/haroldjb/polars/wbass.html

 ::snipping2::

He offered 10 points of extra credit to the students in his anthropology lecture class if they would come out to the Farm the next Saturday. When they got there, they found a body rotting on the ground. Bass marked off distances in 10-yard increments from the corpse.

Conclusion: "You can't smell a body more than 30 yards away."

One of the students in the department was a guy named William Rodriguez. He was interested in the side of anthropology that deals with primates, physiology and behavior. He figured he might make a career working with chimps in Africa. One winter afternoon, Rodriguez was hanging around the department and Bass got an urgent call. None of the forensics students was available, so Bass grabbed Rodriguez. "You're going with me to do a forensic case."

They spent a day and a half in some woods where skeletal remains were found. The bones had settled into the soil.

"I was so enthralled with what he could determine from looking at these remains," Rodriguez recalls.

Bass said the victim was a white male, mid-thirties, who had been shot in the back of the head execution-style at the scene about five years before. The bones told him the victim was probably poor because he had been malnourished and lacked dental care. Not only that, judging by old healed fractures on the knuckles, nose and cheekbones, he probably had been a brawler in barrooms and been whacked upside the head by a pool cue once or twice. When he was alive, he probably had a dent and scars on the side of his face.

It all turned out to be true. Bass's description helped lead to the identification of the victim and prosecution of the killers.

"It totally 360'd my career outlook," Rodriguez says. "Literally the next day I switched over to forensics as my main specialty area."

Now Rodriguez is the chief deputy medical examiner for special investigations in the Armed Forces Medical Examiner's Office. He is co-leader of a U.S. team assigned to examine remains in Kosovo.

Bass and Rodriguez both knew that Bass's dazzling bone detective work on the murder case could be complemented with a better understanding of what happens to corpses in the process of becoming skeletons. Under Bass's guidance, Rodriguez conducted the first sophisticated study on the Body Farm. He put four corpses out at different times of the year and spent hours upon hours, day and night, watching the succession of insect varieties attracted to the bodies, led by blowflies, with their familiar iridescent green and blue bodies.

Forensics investigators had known that insect activity followed predictable patterns, but this was the first time the process on a human cadaver had been elaborated. Nowadays, investigators are trained to retrieve samples of bugs found on a body. The insects' maturity is an important clue to the time of death.

More research followed. Placing bodies in pools, Bass and his students learned that water slows decomposition by as much as half. They recorded the rates of decay of bodies in automobile trunks, and buried at various depths, dressed in assorted fabrics, wrapped in different materials.

One student did chemical analyses of the soil under decaying bodies. The dirt becomes drenched in volatile fatty acids and other runoff. The work proved you didn't need the actual corpse to tell how long it had been there; the soil contained the clues.

The sum of the knowledge is now being put to use around the world.

"Now we are working with scientific evidence," Rodriguez says. "Before, it was purely guessing."

 ::snipping2::

That falls right in line with what I thought to be true. That had to be in 1981 when Rodriguez was working on his masters. They only had 4 bodies total in 1981.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 01:29:06 AM
I found this about Rodriguez.

Bill Rodriguez, one of Bass' graduate students, wrote his doctoral thesis on information gathered from this facility. Each day, he notated the presence of various insects on human cadavers and other information like changes in the body, and the timing of each of these.[1] Rodriguez noticed that blow-flies immediately swarmed carcass in study and began mass-producing eggs all over its orifices. However, other insects were also attracted to the freshly rotting body including yellow jackets and wasps. Once the blow-fly eggs turned into maggots, beetles too began assembling on the body not only to feed on the body itself but on its co-inhabitants, the maggots, as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 01:41:21 AM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!

Actually he was not even a graduate student when the Body Farm was started so you are right. I think the hype about him being a co-founder is BS and I really can't see him saying that because it is too easy to check. It most likely is media hype.

I just went back and listened to the first part of his testimony from this morning.  Baez asked him if he was a Co-Founder of The Body Farm, and he answered yes, he was.  He goes on to tell how that came about...

Starts at about 5:25

http://www.wftv.com/video/28280973/index.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 19, 2011, 01:46:32 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 19, 2011, 02:07:25 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb

IDK - I don't do Facebook - folks who don't do Facebook can't see what's at the link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 02:12:34 AM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!

Actually he was not even a graduate student when the Body Farm was started so you are right. I think the hype about him being a co-founder is BS and I really can't see him saying that because it is too easy to check. It most likely is media hype.

I just went back and listened to the first part of his testimony from this morning.  Baez asked him if he was a Co-Founder of The Body Farm, and he answered yes, he was.  He goes on to tell how that came about...

Starts at about 5:25

http://www.wftv.com/video/28280973/index.html



I just fired off an email to Jeff Ashton about his statement and suggested he contact Dr. Bass for verification but that Rodriguez was not a co-founder but a research assistant. I included the years he attended UT and what degrees he held at that time. If he lied about one thing he is not a dependable witness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pinkbanana on June 19, 2011, 02:16:01 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb

IDK - I don't do Facebook - folks who don't do Facebook can't see what's at the link.


Thanks.
I signed on and it took me to videos of my family members and I said, OH S..., my cousin are on SM?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: haha

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 02:26:12 AM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!

Actually he was not even a graduate student when the Body Farm was started so you are right. I think the hype about him being a co-founder is BS and I really can't see him saying that because it is too easy to check. It most likely is media hype.

I just went back and listened to the first part of his testimony from this morning.  Baez asked him if he was a Co-Founder of The Body Farm, and he answered yes, he was.  He goes on to tell how that came about...

Starts at about 5:25

http://www.wftv.com/video/28280973/index.html



I just fired off an email to Jeff Ashton about his statement and suggested he contact Dr. Bass for verification but that Rodriguez was not a co-founder but a research assistant. I included the years he attended UT and what degrees he held at that time. If he lied about one thing he is not a dependable witness.

I'm so glad you did that Turbo, THANK YOU!

I'm really having my doubts about those claims.

I've just started watching this, and Dr. Bass requested the first land to conduct his studies in the fall of 1971.  He states that this was the beginning of The Body Farm.  From Dr. Rodriguez's testimony he states the discussions about starting the studies was in the early 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfsSqCu3q0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BabsKats on June 19, 2011, 02:27:27 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb

IDK - I don't do Facebook - folks who don't do Facebook can't see what's at the link.


Thanks.
I signed on and it took me to videos of my family members and I said, OH S..., my cousin are on SM?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: haha

pb
It once worked...Was a spoof on KC, JP telling her off, was funny.......Now same as you it just sends me directly to my FB videos!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Green Eyes on June 19, 2011, 02:44:40 AM
Hey Monkeys ,
Did any of you notice that today when Casey did her fake cry and upset act. That there was no touchy feely from Sims or any of the others.  I wonder since Jeff complained about it in one of the side bars if the Judge told Baez and company to knock it off.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Green Eyes on June 19, 2011, 02:48:32 AM
Thank You Turbo for sending the info to Jeff.  I know the man has a lot of years under his belt. But there is something that just isn't right about him. I wonder if we have another axe to grind with Dr. Bass and the body Farm like the Bug guy seemed to have with Dr. Haskell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 02:58:36 AM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!

Actually he was not even a graduate student when the Body Farm was started so you are right. I think the hype about him being a co-founder is BS and I really can't see him saying that because it is too easy to check. It most likely is media hype.

I just went back and listened to the first part of his testimony from this morning.  Baez asked him if he was a Co-Founder of The Body Farm, and he answered yes, he was.  He goes on to tell how that came about...

Starts at about 5:25

http://www.wftv.com/video/28280973/index.html



I just fired off an email to Jeff Ashton about his statement and suggested he contact Dr. Bass for verification but that Rodriguez was not a co-founder but a research assistant. I included the years he attended UT and what degrees he held at that time. If he lied about one thing he is not a dependable witness.

I'm so glad you did that Turbo, THANK YOU!

I'm really having my doubts about those claims.

I've just started watching this, and Dr. Bass requested the first land to conduct his studies in the fall of 1971.  He states that this was the beginning of The Body Farm.  From Dr. Rodriguez's testimony he states the discussions about starting the studies was in the early 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfsSqCu3q0

If I am not mistaken UT gave Dr. Bass the property and then the permission in 1980. Something else he said did not set right with me either was that he put up the fence. When it was first started there was NO fence. They had to put up a fence later when the word got out on campus and sightseers started going there out of morbid curiosity. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Blumonkey on June 19, 2011, 03:36:21 AM
Mr. Ashton was absolutely brilliant.  One lawyer is going to come out of this trial famous for his professional work.  It ain't Baez or the Kentucky Colonel.
Kentucky Colonels beg you to NOT sully their distinction with the likes of Mason. The Florida Bafoon is more like it !   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Praying4Angels on June 19, 2011, 04:31:01 AM
Anyone see this? Granted it does not hold much journalistic value ...but it was interesting (if a true account)...that in the space of a few moments...after changing seats..she had flipped to a second persona (a family nanny with no child)...anyone think Casey is a sporting a lil DID?  ::MonkeyEek::


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_columnist_mikethomas/2011/06/casey-anthony-goes-to-disney.html#comments (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_columnist_mikethomas/2011/06/casey-anthony-goes-to-disney.html#comments)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 04:47:34 AM
OMG I have chills.  I have never watched /listened to ICA police interviews.  The home interview is like something out of a movie. 

I sounded like an idiot tonight trying to lie to my husband about a father's day gift.  She does it with SUCH ease!  Drs, attorneys, professors etc will be reviewing, analyzing & discussing this case for many many years! 

Chills, I mean literally it gave me chills!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: sandy leiva on June 19, 2011, 05:06:21 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm


That is just too funny and I KNOW HE HAS TO BE THINKING THAT.  He has to be. 


is this virus i see lotsa different video clips of kids foolin around singing limo ride, quitar playing. What do u see?sl


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: sandy leiva on June 19, 2011, 05:13:57 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb

IDK - I don't do Facebook - folks who don't do Facebook can't see what's at the link.


Thanks.
I signed on and it took me to videos of my family members and I said, OH S..., my cousin are on SM?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: haha

pb
Pink banana I clicked it too and gave videos of my family members are we related? sl


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 05:15:14 AM
Anyone see this? Granted it does not hold much journalistic value ...but it was interesting (if a true account)...that in the space of a few moments...after changing seats..she had flipped to a second persona (a family nanny with no child)...anyone think Casey is a sporting a lil DID?  ::MonkeyEek::


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_columnist_mikethomas/2011/06/casey-anthony-goes-to-disney.html#comments (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_columnist_mikethomas/2011/06/casey-anthony-goes-to-disney.html#comments)

No I don't think its DID.  I think she changes her stories to fit what she needs at the time even if what she needs is someone's attention.  She doesn't literally become another person, she becomes another character.  big difference IMO

Thanks for posting this - REALLY neat story - if true!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 05:42:08 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb

IDK - I don't do Facebook - folks who don't do Facebook can't see what's at the link.


I just have an account but don't use facebook. 
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: sandy leiva on June 19, 2011, 06:03:16 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb

IDK - I don't do Facebook - folks who don't do Facebook can't see what's at the link.


Thanks.
I signed on and it took me to videos of my family members and I said, OH S..., my cousin are on SM?  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyHaHa:: haha

pb
Pink banana I clicked it too and gave videos of my family members are we related? sl
yes we are welcome pb to our monkey family as well Ive been here since 2005, Love ya n God Bless cuzz sl


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 19, 2011, 07:13:58 AM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on June 19, 2011, 07:15:16 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/os-mike-thomas-casey-anthony-061911-20110618,0,1598783.column
Here's why Casey Anthony does not deserve death penalty
Mike Thomas COMMENTARY
10:06 p.m. EDT, June 18, 2011

I am beginning to wonder if Casey Anthony and José Baez could pull off the impossible.

Not exoneration from the jury but a death sentence from the judge.
As satisfying as that may be to the multitudes who have posted comments on our coverage of this trial, we do not have executions by democracy, and if found guilty, Casey does not qualify for the needle.

This case demonstrates everything that is wrong about capital punishment.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 07:41:07 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tevye on June 19, 2011, 08:13:07 AM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.
Wiki info can be changed by the minute. Wonder how long the "Rodriguez" name was on there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on June 19, 2011, 08:23:52 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb

IDK - I don't do Facebook - folks who don't do Facebook can't see what's at the link.


Here you go - it's on youtube too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uftRrb8Btw


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: 4myjoey on June 19, 2011, 08:33:03 AM
Audio: 911 call George Anthony tells dispatch about return of bounty hunter Leonard Padilla


http://tinyurl.com/3mq7b6j


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!

Actually he was not even a graduate student when the Body Farm was started so you are right. I think the hype about him being a co-founder is BS and I really can't see him saying that because it is too easy to check. It most likely is media hype.

I just went back and listened to the first part of his testimony from this morning.  Baez asked him if he was a Co-Founder of The Body Farm, and he answered yes, he was.  He goes on to tell how that came about...

Starts at about 5:25

http://www.wftv.com/video/28280973/index.html



I just fired off an email to Jeff Ashton about his statement and suggested he contact Dr. Bass for verification but that Rodriguez was not a co-founder but a research assistant. I included the years he attended UT and what degrees he held at that time. If he lied about one thing he is not a dependable witness.

I'm so glad you did that Turbo, THANK YOU!

I'm really having my doubts about those claims.

I've just started watching this, and Dr. Bass requested the first land to conduct his studies in the fall of 1971.  He states that this was the beginning of The Body Farm.  From Dr. Rodriguez's testimony he states the discussions about starting the studies was in the early 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfsSqCu3q0


Just that section.

Baez: Are you a Co Founder of the Anthropological Facility at the Univ of TN - also known as the Body Farm?

Rodriguez:  Yes I am


Wiki
- The Body Farm (we all know that Wiki can be changed and modified and is not always correct)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm

University of Tennessee at Knoxville

The original "Body Farm" is the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility located a few miles from downtown off of Alcoa Highway in Knoxville, Tennessee, behind the University of Tennessee Medical Center. It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez as a facility for study of the decomposition of human remains

The first Wiki's said it was founded in 1971 not 1981 and Rodriguez name was not mentioned.  I'm going thru the history changes right now and I'm up to 2007 and still says 1971 and no Rodriguez.  Looking for when it was edited and by whom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Body_farm&action=history


According to the official Body Farm website it officially started in 1980-1981 but still no mention of Rodriguez anywhere

http://web.utk.edu/~fac/faculty.html


SORRY FOR THE HUGE PHOTO. 


Was edited to add the name of Rodriguez on October 12, 2010 by someone with an IP from Maryland.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2434/5848725012_ebf53d4f17_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 09:21:21 AM
#1 - Why isn't Rodriguez mentioned at the official UTN Body Farm website?
#2 - Fishy that his name was just added to Wiki on October 12, 2010 (we know Wiki can be edited by almost anyone)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Western Observr on June 19, 2011, 09:29:22 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering

According to Cindy, they took care of Caylee's medical costs. She had been seen by a Pediatrician in her life, but had no history of illness, per Dr Garavaglia's statement at post mortem.
Lord only knows what Casey told them about her 'job'...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 09:46:23 AM
While I was looking around about The Body Farm  I found this interesting tidbit:
The Student Body

In 2006, there were more corpses and skeletons on the U of T-Knoxville campus (around 900 in the osteopathological collection, 700 between two skeletal collections and 40 more on the body farm itself) than there were Asian students currently enrolled (673 total undergraduate and graduate) [source: Nair
http://science.howstuffworks.com/body-farm3.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 19, 2011, 09:46:50 AM
Hey Monkeys ,
Did any of you notice that today when Casey did her fake cry and upset act. That there was no touchy feely from Sims or any of the others.  I wonder since Jeff complained about it in one of the side bars if the Judge told Baez and company to knock it off.

 ::rhino:: Noticed!  It's fun watching her squirm all by herself. ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2::

I hope we get the transcripts of the sidebars when this trial is over - can you even imagine what's in some of them?  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2011, 09:49:55 AM
Hey Monkeys ,
Did any of you notice that today when Casey did her fake cry and upset act. That there was no touchy feely from Sims or any of the others.  I wonder since Jeff complained about it in one of the side bars if the Judge told Baez and company to knock it off.

 ::rhino:: Noticed!  It's fun watching her squirm all by herself. ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2::

I hope we get the transcripts of the sidebars when this trial is over - can you even imagine what's in some of them?  ::MonkeyDevil::
 

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::  Oh yeah!  I'd love, love, love to read those!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 10:05:26 AM
Hey Monkeys ,
Did any of you notice that today when Casey did her fake cry and upset act. That there was no touchy feely from Sims or any of the others.  I wonder since Jeff complained about it in one of the side bars if the Judge told Baez and company to knock it off.

 ::rhino:: Noticed!  It's fun watching her squirm all by herself. ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2::

I hope we get the transcripts of the sidebars when this trial is over - can you even imagine what's in some of them?  ::MonkeyDevil::
 

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::  Oh yeah!  I'd love, love, love to read those!

Did you see right after, when they were done the sort of smirk, hiding it.
Maybe Blonde caught it...
 ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: CasuallyCool on June 19, 2011, 10:34:42 AM
If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 10:38:16 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 10:39:07 AM
If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?

Exactly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 19, 2011, 10:40:54 AM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!

Actually he was not even a graduate student when the Body Farm was started so you are right. I think the hype about him being a co-founder is BS and I really can't see him saying that because it is too easy to check. It most likely is media hype.

I just went back and listened to the first part of his testimony from this morning.  Baez asked him if he was a Co-Founder of The Body Farm, and he answered yes, he was.  He goes on to tell how that came about...

Starts at about 5:25

http://www.wftv.com/video/28280973/index.html



I just fired off an email to Jeff Ashton about his statement and suggested he contact Dr. Bass for verification but that Rodriguez was not a co-founder but a research assistant. I included the years he attended UT and what degrees he held at that time. If he lied about one thing he is not a dependable witness.


Turbo -  TY



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 10:41:20 AM
Good Morning Monkeys

Is trial in session to tomorrow?  Does anybody know who the defence witness/es will be?

Thanks

Have a good day all.

Janet
7:40 AM PT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 10:44:35 AM
Good Morning Monkeys

Is trial in session to tomorrow?  Does anybody know who the defence witness/es will be?

Thanks

Have a good day all.

Janet
7:40 AM PT

I would think Mr. Rodriguez.......
But what do I know.....
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 19, 2011, 10:48:50 AM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm

OMG that is priceless, we got people over here howling and crying over this :-)
::MonkeyDevil::
You can say that again.

What is it?  ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks

pb

IDK - I don't do Facebook - folks who don't do Facebook can't see what's at the link.


Here you go - it's on youtube too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uftRrb8Btw

Thanks...it is funny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 10:49:42 AM
Probably been posted before but interesting backround article on JP;
http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Orlando-Magazine/April-2011/Order-in-His-Court/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 19, 2011, 10:50:50 AM
#1 - Why isn't Rodriguez mentioned at the official UTN Body Farm website?
#2 - Fishy that his name was just added to Wiki on October 12, 2010 (we know Wiki can be edited by almost anyone)

Klaas - TY

For all that work!  It's very interesting that the information was changed in 2010....this could lead to something...I sure hope Ashton, et al, are checking this out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 19, 2011, 10:57:38 AM
I watched bug boy's testimony. As a layperson with a non science background I could see how his grade 5 science project was flawed. I am amazed that a so called educated person like bug boy did that project with the pig in a trunk and tried to sell that mess in the trunk as a recreation of what happened in Casey's trunk.
Watching Mr. Ashton smack him down with the pig in a blanket remark and more was the best thing I've seen in this case for a while.
And I did see Casey laugh along with the whole thing, right in front of the jury.
..
What is appalling to me is that this crap that these experts spew is allowed.
..
Rodriguez is smarter and has more experience than bug boy and why would someone like that get involved with this trial ? I don't like that LKB seems to have a gang of these " experts" whose purpose is to throw a F*** into evidence and trials at her disposal. When she became involved, I did expect to see her gang show up, but I still am amazed that this crap goes on. Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
snip

 Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?

How many people are following this case?  Attention grabber for the future,
you think?
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: monkalicious on June 19, 2011, 11:08:05 AM
Good morning, Monkeys!  Happy Father's Day to all you fathers out there.  I was watching the infamous Dr. Spitz Evisceration by Jeff Ashton.  All that was needed was a replay of the scene in the movie "Inherit the Wind" ....
Matthew Harrison Brady: I do not think about things I do not think about.
Henry Drummond: Do you ever think about things that you do think about?
I can just see Jeff saying that...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 11:13:34 AM
Good Morning Monkey friends!
Thanls to everyone for looking into Dr Rod...
I always trust that little voice that tells me something isnt quite right
He was very quick to throw Bobo under the bus, rightly so, but I couldnt understand why someone who 'cofounded' an amazing place like the body farm would bounce from state to state, job to job instead of refining his creation. His demeanor was off..
Thanks to you Turbo for your BF knowledge.. I hope Jeff gets your email in time to verify the doc's background..
Thanks to Red for his amazing acknowledgement of the Bigman xoxo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 19, 2011, 11:14:11 AM
I did see a grade 5 science project on decompostion of a pig's foot. Some little odd kid did a CSI exhibit and it was better than bug boy's. No bugs, it was done in a sterile dish over a period of time with pictures and obsevations at each time inverval until the foot was just goo. The pig foot was purchased at a store. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 11:20:16 AM
If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?


Talking about duct tape..

Did my own little experiment.
Heavy rubber (the ones u use for washing dishes, yellow) gloves.
I tried using my teeth to start it and next a putty scarper.
Both worked.
The tape was easy to get off the gloves.

Also after re looking at the tape from the pic's, kc might of use a scissor to start the ripe.

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:20:59 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”

thx guys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:23:03 AM
If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?


Talking about duct tape..

Did my own little experiment.
Heavy rubber (the ones u use for washing dishes, yellow) gloves.
I tried using my teeth to start it and next a putty scarper.
Both worked.
The tape was easy to get off the gloves.

Also after re looking at the tape from the pic's, kc might of use a scissor to start the ripe.

 ::MonkeyBike::

I'm 5'0" and have really small hands.  My hubby always laughs at me for using scissors to cut duct tape.  I just cannot tear it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 19, 2011, 11:26:14 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering

Since KC didn't work to have access to medical coverage, the only affordable insurance to her would have been through the state.  In order to get state benefits, paternity must be established, or at least attempted to be established.  KC, and I think Cindy as well, didn't want Caylee's paternity established because they didn't want to have to deal with a father figure in Caylee's life.   Therefore, KC would not apply for state benefits for Caylee period.  I maybe the only person who thinks this, but I do believe that KC and probably Cindy as well, know who the father is but don't want him to know.   ::MonkeyAngel::



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
snip

 Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?

How many people are following this case?  Attention grabber for the future,
you think?
 ::MonkeyTongue::

people will sell their souls these days just to be on tv!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 19, 2011, 11:27:48 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering




July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
(Sorry to get into your box:(

Since KC didn't work to have access to medical coverage, the only affordable insurance to her would have been through the state.  In order to get state benefits, paternity must be established, or at least attempted to be established.  KC, and I think Cindy as well, didn't want Caylee's paternity established because they didn't want to have to deal with a father figure in Caylee's life.   Therefore, KC would not apply for state benefits for Caylee period.  I maybe the only person who thinks this, but I do believe that KC and probably Cindy as well, know who the father is but don't want him to know.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?

Exactly

yep!  And the garbage bags, and the needle  puleez grasping grasping grasping


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:29:27 AM
Probably been posted before but interesting backround article on JP;
http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Orlando-Magazine/April-2011/Order-in-His-Court/

I haven't seen it - thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: StarMonkey on June 19, 2011, 11:31:57 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: StarMonkey on June 19, 2011, 11:36:25 AM
If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?

Exactly

yep!  And the garbage bags, and the needle  puleez grasping grasping grasping
Yea there would be no court then..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:44:55 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..


down right odd "family" if you ask me.  Everytime I hear Lee's "C-M-A" speech it gives me the willies.  I still don't think George molested her but man they could have nipped this whole thing in the bud by controlling her YEARS ago!  I don't believe in spanking (because I was abused) but let me say my 2 year old does not rule my roost (even though we spoil her)! 

Years ago my college roommate's sister tried to kill her whole family by leaving the gas on & closing the house up.  Why?  She wanted their rv to run off with her boyfriend.  She was the baby of the family and same thing.  They always made excuses for her, covered up her lies & mistakes and let her walk all over them.  The cable guy or some service worker found them and saved their lives.  The police investigated and the mother took the blame saying she slept walk and must have done it.  The father went along with it.  My roommate was afraid to go home that summer & ended up taking summer classes so she wouldn't have to!   The Ants remind me alot of them!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
snip

 Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?

How many people are following this case?  Attention grabber for the future,
you think?
 ::MonkeyTongue::


people will sell their souls these days just to be on tv!
Or get in fights while standing in line.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: StarMonkey on June 19, 2011, 11:45:44 AM
Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:47:14 AM
Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..



too bad there's not a test for pure evil!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:49:56 AM
snip

 Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?

How many people are following this case?  Attention grabber for the future,
you think?
 ::MonkeyTongue::


people will sell their souls these days just to be on tv!
Or get in fights while standing in line.

I can't believe those two guys actually thought they could cut line & those die hard "fans?" would let them get away with it.  I'm surprised that marker lady didn't jab their eyes out with her Sharpie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: StarMonkey on June 19, 2011, 11:51:45 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..


down right odd "family" if you ask me.  Everytime I hear Lee's "C-M-A" speech it gives me the willies.  I still don't think George molested her but man they could have nipped this whole thing in the bud by controlling her YEARS ago!  I don't believe in spanking (because I was abused) but let me say my 2 year old does not rule my roost (even though we spoil her)! 

Years ago my college roommate's sister tried to kill her whole family by leaving the gas on & closing the house up.  Why?  She wanted their rv to run off with her boyfriend.  She was the baby of the family and same thing.  They always made excuses for her, covered up her lies & mistakes and let her walk all over them.  The cable guy or some service worker found them and saved their lives.  The police investigated and the mother took the blame saying she slept walk and must have done it.  The father went along with it.  My roommate was afraid to go home that summer & ended up taking summer classes so she wouldn't have to!   The Ants remind me alot of them!

Thank God for the cable guy! Yea seems like they covered up for Casey too much.
Cindy could have put a fraud alert on her credits cards Or something!
And LEE boy you said it!!! That speech he gave was meant for Casey and was bizarre!!!
Like the whole family...
Seems like the Anthonys all lived like NOT real emotions.. fake even to eachother.
Very dysfunctional..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flutter1 on June 19, 2011, 11:53:53 AM
I watched bug boy's testimony. As a layperson with a non science background I could see how his grade 5 science project was flawed. I am amazed that a so called educated person like bug boy did that project with the pig in a trunk and tried to sell that mess in the trunk as a recreation of what happened in Casey's trunk.
Watching Mr. Ashton smack him down with the pig in a blanket remark and more was the best thing I've seen in this case for a while.
And I did see Casey laugh along with the whole thing, right in front of the jury.
..
What is appalling to me is that this crap that these experts spew is allowed.
..
Rodriguez is smarter and has more experience than bug boy and why would someone like that get involved with this trial ? I don't like that LKB seems to have a gang of these " experts" whose purpose is to throw a F*** into evidence and trials at her disposal. When she became involved, I did expect to see her gang show up, but I still am amazed that this crap goes on. Can't these persons earn a living or get whatever attention and acclaim that they want by doing legitimate science ?     

I agree that BugBoy's experiment was juvenile at best.  Too many factors were overlooked and protocols ignored.  I already mentioned the fact  of the lack of a controlled environment, ie using salvage cars versus unused cars.  I have also been considering the construction/type of the vehicles.  BugBoy said the flies migrated into the passenger compartment of his vehicle.  Is  this common in the UT tests?  I can see that a vehicle like my husband's Jetta, in which the backseats folddown allowing access to the trunk would allow much easier migration of the flies than a vehicle with a more resistant barrier between the trunk and the backseatI  ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: StarMonkey on June 19, 2011, 11:54:12 AM
Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..



too bad there's not a test for pure evil!

You got that right. I hope the jury sees the truth..
I think they will...
Baez defense is a joke...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 11:57:55 AM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..


down right odd "family" if you ask me.  Everytime I hear Lee's "C-M-A" speech it gives me the willies.  I still don't think George molested her but man they could have nipped this whole thing in the bud by controlling her YEARS ago!  I don't believe in spanking (because I was abused) but let me say my 2 year old does not rule my roost (even though we spoil her)! 

Years ago my college roommate's sister tried to kill her whole family by leaving the gas on & closing the house up.  Why?  She wanted their rv to run off with her boyfriend.  She was the baby of the family and same thing.  They always made excuses for her, covered up her lies & mistakes and let her walk all over them.  The cable guy or some service worker found them and saved their lives.  The police investigated and the mother took the blame saying she slept walk and must have done it.  The father went along with it.  My roommate was afraid to go home that summer & ended up taking summer classes so she wouldn't have to!   The Ants remind me alot of them!

Thank God for the cable guy! Yea seems like they covered up for Casey too much.
Cindy could have put a fraud alert on her credits cards Or something!
And LEE boy you said it!!! That speech he gave was meant for Casey and was bizarre!!!
Like the whole family...
Seems like the Anthonys all lived like NOT real emotions.. fake even to eachother.
Very dysfunctional..

You know what - that is a great way of saying it Not Real or fake emotions.  I think they also have this us against the world & everyone is out to get us mentality. 

If casey had such a great job (in Cindy's mind) why would she need to steal money.  She didn't pay rent, she didn't buy groceries, as you guys have shown me she didn't pay for that baby's medical, she didn't buy Caylee's clothes, she didn't pay for car insurance.  Where did they think her money went?  The first think I would think of was drugs - so why didn't they call the police after a week of not seeing Caylee and a daughter out of control hanging out with druggies?  My mind would be going to some dark places & I would be driving to the police station.  If it were just Casey that's one thing but their precious granddaughter was involved!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 19, 2011, 12:04:52 PM
Bug Boy's experiment rendered the car useless as it could never be cleaned up enough.
The conditions were not the same as he didn't triple bag the pig or wrap it in a blanket.
Plus the climate differences and the different type of vehicle.
With all his education, why was this the best he could do ?
It was an attempt at a hoax. After all of his jibber jabber and the drawing of little pictures and the maggots, ugh , that was what I took away from his entire testimony.   
Poor bug boy, how is he going to live that one down ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 12:11:53 PM
#1 - Why isn't Rodriguez mentioned at the official UTN Body Farm website?
#2 - Fishy that his name was just added to Wiki on October 12, 2010 (we know Wiki can be edited by almost anyone)

Klaas - TY

For all that work!  It's very interesting that the information was changed in 2010....this could lead to something...I sure hope Ashton, et al, are checking this out.


thanks for all the info on Rodriguez......it was clear from the get go he had an agenda with his opening statement that he was an unpaid consultant..and now we know he is an unpaid asswipe..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: karenmamo on June 19, 2011, 12:25:39 PM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.

And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..

Considering how early on Cindy wrote this I am still surprised at how she wrote about her guilt.
"...All I am guilty of is ..."
Now where is that speech analysis person when you want her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 19, 2011, 12:30:40 PM
Probably been posted before but interesting backround article on JP;
http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Orlando-Magazine/April-2011/Order-in-His-Court/

 ::MonkeyBike:: Thanks for posting alagary!  Great article!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: theboyzmom on June 19, 2011, 12:37:51 PM
Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..



too bad there's not a test for pure evil!

There is  - the Hare test for Psychopathy.  http://www.hare.org/  But since psychopathy is not treatable, and often gets worse with treatment, it is not an illness.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
#1 - Why isn't Rodriguez mentioned at the official UTN Body Farm website?
#2 - Fishy that his name was just added to Wiki on October 12, 2010 (we know Wiki can be edited by almost anyone)

Thanks Klaas!  I KNEW something was up with that wiki page! 

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: mizjay on June 19, 2011, 12:56:19 PM
#1 - Why isn't Rodriguez mentioned at the official UTN Body Farm website?
#2 - Fishy that his name was just added to Wiki on October 12, 2010 (we know Wiki can be edited by almost anyone)

Klaas - TY

For all that work!  It's very interesting that the information was changed in 2010....this could lead to something...I sure hope Ashton, et al, are checking this out.


thanks for all the info on Rodriguez......it was clear from the get go he had an agenda with his opening statement that he was an unpaid consultant..and now we know he is an unpaid asswipe..

More thanks from me too for all the research on Rodriguez.  If he embellished his status with The Body farm it's important. Jurors aren't stupid, they will be able to connect the dots that the guy is willing to pump up his credentials and lie on the stand about something that is unnecessary. His work in the field would have been sufficient to establish his testimony but by having yet another witness that is skirting the truth on any issue taints the validity of anything else he might say.
I hope the SAO gets to the bottom of it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 12:56:28 PM
Probably been posted before but interesting backround article on JP;
http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Orlando-Magazine/April-2011/Order-in-His-Court/

 ::MonkeyBike:: Thanks for posting alagary!  Great article!
Could you imagine the fireworks if Mason slipped and called him junior like all his family does ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 01:00:47 PM
No mention of Rodriguez in this current brochure from UT.

http://web.utk.edu/~fac/pdf/FAC_brochure.pdf

 ::snipping2::

Anthropological Research Facility

The Research Facility, opened at its present location in 1980 by Dr. William M. Bass, provides an ideal setting to scientifically document postmortem change. This outdoor field laboratory enables the investigation of parameters which are crucial in time since death estimates. Donated remains make this research possible and simultaneously provide a modern osteological teaching and research collection. Please contact Dr. Lee Meadows Jantz regarding use of this facility.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 19, 2011, 01:03:17 PM
Janet, LKB joined 12/11/08
I think the day she joined along with bug boy says it all!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: mizjay on June 19, 2011, 01:04:54 PM
That's "funny" about the edition about Rodriguez on Wiki. Remember when Baez made a big production when he had Dr. Vass on the stand about Wiki having him identified as a chemist in the bio on Wiki? Dr. Vass said he didn't even know about Wiki or anything about that ......wonder if "somebody" added that in order to imply Dr. Vass was misrepresenting himself?   Does it readily show edits or do you have to be a super sleuth like Klaas to figure it out?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Red on June 19, 2011, 01:11:25 PM
No mention of Rodriguez in this current brochure from UT.

http://web.utk.edu/~fac/pdf/FAC_brochure.pdf

 ::snipping2::

Anthropological Research Facility

The Research Facility, opened at its present location in 1980 by Dr. William M. Bass, provides an ideal setting to scientifically document postmortem change. This outdoor field laboratory enables the investigation of parameters which are crucial in time since death estimates. Donated remains make this research possible and simultaneously provide a modern osteological teaching and research collection. Please contact Dr. Lee Meadows Jantz regarding use of this facility.
 ::snipping2::

Here is a snippet from a Newsweek 2010 article that references Rodriguez as an alumni of the Body Farm, not a cofounder.

http://www.newsweek.com/2000/10/22/down-on-the-body-farm.html


Body Farm alumni have probed many of the world's trouble spots. William Rodriguez, chief deputy for special investigations with the U.S. Armed Forces Medical Examiner in Washington, D.C., led the U.S. medical team into Kosovo just after last year's armistice. It looked at 300 victims from two different regions and provided the War Crimes Tribunal with evidence for the initial indictments against Slobodan Milosevic. "Most of the remains were in an advanced state of decomposition," says Rodriguez, who earned his Ph.D. from UT in 1984 and remains in weekly contact with his mentor Bass.
 ::snipping2::

A student is hardly a co-founder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 01:11:54 PM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.

That has just been added because I looked it up on wiki last night and it was not there. Someone has added it since then. Of course anyone can add anything and unless someone disputes it, it stays. I am writing them to dispute it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 19, 2011, 01:14:15 PM
2 questions.  Did the state file a motion/complaint against Baez that CJBP said if they did he would consider sanctions/contempt against Baez at the end of the trial?  Also, was Dr. Rodriqez on the witness list but his report wasn't entered or was he not on the list at all?
Sorry if this posts twice as I hit the wrong button.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 19, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.

That has just been added because I looked it up on wiki last night and it was not there. Someone has added it since then. Of course anyone can add anything and unless someone disputes it, it stays. I am writing them to dispute it.
Well, I'm sure we know who added this!  One of the Dufense team. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 01:19:10 PM
That's "funny" about the edition about Rodriguez on Wiki. Remember when Baez made a big production when he had Dr. Vass on the stand about Wiki having him identified as a chemist in the bio on Wiki? Dr. Vass said he didn't even know about Wiki or anything about that ......wonder if "somebody" added that in order to imply Dr. Vass was misrepresenting himself?   Does it readily show edits or do you have to be a super sleuth like Klaas to figure it out?

It readily shows edits but sometimes you have to wade thru years of edits to find what you are looking for.  In the case of Rodriguez I waded thru about 7 years of edits.  On a wiki page you can click on the HISTORY tab and that will show the HISTORY OF EDITS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 01:19:31 PM
I am so impressed by all of you.. I was thinking that maybe I was just paranoid about the Dr.. thanks to all of you for digging!!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 01:22:13 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: mizjay on June 19, 2011, 01:23:42 PM
That's "funny" about the edition about Rodriguez on Wiki. Remember when Baez made a big production when he had Dr. Vass on the stand about Wiki having him identified as a chemist in the bio on Wiki? Dr. Vass said he didn't even know about Wiki or anything about that ......wonder if "somebody" added that in order to imply Dr. Vass was misrepresenting himself?   Does it readily show edits or do you have to be a super sleuth like Klaas to figure it out?

It readily shows edits but sometimes you have to wade thru years of edits to find what you are looking for.  In the case of Rodriguez I waded thru about 7 years of edits.  On a wiki page you can click on the HISTORY tab and that will show the HISTORY OF EDITS.

LOL...so I think the answer is....yes, you have to be a good and patient sleuth.  I always suspect anything that comes out of jose's mouth, when he was all over Dr. Vass about that it immediately struck me odd, but that JB considers Wiki his official authority for info says a lot too!
Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 01:24:49 PM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.

That has just been added because I looked it up on wiki last night and it was not there. Someone has added it since then. Of course anyone can add anything and unless someone disputes it, it stays. I am writing them to dispute it.

Check it out now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: sdmike1974 on June 19, 2011, 01:28:04 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723 (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723)

Is Casey Anthony's Defense in Chaos?


Published June 17, 2011 | On the Record | On the Record

Special Guests: Attorneys Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams, Jim Hammer, Diana Tennis
video link (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1002004157001/casey-anthony-trial-courtroom-circus/)
Thanks for the link Klaas.

I like Jim Hammer as a legal analyst. But I always thought the affable Bernie Grimm and the grammatically challenged Ted Williams were two of the weakest legal analysts on television ...  dating all the way back to the early stages of the Natalee Holloway case.

So you can imagine my surprise when I saw them on a Fox News panel once again b/c I would have thought that Fox News would have decided not to renew their contracts years ago.

Then this is further exacerbated by using Dr. Baden as an unchallenged expert when he and his wife have ties to the defense team.

I tell you who had a good (and balanced) show on Fox News ... it was Jeanine Pirro. Her two hour special on Saturday was very well done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 01:28:29 PM
No mention of Rodriguez in this current brochure from UT.

http://web.utk.edu/~fac/pdf/FAC_brochure.pdf

 ::snipping2::

Anthropological Research Facility

The Research Facility, opened at its present location in 1980 by Dr. William M. Bass, provides an ideal setting to scientifically document postmortem change. This outdoor field laboratory enables the investigation of parameters which are crucial in time since death estimates. Donated remains make this research possible and simultaneously provide a modern osteological teaching and research collection. Please contact Dr. Lee Meadows Jantz regarding use of this facility.
 ::snipping2::

Here is a snippet from a Newsweek 2010 article that references Rodriguez as an alumni of the Body Farm, not a cofounder.

http://www.newsweek.com/2000/10/22/down-on-the-body-farm.html


Body Farm alumni have probed many of the world's trouble spots. William Rodriguez, chief deputy for special investigations with the U.S. Armed Forces Medical Examiner in Washington, D.C., led the U.S. medical team into Kosovo just after last year's armistice. It looked at 300 victims from two different regions and provided the War Crimes Tribunal with evidence for the initial indictments against Slobodan Milosevic. "Most of the remains were in an advanced state of decomposition," says Rodriguez, who earned his Ph.D. from UT in 1984 and remains in weekly contact with his mentor Bass.
 ::snipping2::

A student is hardly a co-founder.

He was an undergraduate student at that. He did not get his BA until 1981 after it was started.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 01:32:17 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 01:32:28 PM
Probably been posted before but interesting backround article on JP;
http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Orlando-Magazine/April-2011/Order-in-His-Court/

thanks, this is a good article and I had not seen it before.  So many great points about the judge and the man.....many thing stuck out....but this one glowed for me...

  There is the possibility that the Anthony defense traded a merciful judge for a hanging judge.

“When I did my recusal letter and talked about
‘irony,’ it was meant in many respects,” Strickland says, declining to elaborate.

The irony may very well have been that the defense pushed out a judge who, as a devout Catholic, may be morally opposed to the death sentence.

When asked specifically whether he is capable of sentencing another human being to death, Strickland pleads the fifth. “I just don’t think I’m ready to answer that. There are judges that are more inclined to give it than others. Let’s leave it at that.”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 01:33:53 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 01:34:01 PM
No mention of Rodriguez in this current brochure from UT.

http://web.utk.edu/~fac/pdf/FAC_brochure.pdf

 ::snipping2::

Anthropological Research Facility

The Research Facility, opened at its present location in 1980 by Dr. William M. Bass, provides an ideal setting to scientifically document postmortem change. This outdoor field laboratory enables the investigation of parameters which are crucial in time since death estimates. Donated remains make this research possible and simultaneously provide a modern osteological teaching and research collection. Please contact Dr. Lee Meadows Jantz regarding use of this facility.
 ::snipping2::

Here is a snippet from a Newsweek 2010 article that references Rodriguez as an alumni of the Body Farm, not a cofounder.

http://www.newsweek.com/2000/10/22/down-on-the-body-farm.html


Body Farm alumni have probed many of the world's trouble spots. William Rodriguez, chief deputy for special investigations with the U.S. Armed Forces Medical Examiner in Washington, D.C., led the U.S. medical team into Kosovo just after last year's armistice. It looked at 300 victims from two different regions and provided the War Crimes Tribunal with evidence for the initial indictments against Slobodan Milosevic. "Most of the remains were in an advanced state of decomposition," says Rodriguez, who earned his Ph.D. from UT in 1984 and remains in weekly contact with his mentor Bass.
 ::snipping2::

A student is hardly a co-founder.

Thanks Red!   ::MonkeyCool::

I agree, "A student is hardly a co-founder."

I have yet to find anything where Dr. Bass acknowledges Dr. Rodriguez as a co-founder.

Hopefully Jeff Ashton and his colleagues got the same hinkey feeling about this guy as we all did, and have done their research as well to set him straight on Monday.

The truth, the whole truth, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, Dr. Rodriguez!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ::

From all my reading and research on Dr. Bass, he seems like a genuinely kind person.  I've been wondering (if he's asked), if he would give Dr. Rodriguez credit...even if it's not due...just to save him the embarrassment that his impeachment on this issue would cause.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 01:34:56 PM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.

That has just been added because I looked it up on wiki last night and it was not there. Someone has added it since then. Of course anyone can add anything and unless someone disputes it, it stays. I am writing them to dispute it.

Check it out now.

Awesome Turbothink for showing how easy it is to do. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 01:35:41 PM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.

That has just been added because I looked it up on wiki last night and it was not there. Someone has added it since then. Of course anyone can add anything and unless someone disputes it, it stays. I am writing them to dispute it.

Check it out now.
no mention of him......................   ::MonkeyEek::  I hear crickets


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

Thanks Turbothink!  He lives there as well as I already found a white pages listing for him.  Just wasn't sure until this post of yours if it was the same guy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 01:37:51 PM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.

That has just been added because I looked it up on wiki last night and it was not there. Someone has added it since then. Of course anyone can add anything and unless someone disputes it, it stays. I am writing them to dispute it.

Check it out now.
no mention of him......................   ::MonkeyEek::  I hear crickets

Flamom - no reference now because Turbothink edited the wiki page. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 01:39:38 PM
ya know, JA is one of the sharpest minds I have had the pleasure of watching in court.. I hope he has the 411 on this guy before he testifies tomorrow.. That would be EPIC!!!!
 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 01:41:22 PM
Someone send Rodriguez an email and check to see if the IP is the same as the wiki edit 69.143.82.63  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 01:43:37 PM
ya know, JA is one of the sharpest minds I have had the pleasure of watching in court.. I hope he has the 411 on this guy before he testifies tomorrow.. That would be EPIC!!!!
 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::

We are working on getting the info to him or at least to someone who can get it to him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 01:43:48 PM
Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..

The motion, which did not include many specifics, said the reports “are based entirely upon statements made to them by” Anthony.

Ashton goes on to say they do not diagnose Anthony “as suffering from any clinical or personality disorders as recognized by the American Psychiatric Association.”

WTF???  It is impossible to diagnose her accurately based on anything she says...she lies about everything.....she cannot be trusted to tell the truth about anything!!  Her actions speak more truthfully than anything that comes out of her mouth!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 01:48:56 PM
ya know, JA is one of the sharpest minds I have had the pleasure of watching in court.. I hope he has the 411 on this guy before he testifies tomorrow.. That would be EPIC!!!!
 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::

We are working on getting the info to him or at least to someone who can get it to him.

 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 01:50:10 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?

He looks like Rip Torn to me......http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thebestgossip.com/uploaded_images/Rip_Torn_9988-768216.jpg&imgrefurl=http://thebestgossip.com/2007/04/rip-torn-wants-non-jurl-trial.html&usg=__r8yHkFmcHyq9Ug-KF2dzcsLhYtQ=&h=727&w=450&sz=35&hl=en&start=27&zoom=1&tbnid=8L19p8H6I9xuPM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=86&ei=ADb-TdeyIurZ0QGJv4SxAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drip%2Btorn%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7TSNA_enUS396%26biw%3D1362%26bih%3D587%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1068&vpy=150&dur=390&hovh=285&hovw=177&tx=120&ty=238&page=2&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:27&biw=1362&bih=587

Check out the pic ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 01:53:30 PM
ya know, JA is one of the sharpest minds I have had the pleasure of watching in court.. I hope he has the 411 on this guy before he testifies tomorrow.. That would be EPIC!!!!
 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::

We are working on getting the info to him or at least to someone who can get it to him.

I sent Ashton a direct email about it last night. It really bothers me this man misrepresented himself as being a co-founder of the body farm when he was nothing but an undergrad student when it started. Granted he did some bug studies but that is NOT a co-founder and MANY of the students worked their butts off back then and for him to take credit for it pissed me off. It also scares me to think even though he is a respected anthropologist he had to lie to make himself look better. If he would do that, what else will he do and that is why I contacted Ashton.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 01:55:55 PM
ya know, JA is one of the sharpest minds I have had the pleasure of watching in court.. I hope he has the 411 on this guy before he testifies tomorrow.. That would be EPIC!!!!
 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyGavel::

We are working on getting the info to him or at least to someone who can get it to him.

I sent Ashton a direct email about it last night. It really bothers me this man misrepresented himself as being a co-founder of the body farm when he was nothing but an undergrad student when it started. Granted he did some bug studies but that is NOT a co-founder and MANY of the students worked their butts off back then and for him to take credit for it pissed me off. It also scares me to think even though he is a respected anthropologist he had to lie to make himself look better. If he would do that, what else will he do and that is why I contacted Ashton.

Absolutely!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 01:56:25 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

Thanks Turbothink!  He lives there as well as I already found a white pages listing for him.  Just wasn't sure until this post of yours if it was the same guy.

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::  he's there, he's not there, he's there, he's not there


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 01:57:30 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?

He looks like Rip Torn to me......http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thebestgossip.com/uploaded_images/Rip_Torn_9988-768216.jpg&imgrefurl=http://thebestgossip.com/2007/04/rip-torn-wants-non-jurl-trial.html&usg=__r8yHkFmcHyq9Ug-KF2dzcsLhYtQ=&h=727&w=450&sz=35&hl=en&start=27&zoom=1&tbnid=8L19p8H6I9xuPM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=86&ei=ADb-TdeyIurZ0QGJv4SxAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drip%2Btorn%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7TSNA_enUS396%26biw%3D1362%26bih%3D587%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1068&vpy=150&dur=390&hovh=285&hovw=177&tx=120&ty=238&page=2&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:27&biw=1362&bih=587

Check out the pic ::MonkeyEek::

omg, that is creepy!   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek::

Looks just like him, except Rip Torn didn't have the "comb over" goin on!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 01:57:51 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?
I not sure  since Reds article above says that BRod and Bass stay in contact weekly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: 4 Donks on June 19, 2011, 01:58:33 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

Thanks Turbothink!  He lives there as well as I already found a white pages listing for him.  Just wasn't sure until this post of yours if it was the same guy.

This guy must have b*lls. In his CV he claims he is co-founder of the body farm and has Dr.Bass as a reference. I posted a link to his CV yesterday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 01:59:33 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?

I also pointed out to Ashton that originally there were NO FENCES and those were only built after some of the UT students "got wind" (a little pun there) of what they were doing and started going to see the bodies. LOL There also used to be an animal research facility on that back road but it has been torn down since.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 02:00:16 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

Don't know if this has been posted.
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Rodriguez_William_56504426.aspx


Dr. William C. Rodriguez III
Medical Examiner and Forensic Anthropologist With the Office
Local Address: Rockville, Maryland, United States
Share This Profile         
 ::MonkeyBike::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 02:01:10 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

Thanks Turbothink!  He lives there as well as I already found a white pages listing for him.  Just wasn't sure until this post of yours if it was the same guy.

This guy must have b*lls. In his CV he claims he is co-founder of the body farm and has Dr.Bass as a reference. I posted a link to his CV yesterday.

I don't think he thought anyone would question his credentials. I told Ashton to call Dr. Bass.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 02:01:21 PM
Is Rodriguez claiming to have cofounded The Body Farm or is it the media suggesting that? I've seen nothing that shows he cofounded it with Bass, only that he helped start it. When I see "helped start", I tend to think it was when more cadavar were added as well as other grad students. I'm trying to remember how many students there were on this team. I forget. Turbo would know, she knows her Bass! I think it was a group of 6 grad students, including Rodriguez, but I could be off. I seriously forget. This group help form the forensic study edu as we know it today. As far as founding, that has to be Bass. Just like all the articles say, he started with 1 body & a concrete slab, as working for TN as the ME. He's one smart fart!

Actually he was not even a graduate student when the Body Farm was started so you are right. I think the hype about him being a co-founder is BS and I really can't see him saying that because it is too easy to check. It most likely is media hype.

I just went back and listened to the first part of his testimony from this morning.  Baez asked him if he was a Co-Founder of The Body Farm, and he answered yes, he was.  He goes on to tell how that came about...

Starts at about 5:25

http://www.wftv.com/video/28280973/index.html



I just fired off an email to Jeff Ashton about his statement and suggested he contact Dr. Bass for verification but that Rodriguez was not a co-founder but a research assistant. I included the years he attended UT and what degrees he held at that time. If he lied about one thing he is not a dependable witness.

Not shocked at all, not even shocked he stated for the record in court that he was a co-founder.......impeach his ass Jeff  ::MonkeyGavel:: ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 02:01:44 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?

I also pointed out to Ashton that originally there were NO FENCES and those were only built after some of the UT students "got wind" (a little pun there) of what they were doing and started going to see the bodies. LOL There also used to be an animal research facility on that back road but it has been torn down since.

I didn't note the link and I looked at so many I'm not sure I could find it again, but iirc I read that there were some protests from locals in the early days as well BEFORE the fences went up, and that the fences seemed to resolve that problem.  Do you remember anything about that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 02:03:14 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?

He looks like Rip Torn to me......http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thebestgossip.com/uploaded_images/Rip_Torn_9988-768216.jpg&imgrefurl=http://thebestgossip.com/2007/04/rip-torn-wants-non-jurl-trial.html&usg=__r8yHkFmcHyq9Ug-KF2dzcsLhYtQ=&h=727&w=450&sz=35&hl=en&start=27&zoom=1&tbnid=8L19p8H6I9xuPM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=86&ei=ADb-TdeyIurZ0QGJv4SxAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drip%2Btorn%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7TSNA_enUS396%26biw%3D1362%26bih%3D587%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1068&vpy=150&dur=390&hovh=285&hovw=177&tx=120&ty=238&page=2&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:27&biw=1362&bih=587

Check out the pic ::MonkeyEek::

omg, that is creepy!   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek::

Looks just like him, except Rip Torn didn't have the "comb over" goin on!   ::MonkeyDevil::

I knew he creeper me out, and that he looked like someone but couldn't out my finger on it, then snap it hit me.....damn, it's uncanny IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 02:06:24 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?
I not sure  since Reds article above says that BRod and Bass stay in contact weekly.


BBM
I cannot find that......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: theboyzmom on June 19, 2011, 02:07:50 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

Wasn't there talk of someone from NASA peeking in to the cage? Wonder if it was the same person - I am sure they use the same server as the military . .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 02:09:47 PM
No mention of Rodriguez in this current brochure from UT.

http://web.utk.edu/~fac/pdf/FAC_brochure.pdf

 ::snipping2::

Anthropological Research Facility

The Research Facility, opened at its present location in 1980 by Dr. William M. Bass, provides an ideal setting to scientifically document postmortem change. This outdoor field laboratory enables the investigation of parameters which are crucial in time since death estimates. Donated remains make this research possible and simultaneously provide a modern osteological teaching and research collection. Please contact Dr. Lee Meadows Jantz regarding use of this facility.
 ::snipping2::

Here is a snippet from a Newsweek 2010 article that references Rodriguez as an alumni of the Body Farm, not a cofounder.

http://www.newsweek.com/2000/10/22/down-on-the-body-farm.html


Body Farm alumni have probed many of the world's trouble spots. William Rodriguez, chief deputy for special investigations with the U.S. Armed Forces Medical Examiner in Washington, D.C., led the U.S. medical team into Kosovo just after last year's armistice. It looked at 300 victims from two different regions and provided the War Crimes Tribunal with evidence for the initial indictments against Slobodan Milosevic. "Most of the remains were in an advanced state of decomposition," says Rodriguez, who earned his Ph.D. from UT in 1984 and remains in weekly contact with his mentor Bass.
 ::snipping2::

A student is hardly a co-founder.
Sorry about the big stack


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 02:10:36 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?
I not sure  since Reds article above says that BRod and Bass stay in contact weekly.

In the professional community that is not unusual as Dr. Bass is called by most of his students for ideas and help. If you knew Dr. Bass you would understand that he is not one to hold a grudge or even care about insignificant things like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 02:10:41 PM
Klaas pz delete my last post...... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 02:13:06 PM
The Wiki edit to the Body Farm wiki page for the Rodriguez entry was made by an IP in the Maryland area.  Very possible that Rodriguez lives in that area.  Just saying ::MonkeyCool::

Rodriguez, William C., III, Ph.D.,
No. 40    Office of the Armed Force Medical Examiner
1413 Research Boulevard, Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
E-mail: william.c.rodriguez1@us.army.mil     (301) 319-0000

Wasn't there talk of someone from NASA peeking in to the cage? Wonder if it was the same person - I am sure they use the same server as the military . .
I posted that from the sitemeter  ::MonkeyDevil:: I noticed it while looking for someone from my town to see if they were watching the trial online.. they were  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 02:13:13 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?

He looks like Rip Torn to me......http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thebestgossip.com/uploaded_images/Rip_Torn_9988-768216.jpg&imgrefurl=http://thebestgossip.com/2007/04/rip-torn-wants-non-jurl-trial.html&usg=__r8yHkFmcHyq9Ug-KF2dzcsLhYtQ=&h=727&w=450&sz=35&hl=en&start=27&zoom=1&tbnid=8L19p8H6I9xuPM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=86&ei=ADb-TdeyIurZ0QGJv4SxAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drip%2Btorn%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7TSNA_enUS396%26biw%3D1362%26bih%3D587%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1068&vpy=150&dur=390&hovh=285&hovw=177&tx=120&ty=238&page=2&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:27&biw=1362&bih=587

Check out the pic ::MonkeyEek::

OMG  they do look amazingly alike!  Actor Rip Torn on the left, Dr. William C. Rodriguez III on the right  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5117/5849184343_97ea6acf73_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 02:15:31 PM
Klaas pz delete my last post...... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Which one?  I don't see anything so bad to be deleted  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 19, 2011, 02:15:47 PM
Someone send Rodriguez an email and check to see if the IP is the same as the wiki edit 69.143.82.63  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I know you smart monkeys probably already did this but I have not seen this yet.  Whoever it is is in Maryland.

http://cqcounter.com/whois/

69.143.82.63 - Geo Information
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Host c-69-143-82-63.hsd1.md.comcast.net
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City Columbia, MD -
Organization Comcast Cable
ISP Comcast Cable
AS Number AS33657 Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.
Latitude 39°19'66" North
Longitude 76°84'92" West
Distance 7878.75 km (4895.63 miles)
Map Location   World Map   Google Maps   Yahoo Maps   Microsoft Live Maps   
 
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 02:16:47 PM
Algary, I found it..in that Newsweek article.. Dr Rod said he stays in weekly touch.. Now I dont believe anything he says  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 02:23:29 PM
Dr Rod: Hi Bill.. I am going to testify at the KC Anthony trial. Dont watch it, ok?
Dr Bass: Why not. Dr Rod?
Dr Rod: No reason.. remember when I helped you pour concrete and build fences at the farm? Thanks for everything. I was an original member wsnt I?
Dr Bass: Yes, Dr Rod, you were
Dr Rod: OK I am off to Orlando. I will talk to you next week! Remember, dont watch the trial
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: 4 Donks on June 19, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
I hate to say this but Dr. Bass is about the same age as Dr. Spitz and perhaps this guy is taking advantage of him.

http://www.nndb.com/people/714/000031621/

Indicates he was born in 1928


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
Where did everybody go? I know turbo and klaas are somewhere creating kefuffle on wiki pages.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 02:43:12 PM
I hate to say this but Dr. Bass is about the same age as Dr. Spitz and perhaps this guy is taking advantage of him.

http://www.nndb.com/people/714/000031621/

Indicates he was born in 1928

Good point.  Could be that even if Dr. Bass knew he wouldn't choose to care.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 02:43:48 PM
Where did everybody go? I know turbo and klaas are somewhere creating kefuffle on wiki pages.

Love that word kefuffle.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 02:45:31 PM
Where did everybody go? I know turbo and klaas are somewhere creating kefuffle on wiki pages.

Love that word kefuffle.   ::MonkeyCool::
Almost afraid to go back and look at that page now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: wreck on June 19, 2011, 02:46:03 PM
kerfuffle


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 19, 2011, 02:47:04 PM
If the defense is claiming all of these conspiracies then why didn't LE plant whorseface's finger prints all over the duct tape?

That would be too obvious.  They would rather just stage the skull and the hair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 02:49:13 PM
Thanks Wreck - you are correct

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kerfuffle

ker·fuf·fle
noun \kər-ˈfə-fəl\
Definition of KERFUFFLE
chiefly British
: disturbance, fuss


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 19, 2011, 02:49:25 PM
Great information you guys have found on Body Farm. I found a place with to me is "unreliable" that states he was co-founder but consider the source. You info is so much reliable.

Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_farm)

" It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez ..."

I guess we can figure who gave the info on that.

That has just been added because I looked it up on wiki last night and it was not there. Someone has added it since then. Of course anyone can add anything and unless someone disputes it, it stays. I am writing them to dispute it.

Check it out now.
no mention of him......................   ::MonkeyEek::  I hear crickets

Wow! That was quick. That was an exact quote from this am. That is why I didn't put a lot into it being on Wikipedia knowing things can be changed easily but that is weird. I am glad now it is corrected.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: mizjay on June 19, 2011, 02:50:59 PM
I hate to say this but Dr. Bass is about the same age as Dr. Spitz and perhaps this guy is taking advantage of him.

http://www.nndb.com/people/714/000031621/

Indicates he was born in 1928
Could be.   Probably through the years of his career, Rodriguez has decided that his early involvement and contributions SHOULD have been recognized as being significant....no more than significant, downright absolute....he (in his mind) was waaaay more than a student. He's a co founder.  What do you want to bet that if he's called on this discrepancy, first it'll be a 15minute sidebar and then some tap dance about co founding= helping to start it by being there...some baezblab that he THINKS makes sense but everybody in the world knows it's the usual crap.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 19, 2011, 03:06:08 PM
LOOK WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME....http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=131602623587269&oid=63445888416&comments
Jun 18, 2011 3:20pm


That is just too funny and I KNOW HE HAS TO BE THINKING THAT.  He has to be. 


is this virus i see lotsa different video clips of kids foolin around singing limo ride, quitar playing. What do u see?sl

No, for the benefit of those could not see it.  You know that picture where JBP is satnding behind the wench looking in at the court room?  Well somebody added audio/mouth moving to it, where JBP is talking.  He is saying things like we will get you you lier.  Look at what you did to you family.  I never lost a case.  In a southern drawl type of voice. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: OriginalKat on June 19, 2011, 03:08:43 PM
Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..

The motion, which did not include many specifics, said the reports “are based entirely upon statements made to them by” Anthony.

Ashton goes on to say they do not diagnose Anthony “as suffering from any clinical or personality disorders as recognized by the American Psychiatric Association.”

WTF???  It is impossible to diagnose her accurately based on anything she says...she lies about everything.....she cannot be trusted to tell the truth about anything!!  Her actions speak more truthfully than anything that comes out of her mouth!!

Even Bozo stated she is a liar in court.

I will tell you what my stepson did to his own dad.  He had anger problems, defiance problems, resented step-father who was a nice man. He was put around others with these problems and several had been molested as a child, etc. He decided to tell his counselors and mom that he had been sexually molested by his dad as a child(they divorced when he was 7). Well his dad went through pure hell being accused of this. It was unfounded by the way but just the accusation.  He was 13 at the time of this and his mom was going to give custody up to the state. My husband asked if he could move in with us and let us try to help him.  He did and he was pretty well behaved for us. Never showed temper and was good to his baby sister. He and I became close and one day he confessed to me he lied about it. I said when your dad gets home I want you to tell him and then call your mom and tell her. He did all that. He said he just wanted attention. He had a younger sister back home who got all the attention. Just wanted to share that because it is a horrible accusation for someone to lie about. We all know and now the world knows Casey lies. There are no excuses for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 03:20:07 PM
Ashton says in the Orlando news copied on this link...
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/04/prosecution-wants-mental-health-reports-about-casey-kept-out/

There is nothing in the results of Caseys mental evaluation by the American psychiatry institution that says she has been diagnosed with ANY disorder.. no personality disorder. No clinical illness..

The motion, which did not include many specifics, said the reports “are based entirely upon statements made to them by” Anthony.

Ashton goes on to say they do not diagnose Anthony “as suffering from any clinical or personality disorders as recognized by the American Psychiatric Association.”

WTF???  It is impossible to diagnose her accurately based on anything she says...she lies about everything.....she cannot be trusted to tell the truth about anything!!  Her actions speak more truthfully than anything that comes out of her mouth!!

Even Bozo stated she is a liar in court.

I will tell you what my stepson did to his own dad.  He had anger problems, defiance problems, resented step-father who was a nice man. He was put around others with these problems and several had been molested as a child, etc. He decided to tell his counselors and mom that he had been sexually molested by his dad as a child(they divorced when he was 7). Well his dad went through pure hell being accused of this. It was unfounded by the way but just the accusation.  He was 13 at the time of this and his mom was going to give custody up to the state. My husband asked if he could move in with us and let us try to help him.  He did and he was pretty well behaved for us. Never showed temper and was good to his baby sister. He and I became close and one day he confessed to me he lied about it. I said when your dad gets home I want you to tell him and then call your mom and tell her. He did all that. He said he just wanted attention. He had a younger sister back home who got all the attention. Just wanted to share that because it is a horrible accusation for someone to lie about. We all know and now the world knows Casey lies. There are no excuses for her.

Holly cow, that sucks.. ::MonkeyShocked::
Btw how did everyone get over this?

I never believed kc about George.
Kc is just a user period. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 03:55:31 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 04:09:17 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



That's so sad.  Wonder if she got the idea, on how to kill them from kc story.
3 kids....just terrible. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 19, 2011, 04:11:39 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 04:21:06 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Curly on June 19, 2011, 04:22:41 PM
This is hilarious!

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Wonder if Baez is smoking a bowl right now, while playing Spitz's testimony in reverse to see if it subliminally helped #CaseyAnthony
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby (http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 04:22:58 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


That was in 1998 ......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 04:26:43 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced

http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced The night before, court documents show, Megan Hogg had argued with her mother about the children. Hogg later told officers that she had been upset because her mother had threatened to kick her out of the house and to get physical custody of the children.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 04:27:27 PM
This is hilarious!

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Wonder if Baez is smoking a bowl right now, while playing Spitz's testimony in reverse to see if it subliminally helped #CaseyAnthony
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby (http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby)

::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 04:28:46 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 04:30:30 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Looks like Rodriguez has been busy... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 04:30:40 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 04:30:50 PM
I hate to say this but Dr. Bass is about the same age as Dr. Spitz and perhaps this guy is taking advantage of him.

http://www.nndb.com/people/714/000031621/

Indicates he was born in 1928

Oh no, Bill Bass is as sharp as a tack. To see him and talk to him you would guess him about 60 years old.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 04:31:22 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee


It is an interesting read for sure Sunny...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 19, 2011, 04:32:25 PM
This is hilarious!

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Wonder if Baez is smoking a bowl right now, while playing Spitz's testimony in reverse to see if it subliminally helped #CaseyAnthony
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby (http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby)



LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 04:32:38 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Turbo
- take a look  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 04:33:59 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced

plea deal my ass...anyone who cuuld do that to their children needs to spend the rest of their miserable lives in jail....with photos of their children plastered all over their cells and a tape running continuously of their child(rens) voices.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 04:34:32 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee

All the crazies will be using it now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 04:35:33 PM
This is hilarious!

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Wonder if Baez is smoking a bowl right now, while playing Spitz's testimony in reverse to see if it subliminally helped #CaseyAnthony
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby (http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby)


 ::MonkeyJnBox:: who'd of thunk hornsby had a sense of humor


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 04:36:48 PM
I hate to say this but Dr. Bass is about the same age as Dr. Spitz and perhaps this guy is taking advantage of him.

http://www.nndb.com/people/714/000031621/

Indicates he was born in 1928
Could be.   Probably through the years of his career, Rodriguez has decided that his early involvement and contributions SHOULD have been recognized as being significant....no more than significant, downright absolute....he (in his mind) was waaaay more than a student. He's a co founder.  What do you want to bet that if he's called on this discrepancy, first it'll be a 15minute sidebar and then some tap dance about co founding= helping to start it by being there...some baezblab that he THINKS makes sense but everybody in the world knows it's the usual crap.

I am SO looking forward to this one................how dare him lie about such significant work of Bill Bass's and act like he was a co-founder when he had not even graduated from UT when Bass started it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 04:37:16 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced

http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced The night before, court documents show, Megan Hogg had argued with her mother about the children. Hogg later told officers that she had been upset because her mother had threatened to kick her out of the house and to get physical custody of the children.

oh heck....do doo, do doo,  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 04:38:52 PM
This is hilarious!

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Wonder if Baez is smoking a bowl right now, while playing Spitz's testimony in reverse to see if it subliminally helped #CaseyAnthony
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby (http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby)

Cool! I'm going to start it at the beginning of The Wizard of  Oz.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee

All the crazies will be using it now.

Turbo...this happened in 1998....maybe Casey got the idea from this...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: pharlap on June 19, 2011, 04:39:17 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Turbo
- take a look  ::MonkeyCool::

Great csi............. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 04:39:47 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced

plea deal my ass...anyone who cuuld do that to their children needs to spend the rest of their miserable lives in jail....with photos of their children plastered all over their cells and a tape running continuously of their child(rens) voices.

I totally agree Sunny!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 04:41:38 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723 (http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/node/723)

Is Casey Anthony's Defense in Chaos?


Published June 17, 2011 | On the Record | On the Record

Special Guests: Attorneys Bernie Grimm and Ted Williams, Jim Hammer, Diana Tennis
video link (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1002004157001/casey-anthony-trial-courtroom-circus/)
Thanks for the link Klaas.

I like Jim Hammer as a legal analyst. But I always thought the affable Bernie Grimm and the grammatically challenged Ted Williams were two of the weakest legal analysts on television ...  dating all the way back to the early stages of the Natalee Holloway case.

So you can imagine my surprise when I saw them on a Fox News panel once again b/c I would have thought that Fox News would have decided not to renew their contracts years ago.

Then this is further exacerbated by using Dr. Baden as an unchallenged expert when he and his wife have ties to the defense team.

I tell you who had a good (and balanced) show on Fox News ... it was Jeanine Pirro. Her two hour special on Saturday was very well done.

yep, I just wish she would not have gotten Casey & Caylee's names mixed up a few times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 04:41:57 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee

All the crazies will be using it now.

Yep....women killing their children just makes me crazy.....hell, walk away, give them away, kill yourself.....but kill them.....my mind can't go there to even try to understand


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 04:43:48 PM
I hate to say this but Dr. Bass is about the same age as Dr. Spitz and perhaps this guy is taking advantage of him.

http://www.nndb.com/people/714/000031621/

Indicates he was born in 1928
Could be.   Probably through the years of his career, Rodriguez has decided that his early involvement and contributions SHOULD have been recognized as being significant....no more than significant, downright absolute....he (in his mind) was waaaay more than a student. He's a co founder.  What do you want to bet that if he's called on this discrepancy, first it'll be a 15minute sidebar and then some tap dance about co founding= helping to start it by being there...some baezblab that he THINKS makes sense but everybody in the world knows it's the usual crap.

I am SO looking forward to this one................how dare him lie about such significant work of Bill Bass's and act like he was a co-founder when he had not even graduated from UT when Bass started it.

"baezblab" love it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 19, 2011, 04:43:58 PM
Were these August, 2008 words of Baden pertaining to the 'Body Farm' techniques prior to the his wife's Baez connection following the December, 2008 discovery of Caylee's remains?

Janet

+++++


Caylee Search: Psychics, Jail Visits Refused, 'Body Farm' Techniques
Tuesday, August 12, 2008


VAN SUSTEREN: .... Joining us live is forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden. Dr. Baden, can they take an air sample from the trunk and determine whether or not there had been a body decomposing in that truck?

DR. MICHAEL BADEN, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Yes, because after we die and the bacteria proliferate in our body and start breaking down our muscles and our fat and organs, vapors, gases, are formed with beautiful names like cadaverine (ph) and putrescine (ph) that are a particular structure that are easily picked up in the toxicology lab if they're collected from the area, the air that the body was in. And if there was a dead body in the trunk of the car and they collected the air sample, they should be able to find those chemicals.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html




Janet, thank you for finding that article.  I knew I heard Baden early on saying a lot of things....then what changed? (We know what)  BTW...you are a walking encyclopedia ..don't know how you do it.

I used your link and sent this to Vinnie Politan.  Hope you approve.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

Vinnie...the next time Linda Kenny-Baden comes on your show sporting her newest face lift, please reference & read this article.  Wonder what happened?  Did the fame & money tarnish her & her husband???  Vinnie, we are not stupid bloggers...we have read all of the discovery...tapes, depositions, etc..  But, we are really sick of CNN, HLN, etc. having these people coming on the shows insulting our intelligence with their very obvious lies.  Let's be fair to this child who had a right to live.  Let not let this child's death be for no reason....WE NEED TO MAKE THE LAWS STIFFER FOR PARENTS WHO MURDER THEIR CHILDREN ...NOT GIVE THEM A PASS.   It should be a mandatory LWOP.....not a couple of years & call it fancy words like FILICIDE!!!!   These are murderers to the worst degree.  Thank you for what you are doing for Caylee & hug your children for all of us who appreciate your sincerity when you remind parents to do the same.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 04:45:05 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced

plea deal my ass...anyone who cuuld do that to their children needs to spend the rest of their miserable lives in jail....with photos of their children plastered all over their cells and a tape running continuously of their child(rens) voices.

I totally agree Sunny!!!

I was never into the paranormal but did have a "ghost" experience and am now a believer!  I hope that little girl haunts Casey in prison for the rest of her miserable life!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: beth1970 on June 19, 2011, 04:45:38 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee

All the crazies will be using it now.

Turbo...this happened in 1998....maybe Casey got the idea from this...
Wow - just Wow!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 04:47:14 PM

Janet, thank you for finding that article.  I knew I heard Baden early on saying a lot of things....then what changed? (We know what)  BTW...you are a walking encyclopedia ..don't know how you do it.

I used your link and sent this to Vinnie Politan.  Hope you approve.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

Vinnie...the next time Linda Kenny-Baden comes on your show sporting her newest face lift, please reference & read this article.  Wonder what happened?  Did the fame & money tarnish her & her husband???  Vinnie, we are not stupid bloggers...we have read all of the discovery...tapes, depositions, etc..  But, we are really sick of CNN, HLN, etc. having these people coming on the shows insulting our intelligence with their very obvious lies.  Let's be fair to this child who had a right to live.  Let not let this child's death be for no reason....WE NEED TO MAKE THE LAWS STIFFER FOR PARENTS WHO MURDER THEIR CHILDREN ...NOT GIVE THEM A PASS.   It should be a mandatory LWOP.....not a couple of years & call it fancy words like FILICIDE!!!!   These are murderers to the worst degree.  Thank you for what you are doing for Caylee & hug your children for all of us who appreciate your sincerity when you remind parents to do the same.  

way to go Bluesy!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 19, 2011, 05:01:54 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee

All the crazies will be using it now.

Yep....women killing their children just makes me crazy.....hell, walk away, give them away, kill yourself.....but kill them.....my mind can't go there to even try to understand

PREFACE:  I WOULD NEVER KILL MYSELF

Okay, now that that is out of the way..  If I were to kill myself, I would not want to leave my kids alone.  There is nobody would could care for them.  Hubby has to work.  My family sucks.  His family sucks.  I cannot see myself killing them ever, but I cannot see myself leaving them either.  I don't know.  Guess that is why my prefrace. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: mizjay on June 19, 2011, 05:01:55 PM
I hate to say this but Dr. Bass is about the same age as Dr. Spitz and perhaps this guy is taking advantage of him.

http://www.nndb.com/people/714/000031621/

Indicates he was born in 1928
Could be.   Probably through the years of his career, Rodriguez has decided that his early involvement and contributions SHOULD have been recognized as being significant....no more than significant, downright absolute....he (in his mind) was waaaay more than a student. He's a co founder.  What do you want to bet that if he's called on this discrepancy, first it'll be a 15minute sidebar and then some tap dance about co founding= helping to start it by being there...some baezblab that he THINKS makes sense but everybody in the world knows it's the usual crap.

I am SO looking forward to this one................how dare him lie about such significant work of Bill Bass's and act like he was a co-founder when he had not even graduated from UT when Bass started it.

Turbo, you and Klaas have done some awesome fact finding on this. I think it's huge, in the big picture. Another expert who has credibility issues and maybe an ax to grind with maybe his feeling that his contributions weren't recognized. Just like Bozo who fancies himself a great atty. Baez may have also been planning on using the guy to slam some of the more recent work from TBF. If Baez thought he could get someone with some letters behind the name to slam Vass, he'd be all over it.

Even if Baez wanted him for his rogue duct tape theories and whatever else, it's highly suspicious to try and lay groundwork that he's got some authority or clout that he really doesn't.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: 4myjoey on June 19, 2011, 05:02:16 PM
Profile of Dr. Bill Bass, founder of The Body Farm.


http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/bill_bass/index.html


Interesting read...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on June 19, 2011, 05:03:17 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced

plea deal my ass...anyone who cuuld do that to their children needs to spend the rest of their miserable lives in jail....with photos of their children plastered all over their cells and a tape running continuously of their child(rens) voices.

I just said the same thing to my mom today, play that "you are my sunshine" song in Casey's jail cell 24 hrs a day and upon the day of her lethal dose, all people who come to view her being put to death put duct tape on theirs mouths so that's the last thing she sees.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 05:03:53 PM
This is hilarious!

RichardHornsby Richard Hornsby
Wonder if Baez is smoking a bowl right now, while playing Spitz's testimony in reverse to see if it subliminally helped #CaseyAnthony
http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby (http://twitter.com/#!/RichardHornsby)


This is freaking hysterical!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 05:04:06 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?

I also pointed out to Ashton that originally there were NO FENCES and those were only built after some of the UT students "got wind" (a little pun there) of what they were doing and started going to see the bodies. LOL There also used to be an animal research facility on that back road but it has been torn down since.

I didn't note the link and I looked at so many I'm not sure I could find it again, but iirc I read that there were some protests from locals in the early days as well BEFORE the fences went up, and that the fences seemed to resolve that problem.  Do you remember anything about that?

Yeah, it was some group who thought it very morbid and undignified for bodies to be laid out in a field. It was not college students that I remember, but they even tried to get a bill passed in legislature but LE interceded and got it stopped because it was so beneficial to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: ZooMomology on June 19, 2011, 05:05:17 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee

All the crazies will be using it now.

Yep....women killing their children just makes me crazy.....hell, walk away, give them away, kill yourself.....but kill them.....my mind can't go there to even try to understand

PREFACE:  I WOULD NEVER KILL MYSELF

Okay, now that that is out of the way..  If I were to kill myself, I would not want to leave my kids alone.  There is nobody would could care for them.  Hubby has to work.  My family sucks.  His family sucks.  I cannot see myself killing them ever, but I cannot see myself leaving them either.  I don't know.  Guess that is why my prefrace. 

I also would hate to leave my kids with the why did I do it if I were to kill myself and yes, they could go to foster care, but they are much older. 

Gosh, I hate even thinking about this. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 05:06:04 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee

All the crazies will be using it now.

Turbo...this happened in 1998....maybe Casey got the idea from this...

That is possible, I didn't look at the date. There was also a case in the Dakotas where a woman drove around for months with her dead child in the trunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 05:17:47 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Hi Klaas & Monkeys! Happy Father's Day to all the daddys out there!

This investigative stuff right here is exactly why I love it here so much! I hate wiki! I only use it for quick reference but even that is stupid as we can now see. I'm wondering if Rodriguez feels like it's ok to say he's a cofounder bc it was his idea to research bug life on human remains.

Klaas, I just thought of something. Adding Rodriguez to Body Farm wiki page was 2009. I wonder if Ashton could ask him when he was first contacted. Also, remember Baez questioned Vass about his wiki page stating he is a chemist & Vass replied that he knows nothing about a wiki page, etc. Well could you please look when that info on Vass was posted to wiki...specifically "chemist" and list the address? It is my thought that sabotage against the prosecution was implemented early on. As soon as the dp was on the table, the experts came put of the woodwork. Remember, Andrea Lyon held that class...actually multiple classes...to do whatever it takes to save the defendants life? A recording of her teaching this surfaced once she came on board Casey's Defense. She talked about discrediting people, lying, etc. One more thing, I still haven't found that video of Baden going to the UT Anthropological Research Facility. I swear I think it's deleted or something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 19, 2011, 05:18:44 PM

July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

Funny Cindy does not mention Her love for Caylee in her post.
And when she called 911 first time does not mention her being gone.
Just money and car!
When she KNEW Caseys clothes and car smelled like death.
Odd family love..


BBM  Cindy gives us the motive & the perp.  Jealousy & KC.  She also right there says she knew ICA was not employed...especially as an 'event planner'.

I think this is coming in at some point in the trial.  (Unless it has been ruled not admissable in one of the pre-trial motions).  Pros. may be holding back on this admission by Spindy.  IMO they are waiting for her 'Grunch Personality' to show itself.  As the jury 'sees' her right now....the sobbing, grieving, blah blah blah..devastated mother/GM...they would think the Pros. is attacking her & might hold it against them.  So they have to wait till she comes at them first.  Fingers crossed it will be soon. I have faith that the Pros. knows what buttons of hers to push to get it out of her...they are just biding their time.  
      

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx17.htm

Histrionic personality disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of attention seeking behavior and extreme emotionality. Someone with histrionic personality disorder wants to be the center of attention in any group of people, and feel uncomfortable when they are not. While often lively, interesting and sometimes dramatic, they have difficulty when people aren't focused exclusively on them. People with this disorder may be perceived as being shallow, and may engage in sexually seductive or provocating behavior to draw attention to themselves.

Individuals with Histrionic Personality Disorder may have difficulty achieving emotional intimacy in romantic or sexual relationships. Without being aware of it, they often act out a role (e.g., "victim" or "princess") in their relationships to others. They may seek to control their partner through emotional manipulation or seductiveness on one level, whereas displaying a marked dependency on them at another level.
 ::snipping2::

There's a lot more in that article that fits her to a tee.

Now, tell me this doesn't partially/completely describe Sindy!!!!  IMO if they start ignoring her at the trial...we will see some more of her histrionic 'moves'....like crying into George's chest all the way down 23 floors.  GMAB....GAG


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 05:20:03 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Hi Klaas & Monkeys! Happy Father's Day to all the daddys out there!

This investigative stuff right here is exactly why I love it here so much! I hate wiki! I only use it for quick reference but even that is stupid as we can now see. I'm wondering if Rodriguez feels like it's ok to say he's a cofounder bc it was his idea to research bug life on human remains.

Klaas, I just thought of something. Adding Rodriguez to Body Farm wiki page was 2009. I wonder if Ashton could ask him when he was first contacted. Also, remember Baez questioned Vass about his wiki page stating he is a chemist & Vass replied that he knows nothing about a wiki page, etc. Well could you please look when that info on Vass was posted to wiki...specifically "chemist" and list the address? It is my thought that sabotage against the prosecution was implemented early on. As soon as the dp was on the table, the experts came put of the woodwork. Remember, Andrea Lyon held that class...actually multiple classes...to do whatever it takes to save the defendants life? A recording of her teaching this surfaced once she came on board Casey's Defense. She talked about discrediting people, lying, etc. One more thing, I still haven't found that video of Baden going to the UT Anthropological Research Facility. I swear I think it's deleted or something.

Sure, I'll look at Vass's wiki


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 05:20:18 PM
I hate to say this but Dr. Bass is about the same age as Dr. Spitz and perhaps this guy is taking advantage of him.

http://www.nndb.com/people/714/000031621/

Indicates he was born in 1928
Could be.   Probably through the years of his career, Rodriguez has decided that his early involvement and contributions SHOULD have been recognized as being significant....no more than significant, downright absolute....he (in his mind) was waaaay more than a student. He's a co founder.  What do you want to bet that if he's called on this discrepancy, first it'll be a 15minute sidebar and then some tap dance about co founding= helping to start it by being there...some baezblab that he THINKS makes sense but everybody in the world knows it's the usual crap.

I am SO looking forward to this one................how dare him lie about such significant work of Bill Bass's and act like he was a co-founder when he had not even graduated from UT when Bass started it.

Turbo, I heart you for emailing Ashton.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Anna on June 19, 2011, 05:24:27 PM
Did anyone ever send Ashton the FP post about Casey telling Lee addreses with the names Frenandez, Gonzoles and Zanida all in them in front of where Caylee's remains were found?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 19, 2011, 05:28:22 PM
Profile of Dr. Bill Bass, founder of The Body Farm.


http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/bill_bass/index.html


Interesting read...



thanks I am printing the pages.....it looks interesting


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 19, 2011, 05:29:40 PM

Janet, thank you for finding that article.  I knew I heard Baden early on saying a lot of things....then what changed? (We know what)  BTW...you are a walking encyclopedia ..don't know how you do it.

I used your link and sent this to Vinnie Politan.  Hope you approve.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

Vinnie...the next time Linda Kenny-Baden comes on your show sporting her newest face lift, please reference & read this article.  Wonder what happened?  Did the fame & money tarnish her & her husband???  Vinnie, we are not stupid bloggers...we have read all of the discovery...tapes, depositions, etc..  But, we are really sick of CNN, HLN, etc. having these people coming on the shows insulting our intelligence with their very obvious lies.  Let's be fair to this child who had a right to live.  Let not let this child's death be for no reason....WE NEED TO MAKE THE LAWS STIFFER FOR PARENTS WHO MURDER THEIR CHILDREN ...NOT GIVE THEM A PASS.   It should be a mandatory LWOP.....not a couple of years & call it fancy words like FILICIDE!!!!   These are murderers to the worst degree.  Thank you for what you are doing for Caylee & hug your children for all of us who appreciate your sincerity when you remind parents to do the same.  

way to go Bluesy!!!!

Thank you Sunny.  I really think we need to get a 'movement' going for getting filicide to be a mandatory sentence throughout all 50 states.  We need the media's help.  I am sick of this plea bargaining cr*p!!  Let 'em plea to LWOP .  It would sure make the prosecutor's job a lot easier and not bankrupt the State's budget for these POS.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 05:33:12 PM
Looks like when Arpad Vass was first added to Wiki someone put he was "Known For"  Forensic Chemistry.  That error was corrected on June 6, 2011 by someone with the IP 64.79.101.174, which is coming up as a United Kingdom IP for me.  It was changed to Forensic Science.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arpad_Vass&diff=432885619&oldid=432885437

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/5850475386_82e49f1278_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 05:33:15 PM
Holy shitake! I just found a cached site that lists expert witnesses. It's a long read but seriously interesting. An expert can make up to $7000 an hour being consulted on court cases & taking the stand. This site, if you scroll down, lists over 600 expert witnesses. They are entered into data bases. Several well known names are on this list. Just scroll down...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:u0lrH6jLr54J:orp-india.com/blog/



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 05:36:16 PM
Thank you Klaas, but does it show any other corrections or additions? I'm wondering when the chemist info was added.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Red on June 19, 2011, 05:41:08 PM
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Is William C. Rodriguez III Really a Co-Founder of the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility, Better Known as “The Body Farm”? I though Dr. Bass Founded It!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/06/19/casey-anthony-murder-trial-is-william-c-rodriguez-iii-really-a-co-founder-of-the-university-of-tennessee-anthropological-research-facility-better-known-as-the-body-farm-i-though-dr-bass-found/

Quote
Things That Make You Go Hmm …

Yesterday, during the tumultuous morning  of the Casey Anthony murder trial when defense expert witness, William C. Rodriguez, was on the witness stand he stated that he was a co-founder of the “Body Farm”, or as it is officially known as the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility.With all of the attention being paid to the fact that Judge Belvin Perry admonished defense council Jose Baez for his intentional effort in going against the court’s order on discovery, was there something missed with regards to this defense expert witness’s vitae? Obviously Mr. Rodriguez has an extensive history in forensic anthropology, but  did he really co-found the Body Farm?

Upon a cursory review, the only reference of William Rodriguez as a co-founder of the Body Farm was in a Wiki. Please tell me that Jose Baez and his master defense team sleuths did not use a Wiki as the Gospel? This would be as big a blunder as jumping to conclusions that Vasco Thompson  received calls from George Anthony, even though he ex-con never had the telephone number in question until 2009.

Defense expert witness testimony on direct from Jose Baez, June 19, 2011: (Watch VIDEO HERE on exact comments)

Defense Attorney Jose Baez: Are you a Co-Founder of the Anthropological Facility at the Univ of TN – also known as the Body Farm?
William Rodriguez:  Yes I am
::snipping2::

Thnaks TurboThink and Klaas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 19, 2011, 05:46:53 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Turbo
- take a look  ::MonkeyCool::


Below is where I think Rodriguez came in.  Yesterday, he testified 'HE BUILT FENCES & POURED CONCRETE'.  So yep, he was a co-scoundrel founder.  Then he said he worked in Shreveport for 3 years..and therefore was familiar with 'tropical' settings.  I am from NO...and we refer to Shreveport as 'up north'.  I haven't been able to 'find' much about this jerk.  Did he call the Def. & volunteer for this?  What rock did he crawl out from under?

 ::snipping2::  from Klaas's link.
In the early 1980s, Bass began building his facility with a small group of students.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 19, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Turbo:

Do you know, or can you find out, what "year" the fence was put up?

Do you know, or can you find out, "if" Dr. Rod was working at the body farm when the fence was installed?

If he lied  about being a co-founder, he "could" be lying about putting up a fence.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 05:52:46 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Turbo
- take a look  ::MonkeyCool::


Below is where I think Rodriguez came in.  Yesterday, he testified 'HE BUILT FENCES & POURED CONCRETE'.  So yep, he was a co-scoundrel founder.  Then he said he worked in Shreveport for 3 years..and therefore was familiar with 'tropical' settings.  I am from NO...and we refer to Shreveport as 'up north'.  I haven't been able to 'find' much about this jerk.  Did he call the Def. & volunteer for this?  What rock did he crawl out from under?

 ::snipping2::  from Klaas's link.
In the early 1980s, Bass began building his facility with a small group of students.
 ::snipping2::

He was the coroner or me...something like that. I think he started in 85? I'm trying to remember what I read. Lemme look real quick... I think he held that position for a few years?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 05:54:05 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

WOW~Great job finding that. I listened to David Smith the other night, and he stated the same thing, Susan never game any indication she was anything more than a loving and great mother....until a man came into the picture that didn't want kids, she wanted him and to have a good time so the in her mind instead of divorce, letting David have the kids she did the unthinkable. Pure evil around us, and we rarely know until it's too late and I know this from my own experience with my son's father, ppl still can't believe what he did, but my son nor I will ever forget.....I still track that weasel and he is now in Delray Beach, FL working on the beach, so anyone that lives near there, stay away from the Atlantic Avenue crossover unless you want to come into contac with another sociopath and FTLOG anyone with kids stay away from that part of the beach.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 19, 2011, 05:59:40 PM
Looks like when Arpad Vass was first added to Wiki someone put he was "Known For"  Forensic Chemistry.  That error was corrected on June 6, 2011 by someone with the IP 64.79.101.174, which is coming up as a United Kingdom IP for me.  It was changed to Forensic Science.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arpad_Vass&diff=432885619&oldid=432885437

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2713/5850475386_82e49f1278_o.jpg)

Klaas,

Correct me if I'm wrong....does this reflect that a change was made to Vass's wiki to include "biochemist" THIS month???



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: joesamas mama on June 19, 2011, 06:01:18 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced

http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced The night before, court documents show, Megan Hogg had argued with her mother about the children. Hogg later told officers that she had been upset because her mother had threatened to kick her out of the house and to get physical custody of the children.



  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG, that last post about the fight with the mother and taking the children away just gave me the willies. Sounds just like what happened with poor Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 06:06:12 PM
Thank you Klaas, but does it show any other corrections or additions? I'm wondering when the chemist info was added.

Whoever first set up the Wiki on Vass added the Forensic Chemist as the "known as".  I don't know who initially added it to Wiki but I assure you it was not Arpad Vass.   ::MonkeyCool::  I believe it was a simple error. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: loca on June 19, 2011, 06:08:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9_Z86GHLo&NR=1
dr spits controversial and again uses hanky


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
Holy shitake! I just found a cached site that lists expert witnesses. It's a long read but seriously interesting. An expert can make up to $7000 an hour being consulted on court cases & taking the stand. This site, if you scroll down, lists over 600 expert witnesses. They are entered into data bases. Several well known names are on this list. Just scroll down...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:u0lrH6jLr54J:orp-india.com/blog/



And if you remember PS trial #1, IIRC some of the experts had billed $50,000 and up....I had account (someone who we ran their investment a/c whom I talked to often) , an expert in wound ballistics who I called after I learned from AJ, that Lana had no soot on either of her hands.....anyway we got into a long discussion about paid experts, and he told me most of the names we hear most often, Baden, DiMaio, Lee, Spitz, Wecht were a disgrace to his profession and would basically say anything for money....I could find his email and post it and redact his name, although some of the info was over the phone. Again, you reap what you sow and God forbid I was ever on a jury when one of these testified, it would take everything in me not to share with the other jurors what I dug up on all of them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 06:10:35 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

WOW~Great job finding that. I listened to David Smith the other night, and he stated the same thing, Susan never game any indication she was anything more than a loving and great mother....until a man came into the picture that didn't want kids, she wanted him and to have a good time so the in her mind instead of divorce, letting David have the kids she did the unthinkable. Pure evil around us, and we rarely know until it's too late and I know this from my own experience with my son's father, ppl still can't believe what he did, but my son nor I will ever forget.....I still track that weasel and he is now in Delray Beach, FL working on the beach, so anyone that lives near there, stay away from the Atlantic Avenue crossover unless you want to come into contac with another sociopath and FTLOG anyone with kids stay away from that part of the beach.


I saw him too im ! People call these women sick who kill their children....they are just self-centered women who think only of themselves. They put what they want and need above all else. The day I became a mother was the end of my ever coming first...it was always my child and what was best for my child that came first ...shoot, he is 19 yrs old and he still comes first lol
I am so sosrry that you and your son went through your nightmare, but glad that you are so much better off now!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 06:10:40 PM
Puzzler no, it WAS Biochemist and was changed from biochemist to research scientist on June 6, 2011.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 06:12:19 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



Hmm, interesting, another mother who seemed to be loving and gave no clue she was murdorous.

Friends and relatives said Hogg, who worked for AT & T, was an adoring and gentle single mother who gave no hint she was depressed or unhappy.
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985


She got 25 yrs to life on a plea deal....
http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced

http://articles.sfgate.com/1999-09-25/news/17699298_1_greg-hogg-medication-sentenced The night before, court documents show, Megan Hogg had argued with her mother about the children. Hogg later told officers that she had been upset because her mother had threatened to kick her out of the house and to get physical custody of the children.



  ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyShocked:: OMG, that last post about the fight with the mother and taking the children away just gave me the willies. Sounds just like what happened with poor Caylee.


Well... monkey shocked was what I was too the more I read it....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 06:14:34 PM
Holy shitake! I just found a cached site that lists expert witnesses. It's a long read but seriously interesting. An expert can make up to $7000 an hour being consulted on court cases & taking the stand. This site, if you scroll down, lists over 600 expert witnesses. They are entered into data bases. Several well known names are on this list. Just scroll down...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:u0lrH6jLr54J:orp-india.com/blog/



And if you remember PS trial #1, IIRC some of the experts had billed $50,000 and up....I had account (someone who we ran their investment a/c whom I talked to often) , an expert in wound ballistics who I called after I learned from AJ, that Lana had no soot on either of her hands.....anyway we got into a long discussion about paid experts, and he told me most of the names we hear most often, Baden, DiMaio, Lee, Spitz, Wecht were a disgrace to his profession and would basically say anything for money....I could find his email and post it and redact his name, although some of the info was over the phone. Again, you reap what you sow and God forbid I was ever on a jury when one of these testified, it would take everything in me not to share with the other jurors what I dug up on all of them.


It is disgusting , isn't it? I found myself hoping yesterday that someone on that jury remembered Dr. Spitz from one of the previous cases he was a part of and filled the rest in....Shame on these people.....all I can say is Karma baby...its a bitch!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 06:16:55 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.



 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 06:18:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO9_Z86GHLo&NR=1
dr spits controversial and again uses hanky

Imagine that .... his finding was different from that of the coronor....
what would he do without that hanky????? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 19, 2011, 06:18:49 PM
Puzzler no, it WAS Biochemist and was changed from biochemist to research scientist on June 6, 2011.

Okay, thanks.

You and Turbo have done very some good research today!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 06:19:42 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Turbo
- take a look  ::MonkeyCool::


Below is where I think Rodriguez came in.  Yesterday, he testified 'HE BUILT FENCES & POURED CONCRETE'.  So yep, he was a co-scoundrel founder.  Then he said he worked in Shreveport for 3 years..and therefore was familiar with 'tropical' settings.  I am from NO...and we refer to Shreveport as 'up north'.  I haven't been able to 'find' much about this jerk.  Did he call the Def. & volunteer for this?  What rock did he crawl out from under?

 ::snipping2::  from Klaas's link.
In the early 1980s, Bass began building his facility with a small group of students.
 ::snipping2::

He was the coroner or me...something like that. I think he started in 85? I'm trying to remember what I read. Lemme look real quick... I think he held that position for a few years?

Here's this info from his curriculum vitae supplied...you have to scroll to the bottom to get to his. He has extensive education & awards.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html

Also, I see where Dr. William Bass worked for the govt, Army & Dept of Defense as a consultant during some of the same years Dr. William Rodriguez has been with them. Here's Dr. Bass' curriculum vitae:
http://web.utk.edu/~anthrop/faculty/cv/Bass.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 06:25:17 PM
Were these August, 2008 words of Baden pertaining to the 'Body Farm' techniques prior to the his wife's Baez connection following the December, 2008 discovery of Caylee's remains?

Janet

+++++


Caylee Search: Psychics, Jail Visits Refused, 'Body Farm' Techniques
Tuesday, August 12, 2008


VAN SUSTEREN: .... Joining us live is forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden. Dr. Baden, can they take an air sample from the trunk and determine whether or not there had been a body decomposing in that truck?

DR. MICHAEL BADEN, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Yes, because after we die and the bacteria proliferate in our body and start breaking down our muscles and our fat and organs, vapors, gases, are formed with beautiful names like cadaverine (ph) and putrescine (ph) that are a particular structure that are easily picked up in the toxicology lab if they're collected from the area, the air that the body was in. And if there was a dead body in the trunk of the car and they collected the air sample, they should be able to find those chemicals.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html




Janet, thank you for finding that article.  I knew I heard Baden early on saying a lot of things....then what changed? (We know what)  BTW...you are a walking encyclopedia ..don't know how you do it.

I used your link and sent this to Vinnie Politan.   Hope you approve.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

Vinnie...the next time Linda Kenny-Baden comes on your show sporting her newest face lift, please reference & read this article.  Wonder what happened?  Did the fame & money tarnish her & her husband???  Vinnie, we are not stupid bloggers...we have read all of the discovery...tapes, depositions, etc..  But, we are really sick of CNN, HLN, etc. having these people coming on the shows insulting our intelligence with their very obvious lies.  Let's be fair to this child who had a right to live.  Let not let this child's death be for no reason....WE NEED TO MAKE THE LAWS STIFFER FOR PARENTS WHO MURDER THEIR CHILDREN ...NOT GIVE THEM A PASS.   It should be a mandatory LWOP.....not a couple of years & call it fancy words like FILICIDE!!!!   These are murderers to the worst degree.  Thank you for what you are doing for Caylee & hug your children for all of us who appreciate your sincerity when you remind parents to do the same.  

BluesyGram

These paid "expert" defence witnesses need to be challenged/exposed when it is obvious that their testimony has everything to do with distracting from the truth ... everything to do with preventing justice from prevailing.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: BluesyGram on June 19, 2011, 06:30:36 PM
Bug Boy's experiment rendered the car useless as it could never be cleaned up enough.
The conditions were not the same as he didn't triple bag the pig or wrap it in a blanket.
Plus the climate differences and the different type of vehicle.
With all his education, why was this the best he could do ?
It was an attempt at a hoax. After all of his jibber jabber and the drawing of little pictures and the maggots, ugh , that was what I took away from his entire testimony.   
Poor bug boy, how is he going to live that one down ?

ITA KatGram  JibberJabber...oh that describes all of the dumbfense's witnesses' testimony so far.  What he must have been thinking was that he was going up against 'lay' people who didn't know any better...what he didn't know was that Ashton wasn't a 'lay'. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 06:33:08 PM
This is a redacted version of the email I exchanged with the expert I spoke to and email about these "expert" witnesses:


Hi  XXXXX

First, I note with  interest that you sent your message to my previous email address at XXXXXX and it was forwarded to my current address.  Was surprised, but happy, to see that happen.
 
 
 
You mentioned the Vince Foster case. In my view, the evidence shows this was NOT a suicide. If one commits suicide with a revolver, it is common to have soot deposits on the web between the thumb and index finger on ONE hand (the hand that held the gun in the  mouth -- the thumb and index finger encircling the distal end of the cylinder -- and getting the soot from the ring of gasses that leaks out between the barrel and clinder). The other hand fires the gun (with fingers around the back of the grip and trigger pulled by the thumb) has no way to pick up soot. The autopsy of Vince Foster had soot on the thumb-index finger web/palm area of BOTH hands -- which could have happened if he was using both hands trying to prevent somebody from sticking a gun barrel in his mouth -- but certainly NOT if he were sticking the gun in his mouth himself. Christopher Ruddy's book "The Strange Death of Vincent Foster -- An Investigation" (Free Press -- a Division of Simon Schuster - 1997) you will find a similar conclusion.
 
I have largely retired from testifying in cases: it just got too busy and the hectic schedule was a pain. Also, travel became far less fun after 9/11.
 
In my practice of forensic wound ballistics,  I found profoundly disturbing the high percentage of " respected  experts" who  will testify to just about anything the lawyer who hired them wishes.  
 
Sincerely,

Dr. #######


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 06:33:28 PM
Did Caylee have health insurance?  I know they say she was never sick but she had to go to the dr. for vaccinations. Alot of them too.  I am over protective of my 2 year old and believe me I am Mrs. Wet Ones.  She's been sick plenty!

If not did she have a medical card?  How did Casey pay for it and how did she keep it from her parents if she didn't.  If she said she didn't have benefits through work I can't believe they would "believe" that an event planning job at Universal Studios did not provide health insurance.

Just wondering



July 4th: Cindy Anthony's posting on Casey Anthony's MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught


“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
I don't see why this was not brought up in court?

<snipped by Tamikosmom>



Considering Cindy acknowledged the words posted on Casey's Myspace was her submission ... I could not understand why it was not allowed to be submitted as evidence.

I wish the jury had been privy to Cindy's heartfelt comment.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 06:41:19 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::

CRAP......I found another one that killer her child by duct tape:
 ::snipping2::


A look at the rolls of women who are currently on death row, and the crimes that put them there, shows that women who kill their children are indeed not as rare as we would like to believe. Of the 49 women on death row, 11 killed children:

 ::snipping2::

Kenisha Berry at age 20, covered her 4-day-old son with duct tape resulting in his death.


 ::snipping2::
http://crime.about.com/od/female_offenders/a/mother_killers.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 06:52:37 PM
More similarities with Casey and her behavoir and the other woman/evil bitch I just posted about:
 ::snipping2::
Detective Debbie Beavers with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department testified that while she was investigating another case, Kenisha Berry took her to a number of locations,  ::MonkeyEek::  including the dumpster where 'Baby Hope' was found.

 ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::
Dr. Tommy Brown also tesified. He's a pathologist who did the autopsy on 'Baby Hope.' He testified he believes 'Baby Hope' was alive when he was placed in the garbage bag   ::MonkeyEek:: because milk was found in his stomach.
 ::snipping2::

Redeaux said she asked Berry where she got the duct tape, and testified Berry told her "it was laying around the house."
 ::snipping2::

Redeaux testified Berry told her she "had the baby in the trunk of the car with the dirty clothes and drove him to the dumpster
::snipping2::
 ::MonkeyEek::




http://www.kfdm.com/news/berry-4666-baby-told.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 06:53:10 PM
It don't say their good ,just famous;
http://mastersinforensicscience.com/2010/top-10-most-famous-forensic-scientists-of-all-time/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 06:53:36 PM
::MonkeyEek::

CRAP......I found another one that killer her child by duct tape:
 ::snipping2::


A look at the rolls of women who are currently on death row, and the crimes that put them there, shows that women who kill their children are indeed not as rare as we would like to believe. Of the 49 women on death row, 11 killed children:

 ::snipping2::

Kenisha Berry at age 20, covered her 4-day-old son with duct tape resulting in his death.


 ::snipping2::
http://crime.about.com/od/female_offenders/a/mother_killers.htm


Holy crap!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 06:55:27 PM
More similarities with Casey and her behavoir and the other woman/evil bitch I just posted about:
 ::snipping2::
Detective Debbie Beavers with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department testified that while she was investigating another case, Kenisha Berry took her to a number of locations,  ::MonkeyEek::  including the dumpster where 'Baby Hope' was found.

 ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::
Dr. Tommy Brown also tesified. He's a pathologist who did the autopsy on 'Baby Hope.' He testified he believes 'Baby Hope' was alive when he was placed in the garbage bag   ::MonkeyEek:: because milk was found in his stomach.
 ::snipping2::

Redeaux said she asked Berry where she got the duct tape, and testified Berry told her "it was laying around the house."
 ::snipping2::

Redeaux testified Berry told her she "had the baby in the trunk of the car with the dirty clothes and drove him to the dumpster
::snipping2::
 ::MonkeyEek::




http://www.kfdm.com/news/berry-4666-baby-told.html


WOW! Lots of similarities there ...wonder if Casey had researched this, or if she thought it was a novel idea?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 07:01:36 PM
OK, I am rewatching Dr Rod's testimony and I am getting the feeling that he was bounced from the Body Farm.....he sees himself as a founder.. building it by pouring concrete and putting up fences, writing the first paper.. so why did he leave? bitter? unrecognized? ego driven and felt he was underecognized?

I also pointed out to Ashton that originally there were NO FENCES and those were only built after some of the UT students "got wind" (a little pun there) of what they were doing and started going to see the bodies. LOL There also used to be an animal research facility on that back road but it has been torn down since.

I didn't note the link and I looked at so many I'm not sure I could find it again, but iirc I read that there were some protests from locals in the early days as well BEFORE the fences went up, and that the fences seemed to resolve that problem.  Do you remember anything about that?

Yeah, it was some group who thought it very morbid and undignified for bodies to be laid out in a field. It was not college students that I remember, but they even tried to get a bill passed in legislature but LE interceded and got it stopped because it was so beneficial to them.

Thanks Turbo!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 07:02:35 PM
More similarities with Casey and her behavoir and the other woman/evil bitch I just posted about:
 ::snipping2::
Detective Debbie Beavers with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department testified that while she was investigating another case, Kenisha Berry took her to a number of locations,  ::MonkeyEek::  including the dumpster where 'Baby Hope' was found.

 ::snipping2::

 ::snipping2::
Dr. Tommy Brown also tesified. He's a pathologist who did the autopsy on 'Baby Hope.' He testified he believes 'Baby Hope' was alive when he was placed in the garbage bag   ::MonkeyEek:: because milk was found in his stomach.
 ::snipping2::

Redeaux said she asked Berry where she got the duct tape, and testified Berry told her "it was laying around the house."
 ::snipping2::

Redeaux testified Berry told her she "had the baby in the trunk of the car with the dirty clothes and drove him to the dumpster
::snipping2::
 ::MonkeyEek::




http://www.kfdm.com/news/berry-4666-baby-told.html


WOW! Lots of similarities there ...wonder if Casey had researched this, or if she thought it was a novel idea?

Possibly, the baby was found almost right away but the case wasn't solved for 5+ yrs....so, had they not found the baby so early and kept the evidence which had her fingerprints on the tape, she very likely would have gotten away with this one...... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 07:04:08 PM
Holy shitake! I just found a cached site that lists expert witnesses. It's a long read but seriously interesting. An expert can make up to $7000 an hour being consulted on court cases & taking the stand. This site, if you scroll down, lists over 600 expert witnesses. They are entered into data bases. Several well known names are on this list. Just scroll down...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:u0lrH6jLr54J:orp-india.com/blog/


I scroll through the list and notice it is the oddest way to put names in order I have ever seen. Alphabetical but starting with title if they have one (Nurse Zenaida would be listed under N) No title listed by first name. Anyone ever see that before?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
And yet another one.....I wonder how many cases are out there like these, I just did a quick google and found these in 10 minutes  ::MonkeyShocked::


 ::snipping2::

The three boys were suffocated with duct tape. Williams was the father of two of the boys.

 ::snipping2::


http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/60856182.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 07:21:12 PM
And yet another one.....I wonder how many cases are out there like these, I just did a quick google and found these in 10 minutes  ::MonkeyShocked::


 ::snipping2::

The three boys were suffocated with duct tape. Williams was the father of two of the boys.

 ::snipping2::


http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/60856182.html


No DNA on the duck tape either....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 19, 2011, 07:24:45 PM
Holy shitake! I just found a cached site that lists expert witnesses. It's a long read but seriously interesting. An expert can make up to $7000 an hour being consulted on court cases & taking the stand. This site, if you scroll down, lists over 600 expert witnesses. They are entered into data bases. Several well known names are on this list. Just scroll down...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:u0lrH6jLr54J:orp-india.com/blog/


I scroll through the list and notice it is the oddest way to put names in order I have ever seen. Alphabetical but starting with title if they have one (Nurse Zenaida would be listed under N) No title listed by first name. Anyone ever see that before?

Sounds like my iphone 4 ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 07:30:50 PM
Thank you Klaas, but does it show any other corrections or additions? I'm wondering when the chemist info was added.

Whoever first set up the Wiki on Vass added the Forensic Chemist as the "known as".  I don't know who initially added it to Wiki but I assure you it was not Arpad Vass.   ::MonkeyCool::  I believe it was a simple error. 

Klaas, check it out... Here's the correction stats on the Vass wiki page. I'm on my iPhone so I'm
not cropping pics to save, but here's the link & I personally think you may find it interesting:
(The whole page is interesting but the most info is at the bottom. It informs the ip or user I'd that did each addition or edit, the date, etc. Funny how many dates are 2008 & 2011! Betcha anything somebody pro defense is the one that gave erroneous info just to throw him off when he's being questioned!
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/articleinfo/index.php?article=Arpad_Vass&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 07:48:05 PM
Turbo:

Do you know, or can you find out, what "year" the fence was put up?

Do you know, or can you find out, "if" Dr. Rod was working at the body farm when the fence was installed?

If he lied  about being a co-founder, he "could" be lying about putting up a fence.



I have some calls out now. I will find out. I am thinking about 83 or 84 but I could be off a year or so. I will try to research the bill that they tried to pass to stop the body farm altogether because that was the year it was put up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Monkey King on June 19, 2011, 07:48:13 PM
The prosecution flawlessly illustrated their case, one step at a time, with each witness flowing into the next.

Now, comes the defense.
 
Baez, who, along with everyone else, has waited 3 years for this day, charges out of the starting gate with a shocking opening statement. 

I have yet to see any of the allegations from that opening statement being addressed.

Instead, the defense team has given us the "Three Bear's" witnesses , meaning they are either too young, too old, too stupid, too full of themselves.  None of their witnesses have been "just right". ::teddybear::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
Thank you Klaas, but does it show any other corrections or additions? I'm wondering when the chemist info was added.

Whoever first set up the Wiki on Vass added the Forensic Chemist as the "known as".  I don't know who initially added it to Wiki but I assure you it was not Arpad Vass.   ::MonkeyCool::  I believe it was a simple error. 

Klaas, check it out... Here's the correction stats on the Vass wiki page. I'm on my iPhone so I'm
not cropping pics to save, but here's the link & I personally think you may find it interesting:
(The whole page is interesting but the most info is at the bottom. It informs the ip or user I'd that did each addition or edit, the date, etc. Funny how many dates are 2008 & 2011! Betcha anything somebody pro defense is the one that gave erroneous info just to throw him off when he's being questioned!
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/articleinfo/index.php?article=Arpad_Vass&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia

Thanks, I like this stats page.  It's only showing the top 50 edits IPs though


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 07:52:27 PM
Thank you Klaas, but does it show any other corrections or additions? I'm wondering when the chemist info was added.

Whoever first set up the Wiki on Vass added the Forensic Chemist as the "known as".  I don't know who initially added it to Wiki but I assure you it was not Arpad Vass.   ::MonkeyCool::  I believe it was a simple error. 

Klaas, check it out... Here's the correction stats on the Vass wiki page. I'm on my iPhone so I'm
not cropping pics to save, but here's the link & I personally think you may find it interesting:
(The whole page is interesting but the most info is at the bottom. It informs the ip or user I'd that did each addition or edit, the date, etc. Funny how many dates are 2008 & 2011! Betcha anything somebody pro defense is the one that gave erroneous info just to throw him off when he's being questioned!
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/articleinfo/index.php?article=Arpad_Vass&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia

OMG Klaas, look at this shit! Who was screwing with Vass editing the wiki? His page was started on July 5, 2008 & he was listed as an ANTHROPOLOGIST! I hope we can figure out the physical addresses of the ips that supplied erroneous info. You can even see where an idiot put something ignorant on there referencing hamburger & chicken. I wanna dot somebody's eye right about now!   

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arpad_Vass&dir=prev&action=history


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 07:56:40 PM
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Is William C. Rodriguez III Really a Co-Founder of the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility, Better Known as “The Body Farm”? I though Dr. Bass Founded It!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/06/19/casey-anthony-murder-trial-is-william-c-rodriguez-iii-really-a-co-founder-of-the-university-of-tennessee-anthropological-research-facility-better-known-as-the-body-farm-i-though-dr-bass-found/

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Things That Make You Go Hmm …

Yesterday, during the tumultuous morning  of the Casey Anthony murder trial when defense expert witness, William C. Rodriguez, was on the witness stand he stated that he was a co-founder of the “Body Farm”, or as it is officially known as the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility.With all of the attention being paid to the fact that Judge Belvin Perry admonished defense council Jose Baez for his intentional effort in going against the court’s order on discovery, was there something missed with regards to this defense expert witness’s vitae? Obviously Mr. Rodriguez has an extensive history in forensic anthropology, but  did he really co-found the Body Farm?

Upon a cursory review, the only reference of William Rodriguez as a co-founder of the Body Farm was in a Wiki. Please tell me that Jose Baez and his master defense team sleuths did not use a Wiki as the Gospel? This would be as big a blunder as jumping to conclusions that Vasco Thompson  received calls from George Anthony, even though he ex-con never had the telephone number in question until 2009.

Defense expert witness testimony on direct from Jose Baez, June 19, 2011: (Watch VIDEO HERE on exact comments)

Defense Attorney Jose Baez: Are you a Co-Founder of the Anthropological Facility at the Univ of TN – also known as the Body Farm?
William Rodriguez:  Yes I am
::snipping2::

Thanks TurboThink and Klaas

Great post Red!   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2011, 08:01:24 PM
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Is William C. Rodriguez III Really a Co-Founder of the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility, Better Known as “The Body Farm”? I though Dr. Bass Founded It!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/06/19/casey-anthony-murder-trial-is-william-c-rodriguez-iii-really-a-co-founder-of-the-university-of-tennessee-anthropological-research-facility-better-known-as-the-body-farm-i-though-dr-bass-found/

Quote
Things That Make You Go Hmm …

Yesterday, during the tumultuous morning  of the Casey Anthony murder trial when defense expert witness, William C. Rodriguez, was on the witness stand he stated that he was a co-founder of the “Body Farm”, or as it is officially known as the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility.With all of the attention being paid to the fact that Judge Belvin Perry admonished defense council Jose Baez for his intentional effort in going against the court’s order on discovery, was there something missed with regards to this defense expert witness’s vitae? Obviously Mr. Rodriguez has an extensive history in forensic anthropology, but  did he really co-found the Body Farm?

Upon a cursory review, the only reference of William Rodriguez as a co-founder of the Body Farm was in a Wiki. Please tell me that Jose Baez and his master defense team sleuths did not use a Wiki as the Gospel? This would be as big a blunder as jumping to conclusions that Vasco Thompson  received calls from George Anthony, even though he ex-con never had the telephone number in question until 2009.

Defense expert witness testimony on direct from Jose Baez, June 19, 2011: (Watch VIDEO HERE on exact comments)

Defense Attorney Jose Baez: Are you a Co-Founder of the Anthropological Facility at the Univ of TN – also known as the Body Farm?
William Rodriguez:  Yes I am
::snipping2::

Thanks TurboThink and Klaas

Great post Red!   ::MonkeyCool::



ITA!  Great post!  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Blumonkey on June 19, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
Bug Boy's experiment rendered the car useless as it could never be cleaned up enough.
The conditions were not the same as he didn't triple bag the pig or wrap it in a blanket.
Plus the climate differences and the different type of vehicle.
With all his education, why was this the best he could do ?
It was an attempt at a hoax. After all of his jibber jabber and the drawing of little pictures and the maggots, ugh , that was what I took away from his entire testimony.   
Poor bug boy, how is he going to live that one down ?
Exactly ! Bug Boy's "experiment" contained all the elements that the defense was so critical of with Dr. Vass in his testimony. Where was the concern for quality controls, etc. The irony is rich on so many levels ! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 08:03:39 PM
Am I reading it right that user "soccybrarian" made 7 changes to the article in under 6 hours ? http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/articleinfo/index.php?article=Arpad_Vass&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia
 also when I google soccybrarian I get this page with an odd pole about Dr. Vass;
http://vassphd.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 08:07:11 PM
Thank you Klaas, but does it show any other corrections or additions? I'm wondering when the chemist info was added.

Whoever first set up the Wiki on Vass added the Forensic Chemist as the "known as".  I don't know who initially added it to Wiki but I assure you it was not Arpad Vass.   ::MonkeyCool::  I believe it was a simple error. 

Klaas, check it out... Here's the correction stats on the Vass wiki page. I'm on my iPhone so I'm
not cropping pics to save, but here's the link & I personally think you may find it interesting:
(The whole page is interesting but the most info is at the bottom. It informs the ip or user I'd that did each addition or edit, the date, etc. Funny how many dates are 2008 & 2011! Betcha anything somebody pro defense is the one that gave erroneous info just to throw him off when he's being questioned!
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/articleinfo/index.php?article=Arpad_Vass&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia

OMG Klaas, look at this shit! Who was screwing with Vass editing the wiki? His page was started on July 5, 2008 & he was listed as an ANTHROPOLOGIST! I hope we can figure out the physical addresses of the ips that supplied erroneous info. You can even see where an idiot put something ignorant on there referencing hamburger & chicken. I wanna dot somebody's eye right about now!   

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arpad_Vass&dir=prev&action=history

Titch
- I'm probably going to state this too simplistically, but Wiki can be edited by anyone.  Volunteers will add and edit Wiki entries.  The Vass wiki page was created in 2008 and as you can see with errors and many edits thru the years.  Most of the edits likely have zero to do with this case. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 08:11:43 PM
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Is William C. Rodriguez III Really a Co-Founder of the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility, Better Known as “The Body Farm”? I though Dr. Bass Founded It!

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/06/19/casey-anthony-murder-trial-is-william-c-rodriguez-iii-really-a-co-founder-of-the-university-of-tennessee-anthropological-research-facility-better-known-as-the-body-farm-i-though-dr-bass-found/

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Things That Make You Go Hmm …

Yesterday, during the tumultuous morning  of the Casey Anthony murder trial when defense expert witness, William C. Rodriguez, was on the witness stand he stated that he was a co-founder of the “Body Farm”, or as it is officially known as the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility.With all of the attention being paid to the fact that Judge Belvin Perry admonished defense council Jose Baez for his intentional effort in going against the court’s order on discovery, was there something missed with regards to this defense expert witness’s vitae? Obviously Mr. Rodriguez has an extensive history in forensic anthropology, but  did he really co-found the Body Farm?

Upon a cursory review, the only reference of William Rodriguez as a co-founder of the Body Farm was in a Wiki. Please tell me that Jose Baez and his master defense team sleuths did not use a Wiki as the Gospel? This would be as big a blunder as jumping to conclusions that Vasco Thompson  received calls from George Anthony, even though he ex-con never had the telephone number in question until 2009.

Defense expert witness testimony on direct from Jose Baez, June 19, 2011: (Watch VIDEO HERE on exact comments)

Defense Attorney Jose Baez: Are you a Co-Founder of the Anthropological Facility at the Univ of TN – also known as the Body Farm?
William Rodriguez:  Yes I am
::snipping2::

Thnaks TurboThink and Klaas

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 08:14:01 PM
Does "soccybrarian" mean something I don't know about ? Because another google listing is this page critical of Dr Vass;Smells like a smear campaign.
 http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 08:14:05 PM
Klaas, I agree with you about wiki but why would somebody edit erroneous info accidentally over & over again? Did you see where somebody had a previous edit on Vass' page that said something about an Anthony case opinion?

Like, look at this one for the Body Farm... You can even see where edits were reported as violations. There are alot from this year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&limit=100&action=history


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: yuknomenot on June 19, 2011, 08:26:17 PM
Below is the IP info from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arpad_Vass&dir=prev&action=history (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arpad_Vass&dir=prev&action=history) 

63.251.31.10  Astoria NY (VNU)
97.104.160.49 Road Runner Deltona FL
96.57.103.74  Cedar Grove, NJ (JL Shapi RO Associates)
64.79.101.74 London, GB (ZanyHost)
216.96.89.120 Kenton, OH (Windstream Communications, Inc)
98.211.228.28 Comcast Cable Miami FL
207.255.96.155 Atlantic Broadband Uniontown PA
68.200.180.97 Road Runner Auburndale FL
216.61.218.161 Conway AR (The Computer Works of Arkansas)
216.183.191.131 Contiental Broadband Pennsylvania Cambridge MA
76.247.172.160 SBC Internet Services Stockton CA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 08:30:51 PM
Klaas, I agree with you about wiki but why would somebody edit erroneous info accidentally over & over again? Did you see where somebody had a previous edit on Vass' page that said something about an Anthony case opinion?

Like, look at this one for the Body Farm... You can even see where edits were reported as violations. There are alot from this year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&limit=100&action=history

OH there is absolutely some funny stuff going on and in this case likely funny stuff sanctioned by the defense team.  That is sortof my point.  Anyone can edit Wiki and unless someone checks it out, that edit might stay and appear to be legit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 08:44:57 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 08:52:03 PM
Klaas, I agree with you about wiki but why would somebody edit erroneous info accidentally over & over again? Did you see where somebody had a previous edit on Vass' page that said something about an Anthony case opinion?

Like, look at this one for the Body Farm... You can even see where edits were reported as violations. There are alot from this year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&limit=100&action=history

OH there is absolutely some funny stuff going on and in this case likely funny stuff sanctioned by the defense team.  That is sortof my point.  Anyone can edit Wiki and unless someone checks it out, that edit might stay and appear to be legit.

Check this out he was added.............

Latest revision as of 09:24, 19 May 2011

The University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility, better known as the Body Farm and sometimes seen as the Forensic Anthropology Facility,[1] was started in late 1971 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez as a facility for study of the decomposition of human remains. It is located a few miles from downtown Knoxville, Tennessee, USA, behind the University of Tennessee Medical Center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&action=historysubmit&diff=429854147&oldid=404339332


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 08:55:53 PM
Check it now............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
What would be really funny would be if bozo starts reading it from WIKI like he did on Vass and Ashton says "that is not what it says here on WIKI. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cookie on June 19, 2011, 08:59:14 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.

Turbs...I am behind...what is this email about? thank you very kindly...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 09:03:08 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.

Turbs...I am behind...what is this email about? thank you very kindly...

Dr Rodriguez claimed on the stand that he was the co-founder of the "Body Farm" at the University of Tennessee with Dr. Bill Bass. It was a lie. He did not even have his undergraduate work completed and had not graduated when Dr. Bass started the Body farm. He did not get is BA until 1981.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: cookie on June 19, 2011, 09:09:49 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.

Turbs...I am behind...what is this email about? thank you very kindly...

Dr Rodriguez claimed on the stand that he was the co-founder of the "Body Farm" at the University of Tennessee with Dr. Bill Bass. It was a lie. He did not even have his undergraduate work completed and had not graduated when Dr. Bass started the Body farm. He did not get is BA until 1981.

thanks Turbs...so do someone email the info to Jeff? is that what the email is about?
good job whoever did that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 09:09:52 PM
Hi Monkey friends!!  ::MonkeyDance::
I just got back from bringing mom and dad fathers day dinner and I want to thank all of you from the bottom of my heart for taking my hinky about Dr Rod seriously. You have all done AMAZING research, which is so out of my scope  ::MonkeyDance::
I pray the DA gets all of this, impeaches his testimony. Take that Rip Torn.. hatip to IM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You are all the BEST!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 09:13:50 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.

Turbs...I am behind...what is this email about? thank you very kindly...

Dr Rodriguez claimed on the stand that he was the co-founder of the "Body Farm" at the University of Tennessee with Dr. Bill Bass. It was a lie. He did not even have his undergraduate work completed and had not graduated when Dr. Bass started the Body farm. He did not get is BA until 1981.

thanks Turbs...so do someone email the info to Jeff? is that what the email is about?
good job whoever did that!

I emailed him with all the information.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 09:25:42 PM
Check it now............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility

Thanks Turbo - please explain to those who may not understand Wiki what you are doing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 09:28:28 PM
Woo Hoo! I found it! Klaas, could you please take a snapshot of this page & post it? Rodriguez was added to the wiki page May of 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

Titch - hate to burst your bubble but I posted it a few pages back.  Yeah, edited May 2009

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5031/5850232856_f04bf85c97_o.jpg)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Cappuccino on June 19, 2011, 09:30:27 PM
Just checking in to see a few of you have been very busy over the weekend, glad you made contact Turbo & great job everyone.

Justice will NOT be denied in Caylee's name, cyas in the morning!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 09:31:27 PM
Just checking in to see a few of you have been very busy over the weekend, glad you made contact Turbo & great job everyone.

Justice will NOT be denied in Caylee's name, cyas in the morning!  ::MonkeyAngel::

Have a great night Capp!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 09:35:42 PM
Tonight when I was at my parents home, my mom was telling me she watched Judge Pirro last night. They were SO into it  ::MonkeyGavel::
They watched Dr Spitz yesterday and thought exactly what we did. They secretly started following the case beginning of last week and think KC is guilty and should get the needle. I was so surprised because my mother likes her happy little shows and my dad never follows this stuff, so our Fathers Day dinner talk was about this case.. who woulda ever thunk it  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 09:36:50 PM
Profile of the one that made that change looks like he just likes to edit stuff. Was he undoing a prior change?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huntster


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 09:37:28 PM
Goodnight Capp.. Follow all of our previous instructions and admonitions!! See ya at 9am!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 09:38:58 PM
Woo Hoo! I found it! Klaas, could you please take a snapshot of this page & post it? Rodriguez was added to the wiki page May of 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094




The user that did the edit on May 31, 2009 also did a couple edits in 2007 on Boston College Eagles' wiki. Here's the user's wiki profile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.243.126.253


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 09:39:19 PM
Profile of the one that made that change looks like he just likes to edit stuff. Was he undoing a prior change?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huntster

I don't think Huntster is the one who made THAT edit.  The edit was made by IP 69.243.126.253 (no name just the IP).  Edit is on the right and what was edited shows up in RED.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 09:41:09 PM
Check it now............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility

Thanks Turbo - please explain to those who may not understand Wiki what you are doing

Dr. Rodriguez had been added to WIKI in what looks like May 2010 as a Co-Founder of the Body Farm with Dr. Bass. Saturday on the stand he testified that he WAS the co-founder and acted like it was his and Dr. Bass' idea.  He was NOT the co-founder and had not even graduated from college at the time it was started. Dr. Bass started it officially with the University of Tennessee in 1980. Rodriguez did not graduate from college until 1981. He did study anthropology in his undergraduate studies, so that is likely how he hooked up with Dr. Bass because he taught almost all of those classes at that time. He testified he poured concrete and put up the fences for it. I find that suspicious also because there were NO FENCES until a few years after it started. They were put up because some students found out about it and made trips there to see the bodies, so the word got out and some in the community were totally opposed to it and tried to get the state Legislature to make a law to stop it. Law enforcement stepped up and made sure the law did not pass because they were getting so much help from Dr. Bass.

I removed him as a Co-Founder because that is an inaccuracy and if he didn't do it to add to his credentials for this trial, then someone did to make him look better than he is. It did not have that until 2010 which is about the time I think he came into this case.

I really don't understand that because he is a highly respected anthropologist (as far as I know, really not much on him) and to do something like that and to lie on the stand makes me think his ego is larger than his brain. It also makes me leery of anything he testifies to because to testify on the stand he was a co-founder there is no telling what else he is going to say. He needs to be discredited early because of this in my opinion so I emailed Jeff Ashton with all the information I know and some references.

It really makes me pissed and also sad to see someone from my Alma mater misrepresent all great accomplishment Dr. Bass has implemented over the years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 09:44:03 PM
Thanks klaas , I've a lot of wikis but never dealt with the edits before. So I was way off base with the soccybrarian thing too? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 09:45:16 PM
Klaas, 1712 you attached the edit from May 13. The correct one is the edit from May 31, 2009. I saw your other attachment regarding the change but I thought it was from June 2011...don't know what I was thinking. But the link I supplied asking for a screencap is for the comparison of 5/31/09 vs the prior.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 09:45:56 PM
"Read" a lot of wikis


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 09:47:26 PM
Klaas, 1712 you attached the edit from May 13. The correct one is the edit from May 31, 2009. I saw your other attachment regarding the change but I thought it was from June 2011...don't know what I was thinking. But the link I supplied asking for a screencap is for the comparison of 5/31/09 vs the prior.  ::MonkeyWink::

The screen cap I just attached is the one I posted earlier in this thread.  Same page as the link you provided.  It's all good!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 09:49:57 PM
Thanks klaas , I've a lot of wikis but never dealt with the edits before. So I was way off base with the soccybrarian thing too?  

Not sure on the Soc.cybrarian.  Looks to me like they are a "normal" wiki editor and not just someone (like a friend of the defense).  My bet is someone intentionally incorrectly editing a wiki entry would want to be anonymous ( IP only) and not registered as a wiki editor with a nick name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 09:50:55 PM
Profile of the one that made that change looks like he just likes to edit stuff. Was he undoing a prior change?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huntster

I don't think Huntster is the one who made THAT edit.  The edit was made by IP 69.243.126.253 (no name just the IP).  Edit is on the right and what was edited shows up in RED.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc-rodrizez.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 09:51:14 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Yep, I'm bonkers...you already supplied it! Thx Klaas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Magnolia on June 19, 2011, 09:52:03 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.

Turbs...I am behind...what is this email about? thank you very kindly...

Dr Rodriguez claimed on the stand that he was the co-founder of the "Body Farm" at the University of Tennessee with Dr. Bill Bass. It was a lie. He did not even have his undergraduate work completed and had not graduated when Dr. Bass started the Body farm. He did not get is BA until 1981.

Bill Rodriguez would have been inmiddle school in 1971. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 09:54:14 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.

Turbs...I am behind...what is this email about? thank you very kindly...

Dr Rodriguez claimed on the stand that he was the co-founder of the "Body Farm" at the University of Tennessee with Dr. Bill Bass. It was a lie. He did not even have his undergraduate work completed and had not graduated when Dr. Bass started the Body farm. He did not get is BA until 1981.

Bill Rodriguez would have been inmiddle school in 1971. ::MonkeyTongue::

Child prodigy  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 09:55:47 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Yep, I'm bonkers...you already supplied it! Thx Klaas!

I said May 2010 but it was 2009 - sorry for that. Somewhere I saw an edit in May of 2010 - but where now I have no idea. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 09:57:14 PM
Klass have you put soccybrarian into google? Only three or four down start giving post related to Vass . Maybe nothing just wondered if you looked.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 09:59:13 PM

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc-rodrizez.jpg)

Here is the info on who made it..........
   
69.243.126.0 - Geo Information
IP Address    69.243.126.0
Host    c-69-243-126-0.hsd1.md.comcast.net
Location    US US, United States
City    Gaithersburg, MD -
Organization    Comcast Cable
ISP    Comcast Cable
AS Number    AS33657 Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.
Latitude    39°16'38" North
Longitude    77°18'34" West
Distance    7903.13 km (4910.78 miles)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 19, 2011, 10:01:49 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.

Turbs...I am behind...what is this email about? thank you very kindly...

Dr Rodriguez claimed on the stand that he was the co-founder of the "Body Farm" at the University of Tennessee with Dr. Bill Bass. It was a lie. He did not even have his undergraduate work completed and had not graduated when Dr. Bass started the Body farm. He did not get is BA until 1981.

Bill Rodriguez would have been in middle school in 1971. ::MonkeyTongue::

Exactly!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 10:02:40 PM
Klass have you put soccybrarian into google? Only three or four down start giving post related to Vass . Maybe nothing just wondered if you looked.

I could be wrong but I think that wordpress blog is linking somehow to wiki


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 10:09:33 PM
Klass have you put soccybrarian into google? Only three or four down start giving post related to Vass . Maybe nothing just wondered if you looked.

I could be wrong but I think that wordpress blog is linking somehow to wiki

You know what, they definitely have an interest in this case.  I'll dig a bit further into this soccybrarian person.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 10:10:45 PM
According to the following ... Bill Rodriguez had a connection to the Body Farm since the earlier in its inception but co-founder ... I don't think so.

Janet

+++++

World of Forensic Science

Body Farm


The Body Farm is more correctly known as the University of Tennessee Forensic Anthropology Research Facility. It was established in 1980 by the pioneering forensic anthropologist William Bass  and is dedicated to the study of the rate of decomposition of the human corpse under various conditions that are relevant to crime investigation. Many hallmark scientific papers have come out of the research at the Body Farm and this new knowledge has been crucial in driving forensic investigation into unsolved deaths.

<snipped>

The facility began as a piece of waste ground close to the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. From 1980, Bass and his team began to prepare the site and, in 1981, received their first body for examination.
 
<snipped>

Researchers who have worked at the Body Farm have begun to contribute information that aids in determining time of death with precision. For example, the role of insects in corpse decomposition has been investigated by Bill Rodriquez. His observations back in the early days of the Body Farm showed that blowflies come to a body within minutes of death and feed on bloody areas, where wounds have been inflicted, or on moist areas like the mouth. After this, they go through their life cycle, feeding on the body, and producing eggs and maggots. This kind of evidence can be used in a forensic investigation, but had not been much researched before the advent of the Body Farm. A paper on this work published by Rodriguez in the Journal of Forensic Sciences in 1982, went on to become one of the most cited articles in the field.

<snipped>

http://www.enotes.com/forensic-science/body-farm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: yuknomenot on June 19, 2011, 10:11:06 PM
Profile of the one that made that change looks like he just likes to edit stuff. Was he undoing a prior change?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huntster

I don't think Huntster is the one who made THAT edit.  The edit was made by IP 69.243.126.253 (no name just the IP).  Edit is on the right and what was edited shows up in RED.

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc-rodrizez.jpg)
Interesting that the 74.128.202.164 IP goes back to Louisville, KY.  Home of Todd Black?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 10:16:24 PM

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc-rodrizez.jpg)

Here is the info on who made it..........
   
69.243.126.0 - Geo Information
IP Address    69.243.126.0
Host    c-69-243-126-0.hsd1.md.comcast.net
Location    US US, United States
City    Gaithersburg, MD -
Organization    Comcast Cable
ISP    Comcast Cable
AS Number    AS33657 Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.
Latitude    39°16'38" North
Longitude    77°18'34" West
Distance    7903.13 km (4910.78 miles)
I found this IP to be in Columbia MD and there is a william rod. in columbia  ::MonkeyEek:: how old is he?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Puzzler on June 19, 2011, 10:16:50 PM
Klaas, I agree with you about wiki but why would somebody edit erroneous info accidentally over & over again? Did you see where somebody had a previous edit on Vass' page that said something about an Anthony case opinion?

Like, look at this one for the Body Farm... You can even see where edits were reported as violations. There are alot from this year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&limit=100&action=history

OH there is absolutely some funny stuff going on and in this case likely funny stuff sanctioned by the defense team.  That is sortof my point.  Anyone can edit Wiki and unless someone checks it out, that edit might stay and appear to be legit.

Check this out he was added.............

Latest revision as of 09:24, 19 May 2011

The University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility, better known as the Body Farm and sometimes seen as the Forensic Anthropology Facility,[1] was started in late 1971 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez as a facility for study of the decomposition of human remains. It is located a few miles from downtown Knoxville, Tennessee, USA, behind the University of Tennessee Medical Center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&action=historysubmit&diff=429854147&oldid=404339332

What was Dr. Rod's "age" in 1971??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: yuknomenot on June 19, 2011, 10:22:14 PM
Klass have you put soccybrarian into google? Only three or four down start giving post related to Vass . Maybe nothing just wondered if you looked.

I could be wrong but I think that wordpress blog is linking somehow to wiki

You know what, they definitely have an interest in this case.  I'll dig a bit further into this soccybrarian person.  Thanks.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/ (http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/) Towards the bottom @ 6/6 4:35 p.m. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 10:22:46 PM
Klaas, I agree with you about wiki but why would somebody edit erroneous info accidentally over & over again? Did you see where somebody had a previous edit on Vass' page that said something about an Anthony case opinion?

Like, look at this one for the Body Farm... You can even see where edits were reported as violations. There are alot from this year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&limit=100&action=history

OH there is absolutely some funny stuff going on and in this case likely funny stuff sanctioned by the defense team.  That is sortof my point.  Anyone can edit Wiki and unless someone checks it out, that edit might stay and appear to be legit.

Check this out he was added.............

Latest revision as of 09:24, 19 May 2011

The University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility, better known as the Body Farm and sometimes seen as the Forensic Anthropology Facility,[1] was started in late 1971 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez as a facility for study of the decomposition of human remains. It is located a few miles from downtown Knoxville, Tennessee, USA, behind the University of Tennessee Medical Center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&action=historysubmit&diff=429854147&oldid=404339332

What was Dr. Rod's "age" in 1971??

I changed the 1971 too - it was 1981.  Dr. Bass came UT in 1971 but that is not when the Body Farm was started.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 10:25:24 PM
Klass have you put soccybrarian into google? Only three or four down start giving post related to Vass . Maybe nothing just wondered if you looked.

I could be wrong but I think that wordpress blog is linking somehow to wiki

You know what, they definitely have an interest in this case.  I'll dig a bit further into this soccybrarian person.  Thanks.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/ (http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/) Towards the bottom @ 6/6 4:35 p.m. 
::MonkeyEek:: wow GREAT CATCH!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 10:26:21 PM
According to the following ... Bill Rodriguez had a connection to the Body Farm since early on in its inception but co-founder ... I don't think so.

Janet

+++++

World of Forensic Science

Body Farm


The Body Farm is more correctly known as the University of Tennessee Forensic Anthropology Research Facility. It was established in 1980 by the pioneering forensic anthropologist William Bass  and is dedicated to the study of the rate of decomposition of the human corpse under various conditions that are relevant to crime investigation. Many hallmark scientific papers have come out of the research at the Body Farm and this new knowledge has been crucial in driving forensic investigation into unsolved deaths.

<snipped>

The facility began as a piece of waste ground close to the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. From 1980, Bass and his team began to prepare the site and, in 1981, received their first body for examination.
 
<snipped>

Researchers who have worked at the Body Farm have begun to contribute information that aids in determining time of death with precision. For example, the role of insects in corpse decomposition has been investigated by Bill Rodriquez. His observations back in the early days of the Body Farm showed that blowflies come to a body within minutes of death and feed on bloody areas, where wounds have been inflicted, or on moist areas like the mouth. After this, they go through their life cycle, feeding on the body, and producing eggs and maggots. This kind of evidence can be used in a forensic investigation, but had not been much researched before the advent of the Body Farm. A paper on this work published by Rodriguez in the Journal of Forensic Sciences in 1982, went on to become one of the most cited articles in the field.

<snipped>

http://www.enotes.com/forensic-science/body-farm

According to the above ... the Body Farm was founded in 1982 ... not 1971.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 10:27:49 PM
Klass have you put soccybrarian into google? Only three or four down start giving post related to Vass . Maybe nothing just wondered if you looked.

I could be wrong but I think that wordpress blog is linking somehow to wiki

You know what, they definitely have an interest in this case.  I'll dig a bit further into this soccybrarian person.  Thanks.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/ (http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/) Towards the bottom @ 6/6 4:35 p.m. 
::MonkeyEek:: wow GREAT CATCH!!!!

Soccybrarian is definitely interested in the case.  Looks like they fashion themselves to be a "cybrarian" (cyber librarian).  It will be hard to find out who they really are.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: yuknomenot on June 19, 2011, 10:28:32 PM
Klass have you put soccybrarian into google? Only three or four down start giving post related to Vass . Maybe nothing just wondered if you looked.

I could be wrong but I think that wordpress blog is linking somehow to wiki

You know what, they definitely have an interest in this case.  I'll dig a bit further into this soccybrarian person.  Thanks.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/ (http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/can-i-have-some-fryes-with-that-clandestine-grave-detector/) Towards the bottom @ 6/6 4:35 p.m. 
::MonkeyEek:: wow GREAT CATCH!!!!
Thanks, I found it thru this search http://dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/soccybrarian/1/417/TopNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true (http://dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/soccybrarian/1/417/TopNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 10:29:06 PM
According to the following ... Bill Rodriguez had a connection to the Body Farm since early on in its inception but co-founder ... I don't think so.

Janet

+++++

World of Forensic Science

Body Farm


The Body Farm is more correctly known as the University of Tennessee Forensic Anthropology Research Facility. It was established in 1980 by the pioneering forensic anthropologist William Bass  and is dedicated to the study of the rate of decomposition of the human corpse under various conditions that are relevant to crime investigation. Many hallmark scientific papers have come out of the research at the Body Farm and this new knowledge has been crucial in driving forensic investigation into unsolved deaths.

<snipped>

The facility began as a piece of waste ground close to the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. From 1980, Bass and his team began to prepare the site and, in 1981, received their first body for examination.
 
<snipped>

Researchers who have worked at the Body Farm have begun to contribute information that aids in determining time of death with precision. For example, the role of insects in corpse decomposition has been investigated by Bill Rodriquez. His observations back in the early days of the Body Farm showed that blowflies come to a body within minutes of death and feed on bloody areas, where wounds have been inflicted, or on moist areas like the mouth. After this, they go through their life cycle, feeding on the body, and producing eggs and maggots. This kind of evidence can be used in a forensic investigation, but had not been much researched before the advent of the Body Farm. A paper on this work published by Rodriguez in the Journal of Forensic Sciences in 1982, went on to become one of the most cited articles in the field.

<snipped>

http://www.enotes.com/forensic-science/body-farm

According to the above ... the Body Farm was founded in 1982 ... not 1971.

Janet

They got their first body in 1981 - only had 4 bodies that year.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 10:32:26 PM
Here is Dr. Vass' dissertation.

The dissertation was chaired by Professor Emeritus William Bass, a physical anthropologist.

APA reference:

Vass, A. A. (1991). Time since death determinations of human cadavers utilizing soil solution (Doctoral dissertation.) Retrieved from ProQuest Dissertations and Theses Database. (AAT 9212804)


http://vassphd.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/vassphd/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: yuknomenot on June 19, 2011, 10:34:24 PM
It couldn't be so simple? http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/ (http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 10:37:16 PM
According to the following ... Bill Rodriguez had a connection to the Body Farm since early on in its inception but co-founder ... I don't think so.

Janet

+++++

World of Forensic Science

Body Farm


The Body Farm is more correctly known as the University of Tennessee Forensic Anthropology Research Facility. It was established in 1980 by the pioneering forensic anthropologist William Bass  and is dedicated to the study of the rate of decomposition of the human corpse under various conditions that are relevant to crime investigation. Many hallmark scientific papers have come out of the research at the Body Farm and this new knowledge has been crucial in driving forensic investigation into unsolved deaths.

<snipped>

The facility began as a piece of waste ground close to the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. From 1980, Bass and his team began to prepare the site and, in 1981, received their first body for examination.
 
<snipped>

Researchers who have worked at the Body Farm have begun to contribute information that aids in determining time of death with precision. For example, the role of insects in corpse decomposition has been investigated by Bill Rodriquez. His observations back in the early days of the Body Farm showed that blowflies come to a body within minutes of death and feed on bloody areas, where wounds have been inflicted, or on moist areas like the mouth. After this, they go through their life cycle, feeding on the body, and producing eggs and maggots. This kind of evidence can be used in a forensic investigation, but had not been much researched before the advent of the Body Farm. A paper on this work published by Rodriguez in the Journal of Forensic Sciences in 1982, went on to become one of the most cited articles in the field.

<snipped>

http://www.enotes.com/forensic-science/body-farm

According to the above ... the Body Farm was founded in 1981 ... not 1971.

Janet

They got their first body in 1981 - only had 4 bodies that year.

TURBOTHINK

The article implies that Bill  Rodriguez may have been a researcher at the Body Farm earlier on but ... nothing about "co-founder".

I hope this issue is addressed tomorrow at the trial.

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 19, 2011, 10:37:52 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Yep, I'm bonkers...you already supplied it! Thx Klaas!

I said May 2010 but it was 2009 - sorry for that. Somewhere I saw an edit in May of 2010 - but where now I have no idea. LOL

I went back through the thread..there was an edit in Oct of 2010, which is the one Turbo caught..which made me wonder...why oh why...when was Mr R hired by the defense, and when were certain prosecution witnesses added ..that made the defense or Mr R  go there?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 10:38:07 PM
Klaas..   Sorry for OT.. why do my front page posts never show up?

Looks like you are using AOL and maybe that AOL IP was banned at one time (not you but many people end up with the same AOL IP and someones may have been banned).  Your post just now was in the spam folder so I took it out.  It shows now. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 10:38:49 PM
It couldn't be so simple? http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/ (http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/)

They are editing/posting stuff.  They are a "cybrarian" (like a librarian but on the internet).   I don't see their real name on that link they are simply making posts of other peoples/teachers stuff.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 10:41:54 PM
Changed to using bing and found these. The first one is a submit questions for bill shaefer . 350+ submitted so I might have missed it . Then I looked at the second link, doesn't that look like a post was completely changed?Most likely totally wrong but I hope we find something to make baez look bad.
http://billsheaffer.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/submit-questions-for-bill-to-answer/

http://www.changedetection.com/log/wordpress/billsheaffer/index_log.html#changelist


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 10:42:07 PM
It couldn't be so simple? http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/ (http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/)
an instructor at Waynesburg University?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 10:43:38 PM
The change one I waspointing out is on page 2 entry 5 in case it links to page 1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 10:45:54 PM
Also this Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Tennessee_Anthropological_Research_Facility&diff=293556966&oldid=289617094

With an edit of May 2009 adding Rodriguez, also by a Maryland IP

Yep, I'm bonkers...you already supplied it! Thx Klaas!

I said May 2010 but it was 2009 - sorry for that. Somewhere I saw an edit in May of 2010 - but where now I have no idea. LOL

I went back through the thread..there was an edit in Oct of 2010, which is the one Turbo caught..which made me wonder...why oh why...when was Mr R hired by the defense, and when were certain prosecution witnesses added ..that made the defense or Mr R  go there?

There are 2 wikis for The Body Farm.  One called Body Farm and one for the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility.  The Body Farm edit was Oct 2010.  The Univ of TN edit was May 2009.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2434/5848725012_ebf53d4f17_o.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5031/5850232856_f04bf85c97_o.jpg)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2011, 10:49:46 PM
If Dr Rod hadnt made that pointed comment about being an unpaid consultant, all of this may have just passed by.. I hope something sleazy gets tied to Bobo.. I despise him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 19, 2011, 10:49:57 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.
I just want to say what a GREAT job you guys are at digging and finding stuff and exposing the idiots!!  Thanks from all of us!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: IBE on June 19, 2011, 10:51:51 PM
Hello Klaas, help please? I just posted this on the front page of scaredmonkeys.com and it is waiting moderation. Would you please go into paragraph 8 and put a "t" on texting? TIA
I have put the "t" into this post.

Yes, the information on wickie depends on the credibility of the person who is putting in the information into it. Even I can change information, if I wished and might know nothing about subject!

IMO A party of the Court should never use wickie as a reference. All information in Court should be investigated by investigators who know the ins and outs of online information and check and recheck all the information and credibility before it is introduced.. But maybe that would be too hard in 3 years, oh come on

It's one thing to defend your client; it's another to make a mockery of the US freedom given by the Court system. .

Why doesn't someone bring up the texting in Court? To me that would be a way to get information to the attorney in real time by another, unknown by the Court, not sworn in and influencing the Court process in a big time way. I could be giving an attorney a game plan; information on the topic the defense team should already know after 3 years.  Questions to ask on cross, all kinds of outside influencing information in real time. If i were Judge I would forbid it!! Sleeping in Court, you get kicked out. An outside of the Court person communicating with the defense attorney by texting and you get nothing!

IMO the Judge is outstanding, but I do question the ethics of having in and out texting in Court.

Done


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 10:52:57 PM
So does soccybrarian mean anything or is it some kind of computer term? If it helps  ::boxingbaez2:: I got plenty of time to look things up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 10:53:23 PM
Thank you Klaas & Turbo.

I keep wondering, with Rodriguez's education & all of his contributions, why would he feel the need to embellish? His experience & contribution speaks for itself. His extensive background in research & education is exemplary. Maybe he feels as though he cofounded the BF based on his entomological contribution? I know Bass ran it but when I compare their Curriculum Vitae, you can see when more cadavars were added and the concentration became more focused on the insect activity, more precisely Blowflies & their revolving life cycles. Something just bothers me bc the FBI & the Dept of Armed Forces & Defense, etc wouldn't utilize him if he's a true liar. I'm thinking, when he speaks of cofounding, maybe it's in reference to all of the original team that assisted in the research & was headed by Bass...like when Bass got approval to add more cadavars & land, not the original when there was just 1 cadavar. In other words, the Body Farm as we know it today. Literally just wondering...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on June 19, 2011, 10:55:01 PM
I guess to me the biggest question with MR R and the young bud dude is..why are you going after the testimony of people that have supported you and worked with you in the past?

Not asking about Dr Spitz..because he sold his soul to the media and the highest bidder in these cases long ago.

But I am still wondering why someone who works with the federal government and military in his capcity is even testifying for the defense?   Even if he is a consultant to the federal government he would have to sign contracts with them. Aren't there restrictions in federal employees getting involved in cases like this..if they weren't involved in the investigative stages and are not requested by the family of governmeant employees or the State?

Does this mean every government employee can become a defense witness for "not hire", since he so carefully added he wasn't paid?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: IBE on June 19, 2011, 10:56:29 PM
Oh gads. The post needs a capital "I". I am watching the food channel and should be doing only one thing at a time

Hello, Texasgrandfather. Your posts show empathy and  ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2:: ::boxingbaez2::intelligence... I am a lurker on blinkoncrime.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: yuknomenot on June 19, 2011, 10:58:22 PM
It couldn't be so simple? http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/ (http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/)

They are editing/posting stuff.  They are a "cybrarian" (like a librarian but on the internet).   I don't see their real name on that link they are simply making posts of other peoples/teachers stuff.
Thanks, I figured I was reading it wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: IBE on June 19, 2011, 10:58:47 PM
Klaas, just not my day! I put in an icon that I didn't know I did. My cursor is jumping all over the place. See you guys tomorrow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2011, 11:01:50 PM
So does soccybrarian mean anything or is it some kind of computer term? If it helps  ::boxingbaez2:: I got plenty of time to look things up.

Not sure what the SOC means but CYBRARIAN means cyber librarian.  It is their nickname just like Alagary is your nickname.  So soccybrarian is just another person on the internet and who they are in real life we don't know for sure and can only suspect they are sympathetic to the defense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on June 19, 2011, 11:03:20 PM
Klaas, just not my day! I put in an icon that I didn't know I did. My cursor is jumping all over the place. See you guys tomorrow.


The following baby step instructions were afforded to me by Wreck when I had the "jumping" problem.

Janet

+++++

wreck
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 - 6/2/10
« Reply #705 on: May 17, 2010, 01:46:40 AM »


In IE8 - go to "TOOLS" - scroll down to "Compatibility View Settings". Click on it and a box will pop up --the put a checkmark in "Display all websites in comptibility view"

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.msg1134689#msg1134689


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 11:27:46 PM

Great post Red - this can use all the attention it can get!  I hope Ashton has time to review before his cross examination of Rodriguez tomorrow  ::MonkeyCool::

I just hope he reads his email and calls Dr. Bass. If so there should be some fireworks tomorrow.

I'd call and leave a message on his phone and LDB's line.....I did it with AJ in the PS case and he got right back to me an asked me for he info, and phone number and email of the expert I told him about....I felt like a fool, but he was very nice and thanked me several times for getting in touch with him. Good job on Rip Torn, I mean Wm Rodriguez ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 19, 2011, 11:28:59 PM
I've been wondering what is going through Casey's mind after court each day. I think I've figured it out.....

I'd bet money she wishes she had just held Caylee down in the pool and then, after making sure she was gone, called 9-1-1.

Of course, with all the "hoopla" afterward, it might have interfered with her spending the night with Tony, which seems to have been her priority.   :roll:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Green Eyes on June 19, 2011, 11:30:51 PM
Hi all before I call it a night I have been wondering why some one with Mr. Rodriguez's credentials would feel the need to boast his resume and make sure we all knew from the start that he was doing this for free.  I hate to say this but I think some how Baez cried to him about him being a hispanic with this very important case and how he is be picked one and after all Mr. Rodriguez is a hispanic. So he played the race card with Rodriguez. We all have heard Baez say time and time again he is the first hispanic to try such a high profile case.  I wouldn't put it pass him to cry and whine how LE is out to get him and tell him how they are framing Casey.  Just a thought.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 19, 2011, 11:34:28 PM
Good article on Dr. Bass from 2003.  Write up includes how and why HE started the body farm.  Also mentions about cataloguing the smell of death to make a artificial "sniffer".  Dr.  Vass's work I am guessing.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=9E5aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6SgMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1791,8552688&dq=university+of+tennessee+anthropological+research+facility&hl=en


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 19, 2011, 11:35:35 PM
Hi GE!!  ::MonkeyDance::

That's a very plausible thought....... I wouldn't put that past Jose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 19, 2011, 11:37:28 PM

(http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/TURBOTHINK/kc-rodrizez.jpg)

Here is the info on who made it..........
   
69.243.126.0 - Geo Information
IP Address    69.243.126.0
Host    c-69-243-126-0.hsd1.md.comcast.net
Location    US US, United States
City    Gaithersburg, MD -
Organization    Comcast Cable
ISP    Comcast Cable
AS Number    AS33657 Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.
Latitude    39°16'38" North
Longitude    77°18'34" West
Distance    7903.13 km (4910.78 miles)

Ok, this is too weird....I show he works in Rockville, MD (but could be wrong), and look and see how close Rockville, is to Gaithersburg ::MonkeyEek::  I show anywhere from 10-24 minutes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 11:38:09 PM
Just passing this along, don't kill the messen ::MonkeyCool::ger;
http://www.issues.cc/complaints/casey-anthony/george-anthony-knows-the-truth


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 11:39:25 PM
Thank you Klaas & Turbo.

I keep wondering, with Rodriguez's education & all of his contributions, why would he feel the need to embellish? His experience & contribution speaks for itself. His extensive background in research & education is exemplary. Maybe he feels as though he cofounded the BF based on his entomological contribution? I know Bass ran it but when I compare their Curriculum Vitae, you can see when more cadavars were added and the concentration became more focused on the insect activity, more precisely Blowflies & their revolving life cycles. Something just bothers me bc the FBI & the Dept of Armed Forces & Defense, etc wouldn't utilize him if he's a true liar. I'm thinking, when he speaks of cofounding, maybe it's in reference to all of the original team that assisted in the research & was headed by Bass...like when Bass got approval to add more cadavars & land, not the original when there was just 1 cadavar. In other words, the Body Farm as we know it today. Literally just wondering...

I don't understand that at all. He is as far as I know well respected in the field. That is why when someone asked about it and said he testified on the stand he was the co-founder I kind of freaked out. I am no expert on the Body Farm but I do know the players and I do know who he is and what his role was there. I have not looked at his bio, but I can tell you he did not even graduate from college until 1981. By the time he received his Ph.D. I am almost sure he was in Louisana working for a coroner there. Take what I say with a grain of salt because much of it is from memory with no links to back it up, but I do believe if you look hard enough you will find my info is accurate. I am actually a little sad that a man with his credentials would embellish his credentials by telling something that is so easily verified.

If I heard him right in his testimony he said something like him and Dr. Bass were in his office and they decided, blah, blah, blah like he was a colleague of Dr. Bass. He was NEVER a colleague to my knowledge but a student. He also said when THEY started it he poured concrete and built the fence. I don't know about the concrete, but there was no fence when the Body Farm first started.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 11:42:32 PM
Just passing this along, don't kill the messen ::MonkeyCool::ger;
http://www.issues.cc/complaints/casey-anthony/george-anthony-knows-the-truth

Read that carefully...........I think you will recognize the style of writing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 19, 2011, 11:43:57 PM
Between April 1981 and April 1982 when this article was written the fence was errected. 

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=U8shAAAAIBAJ&sjid=VZ4FAAAAIBAJ&pg=1863,1112953&dq=university+of+tennessee+anthropological+research+facility+fence&hl=en


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 19, 2011, 11:44:29 PM
So does soccybrarian mean anything or is it some kind of computer term? If it helps  ::boxingbaez2:: I got plenty of time to look things up.

Not sure what the SOC means but CYBRARIAN means cyber librarian.  It is their nickname just like Alagary is your nickname.  So soccybrarian is just another person on the internet and who they are in real life we don't know for sure and can only suspect they are sympathetic to the defense.

This person is an anti dp advocate, they are pro defense. soccybrarian also shows up as soc.cybrarian & other various forms. When I click on this link, there is a poll about Vass, then there's 1 comment from "Leslie":
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?gl=us&source=mog&q=cache:YeeQjzzDxMoJ:vassphd.wordpress.com/2011/06/05/dr-vass-poll/

The comment supplies a link talking about Judge Perry & the 1st Amendment. They are complaining bc JP wouldn't let people hand out info to potential jurors:
http://florida.fija.org/orlando-florida-chief-judge-kills-1st-amendment/

So, when I click in that link, it takes me to a write-up about jury nullification & how to hang a jury, etc. The write-up is from when JP stopped them from handing out info to jurors so they are complaining that it's a violation. When you go to the other 2 links supplied in this article, it shows info on hung juries, etc:
http://www.isil.org/resources/lit/history-jury-null.html
&
http://fija.org/docs/BR_2007_who_owns_your_body.pdf

ISIL and FIJA are both 2 groups that help support the ACLU & they're all advocates to abolish the death penalty.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on June 19, 2011, 11:45:02 PM
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 11:45:25 PM
Hi all before I call it a night I have been wondering why some one with Mr. Rodriguez's credentials would feel the need to boast his resume and make sure we all knew from the start that he was doing this for free.  I hate to say this but I think some how Baez cried to him about him being a hispanic with this very important case and how he is be picked one and after all Mr. Rodriguez is a hispanic. So he played the race card with Rodriguez. We all have heard Baez say time and time again he is the first hispanic to try such a high profile case.  I wouldn't put it pass him to cry and whine how LE is out to get him and tell him how they are framing Casey.  Just a thought.  

That makes a lot of sense. Much more so than them telling he was the co-founder of the Body Farm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: mizjay on June 19, 2011, 11:47:19 PM
Just passing this along, don't kill the messen ::MonkeyCool::ger;
http://www.issues.cc/complaints/casey-anthony/george-anthony-knows-the-truth

Read that carefully...........I think you will recognize the style of writing.
there's the picture of Caylee where she has obviously been drugged sometime prior to the picture being taken. NO child can do that with their face...or at least none that I've ever known!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 19, 2011, 11:48:13 PM
I guess to me the biggest question with MR R and the young bud dude is..why are you going after the testimony of people that have supported you and worked with you in the past?

Not asking about Dr Spitz..because he sold his soul to the media and the highest bidder in these cases long ago.

But I am still wondering why someone who works with the federal government and military in his capcity is even testifying for the defense?   Even if he is a consultant to the federal government he would have to sign contracts with them. Aren't there restrictions in federal employees getting involved in cases like this..if they weren't involved in the investigative stages and are not requested by the family of governmeant employees or the State?

Does this mean every government employee can become a defense witness for "not hire", since he so carefully added he wasn't paid?

That is another good question. I would think he would have to get permission to testify since that is the normal procedure. I am guessing he is a civilian government worker, but one thing I keep seeing is all  his contributions to identifying the bodies in 911 but I can't find any reference to him prior to 2009 about that. The more I investigate, the more curious I have become.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 19, 2011, 11:50:16 PM
Has anyone else seen this?
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/26/news/mn-32985

Another case of murder of children by duck tape.

DAMN!!!  thanks cubbee

All the crazies will be using it now.

Yep....women killing their children just makes me crazy.....hell, walk away, give them away, kill yourself.....but kill them.....my mind can't go there to even try to understand

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: mine either, Sunny. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: IBE on June 19, 2011, 11:50:37 PM
Our Monkeys are doing Good Works, as usual! Justice for Caylee! God Bless and help all who are involved on both sides.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2011, 11:55:34 PM
I' guess I'm not good at that sort of thing turbo , who wrote it?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Magnolia on June 20, 2011, 12:03:00 AM
It is just my opinion, but it seems to me that Baez was trying to one-up
Dr Vass by having Rodriguez testify that he started the body farm with Dr. Bass.
The jury and all were impressed with Dr. Vass and most enjoyed his testimony.
Baez just decided to stretch the truth to make his witness seem even more
credible than Dr. Vass.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 20, 2011, 12:07:07 AM
Turbo - this may be what you were looking for earlier in the thread.  Article about looky-loos at the body farm, greater security needed from 1982. Note, no menton of Rod.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Ywc0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=ByMIAAAAIBAJ&pg=1352,2727934&dq=university-of-tennessee+bass&hl=en


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 20, 2011, 12:07:25 AM
Bass is hysterical at times............Everyone LOVES the man.

Outsiders sometimes call the university switchboard, asking for the Body Farm's nonexistent phone number. "Nobody there needs a phone," Bass explains. "I told my secretary to tell people it's 1-800-I-AM-DEAD."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 20, 2011, 12:10:35 AM
Turbo - this may be what you were looking for earlier in the thread.  Article about looky-loos at the body farm, greater security needed from 1982. Note, no menton of Rod.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Ywc0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=ByMIAAAAIBAJ&pg=1352,2727934&dq=university-of-tennessee+bass&hl=en

Awesome find Rose..Thank you....I knew there was no fence there at first but had no way to back it up for Ashton as it was from memory.  .......I am going to send that to him also. Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 20, 2011, 12:13:22 AM
Bass is hysterical at times............Everyone LOVES the man.

Outsiders sometimes call the university switchboard, asking for the Body Farm's nonexistent phone number. "Nobody there needs a phone," Bass explains. "I told my secretary to tell people it's 1-800-I-AM-DEAD."

I read that last night, got a good laugh.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: flamom on June 20, 2011, 12:14:01 AM
Goodnight Monkey Friends! See you at 9am est in court.!!  ::MonkeyGavel::  ::justice2NJ::  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingcasey2::   ::boxingjeffbaez::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 20, 2011, 12:21:52 AM
Just passing this along, don't kill the messen ::MonkeyCool::ger;
http://www.issues.cc/complaints/casey-anthony/george-anthony-knows-the-truth

Read that carefully...........I think you will recognize the style of writing.
there's the picture of Caylee where she has obviously been drugged sometime prior to the picture being taken. NO child can do that with their face...or at least none that I've ever known!

Good heavens that article is bunk....first, the paternity test wasn't when she was preggers , second as weird as it may be- I know soooo many of my friends that had their dad and mother and even other family members in the delivery room and third, my parents nor anyone else in my family knew I was pregnant with my first until I was 7 mos pregnant (granted I wasn't as big as Casey), but nevertheless...and with my second I was so worried about a miscarriage due to spotting that I didn't tell anyone but the sperm donor until 5+ months when I saw the ultrasound and found out the sex, then I couldn't keep it a secret anymore.

Thanks for bringing that over though!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: 4 Donks on June 20, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
According to his CV he was a reaching asst dept of anthropology U of T   1982-1984

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html        Pg285


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: 4 Donks on June 20, 2011, 12:27:02 AM
According to his CV he was a teaching asst dept of anthropology U of T   1982-1984

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html        Pg285
self edit spelling


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: islandmonkey on June 20, 2011, 12:27:24 AM
I guess to me the biggest question with MR R and the young bud dude is..why are you going after the testimony of people that have supported you and worked with you in the past?

Not asking about Dr Spitz..because he sold his soul to the media and the highest bidder in these cases long ago.

But I am still wondering why someone who works with the federal government and military in his capcity is even testifying for the defense?   Even if he is a consultant to the federal government he would have to sign contracts with them. Aren't there restrictions in federal employees getting involved in cases like this..if they weren't involved in the investigative stages and are not requested by the family of governmeant employees or the State?

Does this mean every government employee can become a defense witness for "not hire", since he so carefully added he wasn't paid?

That is another good question. I would think he would have to get permission to testify since that is the normal procedure. I am guessing he is a civilian government worker, but one thing I keep seeing is all  his contributions to identifying the bodies in 911 but I can't find any reference to him prior to 2009 about that. The more I investigate, the more curious I have become.

I am not sure about that..my friend I posted about who is a wound ballistics/forensic expert was in armed services and testified for prosecution and defense even before he retired. One case I had read about while reading a true crime book, that is how I learned my acct/customer at the time was pretty famous, never before had he alluded to anything, since then I have read so many books with him in them, and movies..totally weird, but admirable for someone not to scream about their credentials


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 20, 2011, 12:29:06 AM
According to his CV he was a reaching asst dept of anthropology U of T   1982-1984

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html        Pg285

Teaching Asst? Lol I'm used to being the one with spellcheck probs! :-)

Did you check out his awards from UT Knoxville? Pretty impressive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 20, 2011, 12:29:40 AM
According to his CV he was a teaching asst dept of anthropology U of T   1982-1984

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html        Pg285
self edit spelling


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Northern Rose on June 20, 2011, 12:30:43 AM
According to his CV he was a reaching asst dept of anthropology U of T   1982-1984

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html        Pg285

I am going through old newspapers from 1979-1985 and he is not mentioned by name yet anywhere when it comes to U of T.  I do know how they got their new Anthropology building in 1983 now thanks to the World's Fair in Knoxville coming up short in funds and giving them one building and some pavilions in kind for rental of land.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/1983/02/23/03090015.h02.html?tkn=ZMXF7%2FPVMBI%2F2oOZpS6OQrhB08BHhMpAHj9K&print=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Titch on June 20, 2011, 12:31:48 AM
Sorry about the posts, on my phone. I think I miss my old Blackberry. When I type on my iPhone, it's difficult when I'm used to feeling the keys instead of a flat screen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: texasmom on June 20, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
Turbo - this may be what you were looking for earlier in the thread.  Article about looky-loos at the body farm, greater security needed from 1982. Note, no menton of Rod.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Ywc0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=ByMIAAAAIBAJ&pg=1352,2727934&dq=university-of-tennessee+bass&hl=en

Awesome find Rose..Thank you....I knew there was no fence there at first but had no way to back it up for Ashton as it was from memory.  .......I am going to send that to him also. Thank you.

The article says the bodies were in a fenced in area.

From the link above:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Casey%20Anthony%20Murder%20Trial/06192011.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 20, 2011, 12:37:37 AM
According to his CV he was a reaching asst dept of anthropology U of T   1982-1984

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/26147124/detail.html        Pg285

Now that I will agree with..............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 20, 2011, 12:50:57 AM
Turbo - this may be what you were looking for earlier in the thread.  Article about looky-loos at the body farm, greater security needed from 1982. Note, no menton of Rod.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Ywc0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=ByMIAAAAIBAJ&pg=1352,2727934&dq=university-of-tennessee+bass&hl=en

Awesome find Rose..Thank you....I knew there was no fence there at first but had no way to back it up for Ashton as it was from memory.  .......I am going to send that to him also. Thank you.

The article says the bodies were in a fenced in area.

From the link above:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Casey%20Anthony%20Murder%20Trial/06192011.jpg)

There was a hill you had to walk up a ways into the woods but the fence as best I remember it was only on the side of the animal research center (no longer there) which was on the right as you came in the road behind the hospital off Cherokee trail. It was not all around the BF. They did have to build one, and maybe it was built by that time, but in the beginning there was NO FENCE.

I might call in the morning and see if I can find out exactly what year the first fence was put up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on June 20, 2011, 01:09:44 AM
http://www.amdecon.com/bodyfarmone.html

A good article from a person who did an internship at the Body Farm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 20, 2011, 01:13:40 AM
       
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 20, 2011, 01:15:40 AM
Love it KCJackie!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: KCJackie on June 20, 2011, 01:16:49 AM
Love it KCJackie!

 ::MonkeyDance:: Thank You!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 20, 2011, 01:23:27 AM
found this, probably nothing,

nrobbiz@gmail.com

EMAIL from this link:
http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/author/nrobbiz/
googled that email to find this, with a name and number that I deleted but left the area code. 
Area code 724 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Area code 724 is a Commonwealth of Pennsylvania telephone area code in western and southwestern Pennsylvania, including the outer suburbs of Pittsburgh.

http://tpscalu.wordpress.com/

snipped:
Lastly, please keep CalU’s LOC TPS program in mind for future teaching or classroom needs regarding the Library of Congress or primary sources.  I can be reached by phone at 724-XXX-XXXX or via email (nrobbiz@gmail.com).

Best,


Nik Roberts


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 20, 2011, 01:26:08 AM
found this, probably nothing,

nrobbiz@gmail.com

EMAIL from this link:
http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/author/nrobbiz/
googled that email to find this, with a name and number that I deleted but left the area code. 
Area code 724 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Area code 724 is a Commonwealth of Pennsylvania telephone area code in western and southwestern Pennsylvania, including the outer suburbs of Pittsburgh.

http://tpscalu.wordpress.com/

snipped:
Lastly, please keep CalU’s LOC TPS program in mind for future teaching or classroom needs regarding the Library of Congress or primary sources.  I can be reached by phone at 724-XXX-XXXX or via email (nrobbiz@gmail.com).

Best,


Nik Roberts

I believe soc.cybrarian is posting that stuff and updating the CalU's LOC TPS site but I don't think soc.cybrarian = Nik Roberts


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 20, 2011, 01:26:42 AM
found this, probably nothing,

nrobbiz@gmail.com

EMAIL from this link:
http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/author/nrobbiz/
googled that email to find this, with a name and number that I deleted but left the area code. 
Area code 724 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Area code 724 is a Commonwealth of Pennsylvania telephone area code in western and southwestern Pennsylvania, including the outer suburbs of Pittsburgh.

http://tpscalu.wordpress.com/

snipped:
Lastly, please keep CalU’s LOC TPS program in mind for future teaching or classroom needs regarding the Library of Congress or primary sources.  I can be reached by phone at 724-XXX-XXXX or via email (nrobbiz@gmail.com).

Best,


Nik Roberts
ADDING to previous post:
going here: http://civilwartps.wordpress.com/author/nrobbiz/
you see an author soc cybrarian who signs posts as Nik, or Gay and Nik and the email above.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 20, 2011, 01:31:16 AM
Klaas,
are you saying that soc cybrarian is not the author of those articles?  I noted they are signed by "Nik" or "Gay and Nik".  Sorry if I just added more confusion.  Some things I googled brought up the UK and I thought you posted something about that too.

See ya tomorrow!  Great work Monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: O4Bull on June 20, 2011, 01:39:08 AM
Same person, Nik Roberts as my post above found on the same teaching website.
roberts_n@calu.edu



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: klaasend on June 20, 2011, 01:41:35 AM
Same person, Nik Roberts as my post above found on the same teaching website.
roberts_n@calu.edu



I think, but I could be totally wrong that soc.cybrarian is compiling information but their name is not Nik Roberts.  Like I said, I could be totally wrong. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: Lake Erie Princess on June 20, 2011, 01:54:09 AM
       
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This is incredible ! Not sad, just touches my heart seeing that smile  !
She could very well be there. One never knows, & I do believe we go on,
and we can be  spirits who are present , if someone needs us after our death.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 20, 2011, 01:56:01 AM
       
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I LOVE IT, Jackie!!   ::MonkeyDance::

You even got the monkeys on the team!!!

What a lovely tribute to JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!!  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 22- 6/18 - 6/19/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on June 20, 2011, 05:39:09 AM
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DAY 23:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10781.0
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