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Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 02:01:40 AM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 10:19:30 AM
Beleive it or not Terry... after trying a zillion different coffee makers... the percolator is my fav... makes the best tasting coffee!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:20:02 AM
If you have no power, you need to get you a coffee pot that goes on a camping stove or a grill.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 10:24:07 AM
I recently retired my old coffee maker.  It worked fine, but the coffee started tasting funky and the vinigar thing did not seem to help any longer.

Who is doing what for the 4th of July?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 10:25:31 AM
I hate to admit this, but Red and I drink so much coffee that we go through coffee makers every 6 months!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 10:26:11 AM
There is a cute cuisinart grind and brew for 1/2 price on Smartbargains this morning! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 10:27:33 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Beleive it or not Terry... after trying a zillion different coffee makers... the percolator is my fav... makes the best tasting coffee!!


Nothing like perked coffee.
That's what i have at my house...........sistah! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 10:27:39 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I recently retired my old coffee maker.  It worked fine, but the coffee started tasting funky and the vinigar thing did not seem to help any longer.

Who is doing what for the 4th of July?


Every 4th of July we have a party at my house.  All the family and friends come over.  From our deck we can watch 3 different fireworks shows as long as the weather permits and it's not too overcast.  So July 4th in the afternoon, I won't be around much!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 10:27:57 AM
I have power generator and therefore I have power, I just want something that I can grind some beans and make my coffee for me in the mornings.. I have a friend that has one I like but its kinda big for just me..  I think I might go with a percolator like mrsred likes..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 10:28:37 AM
I have to do some work, someone just called and wants some stuff done by lunch time..  Bye..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 10:30:58 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Beleive it or not Terry... after trying a zillion different coffee makers... the percolator is my fav... makes the best tasting coffee!!


Nothing like perked coffee.
That's what i have at my house...........sistah! :lol:


^^^^^5 !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I have to do some work, someone just called and wants some stuff done by lunch time..  Bye..


boss just rolled in... i will BBL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I recently retired my old coffee maker.  It worked fine, but the coffee started tasting funky and the vinigar thing did not seem to help any longer.

Who is doing what for the 4th of July?


Every 4th of July we have a party at my house.  All the family and friends come over.  From our deck we can watch 3 different fireworks shows as long as the weather permits and it's not too overcast.  So July 4th in the afternoon, I won't be around much!  :lol:


Several people in my sub-division always go all out with the fireworks and I can watch them from my patio.  Only thing is that it has been so dry here that the idea kind of spooks me this year.

I think I will order a rack of ribs, baked beans, potato salad and rent movies!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
If you have no power, you need to get you a coffee pot that goes on a camping stove or a grill.


Damm thats right MOM  good thinkin LOL
   I had back surgery about 9 years ago now and i quit breathing on the OR Tabel and was on a ventalator for about a week  left me with nerve damage down legs and in underside of arms  Ulna nerve damage .
  I have a small farm here in Ohio and raise Horses.
  I am a retired PBR rider and that's what broke my back ( Meant Fallng off a Bull broke my back  LOL Not the Rodeo LOL)and thats why i take Methadone .
 Jerry from Ohio


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 10:34:48 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I recently retired my old coffee maker.  It worked fine, but the coffee started tasting funky and the vinigar thing did not seem to help any longer.

Who is doing what for the 4th of July?


Every 4th of July we have a party at my house.  All the family and friends come over.  From our deck we can watch 3 different fireworks shows as long as the weather permits and it's not too overcast.  So July 4th in the afternoon, I won't be around much!  :lol:


Several people in my sub-division always go all out with the fireworks and I can watch them from my patio.  Only thing is that it has been so dry here that the idea kind of spooks me this year.

I think I will order a rack of ribs, baked beans, potato salad and rent movies!


They outlawed personal fireworks here years ago.  I used to love to set them off but I was always prepared with a trash can full of water.  I would put each used firework in the trashcan to make sure it was out.  Now all we get are the big firework shows that several of the citys do.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 10:35:23 AM
Plans for the 4th.....

After the parade in the neighborhood, I will be spending the 4th of July at the pool.  I'm sure we'll cook out and have cocktails.  Some will pitch horseshoes.  Maybe some volleyball (but not for me.  Broke my arm playing volleyball one year.....whole 'nother story).  


I enjoy fireworks from a distance.  The smell of sulphur makes me nauseous.  Don't need that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 10:37:41 AM
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Quote from: "MominTN"
If you have no power, you need to get you a coffee pot that goes on a camping stove or a grill.


Damm thats right MOM  good thinkin LOL
   I had back surgery about 9 years ago now and i quit breathing on the OR Tabel and was on a ventalator for about a week  left me with nerve damage down legs and in underside of arms  Ulna nerve damage .
  I have a small farm here in Ohio and raise Horses.
  I am a retired PBR rider and that's what broke my back ( Meant Fallng off a Bull broke my back  LOL Not the Rodeo LOL)and thats why i take Methadone .
 Jerry from Ohio


WOW!  A guy I went to high school with was a PBR rider.  Now he works for the railroad.  What kinda horses do you raise?  

You're lucky to be here to tell tales, Jerry.  You take whatever you need.  Just be careful around power tools.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 28, 2006, 10:42:25 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Plans for the 4th.....

After the parade in the neighborhood, I will be spending the 4th of July at the pool.  I'm sure we'll cook out and have cocktails.  Some will pitch horseshoes.  Maybe some volleyball (but not for me.  Broke my arm playing volleyball one year.....whole 'nother story).  


I enjoy fireworks from a distance.  The smell of sulphur makes me nauseous.  Don't need that.


Peaches!  that sounds alot like our plans, except for the parade.  We will probably play volleyball too and we always shoot off fireworks...even though they are illegal here.(as long as it is not too dry)  The kids love it - my fave is shooting off Roman Candles. (and sparklers lol)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:43:11 AM
Jerry I'm sorry about your pain in your back.  Have you tried cutting back on the time you sit at your pc?  Sitting is very hard on a person's back especially if they do not have the support that they need.  Once I realized that and went back to my normal routine, I haven't had a moment of pain since.  In fact, I'm in perfect health in every way...just need to get back to the gym on a regular basis.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Quote from: "MominTN"
If you have no power, you need to get you a coffee pot that goes on a camping stove or a grill.


Damm thats right MOM  good thinkin LOL
   I had back surgery about 9 years ago now and i quit breathing on the OR Tabel and was on a ventalator for about a week  left me with nerve damage down legs and in underside of arms  Ulna nerve damage .
  I have a small farm here in Ohio and raise Horses.
  I am a retired PBR rider and that's what broke my back ( Meant Fallng off a Bull broke my back  LOL Not the Rodeo LOL)and thats why i take Methadone .
 Jerry from Ohio


WOW!  A guy I went to high school with was a PBR rider.  Now he works for the railroad.  What kinda horses do you raise?  

You're lucky to be here to tell tales, Jerry.  You take whatever you need.  Just be careful around power tools.


Hey  tere Peaches   Yup Im darn lucky  and I thank God that i am .
  I have Morgans and Pintos   and i like them a lot  and then I also have my three cats that allow me to live with them as long as i can open the cans  of cat food  if i lose that ability  then im toast  <g>
 When I was married the ex  got me into cats and since then i love these little guys  and there my company .
 Jerry from Ohio


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Quote from: "MominTN"
If you have no power, you need to get you a coffee pot that goes on a camping stove or a grill.


Damm thats right MOM  good thinkin LOL
   I had back surgery about 9 years ago now and i quit breathing on the OR Tabel and was on a ventalator for about a week  left me with nerve damage down legs and in underside of arms  Ulna nerve damage .
  I have a small farm here in Ohio and raise Horses.
  I am a retired PBR rider and that's what broke my back ( Meant Fallng off a Bull broke my back  LOL Not the Rodeo LOL)and thats why i take Methadone .
 Jerry from Ohio


I have often wondered what goes through a person’s mind when they look at thousands of snorting, bucking flesh and decide to get on the back of that potential train wreck! lol

Glad you made it through okay and have learned to manage the pain.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 10:46:58 AM
This morning Tom set up these forums for us:

Monkey Lounge
Missing Persons
Political

THANKS TOM!
 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 10:47:48 AM
Thanks, Tom!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 10:49:43 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I recently retired my old coffee maker.  It worked fine, but the coffee started tasting funky and the vinigar thing did not seem to help any longer.

Who is doing what for the 4th of July?


Every 4th of July we have a party at my house.  All the family and friends come over.  From our deck we can watch 3 different fireworks shows as long as the weather permits and it's not too overcast.  So July 4th in the afternoon, I won't be around much!  :lol:


Several people in my sub-division always go all out with the fireworks and I can watch them from my patio.  Only thing is that it has been so dry here that the idea kind of spooks me this year.

I think I will order a rack of ribs, baked beans, potato salad and rent movies!


They outlawed personal fireworks here years ago.  I used to love to set them off but I was always prepared with a trash can full of water.  I would put each used firework in the trashcan to make sure it was out.  Now all we get are the big firework shows that several of the citys do.


There are two very nice fireworks displays in my area and both take place on barges out in the water.  I gave up going to see those years ago.  The traffic just became to much to deal with and it could take hours to get home afterward.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 10:49:58 AM
Tom thanks!

I really miss the thread where we can complain about our husbands/significant others that BT started!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 28, 2006, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Beleive it or not Terry... after trying a zillion different coffee makers... the percolator is my fav... makes the best tasting coffee!!

I agree mrs. red.  I use the old pyrex coffee pot made of all glass except for the bottom and top of the basket.  Pyrex discontinued making these pots in the early 80's and I now get them on ebay.  They make the best tasting coffee.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
This morning Tom set up these forums for us:

Monkey Lounge
Missing Persons
Political

THANKS TOM!
 :lol:


How nice!  But I for one am tired of the posts disappearing.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 28, 2006, 10:50:27 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
This morning Tom set up these forums for us:

Monkey Lounge
Missing Persons
Political

THANKS TOM!
 :lol:


Yes!  Thanks so much Tom!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 10:51:48 AM
LOL-- I watched a show about the history of coffee in the U.S. recently on "The History Channel." They said that "perculating" is the absolute WORSE thing you can do to coffee because the brewed coffee is continuously washed over the grounds again and again. They said this "practice" from the 50's really alterd Americans appreciation for good coffee.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 10:51:49 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
This morning Tom set up these forums for us:

Monkey Lounge
Missing Persons
Political

THANKS TOM!
 :lol:


Good Morning Monks...one and all....thanks Tom

and aspecial thank you to Anna :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 10:53:20 AM
Quote from: "wreck"
LOL-- I watched a show about the history of coffee in the U.S. recently on "The History Channel." They said that "perculating" is the absolute WORSE thing you can do to coffee because the brewed coffee is continuously washed over the grounds again and again. They said this "practice" from the 50's really alterd Americans appreciation for good coffee.  :wink:


BUT I LOVE IT.................... :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:53:43 AM
Quote from: "wreck"
LOL-- I watched a show about the history of coffee in the U.S. recently on "The History Channel." They said that "perculating" is the absolute WORSE thing you can do to coffee because the brewed coffee is continuously washed over the grounds again and again. They said this "practice" from the 50's really alterd Americans appreciation for good coffee.  :wink:


I'm wondering how the French make coffee.  I remember it being strong but kind of rank.
The best coffee I've ever had was in Jamaica.  What do they use?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 10:53:59 AM
I read last night's posts.....and will refrain from commenting.....other than ldstlou posted this last night....THANK YOU lsstlou



Mrs Red,
I have never had the honor of speaking to you here at SM...could never get logged on to the old forum!! (computer illiterate!! haha) and feel priviledged to have been invited to the new forum. I have e-mailed Red in the past with my thoughts and obsevations...when I was unable to post...and was absolutely AMAZED!! that he always responded...in detail back, respected my input, and replied so quickly!! Just absolutely amazing to me!! The dedication that is put into this blog and Natalee's cause is beyond belief!! I have read from afar..before I "officially" became a member..and feel like I know so many people here!! The other person that just BLOWS me away is Klaas!! Just absolutely incredible to me!! Her knowledge!! her dedication..her wit...her intelligence!! You are just a group of people that are so above and beyond the norm!! You know...the thing that brings me comfort...probably brings so many people comfort...is that in a world that often seems so indifferent...here is a group I KNOW!!! would back me 110% if I ever..God forbid..I ever ran into a similar situation as the Twitty's and Holloway's...and who would fight the fight!! to find the answers!! You and Red and Klaas and Tom are such amazing people!! And you have done the impossible!! Drawn together people from all walks of life...from all over our country..the world!! together to fight a great fight!! Justice for Natalee!!
I imagine...as in life...it is very easy to take what you have done for granted..by some of the posters... you all just make it look so simple!! It does seem easy to take it all for granted!! But I just want to let you know...the e-mail I received explaining all that you guys did to get us back online...the travel..the hassles...the headaches!! That just brought it all home to me!! I mean...it is just INCREDIBLE!!!
And so Mrs Red...just want to take a moment and say THANK YOU!! You and your husband and Klaas and Tom...you all have given up any semblence of a "normal life" so we can have this place to come together and debate and share and "fight the good fight" You all are truely ANGELS!!! fighting the cause for our angel Natalee!! I can't even put into words what I feel for you and all the Monkeys...I need Easy right now to say it for me!! But you definately!!!! DEFINATELY!!! have every right to protest any disrespect towards your husband!! And although I don't know the politics here yet..I will trust your judgement on this one!! But I also know...this is the home of the most compassionate and caring people I have ever met in my life...and it will only take an apology...for you to welcome anyone right back in!!
Thanks you all!! You just REALLY inspire me!!
Lisa


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 10:55:42 AM
Late yesterday it was announced that SCRUX was shutting down.  Someone at another site suggested that maybe it was because of the lack of news.  Medleyrelays response was this:

Not true at all -- today scrux had over 900 people visiting the site!!


FYI - Scared Monkeys had over 6000 visitors yesterday, and it wasn't a busy day. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Quote from: "MominTN"
If you have no power, you need to get you a coffee pot that goes on a camping stove or a grill.


Damm thats right MOM  good thinkin LOL
   I had back surgery about 9 years ago now and i quit breathing on the OR Tabel and was on a ventalator for about a week  left me with nerve damage down legs and in underside of arms  Ulna nerve damage .
  I have a small farm here in Ohio and raise Horses.
  I am a retired PBR rider and that's what broke my back ( Meant Fallng off a Bull broke my back  LOL Not the Rodeo LOL)and thats why i take Methadone .
 Jerry from Ohio


I have often wondered what goes through a person’s mind when they look at thousands of snorting, bucking flesh and decide to get on the back of that potential train wreck! lol

Glad you made it through okay and have learned to manage the pain.

  Yup Easy I am a tough ol Bird  and ave adjusted pretty well only thing is it is ard for me to go see folks in the hosp or even watchen that on TV sometimes  I used to be a paramedic  here also .
   I started  rideing Bulls to impress the girls to be Honest when i was a lot younger, but o always say  " That getting on 2000lbs of Of Pissed off Hamburger was not the smartest thing I have ever done   LOL"
     Jerry


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 10:56:33 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
Quote from: "wreck"
LOL-- I watched a show about the history of coffee in the U.S. recently on "The History Channel." They said that "perculating" is the absolute WORSE thing you can do to coffee because the brewed coffee is continuously washed over the grounds again and again. They said this "practice" from the 50's really alterd Americans appreciation for good coffee.  :wink:


I'm wondering how the French make coffee.  I remember it being strong but kind of rank.
The best coffee I've ever had was in Jamaica.  What do they use?


I have a fresch press and it makes wonderful coffee......we frist saw it in Paris and the coffe was wonderful.

Most coffee served in Jamaica is a blend of of Blue Mointain coffees....Jamaican Blue Mountain cofee is IMO opinion some of the best in the world....and costs about $36.00 a lb here in the states.....but Widget's coffee ranks right up there with Blue Mountain...WONDERFUL!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Late yesterday it was announced that SCRUX was shutting down.  Someone at another site suggested that maybe it was because of the lack of news.  Medleyrelays response was this:

Not true at all -- today scrux had over 900 people visiting the site!!


FYI - Scared Monkeys had over 6000 visitors yesterday, and it wasn't a busy day. :wink:


Only the GOOD survive!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 10:57:56 AM
Plans for 4th:

Weather permitting, beach during the day...

Evening, back to my place with some friends.......

Can watch fireworks from my back yard.....

Everyone brings a dish, we eat, drink....and usually end up
by having a few cocktails and popping in Goodfell'as....

GOD BLESS AMERICA..... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 10:58:49 AM
Count me in!!!  


igsigs wrote:
klaasend wrote:

Ours aren't lost forever, we can get them back. It just might cost some money to do it though. But they are retrievable.

Red and Tom should take up a collection for specifically that. I know they don't want to...but i seen a few unsolicited offers already. It is something all can benefit from.


I have been meaning to discuss this but have been so busy and then the site crashed again.

I will put a post together tomorrow about this and the info retrival. I hope that all will get involved as we want to get all the archived info back up and then some that we never counted on.

I will discuss more on tomorrow


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:59:03 AM
My morning coffee is so enjoyable, I can't think of anything else that I would enjoy more when I wake up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Plans for 4th:

Weather permitting, beach during the day...

Evening, back to my place with some friends.......

Can watch fireworks from my back yard.....

Everyone brings a dish, we eat, drink....and usually end up
by having a few cocktails and popping in Goodfell'as....

GOD BLESS AMERICA..... :lol:


I am packing right now!!! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Plans for 4th:

Weather permitting, beach during the day...

Evening, back to my place with some friends.......

Can watch fireworks from my back yard.....

Everyone brings a dish, we eat, drink....and usually end up
by having a few cocktails and popping in Goodfell'as....

GOD BLESS AMERICA..... :lol:


I am packing right now!!! :wink:


Would love it!    :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 28, 2006, 11:01:09 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"

They outlawed personal fireworks here years ago.  I used to love to set them off but I was always prepared with a trash can full of water.  I would put each used firework in the trashcan to make sure it was out.  Now all we get are the big firework shows that several of the citys do.

I worked with a girl years ago and on one 4th her father cleaned up the fireworks and left them in a pile in a trash can.  What ever happened later on that evening it caught fire and the house went up and her parents and grandmother died in the fire.

Another year someone lit one of the jet star rockets and it landed in the gutter of my house.  When those rockets land sometimes they have fire coming from them and wouldn't you think the shingles on my house started to catch fire.  Thank god I was outside and my neighbors brother was over and hopped the fence and went on our patio roof where I handed him the hose.  If we weren't outside we would have never known what happened.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:01:17 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Plans for 4th:

Weather permitting, beach during the day...

Evening, back to my place with some friends.......

Can watch fireworks from my back yard.....

Everyone brings a dish, we eat, drink....and usually end up
by having a few cocktails and popping in Goodfell'as....

GOD BLESS AMERICA..... :lol:


I am packing right now!!! :wink:


Me too...except my darling husnamd decided to let his entire staff take Monday off....and he is working....ggggrrrrrrrrr

Would love it!    :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 11:02:44 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
Quote from: "wreck"
LOL-- I watched a show about the history of coffee in the U.S. recently on "The History Channel." They said that "perculating" is the absolute WORSE thing you can do to coffee because the brewed coffee is continuously washed over the grounds again and again. They said this "practice" from the 50's really alterd Americans appreciation for good coffee.  :wink:


I'm wondering how the French make coffee.  I remember it being strong but kind of rank.
The best coffee I've ever had was in Jamaica.  What do they use?


Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee.  

Ya get what  ya brew.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 11:03:40 AM
Fortunately for me, the city sets off the best fireworks less than a mile from my house in a lovely park ampitheater after an evening of music.  So we won't have any risks with fire here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"

They outlawed personal fireworks here years ago.  I used to love to set them off but I was always prepared with a trash can full of water.  I would put each used firework in the trashcan to make sure it was out.  Now all we get are the big firework shows that several of the citys do.

I worked with a girl years ago and on one 4th her father cleaned up the fireworks and left them in a pile in a trash can.  What ever happened later on that evening it caught fire and the house went up and her parents and grandmother died in the fire.

Another year someone lit one of the jet star rockets and it landed in the gutter of my house.  When those rockets land sometimes they have fire coming from them and wouldn't you think the shingles on my house started to catch fire.  Thank god I was outside and my neighbors brother was over and hopped the fence and went on our patio roof where I handed him the hose.  If we weren't outside we would have never known what happened.


thanks goodness you were out there....we live in Harris County where fireworks have not been banned....however we have a volunteer fire department only a 1/2 mile or so away...with a huge parking lot.....the firefighter supervise fireworks in the parking lot....so thank goodness no mishaps.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "MominTN"
Quote from: "wreck"
LOL-- I watched a show about the history of coffee in the U.S. recently on "The History Channel." They said that "perculating" is the absolute WORSE thing you can do to coffee because the brewed coffee is continuously washed over the grounds again and again. They said this "practice" from the 50's really alterd Americans appreciation for good coffee.  :wink:


I'm wondering how the French make coffee.  I remember it being strong but kind of rank.
The best coffee I've ever had was in Jamaica.  What do they use?


Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee.  

Ya get what  ya brew.


Hi peaches....yep it's good stuff!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 11:04:57 AM
Best fireworks I saw ...years ago...
on a boat jersey side, but could see the Macy's display they have over the river........

Breathtaking........

But I like sparklers and roman candles too!   lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 11:06:25 AM
Mr. Mermaid - feed his huge love of fire and danger on the 4th.

The boys and their friends spend a good deal of take home pay on fireworks.

Mr Mermaid has a remote control airplane that he mounts rockets and roman candles on and flies around.

the town fireworks are awesome right across the canal.

We are super careful about hosing everything when we are done.

I usually sweep trash for an hour!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 11:07:38 AM
I have our routine to see the fireworks down pat.  We have the best seats and are probably the first people home after it's over.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 28, 2006, 11:07:53 AM
Good morning friends...!   :)

This is a very OT use of the forum, but I need to know your opinion...
do you tip someone who cuts down trees....cost is $1100

...you can beat me up later....thanks....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 28, 2006, 11:08:02 AM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
I read last night's posts.....and will refrain from commenting.....other than ldstlou posted this last night....THANK YOU lsstlou



Mrs Red,
I have never had the honor of speaking to you here at SM...could never get logged on to the old forum!! (computer illiterate!! haha) and feel priviledged to have been invited to the new forum. I have e-mailed Red in the past with my thoughts and obsevations...when I was unable to post...and was absolutely AMAZED!! that he always responded...in detail back, respected my input, and replied so quickly!! Just absolutely amazing to me!! The dedication that is put into this blog and Natalee's cause is beyond belief!! I have read from afar..before I "officially" became a member..and feel like I know so many people here!! The other person that just BLOWS me away is Klaas!! Just absolutely incredible to me!! Her knowledge!! her dedication..her wit...her intelligence!! You are just a group of people that are so above and beyond the norm!! You know...the thing that brings me comfort...probably brings so many people comfort...is that in a world that often seems so indifferent...here is a group I KNOW!!! would back me 110% if I ever..God forbid..I ever ran into a similar situation as the Twitty's and Holloway's...and who would fight the fight!! to find the answers!! You and Red and Klaas and Tom are such amazing people!! And you have done the impossible!! Drawn together people from all walks of life...from all over our country..the world!! together to fight a great fight!! Justice for Natalee!!
I imagine...as in life...it is very easy to take what you have done for granted..by some of the posters... you all just make it look so simple!! It does seem easy to take it all for granted!! But I just want to let you know...the e-mail I received explaining all that you guys did to get us back online...the travel..the hassles...the headaches!! That just brought it all home to me!! I mean...it is just INCREDIBLE!!!
And so Mrs Red...just want to take a moment and say THANK YOU!! You and your husband and Klaas and Tom...you all have given up any semblence of a "normal life" so we can have this place to come together and debate and share and "fight the good fight" You all are truely ANGELS!!! fighting the cause for our angel Natalee!! I can't even put into words what I feel for you and all the Monkeys...I need Easy right now to say it for me!! But you definately!!!! DEFINATELY!!! have every right to protest any disrespect towards your husband!! And although I don't know the politics here yet..I will trust your judgement on this one!! But I also know...this is the home of the most compassionate and caring people I have ever met in my life...and it will only take an apology...for you to welcome anyone right back in!!
Thanks you all!! You just REALLY inspire me!!
Lisa


I wasn't going to post anymore, but since Sunny has brought this up I have one thing to say.

Rob has never said anything bad about Red or Mrs. Red to me. I did not see anything Mrs. Red posted prior regarding Rob, and I was responding to his "hello" to me when I posted last night.

I respect Red, Mrs. Red, and Rob.

Enough said.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 11:09:52 AM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Good morning friends...!   :)

This is a very OT use of the forum, but I need to know your opinion...
do you tip someone who cuts down trees....cost is $1100

...you can beat me up later....thanks....


I'm not sure but this is what I would do......

If it's the owner, nah I wouldn't tip him.
But if they are workers, yes I would slip them a little somethin somethin.

Don't know if that is proper or not, but that is my rule of thumb....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 28, 2006, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Mr. Mermaid - feed his huge love of fire and danger on the 4th.

The boys and their friends spend a good deal of take home pay on fireworks.

Mr Mermaid has a remote control airplane that he mounts rockets and roman candles on and flies around.

the town fireworks are awesome right across the canal.

We are super careful about hosing everything when we are done.

I usually sweep trash for an hour!


I bet that is a hoot!  We are always very careful about where we shoot off fireworks too.  Alot of the fireworks for the kids are the kind that don't go anywhere, just sparkle and whistle -

When I was a kid, my older brothers used to have bottle rocket fights - shooting them at each other (and me if I got in the way)  I look back at some of the things we did and wonder how we ever survived!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 11:11:13 AM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Good morning friends...!   :)

This is a very OT use of the forum, but I need to know your opinion...
do you tip someone who cuts down trees....cost is $1100

...you can beat me up later....thanks....


Only if they did something extra that wasn't in the quote.  Or if it took alot longer than they expected.  I only pay around $100-150 per tree and make them remove everything.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 28, 2006, 11:11:54 AM
Thanks Jacque....!   :)


Title: Missing Monkey
Post by: Sol Rosenberg on June 28, 2006, 11:13:26 AM
Anyone seen Hotshot on the site lately?

- Sol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 11:13:37 AM
I just can't see getting in an argument with anonymous posters.  Whatever happened with Rob and the Reds, that's their business.


Title: Re: Missing Monkey
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: "Sol Rosenberg"
Anyone seen Hotshot on the site lately?

- Sol

Hotshot posted last night - welcome back Sol!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 11:16:08 AM
Hope all of you have a nice day!  God bless!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 28, 2006, 11:16:40 AM
Thanks Mom.....trees are about 70-80 feet tall....one is a very large oak that was hit my lightening and is hanging over the garage.....I should really go out for a while and let them call me when it's over.....I hear every thud.... :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Mr. Mermaid - feed his huge love of fire and danger on the 4th.

The boys and their friends spend a good deal of take home pay on fireworks.

Mr Mermaid has a remote control airplane that he mounts rockets and roman candles on and flies around.

the town fireworks are awesome right across the canal.

We are super careful about hosing everything when we are done.

I usually sweep trash for an hour!


hi FM!!!  Mr. Mermaid must be THE MAN on your area on the 4th!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 11:21:26 AM
FYI - Easywriter's and Tylergal's stories have been moved to the Monkey Lounge.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:21:28 AM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Good morning friends...!   :)

This is a very OT use of the forum, but I need to know your opinion...
do you tip someone who cuts down trees....cost is $1100

...you can beat me up later....thanks....


hi Mere!!  WOW that's a whole lotta $$$ must be a big tree. I'd never beat you up. :wink:   And my answer would be no.....but I would provide cold water/tea etc. for them


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
I read last night's posts.....and will refrain from commenting.....other than ldstlou posted this last night....THANK YOU lsstlou



Mrs Red,
I have never had the honor of speaking to you here at SM...could never get logged on to the old forum!! (computer illiterate!! haha) and feel priviledged to have been invited to the new forum. I have e-mailed Red in the past with my thoughts and obsevations...when I was unable to post...and was absolutely AMAZED!! that he always responded...in detail back, respected my input, and replied so quickly!! Just absolutely amazing to me!! The dedication that is put into this blog and Natalee's cause is beyond belief!! I have read from afar..before I "officially" became a member..and feel like I know so many people here!! The other person that just BLOWS me away is Klaas!! Just absolutely incredible to me!! Her knowledge!! her dedication..her wit...her intelligence!! You are just a group of people that are so above and beyond the norm!! You know...the thing that brings me comfort...probably brings so many people comfort...is that in a world that often seems so indifferent...here is a group I KNOW!!! would back me 110% if I ever..God forbid..I ever ran into a similar situation as the Twitty's and Holloway's...and who would fight the fight!! to find the answers!! You and Red and Klaas and Tom are such amazing people!! And you have done the impossible!! Drawn together people from all walks of life...from all over our country..the world!! together to fight a great fight!! Justice for Natalee!!
I imagine...as in life...it is very easy to take what you have done for granted..by some of the posters... you all just make it look so simple!! It does seem easy to take it all for granted!! But I just want to let you know...the e-mail I received explaining all that you guys did to get us back online...the travel..the hassles...the headaches!! That just brought it all home to me!! I mean...it is just INCREDIBLE!!!
And so Mrs Red...just want to take a moment and say THANK YOU!! You and your husband and Klaas and Tom...you all have given up any semblence of a "normal life" so we can have this place to come together and debate and share and "fight the good fight" You all are truely ANGELS!!! fighting the cause for our angel Natalee!! I can't even put into words what I feel for you and all the Monkeys...I need Easy right now to say it for me!! But you definately!!!! DEFINATELY!!! have every right to protest any disrespect towards your husband!! And although I don't know the politics here yet..I will trust your judgement on this one!! But I also know...this is the home of the most compassionate and caring people I have ever met in my life...and it will only take an apology...for you to welcome anyone right back in!!
Thanks you all!! You just REALLY inspire me!!
Lisa


I wasn't going to post anymore, but since Sunny has brought this up I have one thing to say.

Rob has never said anything bad about Red or Mrs. Red to me. I did not see anything Mrs. Red posted prior regarding Rob, and I was responding to his "hello" to me when I posted last night.

I respect Red, Mrs. Red, and Rob.

Enough said.


hi Bt...this wasn't about anything except a beautiful, from the heart  post.  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 11:27:52 AM
Oh no not again!

BT Whatever happened just walk it off please!

SMOOCHIES!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 28, 2006, 11:28:50 AM
Sunny....thanks....there is a guy up about 60 feet in the oak....strapped to the tree and tying rope to each branch....cutting the branch and then sending the branch down to the ground...sometimes it hits the roof of the garage..... :shock:   I was told to expect estimates of $3000....the bottom line was...this was the only company that was insured...!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Sunny....thanks....there is a guy up about 60 feet in the oak....strapped to the tree and tying rope to each branch....cutting the branch and then sending the branch down to the ground...sometimes it hits the roof of the garage..... :shock:   I was told to expect estimates of $3000....the bottom line was...this was the only company that was insured...!!!


yikes......it sounds as though you are fortunate they are insure.... :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 11:33:04 AM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Late yesterday it was announced that SCRUX was shutting down.  Someone at another site suggested that maybe it was because of the lack of news.  Medleyrelays response was this:

Not true at all -- today scrux had over 900 people visiting the site!!


FYI - Scared Monkeys had over 6000 visitors yesterday, and it wasn't a busy day. :wink:


Only the GOOD survive!!!



I am posting from 'way behind and know that is usually foolish but wanted
to say that I just can't help sort of monitoring this statistic on sites I frequent a lot and SM usually has between eight and twelve thousand hits a day.  Just if you are curious. . . . . .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 28, 2006, 11:33:47 AM
Save my place....I am going for a ride until some of this is over..... :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: beachwego on June 28, 2006, 11:35:00 AM
Good Morning y'all!

Hiya Sunny!  

Is Jerry from Ohio still here?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Sunny....thanks....there is a guy up about 60 feet in the oak....strapped to the tree and tying rope to each branch....cutting the branch and then sending the branch down to the ground...sometimes it hits the roof of the garage..... :shock:   I was told to expect estimates of $3000....the bottom line was...this was the only company that was insured...!!!


Mere  - I would LEAVE the property right now!  lol  I couldn't watch that.  Otherwise, sip some wine ... but it's awful early for that.  Good luck!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: beachwego on June 28, 2006, 11:37:46 AM
That's a heck of a lot of hits!!  I am impressed!!!  Way to go Red!!!

Anna, how do you check to see how many hits a site has?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:38:06 AM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Save my place....I am going for a ride until some of this is over..... :)


hahahaha....you'd better stay and check your roof before they leave!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 11:38:17 AM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Mr. Mermaid - feed his huge love of fire and danger on the 4th.

The boys and their friends spend a good deal of take home pay on fireworks.

Mr Mermaid has a remote control airplane that he mounts rockets and roman candles on and flies around.

the town fireworks are awesome right across the canal.

We are super careful about hosing everything when we are done.

I usually sweep trash for an hour!


hi FM!!!  Mr. Mermaid must be THE MAN on your area on the 4th!!!


Hi MTWS!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:38:47 AM
Quote from: "beachwego"
Good Morning y'all!

Hiya Sunny!  

Is Jerry from Ohio still here?


Hi BEACHY!!!  I haven't seen him lately.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 11:40:12 AM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Sunny....thanks....there is a guy up about 60 feet in the oak....strapped to the tree and tying rope to each branch....cutting the branch and then sending the branch down to the ground...sometimes it hits the roof of the garage..... :shock:   I was told to expect estimates of $3000....the bottom line was...this was the only company that was insured...!!!


Mere  - I would LEAVE the property right now!  lol  I couldn't watch that.  Otherwise, sip some wine ... but it's awful early for that.  Good luck!



hi Beans.....the wine sounds like a good idea....or a morning mimosa!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 11:40:16 AM
Do i see thik lurking out there?

how you doin my man? :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "beachwego"
Good Morning y'all!

Hiya Sunny!  

Is Jerry from Ohio still here?


Hi BEACHY!!!  I haven't seen him lately.


He was here earlier telling us about riding a mad 2000 pound hamburger!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 11:42:06 AM
.
Beach!!  Good to see you!  {{HUGS}}


FLYINGMERMAID,
Yes, I would think SmartBargains or Overstocked would have some good
deals on coffee grinder/makers!  Glad to know someone else is a bargain
hunter.  I always look there FIRST when buying anything.   :wink:


EXPRESSO in BRAZIL!!  mmmm--coffee--mmmmmm!
My son and new daughter in law brought me back some Organic from Mexico in a brilliant lime green cloth bag.  Have not tried it yet but looks very interesting.  They also brought me real vanilla, another weakness of mine as that and coarse salt are among my few food preferences.

,


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: beachwego on June 28, 2006, 11:48:21 AM
Hey Easy!  

I saw Jerry's post about that!  I want to ask him if he knows my neice's hubby....he's been a champion bull rider for many years past....not now.   He is from Oklahoma though so they may not know each other...but its worth an ask!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 11:49:52 AM
I need to get some work done so I'll be lurking and not posting for a while.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: beachwego on June 28, 2006, 11:50:18 AM
Big hugs to you too, Anna!!!  

I feel like I've been away for a long time!  It's good to see old friends!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 11:51:10 AM
Quote from: "beachwego"
Hey Easy!  

I saw Jerry's post about that!  I want to ask him if he knows my neice's hubby....he's been a champion bull rider for many years past....not now.   He is from Oklahoma though so they may not know each other...but its worth an ask!


Ya never know!  I think they all travel on different rodeo circuits and probably travel all over the country.

When I was much younger I did some very crazy things, but getting on the back of a bull was never one of them!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Do i see thik lurking out there?

how you doin my man? :lol:



Doin GOOD Jacqueese,, thanks for askin,,,,,,,,you ??


God Bless Natalee,,Wherever She Is.................


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 11:58:04 AM
Quote from: "thik"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Do i see thik lurking out there?

how you doin my man? :lol:



Doin GOOD Jacqueese,, thanks for askin,,,,,,,,you ??


God Bless Natalee,,Wherever She Is.................


Well you know it is, what it is.....LOL

Looking forward to the long week end, that is fer sure~!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: beachwego on June 28, 2006, 11:59:39 AM
Yeah, its a crazy life too....Terry's body has been wracked to pieces many times....but its been a good life for them.  They've got a nice spread in OK now...and he trains future bull riders and raises the darn bulls!   I think he did some endorsements too back when he had the championships....like for Justins boots or Wrangler....but he doesnt ride any longer.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 12:04:52 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "thik"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Do i see thik lurking out there?

how you doin my man? :lol:



Doin GOOD Jacqueese,, thanks for askin,,,,,,,,you ??


God Bless Natalee,,Wherever She Is.................


Well you know it is, what it is.....LOL

Looking forward to the long week end, that is fer sure~!



''so she told me we couldn't afford beer anymore and I'd have to quit drinking
Then I caught her spending $65 on make-up.
I asked how come I had to give up stuff and not her.
She said she need the  make-up to look pretty for me...
I told her that's what the beer was for...............................................


''I don't think she's coming back


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 12:05:04 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Sunny....thanks....there is a guy up about 60 feet in the oak....strapped to the tree and tying rope to each branch....cutting the branch and then sending the branch down to the ground...sometimes it hits the roof of the garage..... :shock:   I was told to expect estimates of $3000....the bottom line was...this was the only company that was insured...!!!


Mere  - I would LEAVE the property right now!  lol  I couldn't watch that.  Otherwise, sip some wine ... but it's awful early for that.  Good luck!



hi Beans.....the wine sounds like a good idea....or a morning mimosa!!!


I'll be right over for that Mimosa Sunny!   :lol:

Oh - you were talking to Mere?   :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Sunny....thanks....there is a guy up about 60 feet in the oak....strapped to the tree and tying rope to each branch....cutting the branch and then sending the branch down to the ground...sometimes it hits the roof of the garage..... :shock:   I was told to expect estimates of $3000....the bottom line was...this was the only company that was insured...!!!


Mere  - I would LEAVE the property right now!  lol  I couldn't watch that.  Otherwise, sip some wine ... but it's awful early for that.  Good luck!



hi Beans.....the wine sounds like a good idea....or a morning mimosa!!!


I'll be right over for that Mimosa Sunny!   :lol:

Oh - you were talking to Mere?   :oops:


both of you!!!  I am serving them on the 4th...but we could certainly start EARLY!!!   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 12:11:58 PM
Quote from: "thik"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "thik"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Do i see thik lurking out there?

how you doin my man? :lol:



Doin GOOD Jacqueese,, thanks for askin,,,,,,,,you ??


God Bless Natalee,,Wherever She Is.................


Well you know it is, what it is.....LOL

Looking forward to the long week end, that is fer sure~!



''so she told me we couldn't afford beer anymore and I'd have to quit drinking
Then I caught her spending $65 on make-up.
I asked how come I had to give up stuff and not her.
She said she need the  make-up to look pretty for me...
I told her that's what the beer was for...............................................


''I don't think she's coming back


Tee hee! Need a good joke on a Wednesday...

Lemme see if I can come up with one.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 12:12:18 PM
.
I am staying home for the weekend because the fireworks scare my dogs so will comfort them as best I can.   :D They are not much on that kind of celebration.  But I may bring my mom over for a visit, always an adventure.  And plan to fix ribs soaked in vodka on the smoker, slaw, baked beans, etc.  Will be nice.  

I am worried about my kids in the D.C. area.  Anyone from up that way and with any inside information on the Fairfax-Arlington, VA flood conditions?   :(

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: blah on June 28, 2006, 12:14:13 PM
Ok, so I just read something about this new witness stating there he saw Joran use some kind of cable that was in the water, and when the police checked it out, there really was a cable there.

Is there any more details about this, that is all I know about it, never heard of it before.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 12:14:32 PM
Yo thik:

A guy meets a girl on the boardwalk and she invites him back to her place for the night. When they go into her bedroom, he notices all these fluffy toys. There's hundreds of them, fluffy toys on top of the wardrobe, fluffy toys on the bookshelf and window sill, there's more on the floor, and of course fluffy toys all over the bed.

Later, after they've had sex, he turns to her and asks, ''So, how was I?''

She says, ''Well, you can take anything from the bottom shelf.''

A truly jersey joke.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 12:15:37 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Ok, so I just read something about this new witness stating there he saw Joran use some kind of cable that was in the water, and when the police checked it out, there really was a cable there.

Is there any more details about this, that is all I know about it, never heard of it before.


That's what JQK said last night on Nancy Grace and that's all we know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 12:16:17 PM
A husband and wife are getting ready for bed. The wife is standing in front of a full-length mirror taking a hard look at herself.

"You know, dear," she says, "I look in the mirror, and I see an old woman. My face is all wrinkled, my bosom is barely above my waist, and my bottom is hanging out a mile. I've got fat legs, and my arms are all flabby." She turns to her husband and says, "Tell me something positive to make me feel better about myself."
 
He studies hard for a moment thinking about it and then says in a soft, thoughtful voice, "Well, there's nothing wrong with your eyesight."

Services for the husband will be held Saturday morning at 10:30 at St. Anselm's Memorial Chapel.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Yo thik:

A guy meets a girl on the boardwalk and she invites him back to her place for the night. When they go into her bedroom, he notices all these fluffy toys. There's hundreds of them, fluffy toys on top of the wardrobe, fluffy toys on the bookshelf and window sill, there's more on the floor, and of course fluffy toys all over the bed.

Later, after they've had sex, he turns to her and asks, ''So, how was I?''

She says, ''Well, you can take anything from the bottom shelf.''

A truly jersey joke.....



in minnesota it's 'true',,, I got the ''middle shelf''   :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 12:20:40 PM
Quote from: "thik"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Yo thik:

A guy meets a girl on the boardwalk and she invites him back to her place for the night. When they go into her bedroom, he notices all these fluffy toys. There's hundreds of them, fluffy toys on top of the wardrobe, fluffy toys on the bookshelf and window sill, there's more on the floor, and of course fluffy toys all over the bed.

Later, after they've had sex, he turns to her and asks, ''So, how was I?''

She says, ''Well, you can take anything from the bottom shelf.''

A truly jersey joke.....



in minnesota it's 'true',,, I got the ''middle shelf''   :oops:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Ok, so I just read something about this new witness stating there he saw Joran use some kind of cable that was in the water, and when the police checked it out, there really was a cable there.

Is there any more details about this, that is all I know about it, never heard of it before.


is this the same guy with the ''alledged'' oondom,,,?  You'd think they'd seize it a little quicker then this,, regardless what country it's in...

i'd bet he meets with an ''unfortunate demise'' in jail before this is over....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: blah on June 28, 2006, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "blah"
Ok, so I just read something about this new witness stating there he saw Joran use some kind of cable that was in the water, and when the police checked it out, there really was a cable there.

Is there any more details about this, that is all I know about it, never heard of it before.


That's what JQK said last night on Nancy Grace and that's all we know.


so we dont know if they checked it for any kind of trace evidence? Nancy let him spill the beans on this this with no follow up questions?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: "thik"
Quote from: "blah"
Ok, so I just read something about this new witness stating there he saw Joran use some kind of cable that was in the water, and when the police checked it out, there really was a cable there.

Is there any more details about this, that is all I know about it, never heard of it before.


is this the same guy with the ''alledged'' oondom,,,?  You'd think they'd seize it a little quicker then this,, regardless what country it's in...

i'd bet he meets with an ''unfortunate demise'' in jail before this is over....


We know the "cable" was sent to NFI for testing a long time ago and no word back on it.  Also, no confirmation of other evidence like a condom or piece of clothing.

According to JQK it appears he's being detained because he's illegal.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 12:26:44 PM
OK, now I really have to get working - back to lurking.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 12:35:29 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"


We know the "cable" was sent to NFI for testing a long time ago and no word back on it.  Also, no confirmation of other evidence like a condom or piece of clothing.

According to JQK it appears he's being detained because he's illegal.


didn't JQK also mention a piece of pipe?  So how many piees of evidence are there?

a piece of pipe?
a piece of cable, sent to the NFI nearly 2 months ago
a condom, who know where?
a piece of clothing that Beth would recognize, but hasn't see yet?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 12:36:57 PM
Hi everyone!

Easy, that is one funny joke but how wicked too  :lol:  :lol: you have to duck and run after that one!

Sunny, can I have a mimosa pretty please?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Hi everyone!

Easy, that is one funny joke but how wicked too  :lol:  :lol: you have to duck and run after that one!

Sunny, can I have a mimosa pretty please?


I thought we were having theme jokes today! lol

Well, I think it is close enough for lunch!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 12:45:34 PM
Easy,

theme jokes, I did need the laugh. this is pretty risque for me to post but I have a birthday in a few weeks so oh well -- I can stand in the shower with my arms over my head and feel 21 again  :lol:  :lol:

sigh, the ravages of time.........SO unfair for us girls !! Hey, why don't we measure some droop on the guys?  :wink:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 12:50:26 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Hi everyone!

Easy, that is one funny joke but how wicked too  :lol:  :lol: you have to duck and run after that one!

Sunny, can I have a mimosa pretty please?


Coming right up!!!  You get a double!!! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 12:51:24 PM
Nice to see ya, None.  How's Mr. None?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 12:55:12 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Easy,

theme jokes, I did need the laugh. this is pretty risque for me to post but I have a birthday in a few weeks so oh well -- I can stand in the shower with my arms over my head and feel 21 again  :lol:  :lol:

sigh, the ravages of time.........SO unfair for us girls !! Hey, why don't we measure some droop on the guys? :wink:  :lol:  :lol:


 :shock:  :shock:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 12:55:43 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Nice to see ya, None.  How's Mr. None?


Hi Peaches-

It's great to see you posting so much and feeling a bit better, I have a special Peaches prayer I say every night now !

He's holding his own, had a really rough week but he's a fighter, only two more radiation sessions and one week of chemo -- then two weeks off!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 12:57:41 PM
Morning Monkeys.  I realize I am naive and generally believe that people are who they tell me they are.  I've always been upright and honest, as a person.  I really believe most of the people in this forum are, also.   :D   Anyway, I read this article http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/06/did_nvidia_hire_an_a.html and thought I would pass it along.  

It's made me think twice about some posters on this and other boards, and encouraged me to not react as quickly to inflammatory ideas or those I disagree with.  I have a tendency to respond too quickly sometimes when people offer ideas that are just "out there."  I need to stop, think, and respond rationally, or not at all.  Now that the judge's decision is due, we might find more "trolls," and we see people actually paid to promote certain points of view on the message boards.  Abhorrent to me as this is, it was an eye-opener to realize that it does occur.  Just passing along the ideas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 12:59:24 PM
None, good to see you here today.  Peaches, my friend, how are you this morning?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 12:59:34 PM
None, what did you think of the cottage cheese stuff I sent ya?  My DH knows the big ole scientific explanation, some thing about sulphur based protein, yada, yada, yada.  I eat that stuff every single day..usually while reading here first thing in the morning.  He's convinced it's good for my immune system.... and that's important since chemo just kicks your butt. Anyway, y'all are constantly in my thoughts and prayers.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 01:00:59 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
None, good to see you here today.  Peaches, my friend, how are you this morning?


I'm excellent.  The weather is lovely.  I'm not too busy at work and I'm here with y'all.  Who could ask for anything more?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 01:03:08 PM
Hi AZlady-

That is good advice, some things I've had to learn the hard way  :lol:

Peaches-

First of all, I am a big believer in diet and I also LOVE cottage cheese ! I began changing his diet right away, I also have an email I'll forward to you from someone who employs a macrobiotic diet and was just told she's NED !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 01:06:17 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Morning Monkeys.  I realize I am naive and generally believe that people are who they tell me they are.  I've always been upright and honest, as a person.  I really believe most of the people in this forum are, also.   :D   Anyway, I read this article http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/06/did_nvidia_hire_an_a.html and thought I would pass it along.  

It's made me think twice about some posters on this and other boards, and encouraged me to not react as quickly to inflammatory ideas or those I disagree with.  I have a tendency to respond too quickly sometimes when people offer ideas that are just "out there."  I need to stop, think, and respond rationally, or not at all.  Now that the judge's decision is due, we might find more "trolls," and we see people actually paid to promote certain points of view on the message boards.  Abhorrent to me as this is, it was an eye-opener to realize that it does occur.  Just passing along the ideas.

I have no doubt this happens a lot! Some posters are very subtle about posting positive posts and gaining trust -- then they start slowly slipping in little elements and doubts to pursuade some on the fence.  This was an effective tactic in the first few months -- most of us see right through it now!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 01:06:27 PM
Afternoon, Monkeys.

Good to see you here, Peaches, and wishing you the best for your upcoming treatments.  You do have the right attitude.

None, glad to hear Mr. None is holding his own.  You know we hold you both up in prayer as we do Peaches.

Jacqui, thanks so much for the transcriptions and prayers for Uncle Mike.  I think of you often and am interested in following this to its finale.

Beachwego, so good to see you here.

Yes, Klaas is the best.  I don't know if Darleen's tiara would fit Klaas but she certainly is worthy.

Good to see Spooky back here, but where is our Snoopy?  Vacationing, still I bet.

Easy, you really can get a good idea of what transpired on Rita's program if you read Jacqui's transcripts.  She and San deserve our undying gratitutde for these great transripts they do.

Anna, I hope your children will be fine in the DC area.  I understand about the dogs and fireworks.  We always had to bring ours inside although she was an outside dog who hated the confines except during fireworks and electrical storms.

I see Sunny is serving up from the bar.  I thought she had skipped out on us.

Mermaid is doing the cooking, the fireworks and Sunny serving the drinks.  How good is that!

Blah, I think you know as much as we.  Just one of those little "clues" that JQK dropped.

Nancy was great, and yes, I agree with all, Bo was doing his job but he probably was thinking of the horrific events Natalee suffered at the hands of big Baby Huey, and how his own little girls could have been the victim.  The ABC producer should have been arrested for obstruction and assault.

Greta is following orders from her friends, Steve Cohen, Steve Brille and a certain Dutch attorney who runs an opposing, lying blog via his own mother where MedleyRelay is the star author of phony letters.

Mrs. Red, I like those glass percolators also.  I broke my last one.  I have one of those French press thingies that we got years ago and one of my children who is not a regular coffee drinker always gets it out and makes coffee when here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: blah on June 28, 2006, 01:08:05 PM
What in the hell do we even have a goddam Senate for?  What a group of incompetant usless bunch of trash.  These morons cannot get anything done. Nothing.  Not even when they (Dems AND Reps) both want the same outcome in the end.

Both parties want to make burning the flag a punshiable offense.  But, because they cannot decide if it should be through a law or through a constitutional amendment, nothing happens.  So, because this group of idiots cannot come to an agreement on something as simple as making it a punishable offense to byurn a flag, it is still legal to do so on the very soil that thousands and thousands of real heros died to defend that very same flag.

What a disgrace.  What a waste of time, space, and our tax dollars on these freaking morons.

These jagoffs cant get a friggen thing done and it boils my blood.  sorry.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:08:08 PM
None and Peaches, what we put in our bodies does have a huge effect on our wellness, doesn't it?  Now, why can't we do something about that while we are well, instead of waiting till we aren't well to act?  I'm a terrible example of that--sitting here drinking a PepsiOne and just finished breakfast of eggs and toast with butter.  I need a guard who only lets me put the right things in my mouth and whips me until I exercise enough!!   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
None and Peaches, what we put in our bodies does have a huge effect on our wellness, doesn't it?  Now, why can't we do something about that while we are well, instead of waiting till we aren't well to act?  I'm a terrible example of that--sitting here drinking a PepsiOne and just finished breakfast of eggs and toast with butter.  I need a guard who only lets me put the right things in my mouth and whips me until I exercise enough!!   :lol:


AZLady, I hate to tell you this, but my grandfather ate six fried eggs for breakfast each morning with pork, home-made biscuits and a ton of butter.  Unfortunately, he never had an illness in his life but a truck did hit him when he was 101 on his way to open his store.  He had left home without breakfast that morning, as he had overslept.  The truck blew a tire and hit my grandfather, an 18-wheeler.  He lived 2-3 days but it was awful that he spent his last really well day without his half-dozen fried eggs.  I guess if he had been eating right he might have lived longer. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 01:13:10 PM
tyler-

So good to see you, you always have the best posts !! Glad to see you are feeling well enough to post, I do worry about you, sending you hugs!!!

I must flee for now, days are so busy this week but hope someone can discover why we hear these obscure criticisms of Aruba by the dutch occasionally, yet no one seems to have any tour de force around that nebulous NFI ?????????

Something is not right there, the dutch are complicit and I don't think I'll ever be convinced otherwise.

Everyone have a great day, will try to check in later !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
None and Peaches, what we put in our bodies does have a huge effect on our wellness, doesn't it?  Now, why can't we do something about that while we are well, instead of waiting till we aren't well to act?  I'm a terrible example of that--sitting here drinking a PepsiOne and just finished breakfast of eggs and toast with butter.  I need a guard who only lets me put the right things in my mouth and whips me until I exercise enough!!   :lol:


AZLady, I hate to tell you this, but my grandfather ate six fried eggs for breakfast each morning with pork, home-made biscuits and a ton of butter.  Unfortunately, he never had an illness in his life but a truck did hit him when he was 101 on his way to open his store.  He had left home without breakfast that morning, as he had overslept.  The truck blew a tire and hit my grandfather, an 18-wheeler.  He lived 2-3 days but it was awful that he spent his last really well day without his half-dozen fried eggs.  I guess if he had been eating right he might have lived longer. :lol:


{{HUGS}} to you Tyler!  How did you know I was beating myself up today for being so "bad?"  Don't know if that's true or not, but it makes me feel so much better!  I don't eat the pork, so hope I'm not negating the benefits of this salubrious diet (but I get in nearly everything else!)   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 01:18:39 PM
Better butter than margarine.  Nothing good in margarine.  Quit buying it ages ago.

Eggs are not that bad either. I think all that cholesterol nonsense is just that.  You need some cholesterol for your brain to work.  

The more processed it is, the less nutritional value it has.  Off my little soapbox now.

Geez, I have got to get some work done.  It's nearly time to leave already!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 01:18:57 PM
AZLady-

Trust me, we aren't shining examples for diet savvy either, it's just that his liver is so compromised we had to move to protect it with diet.

tyler is correct too, genetics play a large role. Also please know hubby's immune system was compromised dramatically via the anthrax/nerve gas vaccinations he received in Desert Storm along with breathing the particles from the oil fires in Kuwait for many months.

So don't take this as an example which is typical, his immune system was repeatedly diminished which likely created this cancer.

Take care again everyone - must fly !!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:19:07 PM
I was telling Tyler by email that I really believe there are political struggles going on in Aruba of which we only see the tip of the iceburg.  I think the political situation there is precarious.  We've seen indications of it with Oduber's associations with Fidel Castro and Chavez, Venezuela's leader.  Venezuela would love to swallow up Aruba, and the Dutch should rightly be very afraid for their fortunes and their homes should that happen.  They would then be the illegals on their own island.  Chavez is rapidly turning Venezuela from a republic into a dictatorship and would like to get his hands on the Aruban refinery for his oil. He'd also like to get rid of the FOL we have on Aruba so he can run his drugs more readily and easily.  I think Chavez is promoting the political turmoil, and it's becoming an obvious struggle now.  Oduber has been given false promises, and the current climate of corruption feeds into Chavez's plans.  I really think the Netherlands and USA need to act soon, or the situation is going to get more difficult and more visible.  I'm sure Jossy is aware of what's happening and working for the best for Aruba, but he'll need some big help.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
AZLady-

Trust me, we aren't shining examples for diet savvy either, it's just that his liver is so compromised we had to move to protect it with diet.

tyler is correct too, genetics play a large role. Also please know hubby's immune system was compromised dramatically via the anthrax/nerve gas vaccinations he received in Desert Storm along with breathing the particles from the oil fires in Kuwait for many months.

So don't take this as an example which is typical, his immune system was repeatedly diminished which likely created this cancer.

Take care again everyone - must fly !!!


See ya, None.  Take care and we're praying for you both.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
My grandfather loved pork, British.  My grandmother could not eat pork and the rest of the family did not, so he ate our share.  We all grew up being non-pork eaters but it sure does smell good.   :lol:

My grandfather was kind of a legend in our area.  One of the ladies in our town had heard about the way my grandfather ate and how much and she was telling me recently that she had heard about that from her father and mother, but she went on to say, "They said he worked about 18 hours out of 24, doing heavy labor, even to stocking his own grocery shelves and walked to his store each morning which was over a mile from his house, and walked home each night when he closed, so the exercise was the difference."

He also farmed 50 acres of land with little help until he was in his late 80s.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Easy,

theme jokes, I did need the laugh. this is pretty risque for me to post but I have a birthday in a few weeks so oh well -- I can stand in the shower with my arms over my head and feel 21 again  :lol:  :lol:

sigh, the ravages of time.........SO unfair for us girls !! Hey, why don't we measure some droop on the guys?  :wink:  :lol:  :lol:


ROTFLMAO!!!  NONE I love you!   LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
My grandfather loved pork, British.  My grandmother could not eat pork and the rest of the family did not, so he ate our share.  We all grew up being non-pork eaters but it sure does smell good.   :lol:

My grandfather was kind of a legend in our area.  One of the ladies in our town had heard about the way my grandfather ate and how much and she was telling me recently that she had heard about that from her father and mother, but she went on to say, "They said he worked about 18 hours out of 24, doing heavy labor, even to stocking his own grocery shelves and walked to his store each morning which was over a mile from his house, and walked home each night when he closed, so the exercise was the difference."

He also farmed 50 acres of land with little help until he was in his late 80s.


What an admirable man.  Energy and a self-starter, a man after my own heart.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 01:24:43 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
None, what did you think of the cottage cheese stuff I sent ya?  My DH knows the big ole scientific explanation, some thing about sulphur based protein, yada, yada, yada.  I eat that stuff every single day..usually while reading here first thing in the morning.  He's convinced it's good for my immune system.... and that's important since chemo just kicks your butt. Anyway, y'all are constantly in my thoughts and prayers.



Peaches,
I have read about this diet, too, and sure think it worth a try!  I often think it is our own bodies that fight off this dread disease instead of the treatments but who can take such a risk of finding out!  But it sure made me include more cottage cheese in my diet and now I have forgotten the rest of it.  If you have it at hand, would you email it to me to have?  Have a niece in midst of chemo would like to share it with her.  If not convenient, is OK.  Email in profile.

TIA!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Morning Monkeys.  I realize I am naive and generally believe that people are who they tell me they are.  I've always been upright and honest, as a person.  I really believe most of the people in this forum are, also.   :D   Anyway, I read this article http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/06/did_nvidia_hire_an_a.html and thought I would pass it along.  

It's made me think twice about some posters on this and other boards, and encouraged me to not react as quickly to inflammatory ideas or those I disagree with.  I have a tendency to respond too quickly sometimes when people offer ideas that are just "out there."  I need to stop, think, and respond rationally, or not at all.  Now that the judge's decision is due, we might find more "trolls," and we see people actually paid to promote certain points of view on the message boards.  Abhorrent to me as this is, it was an eye-opener to realize that it does occur.  Just passing along the ideas.


thanks for the link.....I have always believed this...but became positive when I saw some posters on Natalee related boards!! I can personally think of one person who I really liked and admired......who suddenly flipped over....I was shocked....but soon came to understand that many people can be bought for $$$ or other things to post in a certain way.....so sad.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 01:28:37 PM
SunnyinTX, money talks, doesn't it?  It is sad that some people's moral compass is so off that they can be bought for a paltry price.  There were many.

Wreck, you knew some of them also, but you may not have known it.  My DH used to post with you and liked you.   I will tell you one day who it was.  You liked him too. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 28, 2006, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Better butter than margarine.  Nothing good in margarine.  Quit buying it ages ago.

Eggs are not that bad either. I think all that cholesterol nonsense is just that.  You need some cholesterol for your brain to work.  
The more processed it is, the less nutritional value it has.  Off my little soapbox now.

Geez, I have got to get some work done.  It's nearly time to leave already!

COOL....that means that our very own BT' must be really smart and we need her BACK HERE ASAP!! I believe she said the other day her Cholesterol was over 400!! COME BACK BT......I miss your posts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 01:30:29 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Afternoon, Monkeys.



I see Sunny is serving up from the bar.  I thought she had skipped out on us.

Mrs. Red, I like those glass percolators also.  I broke my last one.  I have one of those French press thingies that we got years ago and one of my children who is not a regular coffee drinker always gets it out and makes coffee when here.


Hi Tyler!!!  Nope....NEVER gonna happen!!! Actually I hurt my arm early last week and since I am not a good typist with both hands I am even worse with one in a sling!!  SO I have been reading mostly!

I too love my french coffee  press!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:31:05 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Morning Monkeys.  I realize I am naive and generally believe that people are who they tell me they are.  I've always been upright and honest, as a person.  I really believe most of the people in this forum are, also.   :D   Anyway, I read this article http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/06/did_nvidia_hire_an_a.html and thought I would pass it along.  

It's made me think twice about some posters on this and other boards, and encouraged me to not react as quickly to inflammatory ideas or those I disagree with.  I have a tendency to respond too quickly sometimes when people offer ideas that are just "out there."  I need to stop, think, and respond rationally, or not at all.  Now that the judge's decision is due, we might find more "trolls," and we see people actually paid to promote certain points of view on the message boards.  Abhorrent to me as this is, it was an eye-opener to realize that it does occur.  Just passing along the ideas.


thanks for the link.....I have always believed this...but became positive when I saw some posters on Natalee related boards!! I can personally think of one person who I really liked and admired......who suddenly flipped over....I was shocked....but soon came to understand that many people can be bought for $$$ or other things to post in a certain way.....so sad.


Sunny, I was duped by these people, also, and took it personally at first.  Now I realize it's just their business...but what a business.  Totally unethical and slimey, to me, but perfectly legal, I suppose.  Some websites that have been pro-Joran (and anti-Holloway) have gone down recently, and I wonder if the finances have something to to with this.  In other words, were they paid to put up these sites and promote these ideas?  Now that the people who back them no longer see their benefit, they are off-line.  Very bad business, in my opinion.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 01:34:09 PM
I still believe most people are who they say they are.  Those that have surprised me, I just ignore.  I assume that there are posters that have an incentive to post negatively on the case and I think most of those have seen that it didn't work.. Those that still post negatively are just mean and hateful people and the ones that had incentive are gone, it didn't work.  When someone says "let me be honest with you"  this gives me a red flag because I think why do you need to say that.. I'm kinda the last person to figure out someone motives but when I do, I just move on..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 01:34:24 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
I was telling Tyler by email that I really believe there are political struggles going on in Aruba of which we only see the tip of the iceburg.  I think the political situation there is precarious.  We've seen indications of it with Oduber's associations with Fidel Castro and Chavez, Venezuela's leader.  Venezuela would love to swallow up Aruba, and the Dutch should rightly be very afraid for their fortunes and their homes should that happen.  They would then be the illegals on their own island.  Chavez is rapidly turning Venezuela from a republic into a dictatorship and would like to get his hands on the Aruban refinery for his oil. He'd also like to get rid of the FOL we have on Aruba so he can run his drugs more readily and easily.  I think Chavez is promoting the political turmoil, and it's becoming an obvious struggle now.  Oduber has been given false promises, and the current climate of corruption feeds into Chavez's plans.  I really think the Netherlands and USA need to act soon, or the situation is going to get more difficult and more visible.  I'm sure Jossy is aware of what's happening and working for the best for Aruba, but he'll need some big help.

I agree! I went on a diatribe last week about this. This is much bigger than a simple murder case in Aruba. This cover-up is very high reaching and most likely involves Aruba's Soverignity with The Netherlands. I firmly believe that is why our State Department and FBI are treating this with kid gloves. Don't get me started!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:35:55 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I still believe most people are who they say they are.  Those that have surprised me, I just ignore.  I assume that there are posters that have an incentive to post negatively on the case and I think most of those have seen that it didn't work.. Those that still post negatively are just mean and hateful people and the ones that had incentive are gone, it didn't work.  When someone says "let me be honest with you"  this gives me a red flag because I think why do you need to say that.. I'm kinda the last person to figure out someone motives but when I do, I just move on..


Smart man.  I've found that when someone prefaces a comment with, "Trust me..." that I seldom find reason to trust.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:37:38 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "AZLady"
I was telling Tyler by email that I really believe there are political struggles going on in Aruba of which we only see the tip of the iceburg.  I think the political situation there is precarious.  We've seen indications of it with Oduber's associations with Fidel Castro and Chavez, Venezuela's leader.  Venezuela would love to swallow up Aruba, and the Dutch should rightly be very afraid for their fortunes and their homes should that happen.  They would then be the illegals on their own island.  Chavez is rapidly turning Venezuela from a republic into a dictatorship and would like to get his hands on the Aruban refinery for his oil. He'd also like to get rid of the FOL we have on Aruba so he can run his drugs more readily and easily.  I think Chavez is promoting the political turmoil, and it's becoming an obvious struggle now.  Oduber has been given false promises, and the current climate of corruption feeds into Chavez's plans.  I really think the Netherlands and USA need to act soon, or the situation is going to get more difficult and more visible.  I'm sure Jossy is aware of what's happening and working for the best for Aruba, but he'll need some big help.

I agree! I went on a diatribe last week about this. This is much bigger than a simple murder case in Aruba. This cover-up is very high reaching and most likely involves Aruba's Soverignity with The Netherlands. I firmly believe that is why our State Department and FBI are treating this with kid gloves. Don't get me started!


Wreck, do you think this is what Charles Croes was referring to when he said, "This will have far reaching effects. God help us all."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 01:40:18 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
SunnyinTX, money talks, doesn't it?  It is sad that some people's moral compass is so off that they can be bought for a paltry price.  There were many.

Wreck, you knew some of them also, but you may not have known it.  My DH used to post with you and liked you.   I will tell you one day who it was.  You liked him too. :wink:


Yes, a gentleman and a scholar if ever there was one, your DH.   :D
Dan's flip was one of the more shocking ones for me for I really do not think that was his plan in the beginning.  

Wreck, we did learn lots the hard way for like you, I now can often spot them because few have the real patience to establish themselves before showing their true colors.   :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:40:28 PM
However, seeing these pro-Joran websites go down now and the deafening silence of Taco and Steve Cohen gives me more hope and positive vibes about this case than I have felt in a long time!!   :D  :D  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I still believe most people are who they say they are.  Those that have surprised me, I just ignore.  I assume that there are posters that have an incentive to post negatively on the case and I think most of those have seen that it didn't work.. Those that still post negatively are just mean and hateful people and the ones that had incentive are gone, it didn't work.  When someone says "let me be honest with you"  this gives me a red flag because I think why do you need to say that.. I'm kinda the last person to figure out someone motives but when I do, I just move on..


Hi, Terry, my squirrely little friend.  Thank you for reading my rose story.  I would be happy to serve you lemonade or roses anyday.  You just let me know and we will do battle with the skeeters and snakes, and you will have your very own personal crystal glass of Lemonade.

It is unfortunate that there are mean people in the world, but you are not one of them, my friend, and I am so happy to know that and to know you. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 01:42:51 PM
I am exactly who I say I am.  Always have been.  Always will be.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
I am exactly who I say I am.  Always have been.  Always will be.


A wonderful lady with a super attitude and a big heart, smells like peaches to me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
SunnyinTX, money talks, doesn't it?  It is sad that some people's moral compass is so off that they can be bought for a paltry price.  There were many.

Wreck, you knew some of them also, but you may not have known it.  My DH used to post with you and liked you.   I will tell you one day who it was.  You liked him too. :wink:


Yes, a gentleman and a scholar if ever there was one, your DH.   :D
Dan's flip was one of the more shocking ones for me for I really do not think that was his plan in the beginning.  

Wreck, we did learn lots the hard way for like you, I now can often spot them because few have the real patience to establish themselves before showing their true colors.   :evil:


Anna, if these people are paid, when they stop being useful, then the paychecks stop.  So, they really don't have any more time than their employer gives them, usually not enough time before showing their true colors.  Time and patience always shows the truth.  We have all three here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
SunnyinTX, money talks, doesn't it?  It is sad that some people's moral compass is so off that they can be bought for a paltry price.  There were many.

Wreck, you knew some of them also, but you may not have known it.  My DH used to post with you and liked you.   I will tell you one day who it was.  You liked him too. :wink:


I know Tyler and it really is sad......we many never be rich...but I know when I go to sleep at night my mind, heart and soul are just fine.  Just like yours and many other who have been here from the beginning and will be here til whenever.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Shizaru on June 28, 2006, 01:43:58 PM
The weight/cable is the best evidence both for and against Carlos' story. For, because it was found where he said it would be.  Against, because it's not plausable that it could have gotten there the way he apparently describes.  First, Joran just happens to have weight/cable in the car, then he is able to swim weighted down body far enough out that when it eventually surfaces it doesn't drift back to shore?

I am very skeptical of Carlos' story- altho I think something similar to what he describes may very well be what happened, except on the Marriott beach not Arashi beach.

However, say that Carlos is telling the truth.

Following two scenarios are both consistent with Carlos' story, phone/computer records, and polis van conersation (in which Joran made comments to 2K indicating he either thought, or was pretending to think, that they harmed Natalee, meaning 2K must have known it would have been possible for them to find her after Joran left her)

a) 2K drop Joran and Natalee off at Joran's apt, Joran puts Natalee in parents' car, drives her to Arashi beach, rapes, murders and disposes of her.  Joran calls Deepak at 2:30 and lies that he is on the Marriott beach with Natalee and will leave her there. TMs Deepak about 40 minutes later to say he has returned.    

b) Same as above except they drive from CnCs to 2K home, then Joran borrows Deepak's car and takes Natalee to Arashi beach.  After 2:30 call, Joran returns car and Satish gives him ride back home.

Problem: In either scenario, why would they all originally say they went to the lighthouse?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 01:47:55 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
However, seeing these pro-Joran websites go down now and the deafening silence of Taco and Steve Cohen gives me more hope and positive vibes about this case than I have felt in a long time!!   :D  :D  :D


Yeah, what she said!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"


thanks for the link.....I have always believed this...but became positive when I saw some posters on Natalee related boards!! I can personally think of one person who I really liked and admired......who suddenly flipped over....I was shocked....but soon came to understand that many people can be bought for $$$ or other things to post in a certain way.....so sad.


Sunny, I was duped by these people, also, and took it personally at first.  Now I realize it's just their business...but what a business.  Totally unethical and slimey, to me, but perfectly legal, I suppose.  Some websites that have been pro-Joran (and anti-Holloway) have gone down recently, and I wonder if the finances have something to to with this.  In other words, were they paid to put up these sites and promote these ideas?  Now that the people who back them no longer see their benefit, they are off-line.  Very bad business, in my opinion.


AZ I think we all take it personally especially when we are so passionate about Natalee and the terrible injustices Aruba has forced on this family.....and then when someone dupes you....it is personal.  I come from the old school .....goodness will prevail in the end and those that have sold their souls/minds/hearts to the dark side will suffer in one way or another.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 01:49:50 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Peaches"
I am exactly who I say I am.  Always have been.  Always will be.


A wonderful lady with a super attitude and a big heart, smells like peaches to me.


Thank you so much.  I appreciate and love you all.

Time to commute!

BBL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 01:51:07 PM
Nonesasha, Hello!!!  And, don't you worry, you can wear that tiara with a clear conscience---I didn't say anything about who might deserve it most, I said who wants it most!! :lol: And, anyway, Klaasend knows I hate brownosing.  Oh, and Klaasend, you do an OK job; you know where the tiaras are kept if you want one (just let her wear the biggest one :roll: ; you don't want to have to bother editing any Southern cussing).

Sunny, I am so sorry to hear about your arm. :(  The good news is that it has a lot of time to heal before we need to get started organizing this house. :D   Why don't you go ahead and look into flights out here for this fall?!

I can't believe how much I'll miss ya'll.  Best wishes to each one of you.  You know, that line that Shakespeare wrote especially in case I ever needed it, the one about parting, is so true.  And, why, oh why, I wonder if my husband wanted to take me on some spectacular trip, didn't he choose the Orient---that's where all the best pearls are!!!!  

See ya'll this fall (and if ya'll start planning my return party, ya'll might want to remember my fondness for pearls; they also make a nice hostess gift, Sunny--even though I've invited you to help me organize this place, which might be considered work and a favor to me, I will technically be hostessing, and I know that you understand that line of thinking.  :lol: )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: "Shizaru"
The weight/cable is the best evidence both for and against Carlos' story. For, because it was found where he said it would be.  Against, because it's not plausable that it could have gotten there the way he apparently describes.  First, Joran just happens to have weight/cable in the car, then he is able to swim weighted down body far enough out that when it eventually surfaces it doesn't drift back to shore?

I am very skeptical of Carlos' story- altho I think something similar to what he describes may very well be what happened, except on the Marriott beach not Arashi beach.

However, say that Carlos is telling the truth.

Following two scenarios are both consistent with Carlos' story, phone/computer records, and polis van conersation (in which Joran made comments to 2K indicating he either thought, or was pretending to think, that they harmed Natalee, meaning 2K must have known it would have been possible for them to find her after Joran left her)

a) 2K drop Joran and Natalee off at Joran's apt, Joran puts Natalee in parents' car, drives her to Arashi beach, rapes, murders and disposes of her.  Joran calls Deepak at 2:30 and lies that he is on the Marriott beach with Natalee and will leave her there. TMs Deepak about 40 minutes later to say he has returned.    

b) Same as above except they drive from CnCs to 2K home, then Joran borrows Deepak's car and takes Natalee to Arashi beach.  After 2:30 call, Joran returns car and Satish gives him ride back home.

Problem: In either scenario, why would they all originally say they went to the lighthouse?


Shizaru,  I don't understand the cable/weight thing.  Are they saying the cable used to tied her body to something, like the coral reef or a rock, out in the ocean so it wouldn't drift back?  Or is the cable the weight itself?  If so, and the Columbian saw Joran take the body out with the cable on it, then how could he swim out a body with a weight attached sufficient to weight it down?  Doesn't seem possible to me.  

You say that I think something similar to what he describes may very well be what happened, except on the Marriott beach not Arashi beach.  Why?  What is the difference in the locations that make you think it occurred at one and not the other?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I still believe most people are who they say they are.  Those that have surprised me, I just ignore.  I assume that there are posters that have an incentive to post negatively on the case and I think most of those have seen that it didn't work.. Those that still post negatively are just mean and hateful people and the ones that had incentive are gone, it didn't work.  When someone says "let me be honest with you"  this gives me a red flag because I think why do you need to say that.. I'm kinda the last person to figure out someone motives but when I do, I just move on..


hi terry....those that infiltrated the goodness on SM eventually showed their TRUE colors and purpose and soon found out their purpose here was useless.....

BTW - you have mail


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 01:54:07 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Nonesasha, Hello!!!  And, don't you worry, you can wear that tiara with a clear conscience---I didn't say anything about who might deserve it most, I said who wants it most!! :lol: And, anyway, Klaasend knows I hate brownosing.  Oh, and Klaasend, you do an OK job; you know where the tiaras are kept if you want one (just let her wear the biggest one :roll: ; you don't want to have to bother editing any Southern cussing).

Sunny, I am so sorry to hear about your arm. :(  The good news is that it has a lot of time to heal before we need to get started organizing this house. :D   Why don't you go ahead and look into flights out here for this fall?!

I can't believe how much I'll miss ya'll.  Best wishes to each one of you.  You know, that line that Shakespeare wrote especially in case I ever needed it, the one about parting, is so true.  And, why, oh why, I wonder if my husband wanted to take me on some spectacular trip, didn't he choose the Orient---that's where all the best pearls are!!!!  

See ya'll this fall (and if ya'll start planning my return party, ya'll might want to remember my fondness for pearls; they also make a nice hostess gift, Sunny--even though I've invited you to help me organize this place, which might be considered work and a favor to me, I will technically be hostessing, and I know that you understand that line of thinking.  :lol: )


Fond farewell, Darleen.  Have a wonderful time!  We look forward to pics and stories of your trip, so make sure you keep a logbook.  Your return party will be a smash and you'll be the center of attention, I'm sure!   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 01:54:33 PM
Hey everyone!  Hope all are having a good day...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 01:55:19 PM
Darleen, I expect you to be so indulged with pearls, you may have added them as the crowning touch to your tiara.  "Parting is such sweet sorrow..."  

Shizaru, please 'splain what you would arrive at given your "pro" and "con" choices here.

AZLady, I think Chavez is salivating, especially seeing the sites going down, knowing that AHATA can no longer afford to fund these posters.  Well, at least the old attorney might have gotten part of it back with his Love Offering for Joran.  LOL.  What goes around, comes around.  Did they in turn give a good portion of it back to Joran's defense fund.  If so, goody, goody, goody.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 01:55:40 PM
I come here to know that the world hasn't completely gone into a molecular-sized black hole in a research facility in Aruba ane will slip from int containment flied, plummet to the earth's core and destroy the planet..  I had a giant fight over the weekend with a good friend because of this case and I get disappointed.. You guys give me up that there are people that still have human qualities and care about others.. That friend has been put on my discount list and whatever they say I just discount as worthless..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"


Anna, if these people are paid, when they stop being useful, then the paychecks stop.  So, they really don't have any more time than their employer gives them, usually not enough time before showing their true colors.  Time and patience always shows the truth.  We have all three here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 01:56:43 PM
Thanks, AZLADY; and ya'll are all my witnesses--I am only LOANING her (I mean Nonesasha) that tiara!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Thanks, AZLADY; and ya'll are all my witnesses--I am only LOANING her (I mean Nonesasha) that tiara!!!!


(http://bestsmileys.com/goodbye/4.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 01:59:10 PM
I know I am who I say I am!  That's messed up how some companies would hire "actors" to push product on message boards.  It's a definiote breach of trust if you ask me! Oh, BTW...has anyone tried the new chicken sandwich at McDonalds?  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 01:59:20 PM
Hi Darleen!

Its getting dark outside and I need to run but wanted say hi and have a great time..

td


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 02:00:27 PM
Good morning everyone!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 02:01:54 PM
I think everyone here is a person that I would like to know personally and I can say that there are many on other sites that really makes me think about who they might be..  Have a great day Anna, AZLady, Jacqueline, KatzHome, Kimmy53, kuoka, Ono, SunnyinTX, tcumom, thirdstrike, Tylergal, wreck and everyone else I missed..  It looks like rain soon..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 28, 2006, 02:02:55 PM
I need to run, too.  Have to do some shopping to make a special meal tonight for Mr. AZ who returns from a 10 day trip to Oregon.  I've been very lonely, but he'll be home tonight, so hurrah!  I may not be online much tonight, but I'll talk to ya'll tomorrow (after he leaves for work!)   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:03:17 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Nonesasha, Hello!!!  And, don't you worry, you can wear that tiara with a clear conscience---I didn't say anything about who might deserve it most, I said who wants it most!! :lol: And, anyway, Klaasend knows I hate brownosing.  Oh, and Klaasend, you do an OK job; you know where the tiaras are kept if you want one (just let her wear the biggest one :roll: ; you don't want to have to bother editing any Southern cussing).   Oh yes she does.... :wink:

Sunny, I am so sorry to hear about your arm. :(  The good news is that it has a lot of time to heal before we need to get started organizing this house. :D   Why don't you go ahead and look into flights out here for this fall?! hahahaha....darleen I will start looking...eeerrrr next week!!!

I can't believe how much I'll miss ya'll.  Best wishes to each one of you.  You know, that line that Shakespeare wrote especially in case I ever needed it, the one about parting, is so true.  And, why, oh why, I wonder if my husband wanted to take me on some spectacular trip, didn't he choose the Orient---that's where all the best pearls are!!!!  You will have a great trip with that VERY SMART husband of yours!!!

See ya'll this fall (and if ya'll start planning my return party, ya'll might want to remember my fondness for pearls; they also make a nice hostess gift, Sunny--even though I've invited you to help me organize this place, which might be considered work and a favor to me, I will technically be hostessing, and I know that you understand that line of thinking.  :lol: )
 Of course I do.....I am serving mimosas...I am sure you want your in a crystal glass !!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:04:23 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Hey everyone!  Hope all are having a good day...


Hi TS.....yes it's a good day....and yours???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 02:04:34 PM
.
DARLEEN,
Have a wonderful trip!  Maybe you can go to an internet cafe some time and log in to check on us monkeys back home if time permits.  I think you will be having too nice a time to miss us much, however.   :wink: But just a thought in case you need a SM fix while in Europe.  We are only a log on away.  
 :D

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Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:06:19 PM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Good morning everyone!


Hi Katz!!   How are you today!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:06:39 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Hey everyone!  Hope all are having a good day...


Hi TS.....yes it's a good day....and yours???


My day is great...thanks for asking!!  Well, knees are a little sore.  But, other then that...;)

What's the word in here?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 02:06:52 PM
Terry, anyway you could possibly run out and do a rain dance for us while you are getting rain.  We need it so bad.  We were fortunate to get about an inch over the weekend, but more rain is needed.

I don't even mind if I see a nude squirrel dancing, just for the rain. :lol:

We wub you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 28, 2006, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I think everyone here is a person that I would like to know personally and I can say that there are many on other sites that really makes me think about who they might be..  Have a great day Anna, AZLady, Jacqueline, KatzHome, Kimmy53, kuoka, Ono, SunnyinTX, tcumom, thirdstrike, Tylergal, wreck and everyone else I missed..  It looks like rain soon..


Thanks terryd!  I agree that there are so many wonderful genuine people on this site.  Feels kinda like family!

Hi Katz - good to see you.

Darleen - have a wonderful time!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:07:15 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I think everyone here is a person that I would like to know personally and I can say that there are many on other sites that really makes me think about who they might be..  Have a great day Anna, AZLady, Jacqueline, KatzHome, Kimmy53, kuoka, Ono, SunnyinTX, tcumom, thirdstrike, Tylergal, wreck and everyone else I missed..  It looks like rain soon..



Bye terry....hurry back...and thank you


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Terry, anyway you could possibly run out and do a rain dance for us while you are getting rain.  We need it so bad.  We were fortunate to get about an inch over the weekend, but more rain is needed.

I don't even mind if I see a nude squirrel dancing, just for the rain. :lol:

We wub you!


Oh Please take some of ours.................


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
I need to run, too.  Have to do some shopping to make a special meal tonight for Mr. AZ who returns from a 10 day trip to Oregon.  I've been very lonely, but he'll be home tonight, so hurrah!  I may not be online much tonight, but I'll talk to ya'll tomorrow (after he leaves for work!)   :lol:


see ya later tater!!  have a good evening :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Beleive it or not Terry... after trying a zillion different coffee makers... the percolator is my fav... makes the best tasting coffee!!


Hummmm oh yeah...  I'll have to try one of those ~ maybe this winter...

I really love the Hamilton Beach Brew Station Coffee Maker that my sister bought me ~ yah, yeah...  I know...  almost EVERYTHING I have ~ my sister bought me!  She's the best!

And the coffee I like best ~ my sister gave me a bag of it ~  :lol: ~ I've been grinding beans ~ but it's a big of already ground coffee ~ it's sold at Marshalls ~ and it's called Cupper's Choice "Freshly Roasted" Carmel Crunch ~ and it comes in different flavors....  Online it can be ordered full bean or ground...

RONA Inc. • Atlanta, GA • http://www.ronainc.com/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 02:12:26 PM
Yes, Sunny, crystal, of course; I knew you'd understand.  And, thank God, you said you're going to look into those flights next week, instead of tomorrow, because I've heard that tomorrow never comes!! :lol:

And, thanks, Anna; I'll hold that thought!

OK, I'd better get busy (just in case they're wrong about tomorrow...).  Tyler, yes, that's the line Shakespeare wrote especially for me to use in this situation; parting is sweet sorrow...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 02:12:57 PM
Oh, and bye, Terry!!  Stay safe!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I recently retired my old coffee maker.  It worked fine, but the coffee started tasting funky and the vinigar thing did not seem to help any longer.

Who is doing what for the 4th of July?


Every 4th of July we have a party at my house.  All the family and friends come over.  From our deck we can watch 3 different fireworks shows as long as the weather permits and it's not too overcast.  So July 4th in the afternoon, I won't be around much!  :lol:


I hope you have a wonderful day, Klaas!  My sister used to have a party every year at her house ~ but has gotten away from it...  Next year ~ if we're all off on Wednesday, like we are now ~ maybe I can talk her into having a party again...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 02:14:45 PM
Oh, my!   :shock:

So many interesting and clever posts by all my Monkeys!  Such thoughtful topics and insightful comments!  

Even if it is somebody's "job" to post a certain way, I still take it personally if it is to me they are posting.  VERY personally.   :wink:    
From the other side I think I have encountered both along the way, the
true believers and the paid shills.  

About this steel cable--I think that is the metal to which Dave was referring instead of any kind of a pipe.  Don't know how he could have swam with weighted body.  ???

Is this the area where there is supposed to be a sandbar 200 yards out the lovers go to?  Could he more or less have drug her to that?  Planned to get boat and retrieve and take farther out?

I just don't know.  This is the part that is off in some way.  

But a metal cable--what a possible trap for DNA!  Could be all in the metal strands of it.  I do wish our FBI had at least some of this cable.  And do we know what the length of it is supposed to be?  A whole coil of it or merely enough to wrap around tarp?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 02:16:16 PM
Oh, and Sunny, one more thing:  if my husband's so smart, then how come he's going to have to pay regular price and shipping and handling for pearls some day?! :lol:

(For everybody who doesn't know this already, my mother sent me to live with my daddy when I was a toddler, so I have a lot of separation anxiety---and it's hard for me to say good-bye :( ) OK, I'm going now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 02:17:14 PM
Jacqui, I do wish I could get some of your rain.  Is this not the weirdest weather you ever saw?  The normally rain-soaked southeast from fall to spring was high and dry.  Rain everywhere but where it normally is.  Gee, I am looking at the pictures of flooding on TV and it is hard to imagine that and very heartbreaking for those in flooded areas.

We had a flood once - a few years ago.  This is one of the worst stories I have ever told on myself but I am going to share it.

We live on a hill but the downtown area gets flooded so I have never had to have quite that amount of water where I live, but who knows next time.

A few years ago I had tree service take down some trees that were close to our house.  I built a flower bed in the area using the ground-up wood from the trees as apart of the soil.

I thought "hey, the higher the better."  Well, I planted all my flowers and roses there a few months later.

We had a flood.  Two of my bedrooms were soaking wet.  My DH said he could not understand that as we lived on a hill.  He had been in the hospital from his heart attack when I built the beds.  So he never really saw what I did with them.

I called the flooring people to re-do the bedrooms after the water went away.  Our insurance agent came out and told us he would replace the floors this time, but not next time because I had built the flower bed up to where it covered the weep holes of the house.  I did not know houses had to weep.  I know now.  DH would not let insurance company pay.  I think I learned a lesson because putting hardwood floors in two bedrooms and the hall can really knock a hole in the flower budget. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I think everyone here is a person that I would like to know personally and I can say that there are many on other sites that really makes me think about who they might be..  Have a great day Anna, AZLady, Jacqueline, KatzHome, Kimmy53, kuoka, Ono, SunnyinTX, tcumom, thirdstrike, Tylergal, wreck and everyone else I missed..  It looks like rain soon..


 8) Hi Terry! Everytime I pass our neighborhood Krispy Kreme I think of you! :D

Hello All~


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
I read last night's posts.....and will refrain from commenting.....other than ldstlou posted this last night....THANK YOU lsstlou



Mrs Red,
I have never had the honor of speaking to you here at SM...could never get logged on to the old forum!! (computer illiterate!! haha) and feel priviledged to have been invited to the new forum....
Thanks you all!! You just REALLY inspire me!!
Lisa


dito!

What happened last night?  I didn't go back and read old posts....  Just the last 3 pages...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 28, 2006, 02:18:34 PM
:cry: I have seen in recent days that many people in our real lives at home and on the boards/blogs/chats (good or bad)  that we are involved in are in turmoil. It saddens me that it has come to this. I know we all just seek simple truth and justice for Natalee and her family (at least the good sites 4 Nat/family do) and we are all very frustrated and tired. I can only imagine the heartache the family/friends feel. This trauma has infiltrated into our lives and we all want answers. All we ALL seek are real, true answers, good or bad, happy or sad...I don't know why I have said all this, but I do so hope that soon it will be over for all and justice is served.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Oh, and Sunny, one more thing:  if my husband's so smart, then how come he's going to have to pay regular price and shipping and handling for pearls some day?! :lol:

(For everybody who doesn't know this already, my mother sent me to live with my daddy when I was a toddler, so I have a lot of separation anxiety---and it's hard for me to say good-bye :( ) OK, I'm going now.


Darleeny:

Have a good vacation.. :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 02:20:35 PM
Oh, wait a minute, ya'll aren't taking Mrs. Red's advice on anything related to coffee, are ya'll?!!  I just had to do ya'll this one final favor and warn ya'll against that.  She may have a lot of talents, but I've heard (from a pretty good source) that that's not one of them.

OK, now I'm going. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 02:21:03 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "MominTN"
Quote from: "wreck"
LOL-- I watched a show about the history of coffee in the U.S. recently on "The History Channel." They said that "perculating" is the absolute WORSE thing you can do to coffee because the brewed coffee is continuously washed over the grounds again and again. They said this "practice" from the 50's really alterd Americans appreciation for good coffee.  :wink:


I'm wondering how the French make coffee.  I remember it being strong but kind of rank.
The best coffee I've ever had was in Jamaica.  What do they use?


Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee.  

Ya get what  ya brew.


I just looked ~ RONA has Jamiac Blue Mountain...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
I read last night's posts.....and will refrain from commenting.....other than ldstlou posted this last night....THANK YOU lsstlou



Mrs Red,
I have never had the honor of speaking to you here at SM...could never get logged on to the old forum!! (computer illiterate!! haha) and feel priviledged to have been invited to the new forum....
Thanks you all!! You just REALLY inspire me!!
Lisa


dito!



What happened last night?  I didn't go back and read old posts....  Just the last 3 pages...


LOL! Me too...only read the last three pages too...What happened? :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:22:59 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Hey everyone!  Hope all are having a good day...


Hi TS.....yes it's a good day....and yours???


My day is great...thanks for asking!!  Well, knees are a little sore.  But, other then that...;)

What's the word in here?


TRUTH


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 02:23:25 PM
Hey what's with the grouper lip everybody???????????

Tyler - it's raining here! A gain!

Jacquie - I feel for you summer is so short in The NE it shouldn't be allowed to rain.

Ono - Why do you thingk of terry when you see Crispy Creme - Cause he's Hot, Fresh and Sweet?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I think everyone here is a person that I would like to know personally and I can say that there are many on other sites that really makes me think about who they might be..  Have a great day Anna, AZLady, Jacqueline, KatzHome, Kimmy53, kuoka, Ono, SunnyinTX, tcumom, thirdstrike, Tylergal, wreck and everyone else I missed..  It looks like rain soon..


Thanks terryd!  I agree that there are so many wonderful genuine people on this site.  Feels kinda like family!

Hi Katz - good to see you.

Darleen - have a wonderful time!


Hi Kimmmy.....family is a good word for SM


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:24:34 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Hey what's with the grouper lip everybody???????????

Tyler - it's raining here! A gain!

Jacquie - I feel for you summer is so short in The NE it shouldn't be allowed to rain.

Ono - Why do you thingk of terry when you see Crispy Creme - Cause he's Hot, Fresh and Sweet?


LOL!  :lol: And he smells sooooooo good!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 02:24:57 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
:cry: I have seen in recent days that many people in our real lives at home and on the boards/blogs/chats (good or bad)  that we are involved in are in turmoil. It saddens me that it has come to this. I know we all just seek simple truth and justice for Natalee and her family (at least the good sites 4 Nat/family do) and we are all very frustrated and tired. I can only imagine the heartache the family/friends feel. This trauma has infiltrated into our lives and we all want answers. All we ALL seek are real, true answers, good or bad, happy or sad...I don't know why I have said all this, but I do so hope that soon it will be over for all and justice is served.


Nut44x4, those of us here for Natalee, Dave & Beth, will be here long after all others have folded their tents, as we do not depend on a check to keep us going.  Finding the truth and justice for Natalee is quite enough for us.  The Reds & Tom have allowed us to be guests in their home, their internet home and have even shared stories of their own lives and home with us.  They never asked anything from us but integrity, decorum and respect.  Sometimes we forget we are guests in their home.  I am just as guilty as anyone, but we are and we must either appreciate their kind offer or reject it in toto, and find another venue for our frustrations.  This is about Natalee, always has been, and should remain so and when we get frustrated we talk about other things, we form bonds and we find good friends this way.  We find that some were not as true to the cause as others.  Those who were and who are solidlly in it for Natalee will be here as long as the Reds & Tom keep the site available for that purpose.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:25:35 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Yes, Sunny, crystal, of course; I knew you'd understand.  And, thank God, you said you're going to look into those flights next week, instead of tomorrow, because I've heard that tomorrow never comes!! :lol:

And, thanks, Anna; I'll hold that thought!

OK, I'd better get busy (just in case they're wrong about tomorrow...).  Tyler, yes, that's the line Shakespeare wrote especially for me to use in this situation; parting is sweet sorrow...


Only the best for you and the Monks!  next week is soon enuf!!! When is your departure date?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:26:32 PM
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 02:28:09 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Hey, sweetie.  Just remember God does not allow one door closed without opening another.  My best wishes for you.  I am sorry about your job.  Many of us have been there before.  Just keep the faith and pray that there was a reason for this and He will show you what He has in store for you in bigger and better areas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:28:26 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Oh, my!   :shock:

So many interesting and clever posts by all my Monkeys!  Such thoughtful topics and insightful comments!  

Even if it is somebody's "job" to post a certain way, I still take it personally if it is to me they are posting.  VERY personally.   :wink:    
From the other side I think I have encountered both along the way, the
true believers and the paid shills.  

About this steel cable--I think that is the metal to which Dave was referring instead of any kind of a pipe.  Don't know how he could have swam with weighted body.  ???

Is this the area where there is supposed to be a sandbar 200 yards out the lovers go to?  Could he more or less have drug her to that?  Planned to get boat and retrieve and take farther out?

I just don't know.  This is the part that is off in some way.  

But a metal cable--what a possible trap for DNA!  Could be all in the metal strands of it.  I do wish our FBI had at least some of this cable.  And do we know what the length of it is supposed to be?  A whole coil of it or merely enough to wrap around tarp?


So nay questions we'd love to have answers for.  I asked earlier but go no reply...so I'll try again.... :D

How many pieces of evidence are there?
1. condom? where is it?
2. pipe that JQK mentioned?
3. an article that Beth would recognize....but she still hasn't seen it?
4. a steelcable?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Sorry to hear that Crazymom.
I bet he already misses you and better things to come for you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Oh, and Sunny, one more thing:  if my husband's so smart, then how come he's going to have to pay regular price and shipping and handling for pearls some day?! :lol:

(For everybody who doesn't know this already, my mother sent me to live with my daddy when I was a toddler, so I have a lot of separation anxiety---and it's hard for me to say good-bye :( ) OK, I'm going now.


Perhaps he thinks you'll settle for diamonds and emeralds!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 02:31:26 PM
FM, do you have our dinner ready or were you preparing to cook out when the rains came?  You always make us hungry for your great menus.

Darleen, you are going to have such a great time.  It would only be better if you could get Sunny on that plane with you and have her as a "shopping" companion.  I know the two of you could buy some pearls.

Beachy, good to see you here.  We wub you and prayers for your son and all the young men and women in harm's way.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 28, 2006, 02:31:27 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Crazymom - I am so sorry to hear about your job.  I will keep you in my prayers - I too am sure something good will come of this. The uncertainty of being laid off is scary - Been there, done that, but for me, my situation improved 100%.  (((((hugs)))))


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Sorry to hear that Crazymom.
I bet he already misses you and better things to come for you!


Thanks, tylergal and jacaqueline He had the nerve to ask me to train him to do my job in my spare time.  I just stared at him.  My last day will be Friday.  I am ready for new adventures in my life! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Am sorry Crazymom ~ You'll find something better.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Crazymom - I am so sorry to hear about your job.  I will keep you in my prayers - I too am sure something good will come of this. The uncertainty of being laid off is scary - Been there, done that, but for me, my situation improved 100%.  (((((hugs)))))


Thanks Kimmy, I already am less stressed than I was a week ago!  I am worried about the two guys that work for the firm that have new babies at home.  My hubby and I will make it.  We just need to tighten the belt a bit.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:33:49 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Hey, sweetie.  Just remember God does not allow one door closed without opening another.  My best wishes for you.  I am sorry about your job.  Many of us have been there before.  Just keep the faith and pray that there was a reason for this and He will show you what He has in store for you in bigger and better areas.


Absolutely........ what Tyler said!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: "Ono"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Am sorry Crazymom ~ You'll find something better.


What was that interior designers name again?   :wink:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 02:35:09 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
FM, do you have our dinner ready or were you preparing to cook out when the rains came?  You always make us hungry for your great menus.

Darleen, you are going to have such a great time.  It would only be better if you could get Sunny on that plane with you and have her as a "shopping" companion.  I know the two of you could buy some pearls.

Beachy, good to see you here.  We wub you and prayers for your son and all the young men and women in harm's way.


well Darleen did want to to go with her and act as her handmaiden....but I had another job!  LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:36:24 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Hey, sweetie.  Just remember God does not allow one door closed without opening another.  My best wishes for you.  I am sorry about your job.  Many of us have been there before.  Just keep the faith and pray that there was a reason for this and He will show you what He has in store for you in bigger and better areas.


Absolutely........ what Tyler said!!!


I think HE says, hmmm, the heart attack didn't slow her down so I guess I will make her slow down just a bit.  :lol:  Seriously, if there is a monkey here who has started a home business would like to give me some advice or pointer any and all ar welcomed!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:38:15 PM
Yeah, I'm curious about last night's posts as well...considering I was on late.  Was there a problem w/the content?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:38:32 PM
Flyingmermaid:

Several months ago Terry was reminiscing about his days in B'ham and Alabama's Krispy Kreme shops and I replied that we had a gorgeous new one built within five minutes of our home in my part of Alabama. Every afternoon, if you are driving past, the aroma wafting through the air is devine! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: "Ono"
Flyingmermaid:

Several months ago Terry was reminiscing about his days in B'ham and Alabama's Krispy Kreme shops and I replied that we had a gorgeous new one built within five minutes of our home in my part of Alabama. Every afternoon, if you are driving past, the aroma wafting through the air is devine! :D


Yeah, there is nothing that smells better, so alluring.  I want to stop in and have a whole plate full.  One day I just might do that, all covered with chocolate.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Shizaru on June 28, 2006, 02:41:19 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Shizaru"
The weight/cable is the best evidence both for and against Carlos' story. For, because it was found where he said it would be.  Against, because it's not plausable that it could have gotten there the way he apparently describes.  First, Joran just happens to have weight/cable in the car, then he is able to swim weighted down body far enough out that when it eventually surfaces it doesn't drift back to shore?

I am very skeptical of Carlos' story- altho I think something similar to what he describes may very well be what happened, except on the Marriott beach not Arashi beach.

However, say that Carlos is telling the truth.

Following two scenarios are both consistent with Carlos' story, phone/computer records, and polis van conersation (in which Joran made comments to 2K indicating he either thought, or was pretending to think, that they harmed Natalee, meaning 2K must have known it would have been possible for them to find her after Joran left her)

a) 2K drop Joran and Natalee off at Joran's apt, Joran puts Natalee in parents' car, drives her to Arashi beach, rapes, murders and disposes of her.  Joran calls Deepak at 2:30 and lies that he is on the Marriott beach with Natalee and will leave her there. TMs Deepak about 40 minutes later to say he has returned.    

b) Same as above except they drive from CnCs to 2K home, then Joran borrows Deepak's car and takes Natalee to Arashi beach.  After 2:30 call, Joran returns car and Satish gives him ride back home.

Problem: In either scenario, why would they all originally say they went to the lighthouse?


Shizaru,  I don't understand the cable/weight thing.  Are they saying the cable used to tied her body to something, like the coral reef or a rock, out in the ocean so it wouldn't drift back?  Or is the cable the weight itself?  If so, and the Columbian saw Joran take the body out with the cable on it, then how could he swim out a body with a weight attached sufficient to weight it down?  Doesn't seem possible to me.  

You say that I think something similar to what he describes may very well be what happened, except on the Marriott beach not Arashi beach.  Why?  What is the difference in the locations that make you think it occurred at one and not the other?


I don't understand the weight/cable thing either.   If the cable wasn't the weight itself then maybe he supposedly tied weights to her with a cable.  If the idea was that he just tied her to something in the ocean with the cable, that's more plausable, but still doesn't explain what happened to the body. If it came loose why didn't it wash back up.  Panama-bound current usually starts at around 1000 meters, in dummy experiments all the dummies released at less than that distance returned to shore.  Possible I suppose that it did wash up, but in a cave or some other hard to access location where it went undiscovered.  Like Chandra lying at the bottom of the ravine slope for a year. Or maybe currents by Arashi can reach much closer than 1000 meters.  

Marriott beach makes much more logistical sense than Arashi as location for sexual assault on passed out victim: From there Joran can just walk home or catch a cab at the Marriott, leaving her to walk back to her hotel when she wakes up.  It also fits much better with the phone/computer timeline and what I noted about the polis van conversation.  The Arashi scenarios I described do fit the timeline and conversation too, but are overcomplicated.

The VF article said there is a sandbar about 200 M out from the M beach, beyond which anything gets swept out to sea.  If true Joran could have swum her body out, and dropped her on the other side of the sandbar, thereby placing her in outgoing current without endangering himself.  Ocean disposal without a boat could explain his missing shoes too, he would have taken them off to enter the water and might not have been able to find them again in the dark when he re-emerged.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:41:46 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Quote from: "Ono"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Am sorry Crazymom ~ You'll find something better.


What was that interior designers name again?   :wink:  :lol:  :lol:


Randy Byars.........Randall Byars Interiors (I think his business is called)..He had a shop in the Heights when we lived there and I was his best customer :D ...he is simply the best.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Ono"
Flyingmermaid:

Several months ago Terry was reminiscing about his days in B'ham and Alabama's Krispy Kreme shops and I replied that we had a gorgeous new one built within five minutes of our home in my part of Alabama. Every afternoon, if you are driving past, the aroma wafting through the air is devine! :D


Yeah, there is nothing that smells better, so alluring.  I want to stop in and have a whole plate full.  One day I just might do that, all covered with chocolate.


 :lol: Me too...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
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I am staying home for the weekend because the fireworks scare my dogs so will comfort them as best I can.   :D They are not much on that kind of celebration.  But I may bring my mom over for a visit, always an adventure.  And plan to fix ribs soaked in vodka on the smoker, slaw, baked beans, etc.  Will be nice.  

I am worried about my kids in the D.C. area.  Anyone from up that way and with any inside information on the Fairfax-Arlington, VA flood conditions?   :(

.


I wish I could be home with my cats ~ but I have to work that night...  Especially Bink...  He get scared when it rains...  or hears a truck go by...  never mind thunder and lightening ~ I feel so bad for him on the 4th of July ~ thank God there aren't many fireworks here...  Thankfully a lot of people just watch the displays that are put on by the different casinos...  last years was beautiful...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 02:48:54 PM
Could it be that there is a cable line attached to something from beachside out into the water and attached to something out in the water that Joran hung onto while walking/swimming out?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: "Ono"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Quote from: "Ono"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Am sorry Crazymom ~ You'll find something better.


What was that interior designers name again?   :wink:  :lol:  :lol:


Randy Byars.........Randall Byars Interiors (I think his business is called)..He had a shop in the Heights when we lived there and I was his best customer :D ...he is simply the best.


I was just teasing. I have zero talent when it comes to decorating.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 02:49:56 PM
Thanks, Shizaru.  Do you feel like parts of the story are true and parts are not and some parts are made up to keep the adverseries and the public guessing and that JQK and KJ know more than we are being told.

I think JQK seems optimistic.

Could it be the reason they are keeping witness in custody is to keep him under raps, keep him safe and keep him from talking on the street, to keep information to a minimum, and yet throw just enough out there to confuse the perps.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:51:21 PM
Thanks for the uplift!  :wink: You guys are the best.  I will see you this evening.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 02:52:01 PM
G'bye, All.  G'bye, Third.  Hope to see you & Spooky on later tonight.  Going to take a much required nap before I get hungry and eat myself into another round of "stomach."  This donut talk is getting to me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "Anna"
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I am staying home for the weekend because the fireworks scare my dogs so will comfort them as best I can.   :D They are not much on that kind of celebration.  But I may bring my mom over for a visit, always an adventure.  And plan to fix ribs soaked in vodka on the smoker, slaw, baked beans, etc.  Will be nice.  

I am worried about my kids in the D.C. area.  Anyone from up that way and with any inside information on the Fairfax-Arlington, VA flood conditions?   :(

.


I wish I could be home with my cats ~ but I have to work that night...  Especially Bink...  He get scared when it rains...  or hears a truck go by...  never mind thunder and lightening ~ I feel so bad for him on the 4th of July ~ thank God there aren't many fireworks here...  Thankfully a lot of people just watch the displays that are put on by the different casinos...  last years was beautiful...


I hate it when my cats are scared because there is nothing I can really do to make them feel better until what ever is scaring them goes away. :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 02:55:22 PM
Hey, I could go work for Krispy Kreme. :wink:  No, I could because I would be as big as the broad side of a barn!!!! :?   See you later for real!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 02:56:03 PM
Darleen-

You have your answer - SUNNY NEEDS YOUR TIARA !!!  :D So Sunny wears it now !!!!!!!!!

As you recall, you and Klaas put that tiara on me without my consent, I may be an egghead but I'm a happy egghead  :D I yam what I yam!!  :lol:

crazymom-

Keep the faith, try to take a mini vacation and know that jacks-of-all-trades like you are always in demand!

Ono-

Good to see you and Katz too. I have a few pieces from King's Antiques I just adore..... did ever hear of an artist Arthur Weeks? My mother's gallery represented him for many years, so miss his work now post his death.

Must run again, time for medications and also those kittens need some screen porch time. I think I just saw Wiggles give Sophie the people's elbow so they need to take that rowdy girl stuff outside!

Take care all !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: tcumom on June 28, 2006, 02:57:31 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.

Hi ~ we've been there before ~ high-tech layoffs affecting my husband ~ I CAN tell you that the good news will occur when you least expect it!  And, it will happen . . . I'll say a prayer for you and all other monkeys, as I always do . . . keep the faith!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 28, 2006, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: "Ono"
Could it be that there is a cable line attached to something from beachside out into the water and attached to something out in the water that Joran hung onto while walking/swimming out?


Ono - that was my first thought when a cable was mentioned.  I just wish we knew what kind of cable they are talking about.  A long cable, a big cable, just a piece of cable?   It would be very possible if this cable is "permanent" that Joran did use it to help get out and back in - as a guide.

Also the pipe they are talking about.... where did it come from?  was it found during a search?  does anyone know?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 03:11:41 PM
Crazymom - Go for it!

Tyler - no cooking tonight taking the young marine out for wings.

Ono

There is a Crispy Creme on my way to work.  They have taught the donughts to scream my name and taunt me.  I ignore their calls and drive by.  

Lord knows I'm zoftig (or is it Rubenesque) enough from my own cooking.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 03:14:18 PM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


Crazymom - I am so sorry to hear about your job.  I will keep you in my prayers - I too am sure something good will come of this. The uncertainty of being laid off is scary - Been there, done that, but for me, my situation improved 100%.  (((((hugs)))))


Me too!  There's always something better around the corner.  You'll see.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 03:20:45 PM
Well, for a long time I felt I gave my best years to a company and really got slapped in the face by the dump after 12 years.  It was an ESOP and the stocks had split off several times over those years, which had turned into a nice little nest egg.  Then the corporation began to have financial problems due to some really bad calls made by management.  It was sold to this group of speculators who took the company public and offered each employee X number of dollars per share, plus so many shares in the new company.  Well, those people took the place a little closer to ruin and I got my walking papers one day.  I then followed the stock until it dropped off the stock exchange and the company went belly up.

We shareholders wound up getting 7 cents on the dollar, which didn’t amount to a hill of beans.  My attitude started to change after that ordeal and I found refuge away from the rat race that has a few more assurances regarding benefits and 100% less stress.

Chit happens, but we just have to move on…..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 03:22:56 PM
everything happens for a reason:
True story, condensed version:

Owner of a restaurant in World Trade Center got scared after the first bombing attempt in 93.  

Decided to move his restaurant out of the the city and over to Jersey.

His employees unhappy but a tight group so they all followed.

Jump ahead to 9-11.

First plane hits the towers on the exact floor that restaurant used to be on.

All of the people in that area killed.

When owner of restaurant found out what happened , he realized he saved his employees lifes.  When asked by friends how he felt after this he of course was grateful but not surprised.  "after the first attempt, I knew it would just be a matter of time before someone tried again" was all he replied.

Sometimes things happen for a reason even though at the time they seem senseless....

It's happened in my life and all of our lives ...

I find this a comfort........


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Ono"
Flyingmermaid:

Several months ago Terry was reminiscing about his days in B'ham and Alabama's Krispy Kreme shops and I replied that we had a gorgeous new one built within five minutes of our home in my part of Alabama. Every afternoon, if you are driving past, the aroma wafting through the air is devine! :D


Yeah, there is nothing that smells better, so alluring.  I want to stop in and have a whole plate full.  One day I just might do that, all covered with chocolate.



Still warm from the oven. . . . . . lemon jelly filled with coffee.  Have you bouncing off the walls in no time, a real energy jolt!   :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 03:29:24 PM
Well, SUNNY, I don't know but I think the metal pipe and cable are the same thing.  We just thought it was a pipe but turns out to be cable.

So we have metal cable, frozen condom and article belonging to Natalee
that Beth should recognize should it EVER be shown to her??

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 03:30:47 PM
Uncle Mike Update........

(ya just can't make this chit up)

Hearing delayed again.

The judge had to attend a funeral for a friend.

And so it goes again!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 28, 2006, 03:31:10 PM
Just pulled up Boycott aruba site "http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/"

Confused a bit.......as usual, lol.
I SMELL A RAT...COMMENTARY BY MERI is a bit interesting but not sure who is hugging Steve Croes...that isn't Kath is it??........I swear sometimes I feel like I am losing my mind in this case.....does anyone else see this and who is that woman in his arms. Please tell me I am wrong. I do not have a problem with being wrong......I usually am, lmao.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 03:35:00 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Just pulled up Boycott aruba site "http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/"

Confused a bit.......as usual, lol.
I SMELL A RAT...COMMENTARY BY MERI is a bit interesting but not sure who is hugging Steve Croes...that isn't Kath is it??........I swear sometimes I feel like I am losing my mind in this case.....does anyone else see this and who is that woman in his arms. Please tell me I am wrong. I do not have a problem with being wrong......I usually am, lmao.


I think you might be right.  I've seen that face before.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Just pulled up Boycott aruba site "http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/"

Confused a bit.......as usual, lol.
I SMELL A RAT...COMMENTARY BY MERI is a bit interesting but not sure who is hugging Steve Croes...that isn't Kath is it??........I swear sometimes I feel like I am losing my mind in this case.....does anyone else see this and who is that woman in his arms. Please tell me I am wrong. I do not have a problem with being wrong......I usually am, lmao.


I believe that is Kath.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 03:36:13 PM
O/T Unless You Believe Natalee Taken By Sex Slave Industry:

World Cup Sex Industry Uncovered — Part III

Wednesday, June 28, 2006

by Father Jonathan Morris for FOX Fan Central

 
Editor's note: Tune in to FOX News Live at 11:45 a.m. ET for Father Jonathan's live report on human trafficking at the World Cup.

In the last two days I’ve interviewed three girls from similar backgrounds that I want to tell you about. Each has gone her separate way.

Shasha is Russian and looks the part. She moves quickly, smiles quickly (although rarely), works hard, and gets things done. Her hotel manager surely loves her.

For two days she watched my colleagues and me work, but never said a thing. Last night she broke the silence. “Why do you wear that around your neck?" she asked.

“I’m a priest," I said. “It’s called a clerical collar and it signifies my dedication to God."

“And the television camera?” she retorted.

There was no camera in sight. She must have seen Barnaby lugging the equipment around the reception area earlier.

“Well, we are here in Germany to do a story for American television. It is about human trafficking and legal prostitution in relation to the World Cup."

She gave a quick, forced smile, and with that she left.

Her abrupt departure was revealing. I called her back and asked if we could talk for a moment. She refused politely and signaled toward the kitchen. She said she was very busy. And I’m sure she was.

As I left the restaurant she strolled by again.

“Okay, I’ll talk with you." That’s all she said.

A half an hour later she was weeping. “I made a big mistake. I will be a shame for my children.”

She went on to tell me the harrowing story of her departure from Russia. She was poor, but her parents were good and ordinary folk. In a moment of youthful rebellion and a healthy desire for self-improvement, she agreed to go with a group of her friends to work in Germany. They were told they would be dancers. In the back of her mind, Shasha knew it might not be pretty. It wasn’t.

When she arrived in Munich she was placed in an apartment with seven other girls. Her passport was taken. She danced, but she was only paid for her extra work. It was prostitution. She recalled how she cried every day for two years, and still cries. “I wanted to go home, but I couldn’t. Or maybe I could, but I didn’t know how. I was afraid, above all, for my parents.”

She wouldn’t say more. Shasha was eventually released to return to Russia, after pleading with her employers to allow her to visit her sick parents. A month later she was back in Germany, but this time on her own and determined to make an honest living.

“It’s very hard…very, very hard. Here I work too much, but I don’t cry." Shasha knows her past will never leave her mind. She has not decided if she will marry or have children.

“Coco” was from the former Yugoslavia. My conversation with her was much different, and it wasn’t because the camera was on. Mr. Kruneich, the manager of the brothel and her boss, stood by her side. She answered my questions with one or two words and she knew precisely what to say — and what not to say.

Here’s how we began:

“You work here. Do you like it?”

“Yes, I do.”

“Are you forced to be here?” I continued.

“No, I want to be here.”

I tried another angle. “Do you have sisters?”

“Yes, I have two."

"And are they younger than you?”

She looked down. “Yes, they are."

“Do you want them to work here with you when they get older?”

“No, I don’t.”

She looked at her boss. He looked at me. End of interview. There was no reason to go on.

Tomorrow, I’ll tell you about the third girl I met, who tells a very different story. It is a happy one.

I’ll also report on my conversation with the spokesman for Germany’s Department of Family Life, which, surprisingly, is the government ministry that oversees the legalized prostitution industry. It is an important piece of the story.

God bless, Father Jonathan



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This article is part of a regular blog hosted by Father Jonathan Morris on FOXNews.com. You can invite new readers by forwarding this URL address: www.foxnews.com/fatherjonathan.

Write to Father Jonathan at fatherjonathan@foxnews.com.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 28, 2006, 03:36:37 PM
What the HAY......is going on?? ANyone else besides me feel ill??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "Ono"
Could it be that there is a cable line attached to something from beachside out into the water and attached to something out in the water that Joran hung onto while walking/swimming out?


Ono - that was my first thought when a cable was mentioned.  I just wish we knew what kind of cable they are talking about.  A long cable, a big cable, just a piece of cable?   It would be very possible if this cable is "permanent" that Joran did use it to help get out and back in - as a guide.

Also the pipe they are talking about.... where did it come from?  was it found during a search?  does anyone know?


Kimmy:

I just don't know ... more questions arise. I am totally confused now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 03:40:38 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Nonesasha, Hello!!!  And, don't you worry, you can wear that tiara with a clear conscience---I didn't say anything about who might deserve it most, I said who wants it most!! :lol: And, anyway, Klaasend knows I hate brownosing.  Oh, and Klaasend, you do an OK job; you know where the tiaras are kept if you want one (just let her wear the biggest one :roll: ; you don't want to have to bother editing any Southern cussing).

Sunny, I am so sorry to hear about your arm. :(  The good news is that it has a lot of time to heal before we need to get started organizing this house. :D   Why don't you go ahead and look into flights out here for this fall?!

I can't believe how much I'll miss ya'll.  Best wishes to each one of you.  You know, that line that Shakespeare wrote especially in case I ever needed it, the one about parting, is so true.  And, why, oh why, I wonder if my husband wanted to take me on some spectacular trip, didn't he choose the Orient---that's where all the best pearls are!!!!  

See ya'll this fall (and if ya'll start planning my return party, ya'll might want to remember my fondness for pearls; they also make a nice hostess gift, Sunny--even though I've invited you to help me organize this place, which might be considered work and a favor to me, I will technically be hostessing, and I know that you understand that line of thinking.  :lol: )


What happened to your arm, Sunny

Have a wonderful trip Darleen!

And I have to get ready for the doctor's appt. ~ so I'll see you monkeys later....  and love you!

{{{hugs}}}  Mrs. Red!


And I'm becoming a bigger and bigger fan of Strike's by the day....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, for a long time I felt I gave my best years to a company and really got slapped in the face by the dump after 12 years.  It was an ESOP and the stocks had split off several times over those years, which had turned into a nice little nest egg.  Then the corporation began to have financial problems due to some really bad calls made by management.  It was sold to this group of speculators who took the company public and offered each employee X number of dollars per share, plus so many shares in the new company.  Well, those people took the place a little closer to ruin and I got my walking papers one day.  I then followed the stock until it dropped off the stock exchange and the company went belly up.

We shareholders wound up getting 7 cents on the dollar, which didn’t amount to a hill of beans.  My attitude started to change after that ordeal and I found refuge away from the rat race that has a few more assurances regarding benefits and 100% less stress.

Chit happens, but we just have to move on…..


Are you by chance talking about the financial woes of Kripsy Kreme? Or something else?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 03:48:32 PM
Easy:

Oh, I know...you were sympathizing with Crazymom. (I am so blonde) ~ :?

Nonsey:

King's Antiques...Little Rock? Sounds familiar........ Actually, there are so many wonderful antique shops in Little Rock, Pine Bluff, and surrounding areas..it's like being a kid in a candy shop.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 03:58:42 PM
hey y'all...

what's going on?

If anybody sees Third will yall ask him to email me??? thanks


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 03:59:19 PM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
And I'm becoming a bigger and bigger fan of Strike's by the day....


I appreciate the endorsement Katz!  But, what exactly are you a fan of?  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
hey y'all...

what's going on?

If anybody sees Third will yall ask him to email me??? thanks


'Sup girl!  What you need?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:02:12 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
hey y'all...

what's going on?

If anybody sees Third will yall ask him to email me??? thanks


'Sup girl!  What you need?


an email....LOL...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:03:43 PM
Reading back just a little....

Crazymom, I have been in those shoes... and the monkeys are right.... bigger and better coming your way!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
hey y'all...

what's going on?

If anybody sees Third will yall ask him to email me??? thanks


'Sup girl!  What you need?


an email....LOL...


Well, you got one now!!  Check yo' box woman!!  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 04:05:51 PM
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 04:07:04 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


Yeah, I'm startying to feel a little ill about this as well... :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: tcumom on June 28, 2006, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.

thank you for asking ~ I figured I was the only one who didn't get it.  :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:07:59 PM
Regarding the cable.... I am thinking maybe they are talking about a MOORING cable.  You know, the cable that is attached to the ocean floor and has a floating plastic device so you can spot it... used to anchor boats in harbors?

Sporter wouldn't have been carrying it.  

I missed the description last night so am just telling you what comes to my mind after reading the last 10 pgs today.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 04:08:16 PM
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: "Ono"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, for a long time I felt I gave my best years to a company and really got slapped in the face by the dump after 12 years.  It was an ESOP and the stocks had split off several times over those years, which had turned into a nice little nest egg.  Then the corporation began to have financial problems due to some really bad calls made by management.  It was sold to this group of speculators who took the company public and offered each employee X number of dollars per share, plus so many shares in the new company.  Well, those people took the place a little closer to ruin and I got my walking papers one day.  I then followed the stock until it dropped off the stock exchange and the company went belly up.

We shareholders wound up getting 7 cents on the dollar, which didn’t amount to a hill of beans.  My attitude started to change after that ordeal and I found refuge away from the rat race that has a few more assurances regarding benefits and 100% less stress.

Chit happens, but we just have to move on…..


Are you by chance talking about the financial woes of Kripsy Kreme? Or something else?


No, but you guys have me wanting a Krispy Kreme and a good cup of coffee and it is late in the day! lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 04:08:20 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Well, SUNNY, I don't know but I think the metal pipe and cable are the same thing.  We just thought it was a pipe but turns out to be cable.

So we have metal cable, frozen condom and article belonging to Natalee
that Beth should recognize should it EVER be shown to her??

.


thanks Anna.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:08:37 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Regarding the cable.... I am thinking maybe they are talking about a MOORING cable.  You know, the cable that is attached to the ocean floor and has a floating plastic device so you can spot it... used to anchor boats in harbors?

Sporter wouldn't have been carrying it.  

I missed the description last night so am just telling you what comes to my mind after reading the last 10 pgs today.


makes total sense!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Uncle Mike Update........

(ya just can't make this chit up)

Hearing delayed again.

The judge had to attend a funeral for a friend.

And so it goes again!


Damn...this is maddening!! thanks for telling us....and prayers still coming for Unlce Mike


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Regarding the cable.... I am thinking maybe they are talking about a MOORING cable.  You know, the cable that is attached to the ocean floor and has a floating plastic device so you can spot it... used to anchor boats in harbors?

Sporter wouldn't have been carrying it.  

I missed the description last night so am just telling you what comes to my mind after reading the last 10 pgs today.


makes total sense!!


Like I said - I didn't hear what the news said but this is the only normal application of a cable in the water that I know of.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 04:11:14 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 04:11:17 PM
Hey, Ya'll!!  I went to get some luggage and ended up organizing half the cabinets in the garage and sweeping the floor! :shock:  I had to stop back in here just to hone my "relaxing" skills. :lol: And just wanted to mention, before a rush to judge Kath, maybe she was undercover to get information before any of them found out what she was really up to in trying to solve Natalee's case.  Just a thought.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Regarding the cable.... I am thinking maybe they are talking about a MOORING cable.  You know, the cable that is attached to the ocean floor and has a floating plastic device so you can spot it... used to anchor boats in harbors?

Sporter wouldn't have been carrying it.  

I missed the description last night so am just telling you what comes to my mind after reading the last 10 pgs today.


Yeah...something like that came to mind.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 04:14:33 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


 :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: tcumom on June 28, 2006, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.

Doesn't that person post here?  Boy oh boy, now I'm really confused.  Sorry to be so ignorant, and thanks to anyone who would kindly answer/explain.  :shock:  :?  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


It is starting to seem like several very quirky things have started to happen lately.  What is it all about?  Money?  Infamy?  Self-serving BS?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 04:15:26 PM
Oh, and I see that Nonesasha still can't believe that I'm actually going to let her wear my tiara in my absence.  Probably thinks I'm just getting her hopes up only to snatch it away. :roll: Really, Nonesasha, dreams do come true--it's yours for the summer. :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


OK, I am sure that there is a lot I don't know about her or a lot of stuff, but I have to say just in case we are jumping to judge something we don't know....

(1) you get more flies with honey than vinegar... and if you are going to get anyone to talk being nasty won't do it....
 
(2) I have seen pictures posted around that claim they are one thing and it turns out they aren't... i.e. Red and Julia... come on!!  they accused Red of  ::: ahem::: and her husband was there in the background...


now if that person is being dupliticatous... (sp) then I will be the first to  go ballastic...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Ono on June 28, 2006, 04:15:43 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Ono"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, for a long time I felt I gave my best years to a company and really got slapped in the face by the dump after 12 years.  It was an ESOP and the stocks had split off several times over those years, which had turned into a nice little nest egg.  Then the corporation began to have financial problems due to some really bad calls made by management.  It was sold to this group of speculators who took the company public and offered each employee X number of dollars per share, plus so many shares in the new company.  Well, those people took the place a little closer to ruin and I got my walking papers one day.  I then followed the stock until it dropped off the stock exchange and the company went belly up.

We shareholders wound up getting 7 cents on the dollar, which didn’t amount to a hill of beans.  My attitude started to change after that ordeal and I found refuge away from the rat race that has a few more assurances regarding benefits and 100% less stress.

Chit happens, but we just have to move on…..


Are you by chance talking about the financial woes of Kripsy Kreme? Or something else?


No, but you guys have me wanting a Krispy Kreme and a good cup of coffee and it is late in the day! lol


 :D It's never too late in the day/night for a Krispy Kreme! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:16:14 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


It is starting to seem like several very quirky things have started to happen lately.  What is it all about?  Money?  Infamy?  Self-serving BS?
[/b]

my best guess ....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: tcumom on June 28, 2006, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


It is starting to seem like several very quirky things have started to happen lately.  What is it all about?  Money?  Infamy?  Self-serving BS?
[/b]

my best guess ....

I'm listening.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 04:20:14 PM
A front page poster just said turn on MSNBC now, they will have something on the case.  Don't know if we have missed it or not.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ospainter on June 28, 2006, 04:20:56 PM
Bet his going to be on Abram's MSNBC in a few minutes, to talk about the witness.

Hi everyone,

Gotta run,

OS out


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 04:20:56 PM
Outta here for the day.
hope there will be coverage later.....

Take care Monkeys.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: casa on June 28, 2006, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
A front page poster just said turn on MSNBC now, they will have something on the case.  Don't know if we have missed it or not.


I'm at work and can't get to a tv.  Somebody let me know what you hear or see!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"

 
(2) I have seen pictures posted around that claim they are one thing and it turns out they aren't... i.e. Red and Julia... come on!!  they accused Red of  ::: ahem::: and her husband was there in the background...


Wait, is there a posted picture of Red somewhere?  Better question would be, is there a posted picture of the Mrs.??  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hey, Ya'll!!  I went to get some luggage and ended up organizing half the cabinets in the garage and sweeping the floor! :shock:  I had to stop back in here just to hone my "relaxing" skills. :lol: And just wanted to mention, before a rush to judge Kath, maybe she was undercover to get information before any of them found out what she was really up to in trying to solve Natalee's case.  Just a thought.


Hi Sweetie! 8)   How's our little world traveler.  No Separation anxiety - the monks are with you wherever you go!  Right there in your pocket with your tiara repair tools and your lace trimmed monogrammed hankie! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


OK, I am sure that there is a lot I don't know about her or a lot of stuff, but I have to say just in case we are jumping to judge something we don't know....

(1) you get more flies with honey than vinegar... and if you are going to get anyone to talk being nasty won't do it....
 
(2) I have seen pictures posted around that claim they are one thing and it turns out they aren't... i.e. Red and Julia... come on!!  they accused Red of  ::: ahem::: and her husband was there in the background...


now if that person is being dupliticatous... (sp) then I will be the first to  go ballastic...


If that is true, she could have at least given him rabbit ears while he wasn't looking!  

Has she addressed this on her blog?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


Before we go off on a tangent.....let's remember she chose to take a different route....she tried to inflitrate the enemy....rather than going after them....she is a die hard supporter of the family.....remember the old saying you get more with honey than vinegar :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"


OK, I am sure that there is a lot I don't know about her or a lot of stuff, but I have to say just in case we are jumping to judge something we don't know....

(1) you get more flies with honey than vinegar...
and if you are going to get anyone to talk being nasty won't do it....
 
(2) I have seen pictures posted around that claim they are one thing and it turns out they aren't... i.e. Red and Julia... come on!!  they accused Red of  ::: ahem::: and her husband was there in the background...


now if that person is being dupliticatous... (sp) then I will be the first to  go ballastic...


I understand what you are saying Mrs... My thoughts:  When you sleep with dogs you wake up with fleas.  jmho


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:26:45 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
A front page poster just said turn on MSNBC now, they will have something on the case.  Don't know if we have missed it or not.


Thanks Klaas!  If they show Bo Dietl serving Joran again I'm going to throw the TV away.  ha.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
A front page poster just said turn on MSNBC now, they will have something on the case.  Don't know if we have missed it or not.


I am stuck at work...so someone please fill me in!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:28:57 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
A front page poster just said turn on MSNBC now, they will have something on the case.  Don't know if we have missed it or not.


I am stuck at work...so someone please fill me in!!


Nothing yet.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 04:28:58 PM
Hold on everybody!  Let's be reasonable!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


Before we go off on a tangent.....let's remember she chose to take a different route....she tried to inflitrate the enemy....rather than going after them....she is a die hard supporter of the family.....remember the old saying you get more with honey than vinegar :wink:


I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 04:34:52 PM
OK....I have been thinking about this post by Meri...who BTW I greatly admire!  She seldom is wrong.....but this time...I have to question from where/who she got this photograph and what was the accompaning story??? If you reember Kath is the one that was actaully talking to the sporter at one one time!! Something STINKS here...not sure what yet...but the odor is becoming more and more stinky!!  Let's wait to hear from Kath :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
OK....I have been thinking about this post by Meri...who BTW I greatly admire!  She seldom is wrong.....but this time...I have to question from where/who she got this photograph and what was the accompaning story??? If you reember Kath is the one that was actaully talking to the sporter at one one time!! Something STINKS here...not sure what yet...but the odor is becoming more and more stinky!!  Let's wait to hear from Kath :wink:


I agree, let's wait to hear from Kath.  As far as the photo, I believe it's on Steve's myspace site.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:36:39 PM
MSNBC - Beth on next... talking about Carlos... doesn't seem there is anything new but will let you know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: casa on June 28, 2006, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
MSNBC - Beth on next... talking about Carlos... doesn't seem there is anything new but will let you know.


Thanks! Waiting patiently!  lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:38:40 PM
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "Frijole"
MSNBC - Beth on next... talking about Carlos... doesn't seem there is anything new but will let you know.


Thanks! Waiting patiently!  lol


LONG commercial break still!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 04:39:23 PM
Kath I am sure is just trying to get info.  Remember the night with Tito too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "mrs. red"

 
(2) I have seen pictures posted around that claim they are one thing and it turns out they aren't... i.e. Red and Julia... come on!!  they accused Red of  ::: ahem::: and her husband was there in the background...


Wait, is there a posted picture of Red somewhere?  Better question would be, is there a posted picture of the Mrs.??  ;)


on the dark side they had some pictures that claimed to be something other than what they were....

and as for me.... no, there was one that a friend took and it has been removed...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 04:40:41 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"


Before we go off on a tangent.....let's remember she chose to take a different route....she tried to inflitrate the enemy....rather than going after them....she is a die hard supporter of the family.....remember the old saying you get more with honey than vinegar :wink:


I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)


thanks TS...I have spoken with Kath....she would give her everything to help the family...I am sure of it....So who is trying to sabbotage her and why....WHO has a vendetta against her and WHY?  think about it!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 04:41:42 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"


and as for me.... no, there was one that a friend took and it has been removed...


Shucks!!  With my luck, of course it has...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 04:41:57 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
[I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)



Lots of us have emailed Joran and even more Deepak, chatted with him, etc. and this could well be something like that.  Her Blog is certainly supportive of the family and she has put plenty of hours into it as well as her trip there.  That alone is more than many of us have done, myself included.   :evil:

I will have to have more information than that before I pass a negative judgement.  JMO.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sue on June 28, 2006, 04:42:52 PM
Hi Monkey's

Long time no see, The sun is out finally been living in my pool..

But watching the news and hearing Julia R. I need to go back to my pool


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:43:14 PM
New witness - jailed since early May.

Christ, Julia on the phone

No details from ALE... but he came forward in April and says he saw Natalee being taken into the water and disposed of.

Authorities believe him due to specific details.

Also he held on to items with evidence on them.

He is illegal alien and sohe is beingheld as he'll be deported... this guy is being tough on Julia.   Lmao  She's struggling.

Witness heard screaming.  2 people went into water and 1 came back.  He also claimed he felt she was being held down by something heavy, i.e. a pipe or something.

The items found on the beach... info not released but they are saying they belong to Natalee.  They are calling him a witness and not a suspect.  They haven't released his initials so he isn't a suspect. lmao

He is needed on the island so they are jailing him.. ha ha ha

We feel this witness is important since he's been detained for almost 2 mos.  We don't know how much lnger.... continue to investigate... blah blah  Coming up next Beth.....  commercial break


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 04:44:22 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:44:40 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
[I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)



Lots of us have emailed Joran and even more Deepak, chatted with him, etc. and this could well be something like that.  Her Blog is certainly supportive of the family and she has put plenty of hours into it as well as her trip there.  That alone is more than many of us have done, myself included.   :evil:

I will have to have more information than that before I pass a negative judgement.  JMO.


and I will say she has been down in Aruba trying to help...

Sunny is right, the vendetta HAS TO END.... I wasn't referring to Kath when I said in response to Easy that it was about money and glory....

she hasn't shown me that she was about either....  but others sure have... and Kath has been burned as well...

MY 2 cents...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ


 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ospainter on June 28, 2006, 04:45:45 PM
It's JR by phone, says Carlos has evidence.

She doesn't know what evidence ALE is not talking.

Also something about his initials, he is a witness, if a suspect we would be given his initials.

There was more, just didn't get to tape it. JR just goes on and on without really saying anything, except Aruba is stillllllllllllll looking for Natalee. I can't stand her voice, well I can't stand to see her, yea, guess I just can't stand her period.

Maybe Beth will be on after the commercial.

OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ


Hey, Hotshot--
No, read it again--Easy is calling US the ignorant souls who do not know what that is supposed to be all about--NOT YOU.

Good to hear you are reconsidering removal of your website and blog.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: tcumom on June 28, 2006, 04:47:14 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ

No. No.  I think Easy's talking about people like myself being the ignorant souls 'cause we couldn't figure out who/what and all that stuff!  NOT saying you are an ignorant soul ~  :oops:  :?  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
[I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)



Lots of us have emailed Joran and even more Deepak, chatted with him, etc. and this could well be something like that.  Her Blog is certainly supportive of the family and she has put plenty of hours into it as well as her trip there.  That alone is more than many of us have done, myself included.   :evil:

I will have to have more information than that before I pass a negative judgement.  JMO.


I was reading her "Curtain Call" article at BFN and followed the link to a Richard Ulrich.  Is that a husband?  What's the story?  Did she go to Aruba and hang out at C-n-C's hoping to run into some of these people?  Has she shared anything she learned from the trip?

Just curious......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"


Before we go off on a tangent.....let's remember she chose to take a different route....she tried to inflitrate the enemy....rather than going after them....she is a die hard supporter of the family.....remember the old saying you get more with honey than vinegar :wink:


I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)


thanks TS...I have spoken with Kath....she would give her everything to help the family...I am sure of it....So who is trying to sabbotage her and why....WHO has a vendetta against her and WHY?  think about it!


I too have spoken with her...just a minute ago, as a matter of fact.  Without going into details, her intentions were to, in fact, infiltrate the "circle of lies", and get as much info as she could, while she could.  And, I applaud her for that.  Takes a lot of courage to do something like that, if you ask me...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:51:17 PM
Next up:  Beth

Note - this guy asks MUCH tougher questions than Greta, Rita etc.  Made Julia look like an idiot --- he also had read up on the case... like him.

-------

Recap of Columbian witness story.  He gathered several items which are being evaluated in Holland.

Beth:

Re roller coaster

After 12 mos. I'm a little skeptical. JKelly really pulling back on it for same reason.

Why did he wait so long?  Beth: If this transpired, why didn't he try to intervene vs. stand by and watch. Plus why didn't he come forward then?

Just waiting to see, on the forensics of the steel cable recovered from the area.

? What about the items gathered on the beach?  

Beth:  We have not heard a word back re any results from that.

?  Is this a real and active investigation?

Beth:  The only thing that I hope for is that we get justice from the NYork judge by saying yes this case wil move forward here in the state.

? Do you belive Joran is involved in this still?

Beth:  I go back to all the lies he told and the fact he was the last one seen with her... it doesn't look good for him.

End


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 04:53:39 PM
Thanks Frijole!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 28, 2006, 04:54:35 PM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 04:55:11 PM
.
Thank you, Frijole!

Oh, good for Beth!  She doesn't allow any "new witness: business to
get her all exicted nor her hopes up any more.  I think she is to be
commended because most of us, myself included would still be
jumping through their evil hoops with every promise of progress.  
She seems to have that under control so well and I truly admire her
for that.

 :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 04:55:29 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ


hey, Kath I am sorry you are being drug through the mud.....you don't deserve this....I know that your heart is with the family...hang in girl...this too will pass!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Thanks Frijole!!


No problem - sorry for the typos.  

This guy should be on in the evening.... he was so good with the followups!!!  I wish you could of heard Julia stutter.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 04:56:08 PM
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: casa on June 28, 2006, 04:56:37 PM
Thanks!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 04:57:50 PM
.
If anyone hears of any more coverage, please post in BOLD LETTERS!

Thanks!

BBLater. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Next up:  Beth

Note - this guy asks MUCH tougher questions than Greta, Rita etc.  Made Julia look like an idiot --- he also had read up on the case... like him.

-------

Recap of Columbian witness story.  He gathered several items which are being evaluated in Holland.

Beth:

Re roller coaster

After 12 mos. I'm a little skeptical. JKelly really pulling back on it for same reason.

Why did he wait so long?  Beth: If this transpired, why didn't he try to intervene vs. stand by and watch. Plus why didn't he come forward then?

Just waiting to see, on the forensics of the steel cable recovered from the area.

? What about the items gathered on the beach?  

Beth:  We have not heard a word back re any results from that.

?  Is this a real and active investigation?

Beth:  The only thing that I hope for is that we get justice from the NYork judge by saying yes this case wil move forward here in the state.

? Do you belive Joran is involved in this still?

Beth:  I go back to all the lies he told and the fact he was the last one seen with her... it doesn't look good for him.

End


thaks BEANS!  A whole bunch


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 04:58:28 PM
Quote from: "thik"
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


I think they sent it by row boat, lol  :lol:  :lol:

(http://www.timelesstrinkets.com/Smurfs/CollectorPages/images/40219.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: "thik"
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


Thik-

To quote Julia- "We really don't know anything for sure as ALE is not releasing any information".

However -  she mentioned away for testing for 2 mos. a couple times.  

Clear as mud for you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"


Before we go off on a tangent.....let's remember she chose to take a different route....she tried to inflitrate the enemy....rather than going after them....she is a die hard supporter of the family.....remember the old saying you get more with honey than vinegar :wink:


I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)


thanks TS...I have spoken with Kath....she would give her everything to help the family...I am sure of it....So who is trying to sabbotage her and why....WHO has a vendetta against her and WHY?  think about it!


I too have spoken with her...just a minute ago, as a matter of fact.  Without going into details, her intentions were to, in fact, infiltrate the "circle of lies", and get as much info as she could, while she could.  And, I applaud her for that.  Takes a lot of courage to do something like that, if you ask me...


I agree. Brass balls.  Better her than me.  I would not be able to pull it off.  The cemetary video is fascinating to say the least.  Y"all should take a look.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 04:59:17 PM
Quote from: "thik"
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


I think JQK said 6 weeks or more


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 04:59:26 PM
Beans... YOU are the BEST!!!  

Talk to you later Monkeys, keep the faith....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 05:00:22 PM
Good job, Beans.  

Nebraska girls git r done.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Beans... YOU are the BEST!!!  

Talk to you later Monkeys, keep the faith....


No - Jackie and San are the best!!  I just filled in for 'em.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"


Before we go off on a tangent.....let's remember she chose to take a different route....she tried to inflitrate the enemy....rather than going after them....she is a die hard supporter of the family.....remember the old saying you get more with honey than vinegar :wink:


I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)


thanks TS...I have spoken with Kath....she would give her everything to help the family...I am sure of it....So who is trying to sabbotage her and why....WHO has a vendetta against her and WHY?  think about it!

Actually I am guessing this originated from the darkside......Let it now be known I am on the "STRATEGIC TEAM" for Natalee, or was.  Meri is also.  She knows nothoing about me, nor did she try to inquire as to who I am, or what I do.  or did.  About 2 hours ago, I got this letter....
HI everyone, please look at this attachment from Meri and you will understand why I am removing Kathy  from the team. XX  No-one even bothered to ask what it was all about.  Well here goes.....Mrs. Red, you are right, you catch more with honey then vinigar.  I have been chatting with them, in hopes of a slip, here and there.  Now they will read this and never talk to me again, with thanks to Meri letting it display on her site.  I can't and won't go into detail about what else I did in Aruba, but I will say the family knows about me, and what was done.  I am not a dark sider, and never will be.  But I am going for shutting down the darkside RIGHT  NOW!  If any of you have any questions feel free to email me on my email in my profile....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 05:01:32 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Good job, Beans.  

Nebraska girls git r done.


Yes sireeee..

By the way - I promised Justinsmama I"d post the Runza recipe I have.  It's in the lounge if you don't have one.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: klaasend
Quote from: "thik"
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


I think they sent it by row boat, lol  :lol:  :lol:

Glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humour klaas'   and I'm bettin the ''boat rower'' is on vacation...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "thik"
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


Thik-

To quote Julia- "We really don't know anything for sure as ALE is not releasing any information".

However -  she mentioned away for testing for 2 mos. a couple times.  

Clear as mud for you?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing as concise as interviewing someone who ''don't know anything for sure

more empty words and meaningless gestures....BS  !!!!!

God Bless Natalee, Wherever She Is...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 05:07:45 PM
So Joran could be the ,,,,,,,,''cable guy''  ????

Sorry   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 05:07:48 PM
Hotshot, you're above these doubts; just put on a tiara and ignore them.  Natalee's family certainly knows where your heart is.  Sunny, you are so right; let's all get oriented.  Think about it:  someone was leading a lot of people at SM down a path (it wasn't Tyler, so I'm omitting the proverbial description of a "rose-covered path"); then that person got mad and left, Hotshot was kind of blamed for that departure; pure jealousy of her is what that came off sounding like.  Since then, the supporters of the other person have been making more and more cries for attention.  This latest implication against Hotshot just looks like more feeble attempts along those lines.  Anyone who has followed this case, and been familiar with Kath, knows her efforts on behalf of Natalee's family.  Good grief, early on I was certainly no fan of hers (I will insert here that the Masons, as a group, are oblivious to this crime), but I've learned, over time, that she is one person who has not only supported Natalee's family, but backed up her support with action.  Oh, and that's not to mention all the other people who would love to thwart this case ever being solved who would just love to discredit the efforts of people like Kath who have made a positive difference in this case.  So, everyone, get real; stop turning on each other.  I thought everyone here was on Natalee's side, afterall.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: "thik"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "thik"
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


Thik-

To quote Julia- "We really don't know anything for sure as ALE is not releasing any information".

However -  she mentioned away for testing for 2 mos. a couple times.  

Clear as mud for you?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nothing as concise as interviewing someone who ''don't know anything for sure

more empty words and meaningless gestures....BS  !!!!!

God Bless Natalee, Wherever She Is...


For sure Thik.

I'm guessing the evidence is in that infamous drawer along with the belt, the numerous bones, and lord know what else!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: "thik"
So Joran could be the ,,,,,,,,''cable guy''  ????

Sorry   :roll:


Very very good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 28, 2006, 05:09:38 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
I am exactly who I say I am.  Always have been.  Always will be.


Me too Peaches.....and way behind as always..... :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hotshot, you're above these doubts; just put on a tiara and ignore them.  Natalee's family certainly knows where your heart is.  Sunny, you are so right; let's all get oriented.  Think about it:  someone was leading a lot of people at SM down a path (it wasn't Tyler, so I'm omitting the proverbial description of a "rose-covered path"); then that person got mad and left, Hotshot was kind of blamed for that departure; pure jealousy of her is what that came off sounding like.  Since then, the supporters of the other person have been making more and more cries for attention.  This latest implication against Hotshot just looks like more feeble attempts along those lines.  Anyone who has followed this case, and been familiar with Kath, knows her efforts on behalf of Natalee's family.  Good grief, early on I was certainly no fan of hers (I will insert here that the Masons, as a group, are oblivious to this crime), but I've learned, over time, that she is one person who has not only supported Natalee's family, but backed up her support with action.  Oh, and that's not to mention all the other people who would love to thwart this case ever being solved who would just love to discredit the efforts of people like Kath who have made a positive difference in this case.  So, everyone, get real; stop turning on each other.  I thought everyone here was on Natalee's side, afterall.


Darlene, you just brought tears to my eyes.  Thank-you so very much!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 05:12:08 PM
After hearing specifics on this "new" witness, and the supposed "physical evidence", I'm even MORE skeptical then I was before!!  How can any analysis on evidence in a case of this magnitude take upwards of 6 weeks to process?  It baffles the mind...

This guy is full of chit, as is the evidence he claims to posses... :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hotshot, you're above these doubts; just put on a tiara and ignore them.  Natalee's family certainly knows where your heart is.  Sunny, you are so right; let's all get oriented.  Think about it:  someone was leading a lot of people at SM down a path (it wasn't Tyler, so I'm omitting the proverbial description of a "rose-covered path"); then that person got mad and left, Hotshot was kind of blamed for that departure; pure jealousy of her is what that came off sounding like.  Since then, the supporters of the other person have been making more and more cries for attention.  This latest implication against Hotshot just looks like more feeble attempts along those lines.  Anyone who has followed this case, and been familiar with Kath, knows her efforts on behalf of Natalee's family.  Good grief, early on I was certainly no fan of hers (I will insert here that the Masons, as a group, are oblivious to this crime), but I've learned, over time, that she is one person who has not only supported Natalee's family, but backed up her support with action.  Oh, and that's not to mention all the other people who would love to thwart this case ever being solved who would just love to discredit the efforts of people like Kath who have made a positive difference in this case.  So, everyone, get real; stop turning on each other.  I thought everyone here was on Natalee's side, afterall.


Darlene, you just brought tears to my eyes.  Thank-you so very much!!


But Darleen...how can I give her a tiara if the Avatar's aren't working??  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 05:15:20 PM
Hahaha; Ya'll bunch of brownsers:  Klaasend can't do everything, afterall!!!!  I guess you'll just have to wait and give it to her whenever the avatars are fixed, Klaasend!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
After hearing specifics on this "new" witness, and the supposed "physical evidence", I'm even MORE skeptical then I was before!!  How can any analysis on evidence in a case of this magnitude take upwards of 6 weeks to process?  It baffles the mind...

This guy is full of chit, as is the evidence he claims to posses... :roll:


I agree,, another ''ringer'' to consume time and deviate,,from the  corruption.
Might have a condom,, got some cable, can't ID ''cable guy'', he's probably negotiating this to stay on ''paradise'' and not get deported..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 05:17:14 PM
Oh, and Klaasend, don't make it bigger than Nonesasha's (she has always wanted the biggest tiara the most :lol: )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 05:18:21 PM
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: da_wench on June 28, 2006, 05:18:29 PM
Gooooood afternoon sugar monkeys.

I haven't had the time to hang out in the cage lately.  Can someone please tell me what type of cable is being referred to as possible evidence?  Also, where did the video come from that shows the bag that is being talked about?  A woman's face, a hand, rats, etc?  I see what looks like a hand, but that's it.  It seems to me that if it were body and people can see it through the bag, wouldn't it have been even more obvious to the person taking the video?  I don't understand the purpose of the video.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 05:18:59 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
After hearing specifics on this "new" witness, and the supposed "physical evidence", I'm even MORE skeptical then I was before!!  How can any analysis on evidence in a case of this magnitude take upwards of 6 weeks to process?  It baffles the mind...

This guy is full of chit, as is the evidence he claims to posses... :roll:

I'm not convinced this guy is full-of-it yet! I AM convinced that there is still someone in power that is laying roadblocks in the investigation.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 05:19:34 PM
And you're welcome, Hotshot!!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 28, 2006, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Hey Get Your Program Here .............

Know The Players By Their Numbers ..............

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 05:23:35 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


That makes 2 of us!

I feel like I am in the twilight zone.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 05:24:24 PM
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Hey Get Your Program Here .............

Know The Players By Their Numbers ..............

 8)


I'll take one please....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 05:24:27 PM
Quote from: "beachwego"
Good Morning y'all!

Hiya Sunny!  

Is Jerry from Ohio still here?

  Am back at 5:30PM EST
   Jerry  or ya can e mail me


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 05:25:26 PM
Quick, Widget!!!  Lots of coffee in here!!  Some people have evidently been attending way too many happy hours while this case has been going on!!!! :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 05:26:13 PM
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Hey Get Your Program Here .............

Know The Players By Their Numbers ..............

 8)


Can I get #9?  That's my number...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 28, 2006, 05:26:40 PM
Hotshot/Kath:  I support you 100%.   Please read the following to know that you are in good company:
http://tinyurl.com/zgtb7


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 05:26:47 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
And you're welcome, Hotshot!!  :D
:lol:

And a big thanks to all who know what is going on with me, and the venture of doing what I have done.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 05:27:16 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


That makes 2 of us!

I feel like I am in the twilight zone.


Yeah, I think I just heard the familiar theme music!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 28, 2006, 05:27:21 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Quick, Widget!!!  Lots of coffee in here!!  Some people have evidently been attending way too many happy hours while this case has been going on!!!! :lol:  :lol:


Hola Darleen ...........

Abrazos & Besos ..........

Pura Vida

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


That makes 2 of us!

I feel like I am in the twilight zone.



I honestly believe that is the intent, and ''they're'' succeeding.  There is not one visible person with any credibilty whatsoever,, over there, exclude Jossy, but that's just not enough.
How sad..... to be spectators' in this endless nightmare for the famiily.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: bamajo on June 28, 2006, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


That makes 2 of us!

I feel like I am in the twilight zone.


do-do-do....  me three!  i'm right with you two.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 28, 2006, 05:29:08 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Hey Get Your Program Here .............

Know The Players By Their Numbers ..............

 8)


Can I get #9?  That's my number...;)


THat Number Is Reserved For ...........

Love Potion ...............

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 05:29:25 PM
Well, Hotshot, you've done way too much to let your distractors win.  And, anyway, your distractors are only talk.  And talk is cheap.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 05:30:58 PM
Abrazos?  Are you sending me brazen kisses, Widget? :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 05:31:48 PM
Arubassilence = Meri Ulrich?  Hotshot = Kath = undercover operative for Meri?

Is that close to what I am reading here?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 28, 2006, 05:31:50 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Abrazos?  Are you sending me brazen kisses, Widget? :D


Huggs & Kisses ................

 :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: bamajo on June 28, 2006, 05:33:08 PM
LOL darleen!  how are you?  how was your trip?

and widget, i will be singing that song for the rest of the day now.  'tis stuck in my head!  "love potion number niiiiiiiinnnnnne....."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 28, 2006, 05:33:13 PM
Too Bad Natalee Was'nt Isrealie .................

 :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 28, 2006, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: "bamajo"
LOL darleen!  how are you?  how was your trip?

and widget, i will be singing that song for the rest of the day now.  'tis stuck in my head!  "love potion number niiiiiiiinnnnnne....."


LOL

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 05:36:26 PM
Quote from: "bamajo"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


That makes 2 of us!

I feel like I am in the twilight zone.


do-do-do....  me three!  i'm right with you two.
:lol: WOw, I am in such good company!!! 2 hunks!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 05:40:13 PM
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 05:40:31 PM
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Too Bad Natalee Was'nt Isrealie .................

 :roll:



If that were the case,, Aruba would be 'coral reef' right abouts now..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: bamajo on June 28, 2006, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
[:lol: WOw, I am in such good company!!! 2 hunks!!


ahem... (giggle) i am a hunkette.  LOL!   :D but easy is certainly a hunk!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 28, 2006, 05:41:14 PM
THere Must Be HEAT In Aruba .............

800 Kilos Of Cocaine Going To Rotterdam Busted In Costa Rica ..........

Cocaine Was Hidden In Exported Furniture & Also Cans Of Palmito ..........

Normally An Easy Run From Aruba To Holland ..............

 :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 05:42:09 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Arubassilence = Meri Ulrich?  Hotshot = Kath = undercover operative for Meri?

Is that close to what I am reading here?


NO, kath=arubassilence=hotshot................Meri is a darkside reader who obviously believes in them


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "thik"
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


Thik-

To quote Julia- "We really don't know anything for sure as ALE is not releasing any information".

However -  she mentioned away for testing for 2 mos. a couple times.  

Clear as mud for you?


SOunds like since her buddy dumpig is gone julia isn't getting any insider info!!!  Aw Shucks!! :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 28, 2006, 05:43:52 PM
That's nice, too, Widget! :D

Hey, Bama!  Leaving Friday, celebrating Independence Day on a foreign golf course.  :roll:

I have to go now, but, really, everybody, get a grip; stand together or fall apart.  One doesn't have to have been around here from the beginning to know of Hotshot's efforts on Natalee's behalf; there's a lot of documentation of it around; just stay focused and pay attention.  Don't allow yourselves to be led down any (excuse me for this, Tyler, because I don't mean you) garden paths.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Beans... YOU are the BEST!!!  

Talk to you later Monkeys, keep the faith....


No - Jackie and San are the best!!  I just filled in for 'em.   :wink:


You all are the BEST.....And I am sure I don't tell each of you that enuf!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 28, 2006, 05:47:50 PM
For your viewing enjoyment:
Kath/Hotshot is the Black Spy
http://tinyurl.com/hj6kj
Who the H*** is Meri Ulrich?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"


Before we go off on a tangent.....let's remember she chose to take a different route....she tried to inflitrate the enemy....rather than going after them....she is a die hard supporter of the family.....remember the old saying you get more with honey than vinegar :wink:


I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)


thanks TS...I have spoken with Kath....she would give her everything to help the family...I am sure of it....So who is trying to sabbotage her and why....WHO has a vendetta against her and WHY?  think about it!

Actually I am guessing this originated from the darkside......Let it now be known I am on the "STRATEGIC TEAM" for Natalee, or was.  Meri is also.  She knows nothoing about me, nor did she try to inquire as to who I am, or what I do.  or did.  About 2 hours ago, I got this letter....
HI everyone, please look at this attachment from Meri and you will understand why I am removing Kathy  from the team. XX  No-one even bothered to ask what it was all about.  Well here goes.....Mrs. Red, you are right, you catch more with honey then vinigar.  I have been chatting with them, in hopes of a slip, here and there.  Now they will read this and never talk to me again, with thanks to Meri letting it display on her site.  I can't and won't go into detail about what else I did in Aruba, but I will say the family knows about me, and what was done.  I am not a dark sider, and never will be.  But I am going for shutting down the darkside RIGHT  NOW!  If any of you have any questions feel free to email me on my email in my profile....


how can we help???  email me!  Kath I am so sorry about this.....and hopefully you will be able to straighten it out...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thik on June 28, 2006, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "thik"
How long has the ''cable'' and  alledged other 'possible'' evidence been at NFI ?   Anyone know ?


Thik-

To quote Julia- "We really don't know anything for sure as ALE is not releasing any information".

However -  she mentioned away for testing for 2 mos. a couple times.  

Clear as mud for you?


SOunds like since her buddy dumpig is gone julia isn't getting any insider info!!!  Aw Shucks!! :shock:


What's ''General Dumpig"" up to these days,,, ''crime consultant'' ??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Good job, Beans.  

Nebraska girls git r done.


Yes sireeee..

By the way - I promised Justinsmama I"d post the Runza recipe I have.  It's in the lounge if you don't have one.   :lol:


thanks Beans...I'll go check it out!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 05:52:39 PM
A Man or a woman ( hows that for being PC which im usually not  LOL) but if you cant be a person of word and have honor  then what do yo really have when you lay your head down at nite to go to sleep ?
   I have always worked for my self  and though I have paid many prices for doing so I still believe that to be a REAL person of worth and intergrety ,
 you have to "Ride for the brand "
  If you take a mans money  then by all means work for HIM ! and if a time comes when you can't do that, then pick up your pay and ride off .
   Jerry from Ohio  :)


Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Morning Monkeys.  I realize I am naive and generally believe that people are who they tell me they are.  I've always been upright and honest, as a person.  I really believe most of the people in this forum are, also.   :D   Anyway, I read this article http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/06/did_nvidia_hire_an_a.html and thought I would pass it along.  

It's made me think twice about some posters on this and other boards, and encouraged me to not react as quickly to inflammatory ideas or those I disagree with.  I have a tendency to respond too quickly sometimes when people offer ideas that are just "out there."  I need to stop, think, and respond rationally, or not at all.  Now that the judge's decision is due, we might find more "trolls," and we see people actually paid to promote certain points of view on the message boards.  Abhorrent to me as this is, it was an eye-opener to realize that it does occur.  Just passing along the ideas.


thanks for the link.....I have always believed this...but became positive when I saw some posters on Natalee related boards!! I can personally think of one person who I really liked and admired......who suddenly flipped over....I was shocked....but soon came to understand that many people can be bought for $$$ or other things to post in a certain way.....so sad.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 05:58:47 PM
Jerry from Ohio,

I like that its simple and I like simple..

Anything else on tonight about the case?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hotshot, you're above these doubts; just put on a tiara and ignore them.  Natalee's family certainly knows where your heart is.  Sunny, you are so right; let's all get oriented.  Think about it:  someone was leading a lot of people at SM down a path (it wasn't Tyler, so I'm omitting the proverbial description of a "rose-covered path"); then that person got mad and left, Hotshot was kind of blamed for that departure; pure jealousy of her is what that came off sounding like.  Since then, the supporters of the other person have been making more and more cries for attention.  This latest implication against Hotshot just looks like more feeble attempts along those lines.  Anyone who has followed this case, and been familiar with Kath, knows her efforts on behalf of Natalee's family.  Good grief, early on I was certainly no fan of hers (I will insert here that the Masons, as a group, are oblivious to this crime), but I've learned, over time, that she is one person who has not only supported Natalee's family, but backed up her support with action.  Oh, and that's not to mention all the other people who would love to thwart this case ever being solved who would just love to discredit the efforts of people like Kath who have made a positive difference in this case.  So, everyone, get real; stop turning on each other.  I thought everyone here was on Natalee's side, afterall.


Darlene, you just brought tears to my eyes.  Thank-you so very much!!


Hear, hear, for both of you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Heck, I know whose on third and I know who I am and Kath has been working undercover since last summer, but some of us knew that.  :)  Some of us knew she talked to the sporter and others.  I even talked Satish trying to reach Deepak.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 06:04:14 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Heck, I know whose on third and I know who I am and Kath has been working undercover since last summer, but some of us knew that.  :)  Some of us knew she talked to the sporter and others.  I even talked Satish trying to reach Deepak.


Yeahhhhhh.  She's got it!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 06:05:17 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hotshot, you're above these doubts; just put on a tiara and ignore them.  Natalee's family certainly knows where your heart is.  Sunny, you are so right; let's all get oriented.  Think about it:  someone was leading a lot of people at SM down a path (it wasn't Tyler, so I'm omitting the proverbial description of a "rose-covered path"); then that person got mad and left, Hotshot was kind of blamed for that departure; pure jealousy of her is what that came off sounding like.  Since then, the supporters of the other person have been making more and more cries for attention.  This latest implication against Hotshot just looks like more feeble attempts along those lines.  Anyone who has followed this case, and been familiar with Kath, knows her efforts on behalf of Natalee's family.  Good grief, early on I was certainly no fan of hers (I will insert here that the Masons, as a group, are oblivious to this crime), but I've learned, over time, that she is one person who has not only supported Natalee's family, but backed up her support with action.  Oh, and that's not to mention all the other people who would love to thwart this case ever being solved who would just love to discredit the efforts of people like Kath who have made a positive difference in this case.  So, everyone, get real; stop turning on each other.  I thought everyone here was on Natalee's side, afterall.


We are Darleen....good post....and why in the hell is your avatar showing up and no one else's is??  Oh fergetaboutit!!! :wink:  Silly question!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Why can't we get a break?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 06:06:40 PM
Quote from: "bamajo"
Quote from: "Frijole"
[:lol: WOw, I am in such good company!!! 2 hunks!!


ahem... (giggle) i am a hunkette.  LOL!   :D but easy is certainly a hunk!


So sorry  :oops: I get you and Gunslinger confused for some reason!  I need the avatars for reference.  Still - I was in good company!  lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 28, 2006, 06:06:50 PM
BonDia  June 28, 2006
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/28/A-28-06-2006.pdf
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/28/B-28-06-2006.pdf
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/28/C-28-06-2006.pdf


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 06:08:10 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Why can't we get a break?


There seems to be no breaks to be had over there.  But, things like this may actually help more then they hurt.  Why?  Because, hopefully the judge currently considering the civil suit will see thibgs like this as a good enough reason to allow it to be heard in NY state.  At least that way, a more balanced and fair system will oversee the process...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 06:08:43 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......



Oh, NO!!  EASY, say it ain't so. . .. . . . . . .. .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Quote from: "Peaches"
I am exactly who I say I am.  Always have been.  Always will be.


Me too Peaches.....and way behind as always..... :D


hahahaha...welcome to my world :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: da_wench on June 28, 2006, 06:09:30 PM
How can I post a pic in the cage, please?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: "da_wench"
How can I post a pic in the cage, please?


It has to be on a website first like www.photobucket.com.  Then you copy the IMG tag and post it in the forum.  If it's already on the internet, then you can just copy the properties, paste it and add the IMG tags to the front and back.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: lexie on June 28, 2006, 06:11:40 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......



Oh, NO!!  EASY, say it ain't so. . .. . . . . . .. .


If he is lying, how does he have so many details?  Details that prompted the search for and location of the cable/pipe?  He must know something of use to prosecutor.... or his butt would have been deported already... like the gardner.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 06:11:41 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "da_wench"
How can I post a pic in the cage, please?


It has to be on a website first like www.photobucket.com.  Then you copy the IMG tag and post it in the forum.  If it's already on the internet, then you can just copy the properties, paste it and add the IMG tags to the front and back.

<IMG>


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 06:12:08 PM
OK... y'all I am going off topic to be on topic...

Kath you have our support.. it's all good.... :wink:


I was talking via email with someone about the video of BO.D... and why that is being played all of the time...

and this morning it occured to me that they are floating a trial ballon for filing of imperfect service or some other crap if the Judge rules in our favor......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 06:12:09 PM
I don't like "secrets" and  "I'm telling you this in confidence." Words that, in the best case, should need never be said. But if they are said, they should be heeded with the utmost attention. I'm very aware of it, though. I'm very careful not to reveal things that other people tell me in confidence, whether they tell me that it's a secret or not. Most of the time it's pretty obvious. And even if it doesn't seem like something that would hurt someone if revealed, it's just not the right thing to do. When someone confides in you, and tells you their hopes and dreams and ideas, they're placing an enormous trust in you. Trust that you will understand and listen, trust that you won't denigrate them or laugh at them, and trust that it will go no further. It's an honor to be entrusted with someone's secrets, an honor that should never be betrayed. There are secrets, of course, that can't be kept. If you have knowledge that someone is being abused or hurt in a way that can't be allowed to continue, you have to use your best judgment in telling whoever can put a stop to it. Or if someone is in trouble and someone needs to be told, you have to be mature enough to recognize those kinds of situations and act on them. But that's not what I'm talking about here.  I'm talking about the kinds of things that might simply be interesting to pass on, or that you think might elevate you in the eyes of someone else were you to tell them. When you're tempted to do that, contrast the feelings--the feeling that you may generate momentary envy or interest by revealing someone else's secret against the feeling that you have a friend who knows they can trust you, who knows that you will keep their private thoughts private. There is no greater feeling, as far as I'm concerned, than that of knowing that you can be trusted. To be the type of person who can be told something in confidence and trusted that it will go no further..   It's nice to have secrets, but it's even nicer to have someone that you can share them with, someone that you can talk with and discuss things with, and know that they won't betray your confidence.  It's a terrible feeling when someone finds out that their secrets have been divulged to someone other than the person they told them to. It happens. It's fun to gossip, to "know" things, but that fun is fleeting, and in no way compares to the fun of having someone to whom you can reveal your deepest thoughts and know that they will stay confidential. And the fun of having someone who trusts you implicitly because you've never done anything to betray that trust.  It may seem like a small thing, but it's not. It's enormous. Keeping someone else's confidence is one of the most important things you will ever do, and one that can give you the most reward. It may seem unimportant or meaningless to tell someone else's secrets, but it's not worth the pain that it can cause. There's a lot to be said for openness and honesty, but sometimes it's better to keep silent and to keep a secret. Fall backward into the arms of trust, and know that you will be caught, and know that you can provide those arms for someone else as well.  I think maybe thats why I find Julia so replusive and have no compassion for her.. Natalee's family needed someone that they could trust and she used that need for her own purpose..I wonder if her Mother taught her that, not something to be proud of..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: da_wench on June 28, 2006, 06:12:15 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "da_wench"
How can I post a pic in the cage, please?


It has to be on a website first like www.photobucket.com.  Then you copy the IMG tag and post it in the forum.  If it's already on the internet, then you can just copy the properties, paste it and add the IMG tags to the front and back.


Thankies, Klaas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 06:12:35 PM
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Hey Get Your Program Here .............

Know The Players By Their Numbers ..............

 8)


hahahah...we can always count on you Widget!!! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 06:14:16 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Hey Get Your Program Here .............

Know The Players By Their Numbers ..............

 8)


hahahah...we can always count on you Widget!!! :D
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 06:16:54 PM
.
Hotshot/Kath has maintained arubassilence.com website for months and that alone is more than most of us have done.  It is very pro-Natalee's family and supportive of them.

Additionally, she has traveled to Aruba to take videos and try to find out anything first hand.  Many of us have tried contacting the suspects, etc. by email, etc. under the pretense of friendship or just openly asking questions.  I am really surprised that in light of this being so well known, Meri (who normally writes very fine articles) would have jumped to such strange conclusions.  

But we do know of someone who used to post here who has a sort of vendetta against her.  Remember she gave the mystery videos to America's Most Wanted who did not even use them.  But it was an attempt to try to get some coverage of them.  And for that she was soundly trashed.  Apparently some think she needs permission from them to do these sorts of things.  Never understood that but no one owns them, we could all send them anywhere.  They have been publicly posted, etc.  I am all for as many people seeing them as possible.

But don't feel too bad, Hotshot.  I have been trashed a couple of times myself.  Front Page articles by Dan R and my own threads at the Refugees, etc.  

THIS TOO SHALL PASS!    :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 28, 2006, 06:17:24 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

This is bad news. There has to be more to it, though. Steve Croes did the same thing and only spent 8 days in jail. Being an illegal would have had him deported by now. And if he was a suspect i think we would have heard of court proceedings.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 06:18:49 PM
Widget-

You've made the most insightful post of the day, it is an assemblage of da players. Who's next on the chess board today?  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 06:20:41 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Easy - are you hearing this from you friend or elsewhere?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 06:20:58 PM
Anna-

I'd most respectfully say I am interested in the truth and only the truth. I am not sure we're there quite yet.

Take care all !


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

This is bad news. There has to be more to it, though. Steve Croes did the same thing and only spent 8 days in jail. Being an illegal would have had him deported by now. And if he was a suspect i think we would have heard of court proceedings.


I still think they are floating him as a set up....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 06:23:39 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

This is bad news. There has to be more to it, though. Steve Croes did the same thing and only spent 8 days in jail. Being an illegal would have had him deported by now. And if he was a suspect i think we would have heard of court proceedings.

Again -- is the "witness" lying or those "controlling" the case lying??? Every "witness" that has been brought in is "deemed" to be lying. I don't buy it anymore.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 06:24:12 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Anna-

I'd most respectfully say I am interested in the truth and only the truth. I am not sure we're there quite yet.

Take care all !



Yes, as are we all, None.  No, we still have a long way to go.  On all counts.

Widget,  Yes you are correct that this would have been resolved one way or the other had the Israelis been in charge.  They don't mess around, do they?

Well, so I think we knew the new witness was just a bit flaky from the start so this should not really change much.   :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Please be wrong !!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 06:27:40 PM
I just think all these witnesses just muddy the water and just takes the attention away from those that know what happen that night.. When the rearrest the original PIMPS then I will get excited..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 28, 2006, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I just think all these witnesses just muddy the water and just takes the attention away from those that know what happen that night.. When the rearrest the original PIMPS then I will get excited..

I agree Terry.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: da_wench on June 28, 2006, 06:32:20 PM
Okay monkeys, I don't know what y'all think about the "body bag" that is being discussed on the front page, but this is by far, the clearest pic I've seen.  It gives me the creeps BIG TIME becuase this looks like Natalee in the bag.  What do you think?
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/da_wench_2006/itsher.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I just think all these witnesses just muddy the water and just takes the attention away from those that know what happen that night.. When the rearrest the original PIMPS then I will get excited..

yes... I still don't understand why the hell these 3 kids are worth an entire island taking a hit for.... there is more to it... gotta be!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: da_wench on June 28, 2006, 06:34:12 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I just think all these witnesses just muddy the water and just takes the attention away from those that know what happen that night.. When the rearrest the original PIMPS then I will get excited..

yes... I still don't understand why the hell these 3 kids are worth an entire island taking a hit for.... there is more to it... gotta be!!


One mistake after another.  One little lie...one little coverup...and then the American cowboys won't let go of it and they have to keep lying and keep covering up until everyone in power is involved.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 28, 2006, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: "wreck"

Again -- is the "witness" lying or those "controlling" the case lying??? Every "witness" that has been brought in is "deemed" to be lying. I don't buy it anymore.

Well, yea. Me neither. BTW...been reading the RWV archives recently and found a good deal of your input interesting. It's great to have participating over here now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I just think all these witnesses just muddy the water and just takes the attention away from those that know what happen that night.. When the rearrest the original PIMPS then I will get excited..

I agree Terry.

I think what infuriates me the most is that ArubaTHINKS we are all "stupid Americans" and that they have "pulled-one-over" on us. It makes me more determined to crush them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Why can't we get a break?


Well, this ain't it. :(

The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: lexie on June 28, 2006, 06:37:16 PM
With arubatruth and scrux going down, the blogs that have been supportive of the family can probably expect troll attacks to disrupt things.  I suspect that there are many who would attempt to sabotage posters who have been long-time vocal supporters of the family.  And many others who just like to stir the pot.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 06:37:20 PM
da_wench - next time highlight it once you've pasted it in you message then click on the IMG button.  I fixed it for you. :wink:  Or, from photobucket you can simply copy the IMG tag and paste it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: "da_wench"
Okay monkeys, I don't know what y'all think about the "body bag" that is being discussed on the front page, but this is by far, the clearest pic I've seen.  It gives me the creeps BIG TIME becuase this looks like Natalee in the bag.  What do you think?
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/da_wench_2006/itsher.jpg

first time I have seen it... gave me the chills.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 06:39:34 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Why can't we get a break?


Well, this ain't it. :(

The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!


Geeze - so what the heck is Julia Renfro talking about.  She has to know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 28, 2006, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I just think all these witnesses just muddy the water and just takes the attention away from those that know what happen that night.. When the rearrest the original PIMPS then I will get excited..

I agree Terry.

I think what infuriates me the most is that ArubaTHINKS we are all "stupid Americans" and that they have "pulled-one-over" on us. It makes me more determined to crush them.

That's it for me also.  How this one little POS island thinks we are that dumb.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: da_wench on June 28, 2006, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
da_wench - next time highlight it once you've pasted it in you message then click on the IMG button.  I fixed it for you. :wink:  Or, from photobucket you can simply copy the IMG tag and paste it.


Thanks sugar...me computer dumb.  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 28, 2006, 06:42:25 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"

The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!

Thanks Easy.

Well, if Carlos is an idiot what does that say about the authorities that believed him?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 06:43:09 PM
ok then Easy, thanks for that message.

Might be wiser to focus on finding out WHY Carlos would lie and for WHAT personal gain????

Far better to discuss that than the many players please.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Why can't we get a break?


Well, this ain't it. :(

The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!


Geeze - so what the heck is Julia Renfro talking about.  She has to know.


she is like bizzaro day on Seinfeld or so... what ever she says is wrong...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 06:47:07 PM
save my place, bbl


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 06:47:31 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
ok then Easy, thanks for that message.

Might be wiser to focus on finding out WHY Carlos would lie and for WHAT personal gain????

Far better to discuss that than the many players please.


I think it is as simple as money.  Apparently, some of what he said had the ring of truth about it and held some people's interest.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 06:47:37 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
.
Hotshot/Kath has maintained arubassilence.com website for months and that alone is more than most of us have done.  It is very pro-Natalee's family and supportive of them.

Additionally, she has traveled to Aruba to take videos and try to find out anything first hand.  Many of us have tried contacting the suspects, etc. by email, etc. under the pretense of friendship or just openly asking questions.  I am really surprised that in light of this being so well known, Meri (who normally writes very fine articles) would have jumped to such strange conclusions.  

But we do know of someone who used to post here who has a sort of vendetta against her.  Remember she gave the mystery videos to America's Most Wanted who did not even use them.  But it was an attempt to try to get some coverage of them.  And for that she was soundly trashed.  Apparently some think she needs permission from them to do these sorts of things.  Never understood that but no one owns them, we could all send them anywhere.  They have been publicly posted, etc.  I am all for as many people seeing them as possible.

But don't feel too bad, Hotshot.  I have been trashed a couple of times myself.  Front Page articles by Dan R and my own threads at the Refugees, etc.  

THIS TOO SHALL PASS!    :D

Yes I hear you Anna.  But we were on the Strategic Team what gives her the right to do what she did to me in that manner?  I mean taking crap over from the Refugee site?  I would think they would have known me better then that.  Spite is what is happening here.  This is about Natalee, not dragging people up for what ever reason they feel so to do today.  I think someone didn't have their meds today or something....Not talking US either.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 06:48:57 PM
Wreck,

I think that Aruba has an image of Americans that they get from those that come there for SEX, DRUGS and pedofiles from the US.  What happen is someone forgot and crossed the lines and raped and killed an innocent girl..  Their image of us is the above and feel that all Americans fit in the above category and that Aruba is just a big play ground for the PIMPS to play on.. If this happen and I am not sure it hasn't happen before, they thought no big deal, its just an American tourist here that got what they deserve..  The island is a big facade and I do believe the island will sink from this coverup.  I think most Americans that invest oversea's take a big risk anyway and now I believe that risk is too high for most investors..  I Dutch will leave and find another playground and the others on that island will exist and blame everyone but themselves.. I want to think all Natalee families haters are Dutch and Aruban but there are those that are Americans and that I find the most disgusting..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 06:51:47 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Well, I am just more confused than ever about all of this.

Who is Who?


Heck, I know whose on third and I know who I am and Kath has been working undercover since last summer, but some of us knew that.  :)  Some of us knew she talked to the sporter and others.  I even talked Satish trying to reach Deepak.


Dang Tyler!!  You go girl!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 06:54:12 PM
I instant messaged on yahoo once with Deepak? Is that being undercover? I had no idea...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 06:55:01 PM
A real witness will be someone that has a heart and a conscious and I think we actually found a place on earth that has no one except a lone person (jossy).  I never understood how an American can hate America so much.. If I hated my country, I would leave.. If I hate my job, I leave.. If I hate my spouse or kids, I leave.. I don't destroy my home, my family, my country.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 06:56:40 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I don't like "secrets" and  "I'm telling you this in confidence." Words that, in the best case, should need never be said. But if they are said, they should be heeded with the utmost attention. I'm very aware of it, though. I'm very careful not to reveal things that other people tell me in confidence, whether they tell me that it's a secret or not. Most of the time it's pretty obvious. And even if it doesn't seem like something that would hurt someone if revealed, it's just not the right thing to do. When someone confides in you, and tells you their hopes and dreams and ideas, they're placing an enormous trust in you. Trust that you will understand and listen, trust that you won't denigrate them or laugh at them, and trust that it will go no further. It's an honor to be entrusted with someone's secrets, an honor that should never be betrayed. There are secrets, of course, that can't be kept. If you have knowledge that someone is being abused or hurt in a way that can't be allowed to continue, you have to use your best judgment in telling whoever can put a stop to it. Or if someone is in trouble and someone needs to be told, you have to be mature enough to recognize those kinds of situations and act on them. But that's not what I'm talking about here.  I'm talking about the kinds of things that might simply be interesting to pass on, or that you think might elevate you in the eyes of someone else were you to tell them. When you're tempted to do that, contrast the feelings--the feeling that you may generate momentary envy or interest by revealing someone else's secret against the feeling that you have a friend who knows they can trust you, who knows that you will keep their private thoughts private. There is no greater feeling, as far as I'm concerned, than that of knowing that you can be trusted. To be the type of person who can be told something in confidence and trusted that it will go no further..   It's nice to have secrets, but it's even nicer to have someone that you can share them with, someone that you can talk with and discuss things with, and know that they won't betray your confidence.  It's a terrible feeling when someone finds out that their secrets have been divulged to someone other than the person they told them to. It happens. It's fun to gossip, to "know" things, but that fun is fleeting, and in no way compares to the fun of having someone to whom you can reveal your deepest thoughts and know that they will stay confidential. And the fun of having someone who trusts you implicitly because you've never done anything to betray that trust.  It may seem like a small thing, but it's not. It's enormous. Keeping someone else's confidence is one of the most important things you will ever do, and one that can give you the most reward. It may seem unimportant or meaningless to tell someone else's secrets, but it's not worth the pain that it can cause. There's a lot to be said for openness and honesty, but sometimes it's better to keep silent and to keep a secret. Fall backward into the arms of trust, and know that you will be caught, and know that you can provide those arms for someone else as well.  I think maybe thats why I find Julia so replusive and have no compassion for her.. Natalee's family needed someone that they could trust and she used that need for her own purpose..I wonder if her Mother taught her that, not something to be proud of..


terry what a wonderful post....I am printing it oit and sending it to someone who violated my trust a few years ago...thank you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2006, 06:58:48 PM
You know the United States is the greatest country on the planet.  And I think we probably have MORE than our fair share of kooks.  Alot of these American kooks are laboring under their own self righteous version of justice.

I wonder, does Joran and the Kalpoe brothers realize they are virtual targets for any cowboy that wants to "make it right"?

Do they understand that they will be looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives, unless they tell the truth and accept responsibility for whatever part they played?

This case, and their part in it, have become too well known.  JMHO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 06:59:26 PM
I think a lot of players on that island are mad because their playground is being attacked.. Its like we took the meat(tourist) away from a bunch of lions(PIMPS) and they are upset.. I do believe they will attack each other, its just the nature of the beast and thats what they are..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: "Houdini"
You know the United States is the greatest country on the planet.  And I think we probably have MORE than our fair share of kooks.  Alot of these American kooks are laboring under their own self righteous version of justice.

I wonder, does Joran and the Kalpoe brothers realize they are virtual targets for any cowboy that wants to "make it right"?

Do they understand that they will be looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives, unless they tell the truth and accept responsibility for whatever part they played?

This case, and their part in it, have become too well known.  JMHO


Yeah, I've often thought that way myself, but unfortunately OJ is still walking around, so maybe there aren't as many Kooks around as I once thought.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 07:01:07 PM
I see that my info kind of went into a morph mode on another message board.  I was not quoting myself.  My contact is not in Aruba at this particular time, but he is getting regular updates from the island.

The words in italics are not mine.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 28, 2006, 07:01:25 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Anna-

I'd most respectfully say I am interested in the truth and only the truth. I am not sure we're there quite yet.

Take care all !


Aloha all and amen None!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 07:03:16 PM
hi Kuoka-

Tough week, just clouds everywhere, glad to see a ray of sunshine  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 07:03:31 PM
Houdini,

I agree and I think if I was a PIMP, I would know that I am very expendable..  As we have seen that everyone on that island is related in someway or another.  I believe everyone is guilty of something and therefore they are all tangled up in their own lies..  I just hope they start attacking each other as we saw Joran doing with the Kalpoe's.. I wonder why he stopped??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 07:03:32 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I see that my info kind of went into a morph mode on another message board.  I was not quoting myself.  My contact is not in Aruba at this particular time, but he is getting regular updates from the island.

The words in italics are not mine.


I know Easy.  I just clarified it for them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I see that my info kind of went into a morph mode on another message board.  I was not quoting myself.  My contact is not in Aruba at this particular time, but he is getting regular updates from the island.

The words in italics are not mine.


Just watched Abrams report and JR seemed to still think the 'witness' was still being considered viable?

Has JR missed another one?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 07:05:06 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I see that my info kind of went into a morph mode on another message board.  I was not quoting myself.  My contact is not in Aruba at this particular time, but he is getting regular updates from the island.

The words in italics are not mine.


Just watched Abrams report and JR seemed to still think the 'witness' was still being considered viable?

Has JR missed another one?


Julia Renfro has to know exactly what she is doing, she also has to know why the witness is still being detained.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 07:05:09 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "da_wench"
Okay monkeys, I don't know what y'all think about the "body bag" that is being discussed on the front page, but this is by far, the clearest pic I've seen.  It gives me the creeps BIG TIME becuase this looks like Natalee in the bag.  What do you think?
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/da_wench_2006/itsher.jpg

first time I have seen it... gave me the chills.
:shock:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: A's Fever on June 28, 2006, 07:05:33 PM
Okay, i am confused, as usual.  Is the darkside the same as the Refugees?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 07:06:41 PM
I Have seen the prospect of quick easy money  do a lot od strange things to people that where supposedly a lot wiser and smarter then the suspect in custody is being described as .
   Here in Ohio a while ago was a woman a piller of socity so to say  that lied about a murder case so as to collect a $50,000 reward  but they caught on when she kept calling and threatening to sue if they didn't get her the money in a set amount of time .

Jerry from Ohio


Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Why can't we get a break?


Well, this ain't it. :(

The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 28, 2006, 07:06:46 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


I heard the JR that the witness is being held because he is an illegal alien.

Here we go again...
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/kuoka/cops.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 28, 2006, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: "A's Fever"
Okay, i am confused, as usual.  Is the darkside the same as the Refugees?


Afirmative.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:08:06 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I see that my info kind of went into a morph mode on another message board.  I was not quoting myself.  My contact is not in Aruba at this particular time, but he is getting regular updates from the island.

The words in italics are not mine.


Just watched Abrams report and JR seemed to still think the 'witness' was still being considered viable?

Has JR missed another one?


Julia Renfro has to know exactly what she is doing, she also has to know why the witness is still being detained.


JR was hitting the 'illegal alien' bit pretty hard, but really didn't have anything to dispute the supposed story.

Did appear that Beth is pretty much pinning the last hopes on the NYC Judges decision.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 28, 2006, 07:08:53 PM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


I heard the JR that the witness is being held because he is an illegal alien.


OOPS that was supposed to read... "I heard *from* JR that..."  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 07:10:21 PM
Carnut,

OJ lives in Kendal (Miami) Florida and I'm sure that his life is not what it used to be.. I'm sure that he hears the whispers when he walks by and they aren't those of him being the greatest running backs of all time but more likely known for being charged with the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman in 1994.  I'm upset that he is allowed to walk around but I'm sure his freedom has its cost..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: A's Fever on June 28, 2006, 07:10:38 PM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "A's Fever"
Okay, i am confused, as usual.  Is the darkside the same as the Refugees?


Afirmative.


Thanks!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:11:23 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
Carnut,

OJ lives in Kendal (Miami) Florida and I'm sure that his life is not what it used to be.. I'm sure that he hears the whispers when he walks by and they aren't those of him being the greatest running backs of all time but more likely known for being charged with the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman in 1994.  I'm upset that he is allowed to walk around but I'm sure his freedom has its cost..


Yeah, but still hasn't cost enough.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 07:11:57 PM
Hey Monkeys :)

So the latest witness LIED?  and they are going to charge him.?  It figures.

The plastic bag pics (enhancements)
... JMO but a seperate thread for them may be appropiate and I'll see if I can find a good INK BLOT  pic to post there too.

Anything I should go back and read ???

Thanks


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:12:51 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "terryd270"
Carnut,

OJ lives in Kendal (Miami) Florida and I'm sure that his life is not what it used to be.. I'm sure that he hears the whispers when he walks by and they aren't those of him being the greatest running backs of all time but more likely known for being charged with the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman in 1994.  I'm upset that he is allowed to walk around but I'm sure his freedom has its cost..


Yeah, but still hasn't cost enough.


Heh, Heh, if I had been a betting man, I'd have bet OJ wouldn't still be walking around today, sure woulda lost that one.

Kinda why I'm very much disappointed in my fellow Kooks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
hi Kuoka-

Tough week, just clouds everywhere, glad to see a ray of sunshine  :D


None, many of us care for you, pray for you, wish the best for you.  You are dearly cared for.  I hope that we can all be a ray of sunshine for you.  I wish there was more I could do.  I am very sorry if we do not agree on everything but that does not make me care one bit less for you or for Natalee.  It just means even friends and partners never agreen 100%.  I know you have dedicated a lot, a lot, a lot but just know that you are cared for.  I would hate for you to ever think because we disagree on the color of something or if we have four fingers and one thumb or five fingers, that I do not care for you and that you would not see me as someone who cares for Natalee, Beth, Dave and all those who love and care and want the truth.

I consider you a very honest person and would never want to see you in any other way, nor do I have it in me to be mean or uncaring for anyone  here, regardless that I think something happened at the HI, but others do not.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 28, 2006, 07:15:38 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
I instant messaged on yahoo once with Deepak? Is that being undercover? I had no idea...


Rut roh. So did I.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 07:15:44 PM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


I heard the JR that the witness is being held because he is an illegal alien.


OOPS that was supposed to read... "I heard *from* JR that..."  :lol:  :lol:


I'm sure we will hear many things until there is an official announcement.  This guy was always considered to be very shaky.  Art Wood did not believe a word coming out of his mouth.  JQK was very cautious.  And Jossy Mansur was hopeful it might be worthwhile, because some people in ALE and the prosecutor’s office believed some of the story.

He is an illegal and did want the reward money.  I guess that fell apart and backfired on the guy.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2006, 07:16:01 PM
Carnut wrote:
Quote
Yeah, I've often thought that way myself, but unfortunately OJ is still walking around, so maybe there aren't as many Kooks around as I once thought.


Yeah, but it only takes ONE!

OJ is too "high profile" and in this country.  You know, with the way they look after tourists, a kook could be on and off before they figured out that a crime had been committed.  Ha, it's been over a year since NH disappeared and they still haven't figured out if a crime was committed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 07:17:00 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I just think all these witnesses just muddy the water and just takes the attention away from those that know what happen that night.. When the rearrest the original PIMPS then I will get excited..

I agree Terry.

I think what infuriates me the most is that ArubaTHINKS we are all "stupid Americans" and that they have "pulled-one-over" on us. It makes me more determined to crush them.

That's it for me also.  How this one little POS island thinks we are that dumb.



You got it!  And they do not get enough feed back on the island with so little actual coverage that they do not realize no one believes them.  No wonder they have the nerve to run by another fake witness--they probably think we believed it last time so we will again.

I wish there was a way to let more people there know that no one is buying all of this.   :evil:

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 28, 2006, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
hi Kuoka-

Tough week, just clouds everywhere, glad to see a ray of sunshine  :D


Hang in there sweetie. I know what you're going through. You know how to get reach me if you need anything.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 07:18:05 PM
Tyler-

I have never had an issue with you, not ever. I just have been privvy to some information I have never shared, for the good of the quest for Natalee.

Agreeing to disagree isn't a problem for me, unless I am asked not to share my opinion or patronized because I dare to?

It is all about Natalee, isn't it? I can assure everyone it certainly isn't about me or my motivations, ever.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:18:18 PM
Quote from: "Houdini"
Carnut wrote:
Quote
Yeah, I've often thought that way myself, but unfortunately OJ is still walking around, so maybe there aren't as many Kooks around as I once thought.


Yeah, but it only takes ONE!

OJ is too "high profile" and in this country.  You know, with the way they look after tourists, a kook could be on and off before they figured out that a crime had been committed.  Ha, it's been over a year since NH disappeared and they still haven't figured out if a crime was committed.


Well, I do tend to want to think that way, what with all the supposed 'illegals' frequenting the island and the bodies turning up in weird places, it does appear a well intentioned kook might get something done in 'wonder world'.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 07:20:04 PM
Easy-

Not to make light of it inappropriately, but wouldn't winning the lottery have greater odds than any ordinary citizen in Colombia or the US winning that reward?

Where is Widget, we need an oddsmaker  :lol:

Thanks Kuoka, off now to figure out dinner or find an appetite  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 07:20:07 PM
Carnut,

I think you might win eventually, he still seems to run into trouble a lot..  I believe he will eventually have done to him what he did to his wife and his wife's friend.  I'm sure when he hears a backfire on the streets, he checks to see if someone shot him...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/12/03/simpson.htm


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 28, 2006, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Tyler-

I have never had an issue with you, not ever. I just have been privvy to some information I have never shared, for the good of the quest for Natalee.

Agreeing to disagree isn't a problem for me, unless I am asked not to share my opinion or patronized because I dare to?

It is all about Natalee, isn't it? I can assure everyone it certainly isn't about me or my motivations, ever.


We know that, None.  We know you have worked and cared very much for Natalee for a long time.  I don't know anyone who has worked harder or spent more time.  I think it is time I just put my toys away and go play with my neglected (NOT) kitties.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
Carnut,

I think you might win eventually, he still seems to run into trouble a lot..  I believe he will eventually have done to him what he did to his wife and his wife's friend.  I'm sure when he hears a backfire on the streets, he checks to see if someone shot him...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/12/03/simpson.htm


Heck, I do the same check myself.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 28, 2006, 07:21:39 PM
I'm out of here too. I hope everyone has a fantastic night!

Aloha!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 07:23:01 PM
Carnut,

I do too but I usually think they are after the other guy.. Well I need to do something and I hope everyone find some peace.. later..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2006, 07:23:11 PM
Carnut wrote:
Quote
Heh, Heh, if I had been a betting man, I'd have bet OJ wouldn't still be walking around today, sure woulda lost that one.

Kinda why I'm very much disappointed in my fellow Kooks.


Don't be, he's not worth the price of a bullet.

Still, I bet he looks over his shoulder all the time.  

I think Joran and the Kalpoe's have generated a "special" kind of animosity with their smirky arrogance.

I also think that whoever else "higher up" that is involved might come up with a "kook" to insure their silence.   JMHO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 07:23:33 PM
nonesuche

Just realized you were here (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/ff8df856.gif)

Been meaning to pass this on to you for a bit
Hope ya understand... I'm not much for words
OldF



(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/26acb509.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 07:25:54 PM
OF-

Thank you, that was really sweet and I truly needed a hug.

Now in large letters for tyler so she won't miss it :

I am not upset with you !!! Come back and post please.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 07:31:33 PM
NoneS
we had not talked in ages... just wanted you to know I think of this little gal / guy a lot people here .

Please pass her/him along

OldF


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 07:32:16 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Why can't we get a break?


Well, this ain't it. :(

The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!


Easy - just read this.  Un real.

Maybe I should be spending my time doing something that is easier to accomplish like fixing the US Healthcare system!   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Shizaru on June 28, 2006, 07:34:09 PM
Remember Joe T claiming on Greta that he had Beth's phone records and that the records contradicted Beth's asertion that she never spoke to Natalee in Aruba?  

Glenda said:
 
Quote
Yes, incoming and outgoing calls on everyones phone except for everyone from MB. KJ requested Beth's phone records but was informed that would take a court order ~ and that just wasn't going to happen.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
OF-

Thank you, that was really sweet and I truly needed a hug.

Now in large letters for tyler so she won't miss it :

I am not upset with you !!! Come back and post please.


Yeah, None, looks like OF really sized you up.

I think of None as the queen of moving images.

Didn't really get that Tyler was upset and leaving, seemed is was late afternoon and time for a break?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tony on June 28, 2006, 07:35:34 PM
I saw the videos last year. I heard Joran siad "wanna bet " when finding her was mentioned. I see the face and I see the shoe at the bottom. I think it is like finding animals in clouds. I think Joran, his dad and the others would not be a band of fools leaving the body in a cistern near the hotels.
This is a cover up of the largest porportions.
No body no crime.

Queen B needs to know about a lovely girl named Nat and her Aruban criminals, we need to tell her daily until she gets us the help we need.

17% of all US tourists to Aruba are from NY. Start here for boycotting.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 07:36:52 PM
.
Oh, Easy!  This is just devastating.  This would mean the cable, frozen condom and article of Natalee's her mother would recognize likely do not even exist.

This is just too disappointing!  See!  Beth is a better person than I am for she does not let her hopes get up based on their lies, misinformation and misdirections.  I still do!   :?

I was really believing there existed a condom with Joran's DNA right on it and bam--we had him!  Need to take my cue from Beth and not believe anything until it is confirmed and documented but dang--would be nice if that happened in this lifetime!

Now I am all bummed out. . . . . . .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 07:37:47 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"

<<snip>>
Yeah, None, looks like OF really sized you up.
I think of None as the queen of moving images.

Didn't really get that Tyler was upset and leaving, seemed is was late afternoon and time for a break?


Carnut  
I hate to ask... but could you expand on this please (undelined). Did I miss something?  Just wondering.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tony on June 28, 2006, 07:40:20 PM
There WAS a condom found on the beach near the tree where Nat was with Joran.  Hyde nor hair now.
The gardener and Carlos the witness supposedly worked for Renfro owned properties and might have been stifled by her.
The witness is not reputable enough anyway even if what he said was true.

Dont worry we wil keep looking!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 07:40:21 PM
.
Old Fart,
I think Carnut is saying None likes animations so you gave her a nice teddy bear one?

JMO.


.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "Carnut"

<<snip>>
Yeah, None, looks like OF really sized you up.
I think of None as the queen of moving images.

Didn't really get that Tyler was upset and leaving, seemed is was late afternoon and time for a break?


Carnut  
I hate to ask... but could you expand on this please (undelined). Did I miss something?  Just wondering.


Oh, nothing negative intended, in my head just thought that was about the best online 'warm fuzzy' you give to None, because she's always been big on moving images.

Quite appropriate, and I'm sure she was quite moved to see it.

Sorry I have such a dry way with words.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sam on June 28, 2006, 07:44:59 PM
Hi Monkeys,

Now this is just a thought, Not fact or anything. What if Carlos really does have info. They have had him in jail for how long? Supposedly for his own protection. Nothing has been happening with him otherwise. No suspects have been arrested.

 What if they are in effect saying , We will teach you to give information. You can just sit you ass in jail forever or until you say that you lied. What would you do?

We have all heard the stories of what has happened with our American whistle blowers. JMHO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 07:46:16 PM
OF-

I'm always in such a rush lately, I am sorry I didn't thank you more. I love the animations, Anna and Carnut are so right.

I admire your deep and wide heart OF, you have been so constant in your support for this family.

Thank you !!!

Well since we have no appetite tonight seems I'm fixing root beer floats?  :shock: Peaches will spank us !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Hi Monkeys,

Now this is just a thought, Not fact or anything. What if Carlos really does have info. They have had him in jail for how long? Supposedly for his own protection. Nothing has been happening with him otherwise. No suspects have been arrested.

 What if they are in effect saying , We will teach you to give information. You can just sit you ass in jail forever or until you say that you lied. What would you do?

We have all heard the stories of what has happened with our American whistle blowers. JMHO


Wouldn't put it past them, their method of jailing 'witnesses' is rather novel.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 07:48:48 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"

Oh, nothing negative intended, in my head just thought that was about the best online 'warm fuzzy' you give to None, because she's always been big on moving images.

Quite appropriate, and I'm sure she was quite moved to see it.

Sorry I have such a dry way with words.


Carnut
#1 Thank you for the explanation
#2 Sorry if I came accross as being angry / mad
It has been one of those days where my reserve  8)  manner     is now like this (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/437fd399.gif) ~~~  :shock:

Again no negative intended
 :oops:
OldF


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tony on June 28, 2006, 07:50:57 PM
If Carlos did see Joran carry Nat to the sea with a cable he would have used it to mark the location so Kboy the soccer star could come with dads boat to finish the job. (Theory)

I think it is a smokescreen again, it happened in Jorans apartment and Daddy PV is right in the middle of it all.
They know she passed according to Van Der Stratten. He knows>


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 07:52:37 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
OF-

I'm always in such a rush lately, I am sorry I didn't thank you more. I love the animations, Anna and Carnut are so right.

I admire your deep and wide heart OF, you have been so constant in your support for this family.

Thank you !!!

Well since we have no appetite tonight seems I'm fixing root beer floats?  :shock: Peaches will spank us !!


I hope the ice cream has cookie dough in it.. Some semi-solid starchy stuff anyway.  JMO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 07:53:29 PM
Just in case anyone has noticed me posting a bit more than usual today, it's because my normal leisure time activities were disrupted today, so instead of getting back to my normal leisure time activities, I decided to spend the afternoon here posting and readingn.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 28, 2006, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Quote from: "Peaches"
I am exactly who I say I am.  Always have been.  Always will be.


Me too Peaches.....and way behind as always..... :D


hahahaha...welcome to my world :D


Yep....here I am now...7 pages back and peddling fast...!   :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 07:56:37 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Just in case anyone has noticed me posting a bit more than usual today, it's because my normal leisure time activities were disrupted today, so instead of getting back to my normal leisure time activities, I decided to spend the afternoon here posting and readingn.


Did the air compress in the garage break down?  NO air powered tools to use on all your cars?
Just wondering ... not what you do in leisure time but think working/tinkering on autos might be part of it .
JMO of course


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sam on June 28, 2006, 07:59:17 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"


Well since we have no appetite tonight seems I'm fixing root beer floats?  :shock: Peaches will spank us !!


None, please just let him have what he can and will eat. He will be so greatful. During my radiation and chemo The only things I could eat and keep down were cheese of any kind, Fruit and any kind of sweet junk. This continued for a few months after my treatments were finished as well.
Oh I did have an ensure everyday. Keep the faith.

Sam


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 08:00:01 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I think a lot of players on that island are mad because their playground is being attacked.. Its like we took the meat(tourist) away from a bunch of lions(PIMPS) and they are upset.. I do believe they will attack each other, its just the nature of the beast and thats what they are..


terry...I do hope you are right......about them eventually turning on themselves....but when....how long must Natalee's family suffer under the beasts!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 08:00:33 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Just in case anyone has noticed me posting a bit more than usual today, it's because my normal leisure time activities were disrupted today, so instead of getting back to my normal leisure time activities, I decided to spend the afternoon here posting and readingn.


Did the air compress in the garage break down?  NO air powered tools to use on all your cars?
Just wondering ... not what you do in leisure time but think working/tinkering on autos might be part of it .
JMO of course


Heh, Heh, no, unfortunately it appears I've kinda 'out grown' working on the cars much.

Heck my 40 is sitting in the garage with a flat tire that needs fixed.

Being retired means 'working' on my computer in my leisure time.

Just had some other activities today that disrupted my schedule of 'work'.

Takes me quite a while to get my head back and get into my normal groove.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2006, 08:01:30 PM
Carnut wrote:
Quote
Just in case anyone has noticed me posting a bit more than usual today, it's because my normal leisure time activities were disrupted today, so instead of getting back to my normal leisure time activities, I decided to spend the afternoon here posting and readingn.


Okay, what are your "normal leisure time activities.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 08:01:33 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I see that my info kind of went into a morph mode on another message board.  I was not quoting myself.  My contact is not in Aruba at this particular time, but he is getting regular updates from the island.

The words in italics are not mine.


Just watched Abrams report and JR seemed to still think the 'witness' was still being considered viable?

Has JR missed another one?


alcohol and drugs fry the brain....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: "Houdini"
Carnut wrote:
Quote
Just in case anyone has noticed me posting a bit more than usual today, it's because my normal leisure time activities were disrupted today, so instead of getting back to my normal leisure time activities, I decided to spend the afternoon here posting and readingn.


Okay, what are your "normal leisure time activities.


'Working' on my website of course.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 08:04:37 PM
About time for me to leave... No bid deal  but I was just wondering

If Aruba charges this last witness for lying and takes them to court and ends up leveling jail time / money costs etc.

What can we do to make them compare the samething to J2K??

If they had NOT maintained the lie they (ALE) may have been able to get tracking dogs to (Where ever it was) the last spot a Natalee was at.
I wonder what the search costs from May 1 until the detention  date were?

JMO and Just wondering


SeeeyaaaByeeeeeeee


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 08:05:43 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
[
alcohol and drugs fry the brain....


Haven't done much for that face, either!

Oh, please, no flames for saying something about somebody's appearance, I just couldn't help myself.  She is such a liar and knows full well that this witness has recanted.  After all, she has seen the entire dossier and we have not as she once boasted to us all.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 28, 2006, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Hi Monkeys,

Now this is just a thought, Not fact or anything. What if Carlos really does have info. They have had him in jail for how long? Supposedly for his own protection. Nothing has been happening with him otherwise. No suspects have been arrested.

 What if they are in effect saying , We will teach you to give information. You can just sit you ass in jail forever or until you say that you lied. What would you do?

We have all heard the stories of what has happened with our American whistle blowers. JMHO


Sam
I thought the same thing.  This is a guy that came to work, to send money to his family (as most illegals do).  He finds himself in jail for two months with no income....figures even if he's convicted, he at least goes home (deported) and can support his family.
OR
He is a lying flake.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
.
Checking out until right before bedtime.  Lots to think about and have few things I must do this evening.

 :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 08:09:07 PM
I wonder if the Dutch would actually do anything if Chavez decided to annex 'happy island'.

I can remember well following the British Falklands affair, just wonder if anything like that would happen with the Dutch.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2006, 08:11:19 PM
Carnut wrote:
Quote
I wonder if the Dutch would actually do anything if Chavez decided to annex 'happy island'.

I can remember well following the British Falklands affair, just wonder if anything like that would happen with the Dutch.


They'd probably appeal to the United Nations to step in and get their island back.  And then expect the United States to save them again, like we did in WWII. :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sam on June 28, 2006, 08:11:53 PM
Anna,
No flames here. I know I made a comment once about hating to see peoples appearance mentioned. But I also know the person who has a pretty or handsome face can look ugly as sin to me if they act ugly. JR acts ugly. JMHO

Sam


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 28, 2006, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
I wonder if the Dutch would actually do anything if Chavez decided to annex 'happy island'.

I can remember well following the British Falklands affair, just wonder if anything like that would happen with the Dutch.


I just envisioned the Postner longshoremen ratcheting up the coast.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 08:13:38 PM
No offense to ANYONE here -- just my humble opinion:

I no longer buy anyone's sources on who is lying and who is not. That is not to mean any of these sources are not very well intentioned or untrustworthy or seriously trying to help us. I just think there is an unbelievable amount of DISINFORMATION being disseminated. I don't trust ANYONE in Aruba anymore.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 28, 2006, 08:16:23 PM
Frijole

Since you knew about the mooring cable, I'm curious:
I read (I think on FP) that it was possible to see people/things on the water at night, pretty clearly because of the reflection of the moon on the water.  It would be difficult to see objects (such as a car) on land because of the darkness.  Is this true?? TIA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
No offense to ANYONE here -- just my humble opinion:

I no longer buy anyone's sources on who is lying and who is not. That is not to mean any of these sources are not very well intentioned or untrustworthy or seriously trying to help us. I just think there is an unbelievable amount of DISINFORMATION being disseminated. I don't trust ANYONE in Aruba anymore.


Yeah, kinda like even the one's who think they are know something down there are probably getting the info from a less than dependable source.

Think it became obvious early on that all 'sources' down there are less than reliable with the truth as we know it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 08:23:47 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
[
alcohol and drugs fry the brain....


Haven't done much for that face, either!

Oh, please, no flames for saying something about somebody's appearance, I just couldn't help myself.  She is such a liar and knows full well that this witness has recanted.  After all, she has seen the entire dossier and we have not as she once boasted to us all.

.


No flames from me Anna, especially about old leatherface herself!!! :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunnyinTX on June 28, 2006, 08:24:37 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
.
Checking out until right before bedtime.  Lots to think about and have few things I must do this evening.

 :wink:


Good Night Anna....rest well


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 08:25:14 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Frijole

Since you knew about the mooring cable, I'm curious:
I read (I think on FP) that it was possible to see people/things on the water at night, pretty clearly because of the reflection of the moon on the water.  It would be difficult to see objects (such as a car) on land because of the darkness.  Is this true?? TIA


Wow Buckeye - that's a tough question.

I might agree in general re objects on land... but there are so many unknowns!  Do we have any idea if there was ANY light other than the moon? I'm not sure we even know exactly where Carlos was "napping". ha  

Important ? for you - You guys gonna be tough this year in football?  





 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "Sam"
Hi Monkeys,

Now this is just a thought, Not fact or anything. What if Carlos really does have info. They have had him in jail for how long? Supposedly for his own protection. Nothing has been happening with him otherwise. No suspects have been arrested.

 What if they are in effect saying , We will teach you to give information. You can just sit you ass in jail forever or until you say that you lied. What would you do?

We have all heard the stories of what has happened with our American whistle blowers. JMHO


Sam
I thought the same thing.  This is a guy that came to work, to send money to his family (as most illegals do).  He finds himself in jail for two months with no income....figures even if he's convicted, he at least goes home (deported) and can support his family.
OR
He is a lying flake.


Actually, unless they can 'break him' from his story, he is saying he say JVDS dispose of a body that night.

No evidence should really be needed, KJ knows JVDS was last with Nat and now has an eye witness who says he saw JVDS kill and dispose of a body.

What more does KJ need?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 08:28:29 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"


The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!



I wonder if AHATA had to close the blogs and stop paying people to post negatively in order to come up with enough money to pay this witness to recant his story.   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 08:29:43 PM
Quote
What more does KJ need?

...probably awaiting her inquiry to the US Justice Department to see if Beth is really Hitler's sister's daughter before she can proceed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2006, 08:30:56 PM
Carnut wrote:
Quote
No evidence should really be needed, KJ knows JVDS was last with Nat and now has an eye witness who says he saw JVDS kill and dispose of a body.


That alone should have been enough to bring in Joran for questioning.  It's not his word against Carlos'.

It's to interrogate Joran and try to prove if his statement was a lie.

But hey, that's what would happen here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 08:32:24 PM
ALE holds onto what most are certain the main culprits in this case and can't get them to talk, or make what they do say stick.

They hold on to this latest supspect and if in fact he has been lying all the while, they bought his story.

Are they that incompetent? :?

Stuck on stupid? :roll:

Or being paid off? :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 08:33:49 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
ALE holds onto what most are certain the main culprits in this case and can't get them to talk, or make what they do say stick.

They hold on to this latest supspect and if in fact he has been lying all the while, they bought his story.

Are they that incompetent? :?

Stuck on stupid? :roll:

Or being paid off? :evil:


D)  All of the above!   :lol:

Hi Jackie - read the latest in your saga, speaking of stuck on stupid.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 28, 2006, 08:34:37 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"



Important ? for you - You guys gonna be tough this year in football?  





 :lol:


I haven't lived in Ohio for over twenty years.  And..I was never a big football fan...although I do sort of watch Notre Dame and hear all about the Colts....I'm a hoosier now..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 28, 2006, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
No offense to ANYONE here -- just my humble opinion:

I no longer buy anyone's sources on who is lying and who is not. That is not to mean any of these sources are not very well intentioned or untrustworthy or seriously trying to help us. I just think there is an unbelievable amount of DISINFORMATION being disseminated. I don't trust ANYONE in Aruba anymore.


Wreck
Saw this post as I headed out the door  & JUST had to respond

I DO NOT CARE WHO STATES A 'FACT' IN THIS CASE  ANYMORE
because I take them all the same ...WITH THIS
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/6e101d32.jpg)

And 50lbs is a LOT more than a grain

JMO of course :wink:

G'nite all

SYB


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 28, 2006, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Anna,
No flames here. I know I made a comment once about hating to see peoples appearance mentioned. But I also know the person who has a pretty or handsome face can look ugly as sin to me if they act ugly. JR acts ugly. JMHO

Sam


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 08:35:14 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
ALE holds onto what most are certain the main culprits in this case and can't get them to talk, or make what they do say stick.

They hold on to this latest supspect and if in fact he has been lying all the while, they bought his story.

Are they that incompetent? :?

Stuck on stupid? :roll:

Or being paid off? :evil:


Ah, you left off 'all of the above'.

I'm real good at mulitple choice.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2006, 08:35:22 PM
Jacqueline wrote:
Quote
ALE holds onto what most are certain the main culprits in this case and can't get them to talk, or make what they do say stick.

They hold on to this latest supspect and if in fact he has been lying all the while, they bought his story.

Are they that incompetent?  

Stuck on stupid?  

Or being paid off?


At this point, I don't care what their problem is.  I just want to figure out some way to get past them.   :evil:  :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 28, 2006, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Easywriter"


The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!



I wonder if AHATA had to close the blogs and stop paying people to post negatively in order to come up with enough money to pay this witness to recant his story.   :shock:


I think the contract with the marketing company was for one year...so they'll all be shutting down..JMO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 08:38:01 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
ALE holds onto what most are certain the main culprits in this case and can't get them to talk, or make what they do say stick.

They hold on to this latest supspect and if in fact he has been lying all the while, they bought his story.

Are they that incompetent? :?

Stuck on stupid? :roll:

Or being paid off? :evil:


D)  All of the above!   :lol:

Hi Jackie - read the latest in your saga, speaking of stuck on stupid.


Oh Fragiole, it is getting beyond ridiculous....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 28, 2006, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "Frijole"



Important ? for you - You guys gonna be tough this year in football?  





 :lol:


I haven't lived in Ohio for over twenty years.  And..I was never a big football fan...although I do sort of watch Notre Dame and hear all about the Colts....I'm a hoosier now..


Sorry about that -- that ASSume thing got me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Easywriter"


The news I have from Aruba is that the witness at the end admitted that he lied about the whole affair. He is now in jail and awaiting trial. I spoke to the prosectur and was informed that everyone in that department and in the police corps really believed the man. He only recently, a week ago, admitted that he had lied about the whole affair. What a disgraceful idiot!



I wonder if AHATA had to close the blogs and stop paying people to post negatively in order to come up with enough money to pay this witness to recant his story.   :shock:


I think the contract with the marketing company was for one year...so they'll all be shutting down..JMO


That is such an interesting phenomenon, don't know if anyone will be able to confirm one way or the other what's been going down, but it sure is suspicious and interesting.

And for that matter if they all have been controlled propaganda, why closing down now?

Is it really because of the money?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 08:46:33 PM
Quote from: "Houdini"
Jacqueline wrote:
Quote
ALE holds onto what most are certain the main culprits in this case and can't get them to talk, or make what they do say stick.

They hold on to this latest supspect and if in fact he has been lying all the while, they bought his story.

Are they that incompetent?  

Stuck on stupid?  

Or being paid off?


At this point, I don't care what their problem is.  I just want to figure out some way to get past them.   :evil:  :evil:


Ah, but a key to getting past them is to find out what their problem is and what makes them tick.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 28, 2006, 08:47:50 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"

 
And for that matter if they all have been controlled propaganda, why closing down now?

Is it really because of the money?


I don't know.  I just think, the purpose of the marketing budget originally, was to offset the boycott issue.  I think, even they can evaluate that tourism has been hit.  Maybe the budget will be deferred to other promotions....and maybe they know they will be closing the case in Aruba.
I don't know.  I just find it odd.  The other blogs are hateful enough that there is no one left to influence.  They are posting each other.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 28, 2006, 08:51:45 PM
Jacqueline wrote:
Quote
Ah, but a key to getting past them is to find out what their problem is and what makes them tick.


Well, we've had over a year to that and we still don't know exactly what the deal is.

Somebody ought to kidnap one of the 3 amigoes and urge his cooperation, thus bypassing their problem and what makes them tick.

By the way, that's the reason Joran will not be attending ANY legal event in the USA.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: "Houdini"
Jacqueline wrote:
Quote
Ah, but a key to getting past them is to find out what their problem is and what makes them tick.


Well, we've had over a year to that and we still don't know exactly what the deal is.

Somebody ought to kidnap one of the 3 amigoes and urge his cooperation, thus bypassing their problem and what makes them tick.

By the way, that's the reason Joran will not be attending ANY legal event in the USA.


I hear you.
But if you bypass their problem there is a good chance that some other unfortunate victim will have to go thru what natalee's family is going thru.  And I don't think anyone wants that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: JuJu on June 28, 2006, 08:57:21 PM
The pics Carpe posted on the FP are almost more than I can bear.  I really can't tell much about them.  What do you all think about them?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 28, 2006, 09:03:21 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "Frijole"



Important ? for you - You guys gonna be tough this year in football?  





 :lol:


I haven't lived in Ohio for over twenty years.  And..I was never a big football fan...although I do sort of watch Notre Dame and hear all about the Colts....I'm a hoosier now..


I am a Buckeye fan!!! Graduated college from Ohio State  GO BUCKS!!! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I think everyone here is a person that I would like to know personally and I can say that there are many on other sites that really makes me think about who they might be..  Have a great day Anna, AZLady, Jacqueline, KatzHome, Kimmy53, kuoka, Ono, SunnyinTX, tcumom, thirdstrike, Tylergal, wreck and everyone else I missed..  It looks like rain soon..


Thanks terryd!  I agree that there are so many wonderful genuine people on this site.  Feels kinda like family!

Hi Katz - good to see you.

Darleen - have a wonderful time!


Yeah ~ the people on this site are really, really special ~ love you!

 :oops: And hi Kimmy ~ sorry ~ I was out at a doctor's appointment ~ was running behind this morning ~ and even more behind now!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Atlmetroguy on June 28, 2006, 09:09:35 PM
<---Quick drive by...as long as we're talking colleges...The University of ALABAMA Class of 1987.....ROLL TIDE

<--gotta fold laundry...be back later


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: "JuJu"
The pics Carpe posted on the FP are almost more than I can bear.  I really can't tell much about them.  What do you all think about them?


Hi JuJu - see you made it back in the forum!  I don't know what to think of them to be honest.  Logic tells me it's highly unlikely for alot of reasons that a body would be in that bag.  But, I have been wrong in the past and could be wrong again.


Title: guilty
Post by: Elaine on June 28, 2006, 09:11:23 PM
Hi monkeys!! I was sick for awhile, didnt realize the forum had gone down again, glad it is back!! ....Shout out to ARUBA:...With all the propaganda, all the attempts to twist and turn this case into multiple directions, all the Bull s**t, one thing is certain, even 1 year later.... Natalee Holloway is still missing, was last seen with Joran Van Der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. Three liars. Three guys who felt the need to lie about dropping a young woman off that night....WHY? Because, they knew she wasnt coming back! WHY? Because they know what happened to her, they knew SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED! How? Because they are involved, thats how. Aruba, please do not underestimate our intelligence., or our persistence. All eyes are upon you, and your corruption!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I posted in a couple of days but wanted to say "hi".  I don't know how much I will be around anymore.  My boss that can't bring in any business laid me off yesterday morning.  I guess it is bad when you lay off your only office, human resources, payroll, accounts payable/receivable, marketing and general gofer person.  He thinks he can do it all.  Say a prayer for me.  Something good is going to happen to me, I just know it!!!  Maybe this is the motivation kick I needed.


I'm sure that it is ~ and I'm just as certain that something good is going to happen for you ~ I'm saying a prayer for you right now, Mom.  {{{hugs}}}


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 09:12:14 PM
I seriousley doubt that Joran will ever be in the US again because he now knows that he cannot be protected here and that someone can get to him .
  And for the fact that any of the three amigoes will talk it will take some factor that makes them feel that they are at great personal risk for their well being in an uncontroled situation .
  Basically theyd have to be afraid for their lives or of being mutalated for real and then they would speak .  
  My own personal opinion would be to get Lil Satish to feel the heat and he'd  blabber like a baby because he would feel that he has the most to lose by keeping silent .
  this may sound barbaric  but it is the truth as i see it .
  I agree with whoever said that the higher ups in Aruba  will eventually have this all taken care of  and think a min , What is the real reason that Joran is not back in Aruba  this summer  is it really just the world cup matches ??  Not !
  Jerry from Ohio



Quote from: "Houdini"
Jacqueline wrote:
Quote
Ah, but a key to getting past them is to find out what their problem is and what makes them tick.


Well, we've had over a year to that and we still don't know exactly what the deal is.

Somebody ought to kidnap one of the 3 amigoes and urge his cooperation, thus bypassing their problem and what makes them tick.

By the way, that's the reason Joran will not be attending ANY legal event in the USA.


Title: Re: guilty
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hi monkeys!! I was sick for awhile, didnt realize the forum had gone down again, glad it is back!! ....Shout out to ARUBA:...With all the propaganda, all the attempts to twist and turn this case into multiple directions, all the Bull s**t, one thing is certain, even 1 year later.... Natalee Holloway is still missing, was last seen with Joran Van Der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. Three liars. Three guys who felt the need to lie about dropping a young woman off that night....WHY? Because, they knew she wasnt coming back! WHY? Because they know what happened to her, they knew SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED! How? Because they are involved, thats how. Aruba, please do not underestimate our intelligence., or our persistence. All eyes are upon you, and your corruption!


Glad you're back with us, and hope you are feeling much better~!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: JuJu on June 28, 2006, 09:18:37 PM
Hi Monkeys!!!

Yes Dear Klaas, I AM BACK.. and very happy to be so.  Thanks for helping me to log in.  I have missed my Monkey friends, and I am happy to be back! :D  :wink:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Re: guilty
Post by: Elaine on June 28, 2006, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"

Glad you're back with us, and hope you are feeling much better~!
I do feel better, Thanks Jacq!! Hope everyone else is well too, I have missed the monkeys!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "Anna"
.
I am staying home for the weekend because the fireworks scare my dogs so will comfort them as best I can.   :D They are not much on that kind of celebration.  But I may bring my mom over for a visit, always an adventure.  And plan to fix ribs soaked in vodka on the smoker, slaw, baked beans, etc.  Will be nice.  

I am worried about my kids in the D.C. area.  Anyone from up that way and with any inside information on the Fairfax-Arlington, VA flood conditions?   :(

.


I wish I could be home with my cats ~ but I have to work that night...  Especially Bink...  He get scared when it rains...  or hears a truck go by...  never mind thunder and lightening ~ I feel so bad for him on the 4th of July ~ thank God there aren't many fireworks here...  Thankfully a lot of people just watch the displays that are put on by the different casinos...  last years was beautiful...


I hate it when my cats are scared because there is nothing I can really do to make them feel better until what ever is scaring them goes away. :(


Just talking to Bink makes him feel better ~ but there's no comforting him when its storming...   :cry: poor baby....  When I go to bed, he jumps up, comes over by me and settles down to suck on his arm, like he's nursing...

When I first got him, he used to do that all the time ~ now he only does it when I go to bed ~ it's like I'm his mother...

Customers tell me that he's really ummmm  emotionally disturbed....  poor thing...  A little girl "found" him when he was way too small to be taken from his mother.  She brought him home to her father's house that has a pit bull...  I used to work with the guy ~ and I told him I'd take the kitten...

He has beautiful blue eyes and has these beautiful "points" type markings...  long hair...  tan, brown, greyish and cream...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Elaine on June 28, 2006, 09:23:00 PM
Hi Klaas! Is there a special fund to help with the site, or do we just use the payapl button? TIA


Title: Re: guilty
Post by: San on June 28, 2006, 09:23:28 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hi monkeys!! I was sick for awhile, didnt realize the forum had gone down again, glad it is back!! ....Shout out to ARUBA:...With all the propaganda, all the attempts to twist and turn this case into multiple directions, all the Bull s**t, one thing is certain, even 1 year later.... Natalee Holloway is still missing, was last seen with Joran Van Der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. Three liars. Three guys who felt the need to lie about dropping a young woman off that night....WHY? Because, they knew she wasnt coming back! WHY? Because they know what happened to her, they knew SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED! How? Because they are involved, thats how. Aruba, please do not underestimate our intelligence., or our persistence. All eyes are upon you, and your corruption!

Hi Elaine glad you're back.  Hope you are all better.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:25:28 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
And I'm becoming a bigger and bigger fan of Strike's by the day....


I appreciate the endorsement Katz!  But, what exactly are you a fan of?  ;)


Your head and your heart are in the right place, Strike.


Title: Re: guilty
Post by: Elaine on June 28, 2006, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: "San"
Hi Elaine glad you're back.  Hope you are all better.
Hi San! Thanks, and I hope that you are feeling better too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:27:03 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Regarding the cable.... I am thinking maybe they are talking about a MOORING cable.  You know, the cable that is attached to the ocean floor and has a floating plastic device so you can spot it... used to anchor boats in harbors?

Sporter wouldn't have been carrying it.  

I missed the description last night so am just telling you what comes to my mind after reading the last 10 pgs today.


makes total sense!!


That is what I assumed it was...  any more info on it?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
The person with Steve Croes is sthe same person that runs the arubassilence website.


Didn't she just say she was shutting down her site, or am I confused.


Yeah, but due to an overwhelming response, she's keeping it up.  And, I have to admit, I was a supporter of doing so...


Before we go off on a tangent.....let's remember she chose to take a different route....she tried to inflitrate the enemy....rather than going after them....she is a die hard supporter of the family.....remember the old saying you get more with honey than vinegar :wink:


I have it on good authority that you are spot on Sunny!  Good job...;)


That's exactly what I think too!  I really mean it ~ I hope this doesn't go much further...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 09:32:58 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hi Klaas! Is there a special fund to help with the site, or do we just use the payapl button? TIA

Red said something about making an announcement.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:33:39 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ


{{{hugs}}}  No one called you ignorant, Hotshot...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Elaine on June 28, 2006, 09:34:14 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hi Klaas! Is there a special fund to help with the site, or do we just use the payapl button? TIA

Red said something about making an announcement.
ok, I will wait for that then, thanks! I would like to help!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hi Klaas! Is there a special fund to help with the site, or do we just use the payapl button? TIA

Red said something about making an announcement.
ok, I will wait for that then, thanks! I would like to help!

Yes, alot of us would!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 09:39:58 PM
I'm doing some work but was wondering if there is anything on Rita or Greta about the case?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: "SunnyinTX"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ


hey, Kath I am sorry you are being drug through the mud.....you don't deserve this....I know that your heart is with the family...hang in girl...this too will pass!!!


I'm right with Sunny on this one, Kath...  {{{hugs}}}


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I'm doing some work but was wondering if there is anything on Rita or Greta about the case?


Not that I know of Terry.  Greta didn't mention anything.  I may turn on Rita just in case.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Elaine on June 28, 2006, 09:45:47 PM
I am glad that Kath is keeping arubasilence on the web! Aruba  would love to have it down! Go Kath!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 09:48:06 PM
I guess its near a holiday and they(the corrupt island) seems to enjoy releasing suspect, rumors and etc. on the holidays..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:52:43 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hotshot, you're above these doubts; just put on a tiara and ignore them.  Natalee's family certainly knows where your heart is.  Sunny, you are so right; let's all get oriented.  Think about it:  someone was leading a lot of people at SM down a path (it wasn't Tyler, so I'm omitting the proverbial description of a "rose-covered path"); then that person got mad and left, Hotshot was kind of blamed for that departure; pure jealousy of her is what that came off sounding like.  Since then, the supporters of the other person have been making more and more cries for attention.  This latest implication against Hotshot just looks like more feeble attempts along those lines.  Anyone who has followed this case, and been familiar with Kath, knows her efforts on behalf of Natalee's family.  Good grief, early on I was certainly no fan of hers (I will insert here that the Masons, as a group, are oblivious to this crime), but I've learned, over time, that she is one person who has not only supported Natalee's family, but backed up her support with action.  Oh, and that's not to mention all the other people who would love to thwart this case ever being solved who would just love to discredit the efforts of people like Kath who have made a positive difference in this case.  So, everyone, get real; stop turning on each other.  I thought everyone here was on Natalee's side, afterall.


Darlene, you just brought tears to my eyes.  Thank-you so very much!!


Great post, Darleen ~ and I'm so glad that your got to read it, Hotshot!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sam on June 28, 2006, 09:54:18 PM
Back again Monkeys.

I leave for awhile and seems all kind of new stuff I have missed. Now I guess I will have to back read again to find out what is going on. LOL

Anna If you are still here, Our son and his family live in Arlington. I talked to daughter in law yesterday. She works downtown DC on New York Ave behind White House. She said because of the flooding part of Constitution was closed so she just took an earlier street than usual. So hopefully your family is ok as well. I will say my prayers for them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:54:44 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
After hearing specifics on this "new" witness, and the supposed "physical evidence", I'm even MORE skeptical then I was before!!  How can any analysis on evidence in a case of this magnitude take upwards of 6 weeks to process?  It baffles the mind...

This guy is full of chit, as is the evidence he claims to posses... :roll:


I still think that's the story that Aruba is going to try to sell ~ that Joran ONLY is responsible for Natalee's death ~

Yeah, maybe this whole witness thing is fabricated...  because they no longer can get any real evidence on him...

And they don't want to implicate anyone who helped get rid of her body.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 09:58:24 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I just heard that the witness just recently admitted he was lying and that is why he is sitting in jail.

Here we go again......


Oh geez....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 28, 2006, 09:58:56 PM
Klaas

Tom and Carnut (I think), taught me how to cheat to get to a page.  Multiply the page desired by 20 (I even think Tom called it some type of hack).  Well, I finally figured out "the new hack" might be closer to 15.  Now 15 is harder to multiply than 20.  Could you let Tom know I'm using a lot of scrap paper now.  :wink: (first smily ever).  Thanks


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 10:00:03 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Klaas

Tom and Carnut (I think), taught me how to cheat to get to a page.  Multiply the page desired by 20 (I even think Tom called it some type of hack).  Well, I finally figured out "the new hack" might be closer to 15.  Now 15 is harder to multiply than 20.  Could you let Tom know I'm using a lot of scrap paper now.  :wink: (first smily ever).  Thanks

Yeah, I need to have Tom fix that.  The pages are shorter now.  I'll let him know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sb on June 28, 2006, 10:04:50 PM
Hi everyone!

Klaasend, are we going to continue at 15 posts per page, or will it go back to 20? Also, are avatars loading? I can't redo mine for some reason.

Until I get caught up I am mostly going to be reading... between the crash and my trip I am still a couple of threads back but wanted to see where things stand as of right now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: scared-tom on June 28, 2006, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Klaas

Tom and Carnut (I think), taught me how to cheat to get to a page.  Multiply the page desired by 20 (I even think Tom called it some type of hack).  Well, I finally figured out "the new hack" might be closer to 15.  Now 15 is harder to multiply than 20.  Could you let Tom know I'm using a lot of scrap paper now.  :wink: (first smily ever).  Thanks


The posts per page is 20, so when you see the top of the page this URL

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=11&start=540

divide by 20 and add 1 for the page number ... so it is 540/20 = 27 +1 and we are on page 28...

T


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: scared-tom on June 28, 2006, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: "sb"
Hi everyone!

Klaasend, are we going to continue at 15 posts per page, or will it go back to 20? Also, are avatars loading? I can't redo mine for some reason.

Until I get caught up I am mostly going to be reading... between the crash and my trip I am still a couple of threads back but wanted to see where things stand as of right now.


We are back at 20... sorry for the mixup


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ


{{{hugs}}}  No one called you ignorant, Hotshot...
I know that now, when I read that, alot was going on.  Thanks for the hug, I need it right now.  Its been a very hard day as you probably already know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
I am glad that Kath is keeping arubasilence on the web! Aruba  would love to have it down! Go Kath!!!


Elaine, and Katz, thanks guys.  makes me happy...(hugs) back at ya


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sb on June 28, 2006, 10:25:12 PM
LOL, you must have JUST changed it back, I wondered why pages disappeared all of a sudden at the end of the thread I wwas reading!

OK, 20 Posts per page it is.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 10:26:37 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
I am glad that Kath is keeping arubasilence on the web! Aruba  would love to have it down! Go Kath!!!


I agree, Elaine.   That attack on Kath by Meri is so bogus.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Bearlyhere on June 28, 2006, 10:27:24 PM
Did someone take a pot shot at Hotshot?   :shock:  :shock:
Say it isn't so....no soup for you...

Hotshot, sending out a big {hug} to you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 28, 2006, 10:31:53 PM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Give some of us ignorant souls a little more background about that person in the picture with the DJ.


I am that ignorant soul with the DJ


{{{hugs}}}  No one called you ignorant, Hotshot...
I know that now, when I read that, alot was going on.  Thanks for the hug, I need it right now.  Its been a very hard day as you probably already know.

I just went to ArubaSilence and read background on the Matthews case.
I believe that 100 %. For Matthews to get ANY award from his
case is a miracle. Thanks, I never knew the details, just that he won the case in September of 2005.
I used to have the judgement handy. He should have got more ! !
Cover Ups and World Famous Liars.
That's their " system " and we don't understand it ! !


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 10:35:39 PM
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 10:43:49 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...

I forgot about that recurring theme -- but you are so right!! I say it will be the "release" of the "new witness." (Initials = S.O.S.  .....Same 'O'le S. )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...


LOL, you have a good point there Mrs. Red.  Something has to be up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 10:44:29 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...


I just noticed that MF posted that the paper Awemainta has an article about the witness that is being detained.  According to MF, now more of the papers will be willing to talk about it.  Will be interresting to see what they say.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 28, 2006, 10:47:10 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...

Friday is Arrest Day ! !  But, then Saturday was a holiday, so maybe Saturday.
.
But when do the Dutch play in the Cup ?
No arrests that day.
.
On July 1, you can arrest Canadians, On July 4, its Americans.
.
If Italy wins the World Cup, then all the Italians MUST be arrested.
If there are not enuf Italians, then anyone eating Pizza !
.
If the Germans win the Cup, anyone with a moustache will be arrested.
( Even if it's Mumma ) :oops:  :oops:
.
If you have a Dortmund beer in one hand and a sausage in the other, it's LIFE .
.
Wearing Green and Black, it's the chair for you ! !

Soory, I get carried away !  ! :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 10:51:39 PM
:roll:   :roll:  ..maybe this is when we will see those "fireworks" KJ promised.... :roll:   :roll:   :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 28, 2006, 10:54:53 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
:roll:   :roll:  ..maybe this is when we will see those "fireworks" KJ promised.... :roll:   :roll:   :(

In yer dreams !!!
Has anyone in that place come thru yet ? :?:  :?:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:01:38 PM
Well Kat  - it seems that they are on the American holiday schedule...LOL...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 28, 2006, 11:02:50 PM
Evening monkeys.  Hope everyone is doing well.  What's up tonight?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:04:01 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Evening monkeys.  Hope everyone is doing well.  What's up tonight?


hey Lala's... right now I am trying to figure out what they have planned for our holiday... isn't that what they usually do...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 28, 2006, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Well Kat  - it seems that they are on the American holiday schedule...LOL...

I liked the mumma with a moustache one myself !
But, Aruba is a crazy place ! ! Anything is possible. ! !
Except the logical.  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:05:58 PM
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Well Kat  - it seems that they are on the American holiday schedule...LOL...

I liked the mumma with a moustache one myself !
But, Aruba is a crazy place ! ! Anything is possible. ! !
Except the logical.  :lol:  :lol:


LOL.. so true, so true


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 28, 2006, 11:12:07 PM
Oh you are so right Mrs. Red.  Something will happen just because it's a holiday.   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 11:12:17 PM
Wasn't June 30th the date that KJ needed to present the judge with all her evidence against JK2?  The judge in Paulus suit for $$$ ?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Wasn't June 30th the date that KJ needed to present the judge with all her evidence against JK2?  The judge in Paulus suit for $$$ ?

Oh Klaasend... good point!! what do y'all wanna bet that they sneak it in now?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Wasn't June 30th the date that KJ needed to present the judge with all her evidence against JK2?  The judge in Paulus suit for $$$ ?

Oh Klaasend... good point!! what do y'all wanna bet that they sneak it in now?


Well if this witness lied, then he is a non issue in the case.  Unless of course they are going to try and pin it on him.  My guess is by Friday, the witness will be deported and KJ will turn in what she has which will not be enough to charge anyone with.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: justinsmama on June 28, 2006, 11:17:07 PM
Hi, monkeys. Could not sleep, so here I am.

Read about Hotshot supposedly being "outed". I don't keep up on everything, but I find it silly for anything to be made of Kathy in a photo "hugging the enemy". She has not "hidden" from the monkeys that she planned to go to Aruba, that she had been in touch with some of the suspects, etc.  Heck, if I knew that her agenda was to befriend the suspects to gain info, then why would anyone else who reads not know it also?

And as for the critics who are screaming that Kathy is not a detective, well, have we not all been seeking info in most any way we can? It would be fair to say that the majority of us are not "detectives".

Shall we get on with the business of trying to learn the truth as to what happened to Natalee, and who is responsible for her disappearance and the subsequent fudge-fest on The UnHappy Island?

A little hint:  VDS2 and K2 were behind the start of all this.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Yellow Ribbon on June 28, 2006, 11:18:50 PM
Hi Monkeys. Just checking in before bed time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: justinsmama on June 28, 2006, 11:19:52 PM
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
Hi Monkeys. Just checking in before bed time.


Hi, Ribbon!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 11:20:45 PM
Hey Monkeys.  I want to thank everyone here that has made me feel better regarding the changes in my life.  It warms me from head to toe knowing that monkeys with much more on their plate than mine can send positive energy my way!  Watch out world here I come with all new ideas!!!  Maybe I will be famous, ya never know.  Are there any monkeys here that can give me any advise on starting a home based business.  I could just call it Monkey Business!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 11:21:17 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Hi, monkeys. Could not sleep, so here I am.

Read about Hotshot supposedly being "outed". I don't keep up on everything, but I find it silly for anything to be made of Kathy in a photo "hugging the enemy". She has not "hidden" from the monkeys that she planned to go to Aruba, that she had been in touch with some of the suspects, etc.  Heck, if I knew that her agenda was to befriend the suspects to gain info, then why would anyone else who reads not know it also?

And as for the critics who are screaming that Kathy is not a detective, well, have we not all been seeking info in most any way we can? It would be fair to say that the majority of us are not "detectives".

Shall we get on with the business of trying to learn the truth as to what happened to Natalee, and who is responsible for her disappearance and the subsequent fudge-fest on The UnHappy Island?

A little hint:  VDS2 and K2 were behind the start of all this.


Hi Justins!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 11:22:21 PM
Leslie, if you are still here......thanks for the job link.  I will see what is available.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: justinsmama on June 28, 2006, 11:26:43 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I want to thank everyone here that has made me feel better regarding the changes in my life.  It warms me from head to toe knowing that monkeys with much more on their plate than mine can send positive energy my way!  Watch out world here I come with all new ideas!!!  Maybe I will be famous, ya never know.  Are there any monkeys here that can give me any advise on starting a home based business.  I could just call it Monkey Business!!!


Hi, crazy! Well, let that ijit try to run his business into the ground all by himself. You'll find something much better. And if you need money before then, there is always McDonald's. Seriously. Work part-time there. I'm thinking of doing that myself! I have to make the move to the town in which I work, yet I'm still bound by my current lease.  Can't make two rents (making the current one is tough enough as it is, what the cost of commuting), so I'll move and work part-time for good ole Micky D's.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:27:30 PM
Justins ... welll said... and it's true...


and Crazy... I am sure you will land on your feet and be better than before!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Hi, monkeys. Could not sleep, so here I am.

Read about Hotshot supposedly being "outed". I don't keep up on everything, but I find it silly for anything to be made of Kathy in a photo "hugging the enemy". She has not "hidden" from the monkeys that she planned to go to Aruba, that she had been in touch with some of the suspects, etc.  Heck, if I knew that her agenda was to befriend the suspects to gain info, then why would anyone else who reads not know it also?

And as for the critics who are screaming that Kathy is not a detective, well, have we not all been seeking info in most any way we can? It would be fair to say that the majority of us are not "detectives".

Shall we get on with the business of trying to learn the truth as to what happened to Natalee, and who is responsible for her disappearance and the subsequent fudge-fest on The UnHappy Island?

A little hint:  VDS2 and K2 were behind the start of all this.


Yes they did, and so nothing is hidden, I even posted my interview with him on my site.  I never tried to hide anything, and it was WRONG for them to do what they did.  Some "Strategic Team" ethics they have, they didn't even tell "ME" they told the whole group first.........Kath has a pic with Steve.  Sorry it's been a long day.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Yellow Ribbon on June 28, 2006, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
Hi Monkeys. Just checking in before bed time.


Hi, Ribbon!


Hi Justins.

We are coming up on the anniversary of the Arubans making Beth apologize for accusing the boys. Does anyone remember what date that was?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:29:35 PM
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
Hi Monkeys. Just checking in before bed time.


Hi, Ribbon!


Hi Justins.

We are coming up on the anniversary of the Arubans making Beth apologize for accusing the boys. Does anyone remember what date that was?


It was early July... the 3rd???  OMG.. that made my blood boil...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 28, 2006, 11:33:54 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"

I just noticed that MF posted that the paper Awemainta has an article about the witness that is being detained.  According to MF, now more of the papers will be willing to talk about it.  Will be interresting to see what they say.

That's the paper that broke the Guido/Carlos arrest story initially. Will be interesting to see what they printed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Rooscrew on June 28, 2006, 11:35:56 PM
Hotshot~

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Crazymom~

You are in my thoughts & prayers. Everything will work out just fine when all is said and done. There's a reason for everything that happens in our lives.


Roo~


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Yellow Ribbon on June 28, 2006, 11:36:10 PM
OT

I just got word that a tennis player is a little hurt at Wimbledon. Anybody want to go in with me and bet on his opponent?   :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: "Rooscrew"
Hotshot~

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Crazymom~

You are in my thoughts & prayers. Everything will work out just fine when all is said and done. There's a reason for everything that happens in our lives.


Roo~


I totally believe that...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 11:39:45 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Wasn't June 30th the date that KJ needed to present the judge with all her evidence against JK2?  The judge in Paulus suit for $$$ ?

Oh Klaasend... good point!! what do y'all wanna bet that they sneak it in now?


Well if this witness lied, then he is a non issue in the case.  Unless of course they are going to try and pin it on him.  My guess is by Friday, the witness will be deported and KJ will turn in what she has which will not be enough to charge anyone with.


KJ cannot be forced  to end her investigation by the judge in the PvdS civil suit in Aruba. She has 11 more months to pursue this.  I don't think she will end this case until at least after the NY judge decides on the civil suit here.  KJ I believe wants to solve and prosecute this case, b/c otherwise she will always be noted as the Dutch prosecutor who failed to bring charges is this world  reknown high profile case..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Rooscrew on June 28, 2006, 11:41:36 PM
Mrs. Red~

I also wanted to send you lots of {{{{HUGS}}}} your way as well. Red, Tom, Klaas and you do a wonderful & awesome job here at SM.
Ya'll ROCK!


Another thing that makes ya' wonder, didn't the K2's lawyer say back a few months ago that there would a trial in June. I think they're running out of time seeing as they only have 3 more days to do that as well.  :)

Roo~


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 11:43:07 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I want to thank everyone here that has made me feel better regarding the changes in my life.  It warms me from head to toe knowing that monkeys with much more on their plate than mine can send positive energy my way!  Watch out world here I come with all new ideas!!!  Maybe I will be famous, ya never know.  Are there any monkeys here that can give me any advise on starting a home based business.  I could just call it Monkey Business!!!


Hi, crazy! Well, let that ijit try to run his business into the ground all by himself. You'll find something much better. And if you need money before then, there is always McDonald's. Seriously. Work part-time there. I'm thinking of doing that myself! I have to make the move to the town in which I work, yet I'm still bound by my current lease.  Can't make two rents (making the current one is tough enough as it is, what the cost of commuting), so I'll move and work part-time for good ole Micky D's.  :D


That is sooo true!  I was a swing manager in my early 20's.  Now I could be the old lady they hired to roll the biscuits.  Wait a second.....aren't they frozen now?   :lol:  :lol:

Hubby wants me to work at home part time so I can spend more time with the kids.  I may just work on that!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 11:45:29 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Justins ... welll said... and it's true...


and Crazy... I am sure you will land on your feet and be better than before!!


You are correct!  I sure I will hit the ground running.  I just don't know that I want my financial life to be in someone else's hands ever again so I may start my own business.  I worked at that company for 12 years!!!  Not even offered a severance package but asked to train the boss on the bookkeeping/payroll end of my job.  HA! :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 11:46:09 PM
Quote from: "Rooscrew"
Hotshot~

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Crazymom~

You are in my thoughts & prayers. Everything will work out just fine when all is said and done. There's a reason for everything that happens in our lives.


Roo~


Thanks Roo! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 11:46:16 PM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Hey Monkeys.  I want to thank everyone here that has made me feel better regarding the changes in my life.  It warms me from head to toe knowing that monkeys with much more on their plate than mine can send positive energy my way!  Watch out world here I come with all new ideas!!!  Maybe I will be famous, ya never know.  Are there any monkeys here that can give me any advise on starting a home based business.  I could just call it Monkey Business!!!


Do you want to have an internet only business or one that is brick & mortar but located in your home?  What interests you, what skills do you have, what talents do you possess?  Do you have money to invest in the business?

If you type well, medical transcription seems to work well in the home.  Selling on eBay is another option.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:47:10 PM
Quote from: "Rooscrew"
Mrs. Red~

I also wanted to send you lots of {{{{HUGS}}}} your way as well. Red, Tom, Klaas and you do a wonderful & awesome job here at SM.
Ya'll ROCK!


Another thing that makes ya' wonder, didn't the K2's lawyer say back a few months ago that there would a trial in June. I think they're running out of time seeing as they only have 3 more days to do that as well.  :)

Roo~


Thank you Roo!! and yes ... there have been so many crazy things going on  out of Aruba...I forgot about Koch's statement... :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Yellow Ribbon on June 28, 2006, 11:47:55 PM
I see Blogs for Natalee is gone. Anybody know when that happened?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: msmarple on June 28, 2006, 11:48:26 PM
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
We are coming up on the anniversary of the Arubans making Beth apologize for accusing the boys. Does anyone remember what date that was?


The apology was July 8.

2Ks released JULY 4.

The Saturday of July 4 weekend 2005 (July 2) was when Shasta Groene was found.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 11:50:08 PM
Quote from: "Rooscrew"
Hotshot~

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Crazymom~

You are in my thoughts & prayers. Everything will work out just fine when all is said and done. There's a reason for everything that happens in our lives.


Roo~

TY ROO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Yellow Ribbon on June 28, 2006, 11:50:25 PM
Quote from: "msmarple"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
We are coming up on the anniversary of the Arubans making Beth apologize for accusing the boys. Does anyone remember what date that was?


The apology was July 8.

2Ks released JULY 4.

The Saturday of July 4 weekend 2005 (July 2) was when Shasta Groene was found.


Thanks MsMarple.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
[KJ cannot be forced  to end her investigation by the judge in the PvdS civil suit in Aruba. She has 11 more months to pursue this.  I don't think she will end this case until at least after the NY judge decides on the civil suit here.  KJ I believe wants to solve and prosecute this case, b/c otherwise she will always be noted as the Dutch prosecutor who failed to bring charges is this world  reknown high profile case..


Sunfreak, I agree with you on the first part.  This would be a bad time to fork over a huge chunk of change to Paulus when they have no money and the taxpayers are angry.

But I am not sure KJ would not rather be known as a team player to took one for the team, the Dutch elitist living on Aruba, that win this case.  She has not done one thing that I am aware of that has impressed me with her desire or even goal of actually prosecuting.  I wish I didnt think that and hope I am wrong.  I think this would be over if she had seriously applied the evidence that even we aer aware of.

 :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 11:53:37 PM
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
I see Blogs for Natalee is gone. Anybody know when that happened?


It is?? Really??? They have a back up site...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 28, 2006, 11:54:33 PM
Quote
Sunfreak, I agree with you on the first part. This would be a bad time to fork over a huge chunk of change to Paulus when they have no money and the taxpayers are angry.

I can't think of a better time to give Paulus money. If that doesn't wake-up the Island to the madness -- nothing will. The citizens need to be made angry about this!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 28, 2006, 11:54:39 PM
Do you want to have an internet only business or one that is brick & mortar but located in your home?  What interests you, what skills do you have, what talents do you possess?  Do you have money to invest in the business?

If you type well, medical transcription seems to work well in the home.  Selling on eBay is another option.[/quote]

Have an idea and it has to do with printing and chocolates!!  I am not a fast typist but can do ok as long as I have a back button.  I have a mac and a pc, with word programs, graphic programs, accounting/spreadsheets and all types of non essential programs.  I am sort of a the jack of all trades and the master of none! :lol:

I was given the idea to start consultanting new start up businesses with setting up their Quickbooks programs and giving a quick training just to get them on their feet.  My accountant actually suggested that because he is always being called requesting that service.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sb on June 28, 2006, 11:54:52 PM
I don't think BFN is out permanently, they seem to be having some kind of bandwidth problem.

Did ALL of the pro-family sites go out at once back last Friday night? I was on the road and couldn't follow things very well with the worst Internet "high-speed" (lol) connection ever invented and all the family stuff we were all doing.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 11:55:38 PM
Let's see. . . .they could deport the Colombian witness and release all three J2K from even being suspects?  Along with all the rest of them?

Yes, something nasty will happen over the holiday weekend I am sure.  Always does.  Yet another Aruban transparancy.   :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Yellow Ribbon on June 28, 2006, 11:56:46 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
I see Blogs for Natalee is gone. Anybody know when that happened?


It is?? Really??? They have a back up site...


If you go to Blogs for Natalee it says "Notice: This domain name expired on 06/23/06 and is pending renewal or deletion" and "This page is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com"


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
I see Blogs for Natalee is gone. Anybody know when that happened?


Yes, they ran out of bandwidth again.  They are posting at their backup site:

http://www.prayfornatalee.com/forum/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: LouiseVargas on June 28, 2006, 11:57:51 PM
Hello Beautiful Monkeys!  Carnut, Chata, cp405, crazymom, Debbie, igsigs, justinsmama, mrs. red, msmarple, Rooscrew, San, spooky112483, SunFreak2, tcumom, wreck, and Yellow Ribbon.

I'm just jumping in here without having read the back pages. I had a long day and I'm tired.

How is everyone?

What is the topic tonight? Can you catch me up?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 11:58:11 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote
Sunfreak, I agree with you on the first part. This would be a bad time to fork over a huge chunk of change to Paulus when they have no money and the taxpayers are angry.

I can't think of a better time to give Paulus money. If that doesn't wake-up the Island to the madness -- nothing will. The citizens need to be made angry about this!!


Right, Wreck, would love for it to happen now but don't think they are that foolish.  I could be wrong, however.  Riots might ensue.   8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 11:58:24 PM
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
I see Blogs for Natalee is gone. Anybody know when that happened?


It is?? Really??? They have a back up site...


If you go to Blogs for Natalee it says "Notice: This domain name expired on 06/23/06 and is pending renewal or deletion" and "This page is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com"


Woa that's new..let me check.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 12:00:50 AM
OMG.. it's way past my bedtime... good nite monkeys... keep the faith!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Yellow Ribbon on June 29, 2006, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
I see Blogs for Natalee is gone. Anybody know when that happened?


Yes, they ran out of bandwidth again.  They are posting at their backup site:

http://www.prayfornatalee.com/forum/


Thanks Klaas. That's a great name for their site. Glad to know they are still on line.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sb on June 29, 2006, 12:03:12 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
[KJ cannot be forced  to end her investigation by the judge in the PvdS civil suit in Aruba. She has 11 more months to pursue this.  I don't think she will end this case until at least after the NY judge decides on the civil suit here.  KJ I believe wants to solve and prosecute this case, b/c otherwise she will always be noted as the Dutch prosecutor who failed to bring charges is this world reknown high profile case..


I am beginning to worry about the problem of this odd "triangulation" that is happening between US, Holland and Aruba.

The Dutch are stonewalling around Joran. They are trying to keep control in Aruba. IF we push them on Joran it may weaken their position and give cover to the native Aruban government to submit to the siren song of Chavez from 17 miles across the water. It is a real catch-22 for us. Those who keep pointing fingers at Condi Rice and asking why our gov't doesn't DO more, need to think all that through a bit.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cp405 on June 29, 2006, 12:03:36 AM
Hi LV, how's that new kitty?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Rooscrew on June 29, 2006, 12:05:31 AM
Hello Louise!  :)

Goodnight Mrs. Red  :)


Roo~


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Yellow Ribbon on June 29, 2006, 12:10:25 AM
Well it's Bedtime for Bonzo over here. Goodnight Monkeys.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 12:13:21 AM
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
I see Blogs for Natalee is gone. Anybody know when that happened?


Yes, they ran out of bandwidth again.  They are posting at their backup site:

http://www.prayfornatalee.com/forum/


Thanks Klaas. That's a great name for their site. Glad to know they are still on line.


Yes, they have what looks like maybe what might be called a mirror site.  Looks just like their old one and posts the same.    Not sure if you have to register again or can just log in but you can post because I have been last few days.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 12:14:17 AM
Good night Mrs Red and Yellow Ribbon!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 12:14:57 AM
Hi Louise!  You have a new kitty?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 12:16:17 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Yellow Ribbon"
I see Blogs for Natalee is gone. Anybody know when that happened?


Yes, they ran out of bandwidth again.  They are posting at their backup site:

http://www.prayfornatalee.com/forum/


Thanks Klaas. That's a great name for their site. Glad to know they are still on line.


Yes, they have what looks like maybe what might be called a mirror site.  Looks just like their old one and posts the same.    Not sure if you have to register again or can just log in but you can post because I have been last few days.

.


I tried to get in, but couldn't, wondered if reregistering was required or if I had just did something wrong.

Did you have to reregister?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:18:34 AM
Carnut - I believe you have to re-register


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 29, 2006, 12:25:23 AM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Do you want to have an internet only business or one that is brick & mortar but located in your home?  What interests you, what skills do you have, what talents do you possess?  Do you have money to invest in the business?

If you type well, medical transcription seems to work well in the home.  Selling on eBay is another option.


Have an idea and it has to do with printing and chocolates!!  I am not a fast typist but can do ok as long as I have a back button.  I have a mac and a pc, with word programs, graphic programs, accounting/spreadsheets and all types of non essential programs.  I am sort of a the jack of all trades and the master of none! :lol:

I was given the idea to start consultanting new start up businesses with setting up their Quickbooks programs and giving a quick training just to get them on their feet.  My accountant actually suggested that because he is always being called requesting that service.[/quote]

That sounds like a great idea.  You could check with your local community college to see if one is already offered.  If not you could approach the school about teaching one for the adult continuing education classes. If they have one you could gather info from how that course is run.  Other sources to find participants for your classes would be at churches, senior centers.  You could contact the Better Business Bureau for referrals.  A decemt book that will take you thru the how to's and legalities of starting a new business  is Starting Your Own Home Based Business for Dummies.

Good Luck and keep us informed on your "project."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 12:30:48 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
I tried to get in, but couldn't, wondered if reregistering was required or if I had just did something wrong.

Did you have to reregister?


You know, I think I did but I just used the old username and password to do it.  So now I am not really sure if it was a new registration or I just logged in.   :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 12:31:29 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"

That sounds like a great idea.  You could check with your local community college to see if one is already offered.  If not you could approach the school about teaching one for the adult continuing education classes. If they have one you could gather info from how that course is run.  Other sources to find participants for your classes would be at churches, senior centers.  You could contact the Better Business Bureau for referrals.  A decemt book that will take you thru the how to's and legalities of starting a new business  is Starting Your Own Home Based Business for Dummies.

Good Luck and keep us informed on your "project."


I sure will.  I guess my first stop will be Barnes and Noble.  Thanks for the ideas. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 12:35:21 AM
.
Crazymom,
I am pretty sure, like others, that you will find something that will pay enough that you can do at home.  And you will be there with the kids, too.  I started a dog kennel but do not recommend that as I lose money most of the time, lol.  But bet dog grooming would pay rather well.  Not sure how you get certified or even if it is required.  I envy my friends in Atlanta as they have one that has a portable salon and comes tot heir house and parks in their driveway and grooms their dogs in the van.  

There are all kinds of things one can do and I know you will find just the right one.   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 12:38:11 AM
Crazy
My boss just started using Quickbooks and I have all kinds of questions.  I am really having a time figuring it all out.  So I want you to know that there could very well be a market for that kind of thing.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 12:39:43 AM
Hello everyone

So the witness lied, huh? Well since I dont believe they ever went to the beach, I figured he wasnt telling the truth. Lets just hope the NY judge is paying attention to all this crap.

o/t I am loving my new TV right now :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 29, 2006, 12:44:05 AM
crazymom-

Here is a website for you, which can give you all you really need in terms of requirements for a consulting/training business www.entrepreneur.com

You can also apply online in your state with the secretary of state for an LLC or limited liability corporation for about $250, and have a federal tax ID assigned within 24 hours too.

Email me if I can help, I think it's a great plan !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 12:45:46 AM
.
Spooky,
Did you put your TV up on the wall?  I see all those photos and that looks so neat but I got a little one, 27 inches and the thing weighs a ton!  I was shocked as thought since they hang them on the wall, would be very lightweight.  Wrong!  I like mine, too, but it is nothing like your huge one.  Used to have 36 inch screen so had to get used to smaller but is LCD and all that so is good.   :D

I think manufacturers would put a handle on top of refrigerator and tell us it is portable sometimes.  But that is one huge screen and I know you will enjoy it because of the detail you will see in your sports programs.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 29, 2006, 12:47:04 AM
Well, I know it's a bit late to say Thank-you, but thanks to all that cheered me up today.  To those who are having problems, I'll say a prayer tonight.  Sleep tight everyone, maybe tomorrow will bring a brighter light on the case.  Good night.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cp405 on June 29, 2006, 12:48:03 AM
Hey spooky, how was PCB?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cp405 on June 29, 2006, 12:49:28 AM
Nite Hotshot, I am going to bed also, been lurking but not posting.
(((hugs))).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 29, 2006, 12:50:01 AM
Hello!

Crazymom, you are going to be just fine; I feel it.  Give my love to my princess and tell her I'll see her this fall.

Hotshot, don't you worry about them; strategic team?  I've never even heard of them, and strategic is just a name they call themselves.  I mean, really, who made anybody strategic?  People can call themselves anything they want; it's what they do that's pertinent--and you've done plenty on Natalee's behalf.  Remember:  tiara, and the only way you can look at your detractors is down your nose--if you even deign to look at them; and I would just say don't bother; just spit on the ground and go on!!  Keep up your good work.

OK, I'm going!!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 12:50:34 AM
Quote from: "cp405"
Nite Hotshot, I am going to bed also, been lurking but not posting.
(((hugs))).


Night CP, hug Nemo for me. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 29, 2006, 12:51:10 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Well, I know it's a bit late to say Thank-you, but thanks to all that cheered me up today.  To those who are having problems, I'll say a prayer tonight.  Sleep tight everyone, maybe tomorrow will bring a brighter light on the case.  Good night.


HotSHot- as they say here in Tara country - "afterall, tomorrow is another day."  

Good Nite everyone, Sweet dreams.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 12:54:41 AM
SpookyYou still here?[/b]


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cp405 on June 29, 2006, 12:56:30 AM
Will do Lala's.

darleen, hope you have a wonderful trip.  See you in the Fall.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 29, 2006, 12:59:06 AM
Thanks, Cp; and later in the year, we will turn on our snow machines!!!! :D

Good night!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 12:59:35 AM
No, Anna, the TV is not hung on the wall. I have this huge entertainment center with crap all over it and this TV just barely fits :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 01:01:04 AM
Hey Spooky, I have an O/T question for you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:03:12 AM
Quote from: "cp405"
Hey spooky, how was PCB?


hi sweetie! beach was beautiful and I had a great time. got a nice tan too :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:04:45 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hey Spooky, I have an O/T question for you?


hey ask away dear :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: LouiseVargas on June 29, 2006, 01:06:31 AM
Hey cp405!  How ya doing? My baby kitty is so amusing. Thanks for asking.

Hi Rooscrew!  Everything going well with you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 01:06:53 AM
Spooky
How much would you pay for a Alabama 315 football signed by the Bear and the rest of the coaches and team? Just curious?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 01:07:42 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Spooky
How much would you pay for a Alabama 315 football signed by the Bear and the rest of the coaches and team? Just curious?


Brodie wasn't the quarterback back then. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 01:08:45 AM
Hey everyone!  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 01:10:23 AM
.
Well CARNUT OR WRECK if you are still here, speaking of dragging people through the mud, do you remember when Dan Riehl wrote that awful FRONT PAGE article saying that Frank and I killed Natalee and we did it with our hate because we supported the boycott?  And kept asking scubajap those annoying questions?

That was sort of embarrassing.  He always bans you so you can't possibly defend yourself, too.  But I did survive and Hotshot will as well.   :D   It is funny to me now but at the time I was embarrassed which is what he wanted to do.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 01:12:09 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Spooky
How much would you pay for a Alabama 315 football signed by the Bear and the rest of the coaches and team? Just curious?


Brodie wasn't the quarterback back then. :lol:


SHHHH! Don't tell her.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:13:05 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Spooky
How much would you pay for a Alabama 315 football signed by the Bear and the rest of the coaches and team? Just curious?


Brodie wasn't the quarterback back then. :lol:


 :lol: yeah but i already have brodie's autograph
wow Lalas i'm not sure. it's worth more then i could pay, i will say that. if i had a bunch of money i think i could justify somewhere around a grand for it. exactly how rare that ball is though would be the question. i would think with all those autographs it would be pretty rare. so i would say around $1000. but thats total speculation on my part. i can find out for you tomorrow though if you're looking for a value.??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 01:13:07 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
OK... y'all I am going off topic to be on topic...

Kath you have our support.. it's all good.... :wink:


I was talking via email with someone about the video of BO.D... and why that is being played all of the time...

and this morning it occured to me that they are floating a trial ballon for filing of imperfect service or some other crap if the Judge rules in our favor......


I don't quite understand what you mean, Mrs. Red ~ please explain...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 01:14:19 AM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
crazymom-

Here is a website for you, which can give you all you really need in terms of requirements for a consulting/training business www.entrepreneur.com

You can also apply online in your state with the secretary of state for an LLC or limited liability corporation for about $250, and have a federal tax ID assigned within 24 hours too.

Email me if I can help, I think it's a great plan !!


That is so funny because I have been at that website several times today already!!!  I am trying to get my ducks in a row because I feel like I am starting over fresh!  A new beginning!  I know I will be asking for tons of advise from my buddies!! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cp405 on June 29, 2006, 01:15:04 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
.
Well CARNUT OR WRECK if you are still here, speaking of dragging people through the mud, do you remember when Dan Riehl wrote that awful FRONT PAGE article saying that Frank and I killed Natalee and we did it with our hate because we supported the boycott?  And kept asking scubajap those annoying questions?

That was sort of embarrassing.  He always bans you so you can't possibly defend yourself, too.  But I did survive and Hotshot will as well.   :D   It is funny to me now but at the time I was embarrassed which is what he wanted to do.


I remember that Anna


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 01:16:45 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
.
Crazymom,
I am pretty sure, like others, that you will find something that will pay enough that you can do at home.  And you will be there with the kids, too.  I started a dog kennel but do not recommend that as I lose money most of the time, lol.  But bet dog grooming would pay rather well.  Not sure how you get certified or even if it is required.  I envy my friends in Atlanta as they have one that has a portable salon and comes tot heir house and parks in their driveway and grooms their dogs in the van.  

There are all kinds of things one can do and I know you will find just the right one.   :D


I wouldn't make a penny because I would spend on luxuries for the pups.  I just adopted a cute little JRT/Beagle mix and have spent a fortune.    :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cp405 on June 29, 2006, 01:17:24 AM
XXX, did you ever listen to John Ziegler?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 01:17:25 AM
Thanks Spooky, If you could email me an answer I would really appreciate it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 01:17:30 AM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hello!

Crazymom, you are going to be just fine; I feel it.  Give my love to my princess and tell her I'll see her this fall.

Hotshot, don't you worry about them; strategic team?  I've never even heard of them, and strategic is just a name they call themselves.  I mean, really, who made anybody strategic?  People can call themselves anything they want; it's what they do that's pertinent--and you've done plenty on Natalee's behalf.  Remember:  tiara, and the only way you can look at your detractors is down your nose--if you even deign to look at them; and I would just say don't bother; just spit on the ground and go on!!  Keep up your good work.

OK, I'm going!!! :lol:


Thanks darleen!  Be safe and happy trails to you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:18:15 AM
Lala's, I got an email into an expert on that subject :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cp405 on June 29, 2006, 01:18:46 AM
Louise, we're still waiting for pictures.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Rooscrew on June 29, 2006, 01:19:34 AM
Quote from: "LouiseVargas"


Hi Rooscrew!  Everything going well with you?



Everything is going pretty good right now around my house, thanks for asking. I hope all is going well with you and your new kitty.  :)

Roo~


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 01:19:48 AM
Quote from: "cp405"
[
I remember that Anna


Do you, CP?  Well, not just because it was me but I really think that was a lowdown sorry thing for him to do.  Imagine if Red wrote that about a poster here, etc.   :roll:   But I came to feel like considering the source was a good thing to do and that made it OK eventually but something that over the top is startling to say the least.  Didn't really expect it back then either.  Now I expect just about anything.  

We had some wild posting back then, didn't we?  There is a link on the Refugee site to the archives for some reason now, too.  They say he gave them permission.  I copied a few of the better Discussion Forums.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 01:20:28 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I just think all these witnesses just muddy the water and just takes the attention away from those that know what happen that night.. When the rearrest the original PIMPS then I will get excited..

I agree Terry.


Yup ~ and DADDY VDsloot too...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 01:21:23 AM
Lala's I will answer any questions I can regarding quickbooks for you! Anytime!

cp405, last week you asked about the tropical depression/storm Alberto and my vacation.  He left us alone and gave the kids nice waves for learning to boogie board.  They had a blast and we are ready to go back next year!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 01:23:31 AM
Quote from: "cp405"
XXX, did you ever listen to John Ziegler?


Nah...unfortunately, haven't got the chance to.  :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 01:24:42 AM
Quote from: "lexie"
With arubatruth and scrux going down, the blogs that have been supportive of the family can probably expect troll attacks to disrupt things.  I suspect that there are many who would attempt to sabotage posters who have been long-time vocal supporters of the family.  And many others who just like to stir the pot.


I am very thankful for the way this board is run ~ almost impossible for a troll to settle in...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: LouiseVargas on June 29, 2006, 01:25:08 AM
Hi, You Sweet and Crazymom!

Yup. I got a baby kitten; she is about 9 weeks old, born April 16. I only went to buy cat litter and I saw a kitten that I've been waiting to find for years. Her name is Guinevere (wife of Arthur and lover of Lancelot). Her name in Welsh means "white shadow" - she is cream with silver stripes and silver polka dots on her tummy. Her eyes are gold so her middle name is GoldenEye. Can you tell that I'm in love?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:26:29 AM
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 01:27:49 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Lala's, I got an email into an expert on that subject :wink:


Thanks, I knew you were the person to ask.  See monkeys are not all bananas now, are they?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cp405 on June 29, 2006, 01:28:11 AM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Lala's I will answer any questions I can regarding quickbooks for you! Anytime!

cp405, last week you asked about the tropical depression/storm Alberto and my vacation.  He left us alone and gave the kids nice waves for learning to boogie board.  They had a blast and we are ready to go back next year!


Funny that you remembered that, I was thinking about you when that was going on.  DH wants to head to Gulf Shores, but we have too many animals.  Anna, could we drop off at your kennel?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:28:41 AM
Quote from: "LouiseVargas"
Hi, You Sweet and Crazymom!

Yup. I got a baby kitten; she is about 9 weeks old, born April 16. I only went to buy cat litter and I saw a kitten that I've been waiting to find for years. Her name is Guinevere (wife of Arthur and lover of Lancelot). Her name in Welsh means "white shadow" - she is cream with silver stripes and silver polka dots on her tummy. Her eyes are gold so her middle name is GoldenEye. Can you tell that I'm in love?


wow what a beautiful kitten! Have you put pictures up for us to see her?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 01:29:05 AM
Quote from: "LouiseVargas"
Hi, You Sweet and Crazymom!

Yup. I got a baby kitten; she is about 9 weeks old, born April 16. I only went to buy cat litter and I saw a kitten that I've been waiting to find for years. Her name is Guinevere (wife of Arthur and lover of Lancelot). Her name in Welsh means "white shadow" - she is cream with silver stripes and silver polka dots on her tummy. Her eyes are gold so her middle name is GoldenEye. Can you tell that I'm in love?


SHe sounds sooo sweet.  I have three "BIG" cats. One sand color with gold eyes named Sanzabar, A reddish/sand long hair with green eyes named Highway (can you guess?) and Sylvester (I bet you can't guess what he looks like! :lol:  :lol: ) and now a 6 month old puppy we rescued from the pound named.......Lucky Dog! He just has that look!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:29:47 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "cp405"
[
I remember that Anna


Do you, CP?  Well, not just because it was me but I really think that was a lowdown sorry thing for him to do.  Imagine if Red wrote that about a poster here, etc.   :roll:   But I came to feel like considering the source was a good thing to do and that made it OK eventually but something that over the top is startling to say the least.  Didn't really expect it back then either.  Now I expect just about anything.  

We had some wild posting back then, didn't we?  There is a link on the Refugee site to the archives for some reason now, too.  They say he gave them permission.  I copied a few of the better Discussion Forums.

.


Fraid I don't remember that specific instance Anna.

Don't know if that was before or after the orgasm theory or the pics of dancing on the bar, but I was getting kinda sick of things about then and started looking elsewhere for 'real' info.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 01:30:19 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


'Sup girl? ;)  How was your day?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 01:30:34 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


Hey spooky!  I was wondering where you were!!! I guess we crossed vacations!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 01:31:57 AM
Quote from: "crazymom"
[
I wouldn't make a penny because I would spend on luxuries for the pups.  I just adopted a cute little JRT/Beagle mix and have spent a fortune.    :lol:


Ah, you are on to the secret of my failure, lol.  Between that $1.75 a can dog food that smells so good, the lamb ears and toys, well, a pup has to have some luxuries in life.   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Bearlyhere on June 29, 2006, 01:32:24 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


Hi Spooky!   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:32:42 AM
Hey XXX! Saw a post earlier where you asked about McD's chicken sandwiches.

I've enjoyed the Chicken sandwichs and I'm kinda hooked on the Chicken Snack Wraps as well.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 01:33:43 AM
Quote from: "cp405"
[Funny that you remembered that, I was thinking about you when that was going on.  DH wants to head to Gulf Shores, but we have too many animals.  Anna, could we drop off at your kennel?


Sure, CP, drop them off!  The more the merrier!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:33:51 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "crazymom"
[
I wouldn't make a penny because I would spend on luxuries for the pups.  I just adopted a cute little JRT/Beagle mix and have spent a fortune.    :lol:


Ah, you are on to the secret of my failure, lol.  Between that $1.75 a can dog food that smells so good, the lamb ears and toys, well, a pup has to have some luxuries in life.   :D


Ah gee, my poor Shadow is wasting her life away on WalMarts $.49 cans.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on June 29, 2006, 01:34:10 AM
Night monkeys, time for this old lady to hit the hay.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: crazymom on June 29, 2006, 01:36:54 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Night monkeys, time for this old lady to hit the hay.


I think I will follow Lala's because I do have to finish out the work at "that place I used to work" and clean out my desk.  Thanks for all the support and well wishes!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 01:37:49 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Hey XXX! Saw a post earlier where you asked about McD's chicken sandwiches.

I've enjoyed the Chicken sandwichs and I'm kinda hooked on the Chicken Snack Wraps as well.


Although I do enjoy McDonald's, I was kind of joking (in the spirit of a link someone provided with regards to actors portraying themselves as posters on message boards in order to push their products to the membership).  But, I'm glad you like them as well!  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 01:37:51 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
Fraid I don't remember that specific instance Anna.

Don't know if that was before or after the orgasm theory or the pics of dancing on the bar, but I was getting kinda sick of things about then and started looking elsewhere for 'real' info.



It was after the orgasm theory so like you, I was ready to leave, just
wanted to do it on my own terms, however.  Remember the vanishing posts?  Those had to be among the strangest things yet.  

A certain blog owner would post and leave it up about a minute then delete it so he could deny ever posting such a thing for those of you who were not posting or reading at that site back then.  And here it is over a year later!   :roll:

I think I am just bummed out about the witness supposedly admitting to lying and that he just made all of that up.  ALE should have verified better before running with his story if it had no credibility.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:39:32 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Hey XXX! Saw a post earlier where you asked about McD's chicken sandwiches.

I've enjoyed the Chicken sandwichs and I'm kinda hooked on the Chicken Snack Wraps as well.


Although I do enjoy McDonald's, I was kind of joking (in the spirit of a link someone provided with regards to actors portraying themselves as posters on message boards in order to push their products to the membership).  But, I'm glad you like them as well!  ;)


Kinda figured that, but didn't want to be too cynical in my response.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 01:41:18 AM
Quote from: "LouiseVargas"
Hi, You Sweet and Crazymom!

Yup. I got a baby kitten; she is about 9 weeks old, born April 16. I only went to buy cat litter and I saw a kitten that I've been waiting to find for years. Her name is Guinevere (wife of Arthur and lover of Lancelot). Her name in Welsh means "white shadow" - she is cream with silver stripes and silver polka dots on her tummy. Her eyes are gold so her middle name is GoldenEye. Can you tell that I'm in love?


That kitty sounds like it has landed in the right home.  I don't think it could be in a better place.  

You know I have a rose named Guinevere.   :lol:   White, with liver pink etching around the buds with blooms that turn pure white after opening.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:41:18 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Lala's, I got an email into an expert on that subject :wink:


Thanks, I knew you were the person to ask.  See monkeys are not all bananas now, are they?  :lol:


you will think this is funny....on my way back from visiting my friend in TN Fri. her brother and I where doing a crossword puzzle in the back seat and the question was basically what is a buckeye and something else i dont remember. well i knew a buckeye was a nut so I go "it's 'nut'. and i only know that cause Ohio ST. mascot is a buckeye. see, football does teach me stuff" they thought i was an idiot :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 01:41:23 AM
[quote="CarnutAh gee, my poor Shadow is wasting her life away on WalMarts $.49 cans.[/quote]

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Some Old Roy's brand has been recalled.  Not sure which.  But mine won't eat just anything and love to terrorize me that they are sick so is easier to feed them what they want.  After that bad Diamond food I got last winter, I am going with the better brands for is cheaper in the long run with these tiny little dogs that can get upset stomach, etc. so easily.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:41:36 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
Fraid I don't remember that specific instance Anna.

Don't know if that was before or after the orgasm theory or the pics of dancing on the bar, but I was getting kinda sick of things about then and started looking elsewhere for 'real' info.



It was after the orgasm theory so like you, I was ready to leave, just
wanted to do it on my own terms, however.  Remember the vanishing posts?  Those had to be among the strangest things yet.  

A certain blog owner would post and leave it up about a minute then delete it so he could deny ever posting such a thing for those of you who were not posting or reading at that site back then.  And here it is over a year later!   :roll:

I think I am just bummed out about the witness supposedly admitting to lying and that he just made all of that up.  ALE should have verified better before running with his story if it had no credibility.

.


Yes, now I do remember the vanishing posts quite well, but kinda figured it was his perogative to do so.

I just got fedup with the so obvious sellout, and then the hammering posters.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:43:09 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


'Sup girl? ;)  How was your day?


pretty good. boring at work but I had a nice steak at Texas Roadhouse tonight and i'm still stuffed! how are you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:44:09 AM
Quote from: "crazymom"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


Hey spooky!  I was wondering where you were!!! I guess we crossed vacations!


hey! how was your vacation? where'd you go?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:44:48 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
[quote="CarnutAh gee, my poor Shadow is wasting her life away on WalMarts $.49 cans.


 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Some Old Roy's brand has been recalled.  Not sure which.  But mine won't eat just anything and love to terrorize me that they are sick so is easier to feed them what they want.  After that bad Diamond food I got last winter, I am going with the better brands for is cheaper in the long run with these tiny little dogs that can get upset stomach, etc. so easily.

.[/quote]

OH gee, fraid poor old Shadow is just gonna have to tough it out.

She's always been my official food taster as well, always gets the last bite or lick of anything I eat.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 01:45:19 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "LouiseVargas"
Hi, You Sweet and Crazymom!

Yup. I got a baby kitten; she is about 9 weeks old, born April 16. I only went to buy cat litter and I saw a kitten that I've been waiting to find for years. Her name is Guinevere (wife of Arthur and lover of Lancelot). Her name in Welsh means "white shadow" - she is cream with silver stripes and silver polka dots on her tummy. Her eyes are gold so her middle name is GoldenEye. Can you tell that I'm in love?


That kitty sounds like it has landed in the right home.  I don't think it could be in a better place.  

You know I have a rose named Guinevere.   :lol:   White, with liver pink etching around the buds with blooms that turn pure white after opening.


Louise, silvery pink etching around the buds, not liver.  Gee, maybe I need to go to bed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 01:46:18 AM
Quote from: "Bearlyhere"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


Hi Spooky!   :D


hey Bearly. I miss your cute little bear avatar. always made me smile


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 01:46:31 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
Fraid I don't remember that specific instance Anna.

Don't know if that was before or after the orgasm theory or the pics of dancing on the bar, but I was getting kinda sick of things about then and started looking elsewhere for 'real' info.



It was after the orgasm theory so like you, I was ready to leave, just
wanted to do it on my own terms, however.  Remember the vanishing posts?  Those had to be among the strangest things yet.  

A certain blog owner would post and leave it up about a minute then delete it so he could deny ever posting such a thing for those of you who were not posting or reading at that site back then.  And here it is over a year later!   :roll:

I think I am just bummed out about the witness supposedly admitting to lying and that he just made all of that up.  ALE should have verified better before running with his story if it had no credibility.

.


Yes, now I do remember the vanishing posts quite well, but kinda figured it was his perogative to do so.

I just got fedup with the so obvious sellout, and then the hammering posters.


Never spent any time in that dump of a site.  Found this place first, and the rest is history.  I had always thought of them as "Big Lots", with this site being "Macy's"...ya know?  Glad I remained disciplined in that regard...


Title: Hello
Post by: IBE on June 29, 2006, 01:47:37 AM
Anna

Hi.. You guys are talking about Rheil World.. I remember you all now! I started there and then I followed an "Anna', "arubagirl I think" and "dutchlady" over here into the Code Talkers thread.

Way before the first crash It's been over year. I remember I came ina tad before the "bus" and so wanted to get on it but was lame on an avatar.

Sorry, I hadn't c l i c k ed on the name sooner.

We all are soooo dedicated to Natalee and her families!

I feel quite at home here on Scared Monkeys... for a while I thought it was "Sacred Monkeys" Still wear my pink SM tee shirt and love the big sized mug.

OK... some of us know what Saturday is... July 1 and some of us get retirement checks then or on the 3rd.

Let's celebrated the memory of our prayer chain and contribute to Paypal for Scared Monkeys for the return of Natalee and the end of corruption, cronyism, coverup. selfishness and elitism.

My donation won't be much but it all adds up and I am going also to try to find the Paypal link for Dana.

You all are more a part of my life than you will ever know!

God Bless,

IBE

PS does anyone hear from "dutchlady" anymore?  Is she OK?

Anna... I have a 13 inch TV so old it has one of those built in VCR's.

Rather put any extra $$ in my Mac. Matter of fact am late on DirectV so hope I still have an account for haven't turned on the TV for over 2 wks.

Used to live in Alexandria, and teach in Fairfax Co. Heard on this board they have floods...better get current on the TV acct.

Thanks again, for enriching my life!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 01:48:49 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


'Sup girl? ;)  How was your day?


pretty good. boring at work but I had a nice steak at Texas Roadhouse tonight and i'm still stuffed! how are you?


Just chillin'...watching "Sideways" on DVD.  It's still a bit hot 'round here, but otjerwise...all is good!  So, I saw you got your TV up.  When's the "sport watching" party?  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:49:31 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
Fraid I don't remember that specific instance Anna.

Don't know if that was before or after the orgasm theory or the pics of dancing on the bar, but I was getting kinda sick of things about then and started looking elsewhere for 'real' info.



It was after the orgasm theory so like you, I was ready to leave, just
wanted to do it on my own terms, however.  Remember the vanishing posts?  Those had to be among the strangest things yet.  

A certain blog owner would post and leave it up about a minute then delete it so he could deny ever posting such a thing for those of you who were not posting or reading at that site back then.  And here it is over a year later!   :roll:

I think I am just bummed out about the witness supposedly admitting to lying and that he just made all of that up.  ALE should have verified better before running with his story if it had no credibility.

.


Yes, now I do remember the vanishing posts quite well, but kinda figured it was his perogative to do so.

I just got fedup with the so obvious sellout, and then the hammering posters.


Never spent any time in that dump of a site.  Found this place first, and the rest is history.  I had always thought of them as "Big Lots", with this site being "Macy's"...ya know?  Glad I remained disciplined in that regard...


Well, the RWV was an interesting study in psychology before the refugees came along.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 01:50:45 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
Fraid I don't remember that specific instance Anna.

Don't know if that was before or after the orgasm theory or the pics of dancing on the bar, but I was getting kinda sick of things about then and started looking elsewhere for 'real' info.



It was after the orgasm theory so like you, I was ready to leave, just
wanted to do it on my own terms, however.  Remember the vanishing posts?  Those had to be among the strangest things yet.  

A certain blog owner would post and leave it up about a minute then delete it so he could deny ever posting such a thing for those of you who were not posting or reading at that site back then.  And here it is over a year later!   :roll:

I think I am just bummed out about the witness supposedly admitting to lying and that he just made all of that up.  ALE should have verified better before running with his story if it had no credibility.

.


Yes, now I do remember the vanishing posts quite well, but kinda figured it was his perogative to do so.

I just got fedup with the so obvious sellout, and then the hammering posters.


Never spent any time in that dump of a site.  Found this place first, and the rest is history.  I had always thought of them as "Big Lots", with this site being "Macy's"...ya know?  Glad I remained disciplined in that regard...


Well, the RWV was an interesting study in psychology before the refugees came along.


All the psychiatrists committed suicide after that last site came along. :lol:   No way to evaluate.  They ran out of Axes.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:53:16 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"


Never spent any time in that dump of a site.  Found this place first, and the rest is history.  I had always thought of them as "Big Lots", with this site being "Macy's"...ya know?  Glad I remained disciplined in that regard...


Well, the RWV was an interesting study in psychology before the refugees came along.


All the psychiatrists committed suicide after that last site came along. :lol:   No way to evaluate.  They ran out of Axes.


Say, I do remember Anna and some others posting on the sort of 'Lively Discussion Thread' that got setup so folks could post without acrimony on nonsense topics.

Do you all remember that?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 01:54:56 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"

Well, the RWV was an interesting study in psychology before the refugees came along.


Just not a fan at all!  They just seemed "dirty" to me.  But, who am I to judge I guess...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 01:56:53 AM
IBE,

You are freaking me out!!  I was on the Weather Channel looking up Fairfax and Alexandria, VA cause that is where my son and new DIL live and was worried about them!!

What a coincidence!

Yep I am that same old Anna still here a year later.

Actually RWV had excellent posters really good at research.  It was just the owner who was a bit strange.  We all stayed so long cause we were attached to each other in the forum and not really to Dan.  He did his famous 180 much to our surprise.  Bet he got lots of freebies for that.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 01:57:23 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Carnut"

Well, the RWV was an interesting study in psychology before the refugees came along.


Just not a fan at all!  They just seemed "dirty" to me.  But, who am I to judge I guess...


Well, it did evolve pretty fast into 'dirty', but I thought at first it was legit and Scubajap was unbiased.

Hey, I just finished watching 'Lawrence of Arabia' for the umpteenth time.

That movie brings out all the superlatives from me, sublime, tour de force.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:01:42 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...


Is the cat already out of the bag, Mrs. Red...  Seems the news going into the Holiday Weekend is that there is no truth in what this latest witness said...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 02:02:36 AM
.
Third,
RWV didn't start out that way.  There were good people in the beginning and even Dan supported the family then slowly it all changed to the total opposite.  Dan banned anybody he was afraid might be smarter than he was like Professor.  Wish he still posted.

Then the whole forum sort of lost its mind.  Sad, really.

Well IBE is reading my mind and so when that happens, tells its time for me to hit the monkey bunkey.  Going to be around one hundred degrees all weekend long, too.  

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:02:50 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...


Is the cat already out of the bag, Mrs. Red...  Seems the news going into the Holiday Weekend is that there is no truth in what this latest witness said...


Hello there Katz!  Didn't get the chance to say it earlier...;)  How are you doing?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 02:03:21 AM
Quote from: "Anna"


Actually RWV had excellent posters really good at research.  It was just the owner who was a bit strange.  We all stayed so long cause we were attached to each other in the forum and not really to Dan.  He did his famous 180 much to our surprise.  Bet he got lots of freebies for that.

.


Well, the Melody event really got to me, sure seemed that Dan was coddeling her bigtime and then Scuba could do no wrong.

But the Granny hung in there bigtime with real world logic on all the misdirections and fantasies.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:03:42 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Wasn't June 30th the date that KJ needed to present the judge with all her evidence against JK2?  The judge in Paulus suit for $$$ ?

Oh Klaasend... good point!! what do y'all wanna bet that they sneak it in now?


Well if this witness lied, then he is a non issue in the case.  Unless of course they are going to try and pin it on him.  My guess is by Friday, the witness will be deported and KJ will turn in what she has which will not be enough to charge anyone with.


Excellent guess, Klaas....  lets see what happens.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:04:17 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Hello!!!!!!! to everyone in the cage right now!!!
I missed ya'll last week. I hope everyone had a great day :D


'Sup girl? ;)  How was your day?


pretty good. boring at work but I had a nice steak at Texas Roadhouse tonight and i'm still stuffed! how are you?


Just chillin'...watching "Sideways" on DVD.  It's still a bit hot 'round here, but otjerwise...all is good!  So, I saw you got your TV up.  When's the "sport watching" party?  ;)


I love that movie. I've ben watching "closer" on HBO, it's ok, but gets worse everytime i see it.
we will party anytime you can get out here :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:06:08 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
.
Third,
RWV didn't start out that way.  There were good people in the beginning and even Dan supported the family then slowly it all changed to the total opposite.  Dan banned anybody he was afraid might be smarter than he was like Professor.  Wish he still posted.

Then the whole forum sort of lost its mind.  Sad, really.

Well IBE is reading my mind and so when that happens, tells its time for me to hit the monkey bunkey.  Going to be around one hundred degrees all weekend long, too.  

.


I'm sure you are probably right.  All I knew of it was the "evil" side.  Wasn't there at all for the good.  But, then again, wasn't there for either really.  But, as someone said in here not too long ago (sorry can't credit directly.  I simply do not remember exactly who posted it)...I'm just damn glad this site found me first!  It's of the highest quality, and is the basis for which each "other" site is judged against.  We should ALL be proud of that fact...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 02:06:38 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"


Never spent any time in that dump of a site.  Found this place first, and the rest is history.  I had always thought of them as "Big Lots", with this site being "Macy's"...ya know?  Glad I remained disciplined in that regard...


Well, the RWV was an interesting study in psychology before the refugees came along.


All the psychiatrists committed suicide after that last site came along. :lol:   No way to evaluate.  They ran out of Axes.


Say, I do remember Anna and some others posting on the sort of 'Lively Discussion Thread' that got setup so folks could post without acrimony on nonsense topics.

Do you all remember that?


Yes, but you did not know my screen name so you did not know I was there.  I was.  Who were you? :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 02:06:38 AM
Spooky,
I wonder how TTownMike is.  Do you ever hear from him??  He always used to post late at night, too.  Was one of my favs.

And as he used to say, time for me to hit the Monkey Bunkey.

Goodnight, all.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 02:09:27 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"


Never spent any time in that dump of a site.  Found this place first, and the rest is history.  I had always thought of them as "Big Lots", with this site being "Macy's"...ya know?  Glad I remained disciplined in that regard...


Well, the RWV was an interesting study in psychology before the refugees came along.


All the psychiatrists committed suicide after that last site came along. :lol:   No way to evaluate.  They ran out of Axes.


Say, I do remember Anna and some others posting on the sort of 'Lively Discussion Thread' that got setup so folks could post without acrimony on nonsense topics.

Do you all remember that?


Yes, but you did not know my screen name so you did not know I was there.  I was.  Who were you? :wink:


I never did post there, I just read and theorised.

I did email back and forth a bit with Scuba when she was teasing about the 'Bushy Haired Stranger' theory, but hadn't yet revealed it.

But that was all the contact I actually had at that site.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:09:29 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
...we will party anytime you can get out here :D


All right Spook! I just may hold you to that!  I'll bring the "Laker Dynasty" 5-disc DVD set when I do...aaiigghhtt???   Just make sure you have plenty of Pacifico's in the fridge...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 02:11:43 AM
Carnut, I am surprised.  I knew after one post Scubajap was a self-contained undercover B for Aruba.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:13:10 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Spooky,
I wonder how TTownMike is.  Do you ever hear from him??  He always used to post late at night, too.  Was one of my favs.

And as he used to say, time for me to hit the Monkey Bunkey.

Goodnight, all.

.


I heard from him last week actually and I forgot to tell ya'll he said a big hello and has had some computer problems but misses everyone.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 02:13:52 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Carnut, I am surprised.  I knew after one post Scubajap was a self-contained undercover B for Aruba.


Well, now, I am pretty gullible.

She seemed to come across with some objectivity to me, until things started seeming irrational to the known info that came out.

And then she started going negative on everything that might support what we all know happened.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:14:59 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
...we will party anytime you can get out here :D


All right Spook! I just may hold you to that!  I'll bring the "Laker Dynasty" 5-disc DVD set when I do...aaiigghhtt???   Just make sure you have plenty of Pacifico's in the fridge...;)


am i the only female you know that is actually excited about seeing that? lol
that would be awsome, consider fridge packed :!:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 02:16:03 AM
She had been posting on some of the side posts for months, before she started doing the happy hour post.  I had already figured her out, I guess.  I think my DH got banned for not only questioning her but a poster who he believed to be Anita who was posting with the overnight guest, Melody.  I rather think Dan banned him because he guessed correctly, that it was Anita, who was on there saying the worst things about Dave and Scuba was agreeing with them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 02:17:57 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
She had been posting on some of the side posts for months, before she started doing the happy hour post.  I had already figured her out, I guess.  I think my DH got banned for not only questioning her but a poster who he believed to be Anita who was posting with the overnight guest, Melody.  I rather think Dan banned him because he guessed correctly, that it was Anita, who was on there saying the worst things about Dave and Scuba was agreeing with them.


Yep, that's just about the time I 'saw the light' and started looking else where.

I'd just check back in on occasion to see if Granny was still there tuffing it out  fighting the good fight.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:18:43 AM
hey Tylergal and carnut! i'm not ignoring ya'll {{hugs}}


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 02:20:05 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
She had been posting on some of the side posts for months, before she started doing the happy hour post.  I had already figured her out, I guess.  I think my DH got banned for not only questioning her but a poster who he believed to be Anita who was posting with the overnight guest, Melody.  I rather think Dan banned him because he guessed correctly, that it was Anita, who was on there saying the worst things about Dave and Scuba was agreeing with them.


Yep, that's just about the time I 'saw the light' and started looking else where.

I'd just check back in on occasion to see if Granny was still there tuffing it out  fighting the good fight.


That's another one of the amazing things I found was that Dan continued to carry his link to 'Help Dave' with info and funds and then started to agree with the bad mouthing of Dave and the family.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:21:13 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"

am i the only female you know that is actually excited about seeing that? lol
that would be awsome, consider fridge packed :!:


Well, that's why you occupy that special place in my heart Spook!  ;)  Has the game w/Magic's sky hook against Boston...all the way through Shaq & Kobe making history together!  I'm getting excited just talking about it...:oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:22:54 AM
Third did you watch the draft tonight? i worked late and havent been over to espn.com yet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 02:22:57 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
hey Tylergal and carnut! i'm not ignoring ya'll {{hugs}}


I'm not talking to you Spooky because I'm jealous of the new TV Set.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:25:38 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
hey Tylergal and carnut! i'm not ignoring ya'll {{hugs}}


I'm not talking to you Spooky because I'm jealous of the new TV Set.


 :lol: you can stop by anytime to watch it with me


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:27:48 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Third did you watch the draft tonight? i worked late and havent been over to espn.com yet


Watched a little bit of it before I left work.  Saw Toronto drafted that Italian kid #1...and MJ got Morrison at #3.  Although I like his game, seeing him cry like a 5 year old girl after losing in the tournament turned me off a bit.  That, and the fact he injects himself with Insulin during basketball games...

My (oh, my bad...OUR) Lakers drafeted locally...picking Farmar at #26.  Good solid PG pickup...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:30:41 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...


Is the cat already out of the bag, Mrs. Red...  Seems the news going into the Holiday Weekend is that there is no truth in what this latest witness said...


Hello there Katz!  Didn't get the chance to say it earlier...;)  How are you doing?
:oops: I'm just catching up, Strike...  I didn't think anyone would be here this late ~ I hope I haven't missed you...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 02:30:49 AM
Well, Sports Fans, I hear a voice calling.  It's telling me my body is tired and I have work to do tomorrow.

I have a sofa that I have to do something about.  It is 5 years old, solid leather, evene back and sides are leather, and I bought it thinking it would last me the rest of my life for the great room.  It rarely is used, except when the kids come or when I have garden or rose meetings, and no one is rough on it.  I saw a strange look on it earlier tonight and picked up a cushion and it was totally split.  I might be embarrassed to tell you how gullible I was to buy it and have the middle cushion split wide open.  I treated it twice yearly with those expensive kits they sell you, yep $160 a year just to clean it and they guarantee it to last if you do.

Well, I am going to tell you tomorrow night what it cost and where I got it if they do not stand behind it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:32:05 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Third did you watch the draft tonight? i worked late and havent been over to espn.com yet


Watched a little bit of it before I left work.  Saw Toronto drafted that Italian kid #1...and MJ got Morrison at #3.  Although I like his game, seeing him cry like a 5 year old girl after losing in the tournament turned me off a bit.  That, and the fact he injects himself with Insulin during basketball games...

My (oh, my bad...OUR) Lakers drafeted locally...picking Farmar at #26.  Good solid PG pickup...


NOOOOOOOO i hated that kid cause he beat Bama!!!!!!! ugh! stomping feet... i'm sure he's good and all but dang that is just my luck that we would pick this guy!!!!!! arghhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:33:05 AM
Hi everyone ~ I'm finally on the same page!  Is anyone still here?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 02:34:43 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Hi everyone ~ I'm finally on the same page!  Is anyone still here?


Katz, it was good seeing you, Sweetie, and I am going to bed.  My shift for arguing with the sofa people will come early.  I hope you have a nice morning and day.  Hugs!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:35:57 AM
nite Tylergal


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 29, 2006, 02:36:10 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Hi everyone ~ I'm finally on the same page!  Is anyone still here?


Yeah, I'm still here, but also just about to check out.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:36:48 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Third did you watch the draft tonight? i worked late and havent been over to espn.com yet


Watched a little bit of it before I left work.  Saw Toronto drafted that Italian kid #1...and MJ got Morrison at #3.  Although I like his game, seeing him cry like a 5 year old girl after losing in the tournament turned me off a bit.  That, and the fact he injects himself with Insulin during basketball games...

My (oh, my bad...OUR) Lakers drafeted locally...picking Farmar at #26.  Good solid PG pickup...


NOOOOOOOO i hated that kid cause he beat Bama!!!!!!! ugh! stomping feet... i'm sure he's good and all but dang that is just my luck that we would pick this guy!!!!!! arghhhhhhhhhhh


Yup...well...you now got a guy who cries when things don't go his way!!  On top of that, who would want to watch a guy with an 70's style haircut and a porno mustache?  My condolences...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:37:38 AM
:oops: I don't follow any sports...  My mom and sister used to follow the pro bowling tour ~ my sister was a really good bowler ~ could have been a pro bowler ~ but didn't want to...  her friend Dawn really wanted to be, but couldn't ~ but wound up marrying one...

I dealt to Pete Webber the other night ~ he signed his "Players Card" for me to give to my mom ~ and then he autographed and gave me his PBA Tour card...

My mom's all excited...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:38:11 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Third did you watch the draft tonight? i worked late and havent been over to espn.com yet


Watched a little bit of it before I left work.  Saw Toronto drafted that Italian kid #1...and MJ got Morrison at #3.  Although I like his game, seeing him cry like a 5 year old girl after losing in the tournament turned me off a bit.  That, and the fact he injects himself with Insulin during basketball games...

My (oh, my bad...OUR) Lakers drafeted locally...picking Farmar at #26.  Good solid PG pickup...


NOOOOOOOO i hated that kid cause he beat Bama!!!!!!! ugh! stomping feet... i'm sure he's good and all but dang that is just my luck that we would pick this guy!!!!!! arghhhhhhhhhhh


Oh...my bad! I'm just now realizing you were talking about Justin Farmar!  Hey, it's late...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:38:37 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Hi everyone ~ I'm finally on the same page!  Is anyone still here?


Yeah, I'm still here, but also just about to check out.


{{{hugs}}}  Carnut ~ and good night!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:39:26 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
well who thinks something is up?  we are going into a holiday weekend...


Is the cat already out of the bag, Mrs. Red...  Seems the news going into the Holiday Weekend is that there is no truth in what this latest witness said...


Hello there Katz!  Didn't get the chance to say it earlier...;)  How are you doing?
:oops: I'm just catching up, Strike...  I didn't think anyone would be here this late ~ I hope I haven't missed you...


Nope, you haven't missed me!  And, I appreciate your acknowledgement!!  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:40:15 AM
Hey Strike...

Were you asking the other night if anyone wanted a Prince DVD...  or something like that....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:44:46 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Hey Strike...

Were you asking the other night if anyone wanted a Prince DVD...  or something like that....


Well, I was talking to a few people last night, and had asked if they had watched the BET awards (he performed) a few hours earlier.  They said they hadn't, and I offered to burn it onto DVD for them (if they wanted to watch).  Would you like a copy?  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:45:18 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Third did you watch the draft tonight? i worked late and havent been over to espn.com yet


Watched a little bit of it before I left work.  Saw Toronto drafted that Italian kid #1...and MJ got Morrison at #3.  Although I like his game, seeing him cry like a 5 year old girl after losing in the tournament turned me off a bit.  That, and the fact he injects himself with Insulin during basketball games...

My (oh, my bad...OUR) Lakers drafeted locally...picking Farmar at #26.  Good solid PG pickup...


NOOOOOOOO i hated that kid cause he beat Bama!!!!!!! ugh! stomping feet... i'm sure he's good and all but dang that is just my luck that we would pick this guy!!!!!! arghhhhhhhhhhh


Yup...well...you now got a guy who cries when things don't go his way!!  On top of that, who would want to watch a guy with an 70's style haircut and a porno mustache?  My condolences...;)


you didnt like the 'stash? oh come on i know YOU liked that 'stash :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:46:10 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"

Hello there Katz!  Didn't get the chance to say it earlier...;)  How are you doing?
:oops: I'm just catching up, Strike...  I didn't think anyone would be here this late ~ I hope I haven't missed you...


Nope, you haven't missed me!  And, I appreciate your acknowledgement!!  ;)


I don't know if you saw earlier that I answered you too ~ Strike ~ thank you ~ your head and heart are in the right place ~ I think you're a wonderful guy.  {{{hugs}}}


Title: Thank you
Post by: IBE on June 29, 2006, 02:46:41 AM
Anna

Thank you for remembering!

Was catching up on the past pages when you posted.

Thanks again all for the current times and the past memories. Funny how all of us together again for over a year!

God Bless all and have a very safe weekend!

IBE


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:47:05 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Hey Strike...

Were you asking the other night if anyone wanted a Prince DVD...  or something like that....


Well, I was talking to a few people last night, and had asked if they had watched the BET awards (he performed) a few hours earlier.  They said they hadn't, and I offered to burn it onto DVD for them (if they wanted to watch).  Would you like a copy?  ;)


Yes, I would, please ~ and thank you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 02:47:29 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
:oops: I don't follow any sports...  My mom and sister used to follow the pro bowling tour ~ my sister was a really good bowler ~ could have been a pro bowler ~ but didn't want to...  her friend Dawn really wanted to be, but couldn't ~ but wound up marrying one...

I dealt to Pete Webber the other night ~ he signed his "Players Card" for me to give to my mom ~ and then he autographed and gave me his PBA Tour card...

My mom's all excited...


hey Katz. sorry Third and I get o/t on sports sometimes. how are you doing? its good to see you


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:50:28 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
:oops: I don't follow any sports...  My mom and sister used to follow the pro bowling tour ~ my sister was a really good bowler ~ could have been a pro bowler ~ but didn't want to...  her friend Dawn really wanted to be, but couldn't ~ but wound up marrying one...

I dealt to Pete Webber the other night ~ he signed his "Players Card" for me to give to my mom ~ and then he autographed and gave me his PBA Tour card...

My mom's all excited...


hey Katz. sorry Third and I get o/t on sports sometimes. how are you doing? its good to see you


That's OK Spook ~ almost everyone can talk sports...  I just can't...  and I'm probably the only one on this board who knows who Pete Webber is...   :lol:  :oops:

I'm doing good ~ and how about you?  It's good seeing ya ~ Hi Anna and IBE and anyone else I missed...


Title: Funny thing
Post by: IBE on June 29, 2006, 02:52:23 AM
Just a had a funny think happen.

When I went back to and refresh the page to see my recent "sqaures" popped up where our avatars would be and it didn't have the "broken .giff" image there.

Tom... are you doing magical things?

I got so excited, I refreshed the page again and didn't pick up the squares showing unbroken giff images where are avatars would be.

Hope I am making sense.

Time for bed, anyway

Thanks all

IBE


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 02:57:17 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"

Hello there Katz!  Didn't get the chance to say it earlier...;)  How are you doing?
:oops: I'm just catching up, Strike...  I didn't think anyone would be here this late ~ I hope I haven't missed you...


Nope, you haven't missed me!  And, I appreciate your acknowledgement!!  ;)


I don't know if you saw earlier that I answered you too ~ Strike ~ thank you ~ your head and heart are in the right place ~ I think you're a wonderful guy.  {{{hugs}}}


Awww, that's very nice of you to say Katz...thanks!  Your words humble me...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 02:57:24 AM
We all look like little white question marks in tiny blue boxes to me still...  wouldn't mind so much, I don't think, if the boxes were purple...

Hey ~ I have a signature block question...  does everyone here see the bumper sticker sign and the Natalee picture on the same line?  They're two separate graphics...  that take up a lot of the allowed "300 characters" in the signature block...

If I could put them together into one picture ~ maybe leave out the TES flowers ~ I could make the "Pray for Natalee" words purple again...

Was just thinking...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 03:12:02 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Third did you watch the draft tonight? i worked late and havent been over to espn.com yet


Watched a little bit of it before I left work.  Saw Toronto drafted that Italian kid #1...and MJ got Morrison at #3.  Although I like his game, seeing him cry like a 5 year old girl after losing in the tournament turned me off a bit.  That, and the fact he injects himself with Insulin during basketball games...

My (oh, my bad...OUR) Lakers drafeted locally...picking Farmar at #26.  Good solid PG pickup...


NOOOOOOOO i hated that kid cause he beat Bama!!!!!!! ugh! stomping feet... i'm sure he's good and all but dang that is just my luck that we would pick this guy!!!!!! arghhhhhhhhhhh


Yup...well...you now got a guy who cries when things don't go his way!!  On top of that, who would want to watch a guy with an 70's style haircut and a porno mustache?  My condolences...;)


you didnt like the 'stash? oh come on i know YOU liked that 'stash :lol:


Yeah...love the 'stache...way back in '84!!  ;)

I think I'm going to call it a night.  Sweet dreams everyone...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 03:16:15 AM
nite Third


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 03:16:59 AM
Katz...do me a favor...send me an email w/your mailing address (again).  I want to make sure I have it so I can send you that disc...;)

See you all tomorrow.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 03:32:52 AM
Good night Strike ~ sweet dreams...  and OK ~ thank you so much ~ I will...

 :oops: I was just playing with graphics...  I think I'm going to combine thoes two pictures into one ~ and go back to purple words again...

But I'm yawning big time now ~ and first I have to get some sleep ...

Good night everyone ~ see ya in the morning.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 29, 2006, 03:36:49 AM
nite Katz


Title: Good Morning here also
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 29, 2006, 06:06:28 AM
Mornin everyone  !
  warm umid here in ohio <g>  but every AM I look in the obits in the paper and don't find my name  i consider that a great  day !!  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 07:36:50 AM
Good morning!  

Jerry, nice to run across another obit reader.  I don't know why but I've always read the obits.  

Back to catching up....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Terric7058 on June 29, 2006, 07:39:46 AM
Good Morning
 I am new to this board but I will say it is a much nicer board than many I have seen. There are a few out there that if you post anything that is against their way of thinking it is like being thrown to a pack of wolves.

I was sorry to hear that the witness in Aruba admitted he lied. But can't say I was surprised I think he was only after the reward.
                                                                         
Terri


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 07:47:53 AM
Quote from: "Terric7058"
Good Morning
 I am new to this board but I will say it is a much nicer board than many I have seen. There are a few out there that if you post anything that is against their way of thinking it is like being thrown to a pack of wolves.

I was sorry to hear that the witness in Aruba admitted he lied. But can't say I was surprised I think he was only after the reward.
                                                                         
Terri


Good morning, Terri!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 29, 2006, 07:48:13 AM
Good  Morning  Terri   :D   Glad that you are with us
and please  just remember that these folks  are NOT at all like the other board that we  met at.  these are kind and smart folks  and i am proud to be a SM  <g>  and think tat you will too , Lifes way too short to just bicker and fight all the time .
  Jerry from Ohio <g>>



Quote from: "Terric7058"
Good Morning
 I am new to this board but I will say it is a much nicer board than many I have seen. There are a few out there that if you post anything that is against their way of thinking it is like being thrown to a pack of wolves.

I was sorry to hear that the witness in Aruba admitted he lied. But can't say I was surprised I think he was only after the reward.
                                                                         
Terri


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 29, 2006, 07:51:45 AM
Good  AM Peaces  and Jacqueline

  Hope ya all are haveing a great  day so far  I am found  another clean pair of underwear so no laundry  for me today  ROFL <g>



Quote from: "Peaches"
Good morning!  

Jerry, nice to run across another obit reader.  I don't know why but I've always read the obits.  

Back to catching up....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 29, 2006, 07:58:26 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Crazy
My boss just started using Quickbooks and I have all kinds of questions.  I am really having a time figuring it all out.  So I want you to know that there could very well be a market for that kind of thing.   :wink:

Absolutely true!  I have QBs and had a heck of a time learning the correct way to use it.  The set-up is so important because if you make one mistake, it will effect everything.  I found, to try to learn it by reading the guide is almost impossible, so there must be many people like me who need a travelling bookkeeper/accountant/computer savvy person to set up the program, give a tutorial and maintain the books.  
Crazymom; If you decide to do that, you could advertise your services free on Craigslist.  That's how I found my current accountant after dumping my former accountant because he did not want to come to my location.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 08:02:59 AM
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Good  AM Peaces  and Jacqueline

  Hope ya all are haveing a great  day so far  I am found  another clean pair of underwear so no laundry  for me today  ROFL <g>



Quote from: "Peaches"
Good morning!  

Jerry, nice to run across another obit reader.  I don't know why but I've always read the obits.  

Back to catching up....


Hey Jerry!

I read the obits too.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 29, 2006, 08:03:32 AM
Quote from: "Terric7058"
Good Morning
 I am new to this board but I will say it is a much nicer board than many I have seen. There are a few out there that if you post anything that is against their way of thinking it is like being thrown to a pack of wolves.

I was sorry to hear that the witness in Aruba admitted he lied. But can't say I was surprised I think he was only after the reward.
                                                                         
Terri

Welcome Terric.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 08:09:41 AM
Good morning Jerry, Peaches, Terri and Leslie ~ and anyone else who just woke up.

Welcome to the board, Terri

{{{hugs}}}  and how's it going, Peaches


It's good to see you posting a bit more now, Jerry

And hey Leslie ~ I don't see you online very often ~ you must post early mornings, when I'm usually sleeping.

And hoping your dreams are good, Spooky...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 08:10:42 AM
Hi San ~ Hi Jacq ~ I'm really sorry to hear about Uncle Mike's case being delayed AGAIN....  ::sigh::


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 08:13:36 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Hi San ~ Hi Jacq ~ I'm really sorry to hear about Uncle Mike's case being delayed AGAIN....  ::sigh::


Thanks Katz.

It's a real drag this whole thing.

Hopefully we will get better news today.

They are suppose to once again, hold a hearing later today.

Hopes for the family are just put on hold right now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 08:17:05 AM
I guess this is one place Aruba can say it's better than...  huh, Jacquie...  ::frown::


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 08:21:21 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
I guess this is one place Aruba can say it's better than...  huh, Jacquie...  ::frown::


Yeah you're right.

+ he picked up malaria while he was in jail.....

Oi vey...... :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 08:27:11 AM
Oh man...  it's going to be good to get him home!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 29, 2006, 08:29:44 AM
Okies ~ I'm going to head back in for a little nap ~ I didn't sleep much last night...  I think I must be finally getting used to the hours I'm working ~ because I'm often up all night when I'm off now...

See ya later everyone!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 29, 2006, 08:44:19 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
.
Well CARNUT OR WRECK if you are still here, speaking of dragging people through the mud, do you remember when Dan Riehl wrote that awful FRONT PAGE article saying that Frank and I killed Natalee and we did it with our hate because we supported the boycott?  And kept asking scubajap those annoying questions?

That was sort of embarrassing.  He always bans you so you can't possibly defend yourself, too.  But I did survive and Hotshot will as well.   :D   It is funny to me now but at the time I was embarrassed which is what he wanted to do.


*** Just saw this!
I remember that along with Dan's other infamous stories. Somehow, I never got banned even though I really started calling him out. I think Dan was objective at first and really fell into the disinformation campaign of Julia Renfro and Scubajap. It was truly inexplicable for someone who aspired to be a "real" journalist.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 29, 2006, 08:51:31 AM
Hi Katz and GM to ya  and yup am getting more comfortable  now  after comeing  from the AOL N Board some of tose folks are just plain nuts over there and they have very little logic  all they seem to understand is fightening and calling names like kids .
  Jerry from Ohio





Quote from: "KatzHome"
Good morning Jerry, Peaches, Terri and Leslie ~ and anyone else who just woke up.

Welcome to the board, Terri

{{{hugs}}}  and how's it going, Peaches


It's good to see you posting a bit more now, Jerry

And hey Leslie ~ I don't see you online very often ~ you must post early mornings, when I'm usually sleeping.

And hoping your dreams are good, Spooky...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "Anna"
.
Well CARNUT OR WRECK if you are still here, speaking of dragging people through the mud, do you remember when Dan Riehl wrote that awful FRONT PAGE article saying that Frank and I killed Natalee and we did it with our hate because we supported the boycott?  And kept asking scubajap those annoying questions?

That was sort of embarrassing.  He always bans you so you can't possibly defend yourself, too.  But I did survive and Hotshot will as well.   :D   It is funny to me now but at the time I was embarrassed which is what he wanted to do.


*** Just saw this!
I remember that along with Dan's other infamous stories. Somehow, I never got banned even though I really started calling him out. I think Dan was objective at first and really fell into the disinformation campaign of Julia Renfro and Scubajap. It was truly inexplicable for someone who aspired to be a "real" journalist.


I remember that as well.  Dan's place is like a bowl of natural cereal:  what ain't fruits and nuts, is flakes.  (Archie Bunker-ism for you youngsters).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 08:55:02 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
OK... y'all I am going off topic to be on topic...

Kath you have our support.. it's all good.... :wink:


I was talking via email with someone about the video of BO.D... and why that is being played all of the time...

and this morning it occured to me that they are floating a trial ballon for filing of imperfect service or some other crap if the Judge rules in our favor......


I don't quite understand what you mean, Mrs. Red ~ please explain...


that tacky joe is having the shows put this thing of Bo D out there so he can file a Motion that the service was some how not done properly... get the case thrown out on a technicality??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 08:56:37 AM
Morning, Mrs, Peaches, and all ya'll!    :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 29, 2006, 09:02:39 AM
Good morning monkeyfaces! A big welcome to the new faces I am seeing!
Stick around and I am sure you will like it, just don't put your feet up on Mrs.Red's coffee table!

Jacq, sorry to hear about Uncle Mike.

Can't stick around long, just doing a quick catch up before I start my busy day, thankfully my big job I have been killing myself on is winding down.Should be done in another 4-6 weeks.... YAY!
I intend to take a little break before getting involved in another big project, as this one has really burned me out..... :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 29, 2006, 09:03:18 AM
Good morning all!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 29, 2006, 09:03:32 AM
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
Diario  June 29, 2006
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diahuebs/frontpage/index.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 09:04:39 AM
Quote from: "cubbeegirl"
Good morning monkeyfaces! A big welcome to the new faces I am seeing!
Stick around and I am sure you will like it, just don't put your feet up on Mrs.Red's coffee table!

Jacq, sorry to hear about Uncle Mike.

Can't stick around long, just doing a quick catch up before I start my busy day, thankfully my big job I have been killing myself on is winding down.Should be done in another 4-6 weeks.... YAY!
I intend to take a little break before getting involved in another big project, as this one has really burned me out..... :twisted:


Thanks Cubbee. Always nice to see ya in da cage!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 09:06:17 AM
Mrs. Red, I know that's what they're up to with the imperfect service idea but I have to believe Bo knows how to effect service so it will stand up in court.  

Perhaps you could do a recap re the cookbook (assuming you have some left) for those new in the Cage.  The Cookbook is certainly not to be missed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 29, 2006, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "Anna"
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Well CARNUT OR WRECK if you are still here, speaking of dragging people through the mud, do you remember when Dan Riehl wrote that awful FRONT PAGE article saying that Frank and I killed Natalee and we did it with our hate because we supported the boycott?  And kept asking scubajap those annoying questions?

That was sort of embarrassing.  He always bans you so you can't possibly defend yourself, too.  But I did survive and Hotshot will as well.   :D   It is funny to me now but at the time I was embarrassed which is what he wanted to do.


*** Just saw this!
I remember that along with Dan's other infamous stories. Somehow, I never got banned even though I really started calling him out. I think Dan was objective at first and really fell into the disinformation campaign of Julia Renfro and Scubajap. It was truly inexplicable for someone who aspired to be a "real" journalist.


I remember that as well.  Dan's place is like a bowl of natural cereal:  what ain't fruits and nuts, is flakes.  (Archie Bunker-ism for you youngsters).


In the beginning of the case, I used to read Dan as much as I read this sight...and then he just started getting pure EVIL!!! He would BASH!!! the family and then when someone would call him out on it...he would say not bashing the family but the MSM coverage...he REALLY started spewing out hatred!!!  I am sorry...but there were days reading his posts made me think he was bi-polar!! He went from one extreme to another!! NEVER!!! go to his sight anymore!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 29, 2006, 09:07:36 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Welcome Terri - I am sure you will just love it here!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 29, 2006, 09:08:29 AM
May I make a request? If anyone sees Easy today would you ask him to e-mail me the joke about the woman who goes to the gym for a week!! I loved that one!! Had seen it years ago...but worth e-mailing my girlfriends again...we are all dieting (blasted bathing suit season!!)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 29, 2006, 09:13:47 AM
ok...a little off topic...when I was watching the interview of Joran on Greta...I kept TRYING to remember what I had read about the pshchology of body movements. Looking up vs down with the eyes...there is a difference in whether lying or telling truth!! Could not remember.
Then last night I was watching Law and Order Criminal Intent...don't laugh...couldn't sleep!!  :lol:  And the detective was commenting on perps body language....he said...if a person leans to the right when they are speaking...they are using their imaginitive side, the side that lies vs..logical side...so if you lean to right...usually indicates deception...can anyone remember how Joran always had his head stretched WAY far to the right!! Just a little bit of psychology for your morning!! He is a case study in and of itself!!! :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 09:26:47 AM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
ok...a little off topic...when I was watching the interview of Joran on Greta...I kept TRYING to remember what I had read about the pshchology of body movements. Looking up vs down with the eyes...there is a difference in whether lying or telling truth!! Could not remember.
Then last night I was watching Law and Order Criminal Intent...don't laugh...couldn't sleep!!  :lol:  And the detective was commenting on perps body language....he said...if a person leans to the right when they are speaking...they are using their imaginitive side, the side that lies vs..logical side...so if you lean to right...usually indicates deception...can anyone remember how Joran always had his head stretched WAY far to the right!! Just a little bit of psychology for your morning!! He is a case study in and of itself!!! :shock:


Don't remember the leaning but I can read a bullshit artist who thinks he can charm his way out of anything.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 29, 2006, 09:28:46 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
ok...a little off topic...when I was watching the interview of Joran on Greta...I kept TRYING to remember what I had read about the pshchology of body movements. Looking up vs down with the eyes...there is a difference in whether lying or telling truth!! Could not remember.
Then last night I was watching Law and Order Criminal Intent...don't laugh...couldn't sleep!!  :lol:  And the detective was commenting on perps body language....he said...if a person leans to the right when they are speaking...they are using their imaginitive side, the side that lies vs..logical side...so if you lean to right...usually indicates deception...can anyone remember how Joran always had his head stretched WAY far to the right!! Just a little bit of psychology for your morning!! He is a case study in and of itself!!! :shock:


Don't remember the leaning but I can read a bullshit artist who thinks he can charm his way out of anything.


 :lol:  His whole body...kept leaning to the right...REALLY using his 'imagination"!!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 09:31:04 AM
"vengence is mine sayeth the Lord"


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 29, 2006, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
"vengence is mine sayeth the Lord"


AMEN!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 09:33:44 AM
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 09:36:44 AM
I wonder how KG, NG and RC feel about the latest news about the Columbian witness.  Will they do a follow-up, or just let it drop off the radar?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 09:41:16 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I wonder how KG, NG and RC feel about the latest news about the Columbian witness.  Will they do a follow-up, or just let it drop off the radar?


That is an interesting question.  I think as long as they have new or other news, MSM will avoid anything that looks like a dead end.  I think they think that one year of spinning is about all the tv watchers can take on any given subject.  As for myself, I think it is up to the internet bloggers to translate the Arubian news and keep us updated as to what happens to this witness and the case.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Poster earlier requested a reprint of your joke about the lady at the gym.
Would you be kind enough to re post it for them?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 09:43:49 AM
ldstlou



Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Location: St Louis
 Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject:    

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May I make a request? If anyone sees Easy today would you ask him to e-mail me the joke about the woman who goes to the gym for a week!! I loved that one!! Had seen it years ago...but worth e-mailing my girlfriends again...we are all dieting (blasted bathing suit season!!)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 09:43:58 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Poster earlier requested a reprint of your joke about the lady at the gym.
Would you be kind enough to re post it for them?


Yes please do...anything to motivate me to start going.  It's just so boring and the hunk I used to long for isn't there.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sue on June 29, 2006, 09:48:04 AM
Good morning monkey's
So if this witness lied, What about the supposed evidence???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 09:51:06 AM
Quote from: "Sue"
Good morning monkey's
So if this witness lied, What about the supposed evidence???


If he gave it to them, it is likely destroyed by now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 29, 2006, 09:51:33 AM
I was hoping to find TaylorGal on this morning because I had promise to give her a site of a friend that I go fishing with and that created a beautiful yard that I told her about..  Well he will be adding those pictures soon but did just get back from Celtic Fling and Highland Games in
Mount Hope, PA  last weekend and those are kinda of neat pictures.. He also has some pictures of the fair that we went this year that I mention.  He really takes beautiful nature shots so enjoy..

www.decastri.com


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Poster earlier requested a reprint of your joke about the lady at the gym.
Would you be kind enough to re post it for them?


Is that the one about three women that are in a gym locker room dressing up to play racquetball. When suddenly, a guy runs through the room wearing nothing but a bag over his head and passes the three women?

He passes the first woman, who looks down at his Johnson. "He's not my husband," she says.

He passes by the second woman, who also looks down at his wanker. "He's not my husband either," she says, also not recognizing the unit.

He passes by the third woman, who also looks down as he runs by her.
"Wait a minute," she says. "He's not even a member of this club."

Hmmmm, I better not post that one! lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 29, 2006, 09:53:54 AM
Quote from: "Sue"
Good morning monkey's
So if this witness lied, What about the supposed evidence???


I haven't had a chance to read back and heard that the witness "lied"  Does anyone know where the information of the "admission" came from?  I am just so skiddish as what I believe and from whom.  I don't believe ALE for one minute and if they are the ones saying he lied, well, I am very sceptical.  Not to say he couldn't have lied...  Grrrrrrr.

I wonder about the evidence as well.  Supposedly it had been sent off for testing - so was that made up?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 09:54:18 AM
I need to get busy. Hope everyone has a nice day!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 29, 2006, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
I need to get busy. Hope everyone has a nice day!


You too Mom - talk to you later! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "Sue"
Good morning monkey's
So if this witness lied, What about the supposed evidence???


I haven't had a chance to read back and heard that the witness "lied"  Does anyone know where the information of the "admission" came from?  I am just so skiddish as what I believe and from whom.  I don't believe ALE for one minute and if they are the ones saying he lied, well, I am very sceptical.  Not to say he couldn't have lied...  Grrrrrrr.

I wonder about the evidence as well.  Supposedly it had been sent off for testing - so was that made up?


It is hard to know anything when you remember all of the lies so far...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Mrs. Red, I know that's what they're up to with the imperfect service idea but I have to believe Bo knows how to effect service so it will stand up in court.  

Perhaps you could do a recap re the cookbook (assuming you have some left) for those new in the Cage.  The Cookbook is certainly not to be missed.


I have 3 left...  :oops:  but they can email me if interested!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 10:00:15 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Poster earlier requested a reprint of your joke about the lady at the gym.
Would you be kind enough to re post it for them?


Is that the one about three women that are in a gym locker room dressing up to play racquetball. When suddenly, a guy runs through the room wearing nothing but a bag over his head and passes the three women?

He passes the first woman, who looks down at his Johnson. "He's not my husband," she says.

He passes by the second woman, who also looks down at his wanker. "He's not my husband either," she says, also not recognizing the unit.

He passes by the third woman, who also looks down as he runs by her.
"Wait a minute," she says. "He's not even a member of this club."

Hmmmm, I better not post that one! lol


LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:00:44 AM
whew, I am all caught up.... MORNING MONKEYS!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Poster earlier requested a reprint of your joke about the lady at the gym.
Would you be kind enough to re post it for them?


Is that the one about three women that are in a gym locker room dressing up to play racquetball. When suddenly, a guy runs through the room wearing nothing but a bag over his head and passes the three women?

He passes the first woman, who looks down at his Johnson. "He's not my husband," she says.

He passes by the second woman, who also looks down at his wanker. "He's not my husband either," she says, also not recognizing the unit.

He passes by the third woman, who also looks down as he runs by her.
"Wait a minute," she says. "He's not even a member of this club."

Hmmmm, I better not post that one! lol


That is a good joke if you're a man.  Unfortunately women don't pay that much attention to penises nor do they frequent a gym for sex.  Wishful thinking and creative writing makes a good story even when it doesn't have much substance.
But at least it is funny!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 29, 2006, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "MominTN"
I need to get busy. Hope everyone has a nice day!


You too Mom - talk to you later! :D


If you get too bored, read my posts in the political forum.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 10:08:19 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Poster earlier requested a reprint of your joke about the lady at the gym.
Would you be kind enough to re post it for them?


Is that the one about three women that are in a gym locker room dressing up to play racquetball. When suddenly, a guy runs through the room wearing nothing but a bag over his head and passes the three women?

He passes the first woman, who looks down at his Johnson. "He's not my husband," she says.

He passes by the second woman, who also looks down at his wanker. "He's not my husband either," she says, also not recognizing the unit.

He passes by the third woman, who also looks down as he runs by her.
"Wait a minute," she says. "He's not even a member of this club."

Hmmmm, I better not post that one! lol


That is a good joke if you're a man.  Unfortunately women don't pay that much attention to penises nor do they frequent a gym for sex.  Wishful thinking and creative writing makes a good story even when it doesn't have much substance.
But at least it is funny!


 :shock:

If it made ya laugh, lets not pick it apart.

jeeze.................. :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: whytegirl on June 29, 2006, 10:09:44 AM
test...RED DO YOU SEE ME???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 29, 2006, 10:10:28 AM
Quote from: "Terric7058"
Good Morning
 I am new to this board but I will say it is a much nicer board than many I have seen. There are a few out there that if you post anything that is against their way of thinking it is like being thrown to a pack of wolves.

I was sorry to hear that the witness in Aruba admitted he lied. But can't say I was surprised I think he was only after the reward.
                                                                         
Terri


Hi Terri. Welcome, this is a much friendlier & safe place to discuss the NH case.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:11:52 AM
Quote from: "whytegirl"
test...RED DO YOU SEE ME???


I see you.... I think Red isn't on...but I don't know that for sure...

what's up??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:12:36 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "whytegirl"
test...RED DO YOU SEE ME???


I see you.... I think Red isn't on...but I don't know that for sure...

what's up??


OMG... I sound like YODA  :oops:

Peaches, are you still here??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 10:14:39 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
That is a good joke if you're a man.  Unfortunately women don't pay that much attention to penises nor do they frequent a gym for sex.  Wishful thinking and creative writing makes a good story even when it doesn't have much substance.
But at least it is funny!


A woman sent me that joke as well as this one.

O/T, but by request:

Dear Diary

For my fortieth birthday this year, my husband (the dear) purchased a week of personal training at the local gym for me. Although I am still in great shape since my track and field days some 25 years ago, I decided it would be a good idea to go ahead and give it a try. I called the gym and made my reservations with a personal trainer named Damon, who identified himself as a 26-year-old aerobics instructor and a model for athletic clothing and swim wear. My husband seemed pleased with my enthusiasm to get started! The gym encouraged me to keep a diary to chart my progress.

Monday:

Started my day at 6:00 am. Tough to get out of bed, but found it was well worth it when I arrived at the health club to find Damon waiting for me. He is something of a Greek god - with blond hair, seductive eyes and a dazzling white smile. Woo Hoo!! Damon gave me a tour and showed me the machines. He took my pulse after five minutes on the treadmill and was alarmed that it was so fast, but I attribute it to standing next to him in his gym top and bulging shorts. I enjoyed watching the skillful way in which he conducted his aerobics class after my workout today...very inspiring... Damon was encouraging as I did my sit-ups, although my gut was already aching from holding it in the whole time he was around. This is going to be a FANTASTIC week!!

Tuesday:

I drank a whole pot of coffee, but I finally made it out the door. Damon made me lie on my back and push a heavy iron bar into the air then he put weights on it! My legs were a little wobbly on the treadmill, but I made the full mile. Damon's rewarding smile made it all worthwhile. I feel GREAT!! It's a whole new life for me.

Wednesday:

The only way I can brush my teeth is by laying the toothbrush on the counter and moving my mouth back and forth over it. I believe I have a hernia in both pectorals. Driving was OK as long as I didn't try to steer or stop. I ran over the gym manager in the parking lot. Damon was impatient with me, insisting that my screams bothered other club members. His voice is a little too perky for this early in the morning and when he scolds, he gets this nasally whine that is VERY annoying. My chest hurt when I got on the treadmill, so he put me on the stair monster. Why the hell would anyone invent a machine to simulate an activity rendered obsolete by elevators? Damon told me it would help me get in shape and enjoy life. He said some other shit too.

Thursday:

Damon was waiting for me with his vampire-like teeth exposed as his thin, cruel lips were pulled back in a full snarl. I couldn't help being a half an hour late; it took me that long to tie my shoes. Damon took me to work out with dumbbells. When he was not looking, I ran and hid in the women's change room. He sent Cheryl to find me, then, as punishment, put me on the rowing machine - which I sank.

Friday:

I hate that bastard Damon more than any human being has ever hated any other human being in the history of the world. Stupid, masochistic gym-jock!! If there was a part of my body I could move without unbearable pain, I would beat him with it. He wanted me to work on my triceps. I don't have any triceps! And if you don't want dents in the floor, don't hand me the friggin’ barbells or anything else that weighs more than a sandwich. Which I am sure you learned in the sadist school you attended and graduated magna cum laude from.) The treadmill flung me off and I landed on the nutrition advisor.  Why couldn't it have been someone big and soft, like an ice-cream salesman or someone who would catch me, like a fireman?

Saturday:

Damon left a message on my answering machine in his grating, whining voice, wondering why I did not show up today. Just hearing it made me want to smash the machine with my rolling pin. However, I lacked the strength to even use the TV remote and ended up catching eleven straight hours of the Weather Channel.

Sunday:

I'm having the Church van pick me up for services today so I can go and THANK GOD that this week is over. I will also pray that next year my husband (the bastard) will choose a gift for me that is fun!! -like a root canal or a mammography...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: wreck on June 29, 2006, 10:20:28 AM
I'm still not ready to cave-in to the "witness lied" story again.
 I think we have had credible witnesses as well as credible evidence all along.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 29, 2006, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"


that tacky joe is having the shows put this thing of Bo D out there so he can file a Motion that the service was some how not done properly... get the case thrown out on a technicality??


Well, he mustn't feel confident that his side will win then.  What was imperfect about the service.  He was served on the plane as soon as in landed and taxied to the gate.  It was on US/NYC soil.  The first service should stand.  The 2nd service by Bo was for insurance.  How did Joran know it wasn't the service of a 2nd and new law suit?  Cocky kid through the papers the 2nd time on the ground showing contempt for US jurisprudence, IMO.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 29, 2006, 10:22:49 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Mrs. Red, I know that's what they're up to with the imperfect service idea but I have to believe Bo knows how to effect service so it will stand up in court.  

Perhaps you could do a recap re the cookbook (assuming you have some left) for those new in the Cage.  The Cookbook is certainly not to be missed.


Ooh, I want one.  Anyone interested in a 2nd cookbook since this is year 2?  

Do any of you Southern gals have a good recipe for TOMATO GRAVY?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 10:24:18 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "whytegirl"
test...RED DO YOU SEE ME???


I see you.... I think Red isn't on...but I don't know that for sure...

what's up??


OMG... I sound like YODA  :oops:

Peaches, are you still here??


Yes, dear, lurking and working.  More lurking than working.  And I've got a ton of stuff on my desk.  I'm hopelessly hooked here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Mrs. Red, I know that's what they're up to with the imperfect service idea but I have to believe Bo knows how to effect service so it will stand up in court.  

Perhaps you could do a recap re the cookbook (assuming you have some left) for those new in the Cage.  The Cookbook is certainly not to be missed.


Ooh, I want one.  Anyone interested in a 2nd cookbook since this is year 2?  

Do any of you Southern gals have a good recipe for TOMATO GRAVY?


There is one in the cook book..... email me!

and someone sent me a transcript of Rita's show... y'all want me to post it?? good discussion....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:26:12 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "whytegirl"
test...RED DO YOU SEE ME???


I see you.... I think Red isn't on...but I don't know that for sure...

what's up??


OMG... I sound like YODA  :oops:

Peaches, are you still here??


Yes, dear, lurking and working.  More lurking than working.  And I've got a ton of stuff on my desk.  I'm hopelessly hooked here.


right there with you... I was wondering if you would email me the microbotic diet info??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Mrs. Red, I know that's what they're up to with the imperfect service idea but I have to believe Bo knows how to effect service so it will stand up in court.  

Perhaps you could do a recap re the cookbook (assuming you have some left) for those new in the Cage.  The Cookbook is certainly not to be missed.


Ooh, I want one.  Anyone interested in a 2nd cookbook since this is year 2?  

Do any of you Southern gals have a good recipe for TOMATO GRAVY?


Hmmmmmm, I remember home made biscuits and tomato gravy.  Just had a flash back to a childhood memory....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 10:28:33 AM
I am thinking this tomato gravy is not something you put over your macaroni...... :oops:

Never heard of it.... :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:30:41 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
I am thinking this tomato gravy is not something you put over your macaroni...... :oops:

Never heard of it.... :oops:


Honey hush!!!  Read your cookbook!!!  LOL :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 29, 2006, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Mrs. Red, I know that's what they're up to with the imperfect service idea but I have to believe Bo knows how to effect service so it will stand up in court.  

Perhaps you could do a recap re the cookbook (assuming you have some left) for those new in the Cage.  The Cookbook is certainly not to be missed.


I have 3 left...  :oops:  but they can email me if interested!!


I want one.  You've got email.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:31:46 AM
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  We still haven‘t heard a final answer on whether this Colombian witness is really credible or not.  We still haven‘t heard from the judge.  So, it‘s difficult.  But there‘s still some things to come.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY:  And tonight, a secret in the Natalee Holloway case has been exposed.  There has been a new arrest, one that‘s very much been kept under wraps.  Aruban police have nabbed a Colombian national to find out what he may have seen the night the Alabama teen vanished.  And if you can believe it, he‘s been behind bars since last month.  

So, just who is this person and how did it all go down?  On the phone with us right now from Aruba is Julia Renfro with the “Aruba Today” newspaper.  Julia, who is this guy?

JULIA RENFRO, ARUBA TODAY (on phone):  Hi, Rita.  Well, the only thing we know at this point is his name is Carlos and he‘s from Columbia and he has pertinent information claiming to have witnessed a possible murder.  He‘s not very specific in that it was Natalee, but it was the night that Natalee disappeared.  He claims to have heard screaming, he claims to have heard somebody being dragged out in the ocean and being held under water.

COSBY:  And where exactly does he say that he heard the screaming and saw someone being dragged?  And did he describe somebody blond like Natalee?  And someone looking like Joran or the Kalpoe brothers?

RENFRO:  He claims to have seen a small young lady with a talk young man.  He was not able to clarify whether or not the type of vehicle.  You have to imagine up by the lighthouse, it‘s extremely dark.  And apparently, he had a fight or some kind of controversy with his wife and had driven up there to just relax and watch the ocean and watch the waves.  And he was woken up by screaming, as he says.  And he started peeking around the rocks and that‘s when he claims he saw.

COSBY:  And why did police decide to arrest him now a year later?  How did word get out of what this guy is claiming?

RENFRO:  Well, he came forward several months ago actually, already.  Excuse me.  He spoke to members of the media, who brought him to the authorities, basically pushing him to the direction that it‘s his responsibility to tell what he saw.

COSBY:  And Julia, are authorities taking him seriously?  Credible?  Or are they saying, wait a minute, this seems a little too wacky to believe.

RENFRO:  Well, you have to understand that the authorities are not speaking with anybody at this point.  The prosecutor‘s office is not speaking to the press or anybody else.  And they are basically just making a strong dedication and commitment to the case to solve it.

COSBY:  How long can they hold this guy?

RENFRO:  And they‘re not interested in you, they‘re not interested in me.

COSBY:  How long can they hold him, Julia?  What‘s the law, how long can they keep him?

RENFRO:  Well that‘s up to the judge.  And it works out to be 180 days.  I doubt that will happen.  What they‘re doing at this point, they are searching and they‘re investigating the points and details that this man has brought forward.  And if any of the details that he‘s brought forward are brought forward to be credible, of course, he will be continued to be detained.  And it‘s not because he‘s a suspect.  It‘s because unfortunately, he‘s an illegal alien.  He‘s living on the island of Aruba without permission.  And just like in the United States, which you guys very well know, you can‘t just go and live on somebody else‘s country.

COSBY:  Absolutely.  So, they are holding him on those grounds.  Julia, please keep us posted, thank you very much.  An interesting development.  And as Aruban police press this new witness for information and see where it goes, we‘re getting our first look at the actual moment suspect Joran Van Der Sloot was slapped with the Holloway family‘s civil lawsuit in quite dramatic fashion.  You may remember it all happened back in February during Joran‘s trip to New York.  This exchange caught on videotape was pretty heated.  Here it is.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, SUSPECTED IN NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE:  Don‘t touch me, please don‘t touch me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:  These are legal papers.

VAN DER SLOOT:  Don‘t touch me, please don‘t touch me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:  That‘s him.

VAN DER SLOOT:  Please don‘t touch me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:  Don‘t put your hands on me.  Don‘t you put your hands on me.  Well don‘t get in the way, these are legal papers.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY:  And the tape is being released as Natalee‘s family waits to find out whether the civil lawsuit has a future, will hold up in New York court.  

Private investigator Bo Dietl, who actually was the guy delivering the paperwork directly to Joran says this tape that he has is the key to the case.

BO DIETL, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR:  When the plant hit the ground, I had him served on the plane by himself.  There was really no witnesses.

COSBY:  But why serve him again?  Why does he need to be served again at the airport?  Some people say this was over the top?

DIETL:  Well my opinion on this one was this is a very important case.  It was just him and somebody else on the plane.  So, there was no other witnesses.  This way, we videotaped it and there wouldn‘t be any kind of a decision that he was not served properly or whatever.  And I felt as thought this is an important enough case that we should serve him again.  This way we have video evidence of him being served.

COSBY:  You know, you kept asking him a lot of questions.  

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DIETL:  Where did you bury her?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY:  Is that crossing the line, do you think?  Was that heavy handed?

DIETL:  Well, I‘m a father of two daughters.  And I‘m sick and tired of listening to the lies.  This guy changed his story about nine times.  He knows what happened there.  And there‘s no doubt in my mind.  And if I had that—that was the father out of me coming out of me.  And just the way he tried to avoid the service when the producer gave me a shove there.  

And then he had a coat over his head, he looked like Darth Vader.  He

was trying to hide himself.  He came over here to do an interview to try to

explain his noninvolvement with the disappearance of Natalee.  And I just -

my fatherly thing came out.  You know what?  Maybe it was a little over the top, but I was waiting to try to provoke him and try to get the anger that I know he has inside of him out.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DIETL:  And the next time you push me, I‘m going put your head right...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSBY:  Did you see any anger?  What kind of reaction and did he say anything to you?

DIETL:  Well he looked at me with these eyes, oh he wanted to, I thought he was going to react to me.  And I obviously wasn‘t going to go over the line with myself.  I asked him some questions.  Where did you hide the body?  Why don‘t you tell us where you put the body?

COSBY:  What did he say?  What did he do, Bo?

DIETL:  He just gave me some vicious looking eyes.  But you know what, I had no problem with that.

COSBY:  You know, you looked at this guy face to face.  Obviously a lot of people have suspected him of some pretty big stuff.  Do you believe he‘s capable of kidnapping and murder?

DIETL:  I believe that he‘s very capable of raping a girl, he‘s a very big man.  He‘s 6‘6.  He looks like a very strong man.  He‘s not a boy, he‘s a man, 6‘6, and I believe his oversize and his overpower, that he‘s done this before and very possibly he utilized these very prevalent date rape drugs that are all over the Caribbean.  And these kids and families that go there, they‘ve got to be aware.  And the Aruban authorities, they screwed up this investigation from the beginning.  And if they can‘t keep their investigations and their policing in line, we shouldn‘t go to Aruba.

COSBY:  Right now this guy‘s roaming free.  Is it possible, as we look at it Bo, that this guy is just being falsely accused and you and others are going over the top on it?

DIETL:  Well all I know is every week, every month, something new pops out, some erroneous lead, some erroneous new person.  Let‘s be honest with you.

The fact of the matter is, Joran Van Der Sloot was one of the last ones that was seen with Natalee Holloway.  He‘s put himself with her. He‘s made admissions of being with her on the beach.  He is the one that least seen her alive, so he certainly has a lot more information.  If he tells the truth and if we can find out the truth, we may be able to uncover where and how Natalee was lost.

COSBY:  You know, we see in the video, he‘s resisting accepting the papers.  How did you read that?

DIETL:  Well, when he‘s resisting the papers, the producer came up and gave me a shove.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VAN DER SLOOT:  Please don‘t touch me, please don‘t touch me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:  That‘s him.  

VAN DER SLOOT:  Please don‘t touch me, please don‘t touch me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE:  Don‘t put your hands on me.  Don‘t you put your hands on me, pal.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

DIETL:  And I say, I‘m doing a legal process here of court papers.  

You can‘t push me.

COSBY:  Yes, it got pretty heated with you and the producer.

DIETL:  Well the producer—I think he landed on his backside.

COSBY:  As a result of you?

DIETL:  Yes, he had very slippery shoes.  He should have been wearing sneakers.  He had some shoes that he slipped and he went down on his butt.  And then Van Der Sloot wouldn‘t take the papers and I just ended up stuffing them in his jacket.  

And I think that was a very good, proper service.  And then after that, I walked him out and I just tried to ask him a couple of questions.  You know we are also conducting the investigation for John Kelly, my firm.  So I do know a lot about the case.  I just thought it would be a nice, opportune moment to ask him a few questions, like where did you bury the body, Joran Van Der Sloot, whatever his name is.

COSBY:  Bo Dietl, thanks so much, Bo.

DIETL:  Rita, thank you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:33:04 AM
I don't think Rita's transcript was posted ... if it was...  :oops:  

I am wondering why all of the sudden this is being called into question.... reeks of tacky joe... IMO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 10:35:25 AM
Morning Monkeys!

I've been out of town a bit lately and away from Internet access -- so I have LOTS of reading to catch up on. It will take awhile.

I know we have 'legal' minds here -- so this is a question to them.

On Michelle's site there has benn an 'anonymous' poster that has commented many times on the Hague convention and that if we hear NOTHING that JQK has the right to start questioning jvds and pvds at the 60 day mark. I will post a few of the comments below -- but I have NO IDEA if there is any truth to the comments. Or if they are even the same poster.

Anyone??


"Anonymous said...
Looks like the Judge is playing the Hague Convention 60 days waiting period game by her legal advisement panel. On July 17, JQK has the right to call Joran and Paulus for deposition in NYC courtroom. We will see what happen. This Natalee Case is highly charged and political. If the Bush Administration do not side with Natalee, there will be a very serious consequence for the Mid Term election in NYC for the Republicans.
Thu Jun 15, 01:02:52 AM EDT "

"Anonymous said...
Looks like the NYSC Judge advisement panel acts on the Hague Convention War Crime 60 days rules protocols without have the initiation Judge to make a ruling on the civil case. That means on July 15, 60 days after the May 15 hearing, the plaintiff can call the Defendant Joran and his lawyer Joe T. to the stand for deposition. Joran will be escorted by the NATO Marine Military Police, and flying in from Holland to New York City. Joran is now under citizen surveilance and prevented from escaping to another country.
Thu Jun 01, 11:10:49 AM EDT "

"Anonymous said...
The New York City Supreme Court has the direct Hague Convention power granted from the United Nations solely for the New York City Supreme Court to subpoena Joran from Holland to appear in
court in the Month of July, 2006 after Joran completed his current school session. Joran domiciles in Holland and refuses to appear before the Judge at New York City Supreme Court under the adivisement of his attorney Joe Tarcopina. Joran lost his domcile protection after violating the Aruban Judge's restriction travel order by a Dutch court. The NYCSC judge can compel the testimony of
Joran who is unwilling to appear by the force of the NATO military police on the wartime signatory treaties formalised between Holland and the United States ratified in 1965 by Hague Civil Precedure Convention.
Sat May 20, 06:12:51 AM EDT"

"Anonymous said...
The New York City Supreme Court has the direct Hague Convention power granted from the United Nations solely for the New York City Supreme Court to subpoena Joran from Holland to appear in
court in the Month of July, 2006 after Joran completed his current school session. Joran domiciles in Holland and refuses to appear before the Judge at New York City Supreme Court under the adivisement of his attorney Joe Tarcopina. Joran lost his domcile protection after violating the Aruban Judge's restriction travel order by a Dutch court. The NYCSC judge can compel the testimony of
Joran who is unwilling to appear by the force of the NATO military police on the wartime signatory treaties formalised between Holland and the United States ratified in 1965 by Hague Civil Precedure Convention.
Sat May 20, 06:12:51 AM EDT "


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:38:07 AM
WOW lots to ponder... I don't know the answer to any of that... I will see if I can do some research later...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 10:38:32 AM
Quote from: "wreck"
I'm still not ready to cave-in to the "witness lied" story again.
 I think we have had credible witnesses as well as credible evidence all along.


Yup.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 29, 2006, 10:38:39 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Mrs. Red, I know that's what they're up to with the imperfect service idea but I have to believe Bo knows how to effect service so it will stand up in court.  

Perhaps you could do a recap re the cookbook (assuming you have some left) for those new in the Cage.  The Cookbook is certainly not to be missed.


Ooh, I want one.  Anyone interested in a 2nd cookbook since this is year 2?  

Do any of you Southern gals have a good recipe for TOMATO GRAVY?


Oh SunFreak!  I haven't thought of Tomato Gravy in so long.  My mom used to make it for us... it is the best.  I will try to give her a call and see if she can tell me her recipe... I am sure it wasn't written down - she keeps her good recipes in her head!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 10:42:32 AM
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
I am thinking this tomato gravy is not something you put over your macaroni...... :oops:

Never heard of it.... :oops:


Honey hush!!!  Read your cookbook!!!  LOL :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


I will....

And if it has tomata's in it i know I will luv it! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


Soggy.

My uncle lives in Rockville MD however and they are in trouble...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:46:10 AM
the last 3 cookbooks are gone....

thanks y'all!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
WOW lots to ponder... I don't know the answer to any of that... I will see if I can do some research later...


Thanks Mrs Red.

My only legal background is Business Law -- and that is only from college and the CPA exam :oops:

So the 'Hague Convention" is not anything I'm familiar with.

There is also a post that says something to the effect that NYC is the landlord of the UN -- and that's part of the 'jurisdiction' test.

I have saved many of these posts -- because if there is ANY truth to them -- it is very comforting. If there is ANY truth to them -- there is still a chance for Justice for Natalee.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


Soggy.

My uncle lives in Rockville MD however and they are in trouble...


I think I was watching the governor of PA last night and he was saying the film that was being shown was nothing compared to the damage in the northern part of the state.  Must be horrible!

I live in hurricane country and the flooding is always the worst of it and takes the most lives.

I feel for you guys up there!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 10:54:14 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


Soggy.

My uncle lives in Rockville MD however and they are in trouble...


I think I was watching the governor of PA last night and he was saying the film that was being shown was nothing compared to the damage in the northern part of the state.  Must be horrible!

I live in hurricane country and the flooding is always the worst of it and takes the most lives.

I feel for you guys up there!


Yes so destructive.

Like the itsy bitsy spider song....we need the sun to dry up all the rain.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 10:54:50 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


Easy -- I just came back (yesterday) from a trip to Baltimore from Miami (for a family funeral).

Weather is very frightening at the moment. I am staying in touch with my family from Philadelphia up to Connecticut for status.

I was thinking of OSpainter who says they are from Baltimore -- has anyone heard from this poster?

I am heading to the Boston area in 2 weeks for a family wedding -- I'm hoping this craziness has settled down by then.

And then there is ALWAYS the craziness of summer weather in South Florida.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:57:32 AM
Quote from: "sharon"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
WOW lots to ponder... I don't know the answer to any of that... I will see if I can do some research later...


Thanks Mrs Red.

My only legal background is Business Law -- and that is only from college and the CPA exam :oops:

So the 'Hague Convention" is not anything I'm familiar with.

There is also a post that says something to the effect that NYC is the landlord of the UN -- and that's part of the 'jurisdiction' test.

I have saved many of these posts -- because if there is ANY truth to them -- it is very comforting. If there is ANY truth to them -- there is still a chance for Justice for Natalee.


I have to admit it actually all sounds correct.... but it is certainly not anything the firm I work for has any dealing with.... I will see if I can ask one of our attys that would know...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: blah on June 29, 2006, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I don't think Rita's transcript was posted ... if it was...  :oops:  

I am wondering why all of the sudden this is being called into question.... reeks of tacky joe... IMO


when Joran was let out of jail and fled to the Netherlands, didnt the judge put some travel restrictions on him that he was only allowed to travel within the Dutch Kingdom?  Am I not remembering this correctly?

If this is the case, then what in the hell was he doing in the US in the first place?  New York is not part of the "Dutch Kingdom" (whatthehelleverthatis)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 10:58:13 AM
That Hague convention stuff sounds pretty intriguing.  I'd love to see that smug goon escorted into court by NATO police.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I don't think Rita's transcript was posted ... if it was...  :oops:  

I am wondering why all of the sudden this is being called into question.... reeks of tacky joe... IMO


when Joran was let out of jail and fled to the Netherlands, didnt the judge put some travel restrictions on him that he was only allowed to travel within the Dutch Kingdom?  Am I not remembering this correctly?

If this is the case, then what in the hell was he doing in the US in the first place?  New York is not part of the "Dutch Kingdom" (whatthehelleverthatis)


which actually makes Sharon's postings from Michelle's site sound like they are certainly correct!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
That Hague convention stuff sounds pretty intriguing.  I'd love to see that smug goon escorted into court by NATO police.


Me too....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
the last 3 cookbooks are gone....

thanks y'all!!


I have good ideas from time to time.  I knew you wouldn't have to plug the cookbook very hard to move them out......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
the last 3 cookbooks are gone....

thanks y'all!!


I have good ideas from time to time.  I knew you wouldn't have to plug the cookbook very hard to move them out......


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I don't think Rita's transcript was posted ... if it was...  :oops:  

I am wondering why all of the sudden this is being called into question.... reeks of tacky joe... IMO


when Joran was let out of jail and fled to the Netherlands, didnt the judge put some travel restrictions on him that he was only allowed to travel within the Dutch Kingdom?  Am I not remembering this correctly?

If this is the case, then what in the hell was he doing in the US in the first place?  New York is not part of the "Dutch Kingdom" (whatthehelleverthatis)


That's what I thought too.  Who knows?  The truth is pretty elusive down there.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I don't think Rita's transcript was posted ... if it was...  :oops:  

I am wondering why all of the sudden this is being called into question.... reeks of tacky joe... IMO


when Joran was let out of jail and fled to the Netherlands, didnt the judge put some travel restrictions on him that he was only allowed to travel within the Dutch Kingdom?  Am I not remembering this correctly?

If this is the case, then what in the hell was he doing in the US in the first place?  New York is not part of the "Dutch Kingdom" (whatthehelleverthatis)


Not to mention running off to the World Cup like he's something special.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
the last 3 cookbooks are gone....

thanks y'all!!


I have good ideas from time to time.  I knew you wouldn't have to plug the cookbook very hard to move them out......


My sister TOOK mine!  I have no cookbook.  Should have ordered more.

Well, if we do another one, can include some of the best from the first one maybe??  Or if I need a good recipe can ask in the lounge as somebody always has one.  Monkeys will always come through!

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 11:07:02 AM
.

Going to read Sharon's posts on The Hague Convention but I think part of the whole European Union thingy is that if you have access to one country, you have it to all and can move from one to another throughout the union.

Maybe that is how the Sporter is able to bandy about at will??

Not sure. . . . . .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 11:07:31 AM
This was another VERY interesting post about the subject from a comment at Michelle's site.

This arm of the NY bar that has been formed to express opinions ..... basically says that Taco Joe is out of luck if he thinks that 'forum non conveniens' applies.

Anonymous said...
The New York City Bar Association don't support the Forum Non Conveniens. Here is the link, http://www.abcny.org/Publications/reports/index.php?type=subject
Tue May 16, 08:10:39 AM EDT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 11:08:54 AM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I don't think Rita's transcript was posted ... if it was...  :oops:  

I am wondering why all of the sudden this is being called into question.... reeks of tacky joe... IMO


when Joran was let out of jail and fled to the Netherlands, didnt the judge put some travel restrictions on him that he was only allowed to travel within the Dutch Kingdom?  Am I not remembering this correctly?

If this is the case, then what in the hell was he doing in the US in the first place?  New York is not part of the "Dutch Kingdom" (whatthehelleverthatis)


Goodmorning All!


Yes, originally Joran had restrictions but within a day, the judge lifted those restrictions.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sb on June 29, 2006, 11:09:35 AM
Quote from: "sharon"

There is also a post that says something to the effect that NYC is the landlord of the UN -- and that's part of the 'jurisdiction' test.



If this is true, John Kelly is one SMART attorney.

He may have picked the ONLY forum in the entire world that could legitimately hear the case due to all the treaties, etc.  Joran CANNOT take refuge behind the Hague or the UN if that is the case, because NYC would have jurisdictional powers over them in a way. LOL!

And Joran was an idiot for walking into the trap.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 29, 2006, 11:10:17 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
I am thinking this tomato gravy is not something you put over your macaroni...... :oops:

Never heard of it.... :oops:


Me either Jackie!  We must be too far north.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 11:10:50 AM
Quote from: "sharon"
This was another VERY interesting post about the subject from a comment at Michelle's site.

This arm of the NY bar that has been formed to express opinions ..... basically says that Taco Joe is out of luck if he thinks that 'forum non conveniens' applies.

Anonymous said...
The New York City Bar Association don't support the Forum Non Conveniens. Here is the link, http://www.abcny.org/Publications/reports/index.php?type=subject
Tue May 16, 08:10:39 AM EDT


You are SO making my day!  Hope I have time to go read all this good stuff!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 11:11:01 AM
Mrs. Red - check your email please


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 29, 2006, 11:11:52 AM
Quote from: "sharon"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


Easy -- I just came back (yesterday) from a trip to Baltimore from Miami (for a family funeral).

Weather is very frightening at the moment. I am staying in touch with my family from Philadelphia up to Connecticut for status.

I was thinking of OSpainter who says they are from Baltimore -- has anyone heard from this poster?

I am heading to the Boston area in 2 weeks for a family wedding -- I'm hoping this craziness has settled down by then.

And then there is ALWAYS the craziness of summer weather in South Florida.


You can say that again neighbor! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 29, 2006, 11:16:22 AM
Saw the footage of flooding on GMA - what a mess - Be careful and safe all NE Monkeys.

Hope the weather improves and you dry up that mess this weekend.

Not to mention get a chance to enjoy summer a bit! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 11:16:45 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
the last 3 cookbooks are gone....

thanks y'all!!


I have good ideas from time to time.  I knew you wouldn't have to plug the cookbook very hard to move them out......


My sister TOOK mine!  I have no cookbook.  Should have ordered more.

Well, if we do another one, can include some of the best from the first one maybe??  Or if I need a good recipe can ask in the lounge as somebody always has one.  Monkeys will always come through!

 8)


Should I make a few more??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sb on June 29, 2006, 11:18:07 AM
Talk about flooding... I drove through New Orleans on my way to Houston and the downtown area looks like it is almost back to normal, except that you DO see a lot of construction trucks, contractors, etc. Out in the suburban areas though, there are STILL these trailers set up in many people's driveways that they are having to live in because of flood damage.

The consistent thing I heard from people was that "they" (whoever "they" are, insurance companies, FEMA, whatever) were concentrating on getting the downtown and business sector (including tourism... where have we heard THAT before?  :wink: ) back up to speed... at the expense of fixing people's homes. More than one person said that to me. Any they were NOT happy about it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 11:18:40 AM
Just a few more posts that I've saved about the Hague convention stuff.

Not trying to clutter the site -- but if this helps anyone research this topic, I want to provide the assist.

Peaches -- I have been wanting this to be true since I first found the posts. There is a part of me that says 'this is too simple'. And why have we not heard anything about it anywhere??

But, like many of us, I will continue to hold out hope for justice for Natalee. And I think JQK is much more experienced with civil proceedings than Tapioca.

I tried reading the 'Hague convention' stuff. Embarrassed to admit that I didn't really understand much of it -- or if it would apply in this instance (or if it was just wishful thinking).

Anonymous said...
It is very clear stated in Hague Convention that the New York City Supreme Court has the absolute subpoena power over all the civil cases related to all FNC over the world because New York City is the landlord of the United Nations' residence based on the Roman Stature. New York City is the only unique place in the world has that power, not even the White House in DC has that power. Please study the Hague Convention by-rules very carefully. United Nations is a Forum Non Conveniens to the Greater City of New York, so the Charter of United Nations pays tribute of civil jurisdiction to the Landlord who is the New York State Supreme Court. It is written in stone upon the Charter of United Nations.
Thu May 18, 10:59:51 PM EDT

Anonymous said...
It is a long haul. However, the Hague Convention allows the plaintiff to call witness while the advisement is in due process. The discoveries can be done in 3 to 4 weeks. But the monetary award by the Judge might take years for the decision depending the date of submital of the affidavit by the advisement panel.
Thu May 18, 02:42:14 AM EDT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 29, 2006, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


No floods in Central/Coastal Maine so far with all this. Rain comes and goes, but mostly just wayyyy tooooo humid! I can take the heat and the sun, but this humidity sucks. I have naturally curly hair and I look like a poodle, lmao.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


No floods in Central/Coastal Maine so far with all this. Rain comes and goes, but mostly just wayyyy tooooo humid! I can take the heat and the sun, but this humidity sucks. I have naturally curly hair and I look like a poodle, lmao.


I get a Japanese Hair Straightner treatment every year.

Good bye curls! LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


No floods in Central/Coastal Maine so far with all this. Rain comes and goes, but mostly just wayyyy tooooo humid! I can take the heat and the sun, but this humidity sucks. I have naturally curly hair and I look like a poodle, lmao.


Miniature?  Toy?  Or Standard?  

JK


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 29, 2006, 11:25:10 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
the last 3 cookbooks are gone....

thanks y'all!!


I have good ideas from time to time.  I knew you wouldn't have to plug the cookbook very hard to move them out......


My sister TOOK mine!  I have no cookbook.  Should have ordered more.

Well, if we do another one, can include some of the best from the first one maybe??  Or if I need a good recipe can ask in the lounge as somebody always has one.  Monkeys will always come through!

 8)


Mrs....would love to order another.....and Good Morning friends.... :)

Should I make a few more??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 29, 2006, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
the last 3 cookbooks are gone....

thanks y'all!!


I have good ideas from time to time.  I knew you wouldn't have to plug the cookbook very hard to move them out......


My sister TOOK mine!  I have no cookbook.  Should have ordered more.

Well, if we do another one, can include some of the best from the first one maybe??  Or if I need a good recipe can ask in the lounge as somebody always has one.  Monkeys will always come through!

 8)


Should I make a few more??


Please do - I will pre order 2!

I am so sorry that I missed out!

Procrastinating Mermaid that I am!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


No floods in Central/Coastal Maine so far with all this. Rain comes and goes, but mostly just wayyyy tooooo humid! I can take the heat and the sun, but this humidity sucks. I have naturally curly hair and I look like a poodle, lmao.


I get a Japanese Hair Straightner treatment every year.

Good bye curls! LOL


Doesnt' that cost an arm and a leg?  My daughter has wavy/curly hair and HATES it.  She wants me to take her to get it straightened.  And of course pay for it too.  How long does it last?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 29, 2006, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


No floods in Central/Coastal Maine so far with all this. Rain comes and goes, but mostly just wayyyy tooooo humid! I can take the heat and the sun, but this humidity sucks. I have naturally curly hair and I look like a poodle, lmao.


Miniature?  Toy?  Or Standard?  

JK


Standard........because I am not as small as I used to be :))


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Mere on June 29, 2006, 11:27:04 AM
Mrs...sorry that I got myself into your post..... :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 11:28:01 AM
Any of our Pap translators around this morning?  I would like to read the Diario article about this lying witness that has been getting three squares a day from Aruba for the past two months!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: tcumom on June 29, 2006, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
the last 3 cookbooks are gone....

thanks y'all!!


I have good ideas from time to time.  I knew you wouldn't have to plug the cookbook very hard to move them out......


My sister TOOK mine!  I have no cookbook.  Should have ordered more.

Well, if we do another one, can include some of the best from the first one maybe??  Or if I need a good recipe can ask in the lounge as somebody always has one.  Monkeys will always come through!

 8)


Should I make a few more??

Please ~ Please ~ Please  :D  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 11:28:42 AM
OK -- I lied. One more post about the Hague convention because it sites some info that may help the legal minds research.

Also -- count me in for at least 1 of the cookbooks. Jacqui's posts make my mouth water. I need to see some of these recipes :D


"Anonymous said...
Rule 23. 60-Day Rule. If 60 days have elapsed after a motion has been finally submitted or oral argument held, whichever was later, and no decision has been issued by the court, counsel for the movant shall send the court a letter alerting it to this fact with copies to all parties to the motion. While the advisement is in motion and past 60 days without returning an affidavit to the Judge, the Judge will not discourage the plaintiff from calling the defendants to the stand, if the defense have no shows, the defendants will have lost the civil case under the provisions of the Hague Convension. A default judgement follows.
Thu May 18, 05:37:19 PM EDT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 11:30:12 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


No floods in Central/Coastal Maine so far with all this. Rain comes and goes, but mostly just wayyyy tooooo humid! I can take the heat and the sun, but this humidity sucks. I have naturally curly hair and I look like a poodle, lmao.


I get a Japanese Hair Straightner treatment every year.

Good bye curls! LOL


Doesnt' that cost an arm and a leg?  My daughter has wavy/curly hair and HATES it.  She wants me to take her to get it straightened.  And of course pay for it too.  How long does it last?


Depending on how long and how wavy or tightly curled her hair is, will determine the price. Yes it is not cheap.  I have medium length hair, curly wavy but fine, not thick.  It costs me 350 bucks but it lasts a good 6 months, and even after that the curls don't come back full strength until about a year.  I get it done every May and to me  it is worth every penny!
 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 11:30:59 AM
(Sorry -- I meant my neigbor, the FlyingMermaid, posts about cooking, make my mouth water)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 11:31:47 AM
I have curly, curly hair which I used to hate... now I love that it's wash & wear!!! and I found a really good hairdresser with hair like mine that knows how to cut it....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 29, 2006, 11:31:56 AM
Hi All-

Just back from radiation and only one more to go !!!!  :D

Peaches, will enjoy writing you back my friend, and soon!  :D

FYI to all, I had heard for months now JKelly was not terribly concerned regarding the ALE's propensity to solve this, only based upon their lack of performance to date - but also on the reality that having a 'cold case' declared would clear the path for other resolutions to take shape and commence.

So Sharon thank you for those posts, if you leverage those posts against Kelly's supposed strategy, suddenly it makes a LOT of sense, doesn't it?

I so hope this is true, it will make my year if indeed it is !!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sb on June 29, 2006, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: "sharon"
OK -- I lied. One more post about the Hague convention because it sites some info that may help the legal minds research.

"Anonymous said...
Rule 23. 60-Day Rule. If 60 days have elapsed after a motion has been finally submitted or oral argument held, whichever was later, and no decision has been issued by the court, counsel for the movant shall send the court a letter alerting it to this fact with copies to all parties to the motion. While the advisement is in motion and past 60 days without returning an affidavit to the Judge, the Judge will not discourage the plaintiff from calling the defendants to the stand, if the defense have no shows, the defendants will have lost the civil case under the provisions of the Hague Convension. A default judgement follows.
Thu May 18, 05:37:19 PM EDT


Maybe "anonymous" is Judge Barbara Kapnick.  :wink:

Oh, to dream, perchance to dream...!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 29, 2006, 11:34:17 AM
sb-

good to see you back!

what's the rest of that line from that sonnet though....."aye there's the rub" ?  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 11:35:27 AM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 29, 2006, 11:36:40 AM
sharon-

Could I ask a favor please? Could you email me via my profile with those anonymous posts? I'd like to forward them to someone, if you don't mind?

I have to run fix lunch now, hope everyone has a good day.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sue on June 29, 2006, 11:37:09 AM
How do Hague rules apply to this case???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 11:37:46 AM
I've been afraid to post them for fear of the 'other side' reading them. But they are comments on Michelle's site, so I guess anyone could have already read them. They are public.

Now, I just want to know if there is any truth to them.

I guess we will know one way or the other at the end of '60 days'.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sb on June 29, 2006, 11:37:51 AM
Hi none!

I was on here several times but had VERY limited time to read or post, and a poor Internet connection where I was staying too. But, the board's little mini-crash also cut out a couple of days, so I am now caught up. Hope your husband is feeling better today.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 29, 2006, 11:39:18 AM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
How are all our friends in the northeast doing?  I was watching the news coverage of the flooding and it looks devastating and some rivers would not crest until today.

Is everyone accounted for and doing okay?


No floods in Central/Coastal Maine so far with all this. Rain comes and goes, but mostly just wayyyy tooooo humid! I can take the heat and the sun, but this humidity sucks. I have naturally curly hair and I look like a poodle, lmao.


Me Too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
sharon-

Could I ask a favor please? Could you email me via my profile with those anonymous posts? I'd like to forward them to someone, if you don't mind?

I have to run fix lunch now, hope everyone has a good day.


I don't see an email in your profile nonesuche. But that can be me :oops:

I will gladly provide the ones I've saved. Please advise.

(btw -- I've been meaning to share with you that I am a 'PMP' as well :D )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 11:41:25 AM
.
My kid's phone service in Fairfax VA seems to be not working or else his cell phone isn't as all I get is a busy signal last two days.  Hope he and new daughter in law are OK but wonder if they have water damage or something since they have dropped off my radar for some reason.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 29, 2006, 11:41:44 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I have curly, curly hair which I used to hate... now I love that it's wash & wear!!! and I found a really good hairdresser with hair like mine that knows how to cut it....


I agree Mrs.  I have the ringlets... used to hate my curls - but now I love them.  I also found a good hairdresser(not all know how to best cut and style) and use the right hair products.  It takes me about 5 minutes in the a.m. to fix my hair and it is good for the rest of the day!  I wouldn't have it any other way.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 29, 2006, 11:42:50 AM
FlyingMermaid,

The renfest you missed this year, my friend has pictures he took of the fair if your interested..  I think you will recognized lots of the performers from his site..  www.decastri.com ..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 11:43:13 AM
Quote from: "sb"
[
Maybe "anonymous" is Judge Barbara Kapnick.  :wink:

Oh, to dream, perchance to dream...!



 :D  :D  :D

That would be wonderful!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 11:44:41 AM
Hey Mermaid... can you confirm you received the email I sent...

it's from someone asking me to forward it to you...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 11:45:36 AM
Quote from: "sharon"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
sharon-

Could I ask a favor please? Could you email me via my profile with those anonymous posts? I'd like to forward them to someone, if you don't mind?

I have to run fix lunch now, hope everyone has a good day.


I don't see an email in your profile nonesuche. But that can be me :oops:

I will gladly provide the ones I've saved. Please advise.

(btw -- I've been meaning to share with you that I am a 'PMP' as well :D )


What is a PMP??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 11:47:46 AM
A professional certification.

"Project Management Professional".

I know -- silly initials. My husband likes to tease me about them :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: whytegirl on June 29, 2006, 11:48:10 AM
NOTE TO RED....

PLEASE WRITE A RED HOT JALAPENO STYLE SOUTHWEST SPICY TEXAN EDITORIAL ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH'S PRESS CONFERENCE GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH JAPAN'S PRIME MINISTER.

HE BOASTED HOW HE MET THIS WOMAN WHO'S DAUGHTER WAS ABDUCTED BY NORTH KOREA AND HOW SADDENED HE WAS AND HE WAS ALMOST BROUGHT TO TEARS, HE THOUGHT ABOUT HIS OWN DAUGHTERS AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO EITHER OF THEM IF THEY GOT KIDNAPPED.

I KID YOU NOT.  GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

WHYTEGIRL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 29, 2006, 11:48:36 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Hey Mermaid... can you confirm you received the email I sent...

it's from someone asking me to forward it to you...


Hi Terry!

Sure Mrs Red will check now!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I have curly, curly hair which I used to hate... now I love that it's wash & wear!!! and I found a really good hairdresser with hair like mine that knows how to cut it....


I agree Mrs.  I have the ringlets... used to hate my curls - but now I love them.  I also found a good hairdresser(not all know how to best cut and style) and use the right hair products.  It takes me about 5 minutes in the a.m. to fix my hair and it is good for the rest of the day!  I wouldn't have it any other way.


During the y ears Of FLASHDANCE...i embraced my curls too.

But secretly I have always wanted to have hair as straight as marcia brady...... :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 29, 2006, 11:49:34 AM
Quote from: "sharon"
A professional certification.

"Project Management Professional".

I know -- silly initials. My husband likes to tease me about them :D


Sharon-

I just corrected my profile, you should be able to access my email link now and thank you so much in advance.

Hey, we worked hard and took a biggie test to get that PMI certification, but I expect Mrs Red thought it might be another abbreviation for pimping so perhaps she was worried about us?  :lol:

I think it's pretty funny Mrs Red  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 11:51:17 AM
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O/T

If we go to the ads and just look, the site gets a tiny bit of $ and if we buy comething a tiny bit more.  BUT--it adds up.  When I can and when the price is competitive, I can place an order for dog food through Amazon and a pretty good sized one.

If we all bought our stuff that we can and that is priced right through Amazon that has just about everything now, we might be able to afford archives restored without chipping in too much cash.  

If you don't have an Amazon account, they are just mooooore than happy to help you getting all set up, will make page of your preferences for you without your doing anything and all sorts of things like keep record of what you buy for later re-order, etc. and just go below to the little icon and press to make account.  From there, it is just too easy as even have one-click buying.  I could get carried away not having to type anything, just point and press on the mouse.

Just wanted to remind everybody of that and let new people know the advantage of having ads in the first place.  Buy something, monkeys, through Amazon and it will help pay the bills around here.   :D

And, NO, no one tells me to say this, either.  I just have had to learn all about paying bills in the last couple of years myself and am very aware of it.   :wink:


.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 11:53:40 AM
Excellent point, Anna.

Amazon is great.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Quote from: "sharon"
A professional certification.

"Project Management Professional".

I know -- silly initials. My husband likes to tease me about them :D


Sharon-

I just corrected my profile, you should be able to access my email link now and thank you so much in advance.

Hey, we worked hard and took a biggie test to get that PMI certification, but I expect Mrs Red thought it might be another abbreviation for pimping so perhaps she was worried about us?  :lol:

I think it's pretty funny Mrs Red  :lol:


No way would i think Pimping... phuleze.... :lol:  :lol:  I was just curious.... LOL... like you know being a CLA...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: whytegirl on June 29, 2006, 11:55:06 AM
Red/Tom/Klaas got mail.  Read my previous post.  This is important!!!!  How can Bush sympathize with a girl from another country (or pretend to), WHEN WE GOT A GIRL HERE WHO'S BEEN MISSING FOR A YEAR?

He noted the importance of kidnapping by foreign countries...WELL WHAT IS ARUBA?  A FOREIGN ISLAND!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 29, 2006, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I have curly, curly hair which I used to hate... now I love that it's wash & wear!!! and I found a really good hairdresser with hair like mine that knows how to cut it....


I agree Mrs.  I have the ringlets... used to hate my curls - but now I love them.  I also found a good hairdresser(not all know how to best cut and style) and use the right hair products.  It takes me about 5 minutes in the a.m. to fix my hair and it is good for the rest of the day!  I wouldn't have it any other way.


During the y ears Of FLASHDANCE...i embraced my curls too.

But secretly I have always wanted to have hair as straight as marcia brady...... :roll:


Its A Story Of A Lovely Lady ........

That Was Raising Three Girls Of Her Own ..........

All Of Them Had Hair Like Their Mother... The Youngest One In Curls ...

 :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 11:55:47 AM
Quote from: "whytegirl"
Red/Tom/Klaas got mail.  Read my previous post.  This is important!!!!  How can Bush sympathize with a girl from another country (or pretend to), WHEN WE GOT A GIRL HERE WHO'S BEEN MISSING FOR A YEAR?

He noted the importance of kidnapping by foreign countries...WELL WHAT IS ARUBA?  A FOREIGN ISLAND!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


Whyte, I will make sure he reads when I head home for lunch...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I have curly, curly hair which I used to hate... now I love that it's wash & wear!!! and I found a really good hairdresser with hair like mine that knows how to cut it....


I agree Mrs.  I have the ringlets... used to hate my curls - but now I love them.  I also found a good hairdresser(not all know how to best cut and style) and use the right hair products.  It takes me about 5 minutes in the a.m. to fix my hair and it is good for the rest of the day!  I wouldn't have it any other way.


During the y ears Of FLASHDANCE...i embraced my curls too.

But secretly I have always wanted to have hair as straight as marcia brady...... :roll:


Its A Story Of A Lovely Lady ........

That Was Raising Three Girls Of Her Own ..........

All Of Them Had Hair Like Their Mother... The Youngest One In Curls ...

 :roll:


OK I admit that for special occassions, I dress up by straightening my hair... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  but for everyday... no can do...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 11:56:59 AM
Quote from: "Sue"
How do Hague rules apply to this case???



Sue, All the countries that signed the Treaty at the Convention at the Hague can invoke the use of them if needed is my understanding.  This
is the sort of international case they were set up for dealing with and to give some way possible to have cases that cross international borders as criminals could always just cross over into the next country and be untouchable everywhere.

Better legal minds of board than mine, however, and would think others know more and better about it all.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: "whytegirl"
Red/Tom/Klaas got mail.  Read my previous post.  This is important!!!!  How can Bush sympathize with a girl from another country (or pretend to), WHEN WE GOT A GIRL HERE WHO'S BEEN MISSING FOR A YEAR?

He noted the importance of kidnapping by foreign countries...WELL WHAT IS ARUBA?  A FOREIGN ISLAND!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


I copied your post and IM'd it to Red too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 29, 2006, 11:57:37 AM
Well since I am a fluffa sistah I might as well add pimpah to it too  :lol:

Just have to laugh somedays, I need it.

Take care all, black bean soup is warm now and I need to feed him.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: whytegirl on June 29, 2006, 11:57:39 AM
Whew!  Thanks....Tell 'im to watch the whole thing...he will spin faster in that chair than a DJ playing a CD mix.

OOOOHHH he will get sooooo maddd!!! :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: "whytegirl"
Red/Tom/Klaas got mail.  Read my previous post.  This is important!!!!  How can Bush sympathize with a girl from another country (or pretend to), WHEN WE GOT A GIRL HERE WHO'S BEEN MISSING FOR A YEAR?

He noted the importance of kidnapping by foreign countries...WELL WHAT IS ARUBA?  A FOREIGN ISLAND!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


Because he wants to appease the Koreans.

They are more of a threat to us than Aruba.

It's all political....

Sad, but true.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "whytegirl"
Red/Tom/Klaas got mail.  Read my previous post.  This is important!!!!  How can Bush sympathize with a girl from another country (or pretend to), WHEN WE GOT A GIRL HERE WHO'S BEEN MISSING FOR A YEAR?

He noted the importance of kidnapping by foreign countries...WELL WHAT IS ARUBA?  A FOREIGN ISLAND!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


Whyte, I will make sure he reads when I head home for lunch...



But it was NOT the Aruban government that kidnapped Natalee.  It was three punks who happen to live there.

 :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 11:58:47 AM
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I have curly, curly hair which I used to hate... now I love that it's wash & wear!!! and I found a really good hairdresser with hair like mine that knows how to cut it....


I agree Mrs.  I have the ringlets... used to hate my curls - but now I love them.  I also found a good hairdresser(not all know how to best cut and style) and use the right hair products.  It takes me about 5 minutes in the a.m. to fix my hair and it is good for the rest of the day!  I wouldn't have it any other way.


During the y ears Of FLASHDANCE...i embraced my curls too.

But secretly I have always wanted to have hair as straight as marcia brady...... :roll:


Its A Story Of A Lovely Lady ........

That Was Raising Three Girls Of Her Own ..........

All Of Them Had Hair Like Their Mother... The Youngest One In Curls ...

 :roll:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 29, 2006, 11:59:56 AM
I Have a Black Belt (and a Green T-shirt.).. I don't have any certificates, so I thought I would throw that out there..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: whytegirl on June 29, 2006, 12:00:19 PM
Darn Karate guy!

I looked at it from Beth's perspective.  That's why it ticked me off.  I had to go downstairs to stop watching.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Well since I am a fluffa sistah I might as well add pimpah to it too  :lol:

Just have to laugh somedays, I need it.

Take care all, black bean soup is warm now and I need to feed him.


In absolutely no way did I think that!!!!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"

Sharon-

I just corrected my profile, you should be able to access my email link now and thank you so much in advance.

Hey, we worked hard and took a biggie test to get that PMI certification, but I expect Mrs Red thought it might be another abbreviation for pimping so perhaps she was worried about us?  :lol:

I think it's pretty funny Mrs Red  :lol:


nonesuche -- check your mail :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:03:37 PM
Translation of today's Diario article regarding the new witness lying.  I got this translation from the Refugee site and cannot vouch for it's quality, but it's probably fairly accurate:


Not to long ago there were rumors of a latin man who came forward, and said he had important information on the Natalee Holloway case. These were things that he saw on that night.

Through searches this information came to the atention of Diario, and finally the person himself came to the paper to give his story.

In the beginning it was very hard for him to tell his story because he did not want to cooperate.

In the beginning he was asking for a lot of money for his info, he thought that here at diario whe have a cash cow, that just produces money.

We explained to him that here at diario we are just helping with the case, to solve it, and the money issues he would have to take up with the people that are offering the rewards.

After he gave diario his testimony, we gave everything to the ALE, and they took it up with him.

And now after many hours of police work and investigations, the ALE slowly cam to the conclusion that his story was not making sense, and it didnt take much before HE ADMITTED THAT HE WAS LYING.

Be patient because this is not over yet and now he has to explain why he did this.

http://www.diarioaruba.com/diahuebs/noticia/news7.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 12:03:47 PM
.
Natalee is not being held by a foreign government.  We do not have proof or knowledge that any government was involved.  Foreign "countries" refers to their governements participating in or holding the person.  
I don't think Natalee is being held in KIA.   :(


Same for the Israelis dealing with their abducted serviceman.  Oh, how I wish we could take their approach but it is not a foreign country doing this just local garden-variety thugs.

Israel has now arrested and detained one-third of the Palestinian cabinet.  Bet that gets their attention.   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 12:04:05 PM
SPeaking of fluffa....

Fluffa a nutta that is..........

A guy on the radio was fed 8 tablespoons of fluffa nutta and tried to say the alphabet.

Only made it to K! LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 12:05:29 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
SPeaking of fluffa....

Fluffa a nutta that is..........

A guy on the radio was fed 8 tablespoons of fluffa nutta and tried to say the alphabet.

Only made it to K! LOL



 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sue on June 29, 2006, 12:05:45 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Sue"
How do Hague rules apply to this case???



Sue, All the countries that signed the Treaty at the Convention at the Hague can invoke the use of them if needed is my understanding.  This
is the sort of international case they were set up for dealing with and to give some way possible to have cases that cross international borders as criminals could always just cross over into the next country and be untouchable everywhere.

Better legal minds of board than mine, however, and would think others know more and better about it all.

.



thank you Anna I appreciate response


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 29, 2006, 12:05:53 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I Have a Black Belt (and a Green T-shirt.).. I don't have any certificates, so I thought I would throw that out there..


 :lol:  :lol:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 12:08:24 PM
Quote from: "sharon"
I've been afraid to post them for fear of the 'other side' reading them. But they are comments on Michelle's site, so I guess anyone could have already read them. They are public.

Now, I just want to know if there is any truth to them.

I guess we will know one way or the other at the end of '60 days'.


I think they are correct.  I had heard before the filing this was the case and like Sharon did not want to mention it much because I knew it would cause Hell and Half of Holland to come down on Monkeys.  I am convinced that is why JQK chose this venue and I am pretty sure that even an old criminal-sympathizer like Greta knows this.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 12:09:25 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I Have a Black Belt (and a Green T-shirt.).. I don't have any certificates, so I thought I would throw that out there..


Black Belt in Karate? Or Six Sigma?

Either one -- an HONOR to know you :D


Hey terryd -- summer is apparently here in S Florida full force already. I hope you take lots of water on your bike rides.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: "sharon"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I Have a Black Belt (and a Green T-shirt.).. I don't have any certificates, so I thought I would throw that out there..


Black Belt in Karate? Or Six Sigma?

Either one -- an HONOR to know you :D


Hey terryd -- summer is apparently here in S Florida full force already. I hope you take lots of water on your bike rides.


Six Sigma... my old company had that !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: "whytegirl"
NOTE TO RED....

PLEASE WRITE A RED HOT JALAPENO STYLE SOUTHWEST SPICY TEXAN EDITORIAL ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH'S PRESS CONFERENCE GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH JAPAN'S PRIME MINISTER.

HE BOASTED HOW HE MET THIS WOMAN WHO'S DAUGHTER WAS ABDUCTED BY NORTH KOREA AND HOW SADDENED HE WAS AND HE WAS ALMOST BROUGHT TO TEARS, HE THOUGHT ABOUT HIS OWN DAUGHTERS AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO EITHER OF THEM IF THEY GOT KIDNAPPED.

I KID YOU NOT.  GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

WHYTEGIRL


Prime Minister is a big ELVIS fan. :lol:   Look at his sideburns.  It's the truth, I am not kidding.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "whytegirl"
NOTE TO RED....

PLEASE WRITE A RED HOT JALAPENO STYLE SOUTHWEST SPICY TEXAN EDITORIAL ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH'S PRESS CONFERENCE GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH JAPAN'S PRIME MINISTER.

HE BOASTED HOW HE MET THIS WOMAN WHO'S DAUGHTER WAS ABDUCTED BY NORTH KOREA AND HOW SADDENED HE WAS AND HE WAS ALMOST BROUGHT TO TEARS, HE THOUGHT ABOUT HIS OWN DAUGHTERS AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO EITHER OF THEM IF THEY GOT KIDNAPPED.

I KID YOU NOT.  GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

WHYTEGIRL


Prime Minister is a big ELVIS fan. :lol:   Look at his sideburns.  It's the truth, I am not kidding.


 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 12:12:28 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "whytegirl"
NOTE TO RED....

PLEASE WRITE A RED HOT JALAPENO STYLE SOUTHWEST SPICY TEXAN EDITORIAL ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH'S PRESS CONFERENCE GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH JAPAN'S PRIME MINISTER.

HE BOASTED HOW HE MET THIS WOMAN WHO'S DAUGHTER WAS ABDUCTED BY NORTH KOREA AND HOW SADDENED HE WAS AND HE WAS ALMOST BROUGHT TO TEARS, HE THOUGHT ABOUT HIS OWN DAUGHTERS AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO EITHER OF THEM IF THEY GOT KIDNAPPED.

I KID YOU NOT.  GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

WHYTEGIRL


Prime Minister is a big ELVIS fan. :lol:   Look at his sideburns.  It's the truth, I am not kidding.


Thank "Q"  thank "q" very much..... :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Excellent point, Anna.

Amazon is great.


Don't forget to look for gardening books while you are there.  You all know you need some books on gardening. :lol:   Amazon thinks I have a library.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: whytegirl on June 29, 2006, 12:15:53 PM
now that is funny!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:17:24 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 12:18:08 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
.
Natalee is not being held by a foreign government.  We do not have proof or knowledge that any government was involved.  Foreign "countries" refers to their governements participating in or holding the person.  
I don't think Natalee is being held in KIA.   :(


Same for the Israelis dealing with their abducted serviceman.  Oh, how I wish we could take their approach but it is not a foreign country doing this just local garden-variety thugs.

Israel has now arrested and detained one-third of the Palestinian cabinet.  Bet that gets their attention.   :shock:


Ah, Anna interjects a little sanity here and there for all of us, so that we understand how laws and international laws really work.  If anyone here thinks our government is not totally aware of Natalee and what is going on, they only have to go back to an Alabama football game in October and remember who was there and who saw who after the game was over.  I think anyone who thinks our government can jump in and bomb Aruba because three interlopers kidnapped/killed Aruba -- now that would give us the name of cowboys.  This is not an attack on our government or its principles.  This is an isolated event and although it might make us mad as Hell, our government cannot go farther than offering FBI and DEA agents to assist.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?


FYI - some of my better artwork, lol  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: blah on June 29, 2006, 12:21:16 PM
Quote from: "whytegirl"
Red/Tom/Klaas got mail.  Read my previous post.  This is important!!!!  How can Bush sympathize with a girl from another country (or pretend to), WHEN WE GOT A GIRL HERE WHO'S BEEN MISSING FOR A YEAR?

He noted the importance of kidnapping by foreign countries...WELL WHAT IS ARUBA?  A FOREIGN ISLAND!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


come on now, if you want to take a shot at Bush, i'm sure you could think of better ways than this :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?


FYI - some of my better artwork, lol  :lol:


KLAAS, you just get better & better everyday.  I think Steve Cohen is Julia Renfro with a toupe.  Notice the bug eyes from a face lift when it is Cohen and yet the same wrinkled leather skin.  One in the same, or is it all that sucking up for money in the Caribbean that makes one look like that?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: whytegirl on June 29, 2006, 12:23:01 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?


FYI - some of my better artwork, lol  :lol:


Just when I think you cannot top it off, you prove me wrong again!!!   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 29, 2006, 12:23:12 PM
Sorry I was looking at my daughters website to see whats she is up to.. She is coming down for her 21st birthday in a couple of weeks.. I guess I better go and see what the day has for me.. Sharon, I will be down to Miami for sure with my daughter.. I lost my sunglasses and its kinda funny because I remember saying to myself that I hope I remember where I'm putting these, well I forgot.. Everyone take care..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 29, 2006, 12:24:05 PM
Milk carton damn funny. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: "whytegirl"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?


FYI - some of my better artwork, lol  :lol:


Just when I think you cannot top it off, you prove me wrong again!!!   :wink:


You guys need to read through that entire article on the FP to the end.  The ending is great!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 12:24:55 PM
LMAO @ Steve Cohen on a milk carton!

Definitely some of your best work, Klaas.

Perhaps we need a thread in the Monkey Lounge those who may have missed the cookbook or had theirs absconded with since it sounds like Mrs. Red can reproduce them without much trouble (I hope).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:25:49 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
LMAO @ Steve Cohen on a milk carton!

Definitely some of your best work, Klaas.

Perhaps we need a thread in the Monkey Lounge those who may have missed the cookbook or had theirs absconded with since it sounds like Mrs. Red can reproduce them without much trouble (I hope).


Milk carton was Red's idea..I just produced it for him, LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 12:27:49 PM
Hey whytegirl!

Can you give us the highlights of this?

OTRO TESTIGO DEN CASO NATALEE TA ADMITI DI A GAÑA
   
ORANJESTAD (AAN) -- No mucho tempo pasa tabata circula informacion encuanto un testigo Latino kende lo tabata tin informacion hopi pisa riba e caso di e studiante Mericano desapareci, esta Natalee y e persona en cuestion lo a wak “un ke otro tuma lugar na beach”.

  Via via e testigo su informacionnan a yega na redaccion di DIARIO y despues e testigo mes a presenta na DIARIO.  Pa e por a yega na redaccion no tabata facil pasobra e persona aki na prome instancia a haci masha dificil mes pa coopera cu e investigacion.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: sharon on June 29, 2006, 12:28:32 PM
ok terryd -- this is VERY off topic, but I've been waiting to be online the same time as you to say this to you (and my other SF neighbors here) --

HOW ABOUT THOSE MIAMI HEAT?????

(I'm a very big fan -- and was at all the home games for the first 3 rounds. Was only able to get tickets to one Finals game -- um, without selling the house and car that is)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 12:34:28 PM
I see a translation was found at that "other" site!  Sounds about right though.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I see a translation was found at that "other" site!  Sounds about right though.


Easy - yes, that's why I posted it.  Looked like it was about right to me as well.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 29, 2006, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I see a translation was found at that "other" site!  Sounds about right though.


Easy - yes, that's why I posted it.  Looked like it was about right to me as well.


Yeah, pretty much matches up with what I was told yesterday afternoon.  Ain't no body happy about this one, but I think we all had our doubts all along.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "whytegirl"
Red/Tom/Klaas got mail.  Read my previous post.  This is important!!!!  How can Bush sympathize with a girl from another country (or pretend to), WHEN WE GOT A GIRL HERE WHO'S BEEN MISSING FOR A YEAR?

He noted the importance of kidnapping by foreign countries...WELL WHAT IS ARUBA?  A FOREIGN ISLAND!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


come on now, if you want to take a shot at Bush, i'm sure you could think of better ways than this :roll:




Yeah, and if he actually DID something, he'd be exceeding his authority and a court ruling would be demanded.   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 29, 2006, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?

FYI - some of my better artwork, lol  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol: Klaas are you going to do a collage of all your pictures.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?

FYI - some of my better artwork, lol  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol: Klaas are you going to do a collage of all your pictures.


Could do a coffee table book like Kramer did in Seinfeld..ha ha ha  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 29, 2006, 12:49:31 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?

FYI - some of my better artwork, lol  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol: Klaas are you going to do a collage of all your pictures.


Could do a coffee table book like Kramer did in Seinfeld..ha ha ha  :lol:

The two that come to mind immediately is the Herman Munster one and the one where you covered Joran's hives.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 12:51:17 PM
We really need to have the overlight legacy of Renfro in it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 12:54:00 PM
TERRY, my squirrely friend.

Please give me information you referred to in earlier post.  Thanking you in advance, I remain your nutty gardening friend, planting bulbs for winter squirrels.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
LMAO @ Steve Cohen on a milk carton!

Definitely some of your best work, Klaas.

Perhaps we need a thread in the Monkey Lounge those who may have missed the cookbook or had theirs absconded with since it sounds like Mrs. Red can reproduce them without much trouble (I hope).


Let me check on that... I have just promised the last 3 and need to make a couple more... so not yet, but thank you so much Peaches for the idea... I just need to find out the reproduction costs!!  and if it's possible!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:54:11 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
We really need to have the overlight legacy of Renfro in it.


I have some Renfro none have seen, LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 29, 2006, 12:54:37 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
We really need to have the overlight legacy of Renfro in it.


I have some Renfro none have seen, LOL
But can we ever :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 12:55:44 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://tinyurl.com/pwkp3

Steve Cohen & Aruba the Truth: Missing in Aruba

Has anyone seen this man? Steve Cohen has suddenly found himself in the “where are they now files”. Steve Cohen is added to a long line of  former Aruban spokes people that have faded off the map in to obscurity. Have the budget cuts in Aruba due to the dwindling tourism cost Cohen his funding?

FYI - some of my better artwork, lol  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol: Klaas are you going to do a collage of all your pictures.


Could do a coffee table book like Kramer did in Seinfeld..ha ha ha  :lol:

The two that come to mind immediately is the Herman Munster one and the one where you covered Joran's hives.


OMG/// we need a thread in the lounge with all the singing ones and the pictures Klaasend and None did over the holidays too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 29, 2006, 12:56:27 PM
Well, I think someone needs to put my "desire and motivation to work" on the back of a milk carton, because I damn sure don't want to be here right about now!!  ;)

How's everybody doing?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: blah on June 29, 2006, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
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Quote from: "whytegirl"
Red/Tom/Klaas got mail.  Read my previous post.  This is important!!!!  How can Bush sympathize with a girl from another country (or pretend to), WHEN WE GOT A GIRL HERE WHO'S BEEN MISSING FOR A YEAR?

He noted the importance of kidnapping by foreign countries...WELL WHAT IS ARUBA?  A FOREIGN ISLAND!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


come on now, if you want to take a shot at Bush, i'm sure you could think of better ways than this :roll:




Yeah, and if he actually DID something, he'd be exceeding his authority and a court ruling would be demanded.   :roll:


It is just too easy to predict these things anymore
:wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 12:57:06 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
We really need to have the overlight legacy of Renfro in it.


I have some Renfro none have seen, LOL



Yeah, me too but mine are not suitable for publishing!   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:57:20 PM
Mrs. Red - the only hope for the singing ones is to retrieve the old data.  I don't think they are availabe any more at Blue Mountain.  Actually, the links may not work any more.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 29, 2006, 12:57:51 PM
O/T - Did you ever notice that you talk louder and use your hands more to a person that doesn't speak English.  My sister got a cleaning lady to help me until I'm feeling better and it's a little tough comminicating.  I did get the part where she said she liked coming to my house because I make good coffee :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: "San"
O/T - Did you ever notice that you talk louder and use your hands more to a person that doesn't speak English.  My sister got a cleaning lady to help me until I'm feeling better and it's a little tough comminicating.  I did get the part where she said she liked coming to my house because I make good coffee :lol:  :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 29, 2006, 12:59:41 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Peaches"
LMAO @ Steve Cohen on a milk carton!

Definitely some of your best work, Klaas.

Perhaps we need a thread in the Monkey Lounge those who may have missed the cookbook or had theirs absconded with since it sounds like Mrs. Red can reproduce them without much trouble (I hope).


Let me check on that... I have just promised the last 3 and need to make a couple more... so not yet, but thank you so much Peaches for the idea... I just need to find out the reproduction costs!!  and if it's possible!!


Oops.  Leave it to me to volunteer YOU for something like that.  I know it was a huge undertaking the first time around.  I think the demand is out there....maybe.  Thread would  be to determine interest since I assume it's cheaper if you're reproducing more than 1 or 2.  What do I know?  I'm just the CG here at the office.

(That's Claims Goddess......... what the boss called me when I told him I needed a better title than Claims Secretary!)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sue on June 29, 2006, 01:00:38 PM
Man this is getting very upsetting ... what is wrong with these damn people
why are they wasting ALE's time and messing up this case??
this is so frustrating and makes me so angry...
We want Natalee home and someone out there knows something.
This case must go forward in New York


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Anna on June 29, 2006, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: "San"
O/T - Did you ever notice that you talk louder and use your hands more to a person that doesn't speak English.  My sister got a cleaning lady to help me until I'm feeling better and it's a little tough comminicating.  I did get the part where she said she liked coming to my house because I make good coffee :lol:  :lol:



Works in reverse, too, San.  When I used to go to South America to visit my relatives, if I did not understand my mother-in-law, she would just shout it louder to me.   :roll: And louder . . . .and louder. . .andlouder!   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 01:01:46 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - the only hope for the singing ones is to retrieve the old data.  I don't think they are availabe any more at Blue Mountain.  Actually, the links may not work any more.


Dang, I loved, loved the tickle me tito edition....LOL...

and the herman munster San mentioned...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: blah on June 29, 2006, 01:02:13 PM
Quote from: "Sue"
Man this is getting very upsetting ... what is wrong with these damn people
why are they wasting ALE's time and messing up this case??
this is so frustrating and makes me so angry...
We want Natalee home and someone out there knows something.
This case must go forward in New York


Nadira Ramirez did give us a heads up about this way back in the beginning when she told us everybody lies.  I guess we just didnt take her seriously enough.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: "San"
O/T - Did you ever notice that you talk louder and use your hands more to a person that doesn't speak English.  My sister got a cleaning lady to help me until I'm feeling better and it's a little tough comminicating.  I did get the part where she said she liked coming to my house because I make good coffee :lol:  :lol:


Well I did see that Darleen posted the fact that I can't make coffee yesterday... (it's true :oops: ) so don't tell RED>..LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 29, 2006, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "San"
O/T - Did you ever notice that you talk louder and use your hands more to a person that doesn't speak English.  My sister got a cleaning lady to help me until I'm feeling better and it's a little tough comminicating.  I did get the part where she said she liked coming to my house because I make good coffee :lol:  :lol:

Works in reverse, too, San.  When I used to go to South America to visit my relatives, if I did not understand my mother-in-law, she would just shout it louder to me.   :roll: And louder . . . .and louder. . .andlouder!   :roll:

 :lol:  :lol: Anna I never thought of that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 01:03:49 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Peaches"
LMAO @ Steve Cohen on a milk carton!

Definitely some of your best work, Klaas.

Perhaps we need a thread in the Monkey Lounge those who may have missed the cookbook or had theirs absconded with since it sounds like Mrs. Red can reproduce them without much trouble (I hope).


Let me check on that... I have just promised the last 3 and need to make a couple more... so not yet, but thank you so much Peaches for the idea... I just need to find out the reproduction costs!!  and if it's possible!!


Oops.  Leave it to me to volunteer YOU for something like that.  I know it was a huge undertaking the first time around.  I think the demand is out there....maybe.  Thread would  be to determine interest since I assume it's cheaper if you're reproducing more than 1 or 2.  What do I know?  I'm just the CG here at the office.

(That's Claims Goddess......... what the boss called me when I told him I needed a better title than Claims Secretary!)


NO... I don't mind but I got buzzed with emails to my surprise and I need to make sure I can fulfill demand!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Sue on June 29, 2006, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "Sue"
Man this is getting very upsetting ... what is wrong with these damn people
why are they wasting ALE's time and messing up this case??
this is so frustrating and makes me so angry...
We want Natalee home and someone out there knows something.
This case must go forward in New York


Nadira Ramirez did give us a heads up about this way back in the beginning when she told us everybody lies.  I guess we just didnt take her seriously enough.


well they need to prosecute this guy to the fullest  good lord this is just crazy


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 29, 2006, 01:04:46 PM
Ready to start on Volume 2 Mrs Red and San?  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 29, 2006, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Ready to start on Volume 2 Mrs Red and San?  :wink:


 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: blah on June 29, 2006, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: "Sue"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "Sue"
Man this is getting very upsetting ... what is wrong with these damn people
why are they wasting ALE's time and messing up this case??
this is so frustrating and makes me so angry...
We want Natalee home and someone out there knows something.
This case must go forward in New York


Nadira Ramirez did give us a heads up about this way back in the beginning when she told us everybody lies.  I guess we just didnt take her seriously enough.


well they need to prosecute this guy to the fullest  good lord this is just crazy



they will probably just write him a check for his troubles and cut him loose.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: San on June 29, 2006, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Ready to start on Volume 2 Mrs Red and San?  :wink:

No :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 29, 2006, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Ready to start on Volume 2 Mrs Red and San?  :wink:


 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


LOL!  Somehow I thought that is the reaction I would get!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 29, 2006, 01:07:49 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/nowlocked.jpg)

Please move to LCD# 483

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=20


Title: Lively Case Discussion #482 6/28 - 6/29/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 29, 2006, 01:07:52 PM
Just dropping in and out..  I gotta go for now . See ya all in a little while.