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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: MuffyBee on July 08, 2011, 05:49:56 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: KCJackie on July 09, 2011, 06:17:36 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/28494098/detail.html

More Than 150 Sign Petition Against Jose Baez
Posted: 11:44 pm EDT July 8, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. -- There is no doubt that the Casey Anthony murder trial was contentious. Even Chief Judge Belvin Perry gave his opinion about the trial and the lawyers.

“There has been gamesmanship in the case, andit’s quite evident there is a friction between attorneys,”Judge Perry said.

 ::snipping2::

“I will reserve the decision to proceed with contempt proceedings at the conclusion of this trial,” Judge Perry warned.

Now the trial is over and some people want to see those contempt proceedings happen. They’ve launched an online petition asking Judge Perry to punish Baez. The same way he punished trial watcher, Matthew Bartlett who showed prosecutor Jeff Ashton his middle finger in the courtroom.

 ::snipping2::

So far, more than 160 people have signed the petition.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 06:23:28 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/276382/Caylees-Law-gains-momentum
Caylee's Law gains momentum
(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/caylee-anthony-key-players.jpg)
CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY -- Born August 9, 2005. Disappeared June 2008, weeks before her third birthday. Her remains were found on December 11, 2008, in a wooded area near her home.
By Stephanie Coueignoux, Reporter
Last Updated: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:28 PM

 ::snipping2::
"I think what everyone agrees on is that it is absolutely wrong for someone to -- for 31 days to prance around and party when their child is deceased or missing," Plakon said.

Plakon teamed up with Miami Rep. Jose Diaz to write the law.

Under this proposed law, the following would become felonies:

    failing to report a missing child
    failing to report the death of a child or the location of a child's body
    intentionally providing false information to law enforcement about a child's disappearance

"If this law would have been in place, Casey Anthony would not be walking out of the Orange County Jail in the next few days. She would be walking in the jail many, many years from now," Plakon said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 06:25:43 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2011/07/09/anthony_verdict_stirs_call_for_laws/
Anthony verdict stirs call for laws
Penalties wanted for not reporting missing children
By Brent Kallestad
Associated Press / July 9, 2011

TALLAHASSEE - Lawmakers outraged over Casey Anthony’s acquittal have responded by proposing so-called Caylee’s laws that would allow prosecutors to bring felony charges against parents who do not quickly report missing children.
The new measures were triggered, at least in part, by an online petition that had more than 700,000 signatures yesterday. Some questioned whether a new law would do any good because the circumstances of the Anthony case were so rare, but lawmakers in at least a dozen states have already floated proposals reacting to the verdict.
“Casey Anthony broke new ground in brazenness,’’ said Scott Plakon, a Florida state representative who is sponsoring the proposal. “It’s very sad that we even need a law like this, but Casey Anthony just proved that we do as unfortunate as that is.’’
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 06:31:13 AM
Dr. William Weitz & Caylee's Law: Nancy 7/8/11
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/1/tR9FmqYQa0Q


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 09, 2011, 06:35:33 AM
Jose Beaz Needs To Be Held Accountable For His Actions

http://www.change.org/petitions/jose-beaz-needs-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-actions


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jesse on July 09, 2011, 06:47:18 AM
the one thing about that juror number 3 wasnt it known after that she had some kind of not warrant but she was in trouble with the law...i wonder if that was wiped away by Bozo for her help in getting the jury to vote not guilty would be interesting to follow that and see what happens to her on whatever count i cant remember what she was in trouble for


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: sharon on July 09, 2011, 07:12:27 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43691279/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#video-transcript


 ::snipping2::

"God forbid we ever run into a mother like Casey Anthony again," said Plakon, the Florida legislator. "If we do, that mother will be a felon."



Amen

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2011, 07:16:43 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43691279/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#video-transcript


 ::snipping2::

"God forbid we ever run into a mother like Casey Anthony again," said Plakon, the Florida legislator. "If we do, that mother will be a felon."



Amen

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 07:22:42 AM
Jose Beaz Needs To Be Held Accountable For His Actions

http://www.change.org/petitions/jose-beaz-needs-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-actions
signed, sealed, hopefully delievered


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: ISpy on July 09, 2011, 07:55:49 AM
Good morning!  Like everyone else, I've been mulling over like soundbites by Juror #3 and the alternate these past few days, astounded at the lack of critical thinking and logic.  Juror #3 said the jurors were unable to even determine who had physical custody of the child when the "accident" or whatever happened.  Uhmmm, Cindy was the phone pursuing Casey because she didn't know where Caylee was (numerous phone calls and messages over 31 days, MySpace, sending Lee to the bar scene to find Casey, showing up at Casey's "work", calling Amy after they picked up the car from the tow yard, etc.).  Lee, in both statements and depositions, clearly stated Cindy sent him looking for Casey because she hadn't seen Caylee.  Lee, in the jail video visits clearly ask Casey, "Is this like last time?"- as in clearly, Casey had taken Caylee away before in response to some grievance and not let Cindy & George see her.  George wasn't the techno-savvy one of the bunch, the closest one to Casey, nor was he allowed to handle things with Casey = so he wouldn't be in charge of the search effort.  Casey was the one claiming possession of Caylee, by her LE statements that she dropped Caylee off with the nanny.  She was also tied to that by her lies to Cindy that they (she & Caylee)were in Jacksonville. She also established herself as the primary guardian of Caylee with her numerous stories of where Caylee was because she was in contact with Zenaida, she knew where Zenaida and Caylee were in any given week.

Moreover, according to the same juror, the jury basically discounted all of Dr. Vass' testimony about the chloroform in the trunk.  Who best to believe, someone who has a lifetime of experience and an established, well-respected institute for studying dead bodies (causes of death, rate of decomposition in numerous environments, stages of decomposition,chemical processes of decompositions, etc.) or someone with far less experience?   Likewise, they did the same with the duct tape. In essence, the jury had already decided prior to deliberations, to discount Caylee's duct-taped toddler's skull solely because it didn't fit the drowning theory. Wow! IMO, they'd already decided to go with the drowning theory and so they had no questions about testimony, depositions, scientific process, and no need to further examine one shred of evidence.

Got to run-have a family function to go to.  Take good care everybody.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 08:00:45 AM
Jose Beaz Needs To Be Held Accountable For His Actions

http://www.change.org/petitions/jose-beaz-needs-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-actions


I did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 08:11:51 AM
Jose Beaz Needs To Be Held Accountable For His Actions

http://www.change.org/petitions/jose-beaz-needs-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-actions
signed, sealed, hopefully delievered

I signed too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Desdemona on July 09, 2011, 08:13:36 AM
-- Long Post Warning -- Disclaimer: No disrespect intended toward any political beliefs.

Everyone is puzzling over the odd remarks being made by jurors who have spoken out so far.  Were they stupid?  What can explain their baffling verdict that flew in the face of all common sense, the polls, the pundits' predictions, etc..?  Was there juror misconduct?  A planted "stealth juror" or two?  Jury tampering?  Why did Baez seem so chipper when the jury was sent to deliberate, when he should have been shaking in his shoes?  And so upbeat when court reconvened to hear their verdict?

Well, regarding the "Runaway Jury" Theory, and whether the jurors' actions will be, or should be, investigated, it really stands out to me that the stated goal of the DT was to "save Casey's life:"
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Quote from: Northern Rose on July 08, 2011, 08:43:39 PM

Cheney Mason defended the lawyers’ happy reactions at a party after the acquittal in a restaurant near the courthouse. “There were people criticizing that we had a party downstairs [from his office] and drinking champagne,” he told WOFL. “And people criticizing my co-counsel Dorothy Clay Sims for dancing around. … She wasn’t dancing around. She was ecstatic for saving Casey’s life — as we all were. That was the goal.”

And Mason added: ”Nobody has an apology to make.”

The jury did not seem to even consider the lesser charges at all; it is almost as if they glossed right over them -- along with the ample evidence presented by the State -- in their rush to find Casey NOT GUILTY of the Death Penalty charge (1st Degree Murder):   
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Quote from:  Red on July 08, 2011, 08:52:03 PM

Has every one missed the part that the STATE did charge Casey with lesser charges that just capital murder/death penalty?

Even Drew's jurors have messed this up.

The jury could have charged her with aggravated manslaughter or aggravated child abuse ... these were not death penalty charges.

Or have I missed something?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/07/casey-anthony-she-wont-be-going-home-cheney-mason-says.html

The jury did not follow the law, nor the judge's instructions... WHY NOT?
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Quote from CNN article posted upthread:

Speaking to CNN, Ashton said the jury "shouldn't have been even considering punishment during the guilt phase."

If convicted, Anthony could have faced the death penalty.

Ashton said the jury was instructed that sentencing was not part of what they should consider.

"If they did it based on the penalty then they didn't follow the law," he said.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-07/justice/florida.anthony.juror.attorneys_1_roy-kronk-casey-anthony-orange-county-meter-reader?_s=PM:CRIME



Okay.  This is complicated.  But who knows, there may be a connection.  And if there is, I hope it is being investigated:

First, there is the concept of Jury Nullification, as explained by FIJA (Fully Informed Jury Association/Amendment)

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What Lawyers and Judges Won't Tell You About Juries
<snip>
Merely raising the issue of nullification can make prosecutors nervous, for it takes only one person aware of the right in order to hang a jury.
<snip>
That is the power of the jury at work; the power to decide the issues of law under which the defendant is charged, as well as the facts. In our system of checks and balances, the jury is our final check, the people's last safegard against unjust law and tyranny.
http://prorev.com/juries.htm

Note that it's all about the Constitution -- remember how Jennifer Ford and Cheney Mason have both mentioned THE CONSTITUTION in the verdict's aftermath?

It's all about the Constitution, yep:
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Jury Nullification:  The Top Secret Constitutional Right
<snip>
An acquittal may come because the jurors
found the defendant attractive
, or were members of
the same race, or harbored hatred toward the victim's
race, or merely because they were tired of being
sequestered for months.
This possibility, which might
fairly be called "lawless nullification," is protected by
our Constitution
not for its own sake, but because of
our commitment to the secrecy of jury deliberations
and the finality and unreviewability of their verdicts.
(This is true in much the same way that the First
Amendment protects the right to say many things that
nobody would publicly hold up as a model of good
civic behavior.)

http://www.constitution.org/2ll/2ndschol/131jur.pdf

And here is FIJA:
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If You're Called For Jury Service
<snip>
Nothing in the U.S. Constitution or in any Supreme Court decision requires jurors to take an oath to follow the law as the judge explains it or, for that matter, authorizes the judge to "instruct" the jury at all. Judges provide their interpretation of the law, but you may also do your own thinking. Keep in mind that no juror's oath is enforceable, and that you may regard all "instructions" as advice.
http://nowscape.com/fija/_abjury.htm

FIJA is active in Florida:
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FIJA activism in Orange County, FL:
http://wn.com/FIJA_Activism_Orange_County_Courthouse_Orlando_Florida
(several videos at link)

And, regarding the Casey Anthony murder trial in particular --- Remember this, from January & February of this year?
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Group blocked from distributing jury pamphlets hires legal team
<snipped>
FIJA says it works "to restore the traditional role of juries as checks on corrupt government and bad laws" and calls itself a "jury education group."

But FIJA's activities outside the courthouse prompted Ninth Judicial Circuit Chief Judge Belvin Perry to issue an order earlier this year, preventing people from distributing materials aimed at influencing potential or actual jurors.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-02-16/news/os-jury-pamphlet-fight-20110216_1_jury-pamphlets-legal-team-jury-system

Judge Perry issued an order against FIJA's activities to protect the case.  FIJA activists hired an ACLU attorney.  They claimed Judge Perry's order violated their First Amendment rights and the wording in his order was "unconstitutional."

BTW, you can Google it:  ACLU has a history of successfully fighting cases in which people are charged with misdemeanors for giving the single finger salute (i.e. "obscene gesture") and have won some big damage awards for those exonerated -- all in the name of the First Amendment.  That is the same gesture that Mr. Mason made during the DT's celebration, and the same defense he used when called out for his behavior.

Anyway, this is what Caylee blogger Niecey had to say about the FIJA activists fighting Judge Perry's order:

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WOW!!! Okay, freedom of speech and tampering with a jury are 2 different issues. If they are handing out these pamphlets to jurors after they have been selected or even if they are potential jurors under consideration, that to me would be tampering. If this truly is about jurors’ rights……….Why not send it with a summons?

Something is fishy about this.
http://niecey456.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/the-hearing-for-242011-more-in-caylees-case/#comment-29825

One more thing:

Remember the white-haired guy in the red shirt who was brought before a wrathful Judge Perry in the middle of the trial?  He was arrested after handing out pamphlets and refusing to leave.  Name is Mark Schmidter.
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Man accused of handing out pamphlets outside Casey Anthony jury room
http://www.baynews9.com/article/news/2011/june/271337/

Mug shot: http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Mark_Schmidter_4941931/

This dude gets around:
FIJA Outreach at Seminole County Courthouse
<snip>
They explained that jury nullification is the right to refuse to enforce bad laws and bad prosecutions.
http://florida.fija.org/tag/mark-schmidter/

He speaks.
"Julian interviews Mark Schmidter about his jury nullification outreach in Florida"
(Two podcasts at link)
http://tyrannyfighters.com/tag/mark-schmidter/

----
Now, as to whether or not it is legal for a "runaway jury" to take the law into their own hands, against the judge's instructions; as to the question of whether that is indeed constitutional .... we'll leave that as a controversial argument.

However, there is no question about the illegality of jury tampering or juror misconduct.  Those are crimes.  So the important question would be whether jury tampering and/or jury misconduct was engaged in by attorneys, their 'investigators,' or jurors in this case, in order to create Bozo's big win through the secret weapon of jury nullification.
----

BTW, I can't help but find it intriguing that Russell Huekler (alternate juror, first one to speak out after the verdict) teaches Social Studies at a school that boasts a very unusual Criminal Justice Academy.  He mentioned that he intended to transform his jury experience in the Casey trial into an educational lesson for his students.
http://www.cja.pinellas.k12.fl.us/ <--(check it out here.)

Oh, and on that note, did you know that "jury nullification" is a hot topic in some educational circles for student debates?
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Resolved: In the United States, jury nullification is a legitimate check on government.

Arguments:
Popular Interpretation

Yes

Restricting jury nullification takes the power of governing out of the hands of the people, where it belongs, and puts it in the hand of one individual. According to the the Gettysburg Address, the U.S. government is "government of the people, by the people, for the people." Therefore it follows that the people should be allowed to interpret the law. Juries do not nullify eagerly. When they do, it is because it is clear to the jurors that the case is being misinterpreted by the sole Judge. If juries are not allowed to nullify, then the governing power that should belong to the people will instead belong to one man or woman.
   
Responses:

No

Jury nullification negatively affects the Judge's benign role as the unbiased referee of the court. The people have the power to rule in trials, but they must do it in accordance to the laws set down by the American legislature, not based on their own biases. It is the judge's responsibility to be an expert of the law and to decide how the specific case relates to the applicable laws. It is the jury's role to make a judgement regarding the truth of the specific events of the case presented to them. When the jury exceeds that role, it is stepping on the United States Judicial system and on the laws that were created by the people, for the people.

http://debatepedia.idebate.org/en/index.php/Resolved:_In_the_United_States%2C_jury_nullification_is_a_legitimate_check_on_government
Please excuse me if none of this makes sense! 
(And please do not quote this super long post in its entirety, okay?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 08:16:24 AM
Good morning!  Like everyone else, I've been mulling over like soundbites by Juror #3 and the alternate these past few days, astounded at the lack of critical thinking and logic.  Juror #3 said the jurors were unable to even determine who had physical custody of the child when the "accident" or whatever happened.  Uhmmm, Cindy was the phone pursuing Casey because she didn't know where Caylee was (numerous phone calls and messages over 31 days, MySpace, sending Lee to the bar scene to find Casey, showing up at Casey's "work", calling Amy after they picked up the car from the tow yard, etc.).  Lee, in both statements and depositions, clearly stated Cindy sent him looking for Casey because she hadn't seen Caylee.  Lee, in the jail video visits clearly ask Casey, "Is this like last time?"- as in clearly, Casey had taken Caylee away before in response to some grievance and not let Cindy & George see her.  George wasn't the techno-savvy one of the bunch, the closest one to Casey, nor was he allowed to handle things with Casey = so he wouldn't be in charge of the search effort.  Casey was the one claiming possession of Caylee, by her LE statements that she dropped Caylee off with the nanny.  She was also tied to that by her lies to Cindy that they (she & Caylee)were in Jacksonville. She also established herself as the primary guardian of Caylee with her numerous stories of where Caylee was because she was in contact with Zenaida, she knew where Zenaida and Caylee were in any given week.

Moreover, according to the same juror, the jury basically discounted all of Dr. Vass' testimony about the chloroform in the trunk.  Who best to believe, someone who has a lifetime of experience and an established, well-respected institute for studying dead bodies (causes of death, rate of decomposition in numerous environments, stages of decomposition,chemical processes of decompositions, etc.) or someone with far less experience?   Likewise, they did the same with the duct tape. In essence, the jury had already decided prior to deliberations, to discount Caylee's duct-taped toddler's skull solely because it didn't fit the drowning theory. Wow! IMO, they'd already decided to go with the drowning theory and so they had no questions about testimony, depositions, scientific process, and no need to further examine one shred of evidence.

Got to run-have a family function to go to.  Take good care everybody.   
Not only that but Casey claimed to have talked to Caylee that day or the day before on the phone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 08:18:52 AM
you know if you step back from the situation and take all the emotion out of it - logic tells us either that jury was tampered with in one way or another OR 12 of the dumbest & most uneducated, unintelligent people voted that day.  Tough call but I sincerely believe something fishy went on!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 08:25:19 AM
Here in Columbus OH, we do hear about Casey, but we are also hearing about sanctions for OSU and their scandal (players getting free tattoos, etc).  Yesterday I was listening to the AM talk radio channel, and the guy said that Jim Tressel no longer having to pay $250k, but instead gets paid a monthly salary, etc..  is "just like the Casey Anthony trial".   We'll still hear about OJ I'm sure, but now that Casey is the new OJ, this tells me that the majority of people out there honestly believe that what happened in the case in Florida is a complete miscarriage of justice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 08:31:04 AM
Klaas I think we need a thread  for "state by state" so to speak who is going forward in trying to pass Caylee's law. 
So we can refer back and update the DATE Caylee's Law HAS passed in each state.
It would be a no discussion thread, only info.

Pleaseeeee.. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 08:31:58 AM
you know if you step back from the situation and take all the emotion out of it - logic tells us either that jury was tampered with in one way or another OR 12 of the dumbest & most uneducated, unintelligent people voted that day.  Tough call but I sincerely believe something fishy went on!

Has to be. 

Most of the jurors that have spoken out say they don't think she's innocent. However, they didn't know exactly how Caylee died, they thought George was unbelievable, and the state showed by at least a couple of their witnesses that Casey was a good mom.

1.) How Caylee died, considering the fact she wasn't reported dead or missing, is irrelevant.
2.) George having a mistress and being combative with Baez about that is also irrelevant (IMO)
3.) If Casey was such a good mom, then you still have to question #1. Why wasn't she reported dead? Why didn't Casey show any emotion? Why did she lie for so long? Why does all of the evidence take you back to Casey?  I'm sure lots of mothers who have killed their own children were "good" at some point. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Desdemona on July 09, 2011, 08:33:54 AM
In my long post above, this link worked when I was typing it.  But I just noticed it doesn't work now.
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<snip>
Man accused of handing out pamphlets outside Casey Anthony jury room
http://www.baynews9.com/article/news/2011/june/271337/

Here is a cached version I found. At least for the present moment, this link works.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Qed4011JVrIJ:www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/271337/Man-accused-of-handing-out-pamphlets-outside-Casey-Anthony-jury-room+man+handing+out+pamphlets&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 08:40:03 AM
you know if you step back from the situation and take all the emotion out of it - logic tells us either that jury was tampered with in one way or another OR 12 of the dumbest & most uneducated, unintelligent people voted that day.  Tough call but I sincerely believe something fishy went on!

Has to be. 

Most of the jurors that have spoken out say they don't think she's innocent. However, they didn't know exactly how Caylee died, they thought George was unbelievable, and the state showed by at least a couple of their witnesses that Casey was a good mom.

1.) How Caylee died, considering the fact she wasn't reported dead or missing, is irrelevant.
2.) George having a mistress and being combative with Baez about that is also irrelevant (IMO)
3.) If Casey was such a good mom, then you still have to question #1. Why wasn't she reported dead? Why didn't Casey show any emotion? Why did she lie for so long? Why does all of the evidence take you back to Casey?  I'm sure lots of mothers who have killed their own children were "good" at some point. 

Well put - makes total sense to me!  I hope & pray that someone somewhere is looking into this.  If the public feels this way then hopefully people who can do something about it do too.  I'm hoping they don't have the "why bother" attitude & step up to the plate for Caylee.  Even if the jurors weren't "tampered" with they certainly didn't reach their verdict by following the judges instructions and that would also garner an investigation.   I'm just so disgusted by this whole thing it saddens me to think that this Great country of ours lets child killers roam free to kill again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 08:43:19 AM
Klaas I think we need a thread  for "state by state" so to speak who is going forward in trying to pass Caylee's law. 
So we can refer back and update the DATE Caylee's Law HAS passed in each state.
It would be a no discussion thread, only info.

Pleaseeeee.. ::MonkeyAngel::

I have followed this case and a few others yes internet makes it easier to follow them, my mom and son on the other hand doesnt really follow nothing if it isnt here and now type of situations. They both day after day watched court with me, we were all stunned with the verdict of NG. My mom said immediately when Bozo did his gun solute to the camera that something wasnt right, here you have your client facing death row and your all smiles and shooting fingers? She turned to me and said hun shes walking he got to the jury someway somehow, I know JP let them go home on friday after being picked from Friday to Sunday they were not guarded or anything. Why werent they?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 08:43:24 AM

Lawmakers outraged over Casey Anthony's acquittal from many, many States.
This speaks VOLUMES!

snip

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43691279/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#video-transcript (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43691279/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#video-transcript)

"God forbid we ever run into a mother like Casey Anthony again," said Plakon, the Florida legislator. "If we do, that mother will be a felon."
This speaks VOLUMES!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
I am wondering if Mr. George and Linda is investigating this due to JP, Linda or Mr. George has made any type of statements at all on this ruling?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 08:53:54 AM
http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/crime/professor-stands-by-his-evidence-in-casey-anthony-trial
(http://media2.wlfi.com//photo/2011/07/08/Neal_Haskell_20110708234638_320_240.JPG)
Professor stands by his evidence in Casey Anthony trial
Dr. Haskell "shocked" by verdict
Updated: Saturday, 09 Jul 2011, 12:08 AM EDT
Published : Friday, 08 Jul 2011, 11:52 PM EDT

RENSSELAER, Ind. (WLFI) - A forensic science professor from Rensselaer said he, like many others, were shocked at the outcome of the Casey Anthony trial this week.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Blonde on July 09, 2011, 08:55:34 AM
Can  this case be taken to The state Supreme Court  saying that the Jury and judge was wrong,
and get this  reversed?



It happed here
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-gould-supreme-court-0709-20110708,0,2876568.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 09:01:43 AM
Can  this case be taken to The state Supreme Court  saying that the Jury and judge was wrong,
and get this  reversed?



It happed here
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-gould-supreme-court-0709-20110708,0,2876568.story
It doesnt seem it went in front of jury if there were a jury then it got overturned then I would say yes but not sure


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 09:02:11 AM
I am wondering if Mr. George and Linda is investigating this due to JP, Linda or Mr. George has made any type of statements at all on this ruling?

According to an article I found recently, Linda is not allowed to speak on the case..  I'm guessing because she is still involved in getting compensation for the state, re: the search, etc..

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleynewsdispatch/lifestyles/s_745379.html

Cindy Drane, an Oakmont resident, exchanged e-mails with her older sister a short time after the verdict was rendered.

"She said she's OK and she'll call me later," Cindy Drane said. "She said she thought she did the best she could. She just wanted to do her job. You just can't predict what a jury is going to do."

She said Linda told her that the Florida State Attorney General's office has not permitted her to talk to the media, even after the verdict.

"Geraldo Rivera came up to her and introduced himself, but she told him she couldn't talk to him," Cindy Drane said.

"You'll find one thing out about Linda -- she plays by the rules, her ethics are high," said Don Drane, adding that while they spoke about once a week during the trial, the case was never discussed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 09:06:59 AM
http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/crime/professor-stands-by-his-evidence-in-casey-anthony-trial
(http://media2.wlfi.com//photo/2011/07/08/Neal_Haskell_20110708234638_320_240.JPG)
Professor stands by his evidence in Casey Anthony trial
Dr. Haskell "shocked" by verdict
Updated: Saturday, 09 Jul 2011, 12:08 AM EDT
Published : Friday, 08 Jul 2011, 11:52 PM EDT

RENSSELAER, Ind. (WLFI) - A forensic science professor from Rensselaer said he, like many others, were shocked at the outcome of the Casey Anthony trial this week.
 ::snipping2::

Once thing that is so disturbing about this verdict.. the state put on excellent witnesses who really know their stuff.  Baez put on a bunch of whack-a-doodles, and he still got his client off scott free.  How the hell does this happen?  I feel bad for this Dr. and the many others who took this case seriously.  They didn't spout of nonsense about coyotes, and act sloshed (or completely full of themselves) up on the stand. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 09:08:18 AM
not sure if anybody else posted this, but Ohio wants to join in to support Caylee's Law.   ::MonkeyGavel::

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2011/07/09/story-columbus-casey-anthony-trial-inspires-law.html?sid=102
Caylee Anthony Case Inspires Law Proposal In Ohio


COLUMBUS, Ohio — Hundreds of Ohioans have e-mailed and called their state representatives after the recent Casey Anthony trial, many of them outraged that her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, was not reported missing for a month.

Ohio State Rep. Michael Stinziano drafted "Caylee's Law" because he wants parents to work with police if a child vanishes, 10TV's Danielle Elias reported.

"If there's a missing child or concern of a missing child, or neglect, it would add a timeframe that doesn't currently exist in Ohio law," Stinziano said.

The proposed law would make it a felony for parents not to report the death of a child to police within an hour, or within 24 hours in the case of a missing child, Elias reported.

Stinziano said Ohio has one of the first pieces of legislation addressing the issue, though other states are beginning to draft theirs now, Elias reported.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 09:09:55 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Watch full episode: 'Inside the Verdict'
  After weeks of media captivation, the trial of Casey Anthony reaches a controversial conclusion. Dateline NBC's Dennis Murphy reports.

Part 1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Part 2 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691568


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Blonde on July 09, 2011, 09:12:46 AM
Can  this case be taken to The state Supreme Court  saying that the Jury and judge was  were wrong,
and get this  reversed?



It happed here
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-gould-supreme-court-0709-20110708,0,2876568.story

Supreme Court decisions can only be overturned in two ways:

Legitimate Methods
The US Supreme Court reverses a decision on an earlier case by making a contradictory decision on a current case.

Congress and the States can overturn a decision by amending the Constitution.

Illegitimate Methods (Passive Resistance)
Sometimes the Executive Branch obstructs or fails to enforce a decision.

Sometimes Congress rewrites legislation to bring it into compliance with constitutional guidelines.

Sometimes Congress strips the Supreme Court of its appellate jurisdiction over certain types of cases to deprive them of the ability to overturn a law or policy. ::snipping2::

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_US_Supreme_Court_decisions_be_overturned


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 09:13:14 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Watch full episode: 'Inside the Verdict'
  After weeks of media captivation, the trial of Casey Anthony reaches a controversial conclusion. Dateline NBC's Dennis Murphy reports.

Part 1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Part 2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691568
Part 3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691895
Part 4. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691737
Part 5. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692073
Part 6. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692092


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 09:13:35 AM
Can  this case be taken to The state Supreme Court  saying that the Jury and judge was wrong,
and get this  reversed?



It happed here
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-gould-supreme-court-0709-20110708,0,2876568.story

What if they did not deliberate?  I question if they ever deliberated this case.  I wonder if they just took a vote while
eating dinner?  everything about this just does not add up. IMO  (they just wanted to get the hay out of the Hotel).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 09:13:41 AM
I still feel theres got to be a loop hole somewheres that will bring this case back into courts I have been praying on this since the verdict was read. Something is not right. I know I cant be wrong if the world feels the same way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 09:16:08 AM
Desdemona your post should be copied and sent to every judge, Governor and Representatives of the 9th district circuit court Florida.


Really.  YOU layed it out PERFECTLY....

BRAVO..............
 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: ZooMomology on July 09, 2011, 09:16:48 AM
http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/crime/professor-stands-by-his-evidence-in-casey-anthony-trial
(http://media2.wlfi.com//photo/2011/07/08/Neal_Haskell_20110708234638_320_240.JPG)
Professor stands by his evidence in Casey Anthony trial
Dr. Haskell "shocked" by verdict
Updated: Saturday, 09 Jul 2011, 12:08 AM EDT
Published : Friday, 08 Jul 2011, 11:52 PM EDT

RENSSELAER, Ind. (WLFI) - A forensic science professor from Rensselaer said he, like many others, were shocked at the outcome of the Casey Anthony trial this week.
 ::snipping2::

Once thing that is so disturbing about this verdict.. the state put on excellent witnesses who really know their stuff.  Baez put on a bunch of whack-a-doodles, and he still got his client off scott free.  How the hell does this happen?  I feel bad for this Dr. and the many others who took this case seriously.  They didn't spout of nonsense about coyotes, and act sloshed (or completely full of themselves) up on the stand. 

It is like they just listened to Bozo OS and that was it, accident.  Who cares about duct tape.  Who cares about chloroform.  I have never seen anything like this in my life.  They listened to nobody.  I have hope that at least some of the jurors will have some compassion after they have a bit of time to get over this and make some concessions about there was too much to go through or they were bullied, which is what i think happened.  Even the foreman isn't talking.  What the heck is up with that?  How do you go from 10-2 for 1st degree murder and/or 6/6 manslaughter to 12 not guilty of anything but lying to police?  Judge should have stopped and brought the jury to a private room or something and spoke to them.  I bet he could not do that though. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: ZooMomology on July 09, 2011, 09:19:05 AM
I also think the fact that every witness was pretty much arguing with Bozo had something to do with this.  He is so annoying, but maybe the jury felt sorry for him.  The putz. 

I cannot believe they all though she was so sweet and innocent.  I hate her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 09:23:21 AM
Can  this case be taken to The state Supreme Court  saying that the Jury and judge was wrong,
and get this  reversed?



It happed here
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-gould-supreme-court-0709-20110708,0,2876568.story

What if they did not deliberate?  I question if they ever deliberated this case.  I wonder if they just took a vote while
eating dinner?  everything about this just does not add up. IMO  (they just wanted to get the hay out of the Hotel).

They never asked to see evidence, didn't ask the judge for clarification, apparently didn't ask for a read-back (although I'm assuming they had transcripts with them in the jury room?), never asked for any breaks as far as I recall. They didn't even take their notebooks with them, did they?  Some of them rarely (if ever) took notes.  It was just shy of 11 hours that they were actually in the jury room. This does not include time spent eating and going to the bathroom, much less picking a jury foreman, figuring out where they all stood, etc.  How does one justify so little time spent deliberating? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 09, 2011, 09:23:30 AM
Jose Beaz Needs To Be Held Accountable For His Actions

http://www.change.org/petitions/jose-beaz-needs-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-actions
signed, sealed, hopefully delievered

I signed too!

So did I.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 09, 2011, 09:26:38 AM
I posted this last night and brought it over from the other thread...Bill O'Reilly on a roll...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-oreilly-casey-anthony-juror-209259


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: labubske on July 09, 2011, 09:27:07 AM
Desdemona...Great post!  I recall that one of the jurors (at least) was on a prior jury...I wonder if that one ever received one of these pamphlets?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 09, 2011, 09:27:45 AM
Desi...send your post to Bill O...he likes to get involved in that kind of stuff...especially when he is passionate about it..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: theboyzmom on July 09, 2011, 09:28:56 AM
I will not quote the long jury nullification explanation  by Des but I will say that I completely disagree with the allegation that jury nullification is a valid explanation for the outcome of this case. In its simplest form Jury Nullification is simply one of two things either 1) the law itself is a bad law or 2) the law was improperly applied.  Neither applies in this case.

My hubs happens to be active with FIJA - and gets regular updates from the guy that heads the Orlando chapter. Judge Perry has always been very nice to the group and has only restricted them from areas they should not be in. 

An example of jury nullification (which is illegal to tell a jury about once they are empathized) would be finding someone with medical marijuana not guilty of possession even when they have it because you feel the law is a bad law.

I am a very strong believer in jury nullification - IMO the jurors have not expressed the kind of sophistication that would be required to implement jury nullification. They do not seem to know the law nor the instructions. but that is JMO as a student of the concept.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 09:31:55 AM
deliberate - 

1. carefully weighed or considered; studied; intentional: a deliberate lie.
2. characterized by deliberation; careful or slow in deciding: a deliberate decision.
3. leisurely and steady in movement or action; slow and even; unhurried: a deliberate step.

Good morning Monkey's,

The jurors did not deliberate, IMO.  The jury did not weight this case, when it went to the jury.  They weighted their vacations, instead of Caylee Marie Anthony.  (anyone could figure out this).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 09:34:10 AM
Can  this case be taken to The state Supreme Court  saying that the Jury and judge was wrong,
and get this  reversed?



It happed here
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-gould-supreme-court-0709-20110708,0,2876568.story

What if they did not deliberate?  I question if they ever deliberated this case.  I wonder if they just took a vote while
eating dinner?  everything about this just does not add up. IMO  (they just wanted to get the hay out of the Hotel).

They never asked to see evidence, didn't ask the judge for clarification, apparently didn't ask for a read-back (although I'm assuming they had transcripts with them in the jury room?), never asked for any breaks as far as I recall. They didn't even take their notebooks with them, did they?  Some of them rarely (if ever) took notes.  It was just shy of 11 hours that they were actually in the jury room. This does not include time spent eating and going to the bathroom, much less picking a jury foreman, figuring out where they all stood, etc.  How does one justify so little time spent deliberating? 

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 09, 2011, 09:35:02 AM
deliberate - 

1. carefully weighed or considered; studied; intentional: a deliberate lie.
2. characterized by deliberation; careful or slow in deciding: a deliberate decision.
3. leisurely and steady in movement or action; slow and even; unhurried: a deliberate step.

Good morning Monkey's,

The jurors did not deliberate, IMO.  The jury did not weight this case, when it went to the jury.  They weighted their vacations, instead of Caylee Marie Anthony.  (anyone could figure out this).


They simply ignored everything and voted to acquit her....fastest way to get out of there and get on with their lives...meanwhile Caylee's life was taken away from her..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 09:35:10 AM
Desi...send your post to Bill O...he likes to get involved in that kind of stuff...especially when he is passionate about it..

Yes, send your WHOLE post to Bill too!!!!

 ::monkeywine2:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 09, 2011, 09:35:52 AM
-- Long Post Warning -- Disclaimer: No disrespect intended toward any political beliefs.
   ----- snipped -----


Very good post Desi.  At a minimum, they did not follow the instructions given to them.  Beyond that, they are all either incredibly stupid, or, there's some funny biz going on......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 09, 2011, 09:37:31 AM
Bill O'Reilly was ranting about exactly what we are...they ignored everything and simply went on made up theories the defense presented in opening arguements and could never prove. As he said , if this is the case and can happen then our system is truly broken...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 09:38:05 AM
Juror #3 made statement she already had her mind made before deliberating. I feel she sold Caylee Marie Anthony for a trip to Disney World for her family. Now how in god's name did the jury give a verdict at 2:15pm, then go to Disney world with her family the rest of the day? Bought off sounds like it to me.MOO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Monken on July 09, 2011, 09:41:08 AM
I posted this last night and brought it over from the other thread...Bill O'Reilly on a roll...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-oreilly-casey-anthony-juror-209259


Loved it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 09, 2011, 09:44:17 AM
I hate to say this because I dont have a link, but I read somewhere that ABC was denying paying for the Disney trip...Her own mother reported that ABC paid for it...tell me how a 32 yr old nursing student took her whole family including neices and nephews to Disney if someone else did not foot the bill...
The stupid stuff she said to O'Reilly really bothered me...she was talking about if they all three were there and stuff that was out of left field...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 09, 2011, 09:44:49 AM
I posted this last night and brought it over from the other thread...Bill O'Reilly on a roll...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-oreilly-casey-anthony-juror-209259


Loved it!

He is passionate about it!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 09, 2011, 09:47:58 AM
I have to work today...there will be alot of "I told you so's".... I am not in the mood !!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 09:49:40 AM
Juror #3 made statement she already had her mind made before deliberating. I feel she sold Caylee Marie Anthony for a trip to Disney World for her family. Now how in god's name did the jury give a verdict at 2:15pm, then go to Disney world with her family the rest of the day? Bought off sounds like it to me.MOO

Why do we bother with juries, then?  Seriously, what's the point?  Somebody called in to NG last night, basically questioned the fact that we have judges and lawyers who have to go to school and get a degree to do their jobs.. but then they present their cases to people like this.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
Juror #3 made statement she already had her mind made before deliberating. I feel she sold Caylee Marie Anthony for a trip to Disney World for her family. Now how in god's name did the jury give a verdict at 2:15pm, then go to Disney world with her family the rest of the day? Bought off sounds like it to me.MOO
I really question why ABC would do that.  Were the tickets already bought because ABC felt the case was a slam dunk for a First Degree murder conviction, and that was supposed to be a "thank you" trip? Or what?  WHY.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Missiontoconvict on July 09, 2011, 09:55:41 AM
Good morning!  Like everyone else, I've been mulling over like soundbites by Juror #3 and the alternate these past few days, astounded at the lack of critical thinking and logic.  Juror #3 said the jurors were unable to even determine who had physical custody of the child when the "accident" or whatever happened.  Uhmmm, Cindy was the phone pursuing Casey because she didn't know where Caylee was (numerous phone calls and messages over 31 days, MySpace, sending Lee to the bar scene to find Casey, showing up at Casey's "work", calling Amy after they picked up the car from the tow yard, etc.).  Lee, in both statements and depositions, clearly stated Cindy sent him looking for Casey because she hadn't seen Caylee.  Lee, in the jail video visits clearly ask Casey, "Is this like last time?"- as in clearly, Casey had taken Caylee away before in response to some grievance and not let Cindy & George see her.  George wasn't the techno-savvy one of the bunch, the closest one to Casey, nor was he allowed to handle things with Casey = so he wouldn't be in charge of the search effort.  Casey was the one claiming possession of Caylee, by her LE statements that she dropped Caylee off with the nanny.  She was also tied to that by her lies to Cindy that they (she & Caylee)were in Jacksonville. She also established herself as the primary guardian of Caylee with her numerous stories of where Caylee was because she was in contact with Zenaida, she knew where Zenaida and Caylee were in any given week.

Moreover, according to the same juror, the jury basically discounted all of Dr. Vass' testimony about the chloroform in the trunk.  Who best to believe, someone who has a lifetime of experience and an established, well-respected institute for studying dead bodies (causes of death, rate of decomposition in numerous environments, stages of decomposition,chemical processes of decompositions, etc.) or someone with far less experience?   Likewise, they did the same with the duct tape. In essence, the jury had already decided prior to deliberations, to discount Caylee's duct-taped toddler's skull solely because it didn't fit the drowning theory. Wow! IMO, they'd already decided to go with the drowning theory and so they had no questions about testimony, depositions, scientific process, and no need to further examine one shred of evidence.

Got to run-have a family function to go to.  Take good care everybody.   
What is so terribly disturbing is they went with a theory and ignored the FACTS in the case. There was no evidence presented whatsoever that this was an accident, those who have spoken seem to think it was, WHY?  Something is not right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Missiontoconvict on July 09, 2011, 09:58:38 AM
I posted this last night and brought it over from the other thread...Bill O'Reilly on a roll...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-oreilly-casey-anthony-juror-209259


Loved it!

He is passionate about it!!!!
He sure is - I sent him an email thanking him for supporting Caylee and speaking the truth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: klaasend on July 09, 2011, 09:59:54 AM
Klaas I think we need a thread  for "state by state" so to speak who is going forward in trying to pass Caylee's law. 
So we can refer back and update the DATE Caylee's Law HAS passed in each state.
It would be a no discussion thread, only info.

Pleaseeeee.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I have created a forum for Caylee's Law - by State.  I've added sub boards to it for each state.  No verbage or info has been posted but anyone who knows of what is being done in any state can go ahead and add a topic under that particular state.  I will add info as I have time but wanted to first get the boards set up (good idea Pharlap).  It is in the same area the archived trial posts are, up above in the main Caylee forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 10:04:30 AM
I haven't heard anything from the jurors so far about Cindy, but I can only conclude they must believe that Cindy also knew about what happened to Caylee and that she helped cover it up as well.  Because instead of thinking "Gee, this woman lied for her daughter to save her from the death penalty",  she must have lied because everybody was in on it.  Family dysfunction doesn't excuse not reporting a child dead or missing for 31 days. The jurors (or at least #14) have said that there was no evidence to support the sexual abuse allegation, so if they really did their jobs here (and came to the most logical conclusion), what real basis do they/we have for dysfunction beyond what most families have as to why all of this happened?  ABSOLUTELY NONE. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 10:05:21 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Watch full episode: 'Inside the Verdict'
  After weeks of media captivation, the trial of Casey Anthony reaches a controversial conclusion. Dateline NBC's Dennis Murphy reports.

Part 1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Part 2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691568
Part 3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691895
Part 4. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691737
Part 5. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692073
Part 6. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692092

Thanks trimmonthelake

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 10:12:26 AM


I have created a forum for Caylee's Law - by State.  I've added sub boards to it for each state.  No verbage or info has been posted but anyone who knows of what is being done in any state can go ahead and add a topic under that particular state.  I will add info as I have time but wanted to first get the boards set up (good idea Pharlap).  It is in the same area the archived trial posts are, up above in the main Caylee forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0



Thanks. I just added something to Ohio..  news article about the proposal here.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on July 09, 2011, 10:15:25 AM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::

The jury: WKMG-Channel 6’s Tony Pipitone said jurors had code names as “Rosen Student One,” “Rosen Student Two” and so on because they were booked into a hotel as the Rosen Transfer Students Conference. They stayed at the Rosen Shingle Creek at a rate of $112 a night for six weeks.

The jurors always traveled with deputies, court spokeswoman Karen Levey told Pipitone. Levey also explained: For the last 10 days, the jurors had no television because of the heavy Anthony trial promotion on channels such as even Cartoon Network and Syfy. Jurors had special meals at places ranging from the Citrus Club and the University Club to Tony Roma’s and Olive Garden. The food costs were nearly $25,000. The jurors went to movies, such as “Super 8″ and “Green Lantern.” The deliberating jurors declined to watch the Lake Eola fireworks but the alternates watched the holiday festivities.

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::

These brain dead jurors really thought they were special.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: klaasend on July 09, 2011, 10:17:03 AM


I have created a forum for Caylee's Law - by State.  I've added sub boards to it for each state.  No verbage or info has been posted but anyone who knows of what is being done in any state can go ahead and add a topic under that particular state.  I will add info as I have time but wanted to first get the boards set up (good idea Pharlap).  It is in the same area the archived trial posts are, up above in the main Caylee forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0



Thanks. I just added something to Ohio..  news article about the proposal here.  :)

Perfect!  I saw that and hope others do the same if they see something in their state.  Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 10:19:39 AM
Klaas I think we need a thread  for "state by state" so to speak who is going forward in trying to pass Caylee's law. 
So we can refer back and update the DATE Caylee's Law HAS passed in each state.
It would be a no discussion thread, only info.

Pleaseeeee.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I have created a forum for Caylee's Law - by State.  I've added sub boards to it for each state.  No verbage or info has been posted but anyone who knows of what is being done in any state can go ahead and add a topic under that particular state.  I will add info as I have time but wanted to first get the boards set up (good idea Pharlap).  It is in the same area the archived trial posts are, up above in the main Caylee forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0


Thanks....................................(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/pharlap_9999/Kiss-Celebration-11.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
Desdemona ~ We are on the same page. Everything you painstakingly typed out & researched is exactly what I've been trying to say for weeks! ACLU, NCADP, Amnesty Intl, Amnesty USA, thelistgoesonandon!

I posted a link to the major media corps and all their companies on the last thread. Some, dare I say most, are anti dp. The head honcho for TruTV is also the bigwig for one of America's most influential anti dp groups. He also has most Time-Warner shares, Friends with ABC/Disney honchos, the list goes on & on.

We need to ask ourselves who benefitted the most from this case. Which station kept it at the forefront, above others that were missing? There were alot of missing children cases filed over the past few years, but this case always remained on top. Always. I believe it's bc Caylee is adorable & had a nice looking mother that exuded sexuality. It sells ratings. The dysfunctional Anthony family dynamics make the story addicting to reality tv viewing America. Casey's numerous relationships made this story salacious. The horrific despicable way Caylee was duct taped & discarded, while her mother was out galavanting for a month, brought out emotions in the majority of people world wide. The lies, oh the lies, they never stopped coming at us. Defamation ensued. It was a juicy story that everybody bought into for a plethora of reasons.

However, I am bitter bc our feelings were preyed upon while others reaped the reward of wealth. One cable tv news diva landed her own show bc of the ratings boost they got whenever she covered Caylee's case. This same cable company that is linked to one of the biggest anti dp advocates in our world.

These same groups of people, in my humble opinion, helped Casey's Defense. Anybody who was ever discreminated against, anybody with strong religious convictions, anybody with a criminal or salacious past could resonate with Casey. Their feelings & convictions were utilized.

I strongly believe if the death penalty wasn't brought to the table, Casey would be serving 25 years to life for the death & discard of her daughter. As much as any of us want Casey convicted for Caylee's death, and as heinous the crime scene was, there were still holes.

Most people that are pro dp are only for it if the evidence is 100% against the perp. In this case, while we all believe Casey & only Casey was involved in Caylee's demise, it couldn't be proven that George, Cindy or Lee didn't contribute to something. Anything. For that reason alone, I believe if the dp wasn't put on the table as punishment, Casey would be serving many years in prison, maybe members of her family too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: lilme on July 09, 2011, 10:24:41 AM
I loved the Rascal Flatts tribute to Caylee.  Someone may have already suggested this I cant keep up!  I know I am asking for a lot - I wish they would donate the money made on this to purchase that property where she was found and build a memorial park on it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 10:24:54 AM
I realize Wikipedia isn't the greatest source of information, but check this out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson#Trial

"The only piece of forensic evidence identified was a single hair, thought to belong to Laci, found in a pair of pliers from Peterson's boat."[13]

"Autopsies were performed, but due to decomposition the specific cause of death could not be determined. The medical examiner did note that Laci had suffered some broken ribs (the 5th, 6th, and 9th ribs) prior to her death; these injuries were not caused by the body dragging along the rocks in the bay."

"In later press appearances, members of the jury stated that they felt that Peterson's demeanor—specifically, his lack of emotion, and the phone calls to Amber Frey in the days following Laci's disappearance—indicated that he was guilty. They based their verdict on "hundreds of small 'puzzle pieces' of circumstantial evidence that came out during the trial, from the location of Laci Peterson's body to the myriad lies her husband told after her disappearance." They also decided on the death penalty because they felt Peterson betrayed his responsibility to protect his wife and son.[26]"

I just ask myself..  when it come down to it, how is Casey's case any different? It's mostly circumstantial (though in Lacy's case there is evidence of trauma prior to death), but I believe the evidence here equally suggests Casey is as guilty as sin, and that these jurors didn't bother to do their due diligence. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 09, 2011, 10:25:10 AM


I have created a forum for Caylee's Law - by State.  I've added sub boards to it for each state.  No verbage or info has been posted but anyone who knows of what is being done in any state can go ahead and add a topic under that particular state.  I will add info as I have time but wanted to first get the boards set up (good idea Pharlap).  It is in the same area the archived trial posts are, up above in the main Caylee forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0



Thanks. I just added something to Ohio..  news article about the proposal here.  :)

Perfect!  I saw that and hope others do the same if they see something in their state.  Thank you!

Just added what I know about TX.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:25:46 AM
 ::HelloKitty::

Forgot my manners... Good morning TexasBarMom, slowsouthernrain, Missiontoconvict, AZSunny, Airlinemonkey, chi-monkey, seemeatthebeach, lilme, codemonkey, mamolie, anothermonkey, klaasend, shutterblog, ladydi, michelete2, FormerFLGirl, Rosenut and 55 Guests.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: lilme on July 09, 2011, 10:27:16 AM
::HelloKitty::

Forgot my manners... Good morning TexasBarMom, slowsouthernrain, Missiontoconvict, AZSunny, Airlinemonkey, chi-monkey, seemeatthebeach, lilme, codemonkey, mamolie, anothermonkey, klaasend, shutterblog, ladydi, michelete2, FormerFLGirl, Rosenut and 55 Guests.

good morning!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:28:53 AM
I posted this last night and brought it over from the other thread...Bill O'Reilly on a roll...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-oreilly-casey-anthony-juror-209259

I've always loved his show! He's so intelligent, sarcastically funny, political...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: ladydi on July 09, 2011, 10:29:19 AM
I posted this last night and brought it over from the other thread...Bill O'Reilly on a roll...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-oreilly-casey-anthony-juror-209259

He sure nailed that...!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 09, 2011, 10:30:07 AM
::HelloKitty::

Forgot my manners... Good morning TexasBarMom, slowsouthernrain, Missiontoconvict, AZSunny, Airlinemonkey, chi-monkey, seemeatthebeach, lilme, codemonkey, mamolie, anothermonkey, klaasend, shutterblog, ladydi, michelete2, FormerFLGirl, Rosenut and 55 Guests.


Morning everyone!
(I'll confess to a lack of manners as well, but sometimes this thing moves so fast!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2011, 10:45:26 AM
http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/crime/professor-stands-by-his-evidence-in-casey-anthony-trial
(http://media2.wlfi.com//photo/2011/07/08/Neal_Haskell_20110708234638_320_240.JPG)
Professor stands by his evidence in Casey Anthony trial
Dr. Haskell "shocked" by verdict
Updated: Saturday, 09 Jul 2011, 12:08 AM EDT
Published : Friday, 08 Jul 2011, 11:52 PM EDT

RENSSELAER, Ind. (WLFI) - A forensic science professor from Rensselaer said he, like many others, were shocked at the outcome of the Casey Anthony trial this week.
 ::snipping2::

Once thing that is so disturbing about this verdict.. the state put on excellent witnesses who really know their stuff.  Baez put on a bunch of whack-a-doodles, and he still got his client off scott free.  How the hell does this happen?  I feel bad for this Dr. and the many others who took this case seriously.  They didn't spout of nonsense about coyotes, and act sloshed (or completely full of themselves) up on the stand. 
good morning.. that is just another thing that has me shaking my head and sighing deeply.... it was the pros vs the clown show and the clowns prevailed.. wtf???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 09, 2011, 10:56:40 AM
883,475
http://www.change.org/petitions/create-caylees-law


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Monken on July 09, 2011, 11:04:44 AM
Klaas, Red, or someone, please delete the first two entries i made under Mississippi for caylee's law, they were the wrong ones! I am about to post there the correct links to the mississippi petition for everyone to sign, Thank You! Monken

Monken, go ahead and post what you need to.  See my moderator's note in the Mississippi thread.  Muffy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 11:05:37 AM
Klaas I think we need a thread  for "state by state" so to speak who is going forward in trying to pass Caylee's law. 
So we can refer back and update the DATE Caylee's Law HAS passed in each state.
It would be a no discussion thread, only info.

Pleaseeeee.. ::MonkeyAngel::
I have created a forum for Caylee's Law - by State.  I've added sub boards to it for each state.  No verbage or info has been posted but anyone who knows of what is being done in any state can go ahead and add a topic under that particular state.  I will add info as I have time but wanted to first get the boards set up (good idea Pharlap).  It is in the same area the archived trial posts are, up above in the main Caylee forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0

Great idea ... all contact info will be put in this so that we shall have the info needed for everyone to provide Justice for Caylee.

Do not let this little girl die in vane. We have not yet to fight Monkeys. This is not over by a long shot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:06:05 AM
deliberate - 

1. carefully weighed or considered; studied; intentional: a deliberate lie.
2. characterized by deliberation; careful or slow in deciding: a deliberate decision.
3. leisurely and steady in movement or action; slow and even; unhurried: a deliberate step.

Good morning Monkey's,

The jurors did not deliberate, IMO.  The jury did not weight this case, when it went to the jury.  They weighted their vacations, instead of Caylee Marie Anthony.  (anyone could figure out this).


Agree with you!

http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=Reasoning&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
rea·son·ing
[ree-zuh-ning, reez-ning]
- noun 1. the act or process of a person who reasons 2. the process of forming conclusions, judgments, or inferences from facts or premises 3. the reasons, arguments, proofs, etc., resulting from this process
- Related Forms    non·rea·son·ing- adjective    rea·son·ing·ly- adverb
rea·son
[ree-zuhn]
- noun 1. cause for a belief, act, etc. 2. sound judgment 3. sanity - verb (used without object) 4. to think or argue logically - verb (used with object) 5. to infer
- Related Forms    sub·rea·son- noun    out·rea·son- verb (used with object)


http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=Logic&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
log·ic
[loj-ik]
- noun 1. science or method of reasoning


http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=Common+sense&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
common sense
- noun 1. sound practical judgment
- Related Forms    com·mon·sen·si·ble- adjective    com·mon·sen·si·bly- adverb


http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=Judge&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
judge
[juhj]
- noun 1. public officer who hears and decides cases in a court of law 2. person who decides who has won a contest 3. person able to pass critical judgment - verb (used with object)judgedjudging 4. to pass legal judgment on 5. to form an opinion about - verb (used without object)judgedjudging 6. to act as a judge
- Related Forms    well-judged- adjective    judg·ing·ly- adverb    un·der·judge- noun    re·judge- verb    un·der·judge- verb (used with object)


http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=Jury&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
ju·ry
[joor-ee]
- noun, plural-ries 1. group of persons selected to make a decision, esp. in a law court


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:15:59 AM
Klaas I think we need a thread  for "state by state" so to speak who is going forward in trying to pass Caylee's law. 
So we can refer back and update the DATE Caylee's Law HAS passed in each state.
It would be a no discussion thread, only info.

Pleaseeeee.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I have created a forum for Caylee's Law - by State.  I've added sub boards to it for each state.  No verbage or info has been posted but anyone who knows of what is being done in any state can go ahead and add a topic under that particular state.  I will add info as I have time but wanted to first get the boards set up (good idea Pharlap).  It is in the same area the archived trial posts are, up above in the main Caylee forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0



Thank you Klaas.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Monken on July 09, 2011, 11:16:55 AM
Klaas, Red, or someone, please delete the first two entries i made under Mississippi for caylee's law, they were the wrong ones! I am about to post there the correct links to the mississippi petition for everyone to sign, Thank You! Monken

Monken, go ahead and post what you need to.  See my moderator's note in the Mississippi thread.  Muffy


Thank you Muffy!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 11:18:11 AM
TRACY MCLAUGHLIN

DR. DREW
After the Anthony Verdict; Inside the Anthony Home
Aired July 8, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

PINSKY: Well, you`re someone that has spent time with her and very few people have. What do you went down? What happened?

MCLAUGHLIN: What I think happened is she got in a fight with her mom. Cindy confronted her about stealing money from her grandmother. I think that`s coming out a little bit right now, but she got in a fight. I do believe she used chloroform. And in a fit of anger -- this is where I can`t guess if it was accidental. I mean, who should be putting chloroform to their child`s mouth in the first place? Accidental or on purpose. Put it in there.

PINSKY: And then, she, herself, disposed of the body?

MCLAUGHLIN: Yes. Well, she kept her in her trunk. To me, it`s so easy to figure out. Kept her in trunk, panicked, brought it back to the house, that`s when the duct tape went on, and that`s when the heart sticker - kidnapping, that`s what I`m going to do. That`s what she thought about. You know, had it in a trunk bag so it wasn`t smelling like, you know, people -- some friends had been by her car and they said they didn`t smell it. Well, OK, it didn`t smell yet.

When George almost got to the trunk with her gas cans, and she threw the gas cans out of -- I think she panicked then. Went down to her little spot, threw the body out, I think, the bag ripped, and that`s when that`s, you know, horrendous, smell was strong.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/08/ddhln.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Babybear on July 09, 2011, 11:18:37 AM
http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/crime/professor-stands-by-his-evidence-in-casey-anthony-trial
(http://media2.wlfi.com//photo/2011/07/08/Neal_Haskell_20110708234638_320_240.JPG)
Professor stands by his evidence in Casey Anthony trial
Dr. Haskell "shocked" by verdict
Updated: Saturday, 09 Jul 2011, 12:08 AM EDT
Published : Friday, 08 Jul 2011, 11:52 PM EDT

RENSSELAER, Ind. (WLFI) - A forensic science professor from Rensselaer said he, like many others, were shocked at the outcome of the Casey Anthony trial this week.
 ::snipping2::

Once thing that is so disturbing about this verdict.. the state put on excellent witnesses who really know their stuff.  Baez put on a bunch of whack-a-doodles, and he still got his client off scott free.  How the hell does this happen?  I feel bad for this Dr. and the many others who took this case seriously.  They didn't spout of nonsense about coyotes, and act sloshed (or completely full of themselves) up on the stand. 
good morning.. that is just another thing that has me shaking my head and sighing deeply.... it was the pros vs the clown show and the clowns prevailed.. wtf???

Good morning Peeps--- Well, Flamom, Everybody loves a circus, apparently the 12 clowns who were together and called a jury loves a circus a lot and wanted to join this one. 

As I recall, the judge said that he, Baez and Mason would get together and decide how many more days Casey Anthony would have to serve. He said it should take about an hour. They came up with July 13th.  Now they say July 17th.  Does anyone believe that a judge and two lawyers would make such an elementary mistake?  I don't.  I think changing the public date is another hoax among many in this case and she will not be released on the 17th, but earlier.  IMO it's just another example of bending over backwards to accommodate Casey Anthony and protect her from facing any unpleasantness.  After all, she's a million dollar baby now.  But to me, she will always be a piece of worthless trash and so will her family who cooked up the whole scheme, IMO.  Baez isn't that smart.  But it is just desserts that Casey will have nothing to do with them now that the plan worked.  Poetic justice.  Too bad, Cindy.  I think she's slipped out of your grasp. And she's gonna be very, very rich.  But Cindy won't get any.
I love to see chickens coming home to roost.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:18:39 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Watch full episode: 'Inside the Verdict'
  After weeks of media captivation, the trial of Casey Anthony reaches a controversial conclusion. Dateline NBC's Dennis Murphy reports.

Part 1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Part 2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691568
Part 3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691895
Part 4. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691737
Part 5. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692073
Part 6. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692092

Thanks trimmonthelake

Janet

Thank you Trimm!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 09, 2011, 11:23:59 AM
If you have not yet contacted your representative and senator..here's 2 easy links...easy instructions


https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml house

http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm senate.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 11:27:04 AM
Why was Tracy McLaughlin not called as a prosecution witness to testify.  Tracy account is not hearsay.  Tracy was there.  She observed.  She heard.

Tracy's testimony could have disputed the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was present when Caylee drowned ... the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was a participant in the disposal of Caylee's remains.

Janet

+++++


TRACY MCLAUGHLIN

DR. DREW
After the Anthony Verdict; Inside the Anthony Home
Aired July 8, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

MCLAUGHLIN: We had -- I`ll go back to -- the first morning I was there, I woke up to George screaming at Casey.

PINSKY: The first morning?

MCLAUGHLIN: The very first morning.

PINSKY: What was he screaming about?

MCLAUGHLIN: "Where is my granddaughter? What have you done with her? I know you`re lying. Quit lying."

It was just this huge deal. "Quit lying to me. Where`s my granddaughter?"

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/08/ddhln.01.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: lilme on July 09, 2011, 11:38:51 AM
If you have not yet contacted your representative and senator..here's 2 easy links...easy instructions


https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml house

http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm senate.
I sent to house.  But looks like the senate link is not a good one. Edit -correction per lilme, the link works.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 11:38:59 AM
If you have not yet contacted your representative and senator..here's 2 easy links...easy instructions


https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml house

http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm senate.

Thank You!!
Was on line trying to find this stuff......
Sent 2 letters out......
 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 11:40:23 AM
http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/crime/professor-stands-by-his-evidence-in-casey-anthony-trial
(http://media2.wlfi.com//photo/2011/07/08/Neal_Haskell_20110708234638_320_240.JPG)
Professor stands by his evidence in Casey Anthony trial
Dr. Haskell "shocked" by verdict
Updated: Saturday, 09 Jul 2011, 12:08 AM EDT
Published : Friday, 08 Jul 2011, 11:52 PM EDT

RENSSELAER, Ind. (WLFI) - A forensic science professor from Rensselaer said he, like many others, were shocked at the outcome of the Casey Anthony trial this week.
 ::snipping2::

Once thing that is so disturbing about this verdict.. the state put on excellent witnesses who really know their stuff.  Baez put on a bunch of whack-a-doodles, and he still got his client off scott free.  How the hell does this happen?  I feel bad for this Dr. and the many others who took this case seriously.  They didn't spout of nonsense about coyotes, and act sloshed (or completely full of themselves) up on the stand. 
good morning.. that is just another thing that has me shaking my head and sighing deeply.... it was the pros vs the clown show and the clowns prevailed.. wtf???

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

BIG SIGH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: lilme on July 09, 2011, 11:42:49 AM
If you have not yet contacted your representative and senator..here's 2 easy links...easy instructions


https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml house

http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm senate.
I sent to house.  But looks like the senate link is not a good one. Edit to correct per lilme.  The link does work. 
oops my bad I really made a mess of that didn't I.  Link does work


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2011, 11:43:01 AM
Why was Tracy McLaughlin not called as a prosecution witness to testify.  Tracy account is not hearsay.  Tracy was there.  She observed.  She heard.

Tracy's testimony could have disputed the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was present when Caylee drowned ... the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was a participant in the disposal of Caylee's remains.

Janet

+++++


TRACY MCLAUGHLIN

DR. DREW
After the Anthony Verdict; Inside the Anthony Home
Aired July 8, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

MCLAUGHLIN: We had -- I`ll go back to -- the first morning I was there, I woke up to George screaming at Casey.

PINSKY: The first morning?

MCLAUGHLIN: The very first morning.

PINSKY: What was he screaming about?

MCLAUGHLIN: "Where is my granddaughter? What have you done with her? I know you`re lying. Quit lying."

It was just this huge deal. "Quit lying to me. Where`s my granddaughter?"

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/08/ddhln.01.html

I watched that last night.. didnt move, didnt type.. she had my total attention and it was chilling..she had Tracy put the wristwatch on her ankle so they would match..wtf???
I seem to be thinking and writing wtf alot lately

Babybear, Bobo fumbled, faked, lied and lazyassed his way to a 'win'... I despise him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: 4 Donks on July 09, 2011, 11:45:52 AM
Just posted on Alabama. A bill will be introduced in the next session.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 11:46:55 AM
Klaas I think we need a thread  for "state by state" so to speak who is going forward in trying to pass Caylee's law. 
So we can refer back and update the DATE Caylee's Law HAS passed in each state.
It would be a no discussion thread, only info.

Pleaseeeee.. ::MonkeyAngel::
I have created a forum for Caylee's Law - by State.  I've added sub boards to it for each state.  No verbage or info has been posted but anyone who knows of what is being done in any state can go ahead and add a topic under that particular state.  I will add info as I have time but wanted to first get the boards set up (good idea Pharlap).  It is in the same area the archived trial posts are, up above in the main Caylee forum.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0

Great idea ... all contact info will be put in this so that we shall have the info needed for everyone to provide Justice for Caylee.

Do not let this little girl die in vane. We have not yet to fight Monkeys. This is not over by a long shot.
I will be calling N.Carolina's Government office to see what we are doing on this law, I am also praying that if it is past they will be able to apply it to AB and EB for not reporting poor Zahra does anyone know if this will be possible?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on July 09, 2011, 11:49:16 AM
TRACY MCLAUGHLIN

DR. DREW
After the Anthony Verdict; Inside the Anthony Home
Aired July 8, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

PINSKY: Well, you`re someone that has spent time with her and very few people have. What do you went down? What happened?

MCLAUGHLIN: What I think happened is she got in a fight with her mom. Cindy confronted her about stealing money from her grandmother. I think that`s coming out a little bit right now, but she got in a fight. I do believe she used chloroform. And in a fit of anger -- this is where I can`t guess if it was accidental. I mean, who should be putting chloroform to their child`s mouth in the first place? Accidental or on purpose. Put it in there.

PINSKY: And then, she, herself, disposed of the body?

MCLAUGHLIN: Yes. Well, she kept her in her trunk. To me, it`s so easy to figure out. Kept her in trunk, panicked, brought it back to the house, that`s when the duct tape went on, and that`s when the heart sticker - kidnapping, that`s what I`m going to do. That`s what she thought about. You know, had it in a trunk bag so it wasn`t smelling like, you know, people -- some friends had been by her car and they said they didn`t smell it. Well, OK, it didn`t smell yet.

When George almost got to the trunk with her gas cans, and she threw the gas cans out of -- I think she panicked then. Went down to her little spot, threw the body out, I think, the bag ripped, and that`s when that`s, you know, horrendous, smell was strong.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/08/ddhln.01.html


I do agree with her wrt June 24th dumping Caylee's remains. When George was home and wanted his gas cans, KC panicked, drove down to Suburban Drive, threw the bags into the woods/swamp, drove back & threw the gas cans @ George and said "here's your *edit language* gas cans".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:49:32 AM
Why was Tracy McLaughlin not called as a prosecution witness to testify.  Tracy account is not hearsay.  Tracy was there.  She observed.  She heard.

Tracy's testimony could have disputed the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was present when Caylee drowned ... the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was a participant in the disposal of Caylee's remains.

Janet

+++++


TRACY MCLAUGHLIN

DR. DREW
After the Anthony Verdict; Inside the Anthony Home
Aired July 8, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

MCLAUGHLIN: We had -- I`ll go back to -- the first morning I was there, I woke up to George screaming at Casey.

PINSKY: The first morning?

MCLAUGHLIN: The very first morning.

PINSKY: What was he screaming about?

MCLAUGHLIN: "Where is my granddaughter? What have you done with her? I know you`re lying. Quit lying."

It was just this huge deal. "Quit lying to me. Where`s my granddaughter?"

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/08/ddhln.01.html

I watched that last night.. didnt move, didnt type.. she had my total attention and it was chilling..she had Tracy put the wristwatch on her ankle so they would match..wtf???
I seem to be thinking and writing wtf alot lately

Babybear, Bobo fumbled, faked, lied and lazyassed his way to a 'win'... I despise him


Ditto!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 11:52:53 AM
Just posted on Alabama. A bill will be introduced in the next session.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Curly on July 09, 2011, 11:53:20 AM
Just posted on Alabama. A bill will be introduced in the next session.

I just did in NY.

My question is: when are the next sessions?
I thought I read the other day that Florida's next session isn't until Feb. 2012.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:56:03 AM
Whatever. Some monkeys may find this interesting... I'll post the whole section since FIJA hands this stuff out all the time.

http://nowscape.com/fija/_conjur.htm

FACING CHARGES AND CONSIDERING TRIAL BY JURY?

The following is not intended to substitute for competent legal assistance, nor is it to be construed as specific legal advice. However, we offer some observations which may be of general interest.

Ask to sign the relevant paperwork for a jury trial immediately upon being charged. You can decide not to follow through later on, but it's not always possible to regain your right to trial by jury once it's been lost.

The prosecutor may pressure you to accept a plea bargain, perhaps by threatening to escalate or multiply charges if you do not accept, or by assuring you that if you go before a jury, and lose, the punishment will be much worse than if they make a deal.

You may wish to resist such intimidation, if you believe injustice is being done to you. Consider that if you plead guilty to breaking an unpopular law, you lengthen the time that you and everyone else will be subject to it, because neither you nor a jury will have an opportunity to express your opinion of it. And if your plea "bargain" includes a felony count, you're also giving up--without a fight--your right to vote, or serve on a jury, hold public office, or own a firearm.

The so-called "FIJA defense", in which activists make a deliberate attempt to educate your trial jurors in their right to judge the law itself, and to vote on the verdict according to conscience, is gaining in popularity and effectiveness. We see more and more "hung juries" and outright acquittals of individuals charged with violating unpopular (usually political, or victimless crime) laws, or who were subjected to unconstitutional police procedures.

The first phase is to create an awareness in the community about the real extent of the power that jurors wield; the next is to supply detailed information directly to the jurors who will actually hear your case. The first phase can be done by calling in to radio talk shows, writing letters to the editor, leafleting, advertising--whatever your time and money will permit. The second is best done by getting friends, family, or fellow FIJA activists to show up at the courthouse when your jury is being selected, to hand "True or False?" or other materials to the incoming jury pool--which usually means being there from about 7:30 to 9:00 am.

Occasionally, leafleters will be hassled by the authorities, but to date no one has been convicted of anything for passing out FIJA brochures. In US v. Grace, 1983, the Supreme Court determined that the sidewalks around a courthouse are a "free speech zone", and it seems that the word has gotten around to most of the nation's courts, punctuated by the fact that in those few cases where arrests have been made, the authorities are now facing lawsuits...ore perhaps it's merely that prosecutors have reasoned (correctly) that if they arrest FIJA leafleters, the leaflets will have to be given to the leafleter's own jury as evidence...

You can also spread information which argues that the law you're accused of breaking is a poor one, at the same time you inform people about jury power. FIJA "combines well" with many "causes", especially those which involve reforming laws, although FIJA doesn't itself take sides on any law. NOTE: Distributing material pertaining to a particular law or case may increase the chances of being charged with jury tampering, so proceed at your own risk. We recommend that you only distribute FIJA literature in front of the courthouse.

You may be accused of an offense which does not invoke your right to trial by jury itself. FIJA has future plans to deal with this gross violation of your individual rights, but for the moment there is little that can be done. If you plan to break a law of one kind or another and "fight for justice in the courts" on behalf of one cause or another, therefore, it will pay you to check ahead of time to see what kind of offense you'll have to commit in order to get a trial by jury--and then make sure that jury is fully informed.

And don't expect it to be easy to make your argument in court. You may not even be allowed to tell the jury why you did it, let alone what's wrong with the law or what the Constitution says. The jury will hear and see only the evidence and testimony allowed by the judge, and further restricted by the prosecutor. And you'll be facing jurors who have been both told and sworn by the judge to "follow the law as given", and told they "should" (sometimes even "must") find you guilty if the evidence supports a conviction.

Under these circumstances, about the only way to "inform" the jury, once in court, is to hint at their power during voir dire (jury selection), then explain it during closing arguments--at least until the gavel slams down and you're threatened with contempt of court if you or your attorney continues! Take heed: contempt of court charges do not entail a trial by jury, just a show-cause hearing and judgment by the bench!

You're not so likely to be stopped or threatened with contempt if you use part of your jury selection time, opening and especially closing remarks to remind your jurors about their role as the "conscience of the community", how the jury is an important player in our system of justice, that the jury stands as an important buffer between the accused person and the power of the government, and that these are the reasons America uses jurors, not computers, to judge a case.

In short, without hitting the nail on the head and therefore being silenced, you're saying things which can help the jurors gain self confidence and a sense of power and independence--and gambling that some of them may begin considering about why they're there. Besides, everything you're saying is not only true, it shows your respect for the jurors and the jury system, which is something the prosecution is not likely to do.

If you need more information on how to inform your jurors during the trial, FIJA stocks and sells tapes of talks on the subject by attorney Tony Serra and law professor Steve Herzberg. They're intended primarily for other attorneys, but that could include your attorney--or you, if you plan to defend yourself pro se or pro per. To order, call FIJA National Headquarters at 406-793-5550. Or, if time is not of the essence, call FIJA's toll-free introductory information line, 1-800-TEL-JURY. After a short taped message, leave your name and address, and you will receive hard copy of this and other articles contained in the FIJA "Jury Power Information Kit", complete with an order blank which includes not only the tapes mentioned above, but many other useful materials and supplies.

Finally, if what you want from your jury trial is justice, then FIJA wishes you every success!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on July 09, 2011, 11:56:06 AM
'Caylee's Law' Bill Planned In Pa.

PHILADELPHIA - There is a push for a federal "Caylee's law" making it a felony for parents to not report a missing child.

In the wake of Casey Anthony's acquittal on the most serious charges related to her daughter's death, "Caylee's law" has gained over 330,000 signatures on Change.org.

The petition was created by Michelle Crowder, of Oklahoma. In addition to making prompt notification of missing children mandatory, the petition also calls for strict penalties when parents do not quickly report the death of a child.

There are some questions about constitutionality of it.

But Philadelphia state Sen. Larry Farnese said on Facebook he plans to introduce his own "Caylee's law" legislation right here in Pennsylvania.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 09, 2011, 11:56:11 AM
If you have not yet contacted your representative and senator..here's 2 easy links...easy instructions


https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml house (https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml house)

http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm senate (http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm senate)
I sent to house.  But looks like the senate link is not a good one. Edit-link is correct

thanks...I reported it....however if you go to the top right of the page...there's a box that says find you senators....there's a drop down ....find your state and then click GO...it will take you to your senator's link.....click where it says web form and that will take you to your senator's contact page...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: 4 Donks on July 09, 2011, 11:57:47 AM
Just posted on Alabama. A bill will be introduced in the next session.

I just did in NY.

My question is: when are the next sessions?
I thought I read the other day that Florida's next session isn't until Feb. 2012.

The Rep introducing the bill in Alabama will introduce it in the next regular session in 2012 or if a special session is called before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2011, 11:58:32 AM
On my out to go do something positive for my family. See y'all later
Love you Monkeys!!  ::boxinggeraldo2::  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: lilme on July 09, 2011, 11:59:05 AM
Klaasend, would you please remove my post stating Senate link is not good.  It does state error 404 when you click on it but it works. I don't want others to be confused. Please.  Thank you!!!  Edited to correct. MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 11:59:31 AM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::

The jury: WKMG-Channel 6’s Tony Pipitone said jurors had code names as “Rosen Student One,” “Rosen Student Two” and so on because they were booked into a hotel as the Rosen Transfer Students Conference. They stayed at the Rosen Shingle Creek at a rate of $112 a night for six weeks.

The jurors always traveled with deputies, court spokeswoman Karen Levey told Pipitone. Levey also explained: For the last 10 days, the jurors had no television because of the heavy Anthony trial promotion on channels such as even Cartoon Network and Syfy. Jurors had special meals at places ranging from the Citrus Club and the University Club to Tony Roma’s and Olive Garden. The food costs were nearly $25,000. The jurors went to movies, such as “Super 8″ and “Green Lantern.” The deliberating jurors declined to watch the Lake Eola fireworks but the alternates watched the holiday festivities.

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::

These brain dead jurors really thought they were special.......


This is why the former Juror (in Italy) missed the "fun" back in the jury Hotel.  She needs to pay for special meals on vacation.:)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: lilme on July 09, 2011, 12:00:58 PM
I have not seen anything about my state but I did send my letters! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 12:01:17 PM
Re my last long post which is from FIJA:

I believe this jury was tampered with before selection.

I believe there were outspoken activists planted for jury selection.

I believe human rights activists & anti dp advocates worked in coordination with the Defense.

I believe there is a reason Baez was able to bring in Simms, Finnell, Bolin & Mason and I believe they all have a common link to A. Lyons.

I believe an injustice has just been served on a silver platter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 12:02:35 PM
I loved the Rascal Flatts tribute to Caylee.  Someone may have already suggested this I cant keep up!  I know I am asking for a lot - I wish they would donate the money made on this to purchase that property where she was found and build a memorial park on it. 

I think I have some connection to some folks who know Rascal Flatts. I am making every effort to contact them to become the face of this effort for caylee's law. RF are just huge in the Country music industry, in the US and world.

Sadly, most laws like Caylee's law are done by the parents or family members like Megan's law, the Amber Alert and Jessica's law. However, in this case, it takes others outside the family to provide JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE as the Anthony family only appears to want to copyright the phrase, not actually do anything about it.

Monkeys, we need your perseverance more than ever. Turn that anger in what happened to Caylee and this misguided jury into something that will protect children an eternity.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 12:03:08 PM
On my out to go do something positive for my family. See y'all later
Love you Monkeys!!  ::boxinggeraldo2::  ::boxingbaez2::  ::boxingcasey2::

We heart you too flamom. Have a beautiful day!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 12:05:53 PM
http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/crime/professor-stands-by-his-evidence-in-casey-anthony-trial
(http://media2.wlfi.com//photo/2011/07/08/Neal_Haskell_20110708234638_320_240.JPG)
Professor stands by his evidence in Casey Anthony trial
Dr. Haskell "shocked" by verdict
Updated: Saturday, 09 Jul 2011, 12:08 AM EDT
Published : Friday, 08 Jul 2011, 11:52 PM EDT

RENSSELAER, Ind. (WLFI) - A forensic science professor from Rensselaer said he, like many others, were shocked at the outcome of the Casey Anthony trial this week.
 ::snipping2::

Once thing that is so disturbing about this verdict.. the state put on excellent witnesses who really know their stuff.  Baez put on a bunch of whack-a-doodles, and he still got his client off scott free.  How the hell does this happen?  I feel bad for this Dr. and the many others who took this case seriously.  They didn't spout of nonsense about coyotes, and act sloshed (or completely full of themselves) up on the stand. 
good morning.. that is just another thing that has me shaking my head and sighing deeply.... it was the pros vs the clown show and the clowns prevailed.. wtf???

Good morning Peeps--- Well, Flamom, Everybody loves a circus, apparently the 12 clowns who were together and called a jury loves a circus a lot and wanted to join this one. 

As I recall, the judge said that he, Baez and Mason would get together and decide how many more days Casey Anthony would have to serve. He said it should take about an hour. They came up with July 13th.  Now they say July 17th.  Does anyone believe that a judge and two lawyers would make such an elementary mistake?  I don't.  I think changing the public date is another hoax among many in this case and she will not be released on the 17th, but earlier.  IMO it's just another example of bending over backwards to accommodate Casey Anthony and protect her from facing any unpleasantness.  After all, she's a million dollar baby now.  But to me, she will always be a piece of worthless trash and so will her family who cooked up the whole scheme, IMO.  Baez isn't that smart.  But it is just desserts that Casey will have nothing to do with them now that the plan worked.  Poetic justice.  Too bad, Cindy.  I think she's slipped out of your grasp. And she's gonna be very, very rich.  But Cindy won't get any.
I love to see chickens coming home to roost.   

why would she stay with Cindy when her disability check isn't worth stealing?  She has Mason with a much bigger wallet & easier to get to!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 12:07:24 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Watch full episode: 'Inside the Verdict'
  After weeks of media captivation, the trial of Casey Anthony reaches a controversial conclusion. Dateline NBC's Dennis Murphy reports.

Part 1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Part 2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691568
Part 3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691895
Part 4. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691737
Part 5. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692073
Part 6. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692092

Thanks trimmonthelake

Janet

I watched last night something on TV, I was so mesmerized - I did not pay attention to the station.
Did I hear granny say, "She must have hated her mother more than she loved her daughter"?
The statement stuck in my heart like a stake.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 12:09:14 PM
Re my last long post which is from FIJA:

I believe this jury was tampered with before selection.

I believe there were outspoken activists planted for jury selection.

I believe human rights activists & anti dp advocates worked in coordination with the Defense.

I believe there is a reason Baez was able to bring in Simms, Finnell, Bolin & Mason and I believe they all have a common link to A. Lyons.

I believe an injustice has just been served on a silver platter.


Titch,

I believe they wanted to go on vacation :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
The more i hear Jesse Grund's story of being on the coach with Casey when Cindy and Casey got into it where Cindy called her a failure ... "why would you ever want to be with someone who is a failure and can't even afford to pay me back ..."

It was Cindy who basically made Casey have Caylee. You cannot tell me that in some way Casey did not kill Caylee out of spite to get even with Cindy. She knew that Caylee was loved more than her by Cindy & George.

This is why she was so able to go out and party for 31 days and do nothing as we know now Casey knew all along that Caylee was dead and where she was. The fact that the jury could not figure this out defies logic.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
Just posted on Alabama. A bill will be introduced in the next session.

I just did in NY.

My question is: when are the next sessions?
I thought I read the other day that Florida's next session isn't until Feb. 2012.

The Rep introducing the bill in Alabama will introduce it in the next regular session in 2012 or if a special session is called before.

Have to stay on top of them, put a fire under their butts....
Would they want to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on court cases in the future. 
PLUS this law would help cut down child trafficking.  How much is spent on that each year, I have no clue...

 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 09, 2011, 12:14:28 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/09/casey-anthony-jerry-springer-show-million-dollar-offer/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/09/casey-anthony-jerry-springer-show-million-dollar-offer/)

"Jerry was his usual jovial self yesterday when he explained he thought Casey shouldn't profit from what she did (or didn't do). Jerry said very directly, "God as my witness, I would never interview her. You could pay me the million dollars, I wouldn't do it."

LOL  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 12:15:35 PM
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20110709/APA/1107090645
Anger over Casey Anthony verdict pours out online
By KYLE HIGHTOWER and MATT SEDENSKY
Associated Press
Published: Saturday, July 9, 2011 at 10:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Saturday, July 9, 2011 at 10:30 a.m.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 12:17:34 PM
Is it possible that Baez worked with ABC for the first juror interview in the event of a not guilty verdict?  The juror(s) were told (obviously I'm reaching here - but could still happen) after selected but before sequestered. That "trip" and others were in the back of their minds.  Or even someone working for ABC etc got to a juror.  Let's face it.  An interview with a "Not Guilty" juror pulls alot more viewers than a "Guilty" one.  I think someone should look into the time they were selected to the time they were sequestered.  Heck look into them all - bank accounts & everything.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 12:17:50 PM
 ::MonkeyMad::
Sorry, while FIJA may be interesting to a point, I do not agree with their organization. Edit to remove derisive remarks about some religious groups.  It's okay to disagree, but not okay to disparage them.  MB

I believe if someone needs to be convicted, then damn well do it. Jurors should not think it's ok to let people off simply bc they believe the punishment is too harsh. These imbecile jurors aren't even supposed to consider the punshment during deliberations! Deliberations take place to find if the Defendant is culpable of the crime(s) charged with!

Check out this link & snippet:
 ::MonkeyMad::

http://nowscape.com/fija/_cross.htm


TRANSCRIPT OF A PORTION OF "CROSSFIRE" SHOW, OCT. 1993.

Participants:

The hosts, Michael Kinsley and John Sununu

U.S. District Judge Stanley Sporkin, District of Columbia

Former Attorney General William Barr

Discussing the wisdom of mandatory minimum laws in drug cases...

KINSLEY: Are we getting folks that are being let off because the sentences are too

tough?

JUDGE SPORKIN: Absolutely. Every day in the District of Columbia. The juries

there who understand what's going on now are acquitting people that should be

convicted.

And that's another problem that you have. And there's nothing you can do

about it. There's no appeal to that. And it's happening every single day.

Look at your conviction rate. It's way down in the District of Columbia.

BARR: Jury nullification is a problem in many jurisdictions.

KINSLEY: Well what are you going to do about it?

BARR: Well, I, I...

KINSLEY: Isn't it an inevitable thing if... (Everyone talking at once)

SUNUNU: Isn't the jury taking care of the concerns you've raised? Aren't they, as

representatives of the people, doing what you want to do?

SPORKIN: No, nobody here is saying that these people ought not to go to jail. But

two years, three years, not 15, not 20 years...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Watch full episode: 'Inside the Verdict'
  After weeks of media captivation, the trial of Casey Anthony reaches a controversial conclusion. Dateline NBC's Dennis Murphy reports.

Part 1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Part 2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691568
Part 3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691895
Part 4. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691737
Part 5. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692073
Part 6. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692092

Thanks trimmonthelake

Janet

I watched last night something on TV, I was so mesmerized - I did not pay attention to the station.
Did I hear granny say, "She must have hated her mother more than she loved her daughter"?
The statement stuck in my heart like a stake.


Well anyone that bags,duct tap and throws their child in a swampy area to be eaten by animals, bugs, insects to me doesn't love her child at all...
Who does that.......
kc ONLY loves herself period..... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: shutterblog on July 09, 2011, 12:18:36 PM
Why was Tracy McLaughlin not called as a prosecution witness to testify.  Tracy account is not hearsay.  Tracy was there.  She observed.  She heard.

Tracy's testimony could have disputed the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was present when Caylee drowned ... the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was a participant in the disposal of Caylee's remains.

 ::snipping2::


I'm having trouble finding links that aren't expired, but this can help you Google if you want more info...  Apparently at one time Fox 35 did a report about Tracy depositing money in Casey's jail account (one date was 3/24/09 under the name "Tracy Conroy").  The defense also had copies of letters Tracy wrote Casey in jail praising her, saying she was strong, admired her / wanted to help her, etc.   So between the connection to Padilla, and Tracy playing to both sides, it could have been a minefield for the prosecution.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 09, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
The more i hear Jesse Grund's story of being on the coach with Casey when Cindy and Casey got into it where Cindy called her a failure ... "why would you ever want to be with someone who is a failure and can't even afford to pay me back ..."

It was Cindy who basically made Casey have Caylee. You cannot tell me that in some way Casey did not kill Caylee out of spite to get even with Cindy. She knew that Caylee was loved more than her by Cindy & George.

This is why she was so able to go out and party for 31 days and do nothing as we know now Casey knew all along that Caylee was dead and where she was. The fact that the jury could not figure this out defies logic.

As far as I am concerned on the jury is that they did not do their job. They only were sequestered and lived pretty good for 6 weeks. They were lazy, couldn't comprehend the experts information put before them. I was worried when the reporters in the courtroom would post they weren't taking notes. Sometimes a few would but I don't think they did during the scientific evidence testimony and that was the most important. They can be paid for interviews and defend themselves on media as much as they want but they did not do their job that they took an oath to do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: lilme on July 09, 2011, 12:21:25 PM
I loved the Rascal Flatts tribute to Caylee.  Someone may have already suggested this I cant keep up!  I know I am asking for a lot - I wish they would donate the money made on this to purchase that property where she was found and build a memorial park on it. 

I think I have some connection to some folks who know Rascal Flatts. I am making every effort to contact them to become the face of this effort for caylee's law. RF are just huge in the Country music industry, in the US and world.

Sadly, most laws like Caylee's law are done by the parents or family members like Megan's law, the Amber Alert and Jessica's law. However, in this case, it takes others outside the family to provide JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE as the Anthony family only appears to want to copyright the phrase, not actually do anything about it.

Monkeys, we need your perseverance more than ever. Turn that anger in what happened to Caylee and this misguided jury into something that will protect children an eternity.
Red, I pray you are successful with RF.  I have never written letters or committed myself to anything like this before but I started writing two nights ago. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: islandmonkey on July 09, 2011, 12:21:55 PM
I loved the Rascal Flatts tribute to Caylee.  Someone may have already suggested this I cant keep up!  I know I am asking for a lot - I wish they would donate the money made on this to purchase that property where she was found and build a memorial park on it. 

I think I have some connection to some folks who know Rascal Flatts. I am making every effort to contact them to become the face of this effort for caylee's law. RF are just huge in the Country music industry, in the US and world.

Sadly, most laws like Caylee's law are done by the parents or family members like Megan's law, the Amber Alert and Jessica's law. However, in this case, it takes others outside the family to provide JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE as the Anthony family only appears to want to copyright the phrase, not actually do anything about it.

Monkeys, we need your perseverance more than ever. Turn that anger in what happened to Caylee and this misguided jury into something that will protect children an eternity.

Red, I DO have a contact with someone close to Rascal Flats.......they bought the home in Nashville owned by one of the band members, and this man (can't remember which band member it is but I can find out), anyway he helps her with her mixing, songwriting etc. Her name is Pearl Clarkin and they live here on the beach and split time between here and Nashville. If you want I can get in touch with her as I know her family well, her mom is a friend and her brother is in my son's class at school. Get my email addy from Klass and let me know what you want me to do, I can talk to him myself and/or hook him up with you. We MUST do something to protect our children, especially from those who have a "mother" for lack of a better word like poor Caylee, her death must not be in vain and it's up to all of us to make sure it is not!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: shutterblog on July 09, 2011, 12:23:00 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::

The jury: WKMG-Channel 6’s Tony Pipitone said jurors had code names as “Rosen Student One,” “Rosen Student Two” and so on because they were booked into a hotel as the Rosen Transfer Students Conference. They stayed at the Rosen Shingle Creek at a rate of $112 a night for six weeks.

The jurors always traveled with deputies, court spokeswoman Karen Levey told Pipitone. Levey also explained: For the last 10 days, the jurors had no television because of the heavy Anthony trial promotion on channels such as even Cartoon Network and Syfy. Jurors had special meals at places ranging from the Citrus Club and the University Club to Tony Roma’s and Olive Garden. The food costs were nearly $25,000. The jurors went to movies, such as “Super 8″ and “Green Lantern.” The deliberating jurors declined to watch the Lake Eola fireworks but the alternates watched the holiday festivities.

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::

These brain dead jurors really thought they were special.......


This is why the former Juror (in Italy) missed the "fun" back in the jury Hotel.  She needs to pay for special meals on vacation.:)

No wonder the deliberations went so quickly.  Chik-Fil-A for lunch?  Totally unacceptable!   :smt013


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
Why was Tracy McLaughlin not called as a prosecution witness to testify.  Tracy account is not hearsay.  Tracy was there.  She observed.  She heard.

Tracy's testimony could have disputed the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was present when Caylee drowned ... the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was a participant in the disposal of Caylee's remains.

 ::snipping2::


I'm having trouble finding links that aren't expired, but this can help you Google if you want more info...  Apparently at one time Fox 35 did a report about Tracy depositing money in Casey's jail account (one date was 3/24/09 under the name "Tracy Conroy").  The defense also had copies of letters Tracy wrote Casey in jail praising her, saying she was strong, admired her / wanted to help her, etc.   So between the connection to Padilla, and Tracy playing to both sides, it could have been a minefield for the prosecution.


I get it.

Thanks shutterblog

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 12:27:02 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28493987/index.html
1st Judge In Casey Anthony Case Discusses Trial
Judge Stan Strickland discusses the Casey Anthony murder trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 12:27:15 PM
The more i hear Jesse Grund's story of being on the coach with Casey when Cindy and Casey got into it where Cindy called her a failure ... "why would you ever want to be with someone who is a failure and can't even afford to pay me back ..."

It was Cindy who basically made Casey have Caylee. You cannot tell me that in some way Casey did not kill Caylee out of spite to get even with Cindy. She knew that Caylee was loved more than her by Cindy & George.

This is why she was so able to go out and party for 31 days and do nothing as we know now Casey knew all along that Caylee was dead and where she was. The fact that the jury could not figure this out defies logic.

Agree! I think Cindy talked her into keeping Caylee, instead of adopting out. I think it's one of the reasons Cindy kept it secret, even though she says she didn't. She didn't want to be "embarassed" if Casey gave her child up so she just kept it secret...until she talked her into keeping Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: klaasend on July 09, 2011, 12:28:03 PM
For those that don't know, I just created a separate sub forum (up by the trial archives) for Caylee's Law by State:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=82.0


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 09, 2011, 12:28:24 PM
Why was Tracy McLaughlin not called as a prosecution witness to testify.  Tracy account is not hearsay.  Tracy was there.  She observed.  She heard.

Tracy's testimony could have disputed the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was present when Caylee drowned ... the defence's opening statement that alleged that George was a participant in the disposal of Caylee's remains.

 ::snipping2::


I'm having trouble finding links that aren't expired, but this can help you Google if you want more info...  Apparently at one time Fox 35 did a report about Tracy depositing money in Casey's jail account (one date was 3/24/09 under the name "Tracy Conroy").  The defense also had copies of letters Tracy wrote Casey in jail praising her, saying she was strong, admired her / wanted to help her, etc.   So between the connection to Padilla, and Tracy playing to both sides, it could have been a minefield for the prosecution.


I get it.

Thanks shutterblog

Janet
yes and sadly the same can probably be said for several other witnesses who could have helped the state's case. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 12:29:54 PM
Is it possible that Baez worked with ABC for the first juror interview in the event of a not guilty verdict?  The juror(s) were told (obviously I'm reaching here - but could still happen) after selected but before sequestered. That "trip" and others were in the back of their minds.  Or even someone working for ABC etc got to a juror.  Let's face it.  An interview with a "Not Guilty" juror pulls alot more viewers than a "Guilty" one.  I think someone should look into the time they were selected to the time they were sequestered.  Heck look into them all - bank accounts & everything.

Been working on it since I brought it up last night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 12:31:50 PM
I loved the Rascal Flatts tribute to Caylee.  Someone may have already suggested this I cant keep up!  I know I am asking for a lot - I wish they would donate the money made on this to purchase that property where she was found and build a memorial park on it. 

I think I have some connection to some folks who know Rascal Flatts. I am making every effort to contact them to become the face of this effort for caylee's law. RF are just huge in the Country music industry, in the US and world.

Sadly, most laws like Caylee's law are done by the parents or family members like Megan's law, the Amber Alert and Jessica's law. However, in this case, it takes others outside the family to provide JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE as the Anthony family only appears to want to copyright the phrase, not actually do anything about it.

Monkeys, we need your perseverance more than ever. Turn that anger in what happened to Caylee and this misguided jury into something that will protect children an eternity.

Red, I DO have a contact with someone close to Rascal Flats.......they bought the home in Nashville owned by one of the band members, and this man (can't remember which band member it is but I can find out), anyway he helps her with her mixing, songwriting etc. Her name is Pearl Clarkin and they live here on the beach and split time between here and Nashville. If you want I can get in touch with her as I know her family well, her mom is a friend and her brother is in my son's class at school. Get my email addy from Klass and let me know what you want me to do, I can talk to him myself and/or hook him up with you. We MUST do something to protect our children, especially from those who have a "mother" for lack of a better word like poor Caylee, her death must not be in vain and it's up to all of us to make sure it is not!

Any contact info you have, please send to my email ... red@scaredmonkeys.com

Better yet, I have your ... will contact you directly.

we do not want any addresses or tel #'s on line ... thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 12:35:50 PM
The more i hear Jesse Grund's story of being on the coach with Casey when Cindy and Casey got into it where Cindy called her a failure ... "why would you ever want to be with someone who is a failure and can't even afford to pay me back ..."

It was Cindy who basically made Casey have Caylee. You cannot tell me that in some way Casey did not kill Caylee out of spite to get even with Cindy. She knew that Caylee was loved more than her by Cindy & George.

This is why she was so able to go out and party for 31 days and do nothing as we know now Casey knew all along that Caylee was dead and where she was. The fact that the jury could not figure this out defies logic.

Agree! I think Cindy talked her into keeping Caylee, instead of adopting out. I think it's one of the reasons Cindy kept it secret, even though she says she didn't. She didn't want to be "embarassed" if Casey gave her child up so she just kept it secret...until she talked her into keeping Caylee.

AGREED!

It sickens me that Cindy would rush off to jail to see Casey. What a disgrace. What, she figured because she lied and perjured herself for Casey, that she would be back in the good graces of the sociopath?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 12:40:44 PM
Hey Muffy. I just wanted to say I'm sorry about my post on the last page. I have no problem at all with diversified religion, or even atheist groups. I was talking about that group that pickets outside of servicemen funerals & such. They add more pain to what the families & loved ones of the deceased are going through. I don't know their name, only their religion. Also, I know that not all of that certain denomination have those same beliefs. I was trying to think of that name but forgot, so that's why I wrote that.

Truly sorry, don't want anybody to think negative.

XOX!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2011, 12:48:07 PM
Hey Muffy. I just wanted to say I'm sorry about my post on the last page. I have no problem at all with diversified religion, or even atheist groups. I was talking about that group that pickets outside of servicemen funerals & such. They add more pain to what the families & loved ones of the deceased are going through. I don't know their name, only their religion. Also, I know that not all of that certain denomination have those same beliefs. I was trying to think of that name but forgot, so that's why I wrote that.

Truly sorry, don't want anybody to think negative.

XOX!  ::MonkeyAngel::

You probably meant Westboro Baptist Church, Titch. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 12:49:26 PM
I wonder if the (former) juror who is on vacation in Italy, if she tried to get a free meal (on vacation) by telling the chef that she served on the Anthony case?  I wonder if the chef tossed her out like a meatball.  How else would anyone know she served as a juror, unless she told people? Remember (reportly) she was afraid to leave her hotel, she commented that she had more “fun”back at the (jury) Hotel, than she did in Italy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/07/casey-anthony-stan-strickland-calls-belvin-perry-the-best-judge-around.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
Casey Anthony: Stan Strickland calls Belvin Perry ‘the best judge around’
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, NBC, Today, WESH, WKMG — posted by halboedeker on July, 9 2011 9:53 AM

 ::snipping2::
But Pipitone sat down with Strickland, who raved over Perry.  ”Judge Perry is an institution,” Strickland told Pipitone. ” He’s, for my money, the best judge around. There’s a reason he’s the chief judge. He did a great job on this case.”
 ::snipping2::
In other Anthony news:

WFTV-Channel 9 legal analyst Bill Sheaffer is predicting that Judge Perry won’t follow through on threats, made during the trial, to hold Baez in contempt of court for trying to ask surprise questions of expert witnesses. Punishing Baez now might seem like penalizing the defense attorney for succeeding, Sheaffer said

Stations keep saying they will provide full coverage of Anthony’s release from the Orange County Jail on Sunday, July 17.  But many are speculating that date may be a decoy, Beth Karas of “In Session” told NBC’s “Today” this morning.

“I don’t know for sure,” Karas said. “I think the 17th indeed may be the date. They could get her out in the early morning hours any time after midnight. They could also sneak her out so the media that will be staking out all sorts of exits at the jail will miss it.”

WFTV’s Sheaffer predicted that the defense team will probably send in a hair stylist and makeup artist for Anthony’s exit.

Will Casey keep the Morticia Addams hair or not?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Curly on July 09, 2011, 12:50:20 PM
Hey Muffy. I just wanted to say I'm sorry about my post on the last page. I have no problem at all with diversified religion, or even atheist groups. I was talking about that group that pickets outside of servicemen funerals & such. They add more pain to what the families & loved ones of the deceased are going through. I don't know their name, only their religion. Also, I know that not all of that certain denomination have those same beliefs. I was trying to think of that name but forgot, so that's why I wrote that.

Truly sorry, don't want anybody to think negative.

XOX!  ::MonkeyAngel::

Westboro Baptist Church.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 12:51:44 PM
Hey Muffy. I just wanted to say I'm sorry about my post on the last page. I have no problem at all with diversified religion, or even atheist groups. I was talking about that group that pickets outside of servicemen funerals & such. They add more pain to what the families & loved ones of the deceased are going through. I don't know their name, only their religion. Also, I know that not all of that certain denomination have those same beliefs. I was trying to think of that name but forgot, so that's why I wrote that.

Truly sorry, don't want anybody to think negative.

XOX!  ::MonkeyAngel::

You probably meant Westboro Baptist Church, Titch. 

That's it! Thank you! Again, I apologize.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 12:52:20 PM
901,000 and still counting..

Caylee's Law.................................

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Babybear on July 09, 2011, 12:54:50 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Watch full episode: 'Inside the Verdict'
  After weeks of media captivation, the trial of Casey Anthony reaches a controversial conclusion. Dateline NBC's Dennis Murphy reports.

Part 1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Part 2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691568
Part 3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691895
Part 4. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691737
Part 5. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692073
Part 6. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692092

Thanks trimmonthelake

Janet

I watched last night something on TV, I was so mesmerized - I did not pay attention to the station.
Did I hear granny say, "She must have hated her mother more than she loved her daughter"?
The statement stuck in my heart like a stake.


Yes, Shirley Pleasea, Cindy's mother,  said that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/07/casey-anthony-discussions-on-this-week-reliable-sources-sen-bill-nelson-on-face-the-nation.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
Casey Anthony discussions on ‘This Week,’ ‘Reliable Sources’; Sen. Bill Nelson on ‘Face the Nation’
ABC, CNN, Caylee and Casey Anthony, Face the Nation, Fox, Fox News Sunday, Meet the Press, NBC, Reliable Sources, State of the Union, This Week, WESH, WFTV, WKMG, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on July, 9 2011 11:42 AM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 01:00:08 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
If anybody has a question with regards to jury nullification, or jury tampering, you may find this link interesting...especially if you take into consideration the recent multiple interviews and their "choice" wording. Hmmm...I'm thinking Janet might love this bit of info...

http://nowscape.com/fija/_fija94.htm

WHAT, NEW FIJA BILL LANGUAGE?

After five years, you'd think we'd have settled by now on the "optimal" language for FIJA legislation. Frankly, we thought we had it down pretty pat, but then we read an academic article about our own efforts---constructive criticism--and put our thinking caps back on.

The article is by M. Kristine Creagan, and is titled "Jury Nullification: Recent Legislative Developments". It appeared in last winter's Case Western Reserve University Law Review. From it we excerpted and printed the conclusion, which consisted of new suggested wording, and printed that wording in the previous (the Spring, 1994) FIJActivist.

It contains several ideas which got our attention, some of which we accepted and built into the new bill language presented below, which we just recently sent, with accompanying commentary explaining why we changed the proposal as we did, to 60 state coordinators and other activists around the country. Have a look:

PROPOSED 1994-1995 FULLY INFORMED JURY BILL LANGUAGE

"An accused or aggrieved party's right to trial by jury, in all instances where the government or any of its agencies is an opposing party, includes the right to inform the jurors of their power to judge the law as well as the evidence, and to vote on the verdict according to conscience.

"This right shall not be infringed by any statute, juror oath, court order, or procedure or practice of the court, including the use of any method of jury selection which could preclude or limit the empanelment of jurors willing to exercise this power.

"Nor shall this right be infringed by preventing any party to the trial, once the jurors have been informed of their powers, from presenting arguments to the jury which may pertain to issues of law and conscience, including (1) the merit, intent, constitutionality or applicability of the law in the instant case; (2) the motives, moral perspective, or circumstances of the accused or aggrieved party; (3) the degree and direction of guilt or actual harm done; or (4) the sanctions which may be applied to the losing party.

"Failure to allow the accused or aggrieved party or counsel for that party to so inform the jury shall be grounds for mistrial and another trial by jury."

NOTES:

By couching its provisions in terms of the rights of the accused or aggrieved person, instead of the jury, this language avoids several problems inherent in earlier versions:

It makes presentation of the power of nullification an option of the accused or aggrieved person, not a mandate for the judge. This should assuage some of the opposition judges have voiced, to the effect that they would have to give nullification instructions whether or not desired by the defendant, whether or not relevant to the case at hand, and whether or not in the interest of justice, as they see it. In an era of mandatory sentencing guidelines and "three strikes you're out", judges have expectably come to resent loss of control and discretion in their courtrooms. To add one more thing they would "have to do", whether or not it makes sense, can only increase that resentment.

Additionally, as an option of the accused or aggrieved person, the "risk" of reminding the jury of its power is properly borne by the opponent of the government, but is no more forced upon him or her than upon the trial judge.

It avoids the issue of "right" versus "power": the accused or aggrieved person clearly has "rights", and the jury's prerogative to judge both law and fact in deciding a verdict can therefore be called a "power" without ruffling the sensitivities of those who insist that it is not a right, and that there is some kind of difference between a right and a power.

It deals with the issue of juror disqualification in terms that make good sense--by basing it on the defendant's right to a fair and impartial hearing, rather than insisting upon a juror's "right to be seated despite his views", an assertion which is harder to establish and defend, and which in practice might actually work against the accused or aggrieved person in some instances, to the dismay of his or her attorney.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: theboyzmom on July 09, 2011, 01:01:56 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO


I agree with you. I suspect that there was a deal made with him that if he stayed away and did not interfere he would not have to pay child support. Young (and some old) guys will often buy that BS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 01:02:44 PM
901,000 and still counting..

Caylee's Law.................................

 ::MonkeyAngel::

OMG! This is amazing!
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 01:06:43 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO


I agree with you.  Only we have no proof that this guy is the father, and he didn't tell his mother. She told NG that she only put 2-and-2 together after she heard about this on the news..  and that her son used to visit family down in the Orlando area, so its possible.  I don't know that she ever said she knew of Casey, much less that her son could have possibly fathered a child.  If he was the dad and knew about it, he's probably just like any number of young dads out there who could care less that they have offspring. They get a girl pregnant and are probably overjoyed when the mother tells them they don't need to provide help of any kind.  If he was the dad but didn't know, well, it's a shame.

It doesn't seem like the Anthonys will do anything to help this woman determine if Caylee is/was her granddaughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 01:06:47 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO

We don't know he wasn't and Casey was using the money else wheres, but then again Casey said the father didnt know about Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 01:07:27 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO

We don't know he wasn't and Casey was using the money else wheres, but then again Casey said the father didnt know about Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 01:08:00 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Watch full episode: 'Inside the Verdict'
  After weeks of media captivation, the trial of Casey Anthony reaches a controversial conclusion. Dateline NBC's Dennis Murphy reports.

Part 1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691488
Part 2. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691568
Part 3. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691895
Part 4. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43691737
Part 5. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692073
Part 6. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/vp/43691488#43692092

Thanks trimmonthelake

Janet

I watched last night something on TV, I was so mesmerized - I did not pay attention to the station.
Did I hear granny say, "She must have hated her mother more than she loved her daughter"?
The statement stuck in my heart like a stake.


Yes, Shirley Pleasea, Cindy's mother,  said that.

Thanks, Babybear. 




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 01:10:25 PM

I agree with you. I suspect that there was a deal made with him that if he stayed away and did not interfere he would not have to pay child support. Young (and some old) guys will often buy that BS.

I hear ya, but I don't understand why Casey wouldn't demand help, though.  Or why Cindy wouldn't have demanded Casey collect child support. It's not like Casey was a strong, independent woman with steady income. She lived off her parents, for crying out loud. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 01:11:24 PM
In my long post above, this link worked when I was typing it.  But I just noticed it doesn't work now.
Quote
<snip>
Man accused of handing out pamphlets outside Casey Anthony jury room
http://www.baynews9.com/article/news/2011/june/271337/

Here is a cached version I found. At least for the present moment, this link works.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Qed4011JVrIJ:www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/june/271337/Man-accused-of-handing-out-pamphlets-outside-Casey-Anthony-jury-room+man+handing+out+pamphlets&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com


 ::MonkeyCool::   Thank you for the long & informative post---very enlightening food for thought.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 01:11:27 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO


I agree with you. I suspect that there was a deal made with him that if he stayed away and did not interfere he would not have to pay child support. Young (and some old) guys will often buy that BS.

Yes, and CA probably threatened to choke him if he ever reappeared. :) CA should have been the first to demand who the father was, she being a nursie, if Caylee would have needed a kidney donor or anything serious, to find the father for that reason alone.  Thanks for your response, Boyzmom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 01:13:09 PM
I suppose it's cheaper not to go after a guy for child support.. Cindy and George couldn't have afforded a lawyer, and neither could Casey. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 01:14:11 PM
I don't get this juror Dean was he an alterant or a juror? He said "WE" were waiting through the trial for the loaded gun.. how would he know through the trial what each juror was waiting for? If they hadnt talked to each other about the case?
He also said she was young and pretty, and didnt seem she was the type to kill her daughter. Then he said yes they believed she was a lier, but even though she partied for 31 days didnt mean she neglected Caylee,
How does a person think this way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 01:14:41 PM
Paradigm Talent Agency Decides Not to Represent Casey Anthony Lawyer Jose Baez … Casey Anthony Cashing In Too?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/07/09/paradigm-talent-agency-decides-not-to-represent-casey-anthony-lawyer-jose-baez-casey-anthony-cashing-in-too/

Defense attorney Jose Baez just learned how much of a small fish he really is in the grand scope of things. Baez was cast aside by Paradigm as his client as easy as Casey Anthony case her 2 year old daughter away in a swamp. A little poetic justice if you ask me. Let’s face it, Jose Baez benefited from a jury that seems to be the only 12 people in America in one location that think Casey Anthony was not guilty of a felony crime.

Profiting off the death of Caylee Anthony might be also a difficult proposition for Casey as well. It was said that Casey was supposed to get $1 million from the Jerry Springer show. However, Jerry Springer has come back and made a statement that said in no way have they offered a deal to Casey to appear on their show with George and Cindy Anthony.As stated at TMZ (VIDEO) Springer said, “God as my witness, I would never interview her. You could pay me the million dollars, I wouldn’t do it.”

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 01:15:32 PM
Can  this case be taken to The state Supreme Court  saying that the Jury and judge was wrong,
and get this  reversed?



It happed here
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-gould-supreme-court-0709-20110708,0,2876568.story

Good question.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Blonde on July 09, 2011, 01:16:34 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO


Did she get the dna test yet? What was her name i want to do some of my own research


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 01:18:13 PM
I'm sorry, but I really hate it when people talk about how young and beautiful Casey is.. and that people are less likely to convict people like that.  Really? She's that hot?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: theboyzmom on July 09, 2011, 01:18:28 PM
The failure to understand or follow jury instructions is NOT jury nullification PER SE.  Jury nullification is much more than not following the rules. It is the conscious decision that the law is that the person is guilty, that the state has proved their case and yet, you find the law objectionable and therefore, acquit. In this case the jury has said that they did not feel the prosecution proved their case. They believed that there had to be a CAUSE of death proven. This was a mistake or failure to listen to the instructions on their part - not a thought out decision that the law was objectionable.  Therefore, it was NOT jury nullification. It was pure stupidity.

Currently, there is almost no jurisdiction you can argue jury nullification in to the jury. The courts have repeatedly ruled that the jury may not be told about being able to nullify. The simple fact is, however, jury nullification is and was designed to be, the last protection of the people from unjust government.  Remember too that this was not a case of anti death penalty since the jury had the right to give the sentencing recommendation to the court and knew this.

I know that many of you feel that this is a case of JN. I just really do not see it. I really do not believe that the jury gave enough thought to the verdict and the law to make that choice. I really really think it was pure and simply that they did not want to do the job and wanted to go home. I think a close second is that the jury was "gotten to" somehow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 01:21:49 PM
Desi...send your post to Bill O...he likes to get involved in that kind of stuff...especially when he is passionate about it..

Yes!!  Please do that!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 01:22:03 PM
Can  this case be taken to The state Supreme Court  saying that the Jury and judge was wrong,
and get this  reversed?



It happed here
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-gould-supreme-court-0709-20110708,0,2876568.story

Good question.
I have been trying to find out if this was a jury trial or just a judge trial anyone know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: AZSunny on July 09, 2011, 01:22:11 PM
I suppose it's cheaper not to go after a guy for child support.. Cindy and George couldn't have afforded a lawyer, and neither could Casey. 

I don't think Casey had any idea who the father was.  It could have been one of many.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Terri on July 09, 2011, 01:22:41 PM
Here in Columbus OH, we do hear about Casey, but we are also hearing about sanctions for OSU and their scandal (players getting free tattoos, etc).  Yesterday I was listening to the AM talk radio channel, and the guy said that Jim Tressel no longer having to pay $250k, but instead gets paid a monthly salary, etc..  is "just like the Casey Anthony trial".   We'll still hear about OJ I'm sure, but now that Casey is the new OJ, this tells me that the majority of people out there honestly believe that what happened in the case in Florida is a complete miscarriage of justice.

Canal Winchester here;  HI!   ::HelloKitty::

I tend to agree..but things are dying down.  Initial outrage on FB then it was over.  Yesterday I posted this comment from an instructor at OSU;
A friend of mine just posted this on her page...You have to love Ohio State!!! Never at a loss for words!
my teacher just introduced the term chlorophyll in our bio class and followed it up with, "not be confused with chloroform, so if you go searching for chlorophyll on your computer, and chloroform comes up, don't click on it (80 times) unless you want to get away with murdering your child"--i love college....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 01:23:29 PM
http://www.wesh.com/r/18973853/detail.html
 ::snipping2::

Cindy Anthony's mother interviewed:

Investigators talked to Shirley Plesea, who is Cindy Anthony's mother on Aug. 21. Plesea said Cindy Anthony would give her life for Caylee. But Plesea agreed that Cindy Anthony changed her story during the investigation. Plesea said, "If she doesn't believe Casey then Caylee's dead. Honest to God that's my feeling." She also said about Casey, "I just wonder if she hated her mom more than she loved Caylee." Plesea said she got goose bumps when Cindy Anthony informed her Casey was in jail and Caylee had been missing for a month. Plesea said that, in June, Cindy Anthony made it clear that she wanted custody of Caylee. Then, she said, Casey Anthony promised day after day to bring Caylee home, but never did. Plesea said she thinks Casey Anthony did that to torment her mother. Pleasea said she believes the unemployed 22-year-old may have stolen as much as $45,000 from her parents, possibly by taking out credit cards in Cindy Anthony's name. The mounting bills forced Cindy Anthony to tap into her 401K, and nearly cost the Anthonys their home on Hopespring Drive. The grandmother said she first learned of Casey Anthony's thievery when she discovered she had stolen one of her checks and spent $54 to buy a cake and party favors for Caylee's 2nd birthday and then wrote another check from Plesea's account for $354 to pay her cell phone bill. Investigators talked with Plesea on the same day Casey Anthony bonded out of jail. Her grandmother told investigators she wasn't happy about that. In fact, to get to the truth, she suggested it might do Casey Anthony some good to get "beat up" behind bars. She said her last words to Casey Anthony were, "I love you, but I don't like you."


A person who lies and steals  (and apparently kills) like Casey does, won't change their spots.  We will see her in trouble in the future. 

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/18973853/detail.html#ixzz1Rd5UQobL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Terri on July 09, 2011, 01:23:45 PM
I suppose it's cheaper not to go after a guy for child support.. Cindy and George couldn't have afforded a lawyer, and neither could Casey. 

I don't think Casey had any idea who the father was.  It could have been one of many.

In Ohio, you can apply for public assitance and they will do the dna testing for free.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on July 09, 2011, 01:24:16 PM
Juror #3 made statement she already had her mind made before deliberating. I feel she sold Caylee Marie Anthony for a trip to Disney World for her family. Now how in god's name did the jury give a verdict at 2:15pm, then go to Disney world with her family the rest of the day? Bought off sounds like it to me.MOO


Afternoon everyone..........she did indeed sell out, trying to make people think they were sick at their stomachs and crying? And yet you can go to Disney World and have fun? Are you kidding me? The rest of us are still trying to cope with what we know happened to Caylee,speaking for myself, it's hard to function and concentrate on anything and sleep doesn't come easy either, to go to Disney World on the heels of their verdict shows they never once considered Caylee in any of this, I don't know how this juror can live with herself knowing she had fun because a little baby girl died by the hands of her mother and was thrown in the woods to rot like garbage, it is beyond my comprehension which I guess is a good thing because I never want to be able to think like any of them, the jurors, Casey, Cindy, George, Baez, Mason and all the rest that defend that baby killer, so maybe I should just stop trying to rack my brain since I'm never going to find the answer I want. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
Here in Columbus OH, we do hear about Casey, but we are also hearing about sanctions for OSU and their scandal (players getting free tattoos, etc).  Yesterday I was listening to the AM talk radio channel, and the guy said that Jim Tressel no longer having to pay $250k, but instead gets paid a monthly salary, etc..  is "just like the Casey Anthony trial".   We'll still hear about OJ I'm sure, but now that Casey is the new OJ, this tells me that the majority of people out there honestly believe that what happened in the case in Florida is a complete miscarriage of justice.

Canal Winchester here;  HI!   ::HelloKitty::

I tend to agree..but things are dying down.  Initial outrage on FB then it was over.  Yesterday I posted this comment from an instructor at OSU;
A friend of mine just posted this on her page...You have to love Ohio State!!! Never at a loss for words!
my teacher just introduced the term chlorophyll in our bio class and followed it up with, "not be confused with chloroform, so if you go searching for chlorophyll on your computer, and chloroform comes up, don't click on it (80 times) unless you want to get away with murdering your child"--i love college....

::MonkeyDevil::  I think I like your professor. :P

(I'm near Easton.  ::HelloKitty:: )     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Blonde on July 09, 2011, 01:25:25 PM
The failure to understand or follow jury instructions is NOT jury nullification PER SE.  Jury nullification is much more than not following the rules. It is the conscious decision that the law is that the person is guilty, that the state has proved their case and yet, you find the law objectionable and therefore, acquit. In this case the jury has said that they did not feel the prosecution proved their case. They believed that there had to be a CAUSE of death proven. This was a mistake or failure to listen to the instructions on their part - not a thought out decision that the law was objectionable.  Therefore, it was NOT jury nullification. It was pure stupidity.

Currently, there is almost no jurisdiction you can argue jury nullification in to the jury. The courts have repeatedly ruled that the jury may not be told about being able to nullify. The simple fact is, however, jury nullification is and was designed to be, the last protection of the people from unjust government.  Remember too that this was not a case of anti death penalty since the jury had the right to give the sentencing recommendation to the court and knew this.

I know that many of you feel that this is a case of JN. I just really do not see it. I really do not believe that the jury gave enough thought to the verdict and the law to make that choice. I really really think it was pure and simply that they did not want to do the job and wanted to go home. I think a close second is that the jury was "gotten to" somehow.
By the look of the pictures I think Bozo knew IMO
(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18514044022.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379860/1083272)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18515064993.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379975/4243969)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 01:28:06 PM
I suppose it's cheaper not to go after a guy for child support.. Cindy and George couldn't have afforded a lawyer, and neither could Casey. 

I don't think Casey had any idea who the father was.  It could have been one of many.

In Ohio, you can apply for public assitance and they will do the dna testing for free.
Do you think Cindy would allow that? I don't Cindy would of been scared one of her co-workers, friends, family would of found out.  She had an image to uphold


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 01:28:43 PM

 By the look of the pictures I think Bozo knew IMO


I saw his face, and I took it as "God I hope you guys picked my version of events!"..  not sure if he knew or not, but I thought Simms looked like she thought Casey was going down.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 09, 2011, 01:29:40 PM
This was a mistake or failure to listen to the instructions on their part - not a thought out decision that the law was objectionable.  Therefore, it was NOT jury nullification. It was pure stupidity.

ITA!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 01:38:38 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 01:39:44 PM
The failure to understand or follow jury instructions is NOT jury nullification PER SE.  Jury nullification is much more than not following the rules. It is the conscious decision that the law is that the person is guilty, that the state has proved their case and yet, you find the law objectionable and therefore, acquit. In this case the jury has said that they did not feel the prosecution proved their case. They believed that there had to be a CAUSE of death proven. This was a mistake or failure to listen to the instructions on their part - not a thought out decision that the law was objectionable.  Therefore, it was NOT jury nullification. It was pure stupidity.

Currently, there is almost no jurisdiction you can argue jury nullification in to the jury. The courts have repeatedly ruled that the jury may not be told about being able to nullify. The simple fact is, however, jury nullification is and was designed to be, the last protection of the people from unjust government.  Remember too that this was not a case of anti death penalty since the jury had the right to give the sentencing recommendation to the court and knew this.

I know that many of you feel that this is a case of JN. I just really do not see it. I really do not believe that the jury gave enough thought to the verdict and the law to make that choice. I really really think it was pure and simply that they did not want to do the job and wanted to go home. I think a close second is that the jury was "gotten to" somehow.
By the look of the pictures I think Bozo knew IMO
(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18514044022.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379860/1083272)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18515064993.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379975/4243969)

Bozo looks like the cat who ate the mouse :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 01:46:32 PM
Just posted on Alabama. A bill will be introduced in the next session.

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 01:47:51 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO

We don't know he wasn't and Casey was using the money else wheres, but then again Casey said the father didnt know about Caylee.

I thought of that, Jazzy.  She could have received money (under the table) for her daughter.  I should not assumed, and that he did not make payments.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 01:51:34 PM
By the look of the pictures I think Bozo knew IMO
(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18514044022.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379860/1083272)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18515064993.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379975/4243969)

Bozo looks like the cat who ate the mouse :)

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/Baez-finger-guns-0705_rdax_676x456.BMP)

Yep, I agree! Nice pic of Baez the morning of the verdict. since this pic was taken before the NG verdict was read, I think he knew.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
http://www.wesh.com/r/18973853/detail.html
 ::snipping2::

Cindy Anthony's mother interviewed:

Investigators talked to Shirley Plesea, who is Cindy Anthony's mother on Aug. 21. Plesea said Cindy Anthony would give her life for Caylee. But Plesea agreed that Cindy Anthony changed her story during the investigation. Plesea said, "If she doesn't believe Casey then Caylee's dead. Honest to God that's my feeling." She also said about Casey, "I just wonder if she hated her mom more than she loved Caylee." Plesea said she got goose bumps when Cindy Anthony informed her Casey was in jail and Caylee had been missing for a month. Plesea said that, in June, Cindy Anthony made it clear that she wanted custody of Caylee. Then, she said, Casey Anthony promised day after day to bring Caylee home, but never did. Plesea said she thinks Casey Anthony did that to torment her mother. Pleasea said she believes the unemployed 22-year-old may have stolen as much as $45,000 from her parents, possibly by taking out credit cards in Cindy Anthony's name. The mounting bills forced Cindy Anthony to tap into her 401K, and nearly cost the Anthonys their home on Hopespring Drive. The grandmother said she first learned of Casey Anthony's thievery when she discovered she had stolen one of her checks and spent $54 to buy a cake and party favors for Caylee's 2nd birthday and then wrote another check from Plesea's account for $354 to pay her cell phone bill. Investigators talked with Plesea on the same day Casey Anthony bonded out of jail. Her grandmother told investigators she wasn't happy about that. In fact, to get to the truth, she suggested it might do Casey Anthony some good to get "beat up" behind bars. She said her last words to Casey Anthony were, "I love you, but I don't like you."


A person who lies and steals  (and apparently kills) like Casey does, won't change their spots.  We will see her in trouble in the future. 

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/18973853/detail.html#ixzz1Rd5UQobL





Something went wrong somewhere with this family. Cindy married this weak, wimpy man, Cindy earns the living and controls the money. FOLLOW THE MONEY. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on July 09, 2011, 01:52:34 PM
Paradigm Talent Agency Decides Not to Represent Casey Anthony Lawyer Jose Baez … Casey Anthony Cashing In Too?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/07/09/paradigm-talent-agency-decides-not-to-represent-casey-anthony-lawyer-jose-baez-casey-anthony-cashing-in-too/

Defense attorney Jose Baez just learned how much of a small fish he really is in the grand scope of things. Baez was cast aside by Paradigm as his client as easy as Casey Anthony case her 2 year old daughter away in a swamp. A little poetic justice if you ask me. Let’s face it, Jose Baez benefited from a jury that seems to be the only 12 people in America in one location that think Casey Anthony was not guilty of a felony crime.

Profiting off the death of Caylee Anthony might be also a difficult proposition for Casey as well. It was said that Casey was supposed to get $1 million from the Jerry Springer show. However, Jerry Springer has come back and made a statement that said in no way have they offered a deal to Casey to appear on their show with George and Cindy Anthony.As stated at TMZ (VIDEO) Springer said, “God as my witness, I would never interview her. You could pay me the million dollars, I wouldn’t do it.”

 ::snipping2::

I think Baez and the others are throwing this crap around, start the bidding high and hope they get offered big bucks for interviews but I truly think they will all be surprised, America has spoken and we are disgusted and it's the whole country that says we will not tolerate money being made from Caylee's death, I truly think if we never thought our opinions or votes counted in the past, it will this time if we turn the channel every time they put on the defense team or anything to do with them, don't buy the mags, the books, don't watch the movies, nothing that greases the hands of these bottom feeders......JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 01:56:39 PM
I suppose it's cheaper not to go after a guy for child support.. Cindy and George couldn't have afforded a lawyer, and neither could Casey. 

I don't think Casey had any idea who the father was.  It could have been one of many.

In Ohio, you can apply for public assitance and they will do the dna testing for free.

Would you need to find out who the father was in case of a medical emergency?  I realize Caylee may
not have needed a kidney donor as a toddler, but would it be wise to have the fathers name, on the record?  I just can not
see Cindy being the tyrant (as claimed )to be just not pushing futher who the father was, in case of a dire emergency, even
I would do that. Unless, of coarse, it was Mr. Invisible :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 01:56:41 PM
Re my last long post which is from FIJA:

I believe this jury was tampered with before selection.

I believe there were outspoken activists planted for jury selection.

I believe human rights activists & anti dp advocates worked in coordination with the Defense.

I believe there is a reason Baez was able to bring in Simms, Finnell, Bolin & Mason and I believe they all have a common link to A. Lyons.

I believe an injustice has just been served on a silver platter.



Certainly makes logical sense.   Add Geraldo to the mix tooting his horn.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 01:57:11 PM
http://nowscape.com/fija/_coord.htm

FIJA STATE COORDINATORS AND CONTACTS

FLORIDA *Bob Matthews (904) 489-4898  
      14888 SW 111th St.  
      Dunnelon, FL 34432  
 
     Ken Wise    (813)239-9557  
     Jon Asfour    (904)378-6370  
     James M. Ray  (305)667-2281  
     Michael Holland  (904)375-6121  
     Dr. Bruce Vinikas (407)869-9900

What are these for???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
Just posted on Alabama. A bill will be introduced in the next session.

Alabama was the first to announce, I believe.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Valez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 02:03:50 PM
http://www.wesh.com/r/18973853/detail.html
 ::snipping2::

Cindy Anthony's mother interviewed:

Investigators talked to Shirley Plesea, who is Cindy Anthony's mother on Aug. 21. Plesea said Cindy Anthony would give her life for Caylee. But Plesea agreed that Cindy Anthony changed her story during the investigation. Plesea said, "If she doesn't believe Casey then Caylee's dead. Honest to God that's my feeling." She also said about Casey, "I just wonder if she hated her mom more than she loved Caylee." Plesea said she got goose bumps when Cindy Anthony informed her Casey was in jail and Caylee had been missing for a month. Plesea said that, in June, Cindy Anthony made it clear that she wanted custody of Caylee. Then, she said, Casey Anthony promised day after day to bring Caylee home, but never did. Plesea said she thinks Casey Anthony did that to torment her mother. Pleasea said she believes the unemployed 22-year-old may have stolen as much as $45,000 from her parents, possibly by taking out credit cards in Cindy Anthony's name. The mounting bills forced Cindy Anthony to tap into her 401K, and nearly cost the Anthonys their home on Hopespring Drive. The grandmother said she first learned of Casey Anthony's thievery when she discovered she had stolen one of her checks and spent $54 to buy a cake and party favors for Caylee's 2nd birthday and then wrote another check from Plesea's account for $354 to pay her cell phone bill. Investigators talked with Plesea on the same day Casey Anthony bonded out of jail. Her grandmother told investigators she wasn't happy about that. In fact, to get to the truth, she suggested it might do Casey Anthony some good to get "beat up" behind bars. She said her last words to Casey Anthony were, "I love you, but I don't like you."


A person who lies and steals  (and apparently kills) like Casey does, won't change their spots.  We will see her in trouble in the future. 

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/18973853/detail.html#ixzz1Rd5UQobL





Something went wrong somewhere with this family. Cindy married this weak, wimpy man, Cindy earns the living and controls the money. FOLLOW THE MONEY. ::MonkeyShocked::

I think SinSin made JoJo this weak wimpy man.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 02:08:03 PM
http://nowscape.com/fija/_coord.htm

FIJA STATE COORDINATORS AND CONTACTS

FLORIDA *Bob Matthews (904) 489-4898  
      14888 SW 111th St.  
      Dunnelon, FL 34432  
 
     Ken Wise    (813)239-9557  
     Jon Asfour    (904)378-6370  
     James M. Ray  (305)667-2281  
     Michael Holland  (904)375-6121  
     Dr. Bruce Vinikas (407)869-9900

What are these for???

The dude that was arrested during jury selection was handing out FIJA pamphlets.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 02:08:20 PM
http://www.wesh.com/r/18973853/detail.html
 ::snipping2::

Cindy Anthony's mother interviewed:

Investigators talked to Shirley Plesea, who is Cindy Anthony's mother on Aug. 21. Plesea said Cindy Anthony would give her life for Caylee. But Plesea agreed that Cindy Anthony changed her story during the investigation. Plesea said, "If she doesn't believe Casey then Caylee's dead. Honest to God that's my feeling." She also said about Casey, "I just wonder if she hated her mom more than she loved Caylee." Plesea said she got goose bumps when Cindy Anthony informed her Casey was in jail and Caylee had been missing for a month. Plesea said that, in June, Cindy Anthony made it clear that she wanted custody of Caylee. Then, she said, Casey Anthony promised day after day to bring Caylee home, but never did. Plesea said she thinks Casey Anthony did that to torment her mother. Pleasea said she believes the unemployed 22-year-old may have stolen as much as $45,000 from her parents, possibly by taking out credit cards in Cindy Anthony's name. The mounting bills forced Cindy Anthony to tap into her 401K, and nearly cost the Anthonys their home on Hopespring Drive. The grandmother said she first learned of Casey Anthony's thievery when she discovered she had stolen one of her checks and spent $54 to buy a cake and party favors for Caylee's 2nd birthday and then wrote another check from Plesea's account for $354 to pay her cell phone bill. Investigators talked with Plesea on the same day Casey Anthony bonded out of jail. Her grandmother told investigators she wasn't happy about that. In fact, to get to the truth, she suggested it might do Casey Anthony some good to get "beat up" behind bars. She said her last words to Casey Anthony were, "I love you, but I don't like you."


A person who lies and steals  (and apparently kills) like Casey does, won't change their spots.  We will see her in trouble in the future.  

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/news/18973853/detail.html#ixzz1Rd5UQobL





Something went wrong somewhere with this family. Cindy married this weak, wimpy man, Cindy earns the living and controls the money. FOLLOW THE MONEY. ::MonkeyShocked::

Casey "owned" her parents, but why?  Did she own the parents, because George and Cindy, wanted to keep Caylee in their care?

B has a link to anther Mrs Plesea earlier interview, but you need to click "yourself" to read one of them.  
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/23/caseycaylee-anthony-case-grams-shirley-plesea-is-our-hero/
Edit-fix quote MB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 02:10:30 PM
Some women are really good at emasculating their men.

As for Casey and this Matthew guy..  unless she had him sign away his parental rights, he could have come back to claim his child (or at least make the attempt) at any time, correct?   My sister is in CA, and her ex wasn't able to pay child support, so she never asked for it. But she also had him sign a document giving up any legal right to his child.  Casey risked having whoever the father might have been come back and perhaps sue for custody.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 02:10:49 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Valez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::



All jmo
I ususally take talk shows with a grain of salt so to speak, in less they have PROVEN facts..........
Well people do have life's however they are not forgetting...
Just putting their efforts towards Caylee's Law and hammering so no one profits off of Caylee's murder/death.

 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 02:12:59 PM


Casey "owned" her parents, but why?  Did she own the parents, because George and Cindy, wanted to keep Caylee in their care?

B has a link to anther Mrs Plesea earlier interview, but you need to click "yourself" to read one of them. 
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/23/caseycaylee-anthony-case-grams-shirley-plesea-is-our-hero/

This is pretty common, actually. I have seen this happen first-hand with a family member.  Using the child to get money, place to live, etc..  while the grandparent is in constant threat of never being able to see that child again if they don't give their (daughter) what they want.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Brandi on July 09, 2011, 02:15:10 PM

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/Baez-finger-guns-0705_rdax_676x456.BMP)

Yep, I agree! Nice pic of Baez the morning of the verdict. since this pic was taken before the NG verdict was read, I think he knew.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/Untitled1b.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 02:16:02 PM
Perjurer Cindy Anthony Writing Book Supporting Defense Claims About George

According to a cousin, Casey Anthony’s mother, Cindy, is writing a book in which she will explain how the defense claims about George in the opening statement are true.

A 2nd Cousin to Cindy called into a Houston, TX radio show (link below) stating how Cindy had a ”conference” call with only her side of the family giving details confirming to  them George’s participation as the Defense claimed in their opening statement at the murder trial.

Cindy will release these new details in a book already in the works ….  Cindy lied on the witness stand, can we believe her now ???  Is this another ploy of Cindy’s to save her daughter from the world’s hatred?

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/07/perjurer-cindy-anthony-writing-book-supporting-defense-claims-about-george/

----------

I had a feeling it was Cindy Anthony writing that book. ughhhhhhhhh  They all need to be locked away.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 02:17:28 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Valez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::

I agree, constructive anger is good, nothing would get done without passion. 

I am stunned that a law was not already in effect, I really am :)  I feel as thought, I lived in a cave, only to emerge and find out that a mother, could not be charged without reporting a child missing more than 24 hours, let alone 31 days. 

Caylee had to leave this earth to enact a Law, so sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 02:18:33 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Valez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::

Jane calling a wingnut a wingnut.... so terribly redundant. She needs to sit down, stfu, and have a nice carrot. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 02:23:06 PM
Perjurer Cindy Anthony Writing Book Supporting Defense Claims About George

According to a cousin, Casey Anthony’s mother, Cindy, is writing a book in which she will explain how the defense claims about George in the opening statement are true.

A 2nd Cousin to Cindy called into a Houston, TX radio show (link below) stating how Cindy had a ”conference” call with only her side of the family giving details confirming to  them George’s participation as the Defense claimed in their opening statement at the murder trial.

Cindy will release these new details in a book already in the works ….  Cindy lied on the witness stand, can we believe her now ???  Is this another ploy of Cindy’s to save her daughter from the world’s hatred?

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/07/perjurer-cindy-anthony-writing-book-supporting-defense-claims-about-george/

----------

I had a feeling it was Cindy Anthony writing that book. ughhhhhhhhh  They all need to be locked away.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Ya right, come on....bunch of bull crap.
Why didn't ca throw him in jail, I sure would of.
It's not true period.....
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 02:26:58 PM


Casey "owned" her parents, but why?  Did she own the parents, because George and Cindy, wanted to keep Caylee in their care?

B has a link to anther Mrs Plesea earlier interview, but you need to click "yourself" to read one of them. 
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/23/caseycaylee-anthony-case-grams-shirley-plesea-is-our-hero/

This is pretty common, actually. I have seen this happen first-hand with a family member.  Using the child to get money, place to live, etc..  while the grandparent is in constant threat of never being able to see that child again if they don't give their (daughter) what they want.

I agree with you.  IMO-Messy relationships are nothing new, I suspect Casey's behavior escalated, until it was a point of no return.  The car Casey drove was her mothers?  If that was the case, CA should filed a report of a stolen car.
Perhaps it would have saved her grand daughter, but that would have been a bit embarrassing for A's, wouldn't it?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 02:29:00 PM
A jury is a body of persons selected according to the law and sworn to inquire into or determine the facts on a question or questions --- When the facts are added up in this case, I just don't see how common sense did not prevail.   That is what is making people angry--the obvious was ignored.   It is truly frustrating. 

The jury system is the best in the world and accepting a jury's verdict is what we have to do, but this verdict seemed non-sensical to the max.  The Prosecution presented a fine & intelligent case.  The Defense, on the other hand, was chaotic, sensate, and goofy.    Wondering about juryrigging isn't all that much of a leap, in my view.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 02:29:58 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Velez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::

There is a thing called free speech in this country. The MSM does not tell us when to begin or stop our outrage. Unlike the MSM, this is not about ratings. This is about justice for little Caylee, who got none from a Ship of Fools.

The anger we have is not to attack jurors physically, it is it get justice and be pissed that people charged with that duty did not feel it was their job to do so.

JVM can put a sock in it. Go about your sensationsit coverage of the next case ... WE THE PEOPLE will work for Justice for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 02:31:13 PM
Cindy Anthony's book company - I have heard unconfirmed reports it is going to be Simon & Schuster

http://www.simonandschuster.com/about/contact_us




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2011, 02:32:02 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Velez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::


There is a thing called free speech in this country. The MSM does not tell us when to begin or stop our outrage. Unlike the MSM, this is not about ratings. This is about justice for little Caylee, who got none from a Ship of Fools.

The anger we have is not to attack jurors physically, it is it get justice and be pissed that people charged with that duty did not feel it was their job to do so.

JVM can put a sock in it. Go about your sensationsit coverage of the next case ... WE THE PEOPLE will work for Justice for Caylee.

Right on!!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 02:32:28 PM
Perjurer Cindy Anthony Writing Book Supporting Defense Claims About George

According to a cousin, Casey Anthony’s mother, Cindy, is writing a book in which she will explain how the defense claims about George in the opening statement are true.

A 2nd Cousin to Cindy called into a Houston, TX radio show (link below) stating how Cindy had a ”conference” call with only her side of the family giving details confirming to  them George’s participation as the Defense claimed in their opening statement at the murder trial.

Cindy will release these new details in a book already in the works ….  Cindy lied on the witness stand, can we believe her now ???  Is this another ploy of Cindy’s to save her daughter from the world’s hatred?

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/07/perjurer-cindy-anthony-writing-book-supporting-defense-claims-about-george/

----------

I had a feeling it was Cindy Anthony writing that book. ughhhhhhhhh  They all need to be locked away.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Ya right, come on....bunch of bull crap.
Why didn't ca throw him in jail, I sure would of.
It's not true period.....
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

Some people Will say and do anything to profit ion the death of little Caylee. So that means she perjured herself even more on the witness stand?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 02:33:21 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Valez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::

Jane calling a wingnut a wingnut.... so terribly redundant. She needs to sit down, stfu, and have a nice carrot. ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2011, 02:33:41 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Velez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::


There is a thing called free speech in this country. The MSM does not tell us when to begin or stop our outrage. Unlike the MSM, this is not about ratings. This is about justice for little Caylee, who got none from a Ship of Fools.

The anger we have is not to attack jurors physically, it is it get justice and be pissed that people charged with that duty did not feel it was their job to do so.

JVM can put a sock in it. Go about your sensationsit coverage of the next case ... WE THE PEOPLE will work for Justice for Caylee.

Right on!!!



Or it could be write on too!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: labubske on July 09, 2011, 02:39:14 PM
http://nowscape.com/fija/_coord.htm

FIJA STATE COORDINATORS AND CONTACTS

FLORIDA *Bob Matthews (904) 489-4898  
      14888 SW 111th St.  
      Dunnelon, FL 34432  
 
     Ken Wise    (813)239-9557  
     Jon Asfour    (904)378-6370  
     James M. Ray  (305)667-2281  
     Michael Holland  (904)375-6121  
     Dr. Bruce Vinikas (407)869-9900

What are these for???

The dude that was arrested during jury selection was handing out FIJA pamphlets.

I was thinking that after the post that I read earlier about FIJA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 02:40:15 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Velez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::


There is a thing called free speech in this country. The MSM does not tell us when to begin or stop our outrage. Unlike the MSM, this is not about ratings. This is about justice for little Caylee, who got none from a Ship of Fools.

The anger we have is not to attack jurors physically, it is it get justice and be pissed that people charged with that duty did not feel it was their job to do so.

JVM can put a sock in it. Go about your sensationsit coverage of the next case ... WE THE PEOPLE will work for Justice for Caylee.

Right on!!!



Or it could be write on too!!


I agree. At the bottom of my business cards is printed, "The write word can make a difference."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 02:41:43 PM
Their a fb page, that is trying to stop the Caylee's Law.
Call team casey anthony..........

That won't last long. 
I'm got a feeling,  authorities might want to look at ALL these ppl.
 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 02:45:43 PM
Their a fb page, that is trying to stop the Caylee's Law.
Call team casey anthony..........

That won't last long. 
I'm got a feeling,  authorities might want to look at ALL these ppl.
 ::CowboySmiley::

It looks like they are going to get 'rolled on'

Should Florida pass 'Caylee's Law,' making failure to report a missing child a felony?

Yes (91%)

No (9%)

http://www.cfnews13.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on July 09, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Velez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::

There is a thing called free speech in this country. The MSM does not tell us when to begin or stop our outrage. Unlike the MSM, this is not about ratings. This is about justice for little Caylee, who got none from a Ship of Fools.

The anger we have is not to attack jurors physically, it is it get justice and be pissed that people charged with that duty did not feel it was their job to do so.

JVM can put a sock in it. Go about your sensationsit coverage of the next case ... WE THE PEOPLE will work for Justice for Caylee.


It would appear to me that these 12 jurors who did not learn how to connect the dots in kindergarden are the types of people manufacturers have in mind when they put labels on my products like my hair dryer that says do not use in shower or my hot iron that says do not insert in any orifices, now I know there are really people out there who need these type of instructions, too bad the judge didn't realize that as well. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 02:50:21 PM
Their a fb page, that is trying to stop the Caylee's Law.
Call team casey anthony..........

That won't last long. 
I'm got a feeling,  authorities might want to look at ALL these ppl.
 ::CowboySmiley::

It looks like they are going to get 'rolled on'

Should Florida pass 'Caylee's Law,' making failure to report a missing child a felony?

Yes (91%)

No (9%)

http://www.cfnews13.com/

Btw, if you find it please don't post on it...
Might get a virus, plus someone just wants it in the news..

Their's not one good reason NOT to want it passed.

In less you plan on killing/selling your kids or just plain out right don't want to watch them all the time.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO


Did she get the dna test yet? What was her name i want to do some of my own research

Do you mean the new grandma?  She claims that Caylee may  is her grand daughter?  A photo of Mr. Duggan is posted next to
Caylee.  I apologize if this has already been posted.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/28/caylee-anthony-s-daddy-solving-the-riddle.html


Is This Caylee's Daddy?

Diane Dimond

The great mystery of the Casey Anthony trial: Who fathered the 2-year-old she’s accused of murdering? Diane Dimond reveals the person whose DNA may finally solve the riddle.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/28/caylee-anthony-s-daddy-solving-the-riddle.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 02:57:03 PM
Cindy Anthony's book company - I have heard unconfirmed reports it is going to be Simon & Schuster

http://www.simonandschuster.com/about/contact_us


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2011, 03:02:23 PM
Have a good day Monkey's,

I am off the puter, I can not do two things at once :) 

Vinnie Politan always reminds us to hug the kids, good, hug the kids.  I find it is more important to watch our words to the kids.
They remember what was said and how it was used in what context.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 09, 2011, 03:02:48 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO


As many people as Casey slept around with I would imagine she didn't tell him. She was engaged to Jesse at the time and had him believing he was the father until the DNA test. I would guess he didn't know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Desdemona on July 09, 2011, 03:04:43 PM
The failure to understand or follow jury instructions is NOT jury nullification PER SE.  Jury nullification is much more than not following the rules. It is the conscious decision that the law is that the person is guilty, that the state has proved their case and yet, you find the law objectionable and therefore, acquit. In this case the jury has said that they did not feel the prosecution proved their case. They believed that there had to be a CAUSE of death proven. This was a mistake or failure to listen to the instructions on their part - not a thought out decision that the law was objectionable.  Therefore, it was NOT jury nullification. It was pure stupidity.

Currently, there is almost no jurisdiction you can argue jury nullification in to the jury. The courts have repeatedly ruled that the jury may not be told about being able to nullify. The simple fact is, however, jury nullification is and was designed to be, the last protection of the people from unjust government.  Remember too that this was not a case of anti death penalty since the jury had the right to give the sentencing recommendation to the court and knew this.

I know that many of you feel that this is a case of JN. I just really do not see it. I really do not believe that the jury gave enough thought to the verdict and the law to make that choice. I really really think it was pure and simply that they did not want to do the job and wanted to go home. I think a close second is that the jury was "gotten to" somehow.
My post was not meant to attack the idea of jury nullification.  It was to explore the possibility that someone may have unscrupulously used the idea of jury nullification to swing, seed, contaminate, or tamper with the jury in a criminal manner, which should be investigated. 

As for the death penalty bit, well -- Juror Jennifer Ford mentioned the jury not being willing to give a "punishment" if they were not 100% confident of Casey's guilt.  This is directly counter to the instructions Judge Perry gave the jury; they were advised that they were not to consider possible punishment in their deliberations.  They were to ONLY consider the facts and evidence and use their own reasoning.
 
On that note, Jennifer claimed that there was NO EVIDENCE from the State.  To most observers there did appear to be a preponderance of evidence that Casey was guilty indeed.  And yet, the jury does not seem to have examined or thoughtfully considered any of that evidence.
 
On the other hand, they do seem to have unanimously entertained and felt more able to very quickly accept the wild (and IMO untrue) theory JB unveiled in his opening statement... but which he did not present any evidence to prove!  IMO, it just does not make any sense, unless there was some explanation that has not yet been revealed. 

The jury pretty obviously did not follow the judge's instructions.  I was trying to figure out why a jury might do that, other than just stupidity, and my research led me to a controversial subject I was not familiar with:  jury nullification as a Constitutionally rendered and protected 'power' of a jury, along with the activism that could be exploited to "get to" a jury somehow.

Hope I did not offend you!  People certainly do have widely differing beliefs about this kind of thing.  In fact, I saw that several details and finer points in some of the explanations I'm finding online are not exactly the same as those you spelled out.  Thank you for providing your knowledge on this subject.

You suggested "stupidity" or "gotten to somehow" as possible explanations for the jury's baffling behavior and verdict.  In my earlier post, I was simply trying to explore that second possibility.  Grasping for an answer here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 03:20:47 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: DonFL on July 09, 2011, 03:21:04 PM
Perjurer Cindy Anthony Writing Book Supporting Defense Claims About George

According to a cousin, Casey Anthony’s mother, Cindy, is writing a book in which she will explain how the defense claims about George in the opening statement are true.

A 2nd Cousin to Cindy called into a Houston, TX radio show (link below) stating how Cindy had a ”conference” call with only her side of the family giving details confirming to  them George’s participation as the Defense claimed in their opening statement at the murder trial.

Cindy will release these new details in a book already in the works ….  Cindy lied on the witness stand, can we believe her now ???  Is this another ploy of Cindy’s to save her daughter from the world’s hatred?

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/07/perjurer-cindy-anthony-writing-book-supporting-defense-claims-about-george/

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I had a feeling it was Cindy Anthony writing that book. ughhhhhhhhh  They all need to be locked away.

I wouldn't read a friggin postcard any of the Anthonys wrote.  I could never believe a thing from them.  I think we should write to the prosecutor's office and demand that Cindy faces charges.  The law is the law and she broke it!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seemeatthebeach on July 09, 2011, 03:29:01 PM
Perjurer Cindy Anthony Writing Book Supporting Defense Claims About George

According to a cousin, Casey Anthony’s mother, Cindy, is writing a book in which she will explain how the defense claims about George in the opening statement are true.

A 2nd Cousin to Cindy called into a Houston, TX radio show (link below) stating how Cindy had a ”conference” call with only her side of the family giving details confirming to  them George’s participation as the Defense claimed in their opening statement at the murder trial.

Cindy will release these new details in a book already in the works ….  Cindy lied on the witness stand, can we believe her now ???  Is this another ploy of Cindy’s to save her daughter from the world’s hatred?

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2011/07/perjurer-cindy-anthony-writing-book-supporting-defense-claims-about-george/

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I had a feeling it was Cindy Anthony writing that book. ughhhhhhhhh  They all need to be locked away.

We all know Cindy is Queen liar. Hell, the State proved it in court ON THE RECORD!
Won't read any book Cindy writes as we know it will be pure FICTION!
This family is worse than evil!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Desdemona on July 09, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
A jury is a body of persons selected according to the law and sworn to inquire into or determine the facts on a question or questions --- When the facts are added up in this case, I just don't see how common sense did not prevail.   That is what is making people angry--the obvious was ignored.   It is truly frustrating. 

The jury system is the best in the world and accepting a jury's verdict is what we have to do, but this verdict seemed non-sensical to the max.  The Prosecution presented a fine & intelligent case.  The Defense, on the other hand, was chaotic, sensate, and goofy.    Wondering about jury rigging isn't all that much of a leap, in my view.
In my long post on page 2 of this thread, there are links to arguments on the part of certain proponents of jury nullification who assert that violating the juror's oath is acceptable or justifiable perjury, or that the oath is taken under duress and is therefore invalid, or that the oath is illegally given or unconstitutional and is therefore moot.

So some people who endorse JN feel that the oath is meaningless and that their purpose or right to exercise their perceived constitutional 'power' outweighs the little white lie, or forgivable perjury of violating the jurors' oath.

Here is a snippet, but the question of whether it is illegal or unconscionable to violate the juror's oath is discussed in more detail at the link:

"If the wording of the oath poses some conflict with the jury's constitutional prerogative to nullify, it is clear which one must yield the right of way. ..."  http://www.lawandliberty.org/jurynul2.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 09, 2011, 03:34:28 PM
If Cindy writes a book implicating George, supporting the DT opening statement, then IMHO she is as deranged as her daughter.  I have felt bad for both Cindy and George off and on throughout this whole ordeal - they may be enablers and liars but they're not killers. 

Somebody in Cindy's family needs to let her know that the game is over, and she needs to quit trying to protect and/or reconcile with Casey, and start telling the truth.   GAME OVER, CINDY!! GIVE IT UP!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: theboyzmom on July 09, 2011, 03:45:18 PM
The failure to understand or follow jury instructions is NOT jury nullification PER SE.  Jury nullification is much more than not following the rules. It is the conscious decision that the law is that the person is guilty, that the state has proved their case and yet, you find the law objectionable and therefore, acquit. In this case the jury has said that they did not feel the prosecution proved their case. They believed that there had to be a CAUSE of death proven. This was a mistake or failure to listen to the instructions on their part - not a thought out decision that the law was objectionable.  Therefore, it was NOT jury nullification. It was pure stupidity.

Currently, there is almost no jurisdiction you can argue jury nullification in to the jury. The courts have repeatedly ruled that the jury may not be told about being able to nullify. The simple fact is, however, jury nullification is and was designed to be, the last protection of the people from unjust government.  Remember too that this was not a case of anti death penalty since the jury had the right to give the sentencing recommendation to the court and knew this.

I know that many of you feel that this is a case of JN. I just really do not see it. I really do not believe that the jury gave enough thought to the verdict and the law to make that choice. I really really think it was pure and simply that they did not want to do the job and wanted to go home. I think a close second is that the jury was "gotten to" somehow.
My post was not meant to attack the idea of jury nullification.  It was to explore the possibility that someone may have unscrupulously used the idea of jury nullification to swing, seed, contaminate, or tamper with the jury in a criminal manner, which should be investigated. 

As for the death penalty bit, well -- Juror Jennifer Ford mentioned the jury not being willing to give a "punishment" if they were not 100% confident of Casey's guilt.  This is directly counter to the instructions Judge Perry gave the jury; they were advised that they were not to consider possible punishment in their deliberations.  They were to ONLY consider the facts and evidence and use their own reasoning.
 
On that note, Jennifer claimed that there was NO EVIDENCE from the State.  To most observers there did appear to be a preponderance of evidence that Casey was guilty indeed.  And yet, the jury does not seem to have examined or thoughtfully considered any of that evidence.
 
On the other hand, they do seem to have unanimously entertained and felt more able to very quickly accept the wild (and IMO untrue) theory JB unveiled in his opening statement... but which he did not present any evidence to prove!  IMO, it just does not make any sense, unless there was some explanation that has not yet been revealed. 

The jury pretty obviously did not follow the judge's instructions.  I was trying to figure out why a jury might do that, other than just stupidity, and my research led me to a controversial subject I was not familiar with:  jury nullification as a Constitutionally rendered and protected 'power' of a jury, along with the activism that could be exploited to "get to" a jury somehow.

Hope I did not offend you!  People certainly do have widely differing beliefs about this kind of thing.  In fact, I saw that several details and finer points in some of the explanations I'm finding online are not exactly the same as those you spelled out.  Thank you for providing your knowledge on this subject.

You suggested "stupidity" or "gotten to somehow" as possible explanations for the jury's baffling behavior and verdict.  In my earlier post, I was simply trying to explore that second possibility.  Grasping for an answer here.

Des - you did not offend me at all. I just would hate to see a very good concept - one that has a constitutional purpose - be blamed for a verdict like this. I feel strongly it was not jury nullification - but if I find out otherwise I will certainly admit I was wrong!  I love to take a time to explain to people what jury nullification is - for fun google the Scopes Monkey trial - interesting read!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: sharon on July 09, 2011, 03:45:36 PM
Next thing we know, Cindy will be saying that she, too, is 'terrified' of George and that is why she kept it a secret.....until now (where are the :rolling eyes:) 


I don't think the public outrage is over. I think it will sustain through Zenaida's case, the states's potential suit for reimbursement, TES's potential suit for reimbursement, the IRS, the potential grandma's potential civil suit, maybe the Grund's for defamation, etc.....but I still hope that's just 'busy' stuff until something more earth shattering can be done against Casey (I do not mean any type of physical harm -- I'm referring to legal)

I have no legal cells in my brain chemistry, so I am not aware of all the possiblities that can provide the 'mistrial' opportunties, etc.,  so thanks to all of you that are educating me :-)

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 03:48:03 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-a-casey-anthony-interview-209342#comments
How a Casey Anthony Interview Could Backfire on News Orgs
7:36 PM 7/8/2011 by Marisa Guthrie

"It’s complicated any time you’re paying somebody who everybody thinks is a killer,” says one booker.

Three days after being acquitted of capital murder charges in the 2008 death of her two-year-old daughter Caylee Anthony, Casey Anthony is officially a pariah.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: theboyzmom on July 09, 2011, 03:51:02 PM
A jury is a body of persons selected according to the law and sworn to inquire into or determine the facts on a question or questions --- When the facts are added up in this case, I just don't see how common sense did not prevail.   That is what is making people angry--the obvious was ignored.   It is truly frustrating. 

The jury system is the best in the world and accepting a jury's verdict is what we have to do, but this verdict seemed non-sensical to the max.  The Prosecution presented a fine & intelligent case.  The Defense, on the other hand, was chaotic, sensate, and goofy.    Wondering about jury rigging isn't all that much of a leap, in my view.
In my long post on page 2 of this thread, there are links to arguments on the part of certain proponents of jury nullification who assert that violating the juror's oath is acceptable or justifiable perjury, or that the oath is taken under duress and is therefore invalid, or that the oath is illegally given or unconstitutional and is therefore moot.

So some people who endorse JN feel that the oath is meaningless and that their purpose or right to exercise their perceived constitutional 'power' outweighs the little white lie, or forgivable perjury of violating the jurors' oath.

Here is a snippet, but the question of whether it is illegal or unconscionable to violate the juror's oath is discussed in more detail at the link:

"If the wording of the oath poses some conflict with the jury's constitutional prerogative to nullify, it is clear which one must yield the right of way. ..."  http://www.lawandliberty.org/jurynul2.htm


Most JN proponents would take offense at the implication that they are not obeying instructions. Rather, the constitutional power you speak of is the power to keep the government in check. That is the duty of a jury. It is not to get guilty people off the hook - rather it is nullify (or cancel) the laws that do not comport with the Constitution or when a prosecutor fails to charge correctly. JN is very important in today's world as the government, in many cases, has taken to working as if someone is guilty of something so we will charge them with something to put them in jail. It sounds like a noble idea but I strongly believe that charges should match crimes. Take the Leona Helmsley case - she paid 100% of her taxes (in fact more than she should have) but she did not designate them on the right line on the tax forms - so the government charged her with tax fraud - to me that is wrong. If you do not pay your taxes or try to defraud it is one thing, but to pay the right amount and have an accountant screw up and then you go to jail is WRONG.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 03:53:10 PM
925,000 and counting............................. ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyDance::

http://www.change.org/petitions/create-caylees-law?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=own_wall (http://www.change.org/petitions/create-caylees-law?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=own_wall)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 03:53:39 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/casey-anthony-cash-trial/story?id=14035804
Casey Anthony and Others May Cash in on the Trial, Incensing the Public
By OLIVIA KATRANDJIAN
July 9, 2011



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
For some reason I can't put up a post in PA and NJersey for caylee's law...both states have said, fueled by verdict anger, push for 'Caylee's Law' starts in Pa., N.J.

So what do I do with the link? and article?

 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: klaasend on July 09, 2011, 04:12:41 PM
For some reason I can't put up a post in PA and NJersey for caylee's law...both states have said, fueled by verdict anger, push for 'Caylee's Law' starts in Pa., N.J.

So what do I do with the link? and article?

 ::HelloKitty::

You need to start a new topic which will open the screen where you will have to put a subject, then you can post the link in the comment section just like a regular post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 09, 2011, 04:28:52 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 04:29:56 PM
http://drdrew.blogs.cnn.com/
Video with Tracy McLaughlin
Inside The Anthony Home
July 9th, 2011
01:59 PM ET


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 04:32:41 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


OMG......got to be a joke.........
NO one on earth is going to believe that...
How stupid do they think the american public is??????
Get out of town....... ::MonkeyHaHa::
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 04:32:59 PM
Is it possible that Baez worked with ABC for the first juror interview in the event of a not guilty verdict?  The juror(s) were told (obviously I'm reaching here - but could still happen) after selected but before sequestered. That "trip" and others were in the back of their minds.  Or even someone working for ABC etc got to a juror.  Let's face it.  An interview with a "Not Guilty" juror pulls alot more viewers than a "Guilty" one.  I think someone should look into the time they were selected to the time they were sequestered.  Heck look into them all - bank accounts & everything.

Been working on it since I brought it up last night.

as soon as my munchkin goes to sleep tonight I'm going to hit the web too Titch!  What are your thoughts?  Do you think the media got to them before they were sequestered? Baez?  Who else could have?  The Anthonys?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: klaasend on July 09, 2011, 04:34:04 PM
Unreal


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 04:34:19 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


OMG......got to be a joke.........
NO one on earth is going to believe that...
How stupid do they think the american public is??????
Get out of town....... ::MonkeyHaHa::
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Another thing, George can be arrested then for murder......
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 04:36:51 PM
That's one way of getting rid of George so ca doesn't have to give him half of everything when he's in jail and ca divorces him.................
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 04:37:49 PM
Oh, and something else that sets my hinkey meter off about these jurors is the fact that the jurors didn't want to give a press conference immediately following the verdict! Why? The media room was all set up for them and included numbered & named seats for certain media that they approved of! We were told it's bc they didn't feel safe, or they were shaken & had to calm down, or JBP didn't think it was a good idea bc of the public opinion. My question is this: I understand some jurors may not have wanted to come forward, but the jurors that didn't mind going on national news stations immediately following the verdict didn't seem to have a problem...so...Why couldn't those jurors, including the alternates, go to the media room and allow the jurors that wanted to remain anonymous just go home?

Was it because they knew they weren't getting paid if they did the interview in the court's media room instead of by the various media networks?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 04:39:35 PM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Velez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::

There is a thing called free speech in this country. The MSM does not tell us when to begin or stop our outrage. Unlike the MSM, this is not about ratings. This is about justice for little Caylee, who got none from a Ship of Fools.

The anger we have is not to attack jurors physically, it is it get justice and be pissed that people charged with that duty did not feel it was their job to do so.

JVM can put a sock in it. Go about your sensationsit coverage of the next case ... WE THE PEOPLE will work for Justice for Caylee.


It would appear to me that these 12 jurors who did not learn how to connect the dots in kindergarden are the types of people manufacturers have in mind when they put labels on my products like my hair dryer that says do not use in shower or my hot iron that says do not insert in any orifices, now I know there are really people out there who need these type of instructions, too bad the judge didn't realize that as well. JMO
too funny 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 09, 2011, 04:41:34 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


OMG......got to be a joke.........
NO one on earth is going to believe that...
How stupid do they think the american public is??????
Get out of town....... ::MonkeyHaHa::
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Another thing, George can be arrested then for murder......
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

yeh, the word "incredible" comes to mind.
Like I said before, they need to GIVE IT UP! Now apparently Cindy has dragged some more family members into this poo....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: ISpy on July 09, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
-- Long Post Warning -- Disclaimer: No disrespect intended toward any political beliefs.

Everyone is puzzling over the odd remarks being made by jurors who have spoken out so far.  Were they stupid?  What can explain their baffling verdict that flew in the face of all common sense, the polls, the pundits' predictions, etc..?  Was there juror misconduct?  A planted "stealth juror" or two?  Jury tampering?  Why did Baez seem so chipper when the jury was sent to deliberate, when he should have been shaking in his shoes?  And so upbeat when court reconvened to hear their verdict?

Well, regarding the "Runaway Jury" Theory, and whether the jurors' actions will be, or should be, investigated, it really stands out to me that the stated goal of the DT was to "save Casey's life:"
**SNIPPED***
Desi-I'm reading you loud and clear. Someone needs to investigate who knows who /who had contact with whom prior to jury selection and after selection, but prior to sequestration. Someone needs to investigate which way our jurors were leaning prior to being chosen, particularly Russell Huekler.  Let me clearly preface this by saying I am not accusing Mr. Huekler of anything.  I am saying that is it is not unheard of in educational circles for an emotionally vested educator to hijack a public event (such as a parade, Veteran's Memorial service, jury duty, court case, etc.) to further their cause or to provoke "public discourse" on a controversial subject.  It is also not unheard for sympathetic supporters of a cause to derail a case. Our constitution needs to be amended to include a law binding jurors to obey judicial instructions to the jury, complete with long-ranging penalties for failure to do so.  The Constitutional delegates, placing a premium on personal honor and integrity themselves, failed to foresee future generations lacking those same qualities (specifically in this case, future jurists). They incorrectly assumed that those same societal values would be taught by one generation to the next. The right to be tried by a jury of one's peers never included those peers deciding to let the offender go free simply because jury members did not want to be inconvenienced.  That's my opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: ISpy on July 09, 2011, 04:48:06 PM
Desi- This was an A+ post!  Thank your for "doing your homework".  It is a pleasure reading your contributions, as always.

Sorry everybody for the drive-by post.  Just had a few minutes to check in.  I look forward to reading you later!  Have a good afternoon!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 04:49:30 PM
A jury is a body of persons selected according to the law and sworn to inquire into or determine the facts on a question or questions --- When the facts are added up in this case, I just don't see how common sense did not prevail.   That is what is making people angry--the obvious was ignored.   It is truly frustrating. 

The jury system is the best in the world and accepting a jury's verdict is what we have to do, but this verdict seemed non-sensical to the max.  The Prosecution presented a fine & intelligent case.  The Defense, on the other hand, was chaotic, sensate, and goofy.    Wondering about jury rigging isn't all that much of a leap, in my view.
In my long post on page 2 of this thread, there are links to arguments on the part of certain proponents of jury nullification who assert that violating the juror's oath is acceptable or justifiable perjury, or that the oath is taken under duress and is therefore invalid, or that the oath is illegally given or unconstitutional and is therefore moot.

So some people who endorse JN feel that the oath is meaningless and that their purpose or right to exercise their perceived constitutional 'power' outweighs the little white lie, or forgivable perjury of violating the jurors' oath.

Here is a snippet, but the question of whether it is illegal or unconscionable to violate the juror's oath is discussed in more detail at the link:

"If the wording of the oath poses some conflict with the jury's constitutional prerogative to nullify, it is clear which one must yield the right of way. ..."  http://www.lawandliberty.org/jurynul2.htm


These are my opinions:

Why take an oath if it doesn't mean anything to the oath-taker.
Laws are crafted and passed in legislatures--state and federal. 

To deliberately falsely take an oath is lying.
Laws should be obeyed unless/until newer laws are replaced.
Nobody is above the law---state or federal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 04:51:17 PM
Is it possible that Baez worked with ABC for the first juror interview in the event of a not guilty verdict?  The juror(s) were told (obviously I'm reaching here - but could still happen) after selected but before sequestered. That "trip" and others were in the back of their minds.  Or even someone working for ABC etc got to a juror.  Let's face it.  An interview with a "Not Guilty" juror pulls alot more viewers than a "Guilty" one.  I think someone should look into the time they were selected to the time they were sequestered.  Heck look into them all - bank accounts & everything.

Been working on it since I brought it up last night.

as soon as my munchkin goes to sleep tonight I'm going to hit the web too Titch!  What are your thoughts?  Do you think the media got to them before they were sequestered? Baez?  Who else could have?  The Anthonys?

My honest opinion, serious humble opinion, is that several advocates knew this would be a dp case. The media sensationalized this case and the public outcry was fierce. There were, still are, a ton of missing and/or murdered children, yet Caylee became the poster child. Because of how heinous the crime scene was, the dp was added. If the dp wasn't brought to the table, all these human rights groups & legal experts wouldn't have gotten involved to the extent that they did. I think it boils down to everything human rights. They do not believe in the dp no matter how horrific the murder. These activists believe the dp is murder, so they advocate against it.

I think there's more to Casey's dysfunction than what we've seen so far. This entire family gives me the heebie jeebies!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 04:51:22 PM
A jury is a body of persons selected according to the law and sworn to inquire into or determine the facts on a question or questions --- When the facts are added up in this case, I just don't see how common sense did not prevail.   That is what is making people angry--the obvious was ignored.   It is truly frustrating. 

The jury system is the best in the world and accepting a jury's verdict is what we have to do, but this verdict seemed non-sensical to the max.  The Prosecution presented a fine & intelligent case.  The Defense, on the other hand, was chaotic, sensate, and goofy.    Wondering about jury rigging isn't all that much of a leap, in my view.
In my long post on page 2 of this thread, there are links to arguments on the part of certain proponents of jury nullification who assert that violating the juror's oath is acceptable or justifiable perjury, or that the oath is taken under duress and is therefore invalid, or that the oath is illegally given or unconstitutional and is therefore moot.

So some people who endorse JN feel that the oath is meaningless and that their purpose or right to exercise their perceived constitutional 'power' outweighs the little white lie, or forgivable perjury of violating the jurors' oath.

Here is a snippet, but the question of whether it is illegal or unconscionable to violate the juror's oath is discussed in more detail at the link:

"If the wording of the oath poses some conflict with the jury's constitutional prerogative to nullify, it is clear which one must yield the right of way. ..."  http://www.lawandliberty.org/jurynul2.htm


These are my opinions:

Why take an oath if it doesn't mean anything to the oath-taker.
Laws are crafted and passed in legislatures--state and federal. 

To deliberately falsely take an oath is lying.
Laws should be obeyed unless/until newer laws are replaced.
Nobody is above the law---state or federal.


***   "...newer laws replace the older laws."    ***


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 04:52:08 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing (http://twitter.com/#!/bobkealing)
bobkealing bob kealing
Just passing along what Mark Lippman just told me“@Judy3113: @bobkealing and when do any of them tell the truth.”
50 minutes ago
bob kealing
bobkealing bob kealing
I got a text from #CindyAnthony attorney. When asked if she has a book deal w/Simon and Schuster he said "not my clients." Denies it.
53 minutes ago
bob kealing
bobkealing bob kealing
I've not heard that.“@freelancewoman: @bobkealing is it true simonschuster offers cindyanthony $3mill bookdeal?
1 hour ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 04:53:54 PM
If Cindy writes a book implicating George, supporting the DT opening statement, then IMHO she is as deranged as her daughter.  I have felt bad for both Cindy and George off and on throughout this whole ordeal - they may be enablers and liars but they're not killers. 

Somebody in Cindy's family needs to let her know that the game is over, and she needs to quit trying to protect and/or reconcile with Casey, and start telling the truth.   GAME OVER, CINDY!! GIVE IT UP!

If Cinndy writes a book like that, I think that's grounds for divorce for George--LOL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 04:55:02 PM
That's one way of getting rid of George so ca doesn't have to give him half of everything when he's in jail and ca divorces him.................
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Or alimony since he hasn't maintained a job. Remember, they were going to divorce but Cindy couldn't afford to divorce him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 04:56:08 PM
Further to post #209, here's more...

http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main

TimeWarner

TV
Network: CW Network (50% with CBS).

Cable: Home Box Office, Inc. (HBO, Cinemax, HBO Sports, HBO Pay-Per-View, HBO on Demand, Cinemax Multiplexes, Cinemax on Demand, HBO HD, Cinemax HD, as well as HBO channels around the world), TruTV, TBS, TBS HD, Boomerang, Cartoon Network, Turner Classic Movies, TCM Europe, TCM Asia Pacific, TNT, TNT HD, CNN Airport Network, CNN International, CNN Headline News, CNN en Español, CNN en Español Radio, CNN Pipeline.

Regional and Local Channels: NY1 News, NY1 Noticias, Sports Net, R News (Rochester, NY), Turner South, Capital News 9 Albany, MetroSports, News 8 Austin, News 10 Now — Syracuse, News 14 Carolina-Charlotte, News 14 Carolina-Raleigh.

International: CNN International, CNN Headline News in Asia Pacific, CNN Headline News in Latin America, CNN+, CETV (36%)(China), CNNj, CNN Turk, CNN-IBN, Cartoon Network Europe, Cartoon Network Latin America, Cartoon Network Asia Pacific, Cartoon Network Japan (70% share), Imagen, TCM Classic Hollywood in Latin America, TNT Latin America, TNT Serie, truTV, Nuts TV, Cartoonito, Pogo, 7 networks in Latin America.

Production and Distribution: Warner Bros. Television Group, Warner Home Video, Warner Horizon Television, Warner Bros. Animation, Warner Bros. Digital Distribution, Telepictures Productions, HBO Video, HBO Independent Productions, New Line Television, Williams St. Studio, Cartoon Network Studios, CNN Newsource, Central Media Enterprises (31%).

Programming: CNN Newsroom, Live From The Situation Room, Lou Dobbs Tonight, Larry King Live, Anderson Cooper 360, NBA Games, MLB Playoffs, NASCAR, Entourage, Kids' WB, American Morning.

Internet
America Online: AOL, AOL.com, AOL Instant Messenger, AOL Wireless, AOL Music Now, AOL Local, McAfee VirusScan Online (bundled with AOL services), AOL by Phone, AOL Call Alert, AOL CityGuide, AOL PassCode, AOL Voicemail, AOL Europe (Germany and Luxembourg), America Online Latino (Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Chile, AOL Global Web Services, AOL Latino).

Other Online Holdings: CNN.com, CNNMoney.com, CNNStudentNews.com, MapQuest, Moviefone, Movietickets.com, RED, Advertising.com, CompuServe, ICQ, KOL, SI.com, People.com, Pipeline, GameTap, CartoonNetwork.com, DCComics.com, Time.com, VeryFunnyAds.com, Cwtv.com, Golf.com, Truveo, Weblogs, TMZ.com, Momlogic.com, AIM, Bebo.com, NASCAR.com, NASCAR.com en Espanol, PGA.com, PGATour.com, Play On!, superdeluxe.com, MyRecipes.com, MyHomeIdeas.com, ThisOldHouse.com, buy.at, MedioTiempo.com, Goowy, Sphere Source, Mousebreaker.com.

Time Warner "operates" NBA.com until 2016.

Film
Production: Subsidiary The Warner Bros. Entertainment Group owns: Warner Bros. Pictures, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock, Warner Premiere, Picturehouse, Warner Bros. International Cinemas, Warner Independent Pictures, a joint venture with Village Roadshow Pictures, and a joint venture with Alcon Entertainment.

Distribution: Distribution to more than 125 international territories.

Publishing
Comics: DC Comics, E.C. Publications, Inc. (publisher of MAD magazine).

Time, Inc. controls: Time Warner Book Group (with publishing companies The Mysterious Press, Time Warner Book Group UK, Warner Faith, Warner Vision, Warner Business Books, Aspect, and Little, Brown and Company (includes Little, Brown Adult Trade, Little, Brown Books for Young Readers, Back Bay, and Bulfinch Press); Oxmoor House, Inc., Sunset Books, Books-of-the-Month Club, Inc., Southern Progress Corporation, Grupo Editorial Expansion (publishes 15 magazines in Mexico).

More Than 150 Magazines: People, Time, Sports Illustrated, Fortune, This Old House, 25 Beautiful Homes, 25 Beautiful Kitchens, 4x4, Aeroplane, All You, Amateur Gardening, Amateur Photographer, Ambientes, Angler’s Mail, Audi Magazine, Balance, Bird Keeper, Business 2.0, Cage & Aviary Birds, Caravan, Chat—Its Fate, Chilango, Classic Boat, Coastal Living, Cooking Light, Cottage Living, Country Homes & Interiors, Country Life, Cycle Sport, Cycling Weekly, Decanter, Entertainment Weekly, Essence (joint venture), Essentials, EXP, Expansion, European Boat Builder, Eventing, Family Circle (U.K.), Fortune Asia, Fortune Europe, FSB: Fortune Small Business, Golf Magazine, Golf Monthly, Guitar, Hair, Health, Hi-Fi News, Homes & Gardens, Horse, Horse & Hound, Ideal Home, In Style, In Style U.K., International Boat Industry, Land Rover World, Life, Manufactura, Marie Claire (joint venture), MBR-Mountain Bike Rider, MINI, MiniWorld, Model Collector, Money, Motor Boat & Yachting, Motor Boats Monthly, Motor Caravan, NME, Now, Nuts, Obras, Outdoor Life, Park Home & Holiday Caravan, People en Espanol, Pick Me Up, Practical Boat Owner, Practical Parenting, Prediction, Progressive Farmer, Quien, Quo (joint venture), Racecar Engineering, Real Simple, Rugby World, Ships Monthly, Shoot Monthly, Shooting Times, Soaplife, Southern Accents, Southern Living, Sporting Gun, Sports Illustrated for Kids, Stamp Magazine, Sunset, Superbike, Synapse, Targeted Media, Teen People, The Field, The Golf, The Golf+, The Railway Magazine, The Shooting Gazette, This Old House Ventures, Time Asia, Time Atlantic, Time Australia, Time Canada, Time for Kids, Time, Inc. Content Solutions, Time Pacific, TV & Satellite Week, TV Easy, TVTimes, Uncut, VolksWorld, Vuelo, Wallpaper, Webuser, Wedding, What Camera, What Digital Camera, What’s on TV, Who, Woman, Woman & Home, Woman’s Own, Woman”s Weekly, World Soccer.

Joint Ventures: Groupe Marie Claire (U.K.).

Other
Marketing businesses: Synapse Group Inc., Targeted Media, Inc., Media Networks, Inc., Third Screen Media, LLC, ADTECH AGTACODA LLC, Quigo Technologies.

Other: CNN Mobile, CNNRadio, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment Inc., Monolith Productions (game developer), GameTap, Warner Bros. Consumer Products Inc. (licensing), HBO Properties (licensing and merchandising), HBO distributed over AT&T Wireless, Warner Bros. Animation (including Hanna-Barbera and Looney Tunes), Time Warner Investments, Winamp.

I am at a loss here..why is Time Warner included in anything to do with Simon Schuster or CBS? 

They have no affiliation with either..other then 50% ownership of the CW Network.  And lets face it the CW Network is never going to be putting anything to do this whole saga on their network..it's not what they do.

CNN does come under the TIME WARNER CORPORATE UMBRELLA..but is set up under Ted Turners holdings/previous holdings.  If you are mad at CNN and their business units then fire off an email to Ted Turner.

What I find interesting is all the money ABC..which is owned by Disney...has paid to the A's and Casey since 2008..and now they
may have her first interview?  No link just heard a blurb about that..which is totally rumor at this point.

I would be very surprised if Simon Schuster had anything to do with the A's..usually the bio's/autobio's they do are Presidents, positive impact people..and those are the ones that get the big $$$ advances.  I just can't see any major publisher giving Cindy big bucks to write anything or tell her story..especially after she lied on the stand.  It's not like she has become a beloved national figure.  If she got money it would be for telling Caylee's story..and really there is enough in the public domain to be able to do that without Cindy's cooperation. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 04:58:00 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


Please, no---Texas has enough problems! [  However, Texans wouldn't put up with all those Cindy/Casey shenanigans.  LOL ]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: wreck on July 09, 2011, 04:59:48 PM
Oh, and something else that sets my hinkey meter off about these jurors is the fact that the jurors didn't want to give a press conference immediately following the verdict! Why? The media room was all set up for them and included numbered & named seats for certain media that they approved of! We were told it's bc they didn't feel safe, or they were shaken & had to calm down, or JBP didn't think it was a good idea bc of the public opinion. My question is this: I understand some jurors may not have wanted to come forward, but the jurors that didn't mind going on national news stations immediately following the verdict didn't seem to have a problem...so...Why couldn't those jurors, including the alternates, go to the media room and allow the jurors that wanted to remain anonymous just go home?

Was it because they knew they weren't getting paid if they did the interview in the court's media room instead of by the various media networks?
Absolutely ......... they were not being paid in the public press conference.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: west941 on July 09, 2011, 05:01:16 PM
Hi all,

So I am not sure what he can do but our former governor Charlie Crist works at Morgan and Morgan. I know while he was governor he helped me out with an issue and pointed me in all the right directions. I emailed him last night to see if their really is anything that can be done about the jurors among other questions. If anyone else would like to email him his email is


Charlie@forthepeople.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 05:07:55 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)

Please, no---Texas has enough problems! [  However, Texans wouldn't put up with all those Cindy/Casey shenanigans.  LOL



That's right, all have a big shot gun in their trucks....
 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 05:09:03 PM
Gypsy, Not everything is as the public thinks it is. CBS is affiliated with TimeWarner on more ventures than just The CW. It's hard to explain. I remember going through the major share holders back when certain stations were profiting more off of Caylee as compared to others. I remember I found out this guys name that had something to do with both corps. He was big in TruTV, HLN, CNN and sat as a major shareholder on a human rights activist group.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: wreck on July 09, 2011, 05:10:46 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)

Please, no---Texas has enough problems! [  However, Texans wouldn't put up with all those Cindy/Casey shenanigans.  LOL



That's right, all have a big shot gun in their trucks....
 ::MonkeyKiss::
Well, MOST of us don't have a truck or shotguns -- but it only takes a few that do to get the message across!  ::CowboySmiley:: ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 09, 2011, 05:12:13 PM
I have one more comment of the day :)

If Michael, supposedly, the father of Caylee Marie, (according, to claims from the new Grandma) if he supported his
Daughter, we may not be in this mess.  There are "two people" who make a baby, and the second one (if it is him), is at fault, too.

Caylee was a year and half, when Michael passed away, he had plenty of time to fight for his daughter in court, if he believed
he was her father.  The new grandma could and should have insisted that he pay child support, or she could have started a little savings for the child.

Please, remember, (hate me if you must), but their was a second person and that was the father and his mother who knew and
Did nothing to help Caylee.  IMO


I agree with you.  Only we have no proof that this guy is the father, and he didn't tell his mother. She told NG that she only put 2-and-2 together after she heard about this on the news..  and that her son used to visit family down in the Orlando area, so its possible.  I don't know that she ever said she knew of Casey, much less that her son could have possibly fathered a child.  If he was the dad and knew about it, he's probably just like any number of young dads out there who could care less that they have offspring. They get a girl pregnant and are probably overjoyed when the mother tells them they don't need to provide help of any kind.  If he was the dad but didn't know, well, it's a shame.

It doesn't seem like the Anthonys will do anything to help this woman determine if Caylee is/was her granddaughter.

Anothermonkey
If no one clears this up for you I will when I get there....lol  I am behind today as had puter problems.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Red on July 09, 2011, 05:17:50 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/casey-anthony-cash-trial/story?id=14035804
Casey Anthony and Others May Cash in on the Trial, Incensing the Public
By OLIVIA KATRANDJIAN
July 9, 2011


Paradigm Talent Agency Decides Not to Represent Casey Anthony Lawyer Jose Baez … Casey Anthony Cashing In Too?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/07/09/paradigm-talent-agency-decides-not-to-represent-casey-anthony-lawyer-jose-baez-casey-anthony-cashing-in-too/

I think the American public is going to take great exception to anyone trying to cash in on the death of a 2 year old. It offends everyone's sense of common decency's and sensability. Generally speaking when books are written and movies made of such a situation, foundations are created and effort are made to help the victims of crime.

Not with this family, Casey or a bunch of defense atty's who think they have hit gold.

Then again, how could Casey Anthony help sponsor Caylee's law when it would mean she would have been convicted of a felony.

Networks and Publishing Houses beware ... your advertisers will be boycotted. No one is going to throw Caylee in a swamp again, the American people are not going to allow it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 09, 2011, 05:18:23 PM
Juror #3 made statement she already had her mind made before deliberating. I feel she sold Caylee Marie Anthony for a trip to Disney World for her family. Now how in god's name did the jury give a verdict at 2:15pm, then go to Disney world with her family the rest of the day? Bought off sounds like it to me.MOO


Afternoon everyone..........she did indeed sell out, trying to make people think they were sick at their stomachs and crying? And yet you can go to Disney World and have fun? Are you kidding me? The rest of us are still trying to cope with what we know happened to Caylee,speaking for myself, it's hard to function and concentrate on anything and sleep doesn't come easy either, to go to Disney World on the heels of their verdict shows they never once considered Caylee in any of this, I don't know how this juror can live with herself knowing she had fun because a little baby girl died by the hands of her mother and was thrown in the woods to rot like garbage, it is beyond my comprehension which I guess is a good thing because I never want to be able to think like any of them, the jurors, Casey, Cindy, George, Baez, Mason and all the rest that defend that baby killer, so maybe I should just stop trying to rack my brain since I'm never going to find the answer I want. JMO

Serenity, please take heart. Be patient...all in God's time. May WAVES of love encircle you on this day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 05:18:35 PM
Gypsy, I forgot to say hi!

Sorry, I just read the rest of your post. No, I don't have anything against CNN or TimeWarner, seriously not at all. I'm just trying to investigate where some of the "drive" came from. I watch CNN, HLN (including Nancy Grace) whenever I get a chance. Matter of fact, I have it on now.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm just saying, the more money a Corp makes, the more money a shareholder has to put towards his cause. I'm just being thorough.

I posted the CBS info bc Carpe posted a rumor that Cindy is writing a book for S&S.

I do think this boils down to it being a dp case. I myself am not sure I could impose the dp, but I certainly wouldn't have acquitted Casey. I have such a big stupid bleeding heart sometimes that I become a sucker for the underdog. I didn't even budge in this case, wasn't even tempted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: califmom on July 09, 2011, 05:19:48 PM
Cindy Anthony's book company - I have heard unconfirmed reports it is going to be Simon & Schuster

http://www.simonandschuster.com/about/contact_us





I e-mailed Simon & Schuster, yesterday, voicing my complaint, but probably won't hear back from them until Monday, if at all. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Aurelia7 on July 09, 2011, 05:21:36 PM
Hey guys - Is anyone else getting the feeling that something big is going to happen that will result in justice for Caylee?

Between what I've been reading here, watching on TV and all of the various petitions started, I'm getting a slow burning HOPEFUL feeling that the tide is going to turn soon.  Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I'm thinking it's more a subconscious impression that I'm receiving based on the attitudes and opinions of those I've been reading/watching.  My feelings of doom have quelled and replaced with this new sense of hope.  I don't know if it will be a legal issue or a personal one, but I've a gut feeling the other proverbial shoe is about to drop.

Anyone else feeling this way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)

Please, no---Texas has enough problems! [  However, Texans wouldn't put up with all those Cindy/Casey shenanigans.  LOL



That's right, all have a big shot gun in their trucks....
 ::MonkeyKiss::
Well, MOST of us don't have a truck or shotguns -- but it only takes a few that do to get the message across!  ::CowboySmiley:: ::CowboySmiley::

 ::MonkeyCool::  And Texans are too real for Casey & CinCin--they would see right through that merinque of a facade...  Aruba should be their destination of choice---where lying is an art form.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
Also, I heard tge same thing about Disney/ABC.

Want me to post their Corp info?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 05:26:10 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)

Please, no---Texas has enough problems! [  However, Texans wouldn't put up with all those Cindy/Casey shenanigans.  LOL



That's right, all have a big shot gun in their trucks....
 ::MonkeyKiss::
Well, MOST of us don't have a truck or shotguns -- but it only takes a few that do to get the message across!  ::CowboySmiley:: ::CowboySmiley::

 ::MonkeyCool::  And Texans are too real for Casey & CinCin--they would see right through that merinque of a facade...  Aruba should be their destination of choice---where lying is an art form.

*** meringue ***


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 05:28:33 PM
Is it possible that Baez worked with ABC for the first juror interview in the event of a not guilty verdict?  The juror(s) were told (obviously I'm reaching here - but could still happen) after selected but before sequestered. That "trip" and others were in the back of their minds.  Or even someone working for ABC etc got to a juror.  Let's face it.  An interview with a "Not Guilty" juror pulls alot more viewers than a "Guilty" one.  I think someone should look into the time they were selected to the time they were sequestered.  Heck look into them all - bank accounts & everything.

Been working on it since I brought it up last night.

as soon as my munchkin goes to sleep tonight I'm going to hit the web too Titch!  What are your thoughts?  Do you think the media got to them before they were sequestered? Baez?  Who else could have?  The Anthonys?

My honest opinion, serious humble opinion, is that several advocates knew this would be a dp case. The media sensationalized this case and the public outcry was fierce. There were, still are, a ton of missing and/or murdered children, yet Caylee became the poster child. Because of how heinous the crime scene was, the dp was added. If the dp wasn't brought to the table, all these human rights groups & legal experts wouldn't have gotten involved to the extent that they did. I think it boils down to everything human rights. They do not believe in the dp no matter how horrific the murder. These activists believe the dp is murder, so they advocate against it.

I think there's more to Casey's dysfunction than what we've seen so far. This entire family gives me the heebie jeebies!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Please don't think I am offended by yurpost Titch and please don't take offense to mine.

I am against the DP..for religious reasons..not political reasons..and I think there are many people oout there like myself that feel the same.  I would never clasify myself as an anti DP advocate, I can't abide A lyons or the ACLU..just someone that on a jury would not vote for the DP...not even in this case.

That being said..I still would have found Casey Guilty of Murder 1..and during sentencing voted LWOP.  Although I do not agree with the DP..I do agree that people like Casey should never be free in our society again because of two things..we need to be protected from them and they need to pay for the life they have taken through the accountability of being found guilty and serving the rest of their days in prison locked away from free society.

I think what we have here is 12 people who were not about accountability in the first place..they were not accountable in the way they reached the verdict nor the verdict they rendered.  They didn't follow the judges guidelines..they became uncomfortable it would seem with the task before them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Aurelia7 on July 09, 2011, 05:33:11 PM
I'm a day late and a $ short, as I'm still catching up on threads from days ago and just read this:

Quote from: TURBOTHINK
It started out with a sleazy family with a precious young child none of them gave a baker's damn about except as she could benefit them. A mother who didn't want her to begin with and no desire to make a home for her or take care of her; a grandmother who used her as an extension of her own ego when her first choice KC screwed up her life; an uncle who was excluded in everything concerning the baby and a grandfather who did not have the testicles to act like a man and stop allowing his daughter to lie, steal and run wild. KC got by with all the things she did because NO ONE could or would stop her.

In a more normal family when KC started screwing up in school they would have made sure she got psychological help. By the time she reached high school it was too late, but instead they went into coverup for her lying  and telling people she graduated. A normal family would have insisted she finish high school. A normal family would have noticed she was pregnant before she was due to deliver and not lied about that when asked. A normal family would have checked on their daughter where she worked and known she really had a job. A normal family would never have accepted that there was a babysitter NONE of them had ever met, talked to or seen. Anyone (even a grandfather) would have known there was something wrong with that story and would have investigated BEFORE the baby died.

These people are just pure trash who lived in an average house after filing bankruptcy instead of a shack somewhere and because they ALL wanted to be something they were not and never could be, this baby died. Here in the South we know them as carpet baggers. Nobodies who sacrificed a baby's life for their greed and lusts.
BBM

Excellent post.  The most concise and precise explanation of the Anthony family that I've read to date.  The part I've bolded is one thing that's always bothered me about this case.  TWO YEARS and no one ever met the nanny?  Impossible to imagine.  You think that Casey would have wanted, at some point, to introduce the nanny to the family, being that she spoke so favorably about her.  And...in all that time, IF there had been a nanny, there would have been at least one time where Casey could not pick Caylee up on time and would have to call Cindy to do so.  And you'd think that Cindy would at least have wanted the nanny's phone number in case of emergency.  Either Cindy is just one naive person or she suspected all along that there wasn't a nanny but didn't want to press the issue.

Are there any theories as to why Cindy never questioned the nanny's existence?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 05:37:09 PM
Gypsy, Not everything is as the public thinks it is. CBS is affiliated with TimeWarner on more ventures than just The CW. It's hard to explain. I remember going through the major share holders back when certain stations were profiting more off of Caylee as compared to others. I remember I found out this guys name that had something to do with both corps. He was big in TruTV, HLN, CNN and sat as a major shareholder on a human rights activist group.

Just surprised they are included because I worked for them in their publishing division 10 years ago..and because of that had access to all their corporations..like getting discounted tickets, etc.  I know that CNN came from Ted Turners corporations..and I have no idea who handles that branch now.  It was a huge rivalry between CNN and Fox with Rupert Murdoch at the helm of Fox.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
Their a fb page, that is trying to stop the Caylee's Law.
Call team casey anthony..........

That won't last long. 
I'm got a feeling,  authorities might want to look at ALL these ppl.
 ::CowboySmiley::
you (not you, pharlap, but the general "you" LOL) have to be a total a$$hole to think that it's a good idea to stop a law like this. Even if a person is addle-brained enough to believe she's innocent, there is no reason why a parent shouldn't be held responsible for not reporting a missing child or the death of a child.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 05:43:18 PM


Casey "owned" her parents, but why?  Did she own the parents, because George and Cindy, wanted to keep Caylee in their care?

B has a link to anther Mrs Plesea earlier interview, but you need to click "yourself" to read one of them. 
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/23/caseycaylee-anthony-case-grams-shirley-plesea-is-our-hero/

This is pretty common, actually. I have seen this happen first-hand with a family member.  Using the child to get money, place to live, etc..  while the grandparent is in constant threat of never being able to see that child again if they don't give their (daughter) what they want.

I agree with you.  IMO-Messy relationships are nothing new, I suspect Casey's behavior escalated, until it was a point of no return.  The car Casey drove was her mothers?  If that was the case, CA should filed a report of a stolen car.
Perhaps it would have saved her grand daughter, but that would have been a bit embarrassing for A's, wouldn't it?


The car, the missing/dead grandchild, the $45k plus stolen..  they should be REALLY embarrassed. but apparently not, because Cindy's all hopped up to write a tell-all book about it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 05:44:51 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)
::MonkeyEek::a second cousin's of Cindy who somehow knows the proof?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 05:45:03 PM
Is it possible that Baez worked with ABC for the first juror interview in the event of a not guilty verdict?  The juror(s) were told (obviously I'm reaching here - but could still happen) after selected but before sequestered. That "trip" and others were in the back of their minds.  Or even someone working for ABC etc got to a juror.  Let's face it.  An interview with a "Not Guilty" juror pulls alot more viewers than a "Guilty" one.  I think someone should look into the time they were selected to the time they were sequestered.  Heck look into them all - bank accounts & everything.

Been working on it since I brought it up last night.

as soon as my munchkin goes to sleep tonight I'm going to hit the web too Titch!  What are your thoughts?  Do you think the media got to them before they were sequestered? Baez?  Who else could have?  The Anthonys?

My honest opinion, serious humble opinion, is that several advocates knew this would be a dp case. The media sensationalized this case and the public outcry was fierce. There were, still are, a ton of missing and/or murdered children, yet Caylee became the poster child. Because of how heinous the crime scene was, the dp was added. If the dp wasn't brought to the table, all these human rights groups & legal experts wouldn't have gotten involved to the extent that they did. I think it boils down to everything human rights. They do not believe in the dp no matter how horrific the murder. These activists believe the dp is murder, so they advocate against it.

I think there's more to Casey's dysfunction than what we've seen so far. This entire family gives me the heebie jeebies!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Please don't think I am offended by yurpost Titch and please don't take offense to mine.

I am against the DP..for religious reasons..not political reasons..and I think there are many people oout there like myself that feel the same.  I would never clasify myself as an anti DP advocate, I can't abide A lyons or the ACLU..just someone that on a jury would not vote for the DP...not even in this case.

That being said..I still would have found Casey Guilty of Murder 1..and during sentencing voted LWOP.  Although I do not agree with the DP..I do agree that people like Casey should never be free in our society again because of two things..we need to be protected from them and they need to pay for the life they have taken through the accountability of being found guilty and serving the rest of their days in prison locked away from free society.

I think what we have here is 12 people who were not about accountability in the first place..they were not accountable in the way they reached the verdict nor the verdict they rendered.  They didn't follow the judges guidelines..they became uncomfortable it would seem with the task before them. 

Awww, no offense at all! I was worry I may have offended you...

Also, you typed out everything that I've been thinking and feeling regarding the dp. Though I wonder how I'd feel if something heinous happened to one of my children, purposely killed for no other reason than gratification, then I'm not sure how I'd feel. I would do the same as you: convict on murder 1 then vote lwop, if the dp was granted instead then it was out of my hands.

I'm investigating...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 05:51:16 PM

My honest opinion, serious humble opinion, is that several advocates knew this would be a dp case. The media sensationalized this case and the public outcry was fierce. There were, still are, a ton of missing and/or murdered children, yet Caylee became the poster child. Because of how heinous the crime scene was, the dp was added. If the dp wasn't brought to the table, all these human rights groups & legal experts wouldn't have gotten involved to the extent that they did. I think it boils down to everything human rights. They do not believe in the dp no matter how horrific the murder. These activists believe the dp is murder, so they advocate against it.

I think there's more to Casey's dysfunction than what we've seen so far. This entire family gives me the heebie jeebies!  ::MonkeyDevil::

I was going to ask how not giving somebody the DP is more of a sensation, but in this case, when everybody and their dog thought she'd get the max sentence AND penalty, NOT convicting her was about as sensational as they could possibly get. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 05:52:50 PM
Is it possible that Baez worked with ABC for the first juror interview in the event of a not guilty verdict?  The juror(s) were told (obviously I'm reaching here - but could still happen) after selected but before sequestered. That "trip" and others were in the back of their minds.  Or even someone working for ABC etc got to a juror.  Let's face it.  An interview with a "Not Guilty" juror pulls alot more viewers than a "Guilty" one.  I think someone should look into the time they were selected to the time they were sequestered.  Heck look into them all - bank accounts & everything.

Been working on it since I brought it up last night.

as soon as my munchkin goes to sleep tonight I'm going to hit the web too Titch!  What are your thoughts?  Do you think the media got to them before they were sequestered? Baez?  Who else could have?  The Anthonys?

My honest opinion, serious humble opinion, is that several advocates knew this would be a dp case. The media sensationalized this case and the public outcry was fierce. There were, still are, a ton of missing and/or murdered children, yet Caylee became the poster child. Because of how heinous the crime scene was, the dp was added. If the dp wasn't brought to the table, all these human rights groups & legal experts wouldn't have gotten involved to the extent that they did. I think it boils down to everything human rights. They do not believe in the dp no matter how horrific the murder. These activists believe the dp is murder, so they advocate against it.

I think there's more to Casey's dysfunction than what we've seen so far. This entire family gives me the heebie jeebies!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Please don't think I am offended by yurpost Titch and please don't take offense to mine.

I am against the DP..for religious reasons..not political reasons..and I think there are many people oout there like myself that feel the same.  I would never clasify myself as an anti DP advocate, I can't abide A lyons or the ACLU..just someone that on a jury would not vote for the DP...not even in this case.

That being said..I still would have found Casey Guilty of Murder 1..and during sentencing voted LWOP.  Although I do not agree with the DP..I do agree that people like Casey should never be free in our society again because of two things..we need to be protected from them and they need to pay for the life they have taken through the accountability of being found guilty and serving the rest of their days in prison locked away from free society.

I think what we have here is 12 people who were not about accountability in the first place..they were not accountable in the way they reached the verdict nor the verdict they rendered.  They didn't follow the judges guidelines..they became uncomfortable it would seem with the task before them. 

In my family circle ... church circle ... there are divisions regarding the death penalty issue.

Personally ... I believe that justice for for a premeditated murder demands the death penalty.  The scales of justice must balance or the victim's life has been devalued.

Nevertheless in the Casey Anthony case there were charges that the jury could have found Casey guilty ... charges where the death penalty was not an option ... charges that implied Casey would not have had a taste of freedom for a very long time.

In less than eleven hours of deliberation ...twelve jurors chose to give Casey a walking  pass.  Why?

In less than eleven hours of deliberation ALL twelve jury members made the choice to embrace ONLY the defence's opening and closing statements ... hook, line and sinker.  Why?

Janet

++++++


Jury instuctions + charges in the Casey Anthony murder trial

http://www.zimbio.com/Casey+Anthony/articles/Q6sfyR2oKyr/Jury+instuctions+charges+Casey+Anthony+murder


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 05:53:30 PM

I agree with you.  Only we have no proof that this guy is the father, and he didn't tell his mother. She told NG that she only put 2-and-2 together after she heard about this on the news..  and that her son used to visit family down in the Orlando area, so its possible.  I don't know that she ever said she knew of Casey, much less that her son could have possibly fathered a child.  If he was the dad and knew about it, he's probably just like any number of young dads out there who could care less that they have offspring. They get a girl pregnant and are probably overjoyed when the mother tells them they don't need to provide help of any kind.  If he was the dad but didn't know, well, it's a shame.

It doesn't seem like the Anthonys will do anything to help this woman determine if Caylee is/was her granddaughter.

Anothermonkey
If no one clears this up for you I will when I get there....lol  I am behind today as had puter problems.
::MonkeyAngel::  You're sweet!  TY, Karen.  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 06:03:00 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 09, 2011, 06:07:15 PM

I agree with you.  Only we have no proof that this guy is the father, and he didn't tell his mother. She told NG that she only put 2-and-2 together after she heard about this on the news..  and that her son used to visit family down in the Orlando area, so its possible.  I don't know that she ever said she knew of Casey, much less that her son could have possibly fathered a child.  If he was the dad and knew about it, he's probably just like any number of young dads out there who could care less that they have offspring. They get a girl pregnant and are probably overjoyed when the mother tells them they don't need to provide help of any kind.  If he was the dad but didn't know, well, it's a shame.

It doesn't seem like the Anthonys will do anything to help this woman determine if Caylee is/was her granddaughter.

Anothermonkey
If no one clears this up for you I will when I get there....lol  I am behind today as had puter problems.
::MonkeyAngel::  You're sweet!  TY, Karen.  :)

Why say anything at all now.
Caylee's dead.....It doesn't matter at all now.
I for one don't care who he is. 
I still say it's that black dude in a few of those pictures....

my 2 cents..... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 06:15:13 PM

My honest opinion, serious humble opinion, is that several advocates knew this would be a dp case. The media sensationalized this case and the public outcry was fierce. There were, still are, a ton of missing and/or murdered children, yet Caylee became the poster child. Because of how heinous the crime scene was, the dp was added. If the dp wasn't brought to the table, all these human rights groups & legal experts wouldn't have gotten involved to the extent that they did. I think it boils down to everything human rights. They do not believe in the dp no matter how horrific the murder. These activists believe the dp is murder, so they advocate against it.

I think there's more to Casey's dysfunction than what we've seen so far. This entire family gives me the heebie jeebies!  ::MonkeyDevil::

I was going to ask how not giving somebody the DP is more of a sensation, but in this case, when everybody and their dog thought she'd get the max sentence AND penalty, NOT convicting her was about as sensational as they could possibly get. 

ITA..They couldn't have caused more of a hullabaloo if they tried..nothing, nada, so the defense confused them..what in the world was confusing about the prosecutions case.  It was linear..it started at day 1 June 15 and progressed through the 31 days until today really.  How could they feel George had something to do with this ie they thought he lied and make that a sticking point to not doing something to her?  This wasn't George's trial ..this was her trial..even when you have more then 1 person involved it doesn't just discount what the other has done to find the person on trial guilty. 

They really were stupid beyond belief and I would like to hear how the other jurors spin this..I think the more they talk the more we will find out.  Of course now if they think they will be paid to talk then it could be a wating game.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 06:16:06 PM
Hey guys - Is anyone else getting the feeling that something big is going to happen that will result in justice for Caylee?

Between what I've been reading here, watching on TV and all of the various petitions started, I'm getting a slow burning HOPEFUL feeling that the tide is going to turn soon.  Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I'm thinking it's more a subconscious impression that I'm receiving based on the attitudes and opinions of those I've been reading/watching.  My feelings of doom have quelled and replaced with this new sense of hope.  I don't know if it will be a legal issue or a personal one, but I've a gut feeling the other proverbial shoe is about to drop.

Anyone else feeling this way?
I been saying that something is going to happen on this case I just have a strong feeling this isnt over yet, I dont know if the jury will be investigated or what but something will be. It could have something to do with politics which as long as someone makes Casey stand up for her crime and spend 25 to 80 yrs in prison I dont care if it is politics, think on this a killer is or will be free in just a few days, with the world feeling like they do, whoever put her in jail again would be American's hero they would get put in office they were running for hands down.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 06:19:20 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.



http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 06:24:34 PM
The opening day for the new Winnie the Pooh movie is July 15.

When exactly did Cindy dial 911 to report Caylee missing? Was it July15, 2008...or the 16th?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: joesamas mama on July 09, 2011, 06:26:36 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)
Oh how I hope they both come to Texas.  ::MonkeyCool:: Once they get here they might as well run to the border and cross into Mexico. Not one person I have talked to (including men, my coaches, friends, coworkers, and people I over hear talking about this case) would ALL slap the crap out of them if they saw them on the street.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: wreck on July 09, 2011, 06:27:40 PM
Hey guys - Is anyone else getting the feeling that something big is going to happen that will result in justice for Caylee?

Between what I've been reading here, watching on TV and all of the various petitions started, I'm getting a slow burning HOPEFUL feeling that the tide is going to turn soon.  Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I'm thinking it's more a subconscious impression that I'm receiving based on the attitudes and opinions of those I've been reading/watching.  My feelings of doom have quelled and replaced with this new sense of hope.  I don't know if it will be a legal issue or a personal one, but I've a gut feeling the other proverbial shoe is about to drop.

Anyone else feeling this way?
I been saying that something is going to happen on this case I just have a strong feeling this isnt over yet, I dont know if the jury will be investigated or what but something will be. It could have something to do with politics which as long as someone makes Casey stand up for her crime and spend 25 to 80 yrs in prison I dont care if it is politics, think on this a killer is or will be free in just a few days, with the world feeling like they do, whoever put her in jail again would be American's hero they would get put in office they were running for hands down.


I was saying originally that this was a more shocking verdict than the OJ case. The OJ case pretty much split down racial lines. This case has outraged almost EVERYONE. It is not liberal/conservative, it is not black/white/brown. If there is one thing Caylee may always be remembered for, maybe is that it united America - even for one brief period in time. Maybe we can all come together to enact more stringent laws to prevent this from happening again. Maybe it will make all future juries more cognizant of their responsibilities.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 06:28:35 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.



Oh right..I knew that right away..that's why I said that day the jurors think they won the Super Bowl cause now they're going to Disney.  I guess the others got different parting gifts from Disney/ABC.  If I was Glenn Selig (sp) I wouldn't hold out much hope of jurors coming to me when Disney Corp is knocking at their door.

ABC has had this case wrapped up in the money angle since they bought off Casey and the A's for pics back in 2008.

So how many of these jurors families were contacted by Disney while they were still in Orlando?  I am sure that would be a fun fact to know.  So they didn't take the free trip..what did they take..or did they just say go away..yeah right.


And I still don't trust J Lyons on bit.  If there was a way for him to tamper without being caught he would do it in a heartbeat.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 06:30:03 PM
The opening day for the new Winnie the Pooh movie is July 15.

When exactly did Cindy dial 911 to report Caylee missing? Was it July15, 2008...or the 16th?
July 15th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 06:31:37 PM
The opening day for the new Winnie the Pooh movie is July 15.

When exactly did Cindy dial 911 to report Caylee missing? Was it July15, 2008...or the 16th?

July 15 Caylee was reported missing by Cindy.  Cindy last saw Caylee June 15th 2008


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 06:32:30 PM
The opening day for the new Winnie the Pooh movie is July 15.

When exactly did Cindy dial 911 to report Caylee missing? Was it July15, 2008...or the 16th?


INTERESTING! Cindy called 911 on July 15, 2008! Why of all days does Disney have to use this exact day to open this movie in theaters? W...T...F?

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/31/cindy-anthony-cries-as-911-calls-played-to-jury/

Quote:
Before getting to the 911 calls made on July 15, 2008, prosecutor Linda Drane-Burdick asked Cindy Anthony about the events that occurred in the weeks leading up to that point. Cindy explained that, when she wrote in a MySpace post on July 3, 2008 that “Caylee is missing,” it was just an expression and she did not actually know the girl was not with Casey Anthony.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 06:33:24 PM
Thanks Gypsy!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 09, 2011, 06:38:05 PM
AnotherMonkey...I had a long story typed out for you explaining the story from Donna MacKlean.  I lost it when gd came into the room.
Will try again when I am not so tired.
Wish I could remember the date of that NG show...then we would have it word for word.
karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 06:38:52 PM
Hey guys - Is anyone else getting the feeling that something big is going to happen that will result in justice for Caylee?

Between what I've been reading here, watching on TV and all of the various petitions started, I'm getting a slow burning HOPEFUL feeling that the tide is going to turn soon.  Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I'm thinking it's more a subconscious impression that I'm receiving based on the attitudes and opinions of those I've been reading/watching.  My feelings of doom have quelled and replaced with this new sense of hope.  I don't know if it will be a legal issue or a personal one, but I've a gut feeling the other proverbial shoe is about to drop.

Anyone else feeling this way?
I been saying that something is going to happen on this case I just have a strong feeling this isnt over yet, I dont know if the jury will be investigated or what but something will be. It could have something to do with politics which as long as someone makes Casey stand up for her crime and spend 25 to 80 yrs in prison I dont care if it is politics, think on this a killer is or will be free in just a few days, with the world feeling like they do, whoever put her in jail again would be American's hero they would get put in office they were running for hands down.



As with the OJ Simpson case ... I do not believe that anything will change the outcome in the Casey Anthony case.  However ... I pray that Casey Anthony case will be a catalyst for change in the jury process ... something called accountability.

Janet

+++++

"If you don't pay your light bill for 31 days.. no power! If you don't pay your water bill for 31 days.. no water! If you don't return a movie you rented for 31 days.. you pay for that movie! If you dont pay a ticket for 31 days you go to jail. If you don't report your child missing for 31 days, what happens?? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! - repost if you agree.|

KCJackie's Friend


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 06:39:46 PM
The opening day for the new Winnie the Pooh movie is July 15.

When exactly did Cindy dial 911 to report Caylee missing? Was it July15, 2008...or the 16th?


INTERESTING! Cindy called 911 on July 15, 2008! Why of all days does Disney have to use this exact day to open this movie in theaters? W...T...F?

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/31/cindy-anthony-cries-as-911-calls-played-to-jury/

Quote:
Before getting to the 911 calls made on July 15, 2008, prosecutor Linda Drane-Burdick asked Cindy Anthony about the events that occurred in the weeks leading up to that point. Cindy explained that, when she wrote in a MySpace post on July 3, 2008 that “Caylee is missing,” it was just an expression and she did not actually know the girl was not with Casey Anthony.



http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1449283
Winnie the Pooh (2011) Oh Pooh.

Snip:
Release Date
15 Jul 2011
Genre
Animation, Family
Run time
1 hr 9 mins
Rated
G



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 06:40:46 PM
I'm a day late and a $ short, as I'm still catching up on threads from days ago and just read this:

Quote from: TURBOTHINK
It started out with a sleazy family with a precious young child none of them gave a baker's damn about except as she could benefit them. A mother who didn't want her to begin with and no desire to make a home for her or take care of her; a grandmother who used her as an extension of her own ego when her first choice KC screwed up her life; an uncle who was excluded in everything concerning the baby and a grandfather who did not have the testicles to act like a man and stop allowing his daughter to lie, steal and run wild. KC got by with all the things she did because NO ONE could or would stop her.

In a more normal family when KC started screwing up in school they would have made sure she got psychological help. By the time she reached high school it was too late, but instead they went into coverup for her lying  and telling people she graduated. A normal family would have insisted she finish high school. A normal family would have noticed she was pregnant before she was due to deliver and not lied about that when asked. A normal family would have checked on their daughter where she worked and known she really had a job. A normal family would never have accepted that there was a babysitter NONE of them had ever met, talked to or seen. Anyone (even a grandfather) would have known there was something wrong with that story and would have investigated BEFORE the baby died.

These people are just pure trash who lived in an average house after filing bankruptcy instead of a shack somewhere and because they ALL wanted to be something they were not and never could be, this baby died. Here in the South we know them as carpet baggers. Nobodies who sacrificed a baby's life for their greed and lusts.
BBM

Excellent post.  The most concise and precise explanation of the Anthony family that I've read to date.  The part I've bolded is one thing that's always bothered me about this case.  TWO YEARS and no one ever met the nanny?  Impossible to imagine.  You think that Casey would have wanted, at some point, to introduce the nanny to the family, being that she spoke so favorably about her.  And...in all that time, IF there had been a nanny, there would have been at least one time where Casey could not pick Caylee up on time and would have to call Cindy to do so.  And you'd think that Cindy would at least have wanted the nanny's phone number in case of emergency.  Either Cindy is just one naive person or she suspected all along that there wasn't a nanny but didn't want to press the issue.

Are there any theories as to why Cindy never questioned the nanny's existence?


I have no theory--only have always thought that the indifference Cindy displayed regarding the nanny before this became public, [ re: testimony ] was in sharp contrast to her displayed hysterics after this all became public.   Who in their right mind doesn't find out everything about a nanny who supposedly has charge of their grandchild/family member ???  Especially since the grandchild lived in the same home with them?  That does not add up.  All adults living in that house were responsible for the welfare of Caylee and should have made it their number one priority.   Cindy was indifferent until it became the unpopular posture due to the event and to the cameras.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 06:46:29 PM
AnotherMonkey...I had a long story typed out for you explaining the story from Donna MacKlean.  I lost it when gd came into the room.
Will try again when I am not so tired.
Wish I could remember the date of that NG show...then we would have it word for word.
karen
Oh it's ok, but I appreciate your wanting to share the info.  No worries.   :smt060


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 06:49:29 PM
I was saying originally that this was a more shocking verdict than the OJ case. The OJ case pretty much split down racial lines. This case has outraged almost EVERYONE. It is not liberal/conservative, it is not black/white/brown. If there is one thing Caylee may always be remembered for, maybe is that it united America - even for one brief period in time. Maybe we can all come together to enact more stringent laws to prevent this from happening again. Maybe it will make all future juries more cognizant of their responsibilities.

.... except 12 jurors and 2 alternates who came from all walks of life ... who were randomly selected to serve.  What were the chances?

Janet

++++++

NANCY GRACE
Jury Clears Casey Anthony of all Charges in Caylee`s Death
Aired July 5, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

SUSAN MOSS, CHILD ADVOCATE: We`ve been O.J.`d! This is the worst thing to happen to Florida since the hanging chads! How did this jury miss the 31 days that this child was not reported? How did they miss the duct tape over this child`s mouth, this child`s nose? You don`t wear duct tape to go swimming! And in the early morning, this little girl didn`t put duct tape on herself! How did they miss the chloroform searches, the chloroform evidence found in a car that only she had access to? How about the fact that she also searched breaking necks? How about the fact that there was the smell of death in this car?

I mean, come on! This jury ignored the scientific evidence! Apparently, they found the only 12 people who still think the world is flat!

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/05/ng.01.html


Romans 1:22
Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools
.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 06:58:18 PM

NANCY GRACE
Jury Clears Casey Anthony of all Charges in Caylee`s Death
Aired July 5, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

SUSAN MOSS, CHILD ADVOCATE: We`ve been O.J.`d! This is the worst thing to happen to Florida since the hanging chads! How did this jury miss the 31 days that this child was not reported? How did they miss the duct tape over this child`s mouth, this child`s nose? You don`t wear duct tape to go swimming! And in the early morning, this little girl didn`t put duct tape on herself! How did they miss the chloroform searches, the chloroform evidence found in a car that only she had access to? How about the fact that she also searched breaking necks? How about the fact that there was the smell of death in this car?

I mean, come on! This jury ignored the scientific evidence! Apparently, they found the only 12 people who still think the world is flat!


<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/05/ng.01.html


Romans 1:22
Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools
.


Probably the best analysis of this debacle.. this travesty.. that I've heard.  What she said.. I'd like to play it back in a continuous loop over the Disney World loud speakers, so they can hear it while they're cavorting about as if nothing ever happening in their boring little lives.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
-- Long Post Warning -- Disclaimer: No disrespect intended toward any political beliefs.

Everyone is puzzling over the odd remarks being made by jurors who have spoken out so far.  Were they stupid?  What can explain their baffling verdict that flew in the face of all common sense, the polls, the pundits' predictions, etc..?  Was there juror misconduct?  A planted "stealth juror" or two?  Jury tampering?  Why did Baez seem so chipper when the jury was sent to deliberate, when he should have been shaking in his shoes?  And so upbeat when court reconvened to hear their verdict?

Well, regarding the "Runaway Jury" Theory, and whether the jurors' actions will be, or should be, investigated, it really stands out to me that the stated goal of the DT was to "save Casey's life:"
**SNIPPED***
Desi-I'm reading you loud and clear. Someone needs to investigate who knows who /who had contact with whom prior to jury selection and after selection, but prior to sequestration. Someone needs to investigate which way our jurors were leaning prior to being chosen, particularly Russell Huekler.  Let me clearly preface this by saying I am not accusing Mr. Huekler of anything.  I am saying that is it is not unheard of in educational circles for an emotionally vested educator to hijack a public event (such as a parade, Veteran's Memorial service, jury duty, court case, etc.) to further their cause or to provoke "public discourse" on a controversial subject.  It is also not unheard for sympathetic supporters of a cause to derail a case. Our constitution needs to be amended to include a law binding jurors to obey judicial instructions to the jury, complete with long-ranging penalties for failure to do so.  The Constitutional delegates, placing a premium on personal honor and integrity themselves, failed to foresee future generations lacking those same qualities (specifically in this case, future jurists). They incorrectly assumed that those same societal values would be taught by one generation to the next. The right to be tried by a jury of one's peers never included those peers deciding to let the offender go free simply because jury members did not want to be inconvenienced.  That's my opinion.
::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: labubske on July 09, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Shouldn't we also start a petition that those related to a murder case should NOT be able to profit from it...especially if found guilty of ANY aspect, including lying to LE...also the jurors should NOT be allowed to profit. 

I also feel like something big is going to happen in this case, unless we shut up.  I am also afraid though that the media is going to stop talking about it (per request) and then people will start losing the anger and lose Justice for Caylee. Once the anger dies down then the jurors will start coming out making money off of this (for sure) and the Anthony's and then KC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 07:12:20 PM
Can someone please explain what this means..For example, in the United States someone acquitted of a state murder charge can be retried for the same actions on a federal charge of violating civil rights.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
Wow, A different take on this verdict...one which I haven't seen worded like this yet. Very interesting... Please note: This is not meant to defame, it is an observation.


http://wwwgagnonart.blogspot.com/2011/07/jennifer-ford-nursing-student-to.html

Thursday July 7, 2011
Jennifer Ford – Nursing Student to graduate from St Petersburg College

Quote:
One of the Jurors was Jennifer Ford, a Nursing Student, who also went with the other Jurors and found Casey Anthony not guilty of Child Abuse and Child Neglect. The Jury deliberated extremely fast; as if they just wanted to get it over with and go home. Jennifer Ford is planning on going into Nursing; the helping profession. Nurses, as well as Teachers are expected and required to report suspected victims of child abuse and child neglect. Casey Anthony probably would not have served much time for abuse and neglect. It is more of the principal though. What type of Society have we become? People are asking me from other parts in the country, who are these people down here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 07:17:40 PM
Is it possible that Baez worked with ABC for the first juror interview in the event of a not guilty verdict?  The juror(s) were told (obviously I'm reaching here - but could still happen) after selected but before sequestered. That "trip" and others were in the back of their minds.  Or even someone working for ABC etc got to a juror.  Let's face it.  An interview with a "Not Guilty" juror pulls alot more viewers than a "Guilty" one.  I think someone should look into the time they were selected to the time they were sequestered.  Heck look into them all - bank accounts & everything.

Been working on it since I brought it up last night.

as soon as my munchkin goes to sleep tonight I'm going to hit the web too Titch!  What are your thoughts?  Do you think the media got to them before they were sequestered? Baez?  Who else could have?  The Anthonys?

My honest opinion, serious humble opinion, is that several advocates knew this would be a dp case. The media sensationalized this case and the public outcry was fierce. There were, still are, a ton of missing and/or murdered children, yet Caylee became the poster child. Because of how heinous the crime scene was, the dp was added. If the dp wasn't brought to the table, all these human rights groups & legal experts wouldn't have gotten involved to the extent that they did. I think it boils down to everything human rights. They do not believe in the dp no matter how horrific the murder. These activists believe the dp is murder, so they advocate against it.

I think there's more to Casey's dysfunction than what we've seen so far. This entire family gives me the heebie jeebies!  ::MonkeyDevil::

well said!  I totally agree - thanks for helping me understand!  Titch if you think of anything specific you need help with on your searches can you email me?  cayleejustice@yahoo.com


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 07:19:47 PM
I'm still out here in left field, trying to follow the money.

I can't find an exact replica of the playhouse. The one I found does have a bay window and looks quite similar. It sells for $400. What two year old needs a $400 toy?

Casey holds the purse strings and always has.

I think that is how Cindy's mother kept Cindy under control. The "do what I say and I will share my money with you." AND I think she always has. I imagine, IMO, George was nice enough fellow, but a big disappointment as a provider for her daughter.

Cindy has done fairly well, nothing special and as her mother has always done...held on to the purse strings...that is her control over George, Lee and Casey.

She spoiled them all with her checkbook and then when she demanded their loyalty they sometimes bolted, but always came back.

Lee, on the other hand, has become his own man, fending for himself. I don't know how far his loyalty goes, if it has not already gone.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 09, 2011, 07:20:27 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


Link doesn't work for me....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 07:20:44 PM
The alternate who spoke out and said we can to this conclusion..we decided this because..we..we..we..is a teacher of government in P County schools.

He said he was going to use this class in his classroom..and do what fail the kids that have a brain cell still functioning if they disagree with him.

If I was a taxpayer in that county I would be in the school boards face to make sure this man does not teach anything to do with this trial since he did such a lousy job of being an alternate.  All the we's and the agreement means that he too did not listen nor comprehend the prosecutions case, nor understand his duty as an alternate juror. 

It should not be a stretch for a teacher to connect the fact that chloroform was looked up 84 times on a computer and a toddler ends up being transported in the trunk of her mother's car that reeks of chloroform and human decomp.  It should not be a stretch for a teacher to know that duct tape never belongs over the nose and mouth of a toddler.  It should not be a stretch for a teacher to know that all the things found with that toddler were from her home and her mother's car. 

Since he couldn't connect those simple dots..as the State had done that for him..is he really capable of teaching and adding new info to his classes in a common sense way?

And as a mandated reporter of child abuse I find his lack of intelligence and worldliness astounding...as I do the nurses on the jury.  They are not worthy to work in their professions if they are that stupid and unable to grasp facts and pay attention to detail to draw the correct conclusions.  They had all the info they needed to and they wimped out.

I imagine these people wimp out often in life ..George would make a good best friend for him and the rest of the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 09, 2011, 07:23:28 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


OMG......got to be a joke.........
NO one on earth is going to believe that...
How stupid do they think the american public is??????
Get out of town....... ::MonkeyHaHa::
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Link dont work?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 07:24:09 PM
Can someone please explain what this means..For example, in the United States someone acquitted of a state murder charge can be retried for the same actions on a federal charge of violating civil rights.
I can't really explain it, but I do know that OJ Simpson was found guilty in a civil case and had to pay back the Goldman family (he hasn't voluntarily given them anything, I believe).. not sure if Nicole's family was supposed to get money from him as well.  I would assume (?) that you have to be a spouse or immediate family member.. or perhaps a family as a collective group, to sue, though.  The only person I see suing Casey is this possible grandmother who wants a DNA test done.  Don't really know. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 07:24:50 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


OMG......got to be a joke.........
NO one on earth is going to believe that...
How stupid do they think the american public is??????
Get out of town....... ::MonkeyHaHa::
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Link dont work?
  I couldn't get it to work either (even by copying and pasting the link right off this page).. but the whole thing sounds bizarre.  I doubt it's true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: labubske on July 09, 2011, 07:25:34 PM
Can someone please explain what this means..For example, in the United States someone acquitted of a state murder charge can be retried for the same actions on a federal charge of violating civil rights.

I found this...not really explaining clearly though:

Dear Judge Eaton: Many people are prosecuted both by the federal government and the state for the same crime, and this is not considered double jeopardy. This often happens with drug crimes. Is it possible for this to happen to Casey Anthony? -- Robbie


Very unlikely. Most federal crimes involve some federal interest such as interstate commerce or incidents occurring on federal land. Bank robberies and some drug crimes can be prosecuted in state and federal courts because the charges are brought by two separate sovereigns, The United States of America and the state of Florida. The federal interest in bank robberies is the fact that the banks are regulated by the federal government. The federal interest in drug cases is grounded on interstate commerce. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28475339/detail.html#ixzz1ReZXiweP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 09, 2011, 07:30:51 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)


OMG......got to be a joke.........
NO one on earth is going to believe that...
How stupid do they think the american public is??????
Get out of town....... ::MonkeyHaHa::
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Link dont work?
  I couldn't get it to work either (even by copying and pasting the link right off this page).. but the whole thing sounds bizarre.  I doubt it's true.

I doubt its true too.. I clicked it and it said its been removed and whatever else it said. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Brandi on July 09, 2011, 07:33:29 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.



Well, that's payment in my book.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 07:35:56 PM
Wow, A different take on this verdict...one which I haven't seen worded like this yet. Very interesting... Please note: This is not meant to defame, it is an observation.


http://wwwgagnonart.blogspot.com/2011/07/jennifer-ford-nursing-student-to.html

Thursday July 7, 2011
Jennifer Ford – Nursing Student to graduate from St Petersburg College

Quote:
One of the Jurors was Jennifer Ford, a Nursing Student, who also went with the other Jurors and found Casey Anthony not guilty of Child Abuse and Child Neglect. The Jury deliberated extremely fast; as if they just wanted to get it over with and go home. Jennifer Ford is planning on going into Nursing; the helping profession. Nurses, as well as Teachers are expected and required to report suspected victims of child abuse and child neglect. Casey Anthony probably would not have served much time for abuse and neglect. It is more of the principal though. What type of Society have we become? People are asking me from other parts in the country, who are these people down here.

I had not read this post yet when I posted mine..but your's came first.

That is what has me outraged..these ARE MANDATED REPORTERS ..they are supposed to be able to cut through the crap and protect abused children..ah..this is why I got out of social services to begin with..between the people that didn't report that should have and the judges that refuse to break up a bio family it just lost it's appeal and burnt me out big time.

Wasn't there a nursing student and a retired nurse  and a nurses aid and a teacher.  I think the retired nurse and teacher were alternates..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: labubske on July 09, 2011, 07:35:57 PM
I found this also.  This wasn't asked prior to being found not guilty (which doesn't mean innocent) anyhow, does this mean she cannot mention the lies or cannot profit at all?

Looking to the future, is there any way to keep the entire family from profiting off of books, movies, interviews, etc.? -- Lois, Dunnellon


Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: labubske on July 09, 2011, 07:36:38 PM
I found this also.  This was asked prior to being found not guilty (which doesn't mean innocent) anyhow, does this mean she cannot mention the lies or cannot profit at all?

Looking to the future, is there any way to keep the entire family from profiting off of books, movies, interviews, etc.? -- Lois, Dunnellon


Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU

self edit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 09, 2011, 07:40:28 PM
From FB - This is a supposed interview with a second cousin of Cindy's in Texas who says that George killed her and there's proof? Hmmm.... I have no idea about the validity of it, but my question is if there is proof then why wasn't it given to police. This woman says Casey and Cindy may be coming to Texas.
http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3 (http://krbe.com/portals/1/audi​o/rrshow/interviews/070611_CAS​EYANTHONY_familymember.mp3)

Please, no---Texas has enough problems! [  However, Texans wouldn't put up with all those Cindy/Casey shenanigans.  LOL



That's right, all have a big shot gun in their trucks....
 ::MonkeyKiss::
Well, MOST of us don't have a truck or shotguns -- but it only takes a few that do to get the message across!  ::CowboySmiley:: ::CowboySmiley::

I have a Mimi Cooper and a .22....and I could get my message across ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 07:43:28 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.



Well, that's payment in my book.

Me too Brandi.  ::MonkeyMad::  Wasn't it enough to be spoiled the hell put of in a luxury hotel, all expenses paid including food, extra curricular activities, etc for weeks? WEEKS! My husband & I purchase Premium Annual Passes for Disney every single year! 5 of them! All above 9 so they're $650+ a piece!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 09, 2011, 07:46:58 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.

I doubt Caylee ever really went to Disney World ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Dihannah1 on July 09, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
I haven't read back, been feeling sick.  But watching a rerun of Dr. Drew, interviewing Tracy Mclaughlin of Padilla, living in the house for 9 days.  She just went through what she observed and experienced first hand in the Anthony house.  She was very credible on the show.  Why in God's name did the Pros. use her on during the trial.  It was first hand and very eery.  I think she would have clinched the guilty virdect.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 07:50:45 PM
Wow, A different take on this verdict...one which I haven't seen worded like this yet. Very interesting... Please note: This is not meant to defame, it is an observation.


http://wwwgagnonart.blogspot.com/2011/07/jennifer-ford-nursing-student-to.html

Thursday July 7, 2011
Jennifer Ford – Nursing Student to graduate from St Petersburg College

Quote:
One of the Jurors was Jennifer Ford, a Nursing Student, who also went with the other Jurors and found Casey Anthony not guilty of Child Abuse and Child Neglect. The Jury deliberated extremely fast; as if they just wanted to get it over with and go home. Jennifer Ford is planning on going into Nursing; the helping profession. Nurses, as well as Teachers are expected and required to report suspected victims of child abuse and child neglect. Casey Anthony probably would not have served much time for abuse and neglect. It is more of the principal though. What type of Society have we become? People are asking me from other parts in the country, who are these people down here.

I had not read this post yet when I posted mine..but your's came first.

That is what has me outraged..these ARE MANDATED REPORTERS ..they are supposed to be able to cut through the crap and protect abused children..ah..this is why I got out of social services to begin with..between the people that didn't report that should have and the judges that refuse to break up a bio family it just lost it's appeal and burnt me out big time.

Wasn't there a nursing student and a retired nurse  and a nurses aid and a teacher.  I think the retired nurse and teacher were alternates..


I forget. I'll have to check out the thread with the jurors descriptions.

The Nurse's Aide was the lady with the 11th grade ed that you & I discussed before. She's the one that's retired, has a son & a grandson that were/are involved in drugs, plus this lady had a DUI in 1998. She's in her 60's now.

I remember there's a teacher, I think he was an alternate, taught health & phys ed. He may be the dunce that gave some of those initial interviews.

I cannot believe how deeply this has affected me. It's one of those things that will stay with me for the rest of my life. What a severe injustice. It sickens me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: shutterblog on July 09, 2011, 07:51:20 PM
you (not you, pharlap, but the general "you" LOL) have to be a total a$$hole to think that it's a good idea to stop a law like this. Even if a person is addle-brained enough to believe she's innocent, there is no reason why a parent shouldn't be held responsible for not reporting a missing child or the death of a child.   ::MonkeyMad::

First let me preface this that we support Caylee's Law and have signed the petition - but if you're interested in the other side's POV - my husband sent me this earlier today:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/08/shep-smith-cmon-do-we-really-need-a-new-law-aimed-at-casey-anthony-situations/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/08/shep-smith-cmon-do-we-really-need-a-new-law-aimed-at-casey-anthony-situations/)

Personally I think hotair.com is a fitting URL...but there you have it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 07:52:44 PM
I haven't read back, been feeling sick.  But watching a rerun of Dr. Drew, interviewing Tracy Mclaughlin of Padilla, living in the house for 9 days.  She just went through what she observed and experienced first hand in the Anthony house.  She was very credible on the show.  Why in God's name did the Pros. use her on during the trial.  It was first hand and very eery.  I think she would have clinched the guilty virdect.  ::MonkeyEek::

I think bc if they used her, they'd have to use Leonard, and they didn't want to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 09, 2011, 07:53:26 PM
I know it's just words....but KC NEVER REPORTED CAYLEE MISSING.....Cindy did....but KC didn't report chit!!  I just wish some of these talking heads would get it right....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 07:56:20 PM
I know it's just words....but KC NEVER REPORTED CAYLEE MISSING.....Cindy did....but KC didn't report chit!!  I just wish some of these talking heads would get it right....

...I know...Right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 07:58:49 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/os-casey-anthony-what-it-means-20110708,0,742775,full.story
THE STATE VS. CASEY ANTHONY
Why did Casey Anthony case rivet us?
By Anthony Colarossi, Orlando Sentinel
6:01 p.m. EDT, July 9, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Donna Marini, from Altamonte Springs, sat in on the trial for most of the six-week span, but she was drawn to the case long before the jury was picked.

"I lived with it for the last three years," Marini said. "It was like your favorite TV show, but live, so I was really interested in seeing how it was drawn out."

Marini was one of many left disillusioned with the jury's verdict, finding Casey Anthony not guilty of the most serious charges involving her daughter's death, including first-degree murder.

"I don't think we learned anything," she said. "We learned we can get away with murder."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 08:00:43 PM
I haven't read back, been feeling sick.  But watching a rerun of Dr. Drew, interviewing Tracy Mclaughlin of Padilla, living in the house for 9 days.  She just went through what she observed and experienced first hand in the Anthony house.  She was very credible on the show.  Why in God's name did the Pros. use her on during the trial.  It was first hand and very eery.  I think she would have clinched the guilty virdect.  ::MonkeyEek::
The way I understand it she wouldnt of been able to tell what Casey said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 08:02:43 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.



Well, that's payment in my book.

Me too Brandi.  ::MonkeyMad::  Wasn't it enough to be spoiled the hell put of in a luxury hotel, all expenses paid including food, extra curricular activities, etc for weeks? WEEKS! My husband & I purchase Premium Annual Passes for Disney every single year! 5 of them! All above 9 so they're $650+ a piece!
?


ABC's freebie is not going to look like such a freebie when this gal finds out she has to pay taxes on the tickets. This is considered income and she will be held accountable for ALL the tickets. Wonder how many she had in her group


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 08:03:45 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/opinion/sunday/10bruni.html?_r=1
A Sordid Cast Around Casey Anthony
By FRANK BRUNI
Published: July 9, 2011
AS a reflection of the criminal justice system, the not guilty verdict for Casey Anthony — who in all likelihood bore responsibility for her 2-year-old daughter’s death, but will never pay for that particular crime — was reassuring. Juries are supposed to presume the innocence of even the vilest defendants. Evidence must outweigh emotion. And in the end there simply wasn’t enough lucid, specific proof that Anthony had murdered her little girl.
But as a mirror of people’s opportunism, avarice, hypocrisy and hysterics, the case was galling. In the Anthony trial a system that worked almost too well met a cast of characters almost too bad to be believed, and that’s true not merely, or even mainly, of the Anthonys. It applies just as much to the rogues’ gallery around them
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 08:08:26 PM
IMO, Casey's NANNY deposition is going to be a repeat of "I work at Universal Studios. When finally confronted and cornered she flips off the lies like they were nothing. She is going to look at Gonzales and say, "I don't know this woman." As she said, "I don't work here."

Nothing=nothing-nothing. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 08:09:03 PM
you (not you, pharlap, but the general "you" LOL) have to be a total a$$hole to think that it's a good idea to stop a law like this. Even if a person is addle-brained enough to believe she's innocent, there is no reason why a parent shouldn't be held responsible for not reporting a missing child or the death of a child.   ::MonkeyMad::

First let me preface this that we support Caylee's Law and have signed the petition - but if you're interested in the other side's POV - my husband sent me this earlier today:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/08/shep-smith-cmon-do-we-really-need-a-new-law-aimed-at-casey-anthony-situations/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/08/shep-smith-cmon-do-we-really-need-a-new-law-aimed-at-casey-anthony-situations/)

Personally I think hotair.com is a fitting URL...but there you have it...
I appreciate the link!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 08:10:31 PM
I found this also.  This was asked prior to being found not guilty (which doesn't mean innocent) anyhow, does this mean she cannot mention the lies or cannot profit at all?

Looking to the future, is there any way to keep the entire family from profiting off of books, movies, interviews, etc.? -- Lois, Dunnellon


Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU

self edit

This is very important.  It means that if Casey tried to profit from this case in the form of interviews or books about the case or a Lifetime movie deal she could not.

However I am sure Mason and Baez will make it a caveat that she is not allowed to talk about the case.  Her life before..her life after..but not the case itself.  There are loopholes and they will find them.  Also they may try to set up a dummy corp that would funnel the profits through it to her. 

This maybe the reason that Jerry Springer backed out..what would he talk about with the A's and Casey ..they are only famous because of this case. 

I hope the State gets Cindy for perjury then she couldn't talk about the case either. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: shutterblog on July 09, 2011, 08:16:27 PM
I found this also.  This was asked prior to being found not guilty (which doesn't mean innocent) anyhow, does this mean she cannot mention the lies or cannot profit at all?

Looking to the future, is there any way to keep the entire family from profiting off of books, movies, interviews, etc.? -- Lois, Dunnellon


Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU

self edit

This is very important.  It means that if Casey tried to profit from this case in the form of interviews or books about the case or a Lifetime movie deal she could not.

 ::snipping2::

Keep in mind, this article was posted before the verdict was handed down, which means everyone still thought she'd be convicted of "something".  She was acquitted of everything but lying to police.  "Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case."  She was not convicted of murder, manslaughter, or child abuse / neglect.  It will be perfectly legal for her to discuss and profit off these charges.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 08:17:20 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/opinion/sunday/10bruni.html?_r=1
A Sordid Cast Around Casey Anthony
By FRANK BRUNI
Published: July 9, 2011
AS a reflection of the criminal justice system, the not guilty verdict for Casey Anthony — who in all likelihood bore responsibility for her 2-year-old daughter’s death, but will never pay for that particular crime — was reassuring. Juries are supposed to presume the innocence of even the vilest defendants. Evidence must outweigh emotion. And in the end there simply wasn’t enough lucid, specific proof that Anthony had murdered her little girl.
But as a mirror of people’s opportunism, avarice, hypocrisy and hysterics, the case was galling. In the Anthony trial a system that worked almost too well met a cast of characters almost too bad to be believed, and that’s true not merely, or even mainly, of the Anthonys. It applies just as much to the rogues’ gallery around them
 ::snipping::Thanks that was a good read, I still cant accept that somehow she will be back in court for this crime


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 08:18:36 PM

Keep in mind, this article was posted before the verdict was handed down, which means everyone still thought she'd be convicted of "something".  She was acquitted of everything but lying to police.  "Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case."  She was not convicted of murder, manslaughter, or child abuse / neglect.  It will be perfectly legal for her to discuss and profit off these charges.
This might seem silly to ask, but isn't lying to police a "crime"? She was convicted and had to serve jail time..  why doesn't that count?  ::MonkeyEek::  Does the law specifically state which crimes a person has to be convicted of?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 08:18:46 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/opinion/sunday/10bruni.html?_r=1
A Sordid Cast Around Casey Anthony
By FRANK BRUNI
Published: July 9, 2011
AS a reflection of the criminal justice system, the not guilty verdict for Casey Anthony — who in all likelihood bore responsibility for her 2-year-old daughter’s death, but will never pay for that particular crime — was reassuring. Juries are supposed to presume the innocence of even the vilest defendants. Evidence must outweigh emotion. And in the end there simply wasn’t enough lucid, specific proof that Anthony had murdered her little girl.
But as a mirror of people’s opportunism, avarice, hypocrisy and hysterics, the case was galling. In the Anthony trial a system that worked almost too well met a cast of characters almost too bad to be believed, and that’s true not merely, or even mainly, of the Anthonys. It applies just as much to the rogues’ gallery around them
 ::snipping2::
sorry i got in your box
Thanks that was a good read, I still cant accept that somehow she will not  be back in court for this crime


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 08:19:16 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.

I doubt Caylee ever really went to Disney World ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

I don't think she did either Sunny.

In one of the earlier interviews of Cindy and George they talked about the fact Caylee was just getting to the age where they would be able to take her to Disney or Sea World , etc and they had been looking forward to taking her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 08:20:52 PM

Keep in mind, this article was posted before the verdict was handed down, which means everyone still thought she'd be convicted of "something".  She was acquitted of everything but lying to police.  "Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case."  She was not convicted of murder, manslaughter, or child abuse / neglect.  It will be perfectly legal for her to discuss and profit off these charges.
This might seem silly to ask, but isn't lying to police a "crime"? She was convicted and had to serve jail time..  why doesn't that count?  ::MonkeyEek::  Does the law specifically state which crimes a person has to be convicted of?

Even with this law that can be fixed easily she can put it in another person's name, but wonder who she could trust that good


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 08:21:20 PM
 ::snipping2::

Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU
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This is very important.  It means that if Casey tried to profit from this case in the form of interviews or books about the case or a Lifetime movie deal she could not.

However I am sure Mason and Baez will make it a caveat that she is not allowed to talk about the case.  Her life before..her life after..but not the case itself.  There are loopholes and they will find them.  Also they may try to set up a dummy corp that would funnel the profits through it to her. 

This maybe the reason that Jerry Springer backed out..what would he talk about with the A's and Casey ..they are only famous because of this case. 

I hope the State gets Cindy for perjury then she couldn't talk about the case either. 
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At first I thought "no" the only thing Casey could NOT talk about were charges for which she has been convicted; the lies. Duh, the entire trial was based on her lies. Sorry I am so slow.

I could not write the non-fiction or shoot a film about the trail WITHOUT presenting the lies...it would be an impossibility.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: shutterblog on July 09, 2011, 08:21:29 PM
Keep in mind, this article was posted before the verdict was handed down, which means everyone still thought she'd be convicted of "something".  She was acquitted of everything but lying to police.  "Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case."  She was not convicted of murder, manslaughter, or child abuse / neglect.  It will be perfectly legal for her to discuss and profit off these charges.

http://m.ibtimes.com/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-verdict-cnn-nancy-grace-twitter-nancy-grace-casey-anthony-trial-casey-an-175889.html (http://m.ibtimes.com/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-verdict-cnn-nancy-grace-twitter-nancy-grace-casey-anthony-trial-casey-an-175889.html)

 ::snipping2::

Future Millionaire

On the contrary, analysts say Anthony could be the future millionaire as she could profit from the extraordinary publicity of the case.

Anthony is expected to be approached by TV channels, magazines for interviews and she may earn big bucks as such offers will pay her millions.

 "I would not be surprised, given the notoriety and infamy of the case, if Casey gets $1 million to give a full interview," California defense attorney and legal analyst David Wohl told Fox News.

Even the Florida law may not be able to stop Anthony from profiting from her crime. Typically, Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from that crime. But in the Anthony case, law couldn't prohibit her as she wasn't convicted of murder.  Moreover, nothing stops her from writing a book or signing a movie deal that may earn her more money.
Edit to change red color to navy.
There is a solid chance that Casey Anthony's memoir could be a best-seller as people may buy it to know what exactly happened to Caylee. If any company wants to make a movie out of it, then Anthony could really strike gold.

On the other hand, public may boycott interviews, books, or movies of Casey Anthony due to the emotional response people have expressed to the verdict.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 08:22:21 PM
::snipping2::

Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU

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[/quote]

This is very important.  It means that if Casey tried to profit from this case in the form of interviews or books about the case or a Lifetime movie deal she could not.

However I am sure Mason and Baez will make it a caveat that she is not allowed to talk about the case.  Her life before..her life after..but not the case itself.  There are loopholes and they will find them.  Also they may try to set up a dummy corp that would funnel the profits through it to her. 

This maybe the reason that Jerry Springer backed out..what would he talk about with the A's and Casey ..they are only famous because of this case. 

I hope the State gets Cindy for perjury then she couldn't talk about the case either. 
[/quote]





Oops, sorry
At first I thought "no" the only thing Casey could NOT talk about were charges for which she has been convicted; the lies. Duh, the entire trial was based on her lies. Sorry I am so slow.

I could not write the non-fiction or shoot a film about the trail WITHOUT presenting the lies...it would be an impossibility.
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
I found this also.  This was asked prior to being found not guilty (which doesn't mean innocent) anyhow, does this mean she cannot mention the lies or cannot profit at all?

Looking to the future, is there any way to keep the entire family from profiting off of books, movies, interviews, etc.? -- Lois, Dunnellon


Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU

self edit

This is very important.  It means that if Casey tried to profit from this case in the form of interviews or books about the case or a Lifetime movie deal she could not.

However I am sure Mason and Baez will make it a caveat that she is not allowed to talk about the case.  Her life before..her life after..but not the case itself.  There are loopholes and they will find them.  Also they may try to set up a dummy corp that would funnel the profits through it to her. 

This maybe the reason that Jerry Springer backed out..what would he talk about with the A's and Casey ..they are only famous because of this case. 

I hope the State gets Cindy for perjury then she couldn't talk about the case either. 

Casey is free to do anything she wants come July 17th. She was found Not Guilty, so she can sign a contract for a movie, book, interview, etc. The only thing she was found guilty of was the check fraud which was time credited, and guilty on those 4 counts of lying to cops which is a misdemeanor.

Sickening isn't it?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 09, 2011, 08:22:50 PM
I know it's just words....but KC NEVER REPORTED CAYLEE MISSING.....Cindy did....but KC didn't report chit!!  I just wish some of these talking heads would get it right....

Me too---I don't think Casey would have ever reported it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 08:23:02 PM
Well, there can only be hope that the public treats her the same way they treat OJ.  Now, people are pi$$ed and it's to be expected.  I'm talking long-term..   I don't want it ever to be glamorous to do what she did and to get away with it. 

Anybody catch Bill O'Reilly the other night, when Dennis Miller talked about how heinous a crime you have to commit now days for a person to be found guilty?   (I'm not much a fan of Bill, and wish Dennis would have stayed out of politics.. well, not showing up on these shows, that is).. but he has a point.  I guess what happened to Caylee wasn't disturbing enough for these jurors.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 08:23:42 PM
I know it's just words....but KC NEVER REPORTED CAYLEE MISSING.....Cindy did....but KC didn't report chit!!  I just wish some of these talking heads would get it right....

Me too---I don't think Casey would have ever reported it.
  not if she hadn't been caught and had no choice but to do so. And the way she spoke over the phone to the police.. it was like she lost her dog or something.. not a child.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 08:25:18 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/07casey.html

Quote:
In an interview at her home on Wednesday night, Lynn Ford, Jennifer Ford’s mother, said ABC did not pay Ms. Ford but treated her and four others to a trip to Disney World. ABC is a unit of the Walt Disney Company.

I doubt Caylee ever really went to Disney World ::MonkeyTears:: ::MonkeyTears::

I don't think she did either Sunny.

In one of the earlier interviews of Cindy and George they talked about the fact Caylee was just getting to the age where they would be able to take her to Disney or Sea World , etc and they had been looking forward to taking her. 

Makes my eyes wet...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: DonFL on July 09, 2011, 08:26:12 PM

Keep in mind, this article was posted before the verdict was handed down, which means everyone still thought she'd be convicted of "something".  She was acquitted of everything but lying to police.  "Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case."  She was not convicted of murder, manslaughter, or child abuse / neglect.  It will be perfectly legal for her to discuss and profit off these charges.
This might seem silly to ask, but isn't lying to police a "crime"? She was convicted and had to serve jail time..  why doesn't that count?  ::MonkeyEek::  Does the law specifically state which crimes a person has to be convicted of?

No one will want to interview her or make a movie about lying to the police.  Any offers will concern the murder.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
I haven't read back, been feeling sick.  But watching a rerun of Dr. Drew, interviewing Tracy Mclaughlin of Padilla, living in the house for 9 days.  She just went through what she observed and experienced first hand in the Anthony house.  She was very credible on the show.  Why in God's name did the Pros. use her on during the trial.  It was first hand and very eery.  I think she would have clinched the guilty virdect.  ::MonkeyEek::

I have wondered the same thing.  The only thing I can come up with is they were working for Casey and may have signed a confidentiality agreement with Baez..which goes to work product.  Infact I thought Baez made a big deal about that with LP..that they had a contract of some sort.

So she may have talked to LE willingly..but they couldn't use her testimony in court due to Baez work product issue..IDK. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tevye on July 09, 2011, 08:30:35 PM
I found this also.  This was asked prior to being found not guilty (which doesn't mean innocent) anyhow, does this mean she cannot mention the lies or cannot profit at all?

Looking to the future, is there any way to keep the entire family from profiting off of books, movies, interviews, etc.? -- Lois, Dunnellon


Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU

self edit

This is very important.  It means that if Casey tried to profit from this case in the form of interviews or books about the case or a Lifetime movie deal she could not.

However I am sure Mason and Baez will make it a caveat that she is not allowed to talk about the case.  Her life before..her life after..but not the case itself.  There are loopholes and they will find them.  Also they may try to set up a dummy corp that would funnel the profits through it to her. 

This maybe the reason that Jerry Springer backed out..what would he talk about with the A's and Casey ..they are only famous because of this case. 

I hope the State gets Cindy for perjury then she couldn't talk about the case either. 
She was not convicted of murder, so she can still profit from it. The injustice never ends, the whore never stops pole-dancing for big bucks. ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 08:31:07 PM

Keep in mind, this article was posted before the verdict was handed down, which means everyone still thought she'd be convicted of "something".  She was acquitted of everything but lying to police.  "Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case."  She was not convicted of murder, manslaughter, or child abuse / neglect.  It will be perfectly legal for her to discuss and profit off these charges.
This might seem silly to ask, but isn't lying to police a "crime"? She was convicted and had to serve jail time..  why doesn't that count?  ::MonkeyEek::  Does the law specifically state which crimes a person has to be convicted of?

No one will want to interview her or make a movie about lying to the police.  Any offers will concern the murder.







Casey will NEVER talk about the murder. She won't even say Caylee's name. She just changes the subject. Boy will the big bucks be disappointed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: shutterblog on July 09, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
http://m.ibtimes.com/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-verdict-cnn-nancy-grace-twitter-nancy-grace-casey-anthony-trial-casey-an-175889.html (http://m.ibtimes.com/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-verdict-cnn-nancy-grace-twitter-nancy-grace-casey-anthony-trial-casey-an-175889.html)

 ::snipping2::

Future Millionaire

On the contrary, analysts say Anthony could be the future millionaire as she could profit from the extraordinary publicity of the case.

Anthony is expected to be approached by TV channels, magazines for interviews and she may earn big bucks as such offers will pay her millions.

 "I would not be surprised, given the notoriety and infamy of the case, if Casey gets $1 million to give a full interview," California defense attorney and legal analyst David Wohl told Fox News.

Even the Florida law may not be able to stop Anthony from profiting from her crime. Typically, Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from that crime. But in the Anthony case, law couldn't prohibit her as she wasn't convicted of murder.  Moreover, nothing stops her from writing a book or signing a movie deal that may earn her more money.
Edit to change red color to navy.
There is a solid chance that Casey Anthony's memoir could be a best-seller as people may buy it to know what exactly happened to Caylee. If any company wants to make a movie out of it, then Anthony could really strike gold.

On the other hand, public may boycott interviews, books, or movies of Casey Anthony due to the emotional response people have expressed to the verdict.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_Mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0944/Sec512.htm&StatuteYear=2004 (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_Mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0944/Sec512.htm&StatuteYear=2004)

944.512  State lien on proceeds from literary or other type of account of crime for which convicted.--

(1)  A lien prior in dignity to all others shall exist in favor of the state upon royalties, commissions, proceeds of sale, or any other thing of value payable to or accruing to a convicted felon or a person on her or his behalf, including any person to whom the proceeds may be transferred or assigned by gift or otherwise, from any literary, cinematic, or other account of the crime for which she or he was convicted. A conviction shall be defined as a guilty verdict by a jury or judge, or a guilty or nolo contendere plea by the defendant, regardless of adjudication of guilt. The lien shall attach at the time of the conviction in county or circuit court. In the event of an appeal, the funds will be held in the Revolving Escrow Trust Fund of the Department of Legal Affairs until the appeal is resolved.

 ::snipping2::

So even though she was a convicted felon from the check charges, the law here for this trial applies to the crimes she was not convicted of (murder, manslaughter, child neglect / abuse) - and as mentioned previously, the lying to police charges were just misdemeanors - not felonies.
Edit to change red color to navy, with red and maroon reserved for use by admin & moderators


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 08:36:56 PM
Sooo...Who were the fricken jurors that wouldn't vote Casey guilty no matter what?

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html
Snipped:
But Juror No. 2 didn’t buy that.

“The six that voted guilty said it didn’t matter at what point in time she came home and found out her daughter was missing,” he said. “She had to report it in some way, shape or form, and that’s where the negligence came in.”

But some jurors, he said, had decided not to convict Casey Anthony of any charge in the girl’s death. By lunch Tuesday, the guilty side started to lose votes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 08:42:18 PM


 ::snipping2::

So even though she was a convicted felon from the check charges, the law here for this trial applies to the crimes she was not convicted of (murder, manslaughter, child neglect / abuse) - and as mentioned previously, the lying to police charges were just misdemeanors - not felonies.
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 ::snipping2::


Didn't want to see this. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 08:45:32 PM
I found this also.  This was asked prior to being found not guilty (which doesn't mean innocent) anyhow, does this mean she cannot mention the lies or cannot profit at all?

Looking to the future, is there any way to keep the entire family from profiting off of books, movies, interviews, etc.? -- Lois, Dunnellon


Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU

self edit

This is very important.  It means that if Casey tried to profit from this case in the form of interviews or books about the case or a Lifetime movie deal she could not.

However I am sure Mason and Baez will make it a caveat that she is not allowed to talk about the case.  Her life before..her life after..but not the case itself.  There are loopholes and they will find them.  Also they may try to set up a dummy corp that would funnel the profits through it to her. 

This maybe the reason that Jerry Springer backed out..what would he talk about with the A's and Casey ..they are only famous because of this case. 

I hope the State gets Cindy for perjury then she couldn't talk about the case either. 

Casey is free to do anything she wants come July 17th. She was found Not Guilty, so she can sign a contract for a movie, book, interview, etc. The only thing she was found guilty of was the check fraud which was time credited, and guilty on those 4 counts of lying to cops which is a misdemeanor.

Sickening isn't it?



Yes very..and even more sickening that not only she ..but the people willing to produce these shows, movies or books will be making a profit off of a dead child.

Even though she is found guilty of lying..couldn't the State of Florida say that  lying was part of this case..and since she was guilty in that part of this case she can not profit from any part of the case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 08:49:38 PM
Sooo...Who were the fricken jurors that wouldn't vote Casey guilty no matter what?

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html
Snipped:
But Juror No. 2 didn’t buy that.

“The six that voted guilty said it didn’t matter at what point in time she came home and found out her daughter was missing,” he said. “She had to report it in some way, shape or form, and that’s where the negligence came in.”

But some jurors, he said, had decided not to convict Casey Anthony of any charge in the girl’s death. By lunch Tuesday, the guilty side started to lose votes.
If he felt that strongly I would of never changed my vote of guilty to manslaughter or child neglect, I dont feel sorry for him at all due to he had crumbled fast and gave in to the others, If they didnt want to do the job a hung jury would of at least got it to be retried in court.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 08:52:03 PM
I wish the law was like that, Gypsy, unfortunately it isn't.

Stinks worse than third world sewage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Monken on July 09, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
Hey Everyone!  ::MonkeyKiss::
I found this in my legal question & answer book. Why would this not apply to this case or would it?



Question:
Can a person be put on trial for the same crime in both federal and state courts?

Answer:
Yes. If a person is accused of something that is a crime under both state and federal law, he can be tried in both a state and a federal court. The state and federal governments are seperate entities, and a conviction or acquittal in one court does not prevent a subsequent prosecution in th other. The same holds true for the punishment imposed. However, the sentence in one court might be taken into consideration in fixing the punishment in the other court-----for example, one sentence might be suspended. Being prosecuted for violating the laws of two different governments (federal and state) does not result in double jeopardy(being tried twice for the same crime), which is forbidden by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The prohibition of double jeopardy is aimed solely at preventing prosecutors from bringing someone to trial again in the same court system for the same offense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 08:54:01 PM
Sooo...Who were the fricken jurors that wouldn't vote Casey guilty no matter what?

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html
Snipped:
But Juror No. 2 didn’t buy that.

“The six that voted guilty said it didn’t matter at what point in time she came home and found out her daughter was missing,” he said. “She had to report it in some way, shape or form, and that’s where the negligence came in.”

But some jurors, he said, had decided not to convict Casey Anthony of any charge in the girl’s death. By lunch Tuesday, the guilty side started to lose votes.
If he felt that strongly I would of never changed my vote of guilty to manslaughter or child neglect, I dont feel sorry for him at all due to he had crumbled fast and gave in to the others, If they didnt want to do the job a hung jury would of at least got it to be retried in court.

I agree. A hung jury would have made a mistrial & she would have remained in jail & tried again.

Incompetent gutless fools.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Aurelia7 on July 09, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
Monkeys, I need help if you would be so kind.  On another forum I visit (not crime - more music related) someone posted this:

The jury did their job. There simply wasn't enough evidence to place it "beyond a reasonable doubt." She's obviously a terrible mother, but there needed to be more to prove murder.

I want to respond, but not only am I angry to the point of seizure, but when I try to think of the best way to state what I feel, my head is a tornado of thoughts.  I can't pull it together to come up with a concise argument.  I really like that analogy from NG in which she said that if you were to go outside and see puddles and people walking with umbrellas, it would be obvious that it had rained and there'd be no reason to ask for proof of rain.  (Or something like that).

Again, my head is spinning; I can't corral my thoughts!  Is there a post here or an article that really sums things up?  This is embarrassing, my having a brain-fart like this.  I've read so many opinions about the jury that I agree with, but I can't organize them.  I feel so lame.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 08:56:43 PM
http://m.ibtimes.com/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-verdict-cnn-nancy-grace-twitter-nancy-grace-casey-anthony-trial-casey-an-175889.html (http://m.ibtimes.com/casey-anthony-casey-anthony-verdict-cnn-nancy-grace-twitter-nancy-grace-casey-anthony-trial-casey-an-175889.html)

 ::snipping2::

Future Millionaire

On the contrary, analysts say Anthony could be the future millionaire as she could profit from the extraordinary publicity of the case.

Anthony is expected to be approached by TV channels, magazines for interviews and she may earn big bucks as such offers will pay her millions.

 "I would not be surprised, given the notoriety and infamy of the case, if Casey gets $1 million to give a full interview," California defense attorney and legal analyst David Wohl told Fox News.

Even the Florida law may not be able to stop Anthony from profiting from her crime. Typically, Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from that crime. But in the Anthony case, law couldn't prohibit her as she wasn't convicted of murder.  Moreover, nothing stops her from writing a book or signing a movie deal that may earn her more money.
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There is a solid chance that Casey Anthony's memoir could be a best-seller as people may buy it to know what exactly happened to Caylee. If any company wants to make a movie out of it, then Anthony could really strike gold.

On the other hand, public may boycott interviews, books, or movies of Casey Anthony due to the emotional response people have expressed to the verdict.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_Mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0944/Sec512.htm&StatuteYear=2004 (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_Mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0944/Sec512.htm&StatuteYear=2004)

944.512  State lien on proceeds from literary or other type of account of crime for which convicted.--

(1)  A lien prior in dignity to all others shall exist in favor of the state upon royalties, commissions, proceeds of sale, or any other thing of value payable to or accruing to a convicted felon or a person on her or his behalf, including any person to whom the proceeds may be transferred or assigned by gift or otherwise, from any literary, cinematic, or other account of the crime for which she or he was convicted. A conviction shall be defined as a guilty verdict by a jury or judge, or a guilty or nolo contendere plea by the defendant, regardless of adjudication of guilt. The lien shall attach at the time of the conviction in county or circuit court. In the event of an appeal, the funds will be held in the Revolving Escrow Trust Fund of the Department of Legal Affairs until the appeal is resolved.

 ::snipping2::

So even though she was a convicted felon from the check charges, the law here for this trial applies to the crimes she was not convicted of (murder, manslaughter, child neglect / abuse) - and as mentioned previously, the lying to police charges were just misdemeanors - not felonies.
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Casey Anthony was found guilty as charged of FALSE INFORMATION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.  Does that imply Casey cannot include her lies to law inforcement in her story to the major networks?

Janet

++++++  

Jury instuctions + charges in the Casey Anthony murder trial
Jul-4-11 10:23am


JURY INSTRUCTIONS

INTRODUCTION TO FINAL INSTRUCTIONS

Members of the jury, I thank you for your attention during this trial. Please pay attention to the instructions I am about to give you.

<snipped>

FALSE INFORMATION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT

§ 837.055,Fla.Stat.

To prove the crime of False Information to Law Enforcement, the State must prove the following five elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

1. Yuri Melich was conducting a missing person investigation.

2. Yuri Melich was a law enforcement officer.

3. Casey Marie Anthony knew that Yuri Melich was a law enforcement officer.

4. Casey Marie Anthony knowingly and willfully gave false information to Yuri Melich.

5. Casey Marie Anthony intended to mislead Yuri Melich or impede the investigation.

“Willfully” means intentionally, knowingly and purposely.

<snipped>

http://www.zimbio.com/Casey+Anthony/articles/Q6sfyR2oKyr/Jury+instuctions+charges+Casey+Anthony+murder


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
Hey Everyone!  ::MonkeyKiss::
I found this in my legal question & answer book. Why would this not apply to this case or would it?



Question:
Can a person be put on trial for the same crime in both federal and state courts?

Answer:
Yes. If a person is accused of something that is a crime under both state and federal law, he can be tried in both a state and a federal court. The state and federal governments are seperate entities, and a conviction or acquittal in one court does not prevent a subsequent prosecution in th other. The same holds true for the punishment imposed. However, the sentence in one court might be taken into consideration in fixing the punishment in the other court-----for example, one sentence might be suspended. Being prosecuted for violating the laws of two different governments (federal and state) does not result in double jeopardy(being tried twice for the same crime), which is forbidden by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The prohibition of double jeopardy is aimed solely at preventing prosecutors from bringing someone to trial again in the same court system for the same offense.

This was answered some pages ago I think. Ask The Judge, or whatever it's called, said that what you've referenced above would pertain to crossing state lines and/or drug trafficking...not this case of Caylee's death.

Very disheartening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 08:57:42 PM
Hey Everyone!  ::MonkeyKiss::
I found this in my legal question & answer book. Why would this not apply to this case or would it?



Question:
Can a person be put on trial for the same crime in both federal and state courts?

Answer:
Yes. If a person is accused of something that is a crime under both state and federal law, he can be tried in both a state and a federal court. The state and federal governments are seperate entities, and a conviction or acquittal in one court does not prevent a subsequent prosecution in th other. The same holds true for the punishment imposed. However, the sentence in one court might be taken into consideration in fixing the punishment in the other court-----for example, one sentence might be suspended. Being prosecuted for violating the laws of two different governments (federal and state) does not result in double jeopardy(being tried twice for the same crime), which is forbidden by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The prohibition of double jeopardy is aimed solely at preventing prosecutors from bringing someone to trial again in the same court system for the same offense.






I know we have talked all this to death, but does the above post relate to murder, or just certain crimes?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 08:58:31 PM
Janet, the lies to OCSO were a misdemeanor, not a felony murder. She is free to talk about anything she wants after 7/17/11.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 09:02:48 PM
Hey Everyone!  ::MonkeyKiss::
I found this in my legal question & answer book. Why would this not apply to this case or would it?


Question:
Can a person be put on trial for the same crime in both federal and state courts?

Answer:
Yes. If a person is accused of something that is a crime under both state and federal law, he can be tried in both a state and a federal court. The state and federal governments are seperate entities, and a conviction or acquittal in one court does not prevent a subsequent prosecution in th other. The same holds true for the punishment imposed. However, the sentence in one court might be taken into consideration in fixing the punishment in the other court-----for example, one sentence might be suspended. Being prosecuted for violating the laws of two different governments (federal and state) does not result in double jeopardy(being tried twice for the same crime), which is forbidden by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The prohibition of double jeopardy is aimed solely at preventing prosecutors from bringing someone to trial again in the same court system for the same offense.


I know we have talked all this to death, but does the above post relate to murder, or just certain crimes?

This was posted by labubske a couple pages back.

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Dear Judge Eaton: Many people are prosecuted both by the federal government and the state for the same crime, and this is not considered double jeopardy. This often happens with drug crimes. Is it possible for this to happen to Casey Anthony? -- Robbie


Very unlikely. Most federal crimes involve some federal interest such as interstate commerce or incidents occurring on federal land. Bank robberies and some drug crimes can be prosecuted in state and federal courts because the charges are brought by two separate sovereigns, The United States of America and the state of Florida. The federal interest in bank robberies is the fact that the banks are regulated by the federal government. The federal interest in drug cases is grounded on interstate commerce. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28475339/detail.html#ixzz1ReZXiweP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 09:02:58 PM
 ::snipping2::

This was answered some pages ago I think. Ask The Judge, or whatever it's called, said that what you've referenced above would pertain to crossing state lines and/or drug trafficking...not this case of Caylee's death.

Very disheartening.
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 ::snipping2::






Several years ago a couple of brothers murdered a banker in Missouri and dumped his body in Grand Lake in Oklahoma. They are in prison. Think both states got them but for different things.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Monken on July 09, 2011, 09:03:09 PM
Thanks Yoder & Titch, my husband just asked if murder is a federal crime? i so wish she could charged through a federal court!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 09, 2011, 09:04:06 PM
Monkeys, I need help if you would be so kind.  On another forum I visit (not crime - more music related) someone posted this:

The jury did their job. There simply wasn't enough evidence to place it "beyond a reasonable doubt." She's obviously a terrible mother, but there needed to be more to prove murder.

I want to respond, but not only am I angry to the point of seizure, but when I try to think of the best way to state what I feel, my head is a tornado of thoughts.  I can't pull it together to come up with a concise argument.  I really like that analogy from NG in which she said that if you were to go outside and see puddles and people walking with umbrellas, it would be obvious that it had rained and there'd be no reason to ask for proof of rain.  (Or something like that).

Again, my head is spinning; I can't corral my thoughts!  Is there a post here or an article that really sums things up?  This is embarrassing, my having a brain-fart like this.  I've read so many opinions about the jury that I agree with, but I can't organize them.  I feel so lame.
  Don't feel lame.  This whole thing is just too much to wrap one's brain around.   HUGS!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: theboyzmom on July 09, 2011, 09:10:52 PM
Thanks Yoder & Titch, my husband just asked if murder is a federal crime? i so wish she could charged through a federal court!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Murder is generally not a federal crime. That changes only when the crime includes crossing state lines, happens in DC, happens on a Military base or in the commission of a federal felony (bank robbery ect). Other than that the states are left to prosecute. Too bad KC did not take a trip over the state line, even for a minute - then both places could have attempted to try her and the Feds could have gotten her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 09, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
Monkeys, I need help if you would be so kind.  On another forum I visit (not crime - more music related) someone posted this:

The jury did their job. There simply wasn't enough evidence to place it "beyond a reasonable doubt." She's obviously a terrible mother, but there needed to be more to prove murder.

I want to respond, but not only am I angry to the point of seizure, but when I try to think of the best way to state what I feel, my head is a tornado of thoughts.  I can't pull it together to come up with a concise argument.  I really like that analogy from NG in which she said that if you were to go outside and see puddles and people walking with umbrellas, it would be obvious that it had rained and there'd be no reason to ask for proof of rain.  (Or something like that).

Again, my head is spinning; I can't corral my thoughts!  Is there a post here or an article that really sums things up?  This is embarrassing, my having a brain-fart like this.  I've read so many opinions about the jury that I agree with, but I can't organize them.  I feel so lame.
  Don't feel lame.  This whole thing is just too much to wrap one's brain around.   HUGS!







MOTIVE: Casey is the only one who could profit from Caylee's death. She wanted Caylee out of the way. Caylee inconvenienced her. Casey also wanted to punish her domineering mother. Caylee is the only thing in Casey's life, over which she had complete control.

OPPORTUNITY:  Geroge was at work, Cindy was at work, Lee was at work. Casey is the only person to have access to the house, computer, duct tape, her car, cloroform, laundry bags and everything else associated with the murder.

CAUSE OF DEATH: Duct tape. And only a demented mother would add a heart shaped sticker.

MANNER OF DEATH: Suffocation.

Tidy package, tied up with a bow. The prosecution presented the jury with a "gift" and the they thew it back unopened. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 09, 2011, 09:13:56 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=14036799
Anthony Trial a Showcase for HLN's Nancy Grace
By DAVID BAUDER AP Television Writer
NEW YORK July 9, 2011 (AP)

 ::snipping2::
One of the jurors in the Anthony case, Elizabeth Ford, told ABC News that the 51-year-old Grace was not fit for television.

"I think a lot of things she says fuel the fire and they're based on nothing," Ford said. "I'm obviously against making decisions based on just speculation and opinion."

Back down? You don't know Nancy. After one of Anthony's lawyers said the verdict should send a message to those who engage in "media assassination" — remarks considered largely aimed at Grace — she said she wasn't concerned. "I don't like them much either," she said on a CNN blog.

"When I take a stand, I don't expect people to like what I have to say," Grace, who declined to be interviewed by The Associated Press, told ABC News. "But I do hold myself up to the standard of trying to tell the truth. And if they don't like it or if it hurts their feelings, there's nothing I can do about that. But I can tell you this much: That mom is guilty."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: DonFL on July 09, 2011, 09:14:46 PM
Monkeys, I need help if you would be so kind.  On another forum I visit (not crime - more music related) someone posted this:

The jury did their job. There simply wasn't enough evidence to place it "beyond a reasonable doubt." She's obviously a terrible mother, but there needed to be more to prove murder.

I want to respond, but not only am I angry to the point of seizure, but when I try to think of the best way to state what I feel, my head is a tornado of thoughts.  I can't pull it together to come up with a concise argument.  I really like that analogy from NG in which she said that if you were to go outside and see puddles and people walking with umbrellas, it would be obvious that it had rained and there'd be no reason to ask for proof of rain.  (Or something like that).

Again, my head is spinning; I can't corral my thoughts!  Is there a post here or an article that really sums things up?  This is embarrassing, my having a brain-fart like this.  I've read so many opinions about the jury that I agree with, but I can't organize them.  I feel so lame.
  Don't feel lame.  This whole thing is just too much to wrap one's brain around.   HUGS!

I wouldn't bother responding.  This has become comparable to politics & religion.  You will NEVER convince these people that they are wrong.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 09:19:02 PM
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I am still madder than a hornet that had his nest knocked down. It's not leaving!

I sure hope others feel like this.

Stupidest family that ever lived.

Stupidest jury ever to vote.


It just makes me want to whip off my shoe and smack it against a wall!!!!! I don't think a cooling down period is going to help much.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 09:20:01 PM
Janet, the lies to OCSO were a misdemeanor, not a felony murder. She is free to talk about anything she wants after 7/17/11.

In other words ... profiting from a misdemeanor conviction is legal.

Everything about the Casey Anthony case and the Guy Turcotte case implies that the jury process in both the United States and Canada needs fixing.

Janet

+++++

A family's demise

Isabelle Gaston knew her husband was furious about the failure of their marriage, but she never thought he'd hurt their kids. As a jury learned over the past few months, she was wrong
 
By Sue Montgomery, Postmedia News July 9, 2011

<snipped>

Finally, Fournier called 911 and calmly told the dispatcher that her 36-year-old son was in a locked house with his two children.

"He just separated and told me last night he was destroyed," she said, her voice breaking as she began to cry. "We need help. Can you please come?"

Sûreté du Québec officers Patrick Bigras and Marc-Antoine Bigue responded to the 911 call. They arrived at Turcotte's Piedmont home just after 11 a.m. They got into the house through a window, then climbed the stairs to the bedroom with their guns drawn, yelling "Police! Police! Is anyone here?"

The horrific scene they discovered forced Bigras, an officer with 12 years' experience, to take a 2½-month leave of absence to cope with post-traumatic stress disorder.

Olivier lay on his double bed, his nude torso mutilated with 27 stab wounds. Anne-Sophie, on her single bed in the adjacent bedroom, wore only her panties, her tiny body torn by 19 stab wounds.

<snipped>

On Tuesday, a jury of four men and seven women found Turcotte not criminally responsible for the killings because of a mental disorder.

Sitting shackled in the prisoner's box, Turcotte closed his eyes as the verdict was announced then began crying, as he has throughout what has been one of the most emotional and talked-about trials in Quebec

He will stay behind bars, where he's been since his arrest, until a special psychiatric panel sees him within the next 45 days and determines whether he should spend time at the Philippe Pinel Institute or be freed.

Outside the courtroom afterwards, Gaston said she was in shock.

"I didn't expect this at all. I'm disappointed for Anne-Sophie and Olivier and for all children that could be in d anger," she said. "No adult has the right to determine the life and death of children."

<snipped>

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/family+demise/5077695/story.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 09:27:33 PM
Monkeys, I need help if you would be so kind.  On another forum I visit (not crime - more music related) someone posted this:

The jury did their job. There simply wasn't enough evidence to place it "beyond a reasonable doubt." She's obviously a terrible mother, but there needed to be more to prove murder.

I want to respond, but not only am I angry to the point of seizure, but when I try to think of the best way to state what I feel, my head is a tornado of thoughts.  I can't pull it together to come up with a concise argument.  I really like that analogy from NG in which she said that if you were to go outside and see puddles and people walking with umbrellas, it would be obvious that it had rained and there'd be no reason to ask for proof of rain.  (Or something like that).

Again, my head is spinning; I can't corral my thoughts!  Is there a post here or an article that really sums things up?  This is embarrassing, my having a brain-fart like this.  I've read so many opinions about the jury that I agree with, but I can't organize them.  I feel so lame.
  Don't feel lame.  This whole thing is just too much to wrap one's brain around.   HUGS!


MOTIVE: Casey is the only one who could profit from Caylee's death. She wanted Caylee out of the way. Caylee inconvenienced her. Casey also wanted to punish her domineering mother. Caylee is the only thing in Casey's life, over which she had complete control.

OPPORTUNITY:  Geroge was at work, Cindy was at work, Lee was at work. Casey is the only person to have access to the house, computer, duct tape, her car, cloroform, laundry bags and everything else associated with the murder.

CAUSE OF DEATH: Duct tape. And only a demented mother would add a heart shaped sticker.

MANNER OF DEATH: Suffocation.

Tidy package, tied up with a bow. The prosecution presented the jury with a "gift" and the they thew it back unopened. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Exactly. It's like somebody working really hard to be able to purchase something special for a Christmas present, but the recipient didn't appreciate it or couldn't use it so they regifted it.
 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Aurelia7 on July 09, 2011, 09:31:15 PM
 ::snipping2::
MOTIVE: Casey is the only one who could profit from Caylee's death. She wanted Caylee out of the way. Caylee inconvenienced her. Casey also wanted to punish her domineering mother. Caylee is the only thing in Casey's life, over which she had complete control.

OPPORTUNITY:  Geroge was at work, Cindy was at work, Lee was at work. Casey is the only person to have access to the house, computer, duct tape, her car, cloroform, laundry bags and everything else associated with the murder.

CAUSE OF DEATH: Duct tape. And only a demented mother would add a heart shaped sticker.

MANNER OF DEATH: Suffocation.

This is very helpful, thank you.  But, I was under the impression that "cause of death" was undeterminable due to the state that the body was found in.  And that even the Prosecution could not state with 100% certainty what the cause of death was.  (Even though it's obvious what it was.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: yuknomenot on July 09, 2011, 09:41:06 PM
Regarding the slore profiting from Caylee's murder, Florida's laws won't matter.  She could leave the state or have a "legal" address in another state.  Or perhaps have the money paid to her idiot lawyer and become his highest paid "employee".   No doubt there are many less than above board ways to funnel her the money.  All IMO of course.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Over 150 Sign Petition Against Jose Baez

Posted: 11:44 pm EDT July 8, 2011
Updated: 11:23 am EDT July 9, 2011
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There is no doubt that the Casey Anthony murder trial was contentious. Even Chief Judge Belvin Perry gave his opinion about the trial and the lawyers.

“There has been gamesmanship in the case, and it’s quite evident there is a friction between attorneys,” Judge Perry said.

Judge Perry showed his frustration several times throughout the trial. He indicated Baez repeatedly tried to question expert witnesses about things that weren’t in their depositions or reports. At one point, Baez was even threatened with contempt.

“I will reserve the decision to proceed with contempt proceedings at the conclusion of this trial,” Judge Perry warned.
 ::snipping2::



http://www.wftv.com/news/28494098/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2011, 09:46:52 PM
Jeff Ashton on with Judge Jeanine on Fox.. She had Clint House on too..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 09:54:14 PM
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I am still madder than a hornet that had his nest knocked down. It's not leaving!

I sure hope others feel like this.

Stupidest family that ever lived.

Stupidest jury ever to vote.


It just makes me want to whip off my shoe and smack it against a wall!!!!! I don't think a cooling down period is going to help much.

I agree Carpe, but aim that shoe at Casey, will 'ya?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 09:55:31 PM
Jeff Ashton on with Judge Jeanine on Fox.. She had Clint House on too..

He looks and sounds really good there. I think they should offer him a job.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 09:56:59 PM

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
CBB - Sure thing. ...and I have two... so I will consider hitting this bitch in the mouth with the other one, until it looks like this:

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/cindy-anthony-mouth.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 09, 2011, 10:00:27 PM
I found this also.  This was asked prior to being found not guilty (which doesn't mean innocent) anyhow, does this mean she cannot mention the lies or cannot profit at all?

Looking to the future, is there any way to keep the entire family from profiting off of books, movies, interviews, etc.? -- Lois, Dunnellon


Florida law prohibits a person convicted of a crime from profiting from the case. Any money or royalties received by the convicted criminal must be paid to the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund. Anyone else can profit without government interference. I plan on playing myself in the movie. -- Judge O.H. Eaton

Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28441900/detail.html#ixzz1RebwP4nU

self edit

This is very important.  It means that if Casey tried to profit from this case in the form of interviews or books about the case or a Lifetime movie deal she could not.

However I am sure Mason and Baez will make it a caveat that she is not allowed to talk about the case.  Her life before..her life after..but not the case itself.  There are loopholes and they will find them.  Also they may try to set up a dummy corp that would funnel the profits through it to her. 

This maybe the reason that Jerry Springer backed out..what would he talk about with the A's and Casey ..they are only famous because of this case. 

I hope the State gets Cindy for perjury then she couldn't talk about the case either. 

There is no reason she cannot profit off it ...........a clueless jury said "not guilty" so this does not apply to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 10:01:01 PM
Carpe.........  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh, it's "magical thinking" to hope that mouth will remain shut for long.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: sunshine12 on July 09, 2011, 10:01:59 PM
that juror number 3 is a cocky, pompous idiot.  i just saw her interview and i wanted to scream, who the hell does this twit think she is?  and she wants to be a nurse?!?!! yea ok, being a nurse means you are a mandated reporter you a$$hat, and clearly you don't know the first thing about what constitutes child abuse or neglect.  if i was ever a patient of this juror #3 i would refuse to let her near me and demand to switch hospitals or whatever.  i think she's gonna have real problems finding a job and i'm not even just saying that.  people aren't going to just forget her, especially since she is plastering herself all over the news.  my only hope is that she is forced to smell the smell of death sometime soon in her nursing studies and realizes what a mistake she made. she is disgusting!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Aurelia7 on July 09, 2011, 10:04:35 PM
Monkeys, I need help if you would be so kind.  On another forum I visit (not crime - more music related) someone posted this:

The jury did their job. There simply wasn't enough evidence to place it "beyond a reasonable doubt." She's obviously a terrible mother, but there needed to be more to prove murder.

I want to respond, but not only am I angry to the point of seizure, but when I try to think of the best way to state what I feel, my head is a tornado of thoughts.  I can't pull it together to come up with a concise argument.  I really like that analogy from NG in which she said that if you were to go outside and see puddles and people walking with umbrellas, it would be obvious that it had rained and there'd be no reason to ask for proof of rain.  (Or something like that).

Again, my head is spinning; I can't corral my thoughts!  Is there a post here or an article that really sums things up?  This is embarrassing, my having a brain-fart like this.  I've read so many opinions about the jury that I agree with, but I can't organize them.  I feel so lame.
  Don't feel lame.  This whole thing is just too much to wrap one's brain around.   HUGS!

I wouldn't bother responding.  This has become comparable to politics & religion.  You will NEVER convince these people that they are wrong.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I thought about not responding, but I must because Caylee needs justice and it's important to spread the truth.

And you're right about not being able to change people's minds for the most part, but sometimes you can.  Last night I spoke with someone who was happy for Casey's acquittal because he felt sorry for her.  He said that she's messed up because George molested her and he's a bad father because had an affair with the Cruz woman.  He went on to say he relates to Casey because they both had messed up parents, etc.  He said that he'd also been molested and that now his parents won't talk to him and he's not going to inherit.  He said Casey has no family, no money and that now, she'll be free and be able to make millions.  (Can you believe this guy?)

So I explained to him that it was VERY doubtful that George molested Casey or had an affair with that tranny and explained that EVEN IF he did, that's no reason for Casey to kill.  Then I explained the circumstantial evidence in detail.  I"m happy to say that in the end he was convinced that George did not commit molestation/adultry and when I asked him (in regards to all the evidence) whether or not he thought Casey killed her daughter, he finally had to admit that he was now thinking she did.  So that's one mind changed!  I'm finding that the people who are pro-Casey are simply unaware of ALL the facts and just need a good talking-to.  And a smack upside the head!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 09, 2011, 10:05:36 PM
Over 150 Sign Petition Against Jose Baez

Posted: 11:44 pm EDT July 8, 2011
Updated: 11:23 am EDT July 9, 2011
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There is no doubt that the Casey Anthony murder trial was contentious. Even Chief Judge Belvin Perry gave his opinion about the trial and the lawyers.

“There has been gamesmanship in the case, and it’s quite evident there is a friction between attorneys,” Judge Perry said.

Judge Perry showed his frustration several times throughout the trial. He indicated Baez repeatedly tried to question expert witnesses about things that weren’t in their depositions or reports. At one point, Baez was even threatened with contempt.

“I will reserve the decision to proceed with contempt proceedings at the conclusion of this trial,” Judge Perry warned.
 ::snipping2::



http://www.wftv.com/news/28494098/detail.html

There was friction between the attorneys because JP let bozo do unethical and possibly illegal thing to get his client off..........the prosecution was frustrated because they saw an attorney who was breaking every court rule and JP would not only do nothing but would coach him in how to do it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: 4getUnot on July 09, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
Hey Everyone!  ::MonkeyKiss::
I found this in my legal question & answer book. Why would this not apply to this case or would it?



Question:
Can a person be put on trial for the same crime in both federal and state courts?

Answer:
Yes. If a person is accused of something that is a crime under both state and federal law, he can be tried in both a state and a federal court. The state and federal governments are seperate entities, and a conviction or acquittal in one court does not prevent a subsequent prosecution in th other. The same holds true for the punishment imposed. However, the sentence in one court might be taken into consideration in fixing the punishment in the other court-----for example, one sentence might be suspended. Being prosecuted for violating the laws of two different governments (federal and state) does not result in double jeopardy(being tried twice for the same crime), which is forbidden by the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The prohibition of double jeopardy is aimed solely at preventing prosecutors from bringing someone to trial again in the same court system for the same offense.

Hi Monken!  Glad you found this.  I was wondering about the fact that Casey insisted on calling in the FBI.  Remember she didn't want to talk to any of the locals but she said she would talk to the FBI..  Wonder what bearing that would have on this case since she insisted on their involvement because of her lie that whoever had Caylee would harm her family or some such nonsense ( we know now) but at the time they had to take her seriously.  She didn't just waste Florida resources she insisted on wasting the resources of the FBI.

She should not be allowed to go scott free of all the damage she has done.  IMO




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 10:06:08 PM
Okay..I found the article where it states the alternate who was talking to the press was a government and economics teacher in P County.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2011/jul/06/14/anthony-alternate-juror-she-did-not-get-away-with--ar-242105/

snip ::snipping2::

Anthony alternate juror: 'She did not get away with murder'

"I think she drowned," Huekler said Tuesday night at his home. "Whatever happened, I think more than one person knows, and I think that was possibly George. But for some reason, the prosecution was right: They made an accident look like a murder scene."

Huekler, a government and economics teacher at Pinellas Park High School, said he thought the Anthony family was dysfunctional, a contention of the defense. Huekler said that explained lies Anthony told authorities searching for Caylee.

snip ::snipping2::

So this government high school teacher, who was an alternate, thinks that that the prosecution was right..when Jeff sarcastically said.. they made an accident look like murder..ah yeah right. ..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 10:07:13 PM
that juror number 3 is a cocky, pompous idiot.  i just saw her interview and i wanted to scream, who the hell does this twit think she is?  and she wants to be a nurse?!?!! yea ok, being a nurse means you are a mandated reporter you a$$hat, and clearly you don't know the first thing about what constitutes child abuse or neglect.  if i was ever a patient of this juror #3 i would refuse to let her near me and demand to switch hospitals or whatever.  i think she's gonna have real problems finding a job and i'm not even just saying that.  people aren't going to just forget her, especially since she is plastering herself all over the news.  my only hope is that she is forced to smell the smell of death sometime soon in her nursing studies and realizes what a mistake she made. she is disgusting!

I had the same thoughts about her as a nurse. My God, she'd be putting a bandaid on a scraped knee while the patient was going in cardiac arrest. BUT, she would be quick to say that the knee was producing blood while the patient grabbing his chest and turning blue didn't "necessarily" mean he was having a heart attack. There was no proof of it.

Geeezz......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cookie on July 09, 2011, 10:08:14 PM
I am so mad and upset still! I can not shake it..
I am really unhappy that Casey will be able to make money off of killing her daughter..I hope that everyone in America will not buy her books, watch movies or listen to anything that she may have to say. we need to shun her like OJ and others..we need to not give Casey any attention that she craves. I can not stand the thought that she will have a happy rich life!

Geraldo is talking to Jose and Mason...all 3 of them make me want to barf..

something happened with this jury. I keep hoping that Judge Perry is looking into some other issues and will turn things around..I don't know what it would be..I know that it is false hope, but like others, I keep thinking that something will happen to give Caylee justice..




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
that juror number 3 is a cocky, pompous idiot.  i just saw her interview and i wanted to scream, who the hell does this twit think she is?  and she wants to be a nurse?!?!! yea ok, being a nurse means you are a mandated reporter you a$$hat, and clearly you don't know the first thing about what constitutes child abuse or neglect.  if i was ever a patient of this juror #3 i would refuse to let her near me and demand to switch hospitals or whatever.  i think she's gonna have real problems finding a job and i'm not even just saying that.  people aren't going to just forget her, especially since she is plastering herself all over the news.  my only hope is that she is forced to smell the smell of death sometime soon in her nursing studies and realizes what a mistake she made. she is disgusting!

...and I don't mean to be small, but I will be anyway... She has a nose like Jimmy Durante and hair by Darth Vader.

Glamour Shots ain't gonna help little "Jenny". She needs a burlap sack.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 10:13:23 PM
heres an interesting read for some who would like to read this

Double jeopardy – momentarily revisiting Casey Anthony
http://www.kennethballard.com/?p=298

I found this part very interesting.
So let me summarize with an extreme example of how double jeopardy works: Casey Anthony could confess on national television that she actually killed her daughter, even providing all the nasty details that could not be uncovered with forensic evidence, and she is completely immune from prosecution unless evidence emerges that she conspired with another to kill her daughter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 10:15:13 PM
heres an interesting read for some who would like to read this

Double jeopardy – momentarily revisiting Casey Anthony
http://www.kennethballard.com/?p=298

I found this part very interesting.
So let me summarize with an extreme example of how double jeopardy works: Casey Anthony could confess on national television that she actually killed her daughter, even providing all the nasty details that could not be uncovered with forensic evidence, and she is completely immune from prosecution unless evidence emerges that she conspired with another to kill her daughter.

I always wondered if Tony didn't help her since he didn't want daughters,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 10:16:20 PM
that juror number 3 is a cocky, pompous idiot.  i just saw her interview and i wanted to scream, who the hell does this twit think she is?  and she wants to be a nurse?!?!! yea ok, being a nurse means you are a mandated reporter you a$$hat, and clearly you don't know the first thing about what constitutes child abuse or neglect.  if i was ever a patient of this juror #3 i would refuse to let her near me and demand to switch hospitals or whatever.  i think she's gonna have real problems finding a job and i'm not even just saying that.  people aren't going to just forget her, especially since she is plastering herself all over the news.  my only hope is that she is forced to smell the smell of death sometime soon in her nursing studies and realizes what a mistake she made. she is disgusting!

...and I don't mean to be small, but I will be anyway... She has a nose like Jimmy Durante and hair by Darth Vader.

Glamour Shots ain't gonna help little "Jenny". She needs a burlap sack.

No, no, no......... heck no, Carpe. Get your StarWars figures straight. You meant to say Chewbacca hair.  :smt040

Juror #3 wanted to be on the jury. She was anxious to do it, and anxious to speak out after the verdict. She needs a life, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:17:09 PM
Okay..I found the article where it states the alternate who was talking to the press was a government and economics teacher in P County.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2011/jul/06/14/anthony-alternate-juror-she-did-not-get-away-with--ar-242105/

snip ::snipping2::

Anthony alternate juror: 'She did not get away with murder'

"I think she drowned," Huekler said Tuesday night at his home. "Whatever happened, I think more than one person knows, and I think that was possibly George. But for some reason, the prosecution was right: They made an accident look like a murder scene."

Huekler, a government and economics teacher at Pinellas Park High School, said he thought the Anthony family was dysfunctional, a contention of the defense. Huekler said that explained lies Anthony told authorities searching for Caylee.

snip ::snipping2::

So this government high school teacher, who was an alternate, thinks that that the prosecution was right..when Jeff sarcastically said.. they made an accident look like murder..ah yeah right. ..



Were there 2 teachers picked out of the 17? It was also reported there was a teacher that taught health & gym.

Also, the one you referenced above...what a shame! He teaches govt but the fool acquitted Casey of the top 3 charges! How does he explain this to the faculty & students that can't possibly agree with him?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 10:18:30 PM
Okay..I found the article where it states the alternate who was talking to the press was a government and economics teacher in P County.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2011/jul/06/14/anthony-alternate-juror-she-did-not-get-away-with--ar-242105/

snip ::snipping2::

Anthony alternate juror: 'She did not get away with murder'

"I think she drowned," Huekler said Tuesday night at his home. "Whatever happened, I think more than one person knows, and I think that was possibly George. But for some reason, the prosecution was right: They made an accident look like a murder scene."

Huekler, a government and economics teacher at Pinellas Park High School, said he thought the Anthony family was dysfunctional, a contention of the defense. Huekler said that explained lies Anthony told authorities searching for Caylee.

snip ::snipping2::

So this government high school teacher, who was an alternate, thinks that that the prosecution was right..when Jeff sarcastically said.. they made an accident look like murder..ah yeah right. ..



This is the third alternate who has come forward and mirrored Baez's opening and closing statements.  Think about it.  These alternates did not deliberated yet they are one with the 12 jurors who did.

What are the chances of randomly selected twelve jurors and alternates whose postions are ALL contrary to the court of public opinion.

Something is not right.  At some time outside of the courtroom setting ... somebody instructed/influence/persuaded this group to disregard the prosecution's case.  IMO

Janet   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:19:16 PM
that juror number 3 is a cocky, pompous idiot.  i just saw her interview and i wanted to scream, who the hell does this twit think she is?  and she wants to be a nurse?!?!! yea ok, being a nurse means you are a mandated reporter you a$$hat, and clearly you don't know the first thing about what constitutes child abuse or neglect.  if i was ever a patient of this juror #3 i would refuse to let her near me and demand to switch hospitals or whatever.  i think she's gonna have real problems finding a job and i'm not even just saying that.  people aren't going to just forget her, especially since she is plastering herself all over the news.  my only hope is that she is forced to smell the smell of death sometime soon in her nursing studies and realizes what a mistake she made. she is disgusting!

I had the same thoughts about her as a nurse. My God, she'd be putting a bandaid on a scraped knee while the patient was going in cardiac arrest. BUT, she would be quick to say that the knee was producing blood while the patient grabbing his chest and turning blue didn't "necessarily" mean he was having a heart attack. There was no proof of it.

Geeezz......

Wow! Perfect analogy! I agree with both of you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:20:53 PM
that juror number 3 is a cocky, pompous idiot.  i just saw her interview and i wanted to scream, who the hell does this twit think she is?  and she wants to be a nurse?!?!! yea ok, being a nurse means you are a mandated reporter you a$$hat, and clearly you don't know the first thing about what constitutes child abuse or neglect.  if i was ever a patient of this juror #3 i would refuse to let her near me and demand to switch hospitals or whatever.  i think she's gonna have real problems finding a job and i'm not even just saying that.  people aren't going to just forget her, especially since she is plastering herself all over the news.  my only hope is that she is forced to smell the smell of death sometime soon in her nursing studies and realizes what a mistake she made. she is disgusting!

...and I don't mean to be small, but I will be anyway... She has a nose like Jimmy Durante and hair by Darth Vader.

Glamour Shots ain't gonna help little "Jenny". She needs a burlap sack.

Silence of the Lambs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 10:21:02 PM
Okay..I found the article where it states the alternate who was talking to the press was a government and economics teacher in P County.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2011/jul/06/14/anthony-alternate-juror-she-did-not-get-away-with--ar-242105/

snip ::snipping2::

Anthony alternate juror: 'She did not get away with murder'

"I think she drowned," Huekler said Tuesday night at his home. "Whatever happened, I think more than one person knows, and I think that was possibly George. But for some reason, the prosecution was right: They made an accident look like a murder scene."

Huekler, a government and economics teacher at Pinellas Park High School, said he thought the Anthony family was dysfunctional, a contention of the defense. Huekler said that explained lies Anthony told authorities searching for Caylee.

snip ::snipping2::

So this government high school teacher, who was an alternate, thinks that that the prosecution was right..when Jeff sarcastically said.. they made an accident look like murder..ah yeah right. ..



Were there 2 teachers picked out of the 17? It was also reported there was a teacher that taught health & gym.

Also, the one you referenced above...what a shame! He teaches govt but the fool acquitted Casey of the top 3 charges! How does he explain this to the faculty & students that can't possibly agree with him?

If my child went to that school had that teacher you better believe I would be there demanding my child to be replaced in another class or that my chiold drop that class totally


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:23:48 PM
Found this on Humble Opinion... Thank you TickTock...  Link?

Quote:
TickTock
8 July 2011 at 12:20
If I was crazey lawyers sobering up, now in day 3 of the injustice I’d consider the fate of OJ’s key dream team lawyers- all happened within a few years of trial
Cochran, Kardashian dead
Shapiro’s son OD’d
Bailey disbarred for embezzling client funds

lightening strike yesterday at Caylees remains site is the sign… karma is coming boys
oh and Crazey & Spamthony’s take note of what OJ did with his life and it’s outcome.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 10:26:55 PM
that juror number 3 is a cocky, pompous idiot.  i just saw her interview and i wanted to scream, who the hell does this twit think she is?  and she wants to be a nurse?!?!! yea ok, being a nurse means you are a mandated reporter you a$$hat, and clearly you don't know the first thing about what constitutes child abuse or neglect.  if i was ever a patient of this juror #3 i would refuse to let her near me and demand to switch hospitals or whatever.  i think she's gonna have real problems finding a job and i'm not even just saying that.  people aren't going to just forget her, especially since she is plastering herself all over the news.  my only hope is that she is forced to smell the smell of death sometime soon in her nursing studies and realizes what a mistake she made. she is disgusting!

I had the same thoughts about her as a nurse. My God, she'd be putting a bandaid on a scraped knee while the patient was going in cardiac arrest. BUT, she would be quick to say that the knee was producing blood while the patient grabbing his chest and turning blue didn't "necessarily" mean he was having a heart attack. There was no proof of it.

Geeezz......

Wow! Perfect analogy! I agree with both of you!

Thanks Titch. Above all, that's the point that bothers me most. There was no reasoning applied during deliberations. They followed Baez's instructions and no one elses. There was JP's instruction to not count Crystal's testimony as evidence of how Caylee died............ yet you hear it from all if them: "An accident that snowballed out of control."

They applied no critical or even casual thinking to the evidence. They did exactly what Baez asked them to do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on July 09, 2011, 10:27:14 PM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 10:29:48 PM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 



Hiya, Bud's!! I don't remember it, but I, for one, would like to see it!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: klaasend on July 09, 2011, 10:34:31 PM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 



I don't remember it either  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on July 09, 2011, 10:35:42 PM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 



Hiya, Bud's!! I don't remember it, but I, for one, would like to see it!! 


(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/GeraldoDance.gif)


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 10:38:18 PM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 



Hiya, Bud's!! I don't remember it, but I, for one, would like to see it!! 


(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/GeraldoDance.gif)


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

OMG!! We need it now!!!   ::boxinggeraldo2::

Klaas? Can we have that on the menu? Thanks for saving and posting it, Bud's!!  ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:38:33 PM
Hmmm... I'll look for the Nancy Grace show from the other night but this is from Humble Opinion. Wonder if those jurors saw that show & how it made them feel to acquit...

http://humbleopinionforum.net/2011/07/08/flipper-cheney-mason-says-we-will-never-know-how-caylee-died/

Quote:
Last night on Nancy Grace, Jean said that Flipper Cheney Mason stated we will never know how Caylee died, and yes he did say that!

Well wasn’t it during the trial the defense said that George found Caylee in the pool?  Casey came around the corner and grabbed Caylee from him and wailed?  Then George yells “Look what you’ve done! Your mother will never forgive you………….”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2011, 10:42:06 PM
Hmmm... I'll look for the Nancy Grace show from the other night but this is from Humble Opinion. Wonder if those jurors saw that show & how it made them feel to acquit...

http://humbleopinionforum.net/2011/07/08/flipper-cheney-mason-says-we-will-never-know-how-caylee-died/

Quote:
Last night on Nancy Grace, Jean said that Flipper Cheney Mason stated we will never know how Caylee died, and yes he did say that!

Well wasn’t it during the trial the defense said that George found Caylee in the pool?  Casey came around the corner and grabbed Caylee from him and wailed?  Then George yells “Look what you’ve done! Your mother will never forgive you………….”

That's the thing about lies.......... they're harder to keep straight than the truth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 10:43:08 PM
Okay..I found the article where it states the alternate who was talking to the press was a government and economics teacher in P County.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2011/jul/06/14/anthony-alternate-juror-she-did-not-get-away-with--ar-242105/

snip ::snipping2::

Anthony alternate juror: 'She did not get away with murder'

"I think she drowned," Huekler said Tuesday night at his home. "Whatever happened, I think more than one person knows, and I think that was possibly George. But for some reason, the prosecution was right: They made an accident look like a murder scene."

Huekler, a government and economics teacher at Pinellas Park High School, said he thought the Anthony family was dysfunctional, a contention of the defense. Huekler said that explained lies Anthony told authorities searching for Caylee.

snip ::snipping2::

So this government high school teacher, who was an alternate, thinks that that the prosecution was right..when Jeff sarcastically said.. they made an accident look like murder..ah yeah right. ..



Were there 2 teachers picked out of the 17? It was also reported there was a teacher that taught health & gym.

Also, the one you referenced above...what a shame! He teaches govt but the fool acquitted Casey of the top 3 charges! How does he explain this to the faculty & students that can't possibly agree with him?

Titch..listen to the interview attached to the article..at around 2:30 in is where the interviewer adds in that he told him he is going to add the experience from being a juror on this case to his lesson plans..

This guy is on a real power trip from this..too bad he is making such a fool of himself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 10:43:15 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Hmmm... I'll look for the Nancy Grace show from the other night but this is from Humble Opinion. Wonder if those jurors saw that show & how it made them feel to acquit...

http://humbleopinionforum.net/2011/07/08/flipper-cheney-mason-says-we-will-never-know-how-caylee-died/

Quote:
Last night on Nancy Grace, Jean said that Flipper Cheney Mason stated we will never know how Caylee died, and yes he did say that!

Well wasn’t it during the trial the defense said that George found Caylee in the pool?  Casey came around the corner and grabbed Caylee from him and wailed?  Then George yells “Look what you’ve done! Your mother will never forgive you………….”

That's the thing about lies.......... they're harder to keep straight than the truth.
except for Casey...Wonder how she keeps them straight?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: shutterblog on July 09, 2011, 10:46:13 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/os-casey-anthony-jurors-lifestyle-20110709,0,3287224.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/os-casey-anthony-jurors-lifestyle-20110709,0,3287224.story)

Casey Anthony jurors: What life was like for 17 sequestered in murder trial
Jurors had limited access to TV, Internet during the trial, court spokeswoman says.

 ::snipping2::

Each juror had a separate room at the hotel, Levey said, and access to a shared common room they called the "parlor room." They typically ate two of their three daily meals at the hotel.

The jurors lived under the watchful eye of Orange County deputies, who monitored them and transported them everywhere they went. They watched them as jurors made calls, used the Web and met with family.

 ::snipping2::

Levey said the jurors were allowed to have cell phones, but they were kept in the custody of deputies, who monitored phone calls as well as the limited internet access jurors were allowed.

But jurors weren't exactly allowed to surf the Web, or to use the internet for entertainment, Levey said.

 ::snipping2::

As closely as they were watched, Levey said the court ultimately had to trust the jurors to follow the frequent admonitions they were given by Judge Belvin Perry each day.

"There's a certain amount of trust with any jury," Levey said. "You have to trust these people."

 ::snipping2::

Have to trust them?  No really, I don't.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 10:46:41 PM
This is the third alternate who has come forward and mirrored Baez's opening and closing statements.  Think about it.  These alternates did not deliberated yet they are one with the 12 jurors who did.

What are the chances of randomly selected twelve jurors and alternates whose postions are ALL contrary to the court of public opinion.

Something is not right.  At some time outside of the courtroom setting ... somebody instructed/influence/persuaded this group to disregard the prosecution's case.  IMO

Janet   

Janet something is definitely not right here..a teacher who is a mandated reporter did not think this looked like even aggravated negligence or agaravated child abuse when all the evidence leads back to the mother.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Lily Valley on July 09, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
This is maddening...I can't believe what I'm hearing from juror #3, the alternates, Geraldo Rivera, Mason, Bozo.  I hear a bunch of nonsense and garbage about no child abuse, she was a good mother, blah, blah, blah.  Are they even listening what is coming out of their mouths ?   It defies logic and common sense no matter how you look at it or try to spin it. Casey Anthony was the ONLY person who had motive, opportunity, and ( the other word escapes me right now, I am so angry).  They must think we are all stupid.  They should all just STFU because no sane person believes them.  I feel like I'm in the twilight zone and it keeps getting worse as they continue to spew this nonsense.  I had to turn off the tv... not going to listen.   Sorry for the rant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 09, 2011, 10:52:58 PM
heres an interesting read for some who would like to read this

Double jeopardy – momentarily revisiting Casey Anthony
http://www.kennethballard.com/?p=298

I found this part very interesting.
So let me summarize with an extreme example of how double jeopardy works: Casey Anthony could confess on national television that she actually killed her daughter, even providing all the nasty details that could not be uncovered with forensic evidence, and she is completely immune from prosecution unless evidence emerges that she conspired with another to kill her daughter.
Wow now THAT would be interesting.   Does this also pertain to the lesser charges or just Murder 1?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: KCJackie on July 09, 2011, 10:53:27 PM
Jose Beaz Needs To Be Held Accountable For His Actions

http://www.change.org/petitions/jose-beaz-needs-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-actions

Bumping  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Babybear on July 09, 2011, 10:53:35 PM
Over 150 Sign Petition Against Jose Baez

Posted: 11:44 pm EDT July 8, 2011
Updated: 11:23 am EDT July 9, 2011
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There is no doubt that the Casey Anthony murder trial was contentious. Even Chief Judge Belvin Perry gave his opinion about the trial and the lawyers.

“There has been gamesmanship in the case, and it’s quite evident there is a friction between attorneys,” Judge Perry said.

Judge Perry showed his frustration several times throughout the trial. He indicated Baez repeatedly tried to question expert witnesses about things that weren’t in their depositions or reports. At one point, Baez was even threatened with contempt.

“I will reserve the decision to proceed with contempt proceedings at the conclusion of this trial,” Judge Perry warned.
 ::snipping2::



http://www.wftv.com/news/28494098/detail.html

There was friction between the attorneys because JP let bozo do unethical and possibly illegal thing to get his client off..........the prosecution was frustrated because they saw an attorney who was breaking every court rule and JP would not only do nothing but would coach him in how to do it.

Turbo, I absolutely agree with you on this.  I do not think Judge Perry is such a great guy or a good judge.  He allowed Baez to run his court and the result was that the jury got the impression, rightly or wrongly, that he favored the defense. They were dependent on the judge for six weeks for their lodging, food, entertainment, etc. as if he were doing them a favor or paying out of his own pocket, so they wanted to please him.  Hell, he even had control over when they could smoke and they were grateful.  They did what they thought Judge Perry wanted them to do. Stockholm syndrome.

Twelve dumbest people on the planet, with a few alternate dummies.

One of the things Judge Perry did which I thought was so unfair was to chastise both the prosecution and the defense when it was the defense, namely Baez, who needed a dressing down.  Also, I grew weary of his always threatening to do things which he never followed up on.  Now that the trial is over, I want to see him carry out his threat to deal with Baez.  Of course, he won't.  It will be forgotten just like the rest of his threats.  I am thoroughly disgusted with the entire proceeding.  It's a disgrace.

So he was frustrated?  Well, so am I.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: IBE on July 09, 2011, 10:56:52 PM
Thanks Yoder & Titch, my husband just asked if murder is a federal crime? i so wish she could charged through a federal court!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
'

When a neighbor threatened to have a friend of his "take me out" this Spring, I was told under the Terrorist law I could file charges. Terrorist law is Federal so I am confused but it should apply to Casey. The city police talked me out of it said not to go near this neighbor or him near me (so work in my back yard had to be done when he was gone for we are only 4 feet apart kitty=corner)

PS This friend of his is a nut case and threatened to kill me (I didn't even know he lived in the complex 3 doors away) Aug. 7, 2005. I was the third one he had done it to and one after me. The management refused to kick him out and said that when I bought here there was good and bad. I told management in a 7 page letter that threatening to kill someone was way beyond "bad" and of me suing. The one threatened after me was asked by our city police if she wanted him to go to jail. They didn't ask me that; they asked me whether I had guns. Go figure. I always have to look over my shoulder here and am sorry my dog just died.

Bottom line... would Casey come under the Terrrorist law in some way?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 10:59:16 PM
heres an interesting read for some who would like to read this

Double jeopardy – momentarily revisiting Casey Anthony
http://www.kennethballard.com/?p=298

I found this part very interesting.
So let me summarize with an extreme example of how double jeopardy works: Casey Anthony could confess on national television that she actually killed her daughter, even providing all the nasty details that could not be uncovered with forensic evidence, and she is completely immune from prosecution unless evidence emerges that she conspired with another to kill her daughter.
Wow now THAT would be interesting.   Does this also pertain to the lesser charges or just Murder 1?
I think it goes for all the accounts not just murder 1, I dont know just been reading so much trying to find a loop hole that would get that b__tch back into court and be charged


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 10:59:35 PM
Okay..I found the article where it states the alternate who was talking to the press was a government and economics teacher in P County.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2011/jul/06/14/anthony-alternate-juror-she-did-not-get-away-with--ar-242105/

snip ::snipping2::

Anthony alternate juror: 'She did not get away with murder'

"I think she drowned," Huekler said Tuesday night at his home. "Whatever happened, I think more than one person knows, and I think that was possibly George. But for some reason, the prosecution was right: They made an accident look like a murder scene."

Huekler, a government and economics teacher at Pinellas Park High School, said he thought the Anthony family was dysfunctional, a contention of the defense. Huekler said that explained lies Anthony told authorities searching for Caylee.

snip ::snipping2::

So this government high school teacher, who was an alternate, thinks that that the prosecution was right..when Jeff sarcastically said.. they made an accident look like murder..ah yeah right. ..



Were there 2 teachers picked out of the 17? It was also reported there was a teacher that taught health & gym.

Also, the one you referenced above...what a shame! He teaches govt but the fool acquitted Casey of the top 3 charges! How does he explain this to the faculty & students that can't possibly agree with him?

Titch..listen to the interview attached to the article..at around 2:30 in is where the interviewer adds in that he told him he is going to add the experience from being a juror on this case to his lesson plans..

This guy is on a real power trip from this..too bad he is making such a fool of himself.


Omg he really is! Complaints should be sent to that school district administrator. Is it even ethical for him to add it to his plans? I find that hard to swallow. They're not even allowed to teach about abortion in Health class, so how can they teach about letting a person go free without even the most basic abuse charge? This idiot should be ashamed of himself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Babybear on July 09, 2011, 10:59:40 PM
I'm also pretty tired of being instructed by the talking heads that I must "Calm down." I'll calm down if and when I feel like it.  Unlike a sheep, I don't have to do what they say. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on July 09, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Jose Beaz Needs To Be Held Accountable For His Actions

http://www.change.org/petitions/jose-beaz-needs-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-actions

Bumping  ::MonkeyBike::

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: klaasend on July 09, 2011, 11:00:12 PM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 



Hiya, Bud's!! I don't remember it, but I, for one, would like to see it!! 


(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/GeraldoDance.gif)


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

OMG I hate it when I make stuff then forget.  I'll add it now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 11:00:49 PM
This is maddening...I can't believe what I'm hearing from juror #3, the alternates, Geraldo Rivera, Mason, Bozo.  I hear a bunch of nonsense and garbage about no child abuse, she was a good mother, blah, blah, blah.  Are they even listening what is coming out of their mouths ?   It defies logic and common sense no matter how you look at it or try to spin it. Casey Anthony was the ONLY person who had motive, opportunity, and ( the other word escapes me right now, I am so angry).  They must think we are all stupid.  They should all just STFU because no sane person believes them.  I feel like I'm in the twilight zone and it keeps getting worse as they continue to spew this nonsense.  I had to turn off the tv... not going to listen.   Sorry for the rant.
I know how you feel I get sick on my stomach each time I hear their voices


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Kermit on July 09, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
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I am still madder than a hornet that had his nest knocked down. It's not leaving!

I sure hope others feel like this.

Stupidest family that ever lived.

Stupidest jury ever to vote.


It just makes me want to whip off my shoe and smack it against a wall!!!!! I don't think a cooling down period is going to help much.

I feel the same way carpe.
Just hearing little Caylee's voice singing in that video - upsets me.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 09, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/os-casey-anthony-jurors-lifestyle-20110709,0,3287224.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/os-casey-anthony-jurors-lifestyle-20110709,0,3287224.story)

Casey Anthony jurors: What life was like for 17 sequestered in murder trial
Jurors had limited access to TV, Internet during the trial, court spokeswoman says.

 ::snipping2::

Each juror had a separate room at the hotel, Levey said, and access to a shared common room they called the "parlor room." They typically ate two of their three daily meals at the hotel.

The jurors lived under the watchful eye of Orange County deputies, who monitored them and transported them everywhere they went. They watched them as jurors made calls, used the Web and met with family.

 ::snipping2::

Levey said the jurors were allowed to have cell phones, but they were kept in the custody of deputies, who monitored phone calls as well as the limited internet access jurors were allowed.

But jurors weren't exactly allowed to surf the Web, or to use the internet for entertainment, Levey said.

 ::snipping2::

As closely as they were watched, Levey said the court ultimately had to trust the jurors to follow the frequent admonitions they were given by Judge Belvin Perry each day.

"There's a certain amount of trust with any jury," Levey said. "You have to trust these people."

 ::snipping2::

Have to trust them?  No really, I don't.....

WTH were they allowed to USE THE WEB at all? There is your answer - The defense KNEW the verdict was going to be because these jurors were sent web links to read I am betting money. If this isn't jury tampering I don't know what is and what brilliant idiot allowed jurors to use the web. I have never heard of that in my life. These jurors might as well have stayed at home and saved the taxpayers a million dollars.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2011, 11:04:05 PM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 


I turned the channel as soon as Jeanine Pirro said goodnight...she got choked up and was holding back tears, for Caylee.. I knew the 3 stooges were next and didnt want to spoil my night


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: west941 on July 09, 2011, 11:04:34 PM
Found this on Humble Opinion... Thank you TickTock...  Link?

Quote:
TickTock
8 July 2011 at 12:20
If I was crazey lawyers sobering up, now in day 3 of the injustice I’d consider the fate of OJ’s key dream team lawyers- all happened within a few years of trial
Cochran, Kardashian dead
Shapiro’s son OD’d
Bailey disbarred for embezzling client funds

lightening strike yesterday at Caylees remains site is the sign… karma is coming boys
oh and Crazey & Spamthony’s take note of what OJ did with his life and it’s outcome.



With all do respect I understand that everyone is angry. Wishing death on people is quite unsettling. I wonder if some people on here with so much hate for these people would actually do some of the things they are thinking or saying. I guess that is why JP is keeping the jurors name secret for now. It is sick that people are making money off of this tragedy! I am right along with you.It is sick that she used her family and accused them of sexual abuse so she could walk free. But instead of hate, the same hate that Casey had for Caylee people need to come together and do what you can do in your communities to make sure this never happens again become involved continue with all of the letters and emails this will  make a difference! Justice will come to Caylee one person at a time. Perhaps God wanted to handle Casey he is the one true judge and jury. I know everyone is angry, and justice for Caylee was taken away as fast as her life was,but wishing death on people is not the way to handle this. I realize that I have not been here long but I have been reading here since the day this happened even going to Orlando and searching. And I prayed over and over again that Caylee would get justice, everything happens for a reason.

an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:05:51 PM
This is the third alternate who has come forward and mirrored Baez's opening and closing statements.  Think about it.  These alternates did not deliberated yet they are one with the 12 jurors who did.

What are the chances of randomly selected twelve jurors and alternates whose postions are ALL contrary to the court of public opinion.

Something is not right.  At some time outside of the courtroom setting ... somebody instructed/influence/persuaded this group to disregard the prosecution's case.  IMO

Janet   

Janet something is definitely not right here..a teacher who is a mandated reporter did not think this looked like even aggravated negligence or agaravated child abuse when all the evidence leads back to the mother.



And a nursing student. And a retired nurse's aide.

This is why I haven't been able to get it out of my head. This is why all of us find it hard to accept. The jurors' verdict defies logic & common sense. What are the odds they were all dropped on their heads as infants?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 11:08:13 PM
Jose Beaz Needs To Be Held Accountable For His Actions

http://www.change.org/petitions/jose-beaz-needs-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-actions

Bumping  ::MonkeyBike::

 ::rhino::
signed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Bud's Girl on July 09, 2011, 11:10:26 PM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 


I turned the channel as soon as Jeanine Pirro said goodnight...she got choked up and was holding back tears, for Caylee.. I knew the 3 stooges were next and didnt want to spoil my night

I know huh ...    At least Kimberly G holds her own; that blood vessel on Geraldo's forehead looked like it was going to BUST when she was talking at him. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 11:11:12 PM
Over 150 Sign Petition Against Jose Baez

Posted: 11:44 pm EDT July 8, 2011
Updated: 11:23 am EDT July 9, 2011
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There is no doubt that the Casey Anthony murder trial was contentious. Even Chief Judge Belvin Perry gave his opinion about the trial and the lawyers.

“There has been gamesmanship in the case, and it’s quite evident there is a friction between attorneys,” Judge Perry said.

Judge Perry showed his frustration several times throughout the trial. He indicated Baez repeatedly tried to question expert witnesses about things that weren’t in their depositions or reports. At one point, Baez was even threatened with contempt.

“I will reserve the decision to proceed with contempt proceedings at the conclusion of this trial,” Judge Perry warned.
 ::snipping2::



http://www.wftv.com/news/28494098/detail.html

There was friction between the attorneys because JP let bozo do unethical and possibly illegal thing to get his client off..........the prosecution was frustrated because they saw an attorney who was breaking every court rule and JP would not only do nothing but would coach him in how to do it.

Turbo, I absolutely agree with you on this.  I do not think Judge Perry is such a great guy or a good judge.  He allowed Baez to run his court and the result was that the jury got the impression, rightly or wrongly, that he favored the defense. They were dependent on the judge for six weeks for their lodging, food, entertainment, etc. as if he were doing them a favor or paying out of his own pocket, so they wanted to please him.  Hell, he even had control over when they could smoke and they were grateful.  They did what they thought Judge Perry wanted them to do. Stockholm syndrome.

Twelve dumbest people on the planet, with a few alternate dummies.

One of the things Judge Perry did which I thought was so unfair was to chastise both the prosecution and the defense when it was the defense, namely Baez, who needed a dressing down.  Also, I grew weary of his always threatening to do things which he never followed up on.  Now that the trial is over, I want to see him carry out his threat to deal with Baez.  Of course, he won't.  It will be forgotten just like the rest of his threats.  I am thoroughly disgusted with the entire proceeding.  It's a disgrace.

So he was frustrated?  Well, so am I.

ITA with both of you.

JP should not have given Baez any breaks because this was his first DP case.  Baez didn't need JP to school him or act as mentor or walk him through that..that is what Mason , Simms and Finnel were there to do.  JP should have taken him to task and fined him and sanctioned him..he didn't need to give all those warnings..Mason knew exactly what he was doing and was guiding Baez in all those tactics.  It was Mason that got rid of Stan in the first place.  JP knew that..and he hurt the prosecution's credability in the juror's eyes..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2011, 11:12:35 PM
I wonder if George and Cindy realize yet that KC will probably walk away from them without a second thought just like she did with Caylee.. now that she has a new, surrogate family.. bet the surrogates dont stick around long either  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:15:14 PM
Found this on Humble Opinion... Thank you TickTock...  link?

Quote:
TickTock
8 July 2011 at 12:20
If I was crazey lawyers sobering up, now in day 3 of the injustice I’d consider the fate of OJ’s key dream team lawyers- all happened within a few years of trial
Cochran, Kardashian dead
Shapiro’s son OD’d
Bailey disbarred for embezzling client funds

lightening strike yesterday at Caylees remains site is the sign… karma is coming boys
oh and Crazey & Spamthony’s take note of what OJ did with his life and it’s outcome.



With all do respect I understand that everyone is angry. Wishing death on people is quite unsettling. I wonder if some people on here with so much hate for these people would actually do some of the things they are thinking or saying. I guess that is why JP is keeping the jurors name secret for now. It is sick that people are making money off of this tragedy! I am right along with you.It is sick that she used her family and accused them of sexual abuse so she could walk free. But instead of hate, the same hate that Casey had for Caylee people need to come together and do what you can do in your communities to make sure this never happens again become involved continue with all of the letters and emails this will  make a difference! Justice will come to Caylee one person at a time. Perhaps God wanted to handle Casey he is the one true judge and jury. I know everyone is angry, and justice for Caylee was taken away as fast as her life was,but wishing death on people is not the way to handle this. I realize that I have not been here long but I have been reading here since the day this happened even going to Orlando and searching. And I prayed over and over again that Caylee would get justice, everything happens for a reason.

an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind

Hi West. I agree with you & I'd never wish death on these people! I think you may have misunderstood TickTock's post. They were referring to Karma coming back & biting them in the azz. Also, I agree with stepping up & making a difference. I've volunteered since I was 13...I'm soon to turn 45! This case cuts to the core with people which is why Caylee's Law has gone viral. Everybody is stepping up to the plate...
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Puzzler on July 09, 2011, 11:20:42 PM
heres an interesting read for some who would like to read this

Double jeopardy – momentarily revisiting Casey Anthony
http://www.kennethballard.com/?p=298

I found this part very interesting.
So let me summarize with an extreme example of how double jeopardy works: Casey Anthony could confess on national television that she actually killed her daughter, even providing all the nasty details that could not be uncovered with forensic evidence, and she is completely immune from prosecution unless evidence emerges that she conspired with another to kill her daughter.

I always wondered if Tony didn't help her since he didn't want daughters,

Heard one of Tony's roommates on Judge Jeannine tonight.  The roommate specifically said that the talk about Tony not liking Caylee is not true, that Tony liked Caylee but that Casey didn't bring her around much.  They all liked Caylee and a joke was they'd rather see Caylee than Casey.

It made me think....We know how Casey feels about someone loving Caylee more than her...if in her warped mind she took that as other than a joke and then Cindy was after her for stealing from Grandpa and going to take Caylee away - maybe the two things together was enough to make Casey flip out and kill Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 11:21:59 PM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 09, 2011, 11:26:09 PM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

I don't think you could find 12 people to agree on anything... much less, 12 - 0 on all 7 counts. Even here we had some that disagreed and held their opinions. Something is wrong. Very wrong.

The odds are 1 in a twillion. -Arpad Vass


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 11:26:52 PM

Janet something is definitely not right here..a teacher who is a mandated reporter did not think this looked like even aggravated negligence or agaravated child abuse when all the evidence leads back to the mother.


Gypsy

I wish with all my heart that Caylee had at least one family advocate who refuses to be silent regarding the possibility of jury tampering ... one family advocate who is motivated to put pressure on the "powers that be" to conduct an investigation ... one family advocate who will continue the fight for justice ... one family advocate whose voice implies that Caylee Marie will not become a distant memory ... will not become yesterday's headline.

Janet

++++++


A VOICE THAT WILL NOT BE SILENCED

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005


<snipped>

HOLLOWAY-TWITTY:  I met with Prime Minister Oduber. I don‘t care who you put the pressure on, where it comes from, but I want—you need to figure it out. You need to figure out who needs to apply the pressure and where it needs to be applied, because you have to solve this crime. I said, you do not want to turn me loose from this island without an answer.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: ... I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


Aruba Admission
Tuesday, August 23, 2005


<snipped>

TWITTY: I met him in his office. And you know, the main things that we went over in the meeting, Greta — you know, I wanted to make it perfectly clear that — you know, Aruba is a small island. We agreed upon that. And this island, you know, it's well connected. Everyone knows everyone. And I wanted to make sure he knew there's no way that I will accept not having answers as to where Natalee is. And if I have to spend the next 40 years being the voice for her out of Aruba.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166524,00.html


'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Sept. 14th
updated 9:13 a.m. PT, Thurs., Sept. 15, 2005


<snipped>

TWITTY: We will keep going back to Aruba over and over again. This is far from over. They know—they have the answers there on the island.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9354188/


Mother confronts Aruba suspect
Holloway's mother questions Kalpoe about disappearance of missing teen


<snipped>

TWITTY:  I think it’s just the side that, you know, I—I will stop at nothing to get answers. There is nothing that I won’t do. There’s nowhere that I won’t go, and there’s nothing—I’m going to ask every question. I don’t care how painful it is. I will do it, because I’m not going to have any regrets.

<snipped>

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/8885950/


Three men freed in Holloway case
Prosecutor: Judge's son, 2 others still under investigation
Monday, September 5, 2005; Posted: 5:43 a.m. EDT (09:43 GMT)


<snipped>
 
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  For the rest of my life, I will continue to be the voice for my daughter, seeking justice in Aruba. Every parent would want the same justice for their child.

<snipped>

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/04/aruba.missing.teen/index.html


'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 24th
updated 7:06 a.m. PT, Tues., Oct. 25, 2005


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: ... I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596 answers that Beth Holloway expects ...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:27:41 PM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

I know! I completely agree! It's ridiculous to think they cme to a NG conclusion...no sense at all! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 11:31:44 PM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

I don't think you could find 12 people to agree on anything... much less, 12 - 0 on all 7 counts. Even here we had some that disagreed and held their opinions. Something is wrong. Very wrong.

The odds are 1 in a twillion. -Arpad Vass

 ::rhino::

That is the exact number I came up with too.  What formula did you use?

Good Night Carpe.  Good Night Monkeys.

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:35:06 PM
JUST BECAUSE...
 
::geraldodance::               ::geraldodance::
           ::geraldodance::
::geraldodance::               ::geraldodance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 09, 2011, 11:36:51 PM
Good night Janet and fellow Monkeys..sweet dreams.

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:38:12 PM
Carpe ~ I'll bet you'd be great at improv! Omg you crack me up!  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 09, 2011, 11:38:58 PM
Good night Janet and fellow Monkeys..sweet dreams.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Goodnight Gypsy. Sweet dreams
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2011, 11:41:01 PM
This is the third alternate who has come forward and mirrored Baez's opening and closing statements.  Think about it.  These alternates did not deliberated yet they are one with the 12 jurors who did.

What are the chances of randomly selected twelve jurors and alternates whose postions are ALL contrary to the court of public opinion.

Something is not right.  At some time outside of the courtroom setting ... somebody instructed/influence/persuaded this group to disregard the prosecution's case.  IMO

Janet   

Janet something is definitely not right here..a teacher who is a mandated reporter did not think this looked like even aggravated negligence or agaravated child abuse when all the evidence leads back to the mother.



Baez stated in his closing arguments that Casey was innocent of all the State's charges except for the lies to authorities and ... in a little more than ten hours of deliberation all 12 jurors concurred and ... three alternates have concurred without any deliberation.

Its magical!

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 11:44:23 PM
I wonder if George and Cindy realize yet that KC will probably walk away from them without a second thought just like she did with Caylee.. now that she has a new, surrogate family.. bet the surrogates dont stick around long either  ::MonkeyHaHa::
exactly as soon as the money is dried up surrogate family will run then they will recant saying they know she killed Caylee but it was a job


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 09, 2011, 11:47:41 PM
:2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall:
 :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall:
 :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall:
 :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall: :2brickwall:


I am still madder than a hornet that had his nest knocked down. It's not leaving!

I sure hope others feel like this.

Stupidest family that ever lived.

Stupidest jury ever to vote.


It just makes me want to whip off my shoe and smack it against a wall!!!!! I don't think a cooling down period is going to help much.

 ::rhino::
 ::rhino::
Carpe, I feel as you do also.  I worry for myself that I cannot let this go. Life is sadder for me now than it has been in years and years and years.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: west941 on July 09, 2011, 11:51:32 PM
Greta will have jury foreman juror number 11 on Monday night


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Brandi on July 09, 2011, 11:52:14 PM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

It's just mind-boggling.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 09, 2011, 11:52:43 PM
Greta will have jury foreman juror number 11 on Monday night
has juror #11 talked yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: west941 on July 09, 2011, 11:55:44 PM
Juror 11 is the PE and health teacher in his 30's uncle was FBI agent no children


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: west941 on July 09, 2011, 11:56:17 PM
Greta will have jury foreman juror number 11 on Monday night
has juror #11 talked yet?

Not that I have heard first time


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 09, 2011, 11:58:41 PM
Over 150 Sign Petition Against Jose Baez

Posted: 11:44 pm EDT July 8, 2011
Updated: 11:23 am EDT July 9, 2011
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There is no doubt that the Casey Anthony murder trial was contentious. Even Chief Judge Belvin Perry gave his opinion about the trial and the lawyers.

“There has been gamesmanship in the case, and it’s quite evident there is a friction between attorneys,” Judge Perry said.

Judge Perry showed his frustration several times throughout the trial. He indicated Baez repeatedly tried to question expert witnesses about things that weren’t in their depositions or reports. At one point, Baez was even threatened with contempt.

“I will reserve the decision to proceed with contempt proceedings at the conclusion of this trial,” Judge Perry warned.
 ::snipping2::



http://www.wftv.com/news/28494098/detail.html

There was friction between the attorneys because JP let bozo do unethical and possibly illegal thing to get his client off..........the prosecution was frustrated because they saw an attorney who was breaking every court rule and JP would not only do nothing but would coach him in how to do it.

Turbo, I absolutely agree with you on this.  I do not think Judge Perry is such a great guy or a good judge.  He allowed Baez to run his court and the result was that the jury got the impression, rightly or wrongly, that he favored the defense. They were dependent on the judge for six weeks for their lodging, food, entertainment, etc. as if he were doing them a favor or paying out of his own pocket, so they wanted to please him.  Hell, he even had control over when they could smoke and they were grateful.  They did what they thought Judge Perry wanted them to do. Stockholm syndrome.

Twelve dumbest people on the planet, with a few alternate dummies.

One of the things Judge Perry did which I thought was so unfair was to chastise both the prosecution and the defense when it was the defense, namely Baez, who needed a dressing down.  Also, I grew weary of his always threatening to do things which he never followed up on.  Now that the trial is over, I want to see him carry out his threat to deal with Baez.  Of course, he won't.  It will be forgotten just like the rest of his threats.  I am thoroughly disgusted with the entire proceeding.  It's a disgrace.

So he was frustrated?  Well, so am I.

ITA with both of you.

JP should not have given Baez any breaks because this was his first DP case.  Baez didn't need JP to school him or act as mentor or walk him through that..that is what Mason , Simms and Finnel were there to do.  JP should have taken him to task and fined him and sanctioned him..he didn't need to give all those warnings..Mason knew exactly what he was doing and was guiding Baez in all those tactics.  It was Mason that got rid of Stan in the first place.  JP knew that..and he hurt the prosecution's credability in the juror's eyes..

I totally agree he hurt the prosecution in the juror's eyes. When he would dress them down for things bozo was doing it gave the appearance they were the ones trying to screw over the court.

He was so damn afraid of a mistrial on his record he screwed up the entire case. THAT IS MY OPINION AND I AM STICKING TO IT !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Brandi on July 10, 2011, 12:00:08 AM
Op-Ed Columnist
A Sordid Cast Around Casey Anthony
By FRANK BRUNI
Published: July 9, 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/opinion/sunday/10bruni.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

Worth a read, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:00:11 AM
Juror #3 was the first to speak publicly? I thought it was a guy... So, this is a little interesting to me bc she is also the most outspoken & has given the most interviews WHY?

http://newsfamilylaw.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/casey-anthony-jurors-speak/

Jennifer Ford, Juror Number Three and the first member of the Casey Anthony trial jury to speak publicly, said, “I did not say she was innocent. I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, then you cannot determine what the punishment should be.” Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student at St. Petersburg College, said the entire jury was “sick to our stomach” throughout the six-week trial and said of their role, “it was a horrible decision to have to make.” Ford also indicated the first degree murder charge was a mistake. She said, “If they charged her with other things, we probably could have gotten a guilty verdict, absolutely.”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:01:09 AM
Juror 11 is the PE and health teacher in his 30's uncle was FBI agent no children

Thanks! It was bugging me which juror it was!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 12:02:56 AM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

I will NEVER be convinced that someone did not get to them. I noticed Lyons was in Pinellas county before they were sequestered. The internet access has me all torn up because the possibility of jury tampering was so great with them having that. I can't believe ANY judge was so stupid.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:04:19 AM
Turbo, 100% agree. He was way too lenient on the Defense...waaay!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 12:04:49 AM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

 ::rhino::...it keeps boiling up in me that thought that someone did get to them.  It is a longshot, but nothing else makes any sense at all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 12:06:02 AM
Juror #3 was the first to speak publicly? I thought it was a guy... So, this is a little interesting to me bc she is also the most outspoken & has given the most interviews WHY?

http://newsfamilylaw.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/casey-anthony-jurors-speak/

Jennifer Ford, Juror Number Three and the first member of the Casey Anthony trial jury to speak publicly, said, “I did not say she was innocent. I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, then you cannot determine what the punishment should be.” Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student at St. Petersburg College, said the entire jury was “sick to our stomach” throughout the six-week trial and said of their role, “it was a horrible decision to have to make.” Ford also indicated the first degree murder charge was a mistake. She said, “If they charged her with other things, we probably could have gotten a guilty verdict, absolutely.”

WHY was she worried about the penalty? There were specifically instructed ONLY to consider the crime and NOT the penalty in the first phase. Did they get an email that said that is the way it had to be?

Also THEY DID CHARGE HER WITH OTHER THINGS - was she too stupid to read them or what?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Truth Baby on July 10, 2011, 12:06:06 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html)
In an interview with ABC News Wednesday night, juror Jennifer Ford was of the same mind.

“There wasn’t enough evidence,” said Ford, who was Juror No. 3. “I don’t think anyone in America can tell us how she died. We have no idea.”

“It was a heartbreaking decision to have to make but I had to do it based on the law . . .” she told ABC News. “You have to prove what happened, and then I’ll give Caylee justice.”

I want to know wth is wrong with this person!!!!!!











Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:06:59 AM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

I will NEVER be convinced that someone did not get to them. I noticed Lyons was in Pinellas county before they were sequestered. The internet access has me all torn up because the possibility of jury tampering was so great with them having that. I can't believe ANY judge was so stupid.

Yep, crazy. I withoutadoubt think there was tampering & plants set in place prior to & during selection. Firmly believe this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 12:07:28 AM
Turbo, 100% agree. He was way too lenient on the Defense...waaay!

What he did was turn the trial around for the defense. He really RUINED (in my eyes) the entire case. But I do believe someone got to them either before they were sequestered or by the web.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 12:08:48 AM
My mind is jumbled from reading so much Im starting to go cross eyed, even my son is telling me mom you can only do so much then you got to let it go and fight another way.

But what I want to know is this. If it is proven that there was tampering with the jury as we all believe or alot believes would this get it back into court?
And have her tried again?
And since bozo was a retainer by the state would she get new lawyers? I know they are picked and assigned by the courts when someone cant afford a lawyer


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:13:04 AM
Juror #3 was the first to speak publicly? I thought it was a guy... So, this is a little interesting to me bc she is also the most outspoken & has given the most interviews WHY?

http://newsfamilylaw.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/casey-anthony-jurors-speak/

Jennifer Ford, Juror Number Three and the first member of the Casey Anthony trial jury to speak publicly, said, “I did not say she was innocent. I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, then you cannot determine what the punishment should be.” Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student at St. Petersburg College, said the entire jury was “sick to our stomach” throughout the six-week trial and said of their role, “it was a horrible decision to have to make.” Ford also indicated the first degree murder charge was a mistake. She said, “If they charged her with other things, we probably could have gotten a guilty verdict, absolutely.”

WHY was she worried about the penalty? There were specifically instructed ONLY to consider the crime and NOT the penalty in the first phase. Did they get an email that said that is the way it had to be?

Also THEY DID CHARGE HER WITH OTHER THINGS - was she too stupid to read them or what?

Pamphlets from FIJA were being passed out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:14:01 AM
Turbo, 100% agree. He was way too lenient on the Defense...waaay!

What he did was turn the trial around for the defense. He really RUINED (in my eyes) the entire case. But I do believe someone got to them either before they were sequestered or by the web.

So do I.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 10, 2011, 12:15:13 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html)
In an interview with ABC News Wednesday night, juror Jennifer Ford was of the same mind.

“There wasn’t enough evidence,” said Ford, who was Juror No. 3. “I don’t think anyone in America can tell us how she died. We have no idea.”

“It was a heartbreaking decision to have to make but I had to do it based on the law . . .” she told ABC News. “You have to prove what happened, and then I’ll give Caylee justice.”

I want to know wth is wrong with this person!!!!!!

You can't fix stupid.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/jenny8.jpg)

Just look at her, and she is in her peak years. It don't get no better than this! ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:16:41 AM
My mind is jumbled from reading so much Im starting to go cross eyed, even my son is telling me mom you can only do so much then you got to let it go and fight another way.

But what I want to know is this. If it is proven that there was tampering with the jury as we all believe or alot believes would this get it back into court?
And have her tried again?
And since bozo was a retainer by the state would she get new lawyers? I know they are picked and assigned by the courts when someone cant afford a lawyer

No, bc she was found NG. If she'd have been found guilty, & if jury tampering could be proven, then a mistrial could be granted. Since she was found not guilty, it can't be challenged.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 12:19:03 AM
My mind is jumbled from reading so much Im starting to go cross eyed, even my son is telling me mom you can only do so much then you got to let it go and fight another way.

But what I want to know is this. If it is proven that there was tampering with the jury as we all believe or alot believes would this get it back into court?
And have her tried again?
And since bozo was a retainer by the state would she get new lawyers? I know they are picked and assigned by the courts when someone cant afford a lawyer

No, bc she was found NG. If she'd have been found guilty, & if jury tampering could be proven, then a mistrial could be granted. Since she was found not guilty, it can't be challenged.
So why is everyone wanting the jury to be investigated if its not going to make a difference?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:20:03 AM
Op-Ed Columnist
A Sordid Cast Around Casey Anthony
By FRANK BRUNI
Published: July 9, 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/opinion/sunday/10bruni.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

Worth a read, IMO.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 12:23:17 AM
My mind is jumbled from reading so much Im starting to go cross eyed, even my son is telling me mom you can only do so much then you got to let it go and fight another way.

But what I want to know is this. If it is proven that there was tampering with the jury as we all believe or alot believes would this get it back into court?
And have her tried again?
And since bozo was a retainer by the state would she get new lawyers? I know they are picked and assigned by the courts when someone cant afford a lawyer

No, bc she was found NG. If she'd have been found guilty, & if jury tampering could be proven, then a mistrial could be granted. Since she was found not guilty, it can't be challenged.

So why is everyone wanting the jury to be investigated if its not going to make a difference?

For answers. To be thorough. If tampering can be proven, people can be charged & reprimanded.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 10, 2011, 12:40:56 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html)
In an interview with ABC News Wednesday night, juror Jennifer Ford was of the same mind.

“There wasn’t enough evidence,” said Ford, who was Juror No. 3. “I don’t think anyone in America can tell us how she died. We have no idea.”

“It was a heartbreaking decision to have to make but I had to do it based on the law . . .” she told ABC News. “You have to prove what happened, and then I’ll give Caylee justice.”

I want to know wth is wrong with this person!!!!!!

You can't fix stupid.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/jenny8.jpg)

Just look at her, and she is in her peak years. It don't get no better than this! ::monkeywine2::

Her "peak" years??

So, what does that make me, Carpe? The Valley of the Shadow of Death???   ::MonkeyShocked::
 ::MonkeyTongue::


I have no problem, really, with her appearance......... it's her lack of a brain that bothers me. No wonder she looks like Scarecrow, and Oz isn't going to help her either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Love2Read on July 10, 2011, 12:41:02 AM
30 minutes ago, on HLN, Jane Valez said 99% of the anger is over, except for a few wing nuts.

I resent that, plus, she is just plain wrong. If I wasn't angry, I would not be signing petitions, researching legal issues, contact state officials, on and on.

It seems like every time she comes on she says something stupid and I don't know why. Vinnie Politan tries to coral her, but he's a nice guy, trying to walk a tight rope, so he can't just say, "Jane, you don't know what you're talking about."

Whew!    ::MonkeyMad::

Jane calling a wingnut a wingnut.... so terribly redundant. She needs to sit down, stfu, and have a nice carrot. ::MonkeyTongue::


OMG Carpe, you always make me laugh. ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 12:46:50 AM
Over 150 Sign Petition Against Jose Baez

Posted: 11:44 pm EDT July 8, 2011
Updated: 11:23 am EDT July 9, 2011
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There is no doubt that the Casey Anthony murder trial was contentious. Even Chief Judge Belvin Perry gave his opinion about the trial and the lawyers.

“There has been gamesmanship in the case, and it’s quite evident there is a friction between attorneys,” Judge Perry said.

Judge Perry showed his frustration several times throughout the trial. He indicated Baez repeatedly tried to question expert witnesses about things that weren’t in their depositions or reports. At one point, Baez was even threatened with contempt.

“I will reserve the decision to proceed with contempt proceedings at the conclusion of this trial,” Judge Perry warned.
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http://www.wftv.com/news/28494098/detail.html

There was friction between the attorneys because JP let bozo do unethical and possibly illegal thing to get his client off..........the prosecution was frustrated because they saw an attorney who was breaking every court rule and JP would not only do nothing but would coach him in how to do it.

Turbo, I absolutely agree with you on this.  I do not think Judge Perry is such a great guy or a good judge.  He allowed Baez to run his court and the result was that the jury got the impression, rightly or wrongly, that he favored the defense. They were dependent on the judge for six weeks for their lodging, food, entertainment, etc. as if he were doing them a favor or paying out of his own pocket, so they wanted to please him.  Hell, he even had control over when they could smoke and they were grateful.  They did what they thought Judge Perry wanted them to do. Stockholm syndrome.

Twelve dumbest people on the planet, with a few alternate dummies.

One of the things Judge Perry did which I thought was so unfair was to chastise both the prosecution and the defense when it was the defense, namely Baez, who needed a dressing down.  Also, I grew weary of his always threatening to do things which he never followed up on.  Now that the trial is over, I want to see him carry out his threat to deal with Baez.  Of course, he won't.  It will be forgotten just like the rest of his threats.  I am thoroughly disgusted with the entire proceeding.  It's a disgrace.

So he was frustrated?  Well, so am I.

ITA with both of you.

JP should not have given Baez any breaks because this was his first DP case.  Baez didn't need JP to school him or act as mentor or walk him through that..that is what Mason , Simms and Finnel were there to do.  JP should have taken him to task and fined him and sanctioned him..he didn't need to give all those warnings..Mason knew exactly what he was doing and was guiding Baez in all those tactics.  It was Mason that got rid of Stan in the first place.  JP knew that..and he hurt the prosecution's credability in the juror's eyes..

I totally agree he hurt the prosecution in the juror's eyes. When he would dress them down for things bozo was doing it gave the appearance they were the ones trying to screw over the court.

He was so damn afraid of a mistrial on his record he screwed up the entire case. THAT IS MY OPINION AND I AM STICKING TO IT !!

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: ISpy on July 10, 2011, 12:49:20 AM
Good evening, everybody!  Still catching up-almost there.  Thinking about this possible jury tampering thing a little more. I was reading here about the jury being sequestered and thinking about ways to tamper with a jury, if I were so inclined.  I noticed the article didn't say anything about books.  Were jurors allowed to bring in books?  Any books from home?  Were those checked for notes/message/underlined or otherwise highlighted passages?  How about Bibles (specifically, complimentary hotel room Bibles)?  I was just thinking about Cindy and George Anthony only carrying their Bibles to court on a few select days, as opposed to the entire 6 weeks. Thinking about Cindy's mad note scribbling.  I'm wondering if someone on staff at the hotel was a plant from the Defense or that jury group banned from the courthouse.  It would be very easy for an aproned maid (or maids), carrying literature/notes from the defense or jury group in her pockets, to leave a little "inspiration" inside those Bibles.  Just sayin'.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 12:52:46 AM
To bad this didn't happen in Canada they don't have the double jeopardy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 12:54:31 AM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

I will NEVER be convinced that someone did not get to them. I noticed Lyons was in Pinellas county before they were sequestered. The internet access has me all torn up because the possibility of jury tampering was so great with them having that. I can't believe ANY judge was so stupid.

Re their internet use:  Judge Perry told them they could conduct business in 'the common' room--whatever that was.  And they would be monitored at all times by security.  Hmmmmm?  One wonders how secure anything was with that jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Love2Read on July 10, 2011, 01:09:53 AM
I'm a day late and a $ short, as I'm still catching up on threads from days ago and just read this:

Quote from: TURBOTHINK
It started out with a sleazy family with a precious young child none of them gave a baker's damn about except as she could benefit them. A mother who didn't want her to begin with and no desire to make a home for her or take care of her; a grandmother who used her as an extension of her own ego when her first choice KC screwed up her life; an uncle who was excluded in everything concerning the baby and a grandfather who did not have the testicles to act like a man and stop allowing his daughter to lie, steal and run wild. KC got by with all the things she did because NO ONE could or would stop her.

In a more normal family when KC started screwing up in school they would have made sure she got psychological help. By the time she reached high school it was too late, but instead they went into coverup for her lying  and telling people she graduated. A normal family would have insisted she finish high school. A normal family would have noticed she was pregnant before she was due to deliver and not lied about that when asked. A normal family would have checked on their daughter where she worked and known she really had a job. A normal family would never have accepted that there was a babysitter NONE of them had ever met, talked to or seen. Anyone (even a grandfather) would have known there was something wrong with that story and would have investigated BEFORE the baby died.

These people are just pure trash who lived in an average house after filing bankruptcy instead of a shack somewhere and because they ALL wanted to be something they were not and never could be, this baby died. Here in the South we know them as carpet baggers. Nobodies who sacrificed a baby's life for their greed and lusts.
BBM

Excellent post.  The most concise and precise explanation of the Anthony family that I've read to date.  The part I've bolded is one thing that's always bothered me about this case.  TWO YEARS and no one ever met the nanny?  Impossible to imagine.  You think that Casey would have wanted, at some point, to introduce the nanny to the family, being that she spoke so favorably about her.  And...in all that time, IF there had been a nanny, there would have been at least one time where Casey could not pick Caylee up on time and would have to call Cindy to do so.  And you'd think that Cindy would at least have wanted the nanny's phone number in case of emergency.  Either Cindy is just one naive person or she suspected all along that there wasn't a nanny but didn't want to press the issue.

Are there any theories as to why Cindy never questioned the nanny's existence?


It seems as if I am always playing catch-up too, so I am just reading this and I have to say, excellent post Turbo.  You nailed it.  Caylee had a "nanny" for two years, and yet the people that loved her the most had never met or talked to her.  WTF??  Were they that blind to everything Casey told them?  My 10 month old grandchild goes to the daycare his mother OWNS and works at  and I "pop in" regularly to check on his welfare.  I don't trust anybody with MY grandbaby. LOL   To say they thought there was a "nanny" but had never met or talked to her is just preposturous.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 01:12:55 AM
I found this here http://www.mileylegal.com/blog/casey-anthony-can-be-tried-again.cfm

Did You Know that Casey Anthony CAN be Tried in Court AGAIN?

Did you know that Casey Anthony could possibly still face a civil courtroom? While I can't speak to Florida's laws, I can say that in West Virginia, a court appointed representative of Caylee Anthony can initiate a civil action in court to pursue a civil claim against Casey Anthony hoping that a verdict will be returned against her.  Such a verdict would prevent Ms. Anthony from ever profiting for what many believe to be her intentional and illegal activities, as well as, forever holding her accountable for the death of her daughter, Caylee. 

interesting reading


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 01:22:11 AM
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Jennifer_Lord_4665279/

Is this the same one?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Love2Read on July 10, 2011, 01:30:21 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/os-casey-anthony-jurors-lifestyle-20110709,0,3287224.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/os-casey-anthony-jurors-lifestyle-20110709,0,3287224.story)

Casey Anthony jurors: What life was like for 17 sequestered in murder trial
Jurors had limited access to TV, Internet during the trial, court spokeswoman says.

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Each juror had a separate room at the hotel, Levey said, and access to a shared common room they called the "parlor room." They typically ate two of their three daily meals at the hotel.

The jurors lived under the watchful eye of Orange County deputies, who monitored them and transported them everywhere they went. They watched them as jurors made calls, used the Web and met with family.

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Levey said the jurors were allowed to have cell phones, but they were kept in the custody of deputies, who monitored phone calls as well as the limited internet access jurors were allowed.

But jurors weren't exactly allowed to surf the Web, or to use the internet for entertainment, Levey said.

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As closely as they were watched, Levey said the court ultimately had to trust the jurors to follow the frequent admonitions they were given by Judge Belvin Perry each day.

"There's a certain amount of trust with any jury," Levey said. "You have to trust these people."

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Have to trust them?  No really, I don't.....

WTH were they allowed to USE THE WEB at all? There is your answer - The defense KNEW the verdict was going to be because these jurors were sent web links to read I am betting money. If this isn't jury tampering I don't know what is and what brilliant idiot allowed jurors to use the web. I have never heard of that in my life. These jurors might as well have stayed at home and saved the taxpayers a million dollars.


We all saw Bobo texting during court, wouldn't surprise me in the least if HE was the one sending them links.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 01:31:36 AM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

I will NEVER be convinced that someone did not get to them. I noticed Lyons was in Pinellas county before they were sequestered. The internet access has me all torn up because the possibility of jury tampering was so great with them having that. I can't believe ANY judge was so stupid.

Re their internet use:  Judge Perry told them they could conduct business in 'the common' room--whatever that was.  And they would be monitored at all times by security.  Hmmmmm?  One wonders how secure anything was with that jury.

It wasn't like they had any CEO's of companies on that jury. Most of them didn't even work. Then we have school teachers and others with insignificant jobs. What would a chef need off the internet? A recipe? The nurses' aid? student? NONE of them had business to conduct on the web - If they needed to pay a bill they could write a check like 90% of other people do. Maybe they needed to file for their unemployment checks. There is not one thing any of them could not do by phone which was supervised "supposedly" - I would like to see ALL their cell phone bills and room phone bills. I have never head of such insanity. I am going to call my cousin the judge tomorrow and ask him all about jury sequestration and the rules.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Love2Read on July 10, 2011, 01:36:26 AM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

It's just mind-boggling.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I still cannot wrap my brain around this.  I can almost guarantee that somehow someone got to these people, or at least one or two of them, after the were selected but before they were sequestered and I pray to God we find out the truth one day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 01:41:45 AM

I still cannot wrap my brain around this.  I can almost guarantee that somehow someone got to these people, or at least one or two of them, after the were selected but before they were sequestered and I pray to God we find out the truth one day.
Fix quote

With as many people looking, the truth may become evident faster than bozo would like. Once those jury names are released, (which they have to be) background investigations can start and just see WHO these people really are and their connections to the defense. When it gets hot enough one of them will roll over to keep from going to jail. Wouldn't it be funny if they let her lose on society and lost their own freedom.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: ISpy on July 10, 2011, 01:42:26 AM
Having worked with children for years, I can assure you that if you sat across from me in a courtroom and told me under oath that the defendant's two year was sleeping in your bed with you and your girlfriend, you'd better expect CPS to show up on your doorstep pronto.  If a second witness told me under oath that the mother brought the child to adult parties, where she fell asleep on the couch and was allowed to stay there, Witness #2 better be looking for CPS. Just the well-documented fact (sworn to by numerous witnesses) that Caylee rarely slept in her own bed for one full week (much less the 130 weeks of her life), should be considered child abuse-particulary given that the whole reason for the nanny was a lie and there was no nanny.  So, where was Caylee sleeping overnight all those late nights that Casey "worked events"? Clearly, the Anthonys didn't have her, Casey did. Cindy told us on the stand that after the evening swim on June 15th, she handed Caylee out of the pool to a waiting Casey to get her dried off and ready for bed (establishes parental physical custody).  That is the last time Cindy or George saw her...with her mother!  The next day she's dead, head wrapped in duct tape.  Clearly, that qualifies as Aggravated Child Abuse here http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/children/aggravated-child-abuse.html  (http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/children/aggravated-child-abuse.html), since Casey had last know custody and Caylee couldn't wrap her own face with duct tape. Cindy also said related that weeks later, she went to Universal intending to meet Casey to pick up Caylee (again, establishes parental physical custody with Casey).
Well, time to go.  Hope you all have a good evening!  Take good care!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: KCJackie on July 10, 2011, 01:44:09 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html)
In an interview with ABC News Wednesday night, juror Jennifer Ford was of the same mind.

“There wasn’t enough evidence,” said Ford, who was Juror No. 3. “I don’t think anyone in America can tell us how she died. We have no idea.”

“It was a heartbreaking decision to have to make but I had to do it based on the law . . .” she told ABC News. “You have to prove what happened, and then I’ll give Caylee justice.”

I want to know wth is wrong with this person!!!!!!

You can't fix stupid.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/jenny8.jpg)

Just look at her, and she is in her peak years. It don't get no better than this! ::monkeywine2::

She has definitely earned this.... (http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee161/ignitetheairwaves85/dumbass_award.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 01:48:38 AM
Having worked with children for years, I can assure you that if you sat across from me in a courtroom and told me under oath that the defendant's two year was sleeping in your bed with you and your girlfriend, you'd better expect CPS to show up on your doorstep pronto.  If a second witness told me under oath that the mother brought the child to adult parties, where she fell asleep on the couch and was allowed to stay there, Witness #2 better be looking for CPS. Just the well-documented fact (sworn to by numerous witnesses) that Caylee rarely slept in her own bed for one full week (much less the 130 weeks of her life), should be considered child abuse-particulary given that the whole reason for the nanny was a lie and there was no nanny.  So, where was Caylee sleeping overnight all those late nights that Casey "worked events"? Clearly, the Anthonys didn't have her, Casey did. Cindy told us on the stand that after the evening swim on June 15th, she handed Caylee out of the pool to a waiting Casey to get her dried off and ready for bed (establishes parental physical custody).  That is the last time Cindy or George saw her...with her mother!  The next day she's dead, head wrapped in duct tape.  Clearly, that qualifies as Aggravated Child Abuse here http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/children/aggravated-child-abuse.html  (http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/children/aggravated-child-abuse.html), since Casey had last know custody and Caylee couldn't wrap her own face with duct tape. Cindy also said related that weeks later, she went to Universal intending to meet Casey to pick up Caylee (again, establishes parental physical custody with Casey).
Well, time to go.  Hope you all have a good evening!  Take good care!

That is what I don't understand at all - there was more than enough evidence that she was negligent in caring for her. Sleeping WITH the baby in men's beds, taking her to parties where more than one witness said she slept through all the partying. She was being sedated which was obvious abuse. I still stand by my original statement the day of the verdict - I feel there was jury tampering in some form.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on July 10, 2011, 02:41:26 AM
I just went to this thread http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9924.0

and read the list of jurors that Brandi made for us.

Read over this list again and you will be amazed at the verdict.

There are many people on there that stated they either work with children or have worked with chiildren in the past..all those individuals are mandated reporters for child abuse..a nursing student, a nurse's aide, the lady from Publix who worked in day care before, the young woman who's mother was an attorney and she works in children's services, a surgical assistant, 2 high school teachers, a young man who had worked in day care ....and the one hold out was the IT guy..come on ..some one got to these people or someone was planted to make these people doubt their own thinking...these people could not have gotten to that decision on their  own.

It's just mind-boggling.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I still cannot wrap my brain around this.  I can almost guarantee that somehow someone got to these people, or at least one or two of them, after the were selected but before they were sequestered and I pray to God we find out the truth one day.
I think this may have been when they got to them.  I still can see Jose's smile before the verdict was read.  I think he knew at that time it was in the bag so to speak.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on July 10, 2011, 03:06:04 AM
Sooo...Who were the fricken jurors that wouldn't vote Casey guilty no matter what?

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html
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But Juror No. 2 didn’t buy that.

“The six that voted guilty said it didn’t matter at what point in time she came home and found out her daughter was missing,” he said. “She had to report it in some way, shape or form, and that’s where the negligence came in.”

But some jurors, he said, had decided not to convict Casey Anthony of any charge in the girl’s death. By lunch Tuesday, the guilty side started to lose votes.

Found her daughter missing? WTF? Did they listen to anything anyone said OTHER than the defense?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 10, 2011, 03:24:10 AM
Sooo...Who were the fricken jurors that wouldn't vote Casey guilty no matter what?

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html
Snipped:
But Juror No. 2 didn’t buy that.

“The six that voted guilty said it didn’t matter at what point in time she came home and found out her daughter was missing,” he said. “She had to report it in some way, shape or form, and that’s where the negligence came in.”

But some jurors, he said, had decided not to convict Casey Anthony of any charge in the girl’s death. By lunch Tuesday, the guilty side started to lose votes.

Found her daughter missing? WTF? Did they listen to anything anyone said OTHER than the defense?

Agree... and to add to your point.... Casey never came home... she had to be tracked down by Hitler Cindy Marie, the bloodhound.

I don't think the jurors even stayed awake during this trial. Bunch of no ear havin' muthas!!!! I highly dislike them all, equally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: carpe noctem on July 10, 2011, 03:25:28 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html)
In an interview with ABC News Wednesday night, juror Jennifer Ford was of the same mind.

“There wasn’t enough evidence,” said Ford, who was Juror No. 3. “I don’t think anyone in America can tell us how she died. We have no idea.”

“It was a heartbreaking decision to have to make but I had to do it based on the law . . .” she told ABC News. “You have to prove what happened, and then I’ll give Caylee justice.”

I want to know wth is wrong with this person!!!!!!

You can't fix stupid.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/jenny8.jpg)

Just look at her, and she is in her peak years. It don't get no better than this! ::monkeywine2::

She has definitely earned this.... (http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee161/ignitetheairwaves85/dumbass_award.jpg)

bump - cuz I just wanted to award Jennifer twice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: texasmom on July 10, 2011, 04:12:07 AM
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I am still madder than a hornet that had his nest knocked down. It's not leaving!

I sure hope others feel like this.

Stupidest family that ever lived.

Stupidest jury ever to vote.


It just makes me want to whip off my shoe and smack it against a wall!!!!! I don't think a cooling down period is going to help much.

I'm still madder than a hornet too Carpe!  I've been listening to the replay of the closing arguments on HLN...wish I hadn't...my blood is boiling!  The jury apparently listened to Bozo and Foghorn instead of rendering a verdict on the evidence and common sense; and they've set a baby murderer free!  I just can't get over that.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Shell on July 10, 2011, 04:21:23 AM
Juror #3 was the first to speak publicly? I thought it was a guy... So, this is a little interesting to me bc she is also the most outspoken & has given the most interviews WHY?

http://newsfamilylaw.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/casey-anthony-jurors-speak/

Jennifer Ford, Juror Number Three and the first member of the Casey Anthony trial jury to speak publicly, said, “I did not say she was innocent. I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, then you cannot determine what the punishment should be.” Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student at St. Petersburg College, said the entire jury was “sick to our stomach” throughout the six-week trial and said of their role, “it was a horrible decision to have to make.” Ford also indicated the first degree murder charge was a mistake. She said, “If they charged her with other things, we probably could have gotten a guilty verdict, absolutely.”

So you thought 1st degree murder was a mistake, then why not decide (guilty) on one of the lesser charges? Guilty of something. They did charge her with other things, you idiots.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Shell on July 10, 2011, 04:25:17 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html)
In an interview with ABC News Wednesday night, juror Jennifer Ford was of the same mind.

“There wasn’t enough evidence,” said Ford, who was Juror No. 3. “I don’t think anyone in America can tell us how she died. We have no idea.”

“It was a heartbreaking decision to have to make but I had to do it based on the law . . .” she told ABC News. “You have to prove what happened, and then I’ll give Caylee justice.”

I want to know wth is wrong with this person!!!!!!

You can't fix stupid.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/jenny8.jpg)

Just look at her, and she is in her peak years. It don't get no better than this! ::monkeywine2::

She has definitely earned this.... (http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee161/ignitetheairwaves85/dumbass_award.jpg)

bump - cuz I just wanted to award Jennifer twice.

Can't stop laughing... ::MonkeyJnBox::
I am so pizzed, I needed that, thanks you all  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Shell on July 10, 2011, 04:42:58 AM

Jennifer Ford must feel terribly insecure and remorseful about her decision or she would not be protesting so much.

 ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: texasmom on July 10, 2011, 04:46:03 AM
Remember, Baez was not in the courtroom when the jury was brought in before deliberations on July 5th....the day of the verdict.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11189.1200

Quote from KittyMom
« Reply #1210 on: July 05, 2011, 07:36:02 AM »
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Jose doesn't bother to get there on time.

Quote from tupelohoney
« Reply #1211 on: July 05, 2011, 07:36:02 AM »
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No Baez this morning....guess he is done with her!

Quote from Jazzy
« Reply #1213 on: July 05, 2011, 07:36:39 AM »
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Lover Boy Bozo is not in court this morning

Quote from KittyMom
« Reply #1215 on: July 05, 2011, 07:38:13 AM »

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Clock is going again.

Jose still isn't there.  KC and Sims still talking.

Where was he?

And when he does finally show up...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11189.1240

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« Reply #1244 on: July 05, 2011, 07:45:38 AM »
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Please tell me someone else saw what Bozo just did to the camera outside the courtroom

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9947.msg1440145#msg1440145

(http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/main/7/18714434711.jpg)

I didn't listen to his big speech after the verdict that day but I just heard a lot of it on the replay I've been watching.  One segment about us "not killing our people".

Something's not right, I don't know how it was done but I believe someone got to the jury too.

I hope and pray, someone gets to the bottom of it.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Lesee77 on July 10, 2011, 05:07:26 AM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I don't know if anyone posted this before, but I thought the lyrics to the song Casey played over and over while Tracy McLaughlin was babysitting her were interesting! Here they are:

"The Past"
(Sevendust feat. Chris Daughtry)

Beneath the water
that's falling from my eyes
lays a soul I've left behind
the edge of sorrow was reached but now I'm fine
I've filled the hole I had inside

I'll pray it doesn't scream my name
so I light a flame and let it breathe
the air that kills the shame

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again

a risky morning
I feel like I'm alive
I can't believe I've made it through this time
the edge of sorrow I lived in for some time
(lived in for some time)
has left the hole I have inside

The burden is I try my hate
was the last thing I ever felt
or thought I could escape

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again
[x2]

You let me in then broke me down
the difference is this time around
I will not let you see me try

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again
[x2]

Erased the past again now
Erased the past again

Beneath the water
that has fallen from my eyes

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/sevendust/thepast.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/sevendust/thepast.html)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: ZooMomology on July 10, 2011, 06:24:19 AM
Still having major problems even looking at pictures.  It nauseates me that somebody could get off of a murder charge so easy in this country, and that the state has no recourse, that the defendant can appeal a trillion times, but the state's hands are tied now.

I figure the longer I do not read the news or look at pics, the quicker my heart may heal, but in all reality, it never will, until justice is done for Caylee.

Anyway, wanted to say my son was on a week camping trip with the boyscouts.  He is 12 and so he was with other 12 yo's.  This is a whole other story of stress and emotional pain allowing him to go, but that is besides the point.  He came home yesterday, he is fine, and he told me that his scout leader (adult) told them all that KC was found NG and they were all upset by it.  My son knows all about the case because of me, but I thought it spoke volumes that the scout leader would tell all the other scouts about it during a camping trip. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: ZooMomology on July 10, 2011, 06:25:16 AM
Hugs everybody.  I will be around.  Kind of hoping the wench got out already so I do not have to anticipate it for a while week. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 07:15:11 AM
Okay, the murderer kills her baby, abusing her daughter, abuses a corpse etc.,steals from her ailing grandfather, steals from her mother & friend and lies constantly. 

Casey Anthony has definitely committed more crimes then those we know about.  I think it is just a matter of time before something else from her past comes up.  They may already have some suspicions but since she was (or so we all thought) going to be convicted of murder it seemed like peanuts in comparison.  You can't tell me she hasn't broken more laws.  Theft, forgery etc. If something is found do you think they'd even bother arresting her for it or forget about it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 07:47:16 AM
 ::HelloKitty:: Good morning georgia peach, SweetMorgan, TampaMom, NCSunny, theboyzmom, rumpled buddha, mamolie and 14 guests.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 10, 2011, 07:55:38 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/2011_0710caylees_law_true_justice/srvc=home&position=1
Caylee’s Law true justice
Margery Eagan By Margery Eagan
Sunday, July 10, 2011 - Updated 43 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::
By late afternoon yesterday nearly 1 million people had signed the Caylee’s Law petition.

That’s not so surprising, considering that a recent Gallup poll found that half the country closely tracked the trial and 64 percent believe Casey killed her little girl.

Since the verdict, the commentary has settled into two camps: those stunned by the quick verdict (my side) and those who tout it as an example of our jury system working as it should. From this latter camp has come a heavy undertone of disdain, even condescension, toward those of us still bewildered. It’s as if we couldn’t be upset without cable TV’s Nancy Grace to whip us into unenlightened hysteria.

Well, I’m no Nancy Grace apologist. I’ve never even watched her show.

So with respect to those Casey Anthony jury defenders, I think they miss one crucial point.

You can argue that prosecutors overcharged here with murder (in Florida, first-degree murder is punishable by death). You can argue that forensic, DNA and cause of death evidence were imperfect (though that has not prevented numerous juries, including the one that convicted wife-killer Scott Peterson, from connecting the dots in a strong circumstantial case). But you cannot reasonably claim that failing to report a 2-year-old missing for 31 days is anything other than child abuse, neglect and endangerment.

The vast majority of mothers and fathers don’t need felony laws to deter such horrible parenting. They’d panic, a pit in their stomach, within seconds of a toddler escaping their sight.

But of course Casey Anthony did not panic.
“Justice for Caylee” has become the rallying cry in this case. Yet it’s impossible now. Caylee is dead. Her murderer will likely not pay the price. What is possible is taking something hopeful from this mess. Passing Caylee’s Law, said Myers, “is the least we can do.”


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 07:56:44 AM
I have a question...

We know Casey can't be tried for Caylee's murder again bc of double jeopardy laws...

However...

She took donations from people all over our country, as well as others, knowing she was lying about her daughter being kidnapped. Casey kept up this farce for a few years. Surely that's intentional misrepresentation of facts in order to commit fraud for profit. Or am I wrong? Surely that could be considered a federal offense since donations were national, heck international...wouldn't it? Isn't there some kind of loophole to keep her behind bars?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 07:59:37 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/2011_0710caylees_law_true_justice/srvc=home&position=1
Caylee’s Law true justice
Margery Eagan By Margery Eagan
Sunday, July 10, 2011 - Updated 43 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::
By late afternoon yesterday nearly 1 million people had signed the Caylee’s Law petition.

That’s not so surprising, considering that a recent Gallup poll found that half the country closely tracked the trial and 64 percent believe Casey killed her little girl.

Since the verdict, the commentary has settled into two camps: those stunned by the quick verdict (my side) and those who tout it as an example of our jury system working as it should. From this latter camp has come a heavy undertone of disdain, even condescension, toward those of us still bewildered. It’s as if we couldn’t be upset without cable TV’s Nancy Grace to whip us into unenlightened hysteria.

Well, I’m no Nancy Grace apologist. I’ve never even watched her show.

So with respect to those Casey Anthony jury defenders, I think they miss one crucial point.

You can argue that prosecutors overcharged here with murder (in Florida, first-degree murder is punishable by death). You can argue that forensic, DNA and cause of death evidence were imperfect (though that has not prevented numerous juries, including the one that convicted wife-killer Scott Peterson, from connecting the dots in a strong circumstantial case). But you cannot reasonably claim that failing to report a 2-year-old missing for 31 days is anything other than child abuse, neglect and endangerment.

The vast majority of mothers and fathers don’t need felony laws to deter such horrible parenting. They’d panic, a pit in their stomach, within seconds of a toddler escaping their sight.

But of course Casey Anthony did not panic.
“Justice for Caylee” has become the rallying cry in this case. Yet it’s impossible now. Caylee is dead. Her murderer will likely not pay the price. What is possible is taking something hopeful from this mess. Passing Caylee’s Law, said Myers, “is the least we can do.”

Excellent article! Thank you Trimm! I agree with this writer on all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: tigs222 on July 10, 2011, 08:01:12 AM
that juror number 3 is a cocky, pompous idiot.  i just saw her interview and i wanted to scream, who the hell does this twit think she is?  and she wants to be a nurse?!?!! yea ok, being a nurse means you are a mandated reporter you a$$hat, and clearly you don't know the first thing about what constitutes child abuse or neglect.  if i was ever a patient of this juror #3 i would refuse to let her near me and demand to switch hospitals or whatever.  i think she's gonna have real problems finding a job and i'm not even just saying that.  people aren't going to just forget her, especially since she is plastering herself all over the news.  my only hope is that she is forced to smell the smell of death sometime soon in her nursing studies and realizes what a mistake she made. she is disgusting!

...and I don't mean to be small, but I will be anyway... She has a nose like Jimmy Durante and hair by Darth Vader.

Glamour Shots ain't gonna help little "Jenny". She needs a burlap sack.
Agreed she's an idiot!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 10, 2011, 08:02:38 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/276805/The-other-judge:-Stan-Strickland-shocked-at-Casey-Anthonys-acquittal
The other judge: Stan Strickland shocked at Casey Anthony's acquittal
Stan Strickland, the original judge in the Casey Anthony case, said he is shocked by the verdict, but thinks everyone should respect the jury's decision and move on.
By Jacqueline Fell, Reporter
Last Updated: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:31 AM 
He was the original Orange County judge to hear the
criminal case against Casey Anthony.

But Stan Strickland stepped down more than a year before the trial began, and Chief Judge Belvin Perry took over the case.

Now, with the trial over, Strickland said he was amazed to see how well everything went without a hitch.

But he also admitted he was shocked to see Casey Anthony acquitted of first-degree murder.

"It didn't turn out the way I thought it would, but nothing wrong with that," said Strickland. "I think we need to respect the jury's decision and just move on."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: tigs222 on July 10, 2011, 08:03:53 AM

Jennifer Ford must feel terribly insecure and remorseful about her decision or she would not be protesting so much.

 ::MonkeyTongue::


I hope that decision haunts her forever......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 08:14:41 AM
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Jennifer_Lord_4665279/

Is this the same one?

No...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 10, 2011, 08:17:50 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey (http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey)
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
A civil rights group wants a law to protect jurors' identities in light of the #caseyanthony trial: http://goo.gl/epzft
9 hours ago


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 10, 2011, 08:21:43 AM
WFTV Special: Casey Found Not Guilty
A WFTV special takes a look at the Casey Anthony story, and the not guilty verdict.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28498543/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 08:46:29 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey (http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey)
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
A civil rights group wants a law to protect jurors' identities in light of the #caseyanthony trial: http://goo.gl/epzft
9 hours ago

Well who didn't know that...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: cherjers on July 10, 2011, 08:53:02 AM
Turbo, 100% agree. He was way too lenient on the Defense...waaay!

What he did was turn the trial around for the defense. He really RUINED (in my eyes) the entire case. But I do believe someone got to them either before they were sequestered or by the web.
The judge gave this trial to the defense at jury selection-If a person tells you they cant judge-what the hell are they on a jury for--I thought that was the main funtion of a jury was to judge-JUdge Perry was so wrong in jury selction- time was so important to him-yet he wasted the states money and let a guilty person go free-but I guess he is happy he kept the trial on his stupid time frame


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 09:08:02 AM
Klaas... Ya still here?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 09:10:07 AM
Klaas... Ya still here?

Here but very early for me.  What's up?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 09:10:55 AM
Klaas... Ya still here?

Here but very early for me.  What's up?

Gimme just one minute. I have a post you'll find very interesting...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 10, 2011, 09:12:57 AM

ugh... Baez & Mason interview on Geraldo.


CBB  - would it be inappropriate on Caylee's board to post the Geraldo face jumping monkey with duct tape on its mouth that Klaas made a couple yrs ago? 



Hiya, Bud's!! I don't remember it, but I, for one, would like to see it!! 


(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii361/BudsGirl/GeraldoDance.gif)


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

OMG!! We need it now!!!   ::boxinggeraldo2::

Klaas? Can we have that on the menu? Thanks for saving and posting it, Bud's!!  ::MonkeyDance::


I just got on......made my day...
 ::geraldodance:: ::geraldodance:: ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: pharlap on July 10, 2011, 09:26:34 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/2011_0710caylees_law_true_justice/srvc=home&position=1
Caylee’s Law true justice
Margery Eagan By Margery Eagan
Sunday, July 10, 2011 - Updated 43 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::
By late afternoon yesterday nearly 1 million people had signed the Caylee’s Law petition.

That’s not so surprising, considering that a recent Gallup poll found that half the country closely tracked the trial and 64 percent believe Casey killed her little girl.

Since the verdict, the commentary has settled into two camps: those stunned by the quick verdict (my side) and those who tout it as an example of our jury system working as it should. From this latter camp has come a heavy undertone of disdain, even condescension, toward those of us still bewildered. It’s as if we couldn’t be upset without cable TV’s Nancy Grace to whip us into unenlightened hysteria.

Well, I’m no Nancy Grace apologist. I’ve never even watched her show.

So with respect to those Casey Anthony jury defenders, I think they miss one crucial point.

You can argue that prosecutors overcharged here with murder (in Florida, first-degree murder is punishable by death). You can argue that forensic, DNA and cause of death evidence were imperfect (though that has not prevented numerous juries, including the one that convicted wife-killer Scott Peterson, from connecting the dots in a strong circumstantial case). But you cannot reasonably claim that failing to report a 2-year-old missing for 31 days is anything other than child abuse, neglect and endangerment.

The vast majority of mothers and fathers don’t need felony laws to deter such horrible parenting. They’d panic, a pit in their stomach, within seconds of a toddler escaping their sight.

But of course Casey Anthony did not panic.
“Justice for Caylee” has become the rallying cry in this case. Yet it’s impossible now. Caylee is dead. Her murderer will likely not pay the price. What is possible is taking something hopeful from this mess. Passing Caylee’s Law, said Myers, “is the least we can do.”

Caylee IS the poster child of all the children taken by the hands of their parent/parents/family members/strangers............

1,001,000 and counting!!!!!!!!!!!
Caylee's Law
 ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: pinkbanana on July 10, 2011, 09:30:03 AM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 09:30:11 AM
Hmmm... Just wondering if there was a hidden agenda for some jurors, so this is interesting... If Brandi or someone could take screen caps, it'd be muck appreciated...



http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Largo/jennifer-ford/66173976.aspx

Snipped:
Info on Jennifer Ford
Jennifer Ford is associated with Camp Torreya, Inc. with the role of Director. Jennifer Ford has 3 known relationships including Shellie L Andrews, Susan Hoffman and Dinara Newman and is located in Largo, FL.
Source:      Florida Department of State last refreshed Wednesday, June 22, 2011


http://camptorreya.wordpress.com/

Snipped:
Camp Torreya is a 501(c)3 organization that offers summer camp sessions in Florida for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) youth. Our first sessions are coming summer 2011. Learn more about coming …


http://mobile.twitter.com/camptorreya/

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 09:33:34 AM
Much not muck lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 09:37:47 AM
Titch - are you sure that is the same Jennifer Ford?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 09:40:14 AM
Also, not sure what gay or lesbian has to do with an agenda?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: pharlap on July 10, 2011, 09:40:24 AM
Greta will have jury foreman juror number 11 on Monday night

How much is he getting paid???
I won't watch...............
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 09:43:03 AM
Titch - are you sure that is the same Jennifer Ford?

I'm still trying to figure it out. They have several camp directors. She would have been a director in the past, not this year, unless I'm missing it. The JF director listed on corp wiki hails from Largo it looks like. I'm still trying to verify. If anybody can help, just jump right in guys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 09:47:06 AM
Also, not sure what gay or lesbian has to do with an agenda?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407)

ACLU, equal rights, etc. We're all for that anyway. Being gay or lesbian has absolutely nothing at all to do with an agenda. I'm still bothered why Baez made a big deal about that pic of Casey that he said he was "worried it would portray her as a lesbian"... I mean, why would he say that? Florida has a huge population of trans, bi, gay & lesbian. It makes no sense unless he was trying to get to someone on the jury, playing to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 09:49:57 AM
Also, not sure what gay or lesbian has to do with an agenda?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407)

ACLU, equal rights, etc. We're all for that anyway. Being gay or lesbian has absolutely nothing at all to do with an agenda. I'm still bothered why Baez made a big deal about that pic of Casey that he said he was "worried it would portray her as a lesbian"... I mean, why would he say that? Florida has a huge population of trans, bi, gay & lesbian. It makes no sense unless he was trying to get to someone on the jury, playing to them.

AH, ok well back to that pic.  Still not sure how it ties into a motive for killing Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2011, 09:51:56 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/276805/The-other-judge:-Stan-Strickland-shocked-at-Casey-Anthonys-acquittal
The other judge: Stan Strickland shocked at Casey Anthony's acquittal
Stan Strickland, the original judge in the Casey Anthony case, said he is shocked by the verdict, but thinks everyone should respect the jury's decision and move on.
By Jacqueline Fell, Reporter
Last Updated: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:31 AM 
He was the original Orange County judge to hear the
criminal case against Casey Anthony.

But Stan Strickland stepped down more than a year before the trial began, and Chief Judge Belvin Perry took over the case.

Now, with the trial over, Strickland said he was amazed to see how well everything went without a hitch.

But he also admitted he was shocked to see Casey Anthony acquitted of first-degree murder.

"It didn't turn out the way I thought it would, but nothing wrong with that," said Strickland. "I think we need to respect the jury's decision and just move on."

 ::snipping2::

A former judge is "shocked" that Casey Anthony was not convicted of first degree murder.  Yet ... his attitude is to just "respect the jury's decision and just move on."

I wish that Caylee Marie had at least one family/influencial advocate who was "shocked" at the jury's decision but would refuse to move on ... who would make waves in the media ... who would put pressure on "the powers that be" to conduct an investigation into possible jury tampering.

Caylee Marie is worthy!

Janet


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 10, 2011, 09:55:24 AM
LOL...Jerry Springer says he wouldn't interview Casey if HE got paid a million bucks....Hope this is a sign of things to come...

http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/09/casey-anthony-jerry-springer-show-million-dollar-offer/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 09:56:47 AM
I am wondering something, we all know the Anthonys wont sue on behalf of Caylee, but can the Americans sue her in civil court and take all monies and put towards a missing foundation in Fl?

If she is sued in Civil court she can not profit off of Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 09:57:33 AM
Here's what I think...

OH won bc his attorneys played the race card. There was negative distension between LAPD (among other le across our nations) and different ethnicities. There was a huge gap still between blacks & whites, so several African Americans felt vindicated when OJ won an acquittal. Basically, he represented several people that were ever frowned upon and discreminated against just bc they were a certain race.

It bothers me that Geraldo tried plating Baez's race card, but it backfired everytime he brought it up. Maybe there's animosity between the gay/lesbian community and the govt. If so, tgis would be a win for the ACLU. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:03:50 AM
Also, not sure what gay or lesbian has to do with an agenda?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407)

ACLU, equal rights, etc. We're all for that anyway. Being gay or lesbian has absolutely nothing at all to do with an agenda. I'm still bothered why Baez made a big deal about that pic of Casey that he said he was "worried it would portray her as a lesbian"... I mean, why would he say that? Florida has a huge population of trans, bi, gay & lesbian. It makes no sense unless he was trying to get to someone on the jury, playing to them.

AH, ok well back to that pic.  Still not sure how it ties into a motive for killing Caylee. 

No, it doesn't tie into a motive fir killing Caylee. Casey's bi innuendo resonates with many civil liberties groups. They would join forces to push the law. They have ALOT of money. Baez saying the Defense only had thousands of $ compared to the Prosecutios millions is ridiculous. Many people jumped on board his bandwagon.

Think of the professionals that became involved. Think of the famous ones on the Defense. Go through all.

Maybe they weren't defending her bc they thought she was innocent. Maybe they were defending her for other reasons.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:06:16 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/july/276805/The-other-judge:-Stan-Strickland-shocked-at-Casey-Anthonys-acquittal
The other judge: Stan Strickland shocked at Casey Anthony's acquittal
Stan Strickland, the original judge in the Casey Anthony case, said he is shocked by the verdict, but thinks everyone should respect the jury's decision and move on.
By Jacqueline Fell, Reporter
Last Updated: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:31 AM 
He was the original Orange County judge to hear the
criminal case against Casey Anthony.

But Stan Strickland stepped down more than a year before the trial began, and Chief Judge Belvin Perry took over the case.

Now, with the trial over, Strickland said he was amazed to see how well everything went without a hitch.

But he also admitted he was shocked to see Casey Anthony acquitted of first-degree murder.

"It didn't turn out the way I thought it would, but nothing wrong with that," said Strickland. "I think we need to respect the jury's decision and just move on."

 ::snipping2::

A former judge is "shocked" that Casey Anthony was not convicted of first degree murder.  Yet ... his attitude is to just "respect the jury's decision and just move on."

I wish that Caylee Marie had at least one family/influencial advocate who was "shocked" at the jury's decision but would refuse to move on ... who would make waves in the media ... who would put pressure on "the powers that be" to conduct an investigation into possible jury tampering.

Caylee Marie is worthy!

Janet


& a killer is free to walk among us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 10:08:07 AM
IMO Titch, that's a stretch. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 10:11:35 AM
What would be funny not a haha funny...is if Cindy and GA sued Casey in civil court, it would put Cindy back in control of the purse strings,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:13:46 AM
I am wondering something, we all know the Anthonys wont sue on behalf of Caylee, but can the Americans sue her in civil court and take all monies and put towards a missing foundation in Fl?

If she is sued in Civil court she can not profit off of Caylee

I hope so. Did you see my post from this morning? People from all over the nation sent donations, volunteered their time to search, gas & transportation, hotel & food, the list goes on. Casey lied. They made money off of these donations. It was fraud.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:14:28 AM
IMO Titch, that's a stretch. 

Shoot. Well I'm trying...  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 10:19:10 AM
http://www.change.org/petitions/florida-bar-association-and-judge-perry-investigate-casey-anthony-defense-team-ethics?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=autopublish
Florida Bar Association and Judge Perry: Investigate Casey Anthony Defense Team Ethics
 ::snipping2::
The deception, in this case, cost the taxpayer huge sums of money that perhaps could have been avoided and we believe that the involvement of the defense attorneys in this should be investigated. If the attorneys helped to conceal the truth and allowed the taxpayer expense to grow and had been told prior to this expense that this was an accident and concealed that information, then they assisted in, if not legal fraud, at least ethical fraud.

 ::snipping2::
The statements on the petition are well worth reading.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 10:21:49 AM
Titch - since when does anyone listen to me?  I'm often wrong.  Don't let me stop you from looking at all angles  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 10:22:36 AM
I am wondering something, we all know the Anthony's wont sue on behalf of Caylee, but can the Americans sue her in civil court and take all monies and put towards a missing foundation in Fl?

If she is sued in Civil court she can not profit off of Caylee

I hope so. Did you see my post from this morning? People from all over the nation sent donations, volunteered their time to search, gas & transportation, hotel & food, the list goes on. Casey lied. They made money off of these donations. It was fraud.

I have a strong feeling inside that this is far from being over, last night I got up and left the computer very upset that she can not be retried by the supreme courts or federal courts, as I took my shower and cried at justice being denied Caylee, Something started going through my body from the tips of my toes to the end of my hair and I heard a voice saying " Do not dispair I am not done yet". I don't know if its wishful thinking or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
I have a question...

We know Casey can't be tried for Caylee's murder again bc of double jeopardy laws...

However...

She took donations from people all over our country, as well as others, knowing she was lying about her daughter being kidnapped. Casey kept up this farce for a few years. Surely that's intentional misrepresentation of facts in order to commit fraud for profit. Or am I wrong? Surely that could be considered a federal offense since donations were national, heck international...wouldn't it? Isn't there some kind of loophole to keep her behind bars?

THAT is a good point - I'm afraid LE & everyone who "could" do something is afraid to for fear of looking vindictive and going after her because they didn't "win".  I hope I'm wrong.  I pray I'm wrong. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:27:09 AM
IMO Titch, that's a stretch. 

Shoot. Well I'm trying...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Wait a sec... Isn't the ACLU against capital punishment? I thought they wanted to abolish the death penalty.

Could a juror or 2 have been planted that are completely against the dp...maybe lied when they were just part of the jury pull to get on the jury?

Something else, why is this Jennifer so outspoken? She's been interviewed by just about every news outlet. Why didn't she just go to the media room at the courthouse instead? Afterall, with all the cops there, she'd have been protected if she was worried about her safety.

Something is fishy.

She is the only one, so far, that's talked on the record...besides a couple alternates. Juror #2 wouldn't give his name bc he was too afraid. Why isn't Jennifer Ford afraid for her safety like everybody else is saying they are? Is she protected by action committees?

Oh yeah, and she didn't get paid by ABC. Instead she was given a free vacation to Disney for herself & 4 other guests.. I have to wonder who the guests are that she chose to take. Interesting. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 10:27:57 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:29:16 AM
Cappuccino & Turbo ~ where the heck are you?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:30:37 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

People are so damn crazy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: pharlap on July 10, 2011, 10:33:07 AM
http://www.change.org/petitions/florida-bar-association-and-judge-perry-investigate-casey-anthony-defense-team-ethics?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=autopublish
Florida Bar Association and Judge Perry: Investigate Casey Anthony Defense Team Ethics
 ::snipping2::
The deception, in this case, cost the taxpayer huge sums of money that perhaps could have been avoided and we believe that the involvement of the defense attorneys in this should be investigated. If the attorneys helped to conceal the truth and allowed the taxpayer expense to grow and had been told prior to this expense that this was an accident and concealed that information, then they assisted in, if not legal fraud, at least ethical fraud.

 ::snipping2::
The statements on the petition are well worth reading.

Done...............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:34:27 AM
Since ABC & Disney are all for equal rights, and all these advocate groups are pro civil liberties & to abolish the dp, I wonder if as many would go out of their way if the defendant was a member if the kkk. Afterall, the kkk was a huge chapter in Apopka. When I lived in Florida, they'd be in the news having parades...bc it was their right. I wonder is any of these azzwipe lawyers represented a kkk member & worked as hard to "save their life".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Western Observr on July 10, 2011, 10:34:34 AM
If anyone helped search for Caylee Tim Miller wants to hear from you. This message is posted on Twitter by Diane Fanning (author).Contact him at      tim.miller@texasequusearch.org


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 10:35:07 AM
http://www.change.org/petitions/florida-bar-association-and-judge-perry-investigate-casey-anthony-defense-team-ethics?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=autopublish
Florida Bar Association and Judge Perry: Investigate Casey Anthony Defense Team Ethics
 ::snipping2::
The deception, in this case, cost the taxpayer huge sums of money that perhaps could have been avoided and we believe that the involvement of the defense attorneys in this should be investigated. If the attorneys helped to conceal the truth and allowed the taxpayer expense to grow and had been told prior to this expense that this was an accident and concealed that information, then they assisted in, if not legal fraud, at least ethical fraud.

 ::snipping2::
The statements on the petition are well worth reading.
signed and put on my facebook


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: pharlap on July 10, 2011, 10:35:11 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

People are so damn crazy!

I don't believe everything that is put out their.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:35:57 AM
Titch - since when does anyone listen to me?  I'm often wrong.  Don't let me stop you from looking at all angles  ::MonkeyCool::

You know what? It's eating at me. It's just not sitting right.

Still digging...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Red on July 10, 2011, 10:36:49 AM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:39:02 AM
If anyone helped search for Caylee Tim Miller wants to hear from you. This message is posted on Twitter by Diane Fanning (author).Contact him at      tim.miller@texasequusearch.org

Bump!

Thank GOD! Class action here we come! Hopefully people came from all of our states.

Karma suckaz!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 10:39:48 AM
IMO Titch, that's a stretch. 

Shoot. Well I'm trying...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Remember the couple that faked their daughter's cancer and asked for donations.  They were arrested in Feb 2011 & charged with swindling.  I can't find anything that tells the outcome or even if they went to jail.  kind of the same.

http://gwdtoday.com/investigators-couple-faked-childs-cancer-for-money-p23884-1.htm (http://gwdtoday.com/investigators-couple-faked-childs-cancer-for-money-p23884-1.htm)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:41:03 AM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Right, but Christ is a past governor. It's like a president... Since Bush is a past president, he can technically be called President Bush, not Mr. Bush.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 10:41:09 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

People are so damn crazy!
True but Mason calling them simply cowards who knows he might be the first one they get,theres a lot of crazies out there and would not be  bit surprised if someone did get mason, biaze and casey,as for jurors I just wished they would of used their brains


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Babybear on July 10, 2011, 10:43:22 AM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Charlie Crist was the last governor of FL before Gov. Scott.  I believe he is now a member of the Morgan and Morgan law firm.  I think he is still entitled to use the title of Governor.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
That's one way of getting rid of George so ca doesn't have to give him half of everything when he's in jail and ca divorces him.................
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 10:45:51 AM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Charlie Crist was the last governor of FL before Gov. Scott.  I believe he is now a member of the Morgan and Morgan law firm.  I think he is still entitled to use the title of Governor.

You're right!  I was unaware what a large firm Morgan and Morgan is.

http://www.forthepeople.com/our_attorneys.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 10:46:52 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

People are so damn crazy!
True but Mason calling them simply cowards who knows he might be the first one they get,theres a lot of crazies out there and would not be  bit surprised if someone did get mason, biaze and casey,as for jurors I just wished they would of used their brains

On the Joy Behar Show Lippman said one of the threats was "you deserve the same fate that Caylee had".  I know they have to be cautious & take everything seriously but that's reaching if you ask me.  I thought someone had called & said "we're coming to your house with a bazooka".  No - just throwing bad kharma their way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 10:47:59 AM
Titch - since when does anyone listen to me?  I'm often wrong.  Don't let me stop you from looking at all angles  ::MonkeyCool::

You know what? It's eating at me. It's just not sitting right.

Still digging...

I listen you, Klaas, I am wrong all the time, too.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 10, 2011, 10:48:49 AM
I had a sickening thought pop into my head this morning. Why would they give Casey an extra week or so in jail? Well, how long does it take to give a person a new identity? New hair cut/color, new name, bank account, place to live, etc... I'd hate to think that law enforcement would have anything to do with that, but maybe Baez and Mason have concocted some sort of plan to help Casey go into hiding, for her own protection?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:50:11 AM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Charlie Crist was the last governor of FL before Gov. Scott.  I believe he is now a member of the Morgan and Morgan law firm.  I think he is still entitled to use the title of Governor.

You're right!  I was unaware what a large firm Morgan and Morgan is.

http://www.forthepeople.com/our_attorneys.htm

They're huge. They have their section for ambulance chasers but they also have several good, thorough lawyers that are very knowledgable in case law. Big firm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Tevye on July 10, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
Also, not sure what gay or lesbian has to do with an agenda?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407)

ACLU, equal rights, etc. We're all for that anyway. Being gay or lesbian has absolutely nothing at all to do with an agenda. I'm still bothered why Baez made a big deal about that pic of Casey that he said he was "worried it would portray her as a lesbian"... I mean, why would he say that? Florida has a huge population of trans, bi, gay & lesbian. It makes no sense unless he was trying to get to someone on the jury, playing to them.

AH, ok well back to that pic.  Still not sure how it ties into a motive for killing Caylee. 

No, it doesn't tie into a motive fir killing Caylee. Casey's bi innuendo resonates with many civil liberties groups. They would join forces to push the law. They have ALOT of money. Baez saying the Defense only had thousands of $ compared to the Prosecutios millions is ridiculous. Many people jumped on board his bandwagon.

Think of the professionals that became involved. Think of the famous ones on the Defense. Go through all.

Maybe they weren't defending her bc they thought she was innocent. Maybe they were defending her for other reasons.
Titch, I respect your work. However, in this case, you may be chasing a red herring. These days, it's quite common for girls to dance together, even suggestively. The boys like it. It doesn't mean anyone is bi or lesbian...it just means there was enough booze and great music that they just had to dance!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 10:50:43 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/07/2305907_p2/casey-anthony-juror-says-the-jury.html)
In an interview with ABC News Wednesday night, juror Jennifer Ford was of the same mind.

“There wasn’t enough evidence,” said Ford, who was Juror No. 3. “I don’t think anyone in America can tell us how she died. We have no idea.”

“It was a heartbreaking decision to have to make but I had to do it based on the law . . .” she told ABC News. “You have to prove what happened, and then I’ll give Caylee justice.”

I want to know wth is wrong with this person!!!!!!

You can't fix stupid.

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/jenny8.jpg)

Just look at her, and she is in her peak years. It don't get no better than this! ::monkeywine2::

She has definitely earned this.... (http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee161/ignitetheairwaves85/dumbass_award.jpg)

bump - cuz I just wanted to award Jennifer twice.

Her mouth should be declared a State park because it is opened 24 hours a day. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Babybear on July 10, 2011, 10:50:46 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

People are so damn crazy!
True but Mason calling them simply cowards who knows he might be the first one they get,theres a lot of crazies out there and would not be  bit surprised if someone did get mason, biaze and casey,as for jurors I just wished they would of used their brains

Good morning, Monkeys

It seems to me that if Mason is receiving death threats, he would turn them all over to the police.  He says they turned one over to LE.  Maybe they did turn them all over--a total of one. IMO the defense team is a lot more impressed with themselves than anybody else is.  They didn't win that case.  The jury consisted of a bunch of dolts, most of whom shouldn't even have been accepted to sit on a jury, much less judge an important case such as the brutal murder of a child. Thanks, Judge Perry.

I also believe their names should be made public.  This is the united States of America.  We don't have secret trials and secret juries.  At least we aren't supposed to but since few in government either respect or follow the Constitution, nothing would surprise me anymore after the past couple of years of government trampling on our rights and ignoring our Constitution.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:51:00 AM
Titch - since when does anyone listen to me?  I'm often wrong.  Don't let me stop you from looking at all angles  ::MonkeyCool::

You know what? It's eating at me. It's just not sitting right.

Still digging...

I listen you, Klaas, I am wrong all the time, too.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I heart you monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 10:52:37 AM
I had a sickening thought pop into my head this morning. Why would they give Casey an extra week or so in jail? Well, how long does it take to give a person a new identity? New hair cut/color, new name, bank account, place to live, etc... I'd hate to think that law enforcement would have anything to do with that, but maybe Baez and Mason have concocted some sort of plan to help Casey go into hiding, for her own protection?

My sweet husband is trying to make me feel better (maybe he just wants home cooked meal again LOL).  He's saying he thinks the extra time is a ploy to give LE time to gather evidence in other crimes she's committed.  I don't agree but I can dream!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 10:54:01 AM
Heyyy! Just thought of sumpin! I wonder if Casey will still love monkeys when everything's said & done...

 ::boxingcasey2::  ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: anothermonkey on July 10, 2011, 10:55:26 AM
I had a sickening thought pop into my head this morning. Why would they give Casey an extra week or so in jail? Well, how long does it take to give a person a new identity? New hair cut/color, new name, bank account, place to live, etc... I'd hate to think that law enforcement would have anything to do with that, but maybe Baez and Mason have concocted some sort of plan to help Casey go into hiding, for her own protection?

My sweet husband is trying to make me feel better (maybe he just wants home cooked meal again LOL).  He's saying he thinks the extra time is a ploy to give LE time to gather evidence in other crimes she's committed.  I don't agree but I can dream!
I prefer your husband's scenario!  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Tevye on July 10, 2011, 10:55:28 AM
Heyyy! Just thought of sumpin! I wonder if Casey will still love monkeys when everything's said & done...

 ::boxingcasey2::  ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::boxingcasey2::

::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::
 ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2::

I don't think so!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Ono on July 10, 2011, 10:56:10 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 10:59:09 AM
Cappuccino & Turbo ~ where the heck are you?

Turbo?
Cappy?
Blink?
                     [r they all on vacation?]   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 10:59:27 AM
I had a sickening thought pop into my head this morning. Why would they give Casey an extra week or so in jail? Well, how long does it take to give a person a new identity? New hair cut/color, new name, bank account, place to live, etc... I'd hate to think that law enforcement would have anything to do with that, but maybe Baez and Mason have concocted some sort of plan to help Casey go into hiding, for her own protection?
I really dont see this happening due to if she did then she wouldnt be able to tell her story, and we all know Casey loves attention she wouldnt get the attention loves, and sooner or later she would come out on her own or someone would rat her out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 11:06:48 AM
Can they not charge her for disposing of a body wrongfully? I forget what it is called,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Babybear on July 10, 2011, 11:08:51 AM
I had a sickening thought pop into my head this morning. Why would they give Casey an extra week or so in jail? Well, how long does it take to give a person a new identity? New hair cut/color, new name, bank account, place to live, etc... I'd hate to think that law enforcement would have anything to do with that, but maybe Baez and Mason have concocted some sort of plan to help Casey go into hiding, for her own protection?
I really dont see this happening due to if she did then she wouldnt be able to tell her story, and we all know Casey loves attention she wouldnt get the attention loves, and sooner or later she would come out on her own or someone would rat her out.

Oh, I don't think they gave her extra time.  I think it's another example of catering to Casey.  All of those people together figuring up her time made a mistake?  I don't think so.  I think this is just another hoax to get her out of jail on Wednesday without anyone knowing and then on Sunday announce that she's gone.  If I were a betting person, which btw I am, I'd bet on it.  Out by Wednesday.  Maybe already out.  Wouldn't surprise me. 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 11:09:17 AM
Also, not sure what gay or lesbian has to do with an agenda?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Camp-Torreya/145483462157407)

ACLU, equal rights, etc. We're all for that anyway. Being gay or lesbian has absolutely nothing at all to do with an agenda. I'm still bothered why Baez made a big deal about that pic of Casey that he said he was "worried it would portray her as a lesbian"... I mean, why would he say that? Florida has a huge population of trans, bi, gay & lesbian. It makes no sense unless he was trying to get to someone on the jury, playing to them.

AH, ok well back to that pic.  Still not sure how it ties into a motive for killing Caylee. 

No, it doesn't tie into a motive fir killing Caylee. Casey's bi innuendo resonates with many civil liberties groups. They would join forces to push the law. They have ALOT of money. Baez saying the Defense only had thousands of $ compared to the Prosecutios millions is ridiculous. Many people jumped on board his bandwagon.

Think of the professionals that became involved. Think of the famous ones on the Defense. Go through all.

Maybe they weren't defending her bc they thought she was innocent. Maybe they were defending her for other reasons.
Titch, I respect your work. However, in this case, you may be chasing a red herring. These days, it's quite common for girls to dance together, even suggestively. The boys like it. It doesn't mean anyone is bi or lesbian...it just means there was enough booze and great music that they just had to dance!

Oh I agree. Also, I don't think Casey was bi, which is beside the point, but it's gotten to me that Baez chose those words. It's as if "lesbian" portrays would be negative. It isn't, not in the least, especially in today's day & time. But why did he choose those words? Was he playing the reverse psychology with the Prosecution so they'd go that route to admit that pic?

That picture is the last picture the Prosecution used in their closing statement, along with the tattoo. It's obvious to most of us that Cindy made Casey keep Caylee and controlled that whole household. I have no doubt that Casey was put down & frowned upon in private by her mother, but in the public Casey was her virginal pristine princess that did nothing wrong. Maybe Casey had no freedom under Cindy's thumb, so she lied. Who knows.

If there was anybody on that jury that was ever forced into something they didn't want to do, felt discreminated against, felt held back from their freedom, pressured into lying about who they are or what they should represent vs who they really are - then they could relate to Casey & feel sympathy for her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 10, 2011, 11:09:49 AM
I found this here http://www.mileylegal.com/blog/casey-anthony-can-be-tried-again.cfm

Did You Know that Casey Anthony CAN be Tried in Court AGAIN?

Did you know that Casey Anthony could possibly still face a civil courtroom? While I can't speak to Florida's laws, I can say that in West Virginia, a court appointed representative of Caylee Anthony can initiate a civil action in court to pursue a civil claim against Casey Anthony hoping that a verdict will be returned against her.  Such a verdict would prevent Ms. Anthony from ever profiting for what many believe to be her intentional and illegal activities, as well as, forever holding her accountable for the death of her daughter, Caylee. 

interesting reading

This is what many people said from the start..that Caylee needed a court appointed guardian throughout this whole mess to look out for her interests and see that justice was done.

That's why I feel we need a children's justice fund in this country that serves for the children, who like Caylee, do not receive justice in court.  We have watchdog agencies for every race, religion and civic agenda ready to jump at a moments notice..but where are the advocates for children in civil cases?

If Florida would appoint an advocate for Caylee they could sue in civil court and win..just like with OJ. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

People are so damn crazy!
True but Mason calling them simply cowards who knows he might be the first one they get,theres a lot of crazies out there and would not be  bit surprised if someone did get mason, biaze and casey,as for jurors I just wished they would of used their brains

Good morning, Monkeys

It seems to me that if Mason is receiving death threats, he would turn them all over to the police.  He says they turned one over to LE.  Maybe they did turn them all over--a total of one. IMO the defense team is a lot more impressed with themselves than anybody else is.  They didn't win that case.  The jury consisted of a bunch of dolts, most of whom shouldn't even have been accepted to sit on a jury, much less judge an important case such as the brutal murder of a child. Thanks, Judge Perry.

I also believe their names should be made public.  This is the united States of America.  We don't have secret trials and secret juries.  At least we aren't supposed to but since few in government either respect or follow the Constitution, nothing would surprise me anymore after the past couple of years of government trampling on our rights and ignoring our Constitution.

Very well said!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 11:14:14 AM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 11:16:05 AM
I had a sickening thought pop into my head this morning. Why would they give Casey an extra week or so in jail? Well, how long does it take to give a person a new identity? New hair cut/color, new name, bank account, place to live, etc... I'd hate to think that law enforcement would have anything to do with that, but maybe Baez and Mason have concocted some sort of plan to help Casey go into hiding, for her own protection?

My sweet husband is trying to make me feel better (maybe he just wants home cooked meal again LOL).  He's saying he thinks the extra time is a ploy to give LE time to gather evidence in other crimes she's committed.  I don't agree but I can dream!
I prefer your husband's scenario!  ::justice2NJ::

Me too!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 11:19:18 AM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.
ITA I'm 1/2 Cherokee and 1/2 Irish I have always heard this myself all my life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 11:19:55 AM
I had a sickening thought pop into my head this morning. Why would they give Casey an extra week or so in jail? Well, how long does it take to give a person a new identity? New hair cut/color, new name, bank account, place to live, etc... I'd hate to think that law enforcement would have anything to do with that, but maybe Baez and Mason have concocted some sort of plan to help Casey go into hiding, for her own protection?
I really dont see this happening due to if she did then she wouldnt be able to tell her story, and we all know Casey loves attention she wouldnt get the attention loves, and sooner or later she would come out on her own or someone would rat her out.

Oh, I don't think they gave her extra time.  I think it's another example of catering to Casey.  All of those people together figuring up her time made a mistake?  I don't think so.  I think this is just another hoax to get her out of jail on Wednesday without anyone knowing and then on Sunday announce that she's gone.  If I were a betting person, which btw I am, I'd bet on it.  Out by Wednesday.  Maybe already out.  Wouldn't surprise me. 



I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 11:23:59 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

I don't believe a word of that..............he is full of crap and this is for more publicity for media shows. I can see where George would want to kill KC & Cindy but other than that I believe most people believe it is not over yet and do not see violence as an option.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Red on July 10, 2011, 11:26:20 AM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Right, but Christ is a past governor. It's like a president... Since Bush is a past president, he can technically be called President Bush, not Mr. Bush.

Yea, but it makes no difference whether Crist likes the legislation. I t is a bigger deal whether Scott backs it. Crist got crushed in the 2010 US Senate race in FLA. Just saying that I would much prefer discussions with the present GOV, not Crist.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 11:29:33 AM
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 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::monkeywine2:: ::MonkeyDevil::

This woman is an example of our pitiful educational system. She is so ignorant it is embarrassing. If I were her parent I would smack the crap out of her for being so stupid. Folks, you are seeing the results of the "dumbing down" of our educational system. They have no concept of justice or how the Rule of Law works. I hold the judge responsible for not taking the time to explain the way juries are to decide a case. Ignorance is no excuse and obviously these people have about the understanding of a 4th grader when it comes to US Government and the process.

<<<............Off my soapbox for a few minutes about our uneducated youth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 11:32:35 AM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Right, but Christ is a past governor. It's like a president... Since Bush is a past president, he can technically be called President Bush, not Mr. Bush.

Yea, but it makes no difference whether Crist likes the legislation. I t is a bigger deal whether Scott backs it. Crist got crushed in the 2010 US Senate race in FLA. Just saying that I would much prefer discussions with the present GOV, not Crist.

I am sure Rick Scott would not be opposed, but Christ is still powerful in Florida particularly in the prosecutor's offices. He was Attorney General prior to being Governor and would be a great advocate for this law. I personally do not like him but that does not make him inconsequential.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Red on July 10, 2011, 11:33:35 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

I don't believe a word of that..............he is full of crap and this is for more publicity for media shows. I can see where George would want to kill KC & Cindy but other than that I believe most people believe it is not over yet and do not see violence as an option.

Any atty who is so unprofessional as to give the middle finger and be such a hypocrite as so make comments about the media, when he was doing the same thing prior to becoming a part of TEAM Casey, has no credibility. Throw in an atty that went along with Baez's opening statement of molestation knowing they would never call Casey to the stand to present such evidence. He is so FOS.

For all the folks that said Cheney Mason was some great atty ... I would beg to differ. He is a gas bag.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 11:34:56 AM
IMOO This is why they need to release names of jurors:

Oops: Florida Man Incorrectly Identified As Casey Anthony Juror, Contacted By GMA

http://www.mediaite.com/online/awkward-florida-man-incorrectly-identified-as-casey-anthony-juror-contacted-by-gma/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 10, 2011, 11:35:26 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey (http://twitter.com/#!/cfnews13casey)
CFNews13Casey Casey Anthony News13
A civil rights group wants a law to protect jurors' identities in light of the #caseyanthony trial: http://goo.gl/epzft
9 hours ago

See what I am talking about exactly..a civil rights group now to protect jurors..right..their adults they made their decision,,it's not may fault they ran off like whipped dogs with their tails beneath their legs.

Where the heck is the civil rights group for children who are denied justice in court?

This just burns my butt..adults protecting other adults..where are the adults that should protect the people who need it the most in our society and can not speak for themselves..the children!

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: lilme on July 10, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
I found this here http://www.mileylegal.com/blog/casey-anthony-can-be-tried-again.cfm

Did You Know that Casey Anthony CAN be Tried in Court AGAIN?

Did you know that Casey Anthony could possibly still face a civil courtroom? While I can't speak to Florida's laws, I can say that in West Virginia, a court appointed representative of Caylee Anthony can initiate a civil action in court to pursue a civil claim against Casey Anthony hoping that a verdict will be returned against her.  Such a verdict would prevent Ms. Anthony from ever profiting for what many believe to be her intentional and illegal activities, as well as, forever holding her accountable for the death of her daughter, Caylee. 

interesting reading

This is what many people said from the start..that Caylee needed a court appointed guardian throughout this whole mess to look out for her interests and see that justice was done.

That's why I feel we need a children's justice fund in this country that serves for the children, who like Caylee, do not receive justice in court.  We have watchdog agencies for every race, religion and civic agenda ready to jump at a moments notice..but where are the advocates for children in civil cases?

If Florida would appoint an advocate for Caylee they could sue in civil court and win..just like with OJ. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::
Maybe that could be Mr. Ashtons next job!! He would do a great job.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on July 10, 2011, 11:37:35 AM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.

Osiyo and Good morning Turbo,
I do wonder if the possible (Elisi) GrandMother Maclean (sp?) will have the right to have the DNA tested to establish if she is or is not Caylee's biological GrandMother? If the counsel for Casey is or continues to block the test from being done there leaves probability (not simple possibility) that she is in fact Caylee's (Elisi) GrandMother and would that then not open the door for a civil suit against not only Casey but also potentially other members of the Anthony Family for committing perjury on the stand?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TexasBarMom on July 10, 2011, 11:38:40 AM

This woman is an example of our pitiful educational system. She is so ignorant it is embarrassing. If I were her parent I would smack the crap out of her for being so stupid. Folks, you are seeing the results of the "dumbing down" of our educational system. They have no concept of justice or how the Rule of Law works. I hold the judge responsible for not taking the time to explain the way juries are to decide a case. Ignorance is no excuse and obviously these people have about the understanding of a 4th grader when it comes to US Government and the process.

<<<............Off my soapbox for a few minutes about our uneducated youth.
ITA Turbo.  Also I believe it has been pointed out, in FL, anyone with a driver's license can be called to jury duty. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 10, 2011, 11:39:34 AM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/07/09/gretas-exclusive-interview-with-casey-anthony-jury-foreman/
Greta’s Exclusive Interview With Casey Anthony Jury Foreman
by On the Record Posted in: Casey Anthony, Greta Van Susteren   
Monday, Greta will get an exclusive interview with the jury foreman from the Casey Anthony trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 11:43:36 AM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/07/09/gretas-exclusive-interview-with-casey-anthony-jury-foreman/
Greta’s Exclusive Interview With Casey Anthony Jury Foreman
by On the Record Posted in: Casey Anthony, Greta Van Susteren   
Monday, Greta will get an exclusive interview with the jury foreman from the Casey Anthony trial.

That should be really interesting NOT the person will only repeat the same crap the others have said..We didnt know who killed her etc sickening


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 10, 2011, 11:44:53 AM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=137743828
Verdict Brought Few Answers In Caylee Anthony Case
by The Associated Press
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. July 10, 2011, 10:26 am ET

Many of the thousands who followed the Casey Anthony trial did not get the guilty verdict they wanted, nor did they learn the truth about what happened to the 2-year-old daughter she was accused of murdering.

And for the public, that may be one of the most frustrating parts of the case: Despite all the speculation and theories, they will never know how or why Caylee Anthony died.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Red on July 10, 2011, 11:45:33 AM
IMOO This is why they need to release names of jurors:

Oops: Florida Man Incorrectly Identified As Casey Anthony Juror, Contacted By GMA

http://www.mediaite.com/online/awkward-florida-man-incorrectly-identified-as-casey-anthony-juror-contacted-by-gma/

Among many other reasons. I am sorry but Democracy is not easy. We cannot just pick and choose what parts of the US Constitutions we like and dislike, much like what Judge Perry is kind of doing. It saddens me because I generally like JP but he has made some comments during this trial and jury selection that gave me pause for concern that he was a lib judge that legislated from the Bench.

If we are supposed to accept the Jury system, we are also supposed to except Freedom or Speech and of the Press. The USA is not supposed to be a hidden society where people make decisions and re held in protection. If that is the case, then the very jury selection is a farce.

How are juror names protected, yet they can also go out and exploit the cases for profit and gain?

I do not believe in violence; however, it needs to be known by any juror that you might just have to explain yourself one day. Otherwise, we will have decisions like in this murder trial happen all the time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: pharlap on July 10, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.

Osiyo and Good morning Turbo,
I do wonder if the possible (Elisi) GrandMother Maclean (sp?) will have the right to have the DNA tested to establish if she is or is not Caylee's biological GrandMother? If the counsel for Casey is or continues to block the test from being done there leaves probability (not simple possibility) that she is in fact Caylee's (Elisi) GrandMother and would that then not open the door for a civil suit against not only Casey but also potentially other members of the Anthony Family for committing perjury on the stand?

Never thought of that...Was thinking she wanted 5 minutes of fame, bad me.
If she is, IF she does this, have to wait and see.
 ::geraldodance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2011, 11:48:16 AM
I found this here http://www.mileylegal.com/blog/casey-anthony-can-be-tried-again.cfm

Did You Know that Casey Anthony CAN be Tried in Court AGAIN?

Did you know that Casey Anthony could possibly still face a civil courtroom? While I can't speak to Florida's laws, I can say that in West Virginia, a court appointed representative of Caylee Anthony can initiate a civil action in court to pursue a civil claim against Casey Anthony hoping that a verdict will be returned against her.  Such a verdict would prevent Ms. Anthony from ever profiting for what many believe to be her intentional and illegal activities, as well as, forever holding her accountable for the death of her daughter, Caylee. 

interesting reading

This is what many people said from the start..that Caylee needed a court appointed guardian throughout this whole mess to look out for her interests and see that justice was done.

That's why I feel we need a children's justice fund in this country that serves for the children, who like Caylee, do not receive justice in court.  We have watchdog agencies for every race, religion and civic agenda ready to jump at a moments notice..but where are the advocates for children in civil cases?

If Florida would appoint an advocate for Caylee they could sue in civil court and win..just like with OJ. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::


I could be wrong but ... I thought it was the family's of the victims who successfully won the civil suit against OJ Simpson.

Janet

+++++++


A former judge involved with the case is "shocked" that Casey Anthony was not convicted of first degree murder.  Yet ... his attitude is to "respect the jury's decision and just move on."

I wish that Caylee Marie had at least one family/influencial advocate who was "shocked" at the jury's decision but would refuse to move on ... who would make waves in the media ... who would put pressure on "the powers that be" to conduct an investigation into possible jury tampering.

Caylee Marie is worthy!

Janet




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Red on July 10, 2011, 11:50:00 AM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/07/09/gretas-exclusive-interview-with-casey-anthony-jury-foreman/
Greta’s Exclusive Interview With Casey Anthony Jury Foreman
by On the Record Posted in: Casey Anthony, Greta Van Susteren   
Monday, Greta will get an exclusive interview with the jury foreman from the Casey Anthony trial.

That should be really interesting NOT the person will only repeat the same crap the others have said..We didnt know who killed her etc sickening

If we do hear the same BS mantra that will make me believe that there was a stealth juror in there with an agenda to gum up the verdict.

I had heard a comment the other day that I had completely forgot about. Remember going back to the jury selection, not one individual had said if they had an opinion about the case that Casey was not guilty. One person who made it to the jury even said that he/she thought Casey was guilty but would be able to keep an open mind. What happened during this trial that would have made such a person with a preconceived notion of guilt to suddenly allow Casey to walk on all major charges?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 11:50:20 AM
IMOO This is why they need to release names of jurors:

Oops: Florida Man Incorrectly Identified As Casey Anthony Juror, Contacted By GMA

http://www.mediaite.com/online/awkward-florida-man-incorrectly-identified-as-casey-anthony-juror-contacted-by-gma/

Among many other reasons. I am sorry but Democracy is not easy. We cannot just pick and choose what parts of the US Constitutions we like and dislike, much like what Judge Perry is kind of doing. It saddens me because I generally like JP but he has made some comments during this trial and jury selection that gave me pause for concern that he was a lib judge that legislated from the Bench.

If we are supposed to accept the Jury system, we are also supposed to except Freedom or Speech and of the Press. The USA is not supposed to be a hidden society where people make decisions and re held in protection. If that is the case, then the very jury selection is a farce.

How are juror names protected, yet they can also go out and exploit the cases for profit and gain?

I do not believe in violence; however, it needs to be known by any juror that you might just have to explain yourself one day. Otherwise, we will have decisions like in this murder trial happen all the time.
I agree, they didn't seal names from OJ trial so don't think its right to seal these jurors


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2011, 11:52:38 AM
IMOO This is why they need to release names of jurors:

Oops: Florida Man Incorrectly Identified As Casey Anthony Juror, Contacted By GMA

http://www.mediaite.com/online/awkward-florida-man-incorrectly-identified-as-casey-anthony-juror-contacted-by-gma/

Among many other reasons. I am sorry but Democracy is not easy. We cannot just pick and choose what parts of the US Constitutions we like and dislike, much like what Judge Perry is kind of doing. It saddens me because I generally like JP but he has made some comments during this trial and jury selection that gave me pause for concern that he was a lib judge that legislated from the Bench.

If we are supposed to accept the Jury system, we are also supposed to except Freedom or Speech and of the Press. The USA is not supposed to be a hidden society where people make decisions and re held in protection. If that is the case, then the very jury selection is a farce.

How are juror names protected, yet they can also go out and exploit the cases for profit and gain?

I do not believe in violence; however, it needs to be known by any juror that you might just have to explain yourself one day. Otherwise, we will have decisions like in this murder trial happen all the time.


 ::rhino::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Ono on July 10, 2011, 11:54:45 AM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Crist joined the firm after his election defeat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 10, 2011, 11:59:45 AM
I am wondering something, we all know the Anthonys wont sue on behalf of Caylee, but can the Americans sue her in civil court and take all monies and put towards a missing foundation in Fl?

If she is sued in Civil court she can not profit off of Caylee

I hope so. Did you see my post from this morning? People from all over the nation sent donations, volunteered their time to search, gas & transportation, hotel & food, the list goes on. Casey lied. They made money off of these donations. It was fraud.

Titch back in the beginning of this saga I worked with Blink on a team that followed the money from day one.

The money did not go to Casey or her team..it went to George, Cindy and Lee.  It was supposed to be funneled into a non  profit..that of course they were on the board and paid by.  They used the money to pay themselves as board members and others on the board.  It was very shady so they came up with another non profit..just as shady..same scene.  However this money was sent to look for Caylee and other missing children.  Which of course paid for the gas so George could drive the mobile billboard around and say he was looking for Caylee. It was ugly and shameful..but it didn't go to Casey..it went to support the A's and their friends the Milsteads. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: ZooMomology on July 10, 2011, 12:00:19 PM
Can they not charge her for disposing of a body wrongfully? I forget what it is called,

I just awoke due to a dream, very vivid, STATE OF FLORIDA CHARGES CASEY ANTHONY WITH IMPROPER DISPOSAL OF A CORPSE. 

Wishthful thinking I guess.  Ran here to see if true. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 10, 2011, 12:01:49 PM
Just an FYI.. if any of you here are members of facebook.. there is a video going around that says.. Leaked video.. Casey Anthony confessing to lawyers. I DID NOT click on it. I am sure its spam or a virus because 2 of the people who I went to school with have it up and I KNOW they didnt post it. Just be careful what you may click on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Ono on July 10, 2011, 12:02:21 PM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Right, but Christ is a past governor. It's like a president... Since Bush is a past president, he can technically be called President Bush, not Mr. Bush.

Yea, but it makes no difference whether Crist likes the legislation. I t is a bigger deal whether Scott backs it. Crist got crushed in the 2010 US Senate race in FLA. Just saying that I would much prefer discussions with the present GOV, not Crist.

I am sure Rick Scott would not be opposed, but Christ is still powerful in Florida particularly in the prosecutor's offices. He was Attorney General prior to being Governor and would be a great advocate for this law. I personally do not like him but that does not make him inconsequential.

True.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: texasmom on July 10, 2011, 12:02:51 PM
IMOO This is why they need to release names of jurors:

Oops: Florida Man Incorrectly Identified As Casey Anthony Juror, Contacted By GMA

http://www.mediaite.com/online/awkward-florida-man-incorrectly-identified-as-casey-anthony-juror-contacted-by-gma/

Among many other reasons. I am sorry but Democracy is not easy. We cannot just pick and choose what parts of the US Constitutions we like and dislike, much like what Judge Perry is kind of doing. It saddens me because I generally like JP but he has made some comments during this trial and jury selection that gave me pause for concern that he was a lib judge that legislated from the Bench.

If we are supposed to accept the Jury system, we are also supposed to except Freedom or Speech and of the Press. The USA is not supposed to be a hidden society where people make decisions and re held in protection. If that is the case, then the very jury selection is a farce.

How are juror names protected, yet they can also go out and exploit the cases for profit and gain?

I do not believe in violence; however, it needs to be known by any juror that you might just have to explain yourself one day. Otherwise, we will have decisions like in this murder trial happen all the time.

I agree!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 12:05:47 PM
Can they not charge her for disposing of a body wrongfully? I forget what it is called,

I just awoke due to a dream, very vivid, STATE OF FLORIDA CHARGES CASEY ANTHONY WITH IMPROPER DISPOSAL OF A CORPSE. 

Wishthful thinking I guess.  Ran here to see if true. 
We can always hope and pray right


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: pharlap on July 10, 2011, 12:07:52 PM
Just an FYI.. if any of you here are members of facebook.. there is a video going around that says.. Leaked video.. Casey Anthony confessing to lawyers. I DID NOT click on it. I am sure its spam or a virus because 2 of the people who I went to school with have it up and I KNOW they didnt post it. Just be careful what you may click on.

Tks, good to know... ::geraldodance::

Btw, pic's of Atlantis landing  today here..

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11360.new#new (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11360.new#new)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: ZooMomology on July 10, 2011, 12:08:28 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

People are so damn crazy!

IMO, the only thing that is crazy to me is that they are broadcasting their threats.  They need to just do their threats and shut up, LOL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 10, 2011, 12:08:47 PM
I am not sure of this, but maybe someone who saw Jennfier being iinterviewed caught it.
I was doing a walk by of the tv last night one week and it was a clip. She mentioned Nancy Grace as being one of the programs that gave out some incorrect information. ??
Thought these peeps didn't follow the case much and were unaware of all  of or most of the media.
Another thing, the stealth juror might be the one that is the chef who is holding out for big bucks. He is used to beng in the media, maybe he wants to use this case as a platform to advance a cooking show or his career.
I am not making the accusation, just that there is something not right about his entire situation. Holding out for 50,000.00 and who is paying it ?
I have to run, but I did do the Simon and Shuster thing about Cindy's book. And there is more that I can do sitting right here on my azz that requires very little effort.
If Jeff Ashton wrote a book, I would buy it. If he ran for office, I can't vote, but I would like to.
I also want the media to get her compentency report unselaed, it's the Sunshine State. She was so angry, we saw the pix of her snarling like the devil or a person posessed, and then Mason called the porceedings to a halt. WTF was that all about, I want to know and asking any of those azzhats isn't going to reveal any truth, just some legal jibber jabber and no answers.
BBL, I got to run for a while.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 10, 2011, 12:15:02 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

You know what is so weird about these death threats is that the first I heard about death threats was from Lippman on HLN or In Sessions  talking to one of the pundits saying..not the pone calls..didn't mention phone calls..I could swear he said they received faxes and it was coming from bloggers.  I laughed because Cindy has always had it in for what she terms bloggers..
And when asked how he knew it was bloggers was when he said we have the faxes, we have the phone numbers right on the faxes and know who it is.  Well right..I know phone numbers show on faxes..everyone who ever used a fax does..so why would bloggers fax death threats?  It is just preposterous.  Then the story changed to it was phone threats..

And if Cindy and George went into hiding immediately why was there such a LE presence at their house and in their neighborhood right afterwards..to guard who..what?

None of that makes anymore sense then the defense's arguments..it is just to ramp up publicity for their talk show appearances and memoirs.  I do not think anyone would threaten them in that manner. 

And if they know who did this why isn't the FBI arresting them..death threats over a fax or phone would be considered terrorist in nature and are a Federal offense.  Isn't there some Federal offense for making this crap up?  I guess they weren't concerned enough to give the names and phone numbers to LE huh..or someone would have been arrested.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: tcumom on July 10, 2011, 12:15:44 PM
Just an FYI.. if any of you here are members of facebook.. there is a video going around that says.. Leaked video.. Casey Anthony confessing to lawyers. I DID NOT click on it. I am sure its spam or a virus because 2 of the people who I went to school with have it up and I KNOW they didnt post it. Just be careful what you may click on.
It showed up on the Porch Lights On For Caylee Facebook page .
Now that entire facebook page is down .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2011, 12:17:32 PM

I have a hinky feeling that the verdict was a given prior to Day 1 of the trial ... prior to the opening statements of the the prosecution and defence.

Titch ... keep digging hon.

I gone for the day.  Life outside the computer room beckons.

Have a good Sunday all.

 ::HelloKitty::

Janet
9:14 AM PT



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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 10, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
Anthony Lazzaro roomate was on Fox & Freinds this morning saying that he was pushing Caylee's law and was working with Morgan & Morgan to draft legislation.

Don't mean to be a stickler for detail, but he said that Gov. Crist was behind the law, um, the only problem with that is the Florida Gov is Rick Scott.
http://www.flgov.com/


Red,

Govenor Crist is no onger governor..you're right..but he works at Morgan &Morgan now. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 12:18:20 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/07/09/gretas-exclusive-interview-with-casey-anthony-jury-foreman/
Greta’s Exclusive Interview With Casey Anthony Jury Foreman
by On the Record Posted in: Casey Anthony, Greta Van Susteren    
Monday, Greta will get an exclusive interview with the jury foreman from the Casey Anthony trial.

That should be really interesting NOT the person will only repeat the same crap the others have said..We didnt know who killed her etc sickening

I will be interested in how many times he uses the phrases the defense used. It is almost like they have a "cheat sheet" like politicians do which gives them the words to use. I have noticed the same rhetoric being used so far. Sounds very suspicious to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 12:22:18 PM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.

Osiyo and Good morning Turbo,
I do wonder if the possible (Elisi) GrandMother Maclean (sp?) will have the right to have the DNA tested to establish if she is or is not Caylee's biological GrandMother? If the counsel for Casey is or continues to block the test from being done there leaves probability (not simple possibility) that she is in fact Caylee's (Elisi) GrandMother and would that then not open the door for a civil suit against not only Casey but also potentially other members of the Anthony Family for committing perjury on the stand?

Never thought of that...Was thinking she wanted 5 minutes of fame, bad me.
If she is, IF she does this, have to wait and see.
 ::geraldodance::

The new granny should reconsider not getting a DNA test.  Cindy may want her to pay for Caylee's hospital bills.  I think if she is
the other grandmother, she should help-out paying Caylee's (birth) Hospital Bills.  The new granny thinks (reportly) KC is innocent.
Well she should invite to stay with her :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: KCJackie on July 10, 2011, 12:23:09 PM
If anyone helped search for Caylee Tim Miller wants to hear from you. This message is posted on Twitter by Diane Fanning (author).Contact him at      tim.miller@texasequusearch.org

Bump!

Thank GOD! Class action here we come! Hopefully people came from all of our states.

Karma suckaz!

 ::boxingcasey2:: ::boxingcasey2::   

::rhino:: I went to FL (from Missouri) for the second search (NOV 08) search was called off the day I arrived.  Plane tickets (2) were not cheap since it was a spur of the moment decision.  Not to mention spending $300 on Popeyes Chicken to be delivered to the search site.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: KittyMom on July 10, 2011, 12:23:31 PM
http://allieiswired.com/archives/2011/07/kristen-stewart-stop-with-the-casey-anthony-comparisons/
Kristen Stewart: ‘Stop With the Casey Anthony Comparisons!’
 

Quote
As far as portraying Anthony in a movie.

“She would never for no amount of money portray that girl. It’s grossing her out. All those entertainment shows are doing polls and what not and she just wants it to stop!”
 

 ::boxingcasey2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 12:24:45 PM
I had a sickening thought pop into my head this morning. Why would they give Casey an extra week or so in jail? Well, how long does it take to give a person a new identity? New hair cut/color, new name, bank account, place to live, etc... I'd hate to think that law enforcement would have anything to do with that, but maybe Baez and Mason have concocted some sort of plan to help Casey go into hiding, for her own protection?
I really dont see this happening due to if she did then she wouldnt be able to tell her story, and we all know Casey loves attention she wouldnt get the attention loves, and sooner or later she would come out on her own or someone would rat her out.

Oh, I don't think they gave her extra time.  I think it's another example of catering to Casey.  All of those people together figuring up her time made a mistake?  I don't think so.  I think this is just another hoax to get her out of jail on Wednesday without anyone knowing and then on Sunday announce that she's gone.  If I were a betting person, which btw I am, I'd bet on it.  Out by Wednesday.  Maybe already out.  Wouldn't surprise me. 



I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

As angry as all of us are, just think about those OC police officers who have to look out for her well being.  OMG...they must be soooooo pizzzzzzzzzzed. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 12:25:04 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/07/09/gretas-exclusive-interview-with-casey-anthony-jury-foreman/
Greta’s Exclusive Interview With Casey Anthony Jury Foreman
by On the Record Posted in: Casey Anthony, Greta Van Susteren    
Monday, Greta will get an exclusive interview with the jury foreman from the Casey Anthony trial.

That should be really interesting NOT the person will only repeat the same crap the others have said..We didnt know who killed her etc sickening

I will be interested in how many times he uses the phrases the defense used. It is almost like they have a "cheat sheet" like politicians do which gives them the words to use. I have noticed the same rhetoric being used so far. Sounds very suspicious to me.
And if you watch juror #3 she will not look the person in the eyes her eyes are everywhere but on the guy;s face to me this is telling she is lying about something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 12:26:25 PM

I have a hinky feeling that the verdict was a given prior to Day 1 of the trial ... prior to the opening statements of the the prosecution and defence.

Titch ... keep digging hon.

I gone for the day.  Life outside the computer room beckons.

Have a good Sunday all.

 ::HelloKitty::

Janet
9:14 AM PT



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"Yea, she cleaned out everyone pocket's, except ours"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Babybear on July 10, 2011, 12:28:34 PM

This woman is an example of our pitiful educational system. She is so ignorant it is embarrassing. If I were her parent I would smack the crap out of her for being so stupid. Folks, you are seeing the results of the "dumbing down" of our educational system. They have no concept of justice or how the Rule of Law works. I hold the judge responsible for not taking the time to explain the way juries are to decide a case. Ignorance is no excuse and obviously these people have about the understanding of a 4th grader when it comes to US Government and the process.

<<<............Off my soapbox for a few minutes about our uneducated youth.
ITA Turbo.  Also I believe it has been pointed out, in FL, anyone with a driver's license can be called to jury duty. 

Yes, anyone with a driver's license, but it is the judge's duty to weed out the incompetents, not go out of his way to find them and seat them on the jury.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 12:29:06 PM
Cappuccino & Turbo ~ where the heck are you?

Turbo?
Cappy?
Blink?
                     [r they all on vacation?]   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I think people are spending time with their families.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Gypsy DD on July 10, 2011, 12:29:30 PM
I found this here http://www.mileylegal.com/blog/casey-anthony-can-be-tried-again.cfm

Did You Know that Casey Anthony CAN be Tried in Court AGAIN?

Did you know that Casey Anthony could possibly still face a civil courtroom? While I can't speak to Florida's laws, I can say that in West Virginia, a court appointed representative of Caylee Anthony can initiate a civil action in court to pursue a civil claim against Casey Anthony hoping that a verdict will be returned against her.  Such a verdict would prevent Ms. Anthony from ever profiting for what many believe to be her intentional and illegal activities, as well as, forever holding her accountable for the death of her daughter, Caylee. 

interesting reading

This is what many people said from the start..that Caylee needed a court appointed guardian throughout this whole mess to look out for her interests and see that justice was done.

That's why I feel we need a children's justice fund in this country that serves for the children, who like Caylee, do not receive justice in court.  We have watchdog agencies for every race, religion and civic agenda ready to jump at a moments notice..but where are the advocates for children in civil cases?

If Florida would appoint an advocate for Caylee they could sue in civil court and win..just like with OJ. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::


I could be wrong but ... I thought it was the family's of the victims who successfully won the civil suit against OJ Simpson.

Janet

+++++++


A former judge involved with the case is "shocked" that Casey Anthony was not convicted of first degree murder.  Yet ... his attitude is to "respect the jury's decision and just move on."

I wish that Caylee Marie had at least one family/influencial advocate who was "shocked" at the jury's decision but would refuse to move on ... who would make waves in the media ... who would put pressure on "the powers that be" to conduct an investigation into possible jury tampering.

Caylee Marie is worthy!

Janet




It was Janet, the family that brought the civil case against OJ..but Caylee has no one in her family with the guts to go up against Casey and Cindy...and that is very sad.

That is why there needs to be either a court appointed guardian or some activist group that takes up the banner and takes Casey and the A's to court in a civil suit.  Heck if the jurors are saying now they didn't know rather it was Casey or the A's responsible for Caylee at the time she was murdered then someone needs to make them responsible.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 10, 2011, 12:30:25 PM
Just an FYI.. if any of you here are members of facebook.. there is a video going around that says.. Leaked video.. Casey Anthony confessing to lawyers. I DID NOT click on it. I am sure its spam or a virus because 2 of the people who I went to school with have it up and I KNOW they didnt post it. Just be careful what you may click on.
It showed up on the Porch Lights On For Caylee Facebook page .
Now that entire facebook page is down .


Yikes!   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 12:35:20 PM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.

Osiyo and Good morning Turbo,
I do wonder if the possible (Elisi) GrandMother Maclean (sp?) will have the right to have the DNA tested to establish if she is or is not Caylee's biological GrandMother? If the counsel for Casey is or continues to block the test from being done there leaves probability (not simple possibility) that she is in fact Caylee's (Elisi) GrandMother and would that then not open the door for a civil suit against not only Casey but also potentially other members of the Anthony Family for committing perjury on the stand?

Yes, it is in progress as we sit here today. ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 12:36:40 PM
http://allieiswired.com/archives/2011/07/kristen-stewart-stop-with-the-casey-anthony-comparisons/
Kristen Stewart: ‘Stop With the Casey Anthony Comparisons!’
 

Quote
As far as portraying Anthony in a movie.

“She would never for no amount of money portray that girl. It’s grossing her out. All those entertainment shows are doing polls and what not and she just wants it to stop!”
 

 ::boxingcasey2::

She does not have that big ole bulb nose KC has and those fat cheeks. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/07/09/gretas-exclusive-interview-with-casey-anthony-jury-foreman/
Greta’s Exclusive Interview With Casey Anthony Jury Foreman
by On the Record Posted in: Casey Anthony, Greta Van Susteren   
Monday, Greta will get an exclusive interview with the jury foreman from the Casey Anthony trial.

That should be really interesting NOT the person will only repeat the same crap the others have said..We didnt know who killed her etc sickening

Might be worth observing though. Those good with body language could report back what they saw or thought they saw. I plan to study this person.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2011, 12:37:03 PM

This is the third alternate who has come forward and mimicked Baez's opening and closing statements.  Think about it.  These alternates did not deliberate yet they are one with the 12 jurors who did.

What are the chances of randomly selected twelve jurors and alternates whose postions are ALL contrary to the court of public opinion.

Something is not right.  At some time outside of the courtroom setting ... somebody instructed/influence/persuaded this group to disregard the prosecution's case.  IMO

Janet   

Janet something is definitely not right here..a teacher who is a mandated reporter did not think this looked like even aggravated negligence or agaravated child abuse when all the evidence leads back to the mother.



Baez stated in his closing arguments that Casey was innocent of all the State's charges except for the lies to authorities and ... in a little more than ten hours of deliberation all 12 jurors concurred and ... three alternates have concurred without any deliberation.

Its magical!

Janet

TURBOTHINK  ... cheat sheet?

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on July 10, 2011, 12:38:11 PM


The new granny should reconsider not getting a DNA test.  Cindy may want her to pay for Caylee's hospital bills.  I think if she is
the other grandmother, she should help-out paying Caylee's (birth) Hospital Bills.  The new granny thinks (reportly) KC is innocent.
Well she should invite to stay with her :)
[/quote]

http://www.necn.com/07/05/11/bNew-England-bCaylee-Anthonys-grandmothe/landing.html?blockID=539397&feedID=4206

I think it would be fair to attribute the likely GrandMother's reaction to her suffering through the greiving process, all over again.
My heart goes out to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 12:42:28 PM
Just an FYI.. if any of you here are members of facebook.. there is a video going around that says.. Leaked video.. Casey Anthony confessing to lawyers. I DID NOT click on it. I am sure its spam or a virus because 2 of the people who I went to school with have it up and I KNOW they didnt post it. Just be careful what you may click on.
It showed up on the Porch Lights On For Caylee Facebook page .
Now that entire facebook page is down .


Yikes!   ::MonkeyEek::

More info on it

http://www.technobitez.com/social-network/breaking-news-leaked-video-of-casey-anthony-confessing-to-lawyer-facebook-scam (http://www.technobitez.com/social-network/breaking-news-leaked-video-of-casey-anthony-confessing-to-lawyer-facebook-scam)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 12:47:34 PM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.

Osiyo and Good morning Turbo,
I do wonder if the possible (Elisi) GrandMother Maclean (sp?) will have the right to have the DNA tested to establish if she is or is not Caylee's biological GrandMother? If the counsel for Casey is or continues to block the test from being done there leaves probability (not simple possibility) that she is in fact Caylee's (Elisi) GrandMother and would that then not open the door for a civil suit against not only Casey but also potentially other members of the Anthony Family for committing perjury on the stand?

Never thought of that...Was thinking she wanted 5 minutes of fame, bad me.
If she is, IF she does this, have to wait and see.
 ::geraldodance::

The new granny should reconsider not getting a DNA test.  Cindy may want her to pay for Caylee's hospital bills.  I think if she is
the other grandmother, she should help-out paying Caylee's (birth) Hospital Bills.  The new granny thinks (reportly) KC is innocent.
Well she should invite to stay with her :)

How did you get the idea that Donna MacLean thinks Casey is innocent?  Just curious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 10, 2011, 12:47:40 PM
Just an FYI.. if any of you here are members of facebook.. there is a video going around that says.. Leaked video.. Casey Anthony confessing to lawyers. I DID NOT click on it. I am sure its spam or a virus because 2 of the people who I went to school with have it up and I KNOW they didnt post it. Just be careful what you may click on.
It showed up on the Porch Lights On For Caylee Facebook page .
Now that entire facebook page is down .


Yikes!   ::MonkeyEek::

More info on it

http://www.technobitez.com/social-network/breaking-news-leaked-video-of-casey-anthony-confessing-to-lawyer-facebook-scam (http://www.technobitez.com/social-network/breaking-news-leaked-video-of-casey-anthony-confessing-to-lawyer-facebook-scam)


Thanks Klass.. I hardly EVER click on links on FB.. I can usually tell what is BS or what is the real deal.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: StarMonkey on July 10, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
Hi ! I still cant get over the verdict never will.

This Photo Stands IN MY Mind. Was this a gesture to someone Before the verdict? this is Jose Baez Hours Before the Verdict HAPPY ? Gunslinging? Both Happy and a threat?

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/Sallie1233/sfe.jpg)


2 Jurors voted Guilty then said on the record they reluctantly withdrew it.

I really really feel Baez Made this Verdict Happen NOT by his defesnse team But By Tampering with the Jury! In My Opinion!

& IF LEE Anthony was ANY Kind of Human Bieng He would go to the feds and get justice for Caylee be a hero. But I doubt it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: StarMonkey on July 10, 2011, 12:57:06 PM
Hi ! I still cant get over the verdict never will.

This Photo Stands IN MY Mind. Was this a gesture to someone Before the verdict? this is Jose Baez Hours Before the Verdict HAPPY ? Gunslinging? Both Happy and a threat?

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/Sallie1233/sfe.jpg)


2 Jurors voted Guilty then said on the record they reluctantly withdrew it.

I really really feel Baez Made this Verdict Happen NOT by his defesnse team But By Tampering with the Jury! In My Opinion!

& IF LEE Anthony was ANY Kind of Human Bieng He would go to the feds and get justice for Caylee be a hero. But I doubt it!

What Attorney that failed this bad in court- Prosecution is so strong! Evidence is there Does this HOURS Before the verdict?!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: karenmamo on July 10, 2011, 12:58:20 PM
Seahorse and all monkeys:  I just saw that clip about Donna stating she always felt Casey was innocent.
Oh my.
Is it possible she does not feel Casey was innocent.?
She would have no way to get close to Cindy if she said the opposite.
After saying, I always thought....blah blah...she added on with, 'I DID.'
Also she was speaking in past tense...I always felt...ok
Donna is also Native American.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: StarMonkey on July 10, 2011, 12:59:01 PM
Hi ! I still cant get over the verdict never will.

This Photo Stands IN MY Mind. Was this a gesture to someone Before the verdict? this is Jose Baez Hours Before the Verdict HAPPY ? Gunslinging? Both Happy and a threat?

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/Sallie1233/sfe.jpg)


2 Jurors voted Guilty then said on the record they reluctantly withdrew it.

I really really feel Baez Made this Verdict Happen NOT by his defesnse team But By Tampering with the Jury! In My Opinion!

& IF LEE Anthony was ANY Kind of Human Bieng He would go to the feds and get justice for Caylee be a hero. But I doubt it!

What Attorney that failed this bad in court- Prosecution is so strong! Evidence is there Does this HOURS Before the verdict?!


This is Why, Motive! IMO the Love of his LIFE Money Ticket!

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/Sallie1233/jojy.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: StarMonkey on July 10, 2011, 01:00:16 PM
Hi ! I still cant get over the verdict never will.

This Photo Stands IN MY Mind. Was this a gesture to someone Before the verdict? this is Jose Baez Hours Before the Verdict HAPPY ? Gunslinging? Both Happy and a threat?

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/Sallie1233/sfe.jpg)


2 Jurors voted Guilty then said on the record they reluctantly withdrew it.

I really really feel Baez Made this Verdict Happen NOT by his defesnse team But By Tampering with the Jury! In My Opinion!

& IF LEE Anthony was ANY Kind of Human Bieng He would go to the feds and get justice for Caylee be a hero. But I doubt it!

What Attorney that failed this bad in court- Prosecution is so strong! Evidence is there Does this HOURS Before the verdict?!


This is Why, Motive! IMO the Love of his LIFE Money Ticket!

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/Sallie1233/jojy.jpg)


OPPS sorry this is Why
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/Sallie1233/dvrvbrtb.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Titch on July 10, 2011, 01:04:02 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 01:09:50 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 10, 2011, 01:09:55 PM
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28502087/detail.html
'Casey Confession Video' Plagues Facebook
POSTED: 12:28 pm EDT July 10, 2011
UPDATED: 12:37 pm EDT July 10, 2011


Read more: http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28502087/detail.html#ixzz1RitXVUQM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: KittyMom on July 10, 2011, 01:12:32 PM
http://www.oyetimes.com/news/america/12445-bill-maher-compares-gop-to-casey-anthony-trial-july-9-2011

Understand this, I do not agree with this guy's political views, but even he sees that she is guilty.

Quote
"If you can look at a crime where everything points to one answer and not see it, you're a dumbass.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 10, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
http://www.theboot.com/2011/07/08/song-for-caylee-anthony-shes-going-places/ (http://www.theboot.com/2011/07/08/song-for-caylee-anthony-shes-going-places/)

"Cledus told his listeners on Tampa Bay's WQYK radio this morning that he hopes the song will help focus the attention back on the precious little girl and away from the trial. Listen to 'She's Going Places' below."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: KittyMom on July 10, 2011, 01:15:59 PM
So, exactly how many of the jurors got a 'free pass' to DisneyWorld?  Really, they only gave one juror a pass?  I'm not buying it.  I want to know how they managed to find out who #3 was in order to arrange this activity?  Something stinks in the Sunfire and the jury room.

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 01:19:15 PM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.

Osiyo and Good morning Turbo,
I do wonder if the possible (Elisi) GrandMother Maclean (sp?) will have the right to have the DNA tested to establish if she is or is not Caylee's biological GrandMother? If the counsel for Casey is or continues to block the test from being done there leaves probability (not simple possibility) that she is in fact Caylee's (Elisi) GrandMother and would that then not open the door for a civil suit against not only Casey but also potentially other members of the Anthony Family for committing perjury on the stand?

Never thought of that...Was thinking she wanted 5 minutes of fame, bad me.
If she is, IF she does this, have to wait and see.
 ::geraldodance::

The new granny should reconsider not getting a DNA test.  Cindy may want her to pay for Caylee's hospital bills.  I think if she is
the other grandmother, she should help-out paying Caylee's (birth) Hospital Bills.  The new granny thinks (reportly) KC is innocent.
Well she should invite to stay with her :)

How did you get the idea that Donna MacLean thinks Casey is innocent?  Just curious.

Karenmamo,

I am sorry I did not include the link. 


(NECN: Julie Loncich, Rutland, Mass.) -

 Casey Anthony of Florida has been found not guilty of killing her two-year-old daughter.

There is a Massachusetts connection to this story. Donna MacLean of Rutland claims to be Caylee Anthony's grandmother.

"I was really happy for her. I just started crying for her. I felt for her, I really did," says MacLean.

Donna MacLean may be a thousands of miles away from the courtroom drama in Orlando, but sitting in her Rutland, Massachusetts home, she is emotionally torn.
 
"I always felt she was innocent, I did," says MacLean.
Maclean says she is almost certain her now-deceased son, Michael Duggan, is Caylee Anthony's father. As Caylee's grandmother she says she's devastated she'll never meet the little girl, but stands by Casey Anthony.
 
"I feel bad for her, I don't even think she's had time to grieve," says MacLean.

 ::snipping2::
 
I can post the remaining article because of copyright laws.


http://www.necn.com/07/05/11/bNew-England-bCaylee-Anthonys-grandmothe/landing.html?blockID=539397&feedID=4206


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 01:21:50 PM
self-edit:  I can not post the remainding of the article on DM because of copyright laws.

http://www.necn.com/07/05/11/bNew-England-bCaylee-Anthonys-grandmothe/landing.html?blockID=539397&feedID=4206


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: KittyMom on July 10, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/fl-anthony-verdict-forum-20110710,0,5720174.story

Justice prevailed in the Casey Anthony case
Quote
People were picketing the restaurant where Casey's entourage was celebrating the verdict, but they should have been picketing prosecutor Jeff Ashton's house or the investigators' house.

 ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::   ::MonkeyMad::
I'm sending this jerk an email telling him just what an azzhat he is.  Then I'm sending an email to his editor letting them know that while admirable that they are willing to hire the intellectually challenged, he would be more successful cleaning the toilets.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 01:25:50 PM
Seahorse and all monkeys:  I just saw that clip about Donna stating she always felt Casey was innocent.
Oh my.
Is it possible she does not feel Casey was innocent.?
She would have no way to get close to Cindy if she said the opposite.
After saying, I always thought....blah blah...she added on with, 'I DID.'
Also she was speaking in past tense...I always felt...ok
Donna is also Native American.

IKD but I think she should focus her energy on Caylees law, don't you?  The DNA test (if she takes one) may open-up
more pain and agony.  I found "let sleeping dogs lie" because, if you wake them up, they may bite you!  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 10, 2011, 01:26:17 PM
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/online-lynch-mob-led-casey-anthonys-defense-team-1587923.html (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/online-lynch-mob-led-casey-anthonys-defense-team-1587923.html)

"Amy Singer calls the Casey Anthony trial "the social media trial of the century."

As jury consultant for Anthony's defense team, she should know.

As part of her duties, she oversaw an army of people who monitored social media around the clock, gauging how the sordid case of an Orlando woman accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter was playing in the digital world."

The article as a whole is interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: trimmonthelake on July 10, 2011, 01:27:09 PM
http://inthearena.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/10/house-fighting-to-give-caylee-anthony-the-justice-that-the-court-system-failed-to-give-her/
House: Fighting to give Caylee Anthony 'the justice that the court system failed to give her'
Posted by:
Jay Kernis - Senior Producer July 10th, 2011
08:05 AM ET

ONLY ON THE BLOG: Answering today's OFF-SET questions is Clint House, the former roommate of Casey Anthony's ex-boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro. House, who knew Casey and her murdered daughter, Caylee,  testified for the prosecution at her murder trial.

House has joined Michelle Crowder and Change.org's petition drive to create Caylee's Law. The goal is to make it a felony to not report your child under the age of 18 missing after 24 hours.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: yuknomenot on July 10, 2011, 01:28:24 PM
 ::HelloKitty::  I need a favor please.  I thought I saved the picture of Casey under the Christmas tree when she was approximately 4.   If anyone has that picture, could you please post it here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3221.40 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3221.40) , TIA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 10, 2011, 01:34:19 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"






Verdict at 2:15, remainder of day at Disneyland. How did Disney/ABC get the info to the jurors about expense paid vacation to Disneyland?

Baez also tried to give them gifts and a Deputy caught and stopped it.

What is going on here? ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: TURBOTHINK on July 10, 2011, 01:37:40 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"






Verdict at 2:15, remainder of day at Disneyland. How did Disney/ABC get the info to the jurors about expense paid vacation to Disneyland?

Baez also tried to give them gifts and a Deputy caught and stopped it.

What is going on here? ::MonkeyNoNo::


This is way out of hand. HOW did ABC know the verdict was coming down? COLLUSION WITH JURORS? I would like to see this thoroughly investigated and the officials at ABC charged as well as the jurors. It would not be that hard to investigate.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 01:40:25 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"






Verdict at 2:15, remainder of day at Disneyland. How did Disney/ABC get the info to the jurors about expense paid vacation to Disneyland?

Baez also tried to give them gifts and a Deputy caught and stopped it.

What is going on here? ::MonkeyNoNo::




I thought that was a joke about Baez trying to give out gifts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: klaasend on July 10, 2011, 01:42:45 PM
::HelloKitty::  I need a favor please.  I thought I saved the picture of Casey under the Christmas tree when she was approximately 4.   If anyone has that picture, could you please post it here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3221.40 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3221.40) , TIA!

done  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6139/5922373859_1e543b5a26_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 10, 2011, 01:42:54 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"






Verdict at 2:15, remainder of day at Disneyland. How did Disney/ABC get the info to the jurors about expense paid vacation to Disneyland?

Baez also tried to give them gifts and a Deputy caught and stopped it.

What is going on here? ::MonkeyNoNo::


This is way out of hand. HOW did ABC know the verdict was coming down? COLLUSION WITH JURORS? I would like to see this thoroughly investigated and the officials at ABC charged as well as the jurors. It would not be that hard to investigate.




Why didn't the court inform the public that the "media packets given to jurors" included "free vacations to Disneyworld?"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 10, 2011, 01:44:48 PM
Does anyone think it is strange that the defense table was full for the verdict. I heard Rosalie Bolin (jury consultant, spouse to death row murderer) was in the court room also. Being a jury consultant that just seemed strange to me. I do think there are some things that morning that seemed like Bozo knew they fix was in although they surely mixed up and bored a jury with their part of the trial. I am hoping a juror will crack and tell the truth if so. Bozo, shooting his fingers at the camera that morning hours before verdict was reached, smiling at the defense table, etc. I just think someone got to them because how can that many be too ignorant to figure out this case. I look at the evidence given in the trial and it was there for a lesser charge maybe but "not guilty" is a disgrace.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/casey-anthony-death-threats-lawyers-jurors-jury-cheney-mason-caylee-anthony-murder-trail-not-guilty-verdict/)

Casey Anthony and Jurors Targeted by Death Threats

7/10/2011 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Someone is threatening to kill Casey Anthony, her lawyers, and the jurors who found her 'not guilty'  of murdering her daughter -- this according to Casey's attorney Cheney Mason.

Mason tells TMZ  his team has been receiving "all kinds of threats" at his office since the controversial verdict came in ... including "one we just turned over to law enforcement."

There are reports Casey's parents are also being targeted and have gone into hiding.

 ::snipping2::

You know what is so weird about these death threats is that the first I heard about death threats was from Lippman on HLN or In Sessions  talking to one of the pundits saying..not the pone calls..didn't mention phone calls..I could swear he said they received faxes and it was coming from bloggers.  I laughed because Cindy has always had it in for what she terms bloggers..
And when asked how he knew it was bloggers was when he said we have the faxes, we have the phone numbers right on the faxes and know who it is.  Well right..I know phone numbers show on faxes..everyone who ever used a fax does..so why would bloggers fax death threats?  It is just preposterous.  Then the story changed to it was phone threats..

And if Cindy and George went into hiding immediately why was there such a LE presence at their house and in their neighborhood right afterwards..to guard who..what?

None of that makes anymore sense then the defense's arguments..it is just to ramp up publicity for their talk show appearances and memoirs.  I do not think anyone would threaten them in that manner. 

And if they know who did this why isn't the FBI arresting them..death threats over a fax or phone would be considered terrorist in nature and are a Federal offense.  Isn't there some Federal offense for making this crap up?  I guess they weren't concerned enough to give the names and phone numbers to LE huh..or someone would have been arrested.

He was on Joy Berhar & she asked what the death threats said.  He said "you deserve the same fate that Caylee had".  Joy even said "that's a death threat"?  I think they're blowing this whole thing out of proportion for more sympathy and it would certainly make for a whole chapter in her book.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 10, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"

Anytime you win trips, merchandise such as on game shows you are taxed. To me that is no different than money changing hands. This is disgusting.





Verdict at 2:15, remainder of day at Disneyland. How did Disney/ABC get the info to the jurors about expense paid vacation to Disneyland?

Baez also tried to give them gifts and a Deputy caught and stopped it.

What is going on here? ::MonkeyNoNo::


This is way out of hand. HOW did ABC know the verdict was coming down? COLLUSION WITH JURORS? I would like to see this thoroughly investigated and the officials at ABC charged as well as the jurors. It would not be that hard to investigate.




Why didn't the court inform the public that the "media packets given to jurors" included "free vacations to Disneyworld?"


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: yuknomenot on July 10, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
::HelloKitty::  I need a favor please.  I thought I saved the picture of Casey under the Christmas tree when she was approximately 4.   If anyone has that picture, could you please post it here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3221.40 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3221.40) , TIA!

done  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6139/5922373859_1e543b5a26_o.jpg)
Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Yoder1 on July 10, 2011, 01:47:27 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"






Verdict at 2:15, remainder of day at Disneyland. How did Disney/ABC get the info to the jurors about expense paid vacation to Disneyland?

Baez also tried to give them gifts and a Deputy caught and stopped it.

What is going on here? ::MonkeyNoNo::




I thought that was a joke about Baez trying to give out gifts.



I can't find this, but I know there were several posts regarding it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 01:47:36 PM
OK this puzzle is coming together for me.    ::MonkeyRoll::

Do you remember Bozo's photo, where he looked like the "cat that ate the mouse"?

He had a very satisfied or a contented facial expression, (I believe) before the verdict was read. 

Did he have a hand in some persuasive "treat's" for the Jury members?

IDK how I can put this delicately and still try to get my point across.

IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 10, 2011, 01:49:37 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"

Anytime you win trips, merchandise such as on game shows you are taxed. To me that is no different than money changing hands. This is disgusting.





Verdict at 2:15, remainder of day at Disneyland. How did Disney/ABC get the info to the jurors about expense paid vacation to Disneyland?

Baez also tried to give them gifts and a Deputy caught and stopped it.

What is going on here? ::MonkeyNoNo::


This is way out of hand. HOW did ABC know the verdict was coming down? COLLUSION WITH JURORS? I would like to see this thoroughly investigated and the officials at ABC charged as well as the jurors. It would not be that hard to investigate.




Why didn't the court inform the public that the "media packets given to jurors" included "free vacations to Disneyworld?"

Not sure what happened to my post but when you win trips, merchandise on game shows you have to pay taxes on that. To me that is cash value exchanged. This is disgusting!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 01:51:05 PM
How could we find out when the airline flights were booked for Disney?   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 10, 2011, 01:51:16 PM
::HelloKitty::  I need a favor please.  I thought I saved the picture of Casey under the Christmas tree when she was approximately 4.   If anyone has that picture, could you please post it here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3221.40 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3221.40) , TIA!

done  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6139/5922373859_1e543b5a26_o.jpg)
Thank you!

That like totally freaks me out! She is crazy looking!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 01:51:20 PM
I came across this site & noticed something I haven't seen anywhere else...yet:

(This is the main site)
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/

(This is after clicking on subtitle "Why ABC?")
http://www.keepcaseybroke.com/why-abc.html

Quote:
Juror Jennifer Ford was treated to a Disneyworld vacation by ABC after she provided them with the only real juror interview so far.  Other members of the jury were treated to the same vacation, so we should expect to be hearing interviews from them soon.  After a period of time, Jurors from high profile trials are allowed to accept monetary payment for interviews, before that time period has passed however, it is illegal for them to provide interviews and information for profit.  This is why ABC exclaims that "no money exchanged hands". But isn't Disneyworld for an interview still payment?

I feel it was a bribe for a NG verdict, how many students and families can afford a trip to disney world? And then for them to give verdict at 2:15 then spend rest of the day with 4 family members at disney something isnt right. money if im not mistaken can be in the form of "gifts"






Verdict at 2:15, remainder of day at Disneyland. How did Disney/ABC get the info to the jurors about expense paid vacation to Disneyland?

Baez also tried to give them gifts and a Deputy caught and stopped it.

What is going on here? ::MonkeyNoNo::


This is way out of hand. HOW did ABC know the verdict was coming down? COLLUSION WITH JURORS? I would like to see this thoroughly investigated and the officials at ABC charged as well as the jurors. It would not be that hard to investigate.




Why didn't the court inform the public that the "media packets given to jurors" included "free vacations to Disneyworld?"

We're headed to disney next month and our bill is $5600 for three people.  That's air, room, parks etc.  Now granted we're staying inside the park on the monorail because I have a bad back but still.  That' s for THREE people! (we haven't been on vacation in quite awhile & have been saving)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: StarMonkey on July 10, 2011, 01:54:46 PM
Does anyone think it is strange that the defense table was full for the verdict. I heard Rosalie Bolin (jury consultant, spouse to death row murderer) was in the court room also. Being a jury consultant that just seemed strange to me. I do think there are some things that morning that seemed like Bozo knew they fix was in although they surely mixed up and bored a jury with their part of the trial. I am hoping a juror will crack and tell the truth if so. Bozo, shooting his fingers at the camera that morning hours before verdict was reached, smiling at the defense table, etc. I just think someone got to them because how can that many be too ignorant to figure out this case. I look at the evidence given in the trial and it was there for a lesser charge maybe but "not guilty" is a disgrace.

Maybe Baez Bribed Gaurds too? It could happen! something did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: mymonkey on July 10, 2011, 01:55:35 PM
Good Morning

Had to take a break from posting but still was here reading.

I have to share something with you all...please don't think I'm BANANAS...

Yesterday as I was sitting on my patio having a smoke with my Mom and talking about how beautiful Caylee was and how we would have loved her and HOW STUPID the Jurors are my oldest daughter came out to join us when she sees something and tells me, "Mom, don't look or move", she runs back in the house goes out in front of the patio and picks something up with a paper towel. About 10 minutes later my youngest comes to me and gives me a hug and tells me, "Mom, see Caylee is letting you know she is ok', I ask her, "Why, she said that?" , she said, " Because pb jr found the 3 pieces of duct tape."

I've been at PEACE since then.  ::MonkeyAngel::

pb

That is sweet but I am one quarter Cherokee and we don't believe the soul can rest until the death is avenged. Under the old Blood Law, the clan of the murdered Cherokee was responsible for revenge. Many times even going to war over a wrongful death. (I believe in our own way by petitions, calls, etc. we are going to war over this wrongful death)

The soul cannot rest until the death is set right and the murderer held accountable. I think we saw the Almighty making us aware that this was not over with the lightening at the remains site.

Turbo--If you are one-fourth Cherokee, then you should own a piece of Harrah's in Cherokee NC.  I'll be contributing to that endeavor next week. Just my little contribution to the wellbeing of our Native Americans.

I'm not sure about the Almighty and the lightening, but if I were a member of the defense team or an Anthony, I think I'd be a bit nervous in a thunderstorm.

Lightening never strikes twice in the same place...the tree being struck gives me hope that the second strike will be for KC and justice will be served for Caylee.  I truly think that our heavenly father has a bigger plan and justice will be served not only for Caylee but other children as well.

Look how we the people have pulled together and signed a petition for Caylee's Law..all things are in perfect timing ::justice2NJ::.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2011, 01:55:53 PM
By the look of the pictures I think Bozo knew IMO
(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18514044022.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379860/1083272)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18515064993.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379975/4243969)

Bozo looks like the cat who ate the mouse :)

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/Baez-finger-guns-0705_rdax_676x456.BMP)

Yep, I agree! Nice pic of Baez the morning of the verdict. since this pic was taken before the NG verdict was read, I think he knew.



This is the photo (as we all remember it) - I am not being pushing, really I'm not.  It is just makes so much dog-on sense now.
That expression is too self-satisfied. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 01:56:26 PM
I have just found this site wonder if this would apply to this case anyone know?

Trial and Try again: When is a Retrial a Good Idea?
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Susan M. Brazas for Lawyers.com

Many people assume that once a trial is over, the case is done once and for all. However, sometimes cases can be retried.

Reasons for re-trial include attorney misconduct or mistrial in the original trial, or an error which made the trial unfair. How a second trial turns out can't be predicted with certainty.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Basics/Trial-and-Try-again-When-is-a-Retrial-a-Good-Idea.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: AZSunny on July 10, 2011, 02:01:52 PM
By the look of the pictures I think Bozo knew IMO
(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18514044022.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379860/1083272)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18515064993.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379975/4243969)

Bozo looks like the cat who ate the mouse :)

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/Baez-finger-guns-0705_rdax_676x456.BMP)

Yep, I agree! Nice pic of Baez the morning of the verdict. since this pic was taken before the NG verdict was read, I think he knew.



This is the photo (as we all remember it) - I am not being pushing, really I'm not.  It is just makes so much dog-on sense now.
That expression is too self-satisfied. IMO

I have wondered since this video came out if this was camera monitored by the courthouse guards (hung on wall) , or was it for one of the TV stations?  Just wondering how this video was released.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: serenity/4thekids on July 10, 2011, 02:01:58 PM
OK this puzzle is coming together for me.    ::MonkeyRoll::

Do you remember Bozo's photo, where he looked like the "cat that ate the mouse"?

He had a very satisfied or a contented facial expression, (I believe) before the verdict was read. 

Did he have a hand in some persuasive "treat's" for the Jury members?

IDK how I can put this delicately and still try to get my point across.

IMO


It's quite telling for sure because when I first saw it, I thought it was AFTER the verdict until it was pointed out here that it was BEFORE. Something's wrong here!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 02:03:54 PM
OK this puzzle is coming together for me.    ::MonkeyRoll::

Do you remember Bozo's photo, where he looked like the "cat that ate the mouse"?

He had a very satisfied or a contented facial expression, (I believe) before the verdict was read. 

Did he have a hand in some persuasive "treat's" for the Jury members?

IDK how I can put this delicately and still try to get my point across.

IMO


It's quite telling for sure because when I first saw it, I thought it was AFTER the verdict until it was pointed out here that it was BEFORE. Something's wrong here!

wait wait wait - I thought this was before the verdict OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: lilme on July 10, 2011, 02:03:57 PM
I have just found this site wonder if this would apply to this case anyone know?

Trial and Try again: When is a Retrial a Good Idea?
Text Size:


Susan M. Brazas for Lawyers.com

Many people assume that once a trial is over, the case is done once and for all. However, sometimes cases can be retried.

Reasons for re-trial include attorney misconduct or mistrial in the original trial, or an error which made the trial unfair. How a second trial turns out can't be predicted with certainty.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Basics/Trial-and-Try-again-When-is-a-Retrial-a-Good-Idea.html
Wouldn't Bobos misconduct and lies in his opening statement be a basis  for this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: OriginalKat on July 10, 2011, 02:04:57 PM
By the look of the pictures I think Bozo knew IMO
(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18514044022.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379860/1083272)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18515064993.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379975/4243969)

Bozo looks like the cat who ate the mouse :)

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/Baez-finger-guns-0705_rdax_676x456.BMP)

Yep, I agree! Nice pic of Baez the morning of the verdict. since this pic was taken before the NG verdict was read, I think he knew.



This is the photo (as we all remember it) - I am not being pushing, really I'm not.  It is just makes so much dog-on sense now.
That expression is too self-satisfied. IMO

Good pics and I think Sims looks like the cat who at the mouse Look at her mouth.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: flamom on July 10, 2011, 02:05:04 PM
Hi Monks!
I still find myself sighing deeply and shaking my head.
I went back and watched Cindy in her first TV appearances when caylee was 'missing', with Greta and Geraldo. She is such a lying evil monster. She KNEW Caylee was dead and KC did it even then, before the cover ups, deception and defending her monster. She vehemently did NOT want to talk about KC so 'get up off your asses and go look for Caylee.' She is a disgusting excuse for a human being and I am tired of hearing people on TV feel empathy for her. She makes me as sick as her murdering daughter. Lee and George are just collateral damage..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: beth1970 on July 10, 2011, 02:05:06 PM
I have just found this site wonder if this would apply to this case anyone know?

Trial and Try again: When is a Retrial a Good Idea?
Text Size:


Susan M. Brazas for Lawyers.com

Many people assume that once a trial is over, the case is done once and for all. However, sometimes cases can be retried.

Reasons for re-trial include attorney misconduct or mistrial in the original trial, or an error which made the trial unfair. How a second trial turns out can't be predicted with certainty.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Basics/Trial-and-Try-again-When-is-a-Retrial-a-Good-Idea.html

Great link!  here's another excerpt

"A basic principle of fairness in our justice system is that no one should face double jeopardy, meaning no one should be subject to punishment twice for the same crime. If a person is found not guilty after a trial, the prosecutor doesn't usually get a second chance to have another trial.

A retrial is only granted if there were serious errors in the original trial requiring a reversal of the verdict, and the court finds that a new trial should take place. "


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09/11
Post by: StarMonkey on July 10, 2011, 02:09:03 PM
By the look of the pictures I think Bozo knew IMO
(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18514044022.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379860/1083272)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/7/18515064993.jpg) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/379975/4243969)

Bozo looks like the cat who ate the mouse :)

(http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/news2011/Baez-finger-guns-0705_rdax_676x456.BMP)

Yep, I agree! Nice pic of Baez the morning of the verdict. since this pic was taken before the NG verdict was read, I think he knew.



This is the photo (as we all remember it) - I am not being pushing, really I'm not.  It is just makes so much dog-on sense now.
That expression is too self-satisfied. IMO

I have wondered since this video came out if this was camera monitored by the courthouse guards (hung on wall) , or was it for one of the TV stations?  Just wondering how this video was released.

it was a media camera


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: Jazzy on July 10, 2011, 02:09:56 PM
I have just found this site wonder if this would apply to this case anyone know?

Trial and Try again: When is a Retrial a Good Idea?
Text Size:


Susan M. Brazas for Lawyers.com

Many people assume that once a trial is over, the case is done once and for all. However, sometimes cases can be retried.

Reasons for re-trial include attorney misconduct or mistrial in the original trial, or an error which made the trial unfair. How a second trial turns out can't be predicted with certainty.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Basics/Trial-and-Try-again-When-is-a-Retrial-a-Good-Idea.html

Great link!  here's another excerpt

"A basic principle of fairness in our justice system is that no one should face double jeopardy, meaning no one should be subject to punishment twice for the same crime. If a person is found not guilty after a trial, the prosecutor doesn't usually get a second chance to have another trial.

A retrial is only granted if there were serious errors in the original trial requiring a reversal of the verdict, and the court finds that a new trial should take place. "
Dont we have enough on the misconduct of Bozo?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: StarMonkey on July 10, 2011, 02:11:01 PM
Hi Monks!
I still find myself sighing deeply and shaking my head.
I went back and watched Cindy in her first TV appearances when caylee was 'missing', with Greta and Geraldo. She is such a lying evil monster. She KNEW Caylee was dead and KC did it even then, before the cover ups, deception and defending her monster. She vehemently did NOT want to talk about KC so 'get up off your asses and go look for Caylee.' She is a disgusting excuse for a human being and I am tired of hearing people on TV feel empathy for her. She makes me as sick as her murdering daughter. Lee and George are just collateral damage..


The Prosecution went above and beyond. proved cindy lied on the stand. There is NO way they All 12 decided not guilty no way! had to been tampered.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: StarMonkey on July 10, 2011, 02:15:10 PM
I have just found this site wonder if this would apply to this case anyone know?

Trial and Try again: When is a Retrial a Good Idea?
Text Size:


Susan M. Brazas for Lawyers.com

Many people assume that once a trial is over, the case is done once and for all. However, sometimes cases can be retried.

Reasons for re-trial include attorney misconduct or mistrial in the original trial, or an error which made the trial unfair. How a second trial turns out can't be predicted with certainty.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Basics/Trial-and-Try-again-When-is-a-Retrial-a-Good-Idea.html

Great link!  here's another excerpt

"A basic principle of fairness in our justice system is that no one should face double jeopardy, meaning no one should be subject to punishment twice for the same crime. If a person is found not guilty after a trial, the prosecutor doesn't usually get a second chance to have another trial.

A retrial is only granted if there were serious errors in the original trial requiring a reversal of the verdict, and the court finds that a new trial should take place. "
Dont we have enough on the misconduct of Bozo?

yea and he never proved his lies

 ::snipping2::
A retrial is only granted if there were serious errors in the original trial requiring a reversal of the verdict, and the court finds that a new trial should take place.

http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Basics/Trial-and-Try-again-When-is-a-Retrial-a-Good-Idea.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: flamom on July 10, 2011, 02:18:57 PM
The picture of a cheerful Bobo sooting guns at the camera is one of confidence... not an anxiety stricken waiting for the verdict look..he had NOTHING to be confident about except his own stupidity..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10/11
Post by: dani on July 10, 2011, 02:19:10 PM
Good afternoon monkeys..

Still upset about verdict, BUT was glad to see Caylee's Law on change.org had reached over 1 million signatures today :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #2 7/09 - 7/10